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Title: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 29, 2022, 12:36:44 am
 ;D

Joni Mitchell is pulling her music off Spotify

And yes I realize this is the equivalent of posting first in the Dropping Like Flies thread
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Starsky on January 29, 2022, 01:00:38 am
Good for Joni
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 29, 2022, 11:03:39 am
(https://i.ibb.co/RPxB85W/Screen-Shot-2022-01-29-at-10-02-05-AM.png) (https://twitter.com/JamesBlunt/status/1487364023003844610?s=20&t=2h6hZ_BCi054tJXo1BcA1w)
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Space Freely on January 29, 2022, 01:36:47 pm
I'm spending my morning listening to a defense of Joe Rogan and how "liberals need to stop attacking anti-vaxxers."
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Starsky on January 29, 2022, 02:25:28 pm
Why do that to yourself?


Vaccine resistance at this point makes no sense….I mean we have to have over a billion people all over the world that have gotten the vaccines and I don’t see any evidence people are keeling over en masse from it…

So frustrating…. But you just can’t argue with these people
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 29, 2022, 02:50:07 pm
Thing isn’t it’s just the antivax BS being spewed that’s currently driving people off Spotify because of his presence..

Just this week there was this

Spotify's JR and guest JP suggest trans people are a sign of “civilizations collapsing”
Peterson compared being trans to undergoing “satanic ritual abuse,” referring to bogus satanic panic of 1980s

https://www.mediamatters.org/joe-rogan-experience/spotifys-joe-rogan-and-guest-jordan-peterson-suggest-trans-people-are-sign

And this comment from the same show

JR: ‘Very Strange’ to Call People Black Unless They’re From ‘Darkest Place’ of Africa

https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-rogan-says-its-very-strange-to-call-people-black-unless-theyre-from-darkest-place-of-africa


And humblebrag I dropped my subscription when they brought him on board


Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Starsky on January 29, 2022, 03:46:53 pm
Tom Brady
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: GAY,GUY on January 29, 2022, 04:30:50 pm
I can't, cancel Spotify . . . I like what it offers, too much.  Just like those tasty, hate filled nuggets from Chick-fil-A.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Starsky on January 29, 2022, 04:32:30 pm
But can you quit Tom Brady?
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: GAY,GUY on January 29, 2022, 06:04:46 pm
But can you quit Tom Brady?


I always thought he was very odd looking.  His life was just so magical and perfect in most regards, it seems almost not real.  To be honest, I fall into that category of hating a lot of football players who become, too damn superstar big.  I never paid him much attention while he was winning everything.  I liked the Skins and Ravens for most of my football watching . . . so what are you, going to do with that.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: grateful on January 29, 2022, 07:00:13 pm
But can you quit Tom Brady?

I predict Brady will be a Commander in 8 months.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 30, 2022, 09:12:14 am
Liza is in, now the whole industry will shift
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 30, 2022, 10:06:01 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKWrEmmXsAElyft?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 30, 2022, 08:54:56 pm
Neil 1 - JR 0

Spotify to direct listeners to correct Covid information after Joe Rogan controversy

Streaming platform publishes rules for creators and announces plan to tackle misinformation, including ‘content advisories’

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jan/31/spotify-to-direct-listeners-to-correct-covid-information-after-joe-rogan-controversy
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Yada on January 30, 2022, 10:10:52 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKWrEmmXsAElyft?format=jpg&name=large)

I'd be more upset if the "belly" soundtrack was protesting being on Spotify.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Starsky on January 30, 2022, 10:22:25 pm


I am awaiting a call from Neil to discuss next steps…

I suspect this will not be enough for Neil Young so I will continue my Spotify boycott
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Yada on January 31, 2022, 10:17:36 am
Neil is as brave as all of consumers boycotting Spotify.

https://m.neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=Subscribe-amazon-music
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2022, 01:07:21 pm
this should go here as I expect this thread to be 3,000 pages
we want to make sure we get all the defectors in one place

Brené Brown leaves spotify

“I will not be releasing any podcasts until further notice,” Brown tweeted Jan. 29. “To our #UnlockingUs and #DaretoLead communities, I’m sorry and I’ll let you know if and when that changes. Stay awkward, brave, and kind.”
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2022, 01:33:08 pm
So is this now fixed...Rogan has spoken and said supported Spotify's move to add disclaimers on controversial episodes.

Seems fixed to me ;)
Neil come on back, liza, you can stay

is it me or is #teamneil filled with people
1. Don't have spotify
2. If they did have spotify, they had the free version
3. 'What is spotify?', will the Dr take care of that at my next checkup
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Starsky on January 31, 2022, 01:47:45 pm
Plenty of Neil fans have Spotify

Some have been bemoaning not being able to listen to Carnegie (on Spotify) on the Steve Hoffman forum
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2022, 01:50:13 pm
Plenty of Neil fans have Spotify
define plenty
also how many of them own a Pono


think of all those he left with a useless yellow triangle for $400
System demise
On July 17, 2016, PonoMusic announced that it would be temporarily shut down due to the acquisition of their bankrupt content partner, Omnifone, by Apple Inc.They further stated that during this shutdown period, PonoMusic would be transitioning to a new platform provided by 7digital. The website, however, has been in a non-operating "under construction" state since then.

In April 2017, Young announced PonoMusic store was being discontinued, but with future plans to transition the service from a download model to a high-resolution streaming service to be known as "Xstream". As of October 2019, however, the service had yet to launch, and there have been no further announcements regarding its future.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 31, 2022, 01:52:37 pm
I still don't understand how Spotify doesn't even support lossless since it was supposed to launch [checks notes] summer of last year.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2022, 01:55:18 pm
I know what I'm getting hutch for his birthday
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133992739558

what is even sadder is the DMB one is worth more
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324951359933

Am glad to see the Herbie Handcock one is going for double the DMB one
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293668792321


Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2022, 01:56:17 pm
Rogan portrayed himself as a figure who is just having interesting conversations, but at the same time he disputed the basic concept of misinformation. He claimed that changes in scientific opinion — for example about the effectiveness of cloth masks or the origins of the virus — have previously been viewed as misinformation and could have been banned on social media.

"Many of the things that we thought of as misinformation just a short while ago are now accepted as fact," Rogan claimed. (source (https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/31/politics/trump-electoral-count-act-2024/))


there is a lovely french canadian expression that, loosely translated, is "he has missed an excellent opportunity to remain quiet."
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 31, 2022, 02:08:24 pm
Plenty of Neil fans have Spotify

Some have been bemoaning not being able to listen to Carnegie (on Spotify) on the Steve Hoffman forum
I had probably listened to Carnegie 5-8 times in its entirety on Spotify before it was removed. Love the little "Mayflower" story before Southern Man.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Yada on January 31, 2022, 02:30:49 pm
I still don't understand how Spotify doesn't even support lossless since it was supposed to launch [checks notes] summer of last year.

I'm sure your ears can easily spot the difference between 320 kbps and lossless... another moot point in the streaming services battle.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 31, 2022, 02:44:52 pm
I still don't understand how Spotify doesn't even support lossless since it was supposed to launch [checks notes] summer of last year.

I'm sure your ears can easily spot the difference between 320 kbps and lossless... another moot point in the streaming services battle.

Audiophiles care about these things. It's literally why Quboz exists as a service.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Yada on January 31, 2022, 02:58:04 pm
I still don't understand how Spotify doesn't even support lossless since it was supposed to launch [checks notes] summer of last year.

I'm sure your ears can easily spot the difference between 320 kbps and lossless... another moot point in the streaming services battle.

Audiophiles care about these things. It's literally why Quboz exists as a service.

I was unaware you were an audiophile and I know why these services exist... not to stream 320kps vs. lossless through airpods or $400 speakers.

My argument is the "audiophiles" out there Can't tell the difference between the bitrate of 320kps vs. lossless nor do they have the equipment to support it.

This isn't 1999 with an mp3 that's been ripped five different ways at 192kp.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2022, 03:07:32 pm
This isn't 1999
but we can still party like it is
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 31, 2022, 03:25:34 pm
This isn't 1999 with an mp3 that's been ripped five different ways at 192kp.
I just remembered people re-encoding 128kp mp3s to 320 being a thing and I enjoyed the chuckle down memory lane.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on January 31, 2022, 03:28:23 pm
Nerd


 :)
This isn't 1999 with an mp3 that's been ripped five different ways at 192kp.
I just remembered people re-encoding 128kp mp3s to 320 being a thing and I enjoyed the chuckle down memory lane.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2022, 05:08:22 pm
I still don't understand how Spotify doesn't even support lossless since it was supposed to launch [checks notes] summer of last year.

I'm sure your ears can easily spot the difference between 320 kbps and lossless... another moot point in the streaming services battle.

Audiophiles care about these things.

spotify, and other streaming services, care about staying in business.  audiophiles are a very small, and shrinking, market.  the number of homes that have a setup wherein 320 vs. loseless is audible (and the listeners can both hear and care about the difference) is vanishingly small. 


It's literally why Quboz exists as a service.

since spotify already offers 320kbit/s to paying members, i seriously doubt there is a business case for them to go loseless. 
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Yada on January 31, 2022, 05:24:52 pm

since spotify already offers 320kbit/s to paying members, i seriously doubt there is a business case for them to go loseless.

for guys like brettnotbritt that have the hearing of a bat.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 31, 2022, 05:47:18 pm

since spotify already offers 320kbit/s to paying members, i seriously doubt there is a business case for them to go loseless.

for guys like brettnotbritt that have the hearing of a bat.

Nope, my horn tweeters would automatically disqualify me from that discussion. I just have a friend who is an actual audiophile with a five figure DAC and crazy expensive speakers that would scoff at the notion of subscribing to lossy audio services. It's a niche demographic, but again, services like Qobuz and Tidal heavily appeal to them because of access to those higher quality streams.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2022, 05:58:25 pm
Neil Young blamed homosexuals for AIDS:
In an interview with Melody Maker in 1985, Neil Young backed Reagan’s gun control policies and said of AIDS, “You go to a supermarket and you see a faggot behind the fuckin’ cash register, you don’t want him to handle your potatoes.” Needless to say, Young almost certainly regrets that horrific statement and quickly moved away from right-wing politics. He wrote the furious anti-George H.W. Bush screed “Rockin’ in the Free World” in 1989 and was one of George W. Bush’s most vocal critics in the 2000s.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/michelle-shocked-not-the-first-artist-to-betray-her-fanbase-87622/
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2022, 06:19:30 pm
the rogan defenders are jumping on this like white on rice  (is that offensive?)

I was shocked, when I saw your link, that people were still talking about Michelle Shocked (jeff tweedy cousin I think?) but the article is from 2013

also, could have cross posted in the potato's in the news thread

also they are cherry picking the quote...here is the full quote: https://www.angelfire.com/rock2/traces/pages/legend.html

With half the material for a follow-up album to Old Ways already in the can, Young is in the middle of a renaissance of sorts. Not even the AIDS terror can dent his confidence.

"It is scary. You go to the supermarket and you see a faggot behind the fuckin' cash register. You don't want him to handle your potatoes. It's true! It's paranoid but that's the way it is even though it's not just gay people, they're taking the rap. There's a lotta religious people, of course, who feel that this is God's work. God's saying, y'know, "no more buttfucking or we're gonna getcha'."

Young cackled dementedly. "I don't know what it is. It's natural, that's one thing about it. It's a living organism or virus, whatever it is. I hope they find something to stop it. It's worse than the Killer Bees."

Young obviously isn't making a play for the Gay vote. They probably don't hold with that sort of thing in the country.



He was right on one thing, AIDS was definitely worse than the Killer Bees
(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/17ae68_004671e33b664b099b61455e4d80095d~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_601,h_750,al_c,q_85/17ae68_004671e33b664b099b61455e4d80095d~mv2.jpg)

although these guys could arguably be worse
(http://www.rockarena.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/killer_bee_band.jpg)
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Space Freely on January 31, 2022, 07:34:00 pm
For the record, Michelle Shocked is the cousin of Max Johnston, who was in Uncle Tupelo and early Wilco. She is no relation to Jeff Tweedy.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Starsky on January 31, 2022, 08:01:08 pm
It’s all covered in the Shakey biography

Like many liberals after the Carter catastrophe he went through a brief Reagan flirtation….

I give him a lot of latitude because of what was going on in his life with his new kid….when something like that happens you can lose the plot a bit for a while
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: sweetcell on January 31, 2022, 08:01:37 pm
https://www.angelfire.com/rock2/traces/pages/legend.html (https://www.angelfire.com/rock2/traces/pages/legend.html)

ah yes, angelfire... as an information source it's a notch above geocities, but still not at the level of blogspot.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 31, 2022, 09:34:27 pm
https://www.angelfire.com/rock2/traces/pages/legend.html (https://www.angelfire.com/rock2/traces/pages/legend.html)

ah yes, angelfire... as an information source it's a notch above geocities, but still not at the level of blogspot.
while i think it’s a funny throwback, I do think it is a copy of the original melody maker article everyone is referencing
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: grateful on January 31, 2022, 10:54:19 pm
our stupid band gets close to a million monthly streams on spotify. spotify pays out .003 cents per stream. 100% of that goes to our former label sony who is a part owner of spotify. this is why i’m mad

https://twitter.com/Eve6/status/1488158473028202496?t=IYTI-UoEmpQhl4ysAuN90A&s=19
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 01, 2022, 11:58:51 am
Graham Nash joins in the leaving Spotify

conspiracy theory alert!!!

some heavy hitter must have told Spotify privately they would leave the service over Covid Misinformation, what else explains their abrupt policy shift over the weekend.

while symbolic Neil's stance is still to be lauded.. and is helping amplify how shitty artists are treated on Spotify
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 01, 2022, 12:03:59 pm
India Arie leaves over the discussions about race that occurred last week on that podcast...



Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 01, 2022, 12:33:56 pm
Graham Nash joins in the leaving Spotify
Has anyone checked in on David Crosby or Steven Stills? What is this is all just media ploy to hype a forthcoming CSNY reunion? The mind boggles at the possibilities.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 01, 2022, 01:09:10 pm
Graham Nash joins in the leaving Spotify
Has anyone checked in on David Crosby or Steven Stills? What is this is all just media ploy to hype a forthcoming CSNY reunion? The mind boggles at the possibilities.

in case of crosby i think it's a case of if he could he would... seeing as CSN&Y is still on the site
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: grateful on February 01, 2022, 01:15:43 pm
some heavy hitter must have told Spotify privately they would leave the service over Covid Misinformation, what else explains their abrupt policy shift over the weekend.

Members bailing, stock price plummeting. Oh, and Graham Nash.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: sweetcell on February 01, 2022, 02:34:15 pm
Adam Bates
The way the right weaponizes its victimhood complex would be funny if it weren't so dangerous. Just listening to rightwingers talk about this Spotify thing, I can't help but notice how much victim language they use in situations without any actual victim.
Neil Young did not attempt to "silence" Joe Rogan. Neil Young doesn't have, has never had, and will never have the power to silence Joe Rogan. If Spotify booted Joe Rogan, he would not be silenced. He would go to another platform or self-publish his podcast. That is the opposite of silent.
It is not "censorship" for a private actor to refuse to associate with another private actor he finds repugnant. It is not "an assault on free speech" for a private actor to refuse to associate with another private actor he finds repugnant.
What the right calls "free speech" is in reality the obliteration of free association.
Listening to these people characterize an entirely private dispute between two contractors and an employer like it's the goddamn Stasi closing down a newspaper is otherworldly.
These people are so desperate to be victims that they turn every single benign dispute into an attempt at martyrdom. You could write a book about this. Of course they'd probably have their schoolboards ban it.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2022, 02:58:51 pm
policy shift over the weekend.

Policy shift?   

We're going to make our standards policy public and put some sort of warning before podcasts that might contain misinformation.  And Joe posts a half apology on a competing platform and will "try to do better."

That's what happened this weekend.  The strategy is called "long-play" until this leaves the news cycle.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 01, 2022, 03:18:54 pm
policy shift over the weekend.

Policy shift?   

We're going to make our standards policy public and put some sort of warning before podcasts that might contain misinformation.  And Joe posts a half apology on a competing platform and will "try to do better."

That's what happened this weekend.  The strategy is called "long-play" until this leaves the news cycle.

ok my conspiracy theory was really half baked\poorly created, aren't most of them :D
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Starsky on February 01, 2022, 03:23:16 pm
Has David Crosby not pulled his stuff? He is always complaining about Spotify and getting robbed

Maybe he is ok now that he sold his publishing

And Neil and him are on the outs ever since bigmouth Crosby called Darryl Hannah a gold digger (he did the same with Nash who now also hates him)

This is a gimme: support Neil and you might be on the way to that big CSNY reunion paycheck otherwise get used to the Birchmere food
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on February 01, 2022, 05:15:53 pm
Crosby is no saint but he apologized numerous times to NY and is contrite about his past issues and difficulties he placed on others.

Nash is an egotistical dick and if you read his book you'd probably agree.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 01, 2022, 05:26:52 pm
what about Stills, does no one even care

Saw martin guitar posted a pic of him and said it was david crosby
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: sweetcell on February 01, 2022, 06:31:39 pm
because sticking it to the man by making nothing instead of $6 a month is SO METAL

Failure Are Removing Their Music From Spotify: “It’s Been a Scam for Artists Since the Beginning” (https://www.metalsucks.net/2022/02/01/failure-are-removing-their-music-from-spotify-its-been-a-scam-for-artists-since-the-beginning/)
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 01, 2022, 06:33:45 pm
because sticking it to the man by making nothing instead of $6 a month is SO METAL

Failure Are Removing Their Music From Spotify: “It’s Been a Scam for Artists Since the Beginning” (https://www.metalsucks.net/2022/02/01/failure-are-removing-their-music-from-spotify-its-been-a-scam-for-artists-since-the-beginning/)
good band name for a band no one has heard of or cares about
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: sweetcell on February 01, 2022, 06:40:19 pm
list of artists now (or soon to be) off spotify:
- Neil
- Joni
- Nils Lofgren
- Brené Brown
- Wendy Zukerman and Blythe Terrell
- India Arie
- G.Nash
- Failure!!!
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 01, 2022, 06:47:55 pm
Other than neil and joni, this is a pretty weak list
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Starsky on February 01, 2022, 10:49:15 pm
Well Joni and Neil are top ten songwriters so

Joni is arguably the only one who has gotten close to Bob… that may be hyperbolic but it’s the way I see it

I think of Leonard Cohen as more of a poet…like Robert Hunter..

Obviously Spotify has the artists by the balls…most I don’t think even have the power to get their music off Spotify. The record companies do

It’s a bummer that more musicians aren’t taking a stand but it’s good that Neil has set a precedent for holding Spotify accountable for its podcast content
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Starsky on February 01, 2022, 10:56:43 pm
Of course there may be plenty of artists who already don’t allow their music on Spotify

https://www.ranker.com/list/musicians-against-spotify/ranker-music#:~:text=Bob%20Seger%20also%20doesn%27t%20allow%20his%20music%20on,including%20The%20Black%20Keys%2C%20Coldplay%2C%20and%20Garth%20Brooks.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: sweetcell on February 02, 2022, 12:11:36 am
I think of Leonard Cohen as more of a poet…like Robert Hunter..

i spent a minute trying to find the quote and failed, but: i remember reading an interview with LC and he said, paraphrasing, that "people portray me as a poet, but i'm really just a singer with a guitar" - essentially, the opposite of what you're proposing.  YMMV, obviously.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 01:42:22 pm
so Neil's music is 50% owned by Hipgnosis, haven't heard squat about that
https://www.asktraders.com/analysis/does-hipgnosis-actually-own-the-neil-young-songs-in-spotify-row/
But this then calls into question that ownership by Hipgnosis of 50% of the Neil Young catalogue. This isn’t, after all, a revenue maximising move. So, does Hipgnosis really own the song rights, in that they can do as they wish with them? Promote, enhance the value? Or are they merely residual cash collectors. After the songwriters decide what they want to happen, Hipgnosis just gets a share of whatever income there is? That is, is the idea that Hipgnosis can increase the cashflow through management something that Neil Young has just disproven in this row with Spotify?



their stock is going down...maybe a good time to get in?
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 04:32:31 pm
JUST IN: All four members of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young have reunited to take on Spotify. They've pulled their respective solo catalogs as well as the music they made together from the platform.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 02, 2022, 04:34:52 pm
JUST IN: All four members of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young have reunited to take on Spotify. They've pulled their respective solo catalogs as well as the music they made together from the platform.

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Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Starsky on February 02, 2022, 04:39:20 pm
Kind of what I was waiting for…

It’s cool they could agree on something

Some of these guys had been good friends for decades before Nash and Crosby fell out with Neil

Personally CSNY is one of those bands I don’t get at all but their influence in the early 70s was huge… I was surprised reading Costello’s bio about how much he was into CSNY and the Band…same with Nick Lowe…those were their gods as young aspiring musicians
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 02, 2022, 04:45:49 pm
Did you see this poster I posted recently? (https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=22907.msg530659#msg530659) It really shows the simultaneous breadth and insularity of 60s & 70s California rock.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Starsky on February 02, 2022, 04:54:09 pm
Did you see this poster I posted recently? (https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=22907.msg530659#msg530659) It really shows the simultaneous breadth and insularity of 60s & 70s California rock.

Yeah that’s pretty great….

And it doesn’t even mention the Grateful Dead and Joni who both supposedly learned a lot about harmony singing from Crosby for two of my favorites: American Beauty and Blue

The Byrds really get short shift these days but they are the tree trunk for so much
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 02, 2022, 04:57:46 pm
The Byrds really get short shift these days but they are the tree trunk for so much

One of the very few American bands with contemporaneous influence on The Beatles (plus The Beach Boys).
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 05:02:37 pm
The Byrds really get short shift these days but they are the tree trunk for so much

One of the very few American bands with contemporaneous influence on The Beatles (plus The Beach Boys).
and the stones too
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 02, 2022, 05:41:22 pm
CSNY fans are the core Qobuz demographic  ;D
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 05:46:44 pm
CSNY fans are the core Qobuz demographic  ;D
koz gets .00034 every time he mentions Qobuz, and I just doubled it by quoting him ;)
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 02, 2022, 07:40:30 pm
CSNY fans are the core Qobuz demographic  ;D
koz gets .00034 every time he mentions Qobuz, and I just doubled it by quoting him ;)

Sweet


https://twitter.com/qobuzusa/status/1488927529318727680?s=21

Get Qobuz Duo for only $0.89 more per month! Our special Valentine's Day offer is available now until February 14, 2022. This discounted rate does not expire, even when your subscription renews
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 09:09:11 pm
Mary Trump

Looks like a CNSYT tour is really happening
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 03, 2022, 03:01:46 pm
Cliff Hillis

and for those in the cheap seats pipe down.. he writes fantastic Power Pop songs and should be a household name but alas...
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 03, 2022, 03:27:44 pm
Cliff Hillis
all I can tell from his twitter feed is he is pretty bad at wordle and not afraid to admit it
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 03, 2022, 03:57:13 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/273205235_10159560744851648_5457919304056189732_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=rn9Dgmywhp0AX8A5EfU&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AT_6kQisou21fDG4dJgM6p755ERilYll85DAFJ_7kd8SgQ&oe=62014E3E)
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 03, 2022, 04:05:53 pm
Amazing singer. All she does is hold her mouth open and the words come flying out.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2022, 02:12:50 pm
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/273022657_1868110773387734_1640899053630540663_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_eui2=AeHD7YZ-qsOlrYCaQOtG0uzRSAQsMnOWFqRIBCwyc5YWpH45UD3bgq8q1N27frlfchM&_nc_ohc=Jn30SzDGrH0AX-QNCPe&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=00_AT-a-iWMskRJCjZnU9Cs3-O7G3mmORPIevalEvefvTaPlA&oe=62034A28)
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 04, 2022, 02:44:14 pm
I #standwithjohn


“Don’t leave, don’t abandon, don’t censor, engage,” Stewart said to Rogan’s critics on the latest episode of The Problem With Jon Stewart podcast. “I’m not saying it’s it’s always going to work out fruitfully, but I am always of the mindset that engagement, and especially with someone like a Joe Rogan who is not, in my mind, an ideologue in any way…
Stewart then said the rhetoric surrounding Rogan is “overblown.” “This overreaction to Rogan, I think is mistake,” Stewart said. “I really do.”
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: Yada on February 04, 2022, 03:22:58 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/LeBatardShow/status/1489669907709050881

The Dead org being one of the money hungriest ever getting on board with this... I'll believe it when I see it!
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 05, 2022, 06:11:01 am
70 episodes of the JR podcast

It’s unclear why the episodes in question were pulled, and representatives for Rogan and Spotify did not respond to Rolling Stone‘s requests for comments. However, eagle-eyed fans of the controversial podcast on Reddit observed that many of the deleted episodes contained racial slurs, ableist language and other content that could be deemed insensitive. Users noted episodes featuring Tom Segura and Greg Fitzsimmons were likely removed for usage of the n-word. (The repeated usage of racially charged language on the_ Joe Rogan Experience _led singer-songwriter India Arie to pull her music from Spotify earlier this week.)


Cue outrage from the free speech crowd
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2022, 09:13:28 am
The rabid-right will screaming censorship from every corner of Twitter

When it’s just a just a business, not protected by 1A and I’m ok with that
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: GAY,GUY on February 05, 2022, 03:22:17 pm
Rogan is not surving this, now.  His show will be off Spotify by next week.

That, Planet of the Apes comment . . . jesus.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 06, 2022, 10:04:30 am
70 episodes of the JR podcast
i think it’s up to 110 now
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: GAY,GUY on February 06, 2022, 08:30:31 pm
Interesting to see Howard Stern getting wrapped up in all of this, now.

His response tomorrow, should be interesting.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 07, 2022, 05:10:43 pm
interesting....Rumble to offer Joe 100mil to come over to them

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/593117-rumble-offers-joe-rogan-100-million-to-bring-show-to-video-platform

Would neil return if joe left??
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 07, 2022, 05:17:36 pm
and in related satire

dave@david_d_tyler
NPR is quietly removing dozens of episodes of This American Life from their app where Ira Glass fails to find the sublime absurdity of our modern age
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: sweetcell on February 14, 2022, 05:19:06 am
list of artists now (or soon to be) off spotify:
- Neil
- Joni
- Nils Lofgren
- Brené Brown
- Wendy Zukerman and Blythe Terrell
- India Arie
- G.Nash
- Failure!!!

update: India.Arie Wants to Yank Her Music Off Spotify — But Her Label Won’t Let Her (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/india-arie-spotify-joe-rogan-interview-1299169/)
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 11, 2022, 06:18:47 pm
Donald Trump Is Scheduled To Go On The “Joe Rogan” Podcast.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 11, 2022, 07:15:59 pm
The battle of the word salads
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: sweetcell on March 25, 2022, 11:40:22 pm
latest to drop off Spotify?

Russia. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/25/russia-ukraine-war-news-biden-live-updates/#link-GGUCO345BFGY7D7H3TTYAEFUFA)


oh, sorry, meant "has been dropped by"... my bad.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2022, 04:07:14 pm
Donald Trump Is Scheduled To Go On The “Joe Rogan” Podcast.

fake news, unfortunately (https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/joe-rogan-shuts-down-donald-trump-jre-podcast-rumors-once-and-for-all-1787258/) :(

<puts popcorn away>
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2022, 03:36:40 pm
Likening Spotify and Apple to modern-day "slave trade," Snoop Dogg has pulled Death Row Records' music from major streaming services, with plans to create his own platform.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2022, 02:49:37 pm
Likening Spotify and Apple to modern-day "slave trade," Snoop Dogg has pulled Death Row Records' music from major streaming services, with plans to create his own platform.


Maybe he can save Tidal....
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: grateful on April 19, 2022, 02:53:14 pm
Likening Spotify and Apple to modern-day "slave trade," Snoop Dogg has pulled Death Row Records' music from major streaming services, with plans to create his own platform.


He should buy Chuck Brown's catalog and call the new service Peanuts.
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: sweetcell on April 19, 2022, 04:40:41 pm
^ quality comment
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 05, 2022, 07:36:07 am
“They can have Rogan or Young. Not both,”

Looks like we can have both…
(No word on Neil in the article)

Curious how long the others lasted

https://nypost.com/2022/07/04/crosby-stills-nash-rejoin-spotify-after-joe-rogan-protest/


Seems like last decade we were up in arms about joe Rogan
Title: Re: Dropping off Spotify
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 05, 2022, 05:51:52 pm
interesting...maybe this is why they singed back up (no, it's the money silly)

Joe Rogan just revealed he has rejected Trump’s interview requests multiple times. “I don’t want to help him. I’m not interested in helping him.” Rogan also referred to Trump as “an existential threat to democracy itself.”