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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: hutch on April 29, 2020, 11:13:37 am
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I miss the build up to the show...the preshow excitement about what’s going to go down...the getting there
Mostly I miss being around people having fun
I particularly miss being around young people having fun...being around that sense of life’s possibilities before life smacks you in the face with responsibilities or I miss that window of time concerts afford you to put life’s responsibilities away and get silly like a kid
I miss the heightened expectations before the band goes on -
and the whole ritual of concerts from the first notes ringing down to the preannounced and often perfunctory encore
I miss the feast of the senses...the libations, sound and lights...even, yes, the voyeurism of looking at the other people that are part of your tribe for that night...the attractive people in their “Sunday best”
I miss staying at the venue until the clean up crew makes it clear it’s time to boogie
I miss the feel of the night air getting outside after the show when your senses seem more keen, the sights and sounds brighter and louder
I miss the ringing in my ears as I put head to pillow
I miss the next day replaying the highlights in my head and the post concert blissing
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same brah, same.
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yeah...it's been a while and I'm starting to feel it
there was always lots of planing
does the date work (family or othe show conflicts), do I have the budget, do I really like these guys to shell out $20-150 to see them
How were they the last time I saw them, is this a special tour, is this the last tour
Is this the next 'it' band and I will totally regret not seeing them at Ust or the club when they are doing headlining shed tours next year
Is this a nostalgia tour or are they really kicking out the jams on this tour
will it sell out, so do I need to set an appointment for the online sales
do I need to rally some friends prior in case they want tix (that rarely happens anymore)
Once purchased, reading reviews of this tour, checking out setlists and making mixes so I am preped on some of the deep cuts I'd never heard (I know some people it takes out all the fun, but I like being prepared)
Night of the show...what to wear ....T-shirt choice is critical
what the pre-game plan, it used to involve a boat...but that too is now gone ...thanks Obama!
what's the status on the sick eds or other consumables
Where will I get a space-friendly preshow beverage (although I'm not doing whole foods man, I have standards)
am I going solo or meeting up with someone...am I now trying to get a ticket for a friend who now wants to join or am I trying to sell my other ticket at a loss
I do love getting in and checking everyone out, what kind of crowd they attracted and what is the male to female ratio
Of course, the merch table, although I'm only buying something about 10% of the time, I still always make a point to check it
The buzz of anticipation on the floor is always just fun to be around
oh, yeah the actual music..that's an added bonus :)
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Road trip to Missouri...
Missouri Governor says Concerts can Resume (https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/9368428/missouri-concerts-resume-may-4-coronavirus)
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I do have a good friend that just moved back to St Louis...
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Great thread. So true.
I miss scouring venue websites for shows. I expect there may be fewer of them when we’re ready to go back. Hope not.
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Great thread. So true.
I miss scouring venue websites for shows. I expect there may be fewer of them when we’re ready to go back. Hope not.
It's seems clear to me that I'll be going to less shows in the future, even if things return to "normal." Eating out less as well. I was already starting to get priced out of shows before the pandemic and not having them (plus working 100 hours a week for a month) has been a pretty good reset on priorities. I got a refund on Bikini Kill and it was an easy call to get $100 back. I've got different plans for my disposable income.
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I miss travel. Between April and August, I had trips, either work or play, planned to upstate New York, Mexico City, California, Philly, and Maine. Three of them have officially bitten the dust and the other two are highly doubtful.
I know, wrong thread. I miss concerts too but i miss travel lots more. Plus, it's only been seven weeks. I often go seven weeks without a concert in normal times.
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It's seems clear to me that I'll be going to less shows in the future, even if things return to "normal." Eating out less as well. I was already starting to get priced out of shows before the pandemic
I was running into this issue as well, I would easily fit 1-2 shows a month when they were in the $15-45 range. But when the face value now seems to start at $45 and more than a few times went over $100. It really made it hard to go to so many shows.
I barely ate out prior to covid too, there had to be cuts in the budget and that is where I've cut back the most.
but this is all financially related in my position
I've never even remotely been a germ-a-phobe, but this super sensitivity to contact and transmission is our new reality... I'm going to have a hard time adjusting
I miss travel too, but was missing that prior to this too, so can't blame the covid on that one
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I miss travel too, but was missing that prior to this too, so can't blame the covid on that one
This is kind of what clinched it for me. When I dream about getting back to normal I find myself dreaming about getting out of town and heading somewhere new, not so much going to my next show.
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Great thread. So true.
I miss scouring venue websites for shows. I expect there may be fewer of them when we’re ready to go back. Hope not.
I had a biweekly task to update my list of shows on all the various venue websites. Now my biweekly task is deleting them or updating to their 2021 postponed dates.
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I miss the cathartic experience of live music. I remember seeing Travis after 9/11, several weeks later I think. And they opened with "Turn."; the whole crowd at the club I think finally exhaled from all the trauma of the prior month. I'm sure many of you were there.
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I miss the cathartic experience of live music. I remember seeing Travis after 9/11
I am drawing a blank on the first show after 9/11 (no doubt in the 9:30)(not the band ND)
But the crowd was was so jazzed to just be out and doing something fun
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I miss travel. Between April and August, I had trips, either work or play, planned to upstate New York, Mexico City, California, Philly, and Maine. Three of them have officially bitten the dust and the other two are highly doubtful.
I know, wrong thread. I miss concerts too but i miss travel lots more. Plus, it's only been seven weeks. I often go seven weeks without a concert in normal times.
This hits me doubly, as I would often travel for the concerts. Had shows to see in Charleston, Nashville, and New York between March 25 and June 5.
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I am drawing a blank on the first show after 9/11 (no doubt in the 9:30)(not the band ND)
Took a trip on the time machine...what a list of shows at the 9:30 post 9/11
9/7 - Luna - there is a high likelihood was at this, but really can't recall
9/14-15 Built to Spill two-night run
9/16 - Laurie Anderson
9/17 - Nickelback...who was able to see them before they were huge?
9/23 - John Mayer
9/25 - Sugur Ros
9.26 - Wilco - fairly certain this was my first post 9/11 show
9/27 - Rollins band
9/28 - Ratdog
9/29 - David Byrne
10/2 - Travis
10/4 - Joe Strummer (can't believe I missed this...finished the set with: Police on My Back, The Harder They Come, Yalla Yalla, Pressure Drop
I Fought the Law Encore:Bankrobber, London's Burning, A Message to You, Rudy)
10/5 - The Donnas (man I wish they'd toured in the last decade)
10/12 - Ryan Adams ...gotta imagine I was at this show too
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That’s crazy there were shows so quickly
“One of the things that sucks about this pandemic is you can’t get together with others”
- Captain Obvious
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- Captain Obvious
I think he was promoted to a general
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That’s crazy there were shows so quickly
“One of the things that sucks about this pandemic is you can’t get together with others”
- Captain Obvious
After 9/11? That's the kind of thinking I don't understand. Those hijackings were isolated events. It wasn't like they were going to spontaneously keep happening.
The pandemic is a whole new ball game. It's not a finite one day catastrophe. Unless we finally say fuck it, all this effort isn't worth it, let's take our chances and try to approximate life as it was before.
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That’s crazy there were shows so quickly
“One of the things that sucks about this pandemic is you can’t get together with others”
- Captain Obvious
After 9/11? That's the kind of thinking I don't understand. Those hijackings were isolated events. It wasn't like they were going to spontaneously keep happening.
I think in the days after 9/11 people had no idea what to expect and I do think there was a fear that more was coming
I remember SNL doing a live show was a really big deal and that wasn't until 9/29!
but I agree it was totally different
After Paul Simon did a tear-jerker of the Boxer with the firefighters and police officers standing behind, who had just come Ground Zero, with the dust of the rubble still showing on their uniforms
to think Giuliani had one of the best punch lines of all time
“Can we be funny?” Lorne Michaels asked
“Why start now?” Giuliani responded
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fitting article
The Week The Music Stopped (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/music-crisis-concerts-tours-980968/)
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After 9-11 flights were grounded..hell the president disappeared!
the fact that shows were held in the capital - a city that was attacked (Pentagon) and targeted (Capitol) only a few days after 9-11 is surprising
I guess people just forget the panic and insane overreaction that grew out of 9-11....we spent the rest of the decade flinging missiles wherever
I remember returning to the US in late 2002 and people were still scared...you could hardly even walk near a government building or metro station without people eyeing you suspiciously
How quickly people forget
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After 9-11 flights were grounded..hell the president disappeared!
the fact that shows were held in the capital - a city that was attacked (Pentagon) and targeted (Capitol) only a few days after 9-11 is surprising
I guess people just forget the panic and insane overreaction that grew out of 9-11....we spent the rest of the decade flinging missiles wherever
I remember returning to the US in late 2002 and people were still scared...you could hardly even walk near a government building or metro station without people eyeing you suspiciously
How quickly people forget
People didn't look at me suspiciously.
Do you think people will look back on the COVID and say we insanely overreacted?
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Overreacted to over 100,000 dead in a few weeks from a pandemic?
What “people”?
You?
You probably will...you’re angry about the inconvenience it caused you and your kid...
Republicans?
Definitely leaning in that direction
The rest....?
Have to wait and see how it plays out...
I doubt in NYC people think we overreacted
I mean we were heading towards 2 million dead!
Hard to see how we overreacted but knowing Americans stupidity anything is possible
The rest of the world looks at us and thinks we severely under reacted and caused tens of thousands of people to die who needn’t have
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I mean WTF to anyone who even slightly thinks we overreacted
I know three people that lost family to covid..one lost TWO
Just not in the mood for that bullshit
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Yeah we overreacted
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html
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Nissan is doing this for any 2020, canceled or rescheduled show:
Receive a credit for 150% of your purchase (including fees). So if you spent $200 on tickets, you will receive $300 in credit!
This credit can be used for a future ticket purchase at over 100 Live Nation Venues through 2022 (including Jiffy Lube Live & Veterans United Home Loans Amphitheater at Virginia Beach).
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^smart move
I rarely if ever go to those venues, so won't really benifit from that
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https://www.pollstar.com/article/the-comeback-how-the-concert-business-is-going-about-it-144458
I guess if we don’t care about losing tens of thousands of Americans concerts can come back earlier....
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The only trip I missed was my annual trip to see you guys in April - major bummer there, though in two weeks I was supposed to be in Maui.
And SF certainly does not think we over reacted. 850,000 people living in 7 square miles and we've had 31 deaths. It's nearly a point of pride at this point...
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We watched the Austin City Limits doc this weekend and it made me miss concerts soooo much.
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Lawn Shows:
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/05/05/despite-covid-19-the-show-goes-on-lawns-for-evanston-musicians/ (https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/05/05/despite-covid-19-the-show-goes-on-lawns-for-evanston-musicians/)
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There was a time when I would be so excited to see a show
I posted this 6 years ago in my FB
I remember when the Marah brothers broke their feud and hit the road (this may have been the a year or two after that) and played Jammin Java
Was such a fun show
What I also miss is these small shows when the band hangs out after to talk and sign shit
This show was lucky enough to not only grab the set list (thanks Hutch I'm sure) but got the band to sign it
I miss concerts
(https://i.imgur.com/SlFtnSq.jpeg)
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I just don't understand all of these brother bands who fight. Oasis, the Crowes, Marah...are the Avett Brothers fighting?
I mean i fought with my brother when i was a kid, but then i grew up. Of course, I'm not in a band with him.
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Of course, I'm not in a band with him.
there ya go.
another thing that will bring fraternal strife is opening a business together.
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Or it could be just a big act
A schtick
In the case of marah I think serge got a regular job, got married, had a kid..decided to go straight
When he got divorced he came back to the band
Noel and Liam know full well the longer this goes on the more they will bank on the inevitable reunion
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give Noel's recently announced stance on masks, i wouldn't be surprised if Liam's clothing company Pretty Green doesn't start selling masks... making bank on each other
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I can relate: I only speak to one of my brothers And that relationship ended well into adulthood.
I agree that the business end is a contributor. Going into business with friends or family members is risky.
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The Everly Brothers had an ongoing feud over political affiliations.
https://www.kmaland.com/news/don-everly-backs-hillary-clinton/article_4755c096-c5e1-11e5-bb1b-4313ed84baee.html
Fortunately, the Republican (Phil) is the one who died. He's also the one who was a smoker.
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don't we have a family feud thread or something
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I was at the Sigur Ros and Wilco shows.
I miss EVERYTHING.
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Has anyone contemplated there might not be traditional live shows until at least 2022?
We are all assuming the vaccine will allow us to return to normal soon but not necessarily so....
Awful to think about
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Has anyone contemplated there might not be traditional live shows until at least 2022?
We are all assuming the vaccine will allow us to return to normal soon but not necessarily so....
Awful to think about
I think it’ll be before 2022 but it’s not like if there’s a vaccine in January we are returning to concerts in February by any means.
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Weezer, Fall out Boy.
https://pitchfork.com/news/watch-weezer-and-fall-out-boy-compete-on-celebrity-family-feud/?utm_source=twitter&mbid=social_twitter&utm_social-type=owned&utm_medium=social&utm_brand=p4k (https://pitchfork.com/news/watch-weezer-and-fall-out-boy-compete-on-celebrity-family-feud/?utm_source=twitter&mbid=social_twitter&utm_social-type=owned&utm_medium=social&utm_brand=p4k)
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Has anyone contemplated there might not be traditional live shows until at least 2022?
We are all assuming the vaccine will allow us to return to normal soon but not necessarily so....
Awful to think about
I'm just hoping my kid gets to start high school next year in person. Concerts would be a bonus. And I'm willing to sacrifice concerts, bars, and indoor dining to get the schools open. Though opening schools don't seem to be a priority.
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Well am willing to “sacrifice” concerts for a lot of things but still a horrible reality for my life
I rely on concerts to make the rest of my life more bearable
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I rely on concerts to make the rest of my life more bearable
yep, my church/therapy...without it, I'm fraying
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Though opening schools safely and responsibly doesn't seem to be a priority.
FTFY
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I rely on concerts to make the rest of my life more bearable
yep, my church/therapy...without it, I'm fraying
I am fairly confident, that I am losing, my mind.
watched Tweedy show friday night, Deer Tick saturday night. I enjoyed, and don't regret, but Unsatisfying to say the least.
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I was just refunded for Amyl and the Sniffers at Ottobar
I had assumed this had already happened not that I much care...
I really feel for bands that were on the way up - building their fan base- only to be stopped dead on the tracks...some will now never make it.. live music being so important in terms of $ it’s got to suck... a lot of these musicians that were on the way to stardom are now probably collecting unemployment
It all seems rather black these days
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I received an email with a refund for Brendan Benson at U St. There are 3 options:
1) IMP Voucher for 125% of face value (valid for 1 year from reopening)
2) Refund to credit card
3) Donate to IMP Family Fund
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Obviously soon we will see people begin to buy out music venues that otherwise can’t survive....
https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/marc-geiger-savelive-indie-concert-venues-1082641/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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Ugh
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And right on cue here is a local example...I expect will only accelerate given covid19 fiasco
https://www.pollstar.com/article/insomniac-acquires-club-glow-echostage-and-soundcheck-in-dc-146730
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(https://i.imgur.com/g0xLAhz.png)
We feel ya man
Can't believe the last time I was there was October 25th to see Sleater‐Kinney
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Let’s hope can be there by October 2021
It only opened October 2017
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six years ago, caught my one and only Diarrhea Planet show (https://i.imgur.com/SdN8Bg0.jpg)
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Saw them at RnR. Not sure that was the same show.
Dragged the wife and she enjoyed them immensely. Won’t talk about them to her friends, of course.
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Saw them at RnR. Not sure that was the same show.
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blackcatblackcat
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https://wtop.com/business-finance/2021/04/most-americans-take-a-wait-and-see-approach-with-ticketed-events-during-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR0epniax6m8aHIdioeLmx2vpvigtgohfDrvuvgT7vDIAjf1oRVAnItuGOE
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I just bought tickets to see Bjork in Reykjavik at the end of August. My thinking is, my girlfriend and I are vaccinated and hopefully most of Iceland will be by July - luckily the airfare has no change fees in case covid gets bad again (they had something like 50 new cases over the weekend). It's going to be a weird experience for sure (fully expecting to still have covid-PTSD by the time it roles around)
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Wow that sounds fantastic..like a once in a lifetime concert
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FB reminded me that Hutch and I caught Steven Malkmus at the same venue Arlo Pork is playing 2 years ago
Was a great show and surprised he couldn't get enough turn out to play the black cat
Also...Hutch is listed as GUEST? did he just deactivate his account?
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FB reminded me that Hutch and I caught Steven Malkmus at the same venue Arlo Pork is playing 2 years ago
Was a great show and surprised he couldn't get enough turn out to play the black cat
Also...Hutch is listed as GUEST? did he just deactivate his account?
Oh damn! Oh NO!
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Whoa. It appears he did.
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these are depressing photos
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/05/04/dc-music-venues-photo-essay/
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(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/218400786_10220103348200690_8046882139139477827_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=EnqQiHMemNYAX_sEfqr&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=cd725588b0bd19d9ad64ca0a0e18e82a&oe=60FCCD14)
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I went to my first show since Heilung last night - Japanese Breakfast with Mannequin Pussy at the Fillmore.
Solid show, but more than anything it felt great to be back.
Heilung 4Eva!
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I went to my first show since Heilung last night - Japanese Breakfast with Mannequin Pussy at the Fillmore.
Solid show, but more than anything it felt great to be back.
Heilung 4Eva!
Seeing that double bill tonite at The National. My first (non-bubble) concert since COVID.
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I went to my first show since Heilung last night - Japanese Breakfast with Mannequin Pussy at the Fillmore.
Solid show, but more than anything it felt great to be back.
Heilung 4Eva!
How was the mask situation in doors?
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I went to my first show since Heilung last night - Japanese Breakfast with Mannequin Pussy at the Fillmore.
Solid show, but more than anything it felt great to be back.
Heilung 4Eva!
Seconded, apart from the Heilung part (have tickets for Red Rocks in October). Excellent show.
May just be naive, but I was somewhat taken aback by the lack of masks. The current Fillmore policy is for patrons to mask up unless drinking/eating. Felt like a pariah the few times I took mine off to sip on a beer.
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I went to my first show since Heilung last night - Japanese Breakfast with Mannequin Pussy at the Fillmore.
Solid show, but more than anything it felt great to be back.
Heilung 4Eva!
Seconded, apart from the Heilung part (have tickets for Red Rocks in October). Excellent show.
May just be naive, but I was somewhat taken aback by the lack of masks. The current Fillmore policy is for patrons to mask up unless drinking/eating. Felt like a pariah the few times I took mine off to sip on a beer.
Are you saying that they have a policy requiring masks but nobody was following it?
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I didn't see any signs (or masks) other than the staff.
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I didn't see any signs (or masks) other than the staff.
Neither did I but its at the top of the COVID information section of the Fillmore website. Foolishly expected that the recent spike would change behavior.