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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Sir HC on March 21, 2007, 05:18:00 pm
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Was pretty good, interesting view of a band trying to get back on top.
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i'm about to read it online (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/14/AR2007031400187.html)... (more links related to story on the post's music page (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artsandliving/music/index.html))
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This quote says pretty much all you need to know:
"Honestly, I wouldn't be standing here right now if it wasn't for them. I live in West Virginia and have purple hair. People stare at me and give me a hard time. Joel and Benj know what it's like to be a total outcast and a misfit. They made me proud to be different."
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Sales have slumped at Hot Topic recently. And the food court wiggers have moved on to Borders.
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Ding ding ding.
As a reformed "outcast", I'm always amused when people make statements that imply that they were BORN with purple hair.
Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
This quote says pretty much all you need to know:
"Honestly, I wouldn't be standing here right now if it wasn't for them. I live in West Virginia and have purple hair. People stare at me and give me a hard time. Joel and Benj know what it's like to be a total outcast and a misfit. They made me proud to be different."
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The actual interviews with the dudes in the band were pretty decent. They don't come off as giant tools, just semi-tools.
Their fans are still ridiculous though.
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I think that these rock'n'roll cliches are really something...twin brothers from dysfunctional background have tough upbringing, have dreams of stardom, stumble into massive success, then in the face of adversity struggle with hanging onto success after excess and debauchery. Give me a break. On the one hand, good for them for selling millions of records, hope that they enjoyed it. On the other hand, screw them for their mediocrity and poseur punk image bullshit. The minute you start dating the Hillary Duffs of the world, you know that it's not about music, it's about being part of the entertainment industry. Glad that their fans enjoy consuming the musical equivalent of a Super-sized Big Mac meal. Bands like Good Charlotte just make the masses even more bloated and gassy.
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God those guys (and their fans) are TOOLS
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Yes. Interesting article.
I'm not gonna lie, I bought their first album when I was 10 years old and thought they were really cool and got all excited every time I heard them on HFS...it was a quality pop-punk record. You know, that stuff is fun to dance to when you are young and don't know any better. But their second album didn't do anything for me; it was pretty over-produced and slick sounding...too marketable. Though maybe that was the point in my life when I realized that most pop-punk wasn't quality at all...
I definitely have respect for them and what they've been through but it always makes me wonder a little. You know, that their problems were so readily...marketable in their albums and lyrics. And I don't know how I would feel about someone capitalizing so much on something like that. Seems a little funny to me.
It's great to write music about your life and turn a profit on that music but some of the other stuff...well...it just makes me wonder sometimes.
They are definitely going for a different image. du Lac failed to mention the fact that the music "video" that went along one of their new songs features Cory Kennedy dancing and eating Indian food and it's kind of absolutely ridiculous...
But their brother Josh is a really great creative thinker and does well with shoots. I think the fashion industry will have some nice things to come from that fella.
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did these clowns ever think that the reason no one like them in high school was because they were in some crappy annoying band?
and besides, i worked on their street team in 1996 for a short bit, soon after i came to the US, and those guys were pretty pomous already and had a really nice van that they toted their gear around in. the drummer had this very expensive drum set too i remember.
they paid us pretty well to shell shows with flyers though. better than any other band (which was never anything).
tough upbringing my ass.
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these guys seem dangerous. :(
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OU0_fDRLjKs (http://youtube.com/watch?v=OU0_fDRLjKs)
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Yawn...
Seriously, why is everyone so bitter about this band? Who gives a fuck? It's music that's obviously not made for our collective target market (ok, maybe betty's, especially when they first broke), which makes all of the belly-aching seem super pathetic. They always say that critics are just frustrated musicians; it seems the same is true for indie rock fans.
Besides, you all are kidding yourselves if you wouldn't be banging starlets (or stars as the case may be) if a little fame & fortune crossed your paths...
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or, watch the alternate version released by the band and Nylon directed by Marvin Scott Jarett
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vyvFZ_Joc3s&mode=related&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=vyvFZ_Joc3s&mode=related&search=)
featuring LA scene girl who makes money by leeching off of others who are well connected and appearing on the cobrasnake.
jack shit.
DON'T sit there talking about how adverse you are all the while you are sticking spoiled rich princesses in your music videos and dating Nicole Richie.
i rest my case.
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Originally posted by nkotb:
Besides, you all are kidding yourselves if you wouldn't be banging starlets (or stars as the case may be) if a little fame & fortune crossed your paths...
I'd at least be banging someone a bit more classy than Nichole Ritchie!
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village voice's less generous take on GC: http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0713,shinefield,76206,22.html (http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0713,shinefield,76206,22.html)
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Sales have slumped at Hot Topic recently. And the food court wiggers have moved on to Borders.
Wiggers????
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Yes. Interesting article.
I'm not gonna lie, I bought their first album when I was 10 years old and thought they were really cool and got all excited every time I heard them on HFS...it was a quality pop-punk record. You know, that stuff is fun to dance to when you are young and don't know any better. But their second album didn't do anything for me; it was pretty over-produced and slick sounding...too marketable. Though maybe that was the point in my life when I realized that most pop-punk wasn't quality at all...
Sometimes when I read Betty's posts I feel like I'm watching that kid in the movie Jesus Camp who said "I was saved when I was 5. I just felt like my life had no meaning."
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There are more singalongs, more songs, including "Little Things," the first track on the first album. In recorded form, it opens with a dedication: "To every kid that got picked last in gym class; to every kid that never had a date to no school dance; to everyone who's ever been called a freak." Another loser anthem. On stage, the band's version of "Little Things" emphasizes the twins' experiences growing up, from "the time in school when we got free lunch and the cool kids beat us up" to "the time that girl broke up with me cause I wasn't cool enough."
the cool kids in the 90s in my high school in florida were the ones with fugazi and sunny day real estate patches on their backpack ... is that weird?
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Sounds like you went to an upper middle class school in suburbia. ;)
Originally posted by Hoyas Final 4:
There are more singalongs, more songs, including "Little Things," the first track on the first album. In recorded form, it opens with a dedication: "To every kid that got picked last in gym class; to every kid that never had a date to no school dance; to everyone who's ever been called a freak." Another loser anthem. On stage, the band's version of "Little Things" emphasizes the twins' experiences growing up, from "the time in school when we got free lunch and the cool kids beat us up" to "the time that girl broke up with me cause I wasn't cool enough."
the cool kids in the 90s in my high school in florida were the ones with fugazi and sunny day real estate patches on their backpack ... is that weird? [/b]
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these guys suck. their music sucks and they suck as people. i seen benji (or joel, whatever) in annapolis all the time, often with a body guard - even though no one gives a fuck who he is. they fell out of the spot light years ago, why post an article about a bunch of shitty has beens?
in other news, the 930 club over charges for beer and is full of pretentious hipsters.
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wrong - that's not news.
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
Was pretty good, interesting view of a band trying to get back on top.
agreed, that was better than most of the stuff i read in spin / rolling stone ... for as much shit as j-free takes on here, he's a really solid writer
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Originally posted by bull930:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Sales have slumped at Hot Topic recently. And the food court wiggers have moved on to Borders.
Wiggers???? [/b]
They prefer to be called Whafrican Whamericans.
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The show is at 9:30 and Army of Me is opening.
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just kidding...still at the cat...
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Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
This quote says pretty much all you need to know:
"Honestly, I wouldn't be standing here right now if it wasn't for them. I live in West Virginia and have purple hair. People stare at me and give me a hard time. Joel and Benj know what it's like to be a total outcast and a misfit. They made me proud to be different."
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i wish they would slit their wrists with me.
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how many pretentious hipsters actually hang out at the 930 club? I think you're more likely to find them at Saint Ex.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
how many pretentious hipsters actually hang out at the 930 club? I think you're more likely to find them at Saint Ex.
hipsters? at saint ex? are you talking about like a random monday night?
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Did anyone else see the review in this week's NY Times? (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/26/arts/music/26choi.html?_r=1&oref=slogin)
Ouch:
GOOD CHARLOTTE
??Good Morning Revival?
(Epic/Daylight)
Joel and Benji Madden are the twins who lead the pop-punk band Good Charlotte, and they??re the kind of people who show up on magazine covers and start clothing lines and date Hilary Duff. (She spent a few years with Joel, who is now being photographed alongside Nicole Richie.) But ??The Chronicles of Life and Death,? from 2004, was a dud, overblown and, not coincidentally, underbought. Now it??s time for the Madden twins to make amends.
What they have made instead is ??Good Morning Revival,? a mystifyingly inept CD that includes some of the worst lyrics you will ?? or, with any luck, won??t ?? hear all year. ??Keep Your Hands Off My Girl? is a foolhardy foray into rap (??The hipsters mean-muggin?? on me all night long?); ??Something Else? is a clumsy ode to odd coupledom (??Her daddy??s a lawyer, and mine??s not around/She has good manners, I??m rough all around?); ??All Black,? which strains in vain for anthemhood (??Take a look at my life, all black/Take a look at my clothes, all black?), may single-handedly convince the nation??s goths to embrace pastels.
This band can still crank out a grand chorus, and there??s one in ??The River,? about decadent Los Angeles. But to find the album??s most memorable moment, you??ll have to explore ??Where Would We Be?,? a sub-Coldplay ballad that contains this admission: ??I must confess that I??m a sinking ship,/and I??m anchored by the weight of my heart, ??cause it??s filled with these feelings.? One promising target market for this CD: countries where they don??t speak English. KELEFA SANNEH
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Chyeaaaaaah, i read it. It was good, and interesting...and kinda made me like Benji and Joel. Butttt it was odd the was they weren't such "losers" in high school...but they indirectly "claim" it alot in their music.
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Ding ding ding.
As a reformed "outcast", I'm always amused when people make statements that imply that they were BORN with purple hair.
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Originally posted by Brandon Brendall, the thief:
This quote says pretty much all you need to know:
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"Honestly, I wouldn't be standing here right now if it wasn't for them. I live in West Virginia and have purple hair. People stare at me and give me a hard time. Joel and Benj know what it's like to be a total outcast and a misfit. They made me proud to be different."
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Pooor girl, shes gonna be picked on a tad bit more. But, yeah, nobody is born with purple hair...you have to get purple Manic Panic for that :p
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While people may not be born with purple hair, perhaps some people are born with purple-haired souls. :)
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But people are born with black hair with purple highlights.