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Title: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2019, 12:11:47 pm: Sounds like news is going to drop pretty soon
And all the speculation can stop and we can actually discuss what it contains and if there are any real world consequences

DT "everybody knows it. It's all a big hoax" before seeing it
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 22, 2019, 12:22:16 pm: Hasn't it been about to drop for a long time now? What makes it so imminent?

I still haven't cut my hair. My wife thinks it's totally unattractive. Wild hippie hair is fine for women, but men should be cleaner looking.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Relaxer on March 22, 2019, 12:30:08 pm: "Mueller Reported To Be Wrapping Up Investigation" has been the most repeated headline of the past 18 months, rivaled only by "Aides Say Trump As Angry, Isolated As He's Ever Been"
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2019, 12:36:51 pm: Quote from: Space Freely on March 22, 2019, 12:22:16 pm

I still haven't cut my hair. My wife thinks it's totally unattractive. Wild hippie hair is fine for women, but men should be cleaner looking.
I think she was talking about your pubic hair
Damn is my mind in the gutter today
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 22, 2019, 12:47:20 pm: wasn't rick gates' sentencing delayed again this week "because of ongoing cooperation in several investigations"? (note the plural). sounds like bobby isn't done yet.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on March 22, 2019, 01:07:04 pm: A former U.S. Ambassador to Russia told me yesterday that today was the day because Mueller was already booked on 5 major TV news outlets for this afternoon.

It's probably the most concrete evidence I've heard, and still only think it's 60% true.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on March 22, 2019, 01:09:04 pm: Mueller on TV?!?
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2019, 01:17:00 pm: bets people....I think a date and a time
closest gets to take julian and yada for a beer (yikes guys...can't believe you both went there... WTF it's a music message board for god sakes)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2019, 01:17:32 pm: My bet
4PM 3/22
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 22, 2019, 01:19:05 pm: Quote from: hutch on March 22, 2019, 01:09:04 pm
Mueller on TV?!?

Even bigger news came on Friday: Mueller didn't seem to be in the office at all. Stay tuned to the stakeout feed to see if that means everything — or nothing at all. —Kathryn Krawczyk

https://theweek.com/speedreads/830641/mueller-skipping-lunch-dressing-down--reporters-staking-office-are-pumped
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 22, 2019, 01:36:53 pm: Quote from: vansmack on March 22, 2019, 01:07:04 pm
A former U.S. Ambassador to Russia told me yesterday that today was the day because Mueller was already booked on 5 major TV news outlets for this afternoon.

i don't buy that. the next step for mueller is for him to file a confidential report to the AG. after that, we all wait for the AG to decide what gets shared with the public. while we wait for that decision, mueller will essentially be under gag order. i don't see what the point is of interviewing him - he would have to say "i'm not at liberty to discuss" for 95% of the questions (and 100% of the interesting ones).
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on March 22, 2019, 01:44:16 pm: Doesn’t seem like Mueller’s MO to go on TV!

We know no matter what he finds....
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Relaxer on March 22, 2019, 01:45:29 pm: Mueller isn't going on television today, next week, or ever*

*i.e. until his book comes out in spring of 2023
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on March 22, 2019, 01:48:21 pm: I am not sure he will write a book...the guy is old school
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on March 22, 2019, 02:33:14 pm: Quote from: Space Freely on March 22, 2019, 12:22:16 pm
Hasn't it been about to drop for a long time now? What makes it so imminent?

I still haven't cut my hair. My wife thinks it's totally unattractive. Wild hippie hair is fine for women, but men should be cleaner looking.

do you find it odd, that total strangers, know everything about you; every nuance; every particular . . . just from the years of you posting on here? I find it frightening what they think of me, but you seem to relish in it. People are so oddly different from one another, all while being the same.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 22, 2019, 04:47:42 pm: Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on March 22, 2019, 02:33:14 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on March 22, 2019, 12:22:16 pm
Hasn't it been about to drop for a long time now? What makes it so imminent?

I still haven't cut my hair. My wife thinks it's totally unattractive. Wild hippie hair is fine for women, but men should be cleaner looking.

do you find it odd, that total strangers, know everything about you; every nuance; every particular . . . just from the years of you posting on here? I find it frightening what they think of me, but you seem to relish in it. People are so oddly different from one another, all while being the same.

Yes and no, whatever. It's a little embarrassing, yeah. I don't really think about it. I guess I've been posting on here at least 15 years. Though I don't go to that many shows and though I've managed to alienate more than a few people, I've met a decent amount of boardies and a few I'd even call "friend" (and none would I call "enemy", and still others I' haven't met but would be happy to hang out with.). Enjoy those sours, beer bro.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 22, 2019, 04:48:01 pm: Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2019, 01:17:32 pm
My bet
4PM 3/22

2019 or 2020?
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 22, 2019, 05:10:52 pm: Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2019, 01:17:32 pm
My bet
4PM 3/22

Off by an hour. Shame!
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2019, 05:17:43 pm: Quote from: Justin Tonation on March 22, 2019, 05:10:52 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2019, 01:17:32 pm
My bet
4PM 3/22

Off by an hour. Shame!
but I still win as no one else made a bet!

oh and you losers can suck it for doubting my powers of pre-cognition
Quote from: Space Freely on March 22, 2019, 12:22:16 pm
Hasn't it been about to drop for a long time now? What makes it so imminent?
Quote from: Relaxer on March 22, 2019, 12:30:08 pm
"Mueller Reported To Be Wrapping Up Investigation" has been the most repeated headline of the past 18 months
Quote from: sweetcell on March 22, 2019, 12:47:20 pm
sounds like bobby isn't done yet.
Quote from: vansmack on March 22, 2019, 01:07:04 pm
It's probably the most concrete evidence I've heard, and still only think it's 60% true.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: challenged on March 22, 2019, 05:25:06 pm: Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2019, 05:17:43 pm
Quote from: Justin Tonation on March 22, 2019, 05:10:52 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2019, 01:17:32 pm
My bet
4PM 3/22

Off by an hour. Shame!
but I still win as no one else made a bet!

oh and you losers can suck it for doubting my powers of pre-cognition
Quote from: Space Freely on March 22, 2019, 12:22:16 pm
Hasn't it been about to drop for a long time now? What makes it so imminent?
Quote from: Relaxer on March 22, 2019, 12:30:08 pm
"Mueller Reported To Be Wrapping Up Investigation" has been the most repeated headline of the past 18 months
Quote from: sweetcell on March 22, 2019, 12:47:20 pm
sounds like bobby isn't done yet.
Quote from: vansmack on March 22, 2019, 01:07:04 pm
It's probably the most concrete evidence I've heard, and still only think it's 60% true.

Well done with that prediciton MM!
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on March 22, 2019, 05:42:02 pm: OK but he is going to go on tv?!? That makes no sense

Glad it’s over
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 22, 2019, 10:32:31 pm: And here it is (https://www.scribd.com/document/402800029/Report-from-the-Special-Counsel-Investigation-into-Russian-Interference-During-and-Before-the-2016-Presidential-Election)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on March 22, 2019, 10:59:50 pm: I am scared
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on March 23, 2019, 08:08:23 am: WE GOT HIS ASS!
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on March 23, 2019, 09:39:33 am: We did?
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on March 23, 2019, 09:48:51 am: Yes
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 23, 2019, 10:46:15 am: Quote from: Justin Tonation on March 22, 2019, 10:32:31 pm
And here it is (https://www.scribd.com/document/402800029/Report-from-the-Special-Counsel-Investigation-into-Russian-Interference-During-and-Before-the-2016-Presidential-Election)
Good stuff... always thought smashmouth was central to this conspiracy, but had no idea it dated back to 99
Shocking¡!!!!!!!

Quote from: nkotb on March 23, 2019, 08:08:23 am
WE GOT HIS ASS!
As of right now we got nothing
Wasn't expecting a conviction out of this, but a well documented narrative connecting all the dots on federal paper
Right now the biggest gripe is all these liberal hacks are writing stories that are not on the basis of fact or actual testimony.

I'd like to think that will have a big on some..the independent/swing voter...no hope for the hard core Trump voter

There is a small hope that some in Congress will grow a spine and look at this document and see he is a cheat ,a lier and has activity been involved in criminal activity for longer than he has been president
Not holding my breath...but have some hope
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on March 23, 2019, 12:30:12 pm: Trump is going to resign today 100%. Hes toast
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on March 23, 2019, 02:00:53 pm: We’re toast
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on March 24, 2019, 03:41:26 pm: Sorry meant today.

Quote from: nkotb on March 23, 2019, 12:30:12 pm
Trump is going to resign today 100%. Hes toast
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 24, 2019, 03:54:14 pm: What a fucking waste.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on March 24, 2019, 04:44:50 pm: My sources now confirm it's tomorrow. Sorry for the misinformation.

Quote from: nkotb on March 24, 2019, 03:41:26 pm
Sorry meant today.

Quote from: nkotb on March 23, 2019, 12:30:12 pm
Trump is going to resign today 100%. Hes toast
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 24, 2019, 05:33:08 pm: talk about a NothingBurger
we haven't see the full version yet...
but doesn't look like anything's going to happen
(kinda knew that, but was hoping for a zinger that while had no legal teeth, might sway independents)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: analogfossa on March 25, 2019, 09:33:14 am: Quote from: nkotb on March 24, 2019, 04:44:50 pm
My sources now confirm it's tomorrow. Sorry for the misinformation.

Quote from: nkotb on March 24, 2019, 03:41:26 pm
Sorry meant today.

Quote from: nkotb on March 23, 2019, 12:30:12 pm
Trump is going to resign today 100%. Hes toast

Why would he resign? He just got a massive PR boost regardless of what the report actually says. This, unfortunately, is going to help him with 2020.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 25, 2019, 09:46:48 am: Quote from: AnalogFossa on March 25, 2019, 09:33:14 am
Quote from: nkotb on March 24, 2019, 04:44:50 pm
My sources now confirm it's tomorrow. Sorry for the misinformation.

Quote from: nkotb on March 24, 2019, 03:41:26 pm
Sorry meant today.

Quote from: nkotb on March 23, 2019, 12:30:12 pm
Trump is going to resign today 100%. Hes toast

Why would he resign? He just got a massive PR boost regardless of what the report actually says. This, unfortunately, is going to help him with 2020.

I think you're new to NKOTB's sense of humor. Welcome back NKOTB.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on March 25, 2019, 01:14:47 pm: Thanks, buddy. It's good to be back.

Quote from: Space Freely on March 25, 2019, 09:46:48 am
Quote from: AnalogFossa on March 25, 2019, 09:33:14 am
Quote from: nkotb on March 24, 2019, 04:44:50 pm
My sources now confirm it's tomorrow. Sorry for the misinformation.

Quote from: nkotb on March 24, 2019, 03:41:26 pm
Sorry meant today.

Quote from: nkotb on March 23, 2019, 12:30:12 pm
Trump is going to resign today 100%. Hes toast

Why would he resign? He just got a massive PR boost regardless of what the report actually says. This, unfortunately, is going to help him with 2020.

I think you're new to NKOTB's sense of humor. Welcome back NKOTB.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 26, 2019, 01:37:59 am: for the lawyers here (both of you)

Lawfare: What to Make of Bill Barr’s Letter (https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-make-bill-barrs-letter)

layman's summary: "so you're saying there's still a chance..."
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: K8teebug on March 26, 2019, 08:45:24 am: Great info on Pod Save America. I find it interesting that people are accepting this 4 page summary that came out in 48 hours after an investigation that led to multiple indictments and convictions and was written by an AG who said in his job interview that he would defend the president.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: analogfossa on March 26, 2019, 05:20:37 pm: https://www.businessinsider.com/barr-mueller-report-white-house-executive-privilege-2019-3?utm (https://www.businessinsider.com/barr-mueller-report-white-house-executive-privilege-2019-3?utm)

Donny Boy gets first look, per Graham.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on March 27, 2019, 12:26:23 am: Quote from: sweetcell on March 26, 2019, 01:37:59 am
for the lawyers here (both of you)

I'm not making any comment until I get to read the full report, and I'm still confident that will happen.

Reading the AG report is the same as listening to any talking head extrapolate on it (neither of which I've done).

I've always felt collusion would be very difficult to prove, but obstruction of justice is a completely different game. Probably not enough to remove from office by itself, but combined with other inferences of corruption, a solid case to not re-elect.

Now, just let me read it for myself...
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2019, 07:57:18 am: Quote from: vansmack on March 27, 2019, 12:26:23 am
and I'm still confident that will happen.
are you? After this week, I'm not...
DOJ is trying to take down the ACA

I didn't know trump was getting into comedy

(@realDonaldTrump) The Republican Party will become “The Party of Healthcare!”

What's next, "the party for the environment"
or "the party for unions"
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2019, 08:33:30 am: Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2019, 07:57:18 am
Quote from: vansmack on March 27, 2019, 12:26:23 am
and I'm still confident that will happen.
are you? After this week, I'm not...
DOJ is trying to take down the ACA

I didn't know trump was getting into comedy

(@realDonaldTrump) The Republican Party will become “The Party of Healthcare!”

What's next, "the party for the environment"
or "the party for unions"

""the party for climate change"
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 27, 2019, 04:57:51 pm: Quote from: sweetcell on March 22, 2019, 12:47:20 pm
wasn't rick gates' sentencing delayed again this week "because of ongoing cooperation in several investigations"? (note the plural). sounds like bobby isn't done yet.

TOTAL VINDICATION!!! (https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/politics/mueller-grand-jury-investigation/index.html)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 28, 2019, 01:27:42 pm: is in a range between 300 and 1000 pages....only actual news update since it was delivered on Friday
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 28, 2019, 04:57:07 pm: so the tactic now seems to be to get at the reason for why Muller was brought in

What is silly is there were over 100 documented meetings with Russians, tons of charges/indictments/guilty pleas/lies to Congress and FBI about what happened
and Trump lied to the public that he had no ongoing business interests in Russia...

and the thought seems to be...'well hey we would have learned all this damning news if the Dems made up a story to catch the pres and his team in all these lies/law breaking'

"We will agree to see the Mueller report as long as the other side will agree to show us the communications that took place in deciding to promote this fake allegation against the president and whether there was misuse of their office," Rand Paul continued. "We based this investigation on a lie, we should investigate who the liars were."
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2019, 05:12:43 pm: there was smoke. we investigated to learn the cause, turns out there was no fire.

now that no fire was found, folks are angry that we looked in the first place?

yep, these are the times we're in.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 28, 2019, 05:17:15 pm: I know...isn't that why they call it an investigation>!?!
they didn't say "he's guilty, send him to the Guillotine"

What is annoying me is they act as if 'there was no smoke'

jez...this is smoke enough to have our intelligence agencies to investigate...

“I will tell you this: Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” he said. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

The president was encouraging a foreign adversary to illegally hack into messages by a former secretary of state that might contain sensitive information, then release them publicly.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 30, 2019, 09:56:47 am: Probably not news to people here but I applaud Chris Wallace ( one of the few actual journalist at fox and upholding the honor his family name)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-chris-wallace-muellers-russia-investigation-did-not-start-with-steele-dossier-on-trump

“This will drive some of our viewers nuts,” the Fox News Sunday host noted. “The Trump investigation did not start with the FISA warrant and Carter Page and the dossier.”
Wallace continued: “It started in June and July of 2016 when George Papadopoulos had spoken to a Russian agent and spoke to an Australian diplomat and said he had heard they had information on—dirt on Hillary Clinton.”
“I don’t think there is any doubt they started investigating—I mean, everybody agrees they started investigating in the summer of 2016,” Wallace declared. “Look, I’m not saying what they did was right or any of that but we know that’s when the investigation started. There has been documentation of that.”

Now unfortunately it fell on deaf ears...but I glad there is a little push back on the incorrect narrative that team Trump and the band of "reporters" keep pushing claiming the Steele dossier is the start of this making everything after illigimate
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on March 30, 2019, 05:27:59 pm: So how is everyone feeling about 6 more years of Trump?!?

I don’t know if I can survive it
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 30, 2019, 09:13:40 pm: Quote from: hutch on March 30, 2019, 05:27:59 pm
So how is everyone feeling about 6 more years of Trump?!?

I don’t know if I can survive it

My wife is already bitching about my hair and me looking like Willie Nelson.

I don't know about surviving it either.

Do we really think that Trump can survive six more years? I know his dad lived to be 93, but he was a slimmer man.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 09, 2019, 12:46:23 pm: Barr so far looks to be keeping his mid april reveal

Mueller report to be released within a week, Attorney General William Barr tells Congress (https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-william-barr-mueller-report-hearing-20190409-story.html)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2019, 12:59:03 pm: Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 09, 2019, 12:46:23 pm
Barr so far looks to be keeping his mid april reveal

Mueller report to be released within a week, Attorney General William Barr tells Congress (https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-william-barr-mueller-report-hearing-20190409-story.html)

Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2019, 07:57:18 am
Quote from: vansmack on March 27, 2019, 12:26:23 am
and I'm still confident that will happen.
are you? After this week, I'm not...
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 09, 2019, 01:06:33 pm: Quote from: vansmack on April 09, 2019, 12:59:03 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 09, 2019, 12:46:23 pm
Barr so far looks to be keeping his mid april reveal

Mueller report to be released within a week, Attorney General William Barr tells Congress (https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-william-barr-mueller-report-hearing-20190409-story.html)

Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2019, 07:57:18 am
Quote from: vansmack on March 27, 2019, 12:26:23 am
and I'm still confident that will happen.
are you? After this week, I'm not...

Only the White House gets to see the unredacted version.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 11, 2019, 04:38:30 pm: ruh roh shaggy

Former Obama WH counsel Greg Craig indicted in charges connected to Mueller probe (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/11/politics/greg-craig-indicted-mueller-related/index.html)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2019, 08:56:09 am: Quote from: vansmack on April 09, 2019, 12:59:03 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 09, 2019, 12:46:23 pm
Barr so far looks to be keeping his mid april reveal
Mueller report to be released within a week, Attorney General William Barr tells Congress (https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-william-barr-mueller-report-hearing-20190409-story.html)
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2019, 07:57:18 am
Quote from: vansmack on March 27, 2019, 12:26:23 am
and I'm still confident that will happen.
are you? After this week, I'm not...
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpz81S7usvTIM8w/source.gif)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2019, 09:44:33 am: Does anyone seriously believe after what we have seen and heard from (and of) Barr that he isn’t going to redact the report to make Trump look good?!?

I mean for crying out loud it’s going to have a color coded redaction scheme!

Republicans will argue it was “released” but it will be constrained in such a manner as to misrepresent the facts...Frankly I don’t want it released in this manner...it will do more harm than good to the Republic ...Republicans will just say “You see they asked us to release report and we did and it backs up Barr Summary and democrats are still not happy and they never will be...” and the American people who are acting like lemmings will shrug their shoulder
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2019, 12:18:22 pm: Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2019, 08:56:09 am
Quote from: vansmack on April 09, 2019, 12:59:03 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 09, 2019, 12:46:23 pm
Barr so far looks to be keeping his mid april reveal
Mueller report to be released within a week, Attorney General William Barr tells Congress (https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-william-barr-mueller-report-hearing-20190409-story.html)
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2019, 07:57:18 am
Quote from: vansmack on March 27, 2019, 12:26:23 am
and I'm still confident that will happen.
are you? After this week, I'm not...
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpz81S7usvTIM8w/source.gif)
BREAKING NEWS. Attorney General William P. Barr will release a redacted version of the special counsel’s report Thursday morning to both Congress and the public, a Justice Department spokeswoman said
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 17, 2019, 05:09:00 pm: Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2019, 08:56:09 am
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpz81S7usvTIM8w/source.gif)
Attorney General William Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein will hold a press conference on Thursday at 9:30 a.m. ET to discuss the release of a redacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller's report.

should I be concerned it says this: to discuss the release
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on April 17, 2019, 05:15:17 pm: I just never figured Moishe Rosenstein would go along with this charade. He had me worried for a while but when he agreed to look the other way I told my boy Barr to keep him around.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 18, 2019, 05:27:50 am: (https://media2.giphy.com/media/zNCvzRDgkYQU0/giphy.gif?cid=790b76115cb84109384e6e654d8f857f)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on April 18, 2019, 09:31:58 am: I have it on good authority from my sources that Donald Trump will be stepping down from office effective 2:30 ET today. Buckle your seat belt, folks.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on April 18, 2019, 09:39:45 am: That’s my boy Barr. Great Job. No collusion or anything. Watch on #FoxNews live
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on April 18, 2019, 09:42:44 am: Not even coordination by anyone in Trump campaign.

WOOT!!

I just sealed my reelection

Watch live on #FoxNews
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on April 18, 2019, 09:52:02 am: We are even letting Congress look at unredacted report!!!

#TrumpTrain

Watch live on #FoxNews
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2019, 11:08:44 am: donny love your GOT themed tweet! Does this mean 2020 will kind of be like the Red Wedding?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4cL-2GXsAAIini.jpg)
Odd how you can say that when we STILL haven't even seen the report.

also I love how you are instucting people to watch this only on certain channels FOX and OAN (you really should be looking for a kick back from those guys for all the free press you are giving them)

hadn't heard of this until you mentioned it https://www.oann.com/
is this the new infowars without all the super crazy conspiracy theories

This was an interesting review of the spectacle...

"Bill Barr has decided ... he's fine with his legacy being the AG who took one for the team."@niWallace "It's like parent saying, yeah, my kid vandalized the school but he was frustrated..."
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2019, 11:36:29 am: news is reporting: Redacted Mueller report released

feel free to read it yourself
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/18/708850903/read-the-full-mueller-report-with-redactions
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2019, 02:13:58 pm: yes this is satire, but some good stuff

President Trump did nothing wrong, I think
By Alexandra Petri
(this is her tagline...)
Columnist offering a lighter take on the news and opinions of the day

*Attorney General William P. Barr steps to the lectern.*

Hello, everyone. I am here to repeat the words “no collusion” as many times as I can without sounding suspicious, but first, I would like to thank Rod Rosenstein. He is here standing behind me. He had plans to step back from public service before I came along and asked him to assist me. Then again, some would argue that by assisting me, he did not perform a public service. Anyway, he is here.

I would also like to thank Robert Mueller for making this report for me to redact. I feel like it is a joint creation between the two of us. He is not standing here with me today. Instead, there is a bearded man who, no doubt, is familiar to you all. I will certainly not introduce him at any point. I will leave his identity to your imagination! Worst-case scenario, this will just accustom you to seeing strange facts without context, something that will help you as you consume the report!

The good news is that, although the Russian government did interfere in the 2016 election with hacking and disinformation campaigns, it did not do so literally at the behest of the Trump campaign, in my opinion. Was that the opinion of the Mueller team? Who can say? But if it wasn’t, it should have been, I think. Make no mistake, Russia did interfere to help him, but this effort was just sort of a fun lagniappe. Nobody asked for it.

Really, it was like when you are just sitting on a couch trying to have a nice time and your cat unexpectedly brings you a dead bird. (In this scenario, the dead bird is the American people.) You did not expect it! You don’t even want it. But the cat seemed to think it was a nice gesture. Well, that is how Donald Trump feels about winning this election. In brief, this was not at all coordinated. Anyway, as I think anyone who has been watching the Trump presidency can see, this is not a man who expected to win.

Some more words about the president’s feelings: Speaking as the attorney general of the United States, whose function is to defend the law of the land and not the person of the president, I would like for just a minute to defend the person of the president. You see, he has a lot of feelings and is facing an unprecedented situation. His pain is real, and we should respect it. He has been very frustrated and angry, and, I think, sincerely so. As I have learned from my years in close communion with the law, being very frustrated is a great legal defense against wrongdoing.

Between you and me, he is so lonely. I wish I could convey to you the unspeakable loneliness of his position. The president is not a well man. His doctor, a real doctor, has said we are to keep him from shocks — shocks such as seeing his name in the same sentence as the word “collusion” unaccompanied by the word “no,” or really any sudden experience of extreme feeling. This is why we must not let him stare too long at art that is particularly moving, lest its beauty knock something loose in him and destroy his system entirely. So I ask: If we, if any of us, can just do our part to spare him from hearing the awful word “collusion” that distresses him so much, is there any price we would not pay? Is there any sacrifice we would not make?

I will now take questions.
Q: Where is Mueller?
A: My friend with the beard is here!
Q: What do you say to people who say that you are going out of your way to defend the presidented, talking about how he faces ‘an unprecedented situation’?
A: I would say, is there another precedent for it?
Q: . . . No.
A: Boom! QED! *runs a victory lap around the room, high-fiving anyone who will accept it, but no one will*
Q: Where’s Mueller? Isn’t this Mueller’s report?
A: NO! IT IS MY REPORT, MINE! HE DID IT FOR ME! I AM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL! No more questions, goodbye.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on April 18, 2019, 02:17:14 pm: That’s good!!

Who was the bearded dude?
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2019, 02:28:04 pm: Quote from: Donald Trump on April 18, 2019, 02:17:14 pm
Who was the bearded dude?

he works for you donny
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/beard-guy-ag-barr-press-conference-identified.html
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on April 18, 2019, 02:34:48 pm: I'm being told my source lives in mountain time, so hold onto your hats for 4:30 ET, gang.

Quote from: nkotb on April 18, 2019, 09:31:58 am
I have it on good authority from my sources that Donald Trump will be stepping down from office effective 2:30 ET today. Buckle your seat belt, folks.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on April 18, 2019, 04:15:28 pm: It's taking more time to pack his things than my sources assumed. Looking like tomorrow morning by 10 am.

Quote from: nkotb on April 18, 2019, 02:34:48 pm
I'm being told my source lives in mountain time, so hold onto your hats for 4:30 ET, gang.

Quote from: nkotb on April 18, 2019, 09:31:58 am
I have it on good authority from my sources that Donald Trump will be stepping down from office effective 2:30 ET today. Buckle your seat belt, folks.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2019, 05:27:14 pm: (https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57568494_10105551165571648_5475628804665769984_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=9dfdab9d832c844f939e296f49314c0d&oe=5D2CB354)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 18, 2019, 06:45:32 pm: I am not much paying attention to really, like all of this here report. I take it, like some new tv show I am not watching, because I can not, keep up with everything else out there. I know a little bit about the report, and what it is trying to prove . . . then I don't really care all of a sudden. I find it amusing; like a wonderfully wound novel of what life is all about.

I know the rich and powerful, control everything, and the poor and underprivileged cannot ever make it . . . but I don't know what to do about it, so I just work my job and pretend everything is ok by coming home, drinking a beer, thinking about what the world would be like if everybody just loved everyone else and fully supported everyone else, as if our planet is playing a universal game of futball.

viva earth, bitch . . . viva earth.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2019, 11:26:20 pm: Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2019, 05:27:14 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57568494_10105551165571648_5475628804665769984_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=9dfdab9d832c844f939e296f49314c0d&oe=5D2CB354)
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2019, 11:08:44 am
donny love your GOT themed tweet! Does this mean 2020 will kind of be like the Red Wedding?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4cL-2GXsAAIini.jpg)
funny they connected two of my threads..
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57546502_10157462302536800_8131913292370149376_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=a979f3322ec33f19ff6e065f0ea78e18&oe=5D33AE2C)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 08:44:52 am: not sure why I thought that if people read this report they would see in black and white
1. Trump is dishonest
2. Trump tried to obstruct justice, multiple times
3. Trump asked others to lie/break laws for him...some did and are in Jail now, some didn't because they knew better...but he still asked!
4. Trump knew the Russians were doing something nefarious...and did not inform the FBI

Instead all I hear from the Right, pundits and elected officials
1. It's over, exonerated, no collusion, why are we still talking about this
2. Obama knew about the Russians in 2014, why aren't we holding him accountable
3. This smear campaign to take down this honest hero of America is just reprehensible

Obviously there is a lot more to come
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on April 19, 2019, 09:03:37 am: I think this is the biggest thing* holding Dem's back from any real "resistance" to Republicans...they're still mostly working under the assumption that facts and logic are going to somehow open everyone's eyes to the fact that R's are being hypocrites.

Guess what? They know and they don't fucking care, because at the end of the day, they like and agree with everything happening (huge corp. tax breaks, locking kids in concentration camps, lib triggering, etc.). They're ghouls, so we need to stop acting like they have some inner good we can appeal to and win over.

Whether you like it or not, this shit is a game, and you want your team to win and the other team to lose. And it's getting worse and worse, as Dem's continue to shoot for hail mary's that don't come through and it makes it even easier to deflect on the crooked media or 18 angry democrat, etc. etc.

* Aside for a lack of a backbone and being beholden to corporate interests, of course

Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 08:44:52 am
not sure why I thought that if people read this report they would see in black and white
1. Trump is dishonest
2. Trump tried to obstruct justice, multiple times
3. Trump asked others to lie/break laws for him...some did and are in Jail now, some didn't because they knew better...but he still asked!
4. Trump knew the Russians were doing something nefarious...and did not inform the FBI

Instead all I hear from the Right, pundits and elected officials
1. It's over, exonerated, no collusion, why are we still talking about this
2. Obama knew about the Russians in 2014, why aren't we holding him accountable
3. This smear campaign to take down this honest hero of America is just reprehensible

Obviously there is a lot more to come
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 09:48:27 am: Now that it's out (less than 24 hours) I've decided that I'm going to take a few days and not talk about trump and mueller

This is going to be really hard, but I'm going to call it a mental health holiday
I really need it
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on April 19, 2019, 10:26:45 am: I win!
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 19, 2019, 10:32:21 am: Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 18, 2019, 06:45:32 pm
I am not much paying attention to really, like all of this here report. I take it, like some new tv show I am not watching, because I can not, keep up with everything else out there. I know a little bit about the report, and what it is trying to prove . . . then I don't really care all of a sudden. I find it amusing; like a wonderfully wound novel of what life is all about.

I know the rich and powerful, control everything, and the poor and underprivileged cannot ever make it . . . but I don't know what to do about it, so I just work my job and pretend everything is ok by coming home, drinking a beer, thinking about what the world would be like if everybody just loved everyone else and fully supported everyone else, as if our planet is playing a universal game of futball.

viva earth, bitch . . . viva earth.

This basically and almost perfectly sums up my wife's feelings about all this. I hear this all the time. Except the futball part. And throw in a reference to how Bernie can save us all. And how sexy Bernie is, and how she'd do Bernie and feel the Bern.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on April 19, 2019, 10:46:19 am: That is exactly what I want: let the report get lost in the noise becoming another she said/he said/who gives a fuck!

I win!

Signed,

Donald Trump
King -I mean- President of the “Republic” for life
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on April 19, 2019, 11:25:38 am: We are Bernie Bros, but even my wife doesn't want to fuck Bernie.

Speaking of which, if anyone is in the Alexandria area and wants to come to a Bernie kick-off event, we're hosting one. DM me and I'll send the invite.

Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2019, 10:32:21 am
Quote from: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 18, 2019, 06:45:32 pm
I am not much paying attention to really, like all of this here report. I take it, like some new tv show I am not watching, because I can not, keep up with everything else out there. I know a little bit about the report, and what it is trying to prove . . . then I don't really care all of a sudden. I find it amusing; like a wonderfully wound novel of what life is all about.

I know the rich and powerful, control everything, and the poor and underprivileged cannot ever make it . . . but I don't know what to do about it, so I just work my job and pretend everything is ok by coming home, drinking a beer, thinking about what the world would be like if everybody just loved everyone else and fully supported everyone else, as if our planet is playing a universal game of futball.

viva earth, bitch . . . viva earth.

This basically and almost perfectly sums up my wife's feelings about all this. I hear this all the time. Except the futball part. And throw in a reference to how Bernie can save us all. And how sexy Bernie is, and how she'd do Bernie and feel the Bern.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 11:38:28 am: Quote from: nkotb on April 19, 2019, 11:25:38 am
We are Bernie Bros, but even my wife doesn't want to fuck Bernie.

Speaking of which, if anyone is in the Alexandria area and wants to come to a Bernie kick-off event, we're hosting one. DM me and I'll send the invite.

I'll forward you Hutch's email...he soo wants to go
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on April 19, 2019, 11:41:50 am: I'd be honored to host Hutch at my definitely real home address that I'm giving and not the location of our local landfill.

Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 11:38:28 am
Quote from: nkotb on April 19, 2019, 11:25:38 am
We are Bernie Bros, but even my wife doesn't want to fuck Bernie.

Speaking of which, if anyone is in the Alexandria area and wants to come to a Bernie kick-off event, we're hosting one. DM me and I'll send the invite.

I'll forward you Hutch's email...he soo wants to go
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on April 19, 2019, 11:57:40 am: Bernie ha ha...am really hoping he is the nominee...Crazy Weekend at Bernie has no chance of defeating me and am hoping Crazy Bernie defeats Handsy Joe...The radical left is doing a number on Joe!! Not fair!
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 12:05:14 pm: Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2019, 11:08:44 am
donny love your GOT themed tweet! Does this mean 2020 will kind of be like the Red Wedding?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4cL-2GXsAAIini.jpg)
I know I wasn't going to post about this...but this related to a post I previously did

HBO is not happy (https://tvweb.com/trump-game-of-thrones-hbo-responds/)
"Though we can understand the enthusiasm for Game of Thrones now that the final season has arrived, we still prefer our intellectual property not be used for political purposes."

although no cease and desist or legal action...come on HBO (guess they love the free advertising)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2019, 12:13:30 pm: Quote from: nkotb on April 19, 2019, 11:25:38 am
Speaking of which, if anyone is in the Alexandria area and wants to come to a Bernie kick-off event, we're hosting one. DM me and I'll send the invite.

I always felt that nkotb's return was some sort of Multi-level marketing scheme he was recruiting for. Now it all makes sense.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2019, 12:14:52 pm: Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 12:05:14 pm
I know I wasn't going to post about this...but this related to a post I previously did

2.5 hours. Quite the mental holiday.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on April 19, 2019, 12:19:07 pm: Welcome back Sidehatch!!!
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 19, 2019, 12:19:16 pm: Quote from: Space Freely on April 19, 2019, 10:32:21 am
and how she'd do Bernie and feel the Bern.

i thought bernie saw a doctor about that and got it cleared up...
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 12:19:56 pm: Quote from: vansmack on April 19, 2019, 12:14:52 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 12:05:14 pm
I know I wasn't going to post about this...but this related to a post I previously did

2.5 hours. Quite the mental holiday.
#fakenews The HBO one came up in my feed and felt the need to share with the class
I promise no more posts (on the Mueller rpt)

but more of a disco nap I guess
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2019, 12:22:59 pm: Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 12:19:56 pm

#fakenews The HBO one came up in my feed and felt the need to share with the class
I promise no more posts (on the Mueller rpt)

but more of a disco nap I guess

And what was it that compelled you to click the thread called "The Mueller Report Thread" after posting yet another GoT image? Just to see our reaction?

Just admit it: you can't quit it.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on April 19, 2019, 12:30:11 pm: Just make sure you bring a set of keys if you decided to come to the party

Quote from: vansmack on April 19, 2019, 12:13:30 pm
Quote from: nkotb on April 19, 2019, 11:25:38 am
Speaking of which, if anyone is in the Alexandria area and wants to come to a Bernie kick-off event, we're hosting one. DM me and I'll send the invite.

I always felt that nkotb's return was some sort of Multi-level marketing scheme he was recruiting for. Now it all makes sense.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 12:44:55 pm: Quote from: nkotb on April 19, 2019, 12:30:11 pm
Just make sure you bring a set of keys if you decided to come to the party
Quote from: vansmack on April 19, 2019, 12:13:30 pm
Quote from: nkotb on April 19, 2019, 11:25:38 am
Speaking of which, if anyone is in the Alexandria area and wants to come to a Bernie kick-off event, we're hosting one. DM me and I'll send the invite.
I always felt that nkotb's return was some sort of Multi-level marketing scheme he was recruiting for. Now it all makes sense.
(https://i.imgur.com/juTbO4L.gif)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2019, 12:55:04 pm: Quote from: nkotb on April 19, 2019, 12:30:11 pm
Just make sure you bring a set of keys if you decided to come to the party

See. Now I still wished I live in DC...that's my kind of party.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 19, 2019, 04:19:23 pm: ok, enough with you amateurs... this is lawfare:

What Mueller Found on Russia and on Obstruction: A First Analysis
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-mueller-found-russia-and-obstruction-first-analysis (https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-mueller-found-russia-and-obstruction-first-analysis)

"(The Mueller Report) poses the question of whether this conduct is acceptable—not whether it’s lawful or prosecutable or whether the evidence is admissible, but whether as a nation we choose to accept it, and if not, what means we exercise to reject it."
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 04:45:41 pm: Quote from: vansmack on April 19, 2019, 12:22:59 pm
Just admit it: you can't quit it.
Ok I really can't resist...as there is some really good content out there

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4cAXK4W4AYO4B0.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4cemjjWwAERLZp.png)
So excited for the Joy Division reissue

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4cf5djUUAEDekO.jpg)
Didn't really care for this album, no wonder it was in the cut out section

And no fuckers I'm not going to cite my twitter sources!
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2019, 06:14:58 pm: Quote from: sweetcell on April 19, 2019, 04:19:23 pm
ok, enough with you amateurs... this is lawfare:

"(The Mueller Report) poses the question of whether this conduct is acceptable—

That's the most un-legal thing I've ever read.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 19, 2019, 07:31:11 pm: Quote from: vansmack on April 19, 2019, 06:14:58 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on April 19, 2019, 04:19:23 pm
ok, enough with you amateurs... this is lawfare:

"(The Mueller Report) poses the question of whether this conduct is acceptable—

That's the most un-legal thing I've ever read.

correct, and that's what the authors were going for.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 08:52:03 am: can't believe after two years...still feeling like this is a nothingburger :(
I know it's kicked off a ton of other things...but it would have been nice to have had a definitive conclusion

This is getting interesting with Barr/Muller

Might Barr have perjured himself? (https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-05-01/william-barr-is-cornered-by-robert-mueller)

“Did Bob Mueller support your conclusion?" Van Hollen asked.
"I don't know whether Bob Mueller supported my conclusion,” Barr replied.

Just how honest and candid Barr was with Congress is now in play. As it turns out, Mueller himself wasn’t comfortable with Barr’s take on his work and he wrote to the Justice Department on March 27 to complain about it in detail – almost exactly two weeks before Barr began testifying otherwise to Crist and Van Hollen.
“There is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation,” Mueller wrote. “This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the Department appointed the Special Counsel: to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations.”
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on May 01, 2019, 09:21:39 am: I take it you read the report and felt you couldn’t draw a conclusion?
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 09:54:35 am: Quote from: Joe Biden on May 01, 2019, 09:21:39 am
I take it you read the report and felt you couldn’t draw a conclusion?
my opinion means nothing...I will be honest, I have not read the full report.

Kinda fell like there were no new revelations in this...Trump did everything in public and most had already been reported on.
Was hoping for a smocking gun
What annoys me the most is I've always heard the adage "Ignorance is no excuse" for breaking a law

but in this case..."The Mueller report didn't charge Don Jr., Ivanka Trump, Eric Trump or Jared Kushner with campaign finance violations because Mueller believed that these individuals were too ignorant to know they were breaking the law"
So my understanding is SDNY is taking this up...but I think it would have had a lot more credibility if they were indited on these obviously illegal acts in the Mueller report and more credibility to "they may not have been successful at colluding/conspiring with a foreign adversary...but they tried and that is ILLEGAL"
And yes, no dirt on Trump specifically on that...but when his whole entire election team is serving Jail time...would think that some pro-trumpers might start scratching their head...maybe this wasn't a witch hunt?
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 10:14:12 am: well....there is this

Congressman Al Green @RepAlGreen
·
Apr 30
Within the next 30 minutes, I will announce impeachment plans on the Floor of the House of Representatives. We have a date with destiny. #IndictTrump #ImpeachTrump

Congressman Al Green? wait...weren't you just at JazzFest
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 01, 2019, 12:53:51 pm: Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 10:14:12 am
well....there is this

Congressman Al Green @RepAlGreen
·
Apr 30
Within the next 30 minutes, I will announce impeachment plans on the Floor of the House of Representatives. We have a date with destiny. #IndictTrump #ImpeachTrump

Congressman Al Green? wait...weren't you just at JazzFest

except this isn't new... Rep. Green has introduced resolutions to begin impeachment proceedings many times in the past. it's sorta his shtick. never goes anywhere.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 01, 2019, 12:59:47 pm: Quote from: sweetcell on May 01, 2019, 12:53:51 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 10:14:12 am
well....there is this

Congressman Al Green @RepAlGreen
·
Apr 30
Within the next 30 minutes, I will announce impeachment plans on the Floor of the House of Representatives. We have a date with destiny. #IndictTrump #ImpeachTrump

Congressman Al Green? wait...weren't you just at JazzFest

except this isn't new... Rep. Green has introduced resolutions to being impeachment proceedings many times in the past. it's sorta his shtick. never goes anywhere.
Perhaps he's going to suggest to his colleagues this time "Lets get it on".
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 01:08:04 pm: Quote from: Julian, Thinly-Veiled Outrage IMPRESARIO on May 01, 2019, 12:59:47 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 01, 2019, 12:53:51 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 10:14:12 am
Congressman Al Green @RepAlGreen
Within the next 30 minutes, I will announce impeachment plans on the Floor of the House of Representatives. We have a date with destiny. #IndictTrump #ImpeachTrump

Congressman Al Green? wait...weren't you just at JazzFest

except this isn't new... Rep. Green has introduced resolutions to being impeachment proceedings many times in the past. it's sorta his shtick. never goes anywhere.
Perhaps he's going to suggest to his colleagues this time "Lets get it on".
think it would have been funnier with an actual Al Green song like "Tired of Being Alone" instead of a Marvin Gaye song...
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 01, 2019, 01:22:54 pm: Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 01:08:04 pm
Quote from: Julian, Thinly-Veiled Outrage IMPRESARIO on May 01, 2019, 12:59:47 pm
Quote from: sweetcell on May 01, 2019, 12:53:51 pm
Quote from: Sïdehätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2019, 10:14:12 am
Congressman Al Green @RepAlGreen
Within the next 30 minutes, I will announce impeachment plans on the Floor of the House of Representatives. We have a date with destiny. #IndictTrump #ImpeachTrump

Congressman Al Green? wait...weren't you just at JazzFest

except this isn't new... Rep. Green has introduced resolutions to being impeachment proceedings many times in the past. it's sorta his shtick. never goes anywhere.
Perhaps he's going to suggest to his colleagues this time "Lets get it on".
think it would have been funnier with an actual Al Green song like "Tired of Being Alone" instead of a Marvin Gaye song...
That's the joke.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on May 01, 2019, 02:01:04 pm: Go Hirono
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on May 01, 2019, 02:23:00 pm: Watching Republicans suck Barr’s cock is disgusting

It just shows people are willing to sell and whore out their souls for power

Not a revelation I suppose but still eye opening
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on May 01, 2019, 03:21:38 pm: Do not kink shame.

Quote from: Joe Biden on May 01, 2019, 02:23:00 pm
Watching Republicans suck Barr’s cock is disgusting
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: notme on May 01, 2019, 06:03:47 pm: i have only read the retracted parts.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 01, 2019, 06:13:30 pm: Quote from: nkotb on May 01, 2019, 03:21:38 pm
Do not kink shame.

Quote from: Joe Biden on May 01, 2019, 02:23:00 pm
Watching Republicans suck Barr’s cock is disgusting

For most married guys, a bj probably seems like a once a year rarity, but it really shouldn't be.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: grateful on May 01, 2019, 06:26:43 pm: Quote from: notme on May 01, 2019, 06:03:47 pm
i have only read the retracted parts.

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Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 01, 2019, 07:21:01 pm: Quote from: Space Freely on May 01, 2019, 06:13:30 pm
Quote from: nkotb on May 01, 2019, 03:21:38 pm
Do not kink shame.

Quote from: Joe Biden on May 01, 2019, 02:23:00 pm
Watching Republicans suck Barr’s cock is disgusting

For most married guys, a bj probably seems like a once a year rarity, but it really shouldn't be.

Certified Classic Space™
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 08, 2019, 11:42:12 am: and there we have it...Trump asserts executive privilege over Mueller report
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 08, 2019, 01:38:21 pm: Quote from: stollen-hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 08, 2019, 11:42:12 am
and there we have it...Trump asserts executive privilege over Mueller report

It seems like nobody is going to do anything about him.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on May 08, 2019, 01:44:51 pm: Quote from: Space Freely on May 08, 2019, 01:38:21 pm
It seems like nobody is going to do anything about him.

Or they know they can tie things up in court for a couple years and, hopefully, delay past the 2020 Election. William Barr has wanted this fight over executive privilege since he was in law school....
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 08, 2019, 01:49:30 pm: Quote from: vansmack on May 08, 2019, 01:44:51 pm
Quote from: Space Freely on May 08, 2019, 01:38:21 pm
It seems like nobody is going to do anything about him.

Or they know they can tie things up in court for a couple years and, hopefully, delay past the 2020 Election.
isn't this from the nixon playbook
(I was still nursing at the time...and honestly don't know the story that well)...1972 Americans gave Nixon a landslide, taking 60.7% of the popular vote and carrying 49 states
he holds the record for the widest popular vote margin in any United States presidential election
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/ElectoralCollege1972.svg/1200px-ElectoralCollege1972.svg.png)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on May 08, 2019, 02:01:03 pm: Quote from: stollen-hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 08, 2019, 01:49:30 pm
isn't this from the nixon playbook

Yes and no, but Nixon ultimately quit the fight rather than face impeachment. Trump has shown absolutely no indication to do so, and I doubt he will resign or face impeachment, based on the current evidence. William Barr is working for his perfect man at the moment, and Trump has his perfect AG.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2019, 10:50:44 am: Donny B won't stay quiet any longer
Don Beyer is the first member of Congress from Virginia to call for President Trump's impeachment.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2019, 12:24:53 pm: President Trump told reporters at an impromptu press conference on Wednesday that he will not negotiate with Democrats in Congress on an infrastructure package or other bipartisan policy proposals until they call off their investigations.

nice leverage...no deals until you take the heat off me.

I think he really thinks that the Dems will eventually give up if he keeps being a pain?
I don't think there is any scenario where that happens...but makes for good headlines on why nothing is getting done
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 29, 2019, 12:35:34 pm: "If we had confidence that the president did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
-RM
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 29, 2019, 01:58:20 pm: So we basically live in a country where the person with less votes can win the election in part by breaking the law, and we can't do anything about it.

Great, just great.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on May 29, 2019, 04:22:11 pm: Just got out of a meeting. Did we get his ass?
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on May 29, 2019, 04:43:49 pm: You totally called it!!
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on May 29, 2019, 04:48:08 pm: I had faith in the system and it paid off

Quote from: hutch on May 29, 2019, 04:43:49 pm
You totally called it!!
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 07, 2019, 01:03:56 pm: The House Intelligence Committee announced on Friday that it will hold an open hearing on June 12 covering the "counterintelligence implications" of the Mueller report.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2019, 09:49:59 am: Robert Mueller will testify before Congress on July 17
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 26, 2019, 01:32:07 pm: Quote from: Not my type ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2019, 09:49:59 am
Robert Mueller will testify before Congress on July 17

lefties are getting all excited about this, but my prediction is that this won't end well - certainly not with the "A-HA!" moment Dems are hoping for. i wouldn't be surprised if he brings a copy of the report with him, and the only answers he provides are readings from the report.

there will be national TV coverage, nothing new will emerge, lefties will see their hopes melt away in front of them and will be left dejected and resigned to never getting Trump. not a good place to end up.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2019, 02:25:28 pm: Quote from: sweetcell on June 26, 2019, 01:32:07 pm
Quote from: Not my type ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2019, 09:49:59 am
Robert Mueller will testify before Congress on July 17
i wouldn't be surprised if he brings a copy of the report with him, and the only answers he provides are readings from the report.
I think you are right
but ya never know if you don't ask
I don't think Bob will pull a 5th, or pull a 'I don't recall' tho...
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 26, 2019, 02:54:43 pm: Quote from: Not my type ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2019, 02:25:28 pm
I don't think Bob will pull a 5th, or pull a 'I don't recall' tho...

nope, but i could see him saying "not in the report, so i don't have an answer for you." the Dems are not going to sanction/fine/etc. Mueller, so he can say (or not say) whatever he wants.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 26, 2019, 02:59:53 pm: food for thought: 7 key questions Congress needs to ask Robert Mueller (https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/26/politics/robert-mueller-congress-testify-donald-trump-russia/index.html)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 22, 2019, 03:31:44 pm: Robert Mueller's Capitol Hill testimony
Date: Wednesday, July 24, 2019
Times: 8:30 a.m. – House Judiciary Committee hearing;
12:00 p.m. – House Intelligence Committee hearing

I'm not holding my breath...but maybe we'll uncover something not yet known

although this doesn't make me feel that hopeful
Democratic staff members of the committees say they anticipate "yes" or "no" answers from the former special counsel

Is president trump a crook?
Yes
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 22, 2019, 04:46:15 pm: Quote from: Yoba Hatch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 22, 2019, 03:31:44 pm
Robert Mueller's Capitol Hill testimony
Date: Wednesday, July 24, 2019
Times: 8:30 a.m. – House Judiciary Committee hearing;
12:00 p.m. – House Intelligence Committee hearing

I'm not holding my breath...but maybe we'll uncover something not yet known

although this doesn't make me feel that hopeful
Democratic staff members of the committees say they anticipate "yes" or "no" answers from the former special counsel

Is president trump a crook?
Yes

"It is also shaping up as a risk for Democrats if the taciturn Mueller does not provide explosive testimony that could deal a blow to the President. The hearing seems just as likely to increase pressure from liberals on an unwilling House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to initiate impeachment hearings as it is to deflate Democrats' effort to severely damage Trump before the 2020 election." (source (https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/22/politics/robert-mueller-donald-trump-democrats-russia-investigation/index.html))
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on July 22, 2019, 05:30:21 pm: People know what happens if he survives an impeachment hearing, right?
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 22, 2019, 05:35:12 pm: Quote from: vansmack on July 22, 2019, 05:30:21 pm
People know what happens if he survives an impeachment hearing, right?

memories are short. emotions run long...
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on July 24, 2019, 09:21:31 am: What a debacle

Republicans are eviscerating a way past his shelf life Mueller
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on July 24, 2019, 09:54:47 am: Been in meetings, but I'll assume we got his ass?
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 24, 2019, 10:02:27 am: yeah caught the first 45 on the drive in
my favorite part is when he called him Trimp

not sure this is going to help at all

As Mueller stated...I can't talk about things that are ongoing (indictments/trials)...so pretty much all the juicy stuff

It is crazy times that you can have 2 people in prison from trumps campaign (on issues related to this) and people can look at that and say 'Trump is squeaky clean' total 'witch hunt'
if your lawyer and campaign manager are in prison...not allegedly committed a crime...but, convicted of one...how can that not be a smocking gun?

but it's good to get some of this stuff on record
I think the democrats are shedding some light on certain parts, but it will all get lost in the 12 hours of talking

one gentlewoman from CA stated....We still haven't seen the unredacted report, so how can we say we've 'seen the report'
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on July 24, 2019, 12:35:07 pm: Total waste of time...all it did was give Republicans a chance to trash him and define him as gaga
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 24, 2019, 12:35:56 pm: yep...
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2019, 12:50:57 pm: It's not as if Mueller didn't warn everyone about what was going to happen...
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on July 24, 2019, 12:54:51 pm: I must have missed Mueller saying don’t question me cause I am “kind of out of it”

The first 90 minutes were brutal. It’s not that he didn’t expand on the report...it’s that he seemed a bit senile...that was the damaging part

I guarantee anyone even sympathetic towards him watching the first 90 minutes felt sorry for him and turned it off...it was painful

It was like watching someone you heard was the man having a 90 minute senior moment

As usual democrats strategy backfired
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 24, 2019, 01:31:42 pm: TIME TO JUST ITMFA.

This is NOT HELPING.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on July 24, 2019, 01:34:46 pm: Impeachment?

That’s over thanks to Mueller
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: gavroche on July 24, 2019, 01:48:51 pm: Quote from: hutch on July 24, 2019, 01:34:46 pm
Impeachment?

That’s over thanks to Pelosi

Fixed that for you
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 24, 2019, 01:50:55 pm: Quote from: hutch on July 24, 2019, 01:34:46 pm
Impeachment?

That’s over thanks to Mueller
I definitely don't think it's over re: impeachment

I think it's foolish to get it started and end up in the Senate to die on arrival...

So I think it's a better plan to have the Impeachment trial start in the summer of 2020, in the middle of the RNC and conclude at the end of October before the Senate gets it
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: gavroche on July 24, 2019, 03:38:05 pm: Quote from: I direct you to what’s in the report on July 24, 2019, 01:50:55 pm
Quote from: hutch on July 24, 2019, 01:34:46 pm
Impeachment?

That’s over thanks to Mueller
I definitely don't think it's over re: impeachment

I think it's foolish to get it started and end up in the Senate to die on arrival...

So I think it's a better plan to have the Impeachment trial start in the summer of 2020, in the middle of the RNC and conclude at the end of October before the Senate gets it

Depends on what you think you can achieve from impeachment. Seems to me that there are two big downsides to waiting. 1) The closer you get to the election the more it seems like a political stunt 2) impeachment is a valuable tool for getting information, and so by postponing you are limiting your ability to use it.

I personally think a long, drawn out impeachment is best, just have a ton of impeachment hearings and don't rush the vote.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 24, 2019, 04:09:08 pm: Quote from: gavroche on July 24, 2019, 03:38:05 pm
Depends on what you think you can achieve from impeachment.
Well what I want and what can be achieved are two different things
but I know it's chances of success in the senate are about as likely as Michelle Pfeiffer trying to hook up with guests at one of Epstein's parties

So finishing the impeachment trial in the House should not happen any time before Nov 2020
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2019, 04:28:08 pm: Quote from: I direct you to what’s in the report on July 24, 2019, 04:09:08 pm
So finishing the impeachment trial in the House should not happen any time before Nov 2020

Zero chance of that. Too many Democrats currently in office need to be back home running for re-election to be spending time in DC from summer recess on. Most constituents not on the coasts want to see that their representative cares about their local issues, not wasting time on a surely failed process that the voters will have decided long before it fails in the Senate.

I know the progressives hate this, but Pelosi is playing this right. She waited until the Mueller report, which didn't contain enough damning evidence to put the Senate into a bind when it came their turn to decide. Losing an impeachment case would embolden Trump, embolden his base even more, and generally be seen as bad for the country. Look at the impact a failed impeachment move had on Newt in 1998 as evidence.

Best to keep pressing him on his unmet promises, develop a winning economic strategy for the rust belt and swing states, and focus on the best way to remove Trump from office, and that is victory on Nov 3, 2020.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on July 24, 2019, 04:31:12 pm: The main problem democrats continue to have - and this has been the case since the Hillary is going to destroy Trump days- is a failure to understand reality

First we heard Trump would resign then the deep state would take him down then Stormy then the Southern District of NY then Cohen then Mueller Report then Mueller testimony then impeachment

It’s embarrassing as the only thing that will take him down is the ballot box

But people just can’t accept that...let’s blame Pelosi!!
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: gavroche on July 24, 2019, 06:19:44 pm: Quote from: hutch on July 24, 2019, 04:31:12 pm
then impeachment

It’s embarrassing as the only thing that will take him down is the ballot box

The question is whether impeachment helps take him down at the ballot box. Pelosi thinks no. I am not alone in thinking having the investigation, and the additional information they are likely to find (including making it more likely that they get his tax returns), would help them in 2020.

You can make credible arguments either way, depending on what history you think is relevant. That said, I think doing it further away from the election would be more beneficial to them and that they have probably missed their window.

This is all about winning in 2020 though (it's not like anyone wants Pence).
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 24, 2019, 08:24:23 pm: Quote from: gavroche on July 24, 2019, 06:19:44 pm
(it's not like anyone wants Pence).
you know I don't like pence and there would be some serious religion in gov't stuff I wouldn't like
but I would take him over Trump for sure
there is no way he'd win reelection
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: WALKonBack on July 24, 2019, 09:05:18 pm: You would take Pence over, mister faking it for fun Trump? I, hate you, for realz. Either you understand why Pence is the dark hole, or I, still hate you.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 25, 2019, 08:47:18 am: pence is one backwards m-fer. but he would not be as bad as trump

he wouldn't be able to get gay-concentration camps approved although the ten commandments might end up on my drivers license

He wouldn't be the cult of personality that trump is and wouldn't be able to get anything done
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on July 25, 2019, 09:22:25 am: Maybe...I do worry that through like a contact high, he'd have some residual MAGA strength, especially if Trump was removed or died (KILLED BY THE DEEP STATE).

But my bigger worry is getting a psycho like him in office, who adheres to the Norms, would have most Dems bending over backwards to work with him, and breathing a sigh of relief that, while we may disagree on policy, it's nice to have things sane again. I mean, they already give Trump a blank check all while mentioning that he's a unique horror that's propped up by foreign governments.

EDIT: Quick edit to confirm, however, that if Trump does die, I'm immediately heading to the first bar I can find and buying a round for everyone. Fuck these pigs.

Quote from: I direct you to what’s in the report on July 25, 2019, 08:47:18 am
pence is one backwards m-fer. but he would not be as bad as trump

he wouldn't be able to get gay-concentration camps approved although the ten commandments might end up on my drivers license

He wouldn't be the cult of personality that trump is and wouldn't be able to get anything done
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 25, 2019, 09:28:16 am: Be careful what you say on the internet.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: nkotb on July 25, 2019, 09:31:09 am: Renditioned to a Black Ops site for Truth

Quote from: Space Freely on July 25, 2019, 09:28:16 am
Be careful what you say on the internet.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: K8teebug on July 25, 2019, 10:07:54 am: It's the duty of congress to impeach.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/impeachment-trump/580468/
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on July 25, 2019, 02:41:36 pm: Quote from: K8teebug on July 25, 2019, 10:07:54 am
It's the duty of congress to impeach.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/impeachment-trump/580468/

Such a bold, straightforward statement: "With a newly seated Democratic majority, the House of Representatives can no longer dodge its constitutional duty."

Then the author immediately explains it isn't actually true:

"Although the process is fairly clear, the Founders left us only vague instructions about when to implement it."

The Speaker of the House is under no compulsory, statutory duty to start an impeachment process. Even the author agrees "This is where the dual nature of impeachment as both a legal and a political process comes into sharpest focus." And he cited the leading authority on the case from the Nixon days, Bill Weld: "In the end, Weld came to believe that impeachment is a political process, aimed at determining whether a president has fallen short of the duties of his office."

But the author does a fantastic job at revisiting the history of impeachments in the US. I really enjoyed that part.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2019, 04:02:25 pm: well, well, well and we thought this was done

Howell rules that DOJ must provide the House the grand jury material redacted form Mueller's report by Oct. 30.

also in this The key quote from Howell: "Even in cases of presidential impeachment, a House resolution has never, in fact, been
required to begin an impeachment inquiry."

I know....this means nothing and all the original unredacted copies will go missing or something
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: vansmack on October 26, 2019, 07:13:27 pm: Quote from: vansmack on March 27, 2019, 12:26:23 am

I'm not making any comment until I get to read the full report, and I'm still confident that will happen.

......

Now, just let me read it for myself...

Just going to move this back up near the top....
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 29, 2019, 08:01:38 pm: The most important document you may ever read (https://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/the-most-important-document-you-may-ever-read?utm_source=morningheadlines&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletters&utm_content=10%2F15%2F2019&fbclid=IwAR24uaxGHyh620LUNyfEA3xM7cTTLmlTVM3CKVLWEwYTwuN3GiHq1I0-E18)

so this got, like, zero press... wtf?

(apologies if this has been posted previously)
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 30, 2019, 01:51:18 pm: Quote from: sweetcell on October 29, 2019, 08:01:38 pm
The most important document you may ever read (https://www.rollcall.com/news/opinion/the-most-important-document-you-may-ever-read?utm_source=morningheadlines&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletters&utm_content=10%2F15%2F2019&fbclid=IwAR24uaxGHyh620LUNyfEA3xM7cTTLmlTVM3CKVLWEwYTwuN3GiHq1I0-E18)

so this got, like, zero press... wtf?
it got some press, but there were so many bombshells coming out from the Impeachment inquiry and giuliani's goons (happened like a day after) that it was hard to digest more than 10 news items a day

The report corroborates past findings that's the problem...no big headlines to run
There were GOP people on this committee too...but the party line at the GOP is protect the president, so that means, we can't have any focus that might be on Russia and the elections

and the GOP redoubled it's efforts to 'investigate the investigators" which now has evolved into "Where’s the Whistleblower?" and the "House is not following the 'rules'"

George Conway's tweet on this was spot on
George Conway @gtconway3d
“The bank’s being robbed!” You take your phone, and you tweet at the NYPD that there’s a bank robbery in progress. (That’s hearsay, by the way.) The cops come, they interview the witnesses, they get video of the crime, and they even get confessions from the robbers.

They don’t talk to you. And they don’t need to. They have all the evidence they need.

For the same reason, Congress doesn’t need to talk to the whistleblower. They have many other witnesses. They have the memo of your call. And you, Rudy, and Mulvaney have all confessed.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 10, 2020, 11:26:38 pm: this thread was getting dusty...in all the coronavirus frenzy...this might have gotten missed

BREAKING: Dems are going to get the unredacted material from The Mueller Report.

will it actually matter?
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 11, 2020, 01:02:24 pm: Quote from: Sidehätchenfreude ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llı on March 10, 2020, 11:26:38 pm
this thread was getting dusty...in all the coronavirus frenzy...this might have gotten missed

BREAKING: Dems are going to get the unredacted material from The Mueller Report.

will it actually matter?

not a bit. i mean, they're not going to find anything game-changing in there. i'm sure they'll find a few embarrassing details and they'll attempt to weaponize it, but what the hell is going to stick to teflon don? nothing so far, why would that change?
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 20, 2020, 05:45:50 pm: SCOTUS being difficult

The Supreme Court on Wednesday denied a request from House Democrats for immediate access to redacted grand jury materials from former special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: hutch on May 20, 2020, 05:48:17 pm: I cannot believe you take this Court seriously still

They are never going to do anything to endanger Trump..same on taxes which you posted about

Think of it as a Republican court..that is what it is
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 20, 2020, 05:55:50 pm: well I don't know...I kinda take them seriously...but you are right

Although this makes me feel better ....

Uncle Blazer@blakesmustache
As expected, SCOTUS just granted DOJ’s request to file a formal request to block release of Mueller’s grand jury materials.

The GREAT NEWS is that the filing is due in 10 days (June 1), indicating that SCOTUS *will* hear this case in July and decide it before the election.
Keep in mind you usually get 90 days to file for a writ of cert. SCOTUS gave DOJ only ten days. The House is seeking Mueller’s grand jury materials as part of an impeachment inquiry and the Congressional term is ending, so SCOTUS is treating the case with the urgency is deserves.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 20, 2020, 06:06:23 pm: It has went largely unnoticed but their refusal to hear that case about qualified immunity for police officers who STOLE items listed on a search warranty is possibly the worst, most catastrophic "ruling" since Citizen's United.
Title: Re: The Mueller report thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 20, 2021, 05:14:19 pm: Justice Dept is quietly seeking a 50-year bar to release of grand jury material - a rule which, if adopted by the courts, would keep Mueller-Trump records secret until 2069...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/grand-jury-secrecy-gag-orders/2021/07/19/22585580-e898-11eb-8950-d73b3e93ff7f_story.html

Are you fucking kidding me!