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Title: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: sweetcell on February 23, 2021, 04:41:08 am
a thread for 45's post-insurrection career, and the future of the GOP.

Trump to tell CPAC he is Republican 'presumptive 2024 nominee' – report (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/22/trump-cpac-republican-presumptive-2024-nominee)
Unnamed source tells news site Axios Trump’s speech to the rightwing event will have the message ‘I’m still in charge’

selected quotes:

Jason Miller, said: “Trump effectively is the Republican party. The only chasm is between Beltway insiders and grass-roots Republicans around the country. When you attack President Trump, you’re attacking the Republican grass roots.”
(...)
Polling of Republicans who have not left the party, however, shows the former president with a clear lead over a range of potential 2024 candidates, supportive of him or not, in a notional primary.
(...)
Trump’s grip on his party is clear. New polling from Suffolk University and USA Today showed 46% of Trump voters would follow him if he formed his own party while 42% said his impeachment had strengthened their support. The same poll said 58% of Trump voters subscribed to an outright conspiracy theory: that the Capitol riot was “mostly a [leftwing] antifa-inspired attack that only involved a few Trump supporters”.

In reality, many of more than 250 individuals charged over the attack have been found to have links to far-right groups.
(...)
The former Republican strategist Stuart Stevens said Scalise was “saying that America isn’t a democracy. That’s become the new standard of the Republican party. Not since 1860s has a large part of the country refused to accept election. The Republican party is an anti-democratic force.”


discuss.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 23, 2021, 09:25:36 am
all in favor of this thread going bye bye raise your hand... this world needs less of 45** content not more
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 23, 2021, 09:49:24 am
i agree...but we kinda need a politics thread, but shouldn't be focused on the former guy
lots of news will continue to happen around him and the GQP
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: Space Freely on February 23, 2021, 09:53:06 am
all in favor of this thread going bye bye raise your hand... this world needs less of 45** content not more

My thoughts exactly. At least for a while.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: hutch on February 23, 2021, 10:05:32 am
+1


Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 23, 2021, 12:20:07 pm
Neither for nor against. I don’t believe pausing it till 2022 is a bad idea tho.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: sweetcell on February 23, 2021, 02:16:18 pm
all in favor of this thread going bye bye raise your hand... this world needs less of 45** content not more

waaaah!  waaaaaaaah!  my first amendment rights!  this is cancel culture in full effect!!!  you cannot suppress free thought!!!!111
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 23, 2021, 02:27:48 pm
the 9:30 forum is NOT a democracy or follow any 1st amendment type rules
but Kozmo does make the trains run on time
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: grateful on August 21, 2021, 04:32:06 pm
Some great stuff here:

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1429166332977762309?s=19
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: vansmack on August 22, 2021, 06:34:47 pm
Trumps border wall destroyed by rain:

https://gizmodo.com/trumps-border-wall-torn-apart-by-arizona-monsoon-rains-1847535174
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 22, 2021, 06:54:14 pm
I’m as worried about Trump now as I was I. 2015. This thread stays.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: Yada on August 22, 2021, 07:44:14 pm
I’m as worried about Trump now as I was I. 2015. This thread stays.

Can things get any worse?
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 23, 2021, 08:29:12 am
Things can always get worse.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 01, 2021, 06:06:27 am
Those butt hurt Bernie bros must be feeling extra special today
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 01, 2021, 10:18:41 am
extra special shout out to Jill Stein supporters
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 01, 2021, 10:40:51 am
can you at least detail what you are talking about...

I hope you are not including Vermin Supreme supporters in your vitriol
because then we are going to have to step outside
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 01, 2021, 10:47:31 am
can you at least detail what you are talking about...

I hope you are not including Vermin Supreme supporters in your vitriol
because then we are going to have to step outside

the non decision made by the supreme court in regards to the texas abortion law, that was facilitated in part by 45** being able to pack the court

had a certain voting segment decided to look past all the "flaws" of Hilary and just being butt hurt because their candidate didn't make it through the primaries , it's possible we won't be in this mess..
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 01, 2021, 11:08:47 am
had a certain voting segment decided to look past all the "flaws" of Hilary and just being butt hurt because their candidate didn't make it through the primaries , it's possible we won't be in this mess..
ahh if life was that simple

does suck that people have to swallow their convictions and hold their nose at the federal level
when the problem isn't third party candidates, as much as it is the current state of the Electoral College
I still think Rank choice primary voting would also help.  Trump rarely got more than 40% in the early primaries, but came to power with a big enough coalition of the crazies

When will these people learn that REAL change happens at the local level
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 01, 2021, 01:49:12 pm
While I'm 100% against the texas abortion thing...this part really takes the cake
the law tasks private individuals with bringing lawsuits against anyone who provides or “aids or abets” an abortion. Anyone who brings a successful lawsuit can collect $10,000 or more from the person who is found to have violated the law. The unusual private-enforcement scheme distinguishes the Texas law from other states’
WTF...how was it not thrown out because of this, seriously fucked up times
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 01, 2021, 05:15:23 pm
Apparently the private enforcement clause was added to specifically ensure the Supreme Court wouldn’t rule on it… expect other red states to follow suit with similar laws

The dems better put on their big boy pants and protect rights at the Federal level
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: Starsky on September 01, 2021, 05:57:20 pm
Uh oh
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 01, 2021, 06:01:56 pm
Apparently the private enforcement clause was added to specifically ensure the Supreme Court wouldn’t rule on it… expect other red states to follow suit with similar laws

The dems better put on their big boy pants and protect rights at the Federal level
I truly do not understand this law. How does it stand up (even ostensibly) to the claim that the person suing the “aborter” or “aborter enabler” could not possibly have standing? This seems like the easiest abortion law to throw out. It’s like someone burning down Sidehatchs house and Kosmo suing them despite the fact it wasn’t his house and he has no damages.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 01, 2021, 06:33:23 pm
word is Kosmo's attorney speaks with a British accent...I'm fucked

Wait..in your analogy Kosmo, is suing the actual Arsonist (which we all know was Starsky) or the one who got caught close to the scene of the crime with a book of matches (which I have to assume is STC)
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 02, 2021, 11:11:44 am
Here we go!!!!

Local Elections now matter more than ever, of course most red states vote against their best interest so...


Charles P. Pierce
@CharlesPPierce
My astonished rage cleared for a second and I realized that, according to this decision, states can pass all kinds of unconstitutional laws as long as they leave the enforcement to bounty hunters.
Jesus, we're back at the Kansas-Nebraska Act again.

https://twitter.com/CharlesPPierce/status/1433289411064631298?s=20

worried your children are being taught Critical Race Theory?  pass a law allowing enforcement by citizen bounty hunters..

later rinse repeat
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 02, 2021, 10:59:22 pm
Here are the next states that could pass abortion bans after Texas (https://www.axios.com/abortion-bans-by-state-351dd8b4-90bd-48d9-bef6-1ee820d11d43.html)
yikes
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 04, 2021, 10:59:08 am
Because this is now the abortion thread (kinda fitting)

Stole this from Jason narducy as it’s such a great quote

“‘The unborn’ are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn”
Methodist Pastor David Barnhart
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: sweetcell on September 07, 2021, 12:48:45 pm
^ thought-provoking. 

dunno if i like that, so early in the morning.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2022, 11:57:26 am
it's coming....Nov 14th
https://www.axios.com/2022/11/04/trump-presidential-run-2024-announcement


I do love how they closed this out
Reality check: It's Trump. So anything could happen — or not. He's conflicted on the timing and nothing is ever certain. But people who have been close to him for many years are lacing up for the next race.


Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: sweetcell on November 07, 2022, 12:25:28 pm
so i wonder how big a wrinkle this presents: RNC chair says committee can’t pay Trump’s legal bills if he announces 2024 run (https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3721990-rnc-chair-says-committee-cant-pay-trumps-legal-bills-if-he-announces-2024-run/)

for someone supposedly as rich as TFG this shouldn't be a problem... but he haaaaates paying lawyers.  considers it wasted money so he gets other folks - like the RNC - to pay, if payment is to be made at all.  so he has a choice: declare soon and get some legal protections (or at least complications) but start paying out of pocket; or remain on the sidelines to continue having the legal tab picked up.  pretty sure he'll opt for the former.

declaring candidacy also has impact on how PACs can spend money and on what, but i wasn't clear how that works...
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: shemptiness on November 10, 2022, 12:06:52 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhKwILSWYAAeq2c?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 10, 2022, 12:08:57 pm
murdoch owned rag
WSJ wasn't so nice either

although everyone seems to love 'biggest loser'
come on people, be a little original with your dis, especially when everyone else is saying the same thing


Here is the thing...the pundits and such may not like trump...but he still has the voters, so GOP won't quit him until he scares away the voters
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 10, 2022, 12:09:30 pm
Rupert Murdoch has basically unleashed all of his various media apparati to taking down Trump. A third straight woeful underperformance (if not loss) under the Trump banner seems to be his breaking point.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: Starsky on November 10, 2022, 12:18:37 pm
Am going to need a lot of popcorn for the Republican presidential primary battle between Desantis and Trump…. I wonder if anyone else will figure in the contest.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 10, 2022, 12:22:16 pm
I'm sure rubio and cruz will try and get creamed

Trump has already hinted he has dirt on Desan
these are horrible people, why 70mil Americans think these are good choices astounds me (but they think the same about the 80 mil dems)
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 10, 2022, 12:55:09 pm
I'm sure rubio and cruz will try and get creamed
Funny you mention Rubio. He just won by the same margins as DeSantis and ostensibly had a lot more to do with pulling Miami/Dade red for the first time in forever than DeSantis. Why — other than DeSantis holding the florida redistricting pen — are we acting like DeSantis alone reformed Florida (other than executive branch bias)?
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: grateful on November 10, 2022, 01:29:50 pm
Am going to need a lot of popcorn for the Republican presidential primary battle between Desantis and Trump…. I wonder if anyone else will figure in the contest.

Hogan is making noise about getting in.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 10, 2022, 01:44:29 pm
Am going to need a lot of popcorn for the Republican presidential primary battle between Desantis and Trump…. I wonder if anyone else will figure in the contest.

Hogan is making noise about getting in.
will get exactly zero votes from the MAGA crowd
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: grateful on November 10, 2022, 01:50:47 pm
Am going to need a lot of popcorn for the Republican presidential primary battle between Desantis and Trump…. I wonder if anyone else will figure in the contest.

Hogan is making noise about getting in.
will get exactly zero votes from the MAGA crowd

Yep, that's his shtick. Get back to the "normal" republican party.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 10, 2022, 01:53:08 pm
Am going to need a lot of popcorn for the Republican presidential primary battle between Desantis and Trump…. I wonder if anyone else will figure in the contest.

Hogan is making noise about getting in.
will get exactly zero votes from the MAGA crowd

Yep, that's his shtick. Get back to the "normal" republican party.
well MAGA is 70-80% of the GOP, so not sure that's going to work out well
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 10, 2022, 02:23:10 pm
I think I’ve posted about this recently but I’ll say it again: I think there is a group of politicians — Hogan and Tulsi and Sinema, et Al — who thinks America is clamoring for some sort of dead-middle-of-the-road unity ticket that ideologically pleases no partisans but takes the temperature down on our national political discourse, and I think they’re all going to discover in very, very short order that they have imagined a market that doesn’t exist.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: sweetcell on November 15, 2022, 10:39:20 pm
it's official: Trump 2024 (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/15/trump-news-trump-launches-2024-presidential-campaign-in-a-bid-to-seize-early-momentum.html)
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2022, 12:30:00 am
NPR didn’t hold any punches with this headline

BREAKING: Donald Trump, who tried to overthrow the results of the 2020 presidential election and inspired a deadly riot at the Capitol in a desperate attempt to keep himself in power, has filed to run for president again in 2024.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: Starsky on November 16, 2022, 12:39:32 am
I thought he wasn’t going to do it cause of weather? He just changed the location?

Well ….he is the Republican party’s problem now but he may be our problem later
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: Space Freely on November 16, 2022, 08:09:02 am
I thought he wasn’t going to do it cause of weather? He just changed the location?

Well ….he is the Republican party’s problem now but he may be our problem later

That's what happens when you get your news from Kosmo. It wasn't clear from K's post whose hair was being talked about, so I googled it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/gaetz-trump-2024-announcement-snub-b2225869.html

It's just appalling that this guy announces his candidacy before the arrests of him or any of his inner circle.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2022, 10:25:22 am
It's just appalling that this guy announces his candidacy before the arrests of him or any of his inner circle.
pretty much the point
now he's got leverage to get the maga incited to riot if he's indicted

loses the pop vote twice
loses the house and the senate
fumbles a mid term so badly pretty much they are surrounding him with daggers for his Cesar moment

but he's got a base that are willing to die for him, for reals

we're screwed
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2022, 12:48:27 pm
he's got a base that are willing to die for him, for reals
as if on cue

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1592916222727053316
Leaving Mar-a-Lago, failed congressman Madison Cawthorn lectures Rs who won’t get behind his hero: “I will follow this man until the day I die. This man has bled for us, fought for us. I want a president who people are terrified of, who’s gonna push people out of the way.”

got a new hip look going on too?!
the blond makes him less recognizable...I didn't add the drugs comment
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhsumHBXoAEU27u?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: sweetcell on November 16, 2022, 01:53:29 pm
the amazing thing about douchebags is that no matter how awful they are, they always find s a way of being douchier.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: Space Freely on November 16, 2022, 02:56:00 pm
This man has bled for us, fought for us.

That was actually his archenemy, John McCain.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 16, 2022, 02:58:10 pm
This man has bled for us, fought for us.
Guys, we can really stop talking about me at GwarBQ.
Title: Re: Maybe we should just elect Trump president... again?
Post by: Space Freely on November 17, 2022, 09:17:47 am
Seems like Trump has lost Vlad's support.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1592937109425651713