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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Bags on June 30, 2006, 09:00:00 pm
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Okay, this REALLY needs its own thread.
Rumors, news, opinions, exclamations and laments here.
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This festival should be held at the 9:30 Club
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. . . . or Bull Run
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After doing a little research, it appears that the odds are very high that Massive Attack will not be on the bill. HALEF*NGLUJAH!!!! My reasoning is that they are due to play in LA the next day. Though it's possible, I doubt that they would play a gig (probably headlining or close to) on one coast only to have to pack up and play again the next day on the other coast. But...it is possible. I suspect that we get the God awful Red Hot Chili Shits in place of Massive Attack. If I were planning to attend, I would be so disappointed. Instead, I'll be smiling and gazing away down the road in Fredericksburg.
Would be great if Massive Attack plays the 9:30 Club at some point. But not Sept. 23rd (Walls Of Sound Fest)/(Virgin Music Fest) or Sept. 16th (Pop Noise Fest in Philly).
For those complaining that it should be in DC, don't even try it! Baltimore gets something once in a Blue Moon after everything passes us by in favor of DC and some whiner has to complain. Regardless of what I personally feel about the line-up, I am very happy that something is happening here. Finally!!!
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Full line-up to be announced on July 10th. Here's what we know so far...
Confirmed by Pollstar or other sites:
The Raconteurs (http://us.v2music.com/site/tour.asp (http://us.v2music.com/site/tour.asp))
Gnarls Barkley (Pollstar)
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah (Pollstar)
Red Hot Chilli Peppers (Billboard (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002765199))
Strong evidence if not outright confirmation:
The Flaming Lips (home page lists 9/23 with venue TBA)
Rumored???:
most of the bands listed at http://www.virginfestival.ca/vfest_bands.html (http://www.virginfestival.ca/vfest_bands.html)
The Who (vague post by lbcardoni in the Just Announced thread, page 165)
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
After doing a little research, it appears that the odds are very high that Massive Attack will not be on the bill. ... I suspect that we get the God awful Red Hot Chili Shits in place of Massive Attack. If I were planning to attend, I would be so disappointed.
I suspect you are correct, and I agree we're getting short-changed if that's the case.
I'm really hoping for The Dears, but I'd be really surprised. They'll play Toronto, of course, but Baltimore seems unlikely, although they are playing the V Festival in the UK in August, so maybe....
Total speculation: I noticed that Margot & the Nuclear So-and-So's are on V2 Music, same as The Raconteurs. They would be a nice addition, I think.
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a lot of people are on V2, but that doesn't serve as any indication.
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OK so I am old and slow... When is this event supposed to take place and where can one purchase tickets?
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Wolfmother! :) Let's hope they play the Baltimore edition. The Billboard article says the lineup will be announced July 10th.
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
For those complaining that it should be in DC, don't even try it! Baltimore gets something once in a Blue Moon after everything passes us by in favor of DC and some whiner has to complain. Regardless of what I personally feel about the line-up, I am very happy that something is happening here. Finally!!!
jag just stuck up for Baltimore????? yay!!!
i too am glad, and i will even go to the festival. i dont like RHCP, but i will be glad to help try to make this a success so that its back every year
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How are seats/tickets gonna be dealt with at Pimlico?
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It's a race track so I assume it will be general admission. They will probably open the infield and have the stage (or stages) somewhere in there. I would hope for those going that they also open the seats but I suspect it will be very much like when the HFStivals are held in stadiums which (correct me if I'm wrong) are still general admission. Farther away from the bands but you get to sit and rest your ass for awhile. You just better pray that it doesn't rain!
Now I don't know about the Clubhouse. Maybe they'll use it to milk more money for tickets or even close it off altogether. Could even use it just for the bands but I suspect it will be open at some point to, at least, some attendees.
Sonick, I'm all for improving Baltimore. Just wish they would hurry up and do so! It just very seriously bugs me when those who receive all of the time get bent out of shape when someone else gets something they more often than not do without. Let them have to take that long drive up the road once in awhile instead of it almost always being us having to do so.
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
For those complaining that it should be in DC, don't even try it! Baltimore gets something once in a Blue Moon after everything passes us by in favor of DC and some whiner has to complain. Regardless of what I personally feel about the line-up, I am very happy that something is happening here. Finally!!!
Ah quit your whining. You got hfstival this year. ;)
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It's going to be a motherfucker
I know
I booked it
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
It's going to be a motherfucker
I know
I booked it
any details you're willing to share?
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
It's going to be a motherfucker
I know
I booked it
not only is this utterly hilarious (the its a motherfucker statement) but it gives me great hope that it may just be the best show baltimore has seen in a long long time!
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baltimore or dc
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
baltimore or dc
i meant Baltimore. :)
but perhaps DC too!!
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
baltimore or dc
DC?? Hello!! :eek:
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he is saying that the show will be the best show baltimore OR dc has seen in a long time.
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Originally posted by challenged:
he is saying that the show will be the best show baltimore OR dc has seen in a long time.
yeah, i got that after i posted my reply, haha. sorry.
ahem.
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Originally posted by challenged:
he is saying that the show will be the best show baltimore OR dc has seen in a long time.
ah, i see.
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For those lamenting the fact that a DC area Massive Attack show is unlikely, especially at V fest, there are other opportunities to see them (some more attractive than others) including this labor day weekend festival, a little more work than trudging out to Pimlico but I dare say worth the trouble.
http://www.electricpicnic.ie/flash.html (http://www.electricpicnic.ie/flash.html)
Fri 1st Sept
Massive Attack
Damien Rice
Antony & the Johnsons
PJ Harvey
Young Blood Brass Band
Mogwai
Devandra
Deus
Dulsori Drummers
Todd Terje
Spank Rock
Fish Go Deep
Stereotonic DJ's
Crazy P Live
Digital Circus Live
Red Sirus
plus more
Sat 2nd Sept
Groove Armada
New Order
The Frames
Bloc Party
Belle & Sebastian
Super Furry Animals
DJ Shadow
Graham Coxon
Sparks
Gang of Four
Bodytonic Sound System
Yo La Tengo
David Kitt
Mundy
Broken Social Scene
Dancepig
Jim Noir
2 Many DJ's
Tiefschwarz
Aberfeldy
Michael Franti & Spearhead
Gary Numan
Jape
Mad Professor
The Boy Least Likely To
Psapp
Tilly and the Wall
Semifinalists
Messian J & the Expert
Andrew Weatherall
Tapes N Tapes
Laura Izibor
The Rags
Krafty Kuts
Nathan Fake (live)
The Skatalites
Corrugated Tunnel v Chymera
Hystereo Live
Radio Soulwax presents Niteversions
Sun 3rd Sept
Basement Jaxx
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Pet Shop Boys
Gnarls Barkley
Josh Ritter
Tom Vek
Laurent Garnier (live)
Rufus Wainwright
Elbow
Discotonic v Backlash
The Rapture
Saul Williams
Francois K
The Blue Nile
Amado & Mariam
Hot Chip
Coldcut
Pendulum
Richard Hawley
Alabama 3
Splitloop
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Need a DJ for the beer garden?
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oh we have some djs
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I hope there are two headliners...
I hope the other headliner is TOOL!
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
oh we have some djs
i hope you have 2 many DJs!!!!! ;)
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Hoping for Underworld, Daft Punk, or Basement Jaxx, OR ALL THREE :)
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Originally posted by Joe M.:
Hoping for Underworld, Daft Punk, or Basement Jaxx, OR ALL THREE :)
i'll take Daft Punk.
in fact, it would be fine if Daft Punk was the ONLY band booked!
and is this going to be 2 days or just 1? can you spill that much seth?
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dcist just posted some more on v-fest, and says they have reasons to believe Arctic Monkeys and Theivery Corporation will be there along already mentioned bands: RHCP, CYHSY, Gnarls Barkley, The Who, The Raconteurs, and The Flaming Lips.
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Where's that main link for the festival? I know where the Pimlico site is but nothing is there. Danka.
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so whats your guesses on prices since one day in toranto is $57
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my "sources" told me that Metallica may be playing the v-fest at baltimore...or at least, they were trying to get Metallica on the bill...and the fest was going to be a 3 day event, but was downsized to one. Wolfmother was also mentioned.
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i think thievery corporation is a given. i just hope this doesn't mean that they won't do a regular club date this summer at the 930.
Originally posted by attache:
dcist just posted some more on v-fest, and says they have reasons to believe Arctic Monkeys and Theivery Corporation will be there along already mentioned bands: RHCP, CYHSY, Gnarls Barkley, The Who, The Raconteurs, and The Flaming Lips.
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Very nice... Thievery DJ set here:
http://www.campbiscov.com/ (http://www.campbiscov.com/)
and hopefully a live set in baltimore less than a month later. You'd think they'd play more than just Chicago and on the west coast live in order to promote that new album.
Originally posted by lily1:
i think thievery corporation is a given. i just hope this doesn't mean that they won't do a regular club date this summer at the 930.
Originally posted by attache:
dcist just posted some more on v-fest, and says they have reasons to believe Arctic Monkeys and Theivery Corporation will be there along already mentioned bands: RHCP, CYHSY, Gnarls Barkley, The Who, The Raconteurs, and The Flaming Lips.
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From Billboard.com...
A U.S. edition of the festival will be held Sept. 23 at the Pimlico Race Course in Baltimore, home of the Preakness Stakes. The Red Hot Chili Peppers will anchor the lineup, which will be announced in full on July 10.
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How soon after the lineup is announced will tix be on sale?
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ok, so on the eve on announcement, i just want to say that i hope Muse is playing the V Festival.
thank you
goodnight.
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any idea as to when it will be announced today?
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hopefully soon...after seeing radiohead on the bill at another v festival, i can only hope that they play at pimlico
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Originally posted by bizou311:
hopefully soon...after seeing radiohead on the bill at another v festival, i can only hope that they play at pimlico
the chili peppers have already been confirmed the headliners.
and in fact, with the Raconteurs, Lips and Peppers confirmed, i would only look for some extra second tier bands to be added today.
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Originally posted by the sonick:
Originally posted by bizou311:
hopefully soon...after seeing radiohead on the bill at another v festival, i can only hope that they play at pimlico
the chili peppers have already been confirmed the headliners.
and in fact, with the Raconteurs, Lips and Peppers confirmed, i would only look for some extra second tier bands to be added today. [/b]
Are The Who second tier?
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come on, the who arent really playing.
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Over in the Belle & Sebastian thread someone said a 930-ish person confirmed the Who and the Killers.
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Originally posted by eros:
Over in the Belle & Sebastian thread someone said a 930-ish person confirmed the Who and the Killers.
the Killers? EWWWW
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Sunday, July 09, 2006
V Fest Lineup Announcement Postponed?
TUL has just received word that the official lineup announcement for Virgin Fest has been pushed back to a later date TBD due to ongoing negotiations with another headliner. Could it be The Who, perhaps?
The announcement scheduled for Monday has been moved while we finish up negotiations with another headlining act. Stay tuned
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this will probably be the website once it is announced
http://www.virginfestival.com/ (http://www.virginfestival.com/)
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I hope this gets professionally filmed
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Originally posted by the sonick:
come on, the who arent really playing.
i think that the who will play. the announcement on thursday perhaps.
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It would be cool and all, but I'm kind of hoping The Who don't play. I imagine ticket prices will be substantially higher if The Who are playing.
If The Who are there, do you think Jack White and Pete Townshend will go head to head in a guitar battle (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013152)? OK, now that I would like to see!
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the site is live now. looks like the lineup won't be announced until july 17th.
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I don't have the inside tract on this one but just a thought based on how promoters and record lables think...
Roger Waters is playing at Nissan on the very same day. Both Roger Waters and The Who would tend to attract basically a bulk of the same audience; or you could say, will compete with the same fans. Maybe that's the issue at hand if The Who are at the center of this delay. The Roger Waters tickets are extremely expensive so I highly doubt that they would want to stop any potential sales by anyone on the fence opting for the (hopefully) more affordable show if any of the same businesses are involved. If not, they just might not want to lose sales for one over the other regardless. Numbers count.
This may not be the issue but I'm sure will be a big consideration for some fans if The Who are on the bill.
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
I don't have the inside tract on this one but just a thought based on how promoters and record lables think...
Roger Waters is playing at Nissan on the very same day. Both Roger Waters and The Who would tend to attract basically a bulk of the same audience; or you could say, will compete with the same fans. Maybe that's the issue at hand if The Who are at the center of this delay. The Roger Waters tickets are extremely expensive so I highly doubt that they would want to stop any potential sales by anyone on the fence opting for the (hopefully) more affordable show if any of the same businesses are involved. If not, they just might not want to lose sales for one over the other regardless. Numbers count.
This may not be the issue but I'm sure will be a big consideration for some fans if The Who are on the bill.
Different Promoters. But some crowd overlap.
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i think Wu Tang Clan may be that "other" headliner.
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
i think Wu Tang Clan may be that "other" headliner.
Well that would suck.
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That pretty much makes the "V" Voodoo North as the leaked bands/confirmations are pretty much lining up along the lines of the New Orleans festival about a month later...not such a good thing....as unlikely as a festival with "acts not playing anywhere else." seems at face value, I was hoping they were going to load up a Virgin airliner and bring over a bunch of Brits (bands) that wouldn't normally be able to make the trip over outside of SXSW...
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
I was hoping they were going to load up a Virgin airliner and bring over a bunch of Brits (bands) that wouldn't normally be able to make the trip over outside of SXSW...
That would indeed be a beautiful thing...but also not likely. *sigh*
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
That would indeed be a beautiful thing...but also not likely. *sigh*
Exactly. But not at something for 75000 people with the RHCP headlining.
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Originally posted by eros:
Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
That would indeed be a beautiful thing...but also not likely. *sigh*
Exactly. But not at something for 75000 people with the RHCP headlining. [/b]
it's a shame, i'd love to see babyshambles before pete dies.
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Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
Originally posted by eros:
Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
That would indeed be a beautiful thing...but also not likely. *sigh*
Exactly. But not at something for 75000 people with the RHCP headlining. [/b]
it's a shame, i'd love to see babyshambles before pete dies. [/b]
given pete's arrested record, i doubt he'd ever get a visa to enter the us for a tour...
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man, a festival does come to the area and people are already bitching and the whole lineup isnt even out yet!
jeeeez
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Fair enough, the preemptive bitching is probably uncalled for but holding up the line-up in order to add another headliner (admittedly only a rumour) is rather silly. Coachella added Massive Attack, Daft Punk, Kanye West, and Madonna AFTER the rest of the line-up had been announced weeks earlier. Putting aside your personal opinion about any of those additions, is there really anyone out there bigger or more desirable than any of those acts - that's worthy of holding up this announcement? Publish the damn thing so we can bitch in earnest!
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I heard that if the the festival sells out quickly, they are going to change the start time and add a second festival the same night.
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but you have to admit that hype is part of a large festival. one that has been running for years, like Coachella, can announce acts later on without worrying about people losing interest in the original lineup and such.
a first time gig like this needs to come out strong and have a good initial ticket selling, i think.
if this "other band" is enough to delay announcing the lineup, they better be good.
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Originally posted by ggw?:
I heard that if the the festival sells out quickly, they are going to change the start time and add a second festival the same night.
what? can you elaborate cause that just makes no sense.
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
Originally posted by ggw?:
I heard that if the the festival sells out quickly, they are going to change the start time and add a second festival the same night.
what? can you elaborate cause that just makes no sense. [/b]
http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013269 (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013269)
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golf clap for ggw :D
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The timing of a festival announcement is huge, as is who is playing it. For example, we have some confirmed bands for the DAM! Festival (http://www.damfestival.org) but it wouldn't help us to announce it until we get a couple of headliners on board. Maybe they are trying to maximize the impact of the line-up.
Or they lost some permits or something and the whole damn thing is in jeopardy.
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This DAM Festival sounds good :)
Are you going to book national acts or strictly local bands?
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
golf clap for ggw :D
hahaha. sorry, i didnt get it.
you're too clever for me, ggw.
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Originally posted by Joe M.:
This DAM Festival sounds good :)
Are you going to book national acts or strictly local bands?
A healthy combination of both...
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The Who tour dates...no DC/Baltimore stop announced (yet) and a big hole around 23 September.
North American dates so far:
Philadelphia ... Sept. 12
Wantagh, N.Y. ... Sept. 13
Ottawa ... Sept. 15
Boston ... Sept. 16
New York ... Sept. 18
Holmdel, N.J. ... Sept. 21
Chicago ... Sept. 25
Detroit ... Sept. 29
London, Ontario ... Sept. 30
Winnipeg ... Oct. 3
Calgary ... Oct. 5
Edmonton ... Oct. 6
Vancouver, B.C. ... Oct. 8
Portland, Ore. ... Oct. 10
Seattle ... Oct. 11
Los Angeles ... Nov. 5
Toronto ... Dec. 4
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You can buy tickets to some of the dates right now on ticketmaster.com. Of course, you either have to be a member of the Who fan club, which costs about $59.99!!!, or pay the $59.99 PER TICKET on ticketmaster! SCUMS.
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Originally posted by Joe M.:
You can buy tickets to some of the dates right now on ticketmaster.com. Of course, you either have to be a member of the Who fan club, which costs about $55!!!, or pay the $55 on ticketmaster! SCUMS.
Or you could just do the smart thing and not go at all.
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Originally posted by Joe M.:
You can buy tickets to some of the dates right now on ticketmaster.com. Of course, you either have to be a member of the Who fan club, which costs about $59.99!!!, or pay the $59.99 PER TICKET on ticketmaster! SCUMS.
It's not $59.99 per ticket - It's $59.99 per order.
All you're doing is buying a single fan club membership on-the-spot.
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I was having some tea with James Iha and he said the Pumpkins will be playing Pimlico...
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i think we can conclude that the Who have definitely been asked to play and they are almost certainly the band holding up the works here.
they may not play, but it wont be for lack of trying.
man that would just be the coolest thing on earth.
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Originally posted by Fico:
I was having some tea with James Iha and he said the Pumpkins will be playing Pimlico...
i rather have the wu tang clan :D
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by Fico:
I was having some tea with James Iha and he said the Pumpkins will be playing Pimlico...
i rather have the wu tang clan :D [/b]
or the chili peppers......
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i think crazy horse should play.
would be fitting.
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Originally posted by Fico:
I was having some tea with Jimi Haha and he said the 'Chicken Shack will be playing Pimlico...
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by Fico:
I was having some tea with Jimi Haha and he said the 'Chicken Shack will be playing Pimlico...
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Haha. Sad, but probably true.
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
i think crazy horse should play.
would be fitting.
Yeah, that would be cool...with Neil!
Throw in Band Of Horses and Windsor For The Derby.
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i hear a hurricane is going to hit baltimore on 9/23/06.
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Originally posted by anarchist:
i hear a hurricane is going to hit baltimore on 9/23/06.
Oh, shit! Radiohead must be the band that's holding them up then. :roll:
That's okay, as long as it stays away from Fredericksburg, Virgina!
Nah, actually I'm wishing all the best towards the Virgin Baltimore (which sounds like an oxy-moron) Festival. Hoping so much that it's a big success so that we may have even more of them in years to come; albeit, with a much better and more Virgin UK line up.
There's also a big outdoor music festival on the very same day over in Druid Hill Park (Baltimore). Don't know a whole lot about it other than that someone contacted me asking me to take part. More Hoya's crowd so don't think it will be a big conflict with the fans but traffic might be a bit worse around I83 between North Ave. and Northern Parkway.
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
More Hoya's crowd
by "my crowd" you mean "pinko commie limousine liberals wracked with white guilt", right? sounds like a great festival!
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perhaps you're talking about the Baltimore Music Conference which is a festival for everyone...
Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:09:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: "The Baltimore Music Conference" <bmoremusic@yahoo.com>
Subject: Baltimore Music Conference
For Immediate Release:
The 2nd Annual Baltimore Music Conference is a one day showcase of new music, networking, keynote addresses and panels. The event attracts more than 4,000 music professionals, artists and music lovers. This years BMC is planned to be held Sept 23rd, 2006 in Druid Hill Park.
This year's BMC will feature over 200 bands & DJs performing on over 10 stages. Last year's performers included Terry Mullan and members of Wu-Tang Clan as well as many bands and DJs predominently from the Baltimore/DC metro area.
Submissions in all genres for showcase consideration will be accepted through June 30, 2006. Performers can visit www.BMCon.org (http://www.BMCon.org) to download an application and return by post or visit www.sonicbids.com (http://www.sonicbids.com) to apply electronically.
BMC panels will cover the state of the music business with scheduled topics including radio promotion, retail, artist management, technology, webcasting, Internet sales and distribution, college radio, independent labels, film soundtracks and more. Selected artists will receive all access badges, which will grant them admission to all that the conference has to offer including all of our showcases and panels.
Being situated between Philly & DC and more widely between NY & Fl, Baltimore is the perfect place to draw the entire east coast together for the largest, all music, all genres, all encompassing, & all exciting outdoor music festival and conference.
Independent Stages, Promotional, Vendor and Visual Artist Spaces are now available as well as Sponsorship and Advertising opportunities. Please visit our website for more information.
www.bmcon.org (http://www.bmcon.org)
The above press release has been sent out several times in the last 6 months. We've had over 175 submissions to perform on our stages and the selection process is finalizing now. Line ups will be announced by Aug 1st.
After parties will be held in venues all over Baltimore in support of what the BMC is all about... support for local music of all genres.
Thankfully our support is not only local but worldwide... fundraisers coming up:
Sunday... July 16th... Sonar
407 E Saratoga St
9pm -2am
ADAM F
Breakbeat Kaos Recordings l www.AdamF.com (http://www.AdamF.com) l Kiss FM
UK
MURAMASA
Buzzlife | ALIAS | InnerDC
DC
LOGO
Neighborhood Watch
B'more
A supporter of the BMC since it's inception, Adam makes his way back to Baltimore for the 1st time in over a year. We are pleased to have him come represent for the BMC!
$10 presale at www.bmcon.org (http://www.bmcon.org) or $12 at the door
Friday... July 28th... Full Moon Saloon
1710 Aliceanna St
10pm -2am
Jammin' at the Full Moon
The Damsels
Three Hots & A Cott
more TBA
and the latest in our series of fundraisers...
For Immediate Release: July 7, 2006
The Baltimore Music Conference announced today that their organization will be hosting the DMC American Battleground 2006 Eliminations here in Baltimore on Friday August 4th. The picturesque 3rd floor of Gardel??s Supper Club will be taken over from 7pm until 10pm by upcoming and enthusiastic young DJs, each trying to make a name for themself by out spinning and out scratching their competition to win a chance at competing in the USA championships.
The first place winner of each American Battleground Elimination will compete at the 2006 DMC USA FINALS in Chicago IL. The first place winner of the 2006 USA Final will represent the United States at the 2006 DMC DJ Championship WORLD FINAL in London.
The Baltimore Music Conference which serves and supports all members of the music community are proud to have been asked to host this coveted event as one of the many events and fundraisers leading up to the actual conference in the Fall.
Following the competition, the party then moves downstairs to the 2nd floor for an over 21 event with performers to be announced.
$10 competition/$10 after party or $15 for both
www.bmcon.org (http://www.bmcon.org)
www.myspace.com/bmoremusic (http://www.myspace.com/bmoremusic)
www.gardels.com (http://www.gardels.com)
Although 2 festivals so close to each other may cause some delays with city transportation & such, we wish the organizers of VFest the best of luck and salute them for bringing such a festival to Baltimore as they must feel as we do... that it's a great location! Music fans all over now have the advantage of seeing both those you know & those you don't... yet, all in one day!
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Is there any info on ticket sales yet? or band line up
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Yeah Sprklqueen, that's it! It looks good. Just such a shame that so many music festivals are all happening on the same day making us have to choose between them.
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Oh, wait a minute! I know what this is. This is the same one that took place in Patterson Park last year. I really wanted to go to the one last year but, alas, again it took place on the same day as one of my Shoegaze festivals.
On top of it, it's also the same day as the Roger Waters festival at Nissan. Now, that is an evening show and you'd think you could squeeze part of one into the day except that the Nissan traffic madness would eat up the entire day portion. But being a Saturday, at least one won't be competing with work traffic so shouldn't be as bad.
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yeah, it happens that way sometimes... too many ideas, not enough dates available I suppose. I checked the city calendar & with the permit offices here back in January (when I was putting in for our permit) for other already scheduled events to be sure we weren't looking at the same date as another festival but sometimes, things just pop up out of nowhere.
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but what would the point of making a US festival more like the UK festival, especially when there already is said UK version?
Originally posted by Jaguar:
with a much better and more Virgin UK line up
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So true, Sprklqueen. Also, the permit office is probably only checking for its local jurisdiction. The Walls Of Sound Fest and Roger Waters are in Virginia but, though I could be very wrong, I don't think the Virgin Festival was planned until after January.
On the good side, there's plenty to do for all of us, if we can only make up our minds. No good reason to cry too many tears either if one gets shut out of tickets for anyone's first choice because there are plenty of good options. And the BMC is FREE!!!...and won't shut anyone out...and I know the WoSF won't sell out with it attracting such a niche audience. Roger Waters is just too damned expensive so there may be plenty of tickets left for that one.
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Originally posted by nkotb:
Maybe I'm missing something here, but what would the point of making a US festival more like the UK festival, especially when there already is said UK version?
Originally posted by Jaguar:
with a much better and more Virgin UK line up
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It doesn't on an A/R marketing angle but you've read all the complaints so you know what it means. Or maybe make it less HFS Alternative-like and more Coachella Indie-like.
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quote: And the BMC is FREE!!!...and won't shut anyone out.
alas, it's not free, but it is only $10 ($5 for students & seniors). And with over 700 acres of park to play with, we def won't be shutting anyone out.
Plans now are to have 5 stages hosted by the BMC with several other staging areas hosted by local promotional crews, venues, etc... probably will be 12 - 15 staging areas in all. Being all about all music of all genres, we'll have something for everyone there including a dance performance stage, seminars for those in the industry, artists, & other vendors.
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i think we should look at the lineup before making these rash decisions.
i mean, sure, RHCP is alterna-crap but Gnarls B, Flaming Lips, Raconteurs and CYHSY arent really HFStival bands. and the Who, well i dont know why any festival wouldnt get the who if they could!!
so lets wait til the rest of the show comes out.
besides, if the Virgin Festival had nothing but forum approved bands, it would sell about 10,000 tickets, tank and never happen again.
and furthermore, most people on here wont be going anyway cause its a big festival. :)
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
Hoping so much that it's a big success so that we may have even more of them in years to come; albeit, with a much better and more Virgin UK line up.
Jag is hoping for a lineup better than the one she doesnt know yet. i dont get it.
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This is so true. Everyone is already griping about it. Why not feel lucky that we're even getting a music festival with several decent bands. Sure, I'd be more psyched for something like Chicago is getting, or even the Siren Festival, but beggers can't be choosers.
Originally posted by corporal clegg:
i think we should look at the lineup before making these rash decisions.
i mean, sure, RHCP is alterna-crap but Gnarls B, Flaming Lips, Raconteurs and CYHSY arent really HFStival bands. and the Who, well i dont know why any festival wouldnt get the who if they could!!
so lets wait til the rest of the show comes out.
besides, if the Virgin Festival had nothing but forum approved bands, it would sell about 10,000 tickets, tank and never happen again.
and furthermore, most people on here wont be going anyway cause its a big festival. :)
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
and furthermore, most people on here wont be going anyway cause its a big festival. :)
yep, i'll probably be down in fredericksburg for wall of sound that weekend ... jag, did i tell you i met someone who knew you down there? he was DJing at some dc9-sized club, said he was helping to put together the wall of sound fest and in one of the bands playing there, can't remember his name for the life of me
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Originally posted by nkotb:
This is so true. Everyone is already griping about it. Why not feel lucky that we're even getting a music festival with several decent bands.
yup. everyone i know in Toronto is totally stoked about the show.
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Shouldn't you be staying home and blowing the shofar?
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
Originally posted by corporal clegg:
and furthermore, most people on here wont be going anyway cause its a big festival. :)
yep, i'll probably be down in fredericksburg for wall of sound that weekend ... jag, did i tell you i met someone who knew you down there? he was DJing at some dc9-sized club, said he was helping to put together the wall of sound fest and in one of the bands playing there, can't remember his name for the life of me [/b]
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Shouldn't you be staying home and blowing the shofar?
only the cool kids get to blow the shofar ... and i identify with judaism on a national/cultural level, not as much on a religious basis ... you guys have so many questions!
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From the Post's weekend chat:
Wheaton, Md.: Heard the Who are touring? True? Are they coming here?
Richard Harrington: The answer is yes. Keep your ears peeled for a major announcement on Monday.
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Let's be realistic. Its not The Who. Its Townshend&Daltrey. And I'm pretty sure those two have just a small fraction of their power remaining. Saw them at Nissan last go round (in 2000? W/ Entwhistle?) and it was rather forgettable (in fact, I almost don't believe it happened). Wildcard potential for a resurgence . . . a la the Stones post-Bill Wyman. . . particularly w/ what appears to be additional hype this time around.
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Originally posted by nkotb:
This is so true. Everyone is already griping about it. Why not feel lucky that we're even getting a music festival with several decent bands. Sure, I'd be more psyched for something like Chicago is getting, or even the Siren Festival, but beggers can't be choosers.
I hope you feel the same way when the DAM! Fest line-up gets announced.
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Originally posted by redsock:
Originally posted by nkotb:
This is so true. Everyone is already griping about it. Why not feel lucky that we're even getting a music festival with several decent bands. Sure, I'd be more psyched for something like Chicago is getting, or even the Siren Festival, but beggers can't be choosers.
I hope you feel the same way when the DAM! Fest line-up gets announced. [/b]
is the Who playing the DAM festival too? ;)
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Flaming Lips are confirmed to play V Fest
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so is the Who. they are definitely playing :)
as are the Killers.
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
so is the Who. they are definitely playing :)
as are the Killers.
I assume the official list will be out soon, but on RNR this morning they said...
The Who, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Gnarles Barkley, The Raconteurs, Flaming Lips, The Killers, Wolfmother, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, Brazilian Girls and others
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
Originally posted by ggw?:
Shouldn't you be staying home and blowing the shofar?
only the cool kids get to blow the shofar ... and i identify with judaism on a national/cultural level, not as much on a religious basis ... you guys have so many questions! [/b]
That's the same as me! I identify with methodism on a national/cultural level, not as much on a religious basis
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this is sounding like a one stage festival. i hope its not. i really do.
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Drive-By Truckers
Keane
are also comfirmed :)
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Lineup (http://billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002840096)
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97.50
ouch. (i'm still going, but unfortunately, a lot of my friends will pull the suck card and stay home) oh well.
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$97.50?!?!? You've got to be kidding me. The two biggest headliners are RHCP (please) and a band that would have been exciting to see live 40 years and two living members ago. This thing is going to "sponsored" like nothing you've seen before. This isn't something like the "Field Day" festival. I'd have gone for $50.00 but with service charges a ticket is easily going to be over $100. $100? For "When You Were Young?" I'll pass. Maybe Roger Daltry will throw out a hip or something.
Brian
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I wonder how much the Who added to that price? Hopefully not much. Oh well, I will definitely still go, but many of my friends most likely will not at that price.
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Now, that I think of it weren't pit tickets MORE at this year's "HFStival" than what they will be for this thing? Remember when the HFStival was "15 bands for 15 bucks?"
Discussion topic. Which is a more pathetic version of their former self? The HFStival or "The Who?"
Brian
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Originally posted by Brian_Walalce:
Now, that I think of it weren't pit tickets MORE at this year's "HFStival" than what they will be for this thing? Remember when the HFStival was "15 bands for 15 bucks?"
Discussion topic. Which is a more pathetic version of their former self? The HFStival or "The Who?"
Brian
or you.
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Originally posted by Brian_Walalce:
This isn't something like the "Field Day" festival.
you mean they arent going to move it to M&T Bank Stadium 3 days before the event? :roll:
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97.50..what the fuck. no thanks.
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$97.50?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good luck on that one!
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That is very expensive ticket. Still deciding...
I really don't think this is going to sell out fast.
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i cant believe you people are surprised at $100.
oh, the days of a big festival costing $30 just isnt happening. lol.
i would say that the Who jacked up the prices a good $30, though.
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U.K.'s Virgin Fest Trots to Baltimore
The Who, Chili Peppers Among Starters at Pimlico
By J. Freedom du Lac
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, July 17, 2006; Page C01
And they're off!
Putting pop music -- and lots of it -- where the ponies usually run in Baltimore, Britain's massively successful Virgin Festival is coming stateside, with a one-day American edition of the super-concert scheduled for Sept. 23 at Pimlico Race Course.
The ambitious lineup is topped by classic rock stalwarts the Who, chart-topping funk-rockers the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and modern hitmakers the Killers and Gnarls Barkley.
"My goal was to put together a blockbuster event that's worthy of being called one of America's great music festivals," says the event's producer and promoter, Seth Hurwitz. "I want to give this area the biggest and best show it's ever had."
Some might say that was achieved during the glory days of the HFStival, but the assembled Virgin Festival talent is notable nonetheless.
The rock bacchanalia will also feature the Flaming Lips, the Raconteurs, Keane, Scissor Sisters, Thievery Corporation, New Pornographers, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, Wolfmother, Drive-By Truckers, Kasabian and at least a half-dozen other youth-skewing acts from the indie-rock and club-music genres.
The complete lineup will be announced today, and tickets ($97.50) will go on sale Saturday. Lots and lots of tickets: Using a general-admission setup, Pimlico can accommodate up to 60,000 concertgoers, Hurwitz says. As such, he's advertising the day-long show in New York, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia and beyond. "This will be a big East Coast event."
Bring on the Bonnaroo of Baltimore, the mid-Atlantic's answer to Austin City Limits, the Coachella of the East Coast!
Okay, maybe not.
The upcoming Austin City Limits Music Festival will feature 130 bands on eight stages over three days. The Bonnaroo Music & Arts Festival (held on a 700-acre farm in Manchester, Tenn.) and Coachella Valley Music Festival (staged in middle-of-nowhere, California) are similar-sized annual pop extravaganzas.
By comparison, the U.S. Virgin Festival -- backed by Virgin Group's singular chief, the billionaire Richard Branson -- might seem downright quaint, with some 20 artists scheduled to perform on two stages, plus a deejay tent, over a single 10-hour stretch.
Hurwitz says his booking philosophy emphasized quality over quantity, to the point that he resisted putting together a two-day concert -- "because I didn't feel we could do two days' worth of entertainment without seriously diluting the lineup for the one knockout show I wanted to do."
He also didn't want to copy the Coachella or Bonnaroo blueprints.
"Most festivals have a ton of bands on a million stages, and you need a chart to figure it out. It's sensory overload," says Hurwitz, co-owner of IMP Productions, which owns the 9:30 club and operates the Merriweather Post Pavilion. "I just wanted the best of the best."
Set lengths will vary, with the artists at the beginning of the bill playing less than the biggest names. "Big sets from the big bands," Hurwitz says. "But it's not going to be like a radio festival. People aren't going to do five hits and then take off."
Pimlico was selected as the U.S. Virgin Festival site by the creators of the 11-year-old British original. (They're also launching a Canadian edition this year, over two days in early September, at Toronto Island Park.)
While the track that hosts the Preakness Stakes might seem a peculiar choice for a rock festival, it's pretty familiar turf for Hurwitz: In the '90s, he successfully produced multiple Lollapalooza festivals at Charles Town Races in West Virginia.
Might Virgin Festival become an annual event at Pimlico? "That's the idea," Hurwitz says. Just depends on how the first one goes. (Insert cart-before-horse cliche here.)
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The thing that doesn't make sense is that the concert industry and the music industry in general really isn't doing that well. We're not in a boom period where you can name your price for a concert. Only Madonna and the Rolling Stones can do that. Simple economics state that if something isn't selling OR if you are trying to introduce a new product you would LOWER the price to spur sales. The concert industry and music industry needs to lower the prices on concerts and music to make people want to buy them again. But of course that's never going to happen. With the current national and world situation, I think whoever priced this concert and HFStival were dreaming. If you have to charge this much for a concert just to have a handful of "name" bands then don't have it.
Who is this line-up aimed for anyway? Very few of the bands on this line-up appeal to the 16-21 crowd, do they?
I'm sure the people who booked this worked very hard on the line-up and I don't want to be a pessimist. I hope whoever goes to this enjoys the concert. But I just can't see the public sustaining the concert business when most of the tickets are $100+.
Brian
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It's aimed for people who can afford a $100 ticket.
Originally posted by Brian_Walalce:
Who is this line-up aimed for anyway? Very few of the bands on this line-up appeal to the 16-21 crowd, do they?
Brian
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hehe. yeah. I will be going for sure. and i think it will sell out. not right away,. but eventually i think it will.
i want to have this here every year! :)
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I don't know whether I'll attend this, but not because of the $$$.
It was around $100 for Elvis Costello and BSO at Strathmore; around the same for Ben Folds and BSO at Merriweather. Around the same for U2 around the country. Hell, it was $45 (plus service charges, shipping etc.) for Belle and Sebastian last week.
$100 - $125 for a whole day of entertainment = very good value to me.
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Originally posted by Brian_Walalce:
Who is this line-up aimed for anyway? Very few of the bands on this line-up appeal to the 16-21 crowd, do they?
Why does a festival have to be geared towards 16-21 year olds? Good on them for not booking a bunch of Fall Out Boy clones.
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I think that the tickets will sell pretty well. When you get bands with name recognition like the Who and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, there will be a demographic of older folks with money who don't go to many concerts that would easily shell out $100+ to see them. I don't think this kind of festival is geared towards us boardie types because a) most of these bands we can see at the 9:30 Club and watch them play full sets (Drive-By Truckers, Kasabian, Thievery Corp. and Scissor Sisters would all probably fall in that category), then there's 1 huge teeny-bopper band (the Killers) and 1 pretty pop band (Keane), and of course the 2 big headliners. For those of us that go to a lot of concerts, there's probably not one big draw that most of us DC-based folks would say "WOW, I am SO not going to miss that." I think that's the draw and success of something like Coachella. They have carved out a niche, and they feed off of certain types of bands that, when put together, is diverse but still manages to draw enough folks over 2 days even though it's in the middle of nowhere (even if they did add Madonna on this year, but is more of an exception than a rule). More power to Seth for putting on a big show like this. I don't think we should criticize it just because it's not what some of us want. I won't complain about it, but I will politely pass because it doesn't offer enough of the type of music I want to see that would make it worth my time and money. This is a forum that allows us the chance to voice our opinions. I know it's a business, but personally I would have considered going if there had been a few more bands that haven't toured the area in a while: the Stooges, the Shins, PJ Harvey, etc. And of course I can only imagine how different a festival like this would have turned out with a band like Radiohead on. But I can imagine that folks like that were approached and they were probably just unavailable. Just imagine if he was able to get a band like the Smiths or the Stone Roses to reform for something like this.
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And I think this will sell out pretty quickly, based on being marketed as a "big east coast event".
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Originally posted by bearman:
I don't think this kind of festival is geared towards us boardie types because a) most of these bands we can see at the 9:30 Club and watch them play full sets (Drive-By Truckers, Kasabian, Thievery Corp. and Scissor Sisters would all probably fall in that category), then there's 1 huge teeny-bopper band (the Killers) and 1 pretty pop band (Keane), and of course the 2 big headliners. For those of us that go to a lot of concerts, there's probably not one big draw that most of us DC-based folks would say "WOW, I am SO not going to miss that." I think that's the draw and success of something like Coachella.
This is a very good point. For people that don't go to a lot of concerts, or don't want to go to a lot of concerts, this is a great opportunity to see it all at once, all in one day.
For the record, I'm thrilled that they're doing this festival. I hope it continues on into the future and it can eventually become a bigger event. It is great to have something like this so close to home.
Compared, however, to a fest like Lollapalooza or ACL or even Coachella/Bonnaroo, this does seem pricey. Those festivals last three days, and cost about $50 to $60 more - featuring more bands and bigger headliners. I can appreciate that they have to cover costs, but $100 for a one day event, when you consider the other festivals that it can be compared to, is pretty steep.
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the main reason i am going to go is this:
the majority of my friends dont go to as many concerts as i, and dont go delving into as much new music either. so this will be a chance for me to go enjoy a concert with dozen of friends, and other than RHCP, i can really stand to listen to any of the bands on the lineup.
also, Coachella started out as a one day festival, and has turned into something really great. so i will support this in hopes that it can gain a name and perhaps Seth can make this into its own thing too.
its not like ANYONE on this board can really talk shit on Seth or his ideas and such, right?
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Is there a way to purchase these tickets at a box office, so that we can escape the ticketmaster charges?
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Originally posted by JohnnyBaconbitz:
Is there a way to purchase these tickets at a box office, so that we can escape the ticketmaster charges?
Good question.
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
i cant believe you people are surprised at $100.
oh, the days of a big festival costing $30 just isnt happening. lol.
i would say that the Who jacked up the prices a good $30, though.
I agree with the above. I actually expected more than $100 with The Who on the bill.
I think the price is fair for a festival of this magnitude. Personally, I'm less than impressed with the final line-up. I think the only bands on the bill that I feel I must see are The Raconteurs and The Flaming Lips. The rest I've either seen before (and in more intimate venues) or don't particularly want to see at all. Also, I'm just not a fan of the big outdoor music festival format. I'm on the fence somewhat, but I suspect I'll be attending, even if it's only for The Raconteurs and The Flaming Lips. With my luck, they'll both be playing at the same time!
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Maybe the option to buy a ticket for $50 with the requirement to leave before the Who will come up.... put me down for that! Never understood nor followed the who... and IMHO is the major sore spot of this lineup.... but I understand I'm probably not the majority.
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Originally posted by myuman:
Maybe the option to buy a ticket for $50 with the requirement to leave before the Who will come up.... put me down for that! Never understood nor followed the who... and IMHO is the major sore spot of this lineup.... but I understand I'm probably not the majority.
Change "The Who" to "Red Hot Chili Peppers" and I'm right with you.
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Originally posted by eros:
Change "The Who" to "Red Hot Chili Peppers" and I'm right with you.
Ditto.
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Pollstar has been updated with the full line-up:
http://pollstar.com/tour/searchall.pl?By=Venue&Content=pimlico (http://pollstar.com/tour/searchall.pl?By=Venue&Content=pimlico)
http://www.virginfestival.com/ (http://www.virginfestival.com/) still says to "check back on July 17." :roll:
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A lot of valid points but a clarification is needed on Coachella, it did not start out as a 1 day festival, it had one year with one day but the original Coachella in 99 was 2 days. And unlike Coachella, that began not as a attempt to have the "best" festival in America it became that by having the diversity of acts that's easily assembled by Goldenvoice in the LA area and just added to its mystique by continuing to cater to the type of crowd that frequently reads this board, and still did so even by adding Madonna. It seems odd that the first foray by V festival in the the US would come to this type of set up but it appears that this is just a licensing effort and they gave the local promoter complete control of the event which is nice and the effort and intentions seem earnest enough. I'll probably go because I'm a festival junkee and I want to support the effort even if I'm underwhelmed by the offering but the Toronto stop looks like it will have a bit more success and likelihood of becoming an annual event IMO.
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
A lot of valid points but a clarification is needed on Coachella, it did not start out as a 1 day festival, it had one year with one day but the original Coachella in 99 was 2 days. And unlike Coachella, that began not as a attempt to have the "best" festival in America it became that by having the diversity of acts that's easily assembled by Goldenvoice in the LA area and just added to its mystique by continuing to cater to the type of crowd that frequently reads this board, and still did so even by adding Madonna. It seems odd that the first foray by V festival in the the US would come to this type of set up but it appears that this is just a licensing effort and they gave the local promoter complete control of the event which is nice and the effort and intentions seem earnest enough. I'll probably go because I'm a festival junkee and I want to support the effort even if I'm underwhelmed by the offering but the Toronto stop looks like it will have a bit more success and likelihood of becoming an annual event IMO.
And I think that diversity provided by Coachella's multitude of acts makes it a little more cost-worthy than this event, at least in my opinion. It's an interesting lineup, but I've already seen both headliners before and paid to see them and I'd love to see the Chili Peppers again and The Who, too, but I'm not sure my $100 would feel completely well spent on this ticket. There aren't THAT many other acts I really want to see...Flaming Lips, Scissor Sisters, Raconteurs...but do I really want to see them for $100? Plus, at these festivals, you have to factor in the cost of gas to get the hell out there and back, or a hotel if you're spending the night, and food, and water, and all of that shit. Starting already at a high ticket price does not get me super gung ho about this.
I'm sure it will be successful, though, at least as much so as an HFStival back in the day...
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the festival site is live now. no new info, other than if you want to park, you will have to buy a 'premium' parking ticket
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hey guys,
long-time 930er, new user to the forum. Just wanted to say thanks for all the great info, looking forward to the V-Fest but not looking forward to paying $100.
cheers,
bm4
oh, I suggest you attend Secret Machines this Friday, I've seen em once before and was impressed.
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Love the password. Perfect for Pimlico.
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Totally. Makes perfect sense, but I doubt anyone would guess it. God Bless Baltimore.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Love the password. Perfect for Pimlico.
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Originally posted by nkotb:
Makes perfect sense, but I doubt anyone would guess it. God Bless Baltimore.
It's true -- good password. Seriously, I might have guessed THEWHO. That's about as tough as they usually are.
maybe VIRGIN...
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Password? What Password?
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Nevermind
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How much are Yuenglings gonna be?
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I cringed when I heard the WTOP news reporter introduce Seth as "Jeff Horowitz" this afternoon. Seth politely corrected him, and the reporter then said "Seth" at the beginning of every sentence thereafter.
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For all the confidence that "This to sell fast so get your tickets early," why would they make it so scalper friendly by allowing someone to buy 8 tickets at a pre-sale? Now there are some people with 7 other friends, even those willng to pay $800 plus upfront to ensure the whole gang get tickets, but are there that many of them? Scalpers will get their hands on tickets in any case but do we have to make it easy for them? A confident promoter would do 2, or at most 4 tickets during a pre-sale and I would argue for only 4 per person in any case. This is just a useless rant, they could care less who buys the tickets or who actually goes, just as long as costs are recouped profit is made, I understand capitalism so I'm not MAD at them for that, just wish they'd make those bastards work a little harder, TicketBastard is firmly entrenched in Hell but collectively ticket brokers are the Devil incarnate.
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Originally posted by fooschae:
I cringed when I heard the WTOP news reporter introduce Seth as "Jeff Horowitz" this afternoon. Seth politely corrected him, and the reporter then said "Seth" at the beginning of every sentence thereafter.
When I heard the story on WTOP, they got the first name correct, but Frank Herzog referred to him as Seth "Horowitz" - twice.
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Looking at the V Fest lineup reminds me of looking at someone's fantasy football team after the draft who quietly put together a solid team, even you didn't think any of their picks were particularly impressive. Consistently strong talent, some underrated guys no one's talking about, and can't miss warhorses. Didn't get the "Larry Johnson"-superstar . . . i.e. Radiohead . . . and the Studs are technically past their prime. BUT think about it: The Who, RHCP, and Jack White were arguably THE best live acts of their eras. Flaming Lips and Thievery Corporation are huge. Gnarls Barkley and CYHSY may disappoint in this setting . . . but they're cool . . . and you need lowlights to get beers. The NME darling wildcards - Killers - anthems are conducive to the festival atmosphere if you're not close enough to see that the music is emanating from a Douche on a sparkly keyboard; Keane - also solid anthems; Kasabian; Scissor Sisters - never seen them but supposedly they're fun; Wolfmother - ditto. Throw in some hall of fame djs in Carl Cox and Digweed; and then throw in DBT, NPs, Brazillian Girls, and RJD2 and you've got a squad that can really do some damage.
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I don't know about calling RHCP one of the best live acts of their eras or any eras for that matter. I've heard a lot of people say their live show is just ok, if not unimpressive.
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Although they wouldn't rank in a listing of my favorite bands, I have seen RHCP 5-6 times over the last 20 years and I think they do put on a good show. Kiedis's schtick gets a little tired, but Flea and Frusciante are great.
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with 2 stages going on simultaniously you probably get to choose between rhcp + the who at the end. didn't the who retire over 20 yrs ago? can't tell sell their songs to make commercials? some day i would like to see them at the black cat.
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Originally posted by andyrichter:
I don't know about calling RHCP one of the best live acts of their eras or any eras for that matter. I've heard a lot of people say their live show is just ok, if not unimpressive.
Granted they are a polarizing band, but you could argue in good faith there was no better live band in the 87-91 era. Of course you could (and probably should) argue that Jane's Addiction was better . . . or whoever else. The Chili Peppers show at Richie Coliseum in 1990 on the Mother's Milk tour was as intense/fun/exciting show as I've ever seen. I heard they were even better in the Hillel era. The last time I saw them was headlining that tour with Pearl Jam and Smashing Pumpkins and it was an incredible show. A lot has changed since then (I assume - and it may be hard to remember the energy they had back then (as it may be hard to remember how great Jane's Addiction was while watching Dave Navarro host Rock Star Supernova).
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Originally posted by Mobius:
Flaming Lips and Thievery Corporation are huge.
As for The Flaming Lips being huge, they played in Philly this weekend for FREE and there were only a few hundred people there.
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i feel like i've been living under a rock or something. usually i know about these festivals around the same time all the "insiders" do. but then again, I am in western maryland for the summer.
I think this is a great thing for those who don't go to many concerts. I wish I could go, but it's hard to tell if it's possible. (As a family, we don't do vacations, we go to music festivals and concerts.) If my family and I didn't go to many concerts, I think my parents would be more than alright with paying 97 bucks. well, my dad agrees with me that 97 for both the who and RHCP is just amazing. my mom on the other hand, isn't too thrilled with the idea of paying that much.
Anyways, I think it's wonderful something this huge is happening. Let's face it, WHFS is pretty much dead. well, it's dying slowly from what i've heard and been told. It's about time that this area gets a huge festival to happen again. I miss going to all day events and seeing a crap load of bands. Not to mention, as a music journalist, this music festival makes me drool. granted, i'm not into the over hyped bands (ie- the killers and clap your hands and say yeah), but i like the fact that there's variety and the possibility of more events to happen like this.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by Mobius:
Flaming Lips and Thievery Corporation are huge.
As for The Flaming Lips being huge, they played in Philly this weekend for FREE and there were only a few hundred people there. [/b]
I'd say there were at least 3000 people. There should have been more, but it was poorly advertised.
As for their overall 'hugeness,' they do tend to play toward the end of the night at these festival things.
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I'm kinda bummed. This old fart has tix to see Roger Waters already, on the very same night as the V Fest. Ah well, there's always next year ....
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Originally posted by chancegardener:
I'm kinda bummed. This old fart has tix to see Roger Waters already, on the very same night as the V Fest. Ah well, there's always next year ....
You should get a good show though. The venue Nissan is what kept me away. Still debating this VFEST. I've seen the RHCP more than I ever needed to and it's hard to get too excited about The Who at this stage of their game. They did an ace job with the rest of the lineup, no doubt about that. Whats up with the VIP? If I'm willing to shell out the 100 and drive 3 hours 1 way,I hope there's some info on whatever extra perks that may be available at addl. cost anounced sometime this week.
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Originally posted by chaconas:
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by Mobius:
Flaming Lips and Thievery Corporation are huge.
As for The Flaming Lips being huge, they played in Philly this weekend for FREE and there were only a few hundred people there. [/b]
I'd say there were at least 3000 people. There should have been more, but it was poorly advertised.
As for their overall 'hugeness,' they do tend to play toward the end of the night at these festival things. [/b]
hmmm...my estimate may be a little low, but 3000 seems a little high. I didn't see 3x a 9:30 capacity-crowd there. Still, even 3000 at a free show hardly qualifies as "huge" IMHO.
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Having seen The Who live three times, the last being the Quadrophenia tour, I'd more excited to see Pete solo then them. Unless of course it was a hot sweat show with them at club then we are talking...
So can we start putting requests for next years festival? Robbie Williams is my first choice...
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Thievery Corporation are huge.
Last time, they were in Baltimore, there was maybe 150 people there.
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Hey All,
Can someone send me the fancy "password" for the Pimlico pre-sale. Any help would be much appreciated.
Derek St Tufnel
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the password is: BARBARO
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Thanx all (Big KC)
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we need to create a 930 Forum band to dollar ratio chart!
that way we all can tell if a show costs too much or not! this will really help me out, since i feel like i am getting ripped off here, paying 2 tanks of gas for an all day rock concert.
sheesh.
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I've thought about this, stared at the lineup for a while, and..... this is a JV lineup in varsity clothing (100 bucks, hype, exc.). If the wife and I go, we're pushing a quarter grand. To each their own, but this lineup falls behind all but this year's HFS and all Coachella's. Come on, don't believe me, just think the Who and RHCP.... are they really... well... anything important/worthwhile seeing? Hey, if you think I'm wrong.. great. Go and enjoy, but I won't be taking the 45 minute drive to see this "premier music festival"... just not worth it.... and another thing... Pimlico? I go to preakness every year, and usually watch the race from the street. What a dump! The area, the facility... a dump. I'm not trying to bash, but come on... is this the best the festival gods can grace on our area?
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oh my god stop the bitching. do you realize what a bunch of whiny whiny whiny people you sound like?
i am glad you guys ARENT going because this festival wouldnt be much fun with you people there anyway!
good fucking lord.
the who and RHCP suck, ok? we GET IT!!
if anyone on here paid $50 to see Belle and Sebastian, you can now be quiet because you've already BEEN ripped off.
ok, i am done. :)
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At ease, corporal!
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
At ease, corporal!
lol. sorry. its just sometimes you try to get excited about something and then you come on here.
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From the Baltimore Sun...
"The event falls on Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year, and Pimlico is near Jewish communities in Northwest Baltimore. The director of the city's Office of Neighborhoods is setting up a meeting between the Mount Washington Improvement Association and concert organizers.
A meeting date has not been set, but the president of the association, Mac Nachlas, said he was concerned about public safety, traffic, trash and noise. He said Rosh Hashana is a day of introspection when many people don't drive, and that traffic from the show could be dangerous for pedestrians.
"When Pimlico has concerts, we can hear it quite loudly in our neighborhood," Nachlas said. "Frankly, I'm not sure the Red Hot Chili Peppers are conducive to a day of introspection."
A spokeswoman for Mayor Martin O'Malley said the effect on the neighborhood would be manageable because the event would draw fewer people than the 100,000-plus who attend the Preakness every year."
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Someone help me out here...60K GA tickets are being sold and people are worried about getting their tickets soon to avoid being shut out?
Do folks really think that these tickets are going to disappear anytime in the next couple weeks?
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People are worried because they think that since it is being promoted heavily in several cities that is has the possibility of selling out
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Back in the heyday of the HFStival they could sell 40-50K tickets in a few hours. Granted, they were much cheaper.
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Correct me if I am mistaken, but aren't The Who, like, deceased, or something..?
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Originally posted by anarchist:
with 2 stages going on simultaniously you probably get to choose between rhcp + the who at the end.
you think???
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I don't think the lineup is all that terrific. But, maybe that's b/c I've seen most of the bands I like already (except for Gnarls Barkley)
100 bucks seems a little high for being around drunk ass 98 rock listeners all day. I'll save my $$$ for Coachella.
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Originally posted by myuman:
Pimlico? I go to preakness every year, and usually watch the race from the street.
have you met rhett? you guys would be the bestest of friends!
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This concert may not be conducive to Rosh Hashana, but it is conducive to that other sacred Jewish tenet, capitalism.
Originally posted by lbcardoni:
From the Baltimore Sun...
"The event falls on Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year, and Pimlico is near Jewish communities in Northwest Baltimore.... He said Rosh Hashana is a day of introspection when many people don't drive, and that traffic from the show could be dangerous for pedestrians.
..."When Pimlico has concerts, we can hear it quite loudly in our neighborhood," Nachlas said. "Frankly, I'm not sure the Red Hot Chili Peppers are conducive to a day of introspection."
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Its funny that everyone, including myself, would love to have a great big festival on the east coast, but when we get one there is so much bickering. Its the V Festival, for chrissakes. The prices are the same as they are in Europe (for a one-day pass). The lineup looks similar to the British ones as far as quality goes. Its going to be big and glossy and corporate, like the Brit version. Personally, I think its nice to have a festival so close - I've always hated the WHFS festival lineups and I've never gone. I might not go to this either, but maybe next year I will if the lineup is right.
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Originally posted by callat703:
Compared, however, to a fest like Lollapalooza or ACL or even Coachella/Bonnaroo, this does seem pricey. Those festivals last three days, and cost about $50 to $60 more - featuring more bands and bigger headliners. I can appreciate that they have to cover costs, but $100 for a one day event, when you consider the other festivals that it can be compared to, is pretty steep.
but for people in Baltimore, DC, Philly and areas in between, you have to think about the plane, hotel, days off work factor that it takes going to Coachella. the ticket may be pricey, but this show is going to be 1/4 of the price of my Lollapalooza trip next month.
(and no one is a bigger headliner than the Who, imo)
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Has anyone checked the police reports for the Preakness race. 10 car jackings/ 22 stolen cars/ 174 car break ins (yes 174)/ 13 muggings/ 2 rapes/ 73 disorderly (fighting & drunken)
...Pimlico welcomes you with open arms.
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Originally posted by squidbitz:
Has anyone checked the police reports for the Preakness race. 10 car jackings/ 22 stolen cars/ 174 car break ins (yes 174)/ 13 muggings/ 2 rapes/ 73 disorderly (fighting & drunken)
...Pimlico welcomes you with open arms.
A large farm in Baltimore County would have been serene... but 60,000 people trying to find a place to park in one of the most crime ridden areas of Baltimore sounds fun though
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Originally posted by Big KC:
the password is: BARBARO
I thought it was "Shana Tova"
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Originally posted by myuman:
but I won't be taking the 45 minute drive to see this "premier music festival"... just not worth it....
WHOA, 45 minutes. That IS insane. Gotta bag this whole notion...
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
Originally posted by callat703:
Compared, however, to a fest like Lollapalooza or ACL or even Coachella/Bonnaroo, this does seem pricey. Those festivals last three days, and cost about $50 to $60 more - featuring more bands and bigger headliners. I can appreciate that they have to cover costs, but $100 for a one day event, when you consider the other festivals that it can be compared to, is pretty steep.
but for people in Baltimore, DC, Philly and areas in between, you have to think about the plane, hotel, days off work factor that it takes going to Coachella. the ticket may be pricey, but this show is going to be 1/4 of the price of my Lollapalooza trip next month.
(and no one is a bigger headliner than the Who, imo) [/b]
Yep, this is true. I lucked out and got the $45 tickets to Lollapalooza.
And again - thrilled that the festival is happening. It would just take a different lineup for me to head out to it for that price. I hope that its wildly successful and continues on for years to come.
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
oh my god stop the bitching. do you realize what a bunch of whiny whiny whiny people you sound like?
good fucking lord.
Good fucking Lord is right.
I've never seen the Who, but I love them. I'd assume I was paying $100/ticket to see just them. Okay, I realize I'm not in the majority (in that I'm a Who fan who's never seen them -- back when they were last touring I really stayed away from stadium shows).
But come on -- this is a huge festival meant to appeal to 60,000 people. I guess I'm not surprised the indie Pitchfork "too bad DBT are playing 9:30 Club instead of Galaxy Hut" crowd isn't in to it here.
I pray that the thing sells out, Seth is victorious and we might get another big show again. I'm not sure I'm going, but I'm thinking about it. It's a valiant effort.
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Originally posted by paul3mac:
Originally posted by squidbitz:
Has anyone checked the police reports for the Preakness race. 10 car jackings/ 22 stolen cars/ 174 car break ins (yes 174)/ 13 muggings/ 2 rapes/ 73 disorderly (fighting & drunken)
...Pimlico welcomes you with open arms.
A large farm in Baltimore County would have been serene... but 60,000 people trying to find a place to park in one of the most crime ridden areas of Baltimore sounds fun though [/b]
if you come in from 83 and northern parkway you'll have no problem.
they DO have a tremendous parking problem though. and i hope for their sake they set up busses to run to and from the grounds from a larger/safer parking lot. because the Preakness gets 100,000 people but MOST of them come in on busses. too bad i dont know anyone who works at a bus company anymore.
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Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by corporal clegg:
oh my god stop the bitching. do you realize what a bunch of whiny whiny whiny people you sound like?
good fucking lord.
Good fucking Lord is right.
I've never seen the Who, but I love them. I'd assume I was paying $100/ticket to see just them. Okay, I realize I'm not in the majority (in that I'm a Who fan who's never seen them -- back when they were last touring I really stayed away from stadium shows).
But come on -- this is a huge festival meant to appeal to 60,000 people. I guess I'm not surprised the indie Pitchfork "too bad DBT are playing 9:30 Club instead of Galaxy Hut" crowd isn't in to it here.
I pray that the thing sells out, Seth is victorious and we might get another big show again. I'm not sure I'm going, but I'm thinking about it. It's a valiant effort. [/b]
What I don't understand, as someone posted earlier, how people can bitch about the price of this, but be fine with $50 for Belle and Sebastian?!?
My only gripes, I wish the Who wasn't on it, because I'm not all that interested in seeing them and I feel they added significantly to the ticket price, but I understand they probably were needed in order to sell 60,000 tickets.
The location is also a bit strange to me, but I assume other locations were considered and this was deemed the best.
I think overall the lineup is very solid though and I'm thrilled to see something like this come to the East Coast, much less Baltimore.
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
if you come in from 83 and northern parkway you'll have no problem.
they DO have a tremendous parking problem though. and i hope for their sake they set up busses to run to and from the grounds from a larger/safer parking lot. because the Preakness gets 100,000 people but MOST of them come in on busses. too bad i dont know anyone who works at a bus company anymore.
A shuttle bus from a light rail stop would be cool.
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Originally posted by paul3mac:
Originally posted by corporal clegg:
if you come in from 83 and northern parkway you'll have no problem.
they DO have a tremendous parking problem though. and i hope for their sake they set up busses to run to and from the grounds from a larger/safer parking lot. because the Preakness gets 100,000 people but MOST of them come in on busses. too bad i dont know anyone who works at a bus company anymore.
A shuttle bus from a light rail stop would be cool. [/b]
not cool, fucking excellent. it would solve all my problems :) and anyones really considering theres a light rail stop right at Camden Yards so DC people could just drive right there and head up from the stadium
(and since i live so close, stop by the sonick canadian pre-party!)
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Originally posted by paul3mac:
What I don't understand, as someone posted earlier, how people can bitch about the price of this, but be fine with $50 for Belle and Sebastian?!?
Because, let's face it, the company is better. It's like the difference between going to a nice restaurant and McDonalds. I don't know which is worse, hanging out at a race track with useless, balding (but still rocking the ponytail!) baby boomers hoping to "rock out" with The Who or drunken, moron frat boys wanting to see RHCP do "some crazy shit." I wouldn't be caught dead hanging out with SIX of either of those types of fans, let alone 60,000.
Brian
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For those of us who love Belle and Sebastian, it's better to pay $50 and see them play for 1 hour and 50 minutes because it's a better value than paying $100 to maybe see just a couple of bands we like playing for only 30 minutes. Unless you want to check out like 5 or more bands, it's more worthwhile.
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Originally posted by Brian_Walalce:
Originally posted by paul3mac:
What I don't understand, as someone posted earlier, how people can bitch about the price of this, but be fine with $50 for Belle and Sebastian?!?
Because, let's face it, the company is better. It's like the difference between going to a nice restaurant and McDonalds. I don't know which is worse, hanging out at a race track with useless, balding (but still rocking the ponytail!) baby boomers hoping to "rock out" with The Who or drunken, moron frat boys wanting to see RHCP do "some crazy shit." I wouldn't be caught dead hanging out with SIX of either of those types of fans, let alone 60,000.
Brian [/b]
dude, you're just an asshole...thats all there is to it.
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Originally posted by bearman:
For those of us who love Belle and Sebastian, it's better to pay $50 and see them play for 1 hour and 50 minutes because it's a better value than paying $100 to maybe see just a couple of bands we like playing for only 30 minutes. Unless you want to check out like 5 or more bands, it's more worthwhile.
i was about to pay Belle and Sebastian $50 to STOP playing, about 45 minutes into their show!
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Originally posted by lbcardoni:
From the Baltimore Sun...
"The event falls on Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year, and Pimlico is near Jewish communities in Northwest Baltimore. The director of the city's Office of Neighborhoods is setting up a meeting between the Mount Washington Improvement Association and concert organizers.
A meeting date has not been set, but the president of the association, Mac Nachlas, said he was concerned about public safety, traffic, trash and noise. He said Rosh Hashana is a day of introspection when many people don't drive, and that traffic from the show could be dangerous for pedestrians.
"When Pimlico has concerts, we can hear it quite loudly in our neighborhood," Nachlas said. "Frankly, I'm not sure the Red Hot Chili Peppers are conducive to a day of introspection."
A spokeswoman for Mayor Martin O'Malley said the effect on the neighborhood would be manageable because the event would draw fewer people than the 100,000-plus who attend the Preakness every year."
Well, looks like I officially CAN'T go...now I really miss Hillel Slovak
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Originally posted by Brian_Walalce:
Originally posted by paul3mac:
What I don't understand, as someone posted earlier, how people can bitch about the price of this, but be fine with $50 for Belle and Sebastian?!?
Because, let's face it, the company is better. It's like the difference between going to a nice restaurant and McDonalds. I don't know which is worse, hanging out at a race track with useless, balding (but still rocking the ponytail!) baby boomers hoping to "rock out" with The Who or drunken, moron frat boys wanting to see RHCP do "some crazy shit." I wouldn't be caught dead hanging out with SIX of either of those types of fans, let alone 60,000.
Brian [/b]
you like the snotty nerds in ugly shoes and catchy t-shirt belle and sebastian crowds, more?
yeah, they are much smarter.
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Originally posted by Bags:
I've never seen the Who, but I love them. I'd assume Okay, I realize I'm not in the majority (in that I'm a Who fan who's never seen them -- back when they were last touring
I hear tell Keith Moon's refrigerator will be there. Don't miss it.
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
Originally posted by Brian_Walalce:
Originally posted by paul3mac:
What I don't understand, as someone posted earlier, how people can bitch about the price of this, but be fine with $50 for Belle and Sebastian?!?
Because, let's face it, the company is better. It's like the difference between going to a nice restaurant and McDonalds. I don't know which is worse, hanging out at a race track with useless, balding (but still rocking the ponytail!) baby boomers hoping to "rock out" with The Who or drunken, moron frat boys wanting to see RHCP do "some crazy shit." I wouldn't be caught dead hanging out with SIX of either of those types of fans, let alone 60,000.
Brian [/b]
you like the snotty nerds in ugly shoes and catchy t-shirt belle and sebastian crowds, more?
yeah, they are much smarter. [/b]
It makes you just as big of an asshole to stereotype Belle & Sebastian fans, so both of you should shut your yappers.
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Haha! A 16 year old girl is the voice of reason between to adult males.
I love the internet.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
It makes you just as big of an asshole to stereotype Belle & Sebastian fans, so both of you should shut your yappers.
i only said that to prove a point. thanks for being so quick on it though ;)
besides, most of my friends fall into the ugly shoe category, i imagine Brian Wallace has no frat boy friends, and probably never has.
and i was just at a B&S show two weeks ago, and saw the majority of the people there walk past me.
i imagined my stereotype to be MUCH more on target than his.
and lastly, i wont shut my yapper. i will not succomb to the negativity from you people on this event....i wont do it.
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
Originally posted by you be betty:
It makes you just as big of an asshole to stereotype Belle & Sebastian fans, so both of you should shut your yappers.
i only said that to prove a point. thanks for being so quick on it though ;)
besides, most of my friends fall into the ugly shoe category, i imagine Brian Wallace has no frat boy friends, and probably never has.
and lastly, i wont shut my yapper. i will not succomb to the negativity from you people on this event....i wont do it. [/b]
#1 It still doesn't make you right. Stooping down to his level to prove your point against him just makes your argument flawed. There are plenty of people with very cute shoes that enjoy Belle & Sebastian, and there are plenty of perfectly-well educated young people that enjoy the Red Hot Chili Peppers. So just calm down.
#2 succUmb
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Belle and Sebastian fans typically wear NIKE basketball shoes?
Originally posted by corporal clegg:
Brian [/b]
you like the snotty nerds in ugly shoes and catchy t-shirt belle and sebastian crowds, more?
yeah, they are much smarter. [/QB]
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Belle and Sebastian fans typically wear whatever the fuck they want because they are, like, totally, maybe, kind of, actually human beings.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
#1 It still doesn't make you right. Stooping down to his level to prove your point against him just makes your argument flawed. There are plenty of people with very cute shoes that enjoy Belle & Sebastian, and there are plenty of perfectly-well educated young people that enjoy the Red Hot Chili Peppers. So just calm down.
#2 succUmb
you make as little sense as me. my "argument" was exactly what you wrote after writing that my argument was flawed, i just went around the bend by making it, cause i am a smartass.
though, i didnt see many cute shoes at Merriweather.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Belle and Sebastian fans typically wear whatever the fuck they want because they are, like, totally, maybe, kind of, actually human beings.
as opposed to?
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Originally posted by chancegardener:
I'm kinda bummed. This old fart has tix to see Roger Waters already, on the very same night as the V Fest. Ah well, there's always next year ....
I second that. Oh, well...I guess I'll have to settle for the VFest in Toronto instead. It's on Olympic Island (no cars = no car jackings) and while they're not getting RHCP or The Who, they are getting Sam Roberts, The Dears, Hidden Cameras, and K'Naan. Seems like a fair trade in my books :)
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Do you get it? The point I'm trying to make is that yeah, there are different types of people into different stuff everywhere. You shouldn't just lump people together like that. Nobody should.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Do you get it? The point I'm trying to make is that yeah, there are different types of people into different stuff everywhere. You shouldn't just lump people together like that. Nobody should.
we have the same point for chrissakes, i am sorry you misunderstood mine as something else.
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Okie doke. Just making sure.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Do you get it? The point I'm trying to make is that yeah, there are different types of people into different stuff everywhere. You shouldn't just lump people together like that. Nobody should.
Whoa there!!! I agree with you for the most part, but I think its perfectly fair to say that all Phish fans are filthy hippies. Its a simple and scientific fact. But nice try.
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I bet you won't find many Belle and Sebastian fans in poor white rural areas or inner city black neighborhoods.
Originally posted by you be betty:
Belle and Sebastian fans typically wear whatever the fuck they want because they are, like, totally, maybe, kind of, actually human beings.
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Originally posted by PigIron:
Originally posted by you be betty:
Do you get it? The point I'm trying to make is that yeah, there are different types of people into different stuff everywhere. You shouldn't just lump people together like that. Nobody should.
Whoa there!!! I agree with you for the most part, but I think its perfectly fair to say that all Phish fans are filthy hippies. Its a simple and scientific fact. But nice try. [/b]
Watch it.
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
I bet you won't find many Belle and Sebastian fans in ... inner city black neighborhoods.
no no, you're way off on that one ... there are TONS of belle & sebastian fans in inner city black neighborhoods, what do you think all the white gentrifiers listen to!?
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i highly doubt that. they sold out nearly every date on their us tour last year, including 3 back to back nights at the 930 club. and if i'm not mistaken, sold out every night of their european tour last year as well.
Originally posted by lbcardoni:
Thievery Corporation are huge.
Last time, they were in Baltimore, there was maybe 150 people there. [/b]
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*giggling*
furthermore, as gay white men are typically the first of the "urban pioneers" to move into aforementioned neighborhoods, and according to someone (don't remember who) who posts on here, b&s have a significant following the gay community, then you are indeed, spot on hoya!
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
I bet you won't find many Belle and Sebastian fans in ... inner city black neighborhoods.
no no, you're way off on that one ... there are TONS of belle & sebastian fans in inner city black neighborhoods, what do you think all the white gentrifiers listen to!? [/b]
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so i'm sitting here debating whether or not to go to this festival. i don't think $100 is a lot of money for an all day festival at all. i was expecting at least $75. and even better, you can buy at the 930 and avoid the stupid fees!
regardless of whether i choose to attend or not, i hope they get a good turn out. hell, if it does sell out (though i don't think it will), i'll be thrilled for seth.
we've been bitching for years that all the good music festivals are in europe, and all we get stateside is coachella to their multiple festivals. so you know what, hats off to seth for putting this together and bringing it to a city nearby.
this is the inagural attempt so obviously there are going to be some bumps and a few glitches. but who the fuck cares, that's expected! we have a music festival, FINALLY! and it ain't crappy hfstival! and a festival, that i'm sure one, if continued in 2007, that seth will defintely look to his boardies for suggestions to make it even more successful. (ie, band suggestions, of which, i second robbie williams!). future v festivals have the potential to be as rockin' stateside as they are in england.
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Robbie
Williams!
Robbie
Williams!
Robbie
Williams!
:p
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Originally posted by lily1:
so i'm sitting here debating whether or not to go to this festival. i don't think $100 is a lot of money for an all day festival at all. i was expecting at least $75. and even better, you can buy at the 930 and avoid the stupid fees!
regardless of whether i choose to attend or not, i hope they get a good turn out. hell, if it does sell out (though i don't think it will), i'll be thrilled for seth.
we've been bitching for years that all the good music festivals are in europe, and all we get stateside is coachella to their multiple festivals. so you know what, hats off to seth for putting this together and bringing it to a city nearby.
this is the inagural attempt so obviously there are going to be some bumps and a few glitches. but who the fuck cares, that's expected! we have a music festival, FINALLY! and it ain't crappy hfstival! and a festival, that i'm sure one, if continued in 2007, that seth will defintely look to his boardies for suggestions to make it even more successful. (ie, band suggestions, of which, i second robbie williams!). future v festivals have the potential to be as rockin' stateside as they are in england.
yay lily
you are correct all over the place. yes, there will be glitches. the big one i see is parking and getting in and out of the venue.
Preakness has 100,000 attendees, but every bar in Baltimore and 30 miles out rents busses to take dozens of drunks to the track. I would imagine that 2/3 of the infield at any given preakness doesnt actually drive there. I really hope they thought of this, busses from the harbor, DC, the light rail stops, etc will help ease traffic.
and also true that festivals, like clubs or bars, get reputations for being good or bad. HFS could have crapped in a bag and set it on fire onstage in 1995 and they could have sold out RFK. but now, Radiohead might not have sold out Merriweather, cause people think HFS is crap.
that said, they need a big ole turnout for their first show or two, then once they can get people to be like "i am going there every year" (like Coachella has) they can put some acts on the bill that have more diversity and appeal to the indie kids
i have never been to europe but a friend of mine went last summer, went to V Fest, Glastonbury, some fest in Germany and one in Belgium and she said that despite americans thinking all European festivals are like way cool and everyones nice, most of them are just like HFStival, bunch of drunk jerks throwing beer around and flashing their boobies.
i know , i know Coachella isnt like that, but hey, its California. people are too cool to get drunk :)
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For me there are very few acts which can headline a large festival that I'm interested in seeing and most of them are classic rock like Stooges, Bowie, Neil Young & Crazy Horse, and AC/DC. Depeche Mode or Madonna doing a extended set she did at Live 8 would be something to see. Just haven't been a big festival type of person for several years now...
My fingers are crossed they'll add six Voxtrot quality acts to the bill, because as it stands right now I'd rather take the risk the Raconteurs hit this area on their own later in the year. Sparklefest, my kind of festival, takes place in Raleigh the next weekend and I'd rather there be sharing tea with hopefully The Shazam and The Mockers.
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Originally posted by Bags:
Robbie
Williams!
Robbie
Williams!
Robbie
Williams!
:p
Woot! I'd be there then.
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Who is sponsoring The Who's tour anyway, Metamucil? See The Who and die.
If The Who can tour, what's next?
A Beatles tour to support the new album?
A Ramones tour?
How many surviving members does a band have to have in order to form a "We're broke we need fast cash" tour?
There was a fake commercial on the old Saturday Night Live, back when that program was funny, where Elvis' jacket was on tour crooning the hits. Maybe now even Elvis will make a comeback?
If The Ramones did decide to tour, who would they get for lead singer...John Paul Rodgers is already taken?
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i highly doubt that. they sold out nearly every date on their us tour last year, including 3 back to back nights at the 930 club. and if i'm not mistaken, sold out every night of their european tour last year as well.
When they were at Club One in 2003, there was no one there...
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Originally posted by lily1:
*giggling*
furthermore, as gay white men are typically the first of the "urban pioneers" to move into aforementioned neighborhoods, and according to someone (don't remember who) who posts on here, b&s have a significant following the gay community, then you are indeed, spot on hoya!
Eh I think you're wrong here..it's the white druggies that move in first. Gotta be close to the package!
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Originally posted by who the fuck are you?:
Eh I think you're wrong here..it's the white druggies that move in first. Gotta be close to the package!
druggies?? who the hell says that anymore.
and no, its gay men.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Well, looks like I officially CAN'T go...now I really miss Hillel Slovak
Didn't he die before you were born?
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Originally posted by crusader:
Originally posted by you be betty:
Well, looks like I officially CAN'T go...now I really miss Hillel Slovak
Didn't he die before you were born? [/b]
indeed, but i have still enjoyed his music, and knowing that his presence was once there made me proud :)
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Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
Who is sponsoring The Who's tour anyway, Metamucil? See The Who and die.
If The Who can tour, what's next?
A Beatles tour to support the new album?
A Ramones tour?
How many surviving members does a band have to have in order to form a "We're broke we need fast cash" tour?
There was a fake commercial on the old Saturday Night Live, back when that program was funny, where Elvis' jacket was on tour crooning the hits. Maybe now even Elvis will make a comeback?
If The Ramones did decide to tour, who would they get for lead singer...John Paul Rodgers is already taken?
absolutely right. entwhistle was all i liked the band for. towhnsend can suck me
;)
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Well, I think I've decided to pass on the Virgin Festival this year. I was really only interested in seeing The Raconteurs and The Flaming Lips, but I just don't think it's worth the cost and hassle for me to see basically just two bands. I couldn't talk any of my friends into going either, so that's also factored into my decision, and, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm just not a fan of the music festival format. 'Tis a shame. I have a feeling that this may be my only chance ever to see The Raconteurs perforrm, and unlike so many vocal naysayers on this forum, I really like their album (and pretty much anything Jack White does, I admit). I hope the festival is a success and that next year is even better.
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I'm leaning toward not going...the 100 something to see a couple bands (lips, rancontuers and the drive by truckers), plus the hassle of getting in and out of pimlico is pointing me towards no...put the money aside and save up for coachella next year, or something
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Originally posted by stu47:
I'm leaning toward not going...the 100 something to see a couple bands (lips, rancontuers and the drive by truckers), plus the hassle of getting in and out of pimlico
What hassle (http://www.ridhughz.demon.co.uk/wav/HASSLE.WAV)? Just take light rail and hoof it from Cold Spring lane.
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Did anyone else have issues getting tickets w/ th presale today? I tried using the password I got through Volume, at about 6 pm, and while it seemed to take the password, it told me that there were no tickets available. I guess I'll just do the regular sale.
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i thought the presale was friday?
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lollapalooza > v-card festival
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the 930 club presale is friday....but there were some presales yesterday too from what i've read. (dc 101 i think)
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It really is quite disappointing that they scheduled such a great concert on one of the most important Jewish holy days. I would have loved to go to the show but unfortunately I can't. Amazing that Seth Hurwitz wouldn't be sensitive to this issue.
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Originally posted by fdalawyer:
It really is quite disappointing that they scheduled such a great concert on one of the most important Jewish holy days. I would have loved to go to the show but unfortunately I can't. Amazing that Seth Hurwitz wouldn't be sensitive to this issue.
give the guy a fucking break - sweet jesus, if its not high ticket prices its a shitty lineup, if its not a shitty lineup its religious insensitivity.....talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't
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Originally posted by brennser:
Originally posted by fdalawyer:
It really is quite disappointing that they scheduled such a great concert on one of the most important Jewish holy days. I would have loved to go to the show but unfortunately I can't. Amazing that Seth Hurwitz wouldn't be sensitive to this issue.
give the guy a fucking break - sweet jesus, if its not high ticket prices its a shitty lineup, if its not a shitty lineup its religious insensitivity.....talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't [/b]
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Originally posted by brennser:
Originally posted by fdalawyer:
It really is quite disappointing that they scheduled such a great concert on one of the most important Jewish holy days. I would have loved to go to the show but unfortunately I can't. Amazing that Seth Hurwitz wouldn't be sensitive to this issue.
give the guy a fucking break - sweet jesus, if its not high ticket prices its a shitty lineup, if its not a shitty lineup its religious insensitivity.....talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't [/b]
I would have been happy to pay the ticket price and I generally like the line up. But I can't go because I have to be in synagogue all day. There are only two major Jewish holidays in the whole year. It wouldn't be too hard to avoid them.
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This post proves that we are the whiniest, most self-centered bunch of fucks in the world.
Originally posted by fdalawyer:
Originally posted by brennser:
Originally posted by fdalawyer:
It really is quite disappointing that they scheduled such a great concert on one of the most important Jewish holy days. I would have loved to go to the show but unfortunately I can't. Amazing that Seth Hurwitz wouldn't be sensitive to this issue.
give the guy a fucking break - sweet jesus, if its not high ticket prices its a shitty lineup, if its not a shitty lineup its religious insensitivity.....talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't [/b]
I would have been happy to pay the ticket price and I generally like the line up. But I can't go because I have to be in synagogue all day. There are only two major Jewish holidays in the whole year. It wouldn't be too hard to avoid them. [/b]
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Originally posted by fdalawyer:
It really is quite disappointing that they scheduled such a great concert on one of the most important Jewish holy days. I would have loved to go to the show but unfortunately I can't. Amazing that Seth Hurwitz wouldn't be sensitive to this issue.
Are you really that much of a true believer in your chosen religion? Do you think Yaweh will think less of you if you attend the concert?
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/team_dupek/6873ea90.jpg" alt=" - " /> "Blessings from the state. You are a true believer."
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Yeah, Seth. You should have scheduled it during Ramadan. What's wrong with you?
The line-up is awesome. Even if you only liked one or two bands, it wouldn't kill you to hear a couple new ones. For instance:
Kasabian, Kasabian, Kasabian - oh yeah, and I'm with you, Bags: Robbie Williams, Robbie Williams, Robbie Williams!
The presale worked great...one more WOOOO-HOOOO!
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I'M ON THE MAILING LIST BUT NEVER GOT THE PRESALE PASSWORD. ANYONE KNOW WHAT IT IS. DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT.
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For anyone who went to Siren or is going to Lolla, the line up is simply not worth it, hasslefree or not. I've decided against buying on the presale...think there's any chance of Kasabian and the Killers doing individual shows in the area other than this festival?
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I'm in as well. Looking forward to it.
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Download Festival in California is on Sept 30th with Beck, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Muse, Wolfmother (again)......
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Originally posted by Joe M.:
Download Festival in California
wait for it ..................
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Which is a better deal? Virgin Fest, 97.50 for one day, or Osheaga Fest in Montreal $80 Canadian (=$65 American?) for two days?
http://www.osheaga.com/ (http://www.osheaga.com/)
Saturday, September 2 2006
Sonic Youth Clap Your Hands Say Yeah K-Os Malajube Dinosaur Jr. Metric The Stills The Magic Numbers World Party Amon Tobin Grace Potter & the Nocturnals Joseph Arthur James Chance Bush Tetras We Are Wolves Duchess Says Crystal Clyffs Think About Life The Hushpuppies +more Sunday, September 3 2006
Ben Harper and the Innocent Criminals Flaming Lips Damian Marley Bedouin Soundclash DobaCaracol Wolf Parade The Dears Bell Orchestre Lady Sovereign G. Love & Special Sauce Islands Starsailor Kid Koala Final Fantasy Kiss Me Deadly The Hidden Cameras Call Me Poupée Herman Düne Zombie +more
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2nd day lineup is weak.
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Which is a better deal? Virgin Fest, 97.50 for one day, or Osheaga Fest in Montreal $80 Canadian (=$65 American?) for two days?
http://www.osheaga.com/ (http://www.osheaga.com/)
Saturday, September 2 2006
Sonic Youth Clap Your Hands Say Yeah K-Os Malajube Dinosaur Jr. Metric The Stills The Magic Numbers World Party Amon Tobin Grace Potter & the Nocturnals Joseph Arthur James Chance Bush Tetras We Are Wolves Duchess Says Crystal Clyffs Think About Life The Hushpuppies +more Sunday, September 3 2006
Ben Harper and the Innocent Criminals Flaming Lips Damian Marley Bedouin Soundclash DobaCaracol Wolf Parade The Dears Bell Orchestre Lady Sovereign G. Love & Special Sauce Islands Starsailor Kid Koala Final Fantasy Kiss Me Deadly The Hidden Cameras Call Me Poupée Herman Düne Zombie +more
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Which is a better deal? Virgin Fest, 97.50 for one day, or Osheaga Fest in Montreal $80 Canadian (=$65 American?) for two days?
pretty much every other festival (pitchfork, coachella, ACL, etc) featuring similar types bands on the lower end (Wolfmother, CYHSY, etc) of the scale are "better deals", but they generally don't have huge "anchors" like The Who or RHCP that will bring in casual music listeners who don't regularly go to concerts
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I read that it's the Who's first tour in 10 years? Didn't they tour 2 years ago after the bass player died??
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Which is a better deal? Virgin Fest, 97.50 for one day, or Osheaga Fest in Montreal $80 Canadian (=$65 American?) for two days?
pretty much every other festival (pitchfork, coachella, ACL, etc) featuring similar types bands on the lower end (Wolfmother, CYHSY, etc) of the scale are "better deals", but they generally don't have huge "anchors" like The Who or RHCP that will bring in casual music listeners who don't regularly go to concerts [/b]
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Originally posted by fdalawyer:
Originally posted by brennser:
Originally posted by fdalawyer:
It really is quite disappointing that they scheduled such a great concert on one of the most important Jewish holy days. I would have loved to go to the show but unfortunately I can't. Amazing that Seth Hurwitz wouldn't be sensitive to this issue.
give the guy a fucking break - sweet jesus, if its not high ticket prices its a shitty lineup, if its not a shitty lineup its religious insensitivity.....talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't [/b]
I would have been happy to pay the ticket price and I generally like the line up. But I can't go because I have to be in synagogue all day. There are only two major Jewish holidays in the whole year. It wouldn't be too hard to avoid them. [/b]
does this mean there wont be ANY jews at the concert???? none at all???
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I agree. We'll actually be in Montreal the first day of the festival, but since my we'll be with my mom, won't be hitting the fest.
I agree with Hoya about Virgin having the big anchor bands. I'd rather see a festival full of critical darlings than a collection of bands designed to attract a wide and casual listening demographic.
Originally posted by Joe M.:
2nd day lineup is weak.
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Which is a better deal? Virgin Fest, 97.50 for one day, or Osheaga Fest in Montreal $80 Canadian (=$65 American?) for two days?
http://www.osheaga.com/ (http://www.osheaga.com/)
Saturday, September 2 2006
Sonic Youth Clap Your Hands Say Yeah K-Os Malajube Dinosaur Jr. Metric The Stills The Magic Numbers World Party Amon Tobin Grace Potter & the Nocturnals Joseph Arthur James Chance Bush Tetras We Are Wolves Duchess Says Crystal Clyffs Think About Life The Hushpuppies +more Sunday, September 3 2006
Ben Harper and the Innocent Criminals Flaming Lips Damian Marley Bedouin Soundclash DobaCaracol Wolf Parade The Dears Bell Orchestre Lady Sovereign G. Love & Special Sauce Islands Starsailor Kid Koala Final Fantasy Kiss Me Deadly The Hidden Cameras Call Me Poupée Herman Düne Zombie +more
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Which is a better deal? Virgin Fest, 97.50 for one day, or Osheaga Fest in Montreal $80 Canadian (=$65 American?) for two days?
http://www.osheaga.com/ (http://www.osheaga.com/)
Saturday, September 2 2006
Sonic Youth Clap Your Hands Say Yeah K-Os Malajube Dinosaur Jr. Metric The Stills The Magic Numbers World Party Amon Tobin Grace Potter & the Nocturnals Joseph Arthur James Chance Bush Tetras We Are Wolves Duchess Says Crystal Clyffs Think About Life The Hushpuppies +more Sunday, September 3 2006
Ben Harper and the Innocent Criminals Flaming Lips Damian Marley Bedouin Soundclash DobaCaracol Wolf Parade The Dears Bell Orchestre Lady Sovereign G. Love & Special Sauce Islands Starsailor Kid Koala Final Fantasy Kiss Me Deadly The Hidden Cameras Call Me Poupée Herman Düne Zombie +more
if i lived in Montreal , this is a much better deal.
and if i lived in Cali, then Coachella would be a better deal.
i dont get your point here.
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Alright, for argument sake, let's say you lived in Nebraska. Or somewhere else where the travel expense to any one of them is equal.
Using your analogy, I guess a vacation at Ocean City would be a better deal than a vacation on the French Riviera.
Originally posted by corporal clegg:
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Which is a better deal? Virgin Fest, 97.50 for one day, or Osheaga Fest in Montreal $80 Canadian (=$65 American?) for two days?
http://www.osheaga.com/ (http://www.osheaga.com/)
Saturday, September 2 2006
Sonic Youth Clap Your Hands Say Yeah K-Os Malajube Dinosaur Jr. Metric The Stills The Magic Numbers World Party Amon Tobin Grace Potter & the Nocturnals Joseph Arthur James Chance Bush Tetras We Are Wolves Duchess Says Crystal Clyffs Think About Life The Hushpuppies +more Sunday, September 3 2006
Ben Harper and the Innocent Criminals Flaming Lips Damian Marley Bedouin Soundclash DobaCaracol Wolf Parade The Dears Bell Orchestre Lady Sovereign G. Love & Special Sauce Islands Starsailor Kid Koala Final Fantasy Kiss Me Deadly The Hidden Cameras Call Me Poupée Herman Düne Zombie +more
if i lived in Montreal , this is a much better deal.
and if i lived in Cali, then Coachella would be a better deal.
i dont get your point here. [/b]
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
I agree. We'll actually be in Montreal the first day of the festival, but since my we'll be with my mom, won't be hitting the fest.
I agree with Hoya about Virgin having the big anchor bands. I'd rather see a festival full of critical darlings than a collection of bands designed to attract a wide and casual listening demographic.
theres the hipster we know and love!
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Alright, for argument sake, let's say you lived in Nebraska. Or somewhere else where the travel expense to any one of them is equal.
Using your analogy, I guess a vacation at Ocean City would be a better deal than a vacation on the French Riviera.
ohhh, so for arguements sake, lets pretend like my point doesnt exist? ok, then you are right rhett, montreal is a fantastic deal.
good job!
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
[qb] Alright, for argument sake, let's say you lived in Nebraska. Or somewhere else where the travel expense to any one of them is equal.
Using your analogy, I guess a vacation at Ocean City would be a better deal than a vacation on the French Riviera.
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not if i lived in France!
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Ok, gotcha.
I don't have any interest in a vacation in OC or MB, nor do I want to go to either festival. So perhaps you are "spot on"...as the wannabe hipsters say...in your comparison.
Good for you for being enthusiastic about the Virgin Fest.
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Ok, gotcha.
I don't have any interest in a vacation in OC or MB, nor do I want to go to either festival. So perhaps you are "spot on"...as the wannabe hipsters say...in your comparison.
Good for you for being enthusiastic about the Virgin Fest.
:)
i almost feel stupid....
i cant wait til they open the forum on their site so i can discuss this show with people who are actually going.
and for the record, i wish the lineup was better...but i love festivals and glad i can go to one and sleep in my bed afterwards! :)
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<img src="http://www.themoononline.com/imagesone/isceambandj.jpg" alt=" - " />
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one of my friend bought his tickets on the presale and got the e-tickets and said you were allowed to bring Beer and wine and soda to the show.
now, i am saying 100% thats just not true and they just copied the rules from Preakness, but really...that would be pretty awesome!
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<img src="http://www.badhorsey.net/gallery/norton.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
does this mean there wont be ANY jews at the concert???? none at all???
fuck rosh hashana, we just have better taste in music and a better sense of a bargain than to shell out $50 more than we should for this festival because two bands we could give a shit about seeing are anchoring the bill
:D
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I would rather it wasn't on Rosh Hashana but this was the only date that worked with the key parties involved
so the choice was simply to move forward, or not
I grew up not being allowed to do things like this on Rosh Hashana although, of course, the rest of the world went on while my family made that choice
when I became an adult I was able to make those choices for myself
If someone finds that faith and tradition is more important than going to a rock concert, then I totally respect that decision, as it is a personal one
I hope that those same people will also respect the decisions that other people make for themselves
let freedom ring
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
we just have better taste in music
are you sure about that?
<img src="http://www.timeout.com/newyork/export_images/544/544.x231.mr.reviews.matisyahu.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
<img src="http://www.timeout.com/newyork/export_images/544/544.x231.mr.reviews.matisyahu.jpg" alt=" - " />
jesus, i have no answer for that bastard ... ignore my previous statement, we're really just a bunch of dope-smoking phish-heads
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
let freedom ring
<img src="http://www.newjerusalemgifts.com/store/products/tn/t_62.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
Originally posted by corporal clegg:
<img src="http://www.timeout.com/newyork/export_images/544/544.x231.mr.reviews.matisyahu.jpg" alt=" - " />
jesus, i have no answer for that bastard ... ignore my previous statement, we're really just a bunch of dope-smoking phish-heads [/b]
lol.
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after further discussion i believe this show will sell out tomorrow.
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
let freedom ring
<img src="http://www.newjerusalemgifts.com/store/products/tn/t_62.jpg" alt=" - " /> [/b]
That's not a ring it's a lapel pin.
I think I am beginning to understand. Jews attend these Holiday thingies not because they are devoutly religious, in point of fact many are self-professed athiests who claim to be into "Eastern Religions". They attend because they are afraid that if they don't go to these holiday services then they will become totally assimilated into American society...and lose their Jewish identity.
Am I getting warmer..? I read this in Newsweek, BTW. So it must be true.
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Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
I think I am beginning to understand. Jews attend these Holiday thingies not because they are devoutly religious, in point of fact many are self-professed athiests who claim to be into "Eastern Relgions". They attend because they are afraid that if they don't go to these holiday services then they will become totally assimilated into American society...and lose their Jewish identity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll)
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll)
"golf clap"
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Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll)
"golf clap" [/b]
its actually quite sad.
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
I hope that those same people will also respect the decisions that other people make for themselves
If these people were the ones making the money, they wouldn't have a problem with it either.
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Which is a better deal? Virgin Fest, 97.50 for one day, or Osheaga Fest in Montreal $80 Canadian (=$65 American?) for two days?
Considering I have to fly to Montreal, find a place to stay and eat out at restaurants, VF is by FAR the better deal.
And supporting Seth, IMP and the local scene: priceless.
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Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Which is a better deal? Virgin Fest, 97.50 for one day, or Osheaga Fest in Montreal $80 Canadian (=$65 American?) for two days?
Considering I have to fly to Montreal, find a place to stay and eat out at restaurants, VF is by FAR the better deal.
And supporting Seth, IMP and the local scene: priceless. [/b]
but what if you lived in Nebraska?
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If you live in California and they schedule a concert on a Jewish holiday. . .
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Originally posted by Graace:
If you live in California and they schedule a concert on a Jewish holiday. . .
duh dum tish!
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Remind me why I need to "support" Seth? I'm willing to wager that he has enough $$ to support me, for a number of years.
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Which is a better deal? Virgin Fest, 97.50 for one day, or Osheaga Fest in Montreal $80 Canadian (=$65 American?) for two days?
Considering I have to fly to Montreal, find a place to stay and eat out at restaurants, VF is by FAR the better deal.
And supporting Seth, IMP and the local scene: priceless. [/b]
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Remind me why I need to "support" Seth? I'm willing to wager that he has enough $$ to support me, for a number of years.
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Seth plays a part in what shows come to 9:30. We get a lot of shows in such a great venue from bands that play to larger audiences in every other city on tour. He even listens (or pretends to listen) to our "Hey Seth!" thread. Even though this ticket is expensive, I want to make this festival a success, so that it can become a permanent part of our yearly schedule.
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Originally posted by Graace:
Even though this ticket is expensive, I want to make this festival a success, so that it can become a permanent part of our yearly schedule. [/QB]
If you break it down, its 6 bucks a band with an avg set time of an hour. Nobody else will ever say they saw The Who with Daltrey and Pete for that price. The rest of the days lineup is fairly strong as well. Here's hoping it works without any major hitches and gets better with every year. This could be a start of something huge for our area. Kudos to Seth and all involved for bringing it!!!
Edit: If the Who could be convinced to do)The Sell Out release in it's entirety as their set, it could be the crowning achievement of their post Keith careers. One can always dream ya know.
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will seth make enough $? 60000 tix @ $100/ea = $6,000,000. that's not alot of $. think of the overhead. as far as the jewish holiday, what is more important, some god or making $ for seth? i think the bass player for the who died of a cocaine od on the last who tour. they posponed a show or two and got a new bass player fast. they were up and running within a week of the loss.
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here's my advice on the ticket price issue:
what memories are you going to have with you the rest of your life, the concert or whatever else you did with that $100?
now go make me lots of money so I don't have to do shows like Nick Lachey for a living
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Originally posted by nkotb:
This post proves that we are the whiniest, most self-centered bunch of fucks in the world.
Originally posted by fdalawyer:
Originally posted by brennser:
Originally posted by fdalawyer:
It really is quite disappointing that they scheduled such a great concert on one of the most important Jewish holy days. I would have loved to go to the show but unfortunately I can't. Amazing that Seth Hurwitz wouldn't be sensitive to this issue.
give the guy a fucking break - sweet jesus, if its not high ticket prices its a shitty lineup, if its not a shitty lineup its religious insensitivity.....talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't [/b]
I would have been happy to pay the ticket price and I generally like the line up. But I can't go because I have to be in synagogue all day. There are only two major Jewish holidays in the whole year. It wouldn't be too hard to avoid them. [/b]
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It really bothers me that you'd have even the slightest audacity to call anyone in this position "whiny." For fucks sake, even if no one was complaining about the rest of it, they'd have a right to complain about that. Yeah, it's our choice, but Rosh Hashana is one of the two holiest days of the year for Jews - it's the day when people who aren't even JEWISH go to services. It's just an unwritten rule. So imagine having this massive concert that you really wanted to go to held on Easter. Or Christmas. I know it's our choice as to whether we go to services that day or not, but it's just something that I'd really like to point out and suggest for the future not to do again. I understand that bands are under very tight schedules and whatnot.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Yeah, it's our choice, but Rosh Hashana is one of the two holiest days of the year for Jews - it's the day when people who aren't even JEWISH go to services. It's just an unwritten rule. So imagine having this massive concert that you really wanted to go to held on Easter. Or Christmas.
In my experience Christians who say things like, "Easter is a sacred holy day that my family never fails to attend...even if there is a Toby Keith concert" are rabid, bible thumping fundamentalists. They are legion, and are easilly identified by the fish symbols on the back of their minivans. They toe the line to all rabid fundamentalist Christian ideology. There are very few who attend such Easter services with regularity who aren't of this stripe.
Since you attend religious holy days without fail...does it mean you are merely hooked on the riutals of the ceremony, or are you truly buying into the whole Yahweh religious myth, at least a tiny little bit by attending?...and all of the talk about athiesm is just a smokescreen? Are you really such a true believer?!? Enquiring minds want to know.
As a point of fact there's is no historical proof that Jesus/Moses are any more than myths. In fact the only religious figure who provides historical record of His existence is Mohammed. I prefer proof. It's more scientific that way.
I'm a Methodist/Lutheran by birth and an agnostic by choice. I don't celebrate Easter. I wish I could divorce myself totally from Christian ideology, but I'm afraid that it's ingrained too deeply in the collective subconcious. Yes, I do partake in Christmas, but my God of choice for this pagan rite is the God of materialism. Certain people in my family and circle of acquaintances expect to receive gifts from me. It's can be seen as a form of emotional bribery....and is also greasing the wheels at work. Of course I always get my supervisor a little gift. Then later on I might get a little special treatment, less scutt work -for example. But in no way do I actually believe in any of this holy horseshit.
Hellfire, I usually work on most holidays anyway. Memorial Day or George Washington's birthday are possibly the most authentic American holidays. And I work during both. Memorial Day is really labor day as far as I'm concerned.
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Chill out...no...it's just something we do every year
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okay, kewl
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Originally posted by lbcardoni:
From the Baltimore Sun...
"The event falls on Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year, and Pimlico is near Jewish communities in Northwest Baltimore. The director of the city's Office of Neighborhoods is setting up a meeting between the Mount Washington Improvement Association and concert organizers.
A meeting date has not been set, but the president of the association, Mac Nachlas, said he was concerned about public safety, traffic, trash and noise. He said Rosh Hashana is a day of introspection when many people don't drive, and that traffic from the show could be dangerous for pedestrians.
"When Pimlico has concerts, we can hear it quite loudly in our neighborhood," Nachlas said. "Frankly, I'm not sure the Red Hot Chili Peppers are conducive to a day of introspection."
A spokeswoman for Mayor Martin O'Malley said the effect on the neighborhood would be manageable because the event would draw fewer people than the 100,000-plus who attend the Preakness every year."
Concerning the immediate neighborhood, at one time, this would have been true but nowadays, this doesn't wash. From what I know of the neighborhood, and I know it fairly well, I'd have to say that at least half of the Jewish families moved out with the newer families being mostly Black Christians and most don't celebrate any Jewish holidays. The heavier concentration of Jews have moved a little further north and should be minimally impacted. West, south and east is extremely culturally diverse once you extend a little.
Yes, it's a shame that the Virgin Festival falls on a holiday that a portion of the potential fans might celebrate but one can't expect the rest of the world to shut down because one group does. We are a world that (supposedly) coexistes with a multitude of others which will result in even more overlapping of specific cultural holidays. That can't be avoided without major social engineering which would blend the holidays which is a whole other issue. Seth is juggeling an immense amount of factors here that have to all fall into place. That alone is a major chore. Christians would bitch if it fell on Christmas but they would make their personal choices and hope for better luck next time.
While not as sacred, this massive festival which we are damned lucky to even have the opportunity of receiving also falls on the same day as several other musical events that the very same fans most likely would want to attend. Again, personal choices need to be made. That's the breaks.
Regardless of my personal tastes and other obligations, besides hoping that the Virgin Festival is a massive success and hoping that there will be many more at Pimlico in years to come, I'm also very happy for the sake of Pimlico Race Track. The place is a classic and has been going through years of some trouble with the Preakness Stakes threatening to leave town. This would be a great loss to Baltimore on so many levels. I truly hope that this starts to bring in a little more money for them that is then invested back into the place to make it a little nicer so that you snobs who think that it's not nice enough for a rowdy rock concert will have less reason to complain.
For the person who suggested that it should be on a farm in Baltimore County; forget it. It wouldn't work. You think Pimlico will have parking problems. There would be no parking at all on a farm. Harford County would be a much better location for such an idea but then you would bitch because it's maybe 15 or so miles farther. There again, there would be way too many logistics like that to make it that much more difficult.
For the DC area crowd, keep your eyes peeled for On Tap busses. I assume they will have as many as they can fill. In fact, for many of the Baltimore area fans, that would probably make your commute and parking issues even that much easier than ours considering how screwed up our public transportation is.
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
For the DC area crowd, keep your eyes peeled for On Tap busses. I assume they will have as many as they can fill. In fact, for many of the Baltimore area fans, that would probably make your commute and parking issues even that much easier than ours considering how screwed up our public transportation is.
In the works, Jaguar. In the works :)
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If it was presented as "Wow, I'm bummed that this show is on Rosh Hashana, what a gyp that I can't go" that's one thing. But acting like Seth has some moral obligation to pussy-foot around a select audience because of it is ridiculous.
Since this thing was announced, we've had people griping about the line-up (before it was announced), about the location, about the line-up some more (after it was announced), and about the ticket prices. And how people are going to complain that that weekend doesn't work in their favor? Give me a fucking break.
I'm not planning on going to the show, because to me, the cost isn't worth the catchign the few bands that I want to see. But I'm still thankful that Baltimore of all places is getting a one-off music festival. It's no wonder we haven't had more with people's self-important attitudes around here.
Now, bring on Redsock's DAM festival so I can tear that to shreds before knowing fact one about it...
Originally posted by you be betty:
It really bothers me that you'd have even the slightest audacity to call anyone in this position "whiny." For fucks sake, even if no one was complaining about the rest of it, they'd have a right to complain about that. Yeah, it's our choice, but Rosh Hashana is one of the two holiest days of the year for Jews - it's the day when people who aren't even JEWISH go to services. It's just an unwritten rule. So imagine having this massive concert that you really wanted to go to held on Easter. Or Christmas. I know it's our choice as to whether we go to services that day or not, but it's just something that I'd really like to point out and suggest for the future not to do again. I understand that bands are under very tight schedules and whatnot.
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Wow, that's exactly how I feel. I'm bummed that I can't go. I don't expect them to make some massive exception because some people have a holiday to celebrate, because I realize that Seth has a lot to deal with. I wouldn't ever expect someone to do that...the bottom line is, yeah, they have to make choices to please a wide group of people. Understandable. But I made a polite suggestion for next time. The thing bothering me is that you can't be sympathetic to the people that are put in this position, and furthermore, have the mind to go out and call me a snob because I have a religious fucking obligation. I didn't even MENTION a concern for the surrounding neighborhood. It disappoints me that you'd overlook this as just another thing people are being whiny about, because I would say it's a pretty valid concern and future suggestion to make. But then again, that's just me.
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Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by Jaguar:
For the DC area crowd, keep your eyes peeled for On Tap busses. I assume they will have as many as they can fill. In fact, for many of the Baltimore area fans, that would probably make your commute and parking issues even that much easier than ours considering how screwed up our public transportation is.
In the works, Jaguar. In the works :) [/b]
i'd be all over this idea :D going there and back with a group of people and not having to worry about parking,etc coolness...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by Jaguar:
For the DC area crowd, keep your eyes peeled for On Tap busses. I assume they will have as many as they can fill. In fact, for many of the Baltimore area fans, that would probably make your commute and parking issues even that much easier than ours considering how screwed up our public transportation is.
In the works, Jaguar. In the works :) [/b]
i'd be all over this idea :D going there and back with a group of people and not having to worry about parking,etc coolness... [/b]
I'm sure that details for this will be forthcoming. Generally On Tap has a ticket package, which includes a ticket and a spot on the bus. When I know more, I'll share.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Wow, that's exactly how I feel. I'm bummed that I can't go. I don't expect them to make some massive exception because some people have a holiday to celebrate, because I realize that Seth has a lot to deal with. I wouldn't ever expect someone to do that...the bottom line is, yeah, they have to make choices to please a wide group of people. Understandable. But I made a polite suggestion for next time. The thing bothering me is that you can't be sympathetic to the people that are put in this position, and furthermore, have the mind to go out and call me a snob because I have a religious fucking obligation. I didn't even MENTION a concern for the surrounding neighborhood. It disappoints me that you'd overlook this as just another thing people are being whiny about, because I would say it's a pretty valid concern and future suggestion to make. But then again, that's just me.
Betty, calm down. I kind of get the impression that you are getting too emotionally involved and mashing up some of the comments thrown around here and twisting things a bit.
By being called 'snobs', if you are referring to my use of the word, it was not at all placed on any Jewish people or in anyway connected to the Sun Paper article. Go back and reread it. It was meant towards whomever complained so many posts back about Pimlico being trashy, or something like that. Of course, anyone of that mind would probably also bitch if it was taken to some other more upscale place which would then inflate the ticket price even more.
Seth knows what he's doing. Look what he did for Merriweather. Give him some time and let him work his musical magic on Pimlico and he'll have all the Virgins we can handle and we won't even have to die for them. (Now we'll probably have the Muslims bitching! :roll: )
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you guys are all lame.
i have my tickets...bring on the show!!!!
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Originally posted by nkotb:
Now, bring on Redsock's DAM festival so I can tear that to shreds before knowing fact one about it...
Please, let's not do that ok?
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Have no worries; I'm really looking forward to hearing what you've put together!
Originally posted by redsock:
Originally posted by nkotb:
Now, bring on Redsock's DAM festival so I can tear that to shreds before knowing fact one about it...
Please, let's not do that ok? [/b]
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Hey guys...new user here.
I felt this would be a good place to get some info on the fest. I've noticed a lot of ppl saying bands would possibly be playing at the same time. I've never attended a festival and was wondering....would they do that? I mean if I have to miss one band I love just to see the other one I love it would be highly disappointing. If that's the case then my ticket is going on sale.
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They usually have 2 or more stages in a festival, so yeah, expect some of your favorites to play at the same time.
However, some festivals, like Austin City Limits, are smart enough as far as scheduling.
For example, a crap band like Los Lonely Boys is playing at the same time as Thievery Corporation (a good band, IMO).
Originally posted by lack0fsurprise:
Hey guys...new user here.
I felt this would be a good place to get some info on the fest. I've noticed a lot of ppl saying bands would possibly be playing at the same time. I've never attended a festival and was wondering....would they do that? I mean if I have to miss one band I love just to see the other one I love it would be highly disappointing. If that's the case then my ticket is going on sale.
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If Seth does it anything like he did at Merriweather with Curiosa, he had it timed perfectly so that when one band stopped, the next started on the other stage. All of that worked perfectly; however, Pimilco is a bit bigger and I think there are more bands so I would expect some overlap.
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Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Remind me why I need to "support" Seth? I'm willing to wager that he has enough $$ to support me, for a number of years.
I never said you needed to support Seth, I said for ME it's priceless to support him, the local scene, etc. [It's akin to when I proclaim, "that jam band show would have been my nightmare." Not a generic, irrefutable nightmare -- MY nightmare.]
And not Seth personally, as in helping pave his driveway or send his kids through private school, but for his efforts and dedication to bring good music to this area and keep us 'on the map' musically.
Yes, yes, he makes money, but I (and I think a lot of folks) see a passion to his work.
God knows I don't expect that you'd go out of your way to support anyone outside your own home.
Big huge summer festival in BALTIMORE? Come on, that wasn't a no brainer by any stretch...
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Which is a better deal? Virgin Fest, 97.50 for one day, or Osheaga Fest in Montreal $80 Canadian (=$65 American?) for two days?
Considering I have to fly to Montreal, find a place to stay and eat out at restaurants, VF is by FAR the better deal.
And supporting Seth, IMP and the local scene: priceless. [/b]
but what if you lived in Nebraska? [/b]
Well, if you lived in Nebraska, B'more wouldn't be your local scene, now would it. And you wouldn't know who the fuck Seth is, would you? Hmmm, non issue for you in Nebraska.
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
now go make me lots of money so I don't have to do shows like Nick Lachey for a living
Okay, THAT is priceless. Generically.
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You know what, this may be what motivates me to brave the 60,000. What about a forum bus?? (Though I'm not sure how many of us there would be!!!)
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by Jaguar:
For the DC area crowd, keep your eyes peeled for On Tap busses. I assume they will have as many as they can fill. In fact, for many of the Baltimore area fans, that would probably make your commute and parking issues even that much easier than ours considering how screwed up our public transportation is.
In the works, Jaguar. In the works :) [/b]
i'd be all over this idea :D going there and back with a group of people and not having to worry about parking,etc coolness... [/b]
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Originally posted by Bags:
You know what, this may be what motivates me to brave the 60,000. What about a forum bus?? (Though I'm not sure how many of us there would be!!!)
Me: They'd probably give us the short bus ;)
Jag:
going there and back with a group of people and not having to worry about parking,etc coolness...
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I would totally dig this, although I'm coming East on 70.Make for a alot of good stories and a great time on the ride after the show.
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Originally posted by Bags:
You know what, this may be what motivates me to brave the 60,000. What about a forum bus?? (Though I'm not sure how many of us there would be!!!)
Me: They'd probably give us the short bus :)
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damn, Muse just got added to the Toronto show. damnit, i wanted them to play HERE!!!!!!!
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Im just coming in here so if this has been discussed sorry but will there be some sort of idea of what bands are playing at what times and does anyone know it there will be an area up front that is for the first to arrive? I know they do this in Europe and when I saw the Chili Peppers in Vegas they had wrist bands for the first 1000 people or whatever to get up front. Will there be something like this there? In other words should I be there at 10:00 or can I arrive later?? Thanks for any answers.
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
damn, Muse just got added to the Toronto show. damnit, i wanted them to play HERE!!!!!!!
So did Phoenix...
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Referring to a different post- "Lollapalooza Injustice"- will all the listed bands be performing on one stage? Or do we have pick and choose between two different stages? My hopes are that we do not have to choose between two different stages provided the gates open at 10pm.
Thoughts???
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you're gonna have to wait til the schedule is up...i am guessing there will be some overlap...
Originally posted by jardison:
Referring to a different post- "Lollapalooza Injustice"- will all the listed bands be performing on one stage? Or do we have pick and choose between two different stages? My hopes are that we do not have to choose between two different stages provided the gates open at 10pm.
Thoughts???
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Originally posted by corporal clegg:
damn, Muse just got added to the Toronto show. damnit, i wanted them to play HERE!!!!!!!
And the rumours are rampant about Radiohead being added to the bill. Given that the Toronto VFest doesn't have an international band with the stature of RHCP or The Who, it's quite possible that another big band is going to be added to the bill.
I'm just worried that Toronto's Olympic Island won't be big enough to contain Matt Bellamy's massive ego. :)
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Yes, every group contains noble souls and assholes??even Mexicans. But almost by definition, groups are assholes. The more one identifies with a group, the less likely they are to be interesting as individuals.
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
I think I am beginning to understand. Jews attend these Holiday thingies not because they are devoutly religious, in point of fact many are self-professed athiests who claim to be into "Eastern Relgions". They attend because they are afraid that if they don't go to these holiday services then they will become totally assimilated into American society...and lose their Jewish identity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll) [/b]
If someone is insecure ?? and hence feels the need for external recognition/validation ?? (read: Hoya) they will invest in a group. Within the protecting structure of a group, the ??asshole? in people is able to emerge, without the risk of recrimination. Each collective may have a mouthpiece for the group, but it is unlikely they are saying too much that anyone in the group doesn??t agree with. Besides, individuals that no longer wish to be associated with the group can always leave.
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Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by Weird Little Self Loathing Man:
Remind me why I need to "support" Seth? I'm willing to wager that he has enough $$ to support me, for a number of years.
I never said you needed to support Seth, I said for ME it's priceless to support him, the local scene, etc. [It's akin to when I proclaim, "that jam band show would have been my nightmare." Not a generic, irrefutable nightmare -- MY nightmare.]
And not Seth personally, as in helping pave his driveway or send his kids through private school, but for his efforts and dedication to bring good music to this area and keep us 'on the map' musically.
Yes, yes, he makes money, but I (and I think a lot of folks) see a passion to his work.
God knows I don't expect that you'd go out of your way to support anyone outside your own home.
Big huge summer festival in BALTIMORE? Come on, that wasn't a no brainer by any stretch... [/b]
<img src="http://images.cafepress.com/product/15108005_240x240_F.jpg" alt=" - " />
buy yours at cafepress.com (support whoever designed the line. i'm fairly confident it wasn't seth).
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Any word if On Tap has a bus trip setup for this festival yet?
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Any word if On Tap has a bus trip setup for this festival yet?
Already set up for ordering (http://shopnow.secureonlinecart.com/store/?setstore=1012&store_id=1012)....bus only.
Callat703, I'm going to start requesting a finder's fee or a commission soon! :p
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Any word if On Tap has a bus trip setup for this festival yet?
Already set up for ordering (http://shopnow.secureonlinecart.com/store/?setstore=1012&store_id=1012)....bus only.
Callat703, I'm going to start requesting a finder's fee or a commission soon! :p [/b]
What exactly does "pre-show party and luxury round-trip transportation" entail?
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Originally posted by PigIron:
Originally posted by Jaguar:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Any word if On Tap has a bus trip setup for this festival yet?
Already set up for ordering (http://shopnow.secureonlinecart.com/store/?setstore=1012&store_id=1012)....bus only.
Callat703, I'm going to start requesting a finder's fee or a commission soon! :p [/b]
What exactly does "pre-show party and luxury round-trip transportation" entail? [/b]
Oops, just posted this as a new thread. My bad.
The transportation is a rented bus, generally a nicer, luxury bus with a bathroom and everything. On Tap gets liquor licenses for the busses, so you can drink on the bus - BYOB. The pre-show party is generally set up at a bar...but I have no idea what it will be since it is so early in the morning.
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continental breakfast with available bloody marys, i would think :)