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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: vansmack on April 07, 2008, 02:32:00 pm
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Sorry to create yet another hockey thread, but I'm quite certain I won't be able to stomach all the Caps talk in the other threads, especially if they meet the Pens in the next round. I'm happy they made it, good for them. Just not as happy as others.
Therefore, I'm creating a non-Caps Hockey Playoffs Thread. So, for those that wish to discuss their favorite non DC Area teams or make predictions, this is the place.
WEST
Wings in 5
Sharks in 5
Wild in 6
Ducks in 6
EAST
Habs in 5
Pens in 5
Flyers in 6
Rangers in 6
I don't like the prospect of the Ducks having to go through the Stars, the Red Wings and then the Sharks just to make it to the Stanley Cup final. I see some sleepless nights in my future.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Flyers in 6
uh oh
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And here's your national TV schedule:
All Times Eastern, * if necessary, JIP = Joined in Progress
April 9 - 7:00 PM Game 1: Senators @ Penguins VERSUS
April 9 - 10:00 PM Game 1: Flames @ Sharks VERSUS
April 10 - 7:00 PM Game 1: Predators @ Red Wings VERSUS
April 10 - 10:00 PM Game 1: Stars @ Ducks VERSUS
April 11 - 7:00 PM Game 1: Flyers @ Capitals VERSUS
April 11 - 9:00 PM JIP Game 2: Avalanche @ Wild VERSUS
April 12 - 2:00 PM Game 2: Predators @ Red Wings NBC
April 12 - 7:00 PM Game 2: Bruins @ Canadiens VERSUS
April 12 - 10:00 PM Game 2: Stars @ Ducks VERSUS
April 13 - 2:00 PM Game 2: Flyers @ Capitals NBC
April 13 - 7:00 PM Game 3: Devils @ Rangers VERSUS
April 13 - 10:00 PM Game 3: Sharks @ Flames VERSUS
April 14 - TBD Game 3: Red Wings @ Predators VERSUS
April 14 - 10:00 PM Game 3: Wild @ Avalanche VERSUS
April 15 - 10:00 PM Game 4: Wild @ Avalanche VERSUS
April 15 - 7:00 PM Game 3: Capitals @ Flyers VERSUS
April 16 - 7:00 PM Game 4: Devils @ Rangers VERSUS
April 16 - TBD JIP Game 4: Red Wings @ Predators VERSUS
April 17 - 7:00 PM Game 4: Capitals @ Flyers VERSUS
April 17 - 10:00 PM *Game 5: Flames @ Sharks VERSUS
April 18 - 7:30 PM *Game 5: Predators @ Red Wings VERSUS
April 18 - 10:30 PM *Game 5: Stars @ Ducks VERSUS
April 19 - TBD *Game 5: Senators @ Penguins VERSUS
April 19 - 1:00 PM *Game 5: Flyers @ Capitals NBC
April 19 - TBD *Game 6: Wild @ Avalanche VERSUS
April 20 - 3:00 PM *Game 6: Red Wings @ Predators NBC
April 20 - TBD *Game 6: Devils @ Rangers VERSUS
April 20 - TBD *Game 6: Sharks @ Flames VERSUS
April 21 - TBD *Game 6: Capitals @ Flyers VERSUS
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As I said in another thread - since the Kings are nowhere to be seen - im cheering on the rangers! im predicting them in 7 :)
as far as the rest:
Wings in 5
Sharks in 6 (i hope they lose tho :) )
Avs in 7 (im counting on forsberg)
Stars in 6
East:
habs in 6
pens in 7
flyers in 5
and rangers in 7
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in canuckia, every first-round game featuring a canadian team will be aired by the CBC - public broadcasting, free to all, cable not required. i think that's pretty cool... for the canuckians.
another version of the TV schedule here (http://capitals.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=359456).
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I'm gonna say Caps..................
We are on a roll....ish.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
in canuckia, every first-round game featuring a canadian team will be aired by the CBC - public broadcasting, free to all, cable not required. i think that's pretty cool... for the canuckians.
Without a proper revenue generating TV deal, it's a wonder the Canuckia teams are so hurting for revenue. ;)
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hey - we're talking hockey here. passion first, business later... unfortunately.
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Speaking of canuckia, where is ExCanuck (me thinks that is what is handle is) now that its time to play for lord stanley's cup? I thought he would be here straight away.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
hey - we're talking hockey here. passion first, business later... unfortunately.
Since "The Trade"....
Capitalism 15
Canuckia 3
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WEST
Wings in 6
San Jose in 5
Avalanche in 6
Ducks in 6
EAST
Habs in 5
Sens in 7
Caps in 6
Rangers in 6
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LETS GO BLUES! (I am referring to the lottery tonight and the quest for Stamkos)
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nobody's bold enough to predict a sweep?
EAST
Montreal in 4
Caps in 7
Pittsburgh in 5
Jersey in 6
West
Wings in 5
Sharks in 4
Avs in 7
Stars in 7
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
nobody's bold enough to predict a sweep?
Montreal over Boston is the only series I'd even consider it in. Certainly none in the West.
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WEST
Wings in 4
Sharks in 6
Stars in 6
Avs in 7
EAST
Habs in 5
Pens in 5
Flyers in 6
Devils in 6
Thats my spin on it.
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Originally posted by RatBastard:
Wild in 6
Avs in 7
Nice covering your bases, picking both teams.
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OOPS
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OK I Think I got that fixed... DOH I R Stoopid.
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i see the wings winning their series 5,6,and 6 and then sweeping the finals, but i'm rather biased.
i see the caps/flyers going seven, and hope the caps can do it. should be a great series. winner will likely play the pens...
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just game 1, but i liked what i saw. too many penalties, but the sens had 0 punch on offense. yay playoff hockey
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
just game 1, but i liked what i saw. too many penalties, but the sens had 0 punch on offense. yay playoff hockey
a complete 180 from last year.
amazing how fragile chemistry, desire, experience, etc can be on a team.
loved to see Ottawa get beaten & beaten up (especially after that ass Sun columnist called for injuries.)
<img src="http://www.ottawasun.com/FrontPage/2008/04/10/ottcover.jpg" alt=" - " />
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I wish venerable were in the country to talk about the sharks....
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I wish venerable were in the country to talk about the sharks....
Did I mention how happy I am that venerable is out of the country?
4 power play goals. Play agressively, you'd better be able to kill a power play.
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well, after the weekend i sum up....
- Finally we beat Montreal (yes, charlie, i play on the team)
- The rangers are much better than i thought.
- the sharks are much worse than i thought.
- if the wild / avs series had to be decided by a 2-game advantage, it would never end.
- pittsburgh is gonna totally sweep ottawa
- sean avery cracks me up.
- my dishnetwork center ice has shown the Bruins 11 times in high definition this year, they are 0-11. last night was in SD and none of the rest of their 1st round games are in HD.
- capitals should ask fans to wear last seasons hockey jerseys to game 5 and see how many of these fans actually have one.
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Ahem. Now that's more like it. I wasn't happy about giving up 2 in the third, but I'll take 3 in the first 14 mins anytime.
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i really don't know who i want to win avs/wild.
i fucking hate the avs, especially since that glass-body forsberg merc'ed his way back in. but i fucking DESPISE jaques lemaire for ruining hockey with the invention of the neutral zone trap...13 years later, and the refs still waffle on holding or obstruction in the playoffs.
lemaire killed the game, and the only way to rectify it is to adopt a wider, international surface to allow skill players more room to create.
and also, allow more fighting. less leg-stomps and less axe-handles, and subsequently, less suspensions, if you just allow the boys to sort it out on the ice. disney can go to hell. they're really not supporting the sport anyway. see also espn.
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damn, someone woke up on the wrong side of the boards today!
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Current series standings...
WEST
Wings up 2-1
Sharks/Flames even 2-2
Stars up 2-1
Avs/Wild even 2-2
EAST
Habs in up 3-1
Pens in up 3-1
Flyers up 2-1
Rangers up 2-1
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I have a feeling we're a game or two away from the annual Mid-April Marty Turco Suicide Watch in Dallas.
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Pens are up 3-0.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
I have a feeling we're a game or two away from the annual Mid-April Marty Turco Suicide Watch in Dallas.
I like the way you think, although I've never really felt it was up to him. If the Ducks start every game hitting the way they did last night and causing that much commotion, they're going to be tough to beat.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
If the Ducks start every game hitting the way they did last night and causing that much commotion, they're going to be tough to beat.
Last year wasn't Turco's fault; Turco was great, Luongo was simply transcendent. Fact remains that the perception is that Turco is soft and folds in the playoffs and if Anaheim pulls it out, even if every game left is 1-0 in 3OTs, Turco will get blamed.
That said, Game 4 is the entire series. If the Stars win it, they're winning the series. If the Ducks win Game 4, Ducks in 6.
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
Pens are up 3-0.
Yeah but that doenst count the 4th game that will prevent the sweep. DOH
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I don't know what would be more embarrassing if I was a Sens fan. Being swept in the first round. Or the WWE-style intro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi5nCd1ZVrw) to Monday's game.
Just drop the friggin' puck.
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Originally posted by RatBastard:
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
Pens are up 3-0.
Yeah but that doenst count the 4th game that will prevent the sweep. DOH [/b]
how about that
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
Originally posted by RatBastard:
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
Pens are up 3-0.
Yeah but that doenst count the 4th game that will prevent the sweep. DOH [/b]
how about that [/b]
<img src="http://www.ottawasun.com/FrontPage/2008/04/17/ottsuncoverlarge.jpg" alt=" - " />
Fore straight - Next!
ppg:
Burning question: What would be the Penguins' most intriguing second-round matchup?
Breakdown: The Rangers, with ex-Penguins Jaromir Jagr, Martin Straka and Michal Rozsival (plus Jordan Staal's brother, Marc) would be interesting, but nothing would beat a Penguins-Capitals series. Alexander Ovechkin against the Penguins' young guns would make for the most compelling storyline. Far less intriguing would be Penguins-Devils or Penguins-Bruins. There is no scenario in which the Penguins would play the top-seeded Canadiens or the sixth-seeded Flyers.
PuckSpeak: "I did (like Mellon Arena) when I used to play here, but it's not easy when everybody's booing you when you touch the puck." - Jagr, during his most recent visit to Pittsburgh.
Looking ahead: The Penguins were 3-3-2 against the Rangers this season, topping three goals only once. They were 3-0-1 against the Capitals, with one of the wins in overtime and the loss in a shootout. They were 2-2 against the Bruins, though one loss was with what amounted to a split squad after the trade deadline. Finally, the Penguins were 4-3-1 against the Devils, scoring four or more goals four times. They outscored New Jersey, 9-1, in the final two meetings of the season.
Drooling @ the thought of them facing the one-man band.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
PuckSpeak: "I did (like Mellon Arena) when I used to play here, but it's not easy when everybody's booing you when you touch the puck." - Jagr, during his most recent visit to Pittsburgh.
I don't get the Pen's fans booing him? (besides him being a big douchebag)
He never did anything bad to the team while he was there. Is it 'cause he cut the mullet?
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i was at a pens/rangers game last season. talked to kasper in the elevator. good times
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
PuckSpeak: "I did (like Mellon Arena) when I used to play here, but it's not easy when everybody's booing you when you touch the puck." - Jagr, during his most recent visit to Pittsburgh.
I don't get the Pen's fans booing him? (besides him being a big douchebag)
He never did anything bad to the team while he was there. Is it 'cause he cut the mullet? [/b]
That's it....
"No Mullet, not welcome in Pittsburgh"
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I hope the Capitals lose, if only for the fact that they are on Vs. and blacked out on my TV. Yet, I dont get CSN-MA. So not only do i not get to see the games, but Vs. doesnt show a different game to those blacked out, so i get to watch Boston in SD and i get NADA in HD.
and now i am listening to the 2-OT game on the radio...like its 1963.
fuckers.
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FUCK YEAH!
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
PuckSpeak: "I did (like Mellon Arena) when I used to play here, but it's not easy when everybody's booing you when you touch the puck." - Jagr, during his most recent visit to Pittsburgh.
I don't get the Pen's fans booing him? (besides him being a big douchebag)
He never did anything bad to the team while he was there. Is it 'cause he cut the mullet? [/b]
That's it....
"No Mullet, not welcome in Pittsburgh" [/b]
Trivia time:
Other than the cherry blossoms blooming -
How can you tell it's Spring in D.C.?
Hint?
<img src="http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/aha/heim.gif" alt=" - " />
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please dont feed the trolls. i think that's why smackie made this thread
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
please dont feed the trolls. i think that's why smackie made this thread
but they seem to be starving. malnourished really. it seems to be affecting their thought processes...
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
That said, Game 4 is the entire series. If the Stars win it, they're winning the series. If the Ducks win Game 4, Ducks in 6.
Fuck. Couldn't agree more. I can't believe I'm driving 450 miles to Anaheim to see game 5, when it ultimately won't matter.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
please dont feed the trolls. i think that's why smackie made this thread
but they seem to be starving. malnourished really. it seems to be affecting their thought processes... [/b]
...or just bitter and clinging on to guns, religion and a faggy hockey team who've never heard of checking.
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
a faggy hockey team who've never heard of checking.
wait, whos the Canadiens fan?
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
please dont feed the trolls. i think that's why smackie made this thread
but they seem to be starving. malnourished really. it seems to be affecting their thought processes... [/b]
Still smarter than a Pen-tard.
Coming back from last place to playoffs with the second youngest team isn't choking.
Pen's may think (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/47193) they're playing the Rangers by voicing 'concerns' but it's not over yet.
The Pens even make goal celebrations look gay.
<img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080417/capt.a6966dccec054ae6aeb9796a4b4edaec.correction_penguins_senators_hockey_ottk107.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
please dont feed the trolls. i think that's why smackie made this thread
but they seem to be starving. malnourished really. it seems to be affecting their thought processes... [/b]
Still smarter than a Pen-tard.
Coming back from last place to playoffs with the second youngest team isn't choking.
Pen's may think (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/47193) they're playing the Rangers by voicing 'concerns' but it's not over yet.
The Pens even make goal celebrations look gay.
<img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080417/capt.a6966dccec054ae6aeb9796a4b4edaec.correction_penguins_senators_hockey_ottk107.jpg" alt=" - " /> [/b]
Great pic of Ruutu scoring the game winner!
I think he has as many playoff goals as Alex.
The "best" player in the league is currently 33rd in playoff scoring & at a -3?!?!?!?!? Pure comedy. Ovechkin should give back those meaningless regular season awards!
I know goal celebration envy when I see it Slappy...Wish the Pens could loan the Caps a few lamp lighters.
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hey Penguins fans
Can you please try to save the gloating for when you beat a team that deserve to be in the playoffs. Not some beat up team who a) didnt have their best player and b) played 14-20 down the stretch!
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So who's the one who's the filling in the photo of that homo sandwich? He's just precious isn't he.
The Pittsburgh Pansies!!
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
hey Penguins fans
Can you please try to save the gloating for when you beat a team that deserve to be in the playoffs. Not some beat up team who a) didnt have their best player and b) played 14-20 down the stretch!
i never gloated, and in fact i agree. stop feeding the trolls, i'm her slave. talk shit on the caps in their own thread
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
hey Penguins fans
Can you please try to save the gloating for when you beat a team that deserve to be in the playoffs. Not some beat up team who a) didnt have their best player and b) played 14-20 down the stretch!
i never gloated, and in fact i agree. stop feeding the trolls, i'm her slave. talk shit on the caps in their own thread [/b]
fair enough.
Well, the Caps pulled it off today. and we'll see a game 6. I am pretty mad i have to work tonight and i will have to watch Game 6 of the Bruins/Habs at 3am on tape delay :(
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
stop feeding the trolls, i'm her slave. talk shit on the caps in their own thread [/QB]
You have very skewed definition of a troll.
I could see if the 9:30 club was in Pittsburgh, but, thank god, it is not. It's in DC. Therefore making fun of a team that is not local isn't trolling.
I did have a mild curiosity in the reason why other fan's booed Jagr. I wasn't looking to spazz out the Pen-tard faithful into posting uneducated nonsense.
On topic, Bruins-Habs game was amazing. I never thought it would go to seven. Rangers and Pens gotta be loving the intensity of the other two East series.
Whoever comes out of these two is gonna be close to running on fumes.
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very happy both series are going long. of course if the pens end up playing the rangers in the next round it wont matter
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Originally posted by slappy:
On topic, Bruins-Habs game was amazing.
best
game
of
year
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
best
game
of
year
Best period (3rd) of the year, anyway. I don't have a horse in that race but I just sat there going "holy crap" the entire last ten minutes.
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Just watching Kessel, Lucic, Price, Higgins in that game made me realize the NHL should really market ALL the insane young talent in the league right now.
Kessel deserves to be the first player to win the Masterton trophy twice.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
please dont feed the trolls. i think that's why smackie made this thread
Thanks for trying to defend the integrity of the thread. I knew it was inevitable and after the Ducks 3rd period collapse last night, I don't care anymore. Fuck.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
best
game
of
year
Best period (3rd) of the year, anyway. I don't have a horse in that race but I just sat there going "holy crap" the entire last ten minutes. [/b]
Agreed.
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Originally posted by slappy:
On topic, Bruins-Habs game was amazing. I never thought it would go to seven. Rangers and Pens gotta be loving the intensity of the other two East series.
Whoever comes out of these two is gonna be close to running on fumes. [/b]
The other side of that coin is if your team goes through 4-0 you have a chance of losing your rythm and momentum while waiting for the next round to start. I'd say, injuries aside, it would be better to not have a break during the playoffs.
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last year's Senators are proof of that.
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
The other side of that coin is if your team goes through 4-0 you have a chance of losing your rythm and momentum while waiting for the next round to start. I'd say, injuries aside, it would be better to not have a break during the playoffs. [/b]
i'm not going to speak for the rangers, but the rest will be good for crosby, hossa and especially roberts. wont say i'm not a little worried about lost rhythm, though. but, if the pens play the rangers, it would be an issue for both teams. we shall see
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man, oh man this day is taking forever.
can we all just hope Boston can pull just one more game out.
even the Pens/Flyers/Caps fans have to like seeing Montreal disposed of, right?
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
man, oh man this day is taking forever.
can we all just hope Boston can pull just one more game out.
even the Pens/Flyers/Caps fans have to like seeing Montreal disposed of, right?
I'll be rooting for Boston but if I had to pick, would prefer Calgary winning their game 7.
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if they werent from boston i would be a firm yes
even as is, id say sure
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I'm just hoping for Overtimes. Lots of them.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I'm just hoping for Overtimes. Lots of them.
oh man!!! dont say that.
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
oh man!!! dont say that.
Well, Smackette's out of town and the Angels are off tonight so nothing like 5 or 6 periods of playoff hockey to keep me out of trouble.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
oh man!!! dont say that.
Well, Smackette's out of town and the Angels are off tonight so nothing like 5 or 6 periods of playoff hockey to keep me out of trouble. [/b]
If the game is over in three there's always that 18 year old Cindy's webcam site you subscribe to.
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
If the game is over in three there's always that 18 year old Cindy's webcam site you subscribe to.
I've been a subscriber for so long that after four beers, even I can't talk myself into believing Cindy's 18 any longer. Just. Can't. Quit. Her.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by vansmack:
I wish venerable were in the country to talk about the sharks....
Did I mention how happy I am that venerable is out of the country?
4 power play goals. Play agressively, you'd better be able to kill a power play. [/b]
what happened??? i got my playoff beard and everything. . .
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
what happened??? i got my playoff beard and everything. . .
We can have a shaving party tomorrow night...
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My girlfriend has forbidden me from continuing with my attempts to grow a Red Wings playoff beard. But she watches the games with me and is willing to wear my old Shanahan jersey, so I think its a fair compromise.
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
even the Pens/Flyers/Caps fans have to like seeing Montreal disposed of, right?
Only problem is (as a Pens fan) - the Pens get the Bruins next then right? 2 v. 8?
I've been sayin that I don't like the Boston matchup. Even less so if they prove to knock out the top seed.
Much rather player the Caps, Devils, Flyers (in that order.)
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
even the Pens/Flyers/Caps fans have to like seeing Montreal disposed of, right?
GO HABS GO.
oh, wait, i was a montreal fan all along. never mind. here, this (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080421) should help kill the next 40 minutes until face off. i suspect you'll sympathize... you traitor :p
Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
My girlfriend has forbidden me from continuing with my attempts to grow a Red Wings playoff beard.
i'm not convinced you could grow a beard.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
i'm not convinced you could grow a beard.
Notice I said "attempts." It was coming in about as thick as Pavel Datsyuk's. (This could be the basis of her objection.)
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
she is willing to wear my old Shanahan jersey,
That's hot.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
she is willing to wear my old Shanahan jersey,
That's hot. [/b]
I know!
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
man, oh man this day is taking forever.
can we all just hope Boston can pull just one more game out.
even the Pens/Flyers/Caps fans have to like seeing Montreal disposed of, right?
you read Simmons?
Some old emotions are Bruin (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080421&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)
<img src="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/images/200804/20080420wp_canadiens_160.jpg" alt=" - " />
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i fear it will be another 6 month before we hear from sonick again :)
and the caps pull through to force a game 7 - to which i have tickets. caps on tuesday, foals on wednesday, tom morello on thursday - AWESOME week ahead of me.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
i fear it will be another 6 month before we hear from sonick again :)
and the caps pull through to force a game 7 - to which i have tickets. caps on tuesday, foals on wednesday, tom morello on thursday - AWESOME week ahead of me.
well, enjoy it while it lasts cause Price is about 2 years from being able to get his team to the Cup finals.
hopefully next season we wont have some Flyer goon take out our best player for the year in October.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
what happened??? i got my playoff beard and everything. . .
We can have a shaving party tomorrow night... [/b]
Can wives and g/f's come??? ;)
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
what happened??? i got my playoff beard and everything. . .
We can have a shaving party tomorrow night... [/b]
Can wives and g/f's come??? ;) [/b]
i guess i'll join you too!
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
what happened??? i got my playoff beard and everything. . .
We can have a shaving party tomorrow night... [/b]
Can wives and g/f's come??? ;) [/b]
Encouraged, of course.
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OK, so round 2.
Penguins in 6
Philadelphia in 7
i think the Philly/Montreal series is VERY interesting. the top 2 power play teams in the country. goals a plenty here. But Philly has the distinct edge in goaltending. Perhaps I just watched more of the Habs 1st round (the Caps games are blacked out at my house) but they look suspect. Their power play is NOT clicking and the whole team looks shaky in the 3rd period.
Dallas in 7
Detroit in 5
Poor San Jose is gonna play 14 playoff games and not even get into the conference finals, though i'll be rooting for them.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
My girlfriend has forbidden me from continuing with my attempts to grow a Red Wings playoff beard. But she watches the games with me and is willing to wear my old Shanahan jersey, so I think its a fair compromise.
JERSEY? Any REAL hockey fan knows its a SWEATER!!!
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montreal in 6
pens in 5
detroit in 5
dallas in 7
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Montreal in 6.
Rangers in 7.
Detroit in 6.
Dallas in 6.
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And a quick shout out to xneverwherex for going 8-0 in round one.
ROUND ONE
2-2 in the West.
4-0 in the East.
ROUND TWO
Sharks in 6.
Red Wings in 5.
Pens in 6.
Flyers in 7.
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ROUND ONE
4-0 in the West.
3-1 in the East.
ROUND TWO
Sharks in 6.
Red Wings in 6.
Rangers in 7. <-- My upset of the playoffs
Flyers in 7.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
And a quick shout out to xneverwherex for going 8-0 in round one.
ROUND ONE
2-2 in the West.
4-0 in the East.
ROUND TWO
Sharks in 6.
Red Wings in 5.
Pens in 6.
Flyers in 7.
sweet! thanks for the notice. Hell I didnt even realize I called them all. Now onto round 2.
And for Round 2.
Montreal in 7
RANGERS in 5 - im predicting lundquist will be unbeatable. but mostly as im in nyc - there is no way in hell im rooting against them! bring back the cup baby! time to send the pens packing!
Detroit in 6
Dallas in 7
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
i think the Philly/Montreal series is VERY interesting. the top 2 power play teams in the country.
When did Montreal become part of the US?
Habs in 7
Rangers in 6
Dallas in 7
Detroit in 6
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3373639 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3373639)
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when would be a good time to revisit these tired old topics?:
The pens trade deadline deals
The pens lack of defense & goaltending
Who really deserves the Hart
<img src="http://www.post-gazette.com//pg/images/200804/20080427_nhl_cards_aces_500.jpg" alt=" - " />
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- after/if the pens raise the cup
- uh...soon?
- its still ovie
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
The pens trade deadline deals
The pens lack of defense & goaltending
Who really deserves the Hart
Beating a 5 and 7 seed doesn't change anything. Ovechkin is still the MVP. The trade was still absurd. The Pens still can't win the cup, and Marc Andre Fleury and the lack of defense will be the reason.
Do you live a bubble? Detroit or Dallas would shred the Pens if they can make it to the finals.
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I still dont know that the pens (or anyone else) can beat the Wings. But i do get ooodles of cash if Pittsburgh wins the east due to a risky futures bet on them in November, when it was 15:1.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
- after/if the pens raise the cup
- uh...soon?
- its still ovie
- :D Lunacy: Hossa has been every bit as good as advertised. And Gill has been a dominate addition. The benefits are obvious now.
- goals against (http://www.nhl.com/nhlstats/app?formids=PropertySelection_6%2CPropertySelection_7%2CPropertySelection_8%2CSubmit_0&component=reportBuilder.%24SimpleForm_0&page=Home&service=direct&submitmode=&submitname=&PropertySelection_6=0&PropertySelection_7=1&PropertySelection_8=4&Submit_0=Get+Stats)
- post season leaders (http://www.nhl.com/nhlstats/app)
-it's a sham if Alex wins it. Malkin - the 2nd best player on the Pens - carried the team to the top of the Division while Crosby was out. AND he's still doing it in the playoffs. While Alex is still wondering why he didn't shoot the puck...
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
The pens trade deadline deals
The pens lack of defense & goaltending
Who really deserves the Hart
Beating a 5 and 7 seed doesn't change anything. Ovechkin is still the MVP. The trade was still absurd. The Pens still can't win the cup, and Marc Andre Fleury and the lack of defense will be the reason.
Do you live a bubble? Detroit or Dallas would shred the Pens if they can make it to the finals. [/b]
right right, then pens have had no chance of proving anything yet in the playoffs, and have no chance of proving anything going forward. lets not even play the games
grotty, that trade is worth it if they win the cup, and nothing else. hossa and gill were definitely needed additions, though. i'm not going to say ovie didnt deserve the hart, because he did what malkin did for the caps for a bigger part of the season
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
The pens trade deadline deals
The pens lack of defense & goaltending
Who really deserves the Hart
Beating a 5 and 7 seed doesn't change anything. Ovechkin is still the MVP. The trade was still absurd. The Pens still can't win the cup, and Marc Andre Fleury and the lack of defense will be the reason.
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that may be worst thing you've ever written. everyone in here is dumber for having read it.
it is more likely what you hope than what you believe.
because if you believe it - it means you don't know much about hockey & haven't been following along very closely.
it's ok to admit you were very wrong about the trade -
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
right right, then pens have had no chance of proving anything yet in the playoffs, and have no chance of proving anything going forward. lets not even play the games
I didn't say they didn't have a chance to prove anything, simply that they hadn't and won't. Beating the 5, 6, and 7 seed is not a major accomplishment. If they get Montreal in the Eastern finals, and beat them, I'll be impressed. And I still maintain the team has no realistic chance to win the Cup.
The trade is still asinine -- trade away the future of your second and third line for a rental in a season in which you had no viable, realistic shot to win the Cup. Dumb no matter who does it, and the overwhelming majority of hockey fans who aren't Pens rooters agree.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
because if you believe it - it means you don't know much about hockey & haven't been following along very closely.
it's ok to admit you were very wrong about the trade -
I pray nightly for a Wings/Pens final. If the Pens can win a single game it'd be one of the most shocking accomplishments in hockey history. Hell, I'm not sure they could win two against Dallas.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
right right, then pens have had no chance of proving anything yet in the playoffs, and have no chance of proving anything going forward. lets not even play the games
The trade is still asinine -- trade away the future of your second and third line for a rental in a season in which you had no viable, realistic shot to win the Cup. Dumb no matter who does it, and the overwhelming majority of hockey fans who aren't Pens rooters agree. [/b]
Seriously - WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!??!
the future of their 2ND & 3RD lines?!?!?!
The Pens are rolling 4 SOLID lines. They can't even get a healthy Gary Roberts on the ice. They don't miss Armstrong or Christensen even a bit. It's like they never existed. They weren't the future. They were bit role players. The only future they gave up was the Esposito. Who is a big unknown.
Someone who may know a bit more than the "porn star":
http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/183695 (http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/183695)
Allan Muir
One of the toughest tricks of this profession is the deadline day trade breakdown story.
It's really a no-win proposition. Everyone wants to talk about who got the better end of a deal, but at the same time, they realize that the winner -- if there is one -- won't become clear for months, maybe years. Best case scenario: The knee-jerk reactions provide plenty of fodder for fan banter.
Yet, here I am again, strangely compelled to talk about who made the savviest moves as the clock wound down. And really, why not? Last-minute reinforcements have been critical to the late runs, and early playoff success, of several clubs.
Here, then, is my ranking of the most impactful acquisitions (so far) of Deadline Day '08:
1A and B: Adam Foote (photo) and Ruslan Salei: The addition of these hard rock defenders didn't generate much of a splash on deadline day, but their physical presence clearly re-booted the battered Avs blueline. Both are eating up more than 20 minutes a night, and their calm, consistent performance has played a large role in the postseason success of Jose Theodore (Thursday night, notwithstanding). It was primarily the work of Foote and partner Kent Sauer that knocked the starch out of Minnesota's Marian Gaborik, limiting him to just one assist in their first round series.
2 Vaclav Prospal: Ask $52 million man Daniel Briere why he's now playing his best hockey of the season, and he'll point to the arrival of Prospal. Frustrated by the way he was used in Tampa, the crafty left winger found instant chemistry -- and consistent first line minutes -- with Briere in Philly. He's chipped in 23 points in 25 games, including three goals and nine points in the first round series against Washington.
3 Marian Hossa: His average of six shots per game in the first round illustrates the fast chemistry he's found with Sidney Crosby. His two-way game allows the Pens to separate Crosby and Evgeni Malkin, and gives them the two most dangerous lines in the postseason. But his biggest impact may have been cerebral, rather than on the scoreboard. When Ray Shero dealt considerable treasure to acquire the impending free agent, the message was clear: Win now. The Pens are playing like they believe they can.
4. Sergei Fedorov: Perhaps inspired by his rescue from the sinking ship that was the Blue Jackets, the Fedorov who suited up for the Caps was a more aggressive and motivated asset than he'd been in years. He was an ideal replacement for the injured Michael Nylander, adding experience and defensive savvy to a young roster that was aching for veteran leadership.
5. Cristobal Huet: The clock has already struck midnight on Washington's season, but Cinderella wouldn't have made it to the ball in the first place were it not for the reliable play of Huet. He earned criticism for some shaky work in the first two games against the Flyers, but rebounded strongly to help the Caps stretch the series to overtime of the seventh game.
6. Hal Gill: Don't laugh. The defender whose legs appeared rooted into the ice on too many nights with the Leafs has rediscovered his game with the Pens. Credit coach Mike Therrien for slotting him into the proper role, and allowing him to stay within his comfort zone. His simple, physical approach has solidified both the third pairing and the penalty kill, but his best work may be ahead of him. He's been a Jagr-killer his entire career, and Gill's ability to contain the most dangerous Ranger could tilt the series in Pittsburgh's favor.
7 Brad Richards: Although he struggled to find his place in the Stars' lineup leading up to the playoffs, the biggest catch of deadline day appears to have chemistry with a pair of Swedish wingers: Loui Eriksson and Joel Lundqvist. The trio combined for 14 points against the Ducks, and gave the Stars three threatening lines. Still, you have to think he can be better. He'll have to be if Dallas is to get past San Jose.
8. Brian Campbell: Undeniably brilliant down the stretch, Campbell slid seamlessly into San Jose's roster, kickstarting the stalled engine that was the Sharks' transition game. But he's been an underachiever during the playoffs, making a number of questionable decision both with and without the puck. Hey, if he's ranked below Hal Gill, you know he's not meeting expectations
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i'd say its too early to talk about matchups against the west yet, but other than that if the pens dont win the cup, the trade was bad i agree. i enjoy your hyperbolic certainty about the finals going the west's way, though :D
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At City Sports in Chinatown, Rock the Red Caps shirts are for sale. 2 for $5. That's right, 2.50 a piece.
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avery has a lacerated spleen
yikes
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3375123 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3375123)
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i enjoy your hyperbolic certainty about the finals going the west's way, though :D
Any of the 4 best teams in the West (Detroit, Dallas, Anaheim, San Jose) are heads and shoulders above anyone in the east. Maybe Montreal can make a series of it against the weakest of the Western bunch, but no way an Eastern Conference team -- especially the porcelain Penguins -- are beating any of those 4 in a seven-game series.
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my point is there is a lot of hockey to be played before the finals. lots of time for injuries, players to get hot, cool off, ect
and even once the series starts, they still have to play the games
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
avery has a lacerated spleen
yikes
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3375123 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3375123)
damn! not good for us. a pity that we are prob going to lose the series 4-0. so much for the cup in nyc :(
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cuts both ways, though
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08121/877806-100.stm (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08121/877806-100.stm)
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Someone who may know a bit more than the "porn star":
http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/183695 (http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/183695)
Allan Muir
One of the toughest tricks of this profession is the deadline day trade breakdown story.
It's really a no-win proposition. Everyone wants to talk about who got the better end of a deal, but at the same time, they realize that the winner -- if there is one -- won't become clear for months, maybe years. Best case scenario: The knee-jerk reactions provide plenty of fodder for fan banter.
Yet, here I am again, strangely compelled to talk about who made the savviest moves as the clock wound down. And really, why not? Last-minute reinforcements have been critical to the late runs, and early playoff success, of several clubs.
Here, then, is my ranking of the most impactful acquisitions (so far) of Deadline Day '08:
1A and B: Adam Foote (photo) and Ruslan Salei: The addition of these hard rock defenders didn't generate much of a splash on deadline day, but their physical presence clearly re-booted the battered Avs blueline. Both are eating up more than 20 minutes a night, and their calm, consistent performance has played a large role in the postseason success of Jose Theodore (Thursday night, notwithstanding). It was primarily the work of Foote and partner Kent Sauer that knocked the starch out of Minnesota's Marian Gaborik, limiting him to just one assist in their first round series.
Tonight has shown using Alan Muir's insightful analysis to back up your homerism is like having Rev. Wright as your spiritual adviser.
Detroit 8 - Avs 2 and series sweep.
Let's see how Alan Muir's #1a and #1b 'Most Impactful Acquisitions' do?
Foote +/- -3
Salei +/- -3
You really should change that to someone who
really doesn't know a bit more than the "porn star".
<img src="http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/writer_headshots/allan_muir.jpg" alt=" - " />
And is it me or does Mr. Muir look like he belongs here?
Men who look like old lesbians (http://menwholooklikeoldlesbians.blogspot.com/)
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i much as i love the ass-whuppin the wings gave to the boy-loving avs, its bad for the caps:
huet and jose theodore are the only decent free agent talents out there, and theodore only completed one second round game. guess who the money's gonna be thrown at?
the caps have two super euro prospects, but with ollie retiring, they're faced with a big-money long-term deal with huet or relying on rookies in goal next year.
aanyhoo, fuck philly, fuck the avs, LETS GO RED WINGS!
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Originally posted by likorice:
aanyhoo, fuck philly, fuck the avs, LETS GO RED WINGS!
Smartest thing said in this thread.
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Originally posted by slappy:
...gibberish...
Hey Slappy -
Why didn't Ovechkin shoot?
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LETS GO RA'A'ANGERS...LETS GO RA'A'A'ANGERS!!!
I'm rooting for whoever is playing the pittsburgh penfags, unless it's the Philly flying turds, in which case *I hope the stadium implodes during game 1 of the series.
*not really, but you get my point.
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so if/when the pens beat the rangers, the pens will also be making caps bandwagoneers cry? awesome.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
so if/when the pens beat the rangers, the pens will also be making caps bandwagoneers cry? awesome.
Hardly a bandwagoner...I had season tickets to the caps when you were still shitting in your daiper
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i thought you only came here in the 80s
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
the pens will also be making caps bandwagoneers cry? awesome.
A Pen-tard calling other fans bandwagoners!
Too funny!
I think it's safe to say they won't be crying. Using logic, I know, I know ... you Pen-tards hate logic, the definition of a bandwagoner is someone that doesn't care unless the team is winning.
However Crosby crying in the next round is a guarantee.
<img src="http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/nhl/photos/crosby_loss.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by likorice:
aanyhoo, fuck philly, fuck the avs, LETS GO RED WINGS!
Smartest thing said in this thread. [/b]
thank you sir.
again,
LETS GO RED WINGS!!!!!
who else is trying to buy a wings #93 with MULE on the back? johnny franzen went down in history.
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Originally posted by likorice:
who else is trying to buy a wings #93 with MULE on the back? johnny franzen went down in history.
That should be pretty easy to get. Go to nhl.com and get it customized.
I don't buy player's sweaters until they've signed long-term deals, though.
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Originally posted by likorice:
johnny franzen went down in history.
Little early for that. Let's see how he does in the Conference & Cup finals.
Obviously he's been great so far. But he's still emerging from the shadows of Zetterberg, Datsyuk, and Lidstrom.
Right now he's another testament to how good a team Detroit is. When he raises the cup with more points than Zetterberg, then its history. (Which is highly possible, but they still gotta play the games.)
I do think it's funny the NHL and media keep hyping the 'new' NHL and an 'old' team, somewhat neglected in the media recently, continues to climb to the top.
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LETS GO FLYERS!
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Stanley Cup Finals: Stars in 6
Sacrificial Lamb Bracket: Pens in 7
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i fell asleep in the third OT last night. i'm lame. nabakov's save on richards in the first OT was nothing short of spectacular. same with morrow's hit on michalek at the end of regulation.
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Stars 6
Flyers 6
Lets Go Flyers!
Nabbys save was the save of the playoffs.
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Originally posted by BookerT:
i fell asleep in the third OT last night. i'm lame. nabakov's save on richards in the first OT was nothing short of spectacular. same with morrow's hit on michalek at the end of regulation.
I fell asleep with about 5 minutes to go in the 2nd OT but woke up with the TV still on at the start of the 4th.
Both Turco and Nabakov made saves in that first OT that were transcendent.
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ROUND ONE
2-2 in the West.
4-0 in the East.
ROUND TWO
1-1 in the West.
2-0 in the East.
CONFERENCE FINALS
Wings in 6.
Pens in 7.
The funny part is, I watch A LOT more Western Conference hockey than Eastern Conference hockey, but you sure wouldn't know it by my picks.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
I fell asleep with about 5 minutes to go in the 2nd OT but woke up with the TV still on at the start of the 4th.
i was hoping that would happen to me but when i woke up around 4:30 it was just whatever infomercial happened to be on VS at that time.
i really gave up on hockey completely around the time of the strike and have just started watching more and it's amazing how much the rule changes have opened things up. i know this is old news to all of you, but man, how did it take so long to get rid of the dreaded two-line pass rule? combined with the lack of tv timeouts in OTs it really made for some great, freewheeling, non-stop action.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
The funny part is, I watch A LOT more Western Conference hockey than Eastern Conference hockey, but you sure wouldn't know it by my picks.
i am the opposite, watching and mispicking the east, in the first round anyway.
i'll go
Pens in 5
Wings in 6
did i mention i win $1500 if the Pens win the east?
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i went from watching either the pens or the wiz every night in the playoffs to having the whole work week with neither. already getting the shakes, friday cant come soon enough
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
Originally posted by vansmack:
The funny part is, I watch A LOT more Western Conference hockey than Eastern Conference hockey, but you sure wouldn't know it by my picks.
i am the opposite, watching and mispicking the east, in the first round anyway.
i'll go
Pens in 5
Wings in 6
did i mention i win $1500 if the Pens win the east? [/b]
How many teams did you put money on Sonic?!?!
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
The trade is still asinine -- trade away the future of your second and third line for a rental in a season in which you had no viable, realistic shot to win the Cup. Dumb no matter who does it, and the overwhelming majority of hockey fans who aren't Pens rooters agree.
Still holding tight to that opinion Jules? If so - you'll never get a job writing for the NY Times:
May 6, 2008
The Rangers May Pursue the Player Who Ended Their Season
By LYNN ZINSER
For all of the talk during the Rangersâ?? second-round playoff series about the Penguinsâ?? young superstars, Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin, it is significant that neither one scored the series-winning goal in overtime in Game 5. Instead, Marian Hossa ended up being the star.
The Penguins acquired Hossa at the trading deadline in late February, bringing him in as their hoped-for final piece of the puzzle. At the time, acquiring Hossa came with built-in perils. The Penguinsâ?? identity was its core of young players, a team built from within and largely through the draft.
Hossa, 29, came with significant baggage for a player of his age and skill. He had already been traded in a major deal once, from Ottawa to Atlanta before the 2005-6 season, and he had developed a reputation for disappearing in the playoffs. When the Penguins sent some promising young players to Atlanta for Hossa, an unrestricted free agent at seasonâ??s end, even Penguins management acknowledged the gamble.
â??I knew when I came here that they were looking for a long run, and that it was risky because you never know how a trade is going to work,â?ť Hossa said. â??So far, itâ??s working, and itâ??s a great feeling.â?ť
As it turned out, Hossa became the round peg to fit the Penguinsâ?? round hole. He plays right wing to Crosbyâ??s center and becomes a finisher for many of the scoring plays Crosby starts. It also allows Malkin to play on the Penguinsâ?? second line, giving them two offensive lines that scare opponents.
<img src="http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/media.canada.com/idl/sasp/20080505/97519-32578.jpg" alt=" - " />
or Fox Sports:
Hossa shines as Pens advance
Inside Hockey
Why the Penguins won: Regardless of whether the Penguins are able to sign Marian Hossa after the season, the 29-year-old forward has more than justified Pittsburgh's decision to acquire him at the trade deadline. In Game 5, Hossa shed the label of being a guy who can't score in the playoffs in dramatic fashion, notching two goals, including the series-winner 7:10 into overtime.
or the Canadian Press:
The Penguins are also a different team since trade deadline day. Adding a star player like Hossa gave centre Sidney Crosby the linemate he was missing, giving the Penguins two top scoring lines.
"We had tried so many guys there in the past, to varying degrees of success," Penguins GM Ray Shero said Monday from Pittsburgh. "Hossa really solidified our top-six forwards, no question."
Shero got Hossa and forward Pascal Dupuis from Atlanta in exchange for forwards Colby Armstrong, Erik Christensen, former first-rounder Angelo Esposito plus a 2008 first-round pick.
Hossa has 10 points (5-5) in nine playoff games and a plus-3 rating...he led all players in the Eastern Conference semifinal series with four goals and 20 shots.
"The way he plays both sides of the puck ... he does a lot of good things for us," said Shero.
Dupuis is no throw-in, either. He's played on a line with Crosby and Hossa, putting up five points (1-4) in the playoffs. In addition to Shero's pickup of defenceman Hal Gill from Toronto at the trade deadline, the Penguins addressed another key area.
"Dupuis and Gill are two guys that helped our penalty killing, which wasn't great during the regular season," said Shero. "And it's been good in the playoffs (ranked second overall) and it's going to need to be good against Philadelphia, that's for sure."
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some good news: don cherry will be joining espn for the eastern conference finals and the cup finals.
i really miss the superior coverage that the cbc provides, so it'll be awesome to get some grapes. he's also donating his espn salary to the humane society. what a softie...
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Still holding tight to that opinion Jules?
Yes, it was.
If the trade was such a gamechanger, kindly explain to me -- in your view of things -- whether the Pens would've lost to a lameduck Ottawa team who'd been in the toilet the second half of the season in the first round, or to a punchless Rangers team in the second round. Because if you're of the belief (as I am) that they would've beaten those teams without Hossa, then -- gasp!! -- Hossa hasn't made a difference yet.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
Originally posted by vansmack:
The funny part is, I watch A LOT more Western Conference hockey than Eastern Conference hockey, but you sure wouldn't know it by my picks.
i am the opposite, watching and mispicking the east, in the first round anyway.
i'll go
Pens in 5
Wings in 6
did i mention i win $1500 if the Pens win the east? [/b]
How many teams did you put money on Sonic?!?! [/b]
just Pittsburgh, as soon as Ottawa started choking it up, and Malkin stepped in even when Crosby was out, i knew it was time to pull the trigger on a futures bet.
I dont hedge. I figured Montreal and Detroit were the best teams til the Habs traded Huet. Cause a veteran high powered offense and doodie in the playoffs unless you have sold experienced goalies to back em up. The Pens, they have enough scoring to make up for the fact that Fluery aint the best goalie in town.
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Sheeze...is that stanley cup thing still going on??
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Sheeze...is that stanley cup thing still going on??
Yes - Caps fan - the NHL season DOES extend into May & June. Your ignorance is understandable tho. ;)
On an unrelated note:
<img src="http://www.post-gazette.com//pg/images/200805/20080507pd_penguinsmain_500.jpg" alt=" - " />
Gary Roberts is so tough:
He can kill two stones with one bird
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Sheeze...is that stanley cup thing still going on??
Yes - Caps fan - the NHL season DOES extend into May & June. Your ignorance is understandable tho. ;)
On an unrelated note:
<img src="http://www.post-gazette.com//pg/images/200805/20080507pd_penguinsmain_500.jpg" alt=" - " />
Gary Roberts is so tough:
He can kill two stones with one bird [/b]
is that you in the background holding up the Pens sign? nice 'stache.
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
is that you in the background holding up the Pens sign? nice 'stache.
Nah - I don't like the glass seats.
I think Rosvial wet his pants in that pic.
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<img src="http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/nhl/20072008/462626.jpg" alt=" - " />
OUT - bloodclot
Flyers forum - top post:
"F U Hockey Gods
We're never ever gonna win anything in our lifetime. Never."
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Timonen out for playoffs with blood clot
By Tim Panaccio
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Flyers defenseman Kimmo Timonen was diagnosed with a blood clot in his left ankle today. He will be out for the remainder of the playoffs.
The diagnosis was made at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania, Timonen said.
"I got hit with a shot in Game 4 against Montreal," said Timonen, 33. "It's been getting sorer and sorer every day. We thought we'd get it checked out because it didn't get better and they found a blood clot.
"This was just an awful day for me. I played in Game 5 in Montreal, but it was really hurting me. I have to be honest: I didn't expect this result. How many times in your life do you get a chance to play for this, with a chance to go to the Stanley Cup Finals? This is just awful."
Timonen did not make the trip to Pittsburgh for tomorrow's start of the Eastern Conference finals against the Penguins.
The Flyers plan an announcement later tonight.
"We're still trying to get more information," said general manager Paul Holmgren.
Timonen is the club's best defenseman. He was expected to play against the Penguins' dangerous Evgeni Malkin in the series. His loss could have a huge impact on the Flyers' chances
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I saw that earlier on hockeybuzz. Huge blow for the Flyers' chances.
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We're pretty tanked on gin here in the Julian house following the Red Wings victory! GO WINGS!!
/drunk post
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Pens vs. Flyers game 1
Didn't think the refs would attempt to give the Flyers an advantage going into the game. Lot's of missed calls.
The Flyers are clearly missing Kimmo more than they let on.
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Ribiero better get suspended for that cheap-y to Ozzie's face at the end. Why must every team over the last few years, after discovering they've inevitably lost the series, baseball bat a Red Wing?
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Ribiero better get suspended for that cheap-y to Ozzie's face at the end. Why must every team over the last few years, after discovering they've inevitably lost the series, baseball bat a Red Wing?
Yeah, it was cheap, but so was Ozzie's butt end at Ribiero as he skated behind the net.
It was to his chest protector, not the face and Ozzie did some pretty good acting after the swing. If he wasn't acting, I'd be blasting some slap shots at him the next game.
They we both getting a little cheap, I'd let it go if I was the league.
It was good for heating things up for the next game.
I wouldn't rush Mule back. They'll easily take the Stars without him.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Ribiero better get suspended for that cheap-y to Ozzie's face at the end. Why must every team over the last few years, after discovering they've inevitably lost the series, baseball bat a Red Wing?
Because it's fun?
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Originally posted by slappy:
I wouldn't rush Mule back. They'll easily take the Stars without him.
You can't risk a player with that much upside and potential's career, no way. They have to make sure he's fine before bringing him back.
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Nice job by the refs snatching the broom from the Wings last night.
'Goaltender Interference' has become a Rorschach test for refs in the playoffs this year.
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bump
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so is a network going to pick up the finals, or will it be Versus all the way til the end?
2007-08 Stanley Cup playoffs -- Cup finals schedule
The complete schedule for the 2008 Stanley Cup finals (all times ET; * -- if necessary):
No. 1 Detroit Red Wings vs. No. 2 Pittsburgh Penguins
Game 1, May 24 (Sat) - Pittsburgh at Detroit, 8 p.m.
Game 2, May 26 (Mon) - Pittsburgh at Detroit, 8 p.m.
Game 3, May 28 (Wed) - Detroit at Pittsburgh, 8 p.m.
Game 4, May 31 (Sat) - Detroit at Pittsburgh, 8 p.m.
*-Game 5, June 2 (Mon) - Pittsburgh at Detroit, 8 p.m.
*-Game 6, June 4 (Wed) - Detroit at Pittsburgh, 8 p.m.
*-Game 7, June 7 (Sun) - Pittsburgh at Detroit, 8 p.m.
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game 1 and 2 are on vs, the balance is on nbc
is julian going to watch?
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
game 1 and 2 are on vs, the balance is on nbc
is julian going to watch?
why wouldnt he want to? if i was him i would not be able to contain myself.
Wings in 6. (and i'm being generous)
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
is julian going to watch?
I hope to get tickets to 4 and 5. Obviously I'm going to watch all of it.
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because its over. they shouldnt even play the games
im going to a wedding in pittsburgh during game 4. the bride is not going to be happy
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
because its over. they shouldnt even play the games
Nah, Pittsburgh will get a win... then their team will be obliterated by free agency like the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette said this morning.
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oh yeah right
except they said the opposite
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
oh yeah right
except they said the opposite
Oh yeah right.
Except they said exactly what I've been saying for a while.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08141/883238-61.stm (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08141/883238-61.stm)
The truth is that this team, as currently constituted, has a limited shelf life. Seven more games, max.
Not just because NHL rosters are almost constantly in a state of flux, with pieces being added or removed. The Penguins aren't facing the usual offseason personnel changes all teams experience; they're facing the possibility of something more like a seismic upheaval.
Of the 26 players on their NHL roster at the moment, 12 will qualify for unrestricted free agency July 1.
They are forwards Marian Hossa, Ryan Malone, Jarkko Ruutu, Gary Roberts, Pascal Dupuis, Adam Hall, Georges Laraque, Jeff Taffe and Kris Beech, defensemen Brooks Orpik and Mark Eaton and goalie Ty Conklin.
Include goalie Marc-Andre Fleury, who is eligible for restricted free agency -- that means the Penguins can retain him by matching any offer he receives from another team or receive compensation if they would opt against doing so -- and it's easy to see why it's almost inconceivable that general manager Ray Shero will be able to keep the core of his team intact.
Not because ownership lacks the resources -- upper management has made it clear that Shero will be allowed to spend as much as he deems necessary, even if it means operating at a loss next season -- but because the Penguins won't have the salary-cap space.
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what you said was the hossa trade was stupid, but that sure sounds like a great argument to do it
the pg also take the opposite stance: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08141/883233-87.stm (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08141/883233-87.stm)
I don't buy the argument that the Penguins won't be as good as they are now because of the players they are going to lose. If Shero can get deals done with Fleury, Malkin and Staal, it will be a tremendous offseason. All three, along with Crosby, are going to get better and better. And it's not as if Shero won't be able to lure more reasonably priced free agents here to play with that nucleus. There are other Petr Sykoras out there. It was Sykora who said "it took me about two minutes to decide this is where I wanted to be" when he was a free agent last summer.
Losing Hossa, Orpik and especially Malone would hurt, but it would not doom the Penguins as a Cup contender.
besides youve been dismissing whats in the pg for months
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
what you said was the hossa trade was stupid, but that sure sounds like a great argument to do it
No, you've been missing the entire contention of my argument for months: the Hossa trade is stupid NOT PRIMARILY because Hossa wasn't going to resign, but because they traded away viable, cheap under-contract 2nd and 3rd line players for him when anyone who's ever looked at nhlnumbers.com knew the Penguins were going to have an impending free agent crush EVEN WITHOUT Hossa.
Regardless of Hossa, they were going to have to sign Malkin, MAF, and Staal to long-term deals over the next 14 months, which anyone with a calculator and a general sense of what players go for nowadays knew was going to cause them to have to lose some of their secondary guys like Malone, Roberts, Ruutu, etc. So what does the franchise do in anticipation of this? Keep cheap, viable NHL talent to softwn the blow? No, they trade it away for a rental player in a season in which the East was so limp they likely could have won it without said rental player. Slappy keeps going, "Oh, those players aren't as good as who we already have" never taking a second to look 14 months into the future and realize they're alot better then who you very likely will turn up having. That's why the Hossa trade is stupid, imo. It's a Carolina Hurricanes or Tampa Bay Lightning trade, and we've seen what happens after those teams got their one cup run in.
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but armstrong and christensen are restricted free agents after next season anyway. if they are valuable players on a conference championship team, they will be overvalued just like malone, ruutu, orpik ect will be next year. go for broke this year, then resign malkin/staal/maf.
its kind of hard to see how the future of the cap will shake out, but it looks like teams in the nhl are going to spend big on stars, and role players will get screwed. role players will come to teams that they will look good on so they can get robbie brown/john cullen contracts
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
but armstrong and christensen are restricted free agents after next season anyway. if they are valuable players on a conference championship team, they will be overvalued just like malone, ruutu, orpik ect will be next year. go for broke this year, then resign malkin/staal/maf.
The bidding is never as furious for RFAs as UFAs. If someone would, hypothetically, sign Armstrong or Christensen away for 3+ million deals, you realize the draft picks the Pens would get back in return? At least you're getting something back then.
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of course they would get something. i cant see those guys getting long deals and the other free agents they have other than the big 3 not getting deals. plus the hossa trade kept him off of the habs, which at the time looked important. i agree that its a pretty dangerous trade, but if they cant win a cup with hossa and malone, i cant see them winning one with armstrong and christensen, even if they could have kept them
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LETS GO REDWANKS...LETS GO REDWANKS...LETS GO REDWANKS!!!
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Slappy keeps going, "Oh, those players aren't as good as who we already have" never taking a second to look 14 months into the future and realize they're alot better then who you very likely will turn up having. That's why the Hossa trade is stupid, imo. [/b]
You've utterly disgraced me.
I'm not a Pen-tard, therefore, I would've never said the Hossa trade was smart.
Well, it was smart if they wanted to go deep this year and be content getting knocked out in the first round for the foreseeable future.
Resigning Beech should be their first priority in the off season. :D
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Originally posted by slappy:
You've utterly disgraced me.
I'm not a Pen-tard, therefore, I would've never said the Hossa trade was smart.
Sorry, the on-going cacophony between yourself and I'm Her Slave have blended the two of you into one person in my feeble mind.
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Got game 5 tickets. $230 per. Ouch.
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thats it? honestly i would have thought more
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
thats it? honestly i would have thought more
Upstairs, in-the-corner. Best I could get.
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i was guessing you were going to spend $1500.00 on tickets for those two games
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i was guessing you were going to spend $1500.00 on tickets for those two games
If I was buying scalped seats, it probably would go that high.
Pittsburgh is going to be even harder to get tickets to since Mellon Arena isn't that big. Still, I think all the Wings tickets sold out almost instantly. I had to submit my order like 20 times before it found tickets, so I got really lucky.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
I pray nightly for a Wings/Pens final. If the Pens can win a single game it'd be one of the most shocking accomplishments in hockey history.
God listens to you Julian.
Now I'm going to pray for "one of the most shocking accomplishments in hockey history."
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right, they only have 1,000 tickets available too. kind of assumed you were getting scalped tickets, though
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$230 face/ticket, for the crappiest seat in the arena?!?
wow.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
$230 a ticket, for the crappiest seat in the arena?!?
The very top 2-3 rows of seats are like $130 and standing room only tickets are $99.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
$230 a ticket, for the crappiest seat in the arena?!?
The very top 2-3 rows of seats are like $130 and standing room only tickets are $99. [/b]
Is Hockeytown Cafe attached to the Joe? Wonder what the cover will be to get in.
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No pre-game chatter?
Me - I'm just hoping that the Pens can even score a goal against this team. :D
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Me - I'm just hoping that the Pens can even score a goal against this team. :D
Keep hoping, motherfucka!!
I feel like the weight of the world has been lifted off my shoulders. We can do this!!
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no pre-game blah blah, but i was exchanging in-game text messages with jules... he had me in stitches. thanks for making the game that much more entertaining. the girlfriend totally wanted to meet you until she read that last one you sent :D
i'm hoping the pens simply had an off night, 'cause the powerplay and third period shots on goal they showed last night won't make for a long series.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
the girlfriend totally wanted to meet you until she read that last one you sent :D
Wait, what did I say?
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"my gf is getting what Samuelsson deserves!"
:D
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Me - I'm just hoping that the Pens can even score a goal against this team. :D
Keep hoping, motherfucka!!
I feel like the weight of the world has been lifted off my shoulders. We can do this!! [/b]
Still hoping for that goal tonight! ;)
Wings look great. Tough to tell how good - I watched the game in a crowded pub & was quite loopy by the end. Eager to watch the game tonight from home...or maybe not if it ends up the same.
It's a strange feeling this Cup series. I feel 0 animosity toward the Red Wings. They are a likable team.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
"my gf is getting what Samuelsson deserves!"
:D
I meant attention, not something lurid, for the record.
She's been a real trooper putting up with me through this entire cup run.
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Franzen still out for game 2.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Franzen still out for game 2.
Whoa, back up the trolley, Jolly! TSN, Eklund, and the Free Press do an about face; Babcock is saying he's gotten last second clearance to play. McCarty appears out, but he's played in a game already so his name is on the Cup if Detroit wins.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Still hoping for that goal tonight! ;)
Keep hoping, I guess.
No offense to I'm Her Slave personally, but I'm laughing at all the idiots who insisted Pittsburgh's offense was too powerful to be overcame and that Fleury was better then Osgood. Uh, ok...
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I don't know what's more pathetic.
The Pens being swept AND shutout or the cheap shots to Franzen's head by Roberts and Whitney.
Stay classy Pittsburgh.
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NEWSFLASH!! THIS JUST IN
The equipment manager has reportedly found the sticks for the Shittsburgh Penfags, which had been obviously missing for the two games in Detroit.
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Agree with all this:
Detroit's domination has Penguins dazed, confused (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08148/885106-87.stm)
They are a mess. You could see it in their eyes.
That old cliche: squeezing the stick too tightly? Never understood it until now. Whiffing on slapshots - missing pucks laying in the crease.
What changed since the 1st period Saturday nite? - which was anybody's series @ that time. Excellent up & down hockey with many chances by both teams. Since that intermission it's been all Red Wing domination. Gotta credit Babcock - he made some change & Therrien isnt' figuring it out.
When a team is playing well - it looks like they have an extra guy on the ice. That's what this series has become: A whole lot of red jerseys.
I thought there might be a lot of outcomes in this series but I never thought it would be a Time Since Last Penguins Goal ticker...
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i've nearly vomitted several times, and this was what we kind of expected. good times
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lidstrom needs to watch his back if he wants to keep his C. did you see datsyuk swing twice in game 2?
ever hear of someone forfeiting the lady byng?
ha! this one's over. pens might get one, but its all wings. got a tic for game 4, an octopus vendor, a cooler, and a ringer.
LETS GO RED WINGS!
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Irony City
Penguins look to lock Red Wings fans out of finals (http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/05/27/penguins-look-to-lock-red-wings-fan-out-of-finals/)
Shittsburgh got their panties in a bunch when the Caps did this a few years ago. A Department of Justice attorney threatened to sue until it was finally lifted.
I jumped on Ticketmaster earlier and got two tixs for tonite's game and immediately put them up on a Red Wings board for face value + the b.s. fees. Snatched up in minutes.
Pittsburgh can't suck more.
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Bitterness.
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there were still tickets available today? thats surprising
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i'd say they (the pens/ticketmaster) have an interstate commerce problem if somebody has the balls to do something about it.
everyone knows the pens WILL win their home games anyway, right? yeah, right.
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its kind of silly to restrict the sale of a thousand tickets that sold out in 5 minutes anyway. but who here cares (besides the caps fan that got tickets anyway). did our weblebrity get tickets to game 4?
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
its kind of silly to restrict the sale of a thousand tickets that sold out in 5 minutes anyway. but who here cares (besides the caps fan that got tickets anyway). did our weblebrity get tickets to game 4?
The Pens are on silly streak might as well keep it rolling.
They were Standing Room Only tixs. I went back about 10 minutes later and the equivalent of a busy signal in web page form popped up.
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2-1.
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Originally posted by yinzer:
2-1.
We got a series now - great hockey last night: flow & tremendous hitting. SICNN:
"In a showcase Game 3 that ranks in excitement and physicality and sheer quality with any match in the past five finals..."
Game 4 is gonna be FUN. Detroit will treat it as a must win...just like the Pens.
Pens still not converting chances like they usually do. If they can/do - this could get real good.
How about that shift by Orpik last night - 5 hits in the corner?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=S2ITHCbHQVQ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=S2ITHCbHQVQ)
The key to the series def appears to be SCORE FIRST and avoid the other's trap.
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disagree that there is a trap of any kind. big difference between fast, talented forwards making it back to help on D and the jacques lemaire trap of the mid 90s. in these games the puck has been moving zone to zone pretty quick. love the elimination of the two-line pass rule.
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The only downside to Cup #11 is that it has to be won against a second or third-tier team like the Pittsburgh Porcelains. What an embarrassment to the league.
Sure hope you Pentards enjoyed trading your next few seasons away to have your players crap their diapers and your coach do his best blubbering vagina impression.
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classy
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
classy
We stopped being classy when Shittsburgh banned MI residents from buying ticketmaster tickets.
The kids shouldn't poke Daddy if they don't want a spanking.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
The only downside to Cup #11 is that it has to be won against a second or third-tier team like the Pittsburgh Porcelains.
man, i can only imagine how you feel about Cup #9.
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kind of a weak excuse to turn into a blubbering vagina, but ok
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Originally posted by BookerT:
man, i can only imagine how you feel about Cup #9.
We got over it because we got Konstantinov out on the ice pretty quickly, but you're right. To be honest, #10 was a pretty terrible opponent too, but I can't get down too far on any team with Ron Francis.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
kind of a weak excuse to turn into a blubbering vagina, but ok
I was working on my Michel Therrien impression.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Sure hope you Pentards enjoyed trading your next few seasons away to have your players crap their diapers and your coach do his best Crosby impression.
Speaking of crap, the TV rights have to be taken away from NBC aka the Nothing But Crosby network.
Their website even blows, on their main hockey page article titles with:
Crosby = 18
Zetterberg = 7
Osgood = 5
Malkin = 4
Holmstrom = 2
Datsyuk = 2
And Milbury is the biggest tool of all the announcers.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
I pray nightly for a Wings/Pens final. If the Pens can win a single game it'd be one of the most shocking accomplishments in hockey history.
At least we got to see one of the "most shocking accomplishments in hockey history." :roll:
I bet you have all these in your closet too:
Yankees hat
Duke jersey
Lakers wrist band
Cowboys tank top
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
I bet you have all these in your closet too:
Yankees hat
Duke jersey
Lakers wrist band
Cowboys tank top
I don't like any of those; I'm from Detroit.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
I bet you have all these in your closet too:
Yankees hat
Duke jersey
Lakers wrist band
Cowboys tank top
I don't like any of those; I'm from Detroit. [/b]
Well - you prob have a closet full of Lions gear then also...
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Well - you prob have a closet full of Lions gear then also...
I revel in their terrible-ness. I don't know what I'd do with myself if they were actually decent.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Well - you prob have a closet full of Lions gear then also...
I revel in their terrible-ness. I don't know what I'd do with myself if they were actually decent. [/b]
Yes - you'd be quite intolerable with a good Lions team + Pistons & Wings.
I'm finding it hard to dislike the Wings still (except when you make probably drunken celebratory posts like the one way above ;) )
Zetterberg exemplified the team best with his immediate post-game comments after Sid was yelling his way.
I can handle the Pens losing to this team. Tho I'm hoping for some drama tonight.
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not playing the wings very often certainly does not generate much heat going into the series, but at the end of the day the wings play good hockey. they dont over rely on a killer defense or offense, they always play the same plan and they skate their asses off. kudos to them, the wings are good for the nhl
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i realize the wings are good, great even, but I have had just about enough of non wing fans praising them, we are supposed to hate the wings, get on board
-suffering Blues fan
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T-Minus 2:18 before my flight to Hockey Town leaves!
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
i realize the wings are good, great even, but I have had just about enough of non wing fans praising them, we are supposed to hate the wings, get on board
-suffering Blues fan
If its of any consolation, the Blues made great strides this year and are alot better then their record indicated. They'd have made the playoffs in the East.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
If its of any consolation, the Blues made great strides this year and are alot better then their record indicated. They'd have made the playoffs in the East.
I just hope they continue it next year, I think the entire central if not the entire Western conference would have made the playoffs in the east
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
I think the entire central if not the entire Western conference would have made the playoffs in the east
Probably, but no one on here wants to acknowledge that.
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
I think the entire central if not the entire Western conference would have made the playoffs in the east
now you're talking pure whack. Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Probably, but no one on here wants to acknowledge that.
sure, i'll acknowledge a "maybe" - easy to do for something that we'll never know. but if you think LA could place in the east, you need a rethink. blues were improved, but i don't see them making the cut. the east isn't as strong, true, but it's not a farm league.
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I don't think there's any debate that all 8 western playoff teams would make the playoffs in the East. Next tier: Edmonton, Chicago, Vancouver -- I'm hard-pressed to see any of those missing in the East. Next tier after that: Pheonix, Columbus, St. Louis -- Pheonix and St. Louis would definitely be serious playoff contenders, Columbus not so much. And of course, this leaves the LA Kings who are terrible wherever they play.
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you love tiers
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
you love tiers
My Life Of Tiers (Not Tears)
Holy crap, I'm pretty sure I just came up with the name for the next big emopop band!
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haha, awesome
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No, but seriously, I do love tiers. Give me a list of things and I'd be really psyched to group them.
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Oh I was totally forgetting the kings, easy to do
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
I don't think there's any debate that all 8 western playoff teams would make the playoffs in the East. Next tier: Edmonton, Chicago, Vancouver -- I'm hard-pressed to see any of those missing in the East. Next tier after that: Pheonix, Columbus, St. Louis -- Pheonix and St. Louis would definitely be serious playoff contenders, Columbus not so much. And of course, this leaves the LA Kings who are terrible wherever they play.
Maybe Edmonton and Chicago.
Vancouver, Phoenix, and Columbus were all fizzling out at the end.
Last 10 games.
Van 3-7
Phx 2-8
Col 2-8
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WOW- Triple Overtime
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crap
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<img src="http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2008/06/02/21/200806022152787272797-p2-565x565.jpg" alt=" - " />
"If ONE win is the most shocking accomplishment in hockey history - what does that make TWO??!?!?!?!?!"
-M. Therrien
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congrats to the pens - they'll make a series out of this yet.
would have been nice had they decided to do so in less than triple over time... i have to catch a train to DC in less than 5 hours. crap.
looking forward to wednesday night. not looking forward to julian's tirade :)
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im so tired i can barely see my computer screen
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wow. just wow.
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3-2. back to the 'burgh! look out.
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dont worry Wings fans, the fact that Thierren is a complete jerkwad will soon catch up with him and his merry band of guys who cant even grow playoff beards yet!
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http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080603/COL01/806030423/1053/SPORTS05 (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080603/COL01/806030423/1053/SPORTS05)
35 seconds from the Cup: Celebration turns into moratorium
BY MITCH ALBOM â?˘ FREE PRESS COLUMNIST â?˘ JUNE 3, 2008
You wait. You sweat. You die a little to live a lot. And finally, if it is meant to happen, if it is really your destiny, it will happen. You must believe this if you play NHL hockey.
The Red Wings seemed to play an entire season in a single game Monday night and into the wee hours of Tuesday morning, falling behind, scraping to get back, making mistakes, tripping over their own enthusiasm as the mountaintop came into view. They were down two goals. Then they were down one. Then they were tied.
And then, a little less than halfway through the third period, Brian Rafalski, who grew up in Dearborn, whizzed a shot past Marc-Andre Fleury for a 3-2 lead.
The Wings were back on top -- and you assumed they were staying there. The crowd was on its feet. The Stanley Cup was unloaded. The crowd got louder. The Cup was readied. The crowd was deafening. The Cup was on its way. The city was dreaming about a parade, ready for the biggest hockey party in six years -- and then, with the goalie pulled, with 35 seconds left -- oh, gosh, it even hurts to write it -- Pittsburgh's Maxime Talbot slammed a rebound in past Chris Osgood's left foot, and the crowd, still standing, became 20,000 people who looked as if they'd just witnessed an execution.
And in some ways, they did.
"We felt we had every opportunity to win the game,"
Mike Babcock would say. But he would say it three overtime periods later. And he would say it after the Cup had been put back in its travel case and the Wings had another plane trip back to Pittsburgh.
Not so fast. What was supposed to be a celebration became a moratorium. One overtime. Two overtimes. And finally, in triple overtime, with players sagging and heaving and fans exhausted and hoarse, finally, the worst came to pass. A four-minute penalty on Jiri Hudler for high-sticking Scuderi. Hudler sat in the penalty box. Scuderi was bleeding from the mouth. It was nearly one o'clock in the morning, but you felt the earth move, and you had the feeling, something seismic in the hockey playoffs had just happened.
Moments later, it did. Petr Sykora -- one of the few Penguins who has experienced a Stanley Cup -- fired a shot from the short side, it went past Osgood.
Red light.
And forget about the coronation. Forget about the five-game series. Forget about the parade you might have envisioned in a couple of days.
The Wings are going back to Pittsburgh. And anything can happen.
Not so fast.
Just a crazy, crazy time
"It's the Stanley Cup playoffs," Babcock said after the 4-3 stunner. "It's not supposed to be easy. It's supposed to be a battle."
Oh, it was a battle all right. The overtimes were insane. There were bounces and flips and ricochets and even a shot that flipped up and landed on the Pittsburgh netting. Throughout the overtimes, the Wings were a hair's breath away from winning it all, so many great chances, so much pressure
But let's be honest. The Wings dug their own hole here. After playing one of their best games on the road in Pittsburgh on Saturday night, they came out Monday and played about as bad a first period as you can play on a night like this. Their legs moved like tree stumps, their passes were as accurate as snowflakes, and their luck was just, well, no luck at all. Let's face it: When Niklas Kronwall puts a puck past his own goalie, you're not inclined to run over to the casino.
"I thought we were really nervous," Babcock said. "We didn't make a play in that first period.'
He's right. The Wings were uncorked, unnerved and underwhelming. The pressure of winning a Cup in front of a screaming, hysterical crowd -- easily the loudest of the year -- seemed to drape them in stage fright, and suddenly they were those kids who forget the easy words in the spelling bee. Pittsburgh could at least spell N-E-R-V-E-S and scored two goals in the first 15 minutes. And suddenly, any thoughts of a parade this week were replaced by thoughts of what you were doing Wednesday night, when Game 6 would surely be played, right?
But it's a long game, a long series, and a long road to the Stanley Cup, and nobody said it was smoothly paved all the way. You keep playing. You keep digging. And finally here was Darren Helm, who minutes earlier had a clear breakaway chance and sent the puck halfway to Southfield, but now he took a pass from Kirk Maltby and fired a shot from the right circle, and it hit the skate of a diving Rob Scuderi and went through Fleury's legs for the red light.
And the Wings were off the mat.
The crowd said it all And once off the mat, they were out of the stage fright mode and into frightening mode, and the only team that needed to be scared was Pittsburgh -- because Detroit was on a warpath. It was insane, off-the-hook, furious if not well-choreographed action, diving, and charging, and spinning and checking, revved up players in a revved-up mode, wild passes, countless giveaways, countless breakaways -- all of it sountracked by a frenzied, howling crowd on every second.
Close? How about Pavel Datsyuk's cutting in front of the net and flipping a shot off the crossbar -- the underside of the crossbar -- that required replay review before being denied. The underside of the crossbar?
Close? How about Valtteri Filppula, on a breakaway, seeing the puck interrupted by the stick of Orpik, who was flat on the ice!
Close? Any overtime hockey game is close. You'd need a computer program to log the near misses, the jumping-up moments for the crowd, the choruses of "OOOH!" that rose again and again in overtime. Both teams were exhausted, barely able to produce sweat anymore. You go from Monday to Tuesday, from night hours to night owls. One team playing for a throne, one team playing to avoid extinction.
But anyone who follows playoff hockey knows once you go to triple overtime, it is rarely about the big picture and much more about the small: a tiny mistake, a fortunate bounce.
So when that penalty was called on Hudler, when Sykora -- who had said before the final overtime he would score the winner -- fired that shot and the red light lit, well, you were seeing overtime all right.
And now the series is in overtime as well.
"You just knew it was going in," Babcock lamented. "He's that kind of guy."
Time for a road trip
How could this happen, you ask? Simple. When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose. The Penguins weren't taking a Stanley Cup home this night, no matter what. They had no pressure. No crowd to disappoint. Nothing to lose. And under such circumstances, they found their best game. The Penguins were ferocious. They never let up. They had every reason to let it go, give in to the exhaustion, the injuries, the howling crowd.
Instead, showing moxie beyond their age, they kept fighting. Fleury was beyond terrific, facing 58 shots and stopping so many that could have gone in on some other less star-crossed night. He kept the Pens alive. He is the reason there is another box office date in the Igloo.
Think about it. The Penguins were 35 seconds from going home for the summer, and now they are going home for another game.
There is pressure now on the Wings and to be sure, on Osgood, who only faced four shots in the third period and let the tying goal in. Ozzie has been talking about a calmness in his second act as championship goaltender. He will have to prove it now. And Nicklas Lidstrom, who spoke all about keeping the team clam and even-keeled before this game, will have to do a better job of it for Wednesday. And Babcock will earn his salary as much today and Wednesday as in any two-day period of his time here.
But OK. We've said all that. They go back to Pittsburgh, yes. And it may be little solace at the moment, but they are still in control of this series. They have a 3-2 lead. They have two games to win one. And one of those is back in Joe Louis Arena. The Wings are good on the road, they won Game 4 the last time they were in the Igloo. They are fully capable of winning the Cup there. As Babcock would say, "They're big guys.'
And if they do take it, if they win the crown in a foreign building, they will have learned a valuable lesson: You cannot assume anything. You cannot count your silver before its shined. And pleasing your anxious home crowd can often be the worst type of pressure to live up to.
If the Wings learn all that, and win the Cup, it will be that much more precious, that much sweeter.
And if they don't?
Let's not talk about if they don't right now, OK
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
im so tired i can barely see my computer screen
the 2-hour nap on the train saved me, but yeah - i'm totally beat too. it's going to be a very long day (or, before rhett points it out, it's going to feel like a very long day). totally worth it, tho - that was some great hockey last night.
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i love mitch albom's ear flaps. are ear flaps as omnipresent in detroit as mullets are (or used to be) in pittsburgh?
i'm going to detroit for a wedding later this month. i could grow some.
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I wanted two more periods myself...it wasn't even 10 O'clock yet!
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
not looking forward to julian's tirade :)
he's busy right now:
<img src="http://www.huddlestonhypnotherapy.co.nz/images/cd_nailbiting2.jpg" alt=" - " />
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eh, i think it will be tier two tirade at best. he was there, but its only game 5
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
eh, i think it will be tier two tirade at best. he was there, but its only game 5
Seriously - how great was that game?
Stan Savran just said it ranked with the Immaculate Reception & Maz'z HR in Pitt sports lore.
Pitt news also reporting that Fleury squirted Al the Octopi twirler with his water bottle pre-game. He alleges that he just missed his mouth.
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i mean, it was awesome. but its not near either if they dont win the next two games. even in recent memory i was more blown away by <img src="http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/aagu124-tackle_b~Ben-Roethlisberger-2005-Playoffs-Posters.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i mean, it was awesome. but its not near either if they dont win the next two games. even in recent memory i was more blown away by :p
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Pops 2 Run HR in game 7 of the 79 World Series is still tops of my list.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Pops 2 Run HR in game 7 of the 79 World Series is still tops of my list.
ah yes, the sport that ended when barry bonds threw sid bream out at the plate and the stupid ass ump called him safe. i remember that sport
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Pops 2 Run HR in game 7 of the 79 World Series is still tops of my list.
ah yes, the sport that ended when barry bonds threw sid bream out at the plate and the stupid ass ump called him safe. i remember that sport [/b]
yeah, blame the ump for barry having a terrible arm. but, maybe he should have listened to andy van slyke (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Answer-Man-Andy-Van-Slyke-talks-slugging-Bonds-?urn=mlb,80289)
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We should all listen to Andy Van Slyke.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Pops 2 Run HR in game 7 of the 79 World Series is still tops of my list.
ah yes, the sport that ended when barry bonds threw sid bream out at the plate and the stupid ass ump called him safe. i remember that sport [/b]
yeah, blame the ump for barry having a terrible arm. but, maybe he should have listened to andy van slyke (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Answer-Man-Andy-Van-Slyke-talks-slugging-Bonds-?urn=mlb,80289) [/b]
but...he was out by a mile. perfectly fine throw
if we want really put the blame on a player, its stan belinda for walking fucking damon berryhill in the midst of an .093 or so year
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By Joe Starkey
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, June 4, 2008
Going into Game 5, Sidney Crosby said the Penguins needed to "empty the tank."
One look around the locker room after the game was enough to see this much: The cliche had come true, in ways no one could have imagined.
It was 1:15 Tuesday morning, about a half-hour after the fifth-longest Stanley Cup final game ever played, when somebody wondered why Crosby looked as if he hadn't broken a sweat.
"It's all gone," Crosby said. "No more sweat left."
If you've seen one postgame locker room in professional sports, you've pretty much seen them all. But this one was different.
This one looked like a hospital ward.
Forget about Game 6 for a minute. That'll be here soon enough. The surreal scene in the aftermath of the Penguins' 4-3, triple-overtime victory on Monday - er, Tuesday - deserves a bit more attention.
No matter what happens the rest of the series, which the Penguins still trail, 3-2, this team long will be remembered for its incredibly courageous effort.
Surely, this was a top-five win in franchise history.
The first player I encountered afterward was battered winger Ryan Malone, blood still dripping from his nose. He'd been cracked "right in the beak" by teammate Hal Gill's second-period slap shot.
Malone sustained a chipped tooth, another broken nose (his second of the series) and a nasty gash. The medical staff stitched him up and stuffed some cotton in his beak. He barely missed a shift.
"Could you even breathe?" a reporter wondered.
"Out of my mouth," Malone said. "That's good enough."
Defenseman Brooks Orpik and winger Adam Hall still had gauze wrapped around their right elbows, thanks to a round of intravenous fluids. By one observer's count, seven players needed IVs at some point in the evening.
Can you imagine what that locker room must have looked like between the second and third overtimes?
"We had fruit, we had pizza, we had guys on IVs, guys pounding fluid," said winger Pascal Dupuis.
The fare included grilled chicken, pasta, pizza, apples, oranges and protein shakes, but to hear the players tell it, they didn't exactly pig out. They picked at the food, eating just enough to stay energized.
They also were reminded not to eat too much of the cheese and pepperoni on the pizza - that would slow them down - but rather the crust. Goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury advised team physician Charles Burke that he wasn't hungry, to which Burke basically said, "Eat anyway."
Equipment manager Dana Heinze said he and his assistants, Paul DeFazio and Danny Kroll, were running around like crazy, sharpening skates (Crosby likes his done after every period) and making sure the players' equipment was in working order. Most players went through three sets of undergarments.
"They just wanted dry laundry," Heinze said.
Amid the mayhem, winger Petr Sykora announced to his teammates that he would score the winning goal.
"We were being positive, pumping each other up and getting each other going, and 'Sicks' kind of stands up and says, 'I think I got one, boys,' " Hall said. "Everybody starts hootin' and hollerin'. We loved it."
They loved it even more when Sykora rifled a shot past Chris Osgood at 9:57 of the third overtime -- when everybody on both teams was running on empty.
The players had no choice but to move on quickly and start thinking about Game 6 tonight at Mellon Arena, where a positively batty crowd will greet them.
More history could be written before the series is finished, but make no mistake: Game 5 will live forever.
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There's so much great stuff out there...just classic:
"As someone who did not get home until 2:30 in the morning on Monday after being at the game I still want to VOMIT. My stomach still hurts from this game. I did however buy a stuffed penguin and hung it upside down in the kitchen for us to beat on. That penguin better watch out, I am going to give it to our dogs to beat the stuffing out of if we don't win tonight."
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â??I don't think anybody really watches hockey any more,â?ť - Tiger Woods
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the whining continues:
Wings coach Babcock questions officiating, takes shot at Pens coach Therrien (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3424865)
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
â??I don't think anybody really watches hockey any more,â?ť - Tiger Woods
well he's black, so it's understandable that he might think that. no, wait, rhett has already confirmed that tiger isn't black. there goes that explanation.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
the whining continues:
Wings coach Babcock questions officiating, takes shot at Pens coach Therrien (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3424865)
I believe that makes him a "blubbering vagina."
Where's Jules? Still traumatized? However unlikely it may be - imagine if the Pens steal another one tonight?!?!?
Here's some therapy courtesy hometown rag:
BY MICHAEL ROSENBERG â?˘ FREE PRESS COLUMNIST â?˘ JUNE 4, 2008
There is a word for how the Red Wings lost Game 5, and that word is "&^@%&*%#*&!!!"
Hey, Game 6 is tonight, so it's time to move on. ... But seriously, if you're a Wings fan, how miserable was that? I mean, I won't dwell on it, tonight's game is what matters. ... But honestly, was that like the worst thing ever to happen to anybody or what?
OK, OK. Of course it could have been worse. It could have been Game 7. It could have put the Wings down 3-2 in the series, instead of leaving them with a 3-2 lead. And, yeah, one could argue that there are more important things than a hockey game featuring a bunch of players you have probably never met.
But if you're a sports fan, the Wings' 4-3 triple-overtime loss in Game 5 was excruciating on several levels. And sometimes, it's good to re-live the pain. After all, anybody can enjoy a win. Only a true fan suffers in defeat.
How bad was it? Let us count the ways ...
1. The obvious: The Wings were less than a minute away from hoisting the Stanley Cup.
When was the last time a Detroit team had a championship ripped away like this?...
2. They had to play three overtimes.
Sometimes, you just invest more in a game. That was the case for the fans Monday night, and it was surely the case for the Wings.
When you play two games' worth of hockey and lose, it feels like two losses.
3. The Wings are the older team.
I don't buy that this loss will wipe out the Wings tonight. But the fact is that older bodies don't recover as quickly as younger bodies, especially after a triple-overtime loss.
4. Wings defenseman Niklas Kronwall scored one of the Penguins' goals.
Hey, it's hockey. Pucks go off skates and into the net all the time. But rarely do you see a defenseman shoot the puck into his own net.
This wasn't a bonehead play. It was just bad luck. Still, it adds to the misery.
5. They outplayed the Penguins.
The Wings were the better team for most of Game 5, and they were really the better team in the third period and first overtime. It seemed like the NHL had instituted a new rule prohibiting Pittsburgh from having the puck.
Maybe that should make the Wings feel better. But in a way, it makes them feel worse. When you play that well and still lose, it can be tough to muster the mental energy to play that well again.
You know how Charlie Brown kept trying to kick that football? Well, here's a news flash: Charlie Brown was a comic strip character. Real people have a tougher time bouncing back.
6. You had to write two different columns and send them both to your editor before the game ended.
Oh, right. That last one only applies to me.
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I apologize for my absence, some of us actually attend hockey games which requires travel time and working to pay for tickets, as opposed to sitting on ones ass and cheering for a shitty second-tier hockey team which requires nothing but alot of alcohol in one's system.
I said it before and I'll say it again: this series was over before it began. The Penguins have been outplayed in every game this series, and yet since hockey involves an element of luck and bounces, they managed to get two "wins." Good for them. They're still going to lose, they're still a historical footnote, and they're still not in the same league as the elite teams in the West. Pittsburgh's finals MVP at this point is Rob Scuderi's face for heaven's sake.
It's over. In fact, it never really started -- the series is not, and never has been in doubt. Detroit 11, Pittsburgh 2.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
the whining continues:
Wings coach Babcock questions officiating, takes shot at Pens coach Therrien (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3424865)
First, everyone on earth said those two goaltender interference calls were garbage including all the announcers, Don Cherry, etc, etc, as opposed to Michel Therrien's complaints who were seconded by no one not wearing a Pittsburgh sweater.
Second, if you read the article you linked to, Babcock was asked for his opinion, and declined to give it twice before the reporter basically said, "No one cares what we think about it, we don't have much of a story without you opening your mouth." He then agreed with what everyone and their mother already said. Not exactly the same level as whining as the Frenchy McKnickersinabunch.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
the whining continues:
Wings coach Babcock questions officiating, takes shot at Pens coach Therrien (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3424865)
First, everyone on earth said those two goaltender interference calls were garbage including all the announcers, Don Cherry, etc, etc, as opposed to Michel Therrien's complaints who were seconded by no one not wearing a Pittsburgh sweater.
Second, if you read the article you linked to, Babcock was asked for his opinion, and declined to give it twice before the reporter basically said, "No one cares what we think about it, we don't have much of a story without you opening your mouth." He then agreed with what everyone and their mother already said. Not exactly the same level as whining as the Frenchy McKnickersinabunch. [/b]
why arent you going to the game tonight? would you like to join me at a local bar and watch it? b/c you sound like a ton of fun to watch a game with.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
would you like to join me at a local bar and watch it? b/c you sound like a ton of fun to watch a game with.
Well, I don't live in the District; I'm in metro Richmond. But if you'd like to drive down here, you're more then welcome to watch this at my house with the 5-6 other people who are congregating for the game. HDTV and all the gin you can down.
PM me for directions. During the intermissions we can discuss how best to defeat Barack Obama, er um, I mean, elect John McCain.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
the whining continues:
Wings coach Babcock questions officiating, takes shot at Pens coach Therrien (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3424865)
First, everyone on earth said those two goaltender interference calls were garbage including all the announcers, Don Cherry, etc, etc, as opposed to Michel Therrien's complaints who were seconded by no one not wearing a Pittsburgh sweater.
Second, if you read the article you linked to, Babcock was asked for his opinion, and declined to give it twice before the reporter basically said, "No one cares what we think about it, we don't have much of a story without you opening your mouth." He then agreed with what everyone and their mother already said. Not exactly the same level as whining as the Frenchy McKnickersinabunch. [/b]
1) Does the rule book state clearly that those are penalties? Yes or No. [it does]
The announcers agreed they were penalties by the book - BUT that the rule was bad & should be changed. I agree.
2) Did the Pens score on either of those penalties to determine the game?
3) Why weren't Wings fans whining when Oz benefited from some interference penalties early in the series & AND clearly exaggerated to get them? (for which he has a reputation.)
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
2) Did the Pens score on either of those penalties to determine the game?
I was unaware a call was terrible, and out of line with how every ref has called it all season ONLY if the ensuing power-play is scored upon.
You don't think the fact that in both situations the Wings were flying high with momentum and piling on scoring chances and instead of an offensive zone faceoff, they get a penalty ebbs their flow a bit? I'm not an idiot and going to say if those are called differently then the final score is different, but it definitely affects the game. A few minutes after the Cleary penalty, you could see Maltby crashing the net and stop way out of position, no doubt out of fear of getting another bogus goal-tender interference call.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
2) Did the Pens score on either of those penalties to determine the game?
I was unaware a call was terrible, and out of line with how every ref has called it all season ONLY if the ensuing power-play is scored upon.
You don't think the fact that in both situations the Wings were flying high with momentum and piling on scoring chances and instead of an offensive zone faceoff, they get a penalty ebbs their flow a bit? I'm not an idiot and going to say if those are called differently then the final score is different, but it definitely affects the game. A few minutes after the Cleary penalty, you could see Maltby crashing the net and stop way out of position, no doubt out of fear of getting another bogus goal-tender interference call. [/b]
I'm not going to get into a huge discussion about penalties & refs in this series or game. They've been no better or worse than normal
It's hockey: THEY ARE NEVER GOOD. You of all people should know that.
The only person to significantly dictate that result was Fleury.
We'd much rather hear about your experiences at the game.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
We'd much rather hear about your experiences at the game.
It was ebb and flow, emotionally. The Wings came out looking nervous and didn't start well and when Kronwall own-goaled it to make it 2-0, the place was kinda flat. Then by the start of the 3rd, there was a general sense that this game was going the way most of the series had went (Penguins play best in the 1st, Wings play progressively better in 2nd and 3rd) and that we were going to come back. The Datsyuk and Rafalski goals sent the place riotous. The "We Want the Cup" chant was pretty loud, and it started to feel like it was over, but I remembered distinctly Anaheim last year and Nashville this year so I knew we had a penchant for getting scored on once the goalie was pulled. The cheapy by Osgood deflated the place. It was like being extrememly hyped up on adrenaline then nothing.
That said, the excitement continued to build all first OT as we dominated play but never could slide one in. Emotions got tempered during the intermission break. 2nd OT was kinda the same but about 8 minutes in I remember turning and saying, "We're going to keep the barrage on Fleury and they're going to get one decent look and score on it." Sure enough, it did.
It felt much later then it really was once it was over because the 3-4 hours immediately proceeding were spent standing up to try and get a little better view only to sit down again. Must have happened 100 times.
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Dear NBC4 Weather Plus,
I do believe that by now we are aware there is severe in the area.
Take that huge ticker on the top of the screen and shove it!
thanks
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thank goods for instant replay :roll:
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Well that was fun. Thought we were gonna get another OT.
Always weird to watch a team celebrate AWAY. Seems diminished.
Great season by the Pens. Better season & team: the Wings. Congrats to them. They are very deserving.
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my power just got turned on in alexandria. fuck.
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good game - not as good as #3, 4 or 5, but still very exciting. first period was on the sloppy side. those last two minutes took two years off my life expectancy.
Originally posted by kosmo:
Dear NBC4 Weather Plus,
I do believe that by now we are aware there is severe in the area.
Take that huge ticker on the top of the screen and shove it!
OMFG that thing was annoying. a minor riot almost broke out in the restaurant where i was watching the game. the did an OK job
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Always weird to watch a team celebrate AWAY. Seems diminished.
i was very impressed with how full the stands were throughout the post-game celebration and for the presentation of the cup. very classy of the pitt fans.
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Bummer...i wanted the pens to get that goal. sooooooooooo close.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
i was very impressed with how full the stands were throughout the post-game celebration and for the presentation of the cup. very classy of the pitt fans.
even if the away team wins the cup, the home fans never leave until the cup is presented. much like post-series handshakes and taking a puck to the face and not missing a shift, this is what makes hockey a unique sport.
feelin fine about the wings (and for next year too).
how aboot clears being the first newfoondlander to win a cup, eh?
here's hoping ovvie learns some english over the summer so he can take some tv time away from that punk crosby.
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Originally posted by likorice:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
i was very impressed with how full the stands were throughout the post-game celebration and for the presentation of the cup. very classy of the pitt fans.
even if the away team wins the cup, the home fans never leave until the cup is presented. much like post-series handshakes and taking a puck to the face and not missing a shift, this is what makes hockey a unique sport.
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*cough* they did in dc when the wings won the cup here *cough*
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all bob ryans fault. not sure if cable does this, but for some reason they didnt broadcast in hd when that fucking warning was on. at least that took all the anger i had. anyway, congrats to the wings it was one hell of a season
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Originally posted by likorice:
even if the away team wins the cup, the home fans never leave until the cup is presented. much like post-series handshakes and taking a puck to the face and not missing a shift, this is what makes hockey a unique sport.
uh, not always true, i've seen a few cup presentations where the fans were walking out... detroit @ washington being one of them, as kosmo pointed out.
Originally posted by likorice:
how aboot clears being the first newfoondlander to win a cup, eh?
seriously? he's the first? hard to believe... admittedly the population on the rock is small, but i would have thought that in 115 years at least one newfie had snuck on a winning team. huh. interesting.
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yeah i bet there was a bit of a party in Newfoundland last night... it was a fact that the announcers mentioned several times during the series, along with it being the first time a european born captain was to raise the cup
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
uh, not always true, i've seen a few cup presentations where the fans were walking out... detroit @ washington being one of them, as kosmo pointed out.
well, if you ever want a taste of whos NOT classy....just go to a DC sporting event.
(and no, not all of you, but a good bit of them)
its funny that they get no national recognition of being crappy fans like Boston, Philly and New York. but perhaps thats cause they arent assholes, they just dont really care.
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Originally posted by kosmo:
yeah i bet there was a bit of a party in Newfoundland last night... it was a fact that the announcers mentioned several times during the series, along with it being the first time a european born captain was to raise the cup
they party in the Newf every night, pal! dontcha know!
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Originally posted by kosmo:
it was a fact that the announcers mentioned several times during the series, along with it being the first time a european born captain was to raise the cup
Yes - at times I thought it had become the Nothing But Cleary network :D
Even in loss - I love the psychology of sports. This is a powerful photo:
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
all the gin you can down.
My one bitter comment on the result:
I hope your enjoyment & celebration is being tempered by a WICKED gin hangover. Ha! :D
<img src="http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2262889/hangover-main_Full.jpg" alt=" - " />
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damn i had to leave the bar that i was in to catch M83. Ok - Im not really complaining because M83 was one hell of a show and I even forgot there was playoff hockey going on. Ah well. From what I saw the wings were on their game last night. Interesting that even in a NY Irish pub most everyone was cheering for the wings. I thought for sure there might be Pens fans around, but found none.
The female keyboardist had one hell of a voice. I only wish it was longer. I think the show was maybe just over an hour - but I could have listened to them playing for way longer than that.
The Presets tonight. Should be another great show!
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Evil Red Wings Owner Wario Lemieux Steals Stanley Cup
<img src="http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/SB-Wario-R_0.jpg" alt=" - " />
from the onion (http://www.theonion.com/content/from_print/evil_red_wings_owner_wario)
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Lacking motivation to continue career, Hasek retires after 16 seasons (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3433498)
not to diss one of the great goalies of our time, but i'd be unmotivated too if i had an ego as big as his and watched my team win the cup without me.
and wings dent the cup (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3430799) - nice work! :p
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Hasek cruised into the 4P's one night when I was working (the Czech embassy is right around the corner). Super nice guy. Refused to let me pick up his tab, and tipped me hansomely.
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Hasek is one of the greatest goaltenders ever. Maybe top 3. And I'd say that had he never laced them up for the Wings.
I'd take Hasek in his prime over Roy or Brodeur in theirs. I can't speak intelligently about Dryden, Tretiak, or Sawchuk, but of my era, he was freakishly good.
Heck, at 43 he had a <2.1 gaa.
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Pretty good night for Caps and Wings fans at the NHL awards:
Hart - Ovechkin
Art Ross - Ovechkin
Pearson - Ovechkin
Rocket Richard - Ovechkin
Norris - Lidstrom
Selke - Datsyuk
Lady Bing - Datsyuk
Lifetime Achievement - Gordie Howe
Jack Adams - Bruce Boudreau
William Jennings - Osgood/Hasek
Oh, yeah, there's 28 other teams too:
Vezina - Brodeur (what a ripoff, Nabokov deserved this)
Calder - Patrick Kane
Masterson - Jason Blake
King Clancy - LeCavalier
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i've taken some time off from hockey ... is this patrick kane kid considered US's great hope? how does he compare to recent calder winners?
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
i've taken some time off from hockey ... is this patrick kane kid considered US's great hope? how does he compare to recent calder winners?
Is he as good as Malkin or Ovechkin? Almost definitely not. But I do think he had nearly 70 points in his rookie season. He's legit.
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congrats to boudreau, great job in a hurry. i just found out he was an extra in slapshot? how cool is that?
alex is the far and away the best (immature) talent in the league.
and big cheers to nicky lidstrom, the best (mature) talent in the NHL for winning a 6th norris. one of the best players ever at any position.
sucks to go 6 months with no hockey, but csn has been replaying 07-08 caps games, and the nhl network is good too.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Lacking motivation to continue career, Hasek retires after 16 seasons (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3433498)
not to diss one of the great goalies of our time, but i'd be unmotivated too if i had an ego as big as his and watched my team win the cup without me.
and wings dent the cup (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3430799) - nice work! :p
It may as well be their cup to dent at this point.
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
i've taken some time off from hockey ... is this patrick kane kid considered US's great hope? how does he compare to recent calder winners?
Is he as good as Malkin or Ovechkin? Almost definitely not. But I do think he had nearly 70 points in his rookie season. He's legit. [/b]
Too bad Jonathan Toews was out injured so much. He could have given Kane a real run for the Calder. Kane/Toews are right up there with Ovechkin/Bäckström as the best young Center/Wing combo.
Been a long time since the NHL had such crazy good young talent.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
tinue career, Hasek retires after 16 seasons[/URL]
not to diss one of the great goalies of our time, but i'd be unmotivated too if i had an ego as big as his and watched my team win the cup without me.
he won two cups on his own AND an olypmic gold medal. he's 43 and has an asteroid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8217_Dominikha%C5%A1ek) named after him. future hall of famer. quirky and flaky? sure. 6 vezinas (while brodeuer and roy were in their prime) and two harts? judge that
wasted most of his career for horrible buffalo teams. the czech gold medal run in 98 was the best hockey i've ever seen in my life.
again, big ups to ovie and bruce! congrats!
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
wings dent the cup (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3430799) - nice work! :D
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
wings dent the cup (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3430799) - nice work! :D
<img src="http://hockeyhype.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/hayden-panettiere-stanley-cup-01.jpg" alt=" - " /> [/QB]
Maybe she'll fly out to Detroit and polish it for the redwings.
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That is so hot. Can she please start dating Jiri Hudler or something? She could totally be the new Kournikova.
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Check out who Ovie brought to the NHL awards the other night. She was also with him the other night at Teatro Goldoni on K Street.
Igor Larionov's and former Junior World Figure Skating Champion Elena Botanova's daughter, Alyonka.
That would be an insane offspring. :eek:
<img src="http://f3.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nhl_experts__4/ept_sports_nhl_experts-560691625-1213462966.jpg?ym32Yi_C.mSwVeLm" alt=" - " />
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Marian Hossa is headed to the Red Wings. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3470849) Hossa, whose Penguins lost to Detroit in the Stanley Cup finals, signed a one-year, $7.4 million deal with the champs Wednesday.
** Sorry. For obvious reasons I didn't check the "Happy Canada day" thread.
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We discussed this in the Happy Canada Day thread. It's a holy crap signing. Bring back the ENTIRE team from a Stanley Cup Championship and steal the best two-way player from the Stanley Cup runner-up. The powerplay possibilities are outrageous.