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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: grateful on July 22, 2011, 10:12:22 am
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So the first Fillmore Silver Spring shows have been announced - http://www.fillmoresilverspring.com/
That deserves a big giant meh.
Any ideas on who could be playing Sept 21 and 22?
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Kenny Loggins and Michael Bolton ;D
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They basically went "Who played at Wolf Trap/ the Birchmere this summer that we can book again in the Fall?"
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What!?! You mean the Mountain Goats won't be playing there anytime soon? :P
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i wonder if i can get shot, see crack vials in the streets, or have my car windows busted out when i park at the new fillmore? i wonder how much a shitty tasting beer from tap will cost there?
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the lineup is respectable actually.. i mean check your hatred for LNTicketbastard at the door and think about it;
Cheap Trick, Primus, Blondie, Black Star, Mary J Blige, Thorogood, Psychedelic Furs/TOM tom club
its just not bands that are "hip"..there is also the promise of "Rock en Espanol" shows which is something sorely needed and virtually ignored by IMP
to me it looks like the venue is going to be putting on CLUB shows by bands that often times don't do club shows in the DC area... thats great news to the concert consumer if not the IMP cheerleader.
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Train
Surprise! At the Fillmore! Reba
Love Seed Mama Jump
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also Lewis Black sells out multi night stands at the Warner Theatre regularly...
so its going to draw...
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Mary J tix are $100.50 with fees
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Mary J tix are $100.50 with fees
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i guess someone has to pay for all the Live Nation execs, Montgomery County pols, etc...
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to me it looks like the venue is going to be putting on CLUB shows by bands that often times don't do club shows in the DC area... thats great news to the concert consumer if not the IMP cheerleader.
People don't fundamentally dislike this place because they are "IMP Cheerleaders". People aren't attacking the Black Cat or the Birchmere. A music club should reflect the character of the community. It should have a soul. A personality. People are just calling bullshit. This place is a strictly corporate entity, with no soul, and is an insult to the community. . .a community that is making progress towards some personality (AFI Silver, Ray's the Classics) but still mired in faceless chain franchise crappiness. Don't confuse advocating businesses that reflect, enhance and promote community and personality with 'hipsterism' or cheerleading.
And to your other point, if you were alive in the past 5 years you probably could have seen nearly all those bands play a local club show.
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Primus on a Saturday? Sounds like a party to me.
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I can't count how many times I've seen a band at the 9:30 Club say "this is the best club in the country" or "this is our favorite place to play" or "you guys are so lucky to have the 9:30 Club". That's not going to change just because a new venue opens up. I'm not intrigued by much of what I see announced at Fillmore SS. I was concerned when Ram's Head opened up (and for a while they did get a LOT of good shows that the 9:30 didn't get), but the 9:30 still is a jewel that bands will go out of their way to book if they can get it. How many times have you seen a band play at a House of Blues that said, "MAN, we LOVE playing here!"? Please. Corporate venues are lame.
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to me it looks like the venue is going to be putting on CLUB shows by bands that often times don't do club shows in the DC area... thats great news to the concert consumer if not the IMP cheerleader.
People don't fundamentally dislike this place because they are "IMP Cheerleaders". People aren't attacking the Black Cat or the Birchmere. A music club should reflect the character of the community. It should have a soul. A personality. People are just calling bullshit. This place is a strictly corporate entity, with no soul, and is an insult to the community. . .a community that is making progress towards some personality (AFI Silver, Ray's the Classics) but still mired in faceless chain franchise crappiness. Don't confuse advocating businesses that reflect, enhance and promote community and personality with 'hipsterism' or cheerleading.
And to your other point, if you were alive in the past 5 years you probably could have seen nearly all those bands play a local club show.
I fundamentally disagree with you. Of course Live Nation blows as a company but do you think my friend Enrique who is a huge music maniac and lives 10 blocks from the venue and loves Cheap Trick, enough to have driven up to Baltimore at Ramshead, isn't going to get pleasure out of seeing Cheap Trick in his backyard?
You are holding this venue to an impossible standard before it even began... remember if you read the statements from the GM she specifically cites a desire to reflect the community etc.. remember that the 930/imp has barely put on ANY latin music in an area where the hispanic community is sizable (I have written about it in the Hey Seth thread to no avail).. AND remember that the Warner Theatre which IS a LIVE NATION venue reflects the DC community arguably far more than the 930 does (all those urban theatre plays)..
Its poppycock to prejudge it as a bad thing.. in the end its a club to see music..
And people do talk shit about the Birchmere all the time on this board FYI.
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Dunno if these have been posted:
Pictures of construction from the inside and out:
http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgtmpl.asp?url=/content/DGS/DBDC/RegionalProjectPages/SilverSpringProjects/fillmore.asp
Looks cool
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I can't count how many times I've seen a band at the 9:30 Club say "this is the best club in the country" or "this is our favorite place to play" or "you guys are so lucky to have the 9:30 Club". That's not going to change just because a new venue opens up. I'm not intrigued by much of what I see announced at Fillmore SS. I was concerned when Ram's Head opened up (and for a while they did get a LOT of good shows that the 9:30 didn't get), but the 9:30 still is a jewel that bands will go out of their way to book if they can get it. How many times have you seen a band play at a House of Blues that said, "MAN, we LOVE playing here!"? Please. Corporate venues are lame.
I don't disagree with pretty much any of this.. we all know the 930 Club is the best club in the country
thats not the issue... its more like "Ok the 930 club is the best club in the country but is the Fillmore opening going to improve my concertgoing at all?"
I'd have to say that based on the early indications its pretty clear it is.. at worse it will be somewhere else to catch rock bands and if you like them and they can't/don't play the 930 I don't see anything wrong with checking them out at the Fillmore..
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Of course Enrique should walk the 10 blocks and see Cheap Trick. I'm sure he'll enjoy it. And of course Live Nation put out press releases saying they would try to reflect the community. But its not authentic, and that's a disservice. If DC subsidized putting a Panera Bread where Busboys and Poets originated, the residents would have a place to get coffee and WiFi . . .and bread . . .which is nice . . .but an opportunity for true vitality (which of course resulted from B&P) would have been retarded by something stagnant (even if Panera tried to 'reflect community').
People talk sh*t about Birchmere, but I'd be surprised if people don't respect the Birchmere.
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Dunno if these have been posted:
Pictures of construction from the inside and out:
http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgtmpl.asp?url=/content/DGS/DBDC/RegionalProjectPages/SilverSpringProjects/fillmore.asp
Looks cool
damn, that is some corporate swag ;D
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Of course Enrique should walk the 10 blocks and see Cheap Trick. I'm sure he'll enjoy it. And of course Live Nation put out press releases saying they would try to reflect the community. But its not authentic, and that's a disservice. If DC subsidized putting a Panera Bread where Busboys and Poets originated, the residents would have a place to get coffee and WiFi . . .and bread . . .which is nice . . .but an opportunity for true vitality (which of course resulted from B&P) would have been retarded by something stagnant (even if Panera tried to 'reflect community').
People talk sh*t about Birchmere, but I'd be surprised if people don't respect the Birchmere.
crazy.. there were DECADES for other people to build a concert venue in Silver Spring.. nobody did. the birchmere pulled out.. IMP only seemed to get interested/ panties in a bunch when Montgomery County and LN reached their agreement..
Moreover, I'm not so sure the concertgoer isn't better served by having LN have a major club presence in the area than by IMP expanding its empire.. Lets remember: IMP is the one that runs the show in town.
people hate Live Nation and everythingn about it.. if Live Nation hadn't built the Fillmore we'd have the coolest club full of personality etc. built by IMP without taxpayer subsidies... and pigs fly...ok maybe, but I'm skeptical... IMP seems very comfortable with its current setup... when it has bigger shows it rents out DAR (substandard sound) or Strathmore or now the Kastles stadium.. it also books at Ramshead and MPP..I mean IMP has it all already... its going to keep doing great.. but having another player, I think, could be good for the concert consumer
the 930 hardly ever books Latin rock acts. I might not like Live Nation but its Live Nation venues putting on Andres Calamaro's first US tour.. and I will gladly go to NYC to check it out and I hope he comes back and plays the Fillmore cause I know the 930 Club ain't doing it.
again , lets remember that we all know the 930 is the best club in the US et.. we all know LN and Montgomery County pulled a shady deal that did not benefit taxpayers, and we all know LN is on the hall of shame list of companies..
BUt at the end of the day when I saw Mark Knopfler at the Warner Theatre who gave a rats ass if it was a Live nation venue? same with Elvis Costello and many others!
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That lineup really does make Live Nation look like the Walmart of live music.
And Hutch, what makes you think they will book Latin rock? The vague comment by that woman about "reflecting the community?"
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That lineup really does make Live Nation look like the Walmart of live music.
And Hutch, what makes you think they will book Latin rock? The vague comment by that woman about "reflecting the community?"
that comment plus the fact that she specifically mentioned "rock en espanol" and that its a completely underserved market with a huge hole waiting to be filled (a market which IMP has "gifted" to the State Theatre; some of their best performing shows are latin rock.. Enanitos Verdes consistently sells out for example. Los autenticos decadentes virtually sold out the State and then sold out Black Cat [filled way over capacity with people including me outside trying to get in])..
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A music club should reflect the character of the community. It should have a soul. A personality. People are just calling bullshit. This place is a strictly corporate entity, with no soul,
this has been my experience at every HoB i've been to - souless. trying waaaaay to hard to package rock 'n' roll: guitars on the wall! posters of shows the venue was in no way associated with! vintage '60's car in the lobby!
this IS your dad's rock and roll club.
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You sound more like a teenager than a 35 year old who's old enough to be the father of a teenager.
A music club should reflect the character of the community. It should have a soul. A personality. People are just calling bullshit. This place is a strictly corporate entity, with no soul,
this has been my experience at every HoB i've been to - souless. trying waaaaay to hard to package rock 'n' roll: guitars on the wall! posters of shows the venue was in no way associated with! vintage '60's car in the lobby!
this IS your dad's rock and roll club.
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Boring.
People bitch about how "corporate" and "cookie cutter" a venue is and who gives a shit? People bitch about the shitty quality of a venue, how much the crowd sucks, how awful the acoustics are, how shitty the bookings are, how much better their first album was better than their fifth. Get over it. Don't bitch about spending your money, or someone else spending money. You can not spend it and that's fine. If you wanna spend 300$ and expect to be treated like royalty you're not the only one in the same boat, a shit load of other people spent the same amount of money. If Queens of the Stone Age were playing in an alley just through their amps I'd think it was the best show ever becuase for it's about the music. I've seen awful shows at 930 Club and I've seen amazing shows at Ottobar. The experience is what you make it. Ottobar is a shit hole, but with the right attitude it's totally awesome.
It's just so boring, everyone here will go to The Fillmore and then shit on it and bla bla. Get over it.
9:30 Club is for sellouts.
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remember that the 930/imp has barely put on ANY latin music
what do you expect, gregorian chanting every third friday?
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It's just so boring, everyone here will go to The Fillmore and then shit on it and bla bla. Get over it.
I don't think its boring. Its a pretty interesting philosophical discussion.
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It's just so boring, everyone here will go to The Fillmore and then shit on it and bla bla. Get over it.
I don't think its boring. Its a pretty interesting philosophical discussion.
Sure, but at the end of the day it's just a bunch of bitching and there's so much of it on this board. Yes, I can post elsewhere or not read it, but the threads I DO like to read sometimes wander off into that and it's just annoying. There should just be a bitching thread hahaha
Me, I'm excited to check out the venue. A new venue? Totally awesome. Who cares if it's all polished and fake old posters, I'm goin for the music and what not.
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hopefully like the birchmere . . . they'll have good food.
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Im wondering if like other LN venues (ie Irving Plaza) that there is now a service charge to buy tix at the box office. Granted its not as high as the service charge online, but I think its still like $4 or $5. I nearly had a meltdown buying Howard Jones tix - but realized I wanted to see HoJo too much.
If they wanted to really be helping out fans, theyd find a way to reduce their service charges which are becoming astronomical.
Im sure the FSS will be almost a duplicate of Irving Plaza for shows. So if youre curious who might be showing up - just check out their site. Maybe theyll start giving out apples and posters again, although The Fillmore might have already stopped that. Im sure Smackie could comment.
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Would it be accurate to say that Irving Plaza used to be better before it became a Fillmore franchise and now is getting absolutely crushed by the Bowery venues, is unloved, and is essentially irrelevant??
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i am not going unless they is valet parking.
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$4.50 per ticket in fees to buy a ticket at the Birchmere box office. $4.50 in fees to buy a ticket at the door.
Im wondering if like other LN venues (ie Irving Plaza) that there is now a service charge to buy tix at the box office. Granted its not as high as the service charge online, but I think its still like $4 or $5. I nearly had a meltdown buying Howard Jones tix - but realized I wanted to see HoJo too much.
If they wanted to really be helping out fans, theyd find a way to reduce their service charges which are becoming astronomical.
Im sure the FSS will be almost a duplicate of Irving Plaza for shows. So if youre curious who might be showing up - just check out their site. Maybe theyll start giving out apples and posters again, although The Fillmore might have already stopped that. Im sure Smackie could comment.
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it's a good thing that cheap trick show didn't involve GBV otherwise fake mustaches would have been required....
did anyone checkout the website for underground rebel bingo (which is quite possibly the STUPIDEST name for an event ever, given they hold it in among other places Ibiza and Las Vegas). hopefully the first "hipster" invasion of Silver Spring will piss off the NIMBYs...
i vote when they have their first 2 for 1 LivingSocial offer, we get in on the deal and show up wearing our 930 club finery. I suspect that wont take to long to happen :)
Did you see yesterday's Groupon for the lube? Hilariously offered the same day as the the Walmore annoucement
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i guess someone has to pay for all the Live Nation execs, Montgomery County pols, etc...
Rack
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Ive never been a huge fan of Irving Plaza before or after the whole Fillmore mess. They were a LN venue tho before they went to Fillmore (not sure if they were once privately held - which Id imagine they were). Either way - it sucks going there a lot more now as Ill be paying more for a ticket regardless of how I get it. Sightlines suck, beer prices way high, etc.
I just avoid nearly all the shows at LN venues. Bowery has kind of taken over most of NYC, so in general they are seeing some of the best shows. Personally, Id rather see a show at The Bell House or Knitting Factory or anywhere thats not either of the 2. As Bowery has most the shows, thats much harder - but given a choice between Bowery Ballroom and The Bell House, Ill take the Bell House everytime (if possible). I do love the Mercury Lounge, tho. At least Bowery doesnt charge a fee to buy tix at the box office.
Would it be accurate to say that Irving Plaza used to be better before it became a Fillmore franchise and now is getting absolutely crushed by the Bowery venues, is unloved, and is essentially irrelevant??
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Boring.
People bitch about how "corporate" and "cookie cutter" a venue is and who gives a shit? People bitch about the shitty quality of a venue, how much the crowd sucks, how awful the acoustics are, how shitty the bookings are, how much better their first album was better than their fifth. Get over it. Don't bitch about spending your money, or someone else spending money. You can not spend it and that's fine. If you wanna spend 300$ and expect to be treated like royalty you're not the only one in the same boat, a shit load of other people spent the same amount of money. If Queens of the Stone Age were playing in an alley just through their amps I'd think it was the best show ever becuase for it's about the music. I've seen awful shows at 930 Club and I've seen amazing shows at Ottobar. The experience is what you make it. Ottobar is a shit hole, but with the right attitude it's totally awesome.
It's just so boring, everyone here will go to The Fillmore and then shit on it and bla bla. Get over it.
9:30 Club is for sellouts.
I much prefer the Ottobar to the 930 club. Well except when they over sell the venue and you can't get in the front room otherwise it is much better. And has cheaper beer and friendlier crowds.
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I am not overly impressed with the initial shows. Perhaps it will be like a Nissan Pavillion vs MPP type of deal where Filmore gets more has-beens and 930 gets up and comers.
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Well, I LOVE Cheap Trick, but $54 is hefty. And it's a Tuesday.
When you go to look at buying tix, they give the early bird presale. Is this a LN presale? (There's one for Psych Furs as well). Wondering how you get on that presale list, though I'm not sure you'll need to worry about presales right away...
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geez..yah..looks like to get in the door at fillmore you're looking at at least 44$ (for the $35 shows)...
not cheap.then again not surprising..
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judging from the shows they announced today, it looks like they are competing with the birchmere.
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Any Spanish speaking shows listed?
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I dont' see any new shows listed anywhere. .not on live nation.com not on pollstar... not on facebook..
i can't even find the fillmore website..however
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We already saw the grand opening and their biggest act of all with the Dog & Pony Show with Ike Leggett trying to justify this corrupt farce they pulled on the public. >:(
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I know I may just be being paranoid, but I just realized something... Rock The Bells snubbed DC this year; deciding not to return for what would have been their third year at MPP (an IMP venue). Nonetheless, they did decide to host Talib Kwali and Mos Def at The Fillmore in September... is this possibly the beginning of the whacky behind-the-scenes contractual obligations affect who plays where and when and why?
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I don't know about contractual obligations and what not . . .to me it seems like the primary requirement to get booked at this place is that you are no longer creatively viable but yet you still exist.
Rock the Bells moving from DC to Boston seems somewhat reasonable . . .if they only have 2 east coast shows it makes sense to play NY and then alternate the second venue. Why Boston though . . .when I think Boston-hip hop all I can think of is the verse from Bell Biv Devoe's Poison (delivered from a top the basketball rim I believe) and Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch. Though DC doesn't have much of a better history, sadly. Atlanta seems to make more sense.
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I don't know about contractual obligations and what not . . .to me it seems like the primary requirement to get booked at this place is that you are no longer creatively viable but yet you still exist.
Rock the Bells moving from DC to Boston seems somewhat reasonable . . .if they only have 2 east coast shows it makes sense to play NY and then alternate the second venue. Why Boston though . . .when I think Boston-hip hop all I can think of is the verse from Bell Biv Devoe's Poison (delivered from a top the basketball rim I believe) and Marky Mark and the Get Fresh Crew. Though DC doesn't have much of a better history, sadly. Atlanta seems to make more sense.
RTB has been in Atlanta in the past. I also think that DC has a much more than negligible hip hop history-- from ancient history like Duke Ellington (admittedly not a hiphop artist, but definitely a hugely influential force in all African American music), to another hip-hop-affecting genre, go-go (see Chuck Brown), to DJ Kool, who most famously wrote "Let Me Clear My Throat" (which may be somewhat laughable). Jarobi White of A Tribe Called Quest has been recorded as saying that the DMV is "home for [him]", and though his involvement in ATCQ has dwindled, he remains involved in DC hiphop as the the manager of area-artist, Head-Roc. More recently Wale, who is hooked up with Interscope (the label he chose after a bidding war took place between them, Atlantic, Epic, and Def Jam), is another young DC rapper with very distinguished credibility. Howard U has also long been regarded as a hugely important venue to win over for up and coming (and even established) acts. We may not be ATL, NY, or LA, but DC can hang with some of the second-string hip-hop towns out there, and is CERTAINLY more hip-hop than Boston.
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I don't know about contractual obligations and what not . . .to me it seems like the primary requirement to get booked at this place is that you are no longer creatively viable but yet you still exist.
Rock the Bells moving from DC to Boston seems somewhat reasonable . . .if they only have 2 east coast shows it makes sense to play NY and then alternate the second venue. Why Boston though . . .when I think Boston-hip hop all I can think of is the verse from Bell Biv Devoe's Poison (delivered from a top the basketball rim I believe) and Marky Mark and the Get Fresh Crew. Though DC doesn't have much of a better history, sadly. Atlanta seems to make more sense.
RTB has been in Atlanta in the past. I also think that DC has a much more than negligible hip hop history-- from ancient history like Duke Ellington (admittedly not a hiphop artist, but definitely a hugely influential force in all African American music), to another hip-hop-affecting genre, go-go (see Chuck Brown), to DJ Kool, who most famously wrote "Let Me Clear My Throat" (which may be somewhat laughable). Jarobi White of A Tribe Called Quest has been recorded as saying that the DMV is "home for [him]", and though his involvement in ATCQ has dwindled, he remains involved in DC hiphop as the the manager of area-artist, Head-Roc. More recently Wale, who is hooked up with Interscope (the label he chose after a bidding war took place between them, Atlantic, Epic, and Def Jam), is another young DC rapper with very distinguished credibility. Howard U has also long been regarded as a hugely important venue to win over for up and coming (and even established) acts. We may not be ATL, NY, or LA, but DC can hang with some of the second-string hip-hop towns out there, and is CERTAINLY more hip-hop than Boston.
I would also add Gil Scott Heron.
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I also think that DC has a much more than negligible hip hop history
Culturally, absolutely. Creatively? It seems to me that DC's strong musical history and culture have primarily played the role of 'muse' in the history of hip hop . . .influencing and inspiring but not (to a large extent) creating. Where was DC in the 'golden age' of hip hop? Some noises being made today (but Wale making Maybach Music does not seem to bode well).
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I also think that DC has a much more than negligible hip hop history
Culturally, absolutely. Creatively? It seems to me that DC's strong musical history and culture have primarily played the role of 'muse' in the history of hip hop . . .influencing and inspiring but not (to a large extent) creating. Where was DC in the 'golden age' of hip hop? Some noises being made today (but Wale making Maybach Music does not seem to bode well).
This is a fair point too, but I feel that the crux of my argument lies in my final sentence-- we certainly are not and never have been NY, LA, ATL, but we have always been more than Denver, Nashville, Seattle, Boston, Louisville, Milwaukee, Portland, and pretty much every other cities of comparable population. We even do better than some cities twice our size (Pheonix, San Antonio, etc.). And I suppose that if I had to talk about where DC was during the golden age of hiphop, I'd have to start talking about Bad Brains, Fugazi, and Minor Threat... none of whom are hip hop obviously, but all of whom enjoyed quite widespread national success (albeit niche success). Creatively I feel like DC's Go-Go sound is still audible in much of the hip-hop we have produced. It may not be quite as successful or popular as southern rap or the tell-tale synthesizer wurrings so omnipresent in west-coast gangster rap, but nonetheless I do feel that it is just as valid and recognizable a trademark as something like Bay-Area hyphie.
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Primus at FSS is $54 all up. Insane.
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Ouch!
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Creatively I feel like DC's Go-Go sound is still audible in much of the hip-hop we have produced.
And in RuPaul's epic track Tranny Chaser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQOu2d0L1qE
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If it weren't for the filmore, there would never have been this re: filmore ss shows thread, and if we didn't have this thread I never would have been aware of the Tranny Chaser video. I ain't mad at you Fillmore! It was all worth it!!
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Primus at FSS is $54 all up. Insane.
I don't know if people in the burbs are dying for Cheap Trick or Primus but they are both crazy expensive...
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And both probably will sell out as soon as Michelle Bachmann makes a rational statement.
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do you think there is a "hidden backlash" in the world of those who entertain us, that whispers stay away from live nation? duran duran is what i would think is a perfect example. i don't study it too deeply, but can anyone play a live nation owned venue, correct, without having to sign weird contracts that make the old days of shady record company contracts look like gold leaf? duran duran chose dar over the chance to truly bring the "initiation" shows that a new venue needs, regardless of who owns it. i mean . . . dar over a fillmore venue that is state of the art? is there that much a "hidden hatred of live nation/ticketmaster new world cloning of music into blue house fillmores that mean nothing more than cash revenue, that a band would choose a venue such as dar. i mean, come on. dar? i would give them credit if they played lincoln theatre or even lisner. that could of been epic. duran duran needs epic. it is who they are. their song, the chauffeur proves that.
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LN put on shows at DAR too sometimes.
Is Duran Duran definitely an IMP event?
And speaking of IMP, they also use Lisner and Lincoln.
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so seth is floating solo on an island surrounded by the shark infested seas?
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I have to say that you cannot get me to spend $54 and go out to Silver Spring to see a show that should realistically cost $30 and be a little more accessible. I don't know how most folks feel, but living in the city and working long hours, there's just no way I'm going to want to spend my time, energy and money that way. I want to be able to pop over and be there relatively quickly and not invest a ton of time getting to and from a venue. It's just too much hassle. And that's one of the benefits of living in a city. I guess the idea is to make the venue more accessible to people in the burbs, and draw bands that are likely going to appeal to folks who go to maybe a few shows a year and don't mind dropping $60 a pop on tickets? I dunno.
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I have to say that you cannot get me to spend $54 and go out to Silver Spring to see a show that should realistically cost $30 and be a little more accessible. I don't know how most folks feel, but living in the city and working long hours, there's just no way I'm going to want to spend my time, energy and money that way. I want to be able to pop over and be there relatively quickly and not invest a ton of time getting to and from a venue. It's just too much hassle. And that's one of the benefits of living in a city. I guess the idea is to make the venue more accessible to people in the burbs, and draw bands that are likely going to appeal to folks who go to maybe a few shows a year and don't mind dropping $60 a pop on tickets? I dunno.
I completely agree, however...After living eight blocks from the club for nine years I now live in SS, so I'm hoping they pull a decent act once a month or so. :-\
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it's like 5 miles or less from the DC line...
I have to say that you cannot get me to spend $54 and go out to Silver Spring to see a show that should realistically cost $30 and be a little more accessible. I don't know how most folks feel, but living in the city and working long hours, there's just no way I'm going to want to spend my time, energy and money that way. I want to be able to pop over and be there relatively quickly and not invest a ton of time getting to and from a venue. It's just too much hassle. And that's one of the benefits of living in a city. I guess the idea is to make the venue more accessible to people in the burbs, and draw bands that are likely going to appeal to folks who go to maybe a few shows a year and don't mind dropping $60 a pop on tickets? I dunno.
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People looking for a reason to hate the new Fillmore are going to find it..easily..
In any case, obviously if one lives right next to the 930 its far more convenient to go there but for people out in Montgomery County its going to be far easier to go to the Fillmore than the 930.
Its interesting to wonder whether some of those who object to the Fillmore's location feel the same way about Merriwether; now THAT is a hike.
I can see the reply altready: but Merriwether is worth it!
So like I said, at the end of the day people who don't want to like the Fillmore are going to find plenty of reasons: the location, its a LN venue, the prices, its not hip, the acts suck, yada yada
I'm not sure the Fillmore's success is going to have anything to do with boardies.
Personally I think the prices at the Fillmore suck and am curious to see how they do on sales.....
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I have to say that you cannot get me to spend $54 and go out to Silver Spring to see a show that should realistically cost $30 and be a little more accessible. I don't know how most folks feel, but living in the city and working long hours, there's just no way I'm going to want to spend my time, energy and money that way. I want to be able to pop over and be there relatively quickly and not invest a ton of time getting to and from a venue. It's just too much hassle. And that's one of the benefits of living in a city. I guess the idea is to make the venue more accessible to people in the burbs, and draw bands that are likely going to appeal to folks who go to maybe a few shows a year and don't mind dropping $60 a pop on tickets? I dunno.
dupont circle metro station to silver spring station: 25-26 minutes, add 3 minutes to walk to the venue. while not as convenient as a downtown club, it's not like we're not talking patriot center-type transpo issues.
but your point is taken: over-priced & mediocre lineup at a corporate themed club in the 'burbs = fail.
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I have to say that you cannot get me to spend $54 and go out to Silver Spring to see a show that should realistically cost $30 and be a little more accessible. I don't know how most folks feel, but living in the city and working long hours, there's just no way I'm going to want to spend my time, energy and money that way. I want to be able to pop over and be there relatively quickly and not invest a ton of time getting to and from a venue. It's just too much hassle. And that's one of the benefits of living in a city. I guess the idea is to make the venue more accessible to people in the burbs, and draw bands that are likely going to appeal to folks who go to maybe a few shows a year and don't mind dropping $60 a pop on tickets? I dunno.
dupont circle metro station to silver spring station: 25-26 minutes, add 3 minutes to walk to the venue. while not as convenient as a downtown club, it's not like we're not talking patriot center-type transpo issues.
but your point is taken: over-priced & mediocre lineup at a corporate themed club in the 'burbs = fail.
I agree with this. I could get to Silver Spring easy enough by metro, but until they have a show I have a slight interest in, that isn't insanely overpriced, no way.
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I live on the orange/blue Metro...but on an early night I typically don't get out of work until 8pm. So by the time I go home, change, Metro all the way out there...9:30 arrival at best. And then I need to deal with Metro on the way home. More time spent in transit than probably spent enjoying the show. Really, not all that doable even though it's relatively accessible as compared to say, oh, the Patriot Center. So for someone like me, 9:30 Club shows are still in the realm of possibility. Fillmore SS starts to be much more of a challenge. It's not that I am looking for reasons to hate. I'm looking for reasons to actually go and check it out, and I'm coming up a little short.
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I live on the orange/blue Metro...but on an early night I typically don't get out of work until 8pm. So by the time I go home, change, Metro all the way out there...9:30 arrival at best. And then I need to deal with Metro on the way home. More time spent in transit than probably spent enjoying the show. Really, not all that doable even though it's relatively accessible as compared to say, oh, the Patriot Center. So for someone like me, 9:30 Club shows are still in the realm of possibility. Fillmore SS starts to be much more of a challenge. It's not that I am looking for reasons to hate. I'm looking for reasons to actually go and check it out, and I'm coming up a little short.
I know you like Cheap Trick!
Hey, I hear you... I don't think the lineup is great and its expensive.. still .. if someone gave me a free ticket to Thorogood, Cheap Trick, Trey or Primus I wouldn't complain! :)
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I've seen the Trick...love 'em. And I like Primus too. But I'm old and jaded ;-)
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"if i don't have to pay, i'll go" - now there's a ringing endorsement ;)
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it's like 5 miles or less from the DC line...
I have to say that you cannot get me to spend $54 and go out to Silver Spring to see a show that should realistically cost $30 and be a little more accessible. I don't know how most folks feel, but living in the city and working long hours, there's just no way I'm going to want to spend my time, energy and money that way. I want to be able to pop over and be there relatively quickly and not invest a ton of time getting to and from a venue. It's just too much hassle. And that's one of the benefits of living in a city. I guess the idea is to make the venue more accessible to people in the burbs, and draw bands that are likely going to appeal to folks who go to maybe a few shows a year and don't mind dropping $60 a pop on tickets? I dunno.
Make that about a 1,000 yards.
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"if i don't have to pay, i'll go" - now there's a ringing endorsement ;)
Well i'm a professional concertgoer so I like to work the angles..
;D
I've seen Trey, Cheap Trick and Thorogood..and I ain't paying $54 to see Primus.. not in this lifetime.
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Primus are worth maybe 1/3 of that now.
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You know how I likened this place to Walmart?
It's 2011, people, and we True Americans are stuck in a spiteful danse macabre with useless graduate degrees, debt ceiling hysteria, screaming Casey Anthony
news coverage, gold standards, Ichelle-May Achmann-Bay (don't say her name three times after midnight, and DEFINITELY not in a darkened bathroom with your
mom's Vanilla Escape candles burning eerily) and _________ (noun describing any shitty aspect of your life/society.) People are losing homes! People are
losing dignity! People are losing the AMERICAN DREAM!!
Until this week, that is. See, True American Brands? Ticketmaster and Walmart are teaming up to bring over-sized cat sweatshirts, concert tickets, a little
bit of old fashioned elbow grease, and low, low, LOW savings to your neighborhood! If there's a more perfect embodiment of the American Dream than the
newfound opportunity to purchase guns and discount garden gnomes at the same place you buy your $148 (+$76.85 shipping & handling) Creed tickets at a Ticketmaster?
kiosk inside your friendly, locally-sourced Walmart?, well then SLAP ME UP AND CALL ME A COMMUNIST, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
Recently, Ticketmaster CEO Nathan Hubbard traveled back to a time before Ticketmaster.com existed (1998? Can I get Cibo Matto tickets? Thanks.) to explain
how this True American Innovation? gives "fans this very convenient way to learn about upcoming events, purchase and take home tickets without leaving
their neighborhood." He also promises (threatens?) that "Ticketmaster will continue to work closely with our clients to create exclusive high value offers
for Walmart customers." Discount Scott Stapp lawn gnomes, anyone?
http://www.tinymixtapes.com/news/ticketmaster-walmart-team-join-four-horsemen-apocalypse
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Well then WHAT'S THIS LIFE FOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRR???
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Just a moment to vent...I tried buy tix to see Social Distortion w/Face to Face in Irvine. Done through Live Nation. I kept getting nosebleed seats so I'd throw them back and search again...after 13 minutes, Live Nation blocked me and I still cannot get in. I'll bet you everything in sections 1, 2, 3 and the pit will be available on Ebay or through ticket brokers. I'm so mad. Live Nation sucks.
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if you need a job, fillmore ss is having a job fair today and tomorrow.
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Just kidding.
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Wow. The screen had cut off your "Just kidding" remark, had to scroll down to see it.
Cold. Fucking cold.
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allright who is going to work there?
we need a mole..
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Backstory behind TC's Kastle date:
http://www.washingtonian.com/blogarticles/artsfun/afterhours/20448.html
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Backstory behind TC's Kastle date:
http://www.washingtonian.com/blogarticles/artsfun/afterhours/20448.html
lol - i beat you by 5 seconds: http://www.930.com/forum/index.php?topic=22290.0
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When will this place ever sell out a show? It looks as though they are pricing the ticket at the level scalpers would for 9:30 shows, even w/o any openers announced for a lot of their major acts. MJB for $100+ (no opener), John Legend for $80 (no opener), Bush+Chevelle (lol) for $50. There just is no appeal to me whatsoever.
I cant see this place succeeding in the short term, but I fear for the time when big acts are pulled every now and then from venues like 9:30 to FSS for a higher payout.
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they have sold out mjb, louis black and the dude from phish. hopefully the nitrous mafia will welcome the fillmore to dc.
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When will this place ever sell out a show? It looks as though they are pricing the ticket at the level scalpers would for 9:30 shows, even w/o any openers announced for a lot of their major acts. MJB for $100+ (no opener), John Legend for $80 (no opener), Bush+Chevelle (lol) for $50. There just is no appeal to me whatsoever.
I cant see this place succeeding in the short term, but I fear for the time when big acts are pulled every now and then from venues like 9:30 to FSS for a higher payout.
Until they have relevant acts that aren't crappy alternative bands from the 90's or washed up R+B acts, the place will never sell out.
It's going to take some indie darling act that gets sucked away from DAR to the Fillmore to sell it out.
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they have sold out mjb, louis black and the dude from phish. hopefully the nitrous mafia will welcome the fillmore to dc.
didn't realize they sold out. they dont list the shows as sold out on their site.
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for the opening night MJB show i'm wondering what percentage of the crowd is the paying public, vs. friends of Leggett, members of MoCo council, LN croonies, etc.
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they have sold out mjb, louis black and the dude from phish. hopefully the nitrous mafia will welcome the fillmore to dc.
didn't realize they sold out. they dont list the shows as sold out on their site.
Quite surprised Trey sold out, but that's good news. Didn't sell out the 930 the last time he was there until a day or two before the show and then the place was empty due to the blizzard.
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they have sold out mjb, louis black and the dude from phish. hopefully the nitrous mafia will welcome the fillmore to dc.
didn't realize they sold out. they dont list the shows as sold out on their site.
Because you probably can still get tickets via their "secondary market".
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I cant see this place succeeding in the short term
they got a $4.5 million dollar hand-out from the county. they don't have to worry about filling the place.
"What bottom line?!?"
- LN spokeperson, when asked about the FSS's profitability
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the prices they are charging for tickets are very high but evidently its not keeping people away.. trey sold out and his price was about what phish charges..Trey's price was high. I'm still wondering how many tickets are they selling.. is it 1200 or 2000?
i think the Fillmore is tapping into a new market out there in MOntgomery County.. people who don't want to come into DC and are looking forward to what they see as a "low hassle/no danger" opportunity to see concerts in a small venue... other than the Fillmore what do they have? Merriwether is far, the Strathmore is for classical music or something...
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Not really a big fan of TC's music but kudos to them for going about that the way they did.
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Quite surprised Trey sold out, but that's good news. Didn't sell out the 930 the last time he was there until a day or two before the show and then the place was empty due to the blizzard.
I remember it being quite crowded on the floor. And no, I wasn't in an altered state.
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Quite surprised Trey sold out, but that's good news. Didn't sell out the 930 the last time he was there until a day or two before the show and then the place was empty due to the blizzard.
I remember it being quite crowded on the floor. And no, I wasn't in an altered state.
Yeah, I was shocked how crowded that show was despite the blizzard. I was expecting it to be empty but it didn't look like the snow deterred too many people.
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Quite surprised Trey sold out, but that's good news. Didn't sell out the 930 the last time he was there until a day or two before the show and then the place was empty due to the blizzard.
I remember it being quite crowded on the floor. And no, I wasn't in an altered state.
Maybe I was too altered to care as packed 930 shows usually annoy the hell out of me. ::)
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people who don't want to come into DC and are looking forward to what they see as a "low hassle/no danger" opportunity to see concerts in a small venue...
You mean all the old fogies for Bush, Filter and Chavelle? :D :D :D
I think you have a point, but this show makes me say maybe not. Maybe LN will go 9 old fogie shows and one bizarre show mixed in.
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A Bush/Chevelle/Filter show is as cutting edge as some folks are going to get. Let 'em stay in Montgomery County.
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Is the Filmore like the state fair with the shows they are booking? ;D
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so this is what this boils down to? people's perception of what is "good music" and what is not? and if said person doesn't like said music, then the venue sucks dick? pathetic. shut the fuck up and listen to what you like and stop caring what others think.
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great, just great
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so this is what this boils down to? people's perception of what is "good music" and what is not? and if said person doesn't like said music, then the venue sucks dick? pathetic. shut the fuck up and listen to what you like and stop caring what others think.
Good morning, kind sir.
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A Bush/Chevelle/Filter show is as cutting edge as some folks are going to get. Let 'em stay in Montgomery County.
I bet you live in the rough and tumble Columbia Heights or maybe even H Street Corridor!
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so this is what this boils down to? people's perception of what is "good music" and what is not? and if said person doesn't like said music, then the venue sucks dick? pathetic. shut the fuck up and listen to what you like and stop caring what others think.
Good morning, kind sir.
though you think i should leave again . . . you're starting to grow on me. i never knew you went to that trey show. i had tickets, was very excited, and had to miss the show due to weather. where i live, my road had barely been touched and our area was destroyed by the storm. i bitched forever about them not canceling, but it would seem that i was one of the few who missed. i still curl a lip into a sneer from missing that show.
this time around, i'm heading to c-ville to see trey. i do like that venue, i love c-ville, and it takes the same amount of time to get there from here than it does to dc.
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I bet you live in the rough and tumble Columbia Heights or maybe even H Street Corridor!
Nice try. I live in Montgomery County.
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so this is what this boils down to? people's perception of what is "good music" and what is not? and if said person doesn't like said music, then the venue sucks dick? pathetic. shut the fuck up and listen to what you like and stop caring what others think.
Good morning, kind sir.
though you think i should leave again . . . you're starting to grow on me. i never knew you went to that trey show. i had tickets, was very excited, and had to miss the show due to weather. where i live, my road had barely been touched and our area was destroyed by the storm. i bitched forever about them not canceling, but it would seem that i was one of the few who missed. i still curl a lip into a sneer from missing that show.
this time around, i'm heading to c-ville to see trey. i do like that venue, i love c-ville, and it takes the same amount of time to get there from here than it does to dc.
After nine years at 17th and U and having the club stumbling distance, I now live in Silver Spring, so I'm hoping the Fillmore gets some decent acts.
Where do you live?
You'd be surprised how many Phish shows I've seen. :o
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gas prices are killing me
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so this is what this boils down to? people's perception of what is "good music" and what is not? and if said person doesn't like said music, then the venue sucks dick? pathetic. shut the fuck up and listen to what you like and stop caring what others think.
Good morning, kind sir.
though you think i should leave again . . . you're starting to grow on me. i never knew you went to that trey show. i had tickets, was very excited, and had to miss the show due to weather. where i live, my road had barely been touched and our area was destroyed by the storm. i bitched forever about them not canceling, but it would seem that i was one of the few who missed. i still curl a lip into a sneer from missing that show.
this time around, i'm heading to c-ville to see trey. i do like that venue, i love c-ville, and it takes the same amount of time to get there from here than it does to dc.
Charlottesville isn't that great, I know ;D
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so this is what this boils down to? people's perception of what is "good music" and what is not? and if said person doesn't like said music, then the venue sucks dick? pathetic. shut the fuck up and listen to what you like and stop caring what others think.
Good morning, kind sir.
though you think i should leave again . . . you're starting to grow on me. i never knew you went to that trey show. i had tickets, was very excited, and had to miss the show due to weather. where i live, my road had barely been touched and our area was destroyed by the storm. i bitched forever about them not canceling, but it would seem that i was one of the few who missed. i still curl a lip into a sneer from missing that show.
this time around, i'm heading to c-ville to see trey. i do like that venue, i love c-ville, and it takes the same amount of time to get there from here than it does to dc.
After nine years at 17th and U and having the club stumbling distance, I now live in Silver Spring, so I'm hoping the Fillmore gets some decent acts.
Where do you live?
You'd be surprised how many Phish shows I've seen. :o
Surprised Walkies didn't connect your handle to the similar one on PT. Then again, I have no idea if he spends much time on there.
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Walky has given up on Phish and give them the stink eye, he is now a Widespread fan, or so I thought ;D
(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/funny-pictures-the-feline-stink-eye.jpg)
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J. Cole
10.19
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sometimes the powers of wml7 . . . are overwhelming. nice. ;D
and i only visit that phish board every so often to keep up with the me generation and this whole new computer contact revolution. i never pay attention to names of posters, because i don't want to get that involved.
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so this is what this boils down to? people's perception of what is "good music" and what is not? and if said person doesn't like said music, then the venue sucks dick? pathetic. shut the fuck up and listen to what you like and stop caring what others think.
Good morning, kind sir.
though you think i should leave again . . . you're starting to grow on me. i never knew you went to that trey show. i had tickets, was very excited, and had to miss the show due to weather. where i live, my road had barely been touched and our area was destroyed by the storm. i bitched forever about them not canceling, but it would seem that i was one of the few who missed. i still curl a lip into a sneer from missing that show.
this time around, i'm heading to c-ville to see trey. i do like that venue, i love c-ville, and it takes the same amount of time to get there from here than it does to dc.
After nine years at 17th and U and having the club stumbling distance, I now live in Silver Spring, so I'm hoping the Fillmore gets some decent acts.
Where do you live?
You'd be surprised how many Phish shows I've seen. :o
i enjoy living in the country. john denver wasn't a liar. i live out in the wild frontiers of the beautiful, virginia shenandoah valley, sorta near a town called woodstock. i think it is funny there is a woodstock, virginia. i've been seeing phish since i think 1999, but i would have to get out the old tickets to figure out the number of shows i've seen. and yes, i am slipping into the ways of widespread panic, and i know of the rift in the sea of hatred toward panic from phish fans . . . which i have never understood. i never understand band hatred. all artists should be praised even if you hate their art.
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" i've been seeing phish since i think 1999"
gneub!! ;D
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yeah . . . i came into phish "late" after years of listening to nothing but the sex pistols, the dead kennedys, the dead milkmen, and jesus jones. yeah, you know jesus jones rocks!
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Ziggy Marley
Sunday, October 30
Tickets on sale Friday, August 26th at 10AM
$30.00 Ticket + US $8.00 Fees
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9-21/9-22
Deadmau5
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you know . . . i will say this about the whole deadmau5 vs daft punk thing. mouse head seems to make himself more accessible to the fans than robot heads. would the almighty daft punk play small clubs or allow fans to retool the look of your mascot?
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i enjoy living in the country. john denver wasn't a liar.
No. He WAS! "That John Denver's full of shit, man."
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yeah . . . i came into phish "late" after years of listening to nothing but the sex pistols, the dead kennedys, the dead milkmen, and jesus jones. yeah, you know jesus jones rocks!
They DID! Can't you tell by now that "Welcome Back, Victoria/The Devil You Know" are my personal manifestos?
Brian
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9-21/9-22
Deadmau5
Source? I can't find any mention in my usual spots...
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I thought the whole point of this venue was so we could all be blessed by shows like Noel Gallagher? ::)
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i thought it was to capitalize on a brand name . . . that used to be considered something special.
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I thought the whole point of this venue was so we could all be blessed by shows like Noel Gallagher? ::)
That would be cool. I'm driving to Philly to see the Noel gig.
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Where are the "rock en Espanol" shows?
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Where are the "rock en Espanol" shows?
so far zilch... they haven't opened yet though..
but yea.. so far its 930 1 (molotov) fillmore 0
i just don't get it .. we don't even get frickin' manu chao..
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Wonder if this guy is in the Filmore demographic:
http://gizmodo.com/5836509/furious-drunk-man-attacks-motorist-with-live-power-line
Yee Ha!
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Where are the "rock en Espanol" shows?
so far zilch... they haven't opened yet though..
but yea.. so far its 930 1 (molotov) fillmore 0
i just don't get it .. we don't even get frickin' manu chao..
do you think there is any chance - ANY CHANCE - that market forces are at play here (AKA no money to be made)? or just plain scheduling conflicts (AKA many tours skip DC)?
not everything is conspiracy and cosmic injustice...
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Where are the "rock en Espanol" shows?
so far zilch... they haven't opened yet though..
but yea.. so far its 930 1 (molotov) fillmore 0
i just don't get it .. we don't even get frickin' manu chao..
do you think there is any chance - ANY CHANCE - that market forces are at play here (AKA no money to be made)? or just plain scheduling conflicts (AKA many tours skip DC)?
not everything is conspiracy and cosmic injustice...
No. There is no chance.
THere is no chance that market forces determine Manu CHao plays Philly and not DC
I mean think about how large the hispanic and international community is? And we dont' even get Manu Chao?
Its just an example. There is a chance Manu just doesn't want to play DC.. We never know anything with absolute certainty but overall DC does not get the number of Latin shows it should and often they are booked in venues too small/overcroweded.. sometimes the wrong acts are booked and nobody even goes.
And I didn']t say it was an injustice of a conspiracy did I? Why you trying to start someting? bored or something?
Its just people who don't quite understand the Latin music market/demographic or know how to reach out the community. Is that so startling?
I mean shit dude I was perfectly content to concede Azaghal's point so whats your problem ?
I mean really sweetcell is your point that IMP should promote 1 latin rock show a year? you think that represents the demographics of the city it "serves"? Please. Think before you write.
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There are plenty of bands/acts that should have been booked in DC a long time ago:
Charly Garcia, Andres Calamaro, Babasonicos
These are big names.. maybe not to you but to hundreds of millions people.
And not everything is about the bottom line.. most shows are..but we all know the 930 books certain shows just because..because of history..because of relationship..because Seth or whoever just woke up feeling like it...
IMP should make more of an effort to book Latin Rock acts.. thats a fact jack.
There is a history here sweetcell .. i doubt you know much about it.. of bands like Los Fabulosos Cadillacts NOT beeing booked at 930..instead playing Club Five (sellout).. or Gustavo Cerati - maybe most important Latin rocker until his recent stroke- playing the State Theatre (sellout)..Los Autenticos Decadentes (State Theatre, show did well/Black Cat [way oversold]), Enanitos Verdes (State Theatre twice in last two years)
The 930 has never booked these acts.. my guess is they don't have someone who understands this market/demographic/whatever....thats all it is.
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If there are local venues booking these 'rock en espanol' acts already (state theater) what's the problem? Do you also want 9:30 and the FSS to book more Legwarmers shows even though they play the state all the time?
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If there are local venues booking these 'rock en espanol' acts already (state theater) what's the problem? Do you also want 9:30 and the FSS to book more Legwarmers shows even though they play the state all the time?
Geez, one guy is "if they are not booking them it must be cause there's no money" and the next guy is "if there are already people booking them whats the problem"
There are two issues
1. The 930 Club and IMP are in DC as such they should somewhat reflect/cater to the diverse community/area they serve. For example recently I noticed the 930 had a show by Ethiopian musicians.. I thought that was fantastic. well there are hundreds of thousands of hispanics in this area and yet you hardly ever see IMP booking any concerts for them... to me thats a problem. there should be more than one show a year of Latin rock!
2. There are plenty of latin rock shows-that are not getting booked in DC even though the market is there/here. I'm sure some jackass will go "If you want to book them why don't you do it yourself?" Um.. I'm not running a club in DC, jerky.
I can see that this would not be a big priority for many people but I don't think its the right way of serving the community and I will continue to call IMP out on it.
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Did IMP start taking public funding or something?
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Charly Garcia, Andres Calamaro, Babasonicos
Hey Seth?
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Did IMP start taking public funding or something?
You dont' have to take public funding to serve the public do you?
By the way I'm sure IMP appreciates my feedback. Not sure what you clowns are trying to prove? Maybe your ignorance of other cultures?
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If it such an untapped gold mine of a market, why don't you start promoting some shows?
As a private enterprise, I don't see how IMP has any responsibility to provide musical selections in-line with the area's demographic if they choose not to. Does Ben's Chili Bowl have a responsibility to serve the public good by serving burritos two days a week?
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If it such an untapped gold mine of a market, why don't you start promoting some shows?
As a private enterprise, I don't see how IMP has any responsibility to provide musical selections in-line with the area's demographic if they choose not to. Does Ben's Chili Bowl have a responsibility to serve the public good by serving burritos two days a week?
This is ludicrous. Of course they have a responsibility - within reason- to cater to the community they operate in. What if the 930/IMP NEVER had a black musician play in spite of the fact they are located in DC?
By the way I don't think you are reading the posts you are responding to- TRY TO READ BEFORE POSTING REPLIES- I answered your untapped goldmine remark above.
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So your answer is "yes, Ben's Chili Bowl has a responsibility to serve Salvadoran andd Ethiopian food."
Got it. Carry on.
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So your answer is "yes, Ben's Chili Bowl has a responsibility to serve Salvadoran andd Ethiopian food."
Got it. Carry on.
Sorry, that analogy is a non-starter.
Ben's serves the community of people in DC who love half smokes, chilli fries etc
Presumably the 930 and IMP serve the community that loves live music.
Get it?
By the way I don't eat burritos, asshole.
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did i even really read the past comments on music of a south of the border flavor to it, that people are making here? if folks who are into any type of music want that music to be around, it will play somewhere and you can go see it. money will be made and everyone is happy. if the music becomes big, i mean like dead milkmen big . . . they'll play at better spots. more expensive beers and not as good food. do you really want that?
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did i even really read the past comments on music of a south of the border flavor to it, that people are making here? if folks who are into any type of music want that music to be around, it will play somewhere and you can go see it. money will be made and everyone is happy. if the music becomes big, i mean like dead milkmen big . . . they'll play at better spots. more expensive beers and not as good food. do you really want that?
Its not south of the border..its rock..just spanish singing.
A rock club/promoter like IMP should include that among their bookings
its not good enough to say "OH someone else will do it...."
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did i even really read the past comments on music of a south of the border flavor to it, that people are making here? if folks who are into any type of music want that music to be around, it will play somewhere and you can go see it. money will be made and everyone is happy. if the music becomes big, i mean like dead milkmen big . . . they'll play at better spots. more expensive beers and not as good food. do you really want that?
Its not south of the border..its rock..just spanish singing.
A rock club/promoter like IMP should include that among their bookings
its not good enough to say "OH someone else will do it...."
see . . . i told you i didn't really read was was talking around. spanish speaking music. what is that? is the music spanish, or death metal. that would be interesting.
nevermind, i just realized that i once owned a death metal, spanish group cd . . . that had a guy with his head cut off from a train accident and these two other guys are just standing there loking at it. music is bizarre.
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perhaps I can shed some light on this...
most of the stuff we book is the result of bands' representatives calling us
sometimes I'll wonder why I haven't gotten a call yet on something that's right in my wheelhouse, or see that it's playing in NYC from reading the Voice, and make the call, but most of the time I don't have to seek it out...it finds us (and the other clubs here)
but, yes, I know zero about Rock en Espanol and haven't really had a necessity to learn, as our calendar is pretty full with stuff that we do know
we do check out every availability we get, and I certainly would never dismiss any genre out of hand, unless I do know the act and think they suck...and, of course, we even book some of those if I think it fits 930 and people want to see them
but the fact is that nobody ever calls us about this stuff
that all being said, I will check out the suggestions, and appreciate everyone pointing us in that direction
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THanks Seth.
Thats just exactly what I figured.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/click-track/post/the-fillmore-arrives-in-silver-spring/2011/09/09/gIQAr2FKFK_blog.html#pagebreak
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Gawd, an $11 million taxpayer gift to a corporate behemoth like Live Nation. Nice job, Ike.
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After lots of "HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT AT MIDNIGHT" hype on their Facebook page, they announced two Deadmau5 shows (Sept. 21 & 22).
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After lots of "HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT AT MIDNIGHT" hype on their Facebook page, they announced two Deadmau5 shows (Sept. 21 & 22).
$50 + $9 in Fees.
HAHAHA.
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Did IMP start taking public funding or something?
You dont' have to take public funding to serve the public do you?
By the way I'm sure IMP appreciates my feedback. Not sure what you clowns are trying to prove? Maybe your ignorance of other cultures?
Maybe they are trying prove your ignorance to the music business?
Anybody see Sergeant Garcia at Black Cat last week?
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Did you go? That show sounds like a lot of fun (it conflicted with the Swans show last thursday or I would have gone)
Did IMP start taking public funding or something?
You dont' have to take public funding to serve the public do you?
By the way I'm sure IMP appreciates my feedback. Not sure what you clowns are trying to prove? Maybe your ignorance of other cultures?
Maybe they are trying prove your ignorance to the music business?
Anybody see Sergeant Garcia at Black Cat last week?
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Did you go? That show sounds like a lot of fun (it conflicted with the Swans show last thursday or I would have gone)
Yeah, it was lots of fun. I've always liked his blend of music. I'm hoping this tour gets him more recognition over here so we get more in the future. I've always thought he flies under the US radar.
It was my first experience with the Empresarios. Those cats are hot as well.
It appears they have an EP release party show Friday to check out and support the DC Latin flavor.
http://empresariosmusic.com/ (http://empresariosmusic.com/)
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I am super curious to see how this Childish Gambino show turns out at the Fillmore. He was great at Black Cat, but thatttts a bit of a jump venuewise.
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Did IMP start taking public funding or something?
You dont' have to take public funding to serve the public do you?
By the way I'm sure IMP appreciates my feedback. Not sure what you clowns are trying to prove? Maybe your ignorance of other cultures?
Maybe they are trying prove your ignorance to the music business?
Actually I was dead on. Read Seth's reply.
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Actually I was dead on. Read Seth's reply.
you complained that no one was booking spanish language acts. seth said that they never contacted him, unlike other bands out there. help me out here - how were you "dead on"?
to me, this did somewhat prove your lack of knowledge of the music business: at no point did you mention that this might be the band's fault (or their management's). IMO the way you pointed out that other venues book spanish acts and they sell really well, while the 930 doesn't, seemed to imply your belief in something sinister - conspiracy, lack of respect, racism, etc. (that last bit is purely my interpretation of your words).
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Did anyone go to the open house at The Fillmore last night? What did you think?
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for sweetcell the douche WHO NEEDS TO LEARN HOW TO READ.. AND WHY THE ANGER BRO? ;D
Re: Fillmore SS Shows
« Reply #125 on: September 01, 2011, 01:08:17 PM »
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And I didn']t say it was an injustice of a conspiracy did I? Why you trying to start someting? bored or something?
Its just people who don't quite understand the Latin music market/demographic or know how to reach out the community. Is that so startling?
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Seth's reply- again for Sweetcell the douche:
"but, yes, I know zero about Rock en Espanol and haven't really had a necessity to learn, as our calendar is pretty full with stuff that we do know
we do check out every availability we get, and I certainly would never dismiss any genre out of hand, unless I do know the act and think they suck...and, of course, we even book some of those if I think it fits 930 and people want to see them
but the fact is that nobody ever calls us about this stuff
that all being said, I will check out the suggestions, and appreciate everyone pointing us in that direction"
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Bottom line is the 930/IMP should learn a bit about the Latin rock music and try to book a few shows in that segment..
I'm confident they'll do that.. Lack of knowledge of the market is no excuse.. IMP can learn about it and reach out/develop/deepen relations in this growing segment..
Like I said I'm sure they will...Heck Seth said he appreciated the suggestions and would look into it!
Sweetcell tries to say I'm saying there is some conspiracy (like what? That they are racist?) by putting words in my mouth - purely his interpretation as he says (DOUCHE)..\
Is it frustrating for latin rock fans that a lot of these acts aren't playing DC- not so much because the market isnt here- but more because there is market failure.. you bet. Manu Chao is only the latest example.. I could be wrong but I think he was even in DC last week at NPR but no DC show.
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i'm not mad. i am trying to have a discussion but possibly i'm attempting to do so with the wrong person.
i am also intrigued by your sense of entitlement:
Bottom line is the 930/IMP should learn a bit about the Latin rock music and try to book a few shows in that segment..
it's not their job to learn about latin music, or any other music - as seth pointed out, more than enough people come to him. if those bands want to play the 930, they need to make the first move. the 930 doesn't book opera either but it's very popular and sells well at other venues.
the alternative, which you are attempting, is to get the management's attention and request artists. good idea, and seth appreciated the suggestion, but this will have a lower chance of success IMO. the club already gets a lot of offers - but you're asking them to put aside what they know and what they have worked with in the past, in order to research a new market and start making new contacts? might happen but i wouldn't bet on it.
you still haven't shown how you were "dead on" (yet you say i should learn to read... nice one).
and thanks for the name-calling. definitely bolsters your argument.
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Actually I was dead on. Read Seth's reply.
you complained that no one was booking spanish language acts. seth said that they never contacted him, unlike other bands out there. help me out here - how were you "dead on"?
to me, this did somewhat prove your lack of knowledge of the music business: at no point did you mention that this might be the band's fault (or their management's). IMO the way you pointed out that other venues book spanish acts and they sell really well, while the 930 doesn't, seemed to imply your belief in something sinister - conspiracy, lack of respect, racism, etc. (that last bit is purely my interpretation of your words).
+1 to above.
Also...
ATERCIOPELADOS 10/6 at State Theater
JULIETA VENEGAS 11/09 at State Theater
Maybe MN8 is happy booking at the State Theater?
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i thought the open house was today 9/13. but you had to go to the fillmore on 9/10 to get tickets to go to the open house on 9/13. and those tickets were all given away on 9/10. nothing is ever easy.
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WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT LATIN ROCK???
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I didn't go, but I will say that it sucked.
:D
Did anyone go to the open house at The Fillmore last night? What did you think?
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i thought the open house was today 9/13. but you had to go to the fillmore on 9/10 to get tickets to go to the open house on 9/13. and those tickets were all given away on 9/10. nothing is ever easy.
hmmm - They may have done both. The one I was thinking of was definitely on Monday, with tickets given out Monday at noon.
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=256959681003985
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WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT LATIN ROCK???
i do, depending on the act. i've seen some great performances by Mana, Manu Chao and Cafe Tacuba.
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whats the difference between the $40 and $50 tickets?
i'm assuming floor vs. balcony.
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WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT LATIN ROCK???
i do, depending on the act. i've seen some great performances by Mana, Manu Chao and Cafe Tacuba.
Mana? Thats funny..
Its fine if people think the 930 is a rental facility with no obligation to book/seek diverse acts that reflect the city they are in...
Per Seth's post I'll just send him my suggestions and links to artist management were available.
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I hate to ruin some folks' fairyland perception of the music biz, but a support act is booked to sell tickets
playing the next night for less kind of defeats the purpose
IT IS A BUSINESS
THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
BABIES COME FROM THE STORK
well, at least that's how that last one was explained to me
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I hate to ruin some folks' fairyland perception of the music biz, but a support act is booked to sell tickets
playing the next night for less kind of defeats the purpose
IT IS A BUSINESS
THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
BABIES COME FROM THE STORK
well, at least that's how that last one was explained to me
Half the people posting on this thread aren't actually reading the comments.. there's money to be made in Latin Rock..
The idea that booking Latin Rock would be some sort of charity act is insulting..
In fact many of the comments on this thread are insulting.. the comment by Yada about who cares about Latin Rock... the burrito coment..
Its not terribly suprising but sad.
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hutch, there was a good "latin" act last thursday at the black cat, did you go to that? ::)
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Was it Jose Gonzales?
hutch, there was a good "latin" act last thursday at the black cat, did you go to that? ::)
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hutch, there was a good "latin" act last thursday at the black cat, did you go to that? ::)
why the roll eyes!?
I bought a ticket but could not go cause our basement massively flooded.. still dealing with that (also missed virgin freeffest)..do you want me to send you a copy of the ticket? ::)
But obviously I don't go to every latin rock show.. .i go to the ones by artists i like much like anyone would do..
I have the new Sergent Garcia cd.. bought it in order to know the songs for the show..its good but its not as good as the Quemar cd... i'm real sad to have missed it.. my next latin rock show is andres calamaro in new york city.. have to go up there cause it was not booked in dc.. and thats ok.. dc is not going to book every show..
The Cucu Diamantes cd from last year is amazing though....if anyone likes Latin music you owe it to yourself to check it out..its sort of slipped by people and can be had pretty inexpensively used on amazon..
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Also, Molotov are playing the club....if they are your thing.
See, "latin" acts are booked by both venues.
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I hate to ruin some folks' fairyland perception of the music biz, but a support act is booked to sell tickets
playing the next night for less kind of defeats the purpose
IT IS A BUSINESS
THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
BABIES COME FROM THE STORK
well, at least that's how that last one was explained to me
Half the people posting on this thread aren't actually reading the comments.. there's money to be made in Latin Rock..
The idea that booking Latin Rock would be some sort of charity act is insulting..
In fact many of the comments on this thread are insulting.. the comment by Yada about who cares about Latin Rock... the burrito coment..
Its not terribly suprising but sad.
I agree with you in that there is money to be made, and it wouldn't be a charity act. But that in no way means 9:30 is required to book it. It's a venue, they can book whatever they want, whenever. They don't book the same generic rock acts as FSS, and in no way are they required to.
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Los Campesinos!
Was it Jose Gonzales?
hutch, there was a good "latin" act last thursday at the black cat, did you go to that? ::)
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Your mama
Was it Jose Gonzales?
hutch, there was a good "latin" act last thursday at the black cat, did you go to that? ::)
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Also, Molotov are playing the club....if they are your thing.
See, "latin" acts are booked by both venues.
I did not say the 930 never booked latin rock.. almost never though..
Molotov are not my thing.
Black Cat actually does a fairly good job with latin rock.. probably because MN8 the promoter prefers to use them? not sure why.. they completely oversold the Autenticos Decadentes show
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I hate to ruin some folks' fairyland perception of the music biz, but a support act is booked to sell tickets
playing the next night for less kind of defeats the purpose
IT IS A BUSINESS
THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
BABIES COME FROM THE STORK
well, at least that's how that last one was explained to me
Half the people posting on this thread aren't actually reading the comments.. there's money to be made in Latin Rock..
The idea that booking Latin Rock would be some sort of charity act is insulting..
In fact many of the comments on this thread are insulting.. the comment by Yada about who cares about Latin Rock... the burrito coment..
Its not terribly suprising but sad.
I agree with you in that there is money to be made, and it wouldn't be a charity act. But that in no way means 9:30 is required to book it. It's a venue, they can book whatever they want, whenever. They don't book the same generic rock acts as FSS, and in no way are they required to.
They are not legally required to book anything.. that is correct.
And if a venue never booked performances by black artists in DC well I guess they aren't required to do that either...
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They are not legally required to book anything.. that is correct.
And if a venue never booked performances by black artists in DC well I guess they aren't required to do that either...
Or by white artists ... and to top it off those joints are missing all that potential!
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Why are you WASTING your time with this? There are Scarlett Johansson pictures out there!
Brian
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Why are you WASTING your time with this? There are Scarlett Johansson pictures out there!
Brian
I don't know really.. it is like pushing a rock up a hill on this site.
all that happened is I pointed out the GM of Fillmore had said they'd have latin rock shows and I said that was a great idea because there was a vacumn and IMP was't booking them..some smartass pointed out a a few weeks later that there wasn't latin rock.. i said that was true and so far in fact it was imp 1 fillmore 0.. then i went into a tirade about how bullshit this was given all the major latin rock artists that were skipping dc.. i said IMP probably just didn't know the market etc.. seth confirmed pretty much the same.... someone told me to go eat burrito.
fucking crucify me shit...
i'm out on this.. certainly i'm out on this tallking about this on a thread about the fillmore...
i'll start my own rock en espanol/rock latino thread and watch it sink like a rock.
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I'm sorry. I was joking. I support your campaign for increased Latin music shows. Honestly. It can't be worse than another Wilco or Radiohead show.
Brian
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I'm sorry. I was joking. I support your campaign for increased Latin music shows. Honestly. It can't be worse than another Wilco or Radiohead show.
Brian
oh I wasn't talking about you! ;D
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but the Fillmore is getting some nice acts.. so lets go back to talking about that
;D
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930 vs FSS:
http://www.silverspringsingular.com/2011/09/fillmore-vs-930-club-comparison.html
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930 vs FSS:
http://www.silverspringsingular.com/2011/09/fillmore-vs-930-club-comparison.html
the pix from the linked photo gallery (http://www.washingtonian.com/PhotoGallery/393.html) make me think that the designers were very much inspired by the 930.
they even serve paninis - seth, call the lawyers!!!
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the real question here is will my car be broken into and will i get shot walking out of which venue?
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Who's got tickets this week? Any early reads on the venue?
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Who's got tickets this week? Any early reads on the venue?
you didn't hear about the 930 boardie boycott of the Fillmore?!
:o
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Well, I wasn't expecting many takers on MaryJ. but Dead Mau5?
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I would see Mary J way way way before subjecting myself to that Deadmau5 garbage again.
I still want that 15 minutes back.
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Well, I wasn't expecting many takers on MaryJ. but Dead Mau5?
deadmau5 at 930 = entertaining, technologically savvy, fun show
deadmau5 at Fillmore = your favorite douchebag's favorite douchebag, capitalizing on void left by daft punk, pandering with the obvious and derivative . . .past point of being interesting.
Context is key
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According to the City Paper article from yesterday, they will be teaming with BYT to bring the crapalicious local bands BYT promote to Silver Spring.
Match made in bland music heaven.
Local tuesday with The Dance Party, US Royalty and Last Tide!
ugh.
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Cheap Trick postponed until Nov. 11. Same night as Foo Fighters. Awesome. >:(
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Little Feat
12/31
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Little Feat
12/31
Given their deep pockes, I would have thought they could pull something better for New Years Eve.
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Little Feat
12/31
Given their deep pockes, I would have thought they could pull something better for New Years Eve.
Really. They pretty much manage to keep out-laming themselves with each new booking.
If no one else has reported with the venue is actually like, I'll give my thoughts on it after the Primus show on Saturday.
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for the certain crowd, of many generation old . . . little feat is a rare, awesome surprise!
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Little Feat
12/31
Given their deep pockes, I would have thought they could pull something better for New Years Eve.
Really. They pretty much manage to keep out-laming themselves with each new booking.
Little Feat is a much better band than most of the flavor of the month nonsense that rolls through the 9:30 Club.
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so you'll actually be going then?
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Their bio says they've had a female lead singer since 2007. Is that the surprise?
for the certain crowd, of many generation old . . . little feat is a rare, awesome surprise!
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How is Little Feat rare or awesome?
Re: awesome - Yes, they put out some good records many decades ago, but have they done anything relevant since? Plus, the main creative force behind the band's good period is dead and replaced by some lame new front person. I think there are few other original members left. I don't see how that could be awesome even for old people.
Re: rare - I don't pay attention to them, but I think they show up at places like the Birchmere all the time. They must play live often because I'm sure they don't make their money selling records these days. I did see Little Feat for a bit a couple of years ago because they were playing at a small waterfront festival in Alexandria that we went to for other reasons (activities for kids). That festival was either free of cost a couple of dollars to get into. and I heard a bit of Little Feat and it sucked, and not that many people were even watching it.
Also, fatskippy, while the 9:30 does get some of what you could call the flavor of the month, if you think that term accurately sums up 9:30's booking, then you know very little about music.
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Also, fatskippy, while the 9:30 does get some of what you could call the flavor of the month, if you think that term accurately sums up 9:30's booking, then you know very little about music.
I'm not summing up anything. 9:30 Club gets some great acts, they also get some acts infinitely more lame than Little Feat. Have fun at the Bangles.
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Owl City and two nights of Matt Nathanson
. 9:30 Club gets some great acts, they also get some acts infinitely more lame than Little Feat. .
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I think Little Feat is a pretty poor pull for their first NYE.. Its actually a typical State Theatre show...
So far the Fillmore seems to be cornering the market on has beens...
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Oh, please. Little Feat is no jewel in FSS's tarnished crown. They just want you to think they are and hope that you suckered up enough to pay for over-priced tickets. Seems they play the Bottle & Cork about once a year and that place is small. Only look at their calendar occasionally or when I drive by because they never ever book anything I have the slightest interest in seeing. Though I know they have their fans, I could never stand Little Feat. Their music makes me seasick. Sounds like it was pressed on the disc off-center. Music for drunken old farts.
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Also, fatskippy, while the 9:30 does get some of what you could call the flavor of the month, if you think that term accurately sums up 9:30's booking, then you know very little about music.
I'm not summing up anything. 9:30 Club gets some great acts, they also get some acts infinitely more lame than Little Feat. Have fun at the Bangles.
You said "most of what rolls through the 9:30," sounds like summing it up to me.
Based on the booking of the Fillmore thus far, I might end there once or twice a year versus ending up at the 9:30 club 25 to 30 times a year. Hopefully they are not trying to target my demographic, because if they are, they suck at it.
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The way the SS Fillmore is going, I might never end up out there.
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Also, fatskippy, while the 9:30 does get some of what you could call the flavor of the month, if you think that term accurately sums up 9:30's booking, then you know very little about music.
I'm not summing up anything. 9:30 Club gets some great acts, they also get some acts infinitely more lame than Little Feat. Have fun at the Bangles.
You said "most of what rolls through the 9:30," sounds like summing it up to me.
Based on the booking of the Fillmore thus far, I might end there once or twice a year versus ending up at the 9:30 club 25 to 30 times a year. Hopefully they are not trying to target my demographic, because if they are, they suck at it.
I said most of the flavor of the month bands, which a lot of them are. Was there any discussion when 9:30 booked Matt & Kim, one of the worst bands of all time?
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The way the SS Fillmore is going, I might never end up out there.
I have to say as a resident now of Silver Spring, I'm beyond disappointed in the shows there.
I was hoping I could make it at least once a month to a show there. Oh well...
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Now you have $70 more per month to spend on something else. I suggest my kid's 529 fund.
The way the SS Fillmore is going, I might never end up out there.
I have to say as a resident now of Silver Spring, I'm beyond disappointed in the shows there.
I was hoping I could make it at least once a month to a show there. Oh well...
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Depends. Does he like the Beatles?
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Everybody likes the Beatles, at least a little bit. Except for alt/indie rock loving assholes who think claiming they hate the Beatles makes them cool.
But she's more likely to sing along to a Trombone Shorty album than a Beatles album. Simpler lyrics.
Depends. Does he like the Beatles?
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I don't hate the Beatles because I think it makes me cool. I hate the fucking Beatles because I hate the fucking Beatles.
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I don't think anyone has commented on what it's like inside, so here's my report if anyone is intersted.
It's a really nice venue in many ways. They actually tried to make it look like the Fillmore in SF to some degree (red curtains, same chandeliers). It's got a similar setup to the 9:30 with a balcony that wraps around. The middle of the balcony has a couple tiers of tables and chairs, which remided me of the VIP section at The National, then there is a bar at the back behind that. On the sides of the balcony, there are a couple of tiers, then a second railing, then three more tiers. The tiers are steeper than at the 9:30, meaning that the sightlines are probably a bit better from the upper tiers.
The sound was very good, and the staff were friendly and well organized. It also seemed pretty comfortable for a sold out show and not too packed at all. On that one aspect, I think it was better than the 9:30, which just feels slammed when it is sold out. The venue didn't really feel much bigger to me than the 9:30. Maybe it fits more people upstairs, but the floor itself didn't seem much bigger.
Also, the Phantasy Tour folks will probably be pleased to know that they don't seem to care if people smoke weed, so they should be good to go for the Trey show.
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Sightlines from the upper parts of the balcony are essentially nonexistant. There's a walkway in between some of the steps as opposed to behind.
Because of the width of floor I also thought there were lots of spots where the sound wasn't good at all.
Lots and lots of wasted space.
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good to know that you can smoke weed at the ss fillmore. it is really hard to get away with smoking weed at 930.
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guess i should just lock this thread now....
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Why?
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I heard they use rent-a-guards rather than their own security.
Probably why the security cares little about weed smoke.
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no way thats going to last!
they're really hard core at the 930.. i will say that.. follow people into the bathroom.. open the bathroom door and look in then move on..
i don't like it.
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they're really hard core at the 930.. i will say that.. follow people into the bathroom.. open the bathroom door and look in then move on...
If that's the case, then that is completely over the top and unnecessary. The first time someone opens the bathroom door on me taking a shit at a music venue and they happen to be an employee, someone's getting sued...or at least fired.
The most draconian I've ever seen a venue when it came to people smoking dope inside was St. Andrew's in Detroit. Of all places, you'd think that dump in a dump would tolerate it, but no. Guy three feet in front of me was physically removed from the floor and removed from the building via no gentle ways for "suspicion" of marijuana smoking. This was before the smoking ban. It was awful.
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I'm sorry.. I meant open the door to the men's bathroom AREA not the specific johns...
they are hard core and maybe thats ok.. the law is the law...
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I went to the Fillmore on Saturday and was not impressed. First off the sight lines are horrible. The stage is too low, I'm 6'5 and couldn't see much from the floor. So we went up to the balcony and found out that you can't see shit up their either. The sides are way too deep, all you can see are heads in front of you. We eventually found a spot behind the VIP section in the back where you could see half the stage, but then the tables filled up and the view was gone. Next time I'm showing up even earlier and grabbing one of the front row spots on the side balcony.
Second, if you open a tab at one of the bars, you have to go back to the exact same bartender, not just the same bar. How can they not have all the computers networked? This isn't new tech, I've been to numerous bars where they scan your credit card and you can go to any bartender.
It wasn't all negative, the club was comfortable, nice air circulation. Lots of bartenders, if you have cash it shouldn't take more than a minute or two to get a beer. For being a sold out show, it wasn't packed like 930 where you can't move.
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I'm sorry.. I meant open the door to the men's bathroom AREA not the specific johns...
they are hard core and maybe thats ok.. the law is the law...
I am fine with "vigorous enforcement" of the law. It's not Seth's fault, but the city can really make life hell for him if he crosses them in anyway. I just think if you're going to physically remove people from the premises for shit like this, you better damn well make sure you are getting the right people. As I said before, I've seen people removed from shows based on suspicion and that's bullshit.
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For being a sold out show, it wasn't packed like 930 where you can't move.
Maybe they are using a relaxed standard to define sellout to make it seem like there is greater interest
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I went to the Fillmore on Saturday and was not impressed. First off the sight lines are horrible. The stage is too low, I'm 6'5 and couldn't see much from the floor.
Really? At Blondie I had no problems seeing everything from the back of the floor - and I'm only 6'1" or so.
So we went up to the balcony and found out that you can't see shit up their either. The sides are way too deep, all you can see are heads in front of you.
That I definitely agree with. I went up there to check out the view and I couldn't see anything at all - and it wasn't even that crowded up there.
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oh thats terrible.. sight lines are the most important thing..why would you build a new venue with bad sight lines?
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Edit:Nothing to see here.
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Anybody know what time shows start there? If the schedule says 7:00 and there's no opener listed, what does that mean?
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For the P. Furs/Tom Tom Club the ticket said doors at 7:00. The website just said 8:00. Tom Tom Club came on at exactly 8:00 sharp.
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Went for the first time last night. It was nice to be at a sold out show and have some space to move, good sound, and sightlines from the floor. Horrendous beer selection though and they need more bartenders.
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First Groupon for a show, just went up :D Guess Jamey Johnson isn't selling so hot...
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i refuse to google that name. who is he/she? should i youtube?
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i refuse to google that name. who is he/she? should i youtube?
He's Country. Sounds like a youngish Waylon Jennings. Not bad if you like that sort of music. Heard him live for a few songs a few weeks ago and liked him much better than I had expected. Could have gone into the show but opted for the police escort home rather than having to then stand around in the rain waiting for a bus.
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First Groupon for a show, just went up :D Guess Jamey Johnson isn't selling so hot...
They've had multiple groupons already. Chromeo was one of them.
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First Groupon for a show, just went up :D Guess Jamey Johnson isn't selling so hot...
They've had multiple groupons already. Chromeo was one of them.
Speaking of Groupons, the first one worth a shit (in a while) came through my email today. Nandos Peri Peri!
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love nandos. i never know what the etiquette is there though, do you tip?
and to stay on topic: nandos peri peri > fillmore ss
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You should tip on the full amount of your meal, PRE groupon. IE, if you have a groupon for $20 and your bill comes to $40 (of which you'll pay the additional $20), you should tip on $40.
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love nandos. i never know what the etiquette is there though, do you tip?
and to stay on topic: nandos peri peri > fillmore ss
I always tip a couple of bucks.
I predict this place blows up nationwide over time. F'n delcious... And healthy!
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You should tip on the full amount of your meal, PRE groupon. IE, if you have a groupon for $20 and your bill comes to $40 (of which you'll pay the additional $20), you should tip on $40.
Don't think he was asking about the Living Social ettiquette, more the ettiquette of Nandos which has kind of a strange process for ordering, getting your food delivered, etc.
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I think you leave a few for the busboy, but not a full 20%.
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right, was asking specifically nandos etiquette. that seems about right.. for those who haven't been, it's a joint where you order your food at the counter, they give you a number, and they bring it out when it's ready. could also see this place blowing up, perfect combination of being fast, cheap, healthy and good for big groups.
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right, was asking specifically nandos etiquette. that seems about right.. for those who haven't been, it's a joint where you order your food at the counter, they give you a number, and they bring it out when it's ready. could also see this place blowing up, perfect combination of being fast, cheap, healthy and good for big groups.
they do that at hardees. and hardees fucking rules.
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Yeah, but I think Hardees hates hasidic jews, so eating there makes you a bigot.
right, was asking specifically nandos etiquette. that seems about right.. for those who haven't been, it's a joint where you order your food at the counter, they give you a number, and they bring it out when it's ready. could also see this place blowing up, perfect combination of being fast, cheap, healthy and good for big groups.
they do that at hardees. and hardees fucking rules.
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Yeah, but I think Hardees hates hasidic jews, so eating there makes you a bigot.
right, was asking specifically nandos etiquette. that seems about right.. for those who haven't been, it's a joint where you order your food at the counter, they give you a number, and they bring it out when it's ready. could also see this place blowing up, perfect combination of being fast, cheap, healthy and good for big groups.
they do that at hardees. and hardees fucking rules.
You also need an adult diaper while dining at Hardees.
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Yeah, but I think Hardees hates hasidic jews, so eating there makes you a bigot.
right, was asking specifically nandos etiquette. that seems about right.. for those who haven't been, it's a joint where you order your food at the counter, they give you a number, and they bring it out when it's ready. could also see this place blowing up, perfect combination of being fast, cheap, healthy and good for big groups.
they do that at hardees. and hardees fucking rules.
yeah, but hasidic jews hate women and think they aren't even human beings . . . so that just got trumped. frisco burgers for everybody.
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The ordering process at Nando's is like the one at Katz's. Makes little to no sense.
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Just talked to box office person at Fillmore as to whether there's going to be an opener for Warren Haynes on Saturday. Dude told me that they wouldn't know until Saturday. Consequently they have no idea when Haynes will play... sounds like a pretty strange way to run a venue to me?!
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must be all that pot smoking they allow in there.
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Nandos FTMFW!
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Just talked to box office person at Fillmore as to whether there's going to be an opener for Warren Haynes on Saturday. Dude told me that they wouldn't know until Saturday. Consequently they have no idea when Haynes will play... sounds like a pretty strange way to run a venue to me?!
That's not uncommon for venues to not know, especially when it comes to set times. The band usually has the say in that kind of stuff, so venues often don't know set times until the day of show.
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Just talked to box office person at Fillmore as to whether there's going to be an opener for Warren Haynes on Saturday. Dude told me that they wouldn't know until Saturday. Consequently they have no idea when Haynes will play... sounds like a pretty strange way to run a venue to me?!
Sorry, Bagman. At least you will soon have "Pho and Roll." ;D
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how much is the service charge at the box office?
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how much is the service charge at the box office?
I went to the show last night. The base ticket price before service charge online was $35. The face value of the ticket at the box office was $37.50. So they bumped the face value of the ticket $2.50.. Someone else in line had a face value of $33. And then they charge a dollar for processing. Not sure if they pull this move at every show.
I'm sure someone else mentioned this but you can only get one beer at a time too.. That was annoying, I couldn't get a beer for my friend while he held our spots on the floor. We had to make separate trips.
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how much is the service charge at the box office?
I'm sure someone else mentioned this but you can only get one beer at a time too.. That was annoying, I couldn't get a beer for my friend while he held our spots on the floor. We had to make separate trips.
oh my.. that is retarded.
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good for them. you can never trust anybody. just like scaplers. you got to stop the one trying to abuse the system somehow. i'm sure them loosing their license by an underage getting alcohol due to the old "two at a time rule" never questioned is more important than you caring.
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good for them. you can never trust anybody. just like scaplers. you got to stop the one trying to abuse the system somehow. i'm sure them loosing their license by an underage getting alcohol due to the old "two at a time rule" never questioned is more important than you caring.
Speak english my good man.. I have no idea what you are talking about.
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good for them. you can never trust anybody. just like scaplers. you got to stop the one trying to abuse the system somehow. i'm sure them loosing their license by an underage getting alcohol due to the old "two at a time rule" never questioned is more important than you caring.
They wouldn't let me bring up my friends license to the bar either. I get what your saying but there has to be a better system.
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mekmad understood
you, hutch, need to go back to gaybonics school.
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The one-per rule doesn't make sense if it is just in regard to underaged drinkers. Sure, a willing over-21 person can smuggle a whole beer to someone a no-drink wristband on the tight (if show is close to, over over, soldout) floor. But....the ID check at door--including a magnetic stripe scanner that could retain ID info or interact with a marketing or law enforcement or county database --makes it somewhat difficult for under-21 to get booze.
Yes, if there's-a-will-there's-a-way; the rule forbidding more than one drink is silly because it chops severely at liquor sales and satisfied customers while only barely attacking the issue of the underaged.
Anyone, btw, have comments on that ID-swiping device at the front door..... "100 % ID Check Mandatory"???
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The one-per rule doesn't make sense if it is just in regard to underaged drinkers. Sure, a willing over-21 person can smuggle a whole beer to someone a no-drink wristband on the tight (if show is close to, over over, soldout) floor. But....the ID check at door--including a magnetic stripe scanner that could retain ID info or interact with a marketing or law enforcement or county database --makes it somewhat difficult for under-21 to get booze.
Yes, if there's-a-will-there's-a-way; the rule forbidding more than one drink is silly because it chops severely at liquor sales and satisfied customers while only barely attacking the issue of the underaged.
Anyone, btw, have comments on that ID-swiping device at the front door..... "100 % ID Check Mandatory"???
The mandatory ID check with databases is a huge downer for me and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it.. I mean I mentioned it after going to see Ziggy Marley.... .I don't have any issues with the law myself but I just don't like it...
I doubt I'll go to more than a very rare show there when a friend is inviting me or something...this alcohol policy is also lame...imagine you are there in the middle of the floor with a friend and you want a drink.. you'd both have to go or take turns going to the bar.. thats LAME...
what is unclear about the ID check is if they would just turn you away or arrest you or what..
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Well you know its the FILLMORE so presumably that's the alcohol policy Bill Graham instituted in SF and NY back in the late 60s. If you're going to perfectly recreate his vision you have to pay attention to details.
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Well you know its the FILLMORE so presumably that's the alcohol policy Bill Graham instituted in SF and NY back in the late 60s. If you're going to perfectly recreate his vision you have to pay attention to details.
ha ha thats funny! late 60s at fillmore at the dead show "we'll need to run a check of your id number against the database" NOBODY would have made it in the building!
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What happens if you try to attend a show without your ID?
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What database do you speak of? Pretty sure they're scanning to check for fake ids like thousands of other bars.
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What database do you speak of? Pretty sure they're scanning to check for fake ids like thousands of other bars.
i seem to recall they said they're checking against database.. at least for people in child support arrears for people in Mongomery County.. maybe more...
maybe i'm wrong.. i was too busy screamin'...
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They allow 2 beers per person when I was there...
I do not like when they go to check my ID that they're swiping my information and I don't know how it's being used/captured. Why is this necessary? I even asked the guy what if I don't want you swiping my ID he said I wouldn't be allowed in. Kinda seems a little too big brother to me.
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What database do you speak of? Pretty sure they're scanning to check for fake ids like thousands of other bars.
no.. they're checking against database.. at least for people in child support arrears for people in Mongomery County.. maybe more...
its a great precedent...
So does that give the MoCo Police something to do while they're standing outside? They certainly aren't enforcing people smoking up weed in the club...
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What database do you speak of? Pretty sure they're scanning to check for fake ids like thousands of other bars.
no.. they're checking against database.. at least for people in child support arrears for people in Mongomery County.. maybe more...
its a great precedent...
So does that give the MoCo Police something to do while they're standing outside? They certainly aren't enforcing people smoking up weed in the club...
what do you mean? like arrest people? the people scanning were venue employees
its just too big brother for me... they don't even tell you what they're doing it for!
PERSONALLY i have a tough time being a part of that sort of stuff at a rock and roll show.. so i'll be going to very few shows..
bill graham is rolling in his grave.
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What database do you speak of? Pretty sure they're scanning to check for fake ids like thousands of other bars.
So Fillmore is 21+?
I thought it was all ages.
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What database do you speak of? Pretty sure they're scanning to check for fake ids like thousands of other bars.
So Fillmore is 21+?
I thought it was all ages.
it is all ages.. that is not what they are scanning for...
the crazy thing is they don't really tell you what they are scanning for
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I do not like when they go to check my ID that they're swiping my information and I don't know how it's being used/captured. Why is this necessary? I even asked the guy what if I don't want you swiping my ID he said I wouldn't be allowed in. Kinda seems a little too big brother to me.
... So much for those Rock en Espanol shows. . ?
just saying. . .
For myself I don't want to be automatically turned into a market share demographic. . . for friends of mine. . . it's a point of paranoia. . .
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I am assuming they are scanning to confirm what comes up on the stripe. They do this at Caddies and other Mont Co establishments. The magnetic stripes on the DLs contain birthdate, address, etc, not much else. I highly doubt they are scanning to check to see you are up to date on your child support.
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they are scanning . . . because, once again, it is to stop those who exploit the system. ids can be faked. the information on those strips cannot. and they have very limited information besides name and birthdate. they don't have ssn numbers on them.
hate the way some artists are doing thier tickets now, blame scalpers.
hate the way bars have to attempt to stop minors now, blame kids.
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they are scanning . . . because, once again, it is to stop those who exploit the system. ids can be faked. the information on those strips cannot. and they have very limited information besides name and birthdate. they don't have ssn numbers on them.
hate the way some artists are doing thier tickets now, blame scalpers.
hate the way bars have to attempt to stop minors now, blame kids.
According to MindCage's post on the previous page, if you don't let them scan your ID you will be denied admission. So it doesn't appear to be about stopping the use of fake IDs by underage patrons.
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they are scanning . . . because, once again, it is to stop those who exploit the system. ids can be faked. the information on those strips cannot. and they have very limited information besides name and birthdate. they don't have ssn numbers on them.
hate the way some artists are doing thier tickets now, blame scalpers.
hate the way bars have to attempt to stop minors now, blame kids.
According to MindCage's post on the previous page, if you don't let them scan your ID you will be denied admission. So it doesn't appear to be about stopping the use of fake IDs by underage patrons.
So what if I go there with my 2 year old niece? She has no ID (well a passport, but who carries that around?), so I guess she can't get in. I would assume that no ID, like the 930,no drinking, regardless of how old you look. If they keep you out for that, that would be stupid (I have friends who don't bring IDs if they don't plan to drink and are not driving).
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i think it has little to do with proving you are 21 because once inside when you order you have to show ID again... is it simply to prove you have a "valid" ID?
i think its just big brother.. what they are looking for i don't know.. i remember something about checking for people who owe child support in montgomery county...then again i was pretty buzzed....
honestly, some people apparently want going to a concert to be like going to the airport.. i don't. the "do the rabbit years" drill at the door is unacceptable to me. lets not mention having to do all these lines... its a friggin' hassle!
I could give a shit if a 20 year old drinks a beer or if someone without an ID does... What is it to me? I pay for my ticket and I have a valid ID so dont' harass ME.
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They allow 2 beers per person when I was there...
I do not like when they go to check my ID that they're swiping my information and I don't know how it's being used/captured. Why is this necessary? I even asked the guy what if I don't want you swiping my ID he said I wouldn't be allowed in. Kinda seems a little too big brother to me.
Maybe it was just this show that we only could get 1 beer. Or it was an un-informed bar tender. I hope thats the case because that was crazy, especially for a general admission show. The sound wasn't that great either (couldn't really hear the snare drum), maybe I am spoiled by 930..
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According to MindCage's post on the previous page, if you don't let them scan your ID you will be denied admission. So it doesn't appear to be about stopping the use of fake IDs by underage patrons.
not following you... the scanning will definitely stop the use of fake IDs, since the fakes will be spotted at the door, confiscated, and the person who tried using it won't be admitted (or will have to use another ID, one the presumably shows that they are underage). what am i missing here?
I could give a shit if a 20 year old drinks a beer or if someone without an ID does... What is it to me? I pay for my ticket and I have a valid ID so dont' harass ME.
the venue does give a shit if a 20-year-old drink a beer, because they could lose their license over it. they're not harassing you more or less than the underaged would-be drinker. you're treated the same.
if you're not a fan of their security/admission process, don't go there anymore.
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According to MindCage's post on the previous page, if you don't let them scan your ID you will be denied admission. So it doesn't appear to be about stopping the use of fake IDs by underage patrons.
not following you... the scanning will definitely stop the use of fake IDs, since the fakes will be spotted at the door, confiscated, and the person who tried using it won't be admitted (or will have to use another ID, one the presumably shows that they are underage). what am i missing here?
I could give a shit if a 20 year old drinks a beer or if someone without an ID does... What is it to me? I pay for my ticket and I have a valid ID so dont' harass ME.
the venue does give a shit if a 20-year-old drink a beer, because they could lose their license over it. they're not harassing you more or less than the underaged would-be drinker. you're treated the same.
if you're not a fan of their security/admission process, don't go there anymore.
always so pleasant
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And I don't plan to go Sweetcell..unless I get on the guest list or something..or they get some miracle show which looks unlikely..
I vote with my wallet. I don't like it and I won't support it. End of story.
Some people like to be sheep.. I don't.
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Saw some people get caught smoking pot Saturday night. They were told to put it out and received xS on their hands thus shutting them off from more alcohol purchases. No one got tossed, as far as i could tell
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According to MindCage's post on the previous page, if you don't let them scan your ID you will be denied admission. So it doesn't appear to be about stopping the use of fake IDs by underage patrons.
not following you... the scanning will definitely stop the use of fake IDs, since the fakes will be spotted at the door, confiscated, and the person who tried using it won't be admitted (or will have to use another ID, one the presumably shows that they are underage). what am i missing here?
If the goal is to stop the use of fake IDs, then the proper response to somebody who didn't show ID would be to mark them as underage.
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i'm glad i found this out before my shows in jan.
thanks gang. oh . . . that's going to be good at the widespread show watching all those stoners being told they can't enter without an id. somehow, i think this practice will not last long.
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so who's going to Cheap Trick?
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I am assuming they are scanning to confirm what comes up on the stripe. They do this at Caddies and other Mont Co establishments. The magnetic stripes on the DLs contain birthdate, address, etc, not much else. I highly doubt they are scanning to check to see you are up to date on your child support.
Seriously, bunch o' tin foil hat wearers round here. Bars scan ID's all accross Amurrrica.
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According to MindCage's post on the previous page, if you don't let them scan your ID you will be denied admission. So it doesn't appear to be about stopping the use of fake IDs by underage patrons.
not following you... the scanning will definitely stop the use of fake IDs, since the fakes will be spotted at the door, confiscated, and the person who tried using it won't be admitted (or will have to use another ID, one the presumably shows that they are underage). what am i missing here?
I could give a shit if a 20 year old drinks a beer or if someone without an ID does... What is it to me? I pay for my ticket and I have a valid ID so dont' harass ME.
the venue does give a shit if a 20-year-old drink a beer, because they could lose their license over it. they're not harassing you more or less than the underaged would-be drinker. you're treated the same.
if you're not a fan of their security/admission process, don't go there anymore.
From what I gather, some of these new fake Chinese licenses can fool most anything. I can't imagine they can not put on the magnetic strip what should go there as they can fake the holograms.
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the whole thing is confusing.. apparently you CAN get in but can't drink if you don't submit to their ID scan check...presumably you still need an ID to get in..
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Seriously, bunch o' tin foil hat wearers round here. Bars scan ID's all accross Amurrrica.
I have never once seen a bar scan IDs in the District, nor anywhere else I have lived.
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food stores around where i live have been doing it for awhile if they think i'm underage, which is rare now, which is sad now. that is why i assumed it was always for stopping underage drinking.
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Seriously, bunch o' tin foil hat wearers round here. Bars scan ID's all accross Amurrrica.
I have never once seen a bar scan IDs in the District, nor anywhere else I have lived.
Maybe it's MoCo then? But it's happened to me multiple times... in multiple cities.
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Seriously, bunch o' tin foil hat wearers round here. Bars scan ID's all accross Amurrrica.
I have never once seen a bar scan IDs in the District, nor anywhere else I have lived.
Maybe it's MoCo then? But it's happened to me multiple times... in multiple cities.
22 years in DC/MD/VA... I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all.. never had this take place.. not ONCE.
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definitely had it happen to me at least once in the DC/MD/VA area, can't remember where.
yada: with you on the tin foil hat wearing.
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;D
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so what is silver spring like? what's the area around the club like.
is it like this
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Flash-Mob-Knocks-Over-Silver-Spring-7-Eleven-134286103.html
boy that makes me want to go there.
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so what is silver spring like? what's the area around the club like.
is it like this
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Flash-Mob-Knocks-Over-Silver-Spring-7-Eleven-134286103.html
boy that makes me want to go there.
It's extremely scary, I would never want to walk around there by myself at night...
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it's like H street area circa 2006. you better bring pepper spray...or a gun.
so what is silver spring like? what's the area around the club like.
is it like this
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Flash-Mob-Knocks-Over-Silver-Spring-7-Eleven-134286103.html
boy that makes me want to go there.
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oh you two . . . .
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oh you two . . . .
Just wondering, what kind of information do you want to know?? Think Bethesda, Arlington, etc... only a bit more multicultural.
Also, that 7-11 is about 8 miles from down town Silver Spring, so you should be safe.
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food stores around where i live have been doing it for awhile if they think i'm underage, which is rare now, which is sad now. that is why i assumed it was always for stopping underage drinking.
Got carded last weekend at a restaurant, age 42 and 2 months!
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food stores around where i live have been doing it for awhile if they think i'm underage, which is rare now, which is sad now. that is why i assumed it was always for stopping underage drinking.
Got carded last weekend at a restaurant, age 42 and 2 months!
They were checking your name against a gov't database to ensure you werent' a turrrrorist!
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The casino in New Orleans has a id scanner, I get mine scanned all the time when I go in. I think it's to check if it's fake id ;D
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oh you two . . . .
Just wondering, what kind of information do you want to know?? Think Bethesda, Arlington, etc... only a bit more multicultural.
Also, that 7-11 is about 8 miles from down town Silver Spring, so you should be safe.
sorry . . . i fell into that whole "media is your information link" hole where generalizations rule. whew. that story is now everywhere, and it really does give an impression that this is what young people in silver spring do. i'm sure the town has its share of crime and people that should stop taking up space on earth, but everyplace has that . . . except where i live. we all love each other and share cake recipes.
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The curfew law can't be enacted soon enough.
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Curfews. Identification scans.
Silver Spring sounds like fun!
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Curfews. Identification scans.
Silver Spring sounds like fun!
What size hat do you wear?
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does the fillmore have free apples? can you take as many as you want?
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Curfews. Identification scans.
Silver Spring sounds like fun!
What size hat do you wear?
you know what you can do with your tin foil hat, right?
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does the fillmore have free apples? can you take as many as you want?
No, they don't. hrmph.
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I hear their cupcakes suck donkey balls.
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Curfews. Identification scans.
Silver Spring sounds like fun!
What size hat do you wear?
you know what you can do with your tin foil hat, right?
Shove it up your ass? :o
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Curfews. Identification scans.
Silver Spring sounds like fun!
What size hat do you wear?
you know what you can do with your tin foil hat, right?
Shove it up your ass? :o
I'd like to see you try! ;D
scanning IDs is really strange. No one yet on this thread has named one music venue in the greater DC area other than the Fillmore that does this yet we are asked to believe this is just the ordinary way of doing business?.. I've been to similar Live Nation venues elsewhere- long established ones- and they don't do it either.
Also, no one yet seems to know what they are actually doing... thats strange... "let me just give you my ID to scan.. don't bother telling me why!"
The reason its of concern is not really because "they may just be checking to see the ID is valid" but because one doesn't even know what they are doing, what information if any they may be collecting on you, how they may use this info, and how they may extend the use of scanning your ids (in other words they may "start" with just checking to see if they are valid but where does it stop? We are talking about Live Nation Ticketmaster here.. .not exactly "America's friendliest corporation.."
I can't believe people are so cavalier about this.. its one thing when governments cow people into giving up their rights but a private business one is keeping in business?
Its outrageous and there is nothing tin foil-y about feeling that way.
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It might be to build a list of banned patrons. Just guessing but they might rescan the id of someone they're throwing out. When they return to the venue and their id is scanned, they're denied entry.
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Curfews. Identification scans.
Silver Spring sounds like fun!
What size hat do you wear?
you know what you can do with your tin foil hat, right?
Shove it up your ass? :o
I'd like to see you try! ;D
scanning IDs is really strange. No one yet on this thread has named one music venue in the greater DC area other than the Fillmore that does this yet we are asked to believe this is just the ordinary way of doing business?.. I've been to similar Live Nation venues elsewhere- long established ones- and they don't do it either.
Also, no one yet seems to know what they are actually doing... thats strange... "let me just give you my ID to scan.. don't bother telling me why!"
The reason its of concern is not really because "they may just be checking to see the ID is valid" but because one doesn't even know what they are doing, what information if any they may be collecting on you, how they may use this info, and how they may extend the use of scanning your ids (in other words they may "start" with just checking to see if they are valid but where does it stop? We are talking about Live Nation Ticketmaster here.. .not exactly "America's friendliest corporation.."
I can't believe people are so cavalier about this.. its one thing when governments cow people into giving up their rights but a private business one is keeping in business?
Its outrageous and there is nothing tin foil-y about feeling that way.
Screw the hat and just get yourself one of these...
(http://www.thefashionpolice.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/cheap-monday-tinfoil-suit.jpg)
Like I've said, I've had my ID scanned at numerous events over the years, this is not something that bothers me so much that I wouldn't want to attend a venue.
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^^ prevent government balls-control rays.
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well the Fillmore is now getting some acts that traditionally played the 930...Flogging Molly, the Roots.... based on ticket prices it would seem that they are just willing to pay talent more and pass on higher ticket prices to the consumer...$54 for the roots for example..
In a way its a bummer but it seems that rather than lead to lower prices for the consumer through competition the FSS opening is going to lead to higher prices...
I guess on the plus side the FSS means more concert offerings in the DC area...
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Exactly as Seth predicted.
well the Fillmore is now getting some acts that traditionally played the 930...Flogging Molly, the Roots.... based on ticket prices it would seem that they are just willing to pay talent more and pass on higher ticket prices to the consumer...$54 for the roots for example..
In a way its a bummer but it seems that rather than lead to lower prices for the consumer through competition the FSS opening is going to lead to higher prices...
I guess on the plus side the FSS means more concert offerings in the DC area...
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well the Fillmore is now getting some acts that traditionally played the 930...Flogging Molly, the Roots.... based on ticket prices it would seem that they are just willing to pay talent more and pass on higher ticket prices to the consumer...$54 for the roots for example..
In a way its a bummer but it seems that rather than lead to lower prices for the consumer through competition the FSS opening is going to lead to higher prices...
I guess on the plus side the FSS means more concert offerings in the DC area...
One positive is it will keep bands from playing that dump DAR.
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Never been to a bad show at DAR....well maybe once when Ryan Adams put me to sleep.
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Its definitely what Seth predicted....
At the same time I would not be surprised if FSS is overpaying for talent at this point while trying to get a foothold and establish itself...
DAR is an abomination. Unless you're on the floor with good seats the sound is horrible. I'm not sure though that the FSS will prevent shows being booked there..
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Never been to a bad show at DAR....well maybe once when Ryan Adams put me to sleep.
You serious?? I've never been to a good show there. Maybe WEEN front row once, but still not as good as seeing them at a packed sold out club show.
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Yes, I'm serious. Arcade Fire, The Pixies and Erykah Badu all sounded great there.
Never been to a bad show at DAR....well maybe once when Ryan Adams put me to sleep.
You serious?? I've never been to a good show there. Maybe WEEN front row once, but still not as good as seeing them at a packed sold out club show.
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If you have 20th row center on the floor the sound is good at DAR but the sides? Forget about it.
I saw Nina Simone there and the sound was terrible (we were up on one of the sides).. also the Pet Shop Boys.. same problem.. Even the Experience Hendrix we were in front 10 rows but all the way to one side.. bad sound
Black Keys and Pixies I saw from about 20th row Center... good sound..
Phoenix I was about 10th row to side and suprisingly it sounded pretty good..
Moe was such a crap show I walked out.
thats my DAR breakdown.. I avoid the place..only show I've paid for at that place in past four years is Phoenix...I won tickets for the Black Keys...in fact I didn't go to the Ween show for that reason and I've regretted that decision...I lacked faith in the Boognish.
That doesn't even get into the issue of not being able to have a drink with you during show (maybe this has changed?)
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Yes, I'm serious. Arcade Fire, The Pixies and Erykah Badu all sounded great there.
Never been to a bad show at DAR....well maybe once when Ryan Adams put me to sleep.
You serious?? I've never been to a good show there. Maybe WEEN front row once, but still not as good as seeing them at a packed sold out club show.
Wilco/Sonic Youth
Modest Mouse
WEEN
Pixies
Maybe one or two more... Just something really boring about that place, mixed with the crap sound, and no booze.
I think part of the problem is after seeing bands like Arcade Fire, Wilco, etc at the Club and then them playing there, it's just fucking awful, which is why I'd rather see them move to FSS than DAR.
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I remember a couple years ago there was talk of enclosing the seated portion of Merriweather to allow it to have shows year-round. I wonder if that is still being considered. Seems like a great alternative to DAR, and somewhere I would much rather go for larger indoor shows, even with the longer commute to get there.
I think the shed in Camden, NJ (just across the river from Philly) might do this in the winter months.
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Maybe one or two more... Just something really boring about that place, mixed with the crap sound, and no booze.
I think part of the problem is after seeing bands like Arcade Fire, Wilco, etc at the Club and then them playing there, it's just fucking awful, which is why I'd rather see them move to FSS than DAR.
seems that the no booze thing is now the exception rather than the rule. for a while DAR was all uptight about drinks in the hall, but i can't remember the last show i saw there when they weren't allowed in.
you hit the nail on the head about the club --> DAR transition thing, it's a stepping stone for acts who have outgrown clubs. there is a certain amount of whining going on here, IMO: whaaaa, whaaaa, i want my little band to remain little, i don't want them to play big venues and have other people liking them too!!! ;)
i'm in the "DAR is fine" camp, but i've never had bad seats there. as hutch pointed out, if you're in the front half of the hall you'll be fine (if not downright impressed, depending on the act/techies). only bad sounding show i've ever seen there was eddy izzard, night 1 - waaaaaayyy too echo-ey. otherwise, every show has sounded ok to great. i'd LOVE to hear sigur ros at DAR.
DAR vs FSS? haven't been to FSS yet, but based on what i'm hearing from other who have i might prefer DAR.
I think the shed in Camden, NJ (just across the river from Philly) might do this in the winter months.
yup, they do. the camden shed is already enclosed (permamently) on three sides, so closing up the back (part that opens out on to the lawn) is relatively simple.
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DAR vs FSS? haven't been to FSS yet, but based on what i'm hearing from other who have i might prefer DAR.
Sound: FSS
Booze: FSS
No one bitching at you for standing up: FSS
Intimate Setting: FSS
Pot Smoke Tolerated: FSS
FSS FTW!
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DAR vs FSS? haven't been to FSS yet, but based on what i'm hearing from other who have i might prefer DAR.
Sound: FSS
Booze: FSS
No one bitching at you for standing up: FSS
Intimate Setting: FSS
Pot Smoke Tolerated: FSS
FSS FTW!
Step right this way! Hand over your ID, your wallet and your soul and see what magical wonders (http://www.ticketmaster.com/Live-Lava-Live-tickets/artist/1663957) await!
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it would seem that they are just willing to pay talent more and pass on higher ticket prices to the consumer...$54 for the roots for example..
This cannot be emphasized enough. Their ticket prices are awful and that scenario might explain it.
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it would seem that they are just willing to pay talent more and pass on higher ticket prices to the consumer...$54 for the roots for example..
This cannot be emphasized enough. Their ticket prices are awful and that scenario might explain it.
just saying, but $54 is the price after fees. the "face value" price is $45 - exactly the same as when the roots played at 9:30 for 2 shows last year. and if you try to buy a ticket for a $45 show at 9:30, it'll end up the same $54 or $56 or whatever. you can argue you get a "more intimate" experience at 9:30 since it holds 800 or so fewer people, but the ticket price for a concertgoer is basically the same.
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it would seem that they are just willing to pay talent more and pass on higher ticket prices to the consumer...$54 for the roots for example..
This cannot be emphasized enough. Their ticket prices are awful and that scenario might explain it.
just saying, but $54 is the price after fees. the "face value" price is $45 - exactly the same as when the roots played at 9:30 for 2 shows last year. and if you try to buy a ticket for a $45 show at 9:30, it'll end up the same $54 or $56 or whatever. you can argue you get a "more intimate" experience at 9:30 since it holds 800 or so fewer people, but the ticket price for a concertgoer is basically the same.
thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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didn't realize the roots were up to 45 at 930
if thats the case then they are simply using their greater capacity (i'm still unclear if it is 1800 or what) to lure talent away from the 930...I suppose it could be possible the 930 was booked that night..
but there have been quite a few acts that used to play the 930 now playing the fillmore.... ziggy marley, trey, cheap trick.. can' recall what else..
there are also acts that used to play the warner now going there...widespread panic.. some of the comedy..this is simply Live Nation routing shows to the Fillmore that they used to route to the Warner...
i thought i had been noticing a trend towards higher ticket prices at the Fillmore than at 930..
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the "face value" price is $45 - exactly the same as when the roots played at 9:30 for 2 shows last year. and if you try to buy a ticket for a $45 show at 9:30, it'll end up the same $54 or $56 or whatever.
Ok, that's fair. I thought the $54 was face.
My comment is also based on my experience of getting sticker shock for all three of the shows I've considered going to there (or considered getting dragged to) - Primus, Roots and Widespread Panic (ugh). Panic is $60, I think? That's not a shitload for a club show?
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The Roots' 930 Club shows have been the very end of December the last few times, right? The Club booking DBT for the 29th-31st might be why they couldn't get the Roots this time.
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yeah i thought 54 was the face value too..but of course when it comes to Fillmore show people add in all the fees and list that as the price. ::)
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the panic shows are special. you pay for special.
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the panic shows are special. you pay for special.
Lol
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I remember a couple years ago there was talk of enclosing the seated portion of Merriweather to allow it to have shows year-round. I wonder if that is still being considered. Seems like a great alternative to DAR, and somewhere I would much rather go for larger indoor shows, even with the longer commute to get there.
I think the shed in Camden, NJ (just across the river from Philly) might do this in the winter months.
Not on the table. The actual plan was to enclose, make it smaller, no outdoor shows and convert the parking lot into big box stores. Went over like a lead balloon.
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I pray to God I can weasel my way out of that Panic show.
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I pray to God I can weasel my way out of that Panic show.
i'm sorry . . . that might be the dumbest thing i've ever read. if you don't want to go. don't go. if you hate the band. hate them. who cares.
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I pray to God I can weasel my way out of that Panic show.
i'm sorry . . . that might be the dumbest thing i've ever read. if you don't want to go. don't go. if you hate the band. hate them. who cares.
I bet your partner is posting the same thing on another message board on the interwebz.
"My parnter is dragging me to a two night run to fucking acoustic Panic, can you believe it?? What the hell can I do to get out of it?"
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I pray to God I can weasel my way out of that Panic show.
i'm sorry . . . that might be the dumbest thing i've ever read. if you don't want to go. don't go. if you hate the band. hate them. who cares.
I bet your partner is posting the same thing on another message board on the interwebz.
"My parnter is dragging me to a two night run to fucking acoustic Panic, can you believe it?? What the hell can I do to get out of it?"
he is? scandalous!
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Going with a friend who has tix and doesn't want to go alone. As a friend I said I would despite being ambivalent about the band. My preference would ne to stay home but I guess I do stupid shit fo my friends sometimes. At least I can now also proudly claim to have written the dumbest thing you've ever read.
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Going with a friend who has tix and doesn't want to go alone. As a friend I said I would despite being ambivalent about the band. My preference would ne to stay home but I guess I do stupid shit fo my friends sometimes. At least I can now also proudly claim to have written the dumbest thing you've ever read.
dude I have done this with Widespread Panic shows... twice I think
Don't do it.... their shows go on forever with long intermissions.. you will be pulling your hair out at the beginning of the second set..
come up with something: "guess what.. I'm being sent to _____ by my work" .. anything..
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are the shows sold out? find a hot chick (or whatever passes for one at a WSP show) who'll take his extra, and hook him up with a blind date. voila!
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are the shows sold out? find a hot chick (or whatever passes for one at a WSP show) who'll take his extra, and hook him up with a blind date. voila!
I don't think they have women at their shows.. can't recall anyone except my spouse's cousin that I hooked up with a ticket..
Seriously its just guys getting drunk as fast as they can.. oh and they all go to both shows...essentially its always the same guys...
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are the shows sold out? find a hot chick (or whatever passes for one at a WSP show) who'll take his extra, and hook him up with a blind date. voila!
This reminded me of how morbidly fascinating it was to look at the tickets section of NYC Craigslist and read all the ads of people trying to use their extra Radiohead ticket to get a date a couple months ago.
Regarding quoting the price of FSS tickets with fees included, do they even have any options for not paying the ticketmaster fees on their tickets? At least 9:30 has that option, though you can't always use it if the show will be an instant sellout.
I think I saw that Flogging Molly tix for FSS are $38 after fees. Is that in line with what their previous local shows have been?
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will tanks be hissing and ballons poppin outside the panic shows?
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(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IvNOtFBPKoQ/TSPG9q_w_kI/AAAAAAAAAFA/MQ6vAEV1cj8/s1600/hipster-ev.jpg)
we go to radiohead shows . . . we are cool.
(http://www.jambands.com/images/2008/10/17/15357/image_2008_10_23.00-353x.jpg)
we go to widespread panic shows, and bring food to every show for the past 20 years to raise awareness for people who are starving. we are not cool.
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A couple of years ago I saw a magazine feature or something about a book that simply contained pictures of various fans of certain musical artists (Dylan, Peter Murphy, Korn, etc.). It sort of reinforced the stereotypes of how they dress. I thought it was called "Tribes" and I've been trying to find it ever since. Maybe I just dreamt the whole thing.
Brian
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will tanks be hissing and ballons poppin outside the panic shows?
I bet there will be brownies, too.
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will tanks be hissing and ballons poppin outside the panic shows?
I bet there will be brownies, too.
not outside, but all inside ;D
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brownies > cupcakes
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Damnit, I missed the opportunity to make a cupcake reference. >:(
Well done, sir.
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brownies > cupcakes
They got weed in 'em?
Sin,
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcReQDvmVK1rqXqcyS9lpABmizbkQdZzIIS_NDYIY0K1HrHE0ibeJOZe5KB5)
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Word
(http://www.thecrimsonshaft.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/ashy_larry.jpg)
;D
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AIGHT!
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its all crazy up in here. you guys should go to a widespread show just to watch the people if you want. some people say it is worth the price of admission alone.
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its all crazy up in here. you guys should go to a widespread show just to watch the people if you want. some people say it is worth the price of admission alone.
Only if it's 95 degrees and way south of the Mason Dixon Line.
Tan lines. Side boob. Mini Skirts. Cowgirl boots. :o
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I saw Widespread at Bonnaroo. Even though I like Phish better as they don't do as much jams as Widespread this fucker can sure wail on a guitar ;D
(http://www.onlineathens.com/multimedia/galleries/091408wsp/slides/042307WidespreadPanic04_kl.jpg)
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I saw Widespread at Bonnaroo. Even though I like Phish better as they don't do as much jams as Widespread this fucker can sure wail on a guitar ;D
(http://www.onlineathens.com/multimedia/galleries/091408wsp/slides/042307WidespreadPanic04_kl.jpg)
Is that Father Time?
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I saw Widespread at Bonnaroo. Even though I like Phish better as they don't do as much jams as Widespread this fucker can sure wail on a guitar ;D
(http://www.onlineathens.com/multimedia/galleries/091408wsp/slides/042307WidespreadPanic04_kl.jpg)
Santa? Santa Claus!?
(http://sas.guidespot.com/bundles/guides_nb/assets/widget_dDLBkF7DDkhB8ir3jtaOm3.jpg)
Brian
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Bullshit.
brownies > cupcakes
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Bullshit.
brownies > cupcakes
I will opt for a brownie over a cupcake any day, especially if it's smoothered in ice cream and whipped cream. But I won't go to FSS to do so.
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Jeff Ross is performing at the FSS for $33-43 (after fees). They are out of their minds. His DC Improv shows were half that.
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Bullshit.
brownies > cupcakes
reminder: we were talking about the WSP show when this head-to-head came up.
"special" brownie vs. 930 cupcake... i'll go brownie :o
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Jeff Ross is performing at the FSS for $33-43 (after fees). They are out of their minds. His DC Improv shows were half that.
his profile has risen in the past year or so, i think he'll do well there actually.
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comedians should stay away from music clubs and music festivals. but that is just my opinion.
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comedians should stay away from music clubs and music festivals. but that is just my opinion.
i dunno, comedians at a music festival can be a nice change of pace. i really liked the "comedy kick-off" they did at coachella when i was there. fun way to kick off a festie.
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At a very low point in my life, I saw a comedian warm up the crowd for a Glass Tiger / Starship show. He was the highlight. Starship played "We Built This City" two and a half times. >:(
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I saw David Cross at the Black Cat a few years ago. I thought it was a pretty cool vibe and he actually had a band open for him.
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At a very low point in my life, I saw a comedian warm up the crowd for a Glass Tiger / Starship show. He was the highlight. Starship played "We Built This City" two and a half times. >:(
what the hell did you do in a past life to deserve that??
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Standing room only for comedy shows??
blah
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Is it just me, or does the FSS schedule look verrry thin? They've only got 3 shows listed for the rest of the year, then only 7 shows in January.
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Is it just me, or does the FSS schedule look verrry thin? They've only got 3 shows listed for the rest of the year, then only 7 shows in January.
This place has been such a dud in regards to bookings... **snooooozer**
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Love it or hate it but I think the Fillmore has already had an impact on the 930s offerings...the 930 is having "smaller" shows now..could be temporary or not... remember the Fillmore is between 70-90% larger than the 930 Club capacity-wise...
Ray Davies, Cheap Trick, The Roots, Trey Anastasio, Ziggy Marley may be "duds" to some but they used to play the 930
basically the 930 has moved a bit away from legacy acts and more into newer up and coming bands.. accordingly, the average ticket price at the 930 seems to have gone down...
I would expect to continue to see bands that used to play the 930 move to the Fillmore as they are offered more benjamins (not necessarily on a per ticket basis but because they can put more people in there)..
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i don't go to the club much anymore because i think i'm going to get shot.
i never go to black cat because i'm know i'm going to be shot.
after i go to widespread at the fillmore . . . i'll let you know if any shots were around.
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i don't go to the club much anymore because i think i'm going to get shot.
i never go to black cat because i'm know i'm going to be shot.
after i go to widespread at the fillmore . . . i'll let you know if any shots were around.
You serious, Clark?
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Ray Davies, Cheap Trick, The Roots, Trey Anastasio, Ziggy Marley may be "duds" to some but they used to play the 930
Other than this list, I'd consider their calendar mostly duds... Ziggy is on the edge of being a dud.
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By "duds", do you mean "Bands I don't like", or do you mean "Bands that couldn't possibly sell any tickets"?
Ray Davies, Cheap Trick, The Roots, Trey Anastasio, Ziggy Marley may be "duds" to some but they used to play the 930
Other than this list, I'd consider their calendar mostly duds... Ziggy is on the edge of being a dud.
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By "duds", do you mean "Bands I don't like", or do you mean "Bands that couldn't possibly sell any tickets"?
Ray Davies, Cheap Trick, The Roots, Trey Anastasio, Ziggy Marley may be "duds" to some but they used to play the 930
Other than this list, I'd consider their calendar mostly duds... Ziggy is on the edge of being a dud.
Both...
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their listings look atrocious right now...
it will be interesting to see where they go...
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their listings look atrocious right now...
it will be interesting to see where they go...
Will it really?
I'm surprised you still cheerlead for this place while they continue to bone you with a total lack of Rockenespanol shows
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their listings look atrocious right now...
it will be interesting to see where they go...
Will it really?
I'm surprised you still cheerlead for this place while they continue to bone you with a total lack of Rockenespanol shows
ah..its cheerleading to say their listings look atrocious..got it mac.
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their listings look atrocious right now...
it will be interesting to see where they go...
Any Latino offerings?
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their listings look atrocious right now...
it will be interesting to see where they go...
Any Latino offerings?
trying to wind me up? ;D
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40% of Live Nation Seats Go Unsold... (http://digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2011/111219livenation)
Here's the riddle: Groupon can definitely fill seats, but they can also generate a culture of bottom-scraping fans. "Concertgoers may well expect further last minute discounts to appear next time around," the researchers stated. "While this might work with clothing stores and beauty spas, it does not sit easily with the intimate relationship of a band and their own fans." [emphasis in original]
From the commments:
Let me tell you about the time when Live Nation didn't market a show by a Latin artist to the local Latino community...
Related: Live Nation: The Average Fan Goes to Just 1.5 Shows a Year... (http://digitalmusicnews.com/stories/062311live)
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their listings look atrocious right now...
it will be interesting to see where they go...
Any Latino offerings?
trying to wind me up? ;D
Honestly, I haven't kept up on their offerings, just wondering if it was all lip service.
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Speaking of late nite eats (well, over in that other thread anyways), Stage Burger opens next to the Fillmore tomorrow. Highly unfortunate names, hope the food is better....
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GPkWw5vkHao/T04ZhXt66WI/AAAAAAAACk0/ip3vk1-uUs0/s640/STAGEMENU1.png)
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is it just me . . .
or has the "dc music venue war" began?
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is it just me . . .
or has the "dc music venue war" began?
They don't have a single band scheduled for april?
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Lady and gentlemen. We are one week out from Heilung. Let the ritual begin!
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Anyone else wonder if and how profitable Fillmore SS has been.
I mean I've always had precocious (or as an adult, classist/hipster) musical tastes, but am I just so old that I can't tell that the majority of the acts billed there are relevant? Shouldn't there be at least a few bands a month/year/decade that would catch my eye? I mean they're hosting proms and silent dance parties. Is it that unprofitable to host a few local showcases once in awhile (now that's just a loser band jerk gripe)?
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Anyone else wonder if and how profitable Fillmore SS has been.
I mean I've always had precocious (or as an adult, classist/hipster) musical tastes, but am I just so old that I can't tell that the majority of the acts billed there are relevant? Shouldn't there be at least a few bands a month/year/decade that would catch my eye? I mean they're hosting proms and silent dance parties. Is it that unprofitable to host a few local showcases once in awhile (now that's just a loser band jerk gripe)?
It's 100% not profitable... I'm sure you could find the information here or the Google, but this was a heated topic on here years ago. I'm pretty sure they received millions of dollars in funding/tax credits/etc. I'm sure it some point in the coming years it will become a Fuddruckers or something.
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They had Carly Rae Jepsen last summer. I don't know how much more "they're clowning on IMP" you can get?
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They had Carly Rae Jepsen last summer. I don't know how much more "they're clowning on IMP" you can get?
Speaking of punching the clown, wonder what's going on with the fearless leader lately?
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Anyone else wonder if and how profitable Fillmore SS has been.
I mean I've always had precocious (or as an adult, classist/hipster) musical tastes, but am I just so old that I can't tell that the majority of the acts billed there are relevant? Shouldn't there be at least a few bands a month/year/decade that would catch my eye? I mean they're hosting proms and silent dance parties. Is it that unprofitable to host a few local showcases once in awhile (now that's just a loser band jerk gripe)?
It's 100% not profitable... I'm sure you could find the information here or the Google, but this was a heated topic on here years ago. I'm pretty sure they received millions of dollars in funding/tax credits/etc. I'm sure it some point in the coming years it will become a Fuddruckers or something.
There was a Fuddruckers within walking distance but it closed, just like most of the other locations.
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Anyone else wonder if and how profitable Fillmore SS has been.
I mean I've always had precocious (or as an adult, classist/hipster) musical tastes, but am I just so old that I can't tell that the majority of the acts billed there are relevant? Shouldn't there be at least a few bands a month/year/decade that would catch my eye? I mean they're hosting proms and silent dance parties. Is it that unprofitable to host a few local showcases once in awhile (now that's just a loser band jerk gripe)?
It's 100% not profitable... I'm sure you could find the information here or the Google, but this was a heated topic on here years ago. I'm pretty sure they received millions of dollars in funding/tax credits/etc. I'm sure it some point in the coming years it will become a Fuddruckers or something.
There was a Fuddruckers within walking distance but it closed, just like most of the other locations.
Then crisp and juicy.
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Anyone else wonder if and how profitable Fillmore SS has been.
I mean I've always had precocious (or as an adult, classist/hipster) musical tastes, but am I just so old that I can't tell that the majority of the acts billed there are relevant? Shouldn't there be at least a few bands a month/year/decade that would catch my eye? I mean they're hosting proms and silent dance parties. Is it that unprofitable to host a few local showcases once in awhile (now that's just a loser band jerk gripe)?
It's 100% not profitable... I'm sure you could find the information here or the Google, but this was a heated topic on here years ago. I'm pretty sure they received millions of dollars in funding/tax credits/etc. I'm sure it some point in the coming years it will become a Fuddruckers or something.
There was a Fuddruckers within walking distance but it closed, just like most of the other locations.
Then crisp and juicy.
East West Hwy at Colesville
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Anyone else wonder if and how profitable Fillmore SS has been.
I mean I've always had precocious (or as an adult, classist/hipster) musical tastes, but am I just so old that I can't tell that the majority of the acts billed there are relevant? Shouldn't there be at least a few bands a month/year/decade that would catch my eye? I mean they're hosting proms and silent dance parties. Is it that unprofitable to host a few local showcases once in awhile (now that's just a loser band jerk gripe)?
It's 100% not profitable... I'm sure you could find the information here or the Google, but this was a heated topic on here years ago. I'm pretty sure they received millions of dollars in funding/tax credits/etc. I'm sure it some point in the coming years it will become a Fuddruckers or something.
There was a Fuddruckers within walking distance but it closed, just like most of the other locations.
Then crisp and juicy.
East West Hwy at Colesville
Always room for more 🐔
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I knew about the subsidies and all that, but unless their business model is based on profit/loss tax games, you would think that they would try and have a variety of acts, considering that the I.M.P. manages to shake up their offerings. I mean considering the scale of LiveNation.
Though, Amazon "runs at a loss" so... Business!
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did anyone else go to the Heilung show last night? Is it normal to take 2 hours for everyone to get inside during sold out shows? good lord - they had to delay the show by 1 hour because not everyone was inside yet. Doors were at 7, we showed up at 7:15 and the line wrapped all the way around the block behind the fillmore. We moved maybe a few feet in 45 minutes - took us 1 hour to make it inside (we made it inside at 8:15, show was supposed to start at 8). It seemed something changed around 8pm and the line started moving much faster. Totally insane though.
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Reports people...we want to live vicariously though them
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it's always like that even at non-sold out shows (the line wrapping around the block, etc)
my friend told me it's way oversold?
did anyone else go to the Heilung show last night? Is it normal to take 2 hours for everyone to get inside during sold out shows? good lord - they had to delay the show by 1 hour because not everyone was inside yet. Doors were at 7, we showed up at 7:15 and the line wrapped all the way around the block behind the fillmore. We moved maybe a few feet in 45 minutes - took us 1 hour to make it inside (we made it inside at 8:15, show was supposed to start at 8). It seemed something changed around 8pm and the line started moving much faster. Totally insane though.
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Haven't been to the Fillmore in a few years, but I'm pretty sure this is caused by a butts/nuts search and a metal detector.
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did anyone else go to the Heilung show last night? Is it normal to take 2 hours for everyone to get inside during sold out shows? good lord - they had to delay the show by 1 hour because not everyone was inside yet. Doors were at 7, we showed up at 7:15 and the line wrapped all the way around the block behind the fillmore. We moved maybe a few feet in 45 minutes - took us 1 hour to make it inside (we made it inside at 8:15, show was supposed to start at 8) . It seemed something changed around 8pm and the line started moving much faster. Totally insane though.
sooooo... other than long lines and a lack of nudity, how was the actual show? people were hyping this like the next coming of radiohead - t'was it?
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did anyone else go to the Heilung show last night? Is it normal to take 2 hours for everyone to get inside during sold out shows? good lord - they had to delay the show by 1 hour because not everyone was inside yet. Doors were at 7, we showed up at 7:15 and the line wrapped all the way around the block behind the fillmore. We moved maybe a few feet in 45 minutes - took us 1 hour to make it inside (we made it inside at 8:15, show was supposed to start at 8) . It seemed something changed around 8pm and the line started moving much faster. Totally insane though.
sooooo... other than long lines and a lack of nudity, how was the actual show? people were hyping this like the next coming of radiohead - t'was it?
I know ...seriously at least 4 bordies attended this cult-of-death fest
Was their brainwashing going on and no one can remember the set...
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It was...stunning.
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ok, that's a start... sounds like it was a good show?
did they play their big hit, "ah-HUYAH HUYAH, WUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"???
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Anyone else wonder if and how profitable Fillmore SS has been.
I mean I've always had precocious (or as an adult, classist/hipster) musical tastes, but am I just so old that I can't tell that the majority of the acts billed there are relevant? Shouldn't there be at least a few bands a month/year/decade that would catch my eye? I mean they're hosting proms and silent dance parties. Is it that unprofitable to host a few local showcases once in awhile (now that's just a loser band jerk gripe)?
It's 100% not profitable... I'm sure you could find the information here or the Google, but this was a heated topic on here years ago. I'm pretty sure they received millions of dollars in funding/tax credits/etc. I'm sure it some point in the coming years it will become a Fuddruckers or something.
There was a Fuddruckers within walking distance but it closed, just like most of the other locations.
Then crisp and juicy.
East West Hwy at Colesville
Always room for more 🐔
You'll be happy to know that https://donpollogroup.com is coming to the space formerly known as Noodles and Co. on Ellsworth. OHHHH DAT CHICKEN.
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Found out last week that you don't need a ticket to the FSS, you can hear the show really well from across the street.
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Awesome! Let’s have a meet up. Bring a lawn chair and cooler. Let’s pick a show soon
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Found out last week that you don't need a ticket to the FSS, you can hear the show really well from across the street.
erm...which street??