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Title: Writers Wanted
Post by: redsock on August 18, 2004, 02:22:00 pm
You can never have enough good writers. And BigYawn needs more of them. If you have an interest in writing about music, specifically CD reviews -- with an open opportunity for more than that, and feel you can coherently get your thoughts across in words, we might have a position for you. We would require a minimum of 3 reviews a month. Please check out our  site (http://www.bigyawn.net), excuse the summer cobwebs, and if you're interested, or have any questions, feel free to contact me at eric@bigyawn.net.
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: ggw on August 18, 2004, 02:30:00 pm
Do you pay by the piece or by the word?
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: mankie on August 18, 2004, 03:15:00 pm
When would you like me to start?
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 18, 2004, 03:29:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
  When would you like me to start?
mankie could write a column, "the grumpy old man hates new cds"
 
   maybe not so informative, but probably highly entertaining!
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 18, 2004, 03:31:00 pm
...probably more interesting reading than a review giving 8.5 zzzzz's to a band whose members will be working in a guitar shop within 5 years.
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: Random Citizen on August 18, 2004, 03:32:00 pm
Redsock, you've got mail.
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: walkman on August 18, 2004, 03:44:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  ...probably more interesting reading than a review giving 8.5 zzzzz's to a band whose members will be working in a guitar shop within 5 years.
what does that even mean?  lack of commerical success should = a low rating?
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: mankie on August 18, 2004, 03:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
  When would you like me to start?
mankie could write a column, "the grumpy old man hates new cds"
 
   maybe not so informative, but probably highly entertaining! [/b]
Put your money were your mouth is and give me a cd to review.
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: on August 18, 2004, 03:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
   
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
  When would you like me to start?
mankie could write a column, "the grumpy old man hates new cds"
 
   maybe not so informative, but probably highly entertaining! [/b]
Put your money were your mouth is and give me a cd to review. [/b]
Yes, but can you do "The Lynndie" (http://badgas.co.uk/lynndie/)?
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 18, 2004, 03:55:00 pm
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
   
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
  When would you like me to start?
mankie could write a column, "the grumpy old man hates new cds"
 
   maybe not so informative, but probably highly entertaining! [/b]
Put your money were your mouth is and give me a cd to review. [/b]
the grumpy reviewer!!! i am all for it.
 
  i have lots man, give me or redsock your address
 
 we'll let you at the new Interpol CD, I'm sure you'll LOVE that!
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 18, 2004, 04:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  ...probably more interesting reading than a review giving 8.5 zzzzz's to a band whose members will be working in a guitar shop within 5 years.
who? the drive-by truckers or old 97's?
 anyhow, i'd be willing to give it a whirl.
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: grotty on August 18, 2004, 04:43:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
   a band whose members will be working in a guitar shop within 5 years.
who? the drive-by truckers or old 97's?
  [/b]
That's not really a fair statement - even though I realize you just couldn't restrain yourself from attacking Rhett.
 
 Any or all of these are just as likely to be seen in the guitar shop:
 
 "les savy fav
 sonic youth
 blonde redhead
 walkmen
 modest mouse
 gbv"
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: mankie on August 18, 2004, 04:50:00 pm
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That's not really a fair statement - even though I realize you just couldn't restrain yourself from attacking Rhett.
 
 Any or all of these are just as likely to be seen in the guitar shop:
 
 "les savy fav
 sonic youth
 blonde redhead
 walkmen
 modest mouse
 gbv" [/QB]
I doubt gbv, because I would imagine any guitar shop would want someone with guitar experience working in their establishment.
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: ggw on August 18, 2004, 05:20:00 pm
With their photogenic lead singer and radio-friendly hooks, the Old 97's were one of alt-country's best hopes to make the big time. But their best-selling album, 1999's Fight Songs, sold only 94,000 copies in the United States â?? a failure by major-label standards. (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007765)
 
 
 
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Originally posted by walkie hearts you all:
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  ...probably more interesting reading than a review giving 8.5 zzzzz's to a band whose members will be working in a guitar shop within 5 years.
what does that even mean?  lack of commerical success should = a low rating? [/b]
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 18, 2004, 10:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by grotty:
   
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
     
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
   a band whose members will be working in a guitar shop within 5 years.
who? the drive-by truckers or old 97's?
  [/b]
That's not really a fair statement - even though I realize you just couldn't restrain yourself from attacking Rhett.
 
 Any or all of these are just as likely to be seen in the guitar shop:
 
 "les savy fav
 sonic youth
 blonde redhead
 walkmen
 modest mouse
 gbv" [/b]
the point was bands i like could be covered by that statement, as well as bands he likes. i think that's fair. and bob plays guitar, drums and bass, mank. he just can't remember the words and cords to 60 songs a night while drunk
 
 and i didn't mean to imply that the dbt or old 97s have never put out a 8.5 worthy disc. in fact, i like both. dbt more
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 19, 2004, 09:06:00 am
So would you want people to send a sample review then?
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: redsock on August 19, 2004, 10:12:00 am
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Originally posted by elj:
  So would you want people to send a sample review then?
mmm...you can, or just write me and tell me more about your musical tastes and why you want to be a writer. eric@bigyawn.net
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 19, 2004, 10:32:00 am
The Drive by Truckers have put out 6 albums in 6+ years, and seem to be doing fine. Old 97's have put out 7 albums in 10 years, and also seem to have a core audience. I think both of these were poor examples for you to choose.
 
 My point is that most indie bands don't have staying power. TV on the Radio, the Killers, the Kills, the Thrills, the Stills...how many of these bands are going to be around 5 years from now? Indie bands tend to have a short shelf life and a fickle fanbase always searching for something new. For every Bob Pollard or Thirsty Moore who is able to keep it going, there are 50 artists who aren't.
 
 At least the alt-country fanbase tends to be loyal. People like Steve Earle, EmmyLou Harris Lucinda Williams, Jimmie Dale Gilmore, etc. all have careers that span 20+ years. Bands like Old 97's will always have their fanbase. As Steve Earle says, "I know I can put out any kind of record, and still sell 100,000 copies."
 
 Not saying what is good and bad, but I think the conservative nature of the alt-country market lends itself to a longer shelf-life for artists than does the fickle, need something new nature of the indie market.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  ...probably more interesting reading than a review giving 8.5 zzzzz's to a band whose members will be working in a guitar shop within 5 years.
who? the drive-by truckers or old 97's?
 anyhow, i'd be willing to give it a whirl. [/b]
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: bearman🐻 on August 19, 2004, 10:41:00 am
So who thought Radiohead would be around after "Creep"? One just never knows. Just because an indie band might not have staying power doesn't mean they won't. You'll still be hearing the White Stripes in 5 years from now. Not sure the Strokes will last that long, but it's hard to predict.
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: nkotb on August 19, 2004, 10:42:00 am
But does a limited self-life take away from the impact of one great album?  I'm not trying to defend or detract from any of the bands you've mentioned; just trying to point out a different side.  Just because their critical praise runs out or the financial backing can't support them or they just run out of ideas should detract from the fact that for one album they were brilliant.
 
 
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  My point is that most indie bands don't have staying power. TV on the Radio, the Killers, the Kills, the Thrills, the Stills...how many of these bands are going to be around 5 years from now? Indie bands tend to have a short shelf life and a fickle fanbase always searching for something new. For every Bob Pollard or Thirsty Moore who is able to keep it going, there are 50 artists who aren't.
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 19, 2004, 10:56:00 am
well, it seems odd to split hairs between alt-country and indie. as far as staying power/commercial appeal goes
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 19, 2004, 11:02:00 am
I guess people have different ideas about what they want from their music and musicians.
 
 
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Originally posted by nkotbie:
  But does a limited self-life take away from the impact of one great album?  I'm not trying to defend or detract from any of the bands you've mentioned; just trying to point out a different side.  Just because their critical praise runs out or the financial backing can't support them or they just run out of ideas should detract from the fact that for one album they were brilliant.
 
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  My point is that most indie bands don't have staying power. TV on the Radio, the Killers, the Kills, the Thrills, the Stills...how many of these bands are going to be around 5 years from now? Indie bands tend to have a short shelf life and a fickle fanbase always searching for something new. For every Bob Pollard or Thirsty Moore who is able to keep it going, there are 50 artists who aren't.
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Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: on August 19, 2004, 11:02:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  well, it seems odd to split hairs  
What if it's a long pube?
Title: Re: Writers Wanted
Post by: ggw on August 19, 2004, 11:36:00 am
See the article I posted yesterday.  The Old 97s haven't sold 100k of any of their album.
 
 
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 Bands like Old 97's will always have their fanbase. As Steve Earle says, "I know I can put out any kind of record, and still sell 100,000 copies."