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Title: mankie gets dsl
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 26, 2003, 02:39:00 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3177479.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3177479.stm)
 
 Dyke to open up BBC archive
 
 
 Greg Dyke, director general of the BBC, has announced plans to give the public full access to all the corporation's programme archives.
 Mr Dyke said on Sunday that everyone would in future be able to download BBC radio and TV programmes from the internet.
 
 The service, the BBC Creative Archive, would be free and available to everyone, as long as they were not intending to use the material for commercial purposes, Mr Dyke added.
 
 "The BBC probably has the best television library in the world," said Mr Dyke, who was speaking at the Edinburgh TV Festival.
 
 "Up until now this huge resource has remained locked up, inaccessible to the public because there hasn't been an effective mechanism for distribution.
 
 "But the digital revolution and broadband are changing all that.
 
 "For the first time there is an easy and affordable way of making this treasure trove of BBC content available to all."
 
 He predicted that everyone would benefit from the online archive, from people accessing the internet at home, children and adults using public libraries, to students at school and university.
 
 Future focus
 
 Mr Dyke appeared at the TV festival to give the Richard Dunn interview, one of the main events of the three-day industry event.
 
 He said the new online service was part of the corporation's future, or "second phase", strategy for the development of digital technology.
 
 Mr Dyke said he believed this second phase would see a shift of emphasis by broadcasters.
 
 Their focus would move away from commercial considerations to providing "public value", he said.
 
 "I believe that we are about to move into a second phase of the digital revolution, a phase which will be more about public than private value; about free, not pay services; about inclusivity, not exclusion.
 
 "In particular, it will be about how public money can be combined with new digital technologies to transform everyone's lives."
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: MaLo on August 26, 2003, 02:42:00 pm
d!<k sucking lips?
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: markie on August 26, 2003, 03:00:00 pm
Well I dont know about Mankie, but Markie got DSL on Sunday.
 
 It is super quick. I wish I had done it years ago.
 
 BBC does host some of its shows, panorama, it's topical news debate scare storey programme is rather watchable if only for the dishy Jeremy Paxman.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: Bags on August 26, 2003, 03:22:00 pm
Markie, did you do research on the best package to get?  I think I need to step up to the DSL plate myself.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: markie on August 26, 2003, 03:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by bags:
  Markie, did you do research on the best package to get?  I think I need to step up to the DSL plate myself.
verizon:
 
 1 month free
 2 months at $30
 $35 a month thereafter.
 
 you have to have a verizon phone service already and I had to wait two weeks for them to set it up.
 
 It was as cheaper than any other, plus if you cancel after less than a year all you have to do is send the modem back.  No fees. Crucial for me and my tenuous existance.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: emmitotter on August 26, 2003, 03:50:00 pm
I had Verizon DSL a few months agao and it was worse than dial-up.  Ended up canceling and getting Cable Internet from Comcast the Devil.  Cable Internet is so much better than DSL in my experience.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: markie on August 26, 2003, 04:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by emmitotter:
  worse than dial-up.  
You have me worried now. What happened?
 
 2 days in and its working great for me. Their phone tech support was really helpful too.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: emmitotter on August 26, 2003, 04:04:00 pm
It was just so slow and would not work half the time.  Tech support was helpful, I agree but they could never fix the problem.  Maybe I just had bad luck!
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: markie on August 26, 2003, 04:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by emmitotter:
  It was just so slow and would not work half the time.  Tech support was helpful, I agree but they could never fix the problem.  Maybe I just had bad luck!
How long ago was this?
 
 were you using USB or ethernet?
 
 A google search for "verizon dsl sucks" gets lots of hits, most people are griping at the length of time set up took. Hardly anyone complains it wasnt good once it was up and running.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: Jaguär on August 27, 2003, 03:30:00 am
Broadband is the way to go! Especially if you use a lot of media rich sites or are online for fair amounts of time. It's not the cheapest but it ends up working out to being the cost of internet with an extra unlimited phone line, which an internet junkie would need anyway. I find it very worthwhile and the only way to go.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 27, 2003, 09:11:00 am
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Originally posted by emmitotter:
  I had Verizon DSL a few months agao and it was worse than dial-up.  Ended up canceling and getting Cable Internet from Comcast the Devil.  Cable Internet is so much better than DSL in my experience.
AMEN!!! I hate my Verizon DSL.  its crap and sometimes its slow and sometimes its not so slow. I can download stuff pretty quick, but its just general CRAP.  And i have to pay $35 a month, plus $15 a month for a phone line, cause i dont need one for a phone.  So Comcast is $10 cheaper and cable is way better than DSL...hopefully, i can get a cable modem in my neighborhood soon..
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: jadetree on August 27, 2003, 09:21:00 am
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
  cable is way better than DSL...hopefully, i can get a cable modem in my neighborhood soon..
easy there folks, it is one thing to say Verizon DSL is crap, but Cable is not better than DSL, there is more than just Verizon DSL
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: Joymonster on August 27, 2003, 09:28:00 am
I think Verizon DSL only offers speed up to 768kbs for $34.99 a month. They do have a premium package that offers a download speed at 1.5mbps for $59.99.
 
 Comcast on the other hand currently offers 1.5mbps at $42.95 a month. Comcast will also offer a 3.0mbps service early next year.
 
 I've used Verizon DSL, Comcast, and Direct TV's internet services. If you can get it, internet cable is the cheapest and most reliable without a doubt.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 27, 2003, 09:36:00 am
i use earthlink dsl and have been happy, don't know the specs.  the problem with cable modems is that if you have several users in the same neighborhood on downloading naughty pics at the same time, the speed decreases.  i also don't like giving comcast anymore money...
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: mankie on August 27, 2003, 10:04:00 am
I have verizon DSL...the service itself is pretty good, but like other's have said, set up is a bastard...and the help desk folk are usually about as knowledgable as I am at this techie stuff.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: vansmack on August 27, 2003, 12:49:00 pm
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Originally posted by Member 656:
  Comcast on the other hand currently offers 1.5mbps at $42.95 a month. Comcast will also offer a 3.0mbps service early next year.
 
 I've used Verizon DSL, Comcast, and Direct TV's internet services. If you can get it, internet cable is the cheapest and most reliable without a doubt.
Be careful, cable modem is shared bandwidth, so when they advertise 10 MB per second, that's if no one else is on at the same time.  Otherwise it's 10 MB per second shared access.  DSL on the other hand, is your own line so you don't share bandwidth.  I'd go with a DSL that guaranteed a minimum speed.
 
 The truth is both are relatively new technologies and are down sometimes.
 
 I've had both Starpower Cable modem and Verizon DSL and they were about the same in the long run.  Once the service is up and running, it generally works fine.  Sometimes, it takes a while to get the service running at peak.  
 
 I waited a year and a half for Comcast to get Cable modem in my area, and they never had it before I moved to SF, so don't hold your breath.
 
 I tried DirecTV Broadband, which is fast on the download, but very slow on the uptake.
 
 The best thing to do is sign up with a cable company, then get cable modem, then cancel cable TV - they can't turn it off so you get free cable with your cable modem.  Or, buy a cable modem and use it with you Digital cable TV (if you must have a box for Fox Sprots World and BBC America) - in my experience, they haven't been able to turn off either if you only have one.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: markie on August 27, 2003, 12:53:00 pm
Thanks Vansmack. I wish you had told me all of that before.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: vansmack on August 27, 2003, 12:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
   but Markie got DSL on Sunday.
 
 
It's about fucking time!  Maybe you can answer your phone now and again....
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 27, 2003, 01:03:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 
 The best thing to do is sign up with a cable company, then get cable modem, then cancel cable TV - they can't turn it off so you get free cable with your cable modem.  Or, buy a cable modem and use it with you Digital cable TV (if you must have a box for Fox Sprots World and BBC America) - in my experience, they haven't been able to turn off either if you only have one.
a cautionary tale about persuing this practice
 
  Comcast has lawyers too (http://massis.lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives/archives/security-fraud/judy-sammel-incident.html)
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: vansmack on August 27, 2003, 01:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  a cautionary tale about persuing this practice
 
  Comcast has lawyers too (http://massis.lcs.mit.edu/telecom-archives/archives/security-fraud/judy-sammel-incident.html)
I've done it twice with Comcast and numerous times with Starpower, however, since they will eventually figure out how to stop this, I signed up with DSL in SF because I signed up for DirecTV instead of cable and I was experiencing slow speeds with shared cable modem - probably a lot of jackasses were stealing it!
 
 So Markie, revel in doing the right thing.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: markie on August 27, 2003, 01:19:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 So Markie, revel in doing the right thing.
Yea, I guess so. The only bad thing is now all sorts of Jackasses call me  :p
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 27, 2003, 01:29:00 pm
and its just NOW that i realize Anton = Markie
 
   lol. and i thought you Brits were multiplying.
 
 i should pay more attention eh?
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: on August 27, 2003, 01:30:00 pm
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Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: markie on August 27, 2003, 01:35:00 pm
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   eh?
Is that a Canadian, "eh?"
 
 Jeez sonic, I thought you were better than that.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 27, 2003, 02:46:00 pm
i think it might be a canadian "eh"  although i never say it, i type it always
   i think The Music's disc has been burned into my head so that i cant think straight.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: Joymonster on August 27, 2003, 04:21:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Member 656:
  Comcast on the other hand currently offers 1.5mbps at $42.95 a month. Comcast will also offer a 3.0mbps service early next year.
 
 I've used Verizon DSL, Comcast, and Direct TV's internet services. If you can get it, internet cable is the cheapest and most reliable without a doubt.
Be careful, cable modem is shared bandwidth, so when they advertise 10 MB per second, that's if no one else is on at the same time.  Otherwise it's 10 MB per second shared access.  DSL on the other hand, is your own line so you don't share bandwidth.  I'd go with a DSL that guaranteed a minimum speed.
 
 The truth is both are relatively new technologies and are down sometimes.
 
 I've had both Starpower Cable modem and Verizon DSL and they were about the same in the long run.  Once the service is up and running, it generally works fine.  Sometimes, it takes a while to get the service running at peak.  
 
 I waited a year and a half for Comcast to get Cable modem in my area, and they never had it before I moved to SF, so don't hold your breath.
 
 I tried DirecTV Broadband, which is fast on the download, but very slow on the uptake.
 
 The best thing to do is sign up with a cable company, then get cable modem, then cancel cable TV - they can't turn it off so you get free cable with your cable modem.  Or, buy a cable modem and use it with you Digital cable TV (if you must have a box for Fox Sprots World and BBC America) - in my experience, they haven't been able to turn off either if you only have one. [/b]
Outside of networking with my router, I've never had a problem of slowdown with the Comcast cable connection. With DSL, I had to use signal boosters and change my browser since Microsoft claims that Windows isn't designed for high-speed capabilities.
Title: Re: mankie gets dsl
Post by: MAXX44 on August 27, 2003, 11:28:00 pm
my earthlink DSL is great.....fast , never down and it is NOT a shared line, unlike cable modem....