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Title: now i can bitch
Post by: walkonby on September 29, 2007, 10:28:00 am
ok, i've listened and stood my ground with ticketmaster, claiming they were a great service that gave me great tickets to great shows.  but now they have broke the back of being nice.  i just attempted to get tickets at 10 am today.  the artist did not have a pre-sale / fan base giveaway of tickets before this show went on sale.  when the tickets did go on sale, i was there, on the second of 10 am.  there were NO center section orch seats available, only the seats pressed against the wall starting with row F and balcony . . . at the second they go on sale.  and then i find out that "SOMEONE" is selling front row tickets to the show on stubhubb for $400 each.  front row wasn't available to the public.
 
 ticketmaster blocks off the best seats for stubhubb and their own auction site before they go on sale.  my partner and i are so pissed at this, my hands are shaking.  i have made a pact to never see another concert that ticketmaster sells the tickts to.  at least i can go to the club.  i have to sell my dinosaur jr. ticket.
 
 now i understand.  sorry it took this long, eddie v.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: TimCooke on September 29, 2007, 11:23:00 am
I'm sorry you couldn't get your Hannah Montana Tickets
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: Samantha on September 29, 2007, 11:43:00 am
okay that made me snort
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on September 29, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
Yes, ticketmaster just hands over tickets to stubhub. Your ignorance on how ticketmaster, stubhub, and "advance" ticket sales work only belies the stupidity of your post.    :roll:
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: TimCooke on September 29, 2007, 01:19:00 pm
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Originally posted by Samantha:
  okay that made me snort
I was actually going for a full snarf with soda through the nose.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: walkonby on September 29, 2007, 01:51:00 pm
i was trying for annie lennox.  115 dollars each.  that's why they cut off a chunk of the best seats.  people who like annie lennox, more than likely will pay whatever to see her.  just like bruce and van halen.  just makes me upset that they do this for some acts and other acts i've had no problems getting primo seats with the general public on sale, just like everyone else has a fair chance.  but my inner snit is over.  i got front row to see dark star orch. in frederick.  
 
 and besides, only a true fag would know that hannah whomever even went on sale today.    ;)
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: sweetcell on September 29, 2007, 01:56:00 pm
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Originally posted by walkonby:
 just makes me upset that they do this for some acts and other acts i've had no problems getting primo seats with the general public on sale, just like everyone else has a fair chance.  but my inner snit is over.  i got front row to see dark star orch. in frederick.
so as long as you get front row you're a fanboy, but as soon as you strike out it's a corporate conspiracy?  newsflash: you're not going to get killah seats everytime, especially for a show in demand.  every now and then, even the best strike out.  deal with it, stop whining that the pitcher must be cheating   :)  
 
 my main complaint about TM is surcharges.  tickets to QOTSA in philly tonight are $25 face... but snag a pair on TM and you're charged $77 total - more than a 50% mark-up, it's like paying for a third f*cking ticket that you don't get.  unacceptable.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: walkonby on September 29, 2007, 02:05:00 pm
i said my snit was over sweetness.  and yes, don't you find yourself elated when you get your way, and upset when you don't.
 
 it does seem strange though that when i went on at ten, there were no center section seats in the front orch available.  not a one.  except on stubhubb.  the same thing happened when i tried to get cure seats.  no front section floor seats.  except on stubhubb, when they went on sale.  just saying it's a strange, julian.  no need to be rough and toughy.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: Firebutt McGee on September 29, 2007, 02:10:00 pm
Not to shit on your rant or anything, but I tried for the Annie tickets this morning and managed to get a pair of 10th row on the left. Just saying...
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: walkonby on September 29, 2007, 02:32:00 pm
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Originally posted by ixkpd-bk:
  Not to shit on your rant or anything, but I tried for the Annie tickets this morning and managed to get a pair of 10th row on the left. Just saying... [/QUOTE
 
 there were plenty of right and left orch available . . . but not a single, front section center.  they started the sale at row e left, or at aa center (which is middle orch).  so your shit is not smelly at all.  i was just bitching because, for 115 each, i wanted a halfway good seat that wasn't against the far left or right side.  i like to bitch sometimes.  i am bitch sometimes.  but i worship great seats all the time.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: bnyced0 on September 29, 2007, 02:41:00 pm
I was able to get center row F, and I was on about the same time you were.  The first couple of things that came up I blew off, then accepted CTR Row F once it became apparent things weren't going to get any better.  
 
 But as bad as Ticketbastard is, did it occur to you that you weren't the only one with an internet connection trying to get tickets to a popular artist playing at a small venue. And they too were paying $115 and wanted good seats?  If anything the students at GWU were able to get better tix at a discount $50, should we hate them too?
 
 I understand your frustration, but you have to be kidding with this right?
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: walkonby on September 29, 2007, 02:52:00 pm
dammit . . . i was just waiting for someone to say they got one of the tickets, to totally spoil my conspiracy.  i forgot about the fact the gw students probably had a good shot at the better seats first.  i leaped before i looked.  
 
 may the line now form to hit me.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: Samantha on September 29, 2007, 03:29:00 pm
No no life isn't fair.  It is true.  Things like this suck.  The others may want to rip you a new one for bitching but I believe it is your right.  That sucked, that really did.  And it feels better to bitch.  So please, sir, go right ahead.
 
 But goddamn if that Hannah Montana crack isn't still killing me.  Beautiful.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: vansmack on September 29, 2007, 03:59:00 pm
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Originally posted by walkonby:
 now i understand.  sorry it took this long, eddie v.
Oh I see, now that it effected you personally you change your mind on the Ticketmaster?  Well fuck you ticketmaster lover - you deserve it!  
 
 For all the times you told people on this board to stop their crying and to grow up, well guess what -  I hope they screw you over again.  And again.  And again.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: walkonby on September 29, 2007, 04:44:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by walkonby:
 now i understand.  sorry it took this long, eddie v.
Oh I see, now that it effected you personally you change your mind on the Ticketmaster?  Well fuck you ticketmaster lover - you deserve it!  
 
 For all the times you told people on this board to stop their crying and to grow up, well guess what -  I hope they screw you over again.  And again.  And again. [/b]
i was waiting for your chimes to be moving in the entire time i was ranting.  you never disappoint, vandownbytheriver.  you missed a few agains . . . i was almost there.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: vansmack on September 29, 2007, 05:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by walkonby:
  i was waiting for your chimes to be moving in the entire time i was ranting.  you never disappoint, vandownbytheriver.
Glad I didn't disappoint you...
 
 There's always E-Bay for monopoly supporters like you...
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 01, 2007, 03:37:00 pm
I didn't realize Hannah Montana was THIS popular (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/01/music.hannah.montana.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview)
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: vansmack on October 01, 2007, 03:57:00 pm
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Originally posted by bearman:
  I didn't realize Hannah Montana was THIS popular (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/01/music.hannah.montana.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview)
I have a 7 year old niece.  I could have told you that she was at least that popular....
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 01, 2007, 04:33:00 pm
I don't know any kids, so all of this is foreign to me...but if I were a parent, I think the first show I'd take my kids to see is Social D.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 02, 2007, 03:31:00 am
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Originally posted by bearman:
  I didn't realize Hannah Montana was THIS popular (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/01/music.hannah.montana.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview)
Tweens are taking over.
 
 Last I checked High School Musical 2 soundtrack was number 1 in the charts.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: Vas Deferens on October 02, 2007, 07:09:00 am
Jens Lekman same night. Should be 100 million times better than Annie Lennox.  :)
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: walkonby on October 02, 2007, 10:10:00 am
now i can never bitch about any of them.  i wonder if neil young knows that stubhubb had five sets of orch seats to his dar show for 300 - 500 dollars before they even went on the first pre-sale this morning from his o wn website?  i give up.  nothing better than seeing "there are no tickets available" the moment they go on sale.  what's the point of going on sale?
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on October 02, 2007, 10:18:00 am
Neil Young don't care. He's sitting in his California mansion having a laugh about it all. He's probably got a cut on those stubhub tickets.
 
   
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Originally posted by walkonby:
  now i can never bitch about any of them.  i wonder if neil young knows that stubhubb had five sets of orch seats to his dar show for 300 - 500 dollars before they even went on the first pre-sale this morning from his o wn website?  i give up.  nothing better than seeing "there are no tickets available" the moment they go on sale.  what's the point of going on sale?
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: TheDirector217 on October 02, 2007, 10:40:00 am
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Originally posted by walkonby:
  now i can never bitch about any of them.  i wonder if neil young knows that stubhubb had five sets of orch seats to his dar show for 300 - 500 dollars before they even went on the first pre-sale this morning from his o wn website?  i give up.  nothing better than seeing "there are no tickets available" the moment they go on sale.  what's the point of going on sale?
I know you can't possibly be naive enough to believe that all seats (9:30 being exempt from this - I'm pretty sure/I hope) go to the fans.  This shit is BIG business.  I always had an idea what went on, but if I REALLY told you what goes on, you'd be dumbfounded.  I somewhat recently *ahem* "met" a nice young lady that works for TicketMaster, & after feeding her some Grey Goose & other liquid afro-disiacs she actually told me the truth about what really happens to killer tickets at shows.  Most of which I knew, but 1 or 2 things which really fucked my head up.  Bad.  
 
 But I say all that to say this.  The decline of the music biz, not happenstance I assure you, happened to coincide with the emergence of the Internet.  This is directly proportional to the steep rise in concert tickets prices in the past 5 years or so.  ANYthing which proves lucrative WILL over time be corrupted.  Especially when said pecuniary opportunity is run across on a reactive as opposed to proactive basis.  Basically anyone with a computer, free time, some saavy, & knowledge of on-sales can for all intensive purposes become a ticket broker.  To the point that now (remember when I said REactive as opposed to PROactive?) even TicketMaster themselves have resorted to scalping under the guise of "Ticket Exchanges & Auctions".  I laugh.  Ha.  So more or less, pony up to stay on the wagon or hop off & get the fuck out the way.  Less tickets are out there for you, & the prices are going up.  It's not changing any time soon & the best case scenario you can hope for is a plateau in pricing at this point.   Especially with the record climate what it is today, bands are making a lion's share of their money on the road & through merch.  But with record companies' bottom line being affected worse than ever, the labels are now even asking for a cut of tour money (I repeat. REactive as opposed to PROactive.) It is what it is . . .
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: TheDirector217 on October 02, 2007, 10:43:00 am
Wrong again.  Artists usually aren't even involved.  It's the tour managers who are making those back door/under the table deals.  Trust me.  I could do a dissertation on this shit.  See above post ^^^^^^ . . . .
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Neil Young don't care. He's sitting in his California mansion having a laugh about it all. He's probably got a cut on those stubhub tickets.
 
   
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Originally posted by walkonby:
  now i can never bitch about any of them.  i wonder if neil young knows that stubhubb had five sets of orch seats to his dar show for 300 - 500 dollars before they even went on the first pre-sale this morning from his o wn website?  i give up.  nothing better than seeing "there are no tickets available" the moment they go on sale.  what's the point of going on sale?
[/b]
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on October 02, 2007, 10:50:00 am
I think this calls for a Congressional investigation, as they are setting a bad example for the youth of America.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 02, 2007, 11:10:00 am
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Originally posted by walkonby:
 
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Originally posted by ixkpd-bk:
  Not to shit on your rant or anything, but I tried for the Annie tickets this morning and managed to get a pair of 10th row on the left. Just saying... [/QUOTE
 
 there were plenty of right and left orch available . . . but not a single, front section center.  they started the sale at row e left, or at aa center (which is middle orch).  so your shit is not smelly at all.  i was just bitching because, for 115 each, i wanted a halfway good seat that wasn't against the far left or right side.  i like to bitch sometimes.  i am bitch sometimes.  but i worship great seats all the time. [/b]
For $115 I'd fully expect a blowjob from Annie herself!!
 
 I just got an email telling me about Annie Lennox in Miami and was just thinking how much I'd like to see her but Miami is nearly 2 hours away. Now I know how much the tickets are she can fuck off.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: TheDirector217 on October 02, 2007, 11:44:00 am
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I think this calls for a Congressional investigation, as they are setting a bad example for the youth of America.
They don't give a fuck.  Trust that.  The mecca of concerts ($$$$ wise, anyway) NYC has (or is about to) actually make scalping LEGAL.  Lemme put y'all up on game right quick:
 
 Dirty Little Secret #1: The Van Halen Tour
 
 The first 15 rows (depending on the venue up to twenty-something) on the floor of this tour aren't really effectively even available to the general public price wise.   Base price for floors shows on Ticket Master/Live Nation as around $149, give or take $20 depending on the city.  (NYC, Chi, LA, Vegas, etc. are always more than other cities.)  Now if those seats aren't available, one asks where the fuck did they go???  Good question, fam.  Here's your answer . . .
 
 Instead of a laissez faire   :roll:   type deal, here's what pops off.  For the robust price of anywhere from $495 - $795 depending on your city(that's per ticket BTW), one can purchase what is referred to as the 4 star Van Halen package.  Which includes 1 seat SOMEWHERE (they don't tell you until the day of the show) in the 1st 20 rows.  Oh, and they're nice enough to give you a Van Halen key chain/T-shirt, Van Halen test tube or some shit of that nature.  But that package sounds a lil' fishy, right????  Glad you asked.  That's why there's a 5 star package.  For the conservative pricing of $750 - $1000.  Per ticket of course.  This includes:
 
 
 A reserved seat inside the ramp! (Somewhere, as they don't tell you until the day of the show)Van Halen 5 Star souvenir laminate!
 Backstage tour!
 Pre-show party!
 Exclusive Van Halen gift bag!
 Crowd-free merchandise shopping! (A wait-free line so you can spend MORE money)
 Parking (where available)
 
 You will be required to sign a waiver and release of liability.
 
 And absolutely NO GUARANTEE of meeting the band.  
 
 So one may ask.  If the 1st 20 rows got blocked off, how about the other 6 letters of alphabet???Glad you asked.  Those go to the wonderful folks at Ticket Master.  The last 6 or so rows (depending on the venue/city maybe less) go to the "auction" which is designed to "give you the comsumer a value on premium seating".  i.e. Read: Scalpers/Brokers are getting their cut & we want some too.  And of course, people are so gassed up by the prospect of a Van Halen reunion w/ Diamond Dave, that seats in the teens to 20 some rows back on the floor are getting sold by Ticket Master for about $390 - upwards of a yard ($1K) a pop.  Then throw in the fact that Citibank is a sponsor on the tour, & if you use one of their cards, then you get 1st crack at the lower bowl seats right by the stage.  2 sections each side of the stage to be exact.  Meaning Joe & Jill fan's best seats in the lower bowl on the primary market start realistically in damn near the middle of the arena. Nostalgia's lucrative than a bitch, huh???  
 
 Oh, and no.  Those prices and/or tickets do not include anal lube and/or Vaseline.
 
 YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
 
    <img src="http://intheouter.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/img_fewgoodmen.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on October 02, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
I blame it all on this guy:
 
   <img src="http://www.netwalk.com/~truegger/ftrh/Mikey1.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: bnyced0 on October 02, 2007, 12:21:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I blame it all on this guy:
 
    <img src="http://www.netwalk.com/~truegger/ftrh/Mikey1.jpg" alt=" - " />
He hooked me up when Van Halen opened up for Eddie Money so I have nothing but love for him...
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: walkonby on October 02, 2007, 01:49:00 pm
good lord and gravy biscuits; i just read an article about this billy ray cyrus daughter and the phenom. she is creating.  ticketscalpers set new records for resell prices of her tickets (one went for $2500.00!).  people are "finally taking notice and getting fed up with the way the ticket industry is ripping off the consumer."  priceless.  go moms.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: TheREALHunter on October 02, 2007, 01:52:00 pm
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I think this calls for a Congressional investigation, as they are setting a bad example for the youth of America.
They don't give a fuck.  Trust that.  The mecca of concerts ($$$$ wise, anyway) NYC has (or is about to) actually make scalping LEGAL.  Lemme put y'all up on game right quick:
 
 Dirty Little Secret #1: The Van Halen Tour
 
 The first 15 rows (depending on the venue up to twenty-something) on the floor of this tour aren't really effectively even available to the general public price wise.   Base price for floors shows on Ticket Master/Live Nation as around $149, give or take $20 depending on the city.  (NYC, Chi, LA, Vegas, etc. are always more than other cities.)  Now if those seats aren't available, one asks where the fuck did they go???  Good question, fam.  Here's your answer . . .
 
 Instead of a laissez faire    :roll:    type deal, here's what pops off.  For the robust price of anywhere from $495 - $795 depending on your city(that's per ticket BTW), one can purchase what is referred to as the 4 star Van Halen package.  Which includes 1 seat SOMEWHERE (they don't tell you until the day of the show) in the 1st 20 rows.  Oh, and they're nice enough to give you a Van Halen key chain/T-shirt, Van Halen test tube or some shit of that nature.  But that package sounds a lil' fishy, right????  Glad you asked.  That's why there's a 5 star package.  For the conservative pricing of $750 - $1000.  Per ticket of course.  This includes:
 
 
 A reserved seat inside the ramp! (Somewhere, as they don't tell you until the day of the show)Van Halen 5 Star souvenir laminate!
 Backstage tour!
 Pre-show party!
 Exclusive Van Halen gift bag!
 Crowd-free merchandise shopping! (A wait-free line so you can spend MORE money)
 Parking (where available)
 
 You will be required to sign a waiver and release of liability.
 
 And absolutely NO GUARANTEE of meeting the band.  
 
 So one may ask.  If the 1st 20 rows got blocked off, how about the other 6 letters of alphabet???Glad you asked.  Those go to the wonderful folks at Ticket Master.  The last 6 or so rows (depending on the venue/city maybe less) go to the "auction" which is designed to "give you the comsumer a value on premium seating".  i.e. Read: Scalpers/Brokers are getting their cut & we want some too.  And of course, people are so gassed up by the prospect of a Van Halen reunion w/ Diamond Dave, that seats in the teens to 20 some rows back on the floor are getting sold by Ticket Master for about $390 - upwards of a yard ($1K) a pop.  Then throw in the fact that Citibank is a sponsor on the tour, & if you use one of their cards, then you get 1st crack at the lower bowl seats right by the stage.  2 sections each side of the stage to be exact.  Meaning Joe & Jill fan's best seats in the lower bowl on the primary market start realistically in damn near the middle of the arena. Nostalgia's lucrative than a bitch, huh???  
 
 Oh, and no.  Those prices and/or tickets do not include anal lube and/or Vaseline.
 
 YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
 
     <img src="http://intheouter.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/img_fewgoodmen.jpg" alt=" - " /> [/b]
All that info is right on their website, if you wanna play up front you gotta pay.  Or just pay $50 and enjoy the show from the upper level which is fine by me.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: eros on October 02, 2007, 02:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I blame it all on this guy:
 
    <img src="http://www.netwalk.com/~truegger/ftrh/Mikey1.jpg" alt=" - " />
Leave chokeychicken out of this!
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: TheDirector217 on October 02, 2007, 02:37:00 pm
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Originally posted by TheREALHunter:
     
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
    Oh, and no.  Those prices and/or tickets do not include anal lube and/or Vaseline.
 
 YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
 
        :roll:    board.  1st rule of show biz: There's NO such thing as bad publicity.  There's a parent in Potomac or Vienna pulling out the Black Card to ante at at least $300 a pop for little Amber & her homegirls to hit Verizon for a good time as we speak.  It all goes hand in hand.  If they weren't about greasing their pockets, they could easily pull those tickets & issue refunds.  Tom Petty & U2 have recent DOCUMENTED instances of doing so of actually going through eBay/Stubhub (which by the way, as of recently are the same company - see what I said earlier - REactive not PROactive???) & pulling those tickets back & making them available to the public again.  
 
 As far as the Van Halen, I don't think it's dirty at all.  It's just big business.  I dealt with that years ago.  I'm about as good as it gets (ask about me) when it comes to getting killer floor seats at a show.  When Van Halen went on sale for D.C., the best seats I pulled up were right of the stage Sect. 113 & 114 about 10 - 15 rows back.  I tossed that shit back.  I have other avenues I can use to get seats face or less.  The general public does not though, which all ties into the underlying theme of BIG BUSINESS, baby.  American culture is predicated upon tossing nice amounts of cake towards having a good time.  (Myself included.)  Have some friends over to watch a fight/game or your favorite Morrissey DVD????  Not without an HD bigscreen.  Party at the club for your birthday????  Not without a limo or poppin' some triple digit bottles.  Party at a bar/restaurant for drinks & good times????  Not without a triple digit bar tab.  Wanna see your favorite group live after a 20 year hiatus????  Not without paying triple digits.  Nosebleeds or floors, cause after you catch that high from the show & shake off those chicken tenders & 2 Millers you bought you're GONNA want a T-shirt.  Right?????  Boom.  Soon as you walk out towards the Red Line/your car, you just tossed a Benjamin towards the gate & the merch gross.  It's all big business.  Some people live in a fantasy world (like these dumb ass Hannah Montana parents who probably didn't blink when they paid $100 to see Bruce or a couple hundred to see The Stones when they dropped their Amber & Chase off at Aunt Mildred's house but now they wanna bitch).  I'm just laying it all out for people, that's all.  The truth hit me a while ago . . . .
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: xneverwherex on October 02, 2007, 02:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I think this calls for a Congressional investigation, as they are setting a bad example for the youth of America.
They don't give a fuck.  Trust that.  The mecca of concerts ($$$$ wise, anyway) NYC has (or is about to) actually make scalping LEGAL.  [/b]
courtesy of the garden's website. i havent noticed any changes tho and still dont see much scalping. then again im not usually in attendance at the biggest shows here. one thing i have noticed at msg shows, if you are sitting anywhere on steps outside the theater area (even if youre out of the way) security will tell you that you cant sit there.  :)  
 
 Scalping
 Please note that New York law prohibits the resale of tickets within one thousand five hundred feet from Madison Square Garden. In addition, New York law prohibits the sale of tickets to events at the Theater at Madison Square Garden for more than 20% above the price printed on the face of the ticket and prohibits the sale of tickets to events at the Arena for more than 45% above the price printed on the face of this ticket. Unlawful resale can be punishable by fine and/or imprisonment.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: TheDirector217 on October 02, 2007, 02:50:00 pm
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
   
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
     
Quote
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I think this calls for a Congressional investigation, as they are setting a bad example for the youth of America.
They don't give a fuck.  Trust that.  The mecca of concerts ($$$$ wise, anyway) NYC has (or is about to) actually make scalping LEGAL.  [/b]
courtesy of the garden's website. i havent noticed any changes tho and still dont see much scalping. then again im not usually in attendance at the biggest shows here. one thing i have noticed at msg shows, if you are sitting anywhere on steps outside the theater area (even if youre out of the way) security will tell you that you cant sit there.    :)    
 
 Scalping
 Please note that New York law prohibits the resale of tickets within one thousand five hundred feet from Madison Square Garden. In addition, New York law prohibits the sale of tickets to events at the Theater at Madison Square Garden for more than 20% above the price printed on the face of the ticket and prohibits the sale of tickets to events at the Arena for more than 45% above the price printed on the face of this ticket. Unlawful resale can be punishable by fine and/or imprisonment. [/b]
Case en point:  Bought my little brother (well, me too.  I'm a keep it funky with y'all    ;)  ) tickets too see Nas last (Friday before) Christmas @ Nokia Theater.  Had HARD tickets for the first show which were $45 face.  The second show I got approached by scalpers selling ticketfast, I will mind you, for no less than $160.  I politely implored them to kiss my ass & kept it moving . . .
 
 I can tell you for gospel fact that Police & Van Halen seats at MSG floor go for NO less than $600.  And that's a daydream figure.  Online killer rows are going for $1500, so day of at the venue a $1K at a minimum.  They want that Park Avenue money, baby!
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: xneverwherex on October 02, 2007, 03:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
   
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
     
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
     
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I think this calls for a Congressional investigation, as they are setting a bad example for the youth of America.
They don't give a fuck.  Trust that.  The mecca of concerts ($$$$ wise, anyway) NYC has (or is about to) actually make scalping LEGAL.  [/b]
courtesy of the garden's website. i havent noticed any changes tho and still dont see much scalping. then again im not usually in attendance at the biggest shows here. one thing i have noticed at msg shows, if you are sitting anywhere on steps outside the theater area (even if youre out of the way) security will tell you that you cant sit there.     :)    
 
 Scalping
 Please note that New York law prohibits the resale of tickets within one thousand five hundred feet from Madison Square Garden. In addition, New York law prohibits the sale of tickets to events at the Theater at Madison Square Garden for more than 20% above the price printed on the face of the ticket and prohibits the sale of tickets to events at the Arena for more than 45% above the price printed on the face of this ticket. Unlawful resale can be punishable by fine and/or imprisonment. [/b]
Case en point:  Bought my little brother (well, me too.  I'm a keep it funky with y'all     ;)   ) tickets too see Nas last (Friday before) Christmas @ Nokia Theater.  Had HARD tickets for the first show which were $45 face.  The second show I got approached by scalpers selling ticketfast, I will mind you, for no less than $160.  I politely implored them to kiss my ass & kept it moving . . .
 
 I can tell you for gospel fact that Police & Van Halen seats at MSG floor go for NO less than $600.  And that's a daydream figure.  Online killer rows are going for $1500, so day of at the venue a $1K at a minimum.  They want that Park Avenue money, baby! [/b]
keep in mind with seats at MSG (and i dont know how this works entirely), but my firm has seats to EVERY show there. i dont know if they buy some sort of premium pass, but if my firm has seats for every show, i guarantee plenty of other big firms, plus the i-banks and every other place prob has tickets to every show too. so those seats are not sold. im sure soon enough ill see it listed on our intraweb that someone is selling tix (its face only naturally).
 
 plus the firm has a raffle system and gives away a good chunk of the tickets. i am curious if its the same seat for everything - because we have tix for EVERY event at MSG.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on October 02, 2007, 03:15:00 pm
American culture is pathetic. i'm moving to France.
 
 
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
   American culture is predicated upon tossing nice amounts of cake towards having a good time.  (Myself included.)  Have some friends over to watch a fight/game or your favorite Morrissey DVD????  Not without an HD bigscreen.  Party at the club for your birthday????  Not without a limo or poppin' some triple digit bottles.  Party at a bar/restaurant for drinks & good times????  Not without a triple digit bar tab.  Wanna see your favorite group live after a 20 year hiatus????  Not without paying triple digits.  Nosebleeds or floors, cause after you catch that high from the show & shake off those chicken tenders & 2 Millers you bought you're GONNA want a T-shirt.  Right?????  Boom.  Soon as you walk out towards the Red Line/your car, you just tossed a Benjamin towards the gate & the merch gross.  It's all big business.  Some people live in a fantasy world (like these dumb ass Hannah Montana parents who probably didn't blink when they paid $100 to see Bruce or a couple hundred to see The Stones when they dropped their Amber & Chase off at Aunt Mildred's house but now they wanna bitch).  I'm just laying it all out for people, that's all.  The truth hit me a while ago . . . .
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: TheDirector217 on October 02, 2007, 03:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
  keep in mind with seats at MSG (and i dont know how this works entirely), but my firm has seats to EVERY show there. i dont know if they buy some sort of premium pass, but if my firm has seats for every show, i guarantee plenty of other big firms, plus the i-banks and every other place prob has tickets to every show too. so those seats are not sold. im sure soon enough ill see it listed on our intraweb that someone is selling tix (its face only naturally).
 
 plus the firm has a raffle system and gives away a good chunk of the tickets. i am curious if its the same seat for everything - because we have tix for EVERY event at MSG.
For access to some of these shows there's comped bottles of whatever you would like on me, a mix CD of Rachel    ;)   songs in the title & a new best friend in it for you.  And if you wish as a bonus, I can arrange to have your hair pulled by a male or female or your choice.  I'm just sayin' . . .
 
 My name is The Director, & I am a concert-aholic.     :confused:
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: walkonby on October 02, 2007, 03:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  American culture is pathetic. i'm moving to France.
 
   
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
   American culture is predicated upon tossing nice amounts of cake towards having a good time.  (Myself included.)  Have some friends over to watch a fight/game or your favorite Morrissey DVD????  Not without an HD bigscreen.  Party at the club for your birthday????  Not without a limo or poppin' some triple digit bottles.  Party at a bar/restaurant for drinks & good times????  Not without a triple digit bar tab.  Wanna see your favorite group live after a 20 year hiatus????  Not without paying triple digits.  Nosebleeds or floors, cause after you catch that high from the show & shake off those chicken tenders & 2 Millers you bought you're GONNA want a T-shirt.  Right?????  Boom.  Soon as you walk out towards the Red Line/your car, you just tossed a Benjamin towards the gate & the merch gross.  It's all big business.  Some people live in a fantasy world (like these dumb ass Hannah Montana parents who probably didn't blink when they paid $100 to see Bruce or a couple hundred to see The Stones when they dropped their Amber & Chase off at Aunt Mildred's house but now they wanna bitch).  I'm just laying it all out for people, that's all.  The truth hit me a while ago . . . .
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human culture is pathetic.  move to the moon.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: Bombay Chutney on October 02, 2007, 09:59:00 pm
But sometimes good things come to those who wait.  
 
 For example, if you're looking for good Police tickets  (for example, say section 2 Row M), now would be a very good time to check TM.
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: sweetcell on October 02, 2007, 10:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I blame it all on this guy:
 
     <img src="http://www.netwalk.com/~truegger/ftrh/Mikey1.jpg" alt=" - " />
Leave chokeychicken out of this! [/b]
and we have a new front-runner for post of the week!
Title: Re: now i can bitch
Post by: sweetcell on October 02, 2007, 10:41:00 pm
once upon a time, bands toured to sell albums.  now that no one is buying albums b/c of online "sharing", bands make up the revenue via release albums to sell tour tickets.  i question how "free" all that downloaded music is.
 
 
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
 courtesy of the garden's website. i havent noticed any changes tho and still dont see much scalping.
if the gardens is like any other large venue that i've been to, these rules are never enforced.  police have way too many other things to deal with, scalpers are at best asked to leave... so they cross the street.