we should probably start an impeachy thread...
Remember when incel type guys were able to bag wives from less privileged countries simply because the women would marry them because they wanted to be Americans? It seems like Trump is making us into a country less desirable to come to and in turn these incels are never going to find wives.My God, if he loses the mail order bride voting bloc, he's really in trouble.
What happens now that the Administration won't let witnesses be deposed? Federal Court gets involved? How? Any impeachment/con law scholars on here?I see what you did there....
and Nixon was unjustly impeached?
What are the odds that Trump is not impeached, does not resign, is re-elected, and things get much worse for at least four years?sadly the odds are not that bad on that
This seems foolish in that it will give loony Giuliani a chance to lie on the floor of congress...which he is sure to do and then face legal issues with that lieok...that was a blip...back to your talk about smoking joints onstage
Lindsey Graham tweeted Tuesday that he would offer Rudy Giuliani a chance to testify before the committee about his "concerns" that Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire a prosecutor investigating his son.
Also, can someone give me a good reason not to have the dems have a vote to begin the impeachment process
one line of reasoning is Trump wants to force House Democrats in vulnerable races to be on the record
My understanding that Pelosi can hold the vote, but still not grant GOP wishes to grandstand on the floor and issue useless soapens
I know this is soo last week (which might as well be last decade with the news cycle of late)
"If we want to do it, we'll do it. If we don't, we don't," Pelosi told the Atlanta Journal Constitution's editorial board Friday. "But we're certainly not going to do it because of the President."
Rudy's underlings arrested for campaign finance violations.This is getting crazy and looks like there are fingerprints everywhere
Let's hope the Feds get them to sing like canaries... Work their way up the ladder.
It would be better if it misspelled a word...yeah, but then you would have thought I made it
Would have never thought Bolton might be the one to bring things down...but these are some juicy quotes from Hill's testomony on the hill
“I am not part of whatever drug deal Rudy and Mulvaney are cooking up”
"Giuliani’s a hand grenade who’s going to blow everybody up,"
Meanwhile, the top story on FOX online is Lebron coming out as a Communist.
Lebron's lifetime Nike contract is valued at 1 Billion. When Nike tells you to shill, you shill.Meanwhile, the top story on FOX online is Lebron coming out as a Communist.
I got to say Lebron’s comments are so cowardly....I was kind of shocked
Well, I mean the oppressed people in China aren't black so . . .Lebron's lifetime Nike contract is valued at 1 Billion. When Nike tells you to shill, you shill.Meanwhile, the top story on FOX online is Lebron coming out as a Communist.
I got to say Lebron’s comments are so cowardly....I was kind of shocked
this is a good follow upWould have never thought Bolton might be the one to bring things down...but these are some juicy quotes from Hill's testomony on the hill
“I am not part of whatever drug deal Rudy and Mulvaney are cooking up”
"Giuliani’s a hand grenade who’s going to blow everybody up,"
His commentary is spot on...
@Zeddary
Whatever happens, Bolton isn't the hero, get it?
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Bolton looked at a criminal conspiracy to extort a vulnerable, war-torn proto-democracy for domestic political ends and concluded 'this will seriously take away from my valuable war mongering time, no thank you.' THAT'S IT.
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Fiona Hill may well merit commendation. NOT BOLTON!
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I will give Bolton the smallest of props for knowing to sabotage his fellow parasites by name with a quote memorable enough to show up on a Call of Duty death screen.
they are actually running with this nowQuotecopyhatchman you really know how to hurt a guy
Um, get over it.
Edit...it's real President Trump's 2020 campaign says it's releasing a line of merchandise featuring a new slogan: "Get over it."
Edit...it's real President Trump's 2020 campaign says it's releasing a line of merchandise featuring a new slogan: "Get over it."
there is no bottom.
this is further evidence of trump's, and the GOP's, strategy of "it can't be illegal if you do it out in the open." maybe trump really could normalize murder on 5th avenue.
there is no bottom.
not even thenEdit...it's real President Trump's 2020 campaign says it's releasing a line of merchandise featuring a new slogan: "Get over it."
there is no bottom.
this is further evidence of trump's, and the GOP's, strategy of "it can't be illegal if you do it out in the open." maybe trump really could normalize murder on 5th avenue.
there is no bottom.
I think his base likely believes "It aint illegal if they don't mention it in the bible."
So how soon do we expect Mick Mulvaney and Rudy to end up in the 'fired/retired' thread
totally shallow of me...but I want to know more about Svetlana Parnas
totally shallow of me...but I want to know more about Svetlana Parnas
or, you know, just do a Google Image search on Svetlana Parnas...Of course I did....
I bet the carpet doesn't match the drapes, if there is one.Can confirm, there is no carpet
or, you know, just do a Google Image search on Svetlana Parnas...Of course I did....
I was trying to figure out who the blonde walking into the court with him was...ya know, important stuffI bet the carpet doesn't match the drapes, if there is one.Can confirm, there is no carpet
Nothing says class like an Ukrainian whore
i suspect that Pelosi doesn't want to be bossed around. she wants to snub the GOP.welp...snub time is over
ghouliani strikes again (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/giuliani-butt-dials-nbc-reporter-heard-discussing-need-for-cash-and-trashing-bidens/ar-AAJmKVC?ocid=msn360).Rudy and his phone....I bet there is a goldmine of stuff on there too
i can't smack my forehead hard enough...
ghouliani strikes again (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/giuliani-butt-dials-nbc-reporter-heard-discussing-need-for-cash-and-trashing-bidens/ar-AAJmKVC?ocid=msn360).Rudy and his phone....I bet there is a goldmine of stuff on there too
i can't smack my forehead hard enough...
Rudy Giulihttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rudy-giuliani-needed-apple-genius-help-unlock-his-iphone-after-n1074241ani needed Apple genius help to unlock his iPhone (http://)
do0d, you murdered that linkCan Confirm...with extreme prejudice
can someone help me understand the following GOP talking point: "the whistleblower is partisan, we need to ID him/her so we can verify his bias, his political motivation - this person is clearly anti-trump".it doesn't matter, logic is not allowed to be used in these arguments
While I support impeachment at the end of the day I hope he is defeated at the ballot box.
And justice for all.To be fair, I hate this sort of stuff. This person isn't really qualified for this. This is like Joe The Plumber getting an ambassadorship.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50315490
So you do have a point, but it's very symbolic and Dems get so few 'poke them in the eye' momentsAnd justice for all.To be fair, I hate this sort of stuff. This person isn't really qualified for this. This is like Joe The Plumber getting an ambassadorship.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50315490
And justice for all.To be fair, I hate this sort of stuff. This person isn't really qualified for this. This is like Joe The Plumber getting an ambassadorship.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50315490
Also, this woman received an MBA in Marketing from Johns Hopkins University in 1998. Joe the Plumber served in the Air Force for four years and seems to have never taken a college course. Color me elitist, but I'd hire someone with an MBA from Hopkins before I would someone with no college education.Fair enough. My analogy was hyperbolic.
What happened to when they go low, we go high?I know this is strange coming from me...I'm so tired of getting(going) High
If he is impeached and removed before election day 2020, does that disqualify him from running/being elected in 2020, or afterwards?No.
If he is impeached and removed before election day 2020, does that disqualify him from running/being elected in 2020, or afterwards?No.
If he is impeached and removed before election day 2020, does that disqualify him from running/being elected in 2020, or afterwards?No.
I have an impeachment question.well I think Jules is correct, but the timing would be tricky
If he is impeached and removed before election day 2020, does that disqualify him from running/being elected in 2020, or afterwards?
Trump’s allies want to try to counter potentially damaging testimony by U.S. diplomats during next week’s public hearings by presenting the whistleblower as a partisan figure who helped Democrats launch an impeachment inquiry that had long been considered, according to House of Representatives Republican aides and strategists.
“The Republican issue with the whistleblower is that there seems to be an inherently political motive behind what he said and did and presented,” said a Republican Party official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
“It fits in the larger narrative that this has been a partisan effort from the beginning,” the official said.
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Conservative news articles purporting to identify the whistleblower have sought to link the person with Joe Biden and “deep state” conspirators within the Obama administration who some Republicans say were determined to undermine Trump’s candidacy when he was running for office and later his presidency.
“They’re trying to define the impeachment hearings as political before they begin. It helps fire up the base and tries to tint the testimony before it actually takes place,” said Republican strategist Ron Bonjean.
DEFLECTION
Aides and strategists say the aim of the push to unmask the whistleblower is to deflect voter attention away from impeachment testimony and cast doubt on the Democratic-led proceedings.
“Republican voters want to stick with their tribe and defend the president, and they need something to go on. This gives strong Trump voters something to say when the actual request to Ukraine is indefensible,” said Republican strategist Rory Cooper, who was a top aide to former House Majority Leader Eric Cantor.
It’s because they hate you so muchI know, I can feel it in every ALL CAPS tweet
in case anyone needed another reason to impeach this MF'er....
is everyone aware of the #MAGAchallenge? if you aren't, here is your intro (https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1194704735896559617).
then, check out "School shooters, pedophiles, and vaccines / today is it really hard to be a teen" (https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1192882744461840384).
here is a good compilation (https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1192882744461840384). or just jump into the whole #magachallenge tag (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MAGAChallenge).
pro-tip: save this for when you have a moment to indulge... this is a rabbit hole that could take some time to get out of. you've been warned.
"the ultimate self-own".
I started watching some of these while sitting at home on my couch and my dog started barking at it in a disturbed way.
in case anyone needed another reason to impeach this MF'er....
is everyone aware of the #MAGAchallenge? if you aren't, here is your intro (https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1194704735896559617).
then, check out "School shooters, pedophiles, and vaccines / today is it really hard to be a teen" (https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1192882744461840384).
here is a good compilation (https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1192882744461840384). or just jump into the whole #magachallenge tag (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MAGAChallenge).
pro-tip: save this for when you have a moment to indulge... this is a rabbit hole that could take some time to get out of. you've been warned.
"the ultimate self-own".
Drumpf advisor Roger Stone has been found guilty on all charges!
I read today this and I don't know how this isn't out there every day.
I think the DNC should just take an ads out daily and just have this text on the screen for 30 seconds
Simple facts...
@brianklaas
Drumpf's campaign chair: felon
Drumpf's deputy campaign chair: felon
Drumpf's foreign policy adviser: felon
Drumpf's national security adviser: felon
Drumpf's personal lawyer: felon
Drumpf's longstanding political adviser: felon
you know a lot about a person by the company they keep
Drumpf advisor Roger Stone has been found guilty on all charges!
I read today this and I don't know how this isn't out there every day.
I think the DNC should just take an ads out daily and just have this text on the screen for 30 seconds
Simple facts...
@brianklaas
Drumpf's campaign chair: felon
Drumpf's deputy campaign chair: felon
Drumpf's foreign policy adviser: felon
Drumpf's national security adviser: felon
Drumpf's personal lawyer: felon
Drumpf's longstanding political adviser: felon
you know a lot about a person by the company they keep
DEEP
STATE
MANGA!
Drumpf advisor Roger Stone has been found guilty on all charges!
I read today this and I don't know how this isn't out there every day.
I think the DNC should just take an ads out daily and just have this text on the screen for 30 seconds
Simple facts...
@brianklaas
Drumpf's campaign chair: felon
Drumpf's deputy campaign chair: felon
Drumpf's foreign policy adviser: felon
Drumpf's national security adviser: felon
Drumpf's personal lawyer: felon
Drumpf's longstanding political adviser: felon
you know a lot about a person by the company they keep
DEEP
STATE
MANGA!
did you mean Deep State comics (https://www.comixology.com/Deep-State/comics-series/28281)?
or, given that this is a (supposedly) music-related board, perhaps you were referring to Deep State/Tohoku Manga (https://www.amazon.com/Deep-State-Tohoku-Manga-Blabbermouth/dp/B07C2X5BW6)?
Drumpf advisor Roger Stone has been found guilty on all charges!
I read today this and I don't know how this isn't out there every day.
I think the DNC should just take an ads out daily and just have this text on the screen for 30 seconds
Simple facts...
@brianklaas
Drumpf's campaign chair: felon
Drumpf's deputy campaign chair: felon
Drumpf's foreign policy adviser: felon
Drumpf's national security adviser: felon
Drumpf's personal lawyer: felon
Drumpf's longstanding political adviser: felon
you know a lot about a person by the company they keep
DEEP
STATE
MANGA!
did you mean Deep State comics (https://www.comixology.com/Deep-State/comics-series/28281)?
or, given that this is a (supposedly) music-related board, perhaps you were referring to Deep State/Tohoku Manga (https://www.amazon.com/Deep-State-Tohoku-Manga-Blabbermouth/dp/B07C2X5BW6)?
MANGEA!
Drumpf advisor Roger Stone has been found guilty on all charges!
I read today this and I don't know how this isn't out there every day.
I think the DNC should just take an ads out daily and just have this text on the screen for 30 seconds
Simple facts...
@brianklaas
Drumpf's campaign chair: felon
Drumpf's deputy campaign chair: felon
Drumpf's foreign policy adviser: felon
Drumpf's national security adviser: felon
Drumpf's personal lawyer: felon
Drumpf's longstanding political adviser: felon
you know a lot about a person by the company they keep
DEEP
STATE
MANGA!
did you mean Deep State comics (https://www.comixology.com/Deep-State/comics-series/28281)?
or, given that this is a (supposedly) music-related board, perhaps you were referring to Deep State/Tohoku Manga (https://www.amazon.com/Deep-State-Tohoku-Manga-Blabbermouth/dp/B07C2X5BW6)?
MANGEA!
Mangea (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mangea)
She also said I could do it in writing.
Anybody watching Sondland? Not sure how anybody could argue that this is boring...following via twitter and looking like Sondy is going rogue and spilling the beans
Also, I cannot spell Zelensky.You just know in his senility he thinks he's talking about Dan Aykroyd's character from Tommy Boy.
https://twitter.com/GettyImagesNews/status/1197202729334128642
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ1QvjgWkAIl4j9?format=jpg&name=small)
Also, I cannot spell Zelensky.
There was an article earlier this month that alleges he has very poor vision but refuses to wear reading glasses in public because of his ego/image and so the person who runs his twitter when he's in the Oval has to hand him print outs of potential tweets in, like, 48point-font for him to approve, which also the explains the "more pictures, less text" thing too.https://twitter.com/GettyImagesNews/status/1197202729334128642
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJ1QvjgWkAIl4j9?format=jpg&name=small)
Also, I cannot spell Zelensky.
wait, is this real? i mean, it's gotta be 'shopped... but it's on GettyImages, so it must be real? or nah?
gawd i can't wait for this presidency to be over.
The big takeaway headline for today from Fox News:
FOLLOW LIVE: Sondland says Hunter Biden's board role clearly looks like 'conflict of interest'
Someone has to put this to music: "You can't have a quid pro quo, unless the Ukrainians know..."you ask and the internet delivers
the odds on this one must have been off the charts...but the word is...Lev Parnas is going to spill the beans on Devin
as he said...Fraud Guaranteed or my name ain't Lev Parnas
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKBj-ruX0AAex4r?format=jpg&name=medium)
Whatever
I like AOC more than Bernie or Warren
Interesting to contemplate whether she would have made a better candidate
1. Little comparative baggage
2. Knows how to communicate in a modern way
3. Young
4. Minority
I think democrats lose next year and she runs on 2024
isn't a little ironic (in the allanis way) that Trump is meeting with Lavrov as the articles of Impeachment are being read outNice...
isn't a little ironic (in the allanis way) that Trump is meeting with Lavrov as the articles of Impeachment are being read outNice...
Molly Jong-Fast @MollyJongFast
So Sergey Lavrov is just changing the batteries in all the bugs in the oval?
BREAKING NEWS: Jim Jordan is wearing a suit jacket on the House floorSo weird to see him out of his native garb of “shirtless in a sauna concealing multiple rapes”. Fuck that guy.
Here I thought Les had the hot wife....totally shallow of me...but I want to know more about Svetlana Parnas
page 42 of the 2012 catalog.
? My wife wants what you're smoking!Give me your fridge overflow and we can talk
The odds of him having a third term are better than the odds of him being impeached
so I'm not sure I'm behind the "delay the delivery of impeachment articles to the Senate" tactic
it is by no way going to make Mitch do something different
Am pretty sure Senate Republicans will never subpoena him so it’s a moot pointExactly.
trust me I'm aware of that....hope is eternal!Am pretty sure Senate Republicans will never subpoena him so it’s a moot pointExactly.
please update me if I am wrong (which I'm sure you'll do) ....the House never actually Subpoenaed Bolton
FTFYplease update me if I am wrong (which I'm sure you'll do) ....the House never actually Subpoenaed Bolton
correct.dems subpoenaed his deputy and he went to court to fight it (or, more generously, asked the courts to decide on congress vs. white house). bolton indicated that he would do the same, dems decided they didn't have time for protracted court battles, so they didn't bother trying to compel bolton.
We get what our electoral college decided for us. And they decided to give us a demagogue. SMDH.he'll be back for season 3 of Stranger Things
We get what our electoral college decided for us. And they decided to give us a demagogue. SMDH.he'll be back for season 3 of Stranger Things
I think you missed the joke...but there is always Goop to wait forWe get what our electoral college decided for us. And they decided to give us a demagogue. SMDH.he'll be back for season 3 of Stranger Things
welp time to cancel my Netflix and borrow someone else's password for their account then
I think you missed the joke...but there is always Goop to wait forWe get what our electoral college decided for us. And they decided to give us a demagogue. SMDH.he'll be back for season 3 of Stranger Things
welp time to cancel my Netflix and borrow someone else's password for their account then
I will say, Pelosi was given a hard time for delaying to deliver to the senate...with Bolton's statement I think we are waay more likely to now see Collins, Romney, Gardner and Murkowski say "I think we should hear Bolton speak before rushing to judgement"trust me I'm aware of that....hope is eternal!Am pretty sure Senate Republicans will never subpoena him so it’s a moot pointExactly.
Am pretty sure Senate Republicans will never subpoena him so it’s a moot pointwelp, just in case, trump as a plan for this
ok people...this is on the books
Senate impeachment trial to start next Tuesday
this could be interestingyowza...listened to this via audio only and it's insane
Lev Parnas sitting down with @maddow for an exclusive interview, airing tonight at 9pm on @MSNBC
While I believe much of what he said, the real problem with a guy like Lev Parnas is that he is going to be very, very easy to discredit. They probably won't even have to make shit up.100% agree...all the arguments we had to smear rudy/trump (Kellyanne called his company Fraud inc....but I'm sure she knew the real name)
It’s unbelievable how much garbage concentrates around Trump...you would think his supporters would make the connectionI think the reason his supporters like Trump...is they don't have to think
Or maybe his supporters are also garbage
@RexHuppkePam bondi get's name to Trump's defense team
Fun Fact: If you say “I don’t know Lev Parnas” out loud, his lawyer will tweet out a photo of you posing with Parnas.
My father in law and partner are in total denial...as most democrats...that there will be a fair trial with witnesses and it will sway the American people
Geezus three years into Trump and people still thinking like it’s 2015
the best we can hope for is that (some) republicans will pay a price for this sham.
there base is lost and we shouldn't carethe best we can hope for is that (some) republicans will pay a price for this sham.
Like the Merrick Garland sham? They're playing by a different set of rules and their base does not care. They encourage it even.
the best we can hope for is that (some) republicans will pay a price for this sham.
Like the Merrick Garland sham? They're playing by a different set of rules and their base does not care. They encourage it even.
this 2 x 12 hour days is f'ed upupdate....
these are old people
Somewhere back in the archive of this board I told you why they shouldn't do it and how it had zero chance of success. You simply chose not to listen.Wait, are you under the impression one or more of us are Democratic Congressmen?
I stopped watching soap operas years ago.I guess the frustrating part for me
failing to vote to remove him means the President can basically do anythingThis does really scare me
So it’s a very steep price to pay on principle
How about Schiff though? Love him.
I can't believe he's playing with the future of our republic over making some money on a book deal
I this schiff is a great orator and can think on his feet
almost thinking he should have run in 2020
Frantic Hatch name changes today lolslo-news day
Frantic Hatch name changes today lolslo-news day
I never liked him...and after reading all the stuff that he'd already submitted the draft copy in Dec and I'm pretty sure Team Trump was reading it the whole time (notice trump bombed the general 4 days later)Frantic Hatch name changes today lolslo-news day
I do enjoy that it took him profiteering on his experience in this administration for you to change your screen name to Bolton is a Prick. He's always been like this....
... is as stupid as depending on felons voting to win elections(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia1.tenor.com%2Fimages%2Fecf0c690ead896ecec95afd7a055a247%2Ftenor.gif%3Fitemid%3D9216839&f=1&nofb=1)
^ whoa...that is just delusional, but if he got OJ and Epistien off...he's the man to sell the insanity
(Challenged's post not julians)
"I kept my underwear on during the massage. I don't like massages particularly."
Weird...I thought Epstein got him off
This is an insane take. It’s literally a half step away from “it’s in the public’s best interest that I order the military to arrest opponent politicians.”
This is an insane take. It’s literally a half step away from “it’s in the public’s best interest that I order the military to arrest opponent politicians.”
better yet: "Biden is an obstacle to my second term, and i believe that a second term is in the public interest, therefore by murdering biden i am serving the public interest." DONE.
he's already stated he believes he can shoot someone on 5th Ave... it's not like we haven't been warned.
Is this sham over yet?this question section is lunacy...doesn't do anything for either side
Is this sham over yet?this question section is lunacy...doesn't do anything for either side
Although those dersch comments should be every political campaign add for the next 8 months
Did you hear that Rand tried to us his question get JR to say the whistle blowers name...at least JR had some principle and it was rejected
If anyone died on this hill it’s the democrats right?you are not wrong
If anyone died on this hill it’s the democrats right?you are not wrong
I just would like to believe when the evidence comes out
But we ultimately already know almost the entire story...so does testimony under oath and on camera matter?
To a certain degree I hoped that the American voter would be angry that a well documented trail of corruption occurred and the President clearly obstructed any effort to investigate something (that he's clearly guilty of)
but I also know that the American public has the memory of a goldfish and this is too complex for them to understand
He will just read the Tweet "congress acquits Trump" and people will not dig deeper
The focus should be on the winable votes in the battle ground states...
I still think the house should continue to open cases and investigations and just keep putting it out in sunlight
This should not be about picking the Democrat candidate your views most align with but picking the Democrat candidate that can defeat Trump and save the Republic or what’s left of it.
Anything else is sheer idiocy at this point.
This should not be about picking the Democrat candidate your views most align with but picking the Democrat candidate that can defeat Trump and save the Republic or what’s left of it.
Anything else is sheer idiocy at this point.
And that person would be...
The white guy with the black guy name...I should know more about this guy
Sherrod Brown
discuss, and/or throw up.(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F6LA7mFTWr92LK%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1)
"Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office."
- Marco Rubio (https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/31/politics/marco-rubio-donald-trump-senate-impeachment-trial/index.html)
discuss, and/or throw up.
The U.S. Senate has voted to block any witness testimony or new documents in Trump's impeachment trial.
The final vote: 49 YEA - 51 NAY.
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"Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office."
- Marco Rubio (https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/31/politics/marco-rubio-donald-trump-senate-impeachment-trial/index.html)
discuss, and/or throw up.
I don't understand why there aren't tens of thousands storming the Capital over this.
2020 Presidential Election Odds TrackerSo is it like golf or bowling
Candidate Jan. 7 1/14 1/21 1/29 Feb. 4/Feb. 5
Donald Trump -115 -145 -140 -135 -140 / -150
2020 Presidential Election Odds TrackerSo is it like golf or bowling
Candidate Jan. 7 1/14 1/21 1/29 Feb. 4/Feb. 5
Donald Trump -115 -145 -140 -135 -140 / -150
is a high score good or bad
What do we think Sidehatch does all day now that the show is over?
should be impeached, arrested and hung for treason...live on FOX
so I'm getting a little impeachment-weary...I think the GOP was hoping for this
did you hear about the 'tapes' that came out today
Trump has claimed he doesn't know Parnas, but here he is having a lenghty and detailed conversation (you don't have those with people who come up for a photo op)
apparently giving him a direct order to "get rid of" a U.S. ambassador
In that he can't talk coherently?
^ doesn't that constitute an impeachable crime?
In that he can't talk coherently?
^ doesn't that constitute an impeachable crime?
White House sources are saying that Pence might skip town during his international trip to avoid presiding over congress confirming Biden as President.my understanding is he will peside, but is leaving town minutes after
I think even if he doesn't show, won't stop the process...more of a formality
word on the street is that we may be dusting off this thread
Word, from NYT and other sources: Trump has retired to Camp David. He will not return to the WH. He is als reportedly going to pardon himself and his kids (+ Kushner and a few others), resign, and fly to Mar a Lago afterwards.where are you seeing this?
I never reveal my source unless of course, I'm revealing my sourceWord, from NYT and other sources: Trump has retired to Camp David. He will not return to the WH. He is als reportedly going to pardon himself and his kids (+ Kushner and a few others), resign, and fly to Mar a Lago afterwards.where are you seeing this?
apparently, if you impeach BEFORE inauguration, you can have a senate trial AFTER inauguration.For what possible purpose? Sanction him to be unable to run again?
that and a public trial to prosecute him on crimes and soil his legacy for generationsapparently, if you impeach BEFORE inauguration, you can have a senate trial AFTER inauguration.For what possible purpose? Sanction him to be unable to run again?
What would impeaching him accomplish at this point, especially if it's after his term is over?
apparently, if you impeach BEFORE inauguration, you can have a senate trial AFTER inauguration.For what possible purpose? Sanction him to be unable to run again?
But you need two thirds of senate to remove or 16 Republicans
especially if they weren't up for re-election until 2024 or 2026.
and they don't have 2024 presidential aspirations.
But you need two thirds of senate to remove or 16 Republicans
aside: they would need to pick off 17 GOP senators. Dems have 50 but Kamila only gets to vote in the case of a 50-50 tie. as soon as the vote becomes 51-49 (without her vote), she has to sit on the sidelines. so 2/3 = 67, AKA 50 + 17.
Math, smath. Trump got 74.2 million votes and he rounds it to 75 million. Can't we round 66.666666666..... to 66?Funny every time I see someone post on Twitter that he got 75 mil...I'm like MAGA's suck at math as he only got 74.2
Can we go back to talking about my “how do we get Murkowski to list as an Independent and caucus with the Dems” thing?so this is trending
There could be some that could see this an opportunity to take the party back from Trump's influence and could see a non-Trump aligned candidate for President as being a strong position (not saying I agree with this, but it is a conceivable strategy).
But you need two thirds of senate to remove or 16 Republicans
aside: they would need to pick off 17 GOP senators. Dems have 50 but Kamila only gets to vote in the case of a 50-50 tie. as soon as the vote becomes 51-49 (without her vote), she has to sit on the sidelines. so 2/3 = 67, AKA 50 + 17.
some may indeed adopt this strategy, but that "some" doesn't include the likes of Cruz.
Would he get a presidential library?
one reason the impeachment might not happen: it would be a YUGE distraction just as Biden is kicking off his presidency. he's talked a lot about how much he & congress need to get done on day 1, but impeachment would suck all the air out of the room. it would delay the confirmation of Biden's cabinet picks, delaying every agency's work.
and predictably, trump supporters are going to cry foul at the speed of this impeachment. "it was rigged from the start, he never had a chance to defend himself!!!111".
The problem is...they don't have one
I thought Kinzinger was on the recordmy understanding is he called for the 25th to be invoked...not explicitly saying he was for impeachment
I still don't understand Smakies response
I thought Kinzinger was on the recordmy understanding is he called for the 25th to be invoked...not explicitly saying he was for impeachment
whatever, we don't need any GOP in the house...we need 17 senators!
I still don't understand Smakies response
McConnell is said to be pleased about impeachment...what ever that means
McConnell is said to be pleased about impeachment...what ever that means
Trumpism is here to stayhas always been my fear...he's a dick and we all know that, but the people who adore that kind of leader...
Alright, here we go. The vote begins.yeah my bad...this mornings vote I guess was to start talks
Alright, here we go. The vote begins.
almost 5% of the GOP house (10) voted to impeach...I'll take that as a minor win and sea changeAlright, here we go. The vote begins.
And done.
Well it’s official.The only popular vote he won twice
Whoever started this thread....Sweetcell. It’s right there on the forum listing.
yeah...I think I should get a little credit...what a screenname too!Whoever started this thread....Sweetcell. It’s right there on the forum listing.
I guess they warned us this would become a regular thing
Marjorie Taylor Greene says she will introduce impeachment articles against Biden
will this be like Obama care...every two weeks they will try to impeach biden?
Trumpism is here to stayhas always been my fear...he's a dick and we all know that, but the people who adore that kind of leader...
they are not going anywhere
I think it's going to be hard to take that mantle from him, but there is a whole bunch of crazy to come and try to out-trump-trump to get their vote...and that's scary
So a Tom C or Josh H could really be dangerousNeither of these folks possess any of the "charisma" or cult of personality required for this.
does that go under the Good News threadSo a Tom C or Josh H could really be dangerousNeither of these folks possess any of the "charisma" or cult of personality required for this.
Trump is a once in a lifetime pol(https://media.giphy.com/media/veqvcOqrQrp4s/giphy.gif)
Agree on most points and don’t get me wrong - I hate Graham. But he’s motivated to win back the house next year.
Ok but to put in perspective it’s not his parents or brothers..it’s a cousin’s family
Still whacked
I keep holding out hope that this fractures the GOP.
Unfortunately, there are 2/3rds of them who would be just fine if he was installed as dictator in chief
sadly their thirst for power seems stronger than a conventional democracy and they will go forward with the Qwazy Qaucus from here on out.
Ok but to put in perspective it’s not his parents or brothers..it’s a cousin’s family
Still whacked
Let's be clear...my hope is the GOP does fracture. They are winning elections by just a hair and if 5-10% of them are fed up and can't get on board with Qwazy Train, that is enough to have Dems win electionsI keep holding out hope that this fractures the GOP.
Unfortunately, there are 2/3rds of them who would be just fine if he was installed as dictator in chief
sadly their thirst for power seems stronger than a conventional democracy and they will go forward with the Qwazy Qaucus from here on out.
Wouldn't you prefer four more years of Biden (or someone you liked more) via installation if the alternative was a democratically-elected Ted Cruz?
That’s not what he is askingOf course, I would prefer 4 more years of Biden, but it's not just about the Executive...I'm thinking house and senate too
My feeling is the MAGA crew would be fine if Trump was anointed king via an uprising where all the Libtards were killed in a mass execution
They don't care for elections, Trump is looking out for all of us, so why would we even need to vote
reminder: there is no bottom.
DHS Whistleblower: Trump Team Wanted Us to Lie About Russia, the Border, and White Supremacy (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/brian-murphy-whistleblower-trump-border-russia-racism-1232427/)
you may now return to trying to forget trump ever happened.
Side note: my wife is also Lithuanian and Polish, though not Jewish.that she's knows of....lots of people hid their jewish heritage as to not get killed and then a generation later, no one told the grand kids
Side note: my wife is also Lithuanian and Polish, though not Jewish.that she's knows of....lots of people hid their jewish heritage as to not get killed and then a generation later, no one told the grand kids
she done a 29 and me yet?
Everyone knows those Zionist swine have 29 chromosomes.Side note: my wife is also Lithuanian and Polish, though not Jewish.that she's knows of....lots of people hid their jewish heritage as to not get killed and then a generation later, no one told the grand kids
she done a 29 and me yet?
Don't you mean 23 and me?
umm, I don't know if EVERYONE knows this...Everyone knows those Zionist swine have 29 chromosomes.Side note: my wife is also Lithuanian and Polish, though not Jewish.that she's knows of....lots of people hid their jewish heritage as to not get killed and then a generation later, no one told the grand kids
she done a 29 and me yet?
Don't you mean 23 and me?
"Mr. Trump’s handlers designated an unnamed White House official known as the 'Music Man' to play him his favorite show tunes, including 'Memory' from 'Cats,' to pull him from the brink of rage."
^yikes....will they be allowed to shoot Antifa on sight
in case anyone wanted an update on the state of the GOP:
US man charged with wife’s murder wins Republican town primary from jail (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/06/indiana-andrew-wilhoite-charged-murder-republican-primary)
Andrew Wilhoite, 40, of Lebanon, Indiana, accused of killing Nikki Wilhoite with flower pot and dumping her body in nearby creek
Is this the start of the Civil War?had some random High School acquaintance write "this is the start of a civil war" and I immediately unfriended him
Is this the start of the Civil War?had some random High School acquaintance write "this is the start of a civil war" and I immediately unfriended him
(https://i.ibb.co/Fx3fsR8/Screen-Shot-2022-08-08-at-11-25-40-PM.png) (https://twitter.com/Ben_Etcetera/status/1556808582951186433)I am crying and having to try to explain why I just laughed so loud after midnight…
am I weird if this is the favorite part of that story
*midterms are 91 days away. DOJ has a policy of not doing anything that could be seen as overtly political within 90 days of an election - hence today's timing ;D
I know this, uh, guy, who works at the National Archives, and uh...they don't have agents. They'd work with law enforcement agencies in support of recovering classified documents.,
/pedant
I know this, uh, guy, who works at the National Archives, and uh...they don't have agents. They'd work with law enforcement agencies in support of recovering classified documents.,
/pedant
your, uh, guy, is wrong. (https://www.archives.gov/oig/investigations.html)
I know this, uh, guy, who works at the National Archives, and uh...they don't have agents. They'd work with law enforcement agencies in support of recovering classified documents.,
/pedant
your, uh, guy, is wrong. (https://www.archives.gov/oig/investigations.html)
Well, true, every federal agency has an OIG office. But they're not special armed agents who go around executing FBI raids.
nice explainer thread
https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1556777965937037312?s=20&t=EAg79WDSJ7s3PvLYxHR-tA (https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1556777965937037312?s=20&t=EAg79WDSJ7s3PvLYxHR-tA)
as one would expect, Das Right is crying foul. they are claiming that the current DOJ has been fully politicized
Coming at him from multiple fronts….
Trump will be questioned under oath Wednesday in the New York attorney general’s long-running civil investigation into his dealings as a real estate mogul
https://twitter.com/mynbc15/status/1557745287283736577
(https://i.giphy.com/media/qlrBlSDevEdFeW5JwV/giphy.webp)https://twitter.com/mynbc15/status/1557745287283736577
well when he's caught, they'll crowdfund his bail and lawyers.. he go on faux news proudly proclaiming he's a patriot and will gladly do again... appear on stage with TFG and then start grifting at gun shows..
https://twitter.com/mynbc15/status/1557745287283736577
Garland's presser today:well...any post show banter, had a busy day at work
this is getting funny...now they don't want the public to see the warrant
man, just when you think there is a bottom, he hits a new low\
Trump RELEASED the warrant with the names of the FBI agents unredacted.
that is not what was going to be released by garland, those names should have been redacted
like a mobster, he names all these gov't officials who are just doing their job, then those individuals have to go in hiding because of death threats
it's insane, how can this be real
Source? Same person that said Anee Heche is dead?@DonLew87
Source? Same person that said Anee Heche is dead?@DonLew87
Trump apparently leaked the warrant to Breitbart. The DOJ had sought to redact or shield the names of agents involved. Trump took no caution. The Breitbart article has names of agents, which obviously puts a target on their back. Reprehensible. Trump needs to be stopped. Enough.
Mehdi Hasan@mehdirhasan
Hold on, Breitbart just put out the names of the FBI agents who did the search? Are you kidding me? And presumably Breitbart got leaked this search warrant from Trump, unredacted?
Wow good luck to those agents & their families. Sheesh the right don’t give a damn about ‘the blue’.
LOL: Faux Newz aired a photoshoped image of the federal judge who signed the warrant in jeffrey epstein's plane having his feet massage by that ghislaine woman (https://twitter.com/ananavarro/status/1558094707657510912). they gunno getz demselves SUED.oh come on...you don't think this is an appropriate apology (it's not)
I see your Brooks (and Friedman) and raise you a Mark Thiessen.
David Brooks = worst political pundit in the country. (*)
also just saw this too
Trump Org CFO Allen Weisselberg expected to plead GUILTY on Thursday and admit to 15 felonies. As part of the deal, he has reportedly agreed to testify against Donald Trump's companies.
Do you work for MSNBC?
If not, you should.
Do you work for MSNBC?
If not, you should.
Do you work for MSNBC?
If not, you should.
i aspire to the NY Times, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
that's how you know you are doing a good jobDo you work for MSNBC?
If not, you should.
i aspire to the NY Times, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
And have people on Twitter constantly complain about your reporting?
then there's the weird story of trump showing up at Dulles on a private plane, unannounced and unexpectedly. he was wearing golf clothes, including cleats (https://twitter.com/snide_sally/status/1569487756459671553), as if he rushed to the plane so quickly he didn't have time to even change. early speculation was that he had a medical emergency and was headed to walter reed. then today he's photographed at his Sterling golf course with McCarthy, Nunes, Eric, Hannity and a few other heavies - except they're all just standing around, not a golf club in sight, in the rain (https://twitter.com/KarenInSoFlo/status/1569388381402005508). avoiding eavesdroppers?
it's been a lot of twitter speculation, but there are a bunch of photos and videos of them on a golf course...without golf clubs
Is there any mainstream news confirmation that those other guys were actually there, or is that just Twitter speculation?
file under "grifters gonna grift": days before he got sued by Letitia James in NY, he created a new company in Delaware. on the day Trump was sued in NY, he registered the new company in NY as "Trump Organization II". James is seeking an injunction against the transfer of any assets from v1 to v2.
Trump Forms New Company, Drawing Scrutiny From N.Y. Attorney General (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/nyregion/trump-ny-lawsuit-james.html)
Jan 6 Committee (edit: Plans to) subpoena Donald Trump.
of course I had to get on a call and missed itJan 6 Committee (edit: Plans to) subpoena Donald Trump.
just issued a subpoena to trump!!! wow...
chance of trump actually testifying are pretty low.very low and if he does...will plead the 5th, so won't really do anything
What's the statute of limitations on Trump's crimes?you need to be more specific, there are many
man, this would be some must see TV if he doeschance of trump actually testifying are pretty low.very low and if he does...will plead the 5th, so won't really do anything
but donny is not good at keeping his mouth shut in front of the cameras...so could be interesting if he actually shows
very low and if he does...will plead the 5th, so won't really do anything
Trump wants to testify before the J6 committee — but only if they broadcast his testimony live: NYT
very low and if he does...will plead the 5th, so won't really do anything
for trump, personally, i would be humiliating to sit in front of a camera (AKA in front of the nation) and be forced to plead the fifth to basic questions such as "did you participate in the attempts to illegally overthrow the 2020 election?" or "did your actions violate the US constitution?". i seriously wonder if he would have the personal discipline to keep his mouth shut when most needed. would not want to be the lawyer sitting beside him whose job it is to tell him to shut up.Trump wants to testify before the J6 committee — but only if they broadcast his testimony live: NYT
i would absolutely take that deal if i was the J6.
Adam "special K" says that they may agree to his termsman, this would be some must see TV if he doeschance of trump actually testifying are pretty low.very low and if he does...will plead the 5th, so won't really do anything
but donny is not good at keeping his mouth shut in front of the cameras...so could be interesting if he actually shows
Trump wants to testify before the J6 committee — but only if they broadcast his testimony live: NYT
Except he might not trust himself not to have a Jack Nicholson “I ordered the code red” moment
He is doing it cause trump announced he is running for presidentyeah, but wouldn't the smarter move to done it prior to that
jez...little late now
So what's the over/under on a Walker win tomorrow?
So what's the over/under on a Walker win tomorrow?what I'm reading it's looking really good. Early turnout was very good
Uh oh…we are in troublewhy, because I said it was looking good?
So what's the over/under on a Walker win tomorrow?what I'm reading it's looking really good. Early turnout was very good
but we'll know tomorrow night (maybe)
So what's the over/under on a Walker win tomorrow?what I'm reading it's looking really good. Early turnout was very good
wait, i thought early turnout favored Warnock?
but we'll know tomorrow night (maybe)
if he's up by 3-4 points, they will call it.
probably not, election officials already put out the word that final results will take a few days - especially given how close it's expected to be.
guaranteed to make a ton of cash for literally nothingIs it? He and Melania have went down the NFT route before and it failed to garner a lot of interest.
Had no idea how that played out...but the real answer is hysterical...and sadguaranteed to make a ton of cash for literally nothingIs it? He and Melania have went down the NFT route before and it failed to garner a lot of interest.
guaranteed to make a ton of cash for literally nothingIs it? He and Melania have went down the NFT route before and it failed to garner a lot of interest.
the dixie-flag waving overweight mouth-breathers that make up the majority of his supporters - i.e. the people willing/stupid enough to buy these things - have no idea what an NFT is or why they would want one (as opposed to me, who knows what an NFT and still has no idea why anyone would want one).This is spot on.
he would have done better to release actual, physical trading cards.
the garbage pail kids ones are actually a 'buy' in the card trading worldguaranteed to make a ton of cash for literally nothingIs it? He and Melania have went down the NFT route before and it failed to garner a lot of interest.
it's called "know your customer", and in this case they clearly don't. the dixie-flag waving overweight mouth-breathers that make up the majority of his supporters - i.e. the people willing/stupid enough to buy these things - have no idea what an NFT is or why they would want one (as opposed to me, who knows what an NFT and still has no idea why anyone would want one).
he would have done better to release physical printed trading cards.
wow...hearing him pitch it like a 2AM commerical for used cars is just off the charts pathetic
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1603433487926706177 (https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1603433487926706177)
hmmm...not even owned by Trump?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkCXD8NXwAYpr1f?format=jpg&name=large)
So I'm curious where CIC Digital monies go?
file under "i suffered to find this out, so you don't have to" -SOLD OUT baby...
as teased for a while now, trump has just made a #MajorAnnouncement (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MajorAnnouncement&src=trend_click&vertical=trends).
holy fuck. DEFINITELY an impeachable offence.
SOLD OUT baby...
As a "sweepstakes," by law, they must allow you to sign up to have a chance to win these prizes without purchase.
SOLD OUT baby...
i... am soooo.... defeated.
THERE IS NO BOTTOM. i don't know why i haven't accepted that yet. my heads knows it, but my heart keeps on hoping that this country isn't that bad... and then... trump takes us lower. always lower.
So we got him now, right!?welp, not quite yet...but damn is it close
not Maples, an actress and singerdid she play the club on touring this album...how'd we all miss this!
NEW YORK — Donald Trump mistook his sexual assault accuser E. Jean Carroll for his ex-wife Marla Maples when shown a photograph from the 1990s in a deposition at Mar-a-Lago last year, potentially undermining one of the common defenses he has used to deny an attack.
Trump, who is being sued by Carroll, an author and advice columnist, for defamation and sexual assault stemming from the same alleged encounter, has repeatedly said Carroll is not his “type,” suggesting an assault could not have occurred because he would not have pursued her romantically.
“That’s Marla, yeah. That’s my wife,” Trump said under examination from Carroll’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan, in a new selection of excerpts from the deposition that was unsealed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Manhattan.
Trump’s blunder in a sworn deposition was quickly corrected by his attorney Alina Habba, who told him it was Carroll, not Maples, an actress and singer who was married to Trump from 1993 to 1999.
Congress did impeach him. Twice.
well, let's start by seeing the charges. cohen got 3 years for his involvement, so clearly there's a "there" there...
Ok 34 counts of business fraud? Seems like more than Stormyis hutch coming around?
Ok 34 counts of business fraud? Seems like more than Stormy
there is a theory out there that the DA might be going for more than just individual, unrelated crimes. instead, they might try making this a RICO (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act) case by arguing that the long list of (at times low-level) crimes are symptomatic of an inherently corrupt organization. should they go for this grand-slam, more crimes will be heaped on to the stormy thing.