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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 18, 2003, 06:04:00 pm
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Anybody ever been? I'm not interested in being there for the whole thing, just wondering if they sell individual show tickets for the shows that are tied in with the festival.
Also, is it so huge that it would make a dent in the NYC hotel market, or is NYC so big that it wouldn't affect said market?
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Never been, but I know there were tickets available through the normal channels for some of the shows last year.
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If I recall correctly, the CMJ Fest happens during a week with another major event, maybe NYC Fashion Week or something like that. But CMJ usually offers promo hotel rates to conference attendees.
There are individual tickets available to the public for the various shows, but they're first-come, first-served. So get there early because I'm sure they go fast if the club is small since conference badges get admitted first.
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I was able to buy individual tickets in advance last year through both Ticketmaster and Ticketweb depending on the venue.
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Thanks for the info, y'all. Specifically, I was referring to the Shins show at the Bowery Ballroom on October 24 (Friday). I'm hoping that there are advanced tickets for that one. We were planning on going to NYC around that time, and it would be great to see them there. If anyone hears about tickets for that show, please post it here. Thanks...
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FYI, Bowery Ballroom uses Ticketweb. I will let you know if I hear anything.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Thanks for the info, y'all. Specifically, I was referring to the Shins show at the Bowery Ballroom on October 24 (Friday). I'm hoping that there are advanced tickets for that one. We were planning on going to NYC around that time, and it would be great to see them there. If anyone hears about tickets for that show, please post it here. Thanks...
Not to sound mean, but you'd probably have about as good a chance travelling back in time and getting tickets for the Producers with Lane/Broderick.
That said, I'm going to CMJ, with my radio station kindly covering the registration cost. Should be a good time, presuming most of the shows aren't 21+. But then again, given that it starts on a Wed, it's pretty obvious they don't really give a flying fuck about college students attending.
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Originally posted by mjnova:
Not to sound mean, but you'd probably have about as good a chance travelling back in time and getting tickets for the Producers with Lane/Broderick.
why do you say that? I looked at several shows last year, and there were tickets available.
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Apparently because lots of fags like to go to Nathan Lane plays.
Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by mjnova:
Not to sound mean, but you'd probably have about as good a chance travelling back in time and getting tickets for the Producers with Lane/Broderick.
why do you say that? . [/b]
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by mjnova:
Not to sound mean, but you'd probably have about as good a chance travelling back in time and getting tickets for the Producers with Lane/Broderick.
why do you say that? I looked at several shows last year, and there were tickets available. [/b]
Well yeah, but Shins aren't the nobodies that most bands playing are. I'm 100% sure their show will sell out, and that it will sell out reeeeally fast.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Apparently because lots of fags like to go to Nathan Lane plays.
Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by mjnova:
Not to sound mean, but you'd probably have about as good a chance travelling back in time and getting tickets for the Producers with Lane/Broderick.
why do you say that? . [/b]
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Huh? Either way, I wish you luck.
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I realize that. They are doing three sold out shows there in September. The point of my question was whether the general public were going to get an equal chance at the tickets, or were record company and radio morons going to get all the tickets.
It's funny that Mercer played a small place like Iota within the past year. Must be a lot of music and press goons talking them up of late.
Originally posted by mjnova:
Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by mjnova:
Not to sound mean, but you'd probably have about as good a chance travelling back in time and getting tickets for the Producers with Lane/Broderick.
why do you say that? I looked at several shows last year, and there were tickets available. [/b]
Well yeah, but Shins aren't the nobodies that most bands playing are. I'm 100% sure their show will sell out, and that it will sell out reeeeally fast. [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I realize that. They are doing three sold out shows there in September. The point of my question was whether the general public were going to get an equal chance at the tickets, or were record company and radio morons going to get all the tickets.
It's funny that Mercer played a small place like Iota within the past year. Must be a lot of music and press goons talking them up of late.
Industry goons will be on that like message board posters on an easy cliche.
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you know what, Mercer's set was good, but I really enjoy Iron and Wine a lot more. Great album, That's who should be playing.
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I enjoyed them both, but thought Rosie Thomas was the best.
Originally posted by chknfngrs:
you know what, Mercer's set was good, but I really enjoy Iron and Wine a lot more. Great album, That's who should be playing.
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If you go for tickets as soon as they go on sale, I don't think you will have any trouble. Just don't wait too long. Seeing them at the Bowery Ballroom will be great! I still haven't decided if I'm going to CMJ...
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Just hope they don't go on sale during the three days I'm in a tent without a pc my my side. :)
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I just looked at the list of bands (http://www.cmj.com/marathon/showcase.php). Biffy Clyro and British Sea Power are on the list! Wouldn't it be excellent if Biffy Clyro opened for BSP on their tour? I might actually get to see the band all my Brit friends have been talking about.
And Rhett, even if tickets go on sale during those three days, I still think you will have a good chance at getting tickets.
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I'd love for boardies to look at the list of bands and see if there are recommendations. You know, outside of the biggies like Shins, Death Cab for Cutie, Ted Leo, My Morning Jacket, etc.
For instance, You Am I are a great band from Australia that have actually been around forever down there. Obviously they're finally taking a real crack at the U.S. market. I hope to catch them.
Also, where can you find out the actual schedule with venues?
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Stars are a wimpy synth band from Montreal not unlike Postal Service. They sound pretty good.
The Autumn Defense is Wilco bassists John Stirrat's side project. Never heard their music though.
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Just off the top of my head, these are the bands that I would be interested in seing:
American Analog Set
The Apes
British Sea Power
The Constantines
Earlimart
The Gossip
Les Savy Fav
The Long Winters
Longwave
Lucero
The Mars Volta
Nada Surf
Radio 4
The Rapture
The Shins
Singapore Sling
South
The Starlight Mints
The Tyde
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My list:
Adam Green
American Analog Set
The Apes
The Baptist Generals
British Sea Power
Broken Social Scene
The Constantines
Death Cab For Cutie
Dub Narcotic Sound System
Earlimart
Elefant
Kinski
Les Savy Fav
The Long Winters
Longwave
Lucero
Mates Of State
Mink Lungs
Moving Units
My Morning Jacket
Nada Surf
Panthers
Pleasure Forever
Pretty Girls Make Graves
The Shins
The Starlight Mints
The Thermals
The Tyde
Wheat
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You guys remind me of when I posted a message on the Robbie Fulks chatboard saying "Some of you alt-country listeners will like just about ANYTHING, as long as it's alt-country." and Robbie pm'ed me back in agreement to the effect of "Amen, brother."
Surely, at least half the bands that are playingthe CMJ are no better than average, and only a handful are excellent. It's the law of averages.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
You guys remind me of when I posted a message on the Robbie Fulks chatboard saying "Some of you alt-country listeners will like just about ANYTHING, as long as it's alt-country." and Robbie pm'ed me back in agreement to the effect of "Amen, brother."
Surely, at least half the bands that are playingthe CMJ are no better than average, and only a handful are excellent. It's the law of averages.
A band does not have to be great for me to have interest in seeing them live. I would not go to very many shows if that were the case.
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This was my list....
Bettie Serveert
British Sea Power
Cobra High
Earlimart
Elefant
The Long Winters
Longwave
My Morning Jacket
Pretty Girls Make Graves
The Shins
Shonen Knife
The Starlight Mints
Stellastarr*
Superchunk
The Tyde
Vhs Or Beta
You Am I
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Originally posted by bags:
This was my list....
Vhs Or Beta
they supported Cinerama last year. I really didnt like them at all. Kind of funky disco rock with no words..... Not really my kind of thing.
Adam Green on the other hand......
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Tell me about Adam Green (I think I thought VHS was someone else...sounds yucky to me).
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Originally posted by bags:
Tell me about Adam Green (I think I thought VHS was someone else...sounds yucky to me).
Adam Green was in the moldy peaches. He is an antifolk artist. He is Jewish New yorker with an acoustic guitar. His first album was hilarious and brilliant. His new album that just came out adds a string section and I cannot stop listening to it. It is my favourite album for a while. I have seen him live 3 times this year.......
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What is an antifolk artist?
Jewish New Yorker? There's two strikes against him right there.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by bags:
Tell me about Adam Green (I think I thought VHS was someone else...sounds yucky to me).
Adam Green was in the moldy peaches. He is an antifolk artist. He is Jewish New yorker with an acoustic guitar. His first album was hilarious and brilliant. His new album that just came out adds a string section and I cannot stop listening to it. It is my favourite album for a while. I have seen him live 3 times this year....... [/b]
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http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/v/vhsorbeta-lefunk.shtml (http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/v/vhsorbeta-lefunk.shtml)
VHS or beta review for you
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] What is an antifolk artist?
Jewish New Yorker? There's two strikes against him right there.
Oh he is quite charming, we went to talk to him and he just picked his nose.
http://www.olivejuicemusic.com/antifolk_comp.html (http://www.olivejuicemusic.com/antifolk_comp.html)
antifolk is contempory folk. Performed by young guys, charecterised by its earthy sound quick and cheap reocording and a degree of whit and everyday observation in its lyrics. As such Adam Greens new album isnt really antifolk. Its moving closer to absurdist Leonard Coen, but easier to make friends with.
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Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
I recall not liking them.
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Here is a review of a compilation that explains a little-
VARIOUS ARTISTS
Antifolk Vol. 1
(Rough Trade)
US release date: 5 November 2002
UK release date: 2 September 2002
by Jesse Fox Mayshark
PopMatters Music Critic
Folk You!
For all the talk about the "New York scene" these days, the truth is that there are actually many scenes going on all at the same time. That's what you'd expect in a city of eight million people, of course -- even leaving aside the obvious distinctions (hip-hoppers vs. jazzbos vs. art-noise rockers vs. new-new-wavers, etc.), artists sort themselves out by neighborhood, venue, musical affinity, influences, etc. And that means the mini-scenes that evolve can be remarkably collegial and cohesive.
The Antifolk Vol. 1 compilation is a document of just such a scene, the punky singer-songwriter crowd that gathers for Monday night "Antihoots" at Sidewalk Café in Alphabet City. It's a family of sorts -- and while they might like to pretend otherwise, the big sister and brother of this rag-tag bunch are undeniably Kimya Dawson and Adam Green of the Moldy Peaches. It's not just that Dawson and Green (who each contributes one solo track) compiled the CD. Their raw nursery rhyme aesthetic, with its sing-along melodies, left-field absurdity and casual profanity, is the touchstone for most of the 20 artists here. Few of the offerings live up to the comic-tragic standards of the Moldy Peaches' weirdly lovable 2001 debut, but most are minor pleasures on their own terms.
The songs fall roughly into two camps, joke ones and serious ones. But a lot of the jokes have an edge, and even the serious ones can be funny. You can laugh at the title of Jeffrey Lewis' "You Don't Have to Be a Scientist to Do Experiments on Your Own Heart", but the song is plaintively sincere. Diane Cluck's haunting "Monte Carlo" may be the loveliest track on the album, but it's full of sardonic one-liners. The deliberately limited instrumentation (mostly acoustic guitars, with only a couple of full-band songs) can't help bringing to mind obvious references: Dylan on Jim Flynn's "Smokescreen a Capella Techno Blues" and Brer Brian's "Harlem '99", the Violent Femmes on Lach's "Drinking Beers With Mom", Beck on Paleface's "Say What You Want".
In general, the songwriting is better than the singing, and the singing is better than the playing and production -- but then, the rattletrap arrangements and homegrown tape hiss are part of the offhand appeal. The flattened vocals can be a little wearing, which is why the real singers stand out (Diane Cluck, Grey Revell, Patsy Grace). Dawson and Green remain in something of a class by themselves -- the oddball lilt of each of their songs makes it easy to see why they were the ones to score first. In particular, Dawson's enigmatic "I'm Fine" (which is also on her solo CD Knock, Knock Who?) is as troubling as it is endearing.
The "antifolk" tag is a little misleading. Sure, the attitude owes a lot to punk, but punk also owed more than it knew to the scuzzier side of the '60s folk revival (for proof, check out Ramblin' Jack Elliott's 1961 duet with Bob Dylan on Eric Von Schmidt's "Acne", in which the lovesick teenage narrator plans to kill his parents with a shotgun). The 20-something smart-asses at the Sidewalk Café are carrying on more traditions than they're breaking. Good for them, and lucky for us. It's a New York scene worth preserving.
â?? 8 November 2002
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
I recall not liking them.
Green's solo is much better than Moldy Peaches, not sure who they opened for.
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Here's my list:
The Apes
Biffy Clyro
Black Box Recorder
British Sea Power
Broken Social Scene
Dance Disaster Movement
Death Cab For Cutie
Dub Narcotic Sound System
Earlimart
Elefant
The Fever
Les Savy Fav
The Long Winters
Mark Gardener (Ex-Ride)
Moving Units
Oxes
Pilot To Gunner
Pretty Girls Make Graves
Radio 4
The Shins
Shonen Knife
Singapore Sling
South
The Starlight Mints
Stellastarr*
Trachtenberg Family Slideshow Players
The Tyde
Vendetta Red
You Am I
Bags, if you liked Idlewild, you would probably enjoy Biffy Clyro.
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You mean he's like Jason Mraz?
Or more like Steve Earle?
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] What is an antifolk artist?
Jewish New Yorker? There's two strikes against him right there.
Oh he is quite charming, we went to talk to him and he just picked his nose.
http://www.olivejuicemusic.com/antifolk_comp.html (http://www.olivejuicemusic.com/antifolk_comp.html)
antifolk is contempory folk. Performed by young guys, charecterised by its earthy sound quick and cheap reocording and a degree of whit and everyday observation in its lyrics. As such Adam Greens new album isnt really antifolk. Its moving closer to absurdist Leonard Coen, but easier to make friends with. [/b]
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Originally posted by ggw™:
Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
I recall not liking them.
The Strokes
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Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
I recall not liking them.
Green's solo is much better than Moldy Peaches, not sure who they opened for. [/b]
To answer my own question....
It was everyone's favorite 3-car garage band:
http://www.inmusicwetrust.com/articles/43h05.html (http://www.inmusicwetrust.com/articles/43h05.html)
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
Originally posted by ggw™:
Who did the Moldy Peaches open for at the 9:30 a couple of years ago?
I recall not liking them.
The Strokes [/b]
ding Ding DING
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
You mean he's like Jason Mraz?
Or more like Steve Earle?
neither, listen here- http://www.roughtraderecords.com/rt107.html (http://www.roughtraderecords.com/rt107.html)
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Work doesn't allow us Real Audio. Sure is an ugly dude. Looks like he could fit about four fingers in that nose.
Originally posted by Robert Pollard:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
You mean he's like Jason Mraz?
Or more like Steve Earle?
neither, listen here- http://www.roughtraderecords.com/rt107.html (http://www.roughtraderecords.com/rt107.html) [/b]
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
Bags, if you liked Idlewild, you would probably enjoy Biffy Clyro.
Thanks! Just the kind of tips I'm looking for...
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Adam Green = the Ben Lee/Ben Kweller school!
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Originally posted by bags:
Adam Green = the Ben Lee/Ben Kweller school!
no, not really, he is good friends with Ben Kweller, but Kweller is not nearly as creative lyrically as Green
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I saw Ben Lee open for somebody, and he was absolutely horrible.
I've heard some of Ben Kweller, not bad though not great. Sounds more power pop than folk to me, though.
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I hate kweller, he is pop rock, definitely not antiolk.
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to me some of adam green's songs are like tenacious d songs... they are funny if one is 13. his straight songs were better, the rest just make the audience tither in the he just sang f*ck way.
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I don't know Kweller, but am very familiar with Lee, and he's antifolk based on the description here. Clever lyrics (old stuff), and he does some songs that are extremely similar to the Jessica Simpson song; not as dark, but clever.
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Originally posted by bags:
Adam Green = the Ben Lee/Ben Kweller school!
I really like Adams new one.He writes some of the most humorous lyrics in Rock.He can throw down some good melodic pop as well when he is so inclined.
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this may be the only negative review I've ever read in AMG:
Picture Beat Happening without the charm and wit (and with even less musical talent). The Moldy Peaches attempt to be humorous and fail miserably, thinking that using "turd" in their songs is tantamount to being funny. Unfortunately many of the songs are musically quite good (some, however, are just horrible). A few even start off with great lyrics, but a verse or two into the song break down; "Anyone Else But You" is such a song. Musically it is nice and lyrically it even starts off quite well, but very quickly it degrades. The Moldy Peaches have a great lo-fi approach to music which is too often spoiled by poor lyrics; maybe their live performance â?? in which the duo dresses in a rat costume and a sailor outfit â?? simply doesn't translate well into recorded media.
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That AMG review certainly seems to bolster Kosmo's comment.
And I agree; don't know that I've ever read a downright negative review in AMG.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
make the audience tither in the, he just sang f*ck, way.
I think thats a flaw in the audience. They didnt do that in New York.
At 9.30 its was Kwellers teen audience though. In NY it was Adam Green Headlining one time, Oranges band, Adam Green and Walkmen headling the other.
No one laughed when he swore. Although they did laugh at some of the more absurdist lyrics, which might be the point.
Is music to serious to be funny?
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Originally posted by bags:
That AMG review certainly seems to bolster Kosmo's comment.
Adam green has moved on a long way since the days of the moldy peaches. But the show Kosmo saw was this year. He would have probably detested the moldy peaches.
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don't get me wrong i concur with sparx on adam's ability to write a great melody. at the kweller show everytime he appeared to be losing his audience out came a tither inducing song. personally i prefer lyrics with double entendre, they are more clever and creative.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
everytime he appeared to be losing his audience out came a tither inducing song. personally i prefer lyrics with double entendre, they are more clever and creative.
I imagne most of songs would have that effect on that kweller crowd. I dont think he was choosing songs for that purpose. It was just an awful crowd.
If you listen to Adam Greens albums you will find the lyrics are clever and creative, but include profanity carelessly thrown in.