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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: nayrasher on January 21, 2006, 03:43:00 pm
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Wow, awesome, two early ticket sales without the box office selling in two weeks! Belle and Sebastian and Clap Your Hands. What the hell is going on? For people who don't like spending $8 extra on a ticket, this week has been a real fucking over. Thanks 9:30! I think it is really slimy of you to have tickets on sale only on the internet when the box office isn't open. Why is it called a "pre-sale" when all the damn tickets are on sale? Why aren't some reserved for people who are willing to get over to the club and buy tickets?
I already saw Clap Your Hands at the Black Cat, a place that sells tickets at the club when they are available and doesn't charge $4.50 for a Budweiser bottle.
I'm really fucking pissed at the 9:30 this week. Refashion your ticket sales so people can get a ticket and not have to pay tickets.com some fucking ridiculous fee.
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Originally posted by nayr497:
I already saw Clap Your Hands at the Black Cat, a place that sells tickets at the club when they are available and doesn't charge $4.50 for a Budweiser bottle.
You wouldn't have gotten tickets for this show if it were held at the Black Cat this time either, as their "box office" doesn't open until 8:00 p.m.
I kind of hear you (I didn't get Clap Your Hands tickets either, I was heading to the club this afternoon), but there's virtually no place that opens its box office same time as tickets go on sale. Only ones are Ticketmaster outlets at Hecht's, for instance, and then you're paying the extra fees anyway (and maybe not even getting tickets to shows that sell out in minutes unless you're the first person in line).
You're frustrated, but I don't agree that the club's policy is out of line.
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There was a pre-sale for CYHSY that was in Volume the clubs paper newsletter send by post.
The B&S show was announced in the 9:30 email blast and by the band, but was never listed as a presales. As quickly as the B&S went I doubt being at the boxoffice would have made much of a difference. CYHSY tickets were available two full days after being announced. I'm sure some will call it a "suprise" sellout and the real fans gots locked out.
Besides the club has been holding early sales for awhile a now and tickets those shows have been available at the boxoffice.
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I agree with the original poster.
I had hoped to get tickets to both the Pogues and Belle and Sebastian at the box office.
However, since online sales started at 10 am, and the box office doesn't open until Noon, both shows were sold out before they ever went on sale at the box office.
Is there a way for the 9:30 Club to stipulate to tickets.com to start online sales at the same time that they open the 9:30 box office? Or does 9:30 Club get a cut of the tickets.com ticket fees, thus making it more lucrative for the 9:30 Club to have the tickets sold through tickets.com than through their box office???
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ok so tickets go onsale at the boxoffice and tickets.com at the same and a hundred people show up at the boxoffice wanting to get tickets. as quickly as those shows went do you think everyone in line is going to get tickets? people will complain about that too...
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i bought tickets for clap your hands on the bands' website two saturdays ago... plus the 930 presale there probably just weren't that many tickets left when the general sale started
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And my 2 cents is that it's a hassle buying tickets at the Black Cat. You ask the person at the front desk, someone has to go get the manager, the manager has to show up, and then he goes and gets your tickets. The process usually takes 10-15 minutes, or longer, which is not convenient.
At 9:30, you pull up to the window and buy tix straight away. Or you buy them online. I've missed out on some shows, but it's always been because I waited too long.
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I kinda disagree.
It at least gives fans some chance of getting tickets for shows that will sell-out. Most people on here who wanted B&S tickets who were awake actually got tickets. For shows with countless pre-sales that was rarely the case.
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I don't really care that much, but the original poster has a point.
As for the Black Cat, the inconvenience never bothered me... go in, sit at the bar, have a Red Room Ale, and your ticket will be delivered to you before you're even halfway through it.
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Originally posted by Doctor Mood:
I don't really care that much, but the original poster has a point.
As for the Black Cat, the inconvenience never bothered me... go in, sit at the bar, have a Red Room Ale, and your ticket will be delivered to you before you're even halfway through it.
http://www.alex.to/alt.dc.music (http://www.alex.to/alt.dc.music)
by the way, i noticed that the price of a red room went up recently...
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You must have a very fast watch, or be an impatient person.??
I've bought tickets at the Black Cat box office maybe 8 or 10 times, and yes they are slow. But I've never had to wait more than maybe five or six minutes.
Originally posted by Relaxer:
And my 2 cents is that it's a hassle buying tickets at the Black Cat. You ask the person at the front desk, someone has to go get the manager, the manager has to show up, and then he goes and gets your tickets. The process usually takes 10-15 minutes, or longer, which is not convenient.
At 9:30, you pull up to the window and buy tix straight away. Or you buy them online. I've missed out on some shows, but it's always been because I waited too long.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
And my 2 cents is that it's a hassle buying tickets at the Black Cat. You ask the person at the front desk, someone has to go get the manager, the manager has to show up, and then he goes and gets your tickets. The process usually takes 10-15 minutes, or longer, which is not convenient.
its a huge hassle buying tix at the Black Cat....and don't get me started on the soviet-style, show your ticket and id to one person at the door....shuffle 4 steps and hand your ticket to someone at the desk and receive another ticket in return....shuffle 4 steps to your right and hand that ticket to someone else to get upstairs......oh so efficient when dealing with a sold out crowd
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Originally posted by brennser:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
And my 2 cents is that it's a hassle buying tickets at the Black Cat. You ask the person at the front desk, someone has to go get the manager, the manager has to show up, and then he goes and gets your tickets. The process usually takes 10-15 minutes, or longer, which is not convenient.
its a huge hassle buying tix at the Black Cat....and don't get me started on the soviet-style, show your ticket and id to one person at the door....shuffle 4 steps and hand your ticket to someone at the desk and receive another ticket in return....shuffle 4 steps to your right and hand that ticket to someone else to get upstairs......oh so efficient when dealing with a sold out crowd [/b]
I blame Dave Grohl...it's his club! (Gets ready for angry assault from bags)
I found it quite amusing buying tics at the Black Cat....it's like the old "Frankie said to ask for Vinnie" "oh, okay....I'll go get vinnie" then you wait till they find Vinnie.
That old ticket shuffle is also very interesting. I thought it was a David Blane trick at first...like when you get to the last ticket swap/check they give you back your underwear that you were wearing at the first ticket exchange...Then Vinnie turns his back on you and does that levitation thing.
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
by the way, i noticed that the price of a red room went up recently...
Really? I bet their rent has skyrocketed since they opened there, given what has happened to that neighborhood. I wonder how long they'll be able to stay there....
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Originally posted by brennser:
soviet-style
heh... let a bunch of indie kids manage anything, and Soviet-style is exactly what you'll get. :D
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Okay how do I handle this without coming accross as being less than understanding?
First, I feel your frustration in not being able to get tickets to the shows you wanted to. I myself was locked out of the Foo Fighters sale a couple months ago. The fact remains though that as fast as some shows sell out there would be very little chance that more than the first person in line would get tickets if we opened our box office at the same time as tickets went on sale. There are just too many people sitting in front of their computers ready to hit enter at 10 AM. A person sitting in the box office or even taking phone orders just wouldn't be able to compete with the speed at which these seats get locked.
We only have a limited number of tickets for sale for each show and the demand can often times be much higher than what we have available. This is why you see people offering their tickets for hundreds of dollars on e-bay.
Here are some tips other people have used:
1. Subscribe to the 9:30 e-mail blast. You'll get the 411 on shows and when they go on sale often times before they are advertised. To join simply send an e-mail to list_serve@930.com
2. Use a computer with a high speed connection.
3. Have your CC info copied and ready to paste so you can get processed faster.
4. Have a friend or coworker trying to get tickets at the same time to increase your chances.
The fact is that even if you do these things there will still be times when others are faster and you'll get shut out, but that's the nature of rock shows. Again I'm sorry and better luck next time.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
You must have a very fast watch, or be an impatient person.??
I don't wear a watch. And waiting patiently is not a problem for me, but often I buy tickets when I'm there to see music, which has already begun. I could arrive at the Black Cat earlier, but I enjoy putting my kid to bed before I go out.
And if you've only had to wait 5 or 6 minutes, how come you think they're slow? You must have a very slow watch or be an impatient person. Besides, in order to make a snarky point, I think you're lying about buying tickets at the Black Cat and never waiting more than 5-6 minutes.
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Well I can see it being a pain in the ass if you're waiting to see a band. Why not come down and buy them between bands?
And I haven't really timed it, though I do wear a watch. It just seems longer, because you have to stand around a bunch of hipster dorks. The kind who think that the girls who hang out at the Red Room are hotter than Angelina Jolie.
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
You must have a very fast watch, or be an impatient person.??
I don't wear a watch. And waiting patiently is not a problem for me, but often I buy tickets when I'm there to see music, which has already begun. I could arrive at the Black Cat earlier, but I enjoy putting my kid to bed before I go out.
And if you've only had to wait 5 or 6 minutes, how come you think they're slow? You must have a very slow watch or be an impatient person. Besides, in order to make a snarky point, I think you're lying about buying tickets at the Black Cat and never waiting more than 5-6 minutes. [/b]
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did a little research...
we used to bring people in early to open the box office for onsales and apparently 2 things happened:
1. very few, if any, people showed up to buy
2. the people that did, if it was a hot show, got beat out by the people online anyway
so, we could pull tix off early to sell to people in line, but now we're talking about giving them an advantage, and paying people to come in early and work
the question is...for what?
so they can save the ticket charges? we should really go thru all of this trouble & expense so that a few people can pride themselves on getting out of paying ticket fees?
I think not
if tickets go on sale online first, and they ultimately cost $XX including ticket fees, then that's the deal. if they don't sell out immediately, then they will be available at the box office when we open at noon, and thereafter.
We have changed a lot of policies and procedures to accomodate our regular patrons, but this one is too much for too little people.
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If it's that big of a deal to spend an extra $5 perhaps you should stay home and save even more money.
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
did a little research...
I much prefer this system to the barrage of pre-pre-pre-sales. At least this way, if you know about the show and get online as the tickets are released you have a good chance of getting tickets.
With a lot of the pre-sales it felt like there were so few tickets that the chance of getting a ticket was slim. Then there would be another pre-sale....... It was just a big waste of time.
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Try $8 when you throw in the fact that you're being charged a fee to pick them up will call.
Originally posted by TheREALHunter:
If it's that big of a deal to spend an extra $5 perhaps you should stay home and save even more money.
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Fair enough.
Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
did a little research...
we used to bring people in early to open the box office for onsales and apparently 2 things happened:
1. very few, if any, people showed up to buy
2. the people that did, if it was a hot show, got beat out by the people online anyway
so, we could pull tix off early to sell to people in line, but now we're talking about giving them an advantage, and paying people to come in early and work
the question is...for what?
so they can save the ticket charges? we should really go thru all of this trouble & expense so that a few people can pride themselves on getting out of paying ticket fees?
I think not
if tickets go on sale online first, and they ultimately cost $XX including ticket fees, then that's the deal. if they don't sell out immediately, then they will be available at the box office when we open at noon, and thereafter.
We have changed a lot of policies and procedures to accomodate our regular patrons, but this one is too much for too little people.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
throw in the fact that you're being charged a fee to pick them up will call.
That's really my only complaint about the current setup.
I'm starting to think of service charges as an insurance policy. I can pay the extra fees and be guaranteed a ticket right now, or I can waive the fees and hope there are tickets available later. Sometimes it's worth the risk. Sometimes it isn't. It depends on how much I want to see the band and how likely I think it's going to sellout.
If I'm not willing to pay the extra $8 to be guaranteed a ticket, I probably didn't want to go that bad in the first place. I won't be too upset if it sells out.
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Pretty soon, they'll think up a way to charge you extra on your Metro ride. An insurance policy, if you will. And maybe restaurants can charge "insurance" on their meals, ensuring that you don't get sick!
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
throw in the fact that you're being charged a fee to pick them up will call.
That's really my only complaint about the current setup.
I'm starting to think of service charges as an insurance policy. I can pay the extra fees and be guaranteed a ticket right now, or I can waive the fees and hope there are tickets available later. Sometimes it's worth the risk. Sometimes it isn't. It depends on how much I want to see the band and how likely I think it's going to sellout.
If I'm not willing to pay the extra $8 to be guaranteed a ticket, I probably didn't want to go that bad in the first place. I won't be too upset if it sells out. [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Pretty soon, they'll think up a way to charge you extra on your Metro ride. An insurance policy, if you will. And maybe restaurants can charge "insurance" on their meals, ensuring that you don't get sick!
I think all of us regulars would pay an $8 insurance policy for the board to assure you shut the hell up for once and stop with your tired drivel.
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thats a good way of looking at it... exactly how i'm approaching the colin meloy show at the birchmere if all the fees it's almost $25 per ticket would rather just wait and try to buy at the boxoffice or go see robert pollard instead. i have always found the fees more resonable at the black cat.
and while it's not probably recommed for use during hotly contest tickets sales, there is a shopping cart feature for 9:30 shows where you can get multiple shows for the same shipping fee.
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If you can raise $1000 and give it to me, I will! That's only 125 $8 contributions.
Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Pretty soon, they'll think up a way to charge you extra on your Metro ride. An insurance policy, if you will. And maybe restaurants can charge "insurance" on their meals, ensuring that you don't get sick!
I think all of us regulars would pay an $8 insurance policy for the board to assure you shut the hell up for once and stop with your tired drivel. [/b]
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Speaking of which, does anyone want to pick me up a copy of the tour EP? I'll be out of town and will miss him again.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
exactly how i'm approaching the colin meloy show at the birchmere
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
If you can raise $1000 and give it to me, I will! That's only 125 $8 contributions.
Someone start the Rhett Miller pledge drive. I'm in for $50.
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This is how I treat service charges too. It's not hassle for me to get to the club so if I'm paying a service charge it's because I think the show will sellout before I can get there. Or, in cases where I KNOW it will sell out, I just consider it a part of the ticket price (i.e. a premium on big shows).
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
I'm starting to think of service charges as an insurance policy. I can pay the extra fees and be guaranteed a ticket right now, or I can waive the fees and hope there are tickets available later. Sometimes it's worth the risk. Sometimes it isn't. It depends on how much I want to see the band and how likely I think it's going to sellout.
If I'm not willing to pay the extra $8 to be guaranteed a ticket, I probably didn't want to go that bad in the first place. I won't be too upset if it sells out.
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Originally posted by Tom Servo:
This is how I treat service charges too. It's not hassle for me to get to the club so if I'm paying a service charge it's because I think the show will sellout before I can get there. Or, in cases where I KNOW it will sell out, I just consider it a part of the ticket price (i.e. a premium on big shows).
Ditto. I waited on Clap Your Hands to go by the box office that day, and didn't get tickets, but I knew it was a gamble -- I had decided it wasn't worth the extra $25-30 on four tickets. It's too bad, but no biggie.
I did NOT wait on New Pornos/B&S, even though with TWO shows I didn't think it would sell out as fast as it did. Still, I would have been very bummed to miss it, so we went online at 10:00. Ditto for the Pogues, and it's worth every penny having tickets for those shows.
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Originally posted by nkotBaba:
Speaking of which, does anyone want to pick me up a copy of the tour EP? I'll be out of town and will miss him again.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
exactly how i'm approaching the colin meloy show at the birchmere
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Me too?
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this string is what is known in the biz as a "rehash."
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Originally posted by nkotBaba:
Speaking of which, does anyone want to pick me up a copy of the tour EP? I'll be out of town and will miss him again.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
exactly how i'm approaching the colin meloy show at the birchmere
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Is it gonna be a new one?
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Yes, an ep of old English folk tunes.
Next up: Colin does bluegrass.
Originally posted by amnesiac:
Originally posted by nkotBaba:
Speaking of which, does anyone want to pick me up a copy of the tour EP? I'll be out of town and will miss him again.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
exactly how i'm approaching the colin meloy show at the birchmere
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Is it gonna be a new one? [/b]
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Originally posted by amnesiac:
Is it gonna be a new one?
i hope so, or else the $90 ebay value of the last one will surely go down ... i'll pick one up at the show and rip the MP3s for whoever wants it ...
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Originally posted by nkotBaba:
Speaking of which, does anyone want to pick me up a copy of the tour EP? I'll be out of town and will miss him again.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
exactly how i'm approaching the colin meloy show at the birchmere
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An mp3 of one of Meloy's new tour-only EP tracks can be found here (http://therichgirlsareweeping.blogspot.com/2006/01/it-can-never-be-said-that-head.html#links).
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It's an ep of English folk standards.
Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by amnesiac:
Is it gonna be a new one?
i hope so, or else the $90 ebay value of the last one will surely go down ... i'll pick one up at the show and rip the MP3s for whoever wants it ... [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
It's an ep of English folk standards.
ahh, i thought you were joking ... i wonder what a 2CD bundle of this EP and the last one will go for on ebay?
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
It's an ep of English folk standards.
ahh, i thought you were joking ... i wonder what a 2CD bundle of this EP and the last one will go for on ebay? [/b]
New one is already on eBay: Colin Meloy Sings Shirley Collins (http://search.ebay.com/colin-meloy_W0QQfromZR41)
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by amnesiac:
Is it gonna be a new one?
i hope so, or else the $90 ebay value of the last one will surely go down ... i'll pick one up at the show and rip the MP3s for whoever wants it ... [/b]
Didn't you say you didn't want yours?
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Originally posted by El Sugartastic:
Didn't you say you didn't want yours?
i said i have no real use for a CD, as i listen to all my music as little teeny computer files, so if i could sell either of those CDs for $90, i'll do it ... i just haven't gotten off my ass and put it up on ebay yet
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:p
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If anyone was willing to purchase me the new EP and ship it (since I'll miss the show, grr), I'd paypal you the $$ in advance.
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all i'm talking about is what the colin meloy sings morrissey EP was going for on ebay ($75-$100), i have no idea if it will be the same for this one (i'm guessing not, morrissey's insane fans probably increased the bidding on the last one) ... it's nice to have the CD and all, but if someone wants to pay me $90 for it, more power to them
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
If anyone was willing to purchase me the new EP and ship it (since I'll miss the show, grr), I'd paypal you the $$ in advance.
If anybody was willing to create a bit torrent file and send me the link I'd be willing to download it for free.
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
if someone wants to pay me $90 for it, more power to them
I understood the first time...
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I have to say that it's annoying that tickets for Dinosaur Jr. and Stereolab are on sale, yet no announcement of the shows on the 9:30 home page.
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well Stereolab has been "announced" since 12/21, it pays to scroll sometimes ;)
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OK, but for someone not belonging to the bulletin board, how would they know that?
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by reading it in the weekly 9:30 email... the other must be something super "secret"
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Yeah, Stereolab has been in the e-mail for months it seems. Kind of surprising about Dino Jr., though.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
by reading it in the weekly 9:30 email... the other must be something super "secret"
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I haven't been getting my 9:30 e-mails...how do I sign up for that again?
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email List_Serve@930.com and tell them the forum set you maybe we can win tickets :p