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Title: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on April 12, 2009, 07:40:34 pm
So we did this last year.  Anyone up for it this time?

Round 1:
EAST
1] Boston *** Wins series 4-0
8] Montreal

2] Washington *** Wins series 4-3
7] Rangers

3] New Jersey
6] Carolina *** Wins series 4-3

4] Pittsburgh *** Wins series 4-2
5] Philadelphia


WEST
1] San Jose
8] Anaheim *** Wins series 4-2

2] Detroit *** Wins series 4-0
7] Columbus

3] Vancouver *** Wins series 4-0
6] St Louis

4] Chicago *** Wins series 4-2
5] Calgary

Pick your winners and number of games each series will go.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 13, 2009, 08:59:13 am
well, i am just trying to wrap my head around the awesomeness that i watched Verizon Center over the weekend....but i'll go first.

   I dont like to pick series length really but i'll try
 
  Boston wins in 5
  Washington wins in 7
  Carolina wins in 7
  Pittsburgh wins in 6

  San Jose wins in 7
  Detroit wins in 5
  Vancouver wins in 6
  Chicago sweeps Calgary (i have to pick one sweep, right?)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on April 13, 2009, 09:07:39 am
Here is my spin...

Boston (6)
Washington (6)
New Jersey (6)
Philadelphia (7)


San Jose (5)
Detroit (6)
Vancouver (7)
Chicago (5)


I wish I had been in DC for the Frozen Four.  I filled out the ticket application way back when but was not selected.  That championship game was amazing on TV.  I can only imagine what it was like in person.  Down 2 goals with 1 minute to go and you end up winning the game in overtime.  Then the game ends on a typical oddball overtime goal.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xcanuck on April 13, 2009, 09:19:19 am
I won't try to pick series length - it's tough enough to pick the winner.

Boston
Washington
Carolina
Pittsburgh

San Jose
Detroit
Vancouver
Chicago

Frozen Four was awesome. I should have though to check here if anyone wanted tickets. We had an extra pair. The atmosphere was incredible. We have friends who work in college hockey so we got invited to some of the parties, which were a lot of fun too. We've already bought our tickets for next year at Ford Field (you were pretty much guaranteed tickets if you placed your order before the March deadline).

I still don't think the FF is anything close to the IIHF WJCs but it's still incredible fun and insanity.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: bellenseb on April 13, 2009, 09:43:50 am
I'm rooting for Columbus, because it's their first time ever in the playoffs, and it's Columbus! They don't have any other teams!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 13, 2009, 10:04:08 am
I'm rooting for Columbus, because it's their first time ever in the playoffs, and it's Columbus! They don't have any other teams!

and they're playing the Red Wings!

 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 13, 2009, 10:05:54 am
I won't try to pick series length - it's tough enough to pick the winner.

Boston
Washington
Carolina
Pittsburgh

San Jose
Detroit
Vancouver
Chicago

Frozen Four was awesome. I should have though to check here if anyone wanted tickets. We had an extra pair. The atmosphere was incredible. We have friends who work in college hockey so we got invited to some of the parties, which were a lot of fun too. We've already bought our tickets for next year at Ford Field (you were pretty much guaranteed tickets if you placed your order before the March deadline).

I still don't think the FF is anything close to the IIHF WJCs but it's still incredible fun and insanity.

 we were stuck with a lot of Miami fans in section 429. needless to say, they were mad at us (rooting for BU) at the end. lets hope another Boston team can win a championship this spring!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 13, 2009, 12:23:22 pm
Boston in 5
Caps in 6
Jersey in 6
Philly in 7

San Jose in 5
Detroit in 4
Vancouver in 6
Calgary in 7
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: BookerT on April 13, 2009, 12:37:52 pm
red wings sweep the caps in the finals, just like in '98. not sure how it'll get to that point.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 13, 2009, 01:02:22 pm
Boston in 5

Washington in 7

New Jersey in 6

Philadelphia in 7

San Jose sweeps

Detroit in 5

Vancouver in 7

Calgary in 6

oh yeah: GO TERRIERS!!!

(http://internet128.com/images/rhett-bu-mascot-posing.jpg)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 13, 2009, 01:04:57 pm
no love for the Blackhawks?  they destroyed Calgary all season long!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 13, 2009, 01:38:08 pm
boston in 5
rangers in 7
jersey in 6
pens sweep

sharks sweep
wings in 5
van in 6
hawks in 7
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 13, 2009, 02:10:10 pm
Boston - 6
Rangers - 6
Jersey - 5
Flyers - 7

Sharks sweep
Detroit - 5
Vancouver - 5
Hawks - 5

Im predicting a super dominant western conference with easy wins for the teams. If the Hawks somehow won the cup, Id be ecstatic. Now let me just hope the Rangers can take out the Caps!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Venerable Bede on April 13, 2009, 04:01:08 pm
I'm rooting for Columbus, because it's their first time ever in the playoffs, and it's Columbus! They don't have any other teams!
sure they do, they have THE ohio state university. . .
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 13, 2009, 04:14:33 pm
and mls champion columbus crew
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 13, 2009, 04:17:36 pm
and mls champion columbus crew

this is a hockey thread - let's keep rowing out of it!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Jesse on April 13, 2009, 04:19:27 pm
Boston in 4
Caps in 5
Carolina in 7
Pens in 6

Sharks in 4
Wings in 6
Canucks in 7
Hawks in 5
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 13, 2009, 04:23:47 pm
and mls champion columbus crew

this is a hockey thread - let's keep rowing out of it!
i didnt bring other sports in
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on April 14, 2009, 09:13:29 am
Frozen Four was awesome. I should have though to check here if anyone wanted tickets. We had an extra pair. The atmosphere was incredible. We have friends who work in college hockey so we got invited to some of the parties, which were a lot of fun too. We've already bought our tickets for next year at Ford Field (you were pretty much guaranteed tickets if you placed your order before the March deadline).

I still don't think the FF is anything close to the IIHF WJCs but it's still incredible fun and insanity.

The bean pot might be a cool thing to see as well.  I damn near drove to DC for the Championship game and just hung out until people out side were dumping tickets.  It always happens but I was beat from hitting a show the night before and not getting home until after 4:00 AM.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 14, 2009, 09:46:37 am
Did Adirondack make the playoffs this year?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 14, 2009, 09:55:21 am
 ::)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xcanuck on April 14, 2009, 10:18:45 am
The bean pot might be a cool thing to see as well.  I damn near drove to DC for the Championship game and just hung out until people out side were dumping tickets.  It always happens but I was beat from hitting a show the night before and not getting home until after 4:00 AM.
It was easy to get tickets. There were lots of people selling out front before the game. 400 level could be bought for below face value.

I wonder what the market is going to be like for Caps tickets. I'm still amazed at the upswing in demand. Are there really that many hockey fans? Or (more likely) is it just people jumping on a bandwagon when the rest of the DC area teams aren't doing well?

We got tickets for the first two games from friends. Should be a blast! I'm looking forward to Ovie putting Avery through the glass.  ;D
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 14, 2009, 10:26:29 am
they had a ton of sellouts this year in the regular season
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Driveway on April 14, 2009, 11:16:11 am
EAST
Boston
Washington
Carolina
Philadelphia


WEST
San Jose
Columbus
St Louis
Chicago

I know it's a pipe dream, but I'd love to see Columbus and Caps in the final round...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2009, 09:57:54 am
how 'bout them devils?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 16, 2009, 10:02:26 am
how 'bout them devils?


   how 'bout them rangers!

  I  have decided that I like the Capitals less than the Yankees.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 16, 2009, 10:44:58 am
didnt you have season tickets at one point?

good game 1, but i dont expect the flyers to be as poor as they were last night all series
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 16, 2009, 11:25:56 am
im loving the rangers right now (even more so than usual). my co-worker is a huge caps fan, so he has not been happy at work today. I need both the devils and rangers to keep winning as i found an in to get some play offs tickets. Working for Mario Batali has so many advantages im learning (not me, a friend).

how 'bout them devils?


   how 'bout them rangers!

  I  have decided that I like the Capitals less than the Yankees.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 16, 2009, 11:39:10 am
didnt you have season tickets at one point?



  I had season tickets for 3 years. We bought them to secure Playoff tickets in 2003. Once the Caps choked in the Tampa series, we watched as they wore ugly jerseys, unloaded all of their talent, played like shit and refused to get rid of their old crappy goaltender.

   When Ovechkin came, it was a great first year to watch. He's amazing and sometimes it almost seemed like people would cheer for the team.  Attendance was horrible and I couldnt even GIVE my tickets away on nights i couldn't use them.

    So I decide not to renew them in 2007-2008 and what happens?   New jerseys.....no more Kolzig....playoff series......sold out buildings.....I want 3 years of my life back.  fuckers.

     I hope they never win a playoff series and they have to trade Ovechkin to the Red Wings one day!

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 16, 2009, 11:54:12 am
yeah i remember going to some sparsely attended games as late as early last season. this year i wanted to get tickets for the pens and got shut out

i do think its kind of funny how caps fans seemed to cry about all the hype that crosby got, but now its all ovie talk all the time
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 16, 2009, 12:32:35 pm
i do think its kind of funny how caps fans seemed to cry about all the hype that crosby got, but now its all ovie talk all the time

 they are good at crying!  without fail every game i went to people aruond me would boo the linemen on offsides calls.  people in the 400 section. I have been to hockey games in Pittsburgh, Boston, NJ, Phoenix, Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto and Chicago and i have never heard anyone once question the offsides call in the upper deck.

  ovechkin is better than crosby, though.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 16, 2009, 12:47:30 pm
crosby's better, nah ovie, wait malkins better than both
zzzzzzzzzz
theyre all under 24 and none have hoisted the cup. talk to me in 5-10 years
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 16, 2009, 12:48:43 pm
ovechkin isnt going to be hoisting any cup, not with Washington.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 16, 2009, 12:52:29 pm
i'm cant believe i'm going to say this, but thats a lot of caps hate
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on April 16, 2009, 07:25:05 pm
Alex has skills but is a total douche and has no respect for the game.  Sooner or later someone will cocl his ass and I will be the one standing up cheering the loudest when he gets what is coming to him.  He is a total clown.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2009, 10:10:54 pm
I HAZ A HAPPY: just discovered that my hotel has Versus!!!

:D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D       :D       ;D

so i hit up the concierge lounge for a bottle of wine, some cheese and crackers, and i'm in the middle of tonight's triple-header.  the jackets have their work cut out for them, they need a new plan on offense 'cause they got nowhere tonight (even on PPs).  at times it looked like they couldn't be bothered trying. 

so far the second period of flames-hawks is kinda meh but i'm enjoying it disproportionately, because i wasn't expecting to be watching ANY hockey tonight. 

damn bruins.

looking forward to sharks-ducks but i doubt i'll be able to stick out the whole game.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 16, 2009, 10:54:47 pm


damn bruins.


 get used to it. and i know you couldnt see that game on vs. but check some highlights sometime. Kessel but the empty net goal in a Lapierrere comes over and decks him and starts a big fight.  Then as time expire, Kostapolous picks another fight with Yelle.   not very sportsmanlike and i hope the B's dont let it get under their skin.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2009, 11:46:33 pm
vs had plenty of coverage of the end-of-game and after-game shenanigans.  not pretty at all.  i like a good scuffle/excessive roughness as much as the next hockey fan, but that was just stoopid.  nothing was achieved there other than a suspension or two.  pointless.  now the habs are going to be down at least one player, and for what?

sharks lacking the luster i assumed they'd bring to the game, but game is still tied.  dammit.  must to go to beeeeed.... muuuuust...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 17, 2009, 10:53:31 am
San Jose doubles up an opponent in shots, runs into a hot goalie, and Thornton and other "stars" come up minuscule in a loss to an inferior opponent... must be playoff time.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 17, 2009, 11:05:42 am
San Jose doubles up an opponent in shots, runs into a hot goalie, and Thornton and other "stars" come up minuscule in a loss to an inferior opponent... must be playoff time.


big joe has always been tiny come springtime!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 17, 2009, 11:20:45 am
big joe has always been tiny come springtime!
I know! I think his first shot on goal was like 56 minutes into the game. Marleau is doing his disappearing act too.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 17, 2009, 11:26:04 am
big joe has always been tiny come springtime!
I know! I think his first shot on goal was like 56 minutes into the game. Marleau is doing his disappearing act too.

  this is exactly why i was not concerned with winning the president's cup. San Jose won't make it to the Cup Finals and Boston gets home ice over anyone else.   I'll see you in June, Julian!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 17, 2009, 11:33:05 am
I'll see you in June, Julian!
Yeah, Bos/Det was my prediction too. NJ might be the biggest obstacle for either team.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 17, 2009, 12:26:30 pm
Sharks in 4
San Jose sweeps
sharks sweep
Sharks sweep

Fuck you.

Now Anaheim will lose four straight.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 17, 2009, 12:33:15 pm
DAYUM!

(i had SJ winning in 7...why anyone would think the Ducks are an easy out....)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 17, 2009, 12:35:01 pm
to be fair, i picked sharks sweep only to upset you because you picked philly
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 17, 2009, 12:36:31 pm
I got to watch the game last night with a bunch of Sharks Fans (the joys of living away from where one grew up), so I'm extra fired up now.

And I agree.  This is still a tough Ducks team, and if they can minimize the mistakes, they're going to be tough in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 17, 2009, 12:37:48 pm
to be fair, i picked sharks sweep only to upset you because you picked philly

In seven!

With any luck we'll both be wrong.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 17, 2009, 12:49:23 pm
if i would have picked the sharks in 7 it wouldnt have stung

but yes, hopefully we will both be wrong
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 17, 2009, 12:51:47 pm
I didn't want the Ducks in the first round. I still think Detroit would've won that series (and would if it was the second round series too), but San Jose is a completely different set of head cases.

Someone on hockeybuzz (a SJ blogger, in fact) had the best stat line I ever saw. He took all the playoff teams and posted their winning precentage against the other playoff teams. The elite teams everyone's been picking to win the Cup (Boston, Detroit, Jersey) were all in the mid 50s. Washington I think was at 60%. San Jose... 35%. As he put it, as long as the NHL refuses to allow non-playoff teams into the playoffs, it'll be the same result for the Sharks.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 17, 2009, 12:55:51 pm
Quote
Why the Sharks Will Fail Again: They Can't Beat Playoff Teams

Ironically, the NHL playoffs have always had one characteristic that keeps the Sharks from finding postseason success: It contains playoff teams. Despite impressive records, scoring titles or broken records, the Sharks have consistently come up short against playoff teams, both in the regular season and postseason. I thought that disturbing trend would change this season, more because of the law of averages than anything San Jose did during the offseason. Unfortunately, I was wrong.

The Sharks are still beating up on non-playoff teams, using the weak and weary to pad their statistics and inflate their record, but they continue to fall short against the league's best, even though they stand among them. The league still isn't allowing non-playoff teams to take part in the playoffs, putting the Sharks at a major disadvantage each spring.

Just look at the numbers. Using the current standings, the Sharks have played 20 games against playoff teams since January 1. They have only won 7 of those 20 games; a woeful 35 percent. However, in 21 games against non-playoff teams over that stretch, the Sharks have won 16 games, an impressive 76 percent.

San Jose Sharks
Playoff: 7-9-4 - 35%
Non-playoff: 16-3-2 - 76%

Of course it's natural for strong teams to have a better record against their weaker opponents, but the Sharks take it to the extreme. Comparing the Sharks to six other teams near the top of the league, you'll find that San Jose has the lowest winning percentage against playoff teams but the highest winning percentage against non-playoff teams.

Boston Bruins
Playoff: 13-7-4 - 54%
Non-playoff: 10-5-2 - 58%

Calgary Flames
Playoff: 10-8-2 - 50%
Non-playoff: 12-9 - 57%

Detroit Red Wings
Playoff: 10-7-2 - 52%
Non-playoff: 16-5-2 - 69%

New Jersey Devils
Playoff: 14-9-1 - 58%
Non-playoff: 14-5 - 73%

Vancouver Canucks
Playoff: 8-4-4 - 50%
Non-playoff: 14-7-3 - 58%

Washington Capitals
Playoff: 12-5-3 - 60%
Non-playoff: 11-7-2 - 55%

Winning Percentage vs. Playoff Teams
Washington 60%
New Jersey 58%
Boston 54%
Detroit 52%
Calgary 50%
Vancouver 50%
San Jose 35%

Winning Percentage vs. Non-Playoff Teams
San Jose 76%
New Jersey 73%
Detroit 69%
Boston 58%
Vancouver 58%
Calgary 57%
Washington 55%

On April 15 the Sharks won't have Phoenix, Edmonton, Los Angeles, Dallas, Colorado or Minnesota to kick around. Instead, they'll face legitimate teams that are talented, well coached and well prepared, and winning 35 percent of the games won't take them very far. I don't mean to say that the Sharks can't win, but recent history has indicated that they won't, and the numbers continue to back up that assumption.

The Sharks held a team meeting the day after their 4-3 loss to Phoenix on March 17, and have turned things around since then, picking up points in six of their last eight games. Or have they? In fact, the Sharks are 4-0 against non-playoff teams since that meeting. Against playoff teams, they're 2-2-1. That's not great, but a 40 percent winning percentage is better than 35.

San Jose's main problem continues to be work ethic. It's easy to defeat the weak teams on skill alone, outskating and outshooting without much effort, but when the Sharks are pushed over a best-of-seven series they crack and crumble like a Ritz cracker. There might be a new bench boss calling the shots, and he might have some tricks up his sleeve to stave off another playoff collapse, but he can't put Mike Grier's heart in Joe Thornton's body, and can't prevent Patrick Marleau's offense from another second-round disappearing act.

Doug Wilson has done a phenomenal job filling holes and adding depth, covering up for the natural complacency of his elite players. However, his best need to be at their best against the league's best, and until we see it how can we believe they're capable of it? I don't care how many times Thornton proclaims that the Sharks are the best team in the league. Until he's the best player on the ice in a meaningful game that will continue to be an empty statement.

Maybe at the next general managers' meetings Doug Wilson should ask the league to implement college football's current system, ranking teams after the regular season and allowing them to play in a single championship game rather than a playoff format. That way, the Sharks would contend each season without worrying about those second-round upsets. Besides, the Sharks would have a much better chance of winning a single game rather than a best-of-seven series. I'd put it right around 35 percent.

ryan.garner@hockeybuzz.com
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on April 18, 2009, 03:44:41 pm
GO RANGERS!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 18, 2009, 03:46:55 pm
GO RANGERS!

lets hope the momentum continues at the garden. im hoping i can get to either game 3 or 4. Lundquist is looking great!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Staralfur25 on April 18, 2009, 03:54:06 pm
Pittsburghs going to win it all.    :D
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 18, 2009, 05:52:37 pm
Pittsburghs going to win it all.    :D
Weren't nearly good enough to do it last season, and not nearly as good this season as last, while the real contenders have improved. So, no.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 19, 2009, 10:51:15 am
 i am loving the playoffs so far.  Julian, the Bruins looked Red Wing-esque last night.

 Zero penalty killing minutes (til the last 4 minutes of the game) and 3-5 on the power play.

   
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 19, 2009, 11:59:10 am
i am loving the playoffs so far.  Julian, the Bruins looked Red Wing-esque last night.
I watched much of that game as well. The Bruins are definitely the team I'm most afraid of. I still think if Osgood plays as well as he has so far in the playoffs and the defense in front of him plays like they have been, the Wings will beat all comers, but if the Wings slip alittle, Boston can definitely beat them.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 20, 2009, 09:11:30 am
LOL @ San Jose.

Detroit v Anaheim might be the de facto western finals. Vancouver and Chicago don't look like they could hang with either.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 20, 2009, 10:20:49 am
LOL @ San Jose.

Detroit v Anaheim might be the de facto western finals. Vancouver and Chicago don't look like they could hang with either.

I think Chicago could surprise someone.  they are just that young and unpredictable.

 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on April 20, 2009, 04:28:13 pm
Again Obitchkin shows no class.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 20, 2009, 04:50:49 pm
what happened? do tell!


edit: are you talking about Ovie watching the Rangers morning skate? 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 21, 2009, 07:55:38 am
Bruins up 3-0 and i dont suppose they're about to lose one anytime soon. I now expect a sweep. Which will give them some rest.

with any luck, Julian, Smackie and I will all be sitting in the 3-0 catbird seat by the end of the night, eh?

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 21, 2009, 11:43:20 am
Aside from Varlamov looking phenominal, if the Caps keep doing what they did last night: Crashing the net, passing the puck, cleaning up shots in the goalmouth, keeping Lundquist off balance, OV playing a supporting role, the Rangers don't have a prayer.

Also helps to have that fucking jerkoff Avery destroy his team. RACK THAT. Although Erskine should have put him in a headlock and ripped his fucking dome off the moment he turned around to confront Varlamov and the puck was on the other end of the ice. It's 4-0. SACK THE FUCK UP AND RIP HIS HEAD OFF!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 21, 2009, 12:21:45 pm
with any luck, Julian, Smackie and I will all be sitting in the 3-0 catbird seat by the end of the night, eh?

I'm not exactly jumping to pick the Ducks in the Streak tonight, but I am surprised that 93% of the people have picked the Sharks.  Maybe they haven't been watching the same series I've been watching because the Sharks look completely baffled right now.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 21, 2009, 12:26:27 pm
with any luck, Julian, Smackie and I will all be sitting in the 3-0 catbird seat by the end of the night, eh?

I'm not exactly jumping to pick the Ducks in the Streak tonight, but I am surprised that 93% of the people have picked the Sharks.  Maybe they haven't been watching the same series I've been watching because the Sharks look completely baffled right now.

   People dont watch hockey anymore, remember?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on April 21, 2009, 01:36:19 pm
Also helps to have that fucking jerkoff Avery destroy his team.

(http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/averyvarly.jpg)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 21, 2009, 06:00:43 pm
with any luck, Julian, Smackie and I will all be sitting in the 3-0 catbird seat by the end of the night, eh?

I'm not exactly jumping to pick the Ducks in the Streak tonight, but I am surprised that 93% of the people have picked the Sharks.  Maybe they haven't been watching the same series I've been watching because the Sharks look completely baffled right now.
I think SJ will win tonite. I don't see them going out in 4. Then, after winning game 3, they'll exhale and go back to being the Sharks and Anaheim will head back to SJ up 3-1.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: IcePrincess on April 21, 2009, 06:19:57 pm
Aside from Varlamov looking phenominal, if the Caps keep doing what they did last night: Crashing the net, passing the puck, cleaning up shots in the goalmouth, keeping Lundquist off balance, OV playing a supporting role, the Rangers don't have a prayer.

Also helps to have that fucking jerkoff Avery destroy his team. RACK THAT. Although Erskine should have put him in a headlock and ripped his fucking dome off the moment he turned around to confront Varlamov and the puck was on the other end of the ice. It's 4-0. SACK THE FUCK UP AND RIP HIS HEAD OFF!!!!!!!


I couldn't agree more...Well said!!!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 22, 2009, 10:24:49 am
  Well, so much for the Blues. And hopefully the Habs too, tonight.

   Its funny how on Monday, the Capitals faced a must win situation and now it seems the NY Rangers are facing one now.  I realize the Caps can only tie the series tonight but, in reality, they are the better team and you can't give them momentum going home like that.  I say whoever wins tonight, takes the series.

   and Montreal is booing the Star Spangled Banner again. how does this make it into the news every single year!

  its only a matter of time til they start booing O Canada too.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 22, 2009, 10:28:17 am
fleury was great last night
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 22, 2009, 11:07:01 am
fleury was great last night

  i know man. I was never too scared of Pitt cause of their crappy goalie.  Lets hope its just one game.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 22, 2009, 11:22:48 am
fleury had a mediocre regular season, but the whole team did to be honest. i'm not sure what to expect this year out of the playoffs, so i am just enjoying the ride

but he was awesome in the playoffs last year. if anything scares me its the penalty kill. and letang taking penalties in the first 30 seconds of power plays
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 22, 2009, 12:56:59 pm
The Sharks last power play goal robbed us of Free Hockey.  We deserved OT.  That hooking call was all stick, no body.

Either way, the Sharks deserved the victory, but I wanted Free Hockey.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 22, 2009, 10:32:18 pm
Oh how sweet it is! 3-1 Baby! 1 More to go! LETS GO RANGERS!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 22, 2009, 11:26:38 pm
Oh how sweet it is! 3-1 Baby! 1 More to go! LETS GO RANGERS!


(http://theryancokeexperience.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/chara2.jpg)
We'll be waiting.....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 23, 2009, 09:27:58 am
Apparantly the Caps aren't playing playoff hockey anymore. No one screening Lundquist and no one crashing the net. If I see one more shot from the top of the circles/high slot (*cough* OV *cough*) I'm going to blow a fucking fuse. Dear Mike Green: If you get the puck at the point and have a wide open tunnel towards the net, SKATE TOWARDS THE FUCKING NET!

Someone please take a run at Lundquist, too. Dude plays without fear of anyone coming with in a hemisphere of his crease.

I'm beside myself right now.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 23, 2009, 10:19:35 am

Someone please take a run at Lundquist, too. Dude plays without fear of anyone coming with in a hemisphere of his crease.

I'm beside myself right now.

  i wouldnt mind! considering my Bruins play him next. haha.  To be honest, it makes me mad cause Vs. blacks out the games for me, despite living in Baltimore and being unable to get them any other way.  So i cant really comment on the series.  nor can i feel comfortable with knowing if the Rangers are really playing that well, or if the Caps are just pulling a Sharks.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2009, 10:28:49 am
you dont get comcast sports net?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 23, 2009, 12:02:48 pm
you dont get comcast sports net?

well, i have Dish Network and in baltimore, i  get my RSN which is MASN, not CSN-MA. i could pay extra for it, but i found it was still blacking games out (and its not worth the $5.99 a month extra). Even with Center Ice, it blacks out all Capitals games. 

 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 23, 2009, 12:05:00 pm
My perception of CSN has taken a serious dive with this playoff series. I noticed how the broadcasts are very low quality (lights look dim, colors and definition aren't as crisp) while the highlights on Versus are almost hi-def crystal clear. Very disappointing. Like almost watching a MASN broadcast. I'll take what I can get, but it pisses me off that Versus is blacked out and has a much better quality video broadcast.

What do I care? The Caps won't be playing after Sunday anyway.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2009, 12:15:40 pm
versus does have a better picture than csn

those masn nats commercials crack me up "remember that time we knocked the mets out of first!!!" jesus

its kind of weird that they wont give you csn-dc for free and black it out at the same time, though
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 23, 2009, 12:20:25 pm
its kind of weird that they wont give you csn-dc for free and black it out at the same time, though

When have the cable monopolies and regulations ever made since in the first place?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 23, 2009, 12:21:49 pm
versus does have a better picture than csn

The thing is that CSN Chicago doesn't do the same thing. Maybe it's because it is 25% owned by the Cubs and has that money invested in the product, the picture is always good (even for the White Sox and Blackhawks) and you never get an inferior broadcast. I used to think the same for CSN DC but obviously I was off base.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2009, 12:31:22 pm
its kind of weird that they wont give you csn-dc for free and black it out at the same time, though

When have the cable monopolies and regulations ever made since in the first place?
he has a dish
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 23, 2009, 12:39:31 pm

its kind of weird that they wont give you csn-dc for free and black it out at the same time, though

one more reason to hate the caps!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 23, 2009, 01:39:31 pm
its kind of weird that they wont give you csn-dc for free and black it out at the same time, though

When have the cable monopolies and regulations ever made since in the first place?
he has a dish

I meant cable/sattellite together in general. Both have extremely screwed up rules and regulations.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2009, 02:43:49 pm
When have the cable monopolies and regulations ever made since in the first place?

I think you meant to say: This is why cable companies should not be allowed to own television networks.

Comcast Baltimore has MASN and Comcast Sports Net and does not black out Capitals games, nor does DirecTV. 

Dish Network refuses to pay Comcast for the rights to broadcast the Capitals (and probably the Nats) outside of the DC local area (notice I didn't say mid-Atlantic region) because they think Comcast is asking too much.  They're probably right, but only the customer suffers - that's why DirecTV paid up.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 23, 2009, 03:34:14 pm
When have the cable monopolies and regulations ever made since in the first place?

I think you meant to say: This is why cable companies should not be allowed to own television networks.

Comcast Baltimore has MASN and Comcast Sports Net and does not black out Capitals games, nor does DirecTV. 

Dish Network refuses to pay Comcast for the rights to broadcast the Capitals (and probably the Nats) outside of the DC local area (notice I didn't say mid-Atlantic region) because they think Comcast is asking too much.  They're probably right, but only the customer suffers - that's why DirecTV paid up.

  which is why i have been tempted to switch to Directv, that and MLB extra innings.

but, alas, I am grandfathered into a plan that gives me 40 HD channels for $29.99 a month and the fact that DirecTV does not offer both home and away feeds for hockey games has me staying for now.  Its super nice to be able to watch my Bruins only on NESN and never have to hear some other teams homer announcers bashing my boys!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 24, 2009, 09:50:37 am
Another Wings victory, another San Jose gutless, cowardly performance.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on April 26, 2009, 10:50:46 am
Speaking of cowardly performances....

Torts suspended for Game 6  (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/rangers/2009/04/25/2009-04-25_rangers_coach_john_tortorella_suspended_for_game_6_against_capitals.html)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 26, 2009, 10:59:17 pm
Speaking of cowardly performances....

Torts suspended for Game 6  (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/rangers/2009/04/25/2009-04-25_rangers_coach_john_tortorella_suspended_for_game_6_against_capitals.html)

a different view of the same events: NHL adds security, won't discipline Washington Capitals for flap (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2009/news?id=4103702).  sure, you'd hope that an NHL coach would keep his cool in the heat of battle... but you'd also expect that security would deal with unruly fans.

if i could get some decent tix for game 7, i'd consider calling in sick and hoping the first thing down to DC.  should be a riot (hopefully not literally).
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 26, 2009, 11:11:45 pm
Let me keep this in my personal memory next time someone whips out the old "Red Sox fans are such assholes" card.

Torts should have beaten that dude with a hockey stick.

I didnt think sticking with Varlamov was a good idea really, but it seems to be paying off.  Honestly, though, i think Kolzig could be the Rangers the way they're playing now. Looks like i could be headed for more blacked out games on Vs.!  :(  (and worse yet, 2nd round matchup with the Pens)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on April 27, 2009, 08:19:00 am
just got my game 7 tickets, really psyched!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Mobius on April 27, 2009, 08:32:42 am
Strange turn of events.  The Rangers were the tougher team for the first 4 games and now they're reduced to tattling to the league b/c Caps fans called them names??  Pathetic.  I think yesterdays game was a sideffect of the Hockeygods puking in their Molsons and hopefully the Caps can keep up the momentum, take these clowns out . . .and maybe someone can be a hero and beatdown Sean Avery?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on April 27, 2009, 10:52:18 am
Let me keep this in my personal memory next time someone whips out the old "Red Sox fans are such assholes" card.

Torts should have beaten that dude with a hockey stick.

Please.  Go to a game at MSG.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 27, 2009, 11:11:52 am
Anybody remember the Homicide episode where the guy gets pushed onto the subway tracks as the train is arriving?  We're making our way through Homicide on dvd, and watched that one Thursday night.

Then I had the rare occasion to ride Metro Friday afternoon, and lo and behold there were grown men standing around in hockey jerseys.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 27, 2009, 11:27:04 am
Yes, they were more than likely going to a hockey game.

Look for the Rangers to go to Valiquette on Tuesday. Might as well. Lundquist's glove hand has been absolutely exposed. I honestly think the guy is hurt. He has completely imploded.

I originally hit "reply" to post about Joe Thornton, the most overrated player in the history of hockey. God that dude is pathetic.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 27, 2009, 11:53:09 am
ok - i seriously hope this isnt true or people are just f-ed up.

Brandon Dubinsky required a tetanus shot because he was bit by Caps defenseman Shaone Morrisonn during a skirmish with 4:57 to play in the second period. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=418788&navid=DL|NHL|Home

and im headed to the devils game tomorrow night! so cant wait! would rather have seen the rangers, but since that didnt work out, any playoff hockey is guaranteed to be a good time.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 27, 2009, 12:08:48 pm
Let me keep this in my personal memory next time someone whips out the old "Red Sox fans are such assholes" card.

Torts should have beaten that dude with a hockey stick.

Please.  Go to a game at MSG.

I  have been to MSG and i quite enjoyed my experience there. I was even rooting for Boston.  no one was shouting homophobic comments.  in fact, the only time i've ever heard anything other than "Jeter's gay" is at a Raven's game. 

 besides, I wasnt saying that NY fans (or any other fans for that matter) were better than Caps fans, my point was only that every sports team has a group of assholes and i honestly think its a matter of experience, nothing statistical that makes some better than others. (except for Notre Dame fans, those people are down right friendly)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 27, 2009, 12:22:51 pm
you had me up until you excluded nd
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 27, 2009, 12:50:05 pm
you had me up until you excluded nd

ha!  well, i went to a ND / Penn St game a few years back with ppl who went to Penn St and they were screamin and yelling and what not, and never really did anyone yell back.  and after Penn St. lost, they were like, "man, you guys were much better than we thought" or "we got lucky, good game" and such.

  i thought it was odd.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 27, 2009, 12:54:54 pm
i've seen them play 3 or 4 times at pitt and thought their fans were assholes

and i'm a penn state fan, so i got no love for either

my issue with sawx fans is that they tend to also be "fans" of boston/new england teams in sports i care about. except they cant talk about the pats/bruins/c's without bringing up the stupid ass sawx
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 27, 2009, 12:55:14 pm
Is Jeter really gay?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 27, 2009, 01:30:19 pm
The best part about ND home games is you can openly root against the Irish and not have to worry about losing your life. 2007 was the best season EVER for ND haters living in northern Indiana.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 27, 2009, 01:31:55 pm
The best part about ND home games is you can openly root against the Irish and not have to worry about losing your life. 2007 was the best season EVER for ND haters living in northern Indiana.

I was going to say something similar.  As a Domer, I'm a much different fan this past decade than I was the previous two decades (especially the 80's).
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Venerable Bede on April 27, 2009, 02:14:50 pm
The best part about ND home games is you can openly root against the Irish and not have to worry about losing your life. 2007 was the best season EVER for ND haters living in northern Indiana.

I was going to say something similar.  As a Domer, I'm a much different fan this past decade than I was the previous two decades (especially the 80's).
yeah, when you are quiet during an ND/Stanford game that says something, what with all those rabid Stanford fans. . .and Stanford should have won that game.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on April 27, 2009, 04:28:50 pm
Wow, Brashear suspended for 6 games...one for the push during warmups and 5 for the late hit on Betts.  I don't deny that a suspension was appropriate...but doesn't this seem excessive?  Especially considering the hit that Avery gave to Jurcina with the butt of his stick with no penalty or discipline.  I guess that's the cost of having your reputation preceed you.

The great part is that Tortorella sits Avery for a game for a lack of discipline, then the next game totally loses it, thows a water bottle into the stands and brandishes a stick at the fans.

Oh well....i think this suspension and all the whining the Rangers are doing to the league will only fire the Caps up more.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 27, 2009, 04:34:20 pm
six games seems excessive. i could see 2
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 27, 2009, 04:36:35 pm
at least Avery is a decent hockey player when he's not being an ass.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on April 27, 2009, 04:38:51 pm
Yeah Brash doesn't bring much to the ice besides muscle, but that's not the point I'm trying to make.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: BookerT on April 27, 2009, 04:43:07 pm
honestly, i think the league just did the caps a favor. they don't need brashear. they needed him to change the tone of the series, which he did when they put him in there. now the caps can play the role of the infuriated, disrespected team, which was all the rangers had going for them into game 7. they can rally behind him, and all that shit, which will help lessen the pressure of "oh shit, we better not lose another game 7 at home!"
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on April 27, 2009, 04:47:11 pm
honestly, i think the league just did the caps a favor. they don't need brashear. they needed him to change the tone of the series, which he did when they put him in there. now the caps can play the role of the infuriated, disrespected team, which was all the rangers had going for them into game 7. they can rally behind him, and all that shit, which will help lessen the pressure of "oh shit, we better not lose another game 7 at home!"
Well put.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: walkonby on April 27, 2009, 06:35:41 pm
i just stumbled in here, because i don't have tv, haven't really followed hockey this or last year and  didn't even know the caps were even playing the rangers.  nice.  but the real point is after reading the last two pages, you guys really take your hockey talk seriously. 

except for charlie.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 27, 2009, 06:50:47 pm
yeah, when you are quiet during an ND/Stanford game that says something, what with all those rabid Stanford fans. . .and Stanford should have won that game.

Clearly you've never seen me at an SC/ND game....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Venerable Bede on April 27, 2009, 06:59:15 pm
yeah, when you are quiet during an ND/Stanford game that says something, what with all those rabid Stanford fans. . .and Stanford should have won that game.

Clearly you've never seen me at an SC/ND game....
well, why would i. . .i mean, have you seen the SC Song Girls (http://www.bustedcoverage.com/?p=13898)?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 27, 2009, 07:10:12 pm
well, why would i. . .i mean, have you seen the SC Song Girls (http://www.bustedcoverage.com/?p=13898)?

Now that's a charity I can get behind....

Back in the early 90's, I went to a Kentucky-USC basketball game at the LA Sports Arena and took a picture in my Kentucky garb with the SC song girls.  The Kentucky cheer squad was so mad I did that that they insisted I take a picture with them because "we're hotter than they are."  Who was I to argue without photo evidence.

The girl I was dating at the time (it was actually her basketball team that we were there with) was really unhappy with me (I'm sure my ear to ear grin did not help).  I'll have to dig those pictures out at some point.

And back to hockey talk - Ducks 2-0 tonight, with an empty netter to make it 3-0.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 27, 2009, 07:49:00 pm
In the words of Dana Jacobson, "Fuck Charlie Weis, Fuck Notre Dame, Fuck Touchdown Jesus!"
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Mobius on April 27, 2009, 10:01:20 pm
In the words of Dana Jacobson, "Fuck Charlie Weis, Fuck Notre Dame, Fuck Touchdown Jesus!"

Amen!

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 28, 2009, 09:41:15 am
yeah, when you are quiet during an ND/Stanford game that says something, what with all those rabid Stanford fans. . .and Stanford should have won that game.

Clearly you've never seen me at an SC/ND game....
well, why would i. . .i mean, have you seen the SC Song Girls (http://www.bustedcoverage.com/?p=13898)?
spoiled children indeed
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: heather on April 28, 2009, 10:55:45 am
i'm having a difficult time getting any work done today!  who's going game 7 tonight?!

LET'S GO CAPS!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 28, 2009, 10:58:50 am
Ill be at the Devils game tonight! Cant wait (not that I like either team, but its the playoffs).

Im hoping the Rangers manage to pull this off.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on April 28, 2009, 11:01:17 am
i'm having a difficult time getting any work done today!  who's going game 7 tonight?!

LET'S GO CAPS!
I'm trying to find a pair of reasonably priced tix....130 apiece will get you in now but that's too much for me.  Hopefully prices will drop later in the day.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on April 28, 2009, 12:06:10 pm
Wow, Brashear suspended for 6 games...one for the push during warmups and 5 for the late hit on Betts.  I don't deny that a suspension was appropriate...but doesn't this seem excessive?  Especially considering the hit that Avery gave to Jurcina with the butt of his stick with no penalty or discipline.  I guess that's the cost of having your reputation preceed you.

The great part is that Tortorella sits Avery for a game for a lack of discipline, then the next game totally loses it, thows a water bottle into the stands and brandishes a stick at the fans.

Oh well....i think this suspension and all the whining the Rangers are doing to the league will only fire the Caps up more.


Brash is a total goon and should not be in the game.  He intentionally injured a player  Broke the dude's eye socket.  Man could have easily been blinded.  Brash can hardly skate.  Looks like a tripod when he is on the ice.  I am all for a physical game and all, but Brash should have been suspended for 10-20 games for his actions.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 28, 2009, 12:11:39 pm

Oh well....i think this suspension and all the whining the Rangers are doing to the league will only fire the Caps up more.

 that may be, but will it fire them  up for the first 5 games against Pittsburgh or New Jersey?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 28, 2009, 12:39:11 pm
Racist.

Next thing we know, you're going to say he can't swim either.



Brash is a total goon and should not be in the game.  He intentionally injured a player  Broke the dude's eye socket.  Man could have easily been blinded.  Brash can hardly skate.  Looks like a tripod when he is on the ice.  I am all for a physical game and all, but Brash should have been suspended for 10-20 games for his actions.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on April 28, 2009, 12:44:19 pm

Oh well....i think this suspension and all the whining the Rangers are doing to the league will only fire the Caps up more.

 that may be, but will it fire them  up for the first 5 games against Pittsburgh or New Jersey?
Well first we have to win tonight....

If we advance I feel confident the squad will be properly motivated for the next series.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on April 28, 2009, 01:32:15 pm

I  have been to MSG and i quite enjoyed my experience there. I was even rooting for Boston.  no one was shouting homophobic comments. 

Remember 'Homo Larry'?  (http://gaylife.about.com/b/2008/03/21/gay-hockey-players-and-fans-respond-to-homo-larry-chants.htm)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 28, 2009, 02:50:00 pm
i know, right?  and have people forgetten the mcsorley scandal?!?  he was so traumatized by that attack that he doesn't even remember it.  Brashear is a victim, and is merely perpetuating the cycle that we must all work to break!  cut the man some slack, will ya? 

(just looked up his wiki page - did you know brashear is supposedly an accomplished concert pianist?  see, the man is GOOD for hockey!!!  LOL)

Racist.

Next thing we know, you're going to say he can't swim either.



Brash is a total goon and should not be in the game.  He intentionally injured a player  Broke the dude's eye socket.  Man could have easily been blinded.  Brash can hardly skate.  Looks like a tripod when he is on the ice.  I am all for a physical game and all, but Brash should have been suspended for 10-20 games for his actions.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 28, 2009, 02:55:26 pm
i know, right?  and have people forgetten the mcsorley scandal?!?  he was so traumatized by that attack that he doesn't even remember it.  Brashear is a victim, and is merely perpetuating the cycle that we must all work to break!  cut the man some slack, will ya? 

(just looked up his wiki page - did you know brashear is supposedly an accomplished concert pianist?  see, the man is GOOD for hockey!!!  LOL)

Racist.

Next thing we know, you're going to say he can't swim either.



Brash is a total goon and should not be in the game.  He intentionally injured a player  Broke the dude's eye socket.  Man could have easily been blinded.  Brash can hardly skate.  Looks like a tripod when he is on the ice.  I am all for a physical game and all, but Brash should have been suspended for 10-20 games for his actions.

its amazing Brashear has only been banged in the back of the head with a stick once.  Funny when you spend your career antagonizing people, then someone strikes back and you're all upset about it.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 28, 2009, 02:58:24 pm
also from Brashear's wiki page:

"Since the lockout came to an end, Brashear has had trouble adjusting to the new, more wide-open game. After a game in which he went after Darius Kasparitis who had taken a run at Peter Forsberg earlier in the game, he said he did not like the "new" NHL stating that you can't do anything anymore."

yeah, they took the passing, shooting, scoring, skating part and threw it right out the window!

 oh wait....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 28, 2009, 11:14:33 pm
well, i am just trying to wrap my head around the awesomeness that i watched Verizon Center over the weekend....but i'll go first.

   I dont like to pick series length really but i'll try
 
  Boston wins in 5
  Washington wins in 7
  Carolina wins in 7
  Pittsburgh wins in 6

  San Jose wins in 7
  Detroit wins in 5
  Vancouver wins in 6
  Chicago sweeps Calgary (i have to pick one sweep, right?)

 round 1 is over, and i missed the east by one measly game and truthfully its only because i hate to call my own team for a sweep.

  I should have put money on those picks.

   Round 2
 
  Bruins in 5
  Penguins in 6 

  Red Wings in 5
  Vancouver in 7 (though i'd so like the Hawks to win it and i love the Luongo/Khabibulin matchup)

 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Chip Chanko on April 28, 2009, 11:33:48 pm
LET'S GO IRISH!!! (i mean caps)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on April 29, 2009, 12:34:23 am
We move on...

Round 2:
EAST
1] Boston
6] Carolina

2] Washington
4] Pittsburgh


WEST
2] Detroit
8] Anaheim

3] Vancouver
4] Chicago

Pick your winners and number of games each series will go.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on April 29, 2009, 12:35:30 am
EAST
Boston 6
Pittsburgh 6


WEST
Detroit 5
Chicago 7
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 29, 2009, 01:04:28 am
wow, way to give up a game (and a series, and a season...) in 90 seconds.  nice work, devils.

here to hoping that my predictions are better in the second round.  first round was OK, but i wouldn't have made any money betting on my first round picks.

boston in 5

pitt in 6

detroit sweeps (in order to fulfill my "sweep" requirement, and to piss off smax... although i doubt this will happen)

vanc in 7
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 29, 2009, 01:07:44 am
oh my god! that last minute at the devils game was brutal. i seriously dont know what happened but it was like the devils gave up. the 3rd goal looked like a PP goal and then the 4th goal - oh my god! just like that the playoffs were over.

round 2:
bruins - 6
pens - 7

wings - 5
hawks - 6

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 29, 2009, 08:58:12 am
i suppose its possible that Boston makes it to the conference finals without more than 2 full games shown on national television.

thanks Versus

SERIES I #1  vs.  #6

Friday, May 1 at Boston, 7:30 p.m. VERSUS (JIP), TSN
Sunday, May 3 at Boston, 7:30 p.m. VERSUS, TSN
Wednesday, May 6 at Carolina, 7:30 p.m. VERSUS (JIP), TSN
Friday, May 8 at Carolina, 7:30 p.m. VERSUS (JIP), TSN
*Sunday, May 10 at Boston, 7:30 p.m. VERSUS, TSN
*Tuesday, May 12 at Carolina, 7:00 p.m. VERSUS, TSN
*Thursday, May 14 at Boston, TBD TSN


SERIES J #2  vs.  #4

Saturday, May 2 at Washington, 1:00 p.m. NBC, CBC, RDS
Monday, May 4 at Washington, 7:00 p.m. VERSUS, CBC, RDS
Wednesday, May 6 at Pittsburgh, 7:00 p.m. VERSUS, CBC, RDS
Friday, May 8 at Pittsburgh, 7:00 p.m. VERSUS, CBC, RDS
*Saturday, May 9 at Washington, 7:00 p.m. VERSUS, CBC, RDS
*Monday, May 11 at Pittsburgh, TBD VERSUS, CBC, RDS
*Wednesday, May 13 at Washington, 7:00 p.m. VERSUS, CBC, RDS


SERIES K #2  vs.  #8

Friday, May 1 at Detroit, 7:00 p.m. VERSUS, TSN2
Sunday, May 3 at Detroit, 2:00 p.m. NBC, TSN
Tuesday, May 5 at Anaheim, 10:30 p.m. VERSUS, TSN
Thursday, May 7 at Anaheim, 10:30 p.m. VERSUS, TSN
*Sunday, May 10 at Detroit, 5:00 p.m. TSN
*Tuesday, May 12 at Anaheim, TBD VERSUS, TSN
*Thursday, May 14 at Detroit, TBD VERSUS, TSN

SERIES L #3  vs.  #4
 
Thursday, April 30 at Vancouver, 9:00 p.m. CBC, VERSUS
Saturday, May 2 at Vancouver, 9:00 p.m. CBC, VERSUS
Tuesday, May 5 at Chicago, 8:00 p.m. CBC, VERSUS
Thursday, May 7 at Chicago, 8:00 p.m. CBC, VERSUS
*Saturday, May 9 at Vancouver, 10:30 p.m CBC, VERSUS
*Monday, May 11 at Chicago, 9:00 p.m. CBC, VERSUS (JIP)
*Thursday, May 14 at Vancouver, TBD CBC, VERSUS
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 29, 2009, 09:20:11 am
Excuse my ignorance but what does the (JIP) mean?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 29, 2009, 09:28:24 am
Excuse my ignorance but what does the (JIP) mean?


Joined In Progress.

and you are excused, you had a tough night last night! :(

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 29, 2009, 09:32:40 am
when do tickets go on sale
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 29, 2009, 09:44:24 am
Boston in 5
Caps in 6
Detroit in 6
Chicago in 6
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on April 29, 2009, 10:13:27 am
I made it to the game last night...It was completely insane.  Definately the loudest sporting event I've ever been to...a complete blast.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 29, 2009, 11:11:13 am
I made it to the game last night...It was completely insane.  Definately the loudest sporting event I've ever been to...a complete blast.

we tried warning you :)

i'm bummed that i'm within striking distance of 3 teams (NYR/NJ/PHL), all of them made it to the playoffs, i slept on round 1, and now i won't be attending a playoff game this year.  i suck.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 29, 2009, 02:18:37 pm
i like this for the pens as a match up, but hate it because now i have to hear people that dont watch hockey talk for 2 weeks. even if/when the pens win, they'll just go back to mumbling about being horny for zorny or something
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Venerable Bede on April 29, 2009, 03:33:22 pm
i like this for the pens as a match up, but hate it because now i have to hear people that dont watch hockey talk for 2 weeks. even if/when the pens win, they'll just go back to mumbling about being horny for zorny or something
ahhh. . .always loved those pens/caps series. . .i had a friend that was convinced that the pens won or lost towards the end of the season solely so that the pens would play the caps in the first round. . .
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 29, 2009, 03:37:50 pm
i am too busy to check...what was the Caps/Pens season series like?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 29, 2009, 03:44:11 pm
3-1 caps
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 29, 2009, 04:58:03 pm
If we need it game 7 is on my birthday. PUCK FITTSBURGH
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 29, 2009, 06:51:52 pm
Boston in 6
Pens in 7
Vancouver in 7

And since it worked last time....

Detroit in 5
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 29, 2009, 06:53:00 pm
thanks Versus

No kidding.  Thank god I don't have to listen to those f'in homers on CSN-Bay Area any longer.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Bombay Chutney on April 30, 2009, 09:44:04 am
when do tickets go on sale

Presale @ 11:00am today.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 30, 2009, 10:45:58 am
thanks Versus

No kidding.  Thank god I don't have to listen to those f'in homers on CSN-Bay Area any longer.

i actually enjoy the Boston homers. :)  i just hope i get to watch more than just the last 30 minutes of the Bruins game.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 30, 2009, 06:17:14 pm
and a quick word from those not in the playoffs: The NHL has loaned an unknown amount of money to the Phoenix Coyotes for payroll and rent payments (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4112784)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 01, 2009, 08:53:55 am
move them to toronto
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 01, 2009, 09:19:24 am
and a quick word from those not in the playoffs: The NHL has loaned an unknown amount of money to the Phoenix Coyotes for payroll and rent payments (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4112784)
The bigger issue is rumours coming from venue ownership that the NHL has day-to-day control of the franchise, and did at the trade deadline. Did they approve taking a bunch of junk salary and shopping Jokinen to Canada? Very big ramifications.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 01, 2009, 10:26:48 am
I heard on the radio yesterday that even with selling out most home games and the tons of jerseys etc they are selling the Caps are still operating at a loss this year.  I guess without the money from a lucrative TV contract these teams will never make much.....I'm curious to know the revenue of other NHL franchises, who makes $$ and who doesn't.  Also curious to know if the Canadian teams make more than their US counterparts....I'd imagine they have a better TV contract up there?

Can anyone shed any light on this stuff?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 01, 2009, 10:51:35 am
i doubt canadian teams are doing a whole lot better than their US counterparts.  they have better TV coverage... to a much smaller audience.  hockey on CBC is probably more of a tradition than a business decision at this point, and the CBC has a VERY limited budget.

EDIT: quick google search revealed that the CBC pays the NHL about $100 million a year. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 01, 2009, 10:55:17 am
I believe with revenue sharing that the TV contract money (US, Canadian, local) is split evenly between all teams. At least that's what I was always told.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 01, 2009, 11:36:35 am
the nbc/versus deal is the problem. dead horse i know, but youd think a second rate network would at least broadcast more games than they do

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 01, 2009, 11:44:19 am
the nbc/versus deal is the problem. dead horse i know, but youd think a second rate network would at least broadcast more games than they do



i feel the same way.  I guess they get better rating for rodeos and fishing shows...sad.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 01, 2009, 12:19:09 pm
Can anyone shed any light on this stuff?

You rang? 

Post lockout, the NHL now has a Collective Bargaining Agreement where the most profitable franchises pitch in a portion of their profits and that money is then shared with smaller, less well performing (marketwise, not on the ice) teams.  This allows them to meet payroll and compete with the new salary cap, which is usually much more than their total salary was before the cap was in place.

A few years ago, the Versus TV deal only paid each team $2 Million each, which is small potatoes compared to larger sports.  If you add NBC and their local affiliate, most American hockey team pull in $6 million per franchise($8 million for most Canadian franchises).  That's less than 10% of the salary cap, so teams have to rely on ticket sales, which in small markets have been down.  Thus the popular teams (NY Rangers, Montreal, Toronto, Philly) subsidize the less popular teams.

And yes, generally, the remaining Canadian teams are outperforming their US counterparts, save for the Rangers and Philly. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 01, 2009, 12:25:13 pm
Here's a good article in Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/2007/11/08/nhl-team-values-biz-07nhl_cx_mo_kb_1108nhlintro.html) to back me up.

And a list of the most valuable franchises. (http://www.forbes.com/2008/10/29/nhl-team-values-biz-sports-nhl08_cz_mo_kb_1029nhl_land.html)  But don't confuse value with revenue as it's not always 1-1, however it's a pretty good indicator.  For example, the Bruins and Flyers are listed as fairly valuable (5 & 7), but this year they are both operating at a loss (debts on facilities are included), while the Oilers are listed near the bottom but are operating at a profit.

I read Forbes for the hockey coverage.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 01, 2009, 12:36:49 pm
Thus the popular teams (NY Rangers, Montreal, Toronto, Philly) subsidize the less popular teams...

...the remaining Canadian teams are outperforming their US counterparts, save for the Rangers and Philly... 
Is it just gearing up for tonite that's allowing you to leave Detroit out of this discussion? Even in the worst economy in North America they're still top 5 in revenues, I believe. And while there's no definitive way of measuring it, I'd say the number of Wings fans at road games helps small market economys alot more than most franchises.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 01, 2009, 12:47:49 pm
83% of the population of Detroit is black. What percentage of Red Wings crowds are black?

Thus the popular teams (NY Rangers, Montreal, Toronto, Philly) subsidize the less popular teams...

...the remaining Canadian teams are outperforming their US counterparts, save for the Rangers and Philly... 
Is it just gearing up for tonite that's allowing you to leave Detroit out of this discussion? Even in the worst economy in North America they're still top 5 in revenues, I believe. And while there's no definitive way of measuring it, I'd say the number of Wings fans at road games helps small market economys alot more than most franchises.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 01, 2009, 12:48:30 pm
Is it just gearing up for tonite that's allowing you to leave Detroit out of this discussion?

I didn't even realize they had a hockey team.

(thanks for not missing that, and it was absolutely gamesmanship)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 01, 2009, 12:52:04 pm
thanks for the subsidies, jules!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 01, 2009, 12:55:02 pm
(thanks for not missing that, and it was absolutely gamesmanship)
I figured. Well played. Rafalski is out for tonite which makes me pretty nervous.

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Bombay Chutney on May 01, 2009, 08:31:19 pm
Tickets available right now for Saturday's game.  The ticket page says they're not on sale, but if you click the "more info" link it takes you to the ticket buying page.    Same for Monday's game, but that one wasn't coming up with anything available.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 01, 2009, 10:50:04 pm
Wings came out looking rusty in game 1, but it was an intense game all the same. Datsyuk and Hossa gotta step it up!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 02, 2009, 01:18:25 pm
Wings came out looking rusty in game 1, but it was an intense game all the same. Datsyuk and Hossa gotta step it up!

As always, discipline (or lack thereof) did the Ducks in.  Bummer too as they were probably the better team through most of the even strength play.

Great game though.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 03, 2009, 01:48:54 pm
I'm shocked Brown didn't get suspended.  I thought two games for sure.  Not sure I'd want to be in his skates today, especially if either team gets a comfortable lead in the 3rd.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 03, 2009, 01:53:53 pm
I'm shocked Brown didn't get suspended.  I thought two games for sure.  Not sure I'd want to be in his skates today, especially if either team gets a comfortable lead in the 3rd.
I knew he wouldn't get more than one if any. It looked worse than it was. I was all for the game misconduct because he did raise his shoulder and change directions and absolutely could've pulled up, but I didn't think it was worthy of multiple games after the one he got tossed from.

There's a weird trend in the NHL right now where if you get tossed from the game, you don't get a suspension, but if the refs miss it and don't toss you, you get multiple games. Ridiculously inconsistent this playoffs.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 03, 2009, 06:27:02 pm
When this game is finally over, you folks are going to need to put either Smackie or myself on suicide watch. I need an oxygen tank over here!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 03, 2009, 06:41:57 pm
I need a drink.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 03, 2009, 06:44:35 pm
I'm hanging myself. Every fucking year we lose a multi-OT playoff game where we took ~300 shots on the other teams goalie in OT and they took fucking one. Goddamnit.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 03, 2009, 06:51:29 pm
i can has an offsidz?!?!?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 03, 2009, 07:49:52 pm
EVERY FUCKING YEAR!!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 03, 2009, 08:09:41 pm
i hereby declare the wings ROBBED. a missed offside leads to a lucky deflection.  for the neutral observer, this was a less-than-stellar end to what was an otherwise exciting game,
although i suspect duck fans feel otherwise.

delayed at the airport, this is sweetcell reporting live from cincinnati.

p.s. i'd LOVE to watch a game from this series with either one of you. guaranteed hoot.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 03, 2009, 08:43:21 pm
I spent my afternoon watching this game...afternoon turned into evening.  Eventually I just started to pity both teams.  They just looked so tired......Can we go home yet????  It started to seem like no matter what the wings did they'd never punch one in.  A shame the game winner came the way it did.

My heart goes out to you detroit fans.

GO CAPS!

PS - Strong Belgian beer helps
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 04, 2009, 12:10:55 am
usually, i get disgruntled at the fact that the Bruins have been the most invisible team in the playoffs this season (next to San Jose, of course!) but tonight....its ok...move along....nothing to see here...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Bombay Chutney on May 04, 2009, 09:16:45 am
Looks like there are singles available for tonight's game via TM.  Ignore the "Currently not on sale" message and click "More info" to get to the ticket page.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 04, 2009, 12:16:10 pm
I know nothing of this offsides you speak of....

Nonetheless, Anaheim probably deserved a win in Detroit this weekend having played as well as they did.  Both games very likely could have gone to OT.  You East Coasters should take a nap tomorrow evening as I seem to remember 3 of 4 games in this series going to OT back in 1997 (I had a law school final the morning of the 3 OT affair in Anaheim that I bombed...).

Yesterday's game reminded me so much of the 2003 3OT affair.  Giguere kept Anaheim in it until the Ducks could finally catch a break.  And, far be it for me to point out that Anaheim is 5-2 at the Joe since that game. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 04, 2009, 01:11:01 pm
overtime playoff hockey is the grade destroyer. i bombed a final after the nedved goal
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 04, 2009, 01:22:47 pm
My favorite part was after the summer break, the professor sought me out and asked what happened (apparently she expected me to do better).  I told her that I was up until 4 AM watching an OT hockey game and just wasn't prepared/alert for the 9AM final.

She was so appalled, but I was fine with it.  I'm sure I said something like "Playoff hockey, what are you going to do?"
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 04, 2009, 01:38:52 pm
and she answered, "badly on your exam, obviously." :D
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 04, 2009, 01:58:08 pm
I was never going to be a property lawyer anyway....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 04, 2009, 02:05:12 pm
not with that attitude!

i wish i remembered what class i bombed. i wager it was an elective
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Venerable Bede on May 04, 2009, 03:45:14 pm
and a quick word from those not in the playoffs: The NHL has loaned an unknown amount of money to the Phoenix Coyotes for payroll and rent payments (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4112784)

where's rick tocchet when you need him?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 04, 2009, 04:48:30 pm
where's rick tocchet when you need him?

Skipping out on poker tournaments?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 04, 2009, 09:54:56 pm
Oh yeah!  Caps are the only team up 2-0 in the semis after 2 games!  Off to Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on May 04, 2009, 09:57:37 pm
Oh yeah!  Caps are the only team up 2-0 in the semis after 2 games!  Off to Pittsburgh.

Maybe they can keep Sidney out of the crease next game. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 04, 2009, 10:07:42 pm
Oh yeah!  Caps are the only team up 2-0 in the semis after 2 games!  Off to Pittsburgh.

Maybe they can keep Sidney out of the crease next game. 
Sour grapes?
I concur though...loads of 2nd and 3rd chances for the kid....though his last goal was pretty much garbage time.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on May 04, 2009, 10:33:49 pm
Quite the opposite.  I'm a Caps fan.  Crosby scored Steckel-like goals.  Compare that to what Ovechkin did.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 04, 2009, 10:42:28 pm
Yeah..all of OV's goals were from way outside...the last one esp. was suuuweeeeet.

I still say Crosby's last goal was pure garbage though...goalie pulled, desperation, nothing but a stat.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 05, 2009, 08:51:20 am
sid's the only pen thats come to score. pretty frustrating, both games in dc were winnable

i think the caps win anyway and by no means am i saying that the pens were robbed or anything like that, but if we're calling goals garbage, cooke was clearly interfered with on ovies second goal
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 05, 2009, 08:53:03 am
for me the difference is the caps are getting better play from their nonstars
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on May 05, 2009, 09:02:04 am
for me the difference is the caps are getting better play from their nonstars

Maybe Kunitz needs to cross-check the goalie more often.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 05, 2009, 09:04:14 am
or score a goal. either would be helpful
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 05, 2009, 09:33:55 am
I'm a Caps fan. 

who isnt these days.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 05, 2009, 10:00:06 am
I'm a Caps fan. 

who isnt these days.
Ok so why so much attitude (not just from you) about all the new fans in DC?  People who are just getting into hockey aren't allowed to??

It only makes sense there would be lot of new hockey fans in DC.  There hasn't been a likable, winning team in this city for well over a decade.  The caps ownership and management are doing a brilliant job of marketing the team, and they're winning.  To top it off they have one of the games biggest stars (if not THE biggest star) on the roster.  So what's not to like?  Why shouldn't the team have a boat load of new fans?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 05, 2009, 10:06:50 am
sid's the only pen thats come to score. pretty frustrating, both games in dc were winnable

i think the caps win anyway and by no means am i saying that the pens were robbed or anything like that, but if we're calling goals garbage, cooke was clearly interfered with on ovies second goal
Ok if you want to play that game how about Kunitz's head shot on Varly right before Crosby's third goal?

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 05, 2009, 10:07:54 am
exactly, i dont want to play that game. that was the point

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 05, 2009, 10:12:35 am
exactly, i dont want to play that game. that was the point


Well ok then. 
Last night was a way more physical game than the first.  Looking forward to seeing what unfolds up in Pitt.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 05, 2009, 10:55:57 am
I'm a Caps fan. 

who isnt these days.
Ok so why so much attitude (not just from you) about all the new fans in DC?  People who are just getting into hockey aren't allowed to??

It only makes sense there would be lot of new hockey fans in DC.  There hasn't been a likable, winning team in this city for well over a decade.  The caps ownership and management are doing a brilliant job of marketing the team, and they're winning.  To top it off they have one of the games biggest stars (if not THE biggest star) on the roster.  So what's not to like?  Why shouldn't the team have a boat load of new fans?

  I have a well-stated personal vendetta against the Capitals. we know that.  Other than that i find it simply annoying that people constantly ridicule me about being Canadian and hockey and what not, all of a sudden want to come over and watch the game or talk about last nights action. 

  I dont know, i suppose if i thought you all would be here in 3 years after Ovechkin gets traded to Detroit then perhaps i wouldnt mind. 

   Also, just remember, whenever you are just getting into anything (even this forum) you should always expect the people who are already there to be skeptical and sometimes poke fun.

  hockey newbies are no different!  :)  your team is up 2-0, though, so i wouldnt let it bother you much.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 05, 2009, 11:05:48 am
I'm a Caps fan. 

who isnt these days.
Ok so why so much attitude (not just from you) about all the new fans in DC?  People who are just getting into hockey aren't allowed to??

It only makes sense there would be lot of new hockey fans in DC.  There hasn't been a likable, winning team in this city for well over a decade.  The caps ownership and management are doing a brilliant job of marketing the team, and they're winning.  To top it off they have one of the games biggest stars (if not THE biggest star) on the roster.  So what's not to like?  Why shouldn't the team have a boat load of new fans?

  I dont know, i suppose if i thought you all would be here in 3 years after Ovechkin gets traded to Detroit then perhaps i wouldnt mind. 

   Also, just remember, whenever you are just getting into anything (even this forum) you should always expect the people who are already there to be skeptical and sometimes poke fun.

  hockey newbies are no different!  :)  your team is up 2-0, though, so i wouldnt let it bother you much.

I've heard these Ovechkin/Detroit rumors recently - Newsflash - He's got a 13 year contract...All reliable sources have said these rumors are just that.

I'm not a hockey newbie, but wouldn't consider myself a long time hardcore fan either.  But having a compelling, winning team in town has sure ticked my interest.  And yes, I am happy my team is up 2-0.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 05, 2009, 11:19:40 am
Oh i havent heard any of these Ovechkin to Detroit rumours. I was simply using it as an example of something that would happen that would cause winning and fanbase to deteriorate.

  maybe saying "when Ovie gets a career ending concussion" but that seems too mean.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on May 05, 2009, 11:20:26 am
I can only speak for myself, and I attended many a losing Caps game at the Capital Centre.

Everybody loves a winner, especially DC.  Plus it's a pretty exciting team to watch.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 05, 2009, 11:56:37 am
With all this excitement in the hometown, I hope you all aren't missing the de facto Stanley Cup Final happening out west....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 05, 2009, 12:08:13 pm
With all this excitement in the hometown, I hope you all aren't missing the de facto Stanley Cup Final happening out west....
No, i got about SIX HOURS of this series on Sunday afternoon...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 05, 2009, 12:31:46 pm
With all this excitement in the hometown, I hope you all aren't missing the de facto Stanley Cup Final happening out west....

(http://www.rockingham.k12.va.us/sound_sorting/initial_consonants/y/images/yawn.jpg)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 05, 2009, 12:39:14 pm
Blah, all the caps did was hold home ice and they barely did that.  Won each game by one goal.  Sooner or later someone will clock Ovechkin and knock a little class into him and when it happens all the DC fans will be whining and moaning while the rest of the NHL will be laughing their collective asses off.  Dude has skills, no one can deny that, but he couldn't spell class if you spotted him the first five letters.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 05, 2009, 12:43:39 pm
....but don't tell me you wouldn't take him on your team in a heartbeat.

And the score of last night's game doesn't really tell the story, IMO.  Crosby's last goal was with 30 seconds to go, on the power play, with the goalie pulled.  Caps steamrolled them in the 3rd.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 05, 2009, 12:48:36 pm
Blah, all the caps did was hold home ice and they barely did that.  Won each game by one goal.  Sooner or later someone will clock Ovechkin and knock a little class into him and when it happens all the DC fans will be whining and moaning while the rest of the NHL will be laughing their collective asses off.  Dude has skills, no one can deny that, but he couldn't spell class if you spotted him the first five letters.

he's better than Crosby.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: BookerT on May 05, 2009, 12:49:50 pm
Blah, all the caps did was hold home ice and they barely did that.  Won each game by one goal.  Sooner or later someone will clock Ovechkin and knock a little class into him and when it happens all the DC fans will be whining and moaning while the rest of the NHL will be laughing their collective asses off.  Dude has skills, no one can deny that, but he couldn't spell class if you spotted him the first five letters.

this is the kind of thoughtful, reasoned analysis i'd expect from someone who has seen sevendust more than 50 times.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 05, 2009, 12:50:54 pm
Blah, all the caps did was hold home ice and they barely did that.  Won each game by one goal.  Sooner or later someone will clock Ovechkin and knock a little class into him and when it happens all the DC fans will be whining and moaning while the rest of the NHL will be laughing their collective asses off.  Dude has skills, no one can deny that, but he couldn't spell class if you spotted him the first five letters.

this is the kind of thoughtful, reasoned analysis i'd expect from someone who has seen sevendust more than 50 times.
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 05, 2009, 12:52:26 pm
Actually there are players I would take before I would take Alex.  As far as the game goes, there a lot of PP opportunities for both sides (five each I believe).  Caps are up 2-0, congrats to them, but it was two one goal home games.  What the series looks like in 3-4 more games will be interesting.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 05, 2009, 01:00:59 pm
i still dont see Varlamov winning the Eastern Conference. I dont know though, cause i am blacked out of these fucking games. and i have the Hurricanes to worry about.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 05, 2009, 01:02:33 pm
he's played well in dc, but rookie goalies, i dunno

plus the pens are hopeless apart from sid on the offensive end
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 05, 2009, 01:12:16 pm
i still dont see Varlamov winning the Eastern Conference. I dont know though, cause i am blacked out of these fucking games. and i have the Hurricanes to worry about.
He is the big x factor......this series is a wash in terms of stars/skaters.  It will be decided by secondary scoring and goaltending.

He's made some incredible saves to be sure, but given up a bad goal in each of the last 2 games.  But he's kept the caps in games when the rags and pens have been dominating the puck for long stretches. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 05, 2009, 02:14:20 pm
....but don't tell me you wouldn't take him on your team in a heartbeat.


Ovechkin is becoming the Manny Ramirez of hockey. you dont really want him on your team, but you really dont want him on someone elses.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 05, 2009, 02:18:07 pm
Blah, all the caps did was hold home ice and they barely did that.  Won each game by one goal.  Sooner or later someone will clock Ovechkin and knock a little class into him and when it happens all the DC fans will be whining and moaning while the rest of the NHL will be laughing their collective asses off.  Dude has skills, no one can deny that, but he couldn't spell class if you spotted him the first five letters.

this is the kind of thoughtful, reasoned analysis i'd expect from someone who has seen sevendust more than 50 times.


50 times or more for Aerosmith and the Stones as well, but only 1 time seeing the Beatles.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Venerable Bede on May 05, 2009, 02:38:57 pm
With all this excitement in the hometown, I hope you all aren't missing the de facto Stanley Cup Final happening out west....
yeah, that chicago/vancouver series is really exciting!!!!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 05, 2009, 03:36:22 pm
With all this excitement in the hometown, I hope you all aren't missing the de facto Stanley Cup Final happening out west....
yeah, that chicago/vancouver series is really exciting!!!!

its def the most exciting series for me. I love the young kids on the hawks. I wish I could see some of the B's games, as I need to see the Canes get knocked out.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 05, 2009, 04:24:38 pm
With all this excitement in the hometown, I hope you all aren't missing the de facto Stanley Cup Final happening out west....
yeah, that chicago/vancouver series is really exciting!!!!

Are you trying to get uninvited from Taco Tuesday?

I was even going to buy the bucket of Tecate...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 05, 2009, 04:56:19 pm
Reason 13539083425 why I love Denis Leary:
On Inside The Actor's Studio last night when asked about his least favorite profession he said Fireman.

And favorite profession HOCKEY PLAYER!

Rescue Me tonight! maybe hell be playing some hockey tonight.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: hutch on May 05, 2009, 06:51:33 pm
Blah, all the caps did was hold home ice and they barely did that.  Won each game by one goal.  Sooner or later someone will clock Ovechkin and knock a little class into him and when it happens all the DC fans will be whining and moaning while the rest of the NHL will be laughing their collective asses off.  Dude has skills, no one can deny that, but he couldn't spell class if you spotted him the first five letters.

WTF JERKY THIS IS DC DUDE so you can stuff your comment up your buttcrack nice and slow.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 05, 2009, 07:02:07 pm
I'm not a Caps fan, but this continual grudge against OV is pretty curmudgeonly and Don Cherry-esque... and that's never how someone should want to come off.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on May 05, 2009, 07:09:02 pm
Blah, all the caps did was hold home ice and they barely did that.  Won each game by one goal.  Sooner or later someone will clock Ovechkin and knock a little class into him and when it happens all the DC fans will be whining and moaning while the rest of the NHL will be laughing their collective asses off.  Dude has skills, no one can deny that, but he couldn't spell class if you spotted him the first five letters.

He gets overly excited when he scores a goal.  Is that the problem?

Is it classy to cross-check a goalie in the throat?   
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 05, 2009, 08:52:28 pm
I'm not a Caps fan, but this continual grudge against OV is pretty curmudgeonly and Don Cherry-esque... and that's never how someone should want to come off.

hockey- and Julian's America-related POTW
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 05, 2009, 09:08:18 pm
Blah, all the caps did was hold home ice and they barely did that.  Won each game by one goal.  Sooner or later someone will clock Ovechkin and knock a little class into him and when it happens all the DC fans will be whining and moaning while the rest of the NHL will be laughing their collective asses off.  Dude has skills, no one can deny that, but he couldn't spell class if you spotted him the first five letters.

He gets overly excited when he scores a goal.  Is that the problem?

Is it classy to cross-check a goalie in the throat?   


1) No that's not it. 

2) It isn't, but whether it is or not is 100% irrelevant to the fact that Alex has no class and no respect for the game.

Like I said, sooner or later someone will line him up and clock him.  There is always someone bigger, faster, or stronger no mater who you are.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 06, 2009, 01:18:38 am
Hey Sweets, if you wanted to call game 2 as robbed, check out game 3. Anaheim gets a powerplay for interference against a guy with the puck, then scores on it after Getzlaf runs our goalie. Then that same referee crew disallows a Detroit game-tying goal scored BEFORE a whistle because the out-of-position referee INTENDED to blow the whistle earlier.

I can accept that sometimes it's better to be lucky than good, but it's probably better to be in a Bettman approved TV market.

Fuck this shit, should be Detroit up 3-0 right now. These refs do understand Crosby isn't on Anaheim, right?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2009, 08:48:21 am
now i'm rooting for the ducks
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 06, 2009, 08:49:41 am
now i'm rooting for the canucks

me too.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2009, 08:52:20 am
in the west i usually default to canadian teams
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 06, 2009, 10:00:12 am
Blah, all the caps did was hold home ice and they barely did that.  Won each game by one goal.  Sooner or later someone will clock Ovechkin and knock a little class into him and when it happens all the DC fans will be whining and moaning while the rest of the NHL will be laughing their collective asses off.  Dude has skills, no one can deny that, but he couldn't spell class if you spotted him the first five letters.

He gets overly excited when he scores a goal.  Is that the problem?

Is it classy to cross-check a goalie in the throat?   


1) No that's not it. 

2) It isn't, but whether it is or not is 100% irrelevant to the fact that Alex has no class and no respect for the game.

Like I said, sooner or later someone will line him up and clock him.  There is always someone bigger, faster, or stronger no mater who you are.

So then exactly what is it about Alex that makes you say he has no class or respect for the game?  And of course he will get clocked you dope....everyone gets their clock cleaned in hockey eventually.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 06, 2009, 10:27:45 am
look at Chaz, the big hockey expert all of a sudden!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 06, 2009, 10:28:19 am
everyone gets their clock cleaned in hockey eventually.

not Chara.  :P
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on May 06, 2009, 10:53:42 am
I think if you don't play the game like a white Canadian from the 60s then you are showing no class.

Don Cherry-like position indeed.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 06, 2009, 10:54:42 am
look at Chaz, the big hockey expert all of a sudden!
I don't claim to be any sort of big expert...just trying to get to the root of ratbastard's OV resentment.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2009, 11:00:45 am
i dont like ovie because he plays for the caps

but not getting the ovie resentment when caps fans show so much venom towards sid is just silly
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 06, 2009, 11:04:20 am
i dont like ovie because he plays for the caps

but not getting the ovie resentment when caps fans show so much venom towards sid is just silly

I can see that, I just don't get the "no class" and "no respect for the game" comments.  For whatever gripes folks could have against Crosby, the guy is clearly great for the game.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on May 06, 2009, 11:26:26 am
i dont like ovie because he plays for the caps

but not getting the ovie resentment when caps fans show so much venom towards sid is just silly

I think Ted Leonsis nailed it:

""Sid is the best white wine the restaurant has to offer. Alex is a Denver Slammer, a shot of tequila in a glass of champagne. You whack the glass so that the fizz is coming up and you just shoot it."
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 06, 2009, 12:25:40 pm
Pens Wonder about Ovechkin's Blade

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_623801.html (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_623801.html)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 06, 2009, 12:40:15 pm
and a quick word from those not in the playoffs: The NHL has loaned an unknown amount of money to the Phoenix Coyotes for payroll and rent payments (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4112784)

coyotes headed to the hammer?!?

Phoenix Coyotes file for Chapter 11

TORONTO ? BlackBerry boss Jim Balsillie is looking to buy the cash-strapped Phoenix Coyotes and move them to Ontario.

The co-CEO of BlackBerry maker Research In Motion said that his $212.5 million offer is conditional on the Coyotes relocating to Canada, where they existed as the Winnipeg Jets before moving to Phoenix for the 1996-97 season.

The team filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Tuesday. The filing included the proposed sale of the franchise to PSE Sports & Entertainment, LP, a Delaware limited partnership, which would move the franchise to southern Ontario.

continued: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_623812.html
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2009, 12:46:20 pm
I will make no excuses for last night.  Anaheim was more than fortunate but I don't think you know what you were up against.

It was Cinco De Mayo.  Smackette, who has the worlds greatest sports karma for those that are sleeping with her, is half Mexican.

Manchester United, the Ducks and the Angels all won yesterday.  You had no chance from the get go.

Seriously, 2-1 Detroit I can stomach, but anyone who thinks that Anaheim did not deserve to win a game in Detroit is clearly looking through their homer glasses.

(http://download.lardlad.com/framegrabs/1F08/024.jpg)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2009, 12:47:32 pm
coyotes headed to the hammer?!?

All we need is The Whale back, and all will be right in the world.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 06, 2009, 01:09:34 pm
do we really need a 7th underachieving canadian NHL team?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 06, 2009, 01:50:32 pm
do we really need a 7th underachieving canadian NHL team?

yes.  and on the upside, they can't do much worse than the coyotes.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 06, 2009, 02:46:00 pm
do we really need a 7th underachieving canadian NHL team?
Are you on crack? The Canadian teams fund pretty much every team south of St. Louis through collective bargaining. Moving a team to where Balsillie wants to move it is a de facto right to print money. Shit, don't stop there -- move one of the Florida teams to Canada too and the salary cap leaguewide goes through the roof.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 06, 2009, 02:50:47 pm
Seriously, 2-1 Detroit I can stomach, but anyone who thinks that Anaheim did not deserve to win a game in Detroit is clearly looking through their homer glasses.

(http://download.lardlad.com/framegrabs/1F08/024.jpg)
I will grant you that wiping away the ridiculous calls by the referees in game 2 and 3 don't guarantee a Wings victory in either game, but that's twice in a row they've removed the same teams chance to win. I'm not trying to discredit Anaheim, or Hiller, and I didn't say a word after the first time, but last night was almost too much to stomach. Only to then discover its the same referee crew who called much of the Stanley Cup Finals -- lauded by every major hockey outlet outside of Pittsburgh as one of the most bewilderingly lopsided referee jobs in hockey history -- and at some point I'm going to get pissed.

How a veteran official can lose sight of the puck that was never held or covered in any way, shape or form is beyond me. By the head of the referee crews own admission in the LA Times this morning, he "was not in an ideal position" and "assumed" it was covered. And this guy is good enough to be calling the playoffs? And this says nothing of the events leading to Anaheim's second goal. Geez.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 06, 2009, 02:58:12 pm
do we really need a 7th underachieving canadian NHL team?
Are you on crack? The Canadian teams fund pretty much every team south of St. Louis through collective bargaining. Moving a team to where Balsillie wants to move it is a de facto right to print money. Shit, don't stop there -- move one of the Florida teams to Canada too and the salary cap leaguewide goes through the roof.

i meant as far as underachieving on the ice.  As a Canadian, i wish half the league was back there but we dont want the Coyotes, thank you.  Unless its just payback for the Nationals!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 06, 2009, 03:00:47 pm
i meant as far as underachieving on the ice.  As a Canadian, i wish half the league was back there but we dont want the Coyotes, thank you.  Unless its just payback for the Nationals!
OH!

I think Balsillie would throw so much money into the team (and have such unlimited resources if he puts it where he's talking about) that they'd turn around nicely. The Coyotes weren't bad for most of the year, and hockey futures ranks their farm system as really good (EDIT: #4 in the league). You add to that actually spending somewhere near the cap ceiling and I don't think it's a long turn around for the Winnipeg Jets Redux at all.

Also, unfortunately, I think if Canada wants more than 6 teams, the only way that's happening -- barring Bettman dropping over dead and someone completely different coming in as commissioner -- is for a terrible southern team to move up there. Might as well be this one.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 06, 2009, 03:06:28 pm
barring Bettman dropping over dead

GOOD IDEA!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on May 06, 2009, 05:15:19 pm
but if we're calling goals garbage, cooke was clearly interfered with on ovies second goal

One day after the Penguins complained publicly about the Caps using illegal picks on faceoffs, Coach Bruce Boudreau responded to the accusations by making some of his own.

"I agree that there was a lot of interference, but most of it was done by them," Boudreau said. "It's so funny. It really is. When we were pre-scouting these guys, one of the things we talked about what how many picks [former Cap] Matt Cooke throws everywhere. I know he's whining about our last goal, but if you look, every faceoff they won, he interfered with our guy going to the net."

Boudreau's theory is that the Penguins are simply trying to gain preferential treatment from the refs.

"It's just jockeying and whining," Boudreau said. "It's enough of it."

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 06, 2009, 05:19:48 pm
Pens Wonder about Ovechkin's Blade

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_623801.html (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_623801.html)

hilarious that the message of the embedded video on that page is "stop making excuses, the pens are losing because of lack of offense".  how appropriate as they seek external excuses like illegally curved sticks.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 06, 2009, 05:33:44 pm
Wings/Anaheim was the top story on PTI tonite. Kornheiser and Wilbon both agreed its one of the 5 "greatest hose-jobs in the history of sport." Wild.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2009, 05:47:22 pm
Now I feel better.  If those guys think it's in the top 5 "in the history of sports" then I know its not as bad as you're making it out to be.  There couldn't be two guys who have made a larger TV career by over-dramatizing and embracing sensationalism on the planet.

Call me if makes the Sports Reporters, Mitch Albom excluded.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 06, 2009, 05:58:38 pm
Now I feel better.  If those guys think it's in the top 5 "in the history of sports" then I know its not as bad as you're making it out to be.  There couldn't be two guys who have made a larger TV career by over-dramatizing and embracing sensationalism on the planet.

Call me if makes the Sports Reporters, Mitch Albom excluded.
I agree with their penchant for over-exaggeration. I was more amazed it was the lead story, since I have never seen any hockey story (including teams winning the Cup) ever lead the show in its 7+ years.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 06, 2009, 09:29:23 pm
do the pens always play that much ozzy over the PA between plays?!?  other than organ, the only non-ozzy i heard during the first 2 periods was dio's holy diver.  rock on, pittsburg.  pens definitely playing the better game.

how annoying is versus' "don't miss a single second" ad campaign... how about SHOWING every second?!?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 06, 2009, 10:20:54 pm
The panic on the streets of Hockeytown looks to be spreading to Beantown. Watch out, Swine Flu!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 06, 2009, 10:26:48 pm
The panic on the streets of Hockeytown looks to be spreading to Beantown. Watch out, Swine Flu!

its ok, we're both the higher seed, still just need to steal one road game and hold at home....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 06, 2009, 10:54:21 pm
Yea
The panic on the streets of Hockeytown looks to be spreading to Beantown. Watch out, Swine Flu!

its ok, we're both the higher seed, still just need to steal one road game and hold at home....
Yeah, but I don't think either of us want to lose the next game or we'll get really difficult to live with.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 07, 2009, 08:27:12 am
i thought for sure the caps were going to steal a game that they were soundly out played in. wu letang crew to the rescue. thank god malkin woke up
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on May 07, 2009, 08:53:28 am
Penalty minutes: Caps - 12:51, Pens - 2:38 .... No more whining from the 'burgh.

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 07, 2009, 08:59:00 am
Penalty minutes: Caps - 12:51, Pens - 2:38 .... No more whining from the 'burgh.




why not, it seems to work!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 07, 2009, 09:13:13 am
hahaha...caps have combated supposed whining from the pens...by whining. priceless

a good way to take fewer penalties is to not get outplayed
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 07, 2009, 09:30:11 am
Yeah, but I don't think either of us want to lose the next game or we'll get really difficult to live with.

"even more difficult".

a good way to take fewer penalties is to not get outplayed

or having even-handed refs.

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Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 07, 2009, 10:07:00 am
Yeah, but I don't think either of us want to lose the next game or we'll get really difficult to live with.
"even more difficult".

I can't speak for Sonick, but I'm an absolute delight most of the time.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 07, 2009, 12:06:38 pm
hahaha...caps have combated supposed whining from the pens...by whining. priceless

a good way to take fewer penalties is to not get outplayed


note to Caps fans: More penalty minutes usually equals being outplayed, not the refs appealing to post game griping.

I noticed last night that every time Carolina was called for a penalty the fans chanted "ref you suck", same thing that happens in D.C.   Its just showing your ignorance for the game.

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 07, 2009, 12:09:33 pm
Oh snap!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 07, 2009, 12:30:15 pm
Caps got totally outworked and outplayed last night.  A heroic effort by Varlamov but not enough to steal it. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 07, 2009, 03:22:08 pm
Yet one more one goal home team win.  Series is right where it should be at this point.  No one is really ahead in a series until someone wins a road game.  Will we see the 4th one goal home team win tomorrow night?  That remains to be seen.  I just wish Alex would learn some class and respect for the game he is so skilled at.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 07, 2009, 03:31:39 pm
I just wish Alex would learn some class and respect for the game he is so skilled at.

how is OV "classless"?  i don't get it, sounds like an empty insult. 

he lacks "airness" too, fyi :)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Driveway on May 07, 2009, 03:32:48 pm
I just wish Alex would learn some class and respect for the game he is so skilled at.

Look at that!  We've got our very on Don Cherry in the house!!!!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 07, 2009, 04:06:09 pm
I just wish Alex would learn some class and respect for the game he is so skilled at.

how is OV "classless"?  i don't get it, sounds like an empty insult. 

he lacks "airness" too, fyi :)
I asked him the same thing the other day when has said OV had no class and no respect for the game.

I never got an answer.

But he saw The Beatles so I guess he doesn't have to.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 07, 2009, 05:49:00 pm
FYI - the NHL Network is picking up Sunday's Anaheim-Detroit game, which, until this announcement, was only going to be available in SoCal and the Detroit area, or those with the Center Ice Package.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 07, 2009, 06:20:15 pm
FYI - the NHL Network is picking up Sunday's Anaheim-Detroit game, which, until this announcement, was only going to be available in SoCal and the Detroit area, or those with the Center Ice Package.
Nice! I have center ice, but they really haven't shown any games in HD during the playoffs, so this is an upgrade.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 07, 2009, 06:51:31 pm
Nice! I have center ice, but they really haven't shown any games in HD during the playoffs, so this is an upgrade.

Not to mention the NHL Network's HD signal is broadcast in 1080, not 720 like the Fox Regional Sports Network.  It makes a huge difference in Hockey and other fast moving sports.

This is good for mankind.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on May 07, 2009, 09:01:36 pm
Stay classy, Pens fans.  (http://www.nbcwashington.com/sports/hockey/Ovies-Life-Threatened.html)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 07, 2009, 09:28:53 pm
Not to mention the NHL Network's HD signal is broadcast in 1080, not 720 like the Fox Regional Sports Network.  It makes a huge difference in Hockey and other fast moving sports.

This is good for mankind.
True, although I do love my FSN Detroit announcers, so it's a fair trade-off in my opinion. But I completely agree with the benefits of 1080 coming to the forefront in hockey.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 07, 2009, 09:46:21 pm
Stay classy, Pens fans.  (http://www.nbcwashington.com/sports/hockey/Ovies-Life-Threatened.html)
To be fair, this is just one stupid 17 year old kid.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 07, 2009, 09:49:03 pm
"Ovechkin was seen walking of the team's hotel Thursday afternoon and appeared to be fine."

This statement just reeks of The Onion. Was it really necessary to tell us this? As though if he had been killed or was missing you'd bury the lead all the way to paragraph 6 of the article lol.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 07, 2009, 10:14:49 pm
FYI - the NHL Network is picking up Sunday's Anaheim-Detroit game, which, until this announcement, was only going to be available in SoCal and the Detroit area, or those with the Center Ice Package.
Nice! I have center ice, but they really haven't shown any games in HD during the playoffs, so this is an upgrade.

  Do you have Comcast or DirecTV? As i've probably said before, Dish Network has had 95% of their playoff games in HD (i think the NJ games werent).  Probably the only advantage with Dish, but it works out well for me since the Bruins and Vs. must have some agreement about never showing their games.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 07, 2009, 10:19:04 pm
I have Verizon Fios. They only have one GameHD station, and the same set of stations is used for Center Ice and Extra Innings, and baseball has been on the high-def station the last few weeks. Everytime I flip over to Center Ice 1 (the one with the list of games for the day) it hasn't listed any playoff games, except one in the first round, as being in HD.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 07, 2009, 10:44:07 pm
Stay classy, Pens fans.  (http://www.nbcwashington.com/sports/hockey/Ovies-Life-Threatened.html)
To be fair, this is just one stupid 17 year old kid.
on a messageboard
http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nhl_experts__30/ept_sports_nhl_experts-72168549-1241727803.jpg?ym7cNOBDXwVkFZ8N
apparently some other kid on a caps board found it and reported it. maybe the most extreme message board flame war ive seen
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 08, 2009, 01:10:50 am
Those of us of the Detroit ilk can breathe alittle easier... at least until a massive Game 5 in about 64 hours.

Hiller finally looked human for once. We'll see if Wisnewski or Rafalski can come back for game 5... probably neither though.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 08, 2009, 08:35:25 am
FYI - the NHL Network is picking up Sunday's Anaheim-Detroit game, which, until this announcement, was only going to be available in SoCal and the Detroit area, or those with the Center Ice Package.
Nice! I have center ice, but they really haven't shown any games in HD during the playoffs, so this is an upgrade.

  Do you have Comcast or DirecTV? As i've probably said before, Dish Network has had 95% of their playoff games in HD (i think the NJ games werent).  Probably the only advantage with Dish, but it works out well for me since the Bruins and Vs. must have some agreement about never showing their games.

  I spoke too soon! Tonight's Bruins / Canes game is only in HD for the Carolina feed, not the Boston one, so i now have the option of watching my Bruins homer announcers in SD or the Canes announcers in HD....what to do.....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 08, 2009, 10:18:35 am
"Ovechkin was seen walking of the team's hotel Thursday afternoon and appeared to be fine."

This statement just reeks of The Onion. Was it really necessary to tell us this? As though if he had been killed or was missing you'd bury the lead all the way to paragraph 6 of the article lol.

it's the next sentence that really gets me: "As if a little death threat would strike fear into the heart of the NHL's most-talented player."

since when are talent and fear correlated?  all the talent in the world isn't going to protect you from an idiot with a gun.  this "journalist" is a horrible writer.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 08, 2009, 10:31:49 am
the entire media coverage on this 'story' is absurd. i would have expected it from wpxi (who i think broke the story) but would have expected better from the dc media
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on May 08, 2009, 10:36:49 am
i now have the option of watching my Bruins homer announcers in SD or the Canes announcers in HD....what to do.....

stream the hometown radio online and watch the HD feed, it's not that hard to pause it and sync up the radio/TV to avoid lag-time... i do this for every georgetown game, it's pretty easy
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 08, 2009, 12:41:55 pm
Hiller finally looked human for once. We'll see if Wisnewski or Rafalski can come back for game 5... probably neither though.

I knew we were in trouble on the first goal when Hiller closed his pads to block 5 hole with his legs behind him and the puck, not deflected, rolled past the right side of his pads.  He's a butterfly goalie for christ's sake!  He was either tired or simply not focused to play last night.

The two days off presents Carlyle with a dilemma though.  If it was two days, I would almost guarantee Giggy in the net. With three days, I'm not sure what he's going to do.

Anaheim clearly missed Wisniewski, but credit to Babcock for making all the right changes (especially putting Hossa and Franzen together with Wis out).  Detroit's depth was really the difference last night, and Anaheim can't win if they have to rely on the first line to score all the goals.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 08, 2009, 12:46:25 pm
arent you going to complain about the officiating or something????  oh yeah, thats not you!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 08, 2009, 01:11:57 pm
  I spoke too soon! Tonight's Bruins / Canes game is only in HD for the Carolina feed, not the Boston one, so i now have the option of watching my Bruins homer announcers in SD or the Canes announcers in HD....what to do.....

DirecTV added a second channel to broadcast the Versus games that aren't being showed should the early game go to Overtime.  Versus main channel is 603, Versus alternate is channel 604.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 08, 2009, 01:15:06 pm
arent you going to complain about the officiating or something????  oh yeah, thats not you!

Exactly, if I wanted to complain about the officiating as if it mattered, I'd still be a fan of the NBA. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 08, 2009, 05:30:28 pm
arent you going to complain about the officiating or something????  oh yeah, thats not you!

Exactly, if I wanted to complain about the officiating as if it mattered, I'd still be a fan of the NBA. 
Hahaha.

Is Getzlaf hurt? He only played 3 minutes in the third period -- trying to save his energy since Anaheim is alittle "thinner" then Detroit when it comes to forwards, or legitimately tweaked?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 08, 2009, 06:02:10 pm
Kopecky is out for game 5. He got the shit rocked outta him in that fight. Draper/Rafalski also are "doubtful" according to Babcock. It's becoming really clear that Rafalski has a concussion and they're just not talking about it.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 08, 2009, 06:07:03 pm
Is Getzlaf hurt? He only played 3 minutes in the third period -- trying to save his energy since Anaheim is alittle "thinner" then Detroit when it comes to forwards, or legitimately tweaked?

Apparently he was suffering from flu like symptoms.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 09, 2009, 12:03:00 am
Shocked at what's going on with Bos/Car.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 09, 2009, 12:14:06 am
Shocked at what's going on with Bos/Car.

not me, we're a young young team that had no business even being in the playoffs as far as preseason rankings were concerned.

  they have to get Lucic off the Savard/Kessel line.  not sure who they put on there, but he's not getting it done.  at least someone even noticed Bos/Car were playing!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 09, 2009, 12:45:18 am
Still the Pens/Caps series is right where it is scripted to be.  Four games, all won by the home team.  Grand total of goal is +1 for the Pens.  Its funny how the Caps didn't whine about back to back games while they were up 2-0 but now all of a sudden its a horrid thing.  As I said earlier, a series doesn't really start until a road team wins a game.  I guess all that sweep talk was a tad premature.  My preidction for Saturday's game, whoever scores the fourth goal will win the game.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 09, 2009, 09:53:29 pm
Now we have a series.  The first road win of the match up comes in game number five.  Can the boys from DC make another come back and win out?  We shall see!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 10, 2009, 07:52:54 pm
3-2 isn't a series, and both of these teams are talented enough to come back from 3-2 down, but man, I'm glad the Wings are up 3-2 instead of down 3-2!! I can sleep easy until Tuesday.

LOVING the predicted final four with Detroit/Chicago and Carolina/Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 10, 2009, 11:09:39 pm
3-2 isn't a series, and both of these teams are talented enough to come back from 3-2 down, but man, I'm glad the Wings are up 3-2 instead of down 3-2!! I can sleep easy until Tuesday.

LOVING the predicted final four with Detroit/Chicago and Carolina/Pittsburgh.


 now why would Carolina / Pittsburgh be betting than Boston / Pittsburgh????   btw, Carolina got all out smoked tonight. i hope the Bruins are out of hibernation.

 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2009, 08:20:15 am
hm, i took ratbastards quote to say "now we have a (really compelling) series" rather than "now the pens have the series won" but in any event, it is certainly not over

however i like what i saw the past 3 games. other than gonchar's injury
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 11, 2009, 08:35:25 am
hm, i took ratbastards quote to say "now we have a (really compelling) series" rather than "now the pens have the series won" but in any event, it is certainly not over

  i thnk thats how he meant it.  which i find funny, that its not a series until his team is up. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2009, 08:51:49 am
would have been a better post after game 4, but everyone has their homer glasses on now
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 11, 2009, 08:56:52 am
i have my evil Pittsburgh glasses on tonight!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2009, 09:08:54 am
i can understand the caps fans (old and new) hating the pens, heck any teams fans hating the pens, but the way fat ted has tried to fuel the rivalry is hilarious 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 11, 2009, 09:12:54 am
So then exactly what is it about Alex that makes you say he has no class or respect for the game? 

hmmmm.....

http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2009/05/08/ovechkin-goes-knee-to-knee-on-gonchar

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 11, 2009, 09:17:09 am
So then exactly what is it about Alex that makes you say he has no class or respect for the game? 

hmmmm.....

http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2009/05/08/ovechkin-goes-knee-to-knee-on-gonchar
 
yet in the same article: "it's worth noting that Ovechkin has no history of being a dirty player. This is an exception to the rule."
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 11, 2009, 09:24:40 am
So then exactly what is it about Alex that makes you say he has no class or respect for the game? 

hmmmm.....

http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2009/05/08/ovechkin-goes-knee-to-knee-on-gonchar
 
yet in the same article: "it's worth noting that Ovechkin has no history of being a dirty player. This is an exception to the rule."

  Ovechkin is too good a skater to be accidentally doing shit like that. I am not saying he went out to injure Gonchar.  But i played hockey for 6 years and no one shit like that only happens to poor skaters. Maybe he just got excited, i think he was being careless. but not like the league would suspend him even if it was reckless

  (and fyi, sweets, i didnt read the article, just watched the video)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2009, 09:27:16 am
theres a fine line between being a dirty player and being a reckless hitter. ovie certainly has that reputation
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 11, 2009, 09:33:39 am
i completely agree that it was a reckless hit and certainly no accident.  ovie is lucky he got away as lightly as he did.

i'm just not sure this incident proves the case of his "classlessness", that's all.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 11, 2009, 09:52:27 am
i completely agree that it was a reckless hit and certainly no accident.  ovie is lucky he got away as lightly as he did.

i'm just not sure this incident proves the case of his "classlessness", that's all.

  just seemed like the most appropriate post to reply to.  i never claimed to be some expert in who has class and who doesnt. people who do that have no class. ;)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2009, 10:03:31 am
seriously, its hockey. bob pollard could play left wing for the caps and i'd find a reason to hate him

i would think ovie's slightly sinister edge is part of his appeal if hes on your team. who cares if hes "classy"
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 11, 2009, 10:27:21 am
now why would Carolina / Pittsburgh be betting than Boston / Pittsburgh????  
If you're asking why I'd prefer Carolina over Boston in the ECF, it's simple: Chicago, Carolina, and Pittsburgh can't carry Detroit's jockstraps, much less win more than 1 game against them. Boston can. :)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 11, 2009, 10:30:00 am
So then exactly what is it about Alex that makes you say he has no class or respect for the game? 

hmmmm.....

http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2009/05/08/ovechkin-goes-knee-to-knee-on-gonchar


I think this hit was way overblown, worthy of the 2 minute minor he received, but barely.  I don't think he was intentionally going for the knee at all.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 11, 2009, 10:36:01 am
I think this hit was way overblown, worthy of the 2 minute minor he received, but barely.  I don't think he was intentionally going for the knee at all.
I concur. It looks to me like Gonchar tried to move away from the hit, but only shifted his upper body forward. I don't believe for one second that Ovechkin was trying to clip his knee.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2009, 10:39:43 am
its a moot point, he wasnt going to get suspended even if it was intentional (not that the rule allows for that) and the pens won the game anyway. useless to complain about be it today or saturday morning. still sucks for the pens that gonchar's out
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 11, 2009, 11:42:03 am
I think this hit was way overblown, worthy of the 2 minute minor he received, but barely.  I don't think he was intentionally going for the knee at all.
I concur. It looks to me like Gonchar tried to move away from the hit, but only shifted his upper body forward. I don't believe for one second that Ovechkin was trying to clip his knee.

have you ever played hockey?  its the oldest trick in the book.  kids 12 years old pull that shit. lift your leg off the ice so you can absorb the hit, the guy who still has his foot planted gets the brunt of it.

 i'm not saying it doesnt happen 10 times in every game, but its still a shitty play and when someone gets hurt from it, its bring attention to it.   

  wasnt as shitty as this play though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgUaKcCB14Y

 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 11, 2009, 12:00:13 pm
Ovechkin knew exactly what he was doing.  Sonick is right - every player on the ice knows how dangerous that play is - if they didn't there would be a lot more injuries like Gonchar's.  But Godshoeshine is right - he was never going to get suspended anyway so it's not worth arguing.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 11, 2009, 12:11:09 pm
3-2 isn't a series, and both of these teams are talented enough to come back from 3-2 down, but man, I'm glad the Wings are up 3-2 instead of down 3-2!! I can sleep easy until Tuesday.

I have a tough time seeing Anaheim winning game 6, let alone game 7.  There was no sense of urgency at all and we are too young to deal with a team like Detroit.  Where Detroit has a lot of late twenty something's, Anaheim is either mid-Thirties or early 20's - there's very little in between.   Anaheim is so dependent on it's first line that any bump in that line and they're very average. 

There is a lot to take from this season though.  I saw a lot from those early 20 something's this season, and with a few cagey front office moves to replace the elder statesman, especially on defense, we'll be back.  And soon.   
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 11, 2009, 01:04:44 pm
hm, i took ratbastards quote to say "now we have a (really compelling) series" rather than "now the pens have the series won" but in any event, it is certainly not over

however i like what i saw the past 3 games. other than gonchar's injury


Exactly.  As I aid before, a series doesn't start until a road team wins.  The onus is squarely on the shoulders of the guys in red.  Can they do it?  They have before and from a deeper hole.  Looks like either way we have some good hockey in our future.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 11, 2009, 01:05:31 pm
hm, i took ratbastards quote to say "now we have a (really compelling) series" rather than "now the pens have the series won" but in any event, it is certainly not over

  i thnk thats how he meant it.  which i find funny, that its not a series until his team is up. 


My team was out in the first round.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 11, 2009, 01:26:45 pm
hm, i took ratbastards quote to say "now we have a (really compelling) series" rather than "now the pens have the series won" but in any event, it is certainly not over

  i thnk thats how he meant it.  which i find funny, that its not a series until his team is up. 


My team was out in the first round.

 lol. i forgot.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 11, 2009, 02:43:50 pm
So then exactly what is it about Alex that makes you say he has no class or respect for the game? 

hmmmm.....

http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2009/05/08/ovechkin-goes-knee-to-knee-on-gonchar




Just watched that video for the first time.  All I can say is that if that was not one of the NHLs golden kids, the player would have been suspended several games.  Anyone who has played the game knows how cheap and intentional that shot was.  Deliberate intent to injure.  All I can say is what I have said before.  Karma is a bitch.  Sooner or later someone will clock that classless bastard and he will be laying on the ice out like a light.  Maybe then he will get a little class, maybe.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Driveway on May 11, 2009, 03:08:41 pm
You are out of your mind.  Gonchar attempted to miss the hit.  In the process he stuck his knee out.  It's his own fault. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 11, 2009, 03:32:13 pm
You are out of your mind.  Gonchar attempted to miss the hit.  In the process he stuck his knee out.  It's his own fault. 

That's a new one for me.  I have yet to hear any one argue that Ovechkin didn't deserve the 2 minute kneeing minor that he received.  Probably because it's such an absurd argument.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 11, 2009, 03:44:00 pm
You are out of your mind.  Gonchar attempted to miss the hit.  In the process he stuck his knee out.  It's his own fault. 

That's a new one for me.  I have yet to hear any one argue that Ovechkin didn't deserve the 2 minute kneeing minor that he received.  Probably because it's such an absurd argument.

 gonchar should have gotten 2 minutes for diving!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2009, 03:46:37 pm
the nerve gonchar has, trying to avoid a cheap shot of passion from ovie. totally deserved it
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 11, 2009, 03:47:18 pm
sonick made me lol!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 11, 2009, 09:45:39 pm
sudden death for the caps!!!!

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 11, 2009, 09:58:14 pm
6 games
5 goals by the caps tonight
4 home team wins
3 over times
2 road team wins
1 hell of a series
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 11, 2009, 10:05:07 pm
you should work for Versus.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 11, 2009, 10:12:19 pm
And a partridge in a pear tree!

Oh, wait, nvm.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 11, 2009, 10:16:04 pm
by the way, we're down to 99,600 seconds.....as of the beginning of the 2nd period in Chicago
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 11, 2009, 10:26:15 pm
anyone have any comments on the Scott Walker sucker punch now that we're talking dirty plays?

   Surely Lucic or Brashear would be suspended. Is this me being a Homer or what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynS7OUUCLx8
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 12, 2009, 12:50:58 am
That punch looked pretty damn bad.  The Bruins player was about dumb as a post for allowing that to happen.  He started the scrum punched #8 on the Canes and then just stood there.  I don't think it rises to the level of a suspension even so. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 12, 2009, 08:13:14 am
6 games
5 goals by the caps tonight
4 home team wins
3 over times
2 road team wins
1 hell of a series
Incredible game last night...I almost had a heart attack about 5 times.  Great series too.  Now I just have to find my way into game 7 without breaking the bank.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 12, 2009, 08:34:16 am
i know its a great series
i know its only right it should go 7

still sucks
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 12, 2009, 09:04:40 am
That punch looked pretty damn bad.  The Bruins player was about dumb as a post for allowing that to happen.  He started the scrum punched #8 on the Canes and then just stood there.  I don't think it rises to the level of a suspension even so. 

  the NHL rulebook states that if you receive an 5 minute instigator penalty in the last 5 minutes of a game, it is an automatic one game suspension. 

  no matter what one thinks of the punch. the NHL office completely contradicted the official on the ice.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on May 12, 2009, 10:26:27 am
Now I just have to find my way into game 7 without breaking the bank.

what're your thoughts on this?

i found great seats on the upper deck red line for $100 each for game 7 of the rangers series... craigslist is looking like it might take double that to get similar seats

i'm thinking about just going down to the arena and scalping the night of
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 12, 2009, 11:13:34 am
Now I just have to find my way into game 7 without breaking the bank.

what're your thoughts on this?

i found great seats on the upper deck red line for $100 each for game 7 of the rangers series... craigslist is looking like it might take double that to get similar seats

i'm thinking about just going down to the arena and scalping the night of
Yeah, prices are about $200 right now for 400 level seats...too much for me.  I got into game 7 against the Rangers for $100.  I'd thought about going down to that game and seeing what I could dig up, but I didn't see a single person selling tickets.  TONS of people looking though.  Granted, I wasn't really looking cuz I had my seats, but there were an awful lot of people with their fingers in the air looking for seats.

If you strike out at the arena, there's a few decent places close by to watch the game though.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 12, 2009, 11:36:37 am
pens/caps series doing monster ratings (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/11/AR2009051103127.html?sub=AR)
Quote
FSN Pittsburgh earned a massive 21.38 rating for Saturday's Game 5, the highest-rated NHL game on any FSN regional sports network. Versus recorded a 1.2 rating during its national telecast of Game 2, making that the highest-rated and most-watched second-round game on cable since 2002.
nhl stoked
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 12, 2009, 11:50:40 am
anyone have any comments on the Scott Walker sucker punch now that we're talking dirty plays?

   Surely Lucic or Brashear would be suspended. Is this me being a Homer or what?

That replay doesn't show it but he was also the third man in too.  Ward was locked into a scrum with Cullen when Walker got there.  That's why Ward was just standing there - he was already battling with Cullen and didn't think he had to watch out for a haymaker from Walker.

I'm shocked they rescinded it.  I was watching it live and thought for sure he was going to miss the next game - I even told Smackette how stupid that was because they could avoid a game 7 and they need him.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 12, 2009, 12:40:00 pm
pens/caps series doing monster ratings (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/11/AR2009051103127.html?sub=AR)
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FSN Pittsburgh earned a massive 21.38 rating for Saturday's Game 5, the highest-rated NHL game on any FSN regional sports network. Versus recorded a 1.2 rating during its national telecast of Game 2, making that the highest-rated and most-watched second-round game on cable since 2002.
nhl stoked

Sadly it's all about Ovie, I wish we had someone similar to Crosby for Malkin, or vice versa. I've always considered Semin Ovie's right hand man. Honestly though it should be "Varly & The Capitals take on Sid and the Pens"

He's the only reason we haven't gotten 15 goals scored on us in 3 games and lost the series last night or sooner.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 12, 2009, 12:53:33 pm
Semin has great puck handling skills and he skates well, but Crosby just skates so low and hard.  If Semin could toughen up, he could be a sort of "Crosby lite", but he's just not that strong.  Maybe he'll get stronger and tougher as his career moves on and opposing players will leave him alone a little more.  Cuz now they just bash on him and then he gets pissed and takes bad penalties.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 12, 2009, 01:52:55 pm
i think if the caps improve their defenseman (i know green is hurt) that will go a long way toward making them a better team
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 12, 2009, 05:21:18 pm
I predict that whoever wins the next game will win the series!  (My tribute to John Madden)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 12, 2009, 05:31:33 pm
I predict that whoever wins the next game will win the series!  (My tribute to John Madden)

funny :)

how about: "what is boils down to is that it's a must-win situation for both teams".
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 12, 2009, 05:37:14 pm
What's more, I think the game is going to come down to offense. Specifically, I think the team that is able to score more goals than the other one will win the series.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 12, 2009, 05:45:55 pm
I dunno...I think defense will decide this contest.  Whichever goalie allows the fewest to get in will come out on top.  That's my prediction.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 12, 2009, 08:05:00 pm
They just showed the video again of the Walker haymaker at Ward and I just realized that Ward still had his gloves on.   You don't punch a man with his gloves on.  Chicken shit - he shouldn't be out there.

And with that, I'm going to go lock myself up in my room and wait for game 6.

With a 6 pack. 

And maybe a bottle of whiskey.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 12, 2009, 08:39:42 pm
That's my prediction.
That's not a prediction. That's expert analysis.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 12, 2009, 10:26:28 pm
I predict that the first team to win 16 playoff games will win the cup!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 12, 2009, 11:51:33 pm
I predict that whoever wins the last playoff game of the year will go on to win the cup.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2009, 12:48:52 am
Anybody up for a little Bro Hymn Tribute? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owoAZTPIoNQ)

Apparently Getzlaf is feeling better and so are the Ducks.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2009, 12:53:12 pm
apparently gonchar participated in the morning skate, and rumors are he will play tonight

hope so
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 13, 2009, 01:32:09 pm
Heres a great article. I still cant figure out how that punch doesnt get you a game suspension but "sloppy-seconds" - oh god forbid. with the way the nhl is making these calls, i suspect to see a lot more steve moore vs bertuzzi  in courts.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jim_kelley/05/12/walker.decision/index.html

They just showed the video again of the Walker haymaker at Ward and I just realized that Ward still had his gloves on.   You don't punch a man with his gloves on.  Chicken shit - he shouldn't be out there.

And with that, I'm going to go lock myself up in my room and wait for game 6.

With a 6 pack. 

And maybe a bottle of whiskey.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 13, 2009, 03:14:09 pm
a long-shot question: can anyone recommend a bar to watch hockey in NYC?  preferably one where i could hear the commentary?  i watched the games last night at a place with gorgeous hi-def screens, but had to endure top-40 hitz over the PA.  ugh.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 13, 2009, 03:21:06 pm
my "game 7" conspiracy theory: the nhl is creating game 7's for the ratings & ticket sales.

detroit looked impotent last night.  the bruins have suddenly woken up and are playing they should have all along.  the crosby vs ovechkin script pretty much called for a game 7.  my conspiracy theory is that the league told the teams to split the first 6 and fight it out on (and only on) game 7.  how many millions will be watching hockey tonight and tomorrow night? 

the league engineered this. 

and i'm grateful for it :D

edit: since this is now bottom of the previous page, here goes again: can anyone recommend a bar to watch hockey in NYC?  preferably one where i could hear the commentary?  i watched the games last night at a place with gorgeous hi-def screens, but had to endure top-40 hitz over the PA.  ugh.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2009, 03:35:46 pm
I'm sure xneverwherex can help you find a place.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2009, 03:41:08 pm
http://www.meetup.com/penguins/venue/?eventId=10390915&popup=true&venueId=781445
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 13, 2009, 04:07:40 pm
i know of a lot of bars where you could see the game - but theres usually music or something going on. the bar across the street from where i am would prob put on a game with sound. its very much a local irish bar, but theyre all super friendly and usually put on anything. its on 50th & 10th - bar is Druids. Theres one next door - where its guaranteed to be showing 1-2-3 burger/shot/beer (i think is the official name of it) and they show all sports. also on 50th at 9th hibernia shows lots of games. i think they sometimes have the volume on there. i usually watch it from outside as im walking home.

but that meetup might be your best bet - as they prob have the volume definitely on there. if youre really having no luck - ill have it on later when i get home and you can always swing on by. just call me if you wanna do that.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 13, 2009, 04:25:06 pm
thanks for the suggestions.  that pens meetup is conveniently located since i'll be on the east side of midtown... hopefully the pen fans won't mind me cheering for the caps :D  hum, wonder if i packed any red t-shirts.  GO CAPS GO!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 13, 2009, 04:27:42 pm
on that note - you can definitely not come over :)

thanks for the suggestions.  that pens meetup is conveniently located since i'll be on the east side of midtown... hopefully the pen fans won't mind me cheering for the caps :D  hum, wonder if i packed any red t-shirts.  GO CAPS GO!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2009, 04:42:22 pm
i posted that just to be a jerk
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 13, 2009, 04:45:01 pm
So anyone going to be at Verizon Center tonight?????
I'll be there...can't wait to get out of here!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 13, 2009, 04:50:26 pm
i posted that just to be a jerk

i suspected as much, definitely made me LOL.  but thinking about it, i'd rather be surrounded by hockey fans of some stripe than of indifferent drunks who happen to be in a sports bar.  and i really want commentary and the ability to hear the crowd inside verizon.

if i don't report back tomorrow morning, please send a search team to the alley behind 18 W 33rd St :D

chaz: i WISH i was at verizon tonight.  place will be insane.  enjoy the party!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2009, 05:02:46 pm
If I had an interest in a game 7, I couldn't imagine being around anybody.  I need to lock myself up for pretty much the duration of the Ducks playoffs and most certainly for a game 7. 

I tend to watch most game 7's by myself, although I do invite folks to join me if the Ducks aren't playing.  If the Ducks are playing though, you can forget about me being in public.  I take this shit way too seriously to be around anybody who does not (and more importantly, does not know me).

I'm difficult enough to meet for the first time when my teams aren't playing, you can forget about meeting me for the first time when my teams are in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2009, 05:05:21 pm
haha, glad you liked it, sweetcell

i passed on going to my buddy's house because i think i will be completely insufferable tonight. he's even a pens fan
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 13, 2009, 05:07:46 pm
If I had an interest in a game 7, I couldn't imagine being around anybody.  I need to lock myself up for pretty much the duration of the Ducks playoffs and most certainly for a game 7. 

I tend to watch most game 7's by myself, although I do invite folks to join me if the Ducks aren't playing.  If the Ducks are playing though, you can forget about me being in public.  I take this shit way too seriously to be around anybody who does not (and more importantly, does not know me).

I'm difficult enough to meet for the first time when my teams aren't playing, you can forget about meeting me for the first time when my teams are in the playoffs.
Change Ducks to Red Wings and you pretty much have me. Taylor leaves or locks herself in the bedroom.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2009, 05:10:38 pm
Haha.  Smackette left for some spa in Santa Cruz this afternoon.  I won't see her until after the Ducks game tomorrow night.

If she has to suffer for my craziness, she at least wants to do it in style....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 13, 2009, 05:19:39 pm
Current ESPN poll...

Which road team is most likely to win game 7?

Ducks 17%
Hurricanes 20% (my selection)
Pens 63%
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 13, 2009, 05:21:04 pm
BTW Good Luck to all you Caps fans tonight.  Even though I am not exactly the biggest Ovechkin fan in the world, my team is now out.  Hope y'all have reason to celebrate tonight.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2009, 05:25:26 pm
Current Vansmack Poll....

Which team will win each of the game 7's?

Pittsburgh (in OT) 4-3
Boston 3-1 (empty netter)
Detroit 2-1 (late third period goal)


Obviously, I'd be happy to be wrong about one of those, or even all of them.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 13, 2009, 05:29:19 pm
Detroit 2-1 (late third period goal)
If its close, Anaheim will win it. If it's a rout, it's a Detroit victory.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 13, 2009, 05:34:24 pm
Look for an empty netter or OT in each game.  Kind of goes w/o saying.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2009, 06:22:56 pm
BTW Good Luck to all you Caps fans tonight....Hope y'all have reason to celebrate tonight.


And good luck to you godshoeshine, venerable bede and the rest of the pens fans on the board.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 13, 2009, 07:22:54 pm
i know its late for Caps/Pens fans but smackie and julian might want to try it.

  listen to a 2Pac album in its entirety before the game tomorrow.

the last 2 times the b's were in Game 7's i did not listen to a 2Pac album, and they lost. so i figure that must be the problem.

 hey, it cant hurt....i mean, its 2Pac.

 (btw, i think its amazing that so many of the boards favourite teams are in game 7's today and tomorrow...cept for xneverwherex and sweetie...who is your team anyway????)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on May 13, 2009, 08:25:57 pm
This is probably the most pathetic display of hockey I've seen since my final game in high school.

NOBODY MAKES THE TEAM NEXT YEAR!!!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 13, 2009, 08:31:33 pm
ouch. i am not watching, but man, 5-0?? das ugly.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2009, 09:38:58 pm
chaz: i WISH i was at verizon tonight.  place will be insane.  enjoy the party!

Really?

The only thing insane was the Caps passing and aptitude for turning the puck over.

And the only people partying were wearing Black, and on the rare occasion of hipness, powder blue.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 13, 2009, 11:12:47 pm
worse party, ever?

i'm not angry that the caps lost - a little disappointed, but someone has to lose - no, i'm angry because i was denied a good game.  washington didn't show up tonight.  i planned my evening around this game - left work early, skipped my much-needed run, trekked to an unknown bar, tried to keep my anticipation under control... and half the equation shat the bed.  this game had no emotion to it.  i walked away from last year's game 7 very satisfied: caps lost, but they put up a good fight and it was an interesting game.  tonight, i want my 3 hours back.

(btw, i think its amazing that so many of the boards favourite teams are in game 7's today and tomorrow...cept for xneverwherex and sweetie...who is your team anyway????)

i grew up a habs fan (vs. the nordique fans, of which there were a lot too).  senators came to town just as i was finishing up high school & leaving for university, i wanted to be in to the new local team but (1) it was impossible to get ticket for those first 2 seasons, and (2) they sucked.  other than montreal, i like what the devils have done in the past decade so they're my #2.  i'll root for the caps if they aren't playing my #1 or #2, because of my affiliation with the city.  and like many other canuckistanis, i'll root for any team from north of the border in the playoffs, out of some misguided belief that someone - anyone - should "bring the cup home".  yes, i'm quite aware how silly that is.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 14, 2009, 01:29:04 am
Damn the Caps gave up in the 3rd, 100% gave up.  I saw so many times a guy standing still just lazily wave his stick at the puck as it went past him on the boards only for a Pens player to pick up the puck and carry it into the zone for a scoring chance.  Come on guys at least pretend you want to be there.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Staralfur25 on May 14, 2009, 02:53:19 am
go pens!!! make me money at work.   :-*
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 14, 2009, 06:43:59 am
I'm not sleeping at all tonight, but as I lay here in silence at 3:30 in the morning, I've almost convinced myself we can win tonight. Almost.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 14, 2009, 08:47:39 am
russian willis reed

great series, not so much on the game 7. bring on whoever
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 14, 2009, 09:53:36 am
Man, that was brutal last night.  Horrible.  Just horrible.  Awful way to end a great series and great season.  Totally agree with you sweetcell.  Awful to see them go out with barely a wimper like that.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 14, 2009, 10:24:50 am
have i bitched about the Bruins getting hosed by Versus picking the Det/Anaheim game over Boston/Carolina tonight?

I suppose if Boston wins, they'll pre-empt the eastern conference finals with the PBR!  oh wait, Versus won't even do that to Crosby.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 14, 2009, 10:48:27 am
you are correct, the christlike greatness of sidney crosby will out perform the grossness of the bastard child of boston sports
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 14, 2009, 10:50:13 am
have i bitched about the Bruins getting hosed by Versus picking the Det/Anaheim game over Boston/Carolina tonight?

I suppose if Boston wins, they'll pre-empt the eastern conference finals with the PBR!  oh wait, Versus won't even do that to Crosby.

don't be silly (or at least try :)).  det/ana starts at 7 pm, bos/car starts at 8 pm.  so the options are:

1) cover all of det/ana and join bos/car afterwards.  they're an hour behind so we'll get the crucial third period in beantown.
2) start det/ana, but switch at 8 to bos/car.  yeah, that's a great idea.
3) don't cover det/ana at all, have bull riding at 7, and start hockey at 8.  even better idea.

i seem to remember that you complained recently about music snobs have their heads stuck up their asses when i comes to complaining about mainstream music... et tu? ;)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: shemptiness on May 14, 2009, 11:05:09 am
Couldn't Versus put one game on the HD channel and the other on the non-HD Versus?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 11:08:20 am
Couldn't Versus put one game on the HD channel and the other on the non-HD Versus?
Many folks don't get HD.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 14, 2009, 11:17:35 am
Im a Kings fan but since they never had a chance - and wont have a chance for a damn long time - Im also a huge Hawks fan! The only other thing I wanted was for the Caps and Ducks to lose. So far its going ok.

Im hoping it ends with Bruins/Hawks at the finals!

i know its late for Caps/Pens fans but smackie and julian might want to try it.

  listen to a 2Pac album in its entirety before the game tomorrow.

the last 2 times the b's were in Game 7's i did not listen to a 2Pac album, and they lost. so i figure that must be the problem.

 hey, it cant hurt....i mean, its 2Pac.

 (btw, i think its amazing that so many of the boards favourite teams are in game 7's today and tomorrow...cept for xneverwherex and sweetie...who is your team anyway????)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 14, 2009, 11:29:16 am


i seem to remember that you complained recently about music snobs have their heads stuck up their asses when i comes to complaining about mainstream music... et tu? ;)

are you implying that the Bruins are the indie rock of the NHL?

my point in all of this was if you are going to show the game, show the fucking game. if you arent going to bother showing the whole thing. let someone else show it.

  (edit to this, I have just seen that NESN will cover this game. so now i'm  happy....i dont give two shits if its on versus, but if its not on at all, heads will roll)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 11:50:00 am
When I made my second round picks with some friends, I got openly mocked for picking Chicago over Vancouver, but looking back, that was the "easiest" matchup of the entire second round and the only one not to go 7 games. Who would've figured that?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 14, 2009, 11:57:21 am
  (edit to this, I have just seen that NESN will cover this game. so now i'm  happy....i dont give two shits if its on versus, but if its not on at all, heads will roll)

You are correct, both NESN and FSN Carolina will have the game tonight, and your real gripe should have been why didn't the NHL Network pick up the game, not why did versus choose ANA/DET over CAR/BOS.  After all, they are the last two Stanley Cup champions (and all the logical reasons Julian laid out).

Isn't a situation like this EXACTLY why you would have your own network?   
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 12:11:20 pm
(and all the logical reasons Julian laid out).
This might be the first time this has ever been posted in this hallowed forum.

Joke aside, even looking back, I can't figure out what I said.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 14, 2009, 12:15:36 pm
i noticed you and I were one of the few to pick Chicago in 6. (at least I think you were 6). Im still surprised theres so many game 7s.

When I made my second round picks with some friends, I got openly mocked for picking Chicago over Vancouver, but looking back, that was the "easiest" matchup of the entire second round and the only one not to go 7 games. Who would've figured that?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 14, 2009, 12:24:52 pm
This might be the first time this has ever been posted in this hallowed forum.

Joke aside, even looking back, I can't figure out what I said.

Don't go patting yourself on the back just yet.  I did take issue with your "Many people don't have HD" comment.

They are no friend of mine and certainly not serious hockey fans.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 14, 2009, 12:26:28 pm
hahaha

actually one of the biggest hockey fans i know doesnt have hd. and i cant figure out why
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 12:26:36 pm
I guess I also don't see where you took issue with my "many people don't have HD" comment.  :D And I don't see how you could. Many people (more than a few) don't have HD. I'm not condoning it, but its a reality.

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 14, 2009, 12:40:33 pm
(and all the logical reasons Julian laid out).
This might be the first time this has ever been posted in this hallowed forum.

Joke aside, even looking back, I can't figure out what I said.

i can't figure it out either - smackie, what are these logical reasons?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 14, 2009, 12:41:31 pm
i think he confused a cellie post with a jules post
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 14, 2009, 01:06:08 pm
i think he confused a cellie post with a jules post

You are correct.  Julian is as illogical as he's always been.

I need to not be in public today, really.  It's 10AM, I need a drink, feel like I'm going to puke and the opening faceoff is still 6 hours away....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 01:08:39 pm
Hey, totally off-topic, I know, but  since Smackie and Cell are both in this thread regularly and I figure they'd be the only two to remember: when is Weblebrity Is A Bitch day? Did we miss it already?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 14, 2009, 01:17:54 pm
i think he confused a cellie post with a jules post

You are correct.  Julian is as illogical as he's always been.

I need to not be in public today, really.  It's 10AM, I need a drink, feel like I'm going to puke and the opening faceoff is still 6 hours away....
that was me yesterday. i put everything in my lunch box except my sandwich :(
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 14, 2009, 01:18:10 pm
Hey, totally off-topic, I know, but  since Smackie and Cell are both in this thread regularly and I figure they'd be the only two to remember: when is Weblebrity Is A Bitch day? Did we miss it already?

June 17 (http://www.930.com/forum/index.php?topic=1512.msg23125#msg23125)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 14, 2009, 01:45:23 pm
i think he confused a cellie post with a jules post

You are correct.  Julian is as illogical as he's always been.

I need to not be in public today, really.  It's 10AM, I need a drink, feel like I'm going to puke and the opening faceoff is still 6 hours away....

smax, do you own a video camera?  if so, please consider taking it out of the bedroom, setting it up by your television, pointing it at your couch/general viewing area, and recording your "performance" during the game.  i have no doubt that the entertainment value of watching your reactions and commentary during this game will be priceless.  i would pay good money to see this.

Hey, totally off-topic, I know, but  since Smackie and Cell are both in this thread regularly and I figure they'd be the only two to remember: when is Weblebrity Is A Bitch day? Did we miss it already?

June 17 (http://www.930.com/forum/index.php?topic=1512.msg23125#msg23125)

i'm so ADD - i totally forgot about this.  luckily it's in my outlook calendar, and would have popped up that morning despite my inability to remember it.

thanks for the reminder.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 14, 2009, 01:51:52 pm
i think he confused a cellie post with a jules post

You are correct.  Julian is as illogical as he's always been.

I need to not be in public today, really.  It's 10AM, I need a drink, feel like I'm going to puke and the opening faceoff is still 6 hours away....

you make me look sane. I am chillin over here. though i have a Physics class this evening from 5-8 which will probably seem like 18 hours.....somehow i feel like the Bruins/Canes game will be decided in the first period.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 14, 2009, 02:19:52 pm
you make me look sane. I am chillin over here. though i have a Physics class this evening from 5-8 which will probably seem like 18 hours.....somehow i feel like the Bruins/Canes game will be decided in the first period.

You have a home game.  I'd feel much better if Anaheim were at home. 

I've also maintained that the winner of this game will be the Stanley Cup Champion so I'm treating this as a Stanley Cup Final game and not a Conference Semifinal.  Not an excuse for my behavior, but just throwing that out there for clarification's sake.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 02:52:52 pm
I went to work for exactly 30 minutes then announced to no one in particular that I couldn't work under these circumstances and went home. I have jogged 10 miles and made an excel spreadsheet of all my CDs with artist, title, year, and record label. And I own close to a thousand CDs. The misses is staying at her parents tonite, she doesn't even plan on coming home after work.

Its like crack, I tell you.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 02:54:10 pm
Also, I think home ice is nothing in this game 7. I worry the wings will think, oh it's at home, and come out lacadasical like they did in game 6 and won't start playing until down two goals which will cause me to drink all the stuff under the sink. I have actually looked up the poison control number, no joke.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 03:02:41 pm
i'm so ADD - i totally forgot about this.  luckily it's in my outlook calendar, and would have popped up that morning despite my inability to remember it.

thanks for the reminder.
Yeah, I thought of this last night and we really have to do this up right. It'd be so funny if somehow Miss P returned from her hiatus on that day only to find us going "happy day, bitch!" She'd storm off for another year, lol.

Aw, I kind of miss her now.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 14, 2009, 03:16:47 pm
julian is ON FIRE today.  those last two posts totally made me LOL.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 14, 2009, 03:44:08 pm
please set up a camera in your home. :) this would be great to see. Actually I worry that I am going to be flipping out if the Ducks win. I cant even fathom them winning as I fear if they get past the Wings they are taking home the cup. Anytime I watch a game, the team I want to win never does. So Im thinking I cant turn it on for awhile. Its worked for the Pens and the Hawks :)

Also, I think home ice is nothing in this game 7. I worry the wings will think, oh it's at home, and come out lacadasical like they did in game 6 and won't start playing until down two goals which will cause me to drink all the stuff under the sink. I have actually looked up the poison control number, no joke.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 14, 2009, 03:49:42 pm
man, i hope whoever wins the east pounds the west.

 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 14, 2009, 03:59:51 pm
my coworker said the same thing about 5 mins ago. Of course, hes still crushed the Caps lost and doesnt care much anymore who wins as long as its an east coast team.


man, i hope whoever wins the east pounds the west.

 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 14, 2009, 04:08:56 pm
Do you guys really think I'd give up the TV rights to my life that easily?

Please.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 04:12:54 pm
Do you guys really think I'd give up the TV rights to my life that easily?

Please.
Likewise. Julian's America may not work on a hipster messageboard, but it could single-handedly save HBO!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 14, 2009, 04:16:12 pm
I went to work for exactly 30 minutes then announced to no one in particular that I couldn't work under these circumstances and went home.

Yes, I just sat through my only required meeting today (which I tolerated by mostly posting here) and now I'm off to my (pretend) meetings which mean going home and pacing around the living room until 4PT.

See, a defined date makes it much easier.  Take the Champions League Final for example.  I'm already taking the day off and flying to The OC to watch the match with my brother in law.  Not knowing if there's going to be a game 7 does not allow me to properly prepare days, sometimes weeks in advance and it makes me the mess that I am today.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 14, 2009, 04:21:11 pm
And while we're at it, I want to publicly flog Venerable, who despite my well wishes for his team yesterday, just asked me some to defend some decision the Administration made on Economic Policy.

You can fuck off sir.  And now I'm openly rooting against the Pens the rest of way, despite my love for Kunitz, simply because of your lack of respect for what is really at issue today.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 14, 2009, 04:23:52 pm
I have jogged 10 miles

I watched almost the entire 2007 Stanley Cup Finals riding an exer-cycle that we bought specifically for the finals....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Venerable Bede on May 14, 2009, 04:49:24 pm
And while we're at it, I want to publicly flog Venerable, who despite my well wishes for his team yesterday, just asked me some to defend some decision the Administration made on Economic Policy.

You can fuck off sir.  And now I'm openly rooting against the Pens the rest of way, despite my love for Kunitz, simply because of your lack of respect for what is really at issue today.
i did apologize and wished ya good luck tonight. . .

i can only wonder the number of bruin fans that will come out of the woodwork if they beat the canes tonight. . .i mean, simmons is doing a live chat tonight during the game.....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 14, 2009, 04:50:16 pm
And while we're at it, I want to publicly flog Venerable, who despite my well wishes for his team yesterday, just asked me some to defend some decision the Administration made on Economic Policy.

You can fuck off sir.  And now I'm openly rooting against the Pens the rest of way, despite my love for Kunitz, simply because of your lack of respect for what is really at issue today.
do i have to start rooting for the wings now? and then possibly chicago? you disappoint me
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 14, 2009, 04:56:35 pm
do i have to start rooting for the wings now? and then possibly chicago? you disappoint me

I told you I shouldn't be out in public today. 

Venerable did apologize but I had already written what I had to say.  Apology accepted and I will continue to root for Chris Kunitz and the Pens, agaaaainst everybody but the Ducks.

And anybody who follows Simmon's chat during a game 7 is NOT A FAN OF HOCKEY AT ALL.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 14, 2009, 04:59:17 pm
Do you guys really think I'd give up the TV rights to my life that easily?

Please.

1) i offered to pay.

2) you could generate some buzz by releasing the "early tapes" on this board.  before you know it everyone is blogging about it, you take them offline and hold out for a TV deal.

3) i'd be most happy to be your manager and PR person.  you know how to contact me.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on May 14, 2009, 05:08:06 pm
#1 thing the Caps need to improve upon for next season is getting physically (and especially mentally) tougher. This team was soft as shit, see the constant playing down to level of opponents (see: NYR), the complete and total lack of physical play against the Pens, and the fact they, for all intents and purposes, gave up after the 2nd goal last night. They need some physical guys who can play, a second line center, and a couple physical d-men would be outstanding.

Memo to Mike Green: I know you were hurt (as I predicted), but get the fuck off the ice next time. You fucking sucked and were a huge liability on the ice.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 05:32:42 pm
#1 thing the Caps need to improve upon for next season is getting physically (and especially mentally) tougher.
No, I'm sorry, we were looking for "playing some defense, for once." "Playing some defense, for once." Too bad, but tell him what his consolation prize is, Johnny!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 14, 2009, 07:47:02 pm
Caps theme song for game #7 should have been this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG_7IDZHHzM
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 14, 2009, 08:59:57 pm
#1 thing the Caps need to improve upon for next season is getting physically (and especially mentally) tougher.
No, I'm sorry, we were looking for "playing some defense, for once." "Playing some defense, for once." Too bad, but tell him what his consolation prize is, Johnny!
Ding ding ding ding!
The penguin centers just killed us....we could use some of that.  But more than anything we need a few D men that can plant their feet in front of the net and move the freaking puck.

Great game on right now btw...know there are a lot of Detroit fans on the board, but I'm going with the Ducks...the underdog and all.  Hope your ticker is holding up Smackie!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 09:42:44 pm
I... so tired. Cannot breathe. DAN MOTHERFUCKING CLEARY!!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 09:43:00 pm
I am spent.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 14, 2009, 09:48:24 pm
Great game....indeed.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 09:55:23 pm
My love to Smackie. The Ducks took it to us in the 3rd after the game-tier and we didn't deserve to win. I could be him right now. But I'm not. But I'm aware I could be. And I'd be drinking the stuff under the sink, because there's no drug or liquor that could cover that. Don't do it, Smacks.

The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat, what a microcosm we have here. The hockey gods have spoken. Quick whistle, slow whistle. My God. I saw the Lord in Cleary's playoff beard. Oh sweet lord, the gin. Oh sweet lord, the tonic.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 14, 2009, 10:09:19 pm
Mmmmmm....Gin and tonic.  Bombay Saphire I'm hoping?

It's a Two Hearted Ale night for me......
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2009, 10:11:10 pm
Pfft... Hendricks for the first two periods. Bombay up until thewe game tyer and then aristocrat or whawtever the hell we serve ourt friends from then to the end. Because at that point, even my fineally tuned palette couldn;t tell what I was drinking!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 14, 2009, 11:08:29 pm
this boston game is agonizing. its a good thing im a hawks fan. now i just have to hope they can make it past the redwings.

but i sure hope the b's can pull this off.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 15, 2009, 02:45:50 am
Two damn good games on Thursday.  All four teams played their hearts out.  Can't wait for the next round...


Speaking of which...


6| Canes
4| Pens


4| Hawks
2| Wings

Pick em...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 15, 2009, 08:45:11 am
eastern finals dont even start until monday. lots of off days too, pretty crazy
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 15, 2009, 09:08:59 am
venerable, can you check up on smackie?  i'm worried about our boy.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 15, 2009, 10:26:10 am
Pfft... Hendricks for the first two periods. Bombay up until thewe game tyer and then aristocrat or whawtever the hell we serve ourt friends from then to the end. Because at that point, even my fineally tuned palette couldn;t tell what I was drinking!
Aristocrat?  Julian, you dissapoint me.....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 15, 2009, 11:12:08 am
Hawks - 6
Pens -7

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 15, 2009, 11:40:36 am
Pfft... Hendricks for the first two periods. Bombay up until thewe game tyer and then aristocrat or whawtever the hell we serve ourt friends from then to the end. Because at that point, even my fineally tuned palette couldn;t tell what I was drinking!
Aristocrat?  Julian, you dissapoint me.....
I was drunk. It wasn't Aristocrat, it was regular Bombay. And it's our "invited company" gin.

And yes, for the love of God, someone please check on Smackie.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 15, 2009, 12:04:56 pm
I'm alright now.  Finally had a good night sleep.

Can't complain one bit about the boys effort last night.  I would have preferred to go down in a little better fashion than Cleary's stick hitting Hiller's pad, but it is what it is.  I really wanted OT, but I suspected the entire time that Detroit would get a late third period goal and Anaheim's only hope was to get to OT where anything could happen.

I feel badly for Carlyle.  He effectively worked the lines to neuter Detroit's big guns, but he just didn't have the depth to go deep with the Red Wings, and their depth made all the difference.  Our squad is a combination of really young and really old, so as we balance that out and become a group of late 20 somethings, we're going to be damn good.  The balancing starts with dealing Jiggy this off-season.  Sad, but it's time.

Congrats Julian.  You have much to proud of with that squad.  Classy, talented group of hockey players.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 15, 2009, 12:32:21 pm
Oh wow, he showed up the next day and was classy and congratulatory and didn't tell anyone to fuck themself. Oh how different the 930 boarding experience could have been for all of you had that game went the other way.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 15, 2009, 12:41:31 pm
And Smacks, your team had a hell of a season, or at least playoffs. Your analysis is correct, Detroit won because of 3rd and 4th lines; Anaheim's top 2 can play their game effectively against Detroit's top 2. If you can jettison Giguere (big cap hit especially with a possibly lowering cap number looming) and use that space to get experience on the 3rd line, you'll be right back next season. I only question how long the Niedermayer/Pronger/Selanne talent window stays open before a complete overhaul is needed. Regardless, this is becoming the best rivalry in the current NHL.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 15, 2009, 02:17:25 pm
from xNWx: Bloodstained Gary Bettman: 'I Have Taken The Necessary Measures To Ensure A Crosby-Ovechkin Final' (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/bloodstained_gary_bettman_i)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 15, 2009, 02:33:52 pm
Oh wow, he showed up the next day and was classy and congratulatory and didn't tell anyone to fuck themself. Oh how different the 930 boarding experience could have been for all of you had that game went the other way.

I think a younger Smackie may not have been so conciliatory, nor if I hadn't taken the time to reflect last night.

A minute by minute report by me probably would have taken Franzen apart for the embellishment of Getzlaf's slash, but this is the NHL and I know well enough that the officials do a good job in the playoffs of evening things up.  The two power play goals were both the wrong call, but this is the NHL and those evened themselves out. 

The big failure was really of our own doing - twice failing to score with a two-man advantage.  If we score on either one of those, we don't lose on something like the last goal.   
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 15, 2009, 02:57:25 pm
I only question how long the Niedermayer/Pronger/Selanne talent window stays open before a complete overhaul is needed.

Well, it's pretty obvious we're going to need a right winger.  Selanne at 38 and R Niedermayer at 34 are an ongoing problem with their decline.

I'm less concerned about the Defense.  Sure Pronger and S Niedermayer are sure bet hall of famers and impossible to replace, but that's why they went after Whitney and Wiesnewski.  Whit is signed for 4 years and Wies for 3 and if they can spend one or two more seasons with teachers like Scotty and Prong, they will be more than serviceable.

The number one line is so young (and underrated in my eyes with all this Sidney-Ovie talk) that it's ridiculous, and the rest of league should be scared.  Getzlaf is 24, Perry is 23 (and fearless at that age!), and Ryan (22)/Carter (25).

What we don't have is the reputation of a Detroit franchise where a player like Hossa will take less to play with Detroit.  He's the right winger we were missing last night...if he were willing to take a similar salary this offseason, we should have plenty of cap space with Jiggy gone and reductions in the Niedermayer load.
   

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on May 15, 2009, 03:24:32 pm
#1 thing the Caps need to improve upon for next season is getting physically (and especially mentally) tougher.
No, I'm sorry, we were looking for "playing some defense, for once." "Playing some defense, for once." Too bad, but tell him what his consolation prize is, Johnny!

Can't play defense unless you play physically. Last time I checked, this isn't women's hockey.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 15, 2009, 03:34:50 pm
thanks. i love the article :)

from xNWx: Bloodstained Gary Bettman: 'I Have Taken The Necessary Measures To Ensure A Crosby-Ovechkin Final' (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/bloodstained_gary_bettman_i)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 15, 2009, 03:46:24 pm
Detroit in 6 (I was tempted to say 5, but I think they've got a few extra bruises)

Pens in 6.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 15, 2009, 04:27:57 pm
Detroit in 6 (I was tempted to say 5, but I think they've got a few extra bruises)
Yeah, I'm expecting Chicago to take game 1, if for no other reason than Chicago didn't just play Anaheim and Detroit did. I don't think the Wings are out of gas, but I anticipate a hiccup.

Detroit in 11.

No clue who in the East to be honest. The Canes are playing some great playoff hockey and Ward is back in old form (and apparently has never lost a playoff series) but the Penguins have more offensive firepower, obviously. It could go either way.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Venerable Bede on May 15, 2009, 04:30:16 pm
i think brother-in-law, father-in-law and me are going to try to make game 4 in chicago next sunday. . .

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 16, 2009, 03:31:54 pm
The Winnepeg Jets to return... if Bettman gets his way?? http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=278929

I'd love to see this, then Bassillie getting an expansion team in Hamilton or Kitchner in future years. Wow.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 16, 2009, 10:41:07 pm
hockey
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 18, 2009, 12:31:33 pm
just got offered a ticket to game 2 and i dont think i can go :(
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 22, 2009, 09:45:54 am
In a poll of 292 players, Alex Ovechkin became the first back-to-back winner [of Sporting News' player of the year award] since Pittsburgh's Jaromir Jagr (1999-2000). The top three:

1. Alex Ovechkin, Capitals 147
2. Evgeni Malkin, Penguins 65
3. Pavel Datsyuk, Red Wings 23

Note to RatBastard:  Why would a player with "no class" and "no respect for the game" be voted by his colleagues as the best in the business (by a landslide) two years running?  The respect of your peers is by far the best measure of class and respect, so put that in your bubble pipe and blow on it.

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 22, 2009, 09:46:55 am
for someone who's just gotten into hockey, you're already a real ass!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 22, 2009, 09:51:18 am
for someone who's just gotten into hockey, you're already a real ass!
Feel free to get your bubble pipe out too, hoser.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 22, 2009, 10:44:01 am
Why would a player with "no class" and "no respect for the game" be voted by his colleagues as the best in the business (by a landslide) two years running? 
by scoring a whole lot of goals

malkin was awesome last night. wow
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 22, 2009, 10:53:13 am
Why would a player with "no class" and "no respect for the game" be voted by his colleagues as the best in the business (by a landslide) two years running? 
by scoring a whole lot of goals

malkin was awesome last night. wow

Indeed he was.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 22, 2009, 02:45:56 pm
Note to RatBastard:  Why would a player with "no class" and "no respect for the game" be voted by his colleagues as the best in the business (by a landslide) two years running?  The respect of your peers is by far the best measure of class and respect, so put that in your bubble pipe and blow on it.



the guy is a great player on the ice and other players see that. it does not mean he is a great guy. please dont get the two of them confused which you clearly have. you dont have to be the classiest guy/nicest guy for other people to notice what you bring to the game.

and for a newcomer, you certainly act like the game begins and ends with ovie which clearly it does not.

Go HAWKS!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2009, 02:56:00 pm
Go HAWKS!

They gave away the game (and I would argue the series) on Tuesday.  But it's good to see that people still have hope.

Turnovers kill. Poise counts. Experience matters. Confidence is king. (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=423411)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2009, 03:01:59 pm
Oh, and Chaz, your arguments wreak of desperation.  If he really was the best you wouldn't have to constantly remind us.  He's good, nobody doubts that.  Is there room for improvement?  A tremendous amount. 

But I will take the time to remind you that his season is over.  Would he trade in all of these individual awards to be in the position Sidney Crosby is in?  I'm not as certain...

But if this is what it takes for Caps fans to continue to participate in hockey conversations, so be it.  You're missing some exciting hockey by not watching though.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2009, 03:03:07 pm
you dont have to be the classiest guy/nicest guy for other people to notice what you bring to the game.

Spoken like a true Pronger fan....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 22, 2009, 03:15:56 pm
there was a survey of nhl players in this weeks sports illustrated, and i think 51% said ovie was the best player in hockey. only like 2% said crosby (malkin was higher)

am i going to care if the pens raise the cup? will nick lindstrom care that he only got less than 10% or whatever if the wings win it all? am i going to think about it next week?

hell no
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 22, 2009, 03:27:39 pm
Oh, and Chaz, your arguments wreak of desperation.  If he really was the best you wouldn't have to constantly remind us.  He's good, nobody doubts that.  Is there room for improvement?  A tremendous amount. 

But I will take the time to remind you that his season is over.  Would he trade in all of these individual awards to be in the position Sidney Crosby is in?  I'm not as certain...

But if this is what it takes for Caps fans to continue to participate in hockey conversations, so be it.  You're missing some exciting hockey by not watching though.
Oh believe me I'm still watching.  And  you don't need to remid me our season is over we got thumped by crosby malkin and the pens...I was there.  All due respect to their team.  The caps have a little ways to go but they are a few pieces away from being a great team and I thing they will be in the mix for a while, which doesn't exactly happen in DC a lot lately.

My post was pretty much primarily directed at RatBastard who kept on saying Ov was totally classless, disrespectful to the game etc.  When I asked him why he never ever answered.  So I was just digging at him for dodging the question...clearly he doesn't like the caps or Ov and that's just fine I was just having some fun with him.

And you people don't have to be so snobby about your hockey.  Sure, most of my life I've only been a casual fan ....and yes having a exciting team with and exciting star in my hometown is drawing me in BIG TIME.  I'm a big sports fan, but have never been one to adopt a team from another city as "my team".  For chrissake....I'm a god damned redskins fan since the 70's.  Do you know how depressing that's been the last 15 years?  Danny and fucking fed-ex field?  Don't even get me started on that.  Let's just say I suffer year in and year out.  And in DC we've had to settle for the O's and Peter Angelos the worst owner in all of baseball cockblocking DC out of a team forever.  Then we finally get one and their marketing plan is about as good as something one of those groups of morons on The Apprentice would come up with.  I mean come on...all you hear about the Nats in their commercials is how you shouldn't drive down there, take metro.  It's almost like they are begging people not to go.  And the team itself has been managed for shit since it got here making a few crucial mistakes with trades/non trades, but I will respectfully reserve judgement about the on field product for another year or two and give them a chance.  The Wizards?  Forget about it!  I don't EVER see them getting out of the first round of the playoffs with this core, if that even now that the east is slowly getting stronger in the NBA (though I'm not a big bball fan anyway).

Boy I feel better getting all that off my chest.  As if 10 years of DC sports angst has been lifted!

So yeah, having a young exciting team with potential here in town is huge....DC has been such a loser of a sports town for a long time so a lot of people are getting into hockey here.  Sure we're not one of the original 8, I'm not from Canada, but I'm not a complete moron either, of course I know the game doesn't start or end with players like Ov, Malkin or Crosby (who only got 1.8 % of the players vote as opposed to the 50% that Ov got sorry couldn't resist ;D).
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 22, 2009, 03:35:21 pm
taken before the playoffs ;)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 22, 2009, 03:42:13 pm
taken before the playoffs ;)
I know I know....... >:(

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 22, 2009, 03:45:00 pm
Go HAWKS!
Where? Golfing?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2009, 03:51:47 pm
And you people don't have to be so snobby about your hockey. 

That's where you're wrong.  The rest I didn't read.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 22, 2009, 03:59:55 pm


But if this is what it takes for Caps fans to continue to participate in hockey conversations, so be it. 

for someone who's just gotten into hockey, you're already a real ass!



and for a newcomer, you certainly act like the game begins and ends with ovie which clearly it does not.


Am I? ::)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 22, 2009, 07:56:11 pm
datsyuk scratched from the line-up for tonight. should make the game a little more interesting... CHI might have a chance of winning. maybe.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 22, 2009, 07:58:49 pm
datsyuk scratched from the line-up for tonight. should make the game a little more interesting... CHI might have a chance of winning. maybe.
Chicago's taking this one, and I said it before Datsyuk's injury was announced. Detroit will head home up 3-1, but I like Chicago in this one.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 22, 2009, 10:15:51 pm
Holy shit unbelievable game.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 22, 2009, 10:46:13 pm
is it just me or has this been an above-average year for free hockey?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 22, 2009, 10:53:44 pm
I don't know but i am officially a bad dad...my 5 year old son is still up with me ready to watch overtime.  Earlier in the game he said "go Red Wings!" sure he thought the Hawks were the Wings since the hawks have on the home reds....I asked him "what color helmets are the red wings wearing?" and he said "white".  That's my boy.  I'm pretty sure he's only ever watched one other Det game with me and that game they were definately wearing their home reds.  The kid is paying attention.

I'm jumping on the bandwagon with my son Henry.  I'm with Detroit from here on out. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 26, 2009, 12:21:04 pm
dont you pens fans wish you were playing the Bruins now, instead of this Carolina snoozefest?

 well, the rest of the world does (probably including Canes fans!)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 26, 2009, 12:25:31 pm
its always compelling if your team is playing
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 26, 2009, 03:32:12 pm
I don't know but i am officially a bad dad...my 5 year old son is still up with me ready to watch overtime. 

I can't tell you how many of my oldest memories are of me and my father watching sports way past my bed time.  Papa Stargell's World Series Grand Slam, the Miracle on Manchester, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKWWhswwZog)  Kings vs. Flyers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7pjG2Ud1hw), Miracle on Ice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGACsSW4Iqw), the Angels first division crown, the list goes on and on.....

You're a good father....

I'm jumping on the bandwagon with my son Henry.  I'm with Detroit from here on out. 

...until this.  You have taught your child nothing about loyalty and being a true sports fan.  Try again.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 26, 2009, 05:29:08 pm
Oh gimme a break.  Are you saying you don't pick a team to root for in the superbowl or world series once your team has been eliminated from contention? 

And why wouldn't I pull for the Bruins?  Pulling for the pens would be like me cheering on the Cowboys or Eagles after they'd knocked the skins out in the playoffs!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 26, 2009, 05:36:33 pm
Oh gimme a break.  Are you saying you don't pick a team to root for in the superbowl or world series once your team has been eliminated from contention? 

I pull for whichever team I have money riding on...and that usually changes with each game.  I never bet against my teams, and I rarely bet for them on individual games (though I will at the start of the season pick them to win it all).

I do on occasion root against teams that I hate (Dallas Cowboys, NY Yankees) or players I hate (Alex Ovechkin), but rarely do I root for a team that I do not give my full faith and devotion too.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 26, 2009, 05:45:32 pm
i root against teams when my team is not playing pretty much all the time. i have a soft spot for the giants just because the beat the pats

the exception is soccer where i tend to root for whoever plays a style more pleasing to the eye
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 26, 2009, 05:47:12 pm
Oh gimme a break.  Are you saying you don't pick a team to root for in the superbowl or world series once your team has been eliminated from contention? 

I pull for whichever team I have money riding on...and that usually changes with each game.  I never bet against my teams, and I rarely bet for them on individual games (though I will at the start of the season pick them to win it all).

I do on occasion root against teams that I hate (Dallas Cowboys, NY Yankees) or players I hate (Alex Ovechkin), but rarely do I root for a team that I do not give my full faith and devotion too.
Well then aside from the gambling part our philosophies are not too different here.  Except in the rare case of a compelling underdog, I usually root for what ever team I deem to be less evil (for whatever reasons I may have).

And I too always root against the Cowboys and Yankess, as well as the Eagles.  Cowboys/Eagles games are days of great existential confusion for me.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2009, 10:21:57 am
bring on the wings
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 27, 2009, 10:01:55 pm
that last stop by huet, with ~20 secs to go in regulation, was certifiably ridiculous.

can't wait for OT.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on May 27, 2009, 10:51:33 pm
that last stop by huet, with ~20 secs to go in regulation, was certifiably ridiculous.

can't wait for OT.
You've got that right sprawled out on his belly a pad save like he had an overhead view....
Where was Huet all year?  He showed up tonight.  Too bad is wasn't enough.  Both goalies put on a clinic.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: saintangelsin on May 28, 2009, 02:16:47 pm
I'm not predicting who is going to win the cup, but I'm thrilled that this year's match up is a rematch.

As a Pens fan, revenge would be awfully nice, but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 28, 2009, 02:27:09 pm
With all this excitement in the hometown, I hope you all aren't missing the de facto Stanley Cup Final happening out west....

I stand by my prediction that nobody will give the Red Wings a tougher time than the Ducks.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 28, 2009, 02:39:28 pm
wheres julian with some hyperbolic certainty
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 28, 2009, 03:26:16 pm
No more Hawks :( What a way to go out, tho. It'll be nice to see Chelly and the cup together once again.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 28, 2009, 04:13:06 pm
wheres julian with some hyperbolic certainty
I said after the Anaheim series that it'd be Wings in 11. Guess that means Pittsburgh will last 6 games!

Pittsburgh fans have to be pretty discouraged since there team is basically Chicago with marginally better offense and marginally worse defense and the Hawks got creamed.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 28, 2009, 04:14:38 pm
It'll be nice to see Chelly and the cup together once again.
Barring injury or an appeal to the NHL, I don't think he'll get his name on it. He won't get into a Finals game unless there's an injury and he didn't play the requisite number of regular season games. It's amazing how much he dropped off in this last year. He was steadily going down the last few but completely hit a cliff this year. :(
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 28, 2009, 04:19:21 pm
It'll be nice to see Chelly and the cup together once again.
Barring injury or an appeal to the NHL, I don't think he'll get his name on it. He won't get into a Finals game unless there's an injury and he didn't play the requisite number of regular season games. It's amazing how much he dropped off in this last year. He was steadily going down the last few but completely hit a cliff this year. :(

wow! i had no clue he played so few games this year. Such a pity! Well one can always hope!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 28, 2009, 04:23:40 pm
wheres julian with some hyperbolic certainty
I said after the Anaheim series that it'd be Wings in 11. Guess that means Pittsburgh will last 6 games!

Pittsburgh fans have to be pretty discouraged since there team is basically Chicago with marginally better offense and marginally worse defense and the Hawks got creamed.
wings in 6? i'm a little disappointed with you. maybe nervous about the injuries?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 28, 2009, 04:43:14 pm
wheres julian with some hyperbolic certainty
I said after the Anaheim series that it'd be Wings in 11. Guess that means Pittsburgh will last 6 games!

Pittsburgh fans have to be pretty discouraged since there team is basically Chicago with marginally better offense and marginally worse defense and the Hawks got creamed.
wings in 6? i'm a little disappointed with you. maybe nervous about the injuries?
Nah, all reports say Lidstrom and Ericsson are in for game 1, and Datsyuk is probable. When I called Wings in 11, I thought it'd be Chicago in 6 and the Eastern Rep in 5. Guess the Penguins get a bonus game!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 28, 2009, 04:51:31 pm
I think Ross McKeon sums this up well...
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Once we get to the Pittsburgh-Detroit matchup, it?s not even as close as last year?s, which wasn?t as close as a six-game series might suggest.

The Red Wings are just that much better. And nothing illustrates that point more than removing one of the Penguins? top supporting players ? veteran scorer Marian Hossa(notes) ? and adding him to the Detroit roster. How unfair is that?

But it goes much deeper.

On defense, the Wings have finally figured a way to get Jonathan Ericsson(notes) into the top six and limit minutes for Chris Chelios(notes) and Andreas Lilja(notes). Yes, Lilja is injured, but Ericsson is a better option than Lilja or Chelios, even if it has taken longer than it should for this alignment to become a reality.

Detroit?s forwards are better than a year ago, too. No one is surprised anymore when Johan Franzen(notes), Daniel Cleary(notes) or Valtteri Filppula(notes) contributes offensively. Darren Helm(notes) and Ville Leino(notes) add speed and skill that a Draper or Darren McCarty(notes) never had. Sure, we know all about the importance of the Drapers and McCartys, but there?s enough toughness throughout the lineup to make up for a couple of stalwarts.

Chris Osgood(notes) deserves better in terms of what is written and said about him. But even if he?s not regarded as an elite goaltender, he is trusted by his teammates, and that goes a long way this time of the year. He also never seems to face a barrage that could affect a goalie?s psyche. The Red Wings just don?t let that happen.

Then there are the Pens. Crosby and Malkin are eating the Eastern Conference alive again. But neither has faced an opponent that can bring it physically. Guess what? That?s what Detroit can do, even though few talk about the Red Wings in that respect. And when we say bring it physically, it?s not so much as the highlight-reel hits as how hard Detroit makes it to win pucks, keep possession and gain the important areas of ice.

The Penguins don?t have Ryan Whitney(notes), Ryan Malone(notes), Gary Roberts(notes), Jarkko Ruutu(notes), Daryl Sydor, Petr Sykora(notes), Adam Hall(notes) and Hossa. In their place are Bill Guerin(notes), Chris Kunitz(notes), Ruslan Fedotenko(notes), Matt Cooke(notes), Miroslav Satan(notes), Craig Adams(notes), Kris Letang(notes) and Mark Eaton(notes).

It can be argued which supporting cast is better, last year?s or this. It can?t be argued that there?s something to say about stability and familiarity, especially when it?s a proven winner. And while all that works in Detroit?s favor, more of the same isn?t a good thing for the NHL.

I think the other point delusional Eastern Conference advocates don't want to talk about, which is a much bigger issue than Wings v Pens is the fact that the Eastern Conference, as a whole, plays a style of hockey that is simply crushed by the devotion to defense and forechecking that the West, by and large, plays. Detroit isn't just better then Pittsburgh, so is Anaheim and San Jose and maybe even Chicago.

You want to know what Malkin and Crosby put up such great numbers in the playoffs? Part of it is that they're elite players, no doubt. But another large part of it is the up-and-down, "let's beat em 5 goals to 4" style of hockey the east plays. Look no further then the top DEFENSIVE defensemen they faced in each round. The best was probably Mike Green, aka Paul "Fourth Forward" Coffey, Jr. He is not a lock-down defenseman. Philly had Jamie Coburn and Carolina had Joe Corvo. Think about that. In 2 of the 3 rounds they played, the best defensemen on the team were Jamie Coburn and Joe Corvo. Do either of those guys even crack the top 6 for Detroit?  Until the Eastern conference decide to play defense-first "playoff hockey" they're always going to be the more entertaining bracket, but ultimately the losing one 9 years out of 10.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 28, 2009, 05:08:34 pm
i agree, the penguins defense is better than their gaa in the playoffs suggest due to the attacking style of hockey played in the east
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 28, 2009, 05:22:45 pm
i agree, the penguins defense is better than their gaa in the playoffs suggest due to the attacking style of hockey played in the east
Yeah, the fence swings both ways. Unfortunately, it's still not nearly as good as Anaheim, Detroit, San Jose, or Chicago's.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 28, 2009, 05:29:06 pm
to be fair, i dont know that i think the pens are going to win the series, but i do feel better about it as opposed to last year. injuries, wings penalty kill not performing, and malkin playing better being the main factors
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 28, 2009, 05:40:59 pm
and malkin playing better being the main factors
Didn't Malkin play pretty darned well last year until, um, he ran into Detroit? I love how he conveniently got the flu then.

The only injury that worries me for Detroit is Datsyuk. He's the only one they're saying might not be in for game 1 (except Draper who looks like he's out for the season), but he is at least skating.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on May 28, 2009, 10:11:44 pm
It'll be nice to see Chelly and the cup together once again.
Barring injury or an appeal to the NHL, I don't think he'll get his name on it. He won't get into a Finals game unless there's an injury and he didn't play the requisite number of regular season games.

You only have to play in one playoff game to get your name on the Cup, doesn't have to be a Finals game.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on May 28, 2009, 10:12:13 pm
And it's Cheli, not Chelly.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 28, 2009, 10:16:43 pm
You only have to play in one playoff game to get your name on the Cup, doesn't have to be a Finals game.

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Question: What is the criteria for a player to get his name on the Stanley Cup?
Answer: The Stanley Cup is the only trophy in pro sport that bears the names of players, coaches, management and staff from the winning teams.

Prior to 1977 only players who had completed the Stanley Cup playoffs were eligible. Today, players appearing in 41 regular-season games or one Stanley Cup Final game for the championship team have their names engraved on the Cup. The NHL makes exceptions for players who do not meet the standard because of injury or other extenuating circumstances.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on May 28, 2009, 10:19:26 pm
Link?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 28, 2009, 10:22:08 pm
http://proicehockey.about.com/od/stanleycupbunker/f/stanley_cup_nam.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Cup#Engraving

http://www.nhl.com/cup/fun_facts.html (last bullet point)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on May 28, 2009, 10:24:29 pm
I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 29, 2009, 08:28:11 am
and malkin playing better being the main factors
Didn't Malkin play pretty darned well last year until, um, he ran into Detroit? I love how he conveniently got the flu then.

The only injury that worries me for Detroit is Datsyuk. He's the only one they're saying might not be in for game 1 (except Draper who looks like he's out for the season), but he is at least skating.
no, he tailed off badly against philly in the ecf last year
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 29, 2009, 02:28:57 pm
wow - i guess youre all things authoritative on one chris chelios.  he's my favorite player, please dont for one minute think i dont know how to spell his name.

btw....

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4199927&name=09cupplayoffsblog

More Chelly
As the media horde surrounded Chris Chelios after this morning's pregame skate, Red Wings teammate Kris Draper couldn't resist.

"Chelly, sing 'O Canada,'" Draper said.

Chelios, 47, was in high demand today after the Jeremy Roenick-fueled controversy yesterday, in which the San Jose Sharks veteran went on Chicago radio and said Babcock wasn't playing Chelios because the coach didn't like Americans and certainly didn't like Chelios.

"J.R. is J.R.," Chelios said. "The NHL would be boring without J.R. There's nothing to it. ... I'm very happy in Detroit, always have been. J.R. says stuff -- what are you going to do?"

Chelios heard from Roenick yesterday.

"He called me. He said he was sorry," Chelios said with a laugh.

Babcock and Chelios spoke about it this morning.

"I was sitting at the pancake place with the coaches this morning, and Chelly walked over and said, 'I think I should bring you an apple,''' Babcock said. "First thing I did was phone my kids, because I got a couple of American kids, and tried to give them a hug over the phone because you don't want them to think their dad doesn't like them.''

All joking aside, Babcock didn't hide his feelings when asked whether Roenick's comments bothered him.

"Yeah, it bothered me, because it's a blatant lie."

Chelios denied any kind of rift exists with Babcock.

"Never had an issue or problem with him in four years he's been here," Chelios said. "I think the only coach I ever had an issue with was Mike Keenan, but he liked the confrontation. It's been a great relationship here. No complaints."

OK, then. Can we all move on now?



And it's Cheli, not Chelly.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 29, 2009, 03:48:31 pm
OK onto the finals predictions...

I'll take whoever wins four games first to win the cup!

But seriously, lets go out on a limb and say pens in 6.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on May 29, 2009, 05:17:34 pm
Wings in 6

If Chicago could pull off a win, I think the Pens should be able to maybe get 2.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 30, 2009, 11:03:57 pm
Next to The Victors, I think Don't Stop Believin' is becoming may 2nd favorite sports song. Will never under stand why we don't play Papa Hobo late in games though.

It's beginning to look alot like 2008 again, everywhere you goooooooo....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 31, 2009, 10:25:54 pm
Next to The Victors, I think Don't Stop Believin' is becoming may 2nd favorite sports song.

other than the line about the boy being born & raised in south detroit, i don't understand how the wings can get away with playing this song.  "don't stop believing" is the underdog's song - when george mason had their improbable run to the final four, or when the red sox came back from 0-3 to beat the yankees in '04... those were "don't stop believing" moments.  that the team with the second-best record in the west makes it to the finals isn't exactly a stretch.

jules, are you in hockeytown this weekend?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 31, 2009, 10:49:25 pm
Sweetcell, you're overthinking it. "Don't Stop Believing" is the number two song for any occasion. I want it played at my funeral.

Now, back to the Penguins are making Osgood look like a god because the don't have anybody tough enough to put in front of the net.  He's got a clear look at every puck heading his way.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 31, 2009, 11:48:17 pm
Unfortunately no, but living it up huge here!

And Osgood is coming up huge. Someone give this guy the Conn Smythe already!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 01, 2009, 08:51:03 am
Unfortunately no, but living it up huge here!

just wait til football season!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 01, 2009, 09:02:02 am
And Osgood is coming up huge. Someone give this guy the Conn Smythe already!
agreed. difference in the series to a large extent.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 01, 2009, 10:04:10 am
Unfortunately no, but living it up huge here!

just wait til football season!
Hey, we could win as many as 4 games this season! Maybe even 5!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 01, 2009, 12:26:00 pm
agreed. difference in the series to a large extent.
Yes, and no. I'd put Osgood and "depth" as 1a and 1b in the reasons the Wings are winning. Zetterberg still owning Crosby is probably #2.

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 01, 2009, 12:47:01 pm
i'd go 1) osgood playing well 2) maf letting in some softies 3) faceoffs 3a) depth 4) zetterberg, but fair enough
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 01, 2009, 01:49:30 pm
I'd go (1) Pittsburgh is not Anaheim.

There is no #2.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 01, 2009, 01:52:07 pm
right because the ducks beat the wings this year

oh wait that was last year

no wait
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 01, 2009, 01:55:44 pm
They were the last team to beat the Wings and certainly the last team to make a series out of it....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 01, 2009, 02:00:38 pm
They were the last team to beat the Wings
that was 2 years ago

and with hasek, not osgood
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 01, 2009, 02:13:56 pm
OK - I'll stop for the next week. 

Take this series to 7 (I won't even make you survive until the last three minutes of the game) and I'll never bring it up again.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 01, 2009, 03:09:16 pm
Smackie, it's a lost cause. Eastern Conference fans will simply refuse, despite all evidence to the contrary, to acknowledge the 3-4 best teams in the West are generally better than whoever the East throws out there. It's like a mantra for them, act shocked -- SHOCKED!! -- when the eastern conference squad gets manhandled in the finals, then act like whoever it was is still the #2 team in hockey.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 01, 2009, 03:23:22 pm
you really like making unprovable statements
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 01, 2009, 03:24:05 pm
the best team in the East had a crappy week and isnt playing for the Cup.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 01, 2009, 03:45:22 pm
the best team in the East had a crappy week and isnt playing for the Cup.
and somehow thats more important than osgood
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 01, 2009, 05:08:00 pm
you really like making unprovable statements
Yes, it's unprovable, because a bracket doesn't allow for the second and third place western conference teams to play the eastern winner in a pointless bragging rights match post-finals. All sorts of anecdotal evidence does point to it like pretty much every year in recent history the western conference champion (and Stanley Cup champion) facing a much sterner test from a conference foe then from their finals opponent. It's backed up by simply watching the playoffs and using the old eye-test. I don't know alot of unbiased people who can sit here and go, "Oh yeah, Pittsburgh would've beat Anaheim this year" or "Pittsburgh would've beat Dallas last year," or "Ottawa would've beaten Detroit 2 years ago."
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 01, 2009, 05:16:53 pm
sorry but i could care less about a hypothetical match up between the ducks and pens or whoever while my team is in the stanley cup finals. its completely immaterial
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: walkonby on June 01, 2009, 05:29:18 pm
julian, go back to fashion.  it's more interesting.  nothing like a sport where they are allowed to beat each other up for whatever reason, just to make it entertaining enough to watch.  like nascar with the wrecks, and wrestling with the chairs over the head and george the animal steele chewing on the ring.

(http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://mikeytherhino.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/ice_hockey_monkey.jpg&usg=AFQjCNHh2JRyFk0Hw80cjcQidxIrdBWQyw)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 01, 2009, 05:45:01 pm
the best team in the East had a crappy week and isnt playing for the Cup.

No good team in the west has a crappy week.  They're that good.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: saintangelsin on June 02, 2009, 12:26:38 am
Next to The Victors, I think Don't Stop Believin' is becoming may 2nd favorite sports song.

other than the line about the boy being born & raised in south detroit, i don't understand how the wings can get away with playing this song.

A friend of mine who's mom is from Detroit hates that song, all because nobody from the southern areas of Detriot say that they're from "South Detroit."

OK onto the finals predictions...

I'll take whoever wins four games first to win the cup!

But seriously, lets go out on a limb and say pens in 6.

AGREED! Or I'll say Pens in 7...just like how their series with the Caps went.

the best team in the East had a crappy week and isnt playing for the Cup.

No good team in the west has a crappy week.  They're that good.

I thought the Blackhawks were having a crappy week last week. But I guess I'm wrong?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 02, 2009, 08:26:11 am
I don't know alot of unbiased people

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Driveway on June 02, 2009, 09:21:33 am
Zebras in 7.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on June 02, 2009, 10:32:01 am
i meant as far as underachieving on the ice.  As a Canadian, i wish half the league was back there but we dont want the Coyotes, thank you.  Unless its just payback for the Nationals!
OH!

I think Balsillie would throw so much money into the team (and have such unlimited resources if he puts it where he's talking about) that they'd turn around nicely. The Coyotes weren't bad for most of the year, and hockey futures ranks their farm system as really good (EDIT: #4 in the league). You add to that actually spending somewhere near the cap ceiling and I don't think it's a long turn around for the Winnipeg Jets Redux at all.

Also, unfortunately, I think if Canada wants more than 6 teams, the only way that's happening -- barring Bettman dropping over dead and someone completely different coming in as commissioner -- is for a terrible southern team to move up there. Might as well be this one.

Potential owner Jim Balsillie has filed an application for the relocation of the Phoenix Coyotes, a move expected to happen later this week: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4223269
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2009, 12:00:40 pm
I thought the Blackhawks were having a crappy week last week. But I guess I'm wrong?

I never considered the Blackhawks one of the "good" teams in the west.  At least not yet as they are a very young squad (something like 2 position players over 30?).  I'm sure I'll re-evaluate in the next couple of years after they get a year or two under their belt.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 02, 2009, 03:53:36 pm
A friend of mine who's mom is from Detroit hates that song, all because nobody from the southern areas of Detriot say that they're from "South Detroit."
It's true. There is a southWEST Detroit, but South Detroit is pretty much a fiction. Unless you're talking about the Detroit River or Windsor, Ontario.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2009, 07:02:22 pm
Alright, my money is on the Pens tonight.  Don't let me down, and don't ruin my streak of correctly betting on hockey games at 8.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on June 02, 2009, 10:23:01 pm
wings look beatable tonight... a first for this series.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on June 02, 2009, 10:36:16 pm
apparently bras that offer proper support are either in short supply in pittsburg, or they're really really expensive.

congrats pens.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 03, 2009, 08:26:05 am
couldnt tell you, ive never been to 'pittsburg'

thought that was the worst the pens played in the series, but i'll take the win. nothing surprising, seemed like even wings fans were expecting the result. tomorrow is the real test in pittsburgh, though

i'll be out of town for a bachelor party/wedding. hope i can find a tv tomorrow night
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on June 03, 2009, 09:25:06 am
couldnt tell you, ive never been to 'pittsburg'

you really wanna play that game?  way to look petty.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 03, 2009, 09:27:20 am
sorry sweatcell. my bad
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 03, 2009, 01:56:11 pm
way to look petty.

This is actually a pretty serious offense.  I once spelled his last name wrong and he's still mad at me.  This was easily 2 or 3 years ago, maybe more.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 03, 2009, 02:20:25 pm
haha, i almost said i only care about 2 things getting spelled correctly: pittsburgh and my last name

i figured celly was just mad he screwed up an uncontested zong
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 04, 2009, 06:35:54 pm
Alright, my money is on the Pens tonight.  Don't let me down, and don't ruin my streak of correctly betting on hockey games at 8.

Going for double digits tonight.  Red Wings to win at +130.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on June 04, 2009, 09:42:11 pm
three BEAUTIFUL goals in less than 6 mins... pens on fire. 

wow.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 05, 2009, 09:57:52 am
where's Julian?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 05, 2009, 10:04:09 am
where's Julian?
Sobering up.

Oh, and we're still beating the JV squad, don't fear.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 05, 2009, 10:19:46 am
where's Julian?
Sobering up.

Oh, and we're still beating the JV squad, don't fear.


lol
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on June 05, 2009, 10:30:50 am
i suspect he's hiding in his basement with a rifle, 50 gallons of Evian, and enough hors d'oeuvres to get him through until the start of 2009-2010 season - all a precaution in case the series continues on its most recent trajectory.  
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 05, 2009, 10:40:21 am
Don't forget my new Tiffany crystal candle holders. I wouldn't go anywhere without them.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 05, 2009, 12:27:18 pm
three BEAUTIFUL goals in less than 6 mins... pens on fire. 

More like three hideous turnovers, but kudos to Pittsburgh for converting those turnovers into goals.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on June 06, 2009, 10:48:59 pm
Did not watch the game but just saw the box score.  Was this a home ref game as much as the box score shows it to be?  Four goals in the 2nd and ALL FOUR are PP (1st one was 5 sec after the man got back so basically a PP goal as well).  Was that the way it really went down or did the Pens just lose control of the game aside from the fact?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: babystew on June 06, 2009, 11:05:43 pm
Pens completely lost composure.  Took a bunch of really bad penalties.  There was one questionable/bad call (an interference call where both a Pen and Wing ran into Osgood), but otherwise everything was pretty legit.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 06, 2009, 11:22:49 pm
Did not watch the game but just saw the box score.  Was this a home ref game as much as the box score shows it to be?  Four goals in the 2nd and ALL FOUR are PP (1st one was 5 sec after the man got back so basically a PP goal as well).  Was that the way it really went down or did the Pens just lose control of the game aside from the fact?
The Penguins completely lost composure, the Wings looked like they were under zero pressure whatsoever, and Fleury didn't make any save worth replaying. It was one of those games that once it got to 2-0 or 3-0, you knew it was over, and the rest was just the other team completely deconstructing in front of your face.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 06, 2009, 11:24:24 pm
Pens completely lost composure.  Took a bunch of really bad penalties.  There was one questionable/bad call (an interference call where both a Pen and Wing ran into Osgood), but otherwise everything was pretty legit.
Yeah, they seemed to think if they took a cheapy roughing or "physical" penalty that it'd fire their team up or give them a rallying point. and it didn't.

Oh, and also: PAVEL, freaking, DATSYUK. Set up 2 goals and just with his all-around play tipped the collective balance back to the boys from Hockeytown.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 08, 2009, 09:11:14 am
i missed game 5 apart from bits and piece on a 2 inch screen. i'm going to go with "didnt happen"
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2009, 12:15:08 pm
i'm going to go with "didnt happen"

Unfortunately in a 7 game series, do overs don't exists.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 08, 2009, 12:21:00 pm
yes but fortunately the winning team needs 4 wins and not 1 no matter how many goals they win by
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 08, 2009, 12:24:48 pm
also, theyve got to start and end the season earlier. second year in a row that i've been to a wedding during the scf
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2009, 12:52:03 pm
also, theyve got to start and end the season earlier. second year in a row that i've been to a wedding during the scf

I blame the groom - he should know better.  Early to mid August is a good time to get married, but be wary of The PGA.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 08, 2009, 12:57:44 pm
his comment was it would have been a perfect wedding if the pens would have showed up for the game

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 08, 2009, 08:19:56 pm
usually i sent around 200 text messages tops

last month it was 737. thanks nhl
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 09, 2009, 12:08:35 pm
last month it was 737. thanks nhl

Surely, Newcastle had something to do with that as well...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 09, 2009, 12:22:11 pm
yeah i suppose

i have a couple of hypertext pens fan friends though
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 09, 2009, 10:40:48 pm
That was awesome.  Even without a dog in the fight.

Scuderi, from near goat to hero.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on June 09, 2009, 11:29:49 pm
That was awesome.  Even without a dog in the fight.

that was awesome because you (and i) are without a dog in the fight:

FREE HOCKEY!!!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 10, 2009, 08:42:55 am
up until kennedy's goal i was a mess...and then i was a mess after the wings made it 2-1. bring on game 7
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on June 10, 2009, 05:46:37 pm
Well folks it looks like my John Madden predictions of whoever wins the last game of the series and whoever gets to sixteen wins first will win the cup!  Damn I am good...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Staralfur25 on June 11, 2009, 03:20:28 am
I said penguins would take it all since the begnning of this thread...... :P   
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 11, 2009, 05:43:15 am
I said penguins would take it all since the begnning of this thread...... :P  
George W. Bush was consistently wrong too. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 11:35:36 am
I said penguins would take it all since the begnning of this thread...... :P  

You do realize a road team hasn't won a game seven in the finals in almost 40 years, right?

Believe me I know, and if I have to see Dan Bylsma miss the net in Jersey back in 2003 one more time I'm going to punch somebody.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 11, 2009, 11:51:37 am
and you do realize that the pens are 5-0 all time in road game 7's

i dont think any of that means anything. you throw out everything when it comes to game 7. anything can happen in one game
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Staralfur25 on June 11, 2009, 11:59:12 am
Well...i was just saying i picked them..geezzz.  its gonna be a good game. hopefully
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 12:00:37 pm
and you do realize that the pens are 5-0 all time in road game 7's

They've never played a game 7 in the Stanley Cup Final....

And since we're just throwing facts out there, it's also been 25 years since a team came back from an 0-2 defecit to win the Cup...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 12:12:05 pm
i dont think any of that means anything. you throw out everything when it comes to game 7. anything can happen in one game

And this is where I disagree, at least from a gambling perspective.  While technically this is true, I am required to look at every factor, and the best way I see to make any money off this game is to pick Detroit to win by 2 or more goals...

It opened at -170 and has steadily moved down to around -190.  The road team at +160 (opened at +150) or move the goal advantage back towards an even money bet?  Right now, I'll take the even money bet or the under of 5 1/2 goals.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 11, 2009, 12:15:48 pm
and you do realize that the pens are 5-0 all time in road game 7's

They've never played a game 7 in the Stanley Cup Final....

And since we're just throwing facts out there, it's also been 25 years since a team came back from an 0-2 defecit to win the Cup...
you can quote any stat you want. none of them matter in a one-off game. including the one i threw out

a lot of times the underdog team steals a couple of games with a hot goalie to force a game 7. that was my recollection of the anaheim/devils series. certainly the home team has had the superior goalie throughout this series
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 12:18:14 pm
certainly the home team has had the superior goalie throughout this series

Is this the stat you are referring to?

2009 Finals at the Joe:

Fleury 0-3, 4.35 GAA, 0.857 SV%
Osgood 3-0, 1.67 GAA, 0.947 SV%
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 12:22:24 pm
a lot of times the underdog team steals a couple of games with a hot goalie to force a game 7. that was my recollection of the anaheim/devils series.

That hurt.  Bating me in to reminding the audience that New Jersey (led by former Duck Jeff Friesen) beat the then Mighty Ducks 3-0 in game 7....

As if the Bylsma highlight (lowlight) running since Tuesday wasn't enough.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 11, 2009, 12:24:00 pm
i meant osgood has been the better goalie over 6 games, not specifically at detroit

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 11, 2009, 12:31:59 pm
a lot of times the underdog team steals a couple of games with a hot goalie to force a game 7. that was my recollection of the anaheim/devils series.

That hurt.  Bating me in to reminding the audience that New Jersey (led by former Duck Jeff Friesen) beat the then Mighty Ducks 3-0 in game 7....

As if the Bylsma highlight (lowlight) running since Tuesday wasn't enough.
you brought it up! thats how i remember the colorado/nj series, too to be fair
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 12:56:39 pm
No I didn't, ESPN did, and had we not won since then I would be really upset, but after seeing those uniforms I'm really kind of OK with it.  Sad that I still own 3 of those old jerseys...

Anyhow, look, I hope you and venerable win.  I hope Julian wins too.  I really do.  But since the Feds are cracking down on offshore internet gambling accounts (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525708,00.html), I have to cash in as quickly as I can before they shut the sports books down too, so most importantly, I hope I win money.

So I have decided to root for Detroit by two goals or more OR Pittsburgh if it's a one goal game.  That way I please everybody.  But truthfully, as a fan, I hope we get a 1994esque game 7 (although 2004 and 2006 were good too).  Even if I lose $100, I still want to be entertained above all else.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 11, 2009, 01:21:01 pm
i dont really bet on sports and i really dont even understand what you win if your bet hits, but i dont really see the logic in using a relatively small set of game 7's to determine your bet. especially when they didnt involve the teams currently playing. i would think youd get better odds flying in the face of espnisms, but thats just me

but hey, it the pens win by 1 i'll take it
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 02:18:28 pm
Detroit to win (-190) means I have to bet $190 to win $100 (plus I recoup my bet for a total of $290).  High risk, low reward, but they are the favorite to win. 

Pittsburgh to win (+160) means I have to bet $100 to win $160 (plus I recoup my bet for a total of $260).  Low risk, high reward, but I'm picking the underdog.

Instead, I have the option to tease the bet to Detriot wins by 2 goals for an even money bet - I bet $100 to win $100 (plus I recoup my bet for a total of $200).  Risk equals reward, but I'm taking a chance and increasing the burden on the favorite.

That's the same as betting the over under at 5 1/2 total goals scored, which is an even money bet (bet $100 to win $100 for a $200 payout).  This is a tempting bet because I'm pretty sure that no game 7 final in my lifetime has had over 5 total goals scored. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 02:30:11 pm
i dont really see the logic in using a relatively small set of game 7's to determine your bet. especially when they didnt involve the teams currently playing.

But here's what we do know - the strategy for winning a game 7 will not change.  The players may change, but I guarantee you both coaches are preaching the same thing right now:

Take few chances on defense, and by few, I mean zero.  Defensemen do not go forward, let the forwards score the goals.

Forwards, throw the puck at the net as often as you can and hope you get a break.  You can't turn the puck over if you don't pass a whole lot, so lets see if we get a lucky bounce.  More important is that you come back and play defense.  Think of it as playing in OT for 3 periods.

Don't give the refs any reason to blow the whistle on you unless it prevents a goal scoring opportunity.  There will be very few penalties taken, and even fewer called.  The players will play conservative and the officials will let the game play out as they don't want to decide the outcome.

All of this will make for very tight hockey and fans of neither team can only hope for a third period like we had in game six.  Fans of either squad can hope for a blowout but should expect a mistake free hockey game that's close with 10 minutes to go. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 11, 2009, 02:33:08 pm
i agree with that for the most part. the under looks like the best bet of all of those
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 11, 2009, 02:40:01 pm
i'll be taking that over.   it is 5 1/2 right?

   
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 02:40:33 pm
i agree with that for the most part. the under looks like the best bet of all of those

I think I've talked myself into that as well....

1987 Edmonton 3-1 Philadelphia (4)
1994 New York 3-2 Vancouver (5)
2001 Colorado 3-1 New Jersey (4)
2003 New Jersey 3-0 Anaheim (3) 
2004 Tampa Bay 2-1 Calgary (3)
2006 Carolina 3-1 Edmonton (4)
 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 02:44:03 pm
i'll be taking that over.   it is 5 1/2 right?

It is.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: yinzer on June 11, 2009, 02:45:26 pm
pens will win 4-2 including an empty netter.  pittsburgh will be the city of champions!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 11, 2009, 02:46:12 pm
pens will win 4-2 including an empty netter.  pittsburgh will be the city of champions!

boston is the city of champions, get it right.

i'm going with 4-2 Wings.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 11, 2009, 02:47:15 pm
champions of what
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 02:48:18 pm
At some point we do need to discuss the potential for how great tomorrow can be for the sport.

A Friday night, in primetime on the East Coast and during happy hour for the less hockey interested west coast, with no basketball game going up against it.

Something magical could do a lot for the future of hockey.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 11, 2009, 02:50:16 pm
its going to be so great that i'll be at a concert in Brooklyn during the game....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on June 11, 2009, 02:56:04 pm
who you seeing? ill be at summerstage, so missing the game. I havent watched much of these games since the hawks were eliminated.

its going to be so great that i'll be at a concert in Brooklyn during the game....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 02:59:38 pm
And I actually had a lot of respect for both of you as hockey fans before this....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 11, 2009, 03:19:12 pm
theyve got to end the season earlier
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on June 11, 2009, 03:23:44 pm
Well I am volunteering if that makes it look any better and figured detroit would have won it already. Besides if no one volunteers at Summerstage, it cant continue. And free music in the NYC parks = awesome! 

But I should be able to catch the end of the game (at least thats what Im hoping for).

And I actually had a lot of respect for both of you as hockey fans before this....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 11, 2009, 03:50:13 pm
who you seeing? ill be at summerstage, so missing the game. I havent watched much of these games since the hawks were eliminated.

its going to be so great that i'll be at a concert in Brooklyn during the game....

i'll be at the Bell House for the Posies. 

 I havent watched 2 minutes of hockey since the B's went out.  not 2 minutes. I already watched this series last year anyway!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 11, 2009, 03:51:47 pm
And I actually had a lot of respect for both of you as hockey fans before this....


oh stop. just cause you get to watch the game THEN go out and enjoy your night, doesnt mean we should have to break plans.  I suppose if the game were on at 5pm i might watch. ;-)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on June 11, 2009, 04:16:30 pm
And I actually had a lot of respect for both of you as hockey fans before this....

srsly.  it's fucking GAME SEVEN of the cup final.  whether i have a horse in the race or not, i'd break plans to ensure i'm watching this game.  conveniently enough for me, i don't have any plans other than this game.

i'll be camping out tomorrow night at the graduate students' lounge where they have a SWEET 60" hdtv.  beer & snacks will be in the cooler - drinks only have to last through the second period as the bar opens at 10 pm :D
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 05:28:37 pm
Wait.  Sonick - they made you trade the finals in for citizenship, didn't they?

Those bastards.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Venerable Bede on June 12, 2009, 11:50:23 pm
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k314/hebert_is_king/farva.gif)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 13, 2009, 07:36:09 am
max talbot is god. holy heck
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on June 13, 2009, 12:20:50 pm
in the words of sonick: wow.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on June 13, 2009, 12:47:52 pm
Any team that pisses on the Wings' parade is a friend of mine, even if it is the fucking Penguins.

I hope the Wings tell Hossa to go fuck himself. Wait, I hate the Wings, so I hope they resign him to a long-term deal.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on June 15, 2009, 10:09:40 am
no word from julian since last thursday.  i'm a little worried about him.  i fear that my apocalyptic "rifle, evian and hors-d'oeuvres" scenario is playing itself out somewhere in richmond right now...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 15, 2009, 10:39:11 am
i texted smackie something along the lines of 'i hope julian doesnt quit the board' on friday night

i promise to try to be nice
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on June 15, 2009, 11:17:56 am
Oh come on. None of us are indispensable. Not even Julian.

i texted smackie something along the lines of 'i hope julian doesnt quit the board' on friday night

i promise to try to be nice
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on June 15, 2009, 11:41:02 am
text from jules? http://www.textsfromlastnight.com/view/48134

if it is, no wonder he's not posting here... yet.

Oh come on. None of us are indispensable. Not even Julian.

indispensable?  no.  entertaining?  yes. 

you don't have to be indispensable to be missed.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 15, 2009, 11:48:16 am
all i'm sayin

i'd be bummed if rhett left too, for the record
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 15, 2009, 11:59:19 am
Jules will be back by Wednesday.  I guarantee it.

And Rhett did leave - twice I think.  Remember?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 15, 2009, 12:01:55 pm
and i was bummed
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on June 15, 2009, 12:49:39 pm
and i was bummed

(http://www.seattlemet.com/image_cache/assets/0001/2725/Man_crush.jpg?w=300&h=350)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on June 15, 2009, 01:36:05 pm
Jules will be back by Wednesday.  I guarantee it.

And Rhett did leave - twice I think.  Remember?
Well it's a fine line, balancing your time between this place and La Leche League.  I think he's figured it out now though...but not Celeste.  Those wholistic parenting list serves are a lot to wade through.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on June 15, 2009, 02:13:45 pm
Celeste lost interest in this board one I stopped picking fights all the time.

I'll probably be on this board as long as I'm into music and live in the DC area. I was a long time poster on another (artist) message board, but quit that one. This one is harder to quit, since it's a general music message board that's local.

Sorry to semi-hijack the thread, please go back to discussing hockey.


Oh yes...true story...

I was flipping stations the other night, and stopped at the hockey game for a couple of minutes. The camera panned in on Mohammed Ali, who was apparently in attendance. Celeste looked up from her laptop long enough to ask, "Who's that funny looking Asian guy?"

Jules will be back by Wednesday.  I guarantee it.

And Rhett did leave - twice I think.  Remember?
Well it's a fine line, balancing your time between this place and La Leche League.  I think he's figured it out now though...but not Celeste.  Those wholistic parenting list serves are a lot to wade through.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on June 15, 2009, 02:30:54 pm
I was a long time poster on another (artist) message board, but quit that one. This one is harder to quit
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7894/logicquit7ydro8.jpg)

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Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: walkonby on June 15, 2009, 03:14:08 pm
I was a long time poster on another (artist) message board, but quit that one. This one is harder to quit
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7894/logicquit7ydro8.jpg)

</walkonby>

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Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 18, 2009, 11:55:41 am
so julian, are you ready to talk about the finals yet
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 18, 2009, 01:00:24 pm
so julian, are you ready to talk about the finals yet
Try mid-July.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 18, 2009, 01:05:53 pm
cool, i'll set myself a reminder
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: miss pretentious on June 18, 2009, 01:10:14 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Vote-Now-Puck-Daddy-s-No-Foil-S\
tanley-Cup-Winne?urn=nhl,170953 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Vote-Now-Puck-Daddy-s-No-Foil-S\
tanley-Cup-Winne?urn=nhl,170953)

lulz.  know the creator of the hamley cup.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 16, 2009, 09:52:10 am
so julian, are you ready to talk about the finals yet
Try mid-July.
its mid july...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Driveway on July 16, 2009, 10:31:19 am
Pittsburgh still sucks.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on July 16, 2009, 10:38:40 am
I know what the fans of the 2007-2008 New England Patriots felt like when they choked away the title to a hot team that wasn't even in the top 5 in the league. I guess kudos for winning, but you're still as likely to miss the playoffs as your team is to win the East next year.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on July 16, 2009, 10:39:36 am
Also, I'd point out the Penguins played pretty terrible. Massively outshot, and if any of the 9 posts in the last two games for Detroit go in, series over.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 16, 2009, 10:47:37 am
crazy talk

the wings outplayed the pens in exactly one game apart for goaltending. osgood plays ok in games 1 and 2 its pens in 5

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on July 16, 2009, 10:55:11 am
crazy talk

the wings outplayed the pens in exactly one game apart for goaltending. osgood plays ok in games 1 and 2 its pens in 5


You were massively outshot and outhustled in games 1 and 2. It was the general consensus in the hockey world that the gap had grown between the two teams after games 1 and 2.

They got lucky. The Wings had two shots to clinch the series and held the Penguins to 2 goals in each. You replay that scenario 1000 times, the Wings win 997 of them. I give them credit for keeping their composure and taking advantage of the Wings fatigue, but no one outside of Pittsburgh actually thinks the Pens were one of the 5 best hockey teams last year. And in 2009-2010, they don't appear to even be the best team in their state.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 16, 2009, 11:01:23 am
the pens outshot the wings 32-30 in game one and 32-26 in game 2. the "but no one outside of Pittsburgh actually thinks the Pens were one of the 5 best hockey teams last year" part makes me laugh, though
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on July 16, 2009, 11:04:27 am
Well if I'm good for a laugh, at least I'm good for something!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 16, 2009, 11:44:34 am
yeah i mean, i dont care about the opinions of people that disregard the winners of the stanley cup, i care about winning the stanley cup
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on July 16, 2009, 12:25:23 pm
"but no one outside of Pittsburgh actually thinks the Pens were one of the 5 best hockey teams last year" part makes me laugh, though

I was forced to concede that they were as good as Anaheim when they made it to game 7, which put them in the top 3 in my eyes.  Then I had to concede that they were the best team in hockey after winning a game 7 on the road.  To think otherwise is tho have the blinders on.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: mekmad on April 12, 2010, 11:09:04 am
Does anyone have any info on if/when Cap playoff tickets go on sale to the non-season ticket holders?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 12, 2010, 11:16:20 am
solid bump. one of my favorite threads ever
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: James Ford on April 12, 2010, 11:39:51 am
I'm picking whoever Gordie Howe is playing for. Is he still with the Hartford Whalers?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 12, 2010, 12:39:26 pm
Im going for Hawks vs Boston. (at least i think the b's are in the playoffs).
with hawks winning it all.

ill figure out the rest later.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Driveway on April 12, 2010, 12:48:20 pm
It's now or never for the Caps.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 12, 2010, 12:59:22 pm
I heard they cancelled the playoffs this year because of the Olympics.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 12, 2010, 03:57:34 pm
It's now or never for the Caps.
What about next season?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 12, 2010, 03:59:57 pm
next year they have to pay backstrom, so keeping it all together could get trickier i believe
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 12, 2010, 04:08:01 pm
If there's any team you look at and go "man, they better win it all this year or their window is shutting for the next few seasons," it's no doubt Chicago, not the Caps.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 12, 2010, 04:13:06 pm
arent they the east/west version of each other
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 12, 2010, 04:21:36 pm
arent they the east/west version of each other
No, not at all. The Caps only have about 36 million committed for next season, and lose that stinker of a contract on Theodore. Admittedly, they'll need to sign 9-ish players, but they do not appear to be in any real cap trouble. Core locked up (aside from RFA Backstrom), and definitely sufficient cash to flush out the bottom rungs of their lineup.

The Hawks on the other hand, have only 9 forwards, 4 d-men, and a goalie locked up for next season and are already 2 million over the cap (and that's assuming it doesn't go down like most think will). They are literally in salary cap nightmare after this season.

Check it out at capgeek.com:
Caps - http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=30
Hawks - http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=11
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 12, 2010, 04:25:57 pm
thats a well reasoned response. not what i was hoping for

is that the site better than nhlnumbers?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 12, 2010, 04:30:21 pm
is that the site better than nhlnumbers?
I've never heard of NHLnumbers before now, but from a quick glance, I definitely like CapGeek better.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: slappy on April 12, 2010, 05:20:53 pm
arent they the east/west version of each other
No, not at all. The Caps only have about 36 million committed for next season, and lose that stinker of a contract on Theodore. Admittedly, they'll need to sign 9-ish players, but they do not appear to be in any real cap trouble. Core locked up (aside from RFA Backstrom), and definitely sufficient cash to flush out the bottom rungs of their lineup.

The Hawks on the other hand, have only 9 forwards, 4 d-men, and a goalie locked up for next season and are already 2 million over the cap (and that's assuming it doesn't go down like most think will). They are literally in salary cap nightmare after this season.

Check it out at capgeek.com:
Caps - http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=30
Hawks - http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=11

Right now I'd guess Belanger, maybe Brendan Morrison might be given offers for next year. Corvo and Walker's 5 million will be off the books. Alzner and Carlson will be up on entry level contracts. And Nylander's NMC expires so there is a very, very slight chance he could be moved for the last year of his contract.
Caps aren't bad off at all.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 13, 2010, 09:45:21 am
i'd imagine backstrom and schultz would get big deals but that's offseason talk, and now its playoff time

i gotta admit, the caps are the favorites in the east. pretty sky high expections for a team with not much post season success
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 13, 2010, 10:31:07 am
From everything I've seen this season, I'd put Chicago and Washington in the finals, but I just simply cannot see Niemi/Huet or Varlamov/Theodore lifting a Stanley Cup. It just doesn't compute.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 13, 2010, 10:46:38 am
From everything I've seen this season, I'd put Chicago and Washington in the finals, but I just simply cannot see Niemi/Huet or Varlamov/Theodore lifting a Stanley Cup. It just doesn't compute.
pretty good analysis. the caps have pretty much said they're going to come out and rely on one way hockey, but man what an offense. i dont know if anyone has as complete of a unit of skaters as chicago though



Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 13, 2010, 02:07:13 pm
From everything I've seen this season, I'd put Chicago and Washington in the finals, but I just simply cannot see Niemi/Huet or Varlamov/Theodore lifting a Stanley Cup. It just doesn't compute.
Varly was injury plagued all season, opened the season on fire, has been spotty since his injury. Theo's 20-0-3 since January....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 13, 2010, 02:20:52 pm
big difference between regular season in the nascar division and the playoffs. just ask...jose theodore
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 13, 2010, 03:09:20 pm
Theo's 20-0-3 since January....
He's also one of the most notorious hot-and-cold goalies of our generation. IDK, like I said, I'd pick a Chicago/Washington finals but this little nagging voice in the back of my head keeps whispering, "not with this goalies..."
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 13, 2010, 03:10:44 pm
big difference between regular season in the nascar division and the playoffs. just ask...jose theodore
I understand that and Im not saying hes the best goalie in the league, but he is on a hot streak and where else are we going to turn? Varly is about.... 2-3-3 in his last starts? So the number 1 team in the league just gets pushed back to square one because its playoffs? I understand it's a whole new game now but regardless Theo is going into the post-season on a pretty darn good note. Boudreau just anounced him as the starter and he's not putting him "on a short leash". We'll see how soon he can ge comfortable and establish how he'll play in this series if not the entire post-season.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 13, 2010, 03:15:46 pm
Theo's 20-0-3 since January....
He's also one of the most notorious hot-and-cold goalies of our generation. IDK, like I said, I'd pick a Chicago/Washington finals but this little nagging voice in the back of my head keeps whispering, "not with this goalies..."
I'd like to think he won't go from a volcano to Anarctica. Maybe from a volcano to.... the Equator. He has had a spotty past, but it's a whole new season right? I don't have my hopes high, being a fan of DC teams as I am. I don't know how I would react if the Caps did pull it off, I might cry.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 13, 2010, 03:16:49 pm
OK, I figure someone needs to do one of these to get our playoff speculation kicked off, so I'll be the first to sign his name and prepare to be potentially mocked all playoffs long...

WEST
San Jose over Colorado in 5
Chicago over Nashville in 6
Los Angeles over Vancouver in 7 <----- this pick makes no sense, i know
Detroit over Phoenix in 6

San Jose over LA in 6
Chicago over Detroit in 7

Chicago over San Jose in 5


EAST
Washington over Montreal in 4
Jersey over Philly in 6
Boston over Buffalo in 6
Pittsburgh over Ottawa in 4

Washington over Boston in 5
Jersey over Pittsburgh in 7 <---- this would be an epic series

Washington over Jersey in 5


The East intrigues me more then it usually does, especially when one considers all the first round underdogs have winning records against their opponent. Again, it's the playoffs, not the regular season, but I feel really unsure picking anything in the east.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 13, 2010, 03:21:26 pm
yes #1 team gets pushed back precisely because it is playoffs and because the Caps have shown time and time again what happens during playoffs.... Im sure the Sharks fans always say the same thing with Nabby in goal. And yes ---- it is playoffs and Josies record speaks for itself -

2005?06 Colorado Avalanche NHL 9 4 5 0 573 29 0 3.03 .902
2007?08 Colorado Avalanche NHL 8 4 4 0 435 20 0 2.75 .915
2008?09 Washington Capitals NHL 2 0 1 0 6 0 0 3.71 .818

I would surely not discount the Devils. They might not have had the best season, but Brodeur knows how to come through at clutch times.

big difference between regular season in the nascar division and the playoffs. just ask...jose theodore
I understand that and Im not saying hes the best goalie in the league, but he is on a hot streak and where else are we going to turn? Varly is about.... 2-3-3 in his last starts? So the number 1 team in the league just gets pushed back to square one because its playoffs? I understand it's a whole new game now but regardless Theo is going into the post-season on a pretty darn good note. Boudreau just anounced him as the starter and he's not putting him "on a short leash". We'll see how soon he can ge comfortable and establish how he'll play in this series if not the entire post-season.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 13, 2010, 03:26:30 pm
Tomas Plekanec talking smack in Montreal newspaper La Presse: "It's not as though we are facing (Martin) Brodeur or (Ryan) Miller ... They don't have a dominant goaltender.  When you look at the goaltending matchup in this series it favours our team.  I just believe that our goaltending is more solid than theirs. ... I'm not saying their goalies are bad. I'm just saying our goalies are better."

Aaaaaaaand Theodore's response: "Tomas who? Jagr? Ohhhhhhh, Plekanec. OK. I thought you meant Jagr."



Well done, boys, LOLs all around. Every playoff series needs some off-the-wall smack and you two cats are providing it. A+  (I'm a little confused why Jose Theodore thinks Jagr's first name is Tomas but anyway...)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 13, 2010, 03:31:35 pm
Oohhhh nice picks. Id nearly copy yours on the West but Im taking LA over San Jose. Granted I detest SJ more than most teams, but Nabokov -- hahah glad hes not on the Kings.

San Jose in 6
Chicago in 5
LA in 6
Detroit in 5

LA in 6
Chicago in 5

Chicago sweeps LA - the part where I start bawling that the Kings arent going to the cup.

For the East:
Caps in 6
Jersey in 5
Boston in 7
Pitt in 5

Boston in 7
Jersey in 6

Boston over Jersey in 7 (showing how awesome tim thomas really is)

Hawks win the cup in 6.

 
OK, I figure someone needs to do one of these to get our playoff speculation kicked off, so I'll be the first to sign his name and prepare to be potentially mocked all playoffs long...

WEST
San Jose over Colorado in 5
Chicago over Nashville in 6
Los Angeles over Vancouver in 7 <----- this pick makes no sense, i know
Detroit over Phoenix in 6

San Jose over LA in 6
Chicago over Detroit in 7

Chicago over San Jose in 5


EAST
Washington over Montreal in 4
Jersey over Philly in 6
Boston over Buffalo in 6
Pittsburgh over Ottawa in 4

Washington over Boston in 5
Jersey over Pittsburgh in 7 <---- this would be an epic series

Washington over Jersey in 5


The East intrigues me more then it usually does, especially when one considers all the first round underdogs have winning records against their opponent. Again, it's the playoffs, not the regular season, but I feel really unsure picking anything in the east.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 13, 2010, 03:35:11 pm
Killin' my buzz. I'm worried, our record against teams from up North isn't the best this year. I'll be happy if we make it to the Eastern Conference, I said that at the end of last year and I'm sticking to it! I think the team has yet to peak and am looking forward to the post season. Not so much the stress.... or maybe it is the stress...




EDIT: My upset pick is Coyotes over the Wings. Don't ask why.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 13, 2010, 03:36:12 pm
what the hell

caps sweep
pens in 5
philly in 7 (i dont have faith in playoff marty)
sabres in 6

caps in 5
pens in 5

pens in 7

colorado in 7
hawks in 5
vancouver in 6
detroit in 5

hawks in 5
vancouver in 6

vancouver in 7

repeat in 6

yes i said i agreed with julian like 5 posts ago
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 13, 2010, 03:38:02 pm
I'll be happy if we make it to the Eastern Conference
I can assure you as a completely impartial observer that the Caps will definitely make it into the Eastern Conference this season.

EDIT: My upset pick is Coyotes over the Wings. Don't ask why.
Is it an upset if the lower-seeded team wins? I would've preferred San Jose or Vancouver as a Wings fan over Phoenix, tbh.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 13, 2010, 03:40:57 pm
colorado in 7
I would pretty much lose it if this happened. So, so awesome watching San Jose every April. It's like a little kid watching Titanic every week. You sit there and you see the giant boat on the screen, and in your irrational, youthful mind you go, "Oh, there's no way that sinks again. They'll make it this time," and then the iceberg cometh. Again.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 13, 2010, 03:41:51 pm
INteresting picks - but seeing that the Flyers barely got by the Rangers, Im not sure how they plan on getting past the Devils. The Rangers were sloppy at best, playing much like they did regular season. Very few shots on goal and making it all about Henrik. Im thinkign Marty will show up when he needs to.

what the hell

caps sweep
pens in 5
philly in 7 (i dont have faith in playoff marty)
sabres in 6

caps in 5
pens in 5

pens in 7

colorado in 7
hawks in 5
vancouver in 6
detroit in 5

hawks in 5
vancouver in 6

vancouver in 7

repeat in 6

yes i said i agreed with julian like 5 posts ago
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 13, 2010, 03:42:23 pm
I'll be happy if we make it to the Eastern Conference
I can assure you as a completely impartial observer that the Caps will definitely make it into the Eastern Conference this season.

EDIT: My upset pick is Coyotes over the Wings. Don't ask why.
Is it an upset if the lower-seeded team wins? I would've preferred San Jose or Vancouver as a Wings fan over Phoenix, tbh.
Considering all the dust the Wings have been kicking up at the end of the season, "the hottest team" headed into the playoffs ESPECIALLY the Wings. For me, it would be an upset. I'd like to see the Coyotes stomp the Wings.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on April 13, 2010, 03:43:16 pm
One thing I know I don't want is a Caps/Hawks finals.  My gf is from chicago, it wouldn't be pretty, or fun.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 13, 2010, 03:44:51 pm
I have to say --- I was so hoping the Kings were playing the Sharks first round. The Sharks implode every year, and it was pretty much the only guarantee that the Kings get by. Awesome, funny description about the Sharks.

colorado in 7
I would pretty much lose it if this happened. So, so awesome watching San Jose every April. It's like a little kid watching Titanic every week. You sit there and you see the giant boat on the screen, and in your irrational, youthful mind you go, "Oh, there's no way that sinks again. They'll make it this time," and then the iceberg cometh. Again.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 13, 2010, 03:48:20 pm
INteresting picks - but seeing that the Flyers barely got by the Rangers, Im not sure how they plan on getting past the Devils. The Rangers were sloppy at best, playing much like they did regular season. Very few shots on goal and making it all about Henrik. Im thinkign Marty will show up when he needs to.
in recent years, he hasnt. all respect to the man, he's one of the greatest ever, but he tends to wear down at the end. its a total upset, sure. but the flyers can score and play ugly. tough formula for the devils. plus if they have 45 shots per game (or whatever they ended up with in that last game) they'll win in 5 or 6

i refuse to pick the sharks after smackie yelled at me last year
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 13, 2010, 03:50:03 pm
Boudreau just anounced him as the starter and he's not putting him "on a short leash". We'll see how soon he can ge comfortable and establish how he'll play in this series if not the entire post-season.
you know, the other thing that bugs me about picking the caps for the cup is boudreau. guy cannot keep his cool
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 13, 2010, 03:55:35 pm
here are my picks, because i'm like some kind of expert or something:
caps in 5
devils in 6
sabres in 5
pens in 4
sharks in 4
hawks in 5
canucks in 6
detroit in 7

Brodeur knows how to come through at clutch times.

did you watch the olympics?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 13, 2010, 04:06:42 pm
yes - i know his performance at the olympics was ummmm not good. i also was at the game last year in NJ when they lost in game 7. When he's good hes really good, and when hes not .... yeah well hes not.

Regardless, after watching the flyers game on Sunday against a really bad Rangers - they barely got by. Unless the Devils dont show up at all, Im still thinking theyre getting past the Flyers.



Brodeur knows how to come through at clutch times.

did you watch the olympics?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 13, 2010, 04:19:47 pm
devils have won what 2 playoff series since they lost the 2003 finals?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: mekmad on April 13, 2010, 08:17:29 pm
400 level seats pulling up on TM for game 1.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 16, 2010, 02:13:36 am
7 one goal games.  Even for somebody without a horse in the race, this has been some entertaining stuff.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 16, 2010, 10:41:25 am
even this tired guy stayed up for the ot caps game last night. thought they'd win once they killed the penalty though
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 16, 2010, 11:11:39 am
They were playing so aggresive, I haven't seen them drill people like that in a while. I don't know what happened after the second.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: smakawhat on April 16, 2010, 01:56:08 pm
Phoenix... must die... and I hate Detroit so this means a lot...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 16, 2010, 01:57:01 pm
I wonder if Jose Theodore knows who Tomas Plekanec is now?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 16, 2010, 02:02:28 pm
i have plekanec on my fantasy playoff team. that goal vaulted me to 5th on rinkotology.com
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 16, 2010, 02:48:32 pm
I wonder if Jose Theodore knows who Tomas Plekanec is now?
That was a real stinger... hopefully we keep the intensity and score like we should in the coming games.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 17, 2010, 07:30:41 pm
It's just Jose Theodore being Jose Theodore. Talk about career implosion, geez, man. Any team next season that pays that guy 20% of what he's making this year is an idiot.

(Not trying to rub it in towards Caps fans at all -- I still think you'll win this series -- and I can sympathize since the Wings inevitable elimination will also come from their goaltending.)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 18, 2010, 12:28:21 pm
I blame the soft defense, they were flying through the neutral zone without any obstacles, it tightened up during the 3rd and it definetly helped us out to come back. The Defense was disgusting last night, and our PK was looking almost just as bad. Backstrom still managed to play a phenomenal game though, it was inspiring. Hopefully we can stomp them for the rest of the series.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 19, 2010, 12:28:17 am
Even by the shiteous standards San Jose have established over the last half decade or so, that was a new level of incredible. Scoring on your own goalie from, what, 35' away to break a scoreless tie in overtime. Un-flippin' believable.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 19, 2010, 08:51:54 am
i think the caps will still win this series. i just hope they get the flyers next round, every game could have 15 goals. i have to admit game 2 was pretty fun to watch though

tomorrow night the sens will come with their all out emotional game. hope the pens can weather the storm
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 19, 2010, 10:34:06 am
Fun for the 3rd period, we were BBQing and it was just about dead silent until it got to be 4-3. Caps have done this way too much this season... Pumped for game 3. Boudreau has already made his decision as to who will start, still no official word beyond that. At least I haven't checked.

Someone tell the Senators to wake up.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 19, 2010, 10:37:47 am
whole game was pretty fun if you werent rooting for either team

boudreau has basically said "we dont have a goalie". guess they'll need better than average defense after all. because if you cant stop the habs from scoring, who can you stop? boston?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: blinkboy on April 19, 2010, 12:11:59 pm
whole game was pretty fun if you werent rooting for either team

boudreau has basically said "we dont have a goalie". guess they'll need better than average defense after all. because if you cant stop the habs from scoring, who can you stop? boston?

Boston pretty much stops themselves from scoring.  but lets not be too hard on them, without Savard, they are kinda screwed.  Hopefully without Vanek the B's can pull out Game 3.   Though, any victories by the B's just extend the date in which i finally see evidence that they certainly wont be winning any Stanley Cup this year.

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 20, 2010, 12:24:18 pm
First the mets win (im not a fan, but was at the game which turned out to be quite good) and then came home to see the kings pounce all over the canucks. what a game! the kings had some sweet goals and are looking awesome on their powerplay. Im hoping to see them up 3-1 in no time :)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2010, 04:54:46 pm
I can sympathize since the Wings inevitable elimination will also come from their goaltending.)

the real reason osgoode was benched:

(http://upnextinsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/128981853707462885.jpg)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 27, 2010, 09:39:39 am
wow, caps can never do anything easy in the playoffs, eh?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 27, 2010, 09:41:33 am
Another notch in the disappointment belt holding up my DC team pants.



*sigh*

I hope we fall flat on our faces in Game 7 at home. We deserve it.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Driveway on April 27, 2010, 10:22:26 am


*sigh*

I hope DeathFromAbove1979 falls flat on his face.  He deserves it.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on April 27, 2010, 01:16:59 pm
I hope DeathFromAbove1979 falls flat on his face.  He deserves it.
I've been saying this for YEARS!!  :D
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: heather on April 27, 2010, 01:43:59 pm
we should've ended the series last friday.  i'm not sure if i can bring myself to go to tomorrow night's game.  too much heartache so far, and the potential for soul-crushing sadness is overwhelming.  you don't have to tell me i'm a fairweather fan.... ugh.  i need guidance!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 27, 2010, 02:10:28 pm
we should've ended the series last friday.  i'm not sure if i can bring myself to go to tomorrow night's game.  too much heartache so far, and the potential for soul-crushing sadness is overwhelming.  you don't have to tell me i'm a fairweather fan.... ugh.  i need guidance!

you shouldn't go.  and you should sell your ticket to me.

that'll be five cents, please (and the ticket/s ;D)

seriously tho, if anyone has a spare - please let me know.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: eldred24 on April 27, 2010, 02:24:50 pm
Single tix for tomorrows game available on Ticketmaster right now.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 27, 2010, 02:29:11 pm
I've come to terms. As usual a good DC team gets a big head and just fails to perform in the post-season. What is that!? This is one of the more crushing losses. Just seeing them give up is just....pathetic. Yeah, they had 54 shots, but...............1 gets through? Really? Maybe like 5 or 6 really good oppourtunities.... who's goalie is in who's head now...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 27, 2010, 02:51:36 pm
Single tix for tomorrows game available on Ticketmaster right now.

thanks for the heads-up!  i just scored some 8th row uppers for face, so i'm set - but i appreciate the info.

how does one find out when caps tix open up to the public, presale passwords, etc?  buying post-season tickets is confusing.  this morning one needed a password to buy tix, now they're available without one.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: heather on April 27, 2010, 03:00:18 pm
from what i can tell, they give season ticket holders first crack at tickets in an attempt to limit non-fans from scooping them up.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: eldred24 on April 27, 2010, 03:01:35 pm
Totally random come playoff time for the Caps, you just have to check the day before the game. Glad you scored some, enjoy! Hope they come home with a W.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 27, 2010, 03:28:50 pm
from what i can tell, they give season ticket holders first crack at tickets in an attempt to limit non-fans from scooping them up.

i get that - they get first crack as a reward for their loyalty, and the team also uses post-season tix as an incentive to sell next year's season tickets/multi-game packs.  makes sense, the caps need to sell a lot of tickets to pay ovie's salary.

for the fun of it I tried pulling up a single a second ago - section 113, row B, for $275 with all fees!  :o  :o  :o  great seat, ridiculous price... that's eagles/rolling stones type pricing.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: heather on April 27, 2010, 04:05:01 pm
i hope my response didn't come across as being condescending.  it felt a little silly as i was typing (cause it's so intuitive); i should've just copied & pasted from the emails i get from the caps:

"This email is only being sent to Washington Capitals preferred buyers to ensure that the Verizon Center is full of Capitals fans rocking the red!  Although not guaranteed, ticket release alerts may be sent for future playoff games."

i'm happy to report that my friend (and fellow diehard caps fan) has agreed to relieve me of my tickets :)  i refuse to feel bad about it!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 29, 2010, 08:53:58 am
caps sweep

what an idiot
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 29, 2010, 09:17:23 am
So, am I crazy? I'm convinced being a fan of DC teams is just not the right move for me...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: fatskippy on April 29, 2010, 10:42:06 am
tons of broken ankles in DC this morning from the fans jumping off the bandwagon
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: blinkboy on April 29, 2010, 11:55:45 am
tons of broken ankles in DC this morning from the fans jumping off the bandwagon

LOL!!!!!!

  is anyone really surprised that a team playing in the worst division in sports had trouble with a team like Montreal?  It was a bad matchup for them.

  I am quite surprised they lost 3 of 4 at home tho. god that Pittsburgh/Montreal series is gonna be wicked!!!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: yinzer on April 29, 2010, 11:57:11 am
yinz guys should come up to the burgh and check out some championship hockey.  the caps are losers and ovechkin is a bum.  great players come up big in big games.  ovechkin is not great.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: blinkboy on April 29, 2010, 12:01:14 pm
yinz guys should come up to the burgh and check out some championship hockey.  the caps are losers and ovechkin is a bum.  great players come up big in big games.  ovechkin is not great.

i bet if Ovechkin had Dupuis, Guerin and Fleury on his team they wouldnt have lost game 7.

  lets be honest, Crosby has a better surrounding cast. The Caps are still a couple years younger than Pitt.

  is Halak great?  you'll soon find out!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: yinzer on April 29, 2010, 12:11:31 pm
pens in 6.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: blinkboy on April 29, 2010, 12:20:49 pm
pens in 6.

i dont even think it will take em that long!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 29, 2010, 12:29:55 pm
fleury has won a bunch of playoff games the last two years, but i dont know that the caps last last night because of goaltending. however the suggestion that the pens are better than the caps because of a guy older than my dad and pascal dupuis is in-fucking-sane
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 29, 2010, 12:58:00 pm
yinz guys should come up to the burgh and check out some championship hockey.  the caps are losers and ovechkin is a bum.  great players come up big in big games.  ovechkin is not great.
Fuck Pittsburgh. That failed shithole of a city, take your sports team, they'll all be in the shitter like the rest of the city soon enough.


/frustrated
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 29, 2010, 01:05:28 pm
shouldnt you be talking shit on montreal
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: blinkboy on April 29, 2010, 01:07:48 pm
shouldnt you be talking shit on montreal

they are your problem now!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: blinkboy on April 29, 2010, 01:08:48 pm
fleury has won a bunch of playoff games the last two years, but i dont know that the caps last last night because of goaltending. however the suggestion that the pens are better than the caps because of a guy older than my dad and pascal dupuis is in-fucking-sane

surely you understood my point that Crosby has a better team than Ovechkin.  so i wont waste my time explaining it.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 29, 2010, 01:16:06 pm
if you want to make excuses for ov, please cite better ones than dupuis and bill guerin is all i'm saying

and the caps certainly didnt lose this series because the habs have more talent. they lost because they were out coached and the habs wanted it more. some of the latter has to go on the captain and best player
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 29, 2010, 02:14:50 pm
There are no excuses to make for Ovie. He is one player on the team, granted he is the captain and the face of the organization. Unfortunately, in real life, it IS a team. he had 10 shots on goal and a bullshit goal taken away, the entire team looked completely deflated after the first period. There are no excuses, there is nothing anyone can say in defense of the Capitals and no one should. They were out-played in every way and I think it's horse shit that Ovie will get the blame for it and he will fall into Crosby's shadow. It's disgusting, Crosby had a TEAM a well rounded TEAM behind him, Ovie is part of an offensive machine and clearly, once again, our flaws were displayed in front of the entire league.

Maybe...maybe next season?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 29, 2010, 02:54:24 pm
no caps fan was telling me sid plays on a better team two weeks ago
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 29, 2010, 03:09:50 pm
I love days like this on the board.

And even through all the gloating, this is the best point made thus far:

they lost because they were out coached
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: rocknocerous on April 29, 2010, 03:14:19 pm
Dear Caps,
    Dear Caps, please trade mike green and semin. Please develop a blue line and a playoff goalie. Sincerely, Mike
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 29, 2010, 03:33:44 pm
I love days like this on the board.

And even through all the gloating, this is the best point made thus far:

they lost because they were out coached
yeah from my view the two worst things about this is 1) have to face a hot goalie in the next round and 2) the caps might finally realize they have a terrible coach
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 29, 2010, 03:36:43 pm
no caps fan was telling me sid plays on a better team two weeks ago
There's a lot of assholes who buy into it, I've been saying since game 1 our defense needed to be worked on and once again, it bit us right in the ass.


As a single player, Ovie is clearly better, as a team player, it's Crosby. He is a little bitch though, face facts.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 29, 2010, 03:55:35 pm
there were no facts in that post
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 29, 2010, 04:15:50 pm
Pitt in 6
Boston in 7

Detroit in 6
Chicago in 6

Im still hoping for a Chicago/Boston showdown :)

Oohhhh nice picks. Id nearly copy yours on the West but Im taking LA over San Jose. Granted I detest SJ more than most teams, but Nabokov -- hahah glad hes not on the Kings.

San Jose in 6
Chicago in 5
LA in 6
Detroit in 5

LA in 6
Chicago in 5

Chicago sweeps LA - the part where I start bawling that the Kings arent going to the cup.

For the East:
Caps in 6
Jersey in 5
Boston in 7
Pitt in 5

Boston in 7
Jersey in 6

Boston over Jersey in 7 (showing how awesome tim thomas really is)

Hawks win the cup in 6.

 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 29, 2010, 04:46:22 pm
Chicago sweeps LA - the part where I start bawling that the Kings arent going to the cup.

I wouldn't be Ducks fan if I didn't bring this up.  And being a decent gentleman, I did wait a few days....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: xneverwherex on April 29, 2010, 05:12:55 pm
yeah it was depressing, but hell its better than we've done in quite awhile. i didnt really think theyd go too far, but i sure was hoping! lets just hope they dont mess up the team too much.

at least youre not a sharks fan ;)

Chicago sweeps LA - the part where I start bawling that the Kings arent going to the cup.

I wouldn't be Ducks fan if I didn't bring this up.  And being a decent gentleman, I did wait a few days....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on April 29, 2010, 05:33:09 pm
at least youre not a sharks fan ;)

I would never have the opportunity to hoist the Cup if I were a Sharks fan.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: chaz on April 29, 2010, 05:58:27 pm
Epic fail, flail for the ages, choke of all chokes....yes.

But after stepping back from the ledge a bit I'm feeling better about the caps' future, considering the nucleus of players we have under age 25:

Ovechkin ? 24
Backstrom ? 22
Fehr ? 24
Gordon ? 25
Green ? 24
Schultz ? 24
Alzner ? 21
Carlson ? 20
Varly ? 22
Neuvirth ? 22

And a few more just over 25.  This team needs tweaking for sure.  In the offseason we lock up Backstrom, get a legit 2nd line center, blah blah blah.

I'm just sayin, more to make myself feel better than anything else, this is a young team with a lot of miles ahead.

Right?  RIGHT????

That said, I'd be happy right now if Semin, Green and Fleishman never wore red again.  But considering they were complete no-shows for this series their street value is way low.

Meh.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on April 30, 2010, 05:06:52 am
Matching:  Pick the matching items from Group A and Group B.

Group A
Defense wins championships.
Offense puts fans in the seats.

Group B
Caps had massive fan turn out.
Caps went out in the first round of the play offs.

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: blinkboy on April 30, 2010, 09:01:13 am
if you want to make excuses for ov, please cite better ones than dupuis and bill guerin is all i'm saying

 sorry i was lazy on comparing the two teams. i could care less about either of them so i apologize!

   isnt there a Flyers fan i can talk shit to on here?

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on April 30, 2010, 10:18:30 am
isnt there a Flyers fan i can talk shit to on here?

yup - RatBastard.  have at him. 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on April 30, 2010, 10:32:25 pm
I is a Flyers fan and have been since the mid 70s.  Truth be told I was really surprised they won the 1st round series.  If everyone plays like they did in round 1 they can make it a little further.  We shall see.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: yinzer on May 01, 2010, 10:21:17 am
yinz guys catch any championship hockey going on at the historic igloo last night???  keep the cups coming.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 01, 2010, 12:31:23 pm
the pens definitely owe one - probably several - to the caps.  last night, montreal looked like a team that has just come off a 7-game series in which they gave it all.  tank was pretty damn empty.

pens in 5.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: blinkboy on May 03, 2010, 10:57:16 am
I is a Flyers fan and have been since the mid 70s.  Truth be told I was really surprised they won the 1st round series.  If everyone plays like they did in round 1 they can make it a little further.  We shall see.

  The Bruins / Flyers are both playing a bit above their fans expectations perhaps! I cant believe the B's are scoring and winning home games. As much trash as i would like to talk if Boston wins the series...its hard when theres no Carter, Gagne and Lappy.   Game 1 was the best playoff game of the year so far in my opinion so i am excited for tonight...and they said the other series would be the fun one!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 03, 2010, 05:31:50 pm
i wonder how much of this is due to the bump from the olympics... or is it just that more people have versus now, so they can actually watch the games.

TV audience up from 2009

NEW YORK -- U.S. viewership of the NHL playoffs increased 24 percent from 2009, the league's highest average first-round audience in 10 years.

The NHL said Friday that NBC and Versus combined to average 742,000 viewers per telecast. That's the most since ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 had 750,000 in 2000.

Versus averaged 595,000 viewers, a 35 percent increase from 2009 and the league's best showing on cable since ESPN/ESPN2 in 2001 (608,000). Versus averaged a .7 rating, up 75 percent from 2009.

NBC averaged 430,000 viewers for its four broadcasts, an 18 percent increase over 2009. Its 1.1 average rating was the best since 2006 and up 10 percent from last year.

The rating is the percentage of all homes with TVs, whether or not they are in use.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2010/news/story?id=5152366
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 03, 2010, 05:42:05 pm
I am actually watching less Stanley Cup Playoff action this year because of the Olympics.  It's just not measuring up.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 04, 2010, 08:09:51 am
what a difference two weeks make
7 one goal games.  Even for somebody without a horse in the race, this has been some entertaining stuff.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 04, 2010, 11:56:51 am
yinz guys catch any championship hockey going on at the historic igloo last night???  keep the cups coming.
Yeah, that 3-1 loss in the Igloo was booosssss
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 04, 2010, 12:23:07 pm
game 2
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 04, 2010, 12:39:27 pm
Even for somebody without a horse in the race, this has been some entertaining stuff.
I am actually watching less Stanley Cup Playoff action this year because of the Olympics. 

and how about because your ducks aren't in the playoffs? ;D
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 04, 2010, 12:53:36 pm
I was going to reply to shoeshine's quote with the following:

More like what a difference a year makes...
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 04, 2010, 01:35:38 pm
you lost me but ok

both of the western conference match ups are compelling in my opinion. i can see how the east is kind of zzzzz though
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 04, 2010, 08:56:25 pm
halak is having a ridiculous game.  currently in the second intermission, tied @ doughnuts.  anyone looking for some entertainment should consider dialing in the third period.

edit: perfectly screened shots notwithstanding. 

really liked this article: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2010/columns/story?columnist=burnside_scott&id=5160556
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 05, 2010, 08:13:40 am
fleury was better

and espn.com for hockey? they didnt even mention that dupuis grew up a nordiques fan. terrible
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: blinkboy on May 06, 2010, 09:17:31 am
I is a Flyers fan and have been since the mid 70s.  Truth be told I was really surprised they won the 1st round series.  If everyone plays like they did in round 1 they can make it a little further.  We shall see.


at least Richards and Briere are trying to win.    I think its more that the B's are playing so well. Lets hope Krecji isnt out for long!

edit: or not. well without Krejci and Sturm...  i am afraid we have no chance at beating Pitt or Montreal. :( 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 11, 2010, 01:32:14 am
pens in 5.

nevermind.

great game tonight.  habs were out-shot, out-maneuvered, and just generally out-played... i'm still not sure how a few bursts of heroics managed to beat the sustained onslaught that the pens brought.  halak was lucky with the 4-5 shots that dinged off the posts.

GO HABS GO!
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 11, 2010, 04:51:29 am
pens in 5.

nevermind.

great game tonight.  habs were out-shot, out-maneuvered, and just generally out-played... i'm still not sure how a few bursts of heroics managed to beat the sustained onslaught that the pens brought.  halak was lucky with the 4-5 shots that dinged off the posts.

GO HABS GO!


Any good goalie will tell you that a shot that goes off the post is one that he played correctly.  The pipes are a goalies best friend.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2010, 08:52:57 am
pens in 5.

nevermind.

great game tonight.  habs were out-shot, out-maneuvered, and just generally out-played... i'm still not sure how a few bursts of heroics managed to beat the sustained onslaught that the pens brought.  halak was lucky with the 4-5 shots that dinged off the posts.

GO HABS GO!
that was the best the habs have looked all series
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 11, 2010, 10:54:32 am
Any good goalie will tell you that a shot that goes off the post is one that he played correctly.  The pipes are a goalies best friend.

sounds like hubris to me.  it's assuming the goalie actually had a play on the shot, which wasn't always the case last night.  halak was completely screened on one shot, he didn't know where the puck was until he heard "TING!" behind him.  on another, a great pass had halak sprawled and gave the shooter an open net - nothing halak could do.  it was luck that those shots weren't an inch and a half to the inside, they would have bounced in.

The pipes are a goalies best friend.

in the case of patrick roy, they really were... he had whole conversations with them ;D
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: RatBastard on May 11, 2010, 02:02:59 pm
The pipes are a goalies best friend.

in the case of patrick roy, they really were... he had whole conversations with them ;D

All goalies do that from my experiences.  Every team I played for we just let the goalie go do his thing and left him alone as long as he kept the puck out of the net.  I played center and would have several interesting conversations with the opposing goalie during the course of the game.  Anything to get under his skin and get him off his game.  Having taken that course of action, one had to learn to take evasive action quickly.  Getting whacked with a goalie stick is not exactly fun.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: walkonby on May 11, 2010, 04:30:04 pm
i need a magazine with half naked hockey players.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 11, 2010, 05:20:04 pm
i need a magazine with half naked hockey players.

best i can come up with for ya:
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Puck-Headlines-Measuring-true-MVPs-Ovechkin-be?urn=nhl,210182

http://www.towleroad.com/2010/02/canadian-hockeys-olympic-hero-sidney-crosbys-beefcake-shot.html

http://hockeyfortheladies.blogspot.com/ seems to have the hots for hockey players (specifically the penguins), but doesn't seem to deliver.
 
couldn't find anything as well done as that fifa/world cup spread.  maybe smackie knows of one?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2010, 05:23:36 pm
does ov have a trap stamp?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 11, 2010, 05:47:36 pm
maybe smackie knows of one?

Not touching this....
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 11, 2010, 06:12:17 pm
What's the O/U on penalties called on the Habs in Game 7? I'd set it at 8.5. No way the NHL is letting Crosby AND Ovechkin go out to a natural market team. Especially not one from Canada.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 11, 2010, 07:36:32 pm
What's the O/U on penalties called on the Habs in Game 7? I'd set it at 8.5. No way the NHL is letting Crosby AND Ovechkin go out to a natural market team. Especially not one from Canada.

lol.  hadn't occurred to me.

wait.  i'm not laughing anymore.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 12, 2010, 08:15:26 am
i had no idea burberry made tinfoil hats
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: blinkboy on May 12, 2010, 09:02:07 am
Montreal and Boston would make an excellent EC final!  i think :)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 12, 2010, 10:58:00 am
Montreal and Boston would make an excellent EC final!  i think :)

When the Wings are out, I generally cheer for as many Original 6 teams as possible, so I too would like one of those vs Chicago in the finals.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 12, 2010, 11:17:56 am
i had no idea burberry made tinfoil hats

lol

When the Wings are out, I generally cheer for as many Original 6 teams as possible, so I too would like one of those vs Chicago in the finals.

trivia: last time two original 6 teams appeared in the finals was 1978?79, when the habs beat the rangers.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 12, 2010, 01:31:58 pm
trivia: last time two original 6 teams appeared in the finals was 1978–79, when the habs beat the rangers.
(http://savral.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/the_more_you_know2.jpg)
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 13, 2010, 03:15:44 am
yinz guys should come up to the burgh and check out some championship hockey. 
yinz guys catch any championship hockey going on at the historic igloo last night???  keep the cups coming.

yinz were saying?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2010, 08:08:06 am
shaving felt good at least
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: James Ford on May 13, 2010, 08:08:44 am
What's your next conspiracy theory, Jaguar?


What's the O/U on penalties called on the Habs in Game 7? I'd set it at 8.5. No way the NHL is letting Crosby AND Ovechkin go out to a natural market team. Especially not one from Canada.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: yinzer on May 13, 2010, 09:01:23 am
yinz guys should come up to the burgh and check out some championship hockey. 
yinz guys catch any championship hockey going on at the historic igloo last night???  keep the cups coming.

yinz were saying?
eh.  the better team one.  at least in that series.  fleury stunk it up.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: yinzer on May 13, 2010, 09:03:18 am
yinz guys should come up to the burgh and check out some championship hockey. 
yinz guys catch any championship hockey going on at the historic igloo last night???  keep the cups coming.

yinz were saying?
eh.  the better team one.  at least in that series.  fleury stunk it up.
that is "won".  tired and hungover.  steelers season just started.
i'm going to start working on my survivor pool tactics.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2010, 09:31:54 am
fleury played well enough for the pens to win in two of the four losses. crosby did the same in one and malkin 0. total team loss. evgeni never really got on track this year, and it really showed. when your three best wingers are kunitz, cooke and dupuis its not going to be easy to compensate

but a ton of admiration for the habs. when you play that dump and change game you play on such a razor edge, its pretty admirable that they managed to stick to it. halak was magical, and i'll root for them in the next round for sure. plus cammillari did not miss. insane

Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 13, 2010, 09:40:34 am
Beautiful.

How 'bout that championship hockey in the Igloo eh?

Amazing way to end the Igloo era. Amazing.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2010, 09:45:16 am
yeah, only three banners will go up in the consol
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 13, 2010, 11:06:50 am
What's your next conspiracy theory, Jaguar?


What's the O/U on penalties called on the Habs in Game 7? I'd set it at 8.5.
Yeah, crazy me, setting the O/U at 8.5 when the actual number turned out to be a paltry 8. What was I thinking?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 13, 2010, 11:08:25 am
steelers season just started.
I wondered how long it would take for a Pittsburg fan to reference the Steelers in the aftermath of that loss. 12 hours apparently.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: blinkboy on May 13, 2010, 11:38:01 am
Ok, decision time

 is it worse to

a) be swept in the first 4 games of a 7 game series and think your team is just poo.

b) win the first 3 THEN get swept. at least seeing 3 wins, but then having to watch a meltdown


  is it worse to


a) lose to the flyers

b) lose to the Habs
 
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2010, 11:41:04 am
steelers season just started.
I wondered how long it would take for a Pittsburg fan to reference the Steelers in the aftermath of that loss. 12 hours apparently.
i almost was going to call this a fair shot, even after you spelled pittsburgh incorrectly

then i realized you havent posted about the wings exit yet
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: sweetcell on May 13, 2010, 11:54:11 am
you spelled pittsburgh incorrectly

dude, get over it.  the spelling is awkward and most people don't care about the city enough to learn it (admittedly i only got it right b/c of this board)

then i realized you havent posted about the wings exit yet

well, it's not as if he can fall back on the lions ;D
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2010, 11:54:48 am
ok sweatcell
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: James Ford on May 13, 2010, 12:27:45 pm
7


http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/boxscore;_ylt=AvKtTww.uJVBYIWmjDa8AnN7vLYF?gid=2010051216


What's your next conspiracy theory, Jaguar?


What's the O/U on penalties called on the Habs in Game 7? I'd set it at 8.5.
Yeah, crazy me, setting the O/U at 8.5 when the actual number turned out to be a paltry 8. What was I thinking?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2010, 01:08:51 pm
clearly the best way to fix a game for a team is to call two penalties on them in the first 40 seconds of a game
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 13, 2010, 01:18:48 pm
steelers season just started.
I wondered how long it would take for a Pittsburg fan to reference the Steelers in the aftermath of that loss. 12 hours apparently.
i almost was going to call this a fair shot, even after you spelled pittsburgh incorrectly

then i realized you havent posted about the wings exit yet
I have a long-standing tradition of spelling Pittsburg incorrectly because the few days I spent in the city made me want to get the H out of there as quickly as possible.

And the wings went out in the second round as I predicted before the playoffs started. Ultimately, Howard lost 3 games for us in which we scored 3 goals. Rookie goaltending = fail. Can't say I liked the ridiculous disproportion of penalty calls in the Sharks favor, but ultimately, I'm not too unhappy for a "rebuilding" year and breaking in a kid who looks like he can backstop us the next 10 years.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 13, 2010, 01:19:25 pm
7
My apologies. My drunken bar count was 8 last night.
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2010, 01:20:43 pm
i had a feeling you spelled it incorrectly on purpose
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2010, 01:28:53 pm
I have a long-standing tradition of spelling Pittsburg incorrectly because the few days I spent in the city made me want to get the H out of there as quickly as possible.

You live in Ricmond, right?
Title: Re: Stanley Cup Picks
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2010, 01:34:25 pm
and hes from micigan
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 13, 2010, 02:00:39 pm
I have a long-standing tradition of spelling Pittsburg incorrectly because the few days I spent in the city made me want to get the H out of there as quickly as possible.

You live in Ricmond, right?
Pittsburg and Morgantown, WV far and away are the two worst decent-sized cities in America. Detroit and Richmond, despite their faults, couldn't come anywhere near the overwhelming shitty-ness of those two.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2010, 02:09:14 pm
i've never been to detroit, but ricmond is easily the 2nd worst city i've ever been to. nothing compares to pilladelpia

i wouldnt even count morgantown as a city
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 13, 2010, 02:14:40 pm
i've never been to detroit, but ricmond is easily the 2nd worst city i've ever been to. nothing compares to pilladelpia

i wouldnt even count morgantown as a city
Philly at least has some nice areas. Regardless, this tangent really has nothing to do with hockey, so let's get back to that and if anyone wants they can start a "terrible places in north america" thread.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2010, 02:17:04 pm
pittsburgh has plenty of nice areas and is the forbes magazine most livable city in america
http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/29/cities-livable-pittsburgh-lifestyle-real-estate-top-ten-jobs-crime-income.html
pilly has people that try to fight you for no reason

but agreed, lets move on
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 13, 2010, 03:44:12 pm
Back to hockey, GSS: any talk on whether the Pens are going to resign Gonchar or is he on his way out of town? Are the Pens thought to be going after Volchenkov if Gonchar is gone? Any thoughts on Gonchar's play this season?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2010, 04:04:03 pm
number one question around the pens

someone is going to offer him around what he's making this year. he's 36, gets hurt all the time and made $5.5m this year. having said all that, i love the guy. he had a shocker in game 7 for sure, but the power play always suffers when he's not there, and he does so many little things well. my feeling is if he wants to make $2m next year, he's back. if he wants to make $5m someone in the nhl will pay him. the word i hear is he doesnt want to go back to russia, so that could be a good sign

if he goes, they have to sign someone to replace him, volchenkov being the obvious fit. i'm a big believer in letang, but he's just not ready yet. gogo was up and down all year. they lose guerin, ponikarovski, fedotanko and cooke too. of those four i really only want cooke back but the other three have spent time on the top 2 lines and need upgrading. so there's really a lot to accomplish in the offseason

of course if you go on letsgopens.com or what have you its all "trade everyone"
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 13, 2010, 04:12:50 pm
of course if you go on letsgopens.com or what have you its all "trade everyone"
Yeah, Malkin, for example, is clearly in decline. We'll give you Filppula and Helm for him and your third round pick in 2012.

Gonchar has never been a dead-solid lock-down defender, imo, as much as he's been an elite PP QB. He's getting too much grief for that fourth goal, but again, that's always been Gonchar: bigger difference maker on the offensive end. I don't think you're getting him at 2million, but 3.5-4 million per for 2 seems reasonable. Heck, if he can be got at that price, I wouldn't mind the Wings taking a run at him instead of Volchenkov. It's just such a terrible year to want to go out and get a D-man, ya know? Once you get past Lidstrom (retire or Detroit), Niedermayer (retire or Anaheim), Vochenkov and Gonchar, who is left that you really want to throw cash at? Dan Hamhuis? Zbynek Michalek? Adrian Aucoin? A 40 year old Rob Blake?

The Wings also sound to be in the Volchenkov sweeps (although the persistent rumour of Kenny Holland going after Jack Johnson via trade continues to rear its head), but I don't think they're going to throw some ridiculous $6 mil per contract out there after him. Ultimately, they can go with Lidstrom/Rafalski/Kronwall/Ericcson/Stuart/Lilja (at the same cash as this season) and Meech or Janik again and take their cap space to go chase Frolov or Plekanec (or heck, even Kovalchuk if he's willing to go for 6-7 million over 4-5 years to play for a contender).
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2010, 04:21:58 pm
he must have thought he had help on the fourth goal is all i can think of

youre right he's not a shutdown dman, but he's an underrated defender, especially post-lockout. his bread and butter is the powerplay. even apart from the points, his ability to hold the puck in the offensive zone is excellent. i looked at the free agents this morning, and the pickin's are slim, i agree. but still, only way the pens keep him is with a hometown discount

lots of trade malkin talk. sports fans in general make me want to bang my head against the wall
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 13, 2010, 04:40:34 pm
lots of trade malkin talk. sports fans in general make me want to bang my head against the wall
Ridiculous. Just look at the last three playoffs: the two years Crosby was the Pens best performer, no cup; the year Malkin was their best performer, cup. Geez.
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 13, 2010, 04:44:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f02Bs8HkHeg

^^^^ Ahahahahahaha.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2010, 05:31:45 pm
lots of trade malkin talk. sports fans in general make me want to bang my head against the wall
Ridiculous. Just look at the last three playoffs: the two years Crosby was the Pens best performer, no cup; the year Malkin was their best performer, cup. Geez.
i dont know if its quite that simple, but no way you trade a conn smythe winner coming off his worst season. buy low sell high
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 13, 2010, 05:43:19 pm
i dont know if its quite that simple, but no way you trade a conn smythe winner coming off his worst season. buy low sell high
I'm saying there's no way they win that Stanley Cup sans Malkin. Despite the NHL's marketing team's seeming insistence, it's not like Sidney Crosby is carrying 21 pieces of dead weight through the playoffs annually.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 13, 2010, 09:36:13 pm
i need a magazine with half naked hockey players.

best i can come up with for ya:
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Puck-Headlines-Measuring-true-MVPs-Ovechkin-be?urn=nhl,210182

http://www.towleroad.com/2010/02/canadian-hockeys-olympic-hero-sidney-crosbys-beefcake-shot.html

http://hockeyfortheladies.blogspot.com/ seems to have the hots for hockey players (specifically the penguins), but doesn't seem to deliver.
 
couldn't find anything as well done as that fifa/world cup spread.  maybe smackie knows of one?

Try the most recent issue of Vanity Fair for some half-naked world cup footballers. or this video on their website.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2010/06/world-cup-video-201006
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Post by: sweetcell on May 13, 2010, 09:58:02 pm
that article was already posted in the "on the eve of a new season" thread.  it's what got walkies interested in sports.  in fact, his request for half-naked hockey players is a direct carry-over from that spread, as in he'd like hockey a whole lot more if...

i know this is a fast-moving board, but try to keep up ;)
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 13, 2010, 10:05:39 pm
EXCUSE ME!  >:( :'(
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Post by: blinkboy on May 14, 2010, 12:45:37 pm
what will it take for someone to mention the flyers/bruins series!? 

  with pitt, wash and detroit out of the playoffs, someones gonna have to notice theres other teams....and damnit, i would like it if it were Boston.

   i have my bottle of JD and a 12 pack of Sam Adams sayin Leighton better give up 5 tonight!
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 14, 2010, 05:16:00 pm
what will it take for someone to mention the flyers/bruins series!? 

  with pitt, wash and detroit out of the playoffs, someones gonna have to notice theres other teams....and damnit, i would like it if it were Boston.

   i have my bottle of JD and a 12 pack of Sam Adams sayin Leighton better give up 5 tonight!
I'm cheering for Boston tonite if it's any consolation!
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Post by: walkonby on May 14, 2010, 06:36:58 pm
EXCUSE ME!  >:( :'(

how about half naked pictures of you . . . to make up for it??    ;)
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Post by: RatBastard on May 14, 2010, 09:35:17 pm
Go Flyers
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 14, 2010, 10:44:32 pm
EXCUSE ME!  >:( :'(

how about half naked pictures of you . . . to make up for it??    ;)

my sports of choice are PS3 and snack food, it's highly unlikely Annie Leibovitz will be inviting to her studio anytime soon. 
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Post by: sweetcell on May 14, 2010, 11:37:15 pm
Go Flyers

that was one hell of a gutsy performance.  i started off rooting for the bruins out of my newly-established preference for original six teams.  my allegiances turned after philly got their first goal - i thought it was a better story, felt like cheering for the underdog, and in the end i think montreal will have a slightly easier time with PHL than BOS. 

the game itself was only so-so.  boston played a technically better game (led in just about every category except the one that counts most) but philadelphia wanted it more - or was better able to keep their focus.
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Post by: sweetcell on May 16, 2010, 04:33:14 pm
who the hell was responsible for scheduling this round?  can someone please answer the following questions:

1) why are there 2 games today and two games on tuesday, yet none on monday nor wednesday?  doesn't it make more sense to stagger the games?  as of thursday they go to alternating nights.

2) today's hawks-sharks game started at NOON in SJ!  is this because of the network (NBC) only willing to give up non-primetime for hockey?
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Post by: sweetcell on May 17, 2010, 01:43:58 am
well THAT was embarrassing.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 17, 2010, 08:45:30 am
i dont know if i'll be even able to watch any of the ecf. cant stand to see philly succeed

fans of o6 teams rooting for other o6 teams always confuse me. shouldnt your fan base have more pent up hate for teams youve played for so much longer?
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 17, 2010, 11:34:34 am
fans of o6 teams rooting for other o6 teams always confuse me. shouldnt your fan base have more pent up hate for teams youve played for so much longer?
I think it's hatred of forced Sunbelt teams taken to its natural conclusion.

No talk about Backstrom signing a 10 year/67million-ish contract? Pretty good deal.
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 17, 2010, 12:11:40 pm
DC teams + big contracts, not really my bag.


Will Ovie and Backstrom be as useful in 10 years? Or just filthy rich and weekend warriors?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 17, 2010, 12:23:33 pm
its a bargain
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 17, 2010, 12:32:29 pm
Will Ovie and Backstrom be as useful in 10 years? Or just filthy rich and weekend warriors?
Backstrom's 22. Ovie is 24. Yeah, I think they'll be just as useful in 10 years. IDK where this ridiculous idea has come from over the past few years that any player over 28 is somehow in decline. Elite forwards and centermen stay fairly consistent thru 35, minimum.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 17, 2010, 12:49:51 pm
its well worth the risk. some guys hit the wall, but i would say with ovie and backstrom the only major risk is a long term injury that is never fully recovered from

maybe if backstrom walked another team would run the risk of buying a guy that has numbers artificially inflated by skating with ov all the time, but backstrom is legit in my opinion. just glacing around i cant think of anyone that is that good, that young and that (relatively) inexpensive
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 17, 2010, 01:39:30 pm
Will Ovie and Backstrom be as useful in 10 years? Or just filthy rich and weekend warriors?
Backstrom's 22. Ovie is 24. Yeah, I think they'll be just as useful in 10 years. IDK where this ridiculous idea has come from over the past few years that any player over 28 is somehow in decline. Elite forwards and centermen stay fairly consistent thru 35, minimum.
It's pessimism, Im a DC fan. Disappointment runs through my blood when it comes to sports teams. I don't think they'll be old men or anything, look at Gonchar. There are still well aged great players in the NHL, I'd just hate them to turn into.....Shaq
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Post by: sweetcell on May 25, 2010, 01:50:15 am
CRISSE DE TABARNAQUE DE CANNE-A-RIEN DE SAINT-SACRAMENT D'OSTIE VIARGE DE CALISSE
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 25, 2010, 12:18:45 pm
Chicago in... well, I'm not going to say 4 but not many anyway...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 25, 2010, 12:32:45 pm
jesus, i hope so

cant believe philly got in without playing a team that can score. amazing
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on May 25, 2010, 12:34:48 pm
jesus, i hope so

cant believe philly got in without playing a team that can score. amazing
Yeah. I mean, congrats to the Philly fans, it's no doubt exciting, but they kind of had the entire eastern conference fall down in front of them.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 25, 2010, 12:54:48 pm
if it was almost any other franchise, the fan of entertaining hockey fan in me would give them props for being the only team in the east that can beat the trap

but the pens fan in me trumps all and i hope horrible things happen to them
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Post by: vansmack on May 25, 2010, 04:31:53 pm
Sorry, I've been ignoring the hockey thread 'cause I thought it was over.  Turns out the finals are just starting, who knew?

Anyhow, the only danger in the Backstrom deal is that we're in salary cap time now, and we have no idea what the salary cap will be in 10 years given that the TV contracts will have to be renewed by then.  This will have a dramatic effect on the cap.  The Caps are banking on the new young players revitalizing the in US interest in Hockey, thus making this a bargain. 

If they're wrong, the support cast around Backstrom and Ovie will make LeBron's team look like the greatest ever.   
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Post by: xneverwherex on May 25, 2010, 05:20:24 pm
Lets go Hawks! Hopefully in 5 (as I think the Flyers will manage at least one win at home).
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Post by: sweetcell on June 04, 2010, 02:44:47 pm
anyone other than xnwx still watching?  i thought game 3 was ridiculously fast-paced and highly entertaining. 

came across this gem on the tubes: don cherry calling a wayne gretzky fight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie1cvW6X8FI).  brings tears to my eyes.  tears of laughter.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 04, 2010, 03:08:54 pm
of course. i was too exhausted to stay up for ot though. hurting today too, hope to make it through the whole game
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Post by: xneverwherex on June 04, 2010, 03:48:35 pm
LOL. This is turning into a really great series. Heading to the bar soon to catch tonights game. Cant imagine there will be many Flyers fans there.