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Title: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 27, 2020, 09:03:05 pm
Why Diet Coke May Be in Shorter Supply Due to Spread of Virus (https://www.nbcwashington.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/why-diet-coke-may-be-in-shorter-supply-due-to-spread-of-virus/2226250/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 27, 2020, 09:21:53 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/kx4hSnK/smallpox.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2020, 10:42:43 am
Mick Mulvaney at CPAC: Coronavirus is the Dem’s new favorite hoax. They want to bring down the President.
- Audience cheers

we are soo fucked...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on February 28, 2020, 10:45:35 am
 :-\
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on February 28, 2020, 11:19:54 am
Mick Mulvaney at CPAC: Coronavirus is the Dem’s new favorite hoax. They want to bring down the President.
- Audience cheers

we are soo fucked...

On a tangential note, my wife has had the misfortune of being in the same room as Mulvaney, and just last night noted that he looks like this person, who was someone my daughter encountered in a middle school history lesson yesterday. Seems like they could be related.

https://www.thoughtco.com/carrie-nation-biography-3530547

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2020, 11:45:09 am
love learning new history...she does look like mick :)

she sure had some hutzpah and I bet fun at parties

Carrie Nation took bricks with her to a saloon. With a group of women, she entered the saloon, and began to sing and pray. Then she took the bricks and smashed bottles, furniture and any pictures they deemed pornographic. This was repeated at other saloons. Her husband suggested that a hatchet would be more effective; she adopted that instead of bricks in her saloon-smashing, calling these smashings "hatchetations."

and my new nom de plume
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2020, 12:04:04 pm
Wow...do we have an economy going to the shitter thread

on 2/20/20...DJ closed 29,219
today...8 days later DJ has already gone below 25K a few times today!

(don't lecture me on the DJ...I know it's only 30 stocks)

Does anyone know how to track the Volfefe Index


I really think it would be great if someone handed this out at his rally tonight in SC
(https://images.axios.com/Om7Xi70QZG0PjKtUjQv_XyzCBak=/0x0:1920x1080/1920x1080/2020/02/06/1581033037278.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on February 28, 2020, 12:22:16 pm
If this pans out, it will not be good.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3052775/coronavirus-dog-hong-kong-covid-19-patient-tests
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 28, 2020, 01:39:53 pm
Does anyone know how to track the Volfefe Index
Only economic indicator you need to be concerned with is the covfefe index.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2020, 02:06:44 pm
Does anyone know how to track the Volfefe Index
Only economic indicator you need to be concerned with is the covfefe index.
Exactly, but I can only find articles about JPmorgan creating it in Sept
is it an insiders only index?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 28, 2020, 02:29:25 pm
is it an insiders only index?
If you have to ask, you're poor.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2020, 02:43:17 pm
is it an insiders only index?
If you have to ask, you're poor.
Can confirm
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2020, 02:45:48 pm
whoa...Trump was right to be against Chinise 5G

Dr. Pall has made perfectly clear, Wuhan City in China, where the outbreak started, was the initial site of the most intense rollout of 5G wireless technology on the planet.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 28, 2020, 03:22:42 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/ZMMy0WH/coronamemes.jpg) (https://twitter.com/EandTmagazine/status/1232337444902756353)

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/000/015/oreally.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on February 28, 2020, 04:22:47 pm
The market reaction:

https://money.cnn.com/data/fear-and-greed/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2020, 04:30:49 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/87784171_10157104698522215_4236445613517963264_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=_NyeeatGYcsAX9yJcoo&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=63f59908daf23b48c6f1acf6b9702325&oe=5EECD915)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on February 28, 2020, 04:49:35 pm
Shit just got real.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/entertainment/amazing-race-coronavirus/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2020, 05:10:25 pm
from ^ article...just incase Relaxer is still among the living....

The entertainment industry is starting to feel the effects of fears over coronavirus. Musical acts like Green Day and BTS have canceled tour stops.


(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89051231_10158101049718112_5308470227988643840_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=L_z7z3BnZagAX_xfC--&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=0e0ae5ba731559bc155b7df75d563020&oe=5EBBB51D)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on February 28, 2020, 06:41:04 pm
Mick Mulvaney at CPAC: Coronavirus is the Dem’s new favorite hoax. They want to bring down the President.
- Audience cheers

we are soo fucked...

art of the deal:

(https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/88210260_2899040836809333_49257871816261632_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_oc=AQm83sw3_HoikyCyytzgNX9bpfllET-k3q4PDARc4cNcNEKbwC39c0OncM4-ZSZ4klw&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-2.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=f672b13e8bc712400a44aa785b410d53&oe=5EEBF54B)

all 8 of the top 8; 9 of the top 10; 14 of the top 20.  this is all-time, since the dow jones has existed.  trump = 14, all other presidents = 6.  WINNING.
(backup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_daily_changes_in_the_Dow_Jones_Industrial_Average))
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on February 28, 2020, 07:13:32 pm
you have to look at it in terms of percentage loss not number of “points”

I dislike Trump but I don’t think it’s entirely fair to blame him for this..

It just shows how desperate democrats are...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on February 28, 2020, 07:57:04 pm
you have to look at it in terms of percentage loss not number of “points”

I dislike Trump but I don’t think it’s entirely fair to blame him for this..

It just shows how desperate democrats are...

This is why the Republicans will win.  How many times do you think Republicans made rational arguments like this to Trump after his tweets?   They don't.   

But by playing the same game Dems are described as "desperate" despite everything in that tweet being factually correct.

One party is playing chess while the other is playing checkers.  And only one party is winning.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on February 28, 2020, 08:29:51 pm
I need a translator


It’s factually correct but irrelevant


Stocks have had a huge run up...so they are shedding a bit...they may recover very quickly...few if any Americans may die

How will democrats look if that happens and they made a huge deal and said the end of the world is coming due to Trump’s incompetence dealing with the corona virus?

But your mileage may vary

My feeling is democrats will lose cause economy is humming along, a lot of Americans actually like Trump and democrats are in disarray

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 29, 2020, 05:57:33 pm
1st US coronavirus death in Washington State....be safe sweets (and the whole pacific NW)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on February 29, 2020, 06:22:55 pm
1st US coronavirus death in Washington State....be safe sweets (and the whole pacific NW)

President Trump described the patient as a “wonderful woman” and a “medically high-risk patient” in her late 50s, at the news conference. Jeffrey Duchin, chief health officer for Seattle and King County, later clarified that the patient was a man in his 50s with underlying conditions.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 29, 2020, 06:28:54 pm
1st US coronavirus death in Washington State....be safe sweets (and the whole pacific NW)

President Trump described the patient as a “wonderful woman” and a “medically high-risk patient” in her late 50s, at the news conference. Jeffrey Duchin, chief health officer for Seattle and King County, later clarified that the patient was a man in his 50s with underlying conditions.
So you’re saying it was definitely Sweetcell?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 29, 2020, 10:37:47 pm
A-
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 29, 2020, 11:44:26 pm
whoa...Trump was right to be against Chinise 5G

Dr. Pall has made perfectly clear, Wuhan City in China, where the outbreak started, was the initial site of the most intense rollout of 5G wireless technology on the planet.
the new conspiracy theories are getting interesting...and this person is running for congress
JoanneWrightForCongress@JWrightforCA34
The Corona virus was man-made.  Bill Gates is one of  the financiers of the Wujan lab where it was being developed.  I wouldn’t put it past them and by “them” I mean everyone from Adam Schiff to George Soros, Hillary Clinton and the Pope.  #DeepStateCabal #KAG2020 @CIA https://twitter.com/MissILmom/stat
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 02, 2020, 01:07:53 am
1st US coronavirus death in Washington State....be safe sweets (and the whole pacific NW)

President Trump described the patient as a “wonderful woman” and a “medically high-risk patient” in her late 50s, at the news conference. Jeffrey Duchin, chief health officer for Seattle and King County, later clarified that the patient was a man in his 50s with underlying conditions.
So you’re saying it was definitely Sweetcell?

 ;D
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 02, 2020, 01:59:41 am
I keep hearing that ween song in my head...


“Are we all going to die?”

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 02, 2020, 12:39:55 pm
Mike Pence and his coronavirus emergency team praying for a solution.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESDyWELWoAA3CiH?format=jpg&name=900x900)
they should have invited marianne williamson to help
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 02, 2020, 01:42:29 pm

Mike Pence and his coronavirus emergency team praying for a solution.(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESDyWELWoAA3CiH?format=jpg&name=900x900)
they should have invited marianne williamson to help

if you can pray away the gay, why not the coronavirus?  works for me!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 02, 2020, 10:54:46 pm
I think I'm going to start praying...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESJsLRmUcAA48wZ?format=jpg&name=900x900)
has built teams to solve problems his entire life
teams of lawyers

a press release to promote tweets that promote the how great the POTUS's actions
one would think that a press release would actually describe and detail actions, not suckups kissing his ass
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 03, 2020, 12:52:10 am
nice work there, gov. hogan.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2020, 08:44:57 am
https://twitter.com/into_the_brush/status/1234685467682979840?s=21
This thread is scary
this woman thinks she has the symptoms, lives in Seattle and Her job is physical therapy for the elderly
So being a responsible person she spent hours and hours Called hotlines hospitals urgent care’s primary care doctors to find out she can’t even get tested And pretty much no one knows even how to get tested!!!
I guess you should’ve just called pence first, via prayer hotline
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: K8teebug on March 03, 2020, 09:50:53 am
There aren't enough test kits in the US right now. Can't get respirators anywhere. Clorox, wipes, hand sanitizer, and soap now flying off the shelves.

Anyone read Station Eleven? It's starting to feel like that.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 03, 2020, 09:58:38 am
We only had two months to get ready!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hemisphire on March 03, 2020, 11:32:38 am
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-united-states-isnt-handling-the-coronavirus-any-better-than-china/2020/03/01/6807d360-5a7f-11ea-8efd-0f904bdd8057_story.html

Read the last letter, if you had any doubts it's already in this area.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 03, 2020, 11:55:58 am
https://twitter.com/into_the_brush/status/1234685467682979840?s=21
This thread is scary
this woman thinks she has the symptoms, lives in Seattle and Her job is physical therapy for the elderly
So being a responsible person she spent hours and hours Called hotlines hospitals urgent care’s primary care doctors to find out she can’t even get tested And pretty much no one knows even how to get tested!!!
I guess you should’ve just called pence first, via prayer hotline

Yeah, I saw this earlier today too. Between that and an episode of The Daily last week, I am ready to retreat to my doomsday cave. (basement, where the record collection resides)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: K8teebug on March 03, 2020, 12:40:08 pm
I work in Public Health/occupational safety. While it is interesting from a work standpoint, I really don't want to see the worst case scenarios being discussed.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 03, 2020, 01:52:41 pm
I work in Public Health/occupational safety. While it is interesting from a work standpoint, I really don't want to see the worst case scenarios being discussed.

What purpose does this post serve?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2020, 01:59:19 pm
I work in Public Health/occupational safety. While it is interesting from a work standpoint, I really don't want to see the worst case scenarios being discussed.

What purpose does this post serve?
she doesn't want to see it...but can't seem to look away
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 03, 2020, 06:50:23 pm
Since a lot of gatherings are gonna inevitably be cancelled, someone came up with this: 


 https://www.isitcanceledyet.com/    (https://www.isitcanceledyet.com/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 03, 2020, 07:05:09 pm
Since a lot of gatherings are gonna inevitably be cancelled, someone came up with this: 


 https://www.isitcanceledyet.com/    (https://www.isitcanceledyet.com/)

they need to change all the no's to "not yet".
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on March 03, 2020, 07:43:10 pm
Since a lot of gatherings are gonna inevitably be cancelled, someone came up with this: 


 https://www.isitcanceledyet.com/    (https://www.isitcanceledyet.com/)

Clever.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 03, 2020, 09:02:02 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/NVN829R/my-corona.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 04, 2020, 11:45:36 am
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/03/04/world/04virus-briefing-wuhan/merlin_169954422_55300178-480d-4f4a-b28d-c0cceb2fe975-threeByTwoMediumAt2X.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=1100)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 04, 2020, 12:30:23 pm
dude.  what's going on in that pic?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 04, 2020, 12:44:35 pm
dude.  what's going on in that pic?

Covid 19 Patients awaiting transfer from one hospital to another in Wuhan, China. Front page of NYT online.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 04, 2020, 02:42:54 pm
SXSW to go on, corona virus be damned.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 04, 2020, 04:17:48 pm
best thing i've read so far: https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/fbt49e/the_who_sent_25_international_experts_to_china/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/fbt49e/the_who_sent_25_international_experts_to_china/)


ADDENDUM: however, someone how knows way more about this stuff that i do pointed out: "The data in China should be taken with a grain of salt: Chinese men smoke more than Chinese women and Chinese populations smoke more than American populations. Smoking is a huge risk factor of respiratory viruses.And a huge caveat to those data and others is the underestimation of the incident rate, which epidemiologists and scientists are saying can be underestimated as much as 10 fold (so that 3% fatality rate becomes a 0.3%...much closer to flu).
Not to say that older people aren’t effected worse, but just to say those numbers are the MAX fatality rate based on potentially faulty data due to the inadequacy of testing/surveillance."
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 04, 2020, 04:21:26 pm
best thing i've read so far: https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/fbt49e/the_who_sent_25_international_experts_to_china/

THIS>>>>
China can now produce 1.6 million test kits for the novel coronavirus per week. The test delivers a result on the same day. Across the country, anyone who goes to the doctor with a fever is screened for the virus:
I keep hearing that we have like 1000 kits nation wide or something and it takes a few days to get the results?

why can't we just talk to china and say "um how are you making those and can we just buy that from you"
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 04, 2020, 04:28:35 pm
and when you don't have an answer...always good to blame Obama

Trump on coronavirus testing: "The Obama administration made a decision on testing that turned out to be very detrimental to what we're doing & we undid that decision a few days ago so that testing can take place in a much more accurate & rapid fashion"
!?!?!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 04, 2020, 05:02:08 pm
 Bond movie No Time to Die pushed back to November
 (https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2020/mar/04/james-bond-no-time-to-die-november?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_b-gdnnews&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 04, 2020, 10:15:25 pm
Say “COVID-19” like “Come on, Eileen” (https://twitter.com/whysharksmatter/status/1235323054986792963?s=21)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 04, 2020, 11:12:46 pm
Nooo... now that’s what I hear when I see it
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 04, 2020, 11:44:15 pm
Nooo... now that’s what I hear when I see it
If anything, this makes this near-pandemic seem so much more approachable.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 05, 2020, 08:18:17 am
Say “COVID-19” like “Come on, Eileen” (https://twitter.com/whysharksmatter/status/1235323054986792963?s=21)

Ha, came here to say this.
Also, Ted Leo, Dexys Midnight Runners St. Patrticks Day tribute thing is sunday 3/15 at City Winery.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on March 05, 2020, 03:09:55 pm
Nooo... now that’s what I hear when I see it
If anything, this makes this near-pandemic seem so much more approachable.

GAWDDAMMIT.  I give talks, updates and presentations on COVID-19 all day.  Now it will come out in song every time....
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 05, 2020, 03:20:28 pm
So our idiot in chief does a word salad of  misinformation on faux news and then right on queue blasts other news outlets for reporting on his word salad claiming fake news..

We are so screwed...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 05, 2020, 04:26:05 pm
Nooo... now that’s what I hear when I see it
If anything, this makes this near-pandemic seem so much more approachable.

GAWDDAMMIT.  I give talks, updates and presentations on COVID-19 all day.  Now it will come out in song every time....
TrY wOrKiNg In HeAlTh CaRe AdMiNiStRaTiOn
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 05, 2020, 05:11:59 pm
Nooo... now that’s what I hear when I see it
If anything, this makes this near-pandemic seem so much more approachable.

GAWDDAMMIT.  I give talks, updates and presentations on COVID-19 all day.  Now it will come out in song every time....

For extra effect, say “pandemic” like Van Halen in “Panama”.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on March 05, 2020, 07:45:10 pm
COVID-19
No we can't dance together
No we can't talk at all
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 05, 2020, 08:22:09 pm
Maryland confirms first cases of coronavirus


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/maryland-confirms-three-cases-of-coronavirus/2020/03/05/687def10-5f3d-11ea-b014-4fafa866bb81_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/maryland-confirms-three-cases-of-coronavirus/2020/03/05/687def10-5f3d-11ea-b014-4fafa866bb81_story.html)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 05, 2020, 08:28:31 pm
Just not a big fan of this virus

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 05, 2020, 09:50:42 pm
All in Montgomery County:

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1lPJqVDRWodxb?t=1s
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 05, 2020, 10:08:44 pm
Festivals are being cancelled!


The Miami techno one and Latin rock Vive Latino in Mexico


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 05, 2020, 10:31:59 pm
I dunno about youse guys, but I ain't gettin' the 'roni
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 05, 2020, 10:40:26 pm
I dunno about youse guys, but I ain't gettin' the 'roni
Rice a Roni? The San Francisco treat?

Shots fired, Vansmack.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 06, 2020, 09:37:11 am
Mayor of Copenhagen is encouraging venues with events of 1000 or more people to cancel them
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 06, 2020, 09:55:44 am
At what point do we shut shit down and everyone stays in their house for a few weeks until we get a grip on this thing? We all could use a vacation anyway.

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 06, 2020, 10:15:14 am
At what point do we shut shit down and everyone stays in their house for a few weeks until we get a grip on this thing? We all could use a vacation anyway.
If we all get moved to teleworking, just think of the ancillary cost of all the marriages strained by arguments over house cleaning protocols!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: K8teebug on March 06, 2020, 10:15:29 am
At what point do we shut shit down and everyone stays in their house for a few weeks until we get a grip on this thing? We all could use a vacation anyway.

Honestly, I wish that's what everyone would do.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 06, 2020, 10:32:00 am
At what point do we shut shit down and everyone stays in their house for a few weeks until we get a grip on this thing? We all could use a vacation anyway.
Can you imagine the impact on the economy?  Think of all the hourly workers who wouldn't get paychecks.  I don't think the $$ should be our only focus, but I think we need to focus on awareness, detection and help for those infected.  This is not ebola.  I think this is a serious thing and people (and hopefully our government) should take it seriously. But I think closing everything down for a few weeks would have massive unintended consequences
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 06, 2020, 10:35:30 am
They had one gathering attended by one carrier and are now closing five schools in Bucks County, PA!!

At this rate everything will be shutting down soon...

But don’t we need people to work at grocery stores, hospitals etc?

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 06, 2020, 10:36:58 am
Then there's this concession worker at a stadium who tested positive...SMH

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/06/us/seattle-xfl-coronavirus-trnd/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 06, 2020, 10:39:21 am
I mean, with minimal testing in the US, there is the potential that there are thousands, or tens of thousands of undetected carriers.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 06, 2020, 10:45:48 am
I do believe the access to testing that is easy and free is critical at this juncture
Then companies and orgs of all types making it easy for individuals to get tested sooner than later
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 06, 2020, 10:47:05 am
So we would test everybody every other day?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 06, 2020, 10:50:13 am
Then there's this concession worker at a stadium who tested positive...SMH

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/06/us/seattle-xfl-coronavirus-trnd/index.html
Dude, if COVID-19 is the thing that kills the XFL . . .
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: lily1 on March 06, 2020, 11:21:36 am
out of curiosity, has anyone's workplace instituted a travel ban and/or told all employees to work from home until further notice?

we've had 3 clients institute travel bans for their staff and vendors this week.

we are business as usual.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 06, 2020, 11:25:53 am
This came out from OPM on Tuesday (https://www.chcoc.gov/content/preliminary-guidance-agencies-during-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19), advising federal agencies to "begin to reduce non-essential travel as appropriate." But no specific ban as of yet.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 06, 2020, 01:45:39 pm
Then there's this concession worker at a stadium who tested positive...SMH

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/06/us/seattle-xfl-coronavirus-trnd/index.html
Dude, if COVID-19 is the thing that kills the XFL . . .

Better the XFL than the election...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: rich_WDC on March 06, 2020, 04:22:45 pm
out of curiosity, has anyone's workplace instituted a travel ban and/or told all employees to work from home until further notice?


Ha!  My CEO, whose desk is perhaps 30 feet from mine, just went to Seoul yesterday.     I certainly will not be sharing a toothbrush upon his return.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 06, 2020, 06:13:10 pm
.....and SXSW cancelled
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 06, 2020, 06:19:01 pm
out of curiosity, has anyone's workplace instituted a travel ban and/or told all employees to work from home until further notice?

We have a travel ban in place.  Meetings in the US and abroad have also been cancelled.

Sux about SXSW.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 06, 2020, 07:20:11 pm
.....and SXSW cancelled

That's been Thor Harris' running Twitter joke for a few years.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 06, 2020, 07:21:52 pm
.....and SXSW cancelled
Jacob Ward@byjacobward
Cancelling SXSW represents about $350M in lost revenue for the city of Austin. This is an enormous act of civic responsibility.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 06, 2020, 08:29:04 pm
Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 06, 2020, 09:17:18 pm
Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/)
Good info,
looks like it's going to thin the elderly and spare the youth
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2020, 02:59:00 pm
https://www.facebook.com/abdu.sharkawy/posts/2809958409125474 (https://www.facebook.com/abdu.sharkawy/posts/2809958409125474)

Abdu Sharkawy
March 5 at 6:45 PM ·
I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?

I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.

But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.

#washurhands #geturflushot #respect #patiencenotpanic
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 07, 2020, 03:06:06 pm
Everybody freak out
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2020, 03:25:59 pm
Everybody freak out

or, per my post on the previous page, don't.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 07, 2020, 03:40:19 pm
Everybody don’t freak out!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2020, 03:49:03 pm
progress!  enlightenment, here we come...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 07, 2020, 08:00:00 pm
Everybody freak out

Is that Chic or C&C Music Factory?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 07, 2020, 08:06:40 pm
It’s a mashup of “Everybody Dance” by CC and the Music Factory and “Le Freak” by Chic
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 07, 2020, 09:43:50 pm
COVID-19 c'est chic
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 07, 2020, 09:48:08 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/mCjh5Y8/covid930.jpg) (https://twitter.com/930Club/status/1236008157555683334)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 08, 2020, 12:18:22 am
(https://i.ibb.co/T0KsVzJ/20secsongs.jpg) (https://twitter.com/piesaac/status/1236481132847226881)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on March 08, 2020, 01:07:46 am
I dunno about youse guys, but I ain't gettin' the 'roni
Rice a Roni? The San Francisco treat?

Shots fired, Vansmack.

Okay.

I'm on the cusp of three weeks off, I mean telecommuting, so that just means more for me.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on March 08, 2020, 01:12:14 am
out of curiosity, has anyone's workplace instituted a travel ban and/or told all employees to work from home until further notice?

we've had 3 clients institute travel bans for their staff and vendors this week.

we are business as usual.

I'm in Northern CA, things are a little escalated here, but yes, neither The Brand nor I can travel.  Her tech employer has closed two buildings in Santa Clara County completely where 2 people have tested positive.

My place of work has not closed, but it's matter of when, not if.  Stanford cancelled all classes after a faculty member tested positive and we will do the same as soon as someone tests positive.  If I'm still in my office by Friday, I'll be shocked.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 08, 2020, 08:40:09 pm
Well, there's this:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/03/08/ted-cruz-in-self-quarantine-after-interacting-with-coronavirus-patient-at-cpac/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 08, 2020, 08:41:29 pm
Well, there's this:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/03/08/ted-cruz-in-self-quarantine-after-interacting-with-coronavirus-patient-at-cpac/
Maybe it will give him time to shave that dreadful beard.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 08, 2020, 11:04:05 pm
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89387377_10157068604448157_4939331343814230016_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_oc=AQmP-exhI_rM8KCoWLEfknkf5kUv0D6kjBPWUr333jlbBqpuzqolM9ICmCIaFPnLJas&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=6b5877a57cb5bd40ea8f175d00d11a97&oe=5E95F5C3)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 09, 2020, 08:37:55 am
Prediction on how much stock market drops?


This could be a sizable % drop
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on March 09, 2020, 10:36:00 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESj_3IQXgAA5Sm3?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 09, 2020, 10:41:40 am
In case you weren't sure
@washingtonpost
French officials: No, cocaine does not protect against coronavirus https://wapo.st/2TObI2B

Did they do some testing to confirm this?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 09, 2020, 10:53:24 am
Prediction on how much stock market drops?


This could be a sizable % drop
On Jan 20th 2017 the Dow flirted 20k
On Feb 2020 it flirted with 30k (quite a run)

this morning it's in the 24K range!
I think in the next few weeks we may be back to where we were on inauguration day

This may end up being worse than 2008!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 09, 2020, 12:09:49 pm
Doomsayer


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 09, 2020, 12:49:17 pm
Doomsayer
nope just a libtard who wants to destroy this country how ever I can
Muuuuuuhahahahaha
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 09, 2020, 01:59:18 pm
In March 2009 I can recall stock index being at about 6000!

That was a great time to buy
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 09, 2020, 02:22:53 pm
(https://washyourlyrics.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/2586207824052748288.png)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 09, 2020, 03:51:14 pm
Arlington County resident tests positive


I am going to die
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 09, 2020, 03:52:49 pm
12 Md residents on the latest cruise ship.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 09, 2020, 04:29:01 pm
(https://washyourlyrics.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/2586308721265082368.png)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 09, 2020, 04:43:58 pm
I am going to die

Got the news from my doctor this afternoon. I’m no more likely to get it than anyone else BUT I’m way more likely to die from it if I do.

Can’t wait to tell my wife!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 09, 2020, 06:53:03 pm
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 09, 2020, 08:50:12 pm
New WH Chief of Staff goes under self-quarrantine.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 09, 2020, 08:52:02 pm
Hopefully Trump is next

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 09, 2020, 08:58:49 pm
Hopefully Trump is next

He's golfing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/08/after-stopping-cdc-his-way-mar-a-lago-trump-heads-golf-course-two-days-row/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 09, 2020, 09:18:59 pm
Yeah but you would think he would have been around his Chief of Staff although I don’t know timeline
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 09, 2020, 10:41:17 pm
dude this timeline is getting fuking weird, what if everyone at CPAC comes down with corona virus...will be interesting to see if they all continue to fall in line as they get ill.

serves fucking asshole Florida man Gatez right, who was a total ass on the floor of the house with his gas mask on.
people are dying and he's making a fucking joke


I feel like an incredibly horrible person due to the amount of schadenfreude this gives me
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: K8teebug on March 10, 2020, 08:36:28 am
Fuck that guy. Plus, a gas mask gives you no protection against particulate...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 10, 2020, 09:10:51 am
Fuck that guy. Plus, a gas mask gives you no protection against particulate...

What guy?

A rather sobering interview:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/03/09/coronavirus-past-containment-but-usa-can-limit-epidemic-scott-gottlieb/5007417002/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 10, 2020, 09:46:16 am
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Ok I like this and hate that I keep checking it like delegate counts
you refresh the page and someone dies

although going to this page assuages that fear
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 10, 2020, 01:32:42 pm
VIA 930 Email

Dear Music Lover,

 

Simply put, our venues exist to enhance people’s enjoyment of life. So, it’s natural that the wellbeing of our staff, patrons, artists and the community are always at the forefront of our thinking. Like other organizations, we’re taking additional precautions, such as adding supplementary cleaning staff and providing hand sanitizer stations in addition to the ever-present soap in the restrooms.


By now, everyone knows to cover their mouth when they cough and sneeze, wash their hands with soap for 20 seconds, avoid touching their faces – but, as always, if anyone isn’t feeling well, the responsible thing to do is to stay home. This goes for everyone.


As of now, all shows are going on as planned and attendance has not been affected. Naturally, if a show is canceled, refunds will be provided. If someone is unable to attend a show for any reason, we provide a forum for patrons to buy and sell tickets at no additional charge through I.M.P. Ticket X-Change.


This is a changing scenario, so we are engaged with the city and we’re closely monitoring circumstances. If anything changes, we will let patrons and employees know. But in the meantime, please be safe, be smart, be conscientious, and know that we are here to provide the community with entertainment as we have for the last nearly 40 years.


Sincerely,
The I.M.P. Team
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 10, 2020, 01:37:30 pm
I saw this and the link goes to the forum.  Be nice to all new forum members!!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 10, 2020, 01:44:37 pm
I saw this and the link goes to the forum.  Be nice to all new forum members!!!!


Real time photo of Julian

(https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/amur-tiger-licking-his-lips-260nw-164990294.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 10, 2020, 02:59:20 pm
I saw this and the link goes to the forum.  Be nice to all new forum members!!!!


Real time photo of Julian

(https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/amur-tiger-licking-his-lips-260nw-164990294.jpg)
Can confirm.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 10, 2020, 03:06:04 pm
All University System of Maryland schools: College Park, UMBC, Towson, etc. preparing for online ed post spring break....


https://www.usmd.edu/newsroom/news/1996         (https://www.usmd.edu/newsroom/news/1996)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: K8teebug on March 10, 2020, 03:19:13 pm
All University System of Maryland schools: College Park, UMBC, Towson, etc. preparing for online ed post spring break....

Very much aware of that one...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 10, 2020, 03:21:02 pm
All University System of Maryland schools: College Park, UMBC, Towson, etc. preparing for online ed post spring break....

Still very much preparing for the possibility, and not a definite plan. Yet.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 10, 2020, 03:28:39 pm
Trump continues to minimize the threat and even deaths...really disgusting


Also Fox and Republicans calling it the “Chinese Coronavirus” is pretty low


New lows every day...every hour...it’s really unbelievable

I am very glad IMP sent that email
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 10, 2020, 04:06:18 pm
FFax county schools closing 3/16 to prepare for distance learning ...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 10, 2020, 04:07:16 pm
FFax county schools closing 3/16 to prepare for distance learning ...

Here we go...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 10, 2020, 04:58:03 pm
(https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/DD-COMP-CORONAVIRUS-GRAPH.jpg?w=620)


italy locked everyone down on 3/08... hope no one here has plans after 3/20.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 10, 2020, 06:13:50 pm
NEW: MGM Resorts will stop operating its buffet service at seven properties in Las Vegas amid coronavirus concerns. (https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1237501358212816898)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 10, 2020, 06:32:34 pm
NEW: MGM Resorts will stop operating its buffet service at seven properties in Las Vegas amid coronavirus concerns. (https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1237501358212816898)

there is a silver lining to this coronavirus thing after all!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 10, 2020, 06:39:50 pm
Geezus just got out of wholesale club...it’s rough in there

Major run on tp and tissues

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on March 10, 2020, 07:12:22 pm
italy locked everyone down on 3/08... hope no one here has plans after 3/20.

Population of Italy:  60.5m
Population of the UK: 66.4m
Population of the USA: 327.2m
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 10, 2020, 07:20:55 pm
Brilliant stuff...we had no idea
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 10, 2020, 07:34:37 pm
italy locked everyone down on 3/08... hope no one here has plans after 3/20.

Population of Italy:  60.5m
Population of the UK: 66.4m
Population of the USA: 327.2m

(https://i.insider.com/5e66b72584159f21ad7f0617?width=500&format=jpeg&auto=webp) 
 
you were saying?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on March 10, 2020, 07:45:14 pm
you were saying?

Now we're getting somewhere.

Land Mass:

UK: 93,628 mi²
Italy: 116,347 mi²
US: 3.797 million mi²
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 10, 2020, 08:01:29 pm
you were saying?

Now we're getting somewhere.

Land Mass:

UK: 93,628 mi²
Italy: 116,347 mi²
US: 3.797 million mi²

With Americans more spread out, they're less likely to get it? I knew there was a reason i bought a SFH.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 10, 2020, 08:17:50 pm
You’re full of shit
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 10, 2020, 08:22:27 pm
You’re full of shit

I don't understand the point Vansmack was trying to make.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 10, 2020, 08:25:58 pm
you were saying?

Now we're getting somewhere.

Land Mass:

UK: 93,628 mi²
Italy: 116,347 mi²
US: 3.797 million mi²


Yes, but do you have data on per capita pasta consumption?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 10, 2020, 08:34:58 pm
You’re full of shit

I don't understand the point Vansmack was trying to make.

I think he was trying to make his usual point: I am smarter than you

Also potentially setting up his other standby: I told you so

:)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 10, 2020, 08:38:29 pm
You’re full of shit

I don't understand the point Vansmack was trying to make.

I think he was trying to make his usual point: I am smarter than you

Also potentially setting up his other standby: I told you so

:)

Ha! Thanks for my second laugh of the day. Could use a few more.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 10, 2020, 09:41:33 pm
You’re full of shit

I don't understand the point Vansmack was trying to make.

I think he was trying to make his usual point: I am smarter than you

Also potentially setting up his other standby: I told you so

:)

POTY

Sidepost, send me a PM if you need deets on what this means.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 10, 2020, 11:06:15 pm
You’re full of shit

I don't understand the point Vansmack was trying to make.

I think he was trying to make his usual point: I am smarter than you

Also potentially setting up his other standby: I told you so

:)

POTY

Sidepost, send me a PM if you need deets on what this means.
I'm getting ready to send you a BM via the mail
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 11, 2020, 10:19:21 am
Boris Johnson and Justin Trudeau added to the list of potential exposures.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Ardamus on March 11, 2020, 11:39:55 am
Interesting read on Vietnam combating the coronavirus.
https://chaohanoi.com/2020/03/04/why-vietnam-has-been-the-number-one-country-in-the-world-on-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR2BAx6QznPriAU0CstT0Y6VhhAEIsSpxE0rj_posXLxg-laBTtb8ujqSE4 (https://chaohanoi.com/2020/03/04/why-vietnam-has-been-the-number-one-country-in-the-world-on-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR2BAx6QznPriAU0CstT0Y6VhhAEIsSpxE0rj_posXLxg-laBTtb8ujqSE4)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 11, 2020, 01:39:16 pm
Big Ears festival cancelled (https://bigearsfestival.org/big-ears-festival-covid-19-cancellation/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 11, 2020, 01:46:45 pm
so i listened to this interview on joe rogan's show (save your rogan-bashing for another time), and it flipped the "this just became real for me" switch.  in case you doubt the guest's credentials: link 1 (http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/about-us/cidrap-staff/michael-t-osterholm-phd-mph), link 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Osterholm).

How Serious is the Coronavirus? Infectious Disease Expert Michael Osterholm Explains (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFhjMQrVts)

the doc states that coronavirus is so virulent, the air one exhales contains the virus when one is at their peak viral load - which is unfortunately before they show any symptoms).  so before you get a fever, you're a walking atomizer leaving a virus-cloud everywhere you go.  this is going to get worse before it gets better.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 11, 2020, 01:47:34 pm
Just attended a staff meeting where the range of emotion ran from one person who was visibly rolling his eyes, interrupting our supervisor by saying the word "YAWN" loudly, asking "how many people in the US have this like 16? and "this is going to tank our economy"  to....a Chinese-American who has been sounding the alarms in our office for many weeks who proclaimed that "Dr. ……. designed this to get rid of (Chinese) deplorables and now it's gotten out of hand."

Good lord, these people have PHD's.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 11, 2020, 01:50:26 pm
FWIW, my company just ate like $50k on cancelling an annual gala we throw for social workers out of concern over the need for social distancing.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 11, 2020, 01:50:53 pm
so i listened to this interview on joe rogan's show
Great. So, you've identified where you went wrong, now what do you do about it?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 11, 2020, 03:40:14 pm
Just attended a staff meeting where the range of emotion ran from one person who was visibly rolling his eyes, interrupting our supervisor by saying the word "YAWN" loudly, asking "how many people in the US have this like 16? and "this is going to tank our economy"  to....a Chinese-American who has been sounding the alarms in our office for many weeks who proclaimed that "Dr. ……. designed this to get rid of (Chinese) deplorables and now it's gotten out of hand."

Good lord, these people have PHD's.

the forum is anxioustly awaiting work from home sexcapade posts while your daughter does home schooling from the kitchen table.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 11, 2020, 04:23:02 pm
National Cathedral and hundreds of churches in Maryland, D.C., Virginia to close for two weeks (https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/03/11/episcopal-diocese-washington-closes-dozens-churches-including-national-cathedral-two-weeks/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 11, 2020, 04:32:31 pm
On the effects on the touring indie musicians:   https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/coronavirus-music-touring-cancellation-965380/   (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/coronavirus-music-touring-cancellation-965380/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Got Haggis? on March 11, 2020, 04:35:53 pm
yeah i get it that venues and musicians don't want to cancel stuff - but i thought it was pretty irresponsible for death fest to send out an update saying they were still on.  All large events need to be cancelled probably for at least the next 6 months.  it's really going to hurt artists and venues big time.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 11, 2020, 04:46:37 pm
If I don’t make it out of this know that I love you guys!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 11, 2020, 04:47:07 pm
March Madness attendance to be limited (https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/ncaa-president-mark-emmerts-statement-limiting-attendance-ncaa-events)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 11, 2020, 04:47:43 pm
local headline: Seattle Public Schools to close for at least two weeks in light of coronavirus concerns (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/education/seattle-public-schools-to-close-for-two-weeks-in-light-of-coronavirus-concerns/)

my kiddos are in a different school district, but it's coming to us eventually.  yeay.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 11, 2020, 04:57:10 pm
If I don’t make it out of this know that I love you guys!
Man, I don’t even know how to respond to this statement.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 11, 2020, 05:12:33 pm
yeah i get it that venues and musicians don't want to cancel stuff - but i thought it was pretty irresponsible for death fest to send out an update saying they were still on.  All large events need to be cancelled probably for at least the next 6 months.  it's really going to hurt artists and venues big time.
welp they are kinda living up to their name...death fest
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on March 11, 2020, 05:15:14 pm
I think this thread needs to be merged with the 'Just Cancelled' one
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 11, 2020, 05:30:26 pm
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/coronavirus-updates-live-u-s-cases-top-1-000-spread-n1155241/ncrd1155736#liveBlogHeader

Expecting 150 million people to get in the US?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 11, 2020, 06:22:42 pm
local headline: Seattle Public Schools to close for at least two weeks in light of coronavirus concerns (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/education/seattle-public-schools-to-close-for-two-weeks-in-light-of-coronavirus-concerns/)

my kiddos are in a different school district, but it's coming to us eventually.  yeay.

just got notification that my school district will be closing as well, per the instructions of the governor.  yeay indeed.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 11, 2020, 08:07:58 pm
november can't come soon enough:

Gov’t Told Seattle Lab To Stop Coronavirus Testing, Despite Finding New Cases (https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/gov-t-told-seattle-lab-to-stop-coronavirus-testing-despite-finding-new-cases-H2TmIcfUf0CM2vZOfqN5gw)


at what point does this willful neglect become impeachable? <hides>
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 11, 2020, 08:44:18 pm
Jared is "in total control," sources tells us.
phew, after he did such a great job creating middle east peace, I'm looking forward to his involvement here
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 11, 2020, 09:28:09 pm
Tom Hanks and his wife test positive
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 12, 2020, 01:01:09 am
Tom Hanks and his wife test positive

SHIT JUST GOT REAL
 
as if this wasn't feeling like a bad movie already...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2020, 08:37:19 am
Tom Hanks and his wife test positive

Tom Hanks had a cold, or so he thought. In the U.S., those symptoms may not be enough to get tested for the coronavirus. But in Australia, testing is free and widely available, thanks to early and coordinated planning for a pandemic. https://nyti.ms/2TX3Lsc


I've heard tons of accounts of people saying "I think I may have the virus" going to the doctor and unless they came from Italy or Wuhan...they were unable to get tested
that's a crisis, people are doing what they should and the govement is ill prepared to deal with what it knew about 7 weeks ago
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 12, 2020, 08:54:43 am
A white knight on my FB is all up in arms about the articles referring to "Tom Hanks and his wife" and not "Hollywood Power Couple Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson". I'm like, dude, if Rita Wilson walked into a bar, 95% of people would have no clue who she is. Do you say "artistic wunderkinds Meryl Streep and Don Gummer"?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 12, 2020, 09:03:37 am
https://twitter.com/PBalonaNJ/status/1236680463835676674?s=19
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 12, 2020, 09:07:38 am
https://twitter.com/PBalonaNJ/status/1236680463835676674?s=19

Why are we not extinct yet?

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 12, 2020, 09:58:43 am
Dow Jones at 21800



Wow
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2020, 10:21:49 am
yeah..don't check your 401k

(https://mw1.wsj.net/chart-cache/marketwatch/front-page/09f53e7351fc4a46b7c22f9d558edcc4_620x349.png)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 12, 2020, 10:38:43 am
yeah..don't check your 401k

(https://mw1.wsj.net/chart-cache/marketwatch/front-page/09f53e7351fc4a46b7c22f9d558edcc4_620x349.png)

My wife always laughs at me when I say I hope to retire someday.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 12, 2020, 10:44:12 am
yeah..don't check your 401k

(https://mw1.wsj.net/chart-cache/marketwatch/front-page/09f53e7351fc4a46b7c22f9d558edcc4_620x349.png)

My wife always laughs at me when I say I hope to retire someday.

I feel the need to punch the next person that tells me that this is a "buying opportunity."
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 12, 2020, 10:49:23 am
yeah..don't check your 401k

(https://mw1.wsj.net/chart-cache/marketwatch/front-page/09f53e7351fc4a46b7c22f9d558edcc4_620x349.png)

My wife always laughs at me when I say I hope to retire someday.

I feel the need to punch the next person that tells me that this is a "buying opportunity."
I mean, they’re not wrong.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2020, 10:53:32 am

I feel the need to punch the next person that tells me that this is a "buying opportunity."
I mean, they’re not wrong.
cage match between Jules and Challenged
although no touching allowed, bring your jousting lance



Personally...I'd wait for a few more weeks...if I had money to invest
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 12, 2020, 10:55:45 am
yeah..don't check your 401k

(https://mw1.wsj.net/chart-cache/marketwatch/front-page/09f53e7351fc4a46b7c22f9d558edcc4_620x349.png)

My wife always laughs at me when I say I hope to retire someday.

I feel the need to punch the next person that tells me that this is a "buying opportunity."
I mean, they’re not wrong.

I think that they are wrong if they are talking to me, personally. It's a buying opp for the 1% for sure. For me, not so much.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2020, 10:58:42 am
headlines keep getting better

Dow’s plunge into a bear market from a recent high is fastest since Great Depression
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 12, 2020, 11:08:43 am
This is the most progressive virus I've ever seen.  Rich people lose everything and poor got nothin' to lose!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2020, 11:10:49 am
This is the most progressive virus I've ever seen.  Rich people lose everything and poor got nothin' to lose!

I'd like to see the venn diagram of fox viewers and those vulnerable to the virus
might just be a circle
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 12, 2020, 11:40:04 am
Fabio

https://news.trust.org/item/20200312141651-bs9fo/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 12, 2020, 11:41:16 am
Fabio

https://news.trust.org/item/20200312141651-bs9fo/
Fake news. NOT the Fabio who once killed a bird with his face.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2020, 12:12:05 pm
welp...just got this from my boss
staff to remote work for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 12, 2020, 12:27:49 pm
Fabio

https://news.trust.org/item/20200312141651-bs9fo/
Fake news. NOT the Fabio who once killed a bird with his face.

i know.  my interest in this story peaked and then crashed just like the curve of infections over time without mitigation strategies...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2020, 02:07:04 pm
don't follow all the fake news
this guy has the cure
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1238110096334479364


MLS and NHL pausing games too
Live Nation is holding out
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 12, 2020, 02:09:52 pm
There is also a stunningly bad piece on a local news-radio website about how eating healthy foods can protect you against coronavirus.  I'm not even sure how these people are allowed to continue spreading harmful misinformation.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 12, 2020, 02:36:11 pm
200 people died in Italy from covid just yesterday


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2020, 02:41:32 pm
Rep Katie Porter Rocks
https://twitter.com/josh_nelson/status/1238155472491950081

just got CDC Director Redfield to commit to using his authority under existing law to make #Covid_19 testing FREE for every single American.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 12, 2020, 02:55:24 pm
Rep Katie Porter Rocks
https://twitter.com/josh_nelson/status/1238155472491950081

just got CDC Director Redfield to commit to using his authority under existing law to make #Covid_19 testing FREE for every single American.

uhh... how can you offer something you don't have?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 12, 2020, 02:56:13 pm
PANDUMIC: https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1237519854204342273
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 12, 2020, 03:00:55 pm
the doc states that coronavirus is so virulent, the air one exhales contains the virus when one is at their peak viral load - which is unfortunately before they show any symptoms).  so before you get a fever, you're a walking atomizer leaving a virus-cloud everywhere you go.  this is going to get worse before it gets better.

Coronavirus: many infections spread by people yet to show symptoms – scientists (https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/mar/12/coronavirus-most-infections-spread-by-people-yet-to-show-symptoms-scientists)
Findings mean that isolating people once they start to feel ill is less effective than hoped
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 12, 2020, 03:30:56 pm
Yes based on what is going on that has to be the case...I really think in the US we should shut it down for a month...self quarantine everyone almost immediately

Will the warming weather help?

Either way we need a massive quarantine


It is obvious it spreads really easily and is very deadly


We should be trying to get ahead of it...setting up automated food delivery systems, having the government pay for food, suspending stock markets and all flights etc

Note: just spitballing

And I just got back from hospital taking kid to therapy

All that sort of stuff should be canceled

I cancelled next three weeks
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 12, 2020, 03:31:50 pm
And in a recently published study, the virus sticks on surfaces longer than SARS:

Abstract

HCoV-19 (SARS-2) has caused >88,000 reported illnesses with a current case-fatality ratio of ~2%. Here, we investigate the stability of viable HCoV-19 on surfaces and in aerosols in comparison with SARS CoV-1. Overall, stability is very similar between HCoV-19 and SARS-CoV-1. We found that viable virus could be detected in aerosols up to 3 hours post aerosolization, up to 4 hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel. HCoV-19 and SARS-CoV-1 exhibited similar half-lives in aerosols, with median estimates around 2.7 hours. Both viruses show relatively long viability on stainless steel and polypropylene compared to copper or cardboard: the median half-life estimate for HCoV-19 is around 13 hours on steel and around 16 hours on polypropylene. Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of HCoV-19 is plausible, as the virus can remain viable in aerosols for multiple hours and on surfaces up to days.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 12, 2020, 03:35:18 pm
It is obvious it spreads really easily and is very deadly
I'm not sure "very deadly" is totally accurate.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 12, 2020, 03:38:23 pm
Welll didn’t 21 people or something die in one nursing home in Washington?

I know they were old but...


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 12, 2020, 03:42:31 pm
It is obvious it spreads really easily and is very deadly
I'm not sure "very deadly" is totally accurate.

"situationally, quite lethal."
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 12, 2020, 03:45:13 pm
I mean, if I'm just playing armchair epidemiologist, Ebola has a like 90% mortality rate. That is very deadly. SARS I think is at like 11%.

It is my understanding COVID-19 has a mortality rate of around 3% and a mortality rate of 0.7% outside of Wuhan (i.e. once it was identified and doctors had some idea what they were treating). This is not an instant death sentence. If 0.7% turns up to be an accurate number (and honestly, we really won't know until we are looking back on this thing with more data), that's a really awful flu on steroids. Even if the number gets as high as 2-3%, yes, this is a big time deal but I'm not sure "very deadly" in the context of other horrible viruses is accurate.

IDK
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 12, 2020, 03:50:06 pm
Ok I can agree with you..I stand corrected


Guess if it spreads so easily that in a sense “amplifies” the death impact

I still wonder about that nursing home...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 12, 2020, 03:54:25 pm
Guess if it spreads so easily that in a sense “amplifies” the death impact

I still wonder about that nursing home...
Yeah, obviously 1% of a huge population is more than 11% of a much smaller group. Not wanting to give the impression this is a non-event for sure.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Got Haggis? on March 12, 2020, 04:03:07 pm
the university i work for is going to telework starting this weekend.  while mandatory quarantine would be great, people won't follow it. In Iceland, they had something like 30 cases that came in from people returning from a trip in italy.  All of them were told to stay at home.  Several did not and now they are up to over 100 cases and have community spread.  Interestingly they found 3 travelers inbound from the USA to have brought it into iceland as well.  It is spreading way more than just the official count at this point.

anyway, from having lived in baltimore during the uprising, where we had a curfew - I can tell you....people will defy it all.  but a good piont is, even if some people defy it, the people staying at home should help lesson the burden at hospitals.   I have been reading that you should only go to a hospital if you have high fever that doesn't break and/or trouble breathing.  Otherwise, stay at home and don't interact with anyone for at least 14 days after being sick.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 12, 2020, 04:16:26 pm
I mean, if I'm just playing armchair epidemiologist, Ebola has a like 90% mortality rate. That is very deadly. SARS I think is at like 11%.

It is my understanding COVID-19 has a mortality rate of around 3% and a mortality rate of 0.7% outside of Wuhan (i.e. once it was identified and doctors had some idea what they were treating). This is not an instant death sentence. If 0.7% turns up to be an accurate number (and honestly, we really won't know until we are looking back on this thing with more data), that's a really awful flu on steroids. Even if the number gets as high as 2-3%, yes, this is a big time deal but I'm not sure "very deadly" in the context of other horrible viruses is accurate.

IDK

The seasonal flu has a mortality rate of 0.1%.  If (and when?) the number of people who contract the coronavirus matches the number who get the flu, and if the mortality rate stays the same, somewhere between 6 and 10 million people will die.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 12, 2020, 04:24:06 pm
1st case of community transmission in MD.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 12, 2020, 04:25:36 pm
All
Maryland
Public Schools
Closed
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2020, 04:28:30 pm
this seems like a good plan

President Trump will not be tested for the coronavirus after coming into contact with a Brazilian official who tested positive for the virus just days after a Mar-a-Lago visit, the White House said on Thursday
https://nyti.ms/3cSKy3t
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 12, 2020, 04:31:00 pm
March Madness attendance to be limited (https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/ncaa-president-mark-emmerts-statement-limiting-attendance-ncaa-events)

And now canceled.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 12, 2020, 04:54:10 pm
I bet he is tested daily and they tell us he is not...


Dow Jones lost 10% today

When Black Thursday comes
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 12, 2020, 05:10:13 pm
Not even sure this is worthy of the onion thread.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/11/814550474/missouri-sues-televangelist-jim-bakker-for-selling-fake-coronavirus-cure
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 12, 2020, 06:42:32 pm
local headline: Seattle Public Schools to close for at least two weeks in light of coronavirus concerns (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/education/seattle-public-schools-to-close-for-two-weeks-in-light-of-coronavirus-concerns/)

my kiddos are in a different school district, but it's coming to us eventually.  yeay.

just got notification that my school district will be closing as well, per the instructions of the governor.  yeay indeed.

"FROM: Snoqualmie Valley School District
TO: Daddy Sweetcell

Dear Snoqualmie Valley Families,
 
In light of recent information shared by our elected officials and public health agencies, we are informing all families that Snoqualmie Valley schools will be  closed starting tomorrow, Friday, March 13. At this time, the closure will extend through Friday, April 24.
 
(etc...)"

6 unplanned weeks of the kids at home, if not more, starting tomorrow.  yeay indeed.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 12, 2020, 07:45:37 pm
local headline: Seattle Public Schools to close for at least two weeks in light of coronavirus concerns (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/education/seattle-public-schools-to-close-for-two-weeks-in-light-of-coronavirus-concerns/)

my kiddos are in a different school district, but it's coming to us eventually.  yeay.

just got notification that my school district will be closing as well, per the instructions of the governor.  yeay indeed.

"FROM: Snoqualmie Valley School District
TO: Daddy Sweetcell

Dear Snoqualmie Valley Families,
 
In light of recent information shared by our elected officials and public health agencies, we are informing all families that Snoqualmie Valley schools will be  closed starting tomorrow, Friday, March 13. At this time, the closure will extend through Friday, April 24.
 
(etc...)"

6 unplanned weeks of the kids at home, if not more, starting tomorrow.  yeay indeed.

Are they going to do things online?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 12, 2020, 08:07:33 pm
"FROM: Snoqualmie Valley School District
TO: Daddy Sweetcell

Dear Snoqualmie Valley Families,
 
In light of recent information shared by our elected officials and public health agencies, we are informing all families that Snoqualmie Valley schools will be  closed starting tomorrow, Friday, March 13. At this time, the closure will extend through Friday, April 24.
 
(etc...)"

6 unplanned weeks of the kids at home, if not more, starting tomorrow.  yeay indeed.

Are they going to do things online?

nope, at least not yet.  nothing is currently set up and there are some access/equity issues - not every family has internet, computers, etc.  the school board & teachers are going to spend the next 6 weeks to create and implement an online learning program.  and the concern isn't this year, the main driver is fear that the virus will be back in the fall.  they're thinking long term: this year may end up being a write-off, but they want to be prepared for 2020-2021.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 12, 2020, 09:24:42 pm
Fairfax County parents seem to be unanimously livid that school is happening tomorrow.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 12, 2020, 10:50:46 pm
I am pissed off they have school in Arlington


I want to keep them home but their mother insists on sending them
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 07:36:11 am
Fairfax County parents seem to be unanimously livid that school is happening tomorrow.

They ended up cancelling. Monday, teachers are going to be trained for one day in distance learning. Who knows what happens after that. Nobody has said anything.

Hutch, you have my approval to keep the kids home today. Just don't send them to my house.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 08:09:15 am
It's 8am and I've been up working for an hour. She's been out of bed for less than five minutes and is already bitching about messes. This co-telework thing with no school is not going to go well. :(
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 13, 2020, 09:33:03 am
It's 8am and I've been up working for an hour. She's been out of bed for less than five minutes and is already bitching about messes. This co-telework thing with no school is not going to go well. :(

https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=25143.msg497907#msg497907
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 13, 2020, 09:33:39 am
Right on cue it’s  all Obama’s fault for the CDC response... here’s hoping Obama finally takes on this menace in the WH head on
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 09:43:16 am
It's 8am and I've been up working for an hour. She's been out of bed for less than five minutes and is already bitching about messes. This co-telework thing with no school is not going to go well. :(

https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=25143.msg497907#msg497907

Today is not the sexy day you thought it would be.

I did find a spot in the house where I won't be bothered. Woohoo.

As Howard Jones used to day, things can only get better...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 09:46:32 am
If most of us are going to get the virus, wouldn't it be better to get it earlier than later, especially if you only get it once?

I mean, the younger you are, the better. No better time than now.

And might as well get it now, before the hospitals are overrun.

I wish I was 25 not 52.

Do we  basically have to turn off our lives and live like hermits until a vaccine is developed and put into use?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 13, 2020, 09:53:19 am
But according to something I read the virus may mutate and come back stronger...this is apparently what happened in 1918 with influenza

The guy who ran Obamacare tweeted 1 million Americans will die...I could not believe it...not only the number but that he would tweet that out
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 13, 2020, 09:56:31 am
Roughly speaking, if 50% of Americans are infected (possible?) and the fatality rate is 1% (possible!), 1.6 million people will die.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 13, 2020, 09:58:55 am
I hear you but that’s insane

Do we really think half of Americans will get it?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 13, 2020, 09:59:58 am
I hear you but that’s insane

Do we really think half of Americans will get it?

Wouldn't be surprised... but I think also there's a big difference between "getting it" and getting sick... I think many people will get it and you won't know it or will have very minor symptoms.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 10:08:18 am
I hear you but that’s insane

Do we really think half of Americans will get it?

Angela Merkel said 70% of Germans will get it. She's probably no more of an infectious disease expert than I am but she probably has better firsthand  sources than I do.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 13, 2020, 10:09:46 am
A few factors to consider:

Community transmission is a big big deal.  The virus is in the wild, and you can get it without knowing how or where you got it from.  Hogan announced yesterday that this has already begun to happen in Maryland, and that is why schools are closed.

You are contagious before you feel sick. This means that testing is a trailing indicator of how many people you have already infected.  Testing doesn't help prevent the spread of the disease, and since we don't have a cure, it doesn't really inform treatment.

There is a good chance that the virus will wane over the summer, will mutate slightly and will come back like gangbusters next fall and winter.  The seasonal flu does this. The common cold does this. The Spanish flu (1918) did this, but the second wave was far more deadly than the first. They think that the people who got sick during the first wave of Spanish flu were conferred some immunity to the second wave.

80% of the infected will recover with minor to moderate symptoms.  20% will have major symptoms requiring medical intervention or hospitalization.  1% will die.  These numbers have been fairly consistent over time, and correcting for outliers.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 13, 2020, 10:12:02 am
So yeah, if only 20% get it and 1% die, then it's only 660K people.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 10:27:34 am
So yeah, if only 20% get it and 1% die, then it's only 660K people.

There are nearly 3 million deaths in the United States per year. I guess the question is what percent of that 660K or 1.5 million or whatever were people who were going to die anyway?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 13, 2020, 10:31:21 am
So yeah, if only 20% get it and 1% die, then it's only 660K people.
I don’t get out of bed for less than a million deaths.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 13, 2020, 10:32:43 am
Monkeyt gangs.
https://www.jpost.com/OMG/Coronavirus-sparks-monkey-gang-war-in-the-streets-of-Thailand-620737 (https://www.jpost.com/OMG/Coronavirus-sparks-monkey-gang-war-in-the-streets-of-Thailand-620737)


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 13, 2020, 10:33:55 am
So yeah, if only 20% get it and 1% die, then it's only 660K people.

There are nearly 3 million deaths in the United States per year. I guess the question is what percent of that 660K or 1.5 million or whatever were people who were going to die anyway?

This would be on top of the "background deaths" you cite.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 13, 2020, 11:13:01 am
Heilung I forget but you work in public health?

Good stuff..thanks
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 11:45:46 am
My Trump voting, Fox News watching in-laws claim they don't have the virus because they can still hold their breath and count to 10.

Isn't that really the only test you need?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 13, 2020, 11:52:33 am
Heilung I forget but you work in public health?

Good stuff..thanks

I dont. But I'm highly selective about where I get my info.  This is a great source. Sign up for their situation reports!

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/resources/COVID-19/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 12:11:55 pm
Heilung I forget but you work in public health?

Good stuff..thanks

I dont. But I'm highly selective about where I get my info.  This is a great source. Sign up for their situation reports!

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/resources/COVID-19/index.html

Does it mention the 10 second test?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 13, 2020, 12:17:00 pm
Heilung I forget but you work in public health?

Good stuff..thanks

I dont. But I'm highly selective about where I get my info.  This is a great source. Sign up for their situation reports!

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/resources/COVID-19/index.html

Well I sure appreciate it
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 13, 2020, 12:17:07 pm
Heilung I forget but you work in public health?

Good stuff..thanks

I dont. But I'm highly selective about where I get my info.  This is a great source. Sign up for their situation reports!

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/resources/COVID-19/index.html

Does it mention the 10 second test?
This is false. Our director of nursing (I'm in population health) specifically called this out in our board call today. Source: World Health Organization.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 12:19:59 pm
Monkeyt gangs.
https://www.jpost.com/OMG/Coronavirus-sparks-monkey-gang-war-in-the-streets-of-Thailand-620737 (https://www.jpost.com/OMG/Coronavirus-sparks-monkey-gang-war-in-the-streets-of-Thailand-620737)
must check out the video in the article
https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1238012197537755136

that's some scary shit
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 13, 2020, 12:20:32 pm
Brazil president who just shook Trump’s hand has it


Messi in quarantine


My guess is a lot of people have it but don’t know cause we are not important enough to get tested
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 13, 2020, 12:24:10 pm
Julian when are you submitting to your test?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 13, 2020, 12:26:33 pm
Now they are sayingBolsonaro is negative
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 13, 2020, 12:27:27 pm
Julian when are you submitting to your test?
Every employee had to fill out a questionnaire for submittal to DMAS. None of my answers triggered a test.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 13, 2020, 12:50:46 pm
If most of us are going to get the virus, wouldn't it be better to get it earlier than later, especially if you only get it once?

I mean, the younger you are, the better. No better time than now.

And might as well get it now, before the hospitals are overrun.

haven't you heard about "flattening the curve"?  the idea is that if everyone gets sick all at once, it'll overwhelm the healthcare system and healthcare workers will be forced to make who-will-live-and-who-will-die decisions, as is currently the case in italy.  the goal is to space (!) out the rate of infection, so the same total number of people pass through hospitals but not all at the same time.  rushing to the hospital is risky both for yourself and for society in general.

and being a month younger or a month older isn't going to affect your outcome.
 
if only to pander to Jules, here is a U of MI article about flattening the curve (https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/wellness-prevention/flattening-curve-for-covid-19-what-does-it-mean-and-how-can-you-help).

(https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/sites/consumer/files/2020-03/Coronavirus_flattening_curve_1.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 12:52:39 pm
Heilung I forget but you work in public health?

Good stuff..thanks

I dont. But I'm highly selective about where I get my info.  This is a great source. Sign up for their situation reports!

http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/resources/COVID-19/index.html

Does it mention the 10 second test?
This is false. Our director of nursing (I'm in population health) specifically called this out in our board call today. Source: World Health Organization.

Yes, I 100% know this. I'm just posting it to mock my in-laws. I'm one of those "lucky" people who gets a hall pass to hate on his in-laws because his wife hates her parents.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 12:54:46 pm
If most of us are going to get the virus, wouldn't it be better to get it earlier than later, especially if you only get it once?

I mean, the younger you are, the better. No better time than now.

And might as well get it now, before the hospitals are overrun.

haven't you heard about "flattening the curve"?  the idea is that if everyone gets sick all at once, it'll overwhelm the healthcare system and healthcare workers will be forced to make who-will-live-and-who-will-die decisions, as is currently the case in italy.  the goal is to space (!) out the rate of infection, so the same total number of people pass through hospitals but not all at the same time.  rushing to the hospital is risky both for yourself and for society in general.

and being a month younger or a month older isn't going to affect your outcome.
 
if only to pander to Jules, here is a U of MI article about flattening the curve (https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/wellness-prevention/flattening-curve-for-covid-19-what-does-it-mean-and-how-can-you-help).

(https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/sites/consumer/files/2020-03/Coronavirus_flattening_curve_1.jpg)

I was assuming the vaccination is 20 years in the making. Better to get it when I'm 52 instead of 65 or 70.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 13, 2020, 01:12:35 pm
I'm one of those "lucky" people who gets a hall pass to hate on his in-laws because his wife hates her parents.
Somehow I knew this. If someone said "hey, do you think Celeste hates her parents," I would instinctively go "yes, of course" without having the slightest bit of info about the parents.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 01:19:02 pm
I'm one of those "lucky" people who gets a hall pass to hate on his in-laws because his wife hates her parents.
Somehow I knew this. If someone said "hey, do you think Celeste hates her parents," I would instinctively go "yes, of course" without having the slightest bit of info about the parents.

To be fair to my wife, her parents *were* piss-poor parents. You would hate them too if they were your parents.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 01:19:57 pm
LOUISIANA has postponed the presidential primary due to the Coronavirus.
I think the whole tues day should be internet/mail in or postponed
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 13, 2020, 01:21:49 pm
I'm one of those "lucky" people who gets a hall pass to hate on his in-laws because his wife hates her parents.
Somehow I knew this. If someone said "hey, do you think Celeste hates her parents," I would instinctively go "yes, of course" without having the slightest bit of info about the parents.

To be fair to my wife, her parents *were* piss-poor parents. You would hate them too if they were your parents.
Fair enough.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 13, 2020, 01:22:18 pm
LOUISIANA has postponed the presidential primary due to the Coronavirus.
I think the whole tues day should be internet/mail in or postponed
Just another trick by the DNC to screw over Bernie.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 01:29:44 pm
LOUISIANA has postponed the presidential primary due to the Coronavirus.
I think the whole tues day should be internet/mail in or postponed
Just another trick by the DNC to screw over Bernie.

How long before Trump starts making "jokes" about needing to suspend/cancel the election?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 13, 2020, 01:33:56 pm
Stealing this from Twitter....

buy gift certificates to restaurants. If you can't visit any in person now, it will help them stay in business.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 01:35:49 pm
LOUISIANA has postponed the presidential primary due to the Coronavirus.
I think the whole tues day should be internet/mail in or postponed
Just another trick by the DNC to screw over Bernie.

How long before Trump starts making "jokes" about needing to suspend/cancel the election?

I'm expecting it, do we think the GOP will back that plan....of course they will
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 01:38:01 pm
@SpiroAgnewGhost
Trump will most likely declare a national emergency in an hour. How do his brainwashed supporters accept this from a pathological lying conman who said it was “contained”,  people saying to be cautious was “Fake News” and a “hoax”, & 2 weeks ago said “15 cases will be zero soon.”



in other news
Los Angeles county in California announces the closure of all schools; this is the the 2nd largest school district in the U.S. after NYC
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 13, 2020, 01:51:53 pm
I was assuming the vaccination is 20 years in the making. Better to get it when I'm 52 instead of 65 or 70.

vaccine in 1 to 2 years.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 13, 2020, 01:53:10 pm
in response to the euro-travel ban, someone quipped:

if the only solution you have is a wall, everything looks like an invasion.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 13, 2020, 02:24:42 pm
Chinese medical workers who have been fighting the #coronavirus day and night in Wuhan celebrated the closing of the last temporary hospital in Wuhan. (https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1238457755415064576?s=20)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 02:40:27 pm
Chinese medical workers who have been fighting the #coronavirus day and night in Wuhan celebrated the closing of the last temporary hospital in Wuhan. (https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1238457755415064576?s=20)

That tweet says only 15 new cases in china in the last week. I'm not sure where they are getting their info. I've been obsessively watching this site: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries, and though China's numbers have decreased, no way it's 15 in a week. It's 22 so far today.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 13, 2020, 03:03:41 pm
Livestream Trump news conference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feycmqjsLNw
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 03:27:09 pm
Livestream Trump news conference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feycmqjsLNw
is this working for you...keeps saying starting soon
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 13, 2020, 03:28:14 pm
the anticipation is palpable
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 03:29:18 pm
AMC Theatres announced on Friday that they are proactively reducing the maximum capacity of each of its theaters by at least 50%, according to a press release.

Beginning Saturday through April 30, the movie theater chain will cap ticket sales for each of its theatre’s auditoriums to an amount equal to 50% of the normal seating capacity.

Adam Aron, CEO and President of AMC Theatres, said “with this action, we are facilitating the ‘social distance’ between guests who still want to see movies on a big screen.”

The company is also enhancing its cleaning protocols by cleaning “hightouch” point areas at least once per hour, the company said.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 03:30:18 pm
The Dow closes at 4. He's probably waiting for it to close up so it looks like something positive and helps Republican short-sellers.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 03:30:35 pm
the anticipation is palpable

2 minute warning for POTUS @AP
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 13, 2020, 03:30:47 pm
Livestream Trump news conference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feycmqjsLNw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feycmqjsLNw)
is this working for you...keeps saying starting soon

here we go
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 03:33:48 pm
national emergency now
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 13, 2020, 03:47:54 pm
Trump is shaking all the hands
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 03:48:01 pm
lot of handshaking with a possible corona virus individual
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 13, 2020, 03:51:08 pm
Isn't Trump late for a golf game? So repugnant.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 13, 2020, 03:52:35 pm
That's alot of old while men.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 04:05:50 pm
 Dow gaining 9.3%
went straigh up when he started talking
still down quite a bit
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 04:08:53 pm
Reporter to Trump: are you concerned that you have been in contact with known carriers
Trump: we are not showing symptoms and not worried


this was gem: 'I don't take responsibly at all'
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 04:31:03 pm
southpaw @nycsouthpaw
Trump, on firing the whole NSC pandemic team: “When you say ‘me,’ I didn’t do it.”

George Conway@gtconway3d
the buck stops wherever convenient
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on March 13, 2020, 04:32:34 pm
(https://scontent.fewr1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/89359533_10158535621126800_5182461277707960320_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=hiGk9wcKoYYAX9iH6rM&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-3.fna&_nc_tp=7&oh=ba4023e5d2cc22bd9f63512c4a5813c9&oe=5E923FD9)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 13, 2020, 06:52:46 pm
calling all geeks with some spare cycles:

Folding@home (@foldingathome)
Do you want to help us fight #COVIDー19 ? Download our client from https://foldingathome.org (https://foldingathome.org)  -> Install -> Set category to "ANY" #COVID19 is prioritized. GPU and CPU projects are up.
https://twitter.com/foldingathome/status/1238568504200253442 (https://twitter.com/foldingathome/status/1238568504200253442)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on March 13, 2020, 07:38:06 pm
Japanese Porn Company Makes 200 Movies Available For Free Due To Coronavirus Covid-19 (https://kotaku.com/japanese-porn-company-makes-200-movies-available-for-fr-1842309591)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2020, 08:00:21 pm
some covid humor
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/83973803_10158140937509743_4836422265249726464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=nAmfBPZ6wscAX_cJZ0j&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=20f7a487ebdb916a7dd30fa8a3b92449&oe=5E9001BD)
my money's on montana
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 14, 2020, 10:06:31 am
So much for Montana and three of the others.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: K8teebug on March 14, 2020, 10:46:51 am
I just got off the phone with my 74 year old dad who is going to a party today and who said this is all Obama's fault. At least my Mom doesn't watch Fox News.

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 14, 2020, 11:10:57 am
So much for Montana and three of the others.
looks like West Virgina takes it...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 14, 2020, 02:35:01 pm
Check out my blog for updates

https://www.fredhutch.org/en/news/center-news/2020/03/covid19---social-distancing--in-seattle-and-beyond.html?utm_campaign=hutchnews&utm_content=1584046688&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 14, 2020, 07:13:08 pm
Anti-inflammatories may aggravate Covid-19, France advises (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/14/anti-inflammatory-drugs-may-aggravate-coronavirus-infection)

For fever, take acetaminophen (aka paracetamol and Tylenol) instead of ibuprofen (Advil).
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 15, 2020, 12:37:42 pm
José Andrés @chefjoseandres
People of America...Important News: All my restaurants in DC area are closed until further notice. Here at @ThinkFoodGroup safety of employees & guests is too priority. Some restaurants will transform into Community Kitchens to offer to-go lunches for those who need a meal. These Community Kitchens will be part of @WCKitchen  efforts across the country in the coming days & weeks. Not for enjoyment....but a service for people in need of a plate of food during this emergency. We are in an unprecedented emergency...and as painful as it is, ALL restaurants, bars, etc. must be closed across America if we are to avoid what’s happening in other countries. This is the only way. In this moment, loving each other means staying away from each other. This is about We The People. Each of us has a responsibility to act for others, not just ourselves. We are all together in this fight...and we will win.


and in case you were feeling good...here is some fucked up news from Team Trump

Brian Klaas@brianklaas
This is depraved. The German government confirms that Trump apparently tried to bribe German scientists into giving him exclusive rights to the Covid-19 vaccine they were working on developing. He wanted it “for the US only.” How many new lows will he set for the United States?

Quote Tweet Aman Batheja @amanbatheja
Germany's health ministry is confirming this bombshell story from German media outlet @welt
https://reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-usa/germany-tries-to-stop-us-from-luring-away-firm-seeking-coronavirus-vaccine-idUSKBN2120IV

It’s unclear what exactly the intent was here: getting the rights to make money off selling it to other countries? Something else? This is a story that needs a lot more reporting clearly, but just when you thought you had lost your ability to be shocked by him, Trump manages.
One key point from @marceldirsus
: this is a huge news story in Germany. We need allies now more than ever to tackle a global pandemic. And instead, this is a public opinion disaster for US/German relations yet again due to Trump.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 15, 2020, 02:06:58 pm
@fritzhahn 1:53 PM · Mar 15,
New rules just down from D.C. gov:

* All nightclubs closed
* Suspending all bar seating
* Suspending service to standing patrons
* Tables and booths must be 6 feet apart and occupied by 6 people or fewer
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 15, 2020, 02:27:28 pm
Maryland casinos and race tracks to close (https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2020/03/baltimore-confirms-first-coronavirus-patient-as-dc-region-nears-100-total-cases/)

You've got until midnight tonight to get yr luck on.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 15, 2020, 02:32:54 pm
Coronavirus-Impacted Libraries Get Unlimited Access to Ebook Central Holdings  (https://www.proquest.com/blog/pqblog/2020/Coronavirus-Impacted-Libraries-Get-Unlimited-Access-to-Ebook-Central.html?fbclid=IwAR1om-9j3H_D4Ywo5F84O9udiuVjoqb5R309w-r6Fzsidh-rvX83bqjvJvA)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 15, 2020, 02:53:07 pm
happy ST(ay) Patrick's Day
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 15, 2020, 03:54:38 pm
@fritzhahn 1:53 PM · Mar 15,
New rules just down from D.C. gov:

* All nightclubs closed
* Suspending all bar seating
* Suspending service to standing patrons
* Tables and booths must be 6 feet apart and occupied by 6 people or fewer


Geezus they might as well just close..are the drunk patrons going to figure this shit out?


Yesterday I heard of a company letting someone go....
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 15, 2020, 09:13:35 pm
Columbia Mall to close (https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/bs-md-ob-coronavirus-cases-20200315-hz7ye3ah7jejhmhekt2nmgrjpu-story.html)

(fair warning: The Baltimore Sun website has a shit ton of pop-ups)

At the news conference announcing the woman’s illness, County Executive Calvin Ball also said he has declared a state of emergency and that The Mall in Columbia and other commercial gathering places will be closed for at least a week.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 15, 2020, 09:52:14 pm
CDC recommending no gatherings of more than 50 people for 8 weeks


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 16, 2020, 10:21:55 am
Is there anybody left out there?


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 16, 2020, 10:23:56 am
We're all in line to get tested. Where are you?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 16, 2020, 10:35:37 am
At home trying to get my kids to do some schoolwork


The oldest wants to film a sketch comedy called The Big Virus Theory loosely based around his home schoolwork





Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 16, 2020, 11:20:40 am
All Maryland bars, restaurants, theaters and gyms shut down. Carryout and delivery still available.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Vas Deferens on March 16, 2020, 11:27:21 am
at 5 PM

All Maryland bars, restaurants, theaters and gyms shut down. Carryout and delivery still available.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 16, 2020, 11:27:52 am
at 5 PM

All Maryland bars, restaurants, theaters and gyms shut down. Carryout and delivery still available.

Carryout and delivery still allowed.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 16, 2020, 02:21:05 pm
Canada closes border (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/16/coronavirus-latest-news/#link-34EWOW326BFPZP466STAL4SSJA)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 16, 2020, 02:24:10 pm
Idris Elba tests positive (https://twitter.com/idriselba/status/1239617034901524481)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 16, 2020, 02:39:26 pm
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89963884_10222587601378215_7297212108066783232_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_oc=AQki5wkJoTdxNNTOmBynah14puac90Wgj7DpSTIYZXktf4G6cb30807YsfVL8ANQp84&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=acc8ebe7fb303ca1b1c2284527c8ce7d&oe=5E95E8FD)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 16, 2020, 02:41:39 pm
Idris Elba tests positive (https://twitter.com/idriselba/status/1239617034901524481)

Not the future James Bond!!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 16, 2020, 03:01:04 pm
"Iran reported its biggest one day jump in coronavirus infections on Monday as another senior figure in the country’s clerical hierarchy died after contracting the covid-19 disease, according to Iranian news outlets.

Iran’s health ministry said the number of new infections had increased by 1,053, bringing the total to 14,991. The number of deaths jumped by 129 to 853, state television reported."

we are so effed.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 16, 2020, 03:06:12 pm
"Iran reported its biggest one day jump in coronavirus infections on Monday as another senior figure in the country’s clerical hierarchy died after contracting the covid-19 disease, according to Iranian news outlets.

Iran’s health ministry said the number of new infections had increased by 1,053, bringing the total to 14,991. The number of deaths jumped by 129 to 853, state television reported."

we are so effed.

Imma not be the guy to post the links, but I've seen some absolutely horrid leaked video coming out of Iran and China... My... fucking... god.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 16, 2020, 03:07:55 pm
It is terrifying cause if you analyze data from China it appears Spain , Italy etc are spreading faster (higher on curve)


In fact how did China manage to contain it? That is what we should be studying 24-7....but it’s like this terrifying black hole we don’t want to enter

Seeing thousands of people at Disney yesterday or hundreds partying in the streets of New Orleans does not inspire confidence

So if all the above is true in a few weeks....
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 16, 2020, 03:10:38 pm
We were out walking our dog Friday afternoon after teleworking....we ran into a neighbor who invited us over for beers...the neighbor with four kids in multiple schools, who had just come from a wrestling tournament the previous day. Sorry, nope, we can't come over for beers.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 16, 2020, 03:13:42 pm
x
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 16, 2020, 03:15:41 pm
Bay Area "shelter in place" (https://www.sfchronicle.com/local-politics/article/Bay-Area-must-shelter-in-place-Only-15135014.php)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 16, 2020, 03:27:12 pm
How did it spread from China to Iran and why is Iran so hard hit?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 16, 2020, 03:32:16 pm
There are airplanes...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 16, 2020, 03:44:24 pm
There are airplanes...

Do China and Iran have a closely tied tourism relationship?

Some are saying the situation in Iran is much worse than is being reported.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/irans-coronavirus-problem-lot-worse-it-seems/607663/


Here is part of the answer to my question.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/irans-strategic-partnership-with-china-lies-at-root-of-its-coronavirus-outbreak-11583940683
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 16, 2020, 04:15:11 pm
In fact how did China manage to contain it? That is what we should be studying 24-7...

china's government confined millions of people to their houses.  not "stay home if you can, please", but "we'll arrest you on sight if you step outside your front door."  people complied.  cities turned into ghost towns.

that's just not gonna fly here.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 16, 2020, 04:27:30 pm
I think it’s going to fly
Or we all going to die!



What a couplet

Maybe I will use it on my album I have decided to record for my 50th
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 16, 2020, 04:32:56 pm
prayers for smackie:

"Across California, as the coronavirus marches through communities, life as everyone understands it in the Golden State is changing dramatically, hour by hour, minute by minute.

The state has begun enacting extreme measures to halt the coronavirus outbreak. On Monday, six counties around Silicon Valley, one of the hardest-hit areas in the nation, announced a shelter-at-home order"

https://nyti.ms/2vqzBFr
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 16, 2020, 04:56:48 pm
So much for Montana and three of the others.
looks like West Virgina takes it...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html
Can't take WV down...still holds the title of only state without know Covid case
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: rich_WDC on March 16, 2020, 05:10:56 pm
Speaking of West Virginia and the old Greenbriar....   Wonder if there's been secret talks of whisking away the seemingly-key government officials to an underground location, ala nuclear war planning.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 16, 2020, 05:52:10 pm
Speaking of West Virginia and the old Greenbriar....   Wonder if there's been secret talks of whisking away the seemingly-key government officials to an underground location, ala nuclear war planning.

Dr. Strangelove will be fully erect before this is over.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 16, 2020, 05:53:52 pm
In fact how did China manage to contain it? That is what we should be studying 24-7...

china's government confined millions of people to their houses.  not "stay home if you can, please", but "we'll arrest you on sight if you step outside your front door."  people complied.  cities turned into ghost towns.

that's just not gonna fly here.

i guess we're about to find out if such a request has wings: see my previous post about 7 million bay area residents being told to shelter in place (https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-16-20-intl-hnk/h_e980e97e28a5ccafafe39b2db54ce91f).
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 16, 2020, 06:00:17 pm
cleaning out the gene pool:

KID ROCK'S NASHVILLE BAR REFUSES TO CLOSE (https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/16/kid-rock-nashville-bar-big-ass-honky-tonk-not-closing-coronavirus/)
Mayor's Request Won't Fly
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 16, 2020, 06:21:59 pm
Ron paul still thinks it a hoax (http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2020/march/16/the-coronavirus-hoax/) updated today
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 16, 2020, 06:53:43 pm
trump gave himself 10 out of 10 for his administration's response to the coronavirus (https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/03/16/president-trump-rates-coronavirus-response-presser-sot-vpx.cnn)

always be sellin'.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 16, 2020, 06:56:58 pm
in somewhat good news
Mayor bowser just announced that DC bars and restaurants can start delivering closed containers of alcohol.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 16, 2020, 07:38:25 pm
in somewhat good news
Mayor bowser just announced that DC bars and restaurants can start delivering closed containers of alcohol.

Hell of a time to be alive.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 16, 2020, 07:43:28 pm
SNL halts production
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 16, 2020, 07:48:35 pm
SNL halts production
Hell of a time to be alive.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 16, 2020, 07:49:33 pm
SNL halts production
Hell of a time to be alive.

Helluva indeed
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 16, 2020, 08:06:27 pm
SNL halts production
Hell of a time to be alive.

Helluva indeed
Heilung of a time to be alive, you mean.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 16, 2020, 08:13:32 pm
Pompeo lectures Iran

Man that takes chutzpah

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 16, 2020, 08:47:34 pm
Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson leave hospital after coronavirus treatment: People magazine (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-hanks-idUSKBN2133VO?taid=5e701daff629ab00016abe70&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 17, 2020, 08:44:58 am
Goodnight sweet prince

https://twitter.com/TheMoCoShow/status/1239889329511636994?s=19
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 10:14:49 am
Hey parents of school-aged kid, how would you feel about no school until Fall?

https://twitter.com/TheMoCoShow/status/1239889329511636994?s=19
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 17, 2020, 10:24:20 am
Hey parents of school-aged kid, how would you feel about no school until Fall?

https://twitter.com/TheMoCoShow/status/1239889329511636994?s=19

Thank you for posting the same exact thing I posted one centimeter above
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 17, 2020, 10:27:52 am
Hey parents of school-aged kid, how would you feel about no school until Fall?

https://twitter.com/TheMoCoShow/status/1239889329511636994?s=19

I'm good, but my seniors are freaking out.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 10:38:46 am
Hey parents of school-aged kid, how would you feel about no school until Fall?

https://twitter.com/TheMoCoShow/status/1239889329511636994?s=19

Thank you for posting the same exact thing I posted one centimeter above

You're welcome. I also lose track of time and don't know remember how old your kids are. Are they in school and how do you feel about potentially no school until Fall?

There comes a point in time where overreaction goes beyond being prudent and encroaches into being societally disruptive. I'm not going to be the person who says what that point is.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2020, 10:51:13 am
Don’t we have enough shit to worry about going on now that we are going to worry about this?

It wouldn’t bother me in the least..you know what bothers me? That YouTube video of a man going through ten pages of obits in Bergamo newspaper
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 17, 2020, 11:07:31 am
MD Primaries delayed until June 2. Possibly online?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 11:23:02 am
Don’t we have enough shit to worry about going on now that we are going to worry about this?

It wouldn’t bother me in the least..you know what bothers me? That YouTube video of a man going through ten pages of obits in Bergamo newspaper

90% of the deaths in Italy are over 70, and what percent of them were smokers? We're going to tank the future of the world to save these remnants of the past?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/opinions/south-korea-italy-coronavirus-survivability-sepkowitz/index.html

I understand flattening the curve, but there has to be some limits to how much we're going to change society is this is indeed a disease that is mostly going to kill the weakest of old people.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2020, 11:25:03 am
I can’t even
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 17, 2020, 11:30:16 am
I can’t even
Can you still odd, at least? IF you can't do either, you need to get tested/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 17, 2020, 11:31:20 am
I can’t even
Can you still odd, at least? IF you can't do either, you need to get tested/

To be fair, irrational numbers are neither even nor odd.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 17, 2020, 11:37:01 am
Hey parents of school-aged kid, how would you feel about no school until Fall?

https://twitter.com/TheMoCoShow/status/1239889329511636994?s=19

Thank you for posting the same exact thing I posted one centimeter above

You're welcome. I also lose track of time and don't know remember how old your kids are. Are they in school and how do you feel about potentially no school until Fall?

There comes a point in time where overreaction goes beyond being prudent and encroaches into being societally disruptive. I'm not going to be the person who says what that point is.

It's definitely not ideal... But nothing really is at this point. I'm conducting full on school at my house, at least going on day two. Talk to me in a week.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 17, 2020, 12:25:32 pm
Don’t we have enough shit to worry about going on now that we are going to worry about this?

It wouldn’t bother me in the least..you know what bothers me? That YouTube video of a man going through ten pages of obits in Bergamo newspaper

90% of the deaths in Italy are over 70, and what percent of them were smokers? We're going to tank the future of the world to save these remnants of the past?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/opinions/south-korea-italy-coronavirus-survivability-sepkowitz/index.html

I understand flattening the curve, but there has to be some limits to how much we're going to change society is this is indeed a disease that is mostly going to kill the weakest of old people.

sorry this disease isn't relevant to you.  some of us like our parents. 
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2020, 12:36:37 pm
No kidding

One of the things that makes us human is we care about our elders...and have ever since we have been around..with the rationale employed by Space we might as well euthanize old people and the weaker cause of the cost they occasion society

It’s really kind of disgusting and troubling to read Space’s post no doubt stemming from the great inconvenience he has been caused by having his child home and having to be teleworking from home at same time as his lovable wife..get your shit together Space..I mean it’s been a few days

https://pagesix.com/2020/03/16/mel-brooks-and-son-max-team-up-for-coronavirus-psa/?fbclid=IwAR19dztkNbXgXaGLklVFDMhr03wUucWGHQsJx7xWmGrL4syAzXdP7-q7GrQ
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 12:49:10 pm
No kidding

One of the things that makes us human is we care about our elders...and have ever since we have been around..with the rationale employed by Space we might as well euthanize old people and the weaker cause of the cost they occasion society

It’s really kind of disgusting and troubling to read Space’s post no doubt stemming from the great inconvenience he has been caused by having his child home and having to be teleworking from home at same time as his lovable wife..get your shit together Space..I mean it’s been a few days

https://pagesix.com/2020/03/16/mel-brooks-and-son-max-team-up-for-coronavirus-psa/?fbclid=IwAR19dztkNbXgXaGLklVFDMhr03wUucWGHQsJx7xWmGrL4syAzXdP7-q7GrQ

FU Hutch. I'm perfectly fine teleworking and homeschooling, until the end of time. It's actually the life my wife and daughter dream of, and I can deal with it just fine.

I'm thinking of others. How many people are going to lose their jobs, their life savings. their homes, etc. because of this? Not everyone can sit at home and telework. Most can't.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 17, 2020, 12:49:51 pm
Quarantined Italians record messages for "themself from 10 days ago" during Coronavirus pandemic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_cImRzKXOs)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 17, 2020, 12:54:32 pm
$1,000 cash per person and you don't have to pay your taxes until July.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 17, 2020, 01:02:54 pm
Anybody else sick of the "we're here for you!" emails? Just got one that almost literally says that in the subject. I don't think I'll need the meeting room scheduling app for a while, and I've got enough kinky underwear for now, thank you very much.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 01:03:11 pm
$1,000 cash per person and you don't have to pay your taxes until July.

How about more for those who actually need it and none for those of us who don't.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2020, 01:05:04 pm
No FU Space

That was a horrible thing to post.

So dismissive of the dead...oh they were old and weak anyways


My reaction when I saw that video of the person turning the pages of obits in Bergamo was to cry - the human reaction-not think oh they were old and weak

So Fuck You

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 17, 2020, 01:06:22 pm
$1,000 cash per person and you don't have to pay your taxes until July.

How about more for those who actually need it and none for those of us who don't.

Yeah, that's part of it.  Deets TBA.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 17, 2020, 01:12:52 pm
$1,000 cash per person and you don't have to pay your taxes until July.

How about more for those who actually need it and none for those of us who don't.

Yeah, that's part of it.  Deets TBA.
To make Space’s point, they are talking families that make $180k still getting it. That’s . . . wild.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2020, 01:18:54 pm
It’s going to take time to work through it

I am guessing before this is all over government will have to assist and prop up many (millions) workers adversely affected...repercussions on taxes (refunds)....halt to evictions etc...lots of things will need to happen to help people through challenging times but the ONE thing that will not happen is society turning on the old and weak

Having said that if there aren’t enough respirators and you have a person who is 80 and a person who is 40 tough choices will I am sure be made...but we are not there yet and hopefully never will be
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2020, 01:28:42 pm
I mean if god forbid we don’t flatten this quick there will be mandatory curfews and the national guard will be roaming the streets distributing pallets of food, medicine  or something

People who say that can’t happen in the US simply aren’t being realistic
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 17, 2020, 01:41:39 pm
Having said that if there aren’t enough respirators and you have a person who is 80 and a person who is 40 tough choices will I am sure be made...but we are not there yet and hopefully never will be

i fear that we are headed for that in early outbreak areas, like seattle.  we spent a long time dillydallying before going on lockdown last friday.  that's a month-plus of the virus spreading.  probably won't be bad everywhere, but i can see certain hospitals having to make some very tough decisions in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 17, 2020, 01:45:20 pm
Maryland to turn vehicle emissions sites into drive-through virus test centers (https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/03/17/coronavirus-dc-maryland-virginia-updates/#link-OIQ4ZRTENRGI3KONEO2NDAOYOI)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 17, 2020, 01:49:37 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/4t9L3kJ/washing.jpg)

I know there's been a lot of these but this one is perfectly absurd.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 17, 2020, 02:20:45 pm
Just had a beach house rental out on Hatteras (Outer Banks) for the first week of April cancelled because of a travel ban. Fine with that. Little irked the rental company is taking the tact that "the house is available and you are welcome to stay there, it is not our fault you are not a Dare County resident, ergo no refund or rescheduling". Really?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 17, 2020, 02:29:51 pm
did they really say ergo in their email

That is a little shitty
Did you pay by credit card...you could probably dispute that easily
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 17, 2020, 02:33:27 pm
did they really say ergo in their email

That is a little shitty
Did you pay by credit card...you could probably dispute that easily
No, this was a summary of the phone call. They said the house is available and it's outside their control that I am not a resident of the County and allowed to get to the house, which they wanted to stress, is still available.

This is one of those where I'm going to let them give 500 other people this line of reasoning and let someone else run to their local news and get them to do a 180 instead of me actually expending a lot of personal effort.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 02:34:08 pm
Speaking of the beach, idiots.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SarahHollenbeck/status/1239621939729235968
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2020, 02:48:24 pm
This is why things like mandatory curfews and martial law exist

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 17, 2020, 03:02:07 pm
My 79 year old mother went and got a haircut yesterdaybecause she "needed" one. She says that she ran the idea past my sister first, and my sister said yes.
questions:
How is a hair salon open at all?
How does an open hair salon feel that serving the elderly right now is a good idea?
Does my sister have an ulterior motive?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 17, 2020, 03:51:09 pm
Maryland to turn vehicle emissions sites into drive-through virus test centers (https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/03/17/coronavirus-dc-maryland-virginia-updates/#link-OIQ4ZRTENRGI3KONEO2NDAOYOI)

This is a brilliant idea, great use of facilities already  setup for the handling the lines of vehicles
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 17, 2020, 04:58:21 pm
Just had a beach house rental out on Hatteras (Outer Banks) for the first week of April cancelled because of a travel ban. Fine with that. Little irked the rental company is taking the tact that "the house is available and you are welcome to stay there, it is not our fault you are not a Dare County resident, ergo no refund or rescheduling". Really?

I'd battle that to the bitter end.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 17, 2020, 05:14:33 pm
Just had a beach house rental out on Hatteras (Outer Banks) for the first week of April cancelled because of a travel ban. Fine with that. Little irked the rental company is taking the tact that "the house is available and you are welcome to stay there, it is not our fault you are not a Dare County resident, ergo no refund or rescheduling". Really?

I'd battle that to the bitter end.
As I said, I will let the hivemind of other people impacted do the labor there and see if it doesn’t work itself out.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 06:13:38 pm
Here's my story for the day.

I got mail saying it's time to renew my driver's license ahead of my expiration in early May. Since I need the VA RealID to fly (my passport is also about to expire), I had to go in in person. I don't know if I'll be able to fly in June, but i wanted to make sure my license issues were taken care of today, before the possibility of everything shutting down (indeed they are now shutting down for at least two weeks) and me not having proper id to fly.

When I arrived at DMV shortly after opening, there was a line outside, and letting one person in for each person who went out. The line was about 30 long.

A short time later, someone tried cut the line and a Latina or maybe Middle Eastern looking woman (point is she definitely wasn't Chinese) reported him to the armed security guards. The guards asked the crowd if the guy indeed cut in line and it was confirmed. They booted his ass out the door.

As he was exiting, he muttered "fucking Chinese looking bitch." To which someone called out, "Hey stop that, that's no cool."  I then added "Go to the back of the line you ugly Flava Flav looking motherfucker."

And surprisingly, rather than leaving in embarrassment, Flav went to the back on the line and stood in the cold rain like the rest of us.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 17, 2020, 06:17:31 pm
Space - I think you are in VA?

License expirations are pushed back 60 days as of this morning and real ID requirements aren’t in effect to October so unless I am misunderstanding your travel needs, you are fine (albeit inconvenienced).
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: rich_WDC on March 17, 2020, 06:21:25 pm
West Virginia.

We're now united as one nation.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 06:29:33 pm
Space - I think you are in VA?

License expirations are pushed back 60 days as of this morning and real ID requirements aren’t in effect to October so unless I am misunderstanding your travel needs, you are fine (albeit inconvenienced).

Yes, VA. Thanks.

I just wanted to get it all done and have one less think to worry about. My wife followed up later in the day, as her birthday/expiration is 25 days after mine.

Was it stupid of me to go stand in a line of strangers who weren't six feet apart (though i tried my best?) Probably, but i felt like it was a safer situation than being in a crowded grocery store Saturday morning. Nobody coughed. Nobody sneezed. I washed my hands in the bathroom before leaving and wore garden gloves when opening doors.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2020, 06:31:56 pm
Anybody standing in lines at this point is a certifiable moron


Unfortunately they are endangering everyone else...

I guess Space doesn’t care..he’s not old..fuck the old people they are weak

Moron
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 17, 2020, 06:34:59 pm
I'd also bet money space didn't call that African American gentlemen "a flava flave lookin mother fucker."
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2020, 06:37:20 pm
I wonder if he even went in a line...can he be that stupid?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 06:37:54 pm
I'd also bet money space didn't call that African American gentlemen "a flava flave lookin mother fucker."

Oh, he was a white guy.

An African-American guy probably would have been more insulted.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 06:39:10 pm
Anybody standing in lines at this point is a certifiable moron


Unfortunately they are endangering everyone else...

I guess Space doesn’t care..he’s not old..fuck the old people they are weak

Moron

Have any plans to go to the grocery store in the next few months? You're going to be standing in a line.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2020, 06:40:31 pm
Went on Sunday...no line

But you know what food is essential to survival...going to the DMV is not
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 17, 2020, 06:43:32 pm
People like Space are a great example of why we need martial law ASAP

People are just too stupid to make common sense decisions..and too selfish


“OMG I might not have a driver’s license for that trip that will be canceled...let me go hang out at a DMV!!!”

Then he shows off about it
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 08:04:56 pm
Serious question: Should couples with kids and no other family in the area be practicing social distancing from each other...so that if one parent gets sick, the other doesn't?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 17, 2020, 08:06:37 pm
People like Space are a great example of why we need martial law ASAP

People are just too stupid to make common sense decisions..and too selfish


“OMG I might not have a driver’s license for that trip that will be canceled...let me go hang out at a DMV!!!”

Then he shows off about it

What was your most recent concert, either attended or worked at? When was the last time you took public transportation?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 17, 2020, 09:58:06 pm
West Virginia.

We're now united as one nation.
Dang I was holding out for them
they had a good run
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 18, 2020, 01:46:24 am
Get ready guys to be forced to lock down in place. It’s coming.

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 18, 2020, 02:16:19 am
Serious question: Should couples with kids and no other family in the area be practicing social distancing from each other...so that if one parent gets sick, the other doesn't?

you're already tired of being around your wife and are looking for an excuse to hide out in the basement all day? ;D

seriously tho, i wouldn't.  instead of worrying about each other, with whom you habitually share your microbes; i would concentrate on avoiding contact with external sources of virulence. 
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 18, 2020, 02:20:11 am
We are so fucked

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1239975682643357696.html?fbclid=IwAR1Kqx5gAHxSlA_-jG2mKWRdhqdmHZ2qE0C9UY-6FOPxBJDCPhKf2WOBrU4
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 18, 2020, 08:34:39 am
Get ready guys to be forced to lock down in place. It’s coming.

Is that why Netfllix hasn't sent me another DVD even though i returned on Saturday morning? They fear if they send it, they won't get it back?

But seriously, I totally agree with you here.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 18, 2020, 08:41:48 am
We are so fucked

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1239975682643357696.html?fbclid=IwAR1Kqx5gAHxSlA_-jG2mKWRdhqdmHZ2qE0C9UY-6FOPxBJDCPhKf2WOBrU4

Does America have the capability to manufacture a large supply of ventilators in a short period of time? I'm assuming hotels could be converted to makeshift hospitals....
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 18, 2020, 08:52:23 am
I am really hoping that article is wrong...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2020, 08:56:22 am
I am really hoping that article is wrong...
me fucking too...
the actual death toll from the virus would be closer to 4 million Americans -- in a span of 3 months. 8-15% of all Americans over 70 would die.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 18, 2020, 09:15:32 am
Serious question: Should couples with kids and no other family in the area be practicing social distancing from each other...so that if one parent gets sick, the other doesn't?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dc/Scenes_from_a_Marriage_DVD_cover.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2020, 09:46:28 am
trump seems laser-focused on this virus issue

@realDonaldTrump
95% Approval Rating in the Republican Party, 53% overall. Not bad considering I get nothing but Fake & Corrupt News, day and night. “Russia, Russia, Russia”, then “the Ukraine Scam (where’s the Whistleblower?)”, the “Impeachment Hoax”, and more, more, more....


Last I checked the news was not talking about Russia or Ukraine or Impeachment....AT ALL
and 53%, come on man...even Rasmussen has him at 46
Although his support is still amazingly high
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 18, 2020, 09:57:52 am
Trump is done

Come November it will be

Covid19 1 Trump 0

It’s over...of course we are all going to pay
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2020, 11:24:32 am
dow breaks below 20K
how low will it go
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 18, 2020, 11:26:39 am
They will shut it down before it gets too low
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2020, 12:22:58 pm
Mick Mulvaney at CPAC: Coronavirus is the Dem’s new favorite hoax. They want to bring down the President.
- Audience cheers

we are soo fucked...

That aged well Mick
Outgoing acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney under self-quarantine (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/outgoing-acting-white-house-chief-of-staff-mick-mulvaney-under-self-quarantine-coronavirus/)
forgot he was only acting (like a chief of staff)

God 20 days ago seems like last decade
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 18, 2020, 12:25:26 pm
Let’s rename AD BC before corona

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 18, 2020, 12:47:25 pm
dow breaks below 20K
how low will it go
that is one scary looking chart
that other dip down to 22k I think was during the GOP gov't shut down over our 'state of emergency' at the border
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETZ8eY6XgAE_VPJ?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 18, 2020, 01:15:55 pm
It could go below 10,000 if thousands of people start dropping dead and there is martial law...but they will shut it down before that

I hope everyone has a safe job

President Trump just said the corona virus snuck up on us! He had nearly three months
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 18, 2020, 09:29:08 pm
Utahns.
Utahns?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2020, 12:15:32 am
It’s just crazy...this morning we had about 5000 cases...am going to bed and we are closing in on 10,000

At this pace in a few days we will have the highest number of cases in the world
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2020, 01:49:07 am
It’s just crazy...this morning we had about 5000 cases...am going to bed and we are closing in on 10,000

At this pace in a few days we will have the highest number of cases in the world

Snuck up on ya indeed.

but we're overreacting, right?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2020, 09:06:13 am
A Spacist Senator says yes


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/politics/ron-johnson-coronavirus-guidance-deaths/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 19, 2020, 09:18:48 am
A Spacist Senator says yes


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/politics/ron-johnson-coronavirus-guidance-deaths/index.html

I never said we were overreacting. I think we are still underreacting at this point. But if we're three, four, five years down the line and there's no vaccine, at some point schools and businesses will need to start reopening, don't you think?



Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2020, 09:27:13 am
Dude you are just trolling...I am social distancing from you!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Bagley on March 19, 2020, 09:39:56 am
There were no new cases reported in China yesterday.  So, that's a good thing!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 19, 2020, 10:08:26 am
There were no new cases reported in China yesterday.  So, that's a good thing!

Yes, it is.

Caveat is that there were no new community spread cases. There were 34 new cases in China, all brought from outside the country.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2020, 11:50:43 am
also, i don't know if i'm ready to believe the chinese government on this.  their initial reaction was as botched as ours, and i'm sure Xi is ready to put this behind him - so who knows, maybe it's a case of "less than 100/day?  let's call that zero, close enough, mission accomplished!"
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2020, 11:57:47 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETdsd1BXYAA48G8?format=jpg&name=large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETbj5G6XsAA4YyD?format=jpg&name=small)

Got someone to FFTY lou
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETfG7f7U0AEOqWT?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: lily1 on March 19, 2020, 02:53:46 pm
Agreed. While you've got to question most, if not all, countries' reporting of cases and fatalities, I'd really really really question the Chinese government.

also, i don't know if i'm ready to believe the chinese government on this.  their initial reaction was as botched as ours, and i'm sure Xi is ready to put this behind him - so who knows, maybe it's a case of "less than 100/day?  let's call that zero, close enough, mission accomplished!"
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2020, 03:00:15 pm
The more cases they had and the more fatalities they had the more impressive the fact they seem to have regained control of the situation....

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2020, 03:06:49 pm
the chinese gov't has not allowed the WHO in, and has kicked out many foreign journalists (not just americans...).  and now that impartial witnesses are gone, everything is suddenly all good?  hmmm...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2020, 03:30:28 pm
I don’t think anyone is saying all good

They are not in the clear..

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2020, 03:44:40 pm
Dow broke below 19k at one point...
52 Week Range
18,917.46 - 29,568.57
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2020, 03:58:40 pm
I don’t get the fascination with the Dow

I mean it will eventually go right back up....lots of people making a killing right now


I would expect it below 15,000 easy
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2020, 04:13:34 pm
I don’t get the fascination with the Dow
Well it isn't the whole market, just 30 big US stocks and a pretty big indicator of the market as a whole
it lost a 1/3 of it's value in less than 8 days...that's a pretty big deal, like 1929 big
Market and economies are different now, but still somewhat insane

Quote
I would expect it below 15,000 easy
Need some cash to take advantage of that :(
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 19, 2020, 04:20:36 pm
Quote
I would expect it below 15,000 easy
Need some cash to take advantage of that :(
Have you considered a side hustle where you write papers for college students for money?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2020, 04:30:31 pm
Actually you would wait til stocks cratered..take out equity from your home..buy stock..and then wait til it goes up...make a killing

You just have to have the stomach for it which you obviously don’t
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2020, 04:37:48 pm
Stocks in March 2009 hit 6500!!


Of course the stock market is a big deal...am just saying one would expect it to go way down...then recover...eventually...

the increase under Trump always seemed kind of out of all reason given the president puts everyone at risk...but Wall Street doesn’t exactly go up or down based on common sense
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2020, 05:42:47 pm
Quote
I would expect it below 15,000 easy
Need some cash to take advantage of that :(
Have you considered a side hustle where you write papers for college students for money?
I've considered it, but the plan falls apart when I realize that the students would flunk out and blame me because the grammar, spelling and even tense was so bad they got recommended for a remedial English class and an F on the paper
So if there is a demand for those kinds of papers...send em my way
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 19, 2020, 05:44:17 pm
I'm thinking a prequel to the compendium of numbers masterpiece.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2020, 05:44:43 pm
Stocks in March 2009 hit 6500!!


Of course the stock market is a big deal...am just saying one would expect it to go way down...then recover...eventually...

the increase under Trump always seemed kind of out of all reason given the president puts everyone at risk...but Wall Street doesn’t exactly go up or down based on common sense
I guess for me, I really want to rub Trump's face in it.  It's lame and I know it will come back (it may take 5+ years or even a decade)
It's like the major plaform of his whole 'why I'm so great'....well how's that workin for ya now
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2020, 05:45:39 pm
Actually you would wait til stocks cratered..take out equity from your home..buy stock..and then wait til it goes up...make a killing

You just have to have the stomach for it which you obviously don’t
I don't and when I take out equity, it's for trivial things!!!!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2020, 05:47:10 pm
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/90594703_2985838854771410_1570434128694738944_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_oc=AQl851POv828bacVy4q66dAqSOdarTVxVZu523EHuLSe60DSKdfUJiwWPvBsg3DPpJk&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=94f000c98babf1b9471931825cd75ce8&oe=5E98CAF0)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 19, 2020, 05:52:58 pm
I'm thinking a prequel to the compendium of numbers masterpiece.
We need it now more than ever.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 19, 2020, 05:57:23 pm
I'm thinking a prequel to the compendium of numbers masterpiece.
We need it now more than ever.

Just don't go negative.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 19, 2020, 05:57:52 pm
It's not even 6pm EST and the USA is up almost 50% over yesterday. Seems like we failed at social distancing last weekend.

 :'(
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2020, 05:59:49 pm
Seems like we failed at social distancing last weekend.

Texas and Florida crowds continue partying despite outbreak (https://abc13.com/6027482/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2020, 06:02:50 pm
I'm thinking a prequel to the compendium of numbers masterpiece.
We need it now more than ever.

Just don't go negative.
hmm, was thinking the prequel could only be negative...you made it much more challenging
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2020, 07:29:56 pm
We are at 13,000 cases

Imagine if they could test everyone?

You can have it and hardly feel it


I saw someone I know posted pics of himself with his family at the beach in FL

Young guy..early 20s

I think people just don’t get it...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 19, 2020, 08:07:27 pm
We are at 13,000 cases

Imagine if they could test everyone?

official count of COVID-19 cases in the US:
3/15: 3,680
3/16: 4,663
3/17: 6,411
3/18: 9,259
3/19: 13,000+
source (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)

yeah, this is going well.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 19, 2020, 08:10:27 pm
The 13k count doesn’t scratch it. 1 out of every ten people who should be tested even have access to a test. This is not going to be over in a week or three.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 19, 2020, 08:20:40 pm
Right. I mean HHS said 18 months, multiple waves.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 19, 2020, 08:23:37 pm
Right. I mean HHS said 18 months, multiple waves.
I was talking about wave one.

I have at least 10 employees with the exact symptoms pulling shifts in senior care congregate care facilities who cannot get a test if we want to pay full fair for it. We (the country, not my company) is straight fucked.

This is on Trump and small government rubes.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 19, 2020, 08:24:28 pm
Oh yeah,  that's more like 20 weeks.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 19, 2020, 08:42:52 pm
Here's my story for the day.

I got mail saying it's time to renew my driver's license ahead of my expiration in early May. Since I need the VA RealID to fly (my passport is also about to expire), I had to go in in person. I don't know if I'll be able to fly in June, but i wanted to make sure my license issues were taken care of today, before the possibility of everything shutting down (indeed they are now shutting down for at least two weeks) and me not having proper id to fly.

When I arrived at DMV shortly after opening, there was a line outside, and letting one person in for each person who went out. The line was about 30 long.

A short time later, someone tried cut the line and a Latina or maybe Middle Eastern looking woman (point is she definitely wasn't Chinese) reported him to the armed security guards. The guards asked the crowd if the guy indeed cut in line and it was confirmed. They booted his ass out the door.

As he was exiting, he muttered "fucking Chinese looking bitch." To which someone called out, "Hey stop that, that's no cool."  I then added "Go to the back of the line you ugly Flava Flav looking motherfucker."

And surprisingly, rather than leaving in embarrassment, Flav went to the back on the line and stood in the cold rain like the rest of us.


https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/tsa-says-expired-licenses-ok-at-airport-security/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2020, 09:57:00 pm
California issues statewide stay at home order
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2020, 10:42:43 pm
Germany is winning


11,000 cases as of today...20 dead...mortality rate 0.18%
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 19, 2020, 10:58:12 pm
Unemployment claims estimated by Goldman Sachs to skyrocket to 2.2 million from 280k


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 20, 2020, 12:05:18 am
official count of COVID-19 cases in the US:
3/15: 3,680
3/16: 4,663
3/17: 6,411
3/18: 9,259
3/19: 13,000+
source (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)

yeah, this is going well.

for the more visually-minded, this is what the curve looks like:

(https://i.imgur.com/rbVBfnL.png)

we should be at well over 20k tomorrow, and 100k by monday.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 20, 2020, 08:08:32 am

Here's my story for the day.
And surprisingly, rather than leaving in embarrassment, Flav went to the back on the line and stood in the cold rain like the rest of us.
reads like the ending of an American classic
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 20, 2020, 08:48:12 am
Germany is winning


11,000 cases as of today...20 dead...mortality rate 0.18%

Germany's numbers do sound a little weird. Only 2 in serious/critical condition, compared to 2500 in Italy, 800 in Spain, and 931 in France?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 20, 2020, 08:59:14 am
official count of COVID-19 cases in the US:
3/15: 3,680
3/16: 4,663
3/17: 6,411
3/18: 9,259
3/19: 13,000+
source (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)

yeah, this is going well.

for the more visually-minded, this is what the curve looks like:

(https://i.imgur.com/rbVBfnL.png)

we should be at well over 20k tomorrow, and 100k by monday.

God I hope not but am thinking same thing

I don’t know that most people can understand just how bad our government’s response has been

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 20, 2020, 09:35:53 am
Digestive symptoms too!
Daughter in NYC is feverish and vomiting and not communicating in real time.

  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-digestive-symptoms-diarrhea-almost-half-of-patients/?fbclid=IwAR1R5wxGhRftGIMaNwldn3K3mGnTLg6Ek4EeAZonWMa_NrNa2Ho82mkG3W4      (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-digestive-symptoms-diarrhea-almost-half-of-patients/?fbclid=IwAR1R5wxGhRftGIMaNwldn3K3mGnTLg6Ek4EeAZonWMa_NrNa2Ho82mkG3W4)

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 20, 2020, 09:41:02 am
Wow Challenged...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on March 20, 2020, 10:16:02 am
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/vQE5qtSGeQLZxKnFchd19wqWqLk=/1248x701/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/BM25KCTKBQI6VMMZHKLZTRKFCI.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 20, 2020, 10:25:20 am
Wow Challenged...

Just got an update. Symptoms seem to be moderating.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 20, 2020, 10:30:31 am
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/vQE5qtSGeQLZxKnFchd19wqWqLk=/1248x701/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/BM25KCTKBQI6VMMZHKLZTRKFCI.jpg)

Christopher Moore on Twitter:

A modest proposal: Every time someone uses the term "China Virus" reply with , "you mean the Trump Virus" and continue to use the term Trump Virus for the rest of the conversation. You know how he loves putting his name on things, and with those tiny hands...
9:56 AM · Mar 20, 2020·Twitter Web App

  https://twitter.com/TheAuthorGuy/status/1241000555343839233      (https://twitter.com/TheAuthorGuy/status/1241000555343839233)

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 20, 2020, 10:47:46 am
Wow Challenged...

Just got an update. Symptoms seem to be moderating.

That is very good news!


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 20, 2020, 12:23:46 pm
Sometimes I am embarrassed


Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) Tweeted:
This is a moral evil, potentially a crime against humanity: knowingly suffocating a country with a massive outbreak of a fatal virus from obtaining basic medical equipment: https://t.co/g8rRbmqdCn
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 20, 2020, 01:04:22 pm
did they really say ergo in their email

That is a little shitty
Did you pay by credit card...you could probably dispute that easily
No, this was a summary of the phone call. They said the house is available and it's outside their control that I am not a resident of the County and allowed to get to the house, which they wanted to stress, is still available.

This is one of those where I'm going to let them give 500 other people this line of reasoning and let someone else run to their local news and get them to do a 180 instead of me actually expending a lot of personal effort.
. . . and much as I expected, the NC Consumer Protection Bureau and AG have weighed in that this is illegal. No muss, no fuss.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 20, 2020, 01:19:11 pm
No muss, no fuss.
althought thougth you lived for muss and fuss
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 20, 2020, 01:20:48 pm
No muss, no fuss.
althought thougth you lived for muss and fuss
I'm outsourcing the majority of my muss and fuss. Let other people muss and fuss for most things and save my personal mussing and fussing for things that require a Julian-level of mussery and fussery. #Delegation
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 20, 2020, 02:38:19 pm
Right now my twitter timeline is all Bandcamp recommendations, sorry gang can't get to all of them..

and the disgrace in the WH berating a reporter for a softball question... 
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 20, 2020, 03:29:44 pm
https://twitter.com/tam_hardie/status/1241059476465242113
Dude in a fucking plague mask just appeared on BBC



https://ew.com/movies/shaun-of-the-dead-coronavirus-parody
above all don't be a twat about things, we're all in this together

Ok didn't read the article...but what a great headline
I Refuse to Run a Coronavirus Home School
My kids are watching TV, playing video games and eating cookies. It’s fine.
(https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/opinion/coronavirus-home-school.html)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on March 20, 2020, 04:30:23 pm
FedEx Field to be a covid-19 testing site.  Will they blow it up after this is all over?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 20, 2020, 04:34:35 pm
I was smoking 1-2 packs a week lately...not anymore! And I am fuckin cranky


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 20, 2020, 04:43:29 pm
I feel the same way
(https://media.giphy.com/media/JmD9mkDmzvXE7nxy7j/giphy.gif)
although I use end up in tears and shouting at the screen
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 20, 2020, 05:00:18 pm
^ he's touching his face...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: rich_WDC on March 20, 2020, 05:18:54 pm
FedEx Field to be a covid-19 testing site.
I'm assuming the $40-$60 parking fee still applies...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 20, 2020, 05:21:15 pm
FedEx Field to be a covid-19 testing site.
I'm assuming the $40-$60 parking fee still applies...
You have to buy tests for four diseases you don’t care about in order to get the COVID test.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 20, 2020, 07:20:05 pm
First COVID-19, now this shit. Africa thought they were getting off easy...

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/mar/20/locust-crisis-poses-a-danger-to-millions-forecasters-warn
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 20, 2020, 08:42:16 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/yk0PfXF/judith.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 20, 2020, 09:34:43 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/6Bk5npK/percussions.jpg)

Sometimes you win with autocorrect.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 21, 2020, 12:39:38 pm
Good advice from NYC Health (opens PDF): Sex and Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) (https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-sex-guidance.pdf)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 21, 2020, 12:56:11 pm
IMP Family Fund:

buy a gift card/IMP matches a donation to staff fund.

Our Staff. Our Venues. Our Artists. Our Community.

 

We always say we have the best staff in the world, and right now they need us more than ever.

The prohibition of gatherings in the city was just extended to April 27, which frankly, is painful. The majority of our hourly staff is effectively out of work until we are able to reopen, which is why we've created the I.M.P. Family Fund to assist in these difficult times. 

Starting right now, I.M.P. will match the value of every gift card purchased in the next week (through March 28th) with a donation to the I.M.P. Family Fund. Your gift card purchase is really a double whammy. Not only does it help our staff now, it is support for future concerts, artists and the venues when we reopen. (We cannot wait for that day!) What’s more, Friends With Benefits members will earn double points on the gift card purchase.

 

So, head on over to our merch page, and grab a gift card (or maybe a few) today to use for tickets to a future show, merch or concessions, and know that the same amount will go towards helping out our stellar team.

CLICK HERE TO PURCHASE A GIFT CARD!

  https://930-club.myshopify.com/products/9-30-gift-card?utm_source=hive&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=hive_email_id_50646&h_sid=d01aa67c1b-57b429e0f8987699350535d3       (https://930-club.myshopify.com/products/9-30-gift-card?utm_source=hive&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=hive_email_id_50646&h_sid=d01aa67c1b-57b429e0f8987699350535d3)



 
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 21, 2020, 01:10:43 pm
Thanks for posting that Challenged...some good IMP folk are hurting...

Many IMP staff hold down multiple jobs and have been let go from their other -sometimes primary- jobs...I know a few

The email I got said IMP was also going to pay staff an extra week’s check and gave staff option to donate that extra check to the fund if they wished
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 21, 2020, 02:36:07 pm
To be honest, I was there last week.

"It's tough times for those in need of a haircut" https://twitter.com/i/events/1241064250606415873
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 21, 2020, 03:25:39 pm
To be honest, I was there last week.

"It's tough times for those in need of a haircut" https://twitter.com/i/events/1241064250606415873

I got my first haircut in six months on March 10 knowing it might be my last for a while. And got my dog's hair cut on March 12.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 21, 2020, 03:34:58 pm
You are so prudent

It’s kind of disgusting actually
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 21, 2020, 04:42:00 pm
official count of COVID-19 cases in the US:
3/15: 3,680
3/16: 4,663
3/17: 6,411
3/18: 9,259
3/19: 13,000+
source (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)

yeah, this is going well.

for the more visually-minded, this is what the curve looks like:

(https://i.imgur.com/rbVBfnL.png)

we should be at well over 20k tomorrow, and 100k by monday.

We did it!

21240 as of an hour ago!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 21, 2020, 05:36:10 pm
You are so prudent

It’s kind of disgusting actually

So is smoking a pack or two of cigs a day.

I know my hairstylist appreciated the business. Most people cancelled on her that day.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 21, 2020, 05:41:51 pm
US mortality rate for COVIS-19 infected currently at 1.17% That will no doubt go up if they stop testing mild and asymptomatic cases.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 21, 2020, 06:15:56 pm
You are so prudent

It’s kind of disgusting actually

So is smoking a pack or two of cigs a day.

I know my hairstylist appreciated the business. Most people cancelled on her that day.

I believe I wrote 1-2 packs a week

Whatever dude...you are exhibiting some stupid ass behavior...standing in dmv lines check...hairstylist appt check grocery stores multiple times a week check

You must think you are immune to covid and you might be ok even if you get it...but you could pass it on to someone who isn’t

The DMV line...that was pure asshattery of the highest order
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 21, 2020, 06:36:27 pm
You are so prudent

It’s kind of disgusting actually

So is smoking a pack or two of cigs a day.

I know my hairstylist appreciated the business. Most people cancelled on her that day.

I believe I wrote 1-2 packs a week

Whatever dude...you are exhibiting some stupid ass behavior...standing in dmv lines check...hairstylist appt check grocery stores multiple times a week check

You must think you are immune to covid

WE're all going to get it, it's just a question of when. I like my chances of survival and full recovery. I also practice social distancing, and don't come into contact with anyone other then wife and kid.

The hairstylist appt was on the books for a month and was only three days after the first DC case.  Also five days before my employer mandated telework was announced. The appointment was on March 12, The DMV line (in which social distancing was practiced) was March 16. People on this Forum were still going to SHOWS on March 17/18. And would probably still be if DC hadn't shut them down. Why aren't you chastising them?

How long can you go without going to a grocery store? I'm good for about a week, but i need fresh produce and fresh fruit, that's going to help me be at my most healthy when i do get Corona.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 21, 2020, 06:50:49 pm
Where you at the DMV line when I was reading articles about flattening the curve and why it’s so important? Or about how non elderly without preexisting conditions will probably be fine but THAT’s not the point

Ok well got to move on here..got to stick an ice pick in my hand...never mind



 
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 21, 2020, 08:30:43 pm
Sorry but am extra cranky as I haven’t had a cigarette in 4 days
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 21, 2020, 09:02:30 pm
Putting this here..probably it’s already on here

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 22, 2020, 01:03:37 am
Excellent Twitter thread (https://twitter.com/NAChristakis/status/1240689935557865472)

Let’s talk about what happens if you get COVID19 and recover. Are you immune to the disease? How long does the immunity last? And what does that mean for your life and for the public health and economy of our society?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 22, 2020, 06:45:30 pm
Delaware stay at home order...getting close
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 22, 2020, 07:05:24 pm
official count of COVID-19 cases in the US:
3/15: 3,680
3/16: 4,663
3/17: 6,411
3/18: 9,259
3/19: 13,000+
source (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)

yeah, this is going well.

for the more visually-minded, this is what the curve looks like:

(https://i.imgur.com/rbVBfnL.png)

we should be at well over 20k tomorrow, and 100k by monday.

I don’t know...33,000 so far...not sure 100k by Mondayis really gonna happen
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 22, 2020, 07:24:38 pm
official count of COVID-19 cases in the US:
3/15: 3,680
3/16: 4,663
3/17: 6,411
3/18: 9,259
3/19: 13,000+
source (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)

yeah, this is going well.

for the more visually-minded, this is what the curve looks like:

(https://i.imgur.com/rbVBfnL.png)

we should be at well over 20k tomorrow, and 100k by monday.

I don’t know...33,000 so far...not sure 100k by Mondayis really gonna happen

Doubles every two days, sometimes three if we're lucky.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 22, 2020, 08:15:10 pm
My 79 year old mother went and got a haircut yesterdaybecause she "needed" one. She says that she ran the idea past my sister first, and my sister said yes.
questions:
How is a hair salon open at all?
How does an open hair salon feel that serving the elderly right now is a good idea?
Does my sister have an ulterior motive?

I feel you pain there, Challenged. My 79 year old mom with respiratory issues who lives in senior housing (that she jus moved into a few months ago) apparently spent the day apartment hunting (at a different senior complex) and "shopping" in spite of my brother (who has no kids) living in a large single family house 10 miles away.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 22, 2020, 11:10:55 pm
Harvey Weinstein tests positive
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 23, 2020, 07:42:44 am
Ron paul still thinks it a hoax (http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2020/march/16/the-coronavirus-hoax/) updated today
Still thinking it’s a hoax Ron ... now that your son has it
Karma

Here's one for the IT nerds out there
(https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/image/C562CAQH87EVwq99M9Q/comment-image-shrink_8192_1280/0?e=1585054800&v=beta&t=srST5djQ47gbq1e6ugyn-xTo6ud-hc3bXRRwI4VPKMs)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 23, 2020, 09:48:04 am
Over the years I have come to loathe Wall Street


Watch them pressure to get money for the companies

No amount of money from government or concessions ever satisfies them and it’s so easy for them to sell right now to put pressure on democrats to go along with Mnuchin and Republicans

I know regular people aren’t even checking their 401k’s

Let it drop...the package should help people not corporations...

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 23, 2020, 10:41:51 am
Let it drop...the package should help people not corporations...

I agree....Dems should not give any ground on this issue
I'm sure the GOP will say this is a shitty time to do it, but they have done the exact opposite in the past
and jez, we're doing for the poeple, not so the cronies in the big corps
I think the voters will understand that the GOP is not willing to compromise here



Is this true???
@Redpainter1
5 Republican Senators now in self-quarantine and will most likely not be able to vote.

- Rick Scott FL
- Cory Gardner CO
- Mike Lee UT
- Mitt Romney UT
- Rand Paul KY

Dems have the majority in the Senate.

Mitch McConnell's biggest nightmare.

Let's see what happens now.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 23, 2020, 10:45:32 am
It’s complicated cause when companies start mass layoffs which seems to have started a few hours ago Republicans will blame democrats for not passing their corporate welfare bill...

It’s a fine line but I just don’t see point of propping up airlines...help the employees directly..airlines will come back...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 23, 2020, 10:50:28 am
I also think this is the time to do a sweeping Election reform
Nationwide Vote By Mail!  (yes each state has to do it, but the fed gov't could provide funds and assistance to get it in place by Nov)


It seems corporate shame works in the social media era!
Target Donates N95 Mask Inventory to Hospitals, Apologizes For Selling Masks in Seattle
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 23, 2020, 11:14:15 am
Is anybody else worried voting by mail will favor Republicans?

Maybe it’s just me but the inner cities are a shit show? Have you thought it through about poorer more transient people actually getting ballots?

Not to mention can you not imagine states with Republican governors using this as a way in which to not get ballots to certain groups?

It’s a nice buzzword and ultimately am for it but...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 23, 2020, 11:15:30 am
Hogan shuts down Maryland (not a shelter in place)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 23, 2020, 11:28:31 am
Is anybody else worried voting by mail will favor Republicans?
My only fear is that the below 30-year-olds won't even know what a mailbox looks like
I do think that Rep's could have advantages in that they could ensure that everyone in a Nursing home can vote.

But if more Americans were able to vote (let's say we get 80ish % participation)...and they still vote GOP, we'll then the people have spoken
Currently, lots of people are not voting...vast majority would vote dem (maybe I'm dreaming, but that seems to be the case)

More votes... ensure GOP losses
that's why they try hard to suppress voting and use code words like 'stopping voter fraud' (which translates to how can we make difficult for likely dem voters from casting their vote) 
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 23, 2020, 11:55:27 am
Wow I just don’t think your assumptions are correct

And voter suppression of certain groups would continue

I don’t think you’ve thought this through...you are just assuming all best cases

I am in favor - generally - of anything that makes it easier to vote for people but if you don’t think a Republican governor in Florida, for example, would use this to fuck over Democrat voters hardcore...well

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 23, 2020, 12:40:29 pm
And voter suppression of certain groups would continue

I don’t think you’ve thought this through...you are just assuming all best cases
Of course....but would think if every resident who can legally vote was mailed a ballot (or could pick it up)
It would be easier to track
1. we'd document that every voter was mailed a ballot
2. we could document every received one and be able to do cross-checks so there was no double voting and fraud


But this is my fear

But some election experts warn that an abrupt adoption of vote-by-mail systems in states that aren’t sufficiently prepared would introduce new risks and avenues for disruption. The results, they say, could bring widespread confusion or even disenfranchise voters.

Would give trump and the GOP latitude to be like "we have to cancel the election results and we'll revisit this in 2024"


Not for nothing, but Amy (https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2020/3/with-unprecedented-disruptions-expected-from-coronavirus-klobuchar-and-wyden-introduce-bill-to-ensure-americans-are-still-able-to-vote) is trying to do something about it
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 23, 2020, 01:00:13 pm
To me wait til we win control of both houses of Congress and White House in a few months to do this

Right now Republicans would take advantage of this to screw people over and Supreme Court would back them

We need major electoral reform but right now is a non starter
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 23, 2020, 01:44:17 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/8YxGhsK/teaching2020.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 23, 2020, 09:17:09 pm
Worth noting for those imbeciles saying Coronavirus only affects old people who are worthless anyways


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1166961?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 23, 2020, 11:51:09 pm
who would think a coin could get us out of this mess...
(https://www.mining.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Trillion-dollar-coin-proof.jpg)
might need to put 2020 on it tho
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 23, 2020, 11:58:55 pm
I don’t know...33,000 so far...not sure 100k by Mondayis really gonna happen

yup, didn't hit 100k... i think we're at 50k'ish, numbers are lower ("only" 46k) on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/) because they define a day as london time (GMT+0), but we continued to report cases during our day...

... but regardless, the US now has the third most cases in the world (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries)!  we've beaten spain and are gaining on italy - the silver is ours!

U - S - A ! ! !   U - S - A ! ! !   U - S - A ! ! !
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 24, 2020, 07:42:29 am
And I go to Facebook and someone I know posted this. Folks, please don't blame the Chinese or Trump for this mess. Blame God.



In three short months, just like He did with the plagues of Egypt, God has taken away everything we worship. God said, "you want to worship athletes, I will shut down the stadiums. You want to worship musicians, I will shut down Civic Centers. You want to worship actors, I will shut down theaters. You want to worship money, I will shut down the economy and collapse the stock market. You don't want to go to church and worship Me, I will make it where you can't go to church"

"If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land."

Maybe we don't need a vaccine, Maybe we need to take this time of isolation from the distractions of the world and have a personal revival where we focus on the ONLY thing in the world that really matters. Jesus.

If you believe this copy and share. Start the revival in your home......Spread the Love of Jesus.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 24, 2020, 12:59:07 pm
uhh... wow.

when you're drowning, you'll grasp at straws...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on March 24, 2020, 05:39:20 pm
Liberty University students return from spring break and head back to campus.  Prayer, right?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Bagley on March 24, 2020, 05:42:14 pm
Liberty University students return from spring break and head back to campus.  Prayer, right?

blind faith
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 24, 2020, 05:44:05 pm
Liberty University students return from spring break and head back to campus.  Prayer, right?
Shit. Now I agree with Space.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 24, 2020, 05:46:54 pm
Liberty University students return from spring break and head back to campus.  Prayer, right?
Shit. Now I agree with Space.
problem with space is he is often right
but when he's wrong...he's really wrong
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 24, 2020, 05:56:09 pm
Listening to Rep Don Beyer on town hall call


Good to hear some things that will be on  stimulus package to help people in some of the industries with people getting creamed like performing arts, restaurants etc
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 24, 2020, 05:59:42 pm
Good to hear some things that will be on  stimulus package to help people in some of the industries with people getting creamed like performing arts, restaurants etc
What about people who use internet forums?
they deserve some stimulus!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 24, 2020, 06:22:55 pm
A kid who licked toilets as part of the #CoronaVirusChallenge says he's now in the hospital with coronavirus. @gayshawnmendes was also just suspended from twitter
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET0sFprX0AILSZd?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 24, 2020, 06:33:31 pm
Good to hear some things that will be on  stimulus package to help people in some of the industries with people getting creamed like performing arts, restaurants etc
What about people who use internet forums?
they deserve some stimulus!
I’ve long been of the position that my content is a public good I should be compensated for.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on March 24, 2020, 07:25:05 pm
(https://scontent.fphl2-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/90199791_2150827988396331_8421593963013603328_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=RFHUoaeXgP0AX_bpkVV&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-4.fna&oh=c154009e2bd9cbe63cb938ea48af5e7a&oe=5E9FE7B7)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 25, 2020, 08:49:37 am
Jackson Browne and Prince Charles test positive
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 25, 2020, 10:24:13 am
Jackson Browne and Prince Charles test positive
I just envisioned Prince Charles taking off his clothes to Somebody's Baby.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 25, 2020, 01:44:31 pm
Jackson Browne and Prince Charles test positive
I just envisioned Prince Charles taking off his clothes to Somebody's Baby.

we'd all appreciate it if you could confine your elite-porn fantasies to the JA thread.  thanks.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 25, 2020, 02:49:28 pm
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/health/coronavirus-gender-mortality-intl/index.html


Men might become a hot commodity


Imagine if 40% more men than women die...


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 25, 2020, 02:55:26 pm
Interesting

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/25/coronavirus-economy-stimulus-house-democrats-148512


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 25, 2020, 02:58:04 pm
I refuse to believe this is or will be the case


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/politics/donald-trump-gallup-approval-polling/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 25, 2020, 03:02:33 pm
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/health/coronavirus-gender-mortality-intl/index.html


Men might become a hot commodity


Imagine if 40% more men than women die...

If there were 3 million deaths (god forbid), that would mean 1.25 million women and 1.75 million men. So 500,000 more men.

 
There are currently about 3.4 million more women than men in the US.

164,751,515 males as of 31 December 2019. 168,113,791 females as of 31 December 2019.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 25, 2020, 03:04:55 pm
I refuse to believe this is or will be the case


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/politics/donald-trump-gallup-approval-polling/index.html

Won't stay that way if either:

1. Hundreds of thousands of Americans die from Corona
2. We plunge into economic despair
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 25, 2020, 03:05:11 pm
You guys remember that Beach Boys song where they're all "two girls for eve-ryyyyyy boy!!!" This forum has been so forward thinking for years.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 25, 2020, 03:18:55 pm
We have been hearing how horrible men are for years..maybe this is the solution

Who knows maybe next we will hear it affects white men disproportionately
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 25, 2020, 03:23:17 pm
We have been hearing how horrible men are for years..maybe this is the solution

Who knows maybe next we will hear it affects white men disproportionately

Looking at the percentage of deaths and critical cases compared to total cases, I want to know why it affects Italians so much more than Germans.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

And on a separate note, why is the CDC not releasing any statistics related to age, gender, and underlying conditions?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2020, 05:42:33 pm
G-7 failed to agree on statement after U.S. insisted on calling coronavirus outbreak "Wuhan virus"
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 25, 2020, 05:45:59 pm
And on a separate note, why is the CDC not releasing any statistics related to age, gender, and underlying conditions?

likely because trump told them not to.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 25, 2020, 05:50:22 pm
my wife got tested this afternoon because she's had some low-grade symptoms.  she said the test hurt like hell.  they jammed the swab down her nose until it reaches the back of her throat. 

(https://health.ucdavis.edu/coronavirus/images/coronavirus-testing.PNG)
 
in other news:
- Spain has nationalized all of its private hospitals as the country goes into coronavirus lockdown (https://www.businessinsider.my/coronavirus-spain-nationalises-private-hospitals-emergency-covid-19-lockdown-2020-3) (missed this bit of communist expansion when it happened 9 days ago)
- TV networks cut away from the White House coronavirus briefing as Trump contradicted his health experts (https://www.businessinsider.my/trumps-critics-say-networks-should-stop-airing-coronavirus-briefings-2020-3) (finally)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2020, 06:04:44 pm
I heard trump and pence complaining about it...'a pinch' they said
that graphic is giving me nightmares
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 25, 2020, 06:09:40 pm
I heard trump and pence complaining about it...'a pinch' they said
that graphic is giving me nightmares
Yeah, I'll just die. It's fine.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2020, 08:33:14 pm
Been almost two decades since I've been to Murphy's
this is oddly specific, but I guess that's a good thing
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET_rGgUWkAEUD4P?format=jpg&name=small)
Probably going to put that great place out of business :(
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 25, 2020, 08:39:40 pm
Been almost two decades since I've been to Murphy's
this is oddly specific, but I guess that's a good thing
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET_rGgUWkAEUD4P?format=jpg&name=small)
Probably going to put that great place out of business :(
I’ve always been an O'Connells man, myself.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2020, 09:02:36 pm
If you want some light reading, here’s the text to the Senate stimulus bill

https://politico.com/f/?id=00000171-1429-d270-a773-777f92a00000


833 pages!

I hear the Kennedy Center gets $25mil
well they are government run and easily will lose that much durring this
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 25, 2020, 09:12:51 pm
It sounds like the bill is just spreading a lot of money around... a lot of it for pointless stuff...disappointing

The goal should not be to waste a ton of money

I guess you could argue give the Kennedy Center money and a lot of it will end up being paid to people but...they book shows so get kind of a subsidy

It’s all a clusterfuck I guess



Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2020, 10:02:54 pm
Yeah, seems like their idea of compromise is
"Well, you 50mill for that, I should get $70 mil for my thing"
"wow that is a great compromise, let's get that in the bill"

this was good
(https://external-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQCE6WFgicxb0_2d&w=540&h=282&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FET4tKN8VAAAL4KV.jpg&cfs=1&upscale=1&fallback=news_d_placeholder_publisher&_nc_hash=AQAMfjdcPpyaraBS)
the ads of late using his own words have been pretty brutal on this
if he did one or two pressers a week, he'd probably be in better shape
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 25, 2020, 10:30:56 pm
Those ads will be THE main attack ads in the Fall


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 07:56:58 am
yikes...
This morning the Department of Labor is expected to announce that as many as 3.4 million people filed for unemployment insurance last week.

    Not only would that be the highest level in history, it would be nearly five times the highest level of claims seen during the Great Recession.




This was good...
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/91084763_10158094949312745_5601320039035699200_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=c426qMwu6dcAX893XZE&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=667d8817e7fbcea6f4ce48bc01db541c&oe=5EA205A9)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 26, 2020, 08:17:05 am
I am just not seeing the humor in these things today

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: lily1 on March 26, 2020, 08:58:09 am
Germany is classifying cause of death differently than Italy so that partially explains the difference in numbers/percentages. I learned this watching an Italian broadcast earlier this week.*

If a German has an underlying medical issue and COVID 19 then COVID 19 is not listed as cause of death. Whereas an Italian who has an underlying medical issue and COVID 19 then COVID 19 is listed as cause of death. I believe this is also presenting in the US as states are following different reporting protocols.

I will dig around and see if I can find the broadcast again as well as the article (either in the Post or Times).*

*Of course, I take neither source at face value as the situation changes hourly, just another way to consider things. These are just some other details to help form your own opinions on this.

We have been hearing how horrible men are for years..maybe this is the solution

Who knows maybe next we will hear it affects white men disproportionately

Looking at the percentage of deaths and critical cases compared to total cases, I want to know why it affects Italians so much more than Germans.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

And on a separate note, why is the CDC not releasing any statistics related to age, gender, and underlying conditions?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 09:01:26 am
^crap in crap out of data collection
Edit...it is Garbage in, garbage out.

so we'll never know actual numbers if everyone is reporting differently
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 26, 2020, 09:11:50 am
3.28 million unemployment claims


Interesting to read economists think we will go into a recession and rebound later in year

That last part seems a highly optimistic reading of the situation to me

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 26, 2020, 09:16:37 am
These are INITIAL claims so people just laid off...


Some kind of hoax this turned out to be
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 09:26:18 am
this chart...
(https://images.markets.businessinsider.com/image/5e74cbfac485401ddc19e8c2-1667/gs-initial-claims-projection-2x1-with-arrow.png)

What's scary is this was made last week and used a lower than actual number (1 mil lower)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 26, 2020, 10:22:25 am
In all seriousness and this could possibly merrit its own thread. How's everyone's current mental health status?

I'd say I'm at about a 4.125/10 today... Definitely the worst I've felt over the past few weeks.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 26, 2020, 10:37:15 am
In all seriousness and this could possibly merrit its own thread. How's everyone's current mental health status?

I'd say I'm at about a 4.125/10 today... Definitely the worst I've felt over the past few weeks.

Not great but I always try to consider daily all that I'm grateful for, even when times are good. Like the fact that I'm physically well aside from the aches and pains of 52.

About a year ago I had some kind of respiratory illness which was mild to moderate during the day but was so bad at night that I felt like I was uncontrollably coughing my lungs up, and was having trouble breathing. Some nights I only slept a couple hours. Never a good might of sleep. Sleeping sitting up helped a little, but I'm not one who is typically able to sleep sitting up. And this went on for a few weeks. I definitely don't want to get anything like that, or worse, ever again.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 26, 2020, 10:42:40 am
I am pretty poor today actually and have slept poorly all week waking up in the middle of the night and not being able to go back to sleep..my issue is with   the horrible Trump response...thousands of people are going to die painfully in NYC and Trump and Republicans couldn’t care less. I am very upset by this...just as I am by all the Italians and Spanish people dropping dead (Argentina’s roots are mainly Italy - my family- and Spain mixed with European Jewry- my family) trying to stay away from FB
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 12:22:55 pm
Forget 4 years. Are you better off now than you were 4 weeks ago?

Personally, hanging in there...my #coronabeard is coming in nice.  News is definitely stressing me more than it was before and the prospect of not getting out for a beer or a show is starting to sink in. I have a lot of people I'm close to in high risk groups...so that has me a little stressed out too

works been busy (I work in IT, so getting all my client's remote stuff up has been a full-time job) so been very distracted by that

Kids are starting to lose their shit tho, we are trying to limit them to only 9 hours of screen time a day and they are claiming we are running a prison.



---
DC of course got screwed by the GOP
@councilofdc
It. Was. Intentional.

From comments on the Senate floor last night, it appears that the decision to treat DC like a territory and give us $500 million, instead of treating us like a state and giving us $1.25 Billion, was deliberate.

D.C. residents pay federal taxes and there are more of us than Wyoming and Vermont -- and yet our city will receive 60% less funding than states ($500M compared to $1.25B)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on March 26, 2020, 12:31:48 pm
PSA - safe grocery shopping.  I don't imagine people are doing all this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDuwc9KBps&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR25uboi-tkR3n6yy3KBYI9j7kbBFGKh4uTjfaI1HdTNafCfYFBTCsjEW2Y
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 12:37:13 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/NVN829R/my-corona.jpg)
The Knack Finally Does the ‘My Sharona’ Parody You’ve Been Waiting For (https://www.vulture.com/2020/03/my-sharona-the-knack-song-bye-corona.html)

actually pretty cool...lead singer has already passed, so just focused on the solo
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 26, 2020, 12:44:01 pm
I agree..support record stores..we now have quite a few good ones around


https://twitter.com/MuteUK/status/1243161803103916033?s=20
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 02:19:21 pm
broke 500,000 confirmed cases worldwide
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Also, the US is in 3rd place, but from the looks of it, we might take out Italy and china this week
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 26, 2020, 02:56:05 pm
broke 500,000 confirmed cases worldwide
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Also, the US is in 3rd place, but from the looks of it, we might take out Italy and china this week

That's about in in every 15,000 human beings on Earth.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 04:20:04 pm
broke 500,000 confirmed cases worldwide
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Also, the US is in 3rd place, but from the looks of it, we might take out Italy and china this week

That's about in in every 15,000 human beings on Earth.
well, lets be clear that is just confirmed cases and we know that millions haven't been tested that surely are infected
also do we really trust China's (or even the US) numbers

Also you could have just said its 0.006% of the world pop
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 26, 2020, 04:45:33 pm
We've moved past Italy and are set to pass China for #1 before the end of the day.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 04:55:11 pm
We've moved past Italy and are set to pass China for #1 before the end of the day.
USA USA USA!
althoug I just checked and Italy took back second and is up by about 500 people

Come on people, get tested, we can win this thing!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 26, 2020, 05:06:17 pm
We've moved past Italy and are set to pass China for #1 before the end of the day.
USA USA USA!
althoug I just checked and Italy took back second and is up by about 500 people

Come on people, get tested, we can win this thing!

Ahead by a nose?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 05:07:08 pm
#1 BABY!

Amichai Stein
@AmichaiStein1
#BREAKING: USA is now the #1 country that has the most COVID-19 cases. The US reached 81,999 cases across the country, surpassing China and Italy.


what's your source Mr Stein...if that is your real name

looks like this might be
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 05:59:00 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/91074407_3137152699654968_2190766357019099136_n.png?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=nnHNPXhCxrUAX_A_CqF&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=4fb2be65dfe4f1b712d8790d2c423713&oe=5EA36D87)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 26, 2020, 06:18:00 pm
I don’t know...33,000 so far...not sure 100k by Mondayis really gonna happen

yup, didn't hit 100k... i think we're at 50k'ish, numbers are lower ("only" 46k) on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/) because they define a day as london time (GMT+0), but we continued to report cases during our day...

... but regardless, the US now has the third most cases in the world (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries)!  we've beaten spain and are gaining on italy - the silver is ours!

U - S - A ! ! !   U - S - A!!!   U - S - A!!!

WE'RE NUMBER ONE!  WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!! (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries) 

there are no limits when you believe in yourself*!!!

(*and by "believe in yourself", i'm talking about trump - he clearly believed in himself and his ability to PR his way outta this one, and this is where it got us...)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 26, 2020, 06:24:47 pm
my #coronabeard is coming in nice.

nice, i hadn't bothered to check if "coronabeard" is a thing, but that's what i've been calling mine.  i grow a rather unimpressive beard, it takes weeks for it to approach respectability.  looks like i should (finally) have a full santa by the time this thing blows over... then i get to have fun torturing the missus with bad partial shaves (leaving a goatee, or mutton chops, a thin pencil 'stache, etc.)

wait - didn't the CDC say that beard should be avoided because they interfere with the proper operation of masks?  is this just another way the little guy can stick it to The Man?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 26, 2020, 06:56:37 pm
Y’all do know you can shave under quarantine, right?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 07:12:19 pm
then i get to have fun torturing the missus with bad partial shaves (leaving a goatee, or mutton chops, a thin pencil 'stache, etc.)
Dude...gotta go with the Zappa if you are going to do anything
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSrNkAsjnuhJQM5kItUAh2pGf32K0fPXBn4lefs_MfwsKL2k40x)
Then you can finish it off with the porn stach

Y’all do know you can shave under quarantine, right?
Some of us have to appear in front of clients regularly...so need to be all spic-n-span
But I'm doing my part, man.  Don't rain on my parade it's a rally beard

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 26, 2020, 07:33:02 pm
Having a beard supposedly makes you more prone to catching it

At least that’s what I heard
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 07:58:48 pm
Having a beard supposedly makes you more prone to catching it

At least that’s what I heard
you are just jealous  #cannotgrowcoronabeard

In good news
James Dyson designed a new ventilator in 10 days. He's making 15,000 for the pandemic fight (https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/tech/dyson-ventilators-coronavirus/index.html)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 26, 2020, 08:03:29 pm
I think beards are soooo ugly...also itchy

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 26, 2020, 08:13:15 pm
I think beards are soooo ugly...also itchy
better not say that in the beer thread
and...how would you know?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 26, 2020, 08:15:36 pm
Every year I try to grow one for five days or so
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 27, 2020, 07:57:35 am
Boris Johnson tests positive
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 27, 2020, 08:16:39 am
Boris Johnson tests positive
You hate to see it.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 27, 2020, 08:17:26 am
So did anyone figure out what Germany is doing right? Over 40,000 cases with 250 deaths


Is it possible there are multiple strains with very different fatality rates?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 27, 2020, 09:17:47 am
Boris Johnson tests positive

Oh man, I just saw the news story, and he's really not looking good.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 27, 2020, 09:23:52 am
Boris Johnson tests positive

Oh man, I just saw the news story, and he's really not looking good.
And now he has COVID-19 on top of that.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2020, 09:34:17 am
Boris Johnson tests positive

Oh man, I just saw the news story, and he's really not looking good.

Not to knock a sick guy, but does he ever look good?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2020, 09:38:25 am
I just got yelled at for not noticing/cleaning up the evening mess my daughter left while I was making my cereal this morning. And I apparently didn't correctly put away the pots I used to make dinner after cleaning them last night,

So I'm basically a failure of a husband.

When do I get to go back to the office?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2020, 10:02:20 am
Michael Rubin@MichaelGRubin
Woke up in the middle of the night last week with idea of converting our @Fanatics factory in PA that makes official @MLB jerseys into a facility that makes much needed masks and gowns and then donating  them to help fight this horrendous virus.This past weekend PA Governor @GovernorTomWolf  and Attorney General @PAAttorneyGen  each called me saying they desperately needed help getting masks and gowns to the frontline workers across PA.

Fast forward to today – @Fanatics  and @MLB  have halted production of all MLB jerseys and instead using that same fabric we make the jerseys with to make masks and gowns!! We have approx 100 associates working (extra distanced and in a very clean and safe environment of course)and plan to make one million masks and gowns then immediately donate and distribute them to hospitals and emergency management personnel across PA with the goal of extending this to NJ and NY – the epicenter of the COVID-19 outbreak in the US!!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUDxCVgXYAAajfY?format=jpg&name=small)
The pinstripes are a nice touch
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 27, 2020, 01:19:16 pm
So did anyone figure out what Germany is doing right? Over 40,000 cases with 250 deaths

Is it possible there are multiple strains with very different fatality rates?

so the official explanation is that they started testing early and often, and tested everyone - not just people showing obvious signs of infection.  they also started social isolation earlier than other countries.  per this line of thinking, they were able to shield many of the most vulnerable from getting infected (per WaPo (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/germany-coronavirus-death-rate/2020/03/24/76ce18e4-6d05-11ea-a156-0048b62cdb51_story.html), NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/03/25/820595489/why-germanys-coronavirus-death-rate-is-far-lower-than-in-other-countries), etc.)

<insert conspiracy>i read somewhere that Germany is coding (listing) the cause of death differently than other countries.  in Italy, if someone has an underlying condition and dies due to a COVID complication, they are listed as a COVID death.  in Germany, that same death would be listed as caused by the underlying condition.  AKA, it's a reporting inconsistency problem.</conspiracy>
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 27, 2020, 01:35:04 pm

<insert conspiracy>i read somewhere that Germany is coding (listing) the cause of death differently than other countries.  in Italy, if someone has an underlying condition and dies due to a COVID complication, they are listed as a COVID death.  in Germany, that same death would be listed as caused by the underlying condition.  AKA, it's a reporting inconsistency problem.</conspiracy>

The only place I've read that is here. I tried searching for a source but Google is being an asshole about it.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 27, 2020, 01:36:56 pm
House passes bill to stimulate America.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2020, 01:39:45 pm
House passes bill to stimulate America.
oh my, feeling it already
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 27, 2020, 01:42:48 pm
(https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200327&t=2&i=1508970051&r=LYNXMPEG2Q0XA&w=2560)

Condom shortage looms after coronavirus lockdown shuts world's top producer (https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-malaysia-karex-idUKKBN21E1PK?taid=5e7e3a3c5ef3770001784dc6&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2020, 01:56:15 pm
So did anyone figure out what Germany is doing right? Over 40,000 cases with 250 deaths

Is it possible there are multiple strains with very different fatality rates?

so the official explanation is that they started testing early and often, and tested everyone - not just people showing obvious signs of infection.  they also started social isolation earlier than other countries.  per this line of thinking, they were able to shield many of the most vulnerable from getting infected (per WaPo (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/germany-coronavirus-death-rate/2020/03/24/76ce18e4-6d05-11ea-a156-0048b62cdb51_story.html), NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/03/25/820595489/why-germanys-coronavirus-death-rate-is-far-lower-than-in-other-countries), etc.)

<insert conspiracy>i read somewhere that Germany is coding (listing) the cause of death differently than other countries.  in Italy, if someone has an underlying condition and dies due to a COVID complication, they are listed as a COVID death.  in Germany, that same death would be listed as caused by the underlying condition.  AKA, it's a reporting inconsistency problem.</conspiracy>

Lily posted that *conspiracy* here earlier this week. It actually makes a lot of sense to me. Certain as much sense as the official party line.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 27, 2020, 03:10:29 pm
Here's a conundrum we're currently facing.

Tuition for our daughter's pre School is due 4/1 for a total of approximately $1,000.

Said school has been closed the past two weeks and plans to have "virtual" circle time starting next week to engage with children who are 3 years old three times a week.

We were obviously given the whole spiel about keeping the school afloat, paying teachers, blah blah.

However, my family's income is impacted, we're taking care of our children all day, etc .
I personally don't feel obligated to pay.

What does everyone think? I know at least one guy that will take my skde.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 27, 2020, 03:15:28 pm
Absolutely not obligated to pay!

I would let it go

The only issue might be if they blackball you from enrolling in said school in future...if you care
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2020, 03:18:25 pm
Could the mortality rate be quite a bit lower than the initially stated 3%?

Meanwhile in Germany, anyone who shows flu-like symptoms and has in the past 14 days come into contact with a confirmed case, or traveled to a high-risk region, gets tested, according to official guidelines published by the health ministry. According to JHU, more than 41,519 people there have tested positive as of Thursday, with just 239 deaths.

And in South Korea, there is free and easy access to testing for anyone whom a doctor deems needs it, and authorities have been tracing the contacts of infected patients. As of Wednesday, the country had 9,241 cases and 131 deaths, according to JHU.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/health/number-of-cases-testing-data-intl/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 27, 2020, 03:18:29 pm
Absolutely not obligated to pay!

I would let it go

The only issue might be if they blackball you from enrolling in said school in future...if you care

Yeah... Have considered this and truthfully couldn't give a shit. My wife on the other hand.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 27, 2020, 03:24:57 pm
Would one even want one’s  kid in a school when the school made a stink about one having to trim the family budget during a pandemic?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2020, 03:25:25 pm
DTMFA Yada.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2020, 03:26:01 pm
Would one even want one’s  kid in a school when the school made a stink about one having to trim the family budget during a pandemic?

This. Though I'm not sure that is what they are doing?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 27, 2020, 03:32:55 pm
Would one even want one’s  kid in a school when the school made a stink about one having to trim the family budget during a pandemic?

Well, it would be interesting to see if other schools are requesting this. Obviously, all schools are different and payment periods are different. This school happens to do it five times a year and had the unfortunate circumstance that it fell during these times where many schools you may have already paid for your kids... Will those schools give refunds, who knows?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 27, 2020, 03:42:28 pm
Ok but they made the rules on payment!


Asking for a refund is a whole different enchilada
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2020, 03:43:39 pm
Yada...it's kind of a crappy situation.  But you gotta do what works for your family
They really shouldn't be charging full tuition for 'virtual circle' time tho

they certainly are going to have to let go staff if parents don't pay.
I'd imagine this could put a small preschool out of business to

far as I know, no one is issuing refunds for the rest of the school year
and you many contractually be on the hook for the balance of payments too

This is kind of an 'act of god' situation, not really the schools' fault or negligence
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 27, 2020, 03:50:56 pm
Look at the little schoolmaster
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 27, 2020, 03:56:10 pm
I appreciate the feedback from both sides of the aisle! I'd hate to see it go out of business, however, it's a "church" preschool which I'm sure has buckets of money behind it in a pinch and based on location and the majority of the pricks that send their kids there.

I would definitely feel bad for a teacher getting laid off, but I also feel bad for myself!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 27, 2020, 04:00:33 pm
No kids so that takes an emotional element out for me. Really comes down to “do you have the money and want to see this school succeed”? Sounds like your income has been impacted. Mine and my wife’s have not just as a result of the fields we work in — we’ve upped donations to some charitable things and asked for refunds on cancelled things to go stay with the orgs.

Yours is a totally different case. If this puts a strain on your finances and the mission of this particular preschool is not a top priority in your life - I definitely don’t think you’re in the wrong to pull her out.

There are so many organizations feeling the pinch right now and it’s great to want to help keep everyone afloat but people shouldn’t do it at the expense of their own reserves. Don’t really think there’s a wrong decision here, Yada.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 27, 2020, 04:04:34 pm
No kids so that takes an emotional element out for me. Really comes down to “do you have the money and want to see this school succeed”? Sounds like your income has been impacted. Mine and my wife’s have not just as a result of the fields we work in — we’ve upped donations to some charitable things and asked for refunds on cancelled things to go stay with the orgs.

Yours is a totally different case. If this puts a strain on your finances and the mission of this particular preschool is not a top priority in your life - I definitely don’t think you’re in the wrong to pull her out.

There are so many organizations feeling the pinch right now and it’s great to want to help keep everyone afloat but people shouldn’t do it at the expense of their own reserves. Don’t really think there’s a wrong decision here, Yada.

Gracious words Jules... We haven't been financially impacted...............yet. But I think it will come. It's more the fact that I just think it's bologna to ask me for a grand when I'm schooling my daughter at home and they pull the heartstrings narrative when in fact, I think the school is just fine. I think I've made my decision, now to take it to the wife!

edit: I realize my OG post said we've been impacted, that's not the case.... yet. But I'm doing the work they're asking me to pay for. Anyway, beating a dead horse now!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 27, 2020, 04:20:05 pm
Epidemiologists have to alter their models because Trump is a lying ass bitch (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/27/coronavirus-models-politized-trump/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on March 27, 2020, 04:45:41 pm
Virginia Pastor Who Said Coronavirus Was Anti-Trump “Hysteria” Dies From Virus (https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/atheism-secularism/virginia-pastor-who-said-coronavirus-was-anti-trump-hysteria-dies-from-virus-6OlmIzj2eUe-5X39utr-cw?utm_source=SP&utm_medium=SP&utm_campaign=SP&utm_term=SP&utm_content=SP&fbclid=IwAR1CgUBurf0achW-gPExeAtq6uB1XyK9Y8b1ltSBNFTik5puwpo5UeFBbuU)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 27, 2020, 06:06:07 pm
Yay! Over 100,000!!

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 27, 2020, 06:39:39 pm
Yay! Over 100,000!!

i was off by 4 days... mea culpa.

almost 16k cases in one day.  insane.


edit: now over 16k today.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 27, 2020, 07:37:50 pm
hey julian: according to trump, michigan doesn't matter

"I say Mike (Pence), don't call the governor of Washington, you're wasting your time with him. Don't call the woman in Michigan. Doesn't make any difference what happens. You know what I say, if they don't treat you right, I don't call. He's a different type of person. He will call quietly anyway, okay. But he's done a great job. He should be appreciated for the job he's done."
- Trump (https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-27-20-intl-hnk/h_5b74790df355ca229866f3e35dd8f4a6)

nevermind that detroit is projected to be one of the next epicenters...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 27, 2020, 08:08:00 pm
But this is a bit surprising as MI does matter to Trump’s chances as opposed to NY, CA, WA, NJ

Maybe he forgot? I doubt it....Weird
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2020, 08:14:16 pm
and he's blasting general motors too...there are lots of manufacturers out there, why pick one to go hardball with on twitter?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2020, 08:31:17 pm
It sounds like the bill is just spreading a lot of money around... a lot of it for pointless stuff...disappointing

The goal should not be to waste a ton of money

I guess you could argue give the Kennedy Center money and a lot of it will end up being paid to people but...they book shows so get kind of a subsidy

It’s all a clusterfuck I guess
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUH6rAWXQAA6He6?format=jpg&name=small)]
I will start off this was compiled by some asshat who hates the libs so hard he'd die to prove trump right

I support most of these things and some of them I could see staying, but coming under the umbrella of another relief program
and yes it's only 1% of the bill...but is still 2.3bil, not exactly chump change
but that it was in the bill...disappointing is really too kind
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2020, 09:05:59 pm
this reminds me of when hutch and julian started getting along
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUIO_lgWoAMmu_j?format=png&name=small)
these are real posts...these are crazy times, I don't think we'll look back and laugh...but will cry
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 27, 2020, 09:11:34 pm
It sounds like the bill is just spreading a lot of money around... a lot of it for pointless stuff...disappointing

The goal should not be to waste a ton of money

I guess you could argue give the Kennedy Center money and a lot of it will end up being paid to people but...they book shows so get kind of a subsidy

It’s all a clusterfuck I guess
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUH6rAWXQAA6He6?format=jpg&name=small)]
I will start off this was compiled by some asshat who hates the libs so hard he'd die to prove trump right

I support most of these things and some of them I could see staying, but coming under the umbrella of another relief program
and yes it's only 1% of the bill...but is still 2.3bil, not exactly chump change
but that it was in the bill...disappointing is really too kind

.1%
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 27, 2020, 09:12:54 pm
this reminds me of when hutch and julian started getting along
If you mean, once again, America needs leadership and Julian is showing you all the way, then yes.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2020, 09:15:39 pm
.1%
ok that was a little embarrassing...but even .1% and still $2.3bill..does it need to be in there to be the headline of every alt-right site
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 27, 2020, 09:15:55 pm
It sounds like the bill is just spreading a lot of money around... a lot of it for pointless stuff...disappointing

The goal should not be to waste a ton of money

I guess you could argue give the Kennedy Center money and a lot of it will end up being paid to people but...they book shows so get kind of a subsidy

It’s all a clusterfuck I guess
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUH6rAWXQAA6He6?format=jpg&name=small)]
I will start off this was compiled by some asshat who hates the libs so hard he'd die to prove trump right

I support most of these things and some of them I could see staying, but coming under the umbrella of another relief program
and yes it's only 1% of the bill...but is still 2.3bil, not exactly chump change
but that it was in the bill...disappointing is really too kind

.1%
Of which half is Amtrak which is de facto infrastructure.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2020, 09:31:54 pm
Could there be any worse news than this?

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR0VWjJm_GA2y86VBZ3ZETF9cG5UqCFiQzDlbWtVVB-pjhcKjpeEVvPRPl8&fbclid=IwAR2LmpNQllpy92laO0J8xeBkAbp-BGH73jxpfiPzKZRtJlHDJdZJ-oA8YBg&fbclid=IwAR3BDNGaEMsLe88CPAOW1cvlYHyj5sIgAYdM9Zcs6-SqC_7BnKf4bZHy-j0&fbclid=IwAR3PiFWAvO1tds5jIkySy5yCJaTFdlBJ2gvvEMCTaeZ9948ayJsPwqeaOjM
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 27, 2020, 09:33:18 pm
Well, I've seen better formatted links.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2020, 09:36:14 pm
Well, I've seen better formatted links.
go big or go home
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2020, 09:40:22 pm
Well, I've seen better formatted links.

If only Relaxer still worked there.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 27, 2020, 09:46:29 pm
I was going to say the same thing about Amtrak


The real money waste I think is going to be the hundreds of billions going to corporations
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 27, 2020, 09:52:21 pm
I kind of think if there had been no Kennedy center type stuff in the bill the alt right would just make something up and their base would believe it


They do this all the time and it works

When did it start? Speaking of Kerry when he got swiftboated in 2004 that was pretty low

I don’t know anymore...it’s been pretty sobering to see Trump’s approval go up...I think things are in flux but...still
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 27, 2020, 10:01:36 pm
402 Americans died from covid today so far...that’s a lot...

In a few days we might be at a thousand ...I hope not

Will people think this is not Trump’s fault  and he’s doing the best he can while he does almost nothing to help? When he did nothing to prepare? That things should go back to normal and kind of let’s block this shit out? Will the media not focus on the rising death count? Don’t want people too upset

Maybe the attitude on the part of many Americans will be: they told us millions of us would die and it was only a few thousand so Trump did great


I am at a loss here...I still believe he will lose handily in November but



Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 27, 2020, 10:10:43 pm
I mean no country in the world seems to have had a steeper curve..
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 27, 2020, 11:36:21 pm
But this is a bit surprising as MI does matter to Trump’s chances as opposed to NY, CA, WA, NJ

Maybe he forgot? I doubt it....Weird
He is doubling down on a popular mayor (she won by 10 points in 2018) in a state he needs....gotta be a reason (although he always needs an enemy)
I love Michigan, one of the reasons we are doing such a GREAT job for them during this horrible Pandemic. Yet your Governor, Gretchen “Half” Whitmer is way in over her head, she doesn’t have a clue. Likes blaming everyone for her own ineptitude! #MAGA

although...that is a pretty good nickname
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 27, 2020, 11:43:43 pm
But this is a bit surprising as MI does matter to Trump’s chances as opposed to NY, CA, WA, NJ

Maybe he forgot? I doubt it....Weird
He is doubling down on a popular mayor in a state he needs....gotta be a reason (although he always needs an enemy)
I love Michigan, one of the reasons we are doing such a GREAT job for them during this horrible Pandemic. Yet your Governor, Gretchen “Half” Whitmer is way in over her head, she doesn’t have a clue. Likes blaming everyone for her own ineptitude! #MAGA

although...that is a pretty good nickname
Yeah, I’ll give him that. That’s smart. John Kerry’s clever turn of phrase must have awoken some verbal flourish in our POTUS.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2020, 01:09:21 am
The real money waste I think is going to be the hundreds of billions going to corporations

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN, LOOK AT THE SHINY CONSPIRACY THEORY OVER THERE
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2020, 01:18:17 am
Well, I've seen better formatted links.

seriously, people, trim the fat off your links.  please.

here's a trick: look for a question mark in the URL.  there is a very good chance that everything after the question mark can be dropped.  let's take Space's butt-ugly link above:
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR0VWjJm_GA2y86VBZ3ZETF9cG5UqCFiQzDlbWtVVB-pjhcKjpeEVvPRPl8&fbclid=IwAR2LmpNQllpy92laO0J8xeBkAbp-BGH73jxpfiPzKZRtJlHDJdZJ-oA8YBg&fbclid=IwAR3BDNGaEMsLe88CPAOW1cvlYHyj5sIgAYdM9Zcs6-SqC_7BnKf4bZHy-j0&fbclid=IwAR3PiFWAvO1tds5jIkySy5yCJaTFdlBJ2gvvEMCTaeZ9948ayJsPwqeaOjM (https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR0VWjJm_GA2y86VBZ3ZETF9cG5UqCFiQzDlbWtVVB-pjhcKjpeEVvPRPl8&fbclid=IwAR2LmpNQllpy92laO0J8xeBkAbp-BGH73jxpfiPzKZRtJlHDJdZJ-oA8YBg&fbclid=IwAR3BDNGaEMsLe88CPAOW1cvlYHyj5sIgAYdM9Zcs6-SqC_7BnKf4bZHy-j0&fbclid=IwAR3PiFWAvO1tds5jIkySy5yCJaTFdlBJ2gvvEMCTaeZ9948ayJsPwqeaOjM)

right after the word "positive" is a question mark - let's delete everything after it and see if the link still works:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive (https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive)

boom!

"?utm" and "?fbclid" are always candidates for removal.  just test the trimmed link first, if it doesn't work then put the gobbledygook back.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 28, 2020, 09:48:18 am
Well, I've seen better formatted links.

seriously, people, trim the fat off your links.  please.


I mean,  this is forum.930.com, people. We have standards.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 28, 2020, 11:56:52 am
‼ LAST DAY‼ to  have your gift card purchase be MATCHED to support our employees, artists and venues! Thank you so much to everyone who has already shown your support. It means the world to us and our team 💗 https://t.co/Sow5ydkTxM
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 28, 2020, 12:36:31 pm
‼ LAST DAY‼ to  have your gift card purchase be MATCHED to support our employees, artists and venues! Thank you so much to everyone who has already shown your support. It means the world to us and our team 💗 https://t.co/Sow5ydkTxM
I hope all of you who use this board consider getting something
either the gift card or donating directly to the family fund...
I picked up two (bought when first announced and got another one yesterday)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 28, 2020, 01:01:13 pm
these number are skyrocketing
I think just yesterday we were talking at breaking 1000 us deaths since this started
I just checked and we're almost at 1900
world wide is almost at 30K
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 28, 2020, 01:09:55 pm
Yup New York City has turned into a nightmare

Quarantine order coming in a few hours
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 28, 2020, 02:56:32 pm
Quarantine order apparently not coming


Not legal
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 28, 2020, 08:53:52 pm
IRS Coronavirus Tax Relief page (https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 28, 2020, 09:11:43 pm
Quarantine order apparently not coming


Not legal

What exactly did it entail and why is it not legal? I know, I could probably just read it online, but I have to kick my wife and daughter's asses in Boggle for the sixth day in a row.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 28, 2020, 09:12:44 pm
Oh damn! Boggle throwdown!!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 28, 2020, 10:51:19 pm
Oh damn! Boggle throwdown!!

I won, though my daughter impressively had a six letter word double scored.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 28, 2020, 11:12:07 pm
Y'all need to be wearing masks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/03/28/masks-all-coronavirus/

 https://youtu.be/mkvecTCPPQs 
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 28, 2020, 11:22:07 pm
bleak news from carroll county, maryland - nursing home, 66 positive for the cirus, 11 ill so far.

   https://governor.maryland.gov/2020/03/28/governor-hogan-statement-regarding-outbreak-at-carroll-county-long-term-care-facility-doubling-of-covid-19-death-toll-in-maryland/         (https://governor.maryland.gov/2020/03/28/governor-hogan-statement-regarding-outbreak-at-carroll-county-long-term-care-facility-doubling-of-covid-19-death-toll-in-maryland/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 29, 2020, 11:18:26 am
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/KUDXW7AWVVGGRFRJAQVAXLOKJM.png&w=1440)

DUMBFUCK (https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/03/29/coronavirus-dc-maryland-virginia-updates/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter#link-NLLW6RNUCNCU3EQS3CKJURG52M)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 29, 2020, 04:30:42 pm
(https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/canada/2020/03/27/subway-shop-owner-tries-to-explain-coronavirus-medical-mask-promotion-amid-outrage-were-just-struggling/_1_subway.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 29, 2020, 05:50:22 pm
Not sounding great for John Prine.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 29, 2020, 05:52:16 pm
Oh no!

He is a national treasure
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 29, 2020, 06:19:58 pm
If you are hearing about #covid19 “reinfections” in Asia, I can offer you my take as a virologist. The best explanation for what we’re seeing is likely due to three things...

https://twitter.com/PeterKolchinsky/status/1244029896453754880
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 29, 2020, 06:44:18 pm
If you are hearing about #covid19 “reinfections” in Asia, I can offer you my take as a virologist. The best explanation for what we’re seeing is likely due to three things...

https://twitter.com/PeterKolchinsky/status/1244029896453754880

It's just one guy, but best thing I've read all day. Thanks.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 29, 2020, 07:04:41 pm
How Exercise May Affect Your Immunity (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/well/move/exercise-immunity-infection-coronavirus.html)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 30, 2020, 09:07:45 am
3.75 :-\
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 30, 2020, 09:38:36 am
3.75 :-\

Hang in there man, shit is going to get better.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 30, 2020, 10:41:01 am
thought this was a great gif on Axios about America waiting it out
(https://images.axios.com/szfTKbdr71WES8jgFM8C37EYghg=/0x0:1920x1080/1920x1080/2020/03/30/1585561161095.gif)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 30, 2020, 11:00:46 am
So “3.75” means Yada is not doing so great?

You should see me trying to help my kid with the million apps he needs to do this virtual classroom...I want to scream

My younger kid is dyslexic so this closing of schools is just awful for us..my other kid on autism spectrum so the lack of socializing implied by social distancing is not good...and they were both doing so well at school

But am still not willing to say let’s kill the old and weak

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 30, 2020, 11:07:14 am
Md. Gov. Larry Hogan issues ‘stay at home’ order  (https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2020/03/coronavirus-updates-dc-maryland-virginia-march-30/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 30, 2020, 11:12:00 am
Should have been ordered for entire country weeks ago


We are so slow to accept reality
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 30, 2020, 11:34:08 am
Md. Gov. Larry Hogan issues ‘stay at home’ order  (https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2020/03/coronavirus-updates-dc-maryland-virginia-march-30/)

It will be interesting to see if keeping people indoors really helps at all. I personally hope that they don't put this into effect in VA.


https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-q-a-part-3-is-hiking-ok-is-my-newspaper-infected-what-about-sex/

Q: How do I limit my exposure while hiking outside? When passing people heading in the opposite direction on a narrow trail, is there a risk of contracting the virus from the air, or in the air on the trail that they came from? What keeps me from from picking up their viral spray?
A: Outdoors on the trail, where there’s a breeze, the virus will probably be quickly killed by ultraviolet light from the sunlight. If a person is coughing and passes closely, it’s potentially possible that the virus could be transmitted. But the risk is exceedingly small.
In still air, the virus can remain suspended for up to about three hours. So if you walk into a room after somebody has been coughing, it’s possible that you can get infected droplets that are suspended in the air. But outdoors, I think it’s highly unlikely.
In hospitals, we consider a risk of substantial exposure somebody who has been within six feet for four minutes.
Dr. Lee Riley, professor and chair of Infectious Diseases and Vaccinology at UC Berkeley School of Public
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 30, 2020, 11:37:18 am
2pm major announcement from Governor of VA
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 30, 2020, 12:07:51 pm
OMG Hungary
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 30, 2020, 12:09:49 pm
OMG Hungary

Was just going to post this. Is it worth giving up our Democracy to save sick old people?

Hungarian Parliament passes bill that gives PM Orbán unlimited power & proclaims:

 - State of emergency w/o time limit
 - Rule by decree
 - Parliament suspended
 - No elections
 - Spreading fake news + rumors: up to 5 yrs in prison
 - Leaving quarantine: up to 8 yrs in prison

https://twitter.com/balazscseko/status/1244612142831198209
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 30, 2020, 12:19:11 pm
OMG Hungary

coincidentally, now trump is now taking the coronavirus quite seriously....
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 30, 2020, 01:22:17 pm
Not sounding great for John Prine.

Update, from his wife:

https://twitter.com/FionaPrine/status/1244655527554138115
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 30, 2020, 02:23:36 pm
Not sounding great for John Prine.

Update, from his wife:

https://twitter.com/FionaPrine/status/1244655527554138115
In other words “sounding better for John Prine”.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 30, 2020, 02:26:36 pm
Just annonced
Rep. Don Beyer @RepDonBeyer
NEW: Governor Northam just issued a mandatory stay-at-home order.

The order is effective today and says that Virginia residents must not leave their homes unless it’s for an essential purpose.

“Do not go out unless you need to go out.” — @GovernorVA



NBCWashington@nbcwashington
A stay at home order is issued for Virginians by @GovernorVA  effective today, following similar action in Maryland. Residents should not leave their homes unless it’s for essential purposes. The order is place until June 10, 2020.



Saw someone post this RE MD stay at home orders
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/91482355_3431998293493281_7396548740208656384_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=DvRSkW7j5xUAX8MCWNf&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=04e57b84b0a229405be5baa7837ac390&oe=5EA866D9)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 30, 2020, 03:02:44 pm
June 10?

Couldn’t they go month to month to give    us hope?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 30, 2020, 03:32:17 pm
June 10?

Couldn’t they go month to month to give    us hope?
I know the math is odd on that NBC tweet
30 days is April 30th
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 30, 2020, 03:42:35 pm
in case anyone need a covid funny:

https://www.facebook.com/enidrevhoy/videos/10158459445016803/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 30, 2020, 03:56:58 pm
Liberty University student tests positive for Covid-19 after Falwell reopens campus  (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/liberty-university-coronavirus-student-positive-jerry-falwell-jr)
I don't think Karma wears a MAGA hat
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 30, 2020, 04:39:35 pm
Liberty University student tests positive for Covid-19 after Falwell reopens campus  (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/liberty-university-coronavirus-student-positive-jerry-falwell-jr)
I don't think Karma wears a MAGA hat

oh it does - ironically. 
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Got Haggis? on March 30, 2020, 04:50:25 pm
the maryland state at home order (which is pretty much what we have already been doing) expires when the state of emergency expires..so no date. 

likely july or august

economy is fucked.  30% unemployment almost certainly.  At what point will society start to collapse?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 30, 2020, 05:13:39 pm
economy is fucked.  30% unemployment almost certainly.  At what point will society start to collapse?

we have a choice: economic collapse with most of the population healthy; vs. economic collapse with most of the population sick (and a very high number dead). 
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 30, 2020, 05:43:17 pm
It's unanimous: stay home, DMV  (https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/dc-mayor-follows-suit-issues-stay-at-home-order/2258676/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 30, 2020, 06:43:25 pm
(https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5e825e092200005b31b3afd0.png?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale)

In Move Likely Aimed At Liberty University, On-Campus Teaching Halted In Virginia (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/in-move-likely-aimed-at-liberty-university-on-campus-teaching-halted-in-virginia_n_5e8250dcc5b6d38d98a305e5)

That building couldn't possibly be any uglier.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 30, 2020, 08:19:33 pm
This sucks
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 31, 2020, 08:53:22 am
7.125

Things are looking up friends.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 31, 2020, 08:55:24 am
7.125

Things are looking up friends.
Did you get your beer delivery??
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on March 31, 2020, 08:57:13 am
7.125

Things are looking up friends.
Did you get your beer delivery??

To be honest, bender style drinking is probably why I felt like I did yesterday.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 31, 2020, 09:35:42 am
This is going to take such a heavy toll on people

You have to wonder if there isn’t a middle ground - once we flatten the damn curve- between killing Grandpa and shutting down the economy almost entirely

I hope there are a lot of people studying alternative ways of organizing society because 30-50% unemployment doesn’t seem tenable for months..and government can’t just print money forever...

As far as concerts...I could see big concerts being out for a real real long time

Obviously if warmer temperatures would stop this virus that would be huge as it would buy the northern hemisphere a few months to get a response together to this unprecedented crisis...developing a vaccine and treatments while increasing our medical preparedness is paramount

If this where to go on like this for many months a lot more jobs would be at stake and we would all be fucked

I think the current response is necessary because we are caught flat footed and shocked but this cannot be the entirety of it

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 31, 2020, 09:39:31 am
in case anyone need a covid funny:

Coronavirus silver-linings:

Jack Black is now on Tik Tok...
https://youtu.be/Oq5Ncn-E8uI
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 31, 2020, 10:06:59 am
This is going to take such a heavy toll on people

You have to wonder if there isn’t a middle ground - once we flatten the damn curve- between killing Grandpa and shutting down the economy almost entirely

I hope there are a lot of people studying alternative ways of organizing society because 30-50% unemployment doesn’t seem tenable for months..and government can’t just print money forever...


As far as concerts...I could see big concerts being out for a real real long time

Obviously if warmer temperatures would stop this virus that would be huge as it would buy the northern hemisphere a few months to get a response together to this unprecedented crisis...developing a vaccine and treatments while increasing our medical preparedness is paramount

If this where to go on like this for many months a lot more jobs would be at stake and we would all be fucked

I think the current response is necessary because we are caught flat footed and shocked but this cannot be the entirety of it

I just want to apologize for any poor choice in words I may have used to get my point across the other day, but what I bolded above is basically where I was mentally at, and still am.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on March 31, 2020, 10:08:21 am
Fountains of Wayne founder on ventilator due to Covid.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/fountains-of-wayne-adam-schlesinger-hospital-coronavirus-975653/       (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/fountains-of-wayne-adam-schlesinger-hospital-coronavirus-975653/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 31, 2020, 10:15:11 am
Yeah I can understand that, Space


It’s a stressful and frightening time for sure

I have read a few things we might do like isolating more vulnerable people while opening things up

I just hope there are a lot of better educated people looking into this cause it’s way above my pay grade

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on March 31, 2020, 10:17:38 am
Fountains of Wayne founder on ventilator due to Covid.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/fountains-of-wayne-adam-schlesinger-hospital-coronavirus-975653/       (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/fountains-of-wayne-adam-schlesinger-hospital-coronavirus-975653/)

Oh no was just at record store and they were playing Ivy which I love

Only things I haven’t cut out yet are grocery store, post office and local record store
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 31, 2020, 10:29:06 am
Fountains of Wayne founder on ventilator due to Covid.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/fountains-of-wayne-adam-schlesinger-hospital-coronavirus-975653/       (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/fountains-of-wayne-adam-schlesinger-hospital-coronavirus-975653/)

Oh no was just at record store and they were playing Ivy which I love

Only things I haven’t cut out yet are grocery store, post office and local record store

That's terrible news about Adam. Big fan of both of his bands.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 31, 2020, 10:57:12 am
Yep, saw this one coming. Shame on them for not recommending it from the get-go.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/cdc-considering-recommending-general-public-wear-face-coverings-in-public/2020/03/30/6a3e495c-7280-11ea-87da-77a8136c1a6d_story.html?itid=hp_hp-banner-main_virusmasks-915pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 31, 2020, 11:47:00 am
this sounds like good news...
BREAKING: The FDA has issued an emergency approval for a testing kit than can detect coronavirus in two minutes.
https://www.axios.com/fda-coronavirus-two-minute-testing-kit-bodysphere-a665429d-488d-4edf-bd36-9180e2a06e4c.html

We've got to test as many as possible

Edit...important note
Yes, but: These rapid tests can only detect the coronavirus in people who have had the infection for several days, meaning the test can't be used too early on when the body hasn't produced enough antibodies.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 31, 2020, 11:58:40 am
Cuomo tests positive
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 31, 2020, 12:03:12 pm
Cuomo tests positive
the anchor, not Gov
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 31, 2020, 01:18:09 pm
What if four of us did one of those virtual Happy Hours where we do the Zaireeka multiple boom box thing 2020-style on Zoom? Would this be awesome or would the board fold in on itself from the META?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on March 31, 2020, 01:24:46 pm
Ooooh if we get 9, we could do Brady Bunch"!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 31, 2020, 01:29:53 pm
Ooooh if we get 9, we could do Brady Bunch"!
Yada would be upset when we made him the maid.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 31, 2020, 01:35:16 pm
Naturally, We Now Have a Cottage Industry of Coronavirus Truther Assholes (https://www.thedailybeast.com/naturally-we-now-have-a-cottage-industry-of-coronavirus-truther-assholes)

Over the weekend, a growing number of pro-Trump personalities decided that the way to prove that the media was overhyping the pandemic was to film places where cars and ambulances show up to drop patients off. If the entrances were quiet and the parking lots mostly empty, they claimed, that was proof that the coronavirus’ effects had been overstated. Inspired by the #FilmYourHospital hashtag


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on March 31, 2020, 03:30:30 pm
The winding path of Trump’s response to the virus, in his own words (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/politics/trump-coronavirus-statements/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 31, 2020, 03:59:14 pm
goodness, sounds like the are using the same script from the impeachment, just changing the names
I do think there might be some value to this, but at the same time, why don't we focus on our mess and coverup

John Bolton@AmbJohnBolton
It’s very important Congress heed @SenRickScott and begin a comprehensive investigation of the @WHO  and their potential involvement in Communist China’s cover up of the coronavirus pandemic.

Quote Tweet
Rick Scott @SenRickScott
The @WHO receives millions of dollars in US taxpayer $$ and helped the Chinese Communist Party cover up a global pandemic.
Today, I'm calling for a Congressional investigation into what the WHO knew and when they knew it. Read more: http://bit.ly/SRS_WHO
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 31, 2020, 04:15:01 pm
goodness, sounds like the are using the same script from the impeachment, just changing the names
I do think there might be some value to this, but at the same time, why don't we focus on our mess and coverup

John Bolton@AmbJohnBolton
It’s very important Congress heed @SenRickScott and begin a comprehensive investigation of the @WHO  and their potential involvement in Communist China’s cover up of the coronavirus pandemic.

Quote Tweet
Rick Scott @SenRickScott
The @WHO receives millions of dollars in US taxpayer $$ and helped the Chinese Communist Party cover up a global pandemic.
Today, I'm calling for a Congressional investigation into what the WHO knew and when they knew it. Read more: http://bit.ly/SRS_WHO


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/china-trolling-world-and-avoiding-blame/608332/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 31, 2020, 04:45:05 pm
What’s the first specialty quarter of 2020?

Not a joke.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUZGyKjXsAk_sLT?format=jpg&name=medium)
The next one has a pangolin (joke)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on March 31, 2020, 05:11:13 pm
Naturally, We Now Have a Cottage Industry of Coronavirus Truther Assholes (https://www.thedailybeast.com/naturally-we-now-have-a-cottage-industry-of-coronavirus-truther-assholes)

Here's what's really happening at your Brooklyn Hospital, assholes:

https://www.brooklynpaper.com/warning-disturbing-video-shows-brooklyn-hospital-staff-lifting-bodies-with-forklift/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on March 31, 2020, 08:32:13 pm
i realize this makes me a horrible person, but: oh please oh please oh please oh please

Russian Hospital Chief Who Met Putin Last Week Has Coronavirus (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/russian-hospital-chief-who-met-putin-last-week-has-coronavirus)

(https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/izbSZ8bT4Tqc/v1/800x-1.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on March 31, 2020, 08:39:22 pm
i realize this makes me a horrible person, but: oh please oh please oh please oh please

Russian Hospital Chief Who Met Putin Last Week Has Coronavirus (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/russian-hospital-chief-who-met-putin-last-week-has-coronavirus)

(https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/izbSZ8bT4Tqc/v1/800x-1.jpg)

I'll still be your friend.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 01, 2020, 08:36:19 am
It just shocks me all the handshaking these leaders keep doing
Remember that Presser with all the CEO's on the WH lawn.   Would be crazy if Trump infected all those CEOs and they brought it back to their companies/home towns
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 01, 2020, 09:42:39 am
It just shocks me all the handshaking these leaders keep doing
Remember that Presser with all the CEO's on the WH lawn.   Would be crazy if Trump infected all those CEOs and they brought it back to their companies/home towns

Given what a germaphobe Trump is, I bet his hands were very clean before shaking those CEO hands. And I bet he didn't touch his face and immediately washed his hands after the presser.

I don't think they really know how much risk a quick one second handshake with an infected person is. Compared to say, siting close to them for an extended period of time, but not touching them. I've been trying to read more about the science end of it all but there's just a world of unknown at this point.

That said, he's supposed to be a leader, and those handshakes were not following social distancing codes.

I wonder if he's still shaking hands at this point, after seeing his fat fuck friend in a coma?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 01, 2020, 10:55:56 am
goodness, sounds like the are using the same script from the impeachment, just changing the names
I do think there might be some value to this, but at the same time, why don't we focus on our mess and coverup

John Bolton@AmbJohnBolton
It’s very important Congress heed @SenRickScott and begin a comprehensive investigation of the @WHO  and their potential involvement in Communist China’s cover up of the coronavirus pandemic.

Quote Tweet
Rick Scott @SenRickScott
The @WHO receives millions of dollars in US taxpayer $$ and helped the Chinese Communist Party cover up a global pandemic.
Today, I'm calling for a Congressional investigation into what the WHO knew and when they knew it. Read more: http://bit.ly/SRS_WHO


I think this is a good idea...but let's wait until the summer.
Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1
Informal discussions have begun on Capitol Hill about possibly creating a panel to scrutinize the Trump administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic that would be modeled on the commission that investigated the 9/11 attacks.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Got Haggis? on April 01, 2020, 11:00:42 am
It just shocks me all the handshaking these leaders keep doing
Remember that Presser with all the CEO's on the WH lawn.   Would be crazy if Trump infected all those CEOs and they brought it back to their companies/home towns

Given what a germaphobe Trump is, I bet his hands were very clean before shaking those CEO hands. And I bet he didn't touch his face and immediately washed his hands after the presser.

I don't think they really know how much risk a quick one second handshake with an infected person is. Compared to say, siting close to them for an extended period of time, but not touching them. I've been trying to read more about the science end of it all but there's just a world of unknown at this point.

That said, he's supposed to be a leader, and those handshakes were not following social distancing codes.

I wonder if he's still shaking hands at this point, after seeing his fat fuck friend in a coma?

yeah it sure seems like its spread by simply breathing in the exhaled air of someone that has it - not just a cough or sneeze.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 01, 2020, 01:26:41 pm
i realize this makes me a horrible person, but: oh please oh please oh please oh please

Russian Hospital Chief Who Met Putin Last Week Has Coronavirus (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/russian-hospital-chief-who-met-putin-last-week-has-coronavirus)

I'll still be your friend.

birds of a feather... ;D
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 01, 2020, 03:17:28 pm
200,000 baby!


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 01, 2020, 04:08:04 pm
A worse response than Trump's?

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/31/824611607/turkmenistan-has-banned-use-of-the-word-coronavirus
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 01, 2020, 04:10:03 pm
huh.  didn't think it was possible, but here we are.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 01, 2020, 04:32:43 pm
Cuomo tests positive
the anchor, not Gov
"
What did the Gov mean when he (regarding his brother) said "Thank god we found out soon and he has medicine."

What medicine was he talking about?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 01, 2020, 04:48:28 pm
I'm guessing he meant medical science.

Or y'know, "medicine"
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 01, 2020, 05:06:49 pm
Cuomo tests positive
the anchor, not Gov
"
What did the Gov mean when he (regarding his brother) said "Thank god we found out soon and he has medicine."

What medicine was he talking about?
he meant Pot, he has lots and lots of Pot
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 01, 2020, 05:07:58 pm
Pot in New York? I don't think there's pot in New York.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 01, 2020, 06:48:54 pm
Pot in New York? I don't think there's pot in New York.

you've clearly never lived in NYC.  i used to have it delivered, was often faster than pizza.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 01, 2020, 07:01:40 pm
Gotta love that Florida is still allowing religious gatherings. Crowded churches sound totally safe
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 02, 2020, 09:46:04 am
Just amazing how this thing spreads so easily

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/us/albany-georgia-coronavirus/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on April 02, 2020, 11:22:20 am
Almost like a red/blue state map.

Good night, sweet prince.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/02/us/coronavirus-social-distancing.html


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: BrettnotBritt on April 02, 2020, 11:49:02 am
Florida is going to get rocked and their stupid governor didn’t do anything worthwhile until yesterday because he was afraid of political ramifications instead of, I dunno, his citizens wellbeing.

Florida gonna Florida tho
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 02, 2020, 01:08:24 pm
darwin in action:

Florida religious services exempt from stay-at-home executive order (https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-01-20-intl/h_b2d27eeaa15e3e082511fb168c63575d)

best comments i've seen: "Looks like God's waiting room just got an express lane."

my dad lives in florida these days.  i'm terrified for him.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2020, 01:47:10 pm
Daily death numbers for the past three days seem to be quite a bit higher than projections were on Monday. They keep adjusting them upward and we keep exceeding them. They're getting painful to watch.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2020, 02:49:45 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUnqMuJXsAMJB1a?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on April 02, 2020, 03:33:47 pm
Man Tries to Ram Train Into US Navy Hospital Ship (https://gizmodo.com/man-tries-to-ram-train-into-u-s-navy-hospital-ship-do-1842645529)

wtf?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on April 02, 2020, 04:04:09 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUnqMuJXsAMJB1a?format=jpg&name=small)

You beat me to it. 1fuckingmillion. closing in on 250k in US.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2020, 04:11:23 pm
Between the asymptomatic, those awaiting results, and those who can't get tested, we're probably over a million in the US already, right?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2020, 04:34:35 pm
Between the asymptomatic, those awaiting results, and those who can't get tested, we're probably over a million in the US already, right?
I'd say even more
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on April 02, 2020, 04:59:52 pm
Looks like the mask announcement is next on the docket
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2020, 05:06:13 pm
Looks like the mask announcement is next on the docket

Where do you even get some at this point or are they talking about making your own with a t-shirt?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 02, 2020, 06:15:09 pm
Oh no Louisiana

The way I figure it you could have ten cases for every positive person with a result of covid...easy


Everyone should assume they have it

When so many people have it what is the point of testing ? You are not going to test everyone every day and since you have asymptomatic people what is the point? You don’t want to test people, comes back negative and they go out...

Testing makes more sense when you are considering reopening (or before it got out of control) but at this point? If someone comes to hospital with certain symptoms you can assume they have it

(Spitballing here...not a medical professional)



Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2020, 07:00:46 pm
Oh no Louisiana

The way I figure it you could have ten cases for every positive person with a result of covid...easy


Everyone should assume they have it

When so many people have it what is the point of testing ? You are not going to test everyone every day and since you have asymptomatic people what is the point? You don’t want to test people, comes back negative and they go out...

Testing makes more sense when you are considering reopening (or before it got out of control) but at this point? If someone comes to hospital with certain symptoms you can assume they have it

(Spitballing here...not a medical professional)

This thing is going to end up killing a hell of a lot of Biden voters.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 02, 2020, 07:05:48 pm
Now the key is to develop a cheap test people can do at home every day and get results in minutes

And what they call the antibody test to see if you have had it and are protected...you may not even know you have had it! I had a horrible cough a few weeks ago but think it was from over smoking or something else....but who the fuck knows?

And medical professionals need to answer definitively the question if you can be reinfected again or not
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 02, 2020, 07:54:20 pm
Looks like the mask announcement is next on the docket

Where do you even get some at this point or are they talking about making your own with a t-shirt?

putting a t-shirt or scarf over your face:
- if you're infected, it diminishes the number of viruses you exhale, and holds back most of the droplets when you cough
- assists with not touching your face (both as a physical barrier and, ideally, a constant reminder not to touch)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 02, 2020, 07:56:47 pm
When so many people have it what is the point of testing ? You are not going to test everyone every day and since you have asymptomatic people what is the point?

asymptomatic = having the virus (infected) but not showing the symptoms, such as coughing, shortness of breath, fever, etc.  HOWEVER, they still have the virus so a test will still show if they are infected. the test checks for the presence of the virus, not the presence of a fever or cough.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 02, 2020, 08:04:33 pm
This thing is going to end up killing a hell of a lot of Biden voters.

i think it's going to kill a lot more trump voters.

1) the governors who listened to trump and delayed enacting stay-at-home rules are all exclusively from pro-trump states, as far as i can tell.

2)
(https://www.statista.com/graphic/1/631231/voter-turnout-of-the-exit-polls-of-the-2016-elections-by-age.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 02, 2020, 08:05:05 pm
Yeah so what?

Are we going to test everyone every day?

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2020, 08:37:48 pm
This thing is going to end up killing a hell of a lot of Biden voters.

i think it's going to kill a lot more trump voters.

1) the governors who listened to trump and delayed enacting stay-at-home rules are all exclusively from pro-trump states, as far as i can tell.

2)
(https://www.statista.com/graphic/1/631231/voter-turnout-of-the-exit-polls-of-the-2016-elections-by-age.jpg)

I'm talking about inner city (Detroit, New Orleans, Atlanta, etc) diabetic (and other conditions) black people, who disproportionately have existing medical conditions (and 96% of those dying have pre-existing conditions). The older white people (i.e. Trump voters), primarily live in suburbs and rural areas, where they will be able to more easily socially distance. Not saying Trump won't lose some of his flock, but a disproportionate amount of black people are going to die from this.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2020, 08:39:18 pm
Yeah so what?

Are we going to test everyone every day?

You raise a good point and I haven't really seen an answer to that question.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 02, 2020, 09:04:39 pm
This thing is going to end up killing a hell of a lot of Biden voters.

i think it's going to kill a lot more trump voters.

1) the governors who listened to trump and delayed enacting stay-at-home rules are all exclusively from pro-trump states, as far as i can tell.

2)
(https://www.statista.com/graphic/1/631231/voter-turnout-of-the-exit-polls-of-the-2016-elections-by-age.jpg)

I'm talking about inner city (Detroit, New Orleans, Atlanta, etc) diabetic (and other conditions) black people, who disproportionately have existing medical conditions (and 96% of those dying have pre-existing conditions). The older white people (i.e. Trump voters), primarily live in suburbs and rural areas, where they will be able to more easily socially distance. Not saying Trump won't lose some of his flock, but a disproportionate amount of black people are going to die from this.
Anecdotal as hell but I have several aunts and uncles who are huge Trumpers. None are socially distancing. Total survivorship bias.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 03, 2020, 07:14:27 am
Wealth is a vector (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/coronavirus-covid-cities-second-homes-rural-small-towns)
 That’s what sociologist Tressie McMillan Cottom tweeted last week, in reference to the spread of COVID-19 across both the globe and the United States. Wealth is not the cause of every concentrated outbreak dotting the United States. But it’s the common denominator of so much of its spread outside of major urban areas. It’s the reason why so many of the coronavirus hot spots in the Mountain West — Sun Valley, Idaho; Gunnison County, Colorado; Summit County, Utah; Gallatin County, Montana — overlap with winter playgrounds for the wealthy. The virus travels via people, and the people who travel the most, both domestically and internationally, are rich people.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2020, 08:00:01 am
US sets record for single day covid19 deaths at at least 1169!


I think Spain has second number at 950

(China? We will never know...)


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2020, 08:03:09 am
US sets record for single day covid19 deaths at at least 1169!


I think Spain has second number at 950

(China? We will never know...)

Where are you getting your numbers? Worldometers has US at 968 yesterday, more the day before.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2020, 08:07:23 am
The Argentine newspaper

https://www.clarin.com/mundo/coronavirus-ee-uu-registro-cifra-diaria-muertos-alta-mundo-suma-6-000-victimas-fatales_0_PxijMM8Kz.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 03, 2020, 08:21:08 am
some great visualizations of the data on Covid-19

https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-coronavirus-infographic-datapack/

somewhat comforting is the Case Fatality Rate in the us (2.6) is a lot lower vs other countries in the world (avg 4.6)
but collection and accuracy of data is suspect

Important note on that graph
CFR is unreliable during an outbreak
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2020, 08:27:19 am
Comforting?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 03, 2020, 08:34:45 am
Comforting?
somewhat...in that I'm glad to hear that our medical system is helping people to recover better than the global avg, especially when we now have the most cases
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2020, 08:38:16 am
i don’t know how you can possibly conclude that....
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2020, 08:43:59 am
100+ people per day die in traffic accidents in the US daily. 12,000+ are injured enough to require medical attention. That has to be way down these days, right?

More than 38,000 people die every year in crashes on U.S. roadways. The U.S. traffic fatality rate is 12.4 deaths per 100,000 inhabitants. An additional 4.4 million are injured seriously enough to require medical attention. Road crashes are the leading cause of death in the U.S. for people aged 1-54.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 03, 2020, 08:51:52 am
Wealth is a vector (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/coronavirus-covid-cities-second-homes-rural-small-towns)
 That’s what sociologist Tressie McMillan Cottom tweeted last week, in reference to the spread of COVID-19 across both the globe and the United States. Wealth is not the cause of every concentrated outbreak dotting the United States. But it’s the common denominator of so much of its spread outside of major urban areas. It’s the reason why so many of the coronavirus hot spots in the Mountain West — Sun Valley, Idaho; Gunnison County, Colorado; Summit County, Utah; Gallatin County, Montana — overlap with winter playgrounds for the wealthy. The virus travels via people, and the people who travel the most, both domestically and internationally, are rich people.

Julian's America has never been more under attack.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2020, 08:53:59 am
I saw that coming...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2020, 10:48:55 am
The Feds declare gun shops an essential business.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52108162
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 03, 2020, 10:56:04 am
I saw that coming...
Please call your Congressman about sending us aide.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2020, 11:57:42 am
This thing is going to end up killing a hell of a lot of Biden voters.

i think it's going to kill a lot more trump voters.

1) the governors who listened to trump and delayed enacting stay-at-home rules are all exclusively from pro-trump states, as far as i can tell.

2)


I'm talking about inner city (Detroit, New Orleans, Atlanta, etc) diabetic (and other conditions) black people, who disproportionately have existing medical conditions (and 96% of those dying have pre-existing conditions). The older white people (i.e. Trump voters), primarily live in suburbs and rural areas, where they will be able to more easily socially distance. Not saying Trump won't lose some of his flock, but a disproportionate amount of black people are going to die from this.
Anecdotal as hell but I have several aunts and uncles who are huge Trumpers. None are socially distancing. Total survivorship bias.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/02/michigans-covid-19-deaths-hit-417-cases-exceed-10-700/5113221002/



Lansing — At least 40% of those killed by the novel coronavirus in Michigan so far are black, a percentage that far exceeds the proportion of African Americans in the Detroit region and state.

The first statewide release of mortality by race in Michigan, among the first in the nation, suggests that the actual percentage of blacks killed could be significantly higher — the race of nearly a third killed has yet to be disclosed.

In Michigan, just 14% of the population is black. And while the coronavirus outbreak has been centered in Metro Detroit, African Americans make up less than a quarter of the six-county metropolitan area.


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on April 03, 2020, 12:00:20 pm
I found the Hidden Brain podcast on the 1918 Flu situation to be informative....


   https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510308/hidden-brain         (https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510308/hidden-brain)

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 03, 2020, 12:56:28 pm
well one thing that doesn't really help since we're on lock down

gas prices
in MI, NE and OH and I'm sure a few other places are below $1 per gal!  some place had .69 cents!
(http://www.autospies.com/images/users/Agent009/main/69%20cent%20gas.JPG)

I paid $1.69 in the northern Neck VA last weekend and felt like I won the lottery
I don't think I've paid that little in over 20 years
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 03, 2020, 01:38:56 pm
Paid 1.29. Felt the need to take a photo.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 03, 2020, 01:44:02 pm
Paid 1.29. Felt the need to take a photo.

so where is it?!?  you can't TEASE us like that, post the pic already!

(oh my gawd is this what i have become?...)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2020, 01:47:19 pm
Paid 1.29. Felt the need to take a photo.

Did you remind your chauffeur to wear gloves when pumping the gas?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 03, 2020, 02:41:08 pm
(https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20200403&t=2&i=1512010103&r=LYNXMPEG321R2&w=2560)

With no fries sold, Dutch farmers face billion kilo potato pile (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-netherlands-potato-idUSKBN21L2K2?taid=5e877d3301cef40001c1632f&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on April 03, 2020, 05:50:47 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/92226358_10222877574194697_1947630633509453824_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=7hAGT_vR7B8AX-kE5XF&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=2cb0ae095be0513b518786eda8c2eb00&oe=5EAE08A7)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2020, 06:01:21 pm
I read an article that said DC Mayor expects covid19 to peak in DC in June-July with 1000 deaths

It’s hard to imagine if that is the city’s current thinking that any concerts will take place during those months

I am not sure why venues are rescheduling postponed concerts for June as the Ottobar emailed me they are doing for Guided by Voices...just isn’t going to happen


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 03, 2020, 06:11:57 pm
I read an article that said DC Mayor expects covid19 to peak in DC in June-July with 1000 deaths

It’s hard to imagine if that is the city’s current thinking that any concerts will take place during those months

I am not sure why venues are rescheduling postponed concerts for June as the Ottobar emailed me they are doing for Guided by Voices...just isn’t going to happen
This is just me speaking and I am not an epidemiologist I just can look at the daily charts of other countries and compare to ours and where we are, and also am listening to what the experts on my company’s board are saying, and from that, I predict late-May/early-June is going to be the wind down to normalcy and I think the second that corner is turned everything will open back up.

That said, I am known to be wrong.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 03, 2020, 06:12:06 pm
Man, I've never seen challenged in a Suit, but he sure does look dapper

I too have been surprised at the rescheduling for anything earlier than August
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 03, 2020, 06:12:45 pm
That said, I am known to be wrong.
can confirm
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2020, 06:34:55 pm
Well I sure hope you are right Julian

Indeed that is encouraging
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 03, 2020, 06:50:29 pm
And to clarify my opinion, I am not saying I think we should open back up then. I just think that is when numbers will be solidly going down daily and we will open everything up ASAP because (1) we are not a people in this country that know or embrace sacrifice; we are a nation of half-measures and (2) we have a president facing reëlection that needs a functioning economy.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 03, 2020, 07:45:36 pm
Nice umlaut bro
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 03, 2020, 07:56:48 pm
Nice umlaut bro
Its a diaeresis, you fucking cretin.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 03, 2020, 08:01:38 pm
TMI, man. Grab some Kaopectate and eat a prune.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 03, 2020, 08:39:11 pm
Overall, the study indicates, the economic impact of the pandemic was severe. Using state-level data, the researchers find an 18 percent drop in manufacturing output through 1923, well after the last wave of the flu hit in 1919.

Looking at the effect across 43 cities, however, the researchers found significantly different economic outcomes, linked to different social distancing policies. The best-performing cities included Oakland, California; Omaha, Nebraska; Portland, Oregon; and Seattle, which all enforced over 120 days of social distancing in 1918. Cities that instituted fewer than 60 days of social distancing in 1918, and saw manufacturing struggle afterward, include Philadelphia; St. Paul, Minnesota; and Lowell, Massachusetts.

“What we find is that areas that were more severely affected in the 1918 flu pandemic see a sharp and persistent decline in a number of measures of economic activity, including manufacturing employment, manufacturing output, bank loans, and the stock of consumer durables,” Verner says.

http://news.mit.edu/2020/pandemic-health-response-economic-recovery-0401
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on April 03, 2020, 11:24:12 pm
Man, I've never seen challenged in a Suit, but he sure does look dapper

I too have been surprised at the rescheduling for anything earlier than August

Thanks Hatch, I am a fine figure of a well respected man about town
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 04, 2020, 12:41:00 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUsb-imXgAAbv93.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 04, 2020, 08:55:19 am
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 04, 2020, 09:19:10 am
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh4uS4f78o
The daily show has really been finding its stride as of late

What is most powerful about that is they list the dates
Will be lost on their audiences, but I would imagine this will be powerful with those elusive swing voters
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 04, 2020, 09:47:25 am
That video is mandatory

Everyone should watch it

When Biden wins we need a new regulatory regime for media
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2020, 12:24:52 pm
This thing is going to end up killing a hell of a lot of Biden voters.

i think it's going to kill a lot more trump voters.

1) the governors who listened to trump and delayed enacting stay-at-home rules are all exclusively from pro-trump states, as far as i can tell.

2)


I'm talking about inner city (Detroit, New Orleans, Atlanta, etc) diabetic (and other conditions) black people, who disproportionately have existing medical conditions (and 96% of those dying have pre-existing conditions). The older white people (i.e. Trump voters), primarily live in suburbs and rural areas, where they will be able to more easily socially distance. Not saying Trump won't lose some of his flock, but a disproportionate amount of black people are going to die from this.
Anecdotal as hell but I have several aunts and uncles who are huge Trumpers. None are socially distancing. Total survivorship bias.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/02/michigans-covid-19-deaths-hit-417-cases-exceed-10-700/5113221002/



Lansing — At least 40% of those killed by the novel coronavirus in Michigan so far are black, a percentage that far exceeds the proportion of African Americans in the Detroit region and state.

The first statewide release of mortality by race in Michigan, among the first in the nation, suggests that the actual percentage of blacks killed could be significantly higher — the race of nearly a third killed has yet to be disclosed.

In Michigan, just 14% of the population is black. And while the coronavirus outbreak has been centered in Metro Detroit, African Americans make up less than a quarter of the six-county metropolitan area.

On Friday, the Illinois Department of Public Health became one of the few state offices to release some racial data. And the data showed a pandemic within the pandemic: African Americans are significantly overrepresented in infection rates in Illinois, while whites and Latinos are significantly underrepresented. African Americans make up 14.6 percent of the state population, but 28 percent of confirmed cases of the coronavirus. White people comprise 76.9 percent of the Illinois population, and 39 percent of the confirmed cases. Latinos comprise 17.4 percent of the state population, and 7 percent of the cases. In Illinois, Asian Americans were the only racial group without a significant disparity between their state population, at 5.9 percent, and confirmed cases, at 4 percent. (Nearly a third of cases were recorded as “other” or left blank. Illinois did not release racial data on Native Americans, or on testing, hospitalization, and death rates by race.)

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/stop-looking-away-race-covid-19-victims/609250/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 04, 2020, 12:28:15 pm
Wouldn’t that tie in to obesity rates?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2020, 03:58:27 pm
Wouldn’t that tie in to obesity rates?

Edit
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 04, 2020, 04:14:47 pm
What?



Well we are officially #1


First country with more than 1000 deaths in one day and it’s only 4 pm
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 04, 2020, 05:22:18 pm
What?



Well we are officially #1


First country with more than 1000 deaths in one day and it’s only 4 pm


I was going to say smoking too, but then i found this article that shows whites smoke as much as blacks.

https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/impact-of-tobacco-use/tobacco-use-racial-and-ethnic

So yeah, obesity, church attendance, intergenerational housing, more likely to be blue collar essential workers, etc.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 04, 2020, 05:29:56 pm
That’s why southern states are going to be hit hard


Obesity and smoking
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 04, 2020, 07:35:32 pm
Corona beer halts production during coronavirus pandemic (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-corona-beer-halts-production-meixco-during-pandemic/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=85837101)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 05, 2020, 09:15:00 am
Corona beer halts production during coronavirus pandemic (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-corona-beer-halts-production-meixco-during-pandemic/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=85837101)

I'm no fan of their beer or their parent company but that seems pretty BS.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 05, 2020, 09:51:18 am
So, are they pierced?

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/whats-the-deal-with-andrew-cuomos-nipples.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on April 05, 2020, 11:09:26 am
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/92719795_10220160208088166_6715274469302075392_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=rRagSs-ABdoAX8jTMmP&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=b6b1f96785a67c7e9f079269f115c9ed&oe=5EAFBF12)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 05, 2020, 11:14:03 am
Pic must be old
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on April 05, 2020, 05:38:18 pm
Nothing about that picture says doctored, except the sign.  Is that an important part of the picture?

#racistasfuck
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 05, 2020, 05:42:32 pm
I mean,

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/d-c-officials-close-fish-market-at-the-wharf-following-viral-photos
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 05, 2020, 05:58:23 pm
Wow

Ok


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on April 05, 2020, 06:11:27 pm
My bad - I apologize. You guys are screwed in about two weeks....
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on April 05, 2020, 11:26:02 pm
My bad - I apologize. You guys are screwed in about two weeks....

Why thank you.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2020, 08:17:39 am
Nothing about that picture says doctored, except the sign.  Is that an important part of the picture?

#racistasfuck
One woman has a face mask on
not sure  who that tag was for?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on April 06, 2020, 08:23:44 am
Nothing about that picture says doctored, except the sign.  Is that an important part of the picture?

#racistasfuck
One woman has a face mask on
not sure  who that tag was for?

I think smackie had a bad Sunday.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2020, 03:20:28 pm
Boris has been taken to intensive care
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 06, 2020, 03:21:01 pm
Boris has been taken to intensive care
yOu HaTe To SeE iT
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 06, 2020, 05:47:29 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/gmxXntn/cheers.png)

Piers Morgan on brand
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 06, 2020, 08:04:29 pm
gonna put this here as we don't have a 'history repeats itself thread'

The Sedition Act of 1918, enacted during World War I (and the height of the 1918 flu pandemic), made it a crime to "willfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of the Government of the United States" or to "willfully urge, incite, or advocate any curtailment of the production" of the things " ...

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 06, 2020, 08:14:24 pm
It wouldn’t surprise me...once you allow Trump and Republicans to frame this as a war it just makes the curtailment of rights a cinch


We must be brainwashed to call everything a war as even liberals are using this war framing...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on April 06, 2020, 08:47:29 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/91079052_2630290287235700_7677100475044331520_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=PvuWmwFlKvgAX9DN2dQ&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=b9391c606f6ab43f7bac40478641c90e&oe=5EB24DCB)

Farmington, MN
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 08, 2020, 12:52:05 pm
Maryland is not doing well


+1158 cases in one day or about 25% increase if my math is not wrong


Troubling development for our area
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 08, 2020, 01:09:24 pm
On the other hand VA may look better but is doing a terrible job on testing


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 08, 2020, 02:29:17 pm
Maryland is not doing well


+1158 cases in one day or about 25% increase if my math is not wrong


Troubling development for our area

I don't know how much stock I put in the positive test numbers. It coulld be that  there were a bunch of previously done tests whose results are now just being made available, etc (in fact i think i read somewhere that this is what Hogan was attributing it to.)

I think they key numbers or the deaths and how full the ICU units are.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 08, 2020, 02:56:08 pm
Here is Hogan's explanation:

https://twitter.com/HellgrenWJZ/status/1247892406738927618/photo/1
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 08, 2020, 02:58:51 pm
Ok but still not good, right?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 08, 2020, 03:00:04 pm
Just stay home

https://medium.com/@jurgenthoelen/belgian-dutch-study-why-in-times-of-covid-19-you-can-not-walk-run-bike-close-to-each-other-a5df19c77d08
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 08, 2020, 03:03:12 pm
Just stay home

https://medium.com/@jurgenthoelen/belgian-dutch-study-why-in-times-of-covid-19-you-can-not-walk-run-bike-close-to-each-other-a5df19c77d08

*Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story. For more info about the coronavirus, see cdc.gov.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 08, 2020, 03:07:26 pm
Common sense
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2020, 04:15:15 pm
I do think individuals excising do cause more risk
They are breathing very heavy, so then putting more droplets in the air and more chance to spread

It is surely the job of the person Excising to create sufficient distance from others they are passing
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 08, 2020, 04:18:34 pm
The real problem, as it always is, is families spreading out and hogging the whole trail. They should walk single file and stay to the right.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 08, 2020, 05:45:07 pm
Here is Hogan's explanation:

https://twitter.com/HellgrenWJZ/status/1247892406738927618/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/HellgrenWJZ/status/1247892406738927618/photo/1)

i did a double-take, because i forgot about the context here and thought you were talking about the other hogan (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hulk-hogan-vaccine-coronavirus_n_5e8c9874c5b62459a92f9530) and his bat-shit ideas (https://www.nydailynews.com/snyde/ny-hulk-hogan-no-vaccine-find-jesus-coronavirus-20200407-dzc46l5gv5cexpg57wdkvjyqma-story.html)...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 08, 2020, 06:02:01 pm
According to Dr Birx DC the next hotspot maybe? Also Philly

I am never getting off this couch
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 08, 2020, 06:16:17 pm
According to Dr Birx DC the next hotspot maybe? Also Philly

I am never getting off this couch

She has said this more than once but never really explained why. Maybe she saw pictures of the fish market?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 08, 2020, 06:19:36 pm
MD predicted to peak on April 17 with 60 deaths on that day, and 1,094 total deaths.
VA predicted to peak on April 23 with 33 deaths on that day, and 891 total deaths.
supposedly DC peaked on April 4 with 6 deaths on that day, and a projected 84 total deaths... so no hotspot projection there.
source  (https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/07/825479416/new-yorks-coronavirus-deaths-may-level-off-soon-when-might-your-state-s-peak)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2020, 06:27:48 pm
New York Post reporter @stevennelson10 asks @realDonaldTrump about a pardon for 'Tiger King' Joe Exotic

Trump grins and says that the idea must have come from @DonaldJTrumpJr


Hate to do this...but to be fair to trump, he kind of mocked the guy for asking the question
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: WALKonBack on April 08, 2020, 09:16:37 pm
The biggest question.

Will we be the same, or the same,  after all of this.

I, predict,  the same.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 09, 2020, 06:13:49 am
RIP Lonnie (https://www.newsweek.com/rip-lonnie-twitter-coronavirus-wanda-dench-jamal-hinton-thanksgiving-1497010)
#covid'ed
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 09, 2020, 08:30:06 am
Some things will change I think...I mean it could take over a year to get a vaccine...


Human nature won’t change though so

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 09, 2020, 09:56:21 am
I think the virus would have a good time invading this elderly fat fuck. I sincerely hope he gets it, because he clearly doesn't get it.

Barr calls lockdown measures ‘draconian,’ and suggests they should be revisited next month

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/attorney-general-william-barr-fox-news-coronavirus/2020/04/09/dfda1f94-7a12-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html?itid=hp_hp-banner-main_barrlockdown-549am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on April 09, 2020, 10:03:50 am
The biggest question.

Will we be the same, or the same,  after all of this.

I, predict,  the same.

It will be interesting. I predict a 9/11 type "fear" for a while that will slowly be forgotten about. Hopefully in a few years, this will all be a blip on the radar, but time will tell.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 09, 2020, 11:47:52 am
6.6 million new initial job unemployment claims

It’s important to note that it’s been hard for many to even file

These type of numbers have never been seen although during the Great Depression numbers may have been greater as a percentage..I haven’t crunched the numbers

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 09, 2020, 11:54:30 am
6.6 million new initial job unemployment claims

It’s important to note that it’s been hard for many to even file

These type of numbers have never been seen although during the Great Depression numbers may have been greater as a percentage..I haven’t crunched the numbers
so my understanding this number is the first time applying for unemployment insurance
I don't even think they had this until FDR, so don't think you can compare numbers and so many people were undocumented then too

Love that fox is running these headlines Paid to quit? Backlash builds against unemployment benefits on ‘steroids’ (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/paid-to-quit-backlash-builds-against-unemployment-benefits-on-steroids)
it bothers these people soo much that someone who makes $7 an hour might get $600 more a month
it's insane
They don't mind corporate bailouts in the billions
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 09, 2020, 12:10:09 pm
Yes well I think you can take it as a bit of a proxy for newly unemployed
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 09, 2020, 12:16:34 pm
Yes well I think you can take it as a bit of a proxy for newly unemployed
Yeah but if you were working as a Gig worker or Laborer who got paid cash...you don't get to apply
so the numbers might be a lot higher

17 million over those three weeks...the actual unemployment rate has not been calculated yet...
The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported last week that U.S. employers shed 701,000 jobs in March, pushing the unemployment rate up to 4.4 percent, but the survey week for that figure was mid-March, before the crush of claims began. Most estimates put the current unemployment rate in the double digits or close to it.

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 09, 2020, 12:38:55 pm
You make my point for me! A shitload of unemployed people

Thank you last legs
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Vas Deferens on April 09, 2020, 01:08:18 pm
Most New York Coronavirus Cases Came From Europe, Genomes Show

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/science/new-york-coronavirus-cases-europe-genomes.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 09, 2020, 01:10:37 pm
Most New York Coronavirus Cases Came From Europe, Genomes Show

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/science/new-york-coronavirus-cases-europe-genomes.html
yeah but that goes against Trumps case that his genius move was stoping travle from china (although 40k arrived from china after the ban with shoddy checks)...
FAKE NEWS...you hate the USA
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 09, 2020, 01:13:45 pm
I read that tons of New Yorkers flew to Milan for Fashion Week February 16-24...obviously many would have come back with virus...Milan shut down very shortly after
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 09, 2020, 04:13:20 pm
Just stay home

https://medium.com/@jurgenthoelen/belgian-dutch-study-why-in-times-of-covid-19-you-can-not-walk-run-bike-close-to-each-other-a5df19c77d08

Shocking:

Bullshit article on bullshit website turns out to be bullshit.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v74az9/the-viral-study-about-runners-spreading-coronavirus-is-not-actually-a-study
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 09, 2020, 04:33:57 pm
Uh oh


Ok everyone go out on bike paths and exercise
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 09, 2020, 05:15:07 pm
Uh oh


Ok everyone go out on bike paths and exercise

Also,
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 09, 2020, 05:25:53 pm
Uh oh


Ok everyone go out on bike paths and exercise

Also,
  • Run from home
  • Run solo
  • Run at less popular times of day
  • Maintain a 6-foot distance from others
  • Don't run if you feel sick

that last point is a tough one for the missus.  she wants to run even more when she feels sick.  it's her cure-all.  some nonsense about white blood cells and immunity boosting blah blah blah.  luckily we have lots of places to run with no one around.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 09, 2020, 05:41:55 pm
What if you’re trying to escape homosexual urges because the Church of Scientology tells you it’s wrong? Should you run then? Asking for a friend.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 09, 2020, 05:52:59 pm
Just stay home

https://medium.com/@jurgenthoelen/belgian-dutch-study-why-in-times-of-covid-19-you-can-not-walk-run-bike-close-to-each-other-a5df19c77d08

Shocking:

Bullshit article on bullshit website turns out to be bullshit.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v74az9/the-viral-study-about-runners-spreading-coronavirus-is-not-actually-a-study

This was my thought today about this article when i was out on my lunchtime bike ride.

Also, two middle aged helmet haired hags were walking together about eight feet apart, one on each edge of the trail. Socially distancing from each other but definitely not using proper trail etiquette. I cut between them on my bike and one of them yelled at me "Hey buddy, tell us you're coming!" I shot back, "Stay to the right like you're supposed to." I was going too fast to hear if they had a response.

That's my trail story for the day.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 09, 2020, 06:58:23 pm
Wyoming:

239 cases
0 deaths
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 09, 2020, 07:38:10 pm
Wyoming:

239 cases
0 deaths

And how many of those are currently infected? How many have recovered?

My guess is that the terminal figures will be 24 dead and 215 recovered.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 09, 2020, 07:51:32 pm
Wow from now on you are Dr Heilung
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 09, 2020, 07:53:22 pm
/deep bow/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 09, 2020, 07:56:56 pm
/deep bow/
Next post is the big 5k. Make it count.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 09, 2020, 08:04:47 pm
Oh shit! :-\
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 09, 2020, 08:26:43 pm
Oh shit! :-\
Nah, man, that’s pretty representative of your oeuvre. Good work.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 09, 2020, 08:30:23 pm
#onbrand
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 09, 2020, 08:34:24 pm
#onbrand
It was on-brand. That was my point.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 09, 2020, 08:40:48 pm
Wyoming:

239 cases
0 deaths

And how many of those are currently infected? How many have recovered?

My guess is that the terminal figures will be 24 dead and 215 recovered.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

145 active cases so that means 94 recovered, 0 deaths so far.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on April 09, 2020, 09:25:43 pm
Just stay home

https://medium.com/@jurgenthoelen/belgian-dutch-study-why-in-times-of-covid-19-you-can-not-walk-run-bike-close-to-each-other-a5df19c77d08

Shocking:

Bullshit article on bullshit website turns out to be bullshit.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v74az9/the-viral-study-about-runners-spreading-coronavirus-is-not-actually-a-study

This was my thought today about this article when i was out on my lunchtime bike ride.

Also, two middle aged helmet haired hags were walking together about eight feet apart, one on each edge of the trail. Socially distancing from each other but definitely not using proper trail etiquette. I cut between them on my bike and one of them yelled at me "Hey buddy, tell us you're coming!" I shot back, "Stay to the right like you're supposed to." I was going too fast to hear if they had a response.

That's my trail story for the day.

Almost as awesome as the flava flave lookin muthafucka story.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 09, 2020, 09:57:44 pm
That was a good one...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on April 10, 2020, 02:18:30 pm
Dummy has coronavirus test samples stolen from her running Jeep (https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2020/4/10/21216189/coronavirus-test-samples-stolen-englewood-south-side-covid-19)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 10, 2020, 09:58:35 pm
apple & google combine forces to track you and the virus (https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/04/apple-and-google-partner-on-covid-19-contact-tracing-technology/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 11, 2020, 05:32:30 pm
Sturgill tests positive

https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/news/9356569/sturgill-simpson-covid-19-positive?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 11, 2020, 07:03:21 pm
Sturgill tests positive

https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/news/9356569/sturgill-simpson-covid-19-positive?__twitter_impression=true
This is a loss I could live with.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 11, 2020, 07:11:17 pm
Ha ha

I know you don’t mean it...

A lot of people seem to really love him
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 11, 2020, 07:39:13 pm
Sturgill tests positive

https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/news/9356569/sturgill-simpson-covid-19-positive?__twitter_impression=true
This is a loss I could live with.

That's not nice.

Maybe just some vocal cord damage, relegating him to just being a songwriter for others. J/K.

If he's been sick since at least March 13, seems like he would be past the worst of it.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 12, 2020, 10:59:00 am
Looks like more social distancing may be in our future....

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.22.20041079v1.full.pdf

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 12, 2020, 02:10:51 pm
Mayor Muriel Bowser on DC

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dc-mayor-says-coronavirus-outbreak-will-peak-in-june-in-nations-capital.amp?__twitter_impression=true


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 12, 2020, 08:11:42 pm
Difficult to believe...but no concerts til fall 2021?

https://www.bing.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-obamacare-architect-zeke-emanuel-says-u-s-should-prepare-ourselves-for-coronavirus-social-distancing-to-last-18-months.amp
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on April 13, 2020, 09:57:36 am
Difficult to believe...but no concerts til fall 2021?

https://www.bing.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-obamacare-architect-zeke-emanuel-says-u-s-should-prepare-ourselves-for-coronavirus-social-distancing-to-last-18-months.amp

2.85

Not that it hasn't before, but the stark reality of this really hit hard over the weekend (coupled with extreme over indulgence).

At what point are businesses going to shutter, people start to lose their jobs (if they haven't), lose homes, suicide rates increase? This is just fucked.

How long can a company like IMP even last?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2020, 10:13:36 am
Yeah it’s pretty nuts...sort of out of words
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2020, 10:29:11 am
I assume IMP has a contingency plan by now - they better - in case concerts are not allowed until a vaccine is developed... 

I know nothing about IMP finances but I suppose such a plan would involve furloughing most permanent staff and reaching an agreement with the Anthem landlord.

Other than that there can’t be that many fixed costs right? If they don’t put on shows they don’t spend money, right?

Note I pretty much was a failure in accounting so

What a 40th year

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 13, 2020, 11:07:00 am
Note I pretty much was a failure in accounting so
can confirm
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2020, 11:10:58 am
You know how to hit a guy when he’s down
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 13, 2020, 11:40:31 am
You know how to hit a guy when he’s down
yep, seems to be the only thing I'm good at

Also, can confirm....Hutch isn't much of a landscaper

but ask him about privatizing Nationalized airports...and he might be your man
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2020, 11:43:55 am
Hey now I mowed the lawn this weekend...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 13, 2020, 11:45:42 am
Hey now I mowed the lawn this weekend...
I'll be by for a QC inspection later today

when was the last time you sharpened the blade (please turn it off before inspecting)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2020, 11:53:03 am
Huh?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2020, 11:54:46 am
Deaths seem to be trending down finally

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 13, 2020, 12:12:12 pm
Anybody else have to hear about how the virus is man-made using funding from George Soros, the Rothchild's, the Rockefeller's, and Bill Gates every time they talk to their parents?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/us/coronavirus-made-in-lab-poll-trnd/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2020, 12:16:07 pm
Ughhh ...nooooo


What is it with people and Bill Gates or Soros?

I admire you Space...if anyone in my family said anything like that I just wouldn’t call them again
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 13, 2020, 12:49:38 pm
space....what about 5G...isn't that the cause!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 13, 2020, 12:58:09 pm
Ughhh ...nooooo


What is it with people and Bill Gates or Soros?

I admire you Space...if anyone in my family said anything like that I just wouldn’t call them again

I just tell her I love her, stay isolated, nice talking to her, I but I gotta go now. The sad and ironic thing was my mom had a place out on the country in isolation and sold it a few months ago so she could go live in a senior center, where she could meet people and socialize more.

The person I feel really bad for is my brother, who lives in the same town with her. And got laid off once this happened. And who has a wife who apparently believes the same BS my mom does (he doesn't.)

No talk of G5 yet, I don't let the conversation get that far.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 13, 2020, 01:06:23 pm
Brazil ends chloroquine study early after patients suffer deadly heart complications.

Shocking.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2020, 01:09:56 pm
“But what do you have to lose?”
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2020, 01:19:01 pm
This is just unbelievable


If we hadn’t shut down we would have lost millions of people

https://mobile.twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1249676952295944193
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 13, 2020, 02:08:23 pm
Deaths seem to be trending down finally



It always looks like that on Mondays.  Reporting slows down over the weekend.  Plus, deaths trail existing cases by 10-20 days, and cases haven't really dropped yet.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2020, 02:11:28 pm
Well we shall see
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 13, 2020, 02:13:58 pm
Deaths seem to be trending down finally



It always looks like that on Mondays.  Reporting slows down over the weekend.  Plus, deaths trail existing cases by 10-20 days, and cases haven't really dropped yet.

2000+ on Friday
1800+ on Saturday
1500+ on Sunday

Are you saying reporting of deaths slows on weekends or reporting of new cases?

Number of new cases has been steadily around 30K for the past seven days (ranging from 25 K to 35K). I think that's much more a function of number of people being tested than number of people actually sick.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 13, 2020, 02:47:28 pm
This model says the US deaths peaked on Friday. We'll see.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

https://covid19.healthdata.org/italy

It also says Italy was supposed to be at 300+,200+ and 200+ the past three days, when in reality they've been 600+, 400+ and 500+ (so far today). So the steep drop off that they were predicting from Italy is not happening. They're even exceeding the max of the predicted range.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2020, 03:02:26 pm
Obviously if so many people stay home we flatten the curve but the issue is that during this time the federal government was supposed to be getting its act together so that we can prevent more people from getting sick (ramping up testing, tracing, policies on isolating people) and when in the future more people get sick we are not overwhelmed ...also develop a national strategy for reopening and even coordinate things on a global scale....this was why we have been doing all this mitigation

Does anyone in their right minds think this has and is happening?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 13, 2020, 03:10:46 pm
Obviously if so many people stay home we flatten the curve but the issue is that during this time the federal government was supposed to be getting its act together so that we can prevent more people from getting sick (ramping up testing, tracing, policies on isolating people) and when in the future more people get sick we are not overwhelmed ...also develop a national strategy for reopening and even coordinate things on a global scale....this was why we have been doing all this mitigation

Does anyone in their right minds think this has and is happening?

They haven't asked me to work on anything of that nature, so I have my doubts.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 13, 2020, 03:13:04 pm
The answer is no yet there are a lot of people who think the administration is doing a wonderful job.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 13, 2020, 03:24:05 pm
Number of new cases has been steadily around 30K for the past seven days (ranging from 25 K to 35K). I think that's much more a function of number of people being tested than number of people actually sick.

bingo.  and we aren't testing as much as we should be.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 13, 2020, 03:27:32 pm
The answer is no yet there are a lot of people who think the administration is doing a wonderful job.

a lot of people are thinking that, A LOT.  you wouldn't believe the number of people who think this administration is doing the best job possible, the best in the history of this country.  in fact, i like to use a word  - it's just a word, but a special word - called "unprecedented."  such a beautiful, powerful word, and i think i'm the first - maybe i'm the first, probably, i don't know - the first to use this word to describe our amazing response.  just tremendous.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 13, 2020, 03:38:40 pm
A LOT think this...which is sad

23% think it was made in a lab...where are they getting their information from
Nearly 30% in the US believe a coronavirus theory that's almost certainly not true (https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/us/coronavirus-made-in-lab-poll-trnd/index.html)

Take the conspiracy that 5G networks are somehow linked to the coronavirus. It started as a fringe theory among New Agers and QAnon followers. Soon, it ended up on celebrities' Instagram accounts, and Twitter published at least two "moments" debunking it.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVgsWcrWoAAMlpF?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on April 14, 2020, 12:18:16 pm
Tax change in coronavirus package overwhelmingly benefits millionaires, congressional body finds (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/14/coronavirus-law-congress-tax-change/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: K8teebug on April 14, 2020, 01:12:12 pm
It's so hard to read all this bullshit. I hate being informed sometimes.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 14, 2020, 01:50:35 pm
Tax change in coronavirus package overwhelmingly benefits millionaires, congressional body finds (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/14/coronavirus-law-congress-tax-change/)

The vote on this was 96-0. Was Bernie absent or did he vote YES?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 14, 2020, 02:00:38 pm
Tax change in coronavirus package overwhelmingly benefits millionaires, congressional body finds (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/14/coronavirus-law-congress-tax-change/)

The vote on this was 96-0. Was Bernie absent or did he vote YES?

tax change was a minor part of the package.  was someone supposed to sink the whole thing because of one bad section? 
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 14, 2020, 02:07:50 pm
tax change was a minor part of the package.  was someone supposed to sink the whole thing because of one bad section? 
Have you met Bernie Sanders!?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 14, 2020, 03:01:08 pm
^ lol
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 14, 2020, 03:29:11 pm
Wyoming had their first death. So now they're at 275 cases with one death.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on April 14, 2020, 05:31:03 pm
Virginia Pastor Who Snubbed Social Distancing Order Dies After Contracting Virus (https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/atheism-secularism/virginia-pastor-who-snubbed-social-distancing-order-dies-after-contracting-virus-5jLUeU8FUECFcqz8ak6LtA/?utm_source=SP&utm_medium=SP&utm_campaign=SP&utm_term=SP&utm_content=SP&fbclid=IwAR1zCbr_ILhW5AllfgLbR029CY3Nb--uezrlS04pmL6FXEtaVkDXWF_AnxM)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 14, 2020, 05:37:40 pm
Virginia Pastor Who Snubbed Social Distancing Order Dies After Contracting Virus (https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/atheism-secularism/virginia-pastor-who-snubbed-social-distancing-order-dies-after-contracting-virus-5jLUeU8FUECFcqz8ak6LtA/?utm_source=SP&utm_medium=SP&utm_campaign=SP&utm_term=SP&utm_content=SP&fbclid=IwAR1zCbr_ILhW5AllfgLbR029CY3Nb--uezrlS04pmL6FXEtaVkDXWF_AnxM)
You hate to see it.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 14, 2020, 05:52:26 pm
Can we please just make Gavin Newsom the president?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 14, 2020, 05:53:11 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUnqMuJXsAMJB1a?format=jpg&name=small)

You beat me to it. 1fuckingmillion. closing in on 250k in US.
Only 12 days ago and we're about to break 2 mill...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 14, 2020, 05:57:32 pm
The worse though is at least 2214 deaths documented from Covid19 today...a new peak

Heilung was right

The thing that gets me is the utter indifference of many...the resignation to it...the acceptance that it had to happen

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 14, 2020, 06:05:49 pm
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-04-14/nyc-adds-3-700-to-death-toll-to-count-victims-not-hospitalized?__twitter_impression=true


The federal government did nothing to help NY

Just shameful
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 14, 2020, 06:09:35 pm
ok this is good

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVkqUXPX0AcsXd-?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 14, 2020, 06:11:02 pm
Very meh
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 14, 2020, 07:24:08 pm
The worse though is at least 2214 deaths documented from Covid19 today...a new peak

Heilung was right

The thing that gets me is the utter indifference of many...the resignation to it...the acceptance that it had to happen

Pre-COVID19 7700+ Americans died every day. I don't think a one day peak of 2200+, with a vast majority of them being old people (who we devalue in this country anyway) is really going to effect the emotions of many. Until someone you know dies.

I mean, every day for the past month *i* make a big deal of it, and even today my 12 year old says "Why are people making such a big deal of it? Many more people die of cancer or heart disease?"
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 14, 2020, 07:49:17 pm
You have got to be kidding me...2022?!? 2024??

I won’t make it


https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/health/social-distancing-research-coronavirus-2022-trnd/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 14, 2020, 07:52:39 pm
Virginia Pastor Who Snubbed Social Distancing Order Dies After Contracting Virus (https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/atheism-secularism/virginia-pastor-who-snubbed-social-distancing-order-dies-after-contracting-virus-5jLUeU8FUECFcqz8ak6LtA/?utm_source=SP&utm_medium=SP&utm_campaign=SP&utm_term=SP&utm_content=SP&fbclid=IwAR1zCbr_ILhW5AllfgLbR029CY3Nb--uezrlS04pmL6FXEtaVkDXWF_AnxM)
You hate to see it.

<sheepish> am i a bad person if i don't hate it? </sheep>
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 14, 2020, 07:54:13 pm
'Heartbreaking Statistic': Thanks to Pandemic, Last Month Was First March Since 2002 Without a US School Shooting (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/13/heartbreaking-statistic-thanks-pandemic-last-month-was-first-march-2002-without-us)
"All it took was a pandemic and closing all the schools."


(i can't help but arrive at the conclusion that shootings are a feature, not a bug, of schools in this country...  :'( )
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 14, 2020, 08:20:27 pm
You have got to be kidding me...2022?!? 2024??

I won’t make it


https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/health/social-distancing-research-coronavirus-2022-trnd/index.html

I don't think people will accept that.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 14, 2020, 08:28:09 pm
Today's DC COVID-19 deaths. Sucks to be a male. Wonder if any of them were at the fish market?

WASHINGTON, DC — The D.C. Department of Health confirmed 15 new deaths Tuesday related to the coronavirus, also known as COVID-19, bringing the total number of District deaths caused by the virus to 67. D.C. Health also confirmed 103 new positive coronavirus cases, which brings the District's overall positive case total to 2,058.

The new deaths were described as:

31-year-old male
37-year-old male
51-year-old male
51-year-old male
58-year-old male
62-year-old male
67-year-old male
77-year-old male
79-year-old male
81-year-old female
81-year-old female
82-year-old male
83-year-old female
87-year-old female
93-year-old female.

https://patch.com/district-columbia/washingtondc/19-new-coronavirus-deaths-dc-positive-cases-now-exceed-2-000
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 14, 2020, 08:49:50 pm
We’re outdoing each other Space with the good news
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2020, 01:25:47 am
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/93407160_2619191631516089_2820790531234201600_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_oc=AQkb0cYKs299nSkLOI4gAEocwvi6AzoOCbRlzsAEwu_LwXxnW_QjN3O27Nq2ZZBawcQ&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=e9ec05147ad665f081816bde034b3691&oe=5EBD2060)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2020, 08:03:37 am
Jules hasn't mentioned BMI since Obama was president....is there a connection?


Nathan Taylor @ntaylor963
"When assessing the risk of various nations is that 3% of Japanese are obese, while 40% of Americans are obese."

BMI < 30: reference risk
BMI 30-40: 4x risk
BMI > 40: 6x risk
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2020, 08:40:26 am
Phewww. I'm overweight, but not obese.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2020, 08:57:46 am
Are Italians obese? I thought they ate the healthy Mediterranean diet?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2020, 09:04:51 am
these are some shocking stats
From 1999–2000 through 2017–2018, the prevalence of obesity increased from 30.5% to 42.4%,
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2020, 09:17:34 am
Are Italians obese? I thought they ate the healthy Mediterranean diet?

Cigarettes add to your BMI as well.

One time the year after my dad died, I took my mom to Italy. It was her first time out of the country. We were at a street market in Florence, and she was dickering with a local over the price of a scarf. She offered him about half the price he was charging.

He replied, "Do you know how much I pay for your American cigarettes?"

And she retorted, "Well then kweeeeee-ut."

I don't think she got the scarf.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2020, 09:48:06 am
Are Italians obese? I thought they ate the healthy Mediterranean diet?

Italy boasts one of the lowest adulthood obesity rates in Europe [approximately 10% of the population]

not sure how smoking can add to BMI...where does smoke increase mass in your body...tumor cells in your lungs don't get calculated
now smoking and covid are bad bedfellows since it's a pulmonary disease

but extra credit awarded for very #onbrand post that included a wonderfully crafted vignette that had snark, but a touch of sentimentality
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2020, 09:50:18 am
Well the first day of online school is cancelled because kids started spamming the site with porn and racist garbage and dick pics in their avatars. What a great country we live in. Instead of making the day up tomorrow (they have half their classes on Wed and half on Fri, so one 45 min session per week), they're just skipping it and starting Friday.

I attended an online seminar (from a third party) a couple weeks ago for work where the same kind of thing happened.

My employer banned the use of Zoom for these reasons (school not using Zoom, though the online seminar was.)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2020, 09:52:16 am
Exactly right Sidehatch

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2020, 09:54:14 am
Are Italians obese? I thought they ate the healthy Mediterranean diet?

Italy boasts one of the lowest adulthood obesity rates in Europe [approximately 10% of the population]

not sure how smoking can add to BMI...where does smoke increase mass in your body...tumor cells in your lungs don't get calculated
now smoking and covid are bad bedfellows since it's a pulmonary disease

I was just joking. The real story:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6042712/

Smokers tend to weigh less than never smokers, while successful quitting leads to an increase in body weight. Because smokers and non-smokers may differ in genetic and environmental family background, we analysed data from twin pairs in which the co-twins differed by their smoking behaviour to evaluate if the association between smoking and body mass index (BMI) remains after controlling for family background.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 15, 2020, 10:38:34 am
Maryland hits 10,000 cases of COVID-19
Montgomery County just shy of 2,000
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2020, 11:30:39 am
Exactly right Sidehatch
Might get this post framed ;)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2020, 12:59:14 pm
recap of the trump administration's response to the pandemic: incompetence, malice, profiteering & price-gouging   
https://twitter.com/RomancingNope/status/1247189603607629825
FB version (same content) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2661827024141148&set=pcb.2661827960807721&type=3&theater
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2020, 01:12:01 pm
Exactly right Sidehatch
Might get this post framed ;)


I know! I felt weird posting it...but decided “what the heck...”
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2020, 01:22:50 pm
Jules, here is your chance
https://www.fanatics.com/bieber-sings-one-less-lonely-girl-at-your-house/p-14643216580026+z-9567-484348021
get this guy to sing at your house
(https://fanatics.frgimages.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productimages/_3895000/altimages/ff_3895304-d9d00db50f7df4f16ca0alt1_full.jpg&w=900)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2020, 01:44:40 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVkqUXPX0AcsXd-?format=jpg&name=small)

apparently Mayor Bowser thought all the complaining was worthy of another month
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/492928-dc-extends-stay-at-home-order-through-may-15
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 15, 2020, 02:50:24 pm
a bunch of really bright ones decided it was ok to clog the streets of Lansing, MI to protest the stay at home Order there...  even managed to block an ambulance.. funny how the right to freely assemble only applies to conservatives
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 15, 2020, 03:07:10 pm
a bunch of really bright ones decided it was ok to clog the streets of Lansing, MI to protest the stay at home Order there...  even managed to block an ambulance.. funny how the right to freely assemble only applies to conservatives
That's Michigan State for ya.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2020, 03:07:36 pm
a bunch of really bright ones decided it was ok to clog the streets of Lansing, MI to protest the stay at home Order there...  even managed to block an ambulance.. funny how the right to freely assemble only applies to conservatives

How do you know they were conservatives?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2020, 03:11:00 pm
VA stay at home til May 8
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2020, 03:26:15 pm
Well the first day of online school is cancelled because kids started spamming the site with porn and racist garbage and dick pics in their avatars. What a great country we live in. Instead of making the day up tomorrow (they have half their classes on Wed and half on Fri, so one 45 min session per week), they're just skipping it and starting Friday.
this is how it was framed on WTOP
Fairfax County Public Schools canceled all teacher-led instruction for the rest of the day amid widespread technical issues preventing students from accessing distance learning tools.
I liked your version better
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2020, 03:33:17 pm
a bunch of really bright ones decided it was ok to clog the streets of Lansing, MI to protest the stay at home Order there...  even managed to block an ambulance.. funny how the right to freely assemble only applies to conservatives

How do you know they were conservatives?
Wes Pytlowany@wpytlowany
#ImpeachWhitmer #Gridlock Proud to stand with patriots against @GovWhitmer  today!

lisastark35@lisastark351
A conservative group made up of entitled white men and their wives who can’t think for themselves is headed to our capitol to protest our governor's stay at home orders.

lots of Red hats and trump flags and calling themselves patriots (while blocking ambulances)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2020, 03:38:35 pm
VA stay at home til May 8

How does that order differ than the one that goes through June 10?

https://www.governor.virginia.gov/newsroom/all-releases/2020/march/headline-855702-en.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2020, 03:45:24 pm
They run concurrently


To be in good standing in VA you must clone yourself and both you and clone stay home til May 8... from May 9 to June 9 your clone can go out while you comply with stay at home...from June 10 on both can go out...unless there is extension..hope this makes sense...it’s a bit confusing
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2020, 04:22:39 pm
Looks like we're going to set the death record for the second straight day. What's with all this talk about things leveling off? The UWash models said we were supposed to peak five days ago. Then it changed to Monday. Now Tues and Wed and it's hitting new highs when it looked like we'd be declining.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2020, 04:33:46 pm
I feel like testing has really stalled

So are models accurate if they input lower new case numbers?

I assume so but have a nagging doubt...but we also have new hospital admissions data so it seems like just that deaths are a lagging indicator...small comfort to the dead
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2020, 04:35:29 pm
I've a friend who is the CIO of a NYSE listed tech firm....this is how he showed up to his Zoom meeting this morning

(https://scontent.fewr1-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/93422684_10222025062197212_4416908783402352640_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=RKMGxqKPXtEAX9Kza_Z&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-5.fna&_nc_tp=7&oh=e1949f3186836268b7c86fbef1f61689&oe=5EBC3B56)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 15, 2020, 04:51:04 pm
I've a friend who is the CIO of a NYSE listed tech firm
Brag.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2020, 04:55:41 pm
Sounds like we're never going back to the office.

https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2020/04/northern-va-hospitals-could-be-overwhelmed-by-late-summer-latest-state-models-project/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 15, 2020, 04:58:38 pm
Sounds like we're never going back to the office.
Some of us never stopped going to the office.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2020, 05:12:04 pm
Brag
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2020, 05:20:24 pm
Looks like we're going to set the death record for the second straight day. What's with all this talk about things leveling off? The UWash models said we were supposed to peak five days ago. Then it changed to Monday. Now Tues and Wed and it's hitting new highs when it looked like we'd be declining.

aww c'mon Space, you're a stats guy - you know that when you're developing a model on the fly for a novel situation and with incomplete data, the model's predictions are going to change every time you insert new data and/or revise the old data.  consider how much we don't know: infection rates (due to lack of testing), mortality rate, intensity of the outbreak (aka R0), distribution of immunity (antibodies), whether antibodies are even relevant with this disease, etc...  with so many squishy unknowns and tenuous assumptions, any wonder that the models' outputs change regularly?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2020, 05:28:33 pm
a bunch of really bright ones decided it was ok to clog the streets of Lansing, MI to protest the stay at home Order there...  even managed to block an ambulance.. funny how the right to freely assemble only applies to conservatives

How do you know they were conservatives?
Wes Pytlowany@wpytlowany
#ImpeachWhitmer #Gridlock Proud to stand with patriots against @GovWhitmer  today!

lisastark35@lisastark351
A conservative group made up of entitled white men and their wives who can’t think for themselves is headed to our capitol to protest our governor's stay at home orders.

lots of Red hats and trump flags and calling themselves patriots (while blocking ambulances)

anecdotal, but i have an FB acquaintance who is a MI conservative and based on his posts and his like-minded friends this is definitely a highly partisan conservative movement.  they're protesting the fact that a Dem in power as much as the lock-down.  they just needed an excuse.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2020, 05:32:29 pm
a bunch of really bright ones decided it was ok to clog the streets of Lansing, MI to protest the stay at home Order there...  even managed to block an ambulance.. funny how the right to freely assemble only applies to conservatives

How do you know they were conservatives?
Wes Pytlowany@wpytlowany
#ImpeachWhitmer #Gridlock Proud to stand with patriots against @GovWhitmer  today!

lisastark35@lisastark351
A conservative group made up of entitled white men and their wives who can’t think for themselves is headed to our capitol to protest our governor's stay at home orders.

lots of Red hats and trump flags and calling themselves patriots (while blocking ambulances)

anecdotal, but i have an FB acquaintance who is a MI conservative and based on his posts and his like-minded friends this is definitely a highly partisan conservative movement.  they're protesting the fact that a Dem in power as much as the lock-down.  they just needed an excuse.

I was oblivious to the story when I posted my question but after reading a bit about it, the answer was obvious.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2020, 08:44:34 pm
Well the first day of online school is cancelled because kids started spamming the site with porn and racist garbage and dick pics in their avatars. What a great country we live in. Instead of making the day up tomorrow (they have half their classes on Wed and half on Fri, so one 45 min session per week), they're just skipping it and starting Friday.
this is how it was framed on WTOP
Fairfax County Public Schools canceled all teacher-led instruction for the rest of the day amid widespread technical issues preventing students from accessing distance learning tools.
I liked your version better

School cancelled rest of week because of dick pics.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2020, 10:17:06 pm
I have to admit I am losing faith

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-stimulus-checks-millionaires-wealthy-tax-break-loophole-a9466476.html?fbclid=IwAR1A41yV2Qb9UoDbrLTLBQqoc58BKOtCECiotCihlagsGs8eo8Q52K2dNYM
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 16, 2020, 10:30:23 am
man...what is May going to look like if we are at 22Mil unemployeed right now
More than 5 million Americans filed for unemployment benefits last week, bringing the total in the month since the coronavirus pandemic throttled the U.S. economy to 22 million and effectively erasing a decade worth of job creation.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 16, 2020, 10:49:46 am
Well at least it’s slowing

A lot of this is temporary unemployment

The concern is how to reopen parts of economy given Trump is doing nothing like he is supposed to be

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 16, 2020, 11:13:41 am
Ok we are at nearly 33,000 based on a change made in recording deaths

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/us-data/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 16, 2020, 11:32:03 am
Taking the misses for a drive up test at 1:30.  :o
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on April 16, 2020, 11:47:43 am
NYC closes outdoor pools for the summer
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on April 16, 2020, 11:53:35 am
NYC closes outdoor pools for the summer

That is going to be the dagger when our neighborhood pool closes. Family meltdown imminent.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 16, 2020, 12:05:11 pm
NYC closes outdoor pools for the summer

That is going to be the dagger when our neighborhood pool closes. Family meltdown imminent.
I’m stunned it’s open now, to be honest.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 16, 2020, 12:11:30 pm
NYC closes outdoor pools for the summer

That is going to be the dagger when our neighborhood pool closes. Family meltdown imminent.
I’m stunned it’s open now, to be honest.
unless it's indoors or private (and even then) most don't open until mem day
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 16, 2020, 12:17:18 pm
Hey no pool no worries about showing off your Corona belly
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 16, 2020, 12:35:37 pm
NYC closes outdoor pools for the summer

That is going to be the dagger when our neighborhood pool closes. Family meltdown imminent.
I’m stunned it’s open now, to be honest.
unless it's indoors or private (and even then) most don't open until mem day
Oh well that’s a good point. Sorry, when I hear pool, I just assumed we are talking about a temperature controlled saltwater pool.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2020, 12:37:57 pm
Taking the misses for a drive up test at 1:30.  :o

 :-\   hope everything turns out ok.  thoughts and meditations.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2020, 12:40:09 pm
so much for "this isn't any worse than the seasonal flu"...

Covid-19 is rapidly becoming America’s leading cause of death (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/04/16/coronavirus-leading-cause-death/)
 
(https://palomaimages.washingtonpost.com/pr2/cacffdc2104c07dbe1323f83cce3f977-L6YBXIHHQRAXXD5KT6ZNWSYK2M-600-0-70-8.jpg)

(pretty sure this isn't what they meant by "help us beat cancer"...)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 16, 2020, 12:47:42 pm
Taking the misses for a drive up test at 1:30.  :o

 :-\   hope everything turns out ok.  thoughts and meditations.
Yeah. She’s developed literally every symptom in the last 24 hours. Either COVID or she sure picked a horrible time to get a flu.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 16, 2020, 12:50:06 pm
Bummer..good luck...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 16, 2020, 01:04:11 pm
Ugh, that sucks. Good luck.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2020, 01:11:33 pm
Taking the misses for a drive up test at 1:30.  :o

 :-\   hope everything turns out ok.  thoughts and meditations.
Yeah. She’s developed literally every symptom in the last 24 hours. Either COVID or she sure picked a horrible time to get a flu.

my missus wen through the same thing - sudden onset of all the symptoms, not too badly though.  test came back negative.  took 5 days, but the time the results came back my wife was feeling much better, so she was hoping that the test would come back positive - implying that she now had immunity.  alas, the covid-19 test was negative - not something you hear every day...

moral of the story: stay calm, stay positive.  there is a very good chance she doesn't have it.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on April 16, 2020, 01:13:34 pm
Sorry jules... have you guys been exposed?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 16, 2020, 01:30:21 pm
Sorry jules... have you guys been exposed?
I’m a healthcare exec who has continued to go into the office part time. We staff nurses in some places with COVID positive patients (including the place with 50+ deaths you’ve seen in the news - Lexington Court).

I don’t personally interact with the RNs, but they have come into offices to pick up PPE. If she has it, I’m guessing I do to (she really hasn’t left the house except to go for a walk) and am just asymptomatic.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 16, 2020, 01:31:21 pm
Taking the misses for a drive up test at 1:30.  :o

 :-\   hope everything turns out ok.  thoughts and meditations.
Yeah. She’s developed literally every symptom in the last 24 hours. Either COVID or she sure picked a horrible time to get a flu.

my missus wen through the same thing - sudden onset of all the symptoms, not too badly though.  test came back negative.  took 5 days, but the time the results came back my wife was feeling much better, so she was hoping that the test would come back positive - implying that she now had immunity.  alas, the covid-19 test was negative - not something you hear every day...

moral of the story: stay calm, stay positive.  there is a very good chance she doesn't have it.
Yeah, part of me hopes we both have it since hospitals are not currently slammed. Let’s get it out of the way. She is solid fucking miserable though. This does not look fun.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2020, 01:32:05 pm
in hopes of lifting the mood here a bit: FUNNIEST covid-related thing i've seen

ScrubHub (https://scrubhub.tv/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on April 16, 2020, 01:51:25 pm
That weekend I was all pissy - same thing.  Chest pains, slight fever, slept 19 straight hours, thought for sure it was The VID. 

Nope.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 16, 2020, 01:52:26 pm
Supposedly there is a high false negative rate
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 16, 2020, 01:59:13 pm
Supposedly there is a high false negative rate

I was going to say this. Looks like only 20% of US tests have been positive. That lots of true negatives (Trump, Pence,people with other similar illneses etc) and/or lots of false negatives.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 16, 2020, 02:47:19 pm
That lots of true negatives (Trump, Pence,people with other similar illneses etc) and/or lots of false negatives.

ya don't say? ;D
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on April 16, 2020, 02:55:11 pm
Taking the misses for a drive up test at 1:30.  :o

 :-\   hope everything turns out ok.  thoughts and meditations.
Yeah. She’s developed literally every symptom in the last 24 hours. Either COVID or she sure picked a horrible time to get a flu.

my missus wen through the same thing - sudden onset of all the symptoms, not too badly though.  test came back negative.  took 5 days, but the time the results came back my wife was feeling much better, so she was hoping that the test would come back positive - implying that she now had immunity.  alas, the covid-19 test was negative - not something you hear every day...

moral of the story: stay calm, stay positive.  there is a very good chance she doesn't have it.
Yeah, part of me hopes we both have it since hospitals are not currently slammed. Let’s get it out of the way. She is solid fucking miserable though. This does not look fun.

Jeez, I hope alll goes as well as can Julian.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 16, 2020, 06:57:55 pm
Promising drug to treat covid

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/16/sp-500-etf-jumps-2percent-after-hours-on-report-gilead-drug-showing-effectiveness-treating-coronavirus.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 17, 2020, 03:43:37 am
consider how much we don't know: infection rates (due to lack of testing), mortality rate, intensity of the outbreak (aka R0), distribution of immunity (antibodies), whether antibodies are even relevant with this disease, etc...  with so many squishy unknowns and tenuous assumptions, any wonder that the models' outputs change regularly?

well this potentially throws everything out the window with regards to our understanding of the disease:

CDC reviewing ‘stunning’ universal testing results from Boston homeless shelter (https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/04/15/boston-homeless-population-coronavirus-asymptomatic-universal-testing): "Of the 397 people tested, 146 people tested positive. Not a single one had any symptoms."

either we need to reassess how much we know about covid-19, or we need a new test.

(edit: updated link)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on April 17, 2020, 09:31:13 am
consider how much we don't know: infection rates (due to lack of testing), mortality rate, intensity of the outbreak (aka R0), distribution of immunity (antibodies), whether antibodies are even relevant with this disease, etc...  with so many squishy unknowns and tenuous assumptions, any wonder that the models' outputs change regularly?

well this potentially throws everything out the window with regards to our understanding of the disease:

CDC reviewing ‘stunning’ universal testing results from Boston homeless shelter (https://forum.930.com/Of the 397 people tested, 146 people tested positive. Not a single one had any symptoms.): "Of the 397 people tested, 146 people tested positive. Not a single one had any symptoms."


either we need to reassess how much we know about covid-19, or we need a new test.


your link died. all hail the new link:     https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/04/15/boston-homeless-population-coronavirus-asymptomatic-universal-testing          (https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/04/15/boston-homeless-population-coronavirus-asymptomatic-universal-testing)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 17, 2020, 09:44:49 am
your link died.
#covid-ed
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 17, 2020, 10:01:22 am
this is so a few weeks ago, but I just found out about this
There are close to 100k employees/contractors (with a number being us citizens) stuck aboard these cruise ships
https://abcnews.go.com/US/90000-cruise-ship-crew-members-stuck-sea-amid/story?id=70057005

My disgust for the industry (and honestly the people who use these) is pretty high.
But I do feel for these employees

Saw this and just kinda blew me away.
I have a dancer friend that works on a Royal Caribbean ship. He has been stuck on the ship for 64 days. They won’t let crew members off. The U.S. Consulate can’t help. They denied entry in Shangai, South Korea, Manila, Hong Kong. Everyone is healthy. Company severed his contract.

On a side note....a great Twilight Zone episode would be
Julian, on a dare from some internet forum, get's passage on the Frank Turner 3 day cruise...then Covid-19 happens and he's stuck there for 6 months...someone finish this story
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 17, 2020, 10:49:49 am
Julian, on a dare from some internet forum, get's passage on the Frank Turner 3 day cruise...then Covid-19 happens and he's stuck there for 6 months...someone finish this story
Frank plays the same 5 songs every night to entertain the trapped guests and spends 12 hours a day instagramming and livejournalling about what a dynamic, bold and brave leader he is as a result during this time of crisis.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on April 17, 2020, 10:54:38 am
Julian, on a dare from some internet forum, get's passage on the Frank Turner 3 day cruise...then Covid-19 happens and he's stuck there for 6 months...someone finish this story
Frank plays the same 5 songs every night to entertain the trapped guests and spends 12 hours a day instagramming and livejournalling about what a dynamic, bold and brave leader he is as a result during this time of crisis.

And by day 10, Jules is a convert, and self-tattoos FTHC on each of his knuckles using only his hairdye and a heated lobster antennae. Day 11, Jules sings "Just give me one fine day of plain sailing weather and I can fuck up anything, anything." so many times in a row that the rest of the passengers murder him and feast on his flesh, leaving aside only the knuckles.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on April 17, 2020, 11:11:09 am
Julian, on a dare from some internet forum, get's passage on the Frank Turner 3 day cruise...then Covid-19 happens and he's stuck there for 6 months...someone finish this story
Frank plays the same 5 songs every night to entertain the trapped guests and spends 12 hours a day instagramming and livejournalling about what a dynamic, bold and brave leader he is as a result during this time of crisis.

And by day 10, Jules is a convert, and self-tattoos FTHC on each of his knuckles using only his hairdye and a heated lobster antennae. Day 11, Jules sings "Just give me one fine day of plain sailing weather and I can fuck up anything, anything." so many times in a row that the rest of the passengers murder him and feast on his flesh, leaving aside only the knuckles.


LoL
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 17, 2020, 11:13:57 am
using only his hairdye
Mine of Frank's?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on April 17, 2020, 11:20:34 am
using only his hairdye
Mine of Frank's?

So you admit it!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 17, 2020, 11:34:01 am
using only his hairdye
Mine of Frank's?

So you admit it!
(https://i.imgur.com/71CKF2p.png)
(https://frinkiac.com/video/S07E05/ISOS8e6Ox5-Uz7GomHJ7pp2N0Mo=.gif)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 17, 2020, 04:45:02 pm
...in which Heilung demonstrates appropriate social distancing:

https://youtu.be/64CACoHNBEI

Is that a potato they're eating at the beginning?  I think its a potato!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 17, 2020, 05:35:43 pm
...in which Heilung demonstrates appropriate social distancing:

https://youtu.be/64CACoHNBEI

how fucking disappointing.  the video is with heilung the band, not heilung the boardee.  complete waste of time.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 17, 2020, 07:27:25 pm
Georgia Sen. Kelly Loeffler's latest attempt to deflect attention from her seven-figure stock sell-off just a month before the stock market collapsed because of impacts from the coronavirus may be her most creative yet. In short: It's socialism -- or something.

Here's what the Georgia Republican senator said on Fox News Friday:

"This was a political attack designed to take away from the issue at hand. And to use this outbreak to play politics. We have addressed this and taken extraordinary measures to make sure that we can't be attacked for our success. This gets at the very heart of why I came to Washington, to defend free enterprise, to defend capitalism. This is a socialist attack. We have taken extraordinary measures, and I am focused solely on working for Georgians. I have been doing that seven days a week, around the clock. And it's my honor to be here and serve, and that's why I stepped out of the private sector."

Continued: Kelly Loeffler just blamed socialism for her coronavirus stock sell-off (https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/politics/kelly-loeffler-stock-coronavirus/index.html)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 17, 2020, 08:17:37 pm
Yeah, she knows she's in a shitload of trouble.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 17, 2020, 08:23:50 pm
Asshat on Faux News claims some of the offensive symbolism at the Michigan protest were displayed ironically...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 17, 2020, 11:42:26 pm
were displayed ironically...
How does one display the confederate flag ironically ?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 17, 2020, 11:47:08 pm
were displayed ironically...
How does one display the confederate flag ironically ?
Maybe like an afterhours, African-American NASA employees bar trivia team. They could rock a little stars and bars for reasons none of us think they me a.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on April 18, 2020, 05:11:08 am
Hey...it's is every rich Americans right to cheat and/or take advantage of the system to line their pockets, and by the grace and blessing of God (the real one), she is going to fight for that right to (Republican) party.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on April 18, 2020, 10:17:17 am
Trump’s ‘LIBERATE MICHIGAN!’ tweets incite insurrection. That’s illegal. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/04/17/liberate-michigan-trump-constitution/)

Lock him up!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 18, 2020, 10:21:19 am
He is trying to get us to a civil war

Slowly but surely we are getting there
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2020, 10:22:40 am
were displayed ironically...
How does one display the confederate flag ironically ?
This is ironic... right?
Stephen moore
“I call these people the modern-day Rosa Parks — they are protesting against injustice and a loss of liberties.”
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on April 18, 2020, 02:33:56 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/93519811_10219755620072765_6186189461131362304_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=9VDougYgH0QAX-r9BE6&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=bdd15c6efc858c674b21e0e3d1e19dea&oe=5EC2C1FA)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 18, 2020, 08:15:56 pm
Well the first day of online school is cancelled because kids started spamming the site with porn and racist garbage and dick pics in their avatars. What a great country we live in. Instead of making the day up tomorrow (they have half their classes on Wed and half on Fri, so one 45 min session per week), they're just skipping it and starting Friday.
this is how it was framed on WTOP
Fairfax County Public Schools canceled all teacher-led instruction for the rest of the day amid widespread technical issues preventing students from accessing distance learning tools.
I liked your version better


For many in Fairfax, the first day of distance learning quickly descended into chaos.
One AP Environmental Science class group chat filled with messages such as, “F--- you, yiu smell like gay.” Users joined a German class populated with usernames including “I LOVE ADOLF HITLER” and “OVEN SURVIVOR #2.”
Adams, of the Fairfax Education Association, said she heard reports of users exposing their genitals and students forming private group chats to bully peers.
One 10th-grade teacher recounted a typical fiasco: Fifteen minutes in, someone entered his virtual classroom with a username including the n-word. The teacher removed the user, but the person kept rejoining.
The teacher tried to keep the lesson going but lost hope when the user began blaring loud music with obscene lyrics.
“It was incredibly embarrassing,” the teacher said. “As a teacher, it’s all about showing your students you have things under control.”
“If you don’t have any control,” he said, “how are you supposed to teach?”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fairfax-schools-online-learning-blackboard/2020/04/18/3db6b19c-80b5-11ea-9040-68981f488eed_story.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 18, 2020, 08:47:31 pm
Well the first day of online school is cancelled because kids started spamming the site with porn and racist garbage and dick pics in their avatars. What a great country we live in. Instead of making the day up tomorrow (they have half their classes on Wed and half on Fri, so one 45 min session per week), they're just skipping it and starting Friday.
this is how it was framed on WTOP
Fairfax County Public Schools canceled all teacher-led instruction for the rest of the day amid widespread technical issues preventing students from accessing distance learning tools.
I liked your version better


For many in Fairfax, the first day of distance learning quickly descended into chaos.
One AP Environmental Science class group chat filled with messages such as, “F--- you, yiu smell like gay.” Users joined a German class populated with usernames including “I LOVE ADOLF HITLER” and “OVEN SURVIVOR #2.”
Adams, of the Fairfax Education Association, said she heard reports of users exposing their genitals and students forming private group chats to bully peers.
One 10th-grade teacher recounted a typical fiasco: Fifteen minutes in, someone entered his virtual classroom with a username including the n-word. The teacher removed the user, but the person kept rejoining.
The teacher tried to keep the lesson going but lost hope when the user began blaring loud music with obscene lyrics.
“It was incredibly embarrassing,” the teacher said. “As a teacher, it’s all about showing your students you have things under control.”
“If you don’t have any control,” he said, “how are you supposed to teach?”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fairfax-schools-online-learning-blackboard/2020/04/18/3db6b19c-80b5-11ea-9040-68981f488eed_story.html
Guys, I had a good reason for doing all of this.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2020, 12:10:23 am
Well the first day of online school is cancelled
this is how it was framed on WTOP
Fairfax County Public Schools canceled
I liked your version better
Guys, I had a good reason for doing all of this.
This story is the gift that keeps giving
Wapo had my favorite version so far, would be fun to get yet another take on this.

Jules, was your screen name ironic?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 19, 2020, 01:33:23 pm
Yeah, she knows she's in a shitload of trouble.

Who's gonna do anything about it?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2020, 05:26:13 pm
Micky-d's doing their part during covid
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EV-vEhaU0AAZLjO?format=jpg&name=small)
So do you get a 4-way if you supersize it?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2020, 07:03:56 pm
Wreckless Eric Tests Positive for COVID-19
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2020, 10:51:38 pm
(https://scontent.fphl2-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/93803317_10219970745172575_3129489123790815232_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=1CShXIdiljsAX_M6ecl&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-4.fna&oh=b5d1e5df82b32b499511a2a5dd03fb44&oe=5EC37024)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 20, 2020, 06:15:05 am
In Israel...protest with social distancing
(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/israel.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1286)
More than 2,000 protesters involved in the “Black Flag” movement
What's the possibility that Greg Ginn is going to sue
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 20, 2020, 08:42:48 am
In Israel...protest with social distancing
(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/israel.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1286)
More than 2,000 protesters involved in the “Black Flag” movement
What's the possibility that Greg Ginn is going to sue
Man, cannot decide if I want to make a combover joke or a Trump's inauguration joke.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 20, 2020, 09:56:26 am
(https://assets.atlasobscura.com/article_images/36679/image.jpg)

Betcha Kellogg's is glad they discontinued this.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 20, 2020, 11:11:39 am
Maryland is concerning

Nearly 100 dead yesterday...like 900 new infections
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 20, 2020, 11:27:48 am
Its Monday. Numbers are always higher on Monday.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 20, 2020, 11:51:46 am
Ok but Maryland had 96 deaths and Virginia 23


Not sure where the deaths are but it’s not good

MD is climbing up the list of states in terms of infections...it passed Washington state this weekend

I wonder if most MD deaths and infections are in Montgomery County and Prince George’s

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 20, 2020, 12:13:17 pm
Maryland is concerning

Nearly 100 dead yesterday...like 900 new infections

Where are you getting 100 dead for Maryland yesterday? This says 23:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Maryland's peak death day is today:

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/maryland

Virginia's peak death day is April 25:

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/virginia

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 20, 2020, 12:20:09 pm
That’s where I am getting it

Can’t you read a chart?

It says 96 new deaths for Maryland ...obviously if reported at 9 am it’s the deaths that happened yesterday
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 20, 2020, 12:30:38 pm
how hasn't anyone remixed Paul Hardcastle's "19"? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3LdMAqUMnM)

19, 19, co-co-co-co-co-covid 19....
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 20, 2020, 12:32:56 pm
Maryland's projected peak death day is today:

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/maryland (https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/maryland)

Virginia's projected peak death day is April 25:

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/virginia (https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/virginia)


FTFY
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 20, 2020, 12:43:58 pm
That’s where I am getting it

Can’t you read a chart?

It says 96 new deaths for Maryland ...obviously if reported at 9 am it’s the deaths that happened yesterday

Those charts are based on GMT, which is four hours ahead of us. I've always just assumed the numbers are for deaths reported TODAY, and they update the numbers throughout the day. Maybe the 96 you're seeing for today is a bit high whereas the 23 for the previous day was a bit low. Maybe some of the previous day's deaths didn't get reported until today. That seems more likely that a one day jump from 23 to 96.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Vas Deferens on April 20, 2020, 01:17:52 pm
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/coronavirus-maryland-governor-larry-hogan-covid-19-testing-announcement/32209117
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 20, 2020, 03:12:29 pm
My wife's results came back negative which is borderline incredible to me because she is on day four of a fever over 100, a constant cough, and body aches that ramp up dramatically overnight. I wonder how accurate these tests are. Maybe she just has a weird, random post-Easter flu?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 20, 2020, 03:35:18 pm
My sister took the test during a long low grade fever where she was freaking out she had the virus

Anyways came back negative and she said 30% are false negatives..not sure if this is true...I don’t think she had covid19

I hope your wife feels better soon
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on April 20, 2020, 03:45:45 pm
My wife's results came back negative which is borderline incredible to me because she is on day four of a fever over 100, a constant cough, and body aches that ramp up dramatically overnight. I wonder how accurate these tests are. Maybe she just has a weird, random post-Easter flu?

She'll have to wait like me for the anti-bodies test when it comes out and then when they say "you've already have the infection" she'll say "I fuckin' knew it."

If it's any consolation, other than a slight chest restriction, I've felt pretty good since my few days of hell (over two weeks ago now).
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 20, 2020, 03:52:13 pm
She'll have to wait like me for the anti-bodies test when it comes out and then when they say "you've already have the infection" she'll say "I fuckin' knew it."
Yep, this is exactly what I told her. Stay inside and talk to no one and XX months from now when we have reliable antibody tests, I'll put dinner on it coming back positive.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 20, 2020, 03:53:27 pm
Anyways came back negative and she said 30% are false negatives..not sure if this is true...I don’t think she had covid19

I hope your wife feels better soon
Thanks. Just read something that showed a (relative small sample size) test done in China and the nasal swaps were only hitting at like 73% accuracy in a known-COVID group. WHO KNOWS?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 20, 2020, 04:25:57 pm
So many retards

https://twitter.com/i/events/1252046641688788995?fbclid=IwAR2R7gxJYHWFIbvxod7ruwS6Dr98BEYsLHSDkbEutIU7ejaCR3LPHNtv0Hg
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 20, 2020, 04:34:23 pm
So many retards

https://twitter.com/i/events/1252046641688788995?fbclid=IwAR2R7gxJYHWFIbvxod7ruwS6Dr98BEYsLHSDkbEutIU7ejaCR3LPHNtv0Hg
I think we refer to those with MAGA hats as intellectually challenged
seems they are going to need our sympathy more than our distaste

While I agree these people are idiots and putting others at risk...these rallies are a few hundred people and the news is showering them with attention (which they love and need)
it's not like the 20K people who showed up armed for the 'gun rally' in richmond
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 20, 2020, 05:16:16 pm
 " Gov Kemp announced that gyms, fitness centers, bowling alleys, body art studios, barbers, cosmetologists, hair designers, nail care artists, estheticians and massage therapists can reopen their doors on Friday — as long as owners follow strict social distancing and hygiene requirements."
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 20, 2020, 05:18:55 pm
Heard Hogan’s press conference and boy did he step up, with that deal with South Korea for testing kits.  Meanwhile in GA...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 20, 2020, 05:26:43 pm
Let’s wait and see...the feds may intercept them and steal them
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 20, 2020, 06:12:09 pm
fyi, kemp = GA.  i had to look it up...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 20, 2020, 06:28:12 pm
fyi, kemp = GA.  i had to look it up...
You know, for all people rag on Georgia, it was super bold of them to elect hilarious obese former basketball star and father of a multitude of children, Shawn Kemp, as their governor.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 21, 2020, 08:16:19 am
Meme game particularly strong at the moment

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWFTfKxUwAMSWFF?format=jpg&name=small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWFThJeU0AIUJdM?format=jpg&name=small)

Also a list of libertarian trading cards

https://twitter.com/CallieGontheT/status/1252426590341881862?s=20
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 21, 2020, 12:44:02 pm
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/94127703_10156870104131510_21717467772485632_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_oc=AQnnl0OtEWidXeQKN9pgkqs0tsAONXpBHGh6uJrezBLLUtRlHnfIuVG9cUKoFhodUyA&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=9ad8acf3f97e75fbadde165f1ede0aba&oe=5EC30F8F)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2020, 04:50:13 pm
A new analysis found that 11% of veterans with Covid-19 died when they received standard care — but the death rate rose to 28% when they were also given hydroxychloroquine, the malaria drug touted by Trump
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2020, 05:22:33 pm
These GOP idiots are in a death cultTX Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, who said "There are more important things than living,"

A gathering of covidiots is known as a covfefe.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on April 21, 2020, 06:50:29 pm
That's not quite "Give me Liberty or Give me Death!"  now is it?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2020, 07:03:45 pm
Give me Libety or give me trannys
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 21, 2020, 07:16:10 pm
Again with the trannys
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2020, 11:59:28 pm
first FDA approved test (https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/21/21229273/home-coronavirus-test-labcorp-fda-ppe-swab-pixel-health-care) at-home kits (https://www.pixel.labcorp.com/at-home-test-kits/covid-19-test) availble starting today
$119 and just send it to LabCorp
says it will give first access to health care workers and first responders.
not sure how many of these they could make, but the could just give everyone $1100 and one of these
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 22, 2020, 12:31:18 am
apple & google combine forces to track you and the virus (https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/04/apple-and-google-partner-on-covid-19-contact-tracing-technology/)
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) sent letters to Apple and Google on Tuesday urging the tech giants to make their CEOs personally liable for data collected in their joint coronavirus contact-tracing project.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on April 22, 2020, 08:55:11 am
Please God no.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/coronavirus-pandemic-brings-bens-chili-bowl-iconic-dc/story?id=70243517
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 22, 2020, 09:54:21 am
That sucks

Then you read about loans going to Shake Shack?

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 22, 2020, 09:55:08 am
Please God no.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/coronavirus-pandemic-brings-bens-chili-bowl-iconic-dc/story?id=70243517
I feel like if you've ever ate at Ben's Chili Bowl and are still alive, you have COVID antibody protection already.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 22, 2020, 09:55:25 am
Then you read about loans going to Shake Shack?
To be fair, they gave it back, if I am not mistaken.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 22, 2020, 10:21:46 am
Then you read about loans going to Shake Shack?
To be fair, they gave it back, if I am not mistaken.
only because they got bad press...Ruth Chris and Fogo d C not yet
but these really should have been means-tested, if you are a publicly-traded company, you are not a small business
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on April 22, 2020, 10:27:48 am
Please God no.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/coronavirus-pandemic-brings-bens-chili-bowl-iconic-dc/story?id=70243517
I feel like if you've ever ate at Ben's Chili Bowl and are still alive, you have COVID antibody protection already.

At this point in my life, I maybe go there once a year but from 2002 to 2010, it was a staple in my #beachbody life.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 22, 2020, 12:15:29 pm
Obviously it’s a landmark/ historic place at this point

Am sure someone will step in to help...


Check this out

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/22/french-study-suggests-smokers-at-lower-risk-of-getting-coronavirus?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR0z_jylSOx7NwMkMhmhQapVFWbw5op0cwkCtWJwzW8Si8r6FeIgmK3UvzY
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 22, 2020, 01:30:21 pm
A disturbing new study suggests Sean Hannity helped spread the coronavirus

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/4/22/21229360/coronavirus-covid-19-fox-news-sean-hannity-misinformation-death?fbclid=IwAR2QBL6kWbAQ6uX_fb6asN958nsVToBtGZHItAS_CdL7s7EbUcSNkux0HZU
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 22, 2020, 02:21:01 pm
So do we think we can get the funds together to get a Hazmat suit for Jules to attend.  Gotta imagine you've got no plans 4/24
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVpdtheXYAIa7ta?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 22, 2020, 02:44:41 pm
So do we think we can get the funds together to get a Hazmat suit for Jules to attend.  Gotta imagine you've got no plans 4/24
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVpdtheXYAIa7ta?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Another similar group tried this today and it was all of 25 people driving around in a square honking their horns repeatedly.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 22, 2020, 02:50:27 pm
So do we think we can get the funds together to get a Hazmat suit for Jules to attend.  Gotta imagine you've got no plans 4/24
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVpdtheXYAIa7ta?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Another similar group tried this today and it was all of 25 people driving around in a square honking their horns repeatedly.

So why is media giving so much attention to these types if their numbers are so low?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 22, 2020, 02:58:34 pm
So do we think we can get the funds together to get a Hazmat suit for Jules to attend.  Gotta imagine you've got no plans 4/24
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVpdtheXYAIa7ta?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Another similar group tried this today and it was all of 25 people driving around in a square honking their horns repeatedly.

So why is media giving so much attention to these types if their numbers are so low?
Because people want to talk about it, probably.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2020, 04:37:19 pm
what the hell do they mean by "...and do not touch your face can resume"??  have people stopped washing their hands?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2020, 04:40:48 pm
So why is media giving so much attention to these types if their numbers are so low?
Because people want to talk about it, probably.

because it's sensational.  either you're pro-protesters, in which case you think "yeay, finally!"; or you're anti-protester and you think "what a bunch of idiots".  either way, you can't look away so you watch the news story, or click the link, view the video - which is the point of media companies, innit?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 22, 2020, 04:51:05 pm
WHO is reporting there is no evidence to believe once you’ve had COVID you are “immune” to it again. And if that turns out to be the case, bunker in, folks.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2020, 05:23:19 pm
 Carolyn Goodman, the mayor of Las Vegas is having a moment.  i believe she's the covidiot of the day.

she wants to reopen casinos and let the virus and market forces determine which ones should close once there is an outbreak: "Assume everybody is a carrier," the mayor told MSNBC's Katy Tur on Tuesday. "And then you start from an even slate. And tell the people what to do. And let the businesses open and competition will destroy that business if, in fact, they become evident that they have disease, they're closed down. It's that simple."

then, she had the most bonkers interview with Anderson Cooper:
story on Business Insider (https://www.businessinsider.com/anderson-cooper-las-vegas-mayor-cnn-interview-2020-4) (lots of short clips)
story on CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/politics/las-vegas-mayor-social-distancing-cnntv/index.html) (only one video clip unfortunately, but it's a good one)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 23, 2020, 01:58:24 am
33 Signs From "Reopen" Protests Across The U.S. That Are 100% Real (https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/signs-from-covid-19-reopen-protests-across)

(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2020-04/20/18/asset/c80fa3ad0857/sub-buzz-1920-1587407591-13.png)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 23, 2020, 08:14:31 am
^is it weird that I'm impressed he spelled everything correctly

That is a great (and scary) compilation of photos

...but not sure why this guy is a problem
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2020-04/20/19/asset/96b509a740eb/sub-buzz-4048-1587411088-15.jpg?downsize=800:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 23, 2020, 09:18:28 am
Already knew this but more “evidence”

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/health/coronavirus-ventilator-patients-die/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 23, 2020, 10:06:12 am
Bartiromo on 4.4 million unemployment claims this week: "This is not much more than the expectations, we were expecting 4.2 mil, but there were some estimates out there that were even more dreadful. So, there is one argument to be made that it's not as bad as some people thought"

I guess that is an argument with reality or sanity?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 23, 2020, 10:32:57 am
For Space

https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/fairfax-county-distance-learning-failures-blackboard/65-8cd84749-4512-4ee4-911f-fb2d75124927?fbclid=IwAR0P0qIBN3jrScjITbDjt2dlDQLdhhoBYtSlHDFHkihQ1nx3k8AxBTyqVvw?fbclid=IwAR0P0qIBN3jrScjITbDjt2dlDQLdhhoBYtSlHDFHkihQ1nx3k8AxBTyqVvw
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 23, 2020, 12:24:35 pm
...but not sure why this guy is a problem
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2020-04/20/19/asset/96b509a740eb/sub-buzz-4048-1587411088-15.jpg?downsize=800:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto)

psychedelics might get me to finally understand their point of view, so, yeah, don't see what the problem is there.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 23, 2020, 01:05:00 pm
For Space

https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/fairfax-county-distance-learning-failures-blackboard/65-8cd84749-4512-4ee4-911f-fb2d75124927?fbclid=IwAR0P0qIBN3jrScjITbDjt2dlDQLdhhoBYtSlHDFHkihQ1nx3k8AxBTyqVvw?fbclid=IwAR0P0qIBN3jrScjITbDjt2dlDQLdhhoBYtSlHDFHkihQ1nx3k8AxBTyqVvw

Really, really, really disappointing. How is APS doing?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 23, 2020, 01:52:30 pm
13.9% of New Yorkers test positive for antibodies with a death rate of 0.5%.

That's five times as deadly as the flu, but still seems like good news.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus-updates-american-red-cross-antibody-tests-id/story?id=70301746
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 23, 2020, 01:53:46 pm
Do the antibodies protect you? Is that confirmed?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 23, 2020, 01:56:28 pm
Edit: that 0.5% does not factor in those who died at home...so higher than that but seemingly still  under 1% maybe?

I don't think anything regarding antibodies=immunity has been concluded.

The good news seems to be the morality rate seemingly being lower than once thought.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 23, 2020, 04:06:38 pm
More good news.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1253365625352867841
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 23, 2020, 06:29:08 pm
As a labradoodle owner, I think this was a wonderful choice. It also sounds like an Onion story.

Special Report: Former Labradoodle breeder was tapped to lead U.S. pandemic task force

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-hhschief-speci/special-report-hhs-chief-azar-had-aide-former-dog-breeder-steer-pandemic-task-force-idUSKCN2243CE?fbclid=IwAR2syMxML2KDVNlAZG1pS7tqpiuNeSVOLxXRMfR3INloO8xERi5iqtn0JtE
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 23, 2020, 06:39:23 pm
man, I feel like I heard about that story and possibly being good for the Onion on this board not too long ago

https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=22097.msg500739#new

Although I'm thinking some of you have me blocked ;)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on April 23, 2020, 06:43:21 pm
As a labradoodle owner

Say no more.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 23, 2020, 07:38:09 pm
As a labradoodle owner

Say no more.
actually, say more, I'm bored as shit
just annoyed that I had the scoop on that story in the right thread...and space gets all the attention
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 23, 2020, 07:46:42 pm
So word on the street is Trump thinks Peter Hook's band will be an effective treament?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 23, 2020, 07:51:54 pm
Well the New Order failed despite the Joy Division so I am not sure the Light can succeed
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2020, 01:36:48 pm
The OC is going to be so screwed.....

A California city filled its skate park with sand to deter skateboarders. Then the dirt bikes showed up. (https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/us/skate-park-sand-venice-san-clemente-trnd/index.html)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 24, 2020, 01:41:35 pm
The OC is going to be so screwed.....

A California city filled its skate park with sand to deter skateboarders. Then the dirt bikes showed up. (https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/us/skate-park-sand-venice-san-clemente-trnd/index.html)
Dirtbikes have that mad max vibe...they need to work on their outfits
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 24, 2020, 02:09:14 pm
So word on the street is Trump thinks Peter Hook's band will be an effective treatment?
I've always been bad at spotting sarcasm...
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1253740350683770880
Trump: It was said sarcastically.

So I will accept full blame for spreading this false narrative

Forget the bleach, let's talk about your companies debt to china, or how about those cases that are showing up at the SCOTUS in a few weeks?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 24, 2020, 04:24:27 pm
spotted in a Georgia bowling alley today
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWYqiU3UEAA4q6z?format=jpg&name=large)


this was pretty good too
@OfficiallyIce
I just wanna point out that “The Walking Dead” started in Georgia....
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2020, 10:25:49 am
I've felt this since early on.  We have no idea what the real rate of infection/mortality is.  Crap data in->crap results/analysis

Mostly because we still don't have a test that produces highly consistent results.  Add to that the asymptomatic...
As well as we have no way to verify the reliability of some of these numbers

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/coronavirus-case-counts-are-meaningless/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 27, 2020, 10:45:16 am
I don’t believe the numbers - taken with other numbers- are useless

They help indicate trends, etc

They do correlate with deaths

Look at New York and come back and tell me the number of cases means nothing

But they don’t mean everything

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 27, 2020, 11:01:00 am
I don’t believe the numbers - taken with other numbers- are useless

They help indicate trends, etc

They do correlate with deaths

Look at New York and come back and tell me the number of cases means nothing

But they don’t mean everything
Yeah this is the correct take. The numbers aren't gospel but they're not meaningless at all.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2020, 11:48:25 am
I didn't say they were useless, but I do feel they are not accurate.
and accuracy is important

Even how they are classifying deaths is not consistent, I just think everyone is an armchair expert based on the numbers that keep coming out
I think the numbers are flawed, so reliable analysis, well isn't reliable

Are they indicators, are they helping...yes for sure
but everyone is stating things as concrete facts on how many have tested positive and we know that there is a high false-positive rate (so that number could be WAAAY higher)
So how can we then say all the deaths are a direct result of corona, when the tests are not accurate

I'd feel a lot more comfortable if I knew that testing was providing much less false positives
And even if one came out this week...that doesn't correct all the data we have


I'm not a Dr (although I play one on the internet)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 27, 2020, 12:29:23 pm
More comfortable about what?

It really doesn’t matter if the number is accurate

How could it be accurate unless everyone got tested everyday?


We know we have millions of infected people and probably about 80,000

Americans who have died from covid related stuff so far and where it not for mitigation this number would be in the hundreds of thousands to millions

What else you need to know?

I guess I am not following you

In any case since Republicans want to ignore the issue not sure what accurate numbers would do for us...



Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on April 27, 2020, 01:36:34 pm
Ben Folds follows President Taylor Swift in decided to just cancel all 2020 events.

A Word About 2020.

This is the official announcement that my touring for 2020 is now canceled and will be rescheduled at the first opportunity in 2021. That’s the important part, but if you’re interested, here’s why I’ve made that decision now:

Infectious disease specialists tell us that COVID-19 will be here for a while, swirling around the globe until it is stopped by a vaccine, and that it is astronomically unlikely that we will develop and distribute that vaccine this year. In fact, we have never before developed a successful vaccine against any coronavirus. Well. That’s all I really need to know.

Just leaving shows on the books, going with wait-and-see until the last minute is not in the best interest of ticket buyers, promoters, crew and even businesses near venues. It just adds to our endless list of uncertainties. What is needed in a time of such uncertainty, when a historic pandemic is killing people, erasing jobs, and disrupting life as we know it, is to shed as much of that uncertainty as possible, and to take stock of that which is certain.

Health and safety come first. That is certain. The well-being of my audiences – from 12-year olds whose parents cover their ears when I forget not to cuss, to couples their grandparent’s age singing three-part harmonies – is too dear to me to be put at risk. Not to mention those whose paths we might cross once the show lets out. Until this virus is in the rear view - and again we’re told this will not be in 2020 - we cannot be certain large gatherings won’t re-ignite the spread just as it’s been contained. I’m sure that some cities, states and venues might technically allow our concerts much sooner than others. But remember that the USA is a massive country. One city may experience what seems like complete recovery just as another in a neighboring state is seeing an uptick in cases. It would be irresponsible to incentivize music fans to travel from where there was a cancelled show in an infected area, to attend a show in an infection-free area.

Our federal government leaders have decided to let the states and cities fend for themselves, making decisions like these all more stressful. It’s a little like when traffic lights are out during a storm. (Nobody ever complained of the government coming between them and a car accident, did they?) Absent clear direction, we’re all left to rely on what the car ahead of us did, hoping that nobody gets run over in the process. Honestly, absent federal guidance, I took my cue from Taylor Swift who also cancelled all her touring for 2020. A decision like that takes guts, so thank you President Swift. And I’m grateful to have a booking agent, manager, and crew with broad shoulders.

Of course, this is a huge disappointment to me personally. I’ve never gone a whole year in my two decades plus as a performer without seeing you all from the stage regularly.

Here’s what I say. Let’s get through this and look forward to a time when we can begin the next phase of that long road to recovery. When we can party like it’s 2021 and not like it’s 1918. When we can sing those three-part harmonies with healthy lungs. That is when live music will be able to step in and do its part to heal and inspire. Until then, please stay safe, and remember, no matter how bad it gets, the most comforting certainty is that all this too shall pass.

Ben
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 27, 2020, 01:39:26 pm
This really should have gone in the live thread
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on April 27, 2020, 01:48:47 pm
This really should have gone in the live thread

Maybe in the Just Cancelled thread. The Live thread is more for the Live Streaming stuff happening.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 27, 2020, 01:56:04 pm
It clearly needed to go in the 2024 thread as it is calling for Taylor Swift to run for the Presidency as soon as she's eligible.

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on April 27, 2020, 04:09:34 pm
It clearly needed to go in the 2024 thread as it is calling for Taylor Swift to run for the Presidency as soon as she's eligible.

But her emails!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 28, 2020, 01:10:05 pm
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/94615547_10156895069456510_3591983923917225984_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_oc=AQmnpkdfJJlEqeuPXyZw9N8mD5zY653YhQSMlKtE-pSsqDJGx08UhNT3RPMculTt5bE&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=0e028dcd00406e5d5a92f77750edb5b6&oe=5ECD0671) 

we hit one million cases of COVID-19 in the US.

one million.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 28, 2020, 05:31:43 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/94889760_10220058507766585_5666898846706302976_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=xBR4-oOOeVMAX9NQas5&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=076d8ebb4367a5e1e8ff1aed1792e109&oe=5ECD4E3D)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on April 28, 2020, 05:59:14 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/94889760_10220058507766585_5666898846706302976_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=xBR4-oOOeVMAX9NQas5&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=076d8ebb4367a5e1e8ff1aed1792e109&oe=5ECD4E3D)

(https://i.imgur.com/86ewaU8.jpg)
https://imgur.com/a/Jqlmwrh    (https://imgur.com/a/Jqlmwrh)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 29, 2020, 03:30:11 pm
Well the first day of online school is cancelled because kids started spamming the site with porn and racist garbage and dick pics in their avatars. What a great country we live in. Instead of making the day up tomorrow (they have half their classes on Wed and half on Fri, so one 45 min session per week), they're just skipping it and starting Friday.
this is how it was framed on WTOP
Fairfax County Public Schools canceled all teacher-led instruction for the rest of the day amid widespread technical issues preventing students from accessing distance learning tools.
I liked your version better


For many in Fairfax, the first day of distance learning quickly descended into chaos.
One AP Environmental Science class group chat filled with messages such as, “F--- you, yiu smell like gay.” Users joined a German class populated with usernames including “I LOVE ADOLF HITLER” and “OVEN SURVIVOR #2.”
Adams, of the Fairfax Education Association, said she heard reports of users exposing their genitals and students forming private group chats to bully peers.
One 10th-grade teacher recounted a typical fiasco: Fifteen minutes in, someone entered his virtual classroom with a username including the n-word. The teacher removed the user, but the person kept rejoining.
The teacher tried to keep the lesson going but lost hope when the user began blaring loud music with obscene lyrics.
“It was incredibly embarrassing,” the teacher said. “As a teacher, it’s all about showing your students you have things under control.”
“If you don’t have any control,” he said, “how are you supposed to teach?”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fairfax-schools-online-learning-blackboard/2020/04/18/3db6b19c-80b5-11ea-9040-68981f488eed_story.html

So it looks like the students of Fairfax have decided to take on NYC tip line
De Blasio’s social distancing tip line flooded with penis photos, Hitler memes  (https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/de-blasios-social-distancing-tip-line-flooded-with-obscenities/?)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 29, 2020, 03:40:33 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWy3peeXsAEyrgZ?format=jpg&name=medium)
This is for real and at the whitehouse gift store for $100
https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/product-p/covid-heroes.htm
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 29, 2020, 05:17:14 pm
Marked down from $125  ::)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 29, 2020, 08:17:08 pm
I just don't know what really guides these people.....
from axios
Jonathan Swan@jonathanvswan
Per source familiar, Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore, outside econ advisers to POTUS, sent a memo to the White House the states they believe will lead an economic recovery:

Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Nebraska, Nevada, South Carolina, Utah and Washington


is this the laughter curve?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 29, 2020, 08:23:01 pm
Dr. Laffer is on my company’s board and he’s a complete piece of shit in person the twice a year he has come here. He demands Ruth’s Chris for every lunch even if the rest of us are having something else delivered, we have to send a second person to get him one sad, massively overpriced steak.

He is also, literally, a person who has his assistant Nicholas write you an email and put “dictated but not read” after his closing salutation which is the most douchey thing imaginable.

Give me two years for the company to sell and I will amuse you all with so, so many Arthur Laffer tales.

One of the good things about COVID was it cancelled a speaking arrangement in DC/MoCo that he was going to do for us this month which I was going to have to sit through while he waxed nostalgic about Reagan in front of the olds.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 29, 2020, 08:33:02 pm
Dr. Laffer is on my company’s board and he’s a complete piece of shit in person the twice a year he has come here. He demands Ruth’s Chris for every lunch even if the rest of us are having something else delivered, we have to send a second person to get him one sad, massively overpriced steak.

He is also, literally, a person who has his assistant Nicholas write you an email and put “dictated but not read” after his closing salutation which is the most douchey thing imaginable.

Give me two years for the company to sell and I will amuse you all with so, so many Arthur Laffer tales.

One of the good things about COVID was it cancelled a speaking arrangement in DC/MoCo that he was going to do for us this month which I was going to have to sit through while he waxed nostalgic about Reagan in front of the olds.

Shit, I hope he doesn't read this message board.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 29, 2020, 08:53:29 pm
Shit, I hope he doesn't read this message board.
Zero risk

Although...we need to track down his assistant Nicholas as he might still be “dictating”
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 29, 2020, 08:58:39 pm
Dr. Laffer is on my company’s board and he’s a complete piece of shit in person the twice a year he has come here. He demands Ruth’s Chris for every lunch even if the rest of us are having something else delivered, we have to send a second person to get him one sad, massively overpriced steak.

He is also, literally, a person who has his assistant Nicholas write you an email and put “dictated but not read” after his closing salutation which is the most douchey thing imaginable.

Give me two years for the company to sell and I will amuse you all with so, so many Arthur Laffer tales.

One of the good things about COVID was it cancelled a speaking arrangement in DC/MoCo that he was going to do for us this month which I was going to have to sit through while he waxed nostalgic about Reagan in front of the olds.

Shit, I hope he doesn't read this message board.
Unless he’s xneverwherex I think I’m OK.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on April 30, 2020, 11:20:02 am
GWAR Urge Fans to Drink Bleach, Praise Trump for Suggesting People Inject Disinfectants to Combat Coronavirus (https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/04/gwar-drink-bleach-praise-trump/)

"If you wanna stay safe from COVID-19, drink bleach, shoot it, smoke it"
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 30, 2020, 11:40:38 am
GWAR Urge Fans to Drink Bleach, Praise Trump for Suggesting People Inject Disinfectants to Combat Coronavirus (https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/04/gwar-drink-bleach-praise-trump/)

"If you wanna stay safe from COVID-19, drink bleach, shoot it, smoke it"

It make sense as this has always been their stance...

With GWAR’s longstanding mission to destroy humankind,
drummer Jizmak Da Gusha gave Trump major kudos before describing different ways to ingest bleach in a new PSA:

“It was really great to hear our president in America say that it was ok to, y’know, use bleach as a cleaner, or as a drug. I mean, GWAR’s been using it as a drug forever, so, y’know, this is the stuff. You can inhale it, that’s a fun way. You can try to smoke it, shoot it. Obviously, drink it is the best. That’s what I like to do, just get the big old bottle and chug away! So if you wanna stay safe from COVID-19, drink bleach, shoot it, smoke it. Like I said before, GWAR does it all the ways.”



Although I have it on good authority that the band is still miffed that Julian survived.  From what I'm hearing, they are trying to rectify that
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 30, 2020, 11:47:54 am
Although I have it on good authority that the band is still miffed that Julian survived. 
I think they respect me for doing it.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 30, 2020, 01:34:04 pm
GWAR Urge Fans to Drink Bleach, Praise Trump for Suggesting People Inject Disinfectants to Combat Coronavirus (https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/04/gwar-drink-bleach-praise-trump/)

"If you wanna stay safe from COVID-19, drink bleach, shoot it, smoke it"

Mix it with ammonia and cure the whole damn room.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on April 30, 2020, 02:44:15 pm
Well this would be good news.

https://www.bloombergquint.com/coronavirus-outbreak/children-don-t-pass-covid-19-to-adults-report-indicates

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 30, 2020, 03:32:33 pm
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Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on April 30, 2020, 04:25:24 pm
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/94867177_3048236721907884_7605192255673991168_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_oc=AQlIs16ewUUcCrEz6R9vXKSvR9EUd5oM6dTMy4cp6Mp9wWCgAbf4NxVQBPW-1OWWAmA&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=0d5fb9dbd5fc9eff39a06c58655cac9d&oe=5ECF2EFE)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 30, 2020, 06:02:16 pm
I would be terrified if I worked in the Michigan State House

How is this OK the people show up armed to protest

I’m sorry but this Kind of activity should not be protected
this is insanity

I mean who is the stop one these guys accidentally shooting Off a round and then other people shoot up the place
100s dead because one idiot accidentally shot off a round

Then they say we are nazis when we think this behavior is insane
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 30, 2020, 06:18:58 pm
Seriously display of white privilege on display today.. WTF as you know all these asshats do is “hunt” and watch faux news doubt there is much culture in their lives
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 30, 2020, 07:32:24 pm
Gross
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: WALKonBack on April 30, 2020, 07:45:51 pm
Want the government  stepping in to stop all of these people showing up with AK47s at court houses to demand the shut down be lifted?  Have them all be black people; oh it'll end real quick.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on April 30, 2020, 10:53:30 pm
Shit

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/30/health/report-covid-two-more-years/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 01, 2020, 11:28:51 am
it's really great we have such a level headed penn ave resident who is now provided his rubber stamp for more cosplaying ignoramuses to take back their state capitols.  wtf is making a deal with them??? and you know that shit like that would never be said about a red state governor.  everyone of those protesters should have been lead away in zip tie handcuffs and charged with disturbing peace like every other peaceful protester seems to be treated.  so now we will  have more embolden idiots and it will probably not ended well, given you know how the drunk lady judge and the other personalities on faux news will be fanning the flames.  yes livid about how that was allowed to happen, etc.

/rant off

p.s this is result of far to much time on twitter, at least I have listening parties to keep me a bit sane.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 01, 2020, 05:36:35 pm
Not sure if this has changed...but MI has a great law where it's totally OK to bring automatic wepons with live amunition
but illegial to bring a sign
Bring your guns, leave your signs: Michigan Capitol rules in spotlight at Second Amendment rally (https://www.mlive.com/politics/2013/10/bring_your_guns_leave_your_sig.html)

Michigan State Police who work at the building regularly enforce the sign rule, but there is no rule or law preventing gun owners from carrying their weapons into the Capitol


This is going to end badly one of these days.  This is the 'hold my beer' crowd.  I really don't trust them at all to safely operate a firearm
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 02, 2020, 12:36:30 am
Trump suggested today that Americans wash their hands with boiling water. When asked to comment, Dr. Birx said, “the President was just spitballing.”
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on May 03, 2020, 05:34:08 pm
Organizer Of North Carolina Anti-Lockdown Protests Tests Positive For COVID-19 (https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/organizer-of-north-carolina-anti-lockdown-protests-tests-positive-for-covid-19-aaoJR4SmkUOKNIhZeitQcQ/?utm_source=SP&utm_medium=SP&utm_campaign=SP&utm_term=SP&utm_content=SP&fbclid=IwAR0j7CYqpjc53kilktf1UqEiNvJNYvFnNQ6DXh8HAGghNAtAp4QAX_BFrFg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 03, 2020, 06:27:37 pm
Organizer Of North Carolina Anti-Lockdown Protests Tests Positive For COVID-19 (https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/organizer-of-north-carolina-anti-lockdown-protests-tests-positive-for-covid-19-aaoJR4SmkUOKNIhZeitQcQ/?utm_source=SP&utm_medium=SP&utm_campaign=SP&utm_term=SP&utm_content=SP&fbclid=IwAR0j7CYqpjc53kilktf1UqEiNvJNYvFnNQ6DXh8HAGghNAtAp4QAX_BFrFg)
I feel like this forum needs a Karma's a bitch thread
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on May 04, 2020, 10:10:27 am
Alison Mosshart (IG (https://www.instagram.com/p/B_wYvcjn8_m/))

"Another deadly storm ripped through Nashville today, seemingly out of nowhere on a sunny Sunday afternoon. 80 mile an hour winds and trees down, injuries, power lines mangled. 113k homes without juice in darkness here. Been living in quiet candle light for the last 10 hours or so contemplating the layers upon layers of coping going on in this country/world, how disaster, illness and inconvenience can pile up in mere minutes, all at once and just like that. The fortitude required or the madness almost- to deal - is humbling. As I stumble around the house to the tune of my vast unpreparedness, charging my phone in my car, engine running on a pitch black street and not a star in the sky, i am, just here. A blackout in a lockdown is an interesting twist. A psycho-comedy. We’re standing around laughing at walls. We look insane (probably) tho none of the mirrors in the house can confirm this. But I salute us as we try hard for better times with patience and humor and inventiveness. To the powers that be, I’m sending supremely positive vibes to a little boy named Judge tonight that got hurt here in nashville in the storm. Wishing for him a full recovery and wearing the sweater I made a few years back which coincidentally bears his name. Sending all my love and strength to him and his family and to all of you out there who are struggling and pulling your hair out- the 2020 haircut- so fashionable, so “now”- Stay safe, stay home, and wear yr masks when you go out, por favor and gracias from the bottom of my heart. Love and respect. X
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 04, 2020, 10:42:55 am
Shelly Colvin's son and husband were crushed by a tree in that freak storm yesterday, both in ICU. Awful.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 04, 2020, 02:16:07 pm
COVID deaths by age in VA, population 8.5 million. A majority of the deaths are people in nursing homes. Perhaps we should be quarantining nursing homes and their workers instead of everyone.

10-19 0
 20-29 2
 30-39 4
 40-49 16
 50-59 41
 60-69 115
 70-79 158
 80+ 348
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2020, 03:21:43 pm
I thought we already hashed this out dude, you are repeating yourself

You think you got a new angle here?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 04, 2020, 04:52:22 pm
COVID deaths by age in VA, population 8.5 million. A majority of the deaths are people in nursing homes. Perhaps we should be quarantining nursing homes and their workers instead of everyone.
No doubt, one phase at a time.
Nothing is going to change those people from being old and infirm and likely candidates for death by covid

also the virus knows know state borders...we are in the DMV
known coronavirus cases in the District, Maryland and Virginia was 51,070 on Monday for a total of 2,259 fatalities.

the initial lock down was to flatten the curve so everyone isn't at the ER at the same time

Va. governor extends widespread shutdown through May 14, says first phase of reopening could begin after that

also
Northam allowed doctors, dentists and veterinarians to resume elective procedures Friday, the first step in the greater capital region


So if you can convince your vet to give you a haircut...you should be in business
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on May 04, 2020, 09:47:02 pm
Yet another unexpected discovery:

French hospital discovers Covid-19 case from December (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/french-hospital-discovers-covid-19-case-december-retested)
Man found to have had virus a month before government confirmed first cases
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 04, 2020, 09:48:22 pm
wow, this just sounded like a deep fake
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1257482269092020224

"This, with this Militia look and long guns...ahhh NO.  Show of force is dangerous, it puts our police at risk"
-anti-gun hero, Sean Hannity

Here is my take...Brad Parscale felt that this look is bad for Trump's reelection and I bet you this is going to be the party line from the right-wing media and they are going to try from within to quell the fires they started

Not sure it will work
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 05, 2020, 07:35:18 am
Fat white people exercising their rights for boardwalk fries and dipping dots. At least space will have somewhere to go this summer.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/ocean-city-to-reopen-beaches-boardwalk-on-may-9-officials.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 05, 2020, 08:29:33 am
Fat white people exercising their rights for boardwalk fries and dipping dots. At least space will have somewhere to go this summer.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/ocean-city-to-reopen-beaches-boardwalk-on-may-9-officials.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Don't act so self-righteous. You'll be going places this summer, too. If club shows start back up, all of you will be at one in less than two weeks.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 05, 2020, 09:08:42 am
I thought we talked about this?


I ain’t going to any shows for the foreseeable future unless it’s Neil Young


Missing concerts is not the same thing as disregarding advice  from medical professionals


I am bummed about the Kraftwerk show being cancelled as I think it will be
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on May 05, 2020, 09:29:20 am
Fat white people exercising their rights for boardwalk fries and dipping dots. At least space will have somewhere to go this summer.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/ocean-city-to-reopen-beaches-boardwalk-on-may-9-officials.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Don't act so self-righteous. You'll be going places this summer, too. If club shows start back up, all of you will be at one in less than two weeks.

I am not so sure about that Dr. Spaceman. I am trying to figure out if/when I will even see my soon to be 80 year old mom in NY again. Am hoping that show-going is a thing again by December.

Also, here's a compilation of some Dr. Spaceman clips from 30 Rock.

  https://www.nbc.com/30-rock/video/dr-spaceman-medical-moments/n21216   (https://www.nbc.com/30-rock/video/dr-spaceman-medical-moments/n21216)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 05, 2020, 09:38:38 am
Fat white people exercising their rights for boardwalk fries and dipping dots. At least space will have somewhere to go this summer.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/ocean-city-to-reopen-beaches-boardwalk-on-may-9-officials.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Don't act so self-righteous. You'll be going places this summer, too. If club shows start back up, all of you will be at one in less than two weeks.

I am not so sure about that Dr. Spaceman. I am trying to figure out if/when I will even see my soon to be 80 year old mom in NY again. Am hoping that show-going is a thing again by December.

Also, here's a compilation of some Dr. Spaceman clips from 30 Rock.

  https://www.nbc.com/30-rock/video/dr-spaceman-medical-moments/n21216   (https://www.nbc.com/30-rock/video/dr-spaceman-medical-moments/n21216)

Assuming our West Coast family vacation is postponed, I'm planning on driving to upstate NY in June/July to visit my 79 yo mom and brother.

You'll probably have to fly to a Red State to see a concert in December.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 05, 2020, 10:12:25 am
If you're feeling generous... This puts shit into perspective. From my child's school listserv.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is a 5th-grade student in Montgomery County who is undergoing chemotherapy.  At the beginning of April, after not feeling well for several days, her mother suddenly and unexpectedly died. The girl is living in an apartment with her aunt, uncle, and two cousins and all are grieving the loss of their family member. Due to COVID-19, the aunt and uncle are now unemployed, so there is no money coming in and food supply is running low. In addition, the family does not have a car, but does need to get the girl to the hospital for chemotherapy treatments.

The PTA, MCPS, and her Delegates & district council members are engaged to find resources for this family at this very difficult time. However, in the interim, emergency support is needed. We are trying to raise money to pay for their rent, utilities, and nutritious foods for the aunt, uncle, cousins, and young girl while the student is undergoing chemotherapy to alleviate some of the financial stress that they are currently experiencing.

Identity, an organization that provides case management and support for families who live in high-poverty areas of Montgomery County, has graciously agreed to direct funds to this family through their LIFT Fund if designated as such. Donors can make a contribution by going to Identity's LIFT Fund (https://identity-youth.org/donate/), selecting an amount, and designating in the “Additional Comments” box that funds are for the “The A.G. Family.” Contributors will get a thank letter that will serve as a receipt for tax purposes.

Please help this family by making a donation today.

Thank you so much.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on May 05, 2020, 10:16:02 am
If you're feeling generous... This puts shit into perspective. From my child's school listserv.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is a 5th-grade student in Montgomery County who is undergoing chemotherapy.  At the beginning of April, after not feeling well for several days, her mother suddenly and unexpectedly died. The girl is living in an apartment with her aunt, uncle, and two cousins and all are grieving the loss of their family member. Due to COVID-19, the aunt and uncle are now unemployed, so there is no money coming in and food supply is running low. In addition, the family does not have a car, but does need to get the girl to the hospital for chemotherapy treatments.

The PTA, MCPS, and her Delegates & district council members are engaged to find resources for this family at this very difficult time. However, in the interim, emergency support is needed. We are trying to raise money to pay for their rent, utilities, and nutritious foods for the aunt, uncle, cousins, and young girl while the student is undergoing chemotherapy to alleviate some of the financial stress that they are currently experiencing.

Identity, an organization that provides case management and support for families who live in high-poverty areas of Montgomery County, has graciously agreed to direct funds to this family through their LIFT Fund if designated as such. Donors can make a contribution by going to Identity's LIFT Fund (https://identity-youth.org/donate/), selecting an amount, and designating in the “Additional Comments” box that funds are for the “The A.G. Family.” Contributors will get a thank letter that will serve as a receipt for tax purposes.

Please help this family by making a donation today.

Thank you so much.

Thanks. Donated.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on May 05, 2020, 10:18:52 am
Fat white people exercising their rights for boardwalk fries and dipping dots. At least space will have somewhere to go this summer.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/ocean-city-to-reopen-beaches-boardwalk-on-may-9-officials.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Don't act so self-righteous. You'll be going places this summer, too. If club shows start back up, all of you will be at one in less than two weeks.

I am not so sure about that Dr. Spaceman. I am trying to figure out if/when I will even see my soon to be 80 year old mom in NY again. Am hoping that show-going is a thing again by December.

Also, here's a compilation of some Dr. Spaceman clips from 30 Rock.

  https://www.nbc.com/30-rock/video/dr-spaceman-medical-moments/n21216   (https://www.nbc.com/30-rock/video/dr-spaceman-medical-moments/n21216)

Assuming our West Coast family vacation is postponed, I'm planning on driving to upstate NY in June/July to visit my 79 yo mom and brother.

You'll probably have to fly to a Red State to see a concert in December.

Maybe we can carpool as far as the GW Bridge? I feel like whoever controls the music, we'd be in good shape.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 05, 2020, 10:46:31 am
Fat white people exercising their rights for boardwalk fries and dipping dots. At least space will have somewhere to go this summer.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/ocean-city-to-reopen-beaches-boardwalk-on-may-9-officials.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Don't act so self-righteous. You'll be going places this summer, too. If club shows start back up, all of you will be at one in less than two weeks.

I am not so sure about that Dr. Spaceman. I am trying to figure out if/when I will even see my soon to be 80 year old mom in NY again. Am hoping that show-going is a thing again by December.

Also, here's a compilation of some Dr. Spaceman clips from 30 Rock.

  https://www.nbc.com/30-rock/video/dr-spaceman-medical-moments/n21216   (https://www.nbc.com/30-rock/video/dr-spaceman-medical-moments/n21216)

Assuming our West Coast family vacation is postponed, I'm planning on driving to upstate NY in June/July to visit my 79 yo mom and brother.

You'll probably have to fly to a Red State to see a concert in December.

Maybe we can carpool as far as the GW Bridge? I feel like whoever controls the music, we'd be in good shape.

Sorry, won't be going anywhere near GW Bridge. And going to a county with a case rate at about a quarter of what Fairfax County has. Sounds like you'll have a riskier slog?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on May 05, 2020, 11:02:09 am
Fat white people exercising their rights for boardwalk fries and dipping dots. At least space will have somewhere to go this summer.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/ocean-city-to-reopen-beaches-boardwalk-on-may-9-officials.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Don't act so self-righteous. You'll be going places this summer, too. If club shows start back up, all of you will be at one in less than two weeks.

I am not so sure about that Dr. Spaceman. I am trying to figure out if/when I will even see my soon to be 80 year old mom in NY again. Am hoping that show-going is a thing again by December.

Also, here's a compilation of some Dr. Spaceman clips from 30 Rock.

  https://www.nbc.com/30-rock/video/dr-spaceman-medical-moments/n21216   (https://www.nbc.com/30-rock/video/dr-spaceman-medical-moments/n21216)

Assuming our West Coast family vacation is postponed, I'm planning on driving to upstate NY in June/July to visit my 79 yo mom and brother.

You'll probably have to fly to a Red State to see a concert in December.

Maybe we can carpool as far as the GW Bridge? I feel like whoever controls the music, we'd be in good shape.

Sorry, won't be going anywhere near GW Bridge. And going to a county with a case rate at about a quarter of what Fairfax County has. Sounds like you'll have a riskier slog?

yeah, 95, NJ Tpike, some sort of bridge, LIE, thru the epicenter, to the very close to the epicenter.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 05, 2020, 11:46:34 am
Are you guys driving with your windows down and heads out the window? Or taking a packed Chinatown bus up?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on May 05, 2020, 11:47:14 am
Are you guys driving with your windows down and heads out the window? Or taking a packed Chinatown bus up?

Yes.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on May 05, 2020, 03:55:20 pm
'Mourning in America' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_yG_-K2MDo)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 05, 2020, 04:06:50 pm
'Mourning in America' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_yG_-K2MDo)
Trump went balistic at 12:46 AM after he watched that, must be good stuff :)

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1257532101966036993

the best part is he was pissed as they 'stole' the Reagan ad slogan morning in America

twitter quickly reminded him...he did the same thing
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXO-YdTUMAESLoO?format=jpg&name=240x240)

I've been a big fan of the Lincoln project and they've done some great stuff...really getting under trumps skin
Dems just don't have the cajones to do stuff like this, so I'm glad they are doing the dirty work

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 05, 2020, 04:13:22 pm
Cajones: drawers
Cojones: balls
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 05, 2020, 04:27:02 pm
Cajones: drawers
Cojones: balls
I'm illiterate in all languages...but you knew exactly what I meant!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on May 05, 2020, 07:32:16 pm
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Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 05, 2020, 08:23:55 pm
+1
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 05, 2020, 09:23:33 pm
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/95042761_3565055440176202_1797647343286222848_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_oc=AQn2ANi4imnEuTOs-hfcIbBiyZH8il5Zph8kzGhOrHK22uFDrfI5NOMc9CwBd-3Ji60&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=f7f6d58473c0df13bd335a42ac346160&oe=5ED8A747)

Lololol!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 05, 2020, 10:44:41 pm
So I just heard RBG went to john Hopkins hospital for an non- corona issue
 Talk about the riskiest place to be
I wish her well
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on May 07, 2020, 03:21:07 am
Scientists say a now-dominant strain of the coronavirus could be more contagious than original (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-emerged-more-contagious-than-original)

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.

The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
(...)
In many places where the new strain appeared, it quickly infected far more people than the earlier strains that came out of Wuhan, China, and within weeks it was the only strain that was prevalent in some nations, according to the report. The new strain’s dominance over its predecessors suggests that it is more infectious, according to the report, though exactly why is not yet known.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 07, 2020, 08:27:55 am
Scientists say a now-dominant strain of the coronavirus could be more contagious than original (https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-emerged-more-contagious-than-original)

Scientists have identified a new strain of the coronavirus that has become dominant worldwide and appears to be more contagious than the versions that spread in the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a new study led by scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory.

The new strain appeared in February in Europe, migrated quickly to the East Coast of the United States and has been the dominant strain across the world since mid-March, the scientists wrote.
(...)
In many places where the new strain appeared, it quickly infected far more people than the earlier strains that came out of Wuhan, China, and within weeks it was the only strain that was prevalent in some nations, according to the report. The new strain’s dominance over its predecessors suggests that it is more infectious, according to the report, though exactly why is not yet known.

If only it were less lethal. But with all these asymptomatic cases, maybe it is.

So maybe the Chinese weren't lying about their case totals, if the earlier strain was less contagious.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on May 07, 2020, 01:22:04 pm
One of Trump's personal valets has tested positive for coronavirus (https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/07/politics/trump-valet-tests-positive-covid-19/index.html)

unfortunately trump is still testing negative.

obviously trump won't be quarantining himself, despite the direct exposure...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 07, 2020, 01:47:45 pm
https://trumpdeathclock.com/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 07, 2020, 03:02:31 pm
for those parents working from home

(https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/image/C5622AQHllVMpG9NHuQ/feedshare-shrink_800/0?e=1591833600&v=beta&t=eOr3l7DwaT9b0STnuCx_u9wF7p7c3aiiPliBtO9gzPw)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on May 07, 2020, 04:10:19 pm
So maybe the Chinese weren't lying about their case totals

Never trust the Chinese numbers.  NEVER.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 07, 2020, 04:30:19 pm
Is it possible though that 100,000 Chinese could of died in Wuhan and nobody knows? Wouldn’t satellites pick this up?

I don’t trust the Chinese government either but am curious if hundreds of thousands died wouldn’t we know? By we I mean our government not individuals
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on May 07, 2020, 06:07:53 pm
I read somewhere that Russia and China in particular had a 30-40% increase of reported pneumonia deaths in March or April while reporting COVID deaths were decreasing.  So they started looking at other increases in deaths and found that they were simply spreading them out among other causes.   
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 08, 2020, 07:15:56 am
The Pure Michigan ad has gotten a little update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs6jJ7dmWHs
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 08, 2020, 11:16:49 am
Want the government  stepping in to stop all of these people showing up with AK47s at court houses to demand the shut down be lifted?  Have them all be black people; oh it'll end real quick.

Let's see what happens.

 https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/07/michigan-lawmaker-armed-escort-rightwing-protest?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15889508052943&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fus-news%2F2020%2Fmay%2F07%2Fmichigan-lawmaker-armed-escort-rightwing-protest
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 08, 2020, 01:21:44 pm
Organizer Of North Carolina Anti-Lockdown Protests Tests Positive For COVID-19 (https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/organizer-of-north-carolina-anti-lockdown-protests-tests-positive-for-covid-19-aaoJR4SmkUOKNIhZeitQcQ/?utm_source=SP&utm_medium=SP&utm_campaign=SP&utm_term=SP&utm_content=SP&fbclid=IwAR0j7CYqpjc53kilktf1UqEiNvJNYvFnNQ6DXh8HAGghNAtAp4QAX_BFrFg)
I feel like this forum needs a Karma's a bitch thread
Trump's driver and Pence Staffer
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 08, 2020, 02:23:50 pm
Organizer Of North Carolina Anti-Lockdown Protests Tests Positive For COVID-19 (https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/organizer-of-north-carolina-anti-lockdown-protests-tests-positive-for-covid-19-aaoJR4SmkUOKNIhZeitQcQ/?utm_source=SP&utm_medium=SP&utm_campaign=SP&utm_term=SP&utm_content=SP&fbclid=IwAR0j7CYqpjc53kilktf1UqEiNvJNYvFnNQ6DXh8HAGghNAtAp4QAX_BFrFg)
I feel like this forum needs a Karma's a bitch thread
Trump's driver and Pence Staffer
JUST IN: Second Pence staffer tests positive for coronavirus
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on May 08, 2020, 02:41:19 pm
Organizer Of North Carolina Anti-Lockdown Protests Tests Positive For COVID-19 (https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/organizer-of-north-carolina-anti-lockdown-protests-tests-positive-for-covid-19-aaoJR4SmkUOKNIhZeitQcQ/?utm_source=SP&utm_medium=SP&utm_campaign=SP&utm_term=SP&utm_content=SP&fbclid=IwAR0j7CYqpjc53kilktf1UqEiNvJNYvFnNQ6DXh8HAGghNAtAp4QAX_BFrFg)
I feel like this forum needs a Karma's a bitch thread
Trump's driver and Pence Staffer
JUST IN: Second Pence staffer tests positive for coronavirus

Katy Miller, married to Stephen
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 08, 2020, 02:57:00 pm
@nbcwashington
Virginia’s Phase 1 plan: Salons reopen w/ strict rules, restaurants can reopen outdoor seating 50% capacity, gyms outdoor only w/ less than 10, non essential retail 50% capacity, masks required. Churches allowed 50% capacity.  Entertainment stays closed.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 08, 2020, 03:17:40 pm
@nbcwashington
Virginia’s Phase 1 plan: Salons reopen w/ strict rules, restaurants can reopen outdoor seating 50% capacity, gyms outdoor only w/ less than 10, non essential retail 50% capacity, masks required. Churches allowed 50% capacity.  Entertainment stays closed.

Can Seth book shows in VA churches?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 08, 2020, 03:18:18 pm
Organizer Of North Carolina Anti-Lockdown Protests Tests Positive For COVID-19 (https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/organizer-of-north-carolina-anti-lockdown-protests-tests-positive-for-covid-19-aaoJR4SmkUOKNIhZeitQcQ/?utm_source=SP&utm_medium=SP&utm_campaign=SP&utm_term=SP&utm_content=SP&fbclid=IwAR0j7CYqpjc53kilktf1UqEiNvJNYvFnNQ6DXh8HAGghNAtAp4QAX_BFrFg)
I feel like this forum needs a Karma's a bitch thread
Trump's driver and Pence Staffer
JUST IN: Second Pence staffer tests positive for coronavirus

Katy Miller, married to Stephen

That would be wonderful news, but where are you reading that?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 08, 2020, 03:20:33 pm
REM / Trump mashup Losing My Civilians (https://youtu.be/IeT6Aeof4Ok)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on May 08, 2020, 03:23:32 pm
Here.

Pence's press secretary tests positive for coronavirus, Trump says

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/politics/vice-president-mike-pence-staff-member-coronavirus/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 08, 2020, 03:26:16 pm
@nbcwashington
Virginia’s Phase 1 plan: Salons reopen w/ strict rules, restaurants can reopen outdoor seating 50% capacity, gyms outdoor only w/ less than 10, non essential retail 50% capacity, masks required. Churches allowed 50% capacity.  Entertainment stays closed.

Can Seth book shows in VA churches?
Ween fans are basically a suicide cult.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 08, 2020, 05:23:09 pm
Dancers will be nude except for gloves and masks. And the club owner, a real coronavirus warrior, says, “I’m willing to go to jail for this.”

Club Omaha plans to reopen later this month (https://www.omaha.com/news/local/nudity-and-face-masks-club-omaha-plans-to-reopen-next-week/article_0a9f77a7-0197-5f1f-96c3-3288b19fb25f.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on May 09, 2020, 11:08:13 am
Dancers will be nude except for gloves and masks. And the club owner, a real coronavirus warrior, says, “I’m willing to go to jail for this.”

Club Omaha plans to reopen later this month (https://www.omaha.com/news/local/nudity-and-face-masks-club-omaha-plans-to-reopen-next-week/article_0a9f77a7-0197-5f1f-96c3-3288b19fb25f.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share)

This could good for Reno strip clubs where meth mouth is prevelant.

That being said Oregon's drive thru and home delivery varieties are much better than the Instagram private room model.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: WALKonBack on May 09, 2020, 10:11:15 pm
I wonder if this means,  restaurants can now force their workers back to work,  and off the 600 to 800 a week from unemployment.

Oh, they will be thrilled.   "You got my drink order wrong,  servant.  Fix it now. I've been oppressed in my house for months."
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 09, 2020, 10:15:29 pm
"You got my drink order wrong,  servant.  Fix it now. I've been oppressed in my house for months."
STOP: I cannot get more erect!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: WALKonBack on May 09, 2020, 11:26:54 pm
Thatz some lulz, right there.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 09, 2020, 11:41:04 pm
"You got my drink order wrong,  servant.  Fix it now. I've been oppressed in my house for months."
STOP: I cannot get more erect!

Read that in a Karen Walker voice.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 11, 2020, 01:11:11 pm
Number of daily deaths seems to be plummeting

I really hope for good
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 11, 2020, 01:34:24 pm
Number of daily deaths seems to be plummeting

I really hope for good

Sat, Sun, and even Mon normally have undercounts with much higher totals Tues and Wed, but yeah 750 yesterday was the lowest daily total since March.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 11, 2020, 06:50:36 pm
A magnificent self own

WATCH: Protesters calling for gyms to reopen in Florida are doing squats and push-ups outside the Clearwater courthouse

https://twitter.com/wfla/status/1259867354206535681?s=21
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 12, 2020, 01:52:46 pm
Gov. Ralph is saying that Nothern Va stays closed for two more weeks

"The Northern Virginia Region has about a 25 percent positivity rate, while the rest of the Commonwealth is closer to 10 percent. Further, in the last 24 hours, the Northern Virginia Region reported over 700 cases, while the rest of the Commonwealth reported approximately 270."

So you Richmond folks can start getting your pubic hair trimmed and tattoos added to your sleeve
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 12, 2020, 02:07:01 pm
Speaking of dicey dodgy salad bars

watch the video in this tweet
https://twitter.com/Johnny_suputama/status/1258786799851376641
NHK conducted an experiment to see how germs spread at a cruise buffet.

They applied fluorescent paint to the hands of 1 person and then had a group of 10 people dine.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 12, 2020, 03:44:37 pm
Does any other developed country show such utter disdain and contempt for the lives of its people?

I mean 83,000 dead and doesn’t seem like there are too many ruffled feathers

I hear the argument that it’s a smaller percentage but it’s a hell of a lot more dead and hurting people.

Is it because most affected people are elderly? Or a disproportionate number black?

I am embarrassed for us. People overseas pity us. Like if we are so great like we keep telling everyone why can’t we get our act together? Nobody expects us to be South Korea but compare us to say Germany... our response is pathetic. It’s almost nonexistent. The approach is arguably to “take the punch”... Those that have to die must die

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on May 12, 2020, 04:20:33 pm
Does any other developed country show such utter disdain and contempt for the lives of its people?

I mean 83,000 dead and doesn’t seem like there are too many ruffled feathers

I hear the argument that it’s a smaller percentage but it’s a hell of a lot more dead and hurting people.

Is it because most affected people are elderly? Or a disproportionate number black?

I am embarrassed for us. People overseas pity us. Like if we are so great like we keep telling everyone why can’t we get our act together? Nobody expects us to be South Korea but compare us to say Germany... our response is pathetic. It’s almost nonexistent. The approach is arguably to “take the punch”... Those that have to die must die

It is fucking horrifying...the open up crowd who call Gov. Hogan "Lockdown Larry" are totally cool with 3000/day for the next 30.

I don't understand how folks can just "get on with the business" while so many people die each day. It paralyzes me to a great extent.

Maybe if  (like in the 1970s and 80s and 90s(?)) we all as a country were still watching one of three nightly news anchors call of the death totals at dinner every night the collective consciousness would be different? But now, folks just tune into that which fits their narrative, and fuck the rest...2nd Wave coming soon.

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 12, 2020, 04:58:15 pm
But now, folks just tune into that which fits their narrative, and fuck the rest...
I do feel this is a big problem with the US today
Not really sure how it gets changed
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 12, 2020, 06:12:32 pm
Does any other developed country show such utter disdain and contempt for the lives of its people?

I mean 83,000 dead and doesn’t seem like there are too many ruffled feathers

I hear the argument that it’s a smaller percentage but it’s a hell of a lot more dead and hurting people.

Is it because most affected people are elderly? Or a disproportionate number black?

I am embarrassed for us. People overseas pity us. Like if we are so great like we keep telling everyone why can’t we get our act together? Nobody expects us to be South Korea but compare us to say Germany... our response is pathetic. It’s almost nonexistent. The approach is arguably to “take the punch”... Those that have to die must die

America is populated by people who came here because they despised their home government, and by people who were dragged here against their will into a system of slavery that was sanctioned by the government.

Germans have always been good at following whatever orders their leader's give them.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 12, 2020, 06:54:08 pm
Well like I said ANY developed nation. Take Australia if you want to compare the US with people who despised government/rebels/jailbirds

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 12, 2020, 07:46:59 pm
Well like I said ANY developed nation. Take Australia if you want to compare the US with people who despised government/rebels/jailbirds

Yeah, I hear you. I was just being snarky, at least somewhat. I actually did think of Australia when i posted that.

To be further contrary, I'll post this opinion piece.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/take-shutdown-skeptics-seriously/611419/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 13, 2020, 07:39:41 pm
So we have to open up because the Trump regime is too incompetent to enact the policy they should enact before opening up anyways? I say they resign then

I get it : they are never going to get it together so why not just open up? And what? 100,000 dead? I would rather just stay closed til January..I mean that’s a lot of people..at what point is it too many? Should we open up if a million people will die?!?

It’s fine to talk about the importance of the economy but if one’s family member dies needlessly who gives a crap

I guess to this point it doesn’t matter cause it’s old people, blacks and Latinos



Again, there is no reaction here..just got off phone with my mom in Buenos Aires and she tells me everyone there is wearing plastic shields on top of mask ..here I haven’t seen many

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 13, 2020, 08:19:32 pm
Just unfuckinbelievable

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/politics/wisconsin-supreme-court-strikes-down-stay-at-home-order/index.html



There is something really wrong with America
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 14, 2020, 08:38:18 am
January? Hah. This virus may never go away.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-who-briefing/this-virus-may-never-go-away-who-says-idUSKBN22P2IJ
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 14, 2020, 08:55:41 am
I saw that!


Just makes it all that much more important to get our act together


Of course we need to reopen but we should be testing millions a day..and employ an army of contact tracers


I have always been skeptical of the assumption we will soon have a vaccine

Maybe we will maybe we won’t

The other big concern I have is who is to say it won’t or isn’t mutating into different strains which will cause different illnesses
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 14, 2020, 09:28:27 am
I saw that!


Just makes it all that much more important to get our act together


Of course we need to reopen but we should be testing millions a day..and employ an army of contact tracers


I have always been skeptical of the assumption we will soon have a vaccine

Maybe we will maybe we won’t

The other big concern I have is who is to say it won’t or isn’t mutating into different strains which will cause different illnesses

I hear you on all of the above. It's one of those posts that if it were on Facebook, I wouldn't know whether to like it or not. I agree with it all, but it doesn't make me feel good like a picture of a puppy does.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 14, 2020, 09:34:30 am
here ya go space
(https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/little-puppy-tabby-kitten-260nw-654539092.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 14, 2020, 10:49:30 am
MoCo Numbers continue to climb and climb!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Vas Deferens on May 14, 2020, 11:03:53 am
https://medium.com/swlh/our-industry-isnt-coming-back-like-yours-is-4cbf261194e1
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on May 14, 2020, 11:13:13 am
MoCo Numbers continue to climb and climb!

But the daily increase is flat or smaller. That's what they mean by flattening the curve. Still not over, but possibly at the beginning of a very long ending.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 14, 2020, 11:22:00 am
Still not over, but possibly at the beginning of a very long ending.
or this year will be “the darkest winter in modern history,”
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 14, 2020, 11:40:03 am
MoCo Numbers continue to climb and climb!

But the daily increase is flat or smaller. That's what they mean by flattening the curve. Still not over, but possibly at the beginning of a very long ending.

It went from 200ish to 700ish to over 1,000 every day this week, not sure I'd call that flattening.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on May 14, 2020, 11:48:53 am
Here's the new daily case count from https://montgomerycountymd.gov/hhs/rightnav/coronavirus.html

5/1/2020   454
5/2/2020   165
5/3/2020   231
5/4/2020   234
5/5/2020   157
5/6/2020   249
5/7/2020   242
5/8/2020   284
5/9/2020   239
5/10/2020   207
5/11/2020   147
5/12/2020   221

So yeah, not as flat as I had previously stated, but nowhere near 1000 new cases every day.  Were you looking at Maryland data?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 14, 2020, 12:16:51 pm
I want a graph please...can't really tell which way the curve is going when you just list a bunch of numbers

although after reviewing this, kinda looks like my golf score records
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on May 14, 2020, 12:24:50 pm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49894677181_829108469c_w.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 14, 2020, 12:26:06 pm
Man heilung delivers quick!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on May 14, 2020, 12:30:53 pm
Watching Elrich's news conference on FB - the comments are ridiculous
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 14, 2020, 12:47:54 pm
Here's the new daily case count from https://montgomerycountymd.gov/hhs/rightnav/coronavirus.html

5/1/2020   454
5/2/2020   165
5/3/2020   231
5/4/2020   234
5/5/2020   157
5/6/2020   249
5/7/2020   242
5/8/2020   284
5/9/2020   239
5/10/2020   207
5/11/2020   147
5/12/2020   221

So yeah, not as flat as I had previously stated, but nowhere near 1000 new cases every day.  Were you looking at Maryland data?

Doh!

But yes, still going up slightly
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 14, 2020, 12:58:46 pm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49894677181_829108469c_w.jpg)
well if it wasn't for that fake report on 5/1 (come on people, you know Obama did that) the curve would be a lot flatter
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on May 14, 2020, 01:01:44 pm
Yeah its hard to tell what happened that day. Presume it was some "catch up" reporting that would have smoothed the curve a bit. Fair enough to consider it spurious for trendline purposes.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on May 14, 2020, 02:30:59 pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/an-easier-coronavirus-test-is-within-spitting-distance/2020/05/13/aba0ccd4-945f-11ea-82b4-c8db161ff6e5_story.html

Brooks, who is also the chief operating officer and director of technology development at a firm called RUCDR Infinite Biologics, has come up with a coronavirus test that relies on nothing more than spitting into a cup.

His firm has won emergency use authorization from the Food and Drug Administration for saliva tests that people can perform at home. It’s a breakthrough in a nation that has struggled to expand coronavirus testing to the degree experts say is needed to safely return the country to some degree of normalcy.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 14, 2020, 02:41:34 pm
A lot of these good news stories you hear about one time and never again!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 14, 2020, 02:46:57 pm
Brooks, who is also the chief operating officer and director of technology development at a firm called RUCDR Infinite Biologics, has come up with a coronavirus test that relies on nothing more than spitting into a cup.
For the small sliver of the population that are sexually aroused by chewing tobacco use, there has never been a sexier or safer time to be alive in this entire pandemic.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 14, 2020, 02:51:00 pm
Brooks, who is also the chief operating officer and director of technology development at a firm called RUCDR Infinite Biologics, has come up with a coronavirus test that relies on nothing more than spitting into a cup.
For the small sliver of the population that are sexually aroused by chewing tobacco use, there has never been a sexier or safer time to be alive in this entire pandemic.

I don't think you've spent enough time in Red State Country to realize that that is actually a major turn on for a fair share of the rube population.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 14, 2020, 03:27:30 pm
Brooks, who is also the chief operating officer and director of technology development at a firm called RUCDR Infinite Biologics, has come up with a coronavirus test that relies on nothing more than spitting into a cup.
For the small sliver of the population that are sexually aroused by chewing tobacco use, there has never been a sexier or safer time to be alive in this entire pandemic.

I don't think you've spent enough time in Red State Country to realize that that is actually a major turn on for a fair share of the rube population.
jules lives in the Richmond area, I'm sure he has first hand exposure to this
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 15, 2020, 10:21:42 am
211 new cases in MoCo.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2020, 11:08:42 am
It seems likely that with a imcreasedt testing they will catch more of the asymptomatics. So it will be tough for the number of daily cases to decrease if the are catching a higher percentage of the positives.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 15, 2020, 11:13:51 am
Why would asymptomatic people be tested?

I mean I can’t get a test
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 15, 2020, 11:15:12 am
It seems likely that with a imcreasedt testing they will catch more of the asymptomatics. So it will be tough for the number of daily cases to decrease if the are catching a higher percentage of the positives.

Who is getting tested without symptoms?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 15, 2020, 11:17:42 am
I mean I can’t get a test
Really? Every PatientFirst type place here has drive up clinics. No doctors order needed.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 15, 2020, 11:20:25 am
What is patient first?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2020, 11:33:53 am
Why would asymptomatic people be tested?

I mean I can’t get a test

There were 370K people tested yesterday and only 25k positives. So many asymptomatics were tested.

I got a message from my personal doctor a few weeks ago that they have tests. I assume I could have asked for one when I went in last week for an ear infection.

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 15, 2020, 11:34:22 am
What is patient first?
Do you guys not have those there? PatientFirst is an extremely ubiquitous chain of Urgent Care medical centers in Virginia/NC (you know, the kind of place where if you need stitches but don't want to go to the ER or you have the flu but no insurance/PCP and just want to pay cash for your one doctors appointment every 5 years).
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 15, 2020, 11:46:24 am
We call that urgent care center here I think
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 15, 2020, 12:06:19 pm
We call that urgent care center here I think

It's kind of like calling whole foods by the proper name instead of "grocery store."
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 15, 2020, 12:09:02 pm
Got it


I don’t see a point to getting anything other than an antibody test
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: vansmack on May 15, 2020, 12:12:01 pm
It's also why capitalizing proper nouns exists in English grammar.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2020, 12:27:30 pm
We call that urgent care center here I think

If you work with the elderly or health compromised, you might want to get it on the regular. Cuomo has ordered nursing home workers tested every three days.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2020, 12:38:38 pm
I seems like this is the scariest new development...

(New York) State officials are now investigating 110 cases of a potentially life-threatening pediatric inflammatory syndrome that appears to be related to the virus and has so far been linked to three deaths, Mr. Cuomo said. (Mayor Bill de Blasio said earlier in the day that city officials were investigating 100 cases of the syndrome.)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 15, 2020, 01:34:15 pm
this pic speaks volumes
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYEqf2YXgAAyUYX?format=jpg&name=large)
I really wish I could just stick an apple in trumps mouth
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2020, 01:39:15 pm
this pic speaks volumes
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYEqf2YXgAAyUYX?format=jpg&name=large)
I really wish I could just stick an apple in trumps mouth

Who are the guys on the far left and far right? Guessing the left is Azar the right is who?

It's probably been a long time since Trump has had an apple in his mouth.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on May 15, 2020, 02:42:01 pm
Man alone at sea for 3 months emerges to a changed world. Immediately after stepping off his boat, he immediately hugged in defiance of social distancing order.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/05/15/canada-man-at-sea-new-zealand-coronavirus-pandemic-pkg-vpx.tvnz
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on May 15, 2020, 04:23:53 pm
It seems likely that with a imcreasedt testing they will catch more of the asymptomatics. So it will be tough for the number of daily cases to decrease if the are catching a higher percentage of the positives.

... aaaaaand this is exactly why trump doesn't want more testing: if you look, you'll find.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2020, 04:45:35 pm
It seems likely that with a imcreasedt testing they will catch more of the asymptomatics. So it will be tough for the number of daily cases to decrease if the are catching a higher percentage of the positives.

... aaaaaand this is exactly why trump doesn't want more testing: if you look, you'll find.

Sure, but in addition to discovering how contagious this thing is, even with social distancing, they're discovering how much less lethal it is than originally thought.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 15, 2020, 05:18:18 pm
I don’t get that


I mean over 100,000 have died counting the undercount...with stay at home orders everywhere

Not to mention we don’t know the long term impact on the health of many that survive their battle or related illnesses or syndromes

Where you expecting a million to have died by now Space?

I really cannot stand anything that even closely minimizes the death toll

Again I know four people that have lost family to covid...one person lost two people

Maybe it’s your stats/technocratic background or work but the way you keep describing things relating to covid kind of comes across as insensitive at best and heartless at worst

Again, we have lost over 100,000 Americans WITH serious stay at home/social distancing protocols in place
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2020, 07:27:42 pm
I don’t get that


I mean over 100,000 have died counting the undercount...with stay at home orders everywhere

Not to mention we don’t know the long term impact on the health of many that survive their battle or related illnesses or syndromes

Where you expecting a million to have died by now Space?

I really cannot stand anything that even closely minimizes the death toll

Again I know four people that have lost family to covid...one person lost two people

Maybe it’s your stats/technocratic background or work but the way you keep describing things relating to covid kind of comes across as insensitive at best and heartless at worst

Again, we have lost over 100,000 Americans WITH serious stay at home/social distancing protocols in place

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

Look at the first graph. I'm not going to add up every day, but the number of estimated cases is over 10 million through May 15. Even if you use 100K deaths (their estimate was 89K through May 15), that's still only a 1% death rate. The survival rate for those 80+ who get it is still 80%.

33% of the deaths have been people in nursing homes. Whereas 0.5% of the population live in nursing homes. It seems like we should be strictly quarantining nursing home residents and their caregivers and to a lesser degree anybody over 65 and anybody with a comorbidity. Not closing school next year and purposely causing the Great Depression 2.

Thankfully, it seems like the governors agree with me.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 15, 2020, 07:39:41 pm
I don’t fully agree with Space (or even mostly agree) but I do think making an analysis of what number will die and how that number changes if we do or don’t do _____ is not, on its face, crass and beyond the pale like some are acting.

If hardcore social distancing and keeping restaurants/salons/etc closed changes the death toll nationwide by 5,000 (a ridiculous figure I am making up) I think as a society we have an obligation to discuss if that’s a reasonable payoff for all the other things that come along with those three months.

I feel this has become so politicized (equally so on the left, of which I will remind everyone I am a member of) that reasonable, logical, sober discussions of this are pretty much impossible. You just get rampant value signaling by all sides and the mindset that anyone who makes a slightly different decision/value equation than yourself must be called out as a heretic. It’s not helpful.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 15, 2020, 08:04:21 pm
So basically the fatality rate is less than 1%, not 3-5% as was originally feared.

I'm not questioning the three month shutdown at all. I'm just saying it can't go on forever. There may never be an effective vaccine.

Very much agree with Julian's final paragraph.

Have a good weekend, y'all.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 15, 2020, 10:38:22 pm
The side effects such as 36 million unemployed and millions probably losing health care are more a product of the way our economy is organized than the stay at home orders. There are many countries with stay at home orders where the unemployment numbers have barely moved and not one person has lost health care. Blaming it all on covid is in a way facile. It really should not have been that difficult to keep it together for a few months. We didn’t even try.

The idea behind the stay at home orders was to flatten the curve so as to buy time to increase readiness but if our government can’t do that then the problem is our government not covid or the thinking behind the plan

I don’t see my views as political but ethical. And  I just try to listen to scientists and health experts. At the end of the day everything is political I suppose

I do think schools should reopen, elderly care facilities should have special measures, etc.      Reopening must happen and some cost will be borne.

Not going to lie though: I find it distressing to see so many buying into the Republican framing on this but have at it...It ain’t going to affect me or my immediate family. I ain’t going back out there. I assume in the fall my kids will go back to school and I am ok with that but I ain’t going to be attending concerts or eating out until I think it’s safe.

Texas had 2000 new cases today. Why? Erroneous public policy at odds with what scientists and health care experts said we should do but if we want to take the Texas model national let’s go

It’s convenient for many to blame every problem on the shutdown but it’s not quite that simple
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 16, 2020, 02:45:03 pm
Equilibrium is the word


We need to find the equilibrium
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2020, 08:28:44 am
As coronavirus testing expands, a new problem arises: Not enough people to test

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/as-coronavirus-testing-expands-a-new-problem-arises-not-enough-people-to-test/2020/05/17/3f3297de-8bcd-11ea-8ac1-bfb250876b7a_story.html?itid=hp_hp-top-table-high_viruslabcapacity-440pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 18, 2020, 09:47:21 am
Myrtle Beach, last night. Did I see Julian at the 3 minute mark?

https://www.facebook.com/Yarields/videos/10158644086101454/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 18, 2020, 10:05:02 am
When you tell people testing doesn’t matter, 100,000 dead is a good job, fight for your freedom and anyways it just kills old people it’s obviously hard to keep people social distancing


Trump and Republicans won the framing... so enjoy opening up America

We will see what happens...maybe it works out and covid19 disappears and people stop dying...anyway it’s not lethal really..I mean the percentage of people who die is low..we do have 330,000,000 people so why inconvenience so many for so few?

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: shemptiness on May 18, 2020, 01:32:26 pm
Eric Trump claims coronavirus is Democratic hoax, will ‘magically’ vanish after 2020 election (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/17/eric-trump-coronavirus/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 18, 2020, 01:45:16 pm
Eric Trump claims coronavirus is Democratic hoax, will ‘magically’ vanish after 2020 election (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/17/eric-trump-coronavirus/)
Worked with the Mexican Caravan...why, not with COVID, they both start with C
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 18, 2020, 04:39:47 pm
 Trump says he's been taking hydroxychloroquine for "about a week and a half" as a preventative measure against the coronavirus,


good follow up
Harry Shearer @theharryshearer
One time you gotta hope he's telling the truth:
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 19, 2020, 10:36:28 am
Interesting

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/us/coronavirus-time-risk/index.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 19, 2020, 12:17:56 pm
Interesting

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/us/coronavirus-time-risk/index.html
bodes well for delivery and short shopping visits

doesn't bode well for the concert industry, unless we do 3 song shows and forbid sing-a-longs (which might be welcomed by some)

but as the article stated more than once, we have no data and have no idea if this is the case...all anecdotal
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 19, 2020, 12:52:30 pm
Interesting

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/us/coronavirus-time-risk/index.html

I read that a week or two ago and until now though the author, "Erin" was a woman.

Plus, what Hatch said. Plane rides and Metro rides seem like a bad idea. Maybe school too.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 19, 2020, 12:55:55 pm
Well you’re very well read

How about this?

https://www.studyfinds.org/study-covid-19-much-deadlier-than-flu-1-3-death-rate-among-symptomatic-patients/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 19, 2020, 01:16:31 pm
Nope, that one is new to me. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on May 19, 2020, 05:27:22 pm
The state of Georgia made it look like its covid cases were going down ***by putting the dates out of order on its chart*** May 5 was followed by April 25, then back to May again, whatever made it look like a downslope.

https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/1262029906512404480?s=09
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on May 19, 2020, 06:21:35 pm
The state of Georgia made it look like its covid cases were going down ***by putting the dates out of order on its chart*** May 5 was followed by April 25, then back to May again, whatever made it look like a downslope.

https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/1262029906512404480?s=09


what.  the.  actual.  FUCK.

did they think no one would notice?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 19, 2020, 06:37:41 pm
The state of Georgia made it look like its covid cases were going down ***by putting the dates out of order on its chart*** May 5 was followed by April 25, then back to May again, whatever made it look like a downslope.

https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/1262029906512404480?s=09


what.  the.  actual.  FUCK.

did they think no one would notice?

Good thing we got Heilung4eva on the case!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 20, 2020, 08:07:07 am
 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

https://amp.delmarvanow.com/amp/5211504002
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 20, 2020, 08:09:35 am
^ that should go in the Hey Seth thread  :o
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on May 20, 2020, 08:29:03 am
^ that should go in the Hey Seth thread  :o

LOL
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 20, 2020, 08:51:43 am
^ that should go in the Hey Seth thread  :o
Fucking savage. Good God, that man has a family, Hatch.
 


 



 


 


 


 


 


 



I mean, I have no idea if they've disowned him, but genetically anyway . . .
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 20, 2020, 10:05:14 am
Let’s face it...over 50% of covid deaths have happened in four states located in the northeast: NY, NJ, MA, PA...four typically Democratic voting states


It’s a very unfortunate reality with widespread political impact in our very divided nation....

If more people were dropping dead in other regions and states things might be different...not wishing it to happen
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2020, 11:13:38 am
Very interesting

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/why-do-some-covid-19-patients-infect-many-others-whereas-most-don-t-spread-virus-all#

They concluded that k for COVID-19 is somewhat higher than for SARS and MERS. That seems about right, says Gabriel Leung, a modeler at the University of Hong Kong. “I don’t think this is quite like SARS or MERS, where we observed very large superspreading clusters,” Leung says. “But we are certainly seeing a lot of concentrated clusters where a small proportion of people are responsible for a large proportion of infections.” But in a recent preprint, Adam Kucharski of LSHTM estimated that k for COVID-19 is as low as 0.1. “Probably about 10% of cases lead to 80% of the spread,” Kucharski says.

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 20, 2020, 11:52:20 am
^ that should go in the Hey Seth thread  :o
Fucking savage. Good God, that man has a family, Hatch.
so to be clear...wasn't meant as a burn, but to say...hey maybe we can do concerts in those 'bumper tables'
imagine how fun it would be to slam dance
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on May 20, 2020, 11:54:55 am
^ that should go in the Hey Seth thread  :o
Fucking savage. Good God, that man has a family, Hatch.
so to be clear...wasn't meant as a burn, but to say...hey maybe we can do concerts in those 'bumper tables'
imagine how fun it would be to slam dance
Oh, see, I thought you were suggesting he wear one so he cannot get within 6 feet of a massage therapist. MY MISTAKE.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2020, 03:56:27 pm
Why is it we're (probably wisely, to my chagrin) keeping schools closed, perhaps even in the Fall, but allowing churches to be open?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-california-church-service-mothers-day-covid-19-exposure/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 20, 2020, 04:19:07 pm
well schools are run by the state gov't and churches are private orgs

I'm really not a big fan of any organized religion* ...so this might be a way to get less churches?

*The Church of the Subgenius is not organized!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2020, 04:27:56 pm
Because I'm a numbers nerd...

Pennsylvania has more COVID deaths over age 100 than under age 45. More deaths over age 95 than under age 60. More deaths over 85 than under 80.

https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/Documents/Diseases%20and%20Conditions/COVID-19%20Death%20Reports/Weekly%20Report%20of%20Deaths%20Attributed%20to%20COVID-19%20--%202020-05-17.pdf
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 20, 2020, 04:39:17 pm
well at least it's killing the sexes at an equal proportion to population!
Gender# of Deaths Percent
Female 2,296 51%
Male 2,197 49%

Didn't early on they say that Men were more at risk?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2020, 04:49:25 pm
well at least it's killing the sexes at an equal proportion to population!
Gender# of Deaths Percent
Female 2,296 51%
Male 2,197 49%

Didn't early on they say that Men were more at risk?

I saw that and it stood out to me as well.

One explanation that popped into my mind was that PA has a higher rate of nursing home COVID deaths than nationally.

So that made me think...who resides in nursing homes? And the answer...predominantly women.


For those age 65-74 who reside in U.S. nursing homes, for every 100 men there are 132 women. Among residents of nursing homes age 75-84, for every 100 men there are 246 women, and among those age >/=85, for every 100 men there are 425 women.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15692280/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 20, 2020, 05:05:39 pm
well at least it's killing the sexes at an equal proportion to population!
Gender# of Deaths Percent
Female 2,296 51%
Male 2,197 49%

Didn't early on they say that Men were more at risk?

I saw that and it stood out to me as well.

One explanation that popped into my mind was that PA has a higher rate of nursing home COVID deaths than nationally.

So that made me think...who resides in nursing homes? And the answer...predominantly women.


For those age 65-74 who reside in U.S. nursing homes, for every 100 men there are 132 women. Among residents of nursing homes age 75-84, for every 100 men there are 246 women, and among those age >/=85, for every 100 men there are 425 women.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15692280/
so by that logic...women who are still living over 65 are at more risk then men who are not living
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2020, 05:53:18 pm
well at least it's killing the sexes at an equal proportion to population!
Gender# of Deaths Percent
Female 2,296 51%
Male 2,197 49%

Didn't early on they say that Men were more at risk?

I saw that and it stood out to me as well.

One explanation that popped into my mind was that PA has a higher rate of nursing home COVID deaths than nationally.

So that made me think...who resides in nursing homes? And the answer...predominantly women.


For those age 65-74 who reside in U.S. nursing homes, for every 100 men there are 132 women. Among residents of nursing homes age 75-84, for every 100 men there are 246 women, and among those age >/=85, for every 100 men there are 425 women.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15692280/
so by that logic...women who are still living over 65 are at more risk then men who are not living

Setting aside the COVID, if you're a single guy in a nursing home your odds of scoring chicks is very good. As the Beach Boys would say, two girls for every boy.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 20, 2020, 05:57:08 pm
Setting aside the COVID, if you're a single guy in a nursing home your odds of scoring chicks is very good. As the Beach Boys would say, two girls for every boy.
Oh I'm well aware of this...why do you think I go to Florida so much
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2020, 08:21:04 pm
Di I already post this one?


https://www.wsj.com/articles/superspreader-events-offer-clue-on-curbing-coronavirus-11589977873


Superspreader Events Offer a Clue on Curbing Coronavirus
Some scientists think banning mass gatherings may be enough to keep the pandemic in check

Some scientists looking for ways to prevent a return to exponential growth in coronavirus infections after lockdowns are lifted are zeroing in on a new approach: focus on avoiding superspreading events.

The theory is that banning mass public events where hundreds of attendees can infect themselves in the space of a few hours, along with other measures such as wearing face masks, might slow the pace of the new coronavirus’s progression to a manageable level even as shops and factories reopen.

Researchers believe that the explosive growth of coronavirus infections that overwhelmed hospitals in some countries was primarily driven by such events earlier this year—horse races in Britain, carnival festivities in the U.S. and Germany or a soccer match in Italy.

The study of superspreading events could help scientists better understand how the virus can propagate in crowded conditions—in offices, schools, churches, gyms and public transportation—and guide governments in regulating such public occasions as weddings, trade conferences and sports games.

There is little doubt about the mechanisms involved in superspreading events. A study published by the National Academy of Sciences in the U.S. last week found that one minute of loud speech was enough to produce thousands of droplets that remain airborne for about 12 minutes, potentially able to infect anyone in the area. Similar studies have shown that virus-laden aerosols, particles smaller than droplets, can levitate for hours after being released in indoors spaces

A more surprising finding is that mass infections tend to be more serious than those contracted in other circumstances, perhaps because of sustained exposure to a larger amount of virus.

Most cases globally, and especially most deaths, happened after superspreading events,” said Hendrik Streeck, a virologist with the University Hospital Bonn, Germany, who published the world-wide first study of a coronavirus superspreading event.

His research into the outbreak in the western county of Heinsberg, which in March became a center of the epidemic in Germany, established that the infection spread across the region like wildfire after around 400 people took part in a traditional carnival party. They drank, sang, kissed and danced for several hours in a large hall on Feb. 15.

The people who attended not only got infected and then spread the virus across the county, but also showed stronger symptoms and a comparatively severe illness, Dr. Streeck says—possibly because they received a higher load of the virus from close and prolonged exposure. Weeks later, thousands were infected across the region and dozens died.

Superspreading events exist in many infectious diseases, but with Covid-19 they are especially dangerous because the virus has a longer period of incubation in which patients show no symptoms but can infect others. Sars and MERS, two other deadly coronaviruses that produced smaller global outbreaks in recent years, were also driven by superspreading events, research has shown

The Mardi Gras festivities in Louisiana, a choir practice in Skagit County, Washington and a meeting of executives of the Biogen drug company near Boston are among the one-off events scientists think helped give the pandemic a fateful boost.

U.S. meatpacking plants, where hundreds have become infected, have also emerged as superspreading sites: counties with or near meatpacking plants have been found to have nearly twice as many Covid-19 cases as the national average, according to an analysis by the Environmental Working Group, a nonprofit organization.
In April, Blaine County in Idaho became one of America’s coronavirus hot spots when hundreds of people tested positive following an apres-ski party. Smaller events like weddings, parties and funerals have also served to turbocharge contagion. In one case, an infected individual visited a funeral and a birthday party within three days in February, spreading the virus to 16 people, three of whom died.

“It is now pretty clear that large groups of people close together are good opportunities to spread the virus,’’ said Marc Lipsitch, professor of epidemiology at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

The experience of several European countries seems to confirm the special role played by superspreading events. Over the past four weeks, Germany, Austria, Denmark, Norway and other countries that have exited early from lockdowns have removed most restrictions on public life except those targeting mass gatherings. So far, new infections have remained low and constant. Sweden, which never had a mandatory lockdown, managed to control and then reduce the spread by relying on only one restrictive measure: prohibiting gatherings of over 50 people.

One remaining question mark regards schools. While no country where schools have reopened has so far reported a sharp increase in infections, some scientists fear schools could act as accelerators for the pandemic.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2020, 08:37:16 pm
Nearly 1.5 million tests today (yesterday?) and only 20K positives. We got this, guys.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 20, 2020, 08:52:14 pm
It’s been weeks and one would think we are on the downslope

1500 more dead today gives one pause though (I get it’s a lagging indicator)..we have paid an incredible cost to flatten this

The whole thing about super spreading events bodes very badly for concerts...we may not see a return to concerts until / if a vaccine is developed

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 20, 2020, 09:04:44 pm
I got to say the situation in Brazil is horrifying


It’s no coincidence the three countries which denied the crisis and refused to lock down early are the ones with the worst leaders and the highest death totals

US
UK
Brazil (will be in second place in a couple of weeks)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 21, 2020, 05:08:03 pm
Nearly 1.5 million tests today (yesterday?) and only 20K positives. We got this, guys.


Was this an error in stats cause the site I followed decreased the number of total tests by a million today
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 21, 2020, 07:53:17 pm
It appears we already paid our summer pool membership months ago


Not sure if and when they will open

https://dc101.iheart.com/content/2020-05-20-if-you-go-to-the-pool-this-summer-the-cdc-says-you-should-wear-a-mask/?Keyid=socialflow&Sc=editorial&Pname=local_social&fbclid=IwAR2QECGykKdhz-aCUVxRDUY2MiBFBgAdEJBbH4I24OmKgkhOKoZ1mUrSWEw
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 21, 2020, 10:00:04 pm
Virus ‘does not spread easily’ from contaminated surfaces or animals, revised CDC website states (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/21/virus-does-not-spread-easily-contaminated-surfaces-or-animals-revised-cdc-website-states/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 22, 2020, 04:33:53 pm
https://theweek.com/speedreads/916030/dc-now-highest-coronavirus-positivity-rate-country
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2020, 04:53:25 pm
so I'm going to edit this to make me feel better

The Washington, D.C., metro area has the highest coronavirus positivity rate in the country,
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2020, 04:56:15 pm
It appears we already paid our summer pool membership months ago


Not sure if and when they will open

https://dc101.iheart.com/content/2020-05-20-if-you-go-to-the-pool-this-summer-the-cdc-says-you-should-wear-a-mask/?Keyid=socialflow&Sc=editorial&Pname=local_social&fbclid=IwAR2QECGykKdhz-aCUVxRDUY2MiBFBgAdEJBbH4I24OmKgkhOKoZ1mUrSWEw
apparently the market has an answer
(https://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_21/1572040/mask-swim-suit-te-inline2-200521_e0431e155c17a2b5a5fff0938daf38e9.fit-560w.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on May 22, 2020, 06:49:12 pm
not only will you never be as fast as usain bolt, you'll also never be as savage (https://twitter.com/usainbolt/status/1249708513066131457)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 23, 2020, 01:13:56 pm
Vaccine might be ready in record time...maybe even September

https://www.lanacion.com.ar/el-mundo/coronavirus-estudios-vacunas-avanzan-urgencia-esperanza-nid2368177
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 23, 2020, 01:56:24 pm
I think it’s likely Brazil will beat us in reported daily deaths today

First time we will not be #1 in two months or so?


What do Brazil and US have in common?

Right wing wacko leaders who couldn’t care less how many die...and have disregarded scientists and medical community
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on May 24, 2020, 06:31:06 pm
JDG. You ok, bro?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on May 26, 2020, 11:05:57 am
JDG. You ok, bro?

Not really but not Covid, so ... wrong thread?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on May 26, 2020, 11:30:04 am
JDG. You ok, bro?

Not really but not Covid, so ... wrong thread?

Guess so - at least there's that! Hope you feel better soon.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: challenged on May 26, 2020, 11:39:39 am
JDG. You ok, bro?

Not really but not Covid, so ... wrong thread?

Guess so - at least there's that! Hope you feel better soon.

Thanks. Bad 5 days or so.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on May 26, 2020, 12:27:38 pm
Trained French dogs successfully sniff out coronavirus (https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Trained-dogs-succeed-in-sniffing-out-Covid-19-coronavirus)

testing - who needs a lab?

(actually, it's german shepherds...)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on May 27, 2020, 01:52:47 am
100K (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 27, 2020, 01:04:06 pm
Johns Hopkins which everyone uses seems to be about 2000 behind this count


We are at over 101,000

Factor in those not being counted we are at probably 135k

Nobody seems to care

Until deaths aren’t largely concentrated in the northeast (plus MI, IL and LA arguably) the rest of the country doesn’t seem willing to give a shit...

It’s been eye opening and I have to say I think less of us and our country
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 28, 2020, 11:41:13 am
I’m not a scientist but this sounds like good news…

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2020/05/27/wuhan-chinas-coronavirus-testing-shows-a-0002-infection-rate/#243b0ed31093
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on May 28, 2020, 11:55:54 am
That is great news although trusting China.....still it seems in line with everything we are learning and seeing


I think what we see is that we need to continue to avoid so called super spreader events and can reopen

Defining super spreader events seems paramount but I think concerts, conferences, sporting events, church, choirs etc have been mentioned...I posted -last night-an article that focused on this

This would seem to mean no indoor concerts until a vaccine is developed or the disease disappears or virtually disappears to my way of thinking but things seem to change rapidly

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on May 28, 2020, 01:09:17 pm
- Pa. House Democrats say they were in the dark for a week about Republican’s positive coronavirus test (https://www.inquirer.com/news/spl/pennsylvania-legislator-positive-coronavirus-20200527.html)
- ‘Callous liars’: Pennsylvania Democrats say GOP put them at risk by hiding member’s positive covid-19 test (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/28/pennsylvania-coronavirus-test-republican/)

this.

is.

FUCKED.

PA replublicans knew that one of their members was positive for covid-19.  instead of telling everyone and going into isolation, GOP leadership kept it quiet (other than informing their own members and staff, natch) - they continued to meet in committees, for over a week, to pass "everything is ok so let's reopen the state" legislation.  only in america can partisanship be deadly, so often.

Dem PA congressman is MAD ABOUT IT (https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=683102628927090&ref=watch_permalink). visceral.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 28, 2020, 01:20:19 pm
Dang, that brian sims video was HOT
I think the GOP has been truly evil on this topic and acting like "Dems hate freedom" because they are trying to protect people from a deadly virus
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 28, 2020, 03:13:25 pm
Dang, that brian sims video was HOT
I think the GOP has been truly evil on this topic and acting like "Dems hate freedom" because they are trying to protect people from a deadly virus

My wife was just on the couch using "Brian Sims" and "hot" in the same sentence. I wasn't sure what she was going on about.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on May 28, 2020, 07:17:42 pm
Dang, that brian sims video was HOT
I think the GOP has been truly evil on this topic and acting like "Dems hate freedom" because they are trying to protect people from a deadly virus


My wife was just on the couch using "Brian Sims" and "hot" in the same sentence. I wasn't sure what she was going on about.

yo space, sounds like the oven is warm... get it while it's hot!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 29, 2020, 08:57:10 am
Is anyone else who is teleworking now working on their argument for why they should never have to go back to the office?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Vas Deferens on May 29, 2020, 09:45:49 am
no, don't you miss the office environment ?

Is anyone else who is teleworking now working on their argument for why they should never have to go back to the office?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 29, 2020, 09:50:26 am
no, don't you miss the office environment ?

Is anyone else who is teleworking now working on their argument for why they should never have to go back to the office?
not at all!  I personally like who I work with and like interacting with humans face to face
I really miss the 5-minute conversations about GOT or Trump's latest or where they went on vacation or what college their kid got into
and sharing that same kind of info with them
Only argument would be I should be able to work remotely whenever I want (as long as it doesn't impact work)
Which opens up the 3-week vacation stuff with family.  Where we travel to some great state park, I work 3 full days while the others going on some adventures.  Then at 5 PM I'm in Yellowstone and can enjoy a 5 day vacation Then we move to anothe location and I work for 3 days and do it all again, this time at Glacier National park.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 29, 2020, 10:14:21 am
no, don't you miss the office environment ?

Is anyone else who is teleworking now working on their argument for why they should never have to go back to the office?

I have the kind of job where i don't really every physically need to be in the office. And though I'm not a social butterfly and usually keep to myself at work, I do miss being around my co-workers. Not to the extent that I'd actually want to take public transport or unnecessarily be indoors with other people at this point, but i miss being around others. And going out for a beer after work and exchanging small talk with the bartender or people next to me.

My wife, otoh, is trying to make the case for never going back to the office. To the "I'm going to quit my job if they don't agree to it" extent. Not out of fear of COVID, but because she thinks there is no reason to ever physically be in an office, and due to her dread of commuting and being around people. She also thinks that the "new normal" is going to create situations where after commuting an hour each way you have to choose between waiting in a long line to ride the elevator solo or climbing eight flights of stairs, just to go to your office where you're required to wear a mask for eight hours, when instead you can get 11 hours of work done at home with no mask. To that end, i think she had a point.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on May 29, 2020, 10:19:17 am
no, don't you miss the office environment ?

Is anyone else who is teleworking now working on their argument for why they should never have to go back to the office?
not at all!  I personally like who I work with and like interacting with humans face to face
I really miss the 5-minute conversations about GOT or Trump's latest or where they went on vacation or what college their kid got into
and sharing that same kind of info with them
Only argument would be I should be able to work remotely whenever I want (as long as it doesn't impact work)
Which opens up the 3-week vacation stuff with family.  Where we travel to some great state park, I work 3 full days while the others going on some adventures.  Then at 5 PM I'm in Yellowstone and can enjoy a 5 day vacation Then we move to anothe location and I work for 3 days and do it all again, this time at Glacier National park.

Your thought process regarding working vacations is totally up my alley. We're holding onto reservations for an August  driiving vacation we planned pre-COVID. But our destination state has a 14 day quarantine arrival directive in place through August....which if maintained, will cause us to cancel. So my thought was....if we're still teleworking and school is still distance learning, we could still go to our destination in September and combine work/school/vacation all into one. The other half thinks that idea is absolutely bonkers.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 01, 2020, 07:40:51 am
Since we could all use some good news this Monday morning, I'll share this...

New Coronavirus Losing Potency, Top Italian Doctor Says

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/05/31/world/europe/31reuters-health-coronavirus-italy-virus.html
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on June 01, 2020, 09:30:53 am
Is anyone else who is teleworking now working on their argument for why they should never have to go back to the office?
I’ve been presenting this as an idea in my company for three years and this forced “trial” will probably be the thing that pushes it across the finish line. (I personally will still likely go in daily.)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on June 01, 2020, 09:35:23 am
My wife, otoh, is trying to make the case for never going back to the office. To the "I'm going to quit my job if they don't agree to it" extent. Not out of fear of COVID, but because she thinks there is no reason to ever physically be in an office, and due to her dread of commuting and being around people. She also thinks that the "new normal" is going to create situations where after commuting an hour each way you have to choose between waiting in a long line to ride the elevator solo or climbing eight flights of stairs, just to go to your office where you're required to wear a mask for eight hours, when instead you can get 11 hours of work done at home with no mask. To that end, i think she had a point.
This is pretty spot on. I would also add companies that mandate in-office workers often miss out on the contributions of parents with child care issues (predominately, but not entirely, women) and disabled individuals for whom commuting is often difficult. There is a huge swath of talented female business leaders (and again, some men) who want families who are effectively sidelined for a decade+ of their career and have their their talent untapped by companies in the name of mandatory in-office work. This is a market inefficiency that is ripe for exploiting.

I also have a lot of thoughts on batch payroll methodology but I'll save that for another day.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 01, 2020, 09:37:01 am
I also have a lot of thoughts on batch payroll methodology but I'll save that for another day.
Let's just consider that matter settled
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on June 01, 2020, 10:16:13 am
I'd trade 2 hours of my daily commute for ever having to see my co-workers ever again.  Fuck-em.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 01, 2020, 10:43:04 am
I just don’t know enough to understand Covid19

I hope it’s losing its potency and spreads less easily than previously thought


The Italian health authorities have discredited that physician’s statements but who the hell knows
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on June 01, 2020, 10:48:00 am
I just don’t know enough to understand Covid19

I hope it’s losing its potency and spreads less easily than previously thought


The Italian health authorities have discredited that physician’s statements but who the hell knows

I think the news-cycle has passed Covid... Time for bigger issues (which I agree with), but will also likely be forgotten in a few weeks.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 01, 2020, 11:14:19 am
Bigger issues than 150,000 dead in two months and millions of infected people?


I agree the news cycle passes everything by but that says more about us and our society than the relative bigness of an issue


I know a woman who lives in a retirement community in Silver Spring area...her two neighbors- one next to her apartment and one in front have died from Covid19..last I heard over 30 people in the complex (it’s very big) had died from covid

We may wish to ignore it and carry on...again that says more about us than the issue..I guess it’s just capitulation..we can’t figure out how to deal with it so let’s ignore it...a. colossal failure


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on June 01, 2020, 11:41:42 am
Bigger issues than 150,000 dead in two months and millions of infected people?


100's of years of systemic racism in the US is a bigger issue for me than Covid... not saying Covid isn't a big issue, but this is bigger in my humble opinion.

For a change of scenery after three months of not leaving our neighborhood, we went to western PA last week to see my parents. They live in a county where there have been approximately 10 cases. The town will most likely cease to exist if current conditions economically continue. This is just one example of extreme measures that make absolute zero sense. I'm not saying every area should open up and I think that's extremely irresponsible, but this virus is killing people in many other ways that just sickness (which has been covered in this thread before).
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on June 01, 2020, 11:55:00 am
100's of years of systemic racism in the US is a bigger issue for me than Covid... not saying Covid isn't a big issue, but this is bigger in my humble opinion.
Fully agree.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 01, 2020, 12:18:40 pm
Obviously it’s all about equilibrium


And a person can walk and chew gum at same time


The idea we should ignore covid19 or move on because of systemic racism is fill in blank




We can’t wave some magic wand or enact a ten point plan to end systemic racism

It’s a cultural issue and culture is the hardest thing to change.

We can recognize the issue and work to address it but any real change will be here long after we are all dead.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 01, 2020, 12:54:21 pm
Bigger issues than 150,000 dead in two months and millions of infected people?


100's of years of systemic racism in the US is a bigger issue for me than Covid... not saying Covid isn't a big issue, but this is bigger in my humble opinion.

For a change of scenery after three months of not leaving our neighborhood, we went to western PA last week to see my parents. They live in a county where there have been approximately 10 cases. The town will most likely cease to exist if current conditions economically continue. This is just one example of extreme measures that make absolute zero sense. I'm not saying every area should open up and I think that's extremely irresponsible, but this virus is killing people in many other ways that just sickness (which has been covered in this thread before).

I plan on driving to see my family next month in upstate NY. My brother remains unemployed after being laid off 2.5 months ago. He lives in a county with 100K people. So far, 133 cases, 0 deaths, and 9200 private sector jobs lost in April (alone).
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 01, 2020, 01:32:20 pm
new way to ride elevators
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZbXObcXgAEDNZi?format=jpg&name=large)
now even harder to tell who dealt it
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on June 02, 2020, 01:20:51 pm
Why did the chicken cross the road?

To pose for a blasphemous photo op at St. John's Episcopal Church.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 02, 2020, 01:57:59 pm
Spain, 0 deaths yesterday, 2 the day before.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 03, 2020, 09:42:18 am

Vaccine coming


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-06-03-20-intl/h_d9360b4e277953a4490fa5ee17285938
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on June 03, 2020, 12:10:18 pm
Vaccine coming

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-06-03-20-intl/h_d9360b4e277953a4490fa5ee17285938

this candidate vaccine is looking promising, but it's still just a candidate...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 03, 2020, 12:21:47 pm
Eh multiple candidates
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on June 03, 2020, 12:36:54 pm
Eh multiple candidates
What is this, a chess tournament?

HIYOOOOOO
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 03, 2020, 01:31:15 pm

Vaccine coming


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-06-03-20-intl/h_d9360b4e277953a4490fa5ee17285938

My wife is going to hate this news if it means she'll have to go into the office on a regular basis.

I kid, partially.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 08, 2020, 12:49:54 pm
Wow nothing on this thread in five days

Says a lot

Anyways it seems like the US has finally broken the back of this scourge

About 300 dead from it reported yesterday..lowest number since late March..

It only took 112,000 lives (reported) + around 50,000 unreported, snd shutting down the nation with tens of millions losing their jobs (most I think will get them back) but we finally seem to have things somewhat under control

I assume people will keep dying from it but in decreasing numbers

How badly was this bungled? Boggles the mind...they told people not to wear face masks for months!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 08, 2020, 01:08:43 pm
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but i wouldn't say broken the back yet. 373 yesterday, but that's a Sunday count. I'd expect double that on weekdays this week.

Hopefully we are not opening too much too soon. And hopefully people will wear masks indoors, everywhere. And stay 6+ feet apart. Some communities seem to take the mask and distance things more seriously than others.

I think there's also going to be lots of crazy ass modifications to the school experience in the Fall. My kid is already bitching about it.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 08, 2020, 01:26:12 pm
A look at what schools will be like in Massachusetts, in the Fall. Maximum of 10 students in a classroom at one time. How is that going to work?

https://www.wcvb.com/article/guidance-offers-glimpse-at-what-massachusetts-schools-will-look-like-come-fall/32800400
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on June 08, 2020, 04:09:34 pm
And hopefully people will wear masks indoors, everywhere. And stay 6+ feet apart. Some communities seem to take the mask and distance things more seriously than others.

there is some serious pandemic fatigue going on.  i live in the kind of place that you'd think would adhere to medical recommendations (this region has been traumatized by the early days of the pandemic), but at this weekend's BLM protest folks were not maintaining 6 feet - and not even trying.  everyone did have a mask on and it was outside, so overall the risk was low... but organizers made of a point of asking everyone to keep 6' apart, and that never happened.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 08, 2020, 04:15:15 pm
Agree...serious pandemic fatigue

I think soon we just have to get on with it but with some new procedures in place and virus weakening I don’t think deaths will spike back up

Key is preventing super spreader events
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 08, 2020, 04:32:08 pm
Agree...serious pandemic fatigue

I think soon we just have to get on with it but with some new procedures in place and virus weakening I don’t think deaths will spike back up

Key is preventing super spreader events

Which means bands better start hiring themselves out to play church services and BLM rallies because those are the only large group gatherings that seem to be allowed...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 09, 2020, 09:26:13 pm
1093 US deaths today. Still got a long way to go to knock this out. And nobody seems to die in Spain anymore. Maybe they don't keep track anymore.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 10, 2020, 10:07:10 am
Down to 439 new cases yesterday in Virginia


Our region is rocking it...we did pretty good in the end
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 10, 2020, 10:10:06 am
+63 DC
+561 MD

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 10, 2020, 10:30:04 am
Down to 439 new cases yesterday in Virginia


Our region is rocking it...we did pretty good in the end

At Northam's presser yesterday (I tuned in to see what he had to say about schools), he said to expect big number of cases soon...because they had recently increased testing and there was a backlog of results.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 11, 2020, 02:04:01 pm
Arlington is opening-up

arlingtonva@ArlingtonVA
Under Phase 2, restaurant and beverage establishments may offer indoor dining at 50 percent occupancy, fitness centers may open indoor areas at 30 percent occupancy and certain recreation and entertainment venues without shared equipment may open with restrictions.
The County is reopening its dog parks, basketball courts and volleyball courts on Friday, June 12, for people who practice social distancing and follow posted guidelines.


They can't just say bars...beverage establishments?!

entertainment venues without shared equipment ....so does this mean the Brothels will stay closed?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on June 11, 2020, 02:23:59 pm
There are no bars in Virginia — they’re all classed restaurants. Beverage establishments refers to breweries/wineries/distilleries/etc.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Yada on June 11, 2020, 02:47:21 pm


entertainment venues without shared equipment ....so does this mean the Brothels will stay closed?

Hey Seth <<<<<<<<<
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 11, 2020, 04:09:39 pm
Prince George's County Phase 2 on Monday (https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/2020/06/prince-georges-county-to-enter-phase-two-on-monday/)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 12, 2020, 10:04:36 am
Covid-19 Patient Gets Double Lung Transplant, Offering Hope for Others (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/health/coronavirus-lung-transplant.html)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 14, 2020, 07:49:09 pm
Why have there been no reported COVID-19 deaths in Spain for a week?

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1689226/world
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 14, 2020, 10:36:12 pm
I just don’t think we know how this virus works but it seems to ravage and then weaken and not spread as easily


It’s really a mystery..the medical community has proved worse than useless on covid..they do not have a clue

But I have seen enough to say that countries where the curve falls need to reopen with certain caveats initially like

1. Limit super spreader events (ie no conferences, concerts, packed subway cars, packed stadiums, packed bars, etc)...common sense
2. More vulnerable populations should self quarantine
3. Continue widespread testing and do tracing when people test positive
4. People should continue to wear masks and social distance where possible

I think though most people should get back to relative normal and in a month we revisit where we are..of course this means some people will die that wouldn’t all things being equal if we all stay home...but all things aren’t equal..many people need to work...if people don’t vacation entire communities will be harmed.. it’s about balance..finding a reasonable equilibrium

I am talking about the US where today we had about 300 deaths... as opposed to the peak of 3000..I know everyone is predicting a terrible second wave...but I don’t see that happening
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 15, 2020, 08:06:02 am
I hope you are right, about the second wave.

326 deaths on Worldometers for the Sunday undercount. I expect it to be back up on the high triple digits by mid-week, but yes, it's great that those numbers continue to trend lower. Last Sunday it was 375 (then went up above 1000 again Tues or Wed, then back down high triple digits.)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on June 15, 2020, 09:29:38 am
I know everyone is predicting a terrible second wave...but I don’t see that happening

Science Based Medicine says that a second wave may not be terrible, as long as people keep social distancing, wearing masks, staying home...

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/covid-19-the-second-wave/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2020, 09:44:32 am
Science Based Medicine
I like my medicine fantasy-based, can we get some from 'both sides'

I'm also looking for a gut-feeling based news source
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on June 15, 2020, 09:50:41 am
You'd be surprised at how easy it is to find that...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 15, 2020, 10:09:08 am
Science based is fine..limiting yourself to listening to epidemiologists not so much


You have to look at things from all angles not just epidemiology

If you just listen to epidemiologists you won’t open up til 2023

Let’s remember why we shut down..to flatten the curve and get ourselves -our infrastructure-ready to deal...we didn’t shut down with the goal of eliminating all covid death forever



Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 15, 2020, 10:35:54 am
Science based is fine..limiting yourself to listening to epidemiologists not so much


You have to look at things from all angles not just epidemiology

If you just listen to epidemiologists you won’t open up til 2023

Let’s remember why we shut down..to flatten the curve and get ourselves -our infrastructure-ready to deal...we didn’t shut down with the goal of eliminating all covid death forever

Hey look, it's me, logging onto my Hutch account.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 15, 2020, 10:38:52 am
Except you were saying we should open before we had flattened the curve. Your view was to reopen months ago..hell not even shut down schools


We would have never flattened the curve with that approach, smarty pants

Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 15, 2020, 10:41:35 am
I won’t even get into the horrible stuff you posted about older people...

I have to say I lost respect for you. You showed yourself to be a very small and selfish “man”
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on June 15, 2020, 11:23:28 am
You have to look at things from all angles not just epidemiology

Incorrect.  I had a coworker try to convince me that you can protect yourself from COVID-19 by eating elderberries and drinking pineapple juice.  You do not have to consider this point of view, as it is not based on science.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 15, 2020, 11:32:10 am
Well I think you are incorrect

You do have to take into account people’s lost jobs and hundreds of other negative consequences from shutting down


Balance / equilibrium are the key


Look at Argentina..they have shut down the economy since early March

Now people were struggling to begin with...you can’t expect people to continue to stay home forever.. they won’t have anything to eat eventually






Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 15, 2020, 11:39:00 am
Except you were saying we should open before we had flattened the curve. Your view was to reopen months ago..hell not even shut down schools


We would have never flattened the curve with that approach, smarty pants

Of you are referring to my comments on page 23 of this thread, please go back and re-read. I was questioning things, not providing a definitive timeline or answers.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2020, 11:41:35 am
Well I'm not agreeing that your co-worker's solution is right, but being metabolically healthy (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-does-it-mean-to-be-metabolically-healthy) is key to COVID survival
most who are dying have: Obesity, hypertension, diabetus and such


Elderberries are chockfull of antioxidants such as vitamins A and C and various flavonoids and there are some studis saying it can reduce (not prevent) the lenght of colds/flu..
So there are benefits in being a healthy supplement and providing gut health, but I would not say a specific covid remedy

I'd be a little skeptical of Pineapple juice...as it's tons of sugar
so unless you fresh squeeze it, you are not getting all the said benefits and mostly sugar
it does have some interesting properties and in small doses has lots of pluses
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Space Freely on June 15, 2020, 11:55:00 am
This idea of kids going to school for one or two days a week is going to be a mess. Especially for the two earner families with younger children
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on June 15, 2020, 12:03:20 pm
Well I'm not agreeing that your co-worker's solution is right, but being metabolically healthy (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-does-it-mean-to-be-metabolically-healthy) is key to COVID survival
most who are dying have: Obesity, hypertension, diabetus and such


Elderberries are chockfull of antioxidants such as vitamins A and C and various flavonoids and there are some studis saying it can reduce (not prevent) the lenght of colds/flu..
So there are benefits in being a healthy supplement and providing gut health, but I would not say a specific covid remedy

I'd be a little skeptical of Pineapple juice...as it's tons of sugar
so unless you fresh squeeze it, you are not getting all the said benefits and mostly sugar
it does have some interesting properties and in small doses has lots of pluses

Antioxidants are not helpful in large quantities. This is a myth you can easily learn about with a simple google search. People just assumed that if a little is good, then a lot must be better.  Sadly, the human body doesn't work that way.  It's more accurate to think of free radicals and antioxidants as being part of a homeostatic system.  I could rant on this for hours, but you'd have to be willing to be educated on the topic for it to be worthwhile.

tl;dr - don't believe the hype when it comes to antioxidants
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 15, 2020, 12:06:08 pm
Sidehatch has a side of him that is into this gooblegook

I think he gets it from his wife but could be wrong

I recall telling him years ago my kid was on autism spectrum and him suggesting a gluten free diet
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on June 15, 2020, 12:12:01 pm
This is why I prefer science-based medicine.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 15, 2020, 12:14:16 pm
I prefer science based medicine too


But the issue with the covid crisis is it’s not just a science issue...


Covid is a science issue.... the crisis is not

Epidemiologists seem to miss that point
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: rich_WDC on June 15, 2020, 12:32:46 pm
Covid is a science issue.... the crisis is not

This is such a key notion and integral in how we and those in legislative, support, and oversight roles need to figure out everything.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2020, 12:37:17 pm
of course science

...but food is medicine
gut health is critical to overall health
the biggest killers are the disease's that if people could prevent with a healthy diet
people just want a pill and not have to work to be healthy
most of these diseases take decades to kill...but layer COVID on top...deadly in weeks

Antioxidants are not helpful in large quantities.

I could rant on this for hours, but you'd have to be willing to be educated on the topic for it to be worthwhile.
I never said that they were helpful in large quantities (chockfull I guess where you get that?)
but there are benefits and there have been studies


Honestly, the best way to get them is through food, but sometimes supplements are warranted

I'd be happy to hear your 'rants' on nutrition, but not sure others would be as excited
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on June 15, 2020, 12:43:47 pm
Food isn't medicine.

Food is food. Medicine is medicine.

You can kill yourself with food, or you can feed yourself with food.

The "gut health" craze was based on a preliminary study that hasn't really played itself out. Marketers and new age con men jumped on that idea and flooded the market with unsupported claims and dubious products.  Doesn't mean there isn't something there, but it does mean that you should rely on credible scientific sources if you want to learn more about it. And definitely don't rely on "natural news" or purveyors of probiotics.  You're likely to be duped into handing over your money for snake oil.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2020, 12:45:58 pm
Marketers and new age con men jumped on that idea and flooded the market with unsupported claims and dubious products.  ....  You're likely to be duped into handing over your money for snake oil.
I 100% agree on this

but I think that eating food that is overly processed, lacks actual nutrition and is high in sugar is going to kill you faster

I disagree with your take on gut health...
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: sweetcell on June 15, 2020, 12:57:28 pm
This is why I prefer science-based medicine.
(https://i.redd.it/9u2786ka6q351.jpg)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Vas Deferens on June 15, 2020, 01:33:09 pm
https://popculture.com/country-music/news/kid-rocks-nashville-bar-given-citation-violating-covid-19-health-orders/
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on June 15, 2020, 02:04:20 pm
I disagree with your take on gut health...

Oh, is that based on science?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2020, 02:12:32 pm
I disagree with your take on gut health...

Oh, is that based on science?
my gut ;)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 15, 2020, 02:31:47 pm
You did set him up heilung!!
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2020, 02:38:02 pm
I disagree with your take on gut health...

Oh, is that based on science?
my gut ;)

Does this work
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3983973/  2013

Nevertheless, as the critical role of the heretofore “ignored organ”—the gut microbiota—in health and disease has come to be recognized, so has the possibility that modifying the flora might be of therapeutic benefit.


I will add this was said too
. These factors must be taken into account when interpreting changes in the microbiota reported in disease states, and caution should be exercised in attributing a causative role to microbial changes seen in any disease state until much more is known of the primacy of these changes in that disorder.


Here is another NIH one
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7196170/
Linking gut microbiota with the human diseases  Feb 2020
The relationship between the host metabolism and the human gut has been discussed using known data in literature in this review. It showed differences in the gut microbiota contribution among different host causing dysbiosis leading to various form of diseases in human
Data on the composition of microbiota and its contribution will help link with potential diseases and its cause for effective combat and care.
Application of microbiota-based treatment, prognosis, diagnosis, and monitoring will exhibit great role in transforming the current treatment in disease management.




Again I 100% agree there are a lot of snake oil salesmen out there

Although...wish I'd read this one Snake Oil years ago
Massaging your hair with snake-oil can prevent hair loss and split ends. (https://www.happenings.com.ng/latest/2020/02/14/8-amazing-benefits-of-snake-oil)
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on June 15, 2020, 02:45:36 pm
There's so much hedgey language in the abstract, the rest of the study is barely worth reading.  The short answer is that the study is pointing to some interesting preliminary findings, but there's nothing solid there that suggests any conclusion.


Which is fair. That's how science works. We notice something. We study it. It either does what we thought or it doesn't.  We're still in the "noticing something" phase.


That's not stopping people from selling you pre-biotics, though, or you buying them.


Although the latter approach is still in its infancy, some important insights have already been gained about how the microbiota might influence a number of disease processes both within and distant from the gut. These discoveries also lay the groundwork for the development of therapeutic strategies that might modify the microbiota (eg, through the use of probiot-ics). Although this area holds much promise, more high-quality trials...are needed, as well as laboratory investigations of their mechanisms of action.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2020, 02:48:43 pm
TLDR...the science community (not just the natural heath people) is taking a very hard look at gut health and disease
yes no conclusions yet, but things are pointing in that direction

BTW...I don't buy pro-biotics, I try to eat fermented vegetables (that aren't pasteurized) to maintain my gut health.  Wish I could make my homemade ones taste as good as the pros
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2020, 02:58:35 pm
this was a poignant tweet
Paul Krugman@paulkrugman
Not really surprised. But it is ominous. Mask-wearing has become part of a culture war that will probably end up killing more Americans than most of our real wars.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on June 15, 2020, 03:40:25 pm
BTW...I don't buy pro-biotics, I try to eat fermented vegetables.

Its the same faulty assumption.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2020, 04:45:24 pm
BTW...I don't buy pro-biotics, I try to eat fermented vegetables.

Its the same faulty assumption.
Man, the NIH is really against this..

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6567126/   2019
Health-Promoting Components in Fermented Foods: An Up-to-Date Systematic Review



At the moment, reference to fermented foods as being health-promoting is common. They contain health-promoting components, can be used as a probiotic carrier, can contribute to the diversity of gut microbiome, and indirectly impact on mental health and other disorders. The early introduction of fermented foods in the diet has been supposed to lessen children desire to over-consume sweet foods [126]. Sugar preference may be tied, in fact, to the bacteria in the gut and children get their gut microbioma from the early stage of their life.

Nonetheless there is a lack of solid scientific foundations of such claims and there is still a need for fundamental research on randomized, controlled, clinical trials to measure the quantitative repeatable effects of fermented foods in the different groups of the populations to eventually justify their inclusion on national food guidelines.

4. Conclusions

During food fermentation, a number of chemical changes occur in the components of the raw matrix, which thus results in products with improved nutritional properties and healthy effects. A higher bioactive molecule content and an improved antioxidant activity were found in fermented milks, cereals, fruit and vegetables, meat and fish.

Fermented foods can also influence human well-being. The intake of fermented foods and probiotics and the subsequent enhancement of the gut microbiome may have a modulatory effect on the brain and the central nervous system.

The occurrence of healthy components and the activity thereof make fermented foods worthy of recommendation of regular consumption and inclusion in worldwide dietary guidelines. There is however a need for research on clinical trials to measure the effects of fermented foods in the different groups of the population..



But they are seeing a lot of evidence and need to do more studies...so I'd say things are looking good in early studies for my case

My only ask is the raw materials and processes matter
if they are getting their fermented stuff from a mass-produced corporation, I am a little suspect
I just am, they are only concerned with profit, not actual nutrition

What is also missing is the unintended consumption of MASSIVE amounts of anti-biotics from factory-farmed animals that the majority of Americans are eating on the daily
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on June 15, 2020, 05:40:43 pm
What is also missing is the unintended consumption of MASSIVE amounts of anti-biotics from factory-farmed animals that the majority of Americans are eating on the daily

I'm not aware of any consequences to humans based on this. You'd think we'd all be growing horns or something.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2020, 05:51:47 pm
What is also missing is the unintended consumption of MASSIVE amounts of anti-biotics from factory-farmed animals that the majority of Americans are eating on the daily

I'm not aware of any consequences to humans based on this. You'd think we'd all be growing horns or something.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3194830/

There is no doubt that human misuse and overuse of antibiotics are large contributors to resistance, particularly in relation to bacteria associated with human infection

Not horns, but definitely impacting our guts, making us sicker and less resilient to fight off infection


Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2020, 05:55:19 pm
this is good news (for the DMV)...right?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EalZIl7WAAEf4cp?format=jpg&name=medium)

the death numbers have been better, lately. 7-day average now at ~700, down from ~2,000 at the peak.
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Off-season Santa on June 15, 2020, 06:27:38 pm
What is also missing is the unintended consumption of MASSIVE amounts of anti-biotics from factory-farmed animals that the majority of Americans are eating on the daily

I'm not aware of any consequences to humans based on this. You'd think we'd all be growing horns or something.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3194830/

There is no doubt that human misuse and overuse of antibiotics are large contributors to resistance, particularly in relation to bacteria associated with human infection

Not horns, but definitely impacting our guts, making us sicker and less resilient to fight off infection




I mean, is there a pandemic of bacterial infections?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 16, 2020, 12:58:17 pm
I mean, is there a pandemic of bacterial infections?
I'm not good at stats or a Dr, but sounds like it to me
According to the report, more than 2.8 million antibiotic-resistant infections occur in the U.S. each year, and more than 35,000 people die as a result.

https://www.cdc.gov/drugresistance/biggest-threats.html

although, really can't trust the CDC either...fake science
and 35k deaths isn't really a pandemic, so probably not a worthy thing to be concerned about

...your serve
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: hutch on June 16, 2020, 01:09:36 pm
Getting some 🍿
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 16, 2020, 01:49:01 pm
Getting some 🍿
Man was getting ready to tell you how you were going to die from eating microwave popcorn....but sadly according to the FDA
the chemicals that were once in microwave popcorn and its packaging have been linked to cancer and lung disease. But these ingredients have since been removed from most commercial brands.

so that argument would have work in 2007

although...you should still use an air popper or cook on the stove with olive oil/coconut oil
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on June 16, 2020, 02:14:33 pm
Guys, what if I eat kimchi but just because it’s tasty and not for implied health reasons?
Title: Re: COVID-19 2020
Post by: I am the Cuttlefish ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 16, 2020, 02:16:30 pm
Guys, what if I eat kimchi but just because it’s tasty and not for implied health reasons?
yikes and I  love me some spicy kimchi!

The researchers, all South Korean, report that kimchi and other spicy and fermented foods could be linked to the most common cancer among Koreans. Rates of gastric cancer among Koreans and Japanese are 10 times higher than in the United States.



also as we all know...if you look it up on the internet...it will kill you :)
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