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Huzzah!
http://930club.tumblr.com/post/54028732502/for-immediate-release
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Great news. Hopefully IMP will train the staff not to empty the trash cans in the middle of an acoustic show.
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oh look another mention of the lincoln theatre, as if it is rising from the ashes of great places to see a show in dc. well, it is.
and look . . . a new person.
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Congrats! Will the Friends with Benefits program be expanded to include the Lincoln?
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http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2013/07/02/mayor-announces-slate-of-vanilla-shows-at-lincoln-theatre/
Mayor Announces Slate of Vanilla Shows at Lincoln Theatre
Posted by Ally Schweitzer on Jul. 2, 2013 at 6:02 pm
Today, Mayor Vince Gray announced the first set of I.M.P.-booked shows at the Lincoln Theatre. It may be the first and last time D.C.'s mayor announces anything having to do with Scottish wuss-rock band Travis.
Here are the first publicized shows I.M.P. will present as the Lincoln Theatre's new full-time operator. Tickets go on sale July 12 at 10 a.m. on Ticketfly.
Sept. 4: Laura Marling
Sept. 20: Travis
Sept. 29: KT Tunstall
Oct. 29: Matt Nathanson
Oct. 30: Neko Case
Before the city brought on I.M.P. to run the Lincoln Theatre, the Bethesda-based company?which also books the 9:30 Club and Merriweather Post Pavilion?rented the historic venue from time to time, usually reserving the seated venue for acts on the intimate alt-folk/country end of the spectrum, like Jeff Tweedy. This lineup suggests that the company doesn't have any immediate plans to change course.
But let's look at the bigger picture here: The Lincoln Theatre is a historically black theater, and these acts are largely white singer-songwriters with?I'm assuming?mostly white, middle-class fans. Anyone concerned about the Lincoln Theatre maintaining any shred of its legacy might be a bit concerned about the appearance of an encroaching acoustic-guitar takeover.
At a Lincoln Theatre press event I attended in 2011, a reporter with the Afro-American asked the mayor point-blank whether the then-transitioning Lincoln Theatre would be turned into a white venue. (The mayor responded diplomatically that the theater would be available to all who choose to patronize it.) An alarmist question, perhaps, given the theater's long history of booking black performers, but when new management takes over and announces a lineup as Anglo as the line outside an L.L. Bean liquidation sale, eyebrows could begin to creep skyward.
Though, this is just the first set of shows, and I.M.P. still books one of the country's most beloved venues, the 9:30 Club, which could hardly be accused of catering to an exclusively white audience. Whether this slate represents a dramatic turn for the Lincoln Theatre remains to be seen. But let's hope it doesn't.
Update, 7 p.m.: I.M.P. Chairman Seth Hurwitz responds via a spokesperson: "This is just a start. We are going to try all kinds of things. We are not afraid to take chances...in fact, we enjoy doing so, and that's what makes it exciting for us. But, ultimately, the audience for the Lincoln will be determined by what does well."
Photo by Flickr user AndreaMann used under a Creative Commons license.
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http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2013/07/02/mayor-announces-slate-of-vanilla-shows-at-lincoln-theatre/
Mayor Announces Slate of Vanilla Shows at Lincoln Theatre
Posted by Ally Schweitzer on Jul. 2, 2013 at 6:02 pm
Today, Mayor Vince Gray announced the first set of I.M.P.-booked shows at the Lincoln Theatre. It may be the first and last time D.C.'s mayor announces anything having to do with Scottish wuss-rock band Travis.
Here are the first publicized shows I.M.P. will present as the Lincoln Theatre's new full-time operator. Tickets go on sale July 12 at 10 a.m. on Ticketfly.
Sept. 4: Laura Marling
Sept. 20: Travis
Sept. 29: KT Tunstall
Oct. 29: Matt Nathanson
Oct. 30: Neko Case
Before the city brought on I.M.P. to run the Lincoln Theatre, the Bethesda-based company?which also books the 9:30 Club and Merriweather Post Pavilion?rented the historic venue from time to time, usually reserving the seated venue for acts on the intimate alt-folk/country end of the spectrum, like Jeff Tweedy. This lineup suggests that the company doesn't have any immediate plans to change course.
But let's look at the bigger picture here: The Lincoln Theatre is a historically black theater, and these acts are largely white singer-songwriters with?I'm assuming?mostly white, middle-class fans. Anyone concerned about the Lincoln Theatre maintaining any shred of its legacy might be a bit concerned about the appearance of an encroaching acoustic-guitar takeover.
At a Lincoln Theatre press event I attended in 2011, a reporter with the Afro-American asked the mayor point-blank whether the then-transitioning Lincoln Theatre would be turned into a white venue. (The mayor responded diplomatically that the theater would be available to all who choose to patronize it.) An alarmist question, perhaps, given the theater's long history of booking black performers, but when new management takes over and announces a lineup as Anglo as the line outside an L.L. Bean liquidation sale, eyebrows could begin to creep skyward.
Though, this is just the first set of shows, and I.M.P. still books one of the country's most beloved venues, the 9:30 Club, which could hardly be accused of catering to an exclusively white audience. Whether this slate represents a dramatic turn for the Lincoln Theatre remains to be seen. But let's hope it doesn't.
Update, 7 p.m.: I.M.P. Chairman Seth Hurwitz responds via a spokesperson: "This is just a start. We are going to try all kinds of things. We are not afraid to take chances...in fact, we enjoy doing so, and that's what makes it exciting for us. But, ultimately, the audience for the Lincoln will be determined by what does well."
Photo by Flickr user AndreaMann used under a Creative Commons license.
oh christ.
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are any of those musicians black?
if not its kind of silly..
i ask because i haven't heard of most of those..
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are any of those musicians black?
if not its kind of silly..
i ask because i haven't heard of most of those..
Seriously, who gives a shit.. and no, none are black and all pretty damn boring, but who cares? At least something is happening at the "historic black theatre." As not a damn thing has happened there in over a decade.
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Why would those artists mostly appeal to white, middle class fans?
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that is exactly the kind of article that was written by someone that doesn't actually go to concerts, and certainly not buy tickets
kind of like those people that wax poetic about baseball but never actually go to games
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that is exactly the kind of article that was written by someone that doesn't actually go to concerts, and certainly not buy tickets
kind of like those people that wax poetic about baseball but never actually go to games
*knux*
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http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2013/07/02/mayor-announces-slate-of-vanilla-shows-at-lincoln-theatre/
Mayor Announces Slate of Vanilla Shows at Lincoln Theatre
Posted by Ally Schweitzer on Jul. 2, 2013 at 6:02 pm
Today, Mayor Vince Gray announced the first set of I.M.P.-booked shows at the Lincoln Theatre. It may be the first and last time D.C.'s mayor announces anything having to do with Scottish wuss-rock band Travis.
Here are the first publicized shows I.M.P. will present as the Lincoln Theatre's new full-time operator. Tickets go on sale July 12 at 10 a.m. on Ticketfly.
Sept. 4: Laura Marling
Sept. 20: Travis
Sept. 29: KT Tunstall
Oct. 29: Matt Nathanson
Oct. 30: Neko Case
Before the city brought on I.M.P. to run the Lincoln Theatre, the Bethesda-based company?which also books the 9:30 Club and Merriweather Post Pavilion?rented the historic venue from time to time, usually reserving the seated venue for acts on the intimate alt-folk/country end of the spectrum, like Jeff Tweedy. This lineup suggests that the company doesn't have any immediate plans to change course.
But let's look at the bigger picture here: The Lincoln Theatre is a historically black theater, and these acts are largely white singer-songwriters with?I'm assuming?mostly white, middle-class fans. Anyone concerned about the Lincoln Theatre maintaining any shred of its legacy might be a bit concerned about the appearance of an encroaching acoustic-guitar takeover.
At a Lincoln Theatre press event I attended in 2011, a reporter with the Afro-American asked the mayor point-blank whether the then-transitioning Lincoln Theatre would be turned into a white venue. (The mayor responded diplomatically that the theater would be available to all who choose to patronize it.) An alarmist question, perhaps, given the theater's long history of booking black performers, but when new management takes over and announces a lineup as Anglo as the line outside an L.L. Bean liquidation sale, eyebrows could begin to creep skyward.
Though, this is just the first set of shows, and I.M.P. still books one of the country's most beloved venues, the 9:30 Club, which could hardly be accused of catering to an exclusively white audience. Whether this slate represents a dramatic turn for the Lincoln Theatre remains to be seen. But let's hope it doesn't.
Update, 7 p.m.: I.M.P. Chairman Seth Hurwitz responds via a spokesperson: "This is just a start. We are going to try all kinds of things. We are not afraid to take chances...in fact, we enjoy doing so, and that's what makes it exciting for us. But, ultimately, the audience for the Lincoln will be determined by what does well."
Photo by Flickr user AndreaMann used under a Creative Commons license.
Holy crap! Next thing you know, we'll be going back to different water fountains, and having to have some people sitting in the back of the bus. WTF WTF WTF!!! Regardless of skin color and history, obviously it's not able to survive without help from "the white man" (insert sarcasm)
I can see it now "Oh, Wu-Tang wants to play the 9:30 Club" "Oh, we can book them but down at our "black" venue a few blocks down" Jeebus!
What a horrible story.
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seriously racist article
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seriously ugly writer.
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Ally Schweitzer??
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but thats the thing.. just booking one black act to start... the kind of act seth books all the time would have been great for PR...surprising mistake.
wishing the world wasn't the way it is don't make it so..
i mean looking at it from the black community perspective IMP is taking over a historic piece of the black community (yes, its sucked for years now...) and they want to see some continuity etc.. its understandable..
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What exactly is a "black act"?
but thats the thing.. just booking one black act to start... the kind of act seth books all the time would have been great for PR...surprising mistake.
wishing the world wasn't the way it is don't make it so..
i mean looking at it from the black community perspective IMP is taking over a historic piece of the black community (yes, its sucked for years now...) and they want to see some continuity etc.. its understandable..
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What exactly is a "black act"?
but thats the thing.. just booking one black act to start... the kind of act seth books all the time would have been great for PR...surprising mistake.
wishing the world wasn't the way it is don't make it so..
i mean looking at it from the black community perspective IMP is taking over a historic piece of the black community (yes, its sucked for years now...) and they want to see some continuity etc.. its understandable..
well I'll give you a clue: its sure ain't frickin' Travis
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Why not?
What exactly is a "black act"?
but thats the thing.. just booking one black act to start... the kind of act seth books all the time would have been great for PR...surprising mistake.
wishing the world wasn't the way it is don't make it so..
i mean looking at it from the black community perspective IMP is taking over a historic piece of the black community (yes, its sucked for years now...) and they want to see some continuity etc.. its understandable..
well I'll give you a clue: its sure ain't frickin' Travis
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Why not?
What exactly is a "black act"?
but thats the thing.. just booking one black act to start... the kind of act seth books all the time would have been great for PR...surprising mistake.
wishing the world wasn't the way it is don't make it so..
i mean looking at it from the black community perspective IMP is taking over a historic piece of the black community (yes, its sucked for years now...) and they want to see some continuity etc.. its understandable..
well I'll give you a clue: its sure ain't frickin' Travis
you're going to have to figure that one out on your own sonny boy..
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Look I'm not saying Seth and IMP aren't the greatest thing since rice-a-roni.... just saying you know the black community ain't going to like it if the Lincoln Theatre turns into an annex of the 930.. its got to have some links to its history, culture, tradition etc.. and those are all B L A C K...
This is a place Billie Holiday, Duke Ellington, Cab Calloway, Sarah Vaughan all played...
its just stupid not to book any black acts when you're reopening it to signal some kind of link to its past...
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Look I'm not saying Seth and IMP aren't the greatest thing since rice-a-roni.... just saying you know the black community ain't going to like it if the Lincoln Theatre turns into an annex of the 930.. its got to have some links to its history, culture, tradition etc.. and those are all B L A C K...
This is a place Billie Holiday, Duke Ellington, Cab Calloway, Sarah Vaughan all played...
its just stupid not to book any black acts when you're reopening it to signal some kind of link to its past...
Well, good or bad, U Street sure as hell ain't black anymore.
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Look I'm not saying Seth and IMP aren't the greatest thing since rice-a-roni.... just saying you know the black community ain't going to like it if the Lincoln Theatre turns into an annex of the 930.. its got to have some links to its history, culture, tradition etc.. and those are all B L A C K...
This is a place Billie Holiday, Duke Ellington, Cab Calloway, Sarah Vaughan all played...
its just stupid not to book any black acts when you're reopening it to signal some kind of link to its past...
Well, good or bad, U Street sure as hell ain't black anymore.
ain't that the truth...and that is part of the issue...when a community feels its heritage being trampled on, right or wong, they get ticked off...I'm not even saying that is what is going on here as one article like the one reproduced here doesn't mean anything... I'm sure the fact the Howard Theatre opened up will mean this isn't much of an issue..
its kinda weird the way DC now has a "Chinatown" with hardly anything about it that is Chinese and a U Street with hardly anything tying it back to when U Street was the black Broadway or whatever.. but then again U Street was a dump since the riots..
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Look I'm not saying Seth and IMP aren't the greatest thing since rice-a-roni.... just saying you know the black community ain't going to like it if the Lincoln Theatre turns into an annex of the 930.. its got to have some links to its history, culture, tradition etc.. and those are all B L A C K...
This is a place Billie Holiday, Duke Ellington, Cab Calloway, Sarah Vaughan all played...
its just stupid not to book any black acts when you're reopening it to signal some kind of link to its past...
Sometimes you post things that don't make any sense. IMP is trying to book shows that make money. WHy the racism, hutch?
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Maybe Seth should just book Santigold so Hutch and the City Paper can shut the f up.
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Maybe Seth should just book Santigold so Hutch and the City Paper can shut the f up.
I didn't say they need to book anything.. or wasn't trying to...I said they need to book a black act, out of five initial non-black acts, if they give a shit about what the black community thinks.. its not malicious on IMPs part or racist or anythign like that..of course not.. its just tone deaf.
If they don't that is fine.. personally I think its poor from a PR perspective..you can't tell me in a city that is close to half black that there aren't any black acts that can sell well...
I don't see anything racism here.. not on IMPs part or anybody else (except the article writer).. and i don't believe in throwing the racism word out there needlessly..save it for some real racism dude...
its just stupid is essentially what i'm saying...
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What is a black act?
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Is this guy a black act?
Looks pretty black to me.
(http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/R/Darius-Rucker-224910-1-402.jpg)
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Maybe Seth should just book Santigold so Hutch and the City Paper can shut the f up.
I didn't say they need to book anything.. or wasn't trying to...I said they need to book a black act, out of five initial non-black acts, if they give a shit about what the black community thinks.. its not malicious on IMPs part or racist or anythign like that..of course not.. its just tone deaf.
If they don't that is fine.. personally I think its poor from a PR perspective..you can't tell me in a city that is close to half black that there aren't any black acts that can sell well...
I don't see anything racism here.. not on IMPs part or anybody else (except the article writer).. and i don't believe in throwing the racism word out there needlessly..save it for some real racism dude...
its just stupid is essentially what i'm saying...
I am not saying IMP is racist. I am saying you and the City Paper are racist.
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What is a black act?
I think that's just the colloquialism - perhaps a sloppy one - for a group that has garnered broadbased appeal for an audience whose demographic skews towards African Americans, rather than Anglo Americans, Latinos or Asians.
I'm only guessing here, but it seems like the most likely explanation. Capeesh?
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Then the "black" refers to the audience and not the artist? Then can the artist be Caucasian him or herself?
By that definition, I'm guessing Billie Holiday is a white artist, since arguably more white people listen to her than black at this point?
What is a black act?
I think that's just the colloquialism - perhaps a sloppy one - for a group that has garnered broadbased appeal for an audience whose demographic skews towards African Americans, rather than Anglo Americans, Latinos or Asians.
I'm only guessing here, but it seems like the most likely explanation. Capeesh?
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What is a black act?
I think that's just the colloquialism - perhaps a sloppy one - for a group that has garnered broadbased appeal for an audience whose demographic skews towards African Americans, rather than Anglo Americans, Latinos or Asians.
I'm only guessing here, but it seems like the most likely explanation. Capeesh?
So why would you want to target a specific race? How is that not racism? Seth books the bands he knows best. Everyone is allowed their own speciality. If someone thinks black audiences are underserved they can start promoting shows to to that demographic and make tons of money.
I like the artists he has booked. If you don't than don't attend. I am sure if he booked the black acts that would appeal to the black community in your opinion you wouldn't attend anyway. So the whole argument is not only racism but highly annoying.
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you know i reread the city paper article
nothing racist in it.. its not the best written article..but racist? umm.. not really
talking about people's skin color doesn't make you a racist... encouraging diversity is not in it of itself racism... saying important institutions - even when they change management- should still be somehow, even if tenuously, connected to their history and tradition is not racism
what if bens chili bowl went through a real rough patch and changed management and became a taco shop? to me that would suck.. you'd hope the new management would be sensitive to those concerns... this is kind of the same for me..
there were FIVE initial acts announced..having them be the type of acts that would play the 930 is boring... it doesn't contribute one iota to DC.. before you could see them here, now you can see them there.. whoopdedoo
or maybe someone should buy the lincoln theatre and turn into the royal palace 2.. i mean if the only thing its about is making money why not?
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What is a black act?
I think that's just the colloquialism - perhaps a sloppy one - for a group that has garnered broadbased appeal for an audience whose demographic skews towards African Americans, rather than Anglo Americans, Latinos or Asians.
I'm only guessing here, but it seems like the most likely explanation. Capeesh?
So why would you want to target a specific race? How is that not racism? Seth books the bands he knows best. Everyone is allowed their own speciality. If someone thinks black audiences are underserved they can start promoting shows to to that demographic and make tons of money.
I like the artists he has booked. If you don't than don't attend. I am sure if he booked the black acts that would appeal to the black community in your opinion you wouldn't attend anyway. So the whole argument is not only racism but highly annoying.
target?
racist?
sorry my friend.. if booking a diverse group of artists that meets the needs of the community you serve is racism then we're going to have to agree to disagree and leave it at that..
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Also, if he booked Wu Tang at the Lincoln Theatre, it would be all white people there.
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you know i reread the city paper article
nothing racist in it.. its not the best written article..but racist? umm.. not really
talking about people's skin color doesn't make you a racist... encouraging diversity is not in it of itself racism... saying important institutions - even when they change management- should still be somehow, even if tenuously, connected to their history and tradition is not racism
what if bens chili bowl went through a real rough patch and changed management and became a taco shop? to me that would suck.. you'd hope the new management would be sensitive to those concerns... this is kind of the same for me..
there were FIVE initial acts announced..having them be the type of acts that would play the 930 is boring... it doesn't contribute one iota to DC.. before you could see them here, now you can see them there.. whoopdedoo
or maybe someone should buy the lincoln theatre and turn into the royal palace 2.. i mean if the only thing its about is making money why not?
I like those 5 acts and I would rather see them at the Lincoln Theater than 930 club. Actually there is zero chance that I would attend them at 930 club but I might go to a couple at Lincoln Theater. And I am not from DC so that would help DC.
Would the City Paper complain if a traditional white theater was taken over by a RAP promoter? I am guessing not. And I am guessing you wouldn't be complaining either. I am guessing that the City Paper writter isn't black either and he is just complaining to complain. It is racism to say they should have more acts that appeal to black people. Black people should go see Neko Case. Why are black people so racist that they refuse to see Neko Case?
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She has a point.
<ducks>
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Also, if he booked Wu Tang at the Lincoln Theatre, it would be all white people there.
The Howard does the best job of serving the community.. look at all the Ethiopian acts they 're booking..they're filling a niche that needs filling.
I'm sorry but many of the acts that are being booked at the Howard are acts that otherwise were not being booked in DC.. that is part of what adding to, and serving the community are about..
Of course IMP can book Neko Case anywhere.. she's been booked in DC pretty much every year going back forever.. it adds nothing.. it may add to IMPs bottom line which is fine... I love Seth, he has my dream job and he does it well but diversity is not his forte.. he admitted himself they have no clue about latin rock and really don't care (those last four words are mine: if they cared they'd get a clue).. fine, they don't have to but then they don't care about serving the latin community or rather the constituency for latin shows in DC.. that is fine.. no biggie.. the Howard will book those shows ..
Diversity is just not IMPs forte.. nothing illegal about that..nothing racist .. nothing bad..
but you better damn well know its going to be pointed out and people are going to notice.. and you can call those people all racists or you can think about it for a second
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Also, if he booked Wu Tang at the Lincoln Theatre, it would be all white people there.
The Howard does the best job of serving the community.. look at all the Ethiopian acts they 're booking..they're filling a niche that needs filling.
I'm sorry but many of the acts that are being booked at the Howard are acts that otherwise were not being booked in DC.. that is part of what adding to, and serving the community are about..
Of course IMP can book Neko Case anywhere.. she's been booked in DC pretty much every year going back forever.. it adds nothing.. it may add to IMPs bottom line which is fine... I love Seth, he has my dream job and he does it well but diversity is not his forte.. he admitted himself they have no clue about latin rock and really don't care (those last four words are mine: if they cared they'd get a clue).. fine, they don't have to but then they don't care about serving the latin community or rather the constituency for latin shows in DC.. that is fine.. no biggie.. the Howard will book those shows ..
Diversity is just not IMPs forte.. nothing illegal about that..nothing racist .. nothing bad..
but you better damn well know its going to be pointed out and people are going to notice.. and you can call those people all racists or you can think about it for a second
I'm not calling the white guilted writer a racist, it's just an incredibly stupid article.
It's a simple argument. You have an awesome venue that hasn't had shit in nearly 15 years (maybe longer) minus a handful of random shows. That venue can continue to go south and eventually end up completely run down, outdated, and vacant. That venue can continue to go south and someone else scoops it up and turns it into another multi story over priced restaurant or bar. Orrrrrr... someone like IMP can take it on and at least use the venue for the purpose it was meant for, music and entertainment... and guess what, i'm sure "diverse" acts at some point will come through.
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Also, if he booked Wu Tang at the Lincoln Theatre, it would be all white people there.
The Howard does the best job of serving the community.. look at all the Ethiopian acts they 're booking..they're filling a niche that needs filling.
I'm sorry but many of the acts that are being booked at the Howard are acts that otherwise were not being booked in DC.. that is part of what adding to, and serving the community are about..
Of course IMP can book Neko Case anywhere.. she's been booked in DC pretty much every year going back forever.. it adds nothing.. it may add to IMPs bottom line which is fine... I love Seth, he has my dream job and he does it well but diversity is not his forte.. he admitted himself they have no clue about latin rock and really don't care (those last four words are mine: if they cared they'd get a clue).. fine, they don't have to but then they don't care about serving the latin community or rather the constituency for latin shows in DC.. that is fine.. no biggie.. the Howard will book those shows ..
Diversity is just not IMPs forte.. nothing illegal about that..nothing racist .. nothing bad..
but you better damn well know its going to be pointed out and people are going to notice.. and you can call those people all racists or you can think about it for a second
Is the Howard racist for not booking Travis, Neko Case, and Laura Marling or any band that I would ever want to see? And if Seth's starts booking all the shows the Howard place does what will they book?
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Also, if he booked Wu Tang at the Lincoln Theatre, it would be all white people there.
The Howard does the best job of serving the community.. look at all the Ethiopian acts they 're booking..they're filling a niche that needs filling.
I'm sorry but many of the acts that are being booked at the Howard are acts that otherwise were not being booked in DC.. that is part of what adding to, and serving the community are about..
Of course IMP can book Neko Case anywhere.. she's been booked in DC pretty much every year going back forever.. it adds nothing.. it may add to IMPs bottom line which is fine... I love Seth, he has my dream job and he does it well but diversity is not his forte.. he admitted himself they have no clue about latin rock and really don't care (those last four words are mine: if they cared they'd get a clue).. fine, they don't have to but then they don't care about serving the latin community or rather the constituency for latin shows in DC.. that is fine.. no biggie.. the Howard will book those shows ..
Diversity is just not IMPs forte.. nothing illegal about that..nothing racist .. nothing bad..
but you better damn well know its going to be pointed out and people are going to notice.. and you can call those people all racists or you can think about it for a second
I'm not calling the white guilted writer a racist, it's just an incredibly stupid article.
It's a simple argument. You have an awesome venue that hasn't had shit in nearly 15 years (maybe longer) minus a handful of random shows. That venue can continue to go south and eventually end up completely run down, outdated, and vacant. That venue can continue to go south and someone else scoops it up and turns it into another multi story over priced restaurant or bar. Orrrrrr... someone like IMP can take it on and at least use the venue for the purpose it was meant for, music and entertainment... and guess what, i'm sure "diverse" acts at some point will come through.
And I get that .. and I'm saying that from a PR perspective what they're doing is just stupid and unnecessary.. they could have booked one show out of the first five that they announced that had some connection either to the venue's history or the history of the constituency that has traditionally frequented the place.. and then we wouldn't be having this conversation...
and if the answer is for IMP "to do that would be racist".... well, I'm sorry I ain't buying it..
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Also, if he booked Wu Tang at the Lincoln Theatre, it would be all white people there.
The Howard does the best job of serving the community.. look at all the Ethiopian acts they 're booking..they're filling a niche that needs filling.
I'm sorry but many of the acts that are being booked at the Howard are acts that otherwise were not being booked in DC.. that is part of what adding to, and serving the community are about..
Of course IMP can book Neko Case anywhere.. she's been booked in DC pretty much every year going back forever.. it adds nothing.. it may add to IMPs bottom line which is fine... I love Seth, he has my dream job and he does it well but diversity is not his forte.. he admitted himself they have no clue about latin rock and really don't care (those last four words are mine: if they cared they'd get a clue).. fine, they don't have to but then they don't care about serving the latin community or rather the constituency for latin shows in DC.. that is fine.. no biggie.. the Howard will book those shows ..
Diversity is just not IMPs forte.. nothing illegal about that..nothing racist .. nothing bad..
but you better damn well know its going to be pointed out and people are going to notice.. and you can call those people all racists or you can think about it for a second
Is the Howard racist for not booking Travis, Neko Case, and Laura Marling or any band that I would ever want to see? And if Seth's starts booking all the shows the Howard place does what will they book?
I'd agree with that... There's only so much room for one or two gospel brunches in DC. Also, even the so called "diverse" acts that are at The Howard are by my guess, most likely attended by those boring vanilla white people (but that's a discussion for another thread).
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Also, if he booked Wu Tang at the Lincoln Theatre, it would be all white people there.
The Howard does the best job of serving the community.. look at all the Ethiopian acts they 're booking..they're filling a niche that needs filling.
I'm sorry but many of the acts that are being booked at the Howard are acts that otherwise were not being booked in DC.. that is part of what adding to, and serving the community are about..
Of course IMP can book Neko Case anywhere.. she's been booked in DC pretty much every year going back forever.. it adds nothing.. it may add to IMPs bottom line which is fine... I love Seth, he has my dream job and he does it well but diversity is not his forte.. he admitted himself they have no clue about latin rock and really don't care (those last four words are mine: if they cared they'd get a clue).. fine, they don't have to but then they don't care about serving the latin community or rather the constituency for latin shows in DC.. that is fine.. no biggie.. the Howard will book those shows ..
Diversity is just not IMPs forte.. nothing illegal about that..nothing racist .. nothing bad..
but you better damn well know its going to be pointed out and people are going to notice.. and you can call those people all racists or you can think about it for a second
Is the Howard racist for not booking Travis, Neko Case, and Laura Marling or any band that I would ever want to see? And if Seth's starts booking all the shows the Howard place does what will they book?
No the Howard is not racist but you might be .. how do you like them apples Mr. toss the racist word around like nobody's business?
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Also, if he booked Wu Tang at the Lincoln Theatre, it would be all white people there.
The Howard does the best job of serving the community.. look at all the Ethiopian acts they 're booking..they're filling a niche that needs filling.
I'm sorry but many of the acts that are being booked at the Howard are acts that otherwise were not being booked in DC.. that is part of what adding to, and serving the community are about..
Of course IMP can book Neko Case anywhere.. she's been booked in DC pretty much every year going back forever.. it adds nothing.. it may add to IMPs bottom line which is fine... I love Seth, he has my dream job and he does it well but diversity is not his forte.. he admitted himself they have no clue about latin rock and really don't care (those last four words are mine: if they cared they'd get a clue).. fine, they don't have to but then they don't care about serving the latin community or rather the constituency for latin shows in DC.. that is fine.. no biggie.. the Howard will book those shows ..
Diversity is just not IMPs forte.. nothing illegal about that..nothing racist .. nothing bad..
but you better damn well know its going to be pointed out and people are going to notice.. and you can call those people all racists or you can think about it for a second
Is the Howard racist for not booking Travis, Neko Case, and Laura Marling or any band that I would ever want to see? And if Seth's starts booking all the shows the Howard place does what will they book?
No the Howard is not racist but you might be .. how do you like them apples Mr. toss the racist word around like nobody's business?
Why is the Howard not racist? They should be booking bands that appeal to me? I don't care about any of the acts that appear there. Not one. I don't understand your whole argument on this one. You feel like you have to argue about something that doesn't concern you. Are there acts that you want to see that don't play in DC because no one will book them? How does booking an act that appeals to one race promote diversity? How does picking acts based on the color of their skin be anything other than racism. Why do you even think of the colour of an acts skin? I just listen to bands who I like. Whatever race or color or sexual orientation. It is weird how you are so concerned about this.
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Also, if he booked Wu Tang at the Lincoln Theatre, it would be all white people there.
The Howard does the best job of serving the community.. look at all the Ethiopian acts they 're booking..they're filling a niche that needs filling.
I'm sorry but many of the acts that are being booked at the Howard are acts that otherwise were not being booked in DC.. that is part of what adding to, and serving the community are about..
Of course IMP can book Neko Case anywhere.. she's been booked in DC pretty much every year going back forever.. it adds nothing.. it may add to IMPs bottom line which is fine... I love Seth, he has my dream job and he does it well but diversity is not his forte.. he admitted himself they have no clue about latin rock and really don't care (those last four words are mine: if they cared they'd get a clue).. fine, they don't have to but then they don't care about serving the latin community or rather the constituency for latin shows in DC.. that is fine.. no biggie.. the Howard will book those shows ..
Diversity is just not IMPs forte.. nothing illegal about that..nothing racist .. nothing bad..
but you better damn well know its going to be pointed out and people are going to notice.. and you can call those people all racists or you can think about it for a second
Is the Howard racist for not booking Travis, Neko Case, and Laura Marling or any band that I would ever want to see? And if Seth's starts booking all the shows the Howard place does what will they book?
I'd agree with that... There's only so much room for one or two gospel brunches in DC. Also, even the so called "diverse" acts that are at The Howard are by my guess, most likely attended by those boring vanilla white people (but that's a discussion for another thread).
that's preposterous... boring vanilla white people going to see Ethiopian acts? There weren't any boring white people at the Babasonicos... all boring latin people...
Its very simple.. either you accept that the venue has some responsibility to serve the interests of the community where it resides or not.. when Seth was only booking the 930 you could say "hey its just a rock club and that kind of music is mainly white.." but Seth has come a long way now.. and he books at many many venues in town.. and when he starts booking/running a historic african american venue he's going to get called out if he's booking the same acts -yeah white- all over again...
I once talked to the Manager of a DC venue and she emphasized that she wanted to book acts that appealed to the people of DC.. she thought it made economic sense (ie., the shows wouuld do well) AND was the right thing to do.. I tend to agree with that... you CAN make money while booking latin rock, ethiopian acts, black acts whatever...
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Also, if he booked Wu Tang at the Lincoln Theatre, it would be all white people there.
The Howard does the best job of serving the community.. look at all the Ethiopian acts they 're booking..they're filling a niche that needs filling.
I'm sorry but many of the acts that are being booked at the Howard are acts that otherwise were not being booked in DC.. that is part of what adding to, and serving the community are about..
Of course IMP can book Neko Case anywhere.. she's been booked in DC pretty much every year going back forever.. it adds nothing.. it may add to IMPs bottom line which is fine... I love Seth, he has my dream job and he does it well but diversity is not his forte.. he admitted himself they have no clue about latin rock and really don't care (those last four words are mine: if they cared they'd get a clue).. fine, they don't have to but then they don't care about serving the latin community or rather the constituency for latin shows in DC.. that is fine.. no biggie.. the Howard will book those shows ..
Diversity is just not IMPs forte.. nothing illegal about that..nothing racist .. nothing bad..
but you better damn well know its going to be pointed out and people are going to notice.. and you can call those people all racists or you can think about it for a second
Is the Howard racist for not booking Travis, Neko Case, and Laura Marling or any band that I would ever want to see? And if Seth's starts booking all the shows the Howard place does what will they book?
No the Howard is not racist but you might be .. how do you like them apples Mr. toss the racist word around like nobody's business?
Why is the Howard not racist? They should be booking bands that appeal to me? I don't care about any of the acts that appear there. Not one. I don't understand your whole argument on this one. You feel like you have to argue about something that doesn't concern you. Are there acts that you want to see that don't play in DC because no one will book them? How does booking an act that appeals to one race promote diversity? How does picking acts based on the color of their skin be anything other than racism. Why do you even think of the colour of an acts skin? I just listen to bands who I like. Whatever race or color or sexual orientation. It is weird how you are so concerned about this.
well if it bothers you to think about it in terms of color of skin just think of it like this:
acts that appeal to different people... and not the same kind of people.. forget about skin color..
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Also, if he booked Wu Tang at the Lincoln Theatre, it would be all white people there.
The Howard does the best job of serving the community.. look at all the Ethiopian acts they 're booking..they're filling a niche that needs filling.
I'm sorry but many of the acts that are being booked at the Howard are acts that otherwise were not being booked in DC.. that is part of what adding to, and serving the community are about..
Of course IMP can book Neko Case anywhere.. she's been booked in DC pretty much every year going back forever.. it adds nothing.. it may add to IMPs bottom line which is fine... I love Seth, he has my dream job and he does it well but diversity is not his forte.. he admitted himself they have no clue about latin rock and really don't care (those last four words are mine: if they cared they'd get a clue).. fine, they don't have to but then they don't care about serving the latin community or rather the constituency for latin shows in DC.. that is fine.. no biggie.. the Howard will book those shows ..
Diversity is just not IMPs forte.. nothing illegal about that..nothing racist .. nothing bad..
but you better damn well know its going to be pointed out and people are going to notice.. and you can call those people all racists or you can think about it for a second
Is the Howard racist for not booking Travis, Neko Case, and Laura Marling or any band that I would ever want to see? And if Seth's starts booking all the shows the Howard place does what will they book?
I'd agree with that... There's only so much room for one or two gospel brunches in DC. Also, even the so called "diverse" acts that are at The Howard are by my guess, most likely attended by those boring vanilla white people (but that's a discussion for another thread).
that's preposterous... boring vanilla white people going to see Ethiopian acts? There weren't any boring white people at the Babasonicos... all boring latin people...
Its very simple.. either you accept that the venue has some responsibility to serve the interests of the community where it resides or not.. when Seth was only booking the 930 you could say "hey its just a rock club and that kind of music is mainly white.." but Seth has come a long way now.. and he books at many many venues in town.. and when he starts booking/running a historic african american venue he's going to get called out if he's booking the same acts -yeah white- all over again...
I once talked to the Manager of a DC venue and she emphasized that she wanted to book acts that appealed to the people of DC.. she thought it made economic sense (ie., the shows wouuld do well) AND was the right thing to do.. I tend to agree with that... you CAN make money while booking latin rock, ethiopian acts, black acts whatever...
Ok.. that was a generalization. Maybe the latin/Ethiopian demographic supports artists of their culture more than boring vanilla white people, but I'd bet my left pinkie toe that any hip hop act in DC or anywhere for that matter has more white people attending than black people.
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Since when does the history of the Lincoln Theater have anything to do with Ethiopian music?
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Since when does the history of the Lincoln Theater have anything to do with Ethiopian music?
You're so dense dude.. luckily you're punching out of your government job in a minute..
Since never.. the point was evidently lost on you.
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This argument is stupid. If you think that bands aren't being booked in DC that could be profitable book them yourself. You can rent a venue. Seth has a limited amount of time. He can't be an expert on every genre to the point where he knows how many tickets will sell at which price. He seems to be doing very well and has enough bands booked that he can make more than a decent living.
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This argument is stupid. If you think that bands aren't being booked in DC that could be profitable book them yourself. You can rent a venue. Seth has a limited amount of time. He can't be an expert on every genre to the point where he knows how many tickets will sell at which price. He seems to be doing very well and has enough bands booked that he can make more than a decent living.
yeah except music venues are actually there to serve the community- and not just a part of the community- and not just Seth's pocket.. you probably grew up with the idea that your only responsibility is to make money for yourself so you have no idea what i'm talking about
if Seth cares about latin rock he can always email me through this board.. I'd be more than glad to help him.. on my dime. Point is he doesn't care.. and thats fine.. he doesn't have to but he will get called out for it in the City Paper and he wont like it.. he doesnt have to.
by the way the Lincoln Theatre is a CITY owned venue which is even MORE reason it should serve the community at large... however, if you read Seth's comments (WP article) he plans to book the same acts that he's booking at the 930 Club.. he says as much..talk about boring..
One last point, IMP had to BID to win.. .. they placed the best bid.. the city of DC has not divulged who the other bidders are and I have no idea on what basis prospective managers' bid.. obviously one assumes no subsidies of DC taxpayer money.
I found this quote funny:
?The new vision for the theater represents the growing diversity of our city,? said Lionell Thomas, executive director of the D.C. Commission on the Arts and Humanities, in a press release.
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Wow it got thick in here quick.... And while the WCP writer has a point they could have been less snide about it. And remember Seth can only really book acts that are available. One offs are rare and expensive.. I suspect we'll see Alice Smith there soon, singer with local roots and a loyal following. Probably to soon from her other area shows.
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This is very funny.. if you read Seth's quote you can tell he thinks this whole deal is to serve the interests of HIS community or the people who go to the 930 and play the 930.. if you don't go to the 930 or play the 930 currently you really don't exist apparently.. it is a very very strange way of talking about it...:
?There a lot of acts who want to work with us, love the 9:30 Club, want to play downtown, but would understandably like to try something different. And I think our audience will appreciate the variety as well,? said Hurwitz, who was reached via email while on a flight. ?My thing is to fit the right venue with the right show, and this gives us one more tool in our box to do that?a tool we didn?t have. I like to push boundaries?we will do that here, to everyone?s delight I hope.?
Hurwitz said that the venue would accommodate seated shows and comedy acts that had previously been booked at the 9:30 Club. He plans to staff the theater with employees from his other venues.
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This is very funny.. if you read Seth's quote you can tell he thinks this whole deal is to serve the interests of HIS community or the people who go to the 930 and play the 930.. if you don't go to the 930 or play the 930 currently you really don't exist apparently.. it is a very very strange way of talking about it...:
?There a lot of acts who want to work with us, love the 9:30 Club, want to play downtown, but would understandably like to try something different. And I think our audience will appreciate the variety as well,? said Hurwitz, who was reached via email while on a flight. ?My thing is to fit the right venue with the right show, and this gives us one more tool in our box to do that?a tool we didn?t have. I like to push boundaries?we will do that here, to everyone?s delight I hope.?
Hurwitz said that the venue would accommodate seated shows and comedy acts that had previously been booked at the 9:30 Club. He plans to staff the theater with employees from his other venues.
You are part of his community so what are you complaining about? Of course, he is concerned about his business. For some reason you don't understand why Seth books bands. It is to make money. Not to make you happy. If he started booking bands that you didn't like you wouldn't go to the shows just because you cared about Seth. He didn't agree to take over the Lincoln Theater to create a diverse place for everyone in the community to be served equally. That is the government's job. They give grants to venues to help them do this.
The only events that I have ever been to that had a true diverse audience was the Reggae Festival at pier 6 a few years back and the Jazz Festival in Montreal. Most events are made up of people of a certain race, economic class, and and age group. And a lot of time there are a lot more women at events than men that I go to.
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This is very funny.. if you read Seth's quote you can tell he thinks this whole deal is to serve the interests of HIS community or the people who go to the 930 and play the 930.. if you don't go to the 930 or play the 930 currently you really don't exist apparently.. it is a very very strange way of talking about it...:
?There a lot of acts who want to work with us, love the 9:30 Club, want to play downtown, but would understandably like to try something different. And I think our audience will appreciate the variety as well,? said Hurwitz, who was reached via email while on a flight. ?My thing is to fit the right venue with the right show, and this gives us one more tool in our box to do that?a tool we didn?t have. I like to push boundaries?we will do that here, to everyone?s delight I hope.?
Hurwitz said that the venue would accommodate seated shows and comedy acts that had previously been booked at the 9:30 Club. He plans to staff the theater with employees from his other venues.
You are part of his community so what are you complaining about? Of course, he is concerned about his business. For some reason you don't understand why Seth books bands. It is to make money. Not to make you happy. If he started booking bands that you didn't like you wouldn't go to the shows just because you cared about Seth. He didn't agree to take over the Lincoln Theater to create a diverse place for everyone in the community to be served equally. That is the government's job. They give grants to venues to help them do this.
The only events that I have ever been to that had a true diverse audience was the Reggae Festival at pier 6 a few years back and the Jazz Festival in Montreal. Most events are made up of people of a certain race, economic class, and and age group. And a lot of time there are a lot more women at events than men that I go to.
women = 14 year old girls.
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This is very funny.. if you read Seth's quote you can tell he thinks this whole deal is to serve the interests of HIS community or the people who go to the 930 and play the 930.. if you don't go to the 930 or play the 930 currently you really don't exist apparently.. it is a very very strange way of talking about it...:
?There a lot of acts who want to work with us, love the 9:30 Club, want to play downtown, but would understandably like to try something different. And I think our audience will appreciate the variety as well,? said Hurwitz, who was reached via email while on a flight. ?My thing is to fit the right venue with the right show, and this gives us one more tool in our box to do that?a tool we didn?t have. I like to push boundaries?we will do that here, to everyone?s delight I hope.?
Hurwitz said that the venue would accommodate seated shows and comedy acts that had previously been booked at the 9:30 Club. He plans to staff the theater with employees from his other venues.
You are part of his community so what are you complaining about? Of course, he is concerned about his business. For some reason you don't understand why Seth books bands. It is to make money. Not to make you happy. If he started booking bands that you didn't like you wouldn't go to the shows just because you cared about Seth. He didn't agree to take over the Lincoln Theater to create a diverse place for everyone in the community to be served equally. That is the government's job. They give grants to venues to help them do this.
The only events that I have ever been to that had a true diverse audience was the Reggae Festival at pier 6 a few years back and the Jazz Festival in Montreal. Most events are made up of people of a certain race, economic class, and and age group. And a lot of time there are a lot more women at events than men that I go to.
Except the government owns this venue so I don't think its going to work very well for the government to own a venue that serves the interests of Seth's community.. something about what Seth said and the Executive Director of the DC Comisssion on Arts said just doesn't match...
of course we know the deal: the place is a money loser and the city is just glad to get essentially get rid of it (at least no more subsidies)...they can't say this though...I guess ultimately they will get some sort of canon out of it (cut) and they can use that canon to benefit the people of DC.
But for Seth to say "Yeah I'm taking over the management of this historic venue and its just basically going to be just like the 930 except it has seats.. and yeah the acts and people coming will be the same.."
so yeah if you like the 930 and you don't give a shit about the lincoln theatre's history or its role in the african american community or the fact that Billie Holiday played there.. if that means nothing to you.. if all you care about is seeing the same acts roll through town, with the same people in the crowd.. then yeah, this deal's for you buddy.
or you can go to the Howard Theatre where they do care about the place's history and they take pride in it and they serve the general DC community...
two models..take your pick. what is so funny is that they were both arguably implemented by the same city, within a few years of each other, and are only a few blocks from each other...
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This is very funny.. if you read Seth's quote you can tell he thinks this whole deal is to serve the interests of HIS community or the people who go to the 930 and play the 930.. if you don't go to the 930 or play the 930 currently you really don't exist apparently.. it is a very very strange way of talking about it...:
?There a lot of acts who want to work with us, love the 9:30 Club, want to play downtown, but would understandably like to try something different. And I think our audience will appreciate the variety as well,? said Hurwitz, who was reached via email while on a flight. ?My thing is to fit the right venue with the right show, and this gives us one more tool in our box to do that?a tool we didn?t have. I like to push boundaries?we will do that here, to everyone?s delight I hope.?
Hurwitz said that the venue would accommodate seated shows and comedy acts that had previously been booked at the 9:30 Club. He plans to staff the theater with employees from his other venues.
You are part of his community so what are you complaining about? Of course, he is concerned about his business. For some reason you don't understand why Seth books bands. It is to make money. Not to make you happy. If he started booking bands that you didn't like you wouldn't go to the shows just because you cared about Seth. He didn't agree to take over the Lincoln Theater to create a diverse place for everyone in the community to be served equally. That is the government's job. They give grants to venues to help them do this.
The only events that I have ever been to that had a true diverse audience was the Reggae Festival at pier 6 a few years back and the Jazz Festival in Montreal. Most events are made up of people of a certain race, economic class, and and age group. And a lot of time there are a lot more women at events than men that I go to.
Except the government owns this venue so I don't think its going to work very well for the government to own a venue that serves the interests of Seth's community.. something about what Seth said and the Executive Director of the DC Comisssion on Arts said just doesn't match...
of course we know the deal: the place is a money loser and the city is just glad to get essentially get rid of it (at least no more subsidies)...they can't say this though...I guess ultimately they will get some sort of canon out of it (cut) and they can use that canon to benefit the people of DC.
But for Seth to say "Yeah I'm taking over the management of this historic venue and its just basically going to be just like the 930 except it has seats.. and yeah the acts and people coming will be the same.."
so yeah if you like the 930 and you don't give a shit about the lincoln theatre's history or its role in the african american community or the fact that Billie Holiday played there.. if that means nothing to you.. if all you care about is seeing the same acts roll through town, with the same people in the crowd.. then yeah, this deal's for you buddy.
or you can go to the Howard Theatre where they do care about the place's history and they take pride in it and they serve the general DC community...
two models..take your pick. what is so funny is that they were both arguably implemented by the same city, within a few years of each other, and are only a few blocks from each other...
I like the Lincoln Theater so yeah I would like bands to play there that I actually like. It is cool the place has history but I don't get how race should play into this. I will pick the Lincoln thank you very much. It has bands that I like playing there. 3 of the first 5 are bands I want to see.
I have no idea how you are going to convince anyone that they should prefer to see bands that have zero interest in seeing is better than a place where the bands that they actually love seeing. I don't care about how you think that a show that no one will attend would be good for the community. And I don't get why you are fighting so strongly for something that isn't related to you. If you are going to be proud of someones heritage I would think it would be your own.
If the bands at the Howard weren't so racist they would try and appeal to me. Maybe they could do some music with better melodies and harmonies..
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This is very funny.. if you read Seth's quote you can tell he thinks this whole deal is to serve the interests of HIS community or the people who go to the 930 and play the 930.. if you don't go to the 930 or play the 930 currently you really don't exist apparently.. it is a very very strange way of talking about it...:
?There a lot of acts who want to work with us, love the 9:30 Club, want to play downtown, but would understandably like to try something different. And I think our audience will appreciate the variety as well,? said Hurwitz, who was reached via email while on a flight. ?My thing is to fit the right venue with the right show, and this gives us one more tool in our box to do that?a tool we didn?t have. I like to push boundaries?we will do that here, to everyone?s delight I hope.?
Hurwitz said that the venue would accommodate seated shows and comedy acts that had previously been booked at the 9:30 Club. He plans to staff the theater with employees from his other venues.
You are part of his community so what are you complaining about? Of course, he is concerned about his business. For some reason you don't understand why Seth books bands. It is to make money. Not to make you happy. If he started booking bands that you didn't like you wouldn't go to the shows just because you cared about Seth. He didn't agree to take over the Lincoln Theater to create a diverse place for everyone in the community to be served equally. That is the government's job. They give grants to venues to help them do this.
The only events that I have ever been to that had a true diverse audience was the Reggae Festival at pier 6 a few years back and the Jazz Festival in Montreal. Most events are made up of people of a certain race, economic class, and and age group. And a lot of time there are a lot more women at events than men that I go to.
Except the government owns this venue so I don't think its going to work very well for the government to own a venue that serves the interests of Seth's community.. something about what Seth said and the Executive Director of the DC Comisssion on Arts said just doesn't match...
of course we know the deal: the place is a money loser and the city is just glad to get essentially get rid of it (at least no more subsidies)...they can't say this though...I guess ultimately they will get some sort of canon out of it (cut) and they can use that canon to benefit the people of DC.
But for Seth to say "Yeah I'm taking over the management of this historic venue and its just basically going to be just like the 930 except it has seats.. and yeah the acts and people coming will be the same.."
so yeah if you like the 930 and you don't give a shit about the lincoln theatre's history or its role in the african american community or the fact that Billie Holiday played there.. if that means nothing to you.. if all you care about is seeing the same acts roll through town, with the same people in the crowd.. then yeah, this deal's for you buddy.
or you can go to the Howard Theatre where they do care about the place's history and they take pride in it and they serve the general DC community...
two models..take your pick. what is so funny is that they were both arguably implemented by the same city, within a few years of each other, and are only a few blocks from each other...
I like the Lincoln Theater so yeah I would like bands to play there that I actually like. It is cool the place has history but I don't get how race should play into this. I will pick the Lincoln thank you very much. It has bands that I like playing there. 3 of the first 5 are bands I want to see.
I have no idea how you are going to convince anyone that they should prefer to see bands that have zero interest in seeing is better than a place where the bands that they actually love seeing. I don't care about how you think that a show that no one will attend would be good for the community. And I don't get why you are fighting so strongly for something that isn't related to you. If you are going to be proud of someones heritage I would think it would be your own.
If the bands at the Howard weren't so racist they would try and appeal to me. Maybe they could do some music with better melodies and harmonies..
whoaaaaa nelly!
I'm not fighting and don't care very much... its a conversation..if you don't want to have it move on down the road...this is a public forum, I think?
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I'm out..this is too rich for my blood! CIAO ;D
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hey wait a minute . . . you all forgot about the new guy who posted like three pages ago. my eyes hurt reading all this stuff. stop quoting every damn post, just post your post and make people connect the lines; make them think for your logic, damn you. and go back and say hey to the new guy. his name was funny, i think.
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well...
I go out for the day and look what I come home to...excellent!!!
there will be cool shows that come along that will have an obvious sensibility to play the Lincoln, given the history...and it will be fun to do those
but, no, I don't think I owe anything to the "community" other than to do a good job, and book shows people want to see, and have them feel proud about having such a cool venue don the street
I mean, I like contributing to the community of DC overall and being a positive part of peoples' lives...I like feeling like I made a difference...I love hearing people say what a great time they had at my venues
I can really only book what's available and out there touring at a given time...these bands are not in a catalog somewhere...it's really just a coincidence that the first bunch are of this perceived type...it was not a calculated target statement, but I have to say it's pretty silly this whole idea of who I "should" book for some reason other than selling tickets
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Can you book the rolling stones with paul maccartney opening at the lincoln? Thanks.
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did not both of those bands steal their entire sound from black musicians? ok, maybe just the stones, so no, wml7. no.
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How about we start a little more modestly like
Lee Fields / Lady
Emile Sande
Lianne La Havas
Menahan Street Band
Micheal Kiwanuka
Solange
but save the return of Sharon Jones for the club :)
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i request one band . . . and yes, seth, this is at you. i request beck, because when beck played the lincoln last time, i found myself unanble to put into words what i had experienced as i walked from my seat to the doors outside. one of few best shows.
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The best thing about this thread is the way Walkies uses commas.
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i hope, you, are not making fun of my commas.
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i request one band . . . and yes, seth, this is at you. i request beck, because when beck played the lincoln last time, i found myself unanble to put into words what i had experienced as i walked from my seat to the doors outside. one of few best shows.
That Beck show would go into my Top 10 list.
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I saw him at the 930 in the 90s and he was not a good performer at all..maybe things changed...
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i saw him at wolftrap too. killer. and at patriot center. on target there as well. beck does not let you down.
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i saw him at wolftrap too. killer. and at patriot center. on target there as well. beck does not let you down.
i think you mean "beck does not let me down"...
his show at 930 was mediocre... anyways he hasn't written a good song in over a decade
the scientology thing really got to him...and fucked him up good.
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no, i think . . . always having to be creative and making sure you never do anyting twice, got to him.
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no, i think . . . always having to be creative and making sure you never do anyting twice, got to him.
is that why he records cover albums now?
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by the way i never understand this baloney about creativity..
i'm listening to the hellacopters doing the best thin lizzy album you never heard (high visibility)..soo so good..a wonderful 70s classic rock record.. all new songs.. so what if its in the style of the 70s classic rock? its a good style..
people always say ac dc plays the same song/album over and over.. so what? its a good frickin' song.
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people always say ac dc plays the same song/album over and over.. so what? its a good frickin' song.
ditto on the ramones
ditto on motorhead
and all 3 are untouchable, on the mt rushmore of rock
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by the way i never understand this baloney about creativity..
i'm listening to the hellacopters doing the best thin lizzy album you never heard (high visibility)..soo so good..a wonderful 70s classic rock record.. all new songs.. so what if its in the style of the 70s classic rock? its a good style..
people always say ac dc plays the same song/album over and over.. so what? its a good frickin' song.
Isn't that what indie rock is all about? Forgetting that music changes and just playing styles from 30 years ago.
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people always say ac dc plays the same song/album over and over.. so what? its a good frickin' song.
Since when has AC/DC put out anything good?
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people always say ac dc plays the same song/album over and over.. so what? its a good frickin' song.
Since when has AC/DC put out anything good?
blasphemer on bon scott's birthday
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Are all shows at the Lincoln G/A?
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Are all shows at the Lincoln G/A?
Nope.. but unfortunately these Tweedy shows are.
Snagged a pair in the onsale today.
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Are all shows at the Lincoln G/A?
Nope.. but unfortunately these Tweedy shows are.
Snagged a pair in the onsale today.
Was Moz?
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Are all shows at the Lincoln G/A?
Nope.. but unfortunately these Tweedy shows are.
Snagged a pair in the onsale today.
Was Moz?
no clue.
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the scientology thing really got to him...and fucked him up good.
He grew up in scientology, his dad has been a scientologist for like 40 years.
So it must've taken quite awhile to sink in.
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Were we talking about scientology?
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we are now.
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Are all shows at the Lincoln G/A?
Nope.. but unfortunately these Tweedy shows are.
Snagged a pair in the onsale today.
Was Moz?
no clue.
Yes.