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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 22, 2009, 10:16:12 am
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Anyone have any luck with this thing? I'm trying to get three seats, but can't even pull up anything. Am I doing something wrong or is it already sold out? I guess there's always the regular sale.
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Shit...forgot all about this :(
Anyone have any luck with this thing? I'm trying to get three seats, but can't even pull up anything. Am I doing something wrong or is it already sold out? I guess there's always the regular sale.
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I forgot about it too :( Looks like only lawn left...
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i got 2 lawn, but i dont want pavilion
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lawn was the only thing available, i was in immediately
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So what was the purpose of having a presale, if all that is available is lawn?
Does the band get some kind of extra revenue when you buy your ticket through a fan presale as opposed to a venue sale?
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to be honest, i dont see the point in a presale at all
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prob has something to do with wolftrap...its not a regular venue...they have subscribers and all
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for the sport of it, i signed in and got Orch row T, on the side so i can confirm that more than lawn was available. i threw them back. second pull = lawn only, so one had to be FAST. i did it to keep my ticket scoring skillz fresh.
presales sometimes have the best tickets and sometimes they have the worse. people who are chomping at the bit to get presale tickets are obviously very eager to buy and thus might settle for crap seats. a band might use this approach if they don't think they'll sell out a venue. wilco obviously don't have this problem. maybe they see being able to secure a lawn ticket as something of a benefit for their fans?
a trick with frontgate: be sure to be signed in before the presale starts. otherwise they make you sign in after it starts but before you can pull tickets, thus wasting valuable seconds.
to be honest, i dont see the point in a presale at all
i've gotten AMAZING seats over the years through presales. love 'em, but gotta know how to work 'em.
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prob has something to do with wolftrap...its not a regular venue...they have subscribers and all
yeah, that's what a friend mentioned when I tried to get tickets to pavillion/seats last year...People there have memberships for all the shows, etc. I bet business buy 'em up too. I don't know, that and other reasons why I can't seem to get tickets at this No. VA venue so I don't really bother anymore.
(bugs like me on the lawn;P)
sweetcell - at Wolftrap, often individual seats on the edge of row are available when the pavillion almost sold, but it's hard to find two seats together mid-orch and up. (btw, your seat was probably not completely out of queue when you rec'd lawn on your second attempt.)
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I'd suggest keep trying, at 10:30 I got a pair of row S tix.
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sweetcell - at Wolftrap, often individual seats on the edge of row are available when the pavillion almost sold, but it's hard to find two seats together mid-orch and up. (btw, your seat was probably not completely out of queue when you rec'd lawn on your second attempt.)
nope, i pulled a pair for row T (not a single). they weren't far on the edge, i think they were like seats 18 & 19.
:)
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ah, crap, i forgot about this, too. they go on sale to the general public on saturday, i believe. right?
also, any clue as to who is opening?
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i got my lawn tickets, which i much prefer with wolf trap... bring a cooler and friends, great summer evening
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But if you have seats, you can also sit on the lawn, right?
The price difference is only $6, worth that much for the rain insurance.
i got my lawn tickets, which i much prefer with wolf trap... bring a cooler and friends, great summer evening
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I will be going to this show at Red Rocks. I actually have a nice lineup of shows at the Rocks this year with Iron & Wine and Flight of Conchords, Leonard Cohen, Wilco, and Monolith. At Red Rocks you always need a good friend who is willing to head in early and get good seats while you stay and drink in the parking lot.
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But if you have seats, you can also sit on the lawn, right?
The price difference is only $6, worth that much for the rain insurance.
yes, but you can't bring a cooler into the pavilion, if i remember correctly
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you cant bring any food or drink other than water into the pavilion. learned that the hard way
i suppose you can do all that during before wilco comes on and run it back to the car real quick, but i like the lawn personally
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Can you bring an empty backpack into the pavillion?
The plan being to drink a bottle of wine and eat our food prior to Wilco coming on...
I guess the question is are there any kind of bag restrictions?
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man you guys don't know shit about wolftrap do you?
not surprising given the posts on here a few months ago about how wolftrap sucks!!
wolftrap is a national park.. you can bring in anything you want.. if you want to walk in and take a nice swig of your bottle of jack daniels while smiling at the park ranger you can do that too.
as far as coolers people who go to wolftrap and have a cooler but are sitting in the pavilion leave the cooler on the side of the pavilion (no one takes them) and go there for breaks or whenever you want a drink/food....it works quite well.
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thanks for the heads up on the presale guys - just snagged 2 lawn tickets
now we just have to pray for no thunderstorms!
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Conor Oberst & The Mystic Valley Band opening for Wilco at Wolf Trap (and other east coast shows)
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I just checked and there are still rear orchestra on the side available.
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But if you have seats, you can also sit on the lawn, right?
The price difference is only $6, worth that much for the rain insurance.
i got my lawn tickets, which i much prefer with wolf trap... bring a cooler and friends, great summer evening
that's what i'm doing. the goddam ticket fees are some of the highest i've seen. i'm not digging wilco's new ticket handler.
and, yes, you can bring anything (legal) you want in to wolf trap. that's one of the best reasons to see a show there. as someone mentioned, it's a national park so they allow you to bring food, beer, or wine thru the door. i think, though, that if you get busted with illegal substances, you're in deep shit -- smoking pot on federal ground is a big no-no, right?
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Conor Oberst & The Mystic Valley Band opening for Wilco at Wolf Trap (and other east coast shows)
this is very troubling. i wanted to live my entire life without ever seeing conor oberst.
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My roommate is a huge Conor/Bright Eyes fan, so I've heard just about everything the man has released. I was never big on Bright Eyes, but Conor's two solo albums with the Mystic Valley Band are very good. It's a different vocal style (less yelpy), and the music seems like it would appeal to a Wilco crowd.
But I could be wrong. Either way, I'm pretty excited for this show.
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How much of a pain in the ass is it to get out to Wolf Trap via the shuttle to Metro?
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Ditto.
Conor Oberst & The Mystic Valley Band opening for Wilco at Wolf Trap (and other east coast shows)
this is very troubling. i wanted to live my entire life without ever seeing conor oberst.
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well, you could get to the venue early and drink yourself blind... then you wouldn't see conor :o
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Regular sale starts Saturday, April 25 at 12 noon.
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good luck tomorrow everyone!!!!!!!
i need great tix for this.....not lawn for $6 less! u guys are crazy lol.
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You and a friend can stare dreamily into Jeff Tweedy's eyes for only $200.
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/tix/1137668697.html
No, that's not me selling. Just making conversation. Hope it doesn't get the thread deleted.
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How much of a pain in the ass is it to get out to Wolf Trap via the shuttle to Metro?
Getting out there is very easy or was as of last year (policy for this year still to be determined) .. there were metro buses every 15 minutes ..
now on the way back you can't sit around chit chatting after the show.. you have to motor.. the buses wait but they don't wait 30 minutes.. more like 10.. which is plenty of time but you cant dilly dally
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Center Loge
Row B
Seat 106.
Seems like a good seat.
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got center orch, row N ;D
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side rear orchestra, LL
Oh well, who wants to be up close with a two year old anyway?
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Managed to pull CENTER REAR ORCHESTRA PP. Pretty psyched...never been to Wolf Trap.
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side rear orchestra, LL
Oh well, who wants to be up close with a two year old anyway?
Uh-oh. I hope he's a happy 2-year old. At least that night anyway.
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She'd be happier if you referred to her as a "she". ;)
Just give her a stuffed Elmo and some breastmilk, and she's happy anywhere. If not in our seats, then on the lawn. There's actually a Wilco song first up on her going to bed playlist, so she's used to falling asleep to their music.
It just sucks that the price of a ticket for a two year old (or newborn infant for that matter) is the same as an adult ticket price.
side rear orchestra, LL
Oh well, who wants to be up close with a two year old anyway?
Uh-oh. I hope he's a happy 2-year old. At least that night anyway.
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Sorry about that.
I ended up in LL as well. I can't complain since I was in the 2nd row for the Lyric show.
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just was able to pull a single at the back of the center rear orchestra.....
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A new Wilco performance of Woody Guthrie's once-again-timely "The Jolly Banker" is available now on the site by going to http://wilcoworld.net/woody/ with suggested donation to the Woody Guthrie Foundation and Archives. Listen to Jeff Tweedy talk about it on Public Radio's "Marketplace" at http://marketplace.publicradio.org/.
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Wilco ex-member sues Jeff Tweedy for royalties: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090505/ap_en_mu/us_wilco_lawsuit
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Wilco ex-member sues Jeff Tweedy for royalties: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090505/ap_en_mu/us_wilco_lawsuit
Again, Jay Bennett being a douche.
I commend him for what he contributed to the band, but this is ridiculous.
Even if he has a case, it seems like Tweedy isn't the right person to sue.
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New album (http://wilcoworld.net/discs/thealbum/)
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New album (http://wilcoworld.net/discs/thealbum/)
thanks, shemp! i'm liking what i've heard so far :)
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New album (http://wilcoworld.net/discs/thealbum/)
thanks, shemp! i'm liking what i've heard so far :)
i'm liking this way more than Sky Blue Sky already. as always, it'll be interesting to see how they play the new songs live. july 8 just seems so far away...
between wilco (the stream), lost season finale, caps game 7, and landing tickets to both the shins and the hold steady, this has been a pretty damn good day.
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New one is pretty good, but not nearly as good as Sky Blue Sky.
It's about as good as the new Son Volt album...
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I heard the single today and I thought it was terrible.
"I'm Done with this" (or whatever the lyrics were)
yes I am...
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New album (http://wilcoworld.net/discs/thealbum/)
seems like a bit of a snoozer
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Damn...
Never thought this show would sell out.
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Damn...
Never thought this show would sell out.
Really? You didn't?
Wilco on their own would be a big enough draw to eventually sell it out, but throw Conor Oberst in there as opener, and that's a whole different crowd that will show interest in this show.
New DVD, album, album leak, Jay Bennett lawsuit=Wilco in the news a lot recently.
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Damn...
Never thought this show would sell out.
Really? You didn't?
Wilco on their own would be a big enough draw to eventually sell it out, but throw Conor Oberst in there as opener, and that's a whole different crowd that will show interest in this show.
New DVD, album, album leak, Jay Bennett lawsuit=Wilco in the news a lot recently.
Damn...
Never thought this show would sell out.
Really? You didn't?
Wilco on their own would be a big enough draw to eventually sell it out, but throw Conor Oberst in there as opener, and that's a whole different crowd that will show interest in this show.
New DVD, album, album leak, Jay Bennett lawsuit=Wilco in the news a lot recently.
I guess potentially by the day of the show, but nearly two months in advance, a place that holds 6k people, didn't think it would happen. Plus, Wilco isn't the same in a huge venue like that.
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Meh, I'm actually surprised it took this long to sell out. Like I said, Wilco's gotten a lot of publicity lately, musical and otherwise, so it makes sense. And Conor isn't playing a headlining show in the area, so I'd bet there'll be more than a few people there to see him more than Wilco.
I don't think the venue is too big for them sound-wise. They'll just tailor the setlist to fit the venue, like they tend to do.
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Jay Bennett died in his sleep.
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any idea on set times and recent setlists? any chance of hearing old stuff? the last merriweather show had a great oldies encore
EDIT: i like answering my own questions
this tour's statistics (http://www.wilcobase.com/songs_played.php?&artist_key=2&start_year=2009&start_month=6&start_day=12&end_year=2009&end_month=7&end_day=3&tour_key=&sort_col=2&sort_dir=d)
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wilcobase.com
More setlists than you'll know what to do with.
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I'm wondering though if we'll get the full set list..I mean 28 songs should take over 2 hours
I mean must show end by 11 or last metro shuttle is by 11 even if show doesn't end???? Unclear on that....
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I don't know if Wolf Trap has a curfew, but the time of the last Metro train wouldn't be affected by a concert. It'll just leave whenever it's supposed to leave, whether the concert's done or not.
11 seems a bit early to be a curfew for Wolf Trap. But I've only been there a few times. Does it have one?
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I'll call wolftrap tomorrow but this could be a show where taking the metro bus means losing the end of the show.. If Conor Oberst goes on at 8 I don't see Wilco going on until 9 and if they run through 28 songs I just don't see it being done in time for people to get on Metrobus shuttle which is saying 11 at the latest on website..
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Well, I'll be driving to the show, so the selfish fan in me just wants them to play as long as the venue allows.
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Wolf Trap does have an 11PM curfew.
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Never been to Wolf Trap, so I'm looking for some suggestions. What is the usual start time...is 8PM the start of the show?
Also, since my daily commuter is 4 miles round trip, what's the best bet to get up there? Google Maps is sending me either VA-267 W, Leesburg Pike/VA-7 or 495.
Finally, anyone need a spare? I think my wife is working late, so I'm solo. On the plus side, you get to site under the pavilion at a decent seat. Con: you have to sit next to me.
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I called Wolf Trap earlier.
Show starts at 8. Gates open at 6:30. Pavilion seats open at 7:30.
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I called Wolf Trap earlier.
Show starts at 8. Gates open at 6:30. Pavilion seats open at 7:30.
With an 11PM curfew the show is sure to start right at 8.
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For nkotb:
I'd recommend that you come by Leesburg Pike, since that puts you in the parking lot across the street. You can get a free ride up in a golf cart, and it's easier to get out of post-show.
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Well, I can't say last night was enjoyable. I don't know if I'm too curmudgeonly in my old age, but I think I may be done with live Wilco. It's not really their fault; I think this line-up is the strongest they've been in my short time digging them. I guess I'm just done with the set lists they play...I'm not sure how many more times I can hear Heavy Metal Drummer, and the ensuing roar from the crowd. I realize it's ok to get into a band after they get big (hell, I didn't give them a chance until Yankee Hotel Foxtrot), but really? They play this song every damn show. Wouldn't you want to hear something a little less...all the time?
My big problem, though, was Wolf Trap. Don't get me wrong, the venue is beautiful, it was easy to get to, and I certainly enjoyed the fact that you can bring booze in (thanks again, brennser!). Still, things got off to a really rough start:
1. Parking: So the place was apeshit by the time I got there (my fault, I can admit). I asked a cop for an idea of where to park, and he just shrugged. I ended up parking on the side of the road about a mile from the gates. Not that big of a deal, in the grand scheme of things, but it didn't get me too psyched.
2. Guards: I had an extra ticket I wanted to get rid of, so I walked up to the gate to try to sell it to someone. The first guy I encountered looking for a ticket was quickly stolen away by another guy selling...no biggie. I finally saw a group of kids looking dejected and even though it was just one ticket, I offered it to them for face, taking a hit on the fees. A guard promptly told me it was illegal to sell tickets and that I'd be arrested. "Oh, I was only trying to get the ticket price" I responded. I was then told that I'd be thrown in jail if I sold it. "Even at the exact cost of the ticket price?" "There are 50 guards watching, waiting to arrest you if you sell that ticket." I just gave the kids my extra, although then the guard made the other two get off the property for not having a ticket.
Look, I'm cool if the rule is no selling on federal land. My bad, I didn't realize that. But just fucking talk to someone like they're a human being. I asked a question because I didn't know. It's not my fault your bad life decisions force you to stand guard at a national park wearing a Ranger Smith get-up...you don't have to be a fucking bitch about it. Plus, if it's a national park, and you know, "we all own it," why not let those kids hang out?
3. Ushers: So I was in a pretty bad mood, even after the beer brennser gave me, and was starting to feel a little better because the usher that showed me my seat was so nice. Then, 10 minutes into the show, I get tapped on the shoulder by a guard demanding my camera. "I don't have a camera on me." "Then what was that light I saw?" "My cellphone?" "Ok...but I'm watching you." This was then followed by almost everyone around me taking flash photography. But the final straw was a guard tapping me later on and asking what I was smoking. Well, it was nothing, and to the best of my knowledge, I didn't even see a lit cigarette in my section.
By this time, I was so soured I couldn't break my funk. I know, it's my fault for not letting it go, but it pretty much spoiled the rest of the night for me. I don't want to get all Thousand Made-Up Loves and whatnot, but I don't think I'd ever go to Wolf Trap again. Oh, and there was shitty traffic in Alexandria on 495 that caused me to get home about 40 minutes after I should have. I blame Wolf Trap for that too.
Now, before sweetcell or someone else gets all "here's the logical list of why this is the best venue," I realize that it was seemingly my bad luck that caused all of that. Still, fuck that place.
Did I miss anything good after Heavy Metal Drummer?
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I cannot even imagine how horrible it is to go there when it's sold out. Sorry the ushers and the guards were dicks.
I think I was done with Wilco live a few years ago after seeing them at Merriweather. They're good and all, but I don't need to see them more than the 4 times I saw them....
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ugh, sounds sucky. makes me a little less interested in checking out the venue. rude and annoying trumps pretty.
Well, I can't say last night was enjoyable. I don't know if I'm too curmudgeonly in my old age, but I think I may be done with live Wilco. It's not really their fault; I think this line-up is the strongest they've been in my short time digging them. I guess I'm just done with the set lists they play...I'm not sure how many more times I can hear Heavy Metal Drummer, and the ensuing roar from the crowd. I realize it's ok to get into a band after they get big (hell, I didn't give them a chance until Yankee Hotel Foxtrot), but really? They play this song every damn show. Wouldn't you want to hear something a little less...all the time?
yo're the victim of bad luck... (http://www.wilcobase.com/songs_played.php?&artist_key=2&start_year=2009&start_month=6&start_day=12&end_year=2009&end_month=7&end_day=9&tour_key=&sort_col=2&sort_dir=d) they've played HMD at less than half the shows this tour.
Now, before sweetcell or someone else gets all "here's the logical list of why this is the best venue,"
:D
i've never been to WT so i can't comment. you're not the first to point out how douchy the staff there can be, so you're on to something. it's sad that such a beautiful venue is ruined by its employees (vs. other venues, like the 930, which are made better by their employees).
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Thanks, nkotb, for making me feel better for skipping this concert. I'm a big Wilco fan, but I've seen them 8 times in the past 5 years. I skipped their previous show in the area at the Lyric Opera House and I skipped this one too. I'm kind of taking a break from Wilco. Their set lists were getting stale. I completely agree with you on "Heavy Metal Drummer" too.
That said, with the new album, I probably would have broken down and gone to this show if it had been at Merriweather or the 9:30 Club instead of Wolf Trap. Like you said, Wolf Trap is a beautiful venue, but, in my experience, parking there is incredibly annoying unless you get their really early and then getting out of there after the show is time consuming. It's not as bad as Nissan, but it's still aggravating.
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My incredibly brief thoughts:
Good show, not so great setlist.
Good venue, shitty parking lot.
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Well, I can't say last night was enjoyable. I don't know if I'm too curmudgeonly in my old age, but I think I may be done with live Wilco. It's not really their fault; I think this line-up is the strongest they've been in my short time digging them. I guess I'm just done with the set lists they play...I'm not sure how many more times I can hear Heavy Metal Drummer, and the ensuing roar from the crowd. I realize it's ok to get into a band after they get big (hell, I didn't give them a chance until Yankee Hotel Foxtrot), but really? They play this song every damn show. Wouldn't you want to hear something a little less...all the time?
My big problem, though, was Wolf Trap. Don't get me wrong, the venue is beautiful, it was easy to get to, and I certainly enjoyed the fact that you can bring booze in (thanks again, brennser!). Still, things got off to a really rough start:
1. Parking: So the place was apeshit by the time I got there (my fault, I can admit). I asked a cop for an idea of where to park, and he just shrugged. I ended up parking on the side of the road about a mile from the gates. Not that big of a deal, in the grand scheme of things, but it didn't get me too psyched.
2. Guards: I had an extra ticket I wanted to get rid of, so I walked up to the gate to try to sell it to someone. The first guy I encountered looking for a ticket was quickly stolen away by another guy selling...no biggie. I finally saw a group of kids looking dejected and even though it was just one ticket, I offered it to them for face, taking a hit on the fees. A guard promptly told me it was illegal to sell tickets and that I'd be arrested. "Oh, I was only trying to get the ticket price" I responded. I was then told that I'd be thrown in jail if I sold it. "Even at the exact cost of the ticket price?" "There are 50 guards watching, waiting to arrest you if you sell that ticket." I just gave the kids my extra, although then the guard made the other two get off the property for not having a ticket.
Look, I'm cool if the rule is no selling on federal land. My bad, I didn't realize that. But just fucking talk to someone like they're a human being. I asked a question because I didn't know. It's not my fault your bad life decisions force you to stand guard at a national park wearing a Ranger Smith get-up...you don't have to be a fucking bitch about it. Plus, if it's a national park, and you know, "we all own it," why not let those kids hang out?
3. Ushers: So I was in a pretty bad mood, even after the beer brennser gave me, and was starting to feel a little better because the usher that showed me my seat was so nice. Then, 10 minutes into the show, I get tapped on the shoulder by a guard demanding my camera. "I don't have a camera on me." "Then what was that light I saw?" "My cellphone?" "Ok...but I'm watching you." This was then followed by almost everyone around me taking flash photography. But the final straw was a guard tapping me later on and asking what I was smoking. Well, it was nothing, and to the best of my knowledge, I didn't even see a lit cigarette in my section.
By this time, I was so soured I couldn't break my funk. I know, it's my fault for not letting it go, but it pretty much spoiled the rest of the night for me. I don't want to get all Thousand Made-Up Loves and whatnot, but I don't think I'd ever go to Wolf Trap again. Oh, and there was shitty traffic in Alexandria on 495 that caused me to get home about 40 minutes after I should have. I blame Wolf Trap for that too.
Now, before sweetcell or someone else gets all "here's the logical list of why this is the best venue," I realize that it was seemingly my bad luck that caused all of that. Still, fuck that place.
Did I miss anything good after Heavy Metal Drummer?
youre too curmudgeonly
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Stay off my lawn!
youre too curmudgeonly
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Man some people are impossible to please!
NKOTB I wouldn't say you come off as curmudgeonly more like an asshole mixed with idiot!
This was my third time seeing Wilco. I think I also saw Tweedy at the club once... First time I saw Wilco was 99 front row (excellent)..second time was Recher a year or two after...
This is the definitely the tightest they have ever sounded.....I happen to prefer the more ragged rock and rollsy 1999 version but thats just me..
Its the classic hipster whine "Oh no they are playing the songs everyone else wants to hear but I'm so cool I already heard them so play something else...".. AND THEY PLAYED FIVE SONGS FROM THE NEW ALBUM THAT THEY HAVE NEVER PLAYED in DC.. Maybe you were already driving home or too busy getting into fights with VOLUNTEER ushers???
It was a good setlist.. No doubt without the curfew they would have played 6 more songs and maybe NKOTB would have been happy.. oh no wait he would have left to start typing his bitch post on the 930 forum.
I don't see how anyone can have a problem with WOlftrap.. they offer public transportation... they let you bring your food and everything..its a gorgeous national park..the acoustics are great.. I mean shit man.. guess you'll just have to go to Nissan for a good time! oh yah and you could get 10th row center tickets for $38 (Oh yah they also minimize ticket fees/dont' charge for parking/facility fee/etc).... geez sounds rough man..
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Hutch, in my defense, I only typed up my message this morning. Also, I didn't fight with anyone...I was polite, obeyed the rules (once they were explained to me through the threat of jail time). In fact, I didn't say anything remotely curt or snarky to anyone; I'm too nice. So obviously your entire post is null and void. Also, eat it.
I know it's tough when someone wasn't absolutely in love with something you were obviously creaming your pants over, but it's all opinion, man. In fact, I think I pointed out that 1) I was to blame for my funk, 2) that the band's current lineup is incredibly strong, and 3) that I'm as much of a new fan as the next guy.
Man some people are impossible to please!
NKOTB I wouldn't say you come off as curmudgeonly more like an asshole mixed with idiot!
This was my third time seeing Wilco. I think I also saw Tweedy at the club once... First time I saw Wilco was 99 front row (excellent)..second time was Recher a year or two after...
This is the definitely the tightest they have ever sounded.....I happen to prefer the more ragged rock and rollsy 1999 version but thats just me..
Its the classic hipster whine "Oh no they are playing the songs everyone else wants to hear but I'm so cool I already heard them so play something else...".. AND THEY PLAYED FIVE SONGS FROM THE NEW ALBUM THAT THEY HAVE NEVER PLAYED in DC. MORON. Maybe you were already driving home or too busy getting into fights with VOLUNTEER ushers???
It was a good setlist.. No doubt without the curfew they would have played 6 more songs and maybe NKOTB would have been happy.. oh no wait he would have left to start typing his bitch post on the 930 forum.
I don't see how anyone can have a problem with WOlftrap.. they offer public transportation... they let you bring your food and everything..its a gorgeous national park..the acoustics are great.. I mean shit man.. guess you'll just have to go to Nissan for a good time! oh yah and you could get 10th row center tickets for $38 (Oh yah they also minimize ticket fees/dont' charge for parking/facility fee/etc).... geez sounds rough man..
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NKOTB I actually am not in love with Wilco or creaming my pants..In fact I got some reservations about the band..
I mean you are complaining about the setlist when there were many new songs?? You complain about just about everything but then "Its my fault"???
Well YEAH DUH Its your fault..
If you'd spent half the time that you spent thinking over your post and typing it out (geez its like a friggin essay!) on planning your trip out to Wolftrap you might have had a good time!
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nkotb, sounds like you made a couple of rookie mistakes. i bitched about rnr hotel last month in the same fashion, so to each their own
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NKOTB I actually am not in love with Wilco or creaming my pants
You do love them, you want to marry them and have like 10,000 of their babies.
YOu're just a moron plain and simple
Now that's just mean and I think my mother would respectfully disagree with you.
I mean you are complaining about the setlist when there were many new songs?? You complain about just about everything but then "Its my fault"???
Well YEAH DUH Its your fault..
Right...I know I'm being a prick because the venue rubbed me the wrong way (even though I tried to break through my funk and say it was beautiful and I loved the ability to bring in food and drink). It's my fault that I held a grudge and ruined my night. Also, maybe it doesn't help that the new songs aren't that great. Just sayin'...
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ugh! sorry to hear you had such a crappy experience, nkotb. (and let's be honest, we all do every now & then.) at least we have ween to look forward to!!!
i had a great time at the show-- the band IS so tight-- but i tend to agree about the setlist. HOWEVER, i can't explain how thrilled i was to hear "how to fight lonEliness." i even teared up.
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Did anyone see the guy with the ski hat, goggles on the hat, a dozen wristbands on each arm and about 10 necklaces? Hipsters are fucking clowns
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Dude, that was me!
Did anyone see the guy with the ski hat, goggles on the hat, a dozen wristbands on each arm and about 10 necklaces? Hipsters are fucking clowns
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NKOTB I actually am not in love with Wilco or creaming my pants
You do love them, you want to marry them and have like 10,000 of their babies.
Maybe the night of the show at 930 where old 97s opened..back in 99..touring summer teeth.. with jay bennett in the band... maybe then I would have wanted to marry them.. but we'd have divorced when YHF came out...
I've hardly listened to Wilco the past 8 years... The new album I think is good.. underwhelming initially... its an attempt to go back to Summer Teeth...
Its the bitching bout Wolftrap that I just can't take...more than anything its that... I mean there were a lot of people there last night that had never been there before and it was a sold out show (super sold out)... the place strains a bit to meet that scenario... but compared to Nissan its paradise!!!!!!! I mean come on! Lets be real here...
And maybe its because I live in DC but for me getting to Wolftrap compared to Merriweather is so much easier.. I don't have to drive and I can get there in 60 minutes at the most!
Not to mention subsidized ticket prices, getting to bring your own food and beer (its not just that its cheap its that I get to decide what I want to eat and drink!)
Really to whine about wolftrap just demonstrates a lack of appreciation for the finer things in life. I know it sounds harsh but thats the way I see it. Its the equivalent of someone who prefers to eat at McDonalds to Fogo de Chao. Sure, those people exist but come one lets call it what it is.. idiocy.
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Did anyone see the guy with the ski hat, goggles on the hat, a dozen wristbands on each arm and about 10 necklaces? Hipsters are fucking clowns
yes, what an asshat
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so I think I fall somewhere in the middle of these opinions on the show - haven't seen Wilco in a loooong time, definitely 5+ years and was tempted by seeing them in a great location like Wolf Trap
the place was PACKED - we ended up on the upper lawn w/ no view of the stage but thats the beauty of Wolf Trap, when the weather is nice you just lie back with your honey and listen to the music
I thought the set list was ok, obviously bands tend to play more stuff from their new(er) albums but I'm an AM, Being There, Summerteeth kinda guy, not in an "I knew them back in the day" way, - I just prefer that sound, especially live
jesus, imagine how pissed off nkotb would have been without a beer!! ;D
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This forum's got such negative posters. Wilco is at their peak now as far as putting on a good show. The setlist was really good IMO - it was nice hearing the new songs. Tweedy and gang have added some rock star moves to the show, which while kind of cheesy add to the enjoyment of the show. I have no doubt they know how cheesy it is too - but like I said it's all in fun. Tweedy interacts pretty naturally with the crowd now. No problems at all with the venue - parking was very easy to get into and out of, beautiful grounds. I would've liked a little more volume, but that's just me at about 75% of the shows I go to.
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i remember seeing wilco around 6 years ago and thinking 'too many slow songs'. this time i though they could have played more via chicago types. a minor cpmplaint if even a complaint
i love wolf trap, but we go at least once a year. i've got all of the secrets down
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I know it sounds harsh but thats the way I see it.
Well, yeah, you are really starting to bust his ****s right about now...he had a rough night, he was looking forward to it and was hassled a few times but he tried to remain positive. Maybe, let it go too? I think we're all a little riled up after the "I hate VL" thread or whatever. Just let others vent in a mature manner when they need. As someone else said, sometimes there are off nights in experience and perspective.
Sorry for your off-night nkotb. Hey, the weather was perfect though!
I have seen Wilco only once, and wasn't that into the performance. (maybe I had an off night too. ;))
Perhaps if you do choose to go to WT again, you know the "ins/outs" it may prove better?
(gods you'll have to share "secrets" with me sometime b/c I'm not one for pkg / volunteer nonsense either)
I do like what I hear from the new album. I haven't listened to much to Conor...any reviews of him?
Also, what were the set times/length?
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the first thing is get there early and park in the lot across the street. you get out really fast and yeah you have to walk back, but you can take the golf cart up
ok, thats the second thing after bring your own beer
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> I haven't listened to much to Conor...any reviews of him?
I liked him at first, until someone else started to sing and he still wanted to be the center of attention. Songs sounded good, though.
> Also, what were the set times/length?
Conor on: 7:56, off 8:40
Wilco on: 9:01, off ? (left before end)
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conor was unbearable..
wilco...well very predictable setlist. I really should have stayed home.
if I have one advice to them: Retire those Yankee songs and play songs from Summerteeth or Being There or even Mermaid Avenue collaborations...surprise me, wilco, surprise me, but you don't ever...except that last 930 club show(s)....
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thanks, all.
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Also, it was too cold ;D
Sorry for your off-night nkotb. Hey, the weather was perfect though!
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wilco...well very predictable setlist. I really should have stayed home.
this, from the wilcodude?!?
i hereby label this show a disaster.
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i got sick and couldn't go :(
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"Phenomenal" says this guy:
http://www.examiner.com/x-4555-DC-Live-Music-Clubs-Examiner~y2009m7d9-Wilco-at-Wolf-Trap-review-782009
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Well, you missed Misunderstood and Spiders (kidsmoke)...always good to hear.
Couple singing to lyrics of Heavy Metal Drummer = disgusting. UGH.
nkotb: what should be our Wilco love song? You pick between:
Nothing'severgonnastandinmyway(again) or Reservations ??
Did I miss anything good after Heavy Metal Drummer?
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Other than stressing that Tweedy more than holds his own against Cline, that was a pretty accurate review from an obvious fan.
Wilco IS predictable in their setlist - the most you can hope for is maybe 1 or 2 seldom played songs. And they played that with "how to fight loneliness". Anyone expecting a lot of songs off AM and Being There is setting themselves up for disappointment - why even do that?
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Take a look at this last 930 club show :o I am totally fine with the Summerteeth songs!
Wilco @ 9:30 Club - 2/27/08
SETLIST: Sunken Treasure / Remember the Mountain Bed / Company in My Back / You Are My Face / Side with the Seeds / She's a Jar / A Shot in the Arm / Nothing'severgonnastandinmyway (Again) / Handshake Drugs / Pot Kettle Black / When the Roses Bloom Again / Impossible Germany / It's Just that Simple / Someday Soon / Box Full of Letters / I'm Always in Love / Pieholden Suite / Jesus, etc. / Hate it Here / Walken / I'm the Man That Loves You / Hummingbird / On and On and On // Via Chicago / California Stars // Casino Queen / I'm a Wheel / Monday
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That is a great setlist - I can see why that show would have spoiled you. I was hoping for Sunken Treasure and I Must be High last night.
I guess my only point is that Wilco does so much right that to emphasize any negatives comes off as whining.
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to be fair that show was in between albums where as (the album) came out last week
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I know it sounds harsh but thats the way I see it.
Well, yeah, you are really starting to bust his ****s right about now...he had a rough night, he was looking forward to it and was hassled a few times but he tried to remain positive. Maybe, let it go too? I think we're all a little riled up after the "I hate VL" thread or whatever. Just let others vent in a mature manner when they need. As someone else said, sometimes there are off nights in experience and perspective.
Did somebody vent in a mature matter??! I missed that...
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wow
Take a look at this last 930 club show :o I am totally fine with the Summerteeth songs!
Wilco @ 9:30 Club - 2/27/08
SETLIST: Sunken Treasure / Remember the Mountain Bed / Company in My Back / You Are My Face / Side with the Seeds / She's a Jar / A Shot in the Arm / Nothing'severgonnastandinmyway (Again) / Handshake Drugs / Pot Kettle Black / When the Roses Bloom Again / Impossible Germany / It's Just that Simple / Someday Soon / Box Full of Letters / I'm Always in Love / Pieholden Suite / Jesus, etc. / Hate it Here / Walken / I'm the Man That Loves You / Hummingbird / On and On and On // Via Chicago / California Stars // Casino Queen / I'm a Wheel / Monday
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i was there, my first and only wilco concert to date. i thought it was a great show but didn't realize it was extraordinarily good... cool.
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well, there was a 2/26/08 show as well...did you go 1st or 2nd night? :)
i was there, my first and only wilco concert to date. i thought it was a great show but didn't realize it was extraordinarily good... cool.
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yup, i'm aware it was a 2-night stand. i was there the second night.
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last night makes the 12th or 13th time i've seen wilco live. i had a fantastic time at the show. it was my second time at wolf trap in three years and i really did enjoy myself. other than the dork who tried to cut in line in front of me for the bathroom, i have no real complaints.
the place was PACKED - we ended up on the upper lawn w/ no view of the stage but thats the beauty of Wolf Trap, when the weather is nice you just lie back with your honey and listen to the music
yes, the lawns were packed. i'm willing to bet more than a few people did what my friends and i did: buy tickets in the seated area and grab a spot on the lawn. with a $6 different in price, i just considered it rain insurance.
to be fair that show was in between albums where as (the album) came out last week
yes, wilco's set lists tend to rely on a lot of favorites with a few gems here and there. the set list from february 2008 that was posted was only a few months after their "residency" in chicago -- so they had polished up on their entire collection. now, they're out to promote a new record. as mentioned, it's a totally different goal of the concert.
i had no problem with the staff at wolf trap or any of the fans. i even high-fived a young park ranger on the way out to the car. i was surprised by the amount of pot in the lawn, though, to be honest. the weather was gorgeous and the sound quality was fantastic. great night.
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I completely agree with the commenter from the Washington Post review:
"meh. the concert was average. a bit rushed and tight. perhaps the 11pm curfew killed the mood."
Show was also 3-6 songs shorter than the other setlists of this tour.
/end rant
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i like that the post has stopped using caps
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i like that the post has stopped using caps
It actually was from the comment section of the article/review.
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and here i was all ready to compliment to post on their "meh" usage. bummer
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and here i was all ready to compliment to post on their "meh" usage. bummer
:D The following was posted after the 'meh' comment on the Post...
"I find it best to ignore any post, in any section, that starts with the word "meh".
Posted by: sonnyjurg | July 10, 2009 10:34 AM"
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"Meh" is as bad as the
blah blah BLAH blah blah NOT SO MUCH
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http://trianglemusic.blogspot.com/2010/01/wilco-sets-dpac-record-for-fastest-sell.html
Wilco sets DPAC record for fastest sell out
Most people expected Wilco tickets to go fast for their upcoming show at the Durham Performing Arts Center, but 17 minutes is a bit shocking. The show, slated for Saturday, March 27, set a DPAC record for fastest sell out ever with that 17 minute sell. DPAC general manager Bob Klauss is said "The DPAC staff and I will work hard to make sure we?re great hosts to the very lucky 2,700 fans who got tickets to this special show.?
TicketsNow, a wholly owned Ticketmaster subsidiary
(http://www.ticketsnow.com/InventoryBrowse/Wilco-Tickets-at-Durham-Performing-Arts-Center-in-Durham), had 146 tickets total for sale yesterday between $74 and $306 each of this "sold out" show.
CenterStage Seats, which is throwing links on craigslist (http://centerstageseats.com/ResultsTicket.aspx?evtid=1269128&event=Wilco) had 276 tickets as of yesterday for between $100 and $558.
Then there's the eBay owned StubHub (http://www.stubhub.com/wilco-tickets/wilco-durham-durham-performing-arts-center-3-27-2010-926990/) which had at least 316 tickets for $75 to $308.
And there were 25 or so on eBay for between $50 and $200 each.
There's nearly 763 seats of a 2700-seat capacity venue accounted for right now, which is nearly a third of total possible seats available.
These are numbers from just three different secondary sales sites that I have heard about, not counting tickets that haven't yet been made available on secondary sales sites or are being sold on sites I've never heard of.
There will be a batch of tickets that will be made available just before the show. How many? No one knows. How many were allocated to the DPAC presale? How many to Wilco? How many at the box office (where I paid exactly $35 each with no tax or additional fees or charge where they also printed out real paper tickets at no additional charge amazingly enough)? After getting burned by both websites during the pre-sales, I decided to drive to the DPAC and wait. I was maybe 10th person in line and checked ticketmaster.com from my phone at 10:06 and there were no tickets available. People in line a few spots ahead of me were unable to buy blocks of 4 or more seats together because they were unavailable.
I know a lot of people that were completely unable to get tickets despite trying to get in on both pre-sales and the general sale. Still, of course, a third of the tickets were purchased and are being scalped at ridiculous prices by those with no intention of actually attending the show.
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There's nearly 763 seats of a 2700-seat capacity venue accounted for right now, which is nearly a third of total possible seats available.
"Thanks for the due diligence digging up all of these numbers. Scalpers are definitely a blight on the concert industry and needs to be squashed. A lot of it is aided by ticketing companies, promoters and tour acts (not that I would suspect Wilco would be one of them). The 700+ is quite a bit high though because many of the listings on TicketsNow, StubHub and CenterStage are identical, so they're scalpers trying to move one set of tickets on multiple sites for a quick sale."