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Title: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: redsock on August 14, 2003, 04:00:00 pm
So, i'm curious, for any of you either in bands (not too many) or those of you who have dated folks in bands....how you manage/managed it. My girlfriend is in a local band with her sister and two other guys...and it's tough. We are in love (no awwwww's please), ane are at least thinking about a serious future together. But they practice at least three days/nights a week, plus time spent on writing music, promoting the band, gigs, etc...., plus work and life stuff. I mean, it's not easy, and they are really just getting off the ground -- all things considered. Obviously, you compromise, and sacrifice, especially if you both realize you want to be with the other person. And we are both very happy, I just wished i saw her more. It's kinda tough too, since I am not a musician, to be able to relate to some of the stuff they are working on. I'm kinda jealous of the other folks, cause they can relate to her passion. But I still a super supporter the band, it's her dream you know, so that makes it our dream. Who knows, this band may fizzle, though they are good, but still, it is the now that is hard.
 
 So, any bad or good stories to relate? I'm curious.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: ggw on August 14, 2003, 04:03:00 pm
She's banging the drummer, isn't she?
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: thirsty moore on August 14, 2003, 04:06:00 pm
GGW -- your response made me laugh out loud.
 
 Redsock -- What happens on the road stays on the road.  All jokes aside though, you seem to want to be able to relate to her passion.  Well, you are a fan already.  So why don't you pick up a guitar and practice when she's off at band practice.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: redsock on August 14, 2003, 04:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
  GGW -- your response made me laugh out loud.
 
 Redsock -- What happens on the road stays on the road.  All jokes aside though, you seem to want to be able to relate to her passion.  Well, you are a fan already.  So why don't you pick up a guitar and practice when she's off at band practice.
The one thing i don't need to worry about is sex with bandmates or random fans. for many reason, thats just not gonna happen.
 
 And since we've been together I have been trying to teach myself guitar and I'm taking piano lessons. Mostly for myself, but I'd be lying if I didn't say some of it was to understand her.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: mankie on August 14, 2003, 04:16:00 pm
Regardless of what the hopeless romantics say, love does NOT conquer all, and if you don't share the same passion for the band as she does, sooner or later she's going to meet someone who does, or you're going to meet someone with similar interests to you....If it's meant to be it will be. I wouldn't sit at home while she's at practice though, you need to live your life too.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 14, 2003, 04:26:00 pm
I remember I used to date Courtney Love. Man did her breath stink. She used to go on about how she thought she was Marlon Brando's granddaughter. Man, I just had to bail.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: redsock on August 14, 2003, 04:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
   and if you don't share the same passion for the band as she does, sooner or later she's going to meet someone who does, or you're going to meet someone with similar interests to you....
Well we do both share a huge passion for music. It's just that she can play it, and I can't at the moment. If I hated music, well that's be different. And I wouldn't be posting on this board.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: thirsty moore on August 14, 2003, 04:33:00 pm
Mankie does bring up a good point.  Also, something to notice.  Are you the only one concerned about the fact that both of you aren't seeing that much of each other?
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 14, 2003, 04:35:00 pm
I think it's fine to have differing passions. Though it is better for the person who is less passionate about something to at least be interested in it, and to support their partners passion.
 
    Sounds like you are on the right track. The most important thing is that you are passionate about each other.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: SPARX on August 14, 2003, 04:35:00 pm
Become their manager or roadie.Then you can share EVERYTHING!!!Not always a good idea.Seperate interests can be a good  thing,you don't really want a clone do you?As long as you still share some common passions,you'll be fine.Don't obsess over it,it'll only make it worse.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: ggw on August 14, 2003, 04:37:00 pm
Can you join the band?
 
 Maybe they need a tambourine player.  Or a roadie.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: mankie on August 14, 2003, 04:37:00 pm
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Originally posted by redsock:
 
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Well we do both share a huge passion for music. It's just that she can play it, and I can't at the moment. If I hated music, well that's be different. And I wouldn't be posting on this board. [/b]
I did say "same passion for the band".
 
 If she ends up devoting more and more time to the band at the expense of time with you, I'd say that's your answer.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 14, 2003, 04:39:00 pm
Yes, women who are passionate about their careers suck, don't they?
 
 
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Originally posted by mankie:
   
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Originally posted by redsock:
 
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Well we do both share a huge passion for music. It's just that she can play it, and I can't at the moment. If I hated music, well that's be different. And I wouldn't be posting on this board. [/b]
I did say "same passion for the band".
 
 If she ends up devoting more and more time to the band at the expense of time with you, I'd say that's your answer. [/b]
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: redsock on August 14, 2003, 04:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
  Mankie does bring up a good point.  Also, something to notice.  Are you the only one concerned about the fact that both of you aren't seeing that much of each other?
No, we both talk about it. She knows she's not being a really good girlfriend, and actually seems to know what one is. i'm not stressing over this, nor looking for relationship advice, we're cool...maybe i'm just looking for a success story.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 14, 2003, 04:46:00 pm
The last time I dated a musician, I was 23. The last time I saw her, I walked in on her having a threesome with her ex-boyfriend and his new girlfriend. Pretty much told me that relationship was over.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: SPARX on August 14, 2003, 04:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by redsock:
  []No, we both talk about it. She knows she's not being a really good girlfriend, and actually seems to know what one is. i'm not stressing over this, nor looking for relationship advice, we're cool...maybe i'm just looking for a success story.
John and yoko?
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: ggw on August 14, 2003, 04:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by redsock:
   
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
  Mankie does bring up a good point.  Also, something to notice.  Are you the only one concerned about the fact that both of you aren't seeing that much of each other?
No, we both talk about it. She knows she's not being a really good girlfriend, and actually seems to know what one is. i'm not stressing over this, nor looking for relationship advice, we're cool...maybe i'm just looking for a success story. [/b]
Personally, I don't think the ideal relationship is about two people chasing the same passions.
 
 She does her thing, you do yours.  Giving the other one support while they chase their dreams is far more important, in my book, than being totally in sync.
 
 After all, a couple is still composed of two individuals.  Sometimes the strongest couples are those comprised of two people strong enough to realize that and able to give their partner the room to be an individual.
 
 So she's occupied with her band now?  I don't think that makes her a "bad girlfriend" (I'm sure you don't either).  Support her, encourage her, etc... while doing your own thing, and I'm sure everything will be fine.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: SPARX on August 14, 2003, 04:51:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggw™:
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Personally, I don't think the ideal relationship is about two people chasing the same passions.
 
 She does her thing, you do yours.  Giving the other one support while they chase their dreams is far more important, in my book, than being totally in sync.
 
 After all, a couple is still composed of two individuals.  Sometimes the strongest couples are those comprised of two people strong enough to realize that and able to give their partner the room to be an individual.
 
 So she's occupied with her band now?  I don't think that makes her a "bad girlfriend" (I'm sure you don't either).  Support her, encourage her, etc... while doing your own thing, and I'm sure everything will be fine. [/QB][/QUOTE]                                                                                             I wholeheartedly concurr!!
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: paige on August 14, 2003, 04:52:00 pm
I'm seeing someone who is in a band, and I know what you are saying. It's tough when everyone is sitting around talking about music (the writing aspect, not just what bands they're listening to at the moment) and feeling almost out of place because you can't fully relate. Then comes in the practicing, playing shows, recording, etc etc. My boyfriend's band is very dedicated and all, but because most of the guys are still going to college and working to pay rent, it hasn't consumed their lives entirely - yet.
 
 I don't go to every show, waiting around for him to be free so we can talk, but I support them and help them out in any way possible. But I also have my own life and everything that everyone else has said. It's great that you're trying to learn music yourself, which shows that you are committed to her and want to make an effort. But you're going to have to work at it (both sides, not just one or the other). The truth is, love isn't the only thing that keeps relationships working. If you both try to make time for each other (maybe one night a week make dinner together and just enjoy the time to yourselves, or whatever) and be supportive, understanding, and compromise, then it will all be ok.
 
 I think I wrote too much.
 
  Good luck redsock!!   :)
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: SPARX on August 14, 2003, 04:56:00 pm
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Originally posted by paige:
  . It's great that you're trying to learn music yourself, which shows that you are committed to her and want to make an effort.
Would that mean if she were a hairdresser,eventually he should become a stylist?   :eek:
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: mankie on August 14, 2003, 04:56:00 pm
If you need somebody, call my name
 If you want someone, you can do the same
 If you want to keep something precious
 You got to lock it up and throw away the key
 If you want to hold onto your possession
 Don't even think about me
 
 If you love somebody
 If you love someone
 If you love somebody
 If you love someone, set them free
 
 Set them free
 Set them free
 Set them free
 Set them free
 
 If it's a mirror you want, just look into my eyes
 Or a whipping boy, someone to despise
 Or a prisoner in the dark
 Tied up in chains you just can't see
 Or a beast in a gilded cage
 That's all some people ever want to be
 
 If you love somebody
 If you love someone
 If you love somebody
 If you love someone, set them free
 
 Set them free
 Set them free
 Set them free
 Set them free
 
 You can't control an independent heart
 Can't tear the one you love apart
 Forever conditioned to believe that we can't live
 We can't live here and be happy with less
 So many riches, so many souls
 Everything we see that we want to possess
 
 If  you need somebody, call my name
 If you want someone, you can do the same
 If you want to keep something precious
 You got to lock it up and throw away the key
 If you want to hold onto your possession
 Don't even think about me
 
 If you love somebody
 If you love someone
 If you love somebody
 If you love someone set them free
 
 Set them free
 Set them free
 Set them free
 Set them free
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: paige on August 14, 2003, 04:58:00 pm
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Originally posted by SPARX:
   
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Originally posted by paige:
  . It's great that you're trying to learn music yourself, which shows that you are committed to her and want to make an effort.
Would that mean if she were a hairdresser,eventually he should become a stylist?    :eek:  [/b]
what i meant was it's nice to see a guy make an effort to connect with his girlfriend on a level other than "we both like to watch tv" or something. it's not that easy to learn to play guitar well, or most instruments.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: SPARX on August 14, 2003, 05:01:00 pm
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what i meant was it's nice to see a guy make an effort to connect with his girlfriend on a level other than "we both like to watch tv" or something. it's not that easy to learn to play guitar well, or most instruments. [/QB]
Who says it's easy to get those tints just right?   ;)
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: redsock on August 14, 2003, 05:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by mankie:
 
 Set them free
 Set them free
 Set them free
 Set them free
I've had nightmares about that song, even though i believe what it says.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: Celeste on August 14, 2003, 05:06:00 pm
me and my brother always made up lyrics to songs when we were kids (I'm sure we weren't the only ones) and we used to say "Free, free, sex with me"  to the tune of this song  :o
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: jadetree on August 14, 2003, 05:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by Celeste:
  me and my brother always made up lyrics to songs when we were kids (I'm sure we weren't the only ones) and we used to say "Free, free, sex with me"  to the tune of this song   :o  
you had sex with your brother?
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 14, 2003, 05:18:00 pm
Sting lyrics on the 9:30 chatboard. I didn't think it could get any worse...
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: redsock on August 14, 2003, 05:21:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Sting lyrics on the 9:30 chatboard. I didn't think it could get any worse...
It's all my fault, I should hand in my log-in name...
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: Celeste on August 14, 2003, 05:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
   
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Originally posted by Celeste:
  me and my brother always made up lyrics to songs when we were kids (I'm sure we weren't the only ones) and we used to say "Free, free, sex with me"  to the tune of this song    :o  
you had sex with your brother? [/b]
no, silly, we just used to sing...only the Welsh and Southerners play it like that
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: jadetree on August 14, 2003, 05:26:00 pm
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Originally posted by Celeste:
  no, silly, we just used to sing...only the Welsh and Southerners play it like that
oh, ok, I guess West Virginia is the South
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: Celeste on August 14, 2003, 05:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
   
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Originally posted by Celeste:
  no, silly, we just used to sing...only the Welsh and Southerners play it like that
oh, ok, I guess West Virginia is the South [/b]
to someone who grew up in Chicago, it is...
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: mankie on August 14, 2003, 05:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Sting lyrics on the 9:30 chatboard. I didn't think it could get any worse...
Here's one for Samantha and her stalking ex..........
 
 Every breath you take
 Every move you make
 Every bond you break
 Every step you take
 
 I'll be watching you
 
 Every single day
 Every word you say
 Every game you play
 Every night you stay
 
 I'll be watching you
 
 Oh can't you see
 You belong to me
 How my poor heart aches with every step you take
 
 Every move you make
 Every vow you break
 Every smile you fake
 Every claim you stake
 
 I'll be watching you
 
 Since you've gone I've been lost without a trace
 I dream at night I can only see your face
 I look around but it's you I can't replace
 I feel so cold and I long for your embrace
 I keep crying baby, baby please
 
 Every move you make
 Every vow you break
 Every smile you fake
 Every claim you stake
 
 I'll be watching you
 
   :D
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: jadetree on August 14, 2003, 05:29:00 pm
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Originally posted by Celeste:
  to someone who grew up in Chicago, it is...
That was really for the benefit of Sparx, is St. Louis the South to you then?
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: SPARX on August 14, 2003, 05:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
   
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Originally posted by Celeste:
  no, silly, we just used to sing...only the Welsh and Southerners play it like that
oh, ok, I guess West Virginia is the South [/b]
Hey now!!  :D
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: SPARX on August 14, 2003, 05:33:00 pm
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Originally posted by SPARX:
   
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
   
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Originally posted by Celeste:
  no, silly, we just used to sing...only the Welsh and Southerners play it like that
oh, ok, I guess West Virginia is the South [/b]
Hey now!!   :D  [/b]
I really need to cut down on my emoticon use.it's addictive
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: redsock on August 15, 2003, 10:10:00 am
Hey, I just wanted to thank you all for the kind words and encouragement, and Mankie for the lyrics. I was not super stressing about this, but it was on my mind a little, so getting reassurance that i was donig the right thing helped. Sorta like Chicken Soup for the 930 Board Soul or something like that.
Title: Re: In band/out of band relationships?
Post by: Sir HC on August 15, 2003, 12:13:00 pm
Please under no circumstances become overinvolved with the band.  I have far too often had to deal with a boy/girlfriend who wants their soulmate to be the most prominent in the music (I mix bands) and to get all the attention.  It is very annoying and ends up making you want to spite that person and drop them down in the mix.
 
 That said, there are many things you can do to be helpful, go out together flyering for the gigs, help set up the tours, be involved but don't smother.  Being a roadie gimp is good, the rest of the band will like if you bring the beer (if you are drinkers) and help get the cabinets and drums in.  But don't then start walking over the rest of the stuff.  After a show, be helpful but not overly critical, and don't go blaming others if it does sound like crap.  Just be positive.