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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: TimCooke on February 26, 2008, 03:58:00 pm
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Take a look at what they are doing with Trades today. They are instantly making themsleves better!
C-A-P-S CAPS CAPS CAPS!
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going to the game tonight, should be fun
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I wanted the Wings to get Federov back but he's a good pickup for the Caps, as is Huet.
Pittsburgh sold the farm for Hossa. They cannot possibly resign him with Crosby, Malkin and Staal needing deals. It'd be $30mil+ for 4 guys. They're going for it this year.
Wings got Stuart who's an OK depth-defenseman (could be with Kronwall on the second d pairing) but I wanted Olli Jokinen or Federov for a little offensive punch for the second line.
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Alright Pens! why not go for it? They already have the two (of the) best players in the game. Let's bring Lord Stanley back to Burgh!
Can't wait to be there March 9 when the Pens fans take over the Verizon Center in the Clash of the Russians....
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Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
why not go for it?
I guess I wouldn't have traded away that many players for a rental you (in all likelihood) cannot resign when you don't have a goalie or defense that looks playoff-worthy. On offense, no one will be able to touch this team but defense wins championships. The East is wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide open though, so I wouldn't be surprised if they got to the Cup finals.
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biggest headscratcher of the day - Bryce Salvador for Cam Jannsen, what are the Blues thinking
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It doesn't matter. Teemu and Scotty are back. To back.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
It doesn't matter. Teemu and Scotty are back. To back.
Not happening. Guaranteed.
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Vansmack 1
Rest of the Board 0 (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013957;p=1)
Originally posted by vansmack:
I know coming from me it means absolutely nothing, but this is the Ducks year!
<img src="http://byfiles.storage.msn.com/y1p7o9R6Nw3-cFWztxNFjXsVEfR6qVIMaXyCcNuf9h3BY_kVlQ9yjMSHi6TuMIwEErw" alt=" - " />
Plus I get to break out this glorious photo...
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too much for hossa. agreed there
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Not happening. Guaranteed.
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
why not go for it?
I guess I wouldn't have traded away that many players for a rental you (in all likelihood) cannot resign when you don't have a goalie or defense that looks playoff-worthy. On offense, no one will be able to touch this team but defense wins championships. The East is wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide open though, so I wouldn't be surprised if they got to the Cup finals. [/b]
Crazy talk:
Christensen is a center who will never get a chance here with Sid, Malkin & Staal.
Armstrong is a solid 3rd line player. Not at all an integral piece.
Esposito is potential only. He fell to the Pens last year for a reason.
Next year's draft pick will be high. It's not like they are trading another Crosby. Again potential only.
So basically they traded a couple third/4th liners for one of the best forwards in the game to play beside the best player in the game.
What's not to like? They are already @ the top of the Eastern Conference. Now you add Hossa, Sid coming back, hopefully Roberts for playoffs & a goalie that won 40 games last year (Fleury.)
It's an exciting deal reminiscent of the trades Craig Patrick pulled to bring the Pens their Cups in the 90's.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Crazy talk:
Christensen is center who will never get a chance here with Sid, Malkin & Staal.
Armstrong is a solid 3rd player. Not at all an integral piece.
Esposito is potential only. He fell to the Pens last year for a reason.
Next year's draft pick will be high. It's not like they are trading another Crosby. Again potential only.
So basically they traded a couple third/4th liners for one of the best forwards in the game to play beside the best player in the game.
What's not to like? They are already @ the top of the Eastern Conference. Now you add Hossa, Sid coming back, hopefully Roberts for playoffs & a goalie that won 40 games last year (Fleury.)
It's an exciting deal reminiscent of the trades Craig Patrick pulled to bring the Pens their Cups in the 90's.
pens also traded their 2nd and 5th round picks for hal gill. i think it's the whole combination of the 3 players, plus 3 picks. . .for a rental and hal gill.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
pens also traded their 2nd and 5th round picks for hal gill. i think it's the whole combination of the 3 players, plus 3 picks. . .for a rental and hal gill.
Gotta give to get. And there's wasn't a player given away that approaches Hossa's level.
Hossa addresses the one major team need: a great wing for Sid. Now the Pens roll two amazing lines (like all the great teams did.)
If they win the Cup - it was a steal.
You also gotta think Hossa is going to LOVE playing with Crosby. Maybe too much to leave.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
If they win the Cup - it was a steal.
You also gotta think Hossa is going to LOVE playing with Crosby. Maybe too much to leave.
You're delusional. Any team from the East will be slaughtered in the Cup finals against Anaheim/Detroit/Dallas/San Jose, especially if Fleury is the goaltender.
And as I said, Hossa is a rental. Financially, a team cannot sign Hossa, Crosby, Malkin, and Staal to longterm deals and hope to have anything but AHL-quality players rounding out their lineup. Also, I guess I missed that year Hossa actually showed up for the playoffs.
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
If they win the Cup - it was a steal.
You also gotta think Hossa is going to LOVE playing with Crosby. Maybe too much to leave.
You're delusional. Any team from the East will be slaughtered in the Cup finals against Anaheim/Detroit/Dallas/San Jose, especially if Fleury is the goaltender.
And as I said, Hossa is a rental. Financially, a team cannot sign Hossa, Crosby, Malkin, and Staal to longterm deals and hope to have anything but AHL-quality players rounding out their lineup. Also, I guess I missed that year Hossa actually showed up for the playoffs. [/b]
I forwarded your comments to Mario Lemieux asking him to consider you for the position of General Manager.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
I forwarded your comments to Mario Lemieux asking him to consider you for the position of General Manager.
Oh, well thank you. Please include on my cover letter that I finished third in the 2005-2006 9:30 Club NHL Fantasy League and have a perfect season on EA's NHL 2006 for Playstation 2.
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i dont understand why you go for broke when you have three very young stars/near stars
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A conclusive list of comments from hockeybuzz.com about the Hossa trade:
Bruins fan-
The B's didn't screw anything up, the Pens are morons, the Sabres and Habs are worse then they were yesterday.
Maple Leafs fan-
Pittsburgh got screwed. Getting Hossa was a mistake. If they really wanted to do themselves some good, they should have paid that price for Brad Richards. Yeah, it would have cost them, but it would have been much more worthwhile to get in on Richards than Hossa.
Habs fan-
Pittsburg is nuts to give up what they did for a rental player.
Leafs fan-
Pittsburgh does not want to take on that much salary for that long having to break the bank for Malkin soon. I can see the Pens getting setup to trade Malkin this summer and signing Hossa for a cheaper deal. I don't see how the Pens can pay Crosby close to 9 million and Malkin possibly getting 10+.
Wings fan-
It'll look a lot better if they can resign both Hossa and Malkin for the next few seasons, otherwise it does indeed look like a mistake
Pens fan-
How did the Penguins make such a big mistake? Yea we paid a lot...but look at our team RIGHT now?
Habs fan-
PS. the Pens are crazy for that move. I hope you win the cup, actually wait that wont happen, i hope you get into the finals vs Anaheim because otherwise you just made the worst deal of the year.
Flyers fan-
The Pens overpaid waaaaayyyyy too much for Hossa. At least the Flyers were the sane organization in the commonwealth today.
Pens fan-
Two third line wingers (at best), a 1st round pick in 2009 and a kid who's been cut three times by the Candian Junior squad is overpaying? I honestly think we can sign Hossa to an extension and keep Malkin when the time comes, so this deal is fine by me. I don't think Shero would have made the deal if he didnt think he could get Hossa signed (if he decides he'd like to stay here). The cap space for this team will be fine with Roberts, Orpik, Colby ($1.25 million per haha, what a joke) and others coming off the budget at the end of the year.
Flames fan-
I don't understand Pittsburgh overpaying for an unneeded rental scorer (Hossa), especially with Crosby coming back soon. They had other needs that could have been addressed with everything they gave up. Lack of scoring wasn't exactly their main issue. But maybe they think they can take the East this year...
Flyers fan-
If Shero can get Hossa to sign a long term deal then good on ya.
I still think it was way too much to give up for your team at this time. It's not like you were this one particular piece away from winning a cup.
Sabres fan-
Look at Hossa disappear in the playoffs -- I hope they can afford to resign him -- or they lost alot for a 1st round exit
Flames fan-
If they had desperately needed a scorer...I'd perhaps understand it more. As it is, that sure seems like a lot to give up for a rental player they didn't really need up front.
Campbell actually would have made more sense for them as a rental. Or even Richards, though I know there's no way they could bring THAT contract in.
Just seems an odd deal, to me.
Isles fan-
if Hossa leaves, ouch.
Pens fan-
all the rumors had Staal going the other way so if I had a choice between that package or one that included Staal then I think it was a steal.
Plus the two other teams rumored for Hossa was MTL and OTT and thats another reason I like this deal.
Flames fan-
a rental winger, for 2 or 3 months? There was no under-contract player that could be found that might play with Crosby next year too? For what you gave up? Or some help on D?
Obviously, a deep playoff run or a Cup erases all concern. But was forward scoring Pitts' biggest hole? I have trouble believing that...
Isles fan-
an awful lot to pay and you didn't address your goaltending situation. Conklin will fall and Fluery sucks.... the Pens are front loaded but nothing substantial on the back end. Whitney and Gonchar are a good pairing but after that, a little thin.
Pens fan-
Colby and Dupuis is equal. Christensen for Hossa. I dont see what we lost that we cant replace. The time is now in Pittsburgh. Espo might be good but Shero was shopping him all day. Makes you wonder?
Rangers fan-
With Hossa I don't consider Pittsburgh a threat. Their defense is weak and their goaltending is shaky.
Predators fan-
It's this years "Forsberg deal". For your sake, I hope this one works out better.
Short version: no non-Penguins fan said it was a good deal. OTOH, no one had a bad thing to say about Dallas or San Jose's big moves, just to put the tenor of the board in perspective.
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
going to the game tonight, should be fun
what an ass whupping last night, the wild look dead in the water
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Short version: no non-Penguins fan said it was a good deal. OTOH, no one had a bad thing to say about Dallas or San Jose's big moves, just to put the tenor of the board in perspective.
hahahahahah...messageboard posts from opposing fans as evidence. awesome
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
hahahahahah...messageboard posts from opposing fans as evidence. awesome
It's anecdotal evidence of what the common opinion is. As I said, there's no groundswell of idiots saying Dallas or San Jose or Washington were stupid with their blockbuster trades yet overwhelmingly people think the Hossa trade either "didn't fill their need" or was a "massive overpayment on a rental." Why such a disparity? Does all of the NHL suffer from Pittsburgh Pen(i)s envy?
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Short version: no non-Penguins fan said it was a good deal. OTOH, no one had a bad thing to say about Dallas or San Jose's big moves, just to put the tenor of the board in perspective.
hahahahahah...messageboard posts from opposing fans as evidence. awesome [/b]
ESPN rated it the best trade with highest potential impact.
Barry Melrose said they are now the best team in the East. I'll take the experts opinions over a bunch of fans who wish their team had done something/anything to improve.
Heard last night that Montreal had already printed up Hossa jerseys. Guess they can send those to Africa along with the 19-0 shirts.
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i generally agree that the pens overpaid on a huge gamble, but who cares what ihaztehhabs22 or rangersrool91 think
pittsburgh papers like it too
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Barry Melrose said they are now the best team in the East.
"Pittsburgh's taking a big chance... when they don't resign Hossa, it'll be a terrible deal, but Pittsburgh had some guts." - Barry Melrose, literally 30 seconds ago on Sportscenter.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i generally agree that the pens overpaid on a huge gamble, but who cares what ihaztehhabs22 or rangersrool91 think
Who cares what god's shoeshine or Julian, good manners AFICIONADO thinks?
If people on that site were trashing every big trade made by every team except their own, then I'd agree with you it's biased and not worthy of consideration, but just because someone's a Rangers fan doesn't mean they can't point out the obvious.
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no, but i'd wager it means they dont watch the pens unless they are playing the rangers
and no, no one cares what either of us think
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
no, but i'd wager it means they dont watch the pens unless they are playing the rangers
In my experience, NHL fans are the most knowledgeable about their sport. Still, I respect your opinion about the merits of my corroborating evidence.
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who cares about all that hossa talk. im just glad to see the avs picked up forsberg again (who knows if he'll ever be as good as he once was), and also picked up foote once again. maybe they should just pick up drury from the rangers and take back the cup again! :)
wishful thinking since my kings dont have a chance in hell except for being the worst team this year :)
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
who cares about all that hossa talk. im just glad to see the avs picked up forsberg again (who knows if he'll ever be as good as he once was), and also picked up foote once again. maybe they should just pick up drury from the rangers and take back the cup again! :)
They should see if Roy wants back in. The Avs look amazing... if this was 1997. Signing Forsberg is throwing cash away at this point.
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Amen:
Shero's bold moves were the right ones
Wednesday, February 27, 2008
By Bob Smizik, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08058/860692-194.stm (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08058/860692-194.stm)
There will be people who insist Penguins general manager Ray Shero made a mistake in trading for free-agent-to-be Marian Hossa because it's just not smart hockey to deal for such a player unless a team is on the cusp of Stanley Cup championship contention.
Those people are missing the point.
The Penguins are on the cusp of playing for the greatest team trophy in all of sports.
That's why Shero made the trade. That's why he must be saluted today for having the courage to pull the trigger on a deal that brings to the Penguins exactly the kind of winger Sidney Crosby needs.
It would have been easy for Shero to stick to his master plan of patiently developing the Penguins' mother lode of wondrous talent and seek a championship further down the road. But he has been watching the same hockey we've all been watching of late, which means it's easy to see why he came to the conclusion this team was ready to win this year, not in 2009 or '10.
Shero has seen an injury-ravaged team play just about as well as any club in the Eastern Conference. He has seen it more than hold its own without Crosby. He had the foresight to realize that with Crosby and now with Hossa the Penguins have the potential not just to be good but to be great.
Who knows what the future might bring in terms of injury or defection. This year, the talent is here. The time to strike was now.
Yes, the price was steep. Just a few minutes before yesterday's 3 p.m. trading deadline, Shero sent two of the team's top nine forwards, Colby Armstrong and Erik Christensen; last year's No. 1 draft choice, Angelo Esposito; and the team's first pick in the 2008 draft to the Atlanta Thrashers.
The price is steeper still because there is no guarantee Hossa will re-sign with the Penguins.
Still, the deal was a good one and potentially a great one. It's a deal people might be talking about for decades. It's a deal that can put the Penguins into the Stanley Cup final.
The Penguins aren't just a better team today than they were before 3 p.m. yesterday, they could well be the best team in the Eastern Conference.
In addition to Hossa, the Penguins acquired Pascal Dupuis, a small, speedy forward whose strength is on the penalty kill from the Thrashers. In another deal, Shero gave up second- and fifth-round draft choices to Toronto for 6-foot-7, 250-pound defenseman Hal Gill, who is as slow as he is big. Gill gives the Penguins a physical presence it lacked, but him being slow on his skates is not in sync with their style.
Those who might think Shero mortgaged the team's future for nothing more than a possible chance at glory this year need to rethink their premise. Armstrong and Christensen were complementary players. They can be replaced. Giving up first-round draft choices can be dangerous, but let's not forget that from 1996-2001 the Penguins' No. 1 picks were Craig Hillier, Robert Dome, Milan Kraft, Konstantin Koltsov, Brooks Orpik and Colby Armstrong.
As for chemistry concerns, and Armstrong, in particular, was important in that regard, nothing ramps up chemistry like winning.
Besides, how has a team mortgaged its future when it still has Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Jordan Staal, Kris Letang, Ryan Whitney, Marc-Andre Fleury, Ryan Malone and Sergei Gonchar?
"I still feel good about our future," Shero said. "I still feel good about the assets we have. Not many teams ... not any team can sit there with a Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Letang, Whitney and Gonchar. We've got great assets here. I think we'll be a good team for a long period of time."
The key, of course, is Hossa, a gifted sniper who is almost certain to play alongside Crosby. Hossa had 26 goals and 30 assists in 60 games with Atlanta. He scored 43 goals last season and had 45 in 2002-03. His production only figures to increase playing beside the best playmaker in the league. Crosby, too, when he returns from injury, will prosper by playing with a veteran world-class goal-scorer like Hossa.
With Crosby and Hossa making up two-thirds of one line and the highly productive unit of Malkin, Malone and Petr Sykora another, the Penguins will present enormous defensive challenges to opponents.
Shero didn't speak at length about the possible signing of Hossa to a long-term contract. Considering how many younger players must be satisfied financially, it will be difficult to keep Hossa, who is earning $7 million this year and seeking a long-term deal at an annual salary of at least that much.
But that's for the future. It's the present that counts. And the acquisition of Hossa has made the Penguins' present one that is rich with promise.
It's a great day for hockey in Pittsburgh.
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Oh, well, if Bob Smizik disagrees with me, I must be wrong.
We get it -- you're a fanboy. Enjoy Pittsburgh's wild ride to the second round of the playoffs where they'll quickly discover they have neither the defense nor goaltending to make a serious run.
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if smizik poasted that on hockybuzz.com as omgwingsrgr8 then it would be relevant
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
if smizik poasted that on hockybuzz.com as omgwingsrgr8 then it would be relevant
It's equally as relevant as any single post I referenced. It's but one opinion among thousands. The fact he/she posts it as though its a definitive affirmation of his fanboy-blinded world view is laughable.
My point is just because he works for a newspaper and wrote an article doesn't somehow make his opinion more credible then mine or anyone else's. In fact, his opinion acctually proves itself deficient since its in disagreement with my opinion, which also happens to be the 100% correct gospel truth.
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I've always been of the school of thought that an opinion is only as valid as the evidence you have to back it up.
And since no one has any evidence as to the merits of this trade because the events haven't unfolded, every one is simply making a prediction.
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since you poasted that on a message board, smackie, i'll agree
if you wrote that in a newspaper after watching every prediction for 30 years, it would be an epic fail
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Now we have some evidence....
Hossa out a week after injury in Pens Debut (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3270395) (a 5-1 loss to Boston)
Begin the debate.
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All I can say is the title of this thread is really misleading.
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Originally posted by Shemp:
All I can say is the title of this thread is really misleading.
That can certainly be changed.
<img src="http://assets.espn.go.com/media/apphoto/71bf45a4-86ba-4ee7-ab26-c37c3bd78566.jpg" alt=" - " />
Huet outduels Broduer in debut, Capitals blank Devils (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=280229011)
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Originally posted by Shemp:
All I can say is the title of this thread is really misleading.
i've enjoyed the thread, it's just like going to a real caps game and having pens fans take over.
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caps should consider drafting The Hives! (http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/49007-hives-challenge-vancouver-canucks-to-hockey-game)
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by Shemp:
All I can say is the title of this thread is really misleading.
i've enjoyed the thread, it's just like going to a real caps game and having pens fans take over. [/b]
Take over? Please... 30% at the most. Being drunk and loud doesn't equate a take over.
Only fans from Pittsburgh and Buffalo come to near orgasm at the site of a fellow fan outside of their respective cities.
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Originally posted by slappy:
Only fans from Pittsburgh and Buffalo come to near orgasm at the site of a fellow fan outside of their respective cities.
Uh, Detroit? I went to see the Hurricanes a few weekends back and had a 40 year-old gentlemen hug me from behind because I was wearing a Wings jersey. At first, I thought it was because my butt looked fantastic in the jeans I was wearing, but when he asked if I thought the Wings could sustain enough offense by breaking up Zetterberg and Datsyuk onto separate lines, I knew.
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by Shemp:
All I can say is the title of this thread is really misleading.
i've enjoyed the thread, it's just like going to a real caps game and having pens fans take over. [/b]
Take over? Please... 30% at the most. Being drunk and loud doesn't equate a take over.
Only fans from Pittsburgh and Buffalo come to near orgasm at the site of a fellow fan outside of their respective cities. [/b]
30% pens fans, 20% caps fans and half empty
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by Shemp:
All I can say is the title of this thread is really misleading.
i've enjoyed the thread, it's just like going to a real caps game and having pens fans take over. [/b]
Take over? Please... 30% at the most. Being drunk and loud doesn't equate a take over.
Only fans from Pittsburgh and Buffalo come to near orgasm at the site of a fellow fan outside of their respective cities. [/b]
30% pens fans, 20% caps fans and half empty [/b]
Back in the day I can remember Caps fans being outnumbered by most other teams at the old phone booth, it wasn't so bad at the original Capital Centre but once they moved into DC I think they lost quite a bit of their Baltimore area fan base. Canucks especially would show up anytime a Canadian team was in town, and very well behaved too I might add. The Wings sheeple (more recent years Pens bandwagoners) didn't cause much trouble, and the NY fans just obnoxious and loud, but what's new, they're New Yorkers!! Flyers fans are just a bunch of wankers and I had cause to kick the crap out of one after a playoff game against the Sens. I had fun with the Bruins fans because it was always good banter.
What you have to understand is DC is a very transient city so there's going to plenty of 'away' fans that actually live in DC. The Dolphins have a similar problem evidently...if you go to Dolphin Stadium if the Giants or Jets are in town the Dolphin fans are the minority.
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that and dc isnt much of a hockey town
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i've enjoyed the thread, it's just like going to a real caps game and having pens fans take over.
Haha!!!
See you on Sunday.
2007-08 Hart Trophy = Evgeni Malkin.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
30% pens fans, 20% caps fans and half empty
Let's kill some myths for functionally retarded Pen's fans.
1. There is no Santa
2. Caps attendance is continuing to do well (http://ted.aol.com/index.php?ID=1934).
Last two games have been a sellout and close to sellout. And how soon we forget, the rabid Pen's fans were close to losing their team to KC (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2718534) last year. And hey? What was Pittsburgh's attendance like just a few years ago? Oh yeah...that's right! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2004)
3. Photo with boss...Creepy
Photo with boss that you happen to live with... Super Creepy Ghey
No Sidney, that's not a pen in Mario's front pocket.
<img src="http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGS131~2005-Sidney-Crosby-Mario-Lemieux-Draft-Day-Posters.jpg" alt=" - " />
4. Malkin getting the Hart? Bwhhaaa. haaaa. Let me know when he can beat Ovie's stats - Ranks in the NHL (through Monday's games): first in points, first in goals, first in PPGs, tied for first in GWGs, first in shots, 12th in hits, sixth in takeaways
Thanks for playing along.
Can't wait to see all 50 gagillion billion Pen's fans at the next game. Hope they make enough cotton candy for you all.
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Originally posted by slappy:
4. Malkin getting the Hart? Bwhhaaa. haaaa. Let me know when he can beat Ovie's stats - Ranks in the NHL (through Monday's games): first in points, first in goals, first in PPGs, tied for first in GWGs, first in shots, 12th in hits, sixth in takeaways
I know he has no chance with the 3 week injury, but Nick Lidstrom. Best defenseman, leads the league in +/-, leads defensemen in scoring, should win the Norris in a walkaway, and you can't argue he's a product of the system... see how the system has done without him.
That said, AO would be my #2 vote.
Not to sound like a total hockey nerd, but who do you guys like for the Selke? I think Datsyuk and Heatley is the best race in YEARS.
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Penguins fans are the biggest bandwagoners in American sports.
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see below
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
30% pens fans, 20% caps fans and half empty
Let's kill some myths for functionally retarded Pen's fans.
1. There is no Santa
2. Caps attendance is continuing to do well (http://ted.aol.com/index.php?ID=1934).
Last two games have been a sellout and close to sellout. And how soon we forget, the rabid Pen's fans were close to losing their team to KC (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2718534) last year. And hey? What was Pittsburgh's attendance like just a few years ago? Oh yeah...that's right! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2004)
3. Photo with boss...Creepy
Photo with boss that you happen to live with... Super Creepy Ghey
No Sidney, that's not a pen in Mario's front pocket.
<img src="http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGS131~2005-Sidney-Crosby-Mario-Lemieux-Draft-Day-Posters.jpg" alt=" - " />
4. Malkin getting the Hart? Bwhhaaa. haaaa. Let me know when he can beat Ovie's stats - Ranks in the NHL (through Monday's games): first in points, first in goals, first in PPGs, tied for first in GWGs, first in shots, 12th in hits, sixth in takeaways
Thanks for playing along.
Can't wait to see all 50 gagillion billion Pen's fans at the next game. Hope they make enough cotton candy for you all. [/b]
You are kidding right? Either that or all those playoff losses to the Pens over the years have poisoned your soul.
Doesn't this mean that the Caps are...um...not very good?
Conference Standings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/standings/conference/)
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
You are kidding right? Either that or all those playoff losses to the Pens over the years have poisoned your soul.
Doesn't this mean that the Caps are...um...not very good?
Conference Standings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/standings/conference/)
I'll take it sloooooowly with you, I know it was a lot to take in.
There was no kidding in my post, even the part about the man/boy relationship of Mario and Sid.
- If you go back and look at my posts, NOWHERE do I say the Caps are 'very good'. They will be lucky to make the playoffs, but they do have a shot.
-If they do get lucky and meet the Sens in the first round, there is a good chance on them going to the second round to then be eliminated.
-Just looking at the Conference Standings doesn't tell the whole picture. Their record is MUCH better since changing coaches in November.
Selke could be tough to pick this year, I could see Datsuk, Zetterberg, Heatley, or even Iginla getting it.
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Originally posted by slappy:
Selke could be tough to pick this year, I could see Datsuk, Zetterberg, Heatley, or even Iginla getting it.
Yeah, those four have been awesome this year, but I'd list Iginla a distant 4th, personally. I think the Wings organization is pushing Datsyuk (who, by the numbers alone should win this thing) over Zetterberg for consideration , so hopefully their won't be alot of vote splitting between the two. Definitely an interesting race to watch.
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4. Malkin getting the Hart? Bwhhaaa. haaaa. Let me know when he can beat Ovie's stats - Ranks in the NHL (through Monday's games): first in points, first in goals, first in PPGs, tied for first in GWGs, first in shots, 12th in hits, sixth in takeaways
Yeah, Ovie is sooooooo far ahead in points. I don't know how anyone could catch him. Puh-leeze....
A. Ovechkin = 90 points
E. Malkin = 89 points
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Originally posted by slappy:
2. Caps attendance is continuing to do well (http://ted.aol.com/index.php?ID=1934).
Last two games have been a sellout and close to sellout. And how soon we forget, the rabid Pen's fans were close to losing their team to KC (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2718534) last year. And hey? What was Pittsburgh's attendance like just a few years ago? Oh yeah...that's right! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2004)
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how is up to 23rd in the nhl doing well? and if you look at percentage of capacity (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?sort=home_pct&year=2008) the caps are 28th! and that's with one of the best, most exciting players in the league, and in a huge city
the pens issues had to do more with the city being broke and the civic arena sucking than with the amount of fans they have
i wish dc was a better hockey town, and hopefully things are looking up. harder to find tickets to sunday's game than it was for the game back in the fall. that one was pretty sparcely attended
my favorite part was when the manchester united supporter calls out the pens fans for being bandwagoners. hahahahaha
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
how is up to 23rd in the nhl doing well? and if you look at percentage of capacity (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?sort=home_pct&year=2008) the caps are 28th! and that's with one of the best, most exciting players in the league, and in a huge city
the pens issues had to do more with the city being broke and the civic arena sucking than with the amount of fans they have
i wish dc was a better hockey town, and hopefully things are looking up. harder to find tickets to sunday's game than it was for the game back in the fall. that one was pretty sparcely attended
my favorite part was when the manchester united supporter calls out the pens fans for being bandwagoners. hahahahaha
Amazing what Pens fans will believe. :roll:
You're gonna use the percent capacity, the biggest grain of salt in all of the ESPN attendance 'stats' as a rebuttal? You do realize if an arena really was at 120% capacity it would be a fire code violation. Ever notice the Rangers home attendance as been exactly 18,200 for every game this year?
The ESPN attendance stats are complete BS. The only thing to take from them is the teams at the top are doing well, the bottom ... is just that. Everything in the middle is murky at best.
Pitt and Buffalo fans commenting on Caps attendance is a complete joke when you also look at their success to attendance ratio. Hell, I have more respect for Flyer's fans after seeing them continue to fill their arena even when they stunk the last few years. And they don't act like complete douche bags.
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yes, i wish we could all be like philly fans :roll:
do you have a source for your attendance figures that isnt the owners blog?
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
Originally posted by slappy:
[qb] 2. Caps attendance is continuing to do well (http://ted.aol.com/index.php?ID=1934).
my favorite part was when the manchester united supporter calls out the pens fans for being bandwagoners. hahahahaha [/b]
I think you misunderstand what "Bandwagoners" mean?
In the EPL Chelski are the bandwagoners/johnny come lately's. United have had millions of fans from around the world for years regardless of wether they were winning trophies or not.
GEDDIT NOW???
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half the people i know that picked up the epl in the last 10 years support manusa
90% of the people i know that root for the pens are from southwestern pa or have relatives from there. everyone leaves for jobs, what can i say
isnt the knock that 75% of the prawn sandwich brigade live in london anyway
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All it took for Ovechkin to "rise" to the top was for the best player in the league [Sid] to miss a couple months! Well done Ovie!!
Good stuff:
If you think they're hot now, wait 'til they're healthy (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/darren_eliot/03/03/penguins.juggernaut/index.html)
It all adds up to an 11-6-4 record while the game's most dynamic offensive player was convalescing. The point is that Crosby should return later this week, possibly for NBC's Game of the Week on Sunday at Washington. I caught a glimpse of him working out at Mellon Arena on Sunday morning and despite his ankle woes, let me report that Crosby's hands looked just fine. There seemed to be a spring to his stride and an eagerness to be back around the action that wasn't apparent even a week ago. [he actually returned last night & setup the winner]
Then you have recently-acquired Marian Hossa, spraining the MCL in his right knee during his first game with the Pens after his trade from Atlanta. He could likewise return this weekend. Add in stalwart defenseman Ryan Whitney -- out the past few games with a groin strain -- and you suddenly see the Penguins' lineup that was envisioned by GM Ray Shero when he retooled his roster at last week's trade deadline by adding Hossa, checking forward Pascal Dupuis and space-eating defenseman Hal Gill, he of the 6' 7" wingspan. Veteran Gary Roberts might even be available to patrol the wing during the postseason and -- maybe more importantly -- manage the locker room.
So, right now in Pittsburgh there is satisfaction in the season thus far, and rightly so. But that mood pales in comparison to the anticipation of what might yet be. Everyone wants to see what this team looks like fully assembled. Shero smiled broadly when I put that premise to him and he offered a sly, "We'll see."
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
the best player in the league to miss a couple months!
Lidstrom was only out a few weeks. Alternately, I'm not sure Daniel Alfreddson or Roberto Luongo missed anytime this year.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
yes, i wish we could all be like philly fans :roll:
do you have a source for your attendance figures that isnt the owners blog?
I know! Hard to believe, but indeed the Sabres & Pens bandwagon fans are waaaay worse. At least Flyer fans are hockey knowledgeable.
There is no official source for attendance figures except the NHL, and they don't give them out. You can only dig around and find bits and pieces. Hockey's Future board (http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=426840) is a decent site for info. As you'll see some teams giveaway as many as 4000 tickets a game.
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
All it took for Ovechkin to "rise" to the top was for the best player in the league [Sid] to miss a couple months! Well done Ovie!!
Perfect example of yet another clueless Pen fan.
Ovie didn't have to 'rise' to surpass Crosby. Ovechkin was awarded the Calder Trophy with 124 of 129 first place votes for best rookie over Crosby two season ago.
While Crosby is good and was on pace before the injury for
34 goals 80 assists - 114 pts
For some perspective,
Gretzky's stats in his 3rd year
92 goals 120 assists - 212 pts!
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Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
4. Malkin getting the Hart? Bwhhaaa. haaaa. Let me know when he can beat Ovie's stats - Ranks in the NHL (through Monday's games): first in points, first in goals, first in PPGs, tied for first in GWGs, first in shots, 12th in hits, sixth in takeaways
Yeah, Ovie is sooooooo far ahead in points. I don't know how anyone could catch him. Puh-leeze....
A. Ovechkin = 90 points
E. Malkin = 89 points [/b]
The Hart is given to the MVP (hence why I posted all the other stats about Ovie)
The Ross is given for most points, tool.
It'd be fun to take a video quizzing Pen's fans at Sunday's game. Are You Smarter Than A Pen's Fan? "Name three Pen's players other than Crosby."
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Originally posted by slappy:
"Name three Pen's players other than Crosby."
That's easy!
A better question is:
Name three Caps players other than Ovechkin that are WORTH mentioning.
Obviously the Calder is a weak indicator of future talent: Show us the head-to-head record of all games Sid versus Ovie - Individual stats & team win/losses.
Unless of course those NHL stats aren't to be trusted either :roll:
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Originally posted by slappy:
There is no official source for attendance figures except the NHL, and they don't give them out. You can only dig around and find bits and pieces. Hockey's Future board (http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=426840) is a decent site for info. As you'll see some teams giveaway as many as 4000 tickets a game.
Originally posted at hfboard:
Reported Attendance
A. Reported attendance numbers, 2000/01 - 2007/08: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2008 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2008)
B. Reported attendance numbers, 1989/90 - present: http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/NHL-...attendance.htm (http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/NHL-...attendance.htm)
C. In .doc format: http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=1...3&postcount=89 (http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=1...3&postcount=89)
isnt A. the link i used
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by slappy:
"Name three Pen's players other than Crosby."
That's easy!
A better question is:
Name three Caps players other than Ovechkin that are WORTH mentioning.
Obviously the Calder is a weak indicator of future talent: Show us the head-to-head record of all games Sid versus Ovie - Individual stats & team win/losses.
Unless of course those NHL stats aren't to be trusted either :roll: [/b]
Here's a suggestion... instead of watching Crosby's kool aid lips, try watching actual games.
Nicklas Backstrom is leading the league in rookie points.
Mike Green is leading the league in d-men goals.
They acquired some dude named Sergei Fedorov for leadership but he's probably not worth mentioning because he never played for the Penquins.
Calder - Yeah, the 124 of 129 Pro Hockey Writers that voted for Ovie don't understand goals and winning and stuff. :roll:
No, those stats are what we call verifiable and can be trusted. That means people that actually watch games can confirm them. Attendance is given to the league by the owners, which means they might not be so accurate.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Name three Caps players other than Ovechkin that are WORTH mentioning.
Alexsander Semin, Cristobal Huet, Nicklas Backstrom, Sergei Federov...
The Caps aren't great, but they certainly have a handful of great pieces around Ovechkin, especially on offense. Their defense needs an overhaul, Green aside.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
Originally posted by slappy:
There is no official source for attendance figures except the NHL, and they don't give them out. You can only dig around and find bits and pieces. Hockey's Future board (http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=426840) is a decent site for info. As you'll see some teams giveaway as many as 4000 tickets a game.
Originally posted at hfboard:
Reported Attendance
A. Reported attendance numbers, 2000/01 - 2007/08: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2008 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2008)
B. Reported attendance numbers, 1989/90 - present: http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/NHL-...attendance.htm (http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/NHL-...attendance.htm)
C. In .doc format: http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=1...3&postcount=89 (http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=1...3&postcount=89)
isnt A. the link i used [/b]
Yes, so? Again... read my post slooowly I said there is no official source.
Maybe Ted can make the next game against the Pens a Reading Is Fundamental game and hand out elementary books to you guys.
See Mullet.
See Sardines.
See Mullet feed Sardine to other Mullet.
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that's fine, and i understand that, but then why send me to the table you disputed in the first place? i'm happy the caps are getting better attendance numbers, its cool that they are building a nonhomoerotic, nonmulletted team (or something) completely devoid of douchebag fans. should be fun.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
that's fine, and i understand that, but then why send me to the table you disputed in the first place? i'm happy the caps are getting better attendance numbers, its cool that they are building a nonhomoerotic, nonmulletted team (or something) completely devoid of douchebag fans. should be fun.
Because on the website just above the 'Reported Attendance' links that you posted is 'Gate Receipts, Complimentary Tickets, Average Ticket Price '
according to the Globe and Mail.
No team can be completely devoid of douchebag fans. I guess you've never seen the dude that wears a red cape to every game. Its fun to get him mad by calling it a cape, he prefers 'cloak'.
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ah, i clicked on all of those links and the espn one was the only one that was updated for the current year. wish all of those were, some facinating stats
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Because this is a Capitals thread, I'd like to point out that they're #18 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/powerranking).
I'm going to make no comment about who's #1 because this is not their thread.
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Originally posted by slappy:
They acquired some dude named Sergei Fedorov for leadership
Good luck with that...
was he also buckethead in the new GnR?
<img src="http://www.rushockey.com/images/archive/misc/fedorov-novogorsk.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by slappy:
They acquired some dude named Sergei Fedorov for leadership
Good luck with that...
<img src="http://www.rushockey.com/images/archive/misc/fedorov-novogorsk.jpg" alt=" - " /> [/b]
Is he one of the blokes who shagged Anna Kournakova???
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by slappy:
They acquired some dude named Sergei Fedorov for leadership
Good luck with that...
:D
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when are the caps gonna retire peter bondra's number? that'll be a game i want to go to.
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What great days those were in Detroit when #91 was dating Kournikova, and every time he'd score and she was in the building they'd put her up on the jumbotron and the place would start chanting "Annn-naaaa! Annn-naaaa!" Nothing defined Detroit hockey quite some prime T&A in the JLA.
Incidentally, Wings fans were pushing hard to trade for Mike Comrie at the trade deadline (before his contract got extended). Not so much for his playing ability but because he's dating Hilary Duff and that was the hottest girlfriend available at the deadline. Sigh.
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thats awesome
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
Is he one of the blokes who shagged Anna Kournakova??? [/b]
yes, but didnt they all :D [/QB]
I think the official list of Kournikova's bedmates consists only of Federov and Enrique Iglesias, with Pavel Bure highly rumoured.
Incidentally, there is no consensus as to whether or not she's ever been married. Federov claims they were married and divorced, but she says they weren't. Two rumoured marriages to Iglesias, and another with Bure. She refuses to confirm/deny any of them, which is really odd.
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
Is he one of the blokes who shagged Anna Kournakova???
Bloke and Anna
<img src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_dn99UwUp0vw/R8XsrbQfzEI/AAAAAAAABcs/RY2dGNeSlX0/s400/Anna+Kournikova+Sergei+Fedorov+2.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
I think the official list of Kournikova's bedmates consists only of Federov and Enrique Iglesias, with Pavel Bure highly rumoured.
Ahem. At, uh, this time, Senator, I can neither confirm, nor deny, whether or not, my name should be added to that list. However, I am told, by counsel, that I can confirm, that she was, uh, much stronger than I had anticipated. Thank you.
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The Hart is given to the MVP (hence why I posted all the other stats about Ovie)
The Ross is given for most points, tool.
No s#*t, but when was the last time the Hart was given to someone who didn't participate in the postseason? Better hope that's not a deciding factor, fool...
I was just remarking on how you think it is absurd that anyone else other Ovechkin has a chance to win the MVP.
And if you think the only reason the Pens have a fanbase is because of Crosby then you are a blithering idiot. The organization has a tradition that nearly ranks up there with the Original Six. (Have you heard of that term Mr. Super Hockey fan?!) I can probably name you three Pens from each season's roster going back to the mid-80's.
I love this trash talking. Man, this Sunday is gonna be fun....
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Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
No s#*t, but when was the last time the Hart was given to someone who didn't participate in the postseason? Better hope that's not a deciding factor, fool...
I was just remarking on how you think it is absurd that anyone else other Ovechkin has a chance to win the MVP.
And if you think the only reason the Pens have a fanbase is because of Crosby then you are a blithering idiot. The organization has a tradition that nearly ranks up there with the Original Six. (Have you heard of that term Mr. Super Hockey fan?!) I can probably name you three Pens from each season's roster going back to the mid-80's.
I love this trash talking. Man, this Sunday is gonna be fun....
-1988 to Mario Lemuiex , Pens finished last in the Patrick- You should know that 'Mr. I-know-the-roster-going-back-to-the-mid-8O's Super Hockey Fan' tool.
-I never said only Ovie has a chance. I'm not a blind homer like Pen's fans. Any number of western conference teams have a great shot. Iginla, Datsyuk, Alfie, Nabokov
-It'll be a good tough game, the only thing I'm guaranteeing is seeing some douchebag, bandwagon Pens fans.
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Gosh. Its fun to rile you up, slappy.
I'm aware of Mario's MVPs. But that was 20 years ago and he was greatest hockey player of all time.
Sorry I didn't have time to look up the exact year on the internet.
And Pens fans have been filling DC arenas for quite some time. I do remember a particular controversy in the 90s when the Caps ownership were blocking playoff ticket sales coming out of Pittsburgh. Can a bandwagon last for over 10 years?
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Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
Gosh. Its fun to rile you up, slappy.
I'm aware of Mario's MVPs. But that was 20 years ago and he was greatest hockey player of all time.
Sorry I didn't have time to look up the exact year on the internet.
I'm far from riled. You guys are so clueless its funny.
I'd take Grez, Gordie, and Richard before Mario on the greatest.
FYI... there's a thing called Google (http://www.google.com) try it sometime its really fast for looking up things you don't know... i mean forgot. ;)
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Originally posted by slappy:
I'd take Grez, Gordie, and Richard before Mario on the greatest.
Those are the definites. Add Yzerman, Roy and Orr to that list as well.
The next tier has Mario, Francis, Esposito, maybe Coffey, Messier and Lidstrom too.
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Those are the definites. Add Yzerman, Roy and Orr to that list as well.
The next tier has Mario, Francis, Esposito, maybe Coffey, Messier and Lidstrom too.
You're probably trying not to be too bias, but Lidstrom could go up to the top tier. Probably the greatest European to play in the NHL.
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BTW, what happened to the kid from Potomac, Brian whatsisface who played for the Caps...were is he now?
I'm just glad there's no "Jagr" on anyones best list...he's top of the 'most overrated' list, imho of course.
If you're including heart and soul and not just pure skill then you have to include Dale Hunter and Rod Langway to any 'greatest' list.
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
I'm just glad there's no "Jagr" on anyones best list...he's top of the 'most overrated' list, imho of course.
I'd have him in my third tier. He lacks leadership no doubt, but on sheer numbers alone, it's going to be hard to deny at the end of his career he was an elite++ player (albeit in a scoring mad time frame).
Everyone does offensive players in their lists, but there are alot of goalies and d-men ones should consider. Sawchuk, Roy, Hasek, and Tretiak (if we're counting non-NHL guys too) all can make a case for being in the top two tiers, as probably could Orr, Lidstrom, Harvey, Bourque, Coffey, and maybe even Niedermayer or Chelios.
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In setting my Sports Agenda for the weekend on the DVR, I realized this was the NBC game of the week. One of you yappers should do something and get yourself on TV.
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
BTW, what happened to the kid from Potomac, Brian whatsisface who played for the Caps...were is he now?
Jeff Halpern? He just got traded from Dallas to Tampa Bay. Scored a goal in his 1st game with the Lightning.
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The zebras win the game for the Bruins today.
Although this bonehead didn't help...
<img src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:9NRyvNjUWBwHsM:http://lh3.google.com/_tpCa_ZXszBs/RwkekqKm5LI/AAAAAAAAADw/lkchucFAOT8/s800/DSC02415.JPG" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by Shemp:
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
BTW, what happened to the kid from Potomac, Brian whatsisface who played for the Caps...were is he now?
Jeff Halpern? He just got traded from Dallas to Tampa Bay. Scored a goal in his 1st game with the Lightning. [/b]
There's also Stephen Werner (http://www.stingrayshockey.com/team/players/index.html?player_id=24) from Chevy Chase, playing down on the farm with the Stingrays although it looks like he's out with an injury
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I hope you enjoyed the game Slappy!
Some thoughts:
*Pens vs. Caps is a hockey showcase. No trapping here: up & down the ice. Lots of rough stuff - just superb hockey.
*Hi-def is made for hockey.
*Looked like a LOT of Pens fans there. TV crew said a split crowd.
*Huet was great in the third. Some amazing saves. A nice pickup.
*Sid - 2 goals...Alex - ZERO
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
I hope you enjoyed the game Slappy!
Some thoughts:
*Pens vs. Caps is a hockey showcase. No trapping here: up & down the ice. Lots of rough stuff - just superb hockey.
*Hi-def is made for hockey.
*Looked like a LOT of Pens fans there. TV crew said a split crowd.
*Huet was great in the third. Some amazing saves. A nice pickup.
*Sid - 2 goals...Alex - ZERO
It was good and close.
The Caps outplayed the Pens.
Rookie mistake lost it for us.
Actually, Sid had 1 goal, the second was just credited to him.
Sid-2 points (kinda) Ovie-2 points (no kinda about it)
Nowhere near 'split' 75% Caps fans 25% Pens fans
They were only loud at the beginning and the end of the game.
Fluery was impressive in goal facing 38 shots.
I did enjoy laughing at the retarded Pen's fans lack of understanding the Caps 'whoop, whoop'. They started doing it to Ovechkin with no realization that Caps fans have been doing it to former Caps players for 20 years, not as real diss.
On to the Calgary game and Iginla.
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"The win also gave Crosby another notch in a one-sided head-to-head rivalry with Ovechkin. The Penguins are 10-1 against the Capitals when both are playing."
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Originally posted by slappy:
The Caps outplayed the Pens in the second period. Otherwise the Pens carried the play
Sid-2 points, Ovie-2 points, Malkin-3 pts
Pens fans...were only loud at the beginning and the end of the game and when you could clearly hear a Let's Go Pens chant on tv.
I made a few editorial corrections above...
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wow, must be really rough losing to the gay, mulletted pens featuring the inferior crosby and malkin. especially with their nonexistent, douchebag, bandwagon fans. just rough, eh?
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
wow, must be really rough losing to the gay, mulletted pens featuring the inferior crosby and malkin. especially with their nonexistent, douchebag, bandwagon fans. just rough, eh?
Not really.
Since I never said Crosby and Malkin are inferior or their fans are nonexistent.
They are douchebag, bandwagon fans with way too much self-importance.
But...
- I don't have to live as one.
- I don't live around them in that shit-hole that is Pittsburgh
So in the grand scheme of things, its not rough at all.
Let's Go Caps!
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
wow, must be really rough losing to the gay, mulletted pens featuring the inferior crosby and malkin. especially with their nonexistent, douchebag, bandwagon fans. just rough, eh?
Not really.
Since I never said Crosby and Malkin are inferior or their fans are nonexistent.
They are douchebag, bandwagon fans with way too much self-importance.
But...
- I don't have to live as one.
- I don't live around them in that shit-hole that is Pittsburgh
So in the grand scheme of things, its not rough at all.
Let's Go Caps! [/b]
Do you even get the irony of your constant "bandwagon" banter?
There's a reason why the Caps don't have any bandwagon fans...THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN GOOD ENOUGH. EVER.
Crosby left a copy of this for Alex in the locker room:
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
The Caps outplayed the Pens in the second period. Otherwise the Pens carried the play
I made a few editorial corrections above...
Nice embellishment, sure hate to ruin it with the facts. 4 shots on goal in the first period to the Caps 11 shots on goal doesn't sound like the Pens carried the play.
:roll:
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that own goal sucked... its good to know that we beer leaguers arent the only ones who do that...
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
wow, must be really rough losing to the gay, mulletted pens featuring the inferior crosby and malkin. especially with their nonexistent, douchebag, bandwagon fans. just rough, eh?
Not really.
Since I never said Crosby and Malkin are inferior or their fans are nonexistent.
They are douchebag, bandwagon fans with way too much self-importance.
But...
- I don't have to live as one.
- I don't live around them in that shit-hole that is Pittsburgh
So in the grand scheme of things, its not rough at all.
Let's Go Caps! [/b]
Do you even get the irony of your constant "bandwagon" banter?
There's a reason why the Caps don't have any bandwagon fans...THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN GOOD ENOUGH. EVER. [/b]
That's not irony.
Irony would be if the Caps DID have bandwagon fans or I wanted them.
Didn't they teach you about the proper use of literary devices in the shit-hole that is Pittsburgh? Nevermind.
I'd rather have a slow build of hardcore, knowledgeable fans.
Let's Go Caps!
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Originally posted by slappy:
I'd rather have a slow build of hardcore, knowledgeable fans.
A slow build that corresponds to the team's success I presume?
If so, then you picked an excellent adjective:
Main Entry: slow
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: unhurried
Synonyms: apathetic, creeping, dawdling, imperceptible, lackadaisical, laggard, lagging, lazy, leisurely, lethargic, listless, loitering, phlegmatic, plodding, ponderous, slothful, slow-moving, sluggish, snaillike, stagnant, supine, tardy, torpid, tortoiselike
I shall now use it in a sentence for you:
The Caps phlegmatic play today struck a serious blow to their chances of making the NHL playoffs.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by slappy:
[qb]Crosby left a copy of this for Alex in the locker room:
<img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YS7HEJ3SL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg" alt=" - " /> [/b]
That's cool. I heard this was left for Sid. So he doesn't have to be out with one of those really 'high ankle sprains' again.
<img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/514V4N3X9FL._AA240_.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by slappy:
I'd rather have a slow build of hardcore, knowledgeable fans.
A slow build that corresponds to the team's success I presume?
[/b]
Rome wasn't built in a day. :cool:
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Apropos of nothing; but since we are being crafty & creative...
My favorite sporting event sign:
<img src="http://deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/01/fivehole.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Apropos of nothing; but since we are being crafty & creative...
My favorite sporting event sign:
<img src="http://deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/01/fivehole.jpg" alt=" - " />
So Pittsburgh is a shithole full of skanky slappers...but we all knew that.
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dont you live in florida
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
So Pittsburgh is a shithole full of skanky slappers...but we all knew that.
You'd "hit" it.
For the record...I moved AWAY from Washington back to Pittsburgh for a major quality of life improvement.
Yinz got nothing on the 'Burgh except a few nice monuments & the 9:30... :D
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and jobs. and weather
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southside of pittsburgh > U street or 18th street or H street..
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cant argue with that. that's where i lived before i moved here
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thats where i lived for 3 years in college...one place off of 27th street and the other right on 10th street. good times..
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i lived on a street so narrow my friends wouldnt come pick me up
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i lived on a street so narrow my friends wouldnt come pick me up
the Slopes?!?!
throw in the weather too definitely.
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yeah, i'd say just at the bottom of the slopes. off of josephine st (which i always saw as the dividing line) between 26th and 27th st
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Originally posted by manimtired:
southside of pittsburgh > U street or 18th street or H street..
Congrats.
The entire southside of Pittsburgh is greater than 3 streets individually in DC.
Thread title
For All You Caps fans
I know you guys are a little slow, but you can make your own thread to discuss ad nauseum the shit hole that is Pittsburgh and all your fabulous college days.
Now I wonder who will be in goal against the Flames on Wednesday. I'm thinking he might go with Huet again.
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carson st is one street ;)
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
carson st is one street ;) [/QUOTE
indeed.
and slappy..STFU and GTFO. im sorry you never attended college.
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Originally posted by manimtired:
and slappy..STFU and GTFO. im sorry you never attended college.
Classic!!! Again... the thread name
For All You Caps Fans
I can't help it if Pittsburgh is a shit hole.
But the game is in the past. Move on, tool.
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hahaha, heaven forbid we get in the way off all of this capstalk
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slappy...i take that back. you clearly cant be over 16.
ummm..go caps!!!..happy?
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Heaven forbid you start you own thread.
I'll hook you guys up.
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HockeyBuzz, ironically, just had a contest/vote based around the AOvsSid debate. 66% said they'd rather build their team around AO. Good debate on both sides:
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=13984 (http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=13984)
Personally, while Ovechkin is the better pure goal scorer (and possibly the best in the league at this point in that capacity), AO doesn't make other people better, whereas Sid seems much more cerebral and his assist numbers are generally higher. I'd take Crosby personally.
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i can see arguments both ways, but youd have to think ao isnt going to hit like he does now in 5 years. i fear a bit for his health long term
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
HockeyBuzz, ironically, just had a contest/vote based around the AOvsSid debate. 66% said they'd rather build their team around AO. Good debate on both sides:
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=13984 (http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=13984)
Personally, while Ovechkin is the better pure goal scorer (and possibly the best in the league at this point in that capacity), AO doesn't make other people better, whereas Sid seems much more cerebral and his assist numbers are generally higher. I'd take Crosby personally.
I'm too bias. Although it seems to have decreased, I can't stand it when Crosby whines to refs. If I owned a team I'd much rather watch Ovie than Crosby.
What's kinda sad is the way Iginla is overlooked in the US. If he was on the Rangers he would be getting a lot more press that would help with diversity in the NHL.
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
HockeyBuzz, ironically, just had a contest/vote based around the AOvsSid debate. 66% said they'd rather build their team around AO. Good debate on both sides:
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=13984 (http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=13984)
Personally, while Ovechkin is the better pure goal scorer (and possibly the best in the league at this point in that capacity), AO doesn't make other people better, whereas Sid seems much more cerebral and his assist numbers are generally higher. I'd take Crosby personally.
"The Penguins are 10-1 against the Capitals when both are playing."
That's pretty emphatic.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
"The Penguins are 10-1 against the Capitals when both are playing."
That's pretty emphatic.
You know, I agree with on who I'd take of the two, but you look like an idiot when you cite a statistic like that as proof one guy is better then another. The significantly better TEAM Sid the Kid plays on probably has something to do with his TEAM having a better record then AO's TEAM.
The Red Wings have won the last 5 games vs. the Thrashers -- I guess Aaron Downey must be a better player then Ilya Kovalchuk!
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
"The Penguins are 10-1 against the Capitals when both are playing."
That's pretty emphatic.
The significantly better TEAM Sid the Kid plays on probably has something to do with his TEAM having a better record then AO's TEAM.
[/b]
You CAN NOT discount that head-to-head result. It's probably more reliable to see how they compare on the ice together than what they do against other changing variables. It's what any scientist would do. Not only have the Pens won more - but Sid has been better. (your comparison above is daft. We are talking about the 2 best players specifically. Using your argument I'd have to agree that Ruutu is also better than Ovechkin :roll: )
They were both on fairly comparable teams when Sid & Alex entered the league. Pitt has improved. Wash - not so much. Why? One big reason below:
Watch the end of this vid & see AO's reaction to the own goal. Great leadership ability.
http://broadband.tsn.ca/tsn/?vid=36869 (http://broadband.tsn.ca/tsn/?vid=36869)
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I pray you're just biased beyond all reasonableness and are not actually this stupid.
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
I pray you're just biased beyond all reasonableness and are not actually this stupid.
You havent changed a bit since you ruled the HFS message boards:
<img src="http://www.totaljackass.com/images/2000_jackass.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
I pray you're just biased beyond all reasonableness and are not actually this stupid.
C'mon it's a Pens fan...it's combination of both.
You can't have a logical discussion with them.
They're very similar to these ass clowns.
<img src="http://www.cyberscribe.demon.co.uk/scribe/images/fags0001.jpg" alt=" - " />
It probably has something to do with an inferiority complex since Pittsburgh is a shit hole. (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=016956)
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Originally posted by slappy:
They're very similar to these ass clowns.
<img src="http://www.cyberscribe.demon.co.uk/scribe/images/fags0001.jpg" alt=" - " />
That's not a fair comparison -- God DOES hate fags. Read Romans 9:13 and like 20 other verses.
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
I pray you're just biased beyond all reasonableness and are not actually this stupid.
C'mon it's a Pens fan...it's combination of both.
You can't have a logical discussion with them.
They're very similar to these ass clowns.
<img src="http://www.cyberscribe.demon.co.uk/scribe/images/fags0001.jpg" alt=" - " />
It probably has something to do with an inferiority complex since Pittsburgh is a shit hole. (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=016956) [/b]
Slappy: You are the most hate filled gay guy I have ever encountered
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Slappy: You are the most hate filled gay guy I have ever encountered
<img src="http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p110/adv2k1/CartmanLAME.jpg" alt=" - " />
Caps discussion. Take your toys and play somewhere else.
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Originally posted by slappy:
Caps discussion. Take your toys and play somewhere else.
http://boards.washingtoncaps.com/ (http://boards.washingtoncaps.com/)
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Originally posted by slappy:
Caps discussion. Take your toys and play somewhere else.
Here's some Caps discussion for you. Mockery from the Post-Gazette:
WASHINGTON -- Nicklas Backstrom is, and always will be, a playmaker.
He's contending for the scoring lead among NHL rookies because he sets up goals, not because he scores them.
Give him the puck in the front of the net, though, and Backstrom can bury it.
:D
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Stay classy, Post-Gazette.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by slappy:
Caps discussion. Take your toys and play somewhere else.
http://boards.washingtoncaps.com/ (http://boards.washingtoncaps.com/) [/b]
Nice! I didn't know it existed. :roll:
My Great Grandpappy Slappy used to say.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Here's one for you.
Create your own blog (https://www.blogger.com/start)
You have a spot to put all the worthless things we should know!
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slappy, could you please remind us when was the last time the Caps won the Stanley Cup? Penguins last did in in '92, i believe. luckily, i'm sure it hasn't been that long for the Capitals, right?
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i have fond memories of watching the red wings hoist the stanley cup in dc, where there were probably more red wings fans in attendance than caps fans... and talk about tacky a good number of them left, not sticking around to watch the cup be presented...
i pretty much gave up watching live hockey after moving to dc, because the caps have this amazing ability to suck the talent out of any team they play and was never impressed with their fans either.
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geez slappy, cry more
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
slappy, could you please remind us when was the last time the Caps won the Stanley Cup? Penguins last did in in '92, i believe. luckily, i'm sure it hasn't been that long for the Capitals, right?
Let's get some things straight, I'm not goofing around because I think the Caps are greatest teams. I'm not even saying the Caps fans are the greatest.
I'm saying Pen's fans are generally a bunch of idiots. They can't be objective when it comes to the NHL. If they didn't get Mario back in the day there wouldn't be a Pittsburgh Penguins. They got lucky by getting Crosby to save the team again. (It could be said Ovechkin could be the Caps savior.)
Their fans have become overly cocky when this time last year the city almost lost the team. Remember just a few years ago when the Pen's sucked, they were in last place in attendance.
A team from the West will take the cup again this year anyway.
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Originally posted by kosmo:
and talk about tacky a good number of them left, not sticking around to watch the cup be presented...
Yeah, it's so tacky not to watch the opposing team receive the cup. :roll:
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Originally posted by slappy:
If they didn't get Mario back in the day there wouldn't be a Pittsburgh Penguins
that was 24 years ago
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by kosmo:
and talk about tacky a good number of them left, not sticking around to watch the cup be presented...
Yeah, it's so tacky not to watch the opposing team receive the cup. :roll: [/b]
real hockey fans would have stuck around to watch the rewarding of one of the most coveted trophys regardless of who was being awarded it... it's not like a event that happens everyday...
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reason #1,098 why Crosby is better than Ovechkin.
Sid is like James Bond.
Alex is...
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. <img src="http://www.nhldigest.com/wp-admin/images/Ovechkin%20Lookalike.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
Originally posted by slappy:
If they didn't get Mario back in the day there wouldn't be a Pittsburgh Penguins
that was 24 years ago [/b]
Yeah and the Pens would have continued to suck for another 3 to 4 years before they were moved to Florida, Dallas, or California.
Remember the Hartford Whalers?
Hey, I'm grateful we got Ovie and are building a team that will soon be a contender.
Ovechkin named NHL first star of week (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=356440)
Once you start learning the NHL doesn't revolve around the Pens the more respect you'll earn as fans.
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Originally posted by slappy:
Once you start learning the NHL doesn't revolve around the Pens the more respect you'll earn as fans.
Again...the irony.
You think it is ok to walk out of the Stanley Cup presentation
You can't respect greats like Mario & Sid
You start contributing by disparaging fans of other teams.
It is you who needs the lesson grasshopper.
<img src="http://roaringshark.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/slappy.jpg" alt=" - " />
Starring your 2008 Washington Capitals!!
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Originally posted by slappy:
Once you start learning the NHL doesn't revolve around the Pens the more respect you'll earn as fans.
but for pens fans, the game does revolve around the pens. good for them.
once you start sticking around to see the Cup being awarded to the league's champion - your team or not - the more respect you'll earn as a real NHL fan. only bandwagoners and cry-babies bail when their team loses the finals. a true hockey fan can appreciate the special moment that is the hoisting of the Cup, no matter who is underneath it.
sorry slappy, but it's getting harder and harder to take you seriously.
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i just dont understand the relevance of a hypothetical situation a quater century ago. youre whole banter relies on lots of 'if'
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i just dont understand the relevance of a hypothetical situation a quater century ago. youre whole banter relies on lots of 'if'
It's an acute case of inferiority complexia
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
reason #1,098 why Crosby is better than Ovechkin.
<img src="http://www.nhldigest.com/wp-admin/images/Ovechkin%20Lookalike.jpg" alt=" - " />
That's funny!
Tip: If you're attempting to dis Ovie to prove Crosby superiority. Don't use a picture of Ovie next to the Calder trophy that Crosby LOST.
Tip 2: It's hockey, not America's Top Model. I'll take Chelios and Brind'Amour on my team anyday. You seem to like Malkin even though he looks like Frankenberry.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i just dont understand the relevance of a hypothetical situation a quater century ago. youre whole banter relies on lots of 'if'
It's an acute case of inferiority complexia [/b]
Hey, if the shoe fits. I'm not continuing this thread on my own.
Funny you guys seem to forget about this time last year!
Pens' Pittsburgh Future Still Unsure (http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/allegheny/11202987/detail.html)
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Originally posted by kosmo:
i have fond memories of watching the red wings hoist the stanley cup in dc, where there were probably more red wings fans in attendance than caps fans... and talk about tacky a good number of them left, not sticking around to watch the cup be presented...
Were you actually at game 4 or did you mean on TV? I was at game 3 and had tickets for game 6 (which, of course, never happened).
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i just dont understand the relevance of a hypothetical situation a quater century ago. youre whole banter relies on lots of 'if'
It's an acute case of inferiority complexia [/b]
Hey, if the shoe fits. I'm not continuing this thread on my own.
Funny you guys seem to forget about this time last year!
Pens' Pittsburgh Future Still Unsure (http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/allegheny/11202987/detail.html) [/b]
which...didnt happen. another if i see
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Originally posted by slappy:
Funny you guys seem to forget about this time last year!
Pens' Pittsburgh Future Still Unsure (http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/allegheny/11202987/detail.html)
What a crock that was - pure leverage to get a new arena. Do you really believe the Pens were ever going to KC?
Next you'll be telling me that the Steelers are moving to Columbia MD & they'll be playing in Merriweather. :D
You seem awfully obsessed with the past today Slappy. Nothing good to look forward to? Alex is already gearing up:
<img src="http://www.fanatique.ca/images/golf/ovech_golf.jpg" alt=" - " />
Ovechkin is a better golfer than Crosby. There. I said it. Happy now?
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by kosmo:
i have fond memories of watching the red wings hoist the stanley cup in dc, where there were probably more red wings fans in attendance than caps fans... and talk about tacky a good number of them left, not sticking around to watch the cup be presented...
Were you actually at game 4 or did you mean on TV? I was at game 3 and had tickets for game 6 (which, of course, never happened). [/b]
i was at verizon center for game 4, there were absolutely more red wings fans than caps fans. it was pretty neat to see the stanley cup awarded in person, and then they rolled out the dude in the wheelchair and he held the cup and it was kinda touching. konstantinov? kozlov? who knows?
i'll sell you that memory/story, kramer-peterman style, julian. how much you willing to give me for it?
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The Penguins problems with surviving financially in Pittsburgh aren't centered around fan support but the fact that even when their arena sells out, because of its diminutive size, they're barely financially viable. If they'd get a larger venue and keep the current level of fan support (which they will with the offensively exciting team they have), they'd become a top 5-8 financial market easily... unless their lease was crazy or something.
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Originally posted by BookerT:
i'll sell you that memory/story, kramer-peterman style, julian. how much you willing to give me for it?
No, we're good, man. I still have it on VHS and can relive the memories of watching it on my Detroit REd Wings: A Celebration Of Champions DVD boxset.
I've never gotten to see the Cup presented, but I have attended at least one game in the Cup finals for each of the Wings 4 modern cup finals appearances, including Game 3 vs. Carolina which was that triple OT that Larionov finally won in the middle of the night.
And the guys name was Vladimir Konstantinov. He was a beast, and I remember the city being crushed when he got in that limo wreck after winning the Cup the first time. :(
When Lindstrom retires and they retire his number, they need to officially raise the #16 to the rafters as well.
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the salary cap saved the pens the second time more than crosby did. sure didnt hurt to get him
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I'm only showing this because you said if: <img src="http://hockey.ballparks.com/NHL/PittsburghPenguins/new.jpg" alt=" - " />
It's a done deal. Prep construction has begun.
There's a waiting list for tickets in the new building.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
I'm only showing this because you said if:
You're right, I should've used "when." I knew they had a plan in place.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by slappy:
Once you start learning the NHL doesn't revolve around the Pens the more respect you'll earn as fans.
but for pens fans, the game does revolve around the pens. good for them.
once you start sticking around to see the Cup being awarded to the league's champion - your team or not - the more respect you'll earn as a real NHL fan. only bandwagoners and cry-babies bail when their team loses the finals. a true hockey fan can appreciate the special moment that is the hoisting of the Cup, no matter who is underneath it.[/b]
That's fine to be a fan. But blind homer-ism is idiotic. Don't get yer panties in a bunch you get called out on it, esp. on a board in an opposing city.
Sorry, I don't make Pen's/Wing's real fan credentials. I'm not watching the cup on home ice or touching the cup until the Caps have won it. I don't care if my ashes have to be dumped in it.
I also believe Lil'Jon has ruined the Thrashers karma for winning a cup anytime soon.
<img src="http://www.justwide.com/Images/posts/lil_john.jpg" alt=" - " />
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yup was at game four... it Konstantinov, who prior to the limo accident he was involved in was the real heart and soul of the Red Wings... his lose really hurt that team
this picture would have been taken shortly after Wings won that game, lots of empty seats already.
http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx?mid=380955&epmid=2&partner=Google (http://www.viewimages.com/Search.aspx?mid=380955&epmid=2&partner=Google)
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Originally posted by slappy:
I'm not watching the cup on home ice or touching the cup until the Caps have won it.
Consider me the ghost of slappy yet to come:
"I said I ain't watching no cup on home ice or touching the stinkin' cup until the Caps have won it sonny."
- slappy
<img src="http://www.elderweb.com/sites/elderweb/files/albums/history/8b21003r.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by slappy:
Here's one for you.
Create your own blog (https://www.blogger.com/start)
You have a spot to put all the worthless things we should know!
http://vansmack.spaces.live.com/ (http://vansmack.spaces.live.com/)
But at least you were smart enough to recognize that the West will win the Cup again this year.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i just dont understand the relevance of a hypothetical situation a quater century ago. youre whole banter relies on lots of 'if'
It's an acute case of inferiority complexia [/b]
Hey, if the shoe fits. I'm not continuing this thread on my own.
Funny you guys seem to forget about this time last year!
Pens' Pittsburgh Future Still Unsure (http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/allegheny/11202987/detail.html) [/b]
which...didnt happen. another if i see [/b]
That's not an 'if' that was an 'almost'. I'm not obsessed with the past, I remember it. If god-forbid I did come from the shit hole that is Pittsburgh, I wouldn't be romping around acting like they're the greatest team ever with realization of the past (recent and distant). I'd have a little humility. I'm chalking that up to the inferiority complex.
The golf pic is cute. But remember, the Pens didn't make it out of April last year either. Sid could be out there too a week later. Oh, that's right ... that's the past. I'll take the lower draft pick rather than one and done.
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one day i'll have zogsisnotaleftback.com (http://heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com/)
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by slappy:
I'm not watching the cup on home ice or touching the cup until the Caps have won it.
Consider me the ghost of slappy yet to come:
"I said I ain't watching no cup on home ice or touching the stinkin' cup until the Caps have won it sonny."
- slappy
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Lame. I already exaggerated it by saying pouring my ashes in the cup. And who said I was white? I expect better.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by slappy:
Here's one for you.
Create your own blog (https://www.blogger.com/start)
You have a spot to put all the worthless things we should know!
http://vansmack.spaces.live.com/ (http://vansmack.spaces.live.com/)
But at least you were smart enough to recognize that the West will win the Cup again this year. [/b]
That was being too lazy to actually look, not dumb.
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Originally posted by slappy:
That was being too lazy to actually look, not dumb.
Hey, I never said you were dumb.
You are quite the mind reader though. :)
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Originally posted by vansmack:
But at least you were smart enough to recognize that the West will win the Cup again this year.
How good are the Western Conference playoffs going to be this year? Here's how I see the seedings, come playoff time:
1. Detroit
2. San Jose
3. Calgary
4. Dallas
5. Anaheim
6. Colorado
7. Minnesota
8. Vancouver
Admittedly, SJ/Ana/Dal could split a few different ways as far as who wins the division, but just imagine it. Detroit's offense vs. Luongo. Calgary and Kipper vs. a resurgent Colorado team. Dallas and Anaheim in a series worthy of being the West finals. And heck, Gaborik might be able to help the Wild steal a game vs. San Jose. It'd be an incredible first round.
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by vansmack:
But at least you were smart enough to recognize that the West will win the Cup again this year.
How good are the Western Conference playoffs going to be this year? Here's how I see the seedings, come playoff time:
1. Detroit
2. San Jose
3. Calgary
4. Dallas
5. Anaheim
6. Colorado
7. Minnesota
8. Vancouver
Admittedly, SJ/Ana/Dal could split a few different ways as far as who wins the division, but just imagine it. Detroit's offense vs. Luongo. Calgary and Kipper vs. a resurgent Colorado team. Dallas and Anaheim in a series worthy of being the West finals. And heck, Gaborik might be able to help the Wild steal a game vs. San Jose. It'd be an incredible first round. [/b]
I don't see many easy 'outs' in either conference.
Current East:
Devils
Canadiens
Hurricanes
Pens
Sens
Rangers
Bruins
Flyers
I can't remember a year when the 6-8 have been as good. Best stategy in the East?: drop to #6.
It should be a great playoff in both.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Best stategy in the East?: drop to #6.
I've seen Carolina live twice this year. They're out in 5 games, tops, against any other playoff team. If the Caps could get the division, I'd give them a little better chance, but only because Huet or Ovechkin can take over the occasional game.
Canadians/Bruins would be an embarrassment too. Pens/Sens would be a dream 4/5 series.
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Best stategy in the East?: drop to #6.
I've seen Carolina live twice this year. They're out in 5 games, tops, against any other playoff team. If the Caps could get the division, I'd give them a little better chance, but only because Huet or Ovechkin can take over the occasional game.
Canadians/Bruins would be an embarrassment too. Pens/Sens would be a dream 4/5 series. [/b]
I think you are discounting the Bruins. They are far from consistent & you probably have the 10 goal game front & center - but they are capable of playing very tough when inspired. Have given the Pens big trouble this year.
I don't want to see the Sens again. I don't think I have ever seen a team throw the switch like them last year: Struggling in & then steam rolling to the finals. Until they got rolled. (which yes - does suggest that the West is pretty good.)
My dream series: Pens vs Caps. Like I said very early: it's showcase hockey: up & down the ice - olympic-esque. If only the Caps would do their part...
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
I think you are discounting the Bruins. They are far from consistent & you probably have the 10 goal game front & center - but they are capable of playing very tough when inspired.
It's a little bit of being down on Boston, and alot of thinking Montreal looks really, really good.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
My dream series: Pens vs Caps. Like I said very early: it's showcase hockey: up & down the ice - olympic-esque. If only the Caps would do their part...
i had a friend that was a huge caps fan and he was convinced that the pens purposefully tried to play the caps in the first round of the playoffs, and would win or lose where appropriate to match up against the caps.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
My dream series: Pens vs Caps. Like I said very early: it's showcase hockey: up & down the ice - olympic-esque. If only the Caps would do their part...
i had a friend that was a huge caps fan and he was convinced that the pens purposefully tried to play the caps in the first round of the playoffs, and would win or lose where appropriate to match up against the caps. [/b]
I think that may have had some truth in a specific year - but it's probably more of a jab considering how the Pens have tormented the Caps with not only series victories but epic comebacks.
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Best stategy in the East?: drop to #6.
I've seen Carolina live twice this year. They're out in 5 games, tops, against any other playoff team. If the Caps could get the division, I'd give them a little better chance, but only because Huet or Ovechkin can take over the occasional game.
Canadians/Bruins would be an embarrassment too. Pens/Sens would be a dream 4/5 series. [/b]
The whole East needs a miracle to not be an embarrassment. Wings, Stars, and Sharks have more points than the current East leading Devils.
If the Wings stay healthy its theirs to lose. I don't think the Ducks can repeat. But I love watching Teemu.
Someone needs to take the Devils out quickly so boring to watch.
Caps miracle would be making the last spot and playing the Sens.
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Originally posted by slappy:
The whole East needs a miracle to not be an embarrassment. Wings, Stars, and Sharks have more points than the current East leading Devils.
That would only be relevant if they had all played the same teams the same # of times.
Just sayin...
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the best hockey game i ever saw in person was that pens/caps game in pittsburgh where juri slegr put one in from the top of the circle in overtime. we were 8 rows from the glass, right behind that net
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
reason #1,098 why Crosby is better than Ovechkin.
Sid is like James Bond.
Alex is...
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. <img src="http://www.nhldigest.com/wp-admin/images/Ovechkin%20Lookalike.jpg" alt=" - " />
Looks like the Anaheim Ducks have some fugly players as well:
<img src="http://byfiles.storage.msn.com/y1p7o9R6Nw3-cFWztxNFjXsVEfR6qVIMaXyCcNuf9h3BY_kVlQ9yjMSHi6TuMIwEErw" alt=" - " />
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You know what sucks about hockey...or American sports in general? It's the same teams in the same division year in year out. Why can't they have divisions where you get promoted and demoted? And I don't buy the 'our country is too big' argument, you could promote and relegate within the eastern and western conferences.
If the two best teams in the country are in the same conference...there's no way the two best teams in the country will have a chance to play in the final playoff series.
Make sense???
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because the owners pay hundreds of millions of dollars to start franchises, where as prem teams started as clubs
arent there rumors that the prem will end relegation in the next 5 years. hope not
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by slappy:
The whole East needs a miracle to not be an embarrassment. Wings, Stars, and Sharks have more points than the current East leading Devils.
That would only be relevant if they had all played the same teams the same # of times.
Just sayin... [/b]
Oh, it's relevant when you look just a little deeper.
Playoff(ish) West teams record vs. East
Ducks 6-1
Stars 0-1
Wings 2-1-1
Sharks 5-3
Flames 2-0-1
Nucks 3-1-1
Wild 3-2-1
Col 4-1
25-10-5
just sayin...
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Looks like the Anaheim Ducks have some fugly players as well:
We can all look like the Tennis God...
<img src="http://www.fuzzysignal.com/tennis/fashion/john-mcenroe.jpg" alt=" - " />
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A couple years ago, when the Caps lost the first round to the Canes, I was able to get a playoff ticket to MCI Center on the day of the game.
That's right: face-value, from the ticket booth, on the day of a playoff game. Sad, really.
Last time I went to Verizon Center, to see the Caps (unfortunately) beat the Rangers, I got no end of abuse as I was walking out. Some brilliant hockey mind shouted at me that the Rangers suck, to which I replied, "See you in the playoffs...OOOPS! Sorry! Guess not!"
It's always nice when predictions come to pass. Go Rangers! Caps are folding like a paper bag. :(
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Originally posted by Tom Cashel:
And to whoever said thay'd rather have a high draft pick than a "one and done" playoff run...that's sad too. You need a new team if your Caps have conditioned you to think that way. :(
Slappy's new motto:
Doin' Whatever It Takes To Avoid Having Any Caps Bandwagon Fans (even if it means eternal suckitude.)
ok - so it's a little long for a slogan.
Hey slappy - you seem to know a little about hockey (note emphasis). Got a question for you.
I know Backstrom is in the running for rookie of the year. Every point helps. Does he get credit for the own goal?
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
the best hockey game i ever saw in person was that pens/caps game in pittsburgh where juri slegr put one in from the top of the circle in overtime. we were 8 rows from the glass, right behind that net
Definitely NOT my best game attended:
I was @ that Pens v. Flyers game that went to 5 OTs.
Never seen anything like. I still shudder when the zamboni comes out. Only thing you could get @ 2:00 a.m. was twizzlers.
I left the game - went home - showered - & left for a 7:00 am meeting.
My signif other still hasn't been back to a game. It ruined her.
And it killed the Pens in that series...
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i thought you were going to say the 4 ot game that the pens won in 96 (against the caps). that nearly ruined a final in college for me
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
didn't the penguins lose that one?
Keith Primeau (an ex-Wing) won it for the Flyers, if I remember correctly. Pens were up 2-0 in the series, that goal tied it at 2-2, Flyers won in 6.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i thought you were going to say the 4 ot game that the pens won in 96 (against the caps). that nearly ruined a final in college for me
Was that @ home game for the Caps? Can't remember - but do know I watched it in Rockville MD.
Those games are so strange - if your team wins: elation. Lose & it's devastation.
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My best Pens v. Caps game. Featuring our beloved Gonchar contributing to an OT series winner:
Straka OT
winner ices Caps
CBC Sports
Sitting on the Penguins' bench in overtime, Martin Straka decided to take a page from the Babe Ruth playbook.
"Marty made the call on the bench before we went out there," said linemate Alexei Kovalev. "He said, `We're going to get one."'
Moments later Straka stole the puck from Washington defenceman Sergei Gonchar and made no mistake on a breakaway as the Pens eliminated the Capitals from Stanley Cup contention with a 4-3 win at Pittsburgh's Mellon Arena on Monday.
<img src="http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/lemieux0423.jpg" alt=" - " />
It was Straka's first goal of the series.
With the win, the Penguins take the series 4-2 and advance to an Eastern Conference semifinal date with the Buffalo Sabres.
Kovalev, Mario Lemieux and Robert Lang also scored for Pittsburgh. Brendan Witt, Jeff Halpern and Calle Johansson replied for the Capitals.
Rookie goalie Johan Hedberg was solid again between the Pittsburgh pipes. The former Manitoba Moose (IHL) netminder turned aside 28 shots for the win.
Olaf Kolzig made 31 stops in a losing cause.
The Pittsburgh Penguins continue to have the Washington Capitals' number come playoff time. It's the sixth time the Pens have disposed of the Caps in seven post-season meetings.
The Capitals' undoing was a lack of scoring punch. Washington managed just two even-strength goals in regulation, both in Game 6. Adam Oates, who tied Jaromir Jagr for the regular season assists lead, didn't record a point in the series.
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
didn't the penguins lose that one?
Keith Primeau (an ex-Wing) won it for the Flyers, if I remember correctly. Pens were up 2-0 in the series, that goal tied it at 2-2, Flyers won in 6. [/b]
yeah. i edited my post because i realized i read his too fast and confused the games :o
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Originally posted by Tom Cashel:
A couple years ago, when the Caps lost the first round to the Canes, I was able to get a playoff ticket to MCI Center on the day of the game.
That's right: face-value, from the ticket booth, on the day of a playoff game. Sad, really.
It's always nice when predictions come to pass. Go Rangers! Caps are folding like a paper bag. :(
Ahhh. A Rags fan would have to jump in.
Here's some little rules of the game. If you're gonna slag on another team make sure you have the facts right. (I know the Pen fans still haven't figure it out yet. But they're very slow ... I think its the water in the shit hole that is Pittsburgh.)
The Caps have NEVER played the 'Canes in the playoffs. :roll:
'Folding like a paper bag'? Tool, the Caps were 8-17 for the first two months of the season and now have chance (however slight) to make the playoffs.
No, I'm realistic. I know the team right now hasn't a chance in hell to make it past first round. I'd rather continue to grow with a higher pick.
The Caps have learned you don't win Cups by throwing money at the best available free agents. A teams foundation is best built through young talent playing and growing together. Maybe the Rags will learn that someday.
The Caps are the second youngest team and close to the playoffs.
Don't worry I won't shit on all you tools in few years when you want jump on the Caps bandwagon. Just don't be douche bags to other fans. And if you do ... know what fuck you're talking about.
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by Tom Cashel:
A couple years ago, when the Caps lost the first round to the Canes, I was able to get a playoff ticket to MCI Center on the day of the game.
That's right: face-value, from the ticket booth, on the day of a playoff game. Sad, really.
It's always nice when predictions come to pass. Go Rangers! Caps are folding like a paper bag. :(
Ahhh. A Rags fan would have to jump in.
Here's some little rules of the game. If you're gonna slag on another team make sure you have the facts right. (I know the Pen fans still haven't figure it out yet. But they're very slow ... I think its the water in the shit hole that is Pittsburgh.)
The Caps have NEVER played the 'Canes in the playoffs. :roll:
'Folding like a paper bag'? Tool, the Caps were 8-17 for the first two months of the season and now have chance (however slight) to make the playoffs.
No, I'm realistic. I know the team right now hasn't a chance in hell to make it past first round. I'd rather continue to grow with a lower pick.
The Caps have learned you don't win Cups by throwing money at the best available free agents. A teams foundation is best built through young talent playing and growing together. Maybe the Rags will learn that someday.
The Caps are the second youngest team and close to the playoffs.
Don't worry I won't shit on all you tools in few years when you want jump on the Caps bandwagon. Just don't be douche bags to other fans. And if you do ... know what fuck you're talking about. [/b]
Seriously - does anyone in your real life even like you?
I'd want sworn testimony from your mother...
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I guess the Caps didn't throw money @ Jagr huh?
And I guess the Rangers didn't win a cup by throwing cash @ Messier huh?
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Originally posted by slappy:
The Caps have learned you don't win Cups
They have learned exceedingly well:
From 1892 to the present, over a century of Stanley Cup winners:
2006-07 - Anaheim Ducks
2005-06 - Carolina Hurricanes
2003-04 - Tampa Bay Lightning
2002-03 - New Jersey Devils
2001-02 - Detroit Red Wings
2000-01 - Colorado Avalanche
1999-2000 - New Jersey Devils
1998-99 - Dallas Stars
1997-98 - Detroit Red Wings
1996-97 - Detroit Red Wings
1995-96 - Colorado Avalanche
1994-95 - New Jersey Devils
1993-94 - New York Rangers
1992-93 - Montreal Canadiens
1991-92 - Pittsburgh Penguins
1990-91 - Pittsburgh Penguins
1989-90 - Edmonton Oilers
1988-89 - Calgary Flames
1987-88 - Edmonton Oilers
1986-87 - Edmonton Oilers
1985-86 - Montreal Canadiens
1984-85 - Edmonton Oilers
1983-84 - Edmonton Oilers
1982-83 - New York Islanders
1981-82 - New York Islanders
1980-81 - New York Islanders
1979-80 - New York Islanders
1978-79 - Montreal Canadiens
1977-78 - Montreal Canadiens
1976-77 - Montreal Canadiens
1975-76 - Montreal Canadiens
1974-75 - Philadelphia Flyers
1973-74 - Philadelphia Flyers
1972-73 - Montreal Canadiens
1971-72 - Boston Bruins
1970-71 - Montreal Canadiens
1969-70 - Boston Bruins
1968-69 - Montreal Canadiens
1967-68 - Montreal Canadiens
1966-67 - Toronto Maple Leafs
1965-66 - Montreal Canadiens
1964-65 - Montreal Canadiens
1963-64 - Toronto Maple Leafs
1962-63 - Toronto Maple Leafs
1961-62 - Toronto Maple Leafs
1960-61 - Chicago Blackhawks
1959-60 - Montreal Canadiens
1958-59 - Montreal Canadiens
1957-58 - Montreal Canadiens
1956-57 - Montreal Canadiens
1955-56 - Montreal Canadiens
1954-55 - Detroit Red Wings
1953-54 - Detroit Red Wings
1952-53 - Montreal Canadiens
1951-52 - Detroit Red Wings
1950-51 - Toronto Maple Leafs
1949-50 - Detroit Red Wings
1948-49 - Toronto Maple Leafs
1947-48 - Toronto Maple Leafs
1946-47 - Toronto Maple Leafs
1945-46 - Montreal Canadiens
1944-45 - Toronto Maple Leafs
1943-44 - Montreal Canadiens
1942-43 - Detroit Red Wings
1941-42 - Toronto Maple Leafs
1940-41 - Boston Bruins
1939-40 - New York Rangers
1938-39 - Boston Bruins
1937-38 - Chicago Black Hawks
1936-37 - Detroit Red Wings
1935-36 - Detroit Red Wings
1934-35 - Montreal Maroons
1933-34 - Chicago Black Hawks
1932-33 - New York Rangers
1931-32 - Toronto Maple Leafs
1930-31 - Montreal Canadiens
1929-30 - Montreal Canadiens
1928-29 - Boston Bruins
1927-28 - New York Rangers
1926-27 - Ottawa Senators
1925-26 - Montreal Maroons
1924-25 - Victoria Cougars
1923-24 - Montreal Canadiens
1922-23 - Ottawa Senators
1921-22 - Toronto St.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Seriously - does anyone in your real life even like you? I'd even want sworn testimony from your mother...
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I guess the Caps didn't throw money @ Jagr huh?
And I guess the Rangers didn't win a cup by throwing cash @ Messier huh? [/b]
Tard, you're on a board for a club in DC on a thread for the Caps.
You don't really think I'm gonna roll over take your shit?
Are you really that slow that you can't comprehend it?
You can't be really be this stupid?
Again, look slooooowly and carefully at my last post. I addressed the Jagr debacle "The Caps have learned you don't win Cups by throwing money at the best available free agents. "
Again, take your toys and play somewhere else. You'll like me much better. I might even stop posting about the shit hole that is Pittsburgh.
You should change your name to 'I'm Slappy's Slave" 'cause thats what you are by coming back for more.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by slappy:
The Caps have learned you don't win Cups
They have learned exceedingly well:
From 1892 to the present, over a century of Stanley Cup winners:
2006-07 - Anaheim Ducks
2005-06 - Carolina Hurricanes
2003-04 - Tampa Bay Lightning
2002-03 - New Jersey Devils
Blah, blah, blah[/b]
C'mon slave. That was weak.
Work harder.
Faster.
Better.
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by Tom Cashel:
A couple years ago, when the Caps lost the first round to the Canes, I was able to get a playoff ticket to MCI Center on the day of the game.
That's right: face-value, from the ticket booth, on the day of a playoff game. Sad, really.
It's always nice when predictions come to pass. Go Rangers! Caps are folding like a paper bag. :(
Ahhh. A Rags fan would have to jump in.
Here's some little rules of the game. If you're gonna slag on another team make sure you have the facts right. (I know the Pen fans still haven't figure it out yet. But they're very slow ... I think its the water in the shit hole that is Pittsburgh.)
The Caps have NEVER played the 'Canes in the playoffs. :roll:
'Folding like a paper bag'? Tool, the Caps were 8-17 for the first two months of the season and now have chance (however slight) to make the playoffs.
No, I'm realistic. I know the team right now hasn't a chance in hell to make it past first round. I'd rather continue to grow with a higher pick.
The Caps have learned you don't win Cups by throwing money at the best available free agents. A teams foundation is best built through young talent playing and growing together. Maybe the Rags will learn that someday.
The Caps are the second youngest team and close to the playoffs.
Don't worry I won't shit on all you tools in few years when you want jump on the Caps bandwagon. Just don't be douche bags to other fans. And if you do ... know what fuck you're talking about. [/b]
i'm going to have to hear what sienna miller thinks about new york before i take a side here
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i'm going to have to hear what sienna miller thinks about new york before i take a side here
<img src="http://www.nypost.com/gossip/celebp/05152007/photo01.jpg" alt=" - " />
Sienna Miller draws a crowd in Manhattan.
She seems to like it!
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oh my! please tell me beer pong is legal
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i'm going to have to hear what sienna miller thinks about new york before i take a side here
She was born there and 'hangs' with Sean Combs.
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sounds like the rangers have better fans than the caps
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
the flyers have better fans than the pens
really weak. i didn't even crack a smile at that one.
besides, i heard she's an islanders fan.
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Originally posted by slappy:
besides, i heard she's an islanders fan.
Hilary Duff and Sienna Miller? Man, the Islanders officially have the "it" factor.
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Originally posted by slappy:
besides, i heard she's an islanders fan.
so then islanders have better fans than the caps?
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
Originally posted by slappy:
besides, i heard she's an islanders fan.
so then islanders have better fans than the caps? [/b]
you redeemed yourself. i did smile at that. but I would try new material in the future.
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This is funny. After I read this quote though, I had to pile on..
"If you're gonna slag on another team make sure you have the facts right. (I know the Pen fans still haven't figure it out yet. But they're very slow ... I think its the water in the shit hole that is Pittsburgh.)"
I was at a Caps/Pens playoff game several years ago ..back when Dale Hunter played and it was one of the last years in USAir Arena. Hunter the goon tries starting a fight with a Pens player and I yell out "Hunter you pussy.. why don't you quit trying to start fights and play the game!" ..To which a Caps fan turns around to me and says "Hunter is no pussy! ..he'll fight anybody!!.. he's the toughest guy out there!" ..To which I reply.. "Oh yeah? ...he's a fuckin goon! He can't play hockey, all he can do is fight, and just like the rest of your team, he'll never win a Stanley Cup because he doesn't deserve it, and neither does this town that doesn't support your team!!" (I was sitting about 15 rows back.. ...at a playoff game.. ...in DC.. ..and I paid face value for the tickets... half of the arena is Pens fans ..which you'll NEVER see in the "shithole that is Pittsburgh") ..but I digress..
So this smart guy replies "Oh yeah, when's the last time the Penguins won the Stanley cup, when you were 3 ?" ...and I said "Yeah asshole, I'm 7 years old... we won it 4 years ago... now sit down and shut up and make sure that you tell your boss thank you for giving you the company tickets for the playoff game!" ..and his buddy tapped him on the shoulder and said, embarrassingly, "Uh... yeah man, just sit down. They just won it a few years ago.."
So, um.. I don't think he really had his facts straight. ...and another thing.. about being slow.. Do they still put the definition of what the penalties are on the scoreboard/screen above the ice when there's an icing or off-sides call at a Caps game?? ...because uh... they don't do that in Pittsburgh..because.. um.. we know what the penalties are. ;)
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O Those Crazy Rookies
Brooks Laich cracked: "I told him before the Pittsburgh game that we're both going to score a goal. I just [joked] with him today that I forgot to say what net to score it on."
A Culture Of Losing
"No one expects us to do anything," Coach Bruce Boudreau said. "I told them, 'Just play the way you're playing.' This is a great learning experience. The only people expect something from us, is us, quite frankly."
<img src="http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/images/killer_penguin.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by samsfresh5:
I was at a Caps/Pens playoff game several years ago ..back when Dale Hunter played and it was one of the last years in USAir Arena...
Seriously, how long does it take for the reading comprehension to sink in with you Pen-tards?
I said post some facts.
This isn't Penthouse Forum, tool.
If you want to masturbate about a Pens victory from over ten years ago take it to the Pittsburgh is a shit-hole thread.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
O Those Crazy Rookies
Brooks Laich cracked: "I told him before the Pittsburgh game that we're both going to score a goal. I just [joked] with him today that I forgot to say what net to score it on."
A Culture Of Losing
"No one expects us to do anything," Coach Bruce Boudreau said. "I told them, 'Just play the way you're playing.' This is a great learning experience. The only people expect something from us, is us, quite frankly."
Still weak!
If you're gonna post cutesy little commentary, make sure its correct.
Laich is not a rookie, tool, it's his second season. (And don't try to get out of it by saying you're talking about Bäckström. 'Those' and 'Rookies' is plural ... that means more than one.)
Boudreau's record is now 27-15-7 not really what I'd call a 'Culture of Losing'
Since you apparently like random pictures of penguins...
<img src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_eCFvLnrOz1w/RldyJEp-YKI/AAAAAAAAAA0/nUQzgoZXA9A/s320/100_4204.JPG" alt=" - " />
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Best Caps Player ever:
<img src="http://www.canadianhockeycards.com/images/Scott_Stevens.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by slappy:
The Caps have NEVER played the 'Canes in the playoffs. :roll:
You're correct. I looked at the ticket stub, and it was the Lightning.
Originally posted by slappy:
'Folding like a paper bag'? Tool, the Caps were 8-17 for the first two months of the season and now have chance (however slight) to make the playoffs.
Yes, folding like a paper bag. Who gives a fuck about the first two months of the season? What award do the the Washington Ovechkins get for that? Spot 'em a couple points in their April golf tournament?
You can call 'em "Rags" all you want. I know they spent many years sucking wind. 7 years without playoffs. For some reason I didn't lose all faith in my team, though.
Washington doesn't need to learn that you don't win by throwing money at players. They need to learn that if you're going to throw money at big name players, you ought to play a system that works to their strengths, instead of shoehorning them into your coach's pet system. Y'know, like the good stuff they're doing with Ovechkin now? And winning (sometimes)?
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Hey Slappy, you might want to switch it up a bit. "Tool" is getting old.
Here's a tip: if you remove the "T" from Tool and put an "F" in its place, it spells "Fool."
"Fool" is also a good stunner of an insult for use in your repertoire.
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Originally posted by Tom Cashel:
You can call 'em "Rags" all you want. I know they spent many years sucking wind. 7 years without playoffs. For some reason I didn't lose all faith in my team, though.
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Does it look like I've lost faith in the Caps?
Sorry Tommy Toolbag, you don't get to decide what I call you. You'd think you'd have a little common sense not jump on the short bus with Pen-tards to slag on the Caps. At least come correct with your smack, tool.
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Congrats to Olie on 300 wins last night.
<img src="http://cdn.nhl.com/images/upload/2008/03/kolzig031208_275x350_caps.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Best Caps Player ever:
<img src="http://www.canadianhockeycards.com/images/Scott_Stevens.jpg" alt=" - " />
Sorry, not even close....here's a few much better I came up with in about 5 seconds.
<img src="http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/members/splash/P200203S.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.hhoflegendsclassic.com/players/playerimages/gartner.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.atmos.albany.edu/student/eric/hunter.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.tropicalwarners.com/caps/photos/calle.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Best Caps Player ever:
<img src="http://www.canadianhockeycards.com/images/Scott_Stevens.jpg" alt=" - " />
Sorry, not even close....here's a few much better I came up with in about 5 seconds.
<img src="http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/members/splash/P200203S.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.hhoflegendsclassic.com/players/playerimages/gartner.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.atmos.albany.edu/student/eric/hunter.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.tropicalwarners.com/caps/photos/calle.jpg" alt=" - " /> [/b]
Dale Hunter is better than Scott Stevens?!?!?!?!?!?
Kidding right?
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i dunno, looks like he has calle johansson too
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Dale Hunter was twice the player of Scott Stevens....Dale Hunter never had a bad game in his career, and whenever he was on the ice or the bench the whole team raised their game. Scott Stevens had many a bad game. He's a great player but that's not everything, it's not just individual skills that make the greatest players.
As for Johansson, he is one of the most intelligent defensemen that's ever played. He could read the play like no other so made it look so easy. He was Rod Langway in a helmet.
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you just like dale hunter because he's the closest thing the caps have had to keano :p
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
you just like dale hunter because he's the closest thing the caps have had to keano :D ;)
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
O Those Crazy Rookies
Brooks Laich cracked: "I told him before the Pittsburgh game that we're both going to score a goal. I just [joked] with him today that I forgot to say what net to score it on."
A Culture Of Losing
"No one expects us to do anything," Coach Bruce Boudreau said. "I told them, 'Just play the way you're playing.' This is a great learning experience. The only people expect something from us, is us, quite frankly."
Still weak!
If you're gonna post cutesy little commentary, make sure its correct.
Laich is not a rookie, tool, it's his second season. (And don't try to get out of it by saying you're talking about Bäckström. 'Those' and 'Rookies' is plural ... that means more than one.)
Boudreau's record is now 27-15-7 not really what I'd call a 'Culture of Losing'
Since you apparently like random pictures of penguins...
<img src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_eCFvLnrOz1w/RldyJEp-YKI/AAAAAAAAAA0/nUQzgoZXA9A/s320/100_4204.JPG" alt=" - " /> [/b]
<img src="http://www.peacockshock.com/archives/gaypenguinusa-thumb.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
Dale Hunter was twice the player of Scott Stevens....Dale Hunter never had a bad game in his career, and whenever he was on the ice or the bench the whole team raised their game. Scott Stevens had many a bad game. He's a great player but that's not everything, it's not just individual skills that make the greatest players.
As for Johansson, he is one of the most intelligent defensemen that's ever played. He could read the play like no other so made it look so easy. He was Rod Langway in a helmet.
Preach on brother, Preach
Stevens career points 1026
Hunter career points 1136 (and in about 300 less games than Stevens!)
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by Tom Cashel:
You can call 'em "Rags" all you want. I know they spent many years sucking wind. 7 years without playoffs. For some reason I didn't lose all faith in my team, though.
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Does it look like I've lost faith in the Caps?
Sorry Tommy Toolbag, you don't get to decide what I call you. You'd think you'd have a little common sense not jump on the short bus with Pen-tards to slag on the Caps. At least come correct with your smack, tool. [/b]
LOL. What an asshole. :D
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Originally posted by samsfresh5:
This is funny. After I read this quote though, I had to pile on..
"If you're gonna slag on another team make sure you have the facts right. (I know the Pen fans still haven't figure it out yet. But they're very slow ... I think its the water in the shit hole that is Pittsburgh.)"
I was at a Caps/Pens playoff game several years ago ..back when Dale Hunter played and it was one of the last years in USAir Arena. Hunter the goon tries starting a fight with a Pens player and I yell out "Hunter you pussy.. why don't you quit trying to start fights and play the game!" ..To which a Caps fan turns around to me and says "Hunter is no pussy! ..he'll fight anybody!!.. he's the toughest guy out there!" ..To which I reply.. "Oh yeah? ...he's a fuckin goon! He can't play hockey, all he can do is fight, and just like the rest of your team, he'll never win a Stanley Cup because he doesn't deserve it, and neither does this town that doesn't support your team!!" (I was sitting about 15 rows back.. ...at a playoff game.. ...in DC.. ..and I paid face value for the tickets... half of the arena is Pens fans ..which you'll NEVER see in the "shithole that is Pittsburgh") ..but I digress..
So this smart guy replies "Oh yeah, when's the last time the Penguins won the Stanley cup, when you were 3 ?" ...and I said "Yeah asshole, I'm 7 years old... we won it 4 years ago... now sit down and shut up and make sure that you tell your boss thank you for giving you the company tickets for the playoff game!" ..and his buddy tapped him on the shoulder and said, embarrassingly, "Uh... yeah man, just sit down. They just won it a few years ago.."
So, um.. I don't think he really had his facts straight. ...and another thing.. about being slow.. Do they still put the definition of what the penalties are on the scoreboard/screen above the ice when there's an icing or off-sides call at a Caps game?? ...because uh... they don't do that in Pittsburgh..because.. um.. we know what the penalties are. ;)
Oh yeah???? Well, this one time, in band camp.......... :roll:
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Originally posted by Tom Cashel:
What an asshole. :D
...said Mario to a tender Sidney sprawled all fours.
<img src="http://assets.espn.go.com/media/nhl/2005/0730/photo/g_mariocrosby_01_195.jpg" alt=" - " />
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that guys a rangers fan
if youre going to be a douchebag to other fans, at least get your fact right
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
Oh yeah???? Well, this one time, in band camp.......... :roll:
Good comeback!
Oh by the way..
Icing - in ice hockey occurs when a player shoots the puck across at least two red lines, the opposing team's goal line being the last. When icing occurs, a linesman stops play. Play is resumed with a faceoff in the defending zone of the team that committed the infraction.
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Offsides - If a player precedes the puck into the offensive zone, play is called and a faceoff takes place in the neutral zone.
Also, a pass made across a blue line and the center line is ruled an offside pass, also referred to as a two-line pass. Play is called and the faceoff takes place at the originating point of the pass.
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yeah...the center line doesnt count anymore :o
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
yeah...the center line doesnt count anymore :( :o Must be that damn Pittsburgh water. We call it Iron City ...and truthfully, it *is* crap!!!! :D
...I copied that from Wikipedia, so I guess I need to go to more Caps games and watch the scoreboard to get the correct definitions of the rules.
However, it's is still Pens 2 and Caps 0, right? (Stanley Cups) :p
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
that guys a rangers fan
if youre going to be a douchebag to other fans, at least get your fact right
I apologize for that, you are correct.
And as appreciation for the Pens helping the Caps out last night by beating Sabres. Here's something Pens and Caps fans can laugh at together.
OOOO La, la Sasson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duvWNZ68p1g)
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
that guys a rangers fan
Incorrect, ThatGuy's not only a Cap's Fan. He was a
Caps Fan of the Game! (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=016773) :p
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
that guys a rangers fan
if youre going to be a douchebag to other fans, at least get your fact right
I apologize for that, you are correct.
And as appreciation for the Pens helping the Caps out last night by beating Sabres. Here's something Pens and Caps fans can laugh at together.
OOOO La, la Sasson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duvWNZ68p1g) [/b]
haha...thats awesome
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Not to detract from the intelligent Caps/Pens debate...
Are we all in agreement (with the obvious exception of Vansmack, of course), that Chris Pronger needs to get about a 20 game suspension at this point? For years he's been one of the most terrible human beings ever to sully the league and after receiving multiple suspensions in last year's playoffs, he's now stomped multiple times on another players leg. Chris Simon got 30 games for this, and despite being Chris Simon, he had nowhere near the rap-sheet or reputation Pronger has.
If there's ever been a case of "star treatment" in sports, its this nutjob not getting some serious time off unpaid. What scum.
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Ducks' Chris Pronger isn't disciplined in stepping incident (http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ducks/la-sp-duckrep14mar14,1,7685249.story)
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As I said earlier about it...
Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
If there's ever been a case of "star treatment" in sports, its this nutjob not getting some serious time off unpaid. What scum.
Karma's going to catch up to this guy at some point in his life.
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Karma's going to catch up to this guy at some point in his life.
<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/NHL_Mitchell/ChrisPronger25oftheAnaheimDucksc-1.jpg" alt=" - " />
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i love how pronger's shirt, above, reads "Dicks" :p
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Originally posted by vansmack:
<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/NHL_Mitchell/ChrisPronger25oftheAnaheimDucksc-1.jpg" alt=" - " />
I can tolerate southern markets like Tampa Bay and Anaheim and Carolina winning Stanley Cups. And heck, I even respect Anaheim because Niedermayer, Selanne, and Giguere are class players. But -- and I am not exaggerating one iota -- seeing Chris Pronger lift the Stanley Cup last year was the only moment in hockey history that ever made me feel sick. I, literally, threw up in my mouth a bit. Despite his talent, he's indefensibly human garbage.
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let's fuel some more hatred:
:roll: as if he makes the rules around here or is in any position to judge. then again, as a caps fan he would be very familiar with the term "weak" so maybe he is well-placed for such assessments.
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I remember seeing the Wings plays at the Caps in (I'll guess) 2002 and I turned up by the dumbest Caps fan in history. He was really overweight and wearing a Capitals beret and even though the Wings were up 4-0 in the second and the crowd was easily 50% Wings fans, he just kept going on and on loudly about how Detroit was a "garbage franchise" (we were the defending Cup champs and had won the most Cups of any American franchise) and kept going on about how the Wings wished they played in a venue as good as MCI Center.
I finally had enough and yelled the few seats over if he'd ever been to JLA and what was so terrible about it, and he said the "sight lines" were poor and you couldn't see anything. So, I just went "Yeah, you're right: every time I go to Joe Louis I can't follow the game -- I'm too distracted by our 10 Cup Championship banners... good thing your WNBA attendance record banner isn't as g-----n catchy." Whole section of mostly Wings fans busts out laughing and then it was open season with people ripping him. Best line some guy had: "Washington -- first in liberty, first in justice, third in the Southeast division!" I'll give Beret guy credit, though, he kept mouthing off and attempting to yell over the PA announcements of Wings goals.
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I also remember seeing the Wings in Carolina 2 or 3 years ago and being in the men's room at intermission, and this guy in a Wings jersey walked away from the urinal and headed for the door. This real redneck looking guy in a Canes jersey goes, "'Scuuuuuuuse me, Yankee, but in Care-ohhh-lina they teach us to wash our hands after we use the bathroom." Mild chuckling throughout the bathroom. Wings fan just keeps going, doesn't look back or turn his head at all, but during his last steps out the door, says calmly, "In Detroit they teach us not to piss on ourself." :D
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tsn.ca is reporting (http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=232002) Pronger is getting suspended tomorrow.
Pronger waived his right to an in-person hearing in favor of a phone hearing.
Traditionally, the type of hearing usually speaks to the number of games a player can be suspended. The phone hearing normally means four games or less, while an in-person hearing means five or more.
By waiving his right to an in-person hearing, Pronger acknowledges his suspension could be more severe than the phone treatment usually determines.
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
I remember seeing the Wings plays at the Caps in (I'll guess) 2002 and I turned up by the dumbest Caps fan in history.
Writing Tips (http://www.writersblock.ca/tips/monthtip/tipjan98.htm)
Respect Your Audience
A writer who wants to lead an audience towards a conclusion must refrain from clipping on a leash and pulling too hard. Being human, the audience is likely to resist being told what to think unless already perfectly in tune with the writer's thinking ... and how often does that happen?
A writer who is very close to a subject being written about may fail to notice that the facts presented are open to alternative interpretations. If the writer's interpretation is presented as the only logical or only possible view, readers whose interpretations differâ??possibly a considerable majority of the audienceâ??could be irritated, or offended, or worse. As Sherlock Holmes said, in A Study in Scarlet, "I ought to know by this time that when a fact appears opposed to a long train of deductions it invariably proves to be capable of bearing some other interpretation."
Techniques to Use and to Avoid
A good approach is to lay out the facts in the most logical and cogent manner possible, then trust the reader to draw the appropriate conclusions. This technique is particularly applicable to fiction writing, in which character and setting are demonstrated by description, conversation, and situation. One hallmark of a less-developed fiction writer is dependence on narrative that bluntly tells the readerâ??in a sentence or twoâ??what to think of a character or living space, instead of providing evidence to draw the reader to the desired conclusion in longer descriptive or situational passages. For example, rather than say "The Smiths had low-class tastes", the writer might describe how the Smith family's house was decorated.
When conclusions must explicitly be stated, make sure that the presentation is neutral and respects the independence of the reader to take them or to leave them. Trust to both your power of persuasion and your audience's common sense.
Avoid making value judgements based on certain facts or conclusions. Values are best judged by each reader independently. For example, a newspaper story leads off with the statements: "Students at Smith High School achieved the highest test scores of all the high schools in town. The school is also consistently rated "better than most" by a majority of its graduates." Do not follow up by a statement such as: "Smith High School is the best in the city." The question that is sure to be asked is: "Best at what?" Smith may be the best academically (or maybe it is simply located in an affluent neighbourhood). Maybe other schools have better remedial reading programs, sports participation, or drama and chess clubs. Value, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
Avoid placing the reader on your side of an us-versus-them statement: "We now can see that....", "We recommend that...." Statements like these vaguely imply the superiority of the "we" (author) who is dictating to the "they" (reader). Rewrite the statements to emphasize the benefits of agreeing with the conclusions or advice being presented. For example, rather than use "We recommend that the Whizzbang be placed on a hard, flat surface", try "For best operation, place the Whizzbang on a hard, flat surface."
When to Force the Issue
Finally, ignore most of the preceding advice when writing cautions or warnings about hazardous materials, products, or processes. In these cases, you must be blunt and explicit about the hazard; you must ensure that the reader will understand the consequences of failing to heed the good advice being provided (value judgement); and you must emphasize the credibility of the "we" (expert) who is giving advice to the "they" (assumed novice) by stating credentials, as appropriate.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
let's fuel some more hatred:
prediction: slappy will declare the above to be "weak"... always a great come-back :roll: as if he makes the rules around here or is in any position to judge. then again, as a caps fan he would be very familiar with the term "weak" so maybe he is well-placed for such assessments.
Awwwww. Looks like somebody is feeling left out. Don't worry I have some tips when you need a little attention.
Don't hate. You need a little 'LOL'! Those crazy lolcats always provide me with a little boost to get through the day. I NEVER get tired of them, unlike the lame, I mean weak, posts from Pen-tards.
<img src="http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/rockymeadow/LolCatRenderer-17.jpg" alt=" - " />
I think I see his balls! LOL!!! LOL!!!
Prediction: I predict using 'Prediction:' at the end of a post doesn't create an invisible force field that will block my judgment. And you are weak.
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dance cap fan, dance
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I remember when I worked for the Porsche dealer in Arlington and Joey Juneau (sp?) brought his Porsche in to be fixed for the third time. Chris Simon followed him in as his ride home. Juneau was a big guy but "for the love of God" Chris Simon was the most intimidating individual I've ever seen in my lifetime.
I shook hands with them both but when I shook hands with Simon it was literally like me holding my 5 year old son's hand.
Celebrity death match Pronger v Simon....who's your money on?
Simon all they way for me.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
let's fuel some more hatred:
:roll: as if he makes the rules around here or is in any position to judge. then again, as a caps fan he would be very familiar with the term "weak" so maybe he is well-placed for such assessments.
Great, great stuff. Very happy to save them for future installments of the hugely popular game show: Who's Your Daddy
<img src="http://netcrashers.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/5e881a12-e196-435a-b24e-8cb5494e7db7.jpg" alt=" - " />
What other sports franchises have been dominated over the years like the Caps have been humbled by the Pens?
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Don't know....looks like he's laughing if you ask me.
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<img src="http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2008/03/14/PH2008031403855.jpg" alt=" - " />
The Penguins are 12-6-4 without Crosby this season. He missed 21 games after hurting his right ankle in January, came back and played in three games, but then missed Wednesday's 7-3 home win against Buffalo because of ankle soreness.
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Originally posted by vansmack:
<img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/NHL_Mitchell/ChrisPronger25oftheAnaheimDucksc-1.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Why does looking at that photo give me the urge to say "Howdy John-boy"?
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Originally posted by Shemp:
<img src="http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2008/03/14/PH2008031403855.jpg" alt=" - " />
The Penguins are 12-6-4 without Crosby this season. He missed 21 games after hurting his right ankle in January, came back and played in three games, but then missed Wednesday's 7-3 home win against Buffalo because of ankle soreness.
I hear ya Shemp - It's amazing how they step up & it really shows the completeness of that team.
Hopefully Hossa plays tomorrow v. the Flyers.
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The National Hockey League has handed Anaheim Ducks defenceman Chris Pronger an eight-game suspension for stomping on Vancouver Canucks forward Ryan Kesler in a game Wednesday night.
The team has nine games remaining in the regular season, starting Saturday night against the St. Louis Blues. He is eligible to return for the team's final game on Apr. 6 against the Phoenix Coyotes.
It's the eighth time that Pronger has been suspended in his 14-year NHL career and his third in less than a year.
I would've doubled it, but I had absolutely no doubt they wouldn't make him miss a playoff game.
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Away fans at the igloo.....that would never happen in Philly, but then again their fans aren't a bunch of pussies..(well, they are, but not as big pussies as mulletville)
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
I hear ya Shemp - It's amazing how they step up & it really shows the completeness of that team.
I think the point I was trying to make is the Pens do pretty well without Crosby. The Caps wouldn't have a chance without Ovechkin. A better supporting cast can't help but make a player better. Go Caps.
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Great, great stuff. Very happy to save them for future installments of the hugely popular game show: Who's Your Daddy
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Two hockey fights websites say the Caps Brooks Laich was the 'daddy' in that fight.
Drop you gloves (http://dropyourgloves.com/Fights/GameEvents.aspx?Game=113745&Fight=106339)
Hockey Fights (http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/2234/fightcard/reg2007)
Team 'domination' is cyclical. The Caps were 24-7 against the Pens from '82 to '87.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
dance cap fan, dance
Yeah, I thought about that before I replied. But it was so pathetic I figured it was a cry for a little attention.
I'm pretty much done replying to Pen-tards until the quality goes up.
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Originally posted by slappy:
Don't worry I have some tips when you need a little attention.
Don't hate.
given the level of maturity you've displayed up until now, i suspect that the irony of you making that statement is completely lost upon you.
Originally posted by slappy:
using 'Prediction:' at the end of a post doesn't create an invisible force field that will block my judgment. And you are weak.
never meant to - it only served to show how predictable you are. thanks for proving my point, tho. it would have been easy for you to do otherwise and prove me wrong, but...
listen, slappy, the sooner you get this through your teenagerish skull (seriously, how old are you?), the happier you'll be: the penguins are a good team, and have a record of being better than the caps. they have loyal fans, and better ones than the caps. deal with it, and grow up.
why don't you channel your frustration into something useful and/or creative? take up an art, fight for darfur, save the environment... as far as i can tell, other than entertaining us (thanks, btw) you're only contributing to your own emotional undoing.
Originally posted by slappy:
I'm pretty much done replying to Pen-tards until the quality goes up.
dance, baby, dance.
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Nice win in a Shoot out.
<img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080316/capt.e1d115584aaf4697b997bf5e0c9f4dae.bruins_capitals_hockey_vzn107.jpg" alt=" - " />
Ovie held without a point for first time in 8 games.
Still one away from being 1st Cap to have 100 points in back to back seasons.
<img src="http://www.onfrozenblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/stpatscaps.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Caps record since Boudreau took over in November.
Making a good case for getting the Jack Adams Award.
GP W L OTL PTS
New Jersey 51 33 14 4 70
Pittsburgh 50 32 13 5 69
Washington 52 29 16 7 65
Montreal 52 28 18 6 62
Buffalo 54 26 18 10 62
Boston 54 27 20 7 61
Florida 51 25 19 7 57
Carolina 52 27 23 2 56
NY Rangers 50 24 18 8 56
Philadelphia 53 23 21 9 55
Ottawa 52 24 22 6 54
Toronto 51 24 22 5 53
NY Islanders 55 21 27 7 49
Atlanta 53 20 25 8 48
Tampa Bay 51 19 26 6 44
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I know this list could be endless, but who is the most annoying prick to wear the penguin jersey?
My vote goes to this douchebag..
<img src="http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/495545.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193CEF9A2866663FA4397807DB5E017EAC7284831B75F48EF45" alt=" - " />
here's a good one of him getting one of many beat downs by a Cap!!!
<img src="http://www.sover.net/~clifdisc/rangers/barnaby-doig-big.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
here's a good one of him getting one of many beat downs by a Cap!!!
This happened so many times that the only picture of Barnaby getting a beat down you could find was when he was with the Rangers, eh?
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
here's a good one of him getting one of many beat downs by a Cap!!!
This happened so many times that the only picture of Barnaby getting a beat down you could find was when he was with the Rangers, eh? [/b]
No, that was the first pic, not only....
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dupe - below...
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
here's a good one of him getting one of many beat downs by a Cap!!!
This happened so many times that the only picture of Barnaby getting a beat down you could find was when he was with the Rangers, eh? [/b]
No, that was the first pic, not only.... [/b]
Most annoying prick?:
If I didn't like the Pens - I'd say this guy:
Ruutu b-slappin' Tucker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRiLdkOI-KA) [/b]
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Originally posted by slappy:
Caps record since Boudreau took over in November.
Making a good case for getting the Jack Adams Award.
GP W L OTL PTS
New Jersey 51 33 14 4 70
Pittsburgh 50 32 13 5 69
Washington 52 29 16 7 65
Montreal 52 28 18 6 62
Buffalo 54 26 18 10 62
Boston 54 27 20 7 61
Florida 51 25 19 7 57
Carolina 52 27 23 2 56
NY Rangers 50 24 18 8 56
Philadelphia 53 23 21 9 55
Ottawa 52 24 22 6 54
Toronto 51 24 22 5 53
NY Islanders 55 21 27 7 49
Atlanta 53 20 25 8 48
Tampa Bay 51 19 26 6 44
That would be endlessly fascinating if only 2/3's of the season mattered...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOfgv2DXB8k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOfgv2DXB8k)
I think Olie was almost charged with a hate crime for beating the piss out of some fag after this one....how embarrrassing, getting a pounding from a goalie who can hardly move because of all the padding!!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjptcQgRuxM&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjptcQgRuxM&NR=1)
I guess the penquin just isn't an aggressive bird huh?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuJaaVEg_EA&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuJaaVEg_EA&NR=1)
wait....there's more!!!
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Caps get another important win.
Ovie is selected for the 6th time for the #1 Star of the NHL (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?page=ThreeStarsPage&service=page).
<img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080319/capt.8bb46eead1264636b5c41d8834247e1c.capitals_predators_hockey_tnmh109.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Ovie hits 60 goals keeping Caps playoffs hopes alive. First player to hit 60 goals in 12 years.
Bäckström nets two goals with one the GWG.
Playoffs, Hart, and Calder all in sight. Hope is alive.
<img src="http://cdn.nhl.com/images/wire/ap/2008/03/9e0b2886-e70b-4a0c-82b7-03f5c01cd867.jpg" alt=" - " />
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For all you pens bandwagoners....
<img src="http://www.stitchesny.com/NY_Islanders.gif" alt=" - " />
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whew, thanks for not including me
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You can't contain him. Only hook him.
<img src="http://cdn.nhl.com/images/upload/2008/03/Ao-Thrashers.jpg" alt=" - " />
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I think they call that 'splitting the defense' don't they?
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I love the 'game face' at 1:08. Good thing he doesn't play basketball, they'd be constantly wiping his tears off the court.
Tribute (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UpLXqI0qhc)
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
For all you pens bandwagoners....
<img src="http://www.stitchesny.com/NY_Islanders.gif" alt=" - " />
Are you celebrating the top team in the Conference?
standings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/standings/conference/)
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Are you celebrating the top team in the Conference?
standings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/standings/conference/)
Kinda hard to call them 'the' top team.
They have played one more game than the Habs.
But hey, I know the Pen's bandwagon doesn't stop for these simple concepts.
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does that mean the caps are more than 2 points out of the last playoff spot
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Originally posted by slappy:
Kinda hard to call them 'the' top team.
They have played one more game than the Habs.
But hey, I know the Pen's bandwagon doesn't stop for these simple concepts.
the pens have played one more game - yet they have two more wins. so the habs can't cover the pen's lead with one game. pens still #1.
pens also have the best record of the conference(57.7% wins vs. 55.8%).
so. fucking. pathetic.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
pens also have the best record of the league (57.7% wins vs. 55.8%).
Really? I was under the impression the Detroit Red Wings, who have won 66% of their games this year, were in the league.
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true dat, my bad - meant "conference". thanks for catching that - corrected.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
does that mean the caps are more than 2 points out of the last playoff spot
does indeed! go ovie go!!! how much is he being paid this year?
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to be honest, i am kind of pulling for the caps to get in the playoffs. not just because that means they might play the pens (and i could go), but i think it would be great for the league
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by slappy:
Kinda hard to call them 'the' top team.
They have played one more game than the Habs.
But hey, I know the Pen's bandwagon doesn't stop for these simple concepts.
the pens have played one more game - yet they have two more wins. so the habs can't cover the pen's lead with one game. pens still #1.
pens also have the best record of the conference(57.7% wins vs. 55.8%).
so. fucking. pathetic. [/b]
That's all fine and dandy but the NHL standings are based on points.
That's why when you go to look at the standing at NHL.com (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=StandingsPage&type=CON)
they highlight the points section.
The Habs win their next game that gives them 98 pts. 98pts is MORE than 97pts.
so. fucking. pen-tarded.
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right. the pens have the most points, so they are in first, at the top of the eastern conference. your link has the pens in first
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
does that mean the caps are more than 2 points out of the last playoff spot
does indeed! go ovie go!!! how much is he being paid this year? [/b]
Currently 31.8% chance of making it.
If Devils, Thrash, and Habs win tonight jumps to 42%
Ovie's cap hit is 3.8 million this year. Worth every penny.
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looks like you should root for the pens! two games left against the flyers :p
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
right. the pens have the most points, so they are in first, at the top of the eastern conference. your link has the pens in first
Read my 11:10am post above maybe after a couple hours it will sink in.
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i understand the habs have a game in hand. i also understand that a game in hand doesnt mean anything unless you get points from it. i understand that the nhl standings are based on points, and not points per game, or whatever you are arguing. i also understand the pens have the most points, and therefore are currently, as of this poast, at the top of the eastern conference :D
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i understand the habs have a game in hand. i also understand that a game in hand doesnt mean anything unless you get points from it. i understand that the nhl standings are based on points, and not points per game, or whatever you are arguing. i also understand the pens have the most points, and therefore are currently, as of this poast, at the top of the eastern conference :D
NEWSFLASH!!! It doesn't mean shit unless you win the Stanley Cup, and that my friends is going to be a western conference team. (unfortunatley) So to all you pentards, enjoy your meaningless points lead with a game in hand.
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
pens also have the best record of the league (57.7% wins vs. 55.8%).
Really? I was under the impression the Detroit Red Wings, who have won 66% of their games this year, were in the league. [/b]
the red wings are in a league of their own.
unfortunately.
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Originally posted by le sonick:
the red wings are in a league of their own.
unfortunately.
San Jose and Anaheim would probably beg to differ.
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i understand the habs have a game in hand. i also understand that a game in hand doesnt mean anything unless you get points from it. i understand that the nhl standings are based on points, and not points per game, or whatever you are arguing. i also understand the pens have the most points, and therefore are currently, as of this poast, at the top of the eastern conference :D
Congrats.
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Being a Bruins fan, i am also rooting for Pittsburgh and against Washington.
I had originally hoped the Caps could pull out the Southeast and get the B's in the firrst found 3 vs. 6 matchup, but neither look to hold up that bargain.
The Bruins look to be 8th and i would MUCH rather play Pittsburgh than Montreal. much much much.
Also, i got to make several nasty phone calls back home last night after the Bruins eliminated the Leafs from the playoff race. and to think there was talk of moving the Pens to Ontario not too long ago...
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i understand the habs have a game in hand. i also understand that a game in hand doesnt mean anything unless you get points from it. i understand that the nhl standings are based on points, and not points per game, or whatever you are arguing. i also understand the pens have the most points, and therefore are currently, as of this poast, at the top of the eastern conference :D
NEWSFLASH!!! It doesn't mean shit unless you win the Stanley Cup, and that my friends is going to be a western conference team. (unfortunatley) So to all you pentards, enjoy your meaningless points lead with a game in hand. [/b]
i agree, the caps entire existence has been meaningless ;)
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i agree, the caps entire existence has been meaningless ;)
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Coming this Spring to a venue near you...
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Coming this Spring to a venue near you...
You gotta do better than raid a Sabre's blog for images until then you've got a soundtrack. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DONbY9wd6vU)
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Congrats to Ovie for be given the NHL 1st Star of the Week. 2nd time in 3 weeks (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid=357914&page=NewsPage&service=page)
Even the normally Caps-dismissive Bucci (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=buccigross_john&id=3310486) predicts Ovie will win the Hart. And Boudreau a second for the Adams.
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
Originally posted by le sonick:
the red wings are in a league of their own.
unfortunately.
San Jose and Anaheim would probably beg to differ. [/b]
No comment.
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Got 2 center ice tickets 3 rows from the ice behind the penalty box for game 2 of the penguins first round.....yes sir...
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Originally posted by nike4o1:
Got 2 center ice tickets 3 rows from the ice behind the penalty box for game 2 of the penguins first round.....yes sir...
Yeah, they're giving them away at the local gas station down here too....
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Coming this Spring to a venue near you...
<img src="http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj25/gosabres95/choke-2.jpg" alt=" - " />
I'll give you that one, no argument from me there...
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Originally posted by nike4o1:
Got 2 center ice tickets 3 rows from the ice behind the penalty box for game 2 of the penguins first round.....yes sir...
Yeah, they're giving them away at the local gas station down here too.... [/b]
You are referring to caps tix? they are giving those away for free???haha...50+ sell outs and counting in the burgh...
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If you followed the NHL you'd know the Sens are the real choking hazard.
Started the season with the best NHL record ever. Now it's actually possible for them not to make the playoffs and the Caps taking the 8th spot.
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Originally posted by slappy:
If you followed the NHL you'd know the Sens are the real choking hazard.
Started the season with the best NHL record ever. Now it's actually possible for them not to make the playoffs and the Caps taking the 8th spot.
Why stop there? It's "possible" for the Caps to finish 3rd in the Conference.
But - it's just as likely they don't even make the playoffs.
So...
Which would you prefer:
The Caps to not make the playoffs, or
The Caps getting eliminated again by the hated Penguins?
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I have a weird feeling that if the Caps make the playoffs, its as the SE Division champs and the #3 seed. I think on pure points alone the SE Champs (Carolina OR Washington) would be in 8th place.
I'm all for automatic bid into the playoffs, but a terrible division champ shouldn't leap to #3. Take the West: Detroit, San Jose, and Anaheim should be the top three seeds. If the seeds hold, #1 Detroit would have to play Anaheim in the second round while #2 SJ would get the #3 seed who will be ALOT worse then Anaheim, both in the standings and in actual ability -- not really fair. Perhaps the fair compromise is the basketball system where the 3 division champs are assured no lower then the 4th seed but if a non-division champ has a better record then a division champ, they're ahead of them for the #2 or #3.
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I would be happy if they make the playoffs, no matter how they get there or whom they would have to face if they do make it in.
Who to say the hated Penguins would eliminate them again?
The Penguins are expected to win and the Caps would not be, so I think that give the Caps the edge.
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i'm totally hoping the caps play the pens, so i can go to at least one game
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I would hate a Pens/Caps series for two reasons. (1) Because the level of "discourse" in this thread would hit ridiculous lows, and (2) because a SidTheKid/AO playoff series would have EVERY game televised by Vs and I wouldn't get to see any of Wings vs. whoever-in-the-first-round in HD.
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Originally posted by set1914:
I would be happy if they make the playoffs, no matter how they get there or whom they would have to face if they do make it in.
Who to say the hated Penguins would eliminate them again?
The Penguins are expected to win and the Caps would not be, so I think that give the Caps the edge.
My sentiments exactly.
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IF the playoffs started tomorrow - it would be
Pens v. Caps!
Great, great stuff. Hope this happens.
Congrats to the Caps & A.O. for an excellent run...
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i really hope the caps make it too. not sure i want the pens playing them, but selfishly i am blinded by live playoff hockey
caps fans cant be too positive, with the flyers having a game in hand and all
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i really hope the caps make it too. not sure i want the pens playing them, but selfishly i am blinded by live playoff hockey
caps fans cant be too positive, with the flyers having a game in hand and all
the Caps are red hot. could this be the year the Caps exorcise those Pitt demons?
A Pens v. Caps series would be incredible. Even with the Sid/Alex matchup it probably doesn't sound sexy to many. BUT the best games I've seen over the last few years have been Penguins/Caps: total flow. Up & down. No timeouts. No trapping. Olympic-esque
Let it be done.
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A win gets #3 no?
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Originally posted by Shemp:
A win gets #3 no?
a point gets the division and #3. all they have to do is not lose in regulation.
i've been at the last three home games, and i'll be there tomorrow night. the energy at the verizon center this week has been incredible. for a town of usually casual fans, the "red out" has been pretty intense.
i've never seen the caps play the way they are playing now, and i've been going to games since the rod langway era. there were a couple of times many years back when they looked good, but nothing like this. they are really coming together as a team. if they keep it up, i can see them making a decent run in the playoffs.
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I've not chanted this for a few years now...and admittedly it's kind of lame, but
LETS GO CAPS!!!! LETS GO CAPS!!!! LETS GO CAPS!!!
:D
I swear to God if my new local team, who I have no interest in by the way...still an avid Caps fan, play spoiler tonight I'll set fire to every eff'n Panthers jersey I see, and you'd be surprised how many there are, they really are quite well supported, they just don't actually go to the games because the stadium is in the middle of nowhere.
Hey Josh, remember back in the Langway era the retard with the trumpet? Oh, those were the days beating the shit out of pens and flyers fans in the eagle parking lot of the old cap centre, then off to Langways bar for a beer and hocky whore!!!! Is Langways still open?
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i am rooting for the caps to win so that they may play Boston in the first round, and i can go see some good playoff hockey games....
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If the caps get a point, the flyers win, and boston loses, the flyers and caps will play the first round. Count me in on that one!
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
Hey Josh, remember back in the Langway era the retard with the trumpet? Oh, those were the days beating the shit out of pens and flyers fans in the eagle parking lot of the old cap centre, then off to Langways bar for a beer and hocky whore!!!! Is Langways still open?
there's a new trumpet guy. and a cowbell guy. and a "let's go caps" guy. i have had the pleasure of sitting way too close to all of them.
as far as i know, langway's is still open. i haven't been there in ages, though.
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So... When will these PLAY OFF tickets go on sale???
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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On sale now.
I juist got section 113 row G for 1st game.
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Says currently not on sale but it gave me two tickets...
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1500407385F15685?artistid=806039&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=9 (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1500407385F15685?artistid=806039&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=9)
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wow. i've only ever been in the 400 sections. they like me. more money for beer.
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Tuesday, Dec 30th?
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BTW I bought these tickets in hopes that the Flyers win tomorow and get to play the caps. If not I will still go unless someone wants a good pair of lowers at face! :) Hopefully the flyers will meet the caps at some point in the playoffs. A little friendly banter amongst us will be good!
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Is this like the Khyber vs. the 930 Club? No contest...
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Where are all the Pen-tards?
I wanna see more Malkin for the Hart nonsense.
Where's the choking and failure crap?
Eat it Pen-tards!!!
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To all the tools below...
Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
2007-08 Hart Trophy = Evgeni Malkin.
Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
Yeah, Ovie is sooooooo far ahead in points. I don't know how anyone could catch him. Puh-leeze....
A. Ovechkin = 90 points
E. Malkin = 89 points
Originally posted by i'm her slave:
Name three Caps players other than Ovechkin that are WORTH mentioning.
Obviously the Calder is a weak indicator of future talent: Show us the head-to-head record of all games Sid versus Ovie - Individual stats & team win/losses.
Unless of course those NHL stats aren't to be trusted either :p
Originally posted by Tom Cashel:
Yes, folding like a paper bag. Who gives a fuck about the first two months of the season? What award do the the Washington Ovechkins get for that? Spot 'em a couple points in their April golf tournament?
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good for the caps, good for the league. good luck with the philthy :D
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Game On!
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Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:
(2) because a SidTheKid/AO playoff series would have EVERY game televised by Vs and I wouldn't get to see any of Wings vs. whoever-in-the-first-round in HD.
No need to worry about that....
Thurs, April 10, 2008 7:00 PM Nashville at Detroit VERSUS
Sat., April 12, 2008 2:00 PM Nashville at Detroit NBC
Mon., April 14, 2008 TBD Detroit at Nashville VERSUS
Wed, April 16, 2008 TBD Detroit at Nashville VERSUS (JIP)
Fri., April 18, 2008 7:30 PM Nashville at Detroit VERSUS
Sun., April 20, 2008 3:00 PM Detroit at Nashville NBC
Really? The Nashville series?
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Originally posted by slappy:
To all the tools below...
There's a fine line between humility and being humiliated.
Then again, there are those who find satisfaction in simply making the playoffs.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by slappy:
To all the tools below...
There's a fine line between humility and being humiliated.
Then again, there are those who find satisfaction in simply making the playoffs. [/b]
as a bruins fan, i find satisfation in simply making the playoffs. and i dont see anything wrong with that.
course, i am not being a dick about it.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
There's a fine line between humility and being humiliated.
There's also a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot.
Let's Go Caps!
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
as a bruins fan, i find satisfation in simply making the playoffs.
Hey congrats! I didn't realize there were any Bruins fans left (I thought they had all jumped ship) - it's been a long time coming.
Unfortunately, they won't be getting much airtime, so yes, Bruins fans should absolutely enjoy making the playoffs, but sad they won't get to see much of it without a special TV package.
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
as a bruins fan, i find satisfation in simply making the playoffs. and i dont see anything wrong with that.
course, i am not being a dick about it.
I'm the same way about the Caps.
I've also believed all along the Caps don't deserve the complete crap the idiots were posting. The tools should be called out on it.
Sorry if it hurts the tender sensibilities of other fans to see someone defend their home team.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
as a bruins fan, i find satisfation in simply making the playoffs.
Hey congrats! I didn't realize there were any Bruins fans left (I thought they had all jumped ship) - it's been a long time coming.
Unfortunately, they won't be getting much airtime, so yes, Bruins fans should absolutely enjoy making the playoffs, but sad they won't get to see much of it without a special TV package. [/b]
there's only gonna be 4 games to watch! i think Saturday's on Vs. (i have center ice so hope to be able to watch us lose all 4).
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
as a bruins fan, i find satisfation in simply making the playoffs. and i dont see anything wrong with that.
course, i am not being a dick about it.
I'm the same way about the Caps.
I've also believed all along the Caps don't deserve the complete crap the idiots were posting. The tools should be called out on it.
Sorry if it hurts the tender sensibilities of other fans to see someone defend their home team. [/b]
i had season tickets to the caps for 4 years and didnt renew this year. so you're welcome for lifting the hex!!!
but dont forget, if not for being the in weakest division in hockey, you would've been 7th spot on a tiebreaker. this may be a 3/6 matchup but Philly has a better record....
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Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
as a bruins fan, i find satisfation in simply making the playoffs. and i dont see anything wrong with that.
course, i am not being a dick about it.
I'm the same way about the Caps.
I've also believed all along the Caps don't deserve the complete crap the idiots were posting. The tools should be called out on it.
Sorry if it hurts the tender sensibilities of other fans to see someone defend their home team. [/b]
Nothing wrong with defending your team. I have been a Flyers fan since the 70s when their AHL affiliate was here in town. Some damn fine NHL talent came through here. Bottom line is that this sport kicks ass. None other like it at all. This will be one tough series and I am damn happy that the seedings fell the way they did. However it works out we are going to get to see some stanley cup playoff hockey and nothing beats that!
The Caps had an amazing year. Both teams had great runs at the end of the regular season. Caps run was longer but the Flyers was against tougher opponents. So they are both hot right now. As I recall they spilt the regular season games and all else points to a tough series.
The weakness for the Caps if you can even call it that) is that they have most of their eggs in one basket. The series will probably come down to whether the Flyers can shut down Ovie or not. If the Oranage and Black shut down #8 and noe one else in the Red jerseys steps in to fill the void, Washington will be in trouble. However if the Caps can keep Ovie in the game then the Flyers may well be hurting.
Is it Friday yet?
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looks like vs will only have games 1 and 5 (if needed) for the pens series. bummer
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
as a bruins fan, i find satisfation in simply making the playoffs.
Hey congrats! I didn't realize there were any Bruins fans left (I thought they had all jumped ship) - it's been a long time coming.
Unfortunately, they won't be getting much airtime, so yes, Bruins fans should absolutely enjoy making the playoffs, but sad they won't get to see much of it without a special TV package. [/b]
there's only gonna be 4 games to watch! i think Saturday's on Vs. (i have center ice so hope to be able to watch us lose all 4). [/b]
Hey - thats better then the rangers/devils series. I think theres only 3 to watch on VS. but luckily they televise them on the local MSG channel. And Ill be able to catch most the games. Since my Kings were nowhere in the picture - I guess Ill be cheering on my hometown team. Would rather see them advance then the devils! Should be quite a series (lundquist v brodeur.... sweet!) :)
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Originally posted by RatBastard:
Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
as a bruins fan, i find satisfation in simply making the playoffs. and i dont see anything wrong with that.
course, i am not being a dick about it.
I'm the same way about the Caps.
I've also believed all along the Caps don't deserve the complete crap the idiots were posting. The tools should be called out on it.
Sorry if it hurts the tender sensibilities of other fans to see someone defend their home team. [/b]
Nothing wrong with defending your team. I have been a Flyers fan since the 70s when their AHL affiliate was here in town. Some damn fine NHL talent came through here. Bottom line is that this sport kicks ass. None other like it at all. This will be one tough series and I am damn happy that the seedings fell the way they did. However it works out we are going to get to see some stanley cup playoff hockey and nothing beats that!
The Caps had an amazing year. Both teams had great runs at the end of the regular season. Caps run was longer but the Flyers was against tougher opponents. So they are both hot right now. As I recall they spilt the regular season games and all else points to a tough series.
The weakness for the Caps if you can even call it that) is that they have most of their eggs in one basket. The series will probably come down to whether the Flyers can shut down Ovie or not. If the Oranage and Black shut down #8 and noe one else in the Red jerseys steps in to fill the void, Washington will be in trouble. However if the Caps can keep Ovie in the game then the Flyers may well be hurting.
Is it Friday yet? [/b]
Nice post.
I've said it before, I've grown to really respect Flyer fans.
The majority really know hockey and don't run around acting like complete idiots. (Hope it doesn't change after the series.)
They deserve as much hype/accolades as the Caps for their comeback from last year.
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Dale Hunter gone.. unclear if fired or steps down or what...
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stepped down
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stepped down
being reported that way now.. the first time i saw it on yahoo it said "Dale Hunter fired"
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stepped down
being reported that way now.. the first time i saw it on yahoo it said "Dale Hunter fired"
He was definitely not fired.
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Yahoo still lists "Dale Hunter fired" in whats trending... coming in at number four for those keeping tabs!
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Yahoo still lists "Dale Hunter fired" in whats trending... coming in at number four for those keeping tabs!
They were wrong.
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Yahoo still lists "Dale Hunter fired" in whats trending... coming in at number four for those keeping tabs!
They were wrong.
I take it you're not one of those who believes Dale Hunter resigned because he was going to be fired?
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I heard on the radio this morning something about "Trying to figure out what Ovechkin's comments meant" when he was clearing out his locker? I can't find anything though.
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He should be fired. The games he coached were basically unwatchable. Game 7 of the Rangers series was the most boring game I have ever seen in playoff hockey. And it appears the coaching strategy was to lose by one goal.
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Yahoo still lists "Dale Hunter fired" in whats trending... coming in at number four for those keeping tabs!
They were wrong.
I take it you're not one of those who believes Dale Hunter resigned because he was going to be fired?
Not a chance. Everyone wanted him to come back, with the exception of #8.
I don't think he ever had plans to stay long term. The guy owns a junior team in Ontario with his brother and coached it before leaving, by all accounts is a god in his town there, has millions in the bank and wants to be with his family.
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He should be fired. The games he coached were basically unwatchable.
This is the stupidest thing I have possibly ever heard. Hunter got this team to buy in to a team first defensive philosophy...something nobody EVER thought they could do.
I did not see game 7, but did see the 13 that preceded it. f you thought those playoff games were boring and unwatchable then maybe you should flip the channel and tune in to the NBA or something. You obviously don't like hockey.
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He wasn't fired. It was pretty clear even if he went to the SCF, he was probably going back to Ontario.
- From the start he only wanted a contract for this year.
- He only had one suit.
- He never rented a car. The assistants picked him up.
- (As posted before) He owns a hugely successful minor league team in his hometown.
- He likes farming and owns a farm.
His heart is at home.
The Post has an article on Ovi's comment. It seems to be a combo of vague and English being his second language.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capitals-insider/post/alex-ovechkin-sometimes-you-dont-have-to-be-jealous/2012/05/14/gIQAUSXyPU_blog.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capitals-insider/post/alex-ovechkin-sometimes-you-dont-have-to-be-jealous/2012/05/14/gIQAUSXyPU_blog.html)
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He should be fired. The games he coached were basically unwatchable.
This is the stupidest thing I have possibly ever heard. Hunter got this team to buy in to a team first defensive philosophy...something nobody EVER thought they could do.
I did not see game 7, but did see the 13 that preceded it. f you thought those playoff games were boring and unwatchable then maybe you should flip the channel and tune in to the NBA or something. You obviously don't like hockey.
The trap is boring. Hunter's philosphy was to lose by one goal. No I didn't watch too many of the preceeding 13 games. I have been a caps fans since the 80's but this year I couldn't watch the games. All hunter knows is the trap. The trap is awful for hockey. No one wants to watch that crap. TKeep playing that and the crowds will be like they were before bruce got the job. And hunter had a worse record than bruce this year. And the caps lost in the secon round just like last year.
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Trap is boring as shit, but Caps 2-2-1 Trap > Standard 1-3-1 Trap employed by the Lightning last year that did us in. THAT's bullshit hockey to me. Caps just showed that they can be undiscplined as we've come to see and game 7 was a fucking disaster, even if they had won they didnt' deserve to win. They got outplayed right from the get go, the passing was shitty, the shots were shitty. It was an awful way to end a turmultuous season, or maybe it was fitting... Either way, totally sucked, so sad. 2nd time they've lost on my birthday :(
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The defensive strategy isn't a trap. It goes back to the 70's with the Leafs.
Excellent article on the 'Neilson defense' that has fans falling asleep.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/globe-on-hockey/scotty-bowman-traces-current-style-of-playoff-hockey-back-to-roger-neilson/article2433273/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/globe-on-hockey/scotty-bowman-traces-current-style-of-playoff-hockey-back-to-roger-neilson/article2433273/)
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I think the most obvious first thing the NHL could do to improve the game would be to give a 2 minute penalty for a defenseman or forward who falls to the ice to block a shot. No reason that should be legal.
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I think the most obvious first thing the NHL could do to improve the game would be to give a 2 minute penalty for a defenseman or forward who falls to the ice to block a shot. No reason that should be legal.
Good god, this is the most moronic thing I've ever heard. Even more so than your comments the other day.
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I think the most obvious first thing the NHL could do to improve the game would be to give a 2 minute penalty for a defenseman or forward who falls to the ice to block a shot. No reason that should be legal.
Good god, this is the most moronic thing I've ever heard. Even more so than your comments the other day.
Yeah, the refs don't need more reasons to influence the outcome of the game.
There's already a lot of lame ways to get a penalty.
Like players getting a dive call while the opposing player gets tripping.
Joking or not. Broudeur had an interesting idea to counteract it. ?We might be able to hurt a few guys [by] hitting one-timers in the foot and their head or something.?
While aiming for the head is beyond not wise, an increase in injuries from taking pucks to appendages would decrease the practice.
Plus players are getting better at going around the bodies to get off a pass or shot.
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I think the most obvious first thing the NHL could do to improve the game would be to give a 2 minute penalty for a defenseman or forward who falls to the ice to block a shot. No reason that should be legal.
lol
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I think the most obvious first thing the NHL could do to improve the game would be to give a 2 minute penalty for a defenseman or forward who falls to the ice to block a shot. No reason that should be legal.
Good god, this is the most moronic thing I've ever heard. Even more so than your comments the other day.
How is that moronic? It should be delay of game penalty. It serves no purpose to the game. And players get injured doing it. You are obviouly for not improving the game. Hockey is way more boring than baseball now.
Only other solution I see is 4 on 4 all the time.
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I think the most obvious first thing the NHL could do to improve the game would be to give a 2 minute penalty for a defenseman or forward who falls to the ice to block a shot. No reason that should be legal.
Good god, this is the most moronic thing I've ever heard. Even more so than your comments the other day.
Yeah, the refs don't need more reasons to influence the outcome of the game.
There's already a lot of lame ways to get a penalty.
Like players getting a dive call while the opposing player gets tripping.
Joking or not. Broudeur had an interesting idea to counteract it. ?We might be able to hurt a few guys [by] hitting one-timers in the foot and their head or something.?
While aiming for the head is beyond not wise, an increase in injuries from taking pucks to appendages would decrease the practice.
Plus players are getting better at going around the bodies to get off a pass or shot.
The refs woudn't influence the game more. If you got a 2 minute delay of game penalty for falling to the ice to block a shot players would'nt do it anymore. There is a penalty of shooting a puck out of play from the defensive zone that occurs a lot more than this penalty would be called.
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I think the most obvious first thing the NHL could do to improve the game would be to give a 2 minute penalty for a defenseman or forward who falls to the ice to block a shot. No reason that should be legal.
Good god, this is the most moronic thing I've ever heard. Even more so than your comments the other day.
How is that moronic? It should be delay of game penalty. It serves no purpose to the game. And players get injured doing it. You are obviouly for not improving the game. Hockey is way more boring than baseball now.
Only other solution I see is 4 on 4 all the time.
It is moronic because it is. Just plain and simple. It's as moronic as outlawing shot blocking in basketball or pass defense in football.
I like shot blocking. It takes guts, I appreciate it. I like seeing athletes put themselves and their bodies on the line like that.
I don't have a problem with low scoring hockey.
If it's not enough scoring for you, switch to basketball, or lacrosse.
Or at least stop making asinine suggestions as to how the NHL could make the game more to your liking.
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I think the most obvious first thing the NHL could do to improve the game would be to give a 2 minute penalty for a defenseman or forward who falls to the ice to block a shot. No reason that should be legal.
Good god, this is the most moronic thing I've ever heard. Even more so than your comments the other day.
How is that moronic? It should be delay of game penalty. It serves no purpose to the game. And players get injured doing it. You are obviouly for not improving the game. Hockey is way more boring than baseball now.
Only other solution I see is 4 on 4 all the time.
It is moronic because it is. Just plain and simple. It's as moronic as outlawing shot blocking in basketball or pass defense in football.
I like shot blocking. It takes guts, I appreciate it. I like seeing athletes put themselves and their bodies on the line like that.
I don't have a problem with low scoring hockey.
If it's not enough scoring for you, switch to basketball, or lacrosse.
Or at least stop making asinine suggestions as to how the NHL could make the game more to your liking.
damn Chaz.. you a bit cranky lately...
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I think the most obvious first thing the NHL could do to improve the game would be to give a 2 minute penalty for a defenseman or forward who falls to the ice to block a shot. No reason that should be legal.
Good god, this is the most moronic thing I've ever heard. Even more so than your comments the other day.
How is that moronic? It should be delay of game penalty. It serves no purpose to the game. And players get injured doing it. You are obviouly for not improving the game. Hockey is way more boring than baseball now.
Only other solution I see is 4 on 4 all the time.
It is moronic because it is. Just plain and simple. It's as moronic as outlawing shot blocking in basketball or pass defense in football.
I like shot blocking. It takes guts, I appreciate it. I like seeing athletes put themselves and their bodies on the line like that.
I don't have a problem with low scoring hockey.
If it's not enough scoring for you, switch to basketball, or lacrosse.
Or at least stop making asinine suggestions as to how the NHL could make the game more to your liking.
damn Chaz.. you a bit cranky lately...
If that makes him cranky then 99% of NHL fans are crankier than a first day of the Tour De France.
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I think the most obvious first thing the NHL could do to improve the game would be to give a 2 minute penalty for a defenseman or forward who falls to the ice to block a shot. No reason that should be legal.
Good god, this is the most moronic thing I've ever heard. Even more so than your comments the other day.
How is that moronic? It should be delay of game penalty. It serves no purpose to the game. And players get injured doing it. You are obviouly for not improving the game. Hockey is way more boring than baseball now.
Only other solution I see is 4 on 4 all the time.
It is moronic because it is. Just plain and simple. It's as moronic as outlawing shot blocking in basketball or pass defense in football.
I like shot blocking. It takes guts, I appreciate it. I like seeing athletes put themselves and their bodies on the line like that.
I don't have a problem with low scoring hockey.
If it's not enough scoring for you, switch to basketball, or lacrosse.
Or at least stop making asinine suggestions as to how the NHL could make the game more to your liking.
It is for Hockey Fans in general. Most fans dont' appreciate slow paced hockey. The reason the capitals started selling out and having actual fans (as opposed to fans of the opposing team showing up) is because of fast paced exciting hockey. While it might be nice for some who like boring hockey like you to be able to go to the game and pick up 2nd row seats at the box office right before the game.
And they do have rules in basketball with regards to blocking shots. Goaltending is not allowed. The guys can stand up and block shots. Falling to the ice is for goalies. If you aren't a goalie you shouldn't be doing it. My opinion and at least I am not a bitter person like you.
Hunter wasn't a very good captain. I dont' know anyone would think he would be a good coach. You can't get away with the dirty play now that he did in his career so it is not like he could teach the players anything.
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[ My opinion and at least I am not a bitter person like you.
Wait wait wait a sec...you're the one complaining, I'm saying get over it...so how does this make me bitter?
But yes, your opinion.
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Hunter wasn't a very good captain. I dont' know anyone would think he would be a good coach. You can't get away with the dirty play now that he did in his career so it is not like he could teach the players anything.
The more you type, the dumber you appear.
Matt Leyden Trophy
OHL Coach of the Year
2003?04 - Dale Hunter
2004?05 - Dale Hunter
2009?10 - Dale Hunter
Brian Kilrea CHL Coach of the Year Award
2003?04 - Dale Hunter
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Hunter wasn't a very good captain. I dont' know anyone would think he would be a good coach. You can't get away with the dirty play now that he did in his career so it is not like he could teach the players anything.
The more you type, the dumber you appear.
Matt Leyden Trophy
OHL Coach of the Year
2003?04 - Dale Hunter
2004?05 - Dale Hunter
2009?10 - Dale Hunter
Brian Kilrea CHL Coach of the Year Award
2003?04 - Dale Hunter
Yeah I am sure all great coaches stay in the OHL for 11 years.
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[ My opinion and at least I am not a bitter person like you.
Wait wait wait a sec...you're the one complaining, I'm saying get over it...so how does this make me bitter?
But yes, your opinion.
I think calling someone a moron just because they are suggesting to improve a game that has gotten incredibly boring the past few years pretty much proves you are bitter.
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[ My opinion and at least I am not a bitter person like you.
Wait wait wait a sec...you're the one complaining, I'm saying get over it...so how does this make me bitter?
But yes, your opinion.
I think calling someone a moron just because they are suggesting to improve a game that has gotten incredibly boring the past few years pretty much proves you are bitter.
Well, I think that suggesting that one of the primary defensive plays in a sport be outlawed proves that you are a moron.
Moron.
MORON!!!!
Take that hyyyaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! (karate chop)
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[ My opinion and at least I am not a bitter person like you.
Wait wait wait a sec...you're the one complaining, I'm saying get over it...so how does this make me bitter?
But yes, your opinion.
I think calling someone a moron just because they are suggesting to improve a game that has gotten incredibly boring the past few years pretty much proves you are bitter.
The 'I am rubber, you are glue' defense is for morons.
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[ My opinion and at least I am not a bitter person like you.
Wait wait wait a sec...you're the one complaining, I'm saying get over it...so how does this make me bitter?
But yes, your opinion.
I think calling someone a moron just because they are suggesting to improve a game that has gotten incredibly boring the past few years pretty much proves you are bitter.
Well, I think that suggesting that one of the primary defensive plays in a sport be outlawed proves that you are a moron.
Moron.
MORON!!!!
Take that hyyyaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! (karate chop)
WWell at one time forward passes weren't allowed in hockey. I guess if you are so against rules being changed we could go back to that. Are you one of those ultra religious people who are against any change for the better? Anyway calling someone on a moron a message board is childish. You wouldn't do it in real life. I
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[ My opinion and at least I am not a bitter person like you.
Wait wait wait a sec...you're the one complaining, I'm saying get over it...so how does this make me bitter?
But yes, your opinion.
I think calling someone a moron just because they are suggesting to improve a game that has gotten incredibly boring the past few years pretty much proves you are bitter.
The 'I am rubber, you are glue' defense is for morons.
So you are saying you usse that defense all the time?
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sometimes you have to change the rules..
I think soccer should do something about the offside rule.. all too often players are on side, score, and the goal is invalidated because the lineman makes the wrong call....its hard enough to score as it is..
look at American Football..unless I'm wrong at the beginning teams scored primarily with their feet and the forward pass wasn't even used...
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ive heard the "keep the players on their skates" argument a few places, so i don't really think atomicfront is out on an island here
just really surprised so many caps fans were so bummed to see hunter go. his record was pretty mediocre and publicly humiliated their best player
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There seems to be some misconceptions going on for the reasons to be called a moron.
- Nobody said rule changes wouldn't help or are verboten. They just said penalizing players for blocking shots is moronic.
- When one proclaims someone isn't a good coach that factually happens to be a 4 time coach of the year and hall of fame player, they are ignorant. When presented these facts and they keep their position, they are a moron. (Yes, great coaches don't always find satisfaction working in major sports leagues. See John Wooden.)
I'll take going to an international size rink opening up play before giving refs more room for influencing the game. We already see too many offensive players unjustly getting goalie interference after being pushed into the goalie and nullifying goals. Adding situations where players that get pushed/checked to the ice and happen to block a shot as potential penalties is ... well ... moronic.
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I'm done caring. Coach Hunter is gone and they will not outlaw shot blocking.
The whole world is a moron.
And yes, for the record I am an ultra religious 8 year old child that is resistant to change in all it's forms, regardless of venue or context.
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just really surprised so many caps fans were so bummed to see hunter go. his record was pretty mediocre and publicly humiliated their best player
His record was mediocre? He single-handedly (and with Holtby) turned around a sinking ship about to miss the playoffs and took the top seeded team to game 7 in the second round. Any thank GOD he "publicly humiliated" his best player. Why do you refuse to admit Alex is the problem? Alex got his way this season: he got Bruce fired. If you're not going to commit to playing defense on a playoff-caliber level (i.e. actually trying, blocking a few shots and not skating around in the defensive zone with your head up your ass), you don't deserve to play, PERIOD. Alex refuses to play defense and you MUST play defense to win in the playoffs.
Fuck Alex and fuck Ted for coddling him. Fuck you, too.
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Fuck Alex and fuck Ted for coddling him. Fuck you, too.
A lot of fucking going on...
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sorry for calling a 37 wins out of 74 games coached record mediocre
im not a caps fan by any means, but id say lack of a #2 center, mike greens embarassing mistakes and semin's inconsistency were bigger issues than ovie's inability to play defense. well, at least before this season. this season was a mess
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sorry for calling a 37 wins out of 74 games coached record mediocre
The sarcastic sorry doesn't really work for his 'mediocre' record when you include the factors of coming in and changing the system of a team with lengthy term injuries to key players during the season. He got them to game 7 of the 2nd round after beating the SC champs, I'd take that mediocrity and offer it at least a whole season to coach. (Hell, Anaheim gave a 2 year contract to lesser success.)
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Fuck Alex and fuck Ted for coddling him. Fuck you, too.
Sheesh if I'm bitter then this guy is a fucking coronary.
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There seems to be some misconceptions going on for the reasons to be called a moron.
- When one proclaims someone isn't a good coach that factually happens to be a 4 time coach of the year and hall of fame player, they are ignorant. When presented these facts and they keep their position, they are a moron. (Yes, great coaches don't always find satisfaction working in major sports leagues. See John Wooden.)
Hunter is not a hall of fame player. I don't know where that came from. And he coached kids. We are not even talking AHL here. Coach of the year of one three major junior leagues in canada? And the team had a better record under Bruce this year than they did under hunter. Hunter was a .500 coach in both the regular season and playoffs. Bruce was forced by mcphee to play the trap last year. I am sure if he hadn't the team would have performed better under him this year.
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just really surprised so many caps fans were so bummed to see hunter go. his record was pretty mediocre and publicly humiliated their best player
His record was mediocre? He single-handedly (and with Holtby) turned around a sinking ship about to miss the playoffs and took the top seeded team to game 7 in the second round. Any thank GOD he "publicly humiliated" his best player. Why do you refuse to admit Alex is the problem? Alex got his way this season: he got Bruce fired. If you're not going to commit to playing defense on a playoff-caliber level (i.e. actually trying, blocking a few shots and not skating around in the defensive zone with your head up your ass), you don't deserve to play, PERIOD. Alex refuses to play defense and you MUST play defense to win in the playoffs.
Fuck Alex and fuck Ted for coddling him. Fuck you, too.
Alex Ovechkin isn't the problem... The problem is the team has failed to find a balance between defense and offense. Their offense was shut down when they were a juggernaut, and when they turned to all defense they BARELY had offense. Are you going to get mad when Jeff Schultz doesn't perform in the offensive zone? Ovechkin is a fucking winger and a powerhouse at that position. While I disagreedw ith only playing him for 13 minutes in a fucking playoff game, it lit a fire under his ass and he WAS diving in front of pucks towards the end of the run there and was being more defensively responsible. What about Brooks Laich? What about Marcus Johansson? He led the team in goals in the playoffs AND the regular season and HE is the problem? They just need to fnid a balance, they aren't going to make the playoffs next yaer if they're playing 1 goal games all year in teh regular season and having to block 20+ shots. They're still incredibly offensively gifted and have shown that they can get defensive grit with the same bunch.
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Ovie is their best player.. the team should take advantage of that fact and build around him.
Caveat: I know nothing about ice hockey or the caps.
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Adam Oates is the new Caps coach.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capitals-insider/post/reports-adam-oates-to-be-next-capitals-coach/2012/06/26/gJQA9VVX4V_blog.html?hpid=z3
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No idea about him, he was the assistant at NJ? I still have my Adam Oates sweater :p we'll see how he is...
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Paging thousand mud stained loves to say it's the worst move ever and what a bunch of fuckety fuckety fuck faces gmgm and leonsis are.
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Adam Oates is the new Caps coach.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capitals-insider/post/reports-adam-oates-to-be-next-capitals-coach/2012/06/26/gJQA9VVX4V_blog.html?hpid=z3
So they are hiring the ex-Captains in order. On the positive Adam Oates was a very good player and lead us to the cup. On the bad sidehe coached in Jersey where the trap was the law. Quite a difference as a player in one regard, sportmanship. Hunter was the dirtiest player in the league. Oates was a lady byng finalist many a time. Oates was great at making the players around him better. Hopefully he can do the same as a coach.
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Paging thousand mud stained loves to say it's the worst move ever and what a bunch of fuckety fuckety fuck faces gmgm and leonsis are.
Bryan and Terry Murray and Ron Wilson must have turned Ted down.
You know why Ted likes up-tempo hockey? Sells regular season tickets.
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sometimes you have to change the rules..
I think soccer should do something about the offside rule.. all too often players are on side, score, and the goal is invalidated because the lineman makes the wrong call....its hard enough to score as it is..
look at American Football..unless I'm wrong at the beginning teams scored primarily with their feet and the forward pass wasn't even used...
The offside rule in 'football' has been modified many times. Besides, there's just as many offside goals allowed as onside goals disallowed. Doesn't make it right, but it is what it is. Some University in the UK researched the officials and the offside rule and came to the conlcusion it's physically impossible to see everything the AR has to be able to see to make the call....retar'ded eh?
As for runny-catchy...well. It's not a sport, it's an entertainment event like WWF.
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Pretty obvious now Ted is in the business of coddling 8. I'll eat my words if they reach the Conf Finals next year.
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Pretty obvious now Ted is in the business of coddling 8. I'll eat my words if they reach the Conf Finals next year.
Well since they have only reached the conference finals twice im their entire history what is the point of your post? Last time they made it Oates was the guy leading the team as a player. And if you are paying a guy like Ovechkin for the next ten years or so you probably want a coach who actually uses him.
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Pretty obvious now Ted is in the business of coddling 8. I'll eat my words if they reach the Conf Finals next year.
Well since they have only reached the conference finals twice im their entire history what is the point of your post? Last time they made it Oates was the guy leading the team as a player. And if you are paying a guy like Ovechkin for the next ten years or so you probably want a coach who actually uses him.
Not speaking from a position of great knowledge of the team having been out of the loop for years, but your comment doesn't make sense to me. It's not the coaches job to select a team based on how much each player cost. Or at least it shouldn't be.
I'm disapointed they didn't give Hunter a full season to mold 'his' team.
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Pretty obvious now Ted is in the business of coddling 8. I'll eat my words if they reach the Conf Finals next year.
Well since they have only reached the conference finals twice im their entire history what is the point of your post? Last time they made it Oates was the guy leading the team as a player. And if you are paying a guy like Ovechkin for the next ten years or so you probably want a coach who actually uses him.
Not speaking from a position of great knowledge of the team having been out of the loop for years, but your comment doesn't make sense to me. It's not the coaches job to select a team based on how much each player cost. Or at least it shouldn't be.
I'm disapointed they didn't give Hunter a full season to mold 'his' team.
It was definitely Hunter who didn't want another season. George has come out and said he wanted to keep Hunter around. I'm also bummed he didn't stay though. I don't think he would have made use of the offense though.
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Pretty obvious now Ted is in the business of coddling 8. I'll eat my words if they reach the Conf Finals next year.
Well since they have only reached the conference finals twice im their entire history what is the point of your post? Last time they made it Oates was the guy leading the team as a player. And if you are paying a guy like Ovechkin for the next ten years or so you probably want a coach who actually uses him.
Not speaking from a position of great knowledge of the team having been out of the loop for years, but your comment doesn't make sense to me. It's not the coaches job to select a team based on how much each player cost. Or at least it shouldn't be.
I'm disapointed they didn't give Hunter a full season to mold 'his' team.
Of course a coach has to choose a style of play that uses the players that he has available the best. Backstrom and Ovechkin have huge contracts and are going to be with the team longer than any coach. Hunter was forcing a style of play that was fitting for him as a player not good for the players that he had.
Look at the maryland football team this year. They had offensive players that were best suited for a passing game. Yet the coach forced a running game down their throat. How did the players react. What was their record.
Backstrom and Ovechkin are going to be on the team. What do you think the reaction would be next year when Ovechkin and Backstrom start to revolt against the coach? Anyway Hunter is gone and his record was worst than Bodreau's this past season with the Caps. Last year the Caps swept the rangers. this year they lost to the rangers. And in the series it appeared to me that the strategy was to lose by one goal.
Anyway his style of hockey was unwatchable. Eventually fans will stop coming if he stayed as the coach.
a goo
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Pretty obvious now Ted is in the business of coddling 8. I'll eat my words if they reach the Conf Finals next year.
Well since they have only reached the conference finals twice im their entire history what is the point of your post? Last time they made it Oates was the guy leading the team as a player. And if you are paying a guy like Ovechkin for the next ten years or so you probably want a coach who actually uses him.
Not speaking from a position of great knowledge of the team having been out of the loop for years, but your comment doesn't make sense to me. It's not the coaches job to select a team based on how much each player cost. Or at least it shouldn't be.
I'm disapointed they didn't give Hunter a full season to mold 'his' team.
Of course a coach has to choose a style of play that uses the players that he has available the best. Backstrom and Ovechkin have huge contracts and are going to be with the team longer than any coach. Hunter was forcing a style of play that was fitting for him as a player not good for the players that he had.
Look at the maryland football team this year. They had offensive players that were best suited for a passing game. Yet the coach forced a running game down their throat. How did the players react. What was their record.
Backstrom and Ovechkin are going to be on the team. What do you think the reaction would be next year when Ovechkin and Backstrom start to revolt against the coach? Anyway Hunter is gone and his record was worst than Bodreau's this past season with the Caps. Last year the Caps swept the rangers. this year they lost to the rangers. And in the series it appeared to me that the strategy was to lose by one goal.
Anyway his style of hockey was unwatchable. Eventually fans will stop coming if he stayed as the coach.
a goo
Actually, I would rather have red hot pokers jammed into my eye sockets.....
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They didn't sweep the Rangers, they won 4-1. Regardless, we've had the Rangers number the past couple of seasons in the playoffs, I had high hopes going into that series. Even if they were the number 1 seed I was hoping the new defensive attitude we had, paired with our past experience, that we would beat the Rangers. Game 7 was insanely disappointing.
McPhee was on DC101 this morning and he was talking about more uptempo hockey, he said he didn't like the system that Hunter brought in. I agree. Then Oates was on 106.7 after that and it was nice to hear his perspective on coming in. Really excited for the season opener! only 108 more days?
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Looks like the lock out is over.
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Looks like the lock out is over.
Don't get sucked back in for the next 6-7 years so they can go on lockout again.
This agreement did nothing to fix the inherent problems of the NHL. It simply moved money around between the owners and players. There will be another lockout before 2020.
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Looks like the lock out is over.
Don't get sucked back in for the next 6-7 years so they can go on lockout again.
This agreement did nothing to fix the inherent problems of the NHL. It simply moved money around between the owners and players. There will be another lockout before 2020.
well from what i read the deal is for 10 years with an opt out after 8 years. That means that there won't be another lockout before 2020.
I am excited to see how oates has the team playing. Hopefully he can get the team going in the right direction.
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Looks like the lock out is over.
Don't get sucked back in for the next 6-7 years so they can go on lockout again.
This agreement did nothing to fix the inherent problems of the NHL. It simply moved money around between the owners and players. There will be another lockout before 2020.
well from what i read the deal is for 10 years with an opt out after 8 years. That means that there won't be another lockout before 2020.
My bad. 2021.
Feel better now?
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Looks like the lock out is over.
Don't get sucked back in for the next 6-7 years so they can go on lockout again.
This agreement did nothing to fix the inherent problems of the NHL. It simply moved money around between the owners and players. There will be another lockout before 2020.
so you are saying congress worked on this for them? :)
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Looks like the lock out is over.
Don't get sucked back in for the next 6-7 years so they can go on lockout again.
This agreement did nothing to fix the inherent problems of the NHL. It simply moved money around between the owners and players. There will be another lockout before 2020.
well from what i read the deal is for 10 years with an opt out after 8 years. That means that there won't be another lockout before 2020.
I am excited to see how oates has the team playing. Hopefully he can get the team going in the right direction.
Also very excited/curious to see how Oatsie has the team play. He's supposedly very offensive minded, so hopefully he can find that balance between the power house offense and that shut down defense that the Caps have managed to show over the past 3 years.
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Great news...Backstrom skating today and will be 100% for the opener. The NHL has me bitter. But fuck it. Love me some hockey. Getting ready to tune in.
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GO RAVENS!!!!!!!
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106.7 The Fan was at Kettler this morning. Was good to hear Eric Fehr and Brooksy doing interviews. So excited! 8 games in 13 days. OH GOD! SO MUCH HOCKEY CRAMMED DOWN OUR THROATS!
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It is nice when you have an optional practice after a second loss to start the season the captain and all assistant captains do not show up.
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Russian machine never practice
EDIT: Neuvy to start in net tomorrow against the Habs
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/capitals-watch/2013/jan/23/michal-neuvirth-start-capitals-vs-canadiens/
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It is nice when you have an optional practice after a second loss to start the season the captain and all assistant captains do not show up.
I believe they are ALTERNATE captains not ASSISTANT captains.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26282
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Anyone a little worried about the team shitting the bed? Defense playing like absolute DOG SHIT. I turned the fucking game on less than a minute in and THEY WERE ALREADY ON THE PK. Was I crazy or after the first 2 or 3 commercial breaks they were always on the PK? Who's the leader on this team?
I liked how the team responded to Matt Hendricks 3 fucking fights in the last 2 games... They seemed totally indifferent. Awesome.
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Anyone a little worried about the team shitting the bed? Defense playing like absolute DOG SHIT. I turned the fucking game on less than a minute in and THEY WERE ALREADY ON THE PK. Was I crazy or after the first 2 or 3 commercial breaks they were always on the PK? Who's the leader on this team?
I liked how the team responded to Matt Hendricks 3 fucking fights in the last 2 games... They seemed totally indifferent. Awesome.
Team seems pretty untalented. It might be time to unload Ovechkin if you can get a decent return. I watched the first game they played pretty poorly and the announcers were saying it was the first game. But Backstrom and Ovechkin were playing together in the KHL they should be in pretty decent shape and be able to work together well. When is Laich coming back. He should be the captain.
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Lol, Ovi has 8 years left on his contract, they're never going to unload him.
Dunno when Brooksy is coming back, hopefully he can light a fire.
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"Right now this team is bringing Bruce Boudreau?s defense and Dale Hunter?s offense. "
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lol o god
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Don't panic. There's plenty of time to right the ship when you're playing 48 games in 99 days.
I'm still shocked anybody would pay a dime to watch whatever is being called Hockey this season....
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If only they had gotten Kuznetsov to come to the US this season. After Kuznetsov and Filip Forsberg the farm is pretty dry. This season might be a good season to tank and get a good pick.
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Lol, they aren't going to tank this season. Sunday's game was a continuation of the good play from Friday night. Friday night Neuvy saved out ass and we couldn't pull the win out for him. We played pretty dominantly on Sunday and it would good to see that effort back from the team, just really strong on the forecheck and really smashing them in their own zone. Hopefully it's just a taste of things to come.
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Nice/depressing read into the locker room turmoil.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1512648-is-the-washington-capitals-clubhouse-culture-holding-the-team-back
I didn't like Ovi being named team captain when it happened and I still don't. I think they were 5 games without a Captain? I think they should have gone longer to see who stepped up. I think they went on a win streak after that, but it was a different team. I don't see the Caps turning this around and them turning into the Redskins just surrounded by drama and controversy that only hurts the actual sports product itself.
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Nice/depressing read into the locker room turmoil.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1512648-is-the-washington-capitals-clubhouse-culture-holding-the-team-back
I didn't like Ovi being named team captain when it happened and I still don't. I think they were 5 games without a Captain? I think they should have gone longer to see who stepped up. I think they went on a win streak after that, but it was a different team. I don't see the Caps turning this around and them turning into the Redskins just surrounded by drama and controversy that only hurts the actual sports product itself.
this article provides zero information. It is just a summary of other articles that have been out a long time. The team lacks talent at the forward position. they went into the season a few years ago with no second line center and then they traded Flash. I think that was the downfall. now semin is gone. BB is one of the best coaches in the NHL. And he hid some of the capitals failings. Getting Laich back will help as he is the only guy on the team that shows leadership.
i think the steroids thing that came out and his suspensions for legal hits has destoyed whatever was in Ovechkin before his downward spirtal. Truthfully, I haven't been able to watch many games the last couple of years as they are so boring. Oh well Orioles and Ravens are doing awesome. And the team should get a good pick. Time to rebuild.
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I don't see the team changing much. I see a slow crumble into failure, or to stay at their current bottom of the NHL level, and slowly trading people away. 10 years of darkness to follow. Ovi NEEDS to change his game. He doesn't strike fear into anyone anymore because he has not adapted, he has not evolved. It's frustrating to watch the team at times. Last night they had spurts of good, hard working shifts and then something stupid would just deflate the team. I thought Oates was a Power Play wiz! Ugh.
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I don't see the team changing much. I see a slow crumble into failure, or to stay at their current bottom of the NHL level, and slowly trading people away. 10 years of darkness to follow. Ovi NEEDS to change his game. He doesn't strike fear into anyone anymore because he has not adapted, he has not evolved. It's frustrating to watch the team at times. Last night they had spurts of good, hard working shifts and then something stupid would just deflate the team. I thought Oates was a Power Play wiz! Ugh.
I mean, who's really surprised? This is the same shitbag owner who is too fucking cheap to change GMs after they end up hundreds of games under .500. When asked why he always hires first time coaches, gotta love Ted's answer: "Well, you'll have to ask George." It's because you're a cheap fucking asshole, Ted.
This team blows. It's softer than two-ply toilet paper. Defense still sucks, special teams is god awful. Ovie's career is in the toilet. Coaching is unproven.
Fuck you, Ted. Die in a botched carjacking.
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I'm still shocked anybody would pay a dime to watch whatever is being called Hockey this season....
Completely agree.
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For the first time in years I heard a radio commercial today from the Washington Capitals encouraging people to buy tickets "before they run out!", watching the games on TV it does look like there are a good amount of empty seats as well. Hopefully them getting booed off the ice will shake something up in the management tree....
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For the first time in years I heard a radio commercial today from the Washington Capitals encouraging people to buy tickets "before they run out!", watching the games on TV it does look like there are a good amount of empty seats as well. Hopefully them getting booed off the ice will shake something up in the management tree....
Actually I think 2 awful seasons will be good for the team. Well for me. Because I stopped going to games 3 years ago because of the ridiculous prices of tickets. If I can pick up tickets cheap on stubhub I might go to games again. And a couple of top draft picks along with that guy finally coming over from russia and we might have an exciting team again.
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I think the word is he wouldn't be coming over until 2014! I guess it might have been a waste for him to come this year with the lockout and all. Not to mention a quarter of the season already passing, 2 wins under their belt, and dead last in the league. Uy.
Prices on StubHub aren't that much cheaper... I guess it depends on the game, but chepeast I've seen is around $45 while through the team website I think they're about $47 for nose bleeds.
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Oates will not survive this season.
They will never do it but #8 needs to lose the C.
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Oates will not survive this season.
They will never do it but #8 needs to lose the C.
I don't see how you can fire 3 coaches within 100 games and not make yourself look like the problem. If Oates goes Mcphee has to go with him.
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Oates will not survive this season.
They will never do it but #8 needs to lose the C.
I don't see how you can fire 3 coaches within 100 games and not make yourself look like the problem. If Oates goes Mcphee has to go with him.
I agree that the org is the common denominator...but they didn't fire Hunter. He wanted out.
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they didn't fire Hunter. He wanted out.
Why do you think he wanted out, other than its easier to own and run an OHL franchise? Hint: Read between the lines.
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They will never do it but #8 needs to lose the C.
I think it's meaningless at this point, can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. He should have never been named captain in the first place.
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they didn't fire Hunter. He wanted out.
Why do you think he wanted out, other than its easier to own and run an OHL franchise? Hint: Read between the lines.
You don't even need to read between the lines...it's obvious why he would want to leave. Just clarifying the statement that firing oates would mean 3 coaches fired in 100 games.
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Lol, Ted gave Ernie a fucking extension and he's run the Wizards straight into the shitter. No way George gets the ax at this point. Maybe they'll consider the lockout shortended season and the new coach and call it a mulligan.
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Anyone excited about the run the Caps are on? Or the realignment next year?
I was at the Bruins game on Tuesday, I thought the roof was going to blow off the Phone Booth. SO much fun! Looking at getting tickets for the Sabres game... Sunday night game?! I can handle that!
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Anyone excited about the run the Caps are on? Or the realignment next year?
I was at the Bruins game on Tuesday, I thought the roof was going to blow off the Phone Booth. SO much fun! Looking at getting tickets for the Sabres game... Sunday night game?! I can handle that!
I'm not too impressed yet. They don't have many wins against quality opponents. Wins are better than losses though.
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Anyone excited about the run the Caps are on? Or the realignment next year?
I was at the Bruins game on Tuesday, I thought the roof was going to blow off the Phone Booth. SO much fun! Looking at getting tickets for the Sabres game... Sunday night game?! I can handle that!
Way too many Bruins fans there that night. Sat next to 2 of the worst ones.
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There was 1 in our section and of course he was as loud as can be, he was sitting by himself and drinking his beer at the end of the game. I pointed at him and laughed as I walked by.
One thing I DIDN'T like was the "let's go Bruins" countered by the "BRUINS SUCK" chants. Why not just drown them out with "LET'S GO CAPS! LET'S GO CAPS!" and the Caps fans just "booing" them loudly is also annoying. I hate when any of our stadiums get overrun by opposing team fans. At least we got the final laugh, but I did hear quite a few "Let's go Bruins" chants.... unfortunately I've heard louder chants from opposing team fans....
I believe we're 6-2 within the division and 4-9-1 outside the division.... While I will say I want to see more wins over better teams, I won't complain about the 8-3 mark over the last 11 as opposed to the 2-8-1 mark over the first 11.... Would like to see us pound some New York trash over the weekend.
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One thing I DIDN'T like was the "let's go Bruins" countered by the "BRUINS SUCK" chants. Why not just drown them out with "LET'S GO CAPS! LET'S GO CAPS!" and the Caps fans just "booing" them loudly is also annoying. I hate when any of our stadiums get overrun by opposing team fans. At least we got the final laugh, but I did hear quite a few "Let's go Bruins" chants.... unfortunately I've heard louder chants from opposing team fans....
I've thought this as well. Caps fans are somehow programmed like a go-go audience, all about the call and response. They predominantly will only chant after the horn guy or Goat start it.
Seems like it's been going like this forever. Same with the 'O' during the anthem, most are clueless its origin is for the Orioles. I hate that shit after we got the Nats.
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Didn't someone try to start having Nats fans scream when the anthem comes to the word "Red"? Wasn't that a thing?
Caps looked awful today. I would say it was the young goalie, but God damn, 45 shots!?!?
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I don't think it's the goalie's fault that so many guys are shooting at him.
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Yeah, it's hard to blame the goalie when that fucking defense allows 45 shots. 45 FUCKING SHOTS. THAT'S ALMOST HALFWAY TO 100. WHICH IS 10% OF 1000.
Hopefully they can bounce back into it with these back to back games against the Canes.
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Caps are team without much talent. They are probably playing where they belong. Bruce is the best coach in the NHL and he hid some of their problems. Losing Flash and Semin the last couple of years and having injuries to Laich and you don't have much of an NHL team right now. The Ducks are 18-6 right now. Time to fire Mcphee and re-build.
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He didnt fire Earnie and that bastard has driven the Wizards straight into the ground, George has 5 playoff appearances and 4 division titles since Ovechkin has come here. I just don't see him being fired. Flash was crap when he was here and Semin was lazy. If they didn't produce when they were here [with Boudreau, "the best coach in the NHL"] why keep them?
I think this team is grittier than they were under Hunter, it just seems like they still take their foot off the pedal. It seems like when they "stick to the system" it works out, in the end. But yesterday against the Rangers they ice was really fucking tilted in the other direction... At some points in the Islanders game it looked likt they were on 5 minute power plays but couldn't score. Against the Rangers it looked like they started getting bullied around halfway through the game. Of course the NBC commentators loved that. I fucking hate those cunts.
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He didnt fire Earnie and that bastard has driven the Wizards straight into the ground, George has 5 playoff appearances and 4 division titles since Ovechkin has come here. I just don't see him being fired. Flash was crap when he was here and Semin was lazy. If they didn't produce when they were here [with Boudreau, "the best coach in the NHL"] why keep them?
I think this team is grittier than they were under Hunter, it just seems like they still take their foot off the pedal. It seems like when they "stick to the system" it works out, in the end. But yesterday against the Rangers they ice was really fucking tilted in the other direction... At some points in the Islanders game it looked likt they were on 5 minute power plays but couldn't score. Against the Rangers it looked like they started getting bullied around halfway through the game. Of course the NBC commentators loved that. I fucking hate those cunts.
What is Mcphee's record when Bruce wasn't coaching? I am sure pretty awful. Even last year under Hunter their record was under .500. And the teams record with Ovechkin before Bruce was worst in the league. Bruce Brodreau is what got the team the titles. Not Mcphee.
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And Bruce Boudreau was FIRED because going to the playoffs is GREAT when in ends in a championship. 4 straight years, 4 straight division titles, even halfway through last year with Bruce and they still ended up in the playoffs with the same result: No championship.
I think George should be fired as well. MY argument is that I just don't see Ted doing that seeing as how Ernie has produced squat and just got an extension on his contract after burning the Wizards to the ground.... Get my point?
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I think George should be fired as well. MY argument is that I just don't see Ted doing that seeing as how Ernie has produced squat and just got an extension on his contract after burning the Wizards to the ground.... Get my point?
This team is so screwed. GMGM is going nowhere and unfortunately, neither is Ovie. They're completely rudderless and look like they are completely lost on the ice. Absolutely no leadership, no direction, no nothing. Ted will bloviate and talk about patience and offense. They're less than a shell of 2009.
Even worse the Caps give Tony Kornheiser's bitch ass plenty of easy cheap shots at the fan base.
Fuck you, Ted.
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And Bruce Boudreau was FIRED because going to the playoffs is GREAT when in ends in a championship. 4 straight years, 4 straight division titles, even halfway through last year with Bruce and they still ended up in the playoffs with the same result: No championship.
I think George should be fired as well. MY argument is that I just don't see Ted doing that seeing as how Ernie has produced squat and just got an extension on his contract after burning the Wizards to the ground.... Get my point?
the difference between Bruce teams and last season. Bruce's teams were exciting..well until Mcphee made him play the trap. Hunter's teams were unwatchable. Bad teams winning games. The league needs to change the rules so that doesn't happen. As for the Caps losing two years in a row during the 2nd and 3rd years of Bruce's reign. This might have to do with both the Pens and the Canadians having Hal Gil on their team who was put on Ovie. The Caps should have signed their own Hal Gil when they had a chance. You know a shut down defenseman.
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I'm not arguing excitement, I'm arguing the end result was always the same. Who gives a shit if it's exciting hockey or boring hockey if you win a championship? When you win, it's winning hockey and championship hockey. They were one of the highest scoring teams for 2 fucking years and could't get it done. I think THAT is where the patience comes in. Stick with the system, work out the kinks. As great as the Ducks are, i don't see them winning the Cup this year. I'll eat my own words if that happens, but we'll see. Maybe they're more disciplined over there.
I think we're asking a lot from a team that has gone through 3 systems in a year and a half, most especially with half a season and NO training camp this year. Say what you will about talent lacking, most of the core group that was here through those high powered years are still here.
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I'm not arguing excitement, I'm arguing the end result was always the same. Who gives a shit if it's exciting hockey or boring hockey if you win a championship? When you win, it's winning hockey and championship hockey. They were one of the highest scoring teams for 2 fucking years and could't get it done. I think THAT is where the patience comes in. Stick with the system, work out the kinks. As great as the Ducks are, i don't see them winning the Cup this year. I'll eat my own words if that happens, but we'll see. Maybe they're more disciplined over there.
I think we're asking a lot from a team that has gone through 3 systems in a year and a half, most especially with half a season and NO training camp this year. Say what you will about talent lacking, most of the core group that was here through those high powered years are still here.
Well if the games are unwatchable I really don't care if they win a championship or not becuase I am not watching them. So if they win by the coach taking advantage of the league not implementing rules to stop the game from being boring I am not going to watch. It is like when they didn't have a shot clock in college basketball and the coaches would play 4 corners or some bull shit. I am not watching that.
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Well if the games are unwatchable I really don't care if they win a championship or not becuase I am not watching them. So if they win by the coach taking advantage of the league not implementing rules to stop the game from being boring I am not going to watch. It is like when they didn't have a shot clock in college basketball and the coaches would play 4 corners or some bull shit. I am not watching that.
Thanks for outing yourself. Don't let the door hit you in the ass, idiot. Don't like it? Don't fucking watch it.
Nothing more insufferable than a fairweather hockey fan whining about "entertaining" hockey. Winning hockey is the most entertaining hockey there is.
Fuck off, already.
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And Bruce Boudreau was FIRED because going to the playoffs is GREAT when in ends in a championship. 4 straight years, 4 straight division titles, even halfway through last year with Bruce and they still ended up in the playoffs with the same result: No championship.
I think George should be fired as well. MY argument is that I just don't see Ted doing that seeing as how Ernie has produced squat and just got an extension on his contract after burning the Wizards to the ground.... Get my point?
I believe it was more about the majority of the players not trusting/following Bruce's coaching for his firing. Especially when the highest paid player, Ovie wasn't performing for the coach. It was either Bruce or Ovie and there's no way Ovie was going anywhere.
There is a possibility George could be gone if things keep trending down. George is the 3rd longest tenured GM and has been here since '97. That's much longer Ernie has been around so I wouldn't use that as a reason he's safe.
I would hope Ted is keeping an eye out for a prospective GM change. Buffalo has also got to be looking for a replacement for Regier. Both teams have no cups under their longstanding GMs.
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Well if the games are unwatchable I really don't care if they win a championship or not becuase I am not watching them. So if they win by the coach taking advantage of the league not implementing rules to stop the game from being boring I am not going to watch. It is like when they didn't have a shot clock in college basketball and the coaches would play 4 corners or some bull shit. I am not watching that.
Thanks for outing yourself. Don't let the door hit you in the ass, idiot. Don't like it? Don't fucking watch it.
Nothing more insufferable than a fairweather hockey fan whining about "entertaining" hockey. Winning hockey is the most entertaining hockey there is.
Fuck off, already.
you go fuck off. If it isn't entertaining I won't watch it. It isn't fairweather. I am there to be entertained. I can watch football instead. I went back to being a baseball fan last season. Hadn't been a fan since the early 90's when I first became a huge caps fan. Last season was too boring. So baseball got me back. And the Orioles happened to have a winning season so that was a plus for me.
And winning hockey is not entertaining. End to end action 80's style hockey is exciting. I don't care if they win if I fall asleep. And you have some sort of problem. there is no reason to get upset about this. You might need to see a psycologist.
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Well if the games are unwatchable I really don't care if they win a championship or not becuase I am not watching them. So if they win by the coach taking advantage of the league not implementing rules to stop the game from being boring I am not going to watch. It is like when they didn't have a shot clock in college basketball and the coaches would play 4 corners or some bull shit. I am not watching that.
Thanks for outing yourself. Don't let the door hit you in the ass, idiot. Don't like it? Don't fucking watch it.
Nothing more insufferable than a fairweather hockey fan whining about "entertaining" hockey. Winning hockey is the most entertaining hockey there is.
Fuck off, already.
you go fuck off. If it isn't entertaining I won't watch it. It isn't fairweather. I am there to be entertained. I can watch football instead. I went back to being a baseball fan last season. Hadn't been a fan since the early 90's when I first became a huge caps fan. Last season was too boring. So baseball got me back. And the Orioles happened to have a winning season so that was a plus for me.
And winning hockey is not entertaining. End to end action 80's style hockey is exciting. I don't care if they win if I fall asleep. And you have some sort of problem. there is no reason to get upset about this. You might need to see a psycologist.
So, if the Caps went 0-82 but scored 4 goals a game, you'd be entertained and happy with that? You're amazing. Seriously. I admire you.
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Well if the games are unwatchable I really don't care if they win a championship or not becuase I am not watching them. So if they win by the coach taking advantage of the league not implementing rules to stop the game from being boring I am not going to watch. It is like when they didn't have a shot clock in college basketball and the coaches would play 4 corners or some bull shit. I am not watching that.
Thanks for outing yourself. Don't let the door hit you in the ass, idiot. Don't like it? Don't fucking watch it.
Nothing more insufferable than a fairweather hockey fan whining about "entertaining" hockey. Winning hockey is the most entertaining hockey there is.
Fuck off, already.
you go fuck off. If it isn't entertaining I won't watch it. It isn't fairweather. I am there to be entertained. I can watch football instead. I went back to being a baseball fan last season. Hadn't been a fan since the early 90's when I first became a huge caps fan. Last season was too boring. So baseball got me back. And the Orioles happened to have a winning season so that was a plus for me.
And winning hockey is not entertaining. End to end action 80's style hockey is exciting. I don't care if they win if I fall asleep. And you have some sort of problem. there is no reason to get upset about this. You might need to see a psycologist.
So, if the Caps went 0-82 but scored 4 goals a game, you'd be entertained and happy with that? You're amazing. Seriously. I admire you.
If they had a bunch of rookies who were improving their game and they were playing exciting hockey then yeah I would be more likely to watch then a Dale Hunter led team even if hunter led team won championship. It is about entertainment. And there are 82 games plus a post-season. I can't be expected to watch something that boring. too many alternatives out there.
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So, what is the entertainment and the best possible outcome of sports? Solid effort? A team who busts their ass and never wins a championship? Not winning is failing. You're totally fine with watching failure so long as there is effort? And you choose that over a championship?
If the Caps backed into the playoffs because 9 other teams lost, and they went to 7 games in all of their series and went into triple overtime and WON the championship, I would enjoy it way more than watching them win the presidents cup and nothing else. You're an insane person if you choose ANYTHING else in sports over a championship. There is NOTHING you can say that TRUMPS WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP IN ANY SPORT. Nothing. Not one. Nothing. NOTHING. The only thing better, is winning another one, and then more. That's it.
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So, what is the entertainment and the best possible outcome of sports? Solid effort? A team who busts their ass and never wins a championship? Not winning is failing. You're totally fine with watching failure so long as there is effort? And you choose that over a championship?
If the Caps backed into the playoffs because 9 other teams lost, and they went to 7 games in all of their series and went into triple overtime and WON the championship, I would enjoy it way more than watching them win the presidents cup and nothing else. You're an insane person if you choose ANYTHING else in sports over a championship. There is NOTHING you can say that TRUMPS WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP IN ANY SPORT. Nothing. Not one. Nothing. NOTHING. The only thing better, is winning another one, and then more. That's it.
well that is if you can stand watching the season and still be a fan. If championships are so important why doesn't DC united have a ton of fans they have won 4 championships and the capitals zero. Why do you even watch them as they have never won the one thing that is important to you. My favorite capital season was Bruce's first with the team. They didn't even win a playoff series but it was still the best season. And why do you tell me what the best thing is? It is my opinion. I pay money to be entertained. You can spend your money on whatever stupid thing you want.
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It was either Bruce or Ovie and there's no way Ovie was going anywhere.
Look where that got us.
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So, what is the entertainment and the best possible outcome of sports? Solid effort? A team who busts their ass and never wins a championship? Not winning is failing. You're totally fine with watching failure so long as there is effort? And you choose that over a championship?
If the Caps backed into the playoffs because 9 other teams lost, and they went to 7 games in all of their series and went into triple overtime and WON the championship, I would enjoy it way more than watching them win the presidents cup and nothing else. You're an insane person if you choose ANYTHING else in sports over a championship. There is NOTHING you can say that TRUMPS WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP IN ANY SPORT. Nothing. Not one. Nothing. NOTHING. The only thing better, is winning another one, and then more. That's it.
well that is if you can stand watching the season and still be a fan. If championships are so important why doesn't DC united have a ton of fans they have won 4 championships and the capitals zero. Why do you even watch them as they have never won the one thing that is important to you. My favorite capital season was Bruce's first with the team. They didn't even win a playoff series but it was still the best season. And why do you tell me what the best thing is? It is my opinion. I pay money to be entertained. You can spend your money on whatever stupid thing you want.
No one cares about the MLS, that's why.
I'll spend my money on the Redskins and see them win a Super Bowl every year, Nationals with the Pennant every year, Capitals win the Cup every year, and the Wziards win a championship every year and be happy rather than seeing them go to the first round of the playoffs and not win shit and spend money and be happy. That's fucking stupid. You're stupid. Your opinion is flaming with stupidity. BUT, you're entitled to it, and that is totally fine. Even if I think it is the flagship of stupidity.
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So, what is the entertainment and the best possible outcome of sports? Solid effort? A team who busts their ass and never wins a championship? Not winning is failing. You're totally fine with watching failure so long as there is effort? And you choose that over a championship?
If the Caps backed into the playoffs because 9 other teams lost, and they went to 7 games in all of their series and went into triple overtime and WON the championship, I would enjoy it way more than watching them win the presidents cup and nothing else. You're an insane person if you choose ANYTHING else in sports over a championship. There is NOTHING you can say that TRUMPS WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP IN ANY SPORT. Nothing. Not one. Nothing. NOTHING. The only thing better, is winning another one, and then more. That's it.
well that is if you can stand watching the season and still be a fan. If championships are so important why doesn't DC united have a ton of fans they have won 4 championships and the capitals zero. Why do you even watch them as they have never won the one thing that is important to you. My favorite capital season was Bruce's first with the team. They didn't even win a playoff series but it was still the best season. And why do you tell me what the best thing is? It is my opinion. I pay money to be entertained. You can spend your money on whatever stupid thing you want.
No one cares about the MLS, that's why.
I'll spend my money on the Redskins and see them win a Super Bowl every year, Nationals with the Pennant every year, Capitals win the Cup every year, and the Wziards win a championship every year and be happy rather than seeing them go to the first round of the playoffs and not win shit and spend money and be happy. That's fucking stupid. You're stupid. Your opinion is flaming with stupidity. BUT, you're entitled to it, and that is totally fine. Even if I think it is the flagship of stupidity.
You are the one that is stupid. Thinking every year that the Wizards or Landover Football team have a chance of winning a championship. How dumb can one person be. And you think I should be just as stupid as you. Here is a hint for you ...neither of these teams will win a championship in the next decade. You should stop watching them. And why doesn't anyone care about the MLS? Could it be that it is boring???
BTW my Ravens won the championship this year. Feels great.. I guess you don't know what winning a championship in a real sport feels like. But I have enjoyed all the Ravenes seasons when they didn't win a championship. Last seasons Orioles season was awesome even though they didn't win a championship. I feel sorry for you. Not only are you so pathetic that you watch teams that can never give you any pleasure you are angry at someone else because they actually enjoy watching teams that you watch.
Pathetic I guess would describe you. And you spend money on 4 sports team a year? I guess that doesn't leave you much money too actually do things in life. All you do is sit around crying that your team didn't win a championship. When is the last time these teams won a championship: Capitals: Never. Wizards: 1978. Nationals: never, Redskins: 1991? So you haven't gotten any enjoyment for any of the money you spent in 22 years. Totally pathetic.
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What are the odds that you missed the point of my arguement, you ignorant cunt. I won't fuel this troll flame. So fuck off.
How about them Caps? Losing 3 straight by 3 goals? How awesome are they.
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What are the odds that you missed the point of my arguement, you ignorant cunt. I won't fuel this troll flame. So fuck off.
How about them Caps? Losing 3 straight by 3 goals? How awesome are they.
Yeah are the one trolling. I don't think stupidly like you. So i must be the stupid one. I said that they would be awful this season. Lack of talent. Get a good pick and then get the guys from europe. ANd fire mcphee. Strategy for success. And by success i mean having a chance to make the playoffs. Which you have to do if you want to win the cup. I guess you aren't bright enough to figure that one out.
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You both look like idiots. It's a draw.
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I'm pretty bummed out their goalie has record both his career shut outs against the Caps. How depressing. I hope he doesn't start tomorrow. GAH.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/washington-capitals-tough-spot-mike-ribeiro-contract-171111166--nhl.html
Haven't people been complaining for years about the 2nd line center? Or since Federov left? Ribiero has been on FIRE this year.
How bout them Caps? 2 points out of the final playoff spot...
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Caps make an awful trade. Now the farm system is officially bare.
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Trading 1 guy makes it bare? If you only have 1 guy, I feel like that's pretty bare.
We'll see. There HAS to be a reason to trade a guy you drafted last year who you were reluctant to get as he dropped so far.... I don't know. The Caps need to win now, they're 2 points out of the division lead.....
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I wouldn't call Tom Wilson, Phillip Grubauer, Stanislav Galiev and Yevgeni Kuznetsov 'bare'.
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I wouldn't call Tom Wilson, Phillip Grubauer, Stanislav Galiev and Yevgeni Kuznetsov 'bare'.
Galiev isn't even good enough to play in the AHL. He is in the ECHL like he has been all season. I will believe Kuzenetsov will ever play in the NHL when he signs a contract.
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lol: An Updated Guide To An NHL Rink: Presented By r/hockey!
http://imgur.com/pMFZ85I
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ lol
Anyone excited about this team? 4 in a row? 8-1-1 in the last 10? Ovi tied for the league lead in goals? Leads the league in PP goals? On pace for a 53 goal season over 82 games? No? Anyone?
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Yep, looking pretty good. I had season tickets for 5 years and this is my first year without them. I went last night and had a good time.
Ovie is good, but I have a hard time saying he is great. When he is on, he is unstoppable. That's the guy you see on the ice 52% of the time. The rest of the time, he's lazy and a waste. When you go to a Caps game, or watch on TV, you have no idea which Ovie you are going to see that night until 5 or 6 minutes into the game. Lately, this team is living up to their potential and I REALLY hope that it continues.
I miss the years of Bradley, Stecks and Gordon. That was a seriously great team out there on the ice. I'm hoping for the best!
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I miss the years of Bradley, Stecks and Gordon. That was a seriously great team out there on the ice. I'm hoping for the best!
Bradley getting his face mashed in? Steckel being useless? Boyd Gordon being scratched?
I think Ovi has been inconsistent because last year Hunter didn't trust him and Bruce was trying a new system. This year there's WAY more emphasis on the offense [not hard after Hunter's time here] and Ovi switched fromleft to right and was moved away from Nicki. Now they're back together and Nicki and Ovi are comfortable with him being on that right side and if you don't believe that then you aren't watching. I believe Oates trust in Ovi is now paying off and so is having decent goal tending. How many times has Holtby made it into the 3rd without allowing a goal? The kid is in a zone. I feel like I say that every year about SOME young goalie between the pipes for the Caps, but with Holtby it's game after game for long stretches. I dig it.
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There's no question that goaltending has improved. When I heard the rumors of Ryan Miller coming to DC at the trade deadline, I was praying it was false. Woo!
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I wouldn't shelf Holtby for Miller and get rid of Neuvy? Holtby gets better the more and more he plays, he's proven it. I don't think he's BETTER than Miller, but I'm glad that didn't come to fruition...
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I still think the Caps should have been sellers and not buyers at deadline. The line-up for tonights game looks pretty weak. It will be a good test to play a real team after all the games against the Southeast. Something to think about is next year they will be a new division and will face better teams.
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It's going to look weak when Brooks and Erat are out. They played 1 1/2 games with their full line-up this year and have still clawed their way back into first place. This team can still contend and they're showing that. Ovi is on a fucking tear right now. Last week was not the time to tap out. 7 goals, 9 points last week? Monster. MONSTER. A washed up monster.
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(http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/gmgm.gif)
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(http://www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/gmgm.gif)
Yeah I saw that during the game. I believe he was thinking: "I get to keep my job another year!!!!"
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He would have probably kept it another year anyway. Lock-out shortened season? 3rd coach in a year and a half? 3rd system? Come on.
I bought tickets to go to the Leafs game last week instead of the Jets game on Tuesday. Then bought tickets to the Nats game. What a huge fuck you to myself. Still stoked! I got into the car after the Nats game and got to hear the end of the game.
Sincerely hope we don't have to face the Senators.....
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Caps/Rangers?
I'm so happy we made it into the playoffs, but I fucking HATE the Rangers. Why. WHY!? I guess I'll just be happy we don't have to play the Sens.
Everyone saying Caps in 7. I swear I've heard that same thing a million times. Didn't we wipe these turds out in 5 games a couple years back [granted, that was 2 years ago]? Aren't they injury riddled? And I don't give 2 squirts of piss about Lunqvist. So sick of this team. I hope we crush them into non-existence. GO CAPS!!!
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Who thinks we're going to take the commanding lead tonight?
That Lunqvist is a tough cookie to crack. We can't keep passing whenever he's clearly beat. I hope they work on that for tonight. Rangers beat Holtby but rang the post a couple times [I think it's 4 total in the series now] those shots are going to find the back of the net at some point. I love the aggresiveness, but they need to stop hesitating. That fake from Ribs to Greeny was the perfect example. Everyone bit on the fake and Green launches a heater right passed Henrik. Fuck that guy. I hope we smash them hard at home.
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Who thinks we're going to take the commanding lead tonight?
That Lunqvist is a tough cookie to crack. We can't keep passing whenever he's clearly beat. I hope they work on that for tonight. Rangers beat Holtby but rang the post a couple times [I think it's 4 total in the series now] those shots are going to find the back of the net at some point. I love the aggresiveness, but they need to stop hesitating. That fake from Ribs to Greeny was the perfect example. Everyone bit on the fake and Green launches a heater right passed Henrik. Fuck that guy. I hope we smash them hard at home.
First off you crack a nut; you don't crack a cookie.
Secondly you say they need to stop hesitating (which I agree with btw - Shoot the puck!) but then cite, as an example, a play where the fake worked perfectly. Rangers D-man dropped to the ice to block a shot that never came. And Green scored.
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My point was that Ovi would pass it to Mojo or Nicky and they had Henrik completely beat and they would try to pass it instead. The point was when you're set up the way Ribs set up Green, SHOOT THE PUCK! Not the way Ovi was setting up Nicki and Mojo and they optioned to pass it instead. If he puts the rubber to your stick, fucking shoot it! Holtby is ice cold. One poop goal off our own player is all he's allowed. Hunter preached defense, yet this "offensive" style that Oates instilled still has great defense attached to it, no shots in the final 17+ minutes for the Rags!? That's insane!
Cookies can be hard, and then you have to crack it. But, you get my point. tough cookie, hard nut to crack, it's the internet.
Anyone know what Duffy's specials for the Caps games are?
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Not sure about drink specials, but isn't their kitchen closed on Mondays?
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No idea, I was gonna head there on Wednesday with some buds. I went for a game earlier this year and they had evan williams on special. it was a long night.
Go Caps!!!
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God damn it that goal pissed me off.
God damn it that gif is hilarious.
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Watched the second period tonight. The Caps totally suck. The trade of Forsberg will come back to haunt them. This team is the worst and next year when they aren't playing in the Southleast they will be anhilated. Good job GMGM
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God damn it that gif is hilarious.
Amazing....
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This hurts and amuses at the same time.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/945749_10200222972111568_650010891_n.jpg)
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I don't know how Ovi racked up 13 hits last night. It was frustrating to see him diving in front of shots, shooting the puck at the net, and setting up passes for his linemates and nothing happening with it. Ovi was fucking everywhere in the last 2 games and literally had nothing to show for it. I felt more frustrated for him than the team. Seeing the offense go that anemic was insane. No power plays in game 6 is almost laughable. Charging/Hooking for a 5-3 PP for the Rags? Come on man.
Caps eliminated from the playoffs. On my birthday. Again.
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ovi had some huge hits. he alternated from be a man on fire and a disconnected controller. it was all or nothing. a more sustained effort would have been nice.
i only caught the first half of the game and i'm glad that i had somewhere else to be... didn't need to see the end of that.
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With about 2 minutes left in the game they showed him on the bench with his head down for a solid 40 seconds or so. They panned away because he didn't look up. I actually feel for Ovi this year. He busted his ass this season, and was all over the ice when he was on. I think every player has moments where they're disconnected, if he had a goal in each of the last 2 games he would have been praised. Unfortunately the main point out of this series will be him having 2 points in the series and the team being shut out for the last 2 games. Such a shame.
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I don't know how Ovi racked up 13 hits last night. It was frustrating to see him diving in front of shots, shooting the puck at the net, and setting up passes for his linemates and nothing happening with it. Ovi was fucking everywhere in the last 2 games and literally had nothing to show for it. I felt more frustrated for him than the team. Seeing the offense go that anemic was insane. No power plays in game 6 is almost laughable. Charging/Hooking for a 5-3 PP for the Rags? Come on man.
Caps eliminated from the playoffs. On my birthday. Again.
ovi doesn't play defense all year, and then all of a sudden decides he's going to do everything.
there's something to be said for team's like ottawa or boston, who pass and move together all year round, and develop chemistry, and keep that up in the playoffs. they don't change there game plan. i just don't think the caps have a winning formula
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All those big hits are nice to watch and they look great on the stat sheet...but so many of them are not necessary...his efforts on a lot of those hits would be better spent getting back on D. A lot of them are just fluff and frustration.
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All those big hits are nice to watch and they look great on the stat sheet...but so many of them are not necessary...his efforts on a lot of those hits would be better spent getting back on D. A lot of them are just fluff and frustration.
I'd rather him show that than the rest of the team doing nothing. I'd LOVE to know how many open shots our players just passed on.
The Rangers were notorious for diving in front of everything. In games 1 and 2 it totally worked, we would fake and they would dive and we would shoot. Hell, Ribs to Green was off of that exact play. Except the Rangers adjusted and stopped diving every time our sticks went up and we continued to pass and screw around and instead of just putting rubber on the net they would panic, shoot, and have the puck cleared out. They didn't adjust, the Rags did.
Oatest did a good job of keeping these guys heads in the game when they were down later in the season, I don't know what the fuck happened in the last 2 games.
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Watched the second period tonight. The Caps totally suck. The trade of Forsberg will come back to haunt them. This team is the worst and next year when they aren't playing in the Southleast they will be anhilated. Good job GMGM
When did the Caps ever have Forsberg?
Fuck this team. Mentally fragile, physically soft. GMGM will never get fired because Ted's a fucking douchebag. Fuck you, Ted.
The only thing that can save the Craps at this point is firing GMGM and letting the new GM trade Ovie, Backstrom and Green. Much like how the B's traded Thornton years ago, the Caps will never move forward until their albatross, for better or worse, is with a new club. And look how the Thornton trade worked for both SJ and Boston.
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Filip Forsberg. Traded for Erat.
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Filip Forsberg. Traded for Erat.
I stand corrected.
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Metropolitan Division???
I can't believe I'd rather be in the Southeast.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428001 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428001)
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Metropolitan Division???
I can't believe I'd rather be in the Southeast.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428001 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428001)
Really? Pittsburgh Penguins, Philadelphia Flyers, New Jersey Devils, New York Rangers, New York Islanders, Carolina Hurricanes and Columbus Blue Jackets. Is a lot better than Carolina, Atlanta, Florida, Tampa. Less traveling and better oponents some of whom might actually be rivals. None of the Southeast teams made a decent rival.
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Craps will be lucky to make the playoffs next year. Fuck you, Ted.
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Metropolitan Division???
I can't believe I'd rather be in the Southeast.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428001 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428001)
Really? Pittsburgh Penguins, Philadelphia Flyers, New Jersey Devils, New York Rangers, New York Islanders, Carolina Hurricanes and Columbus Blue Jackets. Is a lot better than Carolina, Atlanta, Florida, Tampa. Less traveling and better oponents some of whom might actually be rivals. None of the Southeast teams made a decent rival.
Just the name not teams. If it's so necessary for them to keep the geography thing. Just call it the American division since there's no Canadian teams in it.
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Metropolitan Division???
I can't believe I'd rather be in the Southeast.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428001 (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=428001)
I like the name. I would LOVE to see the high scoring Caps from a few years back in this division. This new Caps is going to get shit on. Say goodbye to winning the division for a few years. I can't wait to be disappointed, yet again, by ANOTHER DC sports team.
It's not even cold out yet and I'm already saddened by the upcoming hockey season.
No matter how much I hate the Pens/Flyers/Devils/Ranger/Islander/Canes, seeing more games against them will be way better than seeing games against Jets/Lightning.
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Great game last night! Offense has the capability to tilt the ice in their favor. Bummer that it had to end on such a soft goal. Even though we got the 5-on-3 at the end, real shame that ended up being the winning tally. Very excited though. This Grabo character seems to be onto something.