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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: bcbunker1 on June 11, 2007, 01:30:00 pm
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anyone have any scoop on ryan adams coming to town? this site thinks he is coming our way. http://www.ticketmaster.com/ryanadams?spotlight_ren_od=1&tm_link=tm_home_4_f1 (http://www.ticketmaster.com/ryanadams?spotlight_ren_od=1&tm_link=tm_home_4_f1)
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I'm guessing he'll play DAR.
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Ryan Adams is a bonafide loser.
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Ryan Adams and The Cardinals
Tue 7/10/2007 8:00 PM
Doors: 7:00 PM
Paramount Theater
Charlottesville, VA
Presale: 6/11
Public Sale: 6/13
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Ryan Adams is a bonafide loser.
"Some people take great pleasure in mocking others of whom they are jealous of."
Ahem. (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=015574;p=1)
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Haha. I could name 100 more talented singer-songwriters who are less full of themselves that I feel absolutely no jealously toward. It's really a testament to bad taste that his mediocre crap achieves a modicum of popularity. ;)
Originally posted by Greer Zoller:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Ryan Adams is a bonafide loser.
"Some people take great pleasure in mocking others of whom they are jealous of."
Ahem. (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=015574;p=1) [/b]
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Hey, everyone's entitled to an opinion, no matter how wrongheaded it is.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Haha. I could name 100 more talented singer-songwriters who are less full of themselves that I feel absolutely no jealously toward. It's really a testament to bad taste that his mediocre crap achieves a modicum of popularity. ;)
Originally posted by Greer Zoller:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Ryan Adams is a bonafide loser.
"Some people take great pleasure in mocking others of whom they are jealous of."
Ahem. (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=015574;p=1) [/b]
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I think you are very wrong. Heartbreaker is in no way "mediocre crap." Don't let your feelings for the person cloud your appreciation of the music.
And before you say - "all his recent output sucks tho" - have you checked out Cold Roses? A bit long - but pared to one disc it's prob his best.
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ryan adams getting the backlash treatment now?
surely rhett was a fan at one point.
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Surely I was. I saw Whiskeytown in Raleigh in 1997. I liked Whiskeytown, but don't care for his (or Caitlin's) solo stuff.
I was even set up on a date around that time with his ex-girlfriend. She was a cool chick, but we really didn't have any chemistry.
Originally posted by le sonick:
ryan adams getting the backlash treatment now?
surely rhett was a fan at one point.
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I've listened to Heartbreaker within he last month. I liked it well enough when it came out, but it really doesn't stand the test of time. The fact that Emmylou, Gillian, and Dave are on it helps, but doesn't save it from ultimately such sounding like self-indulgent annoyance, imho.
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Haha. I could name 100 more talented singer-songwriters who are less full of themselves that I feel absolutely no jealously toward. It's really a testament to bad taste that his mediocre crap achieves a modicum of popularity. ;)
Originally posted by Greer Zoller:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Ryan Adams is a bonafide loser.
"Some people take great pleasure in mocking others of whom they are jealous of."
Ahem. (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=015574;p=1) [/b]
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I think you are very wrong. Heartbreaker is in no way "mediocre crap." Don't let your feelings for the person cloud your appreciation of the music.
And before you say - "all his recent output sucks tho" - have you checked out Cold Roses? A bit long - but pared to one disc it's prob his best. [/b]
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i am listening to a supposed advance of the new disc....and i like it. very twangy. i still like him more than most twangy artists
perhaps though, what rhett dislikes about him (self-indulgence) is what i like about him.
after all, i am a Radiohead fan!!!
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Perhaps you are right. The Whiskeytown stuff always seemed more about the songs and less about him, to me. Plus, he had Caitlin's great fiddling and harmonies, and Phil's (now with Jesse Sykes) great guitar playing...neither assets he's had on his solo work.
Originally posted by le sonick:
i am listening to a supposed advance of the new disc....and i like it. very twangy. i still like him more than most twangy artists
perhaps though, what rhett dislikes about him (self-indulgence) is what i like about him.
after all, i am a Radiohead fan!!!
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
The Whiskeytown stuff always seemed more about the songs and less about him, to me.
Why, he's a solo artist now!
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http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2003/01/13hornby.html (http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2003/01/13hornby.html)
"OH MY SWEET CAROLINA"
BY RYAN ADAMS
BY NICK HORNBY
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A long time ago, when I was still teaching English to foreign students in a London language school, I gave private conversation lessons to an unhappy man who called himself Edward, even though that wasn't his name. Edward was an African living in Rome, where he was a foreign correspondent for his home-town newspaper, and he was unhappy because he was going through a divorce. But he was lucid in his unhappiness: he talked with regret, of course, but also with insight, and enormous intelligence, and his melancholy took him off to all sorts of interesting conversational places â?? places I never normally got to visit in the normal run of things. I remember the concentration our talks required, and the stillness and intensity they engendered; I knew that he was in pain, but when our fifty minutes were over I felt invigorated and inspired. When it was time for him to return to Rome, he asked me to go and stay with him, and I accepted the invitation.
But when I got there, a few weeks later, he wasn't unhappy any more. He was revelling in his status as a single man, a status that, apparently, required very little self-reflection or intelligence: on the night I arrived, I found that he'd fixed us up with a couple of call-girls. I copped out, in my prissy English way, but he disappeared for forty-eight hours (leaving me with sole use of a beautiful apartment in the centre of Rome); when he came back, he told me he was engaged.
Some people are at their best when they're miserable. Ryan Adams's beautiful Heartbreaker album is, I suspect, the product of a great deal of pain, and "Oh My Sweet Carolina" is its perfect, still centre, its faint heartbeat, a song so quiet that you don't want to breathe throughout its duration. (It helps that Adams got Emmylou Harris, the best harmony vocalist in the history of pop music, to sing with him on it.) On Adams's next album, Gold, he seems to have cheered up, and though that's good news for him, it's bad news for me, just as it was when Edward stopped being miserable. His upbeat songs are fine, but they sound a lot like other people's upbeat songs (you can hear the cheeriest incarnations of the Stones, Dylan and Van Morrison all over Gold); his blues gave him distinction.
What rights do we have here? Are we entitled to ask other people to be unhappy for our benefit? After all, there are loads of us, and only one of them. And how can you be happy, really, if you are only ordinary in your happiness, but extraordinary in your grief? Is it really worth it? It sounds harsh, I know, but if you are currently romantically involved with someone with a real talent â?? especially a talent for songwriting â?? then do us all a favour and dump them. There might be a Heartbreaker â?? or a Blood On The Tracks or a Layla â?? in it for all of us. Thanks.
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I've always thought Steven King and Nick Hornby should lay off the music writing and stick to what they do best, mediocre fiction!
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I've always thought Steven King and Nick Hornby should lay off the music writing and stick to what they do best, mediocre fiction!
The fact that he wrote "31 Songs" to raise money for his autistic son's school displays even more callousness on your part than your usual "I'm 40 and angry that no one will listen to me" postings.
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Blah blah blah
Yay! for celebrities raising money! Yay! Aren't celebrities the most generous people in the world!
But seriously, good for him for raising money. That doesn't make his writing any less lame.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I've always thought Steven King and Nick Hornby should lay off the music writing and stick to what they do best, mediocre fiction!
The fact that he wrote "31 Songs" to raise money for his autistic son's school displays even more callousness on your part than your usual "I'm 40 and angry that no one will listen to me" postings. [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Blah blah blah
Yay! for celebrities raising money! Yay! Aren't celebrities the most generous people in the world!
But seriously, good for him for raising money. That doesn't make his writing any less lame.
It's good to have you back. I was worried that the new girl in your life was going to ruin you. I can now go back to ignoring your posts.
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You sound like Brian Walalalace!
Did he hack your account? :)
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Blah blah blah
Yay! for celebrities raising money! Yay! Aren't celebrities the most generous people in the world!
But seriously, good for him for raising money. That doesn't make his writing any less lame.
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So you're basically saying I'm supposed to admire someone's artistic output because they do good charity work?
Should I crank up some Don Henley every time I drive through a forest?
Should I make a point of seeing every lame movie Angelina Jolie is in because she tirelessly fights for the orphans of the world?
Should I cheer for the Miami Heat (and buy all his hip hop albums) because Shaq wants to eradicate childhood obesity?
Excuuuuse me for having an opinion!
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Blah blah blah
Yay! for celebrities raising money! Yay! Aren't celebrities the most generous people in the world!
But seriously, good for him for raising money. That doesn't make his writing any less lame.
It's good to have you back. I was worried that the new girl in your life was going to ruin you. I can now go back to ignoring your posts. [/b]
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** puts on heartbreaker **
thanks!
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There are a few tasty tracks on that one, but some of the songs make me run for the skip button. "Amy" for one.
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
** puts on heartbreaker **
thanks!
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Excuuuuse me for having an opinion!
No. It was more about the fact that somehow you forgot, overlooked, or perhaps never even knew that Nick Hornby started out as nonfiction writer, then a music critic for the New Yorker, London Times, and then became a critic on writing, before finally becoming the aforementioned "mediocre fiction" writer that you claim he is.
I see where 15 years of music critique in New Yorker prose pales in comparison to a lifetime bearucrat with 15,000 posts on the 9:30 Message Board, but your opinion is your opinion. It was your facts that I had a problem with.
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Come pick me up
Take me out
Fuck me up
Steal my records
Screw all my friends
They're all full of shit
With a smile on your face
And then do it again
I wish you would
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Sorry I'm not up to date on strip club etiquette, the beauty of a white belt, the glories of flirting with women other than my wife, or the Pulitzer and Nobel Prize worthy career of Nick Hornby. But goddaminit, I'm getting pretty good at changing a shit stained diaper! :D
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Excuuuuse me for having an opinion!
No. It was more about the fact that somehow you forgot, overlooked, or perhaps never even knew that Nick Hornby started out as nonfiction writer, then a music critic for the New Yorker, London Times, and then became a critic on writing, before finally becoming the aforementioned "mediocre fiction" writer that you claim he is.
I see where 15 years of music critique in New Yorker prose pales in comparison to a lifetime bearucrat with 15,000 posts on the 9:30 Message Board, but your opinion is your opinion. It was your facts that I had a problem with. [/b]
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You're old Rhett. You're not dead.