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Title: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: yinzer on July 19, 2006, 08:00:00 am
clap your hands and say yeah.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: on July 19, 2006, 08:39:00 am
Bloc Rebel Arctic Cuties
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: ggw on July 19, 2006, 09:29:00 am
Fiery Furnaces
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on July 19, 2006, 09:38:00 am
most of them
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: on July 19, 2006, 09:40:00 am
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
  most of them
I second that.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: chaz on July 19, 2006, 09:41:00 am
Yeah really way to many to mention.  So fare this decade I've pretty much discovered that I hate most new music,
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: tinygee on July 19, 2006, 09:51:00 am
without a doubt the arctic monkeys
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: sonickteam2 on July 19, 2006, 09:56:00 am
the strokes.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 19, 2006, 10:14:00 am
I miss Elliott Smith. In the grand scheme of things, I just don't find that a lot of these bands have mastered playing their instruments well. Maybe too many rely on computers or Pro-Tools to write songs. When I heard Bright Eyes compared to Elliott Smith I bought one of his CDs and there wasn't even a comparison there. Elliott's mid-to-later work may rip off the Beatles (George Harrison esp.) but it's still genius.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: serickson98 on July 19, 2006, 10:25:00 am
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Originally posted by yinzer:
  clap your hands and say yeah.
Unlistenable shite.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: andyrichter on July 19, 2006, 11:05:00 am
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Originally posted by bootsycollins:
   
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Originally posted by yinzer:
  clap your hands and say yeah.
Unlistenable shite. [/b]
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: Sage 703 on July 19, 2006, 11:54:00 am
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Originally posted by bootsycollins:
   
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Originally posted by yinzer:
  clap your hands and say yeah.
Unlistenable shite. [/b]
amen.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 19, 2006, 12:12:00 pm
The thing about that infamous CYHSY review is a good chuck of it is the author blathering on about how this band got so much attention for their self released CD, without press releases, PR, etc... How is so "refreshing" to a hear a band with out the preceeding hype build up.  Not really sure how that garners them a 9.0 as there a plenty of bands out there with remarkable albums without PR folks...  You might as well call CYHSY the O.A.R. of indie rock
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: vansmack on July 19, 2006, 12:20:00 pm
Bitter old Men
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: ggw on July 19, 2006, 01:00:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Bitter old Men
I loved their last album.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: BookerT on July 19, 2006, 01:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Bitter old Men
I loved their last album. [/b]
meh, it was ok.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: vansmack on July 19, 2006, 01:07:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Bitter old Men
I loved their last album. [/b]
Their cover of Jethro Tull's "Too Old to Rock and Roll, Too Young to Die" was a brilliant stripped down version with their own signature to it.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: eltee on July 19, 2006, 02:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by bearman:
  I miss Elliott Smith. In the grand scheme of things, I just don't find that a lot of these bands have mastered playing their instruments well. Maybe too many rely on computers or Pro-Tools to write songs. When I heard Bright Eyes compared to Elliott Smith I bought one of his CDs and there wasn't even a comparison there. Elliott's mid-to-later work may rip off the Beatles (George Harrison esp.) but it's still genius.
Hell yes. Many pull from Elliott, but not too many realize it.
 
 I would have voted Clap Yer Paws too.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: chokeychicken on July 19, 2006, 03:11:00 pm
no questions.
 
 arctic monkeys.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: ggw on July 19, 2006, 03:22:00 pm
I bet if you polled the general population, less than 2% would have heard of either Clap Your Hands And Say Yeah or the Arctic Monkeys.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: on July 19, 2006, 03:49:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  I bet if you polled the general population, less than 2% would have heard of either Clap Your Hands And Say Yeah or the Arctic Monkeys.
0ne fifth of the general public speak Mandarin.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: Dr. Anton Phibes on July 19, 2006, 06:29:00 pm
Gotta say "Death Cab for Seth Cohen".......or damn near any other band featured on the O.C. soundtrack......last I heard,Rooney was opening for........Kelly Clarkson??!
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: vansmack on July 19, 2006, 06:44:00 pm
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Originally posted by Dr. Jonas Sulk:
  Gotta say "Death Cab for Seth Cohen".......or damn near any other band featured on the O.C. soundtrack......last I heard,Rooney was opening for........Kelly Clarkson??!
Ah, the backlash.  I wonder what would happen if I compared The Artists of the OC Soundtracks with the 9:30 Group on Last.Fm....
 
 
 South
 Joseph Arthur
 Spoon
 Jet
 The 88
 Doves
 Turin Brakes
 The Dandy Warhols
 Finley Quaye & William Orbit
 Alexi Murdoch
 Eels
 Super Furry Animals
 The Killers
 Death Cab for Cutie
 Interpol
 Patrick Park
 Dios Malos
 Nada Surf
 The Thrills
 The Walkmen
 The Perishers
 Jonathan Rice
 Beulah
 Keane
 Jem
 The Album Leaf
 The Raveonettes
 Jimmy Eat World
 Low
 Rooney
 Ben Kweller
 The Long Winters
 Eels
 Leona Naess
 Ron Sexsmith
 The Futureheads
 Pinback
 A.C. Newman
 Sufjan Stevens
 Flunk
 Beck
 Modest Mouse
 Aqueduct
 The Reindeer Section
 Bell X1
 Matt Pond PA
 Subways
 Kasabian
 Shout Out Louds  
 LCD Soundsystem
 Rogue Wave
 Youth Group
 Of Montreal
 Gorillaz
 Kaiser Chiefs
 Stars
 Phantom Planet
 Imogen Heap
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: Barcelona on July 19, 2006, 07:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by yinzer:
  clap your hands and say yeah.
the album is good, very decent. Their live performance is another issue.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: vansmack on July 19, 2006, 07:06:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Ah, the backlash.  I wonder what would happen if I compared The Artists of the OC Soundtracks with the 9:30 Group on Last.Fm....
 
Wonder no more....
 
 2 Death Cab for Cutie
 8 The Futureheads
 8 Spoon
 8 Interpol
 16 Gorillaz
 22 Modest Mouse
 22 Beulah
 39 The Dandy Warhols
 39 Sufjan Stevens
 39 Nada Surf
 39 LCD Soundsystem
 57 The Killers
 57 Kaiser Chiefs
 57 Beck
 76 Stars
 76 of Montreal
 76 Keane
 76 Kasabian
 76 Doves
 76 A.C. Newman
 102 The Walkmen
 102 Shout Out Louds  
 102 Rogue Wave
 102 Low
 102 Imogen Heap
 102 Ben Kweller
 157 The Thrills
 157 Super Furry Animals
 157 Subways
 157 Eels
 214 The Album Leaf
 214 South
 214 Rooney
 214 Phantom Planet
 214 Jimmy Eat World
 351 Ron Sexsmith
 351 Pinback
 
 And that's just for last week.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: ggw on July 19, 2006, 07:25:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Ah, the backlash.  I wonder what would happen if I compared The Artists of the OC Soundtracks with the 9:30 Group on Last.Fm....
 
Wonder no more....
 
 2 Death Cab for Cutie
 [/b]
That number is skewed by the teenage girls like Betty, Grace, and Brennser.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: kookiemnstr8 on July 19, 2006, 07:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   
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Originally posted by vansmack:
     
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Ah, the backlash.  I wonder what would happen if I compared The Artists of the OC Soundtracks with the 9:30 Group on Last.Fm....
 
Wonder no more....
 
 2 Death Cab for Cutie
 [/b]
That number is skewed by the teenage girls like Betty, Grace, and Brennser. [/b]
I would like to point out that Death Cab isn't even in my top fifteen.  And really, I hardly think they're extremely overrated, they have released some very solid albums.
 
 My vote is for the ARctic Monkeys.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: kookiemnstr8 on July 19, 2006, 07:46:00 pm
I'm also adding a vote for the Strokes.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: serickson98 on July 19, 2006, 09:27:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
   
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Originally posted by yinzer:
  clap your hands and say yeah.
the album is good, very decent. Their live performance is another issue. [/b]
I can't even make it through one of their sound clips.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 19, 2006, 09:54:00 pm
First thought I had was that Talking Heads did it much better 25 years ago. I'd much rather listen to "Fear of Music" any day.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: PigIron on July 20, 2006, 12:47:00 am
Strokes, Bloc Party, and Clap Your Hands.  Or any of these bands that you can't distinguish from the late-70's-early-80's bands they mimic embarrassingly well.  Its just gotten old.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 20, 2006, 05:38:00 am
I contribute so little to the 9:30 last.fm charts... guess that makes me out of step  :)
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: you be betty on July 20, 2006, 07:58:00 am
That must make our Callat703 an avid teenage girl, too   :)  
 
 1) What makes you say that Death Cab is overrated?  I think for many years, they were actually quite underrated.
 
 2) How does opening for Kelly Clarkson make you overrated?  Or, I'll state this differently.  How does being stuck on a tour by your overbearing label convert to critical acclaim?
 
 
 And Bright Eyes is my overrated pick.  Hands down.  The guy can write a good song and yeah he was/is young, but he's not Jesus.  Bob Dylan was young too...
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: bellenseb on July 20, 2006, 10:22:00 am
Sufjan Stevens by a mile, if you're measuring "overrated" by critical acclaim.
 
 If you're measuring by popular acclaim, Keane, Snow Patrol.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: throatneedle on July 20, 2006, 10:31:00 am
CYHSY
 Surfjan Stevens
 Bloc Party
 Mars Volta
 Flaming Lips
 Bright Eyes
 Mountain Goats
 Arctic Monkeys
 Dandy Warhols
 New Pornographers
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: andyrichter on July 20, 2006, 11:38:00 am
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Originally posted by throatneedle:
  CYHSY
 Surfjan Stevens
 Bloc Party
 Mars Volta
 Flaming Lips
 Bright Eyes
 Mountain Goats
 Arctic Monkeys
 Dandy Warhols
 New Pornographers
 Mogwai
 Broken Social Scene
 Belle and Sebastian
 
Agreed!   ;)
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: Big KC on July 20, 2006, 12:18:00 pm
the Rolling Stones
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 20, 2006, 12:29:00 pm
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
  Sufjan Stevens
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Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 20, 2006, 12:38:00 pm
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Originally posted by andyrichter:
 Mars Volta -- they're "indie"?
 Flaming Lips -- formed 1983
 Bright Eyes -- 90s
 Mountain Goats -- 90s band
 Dandy Warhols -- formed 1992
 Mogwai -- formed 1996
 Belle and Sebastian -- formed 1995
 
you all are a bunch of whiny vaginas ... and i'll stand up for CYHSY: it's a really good album, they just flew too high too soon
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: Santos L. Halper on July 20, 2006, 12:57:00 pm
Why do you need new bands? Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974. It's a scientific fact.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: andyrichter on July 20, 2006, 01:38:00 pm
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Originally posted by Santos L. Halper:
  Why do you need new bands? Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974. It's a scientific fact.
Yea but I forgot, this thread is titled bands of the new millenium/decade so the guy has a point.  
 
 As for Mars Volta, they're not part of any defined genre I'm aware of as they seem to be on a planet of their own, so yea, I'd absolutely file them under the blanket "indie" term.  That and they always seem to be playing Coachella, Bonarro or Lollapalooza.    ;)
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: bellenseb on July 20, 2006, 01:53:00 pm
Despite the hype, I found Margot and the Nuclear So & Sos to be terrible post-emo garbage.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: Mobius on July 20, 2006, 05:22:00 pm
For me, its the Shins.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: ratioci nation on July 20, 2006, 06:00:00 pm
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
  Despite the hype, I found Margot and the Nuclear So & Sos to be terrible post-emo garbage.
where is the hype on them? I must have eliminated sources of hype from my life because the only person I have heard they were good from is Brennser, he is a hype machine
 
 and I actually do like them, and have disliked most of the stuff being discussed on the board this year
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: you be betty on July 20, 2006, 06:40:00 pm
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
   
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
  Despite the hype, I found Margot and the Nuclear So & Sos to be terrible post-emo garbage.
where is the hype on them? I must have eliminated sources of hype from my life because the only person I have heard they were good from is Brennser, he is a hype machine
 
 and I actually do like them, and have disliked most of the stuff being discussed on the board this year [/b]
i'd have to agree...zero hype here
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 20, 2006, 06:51:00 pm
i'm hyping them!
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: bellenseb on July 20, 2006, 07:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
   
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
  Despite the hype, I found Margot and the Nuclear So & Sos to be terrible post-emo garbage.
where is the hype on them?  [/b]
All Music said "What The Dust of Retreat does for indie rock in 2006 is almost everything Neutral Milk Hotel wanted to do in 1998 with In the Aeroplane Over the Sea." I mean, give me a break.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on July 20, 2006, 09:37:00 pm
No, they're actually one of the few good indie bands.
 
 
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Originally posted by Mobius:
  For me, its the Shins.
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: ratioci nation on July 21, 2006, 12:45:00 am
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
 All Music said "What The Dust of Retreat does for indie rock in 2006 is almost everything Neutral Milk Hotel wanted to do in 1998 with In the Aeroplane Over the Sea." I mean, give me a break.
did you ever consider maybe Aeroplane Over the Sea is one of the most overhyped records of all time? I mean I loved that album, but its held up as the indie holy grail far too often
 
 I hardly consider an allmusic review as being overhyped, I dont think many people read those, I usually just go there for basic biographical information or to see the discography
 
 but I also understand a negative association with a band based on something like that
 
 I knew very little about Margot before listening to them, and probably only like half the album, but the last couple of years of music that seems to be about as good as it gets for me, at least there is some hope, I heard a clip of a High Strung song on Mtv the other day, dont even know what show it was on
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 21, 2006, 01:38:00 am
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
 I knew very little about Margot before listening to them, and probably only like half the album, but the last couple of years of music that seems to be about as good as it gets for me, at least there is some hope, I heard a clip of a High Strung song on Mtv the other day, dont even know what show it was on
come on now ... you're really saying there hasn't been an album (or a few) in the last couple of years that you didn't like front to back?
Title: Re: what is the most overrated "indie" band of the
Post by: ratioci nation on July 21, 2006, 06:30:00 am
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
 come on now ... you're really saying there hasn't been an album (or a few) in the last couple of years that you didn't like front to back?
sure there have been a few, but not anywhere near as many as a few years ago
 
 in 2005 and 2006 off the top of my head, albums good all the way through:
 The Oranges Band - The World and Everything In It
 Deadboy and the elephantmen
 The HIgh Strung - Moxie Bravo
 Go Betweens - Oceans Apart
 The National - Alligator