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Title: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: ggw on December 12, 2005, 12:00:00 pm
Exclusive: The Decemberists Sign to Capitol Records
 Amy Phillips reports:
 
 Confirming a rumor that has been floating around the indie world for weeks, Decemberists frontman Colin Meloy revealed to Pitchfork this weekend that his band has indeed signed to Capitol Records. The deal follows a successful run with the beloved independent label Kill Rock Stars, which culminated in the release of the Decemberists' third (and best) album, Picaresque, earlier this year.
 
 "The idea of reaching a wider audience has become really attractive," Meloy said. "It just felt like we had tapped out the resources of Kill Rock Stars. We could have stayed on that label until the end of time, putting out proper Decemberists records that sold x amount of copies. But there was a general thought after this last tour that the music and the stage show were evolving. We felt like there was an opportunity for something bigger."
 
 "We adore Kill Rock Stars and we're profoundly lucky to have worked with such a wonderful group of people and to have been elbow to elbow with such an amazing roster of artists. That's one of the things that breaks my heart to move away from, saying that Deerhoof are our labelmates." Perhaps being in the company of the Beatles, Beach Boys, Radiohead, Coldplay, LCD Soundsystem, the Band, and Frank Sinatra will help ease the pain.
 
 Meloy said that longtime fans shouldn't be shocked by the Decemberists' decision. "We've never been the sort of group that has lived and breathed indie-ness. Even after we recorded [2003's] Her Majesty the Decemberists, it was pretty clear that we would probably be at a point after the next record that we would be moving on to something bigger."
 
 "We totally recognize the risk that we're taking. In some ways, that risk is kind of exciting."
 
 When asked what he thinks Capitol wants out of the Decemberists, Meloy replied, "I have no idea! That's what's so winsome about them. Capitol bent over backwards for us, even knowing the kind of band that we are. We're not Franz Ferdinand. We're not making new wave Gang of Four music. We're kind of the opposite of that. We have this penchant for moldy, dusty 60s British folk music and songs about chimney sweeps."
 
 Meloy assured Pitchfork that we won't be seeing the Decemberists working with the Matrix and duetting with Kelly Clarkson any time soon (not that either of those would necessarily be a bad thing). "We're the same band and we'll create the same music, if not stranger," he said. "We've never been a band that can churn out radio hits, and I don't think that Capitol sees that either. They were able to meet us on our own terms more than any other label we talked to, and were also the most forward about making sure that we don't change for this deal."
 
 "Having grown up seeing what major labels do in the early 90s, I was skeptical about it all along. I've been steeped in that mythology, Steve Albini essays and things like that. But the whole idea about selling out seems like such an antiquated notion. I don't just say that out of defensiveness. A lot has changed since Fugazi in the 90s. People have come to realize that that's a really difficult standard to maintain."
 
 He continued, "The contract that we have with Capitol is peppered with the words 'band approval'. It's really as good a contract as we could hope for. If they do have a nefarious agenda, it's completely hidden on me."
 
 Meloy added that the Decemberists will remain on Rough Trade in the UK, since Rough Trade is "pretty much the coolest label on the planet right now."
 
 The band will begin recording their Capitol debut in their hometown of Portland, Ore., in April, with Chris Walla of Death Cab for Cutie behind the boards once again, and Tucker Martine (Long Winters, Jesse Sykes) helping out. "The plan is to find a mansion to move into and take a little bit more time than we did for Picaresque," Meloy said. "Walla is intent on recording it exclusively on 24-track, rather than the 80 tracks that we used recording Picaresque. In some ways, we're scaling back a little bit."
 
 A new record isn't the only thing Meloy is expecting in the spring of 2006. He revealed to Pitchfork that his girlfriend, artist Carson Ellis, is pregnant with their first child. (That high-pitched moan you hear is the collective wailing of a nation of heartbroken indie girls.)
 
 In the meantime, Meloy has a solo tour scheduled for January, and he intends to record a set of covers of songs by 60s British folkie Shirley Collins for a tour-only EP. All of the shows will be recorded for a future live album release on Kill Rock Stars.
 
 As previously reported, here are those Meloy solo dates:
 
 01-18 Seattle, WA - Showbox *
 01-19 Portland, OR - Aladdin Theater *
 01-20 San Francisco, CA - Great American Music Hall *
 01-21 Los Angeles, CA - El Rey *
 01-23 Chicago, IL - Park West *
 01-25 Boston, MA - Paradise *
 01-26 New York, NY - Town Hall *#
 01-27 Philadelphia, PA - Theater of Living Arts *
 01-28 Alexandria, VA - Birchmere *
 
 * with Laura Veirs
 # with Amy Annelle
 
 As for that long-anticipated Decemberists DVD, which has been in the works for over a year, Meloy said, "It's kind of in a holding pattern. We filmed our last show in Portland, at the end of our national tour, but my voice was kind of shot. I have a feeling we're not going to keep that show, which means we'll probably end up filming another show and putting off the release date. This whole DVD project has been an epic journey. But it will come out eventually on Kill Rock Stars."
 
 In addition to a full live show, the DVD will contain backstage footage and all of the Decemberists videos, including a previously unreleased one for all eighteen minutes of the band's 2004 EP The Tain. Created by filmmaker Andy Smetanka, who resides in Meloy's native Missoula, Mont., The Tain video is made entirely from "silhouette crepe paper stop motion animation," according to Meloy.
 
 Meloy and Decemberists drummer John Moen also appear on the forthcoming self-titled Minus Five album, due February 7 on Yep Roc. Meloy sings on the song "Cemetery Row". "I've been a Young Fresh Fellows fan from eons ago," Meloy said, referring to Minus Five leader Scott McCaughey's former band. "It was really exciting to meet him. Right before we left on this last tour, I just went over to Scott's house, sat in his living room and recorded the song.
 
 "That was one of the crowning achievements of my life, to be on a Minus five record. I'm very serious."
 
 As if all of that wasn't enough to keep a man busy for three lifetimes, Kill Rock Stars also plans to release an anthology of recordings by Meloy's college band, Tarkio on January 24. The two-disc Omnibus collects Tarkio's 1998 album I Guess I Was Hoping for Something More, 1999 EP Sea Songs for Landlocked Sailors, and various demos and outtakes.
 
 Meloy said listening to Tarkio's music after all these years felt "good and kind of scary." He added, "I feel proud of a lot of them, and I feel like a lot of them stand up to what we're doing now, though a lot of them kind of show a bit of a gestating songwriting ability. Some of it's kind of silly and embarrassing. It's just fun to get it out there."
 
 Tracklist:
 
 Disc 1:
 
 01 Keeping Me Awake
 02 Caroline Avenue
 03 Neapolitan Bridesmaid
 04 Save Yourself
 05 Better Half
 06 Eva Luna
 07 Kickaround
 08 If I Had More Time
 09 Sister Nebraska
 10 Helena Won't Get Stoned
 11 Your Own Kind
 12 Candle
 13 Standing Still
 
 Disc 2:
 
 01 Devil's Elbow
 02 Weight of the World
 03 My Mother Was a Chinese Trapeze Artist
 04 Mountains of Mourne
 05 Tristan and Iseult
 06 Never Will Marry
 07 This Rollercoaster Ride
 08 Following Camden Down
 09 Slow Down
 10 Annabelle Leigh
 11 Carrie
 12 Am I Not Right?
 13 Mess of Me
 14 Goodbye Girl
 
 Meloy ended the conversation by sheepishly asking Pitchfork, "Will you guys will still like our records, even if we're on Capitol?"
 
 As long as your records are good, we'll like them, Colin. Don't worry.
 
 http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/05-12/12.shtml (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/05-12/12.shtml)
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 12, 2005, 12:35:00 pm
Here we go again.....a band want to make a decent living out of their talents and so get accused of being sell outs by no doubt the same people who steal, oops I mean share their music and so take food out of same bands mouths.
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: K8teebug on December 12, 2005, 01:19:00 pm
My cousin's in that band.  I'm happy for them.  I hope they make millions and buy my Aunt and Uncle a house in Italy.....
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on December 12, 2005, 01:28:00 pm
good for them ... i'm really looking forward to colin's show at birchmere, finally got tickets last week
 
 did you guys know that the tour-only EP from his last solo tour (Colin Meloy Sings Morrissey) is going for upwards of $75 on ebay (last copy sold for $86)?  i never listen to the CD itself, just the MP3s ocassionally, so i'm thinking about selling it ... unless, or course, anyone here is offended by the capitalist nature of the transaction, in which case i'll refrain
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: ttuamy on December 12, 2005, 01:33:00 pm
when rick rubin talks them into rapping on their next album i'll call them sellouts, for now they're fine.
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: nkotb on December 12, 2005, 01:52:00 pm
Where's Arlette to point out (what I'm assuming is) the sarcasm in ggw's post?
 
 
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Here we go again.....a band want to make a decent living out of their talents and so get accused of being sell outs by no doubt the same people who steal, oops I mean share their music and so take food out of same bands mouths.
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on December 12, 2005, 01:58:00 pm
What sarcasm? It just looks like he cut and pasted a pitchfork article.
 
 
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Originally posted by nkotBaba:
  Where's Arlette to point out (what I'm assuming is) the sarcasm in ggw's post?
 
   
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Here we go again.....a band want to make a decent living out of their talents and so get accused of being sell outs by no doubt the same people who steal, oops I mean share their music and so take food out of same bands mouths.
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Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: ggw on December 12, 2005, 02:14:00 pm
Decemberists [sarc]Sell Out[/sarc]
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: you be betty on December 12, 2005, 04:02:00 pm
hey; should i go see Colin Meloy, or Deerhoof that night?
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: amnesiac on December 12, 2005, 04:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by you be betty:
  hey; should i go see Colin Meloy, or Deerhoof that night?
See Deerhoof at the Ottobar the night before, then Colin the next night. That's my plan.
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: you be betty on December 12, 2005, 06:58:00 pm
fuck.  i just realized (about ten seconds ago) that i'm leaving for nyc late saturday night.  no show/s for me.  maybe my one friend that actually likes deerhoof and i can prostitute ourselves all the way from bethesda to baltimore...
 
 
 a challenge that i might be up for!
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: vansmack on December 12, 2005, 09:14:00 pm
Good.  Maybe next time their gear gets stolen someone else can pick up the tab.
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: ggw on December 13, 2005, 11:02:00 am
So in one of the poorest kept secrets in indie rock, it has finally been confirmed that The Decemberists have jumped on the major label merry-go-round and signed to Capitol. At first I thought this seemed logical - The Decemberists are currently one of the higher profile indie bands and certainly one of the more unique, yet accessible-sounding. But the more I thought about it, the more I had to wonder - is there really a larger market waiting for them? I can't imagine there's THAT much bigger a potential audience for Colin Meloy bleating out songs about chimney sweeps and nautical vengeance over accordian solos. This isn't the pure pop of Death Cab or The Shins we're talking about here. I can't imagine who Capitol thinks they can reach that Kill Rock Stars couldn't - maybe this is just a bit of overzealousness on the part of a major who wants the good PR of signing some indie darlings. I sorta can't wait to see their faces when the Decemberists hand in their next album and the suits are all, "um, what? Gay matadors on an Antarctic expedition?"
 
 www.chromewaves.net (http://www.chromewaves.net)
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on December 13, 2005, 11:14:00 am
That's exactly what I was thinking last night.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  So in one of the poorest kept secrets in indie rock, it has finally been confirmed that The Decemberists have jumped on the major label merry-go-round and signed to Capitol. At first I thought this seemed logical - The Decemberists are currently one of the higher profile indie bands and certainly one of the more unique, yet accessible-sounding. But the more I thought about it, the more I had to wonder - is there really a larger market waiting for them? I can't imagine there's THAT much bigger a potential audience for Colin Meloy bleating out songs about chimney sweeps and nautical vengeance over accordian solos. This isn't the pure pop of Death Cab or The Shins we're talking about here. I can't imagine who Capitol thinks they can reach that Kill Rock Stars couldn't - maybe this is just a bit of overzealousness on the part of a major who wants the good PR of signing some indie darlings. I sorta can't wait to see their faces when the Decemberists hand in their next album and the suits are all, "um, what? Gay matadors on an Antarctic expedition?"
 
 www.chromewaves.net (http://www.chromewaves.net)
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 13, 2005, 12:07:00 pm
well as Cooler's pointed out on his blog, DCFC signed with a major in order to raise thier profile overseas and speculates the Decemberists are doing the same thing.
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: you be betty on December 13, 2005, 07:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Good.  Maybe next time their gear gets stolen someone else can pick up the tab.
was that directed towards me?
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: vansmack on December 14, 2005, 01:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by you be betty:
  was that directed towards me?
Not intentionally, but I never pass up a joke at someone else's expense.
 
 I was simply pointing out that when their gear was stolen, people were asking the fans to make donations and particpate in a charity auction to help replace the gear, which I thought odd.  Now maybe the label will pay for any stolen gear.
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: you be betty on December 14, 2005, 05:19:00 pm
aye
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: calecp01 on December 14, 2005, 05:48:00 pm
I've seen Decemberists twice and solo Colin once and never seen Deerhoof, so as much as I like the Birchmere I think I'm gonna hit up the Black Cat, cause I don't feel like treking out to Ottobar... anyone seen Deerhoof before?  Good live show?
 
 Also, damn, I'd happily party with my Colin Meloy Sings Morrissey disc for $86.
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: you be betty on December 14, 2005, 07:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by cale:
  I've seen Decemberists twice and solo Colin once and never seen Deerhoof, so as much as I like the Birchmere I think I'm gonna hit up the Black Cat, cause I don't feel like treking out to Ottobar... anyone seen Deerhoof before?  Good live show?
 
 Also, damn, I'd happily party with my Colin Meloy Sings Morrissey disc for $86.
I have never PERSONALLY seen Deerhoof, but some friends of mine have; and they are supposed to rock.  
 
 They just played with BlackBlack in LA...if the show here was with BlackBlack, i'd probably stay home from NYC for it.  i'm really bummed that i'm missing BOTH of these...AND the Cake show, too!  sheesh.
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: mr. pretentious on December 14, 2005, 08:59:00 pm
The big question for me is whether to see Colin Meloy OR Robert Pollard that night.  Fuuuuuuuck.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by you be betty:
  hey; should i go see Colin Meloy, or Deerhoof that night?
Title: Re: Decemberists Sell Out
Post by: Darth Ed on December 15, 2005, 01:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by you be betty:
  hey; should i go see Colin Meloy, or Deerhoof that night?
I'm kind of wondering if it might be possible to see both. Deerhoff at the Black Cat on a Saturday night, so I'm guessing they probably won't go on until 11:30 or 12:00, right? What time do Birchmere shows usually end? My Colin Meloy ticket says the show starts at 7:30pm...