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The bill would distribute up to $1,200 to Americans in the form of a one-time direct deposit, $2,400 for couples, and $3,000 for family of four.
So families of 3...Gov't is saying you should have had more kids
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Sadly, pay off debt
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Space is going to be outraged
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And a family of 6?
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And a family of 6?
What I'd do... is see if you can convince two of your kids to get married to one another
then you could bag $5400!
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I think the details are yet unknown really
But depends on income and you get $500 per child
So maybe 4 person fam would be $2400 plus $1000 but depends on income
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I think the details are yet unknown really
this is true...details are not availble yet
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Palindrome post
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Where are your plans Sidehatch? Seems like you should answer your question!
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Not getting one.
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Where are your plans Sidehatch? Seems like you should answer your question!
well there is some debt to pay down as well (lot of it at 0%, but would just rather it be gone then looming out there)
Can't really buy concert tickets or make vacation plans
Some money has to go into needed car/home repairs
Kids keep growing so some shoes and clothes too
The Airstream Bathroom needs a makeover
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Not getting one.
because you are a bot?
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Not getting one.
because you are a bot?
Because it appears there's a (EDIT) $198k/couple limit after which you don't even get a reduced check. But yes, bot income.
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However, the payments would start to phase out for individuals with adjusted gross incomes of more than $75,000, and those making more than $99,000 would not qualify at all. The thresholds are doubled for couples.
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Space is going to be outraged
Just missed the household cutoff for getting one, but as long as we both get to keep our jobs, not at all outraged.
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Space is going to be outraged
Just missed the household cutoff for getting one, but as long as we both get to keep our jobs, not at all outraged.
Yeah, agreed. I'm in healthcare with zero chance of this impacting anything other than an annual bonus so I can't get bent over this at all. I don't really need it.
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This seems kind of unfair to the go-getters who made more money in 2019 and who already filed their taxes:
The phase-out for top earners will be done using 2019 tax returns or 2018 returns if the taxpayer in question hasn’t filed their 2019 taxes yet.
Note: I haven't filed my taxes, so this is not me whining.
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Oh, I just realized our adjusted gross income may be below the cutoff. Will have to check.
But anyway, why are they sending Americans cash? Shouldn't it be tied to job loss? Is the point that they just want us to spend more money to try to keep the economy afloat?
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Is the point that they just want us to spend more money to try to keep the economy afloat?
yes
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Oh, I just realized our adjusted gross income may be below the cutoff. Will have to check.
Oh, that's interesting especially if they'll use my 2018 figure instead of 2019 if my tax guy hasn't sent it off yet.
I do think this should be a bit more tied to local economies. $200k in Richmond is a significantly different amount of money than $200k in DC which is a significantly different amount of money than $200k in Vansmack Country.
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Also so people don’t start burning and looting
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Space is going to be outraged
Just missed the household cutoff for getting one, but as long as we both get to keep our jobs, not at all outraged.
Correction: Will be getting some stimulus money, so won't be looting and burning.
Not sure that I'll be spending it all though. My daughter can no longer nag my wife into taking her on Saturday shopping sprees, and I'm likely to drink down my beer supply rather than go shopping for more.
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Now we have details...
Direct payments: Americans will receive a one-time direct deposit of up to $1,200, and married couples will get $2,400, plus an additional $500 per child. The payments will be available for incomes up to $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 for married couples. This is true even for those who have no income, as well as those whose income comes entirely from non-taxable, means-tested benefit programs, such as Social Security.
Obviously some of the means-tested stuff is not in here
So since most of you live in the DMV and top these caps...likely getting very little
But you likely have a mortgage?
The bill would allow homeowners with federally backed mortgage loans to request loan forbearance—that is, delayed payment—for an initial period of 180 days, and that forbearance could be extended for another 180-day period if necessary.
Although, technically this is not a 'deal' at all, just pushes out payments without penatiles, but you still cover the interest crrued durring that time...Meaning, overtime you spent more money to get that 6 month break. But six months of not paying your mortgage would likely help people create a nice nest egg/saftey net or pay down other high interest loans
Hopefully not create a rush to by a new Harley or SeeDoo
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So delayed payments, not skipped payments. So you can skip this month and pay double next month with interest? Sounds like a trap.
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interest continues to accrue during forbearance, putting payments on ice will cause debt to grow rather than diminish
I wouldn't say it's a trap, but should only be used if you can't make the payments, (as in the end you pay more)
not so you can blow the money supporting your favorite TikTok weblebrity
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I guess the mortgage payment delays are there to help folks who aren’t eligible for the payout? I guess that’s good.
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Now we have details...
Direct payments: Americans will receive a one-time direct deposit of up to $1,200, and married couples will get $2,400, plus an additional $500 per child. The payments will be available for incomes up to $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 for married couples. This is true even for those who have no income, as well as those whose income comes entirely from non-taxable, means-tested benefit programs, such as Social Security.
Obviously some of the means-tested stuff is not in here
So since most of you live in the DMV and top these caps...likely getting very little
But you likely have a mortgage?
The bill would allow homeowners with federally backed mortgage loans to request loan forbearance—that is, delayed payment—for an initial period of 180 days, and that forbearance could be extended for another 180-day period if necessary.
Although, technically this is not a 'deal' at all, just pushes out payments without penatiles, but you still cover the interest crrued durring that time...Meaning, overtime you spent more money to get that 6 month break. But six months of not paying your mortgage would likely help people create a nice nest egg/saftey net or pay down other high interest loans
Hopefully not create a rush to by a new Harley or SeeDoo
Check your tax statements. Those numbers are adjusted gross income, which is significantly less than gross salary.
Most people in the DMV make less than those limits...the median household income in Fairfax is 122K, Arlington is 104K, Montgomery is 108K, and DC is 85K. And the adjusted gross would be significantly less.
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have you ever even heard of this guy...Rep Thomas Massie KY
potentially jeopardizing passage of $2T stimulus package!
Already has my ire with statements like this
Thomas Massie @RepThomasMassie
Universal vote by mail would be the end of our republic as we know it.
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Massie's stunt also caught the eye of Donald Trump, who said Massie should be expelled from the GOP for his move.
Massie, for his part, has been downplaying COVID-19 and calling out the social distancing measures put in place to stop its spread...
"The greater harm to society is the public’s unquestioning acceptance of the unchecked authority of governments to force private behavior and disrupt economies," Massie tweeted on March 16, as the virus was starting to grow in the United States. "When this is over, I fear FDR's internment of Japanese-Americans is going to look like a 'light touch.'"
Dude is comparing the stay at home to the internment of Japanese-Americans!
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I just don’t see this stupidity in other places on our globe
In Argentina there is a massive stay at home order and everyone is on board..you don’t have voices denying science..or saying let the old all die so my kid can go to school and I don’t have to be around my lame wife working at home..if there is complaining it’s that government officials aren’t doing enough!
It’s making me wonder if I have underestimated the stupidity of the American people? How is that possible?
I mean this shit is embarrassing
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/coronavirus-stimulus-check-calculator/
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any one get it yet?
https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-stimulus-payments-1200-check-1497401
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any one get it yet?
https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-stimulus-payments-1200-check-1497401
How would they know where to direct deposit my stimulus check if we end up paying each year? Would they mail it?
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/11/politics/irs-coronavirus-stimulus-check-deposit/index.html
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IRS plans tool that will let you track the money (https://money.yahoo.com/coronavirus-stimulus-checks-irs-tool-lets-you-track-the-money-to-your-household-145659731.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_02)
The agency expects to release an online tool on its website by the end of the week that helps people track the status of their stimulus checks.
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Geezus the desperation for $1000 bucks
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Geezus the desperation for $1000 bucks
hey...this family of 4 is surely looking forward to the $3,400
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I'm not sure how much I'm getting...possibly $4,400 depending on how they count my oldest.
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I'm not sure how much I'm getting...possibly $4,400 depending on how they count my oldest.
You have four kids? *mind blown*
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I'm not sure how much I'm getting...possibly $4,400 depending on how they count my oldest.
You have four kids? *mind blown*
That i know of
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hopefully your plans for the check including paying back anything you owe the bank - because they're going to help themselves to your check anyways:
'Beyond Predatory': Trump Treasury Department Gives Banks Green Light to Seize $1,200 Stimulus Checks to Pay Off Debts (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/14/beyond-predatory-trump-treasury-department-gives-banks-green-light-seize-1200)
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hopefully your plans for the check including paying back anything you owe the bank - because they're going to help themselves to your check anyways:
'Beyond Predatory': Trump Treasury Department Gives Banks Green Light to Seize $1,200 Stimulus Checks to Pay Off Debts (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/14/beyond-predatory-trump-treasury-department-gives-banks-green-light-seize-1200)
I’ll play devils advocate on this one — if my bank account is overdrawn a hundred dollars and I get a $1200 paycheck, obviously my bank account will display $1100 as the bank makes themselves whole. Why should this be different?
And furthermore, wouldn’t a bank have to create a mechanism to do this? Taking a negative balance (how they mark your debt) and adding the new monies to it is their process for balancing the books. How does a bank document that you have this $1200!amount in your account and also now a second line item for your debt? What banking system is set to do that? It’s de facto creating a second account for anyone with a debt.
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They mean federal debt, or a court ordered collection. Taxes, child support, etc.
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They mean federal debt, or a court ordered collection. Taxes, child support, etc.
That is not what I took away from Sweets article.
EDIT: Just re-read. It specifically says federal debts are exempt and this is about debts to a bank, debt collectors, and child support.
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Checks delayed so that they can add president's name to them.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/coming-to-your-1200-relief-check-donald-j-trumps-name/2020/04/14/071016c2-7e82-11ea-8013-1b6da0e4a2b7_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/coming-to-your-1200-relief-check-donald-j-trumps-name/2020/04/14/071016c2-7e82-11ea-8013-1b6da0e4a2b7_story.html)
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They mean federal debt, or a court ordered collection. Taxes, child support, etc.
That is not what I took away from Sweets article.
EDIT: Just re-read. It specifically says federal debts are exempt and this is about debts to a bank, debt collectors, and child support.
Oh yeah, it would have helped if I had read the article!
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this was good
Gibby Resists Peach@SaintRobin911
If I wanted a check signed by tRump, I would have become a porn star.
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Check your bank account
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Check your bank account
The IRS website claims they don't have a record of me.
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Check your bank account
yep, same as it was before
I was curious, so went to the irs site...and this was the response I got
"It cannot determine the eligibility"
I was wondering why it asked me if I was a democrat or not?
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Oh...I’m sorry
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Maybe update your info
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/politics/get-my-payment-stimulus-checks-irs/index.html
Probably will turn up by Friday or you are getting a Trump check in a few months or there is a cock up or you are ineligible
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or there is a cock up or you are ineligible
Ok...let me hear more about this?
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That’s all I got
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I'm really stunned that not getting a stimulus check hasn't turned into a status symbol. Like where are all the ballers on social media posting like #200kLife or #NoStim or #StimSquadGoals? Like isn't telling people you didn't qualify for a stimulus check the strongest flex in years?
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I hear you but free money....people dig that shit..even rich people
It is pretty flexy
And living in Richmond
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I hear you but free money....people dig that shit..even rich people
the current administration was build on getting free money to rich people. took a global pandemic and some folks on the Hill who could see beyond their corporate overloads to Big Picture, to get anyone in DC to contemplate pushing some money down the chain.
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Payment Status Not Available
According to information that we have on file, we cannot determine your eligibility for a payment at this time.
For more information on the eligibility rules, see our Frequently Asked Questions page.
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not so you can blow the money supporting your favorite TikTok weblebrity
I don't know. These two deserve something....
https://www.tiktok.com/@scottyryan/video/6813558370000325893
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The IRS website claims they don't have a record of me.
That's the best news yet - screenshot it, don't pay come July 15 and if you get audited, send them that.
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your favorite TikTok weblebrity
I do just want to caution that many of these so-called weblebrities lack certifications.
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^ 10/10 throwback, would recommend.
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For Sidehatch and anyone else who hasn’t gotten their check
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/politics/why-didnt-i-get-my-stimulus-money/index.html
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For Sidehatch and anyone else who hasn’t gotten their check
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/politics/why-didnt-i-get-my-stimulus-money/index.html
yeah...1-5 don't apply to me
I guess that revnue from being a copy editor paid way more than I thought
used turbo tax (for like 8 years and the same exact bank account)
The deposit, planned for yesterday, was delayed for “several million” people who used popular services like H&R Block, Jackson Hewitt and TurboTax to file their taxes last year, according to The Washington Post. The issue? The IRS didn’t have their direct deposit information on file.
although this may be the reason
If you filed a 2018 and/or 2019 return and neither one had a refund coming, the IRS will mail you a stimulus check. The same holds true if these returns had a refund which was sent as a check.
I owed last year...Federal Tax Due: $31
So guess I'm getting the one with donnies signature on it
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We used TurboTax
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We used TurboTax
The thread for band names that should exist is over there.
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"The IRS cannot determine your eligibility"
FFS I've already spent this money 3 times over!!!
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"The IRS cannot determine your eligibility"
FFS I've already spent this money 3 times over!!!
I’m With you brother... maybe it has to do with my potato support
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Your Stimulus Check Comes with a letter from Donald Trump (https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/26/politics/stimulus-check-coronavirus-letter-donald-trump/index.html)
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I had plans to use the check (if it ever comes) on paying our taxes.
However, we had an emergency plumbing issue last week that set us back $2K+. Also got some pre-existing plumbing problems done since they were here. Both plumbers were so unmasked and my wife liked one of them so much she shook his hand as her departed.
No symptoms yet and our plumbing is performing great. So that's where our check is going. If we get it.
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Both plumbers were so unmasked and my wife liked one of them so much she shook his hand as her departed.
Look, I agree Kramer vs Kramer was a great film but that thread is over there.
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Both plumbers were so unmasked and my wife liked one of them so much she shook his hand as her departed.
Look, I agree Kramer vs Kramer was a great film but that thread is over there.
Would be a great opening for space’s great American classic
That last pronoun is a great twist
one is just always assuming the plumbers are men
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Talk about flushing $2000 down the toilet
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Both plumbers were so unmasked and my wife liked one of them so much she shook his hand as her departed.
Look, I agree Kramer vs Kramer was a great film but that thread is over there.
Nah, it's all good. He insisted he didn't have it and the second guy never came upstairs. I'm sure we're fine.
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All joking aside, if Space and Celeste ever divorce, I will feel like horseshit for joking it into existence.
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All joking aside, if Space and Celeste ever divorce, I will feel like horseshit for joking it into existence.
You may have caused this COVID shit to happen to the world, but your influence has it's limits.
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All joking aside, if Space and Celeste ever divorce, I will feel like horseshit for joking it into existence.
You may have caused this COVID shit to happen to the world, but your influence has it's limits.
Weird which of those you think is an example of influence having limits. . .
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FFS
You have to enter your address in ALL CAPS.
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FFS
You have to enter your address in ALL CAPS.
From what I read elsewhere you also need to match your most recent tax returns address nomenclature perfectly. If you listed it as "123 MAIN ST." on your taxes, "123 MAIN ST" or "123 MAIN STREET" will not work. People with unit #s add an extra level of confusion.
Basically try it every way possible.
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FFS
You have to enter your address in ALL CAPS.
From what I read elsewhere you also need to match your most recent tax returns address nomenclature perfectly. If you listed it as "123 MAIN ST." on your taxes, "123 MAIN ST" or "123 MAIN STREET" will not work. People with unit #s add an extra level of confusion.
Basically try it every way possible.
yeah I was putting st and I had it on my return as Street
But won't let me try again as I've tried too many times today
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Arlington Bro Poor Shamed for Qualifying for Stimulus Relief (https://thepeedmont.com/2020/04/27/arlington-consultant-bro-poor-shamed-for-qualifying-for-stimulus-relief/)
B+
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Maybe this helps
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/29/politics/stimulus-payment-checks-waiting/index.html
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What a shit show
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/01/irs-mistakenly-sends-stimulus-checks-to-foreign-workers-228974
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still haven't received mine...but dead people are getting them
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/06/851019441/the-irs-sent-coronavirus-relief-payments-to-dead-people
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I hope you don’t envy them?
Still
1. Foreigners
2. Dead people
3. Sidehatch
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1. Foreigners
2. Dead people
3. Sidehatch
Correct ranking of these records. Can confirm.
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1. Foreigners
2. Dead people
3. Sidehatch
Correct ranking of these records. Can confirm.
Ok...both these comments were A+
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1. Foreigners
2. Dead people
3. Sidehatch
Correct ranking of these records. Can confirm.
Ok people, I know you were all holding your breath on this one
I received the a US debit card with the expected amount
Was kinda looking forward to Donald's signature....but no suck luck
Very boring looking debit card, I'm just glad it didn't have Trumps mug on it with two thumbs up
(https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_22/3368206/200528-stimulus-debit-card-cs-454p_45a52e6282e8603e2cc5c13a75cbaf6d.fit-2000w.jpg)
Also I belive this to be true as I initially thought it was junk mail
People are accidentally throwing out their stimulus payments — because they look like junk mail (https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/people-are-accidentally-throwing-out-their-stimulus-check-because-it-n1216991)
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Hallelujah praise Jesus!!
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1. Foreigners
2. Dead people
3. Sidehatch
Correct ranking of these records. Can confirm.
Ok people, I know you were all holding your breath on this one
I received the a US debit card with the expected amount
Was kinda looking forward to Donald's signature....but no suck luck
Very boring looking debit card, I'm just glad it didn't have Trumps mug on it with two thumbs up
(https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_22/3368206/200528-stimulus-debit-card-cs-454p_45a52e6282e8603e2cc5c13a75cbaf6d.fit-2000w.jpg)
Also I belive this to be true as I initially thought it was junk mail
People are accidentally throwing out their stimulus payments — because they look like junk mail (https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/people-are-accidentally-throwing-out-their-stimulus-check-because-it-n1216991)
I had to use the Google when I got mine because it seemed like a scam.
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Is this debit card in addition to the direct deposit in mid-April?
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No it’s for people without a bank account like Sidehatch and Space
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No it’s for people without a bank account like Sidehatch and Space
Space is buying a new lawnmower and siderefi is paying for his mortgage again with their debit cards.
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No it’s for people without a bank account like Sidehatch and Space
Space is buying a new lawnmower and siderefi is paying for his mortgage again with their debit cards.
You’d be surprised how many people are unbanked/underbanked nowadays. Hence my thoughts on why smart companies should reform their batch payroll structure!
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No it’s for people without a bank account like Sidehatch and Space
Space is buying a new lawnmower and siderefi is paying for his mortgage again with their debit cards.
You’d be surprised how many people are unbanked/underbanked nowadays. Hence my thoughts on why smart companies should reform their batch payroll structure!
Really?? People actually don't have bank accounts? So where do they keep their $$$?
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You can’t be serious? Why do you think all those check cashing places and money orders exist?
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You can’t be serious? Why do you think all those check cashing places and money orders exist?
I'm talking about guys like Space and Hatch... not people that have zero net worth.
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No it’s for people without a bank account like Sidehatch and Space
Space is buying a new lawnmower and siderefi is paying for his mortgage again with their debit cards.
You’d be surprised how many people are unbanked/underbanked nowadays. Hence my thoughts on why smart companies should reform their batch payroll structure!
Really?? People actually don't have bank accounts? So where do they keep their $$$?
Oh God man. My company has about 5,000 CNAs/PCAs who make like $9/hour (MoCo excepted) and at any given time 15% are unbanked. I got really into the weeds last year around financial services models that fit this community (and hopefully led to increased retention) so I could bore you straight to sleep on this topic for like an hour.
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You can’t be serious? Why do you think all those check cashing places and money orders exist?
I'm talking about guys like Space and Hatch... not people that have zero net worth.
I don’t want to speak for either of them but I believe the majority of “non-zero net worth” people who are getting the cards are because (1) they owed the last two years and therefore the IRS has no bank routing on file or (2) they’ve changed banks in the last year, not a lack of a bank account.
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You can’t be serious? Why do you think all those check cashing places and money orders exist?
I'm talking about guys like Space and Hatch... not people that have zero net worth.
I don’t want to speak for either of them but I believe the majority of “non-zero net worth” people who are getting the cards are because (1) they owed the last two years and therefore the IRS has no bank routing on file or (2) they’ve changed banks in the last year, not a lack of a bank account.
I haven't owed or changed bank accounts...but my issue stems from my company changing payroll providers in 2018....so the IRS got w2's from two providers, even though the new provider had the full year's income. So I got a $8k tax bill in Feb this year! I've got the documentation to legitimately dispute that and a number of my coworkers who had the same issue were easily able to straighten it out.
But, I wasn't done when all the checks were going out...So I gotta assume my account was tagged?
Also, I convert all my paychecks to IMP giftcards (Think of all the FWB points!) so no need for a bank
Nice one...just caught on the re-read
siderefi
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good news...congress approved NDDA a veto-proof majority
now we get for 14 more F-35s!
Bad news...not even a chance that regular Americans are going to get any stimulus checks or increased unemployment bennies until we win GA at Biden is at the helm
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thank you state of Virginia, was nice to see $500 just show up in my bank account this week
bummer if you live in DC or MD...you get nothing
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thank you state of Virginia, was nice to see $500 just show up in my bank account this week
bummer if you live in DC or MD...you get nothing
What are you referring to?
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thank you state of Virginia, was nice to see $500 just show up in my bank account this week
bummer if you live in DC or MD...you get nothing
What are you referring to?
https://www.tax.virginia.gov/rebate
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thank you state of Virginia, was nice to see $500 just show up in my bank account this week
bummer if you live in DC or MD...you get nothing
What are you referring to?
https://www.tax.virginia.gov/rebate
Cool, thanks.