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'Born to Run' Tops Zagat Music Survey
Tue September 23, 2003 01:43 PM ET
By Barry A. Jeckell
NEW YORK (Billboard) - Bruce Springsteen's 1975 breakthrough album "Born To Run" (Columbia) ranks No. 1 on the most popular albums list in Zagat Survey's first Music Guide.
Best known for its surveys of restaurants, hotels and other leisure pursuits in major cities, Zagat queried more than 10,000 listeners to create a list of the 1,000 top albums of all time, as well as dozens of other tallies across more than 20 genres and eight decades of music.
Four albums by the Beatles, two by U2, another by Springsteen and releases by Miles Davis and Pink Floyd round out Zagat's top-10 most popular albums.
"Born To Run," which peaked at No. 3 and spent 110 weeks on Billboard's album chart, is also on top of the rock and classic rock lists and No. 5 on Zagat's overall quality tally. Springsteen & the E Street Band rank eighth on the list of most influential artists, which is led by the Beatles.
Davis' 1959 release "Kind of Blue" (Columbia/Legacy), No. 6 on the most popular list, is the No. 1 album for overall quality and the top jazz album.
The top hip-hop album is Public Enemy's 1988 classic "It Takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back" (Def Jam). The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's 1972 set "Will the Circle Be Unbroken" leads country albums, Massive Attack's "Protection" ranks as the favorite electronica set and Howlin' Wolf's "Moanin' in the Moonlight" is at the front of the blues class.
"We knew this survey would be especially challenging since musical taste is so personal and top picks of all time stir passionate arguments," publishers Tim and Nina Zagat said in a statement. "To our delight, participants showcased their tastes with a depth of knowledge that stands up to the most critical musical ear -- these are people who know chapter and verse on their preferred genres and they avidly shared memories and associations that their favorite recordings evoke."
The Zagat survey found that fans listen to music 24 hours each week, more than five of which is conducted on computers and MP3 players. Participants spend an average $343 per year on music to stock an average collection of 516 titles; 53% download music from the Internet and 55% burn their own CDs.
Here is the top-10 of the Zagat Survey Music Guide's most popular albums list:
1. "Born To Run," Bruce Springsteen
2. "Abbey Road," the Beatles
3. "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," the Beatles
4. "The Joshua Tree," U2
5. "The White Album," The Beatles
6. "Kind of Blue," Miles Davis
7. "Darkness on the Edge of Town," Bruce Springsteen
8. "Revolver," the Beatles
9. "Dark Side of the Moon," Pink Floyd
10. "Achtung Baby," U2
Here are the Zagat Survey Music Guide's top albums by genre:
Blues: "Moanin' in the Moonlight," Howlin' Wolf
Classical: "Horowitz in Moscow," Vladimir Horowitz
Country & Western: "Will the Circle Be Unbroken," Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
Dance: "Dance Collection," Donna Summer
Electronica: "Protection," Massive Attack
Folk: "John Prine," John Prine
Funk: "Funkify Your Life," the Meters,
Hip-Hop: "It Takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back," Public Enemy
Jazz: "Kind of Blue," Miles Davis,
Kids: "The Muppet Movie" soundtrack
Musicals: "My Fair Lady" (Lerner and Loewe)
New Age: "Nouveau Flamenco," Ottmar Liebert
Pop Vocal (Contemporary): "Thriller," Michael Jackson
Pop Vocal (Traditional): "Best of the Songbooks," Ella Fitzgerald
R&B: "The Best," Luther Vandross
Rock (Overall): "Born To Run," Bruce Springsteen
Rock (Alternative): "The Joshua Tree," U2
Rock (Art/Experimental): "Dark Side of the Moon," Pink Floyd
Rock (Classic): "Born to Run," Bruce Springsteen
Rock (Garage/Underground): "Nuggets: Original Artyfacts," various
Rock (Hard/Heavy Metal): "Master of Puppets," Metallica
Rock (New Wave): "This Year's Model," Elvis Costello
Rock (Oldies): "Elvis," Elvis Presley.
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what a fucking horrible record collection that list would make.
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I think I own four of them...
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Originally posted by Bubba:
what a fucking horrible record collection that list would make.
Somehow i knew that reaction would come up. I own one of those cd's (Master of Puppets).
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I don't see anything on the list that isn't arguable a good album. A boringly unoriginal list, a good start to a collection in terms of obvious choices....
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What is the average age of those albums?
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A friend of mine has a couple of friends in the music biz, so she found out about this early on and we could have signed up as reviewers. I did that one year for the restaurant guide, but music is just too subjective and I knew I'd end up being pissed off at the results. So I didn't bother. It's a long-ass form to fill out.
And I vote, as an FYI.
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Elvis costello's this years model is a great rekkid IMHO.His appearance doing Radio Radio on SNL after being told not to was "too cool for school" love that tune!!
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Bilge, Mary J.
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Originally posted by Bubba
What is the average age of those albums?
25.33 years.
When you exclude multiple entries and "best of" or compilation albums, the average age becomes 27.30 years
Here is the top-10 of the Zagat Survey Music Guide's most popular albums list:
1. "Born To Run," Bruce Springsteen - 1975
2. "Abbey Road," the Beatles - 1969
3. "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," the Beatles - 1967
4. "The Joshua Tree," U2 - 1987
5. "The White Album," The Beatles - 1968
6. "Kind of Blue," Miles Davis - 1959
7. "Darkness on the Edge of Town," Bruce Springsteen - 1978
8. "Revolver," the Beatles - 1966
9. "Dark Side of the Moon," Pink Floyd - 1973
10. "Achtung Baby," U2 - 1991
Here are the Zagat Survey Music Guide's top albums by genre:
Blues: "Moanin' in the Moonlight," Howlin' Wolf - 1962
Classical: "Horowitz in Moscow," Vladimir Horowitz - 1986
Country & Western: "Will the Circle Be Unbroken," Nitty Gritty Dirt Band - 1972
Dance: "Dance Collection," Donna Summer - 1987 (Best of compilation)
Electronica: "Protection," Massive Attack - 1994
Folk: "John Prine," John Prine - 1971
Funk: "Funkify Your Life," the Meters, - 1995 (Compilation)
Hip-Hop: "It Takes a Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back," Public Enemy - 1988
Jazz: "Kind of Blue," Miles Davis, - 1959
Kids: "The Muppet Movie" soundtrack - 1979
Musicals: "My Fair Lady" (Lerner and Loewe) - 1964
New Age: "Nouveau Flamenco," Ottmar Liebert - 1990
Pop Vocal (Contemporary): "Thriller," Michael Jackson - 1982
Pop Vocal (Traditional): "Best of the Songbooks," Ella Fitzgerald - 1993 (compilation)
R&B: "The Best," Luther Vandross - 1989 (Best of)
Rock (Overall): "Born To Run," Bruce Springsteen - 1975
Rock (Alternative): "The Joshua Tree," U2 - 1987
Rock (Art/Experimental): "Dark Side of the Moon," Pink Floyd - 1973
Rock (Classic): "Born to Run," Bruce Springsteen - 1975
Rock (Garage/Underground): "Nuggets: Original Artyfacts," various - 1972 (Various artists)
Rock (Hard/Heavy Metal): "Master of Puppets," Metallica - 1986
Rock (New Wave): "This Year's Model," Elvis Costello - 1978
Rock (Oldies): "Elvis," Elvis Presley. - 1956
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Well, I own more than four. All the Beatles albums (though I only ever listen to "Revolver"), Joshua Tree and Miles Davis. That's six. But I'm a person with my basics covered; I also have Big Star, the Raspberries and the Beach Boys, but that hardly indicates my music preferences (except to say the power pop direction rather than roots or R&B rock n' roll of the Stones, etc.).
Originally posted by â? â?ĄÂł Ă?ĂžmĂŸÂȘĂż Ăâ?°r§:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I think I own four of them...
You would. [/b]
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How could you possibly NOT own at least 4 of them? I mean, it ain't all sophiticated-like, but some of them are absolute classics. The only one of the top 10 I don't have is Born to Run. Plus, 'Will the Circle Be Unbroken,' 'Nation of Millions' and 'This Year's Model' are all great records.
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I don't think anyone under 35 had a say in this poll. More of an old Classics list for the grooving <sarcasm> middle aged set than anything. There are a few good selections there, and I won't bother picking and choosing, but as a whole, it's a pretty dull collection. (IMHO) Very reflective of those who had some musical interest in their youth and gave up on it once they got their careers and families going. You know that type.
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Bilge, Mary J.
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Amen bro.
Will the Circle Be Unbroken is probably the best of the lot. Born to Run is good too.
It takes a Nation of Millions was probably my favorite during my rap loving days...
Originally posted by walkman:
How could you possibly NOT own at least 4 of them? I mean, it ain't all sophiticated-like, but some of them are absolute classics. The only one of the top 10 I don't have is Born to Run. Plus, 'Will the Circle Be Unbroken,' 'Nation of Millions' and 'This Year's Model' are all great records.
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Originally posted by â? â?ĄÂł Ă?ĂžmĂŸÂȘĂż Ăâ?°r§:
I am proud-to-say, "I've never owned a Springsteen album!"
I am proud to say that "I've never, ever even had the slightest inclination to own even one Springsteen song!" :mad: The man's music has never done a thing for me except make me want to change whatever was pumping out his music.
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There is Greetings From Asbury Park and then there is everything else.....
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And to think...it was all downhill for Springsteen after Born To Run!
Oh, for the record (pun intended) I own NOT ONE of those albums listed!...although I would pick up Revolver if it ever showed up in a used cd place.
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Other than as an excuse for people to argue, I thought that list was totally lame. The age bias in the respondent sample is obvious.
By the way, I own a majority of the albums listed, wouldn't mind owning the rest, and I'm one million years old.
The problem isn't the music itself (which is all pretty good, at least for those who like the styles and periods they represent). It's that *one* list for a poorly-defined concept (what the hell is a "top album"?), chosen by a demographically skewed panel, from a *stacked deck* of 2,200 preselected choices across 22 genres and 80 years, is doomed to near meaninglessness.
One hopes that the Zagat people had their tongues planted firmly in cheek while composing the press release about the cosmic significance of their "achievement."
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Originally posted by mankie:
although I would pick up Revolver if it ever showed up in a used cd place. [/QB]
wont happen. the smug record store clerks but most of the good used stuff before its prices and put on the shelf. especially classic stuff like that.
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Originally posted by JaguÀr:
Originally posted by â? â?ĄÂł Ă?ĂžmĂŸÂȘĂż Ăâ?°r§:
I am proud-to-say, "I've never owned a Springsteen album!"
I am proud to say that "I've never, ever even had the slightest inclination to own even one Springsteen song!" :mad: The man's music has never done a thing for me except make me want to change whatever was pumping out his music. [/b]
I have no great love for Springsteen a la stadium, but Nebraska is a fabulous album. And Rhett, finally we see eye to eye â?? Will The Circle Be Unbroken is among my favorite records ever.
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I am with you, Jaguar!!!!! Blech on the Boss.
Originally posted by JaguÀr:
Originally posted by â? â?Ą3 Ă?Ăžm<thorn>ÂȘĂż <ETH>â?°r§:
I am proud-to-say, "I've never owned a Springsteen album!"
I am proud to say that "I've never, ever even had the slightest inclination to own even one Springsteen song!" :mad: The man's music has never done a thing for me except make me want to change whatever was pumping out his music. [/b]
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Geez, I finally sign up on the board partially at Bags's urging and one of the first things I see from her is "Blech on the Boss"? Blech on the Raspberries! ;-)
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joshua tree is so overrated
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Tooms, I was wondering where the hell you've been.
I'll take Blech to the Raspberries, but NOT Big Star. That's where I draw the line. ;)
Originally posted by tooms:
Geez, I finally sign up on the board partially at Bags's urging and one of the first things I see from her is "Blech on the Boss"? Blech on the Raspberries! ;-)
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Originally posted by MaLo:
joshua tree is so overrated
very true...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by MaLo:
joshua tree is so overrated
very true... [/b]
I absolutely agree. Then again, I've never really liked U2 but I will tolerate them over Springsteen any day of the week.