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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on December 17, 2022, 10:21:11 am
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I had not been to City Winery before, which is too bad because I heard on this board that it was a decent place to see a show. I find it kind of preposterous that the proprietors of City Winery are blaming neighborhood crime for the venue closing. Did Ivy City actually get worse in the five years that City Winery was open? I highly doubt it.
Anyway, Ivy City has always been a pain in the ass to reach without driving. I find it absurd that there isn't a single decent bus line going up and down NY Ave NE. A major blind spot in DC transportation and WMATA service.
https://wtop.com/dc/2022/12/popular-dc-winery-to-close-citing-safety-concerns/
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Wow…didn’t see this coming!
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Yeah that’s a lame excuse
I am sure the costs to open In ivy city were almost 1/3 to open anywhere
Because it was still a sketchy area
If anything safety has increased 1000% in that area
Sour grapes IMO
Although any business that made it through the last 2 years to throw in the towel now seems crazy
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Yeah that’s a lame excuse
TAN: Starbucks is closing a number of locations in downtown Seattle due to "safety concerns." the city does have an acute homelessness problem, and there has been an uptick in violence.
in a completely unrelated coincidence, SBUX HQ assures us, those locations happen to be newly unionized stores. what are the chances!
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Terrible location, Terrible bookings, Terribly uncomfortable seeing a show there (twice since it was open)... I mean, same issue with birchmere, annapolis ram's head, etc... it just sucks no matter which way you cut it sitting at a dinner table watching a show.
So I think a lot of circumstances add up, but yes the location is Terrible.
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The best brewery in the city is right down the street, and their taproom is at about 25% capacity on a Friday night.
I wonder how the ax throwing place is doing?
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Terrible location, Terrible bookings, Terribly uncomfortable seeing a show there (twice since it was open)... I mean, same issue with birchmere, annapolis ram's head, etc... it just sucks no matter which way you cut it sitting at a dinner table watching a show.
So I think a lot of circumstances add up, but yes the location is Terrible.
Depends on the show. I saw Magnetic Fields and Loudon Wainwright there and it was basically perfect IMO. Assigned seats, good sound and views, decent food, free water (!), easy to find parking in the neighborhood. Some shows it's nice to sit down especially if you're of a certain age.
That said I won't go to the Birchmere even though I live down the block from it. The whole rigamarole to get you to buy their terrible food ,pay water, crammed seating...just not worth it.
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Terrible location, Terrible bookings, Terribly uncomfortable seeing a show there (twice since it was open)... I mean, same issue with birchmere, annapolis ram's head, etc... it just sucks no matter which way you cut it sitting at a dinner table watching a show.
So I think a lot of circumstances add up, but yes the location is Terrible.
Depends on the show. I saw Magnetic Fields and Loudon Wainwright there and it was basically perfect IMO. Assigned seats, good sound and views, decent food, free water (!), easy to find parking in the neighborhood. Some shows it's nice to sit down especially if you're of a certain age.
That said I won't go to the Birchmere even though I live down the block from it. The whole rigamarole to get you to buy their terrible food ,pay water, crammed seating...just not worth it.
I don't mind it if it's a full table of people you know, but when some pear shaped gent's legs are bumping into mine or they're yackin' with their date the whole show, I don't enjoy it.
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I can’t stand seated shows. Horrible
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not that this one incident was the reason, but I noticed the reporting of this horrific story is she was there to see a concert
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/virginia-woman-killed-in-stabbing-inside-hotel-room-in-northeast-dc/3321310/
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not that this one incident was the reason, but I noticed the reporting of this horrific story is she was there to see a concert
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/virginia-woman-killed-in-stabbing-inside-hotel-room-in-northeast-dc/3321310/
Geez Louise. That guy should get the death penalty.
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Horrible story.
Those hotels are really motels and sketchy as fuck. Never stay in a motel where the rooms are directly accessible from the parking lot.
I didn’t realize that was Ivy City. No wonder City Winery shut down.
that judge that released the killer…..
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Horrible story.
Those hotels are really motels and sketchy as fuck. Never stay in a motel where the rooms are directly accessible from the parking lot.
I didn’t realize that was Ivy City. No wonder City Winery shut down.
that judge that released the killer…..
I think it kind of depends where it's located. I've stayed in motels like that a million times, especially when I was younger and poorer. I wouldn't do it in Ivy City though. Though I go to Ivy City for beer at Other Half every month or two.
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Geez Louise. That guy should get the death penalty.
9,000
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Well I agree those motels aren’t an automatic guarantee you will be stabbed 30 times and die….most of the time you will be ok.
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Well I agree those motels aren’t an automatic guarantee you will be stabbed 30 times and die….most of the time you will be ok.
My wife and I stayed in a three star hotel (Market Street, so-so neighborhood) with a reception desk and lobby entry) for several nights in San Francisco back in the early 2000's. We came back from a day of touristing to find hotel entry much stiffer and a security presence.
We watched the local news that evening, and apparently a guest in our hotel ( don't recall the details on the guest or the killer or the incident though I read about it later) had been stabbed to death.
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There are no guarantees in life. You play the odds and hope for some luck.
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Well I agree .... you will be stabbed 30 times and die….most of the time you will be ok.
Rushdie came out ok, you people are a bunch of beta males
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Absolutely horrific story and the social media comments I've seen have been disgusting placing blame on the victim..
Unfortunately, unfamiliar people with the area see a affordable hotel close to the venue and just book it (not sure how but the reviews I guess were above average). I know I've stayed in some sketchy dumps over the years...
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Unfortunately, unfamiliar people with the area see a affordable hotel close to the venue and just book it (not sure how but the reviews I guess were above average). I know I've stayed in some sketchy dumps over the years...
this was a horrible thing, no doubt about it, I couldn't imagine getting that news about someone I knew or was related to
but it was also VERY uncommon and random. Yes you increase your chances by staying at a sketchy hotel
I would venture that your chance of dying driving (almost daily) on 495 VS. getting randomly stabbed to death in a sketchy hotel room
prove me wrong
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False equivalence.
If you drove on 495 daily to get to your permanent room in a sketchy hotel, I'd think that would be a more equal comparison.
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False equivalence.
If you drove on 495 daily to get to your permanent room in a sketchy hotel, that would be an equal comparison.
hmm...OK I will buy that
Ok leave out the daily, I said that mostly because people take risks that are deadly every day but don't really think about it
30k people a year die in car accidents, chances are pretty good you might vs being stabbed 30 times by some random chance in a sketchy hotel room in all the US
there are not even 100 sketchy motel stabbings a year, every year (I hope you don't prove me wrong on that one)
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I have driven by those hotels in Ivy for decades. Always crackheads and hoes around. It’s a risky area for an out of towner. I remember going to echo stage to see the Replacements. They stole my hubcaps in a parking lot!
Reminds me of gas stations around Dunn NC off of I95…..skeeeeetchy shit.
Poor woman.
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I was thinking this happened because she was going to a concert at City Winery, which would make sense that she would book a room in Ivy City.
But this happened the other day.
So she was going to a concert *elsewhere* in the city and chose to stay in Ivy City? Damn. I mean, there's cheap motels in better locations...
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I was thinking this happened because she was going to a concert at City Winery, which would make sense that she would book a room in Ivy City.
But this happened the other day.
So she was going to a concert *elsewhere* in the city and chose to stay in Ivy City? Damn. I mean, there's cheap motels in better locations...
Echostage.... which is .5 miles from Ivy City motel... can't imagine finding a better hotel anywhere in that area. Obviously this person didn't know that's a dump hell hole of a place to stay when visiting WDC.
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Thing is just found out she was a Yorktown (Arlington) graduate so not entirely a clueless out of towner.
Obviously the fault is the judge that released the killer and crazy killer’s and I hope he Burns at the stake.
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Thing is just found out she was a Yorktown (Arlington) graduate so not entirely a clueless out of towner.
Obviously the fault is the judge that released the killer and crazy killer’s and I hope he Burns at the stake.
I don't know the details, but I read the previous crimes were armed robbery...so he is not a good guy, I get that
but not sure as a judge you would even suspect this same person would just one day ride his bike to the local dive motel to chop the first person who opened the door
I'd be more upset is if he did rape or kill someone brutally and then the judge was lenient
I think armed robbery is definitely in the bad person column, but not as bad as the rapey/stabby type who should be granted little clemency
but the recent grad from the area you would think would know that was sketchy
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I agree he should die a slow painful death... happy Easter.
Same thing just happened in wheaton like two weeks ago. A piece of shit that was in jail for years was out less than a few days and shot a woman in the face in broad daylight at the mall.
Edit: https://www-fox5dc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.fox5dc.com/news/dc-man-charged-with-multiple-carjackings-shooting-woman-in-the-face-outside-wheaton-mall.amp?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16809719076656&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fox5dc.com%2Fnews%2Fdc-man-charged-with-multiple-carjackings-shooting-woman-in-the-face-outside-wheaton-mall
Put a bullet in this man's head too
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Thing is just found out she was a Yorktown (Arlington) graduate so not entirely a clueless out of towner.
Obviously the fault is the judge that released the killer and crazy killer’s and I hope he Burns at the stake.
I don't know the details, but I read the previous crimes were armed robbery...so he is not a good guy, I get that
but not sure as a judge you would even suspect this same person would just one day ride his bike to the local dive motel to chop the first person who opened the door
I'd be more upset is if he did rape or kill someone brutally and then the judge was lenient
I think armed robbery is definitely in the bad person column, but not as bad as the rapey/stabby type who should be granted little clemency
but the recent grad from the area you would think would know that was sketchy
If he had just one robbery ok but come on dude had multiple stuff on his record, was homeless…and the judge basically overruled another judge
I really can’t believe anyone would defend his release after seeing what happened!
But this is the new model… let people out unless they did something really horrible…it’s a very complex issue but there are also racial elements to it…and of course there are also drugs which (or their absence) can contribute to people doing crazy things
Blaming the victim is not the way to go (I say that for me and anyone else).
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Blaming the victim is not the way to go (I say that for me and anyone else).
100% random person in random situation. Wasn't like the hotel was known for stabbings
I mean ivy city has come a long way in the last decade, 30 years ago I got nervous if I was low on gas in that area
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This was a shocking to read
This the tenth reported carjacking in Arlington so far this year
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Not surprising when this is what Arlington picked
https://www.arlingtonva.us/Government/Departments/Courts/Commonwealth-Attorney/Meet-Parisa
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Not surprising when this is what Arlington picked
https://www.arlingtonva.us/Government/Departments/Courts/Commonwealth-Attorney/Meet-Parisa
I assume this is your gripe
and has an abiding attachment to Star Trek.
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This was a shocking to read
This the tenth reported carjacking in Arlington so far this year
Ok as a follow up, this was shocking news to hear in arlington
Someone is shooting rabbits with blow darts
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/10/awla-someone-is-shooting-rabbits-with-blow-darts/
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This was a shocking to read
This the tenth reported carjacking in Arlington so far this year
Ok as a follow up, this was shocking news to hear in arlington
Someone is shooting rabbits with blow darts
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/10/awla-someone-is-shooting-rabbits-with-blow-darts/
Shhhh. If you keep this up, City Winery is never going to pick Arlington as their new DC location.
Side note: My wife really wants to see Kamasi Washington (I was out of town during his 2022 date, she didn't want to go alone), and he's doing a City Winery only tour. Hence, no DC date. Because of this shit (the closing, not the blow darts.)
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Because of this shit (the closing, not the blow darts.)
I would not rule out the blow darts
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This was a shocking to read
This the tenth reported carjacking in Arlington so far this year
Ok as a follow up, this was shocking news to hear in arlington
Someone is shooting rabbits with blow darts
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/10/awla-someone-is-shooting-rabbits-with-blow-darts/
Shhhh. If you keep this up, City Winery is never going to pick Arlington as their new DC location.
Side note: My wife really wants to see Kamasi Washington (I was out of town during his 2022 date, she didn't want to go alone), and he's doing a City Winery only tour. Hence, no DC date. Because of this shit (the closing, not the blow darts.)
I thought your wife hated live music.
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This was a shocking to read
This the tenth reported carjacking in Arlington so far this year
Ok as a follow up, this was shocking news to hear in arlington
Someone is shooting rabbits with blow darts
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/10/awla-someone-is-shooting-rabbits-with-blow-darts/
Shhhh. If you keep this up, City Winery is never going to pick Arlington as their new DC location.
Side note: My wife really wants to see Kamasi Washington (I was out of town during his 2022 date, she didn't want to go alone), and he's doing a City Winery only tour. Hence, no DC date. Because of this shit (the closing, not the blow darts.)
I thought your wife hated live music.
I thought she hated Space?
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I can't even imagine how she feels about Space Music. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_music)
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This was a shocking to read
This the tenth reported carjacking in Arlington so far this year
Ok as a follow up, this was shocking news to hear in arlington
Someone is shooting rabbits with blow darts
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/10/awla-someone-is-shooting-rabbits-with-blow-darts/
Shhhh. If you keep this up, City Winery is never going to pick Arlington as their new DC location.
Side note: My wife really wants to see Kamasi Washington (I was out of town during his 2022 date, she didn't want to go alone), and he's doing a City Winery only tour. Hence, no DC date. Because of this shit (the closing, not the blow darts.)
I thought your wife hated live music.
I thought she hated Space?
can confirm
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This was a shocking to read
This the tenth reported carjacking in Arlington so far this year
Ok as a follow up, this was shocking news to hear in arlington
Someone is shooting rabbits with blow darts
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/10/awla-someone-is-shooting-rabbits-with-blow-darts/
Shhhh. If you keep this up, City Winery is never going to pick Arlington as their new DC location.
Side note: My wife really wants to see Kamasi Washington (I was out of town during his 2022 date, she didn't want to go alone), and he's doing a City Winery only tour. Hence, no DC date. Because of this shit (the closing, not the blow darts.)
I thought your wife hated live music.
I thought she hated Space?
I had been telling her for many many months, perhaps even a year...that I was gunning to go to a work conference in June 2022. A work conference that was covering things that I was very interested it, and heck I just wanted to travel and interact with people in person. The first time in years that travel had been allowed. I had planned work trips trips to Philly, Mexico City, and Seattle all cancelled because of the pandemic.
So I targeted this conference in June as the first one that would be allowed. I targeted it a year in advance. I skipped the conference that was at a better, more interesting location in February, because I figured that at that point, travel would still not be allowed (I was right.) So I was telling her all this a year in advance.
So reservations were made, registration was paid for a few months in advance, etc...and I had plans to do this relatively small work trip (short enough that I chose to drive rather than fly, so I could have a car while there and because I like road trips.)
Anyway, my wife is always talking about this Kamasi Washington song she likes, and I'm reading the schedule for Sixth and I (in, I don't know, sometime in April after all my travel plans are in place and have been in place for long enough that I've kind of forgotten the dates), and I see Kamasi Washington on the schedule. And the show is a week after her birthday, so I figure...yeah I'll get us tickets for that as part of her (50th) birthday celebration. But I better ask her about it, because I know she doesn't like live music. So I ask her, and she loves the idea, and says yes, that would be so romantic.
So it's a few days later, and I still haven't gotten tickets, and I check the dates, and I realize the show is smack in the middle of my work trip. So I break it to her that I won't be able to take her, but maybe I could get her tickets and she could take our daughter or a friend or just go alone. And she asks me why would I schedule a work trip when Kamasi Washington is playing a show in DC? And why can't you just cancel the work trip (which work has already paid the registration fee for?) And wonders why I say it's not feasible for me to drive from Pittsburgh back to Virginia and back to Pittsburgh later that night in the middle of a work trip so that we can see Kamasi Washington at Sixth and I?
And she's added this to the long, specific list of things she busts my balls about every time the perimenopause sets the mood in the wrong direction. So I still here about it 10 months later.
So I'd really, really love to have a Kamasi Washington show to go to at City Winery DC. So fuck them for closing down their DC location.
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I had been telling her for many many months, perhaps even a year...that I was gunning to go to a work conference in June 2022. A work conference that was covering things that I was very interested it, and heck I just wanted to travel and interact with people in person. The first time in years that travel had been allowed. I had planned work trips trips to Philly, Mexico City, and Seattle all cancelled because of the pandemic.
So I targeted this conference in June as the first one that would be allowed. I targeted it a year in advance. I skipped the conference that was at a better, more interesting location in February, because I figured that at that point, travel would still not be allowed (I was right.) So I was telling her all this a year in advance.
So reservations were made, registration was paid for a few months in advance, etc...and I had plans to do this relatively small work trip (short enough that I chose to drive rather than fly, so I could have a car while there and because I like road trips.)
Anyway, my wife is always talking about this Kamasi Washington song she likes, and I'm reading the schedule for Sixth and I (in, I don't know, sometime in April after all my travel plans are in place and have been in place for long enough that I've kind of forgotten the dates), and I see Kamasi Washington on the schedule. And the show is a week after her birthday, so I figure...yeah I'll get us tickets for that as part of her (50th) birthday celebration. But I better ask her about it, because I know she doesn't like live music. So I ask her, and she loves the idea, and says yes, that would be so romantic.
So it's a few days later, and I still haven't gotten tickets, and I check the dates, and I realize the show is smack in the middle of my work trip. So I break it to her that I won't be able to take her, but maybe I could get her tickets and she could take our daughter or a friend or just go alone. And she asks me why would I schedule a work trip when Kamasi Washington is playing a show in DC? And why can't you just cancel the work trip (which work has already paid the registration fee for?) And wonders why I say it's not feasible for me to drive from Pittsburgh back to Virginia and back to Pittsburgh later that night in the middle of a work trip so that we can see Kamasi Washington at Sixth and I?
And she's added this to the long, specific list of things she busts my balls about every time the perimenopause sets the mood in the wrong direction. So I still here about it 10 months later.
So I'd really, really love to have a Kamasi Washington show to go to at City Winery DC. So fuck them for closing down their DC location.
this is some next-level Gone With the Wind type shit.
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I feel like Space made a fatal mistake not checking his calendar for conflicts before telling her about this show. There are SO MANY shows I don’t tell my wife about because they’d logistically be super difficult for me and either I would have to bear that burden or she would be disappointed about missing something she never would’ve discovered on her own.
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My partner always busts my chops about the Charles Aznavour show I went to while she was on a work trip. She says she wouldn’t have gone on the trip and that I didn’t tell her. I think he was like 90 and it turned out to be amazing. I gave my extra box ticket to some guy on the street. You see my partner is a major Francophile.
Aznavour blew me away. I shouldn’t have said anything but it was so good… in a bit cheesy French kinda way.
Obviously Aznavour never came back to the US and died…
It really was a once in a lifetime show so I feel bad about it.
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I feel like Space made a fatal mistake not checking his calendar for conflicts before telling her about this show. There are SO MANY shows I don’t tell my wife about because they’d logistically be super difficult for me and either I would have to bear that burden or she would be disappointed about missing something she never would’ve discovered on her own.
some good relationship advice here
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I feel like Space made a fatal mistake not checking his calendar for conflicts before telling her about this show. There are SO MANY shows I don’t tell my wife about because they’d logistically be super difficult for me and either I would have to bear that burden or she would be disappointed about missing something she never would’ve discovered on her own.
You 100% nailed it. I should have checked the dates and never have let on about knowing about the show. Unfortunately, I was excited to find an actual show that she would have been excited about and I would have been ok with seeing.
What do you guys do when you discover a show that you know your partner would like and you know you would hate (and if you told your partner about it, you'd likely end up having to go with the them.) Do you tell them, or keep quiet and hope they don't discover it (in all llikelihood, mine won't.)
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This was a shocking to read
This the tenth reported carjacking in Arlington so far this year
Ok as a follow up, this was shocking news to hear in arlington
Someone is shooting rabbits with blow darts
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/10/awla-someone-is-shooting-rabbits-with-blow-darts/
if things weren’t bad enough in arlington… now a bank robbery w/ hostages
https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/11/breaking-police-surround-wells-fargo-in-clarendon-after-robbery/
Maybe we need to close the southern border
North Carolina man.
Wasn’t the guy who shot up the pizza place from NC
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Thank God its not the Wells Fargo I use to pick up weed.
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Thank God its not the Wells Fargo I use to pick up weed.
Here's his mugshot. He looks like he was coming from your Wells Fargo.
(https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox5dc.com/www.fox5dc.com/content/uploads/2023/04/932/524/Oscar-Gonzalez-Allarenja.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
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You jest but I do think that guy has dropped me off gummies before, so . . . :o
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Thank God its not the Wells Fargo I use to pick up weed.
Here's his mugshot. He looks like he was coming from your Wells Fargo.
(https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox5dc.com/www.fox5dc.com/content/uploads/2023/04/932/524/Oscar-Gonzalez-Allarenja.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
wait are we doxxing yada?
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Thank God its not the Wells Fargo I use to pick up weed.
Here's his mugshot. He looks like he was coming from your Wells Fargo.
(https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox5dc.com/www.fox5dc.com/content/uploads/2023/04/932/524/Oscar-Gonzalez-Allarenja.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
wait are we doxxing yada?
Not cool bro
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I had planned work trips trips to Philly, Mexico City, and Seattle all cancelled because of the pandemic.
Hope you made it to CDMX. Such a great city that I want to return to as soon as airfares drop a little lower than $700 from DC. I paid $350 nonstop in 2017.