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Title: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: yr covers blown on June 12, 2006, 01:13:00 pm
I will be in town for the Belle and Sebastian show.  I will only be in Baltimore for the night and need to kill time from when the show ends to when I catch my flight. So from, like Midnight to 7am.  I'm just looking for a place to grab a drink and maybe see a band.  I'm from Austin and if anyone is familiar with that area, I'm looking for an Emo's type atmosphere.  If you could please help me out I would be eternally greatful!
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: lbcardoni on June 12, 2006, 01:22:00 pm
Will you have transportation?  Baltimore, decent places to hang out, and merriweather would require a car to get to and from.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: yr covers blown on June 12, 2006, 01:32:00 pm
Yes I will have a rental car
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on June 12, 2006, 01:37:00 pm
if you're up for driving to DC after the show (probably 45 mins or so), there's a good britpop party at Black Cat
 
 http://www.blackcatdc.com/schedule.html (http://www.blackcatdc.com/schedule.html)
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: twangirl on June 12, 2006, 02:31:00 pm
Ottobar is the closest thing to Emo's in Baltimore.
 
 http://www.theottobar.com/schedule.htm (http://www.theottobar.com/schedule.htm)
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: lbcardoni on June 12, 2006, 02:52:00 pm
The Ottobar is decent.  Closest to Emo's as stated earlier.
 Other than that,  Sonar (http://www.sonar.us) has a decent lounge area, for bands, try  The Talking Head (http://www.talkingheadclub.com) or  The Side Bar (http://www.sidebartavern.com)
 
 For decent places to hang out or kill time at, try  The Brewer's Art (http://www.belgianbeer.com/) ,  The Sound Garden (http://www.cdjoint.com/) , or  The Club Charles (http://baltimore.citysearch.com/profile/4959136/baltimore_md/club_charles.html)
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: lbcardoni on June 12, 2006, 02:53:00 pm
When is your flight?
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 12, 2006, 02:56:00 pm
please note that almost everything in Baltimore is closes at 2am.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: yr covers blown on June 12, 2006, 05:33:00 pm
my flight is at 7:30am out of BWI
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Got Haggis? on June 12, 2006, 06:00:00 pm
Lulu's in fells point is decent
 
 http://www.lulusoffbroadway.com/ (http://www.lulusoffbroadway.com/)
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: yr covers blown on June 12, 2006, 08:07:00 pm
Thank you all so much!  I really appreciate all the suggestioins and look foward to visiting all these places!
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: K8teebug on June 13, 2006, 02:07:00 pm
Hands down, the best place in B'more is Friends on Aliceanna street in Fells Point.  Great food, good beer, fantastic jukebox.
 
 If you don't feel like driving too far, and want to stay in columbia, Sushi Sono by the "lake" has terrific sushi.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 13, 2006, 02:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by K8teebug:
  Hands down, the best place in B'more is Friends on Aliceanna street in Fells Point.  Great food, good beer, fantastic jukebox.
 
my favourite non-band having bar in town , as well!!!
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: on June 13, 2006, 02:20:00 pm
Fells Point is strictly for tourists.  It's teh suck.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: paul3mac on June 13, 2006, 02:56:00 pm
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Originally posted by The Jesus Nut:
  Fells Point is strictly for tourists.  It's teh suck.
...well this guy is from texas
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: on June 13, 2006, 03:00:00 pm
Why would anyone even want to do touristy things here?  Baltimore is teh suck.  I'd leave if I only could.
 
 Things must be really bad in Texas if they're coming here for kicks.  Canada too!
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: K8teebug on June 13, 2006, 03:23:00 pm
Baltimore rules.  I love it.  If you don't like it, you should leave.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: ggw on June 13, 2006, 03:40:00 pm
Baltimore: Get It On!!
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: on June 13, 2006, 03:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by K8teebug:
  Baltimore rules.  I love it.  If you don't like it, you should leave.
I tried to leave, but Maryland is like a black hole for me.  I seem to get away briefly at times, but true escape is impossible.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 13, 2006, 03:51:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by The Jesus Nut:
  Why would anyone even want to do touristy things here?  Baltimore is teh suck.  I'd leave if I only could.
 
 
you dont even live in Baltimore.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: on June 13, 2006, 03:52:00 pm
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Originally posted by the sonick:
  you dont even live in Baltimore.
I'm suburban pentinent.  I get most of the city perks: gang violence, toxic waste, etc...but little of the urban charm.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 13, 2006, 03:58:00 pm
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Originally posted by The Jesus Nut:
   
Quote
Originally posted by the sonick:
  you dont even live in Baltimore.
I'm suburban pentinent.  I get most of the city perks: gang violence, toxic waste, etc...but little of the urban charm. [/b]
interesting.
 
    wait, no its not.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: on June 13, 2006, 04:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by the sonick:
  interesting.
 
    wait, no its not.
I bow to your obviously superior weltanschauung, sir.  You are, indeed, the proverbial bee's bollocks.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 13, 2006, 04:05:00 pm
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Originally posted by The Jesus Nut:
   
Quote
Originally posted by the sonick:
  interesting.
 
    wait, no its not.
I bow to your obviously superior weltanschauung, sir.  You are, indeed, the proverbial bee's bollocks. [/b]
why thank you!!!!!  send this man a Molson  ;)
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: on June 13, 2006, 04:06:00 pm
<img src="http://www.mplate.com/images/Beer/Picture%20291.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 and you
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Sir HC on June 13, 2006, 04:08:00 pm
Great Thai in columbia too.  Bangkok Delight right off of Rte. 100.  Go native Thai and live the pain.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Jaguar on June 13, 2006, 04:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by The Jesus Nut:
   
Quote
Originally posted by K8teebug:
  Baltimore rules.  I love it.  If you don't like it, you should leave.
I tried to leave, but Maryland is like a black hole for me.  I seem to get away briefly at times, but true escape is impossible. [/b]
Same here. This hole in Hell gets worse every year with a few minor improvements for some to point out as highlights.
 
 Have you noticed that the only ones who tend to like Baltimore are a few people who don't live here? Accept for Sonick who has some weird, morbid fascination with the place since he left Canada. Wonder if he's on the mayor's payroll?
 
 Welcome to Baltimore, hon. Hope you brought your Texas street smarts with you because you are in Dodge City East now.
 
 I want to go to Austin to see The Black Angels, Experimental Aircraft, My Education, She, Sir and many other very cool bands.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Fico on June 13, 2006, 04:19:00 pm
Wear a full body condom while in B'more...
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: K8teebug on June 13, 2006, 04:20:00 pm
I grew up in b'more.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: K8teebug on June 13, 2006, 04:21:00 pm
and I'll take a show at the ottobar over a bad sound, smoky ass, expensive drinks black cat any day.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: paul3mac on June 13, 2006, 04:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by K8teebug:
  and I'll take a show at the ottobar over a bad sound, smoky ass, expensive drinks black cat any day.
amen sister!
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: yr covers blown on June 14, 2006, 02:28:00 am
Everyone hates the town they live in.  I love living in Austin most of the time, but that's because I moved here for college in 1999 from a shitty border town.  Sometimes the whole clique-ish everyone knows everyone bullshit gets to me and I want to leave.  Hello trip to MD.  Again, thanks for all the feedback.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Got Haggis? on June 14, 2006, 08:39:00 am
I love baltimore and live in the city.  Fells Point is not only for tourists...yeah there are some real shitty places there, but there are some great ones as well.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 14, 2006, 08:52:00 am
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
 
 Have you noticed that the only ones who tend to like Baltimore are a few people who don't live here? Accept for Sonick who has some weird, morbid fascination with the place since he left Canada. Wonder if he's on the mayor's payroll?
 
its not really that i have a fascination with baltimore, its just i cannot see why some people have this horrible opinion of it.  I mean, from the sounds of you and dupek and some others, when you go to Baltimore you step on dirty needles as bullets go whizzing by your head!
   I have lived here for 7 years and the only negative experiences i have are the same ones i had while living 2 years in Boston, and 1 /12 in Manhattan.
 
   i find it pretty sad that people live somewhere they hate. if i thought i was stuck in a town, i would certainly feel terrible about it.
 
    sounds more like you are too lazy to leave than that you just cant.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: on June 14, 2006, 09:02:00 am
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Originally posted by the sonick:
     sounds more like you are too lazy to leave than that you just cant.
It may sound like that, nevertheless, truth it is.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: lbcardoni on June 14, 2006, 09:05:00 am
I think that Fells Point has lost its tourist appeal to Power Plant Live...
 I don't see too many "tourists" strolling into Red Star, Trixies, Fletcher's, The Blarney Stone, or Reptillain Records....Unless by tourists, you mean people from Catonsville, then I am guilty of said charges.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on June 14, 2006, 09:11:00 am
I work with two people who choose to live in Baltimore and commute to DC. Both have PHD's, both probably make at least 100K, and both prefer Baltimore.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Jaguar:
 
 
 Have you noticed that the only ones who tend to like Baltimore are a few people who don't live here? Accept for Sonick who has some weird, morbid fascination with the place since he left Canada. Wonder if he's on the mayor's payroll?
 
 
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: lbcardoni on June 14, 2006, 09:11:00 am
Has anyone checked out  Shop Gentei (http://www.shopgentei.com/lookbook/) ?
 
 I went in after it openned and wasn't impressed with the selection and was wondering if it had gotten better
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Jaguar on June 15, 2006, 12:09:00 am
Listen, I grew up in Baltimore and know it well unlike those who didn't get to know Baltimore until the last 10 years or so. It is not the same city that it once was by any means. A few places have gotten better but, as a whole, the place has gotten so much worse, mostly because of vastly increased crime and political corruption.
 
 For privacy reasons, I will not write about some of the things that I know of that would piss anyone off that have gone on just in City Hall alone that affect the entire city. I know, or have known, lots of people who work/ed there and have heard some horrible tales of insider corruption. BTW, most of these people were in middle or upper level management positions. Not just some courier or lower level employee.
 
 Also Sonick, you may have gotten by unscathed but I have had more than my share of negative experiences here, mostly all in the past 10 years. Worse yet, I've known way too many people who have had bad experiences that were even worse than mine, including death. One of my long time friends was murdered in Bolton Hill by a couple teenagers in broad daylight during a robbery. This kind of stuff has greatly increased in the past decade or so for reasons I won't elaborate on now. It's for many more reasons than just drugs.  
 
 Most of my personal experiences, though not all, were within the public school system. Now, you might say something like, "Yeah, but that's different. Everyone knows how bad the schools are." But the thing is, those schools are part of the city and I was usually in the very worst of them. They are real and they are horrendous and those kids who the system allows to get away with the worst behavior you can imagine are taking it right out to the streets and the cops aren't allowed to stop them either. So, consider yourself lucky so far and continue to take your street smarts with you. And make sure you watch out for your girlfriend and not be so cavelier about how tough and street smart she might be because a bullet can stop all that thinking in an instant. BTW, dodging bullets was sometimes par for the course on a typical trip to and from school...or even just getting through the school day.
 
 Finally, for the record, I don't live in Baltimore City proper. I'm north of there in a nice neighborhood maybe akin to what Reston, Chantilly or Woodbridge would be to DC. I love my apartment, have a fantastic and peaceful view and lots of room for much, much less than what I'd pay in any of those areas. So, unless I can find a worthwhile job in the DC area that would allow me to afford something similiar, I'm not that quick to move. The downside is that I rarely go out anywhere in the Baltimore area since most of the places I prefer are in DC. One trade off for the other.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: on June 15, 2006, 08:16:00 am
I didn't grow up in Baltimore, but I did live the biggest chunk of my life in small town MD.  Now I am a suburban Baltimoron.  
 
 Maryland, while not the worst of states, is certaintly no garden spot.   Most foreigners seems to like it somewhat, though.  So what do I know?  My son is growing up in Baltimore.  He seems to love it. He goes downtown nearly every day.  Go figure.
 
 Myself, I much prefer the upper Great Lakes area over most of the rest of America.  I don't like city life, but if I had to choose one I'd pick Green Bay.  I like cheese.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: K8teebug on June 15, 2006, 08:19:00 am
Fine.  Stay in your house.  Don't go out.  Then, I can enjoy a beer in my favorite bar in BALTIMORE without having to hear whiners like you complain about a fun city.
 
 And for the record, I have more friends who've had problems in DC than in Baltimore.  So, I guess you should just move to South Dakota.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: on June 15, 2006, 08:33:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by K8teebug:
 I can enjoy a beer in my favorite bar in BALTIMORE
I don't hang out in restaurants.  I don't talk to debutantes. And the Great Lakes aren't in SD.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: hutch on September 21, 2016, 06:32:49 pm
Be careful if you are in Baltimore.. two people I know on Facebook personally knew someone who got killed there in the last two days....
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: challenged on September 21, 2016, 06:38:15 pm
Be careful if you are in Baltimore.. two people I know on Facebook personally knew someone who got killed there in the last two days....

any deets; I am there nearly every weekend.  ???
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: hutch on September 21, 2016, 06:43:34 pm
Be careful if you are in Baltimore.. two people I know on Facebook personally knew someone who got killed there in the last two days....

any deets; I am there nearly every weekend.  ???

well one was a student at morgan state i think? got stabbed about a mile north of there.. the other was a cook that a friend of mine knew... the first kid my other friend- an older guy who works helping people from the dc inner city academically or to go to college- used to work with/tutor i guess....

this is the second morgan state university student killed recently...
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: hutch on September 21, 2016, 06:45:52 pm
here is what my friend posted :

Here's the latest from the Baltimore Sun. http://www.baltimoresun.com/?/bs-md-ci-morgan-canvassing-20?
Is anyone up for a gathering tonight or tomorrow night to tell Marcus stories? You all were such great friends of Marcus, and he was to you. He and you do not deserve this, but we can at least get together and smile a little bit about why we all loved him.
My younger students and alums, this is why we call and text so often.

Morgan State student killed in stabbing Monday night
A Morgan State University student was stabbed about a mile north of campus in Northeast Baltimore Monday night, city police said.
BALTIMORESUN.COM|BY BALTIMORE SUN
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: hutch on September 21, 2016, 06:46:33 pm
and this is the second one


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So sad. I knew Mike and he was a super nice guy. We worked at summer camp together. The violence just never ever seems to end. I don't understand. I know poverty, lack of resources and a million other things make desperate people do desperate things. But everyone - most everyone - has a mother. Should know basic right from wrong. Should at least value and respect life. I find it hard to believe that every crime is committed by someone who never had a single chance or love from a parent. How did we get so far off the rails and why and how do we get back on? My heart aches for Mike. For his family. For our mutual friends that are grieving for him. And for all those affected by senseless violence, including myself, because my father was also killed by a completely senseless and random act of theft and murder. I feel overwhelming sadness.

Local Chef Shot, Killed During Robbery In Baltimore
Baltimore Police say a man has died after he was shot during a robbery overnight in Baltimore.
BALTIMORE.CBSLOCAL.COM|BY WJZ-TV | CBS BALTIMORE
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: hutch on September 21, 2016, 06:46:55 pm
I don't have that many FB friends so I found it all kind of striking....
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: challenged on September 21, 2016, 06:51:56 pm
Be careful if you are in Baltimore.. two people I know on Facebook personally knew someone who got killed there in the last two days....

any deets; I am there nearly every weekend.  ???

well one was a student at morgan state i think? got stabbed about a mile north of there.. the other was a cook that a friend of mine knew... the first kid my other friend- an older guy who works helping people from the dc inner city academically or to go to college- used to work with/tutor i guess....

this is the second morgan state university student killed recently...

I love Baltimore; but the unsafe areas are Really unsafe; and the "safe" areas are not to be trifled with either...head on a swivel at all times.

Fells Point:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-briefs-arrest-0806-20160805-story.html (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-briefs-arrest-0806-20160805-story.html)

Roland Park:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-homicide-20160709-story.html (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-homicide-20160709-story.html)


Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on September 22, 2016, 01:36:12 pm
Fell's Point is pretty safe.  As safe as anyplace in DC.  Been going there all my life and never saw any issues.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on September 22, 2016, 01:41:12 pm
Any place in Baltimore is safe as long as you ingratiate yourself to the locals. Look at your surroundings and point out similarities to the plot of The Wire. They love that. Bonus points if you lecture them on the challenges their school system faces in poverty stricken neighborhoods.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Space Freely on September 22, 2016, 01:51:54 pm
Fell's Point is pretty safe.  As safe as anyplace in DC.  Been going there all my life and never saw any issues.

It only takes one incident to sour anybody on a certain place. I used to live in the "nuclear free zone" lovey-dovey hippie town of Takoma Park, Maryland. One day as I was walking home from the train station, two teenaged guys jumped me from behind and started pummeling me. I quickly gave my wallet to one of the guys. The other guy, not realizing his buddy had taken off with my wallet, continued kicking me in the head and demanding my wallet.

The silver lining of the story is that it was the Xmas season and they were probably able to split the $20 I had in my wallet and get their baby-mamas some nice stocking stuffers.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on September 22, 2016, 02:01:51 pm
Fell's Point is pretty safe.  As safe as anyplace in DC.  Been going there all my life and never saw any issues.

It only takes one incident to sour anybody on a certain place. I used to live in the "nuclear free zone" lovey-dovey hippie town of Takoma Park, Maryland. One day as I was walking home from the train station, two teenaged guys jumped me from behind and started pummeling me. I quickly gave my wallet to one of the guys. The other guy, not realizing his buddy had taken off with my wallet, continued kicking me in the head and demanding my wallet.
Shit, son. Do you wear a name tag with your board handle out in public? How did they know it was you?
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Space Freely on September 22, 2016, 02:14:17 pm
Fell's Point is pretty safe.  As safe as anyplace in DC.  Been going there all my life and never saw any issues.

It only takes one incident to sour anybody on a certain place. I used to live in the "nuclear free zone" lovey-dovey hippie town of Takoma Park, Maryland. One day as I was walking home from the train station, two teenaged guys jumped me from behind and started pummeling me. I quickly gave my wallet to one of the guys. The other guy, not realizing his buddy had taken off with my wallet, continued kicking me in the head and demanding my wallet.
Shit, son. Do you wear a name tag with your board handle out in public? How did they know it was you?

I think ggw probably would have been the better target if they were looking for Xmas money.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: vansmack on September 22, 2016, 02:35:55 pm
Any place in Baltimore is safe as long as you ingratiate yourself to the locals. Look at your surroundings and point out similarities to the plot of The Wire. They love that. Bonus points if you lecture them on the challenges their school system faces in poverty stricken neighborhoods.

Don't forget your love for Johns Hopkins.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on September 22, 2016, 02:42:02 pm
Any place in Baltimore is safe as long as you ingratiate yourself to the locals. Look at your surroundings and point out similarities to the plot of The Wire. They love that. Bonus points if you lecture them on the challenges their school system faces in poverty stricken neighborhoods.

Don't forget your love for Johns Hopkins.
#1 in LAX!!! Wooooo!!

We are practically natives.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Got Haggis? on September 22, 2016, 02:43:42 pm
i've lived in baltimore for 12 years, no problems

although i did witness a brutal mugging a few months ago.  2 teens on top of this guy on howard st, 5pm - on light rail tracks...beating the shit out of him.  me and another guy were able to get them to stop, but they got his phone. 

moral of the story is....teenagers suck

Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on September 22, 2016, 02:55:15 pm
i've lived in baltimore for 12 years, no problems

although i did witness a brutal mugging a few months ago.  2 teens on top of this guy on howard st, 5pm - on light rail tracks...beating the shit out of him.  me and another guy were able to get them to stop, but they got his phone. 

moral of the story is....teenagers suck


I think the moral of the story is if you come at the king you best not miss.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Vas Deferens on September 22, 2016, 05:41:02 pm
Just don't go to the neighborhoods with those blue light police cameras and you'll be fine... ::)
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: hutch on September 22, 2016, 06:53:36 pm
 I dirve through a lot of Baltimore to go to the Kennedy Krieger Center and I have to say I have never seen anything as bad...its like Mad Max or some movie after a nuclear holocaust.. I'm guessing many people who live in Baltimore never go into these areas.. these areas are obviously the high crime areas....
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: DeathOrFreedom ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 07:37:41 am

Tucker Carlson calls Baltimore "one of the worst places in the western hemisphere, it's a little bit of Haiti in the mid-Atlantic.

https://twitter.com/nikkimcr/status/1488681371434422276?s=21
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Bagley on February 04, 2022, 12:27:27 pm

Tucker Carlson calls Baltimore "one of the worst places in the western hemisphere, it's a little bit of Haiti in the mid-Atlantic.

https://twitter.com/nikkimcr/status/1488681371434422276?s=21

Here's a different perspective-

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/02/03/baltimore-haiti-tucker-carlson-crime-culture/

Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Starsky on February 04, 2022, 01:04:43 pm
That may be the single stupidest thing I have ever read.

Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Yada on February 04, 2022, 01:19:00 pm
I ❤️ Bawlmoor.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: deadheads can't dance on June 16, 2022, 12:44:29 pm
I love Maryland but growing up here warps your perspective of what ďrichĒ and ďpoorĒ look like, and how we talk about Baltimore is Exhibit A

https://twitter.com/justupthepike/status/1537249322349342721?t=oGpjQPMF0lDRTRiDctJUFg&s=19
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on June 16, 2022, 06:14:35 pm
So Baltimore/DC gets screwed out of hosting 2026 World Cup.  Fuck those Euro-trash FIFA assholes.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Starsky on June 16, 2022, 06:56:55 pm
DC doesnít have a big enough stadium so it really came down to Baltimore being passed up in favor of other US cities but yeah itís a bummer.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Vas Deferens on June 16, 2022, 07:03:41 pm
An Emo's type atmosphere...probably at the 8x10, though without the good music...

I will be in town for the Belle and Sebastian show.  I will only be in Baltimore for the night and need to kill time from when the show ends to when I catch my flight. So from, like Midnight to 7am.  I'm just looking for a place to grab a drink and maybe see a band.  I'm from Austin and if anyone is familiar with that area, I'm looking for an Emo's type atmosphere.  If you could please help me out I would be eternally greatful!
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: sweetcell on June 16, 2022, 07:07:11 pm
DC doesnít have a big enough stadium so it really came down to Baltimore being passed up in favor of other US cities but yeah itís a bummer.

huh?  fed ex field can hold 82k, which gives it the second-highest capacity of the NFL.  you need to reach for the college stadiums, like the Big House, if you wanna go really big... but i didn't see them list any college venues, looks like its all pro football stadiums.

EDIT: WaPo writes (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/06/16/2026-world-cup-host-cities/) "Baltimore and Washington merged their bids to improve the regionís chances, but because of FIFAís growing concerns about FedEx Field in Landover, Md., the matches were to be staged at M&T Bank Stadium." i wonder what those "concerns" are?  my guess: it's Snyder.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Starsky on June 16, 2022, 07:18:53 pm
Exactly


Also Baltimore doesnít have an MLS team.

I think itís hard to argue with most of the cities picked.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on June 16, 2022, 07:27:32 pm
.  you need to reach for the college stadiums, like the Big House, if you wanna go really big... but i didn't see them list any college venues, looks like its all pro football stadiums.
There was some glorified exhibition match at the Big House with whatever team had Cristiano Ronaldo and the soccer losers said the field was oddly sized or positioned or something that made it suboptimal.

I think the Rose Bowl was proposed but didnít make this final cut in favor of Sofi Stadium.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: deadheads can't dance on June 16, 2022, 07:28:14 pm
An Emo's type atmosphere...probably at the 8x10, though without the good music...

I will be in town for the Belle and Sebastian show.  I will only be in Baltimore for the night and need to kill time from when the show ends to when I catch my flight. So from, like Midnight to 7am.  I'm just looking for a place to grab a drink and maybe see a band.  I'm from Austin and if anyone is familiar with that area, I'm looking for an Emo's type atmosphere.  If you could please help me out I would be eternally greatful!

Oooh good call. I hope he hasn't left yet.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on June 16, 2022, 07:37:16 pm
huh?  fed ex field can hold 82k, which gives it the second-highest capacity of the NFL.  you need to reach for the college stadiums, like the Big House, if you wanna go really big... but i didn't see them list any college venues, looks like its all pro football stadiums.

EDIT: WaPo writes (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/06/16/2026-world-cup-host-cities/) "Baltimore and Washington merged their bids to improve the regionís chances, but because of FIFAís growing concerns about FedEx Field in Landover, Md., the matches were to be staged at M&T Bank Stadium." i wonder what those "concerns" are?  my guess: it's Snyder.

This is FIFA. Dan Snyder is a choirboy compared to these uber corrupt freaks.

FedEx Field's problem is that it's a total dump and I'm sure that railing collapsing during the Eagles-WFT game at the end of 2021 sealed the deal. Of course, decrepit stadiums aside, nobody knows how World Cup bids truly work, unless it is really is cities offering $X to FIFA and trying to recoup the money.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on June 16, 2022, 07:38:09 pm
I think the Rose Bowl was proposed but didnít make this final cut in favor of Sofi Stadium.

The Rose Bowl was never offered, except for maybe practice. The NFL hasn't had a Super Bowl there in 30 years, why would FIFA play there instead of SoFi Stadium?
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Starsky on June 16, 2022, 07:40:00 pm
FedEX is a dump AND pulled out

It wouldnít have deserved to get picked

Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: sweetcell on June 16, 2022, 07:57:25 pm
nobody knows how World Cup bids truly work, unless it is really is cities offering $X to FIFA and trying to recoup the money.
 
see, this is exactly why i assumed Fed Ex was in the running...
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Starsky on June 16, 2022, 08:16:43 pm
FIFA would be foolish to mess around with the US. I mean didnít our Department of Justice take down their former leadership?
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: DeathOrFreedom ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 16, 2022, 08:55:55 pm
FIFA would be foolish to mess around with the US. I mean didnít our Department of Justice take down their former leadership?
is this why you see a headline like this

FIFA snubs Washington D.C (https://sports.yahoo.com/world-cup-host-cities-2026-214301806.html)
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on June 16, 2022, 09:12:18 pm
I think the Rose Bowl was proposed but didnít make this final cut in favor of Sofi Stadium.

The Rose Bowl was never offered, except for maybe practice. The NFL hasn't had a Super Bowl there in 30 years, why would FIFA play there instead of SoFi Stadium?
The Rose Bowl was 100% on the finalists list up until today when it was not selected. Read literally any article on this subject, bro.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/fifa-world-cup/story/4686699/world-cup-2026-host-cities-revealedwith-11-venues-in-us3-in-mexico-and-2-in-canada   read paragraph 4.

The Super Bowl has been exclusively hosted at NFL stadiums during your suggested 30-year window, so the Rose Bowl was not eligible for a Super Bowl. This is sort of like pointing out Nationals Park has hosted no Super Bowls, so how could we expect them to merit a Green Day and Weezer co-headline date.

It WAS the site of the 199x World Cup Final the last time the US hosted.

I will tolerate none of this Rose Bowl slander.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Starsky on June 16, 2022, 09:13:03 pm
They didnít snub DC, they snubbed Baltimore which doesnít have an MLS team

They went with cities that support soccer like Seattle or Atlanta which average 50,000 attendance per game

I think they got it right
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Vas Deferens on June 16, 2022, 09:30:55 pm
https://twitter.com/CMTAlliance/status/1537552404689965057
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: sweetcell on June 18, 2022, 02:20:24 pm
They went with cities that support soccer like Seattle or Atlanta which average 50,000 attendance per game

I think they got it right

seattle's #1 team, by far and away, is the seahawks (nlf).  but second place is a definite toss-up between the mariners (mlb) and the sounders (mls).  i get the impression that there are more baseball fans in numbers, but soccer fans are way more passionate.  in my little slice of exurbia there are at least two "sounders bars" but i can't think of a single "mariners bar."

one the one hand, giving the WC games to established markets like seattle or LA is a reward for loyalty, cementing the market, etc.  but on the other hand, those games are going to sell out - why not expand to new markets like baltimore?

anyhoo, looks like seattle is only getting round-robin games, no knockouts.  i'll be attending as many games as i can get tickets to.  maybe england will play here and i can attract a certain san fransiscan up this way...
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Starsky on June 18, 2022, 03:39:35 pm
I believe the MLS grew out of the 1994 World Cup.

MLS is a pretty big league now! It ainít just ten marketsÖ.Teams in some cases drawing 50,000 is a big deal even if it ainít NFL numbers! Did you think the NFL only has 8 or 9 home games per year?

It makes sense to reward cities that care about soccer and - in the main-have world class infrastructure.
I wish Columbus had the large stadium to be rewarded.

Baltimore? Pfft
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on June 18, 2022, 05:33:33 pm
MLS is a Ponzi scheme. It has ďmore than 10 teamsĒ because itís chief revenue is the initiation fee for new teams. Itís Amway masquerading as a sports league.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: sweetcell on June 19, 2022, 01:12:59 am
MLS is a Ponzi scheme. It has ďmore than 10 teamsĒ because itís chief revenue is the initiation fee for new teams. Itís Amway masquerading as a sports league.

you really disconnect yourself from the internet when you drink.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on June 19, 2022, 09:40:11 am
MLS is a Ponzi scheme. It has ďmore than 10 teamsĒ because itís chief revenue is the initiation fee for new teams. Itís Amway masquerading as a sports league.

you really disconnect yourself from the internet when you drink.
Don't take my word for it. Google ďmls Ponzi schemeĒ and go look at the number of academics who call it that. Like 4 of 27 teams (or whatever the count is now) are profitable without league dispersements of new franchise fees. The TV revenue is negligible and attendance sucks outside of like 5 cities.

When they run out of cities to expand to to generate more ďnew franchise fees,Ē itís over. Itís a Ponzi scheme.
Title: Re: Visiting Baltimore
Post by: Starsky on June 19, 2022, 06:52:06 pm
MLS has flaws but itís lasted more than two decades. I think itís a success by any measure. Is it the Premier League? No but none are other than the Premier.

Attendance is actually quite good. MLS average attendance per game is about the same as baseball or basketball.

The product on the field is vastly improved with lots of talented South American players making the first jump to MLS from say Argentina.

MLS stadiums used to be atrocious but have been upgraded. See DC for example.

When I read that some teams average attendance of 50,000 I find it remarkable. These numbers compare favorably with the most successful teams in Europe or South America that have been around over a hundred years.

The 2026 World Cup will be another boost to MLS as will be Messi arriving about 2023-24.