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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: ggw on August 13, 2003, 09:27:00 am
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50-Iron Butterfly
49-Toad The Wet Sprocket
48-Master P
47-Goo Goo Dolls
46-The Spin Doctors
45-Gipsy Kings
44-Manowar
43-Mike & the Mechanics
42-Rick Wakeman
41-Whitesnake
40-Blind Melon
39-Bob Geldof
38-Nelson
37-The Doors
36-98 Degrees
35-Paul Oakenfold
34-Live
33-Japan
32-The Hooters
31-Arrested Development
30-Richard Marx
29-Skinny Puppy
28-Crash Test Dummies
27-Color Me Badd
26-Celine Dion
25-Jamiroquai
24-Bad English
23-Creed
22-Primus
21-The Alan Parsons Project
20-Howard Jones
19-Dan Fogelberg
18-Pat Boone
17-Benzino
16-Oingo Boingo
15-Yanni
14-Yngwie Malmsteen
13-Mick Jagger
12-Tin Machine
11-Latoya Jackson
10-Air Supply
9-Lee Greenwood
8-Vanilla Ice
7-Asia
6-Kansas
5-Starship
4-Kenny G.
3-Michael Bolton
2-Emerson, Lake, & Palmer
1-Insane Clown Posse
http://www.blender.com/articles/article_466.html (http://www.blender.com/articles/article_466.html)
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I understand why all of those acts are derisable, except the doors. What did the doors do to end up on that list?
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Delete - Japan
Add - Thompson Twins
Find a place on the list, anywhere, for Wilco.
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Tin Machine? How can you really go wrong with Bowie and Soupy Sales kids. The Tin Machine album while not great was the worst either. Maybe the followup was a real stinker.
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
I understand why all of those acts are derisable, except the doors. What did the doors do to end up on that list?
They sounded too much like The Stranglers!
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Once they put Yngwie on the list, all credibility was lost.
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J.D. Considine doesn't know shit from shinola about good music. Has he mentioned that he interviewd Madonna?
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i agree with mankie on the Wilco thing
and ggw on Yngwie! come on not Yngwie!
and i think Skinny Puppy and Primus should be off as well as the Doors. and Paul Oakenfold, well, he's a DJ and he does really suck until you see the effect he has on 500 candy ravers. hes not THAT bad.
can we get GWAR on that list somehow?
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i think i meant 5000 candy ravers...either way , its frightening
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Anyone who can't appreciate Wilco qualifies as a retarded in my estimation
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Come on. As long as guys like Eddie Murphy and Joey Lawrence attempt music careers, 90% of the bands on this list do not belong.
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Originally posted by Celeste:
Anyone who can't appreciate Wilco qualifies as a retarded in my estimation
Anyone who uses bad grammar whilst calling someone retarded must like Wilco.
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Oingo Boingo was better than Madonna
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Any magazine that would employ such a dubious motherfucker like J.D. Considine to hold court on musical taste deserves just a wee pinch of salt with anything they print.
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The real issue is why is the list racist?
for example,
Vanilla Ice makes the list Hc Hammer is absent.
Celine Dion, tick, Whitney Houston, no tick
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Does Mariah Carey skip the list because she's getting knobbed by whatisface from Janes Addiction??
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Anyone who used the word "whilst" must be a bible toting Christian. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Celeste:
Anyone who can't appreciate Wilco qualifies as a retarded in my estimation
Anyone who uses bad grammar whilst calling someone retarded must like Wilco. [/b]
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Celeste:
Anyone who can't appreciate Wilco qualifies as a retarded in my estimation
Anyone who uses bad grammar whilst calling someone retarded must like Wilco. [/b]
Sorry! I'm actually busy WORKING, but, felt I had to defend one of the greatest bands...point taken...but still, I could see how one might be indifferent to Wilco but to actively dislike them? I can't belive it :o
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That's Carmen Electra.
Mariah Carey is black, thus as Markie points out, she doesn't make the list.
Originally posted by mankie:
Does Mariah Carey skip the list because she's getting knobbed by whatisface from Janes Addiction??
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
That's Carmen Electra.
Mariah Carey is black, thus as Markie points out, she doesn't make the list.
Originally posted by mankie:
Does Mariah Carey skip the list because she's getting knobbed by whatisface from Janes Addiction??
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I saw a video with Ms. Carey and whatsisface on Sunday....there's no reason why he would do a video with her unless he's gett'n some, just no eff'n way.
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Originally posted by Celeste:
Sorry! I'm actually busy WORKING, but, felt I had to defend one of the greatest bands...point taken...but still, I could see how one might be indifferent to Wilco but to actively dislike them? I can't belive it :o
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I HATE WILCO..THEY ARE TOTAL SHITE!
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
The real issue is why is the list racist?
for example,
Vanilla Ice makes the list Hc Hammer is absent.
Celine Dion, tick, Whitney Houston, no tick
<img src="http://images2.fotki.com/v20/photos/9/94294/354370/1059436626_2483028032FU-vi.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Yes, but you like Feargal Sharkey. Case closed.
How many Wilco albums have you listened to in their entirety, and how many shows have you been to? If you have been to a show, as well as listend to all six of their albums, and still hate them, well that's fine...
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Celeste:
Sorry! I'm actually busy WORKING, but, felt I had to defend one of the greatest bands...point taken...but still, I could see how one might be indifferent to Wilco but to actively dislike them? I can't belive it :o
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I HATE WILCO..THEY ARE TOTAL SHITE! [/b]
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Celeste:
Sorry! I'm actually busy WORKING, but, felt I had to defend one of the greatest bands...point taken...but still, I could see how one might be indifferent to Wilco but to actively dislike them? I can't belive it :o
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I HATE WILCO..THEY ARE TOTAL SHITE! [/b]
"Total shite" would be angry if it heard you say that!
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Celeste:
Sorry! I'm actually busy WORKING, but, felt I had to defend one of the greatest bands...point taken...but still, I could see how one might be indifferent to Wilco but to actively dislike them? I can't belive it :o
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I HATE WILCO..THEY ARE TOTAL SHITE! [/b]
"Total shite" would be angry if it heard you say that! [/b]
Sorry, no offense to total shite intended.
"WILCO ARE ALT-COUNTRY".....better? ;)
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haha, yes.
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This list is so shitty it is almost not worth commenting on. Take Live for example...ok some bad albums, but Mental Jewelry and Throwing Copper are both some of the best albums of the grunge 90s. And Air Supply, I mean, yeah sappy good for nothing music, but still catchy pop tunes. I think it is pretty close-minded to label so many 80s bands as garbage just cause their music was so light and fluffy, or too pop based perhaps. And the Hooters...man. Just cause something is not edgy or different, it gets labled as bad? not all music has to open your eyes to something, it can be ok and just be the same old. I'm not saying any of these artists are great, but many of them do not belong on this list. And Toad the Wet Sprocket, thats just wrong, plain and simple.
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Originally posted by redsock:
And Toad the Wet Sprocket, thats just wrong, plain and simple.
haha, i was in this dive bar in Cleveland saturday and i missed two women getting in a fist fight over the bathroom because i was talking to some kid about toad the wet sprocket.
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I see no country or alt-country artists on this list. Thus, I have to say that whoever made the list is alright by me.
Though I would have put Billy Ray Cyrus, Shania Twain, and maybe a couple of other country artists on it.
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Originally posted by redsock:
This list is so shitty it is almost not worth commenting on. Take Live for example...ok some bad albums, but Mental Jewelry and Throwing Copper are both some of the best albums of the grunge 90s. And Air Supply, I mean, yeah sappy good for nothing music, but still catchy pop tunes. I think it is pretty close-minded to label so many 80s bands as garbage just cause their music was so light and fluffy, or too pop based perhaps. And the Hooters...man. Just cause something is not edgy or different, it gets labled as bad? not all music has to open your eyes to something, it can be ok and just be the same old. I'm not saying any of these artists are great, but many of them do not belong on this list. And Toad the Wet Sprocket, thats just wrong, plain and simple.
You can take one off if we can add Dashboard Confessional.
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I read that the new Dashobard album was good stuff. But saying that this midget has "model good looks"? Please!
Confessional: Between Rock and a Heartbreak
By Shannon Zimmerman
Special to The Washington Post
Wednesday, August 13, 2003; Page C05
Like the overearnest classmate who writes a page and a half of "poetry" in your yearbook, Dashboard Confessional's Chris Carrabba is an iffy proposition.
On the one hand, the guy's got an achy-breaky heart and an apparently deep-seated need to tell you all about it. On the other, it's easy to suspect that Carrabba's Mr. Sensitive routine is just a time-honored ploy to get girls. After all, what's a guy with model good looks and more tattoos than a Lollapalooza road crew got to be so weepy about?
Sometimes, though, Carrabba's woe-is-me act can be pretty convincing. He's the darling of indie-rock's "emo" scene, thanks mainly to 2001's "The Places You Have Come to Fear the Most," a sad-sack opus pockmarked by angsty rants with titles like "Again I Go Unnoticed" and "Screaming Infidelities." The latter tune in particular racked up heavy rotation on alt-rock radio, and, a mere two albums into his career, MTV rewarded Carrabba with his very own episode of "Unplugged 2.0."
Now it's follow-through time. Judging from the manifesto-like title of Dashboard Confessional's third studio long-player, "A Mark, a Mission, a Brand, a Scar," Carrabba thinks that this time around, lots of folks who weren't paying attention before are sure to tune in now.
And he may be right. The new album is tighter and slicker than Dashboard Confessional's earlier work, and it's also more straightforwardly "rock." Mostly gone are the acoustic guitar strumfests that earned the singer-songwriter the obsessive cult following that chants along to every song during concerts. Now, turned on and plugged in, Carrabba and his band are vying for the same weekly-allowance dollars that might otherwise go to the likes of Blink-182 or even Avril Lavigne.
Which means that Dashboard Confessional doesn't waste a second here. The album opener, "Hands Down," is easily the disc's best tune, a percolating, pop-punk thriller laced with Carrabba's whisper-to-a-scream singing and a frenetic rhythm attack that practically dares you to run in place. Even better, for once in his life, Carrabba isn't such a mope-a-dope. "My hopes are so high that your kiss might kill me," he intones like the hopeful romantic he ain't. "So won't you kill me, so I die happy."
Fat chance. Mr. Misery reverts to form elsewhere, waxing just as morose as ever. He follows the Paxil-ated "Hands Down," for instance, with the aptly titled "Rapid Hope Loss," wherein the band ricochets gamely between crunchy power chords and jangly arpeggios as their leader's love life flames out. "Now that I can see you / I don't think you're worth a second glance," Carrabba snipes just before the song's genuine fist-pumper of a chorus kicks in.
And so it goes, with Dashboard Confessional alternating drippy love-conquers-all head fakes ("As Lovers Go," "Carry This Picture") with embittered post-breakup screeds ("Ghost of a Good Thing," "So Beautiful"). The latter are more convincing, but regardless of which angle he's working, Carrabba's newfound knack for arena-ready melodies rarely fails him.
The guy may be rock's current king of pain, after all, but he's savvy enough to know that if you really want to bring the heartache, Bic-flicking anthems will almost always do the trick.
Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
You can take one off if we can add Dashboard Confessional. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
You can take one off if we can add Dashboard Confessional. [/b]
Thank you for reminding me that the new album came out yesterday. Whatever your feelings about DC are, there are a 1000 more emo/pop-punk bands that deserve to go up on that list before he does. I would make a crack about GBV, but i honestly haven't heard any of their stuff, despite the prolific nature of your namesake. So I'll just bide my time.....
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Come on Dashhwank are bad, but before them there are loads of 70s and 80s acts to go on the list:
The eagles
Journey
Toto
any band named after a city or continent
Chicago
Asia
are fine examples.
would no one really like to see J-lo burn in hell?
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Come on Dashhwank are bad, but before them there are loads of 70s and 80s acts to go on the list:
The eagles
Journey
Toto
any band named after a city or continent
Chicago
Asia
are fine examples.
would no one really like to see J-lo burn in hell?
Thank you so much for adding the Eagles. Also add any Eagles related solo stuff (Glen Frye or whoever, Don Henly)
While I'm at it, I declare Steve Miller Band and Bad Company among the absolute worst rock bands of all time.
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Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Come on Dashhwank are bad, but before them there are loads of 70s and 80s acts to go on the list:
The eagles
Journey
Toto
any band named after a city or continent
Chicago
Asia
are fine examples.
would no one really like to see J-lo burn in hell?
Thank you so much for adding the Eagles. Also add any Eagles related solo stuff (Glen Frye or whoever, Don Henly)
While I'm at it, I declare Steve Miller Band and Bad Company among the absolute worst rock bands of all time. [/b]
So bascially, anything played on 94.7 the arrow is shit to you all. You are all so closed minded sometimes. Though I would agree with the Eagles comments, they do suck, not sure what the appeal is there.
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hey, some people call me Maurice, some call me the gangster of love.
lay off Steve Miller.
And I have a soft spot for eagles members gone solo.... Could you really hate the boys of summer and the heat is on? Probably if you had any sense
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Yes, but you like Feargal Sharkey. Case closed.
How many Wilco albums have you listened to in their entirety, and how many shows have you been to? If you have been to a show, as well as listend to all six of their albums, and still hate them, well that's fine...
Saw them live twice, once with Billy Bragg..why would I buy an album to listen to if I think they're shite live?
Also, there's no alt-cuntry on the list for the same reason Hall & Oates aren't...they're just not considered "Artists in music"
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Originally posted by redsock:
]So bascially, anything played on 94.7 the arrow is shit to you all. You are all so closed minded sometimes. Though I would agree with the Eagles comments, they do suck, not sure what the appeal is there.
hotel California is quite amusing, the rest of that album gave me a nose bleed....
I have never listened to 94.7, I only listen to internet radio stations, old timer. Is 94.7 the local bland soft rock station...... Oh that made me remember Heart. Heart deserve to be on that lis and Wilson Phillips.......
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Originally posted by mankie:
Also, there's no alt-cuntry on the list for the same reason Hall & Oates aren't...they're just not considered "Artists in music"
Mankie who did your mate go and see live again? I am amazed you havent added them to the list......
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by mankie:
Also, there's no alt-cuntry on the list for the same reason Hall & Oates aren't...they're just not considered "Artists in music"
Mankie who did your mate go and see live again? I am amazed you havent added them to the list...... [/b]
Huey Lewis....he's no mate, well not since that comment anyway!
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Considering the 80s were the greatest time for music, America was producing an awful lot of shite. I guess they had Madonna to compenste though.
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Look everyone.....and I never said it!
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Considering the 80s were the greatest time for music, America was producing an awful lot of shite. I guess they had Madonna to compenste though.
Shite?
Replacements
Husker Du
Pixies
Minor Threat
Black Flag
Mission of Burma
Minutemen
Sonic Youth
etc.....
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I see no country or alt-country artists on this list. Thus, I have to say that whoever made the list is alright by me.
Though I would have put Billy Ray Cyrus, Shania Twain, and maybe a couple of other country artists on it.
Thats saved for the 50 worst "genres" in music history i think.
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New Kids On The Block
Another Bad Creation
Kris Kross
and what about current bands..
Limp Bizkit
Wilco
Sigur Ros
Northern State
Clem Snide (knife turning bad!)
surely they are all WAY worse than Skinny Puppy!
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Considering the 80s were the greatest time for music, America was producing an awful lot of shite. I guess they had Madonna to compenste though.
ok, so how do you explain your little "Flock of Seagulls" thing...and America was producing shite?
I have 2 words for that...Thompson Twins.
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Originally posted by mankie:
Saw them live twice, once with Billy Bragg..why would I buy an album to listen to if I think they're shite live?
I don't think Wilco ever backed up Bragg live... They only backed him in the studio. I'm sure some Wilco expert can confirm or deny this. I recall tepid review of the Mermaid Avenue tour due to Bragg's less than stellar backing unit.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Considering the 80s were the greatest time for music, America was producing an awful lot of shite. I guess they had Madonna to compenste though.
ok, so how do you explain your little "Flock of Seagulls" thing...and America was producing shite?
I have 2 words for that...Thompson Twins. [/b]
Flock of seagulls were scousers so are excused!...and I already mentioned the Thompson Twins, I want them to replace Japan who I thought were pretty good, and put on a great live show by the way.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Considering the 80s were the greatest time for music, America was producing an awful lot of shite. I guess they had Madonna to compenste though.
ok, so how do you explain your little "Flock of Seagulls" thing...and America was producing shite?
I have 2 words for that...Thompson Twins. [/b]
Hey man, don't mess with those Flock of Seagulls! You've gotta love a Scouser with big hair....or a Mancunian with any hair!
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by mankie:
Saw them live twice, once with Billy Bragg..why would I buy an album to listen to if I think they're shite live?
I don't think Wilco ever backed up Bragg live... They only backed him in the studio. I'm sure some Wilco expert can confirm or deny this. I recall tepid review of the Mermaid Avenue tour due to Bragg's less than stellar backing unit. [/b]
When I saw him for the last time at the 930 he introduced his backing band as "Wilco".
The tepid review of the Mermaid Avenue tour was simply because it was bloody awful, plain and simple.
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Any "worst of" list without Guns & Roses is definitely flawed. Axl Rose's voice could grate cheese!
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i think he was announcing his drummer
"Will Cough"
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Considering the 80s were the greatest time for music, America was producing an awful lot of shite. I guess they had Madonna to compenste though.
ok, so how do you explain your little "Flock of Seagulls" thing...and America was producing shite?
I have 2 words for that...Thompson Twins. [/b]
Flock of seagulls were scousers so are excused!...and I already mentioned the Thompson Twins, I want them to replace Japan who I thought were pretty good, and put on a great live show by the way. [/b]
Agreed Mankie. David Sylvain has a great voice and "Ghost" is one of the best singles of the 80's.
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Originally posted by Yank:
Any "worst of" list without Guns & Roses is definitely flawed. Axl Rose's voice could grate cheese!
I thought of them, but couldn't be arsed and didn't want to offend my American friends...both of them!
But now you've mentioned them, how about
Bon Jovi
Aerosmith
KISS
Van Halen
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Originally posted by Yank:
Agreed Mankie. David Sylvain has a great voice and "Ghost" is one of the best singles of the 80's.
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....easy there big fella, you've agreed with mankie regarding music, in public no less!
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Yank:
Any "worst of" list without Guns & Roses is definitely flawed. Axl Rose's voice could grate cheese!
I thought of them, but couldn't be arsed and didn't want to offend my American friends...both of them!
But now you've mentioned them, how about
Bon Jovi
Aerosmith
KISS
Van Halen
?? [/b]
The first two Aerosmith albums were pretty good. The other three are complete crap.
Hell, you could add almost any Canadian band to the list, starting with Loverboy. But leave The Guess Who off the list. They were a good pop band.
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Yank:
Agreed Mankie. David Sylvain has a great voice and "Ghost" is one of the best singles of the 80's.
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....easy there big fella, you've agreed with mankie regarding music, in public no less! [/b]
I'll try not to let it happen again! :D
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Originally posted by mankie:
Bon Jovi
Aerosmith
KISS
Van Halen
??
I like GnR, but I have no clue as to what anyone would like in any of the above. Especially Van Halen, every picture I have seen of them makes me want to burst out laughing, yet the doodles love 'em, why?
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by mankie:
Bon Jovi
Aerosmith
KISS
Van Halen
??
I like GnR, but I have no clue as to what anyone would like in any of the above. Especially Van Halen, every picture I have seen of them makes me want to burst out laughing, yet the doodles love 'em, why? [/b]
I don't think I've ever seen a picture of Eddie Van Halen without him showing those 65 pearly whites.
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Van Halen Rulez!
Until DLR left. Then they sucked.
What's your excuse for Kajagoogoo?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Van Halen Rulez!
Until DLR left. Then they sucked.
What's your excuse for Kajagoogoo?
there are no excuses for Kajagoogoo. But no one took them seriously and I doubt you would find anyone who would admit to liking them. That is not the case with Van Halen, is it?
Why do Van Halen rule(z)
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Why do Van Halen rule(z)
Because they played Spicoli's birthday party after he saved Brooke Shields from drowning:
<img src="http://www.rippleillusions.com/spicoli.gif" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Van Halen Rulez!
Until DLR left. Then they sucked.
What's your excuse for Kajagoogoo?
The silent majority think they sucked before he left.
Let's not forget about:
Whitesnake
Motely Crue
Twisted Sister
Def Leppard
Cinderalla
Poison
and any other of those 80's hair bands.
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
[qb] Originally posted by mankie:
[qb] Huey Lewis....he's no mate, well not since that comment anyway! [/b]
huey lewis is at wolftrap this sunday nite
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Originally posted by Yank:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Van Halen Rulez!
Until DLR left. Then they sucked.
What's your excuse for Kajagoogoo?
The silent majority think they sucked before he left.
Let's not forget about:
Whitesnake
Motely Crue
Twisted Sister
Def Leppard
Cinderalla
Poison
and any other of those 80's hair bands. [/b]
Van Halen was hardly an '80s hair-metal band.
They were just completely-over-the-top larger-than-life hard rock. Most of the people that don't like them just take themselves and their musical taste too seriously.
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1. I would not judge Wilco by their two Mermaid Avenue records. Though there are a handful of good songs on each (most of them the ones with Jeff Tweedy on lead, not Billy Bragg), much of both are pretty mediocre. Any Wilco concert that featured the Mermaid Avenue material as its star attraction probably DID suck compared to when they were highlighting other albums.
2. Though the 80's did have it's share of good ROCK bands, both British, and American, I would say the 50's were a much better decade for MUSIC. Rock and roll was at its vibrant origins. Country music was REAL...before it went all pop...and jazz was still a great thing...before it went all fusion-y and smoooooth.
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Originally posted by mankie:
Does Mariah Carey skip the list because she's getting knobbed by whatisface from Janes Addiction??
more details on this please. The girl who had a nervous breakdown for filming Glitter seems to get around with the "bad boys" maybe she'd be better off with someone from pearl jam...
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Originally posted by tiia:
she'd be better off with someone from pearl jam...
Yeah she probably would be better with somebody who actually has TALENT.
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Yeah she probably would be better with somebody who actually has TALENT.
do you have talent?
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<img src="http://www.i-mockery.com/absolut/mariah-large.jpg" alt=" - " />
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nice booboos
http://www.deansplanet.com/mariah_french_fans.html (http://www.deansplanet.com/mariah_french_fans.html)
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Yank:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Van Halen Rulez!
Until DLR left. Then they sucked.
What's your excuse for Kajagoogoo?
The silent majority think they sucked before he left.
Let's not forget about:
Whitesnake
Motely Crue
Twisted Sister
Def Leppard
Cinderalla
Poison
and any other of those 80's hair bands. [/b]
Van Halen was hardly an '80s hair-metal band.
They were just completely-over-the-top larger-than-life hard rock. Most of the people that don't like them just take themselves and their musical taste too seriously. [/b]
Wow, that's a completely over the top statement. If you don't like Van Halen, you take yourself and your musical taste too seriously!???? Is there a scientific study to back this ridiculious comment up?
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Originally posted by Yank:
Hell, you could add almost any Canadian band to the list, starting with Loverboy. But leave The Guess Who off the list. They were a good pop band. [/b]
now now!!! I dont think Loverboy is fair! Most Canadians dont even know they are Canadian. What about Rush and (you mentioned The Guess Who), dont forget Neil Young, Tragically Hip, Men Without Hats, Anvil (haha), Platinum Blonde, BTO, and Paul Anka. Gordon Lightfoot, and Rufus Wainwright,
ok, i will stop.....and i think Our Lady Peace is damn good as well.
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Originally posted by tiia:
Originally posted by mankie:
Does Mariah Carey skip the list because she's getting knobbed by whatisface from Janes Addiction??
more details on this please. The girl who had a nervous breakdown for filming Glitter seems to get around with the "bad boys" maybe she'd be better off with someone from pearl jam... [/b]
I saw a Mariah Carey video on Sunday with Dave Navarro playing guitar....they were doing the usual nookie scenes during the vid too. Almost got a nip-shot, but not quite. I can't imagine why he would do such a video unless there was dipping of the wick involved.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Yank:
Hell, you could add almost any Canadian band to the list, starting with Loverboy. But leave The Guess Who off the list. They were a good pop band. [/b]
now now!!! I dont think Loverboy is fair! Most Canadians dont even know they are Canadian. What about Rush and (you mentioned The Guess Who), dont forget Neil Young, Tragically Hip, Men Without Hats, Anvil (haha), Platinum Blonde, BTO, and Paul Anka. Gordon Lightfoot, and Rufus Wainwright,
ok, i will stop.....and i think Our Lady Peace is damn good as well. [/b]
lets not forget "Cowboy Junkies"...and I don't care how good the band is, I refuse to like a band called "our lady peace" it's just a stupid name.
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now you sound like markie.
and it really could be worse...mr. flock of seagulls
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
now you sound like markie.
and it really could be worse...mr. flock of seagulls
thanks Sonick. When I skimmed through I thought I had actually posted Mankies comments. Perhaps we are both just tragically hip?
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ahhh. . .the hipster backlash against 70s rock and anything from the 80s that wasn't "indie."
and hearing critism of american rock bands from 2 brits is quite amusing (not to mention quite grating), although def leppard was british. all i have to say is that "pyromania" is one of theeeee best albums of the 80s.
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Originally posted by Yank:
Wow, that's a completely over the top statement. If you don't like Van Halen, you take yourself and your musical taste too seriously!???? Is there a scientific study to back this ridiculious comment up?
I implied correlation not causation.
The study can be found in the Journal of American Music, Vol.VII.4, February 1997; 34-42.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
now you sound like markie.
and it really could be worse...mr. flock of seagulls
I refer you back to the scouser clause.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
although def leppard was british.
they still are, unlike Mankie.
I just dont see you in the outfit though: <img src="http://www.thefox.com/timages/page/def-leppard.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Yank:
Hell, you could add almost any Canadian band to the list, starting with Loverboy. But leave The Guess Who off the list. They were a good pop band. [/b]
now now!!! I dont think Loverboy is fair! Most Canadians dont even know they are Canadian. What about Rush and (you mentioned The Guess Who), dont forget Neil Young, Tragically Hip, Men Without Hats, Anvil (haha), Platinum Blonde, BTO, and Paul Anka. Gordon Lightfoot, and Rufus Wainwright,
ok, i will stop.....and i think Our Lady Peace is damn good as well. [/b]
You Canucks have no sense of humor! ;)
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Originally posted by Yank:
You Canucks have no sense of humor! ;)
look, he admitted to liking our lady peace. There is no surer sign of a sense of humour.
No one has mentioned Ryan Adams, Barenaked Ladies or Alannis Nicorette.
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
although def leppard was british.
they still are, unlike Mankie.
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HEY! HEY! HEY! I'm English born, English bred, strong int arm, thick int ed!
<img src="http://www.nikon.co.uk/fotoshare/articles/images/leg_dow_4s.jpg" alt=" - " />
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you commoners can never work out how to post pictures.
<img src="http://www.lancslacs.co.uk/lancs_images/arnold_greenhalgh.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
ahhh. . .the hipster backlash against 70s rock and anything from the 80s that wasn't "indie."
and hearing critism of american rock bands from 2 brits is quite amusing (not to mention quite grating), although def leppard was british. all i have to say is that "pyromania" is one of theeeee best albums of the 80s.
Don't take it to heart V. Bede. Most of my friends over here in England like American bands as much, if not more, than the British bands. I feel like such an outcast!
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by Yank:
You Canucks have no sense of humor! :)
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by Yank:
You Canucks have no sense of humor! :)
And we thank you for that.
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
although def leppard was british.
they still are, unlike Mankie.
[/b]
HEY! HEY! HEY! I'm English born, English bred, strong int arm, thick int ed!
<img src="http://www.nikon.co.uk/fotoshare/articles/images/leg_dow_4s.jpg" alt=" - " /> [/b]
<img src="http://www.bfi.org.uk/features/tv/2000/images/league.jpg" alt=" - " />
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This thread is incredible...
50 worst in Music History?...Wilco and Ryan Adams?
When did becoming media darlings make somebody an awful musician? You have to admit that Ryan Adams and Tweedy and company are incredibly talented. I am sure most people on this board raved about Wilco and Whiskeytown five years ago.
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Originally posted by The Bombay Doorsâ?¢:
<img src="http://www.bfi.org.uk/features/tv/2000/images/league.jpg" alt=" - " />
I know what to buy you fro Christmas: no girls pooing or otherwise here. (http://www.geocities.com/mamashaz/Squidgits)
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Originally posted by allmy$to930:
This thread is incredible...
50 worst in Music History?...Wilco and Ryan Adams?
they are both shite, but it should be clear I meant Bryan Adams originally.
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Originally posted by allmy$to930:
I am sure most people on this board raved about Wilco and Whiskeytown five years ago.
Well I didn't...any others with me on this one?
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by The Bombay Doorsâ?¢:
<img src="http://www.bfi.org.uk/features/tv/2000/images/league.jpg" alt=" - " />
I know what to buy you fro Christmas: no girls pooing or otherwise here. (http://www.geocities.com/mamashaz/Squidgits) [/b]
You do know season #2 is unavailable on region-1 DVD? It's region-2 only. What a shame...
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Originally posted by The Bombay Doorsâ?¢:
You do know season #2 is unavailable on region-1 DVD? It's region-2 only. What a shame...
I didnt know that. My wife bought me season 1 already, I thought most of the BBC DVDs were all regions?
the new season is on BBC America right now, but I only saw one episode.
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by allmy$to930:
I am sure most people on this board raved about Wilco and Whiskeytown five years ago.
Well I didn't...any others with me on this one? [/b]
I was still raving about soft cell being big in Norway.
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I've found that many of the people on this board were not musically savvy enough to have heard of Wilco, and especially Whiskeytown, five years ago.
Originally posted by allmy$to930:
This thread is incredible...
50 worst in Music History?...Wilco and Ryan Adams?
When did becoming media darlings make somebody an awful musician? You have to admit that Ryan Adams and Tweedy and company are incredibly talented. I am sure most people on this board raved about Wilco and Whiskeytown five years ago.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] I've found that many of the people on this board were not musically savvy enough to have heard of Wilco, and especially Whiskeytown, five years ago.
Or maybe we just have better taste in music.
I've come to the realization Rhett is more of an arrogant obnoxious elitist little prick than GGW....sorry GGW, you're #2 now.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I've found that many of the people on this board were not musically savvy enough to have heard of Wilco, and especially Whiskeytown, five years ago.
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I had heard of wilco because of Billy Bragg. I have still not knowingly heard whiskeytown. Ryan Adams album was horrible.
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I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, and I stand by my statement. Who here had heard of Whiskeytown five years ago, and who had not heard of them? I would guess most had not.
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Originally posted by mankie:
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I've come to the realization Rhett is more of an arrogant obnoxious elitist little prick than GGW....sorry GGW, you're #2 now.
whist all the above is quite possibly true. I do think Rhett has a point.... I certainly wasnt listening to whiskeytown five years ago.
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Originally posted by mankie:
I've come to the realization Rhett is more of an arrogant obnoxious elitist little prick than GGW....sorry GGW, you're #2 now.
I demand a recount!!
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, and I stand by my statement. Who here had heard of Whiskeytown five years ago, and who had not heard of them? I would guess most had not.
I had heard 'of' Whiskeytown, but not heard their music.
As for Wilco, I had heard them quite a while ago and found them to be really quite shit from the get-go. I also saw them in concert supporting some band that I can't even remember now, and thought it would be a good time to go for a pee and to get a beer while they were on stage.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by mankie:
I've come to the realization Rhett is more of an arrogant obnoxious elitist little prick than GGW....sorry GGW, you're #2 now.
I demand a recount!! [/b]
I am the supreme court on this issue, no recount needed, Rhetts the winner.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, and I stand by my statement. Who here had heard of Whiskeytown five years ago, and who had not heard of them? I would guess most had not.
I had heard of them but did not listen to them.
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I'm only an elitist when it comes to music. I'll bet GGW would take the prize in most other categories.
Hell, my wife is arguably more of an elitist than me on most matters. Good thing she considers my musical elitism a good thing. :)
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Hell, my wife is arguably more of an elitist than me on most matters.
Obviously not when it comes to choosing a husband.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I've found that many of the people on this board were not musically savvy enough to have heard of Wilco, and especially Whiskeytown, five years ago.
Originally posted by allmy$to930:
This thread is incredible...
50 worst in Music History?...Wilco and Ryan Adams?
When did becoming media darlings make somebody an awful musician? You have to admit that Ryan Adams and Tweedy and company are incredibly talented. I am sure most people on this board raved about Wilco and Whiskeytown five years ago.
[/b]
I saw Wilco open for REM almost 5 years ago and guess what .....
they fucking suck and havent gotten much better.
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Yes, you are right. I am more of an elitist than her at choosing a husband. NO man would ever be good enough for me to spend my life with, whereas she found ONE man who was good enough for her.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Hell, my wife is arguably more of an elitist than me on most matters.
Obviously not when it comes to choosing a husband. [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I've found that many of the people on this board were not musically savvy enough to have heard of Wilco, and especially Whiskeytown, five years ago.
I wouldnt quite say that was not musically savvy, perhaps we were just better at tuning out bad music back then.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Yes, you are right. I am more of an elitist than her at choosing a husband. NO man would ever be good enough for me to spend my life with, whereas she found ONE man who was good enough for her.
I'm guessing she settled for something a lot less than she hoped for.
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You come off even more retarded talking about two people you don't even know than when you talk about bands you don't know...
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Yes, you are right. I am more of an elitist than her at choosing a husband. NO man would ever be good enough for me to spend my life with, whereas she found ONE man who was good enough for her.
I'm guessing she settled for something a lot less than she hoped for. [/b]
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Originally posted by mankie:
As for Wilco, I had heard them quite a while ago
maybe you only heard AM, which I would say is the weakest of all Wilco albums
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this messageboard gets a little confusing, since i somehow figured more people knew each other than possibly do.
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Originally posted by mankie:
I'm guessing she settled for something a lot less than she hoped for. [/b]
<img src="http://www.rockpalastarchiv.de/bild/lore99/wilco11.jpg" alt=" - " /> perhaps she was hoping for this...
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
You come off even more retarded talking about two people you don't even know than when you talk about bands you don't know...
[/b]
I said, "I'm guessing"
v. guessed, guess·ing, guess·es
v. tr.
To predict (a result or an event) without sufficient information.
To assume, presume, or assert (a fact) without sufficient information.
Skip the English language part of your college education perhaps?
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no...Rhett is way cuter and likely much less difficult than Jeff
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Originally posted by Celeste:
Originally posted by mankie:
As for Wilco, I had heard them quite a while ago
maybe you only heard AM, which I would say is the weakest of all Wilco albums [/b]
This may be true, but first impressions tend to stick don't they?
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Isn't that just precious...the boy's trying to be all punk with the torn shirt and all. :roll:
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Wilco has changed their sound COMPLETELY over the last few years. Whereas intially they sounded like a cross between the Replacements and Gram Parsons, now they are much more experimental in their sound, and arguable a bit darker in their lyrics.
Many people who didn't like their initial sound totally love what they sound like now, and many alt-country fans who initially loved them think they sound like shit now.
So in this case, first impressions really shouldn't be applied to what they sound like now.
No offense but I still don't see you liking what they sound like now.
Ministry is another example of a band that totally changed their sound. Started off as wimpy sythn-poppers, and changed into a hard edged thrashy style band.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Wilco has changed their sound COMPLETELY over the last few years. Whereas intially they sounded like a cross between the Replacements and Gram Parsons, now they are much more experimental in their sound, and arguable a bit darker in their lyrics.
Many people who didn't like their initial sound totally love what they sound like now, and many alt-country fans who initially loved them think they sound like shit now.
So in this case, first impressions really shouldn't be applied to what they sound like now.
No offense but I still don't see you liking what they sound like now.
Ministry is another example of a band that totally changed their sound. Started off as wimpy sythn-poppers, and changed into a hard edged thrashy style band.
It is funny how that works though, because I know several people who did not like Being There when I played it in 1997 but ended up buying and enjoying it after YHF came out.
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Originally posted by mankie:
This may be true, but first impressions tend to stick don't they? [/b]
yeah, I will never be able to get over my first impression of you as a complete ass
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Originally posted by Celeste:
yeah, I will never be able to get over my first impression of you as a complete ass [/b]
I will take that as a huge compliment going by the choice you made for a husband.
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I think punks purposely strategically rip their clothes to look cool. I don't think Tweedy gives a rats ass about what he looks like, which is a good quality for a man to have, in my estimation.
Originally posted by mankie:
Isn't that just precious...the boy's trying to be all punk with the torn shirt and all. :roll:
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Celeste:
yeah, I will never be able to get over my first impression of you as a complete ass [/b]
I will take that as a huge compliment going by the choice you made for a husband. [/b]
not that I really care that much, but I do feel compelled to respond that I don't think you really know us at all based on some of the comments you've put here (about us being urban hipsters or some such nonsense
in any case, I would guess that you and yours are probably very much different from us...
I still think you're a dim wanker for not being able to appreciate Wilco, especially given some of the shit you DO like
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Okay everyone.
If you don't like the music Celeste and Rhett likes, you must be a dim wanker.
How very republican of them.
It seems "freedom of opinion" is not in their consitution.
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I'm sorry. I should've been more clear. I'm just distracted because I'm working while I fuck around on this board...I should have said that that is just ONE of the reasons I think you are a dim wanker.
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Originally posted by Celeste:
I'm sorry. I should've been more clear. I'm just distracted because I'm working while I fuck around on this board...I should have said that that is just ONE of the reasons I think you are a dim wanker.
Oh okay, thanks for clearing that up. You aren't quite the stupid cow I thought you were then.
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Originally posted by mankie:
Okay everyone.
If you don't like the music Celeste and Rhett likes, you must be a dim wanker.
How very republican of them.
It seems "freedom of opinion" is not in their consitution.
yeah, i always knew that sooner or later, your like or dislike for one band would make or break your personality...i just never knew which band it was....and now i know
thanks so very much.
i guess i should be yankee foxtrotting to work now, maybe I'll put in that new "Alt-Country's Biggest Yawners" compilation we just got in on Tuesday!
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I didn't realize Mankie liked anything that was recorded AFTER 1987 by a band that started after 1987. Talk about being elitist. I actually like hundreds of cd's that were recorded after 1987, and hundreds more before.
Oh wait, there is Carbon Leaf and My Name is Kloot...
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Here's a coinky-dink
My GF just called me and we were talking and she said "my friend at work said that Wilco sounds like Radiohead" kinda funny since we've been talking about them....and i laughed.
surely Radiohead AND Wilco fans can all be appalled at that statement.
then she said he gave her a demo of his band...do i dare listen to music written buy a guy who thinks YHF is the next OK Computer?
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Celeste:
I'm sorry. I should've been more clear. I'm just distracted because I'm working while I fuck around on this board...I should have said that that is just ONE of the reasons I think you are a dim wanker.
Oh okay, thanks for clearing that up. You aren't quite the stupid cow I thought you were then. [/b]
Cows are actually very smart and good creatures.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I didn't realize Mankie liked anything that was recorded AFTER 1987 by a band that started after 1987. Talk about being elitist. I actually like hundreds of cd's that were recorded after 1987, and hundreds more before.
Oh wait, there is Carbon Leaf and My Name is Kloot...
perhaps it is something about people not liking bands whose members are all young enough to be their children ;)
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Originally posted by Celeste:
Cows are actually very smart and good creatures. [/b]
please tell me that you did not just type that.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I didn't realize Mankie liked anything that was recorded AFTER 1987 by a band that started after 1987. Talk about being elitist. I actually like hundreds of cd's that were recorded after 1987, and hundreds more before.
Oh wait, there is Carbon Leaf and My Name is Kloot...
Fair comment coming from someone who just today made the comment that the 50's were the best era for music.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Celeste:
Cows are actually very smart and good creatures. [/b]
please tell me that you did not just type that. [/b]
why not?
anyway...you probably can't say what record shop you work at (did I infer correctly that you work in a record shop)...can you? is it DCCD?
does anyway else here experience the odd phenomenon of shitty music being played in record shops nine out of ten times you're in one?
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Originally posted by Celeste:
Cows are actually very smart and good creatures.
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Cows, smart!!!
Actually, I was referring to the fact they tend to be full of bull!
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I can see the comparisons between YHF and Radiohead. Lott of bleeps and processed sounds, not very earthy or organic in sound.
If YHF were the only Wilco album I had ever heard, I can admit that I probably wouldn't like it very much. It's a bit different than the stuff that I really prefer.
But given that I loved their early stuff, I can fathom the evolution of the band, and like the new stuff, even if it's not as much as the older stuff.
I guess that makes me the opposite of the people who came to love the old stuff only after loving the new stuff (as Bob Pollard pointed out).
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They're only full of bull once a month, when they're in heat.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Celeste:
Cows are actually very smart and good creatures.
[/b]
Cows, smart!!!
Actually, I was referring to the fact they tend to be full of bull! [/b]
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Originally posted by Celeste:
is it DCCD?
I don't think Sonick would be caught dead in DCCD, not enough mainstream selection.
The English are just so angry aren't they http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_808431.html?menu=news.latestheadlines (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_808431.html?menu=news.latestheadlines)
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i can say where i work. its Record and Tape Traders in Baltimore.
and i will be playing the new Cursive CD at 6pm :)
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Celeste:
Cows are actually very smart and good creatures. [/b]
please tell me that you did not just type that. [/b]
I just keep thinking, cows are tasty. Steak and Burgers from one mythical animal.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
i can say where i work. its Record and Tape Traders in Baltimore.
and i will be playing the new Cursive CD at 6pm :)
I don't think we would ever agree on music, you can't even play the right cursive cd ;)
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB]
They're only full of bull once a month, when they're in heat.
But that lasts them the whole month.
Let's play them some Wilco then if they don't produce milk, it means they don't like Wilco and therefore must be stupid...right?
I bet their favorite band is "Milko" :D
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Wilco has changed their sound COMPLETELY over the last few years.
So in this case, first impressions really shouldn't be applied to what they sound like now.
i saw Wilco in 1999 (i think or circa) and in July 2003 and i just dont like em. perhaps i wouldnt be so hard on them, if people didnt get so g-darn upset when someone says they suck ;)
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...or "Calf-on Leaf" ;)
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
i can say where i work. its Record and Tape Traders in Baltimore.
and i will be playing the new Cursive CD at 6pm :)
I don't think we would ever agree on music, you can't even play the right cursive cd ;) [/b]
I am only playing it because i have yet to hear it. and i was going to play it last night, but didnt have time...why? is it no good?
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
I just keep thinking, cows are tasty. Steak and Burgers from one mythical animal. [/b]
<img src="http://www.oz.net/~moz/images/meatismu.gif" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
I am only playing it because i have yet to hear it. and i was going to play it last night, but didnt have time...why? is it no good?
It is ok, but I really prefer Domestica, the new one is probably better from a songcraft point of view, but doesnt have the same effect as Domestica
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Originally posted by mankie:
I bet their favorite band is "Milko" :D [/b]
would that mean that a caterpillar's favourite band would be "Silko" ? :eek:
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Yes, nothing like eating something that lies around in its own shit all day and has been fed all kinds of growth hormones to prime it for sale. Not that those things are the poor cow's fault.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Celeste:
Cows are actually very smart and good creatures. [/b]
please tell me that you did not just type that. [/b]
I just keep thinking, cows are tasty. Steak and Burgers from one mythical animal. [/b]
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Originally posted by mankie:
[]http://www.oz.net/~moz/images/meatismu.gif[/IMG]
Yeah, you think that big quiffed twat has never eaten a steak. You fucking gullible twat.
The picture is retouched, not real. Although it is a great image about the dichotomy of man, its a Jungian thing.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Yes, nothing like eating something that lies around in its own shit all day and has been fed all kinds of growth hormones to prime it for sale. Not that those things are the poor cow's fault.
so are you guys vegetarians too? thats pretty hip
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
so are you guys vegetarians too? thats pretty hip [/QB][/QUOTE]
they cant eat vegetables in case manure was used to help them grow. No one wants to eat a gentically modified carrot that sat around in shit allday and then got irradiated so that it had a six month shelf life. Not that its the carrots fault, of course.
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well, there's at least one thing we have in common, mankie---vegetarianism...I'd forgotten that about you
I'll still have to kick your ass for busting on my husband the way you do, though
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The kicker is that Mankie is vegetarian as well. I'm surprised he didn't run out and buy some pork chops when he heard we were.
Beef and chicken taste too good for me to be vergetarian solely for the reason of being "hip". It's easy for me not to eat other types of meat...I just don't like the taste.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Yes, nothing like eating something that lies around in its own shit all day and has been fed all kinds of growth hormones to prime it for sale. Not that those things are the poor cow's fault.
so are you guys vegetarians too? thats pretty hip [/b]
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tis a shame i was going to bring everyone back a nice portion of Canadian Bacon.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
tis a shame i was going to bring everyone back a nice portion of Canadian Bacon.
Can you find two thick pieces of bread, slather them with butter, and fry some mushrooms?
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
tis a shame i was going to bring everyone back a nice portion of Canadian Bacon.
Can you find two thick pieces of bread, slather them with butter, and fry some mushrooms? [/b]
thats just sick man
sick
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Originally posted by mankie:
<img src="http://www.oz.net/~moz/images/meatismu.gif" alt=" - " />
This album (http://www.worth1000.com/view.asp?entry=58110&display=photoshop) is much better.
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Originally posted by Celeste:
well, there's at least one thing we have in common, mankie---vegetarianism...I'd forgotten that about you
I'll still have to kick your ass for busting on my husband the way you do, though
Your hubbie gives it too, and deserves the crap he gets on here...it's nice that you're willing to fight his battles for him though, just don't spit in my face please.
Markie....I think the helmet on the Smiths album was acutally, "make love not war" if I'm not mistaken.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] The kicker is that Mankie is vegetarian as well. I'm surprised he didn't run out and buy some pork chops when he heard we were.
I've been vegetarian for years, probably longer than you actually.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
This album[/URL] is much better.
That is a great image...... I had tought about getting the T already. It was certainly the best of the mated albums. If only they had used OJs image and get the logo original......
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
thats just sick man
sick
sick as in good, or sick because I forgot to mention the HP sauce?
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Originally posted by mankie:
I've been vegetarian for years, probably longer than you actually.
You quit eating meat when you left the Royal Navy?
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
sick as in good, or sick because I forgot to mention the HP sauce?
Drop the mushrooms, add the HP and you have yourself a sandwich.
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Christ, I didn't know it was an endurance test. Oh well, I bet I could last longer in bed than you.
Do you eat fish? If so, I would say you're notr really a vegetarian.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] The kicker is that Mankie is vegetarian as well. I'm surprised he didn't run out and buy some pork chops when he heard we were.
I've been vegetarian for years, probably longer than you actually. [/b]
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Celeste:
[qb] Markie....I think the helmet on the Smiths album was acutally, "make love not war" if I'm not mistaken. [/b]
close "make war not love"
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cool site.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Christ, I didn't know it was an endurance test. Oh well, I bet I could last longer in bed than you.
Do you eat fish? If so, I would say you're notr really a vegetarian.
How about prawns, shrimp, lobster and calamari. Those things are not even vertebrates. As such they are the next best thing to eating vegetables.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Christ, I didn't know it was an endurance test. Oh well, I bet I could last longer in bed than you.
Do you eat fish? If so, I would say you're notr really a vegetarian.
I bet you could last longer in bed than me....I'm a little more advneturous than just the bed.
I was responding that because you two self-proclaimed trend-setters are vegetarian I would change my ways, when in actual fact I've not eaten meat for years.
I do eat seafood. Do you eat eggs, cheese yogurt, ice-cream, french-fries from a fast food place wear leather in any form, have leather in seats in your car, drink milk, put half and half in your coffee?
"Vegetarian" seems to have become the generic word for someone who doesn't eat meat of some sort. I think you're thinking of "Vegan", which I'm not and have never pretended to be. How about you?
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I'm quite sure I never called myself a trend-setter, and neither has Celeste. My musical snobbishness may have implied such, but if I am any kind of trend-setter, it's by accident rather than by planning. Hell, I listen to George Jones and Loretta Lynn, and have for years. How trendy is that? I tend not to listen to obscure indie artists, though reasing this board has opened my mind up to more of that stuff than I previously had been.
I don't eat seafood. Don't like the taste.Plues some of it's not that healthy. Do eat eggs, cheese yogurt, ice-cream and milk. Don't drink coffee so no half and half. Do wear leather shoes and jackets, no leather in my car.
My vegetarianism evolved from a desire to eat a heathier diet, as well as the fact that producing meat uses up way too much of the earth's resources. Those things much more so than sympathy for animals. Of course if my actions save the lives of an animal, well then that's a bonus.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Christ, I didn't know it was an endurance test. Oh well, I bet I could last longer in bed than you.
Do you eat fish? If so, I would say you're notr really a vegetarian.
I bet you could last longer in bed than me....I'm a little more advneturous than just the bed.
I was responding that because you two self-proclaimed trend-setters are vegetarian I would change my ways, when in actual fact I've not eaten meat for years.
I do eat seafood. Do you eat eggs, cheese yogurt, ice-cream, french-fries from a fast food place wear leather in any form, have leather in seats in your car, drink milk, put half and half in your coffee?
"Vegetarian" seems to have become th e generic word for someone who doesn't eat meat of some sort. I think you're thinking of "Vegan", which I'm not and have never pretended to be. How about you? [/b]
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Originally posted by mankie:
"Vegetarian" seems to have become the generic word for someone who doesn't eat meat of some sort. I think you're thinking of "Vegan", which I'm not and have never pretended to be. How about you?
Vegetarian means you don't eat meat, seafood included. I did that for a while, just ate seafood but not chicken, beef or pork...I considered myself a "pesca-vegetarian"...
Vegan means you don't eat cheese, eggs, etc. anything that comes from animals...they don't eat honey, either...and they're really hard-core about not having leather stuff...
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'm quite sure I never called myself a trend-setter, and neither has Celeste.
I believe I did start a little Daytona 500 trend, though ;) But, then, who could resist such an engaging game of skill?
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Originally posted by Celeste:
Originally posted by mankie:
"Vegetarian" seems to have become the generic word for someone who doesn't eat meat of some sort. I think you're thinking of "Vegan", which I'm not and have never pretended to be. How about you?
Vegetarian means you don't eat meat, seafood included. I did that for a while, just ate seafood but not chicken, beef or pork...I considered myself a "pesca-vegetarian"...
Vegan means you don't eat cheese, eggs, etc. anything that comes from animals...they don't eat honey, either...and they're really hard-core about not having leather stuff... [/b]
I know, that's exactly what I said. The point I was making was that "vegetarian" is loosely used for someone who doesn't eat some type of meat. For example, I've heard people call themselves vegetarian when they don't eat red meat but will eat chicken. If it ever comes up in conversation and I'm asked if I'm vegetarian I will almost always say, "No, I just don't eat meat of any kind", but sometimes if I don't want to get into it I just say "yes" and change the subject.
Anyway, are you vegan or what?
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OK
That's not exactly what you said. You implied that is was correct to use the term "vegetarian" when one does eat fish, and it really isn't.
No, I'm not vegan. I tried from time to time and I just can't do it.
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I like hamburgers, Wilco, and The Smiths. What do I do now?
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It's OK, Thirsty. Being conflicted is part of living in the modern world.
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Originally posted by Celeste:
OK
That's not exactly what you said. You implied that is was correct to use the term "vegetarian" when one does eat fish, and it really isn't.
Sorry, I meant to type, "that's exactly what I meant"
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Yeh really. Sometimes when I listen to The Smiths, I laugh and/or smile. I feel like such a sell out.
Originally posted by Celeste:
It's OK, Thirsty. Being conflicted is part of living in the modern world.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
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I think punks purposely strategically rip their clothes to look cool. I don't think Tweedy gives a rats ass about what he looks like, which is a good quality for a man to have, in my estimation.
Most men try to look respectable and not like a homeless loser, I think they call it "self respect" or something like that.
*pssst* grunge is dead rhett...and was never really that cool in the first place.
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metrosexual
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
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I think punks purposely strategically rip their clothes to look cool. I don't think Tweedy gives a rats ass about what he looks like, which is a good quality for a man to have, in my estimation.
Most men try to look respectable and not like a homeless loser, I think they call it "self respect" or something like that.
*pssst* grunge is dead rhett...and was never really that cool in the first place. [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB]
metrosexual
maybe, but you won't catch me hugging my mates everytime I bump into them.
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Is it because you're too busy kissing them on the cheek? You cheeky monkey, you.
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I know I'm SO behind in this thread, but I am losing my shit over the Feargal Sharkey reference. In college, years and years ago, my nut job anglophile roommate *loved* him. I can picture his overly angled face right now. TOO great. I love this board, y'all!
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Yes, but you like Feargal Sharkey. Case closed.
How many Wilco albums have you listened to in their entirety, and how many shows have you been to? If you have been to a show, as well as listend to all six of their albums, and still hate them, well that's fine...
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Celeste:
Sorry! I'm actually busy WORKING, but, felt I had to defend one of the greatest bands...point taken...but still, I could see how one might be indifferent to Wilco but to actively dislike them? I can't belive it :o
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I HATE WILCO..THEY ARE TOTAL SHITE! [/b]
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Japan and David Sylvian cross over all boundaries and bring folks together.... Okay, so almost everyone I know has never heard of either, but that is amazing music. Simply amazing.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Yank:
Agreed Mankie. David Sylvain has a great voice and "Ghost" is one of the best singles of the 80's.
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....easy there big fella, you've agreed with mankie regarding music, in public no less! [/b]
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sonick, I get confused all the time. Especially when folks go and change their display name again and again. Though I'm now recognizing a few of those folks who've posted like 4000 or more times.
FYI, I'm not into Wilco, but I don't think that means they suck by any means. Though Rhett, it makes sense that I didn't know Whiskeytown 5 years ago, 'cuz they're not really my cup of tea. Don't think it makes me ignorant to be unfamiliar with music I'm not that into anyway.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
this messageboard gets a little confusing, since i somehow figured more people knew each other than possibly do.
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
I like hamburgers, Wilco, and The Smiths. What do I do now?
Uh oh. You can hang out with me, but can we please please please listen to the Smiths instead of Wilco?
Okay, I've just gotten through this whole thread. WAY too funny.
And Markie, do you really like Cursive? I got the latest album and I can't stand it -- it's the guy's voice, along with the music or something. I just listened to it once, in the car with a friend who thought it was pretty bad to. i might try it again, but I think that one's a no go.
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Originally posted by bags:
And Markie, do you really like Cursive?
You must not have been reading very closely, I like Cursive, not Markie, in fact, Markie hates Cursive.
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Originally posted by bags:
[Uh oh. You can hang out with me, but can we please please please listen to the Smiths instead of Wilco?
can i come too? i love the smiths. :)
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by bags:
And Markie, do you really like Cursive?
You must not have been reading very closely, I like Cursive, not Markie, in fact, Markie hates Cursive. [/b]
I do hate cursive, actually burst an bloom was almost OK. Give me Sparta anyday.
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Originally posted by paige:
Originally posted by bags:
[Uh oh. You can hang out with me, but can we please please please listen to the Smiths instead of Wilco?
can i come too? i love the smiths. :) [/b]
There'll be no Smiths party without the mank in attendance. (that should kill it for everyone)
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(1) I say ALL Smiths fan (who are willing to acknowledge so) should be invited;
(2) Mank, I haven't been around long enough for you to piss me off, how bad can it be?!?
:) [/b][/quote]There'll be no Smiths party without the mank in attendance. (that should kill it for everyone) [/b][/quote]
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Originally posted by bags:
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(2) Mank, I haven't been around long enough for you to piss me off, how bad can it be?!?
:(
Actually, I'm not nearly as obnoxious in person. (I don't think so anyway)
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I am flabbergasted the Phil Collins is not on this list.
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by bags:
And Markie, do you really like Cursive?
You must not have been reading very closely, I like Cursive, not Markie, in fact, Markie hates Cursive. [/b]
I do hate cursive, actually burst an bloom was almost OK. Give me Sparta anyday. [/b]
And Markie's fine taste in music shines through yet again. ;)
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Originally posted by bags:
(2) Mank, I haven't been around long enough for you to piss me off, how bad can it be?!?
The Mankster is cool! :cool:
You just need to have a keen understanding of the true Manc sensibilities; otherwise, you are bound to read him wrong.
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Originally posted by bags:
(2) Mank, I haven't been around long enough for you to piss me off, how bad can it be?!?
The Mankster is cool! :)
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Hey, so far so good. Notice he gets into a lot of flame wars (though the wars on this board are *usually* not quite as insiped as others), but I find myself just laughing at the whole damn thing.
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Jaguär:
Originally posted by bags:
(2) Mank, I haven't been around long enough for you to piss me off, how bad can it be?!?
The Mankster is cool! :) [/b]
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This is a list not to be taken seriously! Here are some bands taken off the list:
The Doors
Paul Oakenfold
Live
Arrested Development
Primus
Here are some bands that should be on this list:
Hole: Courtney Love is one of the most overrated women in rock. She would never been where she was without one Kurt Cobain.
CrazyTown: Other than the hit Butterfly, their 2 albums contained generic rap-rock crap.
Kelly Osbourne: If you thought Ozzy's attempt at the national anthem was bad, just listen to what his daughter put out.
Methods Of Mayhem: Rap-rock and nu-metal at it worst.
H.W.A: Eazy's E's terrible attempt at creating a female version of NWA
Milli Vanilli: The sad story of 2 guys who wanted to be famous, but they'll be the butt of all jokes forever.
Taco: Putting Off The Hits!
Kris Kross: When more people know for forgettable fashion trend than your music, you're in trouble.
Another Bad Creation: poor man's New Edition
Billy Ray Cyrus: If there's a reason I hate country, this was the artist.
Jeremy Jordan: Wrong kind of singer
Ace Of Base: The Worst from Sweden
Now, please explain to me why they aren't on this list.