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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: markie on August 24, 2003, 02:33:00 pm
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here's a couple of reviews from the Boston show brought to my attention by Jadetree the wet blanket.
http://www.rainbow.plus.com/pistols/pistols_2003_boston.htm (http://www.rainbow.plus.com/pistols/pistols_2003_boston.htm)
makes the thing sound good. I am starting to get so excitedThat I already have on have my white bondage shorts, along with my "for soldiers prostiutes dykes and punks t-shirt".
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This is gonna be such a hit or miss show, but just the fact that i never expected to see them in my lifetime makes it worth it.
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hit
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Defenite hit!!!!!!!!!!!! Great show!!!!!!! Put all those new punk wannabee bands to shame.
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Hit. I thought they played a great set, sounded great, were pretty much spot on for all the songs. Johnny was in great form.
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Walk-off home run to beat the Yankees.
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Great show, and best of all I get to relive it today with my aches and pains and ringing ears, was a lot of fun on the floor.
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The show was excellent. After the '96 debacle and the lukewarm review of the Boston show, my expectations were kind of low, but were handily exceeded. I'm far less sore than I expected I would be.
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How long was their set? I wish I would have gone, but $40 was a little steep for a band that I didn't get to see when they first came out (damn that being in a younger demographic) and one that I was a bit ambivalent about seeing live. What songs did they play? Did Mr. Rotten himself have any sassy comments? Do tell.
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can't believe how bruised i am.........good show though........much better than i expected.............
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Originally posted by paige:
How long was their set? I wish I would have gone, but $40 was a little steep for a band that I didn't get to see when they first came out (damn that being in a younger demographic) and one that I was a bit ambivalent about seeing live. What songs did they play? Did Mr. Rotten himself have any sassy comments? Do tell.
Pretty much the entire "Nevermind the Bullocks" plus "No Fun" and "Belsen was a Gas"...John was in fine sneering bug eyed form, not sure what he had against that one bouncer though, cared enough to run over and tap him on the shoulder and berate him...heh...
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Originally posted by paige:
How long was their set? I wish I would have gone, but $40 was a little steep for a band that I didn't get to see when they first came out (damn that being in a younger demographic) and one that I was a bit ambivalent about seeing live. What songs did they play? Did Mr. Rotten himself have any sassy comments? Do tell.
the only great bit of the show for me was at the end of anarchy.....
the crowd was all singing along.....
"cos I want to be anarchy"
and Jonny goes, "well why fucking dontcha then"
I think they played the whole of never mind the bollocks and not much else.
What happened to GGW, one minute he was towering over me, the next, he was gone. I am really sore today joining the melee with sunburn was really one of the most painful things I have done in a while.
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Show clocked in at 1 hour. I didn't think it was that loud, great volume for the club, but didn't go over the top. Now if the original PIL would tour I would be in heaven.
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the love handled ones need to back in the studio and put a new record out... the establishment could really use a sex pistols provided kick up the backside. and didn't steve jones's guitar sound ace through the 9:30 sound system... johnny was in fine grimacing form as well and what a rhythm section.
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Jones' guitar through the 9:30 system? Most of that was friggin' stage volume. He plays LOUD! But they made it sound great. Just plugged into the amp, no pedals.
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the band was tight, focused, and in good spirits throughout. steve jones was in total control laying down classic riff/understated solo after classic riff/understated solo. i actually would have been happy if it was louder. mr. rotten seemed determined to show that he is not a joke (funny, but not a joke), that the pistols are still relevant, and that punk is an attitude that has nothing to do with age or what you wear, and the case was definitely made. glen matlock looked cool and paul cook looked like he was desperately trying to hold on while nailing every song. it was the band playing all their songs stripped of all the bs, or at least w/ limited good-natured bs.
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I agree, it was fantastic. Haven't seen the 9:30 Coub with that kind of energy in a long time. And I say that even with the group of 10 or so aging frat guys to my right being kinda stupid about the show.
The floor, by the start of the show, was sopping wet with beer -- I thought that was great on a Sunday night! The 'mosh pit' was the entire front section of the audience, and the band was excellent. I thought I'd probably enjoy the show, but I was really surprised at how tight it all was. They played for an hour, well worth the money.
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Originally posted by jadetree:
Great show, and best of all I get to relive it today with my aches and pains and ringing ears, was a lot of fun on the floor.
DAMN Jadetree if you got bumped by someone with a ROCKIES shirt on that was me, and i appologize for it now. :D
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
. Now if the original PIL would tour I would be in heaven.
Dude, i'd pay 200 bucks to see that show!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Guiny:
Originally posted by Sir HC:
. Now if the original PIL would tour I would be in heaven.
Dude, i'd pay 200 bucks to see that show!!!!!!! [/b]
I almost saw PiL 4 times, 3 times they showed up, once (at the Ontario Theater over on Columbia by Adams Morgan) they didn't show up before our high-school butts had to leave. Never saw the real lineup just Johnny and some hired guns. Still were great, would love to have seen Second Edition with Jah and Keith.
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Anarchy in D.C.
By Scott Galupo
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
For a brief moment Sunday night, it was anarchy in the District. John Lydon, professionally known as Johnny Rotten, had contemptuously shooed away the 9:30 Club's front line of bouncer brawn, the only thing standing between a very hyper sell-out crowd and the Sex Pistols, the grandfathers of punk rock.
"You don't need protecting from me," said Mr. Lydon in his snide working-class English brogue, "I'm on your side."
Then the crowd surfers, male and female, giddy with adrenaline and alcohol, started tumbling perilously close to the stage, into the unwelcoming arms of the re-employed bouncers.
Turns out, it was only pretend anarchy.
Whatever it was â?? a hypocritical grab at reunion-tour cash, or just deserts for a truly revolutionary band that was swindled by the record industry â?? the Pistols were a triumph of loud, raw, jagged rage: of a collective middle finger extended at permanency and tradition, of amps turned to 11.
The band made only one studio album, "Never Mind the Bollocks Here's the Sex Pistols," but it was the only one they needed to change the face of a very bloated and self-satisfied music industry in 1977.
Imagine the era, dominated as it was by the Vegas glam of Elton John and the corporate lite-rock of West Coasters such as Jackson Browne and the Eagles, and appreciate anew how the simple, nasty, primal crunch of three-chord punk brought rock music back to its roots, if not its senses.
The Pistols performed "Bollocks" in its entirety, plus a B-side Stooges cover ("No Fun"), in a crisp one-hour set that began punctually at 9:30.
The state of so-called punk music today was very much on Mr. Lydon's mind Sunday night. "You might know who we are," he said as the band took the stage, drawing huge cheers before the Pistols â?? guitarist Steve Jones, drummer Paul Cook and bassist Glen Matlock â?? picked up their instruments.
After throwing an expletive-laden jab at "post-punk" rock, the singer, dressed in a muscle T-shirt and black workout pants with the pocket linings spilling out, Mr. Lydon said, "We're the real deal, we ain't fake."
And so the Pistols would prove.
They opened with "Bodies," a thrasher that may or may not express the pro-life sentiments of Mr. Lydon, an Irishman raised Catholic ("Throbbing squirm / gurgling bloody mess / I'm not a discharge / I'm not a loss in protein").
"Seventeen," the ode to callous narcissism "No Feelings" and the nihilistic "God Save the Queen" ("No future, no future") quickly followed.
Between each song came Mr. Lydon's salty, hilarious banter, most of which can't be repeated in a family newspaper.
"If you clap a little less provocatively," he said, knocking back a bottle of brandy, "we can go home early. And believe me, we will."
The famously temperamental Mr. Lydon was not disbelieved, and the clapping remained provocative.
As the band churned tightly behind him, Mr. Lydon prowled his space of the stage, leaning into the audience with a bug-eyed stare and, often, snorting fluid from his nose.
Mr. Jones, meanwhile, had his back to the audience for most of the set, the better to hear his ear-splitting stack of amps straight on, instead of through a chintzy stage monitor.
Though he looked like a demon incarnate, Mr. Lydon has said it's severe myopia that accounts for his glassy facial contortions. No telling, though, what causes the sinus condition.
True to his punky philosophy of creative destruction, Mr. Lydon introduced "a little ditty," the "Bollocks"-closing "EMI," saying: "While the music industry is on its last legs, let's kick it to death."
After a two-song encore that included the punk anthem "Anarchy in the U.K." and "Problems," Mr. Lydon took another jab at punk poseurs: "Anybody can do this punk rock, right?" â?? and then disgustedly tossed his microphone.
The mic hit the floor, sending a discordant thump over the PA system.
That was the last note of the show â?? a very punk-rock thing to do.
But Johnny Rotten invented this stuff, and the Sex Pistols, the first of the British punk commandos who charged across the enemy lines of the mainstream in the late '70s, deserve the rights of their patent.
Are they the antichrist? Anarchists?
After this, their second reunion tour (it follows 1996's proudly cynical Filthy Lucre outing), what future is there in being the Sex Pistols?
There is no future; there is no point. And that is their point.
http://washingtontimes.com/entertainment/20030825-091754-6267r.htm (http://washingtontimes.com/entertainment/20030825-091754-6267r.htm)
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I do believe he was actually at the show! nice review or rather report of the evenings events.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
I do believe he was actually at the show! nice review or rather report of the evenings events.
yes indeed.
he did miss Belson was a gas though.
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Finally, an accurate review......What a great show!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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For a brief moment Sunday night, it was anarchy in the District. John Lydon, professionally known as Johnny Rotten, had contemptuously shooed away the 9:30 Club's front line of bouncer brawn, the only thing standing between a very hyper sell-out crowd and the Sex Pistols, the grandfathers of punk rock.
"You don't need protecting from me," said Mr. Lydon in his snide working-class English brogue, "I'm on your side."
Then the crowd surfers, male and female, giddy with adrenaline and alcohol, started tumbling perilously close to the stage, into the unwelcoming arms of the re-employed bouncers.
Turns out, it was only pretend anarchy.
that last line sums it up for me. it was all schtick. their security guard (the man that requested the barricade staph on behalf of the band) told me ahead of time that we were probably going to be shooed out of the barricade. hell, he was "kicked out" of there too. it's all part of the act.
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Originally posted by thatguy:
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it's all part of the act. [/b]
did you or anyone actually speak to Johnny? I always wondered what he was really like.
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
did you or anyone actually speak to Johnny? I always wondered what he was really like.
my interactions with mr. lydon:
before the show, he approached me at the alley, introduced himself and his personal security, and told me that if i had any questions or anything that i shouldn't hesitate to ask either of them.
during the show, you saw how he addressed me and the barricade crew.
after the show, he got off of the bus, shoved me out of the way, and said "get the fuck outta my way, i'm going to sign some autographs."
after the fans were gone, he thanked me for my help and said goodnight.
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So what you're saying is he's only a dickweed in front of the fans, when they're not around he's really quite normal...with his nice shiney false teeth and all..
Just as I imagined...a big fucking sell-out!
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thanks thatguy, I appreciate that.
Really just as I had hoped, would you really wanted him to have been snarely and angry all the time? Its much better as an act. Sounds like a shame he didnt do some films.
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Did anyone not think it was an act?
They've always been an act -- a particularly entertaining one.
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Sorry, I meant to put a ;) after my last comment. Of course it's an act, nobody could go through life that angry and exist...except me of course. ;)
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Did anyone not think it was an act?
eye, but there is a difference between thinking, and getting a first hand account. Its really nice to know.
how about some of the others?
were Sid Viscose and Jonny thunders acting?
what about Joe Strummers 5 years of living in a bedsit? was that an act?
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I want to know what was in the big bottle he kept swilling from.
I'm guessing it was tea.
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No, that's the actions of a wealthy kid slumming. He just happened to write good songs. As for Rotten, that guy's a clown and Sid Vicious was a fashion victim.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
what about Joe Strummers 5 years of living in a bedsit? was that an act?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I want to know what was in the big bottle he kept swilling from.
I'm guessing it was tea.
he always spat it all straight out.
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I want to know what was in the big bottle he kept swilling from.
I'm guessing it was tea.
he always spat it all straight out. [/b]
That's because you can't get a proper cup'o tea in America.....
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what i'm saying is that was my interaction with the man. other people had different experiences, and i heard about a couple of hissy fit type events, but i didn't personally witness them.
i've noticed over the 9 or so years that i've been doing security that people behave differently when speaking to me. artists that everyone else in the club has trouble with seem to be nice to me. not always, but often.
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Originally posted by thirsty moore:
No, that's the actions of a wealthy kid slumming. He just happened to write good songs. As for Rotten, that guy's a clown and Sid Vicious was a fashion victim.
so that leaves Thunders and let me add Hell, to debunk.
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Originally posted by thatguy:
i heard about a couple of hissy fit type events, but i didn't personally witness them.
do you think they could be persuaded to ellaborate? Or can you just add to the myth with some dodgy second hand accounts?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
That's because you can't get a proper cup'o tea in America..... [/b]
NO SHIT! ..history revisionists will tell you it was really the Brits who threw all that tea in Boston Harbour because you barbarians didn't deserve to have it, fucking up a perfectly cuppa like you do!
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They had interviews with him in the PBS history of Rock music, and he seemed a very intelligent thoughtful guy. I guessed it was attitude but I didn't get to meet him. The crew were great and love the tour, so the band can't be that big of assholes.
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Originally posted by thirsty moore:
No, that's the actions of a wealthy kid slumming. He just happened to write good songs. As for Rotten, that guy's a clown and Sid Vicious was a fashion victim.
so that leaves Thunders and let me add Hell, to debunk. [/b]
Thunders was really an accountant from Weehawken.
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Hahaha, well done GGW.
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
do you think they could be persuaded to ellaborate? Or can you just add to the myth with some dodgy second hand accounts?
don't know if any of those that had stories post or read here. no dodgy second hand accounts from me, though.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Thunders was really an accountant from Weehawken.
you lost me there.
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Originally posted by thatguy:
don't know if any of those that had stories post or read here. no dodgy second hand accounts from me, though. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Tease, Can't you persuade someone to type a couple of lines?
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Weehawken's in Jersey.
Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
you lost me there.
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Tease, Can't you persuade someone to type a couple of lines?
i can ask, but i make no promises. i'm off to the beach soon.
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My guess is go to the next Brock show and chat with his crew. They might have some stories to tell...
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Originally posted by thatguy:
i can ask, but i make no promises. i'm off to the beach soon.
That is very cool of you, thanks.
Have a fun time at the beach.
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I can't let this moment go without telling my favourite Bernard Manning "large person on the beach" joke.
"Will Thatguy please get off the beach because the tide wants to come in"
No offense thatguy...I tell it about myself everytime I go on a beach.. :D
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Josh, if you don't mind my asking, which beach are you going to? There is a slight chance that I may go very soon too and was wondering whether or not to keep a ThatGuy alert out.
Hope you have a great time and good weather! :D
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rehoboth. i'm back now. don't bother looking for me there.