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Title: prison sex
Post by: Ikarus on January 15, 2005, 05:34:00 am
why does the treatment of prisoners at guantanamo bay and abu gharib warrent attention that is never bestowed upon americans in correction facilities?
 
 i mean, its not like any of those dudes are gonna be released into the general population of this country...
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: walkonby on January 15, 2005, 02:28:00 pm
why do we care about prisoners at all; they commit crimes . . . remember???
 
 go watch Oz, if you want to see some prison time.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Sir HC on January 15, 2005, 02:36:00 pm
Read the book "Shit Magnet" by Jim Goad if you want to know of the hell in US prisons and why we send people there.  Really intense reading.  Also great if you want an empty seat next to you on the subway or a plane.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Jaguär on January 15, 2005, 03:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
 Also great if you want an empty seat next to you on the subway or a plane.
My luck, I'd end up with some pervert sitting next to me!
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: andyrichter on January 15, 2005, 03:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
  Read the book "Shit Magnet" by Jim Goad if you want to know of the hell in US prisons and why we send people there.  Really intense reading.  Also great if you want an empty seat next to you on the subway or a plane.
I've seen American Me.  I don't need to know any more about men raping men in prison.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on January 15, 2005, 07:12:00 pm
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Originally posted by likorice:
  why does the treatment of prisoners at guantanamo bay and abu gharib warrent attention that is never bestowed upon americans in correction facilities?
 
 i mean, its not like any of those dudes are gonna be released into the general population of this country...
maybe because we invaded Iraq pretending that we were going to give Iraqis a better life than they had under Sodom?
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: lionforce5 on January 16, 2005, 01:38:00 am
It's "Saddam," or was your misspelling intentional? (Although I'm sure that there are those in the Government and country who did feel that Iraq was a Sodom that needed to be "purified" in the biblical sense.)
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Guiny on January 16, 2005, 08:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by walkonby:
 
 go watch Oz, if you want to see some prison time.
That is just a movie and nothing like real prison life. Trust me, I've worked it.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on January 16, 2005, 09:09:00 pm
I'm sure it's no coincidence that Charles Graner worked in corrections back here in the states before going to Iraq.  I'm sure there are abuse stories just waiting to come out from that part of his life, too.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: hitman on January 17, 2005, 03:21:00 am
The problem is that the US made such a big deal out of the "we're better than they are" argument and that "we were going to give them freedom", that these pictures and such put that to bed.  So then it becomes a big news story.
 
 No matter what, there are atrocities in the American prison system.  However, prisoners aren't necessarily getting beaten for information and such, they were they are/were in Iraq and Gitmo. Most of the atrocities in American prisons are comitted inmate against inmate.
 
 I acutally feel that these guards/military personnel that are going to jail are being made scape goats.  I can't believe that in today's society, in today's military, that underlings can be so cavalier in their attitudes/approaches to accomplish something like this, without any orders from the top.  I'm sure they had orders to interrogate the piss out of these people in hopes to get information on the infamous disappearing WMD's (that were never found), and to do it by any means necessary.  Now they are getting fucked, and will become prisoners themselves.  I'm not saying their right, and shouldn't suffer some punishment, but so should the people above them as well.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 17, 2005, 06:29:00 am
Look at the prisons in Texas, Iraq and Gitmo....all have the same gaffer. Coincidence?????
 
 The military personell who are going to prison for actually doing the abusing deserve to rot in jail. Speaking as an ex-military (10+ years) member, this "I was only taking orders" shit only goes so far. I would rather have been court marshalled for disobeying a direct order than doing what they did to those people. And can you imagine ever actually getting proscecuted for it? "So, what order did you disobey?" "Well................
 
 They impeached Clinton for getting a blowjob, but this fucker gets away with murder.....literally!
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Guiny on January 17, 2005, 09:20:00 am
Well I honestly have no sympathy for any insurgent that gets humiliated or slightly tortured when the results of our prisoners are beheadings. Ten years in prison is too long for following orders, I agree mostly of what Mankie said, but from experience, disobeying a lawful order isn't as easy as saying "no" when their are probably more than one person ordering you to do it.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Sir HC on January 17, 2005, 10:22:00 am
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  Well I honestly have no sympathy for any insurgent that gets humiliated or slightly tortured when the results of our prisoners are beheadings. Ten years in prison is too long for following orders, I agree mostly of what Mankie said, but from experience, disobeying a lawful order isn't as easy as saying "no" when their are probably more than one person ordering you to do it.
It wasn't insurgents that they were doing this to.  It was random Iraqis pulled off the streets.  
 
 This guy's parents had a good comment, he would have been arrested for not following orders too.  So he could not win.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Guiny on January 17, 2005, 10:42:00 am
Yup, he was in a no win situation.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 17, 2005, 10:52:00 am
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  Yup, he was in a no win situation.
yeah, Iraq.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Sir HC on January 17, 2005, 02:43:00 pm
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Originally posted by O'Mankie:
  Look at the prisons in Texas, Iraq and Gitmo....all have the same gaffer. Coincidence?????
 
 The military personell who are going to prison for actually doing the abusing deserve to rot in jail. Speaking as an ex-military (10+ years) member, this "I was only taking orders" shit only goes so far. I would rather have been court marshalled for disobeying a direct order than doing what they did to those people. And can you imagine ever actually getting proscecuted for it? "So, what order did you disobey?" "Well................
 
 They impeached Clinton for getting a blowjob, but this fucker gets away with murder.....literally!
The problem is that according to the White House Council what they did probably was not torture.  I guess that would have been the defense that I would have taken.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Guiny on January 17, 2005, 03:25:00 pm
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
 The problem is that according to the White House Council what they did probably was not torture.  [/QB]
It was probably humiliation not torture. I'd rather be humiliated then beheaded personally.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: lionforce5 on January 17, 2005, 04:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
   
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
 The problem is that according to the White House Council what they did probably was not torture.  [/b]
It was probably humiliation not torture. [/QB]
Being anally raped with a broomstick is only humiliation in your eyes?
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Sir HC on January 17, 2005, 04:26:00 pm
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Originally posted by j_lee:
   
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
   
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
 The problem is that according to the White House Council what they did probably was not torture.  [/b]
It was probably humiliation not torture. [/b]
Being anally raped with a broomstick is only humiliation in your eyes? [/QB]
I think Roberto is hanging on this board somewhere...
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: nkotb on January 17, 2005, 04:30:00 pm
Rob was definitely embarrassed when it happened to him in boot camp.  
 
 
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Originally posted by j_lee:
   
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
   
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
 The problem is that according to the White House Council what they did probably was not torture.  [/b]
It was probably humiliation not torture. [/b]
Being anally raped with a broomstick is only humiliation in your eyes? [/QB]
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: poorlulu on January 17, 2005, 04:34:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  Well I honestly have no sympathy for any insurgent
Do you know what empathy means?
 
 If some foreigners invaded the good ole US of A would you not give your life to the cause.
 
 Oh alright it is alright for Americans to be patriotic because we have god on their side?  :roll:
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 17, 2005, 04:51:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  Well I honestly have no sympathy for any insurgent  
not even THESE insurgents?
 
   <img src="http://dc-mrg.english.ucsb.edu/WarnerTeach/E172/images/Boston.tea.party.1746.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Guiny on January 17, 2005, 05:02:00 pm
Has anyone read about the Iraqi civilians being sick of the insurgents?
 
 And NKOTB, I went to basic training not boot camp, clueless.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Guiny on January 17, 2005, 05:05:00 pm
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Originally posted by poorlulu:
 If some foreigners invaded the good ole US of A would you not give your life to the cause.
 [/QB]
Foreigners "yes", unless they were trying to help us. But killing our own people like the insurgents are doing over there, "no".
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 17, 2005, 05:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  Has anyone read about the Iraqi civilians being sick of the insurgents?
 
only in American newspapers!!!
 
 hey Rob, open wide, another spoonful of "news" is coming right atcha!
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Guiny on January 17, 2005, 05:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  Has anyone read about the Iraqi civilians being sick of the insurgents?
 
only in American newspapers!!!
 
 hey Rob, open wide, another spoonful of "news" is coming right atcha! [/b]
Hopefully it tastes good.   :D  
 
 Ok, work is over, gotta go, enjoy responding to my posts. USA, USA, USA   :D  
 
 Oh yeah, Pats v. Steelers, what a game that should be.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Sir HC on January 17, 2005, 05:33:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
   
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Originally posted by poorlulu:
 If some foreigners invaded the good ole US of A would you not give your life to the cause.
 [/b]
Foreigners "yes", unless they were trying to help us. But killing our own people like the insurgents are doing over there, "no". [/QB]
Who defines help?  We are killing some Iraqis, would you say they feel helped by the Americans.  I would not be suprised if in revolutionary times (definitely during the civil war) that those who were for the British, Tories IIRC, were killed.  Sleep with the enemy, suffer the consequences.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: hitman on January 18, 2005, 02:55:00 am
Interesting comment on Leno tonight "President Bush told the NY Times he was no longer going to fund US programs that didn't work...he everybody, then we're pulling out of Iraq tomorrow!"
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2005, 08:02:00 am
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
   
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[/b]
It wasn't insurgents that they were doing this to.  It was random Iraqis pulled off the streets.
 *That was the point I was making*  
 
 This guy's parents had a good comment, he would have been arrested for not following orders too.  So he could not win.
 *But if it was me I would still be able to look myself in the mirror if I was in military prison for disobeying a direct order*[/QB]
I believe in the old "live by the knife, die by the knife" theory, and if it was the maggots going round beheading folk, I would quite happily peel their skin with a rusty old potato peeler dipped in vinegar until they very slowly bled to death, beheading is a rather quick death and too good for those arseholes. The reality of the matter is they were just Iraqis dragged off the streets, and for that, let the spineless twat rot in his cushy little doodle prison cell, watching his cable tv while eating his three square meals a day, and sleeping in his bed with fresh sheets twice a week.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Ikarus on January 20, 2005, 05:50:00 am
if anyone's still hanging with with this thread, try reading anything by eddie bunker (aka mr. blue in "reserviour dogs"), who's got plenty to say about mandatory sentences...try reading eldridge cleaver, try anyone with a jailhouse memoir...try to understand WHAT OUR PRISON SYSTEM IS.  
 
 sorry but i don't feel bad for iraqis or afghans  or whatever.  i feel bad for americans locked into american prisons.  too bad neither dems nor repubs would ever dream of decriminalizing drugs, nor reducing mandatory minimums lest they be percieved as being "soft on crime"...
 
 all our problems are at home. why pretend they are any where else?
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 20, 2005, 06:24:00 am
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  Well I honestly have no sympathy for any insurgent  
not even THESE insurgents?
 
    <img src="http://dc-mrg.english.ucsb.edu/WarnerTeach/E172/images/Boston.tea.party.1746.jpg" alt=" - " /> [/b]
Well,now I am very humiliated....The British were chased away by insurgents waving handbags at them!
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: RatBastard on January 21, 2005, 03:45:00 am
Those are hats
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 22, 2005, 06:39:00 am
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Originally posted by RatBastard:
  Those are hats
nooooooooo, really?  :roll:
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on January 22, 2005, 08:23:00 am
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Originally posted by likorice:
 
 all our problems are at home.
you don't consider Iraq our problem?
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: RatBastard on January 23, 2005, 12:37:00 am
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Originally posted by O'Mankie:
   
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Originally posted by RatBastard:
  Those are hats
nooooooooo, really?   :roll:  [/b]
yeah I really think so!    :eek:
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 24, 2005, 08:28:00 am
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Originally posted by RatBastard:
   
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Originally posted by O'Mankie:
   
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Originally posted by RatBastard:
  Those are hats
nooooooooo, really?    :roll:   [/b]
yeah I really think so!     :eek:  [/b]
So that's were doctor Seuss got his idea for "The Twat in the Hat"
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 24, 2005, 08:29:00 am
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Originally posted by HerrDoktorDoom:
   
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Originally posted by likorice:
 
 all our problems are at home.
you don't consider Iraq our problem? [/b]
Or Afghanistan.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: hitman on January 24, 2005, 11:57:00 pm
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Originally posted by HerrDoktorDoom:
   
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Originally posted by likorice:
 
 all our problems are at home.
you don't consider Iraq our problem? [/b]
Iraq is our problem now, because we've made it our problem.  If we wouldn't have invaded in the first place, 1300 US Soldiers, and untold 1000's of Iraqi civilians would still be alive, and the deficit spending may have to cease a bit.  We've created the further mess over there now.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Jaguär on January 25, 2005, 12:48:00 am
Next stop.....
 
 .....China!
 
 They are going to kick our asses!!!
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 25, 2005, 08:40:00 am
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
  Next stop.....
 
 .....China!
 
 They are going to kick our asses!!!
Naw...... N. Korea would do it for China. China's too busy with it's high flying economy at the moment.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Guiny on January 25, 2005, 09:38:00 am
Let's blame cancer and AIDS on America too while we're at it. Hell, I bet the extinction of dinosaurs was America's fault too. When in doubt, blame it on us.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 09:44:00 am
well, you guys take credit for everything! why not go ahead and take the blame too?
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Guiny on January 25, 2005, 09:58:00 am
South Park said it best. "Blame Canada"   :p
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 10:05:00 am
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  South Park said it best. "Blame Canada"    :p  
South Park....ah yes, the show for 14 year old adolescent boys, and apparently, Rob.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Guiny on January 25, 2005, 10:29:00 am
And I'm damn proud of it.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Random Citizen on January 25, 2005, 10:31:00 am
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  And I'm damn proud of it.
Dang, you are such an American.  ;)
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Guiny on January 25, 2005, 10:32:00 am
Thank you for that compliment   ;)
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 10:42:00 am
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  And I'm damn proud of it.
ignorance is bliss
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on January 25, 2005, 11:22:00 am
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  South Park said it best. "Blame Canada"     :p  
South Park....ah yes, the show for 14 year old adolescent boys, and apparently, Rob. [/b]
are you kidding me?  are you really trying to rip into south park like that?
 
 you sound like a 41 year old fat secretary with two kids who listens to smooth jazz on her tinny radio at work
 
 sure, south park can get overly preachy, and the last five minutes of every episode is a bit ridiculous, but it's a fucking great show and certainly not meant for 14-year-olds who don't know what's going on in the world
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: on January 25, 2005, 11:25:00 am
<img src="http://www.priceless420.com/Pr012105plow.jpg" alt=" - " />
 Oh! Canada.  Yes Yesssssssssssss!  Don't stop!
   <img src="http://www.priceless420.com/Pr012405cameltoe.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Random Citizen on January 25, 2005, 11:28:00 am
Bud, lay off the cameltoes.   ;)
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 11:31:00 am
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
  are you really trying to rip into south park like that?
 
yes, South Park is one of the most brainless television shows in the history of the world
 
  are you really trying to rip into smooth jazz like that?
 
  and even if i did listen to smooth jazz...its HIS radio...not hers.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Guiny on January 25, 2005, 11:33:00 am
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  And I'm damn proud of it.
ignorance is bliss [/b]
You say I'm ignorant because I'm proud to be an American? Now that's an ignorant statement.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on January 25, 2005, 11:37:00 am
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
  are you really trying to rip into south park like that?
 
yes, South Park is one of the most brainless television shows in the history of the world
 [/b]
you, my friend, are a fucking idiot for saying that.
 
 period.
 
 you can debate the merits of the show, whether or not you think it's funny, whether it's too over-the-top-preachy, but I can think of dozens of tv shows more "brainless" than south park.
 
 i know, i know, hyperbole is fun, you just gotta lay off it sometimes, buddy
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: on January 25, 2005, 11:38:00 am
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Originally posted by andyrichter:
   
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
  Read the book "Shit Magnet" by Jim Goad if you want to know of the hell in US prisons and why we send people there.  Really intense reading.  Also great if you want an empty seat next to you on the subway or a plane.
I've seen American Me.  I don't need to know any more about men raping men in prison. [/b]
I read SHIT MAGNET.  There were no rape stories.  More like hepatitis stories.  There was a hep-C prisoner who used to go around scratching everyone with his fingernails.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 11:42:00 am
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  You say I'm ignorant because I'm proud to be an American? Now that's an ignorant statement.
i didnt say that.  i was commenting on South Park.  i said nothing about American.  read the thread mr. defensive!!!!
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 11:44:00 am
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
 you, my friend, are a fucking idiot for saying that.
 
 period.
 
 you can debate the merits of the show, whether or not you think it's funny, whether it's too over-the-top-preachy, but I can think of dozens of tv shows more "brainless" than south park.
 
oh no, there i go with my wrong opinion again.  i am not your friend, and i think, you , are the "fucking idiot"  
   
     you want a valium? did i offend everyone's precious cartoon show?
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: walkonby on January 25, 2005, 11:46:00 am
god is an american
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: lionforce5 on January 25, 2005, 11:47:00 am
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
 you, my friend, are a fucking idiot for saying that.
 
 period.
 
 i know, i know, hyperbole is fun, you just gotta lay off it sometimes, buddy
And that wasn't hyperbolizing?  South Park is alright, though I think that the creators' libertarian viewpoints have been starting more and more to get in the way of it being a true social commentary.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: markie on January 25, 2005, 11:47:00 am
Why should being born in a certain country make you proud?
 
 I understand being proud of personal acheivements, like being able to grow a long goatee or run a marathon or kicking someones ass. I however, do not understand being proud of having good fortune at birth.
 
 Do you often feel proud of acheivements you have had no role in earning?
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 11:49:00 am
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
 
 Do you often feel proud of acheivements you have had no role in earning?
you know the answer to that question, markie
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on January 25, 2005, 11:49:00 am
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
 you, my friend, are a fucking idiot for saying that.
 
 period.
 
 you can debate the merits of the show, whether or not you think it's funny, whether it's too over-the-top-preachy, but I can think of dozens of tv shows more "brainless" than south park.
 
oh no, there i go with my wrong opinion again.  i am not your friend, and i think, you , are the "fucking idiot"  
   
     you want a valium? did i offend everyone's precious cartoon show? [/b]
there's a big difference between subjective opinion and objective fact ... South Park has more brains than Married With Children, and that's not an "opinion" of mine
 
 2 + 2 = 5!!
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 11:51:00 am
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
   South Park has more brains than Married With Children, and that's not an "opinion" of mine
 
thats a fact?  and how did you measure the "brains" of a television show?  no more morning crack hits for you, mr Hoya.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: markie on January 25, 2005, 11:51:00 am
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
 
 Do you often feel proud of acheivements you have had no role in earning?
you know the answer to that question, markie [/b]
Yeah, I was thinking of sports when I wrote it....
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on January 25, 2005, 11:52:00 am
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Originally posted by j_lee:
   
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
 you, my friend, are a fucking idiot for saying that.
 
 period.
 
 i know, i know, hyperbole is fun, you just gotta lay off it sometimes, buddy
And that wasn't hyperbolizing?  South Park is alright, though I think that the creators' libertarian viewpoints have been starting more and more to get in the way of it being a true social commentary. [/b]
nah, that wasn't hyperbole, if you really think south park is the most "brainless" show on TV, you're a fucking idiot ... and I agree with you, their commentary is getting preachy, misguided, and muddled, to say the least ... the show is way past it's heyday...
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 11:52:00 am
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
  Yeah, I was thinking of sports when I wrote it....
you mean like when I won the world series a few months back?  i pat myself on the back!
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: markie on January 25, 2005, 11:52:00 am
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
  there's a big difference between subjective opinion and objective fact ... South Park has more brains than Married With Children, and that's not an "opinion" of mine
 
 2 + 2 = 5!!
If it is not an opinion of yours, what is it? It sure as hell is not a fact.
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on January 25, 2005, 11:52:00 am
I feel fortunate to have been born American, but not "proud".
 
 
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
  Why should being born in a certain country make you proud?
 
 I understand being proud of personal acheivements, like being able to grow a long goatee or run a marathon or kicking someones ass. I however, do not understand being proud of having good fortune at birth.
 
 Do you often feel proud of acheivements you have had no role in earning?
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 11:53:00 am
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I feel fortunate to have been born American, but not "proud".
 
exactly
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 11:54:00 am
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
   if you really think south park is the most "brainless" show on TV, you're a fucking idiot ...
is this objective fact as well?  is that a medical term?
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: markie on January 25, 2005, 11:55:00 am
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I feel fortunate to have been born American, but not "proud".
 
I wish all those stupid ribbons on the back of ugly SUV's with the W stickers read, "fortunate to be an American".
Title: Re: prison sex
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on January 25, 2005, 12:00:00 pm
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
   
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
  there's a big difference between subjective opinion and objective fact ... South Park has more brains than Married With Children, and that's not an "opinion" of mine
 
 2 + 2 = 5!!
If it is not an opinion of yours, what is it? It sure as hell is not a fact. [/b]
brainless
 
 adj : not using intelligence [syn: headless]
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 in·tel·li·gence   Audio pronunciation of "intelligence" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (n-tl-jns)
 n.
 
    1.
          1. The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge.
          2. The faculty of thought and reason.
          3. Superior powers of mind.
 
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 it's not an opinion to say that there are many TV shows that had more capacity to acquire and apply knowledge.  if i really fucking wanted to waste more time on this, i could quantify it, but i think this is done.
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Post by: ratioci nation on January 25, 2005, 12:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
  I wish all those stupid ribbons on the back of ugly SUV's with the W stickers read, "fortunate to be an American".
put this on your car
 
   <img src="http://images.dailykos.com/blogads/lptebjmzlptdpn/dailykospremium/3215854/thumb?rev=rev_3" alt=" - " />
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Post by: markie on January 25, 2005, 12:07:00 pm
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
  it's not an opinion to say that there are many TV shows that had more capacity to acquire and apply knowledge.  
Wait! T.V. shows have the capacity to acquire and apply knowledge?
 
 Oh wait I see what you have done you have confused T.V. shows with people. It is an easy mistake I do it all the time.  :roll:
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Post by: thirsty moore on January 25, 2005, 12:11:00 pm
Markie doesn't like commas.  He should watch more grammar shows on television.
 
 What if I don't like South Park or Married With Children?
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Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 12:12:00 pm
he obviously doesnt watch enough South Park
 
  its like Jeopardy, without the annoying Canadian guy!
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Post by: lionforce5 on January 25, 2005, 12:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by econo:
  Markie doesn't like commas.  He should watch more grammar shows on television.
 
 What if I don't like South Park or Married With Children?
Hey that's your prerogative.  As long as you're not one of those pseudo-intellectual jerkoffs who loudly proclaims that they don't even own a T.V., and even if they did all they'd watch would be PBS.
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Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on January 25, 2005, 12:15:00 pm
My favorite bumper sticker I've seen recently read:
 
 "Jesus loves you. The rest of us think you're an asshole."
 
 
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I feel fortunate to have been born American, but not "proud".
 
I wish all those stupid ribbons on the back of ugly SUV's with the W stickers read, "fortunate to be an American". [/b]
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Post by: Guiny on January 25, 2005, 12:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
 i didnt say that.  i was commenting on South Park.  i said nothing about American.  read the thread mr. defensive!!!! [/QB]
Your right, I gotta stop mixing work with chat rooms so that I can remember which one I'm at.
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Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 12:17:00 pm
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
   
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
 i didnt say that.  i was commenting on South Park.  i said nothing about American.  read the thread mr. defensive!!!! [/b]
Your right, I gotta stop mixing work with chat rooms so that I can remember which one I'm at. [/QB]
:D
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Post by: markie on January 25, 2005, 12:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by econo:
  What if I don't like South Park or Married With Children?
You are clearly not American.
 
 You might be a terrorist or an alien.
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Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on January 25, 2005, 12:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
   
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
  it's not an opinion to say that there are many TV shows that had more capacity to acquire and apply knowledge.  
Wait! T.V. shows have the capacity to acquire and apply knowledge?
 
 Oh wait I see what you have done you have confused T.V. shows with people. It is an easy mistake I do it all the time.   :roll:  [/b]
yep, there are dozens of people (but two in particular) who acquire knowledge (often about current events), then apply it on south park.
 
 there are also dozens of people who worked on married with children who didn't acquire much knowledge, or apply it on their tv show.
 
 it's a crazy concept, i know.
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Post by: thirsty moore on January 25, 2005, 12:21:00 pm
I learned that I didn't want to be a shoe salesman from Married With Children.
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Post by: markie on January 25, 2005, 12:23:00 pm
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
   many TV shows that had more capacity to acquire and apply knowledge.  
Read this again.
 
 T.V. shows cannot acquire and apply knowledge. They are not living organisms, not that only living organisms can do that.....
 
 You may learn things from T.V. shows, they maybe edumacational. But a T.V. show cannot aquire and apply knowledge.
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Post by: thirsty moore on January 25, 2005, 12:25:00 pm
Nice use of commas.
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Post by: markie on January 25, 2005, 12:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by econo:
  Nice use of commas.
Why, thankyou!
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Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 12:30:00 pm
hoyas posts are making less and less sense at time goes by.
 
   what next?  are these TV shows good for you nutritionally too?
 
    so watching South Park is a learning experience for you?  did you realize it was on comedy central?  not the learning channel, bub
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Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on January 25, 2005, 12:42:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
  hoyas posts are making less and less sense at time goes by.
 
   what next?  are these TV shows good for you nutritionally too?
 
    so watching South Park is a learning experience for you?  did you realize it was on comedy central?  not the learning channel, bub
are you channeling tucker carlson?
 
 again, you sound like an out-of-touch middle-age soccer mom (not dad)
 
 as a voracious consumer of news, watching south park isn't a learning experience for me, but it -- and other comedy central shows like The Daily Show -- are amusing takes on current events, and are most certainly educational for many, many people.
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Post by: ratioci nation on January 25, 2005, 12:45:00 pm
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
 are you channeling tucker carlson?
 
 again, you sound like an out-of-touch middle-age soccer mom (not dad)
 
 as a voracious consumer of news, watching south park isn't a learning experience for me, but it -- and other comedy central shows like The Daily Show -- are amusing takes on current events, and are most certainly educational for many, many people.
is tucker carlson a soccer mom?
 
 south park sucks, face it, you have just bought into it
 
 but what do I know, I dont even own a tv and if I did all I would watch is pbs
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Post by: thirsty moore on January 25, 2005, 12:48:00 pm
No, but he's got a show on PBS that I watch occasionally.
 
 
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Originally posted by pollard:
 is tucker carlson a soccer mom?
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Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 12:52:00 pm
this is what makes South Park so brainless.
 
 because at least no one THINKS they are learning from Married with Children.  South Park takes political events and current issues and makes a joke out of them.  brainlessly i might add.
 
   its not funny, its not original (maybe to anything on TV but really, we can all be racist,rude and curse cant we?) and you are defending it way too much...haha.
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Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on January 25, 2005, 12:52:00 pm
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Originally posted by pollard:
   
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
 are you channeling tucker carlson?
 
 again, you sound like an out-of-touch middle-age soccer mom (not dad)
 
 as a voracious consumer of news, watching south park isn't a learning experience for me, but it -- and other comedy central shows like The Daily Show -- are amusing takes on current events, and are most certainly educational for many, many people.
is tucker carlson a soccer mom?
 
 south park sucks, face it, you have just bought into it
 
 but what do I know, I dont even own a tv and if I did all I would watch is pbs [/b]
no, tucker isn't a soccer mom, but he had similar criticisms of comedy central.
 
 this isn't about whether the show sucks or not ...  that would be subjective, saying "south park sucks," which is fine by me
 
 in my OPINION, south park certainly past its prime and too preachy, but i still like the show.
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Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 12:53:00 pm
i suppose you watch Dave Chapelle's documentary on that same channel too?
 
   har har, its so funny.  dude, you're lame....
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Post by: ggw on January 25, 2005, 12:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by pollard:
 is tucker carlson a soccer mom?
 
Trivial Fact o'the Day:
 
 Tucker Carlson lives next to Dave Grohl in Alexandria.  
 
 I bet they puff nugs together.
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Post by: lionforce5 on January 25, 2005, 01:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by pollard:
  but what do I know, I dont even own a tv and if I did all I would watch is pbs
:p
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Post by: on January 25, 2005, 03:49:00 pm
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Originally posted by Forumie Partie Markie:
  T.V. shows cannot acquire and apply knowledge. They are not living organisms, not that only living organisms can do that.....
 
 You may learn things from T.V. shows, they maybe edumacational. But a T.V. show cannot aquire and apply knowledge.
What about "fuzzy logic" & thoughtput?
 
 BTW, I like South Park.  Team Dupek likes the newer episodes better than the old stuff.  Call us over the hill..?
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Post by: bsuss on January 25, 2005, 05:15:00 pm
is that sonickteam2 or mike powell?
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Post by: bsuss on January 25, 2005, 05:22:00 pm
i'm going to agree with hoyasaxa03. It does sound as if your abit out of touch, even your name is outdated, sonickteam2 nobody even plays sonic the headgehog anymore.
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Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 05:26:00 pm
ok, "east coast brian".  back to your homework
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Post by: bsuss on January 25, 2005, 05:27:00 pm
good one
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Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 05:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by eastcoastbrian:
  even your name is outdated, sonickteam2 nobody even plays sonic the headgehog anymore.
surely you jest.
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Post by: bsuss on January 25, 2005, 05:30:00 pm
oh I jest
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Post by: Guiny on January 25, 2005, 06:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by eastcoastbrian:
 sonickteam2 nobody even plays sonic the headgehog anymore. [/QB]
I think the name goes beyond the video game.   ;)
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Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 06:54:00 pm
lol
 
  the name, actually, has nothing to do with the game at all.  i have never even played that game. i dont own a video game system.  and i havent owned one since my Atari 5200.
 
   i guess that makes me a fat secretary too  :)
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Post by: bsuss on January 25, 2005, 07:40:00 pm
Guys I was kidding about the game referance. Lets work on that sense of humor, and lets not bring fat secretarys into this thats just rude.  :)
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Post by: bsuss on January 25, 2005, 07:43:00 pm
also I got an Atari 400. With miner 2049er and joust
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Post by: sonickteam2 on January 25, 2005, 07:49:00 pm
<img src="http://www.mahopa.de/bilder/lustige-forenbilder/nobody-cares.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Post by: bsuss on January 25, 2005, 07:54:00 pm
Your so good at being funny Sonic. (nobody cares ha ha pure genius)
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Post by: bsuss on January 25, 2005, 07:56:00 pm
O.K. I'm off to A.S.A.P. till next time America!
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Post by: Guiny on January 25, 2005, 08:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by eastcoastbrian:
  also I got an Atari 400. With miner 2049er and joust
I had Miner 2049er for colleco vision, that game ruled!!!!!!!
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Post by: bsuss on January 26, 2005, 11:28:00 am
no matter how many times I died in miner 2049er, it would still make me jump! always caught me off gaurd.