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Title: TBD
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 29, 2012, 04:46:19 pm
On the topic of the healthcare act: http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/06/29/just-a-humble-tradesman-trapped-in-a-world-he-never-made/



Still the wrong thread.  Why doesn't someone start a various random thoughts thread?

Hot out, ain't it?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: wml7 on June 29, 2012, 04:50:48 pm
ball sweat
 ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: shemptiness on June 29, 2012, 05:13:47 pm
I find it odd that men in their 50's use 'LOL'.
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Post by: wml7 on June 29, 2012, 05:50:32 pm
How about hehe
 ;D
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Post by: lagas on June 29, 2012, 07:10:03 pm
Quote
Being personally responsible is drivel?  hat is EXACVTLY why this country is going down the shitter.  The libtards think it is the job of those who make responsible choices in live to be forced to take care of those who make poor choices.  No one is stopping anyone form buying insurance at any point.  If one waits until they are such a high rick person and insurance is cost prohibitive, well then that is the result of their decision to not buy insurance earlier.    The absurd part (and glaring hole in this all) is that the people who cry and complain that they cannot 'afford' insurance (really meaning they choose to spend their money elsewhere) are going to be forced to buy it under the great Bammy's plan, and all of a sudden they LOVE it and are going to choose to do what they should have done all along?  Well if they had just bought insurance in the first place and not ASSUMED THE RISK of getting sick, then they would not be whining now...  It all comes down to making choices and living with the consequences.

reading your writing style is like having a hangover...awful...and about SCOTUS' decision, deal with it and move on...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on June 29, 2012, 07:36:57 pm
RatBASTARD

People are BORN with Multiple sclerosis .. if you have it diagnosed when you're 13 you're going to find it difficult to find insurance where it not for the Obamacare you despise... and you can't be on your parents' insurance forever.

Insurance companies routinely dropped people with things like MS.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: shemptiness on June 29, 2012, 08:01:58 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/399418_10150921471271939_2055158270_n.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 29, 2012, 08:10:58 pm

Maybe one of us can be katie's rebound. 

Willing.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 30, 2012, 11:07:14 am
Apparently having sex while standing up is very popular in the UK.  Just something I've learned while watching seasons 2 through 4 of the UK version of Shameless.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 30, 2012, 11:14:22 am
"Killing Bono" is a must see movie, recommended...
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 30, 2012, 02:51:08 pm
i wonder how my fellow forumers fared in friday's storm?  out here in the valley, we had what was called a "derecho" and it sounded like a freight train tornado coming right at us as i watched lightning on our back deck.  totally panicked, grabbed the cat and ran for the basement.  damage out here was insane, and power is out almost everywhere.  hope all are safe . . . for we might get it again today.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: wml7 on June 30, 2012, 03:57:51 pm
Yes it wrecked havoc here as well.  I thought it was a micro burst as we have had those before. The winds were crazy strong I tried to go outside to record the lightning that was filling the sky.
 ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on June 30, 2012, 08:54:30 pm
I've had to move to an undisclosed location with Ratbastard..we're sitting here arguing about health care.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 30, 2012, 08:57:14 pm
i hope you have plenty of latin american music to listen to.
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Post by: hutch on June 30, 2012, 09:02:36 pm
but seriously.. the storm caused the power to go out at the state theatre as maceo parker was laying into soul power towards the end of his show... when i got home the power was out, phones don't work , trees everywhere.. with a one month old and a 2 year old we decided to move to a friends house early today... i hope we get power back soon... stuff on our deck blew everywhere.. never did track down our patio umbrella which we had left open and seems to have flown to god knows where..we're going to lose some food in the fridge.hopefully the chest freezer stuff will hold up... utter chaos driving around arlington/falls church earlier today.

everyone stay safe.

luckily i gave my friend i'm staying with an extra turntable and took him to orpheus when they had all their stuff for $1 so i'm groovin' to some good stuff...  peter tosh legalize it right now
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on June 30, 2012, 09:11:32 pm
I thought there was a limit on how much individuals could contribute to politicians...  When John what's his face gave $1M to Bammy I thought it was bad, but this is just plain horrible.


http://news.yahoo.com/ap-source-adelson-giving-10-million-aid-gop-000827338.html



Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on June 30, 2012, 09:40:19 pm
Citizens United undid the last 20 years of campaign finance reform. You can thank your fellow cavemen for it, too.

I thought there was a limit on how much individuals could contribute to politicians...  When John what's his face gave $1M to Bammy I thought it was bad, but this is just plain horrible.


http://news.yahoo.com/ap-source-adelson-giving-10-million-aid-gop-000827338.html




Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 30, 2012, 10:04:40 pm
i wonder how pauly shore did?  it really shocked me to see that he was touring again.  he had his moment, now not being the time, in my opinion.  like someone that belongs on a bad reality show by now, but maybe he is really funny in the big ole 2012.  comedians are weird that way.  i would hate to have their life.

damn you beets . . . now i want to post in your thread, instead of my own.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on June 30, 2012, 10:45:17 pm
I think it did awfully.
Duffy's tweeted soon before the late show that they had free tickets for the taking. A friend did text me saying he was funny at the early show though.



Back to the campaign finance thing: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/06/history-money-american-elections
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 01, 2012, 09:25:21 am
Pauly Shore at 9:30 and Bo Bice at Iota. Banner weekend for DC shows.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 01, 2012, 09:30:02 am
I'm pondering whether to run the Baltimore Marathon, which would necessitate skipping the Jens Lekman show the night before. I did already see Jens with full band at smaller venue for half the price, and no new material since that time.

Alternatively, I could run the Richmond Marathon in November, but maybe that's not a good idea. If I were to require some medical attention, some redneck Virginia ratbastard might mistake me for someone uninsured and get out his shotgun and shoot me dead.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 01, 2012, 11:44:08 am
"I Know What Love Isn't". Out on September 4th

I'm pondering whether to run the Baltimore Marathon, which would necessitate skipping the Jens Lekman show the night before. I did already see Jens with full band at smaller venue for half the price, and no new material since that time.

Alternatively, I could run the Richmond Marathon in November, but maybe that's not a good idea. If I were to require some medical attention, some redneck Virginia ratbastard might mistake me for someone uninsured and get out his shotgun and shoot me dead.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 01, 2012, 11:56:54 am
Jens becomes less impressive each time I see him.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on July 01, 2012, 02:33:51 pm
Guess Friday's storm really was a huge deal. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/extraordinary-energy-friday-nights-derecho-in-washington-dc/2012/07/01/gJQAF2GFGW_blog.html)

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 01, 2012, 04:10:25 pm
Jens becomes less impressive each time I see him.


agreed, but he has potential... maybe he's due for a "turnaround" show.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 01, 2012, 06:31:57 pm
Maybe. Too bad he's up against Swans.

Jens becomes less impressive each time I see him.


agreed, but he has potential... maybe he's due for a "turnaround" show.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 02, 2012, 10:27:58 am
i wonder how my fellow forumers fared in friday's storm?  out here in the valley, we had what was called a "derecho" and it sounded like a freight train tornado coming right at us as i watched lightning on our back deck.  totally panicked, grabbed the cat and ran for the basement.  damage out here was insane, and power is out almost everywhere.  hope all are safe . . . for we might get it again today.

Still no power.  Trees from neigbors house accross alley fell into girlfriends yard.  I have a chain saw so i started cutting it up around 8 AM saturday morning.  A ton of people come buy asking me if I and when I  was going to cut the piece blocking the alley.  I say if I can I will.  Then some guy actually trys to lift it up while I am cutting it.  People are annoying.   I mean it wasn't responsibility to cut the tree section in the alley.  And secondly if they are in such a hurry to get it cut go to the hardware store and buy a chain saw.  Right before I finished a guy as idling in  his car in front of the tree waiting for me to move it. 

Anyway trying to sleep in 100 degree weather isn't very much fun.  Luckily we have a second house and gave up on the power being fixed and went there.  I have moved almost all the furniture so i just slept on the floor.  But on the floor with AC beats sleeping in a bed without AC.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on July 02, 2012, 10:34:46 am
Thank goodness mine was only out from 11PM Friday to 8AM on Sunday.  Saturday was miserable, especially trying to sleep.  At least it wasnt as bad as last years hurricane, where my power was out for 5 days.  Frakin' BGE...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: jrho on July 02, 2012, 11:17:48 am
My power's still out with no ETA on when we might get service, so Dominion can go diaf. I was actually excited to go to work this morning because work has a/c and internet.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 02, 2012, 11:29:29 am
still no power.. and it seems like we are a small pocket that is affected so not optimstic...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 02, 2012, 11:36:32 am
By the time any of us hear the album, the show iwll probably be sold out.

"I Know What Love Isn't". Out on September 4th

I'm pondering whether to run the Baltimore Marathon, which would necessitate skipping the Jens Lekman show the night before. I did already see Jens with full band at smaller venue for half the price, and no new material since that time.

Alternatively, I could run the Richmond Marathon in November, but maybe that's not a good idea. If I were to require some medical attention, some redneck Virginia ratbastard might mistake me for someone uninsured and get out his shotgun and shoot me dead.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 02, 2012, 11:54:46 am
we were incredibly lucky.  we lost power for about 20-30 minutes during the storm, then lost it again for about 20 minutes yeterday (sunday) afternoon.  otherwise the lights have been on.  counting our lucky stars.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 02, 2012, 11:58:01 am
34 hours without power. Two people killed within a mile of my house. Unfortunately for you guys, I survived.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on July 02, 2012, 12:00:43 pm
My power came on finally this morning after I left for work.  All in all not too bad of a weekend.  Kids were troopers throughout.  Wife was out of town so she was spared.

Lots of houses in my neighborhood damaged severely by huge fallen trees.  We are lucky.  Cant wait to return home to AC.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 02, 2012, 02:23:46 pm
I was without power for about 18 hours.  Thanks to my hard work and the personal responsibility I took in making a wise decision, I own a generator.  I have been running with power the whole time.  And to think I didn't even need Bammy to pass a law requiring everyone to buy a generator or a program for the gummint to give me a "free" one!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 02, 2012, 02:32:18 pm
I was without power for about 18 hours.  Thanks to my hard work and the personal responsibility I took in making a wise decision, I own a generator.  I have been running with power the whole time.  And to think I didn't even need Bammy to pass a law requiring everyone to buy a generator or a program for the gummint to give me a "free" one!
are you sayin those that don't own a generator are not responsible?


you really take the cake... at at time when people are strugglin and dying you come in with your gloating i'm responsible you're not baloney over a natural disaster? turning it into an anti-Obama screed?.. there's been some real assholes on this site but you are numero 1 you fucking LUMP OF SHIT.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on July 02, 2012, 03:16:00 pm
Same for those people in Colorado.  I've got NO pity for those folks that did not buy a fire bubble for their house like my Uncle Frank did. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Bombay Chutney on July 02, 2012, 03:38:30 pm
Power came back about an hour ago.  woohoo!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 02, 2012, 04:04:03 pm
I'm pondering whether to run the Baltimore Marathon, which would necessitate skipping the Jens Lekman show the night before. I did already see Jens with full band at smaller venue for half the price, and no new material since that time.

Alternatively, I could run the Richmond Marathon in November, but maybe that's not a good idea. If I were to require some medical attention, some redneck Virginia ratbastard might mistake me for someone uninsured and get out his shotgun and shoot me dead.

The Baltimore 1/2 was really fun last year.  I am running the full this year.  It's hilly.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 02, 2012, 05:49:00 pm
I was without power for about 18 hours.  Thanks to my hard work and the personal responsibility I took in making a wise decision, I own a generator.  I have been running with power the whole time.  And to think I didn't even need Bammy to pass a law requiring everyone to buy a generator or a program for the gummint to give me a "free" one!

This whole survival of the fitness thing you got going is pretty cool.  So maybe I should just steal your generator.  After all we don't need no laws protecting your property from others.  I might have been wise enough to buy a baseball bat and use it to disable you from preventing me from taking your generator and you have health care coverage so I won't feel too bad about your concussion.   And then I could post on here if you want electricity you should have been resposible enough to buy a baseball bat. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 02, 2012, 07:16:59 pm
I lost my power for about 6 hrs on Friday night. Can't complain that much.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 02, 2012, 07:25:34 pm
i lost . . . my virginity once when the power went out all night.  god i remember it just like it was yesterday.  best four hours in a bed, ever.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 03, 2012, 03:28:40 pm
Is there any band where each one of its members wrote hit songs?
other than Queen, I mean.

Freddie - Boho Rhapsody
Brian - We Will Rock You
Roger - Radio Gaga
John - Another One Bites the Dust

I can't think of one, and remember that Ringo didn't really write any hits
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 03, 2012, 03:35:26 pm
"Yellow Submarine" was pretty big. Didn't he write that?


Edit: I guess not.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on July 03, 2012, 03:46:16 pm
Hall AND Oats.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on July 03, 2012, 03:47:55 pm
The Band. 

But they didn't really have hits.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 03, 2012, 07:02:48 pm
who needs hits . . . when you are the band.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 03, 2012, 08:20:46 pm
Robbie Robertson wrote all of the Band's hits, didn't he?
And Oates didn't write anything on his own.
Anyway, you can't just throw out band names, you've gotta list the HIT songs each member wrote. Otherwise I'm right/God
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 03, 2012, 09:16:31 pm
Fleetwood Mac

Don't Stop - Christine McVie

Dreams - Stevie Nicks

Go Your Own Way - Lindsey Buckingham

The Chain - all 5 of them


Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 03, 2012, 09:33:53 pm
The Mac is a good one but I don't buy into this 'the whole band wrote it' thing. Lindsey wrote The Chain, the others probably prosed some lines and ideas, and maybe John McVie was in the room at the time. I'm only interested in self-contained bands, as in not a Steely Dan thing where its a couple dudes and session musicians, and songs that are only credited to one person. Queen really was pretty unique this way.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 03, 2012, 09:41:49 pm
well it's 3 out of 5 for Fleetwood Mac..that's still pretty good
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 03, 2012, 09:44:12 pm
I was without power for about 18 hours.  Thanks to my hard work and the personal responsibility I took in making a wise decision, I own a generator.  I have been running with power the whole time.  And to think I didn't even need Bammy to pass a law requiring everyone to buy a generator or a program for the gummint to give me a "free" one!
are you sayin those that don't own a generator are not responsible?


you really take the cake... at at time when people are strugglin and dying you come in with your gloating i'm responsible you're not baloney over a natural disaster? turning it into an anti-Obama screed?.. there's been some real assholes on this site but you are numero 1 you fucking LUMP OF SHIT.



Just rattling some cages poking some fun.  Lighten up dude, you are seriously going to have a coronary before too long, which I guess will be my fault and I'll have to pay your hospital bills! :): ) :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 03, 2012, 09:45:56 pm
I was without power for about 18 hours.  Thanks to my hard work and the personal responsibility I took in making a wise decision, I own a generator.  I have been running with power the whole time.  And to think I didn't even need Bammy to pass a law requiring everyone to buy a generator or a program for the gummint to give me a "free" one!

This whole survival of the fitness thing you got going is pretty cool.  So maybe I should just steal your generator.  After all we don't need no laws protecting your property from others.  I might have been wise enough to buy a baseball bat and use it to disable you from preventing me from taking your generator and you have health care coverage so I won't feel too bad about your concussion.   And then I could post on here if you want electricity you should have been resposible enough to buy a baseball bat. 

LOL well thought out retort there my friend!  Except you are banking on the concept that I was not wise enough to purchase some level of personal protection greater than a baseball bat... :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 03, 2012, 09:47:45 pm
Fleetwood Mac

Don't Stop - Christine McVie

Dreams - Stevie Nicks

Go Your Own Way - Lindsey Buckingham

The Chain - all 5 of them


Has Stevie's whiskey voice started going away yet (thus making her much more tolerable) or has it just gotten moreso with age? 

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 03, 2012, 10:26:49 pm
The Eagles

Don Henley-numerous
Glen Frey-numerous
Timothy B Schmidt- I Can't Tell You Why (cowriter)
Don Felder-Hotel California (cowriter)
Bernie Leadon-Witchy Woman (cowriter)
Randy Meisner-Take it To the Limit (cowriter)
Joe Walsh-Life in the Fast Lane (cowriter)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 03, 2012, 10:46:37 pm
CSNY

Crosby-Deja Vu
Stills-Suite Judy Blue Eyes
Nash=Our House
Young-Ohio
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 03, 2012, 11:21:22 pm
More Mac:
Bob Welch "Hypnotized" "Sentimental Lady"
Peter Green "Oh Well"
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 03, 2012, 11:25:33 pm
The Eagles

Don Henley-numerous
Glen Frey-numerous
Timothy B Schmidt- I Can't Tell You Why (cowriter)
Don Felder-Hotel California (cowriter)
Bernie Leadon-Witchy Woman (cowriter)
Randy Meisner-Take it To the Limit (cowriter)
Joe Walsh-Life in the Fast Lane (cowriter)

Felder, Henley, Frey - Those Shoes, one of the best Eagle songs ever...  Quit deeper meanings to the tune!  You can't do that once you started wearing those shoes.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 03, 2012, 11:26:13 pm
CSNY

Crosby-Deja Vu
Stills-Suite Judy Blue Eyes
Nash=Our House
Young-Ohio

One of the best music quotes ever - "We're scared shitless"
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 03, 2012, 11:28:01 pm
Is there any band where each one of its members wrote hit songs?
other than Queen, I mean.

Freddie - Boho Rhapsody
Brian - We Will Rock You
Roger - Radio Gaga
John - Another One Bites the Dust

I can't think of one, and remember that Ringo didn't really write any hits

Not that it is any degree of a hit, but RS wrote Octopus's Garden to my knowledge.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 04, 2012, 01:19:44 am
All I can say to this is WOW!

http://news.yahoo.com/three-daddies-california-eyes-multiple-parenting-law-180202060--abc-news-health.html

I just wish CA would go ahead and fall into the Pacific and take all of its citizens right along with it.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 04, 2012, 02:09:10 am
^How would this affect you in any way? Why would it bother you? You right wingers are so hung up on "individual liberty" but only if it fits your definition of the term.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on July 04, 2012, 10:48:59 am
Finally the Full House male adults can all be co-dads!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 04, 2012, 11:37:30 am
^How would this affect you in any way? Why would it bother you? You right wingers are so hung up on "individual liberty" but only if it fits your definition of the term.

That would affect everyone.  BTW I never mentioned 'individual liberty', I mention personal responsibility.  Just remember that as with freedom, ones 'personal liberty' ends where the next person's begins.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 04, 2012, 11:39:05 am
Happy 4th of July to EVERYONE of my fellow Americans.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 04, 2012, 02:34:20 pm
Happy 4th of July to EVERYONE of my fellow Americans just so long as you're white, straight, christian and republican.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 04, 2012, 02:37:02 pm
Happy 4th of July to EVERYONE of my fellow Americans just so long as you're white, straight, christian and republican.

you know . . . some white, christian, straight republicans, are really really really hot and delicious.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 04, 2012, 02:39:35 pm
How?
And for that matter, how does legal gay marriage affect you? I'm guessing you are opposed to that, too.
That would affect everyone. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 04, 2012, 02:44:03 pm
i believe all marriages should be something you have to qualify for, based on intelligence tests / income / job security / six month waiting periods with head doctor appointments / and a legal binding contract you are forced to sign that if you get divorced, you have one of your arms or legs cut off.  the end.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 04, 2012, 03:58:47 pm
Happy 4th of July to EVERYONE of my fellow Americans just so long as you're white, straight, christian and republican.

Sad that you feel that way... Its good that not all of us do!  (FYI your restrictive factors would count me out)  ;) 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 04, 2012, 03:59:47 pm
i believe all marriages should be something you have to qualify for, based on intelligence tests / income / job security / six month waiting periods with head doctor appointments / and a legal binding contract you are forced to sign that if you get divorced, you have one of your arms or legs cut off.  the end.

I always did wonder why there is (in most states) a 6-12 month waiting period for a divorce, but you can married instantly.  Seems backwards to me!  :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 04, 2012, 04:05:34 pm
How?
And for that matter, how does legal gay marriage affect you? I'm guessing you are opposed to that, too.
That would affect everyone. 


Actually I am.  However it has nothing to do with religion, hate, or any of the other crutch arguments that the pro side usually hurls.  On the other hand, I do believe that there are many rights, etc tied to marriage that ought not be.  The thing we need to do is attach those rights where they belong and remove them from marriage.  In reality, what is desired is the rights not merely the title.  People are free to call themselves whatever they wish.

I've discussed all of that ad nauseam, no need to get into that long protracted debate again (unless you really want to).  You are free to believe as you wish and I sincerely hope that whatever your beliefs are make you happy.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 04, 2012, 04:07:05 pm
Happy 4th of July to EVERYONE of my fellow Americans just so long as you're white, straight, christian and republican.

you know . . . some white, christian, straight republicans, are really really really hot and delicious.

I can ALWAYS count on you walky to make me laugh.  I damn near spit Dr Pepper all over my monitor just now...  :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 04, 2012, 05:18:21 pm
Dr Pepper=bad lifestyle choice.

 ;)

Happy 4th of July to EVERYONE of my fellow Americans just so long as you're white, straight, christian and republican.

you know . . . some white, christian, straight republicans, are really really really hot and delicious.

I can ALWAYS count on you walky to make me laugh.  I damn near spit Dr Pepper all over my monitor just now...  :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 04, 2012, 05:21:23 pm
Dr Pepper=bad lifestyle choice.

 ;)

Happy 4th of July to EVERYONE of my fellow Americans just so long as you're white, straight, christian and republican.

you know . . . some white, christian, straight republicans, are really really really hot and delicious.

I can ALWAYS count on you walky to make me laugh.  I damn near spit Dr Pepper all over my monitor just now...  :)

Not as bad as my choice of Mt Dew!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 04, 2012, 09:26:17 pm
We are all climate test dummies. (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/07/02/510147/we-are-all-climate-test-dummies-now-providing-data-on-how-humans-respond-to-extreme-weather/?mobile=nc)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 06, 2012, 07:37:06 am
so . . . how were those disco biscuits and their lovely bunch of fans?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 06, 2012, 09:46:22 am
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/30/the-busy-trap/ (http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/30/the-busy-trap/)

great opinion on everybody's false sense of importance.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 06, 2012, 12:33:00 pm
PT is down but you already knew that.

so . . . how were those disco biscuits and their lovely bunch of fans?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 06, 2012, 03:11:09 pm
What will happen next? What a trainwreck this thing is. (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2012/07/crew_member_of.html)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 06, 2012, 05:30:42 pm
Discovery of the Higgs Boson and dark matter in the same week? Kind of a huge week for scientists. (http://gizmodo.com/5923832/scientists-observe-the-mysterious-hidden-structure-of-the-universe-for-the-first-time-ever)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 06, 2012, 06:48:08 pm
Chris Cristie's buffonary will never cease to amaze me. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/06/chris-christie-jersey-shore_n_1654583.html)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 07, 2012, 12:24:27 am
Chris Cristie's buffonary will never cease to amaze me. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/06/chris-christie-jersey-shore_n_1654583.html)


what amazes me are that liberal friends of mine LIKE him.. they think he's a straight talker or something.. will "get things done"

he's a horse's ass! and if you ask me he's also a bully...

i'm seriously having trouble comprehending what people see in him?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on July 07, 2012, 09:31:36 am
Between Christie and the cast of Jersey Shore, I'm more and more believing that our greatest natural border is the Delaware Bay which separates New Jersey from the DelMarVa peninsula. I use to bitch about how expensive the Lewes/Cape May ferry is but now I'm realizing that that's a blessing in disguise.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 07, 2012, 10:17:42 am
Oops, that should be buffoonery.


But yeah, he's a disgusting waste of space that belongs in some random NJ living room in front of a TV surrounded by beer cans. Not in the governor's mansion of any state.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 07, 2012, 12:26:09 pm
Oh boy. Here we go. (http://phantasytour.com/bands/4/topics/3150311/posts)

so . . . how were those disco biscuits and their lovely bunch of fans?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 07, 2012, 02:26:58 pm
Oh boy. Here we go. (http://phantasytour.com/bands/4/topics/3150311/posts)

so . . . how were those disco biscuits and their lovely bunch of fans?

what i expected . . . nothing more to see.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 08, 2012, 05:06:51 pm
In listening to the new, kinda boring Hives album, it makes me think they should reinvent themselves as a "punk rock" kids band, like a hardcore version of the Wiggles. They've pretty much taken the indie rock thing as far as they're going to take it, and this could extend their career another 5-10 years.

They've got the wacky synchronized outfits happening, and their sound these days is way watered down while still being somewhat catchy. I'm pretty smart so they should take my advice.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 08, 2012, 05:11:33 pm
Worked for They Might be Giants.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on July 10, 2012, 10:40:41 am
From U ST Music Hall Facebook:
Quote
Saturday night at U Street Music Hall
by Will Eastman on Monday, July 9, 2012 at 4:58pm ·

Dear friends,

It's just come to my attention that Saturday night a security guard hired on contract at U Street Music Hall attempted to ask two men to leave the club for dancing with one another in a sexual manner. I'm aghast at hearing this. While the security guard was fired on the spot, I want to take this opportunity to say that I apologize to our community, especially our friends in the LGBT community, and I'm working right now to ensure this never happens at the club again.

As we expected a large crowd and long line Sat we brought in extra security on contract. This was a guard who evidently wasn't familiar with our culture at U Hall and had never worked at the space. If I were there I would have fired him myself and given him a few choice words. I don't know what else to say other than everyone at U Hall is just completely floored that this happened. I want to commend our two staff security guards who stepped in and prevented anyone being from being made to leave and our GM who made sure this individual was fired.

Hearing this situation breaks my heart to know that for two men just out having a good time at a night that was all about inclusion and feeling good about life and the future someone representing U Hall acted in a disrespectful and biased manner. U Hall supports everyone's rights and we'll continue to do so as long as we're around. If anyone knows the individuals who were approached by the security guard please ask them to contact me so that I can offer them a personal apology. I would DJ and host a free night at U Hall for them and all their friends and DJs in our community. Shirts not allowed.

If anyone has any questions or concerns or if you experience anything that just ain't right at U Hall please reach out to me directly at will@ustreetmusichall.com and I will do my best to address it immediately. Thank you to everyone who came out to the club over the weekend and thank you for helping make U Hall a supportive, inclusive and forward-thinking environment.

Will
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 10, 2012, 10:45:05 am
below
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 10, 2012, 10:45:37 am
Why would they think it appropriate the dance in a sexual manner?

If I go to a show, I have no desire the see two or more people start grinding on the floor, especially if they are ugly. Doesn't matter to me what their gender or orientation is. There are other venues for that kind of activity.

From U ST Music Hall Facebook:
Quote
Saturday night at U Street Music Hall
by Will Eastman on Monday, July 9, 2012 at 4:58pm ·

Dear friends,

It's just come to my attention that Saturday night a security guard hired on contract at U Street Music Hall attempted to ask two men to leave the club for dancing with one another in a sexual manner. I'm aghast at hearing this. While the security guard was fired on the spot, I want to take this opportunity to say that I apologize to our community, especially our friends in the LGBT community, and I'm working right now to ensure this never happens at the club again.

As we expected a large crowd and long line Sat we brought in extra security on contract. This was a guard who evidently wasn't familiar with our culture at U Hall and had never worked at the space. If I were there I would have fired him myself and given him a few choice words. I don't know what else to say other than everyone at U Hall is just completely floored that this happened. I want to commend our two staff security guards who stepped in and prevented anyone being from being made to leave and our GM who made sure this individual was fired.

Hearing this situation breaks my heart to know that for two men just out having a good time at a night that was all about inclusion and feeling good about life and the future someone representing U Hall acted in a disrespectful and biased manner. U Hall supports everyone's rights and we'll continue to do so as long as we're around. If anyone knows the individuals who were approached by the security guard please ask them to contact me so that I can offer them a personal apology. I would DJ and host a free night at U Hall for them and all their friends and DJs in our community. Shirts not allowed.

If anyone has any questions or concerns or if you experience anything that just ain't right at U Hall please reach out to me directly at will@ustreetmusichall.com and I will do my best to address it immediately. Thank you to everyone who came out to the club over the weekend and thank you for helping make U Hall a supportive, inclusive and forward-thinking environment.

Will
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on July 10, 2012, 10:48:07 am
Im pretty sure it was a DANCE party with DJs and people DANCING, and not a bunch of people standing around with their hands in their pockets talking loudly while waiting for some alt country band to perform.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 10, 2012, 10:54:58 am
Ya gotta draw the line somewhere...were patrons warned that dancing in a sexual manner was not appropriate?


Im pretty sure it was a DANCE party with DJs and people DANCING, and not a bunch of people standing around with their hands in their pockets talking loudly while waiting for some alt country band to perform.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 10, 2012, 10:56:24 am
Robyn DJ set. I'm sure lots of gay men were there

Im pretty sure it was a DANCE party with DJs and people DANCING, and not a bunch of people standing around with their hands in their pockets talking loudly while waiting for some alt country band to perform.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 10, 2012, 10:58:12 am
Im pretty sure it was a DANCE party with DJs and people DANCING, and not a bunch of people standing around with their hands in their pockets talking loudly while waiting for some alt country band to perform.


Alt-Country is the worst genre of music in the history of music.  Anyway if James Ford doesn't like people grinding on each other maybe he should just not  look at them.  And why should his judgement of their attractiveness matter.  First his comment on Muse and now this.  He does know how to annoy.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 10, 2012, 11:02:52 am
From U ST Music Hall Facebook:

that was pretty classy of USMH.

Why would they think it appropriate the dance in a sexual manner?

If I go to a show, I have no desire the see two or more people start grinding on the floor, especially if they are ugly. Doesn't matter to me what their gender or orientation is. There are other venues for that kind of activity.

reaching much?

it's a dance club.  people making out on a dancefloor or otherwise "dancing sexually" is a regular occurrence.  and while you might not want to see it, it's not grounds for being kicked out.  at most security could ask for a little decorum, if the club's decorum doesn't allow for such behavior, but it's not something you should be ejected for.  and i suspect the subtext here is that they were called out because they were two men and not a hetero couple.  as the co-owner wrote, discriminating against gays isn't something they do.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 10, 2012, 11:05:05 am
He does know how to annoy.

correct.  it's called trolling.  right now he's probably giggling at how he successfully managed to stir this little pot.  well played, james.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 10, 2012, 11:58:23 am
James Ford accidentally mistakes a strip bar for a Men's Wearhouse.

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llks7poJ2A1qh3nqj.gif)

"AAAAAHHH MOTHER HELP"
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: wml7 on July 10, 2012, 12:03:29 pm
haha, good one  ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on July 10, 2012, 12:39:33 pm
Im pretty sure it was a DANCE party with DJs and people DANCING, and not a bunch of people standing around with their hands in their pockets talking loudly while waiting for some alt country band to perform.

POTW!

James needs to move to one of those Dirty Dancing kind of counties where the only thumping that goes on involves bibles. There probably won't be any Alt-Country but they've got plenty of good old boy real Country music, but mostly of the baaing about sheep type. (I don't know any of the names of the songs but the ones that intertwine sheep and bibles in the name of the Lord.)

That was a class response, Will. Good for you and the U Hall!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 10, 2012, 12:56:03 pm
Why not just go to a sex club, a swingers club, or an orgy if you're looking to show with your partner or bump and grind random strangers in a public setting?

I'm not a dance club person, but isn't it quite possible that many dance club patrons go there simply to dance rather than to simulate sex or have to watch others do so.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 10, 2012, 01:36:09 pm
"Dance club" has meant little more than "meat market" for decades now. That's just what happens there. And like others have mentioned, the couple in question were only kicked out because they were of the same gender; the security guard in question probably left a fair amount of straight couples doing the same thing alone.


Side note: above is perfect example of why using contracted security is never a good idea.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 10, 2012, 01:46:14 pm
Isn't it kind of a judgement call as to what his intentions were? Was the guy questioned about his intentions, or just fired on the spot? So the bottom line for security is you can never throw two gay guys (or two or more of anybody) out of a dance club if they are behaving in a sexual manner?

"Dance club" has meant little more than "meat market" for decades now. That's just what happens there. And like others have mentioned, the couple in question were only kicked out because they were of the same gender; the security guard in question probably left a fair amount of straight couples doing the same thing alone.


Side note: above is perfect example of why using contracted security is never a good idea.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 10, 2012, 02:07:12 pm
As long as any 'rules' are applied equally to all patrons, the act of asking these two guests to leave, in and of itself, is not offensive.  If the 'rules' are not applied equally, the fact that it involved any specific individual guests and their personal attributes is not of consequence.

The story, as it is written, is incomplete.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 10, 2012, 02:12:12 pm
It's not gay if there's a girl in the room.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 10, 2012, 03:38:56 pm
only gay people decide what gay people do . . . straight people can fuck off on the subject, actually.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 10, 2012, 08:11:01 pm
only gay people decide what gay people do . . . straight people can fuck off on the subject, actually.



LOL that's the funniest post I have read here in over a decade.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: slappy on July 11, 2012, 11:54:07 am
(http://gifs.gifbin.com/1232457859_97682d1231719029-animated-gif-thread-123171542332.gif)

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on July 11, 2012, 12:49:34 pm
Did you know that in Japanese Pro Wrestling, they have people with gay gimmicks? When will the WWE embrace such openness?

The Top Ten Moves of Danshoku Dino
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZVzASQJwtE

Hard Gay (yes his name is Hard Gay)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W2LKPZi_vR4
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on July 11, 2012, 01:57:26 pm
Let's hope that Rhett/James doesn't end up on this jury!

Couple Suing NYC After Being Arrested Last Year In Subway Dancing Episode (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/07/10/couple-suing-nyc-after-being-arrested-last-year-in-subway-dancing-episode)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 11, 2012, 03:05:22 pm
Looking forward to this book:

Bad Vibrations: The History of the Idea of Music as a Cause of Disease (http://www.ashgate.com/default.aspx?page=637&calcTitle=1&isbn=9781409426424&lang=cy-GB)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 12, 2012, 12:51:24 am
Just found out today that I have to go in and have two more surgeries on my knees.  They are going to go in and do arthroscopic surgery to clean things out and make a plan of attack for full blown replacement.  I had bilateral partial replacements done four years ago and off all the surgeries I have had (including several cranial procedures and triple spinal fusion) the recovery from knee surgery was by far the hardest and most painful.  Hello hydrocodone!  I seriously think that when I die I am going to donate my body to science.....  ..... fiction!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 12, 2012, 07:55:54 am
Can we swap Ohio, Florida, Arizona and Texas for Australia?  So much great funk music coming out of the land down under these days, shame it so far for those band to travel to bring their goodness here.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Yada on July 12, 2012, 10:00:17 am
Just found out today that I have to go in and have two more surgeries on my knees.  They are going to go in and do arthroscopic surgery to clean things out and make a plan of attack for full blown replacement.  I had bilateral partial replacements done four years ago and off all the surgeries I have had (including several cranial procedures and triple spinal fusion) the recovery from knee surgery was by far the hardest and most painful.  Hello hydrocodone!  I seriously think that when I die I am going to donate my body to science.....  ..... fiction!

Good thing you planned ahead for health insurance!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Mobius on July 12, 2012, 10:22:15 am
Did you know that in Japanese Pro Wrestling, they have people with gay gimmicks? When will the WWE embrace such openness?






Adorable Adrian Adonis!!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 12, 2012, 10:44:16 am
Did you know that in Japanese Pro Wrestling, they have people with gay gimmicks? When will the WWE embrace such openness?






Adorable Adrian Adonis!!

don't forget

(http://lydiarghgrace.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/gold-dust.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 12, 2012, 10:48:55 am
Just found out today that I have to go in and have two more surgeries on my knees.  They are going to go in and do arthroscopic surgery to clean things out and make a plan of attack for full blown replacement.  I had bilateral partial replacements done four years ago and off all the surgeries I have had (including several cranial procedures and triple spinal fusion) the recovery from knee surgery was by far the hardest and most painful.  Hello hydrocodone!  I seriously think that when I die I am going to donate my body to science.....  ..... fiction!

Good thing you planned ahead for health insurance!


Even better that it is happening now before bammy gets to decide what doctor i get to go to and if i even qualify to get in line and wait 2½ years to get my surgery done by some gummint hack doctor.  But then again it would be 'free'.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 12, 2012, 12:26:09 pm
Even better that it is happening now before bammy gets to decide what doctor i get to go to and if i even qualify to get in line and wait 2½ years to get my surgery done by some gummint hack doctor.  But then again it would be 'free'.

you're hard enough to take seriously without making shit up.  but if your goal is to make a laughing stock out of your opinions, then please carry on.

BTW, you forgot to mention the mandatory review by a Death Panel.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 12, 2012, 12:54:32 pm
Even better that it is happening now before bammy gets to decide what doctor i get to go to and if i even qualify to get in line and wait 2½ years to get my surgery done by some gummint hack doctor.  But then again it would be 'free'.

you're hard enough to take seriously without making shit up.  but if your goal is to make a laughing stock out of your opinions, then please carry on.

BTW, you forgot to mention the mandatory review by a Death Panel.

Its impossible to talk with this guy.. if you call him out he'll say he was just pulling your leg.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 12, 2012, 01:08:38 pm
I'd take New Zealand over Australia and would throw Kansas and Wyoming into the trade, too.

Although you're right about a ton of great stuff coming from Australia at the moment. I figure that Royal Headache LP would be up your alley. You get around to that?

Can we swap Ohio, Florida, Arizona and Texas for Australia?  So much great funk music coming out of the land down under these days, shame it so far for those band to travel to bring their goodness here.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 12, 2012, 01:48:02 pm
Wyoming is a keeper. You've obviously never seen the Grand Teton Mountains. Simply stunning.

I'd take New Zealand over Australia and would throw Kansas and Wyoming into the trade, too.

Although you're right about a ton of great stuff coming from Australia at the moment. I figure that Royal Headache LP would be up your alley. You get around to that?

Can we swap Ohio, Florida, Arizona and Texas for Australia?  So much great funk music coming out of the land down under these days, shame it so far for those band to travel to bring their goodness here.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 12, 2012, 02:08:19 pm
Mittens flew in African Americans to act as a cheering section to the NAACP convention yesterday. (http://www.politicususa.com/mitt-romney-rig-naacp-crowd-flying-african-americans.html)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 12, 2012, 02:24:46 pm
Living Social trying to relive 1925. (http://is.gd/cPNfFB)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 12, 2012, 02:43:18 pm
Just found out today that I have to go in and have two more surgeries on my knees.  They are going to go in and do arthroscopic surgery to clean things out and make a plan of attack for full blown replacement.  I had bilateral partial replacements done four years ago and off all the surgeries I have had (including several cranial procedures and triple spinal fusion) the recovery from knee surgery was by far the hardest and most painful.  Hello hydrocodone!  I seriously think that when I die I am going to donate my body to science.....  ..... fiction!

Good thing you planned ahead for health insurance!


Even better that it is happening now before bammy gets to decide what doctor i get to go to and if i even qualify to get in line and wait 2½ years to get my surgery done by some gummint hack doctor.  But then again it would be 'free'.

Sucks that us other insurance holders have to help pay for your bad knees when you could have planned a head and had a healthier lifestyle and wouldn't need knee surgery. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: slappy on July 12, 2012, 04:23:10 pm
I'd take New Zealand over Australia and would throw Kansas and Wyoming into the trade, too.

Although you're right about a ton of great stuff coming from Australia at the moment. I figure that Royal Headache LP would be up your alley. You get around to that?

Can we swap Ohio, Florida, Arizona and Texas for Australia?  So much great funk music coming out of the land down under these days, shame it so far for those band to travel to bring their goodness here.

I was thinking the same thing.
Electric Wire Hustle, Julien Dyne, Ladi6, Shapeshifter, ... Fat Freddy?s Drop
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 12, 2012, 05:34:53 pm
Mittens flew in African Americans to act as a cheering section to the NAACP convention yesterday.
 (http://www.politicususa.com/mitt-romney-rig-naacp-crowd-flying-african-americans.html)

You know if you invite someone to speak before you maybe you shouldn't boo them. Have some class or don't invite him.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 12, 2012, 05:55:26 pm
Was he invited, or did he ask to speak? Also, just because the organizers think something is a good idea doesn't meant the crowd/attendees will. Maybe Romney should have flown in his own rent-a-crowd.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 12, 2012, 06:48:33 pm
I'd take New Zealand over Australia and would throw Kansas and Wyoming into the trade, too.

Although you're right about a ton of great stuff coming from Australia at the moment. I figure that Royal Headache LP would be up your alley. You get around to that?

Can we swap Ohio, Florida, Arizona and Texas for Australia?  So much great funk music coming out of the land down under these days, shame it so far for those band to travel to bring their goodness here.

I was listening to stream of the new Cactus Channel this morning, just another of several top notch aussie funk outfits at the moment.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 12, 2012, 10:14:01 pm
It's a tradition of theirs to invite both candidates to speak at their convention when it's an election year.
And yeah, it's not like the organizers were booing.

Was he invited, or did he ask to speak? Also, just because the organizers think something is a good idea doesn't meant the crowd/attendees will. Maybe Romney should have flown in his own rent-a-crowd.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 13, 2012, 01:16:52 am
And yeah, it's not like the organizers were booing.

putting Romney in front of the crowd and seeing what happens may well have been their intention - "let's let this play out and get it on record".  and would you look at that, the predictable happened.  even Romney stated that he expected boos (post-facto obviously).
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 13, 2012, 01:20:03 am
Frank Ocean's 'Channel Orange' Won't Be Sold at Target
http://www.spin.com/articles/frank-oceans-channel-orange-wont-be-sold-target
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 13, 2012, 02:45:19 am
Just found out today that I have to go in and have two more surgeries on my knees.  They are going to go in and do arthroscopic surgery to clean things out and make a plan of attack for full blown replacement.  I had bilateral partial replacements done four years ago and off all the surgeries I have had (including several cranial procedures and triple spinal fusion) the recovery from knee surgery was by far the hardest and most painful.  Hello hydrocodone!  I seriously think that when I die I am going to donate my body to science.....  ..... fiction!

Good thing you planned ahead for health insurance!


Even better that it is happening now before bammy gets to decide what doctor i get to go to and if i even qualify to get in line and wait 2½ years to get my surgery done by some gummint hack doctor.  But then again it would be 'free'.

Sucks that us other insurance holders have to help pay for your bad knees when you could have planned a head and had a healthier lifestyle and wouldn't need knee surgery. 


Has nothing to do with lifestyle.  It is congenital.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 15, 2012, 08:10:35 pm
So I was running on the Mall last week, and there was this black guy holding a sign.

The sign read:

Marriage's alway's 1 man+1 woman.

And I thought to myself...man, it would really be fun if walkonby was on this run with me.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 15, 2012, 08:50:37 pm
Frank Ocean's 'Channel Orange' Won't Be Sold at Target
http://www.spin.com/articles/frank-oceans-channel-orange-wont-be-sold-target

never forget the day target took a stance against early digital releases and profiting. 

yeah... i'm sure that's what it's all about, target.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 15, 2012, 10:25:20 pm
So I was running on the Mall last week, and there was this black guy holding a sign.

The sign read:

Marriage's alway's 1 man+1 woman.

And I thought to myself...man, it would really be fun if walkonby was on this run with me.

like i would waste my time with running.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 15, 2012, 11:57:32 pm
You thought the $20 sandwich at Pepe's was bad; meet the Doucheburger. (http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/07/a-passive-aggressive-burger.html)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 16, 2012, 02:12:19 am
Even better that it is happening now before bammy gets to decide what doctor i get to go to and if i even qualify to get in line and wait 2½ years to get my surgery done by some gummint hack doctor.  But then again it would be 'free'.

you're hard enough to take seriously without making shit up.  but if your goal is to make a laughing stock out of your opinions, then please carry on.

BTW, you forgot to mention the mandatory review by a Death Panel.

Not made up at all.  In all socialized medical systems, you wait in line forever for damn near everything.  You have to use government approved doctors and facilities, and they always take the absolute cheapest treatment option available.  In my case it would be to walk with crutches or get a wheelchair rather than to actually FIX the problem and get my quality of life back.  There are no death panels per se, but it will not be up to me and my doctor what treatment plans I get any more.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 16, 2012, 12:09:50 pm
Jesus F'ing H Christ if ANYONE still thinks Bammy is not a socialist all I have to say is this...

"President Obama, in a speech to supporters, suggested business owners owe their success to government investment in infrastructure and other projects -- saying 'if you?ve got a business, you didn?t build that.'?

Wow how just plain fucking arrogant can one man be?  Wow and I thought Bono was a megalomaniac, this fucktard takes the cake, no he takes the whole damn bakery.  Alas some will still be stupid enough to vote for him in November!


Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 16, 2012, 12:18:02 pm
Do you subscribe to the theory that Obama is going to declare martial law, suspend the election, and declare himself a dictator?

Jesus F'ing H Christ if ANYONE still thinks Bammy is not a socialist all I have to say is this...

"President Obama, in a speech to supporters, suggested business owners owe their success to government investment in infrastructure and other projects -- saying 'if you?ve got a business, you didn?t build that.'?

Wow how just plain fucking arrogant can one man be?  Wow and I thought Bono was a megalomaniac, this fucktard takes the cake, no he takes the whole damn bakery.  Alas some will still be stupid enough to vote for him in November!



Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: imbecile on July 16, 2012, 01:23:56 pm
Jesus F'ing H Christ if ANYONE still thinks Bammy is not a socialist all I have to say is this...

"President Obama, in a speech to supporters, suggested business owners owe their success to government investment in infrastructure and other projects -- saying 'if you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that.'”

Wow how just plain fucking arrogant can one man be?  Wow and I thought Bono was a megalomaniac, this fucktard takes the cake, no he takes the whole damn bakery.  Alas some will still be stupid enough to vote for him in November!


*YAWN*

I'm curious, who do you think builds sewers, water lines, the electrical grid, the highway transportation system, the internet, or any of the other stuff businesses, let alone people, need on a daily basis in our society?  Do you think there are infrastructure fairies or dwarves or something that build and maintain this shit in the middle of the night absolutely free of charge?

The government (Bammy, to you) collects money from people (taxes) and uses this money to build the above mentioned items, which we all get to use (social ownership).  They do this in our best interest, because not many people (especially you) are going to volunteer to pay for something that does not solely benefit themselves.  You get to use it to voice your opinion about "Bammy," businesses get to use it to attract clients and transport goods, I use it to drive to work to make money, so I can use other parts of it to spend said money at the 930 club, etc etc.  We are all socialist, this is not new.

Name me a single business that could exist without the above mentioned infrastructure being provided for them.   
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on July 16, 2012, 02:05:01 pm
http://www.billboard.com/news/passion-pit-cancel-tour-dates-1007588152.story#/news/passion-pit-cancel-tour-dates-1007588152.story (http://www.billboard.com/news/passion-pit-cancel-tour-dates-1007588152.story#/news/passion-pit-cancel-tour-dates-1007588152.story)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 16, 2012, 02:07:43 pm
How does posting a link to a story constitute a "random thought"?

http://www.billboard.com/news/passion-pit-cancel-tour-dates-1007588152.story#/news/passion-pit-cancel-tour-dates-1007588152.story (http://www.billboard.com/news/passion-pit-cancel-tour-dates-1007588152.story#/news/passion-pit-cancel-tour-dates-1007588152.story)

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on July 16, 2012, 02:35:26 pm
My thought at the aforementioned link is:
"Damn that sucks that he is having mental health issues.  I do not like the band but hope he is alright."

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 16, 2012, 02:58:48 pm
Frank Ocean's 'Channel Orange' Won't Be Sold at Target
http://www.spin.com/articles/frank-oceans-channel-orange-wont-be-sold-target

never forget the day target took a stance against early digital releases and profiting. 

yeah... i'm sure that's what it's all about, target.

Some chains don't like it when others get exclusives or early release. If it was released early to independent stores then there probably wouldn't be much hubbub. iTunes is not an independent by any stretch. When I worked at Tower we pulled all of Lenny Kravitz's releases when his label released an exclusive at another chain: Target.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 16, 2012, 03:59:33 pm
personally . . . i don't think he is gay at all.  rather quite a unique form of self promotion that has blown his name/marketability up.  who cared about this billy ocean's gay brother until now?  he can promote this shit for years.  first it was "blackface" . . . now it is "fagface."  he never has to admit the truth except to the rest in that retarded children band.  fucking pitchfork is acting like he is the next saviour of music.   
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 16, 2012, 05:01:37 pm
have you listened to his album?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 16, 2012, 05:58:24 pm
is it on spotify yet . . . i'm all up in me some spotify.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 16, 2012, 06:29:41 pm
Jesus F'ing H Christ if ANYONE still thinks Bammy is not a socialist all I have to say is this...

"President Obama, in a speech to supporters, suggested business owners owe their success to government investment in infrastructure and other projects -- saying 'if you?ve got a business, you didn?t build that.'?

Wow how just plain fucking arrogant can one man be?  Wow and I thought Bono was a megalomaniac, this fucktard takes the cake, no he takes the whole damn bakery.  Alas some will still be stupid enough to vote for him in November!


The republicans and democrats are so close in the way they rule the country I get bored everytime someone from either side disses the other.  Wake up.  They both are causing the country to go bankrupt and care nothing about the citizens of the country. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 16, 2012, 07:56:01 pm
I'll go right ahead and say it.

Ratbastard is a racist.


"gummint" and "bammy"? Really?
You really think you're being clever with those words?


And Walkies, Frank Ocean has been getting tons of attention since his mixtape came out last year. This new record would have gotten just as much press without all the gay talk.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 16, 2012, 08:58:05 pm
Do you subscribe to the theory that Obama is going to declare martial law, suspend the election, and declare himself a dictator?

Jesus F'ing H Christ if ANYONE still thinks Bammy is not a socialist all I have to say is this...

"President Obama, in a speech to supporters, suggested business owners owe their success to government investment in infrastructure and other projects -- saying 'if you?ve got a business, you didn?t build that.'?

Wow how just plain fucking arrogant can one man be?  Wow and I thought Bono was a megalomaniac, this fucktard takes the cake, no he takes the whole damn bakery.  Alas some will still be stupid enough to vote for him in November!




Nah, the masses would not tolerate that.  The reaction would be swift and severe by we the people.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 16, 2012, 09:02:08 pm
Jesus F'ing H Christ if ANYONE still thinks Bammy is not a socialist all I have to say is this...

"President Obama, in a speech to supporters, suggested business owners owe their success to government investment in infrastructure and other projects -- saying 'if you?ve got a business, you didn?t build that.'?

Wow how just plain fucking arrogant can one man be?  Wow and I thought Bono was a megalomaniac, this fucktard takes the cake, no he takes the whole damn bakery.  Alas some will still be stupid enough to vote for him in November!


*YAWN*

I'm curious, who do you think builds sewers, water lines, the electrical grid, the highway transportation system, the internet, or any of the other stuff businesses, let alone people, need on a daily basis in our society?  Do you think there are infrastructure fairies or dwarves or something that build and maintain this shit in the middle of the night absolutely free of charge?

The government (Bammy, to you) collects money from people (taxes) and uses this money to build the above mentioned items, which we all get to use (social ownership).  They do this in our best interest, because not many people (especially you) are going to volunteer to pay for something that does not solely benefit themselves.  You get to use it to voice your opinion about "Bammy," businesses get to use it to attract clients and transport goods, I use it to drive to work to make money, so I can use other parts of it to spend said money at the 930 club, etc etc.  We are all socialist, this is not new.

Name me a single business that could exist without the above mentioned infrastructure being provided for them.   

Nice try but only a red herring.  That all has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.  What you and Bammy are saying is that nothing (for example) Seth has done had a thing to do with the success of the club.  That personal responsibility and risk taking means nothing rather it was the government that made him a success.  It is far closer to the truth that the club has been a success because of the hard work and wise business decision by Seth IN SPITE OF the government.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 16, 2012, 11:39:45 pm
I think our dear President clearly misspoke. I cannot believe someone wrote a speech with that line in it and I most certainly do not believe the President thinks that people who set up businesses have nothing to do with their success... the point is they don't do it alone not that they don't have anything to do with it which is what he seemed to say in a weird case of very clear misspeak. As Obama would say he will continue to make mistakes..... everyone will.

Having said that its been wonderful lately.. I listen to right wing talk radio for fun (when I'm in car which isn't very often) and the right wing nutters have gone batty... today , and this tells you how they have nothing to say regarding Romney going up in flames, they focused on whether Obama hates America.. I shit you not. Not just Limbaugh..also Lavin.. both were frothing at the mouth.
Does Obama hate America is all they can muster.

Bottom line is Romney has completely fucked up... everyone knows he won't release his taxes because they would show what a dodgy shyster he is.... he doesn't even say otherwise.. he could say "I won't release them on principle not because I have anything to hide.." but he says that if he'd release them Obama would use them against him! Well duh! Thats cause we'd find god knows what..we know you keep your money in just about every place dodgy shysters do..  what else is there?

Then the guy says he has nothing to do with Bain after 1999 when he was CEO, President, sole shareholder.. you name it.. it doesn't pass the smell test.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 16, 2012, 11:46:06 pm
when Frum - his number one cheerleader during the primaries- writes a column about Romney having a very bad week believe he, he's had a bad week.

When Kristol writes that he should release his tax forms, believe me, he's fucked.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 16, 2012, 11:50:11 pm
I'd be willing to bet he was misquoted. Either that or the quote was taken out of context. There was no link provided with the quote above.

Anybody who thinks Obama is a socialist is A) not clear on the definition of "socialist" and/or B) an impressionable empty headed clown.

P.S. There is nothing wrong with socialism.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 16, 2012, 11:51:37 pm
when Frum - his number one cheerleader during the primaries- writes a column about Romney having a very bad week believe he, he's had a bad week.

When Kristol writes that he should release his tax forms, believe me, he's fucked.

I think George Will mentioned that he should release his taxes at one point as well.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 17, 2012, 10:44:49 am
Andrew Sullivan makes the same point




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17 Jul 2012 10:17 AM
Hewitt Award Nominee

"I think it can now be said, without equivocation ? without equivocation ? that this man hates this country. He is trying ? Barack Obama is trying ? to dismantle, brick by brick, the American dream. There?s no other way to put this. There?s no other way to explain this. He was indoctrinated as a child. His father was a communist. His mother was a leftist. He was sent to prep and Ivy League schools where his contempt for the country was reinforced. He moved to Chicago. It was the home of the radical-left movement. He hooks up to Ayers and Dohrn and Rashid Khalidi. He learns the ruthlessness of Cook County politics. This is what we have as a president: A radical ideologue, a ruthless politician who despises the country and the way it was founded and the way in which it became great. He hates it," - Rush Limbaugh, who surges into the lead.

You know Obama's doing OK when Limbaugh has to resort to the crudeness of this formulation. It's not that he hasn't said this before. It's that he is now at that Breitbart moment when he is merely screaming epithets at those whom he hates. Awards glossary here.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 17, 2012, 10:59:59 am
stevewizzle . . . doesn't tell me where to post.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 17, 2012, 11:36:08 am
It's not all that cool when your butt pulls a fast one on you and you don't need to shit until you've gotten out of the shower.


This is my way of lightening the mood.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on July 17, 2012, 11:45:51 am
That is when you got to go ahead and take that second shower.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 17, 2012, 12:09:56 pm
Unless you have a bidet. Which begs the question. Do they make bidets with soap dispensers?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 17, 2012, 12:59:39 pm
611 Florida, a building that hosted some of the greatest music the world has to offer from 2003 to 2008 is apparently a government building now. http://www.ustreetproject.com/contact.html


If only those who work there knew what went on in their offices.


Search archives on this board for show listings for a sampling if you were not around at the time.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 17, 2012, 05:29:23 pm
I think our dear President clearly misspoke. I cannot believe someone wrote a speech with that line in it and I most certainly do not believe the President thinks that people who set up businesses have nothing to do with their success... the point is they don't do it alone not that they don't have anything to do with it which is what he seemed to say in a weird case of very clear misspeak. As Obama would say he will continue to make mistakes..... everyone will.

Having said that its been wonderful lately.. I listen to right wing talk radio for fun (when I'm in car which isn't very often) and the right wing nutters have gone batty... today , and this tells you how they have nothing to say regarding Romney going up in flames, they focused on whether Obama hates America.. I shit you not. Not just Limbaugh..also Lavin.. both were frothing at the mouth.
Does Obama hate America is all they can muster.

Bottom line is Romney has completely fucked up... everyone knows he won't release his taxes because they would show what a dodgy shyster he is.... he doesn't even say otherwise.. he could say "I won't release them on principle not because I have anything to hide.." but he says that if he'd release them Obama would use them against him! Well duh! Thats cause we'd find god knows what..we know you keep your money in just about every place dodgy shysters do..  what else is there?

Then the guy says he has nothing to do with Bain after 1999 when he was CEO, President, sole shareholder.. you name it.. it doesn't pass the smell test.

Why won't obama release his college transcripts? 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 17, 2012, 05:39:40 pm
I think our dear President clearly misspoke. I cannot believe someone wrote a speech with that line in it and I most certainly do not believe the President thinks that people who set up businesses have nothing to do with their success... the point is they don't do it alone not that they don't have anything to do with it which is what he seemed to say in a weird case of very clear misspeak. As Obama would say he will continue to make mistakes..... everyone will.

Having said that its been wonderful lately.. I listen to right wing talk radio for fun (when I'm in car which isn't very often) and the right wing nutters have gone batty... today , and this tells you how they have nothing to say regarding Romney going up in flames, they focused on whether Obama hates America.. I shit you not. Not just Limbaugh..also Lavin.. both were frothing at the mouth.
Does Obama hate America is all they can muster.

Bottom line is Romney has completely fucked up... everyone knows he won't release his taxes because they would show what a dodgy shyster he is.... he doesn't even say otherwise.. he could say "I won't release them on principle not because I have anything to hide.." but he says that if he'd release them Obama would use them against him! Well duh! Thats cause we'd find god knows what..we know you keep your money in just about every place dodgy shysters do..  what else is there?

Then the guy says he has nothing to do with Bain after 1999 when he was CEO, President, sole shareholder.. you name it.. it doesn't pass the smell test.

Why won't obama release his college transcripts? 

cause nobody cares...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 17, 2012, 06:47:10 pm
anybody notice that all these nfl stars are getting arrested for some such a thing or another, here lately.  tmz is having a field day.  in other news . . . before complaining about obama's past, i have to look at the past the president before him lived and all the f-ed up things he did, and then was allowed to be president.  bush compared to obama in what was "done" as a person growing up and then becoming the holder of the highest office in our country . . . sorry obama comes off like a saint.  obama compared to romney, same thing.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 17, 2012, 07:13:14 pm
anybody notice that all these nfl stars are getting arrested for some such a thing or another, here lately.  tmz is having a field day.  in other news . . . before complaining about obama's past, i have to look at the past the president before him lived and all the f-ed up things he did, and then was allowed to be president.  bush compared to obama in what was "done" as a person growing up and then becoming the holder of the highest office in our country . . . sorry obama comes off like a saint.  obama compared to romney, same thing.


I love my President but what did Romney do but wear kooky underwear?


i can't believe NFL players are now beating up their mothers... wait a minute i can..

worse. sport. ever.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: imbecile on July 18, 2012, 09:22:38 am
anybody notice that all these nfl stars are getting arrested for some such a thing or another, here lately.  tmz is having a field day.  in other news . . . before complaining about obama's past, i have to look at the past the president before him lived and all the f-ed up things he did, and then was allowed to be president.  bush compared to obama in what was "done" as a person growing up and then becoming the holder of the highest office in our country . . . sorry obama comes off like a saint.  obama compared to romney, same thing.


I love my President but what did Romney do but wear kooky underwear?


i can't believe NFL players are now beating up their mothers... wait a minute i can..

worse. sport. ever.

I haven't been paying much attention to the attacks from either side, so there may be more.  All I can think of is the bullying stuff (apparently he had a pattern of bullying gay kids in prep school) and the animal abuse stuff (making the dog ride on top of the car).  Is there much else we know about?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 18, 2012, 12:02:25 pm
I think our dear President clearly misspoke. I cannot believe someone wrote a speech with that line in it and I most certainly do not believe the President thinks that people who set up businesses have nothing to do with their success... the point is they don't do it alone not that they don't have anything to do with it which is what he seemed to say in a weird case of very clear misspeak. As Obama would say he will continue to make mistakes..... everyone will.

Having said that its been wonderful lately.. I listen to right wing talk radio for fun (when I'm in car which isn't very often) and the right wing nutters have gone batty... today , and this tells you how they have nothing to say regarding Romney going up in flames, they focused on whether Obama hates America.. I shit you not. Not just Limbaugh..also Lavin.. both were frothing at the mouth.
Does Obama hate America is all they can muster.

Bottom line is Romney has completely fucked up... everyone knows he won't release his taxes because they would show what a dodgy shyster he is.... he doesn't even say otherwise.. he could say "I won't release them on principle not because I have anything to hide.." but he says that if he'd release them Obama would use them against him! Well duh! Thats cause we'd find god knows what..we know you keep your money in just about every place dodgy shysters do..  what else is there?

Then the guy says he has nothing to do with Bain after 1999 when he was CEO, President, sole shareholder.. you name it.. it doesn't pass the smell test.

Why won't obama release his college transcripts? 

cause nobody cares...

I care.  I have had to provide access to my transcript when applying for jobs.  Why should the president be different?  Because he probably had a 2.0 gpa for his undergrad and he got into harvard law because he pretended to be a minority.  I don't see Obama having earned anything in his life.  And his record as president has been pretty abysml. Perhaps worse than GW.  Not that I think Romney will be any better.  I won't vote for either.  But please Obama if you want Romney to release his tax records release your transcripts. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 18, 2012, 01:33:06 pm
you guys need to smoke some pot.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 18, 2012, 04:25:53 pm
1. Obama has rocked it as President: 1) killed OBL 2) Passed health care  both HUGE.
2. There is NO precedent for people running for office having to provide transcripts.. none at all. I'm sorry but you're just barking up the wrong tree here. AND nobody cares.. i mean maybe you and a couple of loons do care but nobody cares that you care. dig?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 18, 2012, 04:26:49 pm
man i'm bummed dylan is playing verizon.. was very much looking forward to seeing him this fall but i won't do it at that venue..

not sure i want to drive to solomons but thats a 5000 seat venue.. but i'll pass on verizon.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 18, 2012, 04:41:56 pm
man i'm bummed dylan is playing verizon.. was very much looking forward to seeing him this fall but i won't do it at that venue..

not sure i want to drive to solomons but thats a 5000 seat venue.. but i'll pass on verizon.

get good seats.  saw him at patriot once.  had third row center.  blown away.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 18, 2012, 04:46:23 pm
1. Obama has rocked it as President: 1) killed OBL 2) Passed health care  both HUGE.
2. There is NO precedent for people running for office having to provide transcripts.. none at all. I'm sorry but you're just barking up the wrong tree here. AND nobody cares.. i mean maybe you and a couple of loons do care but nobody cares that you care. dig?

Obama has put up record deficits.  The health care law will probably get repealed after the election and is a watered down law.  Also he has done nothing for the mortgage problems.  In case you don't know we are the ones getting stuck paying for the failed mortgages via fannie mae etc.  He is way too conservative.
Look how much the cost of college has gone up since he became president.  All these kids are getting stuck with huge student loans.  He is spending all this  money enforcing the failed drug laws.  He hasn't done anything for the environment. 

  I think of him and GW's as pretty  much equal.  And why don't you care that you elected a failure for president?  A guy who couldn't cut it in college.  I think to be president you should be at the top of your class and have had a successful career.  

No way I am voting for him.  The only reason I am voting at all is because I want the gay marriage law to stay on teh books.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 18, 2012, 05:05:59 pm
man i'm bummed dylan is playing verizon.. was very much looking forward to seeing him this fall but i won't do it at that venue..

not sure i want to drive to solomons but thats a 5000 seat venue.. but i'll pass on verizon.

get good seats.  saw him at patriot once.  had third row center.  blown away.


I've seen him 15 times.. just about everywhere.. going to pass unless I get a free ticket or something.. He was awesome last time I saw him.. fall of 2010 in Charlottesville..

i love bob!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 18, 2012, 05:09:07 pm
1. Obama has rocked it as President: 1) killed OBL 2) Passed health care  both HUGE.
2. There is NO precedent for people running for office having to provide transcripts.. none at all. I'm sorry but you're just barking up the wrong tree here. AND nobody cares.. i mean maybe you and a couple of loons do care but nobody cares that you care. dig?

Obama has put up record deficits.  The health care law will probably get repealed after the election and is a watered down law.  Also he has done nothing for the mortgage problems.  In case you don't know we are the ones getting stuck paying for the failed mortgages via fannie mae etc.  He is way too conservative.
Look how much the cost of college has gone up since he became president.  All these kids are getting stuck with huge student loans.  He is spending all this  money enforcing the failed drug laws.  He hasn't done anything for the environment. 

  I think of him and GW's as pretty  much equal.  And why don't you care that you elected a failure for president?  A guy who couldn't cut it in college.  I think to be president you should be at the top of your class and have had a successful career.  

No way I am voting for him.  The only reason I am voting at all is because I want the gay marriage law to stay on teh books.


you're a lunatic.. the same guy who says teachers are overpaid.. i'm done with you.. I simply don't have the time or desire to debate with loons. Go over to redstate.org or something...

unless you live in Virginia your vote matters not a whit. I do live in Virginia and we'll be voting for President Obama.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: wml7 on July 18, 2012, 05:58:45 pm
man i'm bummed dylan is playing verizon.. was very much looking forward to seeing him this fall but i won't do it at that venue..

not sure i want to drive to solomons but thats a 5000 seat venue.. but i'll pass on verizon.

get good seats.  saw him at patriot once.  had third row center.  blown away.


I've seen him 15 times.. just about everywhere.. going to pass unless I get a free ticket or something.. He was awesome last time I saw him.. fall of 2010 in Charlottesville..

i love bob!

^Narcissist
 ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 18, 2012, 07:07:59 pm
No way I am voting for him.  The only reason I am voting at all is because I want the gay marriage law to stay on teh books.

what gay marriage law?  are you talking at the state level?

for federal: if you want to ensure that gay marriage doesn't happen, be sure to vote for romney.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 18, 2012, 09:33:42 pm
What's the point of the deluxe versions of new release albums these days, other than to soak the consumer for a couple more dollars while just getting a few extra tracks.  Especially since most popular albums will have an even more expanded version with six months released anyways. 

And we will ever get The Jam deluxe versions in the US? "The Gift" version is on it's way....
 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 18, 2012, 10:08:44 pm
No way I am voting for him.  The only reason I am voting at all is because I want the gay marriage law to stay on teh books.

what gay marriage law?  are you talking at the state level?

for federal: if you want to ensure that gay marriage doesn't happen, be sure to vote for romney.

maryland has a gay marriage law that people are trying to repeal and it is on the ballot.  I am not voting for romney or obama.  two peas in a pod. 

Obama is pro gun, pro war, anti raising the minimum wage.  Pro illegal aliens. And he is for affirmitive action which is racism which i am against. anti decriminilizing drugs. supports off shore oiil drilling, pro isreal

Romney is anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti raising the minium wage, anti gun control, anti decriminilizing drugs, supports off shore oiil drilling, pro war, pro isreal


Obama only started supporting gay marriage a couple of weeks ago.  When he thought it could get him some votes.  Soon as the election is over he will go back to being anti-gay marriage.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 18, 2012, 10:10:36 pm
1. Obama has rocked it as President: 1) killed OBL 2) Passed health care  both HUGE.
2. There is NO precedent for people running for office having to provide transcripts.. none at all. I'm sorry but you're just barking up the wrong tree here. AND nobody cares.. i mean maybe you and a couple of loons do care but nobody cares that you care. dig?

Obama has put up record deficits.  The health care law will probably get repealed after the election and is a watered down law.  Also he has done nothing for the mortgage problems.  In case you don't know we are the ones getting stuck paying for the failed mortgages via fannie mae etc.  He is way too conservative.
Look how much the cost of college has gone up since he became president.  All these kids are getting stuck with huge student loans.  He is spending all this  money enforcing the failed drug laws.  He hasn't done anything for the environment. 

  I think of him and GW's as pretty  much equal.  And why don't you care that you elected a failure for president?  A guy who couldn't cut it in college.  I think to be president you should be at the top of your class and have had a successful career.  

No way I am voting for him.  The only reason I am voting at all is because I want the gay marriage law to stay on teh books.


you're a lunatic.. the same guy who says teachers are overpaid.. i'm done with you.. I simply don't have the time or desire to debate with loons. Go over to redstate.org or something...

unless you live in Virginia your vote matters not a whit. I do live in Virginia and we'll be voting for President Obama.

I am a loon because you don't want to debate records.  You do realize that obams is banrupting the country.  No different than GW.  Pro war just like GW.  Pro illegal alien just like GW.  Pro big business like GW.  War on Drugs like GW. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 18, 2012, 11:15:00 pm
1. Obama has rocked it as President: 1) killed OBL 2) Passed health care  both HUGE.
2. There is NO precedent for people running for office having to provide transcripts.. none at all. I'm sorry but you're just barking up the wrong tree here. AND nobody cares.. i mean maybe you and a couple of loons do care but nobody cares that you care. dig?

Obama has put up record deficits.  The health care law will probably get repealed after the election and is a watered down law.  Also he has done nothing for the mortgage problems.  In case you don't know we are the ones getting stuck paying for the failed mortgages via fannie mae etc.  He is way too conservative.
Look how much the cost of college has gone up since he became president.  All these kids are getting stuck with huge student loans.  He is spending all this  money enforcing the failed drug laws.  He hasn't done anything for the environment. 

  I think of him and GW's as pretty  much equal.  And why don't you care that you elected a failure for president?  A guy who couldn't cut it in college.  I think to be president you should be at the top of your class and have had a successful career.  

No way I am voting for him.  The only reason I am voting at all is because I want the gay marriage law to stay on teh books.


you're a lunatic.. the same guy who says teachers are overpaid.. i'm done with you.. I simply don't have the time or desire to debate with loons. Go over to redstate.org or something...

unless you live in Virginia your vote matters not a whit. I do live in Virginia and we'll be voting for President Obama.

I am a loon because you don't want to debate records.  You do realize that obams is banrupting the country.  No different than GW.  Pro war just like GW.  Pro illegal alien just like GW.  Pro big business like GW.  War on Drugs like GW. 

Very different.. deficit spending in a recession almost depression environment is fine with me.. what is NOT fine with me is deficit spending during an economic expansion which is what Bush did.. moreover, if it weren't for Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy which the Republicans refuse to allow to expire then the deficit spending under President Obama would be far far less.. Pro war??? News flash : we're getting out of two wars! Finally, there is a difference in killing Osama Bin Laden and not killing him. Go ask Osama.


You're simply confusing the issues and positions to draw a convenient conclusion but its ludicrous to say they are the same.  One guy, Bush, created the problems with excessive spending/tax cuts for wealthy/fictitious wars out the wazoo.. the other guy is trying to get past all that crap... and, actually, given the context, doing a fairly good job.

And I'm all in favor of cutting government spending but not in a recession. That is lunacy. I mean "Hey, there isn't enough spending out there cause consumer spending is way down so lets cut government spending"??? WTF??

You need to stop listening to El Rushbo and start thinking for yourself man.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: shemptiness on July 18, 2012, 11:18:32 pm
Can we start a political thread?  Maybe call it 'politics' or 'why romney sucks' or 'why bammy sucks'?  

This is getting as boring as Wilco's setlist.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 18, 2012, 11:30:45 pm
As far as illegal immigration.


Get real. There is a reason the United States has been allowing immigrants into the country illegally for decades and will continue to do so.. republicans or democrats.. because they work CHEAP.. they clean your toilets, pick up your garbage, build your houses, and take care of your kids and they do it cheap.. if they didn't do it the US economy would collapse. And the reason its cheap is cause its under the table without benefits and below minimum wage.


or why do you think the US allows millions of hispanics into this country illegally???? Its not that hard to stop it but the US doesn't want to...ever wonder why???

let me add I support the Arizona law.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 18, 2012, 11:31:22 pm
Can we start a political thread?  Maybe call it 'politics' or 'why romney sucks' or 'why bammy sucks'?  

This is getting as boring as Wilco's setlist.


huh?? this is the various random thoughts thread???

WTF??? I mean I can take it to the Just Announced thread if you prefer?  ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 19, 2012, 03:29:06 pm
awesome

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/07/19/tickets-to-canceled-17-who-concert-in-providence-ri-can-be-used-for-2012-gig/#ixzz2161q8aD3
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 19, 2012, 09:08:13 pm
Hard to disagree with Atomicfront on all but a few points: teachers don't make nearly enough, the stimulus should have been twice what it is and there's nothing in the constitution that says that anybody running for office should provide education records. All that said, it's hard to argue with his other points w/r/t Obama. He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support especially after this first term full of disappointments. If he were running for office in any other Western democracy, he would be considered a moderate conservative. If a more liberal third party candidate whose beliefs are closer to mine doesn't throw his/her hat into the ring, I'll also vote on the issues/for the local/state candidates about which/whom I care and ignore the presidential election. Maryland's a lock for Obama.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 19, 2012, 11:07:42 pm
He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 20, 2012, 12:02:54 am
He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)

first off, you are yet again proving your lack of english comprehension skills with your use of the word "radical" here.

second of all, that obama is even in the running for more left-leaning leader this country has ever had is an indictment of this country.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 20, 2012, 12:13:06 am
He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)



And there's no way you believe this. Unless you really know nothing abouta nything.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 20, 2012, 03:33:48 am
He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)



And there's no way you believe this. Unless you really know nothing about nothing.

Just want to point out that "knowing nothing about nothing" would mean I know everything.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 20, 2012, 03:36:22 am
He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)

first off, you are yet again proving your lack of english comprehension skills with your use of the word "radical" here.

second of all, that obama is even in the running for more left-leaning leader this country has ever had is an indictment of this country.


rad·i·cal   [rad-i-kuhl]
adjective
1. of or going to the root or origin; fundamental: a radical difference.
2. thoroughgoing or extreme, especially as regards change from accepted or traditional forms: a radical change in the policy of a company.
3. favoring drastic political, economic, or social reforms: radical ideas; radical and anarchistic ideologues.
4. forming a basis or foundation.
5. existing inherently in a thing or person: radical defects of character.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 20, 2012, 04:47:14 am
He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)

first off, you are yet again proving your lack of english comprehension skills with your use of the word "radical" here.

second of all, that obama is even in the running for more left-leaning leader this country has ever had is an indictment of this country.


rad·i·cal   [rad-i-kuhl]
adjective
1. of or going to the root or origin; fundamental: a radical difference.
2. thoroughgoing or extreme, especially as regards change from accepted or traditional forms: a radical change in the policy of a company.
3. favoring drastic political, economic, or social reforms: radical ideas; radical and anarchistic ideologues.
4. forming a basis or foundation.
5. existing inherently in a thing or person: radical defects of character.


He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)

first off, you are yet again proving your lack of english comprehension skills with your use of the word "radical" here.

second of all, that obama is even in the running for more left-leaning leader this country has ever had is an indictment of this country.


rad·i·cal   [rad-i-kuhl]
adjective
1. of or going to the root or origin; fundamental: a radical difference.
2. thoroughgoing or extreme, especially as regards change from accepted or traditional forms: a radical change in the policy of a company.
3. favoring drastic political, economic, or social reforms: radical ideas; radical and anarchistic ideologues.
4. forming a basis or foundation.
5. existing inherently in a thing or person: radical defects of character.


Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 20, 2012, 04:49:46 am
He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)



And there's no way you believe this. Unless you really know nothing about nothing.

Just want to point out that "knowing nothing about nothing" would mean I know everything.

Touche. Fixed.


I still say you don't really believe that Obama is the most liberal politician in American history. There are countless senators and congressmen in office right now that are way far left of him.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 20, 2012, 05:07:52 am
I'd say FDR was more radical left than Obama....
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on July 20, 2012, 05:11:12 am
Why are so many of us up and posting during the wee hours of the morning?

Some of us maintain some rather radical sleep/awake patterns. Or is it a posting thing?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 20, 2012, 05:33:25 am
Insomnia here....
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 20, 2012, 07:54:07 am
I met the girl of my dreams last night.

Blonde
Attractive
Great body
Big tits
Loves football (soccer)
A WINE DISTRIBUTOR
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 20, 2012, 08:40:49 am
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-scene/

i don't trust anybody anymore.  no one.  i will shun these people who inhabit the world from now on.  trust no one in this age we live in.  no matter who or where.  trust no one.  get a permit to carry a weapon to protect yourselves.  carry it always.  you are always in danger.  people cannot be trusted anymore. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Yada on July 20, 2012, 09:16:56 am
Why are so many of us up and posting during the wee hours of the morning?

Some of us maintain some rather radical sleep/awake patterns. Or is it a posting thing?

cocaine's a helluva drug.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 20, 2012, 09:19:45 am
Gotta admit this is the most interesting the board has been in years
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 20, 2012, 10:59:25 am
man i overreact sometimes.  this thread that allows me to enter it and randomly throw up a thought, is . . . evil.  i should go buy some more beer today, and talk about that. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: shemptiness on July 20, 2012, 11:13:36 am
What is it about Colorado?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 20, 2012, 11:17:47 am
this one woman on some msnbc show this morning talked exclusively about one thing basically during her entire time on the air . . . how video games and playing video games more than likely led to this kid doing it.  that will go over well.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 20, 2012, 11:42:18 am
Aren't you married?

I met the girl of my dreams last night.

Blonde
Attractive
Great body
Big tits
Loves football (soccer)
A WINE DISTRIBUTOR
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: nkotb on July 20, 2012, 11:46:20 am
Uh, he said BIG TITS.  I think that precludes the bonds of holy matrimony, pal.

Aren't you married?

I met the girl of my dreams last night.

Blonde
Attractive
Great body
Big tits
Loves football (soccer)
A WINE DISTRIBUTOR
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: shemptiness on July 20, 2012, 11:47:35 am
Married guys dream too, y'know.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 20, 2012, 11:48:33 am
Oh man, hubba hubba

(http://www.fwi.co.uk/blogs/livestock-and-sales-blog/blonde%20champ%20pit%20stop%20blog.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 20, 2012, 11:51:32 am
rad·i·cal   [rad-i-kuhl]
adjective
1. of or going to the root or origin; fundamental: a radical difference.
2. thoroughgoing or extreme, especially as regards change from accepted or traditional forms: a radical change in the policy of a company.
3. favoring drastic political, economic, or social reforms: radical ideas; radical and anarchistic ideologues.
4. forming a basis or foundation.
5. existing inherently in a thing or person: radical defects of character.

good, so we can agree on the definition.  newsflash: what obama is doing isn't radical.  plenty of precendent, and it's in keeping with his campaign platform from 2008.  it's radical to YOUR sensibilities, but he cannot be called subjectively radical.

(p.s. relaxer for president!!!)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 20, 2012, 12:08:56 pm
i was sitting on the couch in my tank top and holey shorts, after hollering out the window at some kids of course, watching this hour long infomercial for "Micheal's" called "Craft Wars".  Anyways, I was snapped into reality when it dawned on me that shows about people apply glitter to stuff isn't very compelling, so i deleted it off the DVR.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 20, 2012, 12:41:02 pm
this one woman on some msnbc show this morning talked exclusively about one thing basically during her entire time on the air . . . how video games and playing video games more than likely led to this kid doing it.  that will go over well.

Well what about guns?  Why don't they ever think maybe we should not let everyone have guns?  Why does this enter peoples minds?  How many times does something like this happen when finally people wake up to the fact that people do not need guns.  Change the consitution.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 20, 2012, 12:42:31 pm
He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)



And there's no way you believe this. Unless you really know nothing about nothing.

Just want to point out that "knowing nothing about nothing" would mean I know everything.

Touche. Fixed.


I still say you don't really believe that Obama is the most liberal politician in American history. There are countless senators and congressmen in office right now that are way far left of him.

 

Obama isn't liberal at all. Richard Nixon was more liberal than Obama. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 20, 2012, 12:54:57 pm
this one woman on some msnbc show this morning talked exclusively about one thing basically during her entire time on the air . . . how video games and playing video games more than likely led to this kid doing it.  that will go over well.

Well what about guns?  Why don't they ever think maybe we should not let everyone have guns?  Why does this enter peoples minds?  How many times does something like this happen when finally people wake up to the fact that people do not need guns.  Change the constitution.
+1, not that it will ever happen.  rightly or wrongly, people will make the argument that had there been MORE guns in that theater, things might have gone differently (like more stray bullets...)

really not sure how to stuff this genie back into the bottle.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 20, 2012, 01:03:01 pm
Last night, I was going to throw up a "we need an amendment to negate the 2nd amendment" for the sole purpose of trolling Ratbastard. Now, I'm totally sincere about it. Enough of this shit.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 20, 2012, 02:07:20 pm
As opposed as I am to gun ownership. (and I am) The fact remains had the second amendment been abolished, this bloke in CO would still have obtained them and committed mass murder.

Unfortunately, the  reality is 'ban guns and only the bad people will have guns' and that's a step closer to complete anarchy.

It needs someone way above my payscale to figure out how to rid society of them.

As for Obama...I am confident that history will prove he's the worst president in mordern times. End of discussion on my part. (politics and message boards never work)

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 20, 2012, 02:21:14 pm
In case anyone is looking to buy teargas, http://www.keepshooting.com/clear-out-6oz-tear-gas-grenade.html

Honestly, why would something like this be legal?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 20, 2012, 02:30:51 pm
You can't assume the Colo shooter would've been able to get a gun if they were illegal. From what's been reported, he was a medical school drop-out who worked at a bar, he wasn't a military guy. Can the average person go out and get a rocket launcher? No, because they're illegal for normal people to have and therefore, normal people don't know where to get them.

The argument that if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns is straight up retarded. Yes, if guns are outlawed, only very certain outlaws will have guns, i.e. a miniscule fraction of the number of people who have and use guns today. You think most of those bonehead gun nuts would have any clue how to get a gun if they were outlawed? Give me a break. Gun violence would absolutely plummet if they were outlawed.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 20, 2012, 02:40:34 pm
Precisely. This guy also appears to have a clean record with the exception of a traffic violation. He could have easily walked into a gun show, found the weapons he used last night and passed a background check with no problem. From the way it sounds, he probably acquired these weapons legally.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 20, 2012, 04:37:47 pm
You can't assume the Colo shooter would've been able to get a gun if they were illegal. From what's been reported, he was a medical school drop-out who worked at a bar, he wasn't a military guy. Can the average person go out and get a rocket launcher? No, because they're illegal for normal people to have and therefore, normal people don't know where to get them.

The argument that if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns is straight up retarded.Yes, if guns are outlawed, only very certain outlaws will have guns, i.e. a miniscule fraction of the number of people who have and use guns today. You think most of those bonehead gun nuts would have any clue how to get a gun if they were outlawed? Give me a break. Gun violence would absolutely plummet if they were outlawed.

This is why it's impossible to have a sensible discussion with some...someone with a different opnion on a subject than yourself is not automatically a retard.

Dope is illegal but all the stoners have no problem buying it on any given street corner. What makes you think guns would be any different?

Don't bother replying because I know I'm a retard if you don't agree with me.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 20, 2012, 04:45:42 pm
Read it again, princess. I didn't call you a retard, I called the argument retarded. I did, however, call you a princess, princess, and kind of a dumb one at that.

And if you genuinely think it's just as easy to buy automatic weapons on any given street corner, then... well yeah, now I'm calling you retarded.

Bye!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 20, 2012, 04:53:15 pm
This is kind of related to this discussion. (http://gizmodo.com/5927379/the-secret-online-weapons-store-thatll-sell-anyone-anything)

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: shemptiness on July 20, 2012, 07:10:55 pm
This is kind of related to this discussion. (http://gizmodo.com/5927379/the-secret-online-weapons-store-thatll-sell-anyone-anything)



Some secret.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 21, 2012, 12:08:08 pm
This is the most informative Kevin Shields interview piece ever. (http://thequietus.com/articles/08745-kevin-shields-interview-mbv-my-bloody-valentine)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 21, 2012, 03:10:49 pm
He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)



And there's no way you believe this. Unless you really know nothing about nothing.

Just want to point out that "knowing nothing about nothing" would mean I know everything.

Touche. Fixed.


I still say you don't really believe that Obama is the most liberal politician in American history. There are countless senators and congressmen in office right now that are way far left of him.


Actually I did mis-speak.  I intended to say that no PRESIDENT.  Of course we are all talking opinions here so others here may not agree (ya think?) but Bammy is extremely left wing and EASILY the most left wing president in my lifetime.  For reference I have been voting in presidential elections since the Nixon/Humphrey/Wallace election.  It may surprise you to know that I do NOT vote in any election based on party.  I vote for the person that I think is best for the job.  On more than one occasion i cast a vote for someone from each of the two major parties and at least once for a third party candidate.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 21, 2012, 03:11:57 pm
Last night, I was going to throw up a "we need an amendment to negate the 2nd amendment" for the sole purpose of trolling Ratbastard. Now, I'm totally sincere about it. Enough of this shit.


LOL nice try though!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 21, 2012, 03:44:17 pm
Billy Corgan is the most tooltastic tool in tooltown. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/17/smashing-pumpkins-frontman-billy-corgan-what-i-learned-as-a-rock-star.html
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 21, 2012, 05:23:51 pm
He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)



And there's no way you believe this. Unless you really know nothing about nothing.

Just want to point out that "knowing nothing about nothing" would mean I know everything.

Touche. Fixed.


I still say you don't really believe that Obama is the most liberal politician in American history. There are countless senators and congressmen in office right now that are way far left of him.


Actually I did mis-speak.  I intended to say that no PRESIDENT.  Of course we are all talking opinions here so others here may not agree (ya think?) but Bammy is extremely left wing and EASILY the most left wing president in my lifetime.  For reference I have been voting in presidential elections since the Nixon/Humphrey/Wallace election.  It may surprise you to know that I do NOT vote in any election based on party.  I vote for the person that I think is best for the job.  On more than one occasion i cast a vote for someone from each of the two major parties and at least once for a third party candidate.



If you think President Obama is so extremely left wing you need to get out more.. travel the world.. read a book for a change.

And if you're casting a vote for someone from each of the two major parties you're committing voter fraud.  ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 21, 2012, 05:36:33 pm
FDR, Kennedy, LBJ and arguably Nixon, George HW Bush and Reagan were more liberal than Obama. But OK RB, keep right on drinking that Fox News/Rush Kool-Aid.


The fact that history does not appear to be your strong suit is bad enough. Your living through it and apparent inability to remember any of it says even more about you.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 22, 2012, 02:14:28 pm
He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)



And there's no way you believe this. Unless you really know nothing about nothing.

Just want to point out that "knowing nothing about nothing" would mean I know everything.

Touche. Fixed.


I still say you don't really believe that Obama is the most liberal politician in American history. There are countless senators and congressmen in office right now that are way far left of him.


Actually I did mis-speak.  I intended to say that no PRESIDENT.  Of course we are all talking opinions here so others here may not agree (ya think?) but Bammy is extremely left wing and EASILY the most left wing president in my lifetime.  For reference I have been voting in presidential elections since the Nixon/Humphrey/Wallace election.  It may surprise you to know that I do NOT vote in any election based on party.  I vote for the person that I think is best for the job.  On more than one occasion i cast a vote for someone from each of the two major parties and at least once for a third party candidate.



If you think President Obama is so extremely left wing you need to get out more.. travel the world.. read a book for a change.

And if you're casting a vote for someone from each of the two major parties you're committing voter fraud.  ;D

Traveling the world would not change my opinion that Bammy is the most left wing US president ever and my belief is that people who vote based solely on the label (party) listed next to a person's name are the ones who have no business voting.  They, in effect, are just allowing someone else to vote for them. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 22, 2012, 03:04:47 pm
He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)



And there's no way you believe this. Unless you really know nothing about nothing.

Just want to point out that "knowing nothing about nothing" would mean I know everything.

Touche. Fixed.


I still say you don't really believe that Obama is the most liberal politician in American history. There are countless senators and congressmen in office right now that are way far left of him.


Actually I did mis-speak.  I intended to say that no PRESIDENT.  Of course we are all talking opinions here so others here may not agree (ya think?) but Bammy is extremely left wing and EASILY the most left wing president in my lifetime.  For reference I have been voting in presidential elections since the Nixon/Humphrey/Wallace election.  It may surprise you to know that I do NOT vote in any election based on party.  I vote for the person that I think is best for the job.  On more than one occasion i cast a vote for someone from each of the two major parties and at least once for a third party candidate.



If you think President Obama is so extremely left wing you need to get out more.. travel the world.. read a book for a change.

And if you're casting a vote for someone from each of the two major parties you're committing voter fraud.  ;D

Traveling the world would not change my opinion that Bammy is the most left wing US president ever and my belief is that people who vote based solely on the label (party) listed next to a person's name are the ones who have no business voting.  They, in effect, are just allowing someone else to vote for them. 

I don't vote based on party label.. heck I didn't even vote for Bill in 1992.... but it will be a wonder if I ever vote Republican again after what W did....


Traveling the world might help you not be so ignorant. Might open up your mind to realities other than the loony right wing crap you espouse on this board. Then again it sounds like its too late for you.. you seem to think you got all the answers so its probably hopeless.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 22, 2012, 04:11:34 pm
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/07/22/Interactivity/Images/webcrop-paterno.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 22, 2012, 05:47:17 pm
George Costanza FTW (http://www.twitlonger.com/show/if2nht)

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 22, 2012, 08:45:36 pm
He is in no way far enough to the left for me to support

No one in the history of our country has been as far radical left as Bammy.  Don't hold your breath waiting, better yet... ;)



And there's no way you believe this. Unless you really know nothing about nothing.

Just want to point out that "knowing nothing about nothing" would mean I know everything.

Touche. Fixed.


I still say you don't really believe that Obama is the most liberal politician in American history. There are countless senators and congressmen in office right now that are way far left of him.


Actually I did mis-speak.  I intended to say that no PRESIDENT.  Of course we are all talking opinions here so others here may not agree (ya think?) but Bammy is extremely left wing and EASILY the most left wing president in my lifetime.  For reference I have been voting in presidential elections since the Nixon/Humphrey/Wallace election.  It may surprise you to know that I do NOT vote in any election based on party.  I vote for the person that I think is best for the job.  On more than one occasion i cast a vote for someone from each of the two major parties and at least once for a third party candidate.



If you think President Obama is so extremely left wing you need to get out more.. travel the world.. read a book for a change.

And if you're casting a vote for someone from each of the two major parties you're committing voter fraud.  ;D

Traveling the world would not change my opinion that Bammy is the most left wing US president ever and my belief is that people who vote based solely on the label (party) listed next to a person's name are the ones who have no business voting.  They, in effect, are just allowing someone else to vote for them. 

I don't vote based on party label.. heck I didn't even vote for Bill in 1992.... but it will be a wonder if I ever vote Republican again after what W did....


Traveling the world might help you not be so ignorant. Might open up your mind to realities other than the loony right wing crap you espouse on this board. Then again it sounds like its too late for you.. you seem to think you got all the answers so its probably hopeless.

Sorry my last post was not trying to imply that you personally voted by party.  It was a general observation.  As far as traveling the world, I am fully aware that many leaders across history have been much more left than anything we have ever seen in this country.  Still that is not relevant to the discussion of our national leaders.  I feel sorry if you or anyone thinks it is loony to believe the governments needs to stop growing, stop getting bigger, stop creating all kind of new laws and regulations trying to inhibit free enterprise, and stop taking the hard earned wages of the citizens to fund its absurd spending in the name of the good of the people.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 23, 2012, 07:53:05 am
Hugo Chavez is left of Obama....but only just.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 23, 2012, 09:52:04 am
Hugo Chavez is left of Obama....but only just.


Seriously???

Give me a break.. you must not know anything about Hugo Chavez....


I hope your statement is a joke but if its not it is emblematic of the loony right wing.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 23, 2012, 10:49:56 am
Hugo Chavez is left of Obama....but only just.


Seriously???

Give me a break.. you must not know anything about Hugo Chavez....


I hope your statement is a joke but if its not it is emblematic of the loony right wing.


Yes it was a joke.....but you are typical of someone listing far over to the left. If someone isn't off the left deep end they must be a right wing extremist right?

There just can't be a middle ground with the lefties.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 23, 2012, 11:00:39 am
There is. His name is Barack Obama.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on July 23, 2012, 11:25:35 am
Hugo Chavez is left of Obama....but only just.


Seriously???

Give me a break.. you must not know anything about Hugo Chavez....


I hope your statement is a joke but if its not it is emblematic of the loony right wing.


Yes it was a joke.....but you are typical of someone listing far over to the left. If someone isn't off the left deep end they must be a right wing extremist right?

There just can't be a middle ground with the lefties.


huh? First of all I'm pretty centrist. Second of all, your statement is emblematic of the loony right wing? I mean how else could someone say President Obama is next to Hugo Chavez.. you yourself admitted it was a joke!

The ones that don't have a middle ground are the Republicans and right wingers.. just look at the House Republicans.. look at how every moderate Republican has been ran out and replaced by a right wing Republican!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 23, 2012, 01:24:15 pm
Same could be said of the Dems really. Truth is, both the house and senate are very polarized at the moment.

For the record, I'm fairly centrist myself. A registered independent who votes for the candidate (for any seat) regardless of party affiliation. In the last election I didn't vote for either McCain or Obama because I refuse to negative vote (vote for one because I hate the other) and neither one appealed to me. Actually, that's not correct. McCain certainly didn't appeal and I knew nothing about Obama so wasn't about to vote into the unkown.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 23, 2012, 02:47:51 pm
Frank Gallagher, are you a US citizen? I had this notion that you were British, like by your saying "shyte" and such.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 23, 2012, 02:51:20 pm
Frank Gallagher, are you a US citizen? I had this notion that you were British, like by your saying "shyte" and such.

Yer darn toot'n I'm a yankee-doodle-dandy. I even have a pony called macaroni with a feather in it's cap!
 ;D

Born and raised in Manc......became naturalized US citizen in 1992'ish. Hold both US/UK passports
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 25, 2012, 11:49:38 pm
I have thought of Tom Friedman as nothing more than a worthless windbag since I read part of that stupid World Is Flat Book and couldn't finish it but Glenn Greenwald completely destroys him (http://www.salon.com/2012/07/25/the_value_of_tom_friedman/) here. So sick of this hack being paraded around cable TV as some sort of foreign policy expert when in reality he probably knows as much about the world around him as Ratbastard.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 26, 2012, 01:38:14 am
The NRA should change their name to the SPC.

Small Penis Club.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 26, 2012, 09:01:32 am
The NRA should change their name to the SPC.

Small Penis Club.


not always true . . . i know.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 26, 2012, 09:23:37 am
We have an NRA sticker on our front door, even though we're not members.

Does wonders for keeping the Jehovah's Witnesses, solicitors, and bad guys away.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 26, 2012, 09:26:44 am
so do you have a small penis or what?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 26, 2012, 09:29:49 am
No, but I like to pretend that I do.

so do you have a small penis or what?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 26, 2012, 02:12:08 pm
Pop music is getting louder and lamer (http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/65153)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 27, 2012, 11:37:15 am
And now for some good news...

http://news.yahoo.com/hiv-undetectable-2-men-bone-marrow-transplants-study-200606267.html
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on July 27, 2012, 03:34:37 pm
Pop music is getting louder and lamer (http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/65153)


It didn't say lamer. Just less chords and less variation.  On the good side it is easier to dance to.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on July 27, 2012, 04:09:10 pm
People should just listen to Asian pop like Capsule and Perfume.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 28, 2012, 02:29:28 am
I don't like the guy or his politics, but this is a tad over the line if you ask me...

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/07/27/12996261-idaho-billboard-compares-obama-to-colorado-theater-shooting-suspect?lite

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 28, 2012, 02:33:39 am
Wow a judge actually used logic, reason, AND the constitution to make a good decision!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/27/catholic-business-owners-seek-injunction-against-obama-health-care-mandate/


Truth be told the biggest problem with health insurance in this country is that we allow employers to be the providers of it.  The intentions in allowing that were good, but as often happens, it was a knee jerk 'fix' that has and continues to cause vastly more problems than it ever addressed.  It causes costs to be much higher, it leads to the whole issues of portability, and it limits the choices for consumers just to name a few biggies.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 28, 2012, 02:38:17 am
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/27/indiana-company-scraps-plans-for-expansion-over-obamacare-device-tax/


It is comical that the libtard spokesman is quoted as saying their study proves the tax will not cause jobs to go overseas in an article about a company that is going to not build plants in the US that they had already planned.  Those 1,500 jobs will be in another country soon.  I guess they don't count in libtard math.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on July 29, 2012, 04:24:27 am
Really?  in 2012 this is happening?


http://news.yahoo.com/mississppi-church-refuses-marry-black-couple-205218322--abc-news-topstories.html
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 29, 2012, 01:13:28 pm
Anonymous pulls a fast one and fooled a few people but only for a few hours. (http://www.salon.com/2012/07/29/the_curative_powers_of_the_internet/)

I read the fake NYT editorial last night and it definitely got me. Some excellent points W/R/T traditional journalism V. the internet, too.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 03, 2012, 12:14:18 am
Bob Costas is a very stupid man.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 11, 2012, 02:54:28 pm
his is porn and creepy?  Really?  Where?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bcf_1344586580
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 11, 2012, 03:48:20 pm
Paul Ryan pick will firm up the wingnuts who already are voting for the Romneybot but might scare away old people and moderates. He might pull out Wisconsin (although that is very questionable) but can wave bye to Florida for sure now.


Ryan worships Ayn Rand which in my opinion, makes him a despicable piece of garbage.

And this made me chuckle: One is a robot. One is a Randroid. And they're RUNNING FOR OFFICE! Watch the zany new comedy ROMNEY AND RYAN, coming this fall!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 11, 2012, 04:04:48 pm
Uhh, wow. (http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/paul-ryan-romney-vp-pick-11562917)



So many quotable nuggets of awesome in there.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 11, 2012, 05:39:48 pm
Paul Ryan pick will firm up the wingnuts who already are voting for the Romneybot but might scare away old people and moderates. He might pull out Wisconsin (although that is very questionable) but can wave bye to Florida for sure now.


Ryan worships Ayn Rand which in my opinion, makes him a despicable piece of garbage.

And this made me chuckle: One is a robot. One is a Randroid. And they're RUNNING FOR OFFICE! Watch the zany new comedy ROMNEY AND RYAN, coming this fall!



Everything Romney has done so far in this campaign, including this pick, has been to drive turnout of conservatives... they are not trying to attract independents but figure if they can get enough of "their" people out to the polls they can win.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 11, 2012, 06:19:47 pm
ryan = cute
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 11, 2012, 06:42:45 pm
Walkies, you'll appreciate this. (http://gu.com/p/39knv/tw)


Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 11, 2012, 07:32:09 pm
Paul Ryan pick will firm up the wingnuts who already are voting for the Romneybot but might scare away old people and moderates. He might pull out Wisconsin (although that is very questionable) but can wave bye to Florida for sure now.


Ryan worships Ayn Rand which in my opinion, makes him a despicable piece of garbage.

And this made me chuckle: One is a robot. One is a Randroid. And they're RUNNING FOR OFFICE! Watch the zany new comedy ROMNEY AND RYAN, coming this fall!



Everything Romney has done so far in this campaign, including this pick, has been to drive turnout of conservatives... they are not trying to attract independents but figure if they can get enough of "their" people out to the polls they can win.

As opposed to Bammy who, for the last four years and before, has done everything he can to pit every segment of our society against each other?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 11, 2012, 07:36:31 pm
Paul Ryan pick will firm up the wingnuts who already are voting for the Romneybot but might scare away old people and moderates. He might pull out Wisconsin (although that is very questionable) but can wave bye to Florida for sure now.


Ryan worships Ayn Rand which in my opinion, makes him a despicable piece of garbage.

And this made me chuckle: One is a robot. One is a Randroid. And they're RUNNING FOR OFFICE! Watch the zany new comedy ROMNEY AND RYAN, coming this fall!



Everything Romney has done so far in this campaign, including this pick, has been to drive turnout of conservatives... they are not trying to attract independents but figure if they can get enough of "their" people out to the polls they can win.

As opposed to Bammy who, for the last four years and before, has done everything he can to pit every segment of our society against each other?

Who is Bammy?

Next time you want an answer, clown, call him President Obama.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 12, 2012, 01:43:52 am
Paul Ryan pick will firm up the wingnuts who already are voting for the Romneybot but might scare away old people and moderates. He might pull out Wisconsin (although that is very questionable) but can wave bye to Florida for sure now.


Ryan worships Ayn Rand which in my opinion, makes him a despicable piece of garbage.

And this made me chuckle: One is a robot. One is a Randroid. And they're RUNNING FOR OFFICE! Watch the zany new comedy ROMNEY AND RYAN, coming this fall!



Everything Romney has done so far in this campaign, including this pick, has been to drive turnout of conservatives... they are not trying to attract independents but figure if they can get enough of "their" people out to the polls they can win.

As opposed to Bammy who, for the last four years and before, has done everything he can to pit every segment of our society against each other?

Who is Bammy?

Next time you want an answer, clown, call him President Obama.


Typical retort of one with no valid point.  I call it like I see it.  Bammy the savior is a farce which is clearly evident to those who choose not to buy into the great savior's hype of 'the gummint will fix everything by throwing more money at it".  The man had two years of complete control in DC with him and his socialist cronies in charge of everything and they did NOTING at all but try to make themselves look good.  Now they all sit and point fingers at their failures being the fault and responsibility of others.  We wouldn't expect anything else form them, they and their clan always do everything they can to eliminate personal responsibility for anything.  Its pretty sad that you are still being fooled, you otherwise seem to be a fairly educated person.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 12, 2012, 03:42:58 am
I wonder how many babies on average are conceived in the Olympic Village during an Olympics.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 12, 2012, 08:29:49 am
Another one for Senor Walkonby (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/what-paul-rya-n-and-shirtless-have-in-common/2012/08/12/72b0e872-e419-11e1-a25e-15067bb31849_blog.html)


So fess up. Were you one of the googlers referenced?


Edit: I bet Joe was.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 12, 2012, 09:56:03 am
Paul Ryan pick will firm up the wingnuts who already are voting for the Romneybot but might scare away old people and moderates. He might pull out Wisconsin (although that is very questionable) but can wave bye to Florida for sure now.


Ryan worships Ayn Rand which in my opinion, makes him a despicable piece of garbage.

And this made me chuckle: One is a robot. One is a Randroid. And they're RUNNING FOR OFFICE! Watch the zany new comedy ROMNEY AND RYAN, coming this fall!



Everything Romney has done so far in this campaign, including this pick, has been to drive turnout of conservatives... they are not trying to attract independents but figure if they can get enough of "their" people out to the polls they can win.

As opposed to Bammy who, for the last four years and before, has done everything he can to pit every segment of our society against each other?

Who is Bammy?

Next time you want an answer, clown, call him President Obama.


Typical retort of one with no valid point.  I call it like I see it.  Bammy the savior is a farce which is clearly evident to those who choose not to buy into the great savior's hype of 'the gummint will fix everything by throwing more money at it".  The man had two years of complete control in DC with him and his socialist cronies in charge of everything and they did NOTING at all but try to make themselves look good.  Now they all sit and point fingers at their failures being the fault and responsibility of others.  We wouldn't expect anything else form them, they and their clan always do everything they can to eliminate personal responsibility for anything.  Its pretty sad that you are still being fooled, you otherwise seem to be a fairly educated person.


Like I said, unless you want to refer to him by his name you're going to be having a monologue with yourself.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 12, 2012, 02:29:47 pm
Another one for Senor Walkonby (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/what-paul-rya-n-and-shirtless-have-in-common/2012/08/12/72b0e872-e419-11e1-a25e-15067bb31849_blog.html)


So fess up. Were you one of the googlers referenced?


Edit: I bet Joe was.


shirt off ? . . . i want him totally naked.  naked and those eyes staring at you.  i'm melting.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 12, 2012, 06:56:34 pm
Paul Ryan pick will firm up the wingnuts who already are voting for the Romneybot but might scare away old people and moderates. He might pull out Wisconsin (although that is very questionable) but can wave bye to Florida for sure now.


Ryan worships Ayn Rand which in my opinion, makes him a despicable piece of garbage.

And this made me chuckle: One is a robot. One is a Randroid. And they're RUNNING FOR OFFICE! Watch the zany new comedy ROMNEY AND RYAN, coming this fall!



Everything Romney has done so far in this campaign, including this pick, has been to drive turnout of conservatives... they are not trying to attract independents but figure if they can get enough of "their" people out to the polls they can win.

As opposed to Bammy who, for the last four years and before, has done everything he can to pit every segment of our society against each other?

Who is Bammy?

Next time you want an answer, clown, call him President Obama.


Typical retort of one with no valid point.  I call it like I see it.  Bammy the savior is a farce which is clearly evident to those who choose not to buy into the great savior's hype of 'the gummint will fix everything by throwing more money at it".  The man had two years of complete control in DC with him and his socialist cronies in charge of everything and they did NOTING at all but try to make themselves look good.  Now they all sit and point fingers at their failures being the fault and responsibility of others.  We wouldn't expect anything else form them, they and their clan always do everything they can to eliminate personal responsibility for anything.  Its pretty sad that you are still being fooled, you otherwise seem to be a fairly educated person.


Like I said, unless you want to refer to him by his name you're going to be having a monologue with yourself.


Yawn...  Unless you come up with a single valid point to support him and your absurd idolization of his majesty the savior, there is no need to reply on your part.  Since we all know Bammy is a sham and his socialist ways always fail, there is no chance at all of you being able to do so.  Ta ta my friend!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 12, 2012, 07:37:25 pm
If only he were an actual socialist. Things would have started to turn around by now.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: shemptiness on August 12, 2012, 07:40:43 pm
Why do they want God to save the queen?  Is she in some sort of danger?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 12, 2012, 07:47:19 pm
Paul Ryan pick will firm up the wingnuts who already are voting for the Romneybot but might scare away old people and moderates. He might pull out Wisconsin (although that is very questionable) but can wave bye to Florida for sure now.


Ryan worships Ayn Rand which in my opinion, makes him a despicable piece of garbage.

And this made me chuckle: One is a robot. One is a Randroid. And they're RUNNING FOR OFFICE! Watch the zany new comedy ROMNEY AND RYAN, coming this fall!



Everything Romney has done so far in this campaign, including this pick, has been to drive turnout of conservatives... they are not trying to attract independents but figure if they can get enough of "their" people out to the polls they can win.

As opposed to Bammy who, for the last four years and before, has done everything he can to pit every segment of our society against each other?

Who is Bammy?

Next time you want an answer, clown, call him President Obama.


Typical retort of one with no valid point.  I call it like I see it.  Bammy the savior is a farce which is clearly evident to those who choose not to buy into the great savior's hype of 'the gummint will fix everything by throwing more money at it".  The man had two years of complete control in DC with him and his socialist cronies in charge of everything and they did NOTING at all but try to make themselves look good.  Now they all sit and point fingers at their failures being the fault and responsibility of others.  We wouldn't expect anything else form them, they and their clan always do everything they can to eliminate personal responsibility for anything.  Its pretty sad that you are still being fooled, you otherwise seem to be a fairly educated person.


Like I said, unless you want to refer to him by his name you're going to be having a monologue with yourself.


Yawn...  Unless you come up with a single valid point to support him and your absurd idolization of his majesty the savior, there is no need to reply on your part.  Since we all know Bammy is a sham and his socialist ways always fail, there is no chance at all of you being able to do so.  Ta ta my friend!


I have no interest..sorry..just can't get it up for engaging you... ... will happily vote for President Obama.. and don't provoke me or I'll send some money in or volunteer!

 But I would point out to the distinguished peanut gallery that RatBastard seems like a loon much like many people who blindly and ignorantly spout hatred with respect to the President.. they don't talk about facts or ideas but use terms like "absurd idolization", "majesty the savior", "Bammy is a sham", "socialist ways always fail", etc. None of it supported by anything other than brown stuff he is pulling out of his ass.

At no point have I said that President Obama is perfect or a savior but if you support him you are ridiculed in this childish manner by people who exhibit less cranial capacity than the simians at the local zoo.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 12, 2012, 09:32:41 pm
So much for Mitt Romney's (see Ratbastard how I use his actual name? LEARN) comments that London wasn't ready to host the Olympics. They went off without a hitch.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 12, 2012, 09:44:08 pm
Way to showcase some of the most horrid living British musicians, Olympics.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 13, 2012, 12:00:02 am
And leave it NBC to ignore some the best, Elbow, Ray Davies, Muse and The Who.  And a taped bit with a new version of kate bush's running up that hill.  Brian May and Russell brand absolutely horrible
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 13, 2012, 11:09:38 am
So much for Mitt Romney's (see Ratbastard how I use his actual name? LEARN) comments that London wasn't ready to host the Olympics. They went off without a hitch.

Hey Romney....how did the Atlanta Olympics security work out for you???
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 13, 2012, 01:12:11 pm
I wonder how many babies on average are conceived in the Olympic Village during an Olympics.

Not enough.  Condom usage is through the roof in the OV....

Those folks should be procreating.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 13, 2012, 02:56:17 pm
I wonder how many babies on average are conceived in the Olympic Village during an Olympics.

Not enough.  Condom usage is through the roof in the OV....

Those folks should be procreating.

Really?  They all seem to be freaks of some sort.  6' 7" women volleyballers.  4' 10" olympic women gymnists.  you have male long distance runners who look like they don't even weigh 100 lbs. 


Overall I found the prime time NBC coverage horendous.  We can see ever heat in track but most of the sports are ignored totally.  Bob Costas is still the worst.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 13, 2012, 09:27:10 pm
It was basically a highlight reel each night. Pretty lame. And their online streams were a joke. Choppy as hell and random commercial interruptions most of which featured Tim Allen's douchetastic voice. What the fuck does "Chevy runs deep" even mean, anyway? Stupidest slogan since "Have a happy period, Always." I think I mentioned this in the Olympics thread but the BBC webcasts were the polar opposite. They gave you perfect feeds for each sport; both with and without commentary and no advertisements at all. And they were all live. I don't remember Bob Costas being as horrible as he was over the last two weeks before. Maybe I was not paying as much attention.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 14, 2012, 07:52:53 pm
If I did Facebook, this would be a FB post, but I don't, so i post it here...

My five year old was teaching me Dr. Dog lyrics at the dinner table this evening....
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 14, 2012, 09:39:54 pm
It was basically a highlight reel each night. Pretty lame. And their online streams were a joke. Choppy as hell and random commercial interruptions most of which featured Tim Allen's douchetastic voice. What the fuck does "Chevy runs deep" even mean, anyway? Stupidest slogan since "Have a happy period, Always." I think I mentioned this in the Olympics thread but the BBC webcasts were the polar opposite. They gave you perfect feeds for each sport; both with and without commentary and no advertisements at all. And they were all live. I don't remember Bob Costas being as horrible as he was over the last two weeks before. Maybe I was not paying as much attention.



truck advertising is the best.  fire tested, driving up sand dunes, towers, etc.  more geared toward the simple folk, i guess.

costas takes himself way too seriously on a network that has pretty much been the laughing stock of major networks. always trying to be strongly opinionated and tell others how they should think or feel or matters that are often trivial and not worth discussion.  he's at his worst during sunday night NFL games.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 15, 2012, 08:41:25 am
Who was the woman who interviewed the athletes right after their event?

"How does it feel to lose/miss out on a medal/be elminated in the qualifying rounds?"

"Well, seeing as I've trained hard for about 8 hours a day, 6 days a week for the last 4 years. Put my heart and soul into it and dreamed about stepping onto the podium. IT FUCKING SUCKS MONKEY BALLS YOU STUPID COW.....HOW THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IF FEELS?"

I thought Phelps handled her brilliantly.


She was terrible.

At least we didn't have to suffer through too many 'he grew up in the projects. Raising his younger siblings alone. Working 9 jobs just to put food on the table because his father was in prison for child molestation and his mother out on the streets pimping herself for meth' blah de blah de fucking blah blah blah.....or was I just fortunate enough to miss them all?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 15, 2012, 05:33:17 pm
No, there was quite a bit of that.


That shit's all gotta go, too.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 15, 2012, 05:35:52 pm
Who was the woman who interviewed the athletes right after their event?

I thought Phelps handled her brilliantly.


She was terrible.

Andrea Kremer is that particular example.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 15, 2012, 05:40:02 pm
I am convinced most ballplayers are using performance enhancing drugs.

It sucks cause every time somebody has a good year you have to consider this..its kind of ruined the game a bit for me.. I'd like it more if they made all that stuff legal and at least you knew everyone competed from the same place.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 15, 2012, 05:48:28 pm
I didn't realize Ratbastard was quiet lately because he's in the far east.


Mustaine made the comments on stage at an August 7 performance in Singapore ... when he told the crowd, "Back in my country, my president ... he's trying to pass a gun ban, so he's staging all of these murders, like the 'Fast And Furious' thing down at the border ... Aurora, Colorado, all the people that were killed there ... and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple."
...
He continued, "I don't know where I'm gonna live if America keeps going the way it's going because it looks like it's turning into Nazi America."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2012/08/megadeth-frontman-badmouths-obama-132239.html?hp=r6
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 16, 2012, 02:13:47 pm
Now this is bizarre...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/16/alleged-gunman-in-family-research-council-shooting-expected-in-court-thursday/?test=latestnews
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 16, 2012, 02:18:40 pm
I am convinced most ballplayers are using performance enhancing drugs.

It sucks cause every time somebody has a good year you have to consider this..its kind of ruined the game a bit for me.. I'd like it more if they made all that stuff legal and at least you knew everyone competed from the same place.



Lifting weights is performance enhancing.
Working out is performance enhancing.
Taking vitamins is performance enhancing.
Getting a good nights sleep is performance enhancing.
Batting practice is performance enhancing.

Unless a specific performance enhancement is otherwise illegal, they ought to be allowed to do whatever they damn well please (and are willing to assume the risk of) to their own bodies.  It is absurd to make some arbitrary list of some performance enhancements that are allowed and some that are not.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 16, 2012, 03:58:24 pm
I am convinced most ballplayers are using performance enhancing drugs.

It sucks cause every time somebody has a good year you have to consider this..its kind of ruined the game a bit for me.. I'd like it more if they made all that stuff legal and at least you knew everyone competed from the same place.



Lifting weights is performance enhancing.
Working out is performance enhancing.
Taking vitamins is performance enhancing.
Getting a good nights sleep is performance enhancing.
Batting practice is performance enhancing.

Unless a specific performance enhancement is otherwise illegal, they ought to be allowed to do whatever they damn well please (and are willing to assume the risk of) to their own bodies.  It is absurd to make some arbitrary list of some performance enhancements that are allowed and some that are not.



well i guess it is out of fairness to the people who might actually want to play baseball without using harmful drugs. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 16, 2012, 06:26:51 pm
I am convinced most ballplayers are using performance enhancing drugs.

It sucks cause every time somebody has a good year you have to consider this..its kind of ruined the game a bit for me.. I'd like it more if they made all that stuff legal and at least you knew everyone competed from the same place.



Lifting weights is performance enhancing.
Working out is performance enhancing.
Taking vitamins is performance enhancing.
Getting a good nights sleep is performance enhancing.
Batting practice is performance enhancing.

Unless a specific performance enhancement is otherwise illegal, they ought to be allowed to do whatever they damn well please (and are willing to assume the risk of) to their own bodies.  It is absurd to make some arbitrary list of some performance enhancements that are allowed and some that are not.



well i guess it is out of fairness to the people who might actually want to play baseball without using harmful drugs. 

As long as it isn't illegal, your point is irrelevant.  One could make the same debate about people who want to have a fair chance without working out.  Lifting weights can be dangerous.  If the substance is only legal with a prescription, as long as a doctor prescribes it, who cares?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 16, 2012, 06:27:47 pm
Remember we are JUST talking baseball.  This is basically a game where (for the vast majority of the game) seven guys stand around watching two guys play catch.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 16, 2012, 07:43:57 pm
I think its more unfair not to make them legal than it is to keep them illegal.. guys like Arod.. the big guys with the huge contracts and bigtime money have contacts that let them have an edge when it comes to- lets call it- doping.. they can get the better doping doctors who have the better masking techniques etc...

there is no doubt that many players who suddenly put up huge numbers are doping... yet we all sit around getting excited about the numbers and production, and get the huge contracts, when in reality they have an unfair advantage.. i think if you opened it up everyone could compete on the same grounds

do we even know who would be better player if conditions were equal? it might not even be the guys we think are really good!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 16, 2012, 09:31:20 pm
There is a Youtube vid of that crazypants Alex Jones saying this making the rounds. Guessing that is where he got it.

I didn't realize Ratbastard was quiet lately because he's in the far east.


Mustaine made the comments on stage at an August 7 performance in Singapore ... when he told the crowd, "Back in my country, my president ... he's trying to pass a gun ban, so he's staging all of these murders, like the 'Fast And Furious' thing down at the border ... Aurora, Colorado, all the people that were killed there ... and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple."
...
He continued, "I don't know where I'm gonna live if America keeps going the way it's going because it looks like it's turning into Nazi America."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2012/08/megadeth-frontman-badmouths-obama-132239.html?hp=r6
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 17, 2012, 04:21:22 am
I think its more unfair not to make them legal than it is to keep them illegal.. guys like Arod.. the big guys with the huge contracts and bigtime money have contacts that let them have an edge when it comes to- lets call it- doping.. they can get the better doping doctors who have the better masking techniques etc...

there is no doubt that many players who suddenly put up huge numbers are doping... yet we all sit around getting excited about the numbers and production, and get the huge contracts, when in reality they have an unfair advantage.. i think if you opened it up everyone could compete on the same grounds

do we even know who would be better player if conditions were equal? it might not even be the guys we think are really good!

First off, do you mean legal/illegal in a pure against the law sense or banned/not banned substances for baseball (sports)?  In my earlier post I was meaning the against the law thing.  As far as I care, as long as they are not against the law to use, I could not care less what method of improving his playing ability a player uses.  I don't see a distinction between ingesting vitamins, nutritional supplements, HGH, or steroids (setting aside the against the law issue).  It seems rather absurd to pick which (legal) means of making your body better at a given task are acceptable and which aren't.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 17, 2012, 08:28:50 am
Remember we are JUST talking baseball.  This is basically a game where (for the vast majority of the game) seven guys stand around watching two guys play catch.

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTeBkwsuGz83iRG_uCfwLFRJoZLQRzXFGhjERdA3eJQH2EcTTxSJNRsgRr7)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 17, 2012, 10:39:11 am
can we change the thread title to


the boring hutch versus ratbastard thread
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 17, 2012, 10:48:12 am
can we change the thread title to


the boring hutch versus ratbastard thread



I think we're agreeing on the baseball stuff...

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 17, 2012, 11:01:07 am
baby i'm bored
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 17, 2012, 11:23:03 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/17/tom-morello-paul-ryan-rage-against-the-machine_n_1795607.html?1345204995&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

nice!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 17, 2012, 12:19:38 pm
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Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 17, 2012, 12:44:34 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/582602_10151325227671679_1102322761_n.jpg)

so true.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 17, 2012, 12:59:31 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/17/tom-morello-paul-ryan-rage-against-the-machine_n_1795607.html?1345204995&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

nice!

I am so sick of these bands saying they are going to sue politicians for using their songs when the politicians are using their songs legally (Sivlersun pick-ups in this case.  Whom should be sued by the smashing pumpkins) 

And tom morello Romney/Ryan is almost exactly the same as Obama/Biden.  Wake up.  I thought you had a top notch education?


Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 17, 2012, 01:22:37 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/17/tom-morello-paul-ryan-rage-against-the-machine_n_1795607.html?1345204995&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

nice!

I am so sick of these bands saying they are going to sue politicians for using their songs when the politicians are using their songs legally (Sivlersun pick-ups in this case.  Whom should be sued by the smashing pumpkins) 

And tom morello Romney/Ryan is almost exactly the same as Obama/Biden.  Wake up.  I thought you had a top notch education?




Ever wonder why its always the Republicans getting into trouble??
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 17, 2012, 02:23:30 pm
that story had nothing to do with a band suing a politician for song use . . . or did i miss some other tangent?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 17, 2012, 02:44:58 pm
i think they are yelling about facebook or twitter or something in some other thread over there yonder . . . but this story shows you just how "important" some people believe the stuff actually is.

http://news.yahoo.com/fake-followers-newest-ploy-accusation-politics-074836615.html
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: shemptiness on August 17, 2012, 09:43:18 pm
The NFL can't possibly start the season with these officials, right?

And the NHL......  ugh
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 17, 2012, 10:20:01 pm
can we change the thread title to


the boring hutch versus ratbastard thread



I think we're agreeing on the baseball stuff...



I never take this as an A v B thing.  Nothing at all wrong with a little debate/discussion with opposing views.  No one is right or wrong when it come to opinions (well except for me, cause I am NEVER wrong).


I seriously do find soccer, baseball, and golf to be the three most boring sports ever (in order worst to least offensive).
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 18, 2012, 09:07:32 am
No one is right or wrong when it come to opinions (well except for me, cause I am NEVER wrong).




I thought that was Vansmack
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 18, 2012, 01:56:00 pm
No one is right or wrong when it come to opinions (well except for me, cause I am NEVER wrong).




I thought that was Vansmack

That proves my point, I am right you are wrong! :) :) :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 19, 2012, 07:49:10 am
This Assange thing is getting super intense. He is about to speak from London. http://globalrevolution.tv

P.S. Bradley Manning should be considered a national hero.
 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 19, 2012, 09:30:15 am
manning is gay.

no one cares about the gays.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 19, 2012, 10:29:36 am
Full statement here. (http://rt.com/news/assange-wikileaks-public-statement-ecuador-embassy-london-057/)

Short but basically what was expected.


Anyone remember when Obama said whistleblowers would and should be protected while he is in office? What happened there? Just one of a growing list of reasons to not vote for him. Looking more and more as though my president box will be left blank. Or maybe I will write J Mascis in just for giggles.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on August 19, 2012, 10:41:43 am

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Az, I haven't decided whom to vote for yet either but I absolutely know that it will NOT be that corrupt traitorous puppet Obamney.

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Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on August 19, 2012, 10:53:54 am
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/ (http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/)
You can vote libertarian.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on August 19, 2012, 10:59:18 am
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/ (http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/)
You can vote libertarian.

I had considered him but after reading and hearing some interviews with him, I didn't feel comfortable with him either. Then again, may be worth it as a protest vote as well as the many, many others that the controlled two party system, by hook or by crook, won't let win.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 19, 2012, 11:13:44 am
Yeah, he's further to the right than Romney and Ryan on a bunch of issues. No thanks. I want a solid liberal candidate. And from a personal standpoint, my voting libertarian would basically be my voting against certain laws and benefits that help to keep me a contributing member of society.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 19, 2012, 01:27:50 pm
Wow. Nice little curve ball thrown at readers in this op-ed.
 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/opinion/sunday/coates-obamas-perceived-transformation.html?_r=1&hp)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 19, 2012, 02:12:36 pm
Yeah, he's further to the right than Romney and Ryan on a bunch of issues. No thanks. I want a solid liberal candidate. And from a personal standpoint, my voting libertarian would basically be my voting against certain laws and benefits that help to keep me a contributing member of society.



You're crazy.. If you had even been voting in 2000, with this rationale you'd have voted for for Nader. How did that work out for you? You enjoyed the wars? The creation of a conservative majority on the Court?

Obviously who you vote for is irrelevant unless you live in Virginia anyways so I think you're giving this a bit too much thought!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 19, 2012, 02:57:37 pm
I live in Maryland which went Gore. And if I didn't, I would think harder about my decision to not vote for Obama; living in MD does grant me a little more leeway like you implied.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on August 19, 2012, 05:39:55 pm
Yeah, he's further to the right than Romney and Ryan on a bunch of issues. No thanks. I want a solid liberal candidate. And from a personal standpoint, my voting libertarian would basically be my voting against certain laws and benefits that help to keep me a contributing member of society.



You're crazy.. If you had even been voting in 2000, with this rationale you'd have voted for for Nader. How did that work out for you? You enjoyed the wars? The creation of a conservative majority on the Court?

Obviously who you vote for is irrelevant unless you live in Virginia anyways so I think you're giving this a bit too much thought!

I voted Nader last election.  I don't agree with your rationale.  If all of the Gore supporters had voted for Nadar we would have been better off.  Gore didn't win his home state.  If he had he would have been president.  You should vote who you think the best candidate not who you think will win.  That is how we have Obama and GW as back to back presidents.  Two presidents who will have bankrupted the country and who care nothing about the working man. 

I still haven't decided whom I am voting for but it won't be Obama or Romney.  I did one of those online issues thing and it told me which candidate to vote for and Romney and Obama were the lowest two candidates in issues in common with me.  Both at 60 percent.  They are both the status quo. If you are happy with the way the country is currently being run then by all means vote for one of them. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 19, 2012, 08:51:46 pm
Yeah, he's further to the right than Romney and Ryan on a bunch of issues. No thanks. I want a solid liberal candidate. And from a personal standpoint, my voting libertarian would basically be my voting against certain laws and benefits that help to keep me a contributing member of society.



You're crazy.. If you had even been voting in 2000, with this rationale you'd have voted for for Nader. How did that work out for you? You enjoyed the wars? The creation of a conservative majority on the Court?

Obviously who you vote for is irrelevant unless you live in Virginia anyways so I think you're giving this a bit too much thought!

I voted Nader last election.  I don't agree with your rationale.  If all of the Gore supporters had voted for Nadar we would have been better off.  Gore didn't win his home state.  If he had he would have been president.  You should vote who you think the best candidate not who you think will win.  That is how we have Obama and GW as back to back presidents.  Two presidents who will have bankrupted the country and who care nothing about the working man. 

I still haven't decided whom I am voting for but it won't be Obama or Romney.  I did one of those online issues thing and it told me which candidate to vote for and Romney and Obama were the lowest two candidates in issues in common with me.  Both at 60 percent.  They are both the status quo. If you are happy with the way the country is currently being run then by all means vote for one of them. 


Listen to me and listen good cause I'm only going to write this down one time. To me George W. Bush is the worst American president in history and wasn't even initially elected by the people (more like appointed by an activist Republican Supreme Court that decided to STOP A STATE from counting the votes of its residents in an unprecedented decision). George W. Bush got us involved in two useless wars, spent us into bankruptcy, is at least partly responsible for 9-11 happening, and to cap it all off presided over the country going into the great recession. There is a reason he is in hiding and won't even come out for the Republican Convention.

 I don't believe most of the what happened in the 2000-2008 period would have happened had Al Gore been elected president in 2000 (and in a way I still think he WAS elected).

It is of course inarguable that Al Gore ran a bad campaign. But George W Bush's "election" was a tragedy. They're still bringing back the body bags...and the blood is on his hands.

I can't tell anyone else what to do but I think I - myself- have to be a realistic voter.. does that mean never voting for a third party option? No. I have voted for the third party option in a case where I think my vote actually did have an impact even though the candidate lost. Voting for Nader had zero positive impact and in fact a lot of negative impact as Bush did way more against Nader's "agenda" than Gore would have done. In an ideal world we'd all vote for the candidate we like most but politics is not the ideal world..its the real world.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 19, 2012, 09:23:25 pm
as mentioned on the last page, I have a laundry list of reasons (will touch on only a few items here) why I cannot in good conscience vote Obama. Granted most of them are due to pressure from Wall ST., to the health/pharmie industry to defense contractors to AIPAC but a good president should be able to stand up to that pressure and keep promises that he made and squeeze his agenda through (Bush tax cuts for rich should have been repealed in 2010, the health care act should have a public option in it to name a couple).  Especially since he had a super majority in the Senate and a majority in the house! Other presidents have gotten their agendas through with a lot less. Also, there are the 180's he has made in office. The two most glaring are the fact that he has done little to close Gitmo and his failure to hold the Israeli government's feet to the fire with regard to illegal settlements. Instead, he gave that embarrassing abortion of a speech at the UN last September. And then there were the dickings over of great Americans who legitimately want  to change the US  for the better regardless of who is trying to stop them like Elizabeth Warren and Van Jones. I suppose he could grow a pair in term 2 (which I still have trouble not seeing him win) but I totally feel let down and a bit slighted after the first one.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 19, 2012, 10:40:15 pm
Some burly perv with bad taste in dudes should stalk Todd Akin and jam a fist in his butt. All the way up to the elbow. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/08/19/159273876/missouri-gop-senate-candidates-remarks-on-rape-stir-controversy?ft=1&f=1001&sc=tw&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 19, 2012, 10:58:48 pm
as mentioned on the last page, I have a laundry list of reasons (will touch on only a few items here) why I cannot in good conscience vote Obama. Granted most of them are due to pressure from Wall ST., to the health/pharmie industry to defense contractors to AIPAC but a good president should be able to stand up to that pressure and keep promises that he made and squeeze his agenda through (Bush tax cuts for rich should have been repealed in 2010, the health care act should have a public option in it to name a couple).  Especially since he had a super majority in the Senate and a majority in the house! Other presidents have gotten their agendas through with a lot less. Also, there are the 180's he has made in office. The two most glaring are the fact that he has done little to close Gitmo and his failure to hold the Israeli government's feet to the fire with regard to illegal settlements. Instead, he gave that embarrassing abortion of a speech at the UN last September. And then there were the dickings over of great Americans who legitimately want  to change the US  for the better regardless of who is trying to stop them like Elizabeth Warren and Van Jones. I suppose he could grow a pair in term 2 (which I still have trouble not seeing him win) but I totally feel let down and a bit slighted after the first one.



you are living in fantasy land my boardie friend... he has done and said TOO MUCH with respect to Israel.. have you not noticed the huge shafting he's been taking on the issue??  its pretty clear that he's told Netanyahu what he thinks and its clear they don't like it which has led to ICY relations... so I think he's put himself on the line more than you give him credit for.. he can't make Israel do anything

I think part of the failure to get things done even controlling the House and Senate has been due to some procedural changes in the way the Senate handles its business... you need, I think, 60 votes and it was not possible to get 60 solid votes... in the old days with a majority you could do stuff but now they fillibuster everything.. i think he did get health care through with less than 60 at the end on some technicality/procedural thing I don't quite know.. or maybe I'm plain wrong on this and he just came in with the wrong approach wanting to build a concensus and work together too much...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 19, 2012, 11:08:29 pm
He did get the 60 votes on health care because of what the bill was turned into. More specifically, no public option. Instead, he should have kept it in and gone LBJ on the Democrats that refused to fall in line. W/R/T Israel and settlements, he could say all he wants privately but public pressure is what matters. Would it really have been that crazy for  him to have threatened to cut that unnecessary $3 billion we give them each year for instance?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 19, 2012, 11:12:46 pm
Yeah, he's further to the right than Romney and Ryan on a bunch of issues. No thanks. I want a solid liberal candidate. And from a personal standpoint, my voting libertarian would basically be my voting against certain laws and benefits that help to keep me a contributing member of society.



You're crazy.. If you had even been voting in 2000, with this rationale you'd have voted for for Nader. How did that work out for you? You enjoyed the wars? The creation of a conservative majority on the Court?

Obviously who you vote for is irrelevant unless you live in Virginia anyways so I think you're giving this a bit too much thought!

I voted Nader last election.  I don't agree with your rationale.  If all of the Gore supporters had voted for Nadar we would have been better off.  Gore didn't win his home state.  If he had he would have been president.  You should vote who you think the best candidate not who you think will win.  That is how we have Obama and GW as back to back presidents.  Two presidents who will have bankrupted the country and who care nothing about the working man. 

I still haven't decided whom I am voting for but it won't be Obama or Romney.  I did one of those online issues thing and it told me which candidate to vote for and Romney and Obama were the lowest two candidates in issues in common with me.  Both at 60 percent.  They are both the status quo. If you are happy with the way the country is currently being run then by all means vote for one of them. 


Listen to me and listen good cause I'm only going to write this down one time. To me George W. Bush is the worst American president in history and wasn't even initially elected by the people (more like appointed by an activist Republican Supreme Court that decided to STOP A STATE from counting the votes of its residents in an unprecedented decision). George W. Bush got us involved in two useless wars, spent us into bankruptcy, is at least partly responsible for 9-11 happening, and to cap it all off presided over the country going into the great recession. There is a reason he is in hiding and won't even come out for the Republican Convention.

 I don't believe most of the what happened in the 2000-2008 period would have happened had Al Gore been elected president in 2000 (and in a way I still think he WAS elected).

It is of course inarguable that Al Gore ran a bad campaign. But George W Bush's "election" was a tragedy. They're still bringing back the body bags...and the blood is on his hands.

I can't tell anyone else what to do but I think I - myself- have to be a realistic voter.. does that mean never voting for a third party option? No. I have voted for the third party option in a case where I think my vote actually did have an impact even though the candidate lost. Voting for Nader had zero positive impact and in fact a lot of negative impact as Bush did way more against Nader's "agenda" than Gore would have done. In an ideal world we'd all vote for the candidate we like most but politics is not the ideal world..its the real world.




What happened when you woke up and started dealing with reality?

The election you cite was a well played political strategy by the Republicans.  The Democrats just got out played on that one (although I do think it was a tad on the less than honorable manner in which the game was played).  Although your description of what happened is more than slightly spun.

Anyway, if these wars were with no meaning or cause then why in the world has the savior Bammy not gotten us out of them in FOUR YEARS, especially when he and his libtard socialist left wing nut jobs had control of everything for the first two years?  Oh yeah, they were spending us out of debt by passing a health care law that most Americans do not want.  Please do not insult us by saying that whole piece of crap will save money.  We all know damn well that type of legislation ALWAYS runs up the debt.

Truth be told, I didn't think GWB was a very good president either.  I have a lot of respect for the man but he was just not the right man for the job.  I firmly believe that he got elected because so many people thought it would "be cool" to have another father and son president, just as I believe that Bammy got elected because so many thought it would "be cool" to elected a black guy.  Those of us who have any degree of knowledge have learned long ago that making a decision on which option would "be cool" almost always leads to a bad choice.

I do admire very much that you vote for who you think should win (I think that is what you are saying anyway).  If we all voted for who we REALLY wanted rather than who we think probably will end up winning, we might actually elected someone worth a crap.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 20, 2012, 09:01:29 am
I can understand why people would think it would be cool to have a black president, but people thought a father/son presidency would be cool? Really?

And what is their really to respect about GW Bush?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 20, 2012, 09:02:56 am
I think the voting on American Idol proves this statement to be spot fucking on!



I do admire very much that you vote for who you think should win (I think that is what you are saying anyway).  If we all voted for who we REALLY wanted rather than who we think probably will end up winning, we might actually elected someone worth a crap.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 20, 2012, 09:06:47 am
I've never voted negative (voting for one simply because you don't like the other) In 08 I left my Presidential ballot blank because I certainly didn't want McCain and was very suspicious of Obama...he came from nowhere. Neither one were worthy of my vote.

This time may be different. We just HAVE to get Obama and his left wing radical cabinet out, so I'll probably vote for Romney for that reason alone....then I'll go take a long hot shower.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 20, 2012, 09:12:12 am
I've hear word that you're not going to get the chance. Obama is going to declare himself dictator. There isn't going to be any election.

I've never voted negative (voting for one simply because you don't like the other) In 08 I left my Presidential ballot blank because I certainly didn't want McCain and was very suspicious of Obama...he came from nowhere. Neither one were worthy of my vote.

This time may be different. We just HAVE to get Obama and his left wing radical cabinet out, so I'll probably vote for Romney for that reason alone....then I'll go take a long hot shower.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2012, 10:11:17 am
I've never voted negative (voting for one simply because you don't like the other) In 08 I left my Presidential ballot blank because I certainly didn't want McCain and was very suspicious of Obama...he came from nowhere. Neither one were worthy of my vote.

This time may be different. We just HAVE to get Obama and his left wing radical cabinet out, so I'll probably vote for Romney for that reason alone....then I'll go take a long hot shower.


Again, if you don't live in Virginia don't worry about it man.

I find it interesting that Frank cites President Obama and his left wing radical cabinet while Azaghal talks about how President Obama is to the right of Romney on many issues. I think you're both wrong.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 20, 2012, 10:42:53 am
I've never voted negative (voting for one simply because you don't like the other) In 08 I left my Presidential ballot blank because I certainly didn't want McCain and was very suspicious of Obama...he came from nowhere. Neither one were worthy of my vote.

This time may be different. We just HAVE to get Obama and his left wing radical cabinet out, so I'll probably vote for Romney for that reason alone....then I'll go take a long hot shower.


Again, if you don't live in Virginia don't worry about it man.

I find it interesting that Frank cites President Obama and his left wing radical cabinet while Azaghal talks about how President Obama is to the right of Romney on many issues. I think you're both wrong.


I never said Obama was to the right of Romney. I was referring to Gary Johnson in that post. Sorry if that was unclear.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2012, 10:48:17 am
so what is the difference between legitimate rape and forcible rape?


Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 20, 2012, 10:56:20 am
The last time i checked, Frank lives in Florida.

I've never voted negative (voting for one simply because you don't like the other) In 08 I left my Presidential ballot blank because I certainly didn't want McCain and was very suspicious of Obama...he came from nowhere. Neither one were worthy of my vote.

This time may be different. We just HAVE to get Obama and his left wing radical cabinet out, so I'll probably vote for Romney for that reason alone....then I'll go take a long hot shower.


Again, if you don't live in Virginia don't worry about it man.

I find it interesting that Frank cites President Obama and his left wing radical cabinet while Azaghal talks about how President Obama is to the right of Romney on many issues. I think you're both wrong.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2012, 10:58:39 am
The last time i checked, Frank lives in Florida.

I've never voted negative (voting for one simply because you don't like the other) In 08 I left my Presidential ballot blank because I certainly didn't want McCain and was very suspicious of Obama...he came from nowhere. Neither one were worthy of my vote.

This time may be different. We just HAVE to get Obama and his left wing radical cabinet out, so I'll probably vote for Romney for that reason alone....then I'll go take a long hot shower.


Again, if you don't live in Virginia don't worry about it man.

I find it interesting that Frank cites President Obama and his left wing radical cabinet while Azaghal talks about how President Obama is to the right of Romney on many issues. I think you're both wrong.

oh good to know.. what's he doing on this board then? oh wait they don't have music in Florida

So what is the difference between the "legitimate rape" Republican Rep. Todd Akin referred to yesterday in a television interview, and "forcible rape" as included in a House Resolution he co-sponsored with Republican Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan? I don't know.. where I'm from rape is rape. There is no good rape or bad rape. Call me old fashioned I guess...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 20, 2012, 11:07:25 am
Pretty sure he was implying that many women claim rape in order to get an abortion regularly.
I hope that we can all agree that he is a scumbag.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2012, 11:25:46 am
Pretty sure he was implying that many women claim rape in order to get an abortion regularly.
I hope that we can all agree that he is a scumbag.



cue the predictable "yes he was wrong to say that BUT Hussein Bammy the muslim America hater ate babies in Indonesia.."
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 20, 2012, 11:33:34 am
best new name for a band

"legitimate rape"
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 20, 2012, 11:40:12 am
It sounds like an Anal Cunt song title.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 20, 2012, 11:46:20 am
no . . . anal cunt, sounds like a legitimate rape song.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 20, 2012, 11:52:32 am
But...Anal Cunt already were a band.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 20, 2012, 11:57:49 am
so picky.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2012, 12:11:18 pm
But...Anal Cunt already were a band.


such a stickler
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 20, 2012, 12:18:22 pm
The last time i checked, Frank lives in Florida.

I've never voted negative (voting for one simply because you don't like the other) In 08 I left my Presidential ballot blank because I certainly didn't want McCain and was very suspicious of Obama...he came from nowhere. Neither one were worthy of my vote.

This time may be different. We just HAVE to get Obama and his left wing radical cabinet out, so I'll probably vote for Romney for that reason alone....then I'll go take a long hot shower.


Again, if you don't live in Virginia don't worry about it man.

I find it interesting that Frank cites President Obama and his left wing radical cabinet while Azaghal talks about how President Obama is to the right of Romney on many issues. I think you're both wrong.

oh good to know.. what's he doing on this board then? oh wait they don't have music in FloridaSo what is the difference between the "legitimate rape" Republican Rep. Todd Akin referred to yesterday in a television interview, and "forcible rape" as included in a House Resolution he co-sponsored with Republican Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan? I don't know.. where I'm from rape is rape. There is no good rape or bad rape. Call me old fashioned I guess...

I lived in DC for 20 years...and unless you call Jimmy Buffet cover bands music.....NO!!!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 20, 2012, 01:03:04 pm
Anyone remember when Obama said whistleblowers would and should be protected while he is in office? What happened there?

there is a difference between someone releasing secrets because they further public good, vs. being a shit-disturber like assange who releases secrets just because - and regardless of the consequences. 

i'm entirely in favor of freedom of information, free expression, etc.  but assange has taken that to dangerous extremes.  what good came from the leak of all those diplomatic cables?  none that i know of, and quite a lot of damage: names of secret informants in afghanistan and iraq were leaked and they had to run for their lives.  leaking personal notes about what one diplomat thought of a given ambassador didn't create openess - it create bad feelings and resentment.  not useful, but boy did it make assange look like some sort of an online prophet.  the man is a misdirected megalomaniac.

not everything needs to be in the public light.  if wikileaks bothered to sift through the stuff they got and post the stuff that was relevant to the public interest, i'd have a lot more respect for assange.  instead, he's a little kid running away singing "nanny nanny boo boo!" as he leaves a bag of lit poo on the world's doorstep.  he had a great idea but he wasted it on pissing people off and making a name for himself instead of taking it to somewhere useful.

if you're a true believer in wikileaks, please post a file of all your personal e-mails and your browser history.  why are you hiding that information?!?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 20, 2012, 01:15:57 pm
Anyone remember when Obama said whistleblowers would and should be protected while he is in office? What happened there?

there is a difference between someone releasing secrets because they further public good, vs. being a shit-disturber like assange who releases secrets just because - and regardless of the consequences. 

i'm entirely in favor of freedom of information, free expression, etc.  but assange has taken that to dangerous extremes.  what good came from the leak of all those diplomatic cables?  none that i know of, and quite a lot of damage: names of secret informants in afghanistan and iraq were leaked and they had to run for their lives.  leaking personal notes about what one diplomat thought of a given ambassador didn't create openess - it create bad feelings and resentment.  not useful, but boy did it make assange look like some sort of an online prophet.  the man is a misdirected megalomaniac.

not everything needs to be in the public light.  if wikileaks bothered to sift through the stuff they got and post the stuff that was relevant to the public interest, i'd have a lot more respect for assange.  instead, he's a little kid running away singing "nanny nanny boo boo!" as he leaves a bag of lit poo on the world's doorstep.  he had a great idea but he wasted it on pissing people off and making a name for himself instead of taking it to somewhere useful.

if you're a true believer in wikileaks, please post a file of all your personal e-mails and your browser history.  why are you hiding that information?!?

...don't forget your ss#, banking information and credit card account information.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2012, 03:47:31 pm
i have a hard time believing there is some plot to get him extradited to Sweden on false charges.. the Swedes don't strike me as playing those games.. he's wanted for, I think, rape. I say he accept the extradition and deal with the consequences in Sweden. I can't believe people are up in arms about defending this guy..
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 20, 2012, 04:24:28 pm
He has said he would return to Sweden and face the charges if he could get a guarantee from the Swedes that they would not extradite him.
And nobody has said that he shouldn't be held accountable if he did in fact assault these girls.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2012, 05:26:39 pm
He has said he would return to Sweden and face the charges if he could get a guarantee from the Swedes that they would not extradite him.
And nobody has said that he shouldn't be held accountable if he did in fact assault these girls.


I don't believe he is in a position to make demands, do you? He is facing charges for rape. He gets no "break".

He has to face the justice system like anybody else. I have no way of knowing if Sweden would extradite him but I doubt it but it is laughable to say he gets to ask for guarantees.. would I get to ask for a guarantee? Of course not. The Swedish justice system cannot made deals with potential criminals before they are even in Sweden. It just doesn't work like that.

I know you look at him as some sort of modern day hero but I would urge you to think about it. Rape is a serious deal and to imply, as you do, that this is all being made up by Sweden seems a little lacking in seriousness. Sweden is not Ecuador, for example, a country which is a banana republic run by a bad excuse for an authoritarian populist who disregards the rule of law.

ANd you say "nobody has said he should not be held accountable".. well how is he going to be held accountable if he does not go back to Sweden and hides in the Embassy of Ecuador?

Honestly, your position is untenable.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 20, 2012, 06:45:03 pm
I can understand why people would think it would be cool to have a black president, but people thought a father/son presidency would be cool? Really?

And what is their really to respect about GW Bush?

I cannot understand either, but I am absolutely 100% sure that it is the case.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 20, 2012, 06:47:04 pm
I've hear word that you're not going to get the chance. Obama is going to declare himself dictator. There isn't going to be any election.

I've never voted negative (voting for one simply because you don't like the other) In 08 I left my Presidential ballot blank because I certainly didn't want McCain and was very suspicious of Obama...he came from nowhere. Neither one were worthy of my vote.

This time may be different. We just HAVE to get Obama and his left wing radical cabinet out, so I'll probably vote for Romney for that reason alone....then I'll go take a long hot shower.

He doesn't have to.  He has already proclaimed himself the saviour and so many of the lemmings and uneducated have fallen for it! :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 20, 2012, 06:50:33 pm
so what is the difference between legitimate rape and forcible rape?




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Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 20, 2012, 07:16:06 pm


Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/08/rosie-odonnell-suffers-a-heart-attack/)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 20, 2012, 08:07:56 pm
really?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2012, 10:44:55 pm
Republican working hard to lock up the rapist constituency vote. Now I see why they picked Paul Ryan. His track record as a leader on "forcible rape" really helps woo the rapist vote.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2012, 11:07:03 pm
"Its a war on women.. its a war on women.. you have to die.. you have to die"
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on August 20, 2012, 11:09:20 pm
Republican working hard to lock up the rapist constituency vote. Now I see why they picked Paul Ryan. His track record as a leader on "forcible rape" really helps woo the rapist vote.

This is just an absurd statement. You are really stretching here.

By no means am I meaning to defend Republicans, especially Ryan, since I have no respect for the party itself nor the man, but this is a seriously dumb accusation.

If you chose to be honest, you'd find that there are a whole lot of good Republicans and Democrats. These people are trying to be good people and lean towards one or the other based on which direction they believe will best obtain that goal. It's tough choosing a side since both of the official parties have been completely corrupted. Those who slash out and throw any old kind of insult, regardless of validity, towards either party blindly across the board are drunk on their own preferred flavor of Kool-Aid. You've just regurgitated your own.

On another note, Akin is one Hell of a psycho! I don't get the difference either, in his warped mind, what the differences are supposed to be regarding rape. That whacko probably thinks one is 'she said no but meant yes' for the lesser. Or maybe if it's done by a spouse or partner. Yeah, right, asshole Akin! You (Hutch) and I are of the same mind on that issue. That idiot just wrote his own pink slip, thankfully.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 21, 2012, 01:34:10 am
I don't think it is asking much of Sweden to guarantee no extradition to a country in which he could face the death penalty.
He has said he would return to Sweden and face the charges if he could get a guarantee from the Swedes that they would not extradite him.
And nobody has said that he shouldn't be held accountable if he did in fact assault these girls.


I don't believe he is in a position to make demands, do you? He is facing charges for rape. He gets no "break".

He has to face the justice system like anybody else. I have no way of knowing if Sweden would extradite him but I doubt it but it is laughable to say he gets to ask for guarantees.. would I get to ask for a guarantee? Of course not. The Swedish justice system cannot made deals with potential criminals before they are even in Sweden. It just doesn't work like that.

I know you look at him as some sort of modern day hero but I would urge you to think about it. Rape is a serious deal and to imply, as you do, that this is all being made up by Sweden seems a little lacking in seriousness. Sweden is not Ecuador, for example, a country which is a banana republic run by a bad excuse for an authoritarian populist who disregards the rule of law.

ANd you say "nobody has said he should not be held accountable".. well how is he going to be held accountable if he does not go back to Sweden and hides in the Embassy of Ecuador?

Honestly, your position is untenable.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 21, 2012, 02:17:04 pm
welcome to america . . . land of the stupid white fuckheads.

http://news.yahoo.com/u-army-battling-racists-within-own-ranks-050115179.html
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 21, 2012, 04:42:37 pm
welcome to america . . . land of the stupid white fuckheads.

http://news.yahoo.com/u-army-battling-racists-within-own-ranks-050115179.html

hmmmm...so only whites are racist then???
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 21, 2012, 05:10:09 pm
as mentioned on the last page, I have a laundry list of reasons (will touch on only a few items here) why I cannot in good conscience vote Obama. Granted most of them are due to pressure from Wall ST., to the health/pharmie industry to defense contractors to AIPAC but a good president should be able to stand up to that pressure and keep promises that he made and squeeze his agenda through (Bush tax cuts for rich should have been repealed in 2010, the health care act should have a public option in it to name a couple).  Especially since he had a super majority in the Senate and a majority in the house! Other presidents have gotten their agendas through with a lot less. Also, there are the 180's he has made in office. The two most glaring are the fact that he has done little to close Gitmo and his failure to hold the Israeli government's feet to the fire with regard to illegal settlements. Instead, he gave that embarrassing abortion of a speech at the UN last September. And then there were the dickings over of great Americans who legitimately want  to change the US  for the better regardless of who is trying to stop them like Elizabeth Warren and Van Jones. I suppose he could grow a pair in term 2 (which I still have trouble not seeing him win) but I totally feel let down and a bit slighted after the first one.

if you feel let down and slighted after an obama term, how do you think you'll feel after a romney/ryan term?  remember what we had before obama?

obama said he'd close gitmo and he hasn't.  at least he's on record as saying he would, and he could be held accountable for it.  should the political/security/etc situation change, it could be brought up again.  what do you think the chances are that romney will close it, given that he has never said he would?

obama hasn't accomplished half of what he said he would.  but my bigger fear is romney/ryan being given a chance to accomplish half of what they say they will.  having to choose the lesser evil sucks, but it's a valid choice.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 21, 2012, 05:11:19 pm
I don't think it is asking much of Sweden to guarantee no extradition to a country in which he could face the death penalty.
He has said he would return to Sweden and face the charges if he could get a guarantee from the Swedes that they would not extradite him.
And nobody has said that he shouldn't be held accountable if he did in fact assault these girls.


I don't believe he is in a position to make demands, do you? He is facing charges for rape. He gets no "break".

He has to face the justice system like anybody else. I have no way of knowing if Sweden would extradite him but I doubt it but it is laughable to say he gets to ask for guarantees.. would I get to ask for a guarantee? Of course not. The Swedish justice system cannot made deals with potential criminals before they are even in Sweden. It just doesn't work like that.

I know you look at him as some sort of modern day hero but I would urge you to think about it. Rape is a serious deal and to imply, as you do, that this is all being made up by Sweden seems a little lacking in seriousness. Sweden is not Ecuador, for example, a country which is a banana republic run by a bad excuse for an authoritarian populist who disregards the rule of law.

ANd you say "nobody has said he should not be held accountable".. well how is he going to be held accountable if he does not go back to Sweden and hides in the Embassy of Ecuador?

Honestly, your position is untenable.


This is baloney. He simply is a coward. I have to disagree with many liberals on this guy.  I think there is no chance he would get the death penalty in the US and I also think there is zero chance Sweden would turn him over. He's a coward and likely a rapist. Not exactly the kind of company one should keep.

I also don't know why any American would want to defend a guy who has done great damage to our national security. I guess they don't believe in State secrets or something.  I guess its "romantic" to think of this guy running around trying to take down governments, hacking, etc. but the world is not a Hollywood movie.

I think there is an element wherein people who hate the United States of America's government, even Americans, like to see this guy as some sort of hero or something. It is weird, childish, naive and worrying.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 21, 2012, 06:02:49 pm
Hank Williams Jr. exhibits the mindset of many haters of President Obama.. problem is it is very dangerous. I hope they are doubling down on security for him. I really can't believe these kind of comments have any place in our society: "We?ve got a Muslim president who hates farming, hates the military, hates the U.S. and we hate him!?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 21, 2012, 06:15:02 pm
country musicians who hate black people.

shocking.

country musicians who appeal to people who listen to country music, who hate black people.

even more shocking.

i suprised he didn't add in there,  "and he loves faggots too."
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 21, 2012, 06:18:48 pm

obama said he'd close gitmo and he hasn't.  at least he's on record as saying he would, and he could be held obama hasn't accomplished half of what he said he would.  but my bigger fear is romney/ryan being given a chance to accomplish half of what they say they will.  having to choose the lesser evil sucks, but it's a valid choice.

LOL He hasn't done a damn thing except make us even worse off than ever before.  He "saved' us by passing a horrid bammycare package.  He has been redistributing the wealth, typical libtard "throw someone else's money at a problem and it will be fixed" attitude which NEVER works.  He promised to lower unemployment or he would not run for re-election, we see how big a lie that was.  The man and his cronies were in total control for two years and did nothing worthwhile for this country. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 21, 2012, 06:20:26 pm
country musicians who hate black people.

shocking.

country musicians who appeal to people who listen to country music, who hate black people.

even more shocking.

i suprised he didn't add in there,  "and he loves faggots too."

LOL nice job of non-tolerance and stereotyping there guy, guess you don't practice what you preach.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 21, 2012, 06:22:33 pm
i just hate country music . . . and i got all carried away.  plus i think hank should be run over by a pizza delivery person.  thirty minutes or its free.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 21, 2012, 06:40:28 pm
Isn't part of the problem surrounding the closing of Gitmo, due to the fact that there are no facilities in the US that are willing to hold them?  I recall quite  a clamor being raised on all sides regarding the potential of housing these individuals in their states, etc....
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 21, 2012, 08:59:59 pm

obama said he'd close gitmo and he hasn't.  at least he's on record as saying he would, and he could be held obama hasn't accomplished half of what he said he would.  but my bigger fear is romney/ryan being given a chance to accomplish half of what they say they will.  having to choose the lesser evil sucks, but it's a valid choice.

LOL He hasn't done a damn thing except make us even worse off than ever before.  He "saved' us by passing a horrid bammycare package.  He has been redistributing the wealth, typical libtard "throw someone else's money at a problem and it will be fixed" attitude which NEVER works.  He promised to lower unemployment or he would not run for re-election, we see how big a lie that was.  The man and his cronies were in total control for two years and did nothing worthwhile for this country. 




the two years you speak of, once Ted Kennedy died, the democrats could not block the fillibuster.. the Republicans in the Senate fillibustered 276 times! The previous record for a session had been FORTY. Republicans by the way have really screwed up the country with this insane use of the fillibuster because should they ever win control of the Senate- looking unlikely due to their attempt to cater to the rapist constituency- they are going to get the same treatment....

It is a big myth that President Obama could do whatever he wanted for two years. But don't let the truth stop you from lying ratbastard.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 21, 2012, 09:01:50 pm
Isn't part of the problem surrounding the closing of Gitmo, due to the fact that there are no facilities in the US that are willing to hold them?  I recall quite  a clamor being raised on all sides regarding the potential of housing these individuals in their states, etc....

The problem is that, azaghal's vote notwithstanding, it would have been political suicide to bring those prisoners to the US or release them all... It was a tough situation with no easy answer. Of course the entire blame, once again, falls on the Republicans for getting us in the problem in the first place. as usual.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on August 21, 2012, 09:45:18 pm
Isn't part of the problem surrounding the closing of Gitmo, due to the fact that there are no facilities in the US that are willing to hold them?  I recall quite  a clamor being raised on all sides regarding the potential of housing these individuals in their states, etc....

They keep it offshore so that they can skirt US law.... not that any higher level politician, of either party, follows any US laws anymore anyway.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 21, 2012, 10:19:26 pm
i just hate country music . . . and i got all carried away.  plus i think hank should be run over by a pizza delivery person.  thirty minutes or its free.

LOL! :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 21, 2012, 10:20:12 pm

obama said he'd close gitmo and he hasn't.  at least he's on record as saying he would, and he could be held obama hasn't accomplished half of what he said he would.  but my bigger fear is romney/ryan being given a chance to accomplish half of what they say they will.  having to choose the lesser evil sucks, but it's a valid choice.

LOL He hasn't done a damn thing except make us even worse off than ever before.  He "saved' us by passing a horrid bammycare package.  He has been redistributing the wealth, typical libtard "throw someone else's money at a problem and it will be fixed" attitude which NEVER works.  He promised to lower unemployment or he would not run for re-election, we see how big a lie that was.  The man and his cronies were in total control for two years and did nothing worthwhile for this country. 




the two years you speak of, once Ted Kennedy died, the democrats could not block the fillibuster.. the Republicans in the Senate fillibustered 276 times! The previous record for a session had been FORTY. Republicans by the way have really screwed up the country with this insane use of the fillibuster because should they ever win control of the Senate- looking unlikely due to their attempt to cater to the rapist constituency- they are going to get the same treatment....

It is a big myth that President Obama could do whatever he wanted for two years. But don't let the truth stop you from lying ratbastard.


Always an excuse...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 21, 2012, 10:21:32 pm

obama said he'd close gitmo and he hasn't.  at least he's on record as saying he would, and he could be held obama hasn't accomplished half of what he said he would.  but my bigger fear is romney/ryan being given a chance to accomplish half of what they say they will.  having to choose the lesser evil sucks, but it's a valid choice.

LOL He hasn't done a damn thing except make us even worse off than ever before.  He "saved' us by passing a horrid bammycare package.  He has been redistributing the wealth, typical libtard "throw someone else's money at a problem and it will be fixed" attitude which NEVER works.  He promised to lower unemployment or he would not run for re-election, we see how big a lie that was.  The man and his cronies were in total control for two years and did nothing worthwhile for this country. 




the two years you speak of, once Ted Kennedy died, the democrats could not block the fillibuster.. the Republicans in the Senate fillibustered 276 times! The previous record for a session had been FORTY. Republicans by the way have really screwed up the country with this insane use of the fillibuster because should they ever win control of the Senate- looking unlikely due to their attempt to cater to the rapist constituency- they are going to get the same treatment....

It is a big myth that President Obama could do whatever he wanted for two years. But don't let the truth stop you from lying ratbastard.


Always an excuse...


Yeah, and you know what excuse always is? The same darn one! The Republicans!!!!!!

I notice you don't address the substance of what I wrote.. typical.

LIAR!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 22, 2012, 12:47:26 am
Of course the entire blame, once again, falls on the Republicans for getting us in the problem in the first place. as usual.
This, I can agree with.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 22, 2012, 02:04:24 am

obama said he'd close gitmo and he hasn't.  at least he's on record as saying he would, and he could be held obama hasn't accomplished half of what he said he would.  but my bigger fear is romney/ryan being given a chance to accomplish half of what they say they will.  having to choose the lesser evil sucks, but it's a valid choice.

LOL He hasn't done a damn thing except make us even worse off than ever before.  He "saved' us by passing a horrid bammycare package.  He has been redistributing the wealth, typical libtard "throw someone else's money at a problem and it will be fixed" attitude which NEVER works.  He promised to lower unemployment or he would not run for re-election, we see how big a lie that was.  The man and his cronies were in total control for two years and did nothing worthwhile for this country. 




the two years you speak of, once Ted Kennedy died, the democrats could not block the fillibuster.. the Republicans in the Senate fillibustered 276 times! The previous record for a session had been FORTY. Republicans by the way have really screwed up the country with this insane use of the fillibuster because should they ever win control of the Senate- looking unlikely due to their attempt to cater to the rapist constituency- they are going to get the same treatment....

It is a big myth that President Obama could do whatever he wanted for two years. But don't let the truth stop you from lying ratbastard.


Always an excuse...


Yeah, and you know what excuse always is? The same darn one! The Republicans!!!!!!

I notice you don't address the substance of what I wrote.. typical.

LIAR!

If there had been substance I would have addressed it! :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2012, 02:24:37 am

obama said he'd close gitmo and he hasn't.  at least he's on record as saying he would, and he could be held obama hasn't accomplished half of what he said he would.  but my bigger fear is romney/ryan being given a chance to accomplish half of what they say they will.  having to choose the lesser evil sucks, but it's a valid choice.

LOL He hasn't done a damn thing except make us even worse off than ever before.  He "saved' us by passing a horrid bammycare package.  He has been redistributing the wealth, typical libtard "throw someone else's money at a problem and it will be fixed" attitude which NEVER works.  He promised to lower unemployment or he would not run for re-election, we see how big a lie that was.  The man and his cronies were in total control for two years and did nothing worthwhile for this country. 




the two years you speak of, once Ted Kennedy died, the democrats could not block the fillibuster.. the Republicans in the Senate fillibustered 276 times! The previous record for a session had been FORTY. Republicans by the way have really screwed up the country with this insane use of the fillibuster because should they ever win control of the Senate- looking unlikely due to their attempt to cater to the rapist constituency- they are going to get the same treatment....

It is a big myth that President Obama could do whatever he wanted for two years. But don't let the truth stop you from lying ratbastard.


Always an excuse...


Yeah, and you know what excuse always is? The same darn one! The Republicans!!!!!!

I notice you don't address the substance of what I wrote.. typical.

LIAR!

If there had been substance I would have addressed it! :)
oh i don't know.. i think its pretty substantive that republicans went out of their way to do everything they could to torpedo President Obama's agenda... remember that Obama was elected by a landslide and had majorities in both houses and still, resorting to the filibuster so very often, the republicans basically did not allow him to do what he though was best for the country..or what the people had elected him to do.

you can laugh it off..but the republicans have set the precedent for making the country ungovernable here on out. no laughing matter.. at least that is the way i see it..
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 22, 2012, 04:01:04 am

oh i don't know.. i think its pretty substantive that republicans went out of their way to do everything they could to torpedo President Obama's agenda... remember that Obama was elected by a landslide and had majorities in both houses and still, resorting to the filibuster so very often, the republicans basically did not allow him to do what he though was best for the country..or what the people had elected him to do.

you can laugh it off..but the republicans have set the precedent for making the country ungovernable here on out. no laughing matter.. at least that is the way i see it..

Welcome to politics in the USA as it has been since day one.  There is absolutely nothing new about one party pushing as hard as they can to have their win every possible vote and to minimize the results of vote they cannot win.  Both sides have been playing that game forever.  Neither the reds nor the blues have a corner on that market.  Spin it all you want, both sides play that game and have been.

Had Barry spent as much time on the real issues in this country as he did trying to make a name for himself as a saviour by passing that health care crap, we would be a lot better off.  He and his cronies got that passed.  They could have done the same with meaningful legislation had they chosen to address those issues as a priority rather than shoving that socialist program down our throats.


On a side note, I am not close to one of those right wing nut job "America love it or leave it types" but it kicks ass that we can sit here and openly discuss these issues.  In many countries, at least one of would be in jail for expressing such opinions.  So no matter how much we agree or disagree on any particular issue, I sure as hell am glad that I live in a place where all of us can have our say openly and freely...  (Even Walky, LOL)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 22, 2012, 04:03:39 am
http://jacklinks.promo.eprize.com/meathead/:b=firefox14/?affiliate_id=Email
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 22, 2012, 09:27:04 am
You too are fucking nuts for bickering that early in the morning.


With that said, sure the Republicans tried to get in the way of Obama's agenda but he should have realized they would do that from the getgo rather than try to play nice for the first six months of 2009. If he would have come out swinging rather than try to cut deals with the Republicans, things might be different right now.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2012, 09:46:26 am
You too are fucking nuts for bickering that early in the morning.


With that said, sure the Republicans tried to get in the way of Obama's agenda but he should have realized they would do that from the getgo rather than try to play nice for the first six months of 2009. If he would have come out swinging rather than try to cut deals with the Republicans, things might be different right now.


OK i'm back up again and ready to go.  ;D

The above is true. Unfortunately running on the hope and change, hug across the aisle, and there are no red states and blue states lets all kumbaya meant it was hard to turn into "I'm going to ram these things down your throats and I don't care what you think.."

Obviously the President has made mistakes.. The biggest is that he's just not been an effective salesman for his health care reform or much else. Just not a great communicator with the American people.. I mean I love him but he doesn't have to convince me.... The second biggest is that he didn't really create an effective jobs program.

But none of that makes the prospect of a Republican win in November any more palatable...and the fact remains that under his administration we got our man (Bin Laden) and the affordable health care act is the law of the land with a nice validation by the Supreme Court.. that ain't nothing.. certainly more than you can say for former president George W. Bush.

In any case, we are where we are.. we can't go back in time and get Hillary Clinton elected. We have what we have and if President Obama is defeated in November things are going to go backwards muy rapido.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2012, 11:40:06 am
wouldn't it be great if a hurricane took out the entire Republican National Convention!


oh one can dream...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 22, 2012, 11:48:01 am
yes . . . mass destruction and loss of life and million upon millions in property damage is awesome, because you don't like something.

ah, america.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2012, 11:50:01 am
yes . . . mass destruction and loss of life and million upon millions in property damage is awesome, because you don't like something.

ah, america.

oh shut up you country music hater..
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 22, 2012, 12:01:13 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfxhDz1JbuA
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2012, 12:02:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V605o5hhEJo&feature=related
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 22, 2012, 12:09:59 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZvpHwoQfqk&feature=related

now . . . this thread is going somewhere.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 22, 2012, 12:20:46 pm
Welcome to politics in the USA as it has been since day one.  There is absolutely nothing new about one party pushing as hard as they can to have their win every possible vote and to minimize the results of vote they cannot win.  Both sides have been playing that game forever.  Neither the reds nor the blues have a corner on that market.  Spin it all you want, both sides play that game and have been.

no one has ever played it like the GOP has for the past 4 years.  no one.

"the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." - mitch mcconnell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc).  so the GOP hasn't been focused on job creation, or security, or healthcare reform: their only focus has been "avenging" the embarrassing beating they took in 2008.  the GOP have purposely been holding back on economic recovery because "Obama might get credit for any improvements" (someone said that, can't find it at the moment) and thus increasing his chances of reelection.  

to me, the GOP's behavior over the past 4 years is treasonous and impeachable.  they were elected to govern and serve the public interest but instead they've been blindly opposing the president out of childish spite.  democrats found ways of working with GWB (who had a weak to non-existant mandate from the people).  republicans have been been enable to work with obama (a president who was elected in a landslide).
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2012, 12:28:29 pm
Welcome to politics in the USA as it has been since day one.  There is absolutely nothing new about one party pushing as hard as they can to have their win every possible vote and to minimize the results of vote they cannot win.  Both sides have been playing that game forever.  Neither the reds nor the blues have a corner on that market.  Spin it all you want, both sides play that game and have been.

no one has ever played it like the GOP has for the past 4 years.  no one.

"the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." - mitch mcconnell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc).  so the GOP hasn't been focused on job creation, or security, or healthcare reform: their only focus has been "avenging" the embarrassing beating they took in 2008.  the GOP have purposely been holding back on economic recovery because "Obama might get credit for any improvements" (someone said that, can't find it at the moment) and thus increasing his chances of reelection.  

to me, the GOP's behavior over the past 4 years is treasonous and impeachable.  they were elected to govern and serve the public interest but instead they've been blindly opposing the president out of childish spite.  democrats found ways of working with GWB (who had a weak to non-existant mandate from the people).  republicans have been been enable to work with obama (a president who was elected in a landslide).

So true.. unfortunately Republicans are just blinded to the reality .. probably due to all their foaming/frothing blocking their line of vision... Look at the guy in Pennsylvania who spoke in public about how great it was they were going to be able to keep people from voting this year to help Romney win Penn....look at all the Republican governors trying to desperately cut down on voting hours! I mean, seriously, don't we already have the lowest voter participation rate of any industrialized country and we want to make it HARDER for people to vote? And we want to do this 77 days before the election??? 


I mean shit when President Obama does something I don't like I call him on it just like anybody but Republicans don't care what it takes to bring down a democratically elected President...

Ratbastard is so cavalier about the 276 filibusters but it basically means the country is ungovernable..that is not good for the United States whether you are a democrat or republican.

sorry walkie.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 22, 2012, 01:24:17 pm
(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Lol+cat+facepalm.+Lol+cat+facepalms+the+bed_8a912e_3829337.jpg)


this should atleast slow you down at work.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2012, 01:36:22 pm
(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Lol+cat+facepalm.+Lol+cat+facepalms+the+bed_8a912e_3829337.jpg)


this should atleast slow you down at work.

i don't work. you couldn't tell?!?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 22, 2012, 01:51:29 pm
then the original picture . . . applies twice.   ;)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 22, 2012, 02:04:29 pm
walkies was trying to link to this image:

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Lol+cat+facepalm.+Lol+cat+facepalms+the+bed_8a912e_3829337.jpg

but funnyjunk doesn't let you link directly to pix.  maybe post the URL of the page where you found it?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 22, 2012, 04:40:27 pm
Civilized people don't fuck bears. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPojMNChY_E)

In case anybody needed to be informed of this.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: shemptiness on August 22, 2012, 08:49:41 pm
I am convinced most ballplayers are using performance enhancing drugs.

It sucks cause every time somebody has a good year you have to consider this..its kind of ruined the game a bit for me.. I'd like it more if they made all that stuff legal and at least you knew everyone competed from the same place.


Colon gets 50 games for testosterone.  (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48758528)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 23, 2012, 12:01:48 am
I am sick as a dog (wonder where that expression came from).  Severe reactions to all the meds I am having to take for this trigeminal neuralgia that just started acting up again.  I'll be back in a few days to post witty retorts to appropriate posts.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 23, 2012, 07:37:18 am
I am convinced most ballplayers are using performance enhancing drugs.

It sucks cause every time somebody has a good year you have to consider this..its kind of ruined the game a bit for me.. I'd like it more if they made all that stuff legal and at least you knew everyone competed from the same place.


Colon gets 50 games for testosterone.  (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48758528)

Wow...they jammed it up his arse didn't they!!!  ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 23, 2012, 08:28:54 am
Much of what I said regarding Assange above but articulated a lot better (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/22/julian-assange-media-contempt)

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 23, 2012, 12:36:24 pm
http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/23/13434926-the-battle-for-aleppo-my-18-days-with-the-syrian-rebels?lite

these photos might be some of the most powerful things i have seen in a long time.  life is precious enough to stop and think, sometimes.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 25, 2012, 10:45:45 am
http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/first-box-office-anti-obama-movie-1/

when the truth is too much for you . . . just lie in journalism. this article claims that some anti obama movie was number 1 at the box offices, then in the article it says it was actually number 3 . . . but if you check the actual box office chart ratings, it was #13. how odd that this shit is allowed. but is does not shock me.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 25, 2012, 01:01:13 pm
please watch the video at the top of this story:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/us/texas-judge-warning/index.html

a republican judge claimed that if obama is elected, he will "hand over amercain sovereignty to the UN" (as if the UN is in the business of taking over countries), people will rise up, and obama will "call in the UN troops" (as if the UN has any troops).  pure lunacy... and someone people aren't running the idiot out of town.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 25, 2012, 01:17:16 pm
http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/first-box-office-anti-obama-movie-1/

when the truth is too much for you . . . just lie in journalism. this article claims that some anti obama movie was number 1 at the box offices, then in the article it says it was actually number 3 . . . but if you check the actual box office chart ratings, it was #13. how odd that this shit is allowed. but is does not shock me.

look at akin, look at that texas judge calling for people to take up arms if obama is reelected, look at what republicans tried to do to voting rights in PA and OH... the GOP is not a party of facts.  it's a party of values.  and when values trump facts, you can say anything you want as long as is serves the values.  hence: truthiness.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 25, 2012, 01:21:57 pm
Just more attempts by Republicans to paint him as "the other" or "not one of us." They view the UN as a foreign entity and of course, the Kenyan socialist Muslim president will have more of an allegiance to them. And now after yesterday, Romney can be implicated in this too.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 25, 2012, 06:02:53 pm
please watch the video at the top of this story:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/us/texas-judge-warning/index.html

a republican judge claimed that if obama is elected, he will "hand over amercain sovereignty to the UN" (as if the UN is in the business of taking over countries), people will rise up, and obama will "call in the UN troops" (as if the UN has any troops).  pure lunacy... and someone people aren't running the idiot out of town.


Actually he said COULD not WILL.  I do not at all agree with his train of thought, however with Bammy nothing is impossible.  If we kicked everyone out of office who said something stupid, EVERYONE in Washington would be out of a job including the anointed one.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 25, 2012, 06:04:50 pm
Just more attempts by Republicans to paint him as "the other" or "not one of us." They view the UN as a foreign entity and of course, the Kenyan socialist Muslim president will have more of an allegiance to them. And now after yesterday, Romney can be implicated in this too.



From even before he was elected, Bammy has been pitting segments of our society against each other.  It has only gotten worse since he got in office.  I agree that this snippet is more of that them against us, but don't think that this is something that belongs to one side alone.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 25, 2012, 06:10:17 pm
http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/first-box-office-anti-obama-movie-1/

when the truth is too much for you . . . just lie in journalism. this article claims that some anti obama movie was number 1 at the box offices, then in the article it says it was actually number 3 . . . but if you check the actual box office chart ratings, it was #13. how odd that this shit is allowed. but is does not shock me.


All people quoting statistics bend them and shape them to fit their needs.  Just like the game they play with budgets.   A program that is funded at $25 billion this year will get budgeted for $100 billion the next year.  Then one side or the other (They both do it) get that dropped to new budget dropped to $80 billion.  Then they will go out and say "look we saved $20 billion."  They didn't save shit.  There still was an increase of $55 billion!  They play that game and the American public falls for it every year!  The only truth about statistics is that 87.4% of people quoting statistics are making them up off the top of their heads.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 25, 2012, 06:12:58 pm
Just more attempts by Republicans to paint him as "the other" or "not one of us." They view the UN as a foreign entity and of course, the Kenyan socialist Muslim president will have more of an allegiance to them. And now after yesterday, Romney can be implicated in this too.


Aside from all the other drivel in your post, the UN is prima faica a foreign entity.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 25, 2012, 06:21:39 pm
Just more attempts by Republicans to paint him as "the other" or "not one of us." They view the UN as a foreign entity and of course, the Kenyan socialist Muslim president will have more of an allegiance to them. And now after yesterday, Romney can be implicated in this too.


Aside from all the other drivel in your post, the UN is prima faica a foreign entity.


wtf is a "faica"???

sounds dirty  :D


i am going to faica u
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 25, 2012, 06:25:58 pm
Just more attempts by Republicans to paint him as "the other" or "not one of us." They view the UN as a foreign entity and of course, the Kenyan socialist Muslim president will have more of an allegiance to them. And now after yesterday, Romney can be implicated in this too.


Aside from all the other drivel in your post, the UN is prima faica a foreign entity.


wtf is a "faica"???

sounds dirty  :D


i am going to faica u


Sorry I am still taking oxycodone for the pain of this neuralgia that is acting up.  It really looked right to me.  And to think I looked at it 4-5 times before I clicked post!  (Excuse my terrible typing for the next day or two please.  I REALLY hate being drugged a LOT, but the alternative of the pain form the TN is 100% unacceptable.)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 25, 2012, 06:29:34 pm
Just more attempts by Republicans to paint him as "the other" or "not one of us." They view the UN as a foreign entity and of course, the Kenyan socialist Muslim president will have more of an allegiance to them. And now after yesterday, Romney can be implicated in this too.


Aside from all the other drivel in your post, the UN is prima faica a foreign entity.


wtf is a "faica"???

sounds dirty  :D


i am going to faica u


Sorry I am still taking oxycodone for the pain of this neuralgia that is acting up.  It really looked right to me.  And to think I looked at it 4-5 times before I clicked post!  (Excuse my terrible typing for the next day or two please.  I REALLY hate being drugged a LOT, but the alternative of the pain form the TN is 100% unacceptable.)

ok i will make exception on being my regular stickler on typos..  ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 25, 2012, 11:37:00 pm
No please don't stop.  I wouldn't!  Besides I do find the results of said typos to be entertaining and sometimes quite humorous... :)

Damn pain is coming back now.  Time to take another of these damn oxy.  Yeah I know some people are taking these for the buzz, but screw that.  I HATE being drugged.  NEVER wish trigeminal neuralgia (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001751/) even on your worst enemy.  This shit sucks. (But I'm still not voting for Bammy!)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 26, 2012, 02:29:41 pm
God do I miss George Carlin. Saw him a few years before he died and he was sharper than ever.. An absolute genius.


"Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KYC45YDU5cQ
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 26, 2012, 10:52:27 pm
has anyone seen this so called documentary about my Bammy?  I have no desire to see it.  Sounds like it is going to a be more than slightly twisted and slanted presentation of pseudo facts mixed with a large amount of opinion all passed off as certainty.  That is what this type of film usually is no matter who makes it and who it is made about.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 26, 2012, 11:46:44 pm
I want to take a few minutes here to make a special post.  All our political BS aside, my son is a Marine.  I served in the Corps form 1977 - 1981.  I have never been as proud of anyone as I was the day I hugged my son on the drill field of Parris Island SC.  Those who have been in this position, others just won't.  Anyway, Daniel will be heading over seas very soon to serve our country for a year.  I know God will keep him safe and he is a smart young man.  Still while I am extremely proud of him, I am totally scared shitless about him being over there.  The young men and women who join the military basically write a check that is payable up to their lives for the entire length of their enlistment.  So as we sit here and debate our particular beliefs, remember that it is because of the courage of these brave souls that we have the freedom to do so.  I have always tried to keep this in mind, but right now it is kind of hitting home a little more than usual.

A big thank you to everyone who chime sin here.  While I may not agree with any particular one of you, I do very much appreciate that you all speak up and say what you have to say.  I is not the Republicans nor the Democrats, the left wing nor the right, the gay, the straight, the black, the white, the tall, the shirt, or any other segment of our society that makes us what we are.  It is the fact that you and I can sit here and openly disagree on anything at all.  I do want every one of you to know that I have absolutely nothing personally against you.  No matter how much we agree or disagree on any/all subjects, I can still consider each of you friends and I do not think any less of you as a human being merely because we disagree.  I only hope that the same feeling can be reflected.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 27, 2012, 04:11:32 am
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS4Cbkf0mWU) is the surgery I am going to have.  Looks like fun, huh?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 27, 2012, 11:40:08 am
i went to my local county fair last night.  had a blast.  fair food is the best.  the people there are the best.      but . . . i would really hate to have a daughter nowadays.  every middle school/freshman high school looking girl there, was dressed like a fucking jail bait whore. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: shemptiness on August 27, 2012, 12:02:56 pm
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/746406/thumbs/r-STORM-ISAAC-HURRICANE-huge.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on August 27, 2012, 12:17:05 pm
Looks like New Orleans is getting fucked again.  :-\
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on August 27, 2012, 12:43:53 pm
I do want every one of you to know that I have absolutely nothing personally against you.  No matter how much we agree or disagree on any/all subjects, I can still consider each of you friends and I do not think any less of you as a human being merely because we disagree.  I only hope that the same feeling can be reflected.

don't worry, RB, these debates are meaningless.

plus you have a much, much bigger shortcoming: you're a flyers fan.  YUCK!  how you can show your face 'round here... ;D

(http://www.peianc.com/sitefiles/Image/Content/Guide/illustrations/no-flyers.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on August 27, 2012, 01:15:40 pm
I do want every one of you to know that I have absolutely nothing personally against you.  No matter how much we agree or disagree on any/all subjects, I can still consider each of you friends and I do not think any less of you as a human being merely because we disagree.  I only hope that the same feeling can be reflected.

don't worry, RB, these debates are meaningless.

plus you have a much, much bigger shortcoming: you're a flyers fan.  YUCK!  how you can show your face 'round here... ;D

(http://www.peianc.com/sitefiles/Image/Content/Guide/illustrations/no-flyers.jpg)

Agreed, this is not real life.  Go in peace, www.930.com/forum .
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 27, 2012, 01:24:57 pm
I have so much respect for the Marines.. I really do..

in fact I respect all troops


but i have to say I get tired of hearing all the time how much I owe our troops.. they get paid and choose FREELY to join... they get paid by my tax dollars to defend me and the rest of us.. if they don't want to they don't have to join... the way people talk about our troops you'd think they were doing it as a free public service or something..


Like I said: I respect a marine big time.. Congratulations Rat Bastard on raising a marine. I'd be proud to have either of my boys be a marine. But I wouldn't expect or see why people should be so grateful to my children, if they were marines, for becoming marines. (Having said that I am pretty much against all war these days.. the odds of having a war one actually needed to fight seemed so small these days.. most wars are manufactured with lies) Presumably you do it because you want to do it and have a calling for it much like anythign else. If you don't you'd get into another line of work. Or you do it because its your only ticket out of a dead end existence. I respect our servicemen and women big time but I don't sit around thinking how grateful I should be to them every waking moment and it gets tiresome to hear that I should. Let me add that it is not a bad career to get into... if you can move up the ladder you can do pretty good for yourself.

Now if you were drafted then its a bit different in my opinion. If someone is drafted and send to fight for me, against his will and he still does it courageously then I'd have to say I really owe that person big time.


Maybe someone can explain to me what I'm missing, without being rude becuase I'm not trying to be rude.. I respect our troops and marines / seals are like the top in my book.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 27, 2012, 01:57:34 pm
i went to my local county fair last night.  had a blast.  fair food is the best.  the people there are the best.      but . . . i would really hate to have a daughter nowadays.  every middle school/freshman high school looking girl there, was dressed like a fucking jail bait whore. 

oh man I wish i'd checked this fair out!


I love that "fucking jail bait whore" look!

having said that I am glad I have two boys...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 27, 2012, 02:40:39 pm
I have so much respect for the Marines.. I really do..

in fact I respect all troops


but i have to say I get tired of hearing all the time how much I owe our troops.. they get paid and choose FREELY to join... they get paid by my tax dollars to defend me and the rest of us.. if they don't want to they don't have to join... the way people talk about our troops you'd think they were doing it as a free public service or something..


Like I said: I respect a marine big time.. Congratulations Rat Bastard on raising a marine. I'd be proud to have either of my boys be a marine. But I wouldn't expect or see why people should be so grateful to my children, if they were marines, for becoming marines. (Having said that I am pretty much against all war these days.. the odds of having a war one actually needed to fight seemed so small these days.. most wars are manufactured with lies) Presumably you do it because you want to do it and have a calling for it much like anythign else. If you don't you'd get into another line of work. Or you do it because its your only ticket out of a dead end existence. I respect our servicemen and women big time but I don't sit around thinking how grateful I should be to them every waking moment and it gets tiresome to hear that I should. Let me add that it is not a bad career to get into... if you can move up the ladder you can do pretty good for yourself.

Now if you were drafted then its a bit different in my opinion. If someone is drafted and send to fight for me, against his will and he still does it courageously then I'd have to say I really owe that person big time.


Maybe someone can explain to me what I'm missing, without being rude becuase I'm not trying to be rude.. I respect our troops and marines / seals are like the top in my book.

I couldn't agree more (and I served 10+ years in the Brit armed forces)
Same with cops and firefighters for that matter

It's a job they all had to APPLY for.

Thank you to all of them but enough of the hero worship already.

I have an issue with 'veterans preference' too. Now, I would look favorably on a veteran when hiring simply because of the work ethic that the military instills. But to have a program that forces people to hire them first unfairly discriminates against those who chose not to serve.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 27, 2012, 05:52:05 pm
I do want every one of you to know that I have absolutely nothing personally against you.  No matter how much we agree or disagree on any/all subjects, I can still consider each of you friends and I do not think any less of you as a human being merely because we disagree.  I only hope that the same feeling can be reflected.

don't worry, RB, these debates are meaningless.

plus you have a much, much bigger shortcoming: you're a flyers fan.  YUCK!  how you can show your face 'round here... ;D

(http://www.peianc.com/sitefiles/Image/Content/Guide/illustrations/no-flyers.jpg)


Now THAT made me smile.  In fact it literally made me LOL.  Anyway yeah I am a Flyers fan, but even more-so I am a hockey fan.  I even donate to Josh's beard-a-thon every year even though it goes to DC area hockey.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 27, 2012, 05:55:39 pm
I have so much respect for the Marines.. I really do..

in fact I respect all troops


but i have to say I get tired of hearing all the time how much I owe our troops.. they get paid and choose FREELY to join... they get paid by my tax dollars to defend me and the rest of us.. if they don't want to they don't have to join... the way people talk about our troops you'd think they were doing it as a free public service or something..


Like I said: I respect a marine big time.. Congratulations Rat Bastard on raising a marine. I'd be proud to have either of my boys be a marine. But I wouldn't expect or see why people should be so grateful to my children, if they were marines, for becoming marines. (Having said that I am pretty much against all war these days.. the odds of having a war one actually needed to fight seemed so small these days.. most wars are manufactured with lies) Presumably you do it because you want to do it and have a calling for it much like anythign else. If you don't you'd get into another line of work. Or you do it because its your only ticket out of a dead end existence. I respect our servicemen and women big time but I don't sit around thinking how grateful I should be to them every waking moment and it gets tiresome to hear that I should. Let me add that it is not a bad career to get into... if you can move up the ladder you can do pretty good for yourself.

Now if you were drafted then its a bit different in my opinion. If someone is drafted and send to fight for me, against his will and he still does it courageously then I'd have to say I really owe that person big time.


Maybe someone can explain to me what I'm missing, without being rude because I'm not trying to be rude.. I respect our troops and marines / seals are like the top in my book.

Hutch I do not mean to be picking nits here but it is Marine not marine.  That word is ALWAYS capitalized.  I understand your point.  At the same time, what they get paid is precious little.  It surely is not worth the fact that they are writing a check that is payable up to and including their lives.  What these men and women do IS what allows us to sit here and be jerk wads to each other then right after go out and grab a brew (or in my case a Mt Dew) together.  So yeah IMHO we do owe them a thank you.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 27, 2012, 05:57:30 pm
I have so much respect for the Marines.. I really do..

in fact I respect all troops


but i have to say I get tired of hearing all the time how much I owe our troops.. they get paid and choose FREELY to join... they get paid by my tax dollars to defend me and the rest of us.. if they don't want to they don't have to join... the way people talk about our troops you'd think they were doing it as a free public service or something..


Like I said: I respect a marine big time.. Congratulations Rat Bastard on raising a marine. I'd be proud to have either of my boys be a marine. But I wouldn't expect or see why people should be so grateful to my children, if they were marines, for becoming marines. (Having said that I am pretty much against all war these days.. the odds of having a war one actually needed to fight seemed so small these days.. most wars are manufactured with lies) Presumably you do it because you want to do it and have a calling for it much like anythign else. If you don't you'd get into another line of work. Or you do it because its your only ticket out of a dead end existence. I respect our servicemen and women big time but I don't sit around thinking how grateful I should be to them every waking moment and it gets tiresome to hear that I should. Let me add that it is not a bad career to get into... if you can move up the ladder you can do pretty good for yourself.

Now if you were drafted then its a bit different in my opinion. If someone is drafted and send to fight for me, against his will and he still does it courageously then I'd have to say I really owe that person big time.


Maybe someone can explain to me what I'm missing, without being rude becuase I'm not trying to be rude.. I respect our troops and marines / seals are like the top in my book.

I couldn't agree more (and I served 10+ years in the Brit armed forces)
Same with cops and firefighters for that matter

It's a job they all had to APPLY for.

Thank you to all of them but enough of the hero worship already.

I have an issue with 'veterans preference' too. Now, I would look favorably on a veteran when hiring simply because of the work ethic that the military instills. But to have a program that forces people to hire them first unfairly discriminates against those who chose not to serve.




I agree deeply about any law that gives any group hiring preference.  ALL decisions for ANY job should be based SOLELY on the ability of the applicants to do the job.  ANY law we pass saying that you can or cannot do otherwise absolutely influences that process.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 27, 2012, 05:59:14 pm
i went to my local county fair last night.  had a blast.  fair food is the best.  the people there are the best.      but . . . i would really hate to have a daughter nowadays.  every middle school/freshman high school looking girl there, was dressed like a fucking jail bait whore. 

oh man I wish i'd checked this fair out!


I love that "fucking jail bait whore" look!

having said that I am glad I have two boys...


Ah the fair...  Elephant ears (funnel cakes) and your girl dressed up as trailer park whores!  LOL should have know TrailerParkWhores.com would be a web site too...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 27, 2012, 06:45:19 pm
I have so much respect for the Marines.. I really do..

in fact I respect all troops


but i have to say I get tired of hearing all the time how much I owe our troops.. they get paid and choose FREELY to join... they get paid by my tax dollars to defend me and the rest of us.. if they don't want to they don't have to join... the way people talk about our troops you'd think they were doing it as a free public service or something..


Like I said: I respect a marine big time.. Congratulations Rat Bastard on raising a marine. I'd be proud to have either of my boys be a marine. But I wouldn't expect or see why people should be so grateful to my children, if they were marines, for becoming marines. (Having said that I am pretty much against all war these days.. the odds of having a war one actually needed to fight seemed so small these days.. most wars are manufactured with lies) Presumably you do it because you want to do it and have a calling for it much like anythign else. If you don't you'd get into another line of work. Or you do it because its your only ticket out of a dead end existence. I respect our servicemen and women big time but I don't sit around thinking how grateful I should be to them every waking moment and it gets tiresome to hear that I should. Let me add that it is not a bad career to get into... if you can move up the ladder you can do pretty good for yourself.

Now if you were drafted then its a bit different in my opinion. If someone is drafted and send to fight for me, against his will and he still does it courageously then I'd have to say I really owe that person big time.


Maybe someone can explain to me what I'm missing, without being rude because I'm not trying to be rude.. I respect our troops and marines / seals are like the top in my book.

Hutch I do not mean to be picking nits here but it is Marine not marine.  That word is ALWAYS capitalized.  I understand your point.  At the same time, what they get paid is precious little.  It surely is not worth the fact that they are writing a check that is payable up to and including their lives.  What these men and women do IS what allows us to sit here and be jerk wads to each other then right after go out and grab a brew (or in my case a Mt Dew) together.  So yeah IMHO we do owe them a thank you.

I have no idea how much troops get paid or what kind of benefits they get but with that rationale any amount they were to get paid would not be enough as life is priceless. At the end of the day it is a job and I think if someone picks a job, even if dangerous, at a specified pay rate then.. well, thank you but you did not have to pick that job. [ rereading this a few seconds after posting and I'm not satisified with it: obviously many many people who pick military service do so out of a desire to serve our country so I am very thankful they want to do that..my brother in law was an officer for a few years and I can't say enough about his backbone]

I'll tell you how much I respect our troops. I would never send them into harms way for no reason and I would never send them in harms way if I wasn't able to provide them the health care they need when they return from battle. I would never make up a war to send troops and I would get them out as quickly as possible. Having said that troops don't just fight wars; their mere existence helps keep you safe by deterring aggressors, etc.

But I think this whole "we must thank the troops every day" is just jingoistic baloney meant to keep the war machine going and eliminate war protests of any sort.

In any case a United States Marine is pretty fuckin' awesome. There is just no argument on that... congratulations.


Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 27, 2012, 06:52:13 pm
speaking of the troops when are we going to have the New York City parade for the Iraq war veterans....its high time...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 27, 2012, 08:03:42 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/22/brian-mulligan-bath-salts-deutsche-bank-executive_n_1822018.html

read some of the comments to the story people left.  "he's rich, he deserved it" is sort of the undertones.  i feel we live in a scary time where some people don't trust or like others who are doing better than them in any way and so easily blame "the wealthy" for their own lackluster lives . . . god knows what they are willing to try.  i think the shift toward action from insanity started to spiral out of control with the whole fox news / drudge report / tea party revolution.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 28, 2012, 09:00:19 am
I have so much respect for the Marines.. I really do..

in fact I respect all troops


but i have to say I get tired of hearing all the time how much I owe our troops.. they get paid and choose FREELY to join... they get paid by my tax dollars to defend me and the rest of us.. if they don't want to they don't have to join... the way people talk about our troops you'd think they were doing it as a free public service or something..


Like I said: I respect a marine big time.. Congratulations Rat Bastard on raising a marine. I'd be proud to have either of my boys be a marine. But I wouldn't expect or see why people should be so grateful to my children, if they were marines, for becoming marines. (Having said that I am pretty much against all war these days.. the odds of having a war one actually needed to fight seemed so small these days.. most wars are manufactured with lies) Presumably you do it because you want to do it and have a calling for it much like anythign else. If you don't you'd get into another line of work. Or you do it because its your only ticket out of a dead end existence. I respect our servicemen and women big time but I don't sit around thinking how grateful I should be to them every waking moment and it gets tiresome to hear that I should. Let me add that it is not a bad career to get into... if you can move up the ladder you can do pretty good for yourself.

Now if you were drafted then its a bit different in my opinion. If someone is drafted and send to fight for me, against his will and he still does it courageously then I'd have to say I really owe that person big time.


Maybe someone can explain to me what I'm missing, without being rude because I'm not trying to be rude.. I respect our troops and marines / seals are like the top in my book.

Hutch I do not mean to be picking nits here but it is Marine not marine.  That word is ALWAYS capitalized.  I understand your point.  At the same time, what they get paid is precious little.  It surely is not worth the fact that they are writing a check that is payable up to and including their lives.  What these men and women do IS what allows us to sit here and be jerk wads to each other then right after go out and grab a brew (or in my case a Mt Dew) together.  So yeah IMHO we do owe them a thank you.

I have no idea how much troops get paid or what kind of benefits they get but with that rationale any amount they were to get paid would not be enough as life is priceless. At the end of the day it is a job and I think if someone picks a job, even if dangerous, at a specified pay rate then.. well, thank you but you did not have to pick that job. [ rereading this a few seconds after posting and I'm not satisified with it: obviously many many people who pick military service do so out of a desire to serve our country so I am very thankful they want to do that..my brother in law was an officer for a few years and I can't say enough about his backbone]

I'll tell you how much I respect our troops. I would never send them into harms way for no reason and I would never send them in harms way if I wasn't able to provide them the health care they need when they return from battle. I would never make up a war to send troops and I would get them out as quickly as possible. Having said that troops don't just fight wars; their mere existence helps keep you safe by deterring aggressors, etc.

But I think this whole "we must thank the troops every day" is just jingoistic baloney meant to keep the war machine going and eliminate war protests of any sort.

In any case a United States Marine is pretty fuckin' awesome. There is just no argument on that... congratulations.




My current boss is an ex 20+ year U.S. Marine. Unfortunately he never left. His management skills are that of a boot camp drill seargeant. He barks, yells and belittles constantly. I've tried to remind him on several occasions that shit doesn't fly on civvy street but he can't help himself. For example, last week one of the porters left the windows open in a Range Rover then it pissed down and flooded the interior of the vehicle. This was his way of dealing with it..."YOU FUCKING MORON....YOU JUST COST ME A THOUSAND DOLLARS....I OUGHT TO RAM MY DICK UP YOUR ARSE.....FUCKING RETARD....FUCK UP LIKE THAT ONE MORE TIME AND YOU'LL END UP FACE DOWN IN THE CANAL OUT BACK....LEARN FUCKING ENGLISH SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I'M TALKING ABOUT" This was in the middle of the repair shop for all to witness. I can't believe someone hasn't reported him yet. I've told him had I wanted to be screamed at all day by a lunatic on a power rush I would've stayed in the armed forces and got myself a full pension.

That's the down side of hiring some ex-Marines...it tends to be Marines too.
Fortunately his screaming goes in one ear and out the other so doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 28, 2012, 04:30:38 pm
My current boss is an ex 20+ year U.S. Marine. Unfortunately he never left. His management skills are that of a boot camp drill seargeant. He barks, yells and belittles constantly. I've tried to remind him on several occasions that shit doesn't fly on civvy street but he can't help himself. For example, last week one of the porters left the windows open in a Range Rover then it pissed down and flooded the interior of the vehicle. This was his way of dealing with it..."YOU FUCKING MORON....YOU JUST COST ME A THOUSAND DOLLARS....I OUGHT TO RAM MY DICK UP YOUR ARSE.....FUCKING RETARD....FUCK UP LIKE THAT ONE MORE TIME AND YOU'LL END UP FACE DOWN IN THE CANAL OUT BACK....LEARN FUCKING ENGLISH SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I'M TALKING ABOUT" This was in the middle of the repair shop for all to witness. I can't believe someone hasn't reported him yet. I've told him had I wanted to be screamed at all day by a lunatic on a power rush I would've stayed in the armed forces and got myself a full pension.

That's the down side of hiring some ex-Marines...it tends to be Marines too.
Fortunately his screaming goes in one ear and out the other so doesn't bother me.

Again not to be nit picking but....


1) The Marine Corps has Drill Instructors, not Drill Sergeants.
2) No such thing as an ex-Marine, seriously there isn't.  :)
3) unfortunately we have superiors who went to the Atilla the Hun leadership school in all walks of life.  In this case it was merely exacerbated by the time in the Corps (IMHO).

4) (Almost forgot) GO FLYERS!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 28, 2012, 04:51:25 pm
My current boss is an ex 20+ year U.S. Marine. Unfortunately he never left. His management skills are that of a boot camp drill seargeant. He barks, yells and belittles constantly. I've tried to remind him on several occasions that shit doesn't fly on civvy street but he can't help himself. For example, last week one of the porters left the windows open in a Range Rover then it pissed down and flooded the interior of the vehicle. This was his way of dealing with it..."YOU FUCKING MORON....YOU JUST COST ME A THOUSAND DOLLARS....I OUGHT TO RAM MY DICK UP YOUR ARSE.....FUCKING RETARD....FUCK UP LIKE THAT ONE MORE TIME AND YOU'LL END UP FACE DOWN IN THE CANAL OUT BACK....LEARN FUCKING ENGLISH SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I'M TALKING ABOUT" This was in the middle of the repair shop for all to witness. I can't believe someone hasn't reported him yet. I've told him had I wanted to be screamed at all day by a lunatic on a power rush I would've stayed in the armed forces and got myself a full pension.

That's the down side of hiring some ex-Marines...it tends to be Marines too.
Fortunately his screaming goes in one ear and out the other so doesn't bother me.

Again not to be nit picking but....


1) The Marine Corps has Drill Instructors, not Drill Sergeants.
2) No such thing as an ex-Marine, seriously there isn't.  :)
3) unfortunately we have superiors who went to the Atilla the Hun leadership school in all walks of life.  In this case it was merely exacerbated by the time in the Corps (IMHO).

4) (Almost forgot) GO FLYERS!


Not to be nit-picking but......

Once you hand in your uniform and id card...YOU'RE AN EX-MARINE...Seriously, get over yourselves.

Why don't Marines ever stand down. Not even for 15 minutes?
It takes too long to re-train them!!
 :P
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 28, 2012, 06:47:21 pm
My current boss is an ex 20+ year U.S. Marine. Unfortunately he never left. His management skills are that of a boot camp drill seargeant. He barks, yells and belittles constantly. I've tried to remind him on several occasions that shit doesn't fly on civvy street but he can't help himself. For example, last week one of the porters left the windows open in a Range Rover then it pissed down and flooded the interior of the vehicle. This was his way of dealing with it..."YOU FUCKING MORON....YOU JUST COST ME A THOUSAND DOLLARS....I OUGHT TO RAM MY DICK UP YOUR ARSE.....FUCKING RETARD....FUCK UP LIKE THAT ONE MORE TIME AND YOU'LL END UP FACE DOWN IN THE CANAL OUT BACK....LEARN FUCKING ENGLISH SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I'M TALKING ABOUT" This was in the middle of the repair shop for all to witness. I can't believe someone hasn't reported him yet. I've told him had I wanted to be screamed at all day by a lunatic on a power rush I would've stayed in the armed forces and got myself a full pension.

That's the down side of hiring some ex-Marines...it tends to be Marines too.
Fortunately his screaming goes in one ear and out the other so doesn't bother me.

Again not to be nit picking but....


1) The Marine Corps has Drill Instructors, not Drill Sergeants.
2) No such thing as an ex-Marine, seriously there isn't.  :)
3) unfortunately we have superiors who went to the Atilla the Hun leadership school in all walks of life.  In this case it was merely exacerbated by the time in the Corps (IMHO).

4) (Almost forgot) GO FLYERS!


Not to be nit-picking but......

Once you hand in your uniform and id card...YOU'RE AN EX-MARINE...Seriously, get over yourselves.

Why don't Marines ever stand down. Not even for 15 minutes?
It takes too long to re-train them!!
 :P


You miss the point.  There are things you are taught in the Corps that never EVER leave you.  Its one of those "you wouldn't understand" things.


How do you tell a level headed Marine?
He can spit tobacco out of both corners of his mouth at the same time.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 29, 2012, 08:53:55 am
My current boss is an ex 20+ year U.S. Marine. Unfortunately he never left. His management skills are that of a boot camp drill seargeant. He barks, yells and belittles constantly. I've tried to remind him on several occasions that shit doesn't fly on civvy street but he can't help himself. For example, last week one of the porters left the windows open in a Range Rover then it pissed down and flooded the interior of the vehicle. This was his way of dealing with it..."YOU FUCKING MORON....YOU JUST COST ME A THOUSAND DOLLARS....I OUGHT TO RAM MY DICK UP YOUR ARSE.....FUCKING RETARD....FUCK UP LIKE THAT ONE MORE TIME AND YOU'LL END UP FACE DOWN IN THE CANAL OUT BACK....LEARN FUCKING ENGLISH SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I'M TALKING ABOUT" This was in the middle of the repair shop for all to witness. I can't believe someone hasn't reported him yet. I've told him had I wanted to be screamed at all day by a lunatic on a power rush I would've stayed in the armed forces and got myself a full pension.

That's the down side of hiring some ex-Marines...it tends to be Marines too.
Fortunately his screaming goes in one ear and out the other so doesn't bother me.

Again not to be nit picking but....


1) The Marine Corps has Drill Instructors, not Drill Sergeants.
2) No such thing as an ex-Marine, seriously there isn't.  :)
3) unfortunately we have superiors who went to the Atilla the Hun leadership school in all walks of life.  In this case it was merely exacerbated by the time in the Corps (IMHO).

4) (Almost forgot) GO FLYERS!


Not to be nit-picking but......

Once you hand in your uniform and id card...YOU'RE AN EX-MARINE...Seriously, get over yourselves.

Why don't Marines ever stand down. Not even for 15 minutes?
It takes too long to re-train them!!
 :P


You miss the point.  There are things you are taught in the Corps that never EVER leave you.  Its one of those "you wouldn't understand" things.


How do you tell a level headed Marine?
He can spit tobacco out of both corners of his mouth at the same time.



It's not just the jar heads (bootnecks if you're a Brit Marine) that teaches  you things that never EVER leave you. So yes I do understand completely. You could say 'once a *fill in preferred branch of military here* always a *preferred branch of military*. That is not exclusive to you lot. We just have the capability to move on and not relive the glory days constantly.

Why do marines march in front of sailors?

Cause they love seamen in the rear ...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Geoff Leppard on August 29, 2012, 11:18:15 am
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201209_radar.html
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 29, 2012, 11:30:32 am
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201209_radar.html


oh  shit.

I am going to be so pissed if this fucking Isaac does anything to New Orleans.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 29, 2012, 12:52:03 pm
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201209_radar.html


oh  shit.

I am going to be so pissed if this fucking Isaac does anything to New Orleans.

Not sure why...if you build a major coastal city on land below sea level you deserve everything you get really. (human tragedy not included of course. Just making a point)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 29, 2012, 08:31:07 pm
My current boss is an ex 20+ year U.S. Marine. Unfortunately he never left. His management skills are that of a boot camp drill seargeant. He barks, yells and belittles constantly. I've tried to remind him on several occasions that shit doesn't fly on civvy street but he can't help himself. For example, last week one of the porters left the windows open in a Range Rover then it pissed down and flooded the interior of the vehicle. This was his way of dealing with it..."YOU FUCKING MORON....YOU JUST COST ME A THOUSAND DOLLARS....I OUGHT TO RAM MY DICK UP YOUR ARSE.....FUCKING RETARD....FUCK UP LIKE THAT ONE MORE TIME AND YOU'LL END UP FACE DOWN IN THE CANAL OUT BACK....LEARN FUCKING ENGLISH SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I'M TALKING ABOUT" This was in the middle of the repair shop for all to witness. I can't believe someone hasn't reported him yet. I've told him had I wanted to be screamed at all day by a lunatic on a power rush I would've stayed in the armed forces and got myself a full pension.

That's the down side of hiring some ex-Marines...it tends to be Marines too.
Fortunately his screaming goes in one ear and out the other so doesn't bother me.

Again not to be nit picking but....


1) The Marine Corps has Drill Instructors, not Drill Sergeants.
2) No such thing as an ex-Marine, seriously there isn't.  :)
3) unfortunately we have superiors who went to the Atilla the Hun leadership school in all walks of life.  In this case it was merely exacerbated by the time in the Corps (IMHO).

4) (Almost forgot) GO FLYERS!


Not to be nit-picking but......

Once you hand in your uniform and id card...YOU'RE AN EX-MARINE...Seriously, get over yourselves.

Why don't Marines ever stand down. Not even for 15 minutes?
It takes too long to re-train them!!
 :P


You miss the point.  There are things you are taught in the Corps that never EVER leave you.  Its one of those "you wouldn't understand" things.


How do you tell a level headed Marine?
He can spit tobacco out of both corners of his mouth at the same time.



It's not just the jar heads (bootnecks if you're a Brit Marine) that teaches  you things that never EVER leave you. So yes I do understand completely. You could say 'once a *fill in preferred branch of military here* always a *preferred branch of military*. That is not exclusive to you lot. We just have the capability to move on and not relive the glory days constantly.

Why do marines march in front of sailors?

Cause they love seamen in the rear ...


"Marines" and yes it is different.  Its OK if you do not accept that though.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 30, 2012, 07:36:49 am
My current boss is an ex 20+ year U.S. Marine. Unfortunately he never left. His management skills are that of a boot camp drill seargeant. He barks, yells and belittles constantly. I've tried to remind him on several occasions that shit doesn't fly on civvy street but he can't help himself. For example, last week one of the porters left the windows open in a Range Rover then it pissed down and flooded the interior of the vehicle. This was his way of dealing with it..."YOU FUCKING MORON....YOU JUST COST ME A THOUSAND DOLLARS....I OUGHT TO RAM MY DICK UP YOUR ARSE.....FUCKING RETARD....FUCK UP LIKE THAT ONE MORE TIME AND YOU'LL END UP FACE DOWN IN THE CANAL OUT BACK....LEARN FUCKING ENGLISH SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THE FUCK I'M TALKING ABOUT" This was in the middle of the repair shop for all to witness. I can't believe someone hasn't reported him yet. I've told him had I wanted to be screamed at all day by a lunatic on a power rush I would've stayed in the armed forces and got myself a full pension.

That's the down side of hiring some ex-Marines...it tends to be Marines too.
Fortunately his screaming goes in one ear and out the other so doesn't bother me.

Again not to be nit picking but....


1) The Marine Corps has Drill Instructors, not Drill Sergeants.
2) No such thing as an ex-Marine, seriously there isn't.  :)
3) unfortunately we have superiors who went to the Atilla the Hun leadership school in all walks of life.  In this case it was merely exacerbated by the time in the Corps (IMHO).

4) (Almost forgot) GO FLYERS!


Not to be nit-picking but......

Once you hand in your uniform and id card...YOU'RE AN EX-MARINE...Seriously, get over yourselves.

Why don't Marines ever stand down. Not even for 15 minutes?
It takes too long to re-train them!!
 :P


You miss the point.  There are things you are taught in the Corps that never EVER leave you.  Its one of those "you wouldn't understand" things.


How do you tell a level headed Marine?
He can spit tobacco out of both corners of his mouth at the same time.



It's not just the jar heads (bootnecks if you're a Brit Marine) that teaches  you things that never EVER leave you. So yes I do understand completely. You could say 'once a *fill in preferred branch of military here* always a *preferred branch of military*. That is not exclusive to you lot. We just have the capability to move on and not relive the glory days constantly.

Why do marines march in front of sailors?

Cause they love seamen in the rear ...


"Marines" and yes it is different.  Its OK if you do not accept that though.

Yeah, okay....of course it is. It must be the frontal lobotomy they give marines during third week of marine boot camp.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on August 30, 2012, 07:29:52 pm

Yeah, okay....of course it is. It must be the frontal lobotomy they give marines during third week of marine boot camp.

As long as you are happy believing that... But just so you don't go around ignorant the word Marine is always capitalized.  It isn't anything that we Marines decided.  Just the rules of grammar.  Next topic! :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on August 31, 2012, 02:54:23 am
I've always liked the color aqua marine.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 31, 2012, 08:28:04 am
Sailors should always listen to the marine forecast before putting out to sea.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 31, 2012, 08:35:48 am
John Bolton is a terrorist supporter and should be in jail. Rand Paul sold out the crazy Libertarians by endorsing Mittens. (http://www.theamericanconservative.com/rand-paul-and-john-bolton-both-dont-want-to-talk-about-national-security/)

Ron Paul is a nutcase, too but at least he is not a complete hypocrite.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on August 31, 2012, 11:05:06 am
CLINT EASTWOOD DELIVERS REMARKS AT THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION

AUGUST 30, 2012


EASTWOOD: Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. Save a little for Mitt.

(APPLAUSE) I know what you are thinking. You are thinking, what?s a movie tradesman doing out here? You know they are all left wingers out there, left of Lenin. At least that is what people think. That is not really the case. There are a lot of conservative people, a lot of moderate people, Republicans, Democrats, in Hollywood. It is just that the conservative people by the nature of the word itself play closer to the vest. They do not go around hot dogging it.

(APPLAUSE)

So -- but they are there, believe me, they are there. I just think, in fact, some of them around town, I saw Jon Voight, a lot of people around.

(APPLAUSE)

Jon?s here, an academy award winner. A terrific guy. These people are all like-minded, like all of us.

So I -- so I?ve got Mr. Obama sitting here. And he?s -- I was going to ask him a couple of questions. But -- you know about -- I remember three and a half years ago, when Mr. Obama won the election. And though I was not a big supporter, I was watching that night when he was having that thing and they were talking about hope and change and they were talking about, yes we can, and it was dark outdoors, and it was nice, and people were lighting candles.

They were saying, I just thought, this was great. Everybody is trying, Oprah was crying.

(LAUGHTER)

EASTWOOD: I was even crying. And then finally -- and I haven?t cried that hard since I found out that there is 23 million unemployed people in this country.

(APPLAUSE)

Now that is something to cry for because that is a disgrace, a national disgrace, and we haven?t done enough, obviously -- this administration hasn?t done enough to cure that. Whenever interest they have is not strong enough, and I think possibly now it may be time for somebody else to come along and solve the problem.

(APPLAUSE)

So, Mr. President, how do you handle promises that you have made when you were running for election, and how do you handle them?

I mean, what do you say to people? Do you just -- you know -- I know -- people were wondering -- you don?t -- handle that OK. Well, I know even people in your own party were very disappointed when you didn?t close Gitmo. And I thought, well closing Gitmo -- why close that, we spent so much money on it. But, I thought maybe as an excuse -- what do you mean shut up?

(LAUGHTER)

OK, I thought maybe it was just because somebody had the stupid idea of trying terrorists in downtown New York City.

(APPLAUSE)

I?ve got to to hand it to you. I have to give credit where credit is due. You did finally overrule that finally. And that?s -- now we are moving onward. I know you were against the war in Iraq, and that?s okay. But you thought the war in Afghanistan was OK. You know, I mean -- you thought that was something worth doing. We didn?t check with the Russians to see how did it -- they did there for 10 years.

(APPLAUSE)

But we did it, and it is something to be thought about, and I think that, when we get to maybe -- I think you?ve mentioned something about having a target date for bringing everybody home. You gave that target date, and I think Mr. Romney asked the only sensible question, you know, he says, ?Why are you giving the date out now? Why don?t you just bring them home tomorrow morning??

(APPLAUSE)

And I thought -- I thought, yeah -- I am not going to shut up, it is my turn.

(LAUGHTER)

So anyway, we?re going to have -- we?re going to have to have a little chat about that. And then, I just wondered, all these promises -- I wondered about when the -- what do you want me to tell Romney? I can?t tell him to do that. I can?t tell him to do that to himself.

(APPLAUSE)

You?re crazy, you?re absolutely crazy. You?re getting as bad as Biden.

(APPLAUSE)

Of course we all now Biden is the intellect of the Democratic party.

(LAUGHTER)

Kind of a grin with a body behind it.

(LAUGHTER)

But I just think that there is so much to be done, and I think that Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan are two guys that can come along. See, I never thought it was a good idea for attorneys to the president, anyway.

(APPLAUSE)

I think attorneys are so busy -- you know they?re always taught to argue everything, and always weight everything -- weigh both sides...

MORE

(INSERT ZACH)

XXX I think attorneys are so busy -- you know they?re always taught to argue everything, always weigh everything, weigh both sides.

EASTWOOD: They are always devil?s advocating this and bifurcating this and bifurcating that. You know all that stuff. But, I think it is maybe time -- what do you think -- for maybe a businessman. How about that?

(APPLAUSE)

A stellar businessman. Quote, unquote, ?a stellar businessman.?

And I think it?s that time. And I think if you just step aside and Mr. Romney can kind of take over. You can maybe still use a plane.

(APPLAUSE)

Though maybe a smaller one. Not that big gas guzzler you are going around to colleges and talking about student loans and stuff like that.

(APPLAUSE)

You are an -- an ecological man. Why would you want to drive that around?

OK, well anyway. All right, I?m sorry. I can?t do that to myself either.

(APPLAUSE)

I would just like to say something, ladies and gentlemen. Something that I think is very important. It is that, you, we -- we own this country.

(APPLAUSE)

We -- we own it. It is not you owning it, and not politicians owning it. Politicians are employees of ours.

(APPLAUSE)

And -- so -- they are just going to come around and beg for votes every few years. It is the same old deal. But I just think it is important that you realize , that you?re the best in the world. Whether you are a Democrat or Republican or whether you?re libertarian or whatever, you are the best. And we should not ever forget that. And when somebody does not do the job, we got to let them go.

(APPLAUSE)

Okay, just remember that. And I?m speaking out for everybody out there. It doesn?t hurt, we don?t have to be

(AUDIENCE MEMBER): (inaudible)

(LAUGHTER)

I do not say that word anymore. Well, maybe one last time.

(LAUGHTER)

We don?t have to be -- what I?m saying, we do not have to be metal (ph) masochists and vote for somebody that we don?t really even want in office just because they seem to be nice guys or maybe not so nice guys, if you look at some of the recent ads going out there, I don?t know.

(APPLAUSE)

But OK. You want to make my day?

(APPLAUSE)

All right. I started, you finish it. Go ahead.

AUDIENCE: Make my day!

EASTWOOD: Thank you. Thank you very much.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 31, 2012, 11:12:14 am
So amazingly stupid on the part of the GOP.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on August 31, 2012, 11:19:14 am
All anyone thinking about Clint participating needed to do was check out his last Oscars performance (I think he was presenting some award and it was awful) to realize he was over the hill and not up for prime time.




Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on August 31, 2012, 11:28:49 am
I am a big Clint Eastwood fan, but this was painful to watch.

I kept thinking about Charlton Heston in Bowling for Columbine.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 31, 2012, 12:48:16 pm
Clint is America's grandad...knows what he's talking about, but just a little dithering in his delivery.

He should've walked on stage, waved his index finger, said "Obama, get off my yard" then walked off.
Genius...absolutely genius!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 31, 2012, 01:54:05 pm
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-5040c913/turbine/sns-rt-barack-obama-chairmt1thewrap54231-20120-002/600)

"this seat's taken"  -  obama's response.  now that was good.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 02, 2012, 10:38:54 am
Good on you, Archbishop. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/02/desmond-tutu-tony-blair-iraq)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 04, 2012, 01:12:48 am
CLINT EASTWOOD DELIVERS REMARKS AT THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION

hope y'all caught jon stewart's take on eastwood's performance: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-basks-in-the-glory-of-clint-eastwoods-awesome-speech-while-tearing-apart-romneys/ (feel free to skip the article and go straight to the video, at the bottom of the text)

his conclusion is one of his best observations ever: "there is a President Obama that only Republicans can see".  classic.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/404006_521617867854855_1571316737_n.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 04, 2012, 01:49:05 pm
Yes we can kill more civilians! (http://globalvoicesonline.org/2012/09/04/yemen-us-drone-strike-kills-civilians/)


So yeah. Lines between the two establishment clowns have almost become blurred beyond recognition.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 05, 2012, 10:38:45 pm
Don't knock Twitter, where else can you watch a bunch of wingnuts argue with a fake twitter account for a fictional TV character.  Yup people were arguing with a fake Will McAvoy account last night...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 06, 2012, 12:02:09 am
Don't knock Twitter, where else can you watch a bunch of wingnuts argue with a fake twitter account for a fictional TV character.  Yup people were arguing with a fake Will McAvoy account last night...

Where else? Why, Facebook! Happens all the time.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 06, 2012, 07:14:11 am
Alright Hutch, even you will have to admit that the forcing in of the revision to include the "undivided Jerusalem" line into the Democratic party platform that Obama specifically ordered be included is offensive. Watch the vote then post if you have not yet already watched it. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/chaos-as-democrats-try-to-put-jerusalem-god-back)
That said, that Clinton performance is more proof of his being the greatest politician of our time.
Guy is a fucking artist.
Elizabeth Warren was awesome, too and deserves more attention. Obama does not deserve her endorsement after the way he did her wrong, IMO.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 06, 2012, 07:32:22 am
Don't knock Twitter, where else can you watch a bunch of wingnuts argue with a fake twitter account for a fictional TV character.  Yup people were arguing with a fake Will McAvoy account last night...

Where else? Why, Facebook! Happens all the time.


Nah Facebook is for Birthday's, Babies, Weather and complaining...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 06, 2012, 08:40:04 am
Alright Hutch, even you will have to admit that the forcing in of the revision to include the "undivided Jerusalem" line into the Democratic party platform that Obama specifically ordered be included is offensive.


yeah I agree. but we all know why...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 06, 2012, 01:18:34 pm
Like basking in the afterglow of a great concert I'm feeling pretty good about Bill Clinton's whipping of the Neanderthal Party (formerly known as "Republicans") last night. SOOOOOOO needed to be done even if it was a bit harsh. :) Interesting fact I picked up: Bill Clinton?s prepared remarks: 3,136 words. Bill Clinton?s remarks as delivered: 5,895 words. The written tel-promptered speech was an afterthought to the actual substantive communication with the American people that took place. I'd love to know what the President really thinks about it all...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 06, 2012, 02:27:31 pm
The concert analogy was pretty spot on. Precisely why I called it a performance.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 06, 2012, 02:29:12 pm
The concert analogy was pretty spot on. Precisely why I called it a performance.



yeah yeah... we know you're in fantasyland over there where Obama and Romney are the same etc etc... go back to the Chomsky board or something!

 :D

of course it was a performance! the democratic party is like a giant corporation and bill clinton is a major shareholder. So what? I like the democratic corporation.

I mean the other corporation is a disgrace.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 06, 2012, 08:59:08 pm
Don't knock Twitter, where else can you watch a bunch of wingnuts argue with a fake twitter account for a fictional TV character.  Yup people were arguing with a fake Will McAvoy account last night...

Where else? Why, Facebook! Happens all the time.


Nah Facebook is for Birthday's, Babies, Weather and complaining...

Obviously, we have a very different circle of 'friends', for lack of a better word. I stopped using it a long time ago but I do miss some very, very good info that I would get on a daily basis, often from the horses mouths... or fingers. Sure, some birthdays, babies, weather and complaining but often an incredible wealth of info, especially music related. Occasionally I'll stop in for a peak but not thrilled with the guts of either Facebook or Twitter and decided to scale back a bit. For either, it's all who you connect up with.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on September 06, 2012, 10:33:03 pm
The concert analogy was pretty spot on. Precisely why I called it a performance.



yeah yeah... we know you're in fantasyland over there where Obama and Romney are the same etc etc... go back to the Chomsky board or something!

 :D

of course it was a performance! the democratic party is like a giant corporation and bill clinton is a major shareholder. So what? I like the democratic corporation.

I mean the other corporation is a disgrace.

Yeah your political party is winning too bad they are exactly like the other political party.  5 trillion additional debt during obama administraton and how much of that borrowed money went to helping the hungry, people with mortgages upside down,  job creation,  national parks?  Obama could be the republican candidate and you would hate him.  People are so niave.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 06, 2012, 11:40:08 pm
Expect your Ron Paul 2016 bumpersticker to arrive any day now... and there is a difference unless you have a strong desire to return to a fictionalized 50s mindset
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 07, 2012, 02:07:24 am
What I greatly fear is the OweMalley 2016 bumper stickers!

Regarding 2012, I don't know who will win but I do know that I certainly won't be constipated because both of our limited choices completely scare the crap out of me!!!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on September 07, 2012, 09:50:08 am
Expect your Ron Paul 2016 bumpersticker to arrive any day now... and there is a difference unless you have a strong desire to return to a fictionalized 50s mindset

Tell me their differences.  I mean not what they say about certain issues becuase we know neither one will do anything about gay marriage or abortion.  I am sure both plan to borrow the country into bankruptcy.  I am sure neither will put money into the national park system.  I am sure neither is going to have a war on poverty.  Neither will stop our war mongering and giving billions away to foreign governments.  None will lower the costs of a college education.  None will actually provide money to help people in trouble with upside down mortgages.   Neither will legalize drugs which would actually cut down on crime.  None would care about our inner cities.  Neither cares about polution.  Obama was going to have them drilling for oil off the coast of maryand.   Neither is going to change the bankruptcy laws back to what they were before Biden let the credit card companies re-write them.   Neither is going to do anything about guns. 

Why support either one?  Unless you are a billionaire they aren't your candidates.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 07, 2012, 09:57:07 am
Expect your Ron Paul 2016 bumpersticker to arrive any day now... and there is a difference unless you have a strong desire to return to a fictionalized 50s mindset

Tell me their differences.  I mean not what they say about certain issues becuase we know neither one will do anything about gay marriage or abortion.  I am sure both plan to borrow the country into bankruptcy.  I am sure neither will put money into the national park system.  I am sure neither is going to have a war on poverty.  Neither will stop our war mongering and giving billions away to foreign governments.  None will lower the costs of a college education.  None will actually provide money to help people in trouble with upside down mortgages.   Neither will legalize drugs which would actually cut down on crime.  None would care about our inner cities.  Neither cares about polution.  Obama was going to have them drilling for oil off the coast of maryand.   Neither is going to change the bankruptcy laws back to what they were before Biden let the credit card companies re-write them.


Why support either one?  Unless you are a billionaire they aren't your candidates.

Why support either one? Well presumably because one believes that one candidate reflects their own personal views more than the other. It is not that complicated really...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 07, 2012, 10:01:03 am
Well that is certainly some twisted logic going on there, sorry I said anything.... 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on September 07, 2012, 10:04:49 am
Expect your Ron Paul 2016 bumpersticker to arrive any day now... and there is a difference unless you have a strong desire to return to a fictionalized 50s mindset

Tell me their differences.  I mean not what they say about certain issues becuase we know neither one will do anything about gay marriage or abortion.  I am sure both plan to borrow the country into bankruptcy.  I am sure neither will put money into the national park system.  I am sure neither is going to have a war on poverty.  Neither will stop our war mongering and giving billions away to foreign governments.  None will lower the costs of a college education.  None will actually provide money to help people in trouble with upside down mortgages.   Neither will legalize drugs which would actually cut down on crime.  None would care about our inner cities.  Neither cares about polution.  Obama was going to have them drilling for oil off the coast of maryand.   Neither is going to change the bankruptcy laws back to what they were before Biden let the credit card companies re-write them.


Why support either one?  Unless you are a billionaire they aren't your candidates.

Why support either one? Well presumably because one believes that one candidate reflects their own personal views more than the other. It is not that complicated really...

well tlel me  how htey are actually supportig your views?  So you are fothe violent american cities with guns everywhere and the a vast population that iis in deep poverty?  The borrowing money to give to foreign countries? 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 07, 2012, 10:20:19 am
Speaking of drilling for oil, I have not yet watched all of Obama's speech but one thing I did hear was the portion on energy which I found a bit disturbing. What the fuck is "clean coal?" There is no such thing. Then there was all the "we have so much natural gas under our feet!" nonsense in which he failed to mention how damaging fracking is.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 07, 2012, 10:51:53 am
that clinton speech was simply masterful.  obama's was good, apparently it resonated with the missus more than it did with me.

What the fuck is "clean coal?"

it's part technology, and part marketing campaign.  the coal industry has developed ways or reducing the impact of burning coal.  but that reduction is way over-stated, ignores CO2 completely, and doesn't touch the environmental impact of extraction and transportation of such an un-dense energy source.

the dems are clearly trying to recapture certain themes and demographics that have traditionally been republican strongholds until now: security, veterans, family values... and energy independence.  there are a lot of states in the "coal belt" that need to hear the words "clean coal" before they'll give the dems a second look.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 07, 2012, 11:05:43 am
that clinton speech was simply masterful.  obama's was good, apparently it resonated with the missus more than it did with me.

What the fuck is "clean coal?"

it's part technology, and part marketing campaign.  the coal industry has developed ways or reducing the impact of burning coal.  but that reduction is way over-stated, ignores CO2 completely, and doesn't touch the environmental impact of extraction and transportation of such an un-dense energy source.

the dems are clearly trying to recapture certain themes and demographics that have traditionally been republican strongholds until now: security, veterans, family values... and energy independence.  there are a lot of states in the "coal belt" that need to hear the words "clean coal" before they'll give the dems a second look.


Azaghal doesn't care about the political realities, only what he wants.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 07, 2012, 11:09:36 am
the President, on purpose, did not want to deliver what would be considered a "masterful" speech. That would just feed into the "this guy delivers good speeches but all they are is good speeches..." narrative.

 that was the case last night.. as weird as it seems there was more to gain from a solid speech than a great one.

it all fell apart this morning when the new job numbers came out...  the President- unbelievably- can win reelection but the job numbers are just not good enough. Of course Romney hasn't said one word about how he would create jobs. ( there is very little the President can do about job numbers but people just can't accept that...)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 07, 2012, 11:21:51 am
the President, on purpose, did not want to deliver what would be considered a "masterful" speech. That would just feed into the "this guy delivers good speeches but all they are is good speeches..." narrative.

 that was the case last night.. as weird as it seems there was more to gain from a solid speech than a great one.

it all fell apart this morning when the new job numbers came out...  the President- unbelievably- can win reelection but the job numbers are just not good enough. Of course Romney hasn't said one word about how he would create jobs. ( there is very little the President can do about job numbers but people just can't accept that...)

That's like saying your team really didn't play to win after they just got spanked. Just a poor excuse for a bad performance. I didn't watch the speech (or Romney's) They're scripted recitals written by a paid ghost writer so completely meaningless if you ask me.

What people should be voting for is action and results, and this President has failed miserably so it's time to give someone else a try. Like him or not, at least Romney has created jobs.

If  you take away the 'Republican' 'Democrat' and vote as an independent. After all. Romney is a Clinton Democrat and Obama a Socialist so the line is very skewed right now.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 07, 2012, 11:31:34 am
the President, on purpose, did not want to deliver what would be considered a "masterful" speech. That would just feed into the "this guy delivers good speeches but all they are is good speeches..." narrative.

 that was the case last night.. as weird as it seems there was more to gain from a solid speech than a great one.

it all fell apart this morning when the new job numbers came out...  the President- unbelievably- can win reelection but the job numbers are just not good enough. Of course Romney hasn't said one word about how he would create jobs. ( there is very little the President can do about job numbers but people just can't accept that...)

That's like saying your team really didn't play to win after they just got spanked. Just a poor excuse for a bad performance. I didn't watch the speech (or Romney's) They're scripted recitals written by a paid ghost writer so completely meaningless if you ask me.


There is no doubt he is playing to win but his chances of winning would lessen with what would be considered a good speech. Soaring oratory, inspiring heights... been there done that.. would not help.. in fact would hurt. I guess one way of putting it is that a competent toned down speech was actually a better speech but that still doesn't make it a great speech.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 07, 2012, 11:53:38 am

What people should be voting for is action and results, and this President has failed miserably so it's time to give someone else a try. Like him or not, at least Romney has created jobs.


Come on Frank! You're better than parroting talking points peddled by the Republicans.

You say he created jobs? How? He refuses to talk about his time at Bain. Bain was a COMPANY which is not the same thing as a COUNTRY. A COMPANY investing money in other COMPANIES that already existed is not really comparable to how the largest economy in the world operates. As President what is he going to do, invest in companies to create jobs, load them with debt, and walk away  with the money? I mean be serious please.

The only real evidence of Romney's ability to create jobs leading the Executive branch of government is his time as Governor of Massachusetts and we know the state ranked 47th in job creation during his tenure. Of course he won't talk about that either. Myth Romney indeed.

Bottom line: we have not heard one word about HOW he will create jobs.

Think of the case of Spain. They had left wing govt. the economy tanked.. they lost millions of jobs.. they threw the left out and brought in the right. They keep losing jobs just the same.

I guess your argument boils down to: President Obama has failed so give this other guy a chance regardless. The only problem with this is that President Obama hasn't failed as much as he hasn't succeeded to the degree we wish. It will be up to the American people to determine how it feels about the President's track record vs the challenger's promises.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on September 07, 2012, 12:20:43 pm
I can not wait until December.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 07, 2012, 12:22:51 pm
I can not wait until December.

u mean november?

me 2
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on September 07, 2012, 12:27:47 pm
OK, November right after the election.

I was giving it a few weeks after so that the losing side will chill out a little bit.

Election talk and "my party is so good, yours sucks" talk gets really old.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 07, 2012, 12:33:27 pm
OK, November right after the election.

I was giving it a few weeks after so that the losing side will chill out a little bit.

Election talk and "my party is so good, yours sucks" talk gets really old.
agreed
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 07, 2012, 12:34:15 pm
Watching Spin Magazine rag on about last night's VMA is quite amusing... Pot meet Kettle
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 07, 2012, 03:02:08 pm

What people should be voting for is action and results, and this President has failed miserably so it's time to give someone else a try. Like him or not, at least Romney has created jobs.


Come on Frank! You're better than parroting talking points peddled by the Republicans.

You say he created jobs? How? He refuses to talk about his time at Bain. Bain was a COMPANY which is not the same thing as a COUNTRY. A COMPANY investing money in other COMPANIES that already existed is not really comparable to how the largest economy in the world operates. As President what is he going to do, invest in companies to create jobs, load them with debt, and walk away  with the money? I mean be serious please.

The only real evidence of Romney's ability to create jobs leading the Executive branch of government is his time as Governor of Massachusetts and we know the state ranked 47th in job creation during his tenure. Of course he won't talk about that either. Myth Romney indeed.

Bottom line: we have not heard one word about HOW he will create jobs.

Think of the case of Spain. They had left wing govt. the economy tanked.. they lost millions of jobs.. they threw the left out and brought in the right. They keep losing jobs just the same.

I guess your argument boils down to: President Obama has failed so give this other guy a chance regardless. The only problem with this is that President Obama hasn't failed as much as he hasn't succeeded to the degree we wish. It will be up to the American people to determine how it feels about the President's track record vs the challenger's promises.

I can assure you any parrotting of the republican is purely coincidental, because I've not listened to a single word of their drivvel either.

Romney has created jobs, met a payroll and more importantly, operated within a budget. Operating within a budget is the biggest difference between running a country and a multi national company. As Barry has shown us, if you're a government and you need more capital just print more moolah!!!

Don't be mistaken, I have never voted Republican before, and a registered Independent who voted Democrat. That is until the Democrats desserted ME! History will show Obama to the worst President in modern history, although Carter may want to hold on to that honor.

I suppose if you only care about yourself and only into the future 5+- years, then Obama isn't a bad option. If you have kids and want what all parents want, to leave the world a better place than you found it for your kids sake, then Obama has got to go.....(that was not a personal dig, just how I see it)

November spawned a monster - btw......

*edit* a better choice of words would've been 'if you only have yourself to worry about' not 'if you only care about yourself'.....
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 07, 2012, 03:09:59 pm

What people should be voting for is action and results, and this President has failed miserably so it's time to give someone else a try. Like him or not, at least Romney has created jobs.


Come on Frank! You're better than parroting talking points peddled by the Republicans.

You say he created jobs? How? He refuses to talk about his time at Bain. Bain was a COMPANY which is not the same thing as a COUNTRY. A COMPANY investing money in other COMPANIES that already existed is not really comparable to how the largest economy in the world operates. As President what is he going to do, invest in companies to create jobs, load them with debt, and walk away  with the money? I mean be serious please.

The only real evidence of Romney's ability to create jobs leading the Executive branch of government is his time as Governor of Massachusetts and we know the state ranked 47th in job creation during his tenure. Of course he won't talk about that either. Myth Romney indeed.

Bottom line: we have not heard one word about HOW he will create jobs.

Think of the case of Spain. They had left wing govt. the economy tanked.. they lost millions of jobs.. they threw the left out and brought in the right. They keep losing jobs just the same.

I guess your argument boils down to: President Obama has failed so give this other guy a chance regardless. The only problem with this is that President Obama hasn't failed as much as he hasn't succeeded to the degree we wish. It will be up to the American people to determine how it feels about the President's track record vs the challenger's promises.

I can assure you any parrotting of the republican is purely coincidental, because I've not listened to a single word of their drivvel either.

Romney has created jobs, met a payroll and more importantly, operated within a budget. Operating within a budget is the biggest difference between running a country and a multi national company. As Barry has shown us, if you're a government and you need more capital just print more moolah!!!

Don't be mistaken, I have never voted Republican before, and a registered Independent who voted Democrat. That is until the Democrats desserted ME! History will show Obama to the worst President in modern history, although Carter may want to hold on to that honor.

I suppose if you only care about yourself and only into the future 5+- years, then Obama isn't a bad option. If you have kids and want what all parents want, to leave the world a better place than you found it for your kids sake, then Obama has got to go.....(that was not a personal dig, just how I see it)

November spawned a monster - btw......

*edit* a better choice of words would've been 'if you only have yourself to worry about' not 'if you only care about yourself'.....


I just don't see your business analogy. Government is not business. In down times government borrows and receipts decline (people make less money and pay fewer taxes). I suppose you don't believe that in a great recession, looking like heading to a depression, government needs to offset weakness in aggregate demand. As far as meeting payroll etc. I believe the government by definition always does. You may not agree with borrowing to do so but that is what they do and they do it to meet payroll and it is part of the government's budget.

As far as having only myself to worry about that is not applicable. I have two very young boys but I don't see how the Republicans lowering taxes for millionaires and  increasing defense spending even beyond what the military requests is going to create any additional opportunity for them! The party that does not believe we are all in together is the Republican Party. They are essentially social darwinists which I think is a very outdated theory.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 07, 2012, 03:23:20 pm

What people should be voting for is action and results, and this President has failed miserably so it's time to give someone else a try. Like him or not, at least Romney has created jobs.


Come on Frank! You're better than parroting talking points peddled by the Republicans.

You say he created jobs? How? He refuses to talk about his time at Bain. Bain was a COMPANY which is not the same thing as a COUNTRY. A COMPANY investing money in other COMPANIES that already existed is not really comparable to how the largest economy in the world operates. As President what is he going to do, invest in companies to create jobs, load them with debt, and walk away  with the money? I mean be serious please.

The only real evidence of Romney's ability to create jobs leading the Executive branch of government is his time as Governor of Massachusetts and we know the state ranked 47th in job creation during his tenure. Of course he won't talk about that either. Myth Romney indeed.

Bottom line: we have not heard one word about HOW he will create jobs.

Think of the case of Spain. They had left wing govt. the economy tanked.. they lost millions of jobs.. they threw the left out and brought in the right. They keep losing jobs just the same.

I guess your argument boils down to: President Obama has failed so give this other guy a chance regardless. The only problem with this is that President Obama hasn't failed as much as he hasn't succeeded to the degree we wish. It will be up to the American people to determine how it feels about the President's track record vs the challenger's promises.

Most of this. And I will add this question.  Are we sure Romney's net job creation number is in the green? Outsourced jobs count as negatives. I would guess that if anything, Romney's tenure at Bain resulted in more job losses than creation.
My beef with Obama is still that he has capitulated on way too many issues and shows no sign of stopping. And whenever I try to see passed this, (really, I want to vote for him and be comfortable in doing so) something new to complain about bubbles up. If only all these capitulations appeased the idiots that he bends over backwards to please.
I mean people are going to call him a socialist regardless of what he does; might as well actually be a socialist. People are going to accuse him of throwing Israel under the bus even if he doubles the aid to Israel tomorrow. Might as well at least pretend to be an honest broker between them and the Palestinians. People are going to say that he cares too much about the environment. Might as well mention the ills of fracking and try to get a ban passed. Guess what I am saying is that all these supposed compromises are for nothing. If anything, they make him look weak.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 07, 2012, 03:29:31 pm
Also Frank, you seem to be really concerned with the deficit so let me ask you and please answer this question instead of avoiding it like you have most of my points (sorry friend but its true):

Are you aware that most of the deficit accruing -even today- is due to the Bush tax cuts which Republicans refuse to repeal?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 07, 2012, 03:33:41 pm
Don't get me started on the military.

As dangerous rogue nations like China, N. Korea, Syria, Russia and Iran are building up their military firepower, America is basically castrating theirs. These nations only see weakness, so America can only negotiate with them from a position of strength. I wish we didn't have to throw billions at weapons we never intend to use, but that's the world we live in today. It's all about national security. To put it in crass terms....'ya mess with me, I'm gunna mess you wichyoo" America can't even defeat a bunch of peasants living in tents and caves right now. Russia had a submarine happily sailing under the Gulf of Mexico, and what did our government do? They stuck their finger in their ears and sang 'la la la la la'.

It's not only America. Britain has also removed the testicles from it's navy....We're an Island. A nation of sailors, and we don't even have a friggin aircraft carrier in our fleet.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 07, 2012, 03:35:26 pm
Here is a graph that has been widely reproduced. If you are so concerned about the deficit the last person you should want to win this election is Mitt Romney. They have already stated they are going to double down on tax cuts.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cdn.crooksandliars.com/files/uploads/2010/06/cbpp_bush_tax_cuts_deficit_1cef5.jpg&imgrefurl=http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/boehner-lies-about-bush-tax-cuts-and-deficits&h=287&w=447&sz=56&tbnid=IJ_eHvick2uUdM:&tbnh=73&tbnw=114&zoom=1&usg=__QNzZ3asik6ToFBI7wFqHXScGR7s=&docid=o7CA0djxuLlCKM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=OktKULn6A-Tk0QHHooHIDA&sqi=2&ved=0CDQQ9QEwBA&dur=338
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 07, 2012, 03:53:15 pm
Honestly i'm more concerned about who is going to be able to nominate future supreme court justices, that last thing this country needs is an even more conservative minded court who will likely over turn much of the progress made since the 50s.   All we need is the ilk of the Koch Brothers challenging all the way the Supreme Court anything they don't like, so it can be overturned,etc.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 07, 2012, 03:53:56 pm

What people should be voting for is action and results, and this President has failed miserably so it's time to give someone else a try. Like him or not, at least Romney has created jobs.


Come on Frank! You're better than parroting talking points peddled by the Republicans.

You say he created jobs? How? He refuses to talk about his time at Bain. Bain was a COMPANY which is not the same thing as a COUNTRY. A COMPANY investing money in other COMPANIES that already existed is not really comparable to how the largest economy in the world operates. As President what is he going to do, invest in companies to create jobs, load them with debt, and walk away  with the money? I mean be serious please.

The only real evidence of Romney's ability to create jobs leading the Executive branch of government is his time as Governor of Massachusetts and we know the state ranked 47th in job creation during his tenure. Of course he won't talk about that either. Myth Romney indeed.

Bottom line: we have not heard one word about HOW he will create jobs.

Think of the case of Spain. They had left wing govt. the economy tanked.. they lost millions of jobs.. they threw the left out and brought in the right. They keep losing jobs just the same.

I guess your argument boils down to: President Obama has failed so give this other guy a chance regardless. The only problem with this is that President Obama hasn't failed as much as he hasn't succeeded to the degree we wish. It will be up to the American people to determine how it feels about the President's track record vs the challenger's promises.

Most of this. And I will add this question.  Are we sure Romney's net job creation number is in the green? Outsourced jobs count as negatives. I would guess that if anything, Romney's tenure at Bain resulted in more job losses than creation.
My beef with Obama is still that he has capitulated on way too many issues and shows no sign of stopping. And whenever I try to see passed this, (really, I want to vote for him and be comfortable in doing so) something new to complain about bubbles up. If only all these capitulations appeased the idiots that he bends over backwards to please.
I mean people are going to call him a socialist regardless of what he does; might as well actually be a socialist. People are going to accuse him of throwing Israel under the bus even if he doubles the aid to Israel tomorrow. Might as well at least pretend to be an honest broker between them and the Palestinians. People are going to say that he cares too much about the environment. Might as well mention the ills of fracking and try to get a ban passed. Guess what I am saying is that all these supposed compromises are for nothing. If anything, they make him look weak.


He IS a socialist.
He HAS thrown Israel under the bus.
You CAN'T negotiate with the Palestinians. They want the extintion of Israel and they're not budging.
Nothing wrong with caring for the environment, but he can't see the trees for the forest in that regard.
He ONLY compromises after he's lost the debate.

There, straightforward enough replies for you?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 07, 2012, 03:56:36 pm
Unless Frank is one of those so concerned about the deficit but feels its necessary to spend far more than we do on the military and tax cuts for the wealthy.

Also, I can't see how President Obama will ever be remembered as the worst president. Just for taking out Osama Bin Laden alone- and as Commander in Chief he will get the credit in the history books like it or not- he would be placed above many others. A lot will have to do with whether he can win reelection but it is certainly possible he will (betting markets are betting he will defeat Romney), despite the economy, it is not hard to envision a scenario where the US economy strengthens and his legacy is burnished. Health Care Reform would be preserved and fully implemented and would go down in US history as a major accomplishment. In addition, he would have extricated the country out of two long wars, etc. etc. Supposing no terrorist attacks on US soil in the next four years, under this scenario, President Obama would be remembered as one of the greats.

Frank, I really am going to need some better reasons for why President Obama is the worst president in history. If you don't give me any I won't be able to help, and I know it can't be true, thinking you're one of those wackjobs on the right who just plain hate him because of, well you know....
This may well be wishful thinking at this point but it could happen.  ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 07, 2012, 03:58:35 pm

What people should be voting for is action and results, and this President has failed miserably so it's time to give someone else a try. Like him or not, at least Romney has created jobs.


Come on Frank! You're better than parroting talking points peddled by the Republicans.

You say he created jobs? How? He refuses to talk about his time at Bain. Bain was a COMPANY which is not the same thing as a COUNTRY. A COMPANY investing money in other COMPANIES that already existed is not really comparable to how the largest economy in the world operates. As President what is he going to do, invest in companies to create jobs, load them with debt, and walk away  with the money? I mean be serious please.

The only real evidence of Romney's ability to create jobs leading the Executive branch of government is his time as Governor of Massachusetts and we know the state ranked 47th in job creation during his tenure. Of course he won't talk about that either. Myth Romney indeed.

Bottom line: we have not heard one word about HOW he will create jobs.

Think of the case of Spain. They had left wing govt. the economy tanked.. they lost millions of jobs.. they threw the left out and brought in the right. They keep losing jobs just the same.

I guess your argument boils down to: President Obama has failed so give this other guy a chance regardless. The only problem with this is that President Obama hasn't failed as much as he hasn't succeeded to the degree we wish. It will be up to the American people to determine how it feels about the President's track record vs the challenger's promises.

Most of this. And I will add this question.  Are we sure Romney's net job creation number is in the green? Outsourced jobs count as negatives. I would guess that if anything, Romney's tenure at Bain resulted in more job losses than creation.
My beef with Obama is still that he has capitulated on way too many issues and shows no sign of stopping. And whenever I try to see passed this, (really, I want to vote for him and be comfortable in doing so) something new to complain about bubbles up. If only all these capitulations appeased the idiots that he bends over backwards to please.
I mean people are going to call him a socialist regardless of what he does; might as well actually be a socialist. People are going to accuse him of throwing Israel under the bus even if he doubles the aid to Israel tomorrow. Might as well at least pretend to be an honest broker between them and the Palestinians. People are going to say that he cares too much about the environment. Might as well mention the ills of fracking and try to get a ban passed. Guess what I am saying is that all these supposed compromises are for nothing. If anything, they make him look weak.


He IS a socialist.
He HAS thrown Israel under the bus.
You CAN'T negotiate with the Palestinians. They want the extintion of Israel and they're not budging.
Nothing wrong with caring for the environment, but he can't see the trees for the forest in that regard.
He ONLY compromises after he's lost the debate.

There, straightforward enough replies for you?

Sure. Too bad they are complete bullshit and unfounded. Nice job labeling an entire group of people as having the same opinion.
You are the perfect example of those who I was referring to above.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 07, 2012, 03:58:54 pm
Honestly i'm more concerned about who is going to be able to nominate future supreme court justices, that last thing this country needs is an even more conservative minded court who will likely over turn much of the progress made since the 50s.   All we need is the ilk of the Koch Brothers challenging all the way the Supreme Court anything they don't like, so it can be overturned,etc.

This is a great point nobody talks about but it is pretty clear that the next Justice to leave the court will almost surely be one of the members of the more liberal minority. I don't have to tell anyone what a 6-3 majority conservative court would mean.

Now it is probably possible that if the Republicans win the more liberal judges will hold on hoping for 2016 democratic victory but Ginsburg has had health issues...

Chilling actually to think about...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 07, 2012, 04:00:33 pm

What people should be voting for is action and results, and this President has failed miserably so it's time to give someone else a try. Like him or not, at least Romney has created jobs.


Come on Frank! You're better than parroting talking points peddled by the Republicans.

You say he created jobs? How? He refuses to talk about his time at Bain. Bain was a COMPANY which is not the same thing as a COUNTRY. A COMPANY investing money in other COMPANIES that already existed is not really comparable to how the largest economy in the world operates. As President what is he going to do, invest in companies to create jobs, load them with debt, and walk away  with the money? I mean be serious please.

The only real evidence of Romney's ability to create jobs leading the Executive branch of government is his time as Governor of Massachusetts and we know the state ranked 47th in job creation during his tenure. Of course he won't talk about that either. Myth Romney indeed.

Bottom line: we have not heard one word about HOW he will create jobs.

Think of the case of Spain. They had left wing govt. the economy tanked.. they lost millions of jobs.. they threw the left out and brought in the right. They keep losing jobs just the same.

I guess your argument boils down to: President Obama has failed so give this other guy a chance regardless. The only problem with this is that President Obama hasn't failed as much as he hasn't succeeded to the degree we wish. It will be up to the American people to determine how it feels about the President's track record vs the challenger's promises.

Most of this. And I will add this question.  Are we sure Romney's net job creation number is in the green? Outsourced jobs count as negatives. I would guess that if anything, Romney's tenure at Bain resulted in more job losses than creation.
My beef with Obama is still that he has capitulated on way too many issues and shows no sign of stopping. And whenever I try to see passed this, (really, I want to vote for him and be comfortable in doing so) something new to complain about bubbles up. If only all these capitulations appeased the idiots that he bends over backwards to please.
I mean people are going to call him a socialist regardless of what he does; might as well actually be a socialist. People are going to accuse him of throwing Israel under the bus even if he doubles the aid to Israel tomorrow. Might as well at least pretend to be an honest broker between them and the Palestinians. People are going to say that he cares too much about the environment. Might as well mention the ills of fracking and try to get a ban passed. Guess what I am saying is that all these supposed compromises are for nothing. If anything, they make him look weak.


He IS a socialist.
He HAS thrown Israel under the bus.
You CAN'T negotiate with the Palestinians. They want the extintion of Israel and they're not budging.
Nothing wrong with caring for the environment, but he can't see the trees for the forest in that regard.
He ONLY compromises after he's lost the debate.

There, straightforward enough replies for you?


No Frank, I hate to jump in here as I know this is a friendly tete a tete you and Az are having but please provide specific examples. It would help for example if you would tell us what you mean by socialism? It can mean so many different things to different people. Tell us how he threw Israel under the "bus" etc.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on September 08, 2012, 01:11:07 am
Hey folks...  Sorry I have been absent from the conversation for the last several days.  The doc has me on so many meds right now that I am about as close to lost in space as one can get and still be alive.  Right now I have eight different little brown bottles that I pick form several times a day.  I'm not even taking the oxycontin for pain.  That really sets me off.  I'd rather deal with the reduced level of pain form the other meds.  Anyway the date is set for my MVD surgery.  I'll be heading into the hospital (St Mary's in Richmond) on Wednesday and they will drill the hole in my head, open up the dura, and go poking around my brian to get to the nerves and blood vessels that are causing the problem.  I have no idea how long I'll be away, but hopefully I'll be back here soon enjoying the ongoing debates.  I do have to tell y'all that I am scared shitless about this.  It will be the second time I have had someone's hands inside my skull, and spinning that wheel twice is something I would much rather not do.  But hey, maybe if I am lucky this time they will get ALL of the evil spirits out! :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 08, 2012, 01:15:15 am
Wow. That is not an enviable position. Very best to you Rat and hope all goes well and you come out a whole new healthier man.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 08, 2012, 02:48:03 am
good luck, RB.  while they're in there, tell them to take out the voices too ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on September 08, 2012, 02:59:30 am
good luck, RB.  while they're in there, tell them to take out the voices too ;D


Does the noise in my head bother you? :P
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 08, 2012, 09:48:05 am
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Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 08, 2012, 10:12:45 am
yeah good luck RB! get well soon
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 08, 2012, 01:18:16 pm
Mittens is going on Meet the Press with his wife. Does he need her to be there to hold his hand? Does she also wipe his butt? Oh wait. Robots are not in need of butt wipings.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 08, 2012, 03:42:28 pm
I'm basically pro-peace and anti-war these days and the idea of going to war just doesn't fly with me and it even makes me mad to think about it. Going to war is a serious business and shouldn't be taken lightly. I realize certain well financed and connected lobbies will do everything they can to get us into another one shortly- got to keep the war machine financed and justify paying those useless consultants- but I have no interest unless the national security of the United States is directly affected and my definition is strict and narrow (like somebody directly attacking us or about to). Hopefully President Obama will get to complete ending the Afghanistan War in 2014 and we can have a long period of peace and prosperity. I don't think it is a coincidence that the US economy prospered during Bill Clinton's time in office when we had no wars...Invariably we will hear, as we always do, that we must go to war to ensure we don't have to go to war and that freedom isn't free and that fill in the blank is Hitler and all that baloney...Romney, of course, is advised by the neocons who specialize in manufacturing wars out of nothing and will look to do so quickly and take us back into a 2002 mindset. I can never understand why we can't just let Israel take care of itself. They are far far more powerful than Iran and it is insulting to Israel to think that the US has to "protect them" or even "help them."

I have a friend, Jewish, who works for a major US newspaper and writes about defense. He is obsessed with the need to go to war with Iran (in fact I can remember debating about Iran with him in the mid 1990s). Oh of course he talks a lot about the wounded troops in Afghanistan but it is like he can't wait to get into the next war. Drives me crazy. Of course, he never hesitated about the need to go to war with Iraq. The connections between the neocons, the pro-Israel lobby,  and many journalists is worrying. Many American Jewish journalists go back and forth from Israel and have many contacts there. How could they possibly be impartial?

My family on my mother's side is Jewish down the line but I was not raised as such... I love Jewish people and the Jewish religion but I get tired of this we must go to war with Iran business.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 08, 2012, 03:58:44 pm
President Obama is gettin a post-convention bounce


was up 1 or tied in Gallup two days ago and is up 4 today.. was down 2 in Rasmussen and is up 1 today... Favorability is +10 with Gallup now and even -1 with Rasmussen which was -8 as of their last survey.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 12:24:04 pm
I'm glad this is now my exclusive thread to talk to myself.


ANyways Romney is flailing badly.. now "Obamacare" which was so awful has parts that are not so awful..and which he'll keep

http://news.yahoo.com/mitt-romney-not-getting-rid-health-care-reform-234959138.html

Romney may need to shake up his campaign and get focused quickly... although today's polls should show somewhat conclusively if people are discounting the jobs report that came out on Friday.. if they are, and there are signs of that, then Romney is in trouble...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 10, 2012, 03:06:38 pm
I just doubt most people read job reports and/or spend their workdays posting on message boards about politics. We are the odd ones out for better or worse. Many people still watch television nightly from 8 to 11 though and saw how much more on top of things the Democrats were with their convention than the Republicans during theirs.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 10, 2012, 03:28:06 pm
i just pet cats.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 04:32:57 pm
i just pet cats.

walkie this thread is reserved for politics now.. the cat days are over man!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 10, 2012, 04:38:11 pm
oh . . . you are so dead to me.   :P
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 10, 2012, 04:42:05 pm
i just pet cats.

walkie this thread is reserved for politics now.. the cat days are over man!

Not true!!!!!  >:(

At least now we know where that fat fact twisting dog Hutch stands. (See below.)

(http://world-countries.net/files/2012/03/019915c6e2bbed8e279ab3cab4c0260e.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 10, 2012, 05:59:10 pm
i just pet cats.

walkie this thread is reserved for politics now.. the cat days are over man!

(http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/thumbs-up-cat.jpg)

MY thread. More cats.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 10, 2012, 06:16:44 pm
For a couple of the guys in the Just Announced discussion:

(http://www.politifake.org/image/political/1208/just-neutered-the-cat-vik-battaile-republican-democrat-obama-politics-1345936517.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on September 11, 2012, 01:38:20 am
I had my preadmission blood work, chest xray, and ekg today.  They discovered that I am still alive, woo hoo!  Thank you all for the well wishes.  It is kind of a scary thing to have to go through, but like I said before, maybe this time they will get ALL of the evil spirits out.  Besides, you left wing nut job liberal socialists can't get rid of me THAT easily!  BTW, just so you all know, that was said not only in jest, but in total respect for all of you and your individual views.  Kudos to all for coming in here and caring enough to share your views and even more so caring enough to register and vote.  Thank you all very much.  I'll see you again in a week or two.  Thank god it will be without all of these damn meds!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 11, 2012, 04:29:02 pm
Truly amazing chutzpah from Netanyahu but nothing new. If the Prime Minister of Israel genuinely feels Israel needs to attack Iran to defend itself from the possibility that Iran will develop nuclear weapons which it might then use against Israel (knowing full well Israel will annihilate them in 5 nanoseconds), I don't think anyone begrudges them that right. They certainly don't need to ask anyone! Unfortunately he is inserting himself in the middle of the US presidential elections on September 11th and 56 days before voting but I guess that is a coincidence as were his warm comments about candidate Mitt Romney. I guess over 60 years of solid backing for the Israeli state just doesn't buy you much these days. I do think its fair to say we've had Israel's back but hey...

http://news.yahoo.com/u-no-block-israel-iran-netanyahu-161058318.html
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on September 11, 2012, 11:47:51 pm
OK folks this is it.  I am off to bed in a few moments then into the hos[ital tomorrow morning.  I am drinking my last Mt Dew for a while right now.  I'd be telling a lie if I said I was not least a little scared, but I know that I am in the hands of a great doc and that I have many people sending good karma my way.  I don't want to be all mellow dramatic or anything, but if something does happen and my number gets called over all of this I do want to say thanks one last time to everyone here, especially Walky.  You and I don't agree on tings but I really think if we were ever to just sit down and talk face to face we might be surprised on how much we do agree and I know we would much more understand and respect the differences.  Remember man like I told you in an email long ago, no hate...  My final thought for tonight is to thank Josh publicly.  My friend you have given me and my dad so many great times and memories over the last few years as he and I are reuniting.  Never forget that sometimes even the small things you do can deeply touch others.  You are a very good man and my life is much better for being able to count you among my friends.

See y'all in a week or two...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 12, 2012, 08:29:32 am
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Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: imbecile on September 12, 2012, 11:43:30 am
Unless Frank is one of those so concerned about the deficit but feels its necessary to spend far more than we do on the military and tax cuts for the wealthy.

Also, I can't see how President Obama will ever be remembered as the worst president. Just for taking out Osama Bin Laden alone- and as Commander in Chief he will get the credit in the history books like it or not- he would be placed above many others. A lot will have to do with whether he can win reelection but it is certainly possible he will (betting markets are betting he will defeat Romney), despite the economy, it is not hard to envision a scenario where the US economy strengthens and his legacy is burnished. Health Care Reform would be preserved and fully implemented and would go down in US history as a major accomplishment. In addition, he would have extricated the country out of two long wars, etc. etc. Supposing no terrorist attacks on US soil in the next four years, under this scenario, President Obama would be remembered as one of the greats.

Frank, I really am going to need some better reasons for why President Obama is the worst president in history. If you don't give me any I won't be able to help, and I know it can't be true, thinking you're one of those wackjobs on the right who just plain hate him because of, well you know....
This may well be wishful thinking at this point but it could happen.  ;D

Add to this the electrical grid in this country is being completed overhauled and upgraded.  It's the ultimate example of a very expensive project that most people will never notice and will only see the price tag on the administration. 

I remember that east coast blackout a while back, and the one in India recently that knocked out power to 20% of the worlds population.  Electrical grids are quite fragile and quite expensive and ours has gotten a serious facelift lately which should contribute to this administrations legacy, but probably won't.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 13, 2012, 09:55:08 am
 ;D


http://goodnightkeithmoon.com/index.html
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on September 13, 2012, 10:36:15 am
Nice to see somebody put their money where their mouth is. 

Remember Wisconsin?  So do these guys:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/09/07/national-police-union-turns-down-romney/
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: thatguy on September 13, 2012, 01:08:05 pm
My final thought for tonight is to thank Josh publicly.  My friend you have given me and my dad so many great times and memories over the last few years as he and I are reuniting.  Never forget that sometimes even the small things you do can deeply touch others.  You are a very good man and my life is much better for being able to count you among my friends.

See y'all in a week or two...

thank you, sir.  here's hoping for a speedy recovery.  we'll have your stool ready for you when you return.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: thatguy on September 14, 2012, 08:10:29 pm
See y'all in a week or two...


according to the paper plate posted in the club office (our high tech messaging system), ratbastard is out of surgery and doing well.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: wml7 on September 14, 2012, 09:10:51 pm
Good to hear
 ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 15, 2012, 02:02:38 am
See y'all in a week or two...


according to the paper plate posted in the club office (our high tech messaging system), ratbastard is out of surgery and doing well.


good!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on September 16, 2012, 08:38:45 pm
I am home. EXTREMELY weak but ion the mend.  Every part of me is sore, especially the incision site in the back of my head, as well as my back and knees where most of my surgical implants over the years have been.  Go back to the doctor on Friday to get staples and stitches out.  Will know more then.  Funny thing is I had to keep talking him down to weaker and weaker pain killers for the prescription he wanted to write me.  He did comment that everyone else who want something different had wanted stronger.  I was the first ever to make him go milder by quite a dress on the pain killers.  No way in hell I was taking any more oxy or percocet.  Anyway I am back off to sleep for several more hours.  Talk to y'all again in a few days...  (Go Eagles)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on September 17, 2012, 01:00:09 am
Woo hoo! The Rat is back! Very happy you pulled through the operation okay. I, for one, was worried about you.

We many not always see eye to eye on everything but you are one of us and that was enough to get me all concerned. Hope your recovery is fast and smooth and that you are back in action in no time flat.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 17, 2012, 09:31:14 am
My random thought contribution...ALWAYS WEAR A HELMET

On Saturday, my daughter and I went shopping at Giant. We proceeded to participate in some kind of silly treasure hunt game they had set up. At the end, you turned in your game card and they checked it to see if you were the grand prize winner. All the while, my daughter was skipping through the store proclaiming that we were going to be the winners. I tried to explain to her to not get too excited, that only one shopper all day could be the winner.

We checked out, she took the card up, and voila, we were the grand prize winners of $400 in Giant gift cards. Guess I need to take my daughter lottery ticket shopping.

Then a couple hours later, just to prove that life aint too grand, I flipped over my mountain bike handlebars, broke my spare pair of eyeglasses i was wearing, and fractured my rib. Could have been much worse, as I hit the ground head first, but my helmet saved me.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 17, 2012, 10:42:31 am
as long as your glasses & co-pay cost less than $400, you're still in the black (and blue).  uh... congrats?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 17, 2012, 10:46:35 am
sorry to hear that james ford

at least a good lesson for your children on helmets...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 17, 2012, 11:33:07 am
I just love the way Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu goes on all the Sunday news programs talking to us Americans in terms of Football analogies "We don't want them to score a touchdown!"   And lets not forget the classic bit equating Iran's government to the mobs taking over embassies "You don't want THEM to get nuclear weapons, do youuuuu???" This guy is so out there..so beyond what is acceptable and so overplaying his hand that he may just one day wake up to find he's got no clothes on.....
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Yada on September 17, 2012, 11:59:28 am
My random thought contribution...ALWAYS WEAR A HELMET

On Saturday, my daughter and I went shopping at Giant. We proceeded to participate in some kind of silly treasure hunt game they had set up. At the end, you turned in your game card and they checked it to see if you were the grand prize winner. All the while, my daughter was skipping through the store proclaiming that we were going to be the winners. I tried to explain to her to not get too excited, that only one shopper all day could be the winner.

We checked out, she took the card up, and voila, we were the grand prize winners of $400 in Giant gift cards. Guess I need to take my daughter lottery ticket shopping.

Then a couple hours later, just to prove that life aint too grand, I flipped over my mountain bike handlebars, broke my spare pair of eyeglasses i was wearing, and fractured my rib. Could have been much worse, as I hit the ground head first, but my helmet saved me.

Ooof... good luck with the cracked ribs. Cracked two in in Rosaryville St. Park in early August and they took nearly a month to heal.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 18, 2012, 03:51:17 pm
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Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 18, 2012, 04:01:17 pm
that looks like a middle-aged version of Firebutt McGee...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 19, 2012, 01:26:30 pm
God I hope so! Brazilians are hot and the coolest..


http://news.yahoo.com/humans-eventually-look-brazilians-140349518.html
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 19, 2012, 01:36:10 pm
As long as they don't all have Brazilian waxes, I'm ok with that.

Given the proportion of dumb people to smart people who breed, it will probably be a bunch of good looking dumb people. In satin baseball jackets.

God I hope so! Brazilians are hot and the coolest..


http://news.yahoo.com/humans-eventually-look-brazilians-140349518.html
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 22, 2012, 10:29:04 am
Mittens has become a giant Mr. Burns looking tumor on the Republican party's ass. http://electoral-vote.com Last week, the senate totals for each of the parties were flipped and it looked as though the GOP were set to take the Senate. Keep running your mouth Mitt! Maybe the House will flip?

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on September 23, 2012, 06:42:13 pm
so for decades the term "African americans" was used.. now it seems to be "blacks"... is this the case?

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 01, 2012, 10:34:50 pm
$225 minimum for Minibar now? (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/youngandhungry/2012/10/01/minibar-reservations-open-tomorrow/#more-61126) I thought it would stay the same or if anything, would cost less after the expansion.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 01, 2012, 10:50:47 pm
$225 minimum for Minibar now? (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/youngandhungry/2012/10/01/minibar-reservations-open-tomorrow/#more-61126) I thought it would stay the same or if anything, would cost less after the expansion.


people are beyond loaded in this town these days...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 01, 2012, 11:25:48 pm
Yeah, I doubt they will have trouble filling it up for the foreseeable future.
Still kind of sad, though. $150 (price before they expanded) for a meal is still insane but someone making an average wage in this town could feasibly swing it once if he/she really wanted to. $225 totally prices out most people.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 01, 2012, 11:48:52 pm
$225 minimum for Minibar now? (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/youngandhungry/2012/10/01/minibar-reservations-open-tomorrow/#more-61126) I thought it would stay the same or if anything, would cost less after the expansion.


people are beyond loaded in this town these days...

See, this is why certain types of people in DC haven't a fucking clue what it's like for the average person beyond the Beltway.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 02, 2012, 07:44:14 am
$225 minimum for Minibar now? (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/youngandhungry/2012/10/01/minibar-reservations-open-tomorrow/#more-61126) I thought it would stay the same or if anything, would cost less after the expansion.


people are beyond loaded in this town these days...

See, this is why certain types of people in DC haven't a fucking clue what it's like for the average person beyond the Beltway.

oh I agree 100%.. people in the DC area are beyond out of touch..... but there will be a reckoning sometime...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 02, 2012, 08:01:36 am
so for decades the term "African americans" was used.. now it seems to be "blacks"... is this the case?



There was some moron on Fox Soccer over the weekend taking about Terry's racist comments to Anton Ferdinand. He referred to Black English players as "African Americans" HUH???

'African American' is a load of bollocks. As long as I'm 'white' and not 'European American' I will continue to use 'black' not 'African American'...it's all moot anyway because blacks like to use the oh-so-offensive term 'N-word' as a term of endearment to each other.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 02, 2012, 09:23:25 am
so for decades the term "African americans" was used.. now it seems to be "blacks"... is this the case?



There was some moron on Fox Soccer over the weekend taking about Terry's racist comments to Anton Ferdinand. He referred to Black English players as "African Americans" HUH???

'African American' is a load of bollocks. As long as I'm 'white' and not 'European American' I will continue to use 'black' not 'African American'...it's all moot anyway because blacks like to use the oh-so-offensive term 'N-word' as a term of endearment to each other.

Why can't blacks and/or African Americans decide for themselves as to how they prefer to be identified? What business is it of yours as to how they identify each other?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 02, 2012, 09:52:31 am
so for decades the term "African americans" was used.. now it seems to be "blacks"... is this the case?



There was some moron on Fox Soccer over the weekend taking about Terry's racist comments to Anton Ferdinand. He referred to Black English players as "African Americans" HUH???

'African American' is a load of bollocks. As long as I'm 'white' and not 'European American' I will continue to use 'black' not 'African American'...it's all moot anyway because blacks like to use the oh-so-offensive term 'N-word' as a term of endearment to each other.

Why can't blacks and/or African Americans decide for themselves as to how they prefer to be identified? What business is it of yours as to how they identify each other?


That is what I'm asking.. have blacks and/or Africacan Americans decided they want to be referred to as blacks? Anybody know? What does everyone here use?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on October 02, 2012, 11:25:38 am
There was some moron on Fox Soccer over the weekend taking about Terry's racist comments to Anton Ferdinand. He referred to Black English players as "African Americans" HUH???

aren't most black english people of african-american descent (mostly carribean)?

EDIT:  apparently african-american only refers to the USA portion of America, learn something new every day.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 02, 2012, 01:55:13 pm
so for decades the term "African americans" was used.. now it seems to be "blacks"... is this the case?



There was some moron on Fox Soccer over the weekend taking about Terry's racist comments to Anton Ferdinand. He referred to Black English players as "African Americans" HUH???

'African American' is a load of bollocks. As long as I'm 'white' and not 'European American' I will continue to use 'black' not 'African American'...it's all moot anyway because blacks like to use the oh-so-offensive term 'N-word' as a term of endearment to each other.

Why can't blacks and/or African Americans decide for themselves as to how they prefer to be identified? What business is it of yours as to how they identify each other?


That is what I'm asking.. have blacks and/or Africacan Americans decided they want to be referred to as blacks? Anybody know? What does everyone here use?

I think they have .....

This came up in conversation at my workplace recently. It was during a lunch celebrating 'Black History Month' (not African American History Month BTW) The general consencious amongst the black staff was "black" is just fine. African American was seen to be a little silly and overly-pc.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 02, 2012, 02:00:45 pm
so for decades the term "African americans" was used.. now it seems to be "blacks"... is this the case?



There was some moron on Fox Soccer over the weekend taking about Terry's racist comments to Anton Ferdinand. He referred to Black English players as "African Americans" HUH???

'African American' is a load of bollocks. As long as I'm 'white' and not 'European American' I will continue to use 'black' not 'African American'...it's all moot anyway because blacks like to use the oh-so-offensive term 'N-word' as a term of endearment to each other.

Why can't blacks and/or African Americans decide for themselves as to how they prefer to be identified? What business is it of yours as to how they identify each other?


That is what I'm asking.. have blacks and/or Africacan Americans decided they want to be referred to as blacks? Anybody know? What does everyone here use?

I think they have .....

This came up in conversation at my workplace recently. It was during a lunch celebrating 'Black History Month' (not African American History Month BTW) The general consencious amongst the black staff was "black" is just fine. African American was seen to be a little silly and overly-pc.


hmmm..yes that is the sense I'm getting... very strange as using "black" was not pc for a long time...

hispanics I think may also be shifting... the term hispanic is of course retarded as it really means from Spain/Portugal.. anyways I am betting preferred term will one day be Latino which is what it should always have been and was slated to be originally until some bureaucrat in the 1970s went with hispanic for government purposes..

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 02, 2012, 02:29:50 pm
latino comes from the word "latin" so it still applies to Spain/Portugal... and worse yet, it includes france, italy, romania, etc.  so latino is even "more wrong" than hispanic.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: slappy on October 02, 2012, 02:54:21 pm
I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity ... Progressive!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 02, 2012, 03:06:41 pm
latino comes from the word "latin" so it still applies to Spain/Portugal... and worse yet, it includes france, italy, romania, etc.  so latino is even "more wrong" than hispanic.


nonesense... the reason LATINO works is because people from Latin America are called "LATINOAMERICANOS"... since most hispanics oh say 99% are from Latin America the term Latino is much better than hispanic which really refers to the hispanic peninsula...

an overwhelming percentage of hispanics have zero connection to Spain and Portugal other than linguistic

you can be a Latin American whose family is from originally from poland,, lithuania and italy and yet in the US you are termed a "hispanic"

It is totally retarded. Latino makes way more sense.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 02, 2012, 03:07:26 pm
I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity ... Progressive!


that's a lot of nice verbiage but bottom line slappy: do african americans now prefer to be called blacks? yes or no.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 02, 2012, 03:29:55 pm
Why make any kind of racial reference at all?

I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity ... Progressive!


that's a lot of nice verbiage but bottom line slappy: do african americans now prefer to be called blacks? yes or no.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 02, 2012, 03:45:56 pm
Why make any kind of racial reference at all?

I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity ... Progressive!


that's a lot of nice verbiage but bottom line slappy: do african americans now prefer to be called blacks? yes or no.

...or gender reference for that matter eh?

We can all be 'herms'

 ::)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 02, 2012, 03:58:02 pm
Why let the PC 'theys' dictate what one must call any group, providing it's all said with respect? Honestly, I completely detest the whole PC mentality. It's nothing but censorship and brainwashing.

Maybe if you go back far enough in my lineage, you will probably find a few strains from the Caucasus area, but I'm not aware of it. Yet, I must check off (no pun intended) Caucasian when I fill out forms. Big effing deal! I don't care at all. There was a reason for the origin of the word for my category and it's nothing negative. In fact, when speaking of myself, I just say that I'm a European Mutt who happens to also be American. It so easily covers all of the many different European drops of blood that I'm aware of in my lineage. Proud of every single drop and even wish that I knew of more.

Personally, I don't get hung up on any of the different names providing that they are used respectfully. In my eyes, anyone who gets bent out of shape with distinct names like that is, well, just bent.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: slappy on October 02, 2012, 05:01:29 pm
I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity ... Progressive!


that's a lot of nice verbiage but bottom line slappy: do african americans now prefer to be called blacks? yes or no.

No.
'They' actually now prefer Coons. Give it try, you'll love the response.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 02, 2012, 05:07:47 pm
I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity ... Progressive!


that's a lot of nice verbiage but bottom line slappy: do african americans now prefer to be called blacks? yes or no.

No.
'They' actually now prefer Coons. Give it try, you'll love the response.




what an idiotic answer..good lord..

apparently one can't even ask.....


in any case, I'm seeing the term blacks used more and more.. and african americans less and less.. sorry if that reality bothers people.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: wml7 on October 02, 2012, 05:19:32 pm
I can't tell if a few folks are being ironic or just slightly ignorant? Apologies if it's the former and not the latter.

But, y'all do realize there isn't a collective 'They' with black folks just like there isn't for white folks? 'They' don't get together and decide to change things up with the nomenclature.

In reality, all sorts of people (usually with agendas) change the meaning of words/labels. This in turn leads to a change in the way some people want to be identified.

For example, some conservatives have endlessly flagellated the word 'liberal' from it's actual meaning - 'a political ideology that advocates free markets, limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and individual liberties' to 'DERP, COMMUNIST, main-stream-media-employed, derp, unpatriotic, Socialist, government entitled leech, enviro-nitwit!'

How do you upset the set up? Evolve and modify your identity ... Progressive!


that's a lot of nice verbiage but bottom line slappy: do african americans now prefer to be called blacks? yes or no.

No.
'They' actually now prefer Coons. Give it try, you'll love the response.



good lord  :o
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: slappy on October 02, 2012, 05:31:31 pm
If you're going to throw down snarky comments like 'nice verbiage' it would help if you actually read the comment.
I answered it in the first three sentences.
Just like all other races, the majority of Black people don't care.

Seriously how many of you have actually come across more than one person who objected to being called 'black'? (That actually was black.)

What's more ignorant is the assumption that the collective race is lumped together in one thought and desire.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on October 02, 2012, 05:33:56 pm
My kids go to a very racially diverse school.  They don't give a fuck about any of this stuff.  It's awesome to hear them talk about their classmates.  I'll be like "which kid are you talking about?"  And then we go on and on as they try to tell me which kid in their class they are talking about, who I know I've seen but whose name I can't remember.  "Is his skin darker or lighter than so an so, is her hair straight hair, or really curly hair" .  On and on.

Little kids could care less about any of it.  It sucks that grownups are such a bunch of assholes. 

This is just what came to my mind reading this.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 02, 2012, 05:35:57 pm
If you're going to throw down snarky comments like 'nice verbiage' it would help if you actually read the comment.
I answered it in the first three sentences.
Just like all other races, the majority of Black people don't care.

Seriously how many of you have actually come across more than one person who objected to being called 'black'? (That actually was black.)

What's more ignorant is the assumption that the collective race is lumped together in one thought and desire.



I don't think so Slappy.. As a race African Americans all agreed they did not want to be called "niggers." That is a fact.

There is nothing wrong with talking about race and I resent any such implication or the implication I'm an asshole for caring about how African Americans would like to be referred to. Give me a fucking break dude.

For example, I'm a "hispanic" but can't stand the term and can't wait until people use Latino. Sorry if that is a problem for you but I am entitled to my opinion. And yes, little kiddies who don't know much about history can afford to call themselves whatever they want... when you've walked around the block and studied about slavery and discriminatio and racism you might not feel that way.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: slappy on October 02, 2012, 06:10:05 pm

I don't think so Slappy.. As a race African Americans all agreed they did not want to be called "niggers." That is a fact.

There is nothing wrong with talking about race and I resent any such implication or the implication I'm an asshole for caring about how African Americans would like to be referred to. Give me a fucking break dude.

Ok, let's slow down. You are absolutely correct there is nothing wrong with talking about race.
I didn't intend to imply you're an asshole. It is difficult these days to decipher snark or being sarcastic from the serious.

It is NOT a fact that African Americans all agreed they did not want to be called 'niggers'. Just like all white folks didn't agree to not be called a 'cracker', 'honky', 'whitey', or 'Nazi'. There are segments of all populations that admire different labels.

I would say the best way to find out what a person wants to be called is ask them. I've found making friends with all different sorts of people that you learn these things best by engaging and learn.

After becoming friends with a few Brazilians, I know better than to assume everyone from South America is 'Hispanic'. Even in Mexico I would avoid 'Hispanic' after hanging out with folks of Mayan descent.




Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 02, 2012, 06:47:13 pm
This is some straight up BS...

http://wtop.com/46/3063127/Redskins-endorse-Maryland-gambling-measure

blah jobs blah probably getting some sort of kickback blah
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 02, 2012, 10:07:45 pm
Mr. Natural, did you ever consider that maybe you ought to get your anger issues under control rather than constantly expecting everyone else to adjust to your peculiarities? If they use the word Spic, hey, I'll get angry WITH you. Hispanic, Latino, whatever, just deal with it. Yeah, okay, you can get specific with exactitudes but, seriously, is that really worth the stress?

According to the origins of the word Hispanic, and what I know about some far roots of my ancestry, I'm, in part, Hispanic. According to the definition of Latino with it's Latin roots, my deep French roots would consider me a Latina. Hey, cool! But somehow, I suspect that if I went around calling myself Hispanic and Latino, Hutch would blow a gasket. As it is, I wouldn't bother only because it would be too confusing. I'll stick with Euro Mutt but not because it makes life more stress-free for ol' Mr. Natural. Chill out, man. We're all part of the Human Race... except maybe for Kosmo who is from a whole other Funky Mod world of Vinyl.  ;)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on October 02, 2012, 10:38:00 pm
How bout them Redskins!!!!!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 03, 2012, 08:33:40 am
Mr. Natural, did you ever consider that maybe you ought to get your anger issues under control rather than constantly expecting everyone else to adjust to your peculiarities? If they use the word Spic, hey, I'll get angry WITH you. Hispanic, Latino, whatever, just deal with it. Yeah, okay, you can get specific with exactitudes but, seriously, is that really worth the stress?

According to the origins of the word Hispanic, and what I know about some far roots of my ancestry, I'm, in part, Hispanic. According to the definition of Latino with it's Latin roots, my deep French roots would consider me a Latina. Hey, cool! But somehow, I suspect that if I went around calling myself Hispanic and Latino, Hutch would blow a gasket. As it is, I wouldn't bother only because it would be too confusing. I'll stick with Euro Mutt but not because it makes life more stress-free for ol' Mr. Natural. Chill out, man. We're all part of the Human Race... except maybe for Kosmo who is from a whole other Funky Mod world of Vinyl.  ;)

What??
Kosmo??? I"m the one with 10,000 records in the basement.

Now I AM angry.

 ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 03, 2012, 08:52:16 am
Hey Hutch, as a Latino does it make you angry that some people try to argue that Mike Trout deserves the MVP more than Miguel Cabrera, in spite of Miggy leading his team to the playoffs (that which Mike Trout didn't do in spite of having Albert Pujols for a teammate) and being on the cusp of the first triple crown in 45 freaking years?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Bombay Chutney on October 03, 2012, 09:28:19 am
When did they add new parking restrictions in the Black Cat/9:30 residential areas?  There's lots of signage now with restrictions for zone 1-2 permits-only and 7am-midnight time restrictions.  Not every block, but still all over the place.  Pay attention to the signs when you park.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 03, 2012, 09:32:12 am
Fine, i'll stay out of the city and keep my money in the suburbs. See how they like that.

When did they add new parking restrictions in the Black Cat/9:30 residential areas?  There's lots of signage now with restrictions for zone 1-2 permits-only and 7am-midnight time restrictions.  Not every block, but still all over the place.  Pay attention to the signs when you park.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on October 03, 2012, 09:48:41 am
Fine, i'll stay out of the city and keep my money in the suburbs. See how they like that.

When did they add new parking restrictions in the Black Cat/9:30 residential areas?  There's lots of signage now with restrictions for zone 1-2 permits-only and 7am-midnight time restrictions.  Not every block, but still all over the place.  Pay attention to the signs when you park.

I'm sure the residents of this neighborhood, whom the Residential Parking Program benefits, would like that just fine.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 03, 2012, 09:56:30 am
Hey Hutch, as a Latino does it make you angry that some people try to argue that Mike Trout deserves the MVP more than Miguel Cabrera, in spite of Miggy leading his team to the playoffs (that which Mike Trout didn't do in spite of having Albert Pujols for a teammate) and being on the cusp of the first triple crown in 45 freaking years?

No.


Although when you put it that way....

I wonder if it also has something to do with Miguel Cabrera being arrested a few times...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 03, 2012, 09:57:14 am
Guess they'll just have to pay more taxes. No biggie. DC residents looooove playing taxes!

Fine, i'll stay out of the city and keep my money in the suburbs. See how they like that.

When did they add new parking restrictions in the Black Cat/9:30 residential areas?  There's lots of signage now with restrictions for zone 1-2 permits-only and 7am-midnight time restrictions.  Not every block, but still all over the place.  Pay attention to the signs when you park.

I'm sure the residents of this neighborhood, whom the Residential Parking Program benefits, would like that just fine.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 03, 2012, 10:00:28 am
It has become really hard to tell where and when one can park.... its very confusing....all over DC actually.. I was going to park on Georgia Ave before Afghan Whigs but the signs confused me and even after asking a police officer I was unsure so I moved on and lucked out on a spot nearer to the club.


DC seems to get a perverse pleasure in screwing over non-residents.... the metro system is a disgrace with their $1 extra charge for those without the smartrip card.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on October 03, 2012, 10:36:56 am
DC seems to get a perverse pleasure in screwing over non-residents

i will continue to completely tune out any complaints like this until we enact a commuter tax.

more specifically, DC needs to continue to aggressively implement performance parking.  parking on public city streets should be priced to accurately reflect the cost.  this is a good, concise summary:

"Dupont Circle, like most of DC's busy neighborhoods, has far more demand for parking than supply of on-street spaces. Right now, we allocate the limited resource of spaces in one way. The meeting will discuss whether to allocate them in a different way."

http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/14312/fix-all-of-duponts-parking-problems-tonight

EDIT: link to DC performance parking plan for H Street (http://ddot.dc.gov/DC/DDOT/Publication%20Files/On%20Your%20Street/Traffic%20Management/Parking/Performance%20Based%20Parking%20Pilots/HStreetNE_PerformanceBasedParknigImplementationPlan_2012.pdf)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 03, 2012, 10:40:13 am
DC seems to get a perverse pleasure in screwing over non-residents

i will continue to completely tune out any complaints like this until we enact a commuter tax.

more specifically, DC needs to continue to aggressively implement performance parking.  parking on public city streets should be priced to accurately reflect the cost.  this is a good, concise summary:

"Dupont Circle, like most of DC's busy neighborhoods, has far more demand for parking than supply of on-street spaces. Right now, we allocate the limited resource of spaces in one way. The meeting will discuss whether to allocate them in a different way."

http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/14312/fix-all-of-duponts-parking-problems-tonight

http://ddot.dc.gov/DC/DDOT/Publication%20Files/On%20Your%20Street/Traffic%20Management/Parking/Performance%20Based%20Parking%20Pilots/HStreetNE_PerformanceBasedParknigImplementationPlan_2012.pdf


Really? I think non-residents should at least be able to tell where they can park!

Listen I lived in DC for 15 years so  I hear you... I just don't think people shoud be ripped off with things like the paper fare card.. Yeah, lets screw over tourists! That will show them!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 03, 2012, 01:14:09 pm
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Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Geoff Leppard on October 03, 2012, 01:37:46 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/299412_10151265025100761_543214712_n.jpg) (https://www.facebook.com/pages/That-Guy-at-the-930-Club/373749270760)

She's cute!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on October 03, 2012, 01:39:38 pm
http://www.betabrand.com/west-coast-workwear/gray-dress-pant-sweatpants.html
In case itchy wool pants are causing you grief!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 03, 2012, 01:53:43 pm
DC seems to get a perverse pleasure in screwing over non-residents

i will continue to completely tune out any complaints like this until we enact a commuter tax.

more specifically, DC needs to continue to aggressively implement performance parking.  parking on public city streets should be priced to accurately reflect the cost.  this is a good, concise summary:

"Dupont Circle, like most of DC's busy neighborhoods, has far more demand for parking than supply of on-street spaces. Right now, we allocate the limited resource of spaces in one way. The meeting will discuss whether to allocate them in a different way."

http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/14312/fix-all-of-duponts-parking-problems-tonight

http://ddot.dc.gov/DC/DDOT/Publication%20Files/On%20Your%20Street/Traffic%20Management/Parking/Performance%20Based%20Parking%20Pilots/HStreetNE_PerformanceBasedParknigImplementationPlan_2012.pdf


Really? I think non-residents should at least be able to tell where they can park!

Listen I lived in DC for 15 years so  I hear you... I just don't think people shoud be ripped off with things like the paper fare card.. Yeah, lets screw over tourists! That will show them!


what's so confusing? parking seems pretty straightforward to me. every parkable street i've seen has signs that designates hours and limits, zone, and street sweeping. if there's no sign, it's fair game for anyone. if it's meters, the meter calls out the restrictions.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 03, 2012, 02:19:13 pm
DC seems to get a perverse pleasure in screwing over non-residents

i will continue to completely tune out any complaints like this until we enact a commuter tax.

more specifically, DC needs to continue to aggressively implement performance parking.  parking on public city streets should be priced to accurately reflect the cost.  this is a good, concise summary:

"Dupont Circle, like most of DC's busy neighborhoods, has far more demand for parking than supply of on-street spaces. Right now, we allocate the limited resource of spaces in one way. The meeting will discuss whether to allocate them in a different way."

http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/14312/fix-all-of-duponts-parking-problems-tonight

http://ddot.dc.gov/DC/DDOT/Publication%20Files/On%20Your%20Street/Traffic%20Management/Parking/Performance%20Based%20Parking%20Pilots/HStreetNE_PerformanceBasedParknigImplementationPlan_2012.pdf


Really? I think non-residents should at least be able to tell where they can park!

Listen I lived in DC for 15 years so  I hear you... I just don't think people shoud be ripped off with things like the paper fare card.. Yeah, lets screw over tourists! That will show them!


what's so confusing? parking seems pretty straightforward to me. every parkable street i've seen has signs that designates hours and limits, zone, and street sweeping. if there's no sign, it's fair game for anyone. if it's meters, the meter calls out the restrictions.

Many areas- maybe the less Tony areas- don't really have clear parking signs and the meters don't tell you anything.. At least that was the case on Georgia Ave. by the 930. I THINK i would have been ok parking but there wasn't really a way to tell. On top of that there is an army of people out ticketing the second you make a misstep and they sometimes ticket people who are parked LEGALLY.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 04, 2012, 06:30:36 am
It is strange how little attention Miguel Cabrera winning baseball's triple crown has gotten....
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 04, 2012, 08:55:15 am
DC seems to get a perverse pleasure in screwing over non-residents

i will continue to completely tune out any complaints like this until we enact a commuter tax.

more specifically, DC needs to continue to aggressively implement performance parking.  parking on public city streets should be priced to accurately reflect the cost.  this is a good, concise summary:

"Dupont Circle, like most of DC's busy neighborhoods, has far more demand for parking than supply of on-street spaces. Right now, we allocate the limited resource of spaces in one way. The meeting will discuss whether to allocate them in a different way."

http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/14312/fix-all-of-duponts-parking-problems-tonight

http://ddot.dc.gov/DC/DDOT/Publication%20Files/On%20Your%20Street/Traffic%20Management/Parking/Performance%20Based%20Parking%20Pilots/HStreetNE_PerformanceBasedParknigImplementationPlan_2012.pdf


Really? I think non-residents should at least be able to tell where they can park!

Listen I lived in DC for 15 years so  I hear you... I just don't think people shoud be ripped off with things like the paper fare card.. Yeah, lets screw over tourists! That will show them!


Commuter tax in to DC. That's the most retarded suggestion I've heard in a long time.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: imbecile on October 04, 2012, 09:58:18 am
DC seems to get a perverse pleasure in screwing over non-residents

i will continue to completely tune out any complaints like this until we enact a commuter tax.

more specifically, DC needs to continue to aggressively implement performance parking.  parking on public city streets should be priced to accurately reflect the cost.  this is a good, concise summary:

"Dupont Circle, like most of DC's busy neighborhoods, has far more demand for parking than supply of on-street spaces. Right now, we allocate the limited resource of spaces in one way. The meeting will discuss whether to allocate them in a different way."

http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/14312/fix-all-of-duponts-parking-problems-tonight

http://ddot.dc.gov/DC/DDOT/Publication%20Files/On%20Your%20Street/Traffic%20Management/Parking/Performance%20Based%20Parking%20Pilots/HStreetNE_PerformanceBasedParknigImplementationPlan_2012.pdf


Really? I think non-residents should at least be able to tell where they can park!

Listen I lived in DC for 15 years so  I hear you... I just don't think people shoud be ripped off with things like the paper fare card.. Yeah, lets screw over tourists! That will show them!


Commuter tax in to DC. That's the most retarded suggestion I've heard in a long time.


You must not have watched the presidential debate last night. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 04, 2012, 10:07:07 am
First time it's happened since I was five months old!


It is strange how little attention Miguel Cabrera winning baseball's triple crown has gotten....
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 04, 2012, 10:37:46 am
First time it's happened since I was five months old!


It is strange how little attention Miguel Cabrera winning baseball's triple crown has gotten....

FIrst time in my life! and most probably last...

I guess Cabrera is just not a popular player.. if it had been Hamilton or Pujols I think it would have gotten a ton of attention...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 04, 2012, 11:08:55 am
The fact that he plays in Detroit probably doesn't help either.

First time it's happened since I was five months old!


It is strange how little attention Miguel Cabrera winning baseball's triple crown has gotten....

FIrst time in my life! and most probably last...

I guess Cabrera is just not a popular player.. if it had been Hamilton or Pujols I think it would have gotten a ton of attention...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on October 04, 2012, 11:14:45 am
Commuter tax in to DC. That's the most retarded suggestion I've heard in a long time.

http://www.dcfpi.org/what-would-a-commuter-tax-mean-for-dc
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 04, 2012, 11:20:28 am
The fact that he plays in Detroit probably doesn't help either.

First time it's happened since I was five months old!


It is strange how little attention Miguel Cabrera winning baseball's triple crown has gotten....

FIrst time in my life! and most probably last...

I guess Cabrera is just not a popular player.. if it had been Hamilton or Pujols I think it would have gotten a ton of attention...

case and point. verlander got the MVP last season as a pitcher, and it was essentially the same deal. detroit just aint sexy, and east coast bias from ESPN doesn't help.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: thatguy on October 04, 2012, 03:57:59 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/299412_10151265025100761_543214712_n.jpg) (https://www.facebook.com/pages/That-Guy-at-the-930-Club/373749270760)

She's cute!

if you think she's cute in that picture, you should see her now.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 04, 2012, 04:36:58 pm
lol

i hear she's a real bitch - ruins people's weekends
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Geoff Leppard on October 04, 2012, 05:07:30 pm
lol

i hear she's a real bitch - ruins people's weekends

I bet all it takes is a cold stare, and people just melt into a puddle.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: slappy on October 04, 2012, 05:12:23 pm
Clearly it's a young Samantha Brown.

(http://images.zap2it.com/images/tv-EP00395559/girl-meets-hawaii-samantha-brown-2.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 04, 2012, 06:42:40 pm
who knew pittsburg gave a shit about baseball? not me.

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2012/10/01/Media/MLB-RSNs.aspx
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Geoff Leppard on October 05, 2012, 10:50:41 am
(http://i.imgur.com/nAhBg.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 05, 2012, 02:24:04 pm
Clearly it's a young Samantha Brown.

(http://images.zap2it.com/images/tv-EP00395559/girl-meets-hawaii-samantha-brown-2.jpg)

She's so friggin hot I can hardly stand it. During a spell of unemployment her travel show in the afternoon was all I had to look forward too.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 05, 2012, 02:25:19 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/nAhBg.jpg)

WHOA!! The one on the right looks like Bob Dole.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on October 05, 2012, 02:28:01 pm
Samantha Brown has got to be the most generically vanilla woman ever to grace the screen. I'll bet she was born wearing J. Jill and will get pregnant if you say 'fuck' in front of her.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Yada on October 05, 2012, 02:35:15 pm
Best thing on the net at this moment.

http://imgur.com/a/9H0Hv

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 05, 2012, 02:36:01 pm
(http://www.travelchannel.com/static_files/imagesource/imageinput/blog_sam-brown-baby.jpg)

and she like guys with beards, too.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 05, 2012, 02:36:24 pm
Though I can't argue against your first sentence, I can say that vanilla done right can be a very, very awesome flavor (of ice cream, of course)  ;).

Samantha Brown has got to be the most generically vanilla woman ever to grace the screen. I'll bet she was born wearing J. Jill and will get pregnant if you say 'fuck' in front of her.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on October 05, 2012, 02:39:49 pm
She looks like a much more boring version of Gwyneth Paltrow
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 05, 2012, 02:40:23 pm
I actually think I'd look a little like this guy if I grew out my hair, my beard, put on a little bit of weight, and bought some glasses that were a little more middle of the road than what i wear.

Could just be my imagination though.


and she like guys with beards, too.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on October 05, 2012, 02:45:07 pm
This is the first result under a GIS for "sexy samantha brown"

(http://s1.hubimg.com/u/2535960_f496.jpg)

Well of course she showers wearing a towel.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 06, 2012, 10:52:42 am
Best thing on the net at this moment.

http://imgur.com/a/9H0Hv



this is certifiably excellent.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 08, 2012, 12:07:30 am
Can't help but pull a Rhett here. Surprised that he hasn't done so already. Lydon looks like he's on his way to the refrigerator for a midnight snack.

(http://cdn.ticketfly.com/i/00/00/28/46/67-atmd.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 08, 2012, 07:23:25 am
All the cool kids are going to The Melvins instead.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 08, 2012, 10:28:07 am
he hates black people

he hates gay people

he hates the fact that pil wasn't sex pistols

what a draw.  i wonder what kind of clothes he wears.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 08, 2012, 12:16:21 pm
Poptones last time was pretty awesome, I have to admit.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on October 10, 2012, 01:04:15 am
Hi all.  Been a while.  I'm still alive but not so much kicking.  Surgery was four weeks ago on Thursday of this week.  I am still pretty weak, tired, and lethargic.  This recovery is taking a whole lot longer than I expected.  I guess it is a sign of getting old combined with having as many surgeries as I have had so far in my life.  Anyway, I'll try to be back here before too long to join in the conversations.  I don't think I'll be back at the club for a show for a while though.  The drive from Richmond is probably more than I can tolerate for some time to come.  Heck I have not even been to a show here in Richmond yet.  So just wanted to drop in and say hello to everyone.  See you when I am back up to it.  Y'all take care in the mean time.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 10, 2012, 09:37:53 am
he hates black people

he hates gay people

he hates the fact that pil wasn't sex pistols

what a draw.  i wonder what kind of clothes he wears.

I don't believe any of that is true.  His autobiography "No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs" is the best rock bio ever written.  He had a very hard life so he is angry from time to time.  I am sure it is not directed at any group in particular.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 10, 2012, 09:51:19 am
i wonder what kind of clothes he wears.

burberry, according to wikipedia.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 10, 2012, 10:06:03 am
Lydon is about as cool as they come in my book and put on a great great show...... so glad I went .. had not seen him since 1996 at Patriot Center...

the bio is great btw.. highly recommended... and it was a useful read since I recognized his "bodyguard" was his friend john rambo stevens and got him to get my lp autographed. i think if you read lydon's book and legs mcneil's please kill me you'd have a good idea about punk music.. two best books on the subject one from the US angle and one from the UK angle.


walkie's charges are laughable so I won't even bother... I know he's having a tough time lately but come on dude stop acting like the village idiot... go on another "hiatus" if you need more time to recover
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 10, 2012, 10:41:24 am
interesting.. the show after DC in Brooklyn sold out but Philly has been cancelled.. anyways, Lydon had nice words about DC so there you go


Washington DC did not let PiL down this evening. An extremely varied audience, we were very impressed with the diversity and they were very impressed with our diversity. A good evening was had by all. Excellent. PiL are on the rise. May we ascend into heaven where we belong.

John Lydon, October 8th 2012
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on October 10, 2012, 10:54:21 am
Inter species love at my house this morning.  You'd think this was a fleeting kodak moment but this is every day of the week!

(http://s11.postimage.org/vrd6043cj/ggrico.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 10, 2012, 01:00:42 pm
that's an obnoxiously cute pic.

now if only james ford and hutch could get along that well...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 10, 2012, 01:22:36 pm
Hahahaha. You know me all too well.

I was actually going to post something to that effect a few day ago. But then I got caught up with something else and never got around to it.

Can't help but pull a Rhett here. Surprised that he hasn't done so already. Lydon looks like he's on his way to the refrigerator for a midnight snack.

(http://cdn.ticketfly.com/i/00/00/28/46/67-atmd.jpg)

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 10, 2012, 06:23:06 pm
from the days of my cross over interests into music, which meant listenting to ratt, michael jackson, culture club, madonna, quiet riot, twisted sister . . . then into nothing but two bands:  dead kennedys and sex pistols.  always, and only, mister rotten and everything he did i followed like a idiot devotee.  the music i still listen to, but always thought pil straight up blew.  if you pay enough attention to things that have been reported on him that he is saying through out the years to other bands and such, you will realize what i said hints of being true, and yes perhaps i overstretch the full spectrum of it, but it is still there, or i would not say them.  and the library is closed.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 10, 2012, 09:01:21 pm
Didn't he make racist remarks to the Bloc Party dude following a show once?


For the record, I'll take PiL over The Sex Pistols any day.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 10, 2012, 09:08:18 pm
Didn't he make racist remarks to the Bloc Party dude following a show once?


For the record, I'll take PiL over The Sex Pistols any day.


hipster
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 10, 2012, 09:59:28 pm
This article on Emily White is a good read. (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/43338/hey-internet-girl-everyone-had-something-to-say-this-summer/) Amanda Palmer still sucks, though.
And David Lowery is a stupid buffoon and I still don't understand why his response to the White piece was praised so highly by almost everybody.


I'll be over here downloading some CVB albums.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 10, 2012, 11:43:37 pm
This article on Emily White is a good read. (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/43338/hey-internet-girl-everyone-had-something-to-say-this-summer/) Amanda Palmer still sucks, though.
And David Lowery is a stupid buffoon and I still don't understand why his response to the White piece was praised so highly by almost everybody.


I'll be over here downloading some CVB albums.


I don't understand the point to the Emily White article.  Somone who has terrible taste in music and doesn't pay for it? I am sure that is half of america.  Amanda Palmer I love.  Great that she was able to get all that money from her fans to make her album.  Why is their backlash?  That she has fans that like her for her music and aren't influenced by record labels or pretentious blogs like pitchfork?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 10, 2012, 11:48:07 pm
Oh I see Amanda is allowing fans to play with her at shows and somehow that is bad because she isn't paying them.  Whatever.  I guess the backlash comes from people who nothing about how amanda's shows work. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 11, 2012, 08:08:12 am
Pay your employees. This is America.

Oh I see Amanda is allowing fans to play with her at shows and somehow that is bad because she isn't paying them.  Whatever.  I guess the backlash comes from people who nothing about how amanda's shows work. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 11, 2012, 09:10:43 am
the best thing written on that article page is azag's comment.

does this topic really warrant 4000 words? kids will always want to consume but don't want to pay, the internet makes a big deal about things that don't matter, and somewhere, some old dude bitched and moaned about something that doesn't concern him.  boom, 36 words (or, 1% of what was written).
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 11, 2012, 02:40:56 pm
Pay your employees. This is America.

Oh I see Amanda is allowing fans to play with her at shows and somehow that is bad because she isn't paying them.  Whatever.  I guess the backlash comes from people who nothing about how amanda's shows work. 

They are not her employees.  Her band is payed.  She just invited fans to play at each show.  Which is actually cool.  But I guess they need to backlash her because she quit her record label and did things herself and is actually doing well. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 11, 2012, 03:22:18 pm
Pay your employees. This is America.

Oh I see Amanda is allowing fans to play with her at shows and somehow that is bad because she isn't paying them.  Whatever.  I guess the backlash comes from people who nothing about how amanda's shows work. 

They are not her employees.  Her band is payed.  She just invited fans to play at each show.  Which is actually cool.  But I guess they need to backlash her because she quit her record label and did things herself and is actually doing well. 

Consider them on-site temps. They should be paid. You don't beg your fans for a million dollars, then, after getting it a million dollars, beg for them to play in your band, then pay them with hugs. It's like demanding a tax break so that you can supposedly create jobs domestically and then, after getting a tax break, moving the jobs overseas.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 11, 2012, 03:38:55 pm
Pay your employees. This is America.

Oh I see Amanda is allowing fans to play with her at shows and somehow that is bad because she isn't paying them.  Whatever.  I guess the backlash comes from people who nothing about how amanda's shows work. 

They are not her employees.  Her band is payed.  She just invited fans to play at each show.  Which is actually cool.  But I guess they need to backlash her because she quit her record label and did things herself and is actually doing well. 

Consider them on-site temps. They should be paid. You don't beg your fans for a million dollars, then, after getting it a million dollars, beg for them to play in your band, then pay them with hugs. It's like demanding a tax break so that you can supposedly create jobs domestically and then, after getting a tax break, moving the jobs overseas.

pollyphonic spree are chargin 1500 to sing in their chrous and people are payuing it.  I am sure none of the poeple playing with the band expects to be paid.  Just people outide who have to somethign wrong with everything.


Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 11, 2012, 05:16:15 pm
people are 100% free to NOT play with her.  they do it because they want to, because it's an honor and a thrill.

sheesh...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 11, 2012, 05:53:36 pm
Sure they are. But at the same time, her refusing to give them anything for their services (after she raised more than enough to give them something) does make her look greedy and ungrateful.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 11, 2012, 05:58:23 pm
Professional musicians are honored best when they are treated as professional musicians. Sure, if hobbyist players want to play for free, fine. But you get what you pay for.

I've heard from many professional musicians trying to start a career or just get a little scratch who are routinely asked to play for free at weddings. Yet the wedding party will pay for the catering, photographer, minister, etc. These are musicians who have spent most of their lives honing their skills and paying tens of thousands of dollars for lessons and professional-grade instruments and their care. I've got friends who have played for presidents. They get paid.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on October 11, 2012, 06:28:31 pm
I know theyre playing Baltimore but gotdamn, I wish Pig Destroyer were playing DC
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Unsanity on October 12, 2012, 12:59:35 pm
I know theyre playing Baltimore but gotdamn, I wish Pig Destroyer were playing DC

Yeah they need to put up a DC / VA date! That Ottobar gig is going to be awesome though! Royal Thunder is opening and they are rad. Ilsa is evil as hell too.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on October 12, 2012, 04:16:55 pm
I'm also bummed that I'm just getting into Metz now after they played DC9 a month ago. Dammit! That said, they're at the Red Palace as an opener on Nov. 17 so that's good.

Great noisy rock album, really digging it.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 12, 2012, 04:22:48 pm
Professional musicians are honored best when they are treated as professional musicians. Sure, if hobbyist players want to play for free, fine. But you get what you pay for.

I've heard from many professional musicians trying to start a career or just get a little scratch who are routinely asked to play for free at weddings. Yet the wedding party will pay for the catering, photographer, minister, etc. These are musicians who have spent most of their lives honing their skills and paying tens of thousands of dollars for lessons and professional-grade instruments and their care. I've got friends who have played for presidents. They get paid.

i checked out prices for live performers for my recent wedding and the prices they are charge are far from free.   And when you look at the fact that you can get Polyphonic Spree to play your event for 10k it makes the prices even look more out of line.

i think amanda is looking for fans to play not  professional quality musicians.   if she pays someone to play than the fans wouldn't get a chance to pefrorm.  the whole backlash is ridiculous. 

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on October 12, 2012, 05:18:10 pm
It's lame for her to do this. Do you think she's going to charge less for her shows since members of the band are playing for free? Of course not, she's going to frantically stampede toward any and every dollar she can. So the ticket-buying fans are getting a discount amateur product but paying full rate.

She raised more than a million dollars from her fans, so she has the ability to pay musicians. Does she seriously require $1.2 million to make a record? What she's doing, and then trying to be all cutesy about it, sucks. I love the Albini line that this move demonstrates that Amanda Palmer is proving she's more stupid than every dumb-fucking band like Creed, Limp Bizkit, GG Allin, etc. who never needed to beg their fans for free money and services.

And really, she can say all she wants that she's just allowing her fans to play but that's similar to Vince Neil saying, hey I was just giving all those bitches a chance to fuck a rock star, and that doesn't make him any less of a pig.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 13, 2012, 09:51:40 am
It's lame for her to do this. Do you think she's going to charge less for her shows since members of the band are playing for free? Of course not, she's going to frantically stampede toward any and every dollar she can. So the ticket-buying fans are getting a discount amateur product but paying full rate.

She raised more than a million dollars from her fans, so she has the ability to pay musicians. Does she seriously require $1.2 million to make a record? What she's doing, and then trying to be all cutesy about it, sucks. I love the Albini line that this move demonstrates that Amanda Palmer is proving she's more stupid than every dumb-fucking band like Creed, Limp Bizkit, GG Allin, etc. who never needed to beg their fans for free money and services.

And really, she can say all she wants that she's just allowing her fans to play but that's similar to Vince Neil saying, hey I was just giving all those bitches a chance to fuck a rock star, and that doesn't make him any less of a pig.

I am guessing you have never seen amanda palmer/dresden dolls/evelyn evelyn live or even listen to their music. The lame bands that you mention don't get money from their fans becuase they were on major labels who handled their promotion, videos, tour, album production, distribution etc etc.  Amanda quit her label when they told her she needed to lose weight.  Even though she is quite skinny. 

She didn't get 1.2 million.  People bought mechandise or if they donated a dollar they got the album on mp3s.  The backlash is there because people can't stand she is doing this without the music industry.  No pitchfork stellar reviews.  No record label promotion.  No hipsters worshipping her on the web. 

Of course the musicians that are playing with her are of amateur level ability.  that is part of the charm.  They are going up on stage and having a good time.  Amanda meets with her fans after shows.   She encouraged the crowd to come and perform when she was in the Dresden Dolls.  She has put out 4 classic albums which have been ignored by everyone except her fans.  I am sure if radiohead offered their fans a chance to sing with them on stage you would be rushing to sign up

She pays here band year round.  Even when they aren't performing.  These are amateur fans who are coming up and having a good time.  The point is not about how great they sound it is about eveyone haveing a great time. 

Anyway she is paying her volunteers even the ones that performed already.   I wonder if you have a problem with festivals that millions of dollars like Lollapalooza or Bonnaroo paying having volunteers or the baseball teams paying their players millions of dollars and playing people who worked there close to minimum wage?  As opposed to people that are doing things because they want to.  Not one volunteer has complained about not being paid.  No one has not shown up.

The thing is ridiculous.  And I am sure if here kickstarter had only raised 2000 dollars and she couldn't produce her album no one would worry about her at all..  It is just because she is actually donig something amazing and she doesn't need the old non working music system and is coming out and saying all music should be free the record industry is finding ways to try and discredit her.

ANd who is steve albini? 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: nkotb on October 13, 2012, 05:21:25 pm
Two dumbest sentences here:

She has put out 4 classic albums which have been ignored by everyone except her fans. 

ANd who is steve albini? 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Vas Deferens on October 13, 2012, 05:29:03 pm
Amanda Palmer blows, that's for sure.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 13, 2012, 07:39:24 pm
Steve Albini agrees with her assertion that recorded music should be freely available and is as anti-conventional music industry as it gets. So your argument does not really hold water.
He just did a reddit AMA where he addressed the Emily White drama and has been an outspoken proponent of file-sharing as long as I remember. Whether or not you agree with that (guessing most would not) is another debate in and of itself.


Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on October 15, 2012, 11:24:04 am
Question was answered by the band so I deleted my post.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 16, 2012, 10:49:41 am
More Amanda Palmer news

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2012/10/15/amanda-palmers-got-the-world-sharing-health-insurance-hell-at-insurancepoll/?hpid=z5
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 16, 2012, 12:12:35 pm
And here is more Emily White: http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2012/10/16/wednesday-chat-with-emily-white-and-lindsay-zoladz-about-streaming-piracy-and-um-emily-white/
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 16, 2012, 02:53:59 pm
I got no concerts I am excited about the next two weeks... which is a bummer..I could use something..
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on October 16, 2012, 03:03:47 pm
don't you think Amanda Palmer was really into "RENT: The Musical"?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 16, 2012, 03:16:51 pm
don't you think Amanda Palmer was really into "RENT: The Musical"?

Shit, it seems like the whole freaking indie scene has gone Glee. Did you see Passion Pit on SNL?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 16, 2012, 03:20:59 pm
two words

redd kross

when they changed their style . . . it all died.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 16, 2012, 03:30:43 pm
I like the new Red Kross.


Hutch, not a Dino fan?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on October 16, 2012, 03:40:33 pm
I like the new Red Kross too. Walkonby, how exactly have they changed? They've pretty much been playing throwback power pop since they were teenagers.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on October 16, 2012, 03:41:45 pm
Shit, it seems like the whole freaking indie scene has gone Glee.

Drama club nerds are a special brand of nerds that I just don't get.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on October 16, 2012, 03:42:44 pm
I just posted a praiseworthy review on Amazon of Farrah Abraham's album. I have never before written a review on Amazon and I'll be a little surprised if I ever do again. At the moment, I'm on my 17th playthrough, according to iTunes. Can't lie, I kind of love it.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 16, 2012, 03:47:56 pm
I like the new Red Kross too. Walkonby, how exactly have they changed? They've pretty much been playing throwback power pop since they were teenagers.

(http://www.feltandwire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/16-17-redd-kross.jpg)  and (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5_yDPoU8rko/UDY2BYfsDwI/AAAAAAAAE50/mNCCV3JREoE/s320/Redd+Kross+-+Third+Eye+-+1990.jpg)

into (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1_Os_DeRofY/T6zkwzch6XI/AAAAAAAABYw/2Mq9du3vRK0/s1600/redd%2Bkross.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: nkotb on October 16, 2012, 03:49:45 pm
Yeah, screw those guys for BECOMING ADULTS.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 16, 2012, 03:50:21 pm
what he said.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 18, 2012, 10:48:54 am
DC needs a freefrom radio station comparable to WFMU. Has anybody tried since HFS switched formats decades back?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 18, 2012, 11:38:52 am
DC needs a freefrom radio station comparable to WFMU. Has anybody tried since HFS switched formats decades back?


WRNR tried in its first couple of years. Like HFS, it slowly devolved into more tightly controlled playlists. Then they hired a couple of former HFS douches who were determined to relive their former "glory". They brought their Stone Temple Pilots CDs with them. The end.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 18, 2012, 12:28:46 pm
DC needs a freefrom radio station comparable to WFMU. Has anybody tried since HFS switched formats decades back?


even if they have free form radio stations they suck.  Baltimore has WTMD which is pretty awful they end up playing a bunch of stupid paul simon songs and other lame stuff like that.  I think the problem is the youth of the today has pretty lame taste in  music so if you do free form you have to have someone good doing it.  THey have weasel on during the weekends if you really want to hear lame music with 15 minutes of talking about the song to prove how smart he is between the songs.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 18, 2012, 12:40:49 pm
Though he sounds like he's yet to hit puberty, I'd hardly call Weasel a youth.
 ;D

DC needs a freefrom radio station comparable to WFMU. Has anybody tried since HFS switched formats decades back?


even if they have free form radio stations they suck.  Baltimore has WTMD which is pretty awful they end up playing a bunch of stupid paul simon songs and other lame stuff like that.  I think the problem is the youth of the today has pretty lame taste in  music so if you do free form you have to have someone good doing it.  THey have weasel on during the weekends if you really want to hear lame music with 15 minutes of talking about the song to prove how smart he is between the songs.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 18, 2012, 12:51:34 pm
Though he sounds like he's yet to hit puberty, I'd hardly call Weasel a youth.
 ;D

DC needs a freefrom radio station comparable to WFMU. Has anybody tried since HFS switched formats decades back?


even if they have free form radio stations they suck.  Baltimore has WTMD which is pretty awful they end up playing a bunch of stupid paul simon songs and other lame stuff like that.  I think the problem is the youth of the today has pretty lame taste in  music so if you do free form you have to have someone good doing it.  THey have weasel on during the weekends if you really want to hear lame music with 15 minutes of talking about the song to prove how smart he is between the songs.





i was talking about their weekday dj's when i was saying youth.  Yeah i have only seen weasel once.  In january 1985 he got up on stage to introduce to marshall crenswaw and 10000 maniacs and he looked like a homeless old man then.  I can only imagine what he looks like now.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 18, 2012, 12:59:18 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/whatever-happened-towhfs-dj-jonathan-weasel-gilbert/2011/03/18/AFtkjExC_story.html



Though he sounds like he's yet to hit puberty, I'd hardly call Weasel a youth.
 ;D

DC needs a freefrom radio station comparable to WFMU. Has anybody tried since HFS switched formats decades back?


even if they have free form radio stations they suck.  Baltimore has WTMD which is pretty awful they end up playing a bunch of stupid paul simon songs and other lame stuff like that.  I think the problem is the youth of the today has pretty lame taste in  music so if you do free form you have to have someone good doing it.  THey have weasel on during the weekends if you really want to hear lame music with 15 minutes of talking about the song to prove how smart he is between the songs.





i was talking about their weekday dj's when i was saying youth.  Yeah i have only seen weasel once.  In january 1985 he got up on stage to introduce to marshall crenswaw and 10000 maniacs and he looked like a homeless old man then.  I can only imagine what he looks like now.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: nkotb on October 18, 2012, 01:01:25 pm
Anytime someone on this forum that's way deep into music mentions their older than I am, I automatically assume they look like this:

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2011/03/24/Others/Images/2011-03-24/_MG_8873_1300982941.jpg)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/whatever-happened-towhfs-dj-jonathan-weasel-gilbert/2011/03/18/AFtkjExC_story.html
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 18, 2012, 01:04:30 pm
Anytime someone on this forum that's way deep into music mentions their older than I am, I automatically assume they look like this:

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2011/03/24/Others/Images/2011-03-24/_MG_8873_1300982941.jpg)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/whatever-happened-towhfs-dj-jonathan-weasel-gilbert/2011/03/18/AFtkjExC_story.html


is that Ratbastard? man..brutal
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 18, 2012, 01:32:43 pm
Anytime someone on this forum that's way deep into music mentions their older than I am, I automatically assume they look like this:

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2011/03/24/Others/Images/2011-03-24/_MG_8873_1300982941.jpg)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/whatever-happened-towhfs-dj-jonathan-weasel-gilbert/2011/03/18/AFtkjExC_story.html

funny. older doesn't mean you look like a rodent. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 18, 2012, 01:36:00 pm
You guys are so mean! I bet he has friends (if not himself) who frequent this board.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Geoff Leppard on October 18, 2012, 01:36:17 pm
Anytime someone on this forum that's way deep into music mentions their older than I am, I automatically assume they look like this:

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2011/03/24/Others/Images/2011-03-24/_MG_8873_1300982941.jpg)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/whatever-happened-towhfs-dj-jonathan-weasel-gilbert/2011/03/18/AFtkjExC_story.html

funny. older doesn't mean you look like a rodent. 

That bump...on his forehead....can't....stop....looking....
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 18, 2012, 01:39:18 pm
I assume our younger members look like this:

(http://www.movieactors.com/photos-stars/steve-buscemi-ghostworld0.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 19, 2012, 09:15:23 am
Colbert last night was the first time I heard a full killers song.

Sounded like the 80's schlock pendulum has completely swung back around.

First thing I thought of was this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMIsJM4IfUY)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: slappy on October 19, 2012, 10:21:05 am
True fact: Weasel is actually Mr. Burns younger brother
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2011/03/24/Others/Images/2011-03-24/_MG_8873_1300982941.jpg)

(http://live.drjays.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/MrBurns.jpg)


Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 19, 2012, 11:11:39 am
this board sucks lately.. no action.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 21, 2012, 03:40:09 pm
I've always had this strange love of industrial photography of which this satisfies.

Here's a very interesting look inside the guts of Google (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2219188/Inside-Google-pictures-gives-look-8-vast-data-centres.html).

Some very beautiful and colorful industrial photos.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 21, 2012, 03:45:11 pm
removes NKOTB from birthday and christmas card lists  :'(

and there must be some DC FM station going cheap these days, maybe Seth could buy one.  I call Soul/Funk shift.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 21, 2012, 03:53:54 pm
The club is still equipped for radio, is it not? Running a station out of there 24/7 would be tricky though.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on October 21, 2012, 04:11:44 pm
The club is still equipped for radio, is it not? Running a station out of there 24/7 would be tricky though.

Royalties and the like would kill the idea. Either that or triple the price of drinks and such. Nice idea though.

Seacrets in OC has one but I've never tried listening. Probably only broadcasts for a few miles out, if that. Something that I should know about anyway as someone is bound to ask me about it one of these days.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 21, 2012, 05:19:02 pm
and there must be some DC FM station going cheap these days, maybe Seth could buy one.  I call Soul/Funk shift.

99.1 is all-news nowadays and its ratings are in the gutter.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 22, 2012, 02:03:06 pm
this board sucks lately.. no action.

board is what you make it.  Start some new and interesting threads.


i was just thinking the other day that places like 930 club and black cat ..etc etc are like the movie theaters in the 70's.  Fine as long as someone taller than you was in front of you.  When are they going to upgrade the live music venues in this area?   

Why aren't there shows anymore at Constitution Hall or Warner Theater?  They were decent places to see bands.  Sick of going to shitty old style bars to see bands.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 22, 2012, 02:50:37 pm
Prepare to be skewered for calling Constitution Hall a decent venue.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 22, 2012, 04:53:33 pm
Constitution Hall is not a music venue.


As far as the Warner we all know what is going on there... Live Nation routes its concerts , almost exclusively, to the Fillmore. Costs far less to put on a show there.

The Hamilton is a wonderful music venue by the way.. not a "cheap bar"
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 22, 2012, 06:25:18 pm
Seth has more than likely started using Merriweather instead of Constitution Hall for shows at that level.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 23, 2012, 11:03:38 am
Seth has more than likely started using Merriweather instead of Constitution Hall for shows at that level.

True. The problem with MPP, for me, is that its just too far...I don't consider it a DC venue. In any case its not much of an option during winter.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 23, 2012, 12:09:38 pm
Seth has more than likely started using Merriweather instead of Constitution Hall for shows at that level.

bands used to do shows at MPP in summer and then come back in winter and do Constitution Hall.  They should have more shows at that place that Jeff Magnum played.  Actually a very nice venue but have never seen any other shows listed for it.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on October 23, 2012, 01:37:09 pm
Seth has more than likely started using Merriweather instead of Constitution Hall for shows at that level.

bands used to do shows at MPP in summer and then come back in winter and do Constitution Hall.  They should have more shows at that place that Jeff Magnum played.  Actually a very nice venue but have never seen any other shows listed for it.


yeah the Lincoln Theatre...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 23, 2012, 02:54:52 pm
I like The Lincoln as well.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on October 23, 2012, 03:54:44 pm
Seth has more than likely started using Merriweather instead of Constitution Hall for shows at that level.

bands used to do shows at MPP in summer and then come back in winter and do Constitution Hall.  They should have more shows at that place that Jeff Magnum played.  Actually a very nice venue but have never seen any other shows listed for it.

yeah the Lincoln Theatre...


http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/general/2012/08/03/city-releases-request-for-proposals-for-new-lincoln-theatre-operator/
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 23, 2012, 09:19:23 pm
Third party debate right now on RT with Larry King acting as moderator.

Jill Stein, Rocky Anderson, Virgil Goode and Gary Johnson.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2012, 02:40:14 pm
So what's the deal with men missing the urinal when they piss? Every fucking day I use the bathroom and someone has pissed on the floor. Today it was so bad, I started sliding on the floor as I pissed due to the piss on the floor and my lack of shoes with traction. Yet, I still manage to keep my piss in the urinal (which is well placed and at proper height), just as I have every day for the past 10 years.

We're in a small 22 person office that doesn't get much outside foot traffic. It has to be the same person doing it everyday, right?

How out of line would it be if I hung I sign saying "If you miss, please clean your piss."?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 25, 2012, 02:43:20 pm
So what's the deal with men missing the urinal when they piss? Every fucking day I use the bathroom and someone has pissed on the floor. Today it was so bad, I started sliding on the floor as I pissed due to the piss on the floor and my lack of shoes with traction. Yet, I still manage to keep my piss in the urinal (which is well placed and at proper height), just as I have every day for the past 10 years.

We're in a small 22 person office that doesn't get much outside foot traffic. It has to be the same person doing it everyday, right?

How out of line would it be if I hung I sign saying "If you miss, please clean your piss."?

I like to piss on top of the urinal to show how I dominate the others.   I would have no idea why someone would go on the floor. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 25, 2012, 02:50:14 pm
prices for Of Monsters and Men on stubhub are ridiculous.  I was waiting for them to go down for the philly show but unfortunately they are going up.  Might have to wait for day of show.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2012, 02:53:29 pm
Thanks for your input, Shaq. Fortunately, we don't have anybody of your height here, so hitting the top of the urinal isn't an issue.

So what's the deal with men missing the urinal when they piss? Every fucking day I use the bathroom and someone has pissed on the floor. Today it was so bad, I started sliding on the floor as I pissed due to the piss on the floor and my lack of shoes with traction. Yet, I still manage to keep my piss in the urinal (which is well placed and at proper height), just as I have every day for the past 10 years.

We're in a small 22 person office that doesn't get much outside foot traffic. It has to be the same person doing it everyday, right?

How out of line would it be if I hung I sign saying "If you miss, please clean your piss."?

I like to piss on top of the urinal to show how I dominate the others.   I would have no idea why someone would go on the floor. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2012, 02:54:16 pm
Anything above $5 would seem a bit ridiculous.
 ;D
prices for Of Monsters and Men on stubhub are ridiculous.  I was waiting for them to go down for the philly show but unfortunately they are going up.  Might have to wait for day of show.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 25, 2012, 03:13:42 pm
Anything above $5 would seem a bit ridiculous.
 ;D
prices for Of Monsters and Men on stubhub are ridiculous.  I was waiting for them to go down for the philly show but unfortunately they are going up.  Might have to wait for day of show.

This brings me back to a thought I had: When I was in Icleand there was a mix station playing stuff from like 60's to now.  And I like everything song they played. Actually I didn't here a song I disliked the whole time I was in Iceland.  And I dislike almost everything I hear on the radio in this country.   And most of the bands people discuss on here.  It makes me believe that the music we like is genetic.  Most everyone was a tall blonde like myself. 

Anyway for whatever reason the of Monsters of Men album is probably the best album I have heard in the last year for sure.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on October 25, 2012, 03:18:02 pm
so i get this email that says it is from group on (which i don't subscribe to) and they are going to show "St Elmo's Fire" at the stadium.  bleacher seats are 15 and grass seats are 30.  To me this seems like something that would be free.  Shitty movie outside that is 30 years old.  You can see 3 new movies at the drive in for 8 bucks. and i have cover if it rains. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: slappy on October 26, 2012, 12:08:30 pm
so i get this email that says it is from group on (which i don't subscribe to) and they are going to show "St Elmo's Fire" at the stadium.  bleacher seats are 15 and grass seats are 30.  To me this seems like something that would be free.  Shitty movie outside that is 30 years old.  You can see 3 new movies at the drive in for 8 bucks. and i have cover if it rains. 

I guess you're paying for the location and supposedly an 80's cover band and 'look-alikes' from the movie for photo-ops. $38 gets you open beer/wine bar.

Not my cuppa tea either, but better than the non-existent metro DC drive in. You'll probably pay $30 in gas to get to the nearest drive in.

What's so bad about Groupon that you want to make it clear you don't subscribe?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 26, 2012, 05:05:04 pm
So what's the deal with men missing the urinal when they piss? Every fucking day I use the bathroom and someone has pissed on the floor. Today it was so bad, I started sliding on the floor as I pissed due to the piss on the floor and my lack of shoes with traction. Yet, I still manage to keep my piss in the urinal (which is well placed and at proper height), just as I have every day for the past 10 years.

We're in a small 22 person office that doesn't get much outside foot traffic. It has to be the same person doing it everyday, right?

How out of line would it be if I hung I sign saying "If you miss, please clean your piss."?

Sign seen in mens loo in a pub in Ireland

"WE AIM TO PLEASE. YOU AIM TOO, PLEASE"
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 26, 2012, 05:42:04 pm
So what's the deal with men missing the urinal when they piss? Every fucking day I use the bathroom and someone has pissed on the floor. Today it was so bad, I started sliding on the floor as I pissed due to the piss on the floor and my lack of shoes with traction. Yet, I still manage to keep my piss in the urinal (which is well placed and at proper height), just as I have every day for the past 10 years.

We're in a small 22 person office that doesn't get much outside foot traffic. It has to be the same person doing it everyday, right?

How out of line would it be if I hung I sign saying "If you miss, please clean your piss."?

i'd fully support you in this endeavor.  it's fucking gross.

Sign seen in mens loo in a pub in Ireland

"WE AIM TO PLEASE. YOU AIM TOO, PLEASE"

sign seen somewhere else:
"GENTLEMEN PLEASE STAND CLOSER TO THE URINAL.
 IT'S NOT AS LONG AS YOU THINK IT IS."
;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 26, 2012, 06:48:05 pm
I don't know about favorite, but the absolutely WORST smelling bathroom in all of DC is the mens room in the basement of the East wing of the National Gallery. Piss all over the floor and it smells like it hasn't been cleaned for days.
 
   I can never understand how men can miss the urinal like that.
 
    Nor can I understand the reason why one urinal at the George Mason library is always filled with toilet paper. Is this some custom praticed by foreign students?
 
    Does this tasteless rant qualify as taking a dump on the board?

Still bothering you, eh Rhett?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on October 27, 2012, 12:25:05 am
So what's the deal with men missing the urinal when they piss? Every fucking day I use the bathroom and someone has pissed on the floor. Today it was so bad, I started sliding on the floor as I pissed due to the piss on the floor and my lack of shoes with traction. Yet, I still manage to keep my piss in the urinal (which is well placed and at proper height), just as I have every day for the past 10 years.

We're in a small 22 person office that doesn't get much outside foot traffic. It has to be the same person doing it everyday, right?

How out of line would it be if I hung I sign saying "If you miss, please clean your piss."?

i'd fully support you in this endeavor.  it's fucking gross.

Sign seen in mens loo in a pub in Ireland

"WE AIM TO PLEASE. YOU AIM TOO, PLEASE"

sign seen somewhere else:
"GENTLEMEN PLEASE STAND CLOSER TO THE URINAL.
 IT'S NOT AS LONG AS YOU THINK IT IS."
;D

Sign seen at a club somewhere (maybe Nation before it died):
Stall to occupied by no more than one person at a time.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 27, 2012, 09:50:27 am
well lookie who is back.  missed ya . . . buddy

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4096/4925848646_322c1220e4.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 27, 2012, 11:15:17 am
(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Leah+Weller+Crazy+Horse+Premiere+5buD0bFP5V7l.jpg)

Any one seen recent picture of Paul Weller's daughter Leah?  I'm very confused at the moment...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 27, 2012, 11:34:21 am
check out those cat ears . . . MEOW!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Mark_Read on October 27, 2012, 01:21:46 pm
Lucky for her, she favors her mother.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x416/jimd_md/DeeCLee.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 02, 2012, 02:36:00 pm
So I went to the local italian sandwich shop today and ordered a double macchiato and the lady asked me if I wanted the traditional macchiato of an espresso with a dip of foam in it.  And I asked what other type of macchiato was there.  And she most people ordering a machiatto expect what starbucks serves.  So I looked up the starbucks macchiato and it seems it some big cup of carmamel. 

Why does a company that serves such awful products have such a high business rate.  Their espresso has to be the worst I have ever tasted.  I guess most people go for the 700 calorie coffee beverages.  Such a shame that this is what people enjoy.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 02, 2012, 02:49:54 pm
The company that single-handedly ruined coffee.


I wonder how often idiots walk into coffee shops that are not Starbucks and ask for a Frappuccino.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 02, 2012, 03:34:11 pm
So today there was a sign in the bathroom warning people not to put paper towels in the toilet because somebody had done so and clogged up the toilet. I can't believe I work in an office full of PHD's and this stuff happens.

I don't know about favorite, but the absolutely WORST smelling bathroom in all of DC is the mens room in the basement of the East wing of the National Gallery. Piss all over the floor and it smells like it hasn't been cleaned for days.
 
   I can never understand how men can miss the urinal like that.
 
    Nor can I understand the reason why one urinal at the George Mason library is always filled with toilet paper. Is this some custom praticed by foreign students?
 
    Does this tasteless rant qualify as taking a dump on the board?

Still bothering you, eh Rhett?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 02, 2012, 03:34:46 pm
Are you figuring out who you'd rather fuck, Paul or his daughter?

(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Leah+Weller+Crazy+Horse+Premiere+5buD0bFP5V7l.jpg)

Any one seen recent picture of Paul Weller's daughter Leah?  I'm very confused at the moment...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 02, 2012, 05:18:18 pm
So today there was a sign in the bathroom warning people not to put paper towels in the toilet because somebody had done so and clogged up the toilet. I can't believe I work in an office full of PHD's and this stuff happens.

I don't know about favorite, but the absolutely WORST smelling bathroom in all of DC is the mens room in the basement of the East wing of the National Gallery. Piss all over the floor and it smells like it hasn't been cleaned for days.
 
   I can never understand how men can miss the urinal like that.
 
    Nor can I understand the reason why one urinal at the George Mason library is always filled with toilet paper. Is this some custom praticed by foreign students?
 
    Does this tasteless rant qualify as taking a dump on the board?

Still bothering you, eh Rhett?

where is your office and where is the bathroom ... i want to do something to make your posts a little bit more interesting.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 03, 2012, 12:31:46 am
The world's greatest radio/internet radio station took a massive hit during Sandy and needs your money. Go give it to them. http://wfmu.org
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 03, 2012, 11:52:22 am
Are you figuring out who you'd rather fuck, Paul or his daughter?

(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Leah+Weller+Crazy+Horse+Premiere+5buD0bFP5V7l.jpg)

Any one seen recent picture of Paul Weller's daughter Leah?  I'm very confused at the moment...

something like that
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 08, 2012, 10:58:37 am
As long as they stick to the middle ground they've claimed and keep nominating minority candidates, the Democrats will never lose another presidential election.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 08, 2012, 11:15:04 am
As long as they stick to the middle ground they've claimed and keep nominating minority candidates, the Democrats will never lose another presidential election.

tendency to look at one election and draw big conclusions but US politics are like a pendulum... it will come back to the Republicans.... although I'm hopeful Hillary runs in 2016 and defeats Christie.. ... democrats could have the White House until 2024...but two and a half years is an eternity.. I remember in early 2006 talking with some friends about the 2008 election and everyone was betting McCain vs Clinton with McCain winning easily....we know how that turned out..

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 09, 2012, 06:24:24 pm
So the new casino that will be built in baltimore is going to have a 500 seat theater.  I wonder what type of bands they will book to the venue? 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on November 09, 2012, 06:37:38 pm
As long as they stick to the middle ground they've claimed and keep nominating minority candidates, the Democrats will never lose another presidential election.
GOP sure needs to figure something out.  Their plan of getting all the white guys to vote for them...the math just doesn't work anymore. 

"The problem is not with our platform, but with the electorate."

Translation

"There's too many non whites here now."

It will only get harder for them as time goes by.  No wonder they want to close the borders.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 09, 2012, 06:45:45 pm
i love that the solution that some are proposing is "we need to become more conservative".  i hope they run with that.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on November 09, 2012, 06:53:44 pm
Now that the election is over it's amazing to see how delusional they are.  They really believe they had it IN THE BAG.  Soundly defeated in almost every battleground state. 

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 09, 2012, 06:57:02 pm
Soundly defeated in almost every battleground state. 

eh, i wouldn't go that far.  there were a few 50% to 49% victories that could have gone the GOP's way had a few things been different.  the wrong candidate for the Dems and/or the right candidate for the GOP could swing things 1% or 2% which is all that is needed.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on November 09, 2012, 07:02:55 pm
Soundly defeated in almost every battleground state. 

eh, i wouldn't go that far.  there were a few 50% to 49% victories that could have gone the GOP's way had a few things been different.  the wrong candidate for the Dems and/or the right candidate for the GOP could swing things 1% or 2% which is all that is needed.
Colorado 4%, Iowa 6%, Nevada 6%, NH 6%, Wisconsin 7%...these are not close. 

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 09, 2012, 07:03:24 pm
Soundly defeated in almost every battleground state. 

eh, i wouldn't go that far.  there were a few 50% to 49% victories that could have gone the GOP's way had a few things been different.  the wrong candidate for the Dems and/or the right candidate for the GOP could swing things 1% or 2% which is all that is needed.

No. Even if the president had lost Ohio, Virginia and Florida he won the other battlegrounds by far more than 1-2% (I'm talking bout Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, and New Hampshire) and those would have been enough to get him the win.

This was a rout. One needs to think of it as having been an election ran entirely in the battleground states. That is where they campaigned, ran the ads, tailored the message to them in the debates, etc..the president won all of them but one (NC). The states Romney claimed to be making inroads (MI, WI, PA) weren't even close.

But of course the Republicans continue to be delusional.. nothing new... they really need to cease to exist or something.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 09, 2012, 07:08:24 pm
gay men are basically eighty year old women.  they like to drink, play bingo and oogle at hot guys in their underwear.

- from a neato show i listen to.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 09, 2012, 07:18:34 pm
Soundly defeated in almost every battleground state. 

eh, i wouldn't go that far.  there were a few 50% to 49% victories that could have gone the GOP's way had a few things been different.  the wrong candidate for the Dems and/or the right candidate for the GOP could swing things 1% or 2% which is all that is needed.
Colorado 4%, Iowa 6%, Nevada 6%, NH 6%, Wisconsin 7%...these are not close. 

if ohio & virginia & florida went to romney (i.e. the 3 very close results) = obama has 272 vs romney 266.    you can't get much closer than that.  so i was wrong in saying a small swing is all that is needed - they need the small swing, plus one more state.  that's not too comfy a margin.

however that margin is only going to get comfier as the population continues on its current trends... GOP: evolve, or die.  oh, wait, a lot of its members don't believe in evolution ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 09, 2012, 07:36:40 pm
The way to think about is that the president was reelected by winning the battleground states 9-1.

Had he not essentially given up on North Carolina he'd have won that one too.

This was a rout according to the rules of the game which include an electoral college with winner take all states (expect for Maine and Nebraska).
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 10, 2012, 10:55:50 pm
So the new casino that will be built in baltimore is going to have a 500 seat theater.  I wonder what type of bands they will book to the venue? 

Casino appear to be where bands stop between State Fair gigs.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 10, 2012, 11:17:36 pm
So the new casino that will be built in baltimore is going to have a 500 seat theater.  I wonder what type of bands they will book to the venue? 

Casino appear to be where bands stop between State Fair gigs.

uh oh
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 12, 2012, 04:03:59 pm
So the new casino that will be built in baltimore is going to have a 500 seat theater.  I wonder what type of bands they will book to the venue? 

Casino appear to be where bands stop between State Fair gigs.

I'm guessing this will have a bit more of a Grown N Sexy vibe.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 14, 2012, 09:05:38 am
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2012/11/13/paula-broadwell-is-staying-in-mount-pleasant/

Well OK then.

With regard to the election, Ratbastard has been mighty quiet lately.



Wyden/Warren 2016!


A guy can dream.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 14, 2012, 09:24:17 am

With regard to the election, Ratbastard has been mighty quiet lately.





somebody needs to wake him up (he may be heavily medicated) and tell him the world didn't end....
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2012, 10:14:57 am
What's the deal with people stretched out taking two seats on a crowded  Metro train when they only paid for one? Today I saw a girl with her handbag to her side and one asscheek on one seat and the other asscheek on the other seat. And two guys with their legs streched out over the whole seat like they were home on their mama's couch watching football. Sometimes I even see white people pulling this shit, though that wasn't the case today.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 14, 2012, 10:22:19 am
if you just act like you are sitting on them to get the seat, being all rude about it and acting like you don't give a fuck about them . . . they will move.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on November 14, 2012, 11:30:28 am
Walkonby, when is the last time you actually were on a DC metro?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2012, 11:52:56 am
One time I did politelyl ask a 250 pound teenage girl (think of the girl in Precious behaving like her mom and you get the idea) if she'd move her leg so I could sit down. When she refused, I tried to move her leg over, and she prompty punched me in the back of the head, knocking my glasses across the train car.

This is one of the reasons  why I usually stick to riding the VRE commuter train to work instead of taking Metro.

 (think the movie Precious)
if you just act like you are sitting on them to get the seat, being all rude about it and acting like you don't give a fuck about them . . . they will move.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on November 14, 2012, 11:58:39 am
You should not touch anyone, even if you do not agree with what they are doing.  While i dont agree with what the girl was doing, I definitely do not agree with you touching her.  Her punching your head was an appropriate response.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 14, 2012, 11:59:27 am
When I worked in Downtown DC and lived in columbia, md i tried the metro a bunch of times but it was the worst experience ever.  I like how when  had to switch trains people would step on my shoes they were so disrespectful of other people.  Or how they would crowd into traiins that were already full and refuse to leave when the doors didn't shut.  And then the driver would make everyone get off.

Or how when riding up on the escalators people would walk past you hitting their laptop bags into you.  I got to the point where I would just stand in the middle of the escalator and not let them by.  I told them to take the steps iif they wanted to walk.

I eventually just started taking the bus in.  It went right from columbia to my job with only 5 stops or so.  It might have been a little longer than driving to the metro than changiing trains.  But it was sure a lot more relaxing.  Finally I convinced them to let me come in at 10 and just drove in.  Best way by far and the quickest.  Left columbia at 9:15 and was at my garage in DC at 10.  
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 14, 2012, 12:00:19 pm
You should not touch anyone, even if you do not agree with what they are doing.  While i dont agree with what the girl was doing, I definitely do not agree with you touching her.  Her punching your head was an appropriate response.

And his appropiate response to her punching him, would be to stab her?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 14, 2012, 12:02:57 pm
DC metro blows.... to be avoided..not only does the service bring on the suck but the people who work in the system act like you're working for them...


one of the positives of moving to Arlington from DC has been buying a car and not riding the metro...


having said that, and I understand the frustration, obviously do not confront people over seats.. who cares??? Just fuckin' stand.. its not that hard.. don't let it get to you.. if its getting to you that much you're the one with the problem and its bigger than not having a seat for your lazy ass.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2012, 12:05:20 pm
In retrospect I do agree that attempting to move her leg was not a good move, however punching somebody in the head is rarely a proper response to ANYTHING in life, particularly as something as non-threatening as someone attempting to move your leg (from a place it shouldn't be).

You should not touch anyone, even if you do not agree with what they are doing.  While i dont agree with what the girl was doing, I definitely do not agree with you touching her.  Her punching your head was an appropriate response.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 14, 2012, 12:07:20 pm
In retrospect I do agree that attempting to move her leg was not a good move, however punching somebody in the head is rarely a proper response to ANYTHING in life, particularly as something as non-threatening as someone attempting to move your leg (from a place it shouldn't be).

You should not touch anyone, even if you do not agree with what they are doing.  While i dont agree with what the girl was doing, I definitely do not agree with you touching her.  Her punching your head was an appropriate response.

Did everyone see the video of the bus driver punching the women.  That is what james ford should have done after she punched him.  Mr Ford could have been a you tube star.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on November 14, 2012, 12:17:53 pm
When somebody's taking extra seats I always just look at them and then the seat like i'm gonna sit there and they always accomodate.  Not always happily, but this always works when I do it.

I love metro, standing or sitting.  Big headphones come between me and all the rude people. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 14, 2012, 12:36:13 pm
i've recently switched to a local job in DC and ride metro every day.  love it. 

when i come across a douchebag/douchebaguette taking up two seats i ask them politely if i could please sit in the other seat.  i haven't been turned down (or punched) once.  maybe it's just a numbers game and at some point i'll come across some idiot who won't share. 

edit: one morning there was a person taking up two seats on a full train and who was/appeared to be fast asleep.  i went over and nudged them, hoping to wake them up, and got no reaction.  other folks then informed me that they had also tried to wake him up with no success.  dunno if the person was truly asleep or just pretending (i.e. ignoring us).  either way i didn't care enough to do anything else about it so i stood.

Her punching your head was an appropriate response.

no it was not.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on November 14, 2012, 12:42:21 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m45fhac5Bp1qdaxfqo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on November 14, 2012, 01:56:35 pm
Did everyone see the video of the bus driver punching the women.  That is what james ford should have done after she punched him.  Mr Ford could have been a you tube star.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhqxX8zCjdQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhqxX8zCjdQ)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 14, 2012, 02:19:24 pm
When somebody's taking extra seats I always just look at them and then the seat like i'm gonna sit there and they always accomodate.  Not always happily, but this always works when I do it.

I love metro, standing or sitting.  Big headphones come between me and all the rude people. 

oh great.. so you're that guy blasting the music so that everyone can hear it..

 ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on November 14, 2012, 02:29:08 pm
When somebody's taking extra seats I always just look at them and then the seat like i'm gonna sit there and they always accomodate.  Not always happily, but this always works when I do it.

I love metro, standing or sitting.  Big headphones come between me and all the rude people. 

oh great.. so you're that guy blasting the music so that everyone can hear it..

 ;D
Nope they are closed over the ear studio monitors, designed specifically for no sound bleed.  sorry!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 14, 2012, 02:39:35 pm
good chaz..good.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2012, 02:56:07 pm
With every five bad Metro stories comes a good one, so I'll share my good one.

One the second of three crowded Metro trains this morning, I noticed a fine young gentleman (think Carlton from Fresh Prince of Bel Air) anticipating people needing a seat, and he moved his large suitcase onto his lap. After scanning to make sure there weren't any pregnant, elderly, disabled or blind people who might need to seat, I took it and thanked him.

I'm just amazed at the different experience that is Metro vs. VRE. One time I got on a nearly empty VRE car and absentmindedly put my backpack on the seat next to me. Soon thereafter a VRE conductor approached me and insisted that I put th backpack on the ground because:

a. potential patrons might want that seat
b. I should NEVER put my backpack on a seat because it could "potentially get dirt on a seat that a patron might sit down in."

 I wish THAT guy had been working on the Metro train when I had my encounter with Precious.



Another oddity is that Metro doesn't allow food on the train whereas VRE does (MARC even lets you consume your own alcohol (!), and yet there seem to be much more good spills on Metro.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2012, 03:23:06 pm
I was on the Metro the other day and had my ipod at near high volume. Seated in front of me was a 50something woman (think cleaning lady in a federal building) who also had an ipod. For several minutes she proceeded to belt out the foreign language tune in such a booming fashion that I heard her singing over the Slayer song that was playing on my ipod.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: fatskippy on November 14, 2012, 03:41:20 pm
Wow those are some great stories. Do you have a blog I can subscribe to?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2012, 03:48:07 pm
No, but if you're interested in feminist and parenting issues, my wife has one.

Wow those are some great stories. Do you have a blog I can subscribe to?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: nkotb on November 14, 2012, 03:52:51 pm
I'm mostly excited about THIS sentence!

Slayer song that was playing on my ipod.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on November 14, 2012, 04:12:27 pm
Okay, there is no way in God's green Earth that James Ford was listening to Slayer.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2012, 04:19:53 pm
Dude, nobody listens to Slayer. You simply experience them.

Okay, there is no way in God's green Earth that James Ford was listening to Slayer.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on November 14, 2012, 04:21:56 pm
Well well, I was just listening to Slayer not two hours ago whilst out running/freezing my bizalls off. "It's warm in the sun" MY ASS
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on November 14, 2012, 04:22:27 pm
I am a total Christ Illusion apologist. And I don't even care much for Reign in Blood.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: xneverwherex on November 14, 2012, 08:04:39 pm
i actually see nothing wrong with this response. After living in NYC long enough, you learn to NEVER EVER EVER touch anyone for anything. Id have punched someone too if they touched my leg. Ive had guys put their hands on me, grope me in crowded trains, and ive elbowed more than my share. Im used to beyond crowded trains (people pushing in as doors are closing) so if you *have* to sit, wait for another train. Good luck tho - as you cant always assume there is one right behind. In NYC your odds are much better, but in DC maybe not.

Its an extreme response, but touching someone for any reason that you dont know, is f'ing insane. 

You should not touch anyone, even if you do not agree with what they are doing.  While i dont agree with what the girl was doing, I definitely do not agree with you touching her.  Her punching your head was an appropriate response.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: wml7 on November 14, 2012, 08:06:36 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIlObKYwUyI

NYC for you
 ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2012, 08:24:18 pm
This is how wars start. Seems like a more civilized response would be to move your leg from where it doesn't belong.

If you're going to advocate punching someone (which I don't), maybe advocate punching them in the arm. Or even elbow them in the gut. A punch to the face can do serious damage.

i actually see nothing wrong with this response. After living in NYC long enough, you learn to NEVER EVER EVER touch anyone for anything. Id have punched someone too if they touched my leg. Ive had guys put their hands on me, grope me in crowded trains, and ive elbowed more than my share. Im used to beyond crowded trains (people pushing in as doors are closing) so if you *have* to sit, wait for another train. Good luck tho - as you cant always assume there is one right behind. In NYC your odds are much better, but in DC maybe not.

Its an extreme response, but touching someone for any reason that you dont know, is f'ing insane. 

You should not touch anyone, even if you do not agree with what they are doing.  While i dont agree with what the girl was doing, I definitely do not agree with you touching her.  Her punching your head was an appropriate response.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 15, 2012, 10:36:39 am
This is how wars start. Seems like a more civilized response would be to move your leg from where it doesn't belong.

If you're going to advocate punching someone (which I don't), maybe advocate punching them in the arm. Or even elbow them in the gut. A punch to the face can do serious damage.

i actually see nothing wrong with this response. After living in NYC long enough, you learn to NEVER EVER EVER touch anyone for anything. Id have punched someone too if they touched my leg. Ive had guys put their hands on me, grope me in crowded trains, and ive elbowed more than my share. Im used to beyond crowded trains (people pushing in as doors are closing) so if you *have* to sit, wait for another train. Good luck tho - as you cant always assume there is one right behind. In NYC your odds are much better, but in DC maybe not.

Its an extreme response, but touching someone for any reason that you dont know, is f'ing insane. 

You should not touch anyone, even if you do not agree with what they are doing.  While i dont agree with what the girl was doing, I definitely do not agree with you touching her.  Her punching your head was an appropriate response.

...violence is the perfect way to difuse a situation.

That's like spending your way out of debt.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 15, 2012, 11:14:34 am
Yeah I can't see why anyone thinks her response was in anyway appropiate.  If you keep increasing response someone ends up dead and the other person is looking at a long prison term.   
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 15, 2012, 11:36:42 am
To me, the situation most reminded me of a number of simliar situations I encountered in my 13 years of riding a school bus as a public school student.

Often it was the case that some redneck asshole would drape his foot across the seat, not letting anybody sit down next to him/her. It was the norm to ask, then if denied, push the asshole's leg out of the way so you could sit down. This actually happened to me and I'm sure countless other bus riders a number of times.

I can't remember if the asshole ever responded with a punch to the head. But if he/she did respond that way, and it was observed by the bus driver, I'm quite certain no bus driver who was properly doing their job would side on the side of the asshole and deem a punch to the head as appropriate. The asshole would likely be reprimanded with some kind of punishment, and the person who had stood up for his/her right to sit down would go unpunished.

Anyway, like I said...I personally won't bother with these assholes anymore. I'm glad I'm not a regular Metro rider and I'm glad my daughter will never have to ride a school bus to school.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on November 15, 2012, 11:40:32 am
Yeah I can't see why anyone thinks her response was in anyway appropiate. 
hahahahahahahahahahaha

Do people on here think I am female? 

Why?  My username?  Do I post in a feminine manner?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 15, 2012, 11:43:21 am
It remind me of all the people at the 930 club who excuse/push themselves by me and then stand right in front of me and then i have to pick them up and move them out of the way. Of course in these situations it is always guys who do it so I don't have to worry about them punching me in the back of the head.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 15, 2012, 11:44:29 am
Yeah I can't see why anyone thinks her response was in anyway appropiate. 
hahahahahahahahahahaha

Do people on here think I am female? 

Why?  My username?  Do I post in a feminine manner?

I was talking about the metro rider who punched james ford. I assumed you were a guy from your posts on this board.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on November 15, 2012, 12:00:41 pm
OK.  Good. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 15, 2012, 12:35:56 pm
Really? I find that women do that more often than men. And they're usually reasonably attractive, and seem to think that fact alone makes such behavior acceptable. Though maybe I'm projecting since I myself am not an attractive female.


It remind me of all the people at the 930 club who excuse/push themselves by me and then stand right in front of me and then i have to pick them up and move them out of the way. Of course in these situations it is always guys who do it so I don't have to worry about them punching me in the back of the head.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 15, 2012, 12:36:57 pm
The first four letters of your username are "kill". You must be a guy.

 ;D
Yeah I can't see why anyone thinks her response was in anyway appropiate. 
hahahahahahahahahahaha

Do people on here think I am female? 

Why?  My username?  Do I post in a feminine manner?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 15, 2012, 01:33:10 pm
Really? I find that women do that more often than men. And they're usually reasonably attractive, and seem to think that fact alone makes such behavior acceptable. Though maybe I'm projecting since I myself am not an attractive female.


It remind me of all the people at the 930 club who excuse/push themselves by me and then stand right in front of me and then i have to pick them up and move them out of the way. Of course in these situations it is always guys who do it so I don't have to worry about them punching me in the back of the head.

I guess attractive is in the eye of the beholder.   I think most chicks pushing their way forward want to get to very front and  I am never in the very front.  More likely to be 5 or 6 rows of people back.  But you could be the next to back person in the club and there would be some guy trying to push in front  of you to be one spot closer.  I have even had people in the upper level try to push in front of me on the rail.  Even when the place is pratically empty. 

I don't know how people get so disrespectful of other people.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 15, 2012, 01:48:46 pm
In other news, one of the most sophisticated militaries in the world is bombarding the most densely populated area in the world as we speak.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: nkotb on November 15, 2012, 01:50:52 pm
Guess they should've moved their fucking legs.

In other news, one of the most sophisticated militaries in the world is bombarding the most densely populated area in the world as we speak.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 15, 2012, 01:54:19 pm
I snickered.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 15, 2012, 02:09:58 pm
In other news, one of the most sophisticated militaries in the world is bombarding the most densely populated area in the world as we speak.


What is this Isreal and the gaza strip?  Why do we continue to give them tons of money that we dont have?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 15, 2012, 04:13:32 pm
Guess they should've moved their fucking legs.

In other news, one of the most sophisticated militaries in the world is bombarding the most densely populated area in the world as we speak.


...maybe they should stop trying to play soldiers by throwing shitty little bombs into densely populated areas of a country with one of the most sophisticated militaries in the world.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 15, 2012, 04:20:16 pm
Egypt, Palestine, Syria, Iran etc just need to accept Israel is not going anywhere and deal with it.. their governments and leadership are selling their people a load of BS and false hope....Israel is here to stay whether they like it or not..they had their chance to do something about it at the beginning and they blew it....now its too late for them.


when you hear the new leader of Egypt hasn't yet mentioned the word "Israel" one time what are you supposed to think?

Or they can elect islamists and ratchet up tensions but Israel isnt' going to go anywhere and will kick all their asses..

I don't much care for the state of Israel or Netanyahu (I can't stand the guy) but come on Arabs and Palestinians .. lets get serious and deal with reality as is and not what we want it to be.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 15, 2012, 04:29:48 pm
Egypt, Palestine, Syria, Iran etc just need to accept Israel is not going anywhere and deal with it.. their governments and leadership are selling their people a load of BS and false hope....Israel is here to stay whether they like it or not..they had their chance to do something about it at the beginning and they blew it....now its too late for them.


when you hear the new leader of Egypt hasn't yet mentioned the word "Israel" one time what are you supposed to think?

Or they can elect islamists and ratchet up tensions but Israel isnt' going to go anywhere and will kick all their asses..

I don't much care for the state of Israel or Netanyahu (I can't stand the guy) but come on Arabs and Palestinians .. lets get serious and deal with reality as is and not what we want it to be.

Well we wanted democracies in these countries.  So Eygptian people are on the side of the palestinans in Gaza.  If Syria has a revolution and a democracy they will be on the side Hamas a well.  Israel should work on peace with the palestinians.  I guess with the support of the US they can do whatever they want because we can veto any UN security council action. 

I just wish we would cut off aide to israel and eygpt.  We don't have the money and even if we did it could be spent on better things.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 15, 2012, 07:07:35 pm
The aid is insane and makes no sense at this point. Goes to show what lobbyists with deep pockets can accomplish.

With that said, this last provocation was stupid and gives the right wing elements in the Israeli government the excuse to indiscriminantly kill under the guise of self defense that they are looking for.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: wml7 on November 15, 2012, 08:15:52 pm
To me, the situation most reminded me of a number of simliar situations I encountered in my 13 years of riding a school bus as a public school student.

Often it was the case that some redneck asshole would drape his foot across the seat, not letting anybody sit down next to him/her. It was the norm to ask, then if denied, push the asshole's leg out of the way so you could sit down. This actually happened to me and I'm sure countless other bus riders a number of times.

I can't remember if the asshole ever responded with a punch to the head. But if he/she did respond that way, and it was observed by the bus driver, I'm quite certain no bus driver who was properly doing their job would side on the side of the asshole and deem a punch to the head as appropriate. The asshole would likely be reprimanded with some kind of punishment, and the person who had stood up for his/her right to sit down would go unpunished.

Anyway, like I said...I personally won't bother with these assholes anymore. I'm glad I'm not a regular Metro rider and I'm glad my daughter will never have to ride a school bus to school.

Great story Forrest Gump
(http://www.speakinggump.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/YouCantSitHere.jpg)
 ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on November 16, 2012, 04:11:39 pm
To me, the situation most reminded me of a number of simliar situations I encountered in my 13 years of riding a school bus as a public school student.

Often it was the case that some redneck asshole would drape his foot across the seat, not letting anybody sit down next to him/her. It was the norm to ask, then if denied, push the asshole's leg out of the way so you could sit down. This actually happened to me and I'm sure countless other bus riders a number of times.

I can't remember if the asshole ever responded with a punch to the head. But if he/she did respond that way, and it was observed by the bus driver, I'm quite certain no bus driver who was properly doing their job would side on the side of the asshole and deem a punch to the head as appropriate. The asshole would likely be reprimanded with some kind of punishment, and the person who had stood up for his/her right to sit down would go unpunished.

Anyway, like I said...I personally won't bother with these assholes anymore. I'm glad I'm not a regular Metro rider and I'm glad my daughter will never have to ride a school bus to school.

Great story Forrest Gump
(http://www.speakinggump.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/YouCantSitHere.jpg)
 ;D

Seat's taken!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 16, 2012, 04:31:16 pm
The aid is insane and makes no sense at this point. Goes to show what lobbyists with deep pockets can accomplish.

With that said, this last provocation was stupid and gives the right wing elements in the Israeli government the excuse to indiscriminantly kill under the guise of self defense that they are looking for.

The whole Palestine / Israel situation is hopeless. Until the Palestinians accept Israel is here to stay it will never be solved, and Palestine will lose. I feel bad for them but they need to live in the present and look towards a future for the sake of their kids and stop living in the past.

I know that's probably easy for me to say not being in their shoes, but reality is what reality is.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Mobius on November 19, 2012, 02:45:08 am
....Israel is here to stay whether they like it or not..they had their chance to do something about it at the beginning and they blew it....now its too late for them.




What if the Arab nations had accepted the original UN delination of Israel, giving them Gaza and the West Bank and splitting Jerusalem, and instead of committing to unending war actually made an effort to help the Palestinian people??  They chose a path of hate and death instead of life.  Dead end dogma and propaganda and haplessness instead of education and improvement.  That's how they blew it.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 19, 2012, 08:19:39 am
Must be convenient to be able to view the conflict as one-sidedly as that. Too bad it is not grounded in reality.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 19, 2012, 10:17:18 am
people who take religion seriously . . . are not based in reality.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 19, 2012, 10:20:14 am
....Israel is here to stay whether they like it or not..they had their chance to do something about it at the beginning and they blew it....now its too late for them.




What if the Arab nations had accepted the original UN delination of Israel, giving them Gaza and the West Bank and splitting Jerusalem, and instead of committing to unending war actually made an effort to help the Palestinian people??  They chose a path of hate and death instead of life.  Dead end dogma and propaganda and haplessness instead of education and improvement.  That's how they blew it.



what if you had a house.... and you shared it with someone... that person left and you lived in it for over a thousand years..maybe 1800 years.. don't know exactly how long..

suddenly the person comes back..


someone else you don't really know tells you "Hey, you got to split the house with your old roomie...he's had a really rough time lately.. nothing you did mind you"

would you say yes?



Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 19, 2012, 10:31:56 am
if they didn't take man made religion seriously and didn't start wars based on it . . . then yes, i would.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 19, 2012, 10:40:25 am
....Israel is here to stay whether they like it or not..they had their chance to do something about it at the beginning and they blew it....now its too late for them.




What if the Arab nations had accepted the original UN delination of Israel, giving them Gaza and the West Bank and splitting Jerusalem, and instead of committing to unending war actually made an effort to help the Palestinian people??  They chose a path of hate and death instead of life.  Dead end dogma and propaganda and haplessness instead of education and improvement.  That's how they blew it.



what if you had a house.... and you shared it with someone... that person left and you lived in it for over a thousand years..maybe 1800 years.. don't know exactly how long..

suddenly the person comes back..


someone else you don't really know tells you "Hey, you got to split the house with your old roomie...he's had a really rough time lately.. nothing you did mind you"

would you say yes?




Precisely. Anybody would have resisted if they were faced with such a predicament. And Israel's continuing to forcefully expand (while all this Gaza stuff is going on, they are building new settlements in the West Bank as we speak) is just as big an obstacle to peace as anything Hamas has done.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 19, 2012, 10:44:36 am
yes . . . humans having to share with others.  and get along.  and see each other as equal.  and not fight.  and love.  all ruined, because some idiot invented religion.  satan knows exactly what he is doing.   

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 19, 2012, 11:02:09 am
I guess genocidal maniacs breed genocidal maniacs: http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?ID=292466
Couldn't finish it.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 19, 2012, 04:46:37 pm
....Israel is here to stay whether they like it or not..they had their chance to do something about it at the beginning and they blew it....now its too late for them.




What if the Arab nations had accepted the original UN delination of Israel, giving them Gaza and the West Bank and splitting Jerusalem, and instead of committing to unending war actually made an effort to help the Palestinian people??  They chose a path of hate and death instead of life.  Dead end dogma and propaganda and haplessness instead of education and improvement.  That's how they blew it.



what if you had a house.... and you shared it with someone... that person left and you lived in it for over a thousand years..maybe 1800 years.. don't know exactly how long..

suddenly the person comes back..


someone else you don't really know tells you "Hey, you got to split the house with your old roomie...he's had a really rough time lately.. nothing you did mind you"

would you say yes?





All these opinions coming from a city who's football team is called the "redskins".   I consider that somewhat ironic.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 19, 2012, 04:56:02 pm
I like how people come on here and there first and only post is asking for tickets in the ticket exchange for shows that have been sold out for months.  There are ticketing sites and they have a purpose.  Go to them and buy your tickets.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on November 19, 2012, 05:18:55 pm
I like how people come on here and there first and only post is asking for tickets in the ticket exchange for shows that have been sold out for months.  There are ticketing sites and they have a purpose.  Go to them and buy your tickets.

Hey, Brian. While you are telling people to get off your turf, don't forget to tell them to get off of your lawn.
  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 19, 2012, 05:21:26 pm
I like how people come on here and there first and only post is asking for tickets in the ticket exchange for shows that have been sold out for months.  There are ticketing sites and they have a purpose.  Go to them and buy your tickets.

Hey, Brian. While you are telling people to get off your turf, don't forget to tell them to get off of your lawn.
  ;)  ;D

who is brian?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 19, 2012, 05:26:30 pm
Jaguar, I had the same theory. ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 19, 2012, 05:45:54 pm
Jaguar, I had the same theory. ;D


what theory is that? 

And by the way is this board the most dead on all of the internet?  There was one post all weekend. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 19, 2012, 06:10:32 pm
That you might be an infamous member of this forum's past under a different handle.


This board is usually most active on weekdays. Unless there is a big ticket sale on a weekend, or something.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on November 19, 2012, 06:12:16 pm
Jaguar, I had the same theory. ;D

Yeah, I had said that on here several months ago. Every one of his posts speak "Brian".
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 19, 2012, 06:16:32 pm
Jaguar, I had the same theory. ;D

Yeah, I had said that on here several months ago. Every one of his posts speak "Brian".

Who the heck is brian?  And I guess you aren't too bright that you said several months ago that I was someone I wasn't.  And who comes on to a board that no one posts on to pretend they are someone else. 

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 19, 2012, 06:17:34 pm
That you might be an infamous member of this forum's past under a different handle.


This board is usually most active on weekdays. Unless there is a big ticket sale on a weekend, or something.


post a link to his profile.  It might be interesting to check out someone who might be similar to me. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 19, 2012, 06:33:06 pm
Oh I found the guy and read his last 100 posts or so.  I really don't see a similarity in style.  But on five his opinioins i differed on 4.

1)  He said he loved the Black Keys.  I hate them.  Think they have no talent and have no idea why they got popular.

2) He dissed the Beatles.  WTF?  They are the best band of all time. He lost all respect to me at that post.

3) He is a christian. I am certainly not.

4)  Stone Roses - Omg did he really dismiss their first album???? How can anyone not love their debut?

5) Steve Jobs - he is on the money on this one.  Why anyone thinks Steve Jobs was beneficial to the world and not just another greedy 1 percenter is beyond me.  A guy who parked in handicap spots because he though he was special?  How could anyone make a hero out of such a person. 


But overall a very lazy guess.  Nothing similar in style or opinions.  Especially would never put my name at the end of every post. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 19, 2012, 07:31:36 pm
yep

brian

his uber denial . . . gave it away.

damn you.

i wanted to guess correct first.

still love you man.  god, i'm all giddy now. 

this is your time julian, make the return too.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/7/11/1342014272924/The-Young-Ones-008.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 19, 2012, 07:55:01 pm
Its funny .. Brian Wallace never made much of an impression of me but this Atomicfront guy seems like a tool...

He goes on and on about how great Mumford is.. Mumford this and that yada yada.. FINALLY gets a ticket and then sells it the first chance he has..

 ::)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 19, 2012, 08:54:29 pm
Its funny .. Brian Wallace never made much of an impression of me but this Atomicfront guy seems like a tool...

He goes on and on about how great Mumford is.. Mumford this and that yada yada.. FINALLY gets a ticket and then sells it the first chance he has..

 ::)

I just said that in the current world mumford and sons is better than neil young.  If it weren't valentines day and a couple hours from my house I would go.  My wife is more important than a concert.  Banjo or no banjo.
young. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 19, 2012, 08:56:49 pm
yep

brian

his uber denial . . . gave it away.

damn you.

i wanted to guess correct first.

still love you man.  god, i'm all giddy now. 

this is your time julian, make the return too.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/7/11/1342014272924/The-Young-Ones-008.jpg)

Who is julian?  Guess what brian and julian aren't coming back.  You only have yourselves to blame.....
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 09:30:45 am
Why not take your wife to see Mumford and Sons for Valentines Day?

Its funny .. Brian Wallace never made much of an impression of me but this Atomicfront guy seems like a tool...

He goes on and on about how great Mumford is.. Mumford this and that yada yada.. FINALLY gets a ticket and then sells it the first chance he has..

 ::)

I just said that in the current world mumford and sons is better than neil young.  If it weren't valentines day and a couple hours from my house I would go.  My wife is more important than a concert.  Banjo or no banjo.
young. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 20, 2012, 10:26:35 am
Why not take your wife to see Mumford and Sons for Valentines Day?

Its funny .. Brian Wallace never made much of an impression of me but this Atomicfront guy seems like a tool...

He goes on and on about how great Mumford is.. Mumford this and that yada yada.. FINALLY gets a ticket and then sells it the first chance he has..

 ::)

I just said that in the current world mumford and sons is better than neil young.  If it weren't valentines day and a couple hours from my house I would go.  My wife is more important than a concert.  Banjo or no banjo.
young. 

Because we would have to rush right after work to the concert probably get stuck in beltway traffic and arrive when Mumford is just starting to play.  It won't be very romantic rushing and being stuck in traffic.  If I lived in northern virginia I would have gone.   
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 10:39:40 am
Wow, bless your heart. You're such a slave to convention!

We've both agreed not to celebrate Valentine's Day. Christian origins and Hallmark holiday at present.

It is my five year old's favorite holiday.


Why not take your wife to see Mumford and Sons for Valentines Day?

Its funny .. Brian Wallace never made much of an impression of me but this Atomicfront guy seems like a tool...

He goes on and on about how great Mumford is.. Mumford this and that yada yada.. FINALLY gets a ticket and then sells it the first chance he has..

 ::)

I just said that in the current world mumford and sons is better than neil young.  If it weren't valentines day and a couple hours from my house I would go.  My wife is more important than a concert.  Banjo or no banjo.
young. 

Because we would have to rush right after work to the concert probably get stuck in beltway traffic and arrive when Mumford is just starting to play.  It won't be very romantic rushing and being stuck in traffic.  If I lived in northern virginia I would have gone.   
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 20, 2012, 10:43:25 am
Wow, bless your heart. You're such a slave to convention!

We've both agreed not to celebrate Valentine's Day. Christian origins and Hallmark holiday at present.

It is my five year old's favorite holiday.


Why not take your wife to see Mumford and Sons for Valentines Day?

Its funny .. Brian Wallace never made much of an impression of me but this Atomicfront guy seems like a tool...

He goes on and on about how great Mumford is.. Mumford this and that yada yada.. FINALLY gets a ticket and then sells it the first chance he has..

 ::)

I just said that in the current world mumford and sons is better than neil young.  If it weren't valentines day and a couple hours from my house I would go.  My wife is more important than a concert.  Banjo or no banjo.
young. 

Because we would have to rush right after work to the concert probably get stuck in beltway traffic and arrive when Mumford is just starting to play.  It won't be very romantic rushing and being stuck in traffic.  If I lived in northern virginia I would have gone.   

well you agreed to not to celebrate, how romantic.  I am sure that just pleases your wife so much.  Let me guess you don't buy christmas gifts, birthday gifts, or celebrate your anniversery? 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 10:57:43 am
You guessed wrong on all counts. Though we spell anniversary with two a's.

 :D

Thanksgiving is another story, though.


Wow, bless your heart. You're such a slave to convention!

We've both agreed not to celebrate Valentine's Day. Christian origins and Hallmark holiday at present.

It is my five year old's favorite holiday.


Why not take your wife to see Mumford and Sons for Valentines Day?

Its funny .. Brian Wallace never made much of an impression of me but this Atomicfront guy seems like a tool...

He goes on and on about how great Mumford is.. Mumford this and that yada yada.. FINALLY gets a ticket and then sells it the first chance he has..

 ::)

I just said that in the current world mumford and sons is better than neil young.  If it weren't valentines day and a couple hours from my house I would go.  My wife is more important than a concert.  Banjo or no banjo.
young. 

Because we would have to rush right after work to the concert probably get stuck in beltway traffic and arrive when Mumford is just starting to play.  It won't be very romantic rushing and being stuck in traffic.  If I lived in northern virginia I would have gone.   

well you agreed to not to celebrate, how romantic.  I am sure that just pleases your wife so much.  Let me guess you don't buy christmas gifts, birthday gifts, or celebrate your anniversery? 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 20, 2012, 11:38:33 am
Well why do you care which holidays i celebrate.  People miss concerts because of Easter and Yom Kippur, I don't come on here and tell them they are slaves to religion. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 20, 2012, 12:08:11 pm
Thanks for not taking my job away from me.

Well why do you care which holidays i celebrate.  People miss concerts because of Easter and Yom Kippur, I don't come on here and tell them they are slaves to religion. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 20, 2012, 12:25:56 pm


did the wife put the kibosh on the show? Tell the truth now.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 21, 2012, 02:15:59 pm
So my office has decided to hold our annual holiday party on January 15. Yes, I have a government job and hence that's why it doesn't makes sense.

Don't worry, no tax dollars fund the party...it's potluck held in our office.

First they take the Christ our of Christmas, now they take the Christmas out of Christmas.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 21, 2012, 02:31:24 pm
can you bring good beer?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 21, 2012, 02:35:12 pm
Not allowed to bring alcohol into the building. All belongings go through a scanner (which didn't exist until after 9/11), and all alcohol is confiscated. I've even had (African) secuurity guards try to confiscate bottles of root beer, because they didn't know the difference between root beer and real beer.

I can't even go beer shopping on my lunch hour.

Another example of how the fucking terrorists have won.


can you bring good beer?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 21, 2012, 03:07:21 pm
So my office has decided to hold our annual holiday party on January 15. Yes, I have a government job and hence that's why it doesn't makes sense.

Don't worry, no tax dollars fund the party...it's potluck held in our office.

First they take the Christ our of Christmas, now they take the Christmas out of Christmas.

well i am guessing if they had the holiday office party on christmas day the attendance would be quite low. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on November 21, 2012, 03:27:52 pm
My office is having a Holiday Party  in a couple weeks with free nanny service. Thinking very strongly of

Merry Christmas to me!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 21, 2012, 04:24:07 pm
So my office has decided to hold our annual holiday party on January 15. Yes, I have a government job and hence that's why it doesn't makes sense.

Don't worry, no tax dollars fund the party...it's potluck held in our office.

First they take the Christ our of Christmas, now they take the Christmas out of Christmas.


Glad my tax dollars pay you to post on this board!

 ;D
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 21, 2012, 05:49:15 pm
So my office has decided to hold our annual holiday party on January 15. Yes, I have a government job and hence that's why it doesn't makes sense.

Don't worry, no tax dollars fund the party...it's potluck held in our office.

First they take the Christ our of Christmas, now they take the Christmas out of Christmas.


Glad my tax dollars pay you to post on this board!

 ;D

probably one of the better uses of our funds. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on November 21, 2012, 05:50:32 pm
Do you believe that government employees shouldn't take breaks?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 21, 2012, 05:58:04 pm
Do you believe that government employees shouldn't take breaks?

and just about everyone in the region gets their money from tax dollars. Let's face it if the federal government up and moved to Iowa this area would pretty much an economic wasteland.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 21, 2012, 06:30:08 pm
i enjoy the federal government.  they do things.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on November 23, 2012, 11:10:38 am
Can I take over administration on this site?  Implement some new features?  Like ignore? 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 25, 2012, 04:01:32 pm
Which one of you wrote this? http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/going-beyond-mainstream-schlock/2012/11/22/bc5f0054-329c-11e2-92f0-496af208bf23_story.html?wprss=rss_localopinions
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 25, 2012, 04:29:03 pm
Which one of you wrote this? http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/going-beyond-mainstream-schlock/2012/11/22/bc5f0054-329c-11e2-92f0-496af208bf23_story.html?wprss=rss_localopinions

sounds like it came from the owner of the birchmere.  I have never been there or have heard of any the act the guy mentions.

on a different subject: how about those wizards?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on November 25, 2012, 04:30:59 pm
Of course you haven't.

 The idea that Delbert McClinton, Junior Brown, Dave Alvin, and Sonny Landreth represent some kind of "wide variety" is pretty laughable though.

Which one of you wrote this? http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/going-beyond-mainstream-schlock/2012/11/22/bc5f0054-329c-11e2-92f0-496af208bf23_story.html?wprss=rss_localopinions

sounds like it came from the owner of the birchmere.  I have never been there or have heard of any the act the guy mentions.

on a different subject: how about those wizards?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 25, 2012, 04:46:20 pm
Of course you haven't.

 The idea that Delbert McClinton, Junior Brown, Dave Alvin, and Sonny Landreth represent some kind of "wide variety" is pretty laughable though.

Which one of you wrote this? http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/going-beyond-mainstream-schlock/2012/11/22/bc5f0054-329c-11e2-92f0-496af208bf23_story.html?wprss=rss_localopinions

sounds like it came from the owner of the birchmere.  I have never been there or have heard of any the act the guy mentions.

on a different subject: how about those wizards?

I looked at their upcoming schedule and I have seen 3 of the bands/acts before.  2 of them in one night in january 1985 marshall crenshaw and 10000 maniacs.   But of course this isn't the real 10000 maniacs or they wouldn't be playing the birchmere.  And I saw Ricky Scaggs at the Grand Ole Opery.  Who played with his wife as well in the Whites. 

Most of the acts on the schedule look like they are meant to appeal to baby boomers.  I wouldn't mind seeing Arlo Guthrie if he was doing his own songs but it sounds like he is doing his fathers. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 25, 2012, 11:29:34 pm
I find myself going to more and more shows just to see the opening acts.  Not good.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 26, 2012, 12:50:22 am
I find myself going to more and more shows just to see the opening acts.  Not good.

why? are the headliners fans annoying?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 28, 2012, 12:17:54 pm
I am going to go out on a limb and predict a Wizards victory tonight.  Portland has been on a long road trip.  Nene will be back.  All the signs point to a big win. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on November 28, 2012, 12:37:21 pm
I am going to go out on a limb and predict a Wizards victory tonight.  Portland has been on a long road trip.  Nene will be back.  All the signs point to a big win. 
I'm hoping for the record.  0-19.  If you're gonna lose, lose big.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on November 28, 2012, 01:09:52 pm
I find myself going to more and more shows just to see the opening acts.  Not good.

I always try and catch the openers, you see some great bands that way that you'll probably never see or hear about again. You see some crap for sure, but then you just forget about it. Meanwhile, I'll always remember loving, to name one recently discussed example, the Apes, which I never would've heard otherwise.

Plus, the following were bottom-of-the-bill bands that I've seen in clubs: The Strokes, the Killers, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Jay Reatard, Andrew WK, At the Drive In
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 28, 2012, 08:58:39 pm
Why is there no 33 1/3 Trapped in the Closet book yet? There is enough to write a whole encyclopedia on that work of genius.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on November 28, 2012, 09:16:02 pm
Why is there no 33 1/3 Trapped in the Closet book yet? There is enough to write a whole encyclopedia on that work of genius.


Call for Proposals for the 33 1/3 Series (http://33third.blogspot.com/2012/01/call-for-proposals-for-33-13-series.html)

I think I posted that here, or somewhere. Maybe someone proposed it and got a commission. We'll see.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on November 28, 2012, 09:24:31 pm
Here's the list of titles accepted: (http://www.33third.blogspot.com/2012/08/18-new-titles.html)

Andrew WK: I Get Wet, by Phillip Crandall
Aphex Twin: Selected Ambient Works Vol II, by Marc Weidenbaum
Beach Boys: Smile, by Luis Sanchez
Bjork: Biophilia, by Nicola Dibben
Bobbie Gentry: Ode to Billie Joe, by Tara Murtha
Danger Mouse: The Grey Album, by Charles Fairchild
Dead Kennedys: Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables, by Mike Foley
Devo: Freedom of Choice, by Evie Nagy
Gang of Four: Entertainment! by Kevin Dettmar
Hole: Live Through This, by Anwyn Crawford
J Dilla: Donuts, by Jordan Ferguson
Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, by Kirk Walker Graves
Michael Jackson: Dangerous, by Susan Fast
Oasis: Definitely Maybe, by Alex Niven
Richard Hell and the Voidoids: Blank Generation, by Pete Astor
Serge Gainsbourg: Histoire de Melody Nelson, by Darran Anderson
Sigur Ros: ( ), by Ethan Hayden
They Might Be Giants: Flood, by Alex Reed and Philip Sandifer
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 28, 2012, 09:34:13 pm
I mean it's not an album, but still.
A case can be made.



Some of these should be really good.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on November 29, 2012, 11:56:02 am
I am going to go out on a limb and predict a Wizards victory tonight.  Portland has been on a long road trip.  Nene will be back.  All the signs point to a big win. 

Looks like I was right once again. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on November 29, 2012, 12:24:32 pm
when was the first time
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on November 29, 2012, 03:36:38 pm
Baroness, Kyng, Lo-Pan... Are these bands in a special sub-genre of Metal? Progressive Melodic Metal?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 29, 2012, 07:34:42 pm
when was the first time

when he decided to come back in this alter ego format . . . that actually, i do enjoy.  such talent this one has.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 29, 2012, 07:50:17 pm
Susan Rice's disgusting display after Palestine was recognized today is proof that she is not ready to be Secretary of State.

That old fuck was right. For the wrong reasons but still. I'd be all for blocking her bid.

P.S. Is there a way to change every instance of "John McCain" typed on this board to "that old fuck" in the forum software?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on November 30, 2012, 01:33:28 pm
Quicksand tickets are now on sale.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 30, 2012, 03:52:16 pm
Looks like the Palestinians have finally been invited to the dinner party....even though they have to sit at the kids table.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on November 30, 2012, 04:58:59 pm
Susan Rice's disgusting display after Palestine was recognized today is proof that she is not ready to be Secretary of State.



huh? because she is articulating the administration's policy? that is her job man!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 30, 2012, 09:59:13 pm
I always try and catch the openers, you see some great bands that way that you'll probably never see or hear about again.

This is true.  But I meant that I was only going for an opening act that I happened to like.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 01, 2012, 12:29:53 am
Susan Rice's disgusting display after Palestine was recognized today is proof that she is not ready to be Secretary of State.



huh? because she is articulating the administration's policy? that is her job man!

It went beyond that. It sounded more like the Likud Party policy than anything. I know that this administration has been the worst ever (yes, worse than Reagan and GWB) w/r/t Israel/Palestine but these quotes (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/30/world/middleeast/Palestinian-Authority-United-Nations-Israel.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0) are shameful even for them.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on December 01, 2012, 09:40:34 am
Susan Rice's disgusting display after Palestine was recognized today is proof that she is not ready to be Secretary of State.



huh? because she is articulating the administration's policy? that is her job man!

It went beyond that. It sounded more like the Likud Party policy than anything. I know that this administration has been the worst ever (yes, worse than Reagan and GWB) w/r/t Israel/Palestine but these quotes (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/30/world/middleeast/Palestinian-Authority-United-Nations-Israel.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0) are shameful even for them.


The only Susan Rice quote in the article you cite is this:

?Today?s grand pronouncements will soon fade, and the Palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed, save that the prospects of a durable peace have only receded.?

I think it happens to be correct. I'm not sure what you find so objectionable but in any case I find you not credible on the issue of Palestine/Israel.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 01, 2012, 10:45:00 am
he thinks palestine and israel . . . are two bands he has somehow missed.  somebody must have told him they are playing at dar.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 01, 2012, 11:06:42 am
he thinks palestine and israel . . . are two bands he has somehow missed.  somebody must have told him they are playing at dar.

that made me LOL.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 08, 2012, 02:19:37 pm
Why am I only just finding out about Vintage Trouble... hangs head in shame...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 14, 2012, 10:45:00 am
Belle and Sebastian posts link to 2013 tour dates on the Facebook and their website crashes... Maybe the Mayans were on to something.. 

Wanders over to "Hey Seth"
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 14, 2012, 10:54:25 am
http://www.belleandsebastian.com/news/2013-live-dates-announced

We thought you might like to hear that a plan is forming for the band doing some live shows next summer.  The exact where and when has still to be finalised but our travels will include a trip to Europe to take in some of the fine festivals there.  Also on the table is a visit to North America.  We?ll know more after the holidays so please keep visiting the website for updates.  We?ll bring you the news as soon as we have it.

In the meantime, here are a few of the dates we have confirmed so far:

June 21st ? 23rd Southside Festival, Germany.

June 21st ? 23rd Hurricane Festival, Germany.

July 5th,  International Jazz Festival, Montreal.

August 15th -17th Festival Sonorama, Spain.

August 30th,  End of the Road, North Dorset.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on December 14, 2012, 12:27:43 pm
Belle and Sebastian posts link to 2013 tour dates on the Facebook and their website crashes... Maybe the Mayans were on to something.. 

Wanders over to "Hey Seth"


 
 
Makes me want to go to Montreal Jazz Fest again
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on December 21, 2012, 06:59:38 pm
This sounds like someone who would work in Rhett's office:

Formal Reprimand Issued To Flatulent Federal Worker (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/coworkers-attacked-by-gas-645132)

My favorite line from the article:
"The man was also accused of launching a trio of attacks on September 11."


Yes, I know and understand what the article said about which one is this man but I'm still not certain at all which one is the wife. After all, they did say 'wife', not partner or significant other.

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/sasgasduo1.jpg)

"The SSA worker is pictured with his wife in the above photo, which apparently was taken at an amusement park (yes, he is standing at the left shoulder of someone dressed as Pepe Le Pew)."

Gotta feel sorry for the guy but even sorrier for his co-workers.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 22, 2012, 05:23:32 pm
i feel sorry . . . for his underwear.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 23, 2012, 10:26:00 am
RIP - Joe Strummer

Not sure how true this is?  But it's awesome just the same

When Joe Strummer first told the band?s label, CBS, that they wanted London Calling to be a double album, their request was denied. As compensation The Clash then asked whether they could include a free single with the album. CBS not only complied, but were also conned into agreeing to a 12-inch single that played at 33 1/3 rpm. Accordingly this ?free single? was to become a second nine track LP (sides 3 and 4). By the time CBS realised they?d been duped, it was too late: The Clash issued London Calling as a double LP, retailing at the price of a standard single LP.

Story: Uncut, oct 2004
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on December 23, 2012, 11:24:29 am
RIP - Joe Strummer

Not sure how true this is?  But it's awesome just the same

When Joe Strummer first told the band?s label, CBS, that they wanted London Calling to be a double album, their request was denied. As compensation The Clash then asked whether they could include a free single with the album. CBS not only complied, but were also conned into agreeing to a 12-inch single that played at 33 1/3 rpm. Accordingly this ?free single? was to become a second nine track LP (sides 3 and 4). By the time CBS realised they?d been duped, it was too late: The Clash issued London Calling as a double LP, retailing at the price of a standard single LP.

Story: Uncut, oct 2004


interesting... hard to believe though..after all how could a single be a nine track lp?...i guess i could see it though.. whoever they were negotiating didn't realize the cost would be same in the end..


i have a friend who was really observing strummer's 10 year deathversary yesterday...

i didn't have time to do much other than think about it.. also read a letter strummer wrote praising springsteen..

at some point i'll dig out my london calling US white label...

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on December 23, 2012, 06:19:16 pm
RIP - Joe Strummer

Not sure how true this is?  But it's awesome just the same

When Joe Strummer first told the band?s label, CBS, that they wanted London Calling to be a double album, their request was denied. As compensation The Clash then asked whether they could include a free single with the album. CBS not only complied, but were also conned into agreeing to a 12-inch single that played at 33 1/3 rpm. Accordingly this ?free single? was to become a second nine track LP (sides 3 and 4). By the time CBS realised they?d been duped, it was too late: The Clash issued London Calling as a double LP, retailing at the price of a standard single LP.

Story: Uncut, oct 2004


I don't buy this as being true as didn't they have a triple album?  And I find it hard to believe Joe Strummer could be smart enough to trick a record company but stupid enough to kick the guy with all the talent out of the clash. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on December 24, 2012, 12:54:48 pm
the dad of Matt Bellamy (of Muse) was in a band called the Tornado's.  The Tornado's were the first british band to have a number one hit in the US.  That song sound like Muse.  Very Funny.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on December 24, 2012, 03:10:22 pm
the dad of Matt Bellamy (of Muse) was in a band called the Tornado's.  The Tornado's were the first british band to have a number one hit in the US.  That song sound like Muse.  Very Funny.

Was it "Telestar"? I've always loved that song. Don't hear Muse in it at all but maybe you're hearing something that I'm not.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on December 26, 2012, 04:35:53 pm
RIP - Joe Strummer

Not sure how true this is?  But it's awesome just the same

When Joe Strummer first told the band?s label, CBS, that they wanted London Calling to be a double album, their request was denied. As compensation The Clash then asked whether they could include a free single with the album. CBS not only complied, but were also conned into agreeing to a 12-inch single that played at 33 1/3 rpm. Accordingly this ?free single? was to become a second nine track LP (sides 3 and 4). By the time CBS realised they?d been duped, it was too late: The Clash issued London Calling as a double LP, retailing at the price of a standard single LP.

Story: Uncut, oct 2004


I don't buy this as being true as didn't they have a triple album?  And I find it hard to believe Joe Strummer could be smart enough to trick a record company but stupid enough to kick the guy with all the talent out of the clash. 

the triple album- sandinista- came after london calling .. london calling earned them leverage they did not have coming off of give 'em enough rope
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 26, 2012, 04:59:34 pm
and besides it was well known at the time that The Clash took a cut in royalties or whatever in order to get  Sandinsta out as a triple album.   and it was ego, drugs, personality clashes, etc that lead to the ouster of Mick Jones from The Clash.  Right before Joe's death the reconciliation had occurred between him and Mick.   
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on December 26, 2012, 05:50:28 pm
and besides it was well known at the time that The Clash took a cut in royalties or whatever in order to get  Sandinsta out as a triple album.   and it was ego, drugs, personality clashes, etc that lead to the ouster of Mick Jones from The Clash.  Right before Joe's death the reconciliation had occurred between him and Mick.   

i don't really  mind that mick jones was kicked out of the clash.  I like the big audio dynamite stuff better than the clash. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 04, 2013, 11:49:14 am
People who consider grafitti to be "art" likely are people who don't have children.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on January 04, 2013, 12:18:51 pm
I don't care for grafitti to be considered "art". It makes me very uncomfortable and I don't care for it.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 04, 2013, 12:28:58 pm
i think the people who are grafitti artists . . . make him nervous.  most good artists do that.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on January 04, 2013, 12:41:43 pm
People who consider grafitti to be "art" likely are people who don't have children.
haha, Graffiti isnt art?

So using paint to create an image isnt art?  What is art?  Im glad you can judge others taste and perception about what is art, based solely upon one's status in regards to having children.

Is music made solely on a computer not "art" to you? 

Is Free Verse poetry not art because it doesnt rhyme? 

Im curious as to why you want to put down a group of artists as creating non art.

Maybe I misread your post. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on January 04, 2013, 12:43:51 pm
Graffitti art is definitely art.  Whether it is quality art will depend on whom is doing it.  Most of it is not very good.  But that is probably true of all art created.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Geoff Leppard on January 04, 2013, 02:11:52 pm
Cool "Disco" Dan may have something to say about this.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 16, 2013, 01:53:04 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g16/beetsnotbeats/IMG_1460_zpsbb2943aa.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 17, 2013, 10:28:17 am
you know . . . i was going through the tmz and i saw this story and i thought what is up with famous music people setting their hair on fire and stuff, but what i really thought was look at that second picture where the dj person is laughing it off.  that guy.  that guy behind him.  he's at a skrillex show?

http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/17/skrillex-hair-fire-birthday-hollywood-video/
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on January 20, 2013, 09:42:19 am
It is about time to abolish the use of religious texts in swearing in ceremonies, no?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 20, 2013, 10:11:22 am
but isn't religion and politics the same thing . . . they both are ruined by money and survive by control
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on January 21, 2013, 02:54:13 am
http://hypetrak.com/2013/01/lupe-fiasco-removed-from-stage-after-anti-barack-obama-comments/
Was anyone at this?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on January 21, 2013, 08:15:36 am
How could anybody remotely familiar with his political views sign off on his playing a show having to do with an Obama inaugural?
For the record, I agree with most of said views but he has proven himself time and again to be an attention whore more than anything. If he was not, he would have declined the invite. Idiot.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on January 21, 2013, 11:39:58 am
As the king is reappointed more US citizens are killed overseas and nothing is done.  I can only imagine it is because since they are now dead they can no longer vote for him so why bother.  Thank god we have no more than four years left of this fucking douche bag as our imperial leader.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on January 21, 2013, 12:21:02 pm
That might be your most disingenuous post ever.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 21, 2013, 12:45:59 pm
As the king is reappointed more US citizens are killed overseas and nothing is done.  I can only imagine it is because since they are now dead they can no longer vote for him so why bother.  Thank god we have no more than four years left of this fucking douche bag as our imperial leader.

Happy Inauguration Day to you, too!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on January 21, 2013, 01:01:33 pm
That might be your most disingenuous post ever.



Dangerous?  how so?  It is 100% factual and accurate.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on January 21, 2013, 01:01:55 pm
As the king is reappointed more US citizens are killed overseas and nothing is done.  I can only imagine it is because since they are now dead they can no longer vote for him so why bother.  Thank god we have no more than four years left of this fucking douche bag as our imperial leader.

Happy Inauguration Day to you, too!


Thank you!  :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on January 21, 2013, 01:54:28 pm
That might be your most disingenuous post ever.


Complaining about people dying in wars that your party started, and whining about the handling of an economy that your party ruined, and being outraged at do-nothing politics when your party is the one refusing to compromise, is exactly what ignorant traitors to this country like Ratbastard do.

Rather than take responsibility for their mistakes and petty actions, they blame others and call them silly nicknames because people like Ratbastard revel in their ignorance. It's so much easier to be ignorant and call the president whacky names and point fingers and talk about how everything always is their fault. Ratbastard, do you ever stop and think about how your actions and the actions of those aligned with your point of view prevent the country from moving forward?

Haha that was a trick question, of course you would never do that because you're incapable of intelligent thought. This country would be so much better off without lazy, ignorant people like you. It's really incredible to think about.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on January 21, 2013, 02:10:31 pm
That might be your most disingenuous post ever.


Complaining about people dying in wars that your party started, and whining about the handling of an economy that your party ruined, and being outraged at do-nothing politics when your party is the one refusing to compromise, is exactly what ignorant traitors to this country like Ratbastard do.

Rather than take responsibility for their mistakes and petty actions, they blame others and call them silly nicknames because people like Ratbastard revel in their ignorance. It's so much easier to be ignorant and call the president whacky names and point fingers and talk about how everything always is their fault. Ratbastard, do you ever stop and think about how your actions and the actions of those aligned with your point of view prevent the country from moving forward?

Haha that was a trick question, of course you would never do that because you're incapable of intelligent thought. This country would be so much better off without lazy, ignorant people like you. It's really incredible to think about.

1) I don't have a party.  I vote for the person not the arbitrary label next to his name.

2) Bammy has been king for over four years now.  If he wanted said war stopped he should have stopped it by now.

3) Again I have no party, but Bammy is the one who continues to spend money we don't have on 'feel good' issues that do nothing for the country but put us further in debt.

4) Bammy has been king for four years and has accomplished nothing and just blames others for everything that has gone wrong under his rule.

5) Actions like being a working productive member of society rather than someone who leaches off of the working man?  Someone who votes for someone because they have real leaderships abilities rather than giving free shit to lazy people?  Someone who understands that encourages the country to be divisive is a bad thing?  Someone who actually takes personal responsibility for his action rather than blame it on society, an inanimate object, or everyone else?  Yeah well if that is what makes one ignorant color me so.

6) Still none of that makes my post unfactual or untrue and it surely does nto make it 'dangerous'...

Next...

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on January 21, 2013, 02:15:00 pm
He never said Dangerous, by the way.  He called your post disingenuous. 

Also, what are these 'feel good' issues you are talking about?  Easier access to Health Care for all? 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on January 21, 2013, 02:17:25 pm
He never said Dangerous, by the way.  He called your post disingenuous. 

Also, what are these 'feel good' issues you are talking about?  Easier access to Health Care for all? 

LOL that is my dyslexia kicking in.  I could have sworn that he said dangerous! :)

Two problems with your example though...

1) Easier (not)
2) For all (not)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on January 21, 2013, 02:18:41 pm
He never said Dangerous, by the way.  He called your post disingenuous. 

Also, what are these 'feel good' issues you are talking about?  Easier access to Health Care for all? 

Although I do assure you that the post was said with all sincerity, candor, and frankness available.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: nkotb on January 21, 2013, 02:58:51 pm
True...unless you make yourself DICTATOR FOR LIFE, your monarchy-loving, freedom-hating fuckwad!!!!!

(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/720835472.gif?key=488275&Expires=1358795512&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=zPpNpMiVV9kaTjyQsQ57yvklVge9ojwpt2sztq9ERJTffzfNwpTJdVD-LnKBTrbWo2yp4qf--5LIBdyuJSiNWtvyjfBKkvGtyyFk9dPL-yLZNw1a77NnXfD2sYLKfRyx8biF70Yy1AgZhVFVx6ZZBdJ5XQBw68Oc3lVioL8WeLE_)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on January 21, 2013, 03:49:04 pm
True...unless you make yourself DICTATOR FOR LIFE, your monarchy-loving, freedom-hating fuckwad!!!!!

(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/720835472.gif?key=488275&Expires=1358795512&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=zPpNpMiVV9kaTjyQsQ57yvklVge9ojwpt2sztq9ERJTffzfNwpTJdVD-LnKBTrbWo2yp4qf--5LIBdyuJSiNWtvyjfBKkvGtyyFk9dPL-yLZNw1a77NnXfD2sYLKfRyx8biF70Yy1AgZhVFVx6ZZBdJ5XQBw68Oc3lVioL8WeLE_)

I would be winning to wager that the thought has crossed his mind.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 22, 2013, 04:26:12 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBO9O8CCQAAYVFD.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 22, 2013, 05:23:07 pm
is seth really that short?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 22, 2013, 05:36:30 pm
is seth really that short?

He's sitting at the counter.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on January 22, 2013, 05:46:53 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBO9O8CCQAAYVFD.jpg)

Great pic of morgan freeman!  :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 26, 2013, 09:01:42 am
Tim Burgess relayed this story on twitter...

There was quite a crowd as I left the BBC. A girl asked if it would be OK for a photo. I said "Of course it would" She said "Great!"...she handed me her camera and she went and stood with Jarvis who I hadn't noticed was there. I took the photo and she said "thanks mister
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on January 26, 2013, 10:51:30 pm
n
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on January 26, 2013, 10:53:22 pm
Tim Burgess relayed this story on twitter...

There was quite a crowd as I left the BBC. A girl asked if it would be OK for a photo. I said "Of course it would" She said "Great!"...she handed me her camera and she went and stood with Jarvis who I hadn't noticed was there. I took the photo and she said "thanks mister


Does he mean Jarvis Cocker?  Anyway someone might recognized Tim if he didn't hae that ridiculous dye job.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on January 29, 2013, 08:55:49 am
Shit, that Chris Brown sure is one badass nigga, aint he?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 05, 2013, 01:28:01 pm
Friend just texts me:

friend: Have you heard of Foxygen

me:  yeah, Bob Dylan rip-off

friend: yeah and lou reed

me: they are playing Golden West

friend: let's go.


Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 05, 2013, 01:59:03 pm
i don't believe your friends . . . exist either.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 05, 2013, 02:47:52 pm
i don't believe your friends . . . exist either.

so you are saying you don't believe I exist?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 05, 2013, 03:49:43 pm
only . . . on paper.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 05, 2013, 04:05:25 pm
I love Walkies' comma placements.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 05, 2013, 04:17:30 pm
only . . . on paper.

strange theory. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Jaguar on February 05, 2013, 04:27:44 pm
only . . . on paper.

Atomicfront

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/shakespeares_sister/shakes6/Neo-Bullets-The-Matrix.jpg)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on February 05, 2013, 05:14:55 pm
why cant these idiots put the trash in the can?  Its empty. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 07, 2013, 12:34:00 am
In the long line of "here's proof there is no such thing as free", there is yet one more way you will be apying for your "free' healthcare!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/06/jail-time-for-food-labels/
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 07, 2013, 08:16:42 am
You linked an article on Fox. Lollerskates.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 07, 2013, 10:35:01 am
You linked an article on Fox. Lollerskates.


America's Least Trusted News? (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/02/4th-annual-tv-news-trust-poll.html). Like all hard working Americans, they've earned it.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 07, 2013, 10:39:56 am
You linked an article on Fox. Lollerskates.


America's Least Trusted News? (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/02/4th-annual-tv-news-trust-poll.html). Like all hard working Americans, they've earned it.

the funny thing is that MSNBC is actually the one that has the most biased stories on their network. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on February 07, 2013, 10:43:01 am
1) How is that funny?
2) What are you basing this on?
3) Are there any other dumb facts you shall be pulling out of your ass?
4) Do you understand that anecdotal evidence is not really evidence?
5) No one cares.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 07, 2013, 10:51:59 am
1) How is that funny?
2) What are you basing this on?
3) Are there any other dumb facts you shall be pulling out of your ass?
4) Do you understand that anecdotal evidence is not really evidence?
5) No one cares.

I guess ironic would have been a better word.  There have been articles on this and posted on here.  You don't care that something that is actually related to what you have posted?  MSNBC being more biased than FOX news is something that everyone should know.  You really shouldn't rely on either.  And both networks are just broadcasting biased news that their viewers wish was the truth. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 07, 2013, 11:01:55 am
i used to be a slave to rachael maddow.  she is so smart . . . and yes, gay.  but good god she is a biased as rush.  you know why the ratings of cnn are going through the shitter.  because they don't take sides and don't offer america what america feeds off of:  scandal.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on February 07, 2013, 11:09:22 am
What is Fox's equivalent of MSNBC's The Morning Joe, hosted by the very conservative Joe Scarborough, formerly a sergeant in Newt Gingrich's 1994 class of House conservatives?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 07, 2013, 11:27:38 am
don't you talk about my morning joe.  they have cute people there.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on February 07, 2013, 11:36:14 am
I'm not criticizing the show, though Joe Scarborough is a dickhead conservative prick who pushed MIGHTILY to deny basic human rights to the working class when he was in the House.

I'm saying that MSNBC, which does lean left, has a highly promoted program hosted by an establishment conservative. Does Fox News have a highly promoted program hosted by a liberal?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on February 07, 2013, 11:39:27 am
I don't have a problem with this being in Obamacare...it won't affect mom and pop stores/restaurants...only businesses with 20 locations or more (at least as I have read it).  I think it's a good thing for people to know the # of calories in their chocolate thunder from down under or their Safeway deli macaroni salad.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 07, 2013, 02:23:06 pm
Chocolate Thunder from Down Under is the funniest dessert name ever.


CNN have their own issues; like the fact that they talk about Hollywood gossip more than, you know, real things.


Maddow is as biased as Rush but I have never heard her tell an outright lie the way Rush does. She also wears her bias on her sleeve unlike Fox who attempt to pose as a "fair and balanced" news network. Matthews, Sharpton, Schulz (SP?) and Scarborough are all hacks who do not belong on news networks, though.
I would love to see Ezra Klein replace one of the liberals listed there.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on February 07, 2013, 02:30:49 pm
Sharpton was at my office yesterday.  Guy is an incredibly engaging speaker.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 07, 2013, 02:37:13 pm
I don't think it translates very well on TV.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 07, 2013, 02:51:19 pm
what was he doing at your office . . . calling all white people, the devil?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 07, 2013, 03:18:09 pm
Dunno about all that but he and the others I listed are as grossly supportive of whatever Obama does as the Fox "reporters" were with regard to Bush. I see Maddow criticize Obama all the time. Especially with regard to this drone craziness.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on February 07, 2013, 03:34:22 pm
I would hope most rational human beings would be upset with "this drone craziness."
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 07, 2013, 03:41:57 pm
As would I. But many of their other pundits are fine with it.


If there is a reason to watch MSNBC, it is Chris Hayes. (http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/50733230#50733096)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on February 07, 2013, 03:59:09 pm
what was he doing at your office . . . calling all white people, the devil?

No...he was talking about the history of civil rights movement as it relates to the labor movement.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on February 07, 2013, 04:00:23 pm
I would hope most rational human beings would be upset with "this drone craziness."

Quote
all the polling data on drones (of which there is surprisingly little) shows that Americans really love their flying autonomous death robots. A whopping 83 percent of Americans approve of the Obama administration?s use of the aircraft to kill terrorists, according to the most recent Washington Post/ABC News poll on the subject, from February 2012. The same poll found that 65 percent of Americans favor the use of drones against American citizens suspected of terrorism overseas.

But it gets worse. Among self-described liberal Democrats, fully 77 percent endorse the use of drones against terrorist targets. On the question of killing Americans in drone strikes, Democrats approved of the use 58-33 percent, as did liberals, 55-35 percent, as the Post?s Greg Sargent pointed out last year.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 07, 2013, 04:34:20 pm
relaxer, he did say "rational".
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on February 07, 2013, 04:42:10 pm
Well that's true, but as I say to my wife all the time "When you think everyone is wrong, chances are you're the one not right" or something like that.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on February 07, 2013, 04:42:36 pm
Trust me, it sounds much more eloquent when I say it out loud. I mean seriously, shit is moving.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 07, 2013, 04:44:25 pm
Well that's true, but as I say to my wife all the time "When you think everyone is wrong, chances are you're the one not right" or something like that.

So you are saying Lumineers are an awesome band.  We are on the same page for once. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Relaxer on February 07, 2013, 04:53:48 pm
Yes we are on the same page because look there's one of my posts above yours and look here's another right below.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 07, 2013, 04:57:10 pm
You linked an article on Fox. Lollerskates.


So now we can not only post facts we can't link to them either?  Ah yes the fall back of left wing nut jobs everywhere, 'please don't muddy up my absurd theory with actual real world facts'...  LOL indeed.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 07, 2013, 05:02:47 pm
i used to be a slave to rachael maddow.  she is so smart . . . and yes, gay.  but good god she is a biased as rush.  you know why the ratings of cnn are going through the shitter.  because they don't take sides and don't offer america what america feeds off of:  scandal.

Madow does not do news.  She is a poor example of a political humorist at best.  In fact she is the absolute most extreme biased person on any TV show I have ever seen.  (On radio that honor goes to Michael Savage, wow is he a nut job).  The sad part is that many folks listen to Madow and actually she is 'reporting' anything at all and saying anything that is based even remotely on facts.  Boils down to that she is your typical libtard, ignore reality and laugh your way through your 15 minutes.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 07, 2013, 05:02:52 pm
Relaxer as usual wins...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 07, 2013, 05:04:05 pm
I'm not criticizing the show, though Joe Scarborough is a dickhead conservative prick who pushed MIGHTILY to deny basic human rights to the working class when he was in the House.

I'm saying that MSNBC, which does lean left, has a highly promoted program hosted by an establishment conservative. Does Fox News have a highly promoted program hosted by a liberal?

Saying MSNBC leans to the left is like saying Hitler did some bad stuff.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 07, 2013, 05:07:05 pm
I don't have a problem with this being in Obamacare...it won't affect mom and pop stores/restaurants...only businesses with 20 locations or more (at least as I have read it).  I think it's a good thing for people to know the # of calories in their chocolate thunder from down under or their Safeway deli macaroni salad.


So you don't mind paying for your free healthcare!  YEAH!!!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on February 07, 2013, 05:13:10 pm
I don't have a problem with this being in Obamacare...it won't affect mom and pop stores/restaurants...only businesses with 20 locations or more (at least as I have read it).  I think it's a good thing for people to know the # of calories in their chocolate thunder from down under or their Safeway deli macaroni salad.


So you don't mind paying for your free healthcare!  YEAH!!!

yeah that's totally what i'm saying.  you nailed it.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 07, 2013, 05:52:24 pm
I don't have a problem with this being in Obamacare...it won't affect mom and pop stores/restaurants...only businesses with 20 locations or more (at least as I have read it).  I think it's a good thing for people to know the # of calories in their chocolate thunder from down under or their Safeway deli macaroni salad.


So you don't mind paying for your free healthcare!  YEAH!!!

yeah that's totally what i'm saying.  you nailed it.

:)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 07, 2013, 05:54:33 pm
I don't have a problem with this being in Obamacare...it won't affect mom and pop stores/restaurants...only businesses with 20 locations or more (at least as I have read it).  I think it's a good thing for people to know the # of calories in their chocolate thunder from down under or their Safeway deli macaroni salad.

WAIT A MINUTE!  What about grocery store equality?  Come on now it is just basic rights and fairness that all grocery stores be treated equally! 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 07, 2013, 05:54:54 pm
Entertaining exchange between Rubio and Brennon a bit ago.

This hearing has been softballapalooza so far.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on February 07, 2013, 06:18:39 pm
Entertaining exchange between Rubio and Brennon a bit ago.

This hearing has been softballapalooza so far.



Rubio Rubio Rubio is all I hear these days..what is going on?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 07, 2013, 06:31:56 pm
The Republicans think he is their Messiah or something now. But my post was in reference to the CIA head confirmation hearing.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 07, 2013, 07:24:54 pm
blame cuba

and that sandwich is awful too.  plus mark cuban is a jerk.  and whatever happened to cuba gooding jr?
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 08, 2013, 09:58:35 am
David Brooks: Florence and the Machine fan? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/opinion/brooks-florence-and-the-drones.html?ref=opinion&_r=0
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 08, 2013, 10:47:06 am
David Brooks: Florence and the Machine fan? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/opinion/brooks-florence-and-the-drones.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

This has nothing to do with Florence and the Machine.  Thanks for wasting my time.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Geoff Leppard on February 08, 2013, 11:54:37 am
blame cuba

and that sandwich is awful too.  plus mark cuban is a jerk.  and whatever happened to cuba gooding jr?

We had parties on two consecutive weekends.  I made reubens for the first, and cubans for the second.  And while I'm still a big fan of cubans, I'd have to say I vastly prefer the reubens.  Of course, I corned my own beef, so I was feeling the love.  Reubens over Cubans!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on February 08, 2013, 12:42:56 pm
David Brooks: Florence and the Machine fan? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/opinion/brooks-florence-and-the-drones.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

This has nothing to do with Florence and the Machine.  Thanks for wasting my time.
He didnt say it did, he was pointing out that the author made an homage to the group's name in the title of his article.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 08, 2013, 01:01:25 pm
David Brooks: Florence and the Machine fan? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/opinion/brooks-florence-and-the-drones.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

This has nothing to do with Florence and the Machine.  Thanks for wasting my time.
He didnt say it did, he was pointing out that the author made an homage to the group's name in the title of his article.

This.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 08, 2013, 01:04:15 pm
David Brooks: Florence and the Machine fan? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/opinion/brooks-florence-and-the-drones.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

This has nothing to do with Florence and the Machine.  Thanks for wasting my time.
He didnt say it did, he was pointing out that the author made an homage to the group's name in the title of his article.

This.


lame trying to get me to read some boring article by tempting me with mentioning florence and the machine. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 08, 2013, 01:52:12 pm
it's your own damn fault for being so guillible and easily led... "oh, look, florence and da machine - IZ POPULAAR MUST FOLLOW!!!1111".
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 08, 2013, 01:52:29 pm
:)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 08, 2013, 02:28:06 pm
it's your own damn fault for being so guillible and easily led... "oh, look, florence and da machine - IZ POPULAAR MUST FOLLOW!!!1111".

nothing to do with popular I just love her music.  If he had put Best Coast i would have followed as well.  You do know I like these bands before they are popular, don't you? 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 08, 2013, 09:29:40 pm
best coast =  blech
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 12, 2013, 01:03:55 pm
Wrestling is cut from the olympics.  I think we can all agree this is a good thing. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 12, 2013, 01:57:24 pm
Wrestling is cut from the olympics.  I think we can all agree this is a good thing. 

how is that a good thing?  olympic wrestling is a real sport, and it's one of the originals - ancient greeks wrestled. 

i can't see how eliminating a sport is a good thing.  if you don't like it, fine, don't watch.  those who have spent years training in hopes of making it to the olympics are about to be very disappointed.

QUOTE:
"In recent years, however, the I.O.C. has expressed concern about the growing size of the Summer Games and has wanted to cap the number of athletes at about 10,500. It has also said it wants to draw younger viewers among the international television audience. Among the sports that wrestling must compete with for future inclusion in the Games are climbing and wakeboarding."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/sports/olympics-may-drop-wrestling-in-2020.html

awesome  ::)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 12, 2013, 02:12:26 pm
Wrestling is cut from the olympics.  I think we can all agree this is a good thing. 

how is that a good thing?  olympic wrestling is a real sport, and it's one of the originals - ancient greeks wrestled. 

i can't see how eliminating a sport is a good thing.  if you don't like it, fine, don't watch.  those who have spent years training in hopes of making it to the olympics are about to be very disappointed.

QUOTE:
"In recent years, however, the I.O.C. has expressed concern about the growing size of the Summer Games and has wanted to cap the number of athletes at about 10,500. It has also said it wants to draw younger viewers among the international television audience. Among the sports that wrestling must compete with for future inclusion in the Games are climbing and wakeboarding."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/sports/olympics-may-drop-wrestling-in-2020.html

awesome  ::)

I just remember all the kids in high school who had to lose weight by not eating for days so they could wrestle.  That doesn't sound healthy.   Climbing sounds like something that might actually be interesting to watch. They can eliminate boxing as well as that is all rigged anyways. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 12, 2013, 02:16:54 pm
So my favorite holiday of the year is coming up.  So anyone doing anything interesting for valentines day? 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on February 12, 2013, 02:19:11 pm
Wrestling is cut from the olympics.  I think we can all agree this is a good thing. 

how is that a good thing?  olympic wrestling is a real sport, and it's one of the originals - ancient greeks wrestled. 

i can't see how eliminating a sport is a good thing.  if you don't like it, fine, don't watch.  those who have spent years training in hopes of making it to the olympics are about to be very disappointed.

QUOTE:
"In recent years, however, the I.O.C. has expressed concern about the growing size of the Summer Games and has wanted to cap the number of athletes at about 10,500. It has also said it wants to draw younger viewers among the international television audience. Among the sports that wrestling must compete with for future inclusion in the Games are climbing and wakeboarding."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/sports/olympics-may-drop-wrestling-in-2020.html

awesome  ::)

ending wrestling at the olympics is insane.. if you're going to end something end something like tennis or one of the highly professional sports like soccer.. sports that have no business being in the olympics...

it is precisely a sport like wrestling that the olympics should be all about. a sport that as far as i know is largely amateur and doesn't have much visibility outside the olympics...

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 12, 2013, 02:25:26 pm
Wrestling is cut from the olympics.  I think we can all agree this is a good thing. 

how is that a good thing?  olympic wrestling is a real sport, and it's one of the originals - ancient greeks wrestled. 

i can't see how eliminating a sport is a good thing.  if you don't like it, fine, don't watch.  those who have spent years training in hopes of making it to the olympics are about to be very disappointed.

QUOTE:
"In recent years, however, the I.O.C. has expressed concern about the growing size of the Summer Games and has wanted to cap the number of athletes at about 10,500. It has also said it wants to draw younger viewers among the international television audience. Among the sports that wrestling must compete with for future inclusion in the Games are climbing and wakeboarding."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/sports/olympics-may-drop-wrestling-in-2020.html

awesome  ::)

ending wrestling at the olympics is insane.. if you're going to end something end something like tennis or one of the highly professional sports like soccer.. sports that have no business being in the olympics...

it is precisely a sport like wrestling that the olympics should be all about. a sport that as far as i know is largely amateur and doesn't have much visibility outside the olympics...



I agree about Tennis and Soccer.  Tennis these guys play each other all the time.  As for Soccer you have the world cup.   Baseball would be interesting if mlb would let their players play.

Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 12, 2013, 02:30:37 pm
So my favorite holiday of the year is coming up.  So anyone doing anything interesting for valentines day? 

I was born on 11/14, exactly nine months to the day after 02/14 (aka Valentine's Day).  Every year on my birthday I told my mom "Happy Valentine's Day".  It wasn't until a year or two before she passed away that she figured it out.  Actually, I still tell her.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 12, 2013, 02:33:23 pm
Wrestling is cut from the olympics.  I think we can all agree this is a good thing. 

how is that a good thing?  olympic wrestling is a real sport, and it's one of the originals - ancient greeks wrestled. 

i can't see how eliminating a sport is a good thing.  if you don't like it, fine, don't watch.  those who have spent years training in hopes of making it to the olympics are about to be very disappointed.

QUOTE:
"In recent years, however, the I.O.C. has expressed concern about the growing size of the Summer Games and has wanted to cap the number of athletes at about 10,500. It has also said it wants to draw younger viewers among the international television audience. Among the sports that wrestling must compete with for future inclusion in the Games are climbing and wakeboarding."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/sports/olympics-may-drop-wrestling-in-2020.html

awesome  ::)

ending wrestling at the olympics is insane.. if you're going to end something end something like tennis or one of the highly professional sports like soccer.. sports that have no business being in the olympics...

it is precisely a sport like wrestling that the olympics should be all about. a sport that as far as i know is largely amateur and doesn't have much visibility outside the olympics...



Agreed.  IMHO the Olympics should be 100% amateurs always.  I much prefer the traditional events, especially track and field. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 12, 2013, 02:34:46 pm
Wrestling is cut from the olympics.  I think we can all agree this is a good thing. 

how is that a good thing?  olympic wrestling is a real sport, and it's one of the originals - ancient greeks wrestled. 

i can't see how eliminating a sport is a good thing.  if you don't like it, fine, don't watch.  those who have spent years training in hopes of making it to the olympics are about to be very disappointed.

QUOTE:
"In recent years, however, the I.O.C. has expressed concern about the growing size of the Summer Games and has wanted to cap the number of athletes at about 10,500. It has also said it wants to draw younger viewers among the international television audience. Among the sports that wrestling must compete with for future inclusion in the Games are climbing and wakeboarding."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/sports/olympics-may-drop-wrestling-in-2020.html

awesome  ::)

ending wrestling at the olympics is insane.. if you're going to end something end something like tennis or one of the highly professional sports like soccer.. sports that have no business being in the olympics...

it is precisely a sport like wrestling that the olympics should be all about. a sport that as far as i know is largely amateur and doesn't have much visibility outside the olympics...



I agree about Tennis and Soccer.  Tennis these guys play each other all the time.  As for Soccer you have the world cup.   Baseball would be interesting if mlb would let their players play.



All men's tennis is any more is who can serve the hardest.  They should add a new fault on service for exceeding the maximum allowable serve speed.  Force these guys to REALLY learn the entire game.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on February 12, 2013, 02:46:14 pm
Wrestling is cut from the olympics.  I think we can all agree this is a good thing. 

how is that a good thing?  olympic wrestling is a real sport, and it's one of the originals - ancient greeks wrestled. 

i can't see how eliminating a sport is a good thing.  if you don't like it, fine, don't watch.  those who have spent years training in hopes of making it to the olympics are about to be very disappointed.

QUOTE:
"In recent years, however, the I.O.C. has expressed concern about the growing size of the Summer Games and has wanted to cap the number of athletes at about 10,500. It has also said it wants to draw younger viewers among the international television audience. Among the sports that wrestling must compete with for future inclusion in the Games are climbing and wakeboarding."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/sports/olympics-may-drop-wrestling-in-2020.html

awesome  ::)

ending wrestling at the olympics is insane.. if you're going to end something end something like tennis or one of the highly professional sports like soccer.. sports that have no business being in the olympics...

it is precisely a sport like wrestling that the olympics should be all about. a sport that as far as i know is largely amateur and doesn't have much visibility outside the olympics...



I agree about Tennis and Soccer.  Tennis these guys play each other all the time.  As for Soccer you have the world cup.   Baseball would be interesting if mlb would let their players play.



All men's tennis is any more is who can serve the hardest.  They should add a new fault on service for exceeding the maximum allowable serve speed.  Force these guys to REALLY learn the entire game.
brilliant idea
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 12, 2013, 03:01:49 pm
Wrestling is cut from the olympics.  I think we can all agree this is a good thing. 

how is that a good thing?  olympic wrestling is a real sport, and it's one of the originals - ancient greeks wrestled. 

i can't see how eliminating a sport is a good thing.  if you don't like it, fine, don't watch.  those who have spent years training in hopes of making it to the olympics are about to be very disappointed.

QUOTE:
"In recent years, however, the I.O.C. has expressed concern about the growing size of the Summer Games and has wanted to cap the number of athletes at about 10,500. It has also said it wants to draw younger viewers among the international television audience. Among the sports that wrestling must compete with for future inclusion in the Games are climbing and wakeboarding."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/sports/olympics-may-drop-wrestling-in-2020.html

awesome  ::)

ending wrestling at the olympics is insane.. if you're going to end something end something like tennis or one of the highly professional sports like soccer.. sports that have no business being in the olympics...

it is precisely a sport like wrestling that the olympics should be all about. a sport that as far as i know is largely amateur and doesn't have much visibility outside the olympics...



I agree about Tennis and Soccer.  Tennis these guys play each other all the time.  As for Soccer you have the world cup.   Baseball would be interesting if mlb would let their players play.



All men's tennis is any more is who can serve the hardest.  They should add a new fault on service for exceeding the maximum allowable serve speed.  Force these guys to REALLY learn the entire game.

or you could just make them use wooden rackets again. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 12, 2013, 03:33:14 pm
or you could stop caring about what is shown on tv.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 13, 2013, 05:49:25 pm
So Bjork was trying to raise 600,000 dollars on kickstarter.  She shut it down because she only raised 20k and I guess it was embarrasing for her.  How do I know about this?  Amanda Palmer blogged about it. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 13, 2013, 07:54:58 pm
kick starter is for video games.  they invented it.  they control it.  the end.  no not the end.  bjork needs to get off her ass and put out some good fucking music for a change.  the hyena screech owl bullshit she puts out needs to stop.  bjork is very talented and tries too fucking hard.  appease the fans for a change and stop making it all about you.  fucking bjork and her craziness.  did not anybody tell her that kickstarter, outside of video games . . . is desperation, a cry for help.  intervention time.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 13, 2013, 08:03:07 pm
Went to the eye doctor yesterday to get new glasses.  he gave me some eye drops for dryness I have been having as a result of the meds I am taking for the neurological issues I have.  Today I could not find the eye drops and looked for them for about 20-30 minutes before heading out for lunch around 1:00.  Just now at 7:00 I found the eye drops... in my jeans pocket!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on February 13, 2013, 09:41:42 pm
Went to the eye doctor yesterday to get new glasses.  he gave me some eye drops for dryness I have been having as a result of the meds I am taking for the neurological issues I have.  Today I could not find the eye drops and looked for them for about 20-30 minutes before heading out for lunch around 1:00.  Just now at 7:00 I found the eye drops... in my jeans pocket!

riveting
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 13, 2013, 09:42:57 pm
i found it pretty boring myself, as well.  sorry we hate each other.  im not too blind to see.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 13, 2013, 10:48:52 pm
Well I satisfied my objective...  Bored the shit out of hutch and drew sarcasm from walky.  Hell I'm batting 1.000.  I am so damn good at this!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 13, 2013, 11:17:31 pm


iron Sheik
THREATENS OLYMPIC OFFICIALS
'I Swear to the Jesus I Suplex Them'
 

Exclusive
The Iron Sheik isn't just a WWE legend ... he's also a veteran Olympic wrestler ... and he's so pissed that his sport is getting booted from the Games ... he's now threatening violence.

As we previously reported, the International Olympic Committee has moved to drop wrestling from the 2020 games ... in favor of other sports like field hockey. Seriously.

Now, Sheik -- who says he competed for Iran in the 1968 Olympics and then became an asst. coach for Team USA in the '70s -- tells TMZ (in his trademark broken English) he's looking to take matters into his own hands.



"After 1000 years they take away the best sport in the world? This is the first time the dumb motherf**kers have no balls for they make the walking an Olympic sport."

He adds, "If I see anybody on the street that work from the IOC I swear to the Jesus I suplex them put them in camel clutch break their back make them humble."

"The #TEAMSHEIKIE respect the Olympic now they can all go f**k themselves and make the Curling Olympic sport because they all the biggest piece of no good s**t and I never watch the Olympic again. Also buy my t shirt [on my website] or go f**k yourself.?

It's a little confusing ... but we think we get the point..

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/12/wwe-wrestler-iron-sheik-upset-ioc-drop-wrestling-olympics/#ixzz2Kq7q2W44
 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 14, 2013, 04:08:47 am
Why is it that in the south you can order iced tea either 'sweetened' or 'unsweetened'?  I may be wrong but I don't think they sweeten the tea then take the sweetening agent back out so it really isn't 'unsweetened' is it?  Shouldn't it be sold as 'sweetened' on 'non-sweetened' tea?  Just wondering...
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 10:36:45 am
Went to the eye doctor yesterday to get new glasses.  he gave me some eye drops for dryness I have been having as a result of the meds I am taking for the neurological issues I have.  Today I could not find the eye drops and looked for them for about 20-30 minutes before heading out for lunch around 1:00.  Just now at 7:00 I found the eye drops... in my jeans pocket!

Well your dementia explains your political posts.  But what is interesting is that you have more medical issues than anyone and you complain about government sponsored medical care.  Shouldn't you be the one saying more money for medical care? 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 10:41:18 am


iron Sheik
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The Iron Sheik isn't just a WWE legend ... he's also a veteran Olympic wrestler ... and he's so pissed that his sport is getting booted from the Games ... he's now threatening violence.

As we previously reported, the International Olympic Committee has moved to drop wrestling from the 2020 games ... in favor of other sports like field hockey. Seriously.

Now, Sheik -- who says he competed for Iran in the 1968 Olympics and then became an asst. coach for Team USA in the '70s -- tells TMZ (in his trademark broken English) he's looking to take matters into his own hands.



"After 1000 years they take away the best sport in the world? This is the first time the dumb motherf**kers have no balls for they make the walking an Olympic sport."

He adds, "If I see anybody on the street that work from the IOC I swear to the Jesus I suplex them put them in camel clutch break their back make them humble."

"The #TEAMSHEIKIE respect the Olympic now they can all go f**k themselves and make the Curling Olympic sport because they all the biggest piece of no good s**t and I never watch the Olympic again. Also buy my t shirt [on my website] or go f**k yourself.?

It's a little confusing ... but we think we get the point..

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/12/wwe-wrestler-iron-sheik-upset-ioc-drop-wrestling-olympics/#ixzz2Kq7q2W44
 


I don't believe a thing about the Iron Sheik. I think he posed as russian wrestler before the iran hostage crisis and then suddenly he was iranian. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: killsaly on February 14, 2013, 12:11:27 pm
I may be wrong but I don't think they sweeten the tea then take the sweetening agent back out so it really isn't 'unsweetened' is it?  Shouldn't it be sold as 'sweetened' on 'non-sweetened' tea?  Just wondering...
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/unsweetened
Adj.   1.   unsweetened - not made sweet         
nonsweet, sugarless - not containing sugar

Non-sweetened and unsweetened mean the Same thing.  It doesnt mean DE-Sweetened, THAT is what adding Sweetener, and taking it out would be.

Its like the word Unnecessary, or NOT necessary. 

In the South (where I grew up, never got into tea), MOST people drink their tea sweet.  They dont ask for a sweet tea usually, just a tea (or "ice tea").  If they want it non-sweetened they use the correct term, unsweetened, to ask for it. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Geoff Leppard on February 14, 2013, 12:13:37 pm
I prefer my unsweetened tea preheated.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: hutch on February 14, 2013, 12:23:20 pm
it can be hard to get unsweetened ice tea in the south.. they really like to pour that sugar in...a lot of sugar.

my girl's family is from georgia and she loves unsweetened ice tea and when we go south its always an issue getting it.. you really have to fight for it!
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 12:32:52 pm
Yeah i went to thing in south carolina once and was amazed how sweet the ice tea was down there.  I guess it has come north as I feel sweetened ice tea is much sweeter recently around here.  I have gotten to the point where i just drink it unsweetened.  But I am not much of sweets person. I don't drink soda and I don't put sugar in my espressos or machiatos either. 

I would guess that their is a much higher incidence of diabetes in the south due to mostly their sweet tea. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 14, 2013, 01:38:10 pm
It is a southern thing (sweet tea).  I am not a tea drinker at all, it literally makes me nauseated.  I am told though that it does make a difference in the taste if tea is sweetened while it is still hot, then iced as opposed to sweetening tea after it has been iced.  On another note, Kim swears by the ice tea flavor vodka that has been out for a bit now.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 14, 2013, 01:38:57 pm
I may be wrong but I don't think they sweeten the tea then take the sweetening agent back out so it really isn't 'unsweetened' is it?  Shouldn't it be sold as 'sweetened' on 'non-sweetened' tea?  Just wondering...
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/unsweetened
Adj.   1.   unsweetened - not made sweet         
nonsweet, sugarless - not containing sugar

Non-sweetened and unsweetened mean the Same thing.  It doesnt mean DE-Sweetened, THAT is what adding Sweetener, and taking it out would be.

Its like the word Unnecessary, or NOT necessary. 

In the South (where I grew up, never got into tea), MOST people drink their tea sweet.  They dont ask for a sweet tea usually, just a tea (or "ice tea").  If they want it non-sweetened they use the correct term, unsweetened, to ask for it. 

Good enough explanation as any.   still find it a tad odd though.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: Geoff Leppard on February 14, 2013, 01:53:55 pm
I would guess that their is a much higher incidence of diabetes in the south due to mostly their sweet tea. 

Diabetes Heat Map (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=diabetes-belt)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 14, 2013, 02:07:16 pm
If you really want to fuck with someone who comes to the south for the first time give them some Smithfield ham and a glass of sweet tea.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 02:31:40 pm
I would guess that their is a much higher incidence of diabetes in the south due to mostly their sweet tea. 

Diabetes Heat Map (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=diabetes-belt)

yeah the dark red corresponds to a high level of sweet tea drinkers.  That stuff should be outlawed.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: chaz on February 14, 2013, 02:37:02 pm
I would guess that their is a much higher incidence of diabetes in the south due to mostly their sweet tea. 

Diabetes Heat Map (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=diabetes-belt)

yeah the dark red corresponds to a high level of sweet tea drinkers.  That stuff should be outlawed.

in general the south is a mess health wise....infectious disease rates are much higher there as well. 
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 14, 2013, 03:01:49 pm
I would guess that their is a much higher incidence of diabetes in the south due to mostly their sweet tea. 

Diabetes Heat Map (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=diabetes-belt)

yeah the dark red corresponds to a high level of sweet tea drinkers.  That stuff should be outlawed.

BAN SWEET TEA IN ANY GLASS OVER 8OZ! :) :)
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: James Ford on February 14, 2013, 03:04:59 pm
No tea and no alcohol. Dude you must be the healthiest guy on the planet.

It is a southern thing (sweet tea).  I am not a tea drinker at all, it literally makes me nauseated.  I am told though that it does make a difference in the taste if tea is sweetened while it is still hot, then iced as opposed to sweetening tea after it has been iced.  On another note, Kim swears by the ice tea flavor vodka that has been out for a bit now.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 14, 2013, 03:15:16 pm
No tea and no alcohol. Dude you must be the healthiest guy on the planet.

It is a southern thing (sweet tea).  I am not a tea drinker at all, it literally makes me nauseated.  I am told though that it does make a difference in the taste if tea is sweetened while it is still hot, then iced as opposed to sweetening tea after it has been iced.  On another note, Kim swears by the ice tea flavor vodka that has been out for a bit now.

Also I neither smoke nor use any sort of illegal substances (any more).  Although years ago, well lets just put it this way, never smoke a quaalude.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: atomicfront on February 14, 2013, 03:42:28 pm
No tea and no alcohol. Dude you must be the healthiest guy on the planet.

It is a southern thing (sweet tea).  I am not a tea drinker at all, it literally makes me nauseated.  I am told though that it does make a difference in the taste if tea is sweetened while it is still hot, then iced as opposed to sweetening tea after it has been iced.  On another note, Kim swears by the ice tea flavor vodka that has been out for a bit now.

Actually unsweetened tea is very healthy and so is alcohol.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: RatBastard on February 14, 2013, 04:05:43 pm
No tea and no alcohol. Dude you must be the healthiest guy on the planet.

It is a southern thing (sweet tea).  I am not a tea drinker at all, it literally makes me nauseated.  I am told though that it does make a difference in the taste if tea is sweetened while it is still hot, then iced as opposed to sweetening tea after it has been iced.  On another note, Kim swears by the ice tea flavor vodka that has been out for a bit now.

Actually unsweetened tea is very healthy and so is alcohol.

Most things are until taken to excess.
Title: Re: A Various Random Thoughts Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 14, 2013, 06:05:15 pm
No tea and no alcohol. Dude you must be the healthiest guy on the planet.

It is a southern thing (sweet tea).  I am not a tea drinker at all, it literally makes me nauseated.  I am told though that it does make a difference in the taste if tea is sweetened while it is still hot, then iced as opposed to sweetening tea after it has been iced.  On another note, Kim swears by the ice tea flavor vodka that has been out for a bit now.

Also I neither smoke nor use any sort of illegal substances (any more).  Although years ago, well lets just put it this way, never smoke a quaalude.

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