This seems like an odd place to post this as it's highly doubtful there are any Trump voters who post or even lurk here...am I wrong?always pegged GGW as a supporter, but probably voted for Gary Johnson in 2012
GGW doesn't vote (except in the occasional local election). To be honest, I really don't see much of a difference between Trump and Clinton. Or Sanders and Carson. Or any of them. The American two-party system is exclusively about each party maintaining and expanding their own collective wealth and power. If you think any of these people really give a shit about me, you, or the average Joe, you're an idiot. In theory, their self-interest should overlap with the common good somewhat. But I find it less a Venn diagram than a couple of random boobs floating in their own orbit.
The idea that there would have been no Iraq war in a Gore administration is laughable. It probably would have been better executed, but it still would have happened. Gore was always a hawk. See Iraq 1991 and 1998; see Kosovo; and he and Clinton made use of similarly exaggerated intelligence to justify Kosovo to others. Read Kenneth Pollack to get a sense of just how huge a threat the Clinton team considered Iraq and how certain they also were of Saddam's WMDs. Not to mention the general thirst for blood after 9/11. All the main Dems voted for the Iraq Resolution.
...... First of all a Gore ...and 9-11 might never have happened..I think the probability is much more likely, but OBL fermented his anger under Clinton lest we not forget
I will resist urge to point out that James Ford and Donald Trump seem like two peas in a pod...
I won't.
They are.
Remember that one time he posted here that Sam Harris would make for a good president?
Here's this. (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/12/new-atheism-old-empire/)
The "New Atheists" have been preaching the rhetoric you've been hearing from Trump for the last couple weeks since the Iraq war if not longer.
I will resist urge to point out that James Ford and Donald Trump seem like two peas in a pod...
I won't.
They are.
Remember that one time he posted here that Sam Harris would make for a good president?
Here's this. (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/12/new-atheism-old-empire/)
The "New Atheists" have been preaching the rhetoric you've been hearing from Trump for the last couple weeks since the Iraq war if not longer.
I will resist urge to point out that James Ford and Donald Trump seem like two peas in a pod...
I'm sorry if you're too blind to see the difference between Sam Harris and Donald Trump.
That's kind of like saying Glen Greenwald is part of ISIS just because he's an Islamic apologist.
There's plenty of space in between a nutjob like Donald Trump and a nutjob like Glen Greenwald, and I think Sam Harris (and I) inhabit that space.
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2014/12/05/vicious-and-misleading-atheist-bashing/
http://www.gspellchecker.com/2015/02/luke-savage-doubles-down-on-dishonest-hackery-lukewsavage/
I won't.
They are.
Remember that one time he posted here that Sam Harris would make for a good president?
Here's this. (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/12/new-atheism-old-empire/)
The "New Atheists" have been preaching the rhetoric you've been hearing from Trump for the last couple weeks since the Iraq war if not longer.
I will resist urge to point out that James Ford and Donald Trump seem like two peas in a pod...
I'm sorry if you're too blind to see the difference between Sam Harris and Donald Trump.
That's kind of like saying Glen Greenwald is part of ISIS just because he's an Islamic apologist.
There's plenty of space in between a nutjob like Donald Trump and a nutjob like Glen Greenwald, and I think Sam Harris (and I) inhabit that space.
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2014/12/05/vicious-and-misleading-atheist-bashing/
http://www.gspellchecker.com/2015/02/luke-savage-doubles-down-on-dishonest-hackery-lukewsavage/
ok then speaking honestly and beyond the jokes I don't get your position... is it that there is a disproportionate amount of violent people or ass backwards people in the muslim world? if so, do you have position on what to do about it?
Working with secular and liberal Muslims and "ex-Muslims" who are still connected to the culture to push Islam toward a more progressive direction
First of all a Gore administration would have taken the threat seriously and 9-11 might never have happened
First of all a Gore administration would have taken the threat seriously and 9-11 might never have happened
Apparently you started your Thanksgiving heavy drinking and drug use a couple of days early.
That shits crazier than anything Jaguar ever posted. Are you seriously saying that if Al Gore was elected that 9-11 would not have happened?
I won't.
They are.
Remember that one time he posted here that Sam Harris would make for a good president?
Here's this. (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/12/new-atheism-old-empire/)
The "New Atheists" have been preaching the rhetoric you've been hearing from Trump for the last couple weeks since the Iraq war if not longer.
I will resist urge to point out that James Ford and Donald Trump seem like two peas in a pod...
I'm sorry if you're too blind to see the difference between Sam Harris and Donald Trump.
That's kind of like saying Glen Greenwald is part of ISIS just because he's an Islamic apologist.
There's plenty of space in between a nutjob like Donald Trump and a nutjob like Glen Greenwald, and I think Sam Harris (and I) inhabit that space.
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2014/12/05/vicious-and-misleading-atheist-bashing/
http://www.gspellchecker.com/2015/02/luke-savage-doubles-down-on-dishonest-hackery-lukewsavage/
OK I'm done derailing this thread.not even close,
And here's Noam Chomsky dismissing Sam Harris the way racists like him deserve to be dismissed. (http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-limits-of-discourse)btw that's f'n long and not sure it's as damning to SH considering he posted it on his site
Rhett James Charlie Ford Freely is a racist who mocks the disabled and...wait for it... so is trump. (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34930042)
Here's someone who can see making the (very valid) Harris/Trump comparison: http://youtu.be/IPMSwKbY5ms
And here's Noam Chomsky dismissing Sam Harris the way racists like him deserve to be dismissed. (http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-limits-of-discourse)
OK I'm done derailing this thread.I won't.
They are.
Remember that one time he posted here that Sam Harris would make for a good president?
Here's this. (https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/12/new-atheism-old-empire/)
The "New Atheists" have been preaching the rhetoric you've been hearing from Trump for the last couple weeks since the Iraq war if not longer.
I will resist urge to point out that James Ford and Donald Trump seem like two peas in a pod...
I'm sorry if you're too blind to see the difference between Sam Harris and Donald Trump.
That's kind of like saying Glen Greenwald is part of ISIS just because he's an Islamic apologist.
There's plenty of space in between a nutjob like Donald Trump and a nutjob like Glen Greenwald, and I think Sam Harris (and I) inhabit that space.
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2014/12/05/vicious-and-misleading-atheist-bashing/
http://www.gspellchecker.com/2015/02/luke-savage-doubles-down-on-dishonest-hackery-lukewsavage/
OK I'm done derailing this thread.not even close,the thread was looking for derailmentI think it's important to get ALL the opinions out there, like em or not
I'm not defending Spaett Ford-frelly, but don't recall disabled being on his shit-list
i know exactly what azag is referring to and it's unquestionably mocking a very specific disability.
and to top it off, SF is now pretending he has "no idea where he's coming from with that one".
and pointing this out just depresses me.