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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: tiia on August 11, 2003, 02:31:00 pm
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ok---opinions, anyone seen them live? I've heard nothing but good stuff.
www.thedonnas.com (http://www.thedonnas.com)
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Can't stand them at all. To me, they are just bad noisy sloppy Girl Pop.
There are a few people here though who do like them so it would depend on your taste in music.
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I dated a Donna years ago. Smart, reasonably pretty, but totally lacking in sense of humor. Don't know if all Donna's are like that. Celeste's are much more appealing.
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I know a Donna who has a great sense of humor but she too hates the band The Donnas.
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hehehehe, I just met this guy who loves the donnas and loves Ted Leo, and Im trying to find the comparison, cause though not loathing of the donnas, not particularly impressed either.
nb. ted leo will be at the bc in september for a solo show, but you all probably know that already (its on the list)
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Can't stand them at all. To me, they are just bad noisy sloppy Girl Pop.
Originally posted by Jaguär:
For the life of me, I've never, ever seen the appeal of any of that kind of crap. I can't stand those kinds of shows or performances. It's even lower than the lowest common denominator.
Originally posted by Jaguär:
I absolutely hate that band! Can't stand Porno For Pyros either. It's mostly Perry Ferrel's voice that drives me fucking insane! It's that spoilt rotten brat little boy whiney that I can't take.
Originally posted by Jaguär:
I can't stand Apples In Stereo. Really whiney fake college Art Rock. Noisy minimalist crap Rock.
Originally posted by Jaguär:
Wilco sounds like boring old people's music. They could use some of those emergency heart paddles.
Somebody has been kind of pissy lately.....
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Yeah, it does sound like it but ironically, I'm in a good mood. It's just that people are posting today about some bands and things that I can't stand. I'm not even PMSing. :D
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Damn, GGW! That took some research. I never realized before that you were that obsessed with me. :eek:
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Somebody has been kind of pissy lately.....
maybe she just has good taste?
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Yeah, it does sound like it but ironically, I'm in a good mood. It's just that people are posting today about some bands and things that I can't stand. I'm not even PMSing. :D
hmmmmm, someone beginning to sound a lot like cynical old mank! :eek:
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Originally posted by tiia:
hehehehe, I just met this guy who loves the donnas and loves Ted Leo, and Im trying to find the comparison, cause though not loathing of the donnas, not particularly impressed either.
Ted Leo certainly is more interesting than the Donnas although both acts tend to wear their inluences a little too boldly.
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Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Somebody has been kind of pissy lately.....
maybe she just has good taste? [/b]
:D :D :D
It takes one connoisseur to know one. ;)
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
:D It takes one connoisseur to know one. ;) [/QB][/QUOTE]
anyone who slags off wilco, the people that made billy bragg suck, is alright by me.
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Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by Jaguär:
:D It takes one connoisseur to know one. ;) [/b]
anyone who slags off wilco, the people that made billy bragg suck, is alright by me. [/QB][/QUOTE]
And anyone who has the nerve to wear bondage pants, without looking like it's a costume, is alright by me. ;)
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Originally posted by markie:
Ted Leo certainly is more interesting than the Donnas although both acts tend to wear their inluences a little too boldly.
Ted Leo, though only ever seen him a couple of times, I think is much, much better than the donnas, though as far as girl bands go I think they're good. Certainly better than classics like the Go-Gos (which, I consider to be a guilty pleasure group -- Culture Club is also a guilty pleasure group)still I don't think I'd necessarly put myself out to seem the donnas live.
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you seem to forget that Billy Bragg had a bigger say in that record than wilco did, if you want to blame somebody, blame Woody Guthrie's daughter
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
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Damn, GGW! That took some research. I never realized before that you were that obsessed with me. :eek:
Actually, it's quite simple with the new "view users posts" function.
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Originally posted by tiia:
Ted Leo, though only ever seen him a couple of times, I think is much, much better than the donnas,
Very true.
Ted Leo is very good live. I saw the Donnas before their big major label push and was not at all impressed.
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Originally posted by tiia:
Ted Leo, though only ever seen him a couple of times,
I am a late Ted Leo adaopter..... the upcoming show at blackcat will be my first. Were the other shows good?
I have no real desire to see the donnas. Well a little morbid curiosity to see why they never show their faces in videos. I suspect the worst.
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I was at a Donnas show once, but as soon as Superdrag was done, I took off.
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
you seem to forget that Billy Bragg had a bigger say in that record than wilco did, if you want to blame somebody, blame Woody Guthrie's daughter
whatever the reason. Before he met Wilco he made "dont try this at home" a great, great album. Afterward he made the limp bloke on bloke. I think wilco sucked his life force.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by tiia:
[qb] I saw the Donnas before their big major label push and was not at all impressed. [/b]
I thought you went on about liking the Donnas?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Jaguär:
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Damn, GGW! That took some research. I never realized before that you were that obsessed with me. ;)
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Originally posted by markie:
whatever the reason. Before he met Wilco he made "dont try this at home" a great, great album. Afterward he made the limp bloke on bloke. I think wilco sucked his life force.
Interesting, you told me you never heard Bloke on Bloke.
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Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by tiia:
I saw the Donnas before their big major label push and was not at all impressed.
I thought you went on about liking the Donnas? [/b]
Not I.
I don't have as visceral a reaction as Jaguar, but I don't think that the Donnas are anything to write home about.
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Originally posted by markie:
I think wilco sucked his life force.
A little jealous perhaps?
You wanted to suck his "life force" didn't you?
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I have heard the songs that are rated as its best and I didnt think they were that good.........
Despite taking five years off to marry and have a son, which should've given him plenty of time to write, Bragg gives listeners half an album of "B" material. Four of the lesser songs regress to Bragg's mid-'80s beginnings, when he bellowed like a foghorn in a thick cockney accent over a scratchy guitar. "From Red to Blue," "Brickbat," "Northern Industrial Town," and especially his setting of Rudyard Kipling's fiery "A Pict Song" to music revisit Spy Vs. Spy, Brewing Up, and Talking to the Taxman About Poetry, ignoring the stylistic advances he's shown since (except for clearer singing). However, even those rough days bore close listening thanks to Bragg's lyrical wit, conviction, and knack for punky hooks. Likewise, William Bloke's other tracks fall short of his best but remain hugely entertaining and thought-provoking. "Goalhanger" is a hilarious, clever roasting of conniving, manipulating jerks who use others set to a ska beat and an organ out of Henry Mancini's "Baby Elephant Walk." "Sugardaddy" is a similar lighthearted soul homage that barely obfuscates Bragg's long-standing, wrathful contempt for capitalism's caste system and greed. "The Space Race Is Over" and "The 14th of February" recall the more tender moments of Don't Try This, as does the bemused yet hopeful "King James Version." Better, "Everybody Loves You Babe" is a piano and vocal delight, turning a torch love song on its ear, while the single "Upfield" echoes Don't Try This' highs: the barking brass, insistent Motown choruses, and Bragg's soul-searching about socialism when so many of his old compadres have sold out like Jerry Rubins all add up to a gripping single from an LP that reminds listeners that the well-missed Bragg is super valuable, even when firing flowers instead of bullets. -- Jack Rabid, The Big Takeover
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I don't have as visceral a reaction as Jaguar, but I don't think that the Donnas are anything to write home about.
Really. I would have sworn it was you. Some board regular was hyping them and I am pretty sure it wasnt Rhett, Mankie or Jag.
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Originally posted by markie:
whatever the reason. Before he met Wilco he made "dont try this at home" a great, great album. Afterward he made the limp bloke on bloke. I think wilco sucked his life force.
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Northern Industrial Town is a great song..that's his post-suckie work, maybe that one slipped by him or something.
Workers Playtime is by far his best work.
I just can't understand why such an amazing song-writer like Bragg would have to sing some other chumps songs, good, bad or otherwise....and then surround himself with a pile of crap like Wilco.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by markie:
I think wilco sucked his life force.
A little jealous perhaps?
You wanted to suck his "life force" didn't you? [/b]
If your singing along to his show hadnt already made me nauseous that thought would have.
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Originally posted by markie:
Really. I would have sworn it was you. Some board regular was hyping them and I am pretty sure it wasnt Rhett, Mankie or Jag.
Perhaps it was Fico:
"Oi! The Donnas are some ace birds. Feckin bloody shite, mate! Maybe they can open for my band"
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
"Oi! The Donnas are some ace birds. Feckin bloody shite, mate! Maybe they can open for my band" [/b]
We have bumped into him a couple of times in the last month and my wife swears that he was with a different hot girl on the two occasions..... That rock and roll swagger and British accent never worked that well for me.
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Quite honestly, I seem to remember a lot of horny guys saying that they liked The Donnas but really can't remember which ones. I'm sure the thread has since long been deleted.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by markie:
I think wilco sucked his life force.
A little jealous perhaps?
You wanted to suck his "life force" didn't you? [/b]
Has anyone else noted that GGW is always suggesting that others are gay?? Over-compensating perhaps? "BANG!" Whoa, what was that? Oh, just the closet door closing in GGW's bedroom...
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Originally posted by markie:
whatever the reason. Before he met Wilco he made "dont try this at home" a great, great album. Afterward he made the limp bloke on bloke.
Wasn't Bloke on Bloke just outtakes from William Bloke?
English half English is kind of lame as well.
But lets face it -- after the fall of his beloved USSR, the spark just wasn't there anymore.
And he did the Guthrie stuff because Guthrie was a socialist singer-songwriter also.
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The real problem with the Donnas is that so much of their stuff sounds the same. 3 or 4 chords, 2 1/2 minutes, and its action words "Take it off" "Get outta here" "Give it to me". Saw them at the BC last year. Not all that impressed, but they are still chick rockers who don't look like all that bad, worth the novelty factor at least...and the drummers actually kinda cute and perky. But if you've heard one song, you've heard them all.
I can only play C, D, and G on the guitar, but i'm sure i could write a Donnas-esque that would tell you what to do. So "Don't Bother" nd "Listen to Something Else".
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by markie:
I think wilco sucked his life force.
A little jealous perhaps?
You wanted to suck his "life force" didn't you? [/b]
Has anyone else noted that GGW is always suggesting that others are gay?? Over-compensating perhaps? "BANG!" Whoa, what was that? Oh, just the closet door closing in GGW's bedroom... [/b]
You've found me out (pun intended).
Just testing my gaydar.
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Originally posted by markie:
.... That rock and roll swagger and British accent never worked that well for me.
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Really? I'm surprised the Ozzie accent doesn't work with the mommas. :roll:
"Oroit yow, wot's uckoiring"
You know it has to be manc, scouse, Irish or Scottish to get the birds. Geordie might be okay if anyone could understand a damn word they were saying.
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Originally posted by markie:
I am a late Ted Leo adaopter..... the upcoming show at blackcat will be my first. Were the other shows good?
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Ted Leo is good live. He's been around forever but I never manage to seem him live cause Im always out of town when he's in (its one of those hit and miss love affairs I guess).
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I've only seen Ted Leo a handful of times, and he has been right on every show. However, I'm sorry you're going to have to miss his latest solo show.
Black Cat - Ted Leo (solo) Sept 10th
9:30 Club - Andrew WK Sept. 10th
Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by tiia:
Ted Leo, though only ever seen him a couple of times,
I am a late Ted Leo adaopter..... the upcoming show at blackcat will be my first. Were the other shows good?
I have no real desire to see the donnas. Well a little morbid curiosity to see why they never show their faces in videos. I suspect the worst. [/b]
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Originally posted by nkotb:
[QB] I've only seen Ted Leo a handful of times, and he has been right on every show. However, I'm sorry you're going to have to miss his latest solo show.
Black Cat - Ted Leo (solo) Sept 10th
9:30 Club - Andrew WK Sept. 10th
Why not go see Ted Leo and catch Andrew WK the following week when he comes back to town?
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Originally posted by nkotb:
However, I'm sorry you're going to have to miss his latest solo show.
Black Cat - Ted Leo (solo) Sept 10th
9:30 Club - Andrew WK Sept. 10th
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spot on nkotb.
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Because you could see AWK on the 10th and then catch him again the following week, ensuring two straight weeks of hard partying til you puke.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by nkotb:
[QB] I've only seen Ted Leo a handful of times, and he has been right on every show. However, I'm sorry you're going to have to miss his latest solo show.
Black Cat - Ted Leo (solo) Sept 10th
9:30 Club - Andrew WK Sept. 10th
Why not go see Ted Leo and catch Andrew WK the following week when he comes back to town? [/b]
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Originally posted by nkotb:
[QB] Because you could see AWK on the 10th and then catch him again the following week, ensuring two straight weeks of hard partying til you puke.
But if you went to the Ted Leo show but listened to Culture Club on the way home, you'd evidently puke according to Sir HC...then see Andrew the following week;
You saw Ted Leo, you puked twice and you saw Andrew WK.....win/win...no?
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Originally posted by nkotb:
[QB] I've only seen Ted Leo a handful of times, and he has been right on every show. However, I'm sorry you're going to have to miss his latest solo show.
Naw, I'm trying to be around for that show. Should be leavin' on the 9th for NYC but worked out my schedule to be around to see Ted Leo -- also managed to see his last show in NJ some time back which wasn't a solo performance. I used to live in Philly and should have been able to seem him more times than I have or should admit. He's from NJ if I recall correctly.
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Ah, a common misconception. But puking without the party just sucks. However, you are learning. Who said you couldn't teach an old dog new tricks?
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by nkotb:
[QB] Because you could see AWK on the 10th and then catch him again the following week, ensuring two straight weeks of hard partying til you puke.
But if you went to the Ted Leo show but listened to Culture Club on the way home, you'd evidently puke according to Sir HC...then see Andrew the following week;
You saw Ted Leo, you puked twice and you saw Andrew WK.....win/win...no? [/b]
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Originally posted by nkotb:
[QB] Ah, a common misconception. But puking without the party just sucks. However, you are learning. Who said you couldn't teach an old dog new tricks?
Am I one step closer to being in with the board in-crowd?
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I wonder if we could get lucky and see two shows on one night. Although I dont hink I could stand after an Andrew WK show so that wouldnt work either.
Ted Leo makes better music, but I know I would have more fun at an Andrew WK show. I bet fun will win out. Thanks NKOTB
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You know, I used to think you were a lost cause, but now, I almost wouldn't be ashamed to have a drink with you.
Not that it matters much now. My move outside of DC has knocked me out of the board in-crowd...
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by nkotb:
[QB] Ah, a common misconception. But puking without the party just sucks. However, you are learning. Who said you couldn't teach an old dog new tricks?
Am I one step closer to being in with the board in-crowd? [/b]
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Originally posted by nkotb:
[QB] You know, I used to think you were a lost cause, but now, I almost wouldn't be ashamed to have a drink with you.
errrr, thanks, I think!
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Originally posted by nkotb:
Not that it matters much now. My move outside of DC has knocked me out of the board in-crowd...
There are always sleepovers. I make a mean tuna sandwich.
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Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by nkotb:
Not that it matters much now. My move outside of DC has knocked me out of the board in-crowd...
I make a mean tuna sandwich. [/b]
Hmmmmm, I never realized that tunas were agressive fish.
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Wait, was that your idea, or the wife's?
Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by nkotb:
Not that it matters much now. My move outside of DC has knocked me out of the board in-crowd...
There are always sleepovers. I make a mean tuna sandwich. [/b]
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Originally posted by nkotb:
Wait, was that your idea, or the wife's?
The tuna was all my idea. I dont think you would be any good to her after the tuna sandwich.
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Originally posted by markie:
Originally posted by nkotb:
Wait, was that your idea, or the wife's?
The tuna was all my idea. I dont think you would be any good to her after the tuna sandwich. [/b]
Do you put little bits of cucumber in the tuna?
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Oh Mankie, you have no idea of happiness do you?
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Originally posted by markie:
Oh Mankie, you have no idea of happiness do you?
cucumber in the tuna....what could possibly be happier?
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don't eat the tuna sandwitch nkotb.............
you wont sit down for days.............and thats pretty unusual.............