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So lots of dumping on trump from the pundits
but I have seen some crazy vitriol from the MAGA crowd on DeSantis
Any hint that he might be presidential material is responded with ...you mean 2028 because there is zero chance that I'll vote for anyone but trump
I really hope this cleaves the party
that Trump actually creates a "Trump Party" and says FU to all the GOP elite
I can't believe how long the Party elite has allowed Trump to rule the party
mostly because they know he has the votes
I just don't think this can end well
So I expect we'll get an announcement from Trump soon, mostly because he'll use it as an argument (that most will believe) that inditing him is politically motivated and for that reason should be thrown out...alas new ways to run the clock
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Decent short list
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3731647-ranking-the-democrats-who-could-run-for-president-in-2024/
Gretchen is getting quite the notice
I Personally I think booker should be on this list
And I wish isnlee could get people more excited
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How do we feel about Mark Kelly?
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How do we feel about Mark Kelly?
he is kinda’space-y’
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You just had to do it didn’t you!! :)
Let me enjoy this one for a while…
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Decent short list
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3731647-ranking-the-democrats-who-could-run-for-president-in-2024/
Gretchen is getting quite the notice
I Personally I think booker should be on this list
And I wish isnlee could get people more excited
Corey Booker!? Surely you jest. Man has the personality of a dry mop. No one wanted him in 2020, what’s changed?
Any list that exists in the fantasy world where Biden does not get it needs to start with Colorado’s Governor Polis and Senator Bennett. There’s two variations on the Democratic theme to choose from and both can win in purple states.
Newsom has the electability of a jock strap outside California.
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Corey Booker!? Surely you jest. Man has the personality of a dry mop. No one wanted him in 2020, what’s changed.
Exactly nothing
He was really the first democrat senator talking about pot In the hallowed halls of the senate
I like his stance on prison reform and food/agriculture
Electable, I think so. It sure the democrat base thinks so.
I think he is very likable and that means a lot
I have very little faith Harris will win over the base at all, maybe with 51 senators we’ll hear and see a whole lot more of her
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No one has ever lacked juice like Corey Booker lacks juice.
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If Biden doesn’t run - and the midterms make it a certainty barring ill health that he will - then I can see Pete and Kamala slugging it out with a “Bernie Sanders Nation” candidate.
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No one has ever lacked juice like Corey Booker lacks juice.
So in Booker vs. DeSantis, you're calling Desantis?
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I see Pete in the last 3 for sure
I have knowledge of this, (decent 9:30 forum tagline)
does one day Biden, declare ‘I shall seek a second term “
And then it’s final, that’s who is running
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No one has ever lacked juice like Corey Booker lacks juice.
So in Booker vs. DeSantis, you're calling Desantis?
Its hard to say not knowing how the economy is, etc etc, when this hypothetical election was going to take place, but DeSantis is a better swing state candidate right now in 2022 than Booker by a wide margin. “Candidate quality matters” — wasn't that the lesson we were supposed to have learned last week?
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Am I crazy, does Jamie raskin have some national potential?
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Am I crazy, does Jamie raskin have some national potential?
He's very much like Bernie Sanders politically, and a Democratic Party member, but he doesn't exude the heat of Bernie that makes him compelling to people who would not normally support progressives. Light a fire under him and maybe.
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When was the last time you saw a House of Representatives member get their party’s nomination for the Presidency?
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When was the last time you saw a House of Representatives member get their party’s nomination for the Presidency?
oh i know i know!!! it's one happened once: john quincy adams!
(not only am i the life of the party, i KILL it at trivia - follow me to learn more!)
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Newsom has the electability of a jock strap outside California.
while that's not exactly how i would put it, yeah - newsom's candidacy is a non-starter. he has too much "california baggage" to be elected. i was just having this discussion 2 nights ago... not sure how anyone can think he'd work nationally.
Am I crazy, does Jamie raskin have some national potential?
not sure this country is ready for a jewish president.
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When was the last time you saw a House of Representatives member get their party’s nomination for the Presidency?
welp pretty much never, but I guess he needs to become a governor or senator first
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When was the last time you saw a House of Representatives member get their party’s nomination for the Presidency?
welp pretty much never, but I guess he's needed to become a governor or senator first
Josh Shapiro seems like a better Jewish pick.
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I mean, we can do senators, governors, SCOTUS, often half the cabinet, but POTUS is off the table
I agree Josh S now has a better chance after being elected Gov
Spitzer might have had a chance if he didn't go down in a ball of flames
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I have knowledge of this, (decent 9:30 forum tagline)
does one day Biden, declare ‘I shall seek a second term “
And then it’s final, that’s who is running
bumping this up to see if there is a known answer
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Ted is raging.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1592192962267877377
He goes on about Americans getting screwed. Does he consider the Americans who voted against the Republicans to not be Americans?
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He goes on about Americans getting screwed. Does he consider the Americans who voted against the Republicans to not be Americans?
to answer your question: he does.
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Newsom has the electability of a jock strap outside California.
while that's not exactly how i would put it, yeah - newsom's candidacy is a non-starter. he has too much "california baggage" to be elected. i was just having this discussion 2 nights ago... not sure how anyone can think he'd work nationally.
apparently this dude isn't feeling us:
Here’s a game plan: Biden replaces Harris with Newsom and then resigns (https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3728474-heres-a-game-plan-biden-replaces-harris-with-newsom-and-then-resigns/)
(...) That reality speaks to the need for a proven vote-getter with lots of money and a logistical machine behind him. In Politics 101, California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) meets — maybe even exceeds — those qualifications.
dude. i definitely want some of whatever he's smoking.
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Madness
Unless Biden keels over he will be the nominee (for better or for worse). That’s one of the things this election decided. And if he replaced Kamala with Gavin Newsom the African American community would lose its marbles.
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Madness
Unless Biden keels over he will be the nominee (for better or for worse). That’s one of the things this election decided. And if he replaced Kamala with Gavin Newsom the African American community would lose its marbles.
4,000
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this thread is well named
Kanye West announces he will again run for US President in 2024
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Iowa, Ohio, and Florida appear no longer to be closely divided states.
Therefore are no longer considered battleground states
Presidential campaigns start mapping
Also do we really believe that Ye asked Trump to be his VP
That’s crazy even for him
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That’s right…just look at the last presidential election and you can see how the next one will likely go as far as where parties will put emphasis
Democrats should look more to GA and NC than FL and OH.
Wisconsin is key ….We could have beat Ron Johnson there!
Then you got the Southwest where Democrats need Nevada and Arizona
So yeah the map has changed.
I really hope Democrats finally learn the lesson that FL and OH are a waste of time and money other than impact they can have on other states like Pennsylvania and Georgia (so yeah invest in Jacksonville TV market and part of Ohio that borders PA)
If Trump is the Republican I think we can hold it together. Not sure how Desantis will play…. Everyone talks about what a great candidate he is but I don’t see it…
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I think this is a great idea.
Always though Iowa was a joke place to start
Democrats voted to remove Iowa as the leadoff state on the presidential nominating calendar and replace it with South Carolina starting in 2024
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Always though Iowa was a joke place to start
an effective way of ensuring white political privilege.
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I think this is a great idea.
Always though Iowa was a joke place to start
Democrats voted to remove Iowa as the leadoff state on the presidential nominating calendar and replace it with South Carolina starting in 2024
Iowa was traditionally a swing state so it made sense. It is not now. Fortunately they’ve fixed that by moving to a state that’s always up for grabs: South Carolina.
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Does that mean that Iowa where the GOP will start?
Not remembering how this works
I mean last time was such a joke with the GOP with a bunch of states just canceling the primaries where other states were holding them
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An interesting take
The DNC has voted to approve a White House plan of moving South Carolina to the front of the line of the 2024 calendar, followed by Nevada and New Hampshire and onto Georgia and Michigan before Super Tuesday. Call it the President Biden re-election protection act.
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An interesting take
The DNC has voted to approve a White House plan of moving South Carolina to the front of the line of the 2024 calendar, followed by Nevada and New Hampshire and onto Georgia and Michigan before Super Tuesday. Call it the President Biden re-election protection act.
Its Biden’s nomination if he wants it regardless of state order.
This is really pretty good aside from SC (which is meant as a gesture to black voters but is electorally brain dead). The other states are fantastic.
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The really under-discussed repercussion of this is how many political ads am I going to have to see during Michigan games next fall and winter 2024 as a result of this?
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From Ole billy k
Unsettling news:
Election-denier Lake got 49.7% in AZ.
Super-flawed candidate Walker got ~48.5% in GA.
Johnson won WI with 50.5%.
So those states are very much in play for 2024. If my EC math is right, if Rs add those three to states they won in 2020, they win the presidency.
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bring on the GOP shitshow 2024.
My prediction is trump will continue to run and grift. Then continue to throw hand grenades in every direction. At both the dems and GOP. then will lose the first few states and realize there is no chance and drop out late in the game.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/12/13/trump-support-gop-2024-presidential-race-poll/10882346002/
this has got to be the smallest his base has ever been
31% want the former president to run
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My prediction is trump will continue to run and grift. Then continue to throw hand grenades in every direction. At both the dems and GOP. then will lose the first few states and realize there is no chance and drop out late in the game.
alternate ending: he loses the republican nom, so starts his own party and runs as a third-party candidate. the GOP begs him not to, rightly predicting that he'll split the conservative vote thus ensuring that the Dems keep the WH. trump won't care, because continued campaigning = continued grifting and he'll be aware this will be his last big chance to fleece the flock. dems could run biden's corps and they'd still win (probably will ;D ). trump is happy to murder the GOP in 2024 in return for cold hard cash.
epilogue: trump disappears, but his party remains. more competent right-wing nationalists who can form complete sentences rise in the ranks and vie for the conservative vote against a fading GOP. trump dies, but trumpism lives on.
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alternate ending: he loses the republican nom, so starts his own party and runs as a third-party candidate. the GOP begs him not to, rightly predicting that he'll split the conservative vote thus ensuring that the Dems keep the WH.
this is my dream. I've predicted this more than once, and so far have only felt foolish making that prediction
trump won't care
almost implying that he once did care
trump dies, but trumpism lives on.
ultimately the biggest threat we face. But it's very cult of personality, as we've seen Desantis or Don Jr clearly doesn't satisfy the hard core MAGA
I think in the end that 10-15 million MAGA voters will go back to under their rocks and won't vote in future presidential elections and that too may be the kill shot of what the GOP is today
only wild card on all of this is if the GOP really starts to lean into the Hispanic vote. It's not like they haven't done 180s multiple times on this topic in decades, biggest issue would be getting the GOP to shed its xenophobic and white supremist tendencies. They could easily gain 10 +mil voters here if done right
as a case could be made there are more 'getable' Hispanics than crazy white MAGAs
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Ranked choice voting comes to arlington!
https://wamu.org/story/22/12/19/arlington-ranked-choice-voting/
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Sidehatch seal of approval for this nickname
Pudding Paws
Felt this was a nothingburger story, but this nickname makes it all worth it
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Sidehatch seal of approval for this nickname
Pudding Paws
Felt this was a nothingburger story, but this nickname makes it all worth it
I'm a bit more troubled by the way he runs Florida than by the way he eats pudding.
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Sidehatch seal of approval for this nickname
Pudding Paws
Felt this was a nothingburger story, but this nickname makes it all worth it
I'm a bit more troubled by the way he runs Florida than by the way he eats pudding.
let me be clear, I'm 100% ok with using your digits to get to the bottom of a pudding cup
So that wasn't a ding in my eyes
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Robert F Kennedy Jr has filed election paperwork to run for US president in 2024 as a Democrat.
Other than he has less chance than Marianne Williams at winning the nomination, can he file when Biden still hasn't announced?
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Robert F Kennedy Jr has filed election paperwork to run for US president in 2024 as a Democrat.
Other than he has less chance than Marianne Williams at winning the nomination, can he file when Biden still hasn't announced?
yes he can file and it's Williamson, not Williams.
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Robert F Kennedy Jr has filed election paperwork to run for US president in 2024 as a Democrat.
Other than he has less chance than Marianne Williams at winning the nomination, can he file when Biden still hasn't announced?
yes he can file and it's Williamson, not Williams.
part of the patriarchy I see
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can he file when Biden still hasn't announced?
why would he not? an incumbent president running unopposed isn't guaranteed, it's just a recognition of reality: assuming a prez's first term isn't a total disaster, anyone running against him has almost zero chance of winning... so why bother going through the effort only to come out a loser? not a good look for future runs, i.e. in 4 years when the incumbent won't be in the way.
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But it's the democratic party, so I thought they could
like the Republicans with Trump, say there will be no primary for the party...right?
I can see no bar to run as an independent but thought the party had control to a certain degree on who runs
But clearly I don't know
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yes, the party could decide to not hold primaries if the incumbent runs - but the Dems haven't done that yet, so the field is open.
now that someone has declare their intent to run against biden, i wonder if that door has closed?
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So biden announces with a whimper...if you weren't paying attention you might have missed it
also...bernie is NOT running and endorses Biden...sorry NKOTB
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Did you expect him to announce while skydiving?
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Did you expect him to announce while skydiving?
That would be more of a George H. W. Bush move.
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Did you expect him to announce while skydiving?
I think the best announcement would be him taking a big hit from a bong, holding it in, and then blowing it out.
"I'm Joe Biden, I want your vote in 2024"
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Did you expect him to announce while skydiving?
I think the best announcement would be him taking a big hit from a bong, holding it in, and then blowing it out.
"I'm Joe Biden, I want your vote in 2024"
If Biden somehow limps in to win this election, no way he makes it four years.
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Did you expect him to announce while skydiving?
I think the best announcement would be him taking a big hit from a bong, holding it in, and then blowing it out.
"I'm Joe Biden, I want your vote in 2024"
If Biden somehow limps in to win this election, no way he makes it four years.
As president or as a breathing human? Life expectancy for a 82 yr old white male is 7.32 years.
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Limps?
Things are going as well as possible….I am not going to blame Biden for inflation.
I think he will live many many more years. I think his dad lived to 86 and mother to 92! Not only that, he receives the best medical care in the world!! I would expect him to live another 15 years!
Democrats seem obsessed with his age. I don’t get it. And the guy -even in his younger days- was a gaffe machine. Just focus on results.
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Did you expect him to announce while skydiving?
I think the best announcement would be him taking a big hit from a bong, holding it in, and then blowing it out.
"I'm Joe Biden, I want your vote in 2024"
If Biden somehow limps in to win this election, no way he makes it four years.
As president or as a breathing human? Life expectancy for a 82 yr old white male is 7.32 years.
Both... but he looks like my grandpa in his final days of life. He has that stare.
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Limps?
Things are going as well as possible….I am not going to blame Biden for inflation.
I think he will live many many more years. I think his dad lived to 86 and mother to 92! Not only that, he receives the best medical care in the world!! I would expect him to live another 15 years!
Democrats seem obsessed with his age. I don’t get it. And the guy -even in his younger days- was a gaffe machine. Just focus on results.
Fred Trump lived to the age of 93.
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His writers deserve a raise
“If you find yourself disoriented or confused you’re either drunk or Marjorie Taylor Greene,” President Biden said At the WH correspondents dinner
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file footage not found
Things are going as well as possible….I am not going to blame Biden for inflation.
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Trump guilty of sexual abuse and must pay $5 million
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Liable. This is civil. We could call him guilty if it were criminal.
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I knew I should have gone to law school!
That damned LSAT
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Oh please it will get appealed all the way to the corrupt SCOTUS, because Witch Hunt and he’s the most innocent person EVER!
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He can appeal but it’s still another black mark…I think they add up for anyone that’s not his base…
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So Santos gets charged with a bunch doing a bunch of illegal stuff, but it will be crickets from MTG the de facto speaker of the house and republicans because WITCH HUNT and some dude with the last name Biden made some money.. not that making money on one's name has ever EVER happened in conservative circles
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Sorry, George Santos is the coolest man in DC and shouldn't be penalized for having a good time!!!!
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I personally feel great knowing this party is our last line of defense against fascism!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvyfLfZX0BITr4K?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
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^ she clearly fought fascism the first time 'round, so she has experience...
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lol
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Is that the same party that ran a campaign against this George Santos character and lost?
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Now that's not fair. That would be like running a campaign against the Fonz and being surprised you lost.
Is that the same party that ran a campaign against this George Santos character and lost?
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Now that's not fair. That would be like running a campaign against the Fonz and being surprised you lost.
Is that the same party that ran a campaign against this George Santos character and lost?
I lost to the Fonz once
never again!
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Now that's not fair. That would be like running a campaign against the Fonz and being surprised you lost.
Is that the same party that ran a campaign against this George Santos character and lost?
I lost to the Fonz once
never again!
And now look at you Barry Berkman, typing this from a prison cell.
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And now look at you Barry Berkman, typing this from a prison cell.
You might be an episode or two behind, bro.
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And it’s on baby…
NEW POLL: Former President Trump is leading President Biden by a 7-point margin in a hypothetical 2024 matchup
gonna be a wild two years
I am worried people will get hurt, that does suck to think that going into a presidential election
Sum f’edup times
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Sen. Tim Scott files paperwork to run for president in the 2024 election
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this is really going to be a bonkers election
RNC just listed requirements for their debates....which are pretty standard until they get to this part
Perhaps the thorniest issue for the RNC and some candidates is that the party will require those participating in the debate to sign a loyalty pledge agreeing to support the eventual party nominee. Some critics have questioned the enforceability of the pledge to support the eventual nominee.
The party will also require candidates to commit to a data-sharing agreement and pledge not to participate in any debate the RNC has not sanctioned.
Former President Donald Trump, who is leading the majority of national polls of the primary field, has already threatened to skip the first two debates. At the first primary debate in 2016, he refused to commit to backing the eventual party nominee if it was not him.
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Call me old fashioned but knock on wood if we keep adding 400,000 jobs a month until August 2024 I got to think Biden’s got it in the bag. That would be like close to 20 million jobs under Biden. Yeah inflation sucks, the market is recovering from the pandemic and he falls down but come on. You got to think wages are going up in the next 18 months.
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I think it’s highly unlikely monthly job growth is that linear of a thing — under any administration — for any significant period of time. That’s just not how that metric works. As you get close to zero unemployment, job growth has to slow just mathematically.
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I think it’s highly unlikely monthly job growth is that linear of a thing — under any administration — for any significant period of time. That’s just not how that metric works. As you get close to zero unemployment, job growth has to slow just mathematically.
Well it hasn’t in 28 months….despite the Fed
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Who is giving him money?? Seems likely to get 0.001% of the votes
Former Vice President Mike Pence announced he’s running for president in 2024 on Wednesday
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It was going to come out soon or later, but I too will be seeking the republican presidential nomination.. gofundme going live soonish
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It was going to come out soon or later, but I too will be seeking the republican presidential nomination.. gofundme going live soonish
Well anybody who can simultaneously serve as a forum moderator and a governor is industrious and worthy of consideration. You go Doug!
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/north-dakota-governor-doug-burgum-join-2024-republican-primary-race-2023-06-07/
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It was going to come out soon or later, but I too will be seeking the republican presidential nomination.. gofundme going live soonish
Well anybody who can simultaneously serve as a forum moderator and a governor is industrious and worthy of consideration. You go Doug!
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/north-dakota-governor-doug-burgum-join-2024-republican-primary-race-2023-06-07/
The North Dakota air and sun are really serving Kosmo well since he's started spending time there. He looked so haggard and used up, like a toothpaste tube that had been sat on by an elephant, last time I saw him. Great advertisement for the state.
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Will Hurd thinks he got what it takes to lead the GOP in 2024
and Flordia Man Rick Scott thinking very hard about it
we are at 13 candidates and Trump isn't participating in any debates
also the GOP is still making them sign a loyalty pledge...which trump won't sign
...this should be fun
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Now here is a candidate I can get behind
, Afroman intends to run as an independent for the 2024 presidency, pledging to be “Our Cannabis Commander in Chief. Our Pot Head of State.”
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yes it's early...but the thing people always miss on the POTUS election...is it's all about the battleground states
national polls are meaningless.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8zREMXWIAAUXen?format=png&name=large)
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Who misses that, lemmings?
I will begin paying attention to polls in June/July….
Still it’s striking how many lemmings there are in this country….how can Trump even be competitive?
Keyword: Lemming
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really thought you were on to something, but name taken
https://www.facebook.com/thelemmingsband/
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At this point polls measure excitement
Is anyone excited by Biden?
No. But people will vote for him on the end cause the alternative is too crazy to contemplate
There are headwinds….inflation- whatever numbers say- really took a bite out of people’s paychecks after the midterms. Let’s hope paychecks begin to address that and catch up a bit
But unless something really crazy (like WW3 shudders) happens Biden is going to be re-elected. And Trump being the Republican candidate is the best possible scenario.
Having said that, Biden best keep visiting PA, MI etc
Biden is a very good politician and just locked up a lot of $ for his campaign
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Good thing he's not stoking anything that could lead to that scenario!
But unless something really crazy (like WW3 shudders) happens Biden is going to be re-elected.
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I know! Has Biden learned nothing from WW2? Let the ruskies have Ukraine and the Palestinians Israel and the world will be a safer place. Appeasement works.
I am the first to usually criticize US foreign policy but standing with Israel and Ukraine is the right thing to do for our own national security.
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Aside from the questionable morality of funding a genocide, I guess you do have a point. I can't think of any instance in the past where our government's islamophobia, unwelcome intervention or butchery of innocent lives in the middle east has ever come back to bite us years later!
I know! Has Biden learned nothing from WW2? Let the ruskies have Ukraine and the Palestinians Israel and the world will be a safer place. Appeasement works.
I am the first to usually criticize US foreign policy but standing with Israel and Ukraine is the right thing to do for our own national security.
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Oh no we totally disagree!!
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Aside from the questionable morality of funding a genocide, I guess you do have a point. I can't think of any instance in the past where our government's islamophobia, unwelcome intervention or butchery of innocent lives in the middle east has ever come back to bite us years later!
have you learned nothing, 9/11 was an inside job
You need to look up the definition of genocide
apartheid or ethnostate would be more appropriate
Also, where were you at the A Giant Dog show. I hung with Vas/Challenged and there was only 100 people there
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Seems pretty cut & dry to me!
The deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
You need to look up the definition of genocide
apartheid or ethnostate would be more appropriate
Unfortunately i didn't...someone brought some bug home from school so we were all banged up this weekend. Bummed I had to miss it.
Also, where were you at the A Giant Dog show. I hung with Vas/Challenged and there was only 100 people there
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I do not agree with you!
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Seems pretty cut & dry to me!
The deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
You need to look up the definition of genocide
apartheid or ethnostate would be more appropriate
So what do you define as a large number of people?
and not sure Israel is doing a good job of genocide considering there were something like 2 Million Palestinians in 1990 and now it's over 5 Million
When I think Genocide, I think of murdering 100's of thousands at the very least 10's of thousands (think Nazis/Rwanda even Bosnia was more 'genocidal')
While 3k is still a lot of people (and horrible), in a population of 5 million...hardly genocide
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I do not agree with you!
yeah, he definitely should have gone to the A giant dog show
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That's the number from their current campaign only, and obviously doesn't include the death toll from other violent means like the horrid conditions they're forced to live under.
Let's take the definition from the Geneva Convention, something (I would assume) we all think is good and something we should follow:
"Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group; [CHECK]
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; [CHECK]
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; CHECK
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [CHECK]
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. [depending on your definition, CHECK]
Just because they might not be as successful as they want doesn't change what they're doing, and what we're paying for.
Looks like a duck, etc. etc.
While 3k is still a lot of people (and horrible), in a population of 2 million...hardly genocide
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Let's take the definition from the Geneva Convention, something (I would assume) we all think is good and something we should follow:
"Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; CHECK
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [CHECK]
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. [depending on your definition, CHECK]
can't say I agree on these last three (first two for sure)
the birth ones seems way off as their population is growing at a fast pace
not sure about forcibly transferring children either. (but there is a lot I don't know)
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hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.
Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.
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since I was suckin' my moms teet.
weird flex as that wasn't that long ago
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We are paying for?
Israel is a highly developed wealthy country. You seem to think it’s 1955!
We give money and weapons to our friends and even sometimes our frenemies. Egypt, Jordan get our money etc.
Israel is not dependent on our aid.
Heck they have like 15 Nobel Prize winners!
Have you ever visited the Middle East? Israel is like a beacon on the hill compared to the repressive totalitarian states around them! I mean Arabs in Israel vote. Heck the Palestinians don’t even have a functioning democracy. I mean either Hamas are being elected by the people of Gaza or they are dictators. Take your picky. I place most of the blame for the situation the Palestinians are in on the Palestinians and their supposed Arab friends who do nothing for them.
But yeah…blame Israel and the Jews…it’s always the Jews to blame….they just had 1300 people plus blown to bits by terrorists who have more than 200 hostages including Americans and let’s blame Israel for genocide.
Give me a break.
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hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.
Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.
Oh no did I hurt your feelings?? Yada, just stop
And don’t take my statements out of context or ascribe things to me that I never said.
Propagandist.
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hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.
Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.
Oh no did I hurt your feelings?? Yada, just stop
And don’t take my statements out of context or ascribe things to me that I never said.
Propagandist.
No... you didn't hurt my feelings at all, but your cold heart is showing, that's for sure.
What statements did I take out of context? You told me I couldn't provide you with any facts that you didn't know and you've backed the Palestinian people since I was a baby... so pretty sure i'm quoting you.
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lol come on man
We are paying for?
We give money and weapons to our friends and even sometimes our frenemies. Egypt, Jordan get our money etc.
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Just checking in for my daily update on how our own personal Lincoln/Douglas debate is proceeding. All good, I see.
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I do not agree!
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Listening to you guys makes me realize why my wife implores me to stop talking about politics.
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WOW
it’s always the Jews to blame
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hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.
Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.
Oh no did I hurt your feelings?? Yada, just stop
And don’t take my statements out of context or ascribe things to me that I never said.
Propagandist.
No... you didn't hurt my feelings at all, but your cold heart is showing, that's for sure.
What statements did I take out of context? You told me I couldn't provide you with any facts that you didn't know and you've backed the Palestinian people since I was a baby... so pretty sure i'm quoting you.
Oh now I am cold hearted.
For what? Saying I leave it up to Israel to determine what they need to do for their security in the wake of an unprecedented terrorist attack? That is the extent of my statement and I stand by it but you seem to draw an inference that I condone mass murder.
I never said Israel should do what you seem to accuse them of doing.
Gotta say Yada I am surprised at what you are accusing me of. I can take it but you should be careful about making such assumptions. It’s one thing to have different positions or opinions but when you start saying those with opinions different to yours are condoning mass murder….at that point I would say the conversation is over. Good day.
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Do I need to post pictures of kittens again??
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Couldn’t hurt….
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hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.
Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.
Oh no did I hurt your feelings?? Yada, just stop
And don’t take my statements out of context or ascribe things to me that I never said.
Propagandist.
No... you didn't hurt my feelings at all, but your cold heart is showing, that's for sure.
What statements did I take out of context? You told me I couldn't provide you with any facts that you didn't know and you've backed the Palestinian people since I was a baby... so pretty sure i'm quoting you.
Oh now I am cold hearted.
For what? Saying I leave it up to Israel to determine what they need to do for their security in the wake of an unprecedented terrorist attack? That is the extent of my statement and I stand by it but you seem to draw an inference that I condone mass murder.
I never said Israel should do what you seem to accuse them of doing.
Gotta say Yada I am surprised at what you are accusing me of. I can take it but you should be careful about making such assumptions. It’s one thing to have different positions or opinions but when you start saying those with opinions different to yours are condoning mass murder….at that point I would say the conversation is over. Good day.
Give me a break... did I hurt your feelings hutch?
You're the one that insisted on this conversation happening on the forum.
Edit: and yes, you are condoning mass murder if you feel that Israel is handling this the way it should be.
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I do agree!
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Kittens!
Enjoy your weekend, have a beer, listen to some records, go for a walk
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A lot of Arab Americans in Michigan….
Biden isn’t exactly threading the needle right now
Would hate to see a repeat of 2000 Florida where we lost election due to Elian G.
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I have just about zero national name recognition… maybe I should run for president
Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips announced Thursday night that he would be launching a long-shot Democratic primary challenge to President Joe Biden.
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I have just about zero national name recognition… maybe I should run for president
Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips announced Thursday night that he would be launching a long-shot Democratic primary challenge to President Joe Biden.
Lead singer of Luna, right?
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My understanding is he is the son of the mamas and papas dude. His sister was in Wilson Phillips.
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My understanding is he is the son of the owner of the elite restaurant chain Phillips Seafood, who coincidently is also was the founder of duPont's Philips Collection and more amazingly, his great-granddad was the inventor of the Phillips Screwdriver.
(George Santos told me this, so not sure if it's true)
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Sounds credible!
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My understanding is he is the son of the owner of the elite restaurant chain Phillips Seafood, who coincidently is also was the founder of duPont's Philips Collection and more amazingly, his great-granddad was the inventor of the Phillips Screwdriver.
(George Santos told me this, so not sure if it's true)
oh yeah, space is correct.
he normally doesn't advertise that he took Britta's last name, but the paperwork is out there, I've seen it on Twitter
this guy has some pedigree
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His step-grandmother was also Dear Abby.
Phillips was born to DeeDee (Cohen) and Artie Pfefer in Saint Paul, Minnesota, in 1969.[10] Artie was killed in the Vietnam War when Phillips was six months old. DeeDee later married Eddie Phillips, heir to the Phillips Distilling Company and the son of advice columnist Pauline Phillips.
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In his first interview as a Senate candidate, Peter Meijer says he stands by his vote to impeach Trump *and* will support Trump's 2024 presidential run.
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In his first interview as a Senate candidate, Peter Meijer says he stands by his vote to impeach Trump *and* will support Trump's 2024 presidential run.
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It’s just amazing to see how unpopular Biden is according to polls.
The country is at peace. The country is safe. The economy is managing to continue growing even when everyone believes it should be in a recession.
Yet, it doesn’t resonate.
The current context is beginning to remind me of 2000.
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At my polling place this morning, a nice old lady was collecting signatures to get Biden on the ballot. As we finished talking, she kind of gave a sad "i hope things aren't close". Kind of bummed me out...even she didn't really seem to believe it, at least at this point.
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It’s just amazing to see how unpopular Biden is according to polls.
The country is at peace. The country is safe. The economy is managing to continue growing even when everyone believes it should be in a recession.
Yet, it doesn’t resonate.
The current context is beginning to remind me of 2000.
before freaking out about any polls A YEAR before the election, have a look at the methodologies: those polls still rely largely, or entirely, on cold phone calls to land-lines. so the population polled is land-line owners who are willing to pick up a call from an unknown number... i'll let you infer what age group & demographic that greatly, greatly over-represents.
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I am not freaking but he is unpopular and most think he is too old.
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The answer is: Dean Phillips!
A Luna record in every household!
(his appearance on Maher was pretty sad, but he tried)
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I am not freaking but he is unpopular and most think he is too old.
Inflation is incredibly high. Hunter Biden's behavior was, at best, shady. The climate is on fire. Totalitarianism strongment are winning the world over. Biden has given up on inspiring anyone and has decided to play it safe and be better than the alternative. And add in the fact that he just cannot communicate. Of course he's unpopular, he's not even trying to be popular.
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I am not freaking but he is unpopular and most think he is too old.
Inflation is incredibly high. Hunter Biden's behavior was, at best, shady. The climate is on fire. Totalitarianism strongment are winning the world over. Biden has given up on inspiring anyone and has decided to play it safe and be better than the alternative. And add in the fact that he just cannot communicate. Of course he's unpopular, he's not even trying to be popular.
Basically since Obama, I've given up completely... Couldn't care less who wins at this point. All the front runners are bums.
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looks like your boy Larry Hogan will be on the no labels ticket...
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I am not freaking but he is unpopular and most think he is too old.
Inflation is incredibly high. Hunter Biden's behavior was, at best, shady. The climate is on fire. Totalitarianism strongment are winning the world over. Biden has given up on inspiring anyone and has decided to play it safe and be better than the alternative. And add in the fact that he just cannot communicate. Of course he's unpopular, he's not even trying to be popular.
Basically since Obama, I've given up completely... Couldn't care less who wins at this point. All the front runners are bums.
Trying but can’t blame Biden for any of it….even having a shady son
The most I could blame him for is the additional stimulus check once he took power adding to inflation pressures …but that was a tough call in early 2021…still in retrospect looks like an error… yet the US economy weathered covid better than any other so there is that
One can hardly blame Biden for the March of authoritarianism or climate change…that was already happening and not really things a US President can address by himself
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Being president of the US rules...most powerful person in the world who has exactly zero ability to influence things for the better!
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I am not freaking but he is unpopular and most think he is too old.
Inflation is incredibly high. Hunter Biden's behavior was, at best, shady. The climate is on fire. Totalitarianism strongment are winning the world over. Biden has given up on inspiring anyone and has decided to play it safe and be better than the alternative. And add in the fact that he just cannot communicate. Of course he's unpopular, he's not even trying to be popular.
Basically since Obama, I've given up completely... Couldn't care less who wins at this point. All the front runners are bums.
Trying but can’t blame Biden for any of it….even having a shady son
The most I could blame him for is the additional stimulus check once he took power adding to inflation pressures …but that was a tough call in early 2021…still in retrospect looks like an error… yet the US economy weathered covid better than any other so there is that
One can hardly blame Biden for the March of authoritarianism or climate change…that was already happening and not really things a US President can address by himself
I blame Biden for pleny of policy.
But it's his inability to actually communicate that is the real thing dragging him down. Whatever you think about Trump, he is an effective communiactor.
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Whatever you think about Trump, he is an effective communiactor.
bigly 🙄
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Trump is an effective communicator only in the most blunt way possible. Require him to use any nuance at all and he morphs into static.
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morphs into static.
hey that's the title of my next ep
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Trump is an effective communicator only in the most blunt way possible. Require him to use any nuance at all and he morphs into static.
I can't explain why he's effective. I don't think it should work, but it obviously does. I mean, DeSantis tries to ape him and can't. Same with Cruz and Abbott.
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Being president of the US rules...most powerful person in the world who has exactly zero ability to influence things for the better!
There you go again….there is a big difference between the Biden presidency and the Trump presidency. If you don’t see that…
I mean what do you people want? He should have kidnapped and tortured Manchin until he got his vote on the climate change bill?
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Being president of the US rules...most powerful person in the world who has exactly zero ability to influence things for the better!
There you go again….there is a big difference between the Biden presidency and the Trump presidency. If you don’t see that…
I mean what do you people want? He should have kidnapped and tortured Manchin until he got his vote on the climate change bill?
Biden has tons of executive authorities that he could have used on climate and refused. Staring with EPA refs that have been slow and weaker than necessary, to DOI that has continued to approve drilling, to DOE that is approving gas exports to FERC which stalled its greenhouse gas rules. There is simply no way to say that Biden has been aggressive on the issue or treated it as a crisis. It might be bad politics for him to do so, he certainly thinks it is, but it doesn’t mean he can’t or that young voters scared about the issue don’t see it.
But I still think his biggest issue is communication style. He’s just not been very good at selling what he has done, and ultimately that’s as important as what you’ve actually done.
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Uh oh…you seem to actually know what you are talking about….
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The thing is republican's love to tout the spending of federal money for their states/districts which they voted against. how is biden suppose to counter that...
also, as someone pointed out where was the media coverage of Biden of announcing 16 Billion dollars in infrastructure spending in Delaware the other day. oh wait i'm being told it was more important to provide coverage of someone throwing yet another public tantrum in a courtroom, my bad
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Beshear 2024!
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Not sure who that is but I'm thinking
Whitmer and someone from VA 2024
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Ok, let's put aside for the second that Biden is a) the president of the US, and b) the head of his party, and assume he has no power to pressure anyone on his side of the aisle to fall in line. Seems odd, given history has shown that to be achievable and the Republicans seem to have no problem doing it, but let's present we live in Hutch world.
He'd still have plenty of things he could have done if he had a spine and wasn't so tied to bullshit norms and formality. He could've overruled the parliamentarian and given people the $15 minimum wage Dems have been promising. He could've used the Higher Ed Act to actually make good on his campaign promise to forgive during his campaign. He could've declared the climate collapse as a national emergency.
Not saying any of those guarantees of success or even without legal challenges, but he simply doesn't even want to try.
Being president of the US rules...most powerful person in the world who has exactly zero ability to influence things for the better!
There you go again….there is a big difference between the Biden presidency and the Trump presidency. If you don’t see that…
I mean what do you people want? He should have kidnapped and tortured Manchin until he got his vote on the climate change bill?
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Gavroche had me at hello but you lose me…..
Maybe have Gavroche present your thoughts for you?
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Is your hat on too tight?
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I been going hatless lately….just not feeling it
Baseball cap is loose.
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Beshear 2024!
after hearing his acceptance speech for a state like KY...he has potential as a national candidate
he has my interest piqued.
other than the Dems don't want a white male,
he checks a lot of boxes and got re-elected as Gov in a state that has Mitch/Rand and voted Trump by 30 points in 2016 and 26 points in 2020
Almost all the down-ticket votes went R in KY
edit...not sure why I say "I must say" so much
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I been going hatless lately….just not feeling it
That's why no one got my Hutch Halloween costume...I wore a top hat to a rock show
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I think after last night we won’t see Democratic candidates deviate much from focusing on abortion rights/anti-MAGA “extremism”
In other words it will all be about painting the Republicans as scary and crazy.
Ideally Democrats in swing states will put abortion rights initiatives and measures on the ballot in 2024 to drive up the Biden vote and depress the Republican share.
I have to be honest that having seen the ads Democrats ran in Virginia I find this a bit depressing but that’s politics.
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Meanwhile, back in DC...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-approves-bill-slashing-pete-buttigiegs-salary-1-dollar
The House approved a measure late Tuesday that would slash Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg's taxpayer-funded government salary to just $1.
The bill — which was introduced by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga. — was passed via voice vote Tuesday as an amendment to the 2024 Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act, the standalone funding bill for the General Services Administration, Securities and Exchange Commission and other related agencies.
"I’m proud to announce my amendment to FIRE Pete Buttigieg just PASSED the House. Pothole Pete staged fake bike rides to the White House and used private planes funded by taxpayers to receive awards for the way certain people have sex," Greene said in a social media post Tuesday. "American taxpayers should not be on the hook for paying for his lavish trips or his salary."
"Pete Buttigieg doesn’t do his job. It’s all about fake photo ops and taxpayer-funded private jet trip to accept LGBTQ awards for him," Greene added. "I’m happy my amendment passed, but he doesn’t deserve a single penny."
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"used private planes funded by taxpayers to receive awards for the way certain people have sex," Greene said
ok, now you have my attention...are their any opening for this job?
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The thing is republican's love to tout the spending of federal money for their states/districts which they voted against. how is biden suppose to counter that...
also, as someone pointed out where was the media coverage of Biden of announcing 16 Billion dollars in infrastructure spending in Delaware the other day. oh wait i'm being told it was more important to provide coverage of someone throwing yet another public tantrum in a courtroom, my bad
I'm not sure if the politics of spending and government awards work anymore. Wealth inequality and the sense that the system is rigged might have just undone it all.
If the Democrats really wanted that though, it would be smarter to direct spending to winnable states. Instead Democrats keep passing bills (like the IRA and IIJA) where the benefits go predominantely to red states and where they won't get credit no matter what they do. Trump did just the opposite; the bills that has pased going overwhelmingly to his base and targeted his oponents (SALT for example). It's for sure asymetrical. One side is trying to break government in order to take control of it.
I don't really know how Reagan was able to remain pupular despite high inflation, but even if wages were keeping up with inflation, it's just psychologically battering to go to the store and be shocked every time you get the bill. Probably because the economic experts liked his solution of tax cuts and rewards for business and so the narrative was that Regan was fighting it.
I don't think the Republicans really care about touting wins though. For them it's really about culture wars and big ticket issues. I don't think Biden is particularly good at appearing like he's going to the matt for a cause (even abortion). He might win as a result of not alienating anyone, but it's a hard way to ever have real popularity
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Apparently the Transportation bill that look at me MTG got that amendment on, is dead in the water because there aren’t enough vote for it…
But, she’ll go on ever right outlet can spewing this “ achievement”
It’s a darn good thing that they elected such a strong leader… the shutdown will be long and nasty
And I like today’s revelation that reason Johnson isn’t reporting an savings account is because his money isn’t in interest earning ones.. because that isn’t shady at all
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If the Democrats really wanted that though, it would be smarter to direct spending to winnable states. Instead Democrats keep passing bills (like the IRA and IIJA) where the benefits go predominantely to red states and where they won't get credit no matter what they do. Trump did just the opposite; the bills that has pased going overwhelmingly to his base and targeted his oponents (SALT for example).
this is 100% accurate.
Apparently, the IRA is going to benefit states like FL and TX so much, that these states almost don't have to collect taxes there will be so much in the coffer
and not one Red voter in those states will 'reward' the dems for this largesse
but I'm not sure I agree this is what the Dems should do, but it wouldn't hurt to do some 'good things' for the 8 battleground states in the next year
Apparently the Transportation bill that look at me MTG got that amendment on, is dead in the water because there aren’t enough vote for it…
it's all for show and saying they 'did something' when the reality is they did nothing
if it's not going to even pass the house, it's like shouting into the void (or your preferred echo chamber)
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Beshear 2024!
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1722068864693891159?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1722068864693891159%7Ctwgr%5E874e6b8e141341734185ebe2e3fb0bb2e03d6bb2%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dcurbanmom.com%2Fjforum%2Fposts%2Flist%2F255%2F1166628.page
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Beshear 2024!
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1722068864693891159?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1722068864693891159%7Ctwgr%5E874e6b8e141341734185ebe2e3fb0bb2e03d6bb2%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dcurbanmom.com%2Fjforum%2Fposts%2Flist%2F255%2F1166628.page
yeah, saw something similar last night
Angry Staffer 🌻@Angry_Staffer
Wanna ruin a Republican’s night?
Let ‘em know that the KY Governors Race has predicted the Presidential election in the previous 5 cycles.
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He could've overruled the parliamentarian and given people the $15 minimum wage Dems have been promising. He could've used the Higher Ed Act to actually make good on his campaign promise to forgive during his campaign. He could've declared the climate collapse as a national emergency.
Son, the adults are talking, why don't you run along?
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7.5 million Americans watched latest Republican debate or about 2% of Americans
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12732397/Viewing-figures-Republican-debate-drop-NBC.html
I still have a hard time believing Trump will be the Republican candidate.
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I still have a hard time believing Trump will be the Republican candidate.
you have a hard time, but you know it will happen?
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Bazinga
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Bazinga
thought for sure this was the first time this was used...but appeared many times already
also in related news
Dems are now rushing to get similar abortion measures on the ballot next year in Arizona, Nevada and Florida
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Jill's back!
Jill Stein announced that she is running for president in 2024 as a Green Party candidate.
finally, a candidate that NKOTB can support
well there is Claudia de la Cruz but has attained ballot lines in any states.
so that works out perfectly
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I don’t know that Jill passes NKOTB’s purity test….might as well elect Trump…
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I actually have never voted for Jill Stein, which may surprise Hutch. She kind of lost my interest when she started talking some 9/11 truther-adjacent stuff a few years back. I hadn't seen that she was running again, but I guess that's because Cornel West went from the People's Party (lol) to the Green and then as an independent.
Claudia de la Cruz seems pretty great IMO, but yeah, I don't think PSL gets on the ballot here. I feel like they were on the DC ballot in 2020, but I might be mistaken.
All in all, pretty grim!
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as if the onion was trying to goad NKOTB
The Onion@TheOnion
Critics Warn Jill Stein Candidacy Could Harm Cornel West’s Chances Of Being Elected
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lol we don't need her spoiling the spoiler!!!!
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spoiling the spoiler!!!!
the title of my next ep
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https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/will-joe-manchin-run-for-president-democrats-fear-a-disaster-c19952ec
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https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/will-joe-manchin-run-for-president-democrats-fear-a-disaster-c19952ec
What if everyone abandoned Biden and voted Manchin and he won? Would that beso horrible?
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Well, that hypothetical is impossible so why waste time contemplating it?
One might as well ask what if pigs could fly would that be so bad?
I mean progressives would never vote for him and neither would black people. And there is no way he would peel off enough Republican votes.
The American middle is smaller than ever so this type of run is not plausible. Honestly a Biden primary challenge from the left flank is the most plausible scenario. But it would have to have been AOC and thankfully she is still too young! Hard to believe. Someone like a Bernie but much younger and a female minority could have been a threat….now it’s too late.
Also, is a 76 year old white man the right person to challenge Biden and / or Trump?
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And yes I am home tonight cause I have a memorial service tomorrow morning…
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Also, is a 76 year old white man the right person to challenge Biden and / or Trump?
YES!!!! That is exactly what we need
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Tim Scott has dropped out.
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It seems like Jill Stein is more of a risk to Dems than actual Democrats like Joe Manchin or Dean Phillips
Who would actually vote for those guys?
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It seems like Jill Stein is more of a risk to Dems than actual Democrats like Joe Manchin or Dean Phillips
Who would actually vote for those guys?
I am throwing my 🎩 in the ring…. If I can peel enough votes in Arlington I can throw Virginia to Trump.
Working on my platform
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It seems like Jill Stein is more of a risk to Dems than actual Democrats like Joe Manchin or Dean Phillips
Who would actually vote for those guys?
Jill Stein couldn't help Hillary, she isn't going to be able to help herself (even enough to be a spoiler). I think I'd be concerned most about Cornell West.
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How does RFK Jr play into it?
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How does RFK Jr play into it?
he really only seems to pull votes from trump
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So we should donate to his campaign?
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Jill Stein couldn't help Hillary,
I . . . I don't think she was trying to?
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Jill Stein couldn't help Hillary,
I . . . I don't think she was trying to?
Embarssing slip up on my part, I was thinking of Gloria Steinam! I stand by the rest of the statement though.
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Jill Stein couldn't help Hillary,
I . . . I don't think she was trying to?
Embarssing slip up on my part, I was thinking of Gloria Steinam! I stand by the rest of the statement though.
So refreshing that you just admitted it instead of trying to have an argument for five pages defending the idea that Jill Stein was trying to help Hillary like half of this rabble would do. POTW.
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Crestfallen.
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The Economist with its rosy predictions
The Economist’s annual “World Ahead” guide identifies Donald Trump as the biggest global danger of 2024.
“n the 38 years that we have published this guide, no single person has ever eclipsed our analysis as much as Donald Trump eclipses 2024.”
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2023/11/16/donald-trump-poses-the-biggest-danger-to-the-world-in-2024
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shame to lose such talent ;)
Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.), who is mounting a long-shot Democratic primary challenge to President Biden, said Friday he won't seek reelection to the House in 2024.
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shame to lose such talent ;)
Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.), who is mounting a long-shot Democratic primary challenge to President Biden, said Friday he won't seek reelection to the House in 2024.
At least he's all in for the Presidency!
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another sign of the Apocalypse
(https://i.imgur.com/EBKWQms.png)
wapo
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another sign of the Apocalypse
(https://i.imgur.com/EBKWQms.png)
wapo
i've been reading a number of articles stating that the US is heading for (if not already in) a dating/marrying/childbearing crisis due to political polarization. specifically, left-leaning women are refusing to date right-leaning men. example meta-article: The Washington Post is very worried that American women don't want to marry Trump supporters (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/11/26/2207925/-The-Washington-Post-is-very-worried-that-American-women-don-t-want-to-marry-Trump-supporters).
of the 3 or 4 articles on the topic i've read, the proposed solution is either unknowable or for women to compromise. not a single one posited that these right-wing dudes could find romantic success by abandoning their support for anti-abortion policies, cuts to social spending, increased gun rights, and other regressive policies.
incels going mainstream on the right...
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The Washington Post is very worried that American women don't want to marry Trump supporters
well in playing the long game, this tactic will work in 20-25 years as we'll use natural selection to remove them from the population
might be a little longer as we have to wait for all the living not dateable to expire too
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another sign of the Apocalypse
(https://i.imgur.com/EBKWQms.png)
wapo
i've been reading a number of articles stating that the US is heading for (if not already in) a dating/marrying/childbearing crisis due to political polarization. specifically, left-leaning women are refusing to date right-leaning men. example meta-article: The Washington Post is very worried that American women don't want to marry Trump supporters (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/11/26/2207925/-The-Washington-Post-is-very-worried-that-American-women-don-t-want-to-marry-Trump-supporters).
of the 3 or 4 articles on the topic i've read, the proposed solution is either unknowable or for women to compromise. not a single one posited that these right-wing dudes could find romantic success by abandoning their support for anti-abortion policies, cuts to social spending, increased gun rights, and other regressive policies.
incels going mainstream on the right...
I guess that's good news for my to the right of her parents daughter?
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yeah, she'll have her pick of all the right-wing douchebags... have at!
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yeah, she'll have her pick of all the right-wing douchebags... have at!
There's plenty of fine people who lean left and plenty of fine people who lean right. There's plenty of douchebags throughout the political spectrum as well. I'm hoping she ends up with one of the fine people, which is more important than their politics.
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yeah, she'll have her pick of all the right-wing douchebags... have at!
There's plenty of fine people who lean left and plenty of fine people who lean right. There's plenty of douchebags throughout the political spectrum as well. I'm hoping she ends up with one of the fine people, which is more important than their politics.
with today's trends, you'll be lucky to get grandkids
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You really can’t be a “fine” person and vote Republican.
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You really can’t be a “fine” person and vote Republican.
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You really can’t be a “fine” person and vote Republican.
Nah guys. There are very fine people on both sides.
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You really can’t be a “fine” person and vote Republican.
If you had said vote Trump, I would have to agree. I'm not going to cut out all of the right-leaning (not right-nutters, right-leaning) people in the world as bad people. There are plenty of right leaning men who will make excellent husbands and fathers.
This is probably a good litmus test though: I don't have a problem with you marrying someone right of center, but please don't marry anyone who voted for Trump in 2024.
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You really can’t be a “fine” person and vote Republican.
If you had said vote Trump, I would have to agree. I'm not going to cut out all of the right-leaning (not right-nutters, right-leaning) people in the world as bad people. That's pretty narrow minded. There are plenty of right leaning men who will make excellent husbands and fathers.
This is probably a good litmus test though: I don't have a problem with you marrying someone right of center, but please don't marry anyone who voted for Trump in 2024.
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It’s not narrow minded.
At best these people are stupid and/or ignorant.
At worse traitors and/or cruel and/or bigoted.
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This could definitely help get the house back to the democrats
New York's highest court, has greenlit Dems drawing a new congressional map in the state in a 4-3 ruling.
This will allow Dems to draw a friendlier map & gain bunch of seats in House.
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Gerrymandering is great……when it benefits the party I support
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Shhh, not supposed to say that out loud
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Oh man this is gonna be one wild election cycle
Maine just removed Trump from their ballot
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Primary ballots...can't see that stopping him being the nominee
Oh man this is gonna be one wild election cycle
Maine just removed Trump from their ballot
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Primary ballots...can't see that stopping him being the nominee
Oh man this is gonna be one wild election cycle
Maine just removed Trump from their ballot
Would this not also remove him from the general, even if he's the GOP nominee?
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Primary ballots...can't see that stopping him being the nominee
Oh man this is gonna be one wild election cycle
Maine just removed Trump from their ballot
Would this not also remove him from the general, even if he's the GOP nominee?
well, while I always hate to admit it, NKTOB is right
just primary
I think the GOP could nominate anyone if they want to regardless of what the states do
it's weird, you think it would be bad news for stuff like this to happen to a POTUS candidate, but if anything, it looks like it will bring people to the polls
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Voting still happens at the state level. Trump might have to get on the general election ballot as an independent or a write-in, but he wouldn't appear as a Republican. I think. Just spitballing here, could be wrong.
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well, while I always hate to admit it, NKTOB is right
just primary
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Primary ballots...can't see that stopping him being the nominee
not unless a lot more states join in on not having him on the ballot. he can easily still get the nom without CO and ME.
I think the GOP could nominate anyone if they want to regardless of what the states do
wait, are you suggesting that the GOP could put forth a candidate for the general election even if that candidate didn't win their primary? i.e., "eff you republican primary voters, we're going with our guy over who you chose"??
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Well, maybe not.
I was thinking how they didn't hold primaries in many states for the GOP because he was the incumbent
didn't realize that was standard in both parties and over time
But I could see that if he's off the ballot on a few states and wins a majority of the others, they would pull something like that
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Not to revisit the Dems in 2008 but there’s absolutely a path where a party could put forth a nominee who did not win the required primaries. There’s so much political fanfic written about this.
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Lol but the vast majority of Republican voters want him to be the nominee
i.e., "eff you republican primary voters, we're going with our guy over who you chose"??
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Lol but the vast majority of Republican voters want him to be the nominee
i.e., "eff you republican primary voters, we're going with our guy over who you chose"??
i'm not saying otherwise. i was trying to understand the hypothetical put forward by hatch, wherein the candidate in the general isn't the winner of the party's primary.
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man, this is just going to keep getting uglier
I agree with it, but it will defiantly bring ALL the crazies to the polls
we just have to hope there are more level-headed Americans...and I'm not sure there are
@AP
Lawsuit aims to keep Pennsylvania congressman off ballot over Constitution’s insurrection clause
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also, swift is leaning on the scale again...and lots of her fans now are voting age as well
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCyC6OEXkAAtKgt?format=jpg&name=900x900)
although didn't help with Mitch
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Iowa caucus in 11 days
interesting note on NH happening on jan 23
Ballots in New Hampshire will feature 24 Republican candidates and 21 Democratic candidates (and not Biden)
buy stock in Orville Redenbacher
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I think this is a great, not sure how he'll be, what a great story
running in MD 3rd district
U.S. Capitol against a rioting mob on Jan. 6, former U.S. Capitol Police Officer Harry Dunn announced that he’s running for Congress.
his campaign add is great
https://x.com/libradunn/status/1743234238290198748?s=20
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With Nikki nipping at his heels, Trump pulls out one of his deep cuts and cries Birther!
Guy is such a dicka and that’s why they love him
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And crispy Christy drops out
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(https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq2wlchVjr1qk2qdbo3_500.gif)
With Nikki nipping at his heels
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I agree polls suck, but no one has gotten even close to 30 points behind him, she just was only 7 points behind.
Jan. 4-8 University of New Hampshire Survey Center Trump 39% 32% Haley Trump +7
yes nationally it's like a 50 point lead, but Haley beating trump in NH could actually have a big impact
Also, I loved the mic drop moment of Hunter walking out just as MTG was starting to speak
boss move
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Congressional main accomplishment YTD is not shutting down the government
How low a bar do we need to set
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Welp we know who the gop candidate is now
BREAKING: Nikki Haley gets all six votes in Dixville Notch.
Haley: 100%
Trump: 0%
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Rigged!!!!
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Welp we know who the gop candidate is now
BREAKING: Nikki Haley gets all six votes in Dixville Notch.
Haley: 100%
Trump: 0%
"once again, the fake mainstream news is flogging their fake stories about me. this is a travesty of justice like you've never seen before. they love me in Dixville, they adore me there, some say the town was named after me..."
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So do we even think Haley can last a month to her home state primary and super tue
It was closer than I expected, but NH is a unique state for the GOP
The GOP can’t quit Trump, he brings people to the polls
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The GOP can’t quit Trump, he brings people to the polls
supposedly because of his milkshake. it's better than yours.
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The GOP can’t quit Trump, he brings people to the polls
supposedly because of his milkshake. it's better than yours.
He could apprentice thee, but would have to levy a fee.
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Biden got more write-in votes in New Hampshire then Trump did
and to put the Iowa Caucus shit show in perspective Muriel Bowser once got more primary votes then Trump managed in Iowa...
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Biden got more write-in votes in New Hampshire then Trump did
and to put the Iowa Caucus shit show in perspective Muriel Bowser once got more primary votes then Trump managed in Iowa...
The DC primary for mayor IS the official election compared to a caucus
not a very 🍎 to 🍏
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True the vote has told a Georgia judge that it doesn’t have evidence to support its claims of illegal ballot stuffing during the the 2020 general election and a runoff two months later.
Hate those folks and irrevocable damage done
Can’t tell how many people have used their bs as “evidence of fraud “. When in fact they were the fraud all along
Like project veratis a bunch of scammers who have zero issue lying
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Can’t imagine the party of Lincoln will take this well
Documents reveal Abraham Lincoln pardoned Biden’s great-great-grandfather
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No Labels Will Abandon 2024 Presidential Campaign Effort
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I just don’t see how Biden can lose unless something truly insane happens
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/05/heres-where-the-jobs-are-for-march-2024-in-one-chart-in-one-chart.html
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I just don’t see how Biden can lose unless something truly insane happens
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/05/heres-where-the-jobs-are-for-march-2024-in-one-chart-in-one-chart.html
gas prices, unfortunately.
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also, there is this stubborn perception that the american economy is tanking (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/04/biden-us-economy-worlds-best-trump-claims-cesspool-data-is-clear.html), even tho it's actually doing great. biden needs to get better messaging around this.
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Dude you are just regurgitating conventional “wisdom”
Gas prices in April aren’t going to decide election for lots of reasons.
Now if the Middle East continues going to hell…we will have bigger problems than “gas prices”
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gas is one, but grocery prices have definitely shot up 20-25% in the last few years and that's adding $500 a month or more to avg Americans monthly costs
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I mean I agree there has been unusual inflation but in the context of Covid stimulus - nobody turned down their checks as I recall- and of having the world’s best performing economy.
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I mean it didn’t cost democrats much when it was raging and now that wage growth is higher than inflation and millions more are employed it’s going to cost Biden the presidency? It beggars belief
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This is bad news
https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-gop-election-workers-2024-rcna148620
Thread appropriate :
even using apocalyptic language to warn of another potential loss.