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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: on August 14, 2003, 11:16:00 am
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Ayn Rand's "The Fountainhead". I'm about halfway into it right now and am really enjoying the story so far. Especially after reading all of the architecture arguments on this board.
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
Ayn Rand's "The Fountainhead". I'm about halfway into it right now and am really enjoying the story so far. Especially after reading all of the architecture arguments on this board.
I always knew there was an objectivist in you, struggling to get out.
Self-interest and capitalism rule!
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Recently finished the Fountainhead. Rockin' book, makes me wish to be an architect.
Just finished "Lullaby" by Chuck Palahniuk, interesting book. Fun read.
Just started in on "Metamagical Themas" by Douglas Hofstadter.
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Mainly, I'm looking at Howard Roark and wondering how a character can be so sincere, but so distant. That Keating kid's a total punk. I haven't completely read into what Rand is getting at. It would be interesting to hear some ideas though.
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Thanks to Anton and Lulu, just read
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just starting
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Well I leave all the remedial reading for Bob Pollard.
I just read Arther Koestler, thieves in the night. I great book set in the 1930's about the situation between the jews and arabs and the formation of the jewish settlements. It made me realise that it was an unwinable situation and the British really fucked it up.
I didnt know that so many jewish ships containing refugees were rejected by so many countries either. If I were Jewish I would probably have a massive chip on my shoulder over that.
Oh and I read Balzac, Pere Goriot. A really fine book surprisingly fast paced and easy to read. Its a great story. I kept meaning to check if anyone had made it into a film.
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
Mainly, I'm looking at Howard Roark and wondering how a character can be so sincere, but so distant. That Keating kid's a total punk. I haven't completely read into what Rand is getting at. It would be interesting to hear some ideas though.
It clears up as the book progresses. It is odd how the sections are named for different players. When I read it I found the book to be very timeless, you could imagine it taking place today, the future, the past. Not many references to the year (1920's) in the book and it doesn't get too far into the things that would seem anachronistic now.
At the end of my copy it has her notes about the characters and how she wants them to be viewed.
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Have read both of those, both good reads.
Though the second half of Jihad tends to start dragging...
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
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Jihad is a good one...it got a little repetitive in theme in some parts, but overall, enlightening and engaging!
Currenlty reading Seabiscuit (I know, mass-media, bandwagonesque, but it's a good book, damnit!) also Posessing the Secret of Joy by Alice Walker and How Proust Can Change Your Life
Need to return to Markie Tom Wolf's A Man in Full...finished a few weeks ago after dawdling...very entertaining read!
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also reading this, fascinating, uh, really
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Recently finished Paul Auster's "New York Trilogy," the first story of which was masterful. Also just completed Andrei Bely's classic "St. Petersburg" and am working on a history of the Wars of the Roses since I know jack about the English monarchy.
I was really suckered in by Ayn Rand's novels when I first read them, but after a little time I realized her characters were so two-dimensional and her plots were just blatant vehicles for her agenda. BUT, an entertaining read for sure!
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Originally posted by Celeste:
Need to return to Markie Tom Wolf's A Man in Full...finished a few weeks ago after dawdling...very entertaining read!
It is a great read. It would say its one of the best things I have ever read. But everyone seems to read it real slow. I guess its pretty long.
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currently reading "Classic Baseball Stories".
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"Lullaby" by Chuck Palahniuk - not as great as his other novel (my favorite), "Invisible Monsters" but still thought provoking and out-there.
"Lysistrata" by Aristophanes - I always wanted to read this play, and it's funny as hell. It only takes a day to read, even less. There's nothing better than a Greek Battle of the Sexes.
I want to read "Snobbery" - my sister and friends have read it and loved it. However I haven't had time to get my hands on it. Anyone here read it?
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Originally posted by SueAndNotU:
I was really suckered in by Ayn Rand's novels when I first read them, but after a little time I realized her characters were so two-dimensional and her plots were just blatant vehicles for her agenda...
I agree, but after a while don't even find her writing entertaining...it's just too, too blatant...
and Bob Pollard, that book DOES look interesting!
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by Celeste:
Need to return to Markie Tom Wolf's A Man in Full...finished a few weeks ago after dawdling...very entertaining read!
It is a great read. It would say its one of the best things I have ever read. But everyone seems to read it real slow. I guess its pretty long. [/b]
yeah, and I like to read a few things at once...this book was so cool, though, it wove together so many neat little subplots and then had the whole Stoics thing...now I want to read the Stoics
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I want to read "Snobbery" - my sister and friends have read it and loved it. However I haven't had time to get my hands on it. Anyone here read it?
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It is pretty good although a bit long winded. Instead, I would recommend Bobos in Paradise by David Brooks.
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
also reading this, fascinating, uh, really
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that guy on the cover kind of looks like Ice-T
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hmmmmmm
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Originally posted by paige:
that guy on the cover kind of looks like Ice-T
You gotta love a guy who goes from busting a cap in a cop to busting out some XHTML and some punk-ass DOM-based scripts. Yo.
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Martin Amis - London Fields...one of the most well-written books I have ever read. It seems like he spent a day deciding each word.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by paige:
that guy on the cover kind of looks like Ice-T
You gotta love a guy who goes from busting a cap in a cop to busting out some XHTML and some punk-ass DOM-based scripts. Yo. [/b]
holla.
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
Mainly, I'm looking at Howard Roark and wondering how a character can be so sincere, but so distant. That Keating kid's a total punk. I haven't completely read into what Rand is getting at. It would be interesting to hear some ideas though.
I've read this book several times and still don't know exactly what she's getting at (am I stupid?), except this: be yourself, stick to your principles, don't conform. Seems pretty simple (hence the questioning of my interpretation), except her main point seems to be: But it's really, really difficult to do that and remain "selfish" in the modern world. Her definition of selfish is not to not screw everyone else over; it's more like "keep yourself happy instead of worrying about what others think of you and your choices."
Peter Keating is her example of what happens when you're not Howard Roark. Harsh.
Frankly, I know many more Peter Keatings of the world than I do Howard Roarks. I think more people (obviously)are like Keating than Roark. The elitism of this board exemplifies that (diss others when they like music you don't....not YOU specifically thirsty, just most people in general.)
Does anyone know a real life example of Howard Roark?
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Well said, Arlette. I would like to think that there are people as talented/savvy/generous as Howard Roark. Perhaps there are. Unfortunately, the Peter Keating types are the ones that get noticed the most.
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bilge
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Originally posted by Arlette:
Hi Celeste. ;)
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Nico: The End
by James Young
(Wanted to post a pic but haven't found one and just found out that it's out of print.)
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Originally posted by Arlette:
Does anyone know a real life example of Howard Roark?
Chad at the club?
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Originally posted by Arlette:
Hi Celeste. ;) [/b]
Hi Jag (it's not me)
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so i just started reading how to lose friends and alienate people..........so far it's pretty good......
thanks rhett and celeste for the borders card to buy it.......
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bilge rat
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bilge
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Just finished Atonement by Ian McEwan. Pretty amazing stuff.
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Al Franken's new book. Very entertaining. All his stuff is funny. I dont read alot of fiction, but I read Rand's stuff during college and I must say its good. Saw the Jihad book and it looked a bit predictable. Ive read enough news to know that Middle Eastern folks like Western stuff. Is it worth reading?
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Originally posted by walkman:
Just finished Atonement by Ian McEwan. Pretty amazing stuff.
that book was so hard to get through....congratulations on being one of the few i know who has been able to do it! :)
i'm re-reading most of Chuck Palahniuk's novels right now....every fall i have some weird need to read him. Apparently Spike Jonze wants to make his book "Survivor" into a movie.. hmmm
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Originally posted by paige:
"Survivor" into a movie.. hmmm
I cant wait to see the porn disposal area.
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Originally posted by PigIron:
Saw the Jihad book and it looked a bit predictable. Ive read enough news to know that Middle Eastern folks like Western stuff. Is it worth reading?
The Jihad book was okay. But it kind of sucked too. It wasn't strictly about the west-versus-Islam. When it deviated from that train it started to suck.
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Originally posted by paige:
Originally posted by walkman:
Just finished Atonement by Ian McEwan. Pretty amazing stuff.
that book was so hard to get through....congratulations on being one of the few i know who has been able to do it! :) [/b]
Well, shucks! It did take a while, actually. But twas worth it.
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The Beach by Alex Garland
No I haven't seen the movie version starring Leo.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
The Beach by Alex Garland
No I haven't seen the movie version starring Leo.
I read that years ago when it first came out. It's okay. Haven't seen the movie but would like to only for the scenery. Otherwise, not much of a story. I'm sure they took some liberties in the film just to have something actually happen.