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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: G.Love on August 19, 2003, 09:06:00 am
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Phair phones this one in....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/entertainment/20030818-092310-4660r.htm (http://www.washingtontimes.com/entertainment/20030818-092310-4660r.htm)
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Originally posted by G.Love:
Phair phones this one in....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/entertainment/20030818-092310-4660r.htm (http://www.washingtontimes.com/entertainment/20030818-092310-4660r.htm)
The Post has a different opinion:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7468-2003Aug17.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7468-2003Aug17.html)
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i'll bet it's the same writer using psydoneums to pull off a great prank...
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Originally posted by raebyddet:
The Post has a different opinion:
left or right, I would think that they could at least agree on music, but I guess not.
anyway the Post lies (didn't that use to be a bumper sticker around town?) and the Rev. Sun yung Moon doesn't! ;)
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Hahahahahhaha G. Love is the one person in DC who reads the washington times hahahahahahahha
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Even though it was a short set i thought she was great, i'd like to see her again by herself and not with that geek Jason Mraz.......She can go ahead and wear that short lil skirt again also. :D
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Hahahahahhaha G. Love is the one person in DC who reads the washington times hahahahahahahha
Someone left it on the MARC train, so I read it.
It was part of the packaging material in the box that my blow-up sex doll came in.
It was a free weeks trial subscription.
Our dog stole the neighbors copy.
It came wrapped around the fish I bought at the seafood market.
Okay, okay, okay!!! I admit I do read the Times. :mad: so what!!! news is news right? it can't be distorted, can it?
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Originally posted by G.Love:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Hahahahahhaha G. Love is the one person in DC who reads the washington times hahahahahahahha
Someone left it on the MARC train, so I read it.
It was part of the packaging material in the box that my blow-up sex doll came in.
It was a free weeks trial subscription.
Our dog stole the neighbors copy.
It came wrapped around the fish I bought at the seafood market.
Okay, okay, okay!!! I admit I do read the Times. :mad: so what!!! news is news right? it can't be distorted, can it? [/b]
Culty McCult. I guess O'Reilly factored you over to the right huh?
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Wow! Even I don't read the Washington Times.
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say what you like about the times......
I think the reviewer from the times wrote a better review than was found in the post. Its full of details, such as no encore, that are missing from the posts review. The absence of such details always makes me think the reviewer didnt go to the show or didnt stay till the end.
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She was the middle act on a three act bill. Thus, technically she was one of the openers. Openers typically don't get an encore. Perhaps the Post reviewer saw no reason to comment on this, since it was not out of the norm. Perhaps the Times reviewer is not as familiar with rock show protocol and felt the need to comment on something that wasn't even relevant.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
say what you like about the times......
I think the reviewer from the times wrote a better review than was found in the post. Its full of details, such as no encore, that are missing from the posts review. The absence of such details always makes me think the reviewer didnt go to the show or didnt stay till the end.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
She was the middle act on a three act bill. Thus, technically she was one of the openers. Openers typically don't get an encore. Perhaps the Post reviewer saw no reason to comment on this, since it was not out of the norm. Perhaps the Times reviewer is not as familiar with rock show protocol and felt the need to comment on something that was even relevant.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
say what you like about the times......
I think the reviewer from the times wrote a better review than was found in the post. Its full of details, such as no encore, that are missing from the posts review. The absence of such details always makes me think the reviewer didnt go to the show or didnt stay till the end.
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I'm gonna agree with both y'all. Openers don't do encores and the Post should just stop doing live rock reviews altogether. The NYTimes should also shut John Paralles (or whatever his name is) up.
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Originally posted by mjnova:
I'm gonna agree with both y'all. Openers don't do encores and the Post should just stop doing live rock reviews altogether. The NYTimes should also shut John Paralles (or whatever his name is) up.
The Fruit Bats and High Strung have both played encores as openers in the last couple of weeks.
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Who writes decent concert reviews?
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only Kurosawa :)
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Who writes decent concert reviews?
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me.
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Allow me to rephrase:
What professional in a nationally or regionally recognized published journal pens concert reviews that you find to be worthwhile?
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Any writer who pisses off more than five people on this board. He/she would thus be doing my job for me.
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These "poor" reviews are not the result of lack of knowledge or poor writing.
Writing an objective review of anything is pretty much impossible. The only option would be to report what songs were played, what the artist was wearing, how many were in attendence, etc...
Do any of you think that you could write reviews that would not be consistantly trashed by this board and/or the general public?
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other than being in the times, I dont see anything wrong with that review. Sure its negative, but I like its little quotes of what people were saying.
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how do you know those quotes weren't made up? They weren't attributed to anybody by name.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
other than being in the times, I dont see anything wrong with that review. Sure its negative, but I like its little quotes of what people were saying.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
how do you know those quotes weren't made up? They weren't attributed to anybody by name.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
other than being in the times, I dont see anything wrong with that review. Sure its negative, but I like its little quotes of what people were saying.
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As the old saying goes: "Nobody believes anything attributed to a government official, but readily accepts anything from an unnamed source."
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] how do you know those quotes weren't made up? They weren't attributed to anybody by name.
It didnt really bother me if they were real or not, I think its a reasonable style to try and recreate the buzz of the crowd. Do you not love earwigging other peoples inane banter at shows? Imagine how cool it would be if someone listened in on your conversation and then asked your name,
Rhett Miller from DC said, "Insane clown posse were awesome, after seeing OK Go live a couple of times, well I thought no one could match that, But ICP really wore lots of make up."
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Sometimes they do quote and name the person in Post music stories. Then nine years later your friends google you and find out you used to follow Phish, and you forever lose whatever musical credibility you ever had.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] how do you know those quotes weren't made up? They weren't attributed to anybody by name.
It didnt really bother me if they were real or not, I think its a reasonable style to try and recreate the buzz of the crowd. Do you not love earwigging other peoples inane banter at shows? Imagine how cool it would be if someone listened in on your conversation and then asked your name,
Rhett Miller from DC said, "Insane clown posse were awesome, after seeing OK Go live a couple of times, well I thought no one could match that, But ICP really wore lots of make up." [/b]
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Sometimes they do quote and name the person in Post music stories. Then nine years later your friends google you and find out you used to follow Phish, and you forever lose whatever musical credibility you ever had.
Is this a confession?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Sometimes they do quote and name the person in Post music stories. Then nine years later your friends google you and find out you used to follow Phish, and you forever lose whatever musical credibility you ever had.
I don't think the person you are referring to had any credibility to begin with!
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Originally posted by Celeste:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Sometimes they do quote and name the person in Post music stories. Then nine years later your friends google you and find out you used to follow Phish, and you forever lose whatever musical credibility you ever had.
I don't think the person you are referring to had any credibility to begin with! [/b]
Is that a self-deprecating confession?
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No, my wife googled one of our friends and came up with aformentioned info yesterday. As the otherwise nice, though designated friend who talks throughout live shows, she doesn't carry music credibility anyway.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Sometimes they do quote and name the person in Post music stories. Then nine years later your friends google you and find out you used to follow Phish, and you forever lose whatever musical credibility you ever had.
Is this a confession? [/b]
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Originally posted by Guiny:
Even though it was a short set i thought she was great, i'd like to see her again by herself and not with that geek Jason Mraz.......She can go ahead and wear that short lil skirt again also. :D
As I told the Times reporter, I didn't like the show as much as my friends Dave and Scott because I didn't want to nail her. They sure as hell did. More easily pleased in this case.
While I didn't hate the show, I was definitely disappointed. As soon as the mix included tinkly little happy keyboard bells in The Divorce Song, I knew this was not going to be what I hoped.
And 48 minutes, that is bullshit. Plus, every break between songs was about Jason fucking Mraz (except for her one mention of the blackout and the Dandy Warhols). Pissed me off; the folks there to see her did not give a SHIT about Mraz. Man was he awful.
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
say what you like about the times......
I think the reviewer from the times wrote a better review than was found in the post. Its full of details, such as no encore, that are missing from the posts review. The absence of such details always makes me think the reviewer didnt go to the show or didnt stay till the end.
And the Times guy talked to a lot of fans and got a lot of perspectives, including those from me and my posse, who all disagreed on the show. I believe the quote about just standing around might have been me.
That's why I read the Times; the reviewer told me the story would be in Tuesday. That post review -- whew. Even the guys with me who liked it didn't like it that much.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
She was the middle act on a three act bill. Thus, technically she was one of the openers. Openers typically don't get an encore. Perhaps the Post reviewer saw no reason to comment on this, since it was not out of the norm. Perhaps the Times reviewer is not as familiar with rock show protocol and felt the need to comment on something that wasn't even relevant.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
say what you like about the times......
I think the reviewer from the times wrote a better review than was found in the post. Its full of details, such as no encore, that are missing from the posts review. The absence of such details always makes me think the reviewer didnt go to the show or didnt stay till the end.
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Nope, it was a double bill, she was not an opener. There should have been an encore, or if not, then a show lasting at least more than an hour. It was bullshit. (Sorry, this one got my dander up.)
I think she has her kid on tour with her and wants to be offstage by 10:30.
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What's the difference if she plays 50 mins with no encore, or 40 mins with a 10 min encore? Encores ar a big farce anyway.
Originally posted by bags:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
She was the middle act on a three act bill. Thus, technically she was one of the openers. Openers typically don't get an encore. Perhaps the Post reviewer saw no reason to comment on this, since it was not out of the norm. Perhaps the Times reviewer is not as familiar with rock show protocol and felt the need to comment on something that wasn't even relevant.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
say what you like about the times......
I think the reviewer from the times wrote a better review than was found in the post. Its full of details, such as no encore, that are missing from the posts review. The absence of such details always makes me think the reviewer didnt go to the show or didnt stay till the end.
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Nope, it was a double bill, she was not an opener. There should have been an encore, or if not, then a show lasting at least more than an hour. It was bullshit. (Sorry, this one got my dander up.)
I think she has her kid on tour with her and wants to be offstage by 10:30. [/b]
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Well i dont know many songs from Liz Phair but i thought she did a great job, I dont think the Post guy coulda done a better job thats for sure. I didnt expect an encore cause she was the second act so i didnt need to whine about that. I believe her daughter was at the concert, during "Flower" she looked up there almost like "Why hasnt the nanny taken her out of here like i asked when this song came on"
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Only problem is she has a son, not a daughter. But somebody's daughter was up there!
I don't give a rat's ass about encores, but would like more than 50 minutes. Again, this was a co-headliner show. Or, it was supposed to be.
And we're screwed because it was her last show with Mraz. I'll be interested to find out how her solo shows in other cities go.
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How was Mraz? I left before he even came on......My guess is he sucked.
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ohmygod, this Jason Mraz fellow sucked, badly. (Compared to sucking well, which I might say Phair did, both because I didn't hate her show and it feeds into her whole sexual thing, you know).
He had a big audience of folks who probably also saw Counting Crows on Friday. They sang along to all of it (or what I saw, which was snippets as I popped up from the Back Bar to see what it was all about). It's adult-oriented 'rock.'
From AMG:
Jason Mraz's Waiting for My Rocket to Come is a two-part invention. The first level is that of a young, almost compelling, singer/songwriter. Mraz has a nice voice, perhaps a little too articulated at times, which manages to mostly avoid the histrionic despite a predilection towards show tuney melodic turns. His voice tumbles out on top of folk-reggae rhythms that will probably sound a bit dated with time, but his vocals are filled with enough internal rhythms and rhymes to keep them interesting. Lyrically, Mraz relies on cliché to a certain degree, but does so with an earnestness that allows for believability and an eye for imagery that succeeds often enough to suggest that he knows what he's doing. The second level of Waiting for My Rocket to Come is the production of John AlagÃa, whose work has enhanced other similar folk-pop fair, including the Dave Matthews Band and O.A.R. His work with Mraz is, at its best, transparent, filling out the songs with subtle and glossy production and instrumentation. Reflections of banjos, organs, mellotrons, lap steels, ukuleles, and others peak out through the shine of the tunes, creating an impact too rich to be written off as lite. â?? Jesse Jarnow
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Has "folk pop" been elavated to the same level of revulsion as "emo" yet?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Has "folk pop" been elavated to the same level of revulsion as "emo" yet?
*insert compulsory alt.country joke here*