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Title: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2006, 01:24:00 pm
It's not too late to come back, Mankie!
 
 More Premiership On TV in USA Than UK
 
 If you've listened to previous episodes of the EPL Talk Podcast, you may remember that celebs such as Paul Oakenfold, Bobby McMahon and others have mentioned how we in the States get to see more Premiership matches here than in England.
 
 Well, here's the proof. For the first week of the Premiership, these are the matches that will be shown on SkySports, who currently hold the exclusive rights to show the Premier League in England:
 
 ENGLAND
 
 Saturday
 Sheffield United v Liverpool, 12:45pm BST, live, Sky Sports One
 Bolton v Spurs, 5:15pm BST, live, PremPlus (PPV)
 
 Sunday
 Man United v Fulham, 1:30pm BST, live, PremPlus (PPV)
 Chelsea v Man City, 4pm BST, live, Sky Sports One
 
 Wednesday
 Charlton v Man United, 8pm BST, live, Sky Sports Two
 
 UNITED STATES
 
 SATURDAY
 
 4:30 AM PST ?? Sheffield Utd v. Liverpool (Live Setanta)
 6:30 AM PST ?? Arsenal v. Aston Villa (Live Setanta)
 7:00 AM PST ?? New Castle v. Wigan (Live FSC)
 9:00 AM PST ?? Bolton v. Tottenham (Live FSC)
 11:15 AM PST ?? Reading v. Middlesborough (Delayed FSC)
 11:30 AM PST ?? West Ham v. Charlton (Delayed Setanta)
 
 SUNDAY
 
 5:30 AM PST ?? Man Utd v. Fulham (Live Setanta)
 8:00 AM PST ?? Chelsea v. Man City (Live FSC)
 
 TUESDAY
 
 12:00 PM PST - Watford vs. West Ham (Live FSC)
 12:00 PM PST - Tottenham v. Sheffiled United (Live Setanta)
 
 WEDNESDAY
 
 12:00 PM PST - Middlesborough v. Chelsea (Live FSC)
 12:00 PM PST - Man Utd v. Charlton (Live Setanta)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2006, 12:16:00 pm
its my first year with fsc, and it was pretty awesome last weekend
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2006, 12:25:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  its my first year with fsc, and it was pretty awesome last weekend
Yep - I love the first weekend of the premiership.  Only boxing day is a better day in my eyes.
 
 I was up early and watched every match except West Ham/Charlton.  Liverpool were lucky, Arsenal were not as impressive as their new stadium, New Castle were thorough and effective, Tottenham were abysmal, Reading were scrappy, Man Utd and Chelsea were dominant.
 
 If your cable compnay doesn't offer Setanta, ITVN (Broadband TV)just cut a deal to offer Setanta for $15 a month.  That's an incredible deal (it costs $12 a month with D*TV).  They even wave the hardware charges ($99) if you sign up for a year.  
 http://www.itvn.com (http://www.itvn.com)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2006, 12:33:00 pm
i only caught the newcastle/wiggan match. kinda what i expected: good midfield play, horrid defense (not as bad as expected), good in goal with ameobi being the wild card. ought to be interesting how the attack changes with martins coming in looking like a reality
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2006, 12:49:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i only caught the newcastle/wiggan match. kinda what i expected: good midfield play, horrid defense (not as bad as expected), good in goal with ameobi being the wild card. ought to be interesting how the attack changes with martins coming in looking like a reality
While most of the focus of the last 18 months was replacing Shearer (likley having done that with the addition of Owen up until the injury), I have been amazed at the lack of attention paid to helping the back four.  Shea Given will be busy all season and he'll have to perform like that every week if New Castle are to get back into Champions League football.  Lots of holes and I'd guess Wigan are disappointed to not get at least a point out of last weekend.
 
 What are you ever going to do with Nicky Butt?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Fico on August 21, 2006, 12:56:00 pm
With the subject line and the creator of the topic I thought this was OC related...sigh.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2006, 01:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i only caught the newcastle/wiggan match. kinda what i expected: good midfield play, horrid defense (not as bad as expected), good in goal with ameobi being the wild card. ought to be interesting how the attack changes with martins coming in looking like a reality
While most of the focus of the last 18 months was replacing Shearer (likley having done that with the addition of Owen up until the injury), I have been amazed at the lack of attention paid to helping the back four.  Shea Given will be busy all season and he'll have to perform like that every week if New Castle are to get back into Champions League football.  Lots of holes and I'd guess Wigan are disappointed to not get at least a point out of last weekend.
 
 What are you ever going to do with Nicky Butt? [/b]
watch him get injured? he or someone will blow out a hammy. i like how he played for 5 minutes or so with double vision
 
 supposedly boumsong is sold and they are still trying to get wayne bridge, and still have fantasies about graveson for some reason
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2006, 01:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by Fico:
  With the subject line and the creator of the topic I thought this was OC related...sigh.
Check back in Late October/Early November...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: xcanuck on August 22, 2006, 09:31:00 am
If you had to choose between Setanta and FSC, which would you take?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 22, 2006, 01:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
  If you had to choose between Setanta and FSC, which would you take?
Really good question, but I lean towards Setanta.
 
 Nearly every Champions League match and most UEFA cup games are broadcast on Setanta from the group stages on.  That alone seals it for me.
 
 They also have Coca-Cola Championship matches, more International Matches (Euro 2008 Qualifiers), and a deal with United and Chelsea to play every match through MUTV and Blues TV (and random classics which I love to watch) - so even if I didn't get United live (although no longer a possibility this year), I'll get the game within 48 hours.
 
 They broadcast French matches (whatever) as well as Dutch matches (awesome). They also have Rugby and GAA if you're into that.
 
 FSC has taken a more US-based approach with the EPL, Mexican and Argentinian Leagues, MLS, and USL, although I still think they have the England International matches first rights.  I'm not sure if anybody broadcasts Bundesliga any longer.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 22, 2006, 01:27:00 pm
i think goltv does. they have serie a too i think, la liga and arse and liverfool tvs. bunch of south america stuff too. both this and fsc came with the 'sports package' for $5
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 22, 2006, 01:47:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  its my first year with fsc, and it was pretty awesome last weekend
If your cable compnay doesn't offer Setanta, ITVN (Broadband TV)just cut a deal to offer Setanta for $15 a month.  That's an incredible deal (it costs $12 a month with D*TV).  They even wave the hardware charges ($99) if you sign up for a year.  
  http://www.itvn.com (http://www.itvn.com) [/b]
Smackie - I had a look at this and it seems great. One question I have is that I alreayd have a cable modem and router in my basement but I'd be putting this upstairs w/ the good tv - should I just get a second cable modem to run between the itvn box and the wall?.....also do you have any idea what the picture looks like on a HDTV?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 22, 2006, 01:48:00 pm
I have purposely forgotten that Gol TV exists in my sports package.  Smackette would make me watch Real Madrid every week if she knew they were on...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 22, 2006, 01:59:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
  Smackie - I had a look at this and it seems great. One question I have is that I alreayd have a cable modem and router in my basement but I'd be putting this upstairs w/ the good tv - should I just get a second cable modem to run between the itvn box and the wall?.....also do you have any idea what the picture looks like on a HDTV?
There is a wireless option that some users have had success with, but I've recommended to my brother-in-law that he use a wired option.  Not sure of your distances, but I think the second cable modem would be the last option - try wireless and maybe running a network cable if it's feasible.
 
 Unfortunately, I'm not reconfiguring his setup for his big screen in the other room until Sept 9 when I visit LA, so I won't get to see ITVN in action until then.  I'll likely test everything from wireless to running a cable to moving the modem.  There is some feedback  here (http://eplleague.blogspot.com/2006/08/events-planned-this-weekend-for.html), however.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: xcanuck on August 22, 2006, 04:35:00 pm
Vansmack....thanks for the great reply. I'd prefer to watch the English and Spanish leagues so it looks like Setanta is the way to go. Besides, FSC means giving Rupert Murdoch more money.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 23, 2006, 06:59:00 pm
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
  Vansmack....thanks for the great reply. I'd prefer to watch the English and Spanish leagues so it looks like Setanta is the way to go. Besides, FSC means giving Rupert Murdoch more money.
No sweat.  For matches that are on FSC that you can't get on Setanta, I used to download those from the fbtz.com forum.  About 300-400 MB per half so they take a little while, but you can start watching the first half while downloading the second.
 
 And I won't post any EPL spoilers for those of you that are watching the matches when you get home this evening, but it was great night!  I will tell you that Copenhagen eliminated Ajax from the Champions League today in a shocker!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 23, 2006, 11:11:00 pm
I hope those interested in the games today will know already the scores. I was surprised to see Chelsea's final score. It might be too early, but a loss in the second game is strange given how superior they have been in the last couple of years, do you think that this year is not going to be so easy for Chelsea? If so, what other teams? Manchester United has started very strong, but again it is still too early, Arsenal, Liverpool, any other?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 24, 2006, 02:13:00 pm
Here we go again...
 
 Champions League Draw
 
 
 ? The draw process took place in Monaco on Thursday August 24.
 
 
 Group A
 
 Barcelona
 Chelsea  
 Werder Bremen
 Levski Sofia
         
 Group B
 
 Inter
 Bayern Munich
 Sporting Lisbon
 Spartak Moscow  
         
 Group C
 
 Liverpool FC  
 PSV Eindhoven
 Bordeaux  
 Galatasaray
         
 Group D
 
 Valencia
 AS Roma  
 Olympiakos  
 Shakhtar Donetsk
         
 Group E
 
 Real Madrid  
 Lyon
 Steaua Bucuresti  
 Dynamo Kiev
         
 Group F
 
 Manchester United  
 Celtic
 Benfica
 FC Copenhagen
       
 Group G
 
 Arsenal
 FC Porto  
 CSKA Moscow  
 Hamburg  
         
 Group H
 
 AC Milan
 Lille  
 AEK Athens  
 Anderlecht
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 24, 2006, 02:28:00 pm
i haven't decided who to support in the champion's league yet. stupid nonqualifying cork city
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 24, 2006, 03:10:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I hope those interested in the games today will know already the scores. I was surprised to see Chelsea's final score. It might be too early, but a loss in the second game is strange given how superior they have been in the last couple of years, do you think that this year is not going to be so easy for Chelsea? If so, what other teams? Manchester United has started very strong, but again it is still too early, Arsenal, Liverpool, any other?
Chelsea has not looked good in the three matches I've watched them play.  That's the problem with high turnover - assuming all the pieces will just fall into place overnight.  Sure, they will get better, but how long is it going to take?  If it takes too long, the ego problem will set in with guy on the bench and the team losing.  I think this is a bigger test than Mourhino thinks it is.
 
 Arsenal will plod along, but like United with Keane, they miss their strong midfield presence in Patrick Viera.  I forgot how much he could control a game until I saw him again in the world cup.  Thierry Henry cannot do it all by himself.  
 
 Liverpool on paper have few holes, but Peter Crouch is not creative enough to carry the team.  I really think Dirk Kuyt is the wild card here.  He's creative and can score goals in Holland, but can he score at this level?  Fowler and Bellamy, when not kiling each other, will wreak havoc on others, but they're past their prime.  Oddly, a lot of injuries early, which doesn't bode well for a long campaign.
 
 New Castle, poor New Castle.  Just when they solve their problem up front, they lose him for the season.  Adding Martins is of small consolation.  A brilliant midfield (way too many options in my opinion), but a weak back four and a suspect front two make for a long season for New Castle fans.  Moments of brilliance, moments of despair all season.  Not enough to win the premiership for sure.
 
 Tottenham are slowly discovering the value of Robbie Keane.  Without him 0-2 loss.  With him, 2-0 win.  It's not what he does inside the box, it's what he sets up outside the box that is his true value.  I would have sold Carrick for 18 Million pounds too, but they don't seem to have the proper replacement.  Plus they're Tottenham, which guarantees frustration all season.  Glad I only like Keane.
 
 That leaves United.  Without Hargreaves, I think Fergie rotates the middlefield until he finds a combination that works.  Nobody can fill Roy Keane's roll, but that won't stop United from trying.  Fergie went through 11 keepers trying to replace Schmeichel before finding Van Der Saar.  That's just the way he is.  The back four, when healthy, will likely be as strong as ever - Heinze is undervalued in my opinion.  The real problem will be a strong, tough defensive midfielder and scoring goals when Rooney's out.  Saha has never played a full season, Smith is coming off an awful injury, and Rossi is unproven, to say the least.  Ole Gunnar Solskjær to the rescue?  I don't put it past him, but I'm not putting any money on it either.  Yes, 8-1 in the first two matches, but consider the competition.  I will say this - this team has been playing together for a few years now, and the first two games it has really shown.  That might be the difference between Chelsea and United this year.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 24, 2006, 03:47:00 pm
there were fleeting rumors of newcastle buying keene. just crazy internet shit, but i was pretty excited. was hoping to add a solid defender, or you know...4
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 24, 2006, 07:34:00 pm
FC Barcelona Chelsea again, this time in the group stage. This game is becoming a classic in the Champions League, three years in a row now. With Werder Bremen also there, this is the toughest group. Hope we make it to the next round.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Got Haggis? on August 25, 2006, 08:45:00 am
how much extra per month is fsc on comcast? i need to get my toon army fix.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 25, 2006, 08:51:00 am
$5 on my comcast (reston)
 
 no magpies this weekend though  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2006, 12:59:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  no magpies this weekend though   :(  
Which is a shame, because now the Toon have a chance:
 
 Rossi loaned to Newcastle until January
 
 Manchester United have loaned Italian youngster Giuseppe Rossi to Newcastle.
 
 The Magpies, stricken by injury to Michael Owen as well as the retirement of Alan Shearer, have borrowed the 19-year-old, who originally hails from New Jersey but has so far chosen to represent the country of his parents.
 
 Newcastle have agreed terms with the Premiership leaders to take Rossi on loan until 1 January 2007.
 
 The Italian striker will link up with the Magpies immediately and, according to Sir Alex Ferguson, will gain some invaluable first team experience.
 
 'It was a big decision for us especially as we don't have the choice of strikers,' admitted the United boss.
 
 'But this is something that Giuseppe wanted as he needs regular first team football.
 
 'When he returns he will be a more experienced player who will be able to offer us much more.'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 31, 2006, 09:44:00 am
now all our side needs is three more defensemen. crazy rumors flying again today. and to get rid of luque and add another striker
 
 i was hoping for something better than a half season loaner from the hated manure (sorry dudes), but we shall see
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2006, 01:24:00 pm
Where the hell did West Ham get this kind of money?
 
 Hammers complete Tevez, Mascherano deal
 
 West Ham have completed the sensational double signing of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano from Corinthians on permanent contracts.
 
 The Argentinian duo, who both starred for their country at the World Cup this summer, move to Upton Park for undisclosed fees.
 
 A statement on the West Ham website read: 'The transfers represent a massive coup for the Hammers, who have beaten off some of Europe's biggest clubs to secure the services of the duo.'  
 
 --------------------
 
 That's about 15 Million pounds per player?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 31, 2006, 01:44:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Where the hell did West Ham get this kind of money?
 
 Hammers complete Tevez, Mascherano deal
 
 West Ham have completed the sensational double signing of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano from Corinthians on permanent contracts.
 
 The Argentinian duo, who both starred for their country at the World Cup this summer, move to Upton Park for undisclosed fees.
 
 A statement on the West Ham website read: 'The transfers represent a massive coup for the Hammers, who have beaten off some of Europe's biggest clubs to secure the services of the duo.'  
This is surprising. I like Mascherano, good player at River Plate. I am not sure about Tevez though, good games with Boca but sort of problematic guy. His behavior reminds me of Maradona, and I don't like that.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 31, 2006, 01:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Where the hell did West Ham get this kind of money?
 
 Hammers complete Tevez, Mascherano deal
 
 West Ham have completed the sensational double signing of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano from Corinthians on permanent contracts.
 
 The Argentinian duo, who both starred for their country at the World Cup this summer, move to Upton Park for undisclosed fees.
 
 A statement on the West Ham website read: 'The transfers represent a massive coup for the Hammers, who have beaten off some of Europe's biggest clubs to secure the services of the duo.'  
the rumor floating around is that mr. chelski owns part of corintians and torpedoed deals to arse and manure, but when the pigs came in they went at a discount
 
 really really bad senario for the rest of the nonbig 4
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2006, 02:10:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I am not sure about Tevez though, good games with Boca but sort of problematic guy. His behavior reminds me of Maradona, and I don't like that.
I heard this as well and the United faithful were quite sure there's only room for one Wayne Rooney and that's why Tevez is not at United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2006, 02:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  the rumor floating around is that mr. chelski owns part of corintians and torpedoed deals to arse and manure, but when the pigs came in they went at a discount
 
 really really bad senario for the rest of the nonbig 4
Interesting.  I also read that it's really a one year "showcase" for West Ham who have a pre-arranged profit split with Corinthians after they get better exposure, and presumably more money from European clubs next year.  I agree, either way it sets a bad precedent for the league.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 06, 2006, 03:24:00 pm
HEY SMACKIE
 do you get newcastle/fulham on setanta?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: on September 06, 2006, 06:11:00 pm
Hey Smackie (http://www.grapheine.com/futeboltv/play.php?id=4233)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 06, 2006, 06:19:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  HEY SMACKIE
 do you get newcastle/fulham on setanta?
Yes, but delayed an hour or two.
 
 Sat, Sep 9
 7:30 Everton v Liverpool (Setanta)  
 10:00 Chelsea v Charlton (Setanta)  
 10:00 Arsenal v Middlesborough (FSC)  
 12:00 Man U v Tottenham (FSC)
 2:15 Sheffield U v Blackburn (Setanta)  
 3:30 Newcastle v Fulham (Setanta)  
 
 Sun, Sep 10
 11:00 West Ham v Aston Villa (FSC)  
 
 Mon, Sep 11
 3:00 Reading v Man C (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 06, 2006, 06:26:00 pm
And next week Champions League Schedule:
 
 TUESDAY
 2:30pm PSV vs Liverpool (ESPN2 live)
 2:30pm Chelsea vs Werder Bremen (setanta live)
 5:00pm Levski Sofia vs Barcelona (Setanta delayed)
 9:00pm Galatasaray vs Bordeaux (Setanta delayed)
 
 WEDNESDAY
 2:30pm Manchester United vs Celtic (ESPN2 live)
 2:30pm Hamburg vs Arsenal (setanta live)
 5:00pm Lyon vs Real Madrid (Setanta delayed)
 7:00pm FC Porto vs CSKA Moscow (setanta delayed)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 07, 2006, 11:47:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 Yes, but delayed an hour or two.
 
bah, opposite penn state destroying nd
 
 think i'll dvr the manure/spuds game though. looks like the best fsc game
 
 might have to do the same for some of those espn2 games. good stuff
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 07, 2006, 11:51:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bah, opposite penn state destroying nd
Seriously, how we didn't hang out more in DC I'll never know...
 
 Oh, and Go Irish!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 07, 2006, 12:17:00 pm
hahaha...i've only lived here for 4 years
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2006, 12:36:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 bah, opposite penn state destroying nd
 
Rough Saturday for you, eh?  I'll stick to the premiereship to start.
 
 What a chippy Newcastle match that was!  I have said it time and time again - don't underestimate the Americans when folks from other nations are delivering the ball in the box!  Crushing defeat, especially after Parker shook off ending Bullards career to put the Maggies ahead.  I couldn't watch the replays, but Smackette watched the play over and over again and said with where his knee cap ended up, he's in big trouble to make a comeback.
 
 The Maggies back four were just terrible the last 10 minutes.  
 
 Ho hum, 12 from 4 for Rooney and Scholesless United.  If it's any consolation, I did have to sit through Ruud's hat-trick this weekend for Real.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 11, 2006, 12:48:00 pm
yeah, i didnt get the toonage here. watched arse/smoggies and a little of the asston/pigs match
 
 hear that neither of our sides new strikers did much. could be a long season, need to out shoot sides with that horrid back four
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 11, 2006, 12:54:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Ho hum, 12 from 4 for Rooney and Scholesless United.  If it's any consolation, I did have to sit through Ruud's hat-trick this weekend for Real.
Actually, I liked seeing Ruud scoring three goals. Imagine the problems in the team when Ronaldo is back, they will have to choose among Ronaldo, Van Nistelrooy, Cassano, Raul, Robinho... I like it, I think we have new problems for Real this year.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2006, 01:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Crushing defeat, especially after Parker shook off ending Bullards career to put the Maggies ahead.  I couldn't watch the replays, but Smackette watched the play over and over again and said with where his knee cap ended up, he's in big trouble to make a comeback.
UPDATE
 
 Jimmy??s kneecap was dislocated by accident. Thankfully the incident happened right in front of us so we were able to relocate it back into position within the first 25 seconds. He was taken to hospital straight away and the ex-ray showed no significant bone damage. Thankfully he doesn??t seem to have anything significant in terms of a fracture. We??ll get him in for an MRI scan and look at everything in more detail which will tell us how long Jimmy will be out for.
 
 Jimmy will fly back with us this evening (Saturday) and once the scans have been completed we??ll have a clear idea of how long he'll be out for.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2006, 01:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
   Imagine the problems in the team when Ronaldo is back, they will have to choose among Ronaldo, Van Nistelrooy, Cassano, Raul, Robinho...  
I can think of worse problems to have, but I see your point.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 11, 2006, 02:42:00 pm
sell us one
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2006, 04:37:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  And next week Champions League Schedule:
 
 TUESDAY
 5:00pm Levski Sofia vs Barcelona (Setanta delayed)
 
 WEDNESDAY
 5:00pm Lyon vs Real Madrid (Setanta delayed)
 
These 2 games will also be broadcast on ESPN Classic at the same time for those that don't have Setanta.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 11, 2006, 04:55:00 pm
they dont do that for the epl weekend games, do they?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 11, 2006, 05:19:00 pm
Do they broadcast games from the Argentinean league in the US as well? these are interesting games, although yesterday the Gimnasia La Plata - Boca Juniors was suspended for apparently major threats to the referee during half time, crazy football there but the atmosphere in key games is the best in football.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2006, 05:26:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  they dont do that for the epl weekend games, do they?
No, and I doubt they will.  ESPN has broadcast rights for Champions League.  They have no broadcast rights for the EPL.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2006, 05:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Do they broadcast games from the Argentinean league in the US as well?  
Fox Soccer Channel has broadcast rights for the Argentinian League, and that game you mention was the game of the week for them, if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 12, 2006, 09:57:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  they dont do that for the epl weekend games, do they?
No, and I doubt they will.  ESPN has broadcast rights for Champions League.  They have no broadcast rights for the EPL. [/b]
looks like neither one gets newcastle this weekend. bah
 
 manure/arse on sunday could be fun, though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2006, 08:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  looks like neither one gets newcastle this weekend. bah
 
 manure/arse on sunday could be fun, though
No, we don't get the Toon Army this weekend.  I did forget to mention Tottenham's UEFA match was on FSC today.  My bad.
 
 SATURDAY SEPT 16
 
 7:30am  Charlton Athletic vs Portsmouth (Set)
 9:30am  Everton vs Wigan Athletic (Set)
 10:00am Bolton  v. Middlesbrough  (FSC)
 Noon Watford v. Aston Villa (FSC)  
 3:00 PM   Sheffield United vs Reading (delayed Set)
 
 SUNDAY SEPT 17
 
 8:30am Chelsea vs Liverpool (Set)
 11:00am Man Utd. vs. Arsenal (FSC)  
 5:00pm Tottenham vs Fulham (delayed Set)
 
 Also 6:30am PSV vs Feyenoord (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 14, 2006, 11:29:00 pm
Dynamo Kiev  1 - 4  Steaua Bucuresti
 Lyon  2 - 0  Real Madrid
 FC Copenhagen  0 - 0  Benfica
 Man Utd  3 - 2  Celtic
 FC Porto  0 - 0  CSKA Moscow
 Hamburg SV  1 - 2  Arsenal
 AC Milan  3 - 0  AEK Athens
 Anderlecht  1 - 1  Lille
 Barcelona  5 - 0  Levski Sofia
 Chelsea  2 - 0  Werder Bremen
 Bayern Munich  4 - 0  Spartak Moscow
 Sporting Lisbon  1 - 0  Inter Milan
 Galatasaray  0 - 0  Bordeaux
 PSV Eindhoven  0 - 0  Liverpool
 AS Roma  4 - 0  Shakhtar Donetsk
 Olympiakos  2 - 4  Valencia
 
 Pretty similar to last year, Chelsea, Barcelona, Lyon and, maybe, Milan look strong.
 
 Manchester United had more problems than expected. Then the typical strong teams of Valencia and Bayern Munich. Arsenal, not sure, they can make it far, but they have started pretty badly in the Premiership and I believe Hamburg played with ten players most of the game.
 
 As for the disappointments, Real Madrid, who seems to be repeating the disappointing football of the last four seasons and Inter Milan, who are always favorites, but can't win any important trophy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 15, 2006, 08:10:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 SATURDAY SEPT 16
 
 7:30am  Charlton Athletic vs Portsmouth (Set)
 9:30am  Everton vs Wigan Athletic (Set)
 10:00am Bolton  v. Middlesbrough  (FSC)
 Noon Watford v. Aston Villa (FSC)  
 3:00 PM   Sheffield United vs Reading (delayed Set)
 
 SUNDAY SEPT 17
 
 8:30am Chelsea vs Liverpool (Set)
 11:00am Man Utd. vs. Arsenal (FSC)  
 5:00pm Tottenham vs Fulham (delayed Set)
 
 Also 6:30am PSV vs Feyenoord (Set)
saturday games dont exactly excite me. have the dvr set for the man u arse match though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2006, 12:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Pretty similar to last year, Chelsea, Barcelona, Lyon and, maybe, Milan look strong.
 
 Manchester United had more problems than expected. Then the typical strong teams of Valencia and Bayern Munich. Arsenal, not sure, they can make it far, but they have started pretty badly in the Premiership and I believe Hamburg played with ten players most of the game.
 
 As for the disappointments, Real Madrid, who seems to be repeating the disappointing football of the last four seasons and Inter Milan, who are always favorites, but can't win any important trophy.
Aresenal were horrible.  It was 10 men, on a horrible sending off of Hamburgs keeper and the ensuing penalty was the difference.  Hamburg nearly tied it up in stoppage time, despite playing with 10 men for half the first and all of the second half.
 
 Barca looked the strongest of the lot, but they also played the weakest team.  
 
 Real, well lets just say there was a lot of talent on the pitch, but absolutely no flow between them.  They stunk.
 
 United were a bit sour and the loss of Giggs and Park and going to even out the return of Rooney (who looked a little off) and Scholes, who still can't time a tackle to save his life.  This month without Giggs will be a real test for them.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2006, 12:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  saturday games dont exactly excite me. have the dvr set for the man u arse match though
This happens every year when UEFA starts the Champions League and the Cup.  There will start to be good Sunday games missed from the tele.
 
 I'll likely watch them all in double time at least, but I'll sit in regular speed through the Everton v. Wigan match because I like the pesky Wigan (I just can't look at their hideous uniforms) before I watch the Irish beat up on another Big 10 team.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 15, 2006, 12:39:00 pm
i always find sept and oct funny because notre dame looks like a member of the big 10, which they should be anyway.
 
 i might catch some of the bolton/smoggies match, because of the time. i always thought the name 'wanderers' was cool for some reason
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 15, 2006, 12:53:00 pm
weird, fsc replays toon/porkers on monday. of course i'll be deep into the steelers/jagoffs monday night  :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2006, 01:10:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i always find sept and oct funny because notre dame looks like a member of the big 10, which they should be anyway.
And share their precious TV revenue with the rest of the conference?  Never (of course one more year of Ty Willingham/Bob Davie and the Irish would have been begging the Big 10 to let them in after NBC cancelled the deal).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2006, 01:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  weird, fsc replays toon/porkers on monday. of course i'll be deep into the steelers/jagoffs monday night   :D  
I knew we would eventually agree on a team...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 15, 2006, 01:15:00 pm
i'm a pittsburgh kid, what can i say
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2006, 03:13:00 pm
Eriksson linked with U.S. post
 PA
 
 Sven-Goran Eriksson is being considered as a replacement for Bruce Arena as coach of the United States, according to a report in the U.S.
 
 The New York Times report that United States Soccer Federation officials have spoken to the former England coach, although the Americans may struggle to meet his wage demands if he seeks a similar pay deal to the one he had with England.
 
 Arena's eight-year spell with the US team came to an end after the World Cup, with the USSF deciding not to renew his contract after the Americans failed to get beyond the group stages.
 
 Several high profile coaches have been linked with the vacant position, including former Germany coach Jurgen Klinsmann -- who lives in Southern California -- and Jose Pekerman, who led Argentina at this year's World Cup.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 15, 2006, 03:41:00 pm
its klinsman's if he wants it
 
 wasnt erickson saying he wanted to manage a big english club like a week ago? the conjecture was newcastle once they sack roeder
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 22, 2006, 06:30:00 pm
SATURDAY
 
 7:30am Liverpool vs Tottenham (Set)
 9:45am Fulham vs Chelsea (Set)
 10:00am Arsenal vs Sheffield United (FSC)  
 10:00am Manchester City vs West Ham (Set Xtra - D*TV only, CH 670)
 12:00 p.m. Reading  vs Manchester Utd. (FSC)
 2:30 p.m. Aston Villa vs Charlton  (FSC)
 3:30pm Manchester City vs West Ham (Set Delayed)
 
 SUNDAY
 
 11:00 a.m. Newcastle  vs Everton  
 
 I haven't found the Old Firm game on Saturday on TV anywhere, so if anybody sees it, let me know.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 25, 2006, 02:10:00 pm
This weeks Champion's League fixtures on US TV:
 
 TUESDAY
 
 2:30pm Benfica vs. Manchester United (ESPN2)
 2:30pm Arsenal vs Porto (Setanta)
 5:00pm Real Madrid vs Dynamo Kiev (Set Delayed/ESPN Classic Del)
 9:00pm Lille vs AC Milan (Set Delayed)  
 
 WEDNESDAY
 
 2:30pm Levski Sofia vs. Chelsea (ESPN2)
 2:30pm Liverpool vs Galatasaray (Set)
 5:00pm Inter Milan vs Bayern Munich (Set Del)
 5:00pm Werder Bremen vs. Barcelona (ESPN Classic Del)
 7:00pm Valencia vs Roma (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 25, 2006, 02:32:00 pm
newcastle/neverto match was pretty good. would have liked to have 3 points, but lucky to have one. ameobi was way off sides
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 29, 2006, 04:56:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  newcastle/neverto match was pretty good. would have liked to have 3 points, but lucky to have one. ameobi was way off sides
Just let me know when you're ready to talk about Alonso's goal over Harper....
 
 SATURDAY
 
 7:30am Bolton Wanderers v Liverpool (Set)
 10am Charlton Athletic v Arsenal (Set)
 10am Chelsea v Aston Villa (FSC)
 12pm Sheffield United v Middlesbrough (FSC)2:15pm Everton v Manchester City (FSC Delayed)
 
 SUNDAY
 
 9am Manchester United v Newcastle United (Set)9am West Ham United v Reading (Set Xtra)
 11am Tottenham Hotspur v Portsmouth (FSC)
 3pm Watford v Fulham (set)
 
 
 Venerable tells me you're going to be busy this weekend and likely miss the New Castle match.  Take it from me - lay the law down from day one and make her wait until after the match before you do anything!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on September 29, 2006, 05:40:00 pm
For those in the Baltimore area, Slainte in Fells Point is showing this games this weekend.
 
 Sat
 7:30am  Bolton Wanderers vs Liverpool - Premiership
 
 9:30am  Charlton vs Arsenal - Premiership
 
 2:00pm  Munster vs Ulster - Magners League
 
 10am    Chealsea Vs Aston Villa
 12pm    Shieffield Utd Vs Middlesbrough
 
 Sun
 9:55am  Manchester United vs Newcastle United - Premiership
 
 11am    Tottenham Vs Porthsmoth
 Mon
 3pm     Watford Vs Fullham
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 30, 2006, 12:58:00 pm
Chelsea 1 - Aston Villa 1
 Charlton 1 - Arsenal 2
 Bolton 2 - Liverpool 0
 
 It seems that this year things are going to be interesting, the top teams are losing lots of points compared to previous seasons where you would have either Arsenal or Chelsea winning most of the games.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2006, 12:25:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Chelsea 1 - Aston Villa 1
 Charlton 1 - Arsenal 2
 Bolton 2 - Liverpool 0
 
 It seems that this year things are going to be interesting, the top teams are losing lots of points compared to previous seasons where you would have either Arsenal or Chelsea winning most of the games.
You forgot Man U 2-0 Newcastle.
 
 Ole, Ole Gunnar Solskjær, Ole, Ole Gunnar Solskjær!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 03, 2006, 01:12:00 pm
Bummer Brennser, looks like we'll have to hit the pub for the Ireland match next week.
 
 Sat. Oct 7 Euro 2008 Qualifier  
 
 England v Macedonia 12:00pm (Set Premuim ?? Pub only)
 Scotland vs France 12:00pm (Set)
 Cyprus v Ireland 12:30 (Set Premium ?? Pub Only)
 Denmark v. N. Ireland  2:00 p.m. (FSC)  
 Italy vs Ukraine 2:45 (Set)
 Serbia  v. Belgium  4:00 p.m. (FSC)  
 Sweden vs Spain 5:00pm (Set)
 Bulgaria vs Holland 7:00pm (Set)
 
 Sun. Oct 8 Euro 2008 Qualifier Delayed Broadcasts
 
 Kazakhstan vs Poland 6:00pm (set)
 Cyprus vs Ireland 8:00pm (set)
 Greece vs Norway 10:00pm (set)
 
 Tues. Oct 10 Euro 2008 Qualifier
 
 England v. Macedonia 8:00pm (FSC replay)
 
 Wed. Oct 11 Euro 2008 Qualifier  
 
 Croatia v England 1:00 p.m. (Set Premium ?? Pub Only)
 Iceland v. Sweden 2:00 p.m. (FSC)
 Georgia vs Italy 2:00 p.m. (set)
 Ireland v Czech Republic 2:30 p.m. (Set Premium ?? Pub Only)
 Poland v Portugal 2:30 p.m. (Set Premium ?? Pub Only)
 France v. Faroe Islands 4:00 p.m. (FSC)
 Slovakia vs Germany 4:00 p.m. (Set)
 Turkey vs Moldova 6:00 p.m. (Set)
 Georgia vs Italy 8:00 p.m. (Set)
 
 Thu. Oct 12 Euro 2008 Qualifiers Delayed Broadcasts
 
 Poland vs Portugal 5:15 (Set)
 Ireland vs Czech Republic 7:15 (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 03, 2006, 01:45:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 Bummer Brennser, looks like we'll have to hit the pub for the Ireland match next week.
 
at the rate the injuries are piling up I'm getting myself into shape for a last minute call up!!
   :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 06, 2006, 10:48:00 pm
I hate these weekends with no soccer games from the different European leagues. These qualifying games for the European Cup or for the World Cup are so boring.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 07, 2006, 01:08:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I hate these weekends with no soccer games from the different European leagues. These qualifying games for the European Cup or for the World Cup are so boring.
I'm beginning to agree with you, and it's barely 10 AM pacific time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 07, 2006, 04:51:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I hate these weekends with no soccer games from the different European leagues. These qualifying games for the European Cup or for the World Cup are so boring.
I'm beginning to agree with you, and it's barely 10 AM pacific time. [/b]
If they show it in the US, try to watch tomorrow's superclasico, River Plate - Boca Juniors from Argentina's Apertura league.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 09, 2006, 02:46:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  at the rate the injuries are piling up I'm getting myself into shape for a last minute call up!!
    :D  
It might have helped, actually. Despite the injury, I never would have thought that would be the result.  Embarrassing.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 09, 2006, 03:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  at the rate the injuries are piling up I'm getting myself into shape for a last minute call up!!
     :D  
It might have helped, actually. Despite the injury, I never would have thought that would be the result.  Embarrassing. [/b]
agreed, as a former Irish Prime Minister once said, grotesque, unbelievable, bizarre, and unprecedented.....truly a pitiful performance
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 20, 2006, 04:31:00 pm
smackie, I need my weekend footy schedule!!   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Venerable Bede on October 20, 2006, 04:46:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  smackie, I need my weekend footy schedule!!    ;)  
unfortunately, smackie is in socal this weekend.  
 
 all i got is that the tigers/cards game starts at 8:05 eastern on saturday.  unless you want me to go through college football.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: bigyellow100 on October 20, 2006, 05:07:00 pm
ALLEZ-LE LOSC!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 21, 2006, 10:24:00 am
I think this weekend you should try to watch this.
 
 http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AoDOQmUG8fVL21jEhvzRZ.8mw7YF?slug=reu-spain_preview&prov=reuters&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AoDOQmUG8fVL21jEhvzRZ.8mw7YF?slug=reu-spain_preview&prov=reuters&type=lgns)
 
 PREVIEW-Soccer-Real out to heal wounds against champions Barca
 
 By Simon Baskett
 
 MADRID, Oct 19 (Reuters) - Nothing hurts Real Madrid more than having to live in the shadow of arch-rivals Barcelona and a victory in this Sunday's 'clasico' at the Bernabeu would go a long way to healing the wounds from the last three seasons.
 
 The last time Barca visited Real Madrid's stadium they dealt the home side a humiliating 3-0 defeat which ended with Ronaldinho being given a standing ovation by the irate home fans after he scored a sublime double.
 
 That defeat was, in many ways, the low point of Real's so-called Galactico era and was one of the events that prompted the eventual exit of former president Florentino Perez.
 
 After witnessing the collapse of their attempt to put together an all-star team based on glamorous big-name players and attack-minded football, Real have now opted for a back-to-basics approach under new coach Fabio Capello.
 
 The Italian has been charged with the task of introducing a disciplined, conservative approach based on a solid defence and a well ordered midfield rather than the more anarchic style that has characterised the team's performances in recent years.
 
 The change has yet to produce consistent results and the new-look team slumped to their first league defeat of the campaign when they lost 1-0 at Getafe last Saturday.
 
 Ronaldo, the club's leading striker for the last four seasons, was sent off for back chat to the referee and will miss the Barca match through suspension.
 
 But the team were a completely different proposition in Tuesday's 4-1 away win over former European champions Steaua Bucharest, the presence of Brazilian forward Robinho adding a new dimension to the Real attack.
 
 "We saw a team with quality and spirit and that is what counts," said Capello. "Now I'm happy.
 
 "I said we had to forget the performance against Getafe because we can't play like that ever again. Instead, we saw a Real Madrid that played with pace and skill."
 
 HUMILIATING DEFEAT
 
 After back-to-back league titles and victory in the Champions League last season, Barcelona appear to have lost some of their edge.
 
 A humiliating 3-0 defeat by Sevilla in the European Super Cup was an early sign of vulnerability and Wednesday's morale-sapping 1-0 setback at Chelsea exposed another chink in the previously impervious Barcelona armour.
 
 Without injured striker Samuel Eto'o, Barca no longer find it so easy to punch holes in opposition defences.
 
 Also, coaches like Juande Ramos and Jose Mourinho have shown that tight marking of Ronaldinho and suffocating pressure in midfield are the secret to success against the Catalans.
 
 Although they are not firing on all cylinders, Frank Rijkaard's side still have a three-point lead at the top of the Primera Liga, and are five points clear of Real after last Sunday's morale-boosting 3-1 victory over Sevilla.
 
 Barca know another victory over Real will dispel any doubts about the team.
 
 "The Chelsea defeat was an accident against a very good team, nothing more," said skipper Carles Puyol. "Things can be sorted out with a victory at the Bernabeu."
 
 Real's biggest enemy could be overconfidence after their comfortable win against Steaua.
 
 "I've told the players that we have the best squad in the world, that no one can beat us if we put our minds to it," Real president Ramon Calderon told Marca on Thursday. "I'm certain that we will beat Barca."
 
 Updated on Thursday, Oct 19, 2006 6:01 am EDT
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 23, 2006, 04:17:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  smackie, I need my weekend footy schedule!!    ;)  
Yes, my bad!  Rough week.  There was only English match worth watching anyway....
 
 I do have an ITVN update as well.  They're adding On-Demand to watch the Setanta matches later in the day or up to a week (I believe) so that you don't have to watch them all live.  Good move on their part.
 
 Here's the mid week "clashes" - boy do I hate the Carling Cup.
 
 TUESDAY
 
 2:30pm Chesterfield vs West Ham - Carling Cup (Set)
 
 WEDNESDAY
 
 2:00pm Crewe vs Man Utd - Carling Cup (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 23, 2006, 04:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I think this weekend you should try to watch this.
Woops.  Looks like Becks on the bench might be the key....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 23, 2006, 04:54:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  smackie, I need my weekend footy schedule!!     ;)  
Yes, my bad!  Rough week.  There TUESDAY
 
 2:30pm Chesterfield vs West Ham - Carling Cup (Set)
 [/b]
so if West Ham lose this one I would imagine Pardews position becomes pretty untenable, no?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 24, 2006, 08:36:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  smackie, I need my weekend footy schedule!!      ;)    
Yes, my bad!  Rough week.  There TUESDAY
 
 2:30pm Chesterfield vs West Ham - Carling Cup (Set)
 [/b]
so if West Ham lose this one I would imagine Pardews position becomes pretty untenable, no? [/b]
well they lost....now lets see what happens
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 25, 2006, 01:52:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I think this weekend you should try to watch this.
Woops.  Looks like Becks on the bench might be the key.... [/b]
Still haven't visited any sports website since Sunday. It is taking long to recover from those two losses last week.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2006, 05:58:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  well they lost....now lets see what happens
They've got to sack him - to lose after sitting his Argentine Duo and scoring the early goal is just unacceptable.
 
 We've come a long way from the initial discussions of the Hammers qualifying for Europe after Argentine signing...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 27, 2006, 11:57:00 am
This Weeks English Premiereship TV Schedule:
 
 Sat.  Oct 28  
 
 7:30am Sheff Utd vs Chelsea (Set)
 10:00 a.m.  Liverpool  vs. Aston Villa  (FSC)
 10:00am Bolton vs Man Utd (Set)
 10:00am Arsenal vs Everton (Set Xtra ?? D*TV channel 670)
 12:00 p.m.  Newcastle  vs. Charlton  (FSC)
 2:30 p.m.  Watford vs. Tottenham (FSC)
 
 Sun.  Oct 29  
 
 11:00 a.m. West Ham  vs. Blackburn (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Venerable Bede on October 27, 2006, 12:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  This Weeks English Premiereship TV Schedule:
 
 Sat.  Oct 28  
 
 10:00 a.m.  Liverpool  vs. Aston Villa  (FSC)
 10:00am Bolton vs Man Utd (Set)
 10:00am Arsenal vs Everton (Set Xtra ?? D*TV channel 670)
 12:00 p.m.  Newcastle  vs. Charlton  (FSC)
 
so, does that mean we'll be flipping back and forth between those and the mizzou/ou game and ND/navy game?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 27, 2006, 02:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  so, does that mean we'll be flipping back and forth between those and the mizzou/ou game and ND/navy game?
Nope - those times are Eastern.  I'll be watching United at 7AM PT and we can watch college football uninterrupted starting at 9AM PT.
 
 I can watch the rest on Sunday morning with my extra hour before the NFL.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 30, 2006, 09:37:00 pm
magpies need to stop sucking at soccer
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 31, 2006, 09:36:00 pm
I'm so mad with Mourinho's behaviour. This is the perfect example of someone within football that promotes violence.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 01, 2006, 12:57:00 am
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I'm so mad with Mourinho's behaviour. This is the perfect example of someone within football that promotes violence.
Shockingly, and I would add appallingly, that game was not available in the US without pay per view.  Not surprisingly, we missed the game of the day, and most likely the week.
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Post by: vansmack on November 01, 2006, 06:46:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I'm so mad with Mourinho's behaviour. This is the perfect example of someone within football that promotes violence.
This was sick though:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bPbqHAktII (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bPbqHAktII)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 03, 2006, 03:36:00 pm
Saturday, Nov 4
 
 7:45 Fulham v Everton (Setanta)  
 10:00 Liverpool v Reading (FSC)
 10:00 Man United v Portsmouth (Setanta)  
 12:00 Newcastle v Sheffield United (FSC)  
 2:15  Charlton v Man City (FSC)  
 
 Sun, Nov 5
 
 8:30 West Ham v Arsenal (Setanta)  
 11:00 Tottenham v Chelsea (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 07, 2006, 01:23:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I'm so mad with Mourinho's behaviour. This is the perfect example of someone within football that promotes violence.
Tottenham took it right to them this weekend.  And Terry had a complete meltdown.  Great match start to finish.
 
 Paled in comparison to the heavyweight battle between Wenger and Pardew.  Shocked that Arsenal lost with such disgrace...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 07, 2006, 01:35:00 pm
yeah, that was pretty fantastic. i kinda hate both sides, but great match
 
 must be the time of year for meltdowns, carr and parker (!!!) both had some issues with the crowd at st james park
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 07, 2006, 01:46:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  yeah, that was pretty fantastic. i kinda hate both sides, but great match
 
 must be the time of year for meltdowns, carr and parker (!!!) both had some issues with the crowd at st james park
I wasn't going to bring up Newcastle for fear that the Maggies, combined with the Steelers, combined with Penn State and JoePa brekaing his leg might have been too much for you to handle.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 07, 2006, 02:35:00 pm
who are these people and what do they have to do with gilbert arenas, malkin and crosby?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 07, 2006, 02:45:00 pm
Haha, go Ducks!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 07, 2006, 05:37:00 pm
Actually, the weekend didn't start very well on Saturday with Barcelona drawing in Galicia against Deportivo La Coruña, but ended nicely with Chelsea losing to Totenham (my team in London) and Real Madrid losing at home against Celta de Vigo. Actually, the press and fans in Madrid on Sunday morning were already saying that they had already caught Barcelona in the table, but late in the afternoon, they were even further down. And Capello saying that Real Madrid had played the best game in the season, that is great!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2006, 10:27:00 am
so the freddy adu to england rumors (or rumours) are flying again. sounds like he really wants to go to a big 4 team, which is a mistake
 
 unless he decides to play for the u.s. or ends up on tyneside (might be a good fit, wont happen) i could really care less, but he should go (even if on loan) to a lower to mid table team where he can get on the pitch regularly with the first team
 
 thoughts?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on November 09, 2006, 10:33:00 am
I go the the Birchmere for the food.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so the freddy adu to england rumors (or rumours) are flying again. sounds like he really wants to go to a big 4 team, which is a mistake
 
 unless he decides to play for the u.s. or ends up on tyneside (might be a good fit, wont happen) i could really care less, but he should go (even if on loan) to a lower to mid table team where he can get on the pitch regularly with the first team
 
 thoughts?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2006, 12:09:00 pm
it blows my mind that you have 13000+ posts
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Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on November 09, 2006, 12:39:00 pm
Damn, I'm so embarrassed.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  it blows my mind that you have 13000+ posts
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 09, 2006, 01:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so the freddy adu to england rumors (or rumours) are flying again.  
Is he 18 yet?  I think he'll have to wait until the summer transfer window.
 
 And yes he should go to England, and no it shouldn't be to a big 4, although it will be a big 4 team that signs him, and they'll put him on loan like the other US players that are on Big 4 Rosters (Spector, Howard, Rossi).
 
 Perhaps Bobby Convey can show him the way here.  His career has certainly blossomed since he decided to play for Reading.  He should not talk to that little pusst Landon Donavon however, who couldn't cut it in Germany so he left.  Three times.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2006, 01:47:00 pm
no, in june
 
  but he's going to train with man u next month (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/soccer/11/09/bc.soc.manchesterunited.ap/)
 
 looks like he decided to play for the u.s. under 20 team. cool
 
 do you count rossi as american?
 
 also donOvan. spell it right
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 09, 2006, 01:50:00 pm
Saturday, Nov 11
 
 07:45 Man City v Newcastle (Setanta)  
 10:00 Middlesbrough v West Ham (SetantaX)  
 10:00 Everton v Aston Villa (FSC)  
 10:00 Chelsea v Watford (Setanta)    
 12:00 Blackburn v Man United (FSC)  
 2:15  Portsmouth v Fulham (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, Nov 12
 
 08:30 Reading v Spurs (Setanta)  
 11:00 Arsenal v Liverpool (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2006, 01:52:00 pm
saturday games on fsc dont do much for me, but the sunday game should be cool
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 09, 2006, 01:56:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  do you count rossi as american?
No, but if I say it enough times maybe it will come true.
 
 And my bad on Donovan.  Still a pussy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2006, 02:19:00 pm
i forgive you
 
 dempsey was trying to go to charleton last summer too
 
 i still think landon should try europe again, but my view of him is far from impartial
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on November 09, 2006, 04:04:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so the freddy adu to england rumors (or rumours) are flying again.  
Is he 18 yet?  I think he'll have to wait until the summer transfer window.
 
 And yes he should go to England, and no it shouldn't be to a big 4, although it will be a big 4 team that signs him, and they'll put him on loan like the other US players that are on Big 4 Rosters (Spector, Howard, Rossi).
 
 Perhaps Bobby Convey can show him the way here.  His career has certainly blossomed since he decided to play for Reading.  He should not talk to that little pusst Landon Donavon however, who couldn't cut it in Germany so he left.  Three times. [/b]
so does freddy win the award for most overhyped sports prodigy ever? I mean, seriously, its not like he set a mediocre league like MLS on fire over the past few years.....when Wayne Rooney and Norman Whiteside were his age they were doing much much more....I think it was basicalyl a marketing ploy by MLS - I'll be very interested to see how good a player he actually turns out to be
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 15, 2006, 01:27:00 pm
Saturday, Nov 18
 
 7:45AM Man City v Fulham (Setanta)
 10:00 Arsenal v Newcastle (SetantaX)
 10:00 Sheffield United v Man United (FSC)  
 10:00 Chelsea v West Ham (Setanta)  
 12:00PM Middlesboro v Liverpool (FSC)2
 2:15 Everton v Bolton (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, Nov 19
 
 8:30AM Wigan v Aston Villa (Setanta)
 11:00 Blackburn v Spurs (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on November 26, 2006, 09:32:00 pm
I'll settle for 1-1 v chelsea.....we had the better chances overall but there was a 25 minute period in the seocnd half where chelsea looked very impressive
 
 and ronaldinho's  goal this weekend was sick.....an all time classic
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 26, 2006, 10:47:00 pm
I was just watching the goal in You Tube. Spectacular.
 
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyJZ0pG-Ilo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyJZ0pG-Ilo)  
 
 I watched the Manchester United - Chelsea. One thing I like about Manchester is that Scholes and Giggs are still playing very well. Really liked these two players. I think Manchester United will win the premiership this year.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 27, 2006, 11:56:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  I'll settle for 1-1 v chelsea.....we had the better chances overall but there was a 25 minute period in the seocnd half where chelsea looked very impressive
 
 and ronaldinho's  goal this weekend was sick.....an all time classic
That goal is ridiculous.  
 
 As for United, definitely a tale of two halves.  United failed to put them away a couple times in the first half and twice to start the second, then the class football of Chelsea came out (why was Joe Cole on the bench for so long?), and United weathered an amazing storm.  Both teams should be happy with a point, and feel they could have had three.
 
 And giggsy's turn around the last two seasons has been amazing.  The press had him left for dead 3 years ago, but now I'm quite certain he's the best player on the pitch for United week in and week out.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on November 27, 2006, 12:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  and ronaldinho's  goal this weekend was sick.....an all time classic
outta control... but am i the only one who thinks he looked offside?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 27, 2006, 12:48:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by sweetcell:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  and ronaldinho's  goal this weekend was sick.....an all time classic
outta control... but am i the only one who thinks he looked offside? [/b]
No, at the time Xavi kicked the ball to pass it to Ronaldinho, there was a Villareal player between Ronaldinho and the goalkeeper.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 27, 2006, 01:44:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  No, at the time Xavi kicked the ball to pass it to Ronaldinho, there was a Villareal player between Ronaldinho and the goalkeeper.
Yep, the bald guy on Villareal played him onside.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 27, 2006, 02:37:00 pm
I strongly encourage to see next Tuesday's Barcelona Werder Bremen for the last spot in the group for the round of 16 of the Champions League. Should be a great game and I am scared to death. The Oporto - Arsenal and Manchester United - Benfica games will be great as well.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 27, 2006, 03:42:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I strongly encourage to see next Tuesday's Barcelona Werder Bremen for the last spot in the group for the round of 16 of the Champions League. Should be a great game and I am scared to death. The Oporto - Arsenal and Manchester United - Benfica games will be great as well.
Before we get to next week, most premiereship teams have two league games first.  But of course, the last match day of the champions league should be a national holiday!
 
 Tuesday, November 28
 
 3:00pm Watford vs Sheffield United (set)
 
 Wednesday, November 29
 
 3:00pm Manchester United vs Everton (set)
 3:00pm Bolton vs. Chelsea (FSC)  
 5:00pm Fulham vs. Arsenal (FSC)
 
 Thursday, November 30
 
 2:30pm UEFA Cup - Frankfurt vs Newcastle United (set)
 
 Saturday, Dec 2
 
 7:30am Arsenal v Tottenham (set)
 10:00am Wigan v Liverpool (set)
 10:00am Reading v Bolton (FSC)
 12:00pm Middlesbrough v Manchester United (FSC)  
 12:00pm Portsmouth v Aston Villa (set)  
 2:30pm Blackburn v Fulham (FSC)
 
 Sunday, Dec 3
 
 11:00am Everton v West Ham (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 28, 2006, 04:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  so does freddy win the award for most overhyped sports prodigy ever? I mean, seriously, its not like he set a mediocre league like MLS on fire over the past few years.....
It looks like his coach might agree with you:
 
 Adu told to snub Man United by club coach
 
 Freddy Adu has been warned off a move to Manchester United by his club coach in the United States.
   
 DC United coach Peter Nowak believes the Ghana-born 17-year-old, who is currently on trial with the Red Devils, could struggle in the rough and tumble of the Premiership and believes he should look to a different club for his first move in Europe.
 
 'He's a young kid and he needs matches,' Nowak told The Guardian.
 
 'I think he should go to PSV (Eindhoven) or Ajax or somewhere where they have a tradition of raising young players.
 
 'At a place like Ajax the young kids come through together and they grow up together; the team is shaped around them. In the biggest environment at the club with the biggest budget it will be hard for them to wait for him to develop.
 
 'I still feel he needs the minutes and the experience.'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 28, 2006, 05:35:00 pm
hey smackie, will i ever see the toon on fox soccer channel ever again?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 28, 2006, 05:49:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hey smackie, will i ever see the toon on fox soccer channel ever again?
Wednesday, December 13 you'll get to see The Toon on FSC.  Unfortunately for you, they're at Stamford Bridge.
 
 And I think you'll get the Saturday December 23rd game as well, home against Spurs.  It's the best game of that weekend before Boxing Day.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 28, 2006, 06:16:00 pm
awesome on the 13th
 
 i might miss the match on the 23rd, though. will be on the way to pixburgh an at
 
 as far as freddy goes, if manure buy him, he's going to get loaned out during the next transfer period. hope its the epl so i can critique
 
 i'm sick of watching arse every week. rvp is too pretty
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on November 29, 2006, 02:25:00 pm
totti's goal aint too shabby either
 
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=G0GyYaI6DoU (http://youtube.com/watch?v=G0GyYaI6DoU)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 29, 2006, 03:50:00 pm
that was the first roma match i watched all season
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 01, 2006, 01:15:00 pm
An early Xmas Present...
 
 Man Utd to sign Larsson
 
 Larsson arrival end's Man United striker hunt
 
  <img src="http://soccernet-att.espn.go.com/design05/images/JonMC/December2006/larsson412.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 The shock arrival of Henrik Larsson will mark the end of Manchester United's extensive striker search until next summer.
   
 With his attacking options currently depleted, Sir Alex Ferguson has pulled off a major coup in securing Larsson on a three-month loan from Helsingborg.
 
 The 35-year-old Celtic legend will fly into England at the beginning of January and remain with the Old Trafford outfit until March 12 before returning to his native Sweden for the start of their domestic campaign.
 
 Larsson will provide valuable back-up to first-choice strikers Louis Saha and Wayne Rooney at a time when United hope to be mounting a serious challenge for honours both at home and abroad.
 
 And, while Ferguson continues to be linked with big-money moves for Fernando Torres and Darren Bent, the Scot is convinced now Larsson's arrival is certain, he will not need to look for any more forwards when the transfer window opens next month.
 
 'No, we won't be going for any other strikers,' confirmed the United boss.
 
 'We have exhausted all avenues and this, without doubt, is the best option.'
 
 The imminent return of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer from a hamstring strain should see United through to the new year, when Giuseppe Rossi seems certain to be recalled from his loan spell at Newcastle, offering Ferguson even more alternatives for the start of the Red Devils' FA Cup campaign.
 
 However, the arrival of Larsson has certainly captured the imagination of the United faithful.
 
 Recently voted the best Swedish player of the past 50 years, Larsson scored an incredible 242 goals in 315 appearances during seven highly-successful years at Parkhead before leaving for Barcelona, where he won the Champions League in May.
 
 Ferguson credits Larsson's arrival off the bench when his team were losing to Arsenal as the major factor behind the Catalans' eventual triumph and admitted he tried to sign the player while he was still in Scotland.
 
 'We made a move for him while he was still at Celtic but they managed to persuade him to stay,' revealed Ferguson.
 
 'I always knew he wanted to try Barcelona but we didn't go for him when he was leaving there in the summer because we were under the impression he wanted to go back to Sweden, which he did.'
 
 However, with it becoming increasingly obvious United could not hope to maintain a successful title quest with the strikers currently available, Ferguson told chief scout Jim Lawlor to pursue a hunch over Larsson with Helsingborg coach, and fellow Scot, Stuart Baxter.
 
 Although Larsson has extensive business interests in his homeland, he was willing to take up the challenge of appearing in the Premiership for the first time in his career.
 
 His first United appearance is likely to be in an FA Cup third-round tie, with a possible Premiership debut against Aston Villa, whose manager Martin O'Neill used to be his boss at Celtic, a week later.
 
 Unless his loan period is extended, something Ferguson doubts will happen, Larsson will be available for a maximum of 13 games, including the first Champions League knock-out round and testing trips to Arsenal and Liverpool.
 
 'The length of the contract is perfect,' said Larsson.
 
 I probably won't play every match from the start, but for me it feels like a very fun thing to contribute at such a late stage in my career.
 
 'I have no idea how Sir Alex wants to use me. I will be back-up at the beginning, then we will see what I can contribute and where things are going.'
 
 Larsson will link up with his new team-mates ahead of the trip to West Ham on December 17, then train at Carrington for a week before heading back to Sweden for Christmas, then returning to England a week later.
 
 However, Ferguson has been keen to stress Larsson's arrival does not mark the end of Alan Smith's stay at Old Trafford, even though the £6million former Leeds front-man has not even been seen on the bench since being substituted in the Carling Cup defeat to Southend.
 
 'Alan's future with the club is good,' declared Ferguson.
 
 'The problem was we misread the situation when he came back from his injury.
 
 'He did very well in pre-season but after that, there was no progress and we didn't really realise it until we saw him play against Crewe and Southend.
 
 'Now we have got him on a quite intensive speed programme and he is working very hard at that. He knows there is a lot of hard work to do but he is progressing well.'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 02, 2006, 09:15:00 am
yeah, this is HUUUGE!!  :)
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  An early Xmas Present...
 
 Man Utd to sign Larsson
 
 Larsson arrival end's Man United striker hunt
 
   <img src="http://soccernet-att.espn.go.com/design05/images/JonMC/December2006/larsson412.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 05, 2006, 06:29:00 pm
Another early Xmas present....
 
 German legend to lead U.S. Soccer
 Jamie Trecker / Fox Soccer Channel
 Posted: 2 hours ago
 
 Jürgen Klinsmann will be named head coach of the U.S. men's national team within two weeks according to a number of well-placed sources with knowledge of the deal.
 
 His appointment as coach was perhaps the worst-kept secret in American soccer: Klinsmann publicly acknowledged that he was interested in the job and there has been persistent buzz since the World Cup ended in July that the interview process for the national team job was essentially a matter of going through the motions.
 
 Warren Mersereau, who is both Klinsmann's business partner and representative, said "no comment" when contacted for this story.
 
 There were two sticking points in signing Klinsmann: The first was Klinsmann's long relationship with adidas. The U.S. national soccer team is heavily underwritten by Nike, and sources at the shoewear companies said talk of the appointment initially caused some concern. According to a person connected with the shoe company today, Klinsmann has left adidas, solving the issue in one fell swoop.
 
 The second issue looks to be more contentious. Speaking on condition of anonymity granted because they were not given permission to speak about the appointment, two sources confirmed that the issue of power-sharing was a major bone of contention. Former coach Bruce Arena had carved out a wide swath for himself during his tenure, and Klinsmann has reportedly demanded that he too be essentially the sole decision-maker on national team matters.
 
 This has not sat well with some at the Federation, who were mindful of past friction. According to several people at the team level with intimate knowledge of the subject, relations between General Secretary Dan Flynn and Arena deteriorated to the point that the two men barely spoke to one another.
 
 Klinsmann, who steered Germany to a third-place finish in the 2006 World Cup and won the 1990 World Cup as a player, has long been coveted by the Americans to restart a stuttering men's national team program. A star with VfB Stuttgart, Tottenham Hotspur and Bayern Munich, the former forward has a reputation for being a pragmatist and displayed considerable acumen and political savvy during his tenure as German national team head coach.
 
 Klinsmann inherits a program in dire need of fresh ideas. Under former coach Arena, the men's program compiled their best-ever record of 71-30-29, and reached the 2002 World Cup quarterfinals (losing, ironically, to Germany) but Arena took much of the criticism for the team's 0-2-1 performance at the 2006 World Cup. Ranked before the World Cup an unrealistic fifth by the now-defunct FIFA ranking system, the Americans, who have never performed well on European soil, faltered badly despite high expectations.
 
 In addition, during Arena's tenure, the national team youth programs failed to achieve notable success despite the presence of some young talent, while his abrasive manner left many cold.
 
 In hindsight, many people have begun to realize that Arena's record was padded out with many wins ?? usually accomplished at home ?? against opposition that fell short of the top level. In particular, Arena's pre-World Cup friendly schedule ?? Latvia, Morocco and Venezuela ?? was widely mocked as insufficient; of course the USA also managed to lose to Morocco in the process.
 
 Klinsmann, who is fluent in English and German, is one of the most "American" former European pros out there. Married to an American, Debbie Chin, he has long lived in Southern California and was actually subject to heavy criticism by the German media and Federation prior to the 2006 World Cup for spending too much time in the States.
 
 Moreover, he was questioned for injecting "American ideas" into a moribund German side. Klinsmann hired American-trained fitness trainers and a sports psychologist and displayed a relentless optimism that seemed to overwhelm the traditionally staid German sports culture.
 
 In that respect, he seems perfect for the modernist American soccer scene, which has long depended upon the Bradenton-based academy partnership with IMG for top player development.
 
 Klinsmann also knows a bit about American players, and clearly has a well-developed sense of humor: He played alongside a handful of them with a California-based USL development team in 2003 under a pseudonym, "Jay Goppingen."
 
 Klinsmann enters at a fortuitous time ?? but also with an extremely difficult task ahead. He has already won over the small core of "hardcore" soccer fans in America (he has been their consensus pick for months now) and is an internationally recognized name in the sport, even to the sometime removed editorial class of American sports journalism.
 
 In addition, Klinsmann will benefit from a small wave of European-trained players now making their way through the ranks to challenge for positions. Jay Demerit (Watford), Benny Feilhaber (Hamburg), Marcus Hahnemann (Reading), Tim Howard (Everton/Manchester United) and Jonathan Spector (West Ham) are all playing consistently and can provide the badly-needed fills for certain holes. Only Hahnemann and Howard, both goalkeepers, were included on the 2006 World Cup roster.
 
 Klinsmann surely has his work cut out for him. His biggest job may well be reforming a stagnant culture within U.S. Soccer itself. Too many areas of the sport's growth in the United States have stalled while too few in the soccer business seem to realize that corporate sponsorship does not mean mainstream success.
 
 Both the men's national teams and the professional league (MLS) are finding it hard to attract consistent, significant numbers of fans at the gate as well. The fact remains that outside of World Cup years, most American sports fans pay little attention to soccer. Klinsmann will have to cajole not just sponsors but the media and the fans as well. He seems well suited for the task, but it is an open question whether sports talk radio ?? still a bellwether for industry trends ?? will warm to the affable German or pay more than the occasional minute of attention to the USA's games.
 
 Klinsmann will also have to make peace with the players. There's no question that the drawn-out selection process has irked the men of the national team, or rather, the players who feel they will be or should be on it. By sitting idle for so long, they have lost paychecks, and more than one of them has said in conversation that they fail to understand why they aren't active on available FIFA dates. January's scheduled match against Denmark, likely to showcase a squad of home-based players rather than a full team if history is any guide, has done little to quiet those rumblings.
 
 For now, Klinsmann will have a holiday honeymoon. He will likely spend the next month or two emailing players from that Starbucks in Orange County, and hire scouts to examine the overlooked Americans toiling in Scandinavia and England's Championship. If he's smart, he'll make overhauling the youth development system a priority while his political clout is at the apogee.
 
 And then, like all of us, he'll have to wait and see just what he has to work with. All the charm in the world cannot alter the fact that the Americans still don't have the talent to win consistently at the elite levels of the game, especially on European soil. Changing that fact will be his biggest challenge. If he is successful, it would be an admirable legacy indeed.
 
 Contact Jamie at Jamie.trecker@gmail.com
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 05, 2006, 08:32:00 pm
Ronaldinho's goal tonight against Werder Bremen makes him not only a great player but also makes him a truly intelligent guy, great to have him in Barcelona.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 06, 2006, 01:55:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Ronaldinho's goal tonight against Werder Bremen makes him not only a great player but also makes him a truly intelligent guy, great to have him in Barcelona.
Just saw it - that was cheeky....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Venerable Bede on December 07, 2006, 04:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Another early Xmas present....
 
 German legend to lead U.S. Soccer
 Jamie Trecker / Fox Soccer Channel
 Posted: 2 hours ago
 
 Jürgen Klinsmann will be named head coach of the U.S. men's national team within two weeks according to a number of well-placed sources with knowledge of the deal.
 
 
not so fast-
 
 Klinsmann withdraws from consideration as U.S. coach
 
 By RONALD BLUM, AP Sports Writer
 December 7, 2006
 
 Juergen Klinsmann withdrew Thursday from consideration as coach of the U.S. soccer team after several months of talks failed to lead to an agreement, a U.S. Soccer Federation official told The Associated Press.
 
 The official said an announcement would be made later Thursday. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the USSF statement had not yet been released.
 
 Earlier this week, it appeared the USSF and Klinsmann were moving toward an agreement. Authority had been as big an issue as money in the talks, a second person familiar with the negotiations said, also speaking on condition of anonymity.
 
 Klinsmann had been the favorite to succeed Bruce Arena, who was let go in July after 7 1/2 years. Arena coached the American team to the World Cup quarterfinals in 2002, the best showing by the United States since the initial tournament in 1930, but the U.S. team was eliminated in the first round this year.
 
 A close friend of Arena, Klinsmann led Germany to the World Cup semifinals this year in his first professional coaching assignment. He lives in Newport Beach, Calif. -- a close commute to the practice facility in Carson where the Americans often train.
 
 Updated on Thursday, Dec 7, 2006 3:02 pm EST
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 07, 2006, 05:39:00 pm
bummer
 
 HOWEVER yesterday's toooooon match was not. totally exciting, with the correct result. thank you dvr
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 07, 2006, 05:52:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bummer
 
 HOWEVER yesterday's toooooon match was not. totally exciting, with the correct result. thank you dvr
Venerable is off my Xmas card list.
 
 As for the Toon, the wife said the match was on in the background while she was studying and said it wasn't anything special so I waited until just after midnight last night to watch it, planning on FFing through it.  Last time I listen to her.  It was a great match and I didn't get to sleep until way too late!
 
 And United looked damn good as well.
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Post by: vansmack on December 07, 2006, 06:54:00 pm
This is just stupid.
 
 Bradley to be Named Interim US Head Coach
 
 The U.S. Soccer Federation on Friday will name current Chivas USA coach Bob Bradley as U.S. national team coach a source close to the negotiations confirmed to ESPN.com on Thursday. But the hiring is only temporary.
 
 After lengthy negotiations with former German national team coach Juergen Klinsmann fell through, the USSF decided to stay close to home with its choice to replace Bruce Arena as U.S. men's national soccer team head coach.
 
 Bradley, who won an MLS Cup title with the Chicago Fire in 1998 and was recently named MLS Coach of the Year, will be hired on an interim basis, with the USSF expected to begin a new search at some point during the summer. Sources would not confirm whether Bradley will still be head coach when the U.S. national team is due to take part in the CONCACAF Gold Cup (June 6-24) and Copa Libertadores (June 26-July 15) this summer. The announcement puts an end to a more than five-month long search to find a replacement for Arena, who had his own eight-year stint as U.S. coach end after the team was eliminated in the group stages of the 2006 World Cup without winning a match.
 
 Klinsmann was the favorite for the job almost after he resigned from the German national team immediately after the World Cup, but he and U.S. Soccer president Sunil Gulati never could come to an agreement.
 
 Gulati had considered a long list of candidates, including former Argentina coach Jose Pekerman, current Manchester United assistant coach Carlos Queiroz and current Lyon coach Gerard Houllier, but chose to hire Bradley to handle coaching duties for the next six months. Bradley is expected to be considered for the position once the search resumes.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 08, 2006, 12:04:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Ronaldinho's goal tonight against Werder Bremen makes him not only a great player but also makes him a truly intelligent guy, great to have him in Barcelona.
amazing goal....genius....pity we didn't see him at this level in Germany
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 08, 2006, 12:35:00 pm
Saturday, Dec 9
 
 07:45 Man United v Man City (Setanta)  
 10:00 Blackburn v Newcastle (SetantaX)
 10:00 Spurs v Charlton (FSC)  
 10:00 Liverpool v Fulham (Setanta)
 12:00 Bolton v West Ham (FSC)
 2:15 Portsmouth v Everton (FSC)
 
   
 Sunday, Dec 10
 
 11:00 Chelsea v Arsenal (FSC)
 
 
 Monday, Dec 11
 
 3:00 Sheffield United v Aston Villa (FSC)  
 
 
 Wednesday, Dec 13
 
 2:30 Chelsea v Newcastle (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 08, 2006, 01:25:00 pm
horrible decision on the usa's part
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 08, 2006, 01:36:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  horrible decision on the usa's part
I'm so mad I'm not even ready to talk about it yet.  I've already decided to go talk to Klinsmann at that Starbuck's he hangs out when I'm in The OC over the break.  I want to know what happened - I'm guessing power play between the Board and Klinsmann.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 08, 2006, 02:39:00 pm
i think the rumor is control over the squad selection
 
 us soccer should thank its lucky stars that a top manager would entertain even the notion of coming over
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 08, 2006, 03:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i think the rumor is control over the squad selection
 
 us soccer should thank its lucky stars that a top manager would entertain even the notion of coming over
I agree.  Give him whatever he wants.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 09, 2006, 10:51:00 am
hey smackie, what's the best way to get games on my computer? trying to figure it out, but cant
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 11, 2006, 03:09:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hey smackie, what's the best way to get games on my computer? trying to figure it out, but cant
To watch them live, I used to use Cool Streaming or PPLive, but I haven't had to do that in a while so I'm not sure if they still work.
 
 If you missed them and want to download them, you can bittorrent them through fbtz.com, if that's still running.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 11, 2006, 12:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hey smackie, will i ever see the toon on fox soccer channel ever again?
I'm counting on the newly resurgent toon to take at least a point of chelsea this week!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 11, 2006, 04:14:00 pm
guess it depends who's healthy
 
 which is no one
 
 i dont think that emre or solano are going to see action
 
 which means luque and rossi upfront with martins
 
 butt and the kids in the middle
 
 doesnt matter who's at defense, they're all pretty horrible
 
 hard to get a point against chelski with that  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 15, 2006, 01:17:00 am
you gave em a tough time - I would have been thrilled with a scoreless draw - oh well
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 15, 2006, 01:19:00 am
well on Sunday I will be at Upton Park watching my beloved Manchester United against West Ham - hopefully the Hammers won't be too fired up for Curbs and we can get another 3 points under our belt
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 15, 2006, 11:08:00 am
sounds like an awesome time, have a good one
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  you gave em a tough time - I would have been thrilled with a scoreless draw - oh well
losing zogs was tough though. hopefully parker and dyer will be back this weekend
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 15, 2006, 12:12:00 pm
promising games in the last sixteen of the Champions League.
 
 Oporto - Chelsea
 Celtic - Milan
 PSV - Arsenal
 Lille - Manchester United
 Roma - Olympique Lyon
 Barcelona - Liverpool
 Real Madrid - Bayern Munich
 Inter Milan - Valencia
 
 my predictions:
 Chelsea
 Milan
 Arsenal
 Manchester United
 Lyon
 Barcelona
 Bayern Munich
 Valencia
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 15, 2006, 03:29:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  well on Sunday I will be at Upton Park watching my beloved Manchester United against West Ham - hopefully the Hammers won't be too fired up for Curbs and we can get another 3 points under our belt
Seriously?  At first I said not very nice things about you, but that's just because I'm super jealous.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 15, 2006, 03:42:00 pm
Saturday, Dec 16
 
 7:45 Charlton v Liverpool (Setanta)
 10:00 Arsenal v Portsmouth (Setanta)
 10:00 Newcastle v Watford (SetantaX)  
 10:00 Wigan v Sheffield United (FSC)
 12:00 Man City v Tottenham (FSC)
 2:15 Reading v Blackburn (FSC)
   
 Sunday, Dec 17
 
 08:30 Everton v Chelsea (Setanta)
 11:00 West Ham v Manchester United (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 15, 2006, 07:40:00 pm
bleh
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: xcanuck on December 18, 2006, 12:48:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 11:00 West Ham v Manchester United (FSC)
West Ham 1 Man United 0
 
 Well, holy crap indeed. A fun game, nonetheless.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 20, 2006, 03:33:00 pm
Have a good holiday, footballers!
 
 Saturday, Dec 23
 
 7:45 Fulham v West Ham (Setanta)
 10:00 Aston Villa v Man United (Setanta)  
 10:00 Liverpool v Watford  (FSC)  
 12:00 Wigan v Chelsea (FSC)  
 2:15  Newcastle v Tottenham (FSC)
 
 Tuesday, Dec. 26
 
 8:00 Tottenham v Aston Villa (FSC)
 8:00 Chelsea vs Reading (Setanta)
 10:00 West Ham v Portsmouth (FSC)
 10:00 Man United v Wigan (SetantaX, replayed at 12 on Set)
 10:00 Blackburn vs Liverpool (Setanta)
 12:30 Watford v Arsenal (FSC)  
 3:00  Bolton v Newcastle (FSC)
 
  Saturday, Dec. 30  
 
 8:00 Charlton vs Aston Villa (Set)
 10:00 Chelsea v Fulham (FSC)
 10:00 Tottenham v Liverpool (SetX, replayed at 12 on Set)
 10:00 Man United vs Reading (Set)  
 12:00 Sheffield Utd. v Arsenal (FSC)  
 2:15 Everton v Newcastle (FSC - 4 in a row!)  
 
 Sunday, Dec. 31  
 11:00 West Ham v Manchester City (FSC)  
 
 Monday, January 1 2007
 8:00 Liverpool vs Bolton (Set)
 10:00 Portsmouth vs Tottenham (Set)
 10:00 Manchester City v Everton (FSC)
 12:00 Reading vs West Ham (Set)  
 12:00 Newcastle v Manchester Utd. (FSC)    
 2:15  Wigan v Blackburn (FSC)  
 
 Tuesday, Jan. 2
 3:00  Aston Villa v Chelsea (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 24, 2006, 08:15:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  well on Sunday I will be at Upton Park watching my beloved Manchester United against West Ham - hopefully the Hammers won't be too fired up for Curbs and we can get another 3 points under our belt
Seriously?  At first I said not very nice things about you, but that's just because I'm super jealous. [/b]
yes, seriously - twas the best of times and the worst of times - fantastic taking the tube out to the game and soaking up all the pre match atmosphere, fantastic watching the Chelsea-Everton game underneath the visiting supporters stand....until Chelsea snuck away with the win, fantastic learning and then singing a bunch of chants I hadn't heard before......great atmosphere overall....but a terrible game, bereft of any of the sparkling play United have shown this year and then a jammy goal at the end meant that it was effectively a 6 point swing on the day.....but a great experience
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 27, 2006, 04:56:00 pm
for some reason my dvr recorded the wrong boxing day match. fuckers
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 30, 2006, 03:53:00 pm
MOU-RIN-I-HO are you listenin'
 you'd better keep that trophy glistening
 we'll be back in May, to take it away
 walkin' in a Fergie wonderland!!!!!
 
 6 points clear, +13 goal difference, not bad heading into the new year!!!   :D    :D    :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 30, 2006, 04:50:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  MOU-RIN-I-HO are you listenin'
 you'd better keep that trophy glistening
 we'll be back in May, to take it away
 walkin' in a Fergie wonderland!!!!!
 
 6 points clear, +13 goal difference, not bad heading into the new year!!!    :D      :D      :D  
Everton demanded got an apology out of Morono for saying Andy Johnson is a diver....Fergie (tongue in cheek) demanded one too, because Morono said chelski would be top by christmas!!
 
 As long as United can stay relatively healthy the premiership is ours...if we get injuries we'll struggle because there's just no strength in depth at the moment. Old money-bags at Stamford Bridge could field two premiership teams with their squad. If we get Rossi back and he plays to his potential, get Alan Smith back to his best and buy Hargreaves from Bayern Munich I think we'll be fine..but that's three 'ifs'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 02, 2007, 01:16:00 pm
guess one of the few times you're allowed to feel good about a home draw is when you are facing manure
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 02, 2007, 02:06:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  for some reason my dvr recorded the wrong boxing day match. fuckers
You should have been watching live....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 02, 2007, 02:15:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  guess one of the few times you're allowed to feel good about a home draw is when you are Newcastle United
indeed...
 
 You know you're team is shyte when your best player is the goalie.....How's it working out up there with Michael Owen!!!    :p
 
 Seriously....I didn't get to see the game but it was a cracker evidently.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 02, 2007, 02:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 
 Seriously....I didn't get to see the game but it was a cracker evidently.
Oi, Scholesy, despite scoring twice, was abysmal on defense partnered with the turnover that is known as Darren Fletcher.  Both Toon goals came from outside the 18 yard box due to their inablility to properly close out.  Argh...
 
 Entertaining match though as niether team played very well on defense creating a lot of offense.  United should have scored more than 2 goals when they have 20+ scoring chances though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 02, 2007, 04:12:00 pm
is it any wonder that given is their best player with that defence? good luck staying above chelski after drawing against an oh-so-terrible side
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 02, 2007, 04:18:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  is it any wonder that given is their best player with that defence? good luck staying above chelski after drawing against an oh-so-terrible side
Watching Chelski play without Terry reminds me of the agonizing 8 months United spent without Ferdinand.  They're in big trouble without Terry.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 02, 2007, 04:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  is it any wonder that given is their best player with that defence? good luck staying above chelski after drawing against an oh-so-terrible side
It's okay...Given is Ireland's best player too. That little island is struggling with it's football, but what a rugby team they've got.  :eek:  If  you consider the population of the island is about 5million, take out the eastern european, English, German and French immigrants and it's down to about 1,500, and they can produce a team like that when the GAA is also feeding off it's athletes is pretty amazing. They're Irish too, not like the footie team who get in the squad because they're brits with an Irish great grandma or whatever. How many Irish accents are in the Irish football squad?
 
 Chelski's problem goes much deeper than Terry's bad back....that team has much bigger injury woes with bruised ego's. I'm still waiting patiently for that train wreck. If United can hold on to win the premiership and chelski don't win the champions league, morono will be gone and there will be a fire-sale at Stamford Bridge. Why couldn't Abrmaovich buy racehorses like real billionaires do?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 02, 2007, 05:59:00 pm
Tonights game
 
 Aston Villa 0 - 0 Chelski
 
 and for those interested in the mid-table goings on....
 
 Arseholes 4 - 0 Charlton
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 02, 2007, 06:39:00 pm
ireland has damien duff too   :(  
 
 both injured   :o
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 11, 2007, 12:22:00 pm
Wow (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=399471&cc=5739)
 
 not bad for a washed up midfielder!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2007, 12:48:00 pm
yeah...wow
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2007, 01:11:00 pm
The NY-NJ Metro-Stars/Red Bulls must be pissed.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2007, 01:19:00 pm
i thought they were going for the fat ronaldo
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2007, 01:44:00 pm
They are, but Becks is the bigger draw.
 
 This is akin to Bonds leaving MLB for Taiwan, as far as I'm concerned.  Which is fine, as long as the best US players keep coming to Europe to learn how to REALLY play the game, I'm fine with MLS getting all the washed up Euros.
 
 Of course, I'm not sure the entire MLS is worth $250 Million....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on January 11, 2007, 02:01:00 pm
I wish Ronaldo, Beckham, Van Nilstelrooy, Roberto Carlos, Raul, Cannavaro (amazing how bad he is playing)... stayed in Madrid a couple more years. It is so fun to see the amounts Real Madrid spends every year and the daily problems in the team.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2007, 02:07:00 pm
So if you're Real, what do you do with Becks the rest of the season?  You have to transfer him, right?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2007, 02:23:00 pm
Saturday, January 13
 
 07:45 Watford v Liverpool (Setanta)
 10:00 Man United v Aston Villa (Setanta)
 10:00 West Ham v Fulham (SetantaX)  
 10:00 Chelsea v Wigan (FSC)
 12:00 Blackburn v Arsenal (FSC)
 2:15 Bolton v Man City (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, January 14
 
 08:40 Everton v Reading (Setanta)  
 11:00 Spurs v Newcastle (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 11, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
For fear of sounding cynical...Becks joing the LA Galaxy has nothing to do with football or money, it all has to do with Posh trying to get her *ahem* musical career back on track.
 
 Also, for fear of offending the US Soccer federation, which is not my intent...where in God's name is he going to play in the real football leagues when he's got Man Utd and R. Madrid on his resume. Any other team would be a step down, with possibly the exception of Barca, but at 31 he's too old for them now.
 
 I think it's great, really...he can use his celebrity status to promote the sport over here in the USA, but just make sure you keep sending your top talent to Europe to learn the game properly, then get your national team a European coach and The US will be a major contender in the not too distant future.
 
 BTW....remember my prediction about chelski and the train wreck???? It's happening sooner than I thought.  :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2007, 02:50:00 pm
Fulham given green light for £3m Dempsey
 Paul Logothetis
 Thursday January 11, 2007
 The Guardian
 
 Clint Dempsey has become the third United States international at Fulham after receiving a work permit yesterday. Dempsey, the 2004 Major League Soccer rookie of the year, arrives from New England Revolution in a deal that could eventually be worth £3m.
 
 The 23-year-old midfielder will join his fellow countrymen Carlos Bocanegra and Brian McBride, who were brought to the club by the Craven Cottage manager Chris Coleman in January 2004. Fulham are also in talks with the American defender Oguchi Onyewu, who is reportedly close to making a £1m switch from the Belgian side Standard Liège.
 
 The Home Office panel approved the permit for Dempsey even though he has played less than 75% of the US team's recent games. He has, however, been involved in nine of their 13 matches last year, giving him 23 caps. Dempsey scored the only goal by an American at last year's World Cup.
 
 "We're pleased this opportunity worked out for Clint," said Steve Nicol, the New England coach and former Liverpool defender. "He has been a tremendous player for us. Clint developed his game a great deal during his time with the Revolution. It's a great credit to him and the level of play in MLS that Fulham pushed so hard to get him."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2007, 03:26:00 pm
yeah, why would you want to play for (say) everton or lazio, work your ass off, and still have all the presure. better to go to l.a., get some sun and play some games
 
 maybe he can show landon donovan a thing or two as well
 
 dempsey's deal is great also, i know he wanted to go in the summer
 
 not too shabby for the u.s. too bad they didnt land dreamcoach
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2007, 03:30:00 pm
Adam (Taunton, MA): Tommy, I saw you on Press Pass stating that Beckham was reportedly going to make $9 million/year. Now I'm reading 5 years at $250 million. That's $50 million a year! DC United just sold for $30 million a few weeks ago! Does this make any sense financially?
 
  Tommy Smyth: (2:19 PM ET ) The fact they are reporting 250 million is in my opinion what the deal will be worth to Beckham in the 5 years that he plays with the Galaxy. The Galaxy are not paying 250 million, but he will making that sort of money with endorsements and image rights, etc.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 16, 2007, 06:16:00 pm
Football in America
 
 Beckham??s away win
 Jan 12th 2007
 From Economist.com
 
 David Beckham won't make Americans watch soccer
 
 DAVID BECKHAM gained the nickname ??Goldenballs? as much for his earning power as for his footballing skills. Even if the latter may be in decline, the news this week that England??s most famous footballer would join Los Angeles Galaxy at the end of Europe??s domestic season confirmed that he has lost none of the former. He will leave Real Madrid, one of Europe??s top clubs, in return for a five-year deal worth as much as $250m. The ex-captain of England is set to end his career with a team that is not even the best among the dozen clubs of America??s top league, Major League Soccer (MLS). But salary, image rights and a share of the profits should see Mr Beckham rake in the sort of sums he has grown used to having in Europe.
 
 What America stands to gain in return is less obvious. Association football??soccer??has always struggled for popularity in the United States. LA Galaxy and America??s football authorities apparently believe that buying a 31-year-old megastar, albeit one near the end of his career, may somehow give a jolt to the game, encouraging the creation of similar audiences to those attracted by baseball, basketball and American football.
 
  But Mr Beckham is unlikely to have a big impact. Football has long struggled to find big audiences. The North American Soccer League ran from 1968-84 and sometimes attracted decent crowds, especially after siging up ageing stars such as Pele and George Best. But when the flow of foreign talent dried up so did the crowds and the league was closed.
 
 The latest attempt to sell soccer to America, MLS, was established as a condition of hosting the 1994 World Cup. It too has failed to thrive. Although dollars have been poured in by individuals and corporations keen to boost the game, it remains a peripheral spectator sport. MLS had predicted that crowds would grow by some 10-15% a year. But they have not. Matches drew an average of around 15,000 spectators a decade ago and get about the same today. Nor are viewers flocking to the small screen. Last November??s MLS Cup, won by Houston Dynamo, was watched in 800,000 households, a fifth fewer than the year before.
 
 A common explanation is that viewers enthralled with high-scoring games like baseball and American football will never warm to a game that all too often ends at 0-0. Yet there should be a sizeable audience waiting to watch: perhaps 17m Americans, many of them young, Latino and female, play football. Many of these, one might expect, would also be ready to watch the game.
 
 In fact, Americans interested in football may simply consider the domestic product to be substandard. Cable channels broadcast matches from the world??s top leagues to show how it should be played. A wage cap of under $2m per 18-man squad, intended to nurture domestic talent rather then expensive foreign imports, has deterred top athletes who can earn far more in other sports. A new rule, of which Mr Beckham has taken advantage, now allows a side to employ two designated players who are not covered by the capping system. His arrival may attract other top stars but an influx of European celebrities looking for a sinecure in their footballing dotage will hardly change the structure of the game in America.
 
 Don Garber, who runs MLS, admitted last year that without the core support of Latinos professional soccer would not exist in America. Exhibition matches between Real Madrid, Barcelona and MLS sides drew big crowds last year. Many MLS sides are employing Spanish marketing teams and a mid-week competition with Mexican club sides is planned for next season. Latinos may not have the same draw for advertisers as the affluent middle-class folk whose children like to play the game. But if MLS wants to expand the clubs should consider importing rising stars from Spain and Latin America rather than overpaying players now somewhat past their best.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 16, 2007, 09:35:00 pm
good luck with that last part
 
 why does fsc hate liverpool so much? dont get to see the clash with chelski this weekend   :mad:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 17, 2007, 01:36:00 am
I'm guessing FSC had first choice and chose Arseholes v. United instead.
 
 Saturday, Jan 20
 
 07:45 Liverpool v Chelsea (Setanta)  
 10:00 Aston Villa v Watford (SetantaX)
 10:00 Fulham v Spurs (Setanta)
 10:00 Newcastle v West Ham (FSC)  
 12:15 Man City v Blackburn (FSC)
 14:15 Portsmouth v Charlton (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, Jan 21
 
 08:30 Wigan v Everton (Setanta)  
 11:00 Arsenal v Man United (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 17, 2007, 12:16:00 pm
i dont think fsc ever has the lunch game
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 17, 2007, 05:25:00 pm
You could be right.  The TiVo just says "Premiereship Soccer" so I don't really pay attention to what channel its on.
 
 And, oh, how quickly we've fallen:
 
 Top 20 FIFA World Rankings:
 1. Brazil 1588 points
 2. Italy 1560
 3. Argentina 1551
 4. France 1523
 5. Germany 1363
 6. England 1359
 7. Netherlands 1305
 8. Portugal 1258
 9. Nigeria 1244
 10. Czech Republic 1190
 11. Cameroon 1160
 12. Spain 1154
 13. Ukraine 1054
 14. Sweden 958
 15. Croatia 948
 16. Greece 945
 17. Switzerland 937
 18. Ivory Coast 919
 19. Egypt 918
 20. Romania 912
 
 31. United States
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 17, 2007, 05:29:00 pm
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31. United States
could be worse...
 
 47. N. Ireland
 49. Ireland
 74. Wales
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 17, 2007, 07:02:00 pm
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49. Ireland
please tell me i'm not going to have to support england again in euro 08
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 17, 2007, 09:03:00 pm
After seeing today's Cup results, you've got bigger problems than the Euro finals....
 
 How do you play so well against Spurs then shit the bed so badly against Birmingham?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 18, 2007, 11:45:00 am
part of me is a bit relieved. squad's too thin for 3 compititions
 
 didnt watch it but supposedly given was even bad
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2007, 07:29:00 pm
6 Memorable Goals Against Arsenal (http://mu.tv.manutd.com/default.aspx?p=channels/C6Freeview)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 19, 2007, 02:04:00 pm
Bummer.  I like Feyenoord.  This was one of the more promising matches of the Round of 32.
 
 Updated: Jan. 19, 2007
 Feyenoord thrown out of UEFA CupAssociated Press
 
 NYON, Switzerland -- The Dutch club Feyenoord was expelled from the UEFA Cup on Friday because of crowd disturbances.  
 
 Feyenoord was set to meet Tottenham in the round of 32 of Europe's second-tier club competition. UEFA officials will meet Monday to decide whether the English club will have to play another opponent instead.
 
 Feyenoord fans fought and smashed windows at Nancy before ripping out and throwing seats during a 3-0 loss on Nov. 30 in the French city.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 19, 2007, 02:42:00 pm
i thought the dutch were supposed to be nice
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 19, 2007, 02:47:00 pm
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i thought the dutch were supposed to be nice
au contraire (http://www.expatica.com/actual/article.asp?subchannel_id=63&story_id=54)  
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i thought the dutch were supposed to be nice
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 19, 2007, 04:02:00 pm
too much hash
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 20, 2007, 10:38:00 am
never thought I'd say this but Liverpool, you beauties, you absolute fucking beauties!!!!
 
   <img src="http://soccernet-att.espn.go.com/design05/images/domr/kuytpennant_al_g.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on January 20, 2007, 01:59:00 pm
Always great to see Mourinho's Chelsea lose a game. But I am bit worried to play Liverpool in the last 16 of the Champions League, while they can badly lose two games in a row at home against Arsenal, the following week they can easily beat a team like Chelsea. Barcelona needs to respect Liverpool as much as Man. United, Arsenal or Chelsea.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on January 21, 2007, 03:28:00 pm
Wonderful finish this morning!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 23, 2007, 12:51:00 am
WEST HAM: Jonathon Spector (D)
 FULHAM: Carlos Bocanegra (D), Brian McBride (S), Clint Dempsey (M)
 READING: Bobby Convey (M), Marcus Hahnemann (G)
 MAN CITY: DeMarcus Beasley (M)
 BLACKBURN: Brad Friedel (G)
 EVERTON: Tim Howard (G)
 
 Not a bad weekend for US Soccer players in England...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 23, 2007, 10:40:00 am
almost as many american keepers in the epl as brits
 
 where's the manusa supporters reaction to last weekend's match?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 23, 2007, 01:22:00 pm
I'm not ready to talk about it yet.  I've been on the other end of those victories so many times, that I'm just not ready to accept it.  The last thing I would have thought would be United to take a 0-1 lead and lose 2-1, especially to Arsenal, known quitters.  A golden opportunity wasted.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 23, 2007, 01:25:00 pm
yeah, gutted
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 25, 2007, 10:12:00 am
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originially posted by vanchester united
 WEST HAM: Jonathon Spector (D)
 FULHAM: Carlos Bocanegra (D), Brian McBride (S), Clint Dempsey (M)
 READING: Bobby Convey (M), Marcus Hahnemann (G)
 MAN CITY: DeMarcus Beasley (M)
 BLACKBURN: Brad Friedel (G)
 EVERTON: Tim Howard (G)
 
 Not a bad weekend for US Soccer players in England...
looks like you might have to add:
 NEWCASTLE: Oguchi Onyewu (D)
 http://www.newcastleutd-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=321032 (http://www.newcastleutd-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=321032)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 25, 2007, 05:46:00 pm
Great signing for both Toon and him.  You've got holes and he needs the experience.  He's going to be a great defender one day.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 25, 2007, 06:19:00 pm
i've read since i posted that it might not be a done deal  :(
 
 pretty perfect if you ask me
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 25, 2007, 06:31:00 pm
I too saw that Roeder was downplaying it as he was discounting Gavrancic.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 25, 2007, 07:03:00 pm
would be a bummer if they dont bring anyone in
 
 but better than bringing in players that arent quality
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 28, 2007, 08:54:00 pm
Okay,my therapist said it would be okay to address my "issue" now....if arseholes keep sqeaking out these wins they may even make it into europe next season, and play such giants as FC Boratstan. 6 points out of 6 from United is pretty much grounds for suicide in my house.
 
 Hey at least that Freight train is still heading full speed through Stamford Bridge!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2007, 01:19:00 pm
ONYEWU TO FRANCE
 
 SAN FRANCISCO (SI.com) -- U.S. central defender Oguchi Onyewu is transferring to French club Olympique Marseille, according to a report in SoccerTimes.com.
 
 The 24-year-old, who has played for Belgian club Standard de Liège since 2004, had been linked with some of the top teams in Europe, including Real Madrid, Chelsea, AC Milan and Lyon.
 
 Marseille will reportedly pay Standard a $4 million transfer fee.
 
 Earlier this month, Standard rejected a reported $2 million transfer fee from Premiership club Fulham, which would have reunited Onyewu with fellow Team USA members Brian McBride, Carlos Bocanegra and Clint Dempsey, all of whom play for Fulham.
 
 Standing 6-foot-4 and weighing 210 pounds, "Gooch" has developed a reputation as a big, bruising defender and was a key member of the United States' back line at the World Cup in Germany last summer. Following the tournament, the Washington, D.C.-area native turned down an offer to move to English club Middlesbrough.
 
 Onyewu was recently voted Athlete of the Year by the U.S. Soccer Federation. He made his first appearance for the U.S. national team in '04.
 
 Onyewu's arrival as a Team USA stalwart, however, was during a World Cup qualifying victory vs. Mexico in September '05 in Columbus, Ohio. Onyewu dominated Mexico's star striker, Jared Borgetti, helping the U.S. win that game 2-0 and clinch a spot in Germany '06 as a result.
 
 Marseille is one of the biggest and best-supported teams in France, and is the only French club to have won the European Champions League, in 1993. L'OM also has eight Ligue 1 titles and a record 10 French Cup titles to its credit, as well as a Champions League runner-up spot in '91 and two UEFA Cup runner-up spots.
 
 The club has hit a slump in recent years, however, failing to finish higher than third place in the French league since the '02-03 season. Marseille is currently in second place behind leader Lyon, and is nearing a purchase by Canadian businessman Jack Kachkar.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 29, 2007, 01:24:00 pm
he's supposedly at st james park getting a medical today, according to espn. weird
    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=405435&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=405435&cc=5901)
 edit: si has it too:  http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/01/29/bc.eu.spt.soc.newcastle.onyewu.ap/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/01/29/bc.eu.spt.soc.newcastle.onyewu.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2007, 02:00:00 pm
My source was an email sent to me over the weekend from an American living in Brussels.
 
 This should be interesting...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 29, 2007, 02:30:00 pm
sounds like he really wants to go to england. rumor is its a loan with first look to buy. supposedly piquionne from st etienne and ryan babel (!!!) from ajax are still in the mix strikerwise too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 30, 2007, 01:53:00 pm
Tomorrows a great day to call in sick:
 
 Tue, Jan 30
 
 2:30 Portsmouth v Middlesboro (FSC)
 2:30 Reading v Wigan (SetantaX)
 2:30 West Ham v Liverpool (Setanta)  
 
 Wednesday, Jan 31
 
 2:30 Newcastle v Aston Villa (SetantaX)
 2:30 Chelsea v Blackburn (FSC)  
 2:30 Arsenal v Spurs (Setanta)  
 
 5:00 Bolton v Charlton (FSC)  
 
 7:00 Man Utd v Watford (Setanta)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 30, 2007, 02:50:00 pm
i dont think newcastle is on fsc at all in feb   :mad:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 01, 2007, 04:08:00 pm
.....I wonder why!    :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 01, 2007, 04:53:00 pm
because fsc is in love with ass10 villa/west spam? surely 'pool/toon would bring in more viewers. you know that other sides have support in the u.s. other than the ones owned by doodles, right?   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 01, 2007, 06:00:00 pm
I think they're not putting Newcastle on telly because bottom of the table battles to avoid relegation don't get exciting until the last couple of weeks of the season.....
 
 BTW, this confirms that Lippi is the next chelski manager...
 
 Mourinho receives Chelsea backing  
 
 
 Chelsea have responded to claims they have lined up Marcello Lippi as their next manager with a public show of support for current boss Jose Mourinho.
 "No list of candidates has been drawn up to replace Jose Mourinho," said a Chelsea statement on Thursday.
 
 "Nobody from Chelsea has spoken to Mr Lippi or his representatives or indeed anyone regarding the manager's job.

 
 "As previously stated, Jose Mourinho has a contract until 2010 and has the support of everybody at Chelsea."
 
 
 ***He's so out of there come summer!***
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2007, 08:21:00 pm
Saturday, Feb 3
 
 7:45 Liverpool v Everton (Setanta)
 10:00 Fulham v Newcastle (SetantaX - replay on Set at 12:00)
 10:00 Charlton v Chelsea (Setanta)  
 10:00 Aston Villa v West Ham (FSC)
 12:00 Middlesboro v Arsenal (FSC)
 2:15 Man City v Reading (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, Feb 4
 
 11:00 Spurs v Man United (FSC)
 
 I must say, I'm more excited about the United game than the Super Bowl, yet I will likely watch it with a crowd of 3 and the Super bowl with a crowd of 20.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 01, 2007, 08:46:00 pm
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posted by mank
 bottom of the table battles to avoid relegation don't get exciting until the last couple of weeks of the season.....
right. which is why (next week) putting on liverpool (3rd) against newcastle (9th) would be a better match up with a larger audience than shef (16) vs spuds (10th)
 
 by your criteria, ass10/spammers (14 v 18) is the worst fixture of the week. jus sayin
 
 really, i just want logic of some sort for the last few months before i get direct tv
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2007, 08:57:00 pm
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Posted by God (sort of)[/b]
 really, i just want logic of some sort for the last few months before i get direct tv
How else you gonna watch the Pirates this year?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 02, 2007, 08:15:00 am
BTW....is hockey on ANY channel anymore? I couldn't even find the allstar game.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 02, 2007, 09:42:00 am
its on versus, which used to be outdoor life network. i think they have some nbc games too
 
 smack, i'm not much of a baseball fan, but buccos will be a bonus on top of the steelers, pens, and just about every newcastle game AND champions league/uefa cup for about the same as i pay now. sold
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2007, 02:36:00 pm
Onyewu looked good while his team did not.  I thought he even made Bramble look better, until Bramble clumsily tackled Helgerson and should have been sent off (Soccernet incorrectly reported that it was Onyewu, rather harshly I might add, when it was in fact Bramble).
 
 His massive size is going to turn some heads in the Premiereship.  He definitely pushed some folks around.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2007, 02:56:00 pm
Tuesday, Feb 6
 
 2:45pm Northern Ireland v Wales (freindly) [Set]
 
 
 Wednesday, Feb 7
 
 1:00 Egypt v Sweden (friendly) [Set]
 3:00 France vs Argentina (friendly) [Set]
 3:00 England v Spain (friendly) [FSC]
 3:00 San Marino vs Ireland (Euro Qualifier) [Set PPV]
 
 
 Thursday, Feb 8
 
 9:30pm San Marino vs Ireland (replay) [Set]
 
 For those that don't have DirecTV, Setanta has added a Broadband channel for $11.99 a month to watch matches that are only on Setanta.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 05, 2007, 02:57:00 pm
i listened to some of it on the internet, and it was the fulham feed. announcer was all over duff for diving. bramble is so terrible, and carr isnt much better. how they get put in there above solano and either huntington or edgar is nuts
 
 if both of them play against 'pool it will be a bloodbath
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 05, 2007, 02:59:00 pm
thanks for the heads up on the broadband thing. i was thinking of going to a bar to watch the match next week
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2007, 03:09:00 pm
oh, I almost forgot...
 
 Wednesday, Feb 7
 
 9:00 pm  USA v. Mexico (Friendly) [ESPN2]
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2007, 03:16:00 pm
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God's Shoeshine correctly noted[/b]
 Carr isn't much better
Carr was flicked away without much effort by Papa Bouba Diop to set up McBride's goal.  It really was like a boy against a man on that one.  Just silly.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on February 06, 2007, 04:45:00 pm
lordy lordy, Liverscum just got bought by the guy who gave A-Rod a $252 million contract and still pays $10 mill a year for him to play for the yankees....this should be hilarious
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 06, 2007, 09:11:00 pm
i'm trying to come up with a new name for them, but my best is doodlepool
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on February 07, 2007, 05:37:00 pm
and I thought the Cyprus result was bad.....JESUS FUCKING PETE ITS FUCKING SAN MARINO FOR CHRISTS SAKE!!!! If Staunton doesn't resign IMMEDIATELY after the game he doesn't have a shred of pride
 
 I don;t care if we managed to get the 3 points with the last kick of the game that was pathetic
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 08, 2007, 02:40:00 pm
*quote*i'm trying to come up with a new name for them, but my best is doodlepool *unquote*
 
 
 Here's a few for you.....
 SCUM
 TWATS
 SHYTE
 FILTH
 MAGGOTS
 
 
 No matter who owns them, ther're still, and always will be, LIVERSCUM.
 
 
 Bressner....ROI are not only suffering from a manager who is desperately out of his depth, they are also starving for talent at the moment, and probably will be for a few years I'm afraid. Just enjoy watching your rugby team sweep everyone aside.....I'm tempted to have a little flutter on them for the world cup.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 08, 2007, 03:19:00 pm
calm down manusa
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 10, 2007, 04:16:00 pm
I don't know which is funnier...Toon winning or scum losing.
 
 And what's this about the Colorado Arsenal??? Shouldn't they have linked up with a French team so their whole squad could go home for lunch every day?????
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2007, 12:15:00 am
doodlepool losing, as they are owned by americans.  :o  sorry i cant call them liverscum, scumderland already uses 'scum' better. or would that be worse
 
 the epl has such a hardon for america, makes sense for le arse to try and get in. no offense, but they are the least hated of the big 4 among other supporters
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 11, 2007, 08:00:00 pm
....and may I take this opportunity to thank chelski for making Man Utd not the most hated team in the epl for the first time in......like......FOREVER!.
 
 Nice to see arseholes squeaked out yet another one goal victory over a mid-table team...seems like they only get motivated when playing United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 11, 2007, 08:01:00 pm
....and may I take this opportunity to personally thank chelski for making Man Utd not the most hated team in the epl for the first time in......like......FOREVER!.
 
 Nice to see arseholes came from behind and squeaked out yet another one goal victory over a mid-table team...seems like they only get motivated when playing United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 15, 2007, 01:42:00 pm
FA CUP:
 
 Saturday, Feb. 17  
 
 7:30am Arsenal v. Blackburn (FSC)    
 10:00am Chelsea v. Norwich City (FSC)
 12:15pm Man Utd v Reading (PPV)
   
 Sunday, Feb. 18  
 
 8:00am Preston North End v. Manchester City (FSC)
 11:00am Fulham v Tottenham (PPV)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 19, 2007, 04:15:00 pm
Champions League Week:
 
 Tue, Feb 20
 
 2:30 PSV v Arsenal (ESPN2)
 2:30 Lille v Man United (Setanta)  
 5:00 Real Madrid v Bayern Munich (ESPN Classic/Delayed or Setanta)
 
 Wed, Feb 21
 
 2:30 FC Porto v Chelsea (ESPN2)
 2:30 Barcelona v Liverpool (Setanta)
 5:00 Barcelona v. Liverpool (ESPN Classic/Delayed)  
 5:00 Everton v Spurs (EPL-FSC/Delayed)
 5:00 Watford v Wigan (EPL-Setanta/Delayed)  
 9:00 Inter Milan v Valencia (Set/Delayed)
 
 
 Thu, Feb 22
 
 12:30 Blackburn v Bayer Leverkusen (UEFA -Setanta)
 3:30pm Celtic v AC Milan (CL - Set/Delayed)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: bigyellow100 on February 19, 2007, 05:19:00 pm
of all the uefa cl games this week the most intriguing has to be the manchester-lille match.  common sense would dictate that manchester is going to dominate, since they are a lot better this year in addition to the fact that lille is having a down year.  but then again, looking at the 4 previous games between the two teams(1-1-2), i wouldnt be surprised if this is an upset in the making.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 19, 2007, 06:00:00 pm
With Barcelona's recent poor performance, I am afraid Liverpool has a good chance of sending us home after this round. I hope Etoo is back, Messi will surely play both games, that's the only good news after losing to Valencia yesterday.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 19, 2007, 06:25:00 pm
i almost forgot that some of those cl matches are on regular tv. thanks for the reminder
 
 i thought sentena had all of the uefa cup matches. not that anyone who's side isnt in it cares
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 20, 2007, 01:07:00 pm
It must be your handsome lead because the Toon match isn't even on Setanta Premium (PPV):
 
 Thursday, Feb 22
 
 1:15pm UEFA Cup 2nd Leg: Dinamo Bucuresti v Benfica  
 
 
 3:05pm UEFA Cup 2nd Leg: Rangers v Hapoel Tel Aviv
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 20, 2007, 02:01:00 pm
apparently they are having trouble getting people to buy tickets
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 20, 2007, 06:44:00 pm
I don't know how many of you saw it, but Giggs clearly asked the ref if he had to wait for the whistle.  A small conversation ensued, which could presumably only have been about the wall not being 10 yards back.  Giggs must have said I don't care if the wall is ten yards back, the ref stepped away from the ball, raised his arm to allow the kick and Giggsy shocked the French squad into the open net.
 
 A cagey play by a heads up veteran, that made up for a terrible first half.  The French coaches pulling their squad off the pitch after the goal reminded me of why the French Army can't claim a military victory since Napoleon.  Pussies.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 21, 2007, 07:57:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  A cagey play by a heads up veteran, that made up for a terrible first half.  The French coaches pulling their squad off the pitch after the goal reminded me of why the French Army can't claim a military victory since Napoleon.  Pussies.
I'm just relieved that nobody got injured during the crushing incident in their le petite stadium!!
 
 Small teams like Lille, Monaco, chelski and Arsenal should not be allowed to play with the big boys in the biggest club competition in the world...at least arseholes are trying to do something about their stadium.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 21, 2007, 11:16:00 am
isnt lille playing somewhere temporary while their new stadium is being built? kinda unfair to lump chelski in with that, arse already moved...and they looked terrible yesterday. i was already for some good cl action when i got home
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 21, 2007, 11:27:00 am
Haven't seen yet the Lille Man.Utd. images on tv. Any link already on Youtube?
 
 As for today´s games, I think the Barça Liverpool should be a great game, afraid to death of Gerrard and worried over Etoo´s absence.  Also the Inter-Valencia is promising. Oporto Chelsea should be good as well.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on February 21, 2007, 11:52:00 am
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bIcgGP7WlFc (http://youtube.com/watch?v=bIcgGP7WlFc)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 21, 2007, 02:36:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  isnt lille playing somewhere temporary while their new stadium is being built?
Actually, in this case they opted to play the game in the Stade Félix-Bollaert instead of PSG's Stadium, Parc des Princes, the Stade de France, or Stade Vélodrome all of which are better suited for Champions League play.  United complained about this, but UEFA ignored the complaint.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 21, 2007, 11:20:00 pm
I couldn't watch the game, but I think the Champions League is over for us. I haven't read any reviews, nothing, still too sad to read any newspaper, but all my respect for Liverpool, I guess they were better than us.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: bigyellow100 on February 22, 2007, 02:55:00 am
fuck manchester.  that game was given to them.  how that lille goal was disallowed was ridiculous.  vidic(?) took a dive and was not pushed by odemwinge...at least he wasnt pushed hard enough to fall like that.  isnt there something called "incidental contact" in soccer?  and gigg's goal was bullshit.  he was obviously talking to the ref while sylva was organizing the wall.  though it may have been "legal", it wasnt in good sportsmanship.  however, i think he still took it too early; a lot of arsenal's set pieces get called back because theyre taken too early.  
 
 man is lille pissed over this game.  the prez pretty much said that this game was fixed.
 
 as for all those security concerns, naturally, it was the manchester fans causing trouble.  like people dont throw shit anywhere else; and it was a very isolated incident at that. and the person who tried to rush the field was a manchester fan.
 
 lille operates on a budget of $40some million a year.  so theyre not going to have the best stadium, but they are building a new one.
 
 these uefa regulations are ridiculous, theyre just keeping the smaller teams down and protecting the more revenue-producing teams.  that way it would be hard for lille to have a real home advantage.  it is elitist and greatly hurts the game.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 22, 2007, 10:16:00 am
Oh dear, seems we have a sore loser here...are you an arseholes fan by chance?
 
 As for the fans, Manchester United have the best behaved fans in Europe....and the bloke who ran on the pitch was trying to get away from the crush, tear gas and night-sticks of the security....There should be a rule that if your mickey mouse team doesn't have a stadium that meets regulation you should not be allowed to compete in the competition. (that would include chelski though so I can't see it happening)
 
 Giggs asked if he could take the kick even though the wall was not 10 yards back, the ref put his arm up....the goal is scored, 1-0! Lille showed their lack of professionalism by not getting ready for the play and then walking off like cry-babies. No offense, this is the big league, not the MLS. As for the Lille goal, I didn't see it but Vidic is not one to go down, had it been Ronaldo I may listen to your bleating, but not Vidic....and why would a full back go down? It just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: bigyellow100 on February 22, 2007, 12:20:00 pm
hell yeah im a sore loser.  and im super sore because your team had to get extra help in order to beat my mickey mouse of a team.  theyre like those rich kids that get unlimited time on standardized tests because they are to stupid to read at a brisk pace.  
 
 as for the giggs goal.  yeah that shit happens a lot in the premiership, but dont a lot of the arsenal set pieces get called back because henry takes the kick too quickly?  yes they do.  that was a rhetorical question.  as for vidic.  why would he take a dive?  cause he dove for the header and whiffed.
 
 as for the security, again, it was mostly manchester fans getting fucked up and acting like fools before and during the game.  a couple of my friends who were there concede that though police force was excessive, police force was necessary to calm these clowns down.  instead of using batons, tear gas, and pepper spray, they couldve used just one.
 
 a little bit of this might be lens' fault for selling alcohol.  last year when the cl games for lille were played at the stade de france, they only served non-alcoholic beer.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 22, 2007, 12:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I couldn't watch the game, but I think the Champions League is over for us. I haven't read any reviews, nothing, still too sad to read any newspaper, but all my respect for Liverpool, I guess they were better than us.
Your back four were terrible.  You missed a few chances going forward, but your defense were full of holes.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 22, 2007, 01:02:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by bigyellow100:
  fuck manchester.  that game was given to them.  how that lille goal was disallowed was ridiculous.  vidic(?) took a dive and was not pushed by odemwinge
Really?  Seemed kind of odd that Odemwinge didn't argue at all after the push was called.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 22, 2007, 01:14:00 pm
maybe lille has more respect for the game than that
 
 wait
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 22, 2007, 01:18:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by bigyellow100:
  but dont a lot of the arsenal set pieces get called back because henry takes the kick too quickly?  yes they do.  that was a rhetorical question.  
Actually, I can only think of one, against Boro earlier this year, but that was because the ref was issuing a yellow card when Henry tried the quick kick.
 
 I do remember him scoring a goal on a quick free kick against Villa in 04.  He said he asked the ref if he could take it, the ref said sure and he scored.  When asked about it, he said I tried my luck because it's happened against me all the time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 22, 2007, 01:34:00 pm
:roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 26, 2007, 04:33:00 pm
Thoughts on the Carling Cup Final....
 
 Might be the best game I've seen this year.  Arsenal's future has me very concerned.  Thankfully, their sissy manager will still be there assuring the team will implode like we saw on Sunday.
 
 Jorge Fabergas needs to grow up.  Quickly.  And he may want to mention to Van Persie to do the same thing.  Actually, the whole lot of them...
 
 Arsenal took three quick free kicks, none of which were called back (once the ball never even stopped rolling and nearly led to a goal).
 
 I thought John Terry's playing career was over when I saw him posturing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abnormal_posturing) after the kick to the head.  Amazing.
 
 
 FA Cup this week
 
 Tue.  Feb. 27  
 
 3pm Reading v Manchester United (FSC)    
 
 Wed.  Feb. 28  
 
 3pm Blackburn v Arsenal (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 27, 2007, 11:36:00 am
....was that this weekend?.....  :roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: on February 27, 2007, 11:45:00 am
Arse & all
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on February 27, 2007, 12:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Just enjoy watching your rugby team sweep everyone aside.....I'm tempted to have a little flutter on them for the world cup.
well we stumbled badly against France but Saturday against England was one of the most amazing sporting occasions I have ever witnessed - this photo pretty much sums it up
  <img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/404691984_6f133e10fd.jpg?v=0" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 28, 2007, 08:31:00 am
In rugby there's no sore losers...excuses...whinging.
 
 Ireland are a far superior team than England right now, and probably any other team for that matter. I just hope you can stuff the spearing all blacks when you cross paths. Do it for 'Driso'
 
 All England fans have to hold on to is that we are the world cup holders, although I hope they're keeping it nice and shiney for the next winners!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 02, 2007, 02:55:00 pm
Saturday, Mar 3
 
 07:45 Liverpool v Man United (Setanta)
 10:00 Newcastle v Boro (FSC)  
 10:00 Arsenal v Reading (Setanta)  
 12:00 Pompey v Chelsea (FSC)  
 14:15 Man City v Wigan (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, Mar 4
 
 08:30 Bolton v Blackburn (Setanta)  
 11:00 West Ham v Spurs (FSC)  
 
 The first one will pretty much set the tone for my weekend.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 02, 2007, 03:04:00 pm
pretend derby day
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 03, 2007, 05:25:00 pm
HERE WE GO HERE WE GO HERE WE GO'O'O'O!!!!
 
 ONE-NIL..ONE-NIL...ONE-NI'I'I'L
 
 IN YOUR LIVERPOOL HOME,
 YOU LOOK IN THE DUSTBIN FOR SOMETHING TO EAT,
 YOU FIND A DEAD RAT AND YOU THINK IT'S A TREAT,
 YOU'RE THE DIRTIEST BASTARD I EVER DID MEET,
 IN YOUR LIVERPOOL HOME.....
 
 OH IT'S ALL GONE QUIET OVER THERE....OH IT'S ALL GONE QUIET OVER THERE...OH IT'S ALL GONE QUIET, ALL GONE QUIET, ALL GONE QUIET OVER THERE....!!!
 
 OH I'D RATHER BE A SPASTIC THAN A SCOUSE
 YES I WOULD
 I TRULY WOULD
 IF I ONLY COU'U'U'LD

 
 Phew....lucky to get away with 1 point, let alone 3!!!
 
 Hey Chelski......start polishing that premiership trophy before heads back to it's rightful home up north!!!!
 
    :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 04, 2007, 08:54:00 pm
Johnny O'shea gave me the best birthday present of them all!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 05, 2007, 04:41:00 pm
More Champions League Football this week.
 
 Tuesday, Mar 6
 
 2:30 Chelsea v Porto (Setanta)  
 2:30 Liverpool v Barca (ESPN2)  
 5:00 Chelsea v. Porto Replay (ESPN Classic)
 5:00 Lyon v AS Roma Delayed (Setanta)
 
 Wednesday, Mar 7
 
 2:30 Arsenal v PSV (Setanta)  
 2:30 Man United v Lille (ESPN2)
 5:00 Bayern Munich v. Real Madrid Delayed (ESPN Classic & Setanta)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on March 05, 2007, 04:50:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Johnny O'shea gave me the best birthday present of them all!
twas a wonderful moment....made all the more special by the obnoxious Pool supported surrounding me in the bar
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 05, 2007, 05:59:00 pm
<img src="http://woodcotesrfc.intheteam.com/site/images/3259/scouser.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 05, 2007, 06:02:00 pm
The Kop couldn't believe it when O'Shea scored the winner.....
 
  <img src="http://users.ox.ac.uk/~univ1498/scouser~.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 06, 2007, 04:39:00 pm
1-0 1-0 1-0 Come on Porto....Come on Porto!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 06, 2007, 04:53:00 pm
Sorry.  Can't check this topic for the rest of the afternoon. I wasn't able to leave work for the match.  I'll be back this evening.
 
 The same will likely go for tomorrow too.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 06, 2007, 05:52:00 pm
That blows...both scum and chelski go through.  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 06, 2007, 06:24:00 pm
Ok, time to be depressed until next September. Congratulations to Liverpool, really strong team, we lost it in the first game in Barcelona. Even though we are playing Madrid this weekend, it is really difficult to watch football now. England now has by far the best and most competitive league in Europe.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 06, 2007, 06:39:00 pm
Barca will probably struggle against Madrid after that loss. It's going to be hard for them to get upbeat and motivated after going out of the Champs League. The timing for that match couldn't be worse.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 06, 2007, 07:22:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Barca will probably struggle against Madrid after that loss. It's going to be hard for them to get upbeat and motivated after going out of the Champs League. The timing for that match couldn't be worse.
Actually Madrid might be out of the Champions League tomorrow. The best teams in Spain now are Sevilla and Valencia. Madrid is in a transition phase, although only buying really old players, so it's going to take a lot of years for them to be back in track. Barcelona... not sure, maybe a lack of motivation this season after winning the CL last year and after the world cup fiasco for Ronaldinho and the rest of the team. Maybe we need to focus on the spanish league this year and start well in September.
 
 Good luck tomorrow with Lille, although you are almost there. Please beat Chelsea in the next round. And be aware of Valencia, strong team.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: bigyellow100 on March 07, 2007, 12:59:00 am
ha.  lyon choked so badly today.  congrats to liverpool, though they probably shouldve won that game.  
 
 allez le losc.  oh god i hope manchester loses.  please god.  i want to see them cry.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 07, 2007, 01:15:00 pm
While Liverpool clearly outplayed Barca in the first half, they didn't do a whole lot to help themselves out.  One goal would have made all the difference, but for the noninterested observer, it made the second half all the more exciting.  Yet, I must say their back four were as equally up to the task as at they were against United on Saturday.  They just need to learn to finish.  No matter who they draw, they will sorely miss Sisssoko for the first leg.  And Barca, I agree with others on here - they simply seem distracted.
 
 Helton's gaff was one of the worst I've seen in the Porto match and really turned the tide of the match.  Porto were believing up to that point, and then everyone knew it was a matter of time before Chelsea got the second goal.  Too bad - I think if he saves that Porto had a real chance.  I did love the sign about Mourinho and if he really wanted to win the Champions League he should return to Portugal.
 
 Valencia do scare me, although we didn't get that match here - would have loved to see what the fracas was about.  We had Roma-Lyon and, yep, Lyon did choke.  When Totti scored early, you could see the wind come out of their sails.  Wasn't even worth watching after that.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 07, 2007, 03:33:00 pm
Oh God....Fergie's at it again. Giggsy on the bench. Why does he do this to us? Just field your best team, get a couple of goals ahead then pull your top players off and hold on to the lead...he always has to do it the other way round.
 
 I'm not 100% confident....99%, but not 100%, because Lille are under no pressure and on a revenge mission because they feel cheated from the last game, even though they weren't.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2007, 11:21:00 am
....and another season with an empty trophy cabinet at Mecca stadium. HA HA HAHAHA, rough couple of weeks for the arseholes.
 
 Oh well, at least all the English teams made it to the last eight.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 08, 2007, 12:54:00 pm
Oy Mank.  I agree with your thoughts on the squad Fergie put out there.  I thought Slyvestre over Heinze was nearly as shocking as Giggs.  Rooney looked lost on the left and Ronaldo just as lost on the right.  Made no sense.  I did think O'Shea was unusually strong defensively, but was useless going forward (save for set pieces).  
 
 After watching Larsson for the last three weeks, I wasn't thinking his departure was going to be as bad as everybody says it is (recent injuries notwithstanding) because he opened with a bang, but has been quiet lately, but after seeing his run on the goal, it makes sense.  How many other strikers would have kept running and been too close to the net? I'm guessing every other United striker at least.  Nonetheless, we're into the last 8, and I'm looking forward to a Smith Rooney pairing up front soon in the FA Cup and Premiereship (two animals on the loose ball), but I'm not sure they will be what United needs to win in Europe.  Does Fergie ask Larsson to stay now with Saha out 4 weeks and Ole out 3?
 
 Arseholes, arseholes, arseholes....they did little to help their cause.  Good for PSV.  I've always been a fan.  That placed emptied out after Alex's (second) goal.  That was fun to watch.
 
 Real looked just as distracted as Barca did the night before, but that didn't stop the Bayern fans from enjoying themselves - what a crowd.  The early goal made the next 50 minutes tough to watch, but the last 15-20 were some really exciting football.  The penalty was a ridiculously bad call and made Ronaldo's booking in the United game look like a high school play compared to the academy award performance by Robinho.  I did enjoy the ref sending off Van Bommel and Dairra for being girls.  Only in Europe do you see something that pathetic... I also enjoyed the announcers noting after the game the symbolism between the old United player (Ruud) exchanging kits with the future United player (Hargreaves).  Hmmm....
 
 I didn't get the chance to watch the AC Milan-Celtic match yet, but I do feel for The Bhoys.  Valliant effort.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2007, 01:17:00 pm
I really couldn't give a toss about Celtic...there's no place for sectarianism in sports and that's what Scottish football is all about. If Celtic were in the premiership they'd be lower to mid-table anyway.
 
 Rooney definately looked lost on the left. He's at his best in the middle just behind the striker running head on at the defence. I thought Scholsey was our best player on the night. And what's with all this passing back to the goalie?? That was totally against United's usual style of play. I thought overall it was a disapointing display from United, but they're in the last eight and that's all that matters at the end of the day.
 
 I think Larson is going home to be with his family, which is fair enough.
 
 We should have three animals on the field on Saturday, Rooney, Smith and Heinze...put Ronaldo and Park on the wings and Boro won't be able to handle that speed. Why Heinze has been on the bench for so long is baffling anyway, he's probably the best back in the premiership, and puts the fear of God in any striker..BTW, I would've given Heinze the number 57, but that's just me.
 
 Well, we're still on for the treble and arseholes are on for NOT A BLOODY THING!!!   :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 09, 2007, 08:39:00 am
Quarter-final draw
 AC Milan v Bayern Munich
 PSV Eindhoven v LIVERPOOL
 Roma v MANCHESTER UNITED
 CHELSEA v Valencia
 
 (First legs to be played on 3/4 April and second legs on 10/11 April)
 
 Semi-final draw
 CHELSEA or Valencia v PSV Eindhoven or LIVERPOOL
 Roma or MANCHESTER UNITED v AC Milan or Bayern Munich
 
 (First legs to be played on 24/25 April and second legs on 1/2 May)
 
 Interesting draw.....PSV are the darkhorse imho. I'd like to see Rooney/Ronaldo/Smith to get some match time before the next round. Can you imagine being a back and having to look at Rooney and Smith coming at you???   :eek:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 09, 2007, 10:04:00 am
hopefully we'll get the roma match here   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 09, 2007, 02:21:00 pm
FA CUP QUARTERFINALS
 
 Saturday, March 10
 
 10:00am Man United vv Middlesbrough (PPV)
 
 Sunday, March 11
 
 9:00am Chelsea v Tottenham (PPV)
 12:00pm  Blackburn v Manchester City (FSC)  
 2:00pm Plymouth Argyle v Watford (FSC)    
 
 Reminder: Daylight Time starts this Sunday
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 09, 2007, 04:34:00 pm
United, Spurs, Blackburn and Watford to go through...what do you think?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 09, 2007, 05:22:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  United, Spurs, Blackburn and Watford to go through...what do you think?
Tottenham going through without Robbie Keane?  Bold statement.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 11, 2007, 11:54:00 am
DAMN THEM...DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!!!  :mad:  HOW CAN SPURS LET THE TWATS COME BACK FROM 3-1 DOWN....SCREW ENTERTAINMENT, I WOULD'VE PUT 11 PLAYERS BEHIND THE BALL AND SHUT UP SHOP...DAMN THEM...JUST DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!!!!  :mad:  
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 13, 2007, 12:04:00 pm
Wednesday, March 14
 
 4:00 Aston Villa v Arsenal (Setanta)  
 4:00 Man City v Chelsea (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on March 24, 2007, 09:56:00 am
i was planning on hitting a bar today to catch the euro qualifying matches until someone in my group found out:
 
 > Bad news: Lucky Bar (and all the other bars in the area that are
 > showing the games via Setanta Sports <- hated money-grabbing
 > broadcaster) are charging a $20 cover to see the England game and the
 > Ireland game. This is mandated by Setanta unfortunately - doesn't seem
 > to be a way out of it. Also, the bars' schedules do not include Greece
 > v Turkey! (which, given the Turkish support in our ranks, is clearly
 > unacceptable)
 >
 > I've exchanged voicemails with Lucky's owner to see if he might be
 > persuaded to change his mind for a large group. I also tried Summers,
 > Fado, Solly's and Duffy's in NW DC - all either have the cover or
 > aren't showing any football.
 
 so in the end we've pooled our money and bought a subscription to Setenta so we can watch it at a friend's place... what a  crock (http://www.luckybardc.com/soccer.asp).  $20?!?  for a soccer game?!?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on March 24, 2007, 10:19:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by sweetcell:
  i was planning on hitting a bar today to catch the euro qualifying matches until someone in my group found out:
 so in the end we've pooled our money and bought a subscription to Setenta so we can watch it at a friend's place... what a  crock (http://www.luckybardc.com/soccer.asp).  $20?!?  for a soccer game?!?
this unfortunately is SOP for most rugby and soccer internationals...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 24, 2007, 11:42:00 am
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but Setanta 'force' bars to charge a $20 cover to watch the game in the bar if said bar is using Setanta? Who gets the $20, and is that even legal?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on March 26, 2007, 12:45:00 am
yup, according to my friend who spoke with the owner/manager of lucky bar, the money does indeed all go to setenta... in fact they were threatening to send their own person to work the door and collect $$$.
 
 in honour of england's stellar performance against the power-house of international soccer that is israel:
 
  <img src="http://www.toilette-humor.com/images/funny_cat_problem.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 26, 2007, 08:38:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by sweetcell:
 
 in honour of england's stellar performance against the power-house of international soccer that is israel:
 
   <img src="http://www.toilette-humor.com/images/funny_cat_problem.jpg" alt=" - " />
It's England...what were you expecting? An England team to play up to it's full potential!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 26, 2007, 12:27:00 pm
who cares? fox soccer channel had ESTONIA vs RUSSIA
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 26, 2007, 01:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by sweetcell:
  yup, according to my friend who spoke with the owner/manager of lucky bar, the money does indeed all go to setenta... in fact they were threatening to send their own person to work the door and collect $$$.
They used to send their own person to Lucky Bar all the time.  After becoming a regular and not having to pay at the bar, when the Setanta guy was there, I'd have to go in the back door.
 
 Here's how it works: Setanta doesn't charge the bar for the games, they charge $20 a head and the bar makes money on the food and beverage service.
 
 But for $15 a month with D*TV, I now just have interested folks come to my place to watch the matches.  This week, however, England was PPV for $25, making the bar trip cheaper.   Fortunately, I know England are now crap and saved the $20, downloaded the match using Bit Torrent when it was over and was quite glad about my decision.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 26, 2007, 01:34:00 pm
So if I have Setanta at home and having some mates round to watch the match...how many can I have before the Setanta bloke comes round collecting $20 from everyone?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 26, 2007, 03:12:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  So if I have Setanta at home and having some mates round to watch the match...how many can I have before the Setanta bloke comes round collecting $20 from everyone?
No more than 5.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 29, 2007, 05:13:00 pm
Vice captain Rosicky earns £25,000 fineDale Johnson
 
 Arsenal star Tomas Rosicky and five of his Czech Republic team-mates landed the whole squad a £25,000 fine from the Czech FA after spending a night in a hotel with six prostitutes.
   
 It was revealed on Monday that the players had been fined after indulging in a wild party following the team's 2-1 defeat to Germany in a Euro 2008 qualifier. But the full extent of the revelry has only just emerged.
 
 A female Czech journalist broke the story after she had visited the hotel room herself as an autograph hunter. Players 'drank and hugged prostitutes' while she spoke to Jan Polak at the room door.
 
 Rosicky, along with Martin Jiranek, Tomas Ujfalusi, Polak and Marek Cech, managed to get the girls into their hotel by telling team officials that the girls were 'autograph hunters'. They also claimed they had been celebrating Ujfalusi's birthday.
 
 Rosicky apologised for his actions at a press conference. He said: 'We have been correctly punished. We are very sorry.' However, he said he had a 'clear conscience' when asked about the presence of the prostitutes.
 
 His girlfriend, Radka Kocurova, may have a few additional questions. She said: said: 'I have read what was in the papers. All I will say is no comment.' Ujfalusi, Cech and Polak are actually married.
 
 'Because the celebration was conducted in an inappropriate way, which does not fall in line with the behaviour of Czech Republic national team members, the whole team was punished by a one-million-crown fine,' the Czech FA said in a statement.
 
 Coach Karel Brueckner was quoted by news agency CTK as saying it was the worst disciplinary offence he had experienced and that it briefly made him consider resigning.
 
 Tabloid daily Sip reported on Monday that the six players had held a party in a room at the Praha hotel until at least 5.30am. The players, who will share the cost of the fine among the whole team, admitted having a late party.
 
 The Czechs lost 2-1 to Germany on Saturday after a weak performance that sparked wide criticism of the team and Brueckner.
 
 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=417390&cc=% (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=417390&cc=%)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 29, 2007, 05:21:00 pm
Saturday, Mar 31
 
 07:45 Liverpool v Arsenal (Setanta)  
 10:00 Fulham v Pompey (FSC)  
 10:00 Newcastle v Man City (SetantaX/Replay on SET at 5:15)  
 10:00 Man United v Blackburn (Setanta)
 12:00 Watford v Chelsea (FSC)
 2:15 West Ham v Boro (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, Apr 1
 
 11:00 Spurs v Reading (FSC)
 
 Mon, Apr 2
 
 3:00 Aston Villa v Everton (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 29, 2007, 07:41:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Vice captain Rosicky earns £25,000 fineDale Johnson
 
 Arsenal star Tomas Rosicky and five of his Czech Republic team-mates landed the whole squad a £25,000 fine from the Czech FA after spending a night in a hotel with six prostitutes.
   
 
Well that blows my theory....I guess Arseholes aren't a bunch of homo's after all.
 
 (no offense intended to gay guys, it's just a figure of speech)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 30, 2007, 09:57:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 10:00 Newcastle v Man City (SetantaX/Replay on SET at 5:15)  
 
see you all at the bar
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 30, 2007, 10:07:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 10:00 Newcastle v Man City (SetantaX/Replay on SET at 5:15)  
 
see you all at the bar [/b]
Be sure to take a good book with you...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 30, 2007, 01:03:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 10:00 Newcastle v Man City (SetantaX/Replay on SET at 5:15)  
 
see you all at the bar [/b]
You just gotta move out west - I'd watch that with you!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 30, 2007, 01:15:00 pm
well, i havent left the house to watch newcastle in awhile, should be interesting. i'd much rather watch it on a couch. it might make me feel less self concious about yelling at a tv
 
 i guess mankie only finds interest in american owned teams
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 30, 2007, 02:58:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 i guess mankie only finds interest in winning teams that play exciting attacking football, and that have actually won some silverware since WW2
True, very true!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 30, 2007, 04:21:00 pm
No more FSC FA Cup startin 08/09.
 
 Updated: March 30, 2007
 
 ITV and Setanta link-up lands £425m FA deal
 
 Football Association chief executive Brian Barwick has confirmed the television rights for England and FA Cup matches have been awarded to ITV and Setanta Sports starting in the 2008-09 season.
   
 The new deal comes after the FA's partners since 2001 BBC and Sky were outbid for the package, which takes effect from August next year and will run until July 2012.
 
 It will generate £425million for the FA over the four-year term - a 30% increase from the current £300million agreement with BBC and Sky.
 
 FA chief executive Brian Barwick said: 'We are delighted to have concluded a four-year deal with the two companies. It is a deal that starts from August 1 2008 and is worth in the region of £425million. It is an increase on our current deal of £125m and a 42% increase on that previous deal.
 
 'It means a £31m increase for the FA which gives us chance to invest in the game again in a bigger way
 
 'We will have in excess of £100m a year to put back into football.'
 
 Barwick added: 'It gives us the chance to extend the message of football as wide as possible and give everyone a chance to enjoy the game.
 
 'For viewers we have ensured key FA Cup and England games get free-to-air coverage. That was essential to us and we have delivered on it.
 
 'We have been able to extend coverage - we have asked both broadcasters to look at the amateur game and make sure there is coverage of that.
 
 'ITV are proven deliverers of good football products. They were there at the inception of the Champions League in 1992 and Setanta are new kids on the block.'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 30, 2007, 04:39:00 pm
goddamn it. really have to get the dish now
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 03, 2007, 02:46:00 pm
Today
 
 AC Milan - Bayern Munich  
 PSV Eindhoven - Liverpool
 
 Wednesday
 
 Chelsea - Valencia
 Roma - Manchester United
 
 Thought it was going to be difficult to follow it after the upset against Liverpool, but such a great competition that I am already looking forward to the games this week. I hope Mourinho is out of the Champions League in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on April 03, 2007, 05:28:00 pm
Liverpool 3 - PSV 0
 AC Milan 2 - Bayern Munich 2
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 03, 2007, 05:35:00 pm
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Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
  Liverpool 3 - PSV 0
 AC Milan 2 - Bayern Munich 2
Looks like scum are through to the semis. In all fairness they're probably the team to beat.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 04, 2007, 02:41:00 am
The penalty awarded to Milan only further confirms that Italian squads buy off the refs.  the most blatantly bad call I've seen in the Champions League.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 04, 2007, 07:24:00 am
I don't doubt it still goes on in Italy...that's why I'm concerned about the Roma draw. The irony of it all though is the world's greatest and only totally un-biased ref is Italian.
 
  <img src="http://www.thefa.com/NR/rdonlyres/7ECCA8C6-ACBE-4533-B46F-B5188C8E0A65/0/Collina_med.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 04, 2007, 09:11:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  The penalty awarded to Milan only further confirms that Italian squads buy off the refs.  the most blatantly bad call I've seen in the Champions League.
wasn't there a clear penalty to Kaka in the first half that the referee didn't see and a goal anulled for an offisde that didn't exist, also for Milan? That's what I recall from seeing a summary of the game last night. I think the referee's mistakes ended up helping more Bayern Munich than Milan.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 04, 2007, 12:47:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  wasn't there a clear penalty to Kaka in the first half that the referee didn't see and a goal anulled for an offisde that didn't exist, also for Milan?
A clear penalty?  I certainly don't think so.  If anything, there was slight touch, but nothing I would call clear.  Milan scored on the resulting corner kick anyway.
 
 I also thought the offside was close enough to call offsides.
 
 But my point is this, even if you screw up in the first half (which he didn't), you don't make something up in the 84th minute to make amends unless you're paid to do so.  You just don't.  Kaka didn't even think it was a penalty.  He was heading to the corner to take the corner kick before somebody told him that he was awarded a penalty!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 04, 2007, 02:51:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  wasn't there a clear penalty to Kaka in the first half that the referee didn't see and a goal anulled for an offisde that didn't exist, also for Milan?
A clear penalty?  I certainly don't think so.  If anything, there was slight touch, but nothing I would call clear.  Milan scored on the resulting corner kick anyway.
 
 I also thought the offside was close enough to call offsides.
 
 But my point is this, even if you screw up in the first half (which he didn't), you don't make something up in the 84th minute to make amends unless you're paid to do so.  You just don't.  Kaka didn't even think it was a penalty.  He was heading to the corner to take the corner kick before somebody told him that he was awarded a penalty! [/b]
You said that Italian teams buy referees. I think that if this was the case in this game, he wouldn't have doubted about the first penalty (it doesn't matter at all whether the goal came after that corner) and he would have awarded the offside goal and avoided the yellow card to the Milan player, whom I believe will miss the game in Germany (I think the same thing happened with Lucio in Bayern). I just saw the video in youtube and I have changed my mind, the referee didn't help either team, the offside goal was good, if he had been bought by the Italians, the score would have been 2-0 in the early second half.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRgwsycOJ4k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRgwsycOJ4k)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on April 04, 2007, 04:58:00 pm
Chelsea 1 - Valencia 1
 Roma 2 - ManU 1
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 05, 2007, 07:12:00 am
Evidently the ref was totally biased in Roma's favor...although Scholsey's sending off was legit. I didn't see the game but a scouse mate did and told me this....and a scouse would not make excuses for United I can guarantee you. 2-1 down and a second leg at O.T. I would've taken that before the game so quite happy with the result. An away goal was vital.
 
 I pity the Roma fans on the return leg when my Salford boys get hold of them. Actually, that's not true, I hope they get a good old mancunian welcome!   ;)  Do they not realize it's Man Utd they're fucking with???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on April 05, 2007, 07:33:00 am
Eric Wynalda Interview (http://www.fulhamusa.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=498&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 05, 2007, 10:46:00 am
clearly the only reason manusa would EVER lose is because of paid off refs
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 05, 2007, 11:00:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  clearly the only reason manusa would EVER lose is because of paid off refs
Obviously you're an ignorant knobhead when it comes to the beautiful game...if a person from LIVERPOOL is saying the ref was biased against MANCHESTER united, then there must be a strong case for it. Not to mention it was already proved that Italian football is corrupt from top to bottom.
 
 Nobody said he was paid off, just biased.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 05, 2007, 11:11:00 am
both manure fans on this board gave the 'refs are biased/paid off toward italy' before the match was even paid, and you didnt even watch it yourself. you took the readymade excuse because a liverpool fan told you it was so. cmon now
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 05, 2007, 11:23:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  both manure fans on this board gave the 'refs are biased/paid off toward italy' before the match was even paid, and you didnt even watch it yourself. you took the readymade excuse because a liverpool fan told you it was so. cmon now
Actually, I was talking about the ref in the Bayern match, not the Man U match, and I said it mostly out of the horrible call in the 84th minute.  I'm always suspect about blatantly bad calls late in the match.
 
 I certainly didn't think the ref in the Roma match was paid off, but I certainly didn't think he did a fair job either, especially in the first 30 minutes or so.  I for one, was actually pleased when Scholesy was sent off, because he was the last person on United's squad (as usual)to realize the ref was calling United much tighter than Roma, and was consistently giving away free kicks inside 25 yards.  I figured a 0-0 draw was better than 3-0 Roma on free kicks.  Such a pleasure to get that away goal with 10 men!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 05, 2007, 11:39:00 am
i dont like blaming refs for losses in any sport. but i'm not going to feel sorry for a side that's going to win the prem, is still in the fa cup and the cl and has lost twice in 3 months. mank makes fun of me anytime i bring up my side, so of course i'm going to zong him when he complains about refs in a match he didnt even watch, not to mention that man u got a not-terrible result
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 05, 2007, 11:45:00 am
Hey...no worries....I give it and can sure as hell take it.  :)
 
 In all seriousness though, all English teams get a rough time in Europe from the refs, because we play, well, the man's version of the game. What is not even a foul in the premiership is a yellow card offense in Italy because you caused Totti's tailor made jersey to crease or something.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 05, 2007, 11:58:00 am
you'll get no argument on that from me
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 06, 2007, 12:36:00 pm
Friday, April 6
 
 12:10 Man City v Charlton (Setanta)
 2:30 Everton v Fulham (FSC)
 
 Saturday, April 7
 
 7:45 Chelsea v Spurs (Setanta)  
 10:00 SheffU v Newcastle (SetantaX)
 10:00 Arsenal v West Ham (Setanta)
 10:00 Reading v Liverpool (FSC)  
 12:15 Pompey v Man U (FSC)
 2:15 Wigan v Bolton (FSC)  
 
 Monday, April 9
 
 7:30 Watford v Portsmouth (Set)
 10:00 Newcastle United v Arsenal (Set)
 10:00 Fulham v Manchester City (FSC)
 12:00 Aston Villa v Wigan (FSC)  
 2:30 Bolton v Everton (Set)
 3:00 Charlton v Reading (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on April 06, 2007, 03:00:00 pm
Finally get to see a game with filled with great Americans on FSC in the Everton v. Fulham game.
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Post by: Venerable Bede on April 06, 2007, 04:41:00 pm
Kroenke buys stake in Arsenal
 
 By PAT GRAHAM, AP Sports Writer
 April 5, 2007
 
 AP - Apr 5, 3:31 pm EDT
 
 DENVER (AP) -- Colorado businessman Stan Kroenke bought a 9.99 percent stake in London's Arsenal soccer team from the British television network ITV.
 
 Kroenke, a real estate developer who owns the Denver Nuggets, the Colorado Avalanche and the Colorado Rapids of Major League Soccer, said Thursday that he also entered into "conditional arrangements" with ITV involving the sale of ITV's 50 percent share in Arsenal Broadband Limited.
 
 The total value of the deals would be approximately $128.1 million, Kroenke's company said in a statement.
 
 A spokesman for Kroenke Sports Enterprises wouldn't comment on whether Kroenke would attempt to buy Arsenal outright down the road.
 
 "It's always been our policy not to speculate on any investments," said Paul Andrews, executive vice president and chief marketing officer for Kroenke Sports. "We hold pretty tight to that policy."
 
 Kroenke Sports announced in February it had formed a marketing alliance with the Arsenal club to exchange business, commercial and marketing information, and share coaching and training philosophies.
 
 "We really have a tremendous amount of respect for Arsenal and the way they manage their team," Andrews said.
 
 Andrews said the marketing alliance led to Kroenke's interest in Arsenal.
 
 "It's fair to say he was impressed with them and made this investment due to the respect he gained in that process," Andrews said.
 
 Andrews wouldn't comment on whether the Rapids planned to change their name to Arsenal.
 
 When the marketing alliance was announced, Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger insisted it did not mean Kroenke was buying the London team.
 
 "(The deal) is not for a takeover," Wenger said in February. "There are enough Americans in the league now."
 
 Kroenke, who is also a co-owner of the St. Louis Rams, is the latest American businessman to invest in a European soccer team.
 
 Tom Hicks and George Gillette Jr. recently completed their takeover of the Liverpool soccer team. Hicks owns baseball's Texas Rangers and the NHL's Dallas Stars, and Gillette owns the NHL's Montreal Canadiens.
 
 Tampa Bay Buccaneers owner Malcolm Glazer controls Manchester United, and Cleveland Browns owner Randy Lerner took over Aston Villa this season.
 
 The Rapids will open the MLS season Saturday against D.C. United in Dick's Sporting Goods Park, a new 18,000-seat soccer complex in the Denver area that includes 24 lighted fields and is one of the largest soccer parks in the world.
 
 Updated on Thursday, Apr 5, 2007 6:18 pm EDT
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 09, 2007, 08:50:00 am
With their stadium sponsored by a known sporting goods store why don't they call themselves the "Denver Dicks"
 
 Why do I hate it when they refer to teams such as "the liverpool soccer team" or 'London's arsenal soccer team", but it's intersting Manchester United need no description.  :)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2007, 01:17:00 pm
Tuesday, Apr 10
 
 2:30 Man United v Roma (ESPN2)
 5:00 Valencia v Chelsea (ESPN Classic - Delayed)
 
 Wednesday, Apr 11
 
 2:30 Bayern Munich v AC Milan (ESPN2)
 5:00 Liverpool v PSV (ESPN Classic - Delayed)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2007, 01:39:00 pm
Fans clash with police at Man Utd  
 
 Police quickly calmed the situation
 Police and Roma supporters have been involved in a minor scuffle outside Old Trafford ahead of the Champions League match against Manchester United.
 
 "There are lots of security personnel and extra police cars and vans around the stadium," he said.
 
 "It has been classified as a Category C match which is the highest alert there is for a match at Old Trafford. It is on a par with a home match against Liverpool."
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6538695.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6538695.stm)
 
 I'm sure uefa will find a way to blame the English team even though the united fans are still in the pub.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2007, 02:18:00 pm
Anybody see the full text of the interview with Eric Wynalda that got him a 2 week suspension?
 
 Awesome.
 
 Part One (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=510888)
 
 Part Two (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511336)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2007, 02:26:00 pm
WOW! Smudger starts is first match in 15 months...a big game to get a start but if anyone has passion it's Alan Smith. Smith and Rooney up front is enough to make any defense nervous.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2007, 03:12:00 pm
3-0 3-0 Only 20 minutes gone, and here's me at work. I hope some kind soul on this board is recording it on dvd and will take pity on poor old mank stuck here in 'rainy'...yes 'rainy' west palm beach!! I'll pay for postage.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 10, 2007, 03:22:00 pm
And Mourinho is losing!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2007, 03:40:00 pm
A good day all round really. 4-0 up at halftime and Morono 45 minutes away from elimination.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 10, 2007, 03:41:00 pm
wow, just wow
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 10, 2007, 03:43:00 pm
haha, i just checked the score and came right here
 
 i blame the refs  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2007, 03:44:00 pm
Surprising what happens with an impartial ref!
 
 I've got live text going on three different websites and the ref has not been mentioned once on any of them.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 10, 2007, 04:07:00 pm
6-0
 
 some are already calling it the best performance ever by a british club in europe.....not that pool fans would ever agree with that
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Post by: brennser on April 10, 2007, 04:35:00 pm
god I hate chelski
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2007, 05:11:00 pm
Finished 7-1.  Truly remarkable.
 
 As good as I've seen United in years.  Darren Fletcher was as good as I've ever seen him, reminiscent of, dare I say it, Roy Keane in the holding midfield position.  Fletcher and Smith never stopped chasing the ball...
 
 Whether you got in a fight or night, if you support Roma and were in Manchester today, you left with a sore head and a sick stomach.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2007, 05:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  3-0 3-0 Only 20 minutes gone, and here's me at work. I hope some kind soul on this board is recording it on dvd and will take pity on poor old mank stuck here in 'rainy'...yes 'rainy' west palm beach!! I'll pay for postage.
Gladly Sir!  I might even spare you the Tommy Smyth and Derek Rae commentary and get you the English broadcast.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2007, 07:08:00 pm
Another plus is the Salford lads won't have to seek revenge on the Italians because they'll be emotionally kicked to hell after suffering through that bloodbath.
 
 I can't believe chelski score with literally the last kick of the game yet again. I really think they'll come unstuck against Liverscum though. United V Liverscum in Athens, as long as United don't look past Bayern Munich because that's a tough contest.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2007, 07:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  as long as United don't look past Bayern Munich because that's a tough contest.
It will be Owen Hargreaves auditioning for United the way Becks auditioned for Real Madrid a few years ago....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2007, 07:48:00 pm
<img src="http://msn.foxsports.com/id/6666416_7_1.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 11, 2007, 04:38:00 pm
I am going for a Liverpool - Manchester United final. Don't like italian teams (especially the two from Milan) and I continue to dislike Mourinho. It is too tough not to see one's team in these stages of the Champions League.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 14, 2007, 02:53:00 pm
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42802000/jpg/_42802099_aa4.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO WEMBLEY,
 WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED....
 WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO WEMBLEY,
 WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED.....
 JUST LIKE A TREE THAT'S STANDING BY THE WATERSIDE....
 WE'E'E'E SHALL NOT BE MOVED!!!!.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 14, 2007, 03:43:00 pm
a good solid win after the nirvana of tuesday night - I am getting very concerned that the injuries are piling up, esp at the back with so many impt games coming up
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42802000/jpg/_42802099_aa4.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO WEMBLEY,
 WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED....
 WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO WEMBLEY,
 WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED.....
 JUST LIKE A TREE THAT'S STANDING BY THE WATERSIDE....
 WE'E'E'E SHALL NOT BE MOVED!!!!.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 16, 2007, 02:43:00 pm
Predictions for the FA Cup final?
 
 I'll go first
 
 3-1 United
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 16, 2007, 02:44:00 pm
I'll go with 2-1 United in extra time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 16, 2007, 03:18:00 pm
man u 2-1 ronaldo with the winner late, cements his player of the year claim
 any multiple goal game favors manchester
 
 oh and the mike owen dramady is going to get worse: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=422172&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=422172&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 16, 2007, 03:25:00 pm
I just can't see Owen at OT so didn't pay much attention when I first read that rumour.....that boy is more fragile than a lladro anyway.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 17, 2007, 12:12:00 pm
Tuesday, April 17
 
 3:00 Arsenal v Man City (FSC)  
 3:00 Man United v Sheffield United (Setanta)  
 
 Wednesday, April 18
 
 3:00 West Ham v Chelsea (Setanta)
 3:00 Liverpool v Middlesbrough (FSC)
 5:00 Blackburn v Watford (Setanta Delayed)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 18, 2007, 11:09:00 pm
Messi challenges Maradona (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEh2qPzVt-Q&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esport%2Ees%2Fdefault%2Easp%3Fidpublicacio%5FPK%3D44%26idioma%3DCAS%26idnoticia%5FPK%3D398094%26idseccio%5FPK%3D803)
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Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2007, 11:57:00 am
I'm heading to the OC this weekend, so I'm going to post these early.  And to the Toonies, don't let me down - I have faith in you!
 
 Saturday, Apr 21
 
 7:45 Spurs v Arsenal (Setanta)  
 10:00 Charlton v Sheffield United (FSC)
 10:00 Liverpool v Wigan (SetantaX)  
 12:00 Man United v Middlesboro (FSC)
 2:15 Bolton v Reading (FSC)  
 6:15 West Ham v Everton (Setanta)  
 
 Sunday, April 22
 
 08:30 Newcastle v Chelsea (Setanta)  
 11:00 Aston Villa v Pompey (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 19, 2007, 12:20:00 pm
newcastle has played them tough a couple of times this year but the recent form has been sad for us. i think the toon's only on fsc once more all season    :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 20, 2007, 02:35:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe4teUFUmNg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe4teUFUmNg)
 
 this link is now working. Lots of debate whether this goal might be better than Maradona's in 1986 against England.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on April 20, 2007, 05:38:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe4teUFUmNg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe4teUFUmNg)
 
 this link is now working. Lots of debate whether this goal might be better than Maradona's in 1986 against England.
That was terrific!
 Though I'd love to hear the call in Spanish.
 Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllll!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on April 20, 2007, 05:48:00 pm
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Lots of debate whether this goal might be better than Maradona's in 1986 against England.
First, Maradona's goal was against one of the best defense of the world at the time, and second, it was against England (remember the falklands-malvinas war).
 Even when Messi's goal is amazing, there's no comparison between Getafe and England...
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 20, 2007, 07:19:00 pm
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Originally posted by lagos:
   
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Lots of debate whether this goal might be better than Maradona's in 1986 against England.
First, Maradona's goal was against one of the best defense of the world at the time, and second, it was against England (remember the falklands-malvinas war).
 Even when Messi's goal is amazing, there's no comparison between Getafe and England... [/b]
Don't forget he scored with his hand!!!!  :mad:  
 
 Or are you thinking about that other one that a whole nations seems to survive off, especially after we totally kicked their arses in what they called a war but we considered a minor scuffle.
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Post by: lagas on April 20, 2007, 10:00:00 pm
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Or are you thinking about that other one that a whole nations seems to survive off, especially after we totally kicked their arses in what they called a war but we considered a minor scuffle.  
I dont care about the outcome of the malvinas war, maradona's goal against England in 1986 was and is beautiful, you cant deny that...if you find pride because England won the minor scuffle, good for you...
 Tha fact is that a lot of people is comparing that goal with Messi's goal, which is also pretty much incredible and they both look alike..but they cant be compared, I mean come on, Peter Shilton, pretty much the best goalkeeper at the time, and you cant deny that Argentina won that 1986 World Cup. thats also a historic fact.
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Post by: brennser on April 22, 2007, 01:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  And to the Toonies, don't let me down - I have faith in you!
 
All hail the Toonies!!!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 23, 2007, 09:40:00 am
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Originally posted by lagos:
   
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Or are you thinking about that other one that a whole nations seems to survive off, especially after we totally kicked their arses in what they called a war but we considered a minor scuffle.  
I dont care about the outcome of the malvinas war, maradona's goal against England in 1986 was and is beautiful, you cant deny that...if you find pride because England won the minor scuffle, good for you...
 Tha fact is that a lot of people is comparing that goal with Messi's goal, which is also pretty much incredible and they both look alike..but they cant be compared, I mean come on, Peter Shilton, pretty much the best goalkeeper at the time, and you cant deny that Argentina won that 1986 World Cup. thats also a historic fact. [/b]
That was 1986....it's now 2007, find something else to live off or doesn't that shithole of a country have anything other than some fat, alcoholic drugged up has-been who's on his death bead in a nuthouse?
 
 Maybe you should go support Brasil like the rest of S. America.
 
 As for the toon army "howay the lads!!!
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Post by: lagas on April 23, 2007, 01:51:00 pm
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Maybe you should go support Brasil like the rest of S. America.
and who should you support then?, Italy, France?, when was the last time that England won a World Cup?, oh wait, that was TWO decades before 1986...
 
 I dont care about Maradona, and I agree that his current condition is pathetic, but he was one of the best soccer players, if not the best, of the world...its true that the guy has been getting high since then, but his left leg was magical, and if that bothers you, well, get over it...
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Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2007, 04:00:00 pm
I like them both, but I'm partial to this one, given the 90th minute of a Final against Arsenal.  And he wasn't coked up at the time.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgHi3D7OjNs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgHi3D7OjNs)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2007, 04:22:00 pm
just really hairy?
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Post by: brennser on April 23, 2007, 04:36:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  I like them both, but I'm partial to this one, given the 90th minute of a Final against Arsenal.  And he wasn't coked up at the time.
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgHi3D7OjNs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgHi3D7OjNs)
I don't think  it was the final - more like a quarter final reply or something like that - doesn't take away from the brilliance of the goal though
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Post by: lagas on April 23, 2007, 04:42:00 pm
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I like them both, but I'm partial to this one, given the 90th minute of a Final against Arsenal. And he wasn't coked up at the time.
well, we can find great goals everywhere...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEOFxq2vbiw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEOFxq2vbiw)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgqsaDnsEq8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgqsaDnsEq8)
 
 I personally like the spectacular ones...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O2nEZAb_Mk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O2nEZAb_Mk)
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Post by: brennser on April 23, 2007, 04:47:00 pm
did someone say spectacular?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sca7Zbsh_U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sca7Zbsh_U)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2007, 05:15:00 pm
I haven't felt that good since Archie Gemmill scored against Holland in 1978!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 23, 2007, 06:00:00 pm
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Originally posted by lagos:
   
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Maybe you should go support Brasil like the rest of S. America.
and who should you support then?, Italy, France?, when was the last time that England won a World Cup?, oh wait, that was TWO decades before 1986...
 
 I dont care about Maradona, and I agree that his current condition is pathetic, but he was one of the best soccer players, if not the best, of the world...its true that the guy has been getting high since then, but his left leg was magical, and if that bothers you, well, get over it... [/b]
Actually, his left hand was better than his left foot!
 
 I'm sorry...just were did I mention 1966?
 
 England are notorious under-achievers, and if you've seen any of my previous comments on the subject you'll find that I am consistent with that point of view of my national team. On paper England should've walked the last world cup, but if you field a team with players out of position at that level it is a sure way of failure. The manager was the weakest link, and who do they put in to replace him???? His bloody assistant for crying out loud!!!! Look how they're struggling to even qualify for Euro with that chump at the helm?
 
 Argentina, player for player, are superior to Brasil (imho) but the difference is Brasil play as a team and Argentina play as 11 individuals. Apart from that spectacular goal, which I consider the best goal of the competition...don't remember who it was against but it was a cracker, about 7 different players involved before a sweet, sweet finish. Apart from that moment of inspiration Argentina were very disapointing.
 
 I have a dislike for Argentina because, well, I'm English. I'm sure you have a dislike for England because it seems you are either Argentine, or a supporter of Argentina, and that's fine.....but I still love to talk football and will speak my mind and what I believe is the truth regardless of loyalties.....except for the scumbags Liverpool....tossers Arsenal....and complete and utter wankers Chelski!!!    :D
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Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2007, 06:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
  I don't think  it was the final - more like a quarter final reply or something like that - doesn't take away from the brilliance of the goal though
You are correct, sir.
 
 Manchester United 2-1 Arsenal
 The FA Cup, Semi-Final Replay
 Aston Villa FC, Villa Park
 14 April 1999

 
 Manchester United achieved an unprecedented "Treble" in 1999 but were living dangerously towards the end of their FA Cup Semi-Final replay with Arsenal at Villa Park.
 
 The first match, also at Villa, had failed to produce a result - or a goal - in two hours of football.
 
 Three days later David Beckham broke the deadlock with a United opener on 17 minutes, which Arsenal??s Dutch master Dennis Bergkamp cancelled out midway through the second half.
 
 In a pulsating last few minutes of normal time United battled to hold on after Roy Keane??s dismissal. Right at the death Arsenal were awarded a spot-kick but Peter Schmeichel dived full-length to his left to beat away Bergkamp??s shot.
 
 Then, as if we hadn??t seen enough drama already, Ryan Giggs scored an extra-time winner of breathtaking brilliance. The Welsh winger drove a left-footer past Seaman after a mazy run that had begun near the halfway line.
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Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2007, 06:43:00 pm
I prefer goals of skill and timing.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnXuZiRixpQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnXuZiRixpQ)
 
 Where were you when Ole Gunnar won Europe for Manchester United?
 
 I was at the Rock in DC, across the street from the then MCI Arena.  My first born will be named Ole Gunnar (yes, I have a lot of work to do on Smackette for that one!).
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 23, 2007, 06:59:00 pm
I was at work at Heishman Porsche...now Porsche of Arlington. I had the game on internet radio and hadn't finished celebrating Teddy's equalizer when Ole scored the winner.....I thought the commentators where still talking about Teddy's goal until I the final whistle blew and realized it was all over and United had actually won!!!!!
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Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2007, 12:01:00 pm
Champions League Semi's - First Leg
 
 Tuesday, April 24
 
 2:45 Man United v AC Milan (ESPN2)
 
 Wednesday, April 25
 
 2:45 Chelsea v Liverpool (ESPN2)
 
 I didn't sleep last night when I realized that United's back four was likely to consist of Fletcher, O'Shea, Brown, and Heinze.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2007, 01:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Champions League Semi's - First Leg
 
 Tuesday, April 24
 
 2:45 Man United v AC Milan (ESPN2)
 
 Wednesday, April 25
 
 2:45 Chelsea v Liverpool (ESPN2)
 
 I didn't sleep last night when I realized that United's back four was likely to consist of Fletcher, O'Shea, Brown, and Heinze.
...and here's me working yet again!!!   :mad:  
 
 United should be okay. If they can shut down Kaka from by tightening up the midfield with the back four (basically as though they were playing away from home) and get Rooney, Ronaldo and Giggs on the counter attack it's all good.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 24, 2007, 01:57:00 pm
dammit, i forgot to set the dvr
 
 could there be a more boring semi than chelski/doodlepool? no fun to watch, already play at least twice a year. yawner
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2007, 02:05:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  dammit, i forgot to set the dvr
 
 could there be a more boring semi than chelski/doodlepool? no fun to watch, already play at least twice a year. yawner
If Crouch if playing he's always entertaining, the gangly git.
 
 Apart from that it's a contest between two efficient teams who bore you to death. If you got points for entertainment value as well as winning Chelski would be mid-table and Reading would be pushing United for the title.
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Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2007, 02:17:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  dammit, i forgot to set the dvr
 
 
Sorry, I meant to post yesterday.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2007, 02:57:00 pm
HERE WE GO!! HERE WE GO!!! HERE WE GO!!! 1-0 1-0 1-0  :D    :D    :D
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Post by: bigyellow100 on April 24, 2007, 03:26:00 pm
kaka is freaking amazing.
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Post by: Barcelona on April 24, 2007, 03:27:00 pm
Not able to see the game, but the 7-1 might end up doing more harm than good.
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Post by: Barcelona on April 24, 2007, 04:38:00 pm
I guess I could have been wrong, this leg is still wide open and Manchester United were able to win the game after losing in half time, not an easy thing to accomplish against a team like Milan.
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Post by: bigyellow100 on April 24, 2007, 04:40:00 pm
wow.  im pretty pissed off.
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Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2007, 05:13:00 pm
Unreal.  Two completely different halves from both back fours.  Milan took the foot off the pedal after going up 1-2 and Rooney made them pay.  Shockingly, this series is not over!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2007, 05:46:00 pm
A draw in Milan is well within United's capabilities. If it was easy at this stage of the competition Arseholes would still be in it.   ;)
 
 Don't forget football psych 101 now comes into effect. Milan will be down knowing that they gave up a lead away from home, and United will be full of confidence knowing they came back to win with 6 of their starting players out. Advantage United.
 
 Doesn't anyone remember United v Juventus and Roy Keanes stroke of genius when he basically beat them alone in the second half in Italy?????
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 25, 2007, 09:19:00 am
Predictions for tonights match????
 
 Prima Donnas 1 scum 2
 
 BTW...did anyone hear morono's ranting about how there's one rule for United and one for them when it comes to penalties....wah wah wah....bbc.co.uk printed the penalty stats for the season. They've been awarded more and conceded less than United.  NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU WHINGING WANKER
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 25, 2007, 09:27:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 Prima Donnas 1 scum 2
 
wait, which one's which?
 
 this will be the 14th meeting in the past 3 years between the two teams.   :eek:
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Post by: brennser on April 25, 2007, 09:27:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Predictions for tonights match????
 
 Prima Donnas 1 scum 2
 
 BTW...did anyone hear morono's ranting about how there's one rule for United and one for them when it comes to penalties....wah wah wah....bbc.co.uk printed the penalty stats for the season. They've been awarded more and conceded less than United.  NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU WHINGING WANKER
I hope Pool beat Chelski, one of the very few occassions I'll ever cheer for them. I watched the second half of yesterdays game live and thought we did great - by the end we  were dominating them and could have had a few more.
 
 Mankie - do you have a link to those penalty stats? I'd like to shove them down some peoples throats....
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Post by: Barcelona on April 25, 2007, 09:42:00 am
Liverpool!!!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 25, 2007, 09:59:00 am
<img src="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6581809.stm" alt=" - " />
 
 I was wrong on penalties awarded.....but still, chelski have +2 and united +1 so he can still shut the fuck up.
 
 for the record
 
 Prima donnas = chelski
 Scum = Liverpool
 (I thought that was obvious)
 
 *edit*
 The image won't copy so here's a link to the complete story.
 
     http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6581809.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6581809.stm)  
 
 BTW United fans, isn't it refreshing for our beloved red devils to not be the most hated team in England anymore?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 25, 2007, 10:10:00 am
BTW...RIP Alan Ball, aged 61. Youngest player of the 1966 world cup winning England team
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/6590715.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/6590715.stm)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 25, 2007, 10:28:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 
 
 for the record
 
 Prima donnas = chelski
 Scum = Liverpool
 (I thought that was obvious)
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6581809.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6581809.stm)  
 
 
oh, i was kidding
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Post by: Barcelona on April 25, 2007, 12:24:00 pm
Most hated two teams in the world? Chelsea and Real Madrid. Chelsea because of Mourinho and his arrogance, provocative comments, indirect threats to referees, players.... Real Madrid, they only win Champions Leagues under far-right dictatorships or when friends from the conservative party govern in Spain.
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Post by: vansmack on April 25, 2007, 03:34:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 Doesn't anyone remember United v Juventus and Roy Keanes stroke of genius when he basically beat them alone in the second half in Italy?????
When it was 2-2 and looking like it was going back to Milan that way, that was the first thing I thought of.  About 10 minutes later Tommy and Derek started talking about "Roy Keane's greatest performance ever."
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 25, 2007, 05:19:00 pm
1-0 money bags. I still think scum will go through because they will score more than 1 at anfield, and chelski can't score more than 1 at home so how are they ever going to score away? Not only that, chelski have quite a few players on a yellow so will have to be really careful if they want to play the final should they go through......oh, the drama!
 
 Nice attendance though, I think they got just slightly more than half of United's attendance last night.    ;)
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Post by: vansmack on April 26, 2007, 12:16:00 pm
I fell asleep twice watching that match last night.  
 
 And I'll tell you one more thing - if Drogba goes to the sidelines one more time like he's dead or dying and trots back on the pitch like nothing happened, I'll give United the money to sign Keane for one game to make sure he knows what pain is really like.  I can't remember the last time I watched a Chelski match and Drogba went to ground rolling in agony, was carted off, and came back on running faster than ever.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 26, 2007, 01:18:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  And I'll tell you one more thing - if Drogba goes to the sidelines one more time like he's dead or dying and trots back on the pitch like nothing happened, I'll give United the money to sign Keane for one game to make sure he knows what pain is really like.  I can't remember the last time I watched a Chelski match and Drogba went to ground rolling in agony, was carted off, and came back on running faster than ever.
That's what flooding the premiership with foriegners will do to the game. On the continent it's considered quite an artform, but is killing the English game. That's why English teams with English players (NOT ARSEHOLES) have such a hard time at away games in Europe.....a good tackle in England is a yellow card offense in Spain or Italy so the English teams have to wuss it up.  Morono and his bellyaching over the lack of penalties is a prime example....if you tackle someone in the box and they happen to go down it's not an automatic penaly, although it is in Europe evidently.
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Post by: vansmack on April 27, 2007, 01:12:00 pm
Saturday, Apr 28
 
 7:45 Chelsea v Bolton (FSC)  
 7:45 Everton v Man Utd (Setanta)
 10:00 Middlesboro v Spurs (FSC)  
 10:00 Wigan v West Ham (SetantaX)
 10:00 Pompey v Liverpool (Setanta)
 2:30 Blackburn v Charlton (FSC)
   
 Sunday, Apr 29
 
 11:00 Arsenal v Fulham (FSC)
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 28, 2007, 09:54:00 am
Well, the chubby chick is clearing her throat!!   :D
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Post by: brennser on April 28, 2007, 10:55:00 am
yup, we can almosty taste it!! what a morning, what a comeback?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 28, 2007, 11:37:00 am
My best mate from DC is down here visiting us with his family this weekend.....YEP!~!! he's a scouser, a BLUE scouser!  :D
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 28, 2007, 12:13:00 pm
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42859000/jpg/_42859795_jose270.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
   <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42859000/jpg/_42859971_ferg_fans416.jpg" alt=" - " />
  <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42859000/jpg/_42859827_rooney_celeb416.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Post by: vansmack on April 28, 2007, 01:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  My best mate from DC is down here visiting us with his family this weekend.....YEP!~!! he's a scouser, a BLUE scouser!   :D  
Must be a painful morning for him!
 
 Smackette left the house after the second goal because I wouldn't sit down.  I hope she comes back...with a Trophy!!!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 28, 2007, 04:45:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  My best mate from DC is down here visiting us with his family this weekend.....YEP!~!! he's a scouser, a BLUE scouser!    :D  
Must be a painful morning for him!
 
 Smackette left the house after the second goal because I wouldn't sit down.  I hope she comes back...with a Trophy!!! [/b]
I thought she was your trophy!  ;)
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Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2007, 01:03:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  I thought she was your trophy!   ;)  
Too true.  But she's so accomplished it's more likely the other way around, if not now, very soon.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2007, 01:55:00 pm
so, it looks like mike owen is going to play today....
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Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2007, 03:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so, it looks like mike owen is going to play today....
Started too.  I thought for sure he'd be a 60 minute sub to let him run for 30 minutes or so...
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Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2007, 03:40:00 pm
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE SEMIFINALS - SECOND LEG
 
 Tuesday, May 1
 
 2:30 Liverpool v Chelsea ESPN2 (Chelsea leads 1-0)
 
 
 Wednesday, May 2
 
 2:30 AC Milan v Man United ESPN2 (Man U leads 3-2)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2007, 03:44:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so, it looks like mike owen is going to play today....
Started too.  I thought for sure he'd be a 60 minute sub to let him run for 30 minutes or so... [/b]
roeder doesnt believe in bringing injured players on as subs. warm up better prematch or something
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 30, 2007, 04:30:00 pm
I'm sorry, but can we please call  him by his name, Michael Owen.....nobody calls him 'Mike'other than the folk on this board.....petty I know, but it's driving me up the wall.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2007, 04:32:00 pm
i think i'm the only one that calls him mike
 
 once he plays regularly, he can be known by his proper name
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2007, 04:36:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  I'm sorry, but can we please call  him by his name, Michael Owen.....
I would have thought that Owens would have been worse for you.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 30, 2007, 05:33:00 pm
I put the s down to a simple typo so let that go.
 
 Do you think Big Sam Allardyce will be at Newcastle or Shitty next season?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2007, 10:02:00 pm
its hard to argue he's not a better manager than what we have
 
 but man is bolton ugly
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 01, 2007, 10:14:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 
 but man is bolton ugly
But effective!
 
 May the Lord of mercy on my soul for what I am about to say, but.........
 
 "Come on the 'Pool'!!!!!!"
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 01, 2007, 11:50:00 am
not just effective, but players seem to play hard for him, which i cant say about glenn. expecially the vets
 
 i just want to see attacking football
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Post by: vansmack on May 01, 2007, 11:50:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Do you think Big Sam Allardyce will be at Newcastle or Shitty next season?
Shitty.
 
 And Liverpool in regular time is my prediction.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 01, 2007, 02:16:00 pm
I think Chelski would be an easier game if United make it past Milan, but I think a United v Liverpool final would be one for the history books. Plus, Morono is a twat!!
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Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on May 01, 2007, 05:28:00 pm
Congratulations to Liverpool
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 01, 2007, 05:35:00 pm
Don't you just hate penalties though? Such an anti-climax to an all important game.
 
 Still glad chelski are OUT Can't wait to hear what morono will blame it on this time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 01, 2007, 07:33:00 pm
He is a loser. He will never accept that other teams may be better than his own team. So glad to see them out of the Champions League.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6610157.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6610157.stm)
 
 Mourinho believes Blues were best  
 
 Manager Jose Mourinho felt Chelsea did not deserve their penalty shoot-out defeat against Liverpool in the Champions League semi-final.
 
 The Londoners were beaten 4-1 on spot-kicks after Liverpool cancelled out Chelsea's 1-0 first-leg lead.
 
 "It is a moment when everybody has to be strong," he said. "My players have a lot of reasons to be proud.
 
 "We were the best team today, even against a team only playing for the Champions League."
 
 He added: "In extra-time we were the only team who tried to win, but football is like that and the penalty shoot-out is part of the game.
 
 "My players did a great run in the Champions League."
 
 Mourinho also denied that his pre-match spat with Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez helped inspire Liverpool to victory.
 
 He added: "I respected Liverpool always in my words. I don't need to say more and today I think the best team was Chelsea."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 02, 2007, 06:37:00 am
I'm just wondering.....why was he belly-aching about chelski never getting penalties when his shower of chumps don't even know how to take them???  yuk, yuk, yuk!  :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 02, 2007, 03:14:00 pm
The conditions in Milan are horrendous.  Massive downpour.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 02, 2007, 03:48:00 pm
GREAT NEWS EVERYONE....It's half time and the United team bus has just pulled in the San Siro car park. We might have a game in the second half!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 02, 2007, 04:39:00 pm
Well, the better team won and they didn't have to pay the ref off for this one....pretty ironic to say they shouldn't even be in the competition with all the corruption they're guilty of.
 
 I hope they destroy scum like they just destroyed United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 02, 2007, 05:24:00 pm
Vidic (clearly not match fit) and Heinze looked like they hadn't played together years, and come to think of it, they might not have given their injury history.
 
 United's offensive struggles in Milan continue, but that shouldn't take away from what was a gloriuos performance by Kaka and Gattusso.  They deserve to go to Athens.
 
 Doesn't make me any happier about the outcome, but after watching yesterday's snoozer, it's hard to swallow.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 02, 2007, 07:37:00 pm
Very interesting Champions League. Milan played very badly at the beginning of the season and even had to go to extra time with Celtic in the last sixteen. Liverpool I believe had a bad moment during the season when they lost some games with Arsenal pretty badly.  But once both teams eliminated with some authority Barcelona and Bayern Munich, they showed that they are the strongest teams in Europe. I especially respect Liverpool, only Gerrard is considered among the best players of the world, but they somehow manage to be the most respected team in Europe.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 03, 2007, 09:24:00 am
Not intending to take anything away from Liverpool, but Gerrard is not one of the best players in the world....he's a good player on a team of average players so shines with Liverpool. When Gerrard is on the England squad he's merely an also-ran.
 
 Benitez is a class act and deserves all the credit for getting them to the final again.
 
 One of most annoying quotes from morono, and believe me there's many to choose from, is when he referred to Liverpool as a 'small team'...Liverpool are a huge team, and like United fill the stadium regardless of their success on the field, his own team are merely minnows and can't even fill their shanty-town shack of a stadium no matter what.
 
 I've gone from finding him amusing to wanting to ram my fist so far down his throat he'd shit my elbow.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on May 03, 2007, 01:35:00 pm
can you get more criminal than this?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntsj8C_V7Tw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntsj8C_V7Tw)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 03, 2007, 01:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Not intending to take anything away from Liverpool, but Gerrard is not one of the best players in the world....he's a good player on a team of average players so shines with Liverpool. When Gerrard is on the England squad he's merely an also-ran.
 
wow, you're lucky there arent any liverpool supporters here
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 05, 2007, 10:36:00 am
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42889000/jpg/_42889459_fergie_getty300.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 06, 2007, 03:24:00 pm
:D    :D    :D    :D  
 
 this one is the sweetest of the 9 for me!
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  MOU-RIN-I-HO are you listenin'
 you'd better keep that trophy glistening
 we'll be back in May, to take it away
 walkin' in a Fergie wonderland!!!!!
 
 6 points clear, +13 goal difference, not bad heading into the new year!!!    :D      :D      :D  
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 07, 2007, 09:54:00 am
I'll most certainly be watching the now meaningless game on Wednesday if only to see the guard of honour chelski will give the Premiership Champions when they run out on to the field at Stamford Bridge!!!!    :D      :D  
 
 Life is good, I am very confident of us winning the double.
 
 BTW....How about Roy Keane and his Black Cats miracle?....and another ex-United player winning automatic promotion with Birminghan?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 07, 2007, 11:02:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  BTW....How about Roy Keane and his Black Cats miracle?
Just getting warmed up to take over for Fergie when he's ready to step down...he was always a brilliant football mind, just had a bit of temper.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 07, 2007, 11:26:00 am
anyone want to revise the big sam to man shitty predictions
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 07, 2007, 12:55:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  BTW....How about Roy Keane and his Black Cats miracle?
Just getting warmed up to take over for Fergie when he's ready to step down...he was always a brilliant football mind, just had a bit of temper. [/b]
I have to agree with you.....5 years??
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 07, 2007, 12:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  anyone want to revise the big sam to man shitty predictions
I think if he went to the magpies they'd have to clean house of all those nancy-boys up there, because they just won't fit in with his 'thugball' style. Shitty already have a bunch of thugs in place. Newcastle would be a bigger draw with a man of his ego though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 07, 2007, 01:06:00 pm
i think the last point is the most important
 
 buzz makes it sound like its 80% certain that he's coming, though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 07, 2007, 01:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  BTW....How about Roy Keane and his Black Cats miracle?
Just getting warmed up to take over for Fergie when he's ready to step down...he was always a brilliant football mind, just had a bit of temper. [/b]
I have to agree with you.....5 years?? [/b]
I would say 3...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 07, 2007, 04:43:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
   
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
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Originally posted by vansmack:
     
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  BTW....How about Roy Keane and his Black Cats miracle?
Just getting warmed up to take over for Fergie when he's ready to step down...he was always a brilliant football mind, just had a bit of temper. [/b]
I have to agree with you.....5 years?? [/b]
I would say 3... [/b]
I don't think Fergie will be ready to retire in three. He's building a new dynasty at Old Trafford and will want to enjoy the fruits of his labor for a couple of years. Ideally, Keane could start as the assistant manager but I don't think those two could work together again, although Quinn and Keane figured it out so anythings possible.
 
 As for Newcastle, apart from Shearer I have great respect for the club and it's fans, and they deserve a great team. Other teams I consider 'big teams' are Wolves (without McCarthy of course) West Ham and Sunderland. Leeds can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Their *ahem* fans are a disgrace.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 07, 2007, 04:55:00 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/women/6632373.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/women/6632373.stm)
 
 Arsenal didn't end up trophyless after all.
 
   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 07, 2007, 04:57:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
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Originally posted by brennser:
   
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
     
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
     
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  BTW....How about Roy Keane and his Black Cats miracle?
Just getting warmed up to take over for Fergie when he's ready to step down...he was always a brilliant football mind, just had a bit of temper. [/b]
I have to agree with you.....5 years?? [/b]
I would say 3... [/b]
I don't think Fergie will be ready to retire in three. He's building a new dynasty at Old Trafford and will want to enjoy the fruits of his labor for a couple of years. Ideally, Keane could start as the assistant manager but I don't think those two could work together again, although Quinn and Keane figured it out so anythings possible.
 
 As for Newcastle, apart from Shearer I have great respect for the club and it's fans, and they deserve a great team. Other teams I consider 'big teams' are Wolves (without McCarthy of course) West Ham and Sunderland. Leeds can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Their *ahem* fans are a disgrace. [/b]
from the man himself......
 
 And while he confirmed he will not still be in charge by the time he reaches his 70th birthday, at 65 the Glaswegian still has the fire to fight a few more battles yet.
 
 'Age creeps up on you,' he smiled. 'I still think of myself as being in my 50s. All of a sudden you read in the paper you are 65 and think 'that can't be right'.
 
 'I don't see any dramatic changes in myself from five or six years ago, although there must be some.
 
 'I will not carry on until I am 70 but I have enjoyed this season.'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 08, 2007, 06:44:00 am
Oasis frontman and ardent Man City fan Noel Gallagher was left fuming when Primal Scream bassist and ardent Man Utd fan Mani phoned from a packed pub and got all the locals to sing 'champions, champions' down the line. (Daily Star)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 10, 2007, 03:26:00 pm
And on the last day.....
 
 Sunday, May 13
 
 10:00 Sheffield United v Wigan (SetantaX)  
 10:00 Man United v West Ham (FSC - Trophy presentation to follow)
 10:00 Pompey v Arsenal (Setanta)
 14:30 Chelsea v Everton (FSC)  
 
 Being a Wolves follower, I thought I'd throw this out there too:
 
 7:00am Coca-Cola Championship Play-Off Semi-Final
 Wolves v West Brom (Setanta)
 
 
 Wednesday, May 16
 
 UEFA Cup Final
 2:30 Espanyol v Sevilla  (FSC)
 
 2:30 Coca-Cola Championship Play-Off Semi-Final 2nd Leg
 Wolves v West Brom (Setanta)
 
 
 Saturday, May 19
 
 FA CUP FINAL
 10:00 Chelsea v Man United (PPV Only)
 
 
 Wednesday, May 23
 
 Champions League Final
 2:30 Liverpool v. AC Milan (ESPN2/HD)
 
 
 Monday, May 28
 
 2:30pm Coca-Cola Championship Play-Off Final
 Derby/Southampton v Wolves/West Brom
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 14, 2007, 06:48:00 am
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42919000/jpg/_42919889_ronaldo_pa.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 15, 2007, 08:37:00 am
sounds like sam's in, and nearly everyone else is out at the toon
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 15, 2007, 08:54:00 am
I wonder how the toon army fans will warm up to the long ball game?
 
 Prob won't give a toss as long as they start winning....answered my own question really didn't I?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 15, 2007, 11:01:00 am
you did
 
 not my first choice but heck even if we get better effort and less locker room strife, that's an improvement. sam should be able to sort that out
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 15, 2007, 01:55:00 pm
Rumour is Sparky Hughes is moving to shitty!!! I'd rather stay with Blackburn if I was him. What do you think?
 
 Did you see some Chinese consortium put in an offer for United for 850 million pounds and the Glazers told them to 'eff off?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 16, 2007, 08:37:00 am
well, blackburn has less cash, but shitty's money comes from pol pot
 
 toss up
 
 manusa fans just hate the glazers so much. didnt they attack his car the day they won the prem?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 17, 2007, 06:05:00 am
Great UEFA cup final between Spanish teams last night in Glasgow. Sad for the small team in Barcelona who lost it in the penalties. Great goal though in the 115th minute with one player less, no one expected it.
 
 I think that the Spanish league is the strongest one in Europe. Maybe England has the best four teams, but from the fifth to the last one, they tend to be really bad.
 
   <img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070516/i/r721381290.jpg?" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 18, 2007, 09:02:00 am
LONDON (AFP) - Police are hunting a blue-throated Amazon parrot called Chelsea who screeches when anyone mentions Manchester United, stolen from its owner's garden this week.
 
 
 The family pet, which is tame and able to tell people its name, was taken from a home in the English Midlands on Tuesday night, apparently after having been bundled into a towel stolen from the washing line.
 
 "I think it was stolen to order ... I don't think someone would just steal a parrot for a pet," its owner Richard Threadgold told AFP, confirming that the bird emits a "high-pitched screech" when Manchester United is mentioned.
 
 "We are avid Chelsea fans, that's how he got the name, and my son used to taunt it by saying 'Manchester United' at it every time he went past the cage," leading it to develop the unusual reaction, he said.
 
 The family bought the bird five years ago for 600 pounds, and is considering offering a reward if no progress is made in finding it within the next few days, he said.
 
 Police confirmed in a statement that the bird had been stolen sometime overnight Tuesday, adding that the family's car had also been broken into.
 
 Threadgold said he hopes Chelsea's football-related verbal quirk will help detectives identify the bird -- and dismissed any suggestion that the thieves stole it because of its team affiliation.
 
 "I don't think they would pinch our parrot just because of its banter," he said.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on May 18, 2007, 04:07:00 pm
New Wembley rolls out red carpet
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/6668447.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/6668447.stm)  
 
 since i can't find a decent hockey bar in this town: suggestions for a good soccer bar?  i'm considering catching the game at  lucky bar (http://www.luckybardc.com/soccer.asp), but that's mostly out of convenience and habit (it's where i caught most of the world cup last year).  suggestions for a new venue in DC would be welcome.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 18, 2007, 05:12:00 pm
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
   suggestions for a new venue in DC would be welcome.
There were only two, really, when I was there.  Lucky Bar and Cap Lounge and 99.9% of the time I went to the lucky bar.  The owner (the bald guy) is Welsh and a huge Giggsy fan, and that's why I support him.
 
 There's that place in VA that I forget the name of (Summners?), but, I'm not a B&T guy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 19, 2007, 03:22:00 pm
Never saw the game.....should it have been a penalty, and was it a goal?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on May 20, 2007, 12:21:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Never saw the game.....should it have been a penalty, and was it a goal?
are you referring to rooney's slide that pushed cech into the net, well after he had caught it?  the ball was definitely over the line, but my understanding is that the call was correct -  momentum like does not a legal goal make.
 
 over-all, a relatively unexciting game.  good thing i got to watch over at a friend's... spent the money on fresh cherries, chips, and lager.  yummy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 21, 2007, 08:27:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 There's that place in VA that I forget the name of (Summners?), but, I'm not a B&T guy.
i thought you worked at the 4 p's
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 21, 2007, 08:42:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by sweetcell:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Never saw the game.....should it have been a penalty, and was it a goal?
are you referring to rooney's slide that pushed cech into the net, well after he had caught it?  the ball was definitely over the line, but my understanding is that the call was correct -  momentum like does not a legal goal make.
 
 over-all, a relatively unexciting game.  good thing i got to watch over at a friend's... spent the money on fresh cherries, chips, and lager.  yummy. [/b]
It's no biggie, the season's over, we won the main one, but as Giggsy said, if it's not a foul then it's a goal, and the ref never called it for a foul so it has to be a goal. Just imagine the belly-aching if it was at the other end.
 
 HEY WE GOT OUR MAN!!! HARGREAVES WILL MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN MIDFIELD!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 21, 2007, 12:50:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i thought you worked at the 4 p's
I did.  The original 4Ps was in Cleveland Park (now the 4 Green Fields) and I lived just a few blocks away.  That's the one I worked at.  
 
 I have never been to the 4Ps in VA.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 21, 2007, 12:53:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  as Giggsy said, if it's not a foul then it's a goal, and the ref never called it for a foul so it has to be a goal. Just imagine the belly-aching if it was at the other end.
Giggs is right, but I would have called a foul.  
 
 You didn't miss much Mank. Relatively boring game with few chances.  Some tired bodies out there for both squads.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 21, 2007, 01:01:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i thought you worked at the 4 p's
I did.  The original 4Ps was in Cleveland Park (now the 4 Green Fields) and I lived just a few blocks away.  That's the one I worked at.  
 
 I have never been to the 4Ps in VA. [/b]
that makes tons more sense than living in dc and working at a bar in falls church
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 21, 2007, 02:44:00 pm
Classy move from a classy owner....
 
 Hayward frees Wolves
 
 New owner agrees to inveset at least £30m in the club
 
 Paul Doyle
 Monday May 21, 2007
 Guardian Unlimited
 
 Sir Jack Hayward has agreed to "gift" Wolverhampton Wanderers to business Steve Morgan for a mere £10. As part of the deal, which should be formalised over the coming month, Morgan has agreed to invest £30m "for the benefit of the club".
 
 Hayward bought Wolves for £2m in 1990 and has since then invested some £50m of his fortune into the club. He has been searching for someone to hand the club over to since 2003, but always insisted that his concern was not to make a financial killing on the deal but to ensure new life was breathed into the club. He has previously rejected takeover bids by, amongst others, Graeme Souness. "In Steve Morgan, Sir Jack feels he has finally found someone who not only has the best interests of the club at heat but also has the resources necessary to take over the responsibility for returning the club to its former greatness," read a club statement.
 
 "It is intended that the new capital, over a period of time, will be used to help re-establish Wolves as a Premiership club. Although there is a significant amount of money there will not be an 'open cheque book' approach to signing players; instead the club will build on the current strategy of steadily and progressively developing a team of young, hungry and talented players."
 
 Morgan made his fortune as the founder of house builder Redrow plc before selling a majority shareholding in 2000. He is chairman of a number of privately-owned companies including, Harrow Estates plc, one of the UK's contaminated land specialists. He came close to buying Liverpool in 2004, the club he has supported since childhood. "He fully understands the game, its importance to fans and its local community," contineud the Wolves' statement.
 
 With a young, cheap squad, Wolves managed to finish fifth in the Championship this season before being beaten in the playoff semi-finals by local rivals West Brom. Their manager Mick McCarthy has been told his job is not in jeopardy despite the imminent takeover.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 21, 2007, 04:08:00 pm
The first thing I'd do is can McCarthy. He's the Irish Kevin Keegan....he's 'almost' achieved so much, but actually achieved squat
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 23, 2007, 05:10:00 pm
kiss the cup goodbye Stevie - justice is finally done!!!!
 
  <img src="http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2005/07/08/carra.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on May 23, 2007, 08:53:00 pm
Did anyone watch the final? What did you think?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 24, 2007, 07:11:00 am
HA HA HAHAHA HA HAHA HOOOOO HEEEE HAHAHAHAHA
 
 Okay, now lets go count the trophies in the Anfield display cabinet for this season????
 
 Gerrard is a tool.
 
  <img src="http://www.bluekipper.com/assets/images/blubber/Shootin%20Shite!.gif" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 24, 2007, 08:54:00 am
What goes......
 
 "BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP"?
 
 The Liverpool parade bus backing back into the garage!!!
 
   :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 24, 2007, 09:49:00 am
the fools lose, newcastle looks to be bought by an english billionaire
 
 hopefully, the pieman is out
 
 good times
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 24, 2007, 01:00:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
  Did anyone watch the final? What did you think?
I thought Liverpool were a little hard lucked to finish the first half down 1-0, but Milan were the class of the second half and deserved the win.  Gerrard just couldn't get much going and Dida made a nice save in his one good opportunity.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 24, 2007, 02:27:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
  Did anyone watch the final? What did you think?
I thought Liverpool were a little hard lucked to finish the first half down 1-0, but Milan were the class of the second half and deserved the win.  Gerrard just couldn't get much going and Dida made a nice save in his one good opportunity. [/b]
Oh come on smackie....I would've put that one away and I'm almost 47 years old with a gimpy knee. Don't give the goalie credit for lousy finishing by Gerrard. It's amazing that a team could go so far with the goalie as the weakest link.
 
 I'm still waiting for the scouse conspiricy theorists to come with some b.s. about finishing the game 30 seconds early seeing as it was AC Milan, who were initially banned from the competition for match fixing. That was strange I must admit...there should've been at least another full minute after the feined injury during the added time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 25, 2007, 07:11:00 am
Never mind...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 30, 2007, 05:01:00 pm
WOW!!!!!
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6706423.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6706423.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 30, 2007, 05:21:00 pm
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42989000/jpg/_42989921_anderson_nani203.jpg" alt=" - " />
 couldnt they find a better picture?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 30, 2007, 08:26:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  WOW!!!!!
 
 
No kidding.  Peter Kenyon must be fit to be tied.  That my friend, is the result of winning the Premiereship and not the FA and Carling Cups.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 31, 2007, 09:30:00 pm
http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9267864&CFID=7155171&CFTOKEN=74800451 (http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9267864&CFID=7155171&CFTOKEN=74800451)
 
 Spoils to the victors
 May 31st 2007
 From The Economist print edition
 
 New owners, more revenues??and a change in the Euroworks?
 
 ONE could hardly think of an unlikelier trophy for a billionaire businessman than Newcastle United Football Club, which has won no significant competition for decades. But stranger things have been happening in English football than the £133m bid for the club announced on May 24th by Mike Ashley, a sportswear mogul.
 
 A slew of other prominent businessmen are also queuing up to buy football clubs. Thaksin Shinawatra, a deposed Thai prime minister, has made an indicative bid for Manchester City, and Southampton has recently received an offer from Paul Allen, one of the founders of Microsoft.
 
 Why the continuing love affair with English clubs? Figures released on May 31st by Deloitte, an accounting firm, provide one answer: the revenues of Premier League clubs are likely to be almost £1.8 billion in the coming season, up from about £1.4 billion in the one just finished. In the past, such jumps in income have gone mostly to players, with little, if any, left over for club owners.
 
 And for good reason: the market for talent in football is remarkably efficient. On the whole, those clubs that pay the most to players tend to win more games. And to the victors go the spoils. Teams that rank higher in the various leagues earn far more through marketing deals than those that they have beaten.
 
 But two changes seem to be taking place in English football, says Dan Jones, who heads the sports group at Deloitte. The first is that English clubs have done a better job of marketing themselves and securing good broadcast deals than rivals elsewhere. In the next season Premier League clubs are likely to earn nearly £700m more than those in the next most lucrative European league, Italy's Serie A. The top English teams can now afford to pay so much for talent that, barring a very few rich clubs elsewhere such as Barcelona or Real Madrid, they are competing mostly with each other.
 
 The second change is an influx of new owners such as Malcolm Glazer, an American who paid £790m to take over Manchester United in 2005. They are replacing an old guard who ran clubs for love and glory. Many of the newcomers have big debts, forcing them to focus on profit.
 
 Such thinking has sports bureaucrats worried. A report on European football for the European Commission last year fretted that ??football should not be a contest between corporate leviathans with the outcome dictated by whoever has the deepest pockets?. It urged cost controls such as a payroll tax on rich clubs to finance poorer ones. The aim is to retain a ??competitive balance? so that fans do not lose interest in the game, thinking that their club has no shot at victory.
 
 Stefan Szymanski, who teaches economics at Imperial College London, reckons one outcome of a proposal the European Commission is debating now could be the adoption of an American sports model that forces teams to share revenue and lets the worst of them pick some of the best new talent. That would make owning lower-ranking clubs more profitable. Perhaps Mr Ashley's purchase is not so odd after all.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 31, 2007, 10:57:00 pm
outside of the big 4, is there a better club to own in england?
 
 actually, i dont even care, as long as the fat freddy reign of terror is over
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 01, 2007, 07:19:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  outside of the big 4, is there a better club to own in england?
 
 actually, i dont even care, as long as the fat freddy reign of terror is over
Who's the 4th?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 01, 2007, 08:31:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  outside of the big 4, is there a better club to own in england?
 
 actually, i dont even care, as long as the fat freddy reign of terror is over
Who's the 4th? [/b]
manchester united
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on June 01, 2007, 09:44:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  outside of the big 4, is there a better club to own in england?
 
 actually, i dont even care, as long as the fat freddy reign of terror is over
Who's the 4th? [/b]
manchester united [/b]
You british members of the board. One day you will have to explain where the hell are some traditional teams such as Nottingham Forest (two European Cups), Leeds United, Queens Park Rangers, Sheffield Wednesday, Norwich, Ipswich Town, Cristal Palace.. I think I haven't seen them in the premierleague for a while.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 01, 2007, 03:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  outside of the big 4, is there a better club to own in england?
 
 actually, i dont even care, as long as the fat freddy reign of terror is over
Who's the 4th? [/b]
manchester united [/b]
Right.... Spurs, Newcastle, Aston Villa and Manchester United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 03, 2007, 08:45:00 pm
haha, i just couldnt figure out who you were zonging (chelski?)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 04, 2007, 11:45:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  haha, i just couldnt figure out who you were zonging (chelski?)
I was...not a big club, just a rich owner.
 
 Look, liverscum won something this season after all, well deserved too!
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6717793.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6717793.stm)
 
 Stealing tickets from kids pretty much sums those dirtbags up really!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 04, 2007, 02:33:00 pm
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Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 12, 2007, 01:06:00 pm
Forty Signs That It`s Summer
 
 1) Thierry Henry is off to Barcelona.
 2) You keep checking the internet to see if you've signed someone. You just did it now.
 3) And again.
 4) The Mailbox is half as long as normal.
 5) Thierry Henry is off to Real Madrid now.
 6) ManYoo release a new kit.
 7) Football pundits find themselves shoehorned into covering other sports.
 8) As do football journalists. Quick, look busy.
 9) Someone English is cheered all the way to the fourth round of Wimbledon from Henman Hill or Murray Mount or somewhere.
 10) Actually, Andrew Murray's f**king Scottish, isn't he? Let's not cheer for him.
 11) Sue Barker sits there and tells you it's a "Great British summer of sport".
 12) You end up knowing the names of half the footballers' agents in the Premier League.
 13) Old pros are forced to play football as satellite TV desperately scrabbles around for material.
 14) Spurs target a top-four finish.
 15) Your skin has gone a funny lobster colour and hurts.
 16) Golf seems interesting.
 17) Everyone gets excited waiting for the fixture list. Ooh, we play every team twice! Once home and once away! I can't wait!
 18) You actually start to miss Alan Hansen.
 19) Cricket is the new football. So we're told.
 20) You try to convince yourself that the awful player linked with your club has just been misunderstood in the past.
 21) And as for those players you've never heard of, well, best check their stats on Football Manager. That'll work.
 22) You start to fancy Clare Balding.
 23) Sky Sports News is even duller than normal.
 24) Fernando Torres is linked with a move to the Premiership. (Note: In previous years, this role was regularly filled by Benni McCarthy).
 25) You tell yourself staying up all night to watch the Copa America and MLS is normal.
 26) It's Liverpool's year.
 27) You suddenly realise you've got a wife and kids and that you haven't spoken to them for nine months. And they hate you.
 28) You contemplate seeing if you can find your old Subbuteo set in the loft.
 29) You persuade your family this year's holiday should be in Norway just so you can watch live football. Brann are top, you know, and Odd
 Grenland have only won once. Fascinating.
 30) You persuade yourself the Intertoto Cup is really great.
 31) You start craving cold lager at 10am every day.
 32) You get so desperate that you start watching Eurosport 2 in the hope some football comes on.
 33) You find yourself travelling 100 miles on a bus to watch the youth team's reserves playing a pre-season friendly.
 34) You realise it's 3pm on a Saturday afternoon and you're holding your missus' bags in Top Shop. And even though she's trying to talk to you, all you're thinking is 'Ooh, I remember when Top Man used to sponsor Leeds'.
 35) You love being top four or hate being in the relegation zone. Even though the league is entirely alphabetical.
 36) You breathe a sigh of relief when you realise pre-season friendlies start in the first week of July. Because watching your out-of-shape side play Stevenage is just great, isn't it?
 37) Newcastle sign 15 players. Only one of them is a defender.
 38) You start to work out how many players it would take for your side to break into the Big Four. Then you think how great it would be if you
 somehow won your first ten games and managed to stay ahead of the rest and be in with a shout of the league.
 39) You convince yourself it's worth sticking a quid on it at 2500/1 odds. 50p, at least.
 40) You put the other 50p on ManYoo getting relegated at 7500/1. Anything's possible, right?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 12, 2007, 01:39:00 pm
LIES
 
 newcastle has yet to sign any defenders
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 12, 2007, 05:47:00 pm
I would have added:
 
 41) You pick up a book to read this summer depsite the fact that you read it 15 times already and hate Arsenal.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 13, 2007, 08:36:00 am
nick takes some real shots at the toon in it too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 13, 2007, 10:47:00 am
42)Arsenal sign a non-english speaking player.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 13, 2007, 11:06:00 am
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42989000/jpg/_42989921_anderson_nani203.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 13, 2007, 04:55:00 pm
<img src="http://soccerlens.com/images/OwenHargreaves.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 14, 2007, 09:53:00 am
<img src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:q8IX78PytSbJ-M:http://www.carling.com/media/player_images/player-image-1058.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
     <img src="http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/03/47/giggs_ryan_mufc_profile_2006.jpg" alt=" - " />
     <img src="http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/GB/SP0351~Wayne-Rooney-Posters.jpg" alt=" - " />
     <img src="http://cimg.163.com/sport/0507/11/zhu31.jpg" alt=" - " />
     <img src="http://soccerlens.com/images/AngryFerdinand.jpg" alt=" - " />
     <img src="http://www.football.co.uk/shared/images/players/players_80903.jpg" alt=" - " />
     <img src="http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/03/51/neville_gary_mufc_profile_2006.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
     <img src="http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/03/47/carrick_michael_mufc_profile_2006.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 There's a few more.....lets try arseholes now shall we? Or any of the other alleged English premier league top contenders for that matter.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 14, 2007, 09:56:00 am
little sensitive, eh?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 18, 2007, 10:57:00 am
Congratulations to Becks and Real Madrid...sorry Barcelona, can't win em all!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on June 18, 2007, 11:55:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Congratulations to Becks and Real Madrid...sorry Barcelona, can't win em all!!
I disconnected from the Spanish League a few weeks ago after the draw at home with Betis. It is embarrassing how we have handed the league to Real Madrid in the last games. Lack of motivation, overconfidence? not sure. Still, Beckham's resume in Real Madrid has been really sad, one big championship and given as a gift. There is no merit in what Madrid did this year. We just threw it away at home with an incredible lack of motivation.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 20, 2007, 10:53:00 am
wow. just. wow
 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/06/19/bc.soc.galaxy.beckham.ap/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/06/19/bc.soc.galaxy.beckham.ap/index.html)
 
 Galaxy president Lalas says English soccer is inferior
 Posted: Tuesday June 19, 2007 10:30AM; Updated: Tuesday June 19, 2007 12:08PM
 
 Galaxy GM and former U.S. defender Alexi Lalas is known for his eyebrow-raising statements.
 Christian Petersen/AFP/Getty Images
   
   
 LONDON (AP) -- Alexi Lalas helped humiliate English soccer 14 years ago. It looks like he's trying to do it again.
 
 The Los Angeles Galaxy president, who scored when the United States beat England 2-0 in a friendly match in 1993, told British newspapers that Major League Soccer is on a par with the Premier League.
 
 Irked by suggestions that David Beckham is going into semiretirement by joining the Galaxy, Lalas said the only reason the English league is popular is because of American-style marketing.
 
 "The fact that a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business," Lalas said in an interview with The Guardian published Tuesday.
 
 "In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality."
 
 Brian McBride and Clint Dempsey are among the American players in the Premier League, although they play for modest Fulham. None of the American players in England are stars of the caliber of those at teams such as Manchester United and Chelsea.
 
 McBride -- the third highest scorer in U.S. national team history with 30 goals -- scored nine times last season for Fulham, which finished 16th in the Premier League. His tally was 12 short of Didier Drogba's league-high 21 for Chelsea, and the same as Wigan's Emile Heskey and Aston Villa's Gabriel Agbonlahor.
 
 Despite criticizing the Premier League for sloganeering and over-marketing, Lalas claimed that, when he arrives, Beckham will have a higher profile in the United States than Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan.
 
 "The U.S. will never have dealt with an athlete who has had this kind of international impact," Lalas told The Mirror. "Tiger Woods has that international appeal but, with due respect to Woods and Michael Jordan, David Beckham is at an entirely different level."
 
 Lalas, a 37-year-old former United States defender, said his country's record at the past four World Cups compared favorably with that of England -- England has two underwhelming quarterfinal appearances to one for the U.S. -- and suggested almost all those who criticize the MLS have yet to see the league.
 
 However, several British papers were unimpressed by the Galaxy's 3-2 win over Real Salt Lake on Sunday.
 
 "The game was not without moments of quality ... (but) some of the defending from both sides was the type of stuff you watch through your fingers," according to The Mirror. "It was the football equivalent of a demolition derby.
 
 "The use of possession was alarmingly careless and the concept of marking appeared not to have found its way across the Atlantic."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 20, 2007, 12:24:00 pm
Lalas is a tool, and was barely average as a player, or a European team would've signed him like they do with all the better US players, of which there are many....and the only reason he's relatively well known is because of his retarded name and even more retarded hairstyle when he was playing.
 
 Beating any team in a friendly is meaningless, not talking the thrill of victory away from the US, but come onnnnnnn the England players were probably hung over and the US players playing in what was probably the biggest game of their lives at the time.
 
 He's trying to cause headlines because of the arrival of the great messiah to his small backwards village.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 20, 2007, 01:09:00 pm
he did play in serie a, but whatever
 
 i swear i saw him endorse us players going to europe to better their games. guy is good at getting people talking, i'll give him that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 20, 2007, 01:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  he did play in serie a, but whatever
 
 
Is that before or during the corruption in that league??? I should've said credible European league.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 20, 2007, 01:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Lalas is a tool
You said enough right there.
 
 Could you imagine Landy Cakes with an English team having to travel anywhere in England for an away match and not crapping himself?  Make it a Derby and he'll have an anxiety attack for sure.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 20, 2007, 01:23:00 pm
if padova pays people off, they do a shitty job of it
 
 i hate dissing a donovan, but even take dempsey, beasley and gooch. none of them have stuck for midtable teams
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 20, 2007, 01:44:00 pm
So sad, one year ago this is how I was spending my summer....
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HphVG_JFlHM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HphVG_JFlHM)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 20, 2007, 02:48:00 pm
Besides, isn't Lalas one of the Teletubbies?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 22, 2007, 11:14:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  beasley and gooch. none of them have stuck for midtable teams
I didn't realize that both of them had been cut from their squads.  Just a sad statement about US Soccer - I thought they had a chance, especially Onyewu.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 22, 2007, 11:41:00 am
gooch was rumored to resurface with birmingham, i think that might be off, though
 
 he was brought in to be the defensive savior and roeder hardly played him. he did seem to give up too many penalties too close to the box, but i really dont think he got a fair shake. all during the january transfer window glenn swore up and down that we'd see some defensive relief and come 2/1 we still have managerkiller bramble next to taylor. and anytime transfers were brought up he like to trumpet oba, who apparently has an 13 million pound out clause
 
 thank god he was sacked and ashley bought the club
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 28, 2007, 07:01:00 pm
Updated: June 27, 2007
 
 Beasley transferring to Rangers
 Associated Press
 
 GLASGOW, Scotland -- American midfielder DaMarcus Beasley transferred to Scotland's Glasgow Rangers on Wednesday.
 
 The 25-year-old, who helped the United States beat Mexico on Sunday in the CONCACAF Gold Cup final in Chicago, was injured for much of last season and played just 18 Premier League games for Manchester City. He was on loan to the English club from PSV Eindhoven.
 
 Beasley has signed a 3-year contract and, although Rangers did not reveal how much it paid PSV, reports said the fee was about $1.38 million.
 
 "I've got a couple of good friends who played at Rangers, Michael Ball and Claudio Reyna, and they had good things to say about the football club," Beasley said. "Claudio said that being at Rangers is like being part of a massive family. Everyone is nice. Everything is first class."
 
 Beasley has 15 goals in 68 international appearances. He won two Dutch Eredivisie titles with PSV.
 
 He is looking forward to helping Rangers qualify for the European Champions League. The qualifying draw will be held Friday.
 
 "It's a big draw," Beasley said. "I played two years there with PSV, and we had a great run in my first year there. We went to the semifinal and no one thought we could do it. We were a small club compared to Real Madrid, Chelsea, Barcelona and teams like that, so Rangers can do the same thing. I'm looking forward to starting that campaign. Hopefully, we will qualify, and I'm sure we will."
 
 Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on June 28, 2007, 11:04:00 pm
torres to liverpool for $54 million bucks
 
 crazy money even by Man U standards - will be v hard for him to live up to/justify that price tag
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 29, 2007, 10:51:00 am
Why in God's name would any quality player move to Scotland?
 
 And Chelski are the new benchmark for overpriced players, not United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 29, 2007, 11:28:00 am
he's spanish, so add 10 million (pound) to the regular price. what we call 'rafa prices'  :(  
 
 beasley was not exactly great last year, rangers seems actually a pretty good place for him
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 29, 2007, 12:36:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Why in God's name would any quality player move to Scotland?
 
Did you just call an American player "quality"?  You're slipping.
 
 He's going to crap himself before the first Old Firm match.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 29, 2007, 01:04:00 pm
20 minutes after waking up?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 29, 2007, 01:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Why in God's name would any quality player move to Scotland?
 
Did you just call an American player "quality"?  You're slipping.
 
 He's going to crap himself before the first Old Firm match. [/b]
I've said numerous times that the USA has quality players, they just need a quality coach so they can play to their full potential at the national level.
 
 And I know MIKE Owen is just to wind us up at this point.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 29, 2007, 01:26:00 pm
more to zong him for taking 2 years of absurd wages and costing us 7 million pounds...for not much. if he stays and plays, he can be michael again
 
 if he leaves, he might have to be mike hunt owen
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 05, 2007, 01:15:00 pm
United set to seal deal for Tevez?
 
 Argentina striker Carlos Tevez is close to sealing a move to Manchester United.
 
   
 The player, source of so much controversy for West Ham last season, is currently on international duty with Argentina in the Copa America.
 
 It is understood however that his representatives and United are close to sealing an agreement for the 23-year-old and he is set to sign once the tournament in Venezuela finishes on July 14.
 
 The details of the transfer remain unknown as Tevez is still under contract for three more years with West Ham.
 
 The Hammers are embroiled in a legal dispute with his agent Kia Joorabchian, who runs the company Media Sports Investment (MSI), after the club terminated an agreement giving the rights to any transfer fee for the player during transfer windows.
 
 Tevez's proposed move to United has been complicated by the fact he is still a registered West Ham player.
 
 The London club could dig their heels in and refuse to let him move without a fee, which would spark another legal wrangle.
 
 It is more likely however that they will decide the best way to end the whole controversy surrounding the player is to allow him to move on a free transfer, especially given that they did not pay a fee for him last summer.
 
 By not throwing a spanner in the works, it could also help West Ham end their legal dispute with Joorabchian which blew up after they unilaterally terminated all third-party agreements with him following Premier League action in April.
 
 Given the history surrounding the player, United are certain to go through all the paperwork in minute detail to ensure everything meets Premier League rules.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 06, 2007, 07:40:00 am
I'd rather we keep Alan Smith - at least he has nice teeth!  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 06, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
brilliant moves so far from manusa, hard to compliment them but...damn
 
 think they are adding depth for the champions league?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 06, 2007, 12:33:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  brilliant moves so far from manusa, hard to compliment them but...damn
 
 think they are adding depth for the champions league?
The Guardian was talking about there new 4-1-3-2 lineup for Europe, so it sure seems that way.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 16, 2007, 03:59:00 pm
Since I'm sure very few others were watching the u-20 World Cup this weekend, you probably missed out on the new Adidas commercial with Becks and Reggie Bush.  The whole thing was about 3 minutes long.  You can view it all in pieces here:
 
 http://www.futbolmeetsfootball.com/ (http://www.futbolmeetsfootball.com/)
 
 Or the actual commerical here:
 
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ii5CkiPdBSc (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ii5CkiPdBSc)
 
 Watching Becks juggle an American Football is beyond impressive.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on July 16, 2007, 06:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Since I'm sure very few others were watching the u-20 World Cup this weekend, you probably missed out on the new Adidas commercial with Becks and Reggie Bush.  The whole thing was about 3 minutes long.  You can view it all in pieces here:
 
  http://www.futbolmeetsfootball.com/ (http://www.futbolmeetsfootball.com/)
 
 Or the actual commerical here:
 
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ii5CkiPdBSc (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ii5CkiPdBSc)
 
 Watching Becks juggle an American Football is beyond impressive.
Agreed, but he looked completely ridiculous in the shoulder pads and helmet.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 16, 2007, 09:34:00 pm
You know, I read on some sports website that while they were warming up for that commercial Becks kicked a 64 yard field goal and broke the current NFL record - with his first kick of a runny-catchy ball. Bush was quoted as saying "Holy *&it, he's got a golden foot"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 17, 2007, 01:28:00 pm
The hot rumor for today is Freddie Adu to Spurs and not Celtic.  He earned a look after his performance in the U-20 World Cup, but I don't see him winning a full time place at Spurs at this juncture.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 17, 2007, 03:17:00 pm
interesting. would not have guessed that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 17, 2007, 05:58:00 pm
I could see him at Celtic but not in the top tier of the premiership - he wasn't even close to cutting the mustard at Man U.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on July 18, 2007, 06:45:00 am
Beckham adds no spice to U.S. fans' sports diet
 Rick Maese
 
 Rick Maese
 July 18, 2007
 
 He hasn't yet made his American debut, but David Beckham has already made the cover of Sports Illustrated. Five thousand fans showed up at the Home Depot Center last week - for a news conference. The paparazzi have abandoned our favorite food-deprived starlets to deliver us round-the-clock Beckham coverage.
 
 We're still a couple of days away from Beckham suiting up for the Los Angeles Galaxy and already soccer's summertime sideshow has made it easy to overlook the actual game Beckham's supposed to be weaving into the American fabric. But did we really expect anything else?
 
 
 "Say hello, America," beckons the ESPN commercial. "Beckham arrives Saturday." In that sense, Beckham feels more like a new Apple product or perhaps a storm front. As a pop culture phenomenon, he has certainly arrived.
 
 However, as some soccer knight whose footwork and gamesmanship are supposed to convert us into believers, he'll be as welcomed as a door-to-door Bible salesman. We don't need to witness a second of action to once again note that just because the rest of the world might be selling, American sports fans aren't buying. Not only are they hawking the wrong product, but they've chosen the wrong pitchman.
 
 From the fine folks who brought us warm beer and driving on the wrong side of the road comes this latest line of twisted logic: The world's most popular soccer player is charged with finally pushing the sport into the mainstream.
 
 You aren't going to sway a nation that prefers football to futbol by simply sending over the most popular athlete you can muster. If we collectively think the sport is boring to watch, the solution is not to send us someone who's mastered the boredom. That's like a television network airing an hour-long reality show on paint drying - and encouraging you to watch because the broadcast features the nicest, shiniest paint in the world. American sports fans aren't fooled by dimples and hard abs and a Spice Girl on one arm - to us, it's still paint drying.
 
 This isn't to suggest that Major League Soccer's venture won't garner attention. It most certainly will find some level of success. The Galaxy signing Beckham doesn't woo legions of new fans to the sport; instead, the new star is merely a vehicle for a fan base that's already had its soccer license for many years.
 
 That's why since the Beckham signing was announced six months ago, you haven't visited the water cooler at work and heard the Dallas Cowboys fan chatting up the Chicago Bulls fan about soccer. Those most excited to see Beckham in MLS are those already familiar with MLS.
 
 The prophecy is oft-repeated. Pele came to America in 1975, and while he sold some tickets and helped build the sport's identity here, three decades later we're still talking about some improbable day when every American newborn is handed a soccer ball on the way out of the delivery room.
 
 Put simply: In America, soccer is a wonderful participatory sport. For a variety of reasons, it is a terrible spectator event. That doesn't change with one man. In fact, you could bring in the top dozen European players and it wouldn't change. If you want American sports fans to take an interest, put Ray Lewis in a D.C. United jersey. Or even better, put Victoria Beckham in a Galaxy jersey.
 
 Like any niche sport, soccer's hard-core fans will revel in David Beckham's arrival. But even those who don't plan to catch more than a few minutes of an MLS game will find him difficult to ignore. We're a celebrity-infused culture, and Beckham no doubt intrigues us. But not as an athlete.
 
 Just as with a long line of pretty faces, our interest will have nothing to do with his talents. No more than we care about Paris Hilton because of her handbag collection or Tara Reid because of her method acting. Beckham's audience is more TMZ.com than ESPN.com; Entertainment Tonight, not Baseball Tonight.
 
 And only half of that interest is even attributed to Beckham. Among the Internet's top search subjects, Victoria Beckham was ranked No. 2 by Yahoo.com yesterday. And Mr. Posh Spice? He was No. 19. A safe guess is that those searches weren't all performed by newly converted soccerheads filling suburbia from Walla Walla, Wash., to Bangor, Maine.
 
 Ultimately, Beckham's paycheck parade across American soil won't be about increasing the sport's popularity. Beckham's popularity, maybe. But not soccer's. Meantime, we'll be force-fed updates on the Beckhams' shopping habits and dining decisions. Occasionally we might get a soccer score or two, but for the American appetite, that will never be anything more than garnish on our sports plate.
 
 It's not a point of pride, but in our glitter-obsessed culture, we care about who someone is, not what they do. In that sense, Beckham might make for a bland American sports star, but he's the perfect American celebrity.
 
 
 rick.maese@baltsun.com
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 18, 2007, 09:24:00 am
every column i've read has said the becks thing isnt going to work, and maybe it wont, but the whole 'it wont work because americans dont like soccer' seems vague and general to me
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on July 18, 2007, 11:09:00 am
One problem is that it doesn't seem like there is a sportswriter who actually likes soccer. Most of the articles and television commentary I've read or heard expresses what seems to be a generational bias against soccer. Sometimes it seems as though most sportswriters are of a certain age, and that age bracket did not develop an appreciation of soccer which comes out in their writing or commentary.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 18, 2007, 11:14:00 am
exactly. the guys 15 years older than them said the same things about nascar, i am sure
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 18, 2007, 11:46:00 am
I don't know.  There were over 1000 people at the Galaxy's practice on Monday.  The week before?  Zero.  I don't remember Pele ever getting anyone to watch a practice, especially one where he was injured.
 
 I for one, am excited about it, and I am rarely if ever excited about MLS.  So that's a new deomgraphic - people who like "football" who might actually watch a little more "soccer."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 18, 2007, 12:09:00 pm
the commentary is so far off. becks isnt a pele clone, mls has a business model based on not repeting nasl mistakes, ect.
 
 i just think its funny that the espn dudes seem to be trying so hard to not care about a league that's on their own network
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 19, 2007, 09:52:00 am
One player isn't going to knock the NFL off Sunday tv all day long, but he will attract attention to the game from those who have paid no attention to it in the past. It's not Beckhams job to keep them coming, it's the MLS's job by giving us a more entertaining and exciting product on the field.
 
 I'm a prime example - I'm just shy of obsessed with the sport but you couldn't pay me to sit through a 90 minute MLS match. It's boring, plain and simple. I'm sorry, but it is.
 
 Remember Chelski and all they've achieved since money bags took over? They still can't fill their ramshackle stadium because their game is boring. You have to give the fans something entertaining or they'll just won't pay to watch.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 20, 2007, 12:29:00 pm
It is with Great Pleasure that I bring you the first installment of the 2007-2008 TV Schedule:
 
 Saturday, August 11
 
 7:45 Sunderland v Tottenham Hotspur, Setanta Sports
 10:00 West Ham United v Manchester City, Fox Soccer Channel
 10:00 Bolton Wanderers v Newcastle United, Setanta Sports
 12:15 Aston Villa v Liverpool, Fox Soccer Channel
 2:30 Derby v Portsmouth [Tape Delay],Fox Soccer Channel
 
 Sunday, August 12
 
 8:30 Chelsea v Birmingham City, Setanta Sports
 11:00 Manchester United v Reading, Fox Soccer Channel
 
 Tuesday, August 14
 
 3:00 Tottenham Hotspur v Everton, Setanta Sports
 
 Wednesday, August 15
 
 3:00 Portsmouth v Manchester United, Setanta Sports
 
 Saturday, August 18
 
 7:45 Portsmouth v Bolton Wanderers, Setanta Sports
 10:00 Tottenham Hotspur v Derby County, Fox Soccer Channel
 10:00 Blackburn Rovers v Arsenal, Setanta Sports
 12:15 Newcastle United v Aston Villa, Fox Soccer Channel
 2:30 Wigan Athletic v Sunderland [Tape Delay], Fox Soccer Channel
 
 Sunday, August 19
 
 8:30 Manchester City v Manchester United, Setanta Sports
 11:00 Liverpool v Chelsea, Fox Soccer Channel
 
 Saturday, August 25
 
 7:45 Sunderland v Liverpool, Setanta Sports
 10:00 Arsenal v Manchester City, Fox Soccer Channel
 10:00 Chelsea v Portsmouth, Setanta Sports
 12:15 Everton v Blackburn Rovers, Fox Soccer Channel
 
 Sunday, August 26
 
 1:00AM Derby County v Birmingham City [Tape Delay], Fox Soccer Channel
 8:30 Middlesbrough v Newcastle United, Setanta Sports
 11:00 Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur,  Fox Soccer Channel
 
 Saturday, September 1
 
 10:00 Fulham v Tottenham Hotspur, Fox Soccer Channel
 12:15 Manchester United v Sunderland, Fox Soccer Channel
 6:00 Blackburn Rovers v Manchester City [Tape Delay], Fox Soccer Channel
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 20, 2007, 02:37:00 pm
fuck! only one fsc game, and i wont be moved in until early sept  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 25, 2007, 12:20:00 pm
'Family problems' to end Dyer's Newcastle career?
 
 Newcastle boss Sam Allardyce has admitted Kieron Dyer could leave the club over 'family problems'.
   
 The 28-year-old midfielder has been at the centre of speculation that he wants a move away from St James' Park after eight years for more than a week amid claims he is unhappy on Tyneside.
 
 Allardyce revealed at the weekend he would hold talks with the England international in an effort to discover his feelings, and having done so, is now attempting to resolve the issue.
 
 He said: 'At the moment, there's a problem from a family point of view and we have to try to see whether we can resolve that, and if we cannot, then that may well result in Kieron looking to leave the club for that reason and that reason alone.
 
 'That's the discussion we have had. It's obviously disappointing for me, but it is one I understand.
 
 'If somebody has got a problem they cannot resolve, then ultimately in the long run, it is better for the club and better for him if you can resolve that problem.
 
 'If that's away from here, then so be it.'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 25, 2007, 12:52:00 pm
his sister apparently got arrested in some sort of smack crack ring back in june
 
 on one hand he seems like the type of player that sam takes from being a misfit to a solid contributor, but on the other he's had 8 years and never shows much, and at 28 how much more does he have left. i say if someone offers £5 million take it, get him off of the wage books
 
 supposedly we have cash, but who could we get?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 25, 2007, 03:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  his sister apparently got arrested in some sort of smack crack ring back in june
 
 on one hand he seems like the type of player that sam takes from being a misfit to a solid contributor, but on the other he's had 8 years and never shows much, and at 28 how much more does he have left. i say if someone offers £5 million take it, get him off of the wage books
 
 supposedly we have cash, but who could we get?
He's been around that long?  I guess I've always thought of him as younger since we've all been waiting for him to "turn the corner" so to speak.
 
 I hear Tevez is still available and apparently anybody but Liverpool can have Heinze.  I have to wonder if all of those young midfielders who trasferred earlier to mid-table clubs are kicking themselves for not waiting a little bit.  I'd love to set-up Owen all season long at New Castle rather than whomever they're setting up now.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 25, 2007, 05:06:00 pm
my understanding is sam would love heinze, but either club or player is not interested
 
 i would guess he wants cl action, same with tevez
 
 but, yeah should be more firepower up front this year with viduka and owen. martins was our only real forward after christmas last year and he's third choice now
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 30, 2007, 01:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  interesting. would not have guessed that
All talk, apparently.
 
 This makes much more sense:
 
 Updated: July 30, 2007
 MLS star Adu poised to sign for Benfica
 Soccernet
 
 
 LISBON (AFP) - Freddy Adu, the most recognisable name in the Major League Soccer, was on Monday poised to sign a five year deal with Portuguese side Benfica.
 
 The Ghana-born Adu, 18, was twice named an MLS All-Star - in 2004 and 2006 - helped DC United capture the 2004 MLS Cup during his rookie season.
 
 According to press reports here Benfica have already paid out 1.5 million euros to recruit the United states international.
 
 Benfica are also due to sign Argentina duo Angel Di Maria and Andres Diaz.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 30, 2007, 06:18:00 pm
The wheels are just falling off the bus at Arsenal these days.  Too bad, because I really thought last year that they had enough young pieces to give Chelsea a run for second place in the next few years....
 
 Reyes gets wish in returning to Spain
 
 Arsenal have confirmed striker Jose Antonio Reyes has joined Atletico Madrid for an undisclosed fee.
 
 The Spain international's future has been the subject of speculation all summer after he made it clear he did not want to return to north London after a one-season loan at Real Madrid last year.
 
 Lyon, Atletico and Real were all in the running for his signature but the Rojiblancos have managed to add Reyes to their other summer signings including Diego Forlan and Simao Sabrosa.
 
 A statement on Atletico's official website reported Reyes has signed a four-year deal and will be unveiled at 10am on Tuesday.
 
 The 23-year-old Spain forward will then join up with his new team-mates ahead of the pre-season Amsterdam tournament at the weekend.
 
 Reyes spent last season on loan at Real Madrid, where he scored on the last day against Mallorca to help seal the win that brought the Primera Liga title back to the Bernabeu for the first time in four years.
 
 Unhappy with the climate in England, Reyes wanted to return to Spain, but an agreement between Arsenal and Real could not be reached.
 
 Reyes joined Arsenal from Sevilla in January 2004 and made a total of 110 appearances for the Gunners, scoring 23 goals.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on July 30, 2007, 06:26:00 pm
And who was going to say that Atletico de Madrid was going to steal a player from Real Madrid. Great!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 31, 2007, 11:21:00 am
are you guys selling deco or what?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on July 31, 2007, 11:50:00 am
I'm on the record in this thread as thinking that Adu is one of the most overrated players of all time. Has he done ANYTHING at Real Salt Lake this year?
 
 They'll have him for breakfast in Portugal.....
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  interesting. would not have guessed that
All talk, apparently.
 
 This makes much more sense:
 
 Updated: July 30, 2007
 MLS star Adu poised to sign for Benfica
 Soccernet
 
 
 LISBON (AFP) - Freddy Adu, the most recognisable name in the Major League Soccer, was on Monday poised to sign a five year deal with Portuguese side Benfica.
 
 The Ghana-born Adu, 18, was twice named an MLS All-Star - in 2004 and 2006 - helped DC United capture the 2004 MLS Cup during his rookie season.
 
 According to press reports here Benfica have already paid out 1.5 million euros to recruit the United states international.
 
 Benfica are also due to sign Argentina duo Angel Di Maria and Andres Diaz. [/b]
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 31, 2007, 11:58:00 am
he was the best player at the under-20's. that's enough for a deal
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 31, 2007, 12:33:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  I'm on the record in this thread as thinking that Adu is one of the most overrated players of all time. Has he done ANYTHING at Real Salt Lake this year?
 
 They'll have him for breakfast in Portugal.....
 
I was firmly in your camp until I saw him surrounded with some decent talent in the Gold cup and Fifa Under 20.  He plays well with others around him that know how to run to open space.  At DC and Real SL, his individual skills shine, but he looks like a ball hog because after he beats one player and there's no one to pass to, he turns it over.  That wasn't the case when the Americans that play in Europe were around him in the Gold Cup and Under 20's.  
 
 I'm not saying he's the next Pele because he's not (nor did I ever think he would be), but he's going to be good with other good talent around him.  Portugal will suit him fine.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on July 31, 2007, 02:37:00 pm
Isn't Newcastle really just another mid-table club, though?
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  his sister apparently got arrested in some sort of smack crack ring back in june
 
 on one hand he seems like the type of player that sam takes from being a misfit to a solid contributor, but on the other he's had 8 years and never shows much, and at 28 how much more does he have left. i say if someone offers £5 million take it, get him off of the wage books
 
 supposedly we have cash, but who could we get?
He's been around that long?  I guess I've always thought of him as younger since we've all been waiting for him to "turn the corner" so to speak.
 
 I hear Tevez is still available and apparently anybody but Liverpool can have Heinze.  I have to wonder if all of those young midfielders who trasferred earlier to mid-table clubs are kicking themselves for not waiting a little bit.  I'd love to set-up Owen all season long at New Castle rather than whomever they're setting up now. [/b]
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 31, 2007, 03:05:00 pm
every other midtable team has michael owen? interesting
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 03, 2007, 03:37:00 pm
4.15pm update
 
 West Ham finally agree to release Tevez
 
 Premier League ratifies deal which frees striker's way to Manchester United
 
 Friday August 3, 2007
 Guardian Unlimited
 
 
 One of this summer's most arduous transfer sagas appears to have come to a close after West Ham confirmed that they have agreed a £2m settlement with Media Sports Investments, the representatives of Carlos Tevez, which will allow the striker to leave the club.
 
 Tevez, who passed a medical at Old Trafford this morning with a view to a two-year loan deal, is expected to be confirmed as a Manchester United player early next week, when the move's official paperwork goes through.
 
 
 The agreement confirms that West Ham have a valid player's contract with Tevez and that they hold his playing registration. United, meanwhile, will pay around £5m per year, and have the option of making the deal permanent.
 
 Tevez will earn around £3.5m a season and could make his debut against Reading at Old Trafford on Sunday week.
 
 The Premier League has ratified the deal, revealing it is satisfied that West Ham had behaved in line with their undertakings when they terminated the third-part deals with Joorabchian in April. "The Premier League can confirm that its board has received and considered a proposal for the settlement of the dispute between Carlos Tevez and West Ham," read a statement.
 
 "The decision of the board, having received leading counsel's opinion, is that the agreement reached is compliant with the rules of the Premier League and consistent with the undertakings given by West Ham United to the Premier League board at various times since April 27 2007. This will lead to the cancellation of Tevez's registration, thereby releasing him to join another club in due course."
 
 Joorabchian confirmed the agreement brings to a close the legal proceedings he had set in motion against the club. "We are delighted that a settlement has been reached between all parties to secure Carlos Tevez's move from West Ham United to Manchester United," said Joorabchian.
 
 "Our primary concern has always been to resolve this issue amicably and to allow Carlos to pursue his ambition to play for Manchester United. Carlos is looking forward to being a Manchester United player and his ambition is close to being achieved. We would like to thank Manchester United for all their patience and support throughout."
 
 The West Ham chairman Eggert Magnusson was relieved the affair has finally been concluded. "All parties involved can now move on and truly focus on the new season," he said. "I wish Carlos Tevez well for the next stage of his playing career. He is a fine player and I am sure he will be successful wherever he plays football. Personally, I am looking forward to the next stage of our development as a club and for what I hope will be a very exciting new season in the Premier League."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 10, 2007, 11:07:00 am
are we going to talk about THE EVE OF THE NEW SEASON today
 
 i am trying REALLY REALLY hard not to get my hopes up too high. but, i am glad that i have something to do saturday mornings again
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2007, 11:28:00 am
Well, I'm about to get on a plane to start the season with my brother-in-law, yet another Man U supporter, but I'll be in the airport for a while so why not?
 
 I think Alan Smith is going to make The Toon tougher up front, but the deficiencies in the back haven't been shored up yet.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 10, 2007, 11:46:00 am
hard to believe last year ended with sibierski being an automatic upfront selection
 
 rosenthal, enrique, and cacapa are all nice additions, but the biggest move was finally getting rid of stupid ass bramble. and all of this for just 14 million? shows how bad freddy/roeder were
 
 smith might see some time in the midfield too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 10, 2007, 12:21:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  are you guys selling deco or what?
I'm afraid that wither Deco or Ronaldinho will leave Barcelona before the end of the month. Milan are trying to do the impossible to get Ronaldinho. As for Deco, I thought Chelsea wanted him, but I am not sure now since Ballack said no to Madrid (now I like him!).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2007, 12:23:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  smith might see some time in the midfield too
He didn't quite work out as well as United hoped as a midfielder.  Though Fergie will never admit it publicly, he signed Smith with the hopes of replacing Keane, but Smith wasn't up to the task of being the stopper.  But up front with Rooney?  See the second leg of the Roma Champions League match for the answer to that question.  I think he'll compliment Owen nicely - he's fearless, just needs to work on his timing.
 
 Bolton is not the most friendly draw for New Castle to start, even before the Allardyce switch.  I'm looking forward to watching that one for sure.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 10, 2007, 12:34:00 pm
the theory is that smith might be played more as an attacking midfield or wide player, more to replace dyer. either way he there will be fights for spots, assuming that dukes, mikey and smudger can all stay healthy, or in owen's case get healthy   :roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2007, 12:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  the theory is that smith might be played more as an attacking midfield or wide player, more to replace dyer. either way he there will be fights for spots, assuming that dukes, mikey and smudger can all stay healthy, or in owen's case get healthy     :roll:  
I could see that.  United actually played a 4-3-2-1 in that Roma game and Smith was one of the 2's.
 
 And Barca, I don't see Rhonaldino going to Milan, but I do see Deco leaving.  I think you're right though, he wanted Chelski and with Ballack staying, that makes it tough to see him at Chelski.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 10, 2007, 12:50:00 pm
see big sam isnt married to the 4-4-2 like roeder was, so i would expect some 4-3-3, 4-3-2-1, 4-5-1 formations, so smudger is a great fit for that
 
 also, i fully expect manusa to carry the league. any ideas as to who gets the fourth cl spot this year (i bet mankie picks chelski    ;)    )
 
 we've been linked to deco, but with dyer staying at least for now, i think the 15 million tag is a bit much, and he wants cl action
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2007, 01:54:00 pm
I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK ARSENAL IS GUARANTEED THE THIRD SPOT THIS YEAR.  THEY'VE GOT A TON VETERAN LEADERSHIP TO REPLACE AND WENGER COMPLETELY UNDERESTIMATES THAT (SEE VIERA).  I LIKE TOTTENHAM AFTER KEEPING BERBATOV, NEWCASTLE AND SINCE THOSE ARE SAFE PICKS, I'LL THROW READING IN THE MIX.
 
 SORRY ABOUT THE ALL CAPS.  HAVING PHONE TROUBLES.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on August 10, 2007, 02:19:00 pm
what was the most impressive stadium you've ever seen a soccer match in?
 
 while in brazil recently, i caught a sold-out game at rio's  maracana stadium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Est%C3%A1dio_do_Maracan%C3%A3).  official capacity is now 93,000 but there were definitely more people there as all the aisles were packed too (sneaking in without a ticket was apparently easy to do).  it was during the pan-american games, where the brazilian women's team beat the US.  i went there to experience a cultural event, and the crowd provided one: two hours of dancing, chanting, booing and generally going nuts for the national team.  the game itself was relatively boring (a 5-0 brazilian blowout, two of the goals were really pretty) but i wasn't there for the game really.  the roar from the 100k+ crowd that followed each goal, and when the ref signaled that the game was over, was deafening.  despite its age - or maybe because of it - the stadium still looks really good.
 
 added bonus: it was a double-header, i got to see the canadian women win the bronze medal before the gold-medal game.  even got my section to cheer for them when they received their medals during the awards ceremony afterwards      :)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2007, 02:36:00 pm
Because I have yet to see Old Trafford, I'll go with Olympic Stadion, in Berlin during the World Cup.  I have seen the Bernabou and Nou Camp, but didn't get to watch a game (just a tour).
 
 The Rose Bowl for the 94 Wold Cup final was impressive as is the LA Coliseum when the Mexican National Team or Chivas is playing.
 
 I'll be seeing the Home Depot Center next week which, by American standards is a good soccer only venue, I hear.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 13, 2007, 01:27:00 pm
just so everyone knows, i am totally rooting for Newcastle United this year.  I have no real idea why other than i watched the match the other day and they're officially my boys.
 
 cause i feel the need to have a team over there, lol.
 
 so step off.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 13, 2007, 01:29:00 pm
I drank a Newcastle with the burrito I made last night.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 13, 2007, 01:43:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by le sonick:
  just so everyone knows, i am totally rooting for Newcastle United this year.  I have no real idea why other than i watched the match the other day and they're officially my boys.
 
 cause i feel the need to have a team over there, lol.
 
 so step off.
good choice. one of my friends is trying to pick a team, and everton is his other choice   :roll:  
 
 i was one happy little god this weekend
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 13, 2007, 07:52:00 pm
A change for the mid-week TV schedule:
 
 
 Tuesday August 14
 
 3:00 PM Tottenham v Everton (Set)
 
 
 Wednesday August 15
 
 3:00 PM Portsmouth v Man Utd (Set)
 3:00 PM Reading v. Chelsea (FSC)    
 5:00 PM Fulham v. Bolton (FSC Delayed)  
 5:00 PM Champions League Qualifier - Sparta Prague v Arsenal (Set Delayed)
 6:45 PM Man City v Derby (Set Delayed)
 8:30 PM Birmingham v Sunderland (Set Delayed)
 
 Thursday August 16
 
 8:00 PM Uefa Champions League Qualifier - Rangers v Red Star (Set Delayed)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 13, 2007, 09:11:00 pm
and yay for the fact that with my dish package upgrade i have Setanta, Fox Soccer Channel and Gol TV!!
 
 with that, hockey and the sox i may be able to avoid the NFL altogether...save the games being 5 blocks from my house 8 times a year!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 14, 2007, 08:12:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by le sonick:
  and yay for the fact that with my dish package upgrade i have Setanta, Fox Soccer Channel and Gol TV!!
 
Welcome to 2005.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 14, 2007, 09:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by le sonick:
  and yay for the fact that with my dish package upgrade i have Setanta, Fox Soccer Channel and Gol TV!!
 
Welcome to 2005. [/b]
you know, just because i didnt feel the need to pay $100 a month for 300 channels doesnt mean i'm behind the times!!!!!!!
 
 i had the $34.99 package and since i will be home a lot more this fall (home renovations and being completely broke from weddingland) i figured i would just pay the extra $30 and get all the channels.
 
 oh, and dishnetwork is getting 5 more HD channels starting tomorrow. you thought Meerkat Manor was cool before.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 15, 2007, 01:45:00 pm
Just busting your chops....I'm glad you're watching EPL.
 
 Which reminds me: United's Lineup today will feature Nanni, Tevez, Anderson, and Hargreaves.  With 4 guys who've never played together, they'll be lucky to get a draw today as well.
 
 Paging Dr. Mankie.  Paging Dr. Mankie.  Your presence is requested in the footie thread.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 15, 2007, 04:12:00 pm
no! stay away, toon army now outnumbers the prawn sandwich brigade
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 17, 2007, 03:44:00 pm
There were some changes to my previous post.....
 
 Saturday, August 18
 
 7:30 Portsmouth v Bolton Wanderers (Set)
 10:00 Reading v Everton(FSC)
 10:00 Tottenham v Derby (Set)
 12:00 Newcastle v Aston Villa (FSC)
 2:30 Birmingham v West Ham (Set)
 2:30 Wigan v Sunderland (FSC Delay)
 
 Sunday, August 19
 
 8:30 Man City v Man United (Set)
 11:00 Liverpool v Chelsea (FSC)
 2:30 Blackburn v Arsenal (FSC Delay)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 17, 2007, 04:31:00 pm
United's season officially starts on Sunday - They got the pre-season schedule mixed up with the first two games of the season!  ;)
 
 No Rooney is a total bummer, and Ronaldo out for three games doesn't help. It's going to take a while for the new players to fit in, but I predict the Premiership and Champions League for United this season.....Newcastle top 4 and Everton top 6.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 17, 2007, 04:47:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Newcastle top 4
i like that part
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2007, 05:42:00 pm
This will likely end his career....
 
 McBride dislocates knee as Fulham loses
 Updated: Aug. 18, 2007
 Associated Press
 
 
 LONDON -- Brian McBride dislocated his left knee while scoring for Fulham in a 2-1 loss at home to Middlesbrough in the Premier League on Saturday.  
 
 The American striker had no opponent close to him when a cross from Alexei Smertin found him unmarked in the penalty area in the 16th minute. He turned and shot the ball into the net from close range before collapsing.
 
 McBride was treated for several minutes and then carried from the field. He was soon followed to the hospital by teammate Hameur Bouazze, who dislocated his shoulder in the 31st minute.
 
 A late tying goal by Fulham's David Healy was disallowed even through TV replays suggested the ball crossed the line.
 
 "A bad day all round at the office,"' manager Lawrie Sanchez said.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 19, 2007, 10:42:00 am
If this year Chelsea is like a couple years ago where it was so difficult for them to lose any point, then I think Manchester United may have already lost the premiership. I hope it is not the case though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 20, 2007, 10:22:00 am
though, this is my first year checking in with EPL, I wont get too deep into discussion other than to say that Liverpool got completely ripped off this past weekend by poor officiating.  i hope that was a rare occurance cause it was quite frustrating to watch.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 20, 2007, 10:24:00 am
Dear Mankies football friends,
 
 Little Mankie is feeling a bit under the weather at the moment so won't be joining in the conversation for a while.
 
 Yesterday after the final whistle fell, he was heard screaming "LORD TAKE ME NOW" then we heard a bump in his bedroom. When we rushed up to his room he was on the floor in convulsions uttering words such as "Eff'n shity, blue bastards and Sven the twat"
 
 The doctor says little Mankie doing as well as can be expected under the circumstances.
 
 It's a hard time for us all, please pray for him.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Mankie's mum
 Mrs. Mank
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 20, 2007, 11:50:00 am
thanks for letting us know that manc hasnt jumped off a building
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 20, 2007, 12:01:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by le sonick:
  though, this is my first year checking in with EPL, I wont get too deep into discussion other than to say that Liverpool got completely ripped off this past weekend by poor officiating.  i hope that was a rare occurance cause it was quite frustrating to watch.
You are correct, Liverpool were hard done by that call.
 
 The Arsenal-Blackburn match was quite entertaining as well - a very chippy affair.
 
 I'll let Mankie's comments handle the United match.  United dominated everything but the scoreline.  Simply couldn't finish.
 
 The Toon are looking strong - how much do I love watching Alan Smith run around and terrorize people?  I certainly miss his presence with Rooney out.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 20, 2007, 04:58:00 pm
with that midfield, no one is going to want to play newcastle. and this is without barton
 
 i think the toon's main issue is lack of creativity, with the exception of jimmy. might improve when barton and butt come back, or if emre ever decides to play
 
 still might get a couple of right backs before the window closes, which will be a boost
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 20, 2007, 05:04:00 pm
I heard a rumor that Owen subbed late in the match against Villa, but I never saw him out there...  :p
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 20, 2007, 05:11:00 pm
i'm sure he'll get injured for england.  :roll:   i think most supporters see owen as a bonus if he's around, but arent counting on it. to be honest, i think sam agrees
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 20, 2007, 05:25:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  I heard a rumor that Owen subbed late in the match against Villa, but I never saw him out there...   :p  
he did, he came in around 61' or thereabouts.
 
  he got like a standing ovation almost. no clue who he is, haha, but i definitely remember the hoo-ha that was his entrance into the game.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 20, 2007, 05:31:00 pm
I forgot to use my Sarcasm tabs again...
 
 I saw him.  I was pointing out that after waiting almost 2 years for his arrival, he was rather a non-factor throughout the waning moments of the match.  Just a little jibe at the Toon faithful.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 20, 2007, 05:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  I forgot to use my Sarcasm tabs again...
 
 I saw him.  I was pointing out that after waiting almost 2 years for his arrival, he was rather a non-factor throughout the waning moments of the match.  Just a little jibe at the Toon faithful.
of course.  yeah, i was going to add that although he made quite the entrance, i didnt see much of him after that, which made me think "who was that guy anyway"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 20, 2007, 09:30:00 pm
you're really starting from scratch, its cool though
 
 he's kind of like paul kariya except gets hurt more
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 20, 2007, 10:39:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  he's kind of like paul kariya except gets hurt more
Not only did I laugh out loud at this, I actually gave you a small clap as well.  Great analogy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 21, 2007, 09:18:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  with that midfield, no one is going to want to play newcastle. and this is without barton
 
 i think the toon's main issue is lack of creativity, with the exception of jimmy. might improve when barton and butt come back, or if emre ever decides to play
 
 still might get a couple of right backs before the window closes, which will be a boost
The fact that they hired big Sam pretty much confirms that they weren't going for 'creativity'....he's the master of the long ball and bullying tactics, which worked fine for him at Bolton, but creativity just isn't his bag.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2007, 09:22:00 am
he did that at bolton because he could not afford world class creativity. now he can
 
 maybe you're right, but the we'll see
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 21, 2007, 09:34:00 am
Quote of the week....
 
 "Don't hoover up while Chelsea are playing because if you knock the telly, Robben will fall over."
 Former Dutch international Ruud Gullit quotes chaos theory scientists to give his verdict on Chelsea!
 
 (hoover = vacuum)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 21, 2007, 11:43:00 am
good article on adu (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=455314&root=europe&cc=5739&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 21, 2007, 11:52:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  good article on adu (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=455314&root=europe&cc=5739&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
Adufus if you ask me..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 21, 2007, 11:55:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  good article on adu (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=455314&root=europe&cc=5739&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
Adufus if you ask me.. [/b]
well thats pretty much the gist of the article....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2007, 12:04:00 pm
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455386&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455386&cc=5901)
 STAY AWAY   :mad:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2007, 12:10:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455386&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455386&cc=5901)
 STAY AWAY    :mad:  
It's interesting - Fergie has normally stayed away from the African nationals, but in this case, with Rooney returning right as the African Nations Cup starts, it makes a little sense.  I don't see him doing it, but it makes sense.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2007, 12:19:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   Adufus if you ask me..
well thats pretty much the gist of the article.... [/b]
That's a little bit unfair.  
 
 He had been with Benefica for two weeks before that Champions League match - that's a little early to see significant playing time.  
 
 Now, had the article pointed out that he was a little hesitant when he did crack the squad at the 36th minute, it would have been more fair.  By the 70th minute, he was as bad as the rest of the team - that Benefica team looked awful against Copenhagen and I'm not surprised at all the manager was sacked.  Rui Costa was the only Benefica player worth a damn in that match. It was a typical Adu game - a few nice passes on runs down the side, but mostly a little lost in the middle.  He's 18, give him time to adjust to a new league and much better competition.  It was also his first UEFA match - I would have been a little in awe myself.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2007, 12:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455386&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455386&cc=5901)  
 STAY AWAY     :mad:  
It's interesting - Fergie has normally stayed away from the African nationals, but in this case, with Rooney returning right as the African Nations Cup starts, it makes a little sense.  I don't see him doing it, but it makes sense. [/b]
supposedly anelka berbatov and huntelaar are in the mix too, so at least its quality. makes less sense to go for a smaller forward
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2007, 12:39:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  supposedly anelka berbatov and huntelaar are in the mix too, so at least its quality. makes less sense to go for a smaller forward
But any of those three would create a log jam when Rooney and Glass, I mean Saha, return.  Unless Saha is sold (but who'd take him, really), I don't see anyone but Martins making sense.  I think Berbatov was a fallback if Tevez wasn't aquired, and I just don't see United doing that with Tevez and Rooney already on the roster.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2007, 01:08:00 pm
Wednesday, August 22
 
 12:00 Armenia v Portugal Euro Qualifier (Set)
 2:30 Sweden v. USA Friendly (FSC)
 2:45 Belgium v Serbia Euro Qualifier (Set)
 4:45 Russia v Poland Friendly (Set)
 5:00 England v. Germany Friendly (FSC Delayed)
 6:30 Bosnia v Croatia Friendly (Set)
   
 
 Thursday, August 23
 
 5:15 Denmark v Ireland Friendly (Set Delayed)
 
 Two questions:
 
 How long until Owen hurts himself?  I'll make it easy - first half or second half?
 
 If Terry doesn't start and with Gerard out, does McClaren make Becks Captain again?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 22, 2007, 11:54:00 am
still cant believe that england cant seem to get any forwards to start for them besides crouch, owen and rooney, especially with two of those being hurt all the time
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 22, 2007, 12:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  supposedly anelka berbatov and huntelaar are in the mix too, so at least its quality. makes less sense to go for a smaller forward
But any of those three would create a log jam when Rooney and Glass, I mean Saha, return.  Unless Saha is sold (but who'd take him, really), I don't see anyone but Martins making sense.  I think Berbatov was a fallback if Tevez wasn't aquired, and I just don't see United doing that with Tevez and Rooney already on the roster. [/b]
I said it....but Fergie never listened to me. Where is Alan Smith when we really need him?
 
 We should've dumped Saha for 20 quid plus his medical bills and gave the physio a bit of a break, and kept Smith. He never got a chance at United. First of all they play him out of his natural position in midfield to try to fill Keanes boots, then he had that horrendous injury and was shipped out before getting match fit again.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 22, 2007, 12:31:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  I said it....but Fergie never listened to me. Where is Alan Smith when we really need him?
 
I don't think this was all Fergie's doing.  I can remember him saying that he expected Smudge to stay at OT because of all the hard work and support the team put in to rebuilding his knee, but he went on to say that if Smith wanted a first choice starting position, he wouldn't stop him from moving either.  I think Smith might have asked for a transfer and it was granted.
 
 Of course Fergie could have taken the hard line approach like he has with Heinze, but I don't expect Heinze to remain at OT.  I just know he won't be going to Liverpool either.  He's heading back to France.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 22, 2007, 12:41:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  still cant believe that england cant seem to get any forwards to start for them besides crouch, owen and rooney, especially with two of those being hurt all the time
I don't know what you're complaining about - you'll get a first glimpse of Owen and Smith up front.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 22, 2007, 12:57:00 pm
see, as a toon suporter i really dont have a huge problem with it (although i'd like to see jimmy mils get a run out)
 
 as a fan of english football, i dont want to see all of my favorite player's euro chances hanging on players who are always hurt or cant get a game with their club
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 23, 2007, 06:52:00 pm
My thoughts from the past few days....
 
 Micah Richards won't play for City next season.  He might be in Manchester next year, but he won't be wearing blue.
 
 Which has proven to be a bigger problem for England in the last 5-10 years:  Giggs being Welsh or Howard, Keller, Freidel, or (insert any other American keeper here) not being English?
 
 Casper Schmeichel makes me feel old.
 
 I was wrong but right - Heinze went overseas, just not to France.
 
 Spain is the perfect place for the diving Robben.  In hindsight, I'm glad United didn't sign him, though I was pissed when it happened.
 
 That was a blatant push in the US game that led to the Swedish goal.  A very unfortunate result.
 
 Lehmann's not injured.  He's just retarded.
 
 And with that, the next round of games:
 
 Saturday, August 25th
 
 7:30 Sunderland v Liverpool (Set)
 10:00 Chelsea v Portsmouth (Set)
 10:00 Arsenal v Manchester City (FSC)
 12:00 Everton v Blackburn (FSC)  
 4:30 Aston Villa v Fulham (Set Delayed)
 1:30am Derby v Birmingham  (FSC Delayed)  
 
  Sunday, August 26
 
 8:30 Middlesbrough v Newcastle Utd (Set)
 11:00 Manchester United v Tottenham  (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 24, 2007, 04:35:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Which has proven to be a bigger problem for England in the last 5-10 years:  Giggs being Welsh or Howard, Keller, Freidel, or (insert any other American keeper here) not being English?
 
given and keane being irish
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 25, 2007, 09:47:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Which has proven to be a bigger problem for England in the last 5-10 years:  Giggs being Welsh or Howard, Keller, Freidel, or (insert any other American keeper here) not being English?
 
given and keane being irish [/b]
Roy, not Robbie...Robbie would never make the England sqaud.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 25, 2007, 10:41:00 am
roy to manage was my intent there
 
 really, i just wanted to say shay
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 25, 2007, 11:09:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  roy to manage was my intent there
 
 really, i just wanted to say shay
Roy would never manage England even if offered the job...neither would Fergie for that matter.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2007, 11:29:00 am
My hero has retired....
 
   <img src="http://soccernet-akamai.espn.go.com/design05/images/domr/solskjaergoal_g.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 It's going to be quite difficult to convince Smackette to name our first child Ole Gunnar now.....
 
 Manchester United hero Solskjaer reitres
 
 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has brought the curtain down on his glorious playing career with Manchester United - but his Old Trafford days are from over.
 
 After 11 years and 366 appearances for the club he joined for a bargain £1.5million from Norwegian side Molde, Solskjaer has had to finally call it a day due to an ongoing knee injury.
 
 Striker Solskjaer, who famously scored the winner in the Champions League final against Bayern Munich to help the club win the treble in 1999, has made several comebacks in the last four years.
 
 More... (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=457639&cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 28, 2007, 12:02:00 pm
heh, i thought you'd be totally gutted
 
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  roy to manage was my intent there
 
 really, i just wanted to say shay
Roy would never manage England even if offered the job...neither would Fergie for that matter. [/b]
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 really, i just wanted to say shay
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2007, 12:45:00 pm
I nearly forgot that Gol TV has some Champions League matches this season....
 
 Tuesday, August 28
 
 3:00 Liverpool v Toulouse UEFA Champions League 2nd Leg
 
 
 Gol TV is channel 614 on D*TV, 268 on Comcast DC Cable, 407 on Dish Netwok, and 313 on FiOS.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 28, 2007, 01:13:00 pm
Spain international Antonio Puerta has died after suffering a heart attack in his club side Sevilla's 4-1 win against Getafe on Saturday.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6964586.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6964586.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 28, 2007, 01:14:00 pm
Manchester United striker Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has retired from football.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6966229.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6966229.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2007, 01:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Manchester United striker Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has retired from football.
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6966229.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6966229.stm)
Ahem, 4 posts up.  I'm crushed, but it's probably for the better.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 28, 2007, 09:21:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Spain international Antonio Puerta has died after suffering a heart attack in his club side Sevilla's 4-1 win against Getafe on Saturday.
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6964586.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6964586.stm)
Really sad story, poor guy and poor famiy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on August 30, 2007, 02:37:00 am
is this what british research dollars are being spent on - proving the worthlessness of their football exports?!?  :p    
 
  Study: T-rex could outrun David Beckham (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/22/dinosaur.speed.reut/index.html)
 
 LONDON, England (Reuters) -- The smallest dinosaur could reach speeds of nearly 40 miles per hour and even the lumbering Tyrannosaurus rex would have been able to outrun most modern-day sportsmen, according to research published on Wednesday.
 
 Scientists using computer models calculated the top speeds for five meat-eating dinosaurs in a study they say can also illustrate how animals cope with climate change and extinction.
 
 The velociraptor, whose speed and ferocity was highlighted in the film "Jurassic Park", reached 24 miles per hour while the T-rex could muster speeds of up to 18 miles per hour, the study published in the Royal Society's Biological Sciences showed.
 
 "Our research, which used the minimum leg-muscle mass T-rex required for movement, suggests that while not incredibly fast, this carnivore was certainly capable of running and would have little difficulty in chasing down footballer David Beckham, for instance," said Phil Manning, a paleontologist at the University of Manchester, who worked on the study.   Continued... (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/22/dinosaur.speed.reut/index.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 30, 2007, 09:16:00 am
haha scumderland
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 30, 2007, 09:21:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by sweetcell:
  is this what british research dollars are being spent on - proving the worthlessness of their football exports?!?   :p    
 
  Study: T-rex could outrun David Beckham (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/22/dinosaur.speed.reut/index.html)
 
 LONDON, England (Reuters) -- The smallest dinosaur could reach speeds of nearly 40 miles per hour and even the lumbering Tyrannosaurus rex would have been able to outrun most modern-day sportsmen, according to research published on Wednesday.
 
 Scientists using computer models calculated the top speeds for five meat-eating dinosaurs in a study they say can also illustrate how animals cope with climate change and extinction.
 
 The velociraptor, whose speed and ferocity was highlighted in the film "Jurassic Park", reached 24 miles per hour while the T-rex could muster speeds of up to 18 miles per hour, the study published in the Royal Society's Biological Sciences showed.
 
 "Our research, which used the minimum leg-muscle mass T-rex required for movement, suggests that while not incredibly fast, this carnivore was certainly capable of running and would have little difficulty in chasing down footballer David Beckham, for instance," said Phil Manning, a paleontologist at the University of Manchester, who worked on the study.   Continued... (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/22/dinosaur.speed.reut/index.html)
Two minor points here.....Beckham has never been known to be fast, and I bet you this months paycheck a dinosaur cannot pass a ball with the accuracy of Beck's, or a dinosaur has never shagged a Spice Girl...Okay Robbie Williams nailed Ginger, but that's the only one.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 30, 2007, 09:22:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Manchester United striker Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has retired from football.
 
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6966229.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6966229.stm)  
Ahem, 4 posts up.  I'm crushed, but it's probably for the better. [/b]
My apologies, I realized that later but I was in a hurry so just posted the two stories.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 30, 2007, 10:28:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 Two minor points here.....Beckham has never been known to be fast, and I bet you this months paycheck a dinosaur cannot pass a ball with the accuracy of Beck's, or a dinosaur has never shagged a Spice Girl...Okay Robbie Williams nailed Ginger, but that's the only one.
hahaha
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on August 30, 2007, 10:37:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 or a dinosaur has never shagged a Spice Girl...Okay Robbie Williams nailed Ginger, but that's the only one.
might well be post of the week.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 30, 2007, 01:44:00 pm
Champions League Draw:
 
 Group A
 
   Liverpool /  Porto /  Marseille /   Besiktas
   
 Group B
   
   Chelsea /  Valencia /   Schalke /   Rosenborg
 
 Group C
 
   Real Madrid  /  Werder Bremen /  Lazio /  Olympiakos
 
 Group D
 
   AC Milan  /   Benfica /   Celtic /   Shakhtar Donetsk
 
 Group E
 
   Barcelona /  Lyon /   Stuttgart / Rangers
 
 Group F
 
   Manchester United /  Roma /  Sporting Lisbon /   Dynamo Kiev
 
 Group G
 
   Inter Milan /   PSV Eindhoven /   CSKA Moscow /
   Fenerbahce
 
 Group H
 
   Arsenal /   Sevilla or AEK Athens* /   Steaua Bucharest /   Slavia Prague
 
 Thoughts?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 30, 2007, 02:32:00 pm
dont have a dog in this fight, but man u's group looks fairly tough. rangers dont have a prayer (not that they ever do) which makes me happy
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 30, 2007, 05:45:00 pm
United are in the group of death, Chelski and scum get it relatively easy yet again. You have to beat the best to win the final anyway, so bring em on early.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2007, 01:19:00 pm
Saturday, Sept 1
 
 10am Liverpool v Derby County (Set)
 10am Fulham v Tottenham (FSC)
 12pm Manchester United v Sunderland (FSC)
 2:30pm Reading v West Ham (Set)
 4:15pm Middlesbrough v Birmingham City (Set)
 4:30pm Newcastle v Wigan (FCS)  
 
 
 Sunday, Sept 2
 
 8:30am Arsenal v Portsmouth (Set)
 11am Aston Villa v Chelsea (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2007, 01:39:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  United are in the group of death...
How about this schedule for United:
 
 Saturday Sept 15 at Everton
 Wednesday Sept 19 at Sporting Lisbon
 Sunday Sept 23 Home to Chelsea
 
 That's a brutal week.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 31, 2007, 01:49:00 pm
when do they go to kiev? in the winter??
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2007, 02:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  when do they go to kiev? in the winter??
Late October...could have been worse as Kiev play at Old Trafford in early November.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 01, 2007, 09:43:00 am
I see Arseholes signed another frog!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 02, 2007, 02:36:00 pm
VILLA!!! VILLA!!! VILLA!!! VILLLLLAAAAAA!!!
 
   :D    :D    :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on September 05, 2007, 11:12:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  VILLA!!! VILLA!!! VILLA!!! VILLLLLAAAAAA!!!
 
    :D      :D      :D  
OWEN!!! OWEN!!! OWEN!! OWEN!!!!!
 
 
 forget it.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 07, 2007, 08:36:00 am
HEY SMACKIE
 
 how the hell do i watch england tomorrow   :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 08, 2007, 07:04:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  HEY SMACKIE
 
 how the hell do i watch england tomorrow    :(  
Sorry.  It was Pay-per-view only.  You had to order it from DirecTV or go to a bar that will charge you $20 to see the match.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 09, 2007, 11:18:00 am
Or you can do what I did, which was download this BBC HDTV torrent:
 
 http://www.isohunt.com/download/25690512/england+israel (http://www.isohunt.com/download/25690512/england+israel)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 10, 2007, 02:40:00 pm
Wednesday September 12
 
 12pm Euro: Finland v Poland (PPV)
 12:30pm Euro: Slovakia v Wales (FSC)
 1pm Euro: Norway v Greece (PPV)
 2:30pm Euro: Albania v Holland (FSC)
 2:30pm Euro: Czech Republic v Ireland (PPV)
 3pm Euro: England v Russia (PPV)
 3pm Euro: France v Scotland (Set Live - not a pay-per-view event)
 
 Thursday September 13
 
 ALL REPLAYS:
 
 8:30am Euro: Iceland v Northern Ireland (Set)
 10:15am Euro: Turkey v Hungary (Set)
 12pm Euro: Slovakia v Wales (Set)
 1:45pm Euro: Portugal v Serbia (Set)
 3:30pm Euro: Finland v Poland (Set)
 5:15pm Euro: Czech Republic v Ireland
 
 If you could kindly refrain from discussing the Czech/Ireland game until late Thursday I would appreciate it as I will be watching the replay and NOT paying for the PPV.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 10, 2007, 02:48:00 pm
you think at $180 a year, setenta would let me watch ireland and england, but no
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 10, 2007, 03:15:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  you think at $180 a year, setenta would let me watch ireland and england, but no
Setanta's offices are here in SF and I had the pleasure of meeting one of their employees at a business mixer.  When I asked him about that, he said that Setanta started out as a Premium option for bars and signed a lot of long term deals.  
 
 When the option of being a home provider emerged, the bars were upset at paying the fee and spending the money on ads to drive business when many folks would stay home or record the game instead of coming to the bar, so they had to back off the home offerings for the international matches.  He expected it to be this way through Euro 2008 and then it will be negotiated again.
 
 Oh, and I turn Setanta off May 15-Aug 15 to save $50.  This year I may not as Euro 2008 may be on Setanta.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 10, 2007, 03:36:00 pm
i'm going to do that too, unless i get sucked into rugby or something. i think euro 2008 is at least partially on espn
 
 although if i start watching rugby on top of steelers, newcastle, penn state, pens and wiz, my wife may divorce me
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 10, 2007, 04:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  although if i start watching rugby on top of steelers, newcastle, penn state, pens and wiz, my wife may divorce me
Do what I did - send her to medical school!
  You wouldn't believe the free time I have to watch all of those sports and play video games...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on September 10, 2007, 10:42:00 pm
ESPN did buy the rights to Euro 2008.  Now, whether they'll dump it on ESPN Deportes or ESPNU or some other channel no one has, is another question.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 10, 2007, 11:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by You go, Judge Alito:
  ESPN Deportes
That could only be used for Spanish speaking rights, but you are correct and somehow I missed it.  Now if they'd only do it in HD:
 
 ESPN acquires U.S. video rights to UEFA Euro 2008
 
 December 8, 2006
 
 European soccer governing body UEFA has announced that ESPN, Inc. has acquired exclusive video rights in the U.S., in English and Spanish, to UEFA Euro 2008, the European soccer championship.
 
 All 31 matches of UEFA Euro 2008 will air in the U.S. in English, with 2 matches to be broadcast over-the air on ABC and the other 29 matches to air on either ESPN, ESPN2, or ESPN Classic.
 
 ESPN Deportes will air all 31 matches in the U.S. in Spanish.
 
 ESPN outbid the incumbent, Setanta Sports North America, for the video rights in the U.S. Setanta had presented UEFA Euro 2000 and 2004 in the U.S. mostly on pay-per-view with a handful of matches sublicensed to Univision (in 2000) and FOX Sports World (in 2004) for live or same-day delay broadcast.
 
 UEFA also announced that ESPN Latin America will have the pay video rights to all 31 matches of UEFA Euro 2008 throughout Latin America.
 
 UEFA has awarded the video rights to UEFA Euro 2008 in the Indian Subcontinent (India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, The Maldives, Bhutan, and Nepal) to Singapore-based ESPN STAR Sports (ESS), which is managed by NewsCorp's STAR Television under a joint venture agreement with Disney/ESPN. ESS will sublicense a required number of matches to terrestrial broadcasters in the region, which has a population of 1.3 billion.
 
 In the Middle East and Northern Africa, UEFA has awarded the video rights to UEFA Euro 2008 to Arabic-language broadcaster Al Jazeera.
 
 In Hong Kong, UEFA has award the video rights to PCCW (formerly Pacific Century Cyberworks), which operates the NOW Broadband TV service using Internet Protocol Television (IPTV) technology. PCCW had recently outbid incumbent i-Cable for the video rights to the English Premier League (EPL).
 
 In all other countries and territories outside Europe, UEFA has chosen Germany-based sports marketing agency SPORTFIVE to handle the sale of media rights.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 11, 2007, 09:11:00 pm
where is the newcastle/derby match on? i swore it was supposed to be fsc
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 12, 2007, 07:48:00 pm
England v Russia BT (http://www.mininova.org/tor/884355)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2007, 03:57:00 pm
I have no information on The Toon....
 
 Saturday, Sept. 15
 
 7am Everton v Manchester Utd (Set)
 8:30am Tottenham v Arsenal (FSC)  
 9:15am Sunderland v Reading (Set)
 10:30am West Ham v Middlesbrough (FSC)  
 12pm Chelsea v Blackburn (FSC)
 4:30pm Portsmouth v Liverpool (Set)
 
 Sunday, Sept. 16  
 
 11am Manchester City v Aston Villa (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on September 14, 2007, 04:35:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  where is the newcastle/derby match on? i swore it was supposed to be fsc
i looked and i didnt see it anywhere for this week.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2007, 05:17:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by le sonick:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  where is the newcastle/derby match on? i swore it was supposed to be fsc
i looked and i didnt see it anywhere for this week. [/b]
It was on today when I got home from Chicago.  Obviously a delayed telecast.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2007, 05:25:00 pm
Champions League Starts Tomorrow....
 
 Tuesday, September 18
 
 2:40et FC Porto vs. Liverpool FC (ESPN2)
 2:40et Chelsea vs Rosenborg (Set)
 2:40et AC Milan vs Benfica (Set PPV)
 2:40et Shakhtar Donetsk vs Celtic (Set PPV)
 10pm Real Madrid v Werder Bremen (Set Del)
 12am Olympiacos v Lazio (Set Del)
 
 
 Wednesday, September 19
 
 2:40et Sporting Lisbon vs. Manchester United (ESPN2)
 2:40et Arsenal vs Sevilla (Set)
 2:40et Rangers vs VfB Stuttgart (Set PPV)
 8pm Barcelona v Lyon (Set Del)
 10pm Fenerbahce v Inter Milan (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 17, 2007, 10:08:00 pm
bah, newcastle was terrible tonight or so i read
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 18, 2007, 12:19:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bah, newcastle was terrible tonight or so i read
It was on TV too - I watched Kenny Millers goal - and yes, Newcastle were terrible.  Feilhaber did come in for Derby though.  Owen also went out hurt,  they say it's just a groin pull, but this is Owen we're talking about.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 18, 2007, 12:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Wednesday, September 19
 
 
One addendum:
 
 5:00 FC Barcelona vs. Olympique Lyonnais (ESPN Classic)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 18, 2007, 12:42:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bah, newcastle was terrible tonight or so i read
It was on TV too - I watched Kenny Millers goal - and yes, Newcastle were terrible.  Feilhaber did come in for Derby though.  Owen also went out hurt,  they say it's just a groin pull, but this is Owen we're talking about. [/b]
setanta delay or something?
 
 i hate kenny miller so much   :mad:  
 
 sam should have sat mikey after the internationals. i am convinced he would have if the match was saturday instead of monday
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 19, 2007, 01:55:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  setanta delay or something?
 
 i hate kenny miller so much    :mad:  
 
 sam should have sat mikey after the internationals. i am convinced he would have if the match was saturday instead of monday
It was a Monday kickoff and I believe it was live because I was watching it at around noon.  I don't remember if it was Setanta or FSC though.
 
 And yes, Sam should have sat Owen - 3 games in 8 days...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 19, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
I was thinking of doing a running diary of today's United match, but figured many of you might be waiting to watch it when you get home, so I will just tell you this - Celtic called Lisbon a few minutes ago - they'd like their kits back.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 19, 2007, 11:00:00 pm
Finally, a somehow convincing game, 3-0 against Lyon.
 
 A huge surprise, I personally think his years in Chelsea have been more a failure than a success.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7003912.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7003912.stm)
 
 Manager Mourinho leaves Chelsea  
 
 Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho has sensationally left Stamford Bridge by mutual consent, the club has confirmed.
 
 The news comes just 24 hours after the disappointing Champions League draw against Rosenborg.
 
 BBC Radio 5live football correspondent Jonathan Legard understands Mourinho texted senior players, including skipper John Terry, with the news.
 
 Mourinho joined Chelsea in the summer of 2004 and led them to the Premiership title in each of his first two seasons.
 
 Last season they finished runners-up to Manchester United but won both the FA Cup and Carling Cup, a trophy they had also collected in 2005.
 
 His achievements also saw him voted as Premiership manager of the year in 2005 and 2006.
 
 However the Champions League trophy eluded the club and this season's campaign started with Tuesday's shock 1-1 result against the Norwegians in front of a crowd of just 24,973.
 
 It was their third successive game without a win following a 2-0 defeat at Aston Villa and a goalless draw with Blackburn in the Premier League.
 
 Those results have left Chelsea fifth in the table - two points behind leaders Arsenal and with a visit to Manchester United to come on Sunday.
 
 He did have one unique record during his reign in never losing a home league game at Stamford Bridge.
 
 Mourinho signed a five-year contract in 2005 and quashed speculation in January that he would leave Stamford Bridge in the summer by saying he was happy to see out his deal if he received "real support" from the club.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 19, 2007, 11:25:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Manager Mourinho leaves Chelsea  
 
I just saw that.  HOLY SHIT!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on September 20, 2007, 12:28:00 am
what smackie said!! makes the game on sunday even more intriguing
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Manager Mourinho leaves Chelsea  
 
I just saw that.  HOLY SHIT!!! [/b]
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on September 20, 2007, 10:33:00 am
man, that Barcelona team looked like they were in a different league than whoever those clowns were they played yesterday. sheesh.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 20, 2007, 10:57:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by le sonick:
  man, that Barcelona team looked like they were in a different league than whoever those clowns were they played yesterday. sheesh.
Thanks Sonick! However, Barcelona has started the season very poorly in the Spanish league and everything is criticism, even after yesterday's game. Everyone, especially Ronaldinho, is being criticized. If they get back in shape, they might be too strong to beat, even the bench with these young players like the Mexican Giovani, Bojan, or Iniesta is impressive.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 21, 2007, 09:49:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Manager Mourinho leaves Chelsea  
 
I just saw that.  HOLY SHIT!!! [/b]
Who predicted this train wreck when the rich Russian bought them?????
 
 They'll be like rats leaving a sinking ship come January.
 
 Drogba to Milan
 Lampard somewhere in Spain
 
 I can see Morono ending up at Spurs actually
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 21, 2007, 01:04:00 pm
Saturday, September 22
 
 10am Liverpool v Birmingham (Set)
 10am Arsenal v Derby (FSC)  
 12pm Fulham v Manchester City (FSC)
 4:30pm  Middlesbrough v Sunderland (FSC)  
 
 
 Sunday, September 23
 
 8:30am Newcastle Utd v West Ham (Set)
 11:00am Manchester United v Chelsea (FSC)
 4:30pm Aston Villa v Everton  (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 25, 2007, 04:38:00 pm
Wow - no comments about the thrashing of the London minnows by the mighty Man Utd....I bet chelski were intimidated by playing in front of a sold out stadium for a change.
 
 Did anyone read how arseholes are now having a go at them  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7011751.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7011751.stm)
 
 Not only will they never be the biggest club in the world, they won't ever be the biggest club in their own city.
 
 BTW Toon fans - how's Mikey "ow, me fuck'n knee" Owen working out for you?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 25, 2007, 05:12:00 pm
HIS PROPER NAME IS MICHAEL OWEN
 
 and its the groin this time  ;)
 
 league cup aside, its going to be worse for country than club
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 25, 2007, 05:21:00 pm
Sorry Mank, brennser and I were chatting about it in the vansmack rollcall thread.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 25, 2007, 05:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  HIS PROPER NAME IS MICHAEL OWEN
 
 and its the groin this time    ;)  
 
 league cup aside, its going to be worse for country than club
The groin bone is connected to the knee bone!    ;)
 
 BTW, here's my take on the game..yes, I actually got to see it now I've changed jobs.
 
 The red card was a red card offense - I'm just surprised he flashed the red card in such a 'big game' Joe Cole's was far worse but he stayed on the field, but there's no way he was going to send two of them off. Terry should've also gotten a red for hacking Rooney down, but he got the yellow instead.
 
 The penalty call was a little weak admittedly, but he missed two definate penalties earlier on so it was probably a make up call by the ref.
 
 Tevez's goal in the 3rd minute of injury time when the 4th official said 2 minutes was a good call. You can't blow the whistle with the ball out of play and he scored right off the corner, then the extra few seconds was to make up the time lost while setting up the corner...it's really quite simple.
 
 I'm surprised it was as one sided as it was to be honest. I thought chelski would've put up more of a fight, and when they resorted to filthy tactics it was all over at that point.
 
 Finally, other than the goal, what did Tevez do? I must admit, I'm not a fan...yet.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 26, 2007, 10:22:00 am
i dunno, half of the chelsea side have got to be absolutely gutted that maureen is gone. supposedly fat frank was crying in the showers or something. drogba wants out too, and ronnie is rumored to be coming in. chelsea are interesting off the pitch, at least
 
 new chairman has been saying newcastle were close to pulling a leeds before mike ashley made his bid.    :eek:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 26, 2007, 10:35:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i dunno, half of the chelsea side have got to be absolutely gutted that maureen is gone. supposedly fat frank was crying in the showers or something. drogba wants out too, and ronnie is rumored to be coming in. chelsea are interesting off the pitch, at least
 
 new chairman has been saying newcastle were close to pulling a leeds before mike ashley made his bid.     :eek:  
HIS PROPER NAME IS MICHAEL ASHLEY
 
 There's no way Toon was going to do a Leeds, the local council wouldn't have allowed it. What would the Geordies do for two hours every Saturday afternoon? Those 2 hours are needed so the pubs can clean up and change the barrels, and so their wives can cover some of the bruises before the next round of domestics start
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 26, 2007, 10:48:00 am
and that's different from leeds how?   ;)  
 
 honestly i dont know how much of it is true, but its tough to give fat freddy the benefit of the doubt (yes, i know his proper name is frederick)
 
 i was just trying to enforce the mike/mikey/michael owen rule someone layed down a few pages back...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 26, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  and that's different from leeds how?    ;)  
 
 
...because in Leeds it would be the men covering up their bruises.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 28, 2007, 04:46:00 pm
While it's not going to be the same as watching the match with a 1 year old wearing the same clothes as me, this is what I'm watching this weekend at home:
 
 Saturday, Sept. 29
 
 7:30am Manchester City v Newcasle Utd (Set)
 10am Chelsea v Fulham  (FSC)
 10am West Ham v Arsenal (Set)
 12pm Birmingham v Manchester United (FSC)
 9pm Wigan v Liverpool (Set Delayed)
 2am Portsmouth v Reading (FSC Delayed)  
 
 Sunday, Sept. 30
 
 11 a.m. Everton v Middlesbrough (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 01, 2007, 07:32:00 pm
UEFA Champions League - Match Day 2
 
 Tuesday, October 2
 
 2:45pm Manchester United v AS Roma (ESPN2 Live)
 2:45pm Steaua v Arsenal (Set LIVE)
 5pm Stuttgart v Barcelona (Set Delay)
 5pm Dynamo Kiev v Sporting (ESPN Classic Delay)
 
 
 Wednesday, October 3
 
 2:45pm Liverpool v Olympique de Marseille (ESPN2 Live)
 2:45pm Valencia v Chelsea (Set LIVE)
 5pm Lazio v Real Madrid (ESPN Classic and Set Delay)
 6:45pm Besiktas v Porto (Set Delay)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 02, 2007, 05:52:00 pm
Well, yet another 1-0 victory for United. The good news is they're still winning and they haven't got it quite together yet, and Rooney is off the mark so he should start banging them in now.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2007, 06:12:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Well, yet another 1-0 victory for United.
Yep, not the best home performance by United, but the midfield looks strong at the back line, and is definitely struggling going forward.  Rooney was very vocal this match about the distribution of ball going forward.
 
 Nonetheless, top of the table and not much to argue with.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 02, 2007, 06:13:00 pm
Barcelona seems to start playing decently. Surprise in France though, can't recall the last time when a Scottish team won with such authority an away-game in the Champions League.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2007, 06:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
   Surprise in France though, can't recall the last time when a Scottish team won with such authority an away-game in the Champions League.
DeMarcus Beasley with a goal as well!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 02, 2007, 07:06:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Barcelona seems to start playing decently. Surprise in France though, can't recall the last time when a Scottish team won with such authority an away-game in the Champions League.
Don't get used to it.
 
 Actually, Scotland recently beat France in Paris.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 03, 2007, 09:00:00 am
bummer, i hate rangers
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 03, 2007, 09:32:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bummer, i hate rangers
Why would scottish football generate such a strong feeling? That's like saying you hate the little league team your neighbours kid plays for.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 03, 2007, 12:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bummer, i hate rangers
Why would scottish football generate such a strong feeling? [/b]
Maybe he's Catholic.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 03, 2007, 12:46:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bummer, i hate rangers
Why would scottish football generate such a strong feeling? [/b]
Maybe he's Catholic. [/b]
hmmmm, I wonder how many catholics play for celtic?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 03, 2007, 12:47:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bummer, i hate rangers
Why would scottish football generate such a strong feeling? That's like saying you hate the little league team your neighbours kid plays for. [/b]
if the second place team from my neighbor's little league team got in the champions league, then yes i'd hate them too
 
 for the record, i dont like celtic either and i am not religious
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 03, 2007, 04:45:00 pm
Scum lost - that's made my day!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 04, 2007, 10:19:00 am
hey smackie, why does the setanta feed come through so shitty. and why is the cl not in hd on espn2hd
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 04, 2007, 12:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hey smackie, why does the setanta feed come through so shitty. and why is the cl not in hd on espn2hd
Setanta doesn't actually broadcast themselves.  They pick up the feed from other distributors and put it through their satelites so their picture depends (1) the source feed and (2) how it's converted.
 
 As for ESPN - they didn't buy the HD rights.  There was a rumor that the semi's and final were to be in HD, but it didn't happen.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 04, 2007, 12:34:00 pm
if i had mike ashley money i'd buy setanta and make it so it didnt suck
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 04, 2007, 03:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  if i had mike ashley money i'd buy setanta and make it so it didnt suck
At $15 a month, I predict Setanta will be in HD before FSC and this will all be fixed.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 04, 2007, 04:42:00 pm
i would allow you to run it so this would happen
 
 i knew i didnt have time to watch all of the el ameripool match last night but i really wanted to check out some footie action in HD. i was crushed    :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: BookerT on October 04, 2007, 04:59:00 pm
i clicked on this thread once, saw it was about "football" and never clicked in again until now. but i'm going to london in a few weeks and got tickets to a fulham/derby county match while i'm there. anything i should know?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 04, 2007, 05:03:00 pm
fulham has a shitload of americans
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 05, 2007, 09:37:00 am
Derby are shite, so Fulham will most likely win.
 
 I'm wondering if all the doodles in the Fulham squad is just coincidence or is there a larger plan to try to establish Fulham with the football watching American?? Pretty smart move if it is, because they aren't compromising in the quality of the players.
 
 America produces good players, your coaches leave a lot to be desired though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: BookerT on October 05, 2007, 10:07:00 am
fulham was the only team that i didn't have to be the member of, like, 4 different clubs to be able to purchase tickets. there were still a few hoops to jump through, but nothing too bad. the stadium looks pretty excellent.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 06, 2007, 10:38:00 am
Saturday October 6
 
 4:30am Manchester Utd v Wigan Athletic (Set)
 7:00am Aston Villa v West Ham (Set)
 
 Sunday October 7
 
 4:00am Arsenal v Sunderland (Set)
 7:00am Bolton v Chelsea (Set)
 10:00am Liverpool v Tottenham (FSC)  
 4:00pm Newcastle v Everton (Set Delayed)
 5:00pm Fulham v Portsmouth (FSC Delayed)
 7:00pm Manchester City v Middlesbrough (Set Delayed)
 11:00pm Blackburn v Birmingham (FSC Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 06, 2007, 11:15:00 am
Looks like United have started to find the back of the net....4-0!
 
 OMFG!!!!! England 12 Australia 10, rugby world  cup quarter final. I know most don't give a rats, but I had to shout it somewhere and I'm at work right now!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 06, 2007, 02:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  OMFG!!!!! England 12 Australia 10, rugby world  cup quarter final. I know most don't give a rats, but I had to shout it somewhere and I'm at work right now!!!
I'm with Argentina on this one.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 06, 2007, 05:38:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  OMFG!!!!! England 12 Australia 10, rugby world  cup quarter final. I know most don't give a rats, but I had to shout it somewhere and I'm at work right now!!!
I'm with Argentina on this one. [/b]
HOLY CRAP!! New Zealand 18 France 20, What a weekend of rugby. who would've predicted England v France for the semi final after looking at the quarter finals line ups this morning?....I'd say the winner of that semi is the world champion, but who knows after todays results? Just proves that anybody can beat anybody on the day.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 08, 2007, 08:58:00 am
i wonder if big sam's finally going to realize that 1) alan smith is not a midfielder and 2) he's better than dukes and a mile better than shola
 
 also, he's marginally insane
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 08, 2007, 09:21:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i wonder if big sam's finally going to realize that 1) alan smith is not a midfielder and 2) he's better than dukes and a mile better than shola
 
 also, he's marginally insane
Who knows? Fergie couldn't figure that out so not much hope of dumb old  big Sam realizing he's a striker.....why United got rid of him I'll never understand. Rooney and Smith up front would put the fear of God in any defence.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 08, 2007, 09:44:00 am
i thought he was going to fight nicky butt for the captain arm band after geremi came off
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 08, 2007, 10:32:00 am
I was really hoping Spurs could gut out a win over Pool yesterday.....oh well
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 08, 2007, 11:09:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i thought he was going to fight nicky butt for the captain arm band after geremi came off
That was odd, to say the least.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 08, 2007, 11:13:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  I was really hoping Spurs could gut out a win over Pool yesterday.....oh well
Robbie Keane can make the most out of nothing time and time again - he just can't fix the back four.  Torres should never have beaten both defenders in the air in added time - that's just a lack of will and desire - a Spurs trademark.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 08, 2007, 11:28:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i thought he was going to fight nicky butt for the captain arm band after geremi came off
That was odd, to say the least. [/b]
yeah, i though you could see germani say 'nicky' when he came off and then rozenhal say 'nicky' when he gave it to him...dunno it was weird
 
 stupid ashton and johnson out for england. bet we'll see mike and al despite the injuries. oh wait i cant watch england   :mad:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 16, 2007, 07:32:00 pm
Wednesday, Oct 17 - Euro Qualifiers
 
 9:55am Kazakhstan vs Portugal (Set)
 10:55am Russia vs England (SET Pay per view)
 12:55 Georgia vs Scotland (Set)
 1:25 Turkey vs Greece (SET PPV)
 2:25 Ireland vs Cyprus (Set PPV)
 2:30 Switzerland vs USA (FSC - Friendly)
 2:45 Germany vs Czech Republic (Set)
 4:30 France vs Lithuania (FSC Del)
 6:30 Sweden vs Northern Ireland (FSC Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 17, 2007, 04:30:00 pm
maybe its not so bad that i cant watch england or ireland  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 19, 2007, 01:43:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  maybe its not so bad that i cant watch england or ireland    :(  
It's totally going to ruin my trip to Austria and Switzerland for Euro 2008 though.
 
 Say it with me..."HOP HOLLAND!!!"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 19, 2007, 02:02:00 pm
Saturday, October 20
 
 7:45am Everton v Liverpool (Set)  
 10:00am Arsenal v Bolton (Set)
 10:00am Middlesbrough v Chelsea (FSC)
 10:00am Manchester City v Birmingham City (Set Extra - DirecTV channel 670)
 12:00pm Aston Villa v Man United (FSC)
 4:30pm Blackburn v Reading (FSC Del)
 
 Sunday, October 21
 
 11:00am West Ham v Sunderland
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 19, 2007, 02:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  maybe its not so bad that i cant watch england or ireland     :(    
It's totally going to ruin my trip to Austria and Switzerland for Euro 2008 though.
 
 Say it with me..."HOP HOLLAND!!!" [/b]
i dont know who i'll support now, i dont think any toon players will make it
 
 thank god for the prem
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 19, 2007, 02:50:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  maybe its not so bad that i cant watch england or ireland     :(    
It's totally going to ruin my trip to Austria and Switzerland for Euro 2008 though.
 
 Say it with me..."HOP HOLLAND!!!" [/b]
Didn't you go already to see the last World Cup? If so, I would certainly try to see one final of the Champions League, the atmosphere in those games is much better than in the Euro or World Cup.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 19, 2007, 03:07:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Didn't you go already to see the last World Cup? If so, I would certainly try to see one final of the Champions League, the atmosphere in those games is much better than in the Euro or World Cup.
It's kind of a long trip for one game.  But if United makes a Champ's League final, I'll get over there.
 
 That's why these Euro/World tourney's are great - a ton of games scattered throughout a dozen or so cities.  It's a combination of a lot of football and a touring vacation.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 22, 2007, 12:35:00 pm
Monday, October 22
 
 3:00 Newcastle v Tottenham (set)
 
 
 I don't know why I keep forgetting to post the Monday match.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 22, 2007, 04:10:00 pm
i dont know why the toon keeps on playing these damn things. i like my sports on the weekend, thanks. i hope my dvr worked out its issues and recorded it as well
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 22, 2007, 07:24:00 pm
EUFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE - MATCHDAY 3
 
 Tuesday, October 23
 
 2:45pm Dynamo Kiev v Manchester Utd (Set)
 2:45pm Rangers v Barcelnoa (ESPN2)
 4:45pm Arsenal v Slavia (Set Del)
 5pm Dynamo Kiev v Manchester Utd (ESPN Classic Del)
 6:30pm Roma v Sporting (Set Del)
 
 
 Wednesday, October 24
 
 2:45pm Besiktas v Liverpool (Set)
 2:45pm Chelsea v. Schalke (ESPN2)
 4:45pm Real Madrid v Olympiacos (Set Del)
 5pm Real MAdrid v Olympiakos (ESPN Classic Del)
 6:30pm Marseille v Porto (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 23, 2007, 11:57:00 am
so does jol want sacked?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 23, 2007, 12:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so does jol want sacked?
Boy it sure looked that way...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: BookerT on October 23, 2007, 12:23:00 pm
so that fulham/darby match i went to on saturday predictably ended 0-0. a little disappointing, especially because the rugby final later that night was pretty much a snoozer, too. but fulham's got a nice stadium, that's for sure. depressing week for english sports while i was over there between the rugby loss, the loss to russia and hamilton's F1 letdown. they even planned a parade and everything.
 
 and back to that england/russia match, that sure was one awful call on the rooney foul. i watched it from in one of the many ladbroke's all around. so much gambling...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 23, 2007, 12:27:00 pm
yeah, berbatov looked like he was going to explode. i remember last year reading that he grew up wearing a newcastle shirt and patterned his game after shearer and looks forward to playing against the toon. so he gets benched. yikes
 
 does lennon have a knock? cant figure out why he didnt come on for bale
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 23, 2007, 03:33:00 pm
Can I just tell you how much I love my Slingbox on Champions league matchdays?  No better way to pass the lunch hour...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 10:33:00 am
where mank to laugh at el doodlepool
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 12:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  where mank to laugh at el doodlepool
They looked so bad that I'm thinking of not waking up early to watch them take on Arseanl this weekend live.  They are struggling...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 25, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  where mank to laugh at el doodlepool
They looked so bad that I'm thinking of not waking up early to watch them take on Arseanl this weekend live.  They are struggling... [/b]
5til law9hi4g t2 4ard t0 ty6e an4thin9 co4eren7
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 12:23:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  5til law9hi4g t2 4ard t0 ty6e an4thin9 co4eren7
And people say you're getting old and have lost your touch - pfft.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 12:26:00 pm
rafa's gotta be sweating even more than usual. dropping the arse match would make me even happier
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 12:30:00 pm
Can we talk about Arsenal playing 11 of their first 15 matches in London, for just a second?
 
 That's simply ridiculous and is a large part of why they're top of the table.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 12:42:00 pm
bound to happen when you have a quarter of the league from one city
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 12:47:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bound to happen when you have a quarter of the league from one city
OK - but of those 11 matches, only one was on the road (at Tottenham).  The rest were at Emirates Stadium.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 12:56:00 pm
at west ham too
 
 but i agree, that's too many home games. however, newcastle has yet to play a big 4 team outside of the league cup, so i'm not complaining   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 01:06:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  at west ham too
 
 
I wasn't even counting that match!  12 out of 15!  Ridiculous.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 01:35:00 pm
if id complain about anything its the 8 fixtures that the toon plays in december. but if i have the week between christmas and new years off again, this would make me really happy
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 05:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so does jol want sacked?
Boy it sure looked that way... [/b]
SPOILER ALERT (will contain Tottenham Score)
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 Tottenham Hotspur's 2-1 defeat at home to Getafe in the UEFA Cup proved to be Martin Jol's last game in charge at White Hart Lane after he tendered his resignation ahead of the game. Reports first suggested the embattled Dutchman has been sacked by an increasingly dissatisfied Spurs board, but reports suggest Jol jumped before he was pushed.
 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/index?cc=5739 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/index?cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 05:07:00 pm
rumors already have ramos in
 
 is that even possible? isnt he tied to sevilla
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 05:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  rumors already have ramos in
 
 is that even possible? isnt he tied to sevilla
He was the guy Chelsea were rumored to be after.  I can't see Tottenham out spending Chelsea to buy Sevilla's allegiance.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 05:13:00 pm
i actually favored ramos over big sam last spring. i guess i'd rather he made chelsea fun to watch
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 25, 2007, 05:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  rumors already have ramos in
 
 is that even possible? isnt he tied to sevilla
Ramos is in - I think Ireland should at least strongly consider Jol for their now vacant job as well - I'm a big Jol fan
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 05:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
  Ramos is in
They're about to advance in the Champions League, and he leaves them?  Amazing...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 05:33:00 pm
they arent doing well in the league. got to get the pay day
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 05:41:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  they arent doing well in the league. got to get the pay day
Admittedly, since Becks came to America, Smackette has spared me from watching La Liga and I didn't realize they were struggling in Spain.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 08:44:00 pm
i knew that from reading it somewhere. i'll watch real/barca if i remember, though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 25, 2007, 10:53:00 pm
Sevilla is still struggling after the death of Puerta at the end of August. They should be back in the top positions by Christmas, but who knows these teams sometimes can't seem to be able to deal with the expectations raised by the fans after a good season. However, they pretty much are in the next phase of the Champions League, so it would be surprising if Ramos left now.
 
 As for games in Spain, besides the Madrid Barcelona, you should always pay attention to the Valencia Barcelona, always crazy games. The Valencia Madrid and the games of the two big with Sevilla should be fun to watch. There are other very decent teams that in England could be in the top 5 or 6 such as Atletico Madrid, Zaragoza or Villareal (by the way Robert Pires is playing really well this season).
 
 By the way, I have always liked Totenham, my team in London.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 26, 2007, 10:39:00 am
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  (by the way Robert Pires is playing really well this season).
 
 
That's because he's not playing in the mans league anymore, the big girls blouse.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 26, 2007, 01:04:00 pm
Saturday, October 27
 
 10:00am Man United vs Middlesbrough (Set)
 10:00am Chelsea v Man City (FSC)  
 12:00pm Portsmouth v West Ham (FSC)
 4:15pm Sunderland v Fulham (Set Del)  
 4:30pm Reading v Newcastle (FSC Del)
 6:00pm 7:45am Birmingham v Wigan (Set del)
 
 Sunday, October 28
 
 9:30am Bolton v Aston Villa (Set)
 11:00am Tottenham v Blackburn (Set Xtra)
 12:00pm Liverpool v Arsenal (FSC)
 
 
 No Monday game this week.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 26, 2007, 01:41:00 pm
good weekend of matches. too bad my dvr doesnt want to record 2 things at once
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 26, 2007, 01:45:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  good weekend of matches. too bad my dvr doesnt want to record 2 things at once
I don't post replay times, but Setanta replays every match later in the day if it's better suited for your DVR.  FSC replays are not always on the same day, but some are.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 26, 2007, 02:28:00 pm
well hopefully i can catch the arse/pool match before i get spoiled
 
 think i may have to watch shitty over usa though   :o
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 27, 2007, 12:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  well hopefully i can catch the arse/pool match before i get spoiled
 
 think i may have to watch shitty over usa though    :o  
So how did that shitty game work out for you?
 
 6-0, oh that's fucking priceless.   :D    :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 28, 2007, 12:43:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  think i may have to watch shitty over usa though    :o  
Well, I might start watching the FSC game no matter who's playing next time.  Setanta has taken it upon themselves to update the rest of the Premiership every 4 minutes during their morning match.  They even update the matches they're going to show later in the day.  Ruined my whole afternoon.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 29, 2007, 09:51:00 am
that's like my worst fear come true
 
 actually woke up late and started the shitty/chelski match late. i watched the first 4 goals and then fast forwarded. made it pretty entertaining, actually
 
 toon were shit. why start 4 central mids and no target man?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 29, 2007, 03:14:00 pm
Scholes Out 3 Months
 
 Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes will have a knee operation on Thursday and is expected to be out of action for three months.The 32-year-old reported the injury during training prior his side's Champions League win over Dynamo Kiev on Tuesday.
 
  http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=477078&cc=5739 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=477078&cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 29, 2007, 04:30:00 pm
We just get Hargreaves back and down goes Scholes!! oh the frustration. I think we have much stronger strength in depth this season so should be okay. We need to get shot of that Lladro figurine Saha. My God, he's broken more times than the new S class Benz. Maybe toon will take him, they seem to go for defective strikers!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 29, 2007, 04:41:00 pm
we'll take rooney, saha would be too cheap
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 29, 2007, 06:17:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  we'll take rooney, saha would be too cheap
Shrek is going nowhere!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 30, 2007, 05:29:00 pm
Great.  Now I have to decide if I want to be divorced before I go to the World Cup in Brazil, or just wait until I return home and tell her how much fun I had...
 
 Brazil to host 2014 World Cup
 Associated Press
 
 ZURICH, Switzerland -- Brazil was chosen host of the 2014 World Cup on Tuesday, returning the showcase event to the soccer-mad country that held the tournament in 1950 and has captured the title a record five times.  
 
 Brazil was the only candidate and won in a unanimous vote by the executive committee of the sport's governing body.
 
 More... (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=477307&cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 30, 2007, 06:13:00 pm
So nobody else even bid for it in 2014?
 
 Do you think the home nation will be favourites?
 
 When a country that size only plays one fucking sport they better be good at it.
 
 Oh it would be sweet if someone other than Brasil won it in 2014.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 31, 2007, 11:19:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  So nobody else even bid for it in 2014?
 
 Do you think the home nation will be favourites?
 
 When a country that size only plays one fucking sport they better be good at it.
 
 Oh it would be sweet if someone other than Brasil won it in 2014.
i guess not
 
 yes, arent they always
 
 totally
 
 and yes, only if its england (or ireland but that wont happen)  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 01, 2007, 02:23:00 pm
Saturday, November 3
 
 8:30am Arsenal vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 11:00am Newcastle vs. Portsmouth (FSC)  
 11:00am Wigan Athletic vs. Chelsea (Set)
 1:00pm Blackburn vs. Liverpool (FSC Del)  
 1:00pm Middlesbrough vs. Tottenham (Set Del)
 5:30pm Fulham v Reading (FSC DEl)  
 
 Sunday, November 4
 
 11:00am West Ham vs. Bolton (FSC)
 
 Monday, November 5
 
 2:00pm Manchester City vs. Sunderland (Set - KO 2:45pm)
 
 
 Rough week to not have Setanta, and shocker, Aresenal is at home.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 01, 2007, 02:31:00 pm
no way you get toon at home!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 03, 2007, 11:12:00 am
miserable jammie fucking french twats..equalize with the last kick of the match yet again.
 
 Mind you, at least it was in the first couple of minutes of added time, Webb would've kept the game going all afternoon until they scored.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 03, 2007, 12:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  miserable jammie fucking french twats..equalize with the last kick of the match yet again.
 
 Mind you, at least it was in the first couple of minutes of added time, Webb would've kept the game going all afternoon until they scored.
I'm exhausted and I've only been awake for two hours....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 05, 2007, 10:09:00 am
i was pretty exhausted and a bit hung over when i watched the toon match, and it did little to lighten my mood. mike owen does not look interested, but its at least he got out of bed, which is more than i can say for cacapa. what the hell was taylor doing at rb. wonder about sam's selections more and more
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 05, 2007, 11:27:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i was pretty exhausted and a bit hung over when i watched the toon match, and it did little to lighten my mood. mike owen does not look interested, but its at least he got out of bed, which is more than i can say for cacapa. what the hell was taylor doing at rb. wonder about sam's selections more and more
I'm sure Mike wants to be at a blg club. He sees all his England pals playing for the top teams and it must get him down.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 05, 2007, 11:39:00 am
no 'big' club wants him, they all could have got have got him at a cut rate during the summer and no one stepped up. rumor now has been him going to man city, maybe liverpool will want him if they sack rafa
 
 really, there's more of a market for martins, and frankly toon plays better when he's on the pitch
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 05, 2007, 12:02:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  no way you get toon at home!
After seeing Toon's home form, I now see why the "revolution" hasn't been televised.  That was an abysmal 3 minute stretch.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 05, 2007, 12:10:00 pm
newcastle seems to play well on setenta, i blame rupert murdoch
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 05, 2007, 02:36:00 pm
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE MATCHDAY 4
 
 Tuesday, November 6
 
 2:45pm FC Schalke vs. Chelsea (Set)
 2:45pm Liverpool FC vs. Besiktas (ESPN2)
 5:00pm Olympiacos vs. Real Madrid (ESPN Classic Del)
 5:00pm Porto vs. Marseille (Set Del)
 6:45pm Lazio vs. Werder Bremen (Set Del)
 
 Wednesday, November 7
 
 2:45pm Manchester United vs. Dynamo Kyiv (ESPN 2)
 2:45pm Slavia Prague vs. Arsenal (Set)
 5:00pm Barcelona vs. Rangers (ESPN Classic Del)
 5:00pm Sporting vs. Roma (Set Del)
 6:45pm Inter Milan vs. CSKA Moscow (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 06, 2007, 02:40:00 pm
Between 15,000 and 20,000 supporters of Rangers expected to arrive to Barcelona today and tomorrow morning. Only 6,000 of those with a ticket for the game. Their particular party has already started.
 
   <img src="http://www.sport.es/vivo/recursos/fotos/foto_251944_CAS.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 06, 2007, 05:31:00 pm
The Liverpool match was simply ridiculous.  For those that recorded it and hoped to watch it later, I'll refrain from any more commentary for a little while.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 06, 2007, 05:37:00 pm
i stopped recording espn2 matches when i realized they werent in hd
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 06, 2007, 05:40:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i stopped recording espn2 matches when i realized they werent in hd
That's awesome.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 06, 2007, 05:46:00 pm
i was really crushed the first time i went to watch a recorded match. the group stages dont really interest me that much as a fan without any loyalties, but i would watch every espn2 match if it was in hd.
 
 by the way, fsc hints on their website that they may start picking up hd feeds
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 06, 2007, 06:46:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  The Liverpool match was simply ridiculous.  For those that recorded it and hoped to watch it later, I'll refrain from any more commentary for a little while.
How can you call yourself a true United fan and watch that pond scum? (unless they're getting a thrashing of course)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 06, 2007, 07:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  How can you call yourself a true United fan and watch that pond scum? (unless they're getting a thrashing of course)
It was either watch that or do work, Mank, so I opted to sit at my desk and slingbox the Liverpool match while I ate my lunch.  At half of the Pool match, I switched to the Schalke/Chelsea match, but I couldn't stomach watching Schalke miss another glorious opportunity to take the lead.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 06, 2007, 07:23:00 pm
I wonder if Mankie has anything to say about this...
 
 Updated: Nov. 6, 2007
 Fergie support for Blatter stance on imports
 
 Sir Alex Ferguson believes clubs should be seen to have 'a proportion of home-based players' - and feels rivals Arsenal would 'protest the loudest' at such a rule.
 
 FIFA president Sepp Blatter has announced he will lobby for restrictions on the number of foreign players in each team and Ferguson has voiced his support.
 
 'It's certainly not wrong that clubs should be seen to have a proportion of home-based players,' the Manchester United manager said.
 
 'I totally agree (with Blatter) but it would be a problem for a club like Arsenal. That's why they'll protest the loudest.
 
 'You want to protect your own, and there is nothing wrong with that. But, for the good of the game in England, it would be good to see more home-based players at the top clubs.
 
 'United's critics would say `It's all right for you, you already have English players in your side'. But I think if you asked a neutral, they would rather see more home-based players.'
 
 He added: 'Under the present Treaty of Rome you couldn't make it law. It would have to be an agreement between the clubs. But if it went to a vote, I think it would get through [even though] there would be opposition from clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal, who have strong Spanish and French connections.
 
 'It would certainly be a contentious issue but I agree with the principle of it.'
 
 In an interview in the club magazine, Inside United, Ferguson also called for agents to be more strictly regulated to prevent money flowing out of the game.
 
 'I think we need a tariff for agents that brings them in line with other professions, like lawyers or accountants,' he added.
 
 'Agents need to be regulated in a far stricter way than they have been in the past.
 
 'They are a very lucky breed because as long as you have greedy club presidents, agents will always be in the driving seat. But if world football recognises the need for regulation, that would make a real difference.
 
 'The set up has to be more professional.'
 
 Wenger has also expressed his views on the topic in Arsenal's club magazine, and feels no coach 'at the highest level' would think it is a good idea.
 
 'I find the whole proposal completely ridiculous,' he said.
 
 'The thinking behind it, I believe, is to protect the national teams. But it won't protect the best players, it will protect the mediocre ones and you don't win a World Cup with mediocre players, you win it with world-class ones.
 
 'The best English players - the Rooneys, the Owens, the Gerrards, the Lampards - they are all playing for their clubs anyway.
 
 'FIFA are wrong if they think this will improve international football. Look at rugby for example. The Argentina national team - all their players play in Europe, and the national team takes advantage of that. Had they all stayed in Argentina, would they have made the semi-finals? To mix the best with the best makes everyone better.
 
 'I am worried that it could happen. I would say that it's more than 50% likely to be brought in.
 
 'FIFA is powerful enough to implement the rule internally, if (Sepp) Blatter has the support of the council and his committees. Will it go through or not, I do not know but it looks as though it could. I have already had many discussions at UEFA and it looks as though it could happen.
 
 'I don't believe one football coach at the highest level would say it's a good idea. A football coach is always confronted with the same problem - he wants to reward good players.'
 
 Asked what would happen if the rule was introduced, Wenger added: 'First of all we have to fight against it.
 
 'If you fight it that should buy us some time. During that time you have to adapt to it.'
 
 The Gunners boss fears the issue could prove divisive and refused to rule out clubs splitting from FIFA.
 
 'Maybe, I don't know what the evolution will be,' he added. 'I always think that it's the strength of the sport if it's unified at the top level and you do not have a split.
 
 'Because then the rules can begin to change and before you know it you have different sports. So that is dangerous too. If the football bodies don't take care of the sport that could happen and that's a real danger.'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 06, 2007, 07:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  The Liverpool match was simply ridiculous.  For those that recorded it and hoped to watch it later, I'll refrain from any more commentary for a little while.
that was fun to watch ... you could see the floodgates about to burst around the 16:00 mark
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 06, 2007, 08:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  by the way, fsc hints on their website that they may start picking up hd feeds
I saw that.  And I also see that Setanta is saying no way to HD feeds until at least 2009 (too expensive).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 07, 2007, 09:46:00 am
yeah, they are too "small" of a company. crazy. doesnt setanta broadcast in england?
 
 i think that the fa should ban all nonenglish managers and throw the damn scots out
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 07, 2007, 10:45:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  I wonder if Mankie has anything to say about this...
 
 Updated: Nov. 6, 2007
 Fergie support for Blatter stance on imports
 
 Sir Alex Ferguson believes clubs should be seen to have 'a proportion of home-based players' - and feels rivals Arsenal would 'protest the loudest' at such a rule.
 
 '
Two points,
 
 1) I've been saying the same thing for years.
 
 2) Which country won the last world cup? Now look at the teamsheets for the clubs within that country and tell me what the percentage of home-grown players are in those teams?
 
 I, and Fergie, rest our case....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 07, 2007, 10:58:00 am
the top italian clubs have a ton of south american players. i think you want your best english players playing in a league against the best players possible. why would you want john terry testing himself against marlon king rather than nani?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 07, 2007, 01:30:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  2) Which country won the last world cup? Now look at the teamsheets for the clubs within that country and tell me what the percentage of home-grown players are in those teams?
 
Then explain Brazil's multiple world cups despite the vast majority of their starting 11 playing in Europe?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 07, 2007, 02:03:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  2) Which country won the last world cup? Now look at the teamsheets for the clubs within that country and tell me what the percentage of home-grown players are in those teams?
 
Then explain Brazil's multiple world cups despite the vast majority of their starting 11 playing in Europe? [/b]
errr.....EUROPE
 
 My point is not to have 100% home-grown players, but at least a majority. Just look at my own team. Beckham, Giggs, Scholes, Butt to name just four of the worlds greatest players at their peak all came through United's academy. We also have Rooney and *Keane who came in young enough for United to take credit. West Ham must get credit for Ferdinand though and  I'll give Arse credit for Walcot if he makes it because they got him young enough. I'm not opposed to foriegners but it just gets pathetic when you have teams like Arse with ZERO brits as regular starters and they're playing in the English premier league.
 
 *Republic of Ireland players would be included as part of the UK for home-grown status, because lets face it. Irish football is just subpar really so top Irish talent would be wasted playing for the likes of Derry City etc...Spain would get Gibralta and Portugal Madeira etc...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 07, 2007, 02:33:00 pm
so you like the limit on principle, not just to benefit the national team?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 07, 2007, 03:36:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so you like the limit on principle, not just to benefit the national team?
I like the limit because it gives talented kids a chance to come up through the academy system rather than teams just buy experienced foriegners then replace them with experienced foriegners.....not unlike the MLB and NHL farm systems. If it benefits the national team then great, but that isn't my main reason for supporting this idea. It's really to gives kids a chance.
 
 *edit* okay, now this has got me thinking. On second thoughts, a rule that states 7 of your players must come out of your academy, and been in the academy since age 16 or something like that, and not necessarily 'home-born' would be better. That way all young kids get a shot.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 08, 2007, 02:45:00 pm
Who would like to see Cannavaro play here in the US??
 
 (Just heard a rumour from a customer who's pretty well connected)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 08, 2007, 03:51:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Who would like to see Cannavaro play here in the US??
 
 (Just heard a rumour from a customer who's pretty well connected)
Why all the bad players Real Madrid has have to go to the US? We already lost Beckham, please let's not do the same with Cannavaro, he is awful. let him stay in Madrid!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 08, 2007, 06:06:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Who would like to see Cannavaro play here in the US??
 
 (Just heard a rumour from a customer who's pretty well connected)
Why all the bad players Real Madrid has have to go to the US? We already lost Beckham, please let's not do the same with Cannavaro, he is awful. let him stay in Madrid! [/b]
You think Beckham is a bad player?
 
 I like Cannavaro for his aggression and determination..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on November 08, 2007, 06:48:00 pm
I'm not opposed to foriegners but it just gets pathetic when you have teams like Arse with ZERO brits as regular starters and they're playing in the English premier league.
 
 [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 As I am perhaps the lone Arsenal supporter (or so it seems some time) on this board, let me say it is the club and not the nationality of the players that matter. A foreigner can bring honor to the club just as much as any Brit can.
 
 Also, if you are going to look at the players, why not also look at the coaches. If they are part of player development, then shouldn't it be that Brit coaches should be developing Brit players.
 
 While I imagine that Blatter is good intentioned (Fergie, probably not), he fails to realize football is a business, not a farm club for the national team
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 08, 2007, 07:01:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
  I'm not opposed to foriegners but it just gets pathetic when you have teams like Arse with ZERO brits as regular starters and they're playing in the English premier league.
 
 
As I am perhaps the lone Arsenal supporter (or so it seems some time) on this board, let me say it is the club and not the nationality of the players that matter. A foreigner can bring honor to the club just as much as any Brit can.
 
 Also, if you are going to look at the players, why not also look at the coaches. If they are part of player development, then shouldn't it be that Brit coaches should be developing Brit players.
 
 While I imagine that Blatter is good intentioned (Fergie, probably not), he fails to realize football is a business, not a farm club for the national team [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 Then why bother having national teams? Let's just have countries pick who the fuck they want and players play for whatever country they want, regardless of citizenship.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2007, 09:08:00 am
he has a point about managers though, i mean england couldnt do better than mcclaren? cmon, that was doomed from the start. if we would have kicked out the damn scots years ago, then the geordies wouldnt have had to suffer through souness
 
 its not like successful national teams have this kind of rule in their leagues. why kill the prem for a rule that you dont even know works
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2007, 12:27:00 pm
rooney out 4 weeks
 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=480558&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=480558&cc=5901)
 he's starting down the mike owen path, almost
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 09, 2007, 01:03:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  rooney out 4 weeks
  http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=480558&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=480558&cc=5901)
 he's starting down the mike owen path, almost
Not to be a skeptic, but Rooney's injury one day before a premiereship game he was likely to sit out, and two champions league games that are now meaningless, means that Rooney is really only being asked to sit out the two England matches.  Hmmmm?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2007, 01:05:00 pm
cant trust those scots managing american owned teams
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 09, 2007, 01:49:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  cant trust those scots managing american owned teams
...that has the core of the team on the field British.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2007, 01:52:00 pm
rio, rooney, hargreaves, all have has injuries that have kept them out of important england matches recently.
 
 sounds like fergie is to blame for the national team
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 09, 2007, 03:38:00 pm
Saturday, November 10
 
 7:30am Sunderland vs. Newcastle Utd (Set)
 10:00am Derby County vs. West Ham (Set)
 12:00pm Liverpool vs Fulham (FSC)  
 
 
 Sunday, November 11
 
 8:00am Birmingham City vs. Aston Villa (Set)
 10:00am Bolton vs. Middlesbrough (Set)
 10:00am Manchester United vs Blackburn (FSC)  
 12:00pm Portsmouth v Manchester City (FSC Del)  
 5:15pm Chelsea vs. Everton (Set del)
 6:00pm Tottenham vs Wigan (FSC Del)    
 
 Monday, Novbember 12
 
 3:00 Reading v. Arsenal (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2007, 03:49:00 pm
i'll be setting the alarm and wearing my GOALden boy away shirt tomorrow   :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 16, 2007, 04:49:00 pm
will israel come through tomorrow? game is on fsc, by the way
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 16, 2007, 07:44:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  will israel come through tomorrow? game is on fsc, by the way
With England being off, I assumed nobody cared about this weekends football....
 
 Saturday, November17
 
 
 9:00am South Africa v USA (FSC)
 1:00pm Israel v Russia  (FSC)  
 1:00pm Norway vs. Turkey (setanta)
 3:00pm Czech Republic v Slovakia (FSC)
 4:00pm Portugal vs. Armenia (Setanta)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 16, 2007, 08:33:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i'll be setting the alarm and wearing my GOALden boy away shirt tomorrow    :D  
No Owen, no hope?
 
 Michael Owen left England coach Steve McClaren nursing a major injury headache after he limped out of the friendly win over Austria with a thigh strain. Early reports suggest a month on the sidelines which would rule him out of Wednesday's potentially crucial European Championship showdown with Croatia at Wembley.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 17, 2007, 09:54:00 am
that was for the derby last week
 
 of course mike gets injured playing a pointless game for england surprised = no one   :roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 17, 2007, 04:46:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i'll be setting the alarm and wearing my GOALden boy away shirt tomorrow     :D  
Rooney's out!
 
 BTW - Scotland getting kicked out with virtually the last kick of the match is just priceless. HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHA, stupid eff'n jocko's.
 
 A draw for England will do it, although it will have to be 0-0, because with Rooney and Mike out who's going to score?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on November 17, 2007, 05:44:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  will israel come through tomorrow? game is on fsc, by the way
I guess the answer to that is yes.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 19, 2007, 10:33:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i'll be setting the alarm and wearing my GOALden boy away shirt tomorrow       :D    
Rooney's out!
 
 BTW - Scotland getting kicked out with virtually the last kick of the match is just priceless. HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHA, stupid eff'n jocko's.
 
 A draw for England will do it, although it will have to be 0-0, because with Rooney and Mike out who's going to score? [/b]
crouch has a way better international goal scoring record in the past two years as wayne-o
 
 all joking aside, if england blows it, will wembley burn to the ground
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 19, 2007, 11:39:00 am
Not to discredit England, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians were paid to lose the game. I am afraid this is starting to happen a lot in tenis, football, and even cricket, maybe betting should be forbidden.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 19, 2007, 11:52:00 am
wow, that's just a wild accusation. especially since the russian players were supposedly due $80,000 each if they qualified
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 19, 2007, 01:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Not to discredit England, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians were paid to lose the game. I am afraid this is starting to happen a lot in tenis, football, and even cricket, maybe betting should be forbidden.
I have to say, that's the dumbest thing to be said on this thread since it was first started....It's the refs that get paid to fix games, not teams.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 19, 2007, 03:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Not to discredit England, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians were paid to lose the game. I am afraid this is starting to happen a lot in tenis, football, and even cricket, maybe betting should be forbidden.
I have to say, that's the dumbest thing to be said on this thread since it was first started....It's the refs that get paid to fix games, not teams. [/b]
are you being serious about only the refs fixing the games? germany austria in 1982, spain 12- malta 1...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 21, 2007, 11:04:00 am
i'm skipping out of work early, and i was thinking of popping in somewhere to watch england today, however the closest bar with the match is 16 miles away. god i hate setanta sometimes
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 21, 2007, 11:46:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i'm skipping out of work early, and i was thinking of popping in somewhere to watch england today, however the closest bar with the match is 16 miles away. god i hate setanta sometimes
It's $20 to watch it in a bar, $25 to watch it at home.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 21, 2007, 12:22:00 pm
right, but if i pay $20 cash then it doesnt show up on my cable bill
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 21, 2007, 01:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  right, but if i pay $20 cash then it doesnt show up on my cable bill
Smackette never sees the DirecTV bill.  You should have seen her face last week when she saw the half off commercial for Sunday Ticket in HD.  Not good.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 21, 2007, 01:21:00 pm
yeah, i pay all the bills too, but i'd get pissed when i saw the bill, whereas if i pay it right away i only have to think about it once.
 
 i've been asked a couple of times in front of my wife how much the ticket costs. and uh...hopefully they wont charge us an extra $99 for hd next year
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 21, 2007, 01:48:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  yeah, i pay all the bills too, but i'd get pissed when i saw the bill, whereas if i pay it right away i only have to think about it once.
 
 
I used to think that way until I paid for the Greece world cup Q game - so glad I did.
 
 For full disclosure, I'm not paying for the game and will be downloading it this afternoon to watch this evening when I get home.  It's nice to be on the West Coast.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on November 21, 2007, 04:38:00 pm
So far it seems like $20 or $25 saved as Croatia is up 2 - 0 in the first half.  
 
 Guess the Russians knew what they were doing if they doing if they took the cash. They'll still get in.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 21, 2007, 06:42:00 pm
I really don't give a toss that England didn't qualify...really! Hopefully the FA have finally learned a lesson and will get a manager that knows what the hell he's doing, and get shot of this idiot, who's career peaked as assistant to Fergie...He really proved himself at Boro!   :roll:  
 
 I'm just glad it's over, it's been like waiting for a loose tooth to fall out..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 21, 2007, 07:18:00 pm
Quote
It seemed McClaren's version of the Great Escape would reach a memorable and totally satisfactory conclusion.
 
 Instead, just as Steve McQueen was recaptured and jailed, so England were snared again as substitute Petric belted home from 20 yards to knock them out.
I'll be whistling all the way home... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3LCeDn5gp8&feature=related)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 21, 2007, 10:00:00 pm
instead of watching the match i went running and ate a terrible meal that kinda made me ill. i think i came out ahead
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 26, 2007, 02:35:00 pm
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE - MATCHDAY 5
 
 Tuesday, November 27
 
 2:45pm Man United v FC Porto (ESPN2)
 2:45pm Sevilla vs. Arsenal (SET)
 5:00pm Lyon v Barcelona (ESPN Classic)
 5:00pm Lyon vs. Barcelona (SET Del)
 6:45pm Inter Milan vs. Fenerbache (SET Del)
 
 Wednesday, November 28
 
 2:45pm Rosenborg v Chelsea (ESPN2)
 2:45pm Liverpool vs. Porto (Set)
 5:00pm Bremen v Real Madrid (ESPN Classic)
 5:00pm Lazio vs. Olympiacos (Set Del)
 6:45pm Bremen vs. Real Madrid (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 26, 2007, 03:00:00 pm
thanks for not bring up this weekend's toon match
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 30, 2007, 12:53:00 pm
Saturday, December 1
 
 7:45am Chelsea v West Ham (Set)
 10:00am Blackburn v Newcastle (Set)
 10:00am Wigan v Manchester City (FSC)
 10:00am Sunderland v Derby County (Set Xtra)
 12:15pm Aston Villa v Arsenal (FSC)
 2:30 Portsmouth v Everton (Set Del)
 
 Sunday, December 2
 
 10:00am Liverpool v Bolton (Set)
 11:00am Tottenham v Birmingham (FSC)
 
 Monday, December 3
 
 2:00pm Manchester United v Fulham (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 30, 2007, 12:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  thanks for not bring up this weekend's toon match
Do you think a 1-0 loss to Bolton was any better?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 30, 2007, 01:17:00 pm
dunno, did man u play a 5-3-2 with three central defenders? did they start their best midfielder at left back and not start the second best? did they have only one shot? i'm guessing no    :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 30, 2007, 01:21:00 pm
Oh no, they looked terrible, don't get me wrong.  I was a bit upset that I woke up early to watch that piece of crap so that I could watch United live without ruining that match.  But it was hard for me to point that out when United lost to a team that hadn't won since August.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 30, 2007, 01:23:00 pm
well, that never stops mank
 
 i guess i was secretly hoping someone would start shit so i use the phase 'lost the plot'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 30, 2007, 01:41:00 pm
Beasley Out for the Season (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=486362&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines&cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 02, 2007, 09:59:00 pm
EURO 2008 DRAW
 
 GROUP A
 
 1.  Switzerland
 2.  Czech Republic
 3.  Portugal
 4.  Turkey
 
 GROUP B
 
 1.  Austria
 2.  Croatia
 3.  Germany
 4.  Poland
 
 GROUP C(!!!)
 
 1.  Netherlands
 2.  Italy
 3.  Romania
 4.  France
 
 GROUP D
 
 1.  Greece
 2.  Sweden
 3.  Spain
 4.  Russia
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on December 03, 2007, 01:35:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Beasley Out for the Season (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=486362&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines&cc=5739)
Bummer about Beasley.  He was coming back into his '02 form with Rangers.  Now we have to fall back on Convey...who I hope proves me wrong when I say he won't be international quality again.
 
 In other news, here's to Fulham stomping Man U at Old Trafford.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 03, 2007, 01:43:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  EURO 2008 DRAW
 
 GROUP A
 
 1.  Switzerland
 2.  Czech Republic
 3.  Portugal
 4.  Turkey
 
 
at least there's a good chance that roz or emre will advance
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 03, 2007, 01:48:00 pm
A HODGE PODGE OF MID WEEK MATCHES
 
 MONDAY
 3:00pm Premier League: Man United v Fulham (Set)
 
 TUESDAY
 
 2:45pm Champions League: AC Milan v Celtic (ESPN2)
 
 WEDNESDAY
 
 2:45pm UEFA CUp: Everton v St. Petersburg (FSC)
 3:00pm Premier League: Newcastle v Arsenal (Set)
 4:45 pm UEFA Cup: Copenhagen vs. Athletico Madrid (Set Del)
 6:30 pm UEFA Cup: Boleslav vs. AEK Athens (Set Del)
 
 THURSDAY
 
 2:30pm UEFA Cup: Anderlecht vs. Tottenham (Set)
 5:00pm UEFA Cup: Crvena Zvezda vs. Bolton (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 03, 2007, 01:49:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 GROUP B
 
 1.  Austria
 2.  Croatia
 3.  Germany
 4.  Poland  
And this one is sure to cause a riot or two, mostly involving supremecists.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 04, 2007, 07:20:00 pm
Q&A: Freddy Adu (http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/04/qa-freddy-adu/index.html?hp)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 05, 2007, 11:30:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  3:00pm Premier League: Newcastle v Arsenal (Set)
 
today's match is big. the uninspired performances and baffling team selections have lost the geordie faithful and the locker room. supposedly sam wants to sell given and bring in the finn from bolton (i'm not even going to try and spell his name) which could well trigger riots in the bigg market. i dont think that newcastle need to win today to save sam, or even get a point, but they have to at least LOOK good. saturday against brum, different story   :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 05, 2007, 01:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  EURO 2008 DRAW
 
 GROUP A
 
 1.  Switzerland
 2.  Czech Republic
 3.  Portugal
 4.  Turkey
 
 
at least there's a good chance that roz or emre will advance [/b]
GROUP C(!!!)
 
 1. Netherlands
 2. Italy
 3. Romania
 4. France
 
 GOOD GOD!! The quarter finals are group C!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 05, 2007, 08:30:00 pm
I just got a tip that Drogba's out 3-4 months, but I have yet to confirm this with a reliable media source.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2007, 10:18:00 am
newcastle was the superior side yesterday. good to see a spirited performance, there is hope yet. alan smith was awesome last night, please play him up top sam
 
 oh and you're welcome manusa fans. sorry we couldnt take all 3
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 06, 2007, 12:04:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  newcastle was the superior side yesterday. good to see a spirited performance, there is hope yet. alan smith was awesome last night, please play him up top sam
 
 oh and you're welcome manusa fans. sorry we couldnt take all 3
Couldn't agree more.  The team looked strong and that was the Alan Smith I think United wanted.  They probably should have played him up front instead of the midfield if they wanted that type of performance.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 06, 2007, 12:06:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  I just got a tip that Drogba's out 3-4 months, but I have yet to confirm this with a reliable media source.
Not quite 3-4 months at this point, but this, plus the African Nations Cup means Chelsea are without Drogba until at least mid-February. (http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2222829,00.html)  Bummer for the Ivory Coast though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2007, 12:49:00 pm
yeah, i dont think dukes is totally fit either. kind of makes it a nobrainer to start smith. but even so, smith just brings more to the table than dukes, although smudger doesnt have a great goal scoring record.
 
 in any event, duff should be back soon, so hopefully sam will move milner back to the right and achieve some balance. geremi is not a winger
 
 the anc is going to be rough for the toon. any idea if it'll be on tv in the states?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 06, 2007, 01:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  the anc is going to be rough for the toon. any idea if it'll be on tv in the states?
You know, I haven't heard.  Setanta had the Asian Cup, but they don't list the ANC on their web site. I'll look into it.
 
 And United is in real trouble too with the ANC.  Oh wait, they don't have any Africans (Frenchies don't count).  Nevermind.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2007, 01:23:00 pm
hunh, not one african player. didnt realize that. newcastle does have more than most
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 06, 2007, 03:57:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 [qb]
 And United is in real trouble too with the ANC.  Oh wait, they don't have any Africans (Frenchies don't count).  Nevermind. [/b]
..so I guess there is an advantage to having a core of home-grown players then...  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2007, 04:33:00 pm
or keep your imports to portuguese and south american at least   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 06, 2007, 04:56:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  or keep your imports to portuguese and south american at least    :)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 06, 2007, 05:02:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Please don't make me post pics of all UTD's Brit/Irish 1st team squad members again.   :)  
No need, here's the link (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013662;p=13)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2007, 05:54:00 pm
i was obviously trying to wind manc up, but man u hardly has that many more brits/irish players than newcastle. newcastle just loves the african players
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 07, 2007, 04:06:00 pm
Saturday, Dec 8
 
 7:30am Aston Villa vs. Portsmouth (Set)
 10:00am Manchester Utd vs. Derby County (Set)
 10:00am Chelsea vs Sunderland (FSC)
 12:00pm Reading vs Liverpool (FSC)
 2:30pm Everton vs. Fulham (Set Del)
 4:30pm Newcastle vs Birmingham (FSC Del)  
 
 
 Sunday, Dec 9
 
 7:30am Middlesbrough vs. Arsenal (Set)
 11:00am Blackburn v West Ham (FSC)  
 4:30pm Tottenham v Man City (FSC)
 5:15pm Bolton vs. Wigan (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 07, 2007, 04:16:00 pm
hey smackie, there's no truth that altidore is going to the toon, right? right??
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 07, 2007, 04:26:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hey smackie, there's no truth that altidore is going to the toon, right? right??
I haven't heard that and my guy at US Soccer didn't answer so I'll let you know if he calls back.
 
 What I do know is that US Soccer players are getting a bad rap for not wanting to play in countries where English is not the primary language, but when they get to England and can't cut the mustard, they're left in limbo.  
 
 So it would make sense for the Toon to be on the list as Jozy was in Italy and Spain trying out, but the only thing I heard about the tryouts was him asking other Americans what it's like to live in a country that doesn't speak English.  I seem to remember him being fluent in French, however, so I would bet that it would be between an English (or Scottish) club or a French club.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 07, 2007, 05:01:00 pm
i heard real is the other interested party, but he wouldnt really get any time there. his parents are haitian, so the french part might be out there too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 07, 2007, 05:24:00 pm
hmmm...of the 'stars' (adu, zizzo, bradley, szetela) of the under 20 u.s. team, jozy seems to be the only one not in europe, none in england/scotland/ireland. could a change be coming with the next generation?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 10, 2007, 02:16:00 pm
WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
 
 Why is it Arseholes can't seem to play north of the Watford gap?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 10, 2007, 02:30:00 pm
cause they rarely play there   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 10, 2007, 07:35:00 pm
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE MATCHDAY 6
 
 Tuesday, Dec 11
 
 2:45pm Olympic Marseille vs. Liverpool (ESPN2)
 2:45pm Chelsea vs. Valencia (Set)
 4:45pm Porto vs. Besiktas (Set Del)
 5:00pm Real Madrid vs. Lazio (ESPN Classic)
 6:30pm FC Schalke vs. Rosenborg (Set Del)
 
 Wednesday, Dec 12
 
 2:45pm Rangers vs. Lyon (ESPN2)
 2:45pm Roma vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 4:45pm Arsenal vs. Steaua (Set Del)
 5:00pm Barcelona vs. Stuttgart (ESPN Classic)
 6:30pm Fenerbache vs. CSKA Moscow (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 13, 2007, 09:25:00 pm
Sunday, December 16
 
 8:30am Liverpool vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 11:00am Arsenal vs. Chelsea  (FSC)  
 
 Man.  My head might explode.
 
 
 And if anybody cares what's on Saturday, here's Saturday's matches:
 
 10:00am West Ham vs. Everton (Set)
 10:00am Manchester City vs. Bolton (FSC)
 12:00pm Fulham vs. Newcastle (FSC)  
 2:30pm Sunderland vs. Aston Villa (Set Del)
 4:15pm Portsmouth vs. Tottenham (Set Del)
 4:30pm Wigan vs. Blackburn (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 14, 2007, 10:35:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Sunday, December 16
 
 8:30am Liverpool vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 11:00am Arsenal vs. Chelsea  (FSC)  
 
 )
I'm afraid they will be disapointing tight and boring matches.
 
 scum 0-2 United (Rooney and Ronny)
 Ars 0-0 chelski
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 14, 2007, 11:06:00 am
Liverpool 2- Manchester United 2
 Arsenal 2 - Chelsea 1
 
 Valencia 1 - Barcelona 3 (maybe dreaming here given how bad both teams are playing)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 14, 2007, 12:04:00 pm
Drogba is out so who's going to score the goal for chelski?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 15, 2007, 05:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 And if anybody cares what's on Saturday, here's Saturday's matches:
 
 10:00am Manchester City vs. Bolton (FSC)
 
pretty good match here
 
 newcastle with two wins on the trot   :)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 16, 2007, 01:42:00 pm
hows the rafalution doing these days??
   :D  
 good man tevez!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on December 16, 2007, 06:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Drogba is out so who's going to score the goal for chelski?
Apparently no one!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 17, 2007, 10:40:00 am
apparently no one in Chelsea is able to score these days, I thought Sevchenko, but was wrong.
 
 By the way, this coming weekend the game in Spain, Barcelona - Real Madrid. Unfortunately, Messi got injured on Saturday so the game is now quite open.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2007, 10:43:00 am
thanks for the heads up, i'll have to set my dvr
 
 i cant believe with all that spending, chelski basically relies on one forward
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2007, 11:51:00 am
What about the 30 gazillion quid scum shelled out for Torres? He couldn't find the net either...   :p
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2007, 12:02:00 pm
at least they have
  <img src="http://aardling.com/wp-content/uploads/Peter-Crouch-robot-football.gif" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 17, 2007, 01:19:00 pm
When it was over I was quite happy Ryan Babel didn't play the entire 90 minutes.  He would have found the back of the net for sure.
 
 Mank, you were one Rooney gaff and one Peter Cech gaff away from correctly predicting both socres.  Nicely done.
 
 And in case you all missed it, Terry broke three bones and is out for nearly two months.  No Drogba, no Terry, no Essien, no Kalou, no Mikel, no Makalele (oh wait, France moved his family to the mainland, nevermind).  That's a team in trouble through February.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2007, 01:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  at least they have
   <img src="http://aardling.com/wp-content/uploads/Peter-Crouch-robot-football.gif" alt=" - " />
Last I remember from my playing days....it's pretty hard scoring from the bench!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2007, 01:31:00 pm
i contend that roeder's fate was sealed when he was unable to land babel last year. not sure how i feel about that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2007, 01:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  When it was over I was quite happy Ryan Babel didn't play the entire 90 minutes.  He would have found the back of the net for sure.
 
 Mank, you were one Rooney gaff and one Peter Cech gaff away from correctly predicting both socres.  Nicely done.
 
 And in case you all missed it, Terry broke three bones and is out for nearly two months.  No Drogba, no Terry, no Essien, no Kalou, no Mikel, no Makalele (oh wait, France moved his family to the mainland, nevermind).  That's a team in trouble through February.
I have absolutely no, none, zilch, zero sympathy for them..with their squad they could put out two premiership teams, both in contention for champs league spots, so if they can't sort their egos out and start playing then tough titty!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2007, 01:33:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  at least they have
    <img src="http://aardling.com/wp-content/uploads/Peter-Crouch-robot-football.gif" alt=" - " />
Last I remember from my playing days....it's pretty hard scoring from the bench!! [/b]
what are we arguing about? i thought it was striker depth
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2007, 04:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  at least they have
     <img src="http://aardling.com/wp-content/uploads/Peter-Crouch-robot-football.gif" alt=" - " />
Last I remember from my playing days....it's pretty hard scoring from the bench!! [/b]
what are we arguing about? i thought it was striker depth [/b]
I didn't realize we were arguing.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2007, 05:03:00 pm
i always take !! as arguing. my bad
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2007, 06:01:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i always take !! as arguing. my bad
!! means a touch of sarcasm in the humor.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2007, 10:29:00 pm
humor or humour   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 18, 2007, 11:05:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  humor or humour    ;)  
Either one...I've crossed the Atlantic so many times even I'm not sure which is which anymore!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on December 18, 2007, 11:12:00 am
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i always take !! as arguing. my bad
!! means a touch of sarcasm in the humor. [/b]
either that, or bull930 is on the way.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 18, 2007, 02:02:00 pm
If you're like me and need to figure out where you need to be at certain times for the holidays...
 
 SATURDAY, DECEMBER 22
 
 7:30am  Arsenal vs. Tottenham (Set)
 10:00am Liverpool vs.  Portsmouth  (FSC)
 10:00am Aston Villa vs. Manchester City (Set)
 12:00pm Bolton vs. Birmingham (Set Del)
 12:00pm Fulham vs. Wigan (FSC)
 1:45pm Reading vs. Sunderland (Set Del)
 4:30pm Middlesbrough vs. West Ham (FSC Del)
 
 
 SUNDAY, DECEMBER 23
 
 7:00am Manchester Utd vs. Everton (Set & FSC)
 9:00am Newcastle vs. Derby County (Set)
 11:00am Blackburn vs. Chelsea (FSC)  
 
 
 BOXING DAY
 
 8:00am West Ham vs. Reading (Set)
 8:00am Chelsea vs. Aston Villa (FSC)  
 10:00am Sunderland vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 10:00am Derby vs. Liverpool (FSC)
 12:00pm Tottenham vs. Fulham (Set Del)
 12:00pm Everton vs. Bolton (FSC)  
 1:45pm Wigan vs. Newcastle (Set Del)
 2:30pm Portsmouth vs. Arsenal (FSC)
 3:30pm Birmingham vs. Middlesbrough (Set Del and on FSC @ 5)
 
 
 THURSDAY, DEC 27
 
 2:45pm Manchester City vs. Blackburn (Set)
 
 
 SATURDAY, DEC 29
 
 9:45am West Ham vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 10:00am Chelsea vs. Newcastle (FSC)
 12:00pm Everton vs. Arsenal (FSC)  
 12:15pm Tottenham vs. Reading (Set Del)
 2:00pm Wigan vs. Aston Villa (Set Del)
 2:30pm Birmingham vs. Fulham (FSC)
 3:45pm Sunderland vs. Bolton (Set Del)
 
 
 SUNDAY, DEC 30
 
 8:30am Derby County vs. Blackburn (Set)
 9:00am Portsmouth vs. Middlesbrough (FSC)
 11:00am Manchester City  vs. Liverpool (FSC)
 
 
 TUESDAY, JAN 1
 
 10:00am Manchester United vs. Birmingham (FSC)
 12:00pm  Aston Villa vs. Tottenham (FSC)  
 2:30pm Reading  vs. Portsmouth (FSC)
 
 (Setanta has not announced their 2008 schedule)
 
 WEDNESDAY, JAN 2
 
 2:30pm Newcastle vs. Man City (FSC)  
 5:00pm Bolton vs. Derby (FSC)  
 
 (Setanta has not announced their 2008 schedule)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 18, 2007, 02:22:00 pm
wonder how the man u/neverton match got on both channels
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 18, 2007, 02:26:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  wonder how the man u/neverton match got on both channels
I'm not going to believe it until I see it, but they both list it.  I thought it was weird too.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 18, 2007, 02:50:00 pm
i usually go through the channel guide to set up my dvr recordings on sunday, and both channels definitely had it listed. what ought to be most interesting is if they have the same feed
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 20, 2007, 12:52:00 pm
So, who would you make England Captain?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 20, 2007, 01:10:00 pm
owen   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 20, 2007, 01:19:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  owen    ;)  
I said captain, as in on-field captain.... not head cheerleader from the treatment room.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 20, 2007, 01:33:00 pm
my bad. steve taylor, then  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 20, 2007, 01:37:00 pm
in all seriousness, john terry is a dick, and i kind of think gerrard isnt a lock to start...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 21, 2007, 12:19:00 pm
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW
 
 Ties to be played February 19/20 & March 4/5  
 
 Celtic  v Barcelona  
 Lyon  v Man Utd  
 Schalke 04  v FC Porto  
 Liverpool  v Inter Milan
 Roma  v Real Madrid  
 Arsenal v AC Milan  
 Olympiacos  v Chelsea  
 Fenerbahce  v FC Sevilla
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 28, 2007, 12:47:00 pm
big sam wasnt my first choice as manager, but when he was appointed, i figured joey barton would be the kind of player he could turn around. now crazy joe looks like he could be the last straw. would not be surprised if sam gets the ax in the next month or two. of course the first two reasons are tactics and team selection...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 28, 2007, 01:09:00 pm
Barton is your typical scouse scumbag....and always will be. I bet they have a security guard in the locker room and safe to lock up the other players wallets and watches with that scouse twat around.
 
 Remanded in custody over the new year weekend.....it's classic, just classic and couldn't have happened to a more deserving dirtball.
 
 As for Big Sam - Bolton was about his limit in my opinion. He coaches just ugly bully boy football, and that will only ever get a team mid-table.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 28, 2007, 01:22:00 pm
haha, you love the scouse
 
 but seriously, what kind of professional gets into a fight at 5 AM in a mcdonalds during in the midst of the busy holiday fixture list. so fucking stupid. i mean, stay away from the big macs at least   ;)  
 
 the 4-3-3 relies on the middle striker heavily and that's fine if they can score (which smith doesnt excell at) and run (which dukes can't). oba isnt great as a wide man, and mike is completely wasted out there. the players that should benefit are zogs and jimmy mils, but somehow they both play out of position
 
 the point total is mediocre, but the effort and tactics give little hope that sam, you know, knows what he's doing. cant believe that another manager will be sacked, but its not hard to see it happening
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 28, 2007, 01:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 
 but seriously, what kind of professional gets into a fight at 5 AM in a mcdonalds during in the midst of the busy holiday fixture list.
 
 a scouse one?
 
 
 the point total is mediocre, but the effort and tactics give little hope that sam, you know, knows what he's doing. cant believe that another manager will be sacked, but its not hard to see it happening
I'm thinking Morono for your next one....if they can afford him and his transfer budget demands of course.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 28, 2007, 01:49:00 pm
i'd take him in a second, but he'd never do it
 
 i guess i could make myself feel better that sam wasnt hired by ashley, but its only a small consolation
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on December 29, 2007, 04:33:00 pm
Cheers to West Ham!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on December 31, 2007, 10:33:00 am
Wasn't part of Moreno's settlement with Chelsea that he could not manage in the EPL for a certain number of years?
 
 And why is there no talk about how Hodgson will take my Fulham triumphantly above relegation?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 31, 2007, 11:25:00 am
for this season only. manc was only half serious i believe, he'd never go to newcastle (or anywhere else in england) when he has milan, madrid and barca interested
 
 its to early for relegation/nonrelgation talk...unless youre the rams
 
 i was so mad after the kalou noncall that i ran errands rather than watch the everton/arsenal match live    :mad:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 31, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
  Cheers to West Ham!!
When I realized I hadn't worn my lucky Man Utd socks that I bought at Old Trafford, and Ronaldo missed the penalty I just knew in my heart that West Ham was going to come back and win...so it was my fault, totally and utterly my fault for not wearing the socks.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 02, 2008, 06:10:00 pm
FA CUP 3rd Round
 
 Saturday, Jan 5
 
 10:00am Ipswich Town v Portsmouth (FSC)
 12:00pm Aston Villa vs Manchester United (PPV $15)
 
 Sunday, Jan 6
 
 9:00am Burnley v Arsenal (FSC)  
 11:00am Luton Town vs Liverpool (PPV $15)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 02, 2008, 06:25:00 pm
i think newcastle/stoke is on too (setanta?)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 02, 2008, 06:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i think newcastle/stoke is on too (setanta?)
Do you think Sam will even be on the bench for that one?   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 02, 2008, 07:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i think newcastle/stoke is on too (setanta?)
I stand corrected:
 
 Sun. Jan. 6  
 
 1:00pm Stoke City v Newcastle (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 03, 2008, 10:02:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i think newcastle/stoke is on too (setanta?)
Do you think Sam will even be on the bench for that one?     :(
 
 yesterday's game gave me gas. i must be getting used to samball failures because no vomiting was involved
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 07, 2008, 02:11:00 pm
Carling Cup Semi-Final 1st Leg
 
 Tuesday, Jan 7
 
 3:00pm Chelsea vs. Everton (Set)
 
 
 Wednesday, Jan 8
 
 3:00pm Arsenal vs. Tottenham (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 07, 2008, 03:48:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Carling Cup Semi-Final 1st Leg
 
 Tuesday, Jan 7
 
 3:00pm Chelsea vs. Everton (Set)
 
 
 Wednesday, Jan 8
 
 3:00pm Arsenal vs. Tottenham (Set)
Come on the Toffees!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 08, 2008, 10:15:00 am
when are the fa cup replays
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 08, 2008, 11:28:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  when are the fa cup replays
I believe a week today.
 
 BTW - what am I missing with Anelka? To me he's another Gerrard, a good player on a team of average players, but nothing special.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 08, 2008, 01:10:00 pm
whether or not anelka is great or not isnt as important to me as his age (28). seems like way too much for a player with only a few years left
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 08, 2008, 01:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  when are the fa cup replays
I believe a week today.
  [/b]
Teusday and Wednesday next week, and one of these two games is likely to be on FSC next Wednesday:
 
 Man City  v  West Ham  
 Newcastle  v  Stoke
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on January 09, 2008, 02:02:00 pm
Big Sam's out: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=496793&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=496793&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2008, 02:11:00 pm
beat me by 15 minutes
 
 cant say i feel good about it...but its for the best that he goes. dont have the foggiest who's going to replace him though   :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 09, 2008, 03:02:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  beat me by 15 minutes
 
 cant say i feel good about it...but its for the best that he goes. dont have the foggiest who's going to replace him though    :(  
KEVIN KEEGAN!!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2008, 03:05:00 pm
honestly the only names i've even heard are shearer and jose, and maureen isnt happening
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2008, 05:01:00 pm
scratch uncle al: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7180147.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7180147.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 09, 2008, 05:49:00 pm
Do you realize that since 1997 the magpies have had a new manager every 1.8 years on average(6). What manager of quality would take that job with those statistics?
 
 Shearer didn't win squat in 10 years as a player up there and I doubt he would fair any better as a manager, although the Sunderland derby would be interesting with Keano as I doubt they're on each other's christmas card list. I think Jol is your best candidate if he's interested.
 
 Bottom line is this, unless you have an open checkbook like morono had at chelski (I could've brought success to chelski with that kind of money) a manager needs at least three years to build a team. He has to get shot of the dead weight and bring in players who fit into his gameplan. You can't dump a manager with a bunch of players he had no choice in selecting, very little money and give him 4 months to bring success.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2008, 06:13:00 pm
i agree on shearer, the whole idea is really silly
 
 sam is gone not because newcastle isnt winning. he was fired because the players HE bought were disappointing (enrique, rozenhal, dukes, smith hasnt been great either) or just a disaster (joey barton). he was fired because of negative tactics (playing for a tie at scumderland? seriously). he was fired because of insane team selection. he was fired because he wasnt the chairman's choice in the first place. he was a poor choice by an even poor chairman
 
 jol i think would be a fine choice
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 09, 2008, 06:38:00 pm
I nominate God's Shoeshine to manage the Toon at Old Trafford this weekend.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2008, 06:50:00 pm
i'd play 4-4-2 with zogs and milner on the correct sides.   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 09, 2008, 07:38:00 pm
I hope they put Smith on the field because he'll get a standing ovation from the OT faithful...oh, and Butt.
 
 It wouldn't surprise me if toon pull out a result this weekend because they'll have that siege mentality...I hope not, but stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2008, 11:17:00 am
i'd be really really surprised if smudger or butt were not captain, let alone playing
 
 the buzz has 'arry in all but a done deal. not sure how to feel about that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 11, 2008, 04:08:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i'd be really really surprised if smudger or butt were not captain, let alone playing
 
 the buzz has 'arry in all but a done deal. not sure how to feel about that
Might work out just fine because he seems to have a knack of putting a quality team together from a bunch of less than average players.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2008, 04:22:00 pm
plus he believes in attacking football, so its not all doom and gloom. should be interesting if ashley opens up his check book for his own manager
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2008, 05:11:00 pm
Saturday, January 12
 
 9:30am Middlesbrough v Liverpool (Set)
 10:00am Arsenal v Birmingham City (FSC)
 10:00am Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur (Set Xtra)
 12:15pm Manchester United v Newcastle United (FSC)
 2:30pm West Ham United v Fulham [Set delay]
 4:30pm Everton v Manchester City[FSC delay]
 6:00pm Aston Villa v Reading [Set delay]
 
 
 Sunday, January 13
 
 8:30am Sunderland v Portsmouth (Set)
 11:00am Bolton Wanderers v Blackburn Rovers (FSC)
 
 
 Tuesday, January 15
 
 3:00pm Liverpool v Luton Town (FSC)
 
 
 Wednesday, January 16
 
 3:00pm Manchester City v West Ham United (FSC)
 
 No word on whether or not Newcastle will be on PPV on Wednesday.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2008, 05:42:00 pm
how does that work? can i buy it when i get home or do i have to buy it in the afternoon and dvr it? does that even work   :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2008, 05:50:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  how does that work? can i buy it when i get home or do i have to buy it in the afternoon and dvr it? does that even work    :(  
If it's going to be available, it should available somewhere between 24-48 hours before the match.  You can purchase it (online or direclty with your remote) and DVR it to watch when you get home (it usually stays on the DVR for a set amount of time - 24 hours to one week).  But I just don't know if there's a big enough market for it to be offered.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2008, 05:51:00 pm
too bad its the fa cup, cause otherwise it would be on setanta xtra
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 12, 2008, 01:27:00 am
Nicolas Anelka is set to sign for his 5th Premier League club after Bolton accepted what is believed to be a £15m fee for the French international striker from Chelsea. Anelka has already played for Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City and has been signed as a direct replacement for Didier Drogba, currently at the African Nations' Cup and believed to be exiting Stamford Bridge this summer. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=497228&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 12, 2008, 11:46:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Nicolas Anelka is set to sign for his 5th Premier League club after Bolton accepted what is believed to be a £15m fee for the French international striker from Chelsea. Anelka has already played for Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City and has been signed as a direct replacement for Didier Drogba, currently at the African Nations' Cup and believed to be exiting Stamford Bridge this summer.
  • [/url] [/b]
(http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=497228&cc=5901)
I know Didier Drogba, Didier Drogba was a friend of mine, and Nicholas Anelka is no Didier Drogba.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 12, 2008, 03:50:00 pm
I think thats what they call a good, old-fashioned thrashing!
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  I hope they put Smith on the field because he'll get a standing ovation from the OT faithful...oh, and Butt.
 
 It wouldn't surprise me if toon pull out a result this weekend because they'll have that siege mentality...I hope not, but stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 12, 2008, 03:55:00 pm
I guess Big Ol'Sam wasn't that bad after all!!!!
 I bet he's in the pub laughing his arse off right now!!!!!
 
 It wasn't the final whistle, it was the mercy shot to put that poor magpie out of it's misery!!!
 
   :p
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 12, 2008, 06:13:00 pm
except, they were his players that arent good enough. more proof that he should be out rather than handed a checkbook
 
 or chequebook even   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Smylie on January 12, 2008, 07:14:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Nicolas Anelka is set to sign for his 5th Premier League club after Bolton accepted what is believed to be a £15m fee for the French international striker from Chelsea. Anelka has already played for Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City and has been signed as a direct replacement for Didier Drogba, currently at the African Nations' Cup and believed to be exiting Stamford Bridge this summer.
  • [/url] [/b]
(http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=497228&cc=5901)
I know Didier Drogba, Didier Drogba was a friend of mine, and Nicholas Anelka is no Didier Drogba. [/b]
As a chelsea fan, I think that Anelka has been signed as a Drogba replaced only for the ACN.  No way are they expecting him to be their #1 next season if Didier leaves, which i still dont see happening.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 14, 2008, 11:12:00 am
As a non-chealski fan, this upcoming summer will see players trying to leave stamford bridge like rats off a sinking ship, and the rich russian will probably sell off and go do something more interesting.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2008, 11:23:00 am
i dont know that you could do much better than anelka with the system chelsea runs
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 14, 2008, 12:08:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i dont know that you could do much better than anelka with the system chelsea runs
Peter Crouch?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2008, 12:35:00 pm
peter crouch still plays football? who knew
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 14, 2008, 12:53:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  peter crouch still plays football? who knew
Replacing Drogba with Anelka tells me money bags is getting bored with the whole thing so his checkbook is staying in his pocket. That's like replacing your Ferrari with a toyota prius.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on January 14, 2008, 12:56:00 pm
No, Roman and Avram just wanted someone who is not cap tied for the CL.  I'm not sure there's anyone who fits that criteria that is significantly better.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2008, 01:02:00 pm
a prius sounds way more practical    :o  
 
 i know you hate anelka, but he can score in the prem in a similar system, with a far shittier team. like the judge says hes not cup tied. i would bet they bring in someone else for depth in the summer, but i totally hope romie is bored and punts the whole silly club
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 14, 2008, 01:12:00 pm
You know what I don't get about the ANC - it's not like this was sprung on anybody.  It's always been this way, so why didn't more teams plan accordingly?
 
 And I think the Judge is spot on.  It was all about the CL.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2008, 01:13:00 pm
speaking of wacky owners, is it true that all of manusa's gigantic profits last year went to paying interest on the debt the glazers used to buy the team?   :eek:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2008, 01:15:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  You know what I don't get about the ANC - it's not like this was sprung on anybody.  It's always been this way, so why didn't more teams plan accordingly?
 
one of the dozen or so reasons that newcastle is managerless right now. the stories coming out (sir bobby telling big sam not to buy germeni, sam wanting to sell oba and taylor to buy more defensive midfielders and european defenders) are getting worse and worse
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 14, 2008, 01:40:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  speaking of wacky owners, is it true that all of manusa's gigantic profits last year went to paying interest on the debt the glazers used to buy the team?    :eek:  
Yes.  But all the huge profits mean is that they can purchase more players and still service their debt obligations on schedule.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 14, 2008, 01:45:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  speaking of wacky owners, is it true that all of manusa's gigantic profits last year went to paying interest on the debt the glazers used to buy the team?     :eek:  
Well, they have the strongest squad they've had in years....amazing strength in depth, fill their 75,000+ stadium week in week out and sit atop of the toughest league in the world, so they must be doing something right....
 
 Toon could sure do with a rich yank right now huh?
 
 BTW, I met one of the owners recently.....came to test drive a Quattroporte, he gives me a bit of inside scoop now and again.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 14, 2008, 01:50:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
 
 BTW, I met one of the owners recently.....came to test drive a Quattroporte, he gives me a bit of inside scoop now and again.
One of the brother's wife was a law school classmate of mine.  After the purchase I sent her a note and she said she knew that I would be the only person from school who cared anything about this deal.  She was happy to know that I approved of the purchase and wasn't one of the many fans who threatened her husband's life.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2008, 02:09:00 pm
i am just a little floored that they were so successful last year and dont even pay on the principle. guess that's what happens when you have doodles in charge   ;)    
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
 Toon could sure do with a rich yank right now huh?
not sure i could ask for more than an english owner that plowed half a billion dollars into the club in 8 months
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 14, 2008, 05:49:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i am just a little floored that they were so successful last year and dont even pay on the principle. guess that's what happens when you have doodles in charge    ;)      
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
 Toon could sure do with a rich yank right now huh?
not sure i could ask for more than an english owner that plowed half a billion dollars into the club in 8 months [/b]
1/2 billion could buy you a decent team including stadium.....so you could ask for a lot more actually. In fact, you could probably buy chelski for that come June...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 15, 2008, 01:33:00 pm
looking like its going to be houllier with alan shearer possibly working under him. interesting
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Post by: brennser on January 15, 2008, 01:47:00 pm
shite, I was holding out hope he might stoop low enough to manage ireland
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 15, 2008, 01:57:00 pm
al?    ;)
 
 its not done yet, but both have said they are interested
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 15, 2008, 03:29:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  shite, I was holding out hope he might stoop low enough to manage ireland
Three little words that might prevent a quality manaager from taking that job
 
 Eff Hay Eye
 
  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 16, 2008, 09:43:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  looking like its going to be houllier with alan shearer possibly working under him. interesting
i'm not going to be making anymore posts like this   :o
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Post by: brennser on January 16, 2008, 12:26:00 pm
its Keegan....interesting.....
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 16, 2008, 12:38:00 pm
:eek:
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Post by: brennser on January 16, 2008, 12:48:00 pm
yeah, quite a shock, and although I'm happy to be proven wrong, much like the Gibbs return here in DC (except Keegan never really won anything first time round) it will probably all end in tears again....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 16, 2008, 01:08:00 pm
i'm not shocked so much as...disappointed i guess. i'll support king kev and all, it just seems a tad short sighted in my opinion. i suppose more details could adjust my thoughts
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 17, 2008, 10:39:00 am
Kevin Shaggin Keegan!!! HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHA HA HA HAHAHAHAHA   :D    :D    :D  
 
 I'm sure he'll walk before his contract is up as usual.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 17, 2008, 11:36:00 am
its never boring at sjp
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 17, 2008, 12:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  its never boring at sjp
unless you're the trophy polisher....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 17, 2008, 01:05:00 pm
all of the oldies need extra work, i'm sure
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 17, 2008, 01:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  all of the oldies need extra work, i'm sure
But those were back in the iron age, and I don't think you need to polish iron...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 17, 2008, 01:23:00 pm
hahaha, that was actually a good one. and i thought i've seen every 'you've won fuck all in 39/52 years' zinger
 
 usually those comments on the internet come from supporters of clubs that have never played in the champions league though
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Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2008, 02:27:00 pm
This cracked me up...
 
 The truth the soccerphobes refuse to face (http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/01/17/the_truth_the_soccerphobes_ref.html)
 
 Some Americans regard soccer as the devil's spawn. In reality it is as much a part of their nation as mom's apple pie
 
 Soccer is a slow, boring, low-scoring, meaningless, super-sucky pseudo-sport played exclusively by lesbians, small children and homosexual Nazi psychopaths with bad haircuts. And terrorists. Children who play soccer all grow up to be "asshole incompetents" and "knock-kneed milksops" and "flopping on the ground, writhing-in-pain homos". Soccer is being forced on the American people by the sinister "global elite" secret world government. Soccer, in short, "sucks bat-shit off cave walls". And did we mention that it's gay? (http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/01/17/the_truth_the_soccerphobes_ref.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2008, 02:34:00 pm
Saturday, January 19
 
 9:45am Reading vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 10:00am Fulham vs. Arsenal (FSC)
 12:00pm Newcastle vs. Bolton (FSC)
 3:00pm Birmingham City vs. Chelsea (Set Del)
 4:30pm Tottenham vs. Sunderland (FSC)
 6:00pm Portsmouth vs. Derby County (Set Del)
 
 
 Sunday, January 20
 
 8:30am Wigan vs. Everton
 11:00am Man City vs. West Ham
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2008, 02:49:00 pm
Last Sunday I took my son to get his haircut....we had a 20 minute wait so started to watch the Chargers Colts game that was playing on the bigscreen in the hairdressers. In 20 minutes we saw three plays...yes, three plays in twenty minutes. The majority of the time was spent watching two whole teams trot off the pitch and two whole different teams trot on. Then the referee would have a conference call with all the other 50 refs then proceed to turn on his microphone and explain to the dumb fucks watching what had just happened. What? They still had no idea what just happened even after 35 instant replays?
 
 Call soccer boring, stupid, gay (I admit, the faking injury and diving pisses me off too) whatever.....but if you watch that shit you have no right calling it 'slow'.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 18, 2008, 02:57:00 pm
Did I mention I'm gonna be freezing my ass off at the Packers game on Sunday??  :D  
 
 Just thought I'd share.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  Did I mention I'm gonna be freezing my ass off at the Packers game on Sunday??   :D  
 
 Just thought I'd share.....
May I suggest you take a good book along with you...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2008, 03:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  Did I mention I'm gonna be freezing my ass off at the Packers game on Sunday??   :D  
 
 Just thought I'd share.....
You're a bold man.  Lambeau in Jan.  I can assure you that I don't have the balls for that.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 18, 2008, 03:19:00 pm
i've been to a steelers game in a blizzard before but this weekend is going to be crazy
 
 i like alot of sports, but soccer's lack of action stoppage and commercials is pretty great. its really not worth arguing about
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Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2008, 04:36:00 pm
Hey Brennser....
 
 Shovelers Needed This Evening For Lambeau Field Snow Removal    
 posted 01/17/2008
 
 The Green Bay Packers are requesting assistance with Lambeau Field snow removal this evening, Jan. 17, at 6 p.m.
 
 Ted Eisenreich, the Packers' director of facility operations, said the early portion of the current snowfall is in a slushy condition in the seating bowl, and with overnight lows expected to be in single digits, it is important to remove the wet snow tonight to minimize freezing.
 
 Interested shovelers are asked to report to the Mills Fleet Farm Gate on Lambeau Field's west side, beginning at 6 p.m. this evening and continuing into the night under the lights.
 
 The Packers will provide shovels to all who come to help.
 
 Shovelers need to be at least 15 years old and will receive $8 per hour, with payment to be made immediately upon completion of their work.
 
 This is the sixth such request this season.
 
 Any additional accumulation overnight and possible need for removal will be addressed Friday morning.
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Post by: brennser on January 18, 2008, 04:38:00 pm
awesome
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Post by: tigersscareme on January 18, 2008, 04:54:00 pm
I heard on the radio this morning that that field was heated.
 
 false?
 
 i don't really care either way, other than it's funny that someone would make up that rumour.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2008, 06:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by tigers scare me:
  I heard on the radio this morning that that field was heated.
 
 false?
 
That is true.  Has been in place for years....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2008, 07:18:00 pm
Okay back to topic!!!   :mad:  
 
 Test your knowledge of the permed one.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/funny_old_game/7193753.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/funny_old_game/7193753.stm)
 
 I got 5/10
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 19, 2008, 01:32:00 pm
The permed one was introduced to rapturous (sp?) applaus today at SJP with the Smiths playing in the background.....I believe it was This Charming Man but what do you think would be a more appropiate choice?
 
 Stop me (if you you think that you've heard this one before)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 19, 2008, 03:12:00 pm
And Keegan's second era begins just as the first one ended.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 19, 2008, 04:47:00 pm
i thought a manager needs 3 years to build a team    :p
 
 i got 6/10
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 22, 2008, 11:10:00 am
HEY SMACKIE
 
 how can i watch le arse kill the toon in the fa cup this weekend
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 22, 2008, 12:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i thought a manager needs 3 years to build a team     :p  
 
 i got 6/10
Keegan doesn't stick around at any job long enough to finish a cup of coffee.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 22, 2008, 01:07:00 pm
right, 250 games is very short   :roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 22, 2008, 01:14:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  HEY SMACKIE
 
 how can i watch le arse kill the toon in the fa cup this weekend
Pay per view only (or bit torrent download - assume 4-6 hours after completion before you can start watching).
 
 This Weekends PPV ($16 each)
 
 Saturday January 26 at 10am ET - Arsenal vs Newcastle United
 Sunday January 27 at 9am ET - Manchester United vs Tottenham Hotspur
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 22, 2008, 01:24:00 pm
oh, i may have to bit the bullet and actually pay for it. where's a good bt site if i manage to find some restraint?
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Post by: vansmack on January 22, 2008, 01:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  oh, i may have to bit the bullet and actually pay for it. where's a good bt site if i manage to find some restraint?
I search both mininova and isohunt - those are usually the first ones to index the torrent.
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Post by: vansmack on January 22, 2008, 06:14:00 pm
For those of you who recorded the Carling Cup match from today, I won't ruin the ending for you.  But do let me know when we can talk about it.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 22, 2008, 07:24:00 pm
didnt record nor watch
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 22, 2008, 07:26:00 pm
:D
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Post by: Barcelona on January 22, 2008, 09:20:00 pm
What is happening with Spanish coaches in the UK?
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Post by: vansmack on January 23, 2008, 02:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   :D  
I think my favorite part, Mankie, is Bendtner wanting Adebayor carded for head butting him.  They're on the SAME TEAM!!!  Would you see that on any other team, save for maybe Chelsea?
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Post by: vansmack on January 23, 2008, 02:15:00 pm
Great, another American who will be in the League Championship next season...
 
 Eddie Johnson signs with Fulham (http://www.fulhamfc.com/Club/News/NewsArticles/2008/January/JohnsonSigns.aspx)
 
 Following a hearing at a tribunal held in London earlier today, Fulham Football Club is pleased to announce that Eddie Johnson has been granted a work permit. The US international striker has signed a three-and-a-half year deal from The MLS that will see him remain at the Club until the summer of 2011.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 23, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
well, hopefully the wheels will continue to fall off le arse this weekend   :D  
 
 any word on the johnson fee? i heard they were talking around £3-4 million   :eek:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on January 24, 2008, 11:25:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  This cracked me up...
 
 The truth the soccerphobes refuse to face (http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/01/17/the_truth_the_soccerphobes_ref.html)
great article.  there is another popular attitude (less popular today) that is/was very very similar: the french-bashing that went on a few years ago.  just like people who might defend soccer, anyone who had anything positive to say about the french a few years back was seen as un-American.
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Post by: vansmack on January 24, 2008, 06:57:00 pm
Saturday, January 26
 
 FA Cup - 4th Round

 
 10:00am Mansfield Town vs Middlesbrough (FSC)
 10:00am Arsenal vs Newcastle (PPV)
 12:00pm Wigan Athletic vs Chelsea (FSC)
 
 EPL
 
 10:00am Aston Villa vs. Blackburn (Set)
 
 
 Sunday, January 27
 
 FA Cup - 4th Round  

 
 9:00am Man United vs. Tottenham (PPV)
 11:00am Sheffield United vs Manchester City (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 28, 2008, 03:03:00 pm
Newcastle avoid tie with Manchester United by virtue of loss to Arsenal. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=502439&cc=5739)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 28, 2008, 03:23:00 pm
that's the only prem vs prem match too. crazy
 
 newcastle looked ok for the first half an hour. second was meh and then the wheels fell off
 
 3 days and change left in the window, doubt we will sign anyone
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Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2008, 02:30:00 pm
I've been travellling for a while and now have the flu.  I picked a good day to be sick - there are a ton of premier league matches on today and tomorrow.  I just can't sit up long enough to give you the schedule, except Newcastle is today and Man U is tomorrow.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 29, 2008, 03:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  that's the only prem vs prem match too. crazy
 
 
Yeah...go figure, it's amazing how that happened huh??
 
   :roll:
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 29, 2008, 03:50:00 pm
ok
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Post by: brennser on January 29, 2008, 03:52:00 pm
wow, it only took newcastle a week to go behind Keegans back to appoint Denis Wise!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 29, 2008, 03:56:00 pm
they were always going to bring someone in that role, i dont think that wise is a manager in waiting. keegan wanted to talk to shearer of all people, who would have been much more of an 'over the shoulder' presence
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 29, 2008, 04:05:00 pm
Keegan and Wise!!!!
 
 Mini me gets a Minimini me
 
  <img src="http://www.danheuser.com/images/polls/2003/dec/mini-me.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 30, 2008, 09:42:00 am
ok, can we not play any more games at the emirates? kthx
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Post by: brennser on January 30, 2008, 11:26:00 pm
Scum are 7th!!!! 7th!!! This is fucking hilarious watching their little meltdown and their disastrous US takeover - couldn't happen to a nicer team or their fans
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 31, 2008, 01:39:00 pm
if they lose rafa and arent in the champions league next year, will they have any players left
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2008, 01:25:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  Scum are 7th!!!! 7th!!!
How about 17 points adrift midway through the season?  That's what amazes me.
 
  <img src="http://msn.foxsports.com/id/7746108_18_1.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2008, 01:31:00 pm
Saturday, Feb 2
 
 7:30am Manchester City vs. Arsenal (Set)
 9:30am Blackburn vs. Everton (Set Xtra)
 10:00am Portsmouth vs. Chelsea (FSC)
 10:00am Tottenham vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 12:00pm Liverpool vs. Sunderland (FSC)
 4:30pm Wigan vs. West Ham (FSC)  
 6:00pm Blackburn vs. Everton (Set Del)
 
 
 Sunday
 
 8:30am Newcastle Utd vs. Middlesbrough (Set)
 11:00am Fulham vs. Aston Villa (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 01, 2008, 01:46:00 pm
some good matches this weekend. too bad liverpool is playing scumderland, i cant root for both to lose   :(
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 06, 2008, 10:38:00 am
The Flowers Of Manchester
 
 One cold and bitter Thursday in Munich, Germany,
 Eight great football stalwarts conceded victory.
 Eight men will never play again, who met disaster there,
 The flowers of English football, the flowers of Manchester.
 
 The Busby Babes were flying home, returning from Belgrade,
 This great United family all masters of their trade.
 The pilot of the aircraft, the skipper Captain Thain,
 Three times tried to take off and twice turned back again.
 
 The third time down the runway disaster followed close,
 There was slush upon that runway and the aircraft never rose.
 It ploughed into the marshy ground, it broke, it overturned.
 And eight of that team were killed when the blazing wreckage burned.
 
 Roger Byrne and Tommy Taylor, who were capped for England's side,
 And Ireland's Liam Whelan and England's Geoff Bent died.
 Mark Jones and Eddie Coleman and David Pegg also,
 They all lost their lives as it ploughed on through the snow.
 
 Big Duncan he went too, with an injury to his brain,
 And Ireland's brave Jack Blanchflower will never play again.
 The great Matt Busby lay there, the father of this team,
 Three long months passed by before he saw his team again.
 
 The trainer, coach and secretary and three members of the crew,
 Also eight sporting journalists who with United flew,
 And one of them was Big Swifty who we will ne'er forget,
 The finest English 'keeper that ever graced a net.
 
 England's finest football team it's record truly great,
 It's proud success mocked by this cruel turn of fate.
 Eight men will never play again who met disaster there,
 The flowers of English football, the flowers of Manchester.
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Post by: vansmack on February 08, 2008, 07:22:00 pm
Saturday, February 9
 
 7:30am Aston Villa vs. Newcastle (Set)
 9:45am Sunderland vs. Wigan (Set)
 10:00am Everton vs. Reading (FSC)
 12:00pm Derby vs. Tottenham (FSC)
 12:15pm West Ham vs. Birmingham (Set)
 4:30pm Bolton vs. Portsmouth (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, February 10
 
 8:30am Manchester Utd vs. Manchester City (Set)
 11:00am Chelsea vs. Liverpool (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 09, 2008, 02:31:00 pm
I see Keegan hasn't changed his managerial tactics...just outscore your opponent and don't worry about defence. The only problem with Toon is they can't score any goals!!!!!
 
   :D  
 
 I'll be surprised if he sees out the season.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 09, 2008, 07:40:00 pm
haha...isnt outscoring your opponent the basic way you win games
 
 the bottom line is the players arent good enough
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2008, 12:33:00 pm
geez if newcastle's result this weekend is enough for kev to quit, id hate to see what fergie does after the manc derby   :eek:
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Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2008, 01:40:00 pm
I'm hearing rumors of England vs. USA at Wembley in late May.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2008, 01:49:00 pm
i wonder how many left side mids the u.s. will go through before then. dropping like flies
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Post by: brennser on February 11, 2008, 02:00:00 pm
so famous last words and I completely expect the FAI to fuck this up in their own inimitable style BUT it looks like Giovanni Trappatoni may be the next Ireland manager
 
 seems like a decent hire given all the dead wood and retreads that have been bandied around for the last 3 months
 
 and judging by this clip (rough although poor translation included) he could be just whats needed for those pampered, lazy, feckless fuckers who currently bring very little honour to the Irish shirt....
 
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bqp64q7kHmw (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bqp64q7kHmw)
 
 of course, the downside is after one or two games of seeing John O'Shea he may well have a heart attack!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 11, 2008, 02:02:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  I'm hearing rumors of England vs. USA at Wembley in late May.
Is this game to prepare for the Euro 2008?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2008, 02:06:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i wonder how many left side mids the u.s. will go through before then. dropping like flies
I still think it's Beasley's job to lose, and he has little to worry about if Convey continues to play like that...
 
 I really thought the outside fullbacks, especially Corrales, were the worst part of that match.  And the central mid showed a lot of promise, but not until Feilhaber replaces the coaches son.  He has the potential to be one of the best American footballer's ever.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2008, 02:08:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Is this game to prepare for the Euro 2008?
I resisted the joke, but I'm glad that you did not.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2008, 02:17:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i wonder how many left side mids the u.s. will go through before then. dropping like flies
I still think it's Beasley's job to lose, and he has little to worry about if Convey continues to play like that...
 
 I really thought the outside fullbacks, especially Corrales, were the worst part of that match.  And the central mid showed a lot of promise, but not until Feilhaber replaces the coaches son.  He has the potential to be one of the best American footballer's ever. [/b]
convey had to stay in the u.s. to get some sort of injection. kid gets hurt so often. if you look at the u.s. roster, the fullbacks have like 10 caps between them or something crazy.
 
 jozy has got to move to europe next year. right?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 11, 2008, 02:27:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  haha...isnt outscoring your opponent the basic way you win games
 
 
Good point, but you know what I meant. Just rack up the goals and hope they don't score as many at the other end.
 
 As for the England v USA match...how can it be a warm up for Euro 2008???? America isn't in Europe, silly.
 
 And just because England get an Italian coach Ireland have to get one as well...what's that all about?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 11, 2008, 03:09:00 pm
Just a few weeks prior to the Euro 2008, I could not resist it with all the British fans in the board.
 
 However, I am still far more interested in the Champions League than in the Euro.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 11, 2008, 03:41:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Just a few weeks prior to the Euro 2008, I could not resist it with all the British fans in the board.
 
 However, I am still far more interested in the Champions League than in the Euro.
Who will all the other fans and media hate with a passion now England aren't in it? It won't be the same without England.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 11, 2008, 03:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Just a few weeks prior to the Euro 2008, I could not resist it with all the British fans in the board.
 
 However, I am still far more interested in the Champions League than in the Euro.
Who will all the other fans and media hate with a passion now England aren't in it? It won't be the same without England. [/b]
Italy. I tend to dislike them a lot when it comes to national team.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2008, 04:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Just a few weeks prior to the Euro 2008, I could not resist it with all the British fans in the board.
 
 However, I am still far more interested in the Champions League than in the Euro.
Who will all the other fans and media hate with a passion now England aren't in it? It won't be the same without England. [/b]
spain
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Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2008, 05:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Who will all the other fans and media hate with a passion now England aren't in it?  
Cristiano Ronaldo.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 12, 2008, 11:33:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Who will all the other fans and media hate with a passion now England aren't in it?  
Cristiano Ronaldo. [/b]
Germany and/or Portugal
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 12, 2008, 02:43:00 pm
are you guys ready to talk about last sunday yet?
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Post by: vansmack on February 12, 2008, 02:59:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  are you guys ready to talk about last sunday yet?
No.  Try me again tomorrow.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 12, 2008, 06:40:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  are you guys ready to talk about last sunday yet?
NO!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 11:13:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  are you guys ready to talk about last sunday yet?
yet?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 13, 2008, 12:32:00 pm
Fuck off!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 12:45:00 pm
hahaha
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 13, 2008, 12:50:00 pm
Anyway....how's that Keven Keegan bloke working out for you?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 12:55:00 pm
i think he should have bought in the transfer window, but really if two managers cant get this group of players to stay up, i dont who could. like i said a month or so back, the worst part of the fat man was the players he bought, and then wanting to sell oba and taylor to buy diarra and kevin nolan was just crazy. in summary, if we go down then kev will share the blame, but if we stay up then its a success, because i dont think sam would have been able to pull that off
 
 how about that manchester derby?
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Post by: Barcelona on February 13, 2008, 01:13:00 pm
Let's bet. In England 5 points between Arsenal and Manchester United with 12 games left.
 
 In Italy, 8 points between Inter and Roma with 16 games left.
 
 In Spain, 8 points between Madrid and Barcelona with 15 games left.
 
 Arsenal 63
 Manchester United 58
 Chelsea 55
 
 Inter Milan 56
 AS Roma 48
 
 Real Madrid 56
 Barcelona 48
 
 I will go with Arsenal (not sure at all, I think it will depend on how far both Arsenal and Man. Utd get in the Champions League), Inter and Barcelona.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 01:21:00 pm
italy is over
 
 i dont know much about spain at this point, to be honest
 
 in england, arsenal has the lead, man u has dropped 5 of 6 points (although we arent talking about it yet). i think chelsea needed all three against liverpool this past weekend to climb back into it, but were flat at home. gotta go with with arsenal
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Post by: vansmack on February 13, 2008, 01:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  are you guys ready to talk about last sunday yet?
yet? [/b]
There's one unifying theme in all 4 of United's EPL losses this season: no Wayne Rooney.  And it's not like he's having a great goal scoring season either - it's just the little things he does that make the difference.
 
 And I'm not one to question Sir Alex, but for some reason he has paired up his midfield Nani/ Anderson and Carrick/Hargreaves.  Add to that a not match fit Scholes and that left the youth fairly exposed as we saw on Sunday.  A nice mixture of youth and experience would be preferred by this fan.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 01:29:00 pm
what about wes brown? looked to me like he had little answer for petrov
 
 i dislike shitty even more than mansusa, but man is petrov fun to watch
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 13, 2008, 01:43:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  what about wes brown? looked to me like he had little answer for petrov
 
 i dislike shitty even more than mansusa, but man is petrov fun to watch
Wasn't Toon trying to get Brown?   :p  
 
 Poor Wes, that would be like when Michael Jordan signed up for the Wizards.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 01:45:00 pm
that was a fat sam move. he'd fit in great with the rest of our over the hill has-beens
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Post by: vansmack on February 13, 2008, 03:02:00 pm
This one's going to cost me another $16.
 
 FA CUP - 5th ROUND
 
 Saturday, Feb 16
 
 10:00am Liverpool vs Barnsley (FSC)  
 12:00pm Chelsea vs Huddersfield (FSC)
 12:00pm Manchester United vs Aresnal (PPV)
 
 Sunday, Feb 17
 
 9:00am Sheffield United vs Middlesbrough (PPV)
 11:00am Preston North End vs Portsmouth (FSC)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 03:31:00 pm
that's the best one too    :(
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 16, 2008, 01:07:00 pm
HAHA HAHAHAHAHA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH FUCKING HAHAHAHAHAHA OOOOOOHHHHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH SOMEONE SLAP ME PLEASE, HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOH
 
 Regardless of what happens between United and Arsenal, today is a great day!!!
 
 My bias is obviously for United, but in reality there's very little between the two sides. I'd give the edge to United because of home field advantage and we had 'em at the camel dome until the last kick of the game.
 
 But tonight...I'm a BARNSLEY fan.
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Post by: brennser on February 16, 2008, 03:23:00 pm
yeah perfect day and turns out there were 4 goals between our boys and the arse!!!
 
 Vive la rafalution, eh?
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  HAHA HAHAHAHAHA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH FUCKING HAHAHAHAHAHA OOOOOOHHHHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH SOMEONE SLAP ME PLEASE, HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOH
 
 Regardless of what happens between United and Arsenal, today is a great day!!!
 
 My bias is obviously for United, but in reality there's very little between the two sides. I'd give the edge to United because of home field advantage and we had 'em at the camel dome until the last kick of the game.
 
 But tonight...I'm a BARNSLEY fan.
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Post by: vansmack on February 16, 2008, 03:58:00 pm
Fuck, I'm gonna smile all weekend!  
 
 Who the hell are you and what did you do with the REAL Darren Fletcher?!!??!
 
 4 NIL 4 NIL 4 NIL 4 NIL, we've got 4, you've got nil!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 16, 2008, 06:26:00 pm
I'd go home and give the missus one but she's not talking to me...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 17, 2008, 03:22:00 pm
more like lolerpool
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Post by: vansmack on February 18, 2008, 03:36:00 pm
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE - FIRST KNOCKOUT ROUND
 
 Tuesday, February 19

 
 2:00pm Olympiacos vs. Chelsea (Set - 2:45 KO)
 2:30pm Liverpool vs. Inter Milan (ESPN2)
 5:00pm Roma vs. Real Madrid (ESPN Classic)
 6:00pm Roma vs. Real Madrid (Set Del)
 
 Wednesday, February 20
 
 11:00am FC Schalke vs. FC Porto (Set - 1st Air)
 1:00pm Lyon vs. Manchester Utd (Set - KO 2:45pm)
 2:30pm Arsenal vs. AC Milan (ESPN2)
 5:00pm Celtic vs. Barcelona (ESPN Classic)
 6:00pm Fenerbache vs. Sevilla (Set Del)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 18, 2008, 03:46:00 pm
if i had more than 2 sick days a year, i'd totally use one tomorrow
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Post by: Barcelona on February 18, 2008, 03:50:00 pm
Forza Roma!!
 
 I hope we do well in Glasgow on Wednesday.
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Post by: vansmack on February 18, 2008, 03:52:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  if i had more than 2 sick days a year, i'd totally use one tomorrow
Being on the east coast, can't you just duck out for the afternoon?  
 
 I remember shceduling a lot of 3 O'clock meetings at the Lucky Bar on Champions league Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
 
 It's a little tougher for me now - that's why I bought a slingbox.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 18, 2008, 04:07:00 pm
i'll end up just dvring a couple each day. tv is such a crap fest that i usually watch dudes yell about soccer on tuesday nights anyway
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 19, 2008, 10:41:00 am
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Forza Roma!!
 
 I hope we do well in Glasgow on Wednesday.
If you don't you should be ashamed of yourselves.....I used to play in the Scottish Premier League, or was it the Montgomery County over 30's leage????
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Post by: vansmack on February 19, 2008, 02:27:00 pm
If, like me you're insane, Derek Rae just said on WorldSoccerDaily that on the ESPN channels, they will not be saying the other match scores out loud or showing them in popup boxes except at half time.  Setanta will be showing the other scores and discussing them.
 
 So I recommend watching the ESPN2 then Classic matches before the Setanta matches.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 19, 2008, 02:46:00 pm
setanta is like crack. i hate it so much but i'm totally addicted. i mean that maureen puppet isnt even funny
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Post by: brennser on February 19, 2008, 08:24:00 pm
god I hate Liverpool
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Post by: Barcelona on February 19, 2008, 09:58:00 pm
I dislike the two teams in Milan and Chelsea more than Liverpool (not to mention the right-wingers in Madrid). Actually, I have lots of respect for Liverpool, not sure what it is, maybe the way they won 3 years ago against Milan or maybe the fact that they don't have any big star in the team, except for Gerrard. This is the player I would want in Barcelona, he is great, what about his goal tonight.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 19, 2008, 11:21:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  god I hate Liverpool
"
 
 more than any team in england except scumderland
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Post by: vansmack on February 20, 2008, 01:12:00 pm
Liverpool were shit, lucky to win despite playing with a man advantage at home for nearly an hour.  I'm not one to defend an Eye-Talian, but Matarassi's sending off was dubious at best.  Of course, he's Italian so he probably deserved it for something else he's done in the past anyway.
 
 Gerrard's goal was a mistake that found the back of the net.  Nothing more.
 
 Chelsea looked like crap and I've seen better satellite feeds on a video game than what I saw on ESPN Classic.  Did anybody watch the Setanta feed - was it any better?
 
 Real had an opportunity to put Roma away early, but failed and really paid the price.  Credit to Roma for not quitting after giving up the first goal and nearly the second and third.
 
 All in all a bit of a disappointment for a day I was really looking forward to.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 20, 2008, 01:20:00 pm
how bad were ibrahimovic and viera? viera's been hurt, but jeez
 
 i kind of thought that the first card was a bit of a dive on torres's part
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Post by: Barcelona on February 20, 2008, 10:39:00 pm
quite happy for today´s game in Glasgow. we may be recovering Ronaldinho, Henry, Messi and Deco, and Etoo is back from the Africa cup. These players along with Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol and the rest can fight for the Champions League and the spanish league, difficult but not impossible.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 21, 2008, 10:59:00 am
All I can say is I'd rather tie 1-1 away than 0-0 at home   :p  
 
 Also, what am I missing with Gerrard? I find him totally average. Scum do quite well with a team of average players and Gerrard is just one of them, as it shows only too well when he's on a squad of great players like England. (England's underachievement accepted BTW, but they do still have great players)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 21, 2008, 12:37:00 pm
when i watch liverpool play well, they have 10 guys doing exactly what the system tells them to do and stevie g freelancing. the way he plays and the what he says in the press, he does not believe in the system and he doesnt believe in rafa. now, if rafa can grab 4th and keep his job, his best move would be to sell gerrard. he needs to buy the players to compete with arse, manusa and chelski in the league and gerrard would get them a boatload of cash. of course you even mention that to a liverpool supporter and they get all    :eek:   on you, so i dont know if he could get away with it
 
 of course they could finish fifth, fire rafa, lose a bunch of the players that love him. i know they have some financial issues, maybe smackie can shed a little more light on that though
 
 i guess what i'm trying to say is i pretty much agree with mankie
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Post by: vansmack on February 22, 2008, 05:40:00 pm
Saturday, February 23
 
 7:30am Birmingham City vs. Arsenal (Set)
 9:45am Liverpool vs. Middlesbrough (Set)
 10:00am Fulham vs. West Ham (FSC)
 12:00pm Newcastle vs. Manchester United (FSC)
 12:15pm Portsmouth vs. Sunderland (Set Del)
 4:30pm Wigan vs. Derby (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, February 24
 
 7:30am Reading vs. Aston Villa (Set)
 9:30am Carling Cup - Final: Tottenham vs. Chelsea (Set)
 11:00am Blackburn vs. Bolton (FSC)
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 22, 2008, 06:00:00 pm
Shoeshine, one single player is never bigger than the whole....Beckham, Stam and Nistlerooy can attest to that. United fans couldn't believe Fergie dumped any of them but we got over it and moved on. (even though I still think he was wrong to get rid of Becks) Admittedly scousers aren't exactly blessed with intelligence, so probably couldn't get past the fact Rafa got rid of one of their own, but anyone with a brain can see what a great manager he is by what he's achieved with the players he'd got.
 
 Put it this way...if they sack Rafa and O'Neill gets the job, Villa should jump all over Rafa and they'd be getting the better deal in my opinion. My 80 year old mother could win the SPL with Celtic for crying out loud.
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Post by: brennser on February 23, 2008, 03:55:00 pm
that was almost too easy - Newcastle have big big problems
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 24, 2008, 11:00:00 am
guess kev improved newcastle 2 goals vs fat sam. only 5 to go
 
 guess that wasnt technically on sam, but i'm kidding anyway
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 24, 2008, 02:07:00 pm
I guess Keegans tactics haven't changed over the years....but you think he might have learned by now that you do actually need a defensive game plan!!!
 
 Congrats to Spurs....chelski won't win shit this season, and hopefully the rich russian will get board and they'll be playing Leeds United by 2010. If Leeds are still around in 2010 that is.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 24, 2008, 02:45:00 pm
i think its the players more than the tactics. no passing from the central mids, sub par passing from the mids, attackers that cant make plays, shambolic defenders, and ZOGS IS NOT A LEFT BACK
 
 but then again, apparently no one else on the team is either. sam set us back even further than we were. seems like nearly everyone below newcastle lost this weekend, though
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Post by: vansmack on February 28, 2008, 06:35:00 pm
SATURDAY MARCH 1
 
 9:30am Fulham vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 9:30am West Ham vs. Chelsea (Set Xtra)
 10:00am Arsenal  vs .  Aston Villa (FSC)  
 12:00pm Manchester City  vs. Wigan  (FSC)
 2:45pm West Ham vs. Chelsea (SDC)
 4:30pm Newcastle  vs. Blackburn (FSC)  
 6:00pm Birmingham City vs. Tottenham (SDC)
 7:45pm Derby County vs. Sunderland (SDC)
 
 SUNDAY, MARCH 2
 
 7:30am Bolton vs. Liverpool (KO 8:30am - SET)
 11:00am Everton  vs. Portsmouth (FSC)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 28, 2008, 09:04:00 pm
sdc = setanta?
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Post by: vansmack on February 28, 2008, 09:17:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  sdc = setanta?
Setanta Delayed (I'm not sure what the C stands for, communication, channel?) but it simply means that the match is not a live Setanta broadcast.
 
 And of course Set Xtra means channel 670 on DirecTV.  It's not available on Cable or Dish, just ITVN, Broadband and DirecTV.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 29, 2008, 10:35:00 am
interesting, never saw it called that before. of course setanta will spoil all three during the man u match   :roll:  
 
 my goal for saturday is not to throw up in my mouth. could be the first time for a league game in 2008
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Post by: vansmack on February 29, 2008, 06:57:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  interesting, never saw it called that before.
When I get the info off of Setanta's site, I usually change it to (Set Del).  I just got lazy this week.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 02, 2008, 10:21:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  my goal for saturday is not to throw up in my mouth. could be the first time for a league game in 2008
unsuccessful attempt
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 03, 2008, 11:26:00 am
I'm just wondering what the time added on to allow arse'nil to score limit is? 10? 15 minutes? What do you think?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 03, 2008, 11:34:00 am
i didnt think it was that bad
 
 villa lived so dangerously on those corners and crosses all day. how many balls did randy moss head over the crossbar?
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Post by: vansmack on March 03, 2008, 02:41:00 pm
It was 3 minutes and they scored at 92:23.  And there was a yellow issued to a Villa player for time wasting during stoppage time as well.
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Post by: vansmack on March 03, 2008, 02:50:00 pm
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: First Knockout Stage - Second Leg
 
 Tuesday, March 4

 
 2:45pm Man Utd vs. Lyon (Set)
 2:45pm AC Milan vs. Arsenal (ESPN2)
 6:00pm Seville vs. Fenerbahce (SDC)
 
 The Barca/Celtic match is only on ESPN Deportes and ESPN 360.
 
 Wednesday, March 5
 
 2:00pm Real Madrid vs. AS Roma (Set)
 2:45pm Chelsea vs. Olympiacos (ESPN2)
 11:00pm FC Schalke vs. Porto (SDC)
 
 Liverpool vs. Inter is to be played on 3/11.
 
 Don't forget to extrend your DVRs as well - these matches cannot end in a tie on the aggregate.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 03, 2008, 03:21:00 pm
thanks, i almost forgot these were on. i got caught up in liverpool as the toon face them on saturday. pool has hammers on wednesday, toon saturday and inter next tuesday. rafa the rotator has gotta sit torres for that middle game against the weakest opponent. right? right??
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Post by: vansmack on March 03, 2008, 03:52:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  pool has hammers on wednesday,
Which reminds me:
 
 Wednesday, March 5
 
 6:00pm Liverpool vs. West Ham (SDC)
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Post by: vansmack on March 03, 2008, 03:55:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   rafa the rotator has gotta sit torres for that middle game against the weakest opponent. right? right??
Spoken like the true fan of a team in a relegation battle...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 03, 2008, 05:08:00 pm
jus sayin
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 03, 2008, 05:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  jus sayin
I think scum could put clumsy Kewell up front as a loan striker and they'd still give the toon defense major headaches..
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 03, 2008, 08:00:00 pm
defense looked ok on saturday
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Post by: vansmack on March 03, 2008, 11:18:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  The Barca/Celtic match is only on ESPN Deportes and ESPN 360.
 
Actually, my DVR says this match will be on ESPN Classic at 5:00.  ESPN's web page didn't list the match, but I trust my DVR.
 
 Tuesday, March 4
 
 5:00 Barcelona vs. Celtic (ESPN Classic)
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 04, 2008, 06:05:00 pm
...and marching on to the quarters!!!!!
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Post by: Barcelona on March 05, 2008, 08:32:00 am
What a performance by Arsenal, and especially by Cesc Fabregas. Such a young team and so much better than Manchester United, Fenerbache, or Barcelona, the other three teams that qualified to the last eight last night.
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Post by: vansmack on March 05, 2008, 02:07:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  What a performance by Arsenal, and especially by Cesc Fabregas. Such a young team and so much better than Manchester United, Fenerbache, or Barcelona, the other three teams that qualified to the last eight last night.
Arsenal were by far the best team last night, and that's not easy for me to say. They made AC Milan look old. But that was only one night.  I recall a night last year where United were practiaclly handed the trophy after shredding Roma and we all know how that turned out.
 
 The Fenerbahce match was very exciting as well, however, that was the one match I didn't extend my DVR (despite my own warnings) so I didn't see the PKs.  Nonetheless, in regulation time, I was very entertained.
 
 And, lest I forget, Barca's first goal was the goal of the tournament thus far.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 05, 2008, 02:27:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
   Such a young team and so much better than Manchester United,
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1104352/manchester_united_4_arsenal_0_fa_cup_round_6/ (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1104352/manchester_united_4_arsenal_0_fa_cup_round_6/)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 05, 2008, 02:31:00 pm
uh, i read it as the arse were better last night
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Post by: Barcelona on March 06, 2008, 11:56:00 am
And Real Madrid is out, great!!! although not perfect week since Messi is out for another six weeks.
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Post by: vansmack on March 06, 2008, 06:23:00 pm
Saturday, March 8
 
 7:45am FA Cup: Man United vs. Portsmouth (PPV - $16)
 9:45am Liverpool vs. Newcastle Utd (Set)
 10:00am Blackburn vs. Fulham (FSC)
 12:30pm FA Cup: Barnsley vs. Chelsea (FSC)  
 2:30pm Reading vs. Manchester City (SDC)
 4:30pm Reading vs. Manchester City (FSC)
 
 Why one of them won't pick up Blackburn/Fulham is beyond me.
 
   
 Sunday, March 9
 
 10:00am FA Cup: Middlesbrough vs. Cardiff City (PPV - $16)
 11:00am Tottenham vs. West Ham (Set)
 12:00pm Wigan vs. Arsenal (FSC)  
 1:00pm Sunderland vs. Everton (SDC)
 5:30pm FA Cup: Bristol Rovers vs. West Bromwich  Albion (FSC)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 08, 2008, 02:36:00 pm
glad the prem is on in the morning. i dont know that my liver could take this season
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2008, 02:46:00 pm
That was disapointing, although if we're not going to win one of the three trophies up for grabs it would be the that one.
 
 Did anyone see the game? Was the ref as biased towards Pompey as I'm reading on the BBC website? Should it have been a penalty for United early on in the first half?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2008, 04:32:00 pm
Hmmmmmm...Barnsley 1 - 0 Chelski
 
 Not such a bad day after all....
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Post by: vansmack on March 09, 2008, 01:55:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Did anyone see the game? Was the ref as biased towards Pompey as I'm reading on the BBC website? Should it have been a penalty for United early on in the first half?
Of course I watched it.  Pompey had no business winning that match.  United were the far better team, just simply couldn't score (with a tremendous amount of good fortune for Pompey).  After about 20 minutes, the announcer said "with all their good fortune throughout this tourney, you'd have to think their name is already etched on the cup" and they just enjoying good fortune.    
 
 Yes, it absolutely should have been a penalty in the first half for Ronaldo. And while Kuszczak was cetainly guilty of a penalty, the red card was harsh as there were two defenders behind the keeper (but it was the keeper who fouled which almost always results in a red card).
 
 And in case you missed it, Cardiff knocked of Boro today.
 
 And of course, Arsenal just drew with Wigan.  So what started off as a rough weekend has ended fairly nicely.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 10, 2008, 10:10:00 am
You're forgetting Englad got beat by Scotland in the 6 nations so I've been sick to my stomach all weekend. That one hurts...really hurts.
 
 But you're right. Wigan did us a favor and that sentimental French team who happens to train in London will probably have a hard time recovering from a result like that, and their captain is probably still sat on the pitch sucking his thumb...so advantage United in the Premiership..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 10, 2008, 07:32:00 pm
Sorry Mank - rugby has not entered my atmosphere.
 
 Tuesday, March 11
 
 12:30pm Champion's League: Inter Milan vs. Liverpool
 
 Wednesday, March 12
 
 3:30pm UEFA Cup - Everton vs. Fiorentina (FSC)  
 4:00pm Chelsea vs. Derby County (Set)
 6:00pm Aston Villa v. Middlesbrough (FSC)  
 6:30pm Portsmouth vs. Birmingham City (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 11, 2008, 09:15:00 am
i watch rugby every once in a while. i like munster and ireland
 
 but i kind of have no idea whats going on
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 11, 2008, 10:42:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i watch rugby every once in a while. i like munster and ireland
 
 but i kind of have no idea whats going on
Munster would be my club team because we lived in the province of Munster.....although I have a mate who's on the coaching staff of the Saracens.
 
 It's really quite simple, all metres gained must be run so you can only pass backwards, when you see them kick it up field it's usually because they're making no ground so 'punting' it to  use an American term. The scrum just gets the game going again after some sort of infraction. The line out is just when the ball has gone out of bounds to the side.......if you take the time to learn the rules you'll probably enjoy it more than football.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 11, 2008, 10:58:00 am
munster is where my father's family came from back during the potato famine
 
 how does the scoring work? i guess its makes more sense now that i read your post. as opposed to just turning on the tv
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 11, 2008, 12:01:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  munster is where my father's family came from back during the potato famine
 
 how does the scoring work? i guess its makes more sense now that i read your post. as opposed to just turning on the tv
A try (touchdown) is 5 points
 conversion (extra point) 2 points
 drop goal, which is when it is kicked between the posts during open play is 3 points.
 A penalty (field goal) is 3 points
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 11, 2008, 12:10:00 pm
i'll give it another try
 
 i was thinking of switching to serie a if newcastle gets relegated, but maybe i'll just watch rugby   :p
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 11, 2008, 03:36:00 pm
You could also watch the Championship if Newcastle go down. A lot of Brits are switching to the Championship as their league of choice because you can, well, watch British players playing the game, and there's a lot less diving and feigning injury etc. and evidently the ref'ing is a much higher quality.
 
 They featured games on Friday nights when I was back in Ireland, then on Sundays they had a 'match of the day' for just the championship, and I have to say it was refreshing to see. There's no eye-popping displays of individual skills but it's quality football nonetheless.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 11, 2008, 03:44:00 pm
i think setanta in the states only has games a couple times a month from the fizzy pop. all of these switches would be until newcastle made it back up, because i just couldnt deal with rooting for arsenal or something for 9 months
 
 speaking of the toon, at least a point from brum on monday is needed. bolton has the worst of the fixtures going forward so we need to just get points where we can. i think even 8 would do it. we just cant flipping score
 
 would munster bring less tears? roma would be my serie a team (closest to my maternal side's roots). at least they make the champions league    :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 11, 2008, 04:05:00 pm
The last year we spent in Cork Munster won the Heineken trophy, which is a European contest so pretty darn good. I think the following season they struggled, like most franchises in any sport seem to do after a great season. I'm not sure how they're doing this season to be honest as it's hard to keep track.
 
 If you follow Munster you will have to learn to dislike Leinster, which is the province Dublin is in. There's not really 'hate' in rugby like there is in football because there's too much respect between teams. It's a healthy rivalry in rugby and a great atmosphere drinking in the pubs with your rival fans and singing along together before the game, then back in the pub and repeat the process after the game regardless of the result.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on March 11, 2008, 04:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  would munster bring less tears? roma would be my serie a team (closest to my maternal side's roots). at least they make the champions league     :(  
Munster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munster_Rugby) are good, certainly the most successful Irish province of the last 30 years....won the European Cup, beat the All Blacks in 77 etc etc....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 11, 2008, 05:18:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
     
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  would munster bring less tears? roma would be my serie a team (closest to my maternal side's roots). at least they make the champions league        :)   They even wrote a play about it, and a book!!
 
   <img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512KK4243FL._SS500_.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 13, 2008, 12:58:00 pm
so bolton isnt even going to try to advance in the uefa cup?
 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=516175&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=516175&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 14, 2008, 12:46:00 pm
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW
 
 Quarter-finals
 
 Tuesday, April 1  
 
 AS Roma v Manchester United
 Schalke 04 v Barcelona
 
 Wednesday, April 2  
 
 Arsenal v Liverpool
 Fenerbahce v Chelsea
 
 
 Tuesday, April 8  
 
 Liverpool v Arsenal  
 Chelsea v Fenerbahce
 
 
 Wednesday, April 9  
 
 Manchester United v AS Roma  
 Barcelona v Schalke 04
 
 
 Semi-Finals:
 
 Ties to be played April 22 or 23 and 29 or 30  
 
 Arsenal/Liverpool v Fenerbahce/Chelsea
 Schalke/Barcelona v Roma/Man Utd
 
 
 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL
 
 Will be played in Moscow, Russia, on May 21, 2008.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 14, 2008, 01:01:00 pm
i saw that. i figured you manusa supporters would be going bonkers
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 14, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
SATURDAY MARCH 15
 
 11:00am Derby County vs. Manchester Utd (SET)
 11:00am Liverpool vs Reading (FSC)  
 1:00am Arsenal vs Middlesbrough (FSC)
 1:15pm Sunderland vs. Chelsea (SET)
 3:00pm West Ham vs. Blackburn (SET)
 11:00pm Portsmouth vs Aston Villa (FSC)
 
 SUNDAY MARCH 16
   
 9:30am Fulham vs. Everton (SET)
 12:00pm Manchester City vs Tottenham  (FSC)  
 11:00pm Wigan vs. Bolton (Set)
 
 MONDAY MARCH 17
 
 4:00pm Birmingham City vs. Newcastle Utd (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 14, 2008, 03:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i saw that. i figured you manusa supporters would be going bonkers
Why? We got the toughest draw yet again...chelski get the easy one...yet again!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 14, 2008, 03:24:00 pm
bonkers given the recent history between your lot and the roma ultras. i figured youd be either excited to stick it to them or angry at the prospect of more violence
 
 id say barca or arse would be a tougher draw, though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 14, 2008, 03:33:00 pm
Oh I'm sure the Italian polizia will beat the shit out of the United fans just for the hell of it, then the media report about the English soccer hooligans. You know, the usual stuff.
 
 As for the Roma Ultra's...nothing will be mentioned about them as per.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 14, 2008, 03:42:00 pm
No comment.  I once saw a draw where United got Porto and I was very excited.  We all know how that turned out.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 14, 2008, 03:55:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  No comment.  I once saw a draw where United got Porto and I was very excited.  We all know how that turned out.
Yeah....I remember that one, it was probably the weakest squad United have had in a long time though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 15, 2008, 11:43:00 am
i just realized i have to root for el ameripool today (as i type its 1-1). good thing there will be beer later
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 15, 2008, 03:29:00 pm
Back where we belong.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 15, 2008, 04:01:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Back where we belong.
:D  
 
 Indeed!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 10:48:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i just realized i have to root for el ameripool today (as i type its 1-1). good thing there will be beer later
FYI...this American reference has become old....it might do toon a world of good to get a rich footie-ignorant yank onboard. It hasn't done United any harm (see premiership table and champions league quarter final draw) or Liverpool (see premiership table and champions league quarter final draw) for evidence of that.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 11:02:00 am
we have a rich footy-ignorant ENGLISH owner, and its done fuckall. i'm not sure what being american will do, except increase our debt. lerner actually knows a thing or two, but comparing us to el ameripool or manusa is kind of silly
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 11:51:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  we have a rich footy-ignorant ENGLISH owner, and its done fuckall. i'm not sure what being american will do, except increase our debt. lerner actually knows a thing or two, but comparing us to el ameripool or manusa is kind of silly
Why is it 'silly'? You all consider yourselves a 'big club' not unlike chelski, when in reality you're just a barely average club. Admittedlyl St. James Park is less embarrassing than Stamford Bridge...but toon fans really are living in la-la land to think theyr'e one of the big clubs. I'd say Sunderland are bigger than toon. Certainly more organized as far as building the franchise.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 12:03:00 pm
the 'big club' debate is so vague. for the toon (and several other clubs) you can twist around the definition until you arrive at the conclusion you want. no i dont think we are a big club, and really only see three: man u, arsenal and liverpool
 
 liverpool and manchester united were both bought with good to great players and top shelf managers. toon was bought with mediocre players and a shite manager. that's why its silly. of course those americans dont realize how good rafa is, and they nearly sacked him a couple months back
 
 as far as scumderland go, they are a total sleeping giant, and if they can stay up for two or three years straight watch out. keano seems to be a good motivator, but i think his transfer judgement is limited to former man u/celtic players and irish and scot youngsters.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 12:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  keano seems to be a good motivator, but i think his transfer judgement is limited to former man u/celtic players and irish and scot youngsters.
I agree with you on that one...he needs a 'director of football' to bring in new talent who don't come from UTD or Celtic. He does seem to have an Irish/Scots agenda too, but that's not unprecedented..... Arsenal being the biggest culprit with their French agenda (French manager) and Liverscum with their Spanish agenda (Spanish manager)...do we see a pattern here?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 12:36:00 pm
supposedly they are going to go after alan smith in the summer. the joke between fans of both sides is who is going to pay who
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 12:45:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  supposedly they are going to go after alan smith in the summer. the joke between fans of both sides is who is going to pay who
I'd take Smith over Michael O'wenotherinjuryhappen
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 12:52:00 pm
shit vs poop
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 12:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  shit vs poop
What are we talking about now? A Tyneside derby???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 01:00:00 pm
hahaha
 
 if we stay up, it ought to be interesting who stays. i bet stupid ass mike owen somehow stays and starts ever game. and scores in single digits
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 02:53:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hahaha
 
 if we stay up, it ought to be interesting who stays. i bet stupid ass mike owen somehow stays and starts ever game. and scores in single digits
The whole team will probably finish in single digits, never mind Mikey..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
i meant next year. but whatever
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 04:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i meant next year. but whatever
Yeah....me too..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 04:22:00 pm
i'd take that bet
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 04:32:00 pm
THIS JUST IN
 
 Mikey Owen just blasts it over the bar...that fucker should've been a place kicker.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 04:39:00 pm
ONE - NIL...ONE - NIL....ONE - NIL
 
    :p
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 07:44:00 pm
should have scored a second. oba is such a disruptive force, he has to play. dont know what kev has against him. he made that goal
 
 how bad were those free kicks? guess thats what we get with no jimmy mils or zogs. we needed a point, 3 would have been nice, but i really was not feeling good about it anyway. kind of relieved
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 19, 2008, 01:20:00 pm
Wednesday, March 19
 
 4:00pm Manchester United vs. Bolton (FSC)
 4:00pm Tottenham vs. Chelsea (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 21, 2008, 03:50:00 pm
Saturday, March 22
 
 8:30am Tottenham vs. Portsmouth (Set)
 10:45am Aston Villa vs. Sunderland (Set)
 11:00am Newcastle vs. Fulham (FSC)
 1:00pm Everton vs. West Ham (FSC)
 6:30pm Bolton vs. Manchester City (Set)
 8:00pm Reading vs. Birmingham City (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, March 23
 
 9:30am Manchester Utd vs. Liverpool (Set)
 11:30am Blackburn vs. Wigan (Set)
 12:00pm Chelsea vs. Arsenal (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 21, 2008, 04:15:00 pm
awesome. love it when the toon have the 10/11 am fsc game
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 21, 2008, 04:27:00 pm
anyone want to predict the scores of the big four?
 
 I'd say they're all too close to call but I'll go for it.
 
 Man Utd 2 - 1 scum
 Arse 1 - chelski
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 21, 2008, 04:49:00 pm
at ot and stamford bridge right?
 
 man u wins 3-1
 1-1 tie in the other
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 24, 2008, 11:54:00 am
looks like chelski got 'pool's goal in my prediction  ;)
 
 mascherano, what a clown
 
 good win for toon as well. long time coming, and really needed. just want to say that jimmy bullard is vastly overrated. barton took the ball off of him more times than i could count
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 24, 2008, 12:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  looks like chelski got 'pool's goal in my prediction   ;)  
 
 mascherano, what a clown
 
 good win for toon as well. long time coming, and really needed. just want to say that jimmy bullard is vastly overrated. barton took the ball off of him more times than i could count
Barton is good at stealing things...it's bred into filthy scouse dirtbags!
 
 Scumpool have failed to get a result from Utd in the last 8 meetings so I have just one thing to sing....
 
 "CAN WE PLAY YOU EVERY WEEK, CAN WE PLA'A'A'AY YO'O'O'OU EV'RY WE'E'E'K!!"
 
 As usual I didn't get to see the game but I assume the red card was deserved going by the reports.
 
 Congrats to the toon, even though I can't stand Keegan.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 24, 2008, 01:49:00 pm
you dont like keegan? i couldnt tell   :p  
 
 i thought the first yellow was borderline, but he complained when it was given and never stopped. after all that has been said by the fa during the week, players had to know that they needed to cap it, and the commentators on setenta seemed to think it was coming too. really no sympathy from me as a mostly impartial observer
 
 shame that one of the biggest fixtures of the season came down to that, but not the ref's fault in my eyes
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 24, 2008, 01:58:00 pm
He ran 30 yards just to bitch about another player who just received a yellow card for bitching.  And after being warned, he still wouldn't shut up.  I really don't know what the guy was thinking.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 24, 2008, 02:22:00 pm
So what do you think. Do we have it wrapped up yet?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 24, 2008, 02:39:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  So what do you think. Do we have it wrapped up yet?
Well, we still play both of our chasers, but both of them are also still alive in Europe, which I think greatly helps United who have the deepest squad.
 
 I would not want to be Arsenal right now with a trip to Bolton, Liverpool (home), Liverpool (home), Liverpool (Anfield) and then a trip to Old Trafford.
 
 Chelsea have a softer schedule, but also have trips to Goodison and The City of Light before they have United at Stamford Bridge.
 
 I don't think it's wrapped up just yet, but I do like the 5 point cushion and the HUGE goal differential.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 25, 2008, 11:01:00 am
Finally, an England manager with a pair big enough to go for the best choice and not the most popular...
 
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7312855.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7312855.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 25, 2008, 11:16:00 am
thank god its not terry
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 25, 2008, 11:30:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  thank god its not terry
Or Gerrard.
 
 
 I was trying to figure out who would be the best choice and I came up with Rio myself....but only through process of elmination as nobody jumps out at me as a 'leader' to be honest. Rooney will be a great captain in a few years but he's still maturing and subject to losing his cool.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 25, 2008, 11:40:00 am
agreed on gerrard
 
 i read something on the english captaincy last week, and actually came away thinking rooney myself. i was going to bring it up here, but i didnt want to make you too happy   :p  
 
 i do like the idea of trying a few people out before a final decision. i think rio deserves a run out. at least you know he wont try and take the card out of the refs hand
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 25, 2008, 12:18:00 pm
Rooney is not there yet, but it's his job for the taking (as it is at Old Trafford as well).  He just needs to grow up a bit.
 
 I like the Rio nod.  What he's done with the back four at United is vastly underrated.  For all the applause the Goals For Number gets, it's the ridiculously low Goals Against number that has given United the differential it enjoys.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 25, 2008, 12:29:00 pm
I just don't think a striker is the ideal position to captain a team. A full back or midfielder can see the how the game is unfolding much better than a striker can. Besides, you never see Generals leading armies from the front lines!  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 25, 2008, 12:42:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
   Besides, you never see Generals leading armies from the front lines!   ;)  
Except Patton.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 25, 2008, 02:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
   Besides, you never see Generals leading armies from the front lines!    ;)  
Except Patton. [/b]
I meant real armies.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 25, 2008, 03:18:00 pm
wasnt cantona captain
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 25, 2008, 04:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  wasnt cantona captain
I don't think they even let him play for his country, never mind captain it.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 25, 2008, 04:40:00 pm
captain of man u, is what i meant  
 
 according to wikipedia he was briefly captain of france before his 'incident'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 25, 2008, 04:47:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  captain of man u, is what i meant  
 
 according to wikipedia he was briefly captain of france before his 'incident'
Oh right...yes he was. Then Keano took over if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 27, 2008, 09:49:00 am
Ford film saved by Manchester United
 
 http://uk.news.yahoo.com/wenn/20080327/ten-ford-film-saved-by-manchester-united-c60bd6d.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/wenn/20080327/ten-ford-film-saved-by-manchester-united-c60bd6d.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 28, 2008, 07:55:00 pm
Sorry about the late posting.  I just woke up from the France-England match...
 
 Saturday, March 29
 
 11:00am Bolton vs. Arsenal (Set)
 11:00am Derby vs. Fulham (FSC)
 1:00pm Manchester United vs. Aston Villa (FSC)
 6:00pm Sunderland vs. West Ham (SDC)
 7:45pm Reading vs. Blackburn (SDC)
 
 Sunday, March 30
 
 8:30am Chelsea vs. Middlesbrough (Set)
 11:00am Liverpool vs. Everton (FSC)  
 4:30pm Tottenham vs. Newcastle (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 29, 2008, 12:00:00 pm
watching the arse match live....
 
 
 and seriously what the fuck
 bummed about the delay tomorrow. kind of weird but whatever. should be high scoring
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 29, 2008, 03:52:00 pm
whew, nevermind
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 30, 2008, 01:38:00 pm
NEWSFLASH@!!!!!
 
 Newcastly United have reportedly scored FUOR goals in a single game, which has doubled their goal total for the current season!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 30, 2008, 08:02:00 pm
fuor?   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2008, 11:30:00 am
Mexico Hires Bruce Arena as National Team Coach (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/04/mexico-to-hire.html)
 
 Just a day after firing Mexican legend Hugo Sanchez as head coach of the Mexican national team, the Mexican Football Federation has found his replacement and it is a familiar face to U.S. national team fans.
 
 Former U.S. national team, D.C. United and Red Bulls coach Bruce Arena will be named the new head coach of the Mexican national team at a press conference in Mexico City on Tuesday. Arena will sign a contract that will run through the 2010 World Cup.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2008, 11:35:00 am
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE QUARTERFINALS
 
 Tuesday, April 1
 
 2:30 Roma vs. Manchester United (ESPN2)
 2:30 Schalke vs. Barcelona (Set)
 5:00 Schalke vs. Barcelona (ESPN Classic Replay)
 
 Wednesday, April 2
 
 2:30 Arsenal vs. Liverpool (ESPN2)
 2:30 Fenerbache vs. Chelsea (Set)
 5:00 Fenerbache vs. Chelsea (ESPN Classic Replay)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 01, 2008, 11:44:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Mexico Hires Bruce Arena as National Team Coach (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/04/mexico-to-hire.html)
 
 Just a day after firing Mexican legend Hugo Sanchez as head coach of the Mexican national team, the Mexican Football Federation has found his replacement and it is a familiar face to U.S. national team fans.
 
 Former U.S. national team, D.C. United and Red Bulls coach Bruce Arena will be named the new head coach of the Mexican national team at a press conference in Mexico City on Tuesday. Arena will sign a contract that will run through the 2010 World Cup.
That will piss the Mexicans off big time having a gringo as their head coach..an American gringo too!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 01, 2008, 11:44:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Mexico Hires Bruce Arena as National Team Coach (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/04/mexico-to-hire.html)
 
 Just a day after firing Mexican legend Hugo Sanchez as head coach of the Mexican national team, the Mexican Football Federation has found his replacement and it is a familiar face to U.S. national team fans.
 
 Former U.S. national team, D.C. United and Red Bulls coach Bruce Arena will be named the new head coach of the Mexican national team at a press conference in Mexico City on Tuesday. Arena will sign a contract that will run through the 2010 World Cup.
april fools?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2008, 11:59:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 april fools?
Yes.  But at 7:30 this morning when I openend up Soccer by Ives I had no idea what day it was.  Totally fooled me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 01, 2008, 12:05:00 pm
this day makes the internet unbearable
 
 anyhow, dont know if i'll get to watch the matches today, but no totti for roma = no prayer
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 01, 2008, 12:14:00 pm
here's a couple of other ones:
 http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=385574 (http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=385574)
 
 http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=642487 (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=642487)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 01, 2008, 05:29:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  here's a couple of other ones:
  http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=385574 (http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=385574)
 
  http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=642487 (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=642487)
I'm all messed up with the calender, I thought it was April 1st when they appointed Keegan as the new boss at St. James.
 
 
 I see a stroll in the Roma park for the mighty red devils this evening.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 01, 2008, 05:44:00 pm
Club strip teases faithful fans  
 
 Plymouth Argyle FC decided to capitalise on its Scottish manager and half a dozen Scottish players by changing to a new tartan away kit.
 
 It ordered and displayed a prototype outfit and announced the decision on its club website on Tuesday morning.
 
 Fans and media began to show an interest when star signing Steve McLean posed with the new kit.
 
 But it was an elaborate April Fool hoax - in fact, the team will be wearing a tangerine and green kit for 2008-09.
 
 Steve Hill, from the club's media department, said:"It was just a bit of fun. Quite a few people, including at least one team member, were caught out by it."
 
 The Championship club,with an average home attendance of more than 13,000 supporters, came clean on its website on Tuesday afternoon and confessed all.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2008, 05:59:00 pm
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
 
 I see a stroll in the Roma park for the mighty red devils this evening.
They didn't look sas good as they did on Saturday (Ronaldo looked as good as I've ever seen him on Saturday), but they played extremely well in Italy.  Without Totti, Roma looked punchless.
 
 Vidic took a concerning knock (knee) in the first half and left on the cart.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 02, 2008, 09:02:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
 
 I see a stroll in the Roma park for the mighty red devils this evening.
They didn't look sas good as they did on Saturday (Ronaldo looked as good as I've ever seen him on Saturday), but they played extremely well in Italy.  Without Totti, Roma looked punchless.
 
 Vidic took a concerning knock (knee) in the first half and left on the cart. [/b]
The good thing for Manchester is thay they are almost in the final. Barcelona is going through its worst crisis of the last five years and no one believes the team will beat Manchester United. Ronaldinho might not play again for Barcelona, Deco seems not keen on playing football at all. Marquez the same thing, although yesterday he played a few minutes. And the rest either injured or with a lack of confidence that is astonishing.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 02, 2008, 09:23:00 pm
Two very entertaining games today.
 
 A wise man once told me you never want to have to go to Turkey.  It's nice a place to visit, but anytime you have to go to Turkey it can't be good.   Chelsea found that out tonight.  Fenerbahce were shit in the first half - coudn't have looked worse.  But Chelsea failed to capitalize and boy did they pay the price in the second half.  Deivid's game winner was exquisite.
 
 Other than the last 15 minutes or so, I found the Arsenal/Liverpool match entertaining as well.  Liverpool has to be feeling good about the result, but it very easily could have gone either way.  A tie was probably a just result.  I was rooting for Arsenal injuries and I got one in Van Persie getting hurt again.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 04, 2008, 03:49:00 pm
Saturday, April 5
 
 7:30am Arsenal vs. Liverpool (set)
 10:00am Newcastle vs. Reading (FSC)
 10:00am Manchester City vs. Chelsea (Set)
 12:00pm Aston Villa  Bolton (FSC)
 6:00pm Fulham vs. Sunderland (SDC)
 7:45pm Blackburn vs. Tottenham (SDC)
 
 Sunday, April 6
 
 8:30am Middlesbrough vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 4:30pm Everton vs. Derby (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 04, 2008, 04:24:00 pm
cl kind of takes the luster off of the best match this weekend. supposedly torres and gerrard are going to get rotated too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 04, 2008, 04:27:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  cl kind of takes the luster off of the best match this weekend. supposedly torres and gerrard are going to get rotated too
Still, it is great to have three games between Arsenal and Liverpool in six days. Great for football.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 04, 2008, 04:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  cl kind of takes the luster off of the best match this weekend. supposedly torres and gerrard are going to get rotated too
How 'bout Setanta getting Liverpool, Arsenal, United and Chelsea all in the same weekend?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 04, 2008, 04:39:00 pm
I'd like to see all three games between arse and scum end up as a draw...both drop a couple of points in the league and have to play o/t in the champs lge...tired legs being the result. Add to that tempers will be stretched by game three so we might see some supsensions. Then if shitty do their cross-town loveable neighbours a favour this weekend United could pretty much have it wrapped up by Monday. Having said all that Boro always give utd fits for some reason so I'm taking nothing for granted.
 
 I see old Goofy at Barca is out for the season..more good news for UTD if we get past Roma.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 04, 2008, 08:49:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  cl kind of takes the luster off of the best match this weekend. supposedly torres and gerrard are going to get rotated too
How 'bout Setanta getting Liverpool, Arsenal, United and Chelsea all in the same weekend? [/b]
i didnt even notice that. i suppose that the shitty/chelski match could be mildly compelling as well
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 05, 2008, 09:17:00 am
You couldn't write this stuff for a movie. Your cross town rivals who hate  you with a passion because of an inferiority complex go a long way to handing you the title by taking points off you closest challengers.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 05, 2008, 12:19:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  You couldn't write this stuff for a movie. Your cross town rivals who hate  you with a passion because of an inferiority complex go a long way to handing you the title by taking points off you closest challengers.
If only shitty had helped us out as well...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 05, 2008, 01:33:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  You couldn't write this stuff for a movie. Your cross town rivals who hate  you with a passion because of an inferiority complex go a long way to handing you the title by taking points off you closest challengers.
If only shitty had helped us out as well... [/b]
Yeah fuck em!! You know they threw the game just to spite United...shitty even scored the first goal themselves for crying out loud!!!   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: serpent boy on April 05, 2008, 02:08:00 pm
:)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 05, 2008, 03:12:00 pm
Does the crazy lady still own the canaries?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: serpent boy on April 05, 2008, 08:53:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  Does the crazy lady still own the canaries?
Yep, Delia the drunkard is still around.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-KizC6wEys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-KizC6wEys)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 06, 2008, 04:55:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 Vidic took a concerning knock (knee) in the first half and left on the cart.
Both goals were scored where Vidic would normally be.  And as if it couldn't get worse, Rio limped off.  Eesh.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 07, 2008, 04:24:00 pm
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE QUARTERFINALS - 2nd LEG
 
 
 Tuesday, April 8
 
 2:30pm Liverpool vs. Arsenal (ESPN2)
 2:30pm Chelsea vs. Fenerbahce (Set, ESPN Classic @5)
 
 Wednesday, April 9
 
 2:30pm Manchester United vs. AS Roma (ESPN2)
 2:30pm Barcelona vs. FC Shalke (Set, ESPN Clasic @5)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 07, 2008, 04:56:00 pm
Not to worry, United have depth this season (for a change) I can't see them letting it slip away this late in the season, and rumour has it Cech was involved in a fight on the practice field with an unnamed player so Chelski are in a bit of a turmoil right now...I can honestly see them going out on Tuesday. Goals don't come easy for them and Fenerbache will just field 9 defenders and shut up shop.
 
 Arse are just too far away to chase the premiership and seem to be losing their nerve so I can see Liverpool going through.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 07, 2008, 04:58:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  rumour has it Cech was involved in a fight on the practice field with an unnamed player so Chelski are in a bit of a turmoil right now...I can honestly see them going out on Tuesday. Goals don't come easy for them and Fenerbache will just field 9 defenders and shut up shop.
 
His face was rebroken and he's out for at least two weeks.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 07, 2008, 05:20:00 pm
was it really a fight? i hadnt heard that
 
 at 38 points the toon is pretty much safe and not nearly as compelling
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 07, 2008, 05:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  at 38 points the toon is pretty much safe and not nearly as compelling
Yeah, who are these Newcastle players and what did you do with the team that was outscored by United in double digits?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 07, 2008, 05:29:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  was it really a fight? i hadnt heard that
 
 
Evidently Lampard was told Cech stole his pork pie from his locker so all hell broke loose!!!
 
 Seriously, I was lurking on the chelski fanboard on the BBC and read it was a fight...not sure who punched him but they thought it was Drogba. Not exactly a reliable source but just thought I'd report what I read.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 08, 2008, 10:39:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Yeah, who are these Newcastle players and what did you do with the team that was outscored by United in double digits?
they finally listened to the inspirational genius that is king kev    :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 08, 2008, 01:44:00 pm
Rio could actually play tomorrow so no biggie on the injury at the weekend.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 08, 2008, 04:33:00 pm
sooooooooooooooooo, was it a penalty?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 08, 2008, 04:49:00 pm
the press in spain says no
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 08, 2008, 06:11:00 pm
So does Arsen Wenger evidently!  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 08, 2008, 08:10:00 pm
god no, tell me its not liverpool chelzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2008, 11:45:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  sooooooooooooooooo, was it a penalty?
It was certainly not as bad as last weeks take down in the box that did not go Arsenal's way.
 
 Helluva match though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2008, 11:48:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  god no, tell me its not liverpool chelzzzzzzzzzzz
Indeed it is.  And after Chelsea scored at the 4 minute mark, that's exaclty what you got for the next 86 minutes....zzzzzzz.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 09, 2008, 12:15:00 pm
two boring unlikeable teams that have played each other like 20 times in four years. whats not to like
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2008, 03:27:00 pm
Saturday, April 10
 
 10:00am Tottenham vs. Middlesbrough (Set)
 10:00am Reading vs. Fulham (FSC)
 12:00pm Portsmouth vs. Newcastle (FSC)
 4:30pm Sunderland vs. Manchester City (SDC)
 6:15pm Derby County vs. Aston Villa (SDC)
 11:00pm Birmingham vs. Everton (FSC)
 
 Sunday, Arpil 13
 
 8:30am Liverpool vs. Blackburn (Set)  
 11:00am Manchester United vs. Arsenal (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2008, 06:18:00 pm
soooooooooooooooooo was Wes Browns take down a penalty?
 
 Actually, I'll answer that.
 
 In the EPL it's not and the striker gets a yellow for embelishment but in the gay european game it is. It was just poetic justice he sent it skyward.
 
 A solid display by United who were always in control of the game, even when Roma got a bit of momentum United never looked troubled.
 
 Good to see Nev back in the team though....and do you think Rio's 'injury' was just a bit of gamesmanship on the part of Fergie? He limped off at  half time, was not subbed and played as solid as ever. Hmmmmmmmm, it makes you wonder.
 
 Hargreaves was definatley man of the match and Park a close second.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 10, 2008, 08:00:00 pm
Barcelona could not arrive to the semifinals in a worst situation, both in terms of the quality of the football displayed by the team and in terms of the sitation within the institution.
 
 And now missing Puyol for the first game. add to this that Ronaldinho and Deco have been left out of the team until the end of the season, when they will be sold to someone crazy enough to get two players no longer interested in the game. Messi is our only option now that he will be recovered from the latest injury.
 
 I give Barcelona a 20% chance of making it to the final.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 11, 2008, 09:40:00 am
You're missing one thing...they're playing Manchester United, and every team wants to beat Manchester United more than any other team in the world so Barca will raise their game I guarantee you. It will be close.
 
 I'm sure the other semi will be two drab games from two boring but effective teams. I'm sure their game plan is to put the other team to sleep.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 11, 2008, 03:33:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  soooooooooooooooooo was Wes Browns take down a penalty?
 
 
 Hargreaves was definatley man of the match and Park a close second.
Absolutely not a penalty.  
 
 And yes, Hargreaves was awesome.  I hear he's having trouble with Fergie.  He was out earlier in the season with the injury, but since then he's been late to a meeting or two and is having trouble with Fergie over it.  When he gets in though, that's what you get.  He could be the fastest guy on the squad.
 
 Overlooked with Neville's return was Sylvestre's play.  Between Pique, Neville, and Slyvestre I'm feeling better about the loss of Vidic, which comes to an end ahead of the match with Chelsea.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 11, 2008, 04:18:00 pm
I agree about Silvo....Pique will be a superb player when he gets his confidence up. I get the impression he's a little starstruck when he plays with the 'big boys' He's much better than he thinks he is.
 
 As for Vidic, my only concern with him coming back from injury just in time for chelskzzzzzzzzz is he's such a tough player that if his timing is off he's likely to give away a penalty, and chelskzzzzzzzzz always go for the pk with Didier "OOOOOOOHHHHH I"VE JUST BEEN SHOT IN THE BACK" Drogba.
 
 I think if Hargreaves was in the shit with Fergie he'd be gettint shopped by now. You know Fergie doesn't take any nonesense....Becks, RVN, Staam to name just three who can attest to that.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 14, 2008, 06:37:00 pm
I think Hargreaves is out of the dog house now.  He's been the best player on the pitch for three straight matches.
 
 I have no idea how United weren't down 4-0 at halftime to Arsenal - that's as bad as I've seen them this season.  But the second half was a completely different story.  What a difference Tevez and Anderson made compared to Scholes and Park.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 14, 2008, 07:00:00 pm
WI'I'I'I'GUN....WI'I'I'I'I'GUN....WI'I'I'I'I'GUN!!!!
 
    :D  
 
 Good old Brucie did us a great favour tonight...you can take the player out of United but you'll never take the United out of the player
 
 
 And for the record...Arse's goal was another hand of God. Yes it was a penalty, a handball is a handball wether intentional or not. The ref acknowledged it was not intentional by keeping his cards in his pocket, but it's still a penalty regardless. And the set piece that gave United the second goal was simply a stroke of genius.
 
 Oh yes, Lehman is a wanker.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 14, 2008, 07:08:00 pm
The look on Grant's face was priceless.
 
 Now with a Thursday trip to Goodison - this is great.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 14, 2008, 07:25:00 pm
I can see chelkzzzzz losing on Thursday, Everton are a very difficult team to play. Moyes is one of the best managers in the premiership achieving what he has with what he's got. He's like a younger version of 'Arry Rednap. They can put a bunch of misfits together and make a formidable team out of them. 'Arry has made a career of it. (Did I hear Mankie say he should've been England manager if they wanted an Englishman?)   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 15, 2008, 10:27:00 am
cant see the toffees having a chance without arteta and cahill
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 17, 2008, 01:32:00 pm
LADS!!! Let's keep this one on the front page!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 17, 2008, 01:34:00 pm
especially nearly on the eve of DERBY DAY
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2008, 10:46:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  especially nearly on the eve of DERBY DAY
No offense but tomorrow I'm a mackam because Keano is God and Keego is a wanker.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 18, 2008, 11:19:00 am
enjoy your tears   :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2008, 11:49:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  enjoy your tears    :D  
Newcastle United have changed their name from "The Magpies" to "The Dogs" because that's the only way they'll be able to hold on to a lead!!!   :D  
 
 How long have you been a toon fan?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 18, 2008, 11:58:00 am
what? newcastle has given up two goals in the past month
 
 newcastle has been my team since 1997, but i have not had regular access to matches until the past few years
 
 pisstaking aside, this summer is going to be big for roy. he really needs to improve that squad, and he might have to go beyond ireland, manusa castoffs and celtic alsorans
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2008, 12:30:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  what? newcastle has given up two goals in the past month
 
 newcastle has been my team since 1997, but i have not had regular access to matches until the past few years
 
 pisstaking aside, this summer is going to be big for roy. he really needs to improve that squad, and he might have to go beyond ireland, manusa castoffs and celtic alsorans
I agree...what's up with that with Keano? I'm just grateful Fergie isn't as narrow minded as Keano... Wenger (french) and Benitez (spanish). Imagine where United would be if he only used jocks and Aberdeen also-rans!!!   :eek:  
 
 As for toon, permaboy needs to stop obsessing about Mikey Owen, who should be following the footsteps of Becks and enjoying the twilight of his career in the MLS. He's  making the mistake of building a team around an almost hasbeen. Owen has one more season at the top level left in him in my opnion
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 18, 2008, 12:53:00 pm
notice that oba got the new deal first
 
 i'm actually with you on owen. it would not surprise me if mike is in a man city uniform next year. i know whats been said in the press, but if you can get £8 million i say take their hands off. i just dont see the logic in paying such an injury prone player the kind of wages (£125k a week!) that he wants when you have plenty of money to spend on a new striker
 
 sorry for the little rant there
 
 and i totally agree that getting stuck on a players origin rather than footballing skills is bad for business
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 18, 2008, 01:38:00 pm
Saturday, April 19
 
 7:30am Arsenal vs. Reading (set)
 9:45am Fulham vs. Liverpool (Set)
 10:00am Wigan vs. Tottenham (FSC)
 12:00pm Blackburn vs. Man United (FSC)
 4:15pm West Ham vs. Derby County (SDC)
 6:30pm Middlesbrough vs. Bolton (FSC)
 
 Sunday, April 20
   
 7:00am Aston Villa vs. Birmingham City (Set)
 11:00am Manchester City vs. Portsmouth (FSC)
 5:00pm Newcastle vs. Sunderland (SDC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2008, 01:59:00 pm
Man Utd trio agree new contracts  
 
 
 Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick and Wes Brown have agreed new contracts with Manchester United.
 
 
 
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7354524.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7354524.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 18, 2008, 02:06:00 pm
I'm a little surprised at Wes Brown, but I think he's earned it with his performance this year.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 18, 2008, 02:13:00 pm
i thought he wanted out, and carrick was 50/50
 
 kind of mad the toon/scumderland match isnt live, though
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2008, 03:31:00 pm
For fear of sounding arrogant, but if you're in the prime of your career, once you've played for Man Utd who else are you going to want to play for in the EPL?
 
 Brown never wanted out, just more money.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 18, 2008, 03:35:00 pm
i guess the story was they werent going to give it to him. doesnt matter now
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 21, 2008, 10:42:00 am
must have been a rough weekend for mank   :p
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 21, 2008, 11:28:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  must have been a rough weekend for mank    ;)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 21, 2008, 11:34:00 am
haha, you werent much of a mackem then
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Post by: vansmack on April 21, 2008, 03:47:00 pm
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE SEMI-FINALS - First Leg
 
 
 Tuesday, April 22
 
 2:30 Liverpool vs. Chelsea (ESPN2)
 
 
 Wednesday, April 23
 
 2:30 Barcelona vs. Manchester United (ESPN2)
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Post by: Barcelona on April 21, 2008, 09:18:00 pm
We have four tickets for the whole season including the Champions League, however, the team is doing so bad that my brother might not go and two of the four tickets might not be used (I guess he will change his mind, but Barcelona has the quietest supporters in Europe who get depressed with the team quite easily).
 
 
 http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AnpthaQBuNslPCMRSu9HCzkmw7YF?slug=ap-extratime&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AnpthaQBuNslPCMRSu9HCzkmw7YF?slug=ap-extratime&prov=ap&type=lgns)
 
 Barcelona aims to copy AC Milan??s Champions League triumph
 By ROBERT MILLWARD, AP Soccer Writer
 
 AP - Apr 21, 12:05 pm EDT World Soccer Gallery LONDON (AP)??Last season, it was AC Milan vs. the Premier League. The Italian club won.
 
 This time, it??s FC Barcelona??s turn to take on English soccer in the Champions League with Manchester United, Liverpool and Chelsea all in the semifinals for the second season in a row.
 
 If last season is any guide, bet on a Barcelona triumph when the final comes around in Moscow on May 21.
 
 Although the current form and odds suggest the famous trophy will be headed for England, fate could send it to Spain.
 
 The English teams are great at reaching the last four, and there will be at least one Premier League club in the final for the fourth season in a row. Actually picking up the trophy is another thing altogether??they??ve won just two since 1984.
 
 Since then, the Italian clubs (seven titles) and Spanish (five) have proved to be much better at that, and the English trio could well be beaten to the top prize by Barcelona, which defeated Arsenal 2-1 in the 2006 final.
 
 Like Milan a year ago, Barcelona is way off the lead in its domestic league, plagued by injuries to big players and struggling for consistency.
 
 Milan finished fourth and 36 points behind Inter Milan in the 2007 Italian league, although that included eight points imposed for its part in a match-fixing scam. Saving its best form for the Champions League, it beat Liverpool 2-1 in the final in Athens, Greece.
 
 Barcelona is third and 11 points behind Real Madrid in the Spanish title race and that means, like Milan last season, it realistically only has the Champions League to focus on.
 
 Now, with Lionel Messi, Samuel Eto??o and Deco fit again, Barcelona has the talent to beat Manchester United in Wednesday??s first leg at the Camp Nou a day after Liverpool and Chelsea face each other at Anfield. The return legs are next week.
 
 Barcelona comes off a 0-0 tie at home against cross-city rival Espanyol on Saturday, although midfielder Andres Iniesta says that??s a good sign.
 
 ??The Champions League is another story,? Iniesta said. ??A good example is that after a terrible (3-2 loss) in Seville against Betis, we were able to beat Schalke in Germany. It??s very important for us to get to the final, and we have 180 minutes ahead of us to do so.?
 
 Barcelona just has to shrug aside its league form and switch into Champions League mode. But pressure has been mounting on the Barca players since they began falling too far behind Madrid in the league title race.
 
 Barcelona started the season expecting great things from its new-look strikeforce with Thierry Henry joining Messi, Eto??o and Ronaldinho. But the French striker has failed to make an impact in Spanish soccer, Messi and Eto??o have spent long spells on the sideline with injuries and Ronaldinho, clearly putting on weight, has been accused of enjoying the nightlife a little too much.
 
 The Brazilian great is out of action with a torn leg muscle and there is strong speculation he might be moving to AC Milan. With 17-year-old Bojan Krkic producing standout performances on his introduction to the team, however, Barcelona still has the players capable of beating Manchester United.
 
 The problem for the Catalan team is that it appears to have lost confidence, and the fans can feel it.
 
 They have been getting on the backs of the players, coach Frank Rijkaard and president Joan Laporta, especially with traditional rival Madrid on the way to winning the Spanish league title for the second season in a row.
 
 Now the team has to respond with two big performances against Manchester United, which is leading the Premier League and hoping to win the league title for the second season in a row. United effectively needs only to win at second-place Chelsea on Saturday to clinch. The Red Devils were in a similar situation last term, with Chelsea also back in second place.
 
 But Alex Ferguson??s team couldn??t manage the double. It struggled twice in the Champions League semifinals against Milan, coming from behind to win 3-2 in the first leg at Old Trafford and being soundly beaten 3-0 in the return.
 
 With the home leg first, Rijkaard needs to get the best out of Messi, Eto??o, Henry, Deco and Krkic when the two teams meet at Camp Nou, so it can defend a lead at Old Trafford next week.
 
 If he doesn??t, European soccer will be looking at a first all-English Champions League final, Premier League dominance will be complete and Rijkaard probably will be searching for another job.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 22, 2008, 05:02:00 pm
1-1 at least they doubled the goal tally of their usual encounters.    :roll:
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2008, 12:18:00 pm
haha, to be fair one was an o.g., right. i made it a point not to watch, and i plan on watching barca play some team when i get home from work
 
 transfer speculation is running wild already. today's rumor is that the toon have pretty much sewn up modric
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 23, 2008, 12:18:00 pm
Predictions for the result? I've no idea because it really could go either way, but will stick my neck out and say 2-1 for United.
 
 Vidic was taken into hospital last night with a stomach problem....or maybe it was another Fergie mind game.
 
 Man Utd wait on Vidic after scare
 
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7363565.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7363565.stm)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2008, 12:23:00 pm
i'll go 1-1 just barely making the second leg interesting. cant see barca scoring more than a goal at ot, assuming that fergie is playing games
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 23, 2008, 12:32:00 pm
My only fear is that Ronaldo will over-play (if that's even a term) because tonight, in his mind, he'll be auditioning for his new team.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2008, 12:37:00 pm
real?  ;)
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Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2008, 12:37:00 pm
So, as for last night, I thought the whistle had blown and Riise stuck it in the net as a joke at then end.  
 
 Then I saw him pick his head up and turn white as a ghost.  He looked like he was about to cry and couldn't believe what had happened.  Even the Chelsea players were sort of in shock over what happened.
 
 Then I laughed.  And laughed.  And laughed.
 
 As for today, 1-1 draw.  I will not be watching live and will be avoiding this thread from 2:30 on.
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Post by: Barcelona on April 23, 2008, 05:56:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I give Barcelona a 20% chance of making it to the final.
After watching today´s game, I give Barcelona a 40% chance. We didn´t play well, but Manchester will have to look for a goal in Engand, that may open spaces for Messi, Etoo, Iniesta, Deco and Xavi. can´t wait for next Tuesday.
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Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2008, 06:27:00 pm
Ronaldo missed a golden opportunity early, but United's defense was splendid.  Boy I would have liked that away goal though.
 
 Barca were the better team tonight going forward, but were very short on chances, despite the absence of Vidic.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 24, 2008, 08:49:00 am
kind of a weird team man u put out there, but they really seemed to out muscle barca in the last third. scholes really enjoys giving away free kicks in bad spots
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2008, 10:29:00 am
Just a couple of comments from yesterday.
 
 1.) That missed penalty just might cost United a place in the final
 
 2.) Barca dominating the game with 65% of possesion and not being able to put the game away on home soil just might cost them a place in the final.
 
 In summary - It's all still to play for and too close to call!!!
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Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2008, 12:11:00 pm
So I watched it again last night on a real TV (I slingboxed it the first time), and I must say, I now know why I can't watch Italian football.  United definitely looked like Milan out there playing as defensively as they did.  And with fergie taking out both strikers for the last 10 minutes, I just don't know what to think.  I've never seen a United team take it's foot off the pedal.  I was a little disappointed.
 
 Which led me to think, maybe Barca cut a deal with Fergie.  Don't embarasas us at home by beating the crap out of us, costing all of us our jobs, and we'll reward with a 2-0 victory at Old Trafford and trip to the finals.  That's the only thing I can think of.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2008, 12:25:00 pm
Barca are spanish, not italian so I don't think there'd be any match fixing going on.
 
 Why was Rooney out on the wing? England have proved many times he needs to be up front in the middle running at the defense to be effective.
 
 I thought Wes Brown did a fine job of shutting Messi down, admittedly he's probably short of match fitness, but still. And we have no shortage of fullbacks seeing the way Hargreaves played back there.
 
 Tevez may as well have been back in Manc watching the game on telly for all he did. At half time I would've pulled Tevez, put Rooney in the middle and brought Giggs on as a winger.
 
 If United had scored that penalty that game would ended up being a high scoring game because it would've opened it up early on.
 
 Barca seemed to play like Arsenil by trying to dribble the ball over the line. At least when Henry came on he actually tried a shot that challenged VDS.
 
 I can't remember EVER seeing United sit back like that. Maybe Fergie was playing for a draw with the chelskzzzz match in mind so not wanting to tire them out too much.
 
 On a brigher note, at least we can survive at the back without Vidic if needs be.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 24, 2008, 12:26:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  So I watched it again last night on a real TV (I slingboxed it the first time), and I must say, I now know why I can't watch Italian football.  United definitely looked like Milan out there playing as defensively as they did.  And with fergie taking out both strikers for the last 10 minutes, I just don't know what to think.  I've never seen a United team take it's foot off the pedal.  I was a little disappointed.
 
 Which led me to think, maybe Barca cut a deal with Fergie.  Don't embarasas us at home by beating the crap out of us, costing all of us our jobs, and we'll reward with a 2-0 victory at Old Trafford and trip to the finals.  That's the only thing I can think of.
he didnt really play them as strikers though (especially rooney) which i found odd. it was more like ronaldo was playing up top by himself. as an outside observer that's seen united play around a dozen matches this year, it didnt look like the same team. and why park?
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Post by: Barcelona on April 24, 2008, 01:07:00 pm
I think Manchester United played too conservatively. Ronaldinho is no longer a FC Barcelona player, Messi has been injured a couple of times this season, this was his first game after the second injury. Deco and Marquez had not played in two months. Puyol was out. Etoo hasn't played well this year and Henry hasn't done anything at all in Spain. Pretty much the only ones who have consistently played well are Xavi, Iniesta, Toure Yaya and Abidal, which are good players but not among the best 30 players in the world. I think Manchester paid too much respect to Barcelona (you would be surprised at the awful statistics of Barcelona in the Spanish league since December), which is good because it tells me that we are still respected in Europe. However, I would not be surprised of a 3-0 in Old Trafford, but would not be surprised by 1-2 either.
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Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2008, 05:30:00 pm
THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS
 
 Saturday, April 26
 
 7:30am Chelsea vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 
 
 For the rest of you...
 
 10:00am Birmingham vs. Liverpool (Set)
 10:00am Sunderland vs. Middlesbrough (FSC)
 12:00pm Tottenham vs. Bolton (FSC)
 2:00pm Wigan vs. Reading (FSC)  
 2:15pm West Ham vs. Newcastle (SDC)
 4:15pm Manchester City vs. Fulham (SDC)
 
 Sunday, April 27
 
 11:00am Everton vs. Aston Villa (FSC)
 7:00pm Portsmouth vs. Blackburn (SDC)
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2008, 06:53:00 pm
You know what's great about Saturday....United can lose and still win the title. That goal difference is almost an extra point.
 
 I think United will win rather comfortably to be honest, but footie is a funny old game as they say.
 
 United have West Ham and Wigan which shouldn't give us too much trouble.
 
 Chelskzzz have Newcastle who seem to have a new lease on life, and then Bolton who are fighting for survival so will be a tough game.
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Post by: vansmack on April 26, 2008, 01:03:00 pm
Dubious, at best.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 26, 2008, 01:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Dubious, at best.
I didn't get to see it because of work, but I could've told you this morning if it was close something would've happened to aid chelskzzzzz. 38 minutes of injury time....weak penalty for.....non penalty call against. As it happene 2 out of 3 ain't bad as the fat bloke sang!!
 
 Having said all that, from what I read it seems United played very stand offish like they did against Barca. What's going on?? And why have Ronaldo on the bench? Fergie is going senile. You should play your strongest side, get a couple of goal lead then sub your top players ready for the next big game. Not hope a weakened side will pull it off against your closest rival.
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Post by: vansmack on April 29, 2008, 10:17:00 am
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE SEMIFINALS - 2nd LEG
 
 Tuesday, April 29
 
 2:45pm Manchester United vs. Barcelona
 
 Wednesday, April 30
 
 2:45pm Chelsea vs. Liverpool
 
 
 I'm on a plane today for 5 hours so I booked my flight on Virgin America and their satellite TV to watch the match in the air.  I already feel badly for all the people on the plane with me...
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 29, 2008, 11:41:00 am
I'm actually going to take the afternoon off to go home and watch it, because even if I stayed at work I would be a waste of space as I'm going to be a wreck. This one really is too close to call. United off the boil and Barca with nothing else left to play for.
 
 Then we have the snooze-fest tomorrow which I couldn't give a toss about.
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Post by: Barcelona on April 29, 2008, 05:05:00 pm
what can I say in such a sad moment. We tried but couldn´t score against this incredible team. Congratulations to Manchester United and enjoy playing the final of the Champions League, to me the best game in football.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 29, 2008, 05:18:00 pm
That game really could have gone either way....I have to ask though....how can Barca enjoy so much possession and do absolutely nothing with it? It's like they want to dribble the ball over the goal line. At least when Henry came on he tried a shot from a distance, like he did during the last game. Eto'o was very quiet and Messi was totally shut down again.
 
 United's defence won that game because we didn't have much up front either really. Spectacular goal though don't you think?
 
 Well, on to Moscow and I have a feeling Barca will be shopping for a new manager in the summer.
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Post by: Venerable Bede on April 30, 2008, 02:42:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  what can I say in such a sad moment. We tried but couldn´t score against this incredible team. Congratulations to Manchester United and enjoy playing the final of the Champions League, to me the best game in football.
did you see  senna's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91mZjZfVa8o) goal against betis on sunday?  i think it even made espn's top 10 of the day.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 30, 2008, 07:12:00 pm
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44616000/jpg/_44616270_gerrard_pa300.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HA HA HAHAHAHAHA
 
 GO EFF YOURSELF YOU SCOUSE TWAT!!!!!!!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2008, 09:35:00 pm
hahaha
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 01, 2008, 12:07:00 pm
Manchester United top rich list  
 
  <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44616000/gif/_44616873_man_utd_badge_203.gif" alt=" - " />
   
 
 Manchester United are the most valuable football club in the world, according to Forbes magazine.
 
 The Champions League finalists, who came second in a list compiled by accountants Deloitte in February, topped the table ahead of Real Madrid.
 
 Forbes value United at £905m ($1,800m) and Real at £646m ($1,285m), with Arsenal at £603m ($1,200m) in third.
 
 Liverpool are up to fourth from 11th in the 25-team list, while Celtic are the only Scottish team, in 20th place.
 
 
 The other British representatives in the 25-team list are Chelsea in eighth, fellow Londoners Tottenham in 12th and 16th-placed Newcastle, while Everton, West Ham, Manchester City and Aston Villa occupy places 21-24.
 
 Meanwhile, David Beckham has replaced Ronaldinho as the world's highest-paid footballer after joining the Los Angeles Galaxy, earning £25m per year ($48.9m).
 
 The Brazilian had to be content with second place while his Barcelona team-mate Thierry Henry earned £12.5m in salary and sponsorship deals this season.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 01, 2008, 12:39:00 pm
should be interesting to see if the english clubs move up even further next year after the new tv deal kicks in
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 01, 2008, 12:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  should be interesting to see if the english clubs move up even further next year after the new tv deal kicks in
Seems doodle ownership has done Man USA no harm huh??  :D
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 01, 2008, 12:59:00 pm
haha, that number doesnt take into account debt, right? cause manusa and el doodlepool sure have a lot. to be fair, glazer's been loads smarter than those two bozos in scousetown
 
 really, cant believe toon's 16th with no european football
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 01, 2008, 02:43:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 
 really, cant believe toon's 16th with no european football
It's all those stupid geordies buying the new kit every season.....wait, it' s the same one every year....they really are stupid. "Way aaaaaay mon, it's canny leek!!"
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 01, 2008, 03:37:00 pm
i know you're making fun, but my favorite is the away kit they hardly ever wear, and the third kit which i think they've only worn once all season
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Post by: vansmack on May 02, 2008, 02:31:00 pm
Saturday, May 3
 
 7:30am Manchester Utd vs. West Ham (Set)
 9:45am Fulham vs. Birmingham City (Set)
 10:00am Reading vs. Tottenham (FSC)  
 12:00pm Bolton vs. Sunderland (FSC)  
 2:30pm Middlesbrough vs. Portsmouth (FSC)  
 3:00pm Blackburn vs. Derby County (SDC)
 
 
 Sunday, May 4
 
 8:30am  Arsenal vs. Everton (Set)
 11:00am Liverpool vs. Manchester City (FSC)  
 
 
 Monday, May 5
 
 11:00am Newcastle vs. Chelsea (Set)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 02, 2008, 02:38:00 pm
ah, i could only find the monday game on at 7. i guess monday must be a holiday in the uk. sure makes my life easier
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Post by: vansmack on May 05, 2008, 01:12:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  ah, i could only find the monday game on at 7. i guess monday must be a holiday in the uk. sure makes my life easier
Let me know when we can talk about it.  I watched it this morning.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 05, 2008, 02:35:00 pm
This is great...the premiership going down to the last game. When did that last happen?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2008, 08:26:00 am
i didnt finish watching it until 10 pm eastern. mike owen must really really hate man u, because he had a couple of chances he usually buries. maybe should have let oba run at some people in the second half. knew it was fucked when dukes went off. they just dont keep possesion as well when hes not on the pitch. and how did the announcers not know that he's nursing a chronic injury?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 06, 2008, 09:09:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   mike owen must really really hate man u,  
That comes from Mikey's days at liverscum.
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Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2008, 12:15:00 pm
As many blown chances as Owen had, it really was Viduka going off that turned that game.  I hate to say this because I love the guy, but Alan Smith was shit and his entry to the game really was the turning point for the Toon.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2008, 01:16:00 pm
toon really need to buy a servicable big striker this summer. viduka is old and always hurt and smith like you said just cant cut it. rumors of smith going to rangers were out there a couple weeks back
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 06, 2008, 01:43:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  toon really need to buy a servicable big striker this summer. viduka is old and always hurt and smith like you said just cant cut it. rumors of smith going to rangers were out there a couple weeks back
Fat, you forgot to mention fat..
 
 Viduka would be okay if he could stay off the meat pies and chips.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2008, 01:50:00 pm
never trust an overweight footballer, i agree with that
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2008, 05:28:00 pm
United play for the double on back of £58m losses last year (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/06/manchesterunited.premierleague)
   :eek:
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Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2008, 05:42:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  United play for the double on back of £58m losses last year (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/06/manchesterunited.premierleague)
    :eek:  
I guess only the treble would make the Manchester United Supporters Trust happy.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 06, 2008, 06:15:00 pm
It's interesting that for a team who "buys" success they made 11m quid profit in the transfer market!!!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 07, 2008, 09:08:00 am
to me the interesting part is that man u made money in the transfer market and still lost money overall
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Post by: Barcelona on May 07, 2008, 11:38:00 am
Still depressed after the defeat with Manchester United, what a couple of years we have had after winning the Champions League in 2006.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 07, 2008, 04:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  to me the interesting part is that man u made money in the transfer market and still lost money overall
Interest payments on the Glazers debt they rammed down Old Traffords throats...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 07, 2008, 05:20:00 pm
right, thats the crazy part. i believe that anderson, nani and hargreaves will be on this years books though. next years financials should be interesting
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 08, 2008, 12:08:00 pm
is the fa cup final usually ppv?
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Post by: brennser on May 08, 2008, 12:09:00 pm
yup
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  is the fa cup final usually ppv?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 08, 2008, 12:33:00 pm
Pompei v Cardiff, that's a hell of a draw...NOT!
 
 Having said that I suppose the Champs league final won't draw much interest outside of the UK and Ireland.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 08, 2008, 12:33:00 pm
dammit, i'm going to be out of town. looks like there's one bar in pittsburgh that will have it too. haha
 
 also looks like i'm going to be in ireland for the begining of the euro knockout rounds. betting is legal there, right
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 08, 2008, 12:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 also looks like i'm going to be in ireland for the begining of the euro knockout rounds. betting is legal there, right
Legal??? Legal???? I think it's illegal not to!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 08, 2008, 12:43:00 pm
awesome
 
 i'm going to bet first goal scorer on whoever plays in england
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 08, 2008, 02:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  also looks like i'm going to be in ireland for the begining of the euro knockout rounds. betting is legal there, right
Encouraged even.
 
 Which reminds me, Euro 2008 is slated for ESPN and ESPN2 and WILL be in HD.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 08, 2008, 07:27:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   Euro 2008 is slated for ESPN and ESPN2 and WILL be in HD.
FUCK YEAH
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 09, 2008, 12:23:00 pm
THE FINAL DAY
 
 Sunday, May 11
 
 The two LIVE games...
 
 10:00am Wigan vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 10:00am Chelsea vs. Bolton (FSC)
 
 And all the rest tape delayed...
 
 12:00pm Everton vs. Newcastle (FSC)
 12:30pm Portsmouth vs. Fulham (SDC)
 2:15pm Birmingham City vs. Blackburn (SDC)
 4:00pm Derby County vs. Reading (SDC)
 6:30pm Middlesbrough vs. Manchester City (FSC)  
 7:00pm Tottenham vs. Liverpool (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 09, 2008, 02:09:00 pm
stupid setanta with their score updates. i'll have to watch chelzzzz if i'm around
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 09, 2008, 03:40:00 pm
Which do you think will be the most boring
 
 Derby v Reading
 
 or
 
 Chelskzzz v Bolton
 
 ?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 09, 2008, 03:46:00 pm
eh, id say bolton/chelski. derby/reading could be 5-4. both are shocking at the back
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 09, 2008, 04:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  Chelskzzz v Bolton
 
If only Bolton hadn't escaped relegation....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 09, 2008, 04:38:00 pm
i just hope fulham stay up
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 09, 2008, 05:51:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i just hope fulham stay up
Why?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 09, 2008, 05:52:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  Why?
The US National team can use the practice against decent competition.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 09, 2008, 06:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  Why?
The US National team can use the practice against decent competition. [/b]
;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 11, 2008, 10:23:00 pm
I shall sleep well tonight...and comment in the morning.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 12, 2008, 09:00:00 am
i wouldnt be bothered too much either way, but man u winning the league is preferable. good show for them, terry getting injured had to be a bonus
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  Why?
The US National team can use the practice against decent competition. [/b]
they might even be in europe.   :eek:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 12, 2008, 09:51:00 am
well I for one am very happy - another well deserved title - no one can argue that we didn;t play the most attractive football over the course of the year
 
 10 titles in 16 seasons is an astonishing achievement for SAF
 
 another important number
 
 17.....total number of league championships we have now won.....one more and Liverscum lose yet another one of their fading pretensions to greatness
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 12, 2008, 11:11:00 am
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44645000/jpg/_44645985_giggs_ap.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 12, 2008, 12:50:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
   no one can argue that we didn;t play the most attractive football over the course of the year
As evidenced by being up 0-1 and still keeping the foot on the pedal to get that second goal.  Chelski would never have done that, and that's how you draw 1-1.  Good for Ryan Giggs too - his contributions were very under the radar this year with the attention going to the three kids up front.
 
 John Terry got hurt?  Didn't even notice....
 
 What I did notice is that the Champions League final appeared in my guide over the weekend as being in HD. Sweet.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 12, 2008, 12:53:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i just hope fulham stay up
Amazing huh?  Brian McBride's contributions will never be recognized as they should, but his return saved that season for Fulham.  5 straight wins, 3 on the road!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2008, 02:27:00 pm
Don't forget to cancel Setanta until August 10.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2008, 03:10:00 pm
mcbride was amazing, he has to come back now. i thought for sure he'd be in mls next year
 
 and dempsey was awfully good for them during the season too. i think he's proved a little
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 22, 2008, 08:49:00 am
what?? ARe SMackie and Mankie still drunk??  :)
 
 I tell ya - yesterday was one of the longest days of my life - stuck in jury selection all day getting updates on my phones - get out just as extra timeis starting - get home just as ronnie misses the penalty - basically think we're fucked - and then boom, we're CHampions of Europe again!!!
 
  <img src="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/05/21/sports/21soccer.1.190.jpg" alt=" - " />
  <img src="http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/05/21/UtdplayersEPAYURI_KOCHETKOV2.jpg" alt=" - " />   <img src="http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/05/22/JohnTerryPAMartinRickett3.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 22, 2008, 08:53:00 am
hahaha...terrydrogbaanelka so funny
 
 about 88 minutes in i realized that i didnt record the program after. thanks for replaying it espn 2
 
 i actually thought smackie might be in moscow
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 22, 2008, 09:48:00 am
I guess Chelskzzz are ESPN's babies...not once during regulation did they show the United supporters but we had the Moscovites who were most certainly coerced into the stadium wearing blue and white were rammed down our throats about every 5 minutes or so.
 
 The commentators must've been watching a different game than I was because you'd think chelskzz were playing a bunch of trash cans spread about the field. REALITY CHECK...United dominated the first half, chelskzzz the second and United extra time. The game could've gone either way but the best team in Europe over the course of the competition won the final..
 
 When Anelka walked up to take the penalty I said to my wife "we've won" You could see on his face and from his body language he had no confidence in taking that kick. As for Terry.. HA HA YOU FUCKING PRICK!!! No sympathy here because he's nothing short of a thug. Did Becks get any sympathy when he slipped taking a pk during the world cup???
 
 I lost totaly respect for Joe Cole..what a fucking cry-baby. I used to think he was the exception at Stamford Bridge but it looks like it wore off on him.
 
 MANCHESTER UNITED, CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE 2008{b]
 
 I believe if you go on ebay there's a Stamford Bridge trophy cabinet up for auction.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 22, 2008, 11:09:00 am
Congratulations to Manchester United, the best team in Europe this year, no doubt. As usual, every time Manchester United is there you have a great final, the one yesterday reminded me of the 1999 final against Bayern Munich. I just hope we have a chance to play Manchester United next year in the Champions League.
 
 With games like this, I confirm my preference for the Champions League over any other tournament, I am quite sure the Euro this coming month won't have games like this one.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2008, 12:53:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  what?? ARe SMackie and Mankie still drunk??   :)  
 
I am.  Rough day at work today.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2008, 12:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 i actually thought smackie might be in moscow
No no.  Smackette graduated on Monday and I had to be in Sacramento on Tuesday and Wednesday so I wasn't able to go.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 23, 2008, 02:12:00 pm
Thanks for the reference to Barcelona and very appropriate reference to Franco when talking about Real Madrid! Alex, you are the best.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7416981.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7416981.stm)
 
 Ferguson slams Real over Ronaldo  
 
 Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has accused Real Madrid of lacking morals in their pursuit of Cristiano Ronaldo.
 
 Real coach Bernd Schuster and president Ramon Calderon have both expressed a desire to see Ronaldo at The Bernabeu.
 
 Ferguson, fresh from United's Champions League truimph, said: "Schuster's talking and Calderon's talking.
 
 "Real think they can ride roughshod over everyone, but they won't do it with us. They have no moral issues."
 
 And Ferguson drew a comparison with Real's fierce rivals Barcelona as he fought to draw a line under continuing speculation surrounding the 23-year-old Portuguese winger's future.
 
 He said: "In terms of great clubs, Barcelona have far better morality than Real Madrid will ever have. Real use this Marca newspaper as a vehicle to unsettle players.
 
 "Do you not think we have had many expressions of interest about our players from big clubs in Europe?
 
 "Real Madrid are not the only club interested in Ronaldo. But the others are not saying so. They don't get into this nonsense.
 
 "Calderon makes that great statement 'slavery was abolished many years ago'. Did they tell General Franco that? Give me a break.
 
 "The simple fact is Cristiano has another four years left on his contract."
 
 United have sold David Beckham, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Gabriel Heinze to Real in recent years, but Ferguson insisted the case of Ronaldo was different.
 
 He said: "Yes, we sold them Van Nistelrooy and Beckham but we did that because we wanted to."
 
 And Argentine defender Heinze was transferred to Real last summer after failing in a public battle to secure a move to United's arch-rivals Liverpool.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 23, 2008, 02:15:00 pm
The Franco line is GREAT!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 23, 2008, 02:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  what?? ARe SMackie and Mankie still drunk??     :)    
 
I am.  Rough day at work today. [/b]
I've sobered up but not come down yet!!!!
 
 There's one other minor point about Real Madrid and Man Utd....we sold the other's because they were approaching 'has been' status. Maybe in about 8 years or so we'll offload Ronaldo to them.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 23, 2008, 04:19:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
      <img src="http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/05/22/JohnTerryPAMartinRickett3.jpg" alt=" - " />
Sorry, I just had to see it again. It gives me such a happy feeling inside.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 23, 2008, 04:59:00 pm
Simply Red singer and Manchester United fanatic Mick Hucknall was reluctantly dragged away from watching the Champions League final penalty shoot-out by concert organisers at a charity function he was performing at. (Daily Express)
 
 
 Like they say, you can take the man out of manc...........
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 23, 2008, 05:49:00 pm
EURO 2008 US BROADCAST SCHEDULE
 
 Saturday, June 7, 2008
 
 12:00 PM UK Switzerland  v  Czech Republic (ESPN Classic)
 2:45 PM UK Portugal  v  Turkey (ESPN Classic)
 
 Sunday, June 8, 2008
 
 12:00 PM UK Austria  v  Croatia (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Germany  v  Poland  (ESPN2)
 
 Monday, June 9, 2008
   
 12:00 PM UK Romania  v  France  (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Netherlands  v  Italy (ESPN2)
 
 Tuesday, June 10, 2008
   
 12:00 PM UK Spain  v  Russia   (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Greece  v  Sweden  (ESPN2)
 
 Wednesday, June 11, 2008
 
 12:00 PM UK Czech Republic  v  Portugal (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Switzerland  v  Turkey   (ESPN2)
 
 Thursday, June 12, 2008
 
 12:00 PM UK Croatia  v  Germany (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Austria  v  Poland  (ESPN2)
 
 Friday, June 13, 2008
   
 12:00 PM UK Italy  v  Romania (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Netherlands  v  France  (ESPN2)
 
 Saturday, June 14, 2008
 
 12:00 PM UK Sweden  v  Spain (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Greece  v  Russia  (ESPN2)
 
 Sunday, June 15, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK Turkey  v  Czech Republic  (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Switzerland  v  Portugal (ESPN2)
 
 Monday, June 16, 2008
   
 2:45 PM UK Poland  v  Croatia (ESPN Classic)
 2:45 PM UK Austria  v  Germany  (ESPN)
 
 Tuesday, June 17, 2008
   
 2:45 PM UK France  v  Italy (ESPN Classic)
 2:45 PM UK Netherlands  v  Romania (ESPN)
 
 Wednesday, June 18, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK Russia  v  Sweden (ESPN)
 2:45 PM UK Greece  v  Spain (ESPN2)
 
 Thursday, June 19, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK Winner   v  Runner-up  Quarter-finals  (ESPN)
 
 Friday, June 20, 2008
 
  2:45 PM UK Winner   v  Runner-up  Quarter-finals  (ESPN)
 
 Saturday, June 21, 2008
 
  2:45 PM UK Winner   v  Runner-up  Quarter-finals  (ABC)
 
 Sunday, June 22, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK Winner   v  Runner-up  Quarter-finals  (ESPN)
 
 Wednesday, June 25, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK W25  v  W26 Semi-finals  (ESPN)
 
 Thursday, June 26, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK W27  v  W28 Semi-finals  (ESPN2)
 
 Sunday, June 29, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK W29  v  W30 Final (ABC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 24, 2008, 05:04:00 pm
What a  great week it's been for old mank!!!   :D  
 
 
  <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44687000/jpg/_44687321_munstertrophybody.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 
 Munster became kings of Europe for a second time as a ferociously committed display saw them edge past Toulouse in the Heineken Cup final in Cardiff.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 24, 2008, 07:01:00 pm
and chelski just shitcanned grant!
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  What a  great week it's been for old mank!!!    :D  
 
 
   <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44687000/jpg/_44687321_munstertrophybody.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 
 Munster became kings of Europe for a second time as a ferociously committed display saw them edge past Toulouse in the Heineken Cup final in Cardiff.
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 25, 2008, 11:54:00 am
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44688000/jpg/_44688079_terry226x282.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 I decided to open the dealership this weekend because the month has been a little slow so obvioucly not too happy....but this cheered me up no end!!!
 
 
 BTW, has there been a better week for a manc this week??
    <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44687000/jpg/_44687418_hatton_belt_270_ap.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 Hatton retains title on home turf
 
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/7415140.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/7415140.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 25, 2008, 12:02:00 pm
Barcelona striker Thierry Henry was set to join Manchester United for £10m until the Spanish side's new boss Pep Guardiola blocked the move two weeks ago.
 
 
 WOW!!! I would bring him to Old Trafford in a heartbeat. As much as I hate arseholes I considered Henry a great player and decent bloke. Even during the UTD v Barca tie he was the only one who actually took a shot rather than try to dribble the ball over the line.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 27, 2008, 02:35:00 pm
Wednesday May 28, 2008
 
 2:50PM Intl Friendly: England vs. US (ESPN Classic)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 27, 2008, 04:02:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Wednesday May 28, 2008
 
 2:50PM Intl Friendly: England vs. US (ESPN Classic)
Predictions??
 
 I'd say this game has a draw written all over it. The doodles are just getting their season going so still ironing out the bugs and the brits just wrapped up so the last thing they want to do is play a pointless friendly. ALthough I just thought, how many doodles play for their club teams in the US? If they played the game at Craven Cottage the US could've walked to the ground.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 27, 2008, 05:38:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
 Predictions??
3-0 England.  Maybe 4.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2008, 07:23:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  What a  great week it's been for old mank!!!    :D  
 
 
   <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44687000/jpg/_44687321_munstertrophybody.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 
 Munster became kings of Europe for a second time as a ferociously committed display saw them edge past Toulouse in the Heineken Cup final in Cardiff.
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm)
so people will likely still be happy about this in 4 weeks or so in the province?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 28, 2008, 02:37:00 pm
Dear Football Fan,
 
 Are you up to the challenge?
 
 Your friend Smackie has already entered the fantastic FREE TO PLAY ESPNsoccernet Euro Fantasy competition and thinks that they have selected a much better team than you could ever manage!
 
 What do you reckon? Are they having a laugh? Can you prove yourself a better manager?
 
 We thought so...
 
 Here's what to do - click the link below to get started:
 
 1: Go to http://euro2008fantasy.soccernet.com/ (http://euro2008fantasy.soccernet.com/)
 
 2: Click on Register and go through the registration and team selection process - it's totally free to play
 
 3: Once you are on your team line-up page click on Mini League and type the following information in the Join A Mini League boxes:
 
 League Name: 1105hb
 Password: 9696075
 
 You should now be ready to compete with and hopefully beat Smackie!
 
 ESPNsoccernet Fantasy Games HQ
 http://euro2008fantasy.soccernet.com/ (http://euro2008fantasy.soccernet.com/)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 28, 2008, 02:44:00 pm
First Bocanegra (who will find a new Premiership team) and now McBride....
 
 McBride set to leave Fulham (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=540312&cc=5739&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)
 By Jeff Bradley
 
 Updated: May 28, 2008, 6:03 PM UK
 
 Longtime U.S. striker Brian McBride has told ESPN soccer analyst John Harkes that he will be leaving Fulham Football Club after five seasons with the London-based team.
 
 "Brian told me that he believes he has a lot of good soccer left in him," said Harkes, "but it will not be with Fulham. He also said he's leaving the club on excellent terms."
 
 McBride, 36, grew up in Arlington Heights, Ill., and played eight seasons in MLS for the Columbus Crew, who selected him first overall in the league's inaugural draft in 1996. It has been rumored that McBride could be returning to MLS to play for the Chicago Fire, but Harkes said that McBride has not made any decisions about where he'll be playing next season.
 
 McBride, who represented the U.S. in the last three World Cups and scored memorable goals in American triumphs over Portugal and Mexico in 2002, leaves Fulham having scored 32 goals in the English Premier League.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 28, 2008, 06:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
 Predictions??
3-0 England.  Maybe 4. [/b]
But for Becks quick kicking the free kick I would have been spot on.
 
 With just Landon up front I thought the US would struggle to score.  Without Landon and Altidore, I knew there was no chance.  Altidore is the future of US Soccer.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 29, 2008, 08:30:00 am
there were (however weak) links going around between altidore and bradley and toon this past weekend
 
 wont happen, but got me a little excited
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2008, 12:38:00 pm
Mourinho takes charge at Inter Milan (http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SPORT/football/06/02/inter.mournnho/?iref=hpmostpop)
 
 I've rarely seen a better marriage.  He's perfect for the boring, diving, crying Italian game...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2008, 12:49:00 pm
i dont know, everyone is pretty well dressed there, he wont be as special
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2008, 02:13:00 pm
supposedly ole sicknote duff is moving on from the toon, and his house is up for sale. now, the hottest rumor is scumderland, so i dont know why he'd move, and nothing about this is very interesting EXCEPT, here is the apparent listing:
  http://www.sandersonyoung.co.uk/buy/view.aspx?pr=9054 (http://www.sandersonyoung.co.uk/buy/view.aspx?pr=9054)
 awesome bathrooms
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2008, 02:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   now, the hottest rumor is scumderland, so i dont know why he'd move
'Cause he loves Roy Keane.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2008, 02:31:00 pm
i worded that poorly. if he plays for sunderland, he could continue to live in the same house
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2008, 02:43:00 pm
Wednesday, June 4, 2008
 
 4:00pm Spain vs. United States (ESPN360.com)
 
 5:30pm Tape Delayed broadcast ESPN2
 
 
 We would struggle to score with Landon, no chance without.  3-0 Spain.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2008, 02:50:00 pm
why schedule these friendlies and then not call up any forwards? i guess the answer is go to europe and then get capped more often
 
 but still
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2008, 03:08:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  the toon
Newcastle have confirmed they have agreed terms with Fenerbahce for the transfer of Emre Belozoglu.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2008, 03:20:00 pm
yeah, its been close for a few days now. the reports differ on the fee, but supposedly its going to be a profit. how, i dont know
 
 he's on £55k a week and always injured. not a huge loss if replaced. ditto duff, who i hear is paid £70k a week. at least duff didnt get accused of dropping the nbomb three seperate times
 
 of course the troubling issue would be villa beating down the doors for milner and zogs wanting away
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2008, 05:33:00 pm
Ouch.
 
 Cannavaro out for Italy (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=541895&cc=5739)
 
  <img src="http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/JonMC/May2008/fabbio412.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on June 03, 2008, 07:50:00 pm
EURO 2008 predictions?
 Surprises?
 Who are you supporting?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 03, 2008, 08:15:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
  EURO 2008 predictions?
 Surprises?
 Who are you supporting?
With England out, I'm rooting for the Dutch.
 
 I think the Portuguese and the Germans are going to be tough to beat in A & B and Spain vs. whomever gets out of group C alive in the other semi.
 
 I think the Portuguese win it all.
 
 And I think Greece and Poland will surprise some people.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 04, 2008, 08:39:00 am
with ireland and england not making it, and both newcastle players involved likely on the way out, i guess i have to support italy, although i guess i'm rooting for the beauty of the game more than anything
 
 i think croatia and turkey have fighting chances to surprise a few people
 
 i'll go germany over croatia, and italy over spain with germany winning
 
 i'll go with france to disappoint, just because
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 05, 2008, 10:33:00 am
altidore to villarreal: http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/06/altidore-sold-t.html (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/06/altidore-sold-t.html)
 good move for him i guess
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 10, 2008, 08:41:00 am
nobody wants to talk about the italians getting throttled yesterday?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on June 10, 2008, 08:50:00 am
So far awful games as usual, but great to see Italy losing like this.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 10, 2008, 12:29:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  nobody wants to talk about the italians getting throttled yesterday?
I can talk about the Dutch all day long.  They looked amazing.  But yes, as Barcelona points out, the first couple of days haven't been the most exciting.  Part of that is two crappy host countries (although the Austrians were surprisingly strong going forward).  They wouldn't normally be in this tournament.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 10, 2008, 12:35:00 pm
the swiss might have made it to be fair. but they would have been better off playing qualifying matches the past two years though
 
 i think the inevitable van der vaart to toon rumor was floated this past weekend. the english rumor factory loves to torture us magpie supporters this time of the year. he's exactly what we need  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 10, 2008, 12:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  the swiss might have made it to be fair. but they would have been better off playing qualifying matches the past two years though
 
 
Sorry, yes, you are correct.  The swiss had a shot.  I was referring to Austria, but not very clearly.  But, without Frei, the Swiss might not score the whole tournament.  Or the world can finally meet Derdiyok. I'm going to enjoy watching Derdiyok, who could very well end up at Toon if he has a decent showing, or Arsenal if he has a great showing.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 10, 2008, 01:00:00 pm
yeah, he's been in the press. actually, i was going to make my team the all toon target team in the fantasy league. supposedly team ash has made a real bid for gomis, though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 12, 2008, 09:50:00 am
stupid soccernet with their flash site. i totally remembered to drop emre for turan and then forgot once i got home tuesday. also, stupid work computer for not having flash
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 13, 2008, 11:48:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i worded that poorly. if he plays for sunderland, he could continue to live in the same house
No he won't...if he moves from Toon to the mackem's he'll have to go into the police protective program.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 13, 2008, 11:51:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  What a  great week it's been for old mank!!!     :D    
 
 
    <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44687000/jpg/_44687321_munstertrophybody.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 
 Munster became kings of Europe for a second time as a ferociously committed display saw them edge past Toulouse in the Heineken Cup final in Cardiff.
 
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm)  
so people will likely still be happy about this in 4 weeks or so in the province? [/b]
I would think so...in Munster they still talk about the day they beat the All Blacks like it was yesterday....only it happened in 1978
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 13, 2008, 11:56:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i worded that poorly. if he plays for sunderland, he could continue to live in the same house
No he won't...if he moves from Toon to the mackem's he'll have to go into the police protective program. [/b]
most times yes, but toon supporters would be over the moon if we get actual money back for him. guy hardly plays
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 13, 2008, 02:01:00 pm
So let me get this straight.
 
 Scolari tells Ronaldo to go to Real because it's good for Cristiano.
 
 Scolari then denies Ferguson access to Portugal's camp to talk to Ronaldo.
 
 Scolari then accepts the Chelsea coaching job.
 
 Nice.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 13, 2008, 02:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  So let me get this straight.
 
 Scolari tells Ronaldo to go to Real because it's good for Cristiano.
 
 Scolari then denies Ferguson access to Portugal's camp to talk to Ronaldo.
 
 Scolari then accepts the Chelsea coaching job.
 
 Nice.
Forgive me for stating the obvious, but Dr. Phil Scolari knows Ronaldo would never move to a small club like Chelskzzzzzz so is trying to get him out of the premiership.
 
 I say if Real poney up enough dough (100mil+) we sell him and buy a whole new crew of players. No one player is bigger than the team. United won shitloads of trophies before him and we'll win a shitload more without him.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 13, 2008, 02:13:00 pm
Couldn't agree more, sir.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 13, 2008, 02:20:00 pm
well the whole chris fiasco stinks to high heaven, but its kind of funny to see man u say 'fuck off we dont want your £100 million' and liverpool struggle to buy james milner
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 13, 2008, 02:43:00 pm
<img src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:6DcAaWRVxLBJuM:http://bp3.blogger.com/_Dk0Tg6RNMog/RgsE9xnf5SI/AAAAAAAAAAo/MBBLrXWLZM0/s320/scolari.jpg" alt=" - " />
 Hear no
 
  <img src="http://www.bergproperties.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/dr-phil-i.jpg" alt=" - " />
 Speak no
 
  <img src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:DIrVwOGlOM4BIM:http://eur.i1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/premiere_photo/20050906/13/3935408947.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 see no
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 14, 2008, 12:43:00 pm
HOP HOLLAND!!!!
 
  <img src="http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/DJ/20080607/ned_JohannesSimon2.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 14, 2008, 02:48:00 pm
I would have no problem with the netherlands throwing the game to Croatia and so eliminating both Italy and France. Maybe they should try really hard but just wear clogs.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 16, 2008, 12:30:00 pm
The Turkey/Czech match yesterday was nothing short of incredible.  My favorite game of the tourney so far.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 16, 2008, 12:44:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 i think croatia and turkey have fighting chances to surprise a few people
 
i'm pretty close to being right here (for once)
 
 of course i took turkey because the toons hot after turan and i guess the price is skyrocketing  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 16, 2008, 01:06:00 pm
Hey, United start their title defense at home vs. the Toon on Aug 16.
 
 More United fixtures. (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={34009B66-8C50-42F4-816F-CE57868EDE49}&page=1)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 16, 2008, 01:21:00 pm
at man u and at arsenal 2 of the first three fixtures. fantastic
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 17, 2008, 12:20:00 pm
Man Utd have EPL away games after every single CL qualifying round game.
 
 Yet more evidence that the FA is not London biased........  :roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 17, 2008, 01:06:00 pm
What did you expect after three of the four CL finalists were English squads?
 
 BTW, who won the Champions League this year anyway?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 17, 2008, 06:39:00 pm
Don't remember...but don't they play in red and NOT FUCKING SCOUSERS!!!!!
 
   :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 18, 2008, 08:16:00 am
chelsea? i think they were the only ones in the last 4 that dont play in red   :p
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 18, 2008, 09:36:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  chelsea? i think they were the only ones in the last 4 that dont play in red    :p  
I said "don't they play in red" not "they don't play in red"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 18, 2008, 09:40:00 am
haha, sorry about that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 20, 2008, 02:00:00 pm
This is long, but funny
 
 http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3701301,00.html (http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3701301,00.html)
 
 http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3705608,00.html (http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3705608,00.html)
 
 http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3709851,00.html (http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3709851,00.html)
 
 http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3713770,00.html (http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3713770,00.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 25, 2008, 03:25:00 pm
So I'm not actually watching the Semifinal right now (meetings) and will not be checking back with this thread until after I do....
 
 But before I forget...I was listening to World Soccer Daily this morning and the guest, who is also a Fox analyst, said he told his boss how much he loves watching the Euro in HD.  
 
 His boss replied that there was no way FSC would have HD Soccer next year.
 
   :confused:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 26, 2008, 02:02:00 pm
He gets a lot of the soccer players wrong, but this would have been a good time....
 
 http://www.stopmikelupica.com/2008/06/steve_nash_baron_davis_and_jas.php (http://www.stopmikelupica.com/2008/06/steve_nash_baron_davis_and_jas.php)
 
 Says my buddy...
 
 "This might have been the coolest spur of the moment on the streets of NYC things that I've done since I've been here.  Even if it was like 5 deep and I had to stand on my tiptoes the whole time......Pretty damn cool."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 27, 2008, 11:01:00 am
So I hope all the neutrals like myself will be behind Spain....I couldn't take it if the friggin krauts won.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 27, 2008, 11:57:00 am
Well, normally in neutral matches where I don't have a preference, I employ the "Where were you in WWII?" corollary.
 
 For example, yesterday I was nearly alone in cheering for Russia.  When asked why I was rooting for the Commies, I replied, "where were they in WWII?"
 
 Now I'm not saying the Soviet's were saints, especially in the Baltics up through 1942, but even Hitler didn't think enough of them and their allegiance and by the time the Germans invaded Russia, the Soviet's were firmly in the Allies camp.  Couldn't say the same for Spain.
 
 Now, when it comes to two Axis powers, I usually root for broken legs (I even vowed to boycott a Germany/Italy final).  Spain, being the weakest of the Axis powers, and driven more by Franco than the Spanish people at the time, get a small reprieve.
 
 Therefore, I'm pulling for Spain tomorrow, somewhat begrudgingly.
 
 That being said, I think the krauts win 3-2.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 27, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
I agree with your way of thinking but come to the same conclusion from a much simpler logic.
 
 There were no spanish bombs that landed on me granny's house!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on June 27, 2008, 04:50:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Well, normally in neutral matches where I don't have a preference, I employ the "Where were you in WWII?" corollary.
 
 For example, yesterday I was nearly alone in cheering for Russia.  When asked why I was rooting for the Commies, I replied, "where were they in WWII?"
 
 Now I'm not saying the Soviet's were saints, especially in the Baltics up through 1942, but even Hitler didn't think enough of them and their allegiance and by the time the Germans invaded Russia, the Soviet's were firmly in the Allies camp.  Couldn't say the same for Spain.
 
 Now, when it comes to two Axis powers, I usually root for broken legs (I even vowed to boycott a Germany/Italy final).  Spain, being the weakest of the Axis powers, and driven more by Franco than the Spanish people at the time, get a small reprieve.
 
 Therefore, I'm pulling for Spain tomorrow, somewhat begrudgingly.
 
 That being said, I think the krauts win 3-2.
Can we apply this logic to the next world cup when the USA plays but change from WWII to the Irak invasion or to the involvement of the USA in latin america from the 50s to the 80s?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 27, 2008, 04:54:00 pm
No need to..everyone hates the yanks anyway.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 27, 2008, 04:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  No need to..everyone hates the yanks anyway.
Exactly.  I would be shocked if anyone outside of the States roots for the Americans.  And not because of foreign policy - mostly because their brand of football is shit.
 
 Nonetheless, you can employ whatever theory you'd like to choose how NOT to root for the US.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 30, 2008, 08:42:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  What a  great week it's been for old mank!!!      :D    
 
 
     <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44687000/jpg/_44687321_munstertrophybody.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 
 Munster became kings of Europe for a second time as a ferociously committed display saw them edge past Toulouse in the Heineken Cup final in Cardiff.
 
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm)  
so people will likely still be happy about this in 4 weeks or so in the province? [/b]
I would think so...in Munster they still talk about the day they beat the All Blacks like it was yesterday....only it happened in 1978 [/b]
ok, the answer here was a resounding YES. i saw more munster rugby flags in west cork than ireland flags. i think i'm going to have to watch some matches next season. might have to check out the gaas as well. hurling and football are both pretty crazy
 
 i usually root for whatever side looks more awesome singing their national anthem. i was too jet lagged to root hard yesterday, and i gave spain a break due to the 30 or so spain supporters running through the streets of dublin at 2 am after beating italy, all wearing their red tops. that was awesome
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 30, 2008, 09:12:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Well, normally in neutral matches where I don't have a preference, I employ the "Where were you in WWII?" corollary.
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  I agree with your way of thinking but come to the same conclusion from a much simpler logic.
 
 There were no spanish bombs that landed on me granny's house!!
seriously?  that kind of thinking seems... antiquated.  i guess you need some mechanism to choose a side.  personally, if i don't have a horse in the race, i don't worry too much about rooting for a team and instead hope/cheer for a good game.  i will admit that being surrounded by fans might sway my cheering, positively or negatively depending on their behavior.
 
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 i usually root for whatever side looks more awesome singing their national anthem. i was too jet lagged to root hard yesterday, and i gave spain a break due to the 30 or so spain supporters running through the streets of dublin at 2 am after beating italy, all wearing their red tops. that was awesome
uh, i'm assuming that's the jetlag still talking?  either that, or spain was playing a second match yesterday that was completely overshadowed by spain vs. germany... or maybe you're talking another sport?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 30, 2008, 09:15:00 am
they played italy last sunday
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 30, 2008, 10:03:00 am
Well, the better team clearly won. Germany didn't even show up, although I missed the first 10 minutes which were all kraut from what the commentators were saying....Besides I hate both Lehman and Ballack, typical arrogant German BRATwursts, so congratulations to Spain.
 
 I also must admit to being able to enjoy watching a tournament and not have to suffer watching my own country going out on a penalty shoot-out.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2008, 11:57:00 am
Boring, uninspired 90 minutes, but congrats to Spain, who clearly deserved to win.  I too am thankful it didn't go to PK's.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 30, 2008, 12:04:00 pm
joey barton pleads guilty:
 http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/30/sports/EU-SPT-SOC-Barton-Assault.php (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/30/sports/EU-SPT-SOC-Barton-Assault.php)
 rumor is that means we get our transfer fee back. see ya, joe
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 30, 2008, 12:38:00 pm
You know I saw that this morning bit didn't think it was worth posting....I forgot we had a toonie on the board.
 
 For the good of professional football I hope his next team is called "The Dog and Duck" or some other merseyside pub team.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2008, 05:04:00 pm
Euro over.  
 
 Transfer period begins.
 
 Chelsea sign Deco from Barca (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jun/30/chelsea.barcelona)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 30, 2008, 05:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Euro over.  
 
 Transfer period begins.
 
 Chelsea sign Deco from Barca (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jun/30/chelsea.barcelona)
Yet more proof they have no interest in the long-term development of a team buying an aging player like that. He just wants to buy the CL then he'll go do something else.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2008, 05:31:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  then he'll go do something else.
Like coach the US?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 30, 2008, 05:58:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  then he'll go do something else.
Like coach the US? [/b]
I was talking more about the russian.
 
 Dr. Phil's credentials don't impress me. I could coach Brasil to a world cup and how much silverware did he bring to Portugal?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2008, 06:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  I was talking more about the russian.
 
Oh.  I see.
 
 I'd prefer Huddink over Scolari anyway, but I'll take either for the US.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on June 30, 2008, 08:20:00 pm
the winner of this Euro was Cruyff. The midfield of Spain was made out of players (Xavi, Iniesta, Cesc) that grew up seeing Barcelona playing in the nineties, passing the ball all the time, even short passes in the corner kicks (sometimes even going back to the goalkeeper to start a new play). glad for Spain, although far from buying the red t-shirt and celebrating all night long.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 01, 2008, 10:03:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  , passing the ball all the time, even short passes in the corner kicks (sometimes even going back to the goalkeeper to start a new play).
They could also have been watching Manchester United these past few years, so I don't think 90's Barca are exclusive to that style. And to a lesser degree Arsenal, but they take it too far by trying to pass the ball all the way into the goal. Long-ball teams like Chelski will always get outplayed in the longrun.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 01, 2008, 10:34:00 am
hopefully the english national team has been watching manusa and le arse the past few years then. they could learn a thing or two
 
 luckily i did see many manchester united posters in ireland, so maybe things are looking up there
 
 however both have italian managers, so maybe euro '12
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 01, 2008, 11:16:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hopefully the english national team has been watching manusa and le arse the past few years then. they could learn a thing or two
 
 luckily i did see many manchester united posters in ireland, so maybe things are looking up there
 
 however both have italian managers, so maybe euro '12
The Irish love the EPL...just not the English!
 
 The big teams in Ireland are ManU, Liverpool and probably these days Sunderland. Chelski are johnny-come-latelys. Arseholes have a so-so following. Leeds have a bit of a following too.
 
 As for the English national team, you'll never get a bite out of me beacause I happen to agree they're they biggest underachievers in international footie.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on July 01, 2008, 11:46:00 am
the Irish have always been big supporters of the English and Scottish leagues, mainly because all our good players end up there....after a brief childhood flirtation with Notts Forest I formally switched by allegiance to Man U in 1981 when they signed Frank Stapelton from Arsenal for the then princely sun 900,000 pounds and a starting salary of 2 grand a week!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 01, 2008, 12:08:00 pm
Slight correction there mate...the EPL and Glasgow Celtic.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 01, 2008, 12:11:00 pm
yeah, i saw mostly manchester united and liverpool gear over there. i saw one guy in an everton shirt, but that was about it
 
 for a relatively small country, they have tons and tons of sports, though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 01, 2008, 12:15:00 pm
oh yeah, and roy was definitely in cork scouting city players for scumderland while we were over there
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 01, 2008, 12:22:00 pm
Magpies to discuss Barton future
 
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7483629.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7483629.stm)
 
 Lets face it...if there's a player out there who actually wants to play for the Toon you have to consider him.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 01, 2008, 12:35:00 pm
i believe with the suspended sentence, newcastle does not get the fee back. now the choice is sack him and get nothing back (and risk him turning it around), or keep him (hopefully at a reduced wage). so i guess we're stuck with ole joey, which is kind of a bummer
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 02, 2008, 08:32:00 am
toon sign jonas gutierrez. guess thats the end of milner?
 http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=760063 (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=760063)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 11, 2008, 01:45:00 pm
Come on lads, lets keep this thread alive. It was all the way back to page three!!!
 
 Ronaldo - anybody care if he stays or goes at this point? I certainly don't.
 
 (Question for United fans of course, I know toonheads don't care)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 11, 2008, 01:47:00 pm
NOT TRUE
 
 i almost bumped this today to post this: http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=769733 (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=769733)
 
 but seriously, saf cant let this go on, can he
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 11, 2008, 01:48:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
  Ronaldo - anybody care if he stays or goes at this point? I certainly don't.
 
 (Question for United fans of course, I know toonheads don't care)
I don't care if goes or not either, but he is the most well paid "slave" I've ever seen.  
 
 Go if you want, just go soon so we can spread the new found resources around.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 11, 2008, 01:55:00 pm
thats the problem though. when you have a big fish on the hook, you bleed them dry. manu have to get silly money from real, because the glazers didnt spend all that (borrowed) money to buy the second biggest club in the world. i really think that ronny got a little too billy big boots and overplayed his hand here. england really holds the clout over the club game at this point at least and real has less of play here than they would have even a couple years ago
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 11, 2008, 02:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
    england really holds the clout over the club game at this point at least and real has less of play here than they would have even a couple years ago
Beckham offered the same advice.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 11, 2008, 02:44:00 pm
i dont think £80 million even does it. when you come out and say 'i want a player on a team that doesnt need any money, but money is not an issue' your hand is shown. i bet the glazers (and sir alex) go for the nine digits.
 
 would you be interested (from a supporters view) in robinho as partial payment?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 11, 2008, 03:13:00 pm
I would demand 100million quid in a certified check...not this deferred payment b.s. Shove the little prick out the door and have him phone for his own taxi to the airport.
 
 Then buy a handful of quality players who will compliment Rooney, who, without a doubt is a better (team) player than Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a show-pony. Just think how many more goals United would have tallied had he passed to the wide open player rather than shoot it into the side netting himself.
 
 Mark my words, if he goes, like RVN we won't miss him much. It took us a good two seasons to get over Beckham leaving and he didn't score too many goals himself.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 15, 2008, 12:53:00 am
United Agree Fee on Berbatov? (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=555242&sec=england&cc=5739)
 
 I'm still hoping we go Dutch:  Huntelaar, Schneider, or Van Der Vaart.  I would love Schneider...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 15, 2008, 02:44:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
 Ronaldo - anybody care if he stays or goes at this point? I certainly don't.
question is: could ronal-dough come back if he wanted to? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1034984/Ronal-dough-boy-Fading-Brazil-star-piles-pounds-injury-lay-off.html)
 
 
  <img src="http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/07/14/article-1034984-01F2194200000578-887_468x891.jpg" alt=" - " />  
 
   <img src="http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/07/14/article-1034984-01F21DAF00000578-881_468x562.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 15, 2008, 08:47:00 am
there's no wc this year and he plays in italy...so meh
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  United Agree Fee on Berbatov? (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=555242&sec=england&cc=5739)
 
 I'm still hoping we go Dutch:  Huntelaar, Schneider, or Van Der Vaart.  I would love Schneider...
schneider would be a candidate to move, assuming nonfat ron moves to real. the rumors were hot that robinho was going to be partial payment though
 
 my thought is that huntelaar is never moving as he's had his choice of destination for a year and a half now. van der vaart might be a bit below manusa
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 15, 2008, 09:12:00 am
I know you all poke fun at Brits and their teeth...but for the love of God wouldn't do something if you had his money???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 15, 2008, 09:16:00 am
are those braces
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 15, 2008, 09:38:00 am
I don't know what the big deal is...he's 31 so his career is pretty much over now anyway.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 15, 2008, 09:48:00 am
and hes been fat for ages. never stopped him from scoring when he can get on the pitch anyway. i bet he ends up in mls
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 15, 2008, 10:57:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  and hes been fat for ages. never stopped him from scoring when he can get on the pitch anyway. i bet he ends up in mls
And make some doodle orhadontist extremely happy!
 
 And what the hell is Becks doing pimping sharpies??
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 15, 2008, 05:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   the rumors were hot that robinho was going to be partial payment though
I can assure what I don't want to see is nonfat Ronaldo move to Real with Robinho moving to Chelsea. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jul/15/premierleague.laligafootball)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 15, 2008, 05:18:00 pm
wow...yeah that would suck for you guys
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 15, 2008, 05:57:00 pm
Chelskzzz are no threat....you can only have so many egos in 1 locker room before a team implodes. Why do you think Drogba and Lampard want out? Plus, Dr. Phil Scolari...just what has he actually achieved? My mother could coach Brasil to a world cup final, and he didn't exactly set the world on fire with Portugal now did he?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 16, 2008, 10:54:00 am
Thank god that drama is over....who's the next big one?
 
 Ronaldinho to sign for AC Milan
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7505761.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7505761.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 16, 2008, 12:49:00 pm
Seems like I'm talking to myself on this thread, but what's new?
 
 I bet Sparky Hughes is a little peeved at taking the shitty job. He would've been a shoo-in for SAF's assistant with the prospect of becoming Fergies replacement as numero uno in a few years.
 
 My gut feeling is Keano will get his experience at Sunderland then take over at OT down the road.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 16, 2008, 12:52:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
  My gut feeling is Keano will get his experience at Sunderland then take over at OT down the road.
I have thought this from the beginning (I'm sure I'm on record here as saying it too).
 
 And I love Wesley Sneijder (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=555627&sec=europe&cc=5901).  His comments on nonfat Ronaldo are perfect - sell Ronaldo, take Schneider as partial payment and bring Van Der Vaart to OT with him.  That's a squad I would love to watch.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 16, 2008, 01:01:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
  My gut feeling is Keano will get his experience at Sunderland then take over at OT down the road.
I have thought this from the beginning (I'm sure I'm on record here as saying it too).
 
 And I love Wesley Sneijder (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=555627&sec=europe&cc=5901).  His comments on nonfat Ronaldo are perfect - sell Ronaldo, take Schneider as partial payment and bring Van Der Vaart to OT with him.  That's a squad I would love to watch. [/b]
Ronaldo has put himself in an awkward spot now over this fiasco...United players will resent him and Madrid players don't really want him. No matter what happens he will have a negative effect on either locker room. I bet they'll have to pull Gary Neville off him because that guy lives, eats and breathes for United.
 
 Personally, I just want him gone at this point. I wanted him gone after the Rooney incident during the world cup, but now I REALLY want him gone. Just like RVN, Staam and Becks before him - no one player is bigger than the whole.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 21, 2008, 11:16:00 am
intercity firm v. columbus crew (http://deadspin.com/5027171/when-premier-league-mls-fans-rumble)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 21, 2008, 11:19:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
  intercity firm v. columbus crew (http://deadspin.com/5027171/when-premier-league-mls-fans-rumble)
West Ham has fans???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 21, 2008, 11:26:00 am
west ham supporters are not well liked among fans of other english teams. just brutal
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 21, 2008, 11:47:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  west ham supporters are not well liked among fans of other english teams. just brutal
Dunno...I prefer them to scouse twats, but maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 21, 2008, 12:00:00 pm
liverpool supporters are pretty bad, of course
 
 but the hammer fans like to chant tumor boy at cancer survivors. that just uncool
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 21, 2008, 12:21:00 pm
Boulahrouz completes move from Chelsea to Stuttgart (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/7667052)
 
 And Makelele too apparently.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 21, 2008, 12:30:00 pm
i'll miss hearing him called 'the fine china'
 
 its funny, when the window opened, spurs were linked to every player under the sun and even landed modric. all the toon fans were all 'spurs are beating us to EVERYTHING'
 
 now they're selling like 8 players including their two best players. haha
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 21, 2008, 12:41:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Boulahrouz completes move from Chelsea to Stuttgart (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/7667052)
 
 And Makelele too apparently.
Makalele went to PSG
 
 I'm telling you...there's more than meets the eye as to what's going on at Stamford Bridge. A team that were runners up in the EPL and CL don't have players trying to get out for no reason.
 
 Do you know of a max exodus at the Emirates or Old Trafford? We have the Ronaldo fiasco but I think that's more a publicity stunt than anything else. Scum have some major insecurities with the owners issue, but even they aren't having transfer requests submitted. Crouch only went so he could get playing time.
 
 I give it three more years before chelskzzzzzz implode and become the next Leeds United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 21, 2008, 01:26:00 pm
i'm not saying i disagree, but flamini, hleb and adebayor is a pretty hefty load for the frenchies to replace
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 21, 2008, 01:45:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i'm not saying i disagree, but flamini, hleb and adebayor is a pretty hefty load for the frenchies to replace
Didn't arse want rid of flamini and hleb...not so much adebayor but one is not an exodus.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 21, 2008, 01:59:00 pm
they'd been trying to resign flamini all last season and hleb kind of forced his way out
 
 i agree that chelzzzz are in deep shit without their oil baron, and i agree that nothing good can come of that team long term. the way they run their team is not self-sustaining even in the sense of the rest of the big 4. id say arsenal have the bigger immediate issues though. losing a 35 year-old out of a loaded midfield isnt nearly as bad as losing half of your starting midfield and your best scorer. if you listen to wenger its not going to get much better for the fiscally either
 
 and of course if you sack rafa, there would be a spanish march out of scouseville too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 21, 2008, 02:10:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   if you listen to wenger its not going to get much better for the fiscally either
 
Which is amazing considering that was the whole  point of tearing down Highbury and building the new stadium.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 21, 2008, 02:27:00 pm
haha, total typo there
 
 (i kinda dont really believe wenger, either that or someone FUCKED UP)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 21, 2008, 03:21:00 pm
Wenger seems to be the only manager who's given money but never spends it!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 21, 2008, 07:52:00 pm
freddy adu to monaco  on loan (http://www.setantasports.com/en/Sport/News/Football/2008/07/21/Ligue-1-Adu-to-Monaco/?facets/sport-space/great-britain-locale/)
 
 hope he gets games at least
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 23, 2008, 05:13:00 pm
Blackburn accept Friedel bid from unnamed Premier League rival (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jul/23/blackburn)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 23, 2008, 05:26:00 pm
shitty or villa, right?
 
 looks like ole roy is taking on the spurs castoffs too. i think chimbonda might get eaten alive
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2008, 05:32:00 pm
The Halo's are off today, so I'm recording the MLS All-star game.
 
 Work case scenario, one team wins 1-0.
 
 Best case scenario, the Hammer Fans start a riot in Toronto.  Right?
 
 "We just went over for some tea and crumpets, and the Crew fans got mad."
 
 ..."On the list of unwanted gifts from Europe," he concluded, "this ranks somewhere between Ace of Base and smallpox." (http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/07/24/tea_crumpets_and_lashings_of_p.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 24, 2008, 06:09:00 pm
Don't the doodles realize that hooliganism at football matches is faux pas these days?
 
 This got a chuckle from me though.
 
 
 "According to Ohio police, the showdown was between 100 Columbus supporters and 30 West Ham fans. Talk about Light Brigade statistics. Columbus never stood a chance."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 25, 2008, 05:35:00 pm
Keeper Robinson joins Blackburn
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/blackburn_rovers/7526434.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/blackburn_rovers/7526434.stm)
 
 Friedel will most likely go to Villa now.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 28, 2008, 01:00:00 pm
This kind of bums me out.  It was a lot easier to be a fan of Robbie Keane at Tottenham than it will be at 'Pool.  I don't think I can do it now.  I also don't think his roving game style fits in well with the 'Pools passing gaming.  But he'll still score some goals.
 
 Liverpool close in on £18m deal for Keane (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=557938&sec=england&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 28, 2008, 02:47:00 pm
Never rated him much myself. Too selfish imho. Rafa will live to regret this if it goes through, especially if the rumoured fee is accurate.
 
 I suppose he'll sell a shitload of jersey's in Ireland though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 29, 2008, 12:35:00 pm
i guess it was actually £20.3m   :eek:  
 
 a fine player and all, but the man's 28. and how does rafa have money for him, but not barry. doesnt add up
 
 also, fingers crossed: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=558164&sec=europe&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=558164&sec=europe&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 04, 2008, 12:50:00 pm
takeover rumors AGAIN for the toon: http://www.goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=804467 (http://www.goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=804467)
 worth twice as much mankie's favorite oil baron   :eek:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 04, 2008, 12:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  takeover rumors AGAIN for the toon:  http://www.goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=804467 (http://www.goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=804467)
 worth twice as much mankie's favorite oil baron    :eek:  
What the hell do they call that??? A 96
 
 
  <img src="http://www.goal.com/images/29127_news.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 04, 2008, 12:57:00 pm
not that there's anything wrong with that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 04, 2008, 12:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  not that there's anything wrong with that
If you score goals at the pace of the Toon, you celebrate every goal like it might be your last....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 04, 2008, 01:03:00 pm
i dunno, mike's scored alot over his career. a better zong would be 'owen celebrates a entire month healthy!'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 04, 2008, 01:04:00 pm
(of course he's currently injured)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 04, 2008, 01:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i dunno, mike's scored alot over his career. a better zong would be 'owen celebrates a entire month healthy!'
Sorry, unlike you, I didn't recognize him at that angle.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 04, 2008, 01:06:00 pm
haha, photo has been on nufc blog all summer
 
  <img src="http://www.francescjosep.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/futboly.jpg" alt=" - " />
 edit: the entire gis for 'ronaldo gay' is amazing
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 04, 2008, 01:19:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 edit: the entire gis for 'ronaldo gay' is amazing
But for the stories of him, Nani and Anderson inviting hookers over by the boat load...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 04, 2008, 01:21:00 pm
and we all know about those portugese speakers and their hookers
  <img src="http://www.stuff.co.nz/images/720038.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 04, 2008, 02:12:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  haha, photo has been on nufc blog all summer
 
   <img src="http://www.francescjosep.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/futboly.jpg" alt=" - " />
 edit: the entire gis for 'ronaldo gay' is amazing
That's a classic....just classic.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 05, 2008, 11:46:00 am
Rooney set to miss season opener
  <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44893000/jpg/_44893958_rooney283.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7543390.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7543390.stm)
 
 Rooney and Ronaldo both out, not good. Tevez seems lost on his own up front.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 05, 2008, 11:56:00 am
the good news is the toon are facing the one team with more broken strikers than us
 the bad news is its still man u  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 05, 2008, 02:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
 
 Rooney and Ronaldo both out, not good. Tevez seems lost on his own up front.
Good maybe they'll come back to the US for a preseason tour and where the team can't contract any virii...
 
 Sounds like a good time to make a move on Berbatov to me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 05, 2008, 03:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
 
 Rooney and Ronaldo both out, not good. Tevez seems lost on his own up front.
Good maybe they'll come back to the US for a preseason tour and where the team can't contract any virii...
 
 . [/b]
Hello??? Herpes and HIV!!!???
 
 I don't think they'll tour the US anytime soon....I'm sure the Columbus Firm scared away all the red army!   :roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 05, 2008, 06:08:00 pm
THURSDAY, AUG. 7
 
 4:30AM ET Olympic Soccer - USA vs. Japan (MSNBC and UNIVERAL HD)
 
 SUNDAY, AUG. 10
 
 10:00am Community Shield: Man United vs. Portsmouth (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 06, 2008, 08:54:00 am
looks like toon is on fsc for the first two weeks at least. might not renew setenta right away
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 06, 2008, 09:39:00 am
Alan Smith to Everton for 3mil!!!
 
 Thoughts?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 06, 2008, 09:56:00 am
most of what i've read say its bollocks but if its true TAKE THEIR HANDS OFF
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 06, 2008, 02:33:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  looks like toon is on fsc for the first two weeks at least. might not renew setenta right away
Setanta is free the opening weekend anyway...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 06, 2008, 02:48:00 pm
sweet. i actually didnt have it at the begining last year
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 06, 2008, 03:08:00 pm
Ljungberg agrees to leave Hammers
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/7545703.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/7545703.stm)
 
 Why wouldn't they try to get a few quid for him? He could walk onto any premiership team imo.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 06, 2008, 03:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
 
 
 Why wouldn't they try to get a few quid for him? He could walk onto any premiership team imo.
Agreed.    Is there something else behind the scenes like a move back to his original squad or something?
 
 Maybe Calvin Klein will support an American Squad and he can play for them?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 06, 2008, 03:18:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
  Alan Smith to Everton for 3mil!!!
 
 Thoughts?
supposedly, smith is playing no part in today's friendly, despite no other strikers being healthy. sounds like a done deal   :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 06, 2008, 03:29:00 pm
I don't know if I can watch as many Newcastle matches without Smith.  He always kept it exciting because the more goals the Toon gave up, the more likely it was he was going to do something stupid and great a straight red.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 06, 2008, 03:56:00 pm
he's on £60k a week!    :eek:   for 0 goals!
 
 if felt like he was gone once kev said he only saw him as a forward. hopefully they'll go get that big swiss kid
 
 it was fun to watch him say "OH FUCK OFF" like 5 times a game
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Post by: vansmack on August 06, 2008, 04:51:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   hopefully they'll go get that big swiss kid
 
Eren Derdiyok.  Killed my Euro fantasy team but I still like him.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 06, 2008, 05:05:00 pm
ironically going to europe kind of killed my euro fantasy team
 
 ok, it wasnt that good to start with
 
 but yeah, i like him too. the rumor mill has had the toon all over him and inler all summer. then again gutierrez came out of nowhere, so we'll see
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 06, 2008, 05:38:00 pm
I will stay at Man Utd - Ronaldo  
 Cristiano Ronaldo has confirmed that he will remain at Manchester United "for at least another year", according to Portuguese newspaper Publico.
 
 Winger Ronaldo, 23, had frequently expressed his wish to leave for Spanish giants Real Madrid this summer.
 
 "Sir Alex Ferguson heard my arguments, I heard his and, in fact, it was settled that the best for both parties would be for me to stay," he said.
 
 "Therefore, I can confirm that, next season, I will play for Man United."
 
 Manchester United manager Ferguson said on Tuesday that the Ronaldo transfer saga was now "closed" after over two months of frenzied speculation that the player would depart Old Trafford for the Bernabeu.
 
 More soon.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 07, 2008, 08:45:00 am
apparently smith was injured and not sold last night, according to keegan   :(  
 
 edit: could be a smoke screen
 
 once real balked at the price after saying money was no object, i kinda thought he'd stay put
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Post by: vansmack on August 12, 2008, 12:19:00 pm
Does Rooney have a new smoking partner?
 
 Berbatov on brink of £28m move to Old Trafford (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=562191&sec=england&cc=5901)
 
 Supposedly, Tottenham are using the money on the Russian duo of Arshavin and Pavlyuchenko.
 
 Later on today I'll tell you about a great conversation I had with the head of EA Games - a Liverpool supporter.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 12, 2008, 12:40:00 pm
can we talk about spurs for just a second? am i crazy or are they getting a ton of credit for selling their best players and replacing them with mostly guys that have never played in a big time league and are kind of small. doesnt help that most of them play amf and really, do they need more of those. they havent addressed the defense at all
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Post by: vansmack on August 12, 2008, 02:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  can we talk about spurs for just a second? am i crazy or are they getting a ton of credit for selling their best players and replacing them with mostly guys that have never played in a big time league and are kind of small. doesnt help that most of them play amf and really, do they need more of those. they havent addressed the defense at all
So my good friend is Spurs fan and was instrumental in getting the Sports Guy to adopt Spurs in the premier league.  He's a sports radio host in LA and yesterday he had the head EA Sports in the studio to talk about Madden 09's release.  Turns out the head of EA Sports is a Liverpool supporter....
 
 When discussing Madden, he said that yes, Madden makes a lot of money, but does not top FIFA, which is EA's #1 game world wide.  I found that interesting given all the Madden hype we've had to endure.
 
 And the second thing was that as they were discussing Spurs, my buddy said that he was excited about Spurs making a run at the top 4, to which the Liverpool fan replied "No way."  As the argument went on, the head of EA said, "I'll bet you $100 Million that Spurs won't make the top 4."  My buddy obviously declined, but the fact that (1) he had $100 Million and (2) that he was willing to put that up over Spurs spoke volumes. The excitment of this season over Spurs was quickly deflated after that conversation....
 
 So I guess that means I agree with you, but that they'll be fun to watch in 5-4 mathces.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 12, 2008, 04:14:00 pm
i dont have £50m but i would put it against spurs playing cl football next year if i did
 
 while we are on the subject of teams outside of the big 3 plus chelzzzzz how about shitty just falling apart prior to the eve of the new season
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Post by: vansmack on August 12, 2008, 05:20:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  while we are on the subject of teams outside of the big 3 plus chelzzzzz how about shitty just falling apart prior to the eve of the new season
I'm on record somewhere as saying the Thaskin Shinawatra is a cheat and scoundrel and will destroy shitties finances (or something to that effect).
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 12, 2008, 05:27:00 pm
no one is surprised, but i figured it wouldnt be so soon after buying jo and nearly ronaldino
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Post by: Barcelona on August 12, 2008, 07:45:00 pm
Interesting UEFA Champions League games tomorrow
 
 Second leg on the 27th.
 
 Fiorentina - Slavia 2-0 (today)
 Sparta - Panathinaikos
 Spartak Moskva - Dynamo Kyiv
 Levski - BATE
 Shakhtar - Dinamo Zagreb
 Anorthosis - Olympiacos
 AaB - Kaunas
 Galatasaray - Steaua
 Juventus - Artmedia
 Brann - Olympique de Marseille
 Schalke - Atlético Madrid
 Twente - Arsenal
 Partizan - Fenerbahce
 Standard - Liverpool
 Guimarães - Basel
 Barcelona - Wisła Krakow
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 13, 2008, 10:25:00 am
Valencia reject Man Utd Silva bid
 
 Valencia have rejected a bid by Manchester United for David Silva, according to the striker's agent.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7556794.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7556794.stm)
 
 Seems Berbie is second choice.
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Post by: vansmack on August 14, 2008, 12:37:00 pm
That's a blessing in disguise.  The Spanish players struggle in England due to the agressiveness of the game (the new Liverpool and Arsenal notwithstanding, because they play like a bunch of pussies).
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 14, 2008, 12:46:00 pm
even with the attitude, id rather have berbatov, and i dont think its even close
 
 the tranfer window has been excruciatingly slow for me. totally ready for some actual matches
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Post by: vansmack on August 14, 2008, 02:18:00 pm
Matches?  Did somebody say matches?
 
 Saturday, August 16
 
 7:30am Arsenal vs. West Brom (Set)
 9:45am Middlesbrough vs. Tottenham (Set)
 10:00am Everton vs. Blackburn (FSC)  
 12:30pm Sunderland vs. Liverpool (FSC)  
 2:15pm Hull City vs. Fulham (Set Same Day Coverage)
 2:30pm West Ham vs. Wigan (FSC SDC)  
 4:00pm Bolton vs. Stoke City (Set SDC)
 
 Sunday, August 17
 
 8:30am Chelsea vs. Portsmouth (set)
 11:00am Manchester United vs. Newcastle (FSC)
 1:00pm Aston Villa vs. Manchester City (FSC SDC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 14, 2008, 02:19:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  even with the attitude, id rather have berbatov, and i dont think its even close
Silva's 22.  Berbatov is 28.  Otherwise, I agree with you.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 14, 2008, 02:46:00 pm
well, 27 till january, but berba's 1) proven in the prem and 2) not spanish
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 14, 2008, 02:51:00 pm
plus you already have two shorter second strikers that are 22 and 24. dont think age should matter, totally a win now buy
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Post by: vansmack on August 14, 2008, 02:52:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  well, 27 till january, but berba's 1) proven in the prem and 2) not spanish
I too would prefer Berba now, but I could see why United might go after both given how young Silva is (and ~10M Pounds cheaper).
 
 It's nice to have problems like these.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 14, 2008, 03:26:00 pm
see, i kind of just assumed one or the other. fergie doesnt seem to like to keep too many healthy forwards around
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 15, 2008, 12:19:00 pm
good news, looks like jonas will play sunday and coloccini may as well. guess i have to kind of root for argentina now
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 15, 2008, 12:49:00 pm
Tottenham striker Dimitar Berbatov is currently in Manchester to undergo a medical before joining Manchester United in deal worth £28 million. (Daily Mail 1525 BST)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 15, 2008, 01:24:00 pm
i believe thats not in time for this weekend though
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 15, 2008, 01:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i believe thats not in time for this weekend though
How long does it take to iron a number and name on a jersey?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 15, 2008, 01:47:00 pm
my understanding is that all paperwork for transfers eligible for this weekends games had to be in by 5 pm gmt today. hense why jonas was finalized and colo finally announced
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 17, 2008, 05:31:00 pm
Well..........that didn't go according to plan. I bet toon are delighted to actually not get torn apart let alone snatch a point.
 
 I'm hoping Pompey were awful and chelskzzzz not awesome
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 17, 2008, 06:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
  I bet toon are delighted to actually not get torn apart let alone snatch a point.
 
quite simply...yes
 
 really just wanted to see a better effort, fitter team, better defending and better passing. got all of the above. jonas really looks like the real deal
 
 really must not get too excited...
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Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2008, 12:50:00 pm
I'm shocked United could still managed a point when the midfield for the final 30 was John O'Shea, Darren Fletcher, Rodrigo Possebon and Paul Scholes.  That combo was so ugly, Fergie moved Oshea back to defend and Evra up front to support some kid named Rafeal, who normally plays defence...
 
 It was almost as though Fergie was proving a point that the owners may not have been willing to part with a couple million pounds for Berbatov and he deemed that ridiculous.
 
 The bench was:
 
 John O'Shea
 Rodrigo Possebon
 Gary Neville
 Darron Gibson
 Jonathan Evans  
 Rafael
 Tomasz Kuszczak
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Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2008, 12:58:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   jonas really looks like the real deal
 
He definitely had the pace to make United's defense take notice.  He's got to worry about his reputation of being a diver though, as he clearly was gunning for a penalty on more than one occassion.  And if the entire toon fan base starts wearing spider man masks, I think it's going to be the greatest thing ever.
 
 Sorry about my harsh comment on the phone yesterday.  I was driving from The OC back to SF and had to dwell on the draw (combined with an Angels loss) for a good 5 hours....
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 18, 2008, 01:02:00 pm
haha, i thought it was funny.
 
 that reminds me toon actually didnt use a sub. might mean smith is indeed on his way out yet, as this would be the sort of game for him to be used as oba was the only healthy striker. also it was interesting that he was talking with saf before kickoff
 
 kind of a bummer that the only goal against was while taylor was getting treatment, and right where he'd be standing. win some lose some that way, i suppose
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Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2008, 01:07:00 pm
Kind of a bummer that the only goal United gave up was a header to a 5 foot 8 inch guy...WTF?!?
 
 Yes, seeing Alex walking out talking to Alex made me do a double take.  He's definitely gone.  And I thought the same when Berbatov was on the pine, but they brought him in eventually, unlike Smith.  I think Berbatov moves as soon as the deal for Arshavin is complete.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 18, 2008, 01:19:00 pm
to be fair oba jumps extremely well. the bigger wtf was manu not marking him AGAIN on a subsequent corner
 
 i really dont want to harp on spurs, because i really dont want to be proven wrong...but replacing berba with arse shavin' is fucking stupid. they already have like 4 set up men. ive seen a few places (none reliable) that spurs are moving for mikey o though
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Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2008, 01:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
  I'm hoping Pompey were awful and chelskzzzz not awesome
In the first half, Chelsea were indeed awesome, and awesome without Drogba and Essien.  Ballack was as good as I've seen him and Bosingwa was a huge upgrade over whomever they used at right back last year.
 
 The second half, however, was a Mourinhoesque snoozefest.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 19, 2008, 12:33:00 pm
so this summer alone we've gone from king kev having £50m+ to spend to cutting mike wages to £80k a week to there a wage cap to selling mike to offering michael owen £140k a week
 
 gotta love the english press
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Post by: vansmack on August 19, 2008, 12:34:00 pm
If Owen is worth £140,000-a-week over three years then Shay Given deserves ownership in the team, but I doubt he would want it with deals being made like that.  He'd probably rather have the keys to the city.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 19, 2008, 12:43:00 pm
well given=god...
 
 i tend to disbelieve anything about the toon until its on nufc.co.uk. however, i kind of see the logic. if you pay mike £140k a week for 3 years its still cheaper than buying someone for £12m and then paying them £70k a week
 
 i say kinda because that assumes whoever comes in will also catch childhood diseases and get crocked repeatedly while on duty for his long-balling country. you know, so we have an apples to apples comparison    :roll:
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Post by: Barcelona on August 19, 2008, 02:10:00 pm
Newcastle fans around here? Today I saw a Spanish paper talking about Newcastle wanting to get Argentina's Saviola. Wouldn't do it, not only he is mediocre, but you can't trust him.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 19, 2008, 02:16:00 pm
ive been seeing the rumor floated around and i dont really buy it to be honest. supposedly a loan, but we already have 3 small strikers. the theory is that they'll sell mikey and bring him on, but then again i understand saviola is on some crazy money too
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 21, 2008, 02:51:00 pm
Rather odd don't you think?
 
 Arsenal sign Man Utd's Silvestre
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7573520.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7573520.stm)
 
 I suppose the very talented but young Arsenal side would benefit from his experience...but why would United sell to a close rival? We should forget Berbatov and sign Henry just to piss them off. I think we'd get him for a bargain at this point.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2008, 03:27:00 pm
big 3 + chelzzzz is rapidly becoming the big 2
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 21, 2008, 03:46:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  big 3 + chelzzzz is rapidly becoming the big 2
Not sure what you mean...which one is demoted?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2008, 05:04:00 pm
pool and arse dont seem to have the cash to keep up with you lot and the russian
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Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2008, 08:09:00 pm
Saturday, August 23
 
 9:30am Liverpool vs. Middlesbrough (Set)
 10:00am Tottenham vs. Sunderland (FSC)
 12:30pm Fulham vs. Arsenal (FSC)
 2:30pm Stoke City vs. Aston Villa (FSC)  
 5:00pm Newcastle United vs. Bolton Wanderers (Set Del)
 6:45pm West Bromwich Albion vs. Everton (Set Del)
 
 
 Sunday, August 24
 
 8:00am Wigan vs. Chelsea (Set)
 11:00am Manchester City vs. West Ham (FSC)
 
 
 Monday, August 25
 
 3:00pm Portsmouth vs. Manchester United (Set)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 22, 2008, 08:50:00 am
shit, guess i cant watch that pool match or risk getting spoiled   :mad:  
 
 maybe dvr that scumderland/spurs match and fast forward through half time
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 22, 2008, 10:15:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  pool and arse dont seem to have the cash to keep up with you lot and the russian
All this spending the russian is doing lends me to believe he's going to buy the premiership one way or another this season, even more so than in the past. The problem with that is so many egos on one locker room can cause major unrest. Unless Dr. Phil can keep it under control it's a recipe for disaster at Stamford Bridge. Morono's problem was he had the biggest ego in the locker room so this guy may be able to pull it off. If you look at Uniteds success in relation to the squad we only have/had Beckham and now Ronaldo who could be called 'celebs', the rest of the squad are pretty much blue collar lads who come to work like the rest of us. Giggs, Scholes, Neville, Ferdinand to name just 4 world class players who are never on the front of the tabloids.
 
 As for scum I couldn't give a rats arse if they end up in the Sunday pub league, and as much as I don't like Arse for the lack of home grown talent I do think Wenger is a good manager and they play very attractive football. Their cash problem is due to the fact they relied too heavily on selling the condos on the land that used to be Highbury and the real estate market over there is now in the crapper.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 22, 2008, 10:21:00 am
you left out wayne-o. what do you think about his smoking?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 22, 2008, 10:45:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  you left out wayne-o. what do you think about his smoking?
Roo was left out intentionally because he's still young so could still go the celebrity route. He's not good looking enough to be a poster boy for an electric wet/dry shaver, deodorant, Haynes or something so that's not going to happen, and the only time I've seen him on the front page was when he punched some idiot in a nightclub in manc after said idiot had insulted Colleen........and who wouldn't have done that so he gets a pass for that in my book.
 
 I think he's of legal age for smoking..kind of stupid for a player at that level to be smoking imo but it's his call I suppose.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 22, 2008, 11:48:00 am
youre not going to get me to agree that rooney isnt a celeb footballer, but i certainly would rather have saf managing egos rather than big phil. i've picked your side for the league pretty much based on that idea
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 25, 2008, 03:55:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 given=god...
 
just in case you forgot
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 25, 2008, 04:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 given=god...
 
just in case you forgot [/b]
It's a really shitty team when your goalie is your best player.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 25, 2008, 04:46:00 pm
gosh, i would hate to draw at home to such a team
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 25, 2008, 04:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  gosh, i would hate to draw at home to such a team
Our injury list is bigger than your whole squad, and United are notorious slow starters. Tonight looks like we've totally dominated yet another team for the second time in this very young season with very little in the way of goals to show for it.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 25, 2008, 04:58:00 pm
cry me a river, we only had one healthy striker and started a center back that had one whole training session with the team. if you had given maybe you would have got all 3 points     :p
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 25, 2008, 05:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  cry me a river, we only had one healthy striker and started a center back that had one whole training session with the team. if you had given maybe you would have got all 3 points      :p  
And if you had SAF instead of Keegan.......what's your point?
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Post by: vansmack on August 26, 2008, 12:01:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 given=god...
 
just in case you forgot [/b]
He has a distinct advantage as a goalie by not being weighed down with any silverware around his neck.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 27, 2008, 09:18:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 given=god...
 
just in case you forgot [/b]
He has a distinct advantage as a goalie by not being weighed down with any silverware around his neck. [/b]
Maybe that's why Alan Shearer was so agile in the box....until he came face to face with Roy Keane that is!!!!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 27, 2008, 10:26:00 am
you mean besides winning the league with blackburn?
 
 anyway, i thought for sure toon were going to get knocked out by coventry last night once i saw the starting 11, and it nearly happened. mikey would have had 5 goals if he played the whole game, though
 
 and then of course milner hands in a transfer request today
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Post by: vansmack on August 27, 2008, 04:59:00 pm
Standard Liege have just taken Liverpool to Extra Time in a Third Round Champion's League Qualifier...
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Post by: vansmack on August 27, 2008, 05:04:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  you mean besides winning the league with blackburn?
 
 
Safe to assume you were referring to Shearer and not Given here?  Given wasn't given a medal in 1994.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 27, 2008, 05:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  you mean besides winning the league with blackburn?
 
 
Safe to assume you were referring to Shearer and not Given here?  Given wasn't given a medal in 1994. [/b]
I think so....sure is a lot to be proud of in such a wonderful career playing at the top level for so many years....one lousy fucking poxy medal!!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 27, 2008, 05:27:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  you mean besides winning the league with blackburn?
 
 
Safe to assume you were referring to Shearer and not Given here?  Given wasn't given a medal in 1994. [/b]
yeah. i mean get yer zongs right
 
 i figured things werent so bad at manu that you guys had to go to the 'youve won fuck all' well so early in the season. maybe im wrong and should have picked chelsea
 
 so is the berbatov transfer totally off then?
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Post by: vansmack on August 27, 2008, 05:36:00 pm
Dammit.  Liverpool just scored.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 27, 2008, 05:39:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  you mean besides winning the league with blackburn?
 
 
Safe to assume you were referring to Shearer and not Given here?  Given wasn't given a medal in 1994. [/b]
yeah. i mean get yer zongs right
 
 i figured things werent so bad at manu that you guys had to go to the 'youve won fuck all' well so early in the season. maybe im wrong and should have picked chelsea
 
 so is the berbatov transfer totally off then? [/b]
Actually, we could've used the same 'you've won fuck all' for chelskzzzzz, couldn't we?
 
 As for berbatov - don't know, don't care. United will have a new striker by sep 1st though, just not sure who.
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Post by: vansmack on August 27, 2008, 05:40:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so is the berbatov transfer totally off then?
Only if you think the Arshavin and Payulchenko deals are done, and I don't think they are.  Spurs cannot do those deals with United's cash.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 27, 2008, 05:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Dammit.  Liverpool just scored.
They are the new chelskzzzz, putting your opposition to sleep then scoring in the 97th minute.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 27, 2008, 05:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so is the berbatov transfer totally off then?
Only if you think the Arshavin and Payulchenko deals are done, and I don't think they are.  Spurs cannot do those deals with United's cash. [/b]
i tend to think the arse shavin deal is doa, but even so, fiscal responsiblity hasnt exactly been spurs guiding force this summer
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2008, 12:56:00 pm
Since I know the rest of you plan your day around this like I did:
 
 
 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW
 
 Group A
 
 Chelsea (ENG) / AS Roma (ITA) / Bordeaux (FRA) / CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU)  
         
 Group B
 
 Internazionale (ITA) /  Werder Bremen (GER) / Panathinaikos (GRE)  / Anorthosis Famagusta (CYP)
 
 Group C
 
 FC Barcelona (ESP) / Sporting Lisbon (POR) / FC Basel (SUI) / Shaktar Donetsk (UKR)
         
 Group D
 
 Liverpool (ENG) / PSV Eindhoven (NED) / Marseille (FRA) / Atlético Madrid (ESP)
         
 Group E
 
 The Cup Holders (ENG) / Villarreal (ESP) / Celtic (SCO) / Aalborg BK (DEN)  
 
 Group F
 
 Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) / Bayern Munich (GER) / Steaua Bucharest (ROU) / Fiorentina (ITA)  
         
 Group G  
 
 Arsenal (ENG)  /  FC Porto (POR) / Fenerbahce (TUR) / Dynamo Kiev (UKR)  
 
 Group H
 
 Real Madrid (ESP) /  Juventus (ITA) /Zenit St. Petersburg (RUS) / BATE Borisov (BLR)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 28, 2008, 12:57:00 pm
Scum will have a tough time getting out of the group stages.
 
 I'm looking forward to the Celtic ties, should be fun!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 28, 2008, 01:51:00 pm
is it my imagination or did chelsea get the easiest group of all the england teams
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2008, 02:21:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  is it my imagination or did chelsea get the easiest group of all the teams
Just one edit...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 28, 2008, 02:30:00 pm
Come on Juventus and Zenit, between the two of you the Champions League could get rid of Real Madrid by December.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 28, 2008, 02:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  is it my imagination or did chelsea get the easiest group of all the england teams
And you're surprised because......?
 
 BTW. John Terry gets defensive player of the tournament for last year?? What the fuck is that all about?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 28, 2008, 02:55:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  is it my imagination or did chelsea get the easiest group of all the england teams
And you're surprised because......? [/b]
surprised that you didnt point it out first   :p
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2008, 03:26:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i tend to think the arse shavin deal is doa, but even so, fiscal responsiblity hasnt exactly been spurs guiding force this summer
Well, the Pavlyuchenko deal is almost done (despite him being cup tied...) and both Spurs and United are in Monacco for the UEFA/Champions draw so it likely that they will meet to discuss Berbatov.  Zenit's cheif is also in Monacco...I'm not as convinced as you are as I don't see Spurs letting Berbativ rot in the reserves.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2008, 03:29:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  and then of course milner hands in a transfer request today
That Owen deal could not have sat well with him...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 28, 2008, 03:34:00 pm
supposedly owen is not getting a new deal at this time either. its zogs and taylor that is the bone of contention
 
 the price being quoted is £10m, i say take their hands off at that number, provided its spent on a replacement
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 29, 2008, 07:32:00 pm
Something tells me that Man. United will not be as strong as last year (in part due to Ronaldo´s behaviour) and that Zenit will be a team to watch in the Champions League.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7584103.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7584103.stm)
 
 Man Utd 1-2 Zenit St Petersburg  
 By Sam Lyon  
 
 Manchester United's bid for European Super Cup glory ended in failure as Pavel Pogrebnyak and Danny goals earned Zenit St Petersburg a deserved win.
 
 Fresher and more incisive throughout, Zenit took the lead when Pogrebnyak forced home a header from close range.
 
 Playmaker Danny made it 2-0 with a fine solo goal on the hour, before Nemanja Vidic pulled one back from six yards.
 
 It was too little too late, though, with Paul Scholes sent off late on in a lacklustre showing from United.
 
 The midfielder saw red when he punched the ball into the net with only seconds left on the clock, earning himself a second booking and one-match European suspension that could see him sit out the Champions League group match against Villarreal.
 
 It was a sorry end to the match for United, who had looked off the pace throughout.
 
 With Zenit midway through the Russian season, the difference in sharpness between the sides was clearly evident, and Dick Advocaat's side showed they could well be a threat in this season's Champions League - even without Andrei Arshavin, who has been heavily linked with Spurs and who only played 45 minutes in Monaco.
 
 The defeat, though, will not be too hard to take for United, who not only had Cristiano Ronaldo watching from the stands, but who will also be hoping to add a striker - most notably Dimitar Berbatov - to their ranks before the close of the transfer window on Monday.
 
 United's strikers, however, are yet to find the net after three matches of the new season, with Darren Fletcher scoring their only goals in both of the opening two Premier League fixtures.
 
 United boss Sir Alex Ferguson said before the match that the traditional showpiece between the Champions League winners and the Uefa Cup champions was a game to be enjoyed, but there was little for the Scot to savour from the first 45 minutes.
 
 Zenit impressed with an attractive counter-attacking style en route to Uefa Cup glory last season and the same style had United on the back foot throughout, particularly down the Russian side's right, where Patrice Evra had a torrid time in the opening half.
 
 Konstantin Zyryanov and Aleksandr Anyukov were a constant threat and they forged the first clear openings of the match when twice they combined to get behind the United defence, only for Pogrebnyak to spoon over when well positioned on both occasions.
 
 Rio Ferdinand then had to be alert to deflect a Danny cross narrowly past the post, while at the other end a weak Carlos Tevez shot on 19 minutes was the best United could muster.
 
 Ferguson's side finally showed something like their best attacking play when Tevez forced an opening down the right wing, but Wayne Rooney dallied too long on his shot and the chance came and went.
 
 And minutes after Ivica Krizanac had forced Edwin van der Sar into an instinctive save from close range, Zenit's pressure finally told when Pogrebnyak forced the ball over the line after Igor Denisov had flicked on Dominguez's corner seconds before half-time.
 
 
 Zenit goalscorers Pogrebnyak, right, and Danny celebrate in Monaco
 As if United were not struggling already, Arshavin was introduced at the break and his trickery immediately had the English champions on the back foot.
 
 However, it was the diminutive Russian's potential replacement - Danny - who lit up the second half, the £25m signing from Dinamo Moscow dancing through the United defence and finishing with aplomb to make it 2-0 on the hour.
 
 Tevez, a rare bright spark for United, continued to play the workhorse role up front, though, and moments after the Argentine's industry had almost set Rooney free in the box, he drilled a fine effort over.
 
 It sparked a spell of pressure from United that had long been overdue, and with United's game finally clicking into gear, Zenit struggled to cope.
 
 It was no surprise, therefore, when Vidic reduced the deficit from Tevez's pull-back after good work in the box by Rooney - and it preceded a last 20 minutes that saw United pile forward and Zenit attempt to pick holes in the Reds' defence on the break.
 
 John O'Shea and Park Ji-Sung both had good opportunities blocked in the box, while Zenit keeper Vyacheslav Malafeev did well to deny Rooney with the minutes ticking down.
 
 However, the best chance of the latter stages fell to Zenit's Danny, the Portuguese star latching onto Arshavin's pass only to fire over with just Van der Sar to beat.
 
 And United's misery was complete a minute before time when Scholes was dismissed for an unnecessary handball.
 
 
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson:
 "I think we played our best football at 2-0, unfortunately. It was a warm night and so I think my players did OK under the circumstances.
 
 "I thought Tevez was outstanding - probably the best player on the park - and I thought we had the chances to do something in the game.
 
 "But Zenit are a very good team and they have exceptional movement. They'll be a force in the Champions League playing like that."
 
 
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 Manchester United: Van der Sar, Neville (Brown 76), Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Anderson (O'Shea 60), Nani, Scholes, Fletcher (Park 60), Rooney, Tevez.
 
 Zenit St Petersburg: Malafeev, Anyukov, Krizanac (Radimov 71), Puygrenier (Shirokov 62), Sirl, Denisov, Tymoschuk, Zyrianov, Dominguez (Arshavin 46), Pogrebnyak, Danny.
 
 Ref: Claus Bo Larsen (Denmark)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 30, 2008, 09:16:00 am
Barca - I think you're forgetting Zenit are in the middle of their season and United just started theirs so Zenit are much more polished than United. Plus United are struggling with a striker problem at the moment.
 
 The best team won and I'm not making excuses but facts are facts.
 
 I think United will challenge for all three major trophies again this season and will get at least one of them. Chelskzzz may have a good start but wait till those egos begin to clash, you will see a dip in form mid-season.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2008, 01:55:00 pm
I can't use my code so hopefully somebody else will:
 
 WORLD CUP QUALIFIER PRIVATE SALE:
 USA vs. CUBA at RFK STADIUM in WASHINGTON, D.C., OCTOBER 11
 
 EXCLUSIVE ONE-DAY SALE BEGINS NEXT TUESDAY (SEPTEMBER 2) AT 10 A.M. ET
 
 As a special benefit to our fans, U.S. Soccer has arranged for you to order tickets ahead of the general public for the U.S. Men's National Team's semifinal round qualifier for the 2010 FIFA World Cup when they face Cuba at RFK Stadium in Washington, D.C., on Saturday, October 11, at 7 p.m. The game marks the team's long-awaited return to the Nation's Capital for the first time in four years. RFK last hosted the U.S. men on Oct. 13, 2004, when an Eddie Johnson hat trick paced the United States to a 6-0 victory against Panama to close out the semifinal phase of qualifying for the 2006 FIFA World Cup.
 
 Your one-day private sale starts next Tuesday (September 2) at 10 a.m. ET and ends the same day at 11:59 p.m. (tickets then become available to Visa� cardholders only on September 3 at 8 a.m., followed by the general public sale on September 4).
 
 Advance ticket prices are $28 Endlines; $38 Sidelines; $50 Midfield; $75 Mezzanine; and $95 Club Seats (includes wait service). All prices do not include convenience and handling charges (which are added through Ticketmaster). This private sale is only available online by purchasing at: http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1500410CA6F55DD0 (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1500410CA6F55DD0)
 
 To submit your order, use the following password in the space designated on the Ticketmaster.com order page: FIRST (please note: Password must be entered in UPPER CASE)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 01, 2008, 10:43:00 am
New Man City Owners Flex their Muscle with ₤34 Bid for Berbatov (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/sep/01/manchestercity.tottenhamhotspur)
 
 Waaaay too much.  I'd spend a third of that and go get Huntelaar.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 01, 2008, 11:44:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  New Man City Owners Flex their Muscle with ₤34 Bid for Berbatov (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/sep/01/manchestercity.tottenhamhotspur)
 
 Waaaay too much.  I'd spend a third of that and go get Huntelaar.
Yep, we should be United's Chief Exec's...I would've cashed in on Ronaldo too, truth be known, and bought Arsenal Football club as our reserve side!!!  ;)
 
 The deal for Saha to Everton went through evidently so United need to do something before the days over.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 01, 2008, 01:00:00 pm
last day of the window is never boring eh
 
 think i might have to go the that wc qualifier at rfk. thanks for posting that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 01, 2008, 08:22:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i tend to think the arse shavin deal is doa, but even so, fiscal responsiblity hasnt exactly been spurs guiding force this summer
Well, the Pavlyuchenko deal is almost done (despite him being cup tied...) and both Spurs and United are in Monacco for the UEFA/Champions draw so it likely that they will meet to discuss Berbatov.  Zenit's cheif is also in Monacco...I'm not as convinced as you are as I don't see Spurs letting Berbativ rot in the reserves. [/b]
See.  And Tottenham held out so long they got Frazier Campbell on a year long loan instead Arshavin.  Well played Spurs, well played. What were they thinking?  
 
 United Finally Complete Berbatov Deal (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=568758&sec=england&cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 01, 2008, 08:39:00 pm
And Robinho to Manchester City.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7593026.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7593026.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 01, 2008, 09:22:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  ]See.  And Tottenham held out so long they got Frazier Campbell on a year long loan instead Arshavin.  Well played Spurs, well played. What were they thinking?  
 
 United Finally Complete Berbatov Deal (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=568758&sec=england&cc=5739)
better off with campbell and £20m than arse shavin in my opinion. they dont need him and well played. actually better for manu, they get the best f out there and their young player should get great service.
 
 toon get a guy named nacho on loan and xisco. we really needed cover at lb. honestly glad we didnt over spend
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 02, 2008, 08:43:00 am
apparently kev has decided to prove the mankies of the world right and walk the fuck away at the first sign of trouble. i am livid
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 02, 2008, 09:11:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  apparently kev has decided to prove the mankies of the world right and walk the fuck away at the first sign of trouble. i am livid
;)  
 
 See, I tol....aw, never mind
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on September 02, 2008, 09:48:00 am
oh well, hopefully he walked away with a fat payoff - what an f'ed up club
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  yeah, quite a shock, and although I'm happy to be proven wrong, much like the Gibbs return here in DC (except Keegan never really won anything first time round) it will probably all end in tears again....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 02, 2008, 10:01:00 am
now theyre saying sacked. makes less sense
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 02, 2008, 11:01:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  now theyre saying sacked. makes less sense
Football manager is probably one of the few professions were it's better to be sacked than quit. They have to pay your contract out if they fire you I think, but don't if you walk out.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 02, 2008, 01:21:00 pm
I'm just wondering....do you think Robinho realizes Manchester has two teams?
 
 He will do once he arrives at Middle Eastlands!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 02, 2008, 01:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  now theyre saying sacked. makes less sense
Football manager is probably one of the few professions were it's better to be sacked than quit. They have to pay your contract out if they fire you I think, but don't if you walk out. [/b]
i completely agree. why get rid of kev on purpose. i could see him going nuts and leaving but toon were playing better and they bought keegan type of players
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 02, 2008, 02:26:00 pm
now...not sacked?
 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=568956&sec=england&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=568956&sec=england&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on September 02, 2008, 03:05:00 pm
shouldnt this go in the jokes write themselves thread??   :D  
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  now...not sacked?
  http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=568956&sec=england&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=568956&sec=england&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 02, 2008, 03:15:00 pm
yes
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 02, 2008, 04:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  yes
I'm sure Kevo walked out in a sulk because he didn't get all his own way......just like he always has and always will.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 02, 2008, 04:25:00 pm
current rumor (or rumour) going around is that wise and or ashley tried to swap barton and cash for warnock without telling kev
 
 that deal would have made me happy   :o
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 03, 2008, 09:03:00 am
Manchester City's new owners will follow up a £135m bid for Manchester United winger Cristiano Ronaldo with offers for Liverpool striker Fernando Torres and Arsenal midfield man Cesc Fabregas. (The Times)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 03, 2008, 09:54:00 am
There you go...probably heading up to St. James as I type!!!!
 
 Curbishley quits as West Ham boss  
 
 
 Alan Curbishley has resigned as manager of Premier League club West Ham United.
 
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/7596106.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/7596106.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 04, 2008, 02:31:00 pm
FUCK (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=569289&sec=england&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 04, 2008, 02:33:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  FUCK (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=569289&sec=england&cc=5901)
I'm not goign to lie - when I first read the headline I thought it said re-signs as in he quit, then took the job again, which would have been odd.
 
 Bummer for you.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 04, 2008, 02:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  FUCK (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=569289&sec=england&cc=5901)
If I was a toon fan I'd be saying FUCK YEAH!!! Just what has he achieved as a manager?
 
 If Toon don't jump all over Curbishley, providing he wants to go to that fucked up organization of course, then they're morons.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 04, 2008, 02:39:00 pm
of course i could curse out ashley and wise (and i am) and i could call kev sacless or something, but really i blame joey fucking barton. got 2 managers sacked in just over a year. fuck that dick   :mad:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 04, 2008, 02:48:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  FUCK (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=569289&sec=england&cc=5901)
If I was a toon fan I'd be saying FUCK YEAH!!! Just what has he achieved as a manager?
 
 If Toon don't jump all over Curbishley, providing he wants to go to that fucked up organization of course, then they're morons. [/b]
i know youre going for a wind up here, but any way you slice it its a fucking stupid time and way to lose a manager
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 05, 2008, 01:39:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   but really i blame joey fucking barton. got 2 managers sacked in just over a year. fuck that dick    :mad:  
Well, you won't have to worry about him for 6 games.... (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=569648&sec=england&cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 05, 2008, 01:50:00 pm
he got off light, to be honest
 
 hey smackie, are there no good internationals on setanta/fsc this weekend, or is that my imagination
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 05, 2008, 02:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  he got off light, to be honest
 
 hey smackie, are there no good internationals on setanta/fsc this weekend, or is that my imagination
You'd be a fool to not watch Cuba vs. US (8 PM Sat on ESPN Classic) and Armenia vs. Turkey (Noon Saturday on Setanta), but not for the soccer.  I love when foreign policy enemies matchup against each other.  Otherwise you're right - not a lot of good matches on the tube.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 05, 2008, 02:21:00 pm
i might need a break from footie this weekend anyway. might make my head less likely to explode
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 06, 2008, 06:06:00 pm
And the worlds greatest underachievers manage to squeeze victory over the footballing world giants known as Andorra!  :p
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 08, 2008, 11:10:00 am
Nothing to say, just saw this photo on the internet and it blew me away so thought I would share it with you all.
   <img src="http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif" alt=" - " />
 
 *edit*
 Disregard, it wouldn't post.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 08, 2008, 12:12:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
  Nothing to say, just saw this photo on the internet and it blew me away so thought I would share it with you all.
    <img src="http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif" alt=" - " />
 
 *edit*
 Disregard, it wouldn't post.
Post the link so we can click it.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 08, 2008, 01:11:00 pm
was it fat ashley racking up a quarter million dollar bar tab in nyc
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 08, 2008, 01:56:00 pm
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/1957426917_1e7a336b1b.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/1957426917_1e7a336b1b.jpg)
 
 It's not footie related in the slightest....I was googling something else and got the spelling wrong so this came up. The lighting is phenomenal and the photo just amazing...imho of course.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 08, 2008, 01:57:00 pm
Okay....something's effing up, now it posted twice.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 08, 2008, 02:09:00 pm
awesome
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 08, 2008, 02:11:00 pm
No argument from me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 08, 2008, 11:41:00 pm
Gerrard Ruled out of United Clash (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=570435&sec=england&cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 09, 2008, 06:48:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Gerrard Ruled out of United Clash (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=570435&sec=england&cc=5739)
No Gerrard, no Torres....who's left in that squad of no-names?
 
 I enjoy watching Gerrard have crappy games against United, like he always does. It seems his hatred for us is so strong it messes up his concentration or something.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 09, 2008, 12:29:00 pm
Jozy Altidore had a hat trick in his frist game with Villarreal.  Sure, it was a friendly, but still.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 09, 2008, 01:44:00 pm
good for him
 
 seeing as how they dont have lights anywhere in CONCACAF, why dont they play day matches?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 10, 2008, 08:12:00 pm
MY GOD!!! England finally play to their potential...the only team to beat croatia on home territory, and slaughtered them too. 4-1
 
 I'm not getting carried away but just enjoying something positive in the England camp for a change.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2008, 11:44:00 am
Rooney was brilliant playing off the ball.  It was exactly the way Ferguson plays him when Ronaldo's on the pitch.
 
 I'm giddy about Berbatov this weekend after watching that performance.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 11, 2008, 05:12:00 pm
"official" protest logo: http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/263/sacktheboard1zg3.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/263/sacktheboard1zg3.jpg)
 interested to see what happens saturday, but nothing good can come of this
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2008, 05:19:00 pm
Saturday, Sept 13
 
 7:40am Liverpool vs. Manchester United (set)
 9:45am Blackburn Rovers vs. Arsenal (set)
 10:00am  Newcastle vs. Hull City (fsc)
 12:30am Manchester City vs. Chelsea (fsc)  
 4:00pm West Bromwich Albion vs. West Ham United (Set)
 5:45pm Fulham vs. Bolton Wanderers (Set)
 11:00pm Portsmouth vs. Middlesbrough (fsc)  
 
 Sunday, Sept 14
 
 11:00am Stoke City vs. Everton (fsc)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 15, 2008, 10:11:00 am
so when whatever crazy billionare buys newcastle goes to hire a new manager, there should be a one question interview:
 "what is zog's position"
 if they answer anything but fucking left back, hire them
 
 i mean hull city? its going to be a long one
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2008, 06:04:00 pm
WTF?
 
 I replied to your post earlier, but it didn't take.
 
 Anyhow, what I said was that as bad as United played (and the second half was probably the worst half I've ever seen a United team play), I felt much better about my team after watching that clusterfuck on Tyneside.  I mean, the Board, the protests, the fans, Hull City, the red card - just an absolute mess.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2008, 06:12:00 pm
UEFA Champions League Matchday 1
 
 Tuesday, September 16
 
 2:40PM Marseille vs Liverpool (Set)
 2:45PM Chelsea vs. Bordeaux (ESPN2)
 5:00PM Barcelona vs. Sporting Lisbon (ESPN Classic)
 5:35PM Panathinaikos vs Inter Milan (Set)
 7:15PM PSV Eindhoven vs Atletico Madrid (Set)
 
 
 Wednesday, September 17
 
 2:45PM Dynamo Kiev vs Arsenal (Set)
 2:45PM Man United vs. Villarreal (ESPN2)
 5:00PM Real Madrid vs. Bate Borisov (ESPN Classic)
 5:35PM Porto vs Fenerbahce (Set)
 7:30pm Juventus vs Zenit St. Petersburg (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 15, 2008, 07:22:00 pm
i watched that match with my brother in law, who supports spurs but for some reason kind of like 'pool. i had to defend manusa and had to bathe post match
 
 frankly as far as the toon goes, bill fucking gates is rumored to be in the hunt. i predict bill cosby next
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 16, 2008, 10:08:00 am
one thing toon and man u have in common: shirt sponsors in loads of trouble
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 16, 2008, 10:14:00 am
*News Conference*
 
 Mr. Mankie is expected to make a full recovery. The injury to his trachea is thankfully non-life threatening and the rope-burns around his neck should not leave lasting scars
 
 We will keep you posted on his condition.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 16, 2008, 11:52:00 am
Thank you.  Your silence was deafening....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 17, 2008, 09:11:00 am
Got laid off so have been in Tampa to do some work on a friends house that she's totally renovating to make a few quid.
 
 I'm not feeling good about this season, even at this early stage. So many injuries so early on is not good karma.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 17, 2008, 09:43:00 am
Be careful with Villareal, they can be a very strong team. By the way, what website are you all using to follow the scores of all the games? I used to use the spanish newspapers such as www.elpais.com, (http://www.elpais.com,) www.marca.com (http://www.marca.com) or others such as www.livescore.com. (http://www.livescore.com.) However, this year I am quite impresed by the uefa website.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 17, 2008, 09:44:00 am
Be careful with Villareal, they can be a very strong team.
 
 By the way, what website are you all using to follow the scores of all the games? I used to use the spanish newspapers such as www.elpais.com, (http://www.elpais.com,) www.marca.com (http://www.marca.com) or others such as www.livescore.com. (http://www.livescore.com.) However, this year I am quite impresed by the uefa website.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Venerable Bede on September 17, 2008, 02:29:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Be careful with Villareal, they can be a very strong team.
 
smackie and i are in a cone of silence today about this game. . .
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 17, 2008, 04:45:00 pm
It's official, United are the new Arsenal. They completely control the game while trying to dribble the ball over their opponents goal line.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 19, 2008, 12:25:00 pm
Saturday, Sept 20
 
 7:40am Sunderland vs Middlesbrough (Set)
 9:30am Liverpool vs. Stoke City (Set)
 10:00am West Ham vs. Newcastle (FSC)  
 12:15pm Blackburn Rovers vs. Fulham (Set)
 12:30pm Bolton vs. Arsenal (FSC)  
 
 
 Sunday, Sept 21
 
 6:55am West Bromwich Albion vs. Aston Villa (Set)
 9:00am Chelsea vs. Manchester United (FSC)  
 10:00am Manchester City vs. Portsmouth (Set)
 12:00pm Hull City vs Everton (Set)
 4:30pm Tottenham vs. Wigan (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 19, 2008, 12:40:00 pm
thats alot of sunday games
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 19, 2008, 12:45:00 pm
I was thinking the same thing, especially since I'm busy all day...I blame UEFA.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 19, 2008, 12:58:00 pm
i dont watch much prem on sundays during nfl season, especially when the weather is nice.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 19, 2008, 02:08:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i dont watch much prem on sundays during nfl season, especially when the weather is nice.
faggot doodle!!!
 
   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 19, 2008, 02:26:00 pm
That'a weird because the good teams are on long before the start of the NFL games...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 19, 2008, 02:37:00 pm
i like to get up and bike or run, and then i clean up and get ready because my friends all come over for the steelers games. should be interesting this year because they play so many late ones
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 22, 2008, 11:52:00 am
Can anyone explain what happened between Rio and Didier "help I've fallen and I can't get up" Drobga right at the end of the game? I watched the game but missed the drama at the end.
 
 jammie fucking blue and white wankers.....Looked like United just ran out of steam at the end though.
 
 Also....the FA (fucking arseholes) resind a red card for Terry then proceed to book 7 united players for infringements such as sneezing. What's up with that shit?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 22, 2008, 12:08:00 pm
it looked like there was a foul on drogba (could have gone either way in my opinion) just at the edge of the box at the end of the game. would have been a dangerous free kick, and it looked like a second yellow was going to come out. i think they just blew the whistle instead, but i would guess that rio was upset at drogba's flop maybe leading to a suspension and a stolen 4 point swing
 
 i thought the yellows were a bit much. not scholes of course
 
 toon of couse get throttled by a the hammers. full credit to the opposition, but is it too much to ask for a manager that picks a side that makes sense? oh it is, i see. maybe the nigerians will hire a proper manager  :roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 22, 2008, 01:53:00 pm
I think it was frustration over Riley, but it could have been a myriad of things..
 
 (1) Rio was upset that it was a foul?
 (2) That Riley ended the match while the ball was in play or while Drogba was recieving treatment?
 (3) Rio thought a foul was called when it was actually just the end of the game?
 
 Who knows, really...
 
 I was more concerned about Berbatov's work ethic.  With Park, Hargreaves, Fletcher and Rooney working their asses off all around him, he sure seemed to be standing around a lot.  I would never question SAF, but bringing Ronalado in with a goal lead seemed an odd choice.  I'm sure Tevez was an eventual sub, but Van Der Saar ruined that.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 23, 2008, 09:06:00 am
I think Ronaldo came on to put chelskzzz on their back foot a little as they were starting to run at united. As the saying goes, the best defense if offense.
 
 Berbatov will probably end up being the biggest waste of money since Veron in my opinion....I don't know what SAF saw in him in the first place.
 
 It seems VDS has his head somewhere else this season, Kuczack should be the starter and VDS on the bench as a very strong back up seeing as he's our keeper for the future.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 25, 2008, 09:33:00 am
crashed out of the league cup, big surprise
 
 really really early but we could very well go down. terry venerables needs to save us  :roll:
 
 mike owen sure seems to be scoring a fuckload of goals though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 01, 2008, 10:11:00 am
You don't offer a manager with the calibre of Venables "an interim management position" What a fucking insult. Keegan isn't worthy of wiping the last dribble of piss from Venables dick.
 
 Just shows what a fuck up toon are at the moment.
 
 Maybe United shold buy them to help with their injury concerns at the moment. I'm sure there's a couple of players we could use on an interim basis...plus, putting Rooney and Barton in a room together would be worth the price of admission alone.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 01, 2008, 10:24:00 am
haha...when you are up for jobs with bulgaria, iran and leicester getting paid £1m for 10 weeks work seems like a good idea. there never was a permanent job to be offered, so whatever venables reasons, entering into talks he already new this. i agree toon are a mess right now, though. i dont think tv would have been the answer
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 07, 2008, 12:57:00 pm
Former Smiths frontman Morrissey has started supporting Millwall and hopes to fly in from Los Angeles to attend the Lions' next home game against Leeds. (Daily Telegraph)
 
 I thought he was living in Rome these days???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 21, 2008, 08:54:00 am
can someone please explain to me how rob styles still has a job?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 21, 2008, 08:29:00 pm
I don´t recall seeing so many goals in a day in the Champions League.  Great to see that Real Madrid may not pass the last 16.
 
 Manchester U. 3 - 0 Celtic
 Villarreal 6 - 3 Aalborg BK
 Bayern Munich 3 - 0 Fiorentina
 Steaua Bucuresti 3 - 5 Lyon
 FC Porto 0 - 1 Dynamo Kyiv
 Fenerbahce 2 - 5 Arsenal
 Zenit St. Petersburg 1 - 1 BATE Borisov
 Juventus 2 - 1 Real Madrid
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 22, 2008, 08:46:00 am
guy on espn news this morning butchered the pronuciations of both berbatov and juventus. i laughed
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 22, 2008, 11:13:00 am
Milan is getting Beckham? Milan is now the official football cemetery. Having Berlusconi as president made me dislike this team, but with the recent acquisitions I am losing the respect I had for this team.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 22, 2008, 12:24:00 pm
an over 30 footballer playing for basically a year straight for club and country stepping up in competition. what could possibly go wrong
 
 if they are offering odds on becks never coming back to mls, take it
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 22, 2008, 02:33:00 pm
It shows very poor planning on milan's side. Rather than making a new team for the future, they get players like Sevchenko, Ronaldinho... and now Beckham. Just a commercial decision, but haven't seen them using the money they get wisely. Not a surprise anymore not seeing them in the Champions League.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 22, 2008, 07:32:00 pm
Beckham is only doing it to stay in the England squad. He still needs matches now the MLS season is over for the Galaxy or he'll never get picked by Capello....As for Milan, who wouldn't want Beckham on their team, even at his relatively old age??? Plus Capello (Italian) Milan  (Italian)...who do you think arranged that deal??? I can just imagine that phone call,
 
 "Ciao Antonio, this is Fabio ah needa da Beckham to play for da futbol now stupid Americano season isa ova....ya helpa pizano outa here?" "Sure Fabio senda heem rite ova...Ciao!!!"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 23, 2008, 11:06:00 am
oh im sure becks will sell lots of shirts for milan, though they have a crowded midfield, but whatever
 
 my concern isnt if its good for milan, its is it go for mls. i say no. as far as being good for england, becks is more mascot than factor at this point
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 23, 2008, 01:27:00 pm
I disagree totally, Beckhams has always been a team player....by that I mean he's an intregral part of a team even if not the most gifted player individually. He can put the ball on the toe of any striker so makes more goals....in America you call it 'assists'.... than he actually scores himself. I would take Beckham on my team over Ronaldo any day. Ronaldo is gifted brilliant and sometimes unbelievable, but not the greatest team player. Rooney is part Beckham part Keane but can't fill the shoes of both.
 
 George Best summed Becks up perfectly, and I'm paraphrasing because I don't remember it exactly "Beckham is slow, he can't tackle dribble or shoot, other than that he's a great player" United still haven't filled the void left when they sold him to Madrid..or Keane for that matter but we're talking about Beckham now.
 
 England still need Beckham while they redefine themselves into the team they have the potential to be under a manager who's not a 'yes man' to the FA, and if they need Beckham then he needs to stay match fit....hence Capello arranging the loan move to Milan, and we all know he did, it was on the BBC website this morning. (After I had speculated it last night I might add!!!)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 23, 2008, 01:59:00 pm
i heard the same thing on fsc's call in show on monday, its been going around
 
 dont get me wrong i love becks, i love his game, and i love his attitude. but the simple fact is england needs to get to the point where they dont need him anymore, because he isnt getting any younger. how many minutes has he played during the last two sets of internationals? 30 in 4 games?
 
 in my opinion he needs an offseason of rest, modelling and shagging his skinny ass wife
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 24, 2008, 10:08:00 am
He could get a lot of rest and I'd be happy to shag his skinny arsed wife for him....anything for my national team!
 
 I agree with what you say about him getting older and England need to get ready to move on without him, but with tossers like Gerrard, Terry and  Lampard who don't seem interested in playing for their oountry if you go by their performance for club then country.  We need another Beckham who has a 'lion heart' Rooney does but he's a totally different player than Becks so not a replacement.
 
 Anyway, that's why they pay Capello the big bucks to figure that stuff out.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 28, 2008, 08:53:00 am
whats up with all the midweek games
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 07, 2008, 01:07:00 pm
I was able to catch exactly one match the entire month of October.  Looking forward to reaquanting myself with my couch this weekend...
 
 SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 8
 
 7:40am Arsenal vs Man Utd (Set)
 9:40am West Ham vs Everton (Set)
 10:00am Sunderland vs Portsmouth (FSC)  
 12:30pm Liverpool vs West Brom (FSC)
 5:00pm Hull City vs Bolton (Set)
 
 
 SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 9
 
 8:25am Blackburn vs Chelsea (Set)
 11:00am Fulham vs Newcastle (FSC)  
 4:30pm Manchester City vs Tottenham (FSC)
 6:45pm Aston Villa vs Middlesbrough (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 07, 2008, 01:18:00 pm
no rvp for the arseholes against you lot this weekend. they really miss the hardman in midfield. i really wonder if wenger is actually going to spend money in january.
 
 hard to believe, but toon finally have some selection issues. looks like mike owen is going to be on the bench against fulham, and butt gets the nod over guthrie with duff still keeping out zogs
 
 newcastle was clearly superior to villa midweek. hate to say it but we need barton at this point
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 10, 2008, 09:44:00 am
knew shit was fucked once cacapa walked out in the starting side. hes such a downgrade and tayls has been bad this year
 
 rooney's poor finishing might have cost you guys points this weekend
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 11, 2008, 12:44:00 pm
phil anschutz to buy the toon?
 http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2008/11/david-beckham-t.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2008/11/david-beckham-t.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 14, 2008, 01:32:00 pm
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 14
 
 7:40am Bolton vs Liverpool(Set)
 9:40am Man Utd vs Stoke City (set)
 10:00am Arsenal vs. Aston Villa (FSC)
 12:30pm West Brom vs. Chelsea (FSC)  
 4:30pm Newcastle vs. Wigan (FSC)
 6:45pm Fulham vs Tottenham (Set)
 
 SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 15
 
 12:00am Blackburn vs Sunderland (Set 1st Air)
 6:30am Bolton vs Liverpool (Set)
 8:25am Everton vs Middlesbrough (Set)
 11:00am Hull City vs. Manchester City (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 14, 2008, 01:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  rooney's poor finishing might have cost you guys points this weekend
At least a point.  If we had finished one of our glorious chances in the first 20 minutes, Arsenal would have folded....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 14, 2008, 01:38:00 pm
apparently there was a rumor going around the keano walked out on scumderland today. not sure if there is any truth there or not but its funny
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 14, 2008, 01:48:00 pm
I also heard that LandyCakes is heading to Bayern Munich.  I laughed.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 14, 2008, 01:59:00 pm
klinsmann loves him
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on November 16, 2008, 09:56:00 am
Fulham at 9th and on the rise!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 17, 2008, 11:31:00 am
barton out for 8 weeks
 
 oh dear
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 17, 2008, 01:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  barton out for 8 weeks
 
 oh dear
Are there any prison terms he can serve while he's out?  Catch up on community service?  Anything?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 17, 2008, 01:42:00 pm
lets just hope he doesnt get bored and go out on the lash
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 17, 2008, 02:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  lets just hope he doesnt get bored and go out on the lash
For the Toon's sake maybe, but for my own personal a/bemusement...I'll take him out on the lash personally!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 17, 2008, 02:37:00 pm
the sad thing is from the football side of things, the toon play so much better with him in the side. not to mention now we have a 34 year old playing next to a 21 year old and no natural cover
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 21, 2008, 01:28:00 pm
Saturday, November 22nd  
 
 10:00am Liverpool vs Fulham (Set)
 10:00am Chelsea vs Newcastle (FSC)
 10:00am Manchester City vs Arsenal (Set Xtra)
 12:30pm Aston Villa vs Manchester United (FSC)
 5:00pm Manchester City vs Arsenal (Set)
 8:00pm Stoke City vs West Brom (FSC)
     
         
 Sunday, November 23rd  
 
 8:25am Tottenham Hotspur vs Blackburn (Set)
 11:00am Sunderland vs West Ham (FSC)  
 
   
 Monday, November 24th
 
 3:00pm Wigan vs Everton (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 21, 2008, 01:46:00 pm
some good ones this weekend
 
 surprised there is not lunch game on saturday and that set decided go to with pool/us national team over shitty/francenal. not that it matters much
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 21, 2008, 02:16:00 pm
Setanta is limited this weekend by rugby coverage.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 21, 2008, 02:26:00 pm
oh yes of course
 
 but i would have thought that the games would be reversed, because if you just have setanta and not xtra, id much rather see shitty/arse. and i love watching sports at 8am
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 21, 2008, 02:40:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   i love watching sports at 8am
Move West.  I get up earlier on the weekends then I do during the week, and I'm excited about doing so.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 21, 2008, 02:57:00 pm
yeah, my buddy is coming down for the wizards game tonight and then we're going to watch some footie tomorrow. he's a toffee so i guess its good they dont play until monday. i did get him some chang beer though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 24, 2008, 10:15:00 am
bizarre weekend. none of the big 4 scored a goal. never thought toon would be 5th bottom, get a clean sheet at stamford bridge and still drop a spot, but yet here we are
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 25, 2008, 03:23:00 pm
Sorry. Since United and Villarreal have agreed a  draw for today's match, I've been derelict of my duties....
 
 UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
 
 TEUSDAY, NOVEMBER 25
 
 2:45pm Arsenal vs Dynamo Kiev (Set)
 2:45pm Man United vs. Villarreal (ESPN)
 5:00pm Bate Borisov vs. Real Madrid (ESPN Classic)
 5:45pm Fenerbahce vs Porto (Set)
 7:30pm Fiorentina vs Lyon (Set)
 
 
 WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 26
 
 2:45pm Liverpool vs Marseille (Set)
 2:45pm Bordeaux vs. Chelsea (ESPN)
 5:00pm Sporting Lisbon vs. Barca (ESPN Classic)
 5:45pm Inter Milan vs Panathinaikos (Set)
 7:30pm CFR vs Roma (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 25, 2008, 03:28:00 pm
i figured you were still bumming about man u's draw over the weekend
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 25, 2008, 03:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i figured you were still bumming about man u's draw over the weekend
No, but it was a seriously wasted opportunity.  United are missing a ton of scoring opportunities and I just can't figure it out.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 25, 2008, 03:39:00 pm
do we want to talk about villa for a minute? they could very well muscle the arseholes out of 4th. villa's weakness is depth and that certainly is not an arsenal strength
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 25, 2008, 03:52:00 pm
I really like thier squad - Gabby, the Young's, Milner - but without a few transfers, I don't see them holding on in the UEFA, top 4 and the domestic tourney's.  An early dismissal from the FA might be a blessing in disguise.
 
 How tired they are at the end of February for that late Feb-early April run will be huge.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 25, 2008, 04:09:00 pm
i actually think they may be one of the few sides buying in the window. i expect nearly everyone on west ham and portsmouth's roster to be available
 
 speaking of the window, i dont really see toon's sale going through before then. if ashley spends a little i think he could get some value and have a nice little side. supposedly they are deep into talks with an 'american' but i have no idea who
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 27, 2008, 02:11:00 pm
after yesterday's victory in Lisbon, 2-5, Barcelona looks really good this year. But now is the key moment, three games in a row against Sevilla, Valencia and Real Madrid. This will say how far we can go this year.
 
 Chelsea looks kind of bad and glad to see Mourinho struggling with Inter.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 02, 2008, 03:24:41 pm
inter is up 6 points in serie a, id hardly call that struggling. they did get shocked in the cl, but id bet on them getting through

smackie, what do you think of ronaldo's sending off?

another nil nil draw for the toon. as much as i appreciate the clean sheets, id like to see more of a killer instinct at a side like boro. december is going to tell a lot for this team
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 02, 2008, 04:29:05 pm
smackie, what do you think of ronaldo's sending off?

Bizarre.  It was so blatant that I think he mistakenly heard something (a whistle?) to make him do that.  If anything, he had a clear chance at a header for a goal, so it was wierd.  I don't think it was a lack of concentration on his part, but a simple mistake. 

That being said, I think the official had no choice but to send him off with him already being on a yellow.

The better question might be why not make a sub or two to put fresh legs out there at the 70 minute mark?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 02, 2008, 05:18:25 pm
i kind of thought the same thing being 1-0 up and with the attitude he showed the ref, it looked like chris was on his way out. in any event, please still destroy scumderland without him
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 02, 2008, 05:48:39 pm
That would require them doing what Arsenal did today and ignore the Carling Cup match tomorrow against somebody, I don't even know who it is.  And I hope thye do just that.

Let the kids have a go and if they win, great, but focus on the Premiership this week.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 02, 2008, 05:59:47 pm
what? man u does not require any rest to throttle the 90m debacle

or so i hope
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vassego on December 02, 2008, 07:07:34 pm
How did I miss this thread in the last six years I've been on this board...I may be logging in to the forum a lot more now.  Only if I can troll though...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 04, 2008, 10:18:30 am
keano out at sunderland: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=598902&sec=england&cc=5901
i know mankie loves the man, but hahahaha
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 04, 2008, 06:23:20 pm
i know mankie loves the man, but hahahaha

First time in my life I've seen the guy walk away from something. 

Oh.
Wait. 
Nevermind...

I still think he's bitchen, though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 05, 2008, 01:21:33 pm
Saturday, Dec 6

7:40am Fulham vs Man City (Set)
10:00am Arsenal vs Wigan (FSC)
10:00am Blackburn vs Liverpool (Set)
12:30pm Manchester United vs Sunderland (FSC)
5:00pm Bolton vs Chelsea (Set)
6:45pm Newcastle vs Stoke (Set)
8:00pm Hull City vs Middlesbrough (FSC)
 
 
Sunday, Dec 7

9:55am West Brom vs Portsmouth (Set)
11:00am Everton vs Aston Villa (FSC)

Monday, Dec 8

3:00pm West Ham vs Tottenham (Set)


 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 05, 2008, 01:25:23 pm
I should also point out that Hoffenheim is on Gol TV today vs Bayern Munich, and if you haven't seen Hoffenheim play yet, you're in for a real treat (they basically just go forward the whole time).  Use DirecTV online to set your DVR...

And QPR is playing Wolves on saturday on Setanta.  That would have been a huge game 20 years ago, and someday I hope to see them both back up in the Top Flight.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on December 05, 2008, 01:46:21 pm
they are top of the league too

have not seen them play, thanks for the heads up, i used the dtv online feature and everything. ive been trying to watch some nonenglish football to pick out teams to play with on fifa 09. i had been playing with schalke but after hearing that hitler supported them, i think i'm in the market for a new german team. shame, they are pretty good on the game, may have passed sevilla as my favorite nontoon team for video games

wolves look like they may be back next year
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on December 05, 2008, 06:13:35 pm
Shame Hoffenheim lost
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 07, 2008, 01:06:33 pm
"It's no wonder Keane walked out on this team - they're awful.  Absolutely awful!"

That was my favorite bit of announcing this weekend. Add that to the "There's only one Keano" chant followed by The Five Cantona's of Xmas in the first 5 minutes of the match and I managed to not throw up before stoppage time eased my stomach.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 07, 2008, 01:07:37 pm
Shame Hoffenheim lost

True that. Deserved a draw, without a doubt.

It's also too bad that I taped the match and saw your comment before I watched it.  It would have been a really exciting finish.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 08, 2008, 10:45:19 am
apparently ibi?ević lived in the u.s. for some of his teen years and even went to the university of st louis

thanks for the heads up, that was a nice way to start a friday night

coming home sunday and watching the draw against stoke made me...unstoked
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 08, 2008, 01:37:52 pm
coming home sunday and watching the draw against stoke made me...unstoked

I debated warning you, but then knew that I'd be pissed if you ruined a result for me. Sorry about that - shitty foul call for the free kick that led to the tying goal, but there was much more to that match than that free kick.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 08, 2008, 01:47:49 pm
kinnear's tactics are shit and toon dont have nearly enough central midfielders. both goals came from skilled passing. geremi cant run and he gets a lot of shit from toon supporters but he passes so much better than butt its ridiculous

at least kinnear got some good swears in before getting tossed

also i think i kind of hate bayern now. they seemed almost like bullies in that hoff match
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 08, 2008, 01:56:55 pm
also i think i kind of hate bayern now. they seemed almost like bullies in that hoff match

I don't care for Bayern for many more reasons than that, but if you were the coach of a longstanding Bundesliga power and some little upstart came your way with some momentum, wouldn't you employ the same tactics?  I certainly would.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 08, 2008, 02:01:01 pm
fair enough. i shouldnt have expected class from a team that employs luca toni, but i thought it was a bit much

hoffenheim actually looks like they have room for improvement too. a higher percentage of those one touch passes might connect after playing together more. lots of young players too

i might have to start dvring some german matches
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 08, 2008, 06:09:50 pm
This weekend, El Clasico. Barcelona Real Madrid. Watch it if you can, should be good. With Xavi, Messi, Etoo, Henry... we are playing extremely well this year. The only one we are missing is Iniesta who is now injured.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 08, 2008, 06:19:06 pm
thanks for the reminder. dvr set
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 09, 2008, 01:43:26 pm
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Tuesday, Dec 9

2:00pm PSV Eindhoven vs Liverpool (Set - KO 2:45pm)
2:45pm Chelsea vs CFR (ESPN2)
5:00pm Weder Bremen vs Inter (ESPN Classic)
5:45pm Panathinaikos vs Anorthosis (Set)
7:30pm Basel vs Sporting Lisbon (Set)
 
 
Wednesday, Dec 10

2:30pm FC Porto vs Arsenal (Set)
2:45pm Man United vs Aalborg (ESPN2)
5:00pm Real Madrid vs Zenit St Petersburg (ESPN Classic)
5:45pm Dynamo Kiev vs Fenerbahce (SET)
7:30pm Lyon vs Bayern Munich (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 09, 2008, 01:48:59 pm
which are the two that actually mean something
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 09, 2008, 02:02:31 pm
which are the two that actually mean something

Roma needs a win or draw vs Bordouex (oddly not on TV)
Panathinaikos vs Anothorsis (winner goes on, draw puts Panathinaikos through)
Chelsea needs to win, although a draw with other consequences puts them through.

The rest of the who finishes first and who plays in UEFA Cup would take me an hour figure out, so I won't bother.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 09, 2008, 03:17:17 pm
first and second doesnt mean much in my opinion

i cant see roma losing at home to bordeaux

i usually only get interested in the knockout round
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 09, 2008, 04:09:35 pm
I'm actually looking forward to the Panathinaikos vs Anorthosis match because it's Greeks vs Cypriots and with any luck the Cypriot team will have some Turks on it.  I'm always interested in the Foreign Policy angle...that being said, if the football sucks, I will likely fast forward 15 minutes in and just watch the goals and last 10 minutes if it's still close.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Ulsterfry on December 09, 2008, 10:05:06 pm
I love the Foreign Policy aspect of Footy, too. Have you read the books "How Soccer explains the world" or Soccer against the Enemy"? Both are excellent books about how politics and policy effect football. It also delves into the hooligan element of the sport--which I also find interesting.

If you get the chance check those two books out. They are both well written and are pretty quick reads.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 09, 2008, 10:47:58 pm
I love the Foreign Policy aspect of Footy, too. Have you read the books "How Soccer explains the world" or Soccer against the Enemy"? Both are excellent books about how politics and policy effect football. It also delves into the hooligan element of the sport--which I also find interesting.

If you get the chance check those two books out. They are both well written and are pretty quick reads.

another good one that I read recently is "The Neurotic Genius of Dutch Football" - at times its a little forced but plenty of good stuff in there for a fan, and for fans of Irish football the epilogue has a great piece on the Dutch losing out to the Irish in 2002 qualifying

welcome to the board Ulsterfry......hope theres no pork in your Ulster fry this week  :P
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 10, 2008, 09:59:24 am
ulster fry doesnt have the black pudding, right?

thats the best part
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Post by: brennser on December 10, 2008, 12:55:17 pm
ulster fry doesnt have the black pudding, right?

thats the best part

I think its something to do with the presense or absence of soda farls
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 10, 2008, 01:00:28 pm
you can farl whoever you want, but less pork = less good
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 10, 2008, 01:50:00 pm
IHave you read the books "How Soccer explains the world" or Soccer against the Enemy"?

 It also delves into the hooligan element of the sport--which I also find interesting.


Back before this board ahd a meltdown, I posted reviews of both of those books.  I read them at least once every couple years (usually in the off-season of non World Cup or Euro tournaments).

And if you are interested in the hooliganism, I'm sure you've read "Among the Thugs" - but if you haven't, you're in for a treat.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Ulsterfry on December 10, 2008, 10:17:59 pm
Just so there's no confusion...there's nothing good in an Ulsterfry. It contains both pork and black pudding. But it's a great way to start your day!!! Nothing better!

Thanks for reminding me about the Genius of Dutch football book. I just added it to my Christmas list. I've heard from several people that it was a good book. Hopefully Santa will bring it this year!

Of course I've read Among the Thugs. Brillant book. I loved the realism of it. I also enjoyed reading Hoolifan--30 years of hurt" as well as "Everywhere we go--behind the Matchday Madness." Both books are good inside looks at hooliganism. But I must say Hoolifan is my favorite of the two.

Has anyone read either "Football Hooliganism-a century of passion and fashion" or "Football Hooliganism--Knowing the Score (Explorations in Anthropology)."  Both of these books have been recommended to me but I haven't gotten around to reading them yet. They sound good.

I'm trying to get to London for the Chelsea/Bolton match in April. I think I'll be in town for it and a friend has promised me two tickets. My first time at Stanford Bridge.....looking forward to it. Got my gear all picked out.  ;D

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 10, 2008, 11:46:29 pm
Got my gear all picked out.  ;D

I'd go with this:

(http://footballkitsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/bolton-away-07-08.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Ulsterfry on December 11, 2008, 12:22:48 am
Good choice but I think I'll go with something a little more BLUE! as the match is at the Bridge and I don't want to get my ass kicked.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 11, 2008, 10:55:48 am
if black pudding is included, than its all good

i really hope youre a chelski supporter, thats kind of a zzzzzzz match
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Ulsterfry on December 11, 2008, 11:22:53 am
No kidding it's a zzzzz match. I think that's exactly why my friend can get tickets. Who wants to sit in the cold and rain to watch Bolton????? I'm guessing the Bolton fans won't turn out for that one. But it is a match nonetheless and I'm ready for a little Prem fun! I will route for Chelsea--it's a one off thing.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 12, 2008, 02:16:07 pm
I'm in the middle of a speaking tour right now and wont be able to post this weekends schedule. Sorry.

United has the noon match on Saturday vs Tottenham.  That's all I know.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 12, 2008, 03:50:23 pm
i usually set my dvr on mondays during fff

also, hoffenheim are on gol again (against schalke) sunday at 11 est i believe, and the already mentioned el classico on saturday. so many matches, so little time
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 15, 2008, 10:33:44 am
We had more problems than anticipated, but at the end we won and we are 12 points ahead of them. they played very defensively and had a couple of chances, but I like Barcelona this year, we believe in our chances as opposed to last year when we played against Manchester United and the team gave the impression that it knew it could not score a goal in the two games.

Let's see how the champions league draw goes. there are good teams that finished second in their groups, Inter, Arsenal, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Lyon, Atletico...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 15, 2008, 11:42:27 am
seemed like real made a concerted effort to foul messi hard

toon's win against pompey was really needed. it makes no sense to sell mike in jan even if he walks on a free, so they probably punt him to man shitty or someone else in a similar position in the table

i thought adams's decisions in the second half were shocking as was defoe's finishing
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 15, 2008, 03:22:43 pm
also, hoffenheim are on gol again (against schalke) sunday at 11 est i believe,

I love the embrace of "The Hoff" as I have started referring to them:


Sunday December 14 2008 The Observer

German village heroes (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/dec/14/bundesliga-football-hoffenheim)

European football has never seen anything like it - a village team on course for the Champions League. Meet the men behind the amazing story of TSG 1899 Hoffenheim
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 15, 2008, 03:35:36 pm
i didnt watch it, and i forgot to check if my dvr caught it. if so, i hope to watch it tonight

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 15, 2008, 03:40:59 pm
i didnt watch it, and i forgot to check if my dvr caught it. if so, i hope to watch it tonight

You're not going to like this, but last night as I was deciding what to watch as I was going to sleep, I decided to watch The Hoff instead of my usual Newcastle match to particiapte in the weekly Newcastle conversation. 

While you watch The Hoff, I'll be watching The Toon.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 15, 2008, 03:53:23 pm
i hope i didnt give away too much above (sometimes brevity is good)

whats going on with man u? they surely should have converted one of those chances. i was hoping theyd be softened up for their visit to st james park this weekend

i'm going to be busy up until boxing day, but have nothing to do the next whole week. my plan is to watch entirely too much footie oh and maybe vacuum
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 15, 2008, 04:48:37 pm
i hope i didnt give away too much above (sometimes brevity is good)

whats going on with man u? they surely should have converted one of those chances. i was hoping theyd be softened up for their visit to st james park this weekend

24 hour rule in effect.  Anything over 24 hours is game.  I saw yesterdays results last night.

I think United should feel lucky that everyone else is tying as well, or their failure to score might be more apparent.  They have been dominating games, but just can't find the net.  A lot of it comes from really poor crosses and corners - without Giggs playing full matches, they haven't really found someone who can deliver a quality corner (Rooney was bad last week and Park was worse this week).  You can't have Ronaldo do it because he's so good in the air.  That needs to be addressed and soon.

As for the crosses, it seems as though teams have decided to stop Ronaldo's advance, let Evra and "Right Back De Silva" have a good run down the sideline for a cross and collapse on the middle of the box.  That's why the possession is so high for United, but the goals are so few.  The cross comes in, it gets headed away and cleared to mid field, and we repeat the process.  Rooney and Tevez aren't the biggest guys in the world and Berbatov has yet to really figure out how to play with these guys.  Hopefully that will change. 

The last two matches United made an adjustment for this and started trying to drive the ball down the middle of the defense.  But since the middle was already collapsed, it was like forcing a square peg through a round hole.  Hoepfully in the future they will start down the middle, then send it outside to maybe extend the defense and decide to cross it in or dribble it back in.  The lack of a attacking from Evra and Right Back de Silva needs to change - instead of crossing, they need to start making runs at the net.     

Add that to blatant non-attacking by the other side (Tottenham excluded) giving United no opportunities for counter attack, and you're left with a very frustrated squad.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 15, 2008, 08:45:11 pm
boo my dvr didnt catch it. i think i recorded the wrong one, but i will grab it tuesday. bummer
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 16, 2008, 06:19:00 pm
smackie, i have been meaning to ask: do you care about the club world cup
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 16, 2008, 06:47:56 pm
smackie, i have been meaning to ask: do you care about the club world cup

Not really, especially without a Brazilian team or Boca Juniors.  I did watch Pachuca last year and they were good, but I would much rather have the other teams for competition sake or even a US team for shit's and giggles.  I know nothing about Quito.  Nonetheless, I'll record it and watch it, but it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation for United. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 16, 2008, 08:28:59 pm
Not only is Ronaldo good in the air he's also crap at crossing....I told you they'd have a hard time replacing Becks and they have yet to just that. Berbatov is a lazy slug in my opinion and not a United type blue collar, hard working, grinding player, he's more a Chelski prima donna so it may take a while for Fergie to 'educate' him. Tevez is being a typical latin cry baby because he's not getting to play every game. If he could get his head straight him and Rooney running straight at the defense would be like letting two pit-bulls loose in a grooming parlour.

I think United are playing the most attractive football right now, but as Arse'nil prove time and time again that does not guarantee silverware. The wheels seems to be falling off the Stamford Bridge bandwagon and the rich russian losing interest seeing as he's closed his checkbook for the time being.

I think it will still be very close at the end of the season but I think United have the experience and cajones to keep the crown.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 16, 2008, 08:42:59 pm
I don't know who this "Frank Gallagher" character is, but he is wise.  I think Mankie would love him!

I have seen an improvement in Berbatov since day one, but yes, he has a long way to go before he hustles like the rest of the squad for the full 90 minutes.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2008, 02:02:40 pm
google tells me this is frank:
(http://www.thestage.co.uk/images/pics/11661.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 17, 2008, 02:28:20 pm
google tells me this is frank:
(http://aarkangel.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/1010489269a3242812687b105078953l.jpg)

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2008, 09:50:38 pm
Yep...that's Frank.

Classic show, but you may have to be a manc to get the humour if you know what I mean.

Big Sam at Ewood....I think that's a good appointment actually. Long ball and dirty bastards...we haven't had that in the premiership since, well, big Sam was at Bolton. The pansies at St. Jame's (Alan Smith being the exception) were incapable of those tactics.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 18, 2008, 09:51:39 am
i agree that newcastle united were too highly skilled and classy for such barbarism
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 18, 2008, 09:26:28 pm
i agree that newcastle united were too highly skilled and classy for such barbarism

Highly skilled and classy - I wouldn't associate either of those with Toon. "useless and tacky" would be more accurate.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 19, 2008, 08:29:49 am
mostly the players bought by fat sam. especially alan smith
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 19, 2008, 08:32:16 am
not bad at all.

to be played 24/25 February and 10/11 March

Chelsea FC (ENG) v Juventus (ITA)
 
Villarreal CF (ESP) v Panathinaikos FC (GRE)

Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR) v FC Bayern Mnchen (GER)
 
Club Atltico de Madrid (ESP) v FC Porto (POR)
 
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) v FC Barcelona (ESP)
 
Real Madrid CF (ESP) v Liverpool FC (ENG)
 
Arsenal FC (ENG) v AS Roma (ITA)

FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) v Manchester United FC (ENG)

Predictions? Juve, Villarreal, Bayern Munich, Atletico Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man. United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 19, 2008, 01:14:13 pm
not bad at all.

Not bad for you, but I'm not too excited about Inter.

Villarreal draws Paranthanikos.  Ridiculous.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 19, 2008, 01:50:21 pm
By not bad I meant some of the draws, especially the ones between english and italian teams. as for Barcelona, it won't be easy, the first thing to do is not to assume that we are in the last 8.

Inter, the main danger is Mourinho trying to destabilize the games. he is a "genious" at that, personally I think he should not be allowed to coach a team for a number of years after what he said regarding the referee when Barcelona beat Chelsea three years ago.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 19, 2008, 03:32:30 pm
From Smackie, with love....

Saturday, Dec 20

9:30am Hull vs Sunderland (Set)
10:00am Bolton vs Portsmouth (FSC) 
12:30am West Ham vs Aston Villa (FSC) 
5:00pm Fulham vs Middlesbrough (Set)
8:00pm Blackburn vs Stoke City (FSC) 

 
Sunday, Dec 21

5:30am FIFA Club Cup - LDU Quito vs Man Utd (FSC) 
8:25am West Brom vs Man City (Set)
11:00am Arsenal vs Liverpool (FSC) 
1:00pm  La Liga - Villareal vs Barcelona (gol)
5:00pm Newcastle vs Tottenham (FSC)
 

Friday, Dec 26

7:40am Stoke vs Man Utd (Set)
8:00am Chelsea vs West Brom (FSC)
9:55am Liverpool vs Bolton (Set)
10:00am Manchester City  Hull City (FSC)
12:00pm Aston Villa vs Arsenal (FSC) 
12:15pm Tottenham vs Fulham (Set)
2:30pm Portsmouth vs West Ham (FSC) 
5:00pm Sunderland vs Blackburn (Set)

 
Sunday, Dec 28

6:55am Newcastle vs Liverpool (Set)
8:55am Arsenal vs Portsmouth (Set)
9:00am Fulham vs Chelsea (FSC)
11:00am Blackburn vs Manchester City (FSC) 
1:30pm Everton vs Sunderland (FSC) 
3:20pm West Ham vs Stoke (Set)
5:00pm West Brom vs Tottenham (FSC) 
5:00pm Bolton vs Wigan (Set)


Monday, dec 29

2:00pm Man Utd vs Middlesbrough (Set - KO 3pm)

Sadly, The Hoff are off.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 19, 2008, 03:42:32 pm
awesome, thanks for sprinkling in a little la liga and hoff update

i think toon/wigan is tape delayed on boxing day until midnight. so jacked, i think i have my brother in law talked into the pub for footie that day. hes a yid though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 19, 2008, 03:49:18 pm
i think toon/wigan is tape delayed on boxing day until midnight. so jacked, i think i have my brother in law talked into the pub for footie that day. hes a yid though

You are correct.  I didn't think to check the 27th....


12:00am Wigan vs Newcastle (Set)
 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 19, 2008, 03:52:54 pm
setanta loves to piss me off

good news is i can drink murphy's instead of broons
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 21, 2008, 09:32:09 am
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45317000/jpg/_45317552_winners_getty416.jpg)

Ooooh look - A competition for club teams that the winner can be truly crowned "WORLD CHAMPIONS" because there's teams from all over the world involved...

Superbowl world champions my arse!!!! Not even champions of north america.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 22, 2008, 09:52:00 am
Yeah, great. At what cost?  Vidic for both legs against Inter in the real tournament that matters that doean't have world in its name.

To me that was like winning the Carling at the expense of the FA, only like X5.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 22, 2008, 11:16:49 am
congrats to man u. i like the idea of an english team being champions of the world

anyway i didnt watch a second of the competition, just an awkward time of the year and a terrible time of the day to watch it in the states

good win for the toon this weekend. nice to see the younger players coming along and contributing to wins
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 22, 2008, 03:06:21 pm
Somehow in my schedule I also missed today's Everton vs Chelsea match today at 3:00.

Good win for the Toon - well deserved.  Although Owen did you know favor by committing himself to the Toon through the end of the year.  I'm sure you'd rather get soemthing for him in January than watch him walk for free in the summer.   That's a "thanks, but no thanks" moment if I've ever seen one.  Then again, you're only 4 points clear of relegation...

The more I think about the tourney this weekend, the more pissed I get about it.  Johnny Evans or John O'Shea in the middle with Rio against Inter at Inter.  eesshh.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 22, 2008, 03:37:56 pm
actually i think he's trying to save face because there isnt much interest. he's only worth spending (say) 5m if your team is in the cl or need a striker to break into the top 4. man u and arsenal cant be interested, chelski have already said they arent buying. that leaves villa and pool and i really cant see villa paying owen 110k or whatever he wants a week. liverpool maybe, but they have a whole credit crunch thing going on too

maybe shitty would pay him, but i think they have bigger fish to fry. if owen's real goal is to impress capello and make money i dont know that he's going to have a better chance than at newcastle. i imagine he just wants out, but is so slimy he wont say it

oh and yeah getting some money would be nice, but just his wages coming off is like spending 10m plus 40k on a replacement. better than going down
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 22, 2008, 10:07:28 pm
Yeah, great. At what cost?  Vidic for both legs against Inter in the real tournament that matters that doean't have world in its name.

To me that was like winning the Carling at the expense of the FA, only like X5.

O'Shea usually comes through in the big games for some reason...not up to much against the Fulhams, Wigans, Newcastles  ;)  and the like, but the big guns he holds his own.

As Fergie said, "I hope we have to compete in this competition again next year"!!!  In other words, if you don't want to go then don't become champions of Europe.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 23, 2008, 09:50:36 am
even vidic/rio couldnt save you from drawing with newcastle at home this year  :P
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 23, 2008, 01:57:17 pm
Yeah, great. At what cost?  Vidic for both legs against Inter in the real tournament that matters that doean't have world in its name.

To me that was like winning the Carling at the expense of the FA, only like X5.

Typical English footballing arrogance... We've seen how helpful this attitude is with the World Cup.. oh wait why play that one when you got the Eurocup (if only England could qualify..maybe they are saving their players for.......)!

It is so insulting to fans who root for teams in other parts of the world..we do exist you know??? There are good teams outside of Europe you know??? Teams that manage to play well without spending hundreds of millions of dollars..

I happen to be a huge Boca Juniors fan.. with 1/500th the payroll and all our players being constantly taken from us (some literally stolen when they are young teenagers) we still manage to beat the Champions league  winner and yet the many European fans treat it like its a second rate competition..Well guess what? Its not because the the winner of the Libertadores Cup plays the winner of the Champions League.

Only people with a loser mentality would think that winning the World Club Cup or the Intercontinental Cup is not worth putting in your starters for.......
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 23, 2008, 02:19:03 pm
Clearly you missed the compliment I paid to Boca and the Brazilian squads (http://www.930.com/forum/index.php?topic=2922.msg268836#msg268836) when discussing my lack of enthusiasm for the Club World Cup. 

But seriously, I'm supposed to be excited about winning a tournament that only included Quito, Pachuca, Gamba Osaka, Al-Ahly, Waitakere United, Adelaide United?

After winning a Tournament that fielded Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Inter Milan, AC Milan, Juve, a couple of pussy French teams, some nasty Turkish teams, nobody likes travelling to Greece for a match, the Dutch used to be able to surprise you, the Protuguese are always good for recruiting, and some "have you ever been to Russia in the Winter?" teams, forgive me if I'm a little less than excited about it.

Had Boca been there, I would have been more excited, but instead United are out one of their stellar center backs for a 2 leg draw with Jose Mourinho's Inter Milan squad.  And yes, I would rather win the Champions League again this year than the Club World Cup from last year.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 23, 2008, 02:28:09 pm
many European fans treat it like its a second rate competition..Well guess what? Its not because the the winner of the Libertadores Cup plays the winner of the Champions League.

This is a good point.  Make a Tournament of the Top 4 from the Libertadores Cup and the Top 4 from the Champions League, and you've got yourself one helluva tournament that I'll get excited about. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 23, 2008, 03:04:53 pm
i really like boca actually. i was going to follow south american club footie this summer (nonwc/euro) and had kinda picked them as my team

i think my issue is its only 2 games and even at 2 games it really disrupts the fixtures for the european team

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 23, 2008, 04:53:14 pm
Talking about Boca Juniors. Today they play the final game of the Apertura tournament against Tigre. Obviously I am with Tigre, a really small team.

Actually I really like Argentinean football, my second team has always been Independiente de Avellaneda. Rey de Copas.

As for these world cup type tournaments played in Japan, I am sorry but European teams do not play with the same motivation as the south american ones. December is a key month for european teams, an injury and you may be out for the key games in your tournament and in the champions league. On the other side, for the south american players playing in Boca, Liga de Quito, Sao Paulo, Olimpia, Once Caldas... it is the opportunity to make an impact amongst coaches in Europe. All my admiration for South American teams, though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 23, 2008, 08:52:28 pm
How fitting to have this thread again: Boca Juniors champions once again..

Since about 1997 I don't think there is any soccer team more succesfull

I'm glad to see there's some respect for Boca..

I still wish people who root for european teams took the intercontinental cup more seirously.. they say the players don't but thats cause the fans don't care!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 24, 2008, 08:52:14 am
Let's see when Independiente wins a tournament again, i hope in the clausura. I need to see them in the Libertadores, difficult next year, but want to see them where they belong!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 01, 2009, 07:09:46 pm
FA Cup - 3RD Round

Friday, Jan 2

3:00pm Tottenham vs Wigan (SET)


Saturday, Jan 3

10:00am Forest Green Rovers vs Derby County (FSC)
10:00am Macclesfield Town vs Everton (SET)
12:00pm Preston North End  vs Liverpool (FSC)
12:15pm Hull vs Newcastle (SET)

Sunday, Jan 4

8:00am Southampton vs Man Utd (SET)
8:30am Gillingham vs Aston Villa (FSC)


CARLING CUP SEMI - First Leg

Tuesday, Jan 6

3:00pm Tottenham vs Burnley (SET)

Wednesday, Jan 7

3:00pm Derby County vs Man Utd (SET)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 05, 2009, 12:53:49 pm
back from holiday break

pretty much all i did for the past week was watch sports, and footie was a large part of it. i was really drunk when i watched the toon/wigan match so that was not much fun. ditto the thrashing they took against liverpool

should have gone through against hull is all i can say. mike has looked uninspired since he announced that he would continue to bless us with his services for the remainder of the year. rumors are going around that oba's injury may require surgury as well

the given rumors dont surprise me much. i thought they might have sold him last summer. really need a holding midfielder though. nicky butt has been shocking
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 05, 2009, 02:08:30 pm
the given rumors dont surprise me much. i thought they might have sold him last summer. really need a holding midfielder though. nicky butt has been shocking

If he was three inches taller, ok maybe 5 inches taller, he'd be the best goal keeper in the world.  There is no way he is 6'1...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 05, 2009, 02:32:13 pm
he's great. however, the only position we have genuine depth is gk. harper is a seasoned vetern and we have forster and krul who are supposed to be up and comers. i see the logic, and if newcastle were say 8 points clear rather than 2 i'd say do it. might still say do it if they can get involved in the city bidding war, or have juve overspend their hypothetical buffon windfall

as long as they actually buy more players though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 06, 2009, 05:33:12 pm
I've been trying to prepare myself for this, but I can't.  I just can't....

Giggs Drops Hint of Retirement (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=607263&sec=england&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 06, 2009, 05:43:39 pm
its been coming. great player

i like how 'arry doesnt waste any time overspending once he lands at spurs. 15m for defoe, when they sold him for half that last year? awesome
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on January 06, 2009, 05:48:23 pm
Today there was a classic game in Spain. Atletico Madrid Barcelona in the Spanish Cup, usually lots of goals and lots of incidents. Today, it was not different, 1-3 (anything can happen on the return leg in Barcelona, I think in 1997 Atletico was 0-3 and 1-4 and Barcelona ended up winning 5-4 at the end of the game).

Today, hat trick by Messi, apparently one great goal. I think this guy is now by far the best player in the world.

Sad for Giggs, great player!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 06, 2009, 06:28:42 pm
almost forgot, smackie (and mankie if hes around) whats your take on the carlos tevez situation
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 06, 2009, 07:01:34 pm
almost forgot, smackie (and mankie if hes around) whats your take on the carlos tevez situation

I trust Kia Joorabchian  about as much as I trust Scott Boras.  I think the real problem is the fee paid to West Ham has never actually been decided (correct me if I'm wrong, but it was out on appeal last I heard), so United are faced with the Transfer Fee and a new deal, plus dealing with Joorabchian.  Let him go if he wants to be third in La Liga, but if I were Tevez, I'd be directing my anger at Joorabchian.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on January 06, 2009, 09:57:15 pm
Messi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejii6KDs5t0
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on January 09, 2009, 11:45:02 am
I see that there is Manchester United - Chelsea this Sunday and that Scolari's job may be under risk?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 09, 2009, 01:04:55 pm
Geez, at least let me get in the office...

Saturday, January 10

7:40am Aston Villa vs West Brom (Set)
10:0am Arsenal vs Bolton (Set)
10:00am Newcastle vs West Ham (FSC) 
12:30pm Stoke City vs Liverpool (FSC) 
5:00pm Portsmouth vs Man City (Set) (also live at 10am on Setanta Xtra)

6:45pm Everton vs Hull (Set)
8:00pm Middlesbrough vs Sunderland  (FSC)


Sunday, January 11

8:25am Wigan vs Tottenham (Set)
11:00am Manchester United vs Chelsea (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2009, 01:38:46 pm
hey barca, i have head that scolari is on the hot seat too. to be honest chelski should be running away with it, and my understanding is that there is some distrust of his lack of big time club managing experience. of course injuries are a big part of their season, and they're still in the thick of the league and cl. on the other hand his big buy was deco and he's been a flop. i think they really miss essien at the end of the day
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2009, 04:24:58 pm
(http://www.nufcblog.com/wp-content/uploads/andy-carroll-hair.gif)
jesus, son
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 09, 2009, 05:53:50 pm
Me thinks he took a vacation in the Caribbean over the holidays...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2009, 08:05:24 pm
didnt have it against hull last week
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 09, 2009, 08:17:30 pm
didnt have it against hull last week

"Game" or the hair style?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2009, 08:19:09 pm
hairstyle. he was ok in the first half, so he had like 35% 'game'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2009, 01:56:26 pm
I bet you're not minding the hairstyle now....

In other news, my Sunday is starting out brilliantly.  Giggs looks 30 again...

(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/domr/vidicheader412.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2009, 02:28:36 pm
BTW - FSC messed up the brilliant play of the game.  What the replay showed as maybe the most retarded play we've seen in a long time didn't tell the whole story.  When Giggs grabbed the corner, started dribbling towards the goal and delivered the cross that led to a goal that was called back, that's not the whole story.  If you, like me were wondering why Giggs wasn't carded and the ball was turned over to Chelsea...

Turns out Rooney set the ball on the corner and ever so slightly kicked it a few yards towards Giggs who was running over to take the corner.  Rooney non-chalantly walked away until Giggsy grabbed it, spun around and delivered the cross that led to the goal that should have counted had either official seen what happened.  It was well within the rules, and in my eyes, brilliant.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on January 11, 2009, 08:11:41 pm
Here in South America, I watched the game on Fox sports Latin America and the live and replay images gave the impression that Manchester United didnt start the play properly from the corner. However, seeing Rooneys complaints, it seemed that there was something strange in the referees call.

Still, Chelsea was awful. As much as I dislike Mourinho (who was in the stadium watching the game), this guy made this team a good team, you would be scared of the defense with Carvalho, Terry, midfield with Lampard, Makelele, Cole, attack with Drogba... but these days they seem beatable by any team. He messed up last year with Sevchenko and a disappointing Ballack, but now with Scolari they look awful.

as for tevez, i have never been impressed, sell him to Real Madrid.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 12, 2009, 11:16:36 am
well...every team needs a dodgy hair player. id rather it be carroll than alan smith

the corner really did confuse me. i was laughing at the result though. the side that man u put out did not impress me, but man did they prove me wrong. i dont think scolari knows what he's doing
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 12, 2009, 01:19:09 pm
the corner really did confuse me. i was laughing at the result though. the side that man u put out did not impress me, but man did they prove me wrong. i dont think scolari knows what he's doing

What, the thought of Giggs, Fletcher and Park in the midifield with Johnny Evans and Gary Neville on the back line didn't have you shaking in your boots?  Me neither, to be honest.  How Carrick sits that one out is beyond me...

That being said, Park is an amazing workhorse (his yellow was BS - if you card Park for the dive how did you not card Ballack for his dive in the box), Giggs looked as good as I've seen him in recent years and Johnny Evans was surprisingly strong.  That being said, you guys are both right: as good as United played, that result was much more about Chelsea looking in poor form.  I thought the talk of Scolari was premature, but now I'm starting to agree. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 12, 2009, 01:39:48 pm
yeah, carrick's ommission was confusing, but whats happened to anderson and nani? i kind of liked that one of them would get time last year in nearly every match, but i dont think ive seen either on the pitch in the half dozen or so man u matches ive watched this year. i never rated park highly, but hes done well each time ive seen him play this year
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 13, 2009, 12:11:20 pm
hey smackie

is the toon/hull replay not on tv? i cant find it  :'(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 13, 2009, 01:01:11 pm
hey smackie

is the toon/hull replay not on tv? i cant find it  :'(

It is not:

Tuesday, Jan 13

3:00pm FA Cup Bristol City vs Portsmouth (Set)


Wed,  Jan. 14

3:00pm Premiership Man Utd vs Wigan (Set)
3:00pm  FA Cup Southend United vs Chelsea (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 13, 2009, 01:17:57 pm
booo
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2009, 05:47:47 pm
guess i should be glad. messageboards claim owen missed half a dozen easy chances

oh and zogs apparently is telling lyon to come get him  ::)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 15, 2009, 03:08:58 pm
Well, the write up about the match refelcted your thoughts.  This is going to be a much longer season then you or I imagined.

United weren't much better after Rooney went off.  Ronaldo is a bit of a waste without Rooney out there running off the ball.  At this point I'd take the 100 Million Euros and move on.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 15, 2009, 03:17:18 pm
Saturday, January 17

10:00am Bolton vs Man Utd (set)
10:00am Chelsea vs Stoke City (FSC) 
10:00am Blackburn vs Newcastle (Set XTRA - DirectTV only)
12:30pm Hull City vs Arsenal (FSC) 
5:00pm Blackburn vs Newcastle (Set)
6:45pm Sunderland vs Aston Villa (Set)
8:00pm Manchester City vs Wigan (FSC)
 

Sunday, January 18

8:25am West Ham vs Fulham (Set)
11:00am Tottenham vs Portsmouth (FSC) 

 
Monday, January 19

3:00pm Liverpool vs Everton (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 16, 2009, 11:21:46 am
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=609950&sec=europe&cc=5901
nooooooooo

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 16, 2009, 02:37:43 pm
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=609950&sec=europe&cc=5901
nooooooooo

I know - I saw that.  I couldn't wait to pick them in the Streak for the Cash.  Now I think I'll pass.

Total bummer.

I also hear the Kaka deal is done.  Amazing if true.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 17, 2009, 09:30:45 pm
Okay people, nothing to see here, move along. now please...the premiership race is over as of today so you can all go home...!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 17, 2009, 09:35:08 pm
  I thought the talk of Scolari was premature, but now I'm starting to agree. 

Please - before this season even started....... remind me again who said Dr. Phil wasn't going to do anything with Chelski...like he didn't do anything with Portugal. My mum would've won a world cup medal as manager of Brasil so that's nothing great on his resume.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 19, 2009, 02:19:26 pm
seems as though mike decided to bless us with his services for the rest of the season...and promptly stop scoring. thanks for that mike

pen was dodgy, but the team absolutely quit afterwards. toon are shocking, and the only think that can stave off relegation is how shocking the whole second half of the table is
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 20, 2009, 03:23:36 pm
CARLING CUP SEMIS -Second Leg

Tuesday, January 20

2:55pm Man Utd vs Derby (Set)


Wednesday, January 21

2:40pm Burnley vs Tottenham (Set)


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 20, 2009, 03:58:44 pm
i took the under for man u/derby in the streak

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 20, 2009, 04:01:20 pm
i took the under for man u/derby in the streak

Me too.  Then I saw the back four of Rafeal, O'Shea, Neville and Evans.  How can Derby not score with that back four?  That means United will have to score 3 to move on...ugh.  Here's to hoping they pitch a shutout.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 20, 2009, 06:31:45 pm
I knew Derby would score.  Dammit - I wish I had checked the lineup in time.  Oh well, my streak was only at 1 anyway.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 20, 2009, 06:35:36 pm
3 losses in a row. though i had it last night with kobe outscoring poor lil brony bron too  :-[
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 21, 2009, 01:21:45 pm
AIG ending sponsorship of Manchester United (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=611655&sec=world&cc=5901)

Thankfully.  I can't tell you how much shit I get for wearing the AIG logo on nearly everything I own.  It used to be good before the financial collapse - everybody wanted to work for them, but since the collapse, I take nothing but shit (and it has nothing to do with soccer).  Don't folks realize what a sponsor is?  Of course not - they would have to take the time to understand AIG's roll in the crisis rather than just listening to the news about how bad AIG is without bothering to find out why or how...

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 21, 2009, 02:08:04 pm
yeah, northern rock isnt too popular a company in england either. all of my toon shirts are vintage, and have the broon ale logo

speaking of shirts, do you get players on the back? if so, who do you have
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 21, 2009, 02:32:23 pm
speaking of shirts, do you get players on the back? if so, who do you have

I have a huge collection of soccer jerseys, mostly international.  The majority of my United kits have players on the back (I have the red 58 throwback with Rooney, an early 2000's Champs League Blue kit with Beckham on it and a red Solksjaer kit from 1999).  I have the black kit from a few years ago with no name on it and a white kit from years ago with no name on it.  I'm tempted to get this years white kit with Giggs on it if he does hang them up this year, but haven't decided.

I have both a blue and a white Tottenham kit with Keane on them that I have not worn since he transferred to Liverpool.  Kasey Keller tried to autograph the white one when Spurs were in DC in 2002/3 but I denied him.  His face was priceless.

I also have an old QPR kit (no name), a Wolves kit (no name), a Chelsea kit from the mid-nineties and an old California Surf jersey that doesn't even come close to fitting me.  I also purchased a game worn DC United jersey at an auction before I left DC.

My international kits are thus (off the top of my head):

Ghana 2006 (no name)
Belgium 2004 with Kompany
Holland 2004 with Van Nistelrooy
About 5 England kits, mostly with no name, but a long sleeve white kit with Beckham on it.
3-4 Ireland kits from various years with no name on them.
Peru 2006
Costa Rica 2004

That's all I can remember right now, but I'm sure I've forgotten about a half dozen (without having to tell you, Smackette is not happy about my constantly growing collection of sports jerseys).  The majority of my AIG problems, however, come from all the sweatshirts/training gear/jackets that I own that have the logo on them.
   
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 21, 2009, 02:40:31 pm
awesome. i have a shearer away jersey and a blank home one. i also have an ireland training jersey that my mom got me in dublin a few years back. during my trip i was searching for a cork city shirt but couldnt find one. i was actually thinking of getting a jonas argentina or oba nigeria shirt, but have not as yet. i have a bunch of jerseys from other sports too, which thrills my wife. luckily my mom just buys me a bunch of steelers gear every christmas and birthday so at least i'm not spending my own money
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 21, 2009, 03:13:59 pm
That's funny.  Smackette has a Cork City shirt from some old boyfriend of hers - it's pretty bitchen. 

I purchase/trade for most of my kits, but the rest of the attire is stuff folks get me as gifts.  You pretty much can't go wrong with Man U/Angels/Ducks/Steelers gear for me.

For Christmas this year I got a Sexy Rexy Grossman jersey that is INCREDIBLE.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 21, 2009, 03:38:24 pm
heh, i was all ready to finally bite the bullet and get a fully official martins shirt after the summer window closed, then everything fell apart
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 21, 2009, 05:27:53 pm
Last nights text conversation...

Venerable: Burnley has no shot against Spurs, right?

Smack: It's the second leg, Tottenham just can't lose by more than 2 to move on and they have United in the FA Cup this weekend.  It seems to me either Burnley (to win or draw) or stay away.  Mind you, I've been terrible picking soccer in The Streak.

No reply...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 21, 2009, 05:31:24 pm
i picked spurs precoffee this morning, completely forgetting that it was a second leg, after completely forgetting that the man u match yesterday was a second leg too

i was all set to go out on a limb and pick the wiz to win on the road too. watch them do it
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 21, 2009, 05:41:41 pm
i was all set to go out on a limb and pick the wiz to win on the road too. watch them do it

This match will be over in plenty of time to pick The Wiz.  You're not limited to one pick a day, you're simply limited to one pick at any given time.

Usually, if I've lost, I'll pick the next matchup regardless of whether I have a clue just in case I get lucky (assuming it ends before a pick where I think I have a chance).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 21, 2009, 05:46:56 pm
oh sweet. i'm picking soccer every day im not up
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 21, 2009, 06:39:53 pm
ENGLISH FA CUP - 4th ROUND

Friday, January 23

3:00 pm  Derby vs Nottingham Forest (Set)


Saturday, January 24

7:35am Hartlepool vs West Ham (Set)
10:00am Doncaster vs Aston Villa (FSC) (Really?  Over Wolves/Boro at the Molineaux?)
12:00pm Manchester United   vs  Tottenham   (FSC)
4:30pm Kettering Town   vs Fulham (FSC)

8:30pm US Men's National Team vs Sweden (FSC)


Sunday, January 25

8:30am Cardiff City vs Arsenal (Set)
11:00am   Liverpool vs Everton (Set)(Also 5th Round Draw)
11:00am Torquay United vs Coventry City    (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on January 21, 2009, 06:48:13 pm
i know nothing about soccer, had 4 in a row and for some reason decided to pick it and then realized about the 2nd leg thing.  rubbish!

 must...have...self...control...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 21, 2009, 06:50:18 pm
villa is the flavor of the month/year
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 22, 2009, 12:28:41 am
That's funny.  Smackette has a Cork City shirt from some old boyfriend of hers - it's pretty bitchen. 


I own 3 jerseys....the 1999 Champions league Man Utd jersey, the year of the treble, a vintage  70's George Best Man Utd (remember when the number corresponded to the position on the field) and a Cork City jersey which is as you said  is "bitchen". I don't see the point in buying the newest jersey if they play in red year after year so vintage is the way to go imo.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on January 22, 2009, 08:32:37 am
FC Barcelona of two years ago. Independiente Avellaneda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Atl%C3%A9tico_Independiente) of three years ago, and apparently, I am getting the Peru t-shirt next week.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 22, 2009, 02:31:40 pm
tim krul's loan has been cancelled, so i suppose that signals that given is going to shitty
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 26, 2009, 02:18:39 pm
Lots of Mid Week games this week...

Tuesday, Jan 27

2:40pm West Brom vs Man Utd (Set)
3:00pm  Portsmouth vs Aston Villa (FSC)
4:45pm Tottenham vs Stoke (Set)
5:00pm Sunderland vs Fulham (FSC)

Wednesday, Jan 28

2:30pm Wigan vs Liverpool (FSC)
2:55pm Everton vs Arsenal (Set)
5:00pm Manchester City vs Newcastle (FSC)
5:00pm Chelsea vs Middlesbrough (Set)
6:45pm West Ham vs Hull (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 26, 2009, 03:09:17 pm
so is rafa losing it or what? cant believe he hit out on moyes for playing too conservative on the road
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 26, 2009, 03:26:20 pm
so is rafa losing it or what? cant believe he hit out on moyes for playing too conservative on the road

I think he likes to see his name in the paper rather his team's poor form.  Let's be honest, that match was a Tim Howard howler away from being a Derby loss in the FA at home.  The more games they have to play the better in a United fans eyes, but that team's a mess right now.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 26, 2009, 05:20:11 pm
it was a pretty bad weekend for the teams spiraling downward. pompey, spurs both lost too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 27, 2009, 01:20:51 pm
oh my, gotta take villa in espn the streak. the over in the man u match sure is tempting though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 27, 2009, 01:29:19 pm
oh my, gotta take villa in espn the streak. the over in the man u match sure is tempting though

I debated those all night and decided Villa to win was the way to go.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 27, 2009, 01:30:47 pm
pompey are shocking! of the clubs that should be too good to go down, they are the most likely in my book

and no, there is not such thing as too good to go down

villa will be up for it, they could be second at the end of the week
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 27, 2009, 01:59:51 pm
tim krul's loan has been cancelled, so i suppose that signals that given is going to shitty

Harper's new deal makes it just about certain now...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 27, 2009, 02:24:30 pm
thats what i thought. i've seen a few places report that sky sports news is saying that newcastle have announced that shay's not for sale at any price. not on their site yet, though

which means to me that shitty either wouldnt include johnson or pay silly money
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 27, 2009, 06:05:25 pm
oh my, gotta take villa in espn the streak. the over in the man u match sure is tempting though

In the end, I guess it really didn't matter...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 27, 2009, 06:21:49 pm
yeah. 3/4 matches went the way i wanted, though i couldnt lose with the spurs/stoke match
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 29, 2009, 10:41:46 am
so i guess owen and barton have kicked their last balls for the black and white  :-[
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2009, 01:26:03 pm
so i guess owen and barton have kicked their last balls for the black and white  :-[

Barton's injury didn't look that bad until I saw him chuck his boots down the tunnel...then I thought, hmmm, he must be hurt really bad.

You could always look at it as cost savings for the Championship next season....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 29, 2009, 01:36:16 pm
theyd both be off in the summer anyway. ashley really wants to decrease the payroll, and joey makes 60k a week. owen's just one of the worst buys in prem history

the story going around is that even if they sell given and zogs, there will be no buys in january. i didnt think the toon would go down until last night, now i am certain of it

i couldnt see too many of our players sticking around for a year down below anyway

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2009, 04:04:15 pm
Saturday, January 31

7:40am Stoke vs Man City (Set)
9:40am Arsenal vs West Ham (Set)
10:00am Aston Villa vs  Wigan (FSC)
12:30pm Manchester United vs Everton (FSC)
5:00pm Bolton vs Tottenham (Set)
6:45pm Hull vs West Brom (Set)
8:00pm Fulham vs Portsmouth (FSC)


Sunday, February 1

8:25am Newcastle vs Sunderland (Set)
11:00am Liverpool vs Chelsea (FSC)
And then the Steelers are on.

NOTE: Monday's 3PM match between United and Everton was moved to Saturday.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 29, 2009, 04:18:55 pm
fairly certain my head will explode on sunday. be it joy tears or both
the story going around is that even if they sell given and zogs, there will be no buys in january.
i really should start making more posts like this: kevin nolan to the toon: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=614053&sec=transfers&cc=5901
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 02, 2009, 03:40:11 pm
Strangest last few days for football news....

I guess I can start wearing my Keane kit again.

I guess the Russian football owners are a lot like the Russian government.

Doesn't anybody do deals over the phone anymore?

And lastly, that Red card to Lampard was one of the worst calls I've ever seen.  Even the first time I saw it I thought Alonso was in trouble, which after seeing the video, I'm still shocked he wasn't.  And how did they miss Bosingwa's stomp?  Unbelievable.  Regardless, the better team won.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 02, 2009, 03:44:36 pm
Tuesday, Feb 3

2:45pm Arsenal vs Cardiff City (Set)


Wednesday, Feb 4

3:00pm Everton vs Liverpool (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 02, 2009, 04:08:59 pm
i guess a draw was a fair result against scumderland yesterday. thought newcastle were the better side for most of the second half

so toon have MADE 10m in the window while battling relegation. just terrible management

'arrys been making some nice bungs though

everton really tried to park the bus against you guys. did van der sar even see a shot?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 02, 2009, 05:46:50 pm
so toon have MADE 10m in the window while battling relegation. just terrible management

I really kind of thought that if Mike were healthy, you just trade him for Keane straight up.  I guess your bosses needed the money...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 02, 2009, 05:58:25 pm
haha, now you sound like a toon fan

the bad part is they leaked a bunch of promising leads to the press, so the fans are thinking that veloso, luis garcia or denilson on loan are going to come over and then end up with nowt. selling n'somnia i see, but selling given without spending it is shocking
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 02, 2009, 06:10:13 pm
everton really tried to park the bus against you guys. did van der sar even see a shot?

That's pretty much what everyone has done to United this season (save Arsenal) since Sunderland almost earned a draw back in Dec.  It's really made for some boring football.

Van der Saar will be credited for three saves, but in reality was only "tested" once, and even then it wasn't anything to see in a highlight reel.

So Quaresma to Chelsea and Arshevin to Arsenal...I just shrug mt shoulders at those two moves.  I guess that means fabregas is heading to Madrid this off season.     
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 02, 2009, 06:12:10 pm
n'somnia

I laughed when I read that, but it was tacky on his part.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 02, 2009, 06:22:58 pm
totally tacky. joke in ear is irish what can you do

zogs needed to go though. every window its 'oh arsenal would be great, lyon come and get me' so he goes to wigan
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 03, 2009, 01:19:25 pm
The Cardiff Arsenal match has been canceled.  No word on if Setanta will broadcast Burnley vs West Brom instead.  If anybody hears definitively, let me know.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on February 03, 2009, 02:36:22 pm
Strangest last few days for football news....

I guess I can start wearing my Keane kit again.


Do you actually wear a whole kit around or were you trying to be down with the nomenclature by throwing 'kit' down instead of jersey?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 03, 2009, 02:38:51 pm
Do you actually wear a whole kit around or were you trying to be down with the nomenclature by throwing 'kit' down instead of jersey?

Are you saying that I shouldn't match my outfits simply because I'm on the field?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 03, 2009, 02:45:57 pm
a spurs shirt would look good with a white belt, at least as good as a spurs shirt could look
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 03, 2009, 04:22:27 pm
a spurs shirt would look good with a white belt, at least as good as a spurs shirt could look

It'll be the first time they've looked good for a couple of seasons.


*Overheard in St. James Park*

"Lets face it, we suck, we're shyte man. In fact, the only thing we've got going for us is our goalie. If it wasn't for him we'd be rooted firmly on the bottom of the table destined for championship football next season"
"HEY!!! Let's sell him to another stuggling team"
"Wayaaaaay man, You're a genius"

Keane is one of the most overrated players in the premiership, probably second only to Gerrard. They are both slightly better than average players on a squad of barely average players so look much better than they actually are. Hence Gerrards disapointing performances for England. It's no coincidence that no other top flight team was on the phone when it was obvious he wasn't happy at Anfield. Redknap is a good manager though so will probably do something with him.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 03, 2009, 04:33:45 pm
Let's sell him to another stuggling team
this is a good point, actually. its one thing if they needed the money but to sell to another struggler is just stupid. especially when shitty's whole problem is all of the sketchy folks they have there seem to tank it if things arent going their way. hey, lets give them a guy that doesnt quit. at the end of the day you cant stop a guy from leaving if he wants to leave, but the toon got nothing out of this as far as the rest of the year goes
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on February 04, 2009, 12:30:19 am
Do you actually wear a whole kit around or were you trying to be down with the nomenclature by throwing 'kit' down instead of jersey?

Are you saying that I shouldn't match my outfits simply because I'm on the field?
Depends on what you're doing on the field.
A matching outfit is fine for a picnic at a field.
A uniform is better for playing on a field.
A kit is good for playing on a pitch.

You know how to order a Quarter Pounder with Cheese in Paris?

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 04, 2009, 02:13:16 pm
The Arsenal vs. Cardiff FA Cup match will be broadcast on Setanta at 6:00pm ET (immediately following Everton vs Liverpool).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 04, 2009, 02:18:56 pm
Clearly you didn't realize that wearing the full kit at all times is acceptable now...

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/mag/2009issues/0209/cover.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on February 05, 2009, 01:24:04 am
Clearly you didn't realize that wearing the full kit at all times is acceptable now...

(http://a.espncdn.com/i/mag/2009issues/0209/cover.jpg)

Woah ... You can't bring Kobe into the mix. He's on the cutting-edge of modern living.
It'll be a few years before our society finds it acceptable to bang teen chicks in hotels without spousal approval.
I'd leave it to him to pave these roads. Be more conventional like Shaq, pay your bitches not to talk and don't wear a full kit.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 05, 2009, 10:57:22 am
you seem awfully interested in what smackies wearing these days. not that theres anything wrong with that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 05, 2009, 11:37:25 am
Great to see one of the best athletes in the world wearing Barcelona's t-shirt! Maybe Gasol had something to do with it. Before starting to play in the NBA he was a Barcelona player. Still really glad to see a reference to FC Barcelona in a US magazine.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 05, 2009, 01:07:31 pm
i dont think its gasol, i remember kobe being all star struck when barca did a preseason tour a few years back. that and i dont think kobe talks to team mates

i think barca is going to have an involvement with the new mls miami franchise (if they get it)

looks like oba will be back this weekend, and mikey might only miss 2 league games

smackie, do you know if the usa/mexico match next week will be in hd?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on February 05, 2009, 03:13:57 pm
you seem awfully interested in what smackies wearing these days. not that theres anything wrong with that
What are you wearing?

On topic, interesting they are going with Seattle before Miami.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 05, 2009, 03:29:44 pm
black vneck sweater (penguin) and jeans

paul allen and drew carey trump barca, plus who wants to run for 90s minutes on an august afternoon in south florida? yuck
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2009, 04:46:20 pm
The Arsenal vs. Cardiff FA Cup match will be broadcast on Setanta at 6:00pm ET (immediately following Everton vs Liverpool).

If this game ever happens, it will be Monday, Feb 16, 3pm et on Setanta.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 05, 2009, 04:53:58 pm
hm, so will le arse not have their internationals back? i guess portsmouth/shitty might have the same issue the saturday before as well
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2009, 05:04:03 pm
hm, so will le arse not have their internationals back? i guess portsmouth/shitty might have the same issue the saturday before as well

If Carlos Vela has to miss the US match to play for Arsenal, I wouldn't shed a tear.

And I have no specific link to show that it's in HD, but I think it will be in HD (at least the US leg).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 05, 2009, 05:23:28 pm
i hope so. i get ENTIRELY too excited for nonmls footie in hd
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2009, 05:29:23 pm
And I have no specific link to show that it's in HD, but I think it will be in HD (at least the US leg).

I do now...ESPN2's TV listings (http://sports.espn.go.com/espntv/espnGuide) now show that it will be in HD.  You may now commence gizzing.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 05, 2009, 05:51:43 pm
DONE
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 06, 2009, 07:50:07 am
black vneck sweater (penguin) and jeans

plus who wants to run for 90s minutes on an august afternoon in south florida? yuck

Wait.........they run during MLS matches????
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 06, 2009, 09:23:49 am
the supporters clubs with their drums and such
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 06, 2009, 04:27:09 pm
Come on Hertha...

Saturday, Feb 7

7:40am Man City vs Middlesbrough (Set)
9:40am Chelsea vs Hull (set)
10:00am Blackburn vs Aston Villa (FSC)
12:30pm Portsmouth vs Liverpool (FSC)
12:30pm West Brom vs Newcastle (Set)
5:00pm   Sunderland vs Stoke (Set)
8:00pm Everton vs Bolton (FSC)


Sunday, February 8

8:25am Tottenham vs Arsenal (Set)
11:00am West Ham vs Manchester United (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 09, 2009, 01:55:48 pm
adams and scolari sacked. cant say im blown away by either, but scolari certainly is funnier

wba were shocking on saturday. not sure the win means much, but i'll take it
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 09, 2009, 02:46:15 pm
Scolari should have faked a heart attack to avoid being fired or having to quit...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 09, 2009, 02:51:51 pm
i certainly dont think kinnear faked his heart attack, is ready to quit or would have been sacked until the end of the season. supposedly he has a 2 year deal on the table
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 09, 2009, 03:47:39 pm
I didn't say anything about Kinnear...

Venerable and I were white-trashing it in Reno this weekend and I had a devil of a time finding a place to watch the United match.  I eventually had to watch the match on the small TVs reserved for the horse races in the Sportsbook.  Oh, and it was only available En Vvio on Fox Sports En Espanol.  At 8 AM, that area was filled with a bunch of homeless people trying to stay warm and me watching United on a small screen in Spanish.  That's in my book for sure.


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 09, 2009, 04:33:33 pm
my bad i thought that was your implication

i didnt watch much of the manu/wet spam match as i had already watched 4 full matches, the last 20 minutes of the liverpool/pompey match and the last 10 of the everton match. and i had to go to work on a sunday  :-[
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 09, 2009, 04:42:24 pm
my bad i thought that was your implication

I totally was.  Poor use (or non-use in this case) of my sarcasm tabs.

Unfortunately we were on the road for the Pool match but got a nice play by play from my brother in law during our 4 hour drive.  It got to the point where we were thinking this could be the end of it (if it were a 5 point lead with a game in hand, or even a 4 point lead).  But they dug it out to keep it a somewhat entertaining finish.  Looks like the rest have just given up.  Let the fire sale at Arsenal begin!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 09, 2009, 05:32:07 pm
i dont understand the logic in resting torres for that game at all

as far as joke in ear goes, cant see him not lasting the year unless he really cant go on due to his health. that would be a shame to be honest

having said that i cant see him coming back next year no matter how the season shakes out.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 09, 2009, 08:31:05 pm
....and Scolari bites the dust!!!

I might not know much but I do know football, you have to admit that!!

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on February 09, 2009, 09:20:04 pm
Firing Scolari is just ridiculous. He is a proven coach and things would have turned around at some point. Now they'll have to pay him $22 million just to get rid of him!

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 10, 2009, 09:23:43 am
not proven at the european club level, and certainly not in england
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 10, 2009, 02:01:21 pm
Scolari's a bum, but the Russia job might be available again...

Lot's of International action this week.  Q=qualifier, F=Friendly

Tuesday, Feb 10

2:30pm [F] Brazil vs. Italy (FSC)


Wednesday, Feb 11

5:00am [Q]    Japan vs. Australia (FSC)
11:00am [Q] Iran vs. South Korea (FSC)
3:00pm [F] Argentina vs. France (ESPN2HD)
4:00pm [F] Spain vs. England (PPV - $20)
7:00pm [Q] USA vs. Mexico (ESN2HD)


Thursday, Feb 12

6:00pm [Q] Ireland vs Georgia (SET - 1st Air, originally played on Wed)


Friday, Feb 13

6:00pm [F] Spain vs England (SET - 1st Air, originally played on Wed)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 10, 2009, 02:10:22 pm
oh cool. i was looking for ireland and didnt find it on wednesday. didnt even think to look for it on thursday. might catch england too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 10, 2009, 02:19:06 pm
I'll probably try to DL both via bit torrent to watch tomorrow night.  I'll let you know if I find them (England should be easy, Ireland maybe not).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2009, 10:45:36 am
kinnear to have a bypass: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=618091&sec=england&cc=5901
bordering on the absurd, the manager even gets injured. looks like were stuck with hughton and calderwood for the duration  ::)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 11, 2009, 08:08:00 pm
not proven at the european club level, and certainly not in england

Exactly! And I would go so far as to say he's not proven anywhere. As I keep saying, my mother could coach Brasil to a world cup final win. He didn't do much with Portugal and their well of talent did he??

Other than Brasil....just what exactly has he achieved?

I think he's getting 7.5m sterling as a payout....not bad huh?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on February 12, 2009, 11:51:06 am
jesus the boys in green were lucky last night but I'll take it - top of the table with italy not to be sniffed at
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 12, 2009, 12:57:45 pm
u.s. looked ok last night. mexico just cant help themselves, i thought they might have a chance for a point until the red. now their captain misses a third of the remaining qualifiers, right?

shape was held well, though the passing could be better. there is a decent amount of pace out there with beasley, donovan and kljestan. thought that pearce wasnt very good and with hejduk really getting up there in age, they need to find some full backs. free kick goal was good form all around, the delivery, heading it to gooch, the shot and then burying the rebound
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 12, 2009, 01:59:57 pm
I've been trying to prepare myself for this, but I can't.  I just can't....

Giggs Drops Hint of Retirement (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=607263&sec=england&cc=5901)

Yippee!!  I don't have to...

Giggs pens deal to stay one more year (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=618402&sec=england&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 12, 2009, 02:19:43 pm
Well, I thought the US looked crap myself (although I'm willing to say the conditions may have made them look worse than they really were).  Sven will be fired soon if he hasn't already.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 12, 2009, 03:43:22 pm
maybe our expectations were different
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 12, 2009, 03:54:07 pm
maybe our expectations were different

You watch a lot of the Toon, I watch a lot of the Red Devils...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 12, 2009, 04:55:40 pm
they almost won 1-0 you should have been happy
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 12, 2009, 06:22:34 pm
they almost won 1-0 you should have been happy

Well done.

Although Mexico didn't put 11 guys in the box all day, they just couldn't do anything with the ball in their half...
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Post by: vansmack on February 12, 2009, 07:13:52 pm
Saturday, Feb 14

7:15am FA - Swansea City vs Fulham (Set)
9:45am FA - West Ham vs Middlesbrough (set)
10:00am FA - Sheffield United vs. Hull City (FSC)
12:15pm FA - Watford vs Chelsea (Set)
4:30pm FA - Blackburn   vs Coventry City (FSC)
9:15pm   EPL - Portsmouth vs Man City (Set)

Sunday, Feb 15

9:20am   FA - Everton vs Aston Villa (set)
11:30am FA - Derby vs Manchester United (FSC)


Monday, FEb 16

2:45pm FA Cup - 4th Round Replay: Arsenal vs Cardiff (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2009, 09:50:58 am
jesus the boys in green were lucky last night but I'll take it - top of the table with italy not to be sniffed at
finally watched this last night. pen was bullshit, but they had the look of scoring anyway. thought the offside goal for the republic should have stood, too. i kind of miss watching kevin doyle play in the prem, but they need steven ireland to end his exile. they dont have a guy in center midfield that adds much to the attack
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Post by: brennser on February 13, 2009, 11:13:17 am
jesus the boys in green were lucky last night but I'll take it - top of the table with italy not to be sniffed at
finally watched this last night. pen was bullshit, but they had the look of scoring anyway. thought the offside goal for the republic should have stood, too. i kind of miss watching kevin doyle play in the prem, but they need steven ireland to end his exile. they dont have a guy in center midfield that adds much to the attack
well trappa the gaffa said yesterday he needs to decide sooner rather than later - if we qualify for the world cup without him he won't be in the squad
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2009, 11:22:18 am
thats fair
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 18, 2009, 12:37:03 am
Wednesday, Feb 18

2:55pm EPL Man Utd vs Fulham (SET)
6:00pm UEFA Cup - Aston Villa vs CSKA Moscow (Set)
7:45pm UEFA Cup - Werder Bremen vs AC Milan (Set)
11:15pm UEFA Cup - Bordeaux vs Galatasaray (Set)


Thursday, Feb 19

1:30pm UEFA Cup - Shakhtar vs Tottenham (Set)
 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 20, 2009, 02:06:56 pm
I'm out of the country starting tomorrow so here's the list for while I'm away.  Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to convert this to ESPN Deportes...

Sat, Feb 21

7:40am Aston Villa vs Chelsea (Set)
9:40am Arsenal vs Sunderland (Set)
10:00am Bolton vs West Ham (FSC)
12:30pm Manchester United vs Blackburn (FSC)
5:00pm Middlesbrough vs Wigan (Set)
6:30pm Stoke City vs Portsmouth (Set)


Sunday, Feb 22

8:25am Fulham vs West Brom (Set)
10:00am Liverpool vs Manchester City (FSC)
3:00pm Newcastle vs Everton (FSC)


Monday, Feb 23

3:00pm Hull vs Tottenham (Set)



CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Tuesday, Feb 24

2:00pm Arsenal vs AS Roma (Set)
2:30pm Inter vs Man Utd (ESPN2)
5:00pm Lyon vs Barca (ESPN Classic)
5:35pm Lyon vs Barcelona (Set)
11:00pm Athletico Madrid vs Porto (Set)


Wednesday, Feb 25

2:30pm Chelsea vs Juventus (ESPN2)
2:40pm Real Madrid vs Liverpool (set)
5:00pm Real Madrid vs Liverpool (ESPN Classic)
5:45pm Villareal vs Panathinaikos (Set)
11:00pm Sporting Lisbon vs Bayern Munich (Set)


Thursday, Feb 26

11:45am UEFA Cup - CSKA Moscow vs Aston Villa (Set)
2:10pm FA Cup - Hull vs Sheffield Utd (Set)
6:00pm UEFA - Galatasaray vs Bordeaux (Set)
7:45pm UEFA Cup - St Etienne vs Olympiacos (Set)
11:15pm UEFA Cup - Udinese vs Lech Poznan (Set)


Saturday, Feb 28

7:40am Everton vs West Brom (Set)
9:40am Middlesbrough vs Liverpool (Set)
10:00am Arsenal vs Fulham (FSC)
5:00pm Chelsea vs Wigan (Set)


Sunday, Mar 1

7:25am West Ham vs Man City (Set)
9:55am Carling Cup Final - Man Utd vs Tottenham (Set)
10:00am  Aston Villa vs Stoke City (FSC)   
4:30pm Bolton vs Newcastle (FSC)
5:00pm Hull vs Blackburn (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 20, 2009, 02:16:26 pm
is that newcastle/toffees match live? i dont remember a sunday night game before

have fun away. going anywhere fun?
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Post by: vansmack on February 20, 2009, 02:43:19 pm
is that newcastle/toffees match live? i dont remember a sunday night game before

No, delayed and I'm glad you found that odd too.  And please double check my work - with CA's budget finally passing I haven't slept in days...

have fun away. going anywhere fun?

I'm going surfing in Mexico while Smackette is treated like a queen at some fancy resort in Cabo...I picked a good week to go to a country that cares about futbol.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 20, 2009, 03:43:35 pm
i count 10 matches this week, so that looks right, and the 5 i am interested in are all in the right place (though i suppose i cant watch pool/shitty live)

i wish i was going somewhere warm
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Post by: sweetcell on February 20, 2009, 05:27:06 pm
anyone signing up for world cup tickets?  sign-up for the lottery for tickets starts today.  i'm seriously considering the trip to south africa.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 20, 2009, 07:36:17 pm
anyone signing up for world cup tickets?  sign-up for the lottery for tickets starts today.  i'm seriously considering the trip to south africa.

I'll be in SA but we're buying tickets for the US squad.  We decided not to buy the tickets for one particular venue...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 24, 2009, 01:09:24 pm
i'm more of a club over country guy, so while i am sure the wc will be loads of fun id rather go over and see maybe 2 prem matches (newcastle and someone else) on a saturday and sunday and a cl (obviously not my team) match in england if i was going to put out that kind of money and time into football

although i really want to go to south america sometime in my life...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 24, 2009, 01:58:15 pm
Champions League is back, today.

February 24 
 
20:45 Arsenal  - AS Roma
20:45 Atletico Madrid - FC Porto
20:45 Inter Milan - Manchester U.
20:45 Lyon - Barcelona

February 25
20:45 Chelsea - Juventus
20:45 Real Madrid - Liverpool
20:45 Sporting Lisbon - Bayern Munich
20:45 Villarreal - Panathinaikos

Not sure what to think about Barcelona in Lyon tonight, really bad game in the Spanish League on Saturday, we lost at home to the last team in La Liga, Espanyol, the other team in Barcelona.

Inter ManU should be great, and looking forward to Liverpool stopping Real Madrid's recovery.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 01, 2009, 03:51:55 pm
2 down, 3 to go....

Midweek matches.  Time to exact a little revenge:

Tuesday, March 3

2:30pm Portsmouth vs Chelsea (FSC)
2:55pm Liverpool vs Sunderland (Set)
5:00pm West Brom vs Arsenal (Set)

Wednesday, March 4

2:30pm Manchester City vs Aston Villa (FSC)
2:40pm Newcastle vs Man Utd (Set)
4:45pm Wigan vs West Ham (Set)
5:00pm Blackburn    vs Everton (FSC)
6:30pm Fulham vs Hull (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 02, 2009, 11:33:30 am
i had some weird dream about finishing a match with geremi and ryan taylor in central midfield. glad that was just a dream  :(

hope it doesnt look like a baseball score on wednesday
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 04, 2009, 10:00:22 am
smackie, are you watching live today?

i likely wont have a chance to catch this until 7/8 oclock eastern
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Post by: vansmack on March 04, 2009, 01:05:35 pm
smackie, are you watching live today?

i likely wont have a chance to catch this until 7/8 oclock eastern

Duly noted.  And yes, I plan to watch at my desk today via my slingbox.
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Post by: vansmack on March 04, 2009, 02:12:44 pm
Regarding Newcastle, Ferguson said: "I remember when they cuffed us 5-0. They are still selling the video.

"It was an exciting time for Newcastle then. They had some exciting players - Les Ferdinand, Faustino Asprilla, David Ginola.

"It is a fantastic football club. Everyone has got that black and white strip on and there is real football passion.

"I walked through the town with (former assistant) Archie Knox once and a news vendor was shouting 'Mickey Quinn has an ankle injury'.

"The world could have been in turmoil, with disasters and financial institutions collapsing. They were talking about Mickey Quinn's ankle. That sums up the city.''
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 04, 2009, 02:34:23 pm
i wonder if they'll burn the bigg market to the ground if the toon gets relegated, which looks fairly likely
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Post by: vansmack on March 04, 2009, 06:41:50 pm
This is a good weekend to pay extra attention to the wife, may even do a Sunday brunch for a chip to cash in later...


Saturday, Mar 7

7:30am FA Cup - Coventry City vs Chelsea (FSC)
12:00pm FA Cup - Fulham vs Man Utd (Set)
5:00pm EPL - Sunderland vs Tottenham (Set)


Sunday, Mar 8

9:30am FA Cup (5th Round) - Arsenal vs Burnley (FSC)
12:00pm FA Cup - Everton vs Middlesbrough (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 04, 2009, 11:55:25 pm
play well in a hopeless game, play terrible in a winnable. and hull and stoke both won. not looking good

i was actually bummed that roma arent on fsc this weekend, that rarely happens
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Post by: vansmack on March 06, 2009, 12:38:09 am
Still a puss... (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=625002&sec=mls&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 06, 2009, 09:45:32 am
who klinsman?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 09, 2009, 01:05:59 pm
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE - KNOCKOUT STAGE DAY 2

Tuesday, March 10

3:00pm Juventus vs Chelsea (0-1) (Set) (also on at 6:00 on ESPN Classic)
3:30pm Liverpool vs Real Madrid (1-0) (ESPN)
6:30pm Panathinaikos vs Villareal (1-1) (Set)
10:00pm Bayern Munich vs Sporting Lisbon (5-0) (Set)


Wednesday, March 11

3:00pm AS Roma vs Arsenal (0-1) (Set)
3:30pm Manchester United vs Inter Milan (0-0) (ESPN CLASSIC)
6:30pm Barcelona vs Lyon (1-1) (Set) (Also on ESPN Classic at 6)
10:00pm Porto vs Atletico Madrid (2-2) (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 10, 2009, 04:40:57 pm
I should also point out that the champions league matches are available on ESPN360 (http://espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/index?gameId=null) for some ISP's (like my work ISP) and you can now start the games from the beginning even before they are archived.

It used to be that you had to watch live or wait until the game finished, but you can now choose to watch a game live and then drag the bar back to the start of the match to watch from the beginning.  I'm ten minutes into Liverpool/Real at my desk even though in real time it's nearing the end. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 11, 2009, 09:17:13 am
so you only had about 20 minutes left before it ended

i should have recorded juve/chelski too. made sure i got both the roma/arse and inter/manu matches today
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 11, 2009, 12:41:12 pm
so you only had about 20 minutes left before it ended


as I told venerable when he asked me which games we could discuss in the afternoon:

I just switched to Juve vs Chelsea - I watched about 45 minutes too many of the Liverpool match, and the second half just started.  What an embarrassment that was for Real...sure Lisbon lost 12-1 on aggregate, but I think 5-0 to Liverpool for such a big club is far more embarrassing. 

Line your players up, because this can only mean that they are going to overspend like mad in the off season!   I'll take 90 Million plus Schneider for Ronaldo, and then buy Ribry and a right back and be much better next year than this years already scary good team.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 11, 2009, 12:51:00 pm
it looked like liverpool was playing real salt lake to be honest. no ability to break up or hold possession. couldnt even get it out wide very well, i watched until the second goal and then fast forwarded to the other three

if the story that this was rafa's audition for the real job are true, guess he passed with flying colors
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 11, 2009, 01:22:27 pm
if the story that this was rafa's audition for the real job are true, guess he passed with flying colors

He will quickly be brought back down to earth on Saturday....but yeah, I'm sure the Madrid fans were not happy seeing Torres, Alonso and Mascherano tear apart the Madrid midfield and back four like that.  They probably want Rafi and those three.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 11, 2009, 01:49:38 pm
true, but for them its all about the cl and rafa is a cup manager. the league, not so much

man, this week is the season for man u. inter could be the most dangerous team for them and beating 'pool will end their domestic title hopes. good luck, but i like your chances
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 11, 2009, 02:39:07 pm
This week is HUGE (although I still think Barca is the team to challenge United in the CL)...Jose needing to score one goal and then sit back on a lead in England....[sarcasm]never seen that before.[/sarcasm]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Inter doesn't score a goal today (assuming Rio starts).  Now, if we can avoid PK's, I'll be less worried this afternoon.

As for Liverpool, a lot of what happens on Saturday will depend on how high United's shoulders are after today.

I will be watching live on ESPN 360 with my office door shut.

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Post by: vansmack on March 11, 2009, 03:06:53 pm
Rio is starting, with Vidic, O'Shea and Evra.

Scholes, Carrick, Giggs, and Ronaldo.

Berbatov and Rooney.

Sir Alex is definitely not interested in going to Penalties...
 
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 11, 2009, 03:12:25 pm
woah
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 11, 2009, 09:20:58 pm
Barcelona can beat Manchester United, but Barcelona can also lose badly to Man. United. Also, Liverpool and Chelsea seem to be in decent form, at least in the Champions League. I would say it will be between these four teams.

I love Liverpool for what they did with Real Madrid!
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Post by: vansmack on March 12, 2009, 05:41:39 pm
If only this could translate into international football:

'English nightmare' haunts Serie A (http://www1.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/talkfootball/blogs/newsid=809880.html)
12 March 2009, 15:40

Following the elimination of all three Italian sides at the hands of Premier League clubs, newspapers in the Belpaese were left to lament on "l'incubo inglese" ? "the English nightmare". For the first time in seven years there will be no Italian team in the quarter-finals of the UEFA Champions League.

'Disappointing quality'
ACF Fiorentina were first out, failing to get beyond the group stage, before Juventus, FC Internazionale Milano and AS Roma fell to Chelsea FC, Manchester United FC and Arsenal FC in the last 16. "Maledizione!" ("Damn it!") screamed the headline of La Gazzetta dello Sport, with La Repubblica stating: "Our league has a disappointing quality, the average attendance at the stadiums is constantly decreasing and the results in Europe are unsatisfactory."

Tough times
For the world's top players, Serie A is no longer the league of choice. Where once Diego Maradona and Zindine Zidane entertained Italian fans, now the world's stars flock to the Premier League or the Spanish Liga. The Bundesliga and Ligue 1 now boast some of the country's top stars. Italy won the FIFA World Cup in 2006, but since then results for both clubs and country on the international stage have been disappointing. The sporting fraud scandal in the summer of 2006 hit Italian football hard, but that is not the only problem. Italian clubs simply do not have the same financial clout as their English rivals.

Old problems
Inter, who are poised to win their fourth Scudetto in a row, turned to Jos Mourinho in the summer in a bid to bring their domestic dominance to bear in Europe, but just like last season the Nerazzurri were eliminated in the Round of 16 by an English side. Turin sports daily Tuttosport said: "Just like under Roberto Mancini the Nerazzurri don't go far in Europe ? nothing has changed with Mourinho."

'Yes we can'
The fact Inter, the best Italian side in recent years, failed to reach the quarter-finals for the second season in a row has set alarm bells ringing among Serie A teams. In addition, of the five Italian outfits that qualified for the UEFA Cup only Udinese Calcio remain. The clubs know change is needed, but it is not easy to find a solution. Kak's decision to spurn Manchester City FC's audacious overtures in January at least struck a moral blow for Serie A and the fevered support for Juventus on Tuesday suggests the passion is undimmed. Juve fans displayed a banner that read 'Yes we can' before the return leg against Chelsea. It is from that kind of support and optimism that change will come.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 12, 2009, 06:01:27 pm
i cant see italy being a favorite for the wc next year. all of their best players are ancient

as far as club football goes, these things are always cyclical, right?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 12, 2009, 06:07:18 pm

as far as club football goes, these things are always cyclical, right?

Are you saying the fall of the pound is going to have a negative effect on English football?

Of course they are and taking out the quarter-finals country protection rule will likely keep two English teams from making the final again, which is probably a good thing for football.

Nonetheless, I will still revel in this.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 12, 2009, 06:10:46 pm
fall of the pound, foreign investors running out of english teams to buy, the financial trouble the la liga sides are facing...what have you

then again theres always the european SUPER league that the bloggers like to talk about
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Post by: vansmack on March 12, 2009, 06:17:10 pm
Saturday, March 14

8:40am Manchester United vs Liverpool (Set)


I guess I should mention these other games too...

10:40am Arsenal vs Blackburn (Set)
11:00am  Everton vs Stoke City (FSC)
5:30pm Hull City   vs Newcastle (FSC)
7:30pm Bolton vs Fulham (FSC)
7:45pm Sunderland vs Wigan (Set)
9:30pm Middlesbrough vs Portsmouth (Set)


Sunday, March 15

9:00am Chelsea vs Manchester City (Set)
12:00pm Aston Villa vs Tottenham    (FSC)


Monday, March 16

4:00pm West Ham vs West Brom (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 14, 2009, 01:17:11 pm
Didnt see the game, but incredible what Benitez is capable of, first year the Champions League, then another final and now in four days he trashes Real Madrid and Manchester United. Would not want to face Liverpool in the Champions League now. As for Manchester United, a bit like at the beginning of the season, this year they do not look like last year.

Premiership and Champions League seem to be wide open.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on March 15, 2009, 08:38:17 am
Didnt see the game, but incredible what Benitez is capable of, first year the Champions League, then another final and now in four days he trashes Real Madrid and Manchester United. Would not want to face Liverpool in the Champions League now. As for Manchester United, a bit like at the beginning of the season, this year they do not look like last year.

Premiership and Champions League seem to be wide open.

the key phrase there is didn't see the game - fair play to Liverpool and all but if there ever was a score not reflective of a game then this was it - if anything I think Man U were the better team over the 90 minutes. We made 4 horrendous defensive mistakes and Liverpool scored off each one - the odds of that happening again are slight

As for wide open, I'll take 4 points with a game in hand any day of the week - Man U have lost 1 game after one of the most incredible streaks in Prem history - it had to happen sooner or later

We'll see what happens next week at Craven Cottage - I'll be there cheering the lads on!!
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Post by: vansmack on March 15, 2009, 04:55:28 pm
I agree with Brennser on this one.  This was an uncharacteristic loss for United in that it was ripe with HUGE errors on United's part, many of which were not created by anything Liverpool did.  I would say the same for United's goal...

I'm actually more concerned about what to about Vidic in future Liverpool ties than I am about the title race.  I'm no expert, but I know the difference between a trend and a problem and 4 red cards in 5 ties sure looks like a problem to me.
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Post by: vansmack on March 15, 2009, 04:58:03 pm
We'll see what happens next week at Craven Cottage - I'll be there cheering the lads on!!

Ouch.  That hurts a little bit because I'm super jealous, but kudos to you.  Have a GREAT time.
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Post by: brennser on March 15, 2009, 11:22:46 pm
We'll see what happens next week at Craven Cottage - I'll be there cheering the lads on!!

Ouch.  That hurts a little bit because I'm super jealous, but kudos to you.  Have a GREAT time.
Thanks Smackie - really looking forward to it. Craven Cottage is meant to be a nice little ground as well. Just hope the score is better than my last game, a 1-0 loss to West Ham in Curbishleys first game in charge

HUGE sporting weekend over the pond with Ireland going for the Grand Slam against Wales on Sat - wish I could teleport myself to Cardiff after the Man U game

I'll also be in Dublin for the Ireland-Bulgaria game but will unfortunately have to skip because of wifeys birthday
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 16, 2009, 10:12:01 am
speaking from a neutral view, the score was entirely too harsh. while vidic was shocking i thought that man u would still win up until the third goal. i dont know if its really that wide open, you have to figure that man u has to drop points in four matches, and their two hardest remaining are arse and an out of form villa, but they get both at ot
I'll also be in Dublin for the Ireland-Bulgaria game but will unfortunately have to skip because of wifeys birthday
3 points there would be great for the republic
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 17, 2009, 11:51:23 am
Sorry for the late notice but this is a makeup game and wasn't on my schedule...

Tuesday, March 17

3:45pm FA Cup 6th Round: Arsenal vs Hull (set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2009, 12:16:42 pm
i should watch this and root for injuries

lots and lots of injuries  :(  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 20, 2009, 08:56:44 am
Villarreal - Arsenal
Manchester United - Porto
Liverpool - Chelsea
Barcelona - Bayern Munich

afraid of the second game in Munich. Great to see Liverpool against Chelsea again.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 20, 2009, 09:10:02 am
great? thats the worst possible draw. liverpoor vs chelzzzz = snoozefest

terrible draw, as a neutral none of these matchups really get me going. maybe barca/bayern
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 20, 2009, 12:32:46 pm
Anyway, first time in my life, leaving now to see a live cricket game. West Indies against England, 50 overs game in Georgetown, Guyana. I will go for the afternoon session, interesting to see the atmosphere when the two guyanese players bat.

I think the Chelsea Liverpool games are going to be good. Barcelona against Bayern should be quite open, lots of goals. Villarreal Arsenal should be open, wouldn't assume that Arsenal will go through easily. Porto tend to be always good, it will depend how the first game ends in Old Trafford.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 20, 2009, 12:32:57 pm
As a United supporter, I probably couldn't have asked for a better draw for the club, but you're right, as a football fan, this is maybe the worst possible draw.

Look at the bright side, there won't be a Chelsea-Liverpool snoozefest final...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 20, 2009, 02:05:18 pm
yeah, instead we'll have it over two legs

maybe uefa is trying to prove these things arent rigged
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 20, 2009, 02:43:47 pm
Saturday, March 21

8:40am Portsmouth vs Everton (set)
10:40am Fulham vs Man Utd (Set)
11:00am Tottenham vs Chelsea (FSC)
1:30pm Newcastle vs Arsenal (FSC)
7:45pm Blackburn vs West Ham (Set)
9:30pm West Brom vs Bolton (Set)

Sunday, March 22

9:25am Wigan vs Hull (Set)
12:00pm Liverpool vs Aston Villa (FSC)
5:30pm Manchester City vs Sunderland (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 21, 2009, 01:14:39 pm

the key phrase there is didn't see the game - fair play to Liverpool and all but if there ever was a score not reflective of a game then this was it - if anything I think Man U were the better team over the 90 minutes. We made 4 horrendous defensive mistakes and Liverpool scored off each one - the odds of that happening again are slight

As for wide open, I'll take 4 points with a game in hand any day of the week - Man U have lost 1 game after one of the most incredible streaks in Prem history - it had to happen sooner or later


2-0 against Fullham, if Liverpool wins tomorrow this thing might be open.  Barcelona was 12 points ahead of Real Madrid and in three weeks the difference went down to 4 points. I think Manchester United this year is not as strong as last year.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 21, 2009, 02:13:49 pm
poor brennser
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Post by: brennser on March 22, 2009, 02:27:03 pm
poor brennser

total fucking NIGHTMARE from start to finish - we were shit, unbelievably shit...couldn't string two passes together - made fucking Fulham look lke Barcafuckinglona

at least the Irish rugby team put their choking days behind them with the grand slam

but horrible, horrible horrible.......been drowning my sorrows the whole damn weekend
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 23, 2009, 12:55:09 pm
I'm actually not ready to discuss it yet.  Maybe tomorrow.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 23, 2009, 01:13:51 pm
my plan was to only watch the first 20 minutes or so and then go for a run, but i was so transfixed by the meltdown i had to watch the entire thing

i almost texted smackie but i decided to be nice for once. and i figured the toon match would make my head explode. it did
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Post by: vansmack on March 23, 2009, 01:39:43 pm
i almost texted smackie but i decided to be nice for once.

I probably would have thrown my phone through my TV.

Right now, I think it's a race to see who's reputation can fall faster:  the squad or their sponsor?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 23, 2009, 02:11:34 pm
well, for the sake of the tv, i am glad i showed restraint

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Post by: sonickteam2 on March 25, 2009, 12:14:00 pm
  yeah, soccer in Baltimore!!!!!

www.worldfootballchallenge.com

   neato, i think i'll hit that up! 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 25, 2009, 12:36:45 pm
i was thinking about it. pretty expensive for a friendly, though. likely only to see pato and lamps for 45 minutes, but at least there's no mls team involved
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 25, 2009, 12:40:44 pm
I'll be passing on Inter/Club America out here, but in my previous experience scalped and corporate sponsor tickets were plentiful the last time they did this so I don't think there's a need to pay face for a ticket.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 25, 2009, 12:45:35 pm
good to know

cant believe that inter and milan are going to play each other over here. it'll be hard to call that a friendly
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 27, 2009, 03:14:48 pm
no weekend schedule for the internationals?

ireland and england are both on setanta on sunday. i think holland is on goltv
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on March 27, 2009, 03:17:59 pm
i was thinking about it. pretty expensive for a friendly, though. likely only to see pato and lamps for 45 minutes, but at least there's no mls team involved

but isnt Beckham playing for one of those teams now???? ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 27, 2009, 03:19:52 pm
his loan spell will be over
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 27, 2009, 03:53:02 pm
Sorry, I've been doing my NCAA pool commissioner duties:

SATURDAY, MARCH 28 WORLD CUP QUALIFIERS

10:30am Iran vs Saudi Arabia (FSC - I'm watching this one for the ladies)
11:00am Wales vs Finland (goltv)
12:30pm Russia vs Azerbaijan (FSC)
1:55pm Israel vs Greece (set)
3:00pm Germany vs Lichtenstein (goltv)
3:30pm Slovenia vs Czech Republic (FSC)
4:40pm Portugal vs Sweden (set)
5:00pm Spain vs Turkey (goltv)
6:45pm Montenegro vs Italy (Set)
7:00pm Holland vs Scotland (goltv)
8:30pm Lithuania vs France (Set)
9:00pm USA vs El Salvador (ESPN2 HD)
11:00pm Japan vs Bahrain (FSC)

Sunday, March 29

4:45pm Friendly - England vs Slovakia (set 1st Air)
6:30pm Ireland vs Bulgaria (Set 1st Air)
8:15pm Northern Ireland vs Poland (Set 1st Air)
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Post by: walkonby on March 27, 2009, 04:26:23 pm
i know this is a soccer site . . . but duke? wtf happened?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 28, 2009, 11:33:03 am
wrong thread, but i thought there was a good chance they wouldnt even make it to the sweet 16
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Post by: walkonby on March 28, 2009, 02:55:48 pm
wrong thread, but i thought there was a good chance they wouldnt even make it to the sweet 16

yes i know about the thread . . . i was waiting for van to yell.  and now kansas falls.  i will cry now.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 30, 2009, 07:49:13 pm
smackie, you are slipping:
http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2009/03/fox-soccer-channel-beats-out-espn-for-rights-to-uefa-champions-league-starting-next-season.html
didnt see that one coming
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 31, 2009, 02:44:34 pm
Sorry, today is a state holiday in CA so I took a few days off for a long weekend.  I've been talking to my brother in law about this for two days now.

This is horrible for the game, no doubt about it.  A lot of people who don't follow soccer still watch a champions league game or two, but no casual fan will get FSC (if it's even offered) simply for the champions league.  Given it's limited availability, not yet HD ready, and the horrible announcers, this is just awful.

I did hear a few things, all rumors though:  The final will be on FX in HD if FSC is not HD by ther final, and the FSN's will also broadcast Champions League games giving more available matches on at the same time.

Granted, this doesn't affect me, as DirecTV gives me a ton of FSNs, but, let's just start a list of major metropolitan areas that do not currently have FSN's: San Francisco (Comcast Sports Net), Boston (NESN), New York (YES/SNY), Chicago (CSN), Philapelphia (CSN), Baltimore/Washington DC (MASN), San Diego (Cox Sports).  And that's just off the top of my head.  If you have a shitty cable co you're fucked. 

I didn't even mention how I'm no longer able to watch the CL games at work on ESPN360 (presumably).  This just sucks all around.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 31, 2009, 02:45:37 pm
wrong thread, but i thought there was a good chance they wouldnt even make it to the sweet 16

I picked Nova over Duke.  It was a no brainer.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 31, 2009, 02:50:54 pm
i had it too. i actually had nova in the final four with unc. other side killed me though

fsn plays nice with the comcast sports net, though. i think we get best damn sport show and that crap on csn dc
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 31, 2009, 02:59:40 pm
fsn plays nice with the comcast sports net, though. i think we get best damn sport show and that crap on csn dc

They play nice for filler programming, but do you get any EPL games on CSN?  I know they play them on FSNs.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 31, 2009, 03:10:08 pm
thats a good question, i am not sure. i swear i've seen them listed, but like you i dont really pay attention with setanta and fsc
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 31, 2009, 03:22:57 pm
according to this: http://areyouwatchingthis.com/tv/programs/SH005212620000-English-Premier-League-Soccer/14276944
it looks like msg and some of the csn's carry the prem matches
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Post by: walkonby on March 31, 2009, 03:34:16 pm
(http://www.faniq.com/images/blog/Vitale%20Cinderella3(1).jpg)


UNC BABY!!!!! . . . . . .
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Post by: brennser on March 31, 2009, 08:44:59 pm
shearer in at newcastle
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 01, 2009, 09:12:37 am
as i told smackie last night at least if we go down it wont be boring
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Post by: brennser on April 01, 2009, 05:05:33 pm
Ireland 1 - Italy 1

would have taken this is a heartbeat prior to game but considering Italy had 10 men for 88 minutes can't help but wonder if we couldn;t have pulled off a shocker here
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Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2009, 05:07:26 pm
shearer in at newcastle

I was convinced this was an April Fools joke.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 01, 2009, 05:27:31 pm
its not. worried its too late though
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 01, 2009, 05:35:11 pm
also, i have yet to hear a compelling reason why this could possibly be bad
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Post by: lagas on April 01, 2009, 05:41:56 pm
FYI Bolivia 6 - Argentina 1
ouch, what will Maradona say now....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2009, 06:23:30 pm
FYI Bolivia 6 - Argentina 1
ouch, what will Maradona say now....

Not very much - he's probably already snorted 6 lines by now.  Check that - there is no doubt he will say too much.
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Post by: brennser on April 01, 2009, 06:35:28 pm
shearer in at newcastle

I was convinced this was an April Fools joke.

so was I but when I saw it on multiple sites figured it must be true

that club is cursed
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 01, 2009, 07:32:28 pm
don't know how this proves a curse but ok

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Post by: brennser on April 02, 2009, 05:38:23 am
don't know how this proves a curse but ok



it doesn't, it was a general statement
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 02, 2009, 08:37:33 am
dammit i really wanted to fight about this
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Post by: vansmack on April 02, 2009, 12:02:32 pm
also, i have yet to hear a compelling reason why this could possibly be bad

Roy Keane?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 02, 2009, 12:41:21 pm
saved scumderland from relegation to league 1
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Post by: vansmack on April 02, 2009, 03:32:10 pm
saved scumderland from relegation to league 1

He had a whole season to do it.  Then to avoid it this season, they replaced him.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 02, 2009, 04:01:18 pm
so roy keane isnt a reason that this is a bad thing?

i dont expect shearer to save us

but i certainly didnt expect hughton to either. absolutely nothing to lose here
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Post by: vansmack on April 02, 2009, 04:20:56 pm
OK, how about Eddie Gray at Leeds?

That's a much better example of bringing in a once favorite player (he even had managerial experience!) to save a squad that ended miserably.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 02, 2009, 04:38:01 pm
its already miserable. the toon stands 18th, and we stand to get nothing from our next two games. i mean, the end is pretty much passed

chris hughton does not have any managerial experience either. newcastle needs to win 3/8 when he's won 1 game this year out of (i believe) 11. do you really think he would have pulled it out?

i cant speak for the geordie nation, but ive said since the window closed that i thought we were going down. maybe i will be proven wrong but i cant see 8 games killing the shearer legacy
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 03, 2009, 01:10:23 pm
Saturday, April 4

7:40am Blackburn vs Tottenham (Set)
9:55am Arsenal vs Man City (Set)
10:00am  Newcastle vs Chelsea (FSC)
12:30pm Fulham vs Liverpool (FSC)
6:30pm West Brom vs Stoke City (FSC)
6:45pm West Ham vs Sunderland (Set)
8:30pm Hull vs Portsmouth (Set)


Sunday, April 5

9:55am Everton vs Wigan (Set)
11:00am  Manchester United    vs Aston Villa (FSC)


Do you want me to start listing Coca-Cola Championship games on Setanta too so you can get a sense of how much you might see the Toon next season?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 03, 2009, 01:16:14 pm
And at some point we should probably talk about this:

Ferguson and McGregor Banned for Life from Scotland Squad (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=633796&sec=worldcup2010&cc=5901)

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01378/ferguson_1378329c.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 03, 2009, 01:31:22 pm
Do you want me to start listing Coca-Cola Championship games on Setanta too so you can get a sense of how much you might see the Toon next season?

yes please
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 03, 2009, 01:37:02 pm
And at some point we should probably talk about this:

Ferguson and McGregor Banned for Life from Scotland Squad (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=633796&sec=worldcup2010&cc=5901)

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01378/ferguson_1378329c.jpg)
sounds like something i would do when i was like 21

toon were supposed to be after ferguson in jan too
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Post by: brennser on April 05, 2009, 02:46:34 pm
whoah!!! now THAT was squeaky bum time!!! talk about a dream debut
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Post by: vansmack on April 05, 2009, 05:46:14 pm
whoah!!! now THAT was squeaky bum time!!! talk about a dream debut

I watch a lot of soccer, even delving into some reserve squad matches on MUTV, constantly read about the squad on the internet - you name it.  But I have NEVER heard of the kid, I still can't even pronounce his full name, though I can tell you this - he's my new favorite Italian footballer!

Outside of that, United were shite (save for the heckyl-jeckyl that is Darren Fletcher, who was crap two weeks ago but a stud today).  Very fortunate to get one point, let alone three.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 06, 2009, 12:39:18 pm
i didnt think you guys would pull it out, honestly. but those are three points that champs pick up and second and third place teams drop. pretty fun to watch

if liverpool win the league and toon go down, i might have to switch to serie a next year
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Post by: vansmack on April 06, 2009, 02:34:13 pm
Do you want me to start listing Coca-Cola Championship games on Setanta too so you can get a sense of how much you might see the Toon next season?

yes please

I'm watching the Mets and Reds on ESPN360 and I see that they play the Coca Cola Championship games on 360 as well (Birmingham City vs Wolves), so you've got that going for you.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 06, 2009, 02:38:13 pm
cool. going down wouldnt be so bad if i could still watch every game
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Post by: vansmack on April 06, 2009, 03:01:36 pm
Tuesday, April 6

2:45pm Manchester United vs FC Porto (ESPN2)
2:45pm Villarreal vs Arsenal (Setanta)


Wednesday, April 7

2:45pm Liverpool vs Chelsea (ESPN2)
2:45pm Barcelona vs Bayern Munich (Setanta)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 06, 2009, 03:27:51 pm
Fora Bara!
we are playing quite well this year. still afraid of Bayern Munich, even after their 5-1 defeat on Saturday.
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Post by: vansmack on April 07, 2009, 04:36:17 pm
Dear Alex,

Please stop playing Neville and O'Shea at the same time.

Thanks,

vansmack
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Post by: Barcelona on April 07, 2009, 06:49:53 pm
I don't understand how they played on Sunday knowing they were playing today against Porto. Is it tv rights or something they could do nothing about?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 08, 2009, 08:50:07 am
yeah, i'd blame sky

they had man u/villa, 'pool/fulham and the debut of shearer. an embarassment of riches
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2009, 12:02:13 pm
According to one of the announcers, I think it was Tommy, Fergie had the option of moving the game to Saturday and chose not to.  I can't see this being true, and if it is, a very questionable decision.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 08, 2009, 12:17:58 pm
tommy also said that man u hadnt had an irish player in forever and then named like a dozen during the match last leg

but barca would be happy to know he has a HUGE mancrush on messi
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 08, 2009, 12:30:28 pm
also i would assume they'd have to switch that match with either the toon or pool match and have to get chelski or liverpool to agree. i sure wouldnt
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2009, 01:01:52 pm
tommy also said that man u hadnt had an irish player in forever and then named like a dozen during the match last leg

I remember that.  I think his comment was totally taken out of context (something along the lines of "great" or "through the ranks"), but his defense only served to confuse the issue even more.
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Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2009, 02:58:03 pm
but barca would be happy to know he has a HUGE mancrush on messi

Thankfully, he's not doing that game today.  I opted to watch Munich/Barca because I don't think I can sit through another Chelsea/Liverpool snoozer...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 08, 2009, 03:04:45 pm
i'm not going to get a chance to watch any footie tonight, but i would have done the same
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Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2009, 05:49:04 pm
i'm not going to get a chance to watch any footie tonight, but i would have done the same

30 minutes in I switched to the all-England affair.  And here I thought 2-2 to Porto was bad...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 08, 2009, 08:47:31 pm
According to one of the announcers, I think it was Tommy, Fergie had the option of moving the game to Saturday and chose not to.  I can't see this being true, and if it is, a very questionable decision.

its was true - sky offered to switch it to noon Sat - SAF declined because he wanted the extra rest from the midweek internationals
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 09, 2009, 09:19:14 am
ah that makes sense

i saw a bunch of 'pool fans laughing at you guys yesterday morning. karma i suppose
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Post by: brennser on April 09, 2009, 12:51:44 pm
we were shocking again against Porto - was in Dublin for a quick trip and saw all the Dub Liverpool fans getting on planes yesterday morning to watch the game - then immigration at Dulles kindly had the game on while we were waiting so got to see Chelsea go ahead!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 09, 2009, 12:57:53 pm
when we came back from dublin last summer immigration had the euro final on. my wife had a good time laughing at me watching the floor for 20 minutes so i didnt spoil the dvred result
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2009, 01:16:05 pm
when we came back from dublin last summer immigration had the euro final on. my wife had a good time laughing at me watching the floor for 20 minutes so i didnt spoil the dvred result

Been there, done that.  On many occasions, actually.  I've also gotten quite adept at covering the ESPN bottom line lately (even when I'm a guest at someone else's house).
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 09, 2009, 01:35:06 pm
i never thought i'd grow to dislike the bottom line, but the dvr has changed all that
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Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2009, 04:28:55 pm
Clever bastards:

ESPN in talks to buy Setanta (http://www.epltalk.com/how-espn-could-get-the-champions-league-back-and-much-more/5745)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Venerable Bede on April 09, 2009, 04:44:56 pm
Clever bastards:

ESPN in talks to buy Setanta (http://www.epltalk.com/how-espn-could-get-the-champions-league-back-and-much-more/5745)
plus, setanta broadcasts aussie rules. . . .so far, i have not been able to make the sale to the wife that we need to sign up for setanta to watch aussie rules, but if it goes to espn, then i would guess that would become part of their sports package.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2009, 04:57:05 pm
$15 a month to watch Aussie Rules football?  You're mad.

But yes, ESPN would move The U to where classic is, move Classic to the Sports Pack tier, change it's name and broadcast EPL, UEFA and Aussie Rules football saving all of us $15 a month.
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Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2009, 04:44:41 pm
Saturday, April 11

7:40am Liverpool vs Blackburn Rovers (Set)
9:40am Sunderland vs Manchester United (Set)
10:00am Chelsea    vs Bolton (FSC)
12:30pm Stoke City vs Newcastle (FSC)
6:45pm Tottenham Hotspur vs West Ham (Set)
8:30pm Middlesbrough vs Hull (Set)


Sunday, April 12

12:00am Wigan vs Arsenal (FSC)
11:00am Manchester City vs Fulham (FSC)
12:30pm Aston Villa vs Everton (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 12, 2009, 08:19:41 pm
whoah!!! now THAT was squeaky bum time!!! talk about a dream debut

I watch a lot of soccer, even delving into some reserve squad matches on MUTV, constantly read about the squad on the internet - you name it.  But I have NEVER heard of the kid, I still can't even pronounce his full name, though I can tell you this - he's my new favorite Italian footballer!
how much do you love this guy now
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 13, 2009, 12:32:59 pm
Totally unbelievable.  He's still my favorite Italian footballer.  And I'm glad I didn't make the prediction "He'll probably never score a goal again..."

When I first saw his second goal, I though it just deflected off him, but when I saw the replay, I think he actually intended to do that, which is incredible. 

Outside of that, it's getting really hard to watch United with this form.  They're terrible right now.  Just awful.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 13, 2009, 01:34:00 pm
they really are limping to the end

it really hit me how horrid this season has been for the toon when i was pretty surprised to get a draw at stoke
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 13, 2009, 01:37:45 pm
Tuesday, April 14

2:45pm Chelsea vs Liverpool (ESPN2)
2:45pm Bayern Munich vs Barcelona (Set)


Wednesday, April 15

2:45pm Porto FC vs Manchester United (ESPN2)
2:45pm Arsenal vs Villareal (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 13, 2009, 02:15:04 pm
Outside of that, it's getting really hard to watch United with this form.  They're terrible right now.  Just awful.
agreed, I have been watching the last 4 or 5 games through my fingers.....awful stuff - what the hell has happened to Vidic??
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 14, 2009, 10:38:40 am
id say the over under on me losing interest and just fast forwarding to the goals on the chelzzzz/pool match tonight is 25'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 14, 2009, 11:01:16 am
even as a man u fan I find the inclusion of 5 United players out of 6 total nominees for player of the year a bit odd
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 14, 2009, 02:49:56 pm
even as a man u fan I find the inclusion of 5 United players out of 6 total nominees for player of the year a bit odd

Agreed.  Especially when one of them isn't Kiko.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 14, 2009, 02:56:45 pm
id say the over under on me losing interest and just fast forwarding to the goals on the chelzzzz/pool match tonight is 25'

I think when you see Liverpool's starting 11 you won't even last 25 minutes.

Having said that - I'd stick it out the 25 minutes.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 14, 2009, 04:49:40 pm
id say the over under on me losing interest and just fast forwarding to the goals on the chelzzzz/pool match tonight is 25'

I think when you see Liverpool's starting 11 you won't even last 25 minutes.

Having said that - I'd stick it out the 25 minutes.

good lord!! who'd have thunk it?? a game for the ages
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 15, 2009, 09:01:09 am
alex looked like cacapa and both keepers were shocking. glad i recorded it

liverpools first two goals were gifts
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 15, 2009, 04:28:43 pm
do not click on this link if you are recording the Man U game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyrqAinIvxE

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 15, 2009, 04:30:39 pm
no longer available
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 15, 2009, 04:33:24 pm
no longer available
this one works (for now)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzSxNruYZqQ
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 15, 2009, 04:34:57 pm
awesome. thanks!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 16, 2009, 10:20:43 am
interesting glimpse at Micheal Owens "personality"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqOxNspUPyE

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 16, 2009, 10:42:52 am
i cant stand mike as a person to be honest. i mean, there are bigger cunts in the sporting world, but something about him just rubs me the wrong way. thought it was crazy that keegan named him captain, it should be nicky butt all day

southall looks like kenny powers in that clip. good zong too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 17, 2009, 02:09:56 pm
Saturday, April 18

10:00am   Aston Villa vs West Ham (Set)
10:00am Stoke City v Blackburn (FSC)
12:00pm   FA Cup Semi Final - Arsenal vs Chelsea (Set)
4:30pm Middlesbrough v Fulham (FSC)
5:00pm   Sunderland vs Hull (Set)
8:30pm   Portsmouth vs Bolton (Set)


Sunday, April 19

8:25am Tottenham vs Newcastle (Set)
11:00am FA Cup Semi-final: Manchester United vs Everton (FSC)
11:00pm Manchester City v West Brom (FSC)

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 17, 2009, 02:59:27 pm
i would expect my posts to have sour disposition on monday

just a heads up
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 17, 2009, 03:15:18 pm
looking forward to the arsenal chelsea game, now I need chelsea to start playing bad and get tired for the champions league.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 18, 2009, 07:19:43 pm
More news on the FSC deal with UEFA:

Champions League games on the channel will not be in high-def until the start of the first knockout stage in February 2010

In addition, games from Italy?s Serie A, for which FSC has four live windows each weekend, will have games in high-def. Likewise, two English Premier League games now covered by Sky are produced in HD and available in the United States. That?s the Saturday 12:30 p.m. (Eastern) match and the 11 a.m. (Eastern) Sunday games (presumably starting near the end of 2009)

Fox?s HD format and production will be more akin to the true or ?native? HD, as the industry calls it, used in recent years by HDNet (which is no longer carrying M.L.S. or N.H.L. games) than most of the HD productions available to date on ESPN, which Sternberg called ?up-converted.? That is, a standard-definition feed that is enhanced.

EPLTALK (http://www.epltalk.com/more-details-about-foxs-champions-league-tv-rights/5936)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 20, 2009, 01:05:19 pm
Tuesday, April 21

2:55pm Liverpool vs Arsenal (Set)
5:00pm Stoke City v Blackburn (FSC)



Wednesday, April 22

2:55pm Man Utd vs Portsmouth (Set)
3:00pm Chelsea v Everton (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 20, 2009, 01:38:05 pm
not ready to talk about the semi i assume?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 20, 2009, 02:03:41 pm
not ready to talk about the semi i assume?

Not much to talk about really, and I don't believe it was the pitch.

Fergie put in two strong central defenders to keep Everton from scoring on set pieces and  gave the kids a shot (which I understand) and sadly they weren't rewarded in PKs.  They deserved a draw and they got it.  I mean the first XI were: Anderson (21), Gibson (21), Welbeck (18), Right Back Da Silva and Left Back Da Silva (18), Macheda (17).  I was a little surprised we didn't see Tosic in for Park.

I would rank the Cups:

Champions League / Prem League

A distant third:  FA Cup

Given that United have been poor over the last 3 weeks, he needed to do what he did.  Now, if we fail to win the Prem or the Champions League, then maybe they gave away the piece of hardware they had the best chance of winning, but I don't believe that to be the case.

I will say this - the future looks bright in Manchester. Welbeck and Kiko were really good together.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 20, 2009, 03:25:59 pm
the full back twins crack me up. they even play opposite sides

thought the toon were bad again against spurs. really there isnt much to say other than hull and boro have the harder run in. its the last 3 home games or die
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 20, 2009, 05:40:33 pm
the full back twins crack me up. they even play opposite sides

I had never seen Left Back Da Silva play until yesterday, and now I'm even more convinced they are the same player.  Hilarious.  The only reason he hasn't played is because Evra has been so strong.

Even the announcer was talking about the only way to tell them apart is that one is married and wears a ring, but on the pitch, you aren't allowed to wear a ring.  Could you imagine if one gets suspended and wears his brothers jersey to play?  The comedy is endless here...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 21, 2009, 11:22:08 am
you know rafa will make the accusation at some point

cant believe one is married
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 21, 2009, 09:55:33 pm
Two crackers in a row...

I just want to remind folks that Arshavin is Cup Tied.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 22, 2009, 08:48:21 am
which makes it even sillier that wenger didnt play him in the fa cup semi last weekend

he's pretty fun to watch though. good thing fat ash wouldnt spend the 9m or whatever to get him back in january 08

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 22, 2009, 12:59:19 pm
Other than Arshavin, Arsenal looked like shit.  That backup keeper made me feel like Liverpool could score every time down the pitch.  He's fun to watch, but in a completely different way than Arshavin.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 22, 2009, 01:11:02 pm
i really think if givens stupid ass would have waited until the summer, arsenal would have come in for him
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Post by: brennser on April 22, 2009, 01:50:22 pm
i really think if givens stupid ass would have waited until the summer, arsenal would have come in for him

he really is a moron - talk about out of the frying pan, into the fire
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2009, 01:58:22 pm
Saturday, April 25

9:30am Hull vs Liverpool (Set)
10:00am West Ham v Chelsea (FSC)
12:30am Manchester United v Tottenham (FSC)
4:30pm Bolton v Aston Villa (FSC)
6:45pm Everton vs Man City (Set)
8:30pm West Brom vs Sunderland (Set)


Sunday, April 26

8:25am Arsenal vs Middlesbrough (Set)
11:00am Blackburn v Wigan (FSC)


Monday, April 27

3:00pm Newcastle vs Portsmouth (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 24, 2009, 02:48:09 pm
i hate monday matches
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Vas Deferens on April 24, 2009, 02:49:21 pm
you love this thread, don't ya?  ;D

i hate monday matches
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 24, 2009, 02:57:47 pm
ok
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2009, 03:19:42 pm
i hate monday matches

This is a good weekend to take your Mrs out for a Sunday brunch...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 24, 2009, 03:31:58 pm
and miss blackburn vs wigan?

just hope the pens take care of the flyers on saturday because if i have to watch game 7 and the relegation 6 pointer in one night, my head might explode

and not in the good way
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2009, 03:54:37 pm
I used to not like Frank.  But this was bitchen.

Frank Lampard radio row outburst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEH7G8yFVUw)

And it's good to have you back Keano:

 "Until an ex-team-mate of mine from '94 goes on and really achieves something, then I would not agree about them being a successful manager.

"You need a bit more than some of those managers have achieved yet.

"Who are the good managers you are talking about? Sparky (Hughes) and Brucie have not won a trophy have they?

"They have potential and Steve Bruce has had a good season. But Steve Bruce has been manager how many years?

"Sparky has done a brilliant job at Blackburn but is facing different challenges at Man City. We are all facing different challenges."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 26, 2009, 12:41:46 am
Astonishing.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 26, 2009, 11:24:04 am
great match
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 27, 2009, 01:26:47 pm
Good luck today, man.  I don't want to say this is it for the Toon, but a loss today would require a miracle to keep them up. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 27, 2009, 01:32:48 pm
completely. its going to take 7 points at least and a loss here means getting at least a point from villa and pool, as well as beating fulham

lets put it this way, a loss today and i'm going to make a decision on my football viewing plan for next year

wont get a chance to watch this until like 8 tonight though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 27, 2009, 01:38:28 pm
lets put it this way, a loss today and i'm going to make a decision on my football viewing plan for next year

wont get a chance to watch this until like 8 tonight though

Thanks for the warning and duly noted.  I was going to watch it at my desk but now I'll wait and watch it before the ducks game tonight.

Let me know when I should start making a pitch for you becoming a Wolves supporter....I heart wolves.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 27, 2009, 01:42:21 pm
i have a couple of ideas in my head, and i'm sure i'll bring them up here for discussion. in fact it could be my longest post ever
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 27, 2009, 01:55:52 pm
That sounds like fun.  I do recall making a Mailbag for my participation in this quest for an EPL team. (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060719)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 27, 2009, 02:09:23 pm
ah yes, the column where the sports guy said that nufc was named after the broon, he picked spurs as his team and (maybe the worst) had pretorres liverpool number 2. i felt bad for him on how bad he bottled it
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 27, 2009, 03:05:19 pm
i couldnt help but sneek a peak at the toon's starting 11

harper
beye - colo - bassong - enrique
- smith - butt - duff-
- owen-
dukes - oba

no jonas or guthrie is kind of a bummer
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 28, 2009, 08:45:10 am
of all people to miss a one on one with the keeper, i would think mike owen would be the last

he's has to be #2 in the blame game behind ashley
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 28, 2009, 01:19:28 pm
of all people to miss a one on one with the keeper, i would think mike owen would be the last

he's has to be #2 in the blame game behind ashley

That play summed up this season at the Toon rather succinctly, in my eyes.  That's the difference between being mid-table and at the bottom.  Sure, Portsmouth were rather unlucky on occasion, but Owen's play was not unlucky, just poor execution.

I'm sorry, man, but I just don't see you staying up now.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 28, 2009, 01:47:12 pm
i just didnt see us staying up 3 months ago, so its hardly a shock to me

i suppose winning the last two home games would do it, but i'm not banking on it

came out with a well picked side and decent, attacking tactics. the midfield cannot pass the ball for shit though. had mike owen with the ball in front of him and just the keeper to beat and he absolutely blows it. oba can at least point to his injury and dukes has hardly played, but seriously, i hope capello loses your number mike
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 28, 2009, 02:57:38 pm
Sorry, I got busy and forgot to put this up yesterday:

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Tuesday, April 28


2:45pm Barcelona vs Chelsea (ESPN2)

Wednesday, April 29

2:45pm Manchester United vs Arsenal (ESPN2)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 28, 2009, 03:29:39 pm
i'm pretty excited, actually.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 28, 2009, 05:26:46 pm
Not good, Marquez badly injured and Puyol out in Stanford Bridge. The good thing is that Chelsea will not be able to play with the 11 players inside their half, that will open the game for Messi, Henry, Etoo, Iniesta and Xavi. Another bad side for Barcelona is that on Saturday we are playing against Real Madrid, too many impotant games in one week. However, more optimistic than last year against Man Utd. where we also finished 0-0 in the first leg.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 29, 2009, 06:57:59 pm
I've never been so displeased with a 1-0 victory in the first leg.  The scoreline does not adequately reflect just how dominant Man United were. That was the best I've seen United look in months, and while I'm happy with the lead heading to The Emirates, it really should have been 3-0 at the least.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2009, 12:03:17 pm
chelsea killed my desire to watch football after work yesterday. terrible team

the goal at anfield on sunday is to lose by 2 or less
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2009, 12:45:03 pm
chelsea killed my desire to watch football after work yesterday. terrible team

Agreed.  Probably the worst semi I've seen in my life. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2009, 12:56:26 pm
one day i'll learn that every time i watch chelski in the champions league, it makes me hate the competition

barca/madrid is on gol at 2 eastern on saturday, by the way
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2009, 01:49:32 pm

barca/madrid is on gol at 2 eastern on saturday, by the way


Saturday, May 2

7:40am Middlesbrough vs Man Utd (Set)
10:00am Chelsea vs Fulham (Set)
10:00am Portsmouth v Arsenal (FSC)
12:00pm Stoke City v West Ham (FSC)
4:30pm Wigan v Bolton (FSC)
6:45pm Man City vs Blackburn (Set)
8:30pm Tottenham vs West Brom (Set)


Sunday, May 3

7:30am Liverpool vs Newcastle (Set)
11:00am Sunderland v Everton (FSC)


Monday, May 4

3:00pm Aston Villa vs Hull (Set)


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2009, 01:55:37 pm
cmon you red devils and villans
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 02, 2009, 05:05:28 pm
Not even in my dreams... 2-6!!! now, let's continue in Stanford Bridge on Wednesday.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 02, 2009, 07:12:55 pm
fantastic match
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 03, 2009, 01:18:33 pm
Agreed.  Best match I've seen this weekend.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 04, 2009, 10:38:18 am
whereas the pool/toon match was one of the worst ive seen all season

didnt think i could get mad unless it was 5 nil or worse. thanks joey barton. now fuck off
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 05, 2009, 09:00:16 am
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/may/05/manchester-united-franck-ribery-bayern-munich-cristiano-ronaldo
 :o

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 05, 2009, 10:31:02 am
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/may/05/manchester-united-franck-ribery-bayern-munich-cristiano-ronaldo
 :o

:o indeed - is he that good? (leaving aside the is anyone that good question)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 05, 2009, 10:35:31 am
i think he'd go well with how fergie likes to play but he's 26. not a whole lot of sell on value on the investment after a couple of years
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 05, 2009, 11:51:49 am
He's good, really good actually, but he's not 60m good.  I wouldn't mind him to replace Ronaldo at all, although I'd take 75m and Wesley Sneijder instead of 100m.

Sneijder, Carrick and Ribery?  Mmmmm..... 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 05, 2009, 11:52:51 am
I shouldn't have to post this, but...

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Tuesday, May 4


2:45pm Manchester United vs Arsenal (ESPN2)

Wednesday, May 6

2:45pm Barcelona vs Chelsea (ESPN2)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 05, 2009, 04:39:54 pm
I feel really, really badly for Darren Fletcher.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 05, 2009, 05:02:07 pm
I feel really, really badly for Darren Fletcher.

yeah, apart from that, shockingly easy.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2009, 12:20:57 am
My favorite comment so far:

"Arsenal went down faster than Hatton!"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2009, 08:46:29 am
not looking good for setanta (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/5281486/Fears-grow-for-Setantas-future.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2009, 12:56:22 pm
not looking good for setanta (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/5281486/Fears-grow-for-Setantas-future.html)

ESPN!
ESPN!
ESPN!
ESPN!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2009, 01:03:15 pm
if the toon go down
and fsc had hd, and setanta does not
its going to be really hard for me to justify paying for setanta
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2009, 01:34:26 pm
its going to be really hard for me to justify paying for setanta

Setanta is the only way to see the Coca-Cola Championship....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2009, 01:45:37 pm
true

but they only play around 1 game a month. if every single ccc game that setanta plays involves toon, then thats still 36 matches i have to watch online. might as well watch them all online and save $150 unless i get into rugby or something
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2009, 01:58:17 pm
Setanta is playing the first leg of this playoff on Saturday at 7:40am:

Millwall vs Leeds

I'm pulling for Millwall, but who would you rather face next year?



Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2009, 02:03:42 pm
good question

the cynic in me wants to keep leeds down, but the sport fan in me says playing bigger teams is more exciting. as far as milwall goes are they going to be easier to beat next year? maybe. should i worry about easy points? i dunno
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2009, 02:10:06 pm
after thinking about for like 5 minutes i cant root for leeds in anything
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2009, 02:52:02 pm
after thinking about for like 5 minutes i cant root for leeds in anything

I have befriended one of the American investors in Millwall and will be pulling for them.  If he can get them back to top flight football I will be in a good position for a job (if I decide to make the move).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2009, 02:59:32 pm
do you really want the millwall supporters of all people starting threads with THE DIRECTOR OF LEGAL AFFAIRS IS AMERICAN AND A MANUSA SUPPORTER or SEND THEM BACK TO SAN FRANCISCO

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2009, 03:00:01 pm
CALIFORNIA MAFIA OUT
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Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2009, 03:09:34 pm
do you really want the millwall supporters of all people starting threads with THE DIRECTOR OF LEGAL AFFAIRS IS AMERICAN AND A MANUSA SUPPORTER or SEND THEM BACK TO SAN FRANCISCO

Of course I do!  Before he had even seen a game at The Den, he decided to take his family to see his new team.  I asked him where he was going to sit.  He said the owners box of course.  I said, OK, don't take your kids the first time and expect to be hassled like you have never been hassled before.  And whatever you do, don't wear a suit - not even a tie.

He ignored me, his little girls ended up crying, and I became de facto voice of reason in his home when it came to his football team.  He was asking the wrong questions - how do I relate to the English working class?, etc.

I told him there was only one way for these folks to forget you are an American - get them into top flight football.  Spend some money on young guys and veterans to teach them.  Work your way up through the leagues and they will love you.  Fail, and they might try to kill you. 

I think that made him realize what he was getting in to. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2009, 03:18:49 pm
i like how the first paragraph of their wiki acknowleges that they have the most violent supporters in english football
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2009, 04:38:38 pm
However, more optimistic than last year against Man Utd. where we also finished 0-0 in the first leg.

Somebody had better check on Barca.  He may need reviving.
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Post by: stu47 on May 06, 2009, 04:43:01 pm
unbelievable........
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2009, 04:43:30 pm
i guess inesta provided said reviving

pretty happy about the final. its what the people want
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2009, 04:50:34 pm
I've already taken the day off.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2009, 04:55:45 pm
i guess inesta provided said reviving

Can we talk about the audacity of him kicking the ball off the outside of his foot into the top corner with no time left?  I might try that in practice (and never convert), and he might try that early in the game, but with virtually no time left?  Incredible chutzpa.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 06, 2009, 07:15:17 pm
one of the best days in my life, so great to face Man. Utd. in Rome at the end of the month.

Really, reading the live coverage in BBC and some papers in the UK it didn't seem that the anger towards the referee was that bad during the game. I think it was more the frustration of having had so close and then losing it in the last second. With one player more how can you put Belletti in and take Drogba out? you are playing at home against 10 players!

Really, if the referee wanted Barcelona to move to the final, he would have never shown the red card to Abidal, to me that was not even a yellow card. If the ref wanted to have Barcelona pass to the next round, he would have shown a red card to Essien for a nasty tackle to Iniesta. As for the penalties, to me, the only one was the hand by Pique, and I am still not sure. I hate seeing the Chelsea players and Hidding saying what they are saying, they laughed at Barcelona players for complaining about the referee after the first game, but today Chelsea is doing the exact same thing. Ballack, get a life!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 07, 2009, 07:00:54 pm
Saturday, May 9

7:40am Coca-Cola League 1 Playoff - 1st Leg: Millwall vs Leeds Utd (Set)
9:55am Fulham vs Aston Villa (Set)
10:00am Everton v Tottenham (FSC)
12:30pm West Ham v Liverpool (FSC)
4:30pm Blackburn v Portsmouth (FSC)
5:00pm Hull vs Stoke (Set)
6:45pm Bolton vs Sunderland (Set)


Sunday, May 10

8:25am Man Utd vs Man City (Set)
11:00am Arsenal v Chelsea (FSC)


Monday, May 11

3:00pm Newcastle vs Middlesbrough (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 08, 2009, 12:47:44 pm
sunday looks pretty good, actually

bummer that all of the relagation matches are late. would be nice to have one on at 10
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 08, 2009, 12:53:46 pm
sunday looks pretty good, actually

Thankfully, I'm not on speaking terms with any of the potential mother's of my children that I've never seen, so I get to enjoy both matches on Mother's day uninterrupted.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 08, 2009, 01:06:02 pm
i doubt i'll go to my mother in law's before 1 so i'll get to see both hopefully. dvr and watch the second when i get back, maybe
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2009, 08:24:05 am
today is the season. somehow i have to fit watching that game around the pens tonight. should be sports overload
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 11, 2009, 12:12:27 pm
Yes, good luck today - on both accounts.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2009, 12:15:35 pm
thanks. you should also wish my wife luck in dealing with my craziness
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2009, 01:42:49 pm
looks like wheater and pogetez are out for them, but no martins for the toon. cmon mike owen
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 12, 2009, 08:35:48 am
i jumped so high after oba's goal my cell phone went flying out of my pocket. great substitution al
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 12, 2009, 11:53:21 am
It was awesome.  Even Smackette enjoyed it after she realized what was at stake.  She was loving the crowd - she asked why are they singing so hard for a last place team?  Once I explained them getting regulated she said "Fans like that don't deserve to be relegated."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 12, 2009, 11:58:23 am
i thought viduka was the man of the match, but man newcastle has missed danny guthrie. really think he's been missed more this season than a lot of observers mention
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 12, 2009, 12:03:13 pm
also, you married well
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 12, 2009, 12:25:16 pm
I see Hull in the relegation zone? didn't they start very well?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 12, 2009, 12:31:45 pm
6th at christmas, and something like 7 points since
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 12, 2009, 06:57:41 pm
Wednesday, May 13

3:00PM Wigan vs Man Utd (Set)
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Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2009, 05:16:34 pm
"Fergie sign him up.  Fergie sign him up..."
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Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2009, 07:17:49 pm
Thursday, May 14

3:00PM Coca-Cola League 1 Playoff - 2nd Leg: Leeds vs Millwall (Set)
Millwall leads 1-0 on Aggregate
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Post by: brennser on May 14, 2009, 07:19:20 am
"Fergie sign him up.  Fergie sign him up..."
1 more point....
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Post by: vansmack on May 15, 2009, 04:21:42 pm
Saturday, May 16

7:40am Man Utd vs Arsenal (Set)
9:40am Newcastle vs Fulham (Set)
10:00am Tottenham v Manchester City (FSC)
12:00pm Everton v West Ham (FSC)
6:30pm Stoke City v Wigan (FSC)
6:45pm Middlesbrough vs Aston Villa (Set)
8:30pm Bolton vs Hull (Set)


Sunday, May 17

8:25am West Brom vs Liverpool (Set)
11:00am Chelsea v Blackburn (FSC)


Monday, May 18

3:00pm Portsmouth vs Sunderland (Set)
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Post by: vansmack on May 16, 2009, 01:12:58 pm
This just in: Rafa insists Liverpool still have a chance.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 16, 2009, 02:01:42 pm
it is a fact, i bet

whatever, i hate sports today
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Post by: brennser on May 16, 2009, 05:44:02 pm
18
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 19, 2009, 11:51:32 am
it all comes down to the last day

we all knew it would

i've had a headache all week thinking about it. of course silly setanta doesnt have their tv listings up yet, but i would wager the match would be on live there (man u/hull is live on fsc)

cmon you junior red devils
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Post by: vansmack on May 19, 2009, 12:28:04 pm
Fortunately for you, there's nobody on the Hull squad trying to play his way on to United's squad the way Tevez did to keep West Ham up two years ago.  However, Fergie does like Phil and hates Shearer.

Draw for Hull and loss for Sunderland - win and you stay up.  Simple as that.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 19, 2009, 12:38:30 pm
pretty much. villa have little to play for and have 0 form. mo'n supposedly loves scumderland for some god awful reason
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Post by: vansmack on May 19, 2009, 06:13:46 pm
If were a Toon fan, how would I set up my TVs to watch the two live matches, then, could I avoid the third result and force myself to sit through it if I knew it decided my fate?  Oh, the joys...

Sunday, May 24

7:55am Coca-Cola League 1 - Final: Millwall vs Scunthorpe
10:55am Aston Villa vs Newcastle (Set)
11:00am Hull City v Manchester United (FSC)
1:00pm Sunderland vs Chelsea (Set)
1:00pm West Ham v Middlesbrough (FSC)
2:45pm Arsenal vs Stoke (Set)
4:30pm Blackburn vs West Brom (Set)
6:15pm Man City vs Bolton (Set)
8:00pm Fulham vs Everton (Set)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 20, 2009, 09:10:14 am
toon is on set, so they'll spoil the third match for sure

as far as the two live matches at once...now you have my brain working
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 21, 2009, 01:39:57 pm
next question:
should i watch this in my shearer shirt or geordie style (shirtless)
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Post by: vansmack on May 21, 2009, 02:31:28 pm
next question:
should i watch this in my shearer shirt or geordie style (shirtless)

I would wear the luckiest article of clothing I owned...if that's your birthday suit - so be it.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 21, 2009, 02:56:46 pm
good point. i dont think the toon have luck no matter what i wear, though

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Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2009, 12:41:12 pm
So no Beye or Bassong.  Are you hoping to have Enrique back at least?

I say play Viduka and Owen upfront with Martin out wide and go for a shootout...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 22, 2009, 12:59:39 pm
one or the other would have been ok. seeing colo and taylor in the center of defense makes me nervous, though

really think that lvenkrands needs a run out, either on the wing or up top. i kind of fear that enrique will play and shearer will stick duff on the left side. dunno what all of these managers have seen in him since he came to the toon
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Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2009, 04:38:30 pm
Is it safe to assume you will be watching the games live on Sunday so I can text you?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 23, 2009, 10:44:54 am
yeah, even if i get shit canned during the pens game tonight, i'm setting the alarm
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 23, 2009, 10:57:24 am
oh and owen isnt likely to play

surprising
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Post by: vansmack on May 26, 2009, 03:22:34 pm
I'm starting a new campaign.  It's the "Bring Back the Toon" campaign.

I'm starting by loaning Man United's 3rd string to Newcastle.  That should be enough.  If only I had thought of this in January, you could be watching the Premiere League next season...
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Post by: brennser on May 26, 2009, 03:46:22 pm
riiiight, and this has NOTHING to do with the fact he's on 70 grand a week and couldn;t hope to even get half of it at another club


DAMIEN DUFF is preparing for life in the Championship after pledging his future to Newcastle United following their shock relegation.

"I'm as loyal as they come, whether the gaffer stays or goes," said Duff. "I'd love to try to get us back up. I've loved working with him (Shearer); it's been a proper, proper football club for eight weeks and it's about time.
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Post by: vansmack on May 26, 2009, 03:54:26 pm
I was shocked when I read there was no clause in the Newcastle contracts that required reduced wages should the squad be relegated.  There's gonna be major fallout on Tyneside this summer.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 26, 2009, 03:59:11 pm
there arent clauses like that on players making 50k and up for any premier side i would wager. maybe a couple here and there. i would guess that duff wont be around with out a wage reduction. beye and steven tayor say they will stick around, though i'm not sure any of them really will

really trying to make money in two straight transfer windows with an already shite squad is bad enough. trying to go the whole season without a manager on top of that is almost laughable. selling milner for 12m seemed like good business if you buy more players. a fat kevin nolan and the even worse taylor werent going to cut it.

i could rant about the players, but frankly we'll be rid of all of them soon enough

if i could still watch matches i could see that as silver lining, but i just cant at this point. its the end of the footballing world, and i've seen it since the february 1. i was mad then, now its just a numbness
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 26, 2009, 03:59:53 pm
i would guess of the regular starters maybe 4 left next year. tops
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Post by: brennser on May 26, 2009, 05:17:41 pm
if i could still watch matches i could see that as silver lining, but i just cant at this point. its the end of the footballing world, and i've seen it since the february 1. i was mad then, now its just a numbness

and belated commiserations by the way - you called it way before everyone else - I still couldn't believe a club that 'big' could go down until about a month ago
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Post by: vansmack on May 26, 2009, 05:30:47 pm
I shouldn't have to post this, but here you go:



Wednesday, May 26

2:45pm Barcelona vs Manchester United (ESPNHD)



I will not be on the board at all tomorrow.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 26, 2009, 05:41:41 pm
good luck to you all tomorrow. i'll end up watching it at 8 at night as usual i am sure
if i could still watch matches i could see that as silver lining, but i just cant at this point. its the end of the footballing world, and i've seen it since the february 1. i was mad then, now its just a numbness

and belated commiserations by the way - you called it way before everyone else - I still couldn't believe a club that 'big' could go down until about a month ago
thanks
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Post by: Barcelona on May 26, 2009, 10:00:25 pm
Really, really nervous here. My brother and some friends are already in Rome. I have to watch it form Haiti. not sure what to do before the game, difficult to work. afraid on Manchester United, very, very afraid, we have a weak defense tomorrow against these great players United has. Let's hope for the better!

Fora Bara!
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Post by: sweetcell on May 27, 2009, 12:13:58 pm
will the game be re-played later tonight?  i can't skip out of work today (just came back from a 4-day weekend), but would love to watch it later tonight.  i don't have access to dvr or slingbox or anything of the type, unfortunately.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2009, 12:21:38 pm
it usually is
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Post by: sweetcell on May 27, 2009, 01:55:19 pm
got it: ESPN2 (and ESPN2HD) @ 11 pm EDT. 

edit: i was a verizon DSL subscriber 2+ years ago, looks like it's still valid for espn360 login!  so now i have to choose between not getting anything done this afternoon and watching the game on a web stream (relatively decent video), or keeping it in my pants until 11 pm.  grrrrrr.  thoughts?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2009, 02:31:24 pm
i dvred it, but i would totally watch the stream if i wasnt up to my eyeballs in work
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Post by: sonickteam2 on May 27, 2009, 04:07:23 pm
got it: ESPN2 (and ESPN2HD) @ 11 pm EDT. 

edit: i was a verizon DSL subscriber 2+ years ago, looks like it's still valid for espn360 login!  so now i have to choose between not getting anything done this afternoon and watching the game on a web stream (relatively decent video), or keeping it in my pants until 11 pm.  grrrrrr.  thoughts?

its just a soccer game man. you can wait til 11pm. or how about do what i am doing and just check the score every 20 minutes.  (i'll keep the score to myself)
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Post by: vansmack on May 27, 2009, 04:48:08 pm
Barca were perfect.

Fuckers.
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Post by: lagas on May 27, 2009, 05:10:53 pm
wrong, Manchester United wasn't in the game, what a terrible performance
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Post by: Barcelona on May 27, 2009, 08:22:35 pm
Probably one of the best days in my life, this is like watching a live show with the Arcade Fire, the Pixies, the Who, (early) Fleetwood Mac, Band of Horses, Talking Heads, Grandaddy, My Morning Jacket, Jonathan Richman and the Modern Lovers, Peter Tosh... all in one day.

what a game! we were so afraid of Manchester United, even the Barcelona players looked scared at the beginning of the game, but once Iniesta, Xavi, and Messi decided to pass the ball as they usually do, short passes everywhere, we started to get more confident. It is a huge achievement to beat this Manchester United. And great to win with Silvinho (rarely plays these days), Busquets (last year he was in the thid division in Spain) and also with Toure Yaya in defense.
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Post by: brennser on May 27, 2009, 09:09:43 pm
congrats Barcelona (and Barcelona)

we were shit......if some of Ronaldos shots in the first 10 mins it might have been different but I'm man enough to know when we've been outclassed*

*still think we are a better team, just not better on the night (and thats all that counts)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 28, 2009, 09:33:16 am
i was actually pretty neutral in this match, but i really didnt like the side that saf put out there. once you push rooney out wide and start berba and tevez on the bench, that really decreases the effectiveness of 75% of your best attackers. too much pressure on carrick in my opinion

but iniesta/xavi seemed like 4 guys out there, along with the always brilliant messi. congrats to barca, when they fire like that they are a treat for a neutral to watch
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Post by: Barcelona on May 28, 2009, 11:01:02 am
Thanks Brennser and also nice to see godsshoeshine comment.

I wont say Barcelona is better than Manchester United. I think Manchester United, Chelsea, and Barcelona, are the best teams now, with Liverpool a bit behind, my opinion. Just that yesterday we played better than Manchester United. However, I was really disappointed by Scholes' tackle at the end of the game, kind of lost the respect for him. And Ronaldo and all he did to Puyol, no comments, just sell Ronaldo, he fits into Real Madrid, a team where the only thing that matters is money regardless of ethics or any other thing.
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Post by: lagas on May 28, 2009, 11:52:21 am
Real Madrid vs DC United
Aug. 9th
Fed Ex Field
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Post by: sweetcell on May 28, 2009, 12:34:32 pm
Real Madrid vs DC United
Aug. 9th
Fed Ex Field

i was going to say "no way, they're playing kansas on 8/08", but the kansas game has been rescheduled for sept.  according to the comments here (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2009/05/dc_united_vs_real_madrid.html):


Here are ticket prices for season ticket holders, add $20 for non-holders.
Includes parking.

Lower Bowl Endline, $50.00
Lower Bowl Corners, $60.00
Lower Bowl Midfield, $70.00
Club Level Endline, $80.00
Club Level Corners, $90.00
Club Level Midfield, $100.00

huh, no upper deck... then why not have the game at RFK?!?  and if it is indeed an afternoon game, how much fun will the heat & humidity be? 

personally, i'll be saving my money and going to two regular DC United games instead.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 28, 2009, 12:46:16 pm
yeah, id rather do that too, especially because we might not have dcu around for too much longer
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Post by: brennser on May 28, 2009, 12:54:55 pm
However, I was really disappointed by Scholes' tackle at the end of the game, kind of lost the respect for him. And Ronaldo and all he did to Puyol, no comments, just sell Ronaldo, he fits into Real Madrid, a team where the only thing that matters is money regardless of ethics or any other thing.

Scholes has never been able to tackle - seriously.....he does that at least once in about 70% of his games
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 28, 2009, 01:03:52 pm
i called that tackle 'pulling a scholes' as i watched it
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Post by: vansmack on May 28, 2009, 02:19:30 pm
i was actually pretty neutral in this match, but i really didnt like the side that saf put out there. once you push rooney out wide and start berba and tevez on the bench, that really decreases the effectiveness of 75% of your best attackers. too much pressure on carrick in my opinion

but iniesta/xavi seemed like 4 guys out there, along with the always brilliant messi. congrats to barca, when they fire like that they are a treat for a neutral to watch

It wasn't so much the squad (although the inclusion of Anderson reminded me of how badly I want to Hargreaves career not to be over), it was that he basically announced what he was going to do weeks in advance.  I watch every United match, but at least once a week SAF throws a curve ball in the lineup that causes other managers to try to figure out what he's doing.  I was very worried when I saw that I had predicted the lineup exactly.  Barca must have known what they were going to do and it showed:

Rooney was completely stifled out wide, something no Premiere League team had done all season.

Evra and O'Shea were not able to come forward because when they did, Barca was usually left with a clear chance to score.

Anderson was completely out of his league, and with he and Park not really being a threat, Barca were able to cut down the space afforded Carrick and Giggs.

Tevez provided some hope and Berbatov was a last ditch effort, but it was quite clear that United were rocked by the first goal.  Ronaldo was United's only hope and I think in hindsight, Giggs took that free kick early in the first half thinking Ronaldo would get another chance.  Credit to Barca's discipline that United never had a free kick in range after that.  Barca were the much better squad and deserved the title.
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Post by: sweetcell on May 28, 2009, 02:35:26 pm
especially because we might not have dcu around for too much longer

???

i haven't heard of this... is the whole league in trouble, or just DC?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 28, 2009, 02:37:17 pm
district backed out of a new stadium, then pg did

if they dont get out of rfk the league will move them to kansas city or something awful
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 29, 2009, 10:43:47 am
so is the fa cup on regular setanta this year? if so, awesome
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Post by: vansmack on May 29, 2009, 12:05:57 pm
Yes, 10AM on Saturday on Setanta.

And Ireland and Nigeria are playing a friendly on Setanta today as well.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 29, 2009, 12:14:35 pm
oh sweet. thanks for the heads up, dvr set remotely
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2009, 12:18:01 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYrLSMQy35E
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Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2009, 12:30:27 pm
Often used clip, but that might have been my favorite use of it thus far.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2009, 12:37:13 pm
during the 'weve had 3 managers! shit, weve had 4!' part i lost my shit
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Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2009, 02:57:01 pm
And so it begins....

Gareth Barry to Man city for 12M (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/02/manchester-city-gareth-barry-aston-villa)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2009, 03:14:07 pm
ridiculous

if they get to the champions league next year he'll be 29 and they'll get someone better

and he wont be able to jump because he maked 100k/week
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Post by: vansmack on June 03, 2009, 12:27:07 pm
Normally this isn't news, but I can't wait to get AIG of my jersey so I don't have anymore useless conversations with uninformed douchebags who don't understand....

Man Utd announce new shirt deal with Aon (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=652383&sec=england&cc=5901)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 03, 2009, 12:40:25 pm
they'll bankrupt america next

anyway in typical fashion ashley is trying to sell the club thus holding up appointing shearer full time and starting the transfer process. i cant decide if this guy is an idiot or crazy
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Post by: vansmack on June 03, 2009, 12:52:26 pm
i cant decide if this guy is an idiot or crazy

I'm going with both....
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 03, 2009, 12:55:03 pm
you might be right

its amazing they havent sold anyone yet. not even oba who seems sure to go

what are your thoughts on the tevez to shitty rumors? this could affect my prem watching next year
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Post by: vansmack on June 03, 2009, 01:02:26 pm
what are your thoughts on the tevez to shitty rumors? this could affect my prem watching next year

Like all moves, it depends on the price.  I know United were working behind the scenes to convince Tevez to leave Joorabchian, and I think that failed.  Anything short of that and I think he leaves so I hope shitty overpay for him.
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Post by: vansmack on June 03, 2009, 01:48:00 pm
I nearly forgot about this....

WORLD CUP QUALIFYING

Wednesday, June 3

10:00PM Costa Rica v United States (ESPN)
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Post by: vansmack on June 04, 2009, 06:41:59 pm
I nearly forgot about this....

I wish I had forgotten about that.  Worst performance in years....

I've cancelled Setanta for the summer so I'm not posting the wide array of matches on TV this weekend.  There are no good games on FSC so go to the bar to see the good games, if there are any.

WORLD CUP QUALIFIER

Saturday, June 6

6:30PM United States vs Honduras (ESPN)
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Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2009, 12:24:09 pm
This really is the break ESPN has been waiting for.....


Sports Broadcaster Setanta on the Brink (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124447164242894331.html?mod=googlenews_wsj)
By Ainsley Thomson

LONDON -- The board of privately held Setanta Sports Holdings Ltd. will hold an emergency meeting Monday amid press reports the sports broadcaster could file for insolvency as early as this week, people familiar with the matter said.

Financial-services firm Deloitte is set to step in as administrator unless the company can come up with a rescue plan, the people said.

The meeting comes after Setanta failed to make a 3 million ($4.8 million) payment to the Scottish Premier League for its soccer broadcast rights, due Monday.

Adding to the pressure on Setanta is a looming payment to England's Premier League of around 30 million due early next week.

Setanta declined to comment.

Setanta has been in discussions with its main investors -- Goldman Sachs, venture capital fund Balderton Capital, private-equity firm Doughty Hanson and hedge fund Montrica -- for the past six months to try to secure funding. A board meeting last Saturday reportedly have failed to secure a rescue deal.

The Dublin-based company paid 392 million for two of the six packages of Premiership, now the Premier League, broadcast rights.

However, in February the company only managed to secure one package for 2010 to 2013, while rival British Sky Broadcasting PLC got the others, casting doubt over Setanta's future.

News Corp, owner of Dow Jones, publisher of The Wall Street Journal, holds a roughly 39% stake in BSkyB.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 08, 2009, 12:32:02 pm
i kept setanta for the weekend to watch ireland/bulgaria but i was too exhausted from 4 days straight days of double digit drinking to watch it yesterday. do they have espn in the uk?
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Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2009, 12:55:47 pm
do they have espn in the uk?

They have ESPN Classic, which I predicted would be come ESPN 3 for soccer, and ESPN America, however ESPN America focuses on US sports.  ESPN America took over a channel formerly owned by.....Setanta.
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Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2009, 01:00:43 pm
And for the record, I don't know if they'll want the one UK package Setanta held on to, but I have no doubt that they will want the US rights to the Premiership.

ESPN Classic is already being moved off the free tiers of cable and satellite packaes for ESPNU and will be moved to the Sports Pack type tier.  That will be increased revenue, probably enough to pay for the EPL.  It really could mean no extra subscription fee for Setanta next season and both FSC and ESPN3/Soccer as part of the sports pack for one price.  That would be sweet.
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 08, 2009, 01:18:39 pm
Hey, I have a (stupid, I know) soccer question. With that UEFA club championship thing, does only one team (the champion) from each league get into it or are their more than one from each? Also, is it only for each country's premier league or do the smaller leagues get to send their champions/teams too?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 08, 2009, 01:21:05 pm
in a nut shell, the better the league the more teams they send. england, spain and italy get 4 and it goes down from there
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 08, 2009, 01:23:19 pm
in a nut shell, the better the league the more teams they send. england, spain and italy get 4 and it goes down from there
But in each country aren't their multiple leagues or levels that teams can be promoted or demoted to? Is England's (for example) 4 teams the four best teams from whatever-the-English-Premier-League-is-called or is like the champions of the 4 best leagues in England or some combination of the two?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 08, 2009, 01:33:25 pm
i'm sorry, its each country's top league. when you win the lower leagues, your reward is moving up the domestic system. once your in the top flight, its going to the champions league
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 08, 2009, 01:38:33 pm
i'm sorry, its each country's top league. when you win the lower leagues, your reward is moving up the domestic system. once your in the top flight, its going to the champions league
Gotcha.

Another question: are their fail-safes in place to stop a huge powerhouse team like Man U or Real Madrid (you know, the teams Americans have heard of!) from falling out of the top leagues? If not, has that ever happened? I know if the Dallas Cowboys or Detroit Red Wings had a bad year in their sport and we had that kinda system that it would cause all sorts of financial reprocussions to the leagues. Has that sort of thing occured before?
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Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2009, 01:44:44 pm
I'm going to use this example as I think the wound is too soft for Godsshoeshine...

Leeds United (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeds_United#2001-2004:_Financial_implosion)

Short answer is no.  If you finish in the bottom 3, you go down, regardless of your reputation and past history.
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 08, 2009, 01:50:46 pm
And the leagues themself don't run into some sort of insolvency issue if an AC Milan or Man U spends 2-3 years in a lower division? That would cripple some American sports.
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Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on June 08, 2009, 01:56:14 pm
I must say I do like the idea, especially because it makes late-season games between basement-dwellers all the more exciting and no one can tank for a top draft pick, I just don't see how it wouldn't cripple a league at some point. Heck, if they did it with the NHL and Colorado, the Isles, and Toronto got replaced -- even if only for one year -- by Hershey, Manitoba, and Houston, heck, the league would be screwed. The salary cap would plummet.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 08, 2009, 02:03:30 pm
And the leagues themself don't run into some sort of insolvency issue if an AC Milan or Man U spends 2-3 years in a lower division? That would cripple some American sports.
the leagues in the biggest countries are bigger than the individual teams. but the teams themselves have varying financial issues. not getting into the champions league even one year could cripple liverpool so much that hicks and gillette would have to sell
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2009, 02:19:42 pm
The other part of the problem is how US sports use their minor league teams.  That doesn't exist in soccer.  Reserve squads play in reserve squad leagues, not in the lower divisions.  Players are "loaned" out to lower division squads to gain experience, however once a player is loaned out, you are forbidden from pulling him back to your squad until his loan term is up, so you best 20-25 players are playing in the reserve team or at the top club, not in some minor league affiliate.

The only teams that could come up in baseball and hockey, are owned by top flight teams, so it would be a drastic change.

The NBA only just now has a D-League (development league) and there is no minor leagues for the NFL.

It would be a drastic change in how things work and there's no way the owners or the unions would support it. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 08, 2009, 02:23:59 pm
plus no one would have paid hundreds of millions of dollars for a franchise fee if relegation was in the cards
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2009, 02:34:45 pm
It's fair to point out that I have always dreamed of setting this up for a fantasy baseball league, but even then I was totally perplexed as to how to do team valuations.

I was thinking maybe $150 to play in the top flight (with higher payouts), $100 to play in the second division and $50 to play in the third division.  21 team league (seven in each division), 23 man rosters, every stat counts but the big hangup has been how to value players.  In soccer, you progress by finding one gem and selling him for enough money to make your team better at 3 or 4 positions. That's more difficult when you have to trade, unless we can somehow do team valuations....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2009, 06:02:14 pm
The Kaka to Real deal is supposedly done for ?65 Million.

I guess that would make Ronaldo safe at United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on June 09, 2009, 10:23:30 am
This is historic for us!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw3CTvNqcsk
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 09, 2009, 10:30:24 am
The Kaka to Real deal is supposedly done for ?65 Million.

I guess that would make Ronaldo safe at United.
i'll be honest

i'm kind of bummed. i hoped to see him in england
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 09, 2009, 12:14:04 pm
i'll be honest

i'm kind of bummed. i hoped to see him in england

I thought you weren't watching Top Flight English football this year?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 09, 2009, 12:21:26 pm
what? i didnt mean to say that

i'm not keeping setanta at $15 a month (i could still change my mind there) but i surely will watch whatever is on fsc hd
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 11, 2009, 08:58:56 am
The Kaka to Real deal is supposedly done for ?65 Million.

I guess that would make Ronaldo safe at United.
not so fast (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=654097&sec=transfers&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 11:26:28 am
Incredible.  Where Real finds this money I will never know.

I love the deal.  80M!  I was ready to make the deal at Christmas.

Rooney is free to run the team now (as we see him doing with England), Ribery should be coming in to be the play maker, and Berbatov has a year under his belt now to understand how to play at United.

What does this mean for Tevez?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on June 11, 2009, 11:39:07 am
me too....$80 million gets you two, possibly three players.....I'll miss his football but not his theatrics, and it was clear he was mailing it in this season
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 11, 2009, 11:47:27 am
20m more and you could buy newcastle or west ham

thats insane money. ribery, a tevez replacement and a role player or two. good deal
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 12:04:53 pm
20m more and you could buy newcastle

With the exception of JS Veron, we only like to make good investments on the Upper West Side.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 11, 2009, 04:08:50 pm
setenta is irish?!?!?  the name always led me to believe it was spanish.  no, i've never watched the channel.

Disney's ESPN says no current plan to buy Setanta
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090611/media_nm/us_setanta_espn
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 11, 2009, 04:36:22 pm
all that rugby and spl? where else would they watch that 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on June 11, 2009, 04:39:01 pm
Setanta = mythical Irish character

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%BAchulainn


setenta is irish?!?!?  the name always led me to believe it was spanish.  no, i've never watched the channel.

Disney's ESPN says no current plan to buy Setanta
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090611/media_nm/us_setanta_espn
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 04:51:24 pm
Setanta = mythical Irish character

haha!  It's a mythical Irish TV station now too!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2009, 04:53:46 pm
Disney's ESPN says no current plan to buy Setanta
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090611/media_nm/us_setanta_espn

Why buy the sum of the whole when you can wait long enough and buy the few parts that actually make money at a bargain price?

I learned this at young age when watching Pretty Woman....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 11, 2009, 05:14:34 pm
Setanta = mythical Irish character

haha!  It's a mythical Irish TV station now too!
righteous zong
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 11, 2009, 05:24:51 pm
d'oh: spanish would be setenta (seventy).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on June 11, 2009, 11:21:50 pm
Setanta = mythical Irish character

haha!  It's a mythical Irish TV station now too!

touche
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 12, 2009, 12:31:38 pm
I just love this...

Wigan confirm Man United interest in Valencia, 15m (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=654463&sec=transfers&cc=5901)

Seems like ridiculously smart business to me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 12, 2009, 12:37:29 pm
ive heard benzema for ~30m rumors going around too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 12, 2009, 01:12:18 pm
ive heard benzema for ~30m rumors going around too

His Wiki page already says he plays for United.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karim_Benzema
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 12, 2009, 01:16:29 pm
hahaha...awesome
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 12, 2009, 01:17:12 pm
but yeah if they can turn ronaldo into benzema, ribery and valencia then well done
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 12, 2009, 01:18:02 pm
hahaha...awesome

For the record, I did not do that.  But I might "virtually" know the person that did.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 12, 2009, 01:19:50 pm
but yeah if they can turn ronaldo into benzema, ribery and valencia then well done

That would far exceed my wildest expectations...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 12, 2009, 01:26:17 pm
even assuming that tevez has gone, you replace 2 with 3. valencia is know to be quality in england, ribery has delivered all over the place and benzema is the high potential kid. i'd kind of like to see them add maybe another cmf

edit: maybe a rb too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 12, 2009, 01:36:29 pm
even assuming that tevez has gone, you replace 2 with 3. valencia is know to be quality in england, ribery has delivered all over the place and benzema is the high potential kid. i'd kind of like to see them add maybe another cmf

edit: maybe a rb too

Well, I think there's high hopes for the return of Owen Hargeaves for central mid (myself included).  But I don't like taking the chance with the elders Giggs and Scholes as the only backups to Fletcher, Carrick and Anderson should Hargreaves not meet fitness after double knee surgery or whatever it was...

The Tevez thing is all about the discomfort United have for the secretive arrangement with his agent.  It's been made quite clear to him that they will sign him if he can seperate himself from Kia Joorabchian. 

As for right back, it's all about the twins now.  I understnd there's some interest in a17 year old Brazilian Central defender too.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 12, 2009, 01:37:38 pm
hahaha...awesome

Sadly, it was changed back.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 12, 2009, 11:03:30 pm
HEY! Just think....we sell Ronaldo and we can buy Newcastle United!!!!

The solution is simple....dump Ronaldo for 80 mil....a great player but not a united blue collar player. We also dump that lazy bastard Berbatov to some money heavy moron like City or Chelski then get Ribery at a discount coz he's 26 years old so at the twilight of his prime. Sign Tevez as long as he dumps his ambulance chasing agent and look for a successor to Ferdinand to partner Vidic in the near future. Put Rooney and Tevez up front (why put Rooney out of his natural position???) game after game and we'll put the fear of god into every defense in Europe. We also take Henry from Barca as as short term solution seeing as Barca don't seem to appreciate the talent they have there.

BTW, Congratulations to Barca. Totally outplayed United in the final. Talk about men against boys???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 14, 2009, 05:48:34 pm
I am not man.  I am Cantona.

http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi358679321/
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 14, 2009, 08:16:56 pm
spain didnt even bother to toy with the kiwi's today
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 14, 2009, 08:33:37 pm
spain didnt even bother to toy with the kiwi's today

Bullies!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 15, 2009, 10:40:55 am
i set the dvr for the usmnt vs italy today. i hope its less boring than i think it will be.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 15, 2009, 11:54:23 am
i set the dvr for the usmnt vs italy today. i hope its less boring than i think it will be.

I was thinking about this while sitting on the beach this morning.  Having been in attendance for what was probably the US's greatest single game performance the last time these teams met, it's very frustrating for me to see just how far they've fallen recently.  Today will likely not be pretty, and Egypt are not exactly going to be a walkover in the second game either.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 17, 2009, 12:35:12 pm
Man Utd start new season home to Birmingham (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=655380&sec=england&cc=5901)

Newcastle face West Brom away on opening day (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=655384&sec=england&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 17, 2009, 01:10:01 pm
west brom and reading is as tough a start as you can have in the ccc

just hope we have an owner, a manager or at least some players by then
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 17, 2009, 08:00:41 pm
Shoeshine...I know it must suck that your team was relegated but believe me the Championship is more fun than the premier league. When I was living back in Cork there was a 'match of the day' for the championship and it really was much more entertaining than the premier league sometimes...no prima donnas, no diving, just good honest football like it's supposed to be played.

I'm just disapointed I won't see Keano go up against McCarthy, now that would've been interesting. Ipswich are my Championship team for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 17, 2009, 08:53:19 pm
dont get me wrong, itll be nice for the toon to not be completely outmatched like 40% of the time, but i wont be able to watch any of these games on tv
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 19, 2009, 05:20:24 pm
Premier League decides to end Setanta deal (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=656093&sec=england&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 19, 2009, 06:20:00 pm
so espn should snag the prem matches, then make a deal with the beeb for the ccc
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 19, 2009, 06:36:07 pm
so espn should snag the prem matches, then make a deal with the beeb for the ccc

That of course is about broadcasting rights in England.  That doesn't speak to the American broadcasting rights...

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Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 20, 2009, 01:29:28 pm
stop teasing me
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 21, 2009, 11:41:44 pm
The Azure can fuck off.

With that, I'm on vacation.  Talk to you all next week.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on June 22, 2009, 01:58:11 pm
espn

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jun/22/espn-wins-premier-league-rights
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 22, 2009, 02:01:03 pm
wow. sounds like they have the uk rights before the u.s.

interesting
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 23, 2009, 12:39:20 pm
for awhile i didnt think it could get worse. and then
(http://www.nufcblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/steven-taylor-432358772.jpg)
someone explain to me how ashley made millions selling football shirts, and yet approves shite like this
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on June 23, 2009, 02:34:45 pm
setanta uk in receivership - 200 job losses

setanta ireland and us to keep going
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 25, 2009, 09:10:57 am
holy shit
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on June 25, 2009, 09:31:29 am
no joke.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 25, 2009, 08:53:33 pm
for awhile i didnt think it could get worse. and then
(http://www.nufcblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/steven-taylor-432358772.jpg)
someone explain to me how ashley made millions selling football shirts, and yet approves shite like this


I can honestly say with hand on heart....."HA HA HA HAHAHAHAH HA HA THAT IS FUCKING HIDEOUS HA HA HAHAHAHAHAH? That should put fear in the championship when they trot out onto the field in that cheeky little number.....I just hope they don't slip on themselves in the process..

Who are the new sponsors? Fyfees?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 26, 2009, 09:03:13 am
you cant doubt taylors loyalty after he agreed to model that

new sponsor next year, hopefully negotiated by new ownership
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 28, 2009, 08:09:35 pm
i guess smackie (and whoever else is going to south africa next year) cant sing TWO WORLD WARS AND ONE CONFED CUP DO DAH DO DAH now :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 29, 2009, 09:46:13 am
ouch.  that was painful.  did the Team US really think it could kill time and defend against the brazilians for a full half? 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 29, 2009, 09:47:04 am
of course not. they couldnt hold possession though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 29, 2009, 02:25:34 pm
ouch.  that was painful.  did the Team US really think it could kill time and defend against the brazilians for a full half? 

I disagree completely.  If you would have told me that the US would be tied with Brazil in a final with less than 10 minutes to go, I'd have told you were crazy.  Add to that the fact that the game wasn't scoreless and I'm even more in shock.

No matter what happened yesterday, that was a win for US Soccer.  No pain involved whatsoever.  That's probably the last FIFA Final I'll ever see the US team partcipate in my lifetime, and I couldn't be more proud of their performance.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 29, 2009, 03:32:31 pm
two goals from open play against brazil is pretty amazing for the u.s.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2009, 12:47:45 pm
5 Things we Learned from the Confederations Cup (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/jun/29/confederations-cup-spain-brazil-south-africa)

3. Don't moan about the vuvuzelas

"Those African trumpets?" Xabi Alonso said with a look of genuine disgust. "They make a terrible noise. I don't think it's a very good idea to have them on sale outside the grounds. Here's a piece of advice for Fifa: they should try to ban those things. It's not distracting but that noise is a bit annoying."

It seems like an innocent enough comment. Why, after all, shouldn't Alonso complain if something irks him? But it prompted fury among South African fans and was, it seems, part of the reason why the home crowd got behind the US in their semi-final victory over Spain. "South Africa is a noisy country," blasted a leader in the Daily Sun. "Foreigners should get used to it." A letter in the same paper, meanwhile, accused Alonso of being a modern-day conquistador.

You may know that the idea they're connected to the myth that baboons are killed by loud noise is farcical. You may know that they've only really been around for four or five years. You may despair of people who tell you that they're part of African football (they're not: I've been to three African Cups of Nations and heard the drumming of the Beninois and the Ivorians, the trumpets and trombones of the Nigerians, even the banjo-playing of Ali, the grinning and omnipresent Tunisian, but I'd never heard a vuvuzela until a fortnight ago). You may be driven slowly insane by them. But it's probably best not to mention it.

---

And I'll add #6 - the US is A LOT better than anybody thought, and that includes many Americans, myself included.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 30, 2009, 01:01:29 pm
for me #1 is
1. South Africa is cold in June
they concentrate on england in the guardian (of course) but that helps the u.s. too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2009, 01:14:09 pm
for me #1 is
1. South Africa is cold in June

Actually, Johannesburg is because it's higher than Denver, but Cape Town and Durban (where I'm considering going in 2010) are rather mild.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2009, 03:45:18 pm
Manchester United is delighted to announce that it has completed the signing of Antonio Valencia from Wigan on a four-year contract for an undisclosed fee.

The 23 year-old Ecuador international has played 34 times for his country, scoring four goals.

Sir Alex Ferguson said:

"Antonio is a player we have admired for some time now, having spent the last two years in the Premier League with Wigan.  I am sure his pace and ability will make a significant contribution to the team."

Antonio Valencia said:

"Joining Manchester United is a dream come true for me. I have enjoyed my time at Wigan, but I am thrilled to have the chance to challenge for the biggest honours in club football here.

"Playing in front of 76,000 fans alongside players like Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand and Ryan Giggs will be an amazing experience. I can?t wait to get started."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 01, 2009, 12:17:43 pm
This is unbelievable....

Real revolution set to continue with 30m deal for Benzema (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jul/01/karim-benzema-lyon-real-madrid)

When will they ever learn that buying the best players does not make a very good football squad?  It takes cohesion....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 01, 2009, 01:17:08 pm
never. what are the going to do with those all of the dutch players now
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 01, 2009, 02:00:33 pm
I have made no secret about my man crush for Wesley Sneijder.  I would love to see him at OT. 

Fergie was also looking to sign Robben at 18 back in the day only to have the bastard Peter Kenyon steal him to Chelsea when he betrayed OT, but I don't see that happening.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 01, 2009, 02:37:15 pm
ouch.  that was painful.  did the Team US really think it could kill time and defend against the brazilians for a full half? 

I disagree completely. 

sorry, i wasn't clear... the pain was losing the lead.  personally, a game that went 1-0, 1-1, 2-1, 2-2, 3-2 would have been easier to stomach.

completely agreed that this was a huge win for US soccer.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 01, 2009, 03:35:31 pm
the pain was losing the lead.  

I didn't for more than one second think the US was going to win that game - not even 2-0 at half.  The win was getting there and scoring two goals in open play as shoeshine pointed out.  There was no pain.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 01, 2009, 04:10:15 pm
gotta say i was impressed with donovan's free kicks, especially the corners. consistently dangerous, especially with all the big bodies the u.s. has
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 01, 2009, 04:18:56 pm
what a loser mentality to believe its a win when you gave up a 2 goal lead..

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 01, 2009, 04:19:08 pm
gotta say i was impressed with donovan

I would have stopped there.  I've never been a big fan of Landy Cakes, mostly because he has consistently pussed out of playing in Europe, but he was a star in that tournament.  His play was mostly brilliant and he was by far the most fit player on the US squad - seems he never got tired and he certainly never gave up.  I'm not saying I'm a believer yet, but that 2nd goal against Brazil was easily as nice as the United goal against Arsenal in the FA that people still talk about.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 01, 2009, 04:28:14 pm
supposedly he's going to get a chance at la liga. really wonder if anyone over there is going to want him and be able to afford what mls is going to want at the same time. to me thats a better fit, and he speaks spanish
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 02, 2009, 06:33:35 pm
Shoeshine, with his recent text, just set my agenda for the weekend:

Michael Owen on verge of shock move to Manchester United (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jul/02/michael-owen-manchester-united-transfer)

I can't wait for Mankie's take, although I'm talking myself into the Ole Gunnar role for him and praying Rooney doesn't get hurt.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 03, 2009, 10:26:38 am
if mike starts under around 20-25 matches i think its brilliant. i get the feeling he will still score given chances, and if he gets hurt man utd is deep enough to absorb it

really, i would have felt bad if he went to a smaller team. he'd be part side show part albatross for hull, stoke, wigan ect
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 06, 2009, 06:21:56 pm
He fucking took the #9 jersey and isn't putting C. Ronaldo on it?!!?

(http://www.madridgalacticos.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/pic492.jpg)

Real and Ronaldo deserve each other....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 07, 2009, 12:51:05 pm
per smackie's text, gooch to milan: http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/onyewu-joins-ac-milan/

crazy. it was only 2 years and 5 6 managers ago that he wasnt good enough for the toon
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 07, 2009, 12:57:38 pm
That's good for the gooch.

I hear that Obertan is officially a United player at the ripe age of 20.  And that SAF has put a bid in on Huntelaar for around 18-20M.  He's 25.

Oh, and the players are threatening a walkout at the Toon.  Good times...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 07, 2009, 02:59:05 pm
it all comes down to the sale. if fat ash can pull it off in the next couple of weeks, theres a chance of salvaging the squad. if not, i bet he goes into administration by the end of the season
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 09, 2009, 03:33:44 pm
so apparently the mirror ran this story:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/07/09/toon-eye-shearer-vialli-115875-21505884/
and...its a complete hoax
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 11, 2009, 12:42:57 pm
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/1/23/128772184085054906.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 15, 2009, 05:34:49 pm
Great headline....

Nancy boys call off England tour in fear of "swine flu" (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=660928&sec=europe&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 15, 2009, 09:23:42 pm
hahaha

by the way, it sounds like we're stuck with ashley. murmurs are that the sale isnt happening. administration would not surprise me
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 16, 2009, 12:05:48 am
Allright Estudiantes! Beats Cruzeiro 2-1 in Brazil to take Libertadores Cup...Great win!

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 16, 2009, 09:40:09 am
i saw that this morning. a little bummed i didnt hear about it beforehand. i like cup finals
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 20, 2009, 02:56:18 pm
any thoughts on the becks booing incident? i mean, what did he expect
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 20, 2009, 03:05:07 pm
any thoughts on the becks booing incident? i mean, what did he expect

I'm so bummed I didn't stay for that.  I was in LA this weekend and we had tickets, but the last flight was too early for me to go to the match.  My brother-in-law was there and said he was treated fairly well by everybody but the Riot group area.

And yes he totally deserves it, but he's been through this before.  The fans will forget if he plays well (he was pretty good yesterday, but Donovan was better) and the Galaxy start winning.  Apparently Landy Cakes also sent a keg or two out to the Riot group pregame tailgate party which won him a ton of support.  Clever bastard.

That being said, this is Becks last season in MLS.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 20, 2009, 03:17:07 pm
after watching the last half of houston/toronto and all of chelsea/seattle i realized that the prem cant start soon enough, even if my team isnt in it. and that i need more hobbies
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 20, 2009, 03:45:19 pm
becks jumped the barricade and rushed the crowd?!?  lucky for him that more drunks didn't take him up on the offer...

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SPORT/football/07/20/mls.beckham.fans.row/index.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 20, 2009, 03:51:13 pm
after watching the last half of houston/toronto and all of chelsea/seattle i realized that the prem cant start soon enough, even if my team isnt in it. and that i need more hobbies

Haha....the other day I presented a new Tech plan for out AV system in the bedroom and Smackette said "Isn't there a soccer game or something that you could watch instead?  That season can't start soon enough...."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 20, 2009, 03:53:52 pm
Becks was simply trying to shake hands with the guy who was telling him that he wishes his wife would get cancer again.  That's all.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 20, 2009, 04:04:00 pm
after watching the last half of houston/toronto and all of chelsea/seattle i realized that the prem cant start soon enough, even if my team isnt in it. and that i need more hobbies

Haha....the other day I presented a new Tech plan for out AV system in the bedroom and Smackette said "Isn't there a soccer game or something that you could watch instead?  That season can't start soon enough...."
i usually let my wife have saturday and sunday between the stanley cup final and the first weekend in august in odd number years to do what she wants. cause i'm really really nice. however, this weekend i ran like 12 miles combined because the weather was perfect

she kind of likes when the steelers play on sundays because i clean the whole house
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 21, 2009, 12:58:20 pm
i was all ready today to make fun of crouch snubbing the mackems this morning. then i read that (supposedly) the toon players are being told that hughton is going to be in charge for 'at least a few' regular season matches

amazing how terrible ashley's reign of terror has been
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 22, 2009, 12:19:37 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/7/22/1248254427685/Huddersfield-001.jpg)

I would say you're off to a cracking start....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 22, 2009, 12:35:21 pm
Dale Boca carajo!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 22, 2009, 02:05:38 pm
would have been nice to see some spirit like that last year. on the other hand, discipline without a manager cant be high
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on July 22, 2009, 05:28:03 pm
Dale Boca carajo!!!!!!!!

Independiente! tiempo de volver donde debe estar, rey de copas.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on July 23, 2009, 06:17:10 pm
El Buitre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEAGL-VsUZM

amazing goal
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 23, 2009, 11:31:12 pm
Maybe one of you will care, but my buddy Matt "Money" Smith had Landy Cakes on his LA Radio show today and I clearly briefed him on a few questions/comments I would like Money to ask.  See if you can find which nuggets were me (http://www.am570radio.com/pages/pc/) (one of which I dropped earlier in this thread).

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 24, 2009, 08:51:07 am
i dont have speakers at work, but please tell me he asked landon if he bought the riot group a couple kegs
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 24, 2009, 01:04:42 pm
:54 - You were a real young dude when a-holes like me were piling on a bit, asking when we might get more from a guy who many think could be the best US soccer player ever.  Was that fair?

LD - it was fair.  I didn't have it figured out like I do now...

------

1:23 - was this summer an audition for you to return to Europe?

LD - Contract issues, dedicated to LA, but if anybody calls you, could you let me know? (later on he said "Let me know if Barcelona call" and then when asked about his struggles international is it your "stature" or "is it just you're not interested")

-------

1:30 - Why didn't that French D-bag Ribery ever pass you the ball at Bayern Munich?
 
No comment, but he did laugh.

------

4:59- True or not true, that little group of hardcore fans, the riot squad.  Do you provide them with libations prior, I've heard...word on the street is that maybe Landon Donovan....

LD: (laughing) Who told you that?

...I've got some friends that might be in that little section say that he's been known to maybe drop off a couple cases of some beverages to the people, just to show his appreciation...

LD: (laughing) I'm contrubuting to the booing and their riotness, huh?

...Donovan, I've just heard that from a couple people....

LD: Um, no comment.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 24, 2009, 03:51:59 pm
an irish dude using beer to his advantage? i am aghast!

good stuff
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on July 25, 2009, 03:03:31 pm
ouch

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jul/25/newcastle-united-leyton-orient
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 25, 2009, 08:58:59 pm
(http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/football-banter/css/TEVEZ%20poster.jpg)

I think it is daft.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 27, 2009, 08:44:38 am
maybe theyre making the joke that all of man u's fans live outside of the city
ouch

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jul/25/newcastle-united-leyton-orient

rumors are going around that the players threw the match on purpose. so fucked
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 27, 2009, 12:18:35 pm
maybe theyre making the joke that all of man u's fans live outside of the city

Actually, Old Trafford is in Trafford and not greater Manchester, so they are taking a poke at the local Man U fans too.  I laughed, Fergie did not.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 27, 2009, 12:20:10 pm
rumors are going around that the players threw the match on purpose. so fucked

Obefemi asked to be sold to Wolfsburg. 

And Owen has 4 goals this this offseason already.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 27, 2009, 12:31:51 pm
oba moving would be a good sign, to be honest

i've decided to not talk about mike owen anymore
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on July 28, 2009, 04:14:37 pm
for some reason this makes me laugh

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/7/28/1248785377995/Newcastle-fan-001.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 28, 2009, 04:23:28 pm
he should have newcastle over his heart, not england
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 28, 2009, 04:25:37 pm
I laughed too when I saw that on The Guardian, but I was trying to be nice to godsshoeshine in these trying times.....


Wednesday, July 29

6:30AM Man United vs Boca Juniors ESPN360
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 28, 2009, 04:39:58 pm
ashley has to be doing this on purpose, but whatever. i've given up hope

wish that boca/united game was on a regular channel
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on July 29, 2009, 11:09:26 am
yeah, was definitely not trying to pile on but the antics up north just beggar belief these days
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 29, 2009, 11:27:43 am
dont you guys have champions league and top flight teams to worry about

they've leaked out that administration is not an option. which in ashley speak means its pretty close to being a certainty
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 29, 2009, 04:20:01 pm
oba moving would be a good sign, to be honest

The Guardian is reporting Newcastle accept 9m bid from Wolfsburg for Obafemi Martins ...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 29, 2009, 04:24:18 pm
oh nice. only lost 1m. in the state the toon is in i will take it.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 30, 2009, 12:16:05 pm
Iranian businessman Sirous Mahjoob on Thursday confirmed that he is in the final stages of negotiations to buy English football club Newcastle United. (http://www.arabianbusiness.com/563375-exclusive-iranian-tycoon-speaks-on-newcastle-utd-deal)

and yet google had never heard of this guy with a name that looks suspiciously close to "serious manboobs"

i might cry before the season starts
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 30, 2009, 01:10:51 pm
Thursday, July 30

2:30PM Man United vs Bayern Munich  ESPN360
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 30, 2009, 01:13:20 pm
Iranian businessman Sirous Mahjoob on Thursday confirmed that he is in the final stages of negotiations to buy English football club Newcastle United. (http://www.arabianbusiness.com/563375-exclusive-iranian-tycoon-speaks-on-newcastle-utd-deal)

and yet google had never heard of this guy with a name that looks suspiciously close to "serious manboobs"

i might cry before the season starts


Hmmm, maybe there is one Iranian who likes the British.  I would have thought not.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 30, 2009, 01:40:41 pm
yeah, not too many people out there are buying this as real
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 30, 2009, 07:27:29 pm
maybe theyre making the joke that all of man u's fans live outside of the city

Actually, Old Trafford is in Trafford and not greater Manchester, so they are taking a poke at the local Man U fans too.  I laughed, Fergie did not.

Manchester United
Sir Matt Busby Way,
Old Trafford,
Manchester
M16 ORA

http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/towns/postcodes.html



Tevez had to go to make room on the bench for Mikey Owen....replace one bench warmer for another seems like logic to me. Besides Mikey's goals scored to time played ratio has already put the ugly money grabbing argie to shame, and United will miss him like a dose of the shits . Shitty of Middle Eastlands just have United envy. Unfortunately no amount of cash can replace history, glory and  years and years of success............just ask chelski. We'll miss Ronaldo for a few games till we find our feet, watch Rooney start knocking em in for fun as long as he's played in the center.


FYI - Guess who is now a certified ref with USSF? Yep? I wanted to find out what it was like on the other end of a redcard for a change!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on July 31, 2009, 08:29:20 am
RIP Sir Bobby

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jul/31/bobby-robson-dies
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 31, 2009, 09:15:42 am
i had heard he didnt look good this weekend. very sad, the man walked on water tyneside
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on July 31, 2009, 10:04:33 am
he is damn near unrecognizable in the picture accompanying the article.....

i had heard he didnt look good this weekend. very sad, the man walked on water tyneside
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 31, 2009, 10:11:58 am
wow stay classy frank gallagher...

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 02, 2009, 10:20:03 am
sunderland supporters sang "theres only one sir bobby robson" during a friendly with celtic. the celtic fans stood and applauded. respect.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 02, 2009, 08:00:14 pm
I'm jumping the gun a bit here, but I can't contain my excitement....


Saturday, August 8

5:00pm Coca-Cola Championship - West Brom vs Newcastle United (Setanta)


Sunday, August 9

9:55am FA Community Shield - Man Utd vs Chelsea (Setanta)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 03, 2009, 09:25:15 am
i've decided i'm going back to setanta. sounds like the toon might actually be on there a bit

i'll be honest, i was so sports starved this weekend that i watched about 20 minutes of arsenal/athletico madrid on goltv. i got disgusted with myself and read a book instead
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 03, 2009, 12:14:08 pm
i'll be honest, i was so sports starved this weekend that i watched about 20 minutes of arsenal/athletico madrid on goltv. i got disgusted with myself and read a book instead

Haha!  I did the same!  And when the NASCAR race was cancelled I flipped back and forth between two really bad AL/NL matchups. One more week....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 04, 2009, 02:20:08 pm
Alonso to Madrid - 30 bills

Tevez may miss start of season (karma's a bitch)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/04/manchester-city-carlos-tevez-injured-in-shower

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 04, 2009, 02:31:12 pm
wow. thats a lot of , but can they really replace him

http://twitter.com/MikelArteta/status/2632816691
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 04, 2009, 02:47:39 pm
thats brilliant   :D

wow. thats a lot of , but can they really replace him

http://twitter.com/MikelArteta/status/2632816691
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 04, 2009, 07:42:52 pm
Alonso to Madrid - 30 bills

Tevez may miss start of season (karma's a bitch)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/04/manchester-city-carlos-tevez-injured-in-shower



Just like being back at Old Trafford then......BENCH WARMER!!!!!

I just want to know when is Wenger going to start buying a new Arse'nil seeing as he's pretty much sold the old one.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 05, 2009, 09:32:38 am
jozy altidore is in england according to his twitter updates

hull, everton and fulham have the rumored interest
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 05, 2009, 12:48:31 pm
jozy altidore is in england according to his twitter updates

hull, everton and fulham have the rumored interest

Haha, this is what happens when I wake up 3 hours later than you do and don't check my tweets until I'm on my way to work.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 05, 2009, 12:54:43 pm
like i said, greedily hoping its fulham
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 05, 2009, 12:59:08 pm
Alonso to Madrid - 30 bills

Tevez may miss start of season (karma's a bitch)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/04/manchester-city-carlos-tevez-injured-in-shower



Just like being back at Old Trafford then......BENCH WARMER!!!!!

I just want to know when is Wenger going to start buying a new Arse'nil seeing as he's pretty much sold the old one.



Ridiculous. Tevez is a proven winner with multiple teams. If Tevez had started against Barcelona I wouldn't bet against ManU having won. His teams - prior to that final- had never lost a final and I'm not sure its a coincidence. The guy has won it all and lets not even talk about him singlehandedly saving WestHam from relegation. To measure Tevez merely on goals scored is innane. He brings a lot more to a team than goals. I don't believe he left over money. HE left over the lack of respect he was shown at ManU. I would agree that he may be on the downslope of his career but way further up the hill than Owen!!!!!



Boca Juniors
Copa Sudamericana: 2004
Intercontinental Cup: 2003
Primera Divisin Apertura: 2003?04
Copa Libertadores: 2003
Corinthians
Campeonato Brasileiro Srie A: 2005
Manchester United
Premier League: 2007?08, 2008?09
FA Community Shield: 2008
UEFA Champions League: 2007?08
FIFA Club World Cup: 2008
Football League Cup: 2008?09

[edit] International
2004 Summer Olympics: Gold medal
South American U-20 Championship: 2003

[edit] Individual
Copa Libertadores Most Valuable Player: 2003
Silver Olimpia (Argentine Footballer of the Year): 2003, 2004
Golden Olimpia (Argentine Sportsperson of the Year): 2004
Olympic Golden Boot: 2004
CBF Campeonato Brasileiro Best Player: 2005
Placar Bola de Ouro: 2005
South American Footballer of the Year: 2003, 2004, 2005
Hammer of the Year: 2007

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 05, 2009, 01:24:16 pm
Ok, Mrs Tevez  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 05, 2009, 01:28:20 pm
dont take mankie/frank too seriously. he hated on mike owen last year
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 05, 2009, 01:37:50 pm
its hull :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 05, 2009, 02:12:13 pm
Ok, Mrs Tevez  ;)

Too much? :)

well he has won pretty much everything.. if winning trophies is a measure of a player's success then Tevez is number one in the world.

THere is no other player currently playing who has won everything he has won.... (I'm talking at a club level for his glaring deficiency is the World Cup)...

Who else has won something comparable to:

ARgentine league, Libertadores, Intercontinental, Brazilian league (I think this was his biggest achievement becaues its very rare for an Argentine player to do well in Brazil), English league, Champions league

Like I said though he may be on the downslope... this year will be very telling..he's not off to a good start.. If I was Maradona I'm not sure I'd have him on the national side..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 05, 2009, 02:32:55 pm
if i was maradona, im not sure id have myself as manager
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 05, 2009, 10:27:31 pm
Hey Hutch, you should change your user name to Bitch, as in Tevez's Bitch!

Why all the love for such a better than average player? What you seem to forget is at all his teams other than Old Trafford he was probably the best player, at OT he just became a squad player because of the pool of talent available, and his ego couldn't take it. It has nothing to do with respect but more to do with him being a typical south americans whiney arsed prima donna cry baby. He deserves all the silverware he won't be winning at middle eastlands.

If I was maradonna I wouldn't have scored a goal with my hand.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 06, 2009, 08:11:36 am
anyhoo....

so the Guardian has predicted Liverpool will win the title this year....seems odd to me....then again their predictions for the last 4 years have now been Liverpool, Chelsea, Chelsea, Liverpool.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 06, 2009, 09:07:33 am
the english press are insane
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 06, 2009, 09:36:00 am
Hey Hutch, you should change your user name to Bitch, as in Tevez's Bitch!

Why all the love for such a better than average player? What you seem to forget is at all his teams other than Old Trafford he was probably the best player, at OT he just became a squad player because of the pool of talent available, and his ego couldn't take it. It has nothing to do with respect but more to do with him being a typical south americans whiney arsed prima donna cry baby. He deserves all the silverware he won't be winning at middle eastlands.

If I was maradonna I wouldn't have scored a goal with my hand.


but would you have ran through seven England players and scored the nail in the coffin 2-0?

England fans always seem to focus on the first goal but forget the second...or the entire rest of the match! I guess its just too painful.  Watch the game over again and its pretty clear that the only time England did any attacking was when Argentina let it (when it was up 2-0)... ANd if anyone deserves blame for that first goal its the referee.

Talk about whiney arsed! STill obsessed with the hand of god goal more than 20 years later!

Somehow I think its England's footballing mediocrity more than any "hand of god" that has kept it from winning a World Cup in over 40 years...Maybe when you host again you'll have a chance. 1986 was Argentina's World Cup no ifs ands or buts.... the only times any teams did any damage- with the one exception of Uruguay (sort of like playing itself for Argentina)- was when Argentina let them (when up against Germany 2-0, England 2-0, etc.).

Tevez' record speaks for itself: championship after championship. Ferguson's choice to play Park over Tevez was his choice. I don't know many managers who would have done the same and the bottom line is with Park and over the hill Giggs (he hardly touched the ball the entire match!) in the starting lineup against Barcelona ManU got spanked by.. yes... another "ugly Argie"......

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 06, 2009, 09:42:46 am
changing the subject, do you man u guys think fergie is done spending for the summer?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 06, 2009, 12:02:19 pm
The biggest problem with Tevez, and what really kept him from resigning with United, is his unhealthy relationship with Kia Joorabchian.  Have you ever wondered why he's played for so many teams in his short career? As great as you think he is Hutch, I agree with SAF and David Gill that Tevez was not worth the money they were asking, especially not with the contractual ties to his agent "owning" his rights.  I agree with others here - he will regret moving to City.

In regards to your inquiry, shoeshine, I think they are done spending this summer, but maybe there's a January move in the pipeline if this season doesn't start like they want it to.

Lastly, and this one's for you, my friend Barcelona...A good friend and drinking buddy of mine is head of Parks here in SF.  He called me this morning to invite me to Barca's practice tomorrow here in SF.  His last question was...

"You have a pair of cleats, right?" 
"Of course," I replied.
"OK - I'll get back to you."

I haven't stopped smiling yet.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 06, 2009, 12:18:51 pm
The biggest problem with Tevez, and what really kept him from resigning with United, is his unhealthy relationship with Kia Joorabchian.  Have you ever wondered why he's played for so many teams in his short career? As great as you think he is Hutch, I agree with SAF and David Gill that Tevez was not worth the money they were asking, especially not with the contractual ties to his agent "owning" his rights.  I agree with others here - he will regret moving to City.
right man u paying (say) corinithians or wet spam 25m would be ok, but paying some dude that much is weird and would not sit well with a top team like man u. i disagree that he'll regret it, though. if for no other reason than he's out from under that terrible relationship, and really shitty were the only team with the scratch and desperation to go down that road

as far as man u go, i'd be a little concerned if i was a fan. the squad seems a little injury prone and less deep than in past seasons. for you fans sake i hope i'm wrong though. luckily i refuse to root for any team that you-know-who plays for...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 06, 2009, 12:22:53 pm
The biggest problem with Tevez, and what really kept him from resigning with United, is his unhealthy relationship with Kia Joorabchian.  As great as you think he is Hutch, I agree with SAF and David Gill that Tevez was not worth the money they were asking, especially not with the contractual ties to his agent "owning" his rights.  I agree with others here - he will regret moving to City.



I agree about the problem of his relationship with Kia although I think people don't realize that for South American soccer players its become more common to have your "pass" or "rights" owned by an "agent" or whatever instead of a club so get used to it!...The clubs down there are all bankrupt cesspools of corruption and these "agents" or gamblers/goldiggers (these are never model citizens!) basically invest in young players place them in the bigger local clubs and then move them along to Europe...The problem has a lot to do with the slave labour system of international soccer.. there is no free agency.. Eduardo Galeano has written a great book covering a lot of this by the way although I'm not sure its been translated to english..

I think it remains to be seen what happens with Tevez at CIty... keep in mind when he left Boca to go to COrinthians everyone said it was a huge mistake ("An argentine can never make it in Brazil") and a few months later -after a tough start- the President of Brazil Lula was asking to meet with him and have his picture taken with him! Then when he went to WestHam everyone said it was a disaster but he singlehandedly saved the team from relegation.. And Tevez doesn't miss penalty kicks in a Champions League final.

If anyone can make it happen at City its Tevez.. on other hand- as I wrote earlier- he may be on the downslope of his career.. not sure he has enough left in the tank..

I honestly find it hard to understand why ManU people would hate on Tevez because anyone who watched him play saw firsthand his desire and the fact that he left it all on the pitch.

The more interesting question for me is who is telling the truth here? Ferguson or Tevez? I have admired both of them but one of them is a downright liar. Based on the facts available to me I really find it hard to believe its Tevez...

Hopefully its ok to post this here on a thread about soccer...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 06, 2009, 12:46:09 pm
Anyways the big news in Argentine newspapers is that ManU is going to make a play for another "ugly Argie" Aguero from Atletico de Madrid....not sure how credible this is...

Aguero definititely has some skills to pay the bills...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 06, 2009, 12:52:02 pm
done? he barely started!!

I think he might have a surprise up his sleeve - just a hunch
changing the subject, do you man u guys think fergie is done spending for the summer?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 06, 2009, 12:53:19 pm
and Kun Aguero has a son with Maradona's daughter!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 06, 2009, 03:36:18 pm
And Tevez doesn't miss penalty kicks in a Champions League final.

Great, but he'll never play in a Champions League game, let alone a Final so long as he's at City.  

I don't know why you're so surprised that United supporters are upset at Tevez - he wasn't exactly gracious in his departure. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 06, 2009, 03:41:28 pm
And Tevez doesn't miss penalty kicks in a Champions League final.

Great, but he'll never play in a Champions League game, let alone a Final so long as he's at City.  

I don't know why you're so surprised that United supporters are upset at Tevez - he wasn't exactly gracious in his departure. 

I actually dont' think United supporters are upset at Tevez.. they're upset at Ferguson.... They wanted Tevez to stay and made that very clear on ample opportunities.. This is why Ferguson made up that he tried to call Tevez to get him to stay etc etc.....

Its the ManU supporters on this thread who seem upset..

Honestly people don't seem very informed on this over here..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 06, 2009, 03:42:28 pm
zzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 06, 2009, 03:47:43 pm
zzzzzzzzzzz

Now THATs what I call a contribution! Thank you!

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 06, 2009, 03:50:28 pm
I actually dont' think United supporters are upset at Tevez.. they're upset at Ferguson.... They wanted Tevez to stay and made that very clear on ample opportunities.. This is why Ferguson made up that he tried to call Tevez to get him to stay etc etc.....

You seem to forget that United made a quality offer that Kia and Carlos rejected, and I don't know of a single United supporter who agreed with Kia and Carlos' counteroffer that insisted that Tevez be the highest paid player at Old Trafford.

They were upset with Fergie during the season for not getting the deal done, sure, but when Fergie came out and said we're having a tough time dealing with Kia because he's insisting that Tevez be the highest paid player at Old Trafford, there was absolutely no outrage from the fans directed at Fergie.

You don't pay a third choice striker top wages.  It's a simple business decision that most folks agree with.  I don't know how you've forgotten about what happened in June and July, but you really do seem to remember April and May pretty well.  Did the Argentine papers go on strike for two months?

Bottome line, you want to be the highest paid striker - then go to a team where you will be the first choice striker, and that's why he's at City and not OT.  It's not because United didn't want to resign him... 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 06, 2009, 03:52:03 pm
Now I'm hearing Kun Aguero perhaps to Chelsea...

Maybe its all just rumours....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 06, 2009, 03:55:48 pm
I actually dont' think United supporters are upset at Tevez.. they're upset at Ferguson.... They wanted Tevez to stay and made that very clear on ample opportunities.. This is why Ferguson made up that he tried to call Tevez to get him to stay etc etc.....

You seem to forget that United made a quality offer that Kia and Carlos rejected, and I don't know of a single United supporter who agreed with Kia and Carlos' counteroffer that insisted that Tevez be the highest paid player at Old Trafford.

They were upset with Fergie during the season for not getting the deal done, sure, but when Fergie came out and said we're having a tough time dealing with Kia because he's insisting that Tevez be the highest paid player at Old Trafford, there was absolutely no outrage from the fans directed at Fergie.

You don't pay a third choice striker top wages.  It's a simple business decision that most folks agree with.  I don't know how you've forgotten about what happened in June and July, but you really do seem to remember April and May pretty well.  Did the Argentine papers go on strike for two months?

Bottome line, you want to be the highest paid striker - then go to a team where you will be the first choice striker, and that's why he's at City and not OT.  It's not because United didn't want to resign him... 

Well perhaps you're right...

I don't remember the exact timing.. I don't know that ManU fans weren't trying to have Tevez re-sign in June..

My feeling is that the ManU fans generally wanted Tevez back and Fergie made up a bunch of baloney to justify not signing him including that he'd tried, that they'd made this offer or that, that he was asking for the most money; my feeling is this is all baloney.. Then again its just a feeling.. I have as much evidence as you do for your assertions which really read like ManU PR more than what happened.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 06, 2009, 03:58:43 pm
But maybe not.. I suppose if the money he got from City is more than ManU pays any of their players then you'd be right!

Anyways I'm going to stop talking about this.. I do look forward to Tevez shutting all of you up but we'll have to see if he can do it!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 06, 2009, 04:02:28 pm
who cares, all the blame it the world isnt going to bring tevez back, and if you support man u, i would hope you'd take sir alex over anyone

i like tevez more than i like teams that employ he-who-must-not-be-named

which reminds me, have i brought up my spencer pratt theory of football watching?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 06, 2009, 04:02:37 pm
(http://blog.taragana.com/sports/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/carlos-tevez-manchester.jpg)

I could list the newspapers that reported that Tevez insisted that he be the highest paid player at OT, but you could simply google it.  It's clear that your love of Tevez is beyond reproach.

And yes, I believe the United Press release that stated:

"Following contact received from Carlos Tevez's advisors last night, in advance of the deadline the Club set for concluding negotiations, Manchester United announces that Carlos will not be signing a new contract with the Club.

"The Club agreed to pay the option price of 25.5 million pounds and offered Carlos a five-year contract which would have made him one of its highest paid players.

"Disappointingly however, his advisors informed the Club that, despite the success he has enjoyed during one of the Club's most successful periods, he does not wish to continue playing for Manchester United.

"The Club would like to thank Carlos for his services over the last two seasons and wishes him good luck for the future."

I have no reason not to.  And Tevez hasn't denied it either.  He simply said that if United really wanted to sign him the could have come up with the money.  No, actually, Carlos, there was no need.  That's not the OT way.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 06, 2009, 04:06:29 pm
I actually wouldn't put Tevez in my Argentina starting lineup so my love for him doesn't trump everything.

I am a Boca Juniors man through and through though...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 06, 2009, 04:11:52 pm
But maybe not.. I suppose if the money he got from City is more than ManU pays any of their players then you'd be right!

It's fucking amazing to me that you don't know any of this stuff yet you keep spouting off as if we're the one's that don't know what we're talking about.

Tevez makes 140,000 a week at City.

United offered him 95,000, but he insisted he make what United's highest paid players make.  That would be Rio and Berbatov who make 110000.

So please, shut the hell up.  You couldn't be more annoying now.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 06, 2009, 04:13:18 pm
which reminds me, have i brought up my spencer pratt theory of football watching?

I'm all ears...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 06, 2009, 04:26:26 pm
140k??? jesus christ

anyway, with the toon down and maybe on tv only once or twice a month, i have to fill the void somehow. i actually watch 2-3 matches every weekend if i'm home (which i usually am), so i was left with a choice. do i 1) watch serie a where i kind of support roma (ugh) 2) try la liga and pick a team (meh) 3) follow another prem side

following another prem side is a dicey proposition. if the toon come back, i'd have to go back to hating whoever i follow this year. that lead me to the 'spencer pratt' theory. just root for the biggest bag of cunts in the league. i guess that would either be chelsea or man city. shitty would be more fun to watch, though. once the toon come back up i just say 'god spencer being mean to heidi's mom is the LAST STRAW' and go back to newcastle. if not, i continue to laugh while they disrupt the workings of bigger clubs

no one is going to understand all of the hills stuff but smackie, but whatever

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 06, 2009, 08:20:24 pm
Tevezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


I was going to put my tuppence worth in but smackie pretty much said everything...factually...unlike the Tevez loving 'lets make shit up as I go along' hutch. I will say I was never against him because he's an argie, but because of the way he's conducted himself, even waving goodbye to the OT faithfull before negotiations were over. I was never in love with Ronaldo either, a great player but never a United player really. No George Best that's for sure.

And shoeshine, I never slagged off Mikey, I only slagged you off for calling him Mike. I said he's extremely injury prone and Toon were idiots for spending that much money on him. I think United paid NOTHING for him and he's on a mainly performance based compensation package if I'm not mistaken.


I guess you missed my sarcasm with my 'hand of God' comment.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 06, 2009, 10:29:36 pm
oh come on, you slagged him off a bit
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  what? newcastle has given up two goals in the past month
 
 newcastle has been my team since 1997, but i have not had regular access to matches until the past few years
 
 pisstaking aside, this summer is going to be big for roy. he really needs to improve that squad, and he might have to go beyond ireland, manusa castoffs and celtic alsorans
I agree...what's up with that with Keano? I'm just grateful Fergie isn't as narrow minded as Keano... Wenger (french) and Benitez (spanish). Imagine where United would be if he only used jocks and Aberdeen also-rans!!!   :eek:  
 
 As for toon, permaboy needs to stop obsessing about Mikey Owen, who should be following the footsteps of Becks and enjoying the twilight of his career in the MLS. He's  making the mistake of building a team around an almost hasbeen. Owen has one more season at the top level left in him in my opnion
but you were right there, and are right that we were idiots to pay that much for him, and that its a good idea for united

the reasons i dislike him so much will have no bearing on what he does for you guys
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 07, 2009, 07:20:39 pm
Lastly, and this one's for you, my friend Barcelona...A good friend and drinking buddy of mine is head of Parks here in SF.  He called me this morning to invite me to Barca's practice tomorrow here in SF. 

It's twice as funny because I'm such the gadget guy, but truth is smackette is the photographer in the house so I kind of ignore the digital camera stuff, but I spent the morning with Barcelona's squad and was in relatively good position to see them as evidenced by the picture below, but in the end I had my camera set to black and white so all 36 pictures are B&W!!!!!

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3543/3799596926_c8a50af75b.jpg)   
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 08, 2009, 05:43:23 pm
oh come on, you slagged him off a bit
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  what? newcastle has given up two goals in the past month
 
 newcastle has been my team since 1997, but i have not had regular access to matches until the past few years
 
 pisstaking aside, this summer is going to be big for roy. he really needs to improve that squad, and he might have to go beyond ireland, manusa castoffs and celtic alsorans
I agree...what's up with that with Keano? I'm just grateful Fergie isn't as narrow minded as Keano... Wenger (french) and Benitez (spanish). Imagine where United would be if he only used jocks and Aberdeen also-rans!!!   :eek:  
 
 As for toon, permaboy needs to stop obsessing about Mikey Owen, who should be following the footsteps of Becks and enjoying the twilight of his career in the MLS. He's  making the mistake of building a team around an almost hasbeen. Owen has one more season at the top level left in him in my opnion
but you were right there, and are right that we were idiots to pay that much for him, and that its a good idea for united

the reasons i dislike him so much will have no bearing on what he does for you guys

I don't think thats slagging him, off it's just my opinion......in fact, that statement of mine is rather prophetic. he prorbably does have 1 more season at the top level, he hardly played at all last season so didn't count....and Toon "top level"??????
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 09, 2009, 06:39:36 pm
man do i feel bad for harper

not sure what to take away from the match. thats got to be one of the hardest fixtures of the season, and toon got a point without playing well. who knows how many of those guys will be around next month
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 09, 2009, 06:46:50 pm
Tevezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


I was going to put my tuppence worth in but smackie pretty much said everything...factually...unlike the Tevez loving 'lets make shit up as I go along' hutch. I will say I was never against him because he's an argie, but because of the way he's conducted himself, even waving goodbye to the OT faithfull before negotiations were over. I was never in love with Ronaldo either, a great player but never a United player really. No George Best that's for sure.

And shoeshine, I never slagged off Mikey, I only slagged you off for calling him Mike. I said he's extremely injury prone and Toon were idiots for spending that much money on him. I think United paid NOTHING for him and he's on a mainly performance based compensation package if I'm not mistaken.


I guess you missed my sarcasm with my 'hand of God' comment.

Yeah well you could have used him today to make a penalty kick thats for sure..

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2009, 12:54:43 pm
Yeah well you could have used him today to make a penalty kick thats for sure..

Thank you for reminding me.  The Community Shield.....another competition Carlos Tevez will likely never play in again.

As for the game - the first half United looked great.  The second half much less fluid and Ballack's a cunt, but we've always known this.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 10, 2009, 01:07:42 pm
gone from bickering about carlos tevez to the community shield. by next week we'll be on league 2
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2009, 01:29:13 pm
gone from bickering about carlos tevez to the community shield. by next week we'll be on league 2

Didn't we skip the Coca-Cola league?

Anyhow, you're right - if the Toon can keep their players, they should fair well this season.  If not....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 10, 2009, 01:38:12 pm
gone from bickering about carlos tevez to the community shield. by next week we'll be on league 2

Didn't we skip the Coca-Cola league?

figure we'd be done there tomorrow

lots of rumors flying today. i cant see the toon holding on to jonas or colo. neither of whom looked very good this weekend. colo was shocking in fact
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2009, 01:47:52 pm
lots of rumors flying today. i cant see the toon holding on to jonas or colo. neither of whom looked very good this weekend. colo was shocking in fact

I knew it was a bad sign when I heard Jonas was willing to go to Greece...but that does mean European Football for him since they drew FC Sherriff (I had to look that one up...Moldova).  And agreed, Colo was horrendous.

It looks like FSC coverage of the Champions league will start with Celtic-Arsenal.  That's exciting.

And Jozy got his work permit so we may get to see him on Saturday, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2009, 01:55:08 pm
It's quite embarrassing that no US based carrier is going to show a World Cup qualifier against Mexico on it's network....

Nonetheless, NBC Universal has agreed to make the Spanish channel available to the US audience on Wednesday, if your TV provider carries it (hope you have satellite TV):

WORLD CUP QUALIFIER

Wednesday August 12

3:00PM Mexico vs. United States (Mun2 - DirectTV Channel 410 and Dish Network Channel 838)

Mun2 will have an English option (though you get Marcelo Balboa, so you may opt for the Spanish feed on Telemundo)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 10, 2009, 01:57:46 pm
lots of rumors flying today. i cant see the toon holding on to jonas or colo. neither of whom looked very good this weekend. colo was shocking in fact

I knew it was a bad sign when I heard Jonas was willing to go to Greece...but that does mean European Football for him since they drew FC Sherriff (I had to look that one up...Moldova).  And agreed, Colo was horrendous.

It looks like FSC coverage of the Champions league will start with Celtic-Arsenal.  That's exciting.

And Jozy got his work permit so we may get to see him on Saturday, but I doubt it.
moldovia has a league? no way

i think what jonas really cares about at this point is sticking in the national team side. he does a lot of things well, he just cant deliver the final ball worth a damn. playing it the cl will at least get him exposure, even if its greek

i might disagree on jozy. i bet he comes on for the last 20 at least. phil brown was desperate to make a name signing, and jozy is it
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 10, 2009, 07:49:11 pm
OK well if you wish to limit this thread to three people I guess I'll leave.



Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 11, 2009, 12:40:53 am
So it turns out that Mexico wanted $3M for the broadcast rights and nobody would pay that.  According to my buddy at Setanta that's more than 3X what a US match usually costs.  That's why Telemundo picked it up for the Spanish language and there was no English speaking channel willing, hence all the trickery with Mun2.  I'm still watching Telemundo because anything short of a win will mean elimination for Mexico and I want to hear what they have to say about that.

In addtion, I was searching the guide for next week's champions league matches and it turns out that the FSN regional channels are listing the match in addition to FSC.  There's no HD symbol next to it yet, but I can't see why they would show it on those channels in addition to FSC if it wasn't going to be in HD.  Watch this space....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 11, 2009, 09:24:21 am
why the heck is it on in the middle of the afternoon on a wednesday? how do they expect to get $3m for that
OK well if you wish to limit this thread to three people I guess I'll leave.
sorry i dont find carlos tevez as central to the worlds game as you
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 11, 2009, 03:28:41 pm
why the heck is it on in the middle of the afternoon on a wednesday? how do they expect to get $3m for that

Mexico will shut down for that, so I guess will half of the southwestern US.  But I agree you...the Gold Cup ratings will not happen for this one.

And I also digress...the Chelsea v Hull City match (7:45AM Saturday morning) is not listed on FSC or Setanta, adding fuel to the speculation that ESPN2 will be picking up this timeslot and half the Monday Night matches.  I'm not posting this weekends schedule until the official announcement.   
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 12, 2009, 03:26:05 pm
Friendly result

Argentina 3- Russia 2  in Moscow

Some horrible D by Russia..

Nice play by Aguero.. Messi out of lineup due to pulled muscle or somesuch..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 12, 2009, 06:44:28 pm
why the heck is it on in the middle of the afternoon on a wednesday? how do they expect to get $3m for that
OK well if you wish to limit this thread to three people I guess I'll leave.
sorry i dont find carlos tevez as central to the worlds game as you

Who?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 13, 2009, 02:33:22 pm
US loses to Mexico 2-1.. very dissapointing..

I think the US should have played far more agressive after going up 1-0 early..

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 13, 2009, 02:42:55 pm
The same thing that cost the US against Brazil in the Confed Cup cost them against Mexico -   They don't understand the value of possession. 

As long as the other team holds the ball at a ratio of 2-1 to you, you won't be successful against the best squads in the world.  And Mexico is far from one of the best squads in the world.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 13, 2009, 02:54:02 pm
and thats the thing really with the u.s.

physically we have a huge back line, and our fast guys are genuinely fast, but the possession passing and skill on the ball just arent there. thats why they have to play long so much and win free kicks
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 14, 2009, 07:14:09 am
It's been a while since I've been able to suffer through a US game (MLS included) no offense intended, but the problem with the mentality over here is they play a very passive game and concentrate  only on trying to prevent the other team from scoring. Also if they do go a goal up they don't know how to go for the jugular.

Maybe it's changed now but that's why I gave up on DC United when I lived up there, neither team ever seemed to want to score, or even go after the ball.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 14, 2009, 08:29:42 am
the u.s. isnt the prettiest national team to watch, but (no offense or anything) england national team matches arent the most beautiful thing either. especially not worth ppv, and i like english players a lot. i guess the national team is the national team if youre a footie fan

as far as mls goes, i watch maybe 3 matches a year. i have tickets to see golden balls here next weekend, though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 14, 2009, 09:15:59 am
Thought this might of interest to some of you....

Ash runs their own Fantasy Premiere League, info posted here

http://www.ash-official.com/details.aspx?categoryid=3n&id=f9001c35-91d7-4a3c-990e-e78a46af1a87
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 14, 2009, 10:11:59 am
Again reports that Man U is set to make a bid for Kun Aguero and had people at the Argentina-Russia game.. I think likely these reports might be fake though but can't be sure..THey are citing a newspaper called "Marca" from Spain I think....

http://www.clarin.com/diario/2009/08/14/um/m-01978431.htm
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 14, 2009, 11:06:56 am
rumors flying that there is going to be a bunch of player movement tyneside, which to me says that ashley is staying  ::)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 14, 2009, 12:45:18 pm
rumors flying that there is going to be a bunch of player movement tyneside, which to me says that ashley is staying  ::)

You mean like Danny Simpson?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 14, 2009, 01:02:02 pm
Saturday, August 15

9:30am Blackburn vs Man City (Set)
10:00am Aston Villa v Wigan (FSC)
12:15pm Coca-Cola Championship - Newcastle vs Reading (Set)
12:30pm Everton v Arsenal (FSC)
2:30pm Stoke City v Burnley (FSC)
5:00pm Wolverhampton vs West Ham (Set) (also on at 10AM on Set Xtra)
6:45pm Portsmouth vs Fulham (Set)

Sunday, August 16

8:25am Man Utd vs Birmingham (Set)
11:00am Tottenham v Liverpool (FSC)

So still no word on Chelsea v Hull City on ESPN2, but I just can't see that deal not getting done.  I would expect the match to be on at 7:45am on the deuce.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 14, 2009, 01:10:38 pm
rumors flying that there is going to be a bunch of player movement tyneside, which to me says that ashley is staying  ::)

You mean like Danny Simpson?
danny simpson in (thoughts?) and duff to fulham are the two most likely. steven taylor to everton, argies and nolan to wherever are gaining some steam. supposed to get some young spurs on loan, ect.

i'm going to be bummed if we dont get chelsea/team jozy. the lunch game is the best thing first weekend
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 14, 2009, 01:26:09 pm
\i'm going to be bummed if we dont get chelsea/team jozy. the lunch game is the best thing first weekend

I'm hearing that FSC will play the game if the deal doesn't get done, ESPN2 if it does get done.  The other rumor is that the hangup is that ESPN only wants it if they can also get HD rights, which apparently Fox doesn't have, so ESPN is negotiating with Fox and Sky (which is ironic since they're both owned by Rupert).  Fox is in a huge bind here.  They're on the hook for $4.75M and want ESPN to pick up some of that, but if ESPN is out of the box with HD, that puts a ton of pressure on Fox to have HD sooner than Jan 2010.  Awesome.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 14, 2009, 01:31:43 pm
danny simpson in (thoughts?)

He didn't play much for United, but was a constant in Blackburn's squad for the first half of last season.  Fell out of favor in the second half (not sure why) and never played for them again.  He looked fine when I saw him last season, but apparently struggled against the top teams in the Prem. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 15, 2009, 09:01:59 pm
I must admit, I didn't see a 6-1 thrashing of Everton by Arse coming. I expect Arse to struggle for a top 6 spot this season, still do but maybe there's more than meets the eye with no more clashes of egos etc.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 15, 2009, 09:08:15 pm
the u.s. isnt the prettiest national team to watch, but (no offense or anything) england national team matches arent the most beautiful thing either. especially not worth ppv, and i like english players a lot. i guess the national team is the national team if youre a footie fan

as far as mls goes, i watch maybe 3 matches a year. i have tickets to see golden balls here next weekend, though

None taken - I believe I'm on record on this thread as stating that England are probaly the worlds biggest underachievers.  As a squad I'd say England is the most talented team in the world on paper. I put it down to a combination of the wrong manager and lack of chemistry. I think the manager issue has been addressed so hopefully he can also get some chemistry going.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 16, 2009, 08:47:24 pm
I must admit, I didn't see a 6-1 thrashing of Everton by Arse coming. I expect Arse to struggle for a top 6 spot this season, still do but maybe there's more than meets the eye with no more clashes of egos etc.

They were by far the best looking squad this weekend.  Sure, Everton couldn't mark to save their lives, but Arsenal kept the ball moving nicely.  Chelsea deserved a draw at best and Liverpool were horrible - a well earned Spurs victory. Wigan were surprisingly strong as well. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 17, 2009, 09:17:11 am
I must admit, I didn't see a 6-1 thrashing of Everton by Arse coming. I expect Arse to struggle for a top 6 spot this season, still do but maybe there's more than meets the eye with no more clashes of egos etc.

They were by far the best looking squad this weekend.  Sure, Everton couldn't mark to save their lives, but Arsenal kept the ball moving nicely.  Chelsea deserved a draw at best and Liverpool were horrible - a well earned Spurs victory. Wigan were surprisingly strong as well. 

I'm nothing short of amazed that United were able to show up sans Tevez. ;)

I think we'll see a few 1-0 2-1's for the first 1/3 of the season till we find our post Ronaldo mojo. SAF may have to dig into his transfer kitty to figure out the defensive injury problem though, or we'll get torn apart by Arse in a couple of weeks and we aren't quite there yet for a shoot-out type of game.

I'm loving the fact that the tabloids faves for the title this year got a serious smackdown by 'Arry and the boys at White Hart Lane yesterday. They score on a penalty then have the nerve to piss and moan that they weren't awared two more......scum, just stinky smelly steaming scum that breeds on the turd of more scum
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 17, 2009, 12:41:54 pm
With the new broadcasters taking over the Champions League, I'll have to think about the best way to show the new schedule.  For right now I'm going to do it this way...Setanta is likely to broadcast the Prem League on their main channel and may do the Champs League on the extra channel.  If not, expect delayed coverage on Setanta.

MATCH (network/DirecTV channel)



Tuesday, August 18

2:40pm Premier League - Sunderland vs Chelsea (Set/621)
2:45pm Champions League Celtic vs Arsenal (FSNHD/466)
2:45pm Champions League Sporting Lisbon vs Fiorentina (Setanta Xtra maybe?/622)      
2:45pm Champions League FC Sherriff vs. Olympiacos (FSC/464)   
2:45pm Champions League Timisoara vs Stuttgart (Fox Sports Espanol/462)   
2:45pm Champions League F.C. Copehagen vs. APOEL (DirecTV 463 only)   
4:45pm Champions League Sporting Lisbon vs Fiorentina (Set Delayed)
8:15pm Champions League FC Sheriff vs Olympiacos (Set Delayed)


Wedensday, August 19

2:40pm Premier League - Burnley vs Man Utd (Set/621)
2:45pm Champions League Olympique Lyon vs Anderlecht (FSC/464)   
2:45pm Champions League Panathinaikos vs Athletico Madrid (Fox en Espanol/466?)   
2:45pm Champions League Salzburg vs Maccabi Haifa (Setanta Extra maybe?/622) 
2:45pm Champions League Ventspils vs Zurich (DirecTV only 462) 
2:45pm Champions League Levski Sofia vs Debreceni VSC (DirecTV only 463)
4:45pm Premier League - Hull vs Tottenham (Set Delayed)
8:15pm Champions League - Panathinaikos vs Atletico Madrid (Set Delayed)
10:00pm Champions League - Lyon vs Anderlecht (Set Delayed)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 17, 2009, 12:56:10 pm
are we thinking that the celtic/arsenal match is in hd then? (pleasepleaseplease)

i didnt watch any matches yesterday (but 4 on saturday). even when arsenal came out i really wondered how much theyd miss adebayor. i dont think this side will hurt for goals this year

thought newcastle looked really good against reading. withholding final judgement until after the window closes, though

man city have the biggest bunch of asshole soccer players on the planet. stupid bels almost ruined saturday for me with his constant offsides

i actually thought chelsea were dominant in the second half

the window being open during the first couple makes it hard to do predictions, but i really wonder about not only everton but villa as well. they added nothing, and you have spurs and shitty spending big. 6th cant be good enough for their supporters
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 17, 2009, 01:04:41 pm
are we thinking that the celtic/arsenal match is in hd then? (pleasepleaseplease)

There is an HD logo next to the game on 466 and all through out the regional channels in the 600's so I'm guessing yes. 

The downside is there is also an HD logo next to all of the other games listed in the 460's, and I know for a fact that the FSC and Setanta games will not be in HD. Those however, do not have the logo in the 600's, so I'm guessing the only reason why Fox would move their premier game (Arsenal vs Celtic) from FSC to the regional FSN's is because the regionals are capable of broadcasting in HD.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 17, 2009, 01:06:21 pm
i'm guessing stupid comcast sports net will screw me out of getting it on hd there. but the mirror should work, right?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 17, 2009, 01:09:24 pm
i didnt watch any matches yesterday (but 4 on saturday). even when arsenal came out i really wondered how much theyd miss adebayor. i dont think this side will hurt for goals this year

They really need to do everything they can to hold onto Fabregas.  It was fairly evident to me yesterday how much a different squad they are when he's on the pitch.  Those 4 months without him last season were very telling.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 17, 2009, 01:14:39 pm
i'm guessing stupid comcast sports net will screw me out of getting it on hd there. but the mirror should work, right?

That's the million dollar question.  I'm in a Comcast Sportsnet area too and the game is not listed as HD in my guide (if you are 642, then you are listed as having the game in HD).  I'm hoping they do a west coast mirror and east coast mirror and that's it.  If they do eveyone's regional mirror (which is extremely tough to do) we may not get it in HD.  They have not blacked out the regional FSN's for soccer though so we may still get it as part of the sports pack.

My plan is to record the mirror and a regional FSN and see if either of those are in HD.  I'll record Chelsea and Sporting on my other DVR.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 17, 2009, 01:35:44 pm
that sounds like a good plan. i'm unlikely to watch more than one match on tuesday
i didnt watch any matches yesterday (but 4 on saturday). even when arsenal came out i really wondered how much theyd miss adebayor. i dont think this side will hurt for goals this year

They really need to do everything they can to hold onto Fabregas.  It was fairly evident to me yesterday how much a different squad they are when he's on the pitch.  Those 4 months without him last season were very telling.
i agree. similar to essien at chelsea, except arsenal doesnt have ballack and lamps and obi mikel ect

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 18, 2009, 12:13:15 pm
next question: which wednesday game should i dvr to watch friday night?

actually never mind. forgot about the prem midweekers, gotta go with spurs/jozy
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2009, 02:29:14 pm
It's good to get out from his wages, but what was the loss on Duff?

Duff completes 4m transfer to Fulham (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=668506&sec=transfers&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 18, 2009, 02:39:21 pm
1m. we bought him for 5m because no one else wanted to pay a has been 70k a week

this is way better business than most toon supporters hoped for
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2009, 02:44:58 pm
1m. we bought him for 5m because no one else wanted to pay a has been 70k a week

this is way better business than most toon supporters hoped for

Oh yeah, that's not a loss at all.  I might even call 4m a win...

FYI - I'm not watching footie until tonight so I will not be returning to this thread.  Text me if I need to know anything not score related.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 18, 2009, 02:55:00 pm
after 2 season at his age its really really good business

none of the sales have been bad yet. i want to say the only two players we paid over 7m for in the last 3 years are collo and oba. we only lost 1m on oba, though we'll take a beating on the argie i bet

looks like smudger and barton are going to stay and i think they are next on the fee scale. the last manager to get backed fully in the sense of transfer fees was souness (remember him?), since then its the wages that have been killer. i think last season we had 13 players on over 50k/week when everton had none (or a couple around that mark depending on who you believe)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 19, 2009, 12:32:18 pm
Speaking of Everton...Lescott out of the squad for today's Europa match is abad sign for their season.  I've loved his play since Wolves.  Him an Micah Richards in the back 4 could make up for the holes that are Dunn and whomever else Toure replaced.

Richards, Lescott, Toure, Bridge and Dunn....That's not actually terrible.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 19, 2009, 12:59:34 pm
i think they might offer dunne in part exchange

everton is one of those sides that seem like they never should come in 5-7 but do pretty regularly. i think if you support them you trust in moyes and at the same time you pray

oh and i thought celtic were shocking yesterday
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 19, 2009, 01:18:12 pm
New important Tevez news for all the Tevez lovers (Frank Gallagher I'm looking at you! :))!!!!!!!

Tevez has offered to teach Oasis' Gallagher brothers the latin cumbia song/dance in exchange for them teaching him "Wonderwall"

http://www.si.clarin.com/2009/08/18/info/01980716.html

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 19, 2009, 11:37:07 pm
So, I actually had to watch this twice just to see what the hell happened.

Burnley's keeper was incredible.
Why was Giggs playing in the middle and Anderson on the left wing? No, SERIOUSLY?  Why was Giggs in the middle and Anderson on the left wing?!?
Owen missed some very open chances that he has to put away if he wants to remain the choice above Macheda, but was onside when his goal was disallowed (well, saved first, and the rebound went in).
Why with Owen, Rooney and Giggs on the pitch did Carrick take the PK?
Wes Brown looked overmatched in the middle.

Nonetheless, all credit to Burnley.  They showed what happens when you play with heart as opposed to United who sort of expected something to fall their way instead of going out and getting it for themselves.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2009, 01:11:57 am
So, I actually had to watch this twice just to see what the hell happened.

Burnley's keeper was incredible.
Why was Giggs playing in the middle and Anderson on the left wing? No, SERIOUSLY?  Why was Giggs in the middle and Anderson on the left wing?!?
Owen missed some very open chances that he has to put away if he wants to remain the choice above Macheda, but was onside when his goal was disallowed (well, saved first, and the rebound went in).
Why with Owen, Rooney and Giggs on the pitch did Carrick take the PK?
Wes Brown looked overmatched in the middle.

Nonetheless, all credit to Burnley.  They showed what happens when you play with heart as opposed to United who sort of expected something to fall their way instead of going out and getting it for themselves.

Maybe Tevez could have helped? I hope Owen turns up his game...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 20, 2009, 10:12:00 am
So, I actually had to watch this twice just to see what the hell happened.
i didnt watch the match (though i intend to tomorrow night) but isnt this typical for man u in august? i dont know that i like your squad nearly as much as i have in the past, though

didnt see toon either, but another win and another goal for shola. good for him, but the whole sale debacle has got to be put to rest.

have tickets for dc united/golden balls this weekend. pretty excited
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2009, 10:34:05 am
More Tevez related news:

Man City 1- Barcelona 0
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2009, 10:03:33 am
hey smackie, i saw a commercial for a la liga sunday match coming soon to espn2. any idea if its going to be hd?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2009, 04:48:28 pm
hey smackie, i saw a commercial for a la liga sunday match coming soon to espn2. any idea if its going to be hd?

Obviously we won't know until the first match, but the games are broadcast in Spain in HD and ESPN is far ahead of others at converting international signals to US HD signals.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if the game is available in HD (and most Real and Barca matches, which I suspect will be the majority of the matches chosen), then ESPN2 will broadcast the game in HD.  This is exactly how it is in England, BTW. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 22, 2009, 11:05:22 am
so Man U - Wigan is on ESPN2 today - what a nice surprise - feed is  not HD however and is also terrible, breaking up every 5 minutes or so
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 23, 2009, 06:22:53 pm
yeah was it like up-converted or something? it had some weird ghosts going on

has a pretty good time at dcu though. i plan on going back

this not being able to see newcastle matches is pretty frustrating though. theyre actually winning for fucks sake
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 24, 2009, 10:34:48 pm
The picture on the L'pool match today was gorgeous.  There were still some starts and stops, but all in all an improvement over FSC or Setanta. 

Finally got around to seeing Jozy's debut today as well.  Brilliant.  Could have better if he would have passed a little more, but I'm going to be watching a lot of Hull City matches this season.  Loved the Brits doing the USA chant every time he touched the ball.

EDIT: I'm told what we got on Saturday morning was 16x9 576i (which would make sense if it was taken from the original British broadcast). It was still better than 4x3 480i, the standard for FSC and Setanta.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 24, 2009, 11:23:44 pm
I've just finished the first of few rough weekends coming up so the schedule may be not as timely as you're used to, but it will improve by the end of September:

UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

TUESDAY, AUGUST 25

02:30 pm Atl. Madrid v Panathinaikos (Regional Fox Sports HD/Comcast SportsNet HD)
02:30 pm Maccabi Haifa v Salzburg (FSC)
02:40 pm   Anderlecht vs Lyon (Set)
05:00 pm Anderlecht v Olympique Lyonnais (FSC)
07:00 pm Atl. Madrid v Panathinaikos (FSC)
08:15 pm   Debrecen vs Levski Sofia (Set)

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 26

02:30 pm Arsenal v Celtic (FSC)
02:40 pm   Olympiacos vs FC Sheriff (Set)
05:00 pm Fiorentina v Sporting Lisbon (FSC)
06:30 pm   Fiorentina vs Sporting Lisbon (Set)


THURSDAY, AUGUST 27

12:00 pm   LIVE UEFA Champions League - Group Stages Draw (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 25, 2009, 01:16:19 pm
speaking of liverpool, its early but i can see this being a tough year for them. frankly i'm rooting harder for that than ever considering what their supporters did to steven cohen
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 27, 2009, 11:48:52 am
Him an Micah Richards in the back 4 could make up for the holes that are Dunne

Dunne Sold to Villa (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=671140&sec=transfers&cc=5901)

Not that hard to predict.

The Chanpions League draw on the other hand, a little tougher to predict.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 27, 2009, 11:54:54 am
very good news. one less team interested in taylor
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 27, 2009, 12:34:35 pm
I don't like going to Russia (or Turkey) in the winter, but I'll take CSKA Moscow over Juve/Real/Porto/Lyon/Inter...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 27, 2009, 01:16:55 pm
(or germany). arse and sevilla have freaking easy groups
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2009, 12:21:05 pm
Saturday, August 29

4:45am Chelsea vs. Burnley (ESPN2HD)
9:30am Bolton vs Liverpool (Set)
10:00am Tottenham v Birmingham City (FSC)
12:00pm Manchester Utd. v Arsenal (FSC)
5:00pm Stoke City v Sunderland (FSC)
6:45pm Blackburn vs West Ham (Set)
8:30pm Bolton vs Liverpool (Set)
12:00am Wolves vs Hull (Set)


Sunday, August 30
 
8:25am Portsmouth vs Man City (Set)
10:00am Everton v Wigan (FSC)
1:00pm Coca-Cola Championship - Nottingham Forest vs Derby County (Set)
8:00pm Aston Villa v Fulham (FSC)
 

If Jozy maintains his current form, good luck not finding out the result of his Saturday match before midnight....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 28, 2009, 01:50:38 pm
i dont know if i'm going to be able to watch anything this week, but man arsenal/man u is tasty

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 31, 2009, 09:46:43 pm
(or germany). arse and sevilla have freaking easy groups

arse get an easy group and you sound surprised????? I've yet to figure out how Platini and his band of gangsters fiddle that shit.......but I will.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 01, 2009, 09:15:25 am
i didnt say i was surprised, but if manu switched groups with arsenal i'd still like both to go through. not a big fan of the group stages to begin with

looks like nothing big on deadline day so far
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on September 02, 2009, 11:23:24 am
Question: what is SETANTA PREMIUM and are there bars around town that carry that?

I'd like to see the Argentina-Brazil qualifier this weekend but have no earthly clue where to watch it!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 02, 2009, 11:33:13 am
Question: what is SETANTA PREMIUM and are there bars around town that carry that?

I'd like to see the Argentina-Brazil qualifier this weekend but have no earthly clue where to watch it!

It's a pay-per-view channel that is only on satellite or select bars.  I would check the Cap Lounge, Lucky Bar or Summers (http://www.summers-restaurant.com/) in VA.

There's probably been a few more added since I left, but someone else will have to provide that info.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on September 02, 2009, 11:33:34 am
you can watch it at Fado for $10

http://www.fadoirishpub.com/washington/

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on September 02, 2009, 11:40:16 am
Good to know thanks.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 02, 2009, 11:40:22 am
I'd pay $10 to watch Hutch watch Maradona's last game in charge, but I'd pay $1000 to watch the Maradona self-destruction after he gets canned....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on September 02, 2009, 11:55:30 am
I'd pay $10 to watch Hutch watch Maradona's last game in charge, but I'd pay $1000 to watch the Maradona self-destruction after he gets canned....

I'd probably pay for that too.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 02, 2009, 02:49:38 pm
Lastly, and this one's for you, my friend Barcelona...A good friend and drinking buddy of mine is head of Parks here in SF.  He called me this morning to invite me to Barca's practice tomorrow here in SF. 

It's twice as funny because I'm such the gadget guy, but truth is smackette is the photographer in the house so I kind of ignore the digital camera stuff, but I spent the morning with Barcelona's squad and was in relatively good position to see them as evidenced by the picture below, but in the end I had my camera set to black and white so all 36 pictures are B&W!!!!!

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3543/3799596926_c8a50af75b.jpg)   

Hey, had been pretty much on vacation from the board for the last three months. Getting back now. Do you have a link to the pictures you took? these unofficial pictures tend to be the best ones, you see who gets along with who, the mood in the day-to-day life of the team...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 02, 2009, 03:34:42 pm
Do you have a link to the pictures you took? these unofficial pictures tend to be the best ones, you see who gets along with who, the mood in the day-to-day life of the team...

Knock yourself out.

http://picasaweb.google.com/vansmackCA/Barcelona?authkey=Gv1sRgCMTfg8S1wOSdqwE&feat=directlink
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 03, 2009, 09:51:44 am
Tee hee hee

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8236187.stm

cheaters never prosper
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 03, 2009, 11:52:27 am
Ouch.  

However I'm going to refrain from additional comments as a similar complaint was waged against United by Le Havre for taking France's youth team skipper Paul Pogba.  Hopefully this was by the book, but just in case...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 04, 2009, 05:30:45 pm
Ouch.  

However I'm going to refrain from additional comments as a similar complaint was waged against United by Le Havre for taking France's youth team skipper Paul Pogba.  Hopefully this was by the book, but just in case...
its fifa and uefa targeting big spending english clubs. coming from a chelsea hater, this is an overly harsh punishment (newcastle got fined less than 700k for the zogs affair if i remember correctly) and just brings us one step closer to a european super league
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2009, 01:20:11 pm
Hutch, I promise not to mention Argentina for the rest of the day.

After watching two US Matches, I can't wait for the Prem League to start back up. Painful to watch that squad...

Saturday, Sept 12

9:55AM Liverpool vs Burnley (ESPN2HD)
9:55AM Man City vs Arsenal (SET)
10:00AM Stoke City v Chelsea (FSC)
12:30PM Tottenham v Manchester Utd. (FSC)
5:00PM Sunderland v Hull City (FSC)
6:45PM Wigan vs West Ham (Set)
10:15PM Portsmouth vs Bolton (Set)
 

Sunday, Sept 13

6:55AM Birmingham vs Aston Villa (FSC)
11:00AM Fulham v Everton (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 11, 2009, 02:05:18 pm
9:55AM Liverpool vs Burnley (ESPN2HD)
9:55AM Man City vs Arsenal (SET)
i'm torn here. i'm about 100 times more interested in shitty arse, but hd is hd
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2009, 02:26:48 pm
9:55AM Liverpool vs Burnley (ESPN2HD)
9:55AM Man City vs Arsenal (SET)
i'm torn here. i'm about 100 times more interested in shitty arse, but hd is hd

Less so for me.  I'll be watching Shitty-Arse because I know ESPN has been showing the scores across the bottom.  That game has the potential to be too good to know the ending of ahead of time (and I have to watch United live).  Now if ESPN didn't show the ticker, I'd watch the HD game first.  Either way, gonna be a long day for this guy with all the footie and college football.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 11, 2009, 02:41:52 pm
yeah i guess youre right. i could give a toss if i know the result of the liverpool match

i'll likely dvr united and penn state and stay up way too late
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on September 11, 2009, 04:35:10 pm
have you considered taping something to the bottom of your tv, so as to block the ticker?  it's lame, but i've done it before...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2009, 09:31:40 pm
have you considered taping something to the bottom of your tv, so as to block the ticker?  it's lame, but i've done it before...

Yes, I've use party streamers, but tomorrow's a busy day and I can't justify watching a crappy football match just because it's in HD when there's many sports to watch (I forgot NASCAR was under the lights tomorrow as well).  If it were a better game I'd break out the party streamer and tape it across the bottom to hide the ticker. 

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2009, 03:07:02 pm
FOR DIRECTV SUBSCRIBERS:

Tuesday, September 15

UEFA Champions League ... 
 
2:45PM  UEFA Champions League Mix HD (Ch. 461-1)   
2:45PM  Zurich vs. Real Madrid HD (462-1) 
2:45PM Juventus vs. Girondins HD (463-1)
2:45PM Madrid Atletico vs. APOEL HD (464-1)   
2:45PM Maccabi Haifa vs. Bayern Munich HD (465-1) 
2:45PM VFL Wolfsburg vs. CSKA Moscow HD (466-1) 
2:45PM Marseille vs. Milan (467)   
2:45PM Chelsea vs. FC Porto (468) 
2:45PM Besiktas vs. Manchester United (469) 


Wednesday, September 16

2:45PM  UEFA Champions League Mix HD (461-1) 
2:45PM  Olympique Lyonnais vs. Fiorentina HD (462-1) 
2:45PM  Stuttgart vs. Rangers FC HD (463-1) 
2:45PM  Sevilla vs. Unirea Urziceni HD (464-1) 
2:45PM Olympiacos vs. AZ Alkmaar HD (465-1) 
2:45PM Dynamo Kyiv vs. Rubin Kazan HD (466-1) 
2:45PM Liverpool vs. Debrecen  (467)
2:45PM R. Standard de Liege vs. Arsenal (468) 
2:45PM Internazionale Milano vs. Barcelona (469) 

FOR THE REST OF YOU:

Tuesday, Sep 15

2:45PM Olympique de Marseille (FRA) v AC Milan (FSC)
2:45PM Chelsea vs Porto (Set)
5:00PM Chelsea FC (ENG) v FC Porto (POR)  (FSC)
5:00PM Zurich vs Real Madrid (Set)
6:45PM Marseille vs AC Milan (Set)
10:00PM Besiktas JK (TUR) v Manchester United FC (FSC)
2:00AM Juventus (ITA) v FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FSC)


Wednesday, Sep 16

2:45PM Liverpool FC (ENG) v Debreceni VSC (HUN) (FSC)
2:45PM Standard Liege vs Arsenal (Set)
5:00PM Liverpool vs Debrecen (Set)
5:00PM Standard de Lige (BEL) v Arsenal FC (FSC) 
6:45PM Inter Milan vs Barcelona (Set)
7:00PM FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) v FC Barcelona (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 14, 2009, 03:46:20 pm
am i reading this right? man u, not in hd and barca/inter (REALLY?) not in hd?

and i dont have to dvr anything else?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2009, 04:10:45 pm
am i reading this right? man u, not in hd and barca/inter (REALLY?) not in hd?

For United, check your regional sports network.  I plan on recording FSN West.

Barca/Inter is being carried on Fox Sports Espanol and is not available in HD on DirecTV, thus no HD feed.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 14, 2009, 04:27:00 pm
bummer, barca/inter is easily the best match. i'll dvr man u if its on csn hd though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2009, 04:33:13 pm
bummer, barca/inter is easily the best match. i'll dvr man u if its on csn hd though

Agreed.  Inter Barca not in HD is a crime.

642 is your CSN right?  It's listed as being in HD.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2009, 04:41:42 pm
BTW - Manchester 7 - North London 3.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 14, 2009, 04:44:30 pm
i'm kind of kicking myself for not watching it. i really only got to see the shitty arse match this weekend, and i'll be at my cousin's bachelor party all of next weekend. would have been nice to watch a second match, but i did catch entirely too much college football this weekend
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2009, 06:05:33 pm
The Premier League has announced that from next season every team must name a squad of 25 players, of which eight must be home grown. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=676207&sec=england&cc=5901)

"As of next season clubs will be required to have a squad named of up to 25 players, of which no more than 17 can be over the age of 21 and not home grown.

"The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system. Clubs will have to declare their 25 at the end of August when the window shuts and then again at the end of January.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 15, 2009, 08:06:31 am
silly rule in my opinion
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2009, 12:04:16 pm
Forlan Says Wrong Studs Ended His Career with United (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=676274&sec=uefachampionsleague&cc=5901)

I love these kinds of articles...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on September 15, 2009, 07:11:27 pm
Forlan Says Wrong Studs Ended His Career with United (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=676274&sec=uefachampionsleague&cc=5901)

I love these kinds of articles...

I was going to comment but then I figured "You know what, if I say something I'll just be insulted some more so fuck it.."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 16, 2009, 11:40:21 am
silly rule in my opinion
i'm going to have to take this back. i've been reading that its a light rule designed to prevent uefa from imposing a stricter rule, so i'm all for it
Forlan Says Wrong Studs Ended His Career with United (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=676274&sec=uefachampionsleague&cc=5901)

I love these kinds of articles...

I was going to comment but then I figured "You know what, if I say something I'll just be insulted some more so fuck it.."
good post
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 16, 2009, 12:24:51 pm
The Premier League has announced that from next season every team must name a squad of 25 players, of which eight must be home grown. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=676207&sec=england&cc=5901)

"As of next season clubs will be required to have a squad named of up to 25 players, of which no more than 17 can be over the age of 21 and not home grown.

"The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system. Clubs will have to declare their 25 at the end of August when the window shuts and then again at the end of January.



Oops - Le Arse St. Germain are fucked.....no?

I like the rule but would've increased the number to 10 andincluded the republic of Ireland with the "home grown" countries. Is scotland included? Not that there's any talent of note that comes from up there apart from Fletch.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 16, 2009, 12:32:23 pm
Oops - Le Arse St. Germain are fucked.....no?

I like the rule but would've increased the number to 10 andincluded the republic of Ireland with the "home grown" countries. Is scotland included? Not that there's any talent of note that comes from up there apart from Fletch.


No, it's actually designed to curb the high profile transfer spending.  As long as Le Arse continue to get guys before they turn 18 into their system, they're fine under the rule.

It's Chelsea and the new Man City that could be in trouble.  Maybe El Pool as well.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 16, 2009, 12:48:11 pm
i think i read that chelsea had 8 and liverpool has 7 this year

its got to be a boon for the academies in the uk though. its good for the toon too, theyve bought teen agers the past few years

id imagine that scotland and the republic are not included because they have their own leagues, but they could not exclude wales because of cardiff, swanzea, ect
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 16, 2009, 02:01:59 pm
You'd think they'd be all for it with United having dominated England with home grown talent....Giggs-Scholes-Beckham-Neville x2-Ferdinand-Rooney-......etc etc etc....the list is goes on
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 16, 2009, 02:16:24 pm
under these silly rules you'd included the brazilian full back twins too eventually
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 16, 2009, 02:25:26 pm
under these silly rules you'd included the brazilian full back twins too eventually

Giggs-Scholes-Beckham-Neville x2-Ferdinand-Rooney

Huh??

Sorry, let me clarify for you.

Ryan Giggs - Paul Scholes - David Beckham - Gary Neville - Phil Neville - Rio Ferdinand - Wayne Rooney

There, they all have first and last names so can't be Brazillians (aka -  know who their father is). The wild card at OT is Hargreaves...would he be considered English,which he is, German were he played or Canadian were he lived?

Seriously, if it was my rules the players would have to be born in the home countries and been through the teams academy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 16, 2009, 03:10:08 pm
they came to united at age 17. in two years they will have trained in england for 3 years, thus counting toward the silly rule. what did i say that was so bad?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 16, 2009, 03:32:58 pm
Hargreaves play for United?  Wow...who knew?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 16, 2009, 03:35:20 pm
Seriously, if it was my rules the players would have to be born in the home countries and been through the teams academy.

This is the crux - you guys are debating two different things. 

Mankie - that's not the rule and why the Brazilians would count under these rules.

Shoeshine - Mankie is arguing for the other rule where they have to bleed the same color as Mankie.  Sort of.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 16, 2009, 03:52:26 pm
to be honest i wasnt debating, i didnt realize we were talking about a nonexistant and possibly illegal rule
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 16, 2009, 06:40:48 pm
Shoeshine, I wasn't really arguing with you, more disagreeing with the loopholed filled rule. Homegrown should be 'homegrown' as in BORN THERE.

Smackie - nice one...I think Bayern saw United coming on that deal huh? I hope he makes a full recovery because he's a good player in the United tradition. Carrick is still finding his way I think, which is not good as he's been with us for long enough now.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2009, 02:34:55 pm
Ataboy Ade:

Ade Get's 3 Match ban for Stomp (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=677049&sec=england&cc=5901)

That puts him out of the Derby along with Tevez and Robinho.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2009, 02:43:10 pm
Saturday, Sept 19

7:45AM Burnley vs. Sunderland (ESPN2HD)
9:30am Arsenal vs Wigan (Set)
10:00am Aston Villa v Portsmouth (FSC)
12:30pm West Ham v Liverpool (FSC)
5:30pm Bolton v Stoke City (FSC)
6:45pm Hull vs Birmingham (Set)


Sunday Sept 20

8:25am Man Utd vs Man City (Set)
11:00am Chelsea v Tottenham (FSC)
1:00pm Wolves vs Fulham (Set)
7:00pm Everton v Blackburn (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 18, 2009, 02:41:48 pm
Ataboy Ade:

Ade Get's 3 Match ban for Stomp (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=677049&sec=england&cc=5901)

That puts him out of the Derby along with Tevez and Robinho.

Tevez could be fit for Sunday....but this begs the question 'is he capable of playing 90 minutes?' He never managed it for United - yuk yuk yuk!!!

Awwww. hutch I'm sorry if I insulted your girlfriend. I'm only joking.


It will be ineresting to see what reception he gets from the United fans if he does take the field. The OT faithful almost always give former players a warm welcome but the way he pissed and moaned like the little bitch he is over his signing issues (which was due to his gangster of an agent) he may get some well deserved crap. Plus he sigined for the Moss Side Morons.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on September 20, 2009, 10:39:41 am
wow..what a game...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 20, 2009, 11:47:11 am
8 AM in a day when I have a ton of sports to watch and I'm already exhausted....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on September 20, 2009, 01:48:48 pm
wow..what a game...
what hutch said.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 21, 2009, 11:52:31 am
From @TheRealWayneRooney twitter account:

"I'd just like to take a moment and thank Newcastle for letting Michael go.  Thank you Newcastle United"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 21, 2009, 11:58:25 am
poor wayne-o's not the brightest
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 21, 2009, 12:43:24 pm
If I ever make it to a Manchester Derby in my life, and the outcome was as dramatic as yesterday's match, one guy I would never taunt as they were leaving the pitch would be Craig Bellamy.  I knew this before I saw this picture:

(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2009/0921/craigbellamy20090921fan_412x232.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 21, 2009, 12:59:39 pm
sucker punching a fan fits in well as a chapter in bel's career
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 21, 2009, 01:06:47 pm
Wednesday, Sept 23

2:40pm LIVE Carling Cup - Man Utd vs Wolverhampton (Set)


Newcastle returns to the tubes this Saturday....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 21, 2009, 01:09:29 pm
thank god. i'm losing my marbles over here
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 21, 2009, 07:45:37 pm
If I ever make it to a Manchester Derby in my life, and the outcome was as dramatic as yesterday's match, one guy I would never taunt as they were leaving the pitch would be Craig Bellamy.  I knew this before I saw this picture:

(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2009/0921/craigbellamy20090921fan_412x232.jpg)

You did notice that the fan had his arms restrained by a steward when Bellamy punched him? Bellamy has always been a twat, now he plays for the moss side morons he's elevated to a fucking blue twat.

I'm not sure what Hughes is bellyaching about the added time for. If it's tied then the added time benefits both teams equally and shitty could quite easily have put one in against the run of play just like they did all game. Had Bellamy not celebrated for about 2 minutes after their third goal then time would not have been added to the 4 minutes. The ref can and should add more time on should a team be time wasting or for subsitions during injury time.... Hughes is quickly becoming the Welsh Wenger.

Oh it's good to know the red side of manc still dominates.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 21, 2009, 08:26:30 pm
I'm not sure what Hughes is bellyaching about the added time for. If it's tied then the added time benefits both teams equally and shitty could quite easily have put one in against the run of play just like they did all game.

I can see why he's complaining, but I agree with you.  The ref signalled 4 minutes.  Shitty then scored and celebrated for 55 seconds.  Add one minute for that.  30 seconds for the Carrick substituion and we play to 95:30.  Owen scores at 95:25 - time for celebration, kickoff, blow whistle.  End of game.  End of story.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 22, 2009, 09:55:11 am
yay! i'm happy i agree with mankie on the bells is a twat point  ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 23, 2009, 02:02:23 pm
I'm not sure what Hughes is bellyaching about the added time for. If it's tied then the added time benefits both teams equally and shitty could quite easily have put one in against the run of play just like they did all game.

I can see why he's complaining, but I agree with you.  The ref signalled 4 minutes.  Shitty then scored and celebrated for 55 seconds.  Add one minute for that.  30 seconds for the Carrick substituion and we play to 95:30.  Owen scores at 95:25 - time for celebration, kickoff, blow whistle.  End of game.  End of story.

I didn't see the game, what I do in these situations is to imagine how I would have reacted if the game had been at Manchester City's stadium and the situation had been the opposite with City (why not Tevez?) scoring the goal at 95:25.

(I did it last year after Chelsea's complaints after the game with Barcelona and thought that if we had been in Chelsea's situation I would have wanted to fire the coach and the players rather than kill the referee)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on September 23, 2009, 02:33:34 pm
Well its surprising...

I think its atypical to have a game with 7 minutes added on...

It happens more in banana countries like Argentina... where there is more timewasting simulating etc/ fan riots during game/ electricity shutting down/ more cards/ the refs are bought and paid for etc.

But in Europe to have seven minutes tacked on is unusual.. Then again its England and they do follow the book.. maybe everyone else is wrong.. I mean if you have a bunch of goal celebrations, a few free kicks etc.. You can see how it would get to 7 minutes..

The blame really is City's for not holding on to the draw....but of course people always like to point the finger elsewhere...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 23, 2009, 05:04:47 pm
I think its atypical to have a game with 7 minutes added on...

But that's just it - it wasn't 7 minutes.  It was 5:30 with close to minute celebration after a winning goal 5 seconds short of the whistle.  After the teams reassembled for the kick-off, City kicked it down field and the whistle blew. He can't blow the whistle on a dead ball so he had to wait for the ball to be put back in play.

Either way, give City 7 minutes of added time in the Spring and see if United can score two more goals instead of one....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 23, 2009, 05:28:42 pm
I don't care if it was 15 minutes of added time...the score was tied so it's benefits both teams. Had shitty scored the go-ahead goal at 90 minutes then 7 (5 1/2 in reality) minutes been added and United scored the EQUALIZER I can understand raised eyebrows, but what was to stop shitty scoring and winning the game at 5.25????? That's the point I'm trying to make.

The time keeping is correct. You can add extra time onto injury time for delay in game. It's not friggin rocket science.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 24, 2009, 09:02:57 am
right, 4 minutes of added time doesnt mean the match ends at 94:00 no matter what. 2 goal celebrations and a substitution has got to add at least 2 minutes if not 3
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 24, 2009, 12:16:36 pm
Eesh...

Newcastle Facing Administration, Loss of Points (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=679174&sec=england&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 24, 2009, 12:27:10 pm
i'll try to keep this short

i dont know that keegan will win, because i doubt his contract gave him full control over transfers

supposedly ashley has 25m in overdrafts secured, he could defer payment over a few years, and once this is sorted the sale might go through

BUT, fuck kevin keegan. he told us he came back to save the club and yet he goes for the jugular with this lawsuit. absolutly shameful. fans still take his side somehow
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 24, 2009, 12:58:39 pm
I agree...Keegan quit right? Imagine that?? Keegan quitting!!!! In my opinion he should lose all rights to any compensation unless he was sexually harrassed or something, but just quitting because he lacks a spine and sense of commitment is not grounds for compensation in my opinion....I'm sure some lawyer will argue to the contrary but the law is not, and actually hardly ever, an indication of what is right, ethical or moral.

Shoeshine...do you remember a certain old board member who predicted Keegan would quit when he took the job? He's never completed a managerial commitment since he stopped playing...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 24, 2009, 01:02:54 pm
of course i remember! that makes it sting all the worse, the fact that all of us newcastle supporters defended him against all the naysayers. well, the naysayers were right he walked at the first sign of trouble. i'm sorry, i know he did a lot for us in his first tenure, but we punted top flight football for this guy last season, the prospect of giving up more has me pretty riled up
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 24, 2009, 07:57:00 pm
Saturday, September 26

7:45am Portsmouth vs. Everton (ESPN2HD)
9:30am Stoke vs Man Utd (Set)
10:00am Liverpool v Hull City (FSC)
12:25pm Coca-Cola Championship - Ipswich vs Newcastle (Set)
12:30pm Fulham v Arsenal (FSC)
5:00pm Wigan vs Chelsea (Set)
7:00pm Tottenham v Burnley (FSC)
8:30pm Blackburn vs Aston Villa (Set)
 

Sunday, Sep 27

11:00am Sunderland v Wolverhampton (FSC)



Almost forgot one...

Monday, Sept 28

2:45pm Manchester City vs. West Ham United (ESPN2HD)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 28, 2009, 01:45:35 pm
Don't know if anybody caught that Sunderland/Wolves match, but it was easily the most sloppily played but wildly entertaining match I've seen in a while.  It even included and indirect free kick from the 6-yard box.  Haven't seen one of those in a while...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 28, 2009, 02:30:50 pm
couldnt have been sloppier than ipswich
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 28, 2009, 03:50:42 pm
couldnt have been sloppier than ipswich

Equally as sloppy as both sides were terrible, but because it wasn't so one sided as the Ipswitch match, it made for good fun.  I mean 7 goals between them!

Horrible penalties, horrible penalty appeals and a back pass from 40 yards out that had to be saved by the keeper for the indirect free kick at the 6 yard box.  The only thing that could have made it better is if Keano was still at Sunderland so Keano and Mick could have gone back and forth to see who could make the best "I'm about to either puke or kick somebody's ass" face and then gone into death match!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 28, 2009, 06:46:37 pm
FOR DIRECTV SUBSCRIBERS:

Tuesday, September 29

UEFA Champions League ... 
 
2:45PM  UEFA Champions League Mix HD (Ch. 461-1)   
2:45PM  Rubin Kazan vs Inter Milan  HD (462-1) 
2:45PM  Barcelona vs Dynamo Kyiv HD (463-1) 
2:45PM  Debreceni vs Oly. Lyon HD (464-1) 
2:45PM Unirea vs Stuttgart HD (465-1)   
2:45PM AZ Aikmaar vs Standard HD (466-1) 
2:45PM Arsenal vs Olympiacos (467/FSNHD)  
2:45PM Rangers vs Sevilla (468/FSC)
2:45PM Fiorentina vs Liverpool (469/Set) 
 

Wednesday, September 30

2:45PM  UEFA Champions League Mix HD (461-1) 
2:45PM  CSKA Moscow vs Besiktas  HD (462-1) 
2:45PM  Bayern Munich vs Juventus HD (463-1) 
2:45PM  AC Milan vs Zurich HD (464-1) 
2:45PM Bordeaux vs Maccabi Haif HD (465-1) 
2:45PM Porto vs Atl Madrid HD (466-1) 
2:45PM Real Madrid vs O. Marseille  (467/FSNHD)
2:45PM Man. United vs Wolfsburg (468/FSC)
2:45PM APOEL vs Chelsea (469/Set)  



FOR THE REST OF YOU:

Tuesday, Sep 29

2:45PM Rangers FC (SCO) v Sevilla FC (ESP) (FSC)
2:45pm Fiorentina vs Liverpool (Set)
4:45pm Barcelona vs Dynamo Kiev (Set)
5:00PM ACF Fiorentina (ITA) v Liverpool FC (ENG) (FSC)
6:30pm Rangers vs Sevilla (Set)
10:00PM Arsenal FC (ENG) v Olympiacos FC (GRE)  (FSC)
2:00AM FC Barcelona (ESP) v FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) (FSC)
11:00AM FC Rubin Kazan (RUS) v FC Internazionale Milan (ITA) (FSC)


Wednesday, Sep 30

2:45PM Manchester United FC (ENG) v VfL Wolfsburg (GER) (FSC)
2:45PM Apoel vs Chelsea (Set)
5:00pm Man Utd vs Wolfsburg (Set)
5:00PM Real Madrid CF (ESP) v Olympique de Marsielle (FRA) (FSC) 
6:45pm Real Madrid vs Marseille (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on September 30, 2009, 01:58:00 pm
for those of you tossing and turning at night wondering what happened to Freddy Adu

http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/theportugeezer/archive/2009/09/23/the-curious-case-of-freddy-adu.aspx

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 30, 2009, 03:01:10 pm
for those of you tossing and turning at night wondering what happened to Freddy Adu

http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/theportugeezer/archive/2009/09/23/the-curious-case-of-freddy-adu.aspx

This reads just like the Landon Donovan story...he'll come back to the states, succeed in his mid-20's and regarner interest but it will be two late to make an impact in Europe.

One thing I would like to stop seeing though, is this idea that nobody will give them a chance.  Your spots in the squad are earned, and he simply isn't earning a first 11 spot.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 01, 2009, 09:01:16 am
Portsmouth players haven't been paid this week

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/01/portsmouth-wages-peter-storrie-no-money

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 01, 2009, 09:22:17 am
i dont know how you can compete in the prem only drawing 18k a match. sounds like their rich new owner bit off more than he could chew
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 01, 2009, 09:37:44 am
good nytimes article touching on the issue

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/28/sports/soccer/28iht-SOCCER.html?ref=soccer

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 01, 2009, 08:01:07 pm
True story....my wife looked over my shoulder as I was reading the BBC report on the weekends games. She asked my why I had suddenly taken an interest in womens football. "Huh?" I thought to myself then realized she was looking at a photo of Torres!!!!!! She was being serious too. He didn't do to well this week after 'resting' him did he? yuk yuk.

As for Adu...."didn't get a chance" come on.....teams don't spend money on transfer fees and salaries so they don't have to give them a chance. They expect production for the ungodly amounts of money players make these days. My opinion is he is just not strong enough for the more physical yourapeein game. On the bright side he did get to live in Monaco for a while. If he's not up to it, he's not up to it so send him back to the MLS if it's not too late for him. Admittedly I'm not an expert on amuurcan players in Europe but from the ones I know I think the player who made the transition from MLS to the premiership the best is McBride at Fulham. Goalies excepted of course because you doodles produce some great goalies.


Finally.....am I the only one seriously concerned about Uniteds defense. (okay, that question is for smackie, the rest of you are probably loving it) Same players who were as solid as a Mt. Rushmore now look very spongey, and it's not an age thing, they're still relatively young for fullbacks. Also, Berbatov actually looked like he gave a crap the other night v Wolfsburg. I have a bad feeling he's going to be Uniteds Esa Tikkanen (spelling?) remember him? He played like crap  for the Caps all season then when the playoffs came around he became the franchise player? Ronaldo was the opposite...looked great against average teams then invisible when playing top teams or in big games. That's why I didn't think we'd miss him........much, and we aren't really are we?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 01, 2009, 08:13:26 pm
Adu is nowhere near as good a player as Donovan..

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 01, 2009, 11:00:04 pm
Adu is nowhere near as good a player as Donovan..



Maybe, but do you think Adu would've been as little a bitch about Beckham stealing his thunder at Galaxy as Donovan?   "Wah wah wah I'll never get a shag now Beckhams here, he's even taken my captains armband, wah wah wah"


"hey donovan...news flash...Becks is a thousand times the player you'll ever dream about being. I don't hear the phone ringing from Milan (or even Cagliari for that matter) to sign you up on loan for the US off season?"

 ::)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 01, 2009, 11:33:45 pm
Adu is nowhere near as good a player as Donovan..



Maybe, but do you think Adu would've been as little a bitch about Beckham stealing his thunder at Galaxy as Donovan?   "Wah wah wah I'll never get a shag now Beckhams here, he's even taken my captains armband, wah wah wah"


"hey donovan...news flash...Becks is a thousand times the player you'll ever dream about being. I don't hear the phone ringing from Milan (or even Cagliari for that matter) to sign you up on loan for the US off season?"

 ::)

No I don't.
Donovan is an ass..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 02, 2009, 08:49:49 am
to be fair, adu was bought by a manager that was sacked something like 3 weeks into that first season at benfica. comparing donovan and adu as players isnt even close. i dont think landon was right to call out becks, but donovan's too young for italy anyway
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 02, 2009, 09:08:44 am
anyway, keegan gets 2m:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=681944&sec=england&cc=5901
he sought 25m though. i'm glad he didnt get the whole lot, and i'm glad this is over, but unreal. door is open for a sale though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2009, 12:44:11 pm
Adu is nowhere near as good a player as Donovan..

Your reading comprehension is the only thing worse than your love of everything Argentine.  Nobody said that...

I wasn't talking about the players now.  I'm talking about Landon when he went to Bayer Leverkusen at a young age, made virtually no impact in his early 20's and returned to America where he "figured it out" which is code for "the competition came back to him."

All I said was I expect the same to happen to Freddy - he will return to the states and succeed by American standards and then the rumors will swirl again that it's time for him to return to Europe and no European team will take the chance on him. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2009, 01:01:35 pm
Finally.....am I the only one seriously concerned about Uniteds defense. (okay, that question is for smackie, the rest of you are probably loving it) Same players who were as solid as a Mt. Rushmore now look very spongey, and it's not an age thing, they're still relatively young for fullbacks. Also, Berbatov actually looked like he gave a crap the other night v Wolfsburg. I have a bad feeling he's going to be Uniteds Esa Tikkanen (spelling?) remember him? He played like crap  for the Caps all season then when the playoffs came around he became the franchise player? Ronaldo was the opposite...looked great against average teams then invisible when playing top teams or in big games. That's why I didn't think we'd miss him........much, and we aren't really are we?

Obviously, Rio's not healthy.  United has relied on their middle two and allowed the left and right backs to go forward, but without a fully healthy Rio they're leaving the defense exposed.  Unfortunately, lacking a play maker in the middle, United has gone back to the crossing approach a la the Beckham days.  With the backs forward for crosses, an unhealthy Rio (or Evans who also has a penchant for knocks) in the middle the D is left exposed.  I agree with you, this is going to be a problem.

Berbatov is frustrating for United supporters.  He's the only tall striker we have and if we continue to this crossing offense, he's gonna have to step it up.  I don't even want to know what would happen if Rooney were to get hurt.  But yes, he did look good at the start of the Wolfsburg match, but he doesn't have the endurance.  I think he also felt slighted that Owen was given the start and that might have inspired him a bit.  That being said, I no longer have faith in him taking it up a notch on a consistent basis.

As for Ronaldo...I love watching the squad without him.  The offense doesn't have to be run through him any longer, the play is much more wide open, and the team generally seems to be having more fun.  As long as Giggs continues to play like he's in his 20's - he's been absolutely brilliant in the last 3 matches - Ronaldo will not be missed.  The question is how long can he keep this up because there really isn't a playmaker right now in the midfiled (Carrick has fallen out with SAF, no?) and Hargreaves is going to need some time to get back to speed. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2009, 01:53:39 pm
Saturday, October 3

9:55am Wolverhampton vs Portsmouth (Set)
10:00AM Bolton Wanderers vs. Tottenham Hotspur (ESPN2)
10:00AM Hull City v Wigan (FSC)
12:30PM Manchester Utd. v Sunderland (FSC)
5:00pm Burnley vs Birmingham (Set)
 

Sunday, October 4

8:25am Arsenal vs Blackburn (Set)
11:00AM Chelsea v Liverpool (FSC)
1:00pm Everton vs Stoke (Set)
5:00PM West Ham v Fulham (FSC)


Monday, October 5

2:45PM Aston Villa vs. Manchester City (ESPN2HD) 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 02, 2009, 02:10:03 pm
Adu is nowhere near as good a player as Donovan..

Your reading comprehension is the only thing worse than your love of everything Argentine.  Nobody said that...

I wasn't talking about the players now.  I'm talking about Landon when he went to Bayer Leverkusen at a young age, made virtually no impact in his early 20's and returned to America where he "figured it out" which is code for "the competition came back to him."

All I said was I expect the same to happen to Freddy - he will return to the states and succeed by American standards and then the rumors will swirl again that it's time for him to return to Europe and no European team will take the chance on him. 

You know I wish you'd cut the insults man.. Its really rude.

But nevertheless since you insist on getting into an argument: you're wrong. Plain and simple Donovan is a much better player which is why he "triumphed" in the MLS.

Adu is nowhere near and will not succeed by American standards. He wasn't very good with DC United why would we expect him to be better now? Landon- when he went to BL - was a far better player than Adu when he went to Europe.

Adu is done. He was never anything more than hype. He's failed to make an impact at every team he has ever played. There is no reason to expect him- based on his track record- to do any better where he to return to MLS than he did last time.

You know man.. it gets old to read your really rude posts. If you don't like something I say by all means just say that you disagree or better yet don't read my posts..since you have such stellar comprehension when you see "posted by: Hutch" just ignore it..Do us both a favor!.. but the "your reading comprehension...".. Thats uncalled for... Don't be a jerk.

And by the way: YOU'RE the one with the obsession with Argentina for whatever reason.. I dont' remember mentioning it with reference to Adu or pretty much anything else.. the last two times its been mentioned has been by you..Its YOU who keeps bringing it up for some odd reason..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2009, 02:25:33 pm

Honestly people don't seem very informed on this over here..


Hutch, if you think I'm ever going to forget that you said this and then never admitted that you were wrong, you're sorely mistaken.  Petty perhaps, but I'm fine with my stance.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2009, 02:28:11 pm
But nevertheless since you insist on getting into an argument: you're wrong. Plain and simple Donovan is a much better player which is why he "triumphed" in the MLS.

Again, nobody is arguing that Adu is or will be a better player than Donovan.  I don't why you're harping on this.  All I said was that the pattern Donovan went through will repeat itself with Adu.  This is not about a comparison of the two players. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 02, 2009, 02:30:48 pm

Honestly people don't seem very informed on this over here..


Hutch, if you think I'm ever going to forget that you said this and then never admitted that you were wrong, you're sorely mistaken.  Petty perhaps, but I'm fine with my stance.

Ok you're fine being petty..great for you! Be petty..

Do I look like I give a fuck?

In the end you're just another guy in an internet forum  throwing  insults around..

Doesn't make you much better than a person that may have been uninformed..I don't know...Maybe I was maybe I wasn't... To me it seems like you presented a side of the whole production... a side that is the ManU official story..

But  we'll see as far as how the deal will work out..we got a long ways to go.. so far Owen is working well for ManU and Tevez is working well for ManCity.

Keep on keeping on being petty though and let me k now how that works out for you..

In the meantime, given this is a public forum last time I checked, I will continue to post when I damn well please and if you want want to insist on resorting to insults I think it just makes you look like a lemming.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 02, 2009, 02:31:52 pm
can we stop talking about freddy adu already. i mean really i'd rather talk about torres (the american one) or torres (the girly-looking one)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on October 02, 2009, 02:33:40 pm
(http://upnextinsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/128979558757251637.jpg)

(http://upnextinsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/128976834033022224.jpg)

(the above are dedicated to hutch, who is acting a bit like a pr*ck today... no one ever said you weren't allowed to post what you damn well please.  however, misconstrue what others said and expect to be called out)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2009, 02:34:04 pm
Adu is done. He was never anything more than hype. He's failed to make an impact at every team he has ever played. There is no reason to expect him- based on his track record- to do any better where he to return to MLS than he did last time.

And this is where we can agree to disagree.  I think he's 20 years old and could never deal with the pressure he's been under since the cover of every magazine at age 14.  He has tremendous individual skills but never took the time to really understand the game and be one of eleven on the pitch.  I think he'll figure it out at some point, but the only way that happens is with first team experience, experience he's only going to get in America because he's not good enough for top division European football, even on the bottom feeders.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 02, 2009, 02:42:22 pm
Allright.. we have one guy saying Adu will return to the MLS and be relatively succesful - like Donovan was (maybe not to the same degree though? I mean does anyone see him as MLS MVP? but ok maybe not same degree but similar arc..)- and we have another guy saying Adu won't succeed anywhere cause he ain't that good..

The first guy told the second guy to work on his reading comprehension.. the second guy didn't like it and said so....some jawing ensued and old scores were brough up (by the first guy of course).. then a clown showed up and  carded the second guy who storms off in dramatic fashion...

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2009, 02:57:23 pm
Moving on...

Sunday, October 4

11:00AM Chelsea v Liverpool (FSC)
 

0-0 Draw or 1-1 draw?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 02, 2009, 03:20:10 pm
both sides are scoring a little better than usual, so 1-1

and even if i wasnt running the army 10 miler i would refuse to watch
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2009, 03:33:39 pm
and even if i wasnt running the army 10 miler i would refuse to watch

Haha, I'm going to PIP the second half while I make sure my fantasy guys are playing...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 03, 2009, 07:03:14 am
Moving on...

Sunday, October 4

11:00AM Chelsea v Liverpool (FSC)
 

0-0 Draw or 1-1 draw?

Is it possible to have a score lower than 0-0?

Although, notverylargegene'pool may have a point to make having been humiliated in Italy mid-week, which could mean a feisty affair with plenty of cards....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 06, 2009, 12:02:05 pm
Highlight of chelski v scum was when Terry yelled at  Drogba to get up and get on with it.

Downside of the weekend is we dropped 2 points to the russians but scumpool lost and shitty didn't make any ground on us so it's not all bad.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 06, 2009, 12:08:16 pm
Highlight of chelski v scum was when Terry yelled at  Drogba to get up and get on with it.

That was pretty awesome....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 06, 2009, 01:12:56 pm
scumpool lost
six points back and pointing fingers already. the form of shitty and spurs have got to make them nervous for fourth even
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 06, 2009, 03:22:30 pm
USA v Honduras on TV in America? (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2009/09/usa-honduras_tv.html)

I'm not holding my breath on this one...but that $250 R/T to Honduras looks promising (ignoring all State Dept reports of course...).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 10, 2009, 04:26:37 pm
hmm interesting article  on altidore, onweyu (sic)

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=Al4fh3Iqsk3zio.MdteWVmgmw7YF?slug=ap-us-fightingfortime&prov=ap&type=lgns
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on October 10, 2009, 05:46:40 pm
USA v Honduras on TV in America? (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2009/09/usa-honduras_tv.html)

I'm not holding my breath on this one...but that $250 R/T to Honduras looks promising (ignoring all State Dept reports of course...).

smackie, please don't go.  forget the state dept warnings which apply to general risks - muggings, riots, kidnappings, etc.  i know you're smart enough to steer clear of these.  what i'd be afraid of is violence inside the stadium, during the game.  locals already carry a hatred of opponents but when those opponents are the americans... i wouldn't want to be cheering for the USA.  and i know you will be.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 10, 2009, 06:41:52 pm
There I go crossing the streams again (from my thread)...

@ GrantWahl F------ hell. Got robbed at gunpoint in Tegucigalpa in broad daylight. I'm OK, but they took wallet/iPhone. Amateur hour from GW!


Probably my favorite tweet thus far.  Is that what the State Dept meant when they said it wasn't wise to travel to Honduras for the soccer match, Grant?

And miss the playoffs?  Not a chance.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 10, 2009, 07:25:34 pm
USA v Honduras on TV in America? (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2009/09/usa-honduras_tv.html)

I'm not holding my breath on this one...but that $250 R/T to Honduras looks promising (ignoring all State Dept reports of course...).

smackie, please don't go.  forget the state dept warnings which apply to general risks - muggings, riots, kidnappings, etc.  i know you're smart enough to steer clear of these.  what i'd be afraid of is violence inside the stadium, during the game.  locals already carry a hatred of opponents but when those opponents are the americans... i wouldn't want to be cheering for the USA.  and i know you will be.

Try being an English fan (club or country) abroad....local hoodlums consider English scalps badges of honor.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 10, 2009, 10:13:36 pm
Try being an English fan (club or country) abroad....local hoodlums consider English scalps badges of honor.

I'm too drunk to type out the story right not, but this is a placeholder for me to tell "the Frankfurt story."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 11, 2009, 12:28:29 am
So glad bout the US making the World CUP... there was never any doubt but its still great!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 12, 2009, 06:51:15 pm
Freddy Adu was given his first start at Beleneneses today.

He was removed at half time.

That's not good.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 13, 2009, 02:57:10 pm
According to US Soccer, USMNT striker Charlie Davies was in a car accident today and is in surgery.  Supposedly not life threatening.

EDIT: This is supposedly the crash (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-beat/One-Dead-Road-Blocked-in-GW-Parkway-Accident-64073357.html).  I can't verify.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 13, 2009, 11:45:57 pm
How sad.... I hope he makes a full recovery...From  article:

Davies will be hospitalized for at least a week and additional surgeries will be required to stabilize his left elbow fracture and possibly the facial fractures. The injuries are severe enough that Davies probably won't play in next year's World Cup.

"Injuries of this nature usually require a recovery period of six to 12 months and extensive rehabilitation," said U.S. Soccer physician Dr. Dan Kalbac, who is with the team in D.C. and collaborated with the treating doctors. "Due to Charlie's fitness level, his prognosis for recovery and his ability to resume high-level competition is substantially improved."

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/soccer/10/13/charlie.davies/index.html?eref=sircrc#ixzz0TsW9QjUj
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Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on October 14, 2009, 10:39:11 am
EDIT: This is supposedly the crash (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local-beat/One-Dead-Road-Blocked-in-GW-Parkway-Accident-64073357.html).  I can't verify.

they've updated the story to confirm that davies was in that GWPkwy crash.  the SUV was torn in half... yikes.

(http://media.nbcwashington.com/images/600*400/otherhalfofSUV.JPG)

occurred at 3:15 AM... high potential of DUI.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on October 14, 2009, 11:06:29 am
So is this what US soccer idiots are going to blame when we lose in the first round like we always do?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 14, 2009, 11:57:43 am
its certainly a blow, he was near the top of the team sheet
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on October 14, 2009, 02:02:29 pm
So is this what US soccer idiots are going to blame when we lose in the first round like we always do?

over the last 4 world cups, the US team has made it past the round-robin stage twice.  while a 50% success rate doesn't put the yanks anywhere near italy or brazil, that can't be called losing "in the first round like they always do".
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 14, 2009, 02:20:08 pm
cmon, we all know julian sports hyberbole
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 14, 2009, 02:27:39 pm
I think the last WC was such a debacle that we're all frustrated...

But the win against Spain and some life against Brazil- albeit in a meaningless competition- are encouraging.. The win against Honduras was pretty clutch

Its difficult to qualify (look at country that shall not be mentioned in SOuth America)... we'll have to see what kind of draw the US gets and whether we can make it to the second round..

Davies was not driving by the way..but why was he out at 3:15 am? .. its a big actually huge game tonight for Costa Rica and Honduras....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on October 14, 2009, 02:32:20 pm
cmon, we all know julian sports hyberbole
 
<resists urge to make low blow involving his favorite team...>

<and no, i don't mean flaming gays ;)>
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 14, 2009, 07:51:04 pm
cmon, we all know julian sports hyberbole

Small correction....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on October 14, 2009, 08:11:12 pm
Anyone can give you facts and statistics. If you want a fucking box score buy a newspaper. I assume people log onto 930.com for a little bit of spice drizzled on their risotto.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 15, 2009, 10:01:28 am
Nice draw by the US last night.... very pleased they kept going after it until they tied it up.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 15, 2009, 05:49:38 pm
This was all over the twitters today, but this Honduran call of the final US goal is great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjOv0rJYyF8

I'm pretty sure you can hear the announcer crying.  Now would be a good time for the State Dept to cash in any chits it needs to get something from the Honduran Pseudo Government.

Compare that with this Costa Rican call where the Color guy doesn't speak after what sounds like he literally gets punched in the stomach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTHkjsMrdn8 (6:18 Mark)

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 15, 2009, 06:53:44 pm
Saturday, October 17

7:45am Aston Villa vs. Chelsea (ESPN2HD)
9:30am Man Utd vs Bolton (set)
10:00am Sunderland v Liverpool (FSC)
12:15pm Coca-Cola Championship - Nottingham vs Newcastle (Set)
8:30pm Arsenal vs Birmingham City (Set)
8:30pm Portsmouth v Tottenham (FSC)
10:15pm Everton vs Wolverhampton (Set)
 

Sunday, October 18

7:55am Blackburn vs Burnley (Set)
11:00am Wigan v Manchester City (FSC)


Monday, October 19

2:45PM Fulham vs. Hull City (ESPN2HD) 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 16, 2009, 11:50:48 am
I guess he hasn't quite kicked the nose candy habit.........

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/8311013.stm
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 18, 2009, 09:19:22 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHZ_l89TvDI&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 19, 2009, 12:56:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHZ_l89TvDI&feature=player_embedded

Nice. 

Fascinating when I saw that.  Even better when they realized it came from the visitor's stands....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 19, 2009, 12:58:53 pm
Shay Given was pretty much spot on with his complaints about the draw and he predicted exactly what would happen. 

Good luck Brennser.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 19, 2009, 01:09:47 pm
eh, the 2006 playoffs were seeded too so honestly I'm not that sure what all the fuss is about

would it have been nice to get Greece? Sure.....

Its a tough draw but on our day we can beat anyone as long as we crack down on the mental lapses that have plagued us throughout qualifying (problem is we have to beat em over 2 days  :D).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 26, 2009, 05:31:21 pm
reactions on the Liverpool Man Utd game? I haven't watched too many games this year yet, permier league to be a battle between United and Chelsea or do Liverpool and Arsenal still have a chance? Chelsea looking stronger than United?

as for champions league, some interesting results in Spain last week, wide open this year, I would say looking at all teams and the quality of the players, Barcelona, Chelsea, Man. U., Real Madrid (if Ronaldo does not get injured) and Inter. but who knows, world cup year and players do not want to get injured, maybe Oporto, Dinamo Kyev, Rubin...?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 27, 2009, 03:52:34 pm
Scum v Man Utd = No complaints regarding the result from my perspective. United didn't really show up for that game, and I hope to God they offload Babytov asap and get a striker that actually runs now and again. Sublime passes only goes so far, and not nearly far enough. The ref was out of his league in my opinion and let the crowd make a lot of decisions for him.....just what does Carragher have to do to get sent off? Rape maybe? Vidic sneezes and gets cards and that douche gets away with murder every game regardless of oponent. Regardless of the weak ref, Liverpool were still worthy of the 3 points. I see United beating chelski so the round robin in points will be a wash between the three teams.

I doubt scum will challenge for the premiership because they're lacking in depth, so over the course of a season they will have injury problems. I think it will be a close 3 horse race with United, chelski and arsenal with United to take it again. Remember, for some reason known only to the footie Gods United are a second half of the season team so this is one of the best starts they've had to the season in some time.

I think the Champs league is anyones call at the moment. The russians look pretty impressive but can they survive a knock out competition??? I don't see Barca repeating I'm afraid. United have looked invincible in the contest so far and Real Madrid is a train wreck waiting to happen in my opinion.  Should be very interesting once the also rans are gone and it's down to the nitty-gritty....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 27, 2009, 05:30:31 pm
I mostly agree with Mankie (except for maybe the Champions league stuff - way too early).

United's midfiled looked like they were a bunch of mid-30 somethings playing against a bunch of mid-20 somethings...oh wait, they were.  The pairing of Scholes and Carrick was a disaster and they were badly outplayed.

Carragher should have been sent off as he was clearly the last man, but still a point would have been a gift for the way United played.  As soon as that happened and watchign Vidic's reaction (who was actually having a pretty strong game until that moment), there was no doubt he was going to push his luck and get sent off for the third straight time.  Rio's still a step off his pace and hasn't yet realized it - that's an equal liability right now to United's inability to score from a true forward position creating his own space in the box (yep, I'm talking about you Berbatov).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 28, 2009, 10:12:40 am
by the way, what about Real Madrid last night? can it get better? the capacity of the stadium where they lost is 3,200! such a small team and trashed them 4-0, priceless.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8329227.stm

Real Madrid crash to village side

Coach Manuel Pellegrini was "very embarrassed" after Real Madrid were crushed 4-0 by third tier village side Alcorcon in the Spanish King's Cup.

Real fielded a strong team but were 3-0 down to the Segunda Division B club by half-time in the round of 32 first leg.

"There's no reason or explanation for how the team performed. We hope our fans can forgive us," said Pellegrini.

Real director general Jorge Valdano also apologised to fans but backed under-fire Pellegrini.

"It's difficult and I know how the Madrid supporters must be feeling," Valdano stated on the club's website.

We must stick together, and when I say 'together' I am also thinking about the coach
Real director general Jorge Valdano
Despite embarking on a 226.5m spending spree over the summer and signing Chilean Pellegrini from Villarreal, Real have won only one game in their last five, with three defeats.

Reports suggest Pellegrini could lose his job if Real, who were without their two most expensive signings Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka, lose to Getafe at the weekend or are beaten by AC Milan in the Champions League on Tuesday.

But Valdano stated: "We have to take it as a lesson in humility that must serve as a starting point for a fresh beginning.

"We must stick together, and when I say 'together' I am also thinking about the coach."

And Pellegrini added: "I am not thinking about my job or about resigning, only the next match."

Madrid, who have not won the Spanish King's Cup (Copa del Rey) since 1993, suffered an upset last season as they were knocked out at the fourth-round stage by another third-tier side, Real Union, on the away goals rule.

Pellegrini conceded: "We've seen it 3,200 times before: a team who were tremendously motivated and were able to play at their best.

"I saw them in recent games, we had reports, but they played very well.

"We need to react. We are going to find difficult opponents all over the place. We need to play well everywhere."

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 28, 2009, 10:40:11 am
just saw this - highly amusing.....

by the way, what about Real Madrid last night? can it get better? the capacity of the stadium where they lost is 3,200! such a small team and trashed them 4-0, priceless.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8329227.stm

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 28, 2009, 10:57:41 am
just saw this - highly amusing.....

by the way, what about Real Madrid last night? can it get better? the capacity of the stadium where they lost is 3,200! such a small team and trashed them 4-0, priceless.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8329227.stm


For 80m quid I'd expect Ronaldo to have beaten them on his own.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 28, 2009, 12:09:54 pm
Hilarious.  Thanks for sharing Barca.

I watched United's Carling Cup match last night - probably the most entertaining United squad I've seen all season.  Obertan was amazing - one of the most technically gifted 20-year olds I've seen in a long time and Tosic and Macheda were great as well.  The only downside was Macheda had a little too much of the Ronaldo Kool-aid and lost a ton of possession with too many tricks.  Left-Back Da Silva in the midfield wasn't the strongest positioning for him, but it worked out ok (I doubt we'll see it again).

And just for shoeshine - Owen's goal was vintage 20 year old Mikey.

Anyhow, the future is bright at Old Trafford and SAF's "no more players over 25" strategy looks like it will keep United competitive for years to come.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 28, 2009, 10:49:24 pm
Hilarious.  Thanks for sharing Barca.

I watched United's Carling Cup match last night - probably the most entertaining United squad I've seen all season.  Obertan was amazing - one of the most technically gifted 20-year olds I've seen in a long time and Tosic and Macheda were great as well.  The only downside was Macheda had a little too much of the Ronaldo Kool-aid and lost a ton of possession with too many tricks.  Left-Back Da Silva in the midfield wasn't the strongest positioning for him, but it worked out ok (I doubt we'll see it again).

And just for shoeshine - Owen's goal was vintage 20 year old Mikey.

Anyhow, the future is bright at Old Trafford and SAF's "no more players over 25" strategy looks like it will keep United competitive for years to come.

Smackie - you know me more than anyone needs some positives after last weekend, but you must consider the opponent. I was pretty handy 20 years ago and could probably have made at least the Barnsley bench in my prime (okay, maybe not but you get my point).....not intending to be mr. pessimistic, just realistic. We need Wes Brown with some game time though so that's a positive...another bright side to this evening is scumbags got back on the losing trail. As much as they are a fierce rival you have to respect Arsenal, which I don't chelski or scumpool. I also hope Spurs challenge bigtime because 'arry Rednap is a hell of a manager and should've been given a chance with England imho. United have always had an excellent youth program. Giggs -2x Nevile - Beckham - Scholes - Butt - O'Shea etc. etc. they just never get credit for it because they're a rich team who splash out now and again. Having said all that an entertaining game is an entertaining game so it's all good.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2009, 12:32:07 am
If Real is smart they will stick with Pellegrini. he is a first class coach. Everyone can have a bad run.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 29, 2009, 12:19:03 pm
Smackie - you know me more than anyone needs some positives after last weekend, but you must consider the opponent.

I stand by what I said, even considering the opponent.  United threw an entriely new 11 out there which was mostly dominated by their youth/reserve squads, and I was delighted with what I saw.

Obertan is going to be an incredible first team player for United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 29, 2009, 02:15:23 pm
Smackie - you know me more than anyone needs some positives after last weekend, but you must consider the opponent.

I stand by what I said, even considering the opponent.  United threw an entriely new 11 out there which was mostly dominated by their youth/reserve squads, and I was delighted with what I saw.

Obertan is going to be an incredible first team player for United.

So you're saying...."the future's so bright, they gotta wear shades"???  I agree but United have always  invested in the future.

BTW - I'm part of the referee pool for a HS Girls tournament in Boca this evening. YIKES!!! Wish me luck, I'm quickly realizing the girls are worse than the boys. It's a freebie on the refs part but a good warm up for the high-schools season which starts next week.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 29, 2009, 06:37:28 pm
loan us more players

ashley finally let out the obvious and took newcastle united off the market and made hughton the permanent manager. it was obvious like 2 months ago that moat didnt have the money

he says that 20m is coming in, but i'll believe that when i see it
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 30, 2009, 10:38:12 am
If Real is smart they will stick with Pellegrini. he is a first class coach. Everyone can have a bad run.

seriously? what did he do with River Plate or Villarreal? or even before, not sure I would consider him a first class coach. Villarreal started being a good team before he joined them, he got there when they had money to buy good players. I think he was hired for Real Madrid because he looks like a gentleman and is always well dressed like Queiroz or Capello, but not like Del Bosque, who was fired but was the one who made a good football team. Not joking, Florentino Perez wants players and coaches to sell t-shirts, appear in fancy magazines and make money, this monday before losing 4-0 against a small team from a working class neighborhood in Madrid, all the Madrid players got their new fancy Audi cars. It is a joke of a club. By the way, who did they want before Pellegrini? Wenger, another coach considered a gentleman. Anyhow, in principle I am against firing coaches in the middle of the season, but as a Barcelona fan, I hope they keep Pellegrini until the end of the year.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 30, 2009, 04:32:21 pm
Benitez to Real Madrid at the end of this season - remember where you heard it first.

I doubt Wenger will move because he really does seem like a man of honor and has it in his head he WILL bring the Champions League to Arse.

Mourinho will stay at inter because he wants the United job so bad he can taste it so prob won't go anywhere until (if) it happens, which it won't.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 09, 2009, 03:01:06 pm
I know I've gotten away from posting schedules do to my own busy schedule, but I'll get back to it.

What you need to know now is that the 1st legs of the other three European World Cup playoffs will be live on Setanta.

Ireland vs. France will be pay-per-view only for BOTH legs.

Portugal's second game will be on Setanta live and the Greece game will supposedly be on ESPN2.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 10, 2009, 12:04:06 pm
Ireland vs. France will be pay-per-view only for BOTH legs.

i know i shouldnt be surprised, but i am a little bummed
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 17, 2009, 06:03:15 pm
I've always told you he was a pussy. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=699533&sec=england&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on November 18, 2009, 10:40:57 am
hope everyone says a little prayer for the boys in green tonight!.....monumental odds but stranger things have happened

I will be watching at Lucky Bar
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 18, 2009, 12:42:09 pm
Keep a clear head and get it PK's - anything can happen there.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on November 18, 2009, 01:07:35 pm
allez les bleus!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 18, 2009, 01:08:26 pm
allez les bleus!

Friendship. Over.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on November 18, 2009, 02:27:32 pm
so can i come over tonight to watch the game with you? (assuming you can dvr pay-per-view).

i'll bring a nice beaujolais or chateauneuf-du-pape.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on November 18, 2009, 03:20:05 pm
surprised no mention but world cup group heads were announced yesterday... the usual suspects italy, germany, brazil, south africa, england and spain.. interesting argentina held on...seems rather undeserving.

france will be a group head if it makes it.. or netherlands would take their place

the draw will be december 6...

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 18, 2009, 06:07:39 pm
allez les bleus!

Friendship. Over.
i should hope so

prem marches on saturday are looking tasty
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on November 18, 2009, 06:36:08 pm
Henry once a cheater always a cheater. I am remembering of course his ridiculous dive against Spain that turned around that World Cup match in 2006. I am sure there are dozens of other examples.

Ireland should have finished them off earlier when they had the chance.. ..

I've always believed that with certain teams - call them legacy teams- there is a bias for them - not sure if its on purpose or just subconscious- and you have to beat them by more than one goal.. The Italys, Germanys, Brazils, the home team in the World Cup itself.. something is always going to get called or not called in their favor and if you want to win it has to be convincing and leave nothing to chance and no margin for referee error.. You particularly see these things come up at the World CUps and key qualifying matchups..

Too bad for Ireland really.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 18, 2009, 07:23:14 pm
My disdain for Thierry Henry has reached new boundaries, andI really didn't think it could.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjTxllNRKM4

I feel terribly for Ireland.  When it went into extra time, I was dreaming of two weeks in Ireland for the World Cup this year...

Anybody checked on Brennser yet?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 18, 2009, 07:30:53 pm
Anybody checked on Brennser yet?

"Cheating bastards - am medicating heavily w alcohol right now"

He'll be just fine....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on November 19, 2009, 11:08:38 am
lots of complicated emotions and what-if's today (and a blinding headache)

terrible terrible decision - I mean, what Henry did was probably illegal in basketball as well!

But with better finishing on our part it shouldn't have even gone to extra time and quite frankly if an Irish player had done it I probably wouldn't have cared that much......

Proud of the lads, in awe at how Trap transformed the team in two years, sick of moral victories.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on November 19, 2009, 08:36:04 pm
the way that the french won was a disgrace.  that goal should not have counted - how come no one here has said anything in favor of instant replay?!?  that would solve the problem.  even *baseball* has replay for home-runs - i.e. scoring plays.  i understand that there is a tradition to defend blah blah blah, and every single call shouldn't be subject to video review, but a game shouldn't be decided on the ref's inability to see all things at all times.

quite frankly if an Irish player had done it I probably wouldn't have cared that much......

i heart brennser... a level-headed fan.  or maybe it's the hangover talking :P
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 30, 2009, 08:46:31 am
FC Barcelona 1-0 Real Madrid
Ronaldo, keep trying.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 02, 2009, 06:19:44 pm
France loses the top seeding they were supposed to have as of just a week ago to Netherlands..

I'd hate to be a top seed and have either France or Portugal in my group.. I'll tell you that..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: stu47 on December 03, 2009, 12:35:33 am
why do I see a Portugal, Brazil, Ivory Coast draw in the US future.......
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on December 03, 2009, 05:51:23 pm
19 hours to go before the WC drawing: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/livedraw
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on December 03, 2009, 06:24:08 pm
the way that the french won was a disgrace.  that goal should not have counted - how come no one here has said anything in favor of instant replay?!?  that would solve the problem.  even *baseball* has replay for home-runs - i.e. scoring plays.  i understand that there is a tradition to defend blah blah blah, and every single call shouldn't be subject to video review, but a game shouldn't be decided on the ref's inability to see all things at all times.
I think if a sport chooses not to have replay because of tradition, then they have no right to complain when a call goes wrong.

The most ridiculous thing out of this entire story is someone in FIFA wants to punish Henry over this. Holy shit, your guys missed the call. Players in every sport ever commit some random minor penalty from time to time, and if its caught, fine, call it. But when its not, you can't go back and place the competitive blame on the player. Imagine if football fans wanted a defensive back fined for a non-called pass interference penalty instead of being mad at the referee who missed the call. What a simply unconscionable position to take.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on December 03, 2009, 06:57:57 pm
I think if a sport chooses not to have replay because of tradition, then they have no right to complain when a call goes wrong.

that's frikken brilliant.  great observation.

The most ridiculous thing out of this entire story is someone in FIFA wants to punish Henry over this.
 
i haven't heard that, but that would indeed be unconscionable.

in the 2006 WC final, there was a long delay between zidane's head-butt and the red card.  i remember reading/hearing that the only reason he got ejected was b/c they kept replaying the hit on the giant screens  - the refs saw the replays, and not the hit in real-time.  sounds like the french have the most to lose from the introduction of instant replay :P
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 04, 2009, 09:50:31 am
the official shouldnt need instant replay to make the correct call there, and tradition doesnt obsolve him of the duty to get blantant handball calls correct. plus henry was offsides to begin with

by the same logic, fifa should expect complaints if ireland (or bosnia-herzegovina) were hard done in a seeded playoff that was supposed to be unseeded...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 04, 2009, 02:46:07 pm
why do I see a Portugal, Brazil, Ivory Coast draw in the US future.......
way off. wow.

i dont think this could have worked out better
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 04, 2009, 03:50:47 pm
i dont think this could have worked out better

For England, no.  They must be stoked.  I'm a little worried that the US folks are overlooking Slovenia.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 04, 2009, 04:06:36 pm
slovenia arent going to be the easiest win in the world, but they are certainly in the bottom 3 of the other euro pot. certainly an easier match than any team in the u.s.'s last wc group
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 06, 2009, 02:17:22 pm
Sun Headline after World Cup draw:

England
Algeria
Slovenia
Yanks

(emphasis not added, that's exactly how it looked)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 12, 2009, 03:22:38 pm
Tevez update: seems to be finding his form.

Tevez moving may have worked out best for both ManU and City.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 12, 2009, 04:18:22 pm
after today i cant decide if i'm more convinced that everton/landon donovan is a good fit or impressed that they got a point at the bridge. too bad man u couldnt capitalize.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 18, 2009, 08:37:15 am
2009/10 UEFA Champions League first knockout round draw

different calendar this year, not nice, but anyway, that's what we have, first games on the 16/17 and 23/24 February. Return games  9/10 and 16/17 of March.


VfB Stuttgart (GER) v FC Barcelona (ESP)
Olympiacos FC (GRE) v FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) v Chelsea FC (ENG)
FC Bayern Mnchen (GER) v ACF Fiorentina (ITA)
PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) v Sevilla FC (ESP)
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) v Real Madrid CF (ESP)
FC Porto (POR) v Arsenal FC (ENG)
AC Milan (ITA) v Manchester United FC (ENG)

predictions
Barcelona, Bordeaux, Chelsea, Bayern, Sevilla, Lyon, Porto and Manchester Utd.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 05, 2010, 03:13:38 pm
I have no inside scoop on this Setanta 2010 thing, but as as soon as I do, I'll let you know.

Best I can tell right now is that Setanta USA can't meet it's $1M obligation to Fox and won't have anymore games after Jan 6.

No word on who's picking them up, but there aren't a whole lot of choices.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 05, 2010, 03:38:44 pm
wow

one site has versus as a theory

had to see this coming though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 05, 2010, 03:40:37 pm
wow

one site has versus as a theory

had to see this coming though

I will throw stuff.  You have no idea how angry this will make me.

I really can't see ESPN passing this oportunity up though...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on January 05, 2010, 05:01:24 pm
I will throw stuff.  You have no idea how angry this will make me.

why?  sorta makes sense - versus covers fringe sports ("fringe" as defined by US popular taste) like hockey, snowboard, etc.  euro soccer would fit in there quite nicely.

do you not have versus?  is it not in HD? 

admittedly ESPN would be better, since they have multiple channels.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 05, 2010, 05:11:44 pm
I may be way behind the 8 ball on this but EPLtalk suggests FSC will just absorb them?


http://www.epltalk.com/setantas-likely-demise-will-be-a-dark-day-for-soccer-fans-in-us/14502

http://www.epltalk.com/breaking-fox-sports-international-in-talks-to-acquire-setanta-sports/14489

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 05, 2010, 05:13:05 pm
fringe?? US popular taste aside ESPN already shows EPL, Champs League and most major tourneys and plenty of room in their schedules for more

I will throw stuff.  You have no idea how angry this will make me.

why?  sorta makes sense - versus covers fringe sports ("fringe" as defined by US popular taste) like hockey, snowboard, etc.  euro soccer would fit in there quite nicely.

do you not have versus?  is it not in HD? 

admittedly ESPN would be better, since they have multiple channels.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 05, 2010, 05:18:33 pm
I will throw stuff.  You have no idea how angry this will make me.

why?  sorta makes sense - versus covers fringe sports ("fringe" as defined by US popular taste) like hockey, snowboard, etc.  euro soccer would fit in there quite nicely.

do you not have versus?  is it not in HD? 

admittedly ESPN would be better, since they have multiple channels.
versus is not available on directv. directv had the setanta alternate channel exclusively, so if you were choosing your programing provider based on the prem, you probably have dtv

honestly i read versus as a theory among like 5 others, vomitted in my mouth and forgot the rest of what i read. so yeah i have an idea how angry this will make you
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on January 05, 2010, 05:22:32 pm
fringe??

what?  are you denying that in this country, european soccer isn't mainstream?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 05, 2010, 05:25:45 pm
theyre on tv more than the nhl even without setanta and fsc
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 05, 2010, 05:27:05 pm
I may be way behind the 8 ball on this but EPLtalk suggests FSC will just absorb them?

It just doesn't make sense though because Setanta pays $2-3 Million dollars a year to lease the additional EPL games from FSC (who has the sole contract with the EPL and then leases the broadcast to another vendor, in this case Setanta).  When Setanta couldn't make the first payment, ESPN then picked up some of Setanta's games (the Sat morning match and the Monday night match).

If Fox didn't need the money from a separate vendor in the first place, why even make the deal?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 05, 2010, 05:31:50 pm
yeah, pretty much....as gods shoeshine said, its on TV more than hockey - and maybe this is a big city bias but quite frankly alot of the people I know in DC are way more into european soccer than even some of the big 3 (or 4) US sports - if its fringe why are the midwestern kids of people I know pestering me to pick up Man U gear whenever I visit Ireland??

Cycling, yeah thats fringe.



fringe??

what?  are you denying that in this country, european soccer isn't mainstream?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 05, 2010, 06:22:02 pm
Warning: Contains link has spoilers.

If you're watching today's Fulham-Stoke match later today, don't click the link.  If you're not watching it, it's worth it to see Dempsey's goal:

http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2010/01/clint-dempseys-wonder-goal.html

Not bad for a yank.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 05, 2010, 06:35:35 pm
niiiiice!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 06, 2010, 04:37:38 pm
so should i cancel setanta or hold tight
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 06, 2010, 06:03:03 pm
so should i cancel setanta or hold tight

I don't think you're going to have a choice.  It's certainly going out of business but I have opted to wait for an announcement (it's prorated and costing me 50 cents a day to wait and see).  If you cancel and Fox buys the channel and broadcasts the games, you're out for 10 days.

There is supposed to be a big announcment on Fox Soccer Report tonight, though it could be about the channel going HD....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 06, 2010, 08:53:23 pm
There is supposed to be a big announcment on Fox Soccer Report tonight, though it could be about the channel going HD....

Or that they have a new female co-host replacing Carlos Machado....hilarious.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 07, 2010, 06:35:31 pm
so should i cancel setanta or hold tight

Still no official word, but my favorite comment thus far, from a QPR fan:

"Hey - bonus Championship coverage this weekend - score!"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 08, 2010, 08:48:56 pm
Setanta's online schedule now shows EPL matches for this weekend.  No idea what this means except that I hope you didn't cancel.

Now only the weather can keep us from watching this weekends matches...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2010, 05:18:05 pm
lando looked decent today...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 09, 2010, 06:30:16 pm
lando looked decent today...

Agreed, he did better than I had expected and the Everton fans certainly appreciated his efforts.  His speed was confirmed too - I always thought he looked faster than he really is because he plays over here, but he was definitely one of the faster guys on the pitch today.  If he had gotten that ball to find the net in the 52nd minute, it would have been a dream debut with a goal and an assist. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 10, 2010, 09:45:22 pm
not sure this adds much but posting anyway

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2010/0111/1224262051406.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 12, 2010, 09:43:19 am
do you man u supporters have any thoughts on the debt?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 12, 2010, 10:46:21 am
yes, its scary and obviously less than ideal but I'm not sure I fully understand the "financialese" behind it all - hoping that some rich sheikh makes the Glazers an offer they can't refuse and writes off the debt  ::)

this is turning out to be a bit of a transitional season anyway - I don't buy the whole we don't have enough money to buy new players argument - I'm 100% behind Fergie in not paying double what any given player is worth - there are just not that many Ronaldo's around and those that are are not for sale

but as we've discussed elsewhere in the thread everyone is struggling this year so despite our relative lack of form it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we snuck the title again

and fwiw I think Liverpool are in worse shape relatively speaking
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 12, 2010, 01:32:05 pm
do you man u supporters have any thoughts on the debt?

Say you have a credit card that's nearly maxxed out.  You realize that you're paying 15% in interest when other credit card companies are offering much lower rates.  Wouldn't you look for a deal with another credit card company offering you a lower interest rate, especially in this ecomony?

When the Glazers bought United, 15% seemed like a good deal.  Now that the economy has tanked, 15% is way too high to make payments on and they're looking for someone to restructure their debt.  There is always the possibility that the restructuring will lead to a complete sale of the club, but I think that they really are just looking to restructure the debt.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 12, 2010, 01:44:42 pm
not sure this adds much but posting anyway

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2010/0111/1224262051406.html



I hear this will be $15 a month and be in HD, but we shall see.  I will feel pretty betrayed if this is not in HD and they put the good matches there, otherwise I have no problem with this. 


http://www.latimes.com/sports/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-soc-fox-soccer-second-network,0,7282981.story

NEW YORK (AP) ? Fox will announce Tuesday that it is launching its second all-soccer network in the United States on March 1.

The new network, called Fox Soccer Plus, will televise matches of the European Champions League, England's Premier League, the English Football Association Cup and the Italian Serie A.

Fox Soccer Channel began operation in 1997 and changed its name to FSC five years ago.

"As America's interest in the world's game is increasing, the launch of Fox Soccer Plus will complement and enhance our current programming on Fox Soccer Channel," new FSC general manager David Nathanson said.

The new network will draw content from Setanta USA, whose sublicenses with Fox are expiring, a person familiar with the negotiations said Monday, speaking on condition of anonymity because that detail won't be included in the announcement.

Fox, a division of Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, is negotiating with cable carriers to determine what tiers the new network will be placed on. The new network will be broadcast in high definition; Fox also has been preparing to start high definition telecasts of FSC.

Fox has been televising the Premier League in the U.S. since 1998 and sublicenses some of the games to Setanta USA and ESPN2, which is televising 48 matches this season.

Also Monday, FSC said it was hiring Andy Gray of News Corp.'s Sky Sports in Britain for its studio show during this year's World Cup. Gray, a former Scotland national team player, worked for ESPN's U.S. coverage of the 2008 European Championship.

Richard Keys of Sky Sports also will be a part of FSC's World Cup coverage. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 12, 2010, 02:35:40 pm
matches in hd, maybe add a few more leagues, i could see this working

its hard to imagine it being worse than setanta but i'll reserve judgement.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2010, 03:47:01 pm
so liverpool have crashed out of the fa cup, the league cup, the cl and are on the outside looking in of the top 4. now torres is out for 6 weeks and jerkard is out for two. are they the new newcastle or what
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on January 14, 2010, 04:18:47 pm
so liverpool have crashed out of the fa cup, the league cup, the cl and are on the outside looking in of the top 4. now torres is out for 6 weeks and jerkard is out for two. are they the new newcastle or what

Well, at least they signed Maxi Rodriguez.. I think that could work out well for them going forward...

Tevez- much to the delight of everyone on this thread I'm sure- is kicking ass and taking Man City upwards..

As I said many months ago: say what you will about him the guy wins wherever he goes.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/sunsport_columnists/2813939/Id-pick-Tevez-over-Berba.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on January 20, 2010, 02:33:14 pm
Tevez is like Higuain, a good player, but that's it. Berbatov, decent player also.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2010, 02:45:09 pm
Tevez can score all goals he wants in losing efforts.  I don't care....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2010, 02:47:38 pm
I'm hearing there's nothing to worry about for Fox Soccer+ to be on Directv.  It will likely run about the same price as Setanta.  No word on whether or not Fox moves all the best games to FS+ because of the fee though....

March 1 is date I'm hearing for both Fox Soccer Channel to be in HD and FS+ added to the channel lineup for Directv.  It is not likely that DTV subscribers will get Man United-Aresnal in HD this weekend (I'm not certain about other providers).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 29, 2010, 03:23:06 pm
pretty good weekend. i already have my dvr set for toon. bunch of new players too, should be fun

nice that man u/arse is huge this year. best big 4 match up
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 31, 2010, 06:41:59 pm
Damn, I'm in such a good mood right now!

I even decided to go to Yoga with Smackette and buy a lottery ticket because Park actually scored....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 31, 2010, 07:08:55 pm
fanfuckingtastic

that rooney goal was a thing of beauty.....nani's wasn't bad either

pretty good for a club in 'crisis'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 31, 2010, 09:18:25 pm
I'm moving on to "brownies" now because I'm still on such a buzz....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2010, 12:47:48 pm
I'm moving on to "brownies" now because I'm still on such a buzz....

This was a horrible idea.  I'll let venerable share some of the brilliance that spewed out of my mouth last night, but all I really remember is being catatonic and puking.  Maybe a whole brownie was too much....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 03, 2010, 12:05:17 am
By now we're all rooting for Rooney for Captain of England because he'd never sleep with your wife (though you'll want to keep and eye on your granny), but this one I didn't see coming:

John Harkes left off 1998 US World Cup Squad because he was sleeping with Eric Wynalda's Wife (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/4881732/ce/us/alleged-affair-hurt-98-team&cc=5901?ver=us)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 03, 2010, 09:54:37 am
as far as the terry situation goes, they cant stick by him. let the guy have a private life, but how can you tolerate a leader sleeping with a teammate's wife. coming from the usmnt view, anything to unsettle a team in your group is a good thing i suppose

i have fox football fone-in on the dvr and havent watched it yet. it just hasnt been as good without steven cohen, up until now i suppose
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2010, 02:04:41 pm
as far as the terry situation goes, they cant stick by him.

They dropped Terry this morning, but I bet that's less exciting to you than this move:

Best says no to Toon #9 Shirt: "That shirt has to be earned." (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=736783&sec=england&cc=5901)

I love players like that...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 05, 2010, 02:46:13 pm
yeah, right stance to take, especially because it hasnt been a popular signing. not sure why it hasnt been
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 05, 2010, 03:07:04 pm
also i am at home for the snowpocalypse ii, so i get to watch a steam of todays match
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 05, 2010, 03:23:57 pm
oh poo, no tv anywhere on the net
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on February 05, 2010, 05:13:07 pm
Ref that didn't see Henry's handball is going to be a ref at WC..

Disgusting but not surprising.... FIFA stinks.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 10, 2010, 12:58:21 pm
The Champions League final has been moved by Fox Sports from FX to your local Fox Network for Saturday May 22 - NATIONWIDE. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 10, 2010, 03:01:25 pm
hoping dtv holds out for arse/pool this afternoon
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 10, 2010, 03:24:18 pm
hoping dtv holds out for arse/pool this afternoon

Will you let me know if it's in HD?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 10, 2010, 04:54:42 pm
it is not. on setanta though

i think dish network only was going to bring fsc hd online this week
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2010, 01:13:22 pm
Ughh.  Giggs out 4 weeks with a broken arm ahead of European clashes....

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on February 11, 2010, 01:26:45 pm
huh?  what 's the issue here?

i thought soccer was played with your feet...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2010, 01:41:35 pm
huh?  what 's the issue here?

i thought soccer was played with your feet...

I expect comments like that from an American....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2010, 01:52:32 pm
smackie said 4 weeks, not 4 months...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2010, 01:59:43 pm
And the worst part is I can't remember when I've been so proud of the lads after that performance at Villa Park AFTER Nani's stupid tackle. They were REALLY good. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2010, 02:05:47 pm
and on a day when liverpool were shocking, no less
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2010, 02:10:33 pm
And Landy Cakes breaking Ashley Cole's ankle....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2010, 04:49:27 pm
wonder if moyes is going to start having him take the penalties
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on February 11, 2010, 05:10:18 pm
yesterday was a good day for Man U (apart from the sending off, the dropped 2 points and the broken arm :P )

Cole being out is a big deal - he's a nob, but he can play

and Terry's head ain't in it

its a two horse race and 4 in a row beckons!! (I think that would be a first for Fergie)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2010, 06:02:59 pm
and Terry's head ain't in it

I've never seen him so bad.  He misjudged at least three balls in the air and over ran a couple.  He was at fault (at least partially, though I would say majorly) for both goals.  And I'm trying to remember, but I think the penalty was a defender making up for his error.


Either way, bad sign for Chelsea and England.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 16, 2010, 03:26:02 pm
I'm going on radio silence as I can't watch the match until tonight, but I did want to let folks know that the Milan-United match is in HD on your regional sports network, but in SD on Setanta.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 17, 2010, 12:46:38 pm
That was about as bad as I've seen the squad in a winning effort in my lifetime.  If Milan weren't older than god (or had they converted any of there chances in the first half) it really would have been the end of the Champions League for United.  As it is now, I REALLY like the 2-3 lead...

Oh, and SAF, here's the text I sent my brother-in-law when I saw the starting lineup:  WTF?!?!  Nani instead of Valencia?  Partnered with Park? Makes no sense... 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 17, 2010, 05:21:15 pm
I know I'm breaking the rules here and posting about a live match (I won't ruin the final score), but wait until you see the goals the Gunners give up today.  High comedy.  Wenger might quit tonight.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 17, 2010, 05:30:48 pm
i'm listening to the toon/coventry match on the radio. jonas was unstoppable
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on February 17, 2010, 05:45:14 pm
I know I'm breaking the rules here and posting about a live match (I won't ruin the final score), but wait until you see the goals the Gunners give up today.  High comedy.  Wenger might quit tonight.
just watched em on youtube - WOW!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 17, 2010, 06:53:30 pm
just watched em on youtube - WOW!!!!

There's no way this link works in 12 hours but here you go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwO1wq0f1SM

Wenger is all over the ref, who, I might point out is the same ref from the France-Ireland game!  Theirry Henry used to do that all the time, Wenger...sometimes he got away with it, sometimes he didn't.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 17, 2010, 07:25:12 pm
absolutely shocking. to be fair, its rare that the free kick from the back pass is restarted, but you have to have the defender stand right over it to make sure
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 05, 2010, 01:52:09 pm
You may commence your self-congratulation:

Owen Out For the Season (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=750865&sec=england&cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 08, 2010, 01:35:05 pm
I don't usually root for a labor strike, but I am in this case:

In no rush to exit, Donovan savors confidence-boosting run at Everton (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/grant_wahl/03/08/donovan.everton/index.html?eref=sihp)

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/writers/grant_wahl/03/08/donovan.everton/landon-donovan-home.jpg)


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 08, 2010, 04:01:53 pm
i swear phil neville was chanting U S A after the goal. he really was something when he came on, but hull have to have that sinking feeling. heard that chelsea might be after lando in the summer though
You may commence your self-congratulation:

Owen Out For the Season (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=750865&sec=england&cc=5739)
it doesnt seem right to crow over injuries, and i got over rooting against he-who-will-not-be-named as much as i can, but you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 08, 2010, 04:16:40 pm
i swear phil neville was chanting U S A after the goal.

He absolutely was, as were the 30K+ Brits in attendance.


heard that chelsea might be after lando in the summer though

This would be a huge hit to his playing time, but I don't see Everton outbidding Chelsea if those rumors are true.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 08, 2010, 04:33:33 pm
yeah, i dont like the rumored chelsea move either. moyes is the best manager for him, bar none. however, i dont see everton having the cash to meet mls's asking price

also, i'm gutted for holden. hope he can come back for the world cup, i really like his game. he was good for bolton in his last game
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 11, 2010, 02:35:32 am
Real Dumped, United Romp
(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/0310/cristianoronaldowoe20100310_412x232.jpg)

Loved that.

Also loved the Beckham recpetion, then boo when he first touched the ball.  Awesome.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 11, 2010, 11:38:16 pm
real madrid, the "real" is starting to sound like a joke, all these millions invested over the years have translated in six years in a row losing in the round of sixteen in the champions league. great, brilliant, huge failure. to read the press in madrid before and after the game is a fantastic experience.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on March 14, 2010, 09:44:15 pm
i know many a tear will be shed here:

Report: David Beckham to miss World Cup with torn Achilles tendon

MILAN, Italy -- David Beckham will miss the World Cup and most if not all the Los Angeles Galaxy season after tearing his left Achilles' tendon Sunday while playing for AC Milan.

His international career for England is all but over. It remains to be seen how much he'll have left for the Galaxy and Major League Soccer.

"He will miss the World Cup for sure," a person familiar with the injury told The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity because an official announcement had not been made. The person said it was likely the 34-year-old midfielder will play again.

continued: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/4995401/ce/us/david-beckham-miss-world-cup-torn-achilles-tendon?cc=5901&ver=us
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on March 14, 2010, 10:04:45 pm
i know many a tear will be shed here:
As the only soccer player I know, and the only true Julian American in the sport, I am quite upset!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 15, 2010, 02:30:08 am
This news bummed me out though I'm still not sure he would have made England's squad for South Africa.  Oddly, I wore his England Jersey for the first time in months the night before he picked up the knock....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on March 15, 2010, 02:37:19 am
the only true Julian American in the sport

not true, the sport is full of blow-hard prima donas.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on March 15, 2010, 09:24:00 am
the only true Julian American in the sport

not true, the sport is full of blow-hard prima donas.
Oh really? As an actual American, I can't be assed to give a damn about such coma-inducing dullery to know that.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 16, 2010, 04:00:23 pm
Forgot to mention that I heard Joe Cole to United this off season is a done deal.  Free transfer too.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 16, 2010, 04:04:56 pm
oh yeah, that was the first part of the donovan to chelski deal
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 16, 2010, 04:10:23 pm
oh yeah, that was the first part of the donovan to chelski deal

I knew Coe's contract was up, but I hadn't heard that he was going to United...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 16, 2010, 04:36:41 pm
my bad, dunno why i left that out. i think it was all in one sbi post
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 16, 2010, 05:42:43 pm
Watching the chosen one "mourinho" chelsea was rather enjoyable in the end, but I was bored for most of the first 80.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 17, 2010, 08:50:25 pm
a good variety of countries represented in the last 8

Bayern Munich
Arsenal
Lyon
Manchester United
Inter Milan
CSKA Moscow
Barcelona
Bordeaux

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 19, 2010, 11:51:02 am
Other than drawing CSKA then the Frenchies, Bayern then the Frenchies is a pretty good draw.  Beats Barca/Inter/Arsenal....

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW

Bayern Munich vs Manchester United
Bourdeaux vs Lyon

Arsenal vs Barcelona
Inter Milan vs CSKA Moscow
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on March 22, 2010, 07:15:47 am
yesterday was a great day, we beat the bin dippers and Chelski dropped 2 points - edging closer to history
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 22, 2010, 01:21:54 pm
I was on vacation so I had to watch the match in a bar. I asked a guy the followng question:

"How much you guys want for Torres?  You know, so he can play in the Champions League next year?"

I've never seen a Liverpool supporter so deflated.  I had to buy him a couple rounds...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 22, 2010, 01:53:42 pm
hahahahaha

this made me laugh harder than my facebook newsfeed this morning

but seriously, torres is out the door if they dont get fourth
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 22, 2010, 10:08:17 pm
if messi continues like this, forget about maradona and who knows who else.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on March 22, 2010, 10:46:22 pm
if messi continues like this, forget about maradona and who knows who else.

Agree. He is playing unbelievable!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on March 24, 2010, 10:39:08 pm
Rooney is also really on form... Beckenbauer said that Messi and Rooney are currently the two best players in the world..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on March 30, 2010, 04:45:59 pm
oh no from the matchcast just concluded..

To make matters worse, Rooney has to be helped off the pitch with what looks like a serious injury! Nightmare!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 30, 2010, 07:49:52 pm
Right now, I'm pretty sure that was about the worst minute of my life as a United supporter.

The goal was bad enough (though deserved), but to see Rooney helped off ahead of the Chelsea match - that's downright frightening.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 05, 2010, 04:05:29 pm
hey premier league, we're back. the mackems are still shite, right?

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 05, 2010, 06:21:15 pm
hey premier league, we're back. the mackems are still shite, right?

Welcome back and no, the Mackems looked proper this weekend against Spurs, but all in all, yes, they have struggled this season.  You will get the chance to face them next season however....

PS: Can you bring Forest up with you?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 05, 2010, 06:55:02 pm
haha i did watch that match this weekend. three chances from the spot was kind of nuts. missing two was funny. my spurs loving brother in law was less than stoked

forest deserve to go up. which means they won't
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 07, 2010, 12:13:13 am
he is truly amazing. he is god

(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20100406/i/r3779992490.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 07, 2010, 12:06:33 pm
he is truly amazing. he is god

He was entertaining all by himself yesterday...unbelievable.  Even when I knew the game was out of reach and had baseball to watch, I couldn't turn it off just because I had to see what he was going to do next.  Damn is he being wasted by Maradona....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 07, 2010, 02:35:53 pm
F me - shoeshine called it.  Rooney is starting.  I'm not watching the game live so I won't be back in this thread for a little while.  Just thought I would share.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 07, 2010, 04:54:26 pm
well. THAT sucked......talk about a game of two halves
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 07, 2010, 09:05:39 pm
well. THAT sucked......talk about a game of two halves

I don't like to question SAF, but up 3-0, there really wasn't much need for the suicide squad to be left out there.  I'm sure he was thinking if we can make it until half up 3-0 we can adjust at the half but that was not to be.  I was shocked that Rooney/Gibson/Rafael were all back on the pitch to start the second half.  I thought SAF might make one change out of those three... 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 08, 2010, 07:13:12 am
twas the soft goal that killed us

3-0 at half time and they would have been dead and buried
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2010, 02:10:57 pm
twas the soft goal that killed us

Both soft goals, if you count the goal at the end of the first leg...Agreed.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2010, 02:49:29 pm
And since we're talking about next year already, I like the Hernandez signing, depite hating Mexican footballers.  He plays hard and dives in like Rooney.  He'll have to adjust to the EPL, but should do well given the effort that I've seen him give for Chivas.  I do wonder if this hurts United's chances of signing di Mara though...

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on April 08, 2010, 07:22:41 pm
And since we're talking about next year already, I like the Hernandez signing, depite hating Mexican footballers.  He plays hard and dives in like Rooney.  He'll have to adjust to the EPL, but should do well given the effort that I've seen him give for Chivas.  I do wonder if this hurts United's chances of signing di Mara though...



I really think United should stay  away from Latin American players..something about Ferguson and Latin Americans does not seem to work for Man U:

Veron, Forlan and Tevez..

Forlan is one  of the best strikers in the world and Tevez is a proven winner.... What happened to Veron at ManU will remain one of the great mysteries..he went in as one of the best players in the world (I bought his Man U jersey in Bs. As...) and came out a has been not to mention the 2002 WC debacle..

Frankly, lately Ferguson seems a bit out of it.. his comment about Germans was particularly innane

I'm not sure if I'm forgetting anyone the past 10 years
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2010, 08:13:46 pm
Antonio Valencia, and he's doing just fine...

Forlan is a bit of a mystery to me.  He just couldn't score, depsite many appearances and many chances.  He had over 60 appearances and probably just as many chances, but somehow just couldn't finish, save for a handful of goals.  Most United supporters aren't surprised at his success at Villarreal - he just needed to find that finishing touch, which he clearly has.  He certainly was a frustrating player to watch in Red though.

Veron simply couldn't play without space and the English game didn't lend itself to Veron's style of play.  It's not like he was any better at Chelsea so to say that it's SAF's fault is a bit unfair.  He was brilliant for United in the Champion's League (where he was afforded space) but the defense in the English game was too much for him, both in Manchester and in London.

We've gone over Tevez a million times and nobody ever doubted his talent.  As I've said before, he was let go to City because he wanted to be the highest paid player on the team and United wouldn't do that.  Rooney's still outscoring him and United still lead City by a healthy margin, so I still think SAF made the right decision. 

Unlike Veron and Forlan, Tevez was the right kind of player for United with his effort and constant hussle - the money just wasn't right.  I like the way Hernandez plays and I think he'll also be the right type of player for SAF's tactics.  For 6 million pounds and a match in Guadalajara this summer, a bit of a bargain too.
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Post by: hutch on April 08, 2010, 09:09:04 pm
I remember that Veron was doing very well when he first played for Man U (as I recall in Premier league too as I was watching the Man U games as was all Argentina).... then all of a sudden he crapped out a few months before the 2002 WC and unfortunately Bielsa (then Argentine national team coach) could not adapt at that late point...

You can't deem the T decision a good one because Man U is ahead of City! Come on! City has nowhere the talent Man U has (despite having Tevez)...I mean imagine City if they had Rooney! OK, you probably don't want to imagine that... :) I mean Man U was really really close to progressing in the Champions and winning League.. I have to think Tevez would have helped...

Hernandez is definitely a "bargain".. then again Mexicans can't really play soccer so I'd be skeptical but who knows....I don't know anything about him.... I just know I've never seen a Mexican player I enjoyed watching..well, maybe el Pajaro who for a while reminded me of Caniggia.
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Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2010, 12:07:24 am
Mexicans can't really play soccer

This is the most enlightened thing you've ever said.

 And there's no doubt Tevez would have helped, but still not worth the price.
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Post by: sweetcell on April 09, 2010, 12:34:03 am
Mexicans can't really play soccer

This is the most enlightened thing you've ever said.

srsly?

admittedly i don't follow soccer as closely as you lot, but c'mon...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 09, 2010, 08:04:26 am
mexicians tend play an ugly game
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Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2010, 01:11:41 pm
Let's look at the the stats, sweetcell (and I LOVE to have this debate with my Mexican friends who simply can't comprehend a gringo who knows footie).

The Mexican National team has made the quarterfinals of the World Cup twice in their "long, illustrious" history and BOTH times it was when they were the host country (they enjoy a distinct advantage playing in The Azteca with the altitude, smog and flying bottles of urine).

When they are not the host nation, they've never made it past the second round, getting bounced by the likes of Bulgaria (94) and the US (2002).  Not exaclty on par with Germany (98) and Argentina (2006)...

They qualify every year (much like the US) because they play in the CONCACAF region, which is weak - very weak.  To illustrate - only 10 of the 40 teams in the region have EVER made the World Cup, and 6 of those have only done it once.  It's been dominated by the US and Mexico for some time.

But the real problem for Mexico is that they've reached a platuea while the one advantage they've had over their larger and wealthier northern neighbor has shrunk to a near embarassment (the US is 13-9-8 in it's last 30 games against Mexico in the last 20 years, with all but one of Mexico's win coming in Mexico).

So there you have it.  They're not better than the US, and I'm quite certain few will argue that the US play real soccer.  Both teams are quite ugly to watch....
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 09, 2010, 02:56:22 pm
im just blown away that there are 40 teams in concacaf

i wish mexico played better football, and i wish they had more quality. but every time the u.s. and mexico play someone gets a boot to the eye or something

i just hope the next generation of u.s. players can string together some passes
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Post by: stu47 on April 09, 2010, 05:25:44 pm
witness the 2002 round of 16 game....US won 2-0, Mexico had at least one red card and I believe it was a cleat to Claudia Reyna's face....(Or something just as bad involving Cobi Jones....memory fails me)
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Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2010, 05:50:09 pm
Congrats Barca.  Well earned.
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Post by: Barcelona on April 12, 2010, 10:34:20 am
moderators, my recent posts seem to get deleted, not sure why.
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Post by: vansmack on April 12, 2010, 12:57:48 pm
You'll never guess what I named my new Chihuahua?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 12, 2010, 01:10:08 pm
fergie?

wait, chihauhua?
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Post by: vansmack on April 12, 2010, 01:15:40 pm
(http://picsrv.manutd.com/?fif=/manu/img_10_34372_8946.jpg&obj=iip,1.0&wid=480&hei=179&rgn=0.03125,0.1592920353982301,0.9375,0.528023598820059&cvt=jpeg)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 12, 2010, 01:24:59 pm
i would have guess santonio if it wasnt this thread
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Post by: vansmack on April 16, 2010, 01:11:56 pm
Anybody catch the London Derby this week?  I must say, I normally hate watching matches at White Hart Lane (the viewing angle with the camera on the roof annoys the piss out of me), but ESPN's HD feed with 5.1 suround made that match even more entertaining - and it was already a pretty damn good match.  HD might save White Hart Lane...

Oh, and I watched Danny Rose's goal at least 25 times and I was amazed each time....sick.
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Post by: vansmack on April 17, 2010, 10:49:40 am
I really shouldn't be this drunk at quarter of 8 in the morning...
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Post by: hutch on April 17, 2010, 10:59:55 am
I really shouldn't be this drunk at quarter of 8 in the morning...

ha ha.. I just had a feeling Manchester United would score at the end...

Thats the kind of stuff that separates the big teams- the winners- from the also rans..
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Post by: vansmack on April 17, 2010, 02:17:51 pm
(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/0417/nevillekiss20100417_500x281.jpg)

I'm not saying that I would, but if I had been on the pitch at that moment (or even at the visitors end), I can't say definitively that I wouldn't either.
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Post by: vansmack on April 17, 2010, 04:35:11 pm
Oh, and the ongoing disintegration of John Terry has reached crisis mode.  Fabio had better start to worry...

He should have been callled for a penalty for tugging a shirt as the player was breaking away from him into the box a few minutes before he WAS called for a penalty - yet somehow he escapes a card for handling in the box in front of his keeper.  Then he got into a spat with a fan heading down the tunnel at halftime (wonder what the fan said...).

This was only topped by his second half performance, where he earns his first yellow for a takedown that very easily could have been a red card had Alex not been ruled close to the play.  Only three minutes later does he get sent off for a late tackle on Bale near the sidelines.

Really, four bookable offenses, 2-3 possible penalty calls, two yellow cards, one red card and a spat with a fan all in one day.  The point of all this?  Just to tell you about the Chelsea fan who told me about the article where I was told to admire John Terry's balls (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/apr/17/john-terry-chelsea-title) after I made an off-color joke about how much the man has fallen apart before today's Spurs match.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 19, 2010, 08:55:19 am
i agree on jt, obviously. but wasnt it funny that ancelotti uses his last two subs at the half and drogs pulls up limp before they even kick off? if i wasnt holding a baby i would have fallen out of my chair
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 19, 2010, 11:29:45 am
(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/0417/nevillekiss20100417_500x281.jpg)

I'm not saying that I would, but if I had been on the pitch at that moment (or even at the visitors end), I can't say definitively that I wouldn't either.
best zing i've read "Don't have a problem with him being gay.........but kissing someone with ginger hair thats just wrong."
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Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2010, 12:38:17 pm
i agree on jt, obviously. but wasnt it funny that ancelotti uses his last two subs at the half and drogs pulls up limp before they even kick off? if i wasnt holding a baby i would have fallen out of my chair

It was pretty amazing, but anybody but Drogba, right?  Has there ever been a player in football who so blatantly plays injury mind games with defenders to attempt to gain an advantage?  It's far beyond absurd at this point. 
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Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2010, 03:06:43 pm
best zing i've read "Don't have a problem with him being gay.........but kissing someone with ginger hair thats just wrong."

Was listening to a fantastic podcast discussion about who you would kiss on the team you support.
 
Here are mine:

Kiss on both cheeks - Vidic

Kiss on the lips- Owen

Tounge- Hargreaves
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 19, 2010, 03:10:38 pm
i'll go colocinni, carroll, harper in the same order
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 19, 2010, 04:25:16 pm
once he comes back from loan, its all about xisco though
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Post by: walkonby on April 19, 2010, 07:05:21 pm
uhmmmm.
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Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2010, 07:57:05 pm
uhmmmm.

You're right.  We should've posted pictures....
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Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2010, 08:02:18 pm
On the Cheeks...
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:hvIVrCmk9BBP6M:http://www.topnews.in/files/Nemanja-Vidic.jpg)

On the lips...
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:qBJTmw7lz7o71M:http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/33508.gif)

Tongue....
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:rbpxQS12R3y38M:http://soccerlens.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/owen-hargreaves.jpg)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 20, 2010, 09:12:29 am
i'll go colocinni, carroll, harper in the same order
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2009/2/13/1234535509436/Fabricio-Coloccini-001.jpg)
(http://habs.theoffside.com/files/2009/07/andy-c.jpg)
(http://img.skysports.com/09/09/218x298/Newcastle-United-Steve-Harper_2366833.jpg)
once he comes back from loan, its all about xisco though

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kpA45f4pzBs/Sb787fF0TiI/AAAAAAAABzs/4YS-wpmLNeA/s400/xisco4.thumbnail.jpg)
(http://habs.theoffside.com/files/2009/03/xisco31309h.jpg)
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Post by: walkonby on April 20, 2010, 09:23:13 am
and i didn't come in here before . . . for what reason?
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Post by: sweetcell on April 20, 2010, 10:51:09 am
talk about setting false expectations  :o
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 22, 2010, 04:18:34 pm
ribery has to pay for it? i am SHOCKED
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Post by: vansmack on April 22, 2010, 04:26:20 pm
ribery has to pay for it? i am SHOCKED

That's the greatest joke I've heard about it yet.

I used to have a tie for my most hated team between Italy and France.  Now it's Italy for sure, and only because she was underage.
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Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2010, 04:37:45 pm
(http://upnextinsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/funny-sports-pictures-franck-ribery-returns-uglyer.jpg)

and since i'm in this thread, might as well add:

(http://upnextinsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/129153748009953731.jpg)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 22, 2010, 04:41:23 pm
ribery has to pay for it? i am SHOCKED

That's the greatest joke I've heard about it yet.

i'll be honest, i thought of it this morning and got way too frustrated with the board being down

i dont even like italy and i'm half italian
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Post by: hutch on April 22, 2010, 11:24:24 pm
You can't compare.

France plays elegant, stylish and classy soccer. ENTERTAINING!

The Italians are deadly but are almost always incredibly boring to watch with their cattenacio variant of soccer. Best team in the world up 1-0 (much like Germany is the best team in the world down 1-0). Argentina is definitely one of the worst teams with a 1-0 lead.

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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2010, 03:34:38 pm
rumor going around that gerkard has impregnated a 16 year old. and apparently his wife is banging a derby county player
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Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2010, 04:07:28 pm
rumor going around that gerkard has impregnated a 16 year old. and apparently his wife is banging a derby county player

No shit?

Can't the squad implode AFTER the world cup?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2010, 04:17:09 pm
rumor says notw will have it sunday and he's off to the continent in the summer. so nuts
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Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2010, 04:33:15 pm
rumor says notw will have it sunday and he's off to the continent in the summer. so nuts

I barely got g-e-r-r out of my keyboard in the google window before it autocompleted "gerrard 16 year old".....

Can you imagine L'Pool without Torres and Gerrard next season?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2010, 06:55:17 pm
i just wonder how much of the 90m or so they get will be available for new players
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Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2010, 07:39:53 pm
Won't that be up to the new owners?

Man, no Torres, no Gerrard, likely no Mascheraino and new owners.  Not a good time in Scouserville.  Wish Mankie was around to comment!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2010, 09:05:33 pm
will it be up to them to find a new manager too?
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Post by: stu47 on April 25, 2010, 12:31:54 am
i got some real weird looks in the break room at the inner city nursing home in which I work after commandering the TV this morning in time to celebrate nani's go-ahead goal....yeah, they think im crazy, lol
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Post by: lagas on May 06, 2010, 05:51:21 pm
Manchester United coming to America

Manchester United has finalized plans to play four preseason matches on a North American tour this summer. It will be the club's first visit here in six years. All games will be staged at large venues.

July 16: vs. Celtic at Rogers Centre (SkyDome) in Toronto

July 21: vs. Philadelphia Union at Lincoln Financial Field (NFL)
(Union will move its league match at Colorado scheduled for that date)

July 25: vs. Kansas City Wizards at Arrowhead Stadium (NFL)

July 28: vs. MLS All-Stars at Houston's Reliant Stadium (NFL)

Awaiting word on the proposed Celtic-Rangers match at Fenway Park, a possible Rangers visit to Cowboys Stadium in Dallas to play Club America, and Baltimore's bid for a summer friendly (Manchester City vs. Roma?).
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Post by: walkonby on May 10, 2010, 07:41:38 pm
(http://blog.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/05/03/cover_vanityfair_500.jpg)

(http://blog.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/04/30/world-cup-blog.jpg)

who knew soccer . . . could be so interesting.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2010, 10:39:58 am
hahahaha


anyway i'm sure smackie is crestfallen after this season (i would be), so i'll stay away from the prem for a minute

i just cant believe the nufc board has come out and said there is no money to be spent. looks like 17th will be an accomplishment
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Post by: vansmack on May 11, 2010, 12:28:30 pm
I brought that magazine home for smackette yesterday and she was quite pleased.

As for the season, one fucking week.  Bayern were not the better team and the draw with Blackburn are really what did the squad in. Shame really, but we can't win everything, every year....

Alas, I am in World Cup mode now.  So which should scare England more?

Goalies: Joe Hart, David James, Robert Green

or

Strikers: Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe, Emile Heskey, Wayne Rooney
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2010, 12:37:24 pm
good question. i'd say the keeper situation just because the backline situation has gone quickly from "one of the best in the world" to "questionable". really its been only 6 months or so

i'd have thought that england could play it pretty close to the vest, grind out results and hope the brilliance of rooney could be supplimented by some goals from the midfield. man rooney's groin is messing things up there too
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Post by: vansmack on May 11, 2010, 12:47:02 pm
Yep, the midfield list is pretty deep - hopefully they'll get a lot of goals there.  And I agree, assuming Rooney's healthy, the keeper siutation is much worse, but if that groin/ankle/metatarsal goes out, forget about it.  Notice I didn't even mention a stomp.

BTW - Gerrards NW pad is up for sale and he had no WAG to see him off...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2010, 01:01:15 pm
id rather have bent or defoe over...jeez who do they even start there? hart?

stevie g didnt even have the teenage mistress to send him off? bummer
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Post by: vansmack on May 11, 2010, 01:21:13 pm
stevie g didnt even have the teenage mistress to send him off? bummer

Maybe she was there as I've heard the girl is the daughter of one of the coaches...this story keeps moving so far in one direction that if even half of it is true it's gonna be awesome.

Because we were a former colony, maybe FIFA would let us trade Howard/Guzan/Henneman/Friedl for a decent midfielder?  All would be an improvement over their choices, and probably ours too.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2010, 01:25:27 pm
did they really leave ashley young out? thats nuts
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Post by: vansmack on May 11, 2010, 01:45:59 pm
did they really leave ashley young out? thats nuts

That and the disappearance of David Bentley over the last two years are the clear surprises.  Wasn't he tipped to take over for Becks?

Anyhow, AY, SWP, Aaron Lennon, and Theo Walcott are all very similar players.  If I didn't know any better I would have thought Aaron and Theo were the same person, actually.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2010, 01:57:10 pm
i'd take ashley young all day over swp or lennon. i dont think its even close
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2010, 02:39:02 pm
no davies on the thirty man squad

wow
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Post by: vansmack on May 11, 2010, 03:26:48 pm
no davies on the thirty man squad

I would have to assume that Bradley knows more about Davies health than the general public.

Good for Hercules Gomez though.  Scoring a ton in Mexico....
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 11, 2010, 03:52:22 pm
but they took gooch who is further away supposedly. i guess its more shocking that bradley didnt put davies on the 30 and at least give him a look than not going to south africa at all

and that means we'll seen entirely too much of brian ching

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Post by: hutch on May 11, 2010, 06:55:24 pm
Davies is barely staring to play again. Not a surprise he is left off.

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Post by: vansmack on May 12, 2010, 12:32:40 pm
Hutch - Zanetti and Cambiasso?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 12, 2010, 01:29:52 pm
zanetti is older than me
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Post by: vansmack on May 12, 2010, 04:12:59 pm
zanetti is older than me

So is Juan Sebastian Veron, who is 5 years older than Cambiasso...

Zanetti just captained an undermanned Inter to the Champions League Final...I don't think I can say the same for Ariel Garce, Juan Insaurralde, or Sebastian Blanco.

To the casual observer, which would be a stretch for me to describe myself when it comes to Argentine football, it sure looks like an anti-Europe bias on the part of Maradonna.
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Post by: hutch on May 12, 2010, 05:35:11 pm
I would have taken Zannetti but not Cambiasso.

Its not about who Maradona picks athough thats what all the discussion is about everywhere.. Its about the fact that they don't play as a team... THe talent looks nice on paper but I dont' think its going to work

I'm not optimistic.. not because of the players but because Maradona is a clown.

I think the starting 10  barring some injury (unclear on goalie):

Otamendi, Burdisso, Demichelis, Heinze
Dimaria, Gutierrez, Veron, Mascherano
Messi, Higuain

I would hope that if Messi needs to be subbed it would be Tevez and if Higuain needs to be subbed it be Milito... Palermo and Aguero seem like a bit of a waste to me...I would have liked to have seen Saviola given a chance.. and in the midfield Aimar was the natural guy to work with Messi. Of course neither had a chance.... Their whole careers they have been for some unexplained reason not given their due with the national side.

I like Samuel and Clemente Rodriguez on defense although I'm not too sure about Clemente's form lately..

The midfield looks weak to me.. Veron has a tendency due to his age to get injured... Maradona wants him to run the show but what happens if he gets injured....Aimar should have had the chance given the Riquelme (a first class troublemaker..glad he won't be there)/Maradona bustup..I would have also looked to take Maxi Rodriguez.

This World Cup for the first time I look to focus on the other games and not get so concerned about Argentina... I just don't think they have a chance..

Hopefully - since I'm always wrong on this board- I'll be wrong! :)




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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 12, 2010, 05:38:48 pm
real question: will jonas bring the spiderman mask
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on May 12, 2010, 06:46:59 pm
excuse me, gentlemen, i couldn't but overhear your conversation and have to ask: what language are you speaking?
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Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2010, 01:33:45 am
excuse me, gentlemen, i couldn't but overhear your conversation and have to ask: what language are you speaking?

Ask your wife.
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Post by: vansmack on May 17, 2010, 03:41:10 pm
What!?

"Onyewu has requested and obtained a contract extension from June 30, 2012 until June 30, 2013. With respect to that year, as was his wish, which has been appreciated by the club,  Onyewu has asked not to receive any type of wages. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=788029&sec=europe&cc=5901) This is an exemplary gesture that deserves our sincere congratulations.'' 
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 18, 2010, 08:44:23 am
i dont understand it at all. i thought i misread it the first time i saw it on twitter and disregarded. pretty weird
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Post by: hutch on May 19, 2010, 10:07:56 am
One change ... Samuel will start on D not Burdisso...Romero starting goalkeeper... so starting 11 for Argentina is set.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 19, 2010, 10:44:24 am
does barcelona just have money to burn? not sure why they'd spend 30m+ on another small central midfielder...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 19, 2010, 01:00:13 pm
does barcelona just have money to burn? not sure why they'd spend 30m+ on another small central midfielder...

They give away a free sponsorship on thier shirt to the UN Children's Fund.  What do you think?

On a side note, my world Cup trip is just about finalized (we're debating between Greece and Majorca).  Which shoes should I get?

http://us.havaianas.com/Teams.html
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 19, 2010, 01:08:12 pm
paraguay
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Post by: vansmack on May 19, 2010, 01:44:26 pm
paraguay

Good call, but it's going to be very difficult for me to pass up the Dutch Orange shoes...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 19, 2010, 02:00:17 pm
it makes me hate france even more, because ireland would look freaking awesome. although i hate the rubber-between-toes flip flops
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 21, 2010, 11:33:32 am
man if milner is worth 30m, what is fabregas worth?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 24, 2010, 10:47:48 pm
Not one word on Champions League final?!

Well just for the record Inter won 2-0 against Bayern. Milito scored both goals. Zanetti got his Champions League in his 700th game for the club he joined as a 22 year old back in 1995.

And Mourinho is now headed to Real Madrid after winning another trophy.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 25, 2010, 08:40:26 am
you know, i was going to comment, then realized you left milito off of your argie11 and didnt have a hook
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Post by: vansmack on May 25, 2010, 02:19:34 pm
In defense of Hutch, Milito didn't even make the original 30 for Maradona.  Unbelievable.  Whomever "reminded" Diego about Milito is looking like a genius right now.

That game was destined for disaster when Ribery took his red card in the semi's.  Bayern had little chance without him.

Sadly, for American purposes, I knew the game was not going to do any favors for advancing the game.  I appreciate that Fox ran it on National TV, but I know ESPN's ratings for Barcelona/United on last years Wednesday match were going to equal the Saturday showing.  This probably has more to do with the teams then the play...
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Post by: vansmack on May 25, 2010, 02:21:22 pm
man if milner is worth 30m, what is fabregas worth?

Not after yesterday's match.  I didn't even know he was out there.

This new 5-4 rule, or whatever it is, is going to make a mediocre English player worth a fortune.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 25, 2010, 02:59:26 pm
i would never take a shot at the guy with spiderman in his side. plus higuain scored like a million goals this year

i just struggled for a hook and never went back. honestly i dont really care for bayern nor inter. though i do love jose
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Post by: sweetcell on May 25, 2010, 04:01:20 pm
This new 5-4 rule, or whatever it is, is going to make a mediocre English player worth a fortune.

what is this "5-4 rule"?  is FIFA actually changing the rules of the game, or is this a euphemism for something informal?  google yields nothing on the matter...
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Post by: vansmack on May 25, 2010, 04:11:58 pm
what is this "5-4 rule"?  is FIFA actually changing the rules of the game, or is this a euphemism for something informal?  google yields nothing on the matter...

Sorry.  It's not FIFA, its the Premier League.  And it's usually referred to as the "Homegrown Rule" which came out of a discussion that started as the 5-4 rule.  Anyhow, here are the specifics:

"As of next season [English] clubs will be required to have a squad named of up to 25 players, of which no more than 17 can be over the age of 21 and not home grown," said Scudamore.

"The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system. Clubs will have to declare their 25 at the end of August when the window shuts and then again at the end of January."

This has many clubs scrambling to find players who are both (1) talented and (2) qualify under this rule.  That makes decent players like Milner worth a lot more to Liverpool/Arsenal/Chelsea and maybe even Spurs now.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 25, 2010, 04:15:42 pm
the rule is beyond ridiculous
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Post by: vansmack on May 25, 2010, 04:19:12 pm
the rule is beyond ridiculous

Any team coming up from the Championship will have nothing to worry about.

Welcome back.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 25, 2010, 04:27:08 pm
oh yeah the toon have nothing to worry about there

but the rule still doesnt make sense. i mean, charles nzogbia qualifies
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Post by: hutch on May 25, 2010, 06:26:27 pm
Very pumped up for WC! Only 16 days away... I think there are a couple of killer games the first week...

Very much hoping the US has a good run starting with an unlikely win against England.

I think Brazil and Italy have to be considered the favorites as much as I love Spain and even the Netherlands.

As far as Argentina I hope they play to their comparative strength with three strikers with Tevez a bit back complementing Messi and Higuain/Milito...A 3-3-1-3 instead of 2-4-4
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Post by: vansmack on May 25, 2010, 06:38:25 pm
So my World Cup plans are almost finalized.

London on June 10-13 for US vs England.  Should be a blast and I'd be happy with a draw (but predict 3-0 to Engalnd).

Lisbon for Portugal vs Ivory Coast.

Then Barcelona for Spain vs Switzerland.

Then a beach on either Majorca or Mykonos for the rest of the first round games (I'm letting them fight over who will lower their bid for me the most).

I'll be back in London for the 23rd and the last matches of Group C before heading back.

Obviously the other important matchups are entertwined throughout my travels - we aren't travelling during any match.
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Post by: hutch on May 25, 2010, 06:45:33 pm
Man, Vansmack a tip of my hat.. you got it going on for sure...

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Post by: vansmack on May 25, 2010, 07:00:09 pm
Man, Vansmack a tip of my hat.. you got it going on for sure...

There are a select few that think travelling to Europe to watch the World Cup on TV is a great idea.
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Post by: vansmack on May 26, 2010, 02:49:47 pm
No Ching and I'm happy about it.  Buddle earned his spot last night and I think Gomez is great.  Plus I like to say Hercules in repitition and clap my hands.  Surprised about Beasley.

Goalkeepers: Brad Guzan (Aston Villa, England), Marcus Hahnemann (Wolverhampton, England), Tim Howard (Everton, England).

Defenders: Carlos Bocanegra (Rennes, France), Jonathan Bornstein (Chivas USA), Steve Cherundolo (Hannover, Germany), Jay DeMerit (Watford, England), Clarence Goodson (IK Start, Norway), Oguchi Onyewu (AC Milan, Italy), Jonathan Spector (West Ham, England).

Midfielders: DaMarcus Beasley (Glasgow Rangers, Scotland), Michael Bradley (Borussia Moenchengladbach, Germany), Ricardo Clark (Eintracht Frankfurt, Germany), Clint Dempsey (Fulham, England), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles), Maurice Edu (Glasgow Rangers, Scotland), Benny Feilhaber (AGF Aarhus, Denmark), Stuart Holden (Bolton, England), Jose Torres (Pachuca, Mexico).

Forwards: Jozy Altidore (Hull, England), Edson Buddle (Los Angeles), Robbie Findley (Salt Lake), Herculez Gomez (Puebla, Mexico).
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 26, 2010, 03:09:57 pm
they'll end up playing dempsey up top with jozy and holden on the right, so why bring ching if youre not going to start him. bravo to bradley for realizing this. i think that gomez comes on off the bench a lot for his club team, which helps. not really too many left sided players for the u.s., i'm not that surprised demarcus made it
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Post by: vansmack on May 26, 2010, 04:27:02 pm
not really too many left sided players for the u.s.

If only Giggs had played for America.

I know I made a post in here a while back about how American soccer is at a crossroads, and we have to decide whether we send our best overseas or develop the professional game over here.  Looking at that list, with only four MLS players (3.5 if you think Landy Cakes is gone in August/January), I'm really liking the US chances to make it out of the first round this year, and with a fortunate draw out of the round of 16.  I will go on record now and say that the US squad in 2014 will have no MLS players on it.  And not because the MLS will fold- it's the perfect retirement league for Euro footballers.
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Post by: lagas on May 26, 2010, 04:46:24 pm
funny stuff...

<a href="http://www.sbnation.com/2010/5/26/1488312/US-2010-world-cup-roster-America-athletes
">what if the best american athletes played soccer?[/url]
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Post by: vansmack on May 26, 2010, 04:59:55 pm
funny stuff...

what if the best american athletes played soccer? (http://www.sbnation.com/2010/5/26/1488312/US-2010-world-cup-roster-America-athletes)

I fixed the link for you.   That's pretty funny stuff.

I also liked this one:

THE WORLD CUP, TRANSLATED INTO AMERICAN (http://theunlikelyfan.blogspot.com/2010/05/disclaimer-im-new-to-this-site-and-im.html)

If you're American, soccer probably isn't your cuppa tea. But, due to ESPN's admirably relentless promotion (they'll be unleashing their three Big B's: Bob Ley, Bill Simmons and Bono), you're probably at least a little curious about the World Cup, if you're a sports fan anyway. But when it comes to going the extra mile and actually learning about all the teams, perhaps that sounds like something for which you can't be bothered.

I'm here to help.

What follows is a list of every one of the World Cup's 32 teams, alongside the American sports team it most parallels. Some of these analogies are slightly better than tenuous. Some of them are dead-on. All of them are at least a decent starting point to give you a frame of reference. 
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Post by: Barcelona on May 26, 2010, 10:05:00 pm
So my World Cup plans are almost finalized.

Then Barcelona for Spain vs Switzerland.


Havent visited the forum in a while so a bit lost. you mean you will be in Barcelona for the Spain Switzerland game? you wont find a crazy environment at all for this game. FC Barcelona is our religion, Spain, we have mixed feelings, you may actually find quite a lot of people who want Spain to lose even in this World Cup where probably 6 players of the starting 11 come from barcelona lower divisions. Skip Barcelona or the Basque country for the World Cup, watch it in Valencia or Sevilla.
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Post by: vansmack on May 27, 2010, 01:55:45 am
Thanks for the tip Barcelona.  We were heading to Madrid but need to be in Barcelona for the next leg of our trip.  Maybe we'll find another city to watch the match in before heading to Barcelona for our flight to Venice.
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Post by: vansmack on May 27, 2010, 11:25:24 am
At 3am this morning I had a revelation...

I hate Spain too!  Barcelona sounds perfect!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2010, 11:52:51 am
hahahah

i'm totally jealous for the record
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Post by: vansmack on May 27, 2010, 12:35:57 pm
i'm totally jealous for the record

We have an  odd number still and I'm the off-man-out so its not too late to join us.

The flight to London never came down ($1k) but everything else is getting cheaper by the day. Long live the Euro!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2010, 01:14:25 pm
can i bring the baby
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Post by: vansmack on May 28, 2010, 10:43:33 pm
can i bring the baby

I don't think I'm the correct person to ask.


MIIIILLLLLLLWWWWAAAAALLLLLL!!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2010, 06:35:57 pm
rafa out, surprised = no one

i am trying to wrap my head around how they're going to do better especially without torres, mascherano, gerrard ect
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Post by: vansmack on June 04, 2010, 10:26:27 am
rafa out, surprised = no one

Apparently these guys are surprised....

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/liverpool/30131/photos-liverpool-fans-burn-us-flag-in-protest-over-hicks-gillett-regime.html

Stay classy, Anfield.
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Post by: hutch on June 04, 2010, 10:32:51 am
what a bummer that drogba is out... rio ferdinand probably too

I have to say that playing "friendlies" before the start of WC is idiotic.. At least Maradona got that right.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 04, 2010, 10:34:05 am
what a bummer that drogba is out... rio ferdinand probably too

I have to say that playing "friendlies" before the start of WC is idiotic.. At least Maradona got that right.

Wrong thread.  This is for the leagues.  Sweetcell was getting confused so he started his own WC thread.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 04, 2010, 11:09:10 am
rafa out, surprised = no one

Apparently these guys are surprised....

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/liverpool/30131/photos-liverpool-fans-burn-us-flag-in-protest-over-hicks-gillett-regime.html

Stay classy, Anfield.
holy fucking hell

cant wait to bust those out on americans that root for liverpool
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Post by: vansmack on June 04, 2010, 11:16:46 am
holy fucking hell

cant wait to bust those out on americans that root for liverpool

No kidding.  I'm thinking of paying for Steven Cohen today.  My brother in law is looking to buy a Liverpool jersey just to take a picture of him taking a shit on it. 

I personally, think they should have burned a spanish flag as it was all of Rafa's crappy purchases that really cost them.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 04, 2010, 11:23:12 am
seriously. there's fan anger and there's pissing off an entire huge country.
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Post by: walkonby on June 07, 2010, 09:15:59 pm
i know that usually i only come in here for half naked guys parading around with their balls . . . but i did find it amusing that this:  http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/37491843/ns/sports-world_cup/   
appeared on the same day in the news when this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/06/AR2010060603321.html  did.
just one of the latter will cause the former to never occur.
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Post by: vansmack on July 06, 2010, 02:22:23 pm
I have made no secret about my man crush for Wesley Sneijder.  I would love to see him at OT. 

Please, please, please make this happen....

Wesley Sneijder is a 25 million transfer target for Manchester United (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=806278&sec=transfers&cc=5739)
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Post by: vansmack on July 07, 2010, 01:14:52 pm
does barcelona just have money to burn? not sure why they'd spend 30m+ on another small central midfielder...

Uh, I guess they don't....

Barcelona currently unable to pay wages (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=806751&sec=europe&cc=5901)
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Post by: vansmack on July 12, 2010, 02:44:03 pm
34 days until the Prem...

Is the biggest loser of the WC Torres or Liverpool?

Torres performance may put his move away from Anfield in doubt, and if he does move, surely it won't be for Chelsea's original 50 million offer.

Diego Forlan has to be the biggest winner.  And that hurts me to say.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on July 12, 2010, 02:54:00 pm
biggest loser has to be torres. liverpool would love to keep him, at least the flag burning fans would.

biggest winner has to be whoever was going to buy him. the kid has just a ton of miles on him

but seriously, forlan was great
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Post by: godsshoeshine on July 13, 2010, 10:59:14 am
another big winner in the summer (though it has nothing to do with the world cup): dan gosling
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/8268634.Gosling_agrees_to_Newcastle_United_transfer/
basically he'll make an extra 500k a year while injured because everton screwed up.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 13, 2010, 12:02:37 pm
another big winner in the summer (though it has nothing to do with the world cup): dan gosling
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/8268634.Gosling_agrees_to_Newcastle_United_transfer/
basically he'll make an extra 500k a year while injured because everton screwed up.

Yeah, but he has to play for Newcastle.  We'll call it a wash.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on July 13, 2010, 12:28:57 pm
nah its the newcastle with only a few cunts, versus the big bag of cunts newcastle from a few years back. it'll be better than riding the pine at goodison park
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Post by: vansmack on July 13, 2010, 06:43:21 pm
I can't tell you how angry this would have made me had it happened to a United player...

(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/0713/cescfabregas20100712barcashirt_275x155.jpg)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on July 14, 2010, 11:19:15 am
of course, anyone would be pissed.

then again its not like barca has the money to buy and pay cesc anyway
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Post by: vansmack on July 14, 2010, 02:00:00 pm
Looks like Henry was finally punished for his handball....

Red Bulls confirm capture of France star Henry (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=808676&sec=transfers&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 14, 2010, 02:14:57 pm
punished? get paid to be treated like a rock star in a city he loves while half playing? sounds like a dream to me
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Post by: vansmack on July 14, 2010, 03:45:19 pm
punished? get paid to be treated like a rock star in a city he loves while half playing? sounds like a dream to me

He's only 32, which is not too old to play in Europe, and I'm not sure he's a rock star away from the Meadowlands (or where ever they play now).  I doubt most New Yorkers will recognize him.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on July 14, 2010, 03:52:43 pm
they have their own arena. every hispanic person in new york will worship him. where could he realistically play?

if new yorkers not recognizing people is the measuring stick, fine youre right there. i mean samuel l. jackson rides the subway
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Post by: godsshoeshine on July 14, 2010, 04:04:09 pm
my german-supporting brother-in-law was aghast at my ballack-hate during vacation. it was pretty awesome
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 21, 2010, 03:49:59 pm
Man City Reveal They are Trying to Sign Donovan (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=809671&sec=transfers&cc=5901&ghg)

I would have to punch you if you purchased a jersey.
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Post by: vansmack on July 26, 2010, 07:20:09 pm
GrantWahl: Sir Alex Ferguson hopes to use Chicharito in Houston Wed. Confirms Chicharito will play 1 half w/Chivas & 1 half w/ManUtd in Mexico Friday.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 27, 2010, 04:58:56 pm
Man City Reveal They are Trying to Sign Donovan (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=809671&sec=transfers&cc=5901&ghg)

I would have to punch you if you purchased a jersey.
i have my team usa jersey, that's enough
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 05, 2010, 12:19:49 pm
signs it's early august: i'm nearly done with "how soccer explains the world", i just spent my lunch looking at vintage tops on ebay, and the toon have "nearly" signed 3 guys that will never play in black and white. oh and it's really hot outside
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Post by: vansmack on August 05, 2010, 01:29:15 pm
Haha. 

I read Fever Pitch again last month as I couldn't find my copy of Among the Thugs.

I send a morning email to my brother in law exchanging United rumors (of course this year we spend most of the time figuring out who qualifies as home grown and who's under 21 before January).

I have yet to hide WFD, ManU and others in Facebook as there's no fear of a midday spoiler.

Oh yeah, and it's pea soup fog outside my office.
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Post by: vansmack on August 06, 2010, 12:25:00 pm
Sir Alex says Cleverly is not going out on loan.  Sorry about that tease.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 08, 2010, 03:31:31 pm
i'd rather have a player the toon has a prayer of buying at some point in that spot, to be honest
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Post by: vansmack on August 09, 2010, 12:11:49 pm
i'd rather have a player the toon has a prayer of buying at some point in that spot, to be honest

Aren't we getting arrogant?  How quickly we forget that staying up should be this year's goal.

And that was the ugliest goal I've seen Chicharito score, but the kid's clearly got a gift.  And the crowd LOVES him.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 09, 2010, 12:28:00 pm
no, arrogance would be between a cleverly loan and an arfa loan with a buy option taking cleverly with a buy option. hughton has to get value period

martin oneill resigned. my guess is they're selling milner and he doesn't get to spend it all. sound familiar?
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Post by: vansmack on August 09, 2010, 01:19:21 pm
martin oneill resigned. my guess is they're selling milner and he doesn't get to spend it all. sound familiar?

Nicky Shorey is out too (West Brom).  That would have angered me as much as Milner.  Right on the doorstep too....
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 09, 2010, 01:49:20 pm
i like shorey, but marty sure didn't. at 29 it's not a huge loss

but milner is just the manager killer
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 09, 2010, 02:01:31 pm
i like shorey, but marty sure didn't. at 29 it's not a huge loss

but milner is just the manager killer

Maybe Ashley Young then?  I just don't think Milner's impending exit is enough (and it's been coming for a while so why now?).

Either way, they were so close to making that leap.  Sad.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 09, 2010, 02:48:56 pm
ok ashley young makes sense. plus the last two teams villa should sell to are city and spurs
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 11, 2010, 05:07:52 pm
Manchester United sign 7.4m Portuguese striker Bebe (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/11/manchester-united-sign-striker-bebe)

Don't know much about him, but if Quieroz likes him, I'm game.  He recommended Ronaldo, you know...

I laughed at this too:

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BFE60904B-C2A8-4E60-9B05-700DBBC29BBC%7D&section=playerProfile&teamid=&bioid=94383
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 12, 2010, 01:04:20 pm
sounds like a lot of money. pretty good story though

chelsea aren't really going to go all season with terry and alex in the middle, right?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: reggie on August 12, 2010, 01:26:42 pm
signs it's early august: i'm nearly done with "how soccer explains the world", i just spent my lunch looking at vintage tops on ebay, and the toon have "nearly" signed 3 guys that will never play in black and white. oh and it's really hot outside

I have that book, and it's kind of a mess. It should really just be called "10 essays on Soccer." It really has nothing to do with globalization, or that Thomas Friedman/Malcolm Gladwell genre, but it's kind of marketed to be a soccer response to those books. l give it a C. 
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 12, 2010, 01:42:02 pm
welcome to mid-august, where i'm not interested in discussing a book
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Post by: vansmack on August 12, 2010, 01:47:22 pm
chelsea aren't really going to go all season with terry and alex in the middle, right?

Sounds like my response to an email I just recieved from my Chelsea supporting friend:

"United's not really going to go the whole season with Vidic and Evans are they because Rio is done..."

I'll take half a Rio over a full Terry anyday after watching Chicharito blow right past him last week....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 12, 2010, 03:02:21 pm
first off i'm picking mufc to win the prem this year
 
second, i dont think the league is as strong as it was two years ago
 
but on terry (or as cohen calls him "the traitor") he hasnt been as good for a couple of years now. he's coasted on a great combination of reputation, tactics and supporting cast. but i cant see them playing 3 central midfielders every match again this year and alex is no carvalho
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 13, 2010, 01:21:34 pm
Holy hell what a kickoff weekend.

Spurs and City
Liverpool and Arsenal
Manchester United and Newcastle
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 13, 2010, 01:25:41 pm
my dvr is going to get a workout

decided to make a full table prediction over lunch today:
01 man u
02 chelsea
03 arsenal
04 shitty
05 everton
06 spurs
07 'pool
08 brum
09 fulham
10 villa
11 stoke
12 mackems
13 wolves
14 toon
15 blackburn
16 wigan
17 bolton
18 w. ham
19 wba
20 blackpool
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Post by: vansmack on August 13, 2010, 01:42:48 pm
Aight, I'll play along:

1. MUFC
2. Chelsea
3. Spurs
4. Arsenal (assuming they change Almunia)
5. City (if no Almuia deal, swap City and Arsenal)
6. Liverpool
7. Everton
8. Aston Villa (sad)
9. Fulham
10. Bolton
11. Stoke
12. Sunderland
13. Birmingham
14. West Ham
15. Blackburn
16. Toon
17. Wolves
18. Wigan
19. West Brom
20. Blackpool

I'll even add Forest, Cardiff and QPR all come up.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 13, 2010, 01:56:19 pm
should be interesting if spurs can keep the cl and league campaigns going at once
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 16, 2010, 12:00:22 pm
trying to decide what's worse: a) the inevitable thrashing the toon is going to take tonight b) the fact that i won't see it until 8 o'clock or c) that so much hd soccer makes almost not care
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 16, 2010, 01:35:22 pm
b) the fact that i won't see it until 8 o'clock or

Thanks for the heads up.

c) that so much hd soccer makes almost not care

F'off.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 16, 2010, 01:42:55 pm
i almost feel bad for enjoying it so much

the hd feed for the everton match didn't work for like 10 minutes so it wasn't perfect
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 19, 2010, 07:24:52 pm
"11.41 BST: Our man in the know, Harry Harris, reliably informs us that Cardiff are paying just 6,000 a week for Craig Bellamy's services, with Manchester City still stumping up the rest of his 90,000-a-week wages. "

When I read that, I thought to myself, if I had the money, I'd pay Bellamy 6,000 a week to sit on my couch just talk to me about the games.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 20, 2010, 09:02:17 am
i would wager it wouldn't be boring. nothing with bels ever is


if i ever start watching the french league, remind me not to support l'om
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 23, 2010, 11:13:11 am
best toon game in years
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 23, 2010, 01:10:27 pm
best toon game in years

nicely done
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 25, 2010, 01:08:02 pm
the less terrible taylor wants 60k a week? talk about a delusional geordie
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 01, 2010, 02:08:54 pm
I'm telling you, Sir Alex has had his eye on this for sometime and will reap domestic rewards:

Homegrown: Gibson, Giggs, Brown, Evans, Rio, Scholes, Neville, O'Shea, Carrick, Owen & Rooney.

Other: Amos, Fletcher, Kuszczak, Van der Sar, Hargreaves, Nani, Anderson, Park, Evra, Valencia, Berbatov, Chicharito & Vidic.

Plus under 21s Fabio, Rafael, De Laet, Obertan, Bebe, Smalling & Macheda
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 01, 2010, 03:24:17 pm
the rule makes no sense, but i think i've beaten that to death. at least it made me realize i share a birthday with andy carroll

for 5m i think hughton did great
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 01, 2010, 08:08:31 pm
To futher my point, neither Arsenal nor Chelsea can make the homegrown quotient without including thier under 21's.  There's a lot of veteran depth on United and even the under 21's are stronger than the other two.

Arsenal:

Homegrown: Nicklas Bendtner, Gael Clichy, Denilson, Johan Djourou, Cesc Fabregas, Vito Mannone, Alex Song (7)

Others: Manuel Almunia, Andrei Arshavin, Marouane Chamakh, Abou Diaby, Emmanuel Eboue, Lukasz Fabianski, Laurent Koscielny, Samir Nasri, Tomas Rosicky, Bacary Sagna, Robin van Persie, Thomas Vermaelen, Sebastien Squillaci.

(Arsenal can also use young players including: Theo Walcott, Jack Wilshere, Kieran Gibbs, Carlos Vela, Emmanuel Frimpong, Aaron Ramsey.)

NB: Arsenal have only 20 senior players over 21 and can make up their homegrown quota through youth players

Chelsea

Homegrown: Ross Turnbull, Ashley Cole, John Terry, Frank Lampard

Others: Petr Cech, Henrique Hilario, Branislav Ivanovic,  Jose Bosingwa, Paulo Ferreira, Yuri Zhirkov,  Alex, Michael Essien, Ramires, John Obi Mikel,  Yossi Benayoun, Florent Malouda, Salomon Kalou, Nicolas Anelka, Didier Drogba.

(Chelsea can also use young players including: Patrick van Aanholt, Jeffrey Bruma, Josh McEachran, Gael Kakuta, Daniel Sturridge, Fabio Borini.)

NB: Chelsea have only 19 senior players over 21 and can make up their homegrown quota through youth players
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 02, 2010, 10:10:51 am
man i really didnt want to get into it

but, i dont see your point at all. neither chelsea nor arsenal had to do anything when building their squads for the first half of the season differently. the only two teams that did were shitty and spurs. who cares if man u have more players that count against a bizarre rule versus arsenal or chelsea. arsenal has been going with the kids before this rule, and chelsea's youth movement is more an economic one than a hargreeves-doesnt-count-but-half-of-ireland-does rule one
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on September 03, 2010, 02:00:39 pm
phew! that was close

(http://www.irishtimes.com/homepage/images/1224278184560.jpg?ts=1283536115)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 17, 2010, 11:39:18 am
if you ever want a good laugh, click on the comments section of any soccernet article regarding liverpool. so funny

good thing hicks and gillette didnt put up their own money, because they somehow dont have control of the club
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 17, 2010, 05:29:26 pm
the rule makes no sense, but i think i've beaten that to death. at least it made me realize i share a birthday with andy carroll

for 5m i think hughton did great

If you watched any of the world cup and saw how shyte England were, and the lack of depth they have, the rule makes a lot of sense. The English kids aren't getting a chance to reach the highest level because most top teams don't have the patience or interest to develop players so just buy them from the continent.

Man Utd being the exception, we have a second generation of "Giggs, Nevilles(s), Scholes, Butt, Beckham" coming through in Gibson, Evans(both of them), Cleverly, Smalling. Sure, we may have a couple of relatively dry seasons as far as trophies go, but in a couple of years..WATCH OUT! (I include the Irish lads simply because there's always been a special connection between Man Utd and Irish players)

This rule is basically for the benefit of the national team so as an Englishman totally agree with it. It also helps our neighbours across the Irish sea, because lets face it....the Eircom league isn't going to produce the next Keano.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 18, 2010, 06:41:08 am
the rule makes no sense, but i think i've beaten that to death. at least it made me realize i share a birthday with andy carroll

for 5m i think hughton did great

If you watched any of the world cup and saw how shyte England were, and the lack of depth they have, the rule makes a lot of sense. The English kids aren't getting a chance to reach the highest level because most top teams don't have the patience or interest to develop players so just buy them from the continent.

Man Utd being the exception, we have a second generation of "Giggs, Nevilles(s), Scholes, Butt, Beckham" coming through in Gibson, Evans(both of them), Cleverly, Smalling. Sure, we may have a couple of relatively dry seasons as far as trophies go, but in a couple of years..WATCH OUT! (I include the Irish lads simply because there's always been a special connection between Man Utd and Irish players)

This rule is basically for the benefit of the national team so as an Englishman totally agree with it. It also helps our neighbours across the Irish sea, because lets face it....the Eircom league isn't going to produce the next Keano.
the rule doesnt make sense because it has less to do with being english and more to do with training with english clubs. leaving adam johnson, ashley cole, theo walcott, ect at home hurt you guys more than the greatest league on the planet. i mean charles insomnia counts as homegrown. only one team changed anything the first season because of that rule, and that only effected a welshman

full credit to sir alex and manchester united, though. he'll figure out a way to win no matter what the rule is
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 21, 2010, 03:27:44 pm
I think the last time I posted on here was the last time United beat the merseyside pikeys! Should I take that as an omen?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 23, 2010, 07:51:24 am
i suppose i cant make fun of the league cup for the next month or so. what a match
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 05, 2010, 11:35:02 am
oh nigel de jong

you might remember him from such "rash challenges" as "breaking stuart holden's leg in a friendly" and "karate kicking xabi alonso's chest in front of the entire world"

he's back and starring in "how to ruin newcastle united's season"

i was going to say that i'll never root for the dutch as long as they continue to pick him, but hey he's already dropped. good for van marwijk
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 05, 2010, 11:51:41 am
He's having a helluva year, eh?

I finally saw the tackle.  How that wasn't even a foul, let alone a card is beyond me...

Sorry man.  Maybe Valencia and Ben Afra can rehab together?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 05, 2010, 12:02:23 pm
i just thank god that carroll didnt start

certainly didnt help that atkinson didnt call either of those penalty shouts the toon's way
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 06, 2010, 11:01:42 am
Now, I have less than zero interest in this game you call baseball, but I have always HATED with a passion the NY Wankees for some strange reason. With that in mind I was always a default Red Sox fan if ever pushed to pick a team. Now the fuckers are buying pikeypool so I have an awful dilema of who do I hate the most.

a, WANKEES?

b, DEAD SOX?

c, BOTH EQUALLY?

Why is life so complicated?



Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 06, 2010, 11:10:28 am
if it makes you feel any better the red sox have pretty much turned into the diet yankees anyway

so liverpool has a new american owner that doesnt know anything about english football and only cares about making money. stop me if you've heard this one before...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 06, 2010, 01:25:47 pm
So I'm drinking at my local soccer bar last night and the scouser fans are all excited about their new bids and how some rich Asian is going to buy the team and dump billions into the team to restore glory.

So I tell them, "Hey, one of the bids is from another American - the owner of the Red Sox.  He doesn't know shit about football."

You could have dropped a feather in that place and you would have heard it hit the ground for the split second while they contemplated that.  Then all hell broke loose and I'm pretty sure if they had an American flag they would have burnt it.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Mobius on October 06, 2010, 01:46:00 pm
Now can they find the football larry lucchinos and theo epsteins? Can they translate pseudo-moneyball to the premier league?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 06, 2010, 01:53:52 pm
Then all hell broke loose and I'm pretty sure if they had an American flag they would have burnt it.
i almost wish i watched baseball so i could call sawx fans flag burners. this is going to be high comedy
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 07, 2010, 09:01:23 am
Other than Lerner at Villa, except the O'Neill walking out fiasco....what yank meddling with a premiership team has made a positiver impact on it?

It's not a challenge, simply a question.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 07, 2010, 10:06:39 am
forget nationality for a second, ownership motivation is the one aspect that will sink a club faster than anything. if the ownership is trying to make a profit, they have no business being in the business. i could be wrong, but i dont believe that henry has any ties to merseyside or knows anything about the prem. at least hicks owned corinthians

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on October 07, 2010, 04:44:42 pm
if the ownership is trying to make a profit, they have no business being in the business.

what dictatorship/communist country do you hail from?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 07, 2010, 06:20:24 pm
We can really make this assessment after two to three years?

I can assure you the list of bunk English owners is much longer than the list of American owners and I'd put the Chelski / Sheik City damage up against the American owned squads any time you'd like....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 08, 2010, 08:11:04 am
yeah portsmouth, west ham, leeds, and hell newcastle have not been owned by americans. i always thought it was interesting that the english media and fans seem to be focused on the transfer fees and totally ignore the wages. huge wages are what crippled the toon

if the ownership is trying to make a profit, they have no business being in the business.

what dictatorship/communist country do you hail from?
one that has no room for millionaires. you need a billion or go home. i guess thats china?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 08, 2010, 09:02:52 am
if the ownership is trying to make a profit, they have no business being in the business.

what dictatorship/communist country do you hail from?

AMERICA silly - where have you been for the last 21 months?

At least the Brits who are bringing their teams to their knees are actually AT THE F***ING GAMES! That's imcompetence, not meddling in something they have zero interest in.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 13, 2010, 09:58:37 am
BUMMER! I was hoping for a 9 point deduction for pikeypool...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 13, 2010, 10:32:55 am
well administration might have got them ownership that has a clue, so look on the brightside
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 13, 2010, 12:41:24 pm
BUMMER! I was hoping for a 9 point deduction for pikeypool...

It's not going to matter with that squad.  They won't be in Europe next season.

On to brighter news, Hargreaves is supposed to play this weekend!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 13, 2010, 01:45:06 pm
On to brighter news, Hargreaves is supposed to play this weekend!

My favorite joke I've heard so far about this:

"Great, he's playing this weekend.  But when will he play next?"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 15, 2010, 08:50:40 am
man fsc, delaying the toon match until 8:30 pm hurts my weekend sports watching plans
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 20, 2010, 08:47:47 am
Ince-Stam-Beckham-RVN-Tevez-Rooney...how many more will it take before they realize NO single player is bigger than Manchester United, and if you start a pissing contest with SAF, you're only going to get pissed on.

The way he's played recently we'll be lucky to get a bag of fish n chips and 4 pack of Boddingtons for him.

Rumour has it he's already agreed a deal with City. Disney Corp. have financed the deal because they are looking forward to a reunion of Shrek and Donkey.

As long as United qualify for next years Champs League this season I'll be happy, we are going through yet another transition.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 20, 2010, 10:34:44 am
Ince-Stam-Beckham-RVN-Tevez-Rooney...how many more will it take before they realize NO single player is bigger than Manchester United, and if you start a pissing contest with SAF, you're only going to get pissed on.

The way he's played recently we'll be lucky to get a bag of fish n chips and 4 pack of Boddingtons for him.

Rumour has it he's already agreed a deal with City. Disney Corp. have financed the deal because they are looking forward to a reunion of Shrek and Donkey.

As long as United qualify for next years Champs League this season I'll be happy, we are going through yet another transition.

JUst plain silly.. the lengths ManU supporters will go to defend anything Ferguson even without knowing any of the details...

Also, the lack of respect for great Man U players is astounding..  I mean yes Rooney may be leaving but he gave you some pleasure over the years!

With Man U the minute they leave its like they are the enemy or something..its really classless..


Also, did you ever think that maybe the issue isn't Rooney or Tevez or whoever but Ferguson?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 20, 2010, 10:44:08 am
really? i have one favorite club and everyone else is indeed the enemy

forget tevez, we've long established that the issue with him was his agent

why would anyone take a petulant frequenter of bad hookers over the best manager on earth? that defies logic. and like i said, man u is the enemy
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 20, 2010, 11:07:29 am
City is denying any contact.

But really.. where is the loyalty to Rooney? Man U treats its players worse than any team I've seen....

I'm not advocating the other extreme unfortunately exemplified by my team Boca Juniors...give an over the hill injured troublemaking player a five year contract (Riquelme) but

I have to say I don't even understand what the issue is... Rooney wanted Ferguson to defend him? Or Rooney feels Ferguson lied about his being injured?

One thing is for sure: Rooney's form has been really poor for months now...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 20, 2010, 11:19:35 am
Really lads? Were in my comments did I slag off any of the players in question? On the contrary, I'd say Old Trafford is probably THE MOST welcoming supporters of ex-players, with maybe Tevez being the exception, because he tried to hang out dirty laundry that never existed in the first place. Man Utd refused to be held to ransome by his agent.

If you have a bust up with your boss at work...who ends up out of a job if it gets that bad? Why would a sports team be any different?

I'm just saying go if you want to go Rooney. If you don't want to wear the red devil, along with the history and glory that goes with it, then give it back so we can put someone else's name on the back. Players of Rooney's talent are just like busses, there's always another one coming around the corner. Nobody is indespensible but some (Ronaldo) think they are. You may disagree but I'd say we haven't missed Ronaldo one iota since we cashed him in for $133m+. If Man U meet RM I can guarantee you he will get a standing ovation at OT. What about Alan Smith? He's still an OT hero.

Come on lads, hate UTD all you want but don't make shit up or put words in my mouth.

*edit* I don't think it's a done deal yet, and I want him to stay and become a United legend alongside Edwards, Charlton, Best, Cantona, Keane, Scholes, Giggs etc. etc. but if he does leave I hope he does it with class so we can give him a standing ovation when he visits as an opponent.

SOOOOOOOO - who should we spend the money on?  ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 20, 2010, 11:31:25 am
Ince-Stam-Beckham-RVN-Tevez-Rooney

SAF did admit that letting Stam go was a mistake, but the rest have proven to be the right move.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 20, 2010, 11:35:48 am
Really lads? Were in my comments did I slag off any of the players in question? On the contrary, I'd say Old Trafford is probably THE MOST welcoming supporters of ex-players, with maybe Tevez being the exception, because he tried to hang out dirty laundry that never existed in the first place. Man Utd refused to be held to ransome by his agent.

If you have a bust up with your boss at work...who ends up out of a job if it gets that bad? Why would a sports team be any different?

I'm just saying go if you want to go Rooney. If you don't want to wear the red devil, along with the history and glory that goes with it, then give it back so we can put someone else's name on the back. Players of Rooney's talent are just like busses, there's always another one coming around the corner. Nobody is indespensible but some (Ronaldo) think they are. You may disagree but I'd say we haven't missed Ronaldo one iota since we cashed him in for $133m+. If Man U meet RM I can guarantee you he will get a standing ovation at OT. What about Alan Smith? He's still an OT hero.

Come on lads, hate UTD all you want but don't make shit up or put words in my mouth.

*edit* I don't think it's a done deal yet, and I want him to stay and become a United legend alongside Edwards, Charlton, Best, Cantona, Keane, Scholes, Giggs etc. etc. but if he does leave I hope he does it with class so we can give him a standing ovation when he visits as an opponent.

SOOOOOOOO - who should we spend the money on?  ;D
sorry if i phrased it poorly, but i was agreeing with you

i mean rooney wants out. how is saying go if you want to go anything but logical?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 20, 2010, 12:03:51 pm
Ince-Stam-Beckham-RVN-Tevez-Rooney

SAF did admit that letting Stam go was a mistake, but the rest have proven to be the right move.

I'd say the Beckham move was a bit premature too. RVN was never the same without Becks putting the ball on his toe week in week out.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 20, 2010, 05:59:01 pm
Rooney talked today and basically he's saying the team is a loser and he wants to win..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 21, 2010, 08:19:26 am
yeah because he hasnt won anything at man u  ::)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 21, 2010, 05:23:43 pm
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1434/5103369820_2c6ba8ee4d_m.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 22, 2010, 09:14:01 am
well how about that? Rooney resigned with ManU...

Maybe it was simply about the benjamins
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 22, 2010, 10:48:12 am
Didn't I say it's not over yet?

I think Colleen doesn't want to live in Spain...because seriously, were else do you go after United? Just ask Becks and Ronaldo? Seems MLS is the chosen league of choice for Europe's top stars...whodathunkit eh?

BTW - for those who accuse UTD of being a 'buying team' just check this out and tell me the future doesn't look bright at OT??


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/9117997.stm

Oh- shoeshine...it's nice to have Toon back in the top flight.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 22, 2010, 02:21:09 pm
So last night I go to sleep after reading the Guardian about two fans in red hoodies making death threats outside Rooney's house.

And this morning I learn that he's signed a new contract allegedly under the assurances that United will spend money in January.

Win-win-win. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 22, 2010, 04:18:10 pm
Not sure I'd threaten Rooney with anything...but that's just me. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 22, 2010, 06:49:06 pm
Not sure I'd threaten Rooney with anything...but that's just me. 

(http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/190000/images/_192971_eric_cantona_kung_fu_kick300.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 23, 2010, 05:34:05 pm
they should burn carroll range rover in nolan's driveway every week
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 26, 2010, 08:46:16 am
Am I the only one who suspects the whole Rooney saga is far from over?

Methinks;

This 5 year contract is just a ploy for Fergie to increase Rooneys value dramatically in the transfer market for when he dumps him during the summer. I can't help but think Rooney won't get away with jerking SAF about like he has. Nobody ever has and nobody ever will.

I may be wrong but it would not surprise me....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 26, 2010, 12:11:01 pm
Am I the only one who suspects the whole Rooney saga is far from over?

Methinks;

This 5 year contract is just a ploy for Fergie to increase Rooneys value dramatically in the transfer market for when he dumps him during the summer. I can't help but think Rooney won't get away with jerking SAF about like he has. Nobody ever has and nobody ever will.

I may be wrong but it would not surprise me....

I'm not convinced either.  Ronaldo signed a 4-year deal and was sold a year into it for greater value....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 26, 2010, 12:50:16 pm
no, youre not the only one that doesnt think its over

at the very least i'd think saf said something along the lines of "go to spain or sign a new deal"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 26, 2010, 05:39:41 pm
You'll never guess what I named my new Chihuahua?

Damn, I love this kid.  And my dog.

(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2010/1026/javierhernandezcelebvwolves_412x232.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 26, 2010, 07:31:31 pm
i'd rather hear about lil pea than he-who-will-not-be-named any day
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 01, 2010, 08:27:49 am
best. derby. ever.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 01, 2010, 10:35:51 am
best. derby. ever.

Not if you're a mackam....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 01, 2010, 10:43:31 am
further proof that it was the best derby ever  ;)

i mean not only did the toon score 5 but titus bumble saw red...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 01, 2010, 12:19:50 pm
further proof that it was the best derby ever  ;)

i mean not only did the toon score 5 but titus bumble saw red...

Yeah, I wasn't sure where you were at all day (or when you were watching it) so I didn't send you a congratualtions text, but I figured you were on cloud 9.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 01, 2010, 12:25:34 pm
yeah, the derby was appointment television. my daughter was giggling at me singing "we all live in kevin nolan's house" all morning
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 01, 2010, 01:05:28 pm
Soooooooooooooooo.....'the goal' What are you thoughts?   :-\   All I have to say on the matter is that when I ref the U10 leagues I always remind the kids to "play the whistle" Gomez needs to learn this rule.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1325377/Graham-Poll-Blame-Heurelho-Gomes-Mark-Clattenburg-Nani-goal.html

Sums it up pretty well.

As for 'Arry Rednapping. I like the bloke but he made a fool of himself when he made the remark. "Well, it's an automatic yellow for a deliberate handball, eveyone knows that"  REALLY ARRY? What a load of bollocks. The only reference to cards/handballs in the rule book is .... 'if a deliberate handball prevents a clear goal scoring opportunity in the penalty area it's a red card offense.'

Spurs were down 1-0 Gomez had the ball in his possesion so the ref did not make the call because that would've slowed the game down and been a disadvantage to Spurs. The 'dumb as a pile of rocks' goalie drops the ball a good 8-10 yards from the handball anyway, the ref yells at him the ball is in play, Nani comes back to the ball and has time to look at the ref for confirmation and slots the ball home. All this while the goalie stands by and looks on. He had plenty of time to get back to the ball and kick it out of bounds. (picking it up would've been an indirect free kick to UTD in the area)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 01, 2010, 01:15:24 pm
yeah, you could see on tv the ref kind of looking at gomes like he was crazy. total goal, i told smackie the same off-board as i was watching live
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 01, 2010, 01:25:06 pm
Agreed on all accounts.

More importantly was how good Park looked (though he still can't finish) and how right-back DeSilva shut down Bale.  Very encouraging as UTD still struggle to deal with the Valencia injury.

Once Ver der Vaart came off, I felt Spurs had no real threat.
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Post by: vansmack on November 01, 2010, 01:29:16 pm
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1434/5103369820_2c6ba8ee4d_m.jpg)

Sir Alex Ferguson has revealed that Wayne Rooney's shock contract U-turn came about as a result of the animosity shown towards him by Manchester United fans.

The England striker looked set to depart United after questioning the club's trophy-winning potential - with Manchester City the most likely destination - but, just two days after confirming his intention to leave, he signed a new long-term contract at Old Trafford.

While cynics have suggested that Rooney's desire to leave was no more than a ploy to increase his wages, Ferguson believes that the 24-year-old changed his mind because of the ire aimed in his direction by the United faithful.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=838036&sec=england&cc=5901
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 02, 2010, 10:13:33 am
How awkward do they look on the photo in the article?  Talk about faking it!!!!! This saga is far from over if you ask me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 03, 2010, 11:39:10 am
Is it me or has Berbatov slipped back into 'I'd rather be having a root canal than playing this stupid game' mode?

Smalling is the real deal or what though? And I don't know how we'll do after the ginger prince retires from playing. There's no replacing that bloke...
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 04, 2010, 04:39:50 pm
THREE IN A ROW!! Has my prediction of a complete implosion at middle-eastlands come sooner than anticipated?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/9154974.stm

And why is nobody else on here....I'm sick of talking to myself. The echo is giving me a headache too...too....too..too..to...t
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Post by: lagas on November 04, 2010, 05:21:37 pm
in other news, bielsa is on his way out of chile...great, just great...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/04/marcelo-bielsa-chile
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Post by: vansmack on November 04, 2010, 07:11:45 pm
And why is nobody else on here....I'm sick of talking to myself. The echo is giving me a headache too...too....too..too..to...t

Listen pal, you went on MIA on me for months...if you think I'm just going to forget that because you've come back to me, well think again.

Anyhow....Tevez in Argie, huge suprise?  Not a chance.  There is trouble a foot...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 05, 2010, 08:38:25 am
haha there was half a season of just me and smackie going back and forth

i agree, the wheels are coming of mancini's city. big chance for spurs to get the back to back cl spots, which is huge in my opinion

is capello really going to call up a 28 year-old championship striker? i hope that's with carroll and not instead of
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 05, 2010, 09:26:24 am
in other news, bielsa is on his way out of chile...great, just great...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/04/marcelo-bielsa-chile

I bet he's looking at property in Manchester......
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 05, 2010, 09:28:07 am
haha there was half a season of just me and smackie going back and forth

i agree, the wheels are coming of mancini's city. big chance for spurs to get the back to back cl spots, which is huge in my opinion

is capello really going to call up a 28 year-old championship striker? i hope that's with carroll and not instead of

One thing I like about Capello is he looks further afield than the usual supsects when selecting his squad.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 05, 2010, 09:48:29 am
except at the world cup that is
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Post by: hutch on November 05, 2010, 11:57:25 am
You know thats a good point about Bielsa.. He would be perfect for the Premier League..

I had not thought of that...

I do think his approach in the game against Brazil in this past WC was very naive.
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Post by: vansmack on November 05, 2010, 12:34:46 pm
Gareth Bale is like a pair of leather pants.

Great for scoring in Europe, but useless at home.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 05, 2010, 01:08:37 pm
oh man

i am crying in my office
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Post by: vansmack on November 05, 2010, 07:46:14 pm
You'd think the smart money is on Gooch, but Zlatan is actually a black belt. Good fight.

Oguchi Onyewu gets in practice scuffle

ROME -- AC Milan teammates Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Oguchi Onyewu brawled during a training match Friday.

Team vice president Adriano Galliani, speaking with SkySport24 TV, described the fight as "very lively" but said both players have resolved their differences. He didn't say what sparked the brawl.

Italy's Gazzetta dello Sport newspaper, however, reported things got heated after Onweyu reacted to a reckless tackle from Ibrahimovic by choking the Milan forward. The U.S. defender and the Swedish forward then came to blows during the scrimmage and had to be separated by teammates and Milan staff, according to the Italian news agency ANSA.

Onyewu missed most of Milan's 2009-10 season due to a serious knee injury, making just one appearance before rupturing the patellar tendon in his left knee during a World Cup qualifier when playing for the United States against Costa Rica.

His contract had two years left to run, but fit-again Onyewu requested a further year and told the club he would play for free.

AC Milan was training at its Milanello field ahead of Sunday's away match with Bari.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 07, 2010, 03:56:11 pm
i wonder how many coked up sluts andy is going to bang at kevin nolan's house after this one. i bet at least 3
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Post by: vansmack on November 07, 2010, 05:16:46 pm
i wonder how many coked up sluts andy is going to bang at kevin nolan's house after this one. i bet at least 3

I wish I were there....
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 08, 2010, 01:18:39 pm
kevin nolan is a hell of a wingman is all i gotta say

the midtable really gave you guys some help this weekend
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Post by: vansmack on November 08, 2010, 02:25:21 pm
the midtable really gave you guys some help this weekend

Glorious weekend for the lads.

And to have Tevez say he's quitting City - icing on the cake...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 08, 2010, 05:37:44 pm
Carroll getting called up for England duty - good for your squad or bad for your squad?

Another thought I had this weekend was how Spurs are doing a fine job of demonstrating how hard it is to play in Europe.  It's amazing how that is so easily overlooked...
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Post by: vansmack on November 08, 2010, 05:45:05 pm
I bet he's looking at property in Manchester......

Because these guys need a coach?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHukGUnko2E

I really do want your thoughts on FC United of Manchester.  I was rather entetained.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2010, 11:37:01 am
Carroll getting called up for England duty - good for your squad or bad for your squad?

Another thought I had this weekend was how Spurs are doing a fine job of demonstrating how hard it is to play in Europe.  It's amazing how that is so easily overlooked...
risky sure, but i think he was going to go play for scotland if he wasnt called up soon anyway. ultimately a good thing because he seems to respond well under added pressure. plus i'd have a rooting interest in euro 2012. and jeez does capello really have a choice at this point? besides davies and bothroyd that is

i thought spurs would go out in the group stages, but sounds like the leather pants theory is holding true instead
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 09, 2010, 01:44:07 pm
Carroll slaps his own bird about a bit - Terry shags your bird!!!

You decide!

BTW, after Pikeypool v Chelski on Sunday I have come to the conclusion Terry is above the law when it comes to Premiership officials. That thug is a fucking disgrace and if he was Dale Hunter he'd be given a 20 game suspension.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2010, 02:29:39 pm
rio likes coke, carroll bangs chicks that like coke

rooney visits the whore house, carroll lives in kevin nolan's house

anyway, it seems to me that terry is getting found out a bit about how much of a ass he really is on the pitch. he doesnt quite have that aura about him any longer
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Post by: vansmack on November 09, 2010, 04:53:38 pm
the leather pants theory

I'm glad you're buying into that joke.

My favorite one from this week (so far):

How did the Steelers get three straight night games?

Rothlisberger.  Sex sellls.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 10, 2010, 09:07:07 am
they finally figured out what that rocket off the coast of california was.

bebe was practicing his crosses
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 10, 2010, 10:44:22 am
I bet he's looking at property in Manchester......

Because these guys need a coach?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHukGUnko2E

I really do want your thoughts on FC United of Manchester.  I was rather entetained.

Some in Manc just got a new puppy, it's all cute and cuddly, and gets loads of attention right now, but after a while they'll get sick of it and it will be left out to fend for itself.......

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Post by: vansmack on November 10, 2010, 01:43:31 pm
they finally figured out what that rocket off the coast of california was.

bebe was practicing his crosses

Haha.  Nice. Fair point considering how GAWD AWFUL he was against Wolves.  I think he'll be back in the middle for a while after that performance - I've never seen anything so bad..
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Post by: vansmack on November 10, 2010, 01:44:35 pm
Some in Manc just got a new puppy, it's all cute and cuddly, and gets loads of attention right now, but after a while they'll get sick of it and it will be left out to fend for itself.......

It's good to have you back, Manc.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 10, 2010, 02:01:00 pm
they finally figured out what that rocket off the coast of california was.

bebe was practicing his crosses

Haha.  Nice. Fair point considering how GAWD AWFUL he was against Wolves.  I think he'll be back in the middle for a while after that performance - I've never seen anything so bad..
totally stolen from twitter. i do have a feeling that he'll be a good player eventually though

i just want someone in england to sign HULK from porto. what a name
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 10, 2010, 05:41:56 pm
I'm following the game on manutd.com matchtracker and just spit my coffee all over my keyboard courtesy of the following comment regarding Evra coming off.

"He's taken his gloves off, it must be serious"


 ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 10, 2010, 05:58:41 pm
I'm following the game on manutd.com matchtracker and just spit my coffee all over my keyboard courtesy of the following comment regarding Evra coming off.

"He's taken his gloves off, it must be serious"

You didn't watch it on ESPN3.com?

The midfield were great today.  But yes, two defenders went down...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 11, 2010, 09:25:33 am
does espn3 still demand your isp login or something weird?

i listened to the toon match on the radio at work. sounded like we were better apart from two terrible mistakes. no clue why newcastle can be so good on the road and so shocking at st james park
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 11, 2010, 10:54:12 am
Will the real Joey Barton please stand up???


OH THERE YOU ARE!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/9178056.stm
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 11, 2010, 10:57:48 am
he should get a ban sure

but pederson sure made a lot of it
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 16, 2010, 10:37:54 am
HA HA HA!!! Couldn't happen to a more deserving scumbag. (well, maybe Gerrard, but it's a close call)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/9193773.stm
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 19, 2010, 03:07:05 pm
man, youre on a roll
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9206129.stm
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 19, 2010, 03:18:24 pm
does espn3 still demand your isp login or something weird?

ESPN3 just checks to see who your ISP is via IP address and if your ISP is a participating ISP, then your good.  A list of providers can be found here (http://espn.go.com/espn3/affList).

IF you have access at home, but not at work, then you can login via remote access from the ESPN3 site and sync you ESPN account with you home ISP and you'll be granted access (assuming your work doesn't block it).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on November 22, 2010, 04:06:02 pm
freddy adu's career just gets worse and worse..

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-randers-adu

is there a controversy about when he was born? wikipedia now says 89 or 86
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 23, 2010, 10:01:14 am
hmmmmmm - Back when he first hit the scene with DC United I seem to recall a certain mancunian make a remark on the lines "naw, this kid is nothing" Does anyone remember who that may have been?

 ;)
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Post by: vansmack on November 23, 2010, 10:37:04 am
hmmmmmm - Back when he first hit the scene with DC United I seem to recall a certain mancunian make a remark on the lines "naw, this kid is nothing" Does anyone remember who that may have been?

Yes, I remember you saying that and saying that to me.  I also remember disagreeing with you.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 23, 2010, 11:16:23 am
adu is only 21 to be fair. i wouldnt close the book yet
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 23, 2010, 11:19:13 am
hmmmmmm - Back when he first hit the scene with DC United I seem to recall a certain mancunian make a remark on the lines "naw, this kid is nothing" Does anyone remember who that may have been?

Yes, I remember you saying that and saying that to me.  I also remember disagreeing with you.

In fairness to Adu, I think MLS tried to make him the poster child for the new and improved MLS when he just wasn't good enough.

On a similar subject, were do you think the MLS is compared to England today. A good few years ago I put them at around Division 2 but now I'd put it at a level of bottom half of the Championship and top half of division 1.....thoughts?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 23, 2010, 11:33:07 am
as far as skill and such i think that's about right

but its not the same kind of grinding pressure on players. no relegation, half the teams get a crack at the championship, ect. travel and weather are rougher i suppose
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 29, 2010, 10:00:35 am
hey smackie/mankie

youre welcome
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 29, 2010, 11:26:30 am
 ;D (Ta!)

Okay, will the last person to leave the EPL this season please turn the lights off and lock the door...the season is all but over. The normal order of things has been restored.
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Post by: vansmack on November 29, 2010, 01:44:20 pm
hey smackie/mankie

youre welcome

I was going to text you a thank you yesterday, but it wasn't clear if you had seen the match or not yet.

And as much as Berbatov is getting the praise, Rooney was unbelievable off the ball on Saturday.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 29, 2010, 02:07:36 pm
nice. i did get to watch live as i refuse to travel on thanksgiving sunday. my daughter has belly laughs when i celebrate goals
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Post by: brennser on November 29, 2010, 02:34:47 pm
fascinating season - we are top yet most people would concur we have been pretty shite - Blackburn were abject on Sat but it was really nice to have one of those games where the goals were rolling in

Chelsea falling to pieces, Arsenal all over the place, City imploding....it could be a lot lot worse  ;D
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 29, 2010, 03:00:04 pm
it has been crazy, hasnt it?

chelsea really did not look up for it. granted we were at home but without colo, williamson, barton, nolan and ben arfa. just after getting played off the pitch at bolton too

unreal how much of a difference tiote  makes
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 29, 2010, 05:28:00 pm
Is anybody recording Barc/RM? Can I talk about the game?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 29, 2010, 05:29:10 pm
i'm not

i wouldnt check this thread if i was
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 29, 2010, 05:31:25 pm
Is it just me who is getting some satisfaction from "the special one" and his team getting a good old fashioned arse kicking?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on November 29, 2010, 05:54:42 pm
Is it just me who is getting some satisfaction from "the special one" and his team getting a good old fashioned arse kicking?

actually i think it was delightful...what a performance by Bara
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 29, 2010, 05:56:07 pm
A clinical demolition.  It looked like practice out there for Barca.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 29, 2010, 05:56:53 pm
I wonder what spin Morono will try to put on this result?
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Post by: sweetcell on November 29, 2010, 06:04:23 pm
thanks for the heads-up, i caught the last 20 mins on espn3. 

learn to lose, ya bunch a' over-paid cry-babies.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 01, 2010, 10:06:01 am
OOPS!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on December 02, 2010, 09:39:19 am
happy world cup d day everyone

cmon you anyonebutqatars
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 02, 2010, 11:46:34 am
Will FIFA never learn? After the disaster that was South Africa (Travel expenses to actually get there for those from the strongest footballing continent...empty seats, rounding  up people from shanty towns to fill seats) they award 2018 to another footballing mecca..RUSSIA??? REALLY?

What's next 2022 to the USA???

The finalists should've been England v Portugal/Spain with Portugal/Spain probably the better choice.
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Post by: hutch on December 02, 2010, 11:47:29 am
crooks
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 02, 2010, 11:47:35 am
Will FIFA never learn? After the disaster that was South Africa (Travel expenses to actually get there for those from the strongest footballing continent...empty seats, rounding  up people from shanty towns to fill seats) they award 2018 to another footballing mecca..RUSSIA??? REALLY?

What's next 2022 to the USA??? If you don't actually call football football you should automatically be disqualified.

The finalists should've been England v Portugal/Spain with Portugal/Spain probably the better choice.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 02, 2010, 11:51:12 am
Oh gets even fucking better.... 2022 QUATAR?????

There HAS to be some serious bribery going on for both those choices.

FIFA can kiss my arse. Europe should break away and become a seperate entity. FIFA is irrelevant.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 02, 2010, 11:52:39 am
Oh gets even fucking better.... 2022 QUATAR?????

There HAS to be some serious bribery going on for both those choices.

FIFA can kiss my arse. Europe should break away and become a seperate entity. FIFA is irrelevant.

agree..this is a FUCKING JOKe and it ain't even funny.. Qatar??? I mean give me a break

they have basically awarded the next two cups to the two most corrupt countries! could it be any clearer?

I could maybe maybe see Russia but Qatar is beyond insane.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 02, 2010, 11:54:17 am
I am just sick of FIFA...

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Post by: godsshoeshine on December 02, 2010, 11:56:17 am
terrible. absolutely terrible
What's next 2022 to the USA???
heaven forbid they revisit the site of the most successful world cup ever
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on December 02, 2010, 11:56:39 am
What's next 2022 to the USA???

better yet - quatar!

(sorry, shoeshine)

i guess FIFA is on a new tip since south africa - spreading the sport to new locations, reaching new markets, etc.  no point anymore in giving the tournament to england, spain, etc - market is saturated there.  no growth potential.  they're going to consume the world cup no matter where it happens, so might as well get some new people onboard...

that, and make some bribe money on the side.  i hope some scandals come out of these decisions.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 02, 2010, 12:01:17 pm
terrible. absolutely terrible
What's next 2022 to the USA???
heaven forbid they revisit the site of the most successful world cup ever

Selling the most ads doesn't make it the most successful in the sports tradition. The coverage was pathetic, the commentators fucking idiots and the general public of the host nation no fucking interest whatsoever...not unlike South Africa, Russia in 18 and Qatar in 22. But being American I suppose you do associate $$$$$$ and only $$$$$$$ with success. (no offense intended, just an honest opinion)

Why is the next one in Brasil if they want to penetrate new markets? Talk about a saturated market, that whole fucking continent only plays one sport.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 02, 2010, 12:56:50 pm
who said anything about money. i was referring to the attendance. how else would you measure success?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 02, 2010, 01:00:27 pm
I finally get to fulfill my dream and stone a woman.

Thank you FIFA.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 02, 2010, 01:02:54 pm
The coverage was pathetic, the commentators fucking idiots and the general public of the host nation no fucking interest whatsoever...

That doesn't change with any World Cup (save for general public interest).  The US coverage is still crap and the commentators are still fucking idiots.  But that was only the American Coverage - every other nation has their own coverage regardless of where the Cup is held.
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Post by: vansmack on December 02, 2010, 01:04:40 pm
BTW - no alcohol for foreigners in Qatar.  That'll keep the English out.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 02, 2010, 01:08:20 pm
I could maybe maybe see Russia

They're doing the pod system for Russia to limit travel.

If St. Petersburg draws a quality group or some place down by the Black Sea it will be awesome. 

Russia has a few things over Qatar and I'll start with Vagina.  Lots of it.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on December 02, 2010, 01:11:57 pm
yeah i mean russia would be fun i bet


qatar i'd worry about dying
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 02, 2010, 01:22:31 pm
BTW - no alcohol for foreigners in Qatar.  That'll keep the English out.

and the Germans
...Belgians
...Dutch
...Irish
...Scottish (won't qualify anyway so no biggie)
...Welsh (see note above)
...Danish
...Swedes
...Yanks (used to pisswater but still under the alcohol umbrella I suppose)
have I forgotten any?



I can almost guarantee a south American country to win in Qatar because the heat will be a factor for the Europeans. Or maybe Italy due to the corruption factor. They could also win in Russia too for the same reason.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 02, 2010, 01:24:06 pm
I finally get to fulfill my dream and stone a woman.

Thank you FIFA.


Maybe they can hang those who finish bottom of each qualifying group just to make it interesting.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 02, 2010, 01:25:24 pm
I could maybe maybe see Russia

They're doing the pod system for Russia to limit travel.

If St. Petersburg draws a quality group or some place down by the Black Sea it will be awesome. 

Russia has a few things over Qatar and I'll start with Vagina.  Lots of it.

Georgous vagina too. (for the most part)
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Post by: hutch on December 02, 2010, 02:23:56 pm
according to the voting engladn and australia never had a chance getting 2 and  1 vote respectively


the US lost to Qatar in the fourth round of voting.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/9250612.stm
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 02, 2010, 02:36:58 pm
2026 - Djibouti!

Remember where you heard it first!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on December 02, 2010, 03:14:18 pm
2026 - Djibouti!

Remember where you heard it first!

going for the long-shot, eh? 

bookies are currently giving 3-1 odds on front-runnuer north korea...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 02, 2010, 03:18:39 pm
north korea is a nonstarter. they wont go two asian countries in a row, thus angering the chinese too

i'm thinking nigeria or venezuela
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Post by: vansmack on December 02, 2010, 04:19:04 pm
I'll take the combined Iceland/Greenland bid to just nudge out American Somoa/Fiji, which loses because the International Dateline would confuse the hell out of everybody.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on December 02, 2010, 05:12:57 pm
American Somoa/Fiji, which loses because the International Dateline would confuse the hell out of everybody.

not to mention that by 2026, a large portion of those countries will be underwater...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 02, 2010, 05:14:32 pm
The problem facing the Greenland/Iceland bid is Iceland is broke so could not line FIFA's pockets enough to win the bid.

North Korea could be a dark horse though. If there still is a North Korea by then of course...could be just a big ol parking lot soon enough if they don't mind their manners.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on December 02, 2010, 05:19:09 pm
iran'26 ftw!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on December 02, 2010, 06:20:45 pm
interesting article on why the US bid failed
http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/5872089/us-world-cup-bid-swings-misses

"The tiny oil-fueled state's beautiful proposition was reflected in a presentation that blew the U.S.'s out of the water aesthetically and emotionally. "When?" one of the stunning videos asked. When would the Arabs finally get the tournament of tournaments?"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 03, 2010, 01:21:43 pm
United's match tomorrow was cancelled because Smackie will be travelling and won't be able to watch the match.  Or Blackpool doesn't have a heated pitch.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 03, 2010, 01:30:20 pm
"When?" one of the stunning videos asked. When would the Arabs finally get the tournament of tournaments?"
when the world economy goes down and the bribes go up, apparently
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on December 03, 2010, 11:15:48 pm
nice work there, limeys...

England 2018 bid accused of arrogance
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=848525&sec=global&cc=5901
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 04, 2010, 10:17:55 am
nice work there, limeys...

England 2018 bid accused of arrogance
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=848525&sec=global&cc=5901

This is just FIFA coverin their ass.... arrogance? Was it arrogant when Blair swayed the olympic vote with his last minute visit? or LUla?

It had become standard part of the process for leaders to visit to demonstrate the nation's full commitment etc


We haven't heard the last about these bids.. a WSJ article alleges  a 78 million payment from Qatar to the Argentine Socccer Federation (second most important person in FIFA is Julio Grondona the head of the Argentine Soccer Federation ..known as "Don Corleone")

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on December 04, 2010, 07:13:42 pm
more speculation on why Qatar got the 2022 world cup...

"Bin Hammam (president of the asian confederation) is a close confidant of the FIFA president. He also happens to be from Qatar. Hammam has spoken in the past about the need for reform at FIFA and wanted to limit presidency terms to two four-year stints only in contrast to the Mugabe-style stranglehold Blatter currently holds on power in Zurich. But the AFC chief has been reticent on the matter of late.

"Could there be a link between his decision to quieten down and follow the status quo and the ExCo's decision to award his confederation, and indeed, his nation the 2022 World Cup? FIFA is as much about glad-handing and back-slapping as it is about the administration of football. Bin Hammam will be obliged to leave his AFC post after a final four-year term, by which time he is expected to succeed Blatter".

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/3520/world-cup-20182022-host-decision/2010/12/03/2243759/why-russia-and-qatar-won-the-rights-to-host-the-2018-and
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2010, 11:05:54 am
mike ashley is just unbelieveable
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 06, 2010, 11:28:17 am
total and utter insanity - no manager in the world could have gotten that squad higher than 11th at this stage of the season

one of the tru nice guys in the sport gets shafted
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2010, 11:37:34 am
agreed. i really like CH

this has been rumored for weeks on the net, though. unfortunately the same rumor had joe kinnear coming back in

i'm ready to vomit
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 06, 2010, 11:47:45 am
again, why oh why oh why would you sack him for Kinnear  :o :o

second half of the season could be rough
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2010, 12:00:24 pm
the statement said they wanted someone with more prem experience

as far as joke in ear (if that is indeed true), its newcastle united. take the dumbest scenario you can possibly think of with your manager and that's mike ashley's likely direction
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 06, 2010, 03:54:33 pm
Maybe Ashley prefers championship football over the premiership - enter Kinnear!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2010, 04:05:33 pm
we do a lot of winning down there
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 06, 2010, 04:34:41 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/dec/06/chris-hughton-newcastle-united-stupid-decision

url says it all
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2010, 04:51:40 pm
if the southern media hates it, i may have to change my stance
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 07, 2010, 10:16:29 am
Looks like the magpies are getting a dutchman for christmas.......
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 07, 2010, 12:35:33 pm
i dont believe the jol rumors. his appointment makes too much sense
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 07, 2010, 02:47:27 pm
the one part about the Jol thing I don't understand is that I figured himself and Hughton must be pretty good friends based on their time at Spurs, no?

Moneys a heck of a cure all, but do you really think Jol would be that motivated to go to a club that shafted his former No. 2 so badly?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 07, 2010, 03:35:32 pm
they worked together, but jol didnt exactly hire hughton. he'd been at spurs forever

and again, i dont believe it. lots of people saying pardew
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 08, 2010, 09:49:43 am
Toon - Welcome back to the Championship!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9267960.stm

Can someone please explain to me what Pardew brings to the table that Hughton didn't, other than maybe getting West Ham and Southampton relegated?



Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 08, 2010, 10:02:23 am
gotta love the british media. such a vague story
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 08, 2010, 10:49:14 am
gotta love the british media. such a vague story

Yeah - evidently they cost us the world cup!!  ::)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 08, 2010, 11:11:54 am
sky sports quoted a fake andy carroll twitter account yesterday
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 08, 2010, 01:50:59 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/08/newcastle-alan-pardew-fans-poll

I can understand firing Hughton to get a true "name" manager, but Pardew? Come on!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 08, 2010, 02:01:02 pm
yeah, lots of people are saying its pardew

i'll wait until its official before i start flying off the handle though

lots of "looks like" and "mights" going on with the story. the whole situation stinks
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 08, 2010, 02:30:04 pm
43% managerial win record
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 08, 2010, 05:44:13 pm
Lov'n this Chelski slump....long may it last!  ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 09, 2010, 10:03:38 am
Pardew it is.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/9267960.stm

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 09, 2010, 10:27:21 am
unreal. guess the news conference is starting in the next hour or so. have no idea what this is supposed to accomplish apart from make the club look crazy. again.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 10, 2010, 02:02:59 pm
First order of business:

Selling Joey Barton (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=851309&sec=transfers&cc=5901)

And Keegan was brutally honest in this piece (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=851112&sec=england&root=england&cc=5901).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 10, 2010, 02:17:01 pm
look, they might sell joey barton, but that story is so ridiculous. newcastle wants 4xs what west ham is offering and the hammers want joe to take a pay cut. sounds like a done deal  ::)

after they get 20m for scott parker. amazing

harry harris is notoriously bad. what kind of name is that anyway

i agree with keegan for the most part though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 10, 2010, 02:55:42 pm
Kevin "how's my perm look" Keegan was okay as far as a one-dimensional players go I suppose, but he's hardly an expert on managerial issues...he failed miserably then quit at every team he managed.

The article hardly breaks ground - any dufus knows Ashley is a moron. I wonder were Hughton will end up though, because I don't expect him to be short on offers. Wilkinsons replacement at Stamford Bridge perhaps???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 10, 2010, 03:12:57 pm
hard to call his first stint with newcastle a miserable failure. second time i feel like he got too much slack from the toon army for his role in our demise
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 13, 2010, 11:57:45 am
all along i kind of thought our skid was down to not having all of our best players available. newcastle united is just a thin, thin team and that has nothing to do with management
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: walkonby on December 13, 2010, 12:20:09 pm
we need soccer to be huge in our country.  i'm tired of our so called sports with their non riots based on people's hatred of another due to where they live.  we need hundreds injured and dead after the cowboys play the redskins.  now that's a sport.   
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 13, 2010, 12:56:35 pm
Allardyce out at Blackburn
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 13, 2010, 01:35:48 pm
shocking
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 13, 2010, 02:38:20 pm
WTF is that all about? He was making a silk purse out of a pigs ear at Ewood. Another one who won't be out of a job for long, unless he wants to be. He doesn't produce entertaining football, but he does get results.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 13, 2010, 03:12:28 pm
only thing larger than his waist line is he ego, and the only thing worse than his tactics is his abilty to manage a checkbook

real madrid will surely calling
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 13, 2010, 04:03:16 pm
Maybe they will give him the England job after Capello replaces Fray Bentos at Inter Milan, so England can get back to the old long-ball tactics!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 13, 2010, 05:56:11 pm
PHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back to the top it is though
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Post by: vansmack on December 13, 2010, 08:58:20 pm
PHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back to the top it is though

The defense was incredible.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 14, 2010, 11:05:54 am
Was Rooney doing an audition for Dancing With The Stars in the run-up to the penalty shot?

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 14, 2010, 01:13:02 pm
FIFA President: Gay Fans 'Should Refrain From Any Sexual Activities' During 2022 World Cup In Qatar.... So much for my World Cup plans.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 14, 2010, 01:26:00 pm
so we have a nongay, no hot chick, limited alcohol world cup in the winter awarded with "legal bribes"

great job fifa
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on December 14, 2010, 01:37:33 pm
gays, alcohol, religious diversity, western fashion, political expression...

WC'22 has the potential to really open up that part of the world - or it could go horribly wrong with people being arrested for the above "offenses".  should the latter be the case, FIFA is going to look even stupider than it already does.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: walkonby on December 14, 2010, 02:23:13 pm
people could do away with religion . . . problem solved.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 14, 2010, 02:45:07 pm
No gays? Then there can be no Chelksi, Pikeypool or Arsehole players playing for their respective countries!!! France and Spain are fucked!

So no gay sex, booze or hot chicks...can we still stone women at least?

Just think if Israel qualify!! That would be interesting.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on December 14, 2010, 02:55:12 pm
israel qualifying would be AWESOME.  i say we take up a collection now, over a decade we're sure to amass enough money to buy their way into the tournament (everything else about it seems to be for sale, so why not entry?)  really, how much can it cost to buy off a few of their opponents?

can't wait for the "babes of the world cup" websites and pictorals that inevitably pop up.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 15, 2010, 02:10:15 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12003358

Russia should be fun too!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 15, 2010, 10:12:37 pm
man even I'm disappointed in Tevez
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 16, 2010, 09:57:47 am
man even I'm disappointed in Tevez

Why? It's his m.o. ...he's a fucking drama queen. It will come to the point were the big teams won't want him. (if it's not already got to that point) SAF is proving yet again that he's a genius, and I'm the first to admit I was disapointed when he let him leave OT, because Rooney and Tevez up front would be like two pitbulls let loose on a back line. There's always more to the story though and the details are finally coming out.

I hope he fucks off back to Argentina and plays into obscurity with Boca Raton Juniors or whatever they're called.

I miss the days when players were men and played their hearts out for the jersey and their paycheck....."relationships with the board have reached breaking point' WTF! The only relationship a player needs with 'the board' is to make sure there's a signature on their paycheck!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 16, 2010, 11:50:36 am
man even I'm disappointed in Tevez

Why? It's his m.o. ...he's a fucking drama queen. It will come to the point were the big teams won't want him. (if it's not already got to that point) SAF is proving yet again that he's a genius, and I'm the first to admit I was disapointed when he let him leave OT, because Rooney and Tevez up front would be like two pitbulls let loose on a back line. There's always more to the story though and the details are finally coming out.

I hope he fucks off back to Argentina and plays into obscurity with Boca Raton Juniors or whatever they're called.

I miss the days when players were men and played their hearts out for the jersey and their paycheck....."relationships with the board have reached breaking point' WTF! The only relationship a player needs with 'the board' is to make sure there's a signature on their paycheck!

hold the anti-argentina crap frank, ok?


boca juniors ain't obscurity.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 16, 2010, 12:20:26 pm
man even I'm disappointed in Tevez

Why? It's his m.o. ...he's a fucking drama queen. It will come to the point were the big teams won't want him. (if it's not already got to that point) SAF is proving yet again that he's a genius, and I'm the first to admit I was disapointed when he let him leave OT, because Rooney and Tevez up front would be like two pitbulls let loose on a back line. There's always more to the story though and the details are finally coming out.

I hope he fucks off back to Argentina and plays into obscurity with Boca Raton Juniors or whatever they're called.

I miss the days when players were men and played their hearts out for the jersey and their paycheck....."relationships with the board have reached breaking point' WTF! The only relationship a player needs with 'the board' is to make sure there's a signature on their paycheck!

hold the anti-argentina crap frank, ok?


boca juniors ain't obscurity.....


I'm English and served in the Falklands.....I think I can give a bit of light-hearted ribbing to Argentina....and take it in return.

Boca is obscurity if you live outside of ...Boca Argentina. Is there even a town called Boca outside of S. Florida? I'm a huge football fan, have been all my life, and I'm 50 years old but I couldn't even tell you what colors Boca play in? That's pretty obscure if you ask me!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 16, 2010, 12:24:02 pm
(http://www.uksoccershop.com/images/6365.gif)

Very cool......FOR A CYCLING JERSEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 16, 2010, 01:18:09 pm
man even I'm disappointed in Tevez

(http://lefteyeonthemedia.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/taking-a-bow.jpg?w=346)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 16, 2010, 03:37:32 pm
maybe he can play for newcastle once the sale to qatar goes through  ::)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 16, 2010, 05:07:51 pm
Dale Boca carajo!!!!!!!!!!!!


Boca Juniors is one of the most successful clubs in Argentina and in the world, having won 41 official titles at the national and international level. Domestically, they have twenty-three league titles; they last won the 2008 Apertura tournament. Internationally, the team has won eighteen international titles[1], a record shared with A.C. Milan. Their international trophy haul includes six Copa Libertadores[2], four Recopa Sudamericana, three world club titles (Intercontinental Cup)[3], two Copa Sudamericana, one Copa Oro, one Supercopa Sudamericana, and one Supercopa Masters. Boca Juniors is one of eight teams to have won CONMEBOL's treble (the others being Olimpia, So Paulo, Independiente, Vlez Srsfield, Cruzeiro, Internacional and LDU Quito). Their success usually has Boca ranked among the IFFHS's Club World Ranking Top 25, which they have reached the top position six times (mostly during the coaching tenure of Carlos Bianchi).[4]
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 16, 2010, 05:26:15 pm
The fishing is good today everyone!!!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!! TIGHT LINES!!!

Argentina club football is like Scotland, 2 teams and the rest is fodder...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 16, 2010, 05:41:41 pm
The fishing is good today everyone!!!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!! TIGHT LINES!!!

Argentina club football is like Scotland, 2 teams and the rest is fodder...

Absolute poppycock..

The past 20 Argentine champions include 11 different teams!

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 16, 2010, 05:56:36 pm
The fishing is good today everyone!!!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!! TIGHT LINES!!!

Except that when you took some time off from the board, we went through this.  And yes, hutch will take the bait every time to defend all things Argentina...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: walkonby on December 16, 2010, 08:31:26 pm
(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/funny-pictures-watching-sports-cat.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2010, 09:47:19 am
The fishing is good today everyone!!!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!! TIGHT LINES!!!

Except that when you took some time off from the board, we went through this.  And yes, hutch will take the bait every time to defend all things Argentina...

Those Argies are a proud and, other south American nationalities will say, arrogant nation, and it just kills them to have to play second fiddle to Brasil all the time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 17, 2010, 01:31:11 pm
Champions League draw - First Round

AS Roma   v   Shakhtar Donetsk
AC Milan   v   Tottenham Hotspur
Valencia   v   FC Schalke
Inter Milan   v   Bayern Munich
Lyon   v   Real Madrid
Arsenal   v   Barcelona
Marseille   v   Manchester United
Copenhagen   v   Chelsea

There are some good first round matchups...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2010, 01:51:47 pm
both the milan matches and arse/barca are outstanding
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2010, 02:07:10 pm
Gabby Heinze v Man Utd!!!! The United supporters normally give ex-players a very warm welcome back to OT but I think this may be different considering the circumstances in his leaving.....and trying to finagle a move to Pikeypool!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on December 17, 2010, 02:37:25 pm
i'm totally rooting for donetsk.  hold up the bandwagon - here i come!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/Shaxtar_Donetsk.png)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2010, 02:53:08 pm
speaking of brasil...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2010, 06:04:44 pm
AS Roma    v   Shakhtar Donetsk
AC Milan   v   Tottenham Hotspur
Valencia   v   FC Schalke
Inter Milan   v   Bayern Munich
Lyon   v   Real Madrid
Arsenal   v   Barcelona
Marseille   v   Manchester United
Copenhagen   v   Chelsea

My predictions for the last 8.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 23, 2010, 10:22:54 am
Barcelona vs Man Utd July 30th DC

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-barcelona-ustour
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 23, 2010, 10:25:38 am
sweet
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on December 23, 2010, 02:08:18 pm
Barcelona vs Man Utd July 30th DC

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-barcelona-ustour

but we will not see messi, mascherano nor alves, because they will be playing copa america in argentina...bummer...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 23, 2010, 02:30:50 pm
Barcelona vs Man Utd July 30th DC

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-barcelona-ustour

but we will not see messi, mascherano nor alves, because they will be playing copa america in argentina...bummer...

wow...great point
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 27, 2010, 04:01:01 pm
i have such a love/hate relationship with boxing day
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 27, 2010, 07:02:51 pm
Barcelona vs Man Utd July 30th DC

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-barcelona-ustour

but we will not see messi, mascherano nor alves, because they will be playing copa america in argentina...bummer...

You can still see Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Busquets, Villa, Puyol and Pique, more than 50% of the team that won the World Cup, and that was not Spain.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on December 29, 2010, 11:42:42 am
Barcelona vs Man Utd July 30th DC

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-barcelona-ustour

but we will not see messi, mascherano nor alves, because they will be playing copa america in argentina...bummer...

You can still see Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Busquets, Villa, Puyol and Pique, more than 50% of the team that won the World Cup, and that was not Spain.

my bad if what i said came across like i wasn't interested in seeing this game...be sure i'll be there, but it's true that not seeing messi for bara and hernandez for united takes the star power of the game a notch down...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 29, 2010, 12:03:46 pm
i'll go if i can get cheap tickets
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 03, 2011, 02:45:36 pm
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs077.snc6/168768_483780407745_7724542745_6500870_8046749_n.jpg)

One of these kids is not like the others...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 03, 2011, 02:53:53 pm
I'd have to say 2 of these kids are not like the others. Ronaldo and Owen don't qualify as United greats in my eyes.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 03, 2011, 03:01:31 pm
he-who-will-not-be-named's man u career doesnt even come close to ronaldo's
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 03, 2011, 04:12:48 pm
he-who-will-not-be-named's man u career doesnt even come close to ronaldo's

huh?-who-he-be?

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 03, 2011, 04:52:33 pm
one of the names of a certain former newcastle united captain. i cant type his name without swears
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 03, 2011, 05:00:39 pm
Ah! Michael "O-wen will he ever be off the injured list"?

Ronaldo is just a great player, but never was, and never will be a true United player. Not in my book anyway.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 03, 2011, 05:05:35 pm
Another young Italian striker going on loan to Italy has me quite concerned as a United fan.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 03, 2011, 05:33:29 pm
there were some vague toon links for him as well. i'd have him, though i think the club needs a fast striker rather than another tall one. kid can finish regardless
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 03, 2011, 05:42:00 pm
Another young Italian striker going on loan to Italy has me quite concerned as a United fan.

Naw....he just needs more playing time, and the last time we loaned out one of our top prospects to a premiership team (who shall remain nameless) they had the kid bench warming. He could do that at O-fucking-T for crying out loud! Looks like "toon" burned those bridges huh? Oops....I let that slip out didn't I?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 03, 2011, 05:44:22 pm
that was 6 managers and two owners ago. not sure if that's the case

or was it 7  ???

plus fergie wouldnt let us play him in the uefa cup
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 03, 2011, 05:52:19 pm
6 managers and 2 owners is what???? 3 months in Geordie years???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 03, 2011, 05:54:08 pm
nah

four months  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 05, 2011, 02:40:58 pm
i tell you what, there is no such thing as comfort while you have mike ashley owning your team. i'll believe any rumor as long as its negative
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 05, 2011, 06:24:04 pm
Are you Burnley in disguise?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 05, 2011, 09:46:51 pm
Spurs and Chelsea lose, Arse and Shitty draw and Liverpool comtinue their implosion. Pinch me, am I dreaming??
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 06, 2011, 10:04:08 am
no word about your countryman's hattrick?  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 06, 2011, 11:45:43 am
Spurs and Chelsea lose, Arse and Shitty draw and Liverpool comtinue their implosion. Pinch me, am I dreaming??

All my christmas wishes came true!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 06, 2011, 01:23:52 pm
actually its all going so well, I'm actually starting to get a bit paranoid....just hope they can keep this, what I would describe as mediocre consistency up for a few more weeks

Spurs and Chelsea lose, Arse and Shitty draw and Liverpool comtinue their implosion. Pinch me, am I dreaming??

All my christmas wishes came true!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 10, 2011, 10:37:45 am
STONEWALL PENALTY AND GERRARD SHOULD'VE BEEN ARRESTED!!!  ;D

As the Stretford End so eloquently sang.....

...YOU DIRTY SCOUSE BASTARD!! YOU DIRTY SCOUSE BASTARD!!!

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 11, 2011, 02:41:17 pm
12th Feb should be fun!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/9358383.stm
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2011, 02:44:27 pm
12th Feb should be fun!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/9358383.stm

"I saw something in City" 

Yeah, a fat pay check.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 11, 2011, 02:49:36 pm
12th Feb should be fun!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/9358383.stm

"I saw something in City" 

Yeah, a fat pay check.

He does realize they don't even have a stadium right? It belongs to the city of Manchester and they just rent it. That's why it's known as "the council house" The city wanted United to move in but Fergie said no...They would evict the blue scum tomorrow if United decided they wanted it. Must suck to be them.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2011, 03:05:37 pm
12th Feb should be fun!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/9358383.stm

"I saw something in City" 

Yeah, a fat pay check.

He does realize they don't even have a stadium right? It belongs to the city of Manchester and they just rent it. That's why it's known as "the council house" The city wanted United to move in but Fergie said no...They would evict the blue scum tomorrow if United decided they wanted it. Must suck to be them.
i'm guessing, no he doesnt realize any of that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 12, 2011, 02:54:57 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-12175278

Craig is the new Chuck!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 12, 2011, 03:57:41 pm
so apparently the qatar world cup is now in the winter and throughout "the gulf"

couldnt make this up
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 13, 2011, 10:21:31 am
I lost interest in international football after the Russia/Qatar fiasco....and not because England didn't get it either. FIFA is just so corrupt that FIFA sanctioned game-fixing to allow 'up-and-coming' footballing countries to participate is only a matter of time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 13, 2011, 10:24:49 am
to be honest i'm almost exhausted talking about qatar. russia i dont really have an issue with

they just add layer upon layer of insanity

but i've always been a club over country guy
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on January 13, 2011, 10:52:17 am
so apparently the qatar world cup is now in the winter and throughout "the gulf"

can't wait to see what security is going to be like for games featuring the US or England.  and, as mentioned previously, having israel qualify would be epic.  i bet that would mean stretching the definition of "the gulf" to include jordan or egypt.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 13, 2011, 12:50:40 pm
one of the selling points was the ease of travel between venues

Qatar's World Cup Spending Spree (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203513204576047681613086452.html?KEYWORDS=qatar)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 14, 2011, 03:04:13 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/birmingham_city/9362485.stm

He really is nobody's child isn't he? I never did rate him to be honest.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 14, 2011, 03:49:27 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/birmingham_city/9362485.stm

He really is nobody's child isn't he? I never did rate him to be honest.

I've always liked him, but it's the Irish in me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 14, 2011, 03:53:35 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/birmingham_city/9362485.stm

He really is nobody's child isn't he? I never did rate him to be honest.

I've always liked him, but it's the Irish in me.

Gerrard and Terry are fellow Englishmen but I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2011, 03:55:02 pm
i'm a little surprised that brum splashed the cash on him
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 14, 2011, 04:29:43 pm
I'm surprised that anybody splashed the cash on him. He should be playing in the Championship in my opinion. Nothing personal...I just don't rate him as a player.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2011, 04:31:10 pm
so he'll fit in with the rest of their squad?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on January 14, 2011, 09:26:40 pm
just saw the two escobars, what a great documentary.."the deaths of pablo and andrs escobar marked the end of the golden age of colombian soccer"...do yourself a favor and watch it...

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 16, 2011, 07:16:41 pm
agreed. must see viewing
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 11:02:19 am
Daren Bent 18million quid......really?  ???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 18, 2011, 11:04:16 am
desperate times
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 18, 2011, 12:38:05 pm
and what do spurs need with another midget midfielder?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 12:52:54 pm
To 'Arry he's a giant
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 01:08:43 pm
Steven Pienaar poised to move from Everton to Tottenham.....


...and the rot continues at Stamford Bridge! They can't even attract mediocre players in the twilight of their careers anymore, even with that truckload 'o' money.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 18, 2011, 01:25:18 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/birmingham_city/9362485.stm

He really is nobody's child isn't he? I never did rate him to be honest.
Keane: Birmingham wanted publicity (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/867513/robbie-keane:-birmingham-wanted-publicity?cc=5901)

so odd
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 01:28:18 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/b/birmingham_city/9362485.stm

He really is nobody's child isn't he? I never did rate him to be honest.
Keane: Birmingham wanted publicity (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/867513/robbie-keane:-birmingham-wanted-publicity?cc=5901)

so odd

That's the hurt talking because nobody loves him...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2011, 01:32:31 pm
Agreed, the Two Escobars is incredible.  Even non soccer fans I've recommended it to thought it was incredible.

That Bent number is ridiculous.

Babel to The Hoff(enheim) have me a bit worried that Suarez is going to L'Pool.  I think Suarez is good, and I'm torn between that move and seeing him move to White Hart Lane.

Oh, and Vidic is a GIANT.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 18, 2011, 01:39:48 pm
the suarez rumor is kind of interesting to me. ajax says its going to take a ton of cash and the player says he wants to win

i dont see 'pool looking to drop 20m+ on one player or winning anything this year. seems like an odd fit
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 02:21:47 pm
I can't see any world class player wanting to go to Anfield at the moment. They are in such disarray and have no chance of Champions League next season. It will take a manager 5 years to clean up the spanish waiter's mess. Hodgson should've been given at least a year to see were he was going with it. I can't believe that the Kop are dictating who becomes manager.  Which is basically what's happening. Hodgson is only gone because the stupid fans didn't take a shine to him. The fans were beginning to turn on Fergie all those years ago, and look how that ended up?


How do you like this rumour?....Arry and Becks the next management team for England??? I think it might just work if Beckham wants to go the managerial route, which he has already said he doesn't but you never know.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2011, 02:39:20 pm
think it might just work if Beckham wants to go the managerial route, which he has already said he doesn't but you never know.

I think Beck's thoughts on coaching changed dramatically when he couldn't play in the WC and sat on the bench next to Capello.  He's not going to be the best tactician, but he ha s good read of the game and the players.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2011, 06:20:34 pm
think it might just work if Beckham wants to go the managerial route, which he has already said he doesn't but you never know.

I think Beck's thoughts on coaching changed dramatically when he couldn't play in the WC and sat on the bench next to Capello.  He's not going to be the best tactician, but he ha s good read of the game and the players.


....and lets not forget his pep-talk. "Right lads, play well and you get to knob a Spice Girl like me"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 19, 2011, 02:45:50 pm
I am not man.  I am Cantona.

Cantona hired by New York Cosmos to Rebuild the Team (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/867893/eric-cantona-back-in-football-with-new-york-cosmos?cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 19, 2011, 04:21:03 pm
I am not man.  I am Cantona.

Cantona hired by New York Cosmos to Rebuild the Team (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/867893/eric-cantona-back-in-football-with-new-york-cosmos?cc=5901)

He must be bored with being a GOD.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 21, 2011, 02:49:30 pm
so today newcastle have been linked with:
steven ireland
clint dempsey

and a takeover from vince mcmahon

cant even type it without laughing

(http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_sow_experts__12/ept_sports_sow_experts-725666917-1284656674.jpg?ymiI.xDDCx9YjU6T)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 21, 2011, 04:52:39 pm
I would take Stephen Ireland at MAN U in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 21, 2011, 05:09:23 pm
even if he was a shit footballer, the pictures online are enough for me to want him at the toon
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/27/article-1126666-0064ABC200000578-687_468x253.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 31, 2011, 09:53:36 am
Rumour has it Toon has rejected a 30mil bid for Carroll by scum! I would've snatched their stupid scouse arm off. As for Carroll, he could buy a lot of whores to slap around with his cut of 30mil so you know he's pissed off.

Should be a fun last day before the window closes. You'd think the big spenders would be lining up for Bale...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 31, 2011, 10:18:51 am
the issue with carroll is the player doesnt want to go

they need to replace him, and an average prem striker costs 15m in jan. add a few million for it being an 11th hour deal and youre looking at an awful lot of trouble for the remaining 10-12m (plus higher wages) and an awful lot of risk

having said all that, i bet he's off today
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 31, 2011, 11:32:25 am
Any player of quality with an eye on the long-term future will have no interest in going to pikeypool. In fact, they're looking to get out of that shit-hole. Except Gerrard but he's a fucking moron.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 31, 2011, 11:55:44 am
its crazy

liverpool are no better off than us
they have no idea who their manager is going to be next year
they arent in the champions league
they have a really hard task to get there next year
they still need at least 4-5 more players in the summer

i get that 35m is a lot of money, but to sell our best player with no one near that level coming back in is reckless
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 31, 2011, 12:30:42 pm
also ireland failed his medical
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 31, 2011, 12:45:53 pm
also ireland failed his medical

Is there a punchline or is that true?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 31, 2011, 12:56:22 pm
seen the failed medical a couple of places, so it sounds true. nothing official yet

latest is we've rejected a 35m bid  :o
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 31, 2011, 12:57:47 pm
still think he's off though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 31, 2011, 01:40:24 pm
BREAKING NEWS: LIVERPOOL ANNOUNCE THEY HAVE AGREED A FEE FOR NEWCASTLE STRIKER ANDY CARROLL

www.bbc.co.uk
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 31, 2011, 01:43:26 pm
"Just spoke to Gerard Houllier: Stephen Ireland move to Newcastle still ON despite rumours of a failed medical, Aston Villa and Newcastle in talks as we speak. Michael Bradley is a "done deal" and Ashley Young is "100% staying".

(i didn't speak with Houllier you understand..I'm just copying and pasting from bbc)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 31, 2011, 01:50:23 pm
I hear Adam is off to Anfield as well.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 31, 2011, 01:55:54 pm
I hear Adam is off to Anfield as well.

There was a rumour United were in the mix for him but it turned out it was just Dalglish trying to imitate SAF so he would be excited about a move!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 31, 2011, 02:08:11 pm
awful lot of business for liverpool. they dont even have a manager for next season

i'm gutted over carroll. no we get another striker worth a damn in before the window closes. and the money wont be there in the summer even if we stay up. awful stuff

never buying a shirt with a players name again
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 31, 2011, 02:16:52 pm
"Mike Ashley bought the club for 134 million, so it looks like Andy Carroll is worth a quarter of the club. Crackers isn't it?"

"Mesut Ozil+Sami Khedira+Van Der Vaart+Javier Hernandez = Andy Carroll."

Oh and Tottenham have put a bid in to bring Guisseppe Rossi back to the Prem league.  that will annoy me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 31, 2011, 02:18:13 pm
never buying a shirt with a players name again

RETRO!!! It's the only way to go. My Man Utd jersey is 1960's old school cotton long sleeve with just the 11 on the back. (George Best) although he also wore 7. That was back in the day when the number represented the position on the field...1 goalie, 2 right back, 3 left back, 4 right mid, 5 centre half, 6 left mid, 7 right wing,  8 inside right, 9 center forward, 10 inside left, 11 left wing...12, 13, 14 subs. That's back when every team played a 2-3-5 set up. WOW!!! I'm old eh?

I will probably throw up a little if Rossi comes back to haunt us. I was pissed when we sold him in the first place.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 31, 2011, 02:32:20 pm
Michael Bradley is a "done deal"

I like this deal.  Villa is a good place for his style of play (and of course, the more Americans start playing in England the better off the national squad will be).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 31, 2011, 02:56:42 pm
awful lot of business for liverpool. they dont even have a manager for next season\

You have to assume that with all this cash being thrown around, Daglish has his hand in this and it's his job next season, right?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 31, 2011, 03:53:11 pm
also ireland failed his medical

This deal is done now.  I forgot he played for Houllier before, and I don't think it went well.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 31, 2011, 04:17:36 pm
Hehe.

[Comment From Andrew ]
John, who is your biggest winner in the deadline so far? Who do you think will benefit on the final table the most?

John Brewin: Mike Ashley's bookmaker, casino owner or favoured bar.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 31, 2011, 05:19:48 pm
All this activity bodes well for United and Arse....big new signings in Jan can eff up team chemistry for a few weeks.

I think that's why SAF and Wenger aren't that active mid-season, unless they're pushed into it to snatch a player they had their eye on but seems to be on the move.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 31, 2011, 07:07:17 pm
Apparently both Spurs and Liverpool failed to get Adam.  Good for Blackpool, but what the hell would Spurs do with Adam?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 01, 2011, 11:23:10 am
next day and i am still gutted
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 01, 2011, 11:48:54 am
Did you ever go out on the ale and wake up the next morning to remember what an idiot you made of yourself? "Oh God...what did I do last night?"

Well - I think there's a couple of players and check writers saying the same thing this morning....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 01, 2011, 11:52:26 am
absolutely

andy's already in the press saying he didnt want to move. liverpool just spent 35m on a player that doesnt want to be there. unreal
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2011, 04:11:50 pm
It's about fuckin time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 01, 2011, 04:31:29 pm
It's about fuckin time.

Yeah....no shit!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2011, 04:46:00 pm
It's about fuckin time.

Yeah....no shit!

It's time for the rest of the league to start getting nervous.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 01, 2011, 06:30:34 pm
It's about fuckin time.

Yeah....no shit!

It's time for the rest of the league to start getting nervous.

YEP! They can win as much as they want but they need us to lose!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 02, 2011, 01:57:28 pm
Can we talk about why the two best games are not on TV in the States today?

Retarded.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 02, 2011, 02:18:41 pm
no clue why bolton/wolves is on fsc+. cant believe that our match isnt even on delay. of course i cant even watch it at work. awful
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 02, 2011, 02:49:41 pm
Gary Neville just retired with immediate effect.

He's been really poor lately so I'm not surprised.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 03, 2011, 09:58:38 am
He never was the fastest and now even I could keep up with him.

He's been a loyal and solid fullback for Utd and England. Plus being a born and bred manc like myself, he fucking despises pikeypool so he's alright in my book.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 03, 2011, 10:25:35 am
just keeps (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/875255/more-newcastle-striker-woe-as-shola-ameobi-ruled-out?campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=5901) getting better (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Newcastle-captain-Kevin-Nolan-sparks-Toon-Army-fury-after-Andy-Carroll-comments-on-Liverpool-TV-article688475.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 07, 2011, 03:23:53 pm
Interesting weekend.........no?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 08, 2011, 08:38:55 am
probably would have fast forwarded to the goals in the toon match if it wasnt for smackie

(http://i.imgur.com/GbpOk.gif)

rumors going around that carroll is done for the season too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 08, 2011, 09:37:15 am
rumors going around that carroll is done for the season too


His career is done now he's at Scumfield....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 09, 2011, 01:24:35 pm
john henry is skilled at magic, apparently (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/878027/john-w-henry:-we-have-only-one-aim-at-liverpool?cc=5901)
Quote
"We have a unique skill-set at Fenway, and it is perfectly suited to breaking what they call curses'', he said. ''We had an 86-year drought at Boston for winning a World Series."

"We did that, and we have a 20-year drought for winning the first division at Liverpool. Liverpool has never won a Premier League.

"There was a very strong feeling amongst us that we were uniquely qualified to break the 'curse'. Even though we didn't know the sport, we knew the sports business and knew what it takes to put together a sports organisation."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 09, 2011, 01:44:59 pm
john henry is skilled at magic, apparently (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/878027/john-w-henry:-we-have-only-one-aim-at-liverpool?cc=5901)
Quote
"We have a unique skill-set at Fenway, and it is perfectly suited to breaking what they call curses'', he said. ''We had an 86-year drought at Boston for winning a World Series."

"We did that, and we have a 20-year drought for winning the first division at Liverpool. Liverpool has never won a Premier League.

"There was a very strong feeling amongst us that we were uniquely qualified to break the 'curse'. Even though we didn't know the sport, we knew the sports business and knew what it takes to put together a sports organisation."


Needs more than magic -  needs a fucking miracle, and even God hates scousers!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 10, 2011, 11:07:26 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12376035

Kind of a misleading calculation but still interesting in it's own right.
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Post by: vansmack on February 10, 2011, 02:03:56 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12376035

Kind of a misleading calculation but still interesting in it's own right.

Real keeps half of any sponsorship deal it's players sign.  That's a huge advantage over other clubs...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 10, 2011, 05:14:01 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12376035

Kind of a misleading calculation but still interesting in it's own right.

Real keeps half of any sponsorship deal it's players sign.  That's a huge advantage over other clubs...

That's what happens when you play for a socialist government owned team. On the bright side they'll never go into administration!!  :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 10, 2011, 05:59:30 pm
just keeps (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/875255/more-newcastle-striker-woe-as-shola-ameobi-ruled-out?campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=5901) getting better (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Newcastle-captain-Kevin-Nolan-sparks-Toon-Army-fury-after-Andy-Carroll-comments-on-Liverpool-TV-article688475.html)

Problem solved.  Shefki Kuqi! (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/878461/shefki-kuqi-'coup'-for-newcastle-as-striker-signs-on-free?cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 10, 2011, 06:05:05 pm
well he's younger than me at least

by 10 months
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 10, 2011, 06:53:39 pm
well he's younger than me at least

by 10 months

haha.  I was going to post "at least he's younger than me..."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2011, 09:01:08 am
i cant believe we're not on tv again

why not have 5under1and/spurs on just twice instead of three times on sunday? unreal
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2011, 01:18:05 pm
i cant believe we're not on tv again

why not have 5under1and/spurs on just twice instead of three times on sunday? unreal

You're on live on Fox Soccer Plus at 10am.  If they replayed that on FSC nobody would buy the Plus channel.

More interesting is that the 4:45am game is NOT on ESPN2 and thus not in HD for most of the country.  Oh, that would be the Manchester Derby.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2011, 02:09:27 pm
weird, i swear they had brum/stoke on the schedule when i looked for it last night

edit: liverpool/wigan, not brum. still says it on the dtv app. weird
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 11, 2011, 04:39:19 pm
Can I ask a really stupid question here. (yes, another!)

I don't have HD because I don't really feel I need it. The picture is fine on regular telly for the most part except for live EPL games, then it gets kind of bleary. Is that just due to live transmission or are they doing it intentionally to get you to upgrade to HD?

I wouldn't put it past those bastards at Comcast.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2011, 05:00:14 pm
Can I ask a really stupid question here. (yes, another!)

I don't have HD because I don't really feel I need it. The picture is fine on regular telly for the most part except for live EPL games, then it gets kind of bleary. Is that just due to live transmission or are they doing it intentionally to get you to upgrade to HD?

I wouldn't put it past those bastards at Comcast.

Is this in regards to Fox soccer because I have noticed the same (I don't have FSC in HD).  If this is about ESPN2 I can't help you because I have it in HD.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 11, 2011, 05:16:28 pm
Can I ask a really stupid question here. (yes, another!)

I don't have HD because I don't really feel I need it. The picture is fine on regular telly for the most part except for live EPL games, then it gets kind of bleary. Is that just due to live transmission or are they doing it intentionally to get you to upgrade to HD?

I wouldn't put it past those bastards at Comcast.

Is this in regards to Fox soccer because I have noticed the same (I don't have FSC in HD).  If this is about ESPN2 I can't help you because I have it in HD.

FSC
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2011, 06:01:34 pm
Whatever FSC does to down-res the picture from HD to standard definition has made he SD picture look like a damn fishbowl.

The frustrating part is that it's not like I can get the HD picture because my cable company does not offer it.  F you Comcast.  I'm counting down the days....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Jerrinna on February 12, 2011, 12:42:15 pm
Thoughts on the derby....

Best goal I have ever witnessed live on TV. 

Certainly goal of the year!  Career?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 14, 2011, 10:04:55 am
I doubt you will ever see a better goal ever again. You can't coach that type of natural talent.

Nani's goal was also brilliant, the pass from Giggsy was just phenomenal, but it will be forgotten. If United go on and win the title Rooney's goal will be recorded in history as the goal that won them the title. I think it has sent out a message, loud and clear, to the rest of the title chasers that Rooney is back.

All I have to say is .......


HEY TEVEZ!!!!! WELCOME BACK TO SALFORD - WANKER!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 14, 2011, 01:20:56 pm
yeah both goals were fantastic

newcastle had one of their best games of the season, apart from finishing. good thing they didnt pick up another striker in january
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 14, 2011, 02:59:36 pm
Pretty much set the tone for my weekend.  Brilliant strike and I loved the pose....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 14, 2011, 03:27:32 pm
Pretty much set the tone for my weekend.  Brilliant strike and I loved the pose....

Yeah - Rory has been copying that pose all weekend.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 16, 2011, 11:21:03 am
Gatusso head butted Joe Jordan!!  :o He obviously doesn't know who Joe Jordan is eh?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 16, 2011, 11:46:34 am
i havent seen it yet. supposedly jordan's heckling of pardew was way over the top the last time newcastle played spurs though

pretty good win for the toon yesterday. on the road, both strikers scored from actual crosses and no reliance on set pieces. i'll take that any day
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 16, 2011, 12:58:20 pm
Gatusso head butted Joe Jordan!!  :o He obviously doesn't know who Joe Jordan is eh?

Ridiculous.  Gattuso was never intending to play in England in 2 weeks time. He tried desperately to get the yellow all match, and probably should have seen red.  I've never liked him as a person or in the opposition, but if he was on my team, I'd probably love him.

That being said, UEFA should come down hard on him for the after match altercation that he clearly provoked.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 16, 2011, 12:59:06 pm
Pretty much set the tone for my weekend.  Brilliant strike and I loved the pose....

Yeah - Rory has been copying that pose all weekend.

...and last night at practice. Even ran to the corner flag!!! (little bollocks that he is)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 16, 2011, 01:00:46 pm
Gatusso head butted Joe Jordan!!  :o He obviously doesn't know who Joe Jordan is eh?

Ridiculous.  Gattuso was never intending to play in England in 2 weeks time. He tried desperately to get the yellow all match, and probably should have seen red.  I've never liked him as a person or in the opposition, but if he was on my team, I'd probably love him.

That being said, UEFA should come down hard on him for the after match altercation that he clearly provoked.


Remember Dale Hunter????  ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 16, 2011, 01:07:02 pm
hockey is the best sport for that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 16, 2011, 01:30:50 pm
...and last night at practice. Even ran to the corner flag!!! (little bollocks that he is)

That's awesome!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 16, 2011, 01:31:46 pm
Apparently Jordan called him a "f#$%ing italian bastard" which is probably the nicest thing I've ever called an eye-tie.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 16, 2011, 01:43:16 pm
hey now
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on February 16, 2011, 01:44:13 pm
hockey is the best sport for that

indeed - pronger, brashear, ott, cooke... woops, wrong thread.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 16, 2011, 01:54:54 pm
hockey is the best sport for that

indeed - pronger, brashear, ott, cooke... woops, wrong thread.

Simon, Berube, Kaminski, Sheehy and Langway, although nobody would drop the gloves with Langway.

Hockey always welcome on this thread imo.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 16, 2011, 02:02:16 pm
hey now

Sorry -

"which is probably the nicest thing I've ever called an eye-tie Italian footballer."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 16, 2011, 02:13:42 pm
hey now

Sorry -

"which is probably the nicest thing I've ever called an eye-tie Italian footballer."

Divetalian
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on February 16, 2011, 05:44:40 pm
Arshavin!!!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 16, 2011, 05:45:59 pm
Great match.  Exciting stuff to watch...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 17, 2011, 10:20:54 am
Arshavin, aka "our-Sharon". Reminds me of Tom Cruise with highlights.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 17, 2011, 05:12:05 pm
i thought it was arse shavin'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 17, 2011, 05:17:44 pm
i thought it was arse shavin'

That works too...but if you say "Our Sharon" with a manc accent it's pretty close;
'AR' 'SHA'-'RIN'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 17, 2011, 05:19:10 pm
haha, yeah i lifted arse shavin from a toon message board
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 17, 2011, 08:56:36 pm
Ya'll forgot Jarkko Ruutu as the Ducks rebuild the Finnish National team.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 18, 2011, 09:14:46 am
i actually had a post naming him, ulf, tocchet, kasper, and cookie, but i didnt post it due to matt cooke fatigue. i used to call him jerkko ruutu when he played for the pens

three of our (maybe) 5 best players have called out management in the press this week. hope smackie and mankie enjoy jose next year
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 18, 2011, 03:55:59 pm
Man Utd v Crawley - What team do you think SAF will field? I'm guessing pretty strong after going out to Leeds last season. Or at least have some heavy-hitters on the bench.

I don't get that philosophy that most teams practice. They play with a weakened team with strength on the bench in case they need it. Why not start strong then get a couple of goals ahead then pull off your top players and put on the younger kids to keep the lead. It's easier to keep a lead rather than chase the game don't you think?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 21, 2011, 10:57:36 am
What an absolute load of bollocks! If you had just landed from another planet you would  not know who were the current premiership leaders and who were the non-league team. I mean, seriously........

A fucking foul throw by Rooney? That summed it up really. When was the last time you saw a throw called back at that level?

If Obertan and Bebe are what United are putting out on the field these days I'm polishing up my boots because there's still hope for my boyhood dream to come true!!!! Hopefully we can offload them to Madrid or Shitty because they seem to like our rejects.

On the other hand.....Congratulations to the pride of merseyside for dumping chelski....at the hand (or should that be foot) of an ex-United player!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 28, 2011, 10:21:38 am
Quite surprised to see Birmingham beat Arsenal. I think it may be feasible now to beat Arsenal in Barcelona, but difficult. Will Walcott and Fabregas be back in the team for the return leg?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 28, 2011, 10:59:47 am
I thnk Arse's season will fizzle out now. They are a delicate team so losing to Brum will have a psychological effect. Barca could very well beat them now.

On a somewhat related note (Arse/Barca) I took my son down to Ft. Lauderdale on Saturday to watch a pre-season game. Ft. Lauderdale Strikers V NY Redbulls (yep! I didn't know there was a pro-team in Lauderdale either. NASL or something) Anyway, Thiery Henry played the whole game and spent a long time talking to kids, signing autographs and having his photo taken with them. A real class act and made my sons day
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 28, 2011, 11:37:56 am
yeah my brother in law is a red bull season ticket holder. nothing but good things to say about henry

selfishly the brum win was bad, but good for them none the less

at least pardew wont be tempted to start ryan taylor the rest of the season. two points needlessly dropped
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on February 28, 2011, 12:50:34 pm
I thnk Arse's season will fizzle out now. They are a delicate team so losing to Brum will have a psychological effect. Barca could very well beat them now.

On a somewhat related note (Arse/Barca) I took my son down to Ft. Lauderdale on Saturday to watch a pre-season game. Ft. Lauderdale Strikers V NY Redbulls (yep! I didn't know there was a pro-team in Lauderdale either. NASL or something) Anyway, Thiery Henry played the whole game and spent a long time talking to kids, signing autographs and having his photo taken with them. A real class act and made my sons day

Henry a real class act?


now thats funny.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 28, 2011, 01:41:03 pm
If Obertan and Bebe are what United are putting out on the field these days I'm polishing up my boots because there's still hope for my boyhood dream to come true!!!!

I still think Obertain can turn the corner, but I'm starting to have my doubts.

Bebe, on the other hand, is completely useless.  I am more than capable of doing what he did - and that was against Crawley! 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 28, 2011, 01:41:27 pm
I thnk Arse's season will fizzle out now. They are a delicate team so losing to Brum will have a psychological effect. Barca could very well beat them now.

This too.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 28, 2011, 03:59:12 pm
I thnk Arse's season will fizzle out now. They are a delicate team so losing to Brum will have a psychological effect. Barca could very well beat them now.

On a somewhat related note (Arse/Barca) I took my son down to Ft. Lauderdale on Saturday to watch a pre-season game. Ft. Lauderdale Strikers V NY Redbulls (yep! I didn't know there was a pro-team in Lauderdale either. NASL or something) Anyway, Thiery Henry played the whole game and spent a long time talking to kids, signing autographs and having his photo taken with them. A real class act and made my sons day

Henry a real class act?


now thats funny.

Please expand....why is that so funny?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on February 28, 2011, 07:35:36 pm
I thnk Arse's season will fizzle out now. They are a delicate team so losing to Brum will have a psychological effect. Barca could very well beat them now.

On a somewhat related note (Arse/Barca) I took my son down to Ft. Lauderdale on Saturday to watch a pre-season game. Ft. Lauderdale Strikers V NY Redbulls (yep! I didn't know there was a pro-team in Lauderdale either. NASL or something) Anyway, Thiery Henry played the whole game and spent a long time talking to kids, signing autographs and having his photo taken with them. A real class act and made my sons day

Henry a real class act?


now thats funny.

Please expand....why is that so funny?

He's a serial diver and a cheater; nothing classy about that..

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 01, 2011, 11:13:03 am
I thnk Arse's season will fizzle out now. They are a delicate team so losing to Brum will have a psychological effect. Barca could very well beat them now.

On a somewhat related note (Arse/Barca) I took my son down to Ft. Lauderdale on Saturday to watch a pre-season game. Ft. Lauderdale Strikers V NY Redbulls (yep! I didn't know there was a pro-team in Lauderdale either. NASL or something) Anyway, Thiery Henry played the whole game and spent a long time talking to kids, signing autographs and having his photo taken with them. A real class act and made my sons day

Henry a real class act?


now thats funny.

Please expand....why is that so funny?

He's a serial diver and a cheater; nothing classy about that..



Well he did learn his trade at Arsenal so that's a given really....I meant more off the field and how he spent time with the kids.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on March 01, 2011, 11:28:09 am
I thnk Arse's season will fizzle out now. They are a delicate team so losing to Brum will have a psychological effect. Barca could very well beat them now.

On a somewhat related note (Arse/Barca) I took my son down to Ft. Lauderdale on Saturday to watch a pre-season game. Ft. Lauderdale Strikers V NY Redbulls (yep! I didn't know there was a pro-team in Lauderdale either. NASL or something) Anyway, Thiery Henry played the whole game and spent a long time talking to kids, signing autographs and having his photo taken with them. A real class act and made my sons day

Henry a real class act?


now thats funny.

Please expand....why is that so funny?

He's a serial diver and a cheater; nothing classy about that..



Well he did learn his trade at Arsenal so that's a given really....I meant more off the field and how he spent time with the kids.

point taken.. glad for you and your son.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 01, 2011, 05:46:07 pm
A close game at Stamford Bridge and chelski get a cheap penalty, then just in time for pikeypool Vidic gets a red card - is there no shame to the anti-Man Utd officials in the EPL???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 01, 2011, 06:02:40 pm
ha!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 02, 2011, 09:45:02 am
It's been reported that due to financial considerations Manchester United have parted company with 15 staff from the payroll.

5 referees and 10 assistant referees.

It was later reported that just like the Peter Kenyon situation Chelski FC have hired them and tripled their salaries.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 03, 2011, 10:25:16 am
Atkinson has refereed 13 Premier League matches involving Chelsea since the 2006/07 season with the London side winning 12 and drawing one, including two victories over Manchester United and one over Liverpool.

....just say'n!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 03, 2011, 04:09:45 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9413488.stm

Didn't see that coming!!  ???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 03, 2011, 07:37:30 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9413488.stm

Didn't see that coming!!  ???

Me neither.  He's been inconsistent at best.  I thought he and SAF were on the outs too....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 04, 2011, 09:10:19 am
i thought that was going to be about kolo taking the wrong cold medicine or whatever

carrick certainly seemed like he was going to be replaced in the summer
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 07, 2011, 03:15:26 pm
Beaten fair and square. My only comment is Carragher should've seen a straight red the dirty twat. Dowd would've lost control of the game had it not been so close to halftime.

Some players get a free pass when it comes to violent conduct (Carragher) and some get a card for looking at someone funny (Scholes)

Run in to end of season very interesting.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 07, 2011, 06:44:51 pm
I'll avoid any non-football commentary on Celtic-Rangers , but I though this was awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCAN_F-nPC8&feature=related
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2011, 11:06:16 am
There is nothing 'awsome' about the sectarianistic pigs in Glasgow. (both teams) they need to grow the fuck up and catch up with the oughties!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 08, 2011, 01:24:20 pm
20K people sang an entire Depeche Mode song after a goal and left the sectarianism out of it.

That is pretty awesome to me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2011, 02:53:33 pm
Smackie - if it's Celtic/Rangers there's always sectarianism.

I  chuckled when the kop singing happy birthday to Dalglish on Sunday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-12670175
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 08, 2011, 03:07:53 pm
i'm with frank here. awful people, i always play with hibs on fifa
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 08, 2011, 05:07:30 pm
The RVP sending off was the worst call I've ever seen....

One second.  Really?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2011, 05:25:13 pm
Smackie - the problem is what he did is a yellow card offense. Because he's on a yellow already the ref is now forced to decide if a yellow card offense is actually a red card offense (if that makes sense) Which is really unfair on the ref. The player committed the offense, not the ref.

When I center ref a game I always tell captains at the pre-game my decisions are based on face value so if they're on a yellow and earn another yellow they're getting one. It happened last week. I officiated a team of Argentines v Good Ol' Muurcan boys. The Argies stood on the ball at every free kick to prevent a quick restart. I warned them after what had to be the 5th time of doing this I was going to start dishing out cards. The captain of the Argie team ended up with two yellows and was incensed because he was under the impression it's part of the game. I asked him, "you mean like diving?" He also thought that was part of the game...moron!

BTW I was hoping for extra time at Nou Camp to wear Arse down even more for the weekend but that's not going to happen now. United very vunerable at the moment so we need all the help we can get.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 08, 2011, 05:29:44 pm
Smackie - the problem is what he did is a yellow card offense. Because he's on a yellow already the ref is now forced to decide if a yellow card offense is actually a red card offense (if that makes sense) Which is really unfair on the ref. The player committed the offense, not the ref.

When I center ref a game I always tell captains at the pre-game my decisions are based on face value so if they're on a yellow and earn another yellow they're getting one. It happened last week. I officiated a team of Argentines v Good Ol' Muurcan boys. The Argies stood on the ball at every free kick to prevent a quick restart. I warned them after what had to be the 5th time of doing this I was going to start dishing out cards. The captain of the Argie team ended up with two yellows and was incensed because he was under the impression it's part of the game. I asked him, "you mean like diving?" He also thought that was part of the game...moron!

BTW I was hoping for extra time at Nou Camp to wear Arse down even more for the weekend but that's not going to happen now. United very vunerable at the moment so we need all the help we can get.

Were there 70K people in the stands whistling and yelling at the match you were officiating?

I've seen a lot of time wasting offenses in my day, and that was not one of them.  Ruined what was an otherwise entertaining match - I doubt he gets another match this tournament.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2011, 05:50:56 pm
I'm not watching the game so can't speak for the noise factor. Were the fans stood in the way of the AR with his flag up?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 08, 2011, 06:13:09 pm
I can't believe I've been having this conversation with you and you didn't even see the play.

Actually, yes I can, and that's why I love you.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2011, 06:52:39 pm
My initial point was simply that two yellows make a red, regardless of what the second offense is for. The two yellow card offenses are irrelevant. If you read my initial reply you will see I didn't mention anything about what RVP actually did.

I wasn't commenting on that actual incident, more on the fact that many players think because they're on a yellow they can get away with much more before receiving the second, which sometimes is, but never should be the case.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2011, 08:05:51 pm
I was just thinking....were Arsenal killing the clock a lot? The ref may have warned them collectively as a team to stop it and when RVP shot after the call was flagged offside just said "FUCK IT" and penalized that next time killing incident.

Sometimes a ref will show someone a yellow without realizing they were already on one. Once you've got the card out you can't put it back in your pocket.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 08, 2011, 11:40:38 pm
Actually, Van Persie was facing the assistant referee when he got the ball. It was a stupid yellow card, but a yellow card, did he forget he had already a yellow card? Whether the main referee could have avoided it? Debatable, I think Van Persie was out of his mind in the first half and with 1-1 he delibertely went to lose time knowing the flag was up. Not a bright decision from Van Persie.

By the way, there was a penalty and an (unfarily) disallowed goal for Barcelona in the first game and I believe a penalty today in the first half. Guardiola did not complain after the first game, what Wenger did today is not good, Arsenal never shot to the goal today, to say that with Van Persie they would have won the game, sad comment, mourinho-style.

Intersting story about the game with the argentineans.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 09, 2011, 10:49:53 am
Hi there Barcelona - Haven't seen you in this neighbourhood for a while. I think the Champions League is Barcas to lose at this point. There's no other team in the world right now that can come close to them in my opinion.

Getting back to the red....just what I suspected. RVP must've seen the flag up as he was facing the AR, plus he put no real effort into the 'shot on goal'. His body language after the fact is an admission of guilt. A tough yellow but a yellow offense nonetheless. If it was his first yellow then we wouldn't be having this discussion, but should he get away with it just because it's his second yellow card offense???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 09, 2011, 11:48:15 am
yes he should

ref could have easily given him a lecture and added an extra minute on. then its a nonstory
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 09, 2011, 12:01:23 pm


*quote*
The referee is in charge. It is his responsibility to ensure that the game is played within the rules and without diminishing the competitiveness of the contest, i.e. that game is allowed to flow whenever possible. He should be fully aware of the rules of the game and be able to apply them wherever and whenever necessary.
*unquote*


RVP stopped the game from flowing by kicking the ball away after a stoppage in play. The player is responsible for the yellow card, not the official.



Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 09, 2011, 12:09:05 pm
Now this......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/9419995.stm

....is fucking retarded.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on March 09, 2011, 01:35:56 pm
unfortunately due to people like Gallagher thinking that you have to enforce to the letter of the law you get these sort of ridiculous decisions that make the referee the center of the game and not the game itself...


what they don't ever seem to realize is that the referee has DISCRETION.

this ref did no one any favors


by the way: thanks for your gratuitous Argentina bashing you lemming.. you should never paint everyone with the same brushstroke or don't you know?

Henry is a "class act" though he is a diver emeritus or watch Spain-France 2006 where he dove outside the box, got France the free kick and they went on to win.. or watch his multiple handballs against Ireland in WC qualifying.. but Argentina, no man they are all cheaters and divers..


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 09, 2011, 02:54:10 pm
de jong breaks ben arfa's leg and its not even a free kick, yet maybe not hearing the whistle its an automatic yellow? no way. time wasting is the easiest foul to correct without a card
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 09, 2011, 03:09:38 pm
Notice that the two people who think it was a good call are (1) named Barcelona and (2) someone who never saw the play.

Any neutral observer knows it was a horrible decision and I have yet to see any neutral observer who's seen it argue otherwise.

Either way, Barcelona were the MUCH better squad and deserved to go through.   
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 10, 2011, 12:10:23 pm
I've seen the play numerous times actually... ever heard of a cool little website called 'yootoob' or something like that? You should check it out sometime smackie.

Hutch...get over yourself. The whole world knows that the south american game is full of 'gamesmanship' (aka cheating) it's not just Argentina. I would say Brasil are bigger culprits than Argentina, and if it's one team that doesn't need to cheat to win....it's Brasil.

Nobody knows what was said between the official and the players and that's what you lot don't seem to understand that's all I'm trying to say. How do we know he hadn't already warned them the the next time-wasting antic will result in a card? RVP committed the offense, not the official.

I'm over this already.... I'll never agree that it was a 'horrible' decision and Hutch will never admit that Argentina are a bunch of diving, clock killing when they're up a goal, cheaters...  :-*

It was harsh, and I've already said that, but it was still RVP's fault.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on March 11, 2011, 05:35:19 pm
just found out Fios is unblocking Fox Soccer this weekend... gonna have to see if anything good is on.


Fox Soccer Plus Free Preview
Fox Soccer Plus delivers exclusive soccer and rugby matches from the best leagues in the world including Barclays Premier League and the UEFA Champions League. Check out the Fox Soccer Plus free preview now through March 13th.
Tune in on channel 1009
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 11, 2011, 05:52:52 pm
what an awful weekend for a free preview. good news that the plus is available though, even if its not in hd
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on March 11, 2011, 06:09:39 pm
what an awful weekend for a free preview.

probably explains why they chose this weekend.

for a casual fan like myself there are a few decent choices, mostly replays: 'pool/ManU, ManU/arse, Man city/reading, some Serie A like roma/lazio... could be worse.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 12, 2011, 11:00:53 am
haha and of course the first match of the weekend was awesome. of course i'm now watching hanover/bayren at 10 on a saturday
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 14, 2011, 10:27:06 am
A great weekend for manc.......

Saturday I got to enjoy Man Utd beat Arse (lousy couple of weeks for them eh? Bounced out of League cup, Champs league and now FA cup)

Sunday got to watch live England v Scotland in the 6 nations.
Remember where you heard it first......rugby is about to grow enormously in the USA. I think it's been a college sport long enough to have fans of all ages now, and it seems little rugby clubs are popping up everywhere.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 14, 2011, 10:48:58 am
rugby does have more of a buzz recently. helps to have the six nations on a channel more people get versus setanta. i havent watched any of it though. apparently ireland have been shite
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 14, 2011, 11:30:45 am
*Evidently Ireland cheated to beat Wales on Sat..... England were 'supposed' to crush Scotland but that didn't happen either. They won, but it was much closer than everyone expected.

The big surprise was Italy beat France. Italy are still in rugby infancy so it was a huge win for them.

*When the ball goes for a line-out (throw-in) you can take a quick restart but must use the same ball that went out of play. Ireland did a quick restart with a different ball. That restart resulted in the winning try.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 14, 2011, 01:54:17 pm
A great weekend for manc.......

Saturday I got to enjoy Man Utd beat Arse (lousy couple of weeks for them eh? Bounced out of League cup, Champs league and now FA cup)

Incredibly deflating loss on Saturday to add to the misery.  You have to think that when Wenger saw the Twins and O'Shea in the midfield that his chances of advancing were good....

Now he's been bounced from three Cup Tourney's and lost another central defender, this time maybe for the season.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 14, 2011, 01:54:27 pm
Remember where you heard it first......rugby is about to grow enormously in the USA.

You mean in last month's Economist?

Rugby in America
Worth a try
More and more Americans are being converted to the sport
Feb 3rd 2011 | SAN FRANCISCO | from the print edition


THIS weekend tens of millions of eyes will be glued to television screens as the Pittsburgh Steelers meet the Green Bay Packers in the Super Bowl, which takes place in Arlington, Texas on February 6th. American aficionados of rugby union can only dream of the Croesian sums of money that are lavished on American football, a sport that vaguely resembles rugby in wimpish armour-plating. But although their resources are far more modest they have achieved some notable successes.

One of them has been to get young Americans engaged with the game. Last year almost 360,000 children played a non-contact form of the sport at school, according to USA Rugby, the sport?s national governing body. That has helped raise rugby?s profile: a study by America?s Sporting Goods Manufacturers Association (SGMA) found that between 2007 and 2009 (the latest year for which data is available), it was the fastest-growing team sport in the country, outpacing rivals such as lacrosse and hockey. In 2009, says the SGMA, some 750,000 Americans played rugby, over 20% more than in 2007. ?For the sport to be on our radar screen is a sign it?s got some legs,? says Mike May, an executive at the association.

To bolster the game?s appeal, USA Rugby is launching a college premier league next month that will see teams compete in four regional ?conferences?, with the top two from each conference heading to playoffs in May. The league?s promoters hope it will act as a magnet for high-school players, as well as introducing rugby to more students. ?This represents an enormously powerful opportunity to promote rugby,? says Bill Campbell, an enthusiastic supporter of the game who happens to be chairman of Intuit, a technology giant.

The sport in America also stands to gain from the fact that a seven-a-side version of rugby (as opposed to the standard 15-a-side contest) will be included in the 2016 and perhaps the 2020 Olympic games. The last time rugby featured in the Olympics, back in 1924, America won the gold medal. Although a repeat performance is unlikely in five years? time in Rio de Janeiro, the prospect of representing the USA Eagles, as the national team is known, should attract more athletes to the game. Some impressive players already compete in an annual super league competition, which includes teams from some of America?s 2,400-odd rugby clubs.

The notion of Olympic rugby has certainly piqued the interest of television executives. Long the preserve of cable channels, rugby is about to appear on network TV. NBC has acquired the rights to show games from this year?s rugby World Cup and the next one in 2015. And it is planning to broadcast other matches too, including some from an international rugby sevens tournament taking place in Las Vegas later this month.

Those responsible for promoting rugby in America are confident that when more people see it, they will love it. ?Americans like combat sports and good athletes,? says Nigel Melville, the head of USA Rugby. True. Yet they also have a penchant for sports that promote superstars and breed controversy, both on and off the field. With its emphasis on teamwork and fair play, rugby doesn?t quite fit that mould.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on March 14, 2011, 02:46:43 pm
You got your countries mixed up - Ireland lost....

*Evidently Ireland cheated to beat Wales on Sat..... England were 'supposed' to crush Scotland but that didn't happen either. They won, but it was much closer than everyone expected.

The big surprise was Italy beat France. Italy are still in rugby infancy so it was a huge win for them.

*When the ball goes for a line-out (throw-in) you can take a quick restart but must use the same ball that went out of play. Ireland did a quick restart with a different ball. That restart resulted in the winning try.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 14, 2011, 03:34:28 pm
You got your countries mixed up - Ireland lost....

*Evidently Ireland cheated to beat Wales on Sat..... England were 'supposed' to crush Scotland but that didn't happen either. They won, but it was much closer than everyone expected.

The big surprise was Italy beat France. Italy are still in rugby infancy so it was a huge win for them.

*When the ball goes for a line-out (throw-in) you can take a quick restart but must use the same ball that went out of play. Ireland did a quick restart with a different ball. That restart resulted in the winning try.

You didn't watch the Eng/Sco game on BBC America by chance?? They said Ireland won from the dodgy lineout.....I saw the try from the corner of my eye and thought it was a 'red' player crossing the line but just assumed I hadn't seen it right.....how can commentators get it so wrong? Then again, if you saw the pre-game it makes sense. The panel were terrible.

Poor Irish - first Henry and now this. Whatever happened to "the luck of....."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 14, 2011, 04:27:35 pm
hey smackie, where's the best place to watch some footie in vegas
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 14, 2011, 05:12:40 pm
hey smackie, where's the best place to watch some footie in vegas

The best place for atmosphere is The Crown and Anchor (http://www.crownandanchorlv.com/), about 3-4 blocks off the strip on Tropicana.

I've also stumbled out of Sugars at 4am to watch a match and saw it at McMullans.  It's a nicer place, but not the same atmosphere.  It's across from the Orleans, also on Tropicana.

The last two times I've been there, the matches have been on in the sportsbook, despite the book being closed.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 15, 2011, 05:54:49 pm
Sweet Jayzus - they do make it exciting don't they?

I would say our march through Europe continues but it's more of a limp at the moment.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 16, 2011, 12:14:13 pm
Sweet Jayzus - they do make it exciting don't they?

I would say our march through Europe continues but it's more of a limp at the moment.


If you didn't spend the last 10 minutes of the match thinking all about last year, you're a better man than me.

The Bayern-Inter match was highly entertaining all the way through out. As I told shoeshine, I'd pay 35m pounds for Sneidjer, and that's just for sex!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 16, 2011, 12:23:55 pm
Sweet Jayzus - they do make it exciting don't they?

I would say our march through Europe continues but it's more of a limp at the moment.


If you didn't spend the last 10 minutes of the match thinking all about last year, you're a better man than me.

The Bayern-Inter match was highly entertaining all the way through out. As I told shoeshine, I'd pay 35m pounds for Sneidjer, and that's just for sex!

I  had visions of Porto 2009 all over again.

35M for sex with Sneidjer? I bet you could get him for 10M...... the other 25M would be to get him at OT!!!!

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 16, 2011, 12:33:17 pm
30m doesnt get you laid in today's football market

five game band for fergie (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6817025,00.html)
i am shocked
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 16, 2011, 12:38:03 pm
also abidal has cancer (http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/soccer/general/view/20110316eric_abidal_to_undergo_surgery_for_liver_tumor_thursday/srvc=home&position=recent) :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 16, 2011, 12:42:41 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/12759530.stm

So does Robson......

I'm not surprised at the SAF ban - FA based in London. 10 games +- to end of season. Arse on coat tales of United. Fergie gets lengthy ban....coincidence?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 16, 2011, 01:03:01 pm
i'd put both in the "big clubs that get favorable treatment" pot
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 16, 2011, 01:09:38 pm
Fergie was on probation with a suspended 2-3 game ban pending good behaviour.  I'm not surprised at all that he got 5 games (previous suspension plus new games).

What sucks is that that comments were made to United's own closed TV network - MUTV - talk about shooting yourself in the foot!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 16, 2011, 02:31:44 pm
Not when it comes to the FA Shoeshine - FA = London clubs only.

I think managers should be able to criticize officials as long as it's not a personal attack. When he called one ref too fat to officiate at this level he crossed the line. I don't find anything wrong with his comments about Atkinson. It was his opinion and he expressed them in a professional manner, AND you had to visit manutd.com to hear them initially. Everyone who saw the game that is not a chelski fan knows it was also the truth. I can't recall another game where an official has been so biased in favor of one team over another.


And they wonder why SAF won't talk to the media.




Here's another lame-arse misconduct charge. Some refs and the FA need to grow a pair and man-up...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/9427076.stm
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 16, 2011, 04:01:06 pm
i cant agree with that. i'm sure your favorite team is going to skate on the carroll poaching charge
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 16, 2011, 04:58:39 pm
i cant agree with that. i'm sure your favorite team is going to skate on the carroll poaching charge

You are missing one very important detail - Two northern teams so the FA couldn't give a toss.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 16, 2011, 07:27:20 pm
if newcastle took from bolton or vice versa, they'd bring the hammer down. if 'pool took from wet spam they'd still skate
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on March 17, 2011, 10:28:49 am
Quote
D.C. United manager Ben Olsen will serve free half-smokes to anyone wearing a United jersey at Ben?s Chili Bowl from 6 to 7 p.m. tonight (DC United Season kicks off this weekend, btw)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2011, 10:51:08 am
Anyone in a DC united jersey is already half smoked!!! *ba-dum...ching*

Thank you, thank you.....I'll be here all week. Tip your waitstaff!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 17, 2011, 11:50:12 am
Among my favorite tweets of the week:

@ManUtd24: Fabio on for Rafael. Never has the phrase 'like-for-like' been more apt.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2011, 01:18:59 pm
I chuckled when the commentators on Saturday said "They could switch shirts at half time and nobody would know'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2011, 01:29:37 pm
Quote
D.C. United manager Ben Olsen will serve free half-smokes to anyone wearing a United jersey at Ben?s Chili Bowl from 6 to 7 p.m. tonight (DC United Season kicks off this weekend, btw)
sweet! i have an olsen shirtsey
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 17, 2011, 02:44:44 pm
I chuckled when the commentators on Saturday said "They could switch shirts at half time and nobody would know'

I remember Fergie joking in a press conference when Rafael was suspended that he'd just run him out there in Fabio's jersey and nobody would know the difference.

How about this brilliance:

http://www.twitvid.com/AHCJ1

I'm so glad he doesn't play for United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2011, 03:00:09 pm
Thanks smackie.....genius! And I'm not talking about bibotelli!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzkresBOxnQ&feature=player_embedded#at=11

You have heard this ballad before I hope? (video a bit dated but lyrics timeless)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2011, 03:08:05 pm
I chuckled when the commentators on Saturday said "They could switch shirts at half time and nobody would know'

I remember Fergie joking in a press conference when Rafael was suspended that he'd just run him out there in Fabio's jersey and nobody would know the difference.

How about this brilliance:

http://www.twitvid.com/AHCJ1

I'm so glad he doesn't play for United.
wow. that video hurt my head
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 17, 2011, 03:30:09 pm
It only gets worse for him...

(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2011/0317/mariobalotellioffvdynamo20110317_576x324.jpg)

At least we don't have to watch him exchange jerseys after the game...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2011, 03:40:46 pm
you know i thought that video was going to be for the card, but got so thrown by the bib that i forgot
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 17, 2011, 03:43:07 pm
you know i thought that video was going to be for the card, but got so thrown by the bib that i forgot

The card probably was for the bib!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2011, 04:41:51 pm
(http://www.recyclethis.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/floppy_disc250.jpg)

Manchester City's European campaign now available on video!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 18, 2011, 09:57:47 am
This weekend only - buy the Man City European campaign video and get the Liverpool one free. Both available on the same floppy..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 18, 2011, 10:10:05 am
Inter Milan v Schalke - Inter
Real Madrid v Tottenham - Spurs
Wednesday, 6 April 2011
Barcelona v Shakhtar Donetsk - Barca
Chelsea v Man Utd, - United

I think Spurs are the sleeper team with 'arry at the helm.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 18, 2011, 10:16:58 am
in honor of st patricks day i became a fan of leon best on facebook

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 18, 2011, 11:36:26 am
Osman or Best???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 18, 2011, 11:59:30 am
Joe Jordon got a 1 game suspension by UEFA for getting head butted by Gattuso!

UEFA has gone stark raving fucking mad I tell ya!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on March 18, 2011, 12:28:29 pm
Joe Jordon got a 1 game suspension by UEFA for getting head butted by Gattuso!

so gattuso did learn something from zidane...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 18, 2011, 02:45:30 pm
joe jordan has no place yelling at opposing players. i'm with uefa here
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 18, 2011, 02:54:33 pm
joe jordan has no place yelling at opposing players. i'm with uefa here

A Joe Jordon yell is probably more painful than a kick in the nuts from many others so you have a point.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 20, 2011, 12:52:51 am
Good for Charlie Davies.....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/soccer-insider/post/video-charlie-davies-second-goal/2011/03/19/ABCKhux_blog.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 21, 2011, 11:09:58 am
bad for stuart holden

usmnt cant have nice things
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 21, 2011, 11:28:29 am
....and Toon!  :o
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 21, 2011, 11:54:18 am
heh

knew it was going to be awful once i saw the starting line up. vomitted once i realized it was 3-5-2 and was over it after the second goal

for whatever reason every match against stoke since they came up has been shocking
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 21, 2011, 12:18:33 pm
The relegation battle is as exciting as the one at the other end...if not more so. There's at least 10 teams who can still go down really.

Johnny Evans - red card?...discuss;
I think no gashed knee - no red, and either player could've got injured in the challenge. very unfortunate as there was no intent but studs definately up. So probably the correct call.

Penalty?...discuss;
I don't hear the Man Utd haters making jokes about refs on the payroll now. That is probably the most definate stonewall penalty that's not been given all season. It was for United at OT too!!!!  Deliberate? Debatable. Arm in a natural position? absofuckinlutely not! No other decision than a penalty.


I didn't even watch Chelski v Shitty...two boring teams with Italian managers so I figured I can watch Serie A anytime really. Probably a good result for United but I was hoping they'd both lose.  :-\
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 21, 2011, 05:07:18 pm
Johnny Evans - red card?...discuss;
I think no gashed knee - no red, and either player could've got injured in the challenge. very unfortunate as there was no intent but studs definately up. So probably the correct call.

It was the correct call, but it was nowhere near as bad as Carragher's tackle on Nani.  Jonny was bit unlucky as the ball helped raise his studs, but unlike Carragher, he at least got the ball.  I would like a little more consistency in the officiating - both should have seen red in my eyes.

Penalty?...discuss;
I don't hear the Man Utd haters making jokes about refs on the payroll now. That is probably the most definate stonewall penalty that's not been given all season. It was for United at OT too!!!!  Deliberate? Debatable. Arm in a natural position? absofuckinlutely not! No other decision than a penalty.

Agreed.  Even the announcers were defending it, but that ball was heading for the net and his raised arm deflected it away from the net.  We're not talking about an arm on the side of a body here - that was clearly a raised arm.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on March 22, 2011, 02:43:11 am
who are the man u haters?  ::)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 22, 2011, 11:08:13 am
who are the man u haters?  ::)

They know who they are, and the  jealousy is just eating them up.

"Don't hate us just because we're better than you"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 24, 2011, 12:24:05 pm
Scumbag Terry reinstated as England captain...discuss;

Personally I don't give a rats how or what the England team does until the Italian idiot is gone. that was the last straw for me. I'm starting a one man campaign to get 'Arry Rednap' as the new gaffer. Political correctness caused England to miss out on probably the best candidate ever as England manager years ago. (Brian Clough) and it's been a disaster ever since.

How can you take away the armband, 'permanently' as he said himself, only to reinstate him a year later, then hope to retain some kind of credibility? The fact the team are saying there's no divide in the camp means there is a huge divide within the England camp.

I was hoping Wales would beat us on Saturday to expedite Capellos departure but Bale is out so that is very unlikely I'm afraid.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 24, 2011, 12:49:26 pm
no idea where fabio comes up with these squad decisions. how does a side with so many disappointing campaigns in a row have so few good players under 30
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 24, 2011, 01:19:13 pm
So you have the English game which is old school attack attack attack and hire a manager from the country who's style is defend defend defend and wonder why the shit don't work?

HELLOOOOO?????
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: walkonby on March 24, 2011, 01:26:46 pm
So you have the English game which is old school attack attack attack and hire a manager from the country who's style is defend defend defend and wonder why the shit don't work?

HELLOOOOO?????


(http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/myspace-graphics/funny-pictures/mad-dog.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 24, 2011, 01:38:14 pm



When I was in school the teachers had what was called the idiot test. They would inform us to not bang our  desk tops down or something like that. Needless to say some little comedian would bang their desk top down extra hard......the teacher would then congratulate them on passing the idiot test..

Walkon - Congratulations!! You just passed the idiot test with honors!!!!


 ::)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: walkonby on March 24, 2011, 01:48:53 pm



When I was in school the teachers had what was called the idiot test. They would inform us to not bang our  desk tops down or something like that. Needless to say some little comedian would bang their desk top down extra hard......the teacher would then congratulate them on passing the idiot test..

Walkon - Congratulations!! You just passed the idiot test with honors!!!!


 ::)


(http://www.celticmusic.org/images/Irish_Drinking_Songs_Cat_Companion-400.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 24, 2011, 01:53:41 pm
You should never give milk to a cat.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: imbecile on March 29, 2011, 09:12:22 am
Not sure how much everyone cares about off-season friendlies, but DC United just informed me that:

FC Barcelona vs. Manchester United
FedEx Field
Saturday, July 30th

oh, and it's included in DC United season ticket plans with priority seating for all you season ticket holders, which i'm sure there are many..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 29, 2011, 09:25:51 am
think we mentioned that a few pages back.  i'm going to try to go
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 29, 2011, 09:36:11 am
Nice to know they aren't coming to FL yet again...even though the fucking owners live in West Palm Beach and own a fucking stadium in Tampa. (I'm swearing a lot this morning, I must not have been given decaf or something)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 29, 2011, 11:59:05 am
Does anyone know how much tickets will be?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 29, 2011, 12:19:42 pm
I'll be in Chicago for the July 23-24 match.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 29, 2011, 01:55:07 pm
GUESS WHO ELSE IS TOURING THE STATES
http://www.epltalk.com/newcastle-united-coming-to-united-states-for-2011-summer-tour-30323

6 hours to columbus...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 01, 2011, 08:16:42 am
leon best likely out for the year

cant make this stuff up

i say that a lot

ugh
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on April 01, 2011, 11:30:59 am
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/portugal-sells-ronaldo-to-spain-in-8364160m-deal-on-national-debt-2258903.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2011, 01:21:21 pm
leon best likely out for the year

cant make this stuff up

i say that a lot

ugh

In other not so shocking news....so is Louis Saha.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 01, 2011, 01:37:23 pm
leon best likely out for the year

cant make this stuff up

i say that a lot

ugh

In other not so shocking news....so is Louis Saha.

If I was Everton I'd try to return him as a defective product.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 01, 2011, 02:29:16 pm
yeah but cahill is better than nolan

and they cant play nolan behind the striker because tiote is suspended
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 01, 2011, 03:42:31 pm
Morono wants Chicarito at RM next season....Good luck with that one!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2011, 04:26:49 pm
Morono wants Chicarito at RM next season....Good luck with that one!

Who doesn't?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 01, 2011, 04:59:21 pm
I'm not so sure Rooney will still be at OT after the summer.

Just a feeling in my gut.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 04, 2011, 10:18:13 am
Well.....a good weekend all round really.  :)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 04, 2011, 10:50:42 am
agreed

i have to give some credit to kevin nolan. we'd be lost without his goals. and he has more in the league than torres. captain tugboat has become a term of endearment
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 04, 2011, 11:37:32 am
agreed

i have to give some credit to kevin nolan. we'd be lost without his goals. and he has more in the league than torres. captain tugboat has become a term of endearment

Torres? Who's this Torres you speak of?  ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 04, 2011, 11:42:37 am
you know. short, american, plays for pachuca  ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 04, 2011, 02:42:23 pm
almost wish rooney would have got off. even if he doesnt play against the toon, lil pea is scary enough
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 04, 2011, 03:03:28 pm
A 2 game suspension for dropping the F-bomb? Especially under those circumstances coming from 2 -goals down at half time....The FA don't even try to mask their anti-Man Utd bias anymore. If I was Rooney, and Ferdinand for that matter after the way Capello treated him, I'd tell England and the FA to go fuck themselves.


...but I suppose at that level, the ego-stroke of playing for your country is too much to resist.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 04, 2011, 03:13:29 pm
well, drogba got a similar ban in the past

but alan smith used to get caught every single game
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 04, 2011, 04:35:56 pm
My 8 year old son said to me on Saturday...."OOOOOH Terry just said the F-word dad" Were's his fucking ban? This is crazy banning MEN for swearing. Why don't they just castrate them when they turn professional and be done with it?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on April 04, 2011, 09:19:14 pm
My 8 year old son said to me on Saturday...."OOOOOH Terry just said the F-word dad" Were's his fucking ban? This is crazy banning MEN for swearing. Why don't they just castrate them when they turn professional and be done with it?


so you think its manly to curse?

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 05, 2011, 09:39:19 am
My 8 year old son said to me on Saturday...."OOOOOH Terry just said the F-word dad" Were's his fucking ban? This is crazy banning MEN for swearing. Why don't they just castrate them when they turn professional and be done with it?


so you think its manly to curse?



It doesn't make you a man to curse but men do curse (as do women).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 06, 2011, 09:34:04 am
Right then, Shalke and RM go through!!!

2-1 for United this afternoon. Even the law of averages is on our side at this point, and it won't be an English ref so he should be reasonably unbiased.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 06, 2011, 12:29:28 pm
(1) Spurs were downright embarrassing.  Said my spurs fan friend "we were all just so excited to have made the top 8 that we felt we were living on borrowed time.  Now, after that embarrassment, people will know we didn't belong here." 

(2) The clear difference between cursing on the pitch a la Terry/Smith and what Rooney did, was Rooney stared right into the camera and directed his curse to the people.  I don't think it's a two match ban, but I could understand a one match ban. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 06, 2011, 07:13:30 pm
ADVANTAGE UNITED!!!  ;D

TORRES WERE ARE YOU....TORRES WERE ARE YOU.... :P
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 07, 2011, 03:56:50 pm
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20110407/video/vhd-can-these-anti-diving-shin-pads-stop-686f718.html

Chelski are fucked!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 11, 2011, 08:11:02 am
liverpool to bid 15m for jose enrique. i love the guy but that's way too much
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 11, 2011, 09:31:09 am
liverpool to bid 15m for jose enrique. i love the guy but that's way too much

Isnt' he a singer?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 11, 2011, 09:50:51 am
yes and he uses fabio for his album covers
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 11, 2011, 11:45:13 am
Which one?

Man Utd or Can't believe it's not butter?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 11, 2011, 11:48:38 am
the one that shops at bebe
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 11, 2011, 11:58:48 am
Ah, the one that drives an ASTON and just bought a new VILLA??

 :P
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 11, 2011, 02:50:23 pm
Kroenke just finished his purchase of Arsenal.  Utd, Villa, Fulham, Liverpool and now Arsenal.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 11, 2011, 02:59:54 pm
USA USA USA
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 11, 2011, 03:22:46 pm
I see cheerleaders on the sidelines and "this portion of the game brought to you by Charmin, the official toilet paper of the EPL" in our future if this bollocks carries on.

Not to mention 'time outs' and 'quarters' instead of halves.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 11, 2011, 04:05:43 pm
newcastle has been linked with vince mcmahon in the past. spurs with dan snyder
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 11, 2011, 05:08:44 pm
3-0!!!! And Tevez injured...is it bad? (God I hope so - but only for football reasons)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 12, 2011, 11:41:49 am
I call BULLSHIT on the Tevez 'injury'. He'll be playing on Saturday.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 12, 2011, 04:46:08 pm
Park with the left? Just ridiculous....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 12, 2011, 04:55:35 pm
In the interest of good sportsmanship and the 'respect' program, may I just say....


SHOVE IT UP YOUR ARSE TERRY....I HOPE YOUR TAMPON DOESN'T SLIP OUT IN THE LOCKER ROOM....FUCK YOU AND YOUR FELLOW STAMFORD BRIDGE PRICKS....FULHAM MAY HAVE PAID A LOT FOR MICHAEL JACKSONS STATUE BUT THE RUSSIAN IDIOT PAID 50MILLION QUID FOR HIS!!!!!!!


good game...good game....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 12, 2011, 05:22:00 pm
I may or may not have overheard the following chant after Terry's yellow card:

Could have won the cup
But he fucked it up
Viva John Terry

And my favorite text sent to me during the match:

"don't want to be unsportsmanlike but i hope drogba's malaria flares up"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 12, 2011, 05:33:17 pm
My favorite quote from the BBC

United's midfield tighter than a fat mans hatband
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 14, 2011, 08:49:25 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13044404.stm

Evidently manc is completely full of shit! (shocker right???)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 14, 2011, 02:33:20 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13044404.stm

Evidently manc is completely full of shit! (shocker right???)

Had he limped off when the game was out of reach, I would have agreed that it was gamesmanship.

But he grabbed his hammy in the first 20 minutes, when the score was nil-nil, and then came off down only one goal very early on.  I was pretty sure it was legit.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 15, 2011, 09:23:09 am
couldnt you guys have got knocked out of the fa cup so we could have a match this weekend? some nerve

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 15, 2011, 11:22:29 am
couldnt you guys have got knocked out of the fa cup so we could have a match this weekend? some nerve



Maybe if you lot weren't knocked out we'd be playing you tomorrow!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 15, 2011, 11:51:18 am
newcastle still in a cup after january? now i know youre joking
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 15, 2011, 12:21:01 pm
newcastle still in a cup after january? now i know youre joking

man Shitty in one so miracles do happen.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2011, 09:35:05 am
Have to be honest....I'm not really all that bothered about the FA cup for some reason. But I have ordered my Stoke City jersey though!!!  ;D

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 18, 2011, 11:47:35 am
shit vs poop final in my opinion
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2011, 12:15:56 pm
It would just be incredible if Stoke won it!!! Worth losing to them so they could lose the final.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on April 18, 2011, 12:19:20 pm
It would just be incredible if Stoke won it!!! Worth losing to them so they could win the final.....


Only a loser like Gallagher wants his own team to lose.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2011, 12:38:57 pm
It would just be incredible if Stoke won it!!! Worth losing to them so they could win the final.....


Only a loser like Gallagher wants his own team to lose.

If I wanted shit from you I would've squeezed your head. You obviously have no idea about team rivalry over there so please do your research before making a complete arse of yourself...ooops! Too late..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 18, 2011, 12:43:34 pm
i 'm pretty sure i hate stoke more than man shitty.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on April 18, 2011, 01:11:34 pm
It would just be incredible if Stoke won it!!! Worth losing to them so they could win the final.....


Only a loser like Gallagher wants his own team to lose.

If I wanted shit from you I would've squeezed your head. You obviously have no idea about team rivalry over there so please do your research before making a complete arse of yourself...ooops! Too late..


Dude, you said you didn't mind losing.. thats a loser mentality. QED
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2011, 01:18:18 pm
I really don't 'hate' shitty, I don't think many manc-born man utd fans do really. They're just as SAF so poetically put it, the noisey neighbours.

Utd/City is a bit like the Scottish/English relationship. They fucking despise us with a passion and we barely acknowledge their existence.

I've always hated pikeypool, because they're, well, pikeypool. (btw - karma is a bitch eh Carragher) and more recently Chelksi because they are 100% guilty of what United have always been falsely accused of. So are city since the buyout mind. I used to hate Arsenal but have mellowed on them because they do play attractive football and Wenger is very much like SAF and will always back his players up so I have respect for the bloke.  They are frustrating to watch though,and I find myself yelling SHOOT SHOOT, JUST SHOOT THE FUCKING BALL! while watching them play.


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 19, 2011, 05:49:18 pm
Title race not quite over then.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 19, 2011, 09:38:47 pm
i have no idea how that went goalless
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 20, 2011, 08:34:50 am
haha, i see he-who-will-not-be-named had his feelings hurt by all the booing. i'm just surprised he has feelings
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 20, 2011, 09:30:06 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/danwalker/2011/04/headline.html

Evidently Gary Neville is an estate agent!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 20, 2011, 09:41:39 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12920379
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on April 21, 2011, 10:55:46 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13155922

lol.  lots of one-liners will come from this one, i'm sure...

(apparently the cup is fine: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/909718/clumsy-sergio-ramos-insists-cup-is-in-good-shape)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 21, 2011, 10:57:00 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13155922

lol.  lots of one-liners will come from this one, i'm sure...

Would've been even funnier had the goalie dropped it...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on April 21, 2011, 10:59:13 am
oh those crazy welsh:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/909800/end-of-season-party-is-pain-in-the-backside
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 21, 2011, 11:21:01 am
oh those crazy welsh:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/909800/end-of-season-party-is-pain-in-the-backside

He went for the brown????  ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 22, 2011, 11:25:10 am
scott parker winning player of the year has at least assured me that end of the year awards are meaningless in places other than north america
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 22, 2011, 07:45:52 pm
Looks like QPR is coming up!  I'm so excited.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 25, 2011, 09:05:41 am
Looks like QPR is coming up!  I'm so excited.

Why? Not that I have anything against them, just interested in your affection for them.

I hope all the 'W' teams get relegated from the Premiership and not the 'B's....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 25, 2011, 09:08:41 am
agreed
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 25, 2011, 11:56:17 am
Meanwhile at the other end......and then there were two.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 25, 2011, 06:41:26 pm
Why? Not that I have anything against them, just interested in your affection for them.

Back in the 90's I saw QPR host Nottingham Forest and have always held a special place for both of them. 

I also so Millwall host Wolves on that trip and have similar sentiment for Wolves, less so for Millwall as time has gone on...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 26, 2011, 10:31:46 am
Ha!!! I have a warm and fuzzy place for West Ham because I had their kit when I was about 5 years old...I loved the claret with blue sleeves evidently, and Wolves because they played in my favourite color...orange. I don't like them anymore though because their manager is a douche of the highest order. Then of course Oldham Athletic because I used to go to their games as a kid when it was too dangerous to go to OT in the bad old days of hooliganism. Plus Oldham also played in tangerine, which was a very cool kit back in the day...  http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=7811047
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 26, 2011, 12:10:16 pm
yeah wolves play awful football. karl henry is one of my most hated players in the league
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 26, 2011, 01:10:33 pm
I have made no secret about my man crush for Wesley Sneijder.  I would love to see him at OT. 

Please, please, please make this happen....

Wesley Sneijder is a 25 million transfer target for Manchester United (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=806278&sec=transfers&cc=5739)

Every year I feel the need to bring this up:

Inter Milan midfielder Wesley Sneijder insists he is happy to stay at the San Siro despite being flattered to be linked with a "beautiful club" like Manchester United. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/912072/manchester-united-target-wesley-sneijder-?cc=5901)

Van Der Vaart had some nice things to say about Manchester in that article too...I'm just guessing he doesn't live any where near WHL.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 26, 2011, 01:16:36 pm
I have made no secret about my man crush for Wesley Sneijder.  I would love to see him at OT. 

Please, please, please make this happen....

Wesley Sneijder is a 25 million transfer target for Manchester United (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=806278&sec=transfers&cc=5739)

Every year I feel the need to bring this up:

Inter Milan midfielder Wesley Sneijder insists he is happy to stay at the San Siro despite being flattered to be linked with a "beautiful club" like Manchester United. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/912072/manchester-united-target-wesley-sneijder-?cc=5901)

Van Der Vaart had some nice things to say about Manchester in that article too...I'm just guessing he doesn't live any where near WHL.

Van Der fart obviously doesn't know about the trains and busses that make their way from London to Manc every Friday for the club scene there!!!!!

My gut is the Sneijder deal is already done at OT, or close to it.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 26, 2011, 01:30:30 pm
My gut is the Sneijder deal is already done at OT, or close to it.....

I hope you're right on this one. 

And wrong on Rooney, but I fear you're right there too.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 26, 2011, 02:42:01 pm
i would be shocked if man u doesnt buy at least one big name midfielder in the summer

heard a rumor from a so/so source that saf is trying to move berbatov tyneside
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 26, 2011, 03:31:28 pm
I heard Spurs want him back........I'm still on the fence with him. Some of the stuff he does is just sublime, but his head seems to be in the game on and off. I think the bloke has ADD or something.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 26, 2011, 05:17:27 pm
Well....that should be two tickets to Wembley. .....unless we have a disaster next week.

 :)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 26, 2011, 06:32:36 pm
Well....that should be two tickets to Wembley. .....unless we have a disaster next week.

The second goal today sure allows us some flexibility ahead of the match at The Emirates and then Chelski at OT, that's for sure.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 26, 2011, 06:39:25 pm
Well....that should be two tickets to Wembley. .....unless we have a disaster next week.

The second goal today sure allows us some flexibility ahead of the match at The Emirates and then Chelski at OT, that's for sure.

Now Arse have choked (again) they can play a large part of being spoiler. If they beat us it gives Chelski some help but do Arse really want their London rivals to win the title again? If we beat Arse we can afford to lose to Chelski.

I'm not saying they would throw the game either way, but incentive is going to play a large role in how Arse perform I think.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 27, 2011, 04:07:40 pm
Favorite comment from the beeb....


Oh you have to give that at least a 5.8. Possibly a 5.9. There's contact - just - on Pepe by Javier Mascherano, but the Real defender makes the most of it and throws himself spectacularly through the air at an impressive height, pulling off a triple-pike-with-half-twist for good measure, before returning to earth with a quadruple roll. It does it's job, too, as Mascherano is booked. Theatrics.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 27, 2011, 06:13:23 pm
Mourinho is killing football. He needs to stop coaching, had never seen someone with so much hatred, he is passing it to his players. this needs to stop.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 27, 2011, 06:32:39 pm
Mourinho is killing football. He needs to stop coaching, had never seen someone with so much hatred, he is passing it to his players. this needs to stop.

I know.  I've never seen such hatred either.... (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/912312/pep-guardiola-launches-foul-mouthed-jose-mourinho-rant?cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 27, 2011, 06:37:54 pm
Mourinho is killing football. He needs to stop coaching, had never seen someone with so much hatred, he is passing it to his players. this needs to stop.

I know.  I've never seen such hatred either.... (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/912312/pep-guardiola-launches-foul-mouthed-jose-mourinho-rant?cc=5901)

Vansmarck, Guardiola has been silent all year long, but things have a limit. Mourinho has been like this since September, he has done a weak favor to football.  I predict that Mourinho won't have a place to coach in 5 years. he is killing his career, which is good for sport, but he is leaving a sad picture of what he brought to the game.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on April 28, 2011, 02:52:41 am
M E S S I

Mourinho until now has the results to back him.... a lot of results...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 28, 2011, 08:36:08 am
The 'special one' is probably the biggest con-man in the modern game. Give me a gazillion quid to spend on players to boost a team already full of quality players everytime I take a new coaching job and I'll bring you success.

I'd like to see him get a job with a team like Ipswich, and turn that around with their transfer kitty. That's coaching...

DOUCHE!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on April 28, 2011, 09:35:50 am
The 'special one' is probably the biggest con-man in the modern game. Give me a gazillion quid to spend on players to boost a team already full of quality players everytime I take a new coaching job and I'll bring you success.

I'd like to see him get a job with a team like Ipswich, and turn that around with their transfer kitty. That's coaching...

DOUCHE!!!


I don't like Mou one bit but even if he has had big and stacked teams he's still been largely effective in the big situations... also lets not forget he had to make his name somewhere at the beginning...His record with Porto was something else..
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 28, 2011, 09:47:12 am
i like his press conferences
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 28, 2011, 10:36:56 am
The 'special one' is probably the biggest con-man in the modern game. Give me a gazillion quid to spend on players to boost a team already full of quality players everytime I take a new coaching job and I'll bring you success.

I'd like to see him get a job with a team like Ipswich, and turn that around with their transfer kitty. That's coaching...

DOUCHE!!!


I don't like Mou one bit but even if he has had big and stacked teams he's still been largely effective in the big situations... also lets not forget he had to make his name somewhere at the beginning...His record with Porto was something else..

I agree, my point is he's not 'the special one'. He's just good, like all managers at the top level. (Except Benitez, Who is crap)
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Post by: vansmack on April 28, 2011, 02:21:17 pm
I find him much more entertaining than the style of football his teams on the pitch display.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 28, 2011, 02:24:23 pm
I find him much more entertaining than the style of football his teams on the pitch display.

But don't you think he just makes statements to make headlines sometimes? He's a media whore.

Morono or Guardiola to replace SAF???

I know who I would choose....Not even a contest.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 28, 2011, 02:31:31 pm
I find him much more entertaining than the style of football his teams on the pitch display.
ding ding
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Post by: Barcelona on April 28, 2011, 02:36:26 pm
The 'special one' is probably the biggest con-man in the modern game. Give me a gazillion quid to spend on players to boost a team already full of quality players everytime I take a new coaching job and I'll bring you success.

I'd like to see him get a job with a team like Ipswich, and turn that around with their transfer kitty. That's coaching...

DOUCHE!!!


I don't like Mou one bit but even if he has had big and stacked teams he's still been largely effective in the big situations... also lets not forget he had to make his name somewhere at the beginning...His record with Porto was something else..


Hutch, good that you mention Mourinho's days in oporto. after all his complains throughout the year the same things he complains about are starting to turn against him.

I believe you speak spanish, read this article from a newspaper in Madrid (as you can imagine, this newspaper is far from being a Bara fan, but it would seem that people in Madrid are starting to understand the harm Mourinho is inflicting to the reputation of Real Madrid).  To me, he is a decent coach (as Mankie said, take him to a smaller team and see what he does without the money he got in Chelsea, Madrid or Inter) and worse yet, he is far from being a good human being.

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2011/04/28/futbol/1303990139.html

La frgil memoria de Mourinho

'Ellos lloraron, pero los perjudicados fuimos nosotros', reflexionaba Irureta, tcnico del Deportivo (2004), tras caer en la semifinal ante el Oporto

Un gol en claro fuera de juego de Diego Milito en la ida de semifinales (2010) ante el Bara fue la clave para que los italianos ganaran la Champions

ELMUNDO.es | Madrid

Actualizado jueves 28/04/2011 18:19

"Guardiola es un fantstico entrenador de ftbol, que ha ganado una 'Champions' con el escndalo de Stamford Bridge, donde hubo cuatro penaltis que no se sealaron. Y si la gana ahora, ser con el escndalo del Bernabu, a m me dara vergenza ganarlas as. Le deseo que gane una Liga de Campeones blanca y brillante". As irrumpi Jos Mourinho, casi desencajado, en la rueda de prensa posterior al primer 'clsico' europeo. Haciendo gala de una 'blancura y brillantez' con la que no contaron ninguna de sus dos coronas continentales con el Oporto y el Inter de Miln.

Porque la memoria suele ser frgil en estos casos. Quizs fuera el dolor de la roja a Pepe -injusta o discutible, segn el bando- o quizs el sabor amargo de su primer revs europeo como entrenador del Real Madrid. El caso es que el tcnico portugus olvida cmo accedi a la final en su primera Champions con el Oporto. Cmo la gente de A Corua, igual que les pudo suceder a los seguidores del Chelsea, vivieron su particular pasin arbitral.

Aquel Deportivo recibi el carioso regalo del alemn Markus Merk en la ida en Portugal en forma de expulsin al central Andrade por una 'patada' cariosa a su amigo Deco en la recta final del partido. "He is my friend (Es mi amigo)", suplicaba sin xito el zaguero. En la vuelta, sin el sancionado Mauro Silva, que vio amarilla por protestar en Oporto, fue Pierluigi Collina el que dej al Depor con 10, a falta de 20 minutos, por la doble amarilla a Naybet. Antes, ya haba sealado un penalti, el que daba el pase a la final a los chicos de Mou, ms por pillera de Deco que por la entrada del defensa Csar.

"Dos expulsiones, Vctor lesionado, un penalti. Todo una estrategia que ha ido bien. Se quejaban del tema de los rbitros en la ida, pero a nosotros no nos han tratado con justicia. Hemos sido ms perjudicados. Ellos lloraron, pero los perjudicados fuimos nosotros". Es el resumen de Javier Irureta, entonces tcnico del Depor, de aquellas semifinales de 2004.

El 'suplicio' con el Inter
Puede que siete aos sean demasiado tiempo y ms en el vertiginoso mundo del ftbol. Pero an no se ha cumplido un ao del histrico ttulo del Inter de Miln. El juguete de Moratti al que Mourinho dio lustre gracias a Sneijder, Eto'o, Maicon o Julio Csar. Gracias a ellos y algunas decisiones arbitrales polmicas camino de la final.


El tcnico luso recuerda a cada instante la gesta de jugar con 10 la vuelta de semifinales en el Camp Nou tras la roja a Motta. Cmo sufrieron durante una hora en inferioridad para aguantar las embestidas de los chicos de Guardiola. Cmo tuvieron que sortear los aspersores sobre en la fiesta del Camp Nou...

Quizs tanto sufrimiento debi borrar de su base de datos lo acontecido en la ida en el Giuseppe Meazza. All, los 'neroazzurri' sacaron medio billete a la final del Bernabu gracias a un gol en claro fuera de juego de Diego Milito. [VER VDEO]. El 3-1 que echaba el cierre al marcador en tierras italianas. All, el famoso rbitro portugus Olegrio Benquerena convirti un derribo de Dani Alves en rea interista en amarilla por simular.

Recuerda Mourinho con amargura el arbitraje de la vuelta del belga De Bleeckere pero olvida que su segunda Champions fue una realidad por la anulacin de un gol a Bojan por una discutible mano previa de Tour Yay. Olvida demasiadas cosas el ahora entrenador del Real Madrid. Entre otras que cmo apart del camino en octavos de final a 'su' Chelsea... frente a diez y con algn que otro penalti sin sealar [VER VDEO]. Un pequeo escndalo en Stamford Bridge que apenas ruboriz al portugus durante las celebraciones de la Champions en su despedida con interista.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 28, 2011, 02:42:16 pm
how can he damage the reputation of franco's club? that ship has sailed
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Post by: vansmack on April 28, 2011, 03:28:03 pm
how can he damage the reputation of franco's club? that ship has sailed

Exactly. 

I also see him taking a lot of the Real media pressure off his players by being so outlandish.  Anybody who takes him seriously clearly has no sense of humor and should go back and look at how SAF handled him when he was in charge of Chelsea.  That is why there is so much mutual respect between the two.
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Post by: vansmack on April 28, 2011, 03:34:05 pm
I agree, my point is he's not 'the special one'.

It was a self appointed title and an absolutely brilliant strategy. 

I remember SAF talking about how outlandish a statement it was but that it actually had an affect on the players at an otherwise mediocre club.  The players at Chelsea took notice and m,any of them played to more than just their potential because they actually believed it:


"I don't have much time left, he'd better hurry up," Ferguson joked. "I got on very well with him at Chelsea and I think it was a loss to the game when he went. I actually enjoyed watching him on the television. I thought he was good. He was cocky and confident but it was good for the game.

"Right away he came in and said, 'I'm the Special One', and we all thought, 'Who is this?' and his team thought, 'We'd better win here'. They got off to a start like nothing on earth and everybody was chasing their tail for the rest of the season and the next season, so we had to do something about it.

"He came to Chelsea and made that declaration himself. Don't forget he was self-anointed. People then sat up but his achievements are there to be recognised. We won it the final year that Jose was there and I think we were in the ascendancy then. We had to do something about Chelsea and we did it. We can't accept being second so you have to do something about it."
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 28, 2011, 03:35:11 pm
how can he damage the reputation of franco's club? that ship has sailed

TEAM DISNEY
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Post by: hutch on April 28, 2011, 11:57:10 pm
I don't understand all the naysaying about Mourinho... Its way overdone.


Barcelona, claro que leo espanhol pero no entiendo porque te calentas tanto acerca de Mourinho..... es un DT super exitoso... que no te guste su estilo o las pavadas que dice para calentar los animos y hacer que los demas pierdan el control.. bueno, no te gusta.. pero y que? No lo defiendo pero no entiendo porque te calentas tanto.


Felicitaciones por la gran victoria del Barca.. en mi opinion el mejor equipo de los ultimos 20 anhos.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 29, 2011, 08:57:31 am
I don't understand all the naysaying about Mourinho... Its way overdone.


Barcelona, claro que leo espanhol pero no entiendo porque te calentas tanto acerca de Mourinho..... es un DT super exitoso... que no te guste su estilo o las pavadas que dice para calentar los animos y hacer que los demas pierdan el control.. bueno, no te gusta.. pero y que? No lo defiendo pero no entiendo porque te calentas tanto.


Felicitaciones por la gran victoria del Barca.. en mi opinion el mejor equipo de los ultimos 20 anhos.

DOOD...this is muurca, we speak English...
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Post by: sweetcell on April 29, 2011, 09:43:21 am
I don't understand all the naysaying about Mourinho... Its way overdone.


Barcelona, claro que leo espanhol pero no entiendo porque te calentas tanto acerca de Mourinho..... es un DT super exitoso... que no te guste su estilo o las pavadas que dice para calentar los animos y hacer que los demas pierdan el control.. bueno, no te gusta.. pero y que? No lo defiendo pero no entiendo porque te calentas tanto.


Felicitaciones por la gran victoria del Barca.. en mi opinion el mejor equipo de los ultimos 20 anhos.

DOOD...this is muurca, we speak English...

so by your logic, miami isn't in 'muurca?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 29, 2011, 10:02:35 am
Looks like QPR is coming up!  I'm so excited.
not so fast (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/8371690/Queens-Park-Rangers-may-face-points-deduction-as-FA-investigate-player-ownership.html)
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 29, 2011, 12:14:55 pm
Looks like QPR is coming up!  I'm so excited.
not so fast (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/8371690/Queens-Park-Rangers-may-face-points-deduction-as-FA-investigate-player-ownership.html)

Most like a fine, like the West Ham/Tevez deal.

Mind you...you'd think Warnock would've learned after his Sheffield United ended up the real victims from the Tevez fiasco.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 29, 2011, 01:17:18 pm
could be, but west ham got fined 5m before there was a rule. i've heard qpr might get 15 points deducted.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 29, 2011, 01:22:46 pm
could be, but west ham got fined 5m before there was a rule. i've heard qpr might get 15 points deducted.

If that happened there'd be holy hell over it.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 29, 2011, 01:25:41 pm
you can bet there will be holy hell either way...
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 29, 2011, 02:22:23 pm
They should get a hefty fine and points deduction but not enough to cost them promotion...and move on.
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Post by: Barcelona on April 29, 2011, 09:30:21 pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/audio/2011/apr/28/realmadrid-barcelona?intcmp=239
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Post by: Barcelona on April 29, 2011, 09:53:23 pm
I don't understand all the naysaying about Mourinho... Its way overdone.


Barcelona, claro que leo espanhol pero no entiendo porque te calentas tanto acerca de Mourinho..... es un DT super exitoso... que no te guste su estilo o las pavadas que dice para calentar los animos y hacer que los demas pierdan el control.. bueno, no te gusta.. pero y que? No lo defiendo pero no entiendo porque te calentas tanto.


Felicitaciones por la gran victoria del Barca.. en mi opinion el mejor equipo de los ultimos 20 anhos.

Hutch, I can understand a coach complaining about what he thinks is a bad decision by a referee.

However, leaking to the press that there is doping in FC Barcelona (making this thing up to deviate the attention of the players, press and public and try to reduce the difference in the table like this, quite sad) or saying that he would be ashamed if he were Guardiola after the champions league semifinals against Chelsea... this is beyond disagreement over a referee decision, it is bad and sad.

Not only he needs assistance to control his hatred against Barcelona, but he needs to understand that he is reviving the worst side of the rivalry during the franco days. But he does not care much about the consequence of what he says, he just thinks about himself. he is a sad human being.
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Post by: brennser on May 01, 2011, 03:01:36 pm
squeaky bum time  >:(
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 02, 2011, 08:16:19 am
i was afraid to text smackie :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 02, 2011, 09:04:27 am
I don't understand all the naysaying about Mourinho... Its way overdone.


Barcelona, claro que leo espanhol pero no entiendo porque te calentas tanto acerca de Mourinho..... es un DT super exitoso... que no te guste su estilo o las pavadas que dice para calentar los animos y hacer que los demas pierdan el control.. bueno, no te gusta.. pero y que? No lo defiendo pero no entiendo porque te calentas tanto.


Felicitaciones por la gran victoria del Barca.. en mi opinion el mejor equipo de los ultimos 20 anhos.

Hutch, I can understand a coach complaining about what he thinks is a bad decision by a referee.

However, leaking to the press that there is doping in FC Barcelona (making this thing up to deviate the attention of the players, press and public and try to reduce the difference in the table like this, quite sad) or saying that he would be ashamed if he were Guardiola after the champions league semifinals against Chelsea... this is beyond disagreement over a referee decision, it is bad and sad.

Not only he needs assistance to control his hatred against Barcelona, but he needs to understand that he is reviving the worst side of the rivalry during the franco days. But he does not care much about the consequence of what he says, he just thinks about himself. he is a sad human being.


As much as I despise Chelksi...and believe me when I say I hate them with a passion....Barca were gifted victory over them in the semi finals by the officials. It was  embarrassing to watch. Probably the worst case of ref bias I've ever seen. Last week I didn't see anything to give Morono cause for his tantrum and acccusations though.
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Post by: fatskippy on May 02, 2011, 09:55:47 am
Barca were gifted victory over them in the semi finals by the officials. It was  embarrassing to watch. Probably the worst case of ref bias I've ever seen.

Oh really?  Then why wasn't a penalty called when Bosingwa pulled down Henry in the box in the 1st leg?  Why was Abidal sent off when Anelka clearly dove/tripped over his own feet in the 2nd leg?
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Post by: vansmack on May 02, 2011, 11:16:18 am
A great weekend for Arsenal fans everywhere....except for one in Northern Pakistan.
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Post by: Barcelona on May 02, 2011, 11:17:52 am
If the referee wanted Barcelona to go to the final when facing Chelsea two years ago, he would have never shown that red card to Abidal, not only it was not for a red card, but he also left Barcelona a miracle as the the only possibility. I believe the referee did a poor job, but not that he started the game with the idea in his mind that Barcelona had to pass to the final no matter what.

anyhow, already nervous for tomorrow. in case we make it to the final, the defeat yesterday with arsenal will make ManU have to play at their best with Chelsea on the weekend.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 02, 2011, 12:42:37 pm
A great weekend for Arsenal fans everywhere....except for one in Northern Pakistan.

John Terry wanted to thank every Arsenal player personally, but there's no way they were letting him anywhere near their wags...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 04, 2011, 01:40:52 pm
Scary-VDS Rafael Evans Smalling O'Shea Nani Gibson Scholes Anderson Valencia Berbatov

Looks like SAF is getting ready for Chelsea...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 04, 2011, 04:42:55 pm
Third final in four years.  SAF has figured something out in Europe....

But for Rafael going forward against Munich when he shouldn't have been, very well could have been four straight.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on May 05, 2011, 09:14:51 am
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/united-raise-ticket-prices-to-annoy-everyone-201105053777/
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 05, 2011, 03:37:43 pm
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/united-raise-ticket-prices-to-annoy-everyone-201105053777/

A quid a ticket still keeps United well within the average range.....well below Arse, Chelski, Spurs, West Ham, and on a par with Stoke, Fulham and Shitty. The only teams with tickets available for less than OT are Birmingham and West Brom.

Not too shabby eh?
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Post by: vansmack on May 07, 2011, 09:56:10 pm
(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2011/0507/qprchampionsflag20110430_275x155.jpg)
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Post by: vansmack on May 08, 2011, 08:30:15 pm
Does anybody know who won the league?  I'm hammered and I don't remember...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 09, 2011, 10:00:44 am
i figured you went streaking to celebrate
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 09, 2011, 10:44:42 am
The title was pretty much won with 3 games (-36 seconds) left!!!  ;D

Are we REALLY that good or did both Shalke and Chelski just not show up for the games?

BTW - I never EVER want to hear how United own refs. Lampards handball was a penalty, and there was the other one when Valencia was brought down. IMO though, Howard Webb is the finest there is so not accusing him of any shennanigans. On the spur of the moment you need to be 100% certain to make the call, and it was only after the replay I saw it actually touched fat Franks arm. I'm sure the problem for the ref and AR was the ball didn't change direction after hitting his arm. Had that non-call been a game changer though it would be a nightmare after last season when Drogbas offside goal gifted chelski the title.

Park Ji UNSUNG HERO!!!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 09, 2011, 10:47:48 am
definitely agree that the lamps handball was a penalty
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Post by: vansmack on May 09, 2011, 04:27:17 pm
A few of my favorite quotes from yesterday:

"Can Scousers even count to 19?"

"I'm just happy Michael Owen finally chose the right team to win a title."

"I'm so happy right now I'm not even going to mind going over to my mother in laws for the afternoon"

"Sell him!" after Chicharito missed the wide open goal in the final minutes 
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 09, 2011, 04:29:23 pm
"I'm just happy Michael Owen finally chose the right team to win a title."
who
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 09, 2011, 04:36:43 pm
My personally made up joke

FOR SALE!

One turntable, hardly used.
Reason for sale - no longer needed, our records are all broken.

Contact
K. Dalglish
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 12, 2011, 11:28:33 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13368403.stm

HA HA HA HA!!! Not that I condone violence, but if anybody needed an arse kicking it's this prick!

I LOVE IT!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 16, 2011, 02:03:08 pm
I'd think it's safe to say Manchester is the epicenter of English football at this point in time.

 ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 16, 2011, 02:28:06 pm
you guys said it would not happen with city but tevez is again a winner
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 16, 2011, 03:02:15 pm
Having Tevez on the field definately motivates the other lazy arses to step it up a notch.

I was rooting for Stoke but it was pretty obvious after the first 10 minutes it was going to be a lob-sided affair.
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Post by: vansmack on May 16, 2011, 06:32:27 pm
you guys said it would not happen with city but tevez is again a winner

They're definitely going to be one of the stronger sides in the Europa League next season... ;-)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 16, 2011, 07:34:49 pm
didn't carlito try and quit halfway through the season?
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Post by: hutch on May 16, 2011, 08:35:36 pm
^yah he's a bit of a rabblerouser lately

and off the national side too

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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 17, 2011, 10:18:49 am
No offense to any members with latin blood, but he's your typical cry-baby prima-donna south American professional athlete..

"WAH WAH WAH I a donna wanna play chere na mo"

Shut the f*ck up and go cash your paycheck! Oh, and FYI...THE UNIVERSE DOES NOT F*CKING ROTATE AROUND YOU.


*Where are we on the 'F' bomb these days? Can we use grown up words, just not in the subject title? Or not at all?


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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 17, 2011, 10:32:24 am
plenty of english prima donnas too. maybe even more so
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 17, 2011, 10:43:10 am
The English just shag their team mates wags....well the scumbags do anyway.

If you're referring to the Rooney saga I think there's more than meets the eye there, and I don't think that soap opera has run it's course yet.

I definately think the south americans are much more tempramental (sp?) than their European counterparts. Just from a ref standpoint, if I see a team of south americans warming up I know I'm in for amature dramatics and a lot of whining and complaining. If it's a bunch of Europeans then I'm in for a bit of name calling. "You blind twat" etc. but not much more. Amuurcan players tend to behave more like the You'reapeein teams, with a bit of diving thrown in.

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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 17, 2011, 11:02:48 am
less tempermental toward refs? have you ever seen a chelsea match??
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 17, 2011, 11:31:20 am
less tempermental toward refs? have you ever seen a chelsea match??

They don't count.....or matter.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 17, 2011, 12:09:19 pm
i dont know man. its hard for me to name members of the english national team that arent awful jerks

(we arent allowed to say f'ing c's right?)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 17, 2011, 12:12:13 pm
its cultural...a lot of south american players come from countries where there is no law

i am sick of it myself
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Post by: vansmack on May 17, 2011, 12:17:57 pm
And how on earth are you referencing temperamental footballers comparing Latin Americans to Euro's and not once mentioned the Italians?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 17, 2011, 12:36:13 pm
And how on earth are you referencing temperamental footballers comparing Latin Americans to Euro's and not once mentioned the Italians?

Yep...you're right, bad choice of words on my part. I was 'thinking' British, Irish, German, French, Dutch and Scandinavians (northern Europeans?) so just gouped them as Europeans. The Italians most certainly give the south americans a run for their money. The Spanish as well to a lesser degree.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 17, 2011, 12:56:43 pm
its cultural...a lot of south american players come from countries where there is no law

i am sick of it myself

You know who I find the most frustrating to ref? The Argentinians. They will vehemently argue over the absolute slightest thing, llike a matter 6" when setting the wall or placing the ball for a free kick. And they love to play the victim. I never find them to be dirty or take cheap shots off the ball, but I'm convinced they would rather be fouled and earn a penalty than to actually score a goal from open play. I can't tell you how many times I've played the advantage and they've scored while their team mates are screaming at me for a penalty. Then still complained I never awarded the penalty after the goal is scored.

The Brits are arrogant on the field and try to educate the refs on the laws of the game. Even if they have no idea what the hell they are talking about most of the time. I suppose because we invented the game they feel they are the foremost authority on it. WRONG! Some of the laws that have been recited to me during a game are just hilarious. For example, I called a foul on a Brit for pushing in the back. 'WHAT!! WHAT!! YOU'RE TAKING THE PISS MATE' this was the law of of the game he recited to me "I CAME AWAY FROM THE CHALLENGE WITH CLEAR AND OBVIOUS POSESSION OF THE BALL" (huh?) So I finished his 'law' for him..."AFTER CLEARLY AND OBVIOUSLY PUSHING HIM WITH BOTH ARMS IN THE CENTER OF HIS BACK TO GAIN POSESSION OF SAID BALL"

As for the Americans. I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that the part of the brain that processes the offside law is missing from the American brain. It must be a genetic anomaly.


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 17, 2011, 07:42:48 pm
Mankie, you mention the italians and the spaniards? you are forgetting the worst ones, the portuguese.

anyhow, anyone going to Wembley? i am going, got a ticket. flying from central america.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 17, 2011, 07:53:26 pm
yah i know your view of argentines


pains me to agree..

not all argentine players are like that but more than not


i do repeat though that its cultural....if you grew up playing there you'd likely be the same..there is no law...no authority..no justice so everyone is left to their own defenses and you do whatever you have to to get ahead

but there are good ones too...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 17, 2011, 07:53:59 pm
thats great barcelona! very jealous
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 17, 2011, 08:06:19 pm
anyhow, anyone going to Wembley? i am going, got a ticket. flying from central america.

And here I was stoked that I was going to be pool side in Vegas for the match...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 17, 2011, 09:24:16 pm
that's unreal barca.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 18, 2011, 09:34:27 am
Nice one Barca...and I hope your trip is an unhappy one!!!  ;)

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 23, 2011, 11:57:09 am
Well....it wasn't even close at the top of the EPL when all said and done. Exciting finish at the other end though. I'm gutted the seasiders went down though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 23, 2011, 12:10:40 pm
Well....it wasn't even close at the top of the EPL when all said and done. Exciting finish at the other end though. I'm gutted the seasiders went down though.

What a rough 45 minutes that was for them...

For 15 minutes they thought they were up, then another 15 on the brink and then the last 15 they knew they were relegated.  Just brutal.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 24, 2011, 10:40:15 am
We REALLY don't need this Giggsy distraction right now.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 24, 2011, 10:06:44 pm
you guys just couldn't let blackpool stay up, eh?

jerks
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 25, 2011, 11:00:14 am
you guys just couldn't let blackpool stay up, eh?

jerks

I know...I would gladly have thrown that game if I was SAF.

I REALLY wanted Wolves to go down. McCarthy is a prick and Wolves are my father-outlaws team for some unkown reason....Have yet to figure out the connection between Cork, Ireland and Wolverhampton, England.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 25, 2011, 12:56:42 pm
David de Gea set to complete 17 million United move (http://www.guillembalague.com/rumores_desp.php?id=298&titulo=David%20de%20Gea%20set%20to%20complete%20%A317%20million%20United%20move)

He's good.  But I worry about how young he is to be given the #1
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 25, 2011, 01:31:30 pm
SAF must see something in him that the rest of us don't....or it's a train wreck waiting to happen. (Bosnitch and Massimo or whatever they were called).

Hopefully he can mature in the next couple of months because I don't think he currently has the leadership qualities that a goalie needs to organize the defence.

As for 'the game' on saturday. The only way United is going to win is to shut Barca down and score on the counter, which will mean a boring game. United are not going to be able to beat them at their own game. Give them space and we're doomed from the get-go.

Tight marking and let Rooney roam and we might nick it....weird being the underdog eh?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 25, 2011, 01:44:55 pm
I'm really surprised they didn't either (1) sign Maarten Stekelenburg or (2) sign de Gea earlier to learn from Van der Saar.

I just can't see him moving from Athletico and not be given the #1, though I would like to see him get some tutelage from a veteran for a year or two.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on May 25, 2011, 04:03:28 pm
There is only one Terry Cooke.  Ha ha.
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01903/1992-youth_1903123i.jpg)
(http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/444/8935857476.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 25, 2011, 04:09:03 pm
Yeah....united have bought success right????    ::)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 25, 2011, 07:20:07 pm
just 17m keepers haha
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 26, 2011, 08:52:18 am
just 17m keepers haha

Yeah....should probably spend the interest they've earned on the 80m they sold Ronaldo for right? No point giving it to the tax man eh?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 26, 2011, 11:24:43 am
BTW - United are doomed...Mark Lawrenson just tipped them to win on Saturday.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on May 28, 2011, 07:09:15 am
this is silly
http://deadspin.com/5806289/a-video-compilation-of-silly-tribute-songs-to-man-u-striker-chicharito
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 28, 2011, 04:55:33 pm
what pleasure watching barcelona

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 29, 2011, 09:10:57 am
Barca are just too good
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on May 29, 2011, 11:41:34 am
^true, but van der sar had a sub par performance on a couple of occasions...

nevertheless, Barca was the better team and they deserve the win...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 31, 2011, 10:34:57 am
Van Der Sar retired at half time. Chicarito should've been replaced by Owen at half time and Scholes should've started instead of Carrick.

Not saying that would've changed the end result but we would most certainly have put up more of a fight.

Barca are deservedly the Champions of Europe.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 01, 2011, 05:30:08 pm
Chicarito should've been replaced by Owen at half time

Well, we can try that in next years final (!).

Man United Sign One Year Extension with Michael Owen (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/01/manchester-united-contract-michael-owen)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 01, 2011, 08:32:19 pm
someone's gotta make sure the bench doesnt float away
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 02, 2011, 09:02:30 am
Chicarito should've been replaced by Owen at half time

Well, we can try that in next years final (!).

Man United Sign One Year Extension with Michael Owen (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jun/01/manchester-united-contract-michael-owen)

I think we'll see more of Owen next season....it's hard to believe a team can use a player of that quality as a bench warmer.....and still be embarrassed by another team in a champs league final..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 02, 2011, 09:02:39 am
someone's gotta make sure the bench doesnt float away

?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 02, 2011, 04:50:19 pm
We need to keep this thread going through the offseason because I'm getting withdrawals already....even if we have to discuss MLS.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2011, 09:14:51 pm
someone's gotta make sure the bench doesnt float away

?
i'm sorry

someone's gotta make sure the training table doesn't float away
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 03, 2011, 09:19:11 am
someone's gotta make sure the bench doesnt float away

?
i'm sorry

someone's gotta make sure the training table doesn't float away

??
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: imbecile on June 03, 2011, 09:32:07 am
We need to keep this thread going through the offseason because I'm getting withdrawals already....even if we have to discuss MLS.


So, round 2 of DC vs LA is tonight.

Some say LA was robbed to only get 1 point out of the last match, I see it differently.  The Davies dive and subsequent PK conversion was a blatant make-up call for blowing the Ngwenya call in the box that should've clearly been a PK, so that's a wash.  The real travesty in that game was Beckham (you see how I make this somewhat relevant to the current topic at hand - Man U.) absolutely destroyed Josh Wolff and should've seen red with about 60 minutes left in the match.  After thoroughly outplaying Portland at Jeld-Wen on Sunday, I think DC is primed for another good game; however, as a DC fan I'm well aware that means we'll probably choke.

Speaking of bad calls - Why is the officiating in MLS so bad?  Now that most international leagues are done, why can't they import some real officials for the remainder of the season, they're not busy.. i don't think.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 03, 2011, 12:27:45 pm
I'm available to ref till August when travel picks up again...and I'm AWSOME!



Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 03, 2011, 07:28:13 pm
@themichaelowen: Prefer playing less often in a top team than every game in a poor team. Been there & didn't enjoy it.

Freddy Shepard: "We might have been a poor team, but we made him a rich man. It works out at around 500,000 for every game in a Newcastle shirt. Poor? Well, he wasn't poorer for it. He spent more time ferrying between Cheshire and Tyneside in his 3.5 million helicopter."

Derek Llambias: "Under Kevin Keegan's management he was offered a one-year extension at 140,000 a week, which he did not take. He was already on 133,000. His time here cost 40-odd million, about 1.3 million per goal."

I'm awaiting Liverpool's response as maybe he was referring to them too...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 03, 2011, 08:30:35 pm
classic example of a guy spending too much time making stuff up on twitter rather than doing his job
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 06, 2011, 10:02:45 am
MANCHESTER UNITED
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NEWCASTLE UNITED
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LIVERPOOL
(http://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTf2tC3exNg1cALmlWBQx./SIG=12fdpefj7/EXP=1307397570/**http%3a//media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/chav-30188.jpg)



Who would you do? Just sayn....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 06, 2011, 12:06:00 pm
any of those people score more times a year than poor lil mikey
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 06, 2011, 12:08:18 pm
any of those people score more times a year than poor lil mikey

...but not Giggsy by all accounts!!!!  :o
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 06, 2011, 12:09:03 pm
was embarassed for US against spain..


why bother playing the world champs without your a team?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 06, 2011, 12:25:54 pm
was embarassed for US against spain..


why bother playing the world champs without your a team?

I'm embarrassed for Carlos Tevez every time he leaves England.

As for the US, they're prepping for the Gold Cup, where they won't need their A team until the final versus Mexico.  In LA, June 25 by the way.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 06, 2011, 12:35:41 pm
was embarassed for US against spain..


why bother playing the world champs without your a team?

I'm embarrassed for Carlos Tevez every time he leaves England.

As for the US, they're prepping for the Gold Cup, where they won't need their A team until the final versus Mexico.  In LA, June 25 by the way.

huh? I root for the US...i had a hand injury so dont type much lately
am aware of gold cup
so why have spain over if you cant field your a team?

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 06, 2011, 12:43:51 pm

so why have spain over if you cant field your a team?


That's a completely different question and you'll have to ask US soccer, but I know exactly why they fielded the team they did.  With MLS playing that weekend and the Gold Cup starting in 3 days after the match, I was not the slightest bit surprised at the line up.  Nor was I surprised by the result.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 06, 2011, 01:14:57 pm
was embarassed for US against spain..


why bother playing the world champs without your a team?

I'm embarrassed for Carlos Tevez every time he leaves England.

As for the US, they're prepping for the Gold Cup, where they won't need their A team until the final versus Mexico.  In LA, June 25 by the way.


Tevez is dumber than a pile of camel dung...does he not think his comments won't get back to England or something?


Let him go play for Boca Jr.s or whatever he wants to do this week....he's just an embarrassment to himself at this point.. "I want to leave...I kiss the badge of Man City...I want to play in Italy....I want to go to Madrid....I kiss the city badge again...FUCK OFF ALREADY!
Turns out SAF was the genius we know him to be, letting the twat go across to the council house. Let them deal with his prima donna arse...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 06, 2011, 01:20:50 pm
was embarassed for US against spain..


why bother playing the world champs without your a team?

I'm embarrassed for Carlos Tevez every time he leaves England.

As for the US, they're prepping for the Gold Cup, where they won't need their A team until the final versus Mexico.  In LA, June 25 by the way.


Tevez is dumber than a pile of camel dung...does he not think his comments won't get back to England or something?


Let him go play for Boca Jr.s or whatever he wants to do this week....he's just an embarrassment to himself at this point.. "I want to leave...I kiss the badge of Man City...I want to play in Italy....I want to go to Madrid....I kiss the city badge again...FUCK OFF ALREADY!
Turns out SAF was the genius we know him to be, letting the twat go across to the council house. Let them deal with his prima donna arse...


i think the dumb ones are man city not tevez..he wants to leave..its been clear for over a year!!


having said that its been dissapointing to see th continues lack of professionalism..have lost my respect 4 him
in fairness tevez led league in scoring and led man city to the title
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 06, 2011, 01:29:06 pm

so why have spain over if you cant field your a team?


That's a completely different question and you'll have to ask US soccer, but I know exactly why they fielded the team they did.  With MLS playing that weekend and the Gold Cup starting in 3 days after the match, I was not the slightest bit surprised at the line up.  Nor was I surprised by the result.

actually thats the same question
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 06, 2011, 01:39:37 pm
in fairness tevez led league in scoring and led man city to the FA Cup title

Just a quick correction in you choice of title and to point out that Berbatov was tied with Tevez, and he'll probably never play for United again, so I'm not sure what leading the league in goals really means anymore.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 06, 2011, 01:43:16 pm
actually thats the same question

No problem - I read them differently.

I read "why bother playing the world champs without your a team?" as questioning the lineup choice.

I read "so why have spain over if you cant field your a team?" as what you intended with the first question, and agree with you.

When I saw the lineups, I didn't bother watching and I was glad as hell I wasn't one of the 60,000 schmucks in the stands who paid good money to see that drivel.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 06, 2011, 01:53:13 pm
in fairness tevez led league in scoring and led man city to the FA Cup title

Just a quick correction in you choice of title and to point out that Berbatov was tied with Tevez, and he'll probably never play for United again, so I'm not sure what leading the league in goals really means anymore.

the title meant as in "a title..something they have not won in decades"...


you cant take that away from tevez though you will i'm sure

i remember when tevez went to man city you all said he'd never win anything at man city

you were wrong.

i can agree that tevez now acts consistently like an idiot but this year again confirmed that no matter where he plays he is a winner... dont diminish it.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 06, 2011, 01:58:59 pm
i was annoyed to see batista cave in to tevez' pr pressure and call him up to the argentina national side
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 06, 2011, 02:00:09 pm
the title = premier league

a title= FA Cup or Carling Cup

I will go back see if I actually said we wouldn't win anything or if I said he would win the league.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 06, 2011, 03:38:49 pm
in fairness tevez led league in scoring and led man city to the FA Cup title

Just a quick correction in you choice of title and to point out that Berbatov was tied with Tevez, and he'll probably never play for United again, so I'm not sure what leading the league in goals really means anymore.

Not a bad squad when your bench warmer is a league leading goal scorer!!! And I don't mean old scarneck.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 06, 2011, 08:55:17 pm
they had spain over to sell 60k tickets

better question is why ajax played dcu the week after winning the title
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 06, 2011, 09:45:45 pm
they had spain over to sell 60k tickets

better question is why ajax played dcu the week after winning the title
you could still have spain over, sell 60k, and take it seriously..

they wasted a nice opportunity and let down the americans who bought tickets
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 07, 2011, 01:25:55 pm
OK, I went back and did my research.  Assuming Tevez returns to England this offseason despite promising to never set foot in Manchester again....

Thank you for reminding me.  The Community Shield.....another competition Carlos Tevez will likely never play in again.

He will play in the Community Shield by virtue of having won the FA Cup, though I'm sure he'd rather have won the league.

Great, but he'll never play in a Champions League game, let alone a Final so long as he's at City.

He has yet to play in a Champions League game, let alone a final as I predicted.  If he returns this season he'll get the first one done, but still not the second.

I honestly find it hard to understand why ManU people would hate on Tevez because anyone who watched him play saw firsthand his desire and the fact that he left it all on the pitch.

Remember when you said that?  Care to compare that with this new statement of yours?

i think the dumb ones are man city not tevez..he wants to leave..its been clear for over a year!!

having said that its been dissapointing to see th continues lack of professionalism..have lost my respect 4 him
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 07, 2011, 01:49:56 pm
OK, I went back and did my research.  Assuming Tevez returns to England this offseason despite promising to never set foot in Manchester again....

Thank you for reminding me.  The Community Shield.....another competition Carlos Tevez will likely never play in again.

He will play in the Community Shield by virtue of having won the FA Cup, though I'm sure he'd rather have won the league.

Great, but he'll never play in a Champions League game, let alone a Final so long as he's at City.

He has yet to play in a Champions League game, let alone a final as I predicted.  If he returns this season he'll get the first one done, but still not the second.

I honestly find it hard to understand why ManU people would hate on Tevez because anyone who watched him play saw firsthand his desire and the fact that he left it all on the pitch.

Remember when you said that?  Care to compare that with this new statement of yours?

i think the dumb ones are man city not tevez..he wants to leave..its been clear for over a year!!

having said that its been dissapointing to see th continues lack of professionalism..have lost my respect 4 him

sure..but i think you guys should eat some humble pie first! keep in mind i cant type too well.

Tevez led Man City to a title and they will be in the Champions L...
there are two different issues to me: his footballing skills and the person off the pitch... I was correct about his footballing skills (although in a weird twist not enough in my view for him to get callup to arg national side as there is not space) and his being a winner..I did not appreciate that the person was a bit less than i thought...probably because i was reading too much the argentine papers..since then things in his personal life and professional life off the pitch have led me to change my opinion..maybe i was a bit late to see things..

it is a fine line between on the pitch and professional life off the pitch.. but the other alternative is just to say "professional" and then he's a zero...and yet he scored a ton of goals and led man city to a title, CL..thats got to count for something... i THINK HIS RECORD AS A WINNER IS UNCHALLENGED unless all you care about is the CL

multiple titled with boca including libertadores and intercontinental cup over winner of cl (real i think)
titles with brazil club corinthians
almost singlehandedly kept westham in premier
titles with man u including cl
title with ma city that had not won in decades..
olympic gold (ok thats pushing it..)


and my main point was when people said that after leaving man u he'd never win anything well that he was a winner and you couldn't just discount that.. no matter what you think about the way he handles contract negotiations/personal life/rabble rousing.


the person though has been a dissapointmet.....much like most argentines...sad.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 07, 2011, 02:09:06 pm
Here's a new Argentine classic from my mens league last night.

He wouldn't shut his yap, whining complaining and challenging every call I made. (even the corrrect ones  ;) ) Basically being his usual self. I carded him just before half time because frankly he was giving me a headache....

"You can't card me. I'm the captain. You can't card captains What's the card for anyway?"
"Dissent"
"Dissent? There's no such thing as dissent. You make stuff up. You're the worst referee to ever walk on a soccer field"
"Very nice, thank you for the input. Remember, you're still on a yellow"

Never heard a peep from him for the rest of the game. How can someone who's played the game for all his life (evidently) be so ignorant of the laws of the game? It really is unbelievable.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 07, 2011, 06:59:53 pm
You won, right?

Aight, I'll play along:

1. MUFC
2. Chelsea
3. Spurs
4. Arsenal (assuming they change Almunia)
5. City (if no Almuia deal, swap City and Arsenal)
6. Liverpool
7. Everton
8. Aston Villa (sad)
9. Fulham
10. Bolton
11. Stoke
12. Sunderland
13. Birmingham
14. West Ham
15. Blackburn
16. Toon
17. Wolves
18. Wigan
19. West Brom
20. Blackpool

I'll even add Forest, Cardiff and QPR all come up.

my dvr is going to get a workout

decided to make a full table prediction over lunch today:
01 man u
02 chelsea
03 arsenal
04 shitty
05 everton
06 spurs
07 'pool
08 brum
09 fulham
10 villa
11 stoke
12 mackems
13 wolves
14 toon
15 blackburn
16 wigan
17 bolton
18 w. ham
19 wba
20 blackpool


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 07, 2011, 08:13:56 pm
we both underestimated the toon
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 08, 2011, 01:17:13 pm
we both underestimated the toon

Is that possible?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 08, 2011, 01:27:26 pm
Actual;
1 Man Utd
2 Chelsea
3 Man City
4 Arsenal
5 Tottenham 
6 Liverpool 
7 Everton 
8 Fulham 
9 Aston Villa 
10 Sunderland 
11 West Brom 
12 Newcastle 
13 Stoke 38
14 Bolton 38 
15 Blackburn 
16 Wigan 
17 Wolves 
18 Birmingham 
19 Blackpool
20 West Ham

My Prediction using BBC predictor
MUFC
Chelski
Arse
Shitty
Spurs
Scum
Everton
Villa
Sunderland
Toon
Bolton
Fulham
Brum
Blackpool
Stoke
Blackburn
Hammers
Wolves
West Brom
Wigan
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 08, 2011, 01:46:25 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13700351.stm

 ???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 08, 2011, 06:30:23 pm
you seemed confused a lot these days
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2011, 11:01:25 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13700351.stm

 ???

That was a done deal back in March.  I'm surprised by your confusion.

With O'Shea and Brown gone, it makes much more sense.

Now Gibson?  That move perplexed me with the Scholes retirement...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 09, 2011, 12:42:50 pm
SAF must've banned me from that press conference?

Seriously, I had no fucking clue this was in the works.....I feel shamed. (reaches for hari kari sword)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 17, 2011, 05:53:47 pm
man, if it wasn't for the knee, i'd totally get ba on the back of my shirt
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 23, 2011, 11:33:25 am
Ashley Young.....does that mean we can cash in on Nani? (Like Ronaldo..talented but not a United player in my opinion)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 23, 2011, 07:17:25 pm
Ashley Young.....does that mean we can cash in on Nani? (Like Ronaldo..talented but not a United player in my opinion)

Yes.  The last thing united needed was another winger (unless Giggs isn't coming back for one last season...).  Nani out, a central midfielder in.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 24, 2011, 09:39:06 am
BTW...that gold competition thingie that is going on...I have to go with Chicharito so sorry my yankee doodle dandies...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 25, 2011, 02:56:20 pm
since i'm not subscribed to fox soccer whachamachannel, my only option for watching the game at home is on Univision. !Viva!

in protest, we'll be drinking margaritas & coronas and cheering for el tricolor.  yes, i realize that makes no sense, but it's a convenient excuse to make and drink margaritas ;D

smackie, where do your allegiances lie?  does your love of the little bean lead you to treason?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 25, 2011, 04:30:32 pm
since i'm not subscribed to fox soccer whachamachannel, my only option for watching the game at home is on Univision. !Viva!

in protest, we'll be drinking margaritas & coronas and cheering for el tricolor.  yes, i realize that makes no sense, but it's a convenient excuse to make and drink margaritas ;D

smackie, where do your allegiances lie?  does your love of the little bean lead you to treason?

univision  bites.. the commentators are awful and couldn't be more pro-mexico/anti US if they tried... 

i watch it too when i have to but that channel really sucks... and the commercials- some of them- are beyond sketchy...the women look and act like cheap hookers and they seem to be filmed on ancient cameras...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 25, 2011, 07:08:19 pm
Univision's commentators are awful, their metaphors are beyond idiotic, and yes, they are very pro-mexico...but I must say, for the most part, Concacaf soccer is unwatchable...hopefully we'll see some decent ftbol tonight...I hope the U.S. makes it to the Confederation Cup, it's really cool when this country gets excited with a soccer match...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 25, 2011, 07:37:20 pm
Univision's commentators are awful, their metaphors are beyond idiotic, and yes, they are very pro-mexico...but I must say, for the most part, Concacaf soccer is unwatchable...hopefully we'll see some decent ftbol tonight...I hope the U.S. makes it to the Confederation Cup, it's really cool when this country gets excited with a soccer match...


Oh, I agree.. CONCACAF is pretty much unwatchable...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 25, 2011, 09:54:25 pm
although what a first half!

the USA-Mexico matchups are always interesting...

what is Bornstein still doing on the team..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 25, 2011, 11:24:34 pm
Dempsey was awful in the second half, and also Howard, especially in the fourth goal...fun game though, too bad for the U.S., but I guess they need to learn how to stay focused throughout the game...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 26, 2011, 01:52:21 am

what is Bornstein still doing on the team.

Shocked it wasn't Spector.  Sure Bornstein was great in the WC, but he's been crap since.

But don't overlook Mexico's Torres for Salcido sub.  They weren't ready for Adu, and adjusted accordingly.  Bob Bradley did nothing about that and sat back and watched Bornstein get abused. Please bring in a foreign coach...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 26, 2011, 01:58:20 am

smackie, where do your allegiances lie?  does your love of the little bean lead you to treason?

This is a joke right?  I wouldnt even let my mexican house cleaner come over today.  My disdain for mexican football knows no boundaries...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 26, 2011, 09:13:48 am
I wouldnt even let my mexican house cleaner come over today.  My disdain for mexican football knows no boundaries...

your maid plays for the mexican team?!?  you yanks were beaten by a team of maids?!?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 26, 2011, 10:04:02 am
Quote from: sweetcell link=topic=2922.msg325748#msg325748
your maid plays for the mexican team?!?  you yanks were beaten by a team of maids?!?

GROUP STAGE

June 7  USA 2-0 Canada
June 11 Canada 1-0 Guadalupe
June 14 Canada 1-1 Panama
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 26, 2011, 11:08:40 am
bradley at fault again, i agree with smackie

complete failure to do something to help the fullbacks defies explanation
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 27, 2011, 12:52:46 pm
Of course a latino channel would be biased towards Mexico....it's only the English media that are self-loathing defeatist morons.

The USA is no different. Try watching the olympics. Once the American is out, that event is never seen or heard from again. If that was the same with Gt. Britain all we'd ever see is cycling during the Olympics....which would be perfectly fine with me actually.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 27, 2011, 01:27:31 pm
Of course a latino channel would be biased towards Mexico....it's only the English media that are self-loathing defeatist morons.

The USA is no different. Try watching the olympics. Once the American is out, that event is never seen or heard from again. If that was the same with Gt. Britain all we'd ever see is cycling during the Olympics....which would be perfectly fine with me actually.

Next thing you know you'll say "Of course the entire Rose Bowl or near that would cheer for Mexico.."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 27, 2011, 01:33:44 pm
Of course a latino channel would be biased towards Mexico....it's only the English media that are self-loathing defeatist morons.

The USA is no different. Try watching the olympics. Once the American is out, that event is never seen or heard from again. If that was the same with Gt. Britain all we'd ever see is cycling during the Olympics....which would be perfectly fine with me actually.

Next thing you know you'll say "Of course the entire Rose Bowl or near that would cheer for Mexico.."

Ya think???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 27, 2011, 01:50:55 pm
Of course a latino channel would be biased towards Mexico....it's only the English media that are self-loathing defeatist morons.

The USA is no different. Try watching the olympics. Once the American is out, that event is never seen or heard from again. If that was the same with Gt. Britain all we'd ever see is cycling during the Olympics....which would be perfectly fine with me actually.

Next thing you know you'll say "Of course the entire Rose Bowl or near that would cheer for Mexico.."

Ya think???

I think you'd say that...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 27, 2011, 02:19:32 pm
i guess this puts vancouver on the same level as buenos aires?

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/SPORT/football/06/27/argentina.river.plate.riots/index.html

GO BOCA JUNIORS!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 27, 2011, 03:01:13 pm
i guess this puts vancouver on the same level as buenos aires?

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/SPORT/football/06/27/argentina.river.plate.riots/index.html

GO BOCA JUNIORS!


As a Boca fan since day one I'm living a dream... just glad my Uncle Mario is not here to see this.. he would not believe it.. RIver Plate is like the Yankees or Man U.. or should i say "used to be like"

the riots are par for the course.. people riot over anything down there... this makes more sense than most reasons...


and everyone knew the riots would happen.. my mother who lives there sent me an email she got from the US embassy a few days before the game warning her (she's actually here visiting us but anyways)..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 27, 2011, 03:52:30 pm
i guess this puts vancouver on the same level as buenos aires?

Not exactly.  Vancouver rioted because they lost the Stanley Cup, not because the Canucks were forced to play in the AHL. 

I can see myself rioting if United were ever relegated.  I didn't riot when they lost to Barca in the Champions League final. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 27, 2011, 05:15:01 pm
I miss the good old days when the Red Army would riot....win, lose or draw!!!!
 ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 28, 2011, 12:33:04 pm
I miss the good old days when the Red Army would riot....win, lose or draw!!!!
 ;)

You're such a sweet and tender hooligan....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 28, 2011, 12:59:17 pm
I miss the good old days when the Red Army would riot....win, lose or draw!!!!
 ;)

You're such a sweet and tender hooligan....

Nice recall!  ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 30, 2011, 12:02:05 pm
speaking of manchester and hooligans
http://yfrog.com/kkftlrj
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 30, 2011, 12:29:39 pm
Morrissey is actually a Milwall supporter.

Little known fact - Morrisseys dad got a try out for Man Utd but decided he needed to support his family with a real job instead! I think Morrissey grew up a United supporter but switched allegiance while living in London. Unless he has two teams like me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 08, 2011, 11:40:10 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14081334.stm

This is good.

Ferdinand and Vidic can now comfortably hand over the reigns to Jones and Smalling when the time comes.....on to the midfield rebuild.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 11, 2011, 07:40:13 pm
anyone here watching the women's world cup?

unrelated:
Unless he has two teams like me.

soon gallagher, they'll be knocking down your door and forcing you into a same-sex marriage.  it's coming.
As long as he's hot and gives great head but expects nothing back in return I could work with it.....

;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 12, 2011, 10:02:47 am
anyone here watching the women's world cup?

unrelated:
Unless he has two teams like me.

soon gallagher, they'll be knocking down your door and forcing you into a same-sex marriage.  it's coming.
As long as he's hot and gives great head but expects nothing back in return I could work with it.....

;D

Freudian of me huh?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 12, 2011, 12:10:33 pm
anyone here watching the women's world cup?

How can I watch the women's world cup with the prospect of the sexiest footballer alive coming to Man Utd?  Wesley Sneidjer in a red jersey is hotter than any of the "men" playing in the women's world cup...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 12, 2011, 12:15:22 pm
Wesley Sneidjer in a red jersey is hotter than any of the "men" playing in the women's world cup...

hope solo

</discussion>
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 12, 2011, 12:29:49 pm

hope solo

</discussion>

All of Team Sweden < /discussion>

And lets not forget the Germans who were in playboy.

Let's face it:  this is the worst looking US squad in decades....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 12, 2011, 12:50:25 pm
indeed, on the whole the US team ain't so hot, but solo makes up for the others.  i could watch her all day.

the tournament has been surprisingly compelling.  i wasn't expecting much but i've gotten in to it.  yes, i'd prefer a men's world cup but that isn't on offer at the moment.  watching the US-Brazil game with the missus, who is a samba-file/spent time in brazil/speaks portuguese/etc, was a lot of fun.

i caught part of argentina's beat-down of costa rica last night.  sheesh.  talk about a mismatch.  time of possession breakdown must have been 70/30, if not more.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 12, 2011, 12:55:32 pm
I think the US womens footie team is also the US womens softball team this time around.

YIKES!!!!  :o
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 13, 2011, 10:20:27 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-14134851

An unamed immigration official was quoted off the record as saying....

"Besides, he's a scouse twat. We don't want anymore scouse twats on our soil..FUCK HIM!"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 13, 2011, 12:13:09 pm
i blame morrisey
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 13, 2011, 12:50:21 pm

Inter Milan deny receiving offer for Wesley Sneijder

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14136334.stm

Translation - 'a deal is imminent'

 ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 13, 2011, 03:35:24 pm

Inter Milan deny receiving offer for Wesley Sneijder

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14136334.stm

Translation - 'a deal is imminent'

 ;D

Yep.  Nani is part of the deal I'm hearing...

The Sun says the deal is done, but of course, it's The Sun.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 13, 2011, 04:28:01 pm

Inter Milan deny receiving offer for Wesley Sneijder

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14136334.stm

Translation - 'a deal is imminent'

 ;D

Yep.  Nani is part of the deal I'm hearing...

The Sun says the deal is done, but of course, it's The Sun.


The Sun is a trashy tabloid without question, but they are damn good with the footie scoops.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 13, 2011, 05:00:29 pm
The Sun is a trashy tabloid without question, but they are damn good with the footie scoops.

You really need to start tempering my expectations on this front.  I've been asking for this move for over two years....

But, just because:

Talk is gathering pace that Manchester United have sent some delegates to Milan to discuss the potential signing of Inter Milan midfielder Wesley Sneijder.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 14, 2011, 10:14:45 am
35million and 190k per week.

OR

Nani and ??million and 190k per week.

I'd take the Nani option myself. Don't like him so cash in on him.

Either way, a deal is allegedly done and pen to paper in next 48 hours.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 14, 2011, 12:16:02 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14136334.stm

DONE DEAL!!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 14, 2011, 12:43:03 pm
Nani and ??million and 190k per week.

I'd take the Nani option myself. Don't like him so cash in on him.

I agree, especially after the Ashley Young deal.  After watching Young yesterday, I could have swore I was watching Dwight York.  Same posture and running style...

Apparently the Sneijder deal is down to just wages.  I have a footie sized chubby.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 14, 2011, 04:16:33 pm
Nani and ??million and 190k per week.

I'd take the Nani option myself. Don't like him so cash in on him.

I agree, especially after the Ashley Young deal.  After watching Young yesterday, I could have swore I was watching Dwight York.  Same posture and running style...

Apparently the Sneijder deal is down to just wages.  I have a footie sized chubby.

What size? 3, 4 or 5?

Walkie wants to know!!!  :)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 15, 2011, 01:05:57 pm
Jozi to Holland (AZ Alkmaar).  Not clear if it's a sale or a loan, but he'll definitely get more playing time there than Villarreal.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 15, 2011, 01:22:52 pm
BTW - Machaeda should get a contract with MLS because it seems he can only perform on US soil.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 15, 2011, 01:24:07 pm
BTW - Machaeda should get a contract with MLS because it seems he can only perform on US soil.

Especially with that hair.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on July 18, 2011, 09:17:05 am
a total WTF weekend...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 18, 2011, 10:45:09 am
You know...while watching the womens world cup I couldn't help but get the feeling something was missing from what you get watching the men play. Then it came to me!!

Diving
Faking injury
Rolling around like an extra in the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan at the slightest contact.
Verbally abusing the officials
Grace and dignity in defeat.
Grace and humility in victory.

Congratulations to Japan and thank you to all ladies for putting the 'beautiful' back in the beautiful game.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 19, 2011, 02:27:51 pm
The Official Rio Ferdinand Android App. (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mblox.xrio.rio)

(https://ssl.gstatic.com/android/market/com.mblox.xrio.rio/ss-480-2-13)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 19, 2011, 02:57:28 pm
What does it do?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 19, 2011, 03:21:47 pm
What does it do?

Mostly, he posts videos of himself and the players busting on each other.  And it follows his twitter feed.

I'm shooting for a cameo appearance on the app in Chicago this weekend.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 21, 2011, 01:22:42 pm
Hmmm....I thought Seattle took the game to them for most of the first half. Once Keller was out of the net the defense just fell apart, which proves how important a strong goalie is. Which is also a concern for me for United when the big boy league starts.

Nani still using United games for the "Nani show" and I would like to see him gone. He's not handsome enough to be the next Ronaldo.

If I was Rooney I'd be thinking 'refund' for the hair-job too.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 25, 2011, 03:33:42 pm
Just in case you missed it..

What's the difference between Amy Winehouse and Sir Alex Ferguson?

Fergie can still play Giggs!!!!


 ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 27, 2011, 03:50:43 pm
city just signed Aguero...


good player.. remains to be seen how he does in Premier League


on Argentina national team he's been better than Tevez..

I understand they are looking to get rid of Tevez...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 27, 2011, 04:24:27 pm
I don't think any other team wants to deal with Tevez....regardless of his obvious talents.

One minute he's kissing the badge then the next demanding to be traded....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 27, 2011, 04:26:10 pm
I don't think any other team wants to deal with Tevez....regardless of his obvious talents.

One minute he's kissing the badge then the next demanding to be traded....


yeah..tevez is a drag these days.. i agree..

apparently a deal to return him to corinthians was close but i guess it did not work out..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 28, 2011, 12:56:28 pm
YIKES!!!!

MLS still has a ways to go then....


 :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 28, 2011, 12:57:52 pm
yeah..tevez is a drag these days.. i agree..

These days?!  THESE DAYS!!!??
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 28, 2011, 01:42:36 pm
yeah..tevez is a drag these days.. i agree..

These days?!  THESE DAYS!!!??


well for me all that matters is the national team (ARGENTINA) and for the WC 2010 and COpa America both times he pressured and lobbied until he got called, then lobbied some more and srated,.. the team then had to change its approach and it did not help.. I'm not going to blame Tevez but I just wish the coaches would go with their gut instinct...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 28, 2011, 02:17:42 pm
I just wish the coaches would go with their gut instinct...

Like Sir Alex did....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 28, 2011, 02:22:22 pm
I just wish the coaches would go with their gut instinct...

Like Sir Alex did....


I do know Argentina can't start Messi and Tevez at the same time.... With Man U it was more of changing one player for another.. The problem with Man U as far as I know was that Tevez wanted more money not that Ferguson (Sir? really?) didn't want him.

Are we really going to go there again? Tevez played well for Man U and played very well for City. He is a very good player for a premier league team but on the Argentine side there isn't any space for him.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 28, 2011, 03:17:32 pm
Hutch - I don't think anybody is questioning Tevez's skill, just his behaviour off the field.

SAF simply got sick of his bullshit. Every player is replaceable. (except maybe Scholes) Tevez is not the first or last who will get the Fergie-FUCK OFF! Stam, RVN, Beckham and Ronaldo to a lesser extent got the same treatment. All better than Tevez imo.For Tevez to go and play for the noisey neighbours (City) is proof of his lack of character. You just don't do that in English football. (I can't speak for other leagues) Even when Rooney was having his little tantrum, City offered him ungodly amounts of money but it was never going to happen.

Before anyone brings up Owen....Liverpool didn't want him back, it had been years since he played for them, the player needed a job and the only offer came from United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 28, 2011, 05:37:31 pm
Please, Juergen?!  Pretty please?  All you have to do is teach Americans the concept of "possession" and you will see dramatic improvements at the international level.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 28, 2011, 05:44:23 pm
Please, Juergen?!  Pretty please?  All you have to do is teach Americans the concept of "possession" and you will see dramatic improvements at the international level.


I don't get the Juergen hype... he hardly has any coaching experience.. and i always understood that Loew was the one that decided things...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 28, 2011, 06:33:19 pm
I don't get the Juergen hype... he hardly has any coaching experience.. and i always understood that Loew was the one that decided things...

Agreed. Juergen was the teacher, Loew was the tactician.

However, US Soccer needs to be taught before they can focus on tactics.  (Plus I don't think Loew would leave the German squad for the US Squad... ;-) )

Knowing US Soccer though, it's Sigi Schmid's turn to keep us in mediocracy instead of wholesale changes in our approach to the game.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 28, 2011, 08:20:39 pm
right klinsman sucks because he picks good assistants. makes sense
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 28, 2011, 09:37:45 pm
right klinsman sucks because he picks good assistants. makes sense


ha ha..


I didn't say he sucks but how much experience does he have? How many years of coaching does he have? 4?


Moreover, if his knowledge of "tactics" is so poor that he relies on an assistant for that- well- I'd like the manager to know both tactics and teaching


when you don't know tactics you do things like Maradona where he played against Germany with a midfield of 3 or arguably 2.. Germany 4- argentina 0

tactics are important.. when Mexico is destroying the US and its because Bornstein is useless and slow..well it would have helped to have someone coaching the team who understood that

moreover, in today's int soccer i would argue that a good coach- with the right tactics or strategy- can get the right result even with lesser players

I do not think Klinsmann coaching Bayern Munich- Germany's best team- and the German national team , in GERMANY, to the semis is that great a track record..

Yes, he's a former great player.. that is true but the US can do better.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 28, 2011, 09:44:19 pm
i agree bradley and maradona are worse than klinsman at picking assistants
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 28, 2011, 09:46:21 pm
i agree bradley and maradona are worse than klinsman at picking assistants

Well, if thats all you got my friend I'll just leave it at that..

You have to make a better case for Klinsmann than "He's good at picking assistants.."
 A point which by the way is not substantiated: He was good at picking Loew.. Thats about all we know.. Loew is not available in case you were not aware.

This is the US National Soccer Team not  Boca Juniors Potomac.


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 28, 2011, 09:56:42 pm
i just don't see how you dismiss a world cup by saying 'oh it was just his assistant, look at these other guys that supposedly dont know tactics'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 28, 2011, 10:04:46 pm
i just don't see how you dismiss a world cup by saying 'oh it was just his assistant, look at these other guys that supposedly dont know tactics'


Huh? Semis in Germany for Germany is not a great result.

So you're saying the US should pick Klinsmann over guys like Hiddink or Avocaat because of one WC? And the reason I dismiss Klinsmann is because it was so evident on the sideline that Loew was the one making the decisions. How can I not dismiss that?


(I realize neither Hiddink or Avocaat may be available)


I'm now sure we are communicating well.. I'm not saying Klinsmann is like Maradona or Bradley.. he is WAY better than Diego and better than Bradley.. I just think we can do better.


Heck Gerardo Martino of Paraguay I have no doubt is a way better coach than Klinsmann... Call him up .. he is available TONIGHT.. tomorrow he will say whether he reups with Paraguay...

There are plenty of proven coaches...heck make a run at Markarian and see if you can pry him from Peru...

THe focus on Klinsmann I think has more to do with his connections with the US media than anything else.. its not based on a proven track record of coaching success.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 28, 2011, 10:09:46 pm
you're kidding about hiddink and avocaat right? it's the usa not england. someone from mls is the alternative here. maybe sven

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 28, 2011, 10:15:47 pm
you're kidding about hiddink and avocaat right? it's the usa not england. someone from mls is the alternative here. maybe sven



Wow, first of all I added to my post above.. but it must be you that is kidding.. Hiddink is currently coaching Turkey and has coached plenty of countries with less pedigree than the US.. same for Avocaat..Sounds to me like you think the US shouldn't aspire to a great coach.. show them the money and they will come.. its actually an attractive job.


Sven? who would want him? A complete and utter failure.. what we want is a guy with proven national team experience at the World CUp level and preferably not with major powers... someone who has coached say a team like Paraguay to make a good run.. Another guy who is great is the guy who coaches Costa Rica and used to coach Mexico.. THAT guy is a MANAGER (ADD: LAVOLPE)


By the way the more I think about it the more I like the idea of a Latin American..

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 28, 2011, 10:26:05 pm
no one would want sven, that's the point

neither gus nor dick are going to leave their jobs in the middle of euro qualifying to manage a concacaf team 3 years from a world cup
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 28, 2011, 10:49:15 pm
no one would want sven, that's the point

neither gus nor dick are going to leave their jobs in the middle of euro qualifying to manage a concacaf team 3 years from a world cup


plenty of other coaches I would rate higher than Klinsmann based on their track record/experience.


Again, you simply haven't made any argument for why Juergen is the right guy for the job.. Why? Because the guy on Yahoo sports keeps talking about him?

Ultimately I'm not saying the US should do anything different than Argentina in finding a new coach.. call five people to come in for an interview. ask them some questions and then make a decision.. pay what you have to pay to get the right guy..

I hope the USSF does the right thing and doesn't simply pick Klinsmann without talking to others...

I know Argentina will do the wrong thing and pick Sabella when you have guys like Bianchi, Ramon Diaz, Gallego with far more experience.

In a way Sabella reminds me of Klinsmann.. he has like two years of experience as manager and did win the Libertadores.. not enough.

anyways, we'll see what happens but still haven't seen any compelling reason for why Klinsmann is the guy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 28, 2011, 10:55:17 pm
I looked into Klinsmann's coaching track record to see if maybe I was missing something..


NO. I was not. He has coached LESS than three years!

A grand total of a measly 79 games including dozens of meaningless friendlies !


I'm sorry.. its just not very much.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 29, 2011, 06:35:41 am
don't get me wrong, klinsman isn't perfect. i was merely focusing on your point about loew

if the us can get someone better, i'm all for it

i can't think of anyone available and willing to come here, though

i'd love hiddink, but i just feel like the alternative to klinsman is something in the sigi schmid or dominick kinnear range
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 29, 2011, 09:59:25 am
I don't know enough about the US national team so can't comment on the finer details. What I will say, and no disrespect to Americans, is they need a European manager but not Italian. The players are beginning to play the attacking European style rather than than the 'defense!! defense!! defense!!' style of years past. The talent pool is excellent now so the last piece of the puzzle is a manager to work with their skills.

If you look at the succesful teams, even at club level, they all play the style to suit the players, not coach the players to suit the style the manager wants. (Rednapp, Mourinho, Daglish, SAF etc.)


I'd say a German, Scottish or Dutch boss. The pool of English bosses right now is pretty much dried up for now.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 29, 2011, 12:48:10 pm
I got my man.

You can keep Maradona.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 29, 2011, 01:17:00 pm
I got my man.

You can keep Maradona.

Marafuckindonna???
I'd take Madona over that no-necked crack-monkey
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 29, 2011, 06:09:30 pm
I got my man.

You can keep Maradona.

huh?


I've been known to rant for hours on Diego... don't get me started...

I hope Klinsmann does great... I'd consider him an upgrade over Bradley.


but y'all can blow me
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/274/diegoandhutch.jpg)
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4383/morediegohutchaction.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 01, 2011, 09:50:47 am
I'm assuming those photo's were taken just before Diego asked your momma to leave the room so he could make you blow him?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 01, 2011, 03:36:24 pm
Hmmmmmmm...Joey Barton available on a free transfer. Much cheaper than Schneider and Fergie would most certainly keep him in order.


Interesting....very interesting!!!

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 01, 2011, 04:36:24 pm
I'm assuming those photo's were taken just before Diego asked your momma to leave the room so he could make you blow him?

Not aware of Diego asking little boys to blow him.. Henry though is another story..

Wait a minute! Didn't you take your son to meet him?  ;)

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 01, 2011, 05:42:21 pm
Hmmmmmmm...Joey Barton available on a free transfer. Much cheaper than Schneider and Fergie would most certainly keep him in order.

I only want him if he brings the moustache back.  From the moustache comes great strength and courage.

On another note, PSG have apparently lodged a 21m Euro bid for Berbatov.  If United were to do that, use the funds to grab Sneijder AND keep Nani.  Well, that would be quite the coup.

It's just the Mirror, but it looks like they read me:

Inter accept United's offer for Sneijder (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Manchester-United-offer-Wesley-Sneijder-accepted-Inter-Milan-set-give-permission-discuss-personal-terms-article780034.html)  Berbatov to be negotiated separately.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 01, 2011, 10:26:21 pm
flipping out over not being named captain and someone else taking set pieces? what a drama queen. no wonder he's so into moz
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 03, 2011, 06:46:35 pm

Thank you for reminding me.  The Community Shield.....another competition Carlos Tevez will likely never play in again.

He will play in the Community Shield by virtue of having won the FA Cup, though I'm sure he'd rather have won the league.

Oops. Looks like I conceded too soon:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/939626/carlos-tevez-holiday-extended-by-city,-will-miss-community-shield-?cc=5901

Looks like I was spot on there too.  I'm a transfer deadline deal away from correctly predicting Tevez's stay at City 100%...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 04, 2011, 10:29:46 am

Thank you for reminding me.  The Community Shield.....another competition Carlos Tevez will likely never play in again.

He will play in the Community Shield by virtue of having won the FA Cup, though I'm sure he'd rather have won the league.

Oops. Looks like I conceded too soon:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/939626/carlos-tevez-holiday-extended-by-city,-will-miss-community-shield-?cc=5901

Looks like I was spot on there too.  I'm a transfer deadline deal away from correctly predicting Tevez's stay at City 100%...


Mancini just wants the little prick to stay away....fucking cry-baby prima donna that he is.

It's funny how he acts like he's the best player in the world when he's not even the best player in Manchester....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 05, 2011, 07:17:33 pm
Gallagher on Mancini: "Mancini just wants the little prick to stay away..."

Mancini on Mancini: "I don't know. A lot can happen in one month but if he stays I am happy. Carlos is a professional player. If he doesn't have another team in the next 10 days or two weeks I think he will play for us and play serious like last year, like always."




Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 08, 2011, 09:48:06 am
Gallagher on Mancini: "Mancini just wants the little prick to stay away..."

Mancini on Mancini: "I don't know. A lot can happen in one month but if he stays I am happy. Carlos is a professional player. If he doesn't have another team in the next 10 days or two weeks I think he will play for us and play serious like last year, like always."






How about.....honor your contract you douche.

Mancini is a weak coach, that's no secret. How many bosses in any other job would say, "Well, if he doesn't get a better offer in a the next 10 days or so he'll probably stay with this company"?

This is a classic case case of the lunatic taking over the asylum.

BTW - How did you all like that Charity Shield game? If that's an example of what we're in store for it's going to be a hell of a season...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 09, 2011, 01:46:45 pm
BTW - How did you all like that Charity Shield game? If that's an example of what we're in store for it's going to be a hell of a season...

Holy shit were United entertaining as hell or was it just me?

I have the biggest chubby for Cleverley, and it was clear that he and Welbeck have been playing together for years.  Could you imagine designing a gameplan to defend against Chicharito and Welbeck up front with Rooney and Giggs dropped back?  That's ridiculous speed up front.

Other than De Gea, I thought they were brilliant.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 09, 2011, 02:01:36 pm
BTW - How did you all like that Charity Shield game? If that's an example of what we're in store for it's going to be a hell of a season...

Holy shit were United entertaining as hell or was it just me?

I have the biggest chubby for Cleverley, and it was clear that he and Welbeck have been playing together for years.  Could you imagine designing a gameplan to defend against Chicharito and Welbeck up front with Rooney and Giggs dropped back?  That's ridiculous speed up front.

Other than De Gea, I thought they were brilliant.

errr....umm...yeah, De Gea....Lindergaard? Are you available next Sunday?

Other than the goalie..talk about strength in depth. Even Anderson impressed me, an Anderson never impresses me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 09, 2011, 03:04:22 pm
errr....umm...yeah, De Gea....Lindergaard? Are you available next Sunday?

Forget Lindergaard.  Let this kid (http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/carlisle-united/latest/man-utd-strike-deal-to-sign-carlisle-utd-teenager-1.865979?referrerPath=home) play.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 10, 2011, 09:54:58 am
ooh-ooh....I think it's happening. The last piece of the puzzle is about to be put in place.!!!

Errr.....not so fast evidently. Looks like personal greed is killing this deal.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 11, 2011, 01:12:29 pm
I know Mexico had subbed a lot by then, but Shea partnered much better with Beckerman than Bradley and Jones did.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 12, 2011, 01:20:35 pm
ESPN2 switched to the Fulham v Aston Villa for the cancelled Spurs v Everton match for Saturday morning.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 13, 2011, 07:29:16 pm
could anyone else get stomped then slapped by a diver, and still come out the bad guy?

there truely is only one joey barton
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 15, 2011, 10:57:46 am
could anyone else get stomped then slapped by a diver, and still come out the bad guy?

there truely is only one joey barton

I suppose if you grab someone by the shirt and yank him up from the ground they might get a little pissed at you and retaliate....most would anyway.

Thank God there's only one of him.

Don't even get me started on 'diving' He got a tap to the forehead and went down like a $20 hooker.


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 15, 2011, 01:18:23 pm

I suppose if you grab someone by the shirt and yank him up from the ground they might get a little pissed at you and retaliate....most would anyway.


That was more entertaining than most of the football played in that match.  Gonna be a long season for the Gooners...

Mankie - talk to me about Mario Gtze...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 15, 2011, 03:19:05 pm

I suppose if you grab someone by the shirt and yank him up from the ground they might get a little pissed at you and retaliate....most would anyway.


That was more entertaining than most of the football played in that match.  Gonna be a long season for the Gooners...

Mankie - talk to me about Mario Gtze...

To be honest I think we've got our man to fill the void left by Scholesy in Jones.....but if Fergie thinks otherwise who am I to argue?

I bet smackie has a chubby with the news of Robbie Keane.....never rated him myself but I know you're a big fan.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 15, 2011, 08:48:05 pm
getting yanked up is hardly rare. yellow card offense, nothing worth retaliating with an obvious red worthy action

i agree with you that falling down looked bad, but joey has been on the other side of that enough times, and the blatant stomp didn't get called his way either

agreed it was an awful match though. what the heck does ever one of the thousand managers we've had see in shola? jesus

gtze is unreal. dortmund play breathtaking football and he's their crown jewel. kind of surprised they are only asking 20m. twice as good as henderson even with the english up charge
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 15, 2011, 08:56:45 pm
thoughts on macheda and diouf? rumor that both have been offered on loan
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 16, 2011, 10:21:42 am
thoughts on macheda and diouf? rumor that both have been offered on loan

Won't make the grade at United in my opinion. Average premiership player in Macheda. Diouf I don't know, I've only seen him play once and that was uninspiring.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 16, 2011, 01:11:18 pm
thoughts on macheda and diouf? rumor that both have been offered on loan

Won't make the grade at United in my opinion. Average premiership player in Macheda. Diouf I don't know, I've only seen him play once and that was uninspiring.

They will be loaned out as Welbeck clearly beat them out this pre-season (assuming Hernandez head injury isn't too serious and despite Welbeck's performance on Sunday, which was substantially less inspiring than his community shield performance).  The only chance either have for this season would be the sale of Berbatov, and even them I'm not sure.

I think they're both fine players who just need playing time.  Welbeck played a lot more last season than Macheada and it's showing.  If I were the Toon, Diouf is the one I would get if possible.  He's older and more mature than Macheada and has much more Premier League experience.

And Mankie - the kid's 19.  I think he'll be fine...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 16, 2011, 01:12:21 pm
gtze is unreal. dortmund play breathtaking football and he's their crown jewel. kind of surprised they are only asking 20m. twice as good as henderson even with the english up charge

Encouraging words.  I'll follow it more closely now.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 17, 2011, 01:25:11 pm
Evidently Wesley is now 'more untouchable' now Eto'o is on the way out. How can you be more untouchable than untouchable? You can either touch something or you can't.

Oh well, this means his probably at OT having a medical as I type.

Seriously, my gut is SAF is bored with Inter/Schneiders games so not interested anymore.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 17, 2011, 03:22:06 pm
Evidently Wesley is now 'more untouchable' now Eto'o is on the way out. How can you be more untouchable than untouchable? You can either touch something or you can't.

Oh well, this means his probably at OT having a medical as I type.

Seriously, my gut is SAF is bored with Inter/Schneiders games so not interested anymore.

more like man u is cheap as they have been for a few years now....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 17, 2011, 03:36:26 pm
Evidently Wesley is now 'more untouchable' now Eto'o is on the way out. How can you be more untouchable than untouchable? You can either touch something or you can't.

Oh well, this means his probably at OT having a medical as I type.

Seriously, my gut is SAF is bored with Inter/Schneiders games so not interested anymore.

more like man u is cheap as they have been for a few years now....

Hasn't done us much harm though eh?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 17, 2011, 10:41:46 pm
While i know it was inappropriate, i thought the chosen one's ear tug was one of the funniest things i've seen on the pitch in a while.  His facial expresins were priceless!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 18, 2011, 10:09:14 am
While i know it was inappropriate, i thought the chosen one's ear tug was one of the funniest things i've seen on the pitch in a while.  His facial expresins were priceless!

What was that all about?

Mourinho has become a circus clown at this point.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2011, 01:14:54 pm
What was that all about?

Mourinho has become a circus clown at this point.

Horrible, useless tackle to end an otherwise entertaining match, but this is hilarious.  The pinch at :28 and the face at :35.  Completely bizarre.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjwYYI9S2N8&feature=player_embedded#!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 18, 2011, 04:41:20 pm
What was that all about?

Mourinho has become a circus clown at this point.

Horrible, useless tackle to end an otherwise entertaining match, but this is hilarious.  The pinch at :28 and the face at :35.  Completely bizarre.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjwYYI9S2N8&feature=player_embedded#!


I saw it.....I thought it was a 'hey buddy" friendly kind of gesture. Obviously not though. Very juvenile if you ask me.

Can you imagine Wenger coming up to SAF to do that? Now that shit would be funny.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: serpent boy on August 18, 2011, 04:52:06 pm
I'm only a casual EPL fan and I've rooted for Norwich since I was a kid growing up in Lakenheath AFB.

What do you all think the Canaries chances are of surviving relegation this year?

Holt's been fairly prolific and the team made plenty of offseason moves to help bolster itself. Lambert's pretty competent as manager. I think they can finish 16th or 17th but they were just in League 1 two years ago!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2011, 05:05:20 pm
Lambert's pretty competent as manager.

He gets a lot of attention.  Just about every article I've read about Norwich has been more about him and his disintegration of last years team and less about this years team.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 18, 2011, 05:23:12 pm
I'm only a casual EPL fan and I've rooted for Norwich since I was a kid growing up in Lakenheath AFB.

What do you all think the Canaries chances are of surviving relegation this year?

Holt's been fairly prolific and the team made plenty of offseason moves to help bolster itself. Lambert's pretty competent as manager. I think they can finish 16th or 17th but they were just in League 1 two years ago!

I can't say if the Canaries will stay up but I hope they do. Same with Swansea.

In my perfect football world teams would be exempt from relegation for the first season after promotion to the premiership. This would give them a chance to benefit from the revenue of the premiership and build a team strong enough to survive.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on August 19, 2011, 10:40:40 am
interesting

"Of more long-term concern to Mourinho could be the damage to his own career. The Manchester United job might once have been his to turn down but will such a famous old institution want to be linked with a coach who dragged Madrid through the mire in an everything-goes pursuit of major honours?"

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/is-mourinho-still-worth-the-trouble-2340124.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 19, 2011, 01:08:09 pm
interesting

"Of more long-term concern to Mourinho could be the damage to his own career. The Manchester United job might once have been his to turn down but will such a famous old institution want to be linked with a coach who dragged Madrid through the mire in an everything-goes pursuit of major honours?"

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/is-mourinho-still-worth-the-trouble-2340124.html

I don't think Mourinho ever had a hope of the United job. But who knows? You're right that he has no chance at this point.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 20, 2011, 07:24:48 pm
upshot of a derby win at 9 am: more celebration time
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 23, 2011, 10:50:42 am
Manchester United youth team 3 -0 Tottenham Hotspur


YIKES!!! Doesn't bode very well for the rest of the premiership eh?

 :o
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 24, 2011, 12:01:37 pm
looks like joey bartons reign of terror might finally be over
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 24, 2011, 12:09:54 pm
looks like joey bartons reign of terror might finally be over

I would've taken him at OT anyday.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 24, 2011, 12:33:51 pm
good thing fergie is smarter than you
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 24, 2011, 01:07:32 pm
good thing fergie is smarter than you

Fergie is probably the only gaffer who can control him.

That's what I was thinking. He's a solid player but needs a tough manager to keep him under control.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 25, 2011, 12:49:52 pm
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW

GROUP A
Bayern Munich, Villarreal, Manchester City, Napoli

GROUP B
Inter Milan, CSKA Moscow, Lille, Trabzonspor

GROUP C
Manchester United, Benfica, Basle, Otelul Galati

GROUP D
Real Madrid, Lyon, Ajax, Dinamo Zagreb

GROUP E
Chelsea, Valencia, Bayer Leverkusen, Genk

GROUP F
Arsenal, Marseille, Olympiakos, Borussia Dortmund

GROUP G
Porto, Shakhtar Donetsk, Zenit St Petersburg, APOEL

GROUP H
Barcelona, AC Milan, BATE, Viktoria Plzen
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 25, 2011, 01:10:36 pm
Shitty's European campaign will be short lived then!!!

Arse are done too.

Who the hell is Otelul Galati?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 25, 2011, 01:36:13 pm
Who the hell is Otelul Galati?

Nice enough chap, but United should be able to beat one guy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 25, 2011, 03:03:44 pm
Who the hell is Otelul Galati?

Nice enough chap, but United should be able to beat one guy.

I work with a Romanian chap. He tells me their league runs on politics, and just steps over the match-fixing line now and again. Think the English FA telling the refs who should win the Premiership then leaving it up to them.......
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 26, 2011, 06:51:47 am
i figured whoever got dortmund was going to the hardest group

also, i still hate the league cup
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 26, 2011, 10:04:48 am
i figured whoever got dortmund was going to the hardest group

also, i still hate the league cup

As United fan I like the league cup because it gives our fringe players opportunity, but as a football fan I agree it's a pain in the arse really. Bigger teams don't take it seriously and sturggling teams have to deal with it when they have more important things to worry about, like position in their respective leagues.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 29, 2011, 09:33:15 am
Errr.....YIKES!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 30, 2011, 11:09:44 am
heres a great way to ingratiate yourself with Utd fans

make a shitload of money while not playing for 4 yeaas and then turn around and sign for City

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/30/owen-hargreaves-transfer

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 30, 2011, 11:13:37 am
Let them have him.  He offered to play for free for United and they were smart enough to know that his medical bills alone will cost 35k per week.

He was fine in training multiple times and couldn't go more 20 mins in real competition.

(though, if he is healthy, Spurs is a better fit and I'm taking down the poster that hangs above my bed)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 30, 2011, 12:21:32 pm
Meh.....If United released him he's free to play for whoever he wants so no hard feelings on my part.

I do think it's a waste of time. The bloke obviously has knees that aren't up to this level of use anymore. He should go the Gary Neville route and become a really good panelist.

City will probably get a handful of games out of him...just hope they bench him against Stoke or he'll be finished.

I still say Drogba dived though!!!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 30, 2011, 12:28:12 pm
I still say Drogba dived though!!!!!!  ;)

This was my tweet from the weekend:

For all the times I've seen Drogba fake death on the pitch, this time I really think he might have done it.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 30, 2011, 12:45:35 pm
I had to chuckle that the goalie poked him to see if he was faking it as usual...then his own fucking team mate came up and did the same!!!

He bounced very nicely though. I'll give him that....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 30, 2011, 02:50:28 pm
Hargreaves is a trending topic on twitter (Baltimore) - must be a slow news day
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 30, 2011, 06:01:41 pm
probably worth a punt for city, they only need him for the african nations cup

can't believe toon signed a full back. with italian caps none the less
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 31, 2011, 10:26:10 am
What do you think the last minute blockbuster deal will be in the EPL?

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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 31, 2011, 11:21:16 am
"At Milan airport and just spotted Sneijder and two men get through security check... I am an Inter fan and sadly I am not lying."

Hmmmmmm......is Fergie pulling a last minute deal or did City step up to his 300k quid a week demands?
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Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2011, 01:50:59 pm
What do you think the last minute blockbuster deal will be in the EPL?

Clint Dempsey moves to The Emirates?
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Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2011, 02:43:22 pm
Hargreaves is a trending topic on twitter (Baltimore) - must be a slow news day

Manchester City have confirmed they have signed Owen Hargreaves on a one-year deal.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 31, 2011, 03:16:09 pm
Hargreaves is a trending topic on twitter (Baltimore) - must be a slow news day

Manchester City have confirmed they have signed Owen Hargreaves on a one-year deal.

They're an ugly team so he just raised the bar in the looks dept. on the bench.

Wenger still spending money like it's his own.....TIGHT ARSE!

I'd be beyond pissed at this point if I was an gooner .
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 31, 2011, 04:11:19 pm
good chance i might crack up in the next couple of hours
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 31, 2011, 04:55:59 pm
Arteta for 10mil??? Everton have lost their freaking minds.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 31, 2011, 05:09:02 pm
2206: Any of you wondering what is happening with Bryan Ruiz? BBC Sport's Saj Chowdhury reports that Newcastle had a 12m bid for the FC Twente striker accepted, but the move broke down over the Costa Rican's personal terms. The Magpies will not be doing any more transfer business in this window... so, over to you Fulham.

From the BBC
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 31, 2011, 07:24:23 pm
awful. half doubt they ever put in a bid

risky move for everton, but they need the money
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 01, 2011, 11:34:52 am
awful. half doubt they ever put in a bid

risky move for everton, but they need the money

My good mate is a Toffees fan...he said their lack of money is only matched by their lack of ambition
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Post by: vansmack on September 09, 2011, 01:28:37 pm
The fact that this stuff happens is incredible to me:

Inter Sorry for the Forlan Error (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/954323/inter-milan-included-diego-forlan-in-ucl-squad-by-mistake?cc=5901)

The first thing I texted my buddy when I got the Forlan announcement from him was:  Must be going for the domestic title, cause he can't play in Europe...

How did they not know this?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 09, 2011, 04:41:36 pm
The fact that this stuff happens is incredible to me:

Inter Sorry for the Forlan Error (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/954323/inter-milan-included-diego-forlan-in-ucl-squad-by-mistake?cc=5901)

The first thing I texted my buddy when I got the Forlan announcement from him was:  Must be going for the domestic title, cause he can't play in Europe...

How did they not know this?

err......they're Italian???
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 09, 2011, 07:44:27 pm
except for the players that is
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 09, 2011, 07:45:16 pm
also i'm guessing some sort of bribe didn't work out right
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 12, 2011, 11:58:22 am
can't believe today's match is on espn deportes only
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Post by: vansmack on September 12, 2011, 12:06:22 pm
can't believe today's match is on espn deportes only

It's on ESPN3 too.... ;)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 12, 2011, 12:52:16 pm
blocked at work with no replays

actually the no replay part is the most puzzling
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 12, 2011, 03:09:38 pm
Do you think United and City are playing 'anything you can do I can do better'?

City win 5-1 so United win 8-2
City win 3-0 so United win 5-0

I know this goal orgy can't go on indefinately but I am enjoying it while I can. I thought United looked better than they did against Arse.

I wonder what controversy Barton can cause tonight?
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Post by: vansmack on September 12, 2011, 03:41:01 pm
I know this goal orgy can't go on indefinately but I am enjoying it while I can. I thought United looked better than they did against Arse.

I'm not quite there yet, but I'm on the verge of saying "We're watching something really special this season."
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 12, 2011, 04:36:26 pm
By all accounts if QPR could shoot straight Toon would be getting hammered.
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Post by: vansmack on September 12, 2011, 04:56:47 pm
By all accounts if QPR could shoot straight Toon would be getting hammered.

No joke.  Lucky to escape with a point.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 12, 2011, 05:52:10 pm
you mean the undefeated newcastle united, the fourth in the table toon, or both?
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Post by: vansmack on September 12, 2011, 06:29:07 pm
you mean the undefeated newcastle united, the fourth in the table toon, or both?

Time to fire the coach and sell the stars, eh?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 12, 2011, 07:10:45 pm
im sure mike ashley is huddling in a casino somewhere thinking "how can i fuck this up"
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Post by: vansmack on September 12, 2011, 10:34:46 pm
im sure mike ashley is huddling in a casino somewhere thinking "how can i fuck this up"

I want Obertan back (http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/kits/85981/newcastle-launch-skimpy-lingerie-range-inspired-by-gabriel-obertan-photos.html). The guys a genius...
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 13, 2011, 10:04:42 am
you mean the undefeated newcastle united, the fourth in the table toon, or both?

I'd print the league table RIGHT NOW and put it on your fridge.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 13, 2011, 10:05:53 am
im sure mike ashley is huddling in a casino somewhere thinking "how can i fuck this up"

I want Obertan back (http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/kits/85981/newcastle-launch-skimpy-lingerie-range-inspired-by-gabriel-obertan-photos.html). The guys a genius...

Geordie girls wear undies??? I never met one.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 13, 2011, 02:22:24 pm
you mean the undefeated newcastle united, the fourth in the table toon, or both?

I'd print the league table RIGHT NOW and put it on your fridge.
same to you good sir
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 13, 2011, 05:25:58 pm
you mean the undefeated newcastle united, the fourth in the table toon, or both?

I'd print the league table RIGHT NOW and put it on your fridge.
same to you good sir

Seriously...who's going to score goals for Toon?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 13, 2011, 06:19:29 pm
no losses, fourth place with 7 new players no left back and the best player sidelined and that's still not good enough? what exactly are you expecting from newcastle united on sept 13?
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Post by: vansmack on September 13, 2011, 07:06:44 pm
what exactly are you expecting from newcastle united on sept 13?

More ladies underwear....
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 13, 2011, 09:25:03 pm
thats your answer to everything
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 15, 2011, 09:12:51 am
what exactly are you expecting from newcastle united on sept 13?

More ladies underwear....

LESS ladies underwear
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Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2011, 02:10:36 pm
LESS ladies underwear

Touche
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 16, 2011, 11:57:57 am
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/16092011/58/premier-league-united-set-qatar-takeover.html

Although it would be nice to rid ourselves of the Glazers and the debt they buried us with. United have shown time and time again that success is achieved via a youth system, not a checkbook...So no big spending required. (imo)

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Post by: sweetcell on September 16, 2011, 01:18:53 pm
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/16092011/58/premier-league-united-set-qatar-takeover.html

Although it would be nice to rid ourselves of the Glazers and the debt they buried us with. United have shown time and time again that success is achieved via a youth system, not a checkbook...So no big spending required. (imo)

according to this website (http://www.trophy4toon.co.uk/salaries.html) (scroll down to bottom), ManU has the second-highest payroll so it appears that they are in fact spending big.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 16, 2011, 01:51:02 pm
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/16092011/58/premier-league-united-set-qatar-takeover.html

Although it would be nice to rid ourselves of the Glazers and the debt they buried us with. United have shown time and time again that success is achieved via a youth system, not a checkbook...So no big spending required. (imo)

according to this website (http://www.trophy4toon.co.uk/salaries.html) (scroll down to bottom), ManU has the second-highest payroll so it appears that they are in fact spending big.

PAYROLL....not transfer fees.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 16, 2011, 02:05:34 pm
among teams that have tons of money, it's hard to argue that manu are not the gold standard

but they spent 18m on a keeper this summer
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Post by: vansmack on September 16, 2011, 02:13:39 pm
but they spent 18m on a keeper this summer

21.5m pounds on two keepers last year.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 16, 2011, 04:10:43 pm
I dont' have the time right now but it would be interesting to see who spent what on transfer fees over the last 5 years.....taking into consideration income from outgoing transfers.


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Post by: vansmack on September 16, 2011, 05:03:24 pm
PAYROLL....not transfer fees.

I agree, Payroll is highly different than Transfer fees.

Plus that's old info.  Here's the 2010 numbers:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-il4N-5YZbzg/Tmc5mG3GvAI/AAAAAAAAD9I/nECrRijNAzA/s400/18%2BUnited%2BWages%2BLeague.jpg)

This year I think you'll see Chelsea's come down a bit and City's will rise dramatically.  United's has gone up 21m, so all three are probably going to be around 150m.  To put that into perspective, the other big clubs in 2010: 2010: Barcelona 233 million, Inter 207 million, Real Madrid 166 million and Milan 152 million.

And when looking at the Ratio to Turnover, they're doing just fine.  By far the best in the league when compared to performance, and I'm sure it's probably better than teams on the continent, though the appreciation of the Euro (for now) against the Sterling may change all that.

That low ratio number would suggest hat Mankie's argument that United are being very careful with their buying, while other teams are paying big bucks for United's players is a sound one.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 16, 2011, 09:16:04 pm
that's not what he said though. he said no need to spend big, which manu do very well
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 16, 2011, 09:29:51 pm
i like that wba pays more per player than the islanders though
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6354899
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 19, 2011, 09:51:22 am
that's not what he said though. he said no need to spend big, which manu do very well

I meant compared to their revenue.

If you or I buy a Ferrari (yeah right) and Warren Buffet buys the same model Ferrari. We SPENT BIG, but Mr. Buffet just got rid of the loose change in his pocket.

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Post by: vansmack on September 20, 2011, 06:50:52 pm
The squad Sir Alex put out for tonight's Carling Cup match was, on average, 3.4 years older than the one that started Sunday's Premier League triumph over Chelsea.

Depth/
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 21, 2011, 09:21:40 am
The squad Sir Alex put out for tonight's Carling Cup match was, on average, 3.4 years older than the one that started Sunday's Premier League triumph over Chelsea.

Depth/

Beating Leeds just never gets old. I kind of miss them in the Premiership to be honest. The rivalry with them is second only to the pikeys.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 21, 2011, 01:35:20 pm
finally saw the damned united this week. dirty dirty leeds

id bet money we get a big 4 away in the next round
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 21, 2011, 03:18:29 pm
2004: Yes, you read right. Owen Hargreaves has scored - it was a belter from outside the area. By the way, this is the first time the midfielder has played more than 10 minutes of first-team football in three years.

OUCH! That stings a bit, I must admit...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 24, 2011, 09:44:46 pm
i know it's only september, but man to toon looked good today

only september
 ;D
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 26, 2011, 01:07:46 pm
I was gutted United only drew.....then I got over myself and realized I was being a spoiled brat and happy United got a point at Stoke. Not many teams will manage that this year.

A little concerned at the length of the line outside the Old Trafford medical room though.

I didn't get to see any games this weekend so don't know who played well and who got lucky etc. (my mate, a fellow United fan, did tell me United were a bit lucky apart from a couple of stonewall penalty calls that weren't given our way)

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Post by: vansmack on September 26, 2011, 01:21:27 pm
The Britannia has really grown into being an extremely difficult place to play.  Should have had a penalty on the Hernandez injury play, but yes, 8 top flight players might miss the Champions League game this week.  That's a bit worrisome.  All in all, Stoke deserved at least a point, but it would have been interesting to see if Cheech had played more than 4 minutes or if Rooney had played at all.

I'm coming around on De Gea and I think Phil Jones has been the best signing of the off season.  Strong defense, great going forward.  Once the twins and Vidic are healthy, it will very interesting to see him in the midfield.

Oh, and I miss Cleverly.

The penalty given to Villa yesterday was a joke.  QPR deserved 3 points...
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 27, 2011, 09:53:42 am
Okay...so I just saw the United v Stoke game last night.

A pk and red card to Woodgate in the first 5 minutes and a couple of yellows thrown in by minute 11. What were Stoke thinking? If you can't beat them break their legs?

The handball shout in the second half was indeed a penalty if following the laws of the game (deliberate or arm not in a natural position) his arm was not in a natural position. I can see a ref not giving that call though.

All that being said, United had no shape and completely out of sync, which I think Stoke should get credit for. As for Crouch, he commits a foul every single time he goes in for a challenge but I think the officials cut him some slack because he's so lanky and awkward.

I also saw that bogus pk to Villa, I bet that ref is working league two next week. None of the fans or players called for a pk.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 27, 2011, 05:14:28 pm
Oh dear.......Crisis time at OT. Two draws in a row, and two draws in the champs lge.

At least we aren't man shitty were players refuse to come off the bench!!!  ;D
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Post by: hutch on September 27, 2011, 05:33:47 pm
 :o
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 27, 2011, 05:49:20 pm
:o

So what do you think about your man Tevez now then?
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Post by: vansmack on September 27, 2011, 06:14:00 pm
Great, but he'll never play in a Champions League game, let alone a Final so long as he's at City.  

So that makes me right again.  A perfect score of 100% in my predictions of Carlos Tevez at Man City.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 27, 2011, 06:42:36 pm
Great, but he'll never play in a Champions League game, let alone a Final so long as he's at City.  

So that makes me right again.  A perfect score of 100% in my predictions of Carlos Tevez at Man City.

Chelski aren't far behind because Lampard is now belly-aching because his arse is getting numb from sitting on the bench.

Oh...dont' you love the drama as long as it's not within your own team?

 ;D
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Post by: vansmack on September 28, 2011, 06:51:28 pm
Damn.

Stuart Holden Out six More Months (http://fourfourtwo.com/news/england/86877/default.aspx)
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 30, 2011, 10:09:14 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/296150_10150316883364272_603004271_8100998_1684636786_n.jpg)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 30, 2011, 12:14:51 pm
maybe he can win the championship with wet spam
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Post by: sweetcell on October 04, 2011, 05:46:46 pm
i'll let gallagher provide the commentary on this one:

Football broadcasting faces shake-up after historic court ruling http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/04/sport/football/football-tv-rights-europe/index.html
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Post by: vansmack on October 04, 2011, 06:13:12 pm
i'll let gallagher provide the commentary on this one:

Football broadcasting faces shake-up after historic court ruling http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/04/sport/football/football-tv-rights-europe/index.html

I too will defer to Mankie, but that did remind me of something I wanted to say.

How great is Gary Neville a a commentator?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 04, 2011, 06:28:49 pm
i'll let gallagher provide the commentary on this one:

Football broadcasting faces shake-up after historic court ruling http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/04/sport/football/football-tv-rights-europe/index.html

I too will defer to Mankie, but that did remind me of something I wanted to say.

How great is Gary Neville a a commentator?

Neville does a great job eh? Plus the manc accent is the icing on the cake for me.

As for the court ruling....I think it just means people will not now be breaking laws that were never enforced in the first place. The monopoly Sky once had is now over. I hated those fuckers when I lived in Cork....Sky Sports 1 was the first premium and Sky Sports 2 the second level.....only they put half of  Man U's games on 1 and half on 2. I just went down to the pub to watch the games...that were being received by one of those foreign recievers!!!!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 12, 2011, 10:34:50 am
So a coworker watched the Mexico game last night....he tried to wind me up by saying. "Chicarito is shit. I wouldn't pay 10 million for him"....."United paid 9 million" I replied. "RM have just offered 30mil for him"


Shut the bastard right up!!!

 ;D
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Post by: godsshoeshine on October 12, 2011, 03:50:07 pm
so it seems that liverpool didn't have that 35m they spent in the summer after all
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/early-doors/article/351823/
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 12, 2011, 05:31:05 pm
so it seems that liverpool didn't have that 35m they spent in the summer after all
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/early-doors/article/351823/

Nobody outside of merseyside watches those fuckers anyway...they're living in dream world.....
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Post by: vansmack on October 13, 2011, 10:44:38 am
As if that own goal on Tuesday wasn't enough, Ireland Drew Estonia in the Euro playoff...
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Post by: vansmack on October 13, 2011, 01:50:05 pm
Rooney got 3 game suspension for Euro 2012.  That might mean you have to leave him off the roster depending on the draw.

(good for United though)
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 13, 2011, 03:17:48 pm
Rooney got 3 game suspension for Euro 2012.  That might mean you have to leave him off the roster depending on the draw.

(good for United though)

It's all good.....Definately good for United, and England should make it through the group stages without him, so can bring him in all fresh, rested and hungry for the knock out stages.


Personally? - I couldn't give a rats arse about international football. It just gets in the way of the important stuff like the EPL as far as I'm concerned..
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Post by: vansmack on October 13, 2011, 04:11:42 pm
Chicharito inked a new 5 year deal with United today.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 14, 2011, 09:09:23 am
Chicharito inked a new 5 year deal with United today.

(http://chronicle.com/blogs/linguafranca/files/2011/09/LikeButton.gif)

I guess that's a subtle way of telling RM to shove their 30mil up their arse.
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Post by: vansmack on October 18, 2011, 02:47:22 pm
I woke up this morning to a wonderful surprise.  Comcast Bay Area added FSCHD to their lineup.  That only took 22 months....
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 19, 2011, 10:55:12 am
So???? Did it deserve red? I haven't seen the game yet but manutd.com said it was 'harsh' and the bbc 'shocking decision by the ref'

One of my fellow ref friends said it was probably a red in Europe but so was the deliberate handball that gave away the pk, so the ref was inconsistent.
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Post by: vansmack on October 19, 2011, 12:50:02 pm
So???? Did it deserve red? I haven't seen the game yet but manutd.com said it was 'harsh' and the bbc 'shocking decision by the ref'

One of my fellow ref friends said it was probably a red in Europe but so was the deliberate handball that gave away the pk, so the ref was inconsistent.

Not a red in England, that's for sure.  You're friend is probably right though - a European official who hasn't seen a lot of tackling would probably think it's the most egregious thing he's ever seen...
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Post by: vansmack on October 21, 2011, 12:36:00 pm
This was a bit of a surprise...

FOX Sports wins bid to televise 2018 and 2012 World Cups in America (http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/7130785/fox-sports-wins-bid-espn-nbc-televise-world-cup-2018-22)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on October 21, 2011, 12:54:29 pm
at least fox puts epl games they have exclusive rights to on channels i get
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Post by: hutch on October 21, 2011, 01:26:29 pm
great news! Espn/abc'S coverage has been pitiful..constantly dumbing down the game to appeal to those that don't have a clue about it.... they spend all their time appealing to those that don't like soccer at the expense of those that do! hope we don't hear more comparisons to american football..

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Post by: joker362514 on October 22, 2011, 12:44:42 am
Hutch - How can you be serious?  ESPN's presentation of the 2010 and 2011 World Cups was absolutely spot on.  Take a look at Fox's pregame coverage of last years Champions League final - it included a segment from Michael Strahan on how soccer compares to American football, and a segment concerning Shakira and Pique's budding relationship.  What a joke. Plus, Curt Menafee sounds like a clown when he is discussing soccer (he's not that much better for football either).

That being said, they have 7 years to fix the problem.  Let's hope they do.  They could start by mimicking how BBC/SKY treat the pregames.  Not much fluff.  Just strong analysis and top flight commentators.

 Personally, I think it is a huge loss for the growth of American soccer.  Hopefully I am proven wrong, as I am sure we all want to game to continue to grow and spread in popularity. 
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Post by: hutch on October 22, 2011, 12:50:37 am
hmmm.. maybe i got my cables crossed..


strahan was on fox


oops.

 :-[
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Post by: vansmack on October 22, 2011, 04:25:13 pm
Thanks Joker - you're spot on.
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Post by: vansmack on October 23, 2011, 11:07:01 am
Jonny. Evans #suckadick
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2011, 12:42:27 pm
hope gallagher didn't take his life or something...

its not worth it man.. so your team got thumped 6-1 by "shitty"... so what?

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Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2011, 07:07:36 pm
it's october...
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Post by: hutch on October 25, 2011, 07:36:55 pm
it's october...


Exactly.. not worth it.. so your crosstown rivals kicked your ass and humiliated you.. so bloody what!
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Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2011, 07:40:10 pm
Did Tevez play?
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Post by: hutch on October 25, 2011, 08:26:28 pm
Did Tevez play?


Tevez shmevez.


Aguero did play! Scored in fact!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2011, 10:28:12 pm
ok

kind of bitter that espn2 doesn't have the monday match AGAIN and the cup match against blackburn isn't shown here either
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Post by: vansmack on October 27, 2011, 02:44:29 pm
ok

kind of bitter that espn2 doesn't have the monday match AGAIN and the cup match against blackburn isn't shown here either

How about the fact that United's match is not broadcast at all this weekend on FSC, FSC+ or ESPN?  Pretty shocking.

ESPN3 at 4:00AM?  Really?  I have to check to see if I can get Deportes somehow so I can tape it and hear them gush about Chicharito all match in Espanol....
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Post by: godsshoeshine on October 27, 2011, 07:52:40 pm
what could espn possibly have on like 5 networks instead of live sports they already paid for at 7am or 4pm eastern
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Post by: godsshoeshine on October 31, 2011, 09:38:41 pm
stoke city is a joke. bellyaching about the towels, the miniature pitch. awful

espn3 worked on demand, by the way
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 08, 2011, 03:31:30 pm
watched toon and then the man u game with a bunch of guys from the uk in a smackie recommended vegas pub this weekend. now i cant get "the city is yours" out of my head
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Post by: vansmack on November 08, 2011, 03:44:52 pm
watched toon and then the man u game with a bunch of guys from the uk in a smackie recommended vegas pub this weekend. now i cant get "the city is yours" out of my head

Nice, glad you enjoyed it!

This should help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GjtVzSU3w4

I actually had to watch United recorded in a bar (stupid Comcast not offering FSC+).  Knowing that my favorite pub records all the matches, I walked in wearing ear plugs and handed the bartender a note that said:

"I have not seen the Man United match, nor do I know the result. I would appreciate it if you could put it on one of the TV's in the back.

Oh, and I'll take a Guinness.

Smackie"

He loved that...
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Post by: vansmack on November 08, 2011, 04:19:45 pm
Liverpool Sign up USA teen Pelosi (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/981412/liverpool-sign-up-usa-teenager-marc-pelosi?cc=5901)
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Post by: vansmack on November 08, 2011, 08:19:28 pm
The Economist on Sir Alex:

25 Years of Alex Ferguson (http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2011/11/25-years-alex-ferguson)
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Post by: brennser on November 11, 2011, 08:15:59 pm
4-0!! Looks like we'll be back at the Euros for the first time in 24 years!
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Post by: vansmack on November 14, 2011, 02:24:40 pm
4-0!! Looks like we'll be back at the Euros for the first time in 24 years!

I was hammered all weekend because this game went so well.  I sobered up for a 10 mile run and got right back at it.  Even the Irish can't fuck up a 4 goal lead at home...

This is going to make Poland-Ukraine so much more enjoyable.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 14, 2011, 02:45:16 pm
now i dont have to root for france!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 18, 2011, 05:26:56 pm
i won't be able to watch toon live, tiote is out, we may well get tonked and i'm still fucking pumped that the international break is over

that is all
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Post by: vansmack on November 18, 2011, 06:11:41 pm
i won't be able to watch toon live, tiote is out, we may well get tonked and i'm still fucking pumped that the international break is over

that is all

Me too!  And I'm well aware of next week's matchup....
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Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 18, 2011, 09:28:36 pm
can someone tell me exactly what john terry said?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 19, 2011, 09:33:17 am
called anton ferdnand a black cunt

no player or official heard it though, it was a fan that brought the complaint forth

the evra case is more interesting, the fa must have some evidence if they are charging suarez
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Post by: vansmack on November 22, 2011, 02:02:12 pm
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I'm watching on my Monsoon Vulkano...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 25, 2011, 12:37:53 pm
tiote definitely out, guthrie could be out too. ouch
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Post by: brennser on November 27, 2011, 12:09:29 pm
Gary Speed RIP - only 42, and presiding over Wales best form in generations - terribly sad
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Post by: vansmack on December 02, 2011, 01:57:37 pm
Oh well.  I guess Ireland should just be happy to be there.

A is disgusting.
B is just brutal.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on December 02, 2011, 09:08:07 pm
group a is what we all feared with the two weak hosts
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 12, 2011, 04:37:41 pm
called anton ferdnand a black cunt

no player or official heard it though, it was a fan that brought the complaint forth

the evra case is more interesting, the fa must have some evidence if they are charging suarez

Replace 'black' with 'English' 'Irish' 'Yank' etc. etc. and would it be 'racially abusive'?  Blacks need to stop this shit already. While I'm on my rant why is it a 'holiday tree' but not a 'holiday candle' for the menorah doo-hickey? I had to go into a middle school today and saw 'holiday candles' all over the place but not a single 'holiday tree' to be seen.....

BTW - Toon's fall from grace is perfect karma after stealing 2 points from us at OT. I wouldn't put that AR on a Sunday pub league game after that debacle. He wasn't even in position to make a call either way.

Okay, carry on....
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Post by: vansmack on December 12, 2011, 07:53:55 pm
Merry Christmas, Mankie.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on December 12, 2011, 09:17:00 pm


I wouldn't put that AR on a Sunday pub league game after that debacle. He wasn't even in position to make a call either way.

Okay, carry on....
i agree the foul on taylor that lead to the manc goal was a horrible call
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Post by: vansmack on December 20, 2011, 04:42:03 pm
the evra case is more interesting, the fa must have some evidence if they are charging suarez

Understatement.  Suarez fined 40,000 and banned for 8 matches...
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 21, 2011, 10:17:38 am
the evra case is more interesting, the fa must have some evidence if they are charging suarez

Understatement.  Suarez fined 40,000 and banned for 8 matches...

Political bullshit with the Terry case. How can the FA find their national captain guilty of racism???
 FA = Fucking Arseholes.

Does anybody know what Suarez said? I assume it started with N and ended with gger

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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 05, 2012, 07:36:23 am
i now love the festive season fixture madness
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Post by: vansmack on January 06, 2012, 01:55:41 pm
Does anybody know what Suarez said? I assume it started with N and ended with gger


They released the report (mind you, this is the English, translation.  In Spanish he said "negro"):

One of the key passages of the report centres on what was said between the two players during the flashpoint.

It reads: "Our findings of fact which are directly relevant to the Charge are as follows: (1) In response to Mr Evra's question 'F*****g hell, why did you kick me,' Mr Suarez said 'Because you are black'.

"(2) In response to Mr Evra's comment 'Say it to me again, I'm going to punch you,' Mr Suarez said 'I don't speak to blacks'.

"(3) In response to Mr Evra's comment: 'Okay, now I think I'm going to punch you,' Mr Suarez said 'Okay, blackie, blackie, blackie'."

Suarez originally denied the charge and said he "used the word 'negro' in a way with which he was familiar from his upbringing in Uruguay".
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Post by: sweetcell on January 06, 2012, 02:05:42 pm
in case this interests anyone here: i tossed a football* with rafa marquez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Marquez) on a beach in mexico over the holidays.  he throws a decent spiral.  nice guy.

*an american football.  he didn't want to play soccer b/c of risk of injury.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 17, 2012, 08:46:41 pm
what a statement (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/7439451/Cisse-completes-Magpies-move)
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Post by: sweetcell on January 18, 2012, 11:00:10 am
Soccer Star Diagnosed With Chronic MLS
http://www.theonion.com/articles/soccer-star-diagnosed-with-chronic-mls,26415/
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Post by: vansmack on January 24, 2012, 01:51:37 pm
gtze is unreal. dortmund play breathtaking football and he's their crown jewel. kind of surprised they are only asking 20m. twice as good as henderson even with the english up charge

Out two months with a stress fracture on the pubic bone. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1012547/mario-gotze-out-for-up-to-two-months?cc=5901)

Ouch.
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Post by: hutch on January 24, 2012, 01:55:36 pm
I know its hard for people to understand other cultures but in Latin America  people use the word "negro" in a totally different way..For example I have a friend who calls me "negro" as a term of affection..I don't really care for it cause i'm so americanized I have trouble with it... now if you say "Negro de mierda" thats different..


I'm not defending Suarez just saying in Uruguay/Argentina I can vouch for fact that white people use the word "negro" all the time even when speaking of white people and its not necessarily done in a pejorative way.. there just isn't that history of deep racism down there so it doesn't have the same weight/impact....
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Post by: vansmack on January 24, 2012, 02:00:49 pm
You can search this thread for a similar defense/conversation I had with boardie barcelona about the way Spaniards handled a similar situation in the UCL a couple years back (I believe it centered around gorilla noises every time a player from Africa touched the ball).  We agreed to disagree and moved on.
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Post by: hutch on January 24, 2012, 02:08:48 pm
You can search this thread for a similar defense/conversation I had with boardie barcelona about the way Spaniards handled a similar situation in the UCL a couple years back (I believe it centered around gorilla noises every time a player from Africa touched the ball).  We agreed to disagree and moved on.


hmm... gorilla noises? that seems like a different league...


well it ain't nothing to me anyways.. i'm sure suarez got his just deserts
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 01, 2012, 07:02:12 pm
apparently the toon had no business winning today. i say apparently because espn doesn't want me to watch programming they paid millions of dollars for

in any case, 5th in february. take that all day
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Post by: brennser on February 03, 2012, 10:42:46 pm
as always, smackie is right  ::)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/03/david-pizarro-owen-hargreaves-manchester-city


Let them have him.  He offered to play for free for United and they were smart enough to know that his medical bills alone will cost 35k per week.

He was fine in training multiple times and couldn't go more 20 mins in real competition.

(though, if he is healthy, Spurs is a better fit and I'm taking down the poster that hangs above my bed)
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Post by: vansmack on February 06, 2012, 08:43:19 pm
as always, smackie is right  ::)

I didn't throw away the poster, but I'm not putting it back up.  I was lucky enough to get one of the new H&M David Beckham posters.  Yummy...and his name is on my underwear again, without me having to steal his this time!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 08, 2012, 04:31:37 pm
never change england
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Post by: hutch on February 08, 2012, 06:32:21 pm
They should have fired him after South Africa.. that was embarrassing... Was only Capello to blame? Of course not but it seemed he could not get any response from his team.. it just seemed like he had lost them..


Anyways, its kind of funny because I always want England to do poorly and they do under perform but the other team that has really under performed the past two decades is unfortunately Argentina!
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Post by: vansmack on February 08, 2012, 07:40:09 pm
never change england

Remarkable, ain't it?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 08, 2012, 08:17:56 pm
i agree, they should have moved on after south africa. and yet they stuck with capello and he kept picking the same old, slow players. the euros wouldnt be any different either, and fabio knew it. no one folds a winning hand for the honor of 31 year old scumbag like terry
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Post by: fatskippy on February 09, 2012, 05:59:20 pm
Brazil vs US exhibition at FedEx in May

http://cnnsi.com/2012/soccer/02/09/us.brazil.ap/index.html?sct=sc_t2_a4
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Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2012, 12:34:47 pm
@FourFourTom: Luis Suarez wasn't being pathetic - refusal to shake someone's hand is a compliment in Uruguay, plus his grandfather had hands.
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Post by: brennser on February 11, 2012, 01:23:44 pm
absolutely shocking. No class whatsoever. and king kenny continues to defend him

sad to see a great club decline so much on and off the field

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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 12, 2012, 10:28:06 am
(http://i.minus.com/iCn6MOjdeRcSr.gif)
never been happier with an over celebration that didn't involve one of my teams
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Post by: brennser on February 12, 2012, 11:38:07 am
its definitely too little and too late but finally, finally common sense seems to be prevailing

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/12/luis-suarez-issues-apology-patrice-evra
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Post by: hutch on February 13, 2012, 03:31:15 pm
Tevez says he's returning to City.. gave an interview blaming Mancini for everything,etc. ...not sure anyone will want him back though!
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Post by: hutch on March 08, 2012, 09:35:20 am
Messi five goals yesterday.. .playing at a crazy high level!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 08, 2012, 09:21:27 pm
nothing messi can do will surprise me

apoel going through however...
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Post by: vansmack on March 12, 2012, 12:48:44 pm
- PREMIERSHIP -
Monday, March 12, 2012

4:00pm Arsenal v Newcastle (ESPN2/3 Live)

- PREMIERSHIP -
Tuesday, March 13, 2012

4:00pm Liverpool v Everton (ESPN 2/3 Live)

Champions League Round of 16 Leg 2

Tuesday, March 13th, 2012:
2:45pm Bayern Mnchen v Basel
2:45pm Inter Milan v Marseille

Wednesday, March 14th, 2012:
2:45pm Real Madrid v CSKA Moscow
2:45pm Chelsea v Napoli 


EUROPA Round of 16 - 2nd leg

Thursday, March 15th, 2012:
2:00pm Athletic Bilbao v Manchester Utd. GOL-TV
2:00pm Hannover v Standard Lige DirecTV
2:00pm PSV Eindhoven v Valencia DirecTV
2:00pm Udinese v AZ Alkmaar DirecTV

4:05pm Manchester City v Sporting Lisbon GOL-TV
4:05pm Besiktas v Atltico Madrid DirecTV
4:05pm Olympiacos v Metalist Kharkiv DirecTV
4:05pm Schalke 04 v FC Twente DirecTV


- FA CUP/QUARTERFINALS -

Saturday, March 17th, 2012:
.8:45am Everton v Sunderland (FSC Live)
.1:30pm Stevenage or Tottenham v Bolton (FSC Live)

Sunday, March 18th, 2012:
10:05am Chelsea v Leicester City (FSC+ Live)
12:00pm Liverpool v Stoke City  (FSC Live)


---------------------------


- PREMIERSHIP -


Saturday, March 17th, 2012:
11:00am Fulham v Swansea (ESPN Deportes Live, 3?)
11:00am Wigan v West Brom (FSC Live)

Sunday, March 18th, 2012:
.9:30am Wolverhampton v Manchester Utd (FSC Live)
12:00pm Newcastle v Norwich (FSC+ Live)
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Post by: hutch on March 13, 2012, 01:34:21 pm
Arsenal game was fun yesterday.. Van Persie was really pouring salt on the wounds at the end...


I got Gol TV and Fox Sports a few weeks ago and have been in soccer heaven since...


the Boca Juniors - Independiente game on Sunday was also, for Argentine league standards, great...even if Boca lost 5-4.

Gol TV shows every Boca league game live and Fox shows every Copa Libertadores game (with the Argentine announcers on the SAP channel)..


mainly I've been enjoying Barcelona though...
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Post by: vansmack on March 13, 2012, 04:52:18 pm
Everton FC fans singing "the baby's not yours" to Steven Gerrard after rumours his wife was playing away: http://t.co/OSriWbUj #thefriendlyderby
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 14, 2012, 12:50:41 pm
can't believe toon play day games on either side of easter. what a bummer
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Post by: hutch on March 21, 2012, 05:55:00 pm


for a guy out of the game for six months I was surprised he still had his form.. notice the first goal it was set up by a corner earned by a nice Tevez pass into the box.. second one similar; a nice tevez pass... City looked woeful before he came on.

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Post by: sweetcell on March 23, 2012, 03:45:02 pm
half price DC United tickets, in case you're into that sort of thing:
http://www.livingsocial.com/cities/1/deals/299930-d-c-united-tickets
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Post by: vansmack on March 27, 2012, 05:08:04 pm
I thought I'd share the text conversation I just had with Godsshoeshine:

GS: so bummed at how awful of a shirt sponsor the republic has for the euros
Me: What? I thought they didn't have one. Just those ugly numbers
GS: the ugly number is the sponsor. three.ie
Me: Hilarious
GS: so you could have #9 on the back and 3 on the front
GS: in different fonts
Me: Yep. Awful...I was planning on the black one with no number. So much for that...
GS: black shirt is nice. bizarre number thing.

Only the Irish...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 28, 2012, 06:20:54 am
i blame brennser
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 02, 2012, 01:46:24 pm
i'm trying to decide what my favorite part of the match yesterday was (apart from the obvious)
1) carroll's dive
2) carroll throwing the liverpool #9 to the ground
3) gerrard telling kenny to fuck off and sit down and the "king" complying
4) jose enrique finishing the match in goal
 
so many contenders...
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Post by: brennser on April 04, 2012, 09:48:24 pm
i blame brennser
those shirts are heinous and highly embarrassing  :-[
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Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2012, 01:42:32 pm
I never really thought Arsenal fans were worth a shit until today. Highly entertaining!
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Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2012, 01:22:50 pm
I've felt like throwing up all morning.  That is all.
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Post by: hutch on April 30, 2012, 04:55:14 pm
2 hours of my life i'll never get back.. horrible game

Real-Barcelona was 50 times better


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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2012, 05:24:23 pm
disaster of a weekend complete
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Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2012, 05:57:56 pm
disaster of a weekend complete

Jersey of the goal scorer to you if your team delivers next week....
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Post by: lagas on April 30, 2012, 06:35:15 pm
horrible game

Real-Barcelona was 50 times better




this
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2012, 08:11:50 pm
disaster of a weekend complete

Jersey of the goal scorer to you if your team delivers next week....
id prefer the creamsicle away top and wear a size small
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Post by: vansmack on May 02, 2012, 03:14:32 pm
id prefer the creamsicle away top and wear a size small

If it's dreamboat, I'm buying two...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 02, 2012, 06:01:02 pm
(http://h11.abload.de/img/untitled-8zjkh2.gif)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 03, 2012, 02:38:56 pm
Brother in Law: Those have to be the two best goals ever scored in a premiere league match by one player 9:03 PM
Smackie: Pretty much. That second one was RIDICULOUS 9:04 PM
Brother in Law: The first one was Ridiculous and I don't think there's a word for the second 9:05 PM
Smackie: Great point.  I can't stop watching it. 9:07 PM
Brother in Law: Now turn off your phone.  You can thank me later no matter how this ends up. 9:08 PM

That last text is why my brother in law is the best - I promptly turned off my phone.  I got to enjoy Jared Weaver's no no without having it ruined by a text message.  The downside of being a delayed sports watcher...
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Post by: hutch on May 13, 2012, 11:56:42 am
oh yah baby..

grande KUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 13, 2012, 08:18:32 pm
http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/ejSHTXlxrp97w.3USqeJxQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD00MzY7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/gettyimages.com/manchester-city-v-queens-park-20120513-103308-132.jpg
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2012, 08:38:16 pm
what a last day. can't say it worked out for me, but still a dream season

pumped to play spanish teams that spend ?40m on strikers yet don't have a shirt sponsor
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 22, 2012, 09:44:30 am
now that I finally got my soccer channels sorted out on my cable they switch up again.. what a mess..


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/al-jazeera-launch-2-sports-201105780--sow.html
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 22, 2012, 11:46:21 am
sweet! more bundesliga matches on goltv
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: K8teebug on May 22, 2012, 12:02:58 pm
The Man City game was amazing.

Still pissed at Chelsea for kicking my team (spurs) out of the champions league!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2012, 12:52:23 pm
now that I finally got my soccer channels sorted out on my cable they switch up again.. what a mess..

DirecTV will have this sorted in no time.  Cable co's will take months if not years....thankfully the Prem has another season with ESPN and Fox giving the cable co's plenty of time to screw this up.

Watching the last day in America was a lot better than watching it in England, so we're still better off.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 22, 2012, 01:39:21 pm
yes, this will likely be at least a short term win for directv subscribers. 5 live european channels
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Post by: vansmack on May 24, 2012, 04:10:13 pm
Collars up for The King today!

(http://www.jimjagger.com/Sites/EricCantona/Media/Kick/Cantona_6.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 24, 2012, 04:13:04 pm
the days go by and I'm still waiting for Vansmack to admit he was wrong about Tevez not winning anything with City....


 ;D


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 24, 2012, 04:51:11 pm
the days go by and I'm still waiting for Vansmack to admit he was wrong about Tevez not winning anything with City....

I'm not talking about it yet.  And it has nothing to do with Tevez.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 24, 2012, 05:38:53 pm
the days go by and I'm still waiting for Vansmack to admit he was wrong about Tevez not winning anything with City....

I'm not talking about it yet.  And it has nothing to do with Tevez.


oops..raw nerve ...sorry..take all the time you need...

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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 24, 2012, 08:32:12 pm
pretty classless of tevez to hold up the rip fergie sign at the parade. especially from a guy that refused to play
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 24, 2012, 11:53:54 pm
pretty classless of tevez to hold up the rip fergie sign at the parade. especially from a guy that refused to play

aaahhh
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2012, 12:12:43 pm
This has to be the worst opening game of the Euros ever.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2012, 02:04:50 pm
This has to be the worst opening game of the Euros ever.

I stand corrected.  The matchup was awful, but the match itself was highly entertaining...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: shemptiness on June 08, 2012, 03:28:27 pm
This has to be the worst opening game of the Euros ever.

I stand corrected.  The matchup was awful, but the match itself was highly entertaining...

Officiating was questionable. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2012, 04:04:49 pm
Officiating was questionable. 

Oh, it was awful.  But since I had no dog in the fight, I found that entertaining too...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 08, 2012, 04:41:57 pm
thought poland would at least be fun to watch with the dortmund players

czechs were overmatched. going to be a short tournament for them
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 08, 2012, 04:50:23 pm
czechs were overmatched. going to be a short tournament for them

Brother in law: Keller needed more work in the booth before this major tournament
Smackie: So did the Czech defense...


I used to root for the Czech's.  Then I shared a camp with them in Gelsenkirchen in 2006...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 08, 2012, 09:55:58 pm
ole mankie used to have a saying about a goalie being a teams best player

it wasn't a good thing
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2012, 07:12:13 pm
If I don't have familial attachments or bloodline attachments to a country, I usually root for nations in tournaments in the following order:

(1) If in attendance, always root for the home team.  The after-party is always better when the home team wins.

Then I employ the following rules:

(1) Where were you in World War II?
(2) Which country has the hotter women?
(3) Which team plays the more entertaining football?

If none of those rules produce a clear winner, I get into the weeds:

(1) Which team has more Manchester United players?
(2) Geo-politically, which country is better for the world?
(3) Which team doesn't have a player named Andre on it? 

I don't care how you spell it, you can't trust anybody named Andre. #fact

All that being said, I was touched/moved/impressed by Andriy Shechenko's performance in front of his home fans today.  I was also surprised he was still alive.

One other quick thought.  It was weird seeing Sweden in black and not seeing the team in yellow as Sweden.  I was worried that the similar colors would make it difficult to tell the Swedish women apart from the Ukrainian women - turns out it's not that hard to tell the difference between Scandanvian women and Developing country women....   
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 11, 2012, 10:58:14 pm
All that being said, I was touched/moved/impressed by Andriy Shechenko's performance in front of his home fans today.    

the man was already an national hero.  today, he became a legend.

i can't say that i was particularly impressed by ukraine's game and without a whole lot of luck they aren't going to make it far, certainly not in the elimination round (then again, a whole lot of luck is exactly what they had in 2006 so who knows).  the last 5-6 minutes of defense were painful to watch.  i'm still shocked that the vikings didn't score.

I was worried that the similar colors would make it difficult to tell the Swedish women apart from the Ukrainian women - turns out it's not that hard to tell the difference between Scandanvian women and Developing country women....   

they showed some absolute stunners during the game.  the vast majority of them, IMO, were ukie.

since we're on the topic of the Euro:
- could portugal/italy have been any more of a disappointment? zzzzzzzz.
- i enjoyed france/england more than i should have.
- i hereby ask that we retire the expression "luck of the irish", unless it's meaning is sarcastic.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 12, 2012, 07:38:59 pm
so US soccer qualifier against Guatemala unavailable on TV but Mexico available.. WTF?

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 12, 2012, 07:40:49 pm
so US soccer qualifier against Guatemala unavailable on TV but Mexico available.. WTF?

It's free at my local soccer bar:

https://www.facebook.com/dannycoyles

Otherwise, yep.  Pay per view only because US networks deemed the asking price too high for the market share.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 12, 2012, 09:10:24 pm
so US soccer qualifier against Guatemala unavailable on TV but Mexico available.. WTF?

It's free at my local soccer bar:

https://www.facebook.com/dannycoyles

Otherwise, yep.  Pay per view only because US networks deemed the asking price too high for the market share.


awesome bout your bar.. the two local bars here i'm sure are charging covers..although you never know.. its a pain though... here on the east coast its 10 pm start.



Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 12, 2012, 09:13:44 pm
summers charge is only 5 bucks.. i'd go but my mother in law is here, the baby and the two year old..its tough to say "I'm outta here!!!!!!!!!!"


hmmm


actually think this is a big game for the US.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 13, 2012, 09:22:01 am
summers charge is only 5 bucks.. i'd go but my mother in law is here, the baby and the two year old..its tough to say "I'm outta here!!!!!!!!!!"



You would if you had a sack.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 13, 2012, 10:46:31 am
summers charge is only 5 bucks.. i'd go but my mother in law is here, the baby and the two year old..its tough to say "I'm outta here!!!!!!!!!!"



You would if you had a sack.....

oh god you're back.


No, I go out plenty...this wasn't going to work.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 13, 2012, 01:46:22 pm
And here I was excited for the second match!  This match has been incredible....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 13, 2012, 03:14:39 pm
Netherlands-Germany


Can't both teams lose?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 19, 2012, 02:15:06 pm
Got to listen to the TalkSport pregame on the way to work this morning.  England fans crack me up.  They're so nervous and they have every right to be - this is exactly the type of game they can fuck up. 

I still think 2-0 to England, but the call-ins were highly entertaining this morning.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 21, 2012, 02:39:26 pm
They could have done a whole lot better with this:

Frustrated Bob Ley Tasked With Explaining Concept Of Europe To ESPN Viewers (http://www.theonion.com/articles/frustrated-bob-ley-tasked-with-explaining-concept,28620/)[/URL]
JUNE 21, 2012 | ISSUE 48?26


BRISTOL, CT?Assigned to provide commentary over SportsCenter's Euro 2012 highlights Tuesday night, ESPN anchor Bob Ley was forced to explain first the existence of Europe to the show's audience, a daunting task that clearly frustrated him. "You know how we say the U.S. is a country? Well, Europe is many countries put together, and people live in them just like people live here," said Ley, rushing through his script as England and Ukraine played on screen, and failing to make it through even a brief overview of the continent's history or why it was relevant, much less who Wayne Rooney is or why it was good that the ball bounced off his head at the end of the field. "Over by where the Red Sox play is some water called the Atlantic Ocean, and on the other side of the water is Europe? Okay, let's just leave it at that. I've probably lost most of you by now." Ley then went on to highlights of the Sweden-France match, simplifying things by just calling the two foreign nations the "Blue Jays" and the "Expos."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 24, 2012, 05:52:24 pm
good lord did Italy school England..

Particularly enjoyed Pirlo's chip. He was magnificent the entire game.


I got to say every tournament is just the same conclusion: England just plain sucks. Did they have a midfield?

I enjoyed that...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on June 24, 2012, 09:44:04 pm
england's offense fell apart everytime they got the ball in the 2nd half. they couldn't complete passes, hardly even dribble the ball. disappointing game.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 24, 2012, 10:10:01 pm
while england's passing was indeed bad, i enjoyed all the scoring chances in the game.  could have been a high-scoring game.  pirlo's penalty was bad-ass. 

for how long has the riff from Seven Nation Army been the default chant at european games?  seems like fans are singing it at every game, after each goal.  is there anything behind this, other than the fact that it's a catchy riff?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 25, 2012, 01:25:28 am
while england's passing was indeed bad, i enjoyed all the scoring chances in the game.  could have been a high-scoring game.  pirlo's penalty was bad-ass. 

for how long has the riff from Seven Nation Army been the default chant at european games?  seems like fans are singing it at every game, after each goal.  is there anything behind this, other than the fact that it's a catchy riff?

yeah, was that the Italian supporters? It kinda sounded like a mexican mariachi band version which made no sense...

it made me smile hearing it..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 25, 2012, 08:54:13 am
If that game was a boxing match. It would been a win by tko for Italy at halftime.

The silver lining is we won't be put through the humiliation of being ripped apart by Germany.

What I can't understand is the country that boasts the most exciting club league in the world produces such crap at the national level. Maybe we should be grateful for all the foreigners in the EPL after all.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: shemptiness on July 05, 2012, 05:33:25 pm
 Goal-line technology approved for 2014 World Cup (http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/07/05/fifa_approves_goal_line_technology_for_2014_world_cup_epl_next.html?wpisrc=xs_wp_0001)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 08, 2012, 04:52:49 pm
United not scoring in pre-season....maybe we do need RVP after all...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 08, 2012, 07:54:23 pm
you should play hartlepool
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 13, 2012, 02:29:49 pm
After thoroughly enjoying cutting the chord and switching MLB to all online in 2012, I was thinking of doing the same for EPL and Champions league this year.  Too bad it's not every match nor is there an Android app for foxsoccer2go.

This is where MLB went right - build your own ecosystem, where EPL licensed it out, in the states at least.   
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 13, 2012, 02:39:03 pm
I say this because this morning I've foregone my second monitor at work and added a 24inch LED attached to a nettop instead.

Let the season begin.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 13, 2012, 04:47:39 pm
directv has every game, and i believe there is a vulkano app for android
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 13, 2012, 04:58:27 pm
directv has every game, and i believe there is a vulkano app for android

First, If I could reach through this screen.....

Second, I'm really looking to cut the chord from pay-tv bundles and go internet la carte, which, but for sports I would have done years ago.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 15, 2012, 03:25:31 pm
As much as I like RVP and welcome him, I think a center back or holding center mid would have been a better purchase.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 15, 2012, 04:18:55 pm
As much as I like RVP and welcome him, I think a center back or holding center mid would have been a better purchase.


My thoughts exactly Smackie....Fergie must be collecting world class strikers like a kid collects bobble-heads.

Unless, there's more to the story and Rooney is on the way out to China, Moscow or whatever, for some ungodly amount of money.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on August 15, 2012, 04:19:37 pm
I say this because this morning I've foregone my second monitor at work and added a 24inch LED attached to a nettop instead.

Let the season begin.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/coworker-with-two-computer-screens-not-fucking-aro,29151/
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 15, 2012, 05:58:57 pm
My thoughts exactly Smackie....Fergie must be collecting world class strikers like a kid collects bobble-heads.

Unless, there's more to the story and Rooney is on the way out to China, Moscow or whatever, for some ungodly amount of money.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around it.  At least he's a natural leftie so we can run him out there with Rooney, but I'm not sure where that goes.  It's clear that SAF watched the lack of creativity when watching the films this off season with his Kegawa and RVP signings, and I appreciate the quality in the depth of the squad, but there were a couple of holes to be plugged.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 16, 2012, 07:31:10 am
My thoughts exactly Smackie....Fergie must be collecting world class strikers like a kid collects bobble-heads.

Unless, there's more to the story and Rooney is on the way out to China, Moscow or whatever, for some ungodly amount of money.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around it.  At least he's a natural leftie so we can run him out there with Rooney, but I'm not sure where that goes.  It's clear that SAF watched the lack of creativity when watching the films this off season with his Kegawa and RVP signings, and I appreciate the quality in the depth of the squad, but there were a couple of holes to be plugged.

Rumor has it Chicarrito is going to Arsenal....That would make sense. Not that I'm happy he's going but you have to put your faith in SAF. He's hardly ever wrong.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 17, 2012, 12:51:27 pm
The new strike partnership of Rooneyand Van Persie will be known as....wait....you know it.....


FATMAN AND ROBIN!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 17, 2012, 06:11:07 pm
Rumor has it Chicarrito is going to Arsenal....That would make sense. Not that I'm happy he's going but you have to put your faith in SAF. He's hardly ever wrong.

I think he goes to Italy or Spain, but we'll see.  I'm a little sad as I love the kid, but he is a bit fragile and can't seem to stay onsides.  I've been fearing this for a while.

And no, I'm not renaming my dog.  At this point.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 20, 2012, 02:08:53 pm
Turns out Van Persie is a good looking dude.  Who'd have thought that clothes really do make the man.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 20, 2012, 08:02:56 pm
robin van pretty
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2012, 10:46:10 pm
when the fuck is verizon going to add the BEin channel?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2012, 06:23:15 am
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2m62v55.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2012, 06:31:27 am
when the fuck is verizon going to add the BEin channel?

sounds like beIN is going to have to splash some serious cash to add more providers or buy goltv

i watched it some this weekend, much better than goltv
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2012, 02:00:46 pm
Unsurprisingly, United looked as uncreative as last season, though I was very impressed with Kagawa.  Given the back four, I'm not at all surprised by the result.

On the bright side, SAF didn't assault the linesman so we can still claim the moral high ground.  For now.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2012, 02:10:10 pm
sounds like beIN is going to have to splash some serious cash to add more providers or buy goltv

i watched it some this weekend, much better than goltv

I would call Comcast and ask, but I would have to explain to them what it is.  Given that they still don't understand that FSC+ is not FSC, I'm not even going to bother.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 21, 2012, 04:40:15 pm
Unsurprisingly, United looked as uncreative as last season, though I was very impressed with Kagawa.  Given the back four, I'm not at all surprised by the result.

On the bright side, SAF didn't assault the linesman so we can still claim the moral high ground.  For now.

Exciting game though. I thought United had plenty of possession but didn't do anything with it. Nani was atrocious. Considering we had a patched up back line I thought they did a decent job.

The Rooney/RVP partnership will take a few games to click. I would've pulled Nani and put RVP in and kept Wellbeck on.

I was a bit bemused with United's tikka takka nonesense. What was up with that?

All in all, Everton were worthy of all 3 points. When they sat back after going a goal up I thought....that's the last thing you do with United, then they started playing 'keep away' instead of 'score a fucking goal'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 21, 2012, 05:13:19 pm
sounds like beIN is going to have to splash some serious cash to add more providers or buy goltv

i watched it some this weekend, much better than goltv

I would call Comcast and ask, but I would have to explain to them what it is.  Given that they still don't understand that FSC+ is not FSC, I'm not even going to bother.

I'll eventually call Verizon.. this blows.. without the European games GOL TV has been gutted...the whole point of getting the darn sports package was to watch Barcelona play.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2012, 07:41:58 pm
Unsurprisingly, United looked as uncreative as last season, though I was very impressed with Kagawa.  Given the back four, I'm not at all surprised by the result.

On the bright side, SAF didn't assault the linesman so we can still claim the moral high ground.  For now.
yes, we are all praying that the linesman recovers from his awful, awful injuries
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2012, 08:18:30 pm
sounds like beIN is going to have to splash some serious cash to add more providers or buy goltv

i watched it some this weekend, much better than goltv

I would call Comcast and ask, but I would have to explain to them what it is.  Given that they still don't understand that FSC+ is not FSC, I'm not even going to bother.

I'll eventually call Verizon.. this blows.. without the European games GOL TV has been gutted...the whole point of getting the darn sports package was to watch Barcelona play.
goltv still has bundesliga, but beIN has too many matches for 1 channel in my opinion
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 21, 2012, 08:54:45 pm
sounds like beIN is going to have to splash some serious cash to add more providers or buy goltv

i watched it some this weekend, much better than goltv

I would call Comcast and ask, but I would have to explain to them what it is.  Given that they still don't understand that FSC+ is not FSC, I'm not even going to bother.

I'll eventually call Verizon.. this blows.. without the European games GOL TV has been gutted...the whole point of getting the darn sports package was to watch Barcelona play.
goltv still has bundesliga, but beIN has too many matches for 1 channel in my opinion

if beIN bought Gol they really would have no use for almost their entire programming.. they say they are in negotiations.. I don't want to switch to Direct TV unless I have to.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 22, 2012, 01:20:59 pm
all usmnt away world cup qualifiers are going to be on beIN too. ouch for cable customers
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2012, 02:07:49 pm
all usmnt away world cup qualifiers are going to be on beIN too. ouch for cable customers


yeah.. i need that channel..unless something happens.. goodbye verizon.. problem is i'd still need them for internet i think..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 22, 2012, 02:13:27 pm
all usmnt away world cup qualifiers are going to be on beIN too. ouch for cable customers

Good thing the bar two blocks from my place is an official USMNT location to watch games (and a DirecTV subscriber...).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2012, 02:14:52 pm
all usmnt away world cup qualifiers are going to be on beIN too. ouch for cable customers

Good thing the bar two blocks from my place is an official USMNT location to watch games (and a DirecTV subscriber...).

Yeah see I just don't want to watch the games at a bar.. .I know Summers will show them but so what..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 23, 2012, 07:38:52 am
Seems refs have chelksi blindness again this season when it comes to offsides.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 23, 2012, 06:28:22 pm
@SoccerInsider: Comcast has agreed to pick up beIN Sport but might take several weeks to roll out across all markets, spokesman says

Smackie RT @Comcast: in HD? @SoccerInsider: Comcast has agreed to pick up beIN Sport but might take several weeks to roll out across all markets

My friend who works at Comcast tweets me back:  I don't even know we bother attempting to please you. It's impossible. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 23, 2012, 06:39:54 pm
@SoccerInsider: Comcast has agreed to pick up beIN Sport but might take several weeks to roll out across all markets, spokesman says

Smackie RT @Comcast: in HD? @SoccerInsider: Comcast has agreed to pick up beIN Sport but might take several weeks to roll out across all markets

My friend who works at Comcast tweets me back:  I don't even know we bother attempting to please you. It's impossible. 

 :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 30, 2012, 02:46:20 pm
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW

Group A: Porto, Dynamo Kiev, Paris St. Germain, Dinamo Zagreb
Group B: Arsenal, Schalke, Olympiakos, Montpellier
Group C: AC Milan, Zenit St. Petersburg, Anderlecht, Malaga
Group D: Real Madrid, Manchester City, Ajax, Borussia Dortmund
Group E: Chelsea, Shakhtar Donetsk, Juventus, FC Nordsjaelland
Group F: Bayern Munich, Valencia, Lille, BATE Borisov
Group G: Barcelona, Benfica, Spartak Moscow, Celtic
Group H: Manchester United, Braga, Galatasaray, Cluj

I remember feeling really good about last years draw too, and we all know how that ended...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 30, 2012, 05:17:48 pm
Group D for DEATH!!

As for United....ditto. I just said that to a coworker/chelksi supporter. As for his team, even he admits his team can't defend their way to the final two years in a row.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 30, 2012, 06:51:45 pm
don't need to with hazard. how healthy that kid stays will dictate how chelsea's season goes
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 31, 2012, 11:15:44 am
Deadline day

In Summary
Man City sign Maicon from Inter Milan
Van der Vaart moves to Hamburg
Berbatov moves from Man Utd to Fulham
Stoke complete Adam signing
Sinclair completes move to Man City
De Jong leaves Man City for AC Milan
Dempsey turns down move to Aston Villa
Transfer window officially closes 23:00 BST


Dempsey is the new Tevez.
Thank you and best wishes to Berba.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2012, 11:47:24 am
Supposedly BEin is paying Comcast to carry the channel for the first year.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 31, 2012, 03:10:43 pm
falcao is unreal
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 25, 2012, 12:34:14 pm
So.....any games of interest over last weekend??

 ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 25, 2012, 01:09:00 pm
This morning's text conversation.

Brother in Law: Vidic had surgery on The same knee. 8 weeks at least
Smackie: Shit
Brother in Law: I think Fuck is more appropriate
Smackie: But then what will I say when hes out for the season?
Brother in Law: Good point. Maybe "there's always next year"


After watching Wednesday and Sunday, it's going to be a long season...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 25, 2012, 04:07:16 pm
SAF will probably buy another striker in the January window as cover for Vidic, Jones, Smalling and Ferdinand. (Where's Mr. Versatile, O'Shea, when you need him?)

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 08, 2012, 11:15:22 am
Toon army surrendered to the red army without even putting up so much as a fuss.
(I know, I know...the first 10-15 mins of second half I thought it was going to be exciting but then they fizzled again)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 08, 2012, 06:14:12 pm
pretty much can give up all hope of a result with collo out, at least until krul comes back

unreal that we didn't spring for a defender in the summer
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2012, 02:18:54 pm
This is exactly what I expected when I woke up yesterday:

Arsenal 0 - 2 Schalke
Malaga 1 - 0 AC Milan
Ajax 3 - 1 Manchester City
Dortmund 2 - 1 Real

Ok, maybe it's just what I hoped would happen.

This of course makes City the favorite to win the league again.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 26, 2012, 03:45:55 pm
This is exactly what I expected when I woke up yesterday:

Arsenal 0 - 2 Schalke
Malaga 1 - 0 AC Milan
Ajax 3 - 1 Manchester City
Dortmund 2 - 1 Real

Ok, maybe it's just what I hoped would happen.

This of course makes City the favorite to win the league again.

Naw - United have quality in depth to challenge on all fronts this year. Just as long as we get our backs healthy again soon and keep them healthy.

The edge we have is our bench are not egotistical prima donnas like those on shitty's bench. They are quality players who understand that rotation is not demotion.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 29, 2012, 08:16:54 am
Discuss?

 ;)

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 29, 2012, 12:54:29 pm
Discuss?

 ;)


That would require me to stop laughing....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 29, 2012, 05:40:11 pm
Discuss?

 ;)


That would require me to stop laughing....


It's about time these diving twats received cards. Long overdue.  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 12, 2012, 03:34:48 pm
Born Into It (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfrGaTV217g)

I love that at the end, they give you a link with translations. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H5ifFcCMDM&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_731175)

We should start doing that for Mankie's posts.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 14, 2012, 07:16:01 am
am i the only one that reads the conclusion as "both sides of manc are wank"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 14, 2012, 05:57:17 pm
am i the only one that reads the conclusion as "both sides of manc are wank"

Oh yeah?  Prove it this weekend!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 20, 2012, 03:19:22 pm
I don't think this could have gone worse for UEFA:

Real Madrid v Manchester United
Arsenal v Bayern
Milan v Barcelona
Shakhtar Donetsk v Borussia Dortmund
Valencia v Paris St. Germain
Celtic v Juventus
Galatasaray v Schalke 04
Porto v Malaga
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 08, 2013, 03:56:51 pm
Something to look forward to:

Brazil prostitutes plan English classes to Prep for World Cup (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1292544/brazil-prostitutes-to-learn-english-to-prep-for-2014-world-cup?cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on January 08, 2013, 05:25:38 pm
thinking of ditching verizon fios... they refuse to get beIN
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 23, 2013, 06:11:05 pm
This was pretty amazing, by the way.

Eden Hazard Sent off for Kicking the Ball Boy (http://deadspin.com/5978461/chelseas-eden-hazard-sent-off-after-kicking-swansea-ballboy-during-league-cup-match)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2013, 02:07:53 pm
I had to do a little searching today, so I though I'd share my results:

Me: TODAY: FSC - AVFC v NUFC, FSC+ - Stoke v Wigan. Deportes has QPR v MCFC

Me: TOMORROW: ESPN2 MUFC v Southapmton, FSC - Arsenal v LUFC, FSC+ Reading v Chelsea
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 30, 2013, 09:50:12 pm
i almost left work early yesterday, but work has been too busy. had to settle for dvr

beIN is really good though. ray hudson does like 6 games a week
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2013, 02:19:36 pm
Only 8 years ago?  It seems like forever ago...

8 Year Anniversary of Vieira v Keane in Highbury Tunnel (http://www.givemefootball.com/330459-video-eightyear-anniversary-of-vieira-v-keane-highbury-tunnel-spat?tg=premier%20league)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomicfront on February 05, 2013, 10:54:14 am
Hmm european soccer fixed? 

http://masn.stats.com/multisport/story.asp?i=20130204053552678749008 (http://masn.stats.com/multisport/story.asp?i=20130204053552678749008)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 16, 2013, 07:16:15 pm
man, that goal right after the triple substitution in the arsenal match today was hilarious
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 18, 2013, 01:03:42 am
man, that goal right after the triple substitution in the arsenal match today was hilarious

Yep.  Absolutely amazing.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 18, 2013, 04:05:20 pm
Naw - United have quality in depth to challenge on all fronts this year. Just as long as we get our backs healthy again soon and keep them healthy.

The edge we have is our bench are not egotistical prima donnas like those on shitty's bench. They are quality players who understand that rotation is not demotion.

Normally, I hate it when you're right, but not in this instance.

Gotta give you props here, old man.  You nailed it.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 04, 2013, 02:40:19 pm
The lack of Phil Jones tomorrow has me very worried.  He's proven himself to be a very worthy defensive midfielder this season against some of the worlds best.

But more importantly, where are folks watching matches these days?  Is the Lucky Bar still the spot?  Elephant & Castle or Fado better choices yet if I'm going to be near the Hill?  What say ye folks.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 21, 2013, 04:00:06 pm
@BBCSporf: FACT: Twitter was created 7 years ago today, which means no Arsenal fan has ever tweeted about winning a trophy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on April 08, 2013, 07:37:32 pm
awesome Kun Aguero goal...


Eat it ManU.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 09, 2013, 06:26:47 am
yeah, eat that 12 point lead in april
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on April 09, 2013, 08:26:52 am
yeah, eat that 12 point lead in april

oh maybe its not a rivalry???


the players sure seemed pissed off to lose despite their "12 point lead in april"... :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 09, 2013, 01:02:22 pm
im not a fan of either, but it's hard for me to see where city can really own bragging rights this year. splitting with man u simply isn't good enough
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on April 09, 2013, 01:11:47 pm
im not a fan of either, but it's hard for me to see where city can really own bragging rights this year. splitting with man u simply isn't good enough

bragging rights: we outclassed you beating you the last time we played at your home!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2013, 01:51:22 pm
bragging rights: we outclassed you beating you the last time we played at your home!

Talk all you want, but speak directly into my Silverware when you do.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 16, 2013, 01:00:30 pm
http://www.businessinsider.com/nbc-will-air-every-english-premier-league-game-live-2013-4
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 16, 2013, 01:05:35 pm
http://www.businessinsider.com/nbc-will-air-every-english-premier-league-game-live-2013-4


Maybe it's time for a 4 tuner DVR?

"All games will also be available for live-streaming on the NBC Sports Extra website and app, which you have access to through your cable provider." Those TV providers are Comcast, Cablevision, Verizon, or Suddenlink.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2013, 04:20:30 pm
Add this to things I never thought I'd say: 

"Germany, the football Mecca."

And take that FIFA for your blatant rigging of a "Classico" Champion's League Final.  The least liked country in Europe now owns the Economy and the Football.   
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on April 24, 2013, 09:13:00 pm
Add this to things I never thought I'd say: 

"Germany, the football Mecca."

And take that FIFA for your blatant rigging of a "Classico" Champion's League Final.  The least liked country in Europe now owns the Economy and the Football.   

yeah and it sucks.....god I hate german soccer...everything about it... a couple of World Cup exits including a beating at the last one have crystallized just how much..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 25, 2013, 06:25:01 am
i do like how the seasons not even over yet and german club football has basically already eaten itself with the goetze and lewindowski moves
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 08, 2013, 12:44:30 pm
Unthinkable 5 years ago, but it's the lead story on ESPN today....

http://espn.go.com/
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 11, 2013, 02:39:43 pm
wanted man city to win but honestly happy they'll get rid of mancini now..and happy for wigan and robeto martinez (i was like "I KNOW THAT GUY! HE WAS THE ONLY GUY ON ESPN DURING THE WORLD CUP THAT MADE ANY SENSE!")
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 12, 2013, 12:22:30 pm
This is How It Feels to Be City (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-fX0UbpZls&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2013, 12:00:40 pm
so i guess we are all rooting for wigan midweek and hoping for chaos on the last day?

wigan, villa and the unwashed, three properly awful clubs for the drop
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2013, 02:06:35 pm
so i guess we are all rooting for wigan midweek and hoping for chaos on the last day?

wigan, villa and the unwashed, three properly awful clubs for the drop

Without a doubt, though the prospect of Bale in United Red should Arsenal prevail is tempting as well.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2013, 03:52:20 pm
BTW - Goals on Sunday was contractually prohibited from showing this, and that's a damn shame:

Watford v Leister city (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=112133228993093)

Possibly the second greatest ending ever.  '99 Champions League Final being the obvious #1.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2013, 05:07:25 pm
"I had expected the referee to be more lenient, considering it was the last game in my career." - Mark van Bommel upon  his final sending off. (http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/thetoepoke/id/3071?cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 13, 2013, 08:12:06 pm
bye bye mancini ..good riddance


really hope the rumours are true and the replacement is pellegrini...a very good coach
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 14, 2013, 08:20:17 pm
welp, see you in hell wigan
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on June 18, 2013, 09:00:28 am
sometimes the jokes write themselves

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/kinnear-confirmed-as-newcastle-s-director-of-football-1.1433242

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2013, 03:55:36 pm
sometimes the jokes write themselves

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/kinnear-confirmed-as-newcastle-s-director-of-football-1.1433242

I have it on good authority it was a father's day present for godsshoeshine.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 19, 2013, 09:08:38 pm
this fathers day i learned the true meaning of "reet fooking kernt, man"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 11, 2013, 01:33:50 pm
SPOILER ALERT

This article will be on your doorsteps in tomorrow's Economist:

A villain?s guide to football
Welcome to the beautiful game (http://www.economist.com/news/international/21581724-football-clubs-can-easily-be-used-stealing-machines-here-instruction-manual)

Football clubs can easily be used as stealing machines. Here is an instruction manual. The stories are real, but most details are concealed
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 17, 2013, 08:56:39 pm
for the record, i take cisse's side in the wonga row
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 18, 2013, 12:18:49 am
for the record, i take cisse's side in the wonga row

I don't see this ending well.  At all.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 18, 2013, 06:34:35 am
overblown by the uk press, in my opinion, but it is pretty stunning how mike ashley continues to make poor business decision after poor business decision
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 18, 2013, 11:11:40 am
overblown by the uk press, in my opinion, but it is pretty stunning how mike ashley continues to make poor business decision after poor business decision

I don't remember the player, but there was a continental player who opposed gambling and wore a charity logo instead.  Is Wonga opposed to that?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 18, 2013, 07:05:49 pm
kanout when he was with sevilla. the rumor is wonga won't budge, but it's always hard to separate fact from fiction with newcastle united

not sure what good having a shirt sponsor is if you're forced into selling one of your most valuable players
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 29, 2013, 08:00:54 pm
I nearly shed a tear yesterday when I watched him go down.  Just not fair.

Stuart Holden has a Torn ACL (http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1509797/stuart-holden-torn-right-acl?cc=5901)

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: imbecile on July 30, 2013, 08:42:17 am
I nearly shed a tear yesterday when I watched him go down.  Just not fair.

Stuart Holden has a Torn ACL (http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1509797/stuart-holden-torn-right-acl?cc=5901)



Yep, caught a sideline shot of him shaking his head a few minutes later and figured this was the case.  If anyone knows what a blown knee feels like, i'm sure he does and know it right away.  Ugh, hopefully there aren't complications or anything this time around. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 08, 2013, 11:54:45 am
i cannot believve nobody mentioned that beIN was added to Verizon in April!!!!!!!!!!!


geez... i thought you guys would tip me off..

 ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 08, 2013, 02:41:53 pm
looks like i'll be in spain next march for some hols. is espanyol a decent place to watch a match?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 08, 2013, 05:20:36 pm
looks like i'll be in spain next march for some hols. is espanyol a decent place to watch a match?

Champions League Round of 16, second leg   03/11-12/14 or 03/18-19/14
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomicfront on August 08, 2013, 05:23:26 pm
looks like i'll be in spain next march for some hols. is espanyol a decent place to watch a match?

I was in Madrid when Madrid was playing Barcelona and the cheapest tickets I could find were around 500 dollars.  I don't know if this is typical for Spanish soccer or just because it was Madrid/Barcelona but it was too rich for my blood.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 08, 2013, 05:41:51 pm
its because it was bara/real
looks like i'll be in spain next march for some hols. is espanyol a decent place to watch a match?

Champions League Round of 16, second leg   03/11-12/14 or 03/18-19/14
the plan is to be there 3/11-12, so that might work
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 26, 2013, 06:30:54 pm
I guess it's official now.  Jose's back.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 28, 2013, 06:27:37 am
now i know that the toon are shite right now, but man nbc sports is making this season so damn enjoyable already. home at 10 am saturday means 3 matches on at once (tv, ipad, laptop)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on August 28, 2013, 04:07:48 pm
Ok so how do I know when the Manchester City games are going to be televised? The first game appeared to be shown live but I couldn't find the one that was this last Sunday. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2013, 05:49:28 pm
now i know that the toon are shite right now, but man nbc sports is making this season so damn enjoyable already. home at 10 am saturday means 3 matches on at once (tv, ipad, laptop)

Agreed.

A couple of times I thought the sound had gone out during the Untied-Chelsea snoozer, but no, it was just the announcer letting me enjoy the game in peace.  It was absolutely the best thing of that match.

I have had a couple of tablet viewing issues with the app, but the desktop viewing has been fine.

home at 10 am saturday means 3 matches on at once (tv, ipad, laptop)

Have you tried that yet?  I think some of my viewing problems have been by virtue of trying to log in under one name on multiple devices.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2013, 06:59:31 pm
PS: Deadspin agrees:

http://deadspin.com/nbc-sports-premier-league-coverage-is-really-damn-good-1216484174
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 29, 2013, 12:44:47 pm
Have you tried that yet?  I think some of my viewing problems have been by virtue of trying to log in under one name on multiple devices.
yup. my chromebook can't quite keep up, but the ipad was flawless
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 29, 2013, 01:35:01 pm
there's just so much great soccer right now ... i got bein finally

i want to see barcelona play..that is a must.. then you got real.. then you got PSG which is now like an allstar team.... even napoli is really good

and my father in law emailed me whether i watched the seattle - portland game.. ha ha
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 29, 2013, 01:35:48 pm
even the copa brazil games have been very entertaining..

i'm a pig in shit
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 29, 2013, 01:56:35 pm
Group A: Man United, Shakhtar Donetsk, Bayer Leverkusen, Real Sociedad

Group B: Real Madrid, Juventus, Galatasaray, FC Copenhagen

Group C: Benfica, PSG, Olympiakos, Anderlecht

Group D: Bayern Munich, CSKA Moscow, Man City, Viktoria Plzen

Group E: Chelsea, Schalke, FC Basel, Steaua Bucharest

Group F: Arsenal, Marseille, Borussia Dortmund, Napoli

Group G: FC Porto, Atletico Madrid, Zenit St Petersburg, Austria Vienna

Group H: Barcelona, AC Milan, Ajax, Celtic
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2013, 01:24:51 pm
I kind of thought this article (http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21583311-once-strictly-conservatives-traditional-dress-becoming-cool-lederhosen-boom) was a joke.

Then I saw Bayern Munich's new Ledehosen inspired  away kit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB4abgADhGA
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on September 17, 2013, 01:32:07 pm
I kind of thought this article (http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21583311-once-strictly-conservatives-traditional-dress-becoming-cool-lederhosen-boom) was a joke.

Then I saw Bayern Munich's new Ledehosen inspired  away kit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB4abgADhGA


I have photos of me in Lederhosen as a child.  Then we moved to the US and I wore them to school.  I still blame my mom for the horrible event.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: grateful on September 17, 2013, 01:58:02 pm
I have photos of me in Lederhosen as a child.  Then we moved to the US and I wore them to school.  I still blame my mom for the horrible event.

Pictures or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: chaz on September 17, 2013, 02:33:55 pm
I kind of thought this article (http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21583311-once-strictly-conservatives-traditional-dress-becoming-cool-lederhosen-boom) was a joke.

Then I saw Bayern Munich's new Ledehosen inspired  away kit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB4abgADhGA


I have photos of me in Lederhosen as a child.  Then we moved to the US and I wore them to school.  I still blame my mom for the horrible event.
Holy shit.  We have something in common.  My mom got me some and made me wear them to a few birthday parties.  To this day I remember my friends being like "dude..wtf are you wearing?".  I recall one kid asking if the little carved antler decorative thing was candy.  My mom also made me wear sun suits when I was little.  No pics of the lederhosen.  But in every pic age 5 or so and younger I'm wearing a sun suit.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on September 17, 2013, 02:41:56 pm
I have photos of me in Lederhosen as a child.  Then we moved to the US and I wore them to school.  I still blame my mom for the horrible event.

Pictures or it didn't happen.

Yeah like I haven't suffered enough abuse for wearing them I would post a photo of me in them on this board. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on September 17, 2013, 02:43:23 pm
I kind of thought this article (http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21583311-once-strictly-conservatives-traditional-dress-becoming-cool-lederhosen-boom) was a joke.

Then I saw Bayern Munich's new Ledehosen inspired  away kit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB4abgADhGA


I have photos of me in Lederhosen as a child.  Then we moved to the US and I wore them to school.  I still blame my mom for the horrible event.
Holy shit.  We have something in common.  My mom got me some and made me wear them to a few birthday parties.  To this day I remember my friends being like "dude..wtf are you wearing?".  I recall one kid asking if the little carved antler decorative thing was candy.  My mom also made me wear sun suits when I was little.  No pics of the lederhosen.  But in every pic age 5 or so and younger I'm wearing a sun suit.

I feel bad for you.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: chaz on September 17, 2013, 04:35:42 pm
I kind of thought this article (http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21583311-once-strictly-conservatives-traditional-dress-becoming-cool-lederhosen-boom) was a joke.

Then I saw Bayern Munich's new Ledehosen inspired  away kit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB4abgADhGA


I have photos of me in Lederhosen as a child.  Then we moved to the US and I wore them to school.  I still blame my mom for the horrible event.
Holy shit.  We have something in common.  My mom got me some and made me wear them to a few birthday parties.  To this day I remember my friends being like "dude..wtf are you wearing?".  I recall one kid asking if the little carved antler decorative thing was candy.  My mom also made me wear sun suits when I was little.  No pics of the lederhosen.  But in every pic age 5 or so and younger I'm wearing a sun suit.

I feel bad for you.
don't...it all worked out just fine for me in the mom and fashion departments.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on September 23, 2013, 08:25:24 am
Kun is playing at such a high level...  too bad Argentina has no midfield, defense or goalie.... because Messi, Aguero and Higuain are all great....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 24, 2013, 12:07:09 pm
Brilliant toast from a United Fan marrying into a City Family (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6Dhcl3sIxuw)

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 25, 2013, 06:19:34 am
surprised his in-laws didn't tell him to fuck off back to london. fantastic restraint

di canio had more players bought than games in charge
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on September 25, 2013, 09:48:47 am
Why do all the sports sites refer to Bayern Munchen as "Bayern Munich"?  If they wanted to Americanize the name it should be "Bavaria Munich".  Totally confused.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 16, 2013, 12:29:33 pm
No other team in the world does what America did last night.  I hope the don't pay the price in Brazil next year with a round of 16 ouster by Mexico.

I thought Jurgen would get us past this...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 16, 2013, 12:58:41 pm
No other team in the world does what America did last night.  I hope the don't pay the price in Brazil next year with a round of 16 ouster by Mexico.

I thought Jurgen would get us past this...

THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING>>>WHAT IS UP WITH THE AMERICAN NAIVETE!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 16, 2013, 02:35:55 pm
THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING>>>WHAT IS UP WITH THE AMERICAN NAIVETE!

I have no idea Hutch.  After screaming "WTF are you doing?" I was shaking my head as it was happening...

The stupid Sam's Army people in the bar cheering up a storm of USA chant's.  They just don't get it....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on October 16, 2013, 03:31:37 pm
THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING>>>WHAT IS UP WITH THE AMERICAN NAIVETE!

I have no idea Hutch.  After screaming "WTF are you doing?" I was shaking my head as it was happening...

The stupid Sam's Army people in the bar cheering up a storm of USA chant's.  They just don't get it....

What's there to get? Mexico can't score. Even if Mexico gets past New Zealand and makes it. The US would deserve to get eliminated if they can't get past a team that has only scored 7 goals in the last 10 games.

I don't think it's naive to play to win. The concept of playing to a draw or loss because you're looking backward at a team that is hanging on by a thread is silly and unproductive.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 16, 2013, 08:16:21 pm
Mexican Head Coach Victor Manuel Vucetich said post-match. "As professionals we should play all of our games at our best level of play. If we knew we were going to qualify we would not have done so. We have to praise ethical and professional behavior, in this case by the United States.?

My Spanish isn't very good, but that translates to:

"Si la situacin fuera al revs, nos habramos perdido seguro."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 22, 2013, 12:49:23 pm
I don't want to bum anybody out, but if you're a US soccer fan, sit here for 20 minutes and see how many favorable draws you come up with for next year:

2014 World Cup Draw Simulator (http://ultra-zone.net/2014-FIFA-World-Cup-Group-Stage-Draws)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 22, 2013, 01:18:01 pm
I don't want to bum anybody out, but if you're a US soccer fan, sit here for 20 minutes and see how many favorable draws you come up with for next year:

2014 World Cup Draw Simulator (http://ultra-zone.net/2014-FIFA-World-Cup-Group-Stage-Draws)

Got one with USA Greece, Chile and Belgium....not that they will get that lucky
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on November 22, 2013, 01:26:19 pm
I don't want to bum anybody out, but if you're a US soccer fan, sit here for 20 minutes and see how many favorable draws you come up with for next year:

2014 World Cup Draw Simulator (http://ultra-zone.net/2014-FIFA-World-Cup-Group-Stage-Draws)

Got one with USA Greece, Chile and Belgium....not that they will get that lucky


Chile is pretty good...

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on November 22, 2013, 01:27:00 pm
we  definitely need a WC draw when the time comes...

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 22, 2013, 08:41:11 pm
Better World Cup News:

http://deadspin.com/brazils-world-cup-kick-off-times-are-perfect-1469766047

The Highlights (all times Eastern):

In the group stage, matches are at 12 noon, 3 p.m, and 6 p.m. nearly every day.

Over the final two days of the group stage, when all four teams in a group play simultaneously, two matches each will be played at 12 p.m. and 4 p.m.

That schedule extends through the knockout stages, with the Round of 16 and the quarterfinals seeing matches every day at 12 p.m. and 4 p.m.

The two semifinals will be played at 4 p.m., and the final on Sunday, July 12, at 3 p.m.

ESPN, ESPN2, and ABC will broadcast every single match live and in HD. Even better, since most of us will be at the office, they'll all be available via the WatchESPN streaming service on computers and mobile devices.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 16, 2013, 01:33:56 pm
Really could not have gone better for United....

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW
To be played Feb. 18, 19, 25, 26 and March 11, 12, 18, 19

Manchester City    v    Barcelona
Olympiakos    v    Manchester United
AC Milan    v    Atletico Madrid
Bayer Leverkusen    v    Paris St Germain
Galatasaray    v    Chelsea
Schalke    v    Real Madrid
Zenit    v    Dortmund
Arsenal    v    Bayern
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on January 28, 2014, 03:07:11 pm
Good article on kinda local, Gedion Zelalem.
Looks like he's not going to be ruined by being rushed along like another teen that played in Maryland.
http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/arsenal/id/3264?cc=5901 (http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/arsenal/id/3264?cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on April 21, 2014, 06:31:40 pm
Moyes out at Man Utd.


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/moyes-sacked-manchester-united-manager-161000619--sow.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 21, 2014, 06:34:40 pm
Moyes out at Man Utd.

I though they might fire him at halftime on Sunday.  Jurgen Klopp, please.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on May 02, 2014, 01:36:20 am
oh zombie, arise...

Copa America Coming to United States in 2016 Is a Game-Changer for US Soccer
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2048212-copa-amrica-coming-to-united-states-in-2016-is-a-game-changer-for-us-soccer

thoughts?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 02, 2014, 12:01:22 pm
oh zombie, arise...

Copa America Coming to United States in 2016 Is a Game-Changer for US Soccer
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2048212-copa-amrica-coming-to-united-states-in-2016-is-a-game-changer-for-us-soccer

thoughts?

Game changer is a stretch, but it's still good for soccer in America.  The majority of the fans will be existing Anglo-American soccer fans and ex-pats of South/Central American nations, but even that's a huge improvement on the Gold Cup.

While soccer attendance and attention continues to improve in the States, it will require the US Team to be more competitive in international tournaments or the US hosting the World Cup to call it a "game changer"

I, for one, am very happy to watch the Euro's all morning and attend a Copa America in the evening.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 05, 2014, 05:23:43 pm
In the last 10 days I've seen Gerrard, Terry and now Suarez cry.

Really makes up for an otherwise shitty season for United fans.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on May 14, 2014, 10:04:08 am
http://www.wimp.com/goalrotherham/
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on May 16, 2014, 10:44:58 am
FIFA president Sepp Blatter awarding World Cup to Qatar in 2022 was ?of course? a mistake
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/fifa-president-sepp-blatter-awarding-world-cup-to-qatar-in-2022-was-of-course-a-mistake/story-e6frf423-1226920623265
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on May 16, 2014, 11:00:20 am
oh zombie, arise...

Copa America Coming to United States in 2016 Is a Game-Changer for US Soccer
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2048212-copa-amrica-coming-to-united-states-in-2016-is-a-game-changer-for-us-soccer

thoughts?

Game changer is a stretch, but it's still good for soccer in America.  The majority of the fans will be existing Anglo-American soccer fans and ex-pats of South/Central American nations, but even that's a huge improvement on the Gold Cup.

While soccer attendance and attention continues to improve in the States, it will require the US Team to be more competitive in international tournaments or the US hosting the World Cup to call it a "game changer"

I, for one, am very happy to watch the Euro's all morning and attend a Copa America in the evening.

Why are US fans so stuck on the UK Premier League?  The German League and Spanish League have had more champions in the Champions League.  Is it because of the English speaking announcers?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on May 16, 2014, 12:08:47 pm
oh zombie, arise...

Copa America Coming to United States in 2016 Is a Game-Changer for US Soccer
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2048212-copa-amrica-coming-to-united-states-in-2016-is-a-game-changer-for-us-soccer

thoughts?


Game changer is a stretch, but it's still good for soccer in America.  The majority of the fans will be existing Anglo-American soccer fans and ex-pats of South/Central American nations, but even that's a huge improvement on the Gold Cup.

While soccer attendance and attention continues to improve in the States, it will require the US Team to be more competitive in international tournaments or the US hosting the World Cup to call it a "game changer"

I, for one, am very happy to watch the Euro's all morning and attend a Copa America in the evening.

Why are US fans so stuck on the UK Premier League?  The German League and Spanish League have had more champions in the Champions League.  Is it because of the English speaking announcers?
Probably because of access to view games on TV. Until recently it was much more difficult to see a bunch Bundesliga and La Liga games. With BeIN, you can also catch Serie A and Ligue 1 matches without buying some expensive package.

It's also generally accepted that the Premier League is the best league from top to bottom. The teams from other leagues that make the Champions League are generally better than their league competition by a wider margin. Any top 4 Premier League team have to take a Stoke City or Crystal Palace seriously or they will lose. The others can rest their top players without as much fear of a loss.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 16, 2014, 12:16:53 pm
FIFA president Sepp Blatter awarding World Cup to Qatar in 2022 was ?of course? a mistake
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/fifa-president-sepp-blatter-awarding-world-cup-to-qatar-in-2022-was-of-course-a-mistake/story-e6frf423-1226920623265

yes...but the bribes were oh so nice and big..

FIFA is a mafia.


Russia for 2018 and then Qatar 2022... tells you all you need to know.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on May 16, 2014, 01:10:31 pm
FIFA president Sepp Blatter awarding World Cup to Qatar in 2022 was ?of course? a mistake
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/fifa-president-sepp-blatter-awarding-world-cup-to-qatar-in-2022-was-of-course-a-mistake/story-e6frf423-1226920623265

yes...but the bribes were oh so nice and big..

FIFA is a mafia.


Russia for 2018 and then Qatar 2022... tells you all you need to know.

Don't know which is worse the IOC or FIFA.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 02, 2014, 09:50:27 am
Corruption allegations rock Qatar's successful 2022 World Cup bid
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/02/sport/football/football-qatar-world-cup-sunday-times/index.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 02, 2014, 11:28:31 am
Corruption allegations rock Qatar's successful 2022 World Cup bid
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/02/sport/football/football-qatar-world-cup-sunday-times/index.html

I was thinking: why would you bribe to hold an event no one cares about?  But then I guess this is a pretty big deal in some countries. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: shemptiness on June 02, 2014, 11:47:20 am
Corruption allegations rock Qatar's successful 2022 World Cup bid
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/02/sport/football/football-qatar-world-cup-sunday-times/index.html

I was thinking: why would you bribe to hold an event no one cares about?  But then I guess this is a pretty big deal in some countries. 

And by 'in some countries' you mean the rest of the entire world.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 02, 2014, 01:37:50 pm
Corruption allegations rock Qatar's successful 2022 World Cup bid
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/02/sport/football/football-qatar-world-cup-sunday-times/index.html

I was thinking: why would you bribe to hold an event no one cares about?  But then I guess this is a pretty big deal in some countries. 

And by 'in some countries' you mean the rest of the entire world.

Canadians don't care about soccer do they? 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2014, 02:06:17 pm
Canadians don't care about soccer do they? 

They're not really a separate country are they?  I've always considered them the 51st state.  Take that Puerto Rico!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 02, 2014, 02:14:38 pm
Corruption allegations rock Qatar's successful 2022 World Cup bid
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/02/sport/football/football-qatar-world-cup-sunday-times/index.html

so not surprisin...how else could anyone explain them being selected....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 04, 2014, 12:29:59 pm
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/04/cristiano-ronaldo-portugal-ghana-witch-doctor
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 04, 2014, 05:30:04 pm
fuck me

https://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/germany-will-win-the-2014-word-cup--predicts-fifa-video-game-234726737.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 05, 2014, 03:45:18 pm
No this doesn't have me excited, AT ALL.

(http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/print-cover-full/print-covers/20140607_cuk400.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 06, 2014, 10:18:22 am
just keeps rolling on in...

17 Reasons Why The Qatar World Cup Is Going To Be A Disaster
http://www.businessinsider.com/qatar-world-cup-disaster-2014-6
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 06, 2014, 03:46:10 pm
just keeps rolling on in...

17 Reasons Why The Qatar World Cup Is Going To Be A Disaster
http://www.businessinsider.com/qatar-world-cup-disaster-2014-6


7. Playing it in winter will totally screw up the European leagues.

this could be crazy if all the big name players won't participate and then sending the b-team to the WC

17. They probably won't sell beer in the stadiums

YIKES!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 06, 2014, 03:55:06 pm
16. It'll get drowned out by football in America.
 
The World Cup is the only time when mainstream America pays attention to soccer. If it has to compete with the NFL it'd be a disaster, especially if it's held in January and goes up against the playoffs.



No one in America cares about the World Cup.  They can hold it on the 4th of July and people still won't care.  Most of the reason given are pretty lame except the worker conditions and the lack of beer. 

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 06, 2014, 04:06:48 pm


No one in America cares about the World Cup.  They can hold it on the 4th of July and people still won't care.  Most of the reason given are pretty lame except the worker conditions and the lack of beer. 



No one?

Plenty of people do..Its full of bars that show Premier League and people go on weekends to watch the games early in the morning! You don't see all the people driving cars with Barcelona, Real or whatever logos? I guess hispanics Americans don't count for you??? 53 million plus of them don't count? They're nobodies.

And they're not even the ones watching Premier League games...

The MLS League? Nobody cares about that...Nobody in Seattle cares..they only average about 44,000 plus for home games!!!!!!! Those people don't exist in the Atomic world.

Come on now dude... the "nobody in the US cares about soccer" argument is played out man... the new New York City Football Club just signed David Villa for crying out loud. You may not know who he is but plenty of people do.




Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 06, 2014, 04:21:10 pm


No one in America cares about the World Cup.  They can hold it on the 4th of July and people still won't care.  Most of the reason given are pretty lame except the worker conditions and the lack of beer. 



No one?

Plenty of people do..Its full of bars that show Premier League and people go on weekends to watch the games early in the morning! You don't see all the people driving cars with Barcelona, Real or whatever logos? I guess hispanics Americans don't count for you??? 53 million plus of them don't count? They're nobodies.

And they're not even the ones watching Premier League games...

The MLS League? Nobody cares about that...Nobody in Seattle cares..they only average about 44,000 plus for home games!!!!!!! Those people don't exist in the Atomic world.

Come on now dude... the "nobody in the US cares about soccer" argument is played out man... the new New York City Football Club just signed David Villa for crying out loud. You may not know who he is but plenty of people do.






DC United has over half of RFK seating eliminated for their games.  And looking at the crowd it looks like mostly illegal immigrants.  Soccer is way down on the list of favorite sports for Americans...behind NFL Football, Baseball, NBA Basketball, College Basketball, Nascar, College Football, Golf...

Maybe you see a lot of that stuff in DC because there are a lot of foreigners livng there.   But I am talking about people born in America.   They don't like soccer.  We don't even have a DC United thread on here.  We have three baseball threads. 

My point being they don't need to make any altercations to their schedule for us.  We won't care either way.  Let them played in Quatar or Russia as I am sure they will appreciate a heck of lot more than us. 

People watch Premier games because they are anglophiles.  If people like soccer here they wouldn't be watching premier games anyway they would have the best soccer players in the world here and they would support their local teams.  DC united average 13k fans a game last year. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 06, 2014, 04:36:23 pm
yes the core bud lite drinking white men don't watch a lot of soccer here

but 10-15 million people will probably watch World Cup games in the US

that's not nothing

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 06, 2014, 04:48:03 pm
yes the core bud lite drinking white men don't watch a lot of soccer here

but 10-15 million people will probably watch World Cup games in the US

that's not nothing



Its not enough of them for FIFA to change their schedule due to avoid NFL playoffs. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 06, 2014, 04:58:05 pm
yes the core bud lite drinking white men don't watch a lot of soccer here

but 10-15 million people will probably watch World Cup games in the US

that's not nothing



Its not enough of them for FIFA to change their schedule due to avoid NFL playoffs. 

huh? speak English man or I will have to conclude you are one of those illegal immigrants you think goes to DC United games.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 06, 2014, 05:00:19 pm
I mean what do you want me to say Atomic? You're full of shit as usual.

You said nobody cares about the World Cup. Well that's bullshit and you know it but if that's the way you feel stay away from this thread. I think you're trolling is what you're doing.

I care and know plenty of people who do. This idea that its only foreigners or illegal immigrants is highly offensive.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 06, 2014, 05:09:56 pm
I mean what do you want me to say Atomic? You're full of shit as usual.

You said nobody cares about the World Cup. Well that's bullshit and you know it but if that's the way you feel stay away from this thread. I think you're trolling is what you're doing.

I care and know plenty of people who do. This idea that its only foreigners or illegal immigrants is highly offensive.

  I said Americans in general don't care.  I know two people who care a lot.  One is from South Africa the other is from South Korea.  I will be watching and hopefully the Germans can pull it out.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 06, 2014, 05:16:00 pm
I mean what do you want me to say Atomic? You're full of shit as usual.

You said nobody cares about the World Cup. Well that's bullshit and you know it but if that's the way you feel stay away from this thread. I think you're trolling is what you're doing.

I care and know plenty of people who do. This idea that its only foreigners or illegal immigrants is highly offensive.

  I said Americans in general don't care.  I know two people who care a lot.  One is from South Africa the other is from South Korea.  I will be watching and hopefully the Germans can pull it out.

so do the 53 million hispanic Americans not count? That is a lot of people and they care...

the argument that "Americans" don't care is idiocy... we don't live in a Leave it to Beaver world

is soccer or the World Cup as popular as the NFL, NBA, MLB??? Of course not but so what?

If Americans in general don't care I don't see why ESPN is permanently talkinga bout soccer...its not like the old days man...goals are now included in the top 10 plays regularly, the ticker/crawl at the bottom has a lot of soccer info... there are premier league games regularly on NBC for crying out loud..

times are changing...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 06, 2014, 06:32:46 pm
I mean what do you want me to say Atomic? You're full of shit as usual.

You said nobody cares about the World Cup. Well that's bullshit and you know it but if that's the way you feel stay away from this thread. I think you're trolling is what you're doing.

I care and know plenty of people who do. This idea that its only foreigners or illegal immigrants is highly offensive.

  I said Americans in general don't care.  I know two people who care a lot.  One is from South Africa the other is from South Korea.  I will be watching and hopefully the Germans can pull it out.

so do the 53 million hispanic Americans not count? That is a lot of people and they care...

the argument that "Americans" don't care is idiocy... we don't live in a Leave it to Beaver world

is soccer or the World Cup as popular as the NFL, NBA, MLB??? Of course not but so what?

If Americans in general don't care I don't see why ESPN is permanently talkinga bout soccer...its not like the old days man...goals are now included in the top 10 plays regularly, the ticker/crawl at the bottom has a lot of soccer info... there are premier league games regularly on NBC for crying out loud..

times are changing...

I don't know any hispanics so I can't tell.if they like soccer.  53.million?  No way.

Anyways they have been saying soccer will soon be popular for 40.years.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 06, 2014, 07:09:13 pm
I mean what do you want me to say Atomic? You're full of shit as usual.

You said nobody cares about the World Cup. Well that's bullshit and you know it but if that's the way you feel stay away from this thread. I think you're trolling is what you're doing.

I care and know plenty of people who do. This idea that its only foreigners or illegal immigrants is highly offensive.

  I said Americans in general don't care.  I know two people who care a lot.  One is from South Africa the other is from South Korea.  I will be watching and hopefully the Germans can pull it out.

so do the 53 million hispanic Americans not count? That is a lot of people and they care...

the argument that "Americans" don't care is idiocy... we don't live in a Leave it to Beaver world

is soccer or the World Cup as popular as the NFL, NBA, MLB??? Of course not but so what?

If Americans in general don't care I don't see why ESPN is permanently talkinga bout soccer...its not like the old days man...goals are now included in the top 10 plays regularly, the ticker/crawl at the bottom has a lot of soccer info... there are premier league games regularly on NBC for crying out loud..

times are changing...

I don't know any hispanics so I can't tell.if they like soccer.  53.million?  No way.

Anyways they have been saying soccer will soon be popular for 40.years.

Dude I don't care if you like or don't like soccer...but get your facts straight

according to the 2010 US census there were more than 50 million hispanics.. thats LEGALLY...as you also no doubt know, in your infinite wisdom, hispanics are often undercounted...

but do the math......between 2010 and today how much you think its grown?...

thats before you factor illegal immigrants who will be legal fairly soon....

factor in, moving forward, higher reproductive rates among hispanics, continued immigration, and i think you know whats coming..



Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 07, 2014, 01:08:46 pm
Hutch, don't feed the trolls.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 07, 2014, 02:39:15 pm
no ribery at world cup...major bummer...also no falcao...

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 07, 2014, 07:52:49 pm
I mean what do you want me to say Atomic? You're full of shit as usual.

You said nobody cares about the World Cup. Well that's bullshit and you know it but if that's the way you feel stay away from this thread. I think you're trolling is what you're doing.

I care and know plenty of people who do. This idea that its only foreigners or illegal immigrants is highly offensive.

  I said Americans in general don't care.  I know two people who care a lot.  One is from South Africa the other is from South Korea.  I will be watching and hopefully the Germans can pull it out.

so do the 53 million hispanic Americans not count? That is a lot of people and they care...

the argument that "Americans" don't care is idiocy... we don't live in a Leave it to Beaver world

is soccer or the World Cup as popular as the NFL, NBA, MLB??? Of course not but so what?

If Americans in general don't care I don't see why ESPN is permanently talkinga bout soccer...its not like the old days man...goals are now included in the top 10 plays regularly, the ticker/crawl at the bottom has a lot of soccer info... there are premier league games regularly on NBC for crying out loud..

times are changing...

I don't know any hispanics so I can't tell.if they like soccer.  53.million?  No way.

Anyways they have been saying soccer will soon be popular for 40.years.

Dude I don't care if you like or don't like soccer...but get your facts straight

according to the 2010 US census there were more than 50 million hispanics.. thats LEGALLY...as you also no doubt know, in your infinite wisdom, hispanics are often undercounted...

but do the math......between 2010 and today how much you think its grown?...

thats before you factor illegal immigrants who will be legal fairly soon....

factor in, moving forward, higher reproductive rates among hispanics, continued immigration, and i think you know whats coming..





This country votes to become part of Mexico?

Who are you rooting for in this World Cup?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 09, 2014, 11:29:17 pm
I watched the End of the DC United Columbus game on TV today and it looked like they were lucky if 2000 people were there.  It ended in a zero zero tie.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 09, 2014, 11:30:41 pm
I watched the End of the DC United Columbus game on TV today and it looked like they were lucky if 2000 people were there.  It ended in a zero zero tie.
well, soccer is for fucking losers.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 10, 2014, 10:24:52 am
it's happening

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/10/sports/worldcup/american-soccer-fans-adapt-foreign-traditions.html?hp&_r=0
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 10, 2014, 11:44:20 am
it's happening

Inoffensive chants?  Don't like the term Nazi?

Those guys have a long way to go...

If the World Cup isn't for reinforcing racial stereotypes every four years, what good is it?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 11, 2014, 03:41:46 pm
FIFA is a mafia.

i like john oliver's comparison better:

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO): FIFA and the World Cup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33I

watch it to the end... spot on.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 12, 2014, 02:58:46 pm
on the Fifa is a mafia thread

Winner Of World Cup Hammered Out Just In Time For Tournament (http://www.theonion.com/articles/winner-of-world-cup-hammered-out-just-in-time-for,36264/)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 13, 2014, 12:58:45 pm
fuckin refs... embarassing..they need to subcontract the refereeing to the Premier League or something...or Champions League or something...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 13, 2014, 01:21:42 pm
fuckin refs... embarassing..they need to subcontract the refereeing to the Premier League or something...or Champions League or something...

Having the premier league refs would go over well.  Why would you think having referees from one country would make it more fair? 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 13, 2014, 01:57:50 pm
I agree, awful referee. Brazil might have won the game regardless but that mistake left an awful aftertaste to that game.

Premier League referees let players play a more physical style of football, which makes games very attractive. In yesterday's case Fred sold it and the referee bought it face value. What would prevent a referee to fall for it?

Anyways, good Mexico win, can't wait for Chile-Australia.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 13, 2014, 03:55:25 pm
Ooooohhhhhh Robin Van Persie!!!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 13, 2014, 08:35:13 pm
such a tough win. australia was harder to beat than i thought it would be, but we prevailed, vidal's knee held well and i'll take the 3 points knowing there's space to improve. a tale of two halves as always, but good over all.


also, such a delight to see holland destroy spain, and that first van persie goal was a beauty.

spain will try to make an statement against us, but last time we played they tied us in injury time. god i love the world cup.
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Post by: atomic on June 14, 2014, 08:40:05 pm
such a tough win. australia was harder to beat than i thought it would be, but we prevailed, vidal's knee held well and i'll take the 3 points knowing there's space to improve. a tale of two halves as always, but good over all.


also, such a delight to see holland destroy spain, and that first van persie goal was a beauty.

spain will try to make an statement against us, but last time we played they tied us in injury time. god i love the world cup.


I have no idea who you mean by "us".

The Italian / England game was pretty good.  Glad Italy won.  British soccer is so overrated.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 15, 2014, 07:09:51 pm
http://gawker.com/appropropriate-watch-cats-playing-soccer-on-a-tiny-l-1590940967
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Post by: vansmack on June 15, 2014, 09:11:07 pm
I have no idea who you mean by "us".

This may shock you, might even scare you a lot for absolutely no reason, but not everybody on this board was born in America.
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Post by: vansmack on June 15, 2014, 09:13:03 pm
spain will try to make an statement against us, but last time we played they tied us in injury time. god i love the world cup.

I think they were exposed for their age, slow back four and that Casillas is past his prime.  With De Gea now out, I think they're in worse shape than most people think.
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Post by: atomic on June 15, 2014, 11:25:32 pm
I have no idea who you mean by "us".

This may shock you, might even scare you a lot for absolutely no reason, but not everybody on this board was born in America.

Why would that scare me.  But saying"us". When you are t on the team and it isn't the United States it might be helpful to state what fucking country you are talking about,  he might be from Iran, Korea, or Costa Rica but I have no fucking way of knowing. 


Final minute of Switzerland game was pretty exciting.  French game was boring.  Are their anyone that is actually French on their team,
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Post by: lagas on June 16, 2014, 07:48:06 am
I have no idea who you mean by "us".

This may shock you, might even scare you a lot for absolutely no reason, but not everybody on this board was born in America.

Why would that scare me.  But saying"us". When you are t on the team and it isn't the United States it might be helpful to state what fucking country you are talking about,  he might be from Iran, Korea, or Costa Rica but I have no fucking way of knowing. 


Final minute of Switzerland game was pretty exciting.  French game was boring.  Are their anyone that is actually French on their team,

Chile - Pinochet's country, if the reference helps  ;)
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Post by: James Ford on June 16, 2014, 08:07:00 am
+1

I have no idea who you mean by "us".

This may shock you, might even scare you a lot for absolutely no reason, but not everybody on this board was born in America.

Why would that scare me.  But saying"us". When you are t on the team and it isn't the United States it might be helpful to state what fucking country you are talking about,  he might be from Iran, Korea, or Costa Rica but I have no fucking way of knowing. 


Final minute of Switzerland game was pretty exciting.  French game was boring.  Are their anyone that is actually French on their team,
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Post by: James Ford on June 16, 2014, 08:08:00 am
I think we can all agree that watching the Spurs stomp the Heat last night was more exciting than a weeks worth of soccer!
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 16, 2014, 08:11:16 am
I think we can all agree that watching the Spurs stomp the Heat last night was more exciting than a weeks worth of soccer!

Actually I'm certain we can't agree on that

-edit - or anything for that matter

lastly...why do we have to agree on anything?   
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Post by: atomic on June 16, 2014, 10:29:47 am
I think we can all agree that watching the Spurs stomp the Heat last night was more exciting than a weeks worth of soccer!

I didn't realize the NBA season was still going on. Haven't watched an NBA game in over a decade.  Basketball while fun to play is boring to watch.
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Post by: Yada on June 16, 2014, 10:32:54 am




 Are their anyone that is actually French on their team,

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Post by: James Ford on June 16, 2014, 10:38:48 am
There's actually more French guys on the Spurs than there are on the French soccer team.
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Post by: atomic on June 16, 2014, 03:31:42 pm
So  I recorded the German/Portugal game and was avoiding this and any sport site until I saw the game.  Then I went on Facebook and of course someone posted in German the final score.  Oh well I guess it will still be fun to watch them win.
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Post by: hutch on June 17, 2014, 10:26:28 am
Awesome US win..... even if I don't understand why they virtually stopped playing after the first goal and Bradley looked as I bad as I can recall (WTF?)

I think the World Cup has caught on in the US... I mean just looking at the coverage on television etc, the viewing parties in places like Chicago....

Doesn't mean everyone is going to enjoy it though... ;D

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Post by: atomic on June 17, 2014, 10:55:12 am
Awesome US win..... even if I don't understand why they virtually stopped playing after the first goal and Bradley looked as I bad as I can recall (WTF?)

I think the World Cup has caught on in the US... I mean just looking at the coverage on television etc, the viewing parties in places like Chicago....

Doesn't mean everyone is going to enjoy it though... ;D



Ghana was such the better team.  US got very lucky.  Overall a very boring soccer game.  I guess the US hope is that Ghana beats Portugal.  I see them losing to Germany horribly and losing to Portugal.  So I guess that would be their best hope and hope to advance on goal differential.

 I like how soccer players need to be carted off the field for doing such things as running down the field and kicking the ball.  I have never seen a sport with so many injuries due to nothing.  What a bunch of wimps.
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Post by: hutch on June 17, 2014, 11:08:18 am
Awesome US win..... even if I don't understand why they virtually stopped playing after the first goal and Bradley looked as I bad as I can recall (WTF?)

I think the World Cup has caught on in the US... I mean just looking at the coverage on television etc, the viewing parties in places like Chicago....

Doesn't mean everyone is going to enjoy it though... ;D



Ghana was such the better team.  US got very lucky.  Overall a very boring soccer game.  I guess the US hope is that Ghana beats Portugal.  I see them losing to Germany horribly and losing to Portugal.  So I guess that would be their best hope and hope to advance on goal differential.

 I like how soccer players need to be carted off the field for doing such things as running down the field and kicking the ball.  I have never seen a sport with so many injuries due to nothing.  What a bunch of wimps.

you're such a low level troll.....not worth my time.
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Post by: atomic on June 17, 2014, 11:57:22 am
Awesome US win..... even if I don't understand why they virtually stopped playing after the first goal and Bradley looked as I bad as I can recall (WTF?)

I think the World Cup has caught on in the US... I mean just looking at the coverage on television etc, the viewing parties in places like Chicago....

Doesn't mean everyone is going to enjoy it though... ;D



Ghana was such the better team.  US got very lucky.  Overall a very boring soccer game.  I guess the US hope is that Ghana beats Portugal.  I see them losing to Germany horribly and losing to Portugal.  So I guess that would be their best hope and hope to advance on goal differential.

 I like how soccer players need to be carted off the field for doing such things as running down the field and kicking the ball.  I have never seen a sport with so many injuries due to nothing.  What a bunch of wimps.

you're such a low level troll.....not worth my time.

Let me know what was the trolling?  The complaining about  how wimpy soccer players are or how bad the US team is?  I was talking with my wife last night and we agreed that the only US  soccer player of any era any American people in general know is Alexi Lalas. 
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Post by: vansmack on June 17, 2014, 12:04:38 pm
Bradley looked as I bad as I can recall (WTF?)

This.  I've been on the US as much as anyone about possession, and he's the key.  His poor play was both surprising and disappointing.

Thankfully, Ghana was horrible in the final third, otherwise, the result would have been much different.  Happy about the 3 points, but not confident in the future.
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Post by: lagas on June 17, 2014, 12:33:29 pm
Bradley looked as I bad as I can recall (WTF?)

This.  I've been on the US as much as anyone about possession, and he's the key.  His poor play was both surprising and disappointing.

Thankfully, Ghana was horrible in the final third, otherwise, the result would have been much different.  Happy about the 3 points, but not confident in the future.

The good thing is that Portugal is reeling and the US knows where it has to improve. Emotionally Portugal and the US couldn't be in more different places, all this favors the US, IMO.

Same thing between Chile and Spain. They are experiencing some sort of identity crisis and we know what we have to do. The game will be extremely fun (if nothing 'suspicious' happens) and nerver-racking at the same time.
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Post by: hutch on June 17, 2014, 12:42:44 pm
Bradley looked as I bad as I can recall (WTF?)

This.  I've been on the US as much as anyone about possession, and he's the key.  His poor play was both surprising and disappointing.

Thankfully, Ghana was horrible in the final third, otherwise, the result would have been much different.  Happy about the 3 points, but not confident in the future.

The good thing is that Portugal is reeling and the US knows where it has to improve. Emotionally Portugal and the US couldn't be in more different places, all this favors the US, IMO.

Same thing between Chile and Spain. They are experiencing some sort of identity crisis and we know what we have to do. The game will be extremely fun (if nothing 'suspicious' happens) and nerver-racking at the same time.

not to mention I believe two Portugal starters are out....Its important to remember that Portugal had to go to a playoff to qualify (vs Sweden)... people think because they have Ronaldo that they are a powerhouse but I would put them a notch below..Ronaldo with Real is different than Ronaldo with Portugal....

i would love to see Chile take out Spain and I think they can do it

every game is nerve wracking but when it involves your country its almost hard to watch.....I was born in the US but raised Argentine until I was about 13....I grew up watching Argentina and the World Cup is all that matters...but every WC I find myself more and more interested in the US team... I'm just so happy that the US won the game yesterday....I just think it sends a message "Hey, we can play too!" which has to be great for all the little kids who play soccer....
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Post by: hutch on June 17, 2014, 01:19:33 pm
Clint Dempsey getting his nose broken was pretty brutal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ajSDnYrXHw

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Post by: atomic on June 17, 2014, 01:58:05 pm
Clint Dempsey getting his nose broken was pretty brutal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ajSDnYrXHw



That was nothing.  In hockey he wouldn't even have left the ice.  Soccer players are such babies.
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Post by: atomic on June 17, 2014, 01:59:59 pm
Bradley looked as I bad as I can recall (WTF?)

This.  I've been on the US as much as anyone about possession, and he's the key.  His poor play was both surprising and disappointing.

Thankfully, Ghana was horrible in the final third, otherwise, the result would have been much different.  Happy about the 3 points, but not confident in the future.

The good thing is that Portugal is reeling and the US knows where it has to improve. Emotionally Portugal and the US couldn't be in more different places, all this favors the US, IMO.

Same thing between Chile and Spain. They are experiencing some sort of identity crisis and we know what we have to do. The game will be extremely fun (if nothing 'suspicious' happens) and nerver-racking at the same time.

not to mention I believe two Portugal starters are out....Its important to remember that Portugal had to go to a playoff to qualify (vs Sweden)... people think because they have Ronaldo that they are a powerhouse but I would put them a notch below..Ronaldo with Real is different than Ronaldo with Portugal....

i would love to see Chile take out Spain and I think they can do it

every game is nerve wracking but when it involves your country its almost hard to watch.....I was born in the US but raised Argentine until I was about 13....I grew up watching Argentina and the World Cup is all that matters...but every WC I find myself more and more interested in the US team... I'm just so happy that the US won the game yesterday....I just think it sends a message "Hey, we can play too!" which has to be great for all the little kids who play soccer....

You forget that the US was horrible yesterday.  Basically they did nothing for 95 percent of the game.  That won't work against Portugal.  Anyway Germany is doing well.  Although I think they had the refs on their side in that game. 
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Post by: hutch on June 17, 2014, 05:11:41 pm
Atomic wrong again:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/usa-has-the-largest-foreign-fan-base-in-brazil-for-the-world-cup-181857386.html
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Post by: vansmack on June 17, 2014, 05:26:36 pm
Atomic wrong again:

Really?  We're going to start posting every time?  There's not enough time in the day...

Like this for example:

Clint Dempsey getting his nose broken was pretty brutal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ajSDnYrXHw



That was nothing.  In hockey he wouldn't even have left the ice.  Soccer players are such babies.

Both sports make you leave the field of play when you're bleeding.

It's better just to ignore when he's needlessly trying to get someone's attention.
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Post by: vansmack on June 17, 2014, 05:29:51 pm
That was a pretty damn exciting goalless draw.  Mexico on their heels for the first 30 minutes, but gained a ton of confidence as the match wore on.  How important is tomorrow's Croatia Cameroon match now?  I didn't have that match rated very high on my must see, but it's impact on the last day of the group is huge now.  Can't wait! 
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Post by: hutch on June 17, 2014, 05:42:08 pm
That was a pretty damn exciting goalless draw.  Mexico on their heels for the first 30 minutes, but gained a ton of confidence as the match wore on.  How important is tomorrow's Croatia Cameroon match now?  I didn't have that match rated very high on my must see, but it's impact on the last day of the group is huge now.  Can't wait! 

yeah..very exciting.. I knew Mexico would be tough.. 

I do think Brazil isn't playing very well but that's their style at the World Cup..they always seem to start slow and find their way..

needless to say Ochoa was unreal...

I wonder if the Klinsmann wanted Mexico in the WC due to economic interests....still can't get over how we let them qualify...
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Post by: shemptiness on June 17, 2014, 05:53:16 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqXDIkIIcAAHfU-.jpg)
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Post by: vansmack on June 17, 2014, 06:14:44 pm
If there was a like button Shemp, I would click it.
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Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2014, 04:46:47 pm
Congrats Lagas....
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Post by: hutch on June 18, 2014, 05:01:44 pm
Congrats Lagas....

yeah..

chile has looked good..


first time ever i can recall yelling about chilean goals.... at least they have an argentine coach! :)
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Post by: atomic on June 18, 2014, 05:03:05 pm
Congrats Lagas....

How come no one congratulates me when Germany wins?
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Post by: lagas on June 18, 2014, 05:47:42 pm
Congrats Lagas....

yeah..

chile has looked good..


first time ever i can recall yelling about chilean goals.... at least they have an argentine coach! :)


thanks guys, we didi it, and I have no voice left. what a game...

 ;D
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Post by: vansmack on June 18, 2014, 07:00:01 pm
Alex Song.  Match fixing?

That's all I can think of....

Brazil is stoked as Cameroon have nothing to play for, but Mexico need be very worried...
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Post by: hutch on June 18, 2014, 08:47:20 pm
Croatia could definitely beat Mexico.....My "picks" have been shredded but I do have Brazil and Croatia moving on...

What is up with Steve Mcmanaman (sic). .... he is beyond embittered....its painful to listen to him...  got the impression Ian Darke wanted to wack him a few times today...he was saying such stupidities..but its the bitterness that stands out...
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Post by: vansmack on June 19, 2014, 12:02:09 am
I've been watching Univision.
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 19, 2014, 01:08:51 pm
I've been watching Univision.
me too...but don't speak a lick of Spanish.  But love the excitement of the announcers
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Post by: hutch on June 19, 2014, 05:01:12 pm
Suarez backs it up...


ESPN announcers should say "Suarez es much hombre"
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Post by: atomic on June 20, 2014, 01:40:01 pm
I feel like the entire board is watching World Cup games as they have cushy government jobs while I am stuck in the office.
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Post by: Yada on June 20, 2014, 02:12:54 pm
I feel like the entire board is watching World Cup games as they have cushy government jobs while I am stuck in the office.

Assuming your job has the luxury of high speed internet, i'd recommend tuning into ESPN3
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Post by: betao on June 20, 2014, 02:32:33 pm
anyone have a direct link to the live stream of the games? I've tried ESPN but don't have the login info for the service providers they ask for.
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 20, 2014, 02:44:16 pm
I feel like the entire board is watching World Cup games as they have cushy government jobs while I am stuck in the office.
Not at all. I would stare at the wall in my office blankly for two hours before I'd watch the glorified kick-the-can that is soccer.
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 20, 2014, 05:16:27 pm
anyone have a direct link to the live stream of the games? I've tried ESPN but don't have the login info for the service providers they ask for.

Univision baby
GOOOOOOOOL is about all I understand
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Post by: Yada on June 22, 2014, 07:56:51 pm
Shit.
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Post by: hutch on June 22, 2014, 08:21:35 pm
Shit.

I still like our chances to advance... you have to if you look at the group standings


but that was sickening to watch.... Bradley's giveaway cost us the game... He doesn't look good at all at this Cup... I'm really surprised...

not sure about the 5 minutes added on... do they add on extra time because of the break for excessive heat?
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Post by: atomic on June 22, 2014, 08:48:40 pm
Shit.

I still like our chances to advance... you have to if you look at the group standings


but that was sickening to watch.... Bradley's giveaway cost us the game... He doesn't look good at all at this Cup... I'm really surprised...

not sure about the 5 minutes added on... do they add on extra time because of the break for excessive heat?

It is for all the time for players laying on the ground pretending to be injured.  Anyway all the US has to do is not to get beat too badly by Germany and they will advance.  They have a five goal differential up on Portugal. 
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Post by: hutch on June 22, 2014, 10:24:27 pm
Shit.

I still like our chances to advance... you have to if you look at the group standings


but that was sickening to watch.... Bradley's giveaway cost us the game... He doesn't look good at all at this Cup... I'm really surprised...

not sure about the 5 minutes added on... do they add on extra time because of the break for excessive heat?

It is for all the time for players laying on the ground pretending to be injured.  Anyway all the US has to do is not to get beat too badly by Germany and they will advance.  They have a five goal differential up on Portugal. 

you sure seem to watch a lot of games, and know quite a bit, for someone who hates it so! :)


I liked Zuzi today.....

oh and they only have a +2 differential on Ghana so.....
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Post by: atomic on June 22, 2014, 11:50:28 pm
Shit.

I still like our chances to advance... you have to if you look at the group standings


but that was sickening to watch.... Bradley's giveaway cost us the game... He doesn't look good at all at this Cup... I'm really surprised...

not sure about the 5 minutes added on... do they add on extra time because of the break for excessive heat?

It is for all the time for players laying on the ground pretending to be injured.  Anyway all the US has to do is not to get beat too badly by Germany and they will advance.  They have a five goal differential up on Portugal. 

you sure seem to watch a lot of games, and know quite a bit, for someone who hates it so! :)


I liked Zuzi today.....

oh and they only have a +2 differential on Ghana so.....

I thought since they beat Ghana they would advance if tied.  I guess I am wrong.  The way they run the first round makes no sense at all.  But whatever. 

Soccer is fine every four years like Figure Skating, Swimming or Track and Field. 
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Post by: betao on June 23, 2014, 08:46:58 am
It's not confusing. It's mainly at this point based on goal differential. From ESPN, here's the breakdown on what needs to happen for the US to advance:

Quote
Simplest Scenarios

- Germany: Advance with win/draw vs. USA
- United States: Advance with win/draw vs. GER
- Portugal: Advance with win vs. GHA and GER/USA do not tie, IF POR wins tiebreak with loser (see below)
- Ghana: Advance with win vs. POR and GER/USA do not tie, IF GHA wins tiebreak with loser (see below)

U.S. Scenarios

- Win/draw vs. Germany
- Loss and Portugal-Ghana draw
- Loss and win tiebreaker vs. Portugal-Ghana winner

Tiebreakers

If the United States loses, Ghana would qualify instead if either game is decided by a margin of two goals or more. If the U.S. loses by one goal, Ghana would need to win by two goals or be involved in a higher-scoring one-goal win. For instance, a 1-0 scoreline in both games would put the United States through on head-to-head. So, if the U.S. loses 1-0, then Ghana must win 2-1 to qualify on goals scored.

To surpass the U.S., Portugal will need a goal-difference swing of five (head-to-head is level). So for instance, Portugal would need to win 3-0 and U.S. lose 2-0, among other equivalent scorelines. The teams will draw lots if goal difference is identical (this would happen with a 3-0 U.S. defeat and a 2-0 Portugal win, for example).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 23, 2014, 10:01:40 am
What kind of sport draws lots to see who advances?  First off they shouldn't have these stupid ties.  Play until someone wins.  You have this once every four years can't you do it right?  If there was an absolute tie they could have a day between group stages and knock out round where the teams could play a game to decide who advances.  No wonder Americans don't like soccer.  Ties? Unamerican.
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 23, 2014, 10:04:03 am
So, if the US loses to Germany by multiple goals, its likely they're out of the tournament and people will stop pretending like they give a shit about this glorified version of kick the can for another four years, right? Viva Germany.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 23, 2014, 11:16:56 am
So, if the US loses to Germany by multiple goals, its likely they're out of the tournament and people will stop pretending like they give a shit about this glorified version of kick the can for another four years, right? Viva Germany.

Deutchland Uber Alles
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 23, 2014, 11:20:42 am
So, if the US loses to Germany by multiple goals, its likely they're out of the tournament and people will stop pretending like they give a shit about this glorified version of kick the can for another four years, right? Viva Germany.

Deutchland Uber Alles

these guys, agree, with you

(http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Screen-Shot-2014-06-21-at-6.55.09-PM.png)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on June 23, 2014, 11:52:18 am
What kind of sport draws lots to see who advances?  First off they shouldn't have these stupid ties.  Play until someone wins.  You have this once every four years can't you do it right?  If there was an absolute tie they could have a day between group stages and knock out round where the teams could play a game to decide who advances.  No wonder Americans don't like soccer.  Ties? Unamerican.
So, if the US loses to Germany by multiple goals, its likely they're out of the tournament and people will stop pretending like they give a shit about this glorified version of kick the can for another four years, right? Viva Germany.

You don't have to like soccer. That's fine. We get it.

But on behalf of those of us that are excited, I kindly ask, from one boardie to another, that if you're only coming in here to find a reason to bash the sport, then please don't post in this thread.

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Post by: betao on June 23, 2014, 11:53:09 am
:)
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 23, 2014, 11:58:49 am
+1
haters gonna hate...just keep it to the various random thoughts thread
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 23, 2014, 01:58:06 pm
What kind of sport draws lots to see who advances?  First off they shouldn't have these stupid ties.  Play until someone wins.  You have this once every four years can't you do it right?  If there was an absolute tie they could have a day between group stages and knock out round where the teams could play a game to decide who advances.  No wonder Americans don't like soccer.  Ties? Unamerican.
So, if the US loses to Germany by multiple goals, its likely they're out of the tournament and people will stop pretending like they give a shit about this glorified version of kick the can for another four years, right? Viva Germany.

You don't have to like soccer. That's fine. We get it.

But on behalf of those of us that are excited, I kindly ask, from one boardie to another, that if you're only coming in here to find a reason to bash the sport, then please don't post in this thread.



It means you don't like soccer to complain about how all the stupid things they do in the world cup?  You are trying to tell me you like it when they draw names to see whom advance to the next stage? 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on June 23, 2014, 03:45:29 pm
Fair enough - I don't agree with some of the alleged practices of players, i.e. diving and stuff, but in reading the past few pages of this thread, you've said alot of things that could be taken negatively towards the sports ("No one cares about the World Cup in America" and "soccer players are such babies"). You may have your opinions, I'll disagree with them, and that's fine and all, but it does come off as negative because some of us that are excited about the sport and want to see the sport grow in America. I grew up hearing these comments when I was younger and played the game was genuinely excited MLS games, EPL, and International matches. I always had to try to fight these comments off. You've been watching some matches, so I assume you like the sport itself and like me think it's absolutely exciting when two teams are truly playing the game. But yeah - that's why I came off as defensive.

Soccer is plenty popular in the US - is it as big of a deal as the NFL or the MLB? No way. But that's fine. In all honestly, I think what fans of the sport here in America want is for the sport to grow to a competitive level against the rest of the world rather than to just be the biggest thing in the country.

Anyhow, back to the discussion at hand :)

What does FIFA mean by drawing lots? No way they just "randomly" select a winner if it comes down to a legit tie. I've never seen that happen
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 23, 2014, 03:58:45 pm
Fair enough - I don't agree with some of the alleged practices of players, i.e. diving and stuff, but in reading the past few pages of this thread, you've said alot of things that could be taken negatively towards the sports ("No one cares about the World Cup in America" and "soccer players are such babies"). You may have your opinions, I'll disagree with them, and that's fine and all, but it does come off as negative because some of us that are excited about the sport and want to see the sport grow in America. I grew up hearing these comments when I was younger and played the game was genuinely excited MLS games, EPL, and International matches. I always had to try to fight these comments off. You've been watching some matches, so I assume you like the sport itself and like me think it's absolutely exciting when two teams are truly playing the game. But yeah - that's why I came off as defensive.

Soccer is plenty popular in the US - is it as big of a deal as the NFL or the MLB? No way. But that's fine. In all honestly, I think what fans of the sport here in America want is for the sport to grow to a competitive level against the rest of the world rather than to just be the biggest thing in the country.

Anyhow, back to the discussion at hand :)

What does FIFA mean by drawing lots? No way they just "randomly" select a winner if it comes down to a legit tie. I've never seen that happen

I want Germany to crush the US because I have been a Germany supporter all along.  Also, I would like for a country that actually cares about soccer to win.  You say people here care.  I bet before the world cup started most people didn't know any players on the team.  
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on June 23, 2014, 04:27:06 pm
I want Germany to crush the US because I have been a Germany supporter all along.  Also, I would like for a country that actually cares about soccer to win.  You say people here care.  I bet before the world cup started most people didn't know any players on the team.  

Ahh, yes. If only sports were about the fans that care the most and Faith No More wins EVERYTHING!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1g9PFtSCKw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1g9PFtSCKw)

For what it's worth, I can name 5 German players. Before the cup, I could only name two US players.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 23, 2014, 04:38:32 pm
was one of them Jrgen Klinsmann
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 23, 2014, 06:52:13 pm
more feeding the troll who pretends to hate soccer but seems to watch every game...oh and he is an american who cheers for germany
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 23, 2014, 07:03:12 pm
if anybody wants advice on what games to watch when they are going on at the same time feel free to ask me! :)

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 23, 2014, 07:06:22 pm
the mexico croatia second half was great!!!!!!!

mexico-netherlands
brazil-chile

are going to be great round of 16 games...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on June 23, 2014, 07:43:39 pm
yes they will. Brazil v Chile will be heated.

Croatia played with pure anger today when down by 3. It got them a goal but it also got them a red card.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 23, 2014, 08:01:50 pm
yes they will. Brazil v Chile will be heated.

Croatia played with pure anger today when down by 3. It got them a goal but it also got them a red card.

Brazil/referee/FIFA v Chile, if you ask me
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 23, 2014, 08:32:56 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/portugal-match-sets-viewership-marks-193737991--sow.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 23, 2014, 08:41:39 pm
the mexico croatia second half was great!!!!!!!

mexico-netherlands
brazil-chile

are going to be great round of 16 games...

I hope Netherlands destroys Mexico. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 23, 2014, 08:46:36 pm
the mexico croatia second half was great!!!!!!!

mexico-netherlands
brazil-chile

are going to be great round of 16 games...

I hope Netherlands destroys Mexico. 

well I am torn..

I want the netherlands to win a Cup...they are the most deserving of the teams that has yet to win

on the other hand Mexico plays in the same conference as the US and is latin american and western hemisphere..

on the other hand I cant' stand mexico...everything about them..

on the other hand Atomic is rooting for the dutch so....

its really a tough call.....

I will probably root for the underdog (Mexico)

actually i have to look at the brackets to see before i make a final choice ....would the winner of this pllay the winner of Brazil vs Chile..if that were so I'd probably have to want the dutch as a Netherlands Brazil quarterfinal would be hot...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 23, 2014, 08:48:00 pm
more feeding the troll who pretends to hate soccer but seems to watch every game...oh and he is an american who cheers for Germany
Lore

My mother and sister were born in Germany.  Over 90 percent of my relatives live in Germany.  A lot of American players aren't even American.. For example Iceland.  I have a friend who is cheering for Korea.  And you can cheer for Mexico and I won't complain
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 23, 2014, 09:10:53 pm
may the best team win.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on June 23, 2014, 11:33:38 pm
Holland has been playing great this tournament, they're definitely working for it. It's hard for me to root for Mexico, one of USA's biggest rivals  ;D

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on June 23, 2014, 11:34:39 pm
yes they will. Brazil v Chile will be heated.

Croatia played with pure anger today when down by 3. It got them a goal but it also got them a red card.

Brazil/referee/FIFA v Chile, if you ask me

Good point. If I was a ref I'd be terrified to work one of the Brazil games.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: stevewizzle on June 23, 2014, 11:37:59 pm
A lot of American players aren't even American..

yeah i don't think you know what you're talking about.

http://www.vox.com/2014/6/18/5818920/there-are-actually-no-immigrants-on-the-us-soccer-team-and-thats-weird
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on June 24, 2014, 12:14:00 am

A lot of American players aren't even American.. For example Iceland.
Aron Johannsson was born in Mobile, Alabama and went school in Florida.
Learned that watching the last game. Maybe if you didn't spend so much time projecting bias on your own countries fans and paid attention, you could put up an intelligent conversation.
Of course, trolling and pulling 'facts' outta your ass is certainly a lot easier.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 24, 2014, 06:15:04 pm
The success of CONCACAF and CONMEBOL have been more than impressive.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 24, 2014, 06:32:37 pm

A lot of American players aren't even American.. For example Iceland.
Aron Johannsson was born in Mobile, Alabama and went school in Florida. potheads
Learned that watching the last game. Maybe if you didn't spend so much time projecting bias on your own countries fans and paid attention, you could put up an intelligent conversation.
Of course, trolling and pulling 'facts' outta your ass is certainly a lot easier.

He was born to Icelandic parents and moved to Iceland when he was three.  He is about as American as I am portugesse
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 24, 2014, 06:34:22 pm
so bummed about Luis Suarez...I could see him getting banned for the rest of Cup..what a huge loss for Uruguay....

I'm not sure biting someone is so much worse than a well timed knee to the face but I realize I am in the minority.... :)

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 24, 2014, 06:35:17 pm
A lot of American players aren't even American..

yeah i don't think you know what you're talking about.

http://www.vox.com/2014/6/18/5818920/there-are-actually-no-immigrants-on-the-us-soccer-team-and-thats-weird

That link shows that only 4 players on the team are American.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 24, 2014, 06:37:22 pm
so bummed about Luis Suarez...I could see him getting banned for the rest of Cup..what a huge loss for Uruguay....

I'm not sure biting someone is so much worse than a well timed knee to the facwe but I realize I am in the minority.... :)



Seems like the reason South American teams are winning is that they have refs in their pocket.  I guess no one wants to be decapitated.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: stevewizzle on June 24, 2014, 06:38:40 pm
A lot of American players aren't even American..

yeah i don't think you know what you're talking about.

http://www.vox.com/2014/6/18/5818920/there-are-actually-no-immigrants-on-the-us-soccer-team-and-thats-weird

That link shows that only 4 players on the team are American.

you do not know how to read, it all makes so much sense now!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 24, 2014, 07:11:20 pm
so bummed about Luis Suarez...I could see him getting banned for the rest of Cup..what a huge loss for Uruguay....

I'm not sure biting someone is so much worse than a well timed knee to the face but I realize I am in the minority.... :)



I could see a lengthy international ban but with FIFA you never know...when I saw it happen I could not believe my eyes..."he did it again!!"

It would be interesting what a mental health professional say about this, he clearly has issues, a sort of arrested development?, anger issues? a mix of both? it sure was not accidental  ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 24, 2014, 07:55:13 pm
It would be interesting what a mental health professional say about this, he clearly has issues, a sort of arrested development?, anger issues? a mix of both? it sure was not accidental  ;D

You mean like this guy? (http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/24/suarez-bite-2014-world-cup/)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 24, 2014, 09:11:27 pm
so bummed about Luis Suarez...I could see him getting banned for the rest of Cup..what a huge loss for Uruguay....

I'm not sure biting someone is so much worse than a well timed knee to the face but I realize I am in the minority.... :)



I could see a lengthy international ban but with FIFA you never know...when I saw it happen I could not believe my eyes..."he did it again!!"

It would be interesting what a mental health professional say about this, he clearly has issues, a sort of arrested development?, anger issues? a mix of both? it sure was not accidental  ;D

If he bit someone for the third time a lifetime ban seems appropiate. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on June 24, 2014, 10:26:34 pm
ban that dude for life. no more slaps on the wrist.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 25, 2014, 08:34:36 am
It would be interesting what a mental health professional say about this, he clearly has issues, a sort of arrested development?, anger issues? a mix of both? it sure was not accidental  ;D

You mean like this guy? (http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/24/suarez-bite-2014-world-cup/)

fascinating...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 25, 2014, 10:23:55 am
It would be interesting what a mental health professional say about this, he clearly has issues, a sort of arrested development?, anger issues? a mix of both? it sure was not accidental  ;D

You mean like this guy? (http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/24/suarez-bite-2014-world-cup/)

I like this comment:

"If allowed to ever play again at the professional level, Suarez should be required to wear a muzzle at all times while on the pitch."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 25, 2014, 11:05:05 am
FIFA announced ...its disciplinary committee has opened proceedings against Suarez  (http://soccerly.com/article/soccerly/fifa-sanctions-uruguays-luis-suarez#source=nbcsidebar)

wow...they 'may' actually do something about it!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2014, 08:23:51 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Sm3FIAz.gif)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on June 26, 2014, 09:16:05 am
Need a note to get you out of work today to watch the USA-Germany game? Coach Klinsmann's got you covered:

https://twitter.com/ussoccer/status/481927467268313088/photo/1
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 26, 2014, 10:04:36 am
Four-month ban, including 9 international matches for Surez

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/26/world-cup-luis-suarez-ban-biting-uruguay
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 26, 2014, 10:27:56 am
Four-month ban, including 9 international matches for Surez

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/26/world-cup-luis-suarez-ban-biting-uruguay


bummer but predicatable
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on June 26, 2014, 10:30:29 am
Four-month ban, including 9 international matches for Surez

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/26/world-cup-luis-suarez-ban-biting-uruguay

just about right
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 26, 2014, 10:31:42 am
Ghana team seems to be in a near mutiny... two players kicked off team...could have implications for US although we control our destiny... I don't get a lot of the African teams...work so hard to get to the World Cup and then self destruct..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 10:33:27 am
Four-month ban, including 9 international matches for Surez

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/26/world-cup-luis-suarez-ban-biting-uruguay


bummer but predicatable

You thought he should get more?  

Anyway go Germany.  Hopefully they can humiliate the "American Team".  

I think I know why soccer is so popular in so many places. You don't have to big and tall to play the sport.  It isn't like Football or Basketball where you have to be huge or even Hockey where you have to pretty muscular to play.  Any half a man can play the game.  It is probably the same reason super-hero movies are popular.  Small guys can dream they can suceed in real life.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 10:34:48 am
Ghana team seems to be in a near mutiny... two players kicked off team...could have implications for US although we control our destiny... I don't get a lot of the African teams...work so hard to get to the World Cup and then self destruct..

Well they haven't bitten or head butted anyone have they? 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 26, 2014, 10:35:48 am
Ghana team seems to be in a near mutiny... two players kicked off team...could have implications for US although we control our destiny... I don't get a lot of the African teams...work so hard to get to the World Cup and then self destruct..

Reminds me of France in 2010, although I think that was far worse
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 26, 2014, 10:36:13 am
Four-month ban, including 9 international matches for Surez

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/26/world-cup-luis-suarez-ban-biting-uruguay


bummer but predicatable

You thought he should get more?  



I thought he should get nothing....but I'm a huge Uruguay supporter so I'm a bit biased! :)

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 10:38:04 am
Four-month ban, including 9 international matches for Surez

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/26/world-cup-luis-suarez-ban-biting-uruguay


bummer but predicatable

You thought he should get more?  



I thought he should get nothing....but I'm a huge Uruguay supporter so I'm a bit biased! :)



I am big Orioles fan but I think Manny should still be suspended. He got off easy in my opinion for a third time biter. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 26, 2014, 11:10:23 am
He will bite again.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 11:46:08 am
(http://www.pbh2.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/soccer-dive-ear-flick.gif)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: stevewizzle on June 26, 2014, 12:17:34 pm
i've only got gamecast going right now, but it looks like the germany-US collusion pact remains intact has been compromised.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 01:24:13 pm
i've only got gamecast going right now, but it looks like the germany-US collusion pact remains intact.

Colluding to let the German's win?  Anyway hopefully Ghana can score a couple of goals so we can end this thing. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: stevewizzle on June 26, 2014, 01:34:31 pm
i've only got gamecast going right now, but it looks like the germany-US collusion pact remains intact.

Colluding to let the German's win?  Anyway hopefully Ghana can score a couple of goals so we can end this thing. 

please run into moving traffic
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: stevewizzle on June 26, 2014, 01:39:19 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/06/25/upshot/984-ways-the-united-states-can-advance-to-the-next-round-of-the-world-cup.html?_r=0

this is helpful.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 01:40:35 pm
i've only got gamecast going right now, but it looks like the germany-US collusion pact remains intact.

Colluding to let the German's win?  Anyway hopefully Ghana can score a couple of goals so we can end this thing. 

please run into moving traffic

Sore loser. If Germany lost I would be much more sporting loser than you. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 01:41:21 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/06/25/upshot/984-ways-the-united-states-can-advance-to-the-next-round-of-the-world-cup.html?_r=0

this is helpful.

If Ghana wins I think they are in as they scored more goals.  I didn't bother to read the link.  Well so much for Ghana winning.  I think at this point it looks like the US will advance.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: stevewizzle on June 26, 2014, 01:45:38 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/06/25/upshot/984-ways-the-united-states-can-advance-to-the-next-round-of-the-world-cup.html?_r=0

this is helpful.

If Ghana wins I think they are in as they scored more goals.  I didn't bother to read the link.  Well so much for Ghana winning.  I think at this point it looks like the US will advance.

you really can't read, can you?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: stevewizzle on June 26, 2014, 01:46:54 pm
i've only got gamecast going right now, but it looks like the germany-US collusion pact remains intact.

Colluding to let the German's win?  Anyway hopefully Ghana can score a couple of goals so we can end this thing. 

please run into moving traffic

Sore loser. If Germany lost I would be much more sporting loser than you. 

not a sore loser. you want germany to win and america not advance. i want america to advance, and for you to run into moving traffic. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 26, 2014, 01:47:26 pm
I love Ronaldo.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 26, 2014, 01:48:51 pm
never cheered a ronaldo goal like that..

i actually had just switched to ghana-portugal game because i thought that is what it would come down to
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 26, 2014, 01:49:20 pm
i've only got gamecast going right now, but it looks like the germany-US collusion pact remains intact.

Colluding to let the German's win?  Anyway hopefully Ghana can score a couple of goals so we can end this thing. 

please run into moving traffic

Sore loser. If Germany lost I would be much more sporting loser than you. 

not a sore loser. you want germany to win and america not advance. i want america to advance, and for you to run into moving traffic. 

POTW

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: stevewizzle on June 26, 2014, 01:50:38 pm
what's the deal with the portugal goalie?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 01:51:49 pm
i've only got gamecast going right now, but it looks like the germany-US collusion pact remains intact.

Colluding to let the German's win?  Anyway hopefully Ghana can score a couple of goals so we can end this thing. 

please run into moving traffic

Sore loser. If Germany lost I would be much more sporting loser than you. 

not a sore loser. you want germany to win and america not advance. i want america to advance, and for you to run into moving traffic. 

POTW



Sore losers.   I like how it end will end up like this:

Portugal:               USA:
Beats Ghana           Beats Ghana
Ties USA                Ties Portugal
Loses to Germany   Loses to Germany

And the US advances and Portugal goes home.  They need a better system.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: stevewizzle on June 26, 2014, 02:04:47 pm
portugal sealed their fate early when scumbag pepe headbutted that dude and got a red card.  and US outplayed them for the majority of their match. the system is fine, if anything it should be fixed so germany isn't in. germany should be out since they only tied ghana who turned out to be terrible since they lost two matches. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 26, 2014, 02:08:13 pm
Well done by the US. All Group H teams are beatable, but my god Michael Bradley needs to play a lot better...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 02:10:22 pm
portugal sealed their fate early when scumbag pepe headbutted that dude and got a red card.  and US outplayed them for the majority of their match. the system is fine, if anything it should be fixed so germany isn't in. germany should be out since they only tied ghana who turned out to be terrible since Ithey lost two matches. 

The system is stupid.  It give the US incentive to lose by one goal instead of trying to win.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 26, 2014, 02:22:47 pm
the system is great... the US was clearly the 2nd best team in the group


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wtf is up with bradley?

there's got to be someone that can do better in that spot.... he doesn't look like what i remember.. he looks weak all around
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 02:33:31 pm
the system is great... the US was clearly the 2nd best team in the group


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wtf is up with bradley?

there's got to be someone that can do better in that spot.... he doesn't look like what i remember.. he looks weak all around

They showed that by having the exact same results as the Portugal?  I think Ghana was much better than US in their match.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 26, 2014, 02:41:10 pm
Apparently we lost but someone lost worse so we have to play more games? WILL THIS NIGHTMARE NEVER END!? I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK! I WANT MY DREAMS BACK!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 02:44:49 pm
Apparently we lost but someone lost worse so we have to play more games? WILL THIS NIGHTMARE NEVER END!? I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK! I WANT MY DREAMS BACK!

Well they will lose to Belgium and then it will be over and you won't have to hear about until more years when it is played in Saudia Arabia or some such place.

I am sure all the Americans watching today's game are so happy the US lost so they could advance. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 26, 2014, 02:47:14 pm
Fuck Germany for not running this thing out more whatever the hell you all didn't do. Fuck soccer.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 02:51:27 pm
Fuck Germany for not running this thing out more whatever the hell you all didn't do. Fuck soccer.

Watching players trying to score in Soccer is like watching your geeky co-workers trying to score in the local pub.  If one of out 22 scores you have to count that as a miracle.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 26, 2014, 03:00:46 pm
He will bite again.

(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/SuarezBirthday.gif)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 03:04:04 pm
He will bite again.

(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/SuarezBirthday.gif)

How about in ties you let the team advance that bites the fewest opposing players or the one that falls the least amount times in agony. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 26, 2014, 03:26:40 pm
what's the deal with the portugal goalie?

Pulled labia.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on June 26, 2014, 04:22:59 pm
The system is stupid. 

Well, you do know stupid pretty well.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 04:27:30 pm
The system is stupid. 

Well, you do know stupid pretty well.

Yeah as I watched a lot of soccer lately.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on June 26, 2014, 04:52:47 pm
The system is stupid. 

Well, you do know stupid pretty well.

Yeah as I watched a lot of soccer lately.
Too bad you couldn't figure out a way for that not to happen.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 04:58:18 pm
Looks like Russia has to score another goal if they want to advance.  Tied with Algeria in Goal Differential but Algeria has scored more goals. 

I don't know why they don't have a playoff game tomorrow for the teams that are tied.  They aren't playing any games anyway.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 06:01:58 pm
So Algeria vs Germany and US vs Belgium. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 26, 2014, 06:11:06 pm
So Algeria vs Germany and US vs Belgium. 

the soccer hater who really is not following the WC chimes in......brilliant!  ;D

anyways, Germany automatic pass to quarters where they likely face France in a tough game....if they make it through that they face most probably Brazil in Brazil although watch out for Colombia......Germany-Brazil would be a killer of a game.... Germany certainly did not look like worldbeaters today....

on the other side of the draw, the easier one,  the US has a decent chance against Belgium and then would play the winner of Argentina/Switzerland and while Argentina is probably favored over the Swiss they haven't exactly set the world on fire in the weakest group in the cup... on the top  half of that side of the draw you have to like the dutch but they are always very hard to measure; they have a real tendency to self destruct and Mexico will play with knives in their mouths.....

unfortunately penalty shootouts will probably very much come into play as pressure intensifies and teams and their players tighten up and take less and less chances...so it all could become more random than people think although generally i've observed that the team that deserves to move forward tends to handle the shootouts better.....a classic example is Germany-Argentina 2006...when Germany came back to tie it it was clear Argentinna was so deflated they would lose the shootout and they did....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: James Ford on June 26, 2014, 06:55:56 pm
The two best beer countries in the world going at it.

US vs Belgium. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 26, 2014, 07:51:12 pm
The two best beer countries in the world going at it.

US vs Belgium. 

That is funny.  Germany for beer and soccer. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2014, 11:22:37 pm
and Mexico will play with knives in their mouths.....

POTW
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 27, 2014, 08:36:07 am
Even a blind (jingoistic, racist, neoconservative nut-job) squirrel finds a nut occasionally...

http://uproxx.com/webculture/2014/06/ann-coulter-on-the-world-cup-growing-interest-in-soccer-a-sign-of-the-nations-moral-decay/
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 27, 2014, 11:24:58 am
I'm going through withdrawals today.  Very entertaining Group Stages.  Even the typically crappy Uruguay v Italy game was saved by a fascinating plot line.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 27, 2014, 11:31:00 am
to help with your DTs:

The World Cup Flopping Rankings
http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-world-rankings-of-flopping-1403660175

The Surez Of The Lambs [OFFICIAL TRAILER]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTkjlWwBubc
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 27, 2014, 12:16:08 pm
to help with your DTs:

The World Cup Flopping Rankings
http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-world-rankings-of-flopping-1403660175

This made me crack up
The Team Most Likely to Grin and Bear it: Bosnia and Herzegovina. These World Cup newbies obviously don't get how this works. They only had two "injuries" in two games for a total of 24 seconds of writhing time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 29, 2014, 10:08:30 am
(http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/mfShzB4xektnGIwwqAvm2A--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2014-06-28/0a9b0de0-ff05-11e3-8267-1186b8f67fa5_451389414.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 29, 2014, 10:17:08 am
Brazil are like cockroaches..you have to crush them to beat them.... when Chile had that shot off the crossbar in the last minute I had a bad feeling.......

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 29, 2014, 08:05:59 pm
The games today were pretty exciting.  Glad the Mexicans got knocked out.  Now they can go back to cutting grass and cleaning bathrooms like they should.  I wanted Greece to win but they deserved to lose by not being able to score a goal in extra time with the extra man.  It takes them to long to start kicking penalty kicks.  They should move the penalty shot spot to make it more interesting.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 29, 2014, 08:13:49 pm
I root for the teams based on which country I would rather visit.  So in the last two days I rooted for Netherlands, Greece, and Chile.  Wouldn't want to visit Columbia or Uruguay so didn't care who won.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 29, 2014, 10:19:40 pm
  Glad the Mexicans got knocked out.  Now they can go back to cutting grass and cleaning bathrooms like they should. 

 :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 29, 2014, 11:24:34 pm
  Glad the Mexicans got knocked out.  Now they can go back to cutting grass and cleaning bathrooms like they should. 

 :o :o :o :o :o

Sorry I forgot picking fruit and doing roadwork.  Anyway that was a joke. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 30, 2014, 07:49:07 am
  Glad the Mexicans got knocked out.  Now they can go back to cutting grass and cleaning bathrooms like they should. 

 :o :o :o :o :o

Sorry I forgot picking fruit and doing roadwork.  Anyway that was a joke. 

Wow you really know how to dig yourself in deeper don't you... And seeing as multiple people reported your initial "joke" to the moderators, people clearly didn't find it funny.  So consider this a warning to watch the 'jokes".
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2014, 09:47:47 am
Yeah...it's a joke.  and your not a total a-hole.
Give me a break.  You hoping to get on duck dynasty walk on?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: James Ford on June 30, 2014, 10:22:16 am
The only Mexican I know is a chef.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Yada on June 30, 2014, 11:12:18 am
(http://i.imgur.com/tDMECB0.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 30, 2014, 11:53:32 am
  Glad the Mexicans got knocked out.  Now they can go back to cutting grass and cleaning bathrooms like they should. 

 :o :o :o :o :o

Sorry I forgot picking fruit and doing roadwork.  Anyway that was a joke. 
We have a regular Andrew Dice Clay up in here.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on June 30, 2014, 12:16:33 pm
  Glad the Mexicans got knocked out.  Now they can go back to cutting grass and cleaning bathrooms like they should. 

 :o :o :o :o :o


Sorry I forgot picking fruit and doing roadwork.  Anyway that was a joke. 
We have a regular Andrew Dice Clay up in here.

with some Larry the Cable Guy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2014, 12:40:22 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/tDMECB0.jpg)
awesome! 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: slappy on June 30, 2014, 02:44:12 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/5c0Zibg.gif)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: stevewizzle on June 30, 2014, 03:15:53 pm
  Glad the Mexicans got knocked out.  Now they can go back to cutting grass and cleaning bathrooms like they should. 

 :o :o :o :o :o

Sorry I forgot picking fruit and doing roadwork.  Anyway that was a joke. 

Wow you really know how to dig yourself in deeper don't you... And seeing as multiple people reported your initial "joke" to the moderators, people clearly didn't find it funny.  So consider this a warning to watch the 'jokes".

there's a report feature?  any way we can get a running total of who's been reported and how many times?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Yada on June 30, 2014, 03:27:29 pm
  Glad the Mexicans got knocked out.  Now they can go back to cutting grass and cleaning bathrooms like they should. 

 :o :o :o :o :o

Sorry I forgot picking fruit and doing roadwork.  Anyway that was a joke. 

Wow you really know how to dig yourself in deeper don't you... And seeing as multiple people reported your initial "joke" to the moderators, people clearly didn't find it funny.  So consider this a warning to watch the 'jokes".

there's a report feature?  any way we can get a running total of who's been reported and how many times?

BrianWallace
James Ford
Atomic
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2014, 04:17:52 pm

there's a report feature? 

Bottom right corner of every thread.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 30, 2014, 04:22:04 pm

there's a report feature? 

Bottom right corner of every thread.....
Every post in every thread, to be more specific.

I'm glad to learn someone other than myself uses the feature, tbh.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 30, 2014, 09:47:14 pm
Ok next time Hutch makes one of his numerous racist posts he gets.reported.

Anyway we.won!  Next victim France.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 30, 2014, 09:54:26 pm
Ok next time Hutch makes one of his numerous racist posts he gets.reported.

Anyway we.won!  Next victim France.

I have never made any racist post Atomic but that is quite an accusation...I assume you don't want me to report it?... and as I recall you're the one who was banned from another board and so it will probably be here soon enough..

anyways i came on here to post this as it struck me as odd:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jurgen-klinsmann-makes-questionable-call-on-algerian-referee-before-belgium-u-s--showdown-213904438.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 30, 2014, 10:04:04 pm
Ok next time Hutch makes one of his numerous racist posts he gets.reported.

Anyway we.won!  Next victim France.

I have never made any racist post Atomic but that is quite an accusation...I assume you don't want me to report it?... and as I recall you're the one who was banned from anmother board and so it will probably be here soon enough..

anyways i came on here to post this as it struck me as odd:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jurgen-klinsmann-makes-questionable-call-on-algerian-referee-before-belgium-u-s--showdown-213904438.html


You are always posting your racist Hispanic.stuff.  How you guys are going to take over the country.  And talk about how venues don't have enough black artist our hispanic artists.  Your Lincoln theater racist posts are ridiculous. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: James Ford on June 30, 2014, 10:11:10 pm
It's actually the Muslims (not the Hispanics) who are looking to take over in America, just like they are taking over in Europe.  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 30, 2014, 10:11:41 pm
I've been on here for a significantly longer time than you, atomic, and over that time I can think of numerous interactions I've had with hutch, a great many I disagreed with him on. That said, I had absolutely no idea he was Hispanic before you started harping on it. He can't possibly be mentioning/alluding-to it with too high of a frequency. And I have no doubt he has not mentioned it as many times in his several years on here as you've mentioned your German ancestry in the last month.

That said, I famously didn't know a female boardie was female for a solid four years once.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 30, 2014, 10:12:27 pm
It's actually the Muslims (not the Hispanics) who are looking to take over in America, just like they are taking over in Europe.  ;)
/REPORTED





jk
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 30, 2014, 10:20:15 pm
Ok next time Hutch makes one of his numerous racist posts he gets.reported.

Anyway we.won!  Next victim France.

I have never made any racist post Atomic but that is quite an accusation...I assume you don't want me to report it?... and as I recall you're the one who was banned from another board and so it will probably be here soon enough..

anyways i came on here to post this as it struck me as odd:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jurgen-klinsmann-makes-questionable-call-on-algerian-referee-before-belgium-u-s--showdown-213904438.html

Ramblings of an insane man.  Only half of Belgium speaks French anyway.  The other half speaks Dutch with a small section of Gemans thrown in for good measure.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: atomic on June 30, 2014, 10:21:44 pm
I've been on here for a significantly longer time than you, atomic, and over that time I can think of numerous interactions I've had with hutch, a great many I disagreed with him on. That said, I had absolutely no idea he was Hispanic before you started harping on it. He can't possibly be mentioning/alluding-to it with too high of a frequency. And I have no doubt he has not mentioned it as many times in his several years on here as you've mentioned your German ancestry in the last month.

That said, I famously didn't know a female boardie was female for a solid four years once.

You must not read his posts. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 30, 2014, 10:32:23 pm
I've written about hispanics but I dont' know that I have ever referred to myself as a "hispanic" for the simple reason that I am white with ancestry from italy/lithuania/poland.... I may have, when Atomic started trolling me, written about how hispanics where growing at a really fast rate in the US ensuring that soccer would become more and more popular... and yes I tend to identify with hispanics somewhat because according to the US census definition I am a white hispanic...It doesn't make sense to me but its the way that it is...

As far as my posts about how venues should try to feature acts representative of the various communities in their town; that they should serve their community... I hardly think that is "racism".... 

I'm done with this ridiculousness but I have to say its kind of a drag Atomic....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2014, 10:52:01 pm
Trollers...gonna troll.   
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on July 01, 2014, 08:01:12 am
I saw an interesting article about how Hispanics see themselves culturally after spending some time in the U.S.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/22/upshot/more-hispanics-declaring-themselves-white.html?_r=0


Anyways, back to ftbol, France v Germany looks promising, although both teams are not playing particularly well, IMO. Great quarterfinals on that side of the bracket.

Pinilla got a tattoo with his post hitting against Brazil, along the words 'one centimeter from glory', don't know what to think about it, really.

https://twitter.com/christianpino/status/483783449355235328/photo/1
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on July 01, 2014, 08:12:24 pm
Man, if only we would've played like that all game, and not just the last 14 minutes. Damn.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 01, 2014, 08:35:30 pm
I'm ticked off.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 02, 2014, 10:14:46 am
yes the core bud lite drinking white men don't watch a lot of soccer here
but 10-15 million people will probably watch World Cup games in the US

that's not nothing


Ok so my numbers were a little low
streaming espn (http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/01/media/world-cup-streaming-record/)
ESPN's live streams have logged 30 million viewing hours during the 2014 World Cup, enough to make the tournament the most-streamed live sporting event in the United States ever.



A record 25 million viewers tuned into watch the US take on Portugal
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 02, 2014, 10:41:08 am
ESPN's live streams have logged 30 million viewing hours during the 2014 World Cup, enough to make the tournament the most-streamed live sporting event in the United States ever.
This is 100% because it's the only "major" sporting event in the last decade to take place during traditional work hours.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 02, 2014, 12:04:22 pm
This is 100% because it's the only "major" sporting event in the last decade to take place during traditional work hours.

[cough]March Madness[/cough]
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 02, 2014, 12:07:15 pm
Man, if only we would've played like that all game, and not just the last 14 minutes. Damn.

We would have loved to, except the Belgian midfield destroyed the American midfield all game.

It wasn't until they went up 2-0 and sat back to protect the lead that the Americans were able to dictate play.  Belgium nearly made the same mistake a number of teams make against the Americans - don't sit on them.  That's how the Americans earned their reputation for grit and determination on the pitch - they simply never give up.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 02, 2014, 12:10:27 pm
I'm ticked off.

There's only one thing to be upset about from yesterday's match - Wondo not poaching that goal (and the win) at the end of regulation.   That's his entire game and why he was selected to the 23 man roster - to score "that" goal.  Completely against the run of play, ugly ball bouncing inside the box, that he has a knack for putting in the back of the net.

Otherwise, this US team accomplished all that it could accomplish in this tournament.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 02, 2014, 12:16:20 pm
This is 100% because it's the only "major" sporting event in the last decade to take place during traditional work hours.

[cough]March Madness[/cough]
I knew someone would try to pass off this false equivalency, I just thought it'd be someone far less skilled in critical thinking than you.

22 combined hours of opening (or "second round" coverage if we're using the official terms) round coverage != a 2 hour soccer match. "The opening round of March Madness" (which is the only part that takes place during work) isn't "a sporting event," it's "32 sporting events," for rating tracking purposes.

Play an NFL playoff game at 1pm on a Tuesday and tell me what the streaming numbers are (in an imaginary -- yet otherwise identical except for this one fact -- world where the NFL allowed free streaming of its games).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 02, 2014, 12:41:38 pm
I knew someone would try to pass off this false equality, I just thought it'd be someone far less skilled in critical thinking than you.

I wasn't comparing the two - and frankly I don't care how many people watch soccer in America vs how many people watch March Madness.

I was pointing out that your simple statement was factually incorrect.  They may not be the same (though the second round of March Madness is on a Sat and Sunday, the Sweet 16 is played on Thursday on Friday), but that March Madness is a Major Tournament that takes place during traditional work hours.  Perhaps a better example for you would have been the America's Cup - or do you not consider that "major" despite the reams of cash thrown at it by retailers and designers you covet, watched world wide but for in America?   

And we get that you consider yourself cultured, but not cultured enough to appreciate soccer, and that you're struggling with this, because, after all, why else would you constantly click a thread that you know to be not worthy of you, unless you really wanted to be a part of it?  But nobody cares about how much you despise something that you secretly want to love in a thread dedicated to appreciating it.

   

 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on July 02, 2014, 12:49:28 pm
Comparing World Cup viewership, whether it be via live stream stats or inhouse ratings, to any other US sport is silly. Of course people in the USA produced higher ratings for the WC - because when the USA plays, it's a big majority of the country cheering on the same team. You may not watch or stream an NFL game or MLB game if you don't care about either team, but the WC is the biggest sport we compete on in an international level, so yeah the entire country is involved, not just a few cities.

Sure there are bandwagon fans for the WC, but it's like that for every championship or tournament in every sport.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on July 02, 2014, 12:51:31 pm
Man, if only we would've played like that all game, and not just the last 14 minutes. Damn.

We would have loved to, except the Belgian midfield destroyed the American midfield all game.

It wasn't until they went up 2-0 and sat back to protect the lead that the Americans were able to dictate play.  Belgium nearly made the same mistake a number of teams make against the Americans - don't sit on them.  That's how the Americans earned their reputation for grit and determination on the pitch - they simply never give up.

They did dominate us in the midfield but I say it's because our defensive line couldn't clear the ball properly. We could stop an attack but it always with a kick upfield that would ultimately land back into the Belgium midfield. Had we been able to hold possession from those clearances, we could've made a couple of counter attacks down the side.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 02, 2014, 12:54:50 pm
I was pointing out that your simple statement was factually incorrect.  They may not be the same (though the second round of March Madness is on a Sat and Sunday, the Sweet 16 is played on Thursday on Friday), but that March Madness is a Major Tournament that takes place during traditional work hours.  Perhaps a better example for you would have been the America's Cup - or do you not consider that "major" despite the reams of cash thrown at it by retailers and designers you covet, watched world wide but for in America?   
The NCAA changed the names so the "round of 64 games" are now called the "second" round (the four play-in games are the first round, technically). I don't believe the Sweet 16 round of games occur during work hours, but I may be wrong.

I absolutely don't consider the America's Cup to be a major sporting event in the sense of 98% of people in this country have no clue its going on. The media coverage for the America's Cup is non-existent. Now, I personally like the America's Cup, but it hardly registers as "an event" for the average American the way March Madness, the Olympics, or an NFL Playoff game would.

And we get that you consider yourself cultured, but not cultured enough to appreciate soccer, and that you're struggling with this, because, after all, why else would you constantly click a thread that you know to be not worthy of you, unless you really wanted to be a part of it?  But nobody cares about how much you despise something that you secretly want to love in a thread dedicated to appreciating it.
You also subscribe to the philosophy that all evangelicals who hate gay marriage are secretly homosexuals too, huh?

I pass judgment on things all the time on here. Things I like, things I don't like. That's my schtick: 95% of my posts are the messageboard equivalent of Joaquin Phoenix giving thumbs ups and downs from the sidelines. Come on, you know that.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 02, 2014, 01:00:34 pm
Comparing World Cup viewership, whether it be via live stream stats or inhouse ratings, to any other US sport is silly. Of course people in the USA produced higher ratings for the WC - because when the USA plays, it's a big majority of the country cheering on the same team. You may not watch or stream an NFL game or MLB game if you don't care about either team, but the WC is the biggest sport we compete on in an international level, so yeah the entire country is involved, not just a few cities.
Also, there isn't free streaming of NFL or MLB properties, generally.

Sure there are bandwagon fans for the WC, but it's like that for every championship or tournament in every sport.
You're understating it a bit. Sure, the Super Bowl has bandwagon fans, but the Super Bowl's ridiculous TV # is in line with the fact that the NFL's regular season numbers are, many weeks, the highest viewed programs on TV.

The multiplier between MLS/USMNT-qualifying games ratings and the World Cup ratings is ridiculously more than any of the big four sports. People watch world cup soccer the same reason we watch the Olympics: its not because we love Team Handball, its jingoism and nationalism run amok. And its the same reason we all tuned in for the Kerrigan/Harding Olympic finals: not because we had a growing love of figure skating as a society but because it was a much-hyped event.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: stevewizzle on July 02, 2014, 02:58:13 pm
it's a beautiful game, played throughout planet earth on different terrain, different styles, where race, gender, and size seem not to matter.  i'm sorry that others on the board can't find the simple enjoyment in that.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 02, 2014, 03:08:51 pm
it's a beautiful game, played throughout planet earth on different terrain, different styles, where race, gender, and size seem not to matter.  i'm sorry that others on the board can't find the simple enjoyment in that.

plus, it has super hot sweaty guys that take their shirts off.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 02, 2014, 03:17:50 pm
it's a beautiful game, played throughout planet earth on different terrain, different styles, where race, gender, and size seem not to matter.  i'm sorry that others on the board can't find the simple enjoyment in that.

plus, it has super hot sweaty guys that take their shirts off.
You forgot to log into the walkonby account.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: stevewizzle on July 02, 2014, 03:29:10 pm
it's a beautiful game, played throughout planet earth on different terrain, different styles, where race, gender, and size seem not to matter.  i'm sorry that others on the board can't find the simple enjoyment in that.

plus, it has super hot sweaty guys that take their shirts off.
why they have shirts to begin with is beyond me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 02, 2014, 03:55:52 pm
it's a beautiful game, played throughout planet earth on different terrain, different styles, where race, gender, and size seem not to matter.  i'm sorry that others on the board can't find the simple enjoyment in that.

plus, it has super hot sweaty guys that take their shirts off.
why they have shirts to begin with is beyond me.
Now, I say this with a staunch, unblemished record of heterosexuality, but if soccer was played in the nude like the original Olympics, I'd watch a solid half of it before the novelty wore off for me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 02, 2014, 04:01:59 pm
the point isn't that soccer is as popular as the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL...of course not...

the point is that its getting more and more popular due to a confluence of different factors (ESPN hyping it, Americans having more access to quality football on cable, demographic factors, etc.)..

But at the end of the day those of us who enjoy soccer and relish the World Cup aren't thinking that every American must join us or something!......its fine...

I remember watching the 1986 World Cup and you could only watch 95% of the games on the hispanic channel and it got hardly any coverage in the US media (although Maradona did miraculously make the cover of SI).... most Americans didn't even know it was happening...and back then you couldn't even watch soccer in the US (I'm talking things like Champions League, Premier League, etc)... and back then you didn't have a US soccer league...and back then the US hadn't qualified for a World Cup in DECADES!!!!!!!!

Point is soccer has come a long way...its just a gradual progression.... there isn't going to be this one magical point where soccer becomes popular with everyone.... not even if the US were to win the World Cup would this happen...

and thats fine...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 02, 2014, 04:38:20 pm
it's a beautiful game, played throughout planet earth on different terrain, different styles, where race, gender, and size seem not to matter.  i'm sorry that others on the board can't find the simple enjoyment in that.

plus, it has super hot sweaty guys that take their shirts off.
why they have shirts to begin with is beyond me.

well, to be fair, at the beginning of a game they aren't sweaty yet* so why bother, really.

* unless the game is played in Manaus.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 02, 2014, 04:41:28 pm
i like the sentiment here, but seems like a bit much, no?

USA Won the Hearts and Minds of Planet Football at the World Cup This Summer
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2116939-usa-won-the-hearts-and-mind-of-planet-football-at-the-world-cup-this-summer

WARNING: the following is satire.

Americans 'must be kept away from football'
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/americans-must-be-kept-away-from-football-2014070288187
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 02, 2014, 04:46:04 pm
I can tell you people in Argentina noticed the USA team....Fabian Johnson was picked to the top 11 team after the group stage by a sportswriter for Argentina's most widely read newspaper...

the US team is now without a doubt consistently amongst the 16 best in the World... .. and we're only going to get better..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 02, 2014, 04:51:41 pm
new rankings (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2114368-world-cup-2014-team-power-rankings-after-round-of-16-matches/page/9)

Wow, not so kind treatment of Argentina.
They rank them 10th, even though there are only 8 teams left
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 02, 2014, 05:02:45 pm
new rankings (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2114368-world-cup-2014-team-power-rankings-after-round-of-16-matches/page/9)

Wow, not so kind treatment of Argentina.
They rank them 10th, even though there are only 8 teams left

don't get me started

What do you want me to say? I'm on record saying Argentina has no chance to do anything this World Cup....the coach turned out to be an imbecile and on top of that we don't have enough quality  players....

but one always dreams and anything can happen.... ;D ;D ;D ;D
at least Messi showed up this time...

although that ranking is a bit bogus I must say...

the reality is no team has really shown all that much so its unclear what will happen with Brazil, as badly as they have played, remaining the favorite...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 02, 2014, 05:32:33 pm
new rankings (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2114368-world-cup-2014-team-power-rankings-after-round-of-16-matches/page/9)

Wow, not so kind treatment of Argentina.
They rank them 10th, even though there are only 8 teams left

Who have they played?

Bosnia (won 2-1 with an own goal)
Iran (1-0)
Nigeria (3-2)
Switzerland (1-0 in extra time)

The two teams ahead of them that are eliminated:

Mexico (tied Brazil, lost to Holland in auspicious circumstances) and Chile (lost to Holland with a weakened side and missed beating Bazil by a couple inches, only to lose in PK's) both deserve to be ranked ahead of them.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 02, 2014, 05:35:51 pm
i like the sentiment here, but seems like a bit much, no?

I read the same articles in 1994, albeit not on the internet, and in 2002...

And I think progress has been made, but yes, it's a bit much.  It was interesting to hear that US had the largest following in Brazil outside of the hosts.

BTW - the satire was great.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 02, 2014, 06:17:26 pm
new rankings (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2114368-world-cup-2014-team-power-rankings-after-round-of-16-matches/page/9)

Wow, not so kind treatment of Argentina.
They rank them 10th, even though there are only 8 teams left

Who have they played?

Bosnia (won 2-1 with an own goal)
Iran (1-0)
Nigeria (3-2)
Switzerland (1-0 in extra time)

The two teams ahead of them that are eliminated:

Mexico (tied Brazil, lost to Holland in auspicious circumstances) and Chile (lost to Holland with a weakened side and missed beating Bazil by a couple inches, only to lose in PK's) both deserve to be ranked ahead of them.

I find this line of reasoning ludicrous.... nobody knows how other teams would have done with Bosnia, Iran or Nigeria..we do know that Costa Rica, ranked 4, had a tough time disposing of Nigeria (went to PKs) so maybe Nigeria was not that terrible? :) Just like, regardless of previous rankings and thoughts Costa Rica came out first in a group including Italy, England and Uruguay... you have to play the games and see what happens.. you can't hypothesize based on what you "think" makes sense..

To me the ultimate decider is how many games you win and whether you're still in it... .you dont' have to sparkle or play attractive soccer..you just have to win against whoever you have to play...

Mexico??? Pfffffffff.. .they always play tough but have a loser mentality..... Argentina maybe too..the difference is Mexico always loses at the Round of 16 and we lose in the quarters..

I am the last person to argue Argentina has a good team for this WC but we are in the quarters and that makes us one of the best 8..in addition we have the best player in the world.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 03, 2014, 02:07:06 pm
(http://lizwa.com/uploads/vs.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: shemptiness on July 03, 2014, 04:06:04 pm
?They were set up in a way that was opposite from what they?ve been the past couple years, which is opening up, passing, attacking ? trying to do that. And the team?s been successful that way. Why they decided to switch that in the World Cup, none of us will know. From a playing standpoint, I think the guys will probably be disappointed in the way things went.?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/soccer-insider/wp/2014/07/03/landon-donovan-takes-a-shot-at-jurgen-klinsmann-i-dont-think-we-were-set-up-to-succeed-at-world-cup/?tid=pm_pop
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 03, 2014, 05:12:22 pm
?They were set up in a way that was opposite from what they?ve been the past couple years, which is opening up, passing, attacking ? trying to do that. And the team?s been successful that way. Why they decided to switch that in the World Cup, none of us will know. From a playing standpoint, I think the guys will probably be disappointed in the way things went.?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/soccer-insider/wp/2014/07/03/landon-donovan-takes-a-shot-at-jurgen-klinsmann-i-dont-think-we-were-set-up-to-succeed-at-world-cup/?tid=pm_pop


I read the whole thing earlier today..

First of all, on ESPN right after the game Donovan did not say any of this...

However, I completely agree with him....

Jurgen is so full of shit... all that talk about the attacking soccer?? where was that? The only times we attacked IN EVERY SINGLE GAME was when we went down (except for the early Dempsey goal)

He completely gave up the midfield against Belgium and we saw how well it worked...he took out Beckerman the only guy that could give the team any sort of pause in the midfield and hold on to the ball... that was completely nuts.

And I'm sorry, some of those guys on the team there is no way they were more helpful than Donovan..

Its funny because in any other soccer loving country the loss would be analyzed frontwards and backwards and here its all "Juergen is so great and everything he did worked and isn't it great we have him another four years... we lost but we have our pride"

Against Belgium.. they're killing us for 90 minutes ... we have no midfield..does he make any change to improve things? NO. I mean who didn't see Belgium scoring..how many saves did he expect Howard to make? 34? Meanwhile one of the world's best coaches Van Gaal against Mexico changed his tactical approach three times until it worked.

I have no doubt Loew was the strategist for Germany in 2006 and that Juergen just doesn't really understand that facet of the game.. for him its all about the players chasing the ball 90 minutes and being fully fit....Bradley ran 22 miles ..hey he's great!... well it doesn't quite work that way.... sometimes you let the ball do the running for you...

of course after the game Juergen says we were unlucky and Howard "did his job".... great stuff.


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 03, 2014, 06:50:23 pm
...he took out Beckerman

This still puzzles me.  And I don't think the substitution for Fabian affected it.  I hope to hear more about that decision soon.

Meanwhile one of the world's best coaches Van Gaal against Mexico changed his tactical approach three times until it worked.

And I just wanted to correct that.

 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 04, 2014, 10:57:47 pm
fuckin' spain ref..i am so pissed off..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on July 05, 2014, 12:56:21 am
Neymar (Brazil) is out for the rest of the tournament thanks to that knee-hit to the back today against Colombia. That looked pretty rough indeed.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 05, 2014, 12:09:23 pm
fuckin' spain ref..i am so pissed off..

He's really the cause of Neymar's injury.  A few caution's, especially off the ball fouls, and Zuniga's tackle doesn't happen.

What should have been a game about the talents of James and Neymar, saw them lying on the pitch for most of the match unprotected.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 05, 2014, 01:53:51 pm
Congrats Hutch!  Now you deserve to be in the top 10.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 05, 2014, 02:50:37 pm
Congrats Hutch!  Now you deserve to be in the top 10.

Thanks. Priceless win... I dont want to overstate how big for us....at the same time keep our eyes on the prize because once you make it to the semis you have a golden opportunity..losing Di Maria is a huge huge loss... I doubt he'll be back but we'll see..

when I was a little kid we won the 1978 Cup at home (I was there)...then we won 86 with Maradona... then in 90 with pure luck, Maradona on one leg, and cynical football we made it to the finals.... At that time I thought "Good lord, we really are the best...we can't lose!".....goddamn has it been a long time since we made it to the semis..i think of all the great players that have come and gone that couldn't get it done.....  and luck had a lot to do with it...this team got the most favorable draw imaginable....but I was pleased with the performance today and the team played a bit better today...... Of course I would favor the Netherlands in a potential matchup but you never know..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: shemptiness on July 08, 2014, 04:31:09 pm
Invoke the slaughter rule already.  Holy crap.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 08, 2014, 04:34:57 pm
Invoke the slaughter rule already.  Holy crap.

I believe the word you're looking for is....

Blitzkreig
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Yada on July 08, 2014, 04:53:12 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/hZgWKHF.gif)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 08, 2014, 06:08:51 pm
best.worldcup.ever.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 08, 2014, 06:44:22 pm
I' m getting a shirt with the Brazilian crying lady on it!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on July 08, 2014, 10:44:06 pm
Invoke the slaughter rule already.  Holy crap.

I believe the word you're looking for is....

Blitzkreig

Schadenfreude
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: shemptiness on July 09, 2014, 09:50:10 am
Russian Orthodox Priest Says Football Is Gay ? Because of Its Shoes


Priest Alexander Shumsky seems to have taken particular exception to the brightly colored footwear on display in Brazil, writing in his column on Christian website Russian People's Line that players who wear green, yellow, pink or blue shoes helped promote the "gay rainbow."

"Wearing pink or blue shoes, [the players] might as well wear women's panties or a bra," Shumsky wrote, adding that he was also offended by the "unthinkable" hairstyles of some of the players in Brazil.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russian-orthodox-priest-says-football-is-gay--because-of-its-shoes/503090.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 09, 2014, 12:12:35 pm
the papers in brazil ....

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Zi_110dO--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/pi2yriyahhfzbi7alwa5.jpg)

I think this would make a better t-shirt...love the tear streaked face paint
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--PZ8bfDe_--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/jpvfujokbqlaxznrxqek.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 09, 2014, 12:20:24 pm
I liked this one:

"Shame"

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsGJb1WCcAEaexC.jpg:large)

And this one:

"Here lies the dream of a sixth championship in 2014. It died of shame."

(http://i.embed.ly/1/display/resize?key=1e6a1a1efdb011df84894040444cdc60&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FnBoUxzN.jpg&width=490)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 09, 2014, 07:45:04 pm
woooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 09, 2014, 09:04:30 pm
did anyone, read the article, where brazil is blaming mick jagger?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 09, 2014, 09:20:41 pm
did anyone, read the article, where brazil is blaming mick jagger?
yeah i read it..he does seem to be a bit of a jinx going back to 1998 Argentina-England quaterfnal..>I feeel bad for the guy cause he just wants to watch good soccer!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 09, 2014, 09:27:52 pm
Hutch, I want your shitty kickball team to beat atomics shitty kickball team, only so it will stick in atomics craw. But I know his exuberance over winning will only be matched by his "oh I hate soccer" comments if Germany loses, because he's not a true so cer hater, he's a charlatan, and you idiotic so cer losers don't call him to the carpet over it.

SN: Is there anyway both your teams die on the field scoreless, and America refuses to allow that Teddy Goalsevelt sack-of-shot back into America?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 09, 2014, 09:49:16 pm
Hutch, I want your shitty kickball team to beat atomics shitty kickball team, only so it will stick in atomics craw. But I know his exuberance over winning will only be matched by his "oh I hate soccer" comments if Germany loses, because he's not a true so cer hater, he's a charlatan, and you idiotic so cer losers don't call him to the carpet over it.

SN: Is there anyway both your teams die on the field scoreless, and America refuses to allow that Teddy Goalsevelt sack-of-shot back into America?

I do believe Atomic is banned....at the very least he has been out for a while since I reported him for a second time (for calling me a racist).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 09, 2014, 09:52:07 pm
Hutch, I want your shitty kickball team to beat atomics shitty kickball team, only so it will stick in atomics craw. But I know his exuberance over winning will only be matched by his "oh I hate soccer" comments if Germany loses, because he's not a true so cer hater, he's a charlatan, and you idiotic so cer losers don't call him to the carpet over it.

SN: Is there anyway both your teams die on the field scoreless, and America refuses to allow that Teddy Goalsevelt sack-of-shot back into America?

I do believe Atomic is banned....at the very least he has been out for a while since I reported him for a second time (for calling me a racist).
I believe fairly strongly he's not banned, but am open to evidence to the contrary.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 09, 2014, 09:53:13 pm
Hutch, I want your shitty kickball team to beat atomics shitty kickball team, only so it will stick in atomics craw. But I know his exuberance over winning will only be matched by his "oh I hate soccer" comments if Germany loses, because he's not a true so cer hater, he's a charlatan, and you idiotic so cer losers don't call him to the carpet over it.

SN: Is there anyway both your teams die on the field scoreless, and America refuses to allow that Teddy Goalsevelt sack-of-shot back into America?

I do believe Atomic is banned....at the very least he has been out for a while since I reported him for a second time (for calling me a racist).
I believe fairly strongly he's not banned, but am open to evidence to the contrary.

he is NOT banned..he was just given a talkin' to and is taking a timeout.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 09, 2014, 11:18:41 pm
#ohno,you,didnt
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on July 10, 2014, 12:03:30 am
still can't get over that slaughter from Tuesday.

go Argentina
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 10, 2014, 12:03:27 pm
I believe he was just issued a yellow card.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2014, 12:22:52 pm
but wasn't that his second?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 10, 2014, 12:27:52 pm
but wasn't that his second?

Exactly why I suspect he's out for a little while, but likely to return at some point.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 14, 2014, 01:24:57 pm
la puta madre que lo pario
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 14, 2014, 01:37:59 pm
I would not expect any other reaction....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 14, 2014, 09:00:43 pm
can't believe huguain was that shocking

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: betao on July 14, 2014, 11:43:46 pm
gorgeous goal, pretty boring final for a cup

minus the first 15 minutes
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 15, 2014, 09:07:27 am
can't believe huguain was that shocking



me neither...all our strikers were completely out of form...huge bummer....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on September 14, 2014, 01:49:00 pm
what a joy watching Di Maria.. he is first class....Van Gaal after the game said he set up the three ..and well made the other one


Unfortunately I will always be left to wonder what would have happened had he not got injured early against Belgium...oh well...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2014, 03:08:46 pm
He brings pace to United that they've been lacking since Giggs got old and CR7 left for Madrid.  I loved him when I saw him in the World Cup in 2010 and am glad to have him now.

I did read the story about Real sending the Argies's a letter requesting he sit the Final out.  Classless.

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on September 22, 2014, 01:33:22 pm
"Qatar will not host World Cup: FIFA official"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/22/us-soccer-qatar-fifa-zwanziger-idUSKCN0HH1C820140922

they're passing it off as "one board member's personal opinion"... but the tide is rising.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on September 22, 2014, 02:03:44 pm
thank you
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 14, 2014, 04:42:17 pm
Serbia - Albania match abandoned because of Drone flying Flag (http://www.espnfc.us/european-championship-qualifying/story/2088456/qualifier-in-serbia-abandoned-because-of-drone-carrying-albanian-flag)

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 14, 2014, 08:52:30 pm
Ireland 1 - Germany 1  ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on November 07, 2014, 04:33:43 pm
North Koreans working as ?state-sponsored slaves? in Qatar
Defectors claim Pyongyang regime pockets 90% or more of earnings made by migrants working on construction sites in Qatar, where preparations are under way for 2022 World Cup

Thousands of migrant labourers from North Korea are toiling for years on construction sites in Qatar for virtually no pay ? including on the vast new metropolis that is the centrepiece of the World Cup ? in what may amount to ?state-sponsored slavery?.

continued: http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/nov/07/north-koreans-working-state-sponsored-slaves-qatar
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 08, 2014, 05:53:39 pm
I've seen a lot of Manchester United matches, but I've never seen one where they were so undeserving of the three points they gained tonight.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 29, 2014, 10:14:31 pm
in footy news...
ronaldo-statue-penis-huge-erection (http://www.outsports.com/2014/12/22/7435691/cristiano-ronaldo-statue-penis-huge-erection)

(https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/rv0EGxi_Fp4N8-Dj0HICGzlEN7w=/800x0/filters:no_upscale%28%29/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2871776/ronaldostat.0.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on February 19, 2015, 12:23:14 pm
^ what a dick.

in other dick-related news: world cup in november and december!  perfect!!!

- http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2015/02/18/fifa-reportedly-moves-2022-world-cup-in-qatar-to-november-december/
- http://screamer.deadspin.com/the-qatar-world-cup-will-be-held-in-the-winter-1686591704
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2015, 12:25:45 pm
^wow...so it's a done deal sounds like
WC in Nov/Dec
just seems like a sacrilege

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on February 27, 2015, 12:41:03 pm
i think this constitutes a leak in the dam:

Another FIFA about-face: 2021 Confederations Cup not in Qatar
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/27/sport/confederations-cup-not-qatar/index.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 10, 2015, 12:38:11 pm
Finally a penalty shoot out  (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2j4oor)worth watching
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 24, 2015, 04:29:39 pm
apparently hutch is stalking Messi at this very moment  ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 24, 2015, 05:29:18 pm
apparently hutch is stalking Messi at this very moment  ;D

I'm in love with Harry Kane.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on March 24, 2015, 05:35:46 pm
yup.. here at the Ritz Carlton waiting for his arrival......I expect to be ushered in to his suite any minute after he arrives...

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2015, 04:29:47 pm
is that hutch on the steps back there?

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/23/16/26ED5FD600000578-3007969-image-a-5_1427129454133.jpg)

or is that him hiding in the bushes?

(http://afa.org.ar/images/stories/Agosto_2010/00.s2.JPG)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on April 13, 2015, 07:21:59 am
Who saw the derby yesterday? I don't see Pelle coaching City next season after that debacle. The team looked tired and completely out of ideas. There was no verticality beyond the 20th minute and let's not even talk about Mangala's defending.

On the other side, United played with style, which was lacking for a long while. I don't like them very much but they won in great fashion, Looking forward to their Chelsea clash.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2015, 04:18:10 pm
what a score by Suarez...good lord!
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Post by: vansmack on April 15, 2015, 09:55:00 pm
Who saw the derby yesterday? I don't see Pelle coaching City next season after that debacle. The team looked tired and completely out of ideas. There was no verticality beyond the 20th minute and let's not even talk about Mangala's defending.

On the other side, United played with style, which was lacking for a long while. I don't like them very much but they won in great fashion, Looking forward to their Chelsea clash.

Sorry I missed this - I was too drunk celebrating the Derby.  I agree with everything you said.  Except the not liking them part.
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Post by: vansmack on April 16, 2015, 02:25:11 pm
Wenger is apparently upset that his FA Cup Match is being broadcast at the same time as Chelsea v Man Utd:

"I am a bit surprised that a [Premier League] game of the same stature is played at the same time. There is a bit of conflict there that is difficult to understand,"

Um, you're facing Reading.  Same stature?

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Post by: vansmack on May 27, 2015, 12:16:22 am
@NYTSports: EXCLUSIVE: Top FIFA officials indicted, face extradition to U.S. on corruption charges. http://t.co/gS8A0tmPGa http://t.co/My0LGooLiL
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 27, 2015, 08:56:22 am
This seems pretty open and shut. Anyone who has made money selling the idea that soccer is an exciting sport is clearly perpetuating fraud at a massive level.

#FuckSoccer #DefundTheUSMNT
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Post by: vansmack on May 27, 2015, 11:52:19 am
@JeffreyToobin: RT BREAKING: Swiss Police confirm that, when arrested, all seven FIFA officials threw themselves on the ground and pretended to be injured.
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 27, 2015, 12:59:07 pm
@JeffreyToobin: RT BREAKING: Swiss Police confirm that, when arrested, all seven FIFA officials threw themselves on the ground and pretended to be injured.
POTW!
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Post by: vansmack on May 27, 2015, 01:19:38 pm
POTW!

My other favorite tweets were (paraphrasing):

If the US pulls this off, the rest of the World will forgive the US for the whole "soccer" instead of "football" thing.

And the guy who said:

Those poor bastards probably had suites at the finest Swiss hotel with three hookers a day lined up.  America ruins everything!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 27, 2015, 06:17:34 pm


My other favorite tweets were (paraphrasing):

If the US pulls this off, the rest of the World will forgive the US for the whole "soccer" instead of "football" thing.


so true...

former Argentine FIFA VP Grondona is lucky he passed away recently.. I'm pretty sure he would have gone down too....

I love FIFA's reaction "WE ARE THE VICTIMS! WE ARE THE DAMAGED PARTY!"

This came to mind immediately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 02, 2015, 01:00:40 pm
Blatter resigns.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 02, 2015, 01:05:00 pm
beat me to it: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/02/football/fifa-sepp-blatter-presidency-successor-election/index.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2015, 01:25:22 pm
You're welcome,  world.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 03, 2015, 02:28:43 pm
for jules....



@Bill Maher

Sorry all my lovely new European friends, but you have to admit that as bad as the FIFA scandal is, its still more interesting than the sport
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 03, 2015, 02:35:23 pm
for jules....



@Bill Maher

Sorry all my lovely new European friends, but you have to admit that as bad as the FIFA scandal is, its still more interesting than the sport

I am a huge Bill fan. Went to the taping of his comedy special and Real Time back to back in DC last YEAR.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 27, 2015, 12:42:23 pm
It's good to be back....

GROUP A Paris(FRA), Real Madrid(ESP), Shakhtar Donetsk(UKR), Malm(SWE)
GROUP B PSV(NED), Man. United(ENG), CSKA Moskva(RUS), Wolfsburg(GER)
GROUP C Benfica(POR), Atltico(ESP), Galatasaray(TUR) Astana(KAZ)
GROUP D Juventus(ITA), Man. City(ENG), Sevilla(ESP), Mnchengladbach(GER)
GROUP E Barcelona(ESP), Leverkusen(GER), Roma(ITA), BATE(BLR)
GROUP F Bayern(GER), Arsenal(ENG), Olympiacos(GRE) Dinamo Zagreb(CRO)
GROUP G Chelsea(ENG), Porto(POR), Dynamo Kyiv(UKR), M. Tel-Aviv(ISR)
GROUP H Zenit(RUS), Valencia(ESP), Lyon(FRA), Gent(BEL)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on September 23, 2015, 11:29:28 am
so about that lewandowski (http://screamer.deadspin.com/robert-lewandowski-loses-his-motherfucking-mind-scores-1732402012) kid...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on September 25, 2015, 10:51:22 am
Swiss Open Criminal Proceedings Against FIFA?s Blatter
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/26/sports/soccer/sepp-blatter-fifa-switzerland-criminal-proceedings.html
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on November 11, 2015, 09:19:41 pm
if you get Verizon FIOS now beIN is included so you can see South American qualifying (Brazil-Argentina tomorrow) games and La Liga etc... automatically without having to get the additional sports package
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on December 26, 2015, 10:45:11 am
Though Im a City fan, I'm very concerned about United's current form. True, I don't want them to win in general, but also I don't want to see them playing without passion and composure. It's certainly a sad view. For the sake of future derbies I hope they soon find the pride that comes from wearing that jersey.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 26, 2015, 11:50:51 am
can't believe van gaal is having this much trouble...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 26, 2015, 01:55:53 pm
I can't believe he's still employed.  I thought last week was his last week for sure.  I didn't even bother waking for the Stoke match this morning.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 27, 2015, 10:31:57 pm


How quickly they turn on you...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 28, 2015, 03:29:35 pm
Well, I didn't fall asleep today, so that's an improvement.

How quickly they turn on you...

Quickly?  They haven't won in 8 matches, and have won just 3 in their last 15 matches.  They've scored 3 goals in the last 6 EPL matches, earning just one point from the last 15 available.  They haven't been this bad in 25 years.

But truthfully, I had had enough when they couldn't score a goal at home against PSV in the game that would have put them through in the Champions League.
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 04, 2016, 10:46:41 am
ok...not really football

but these stretcher fails (https://youtu.be/X9ySPH2NOxU) made me LOL
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 02, 2016, 06:59:23 pm
What a story over in England.

My favorite tweet so far:


If @LCFC celebrate avoiding relegation with a Thai orgy, how the fuck are they going to celebrate winning the title a year later?
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Post by: shemptiness on May 02, 2016, 09:53:06 pm
What a story over in England.

My favorite tweet so far:


If @LCFC celebrate avoiding relegation with a Thai orgy, how the fuck are they going to celebrate winning the title a year later?

Totally forgot who was involved in that.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: K8teebug on May 03, 2016, 07:29:41 am
As a Spurs fan, it was a heartbreaker yesterday! BUT, gotta be happy for the Leicester fans...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 03, 2016, 11:41:10 am
Second best--

the Brits are asleep. it's safe to talk about how baffling the pronunciation of Leicester is

As a Spurs fan, it was a heartbreaker yesterday! BUT, gotta be happy for the Leicester fans...


Don't worry.  Every other team finished behind Leicester too.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 03, 2016, 01:57:49 pm
How Leicester City staged the greatest upset in sporting history (http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2016/05/economist-explains-0?cid1=cust/ddnew/n/n/n/2016053n/owned/n/n/nwl/n/n/NA/email&etear=dailydispatch)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 27, 2016, 03:47:53 pm
(http://e1.365dm.com/16/06/768x432/chile-copa-america-trophy_3491031.jpg?20160627050807)

Chile's super-predators are now South America's most dangerous team

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/jun/27/chile-copa-america-final-argentina-lionel-messi

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 27, 2016, 04:21:42 pm
whatever....

Argentina and Chile have played 4 times in the past 12 months.. Argentina has won twice.. and there have been two 0-0 draws which were then decided by PKs and Chile won

But definitely Argentina is a team in crisis... losing final after final at important tournaments.. its a downer for sure... combined with the football association being in dissaray things are not good

I think Messi said it best after the game.. something like "I try and try but its just not happening...."

Argentina will be back.. maybe its time for the older players that have been unable to perform on the big stage to step down.. not just Messi.. Aguero (pains me), Higuain, Mascherano (he has performed but he is slowing down), Di Maria (too many injuries)....

time to try out guys like Lamela, Dybala maybe even that Argentine striker that plays in Italy that I can't remember his name...

Argentina doesn't want to go to the World Cup and lose yet again with the same players/setup

I don't blame Messi though... its a collective problem.... I thought Martino would make it happen but no.. he did far more with far less when he coached Paraguay

at this point there is a collective loser mentality with Argentina... and the more you lose the big games the harder it gets..

Definitely a sad day.. I'm far sadder for Messi than Argentina...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 27, 2016, 04:22:19 pm
Icardi
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 27, 2016, 04:35:23 pm
oh and congrats lagas!
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Post by: sweetcell on June 28, 2016, 09:55:13 am
so the english are now averaging one brexit a week.

edit: some funny reactions right here (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/28/england-iceland-internet-reacts-humiliating-euro-2016-brexit)... like "S&P just downgraded England football to LOL" ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 28, 2016, 10:35:19 am
it is pretty unbelievable.. Iceland has 330,000 people!
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Post by: lagas on June 28, 2016, 08:18:33 pm
oh and congrats lagas!

Thanks hutch, Argentina had everything to win it, especially after that clown of a ref ejected Daz, but when he compensated it with Rojo's ejection, I thought we had a chance. And as the game went on we started playing with more heart than legs. Finally, during penalties, Pizzi chose players who had no history shooting for Chile, so Chiquito had no way to know where they were going to kick it. That was brilliant.

The whole Messi retiring from the national team thing is difficult to watch, and after reading Argentina newspapers I realize this has reached national level crisis. He's still 29, and though is true losing so many finals would send anyone to the shrink, I think it should be Martino the one who should leave (and Higuan for that matter, goddamnit how can he miss those chances!)

Anyways, best of luck next time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 28, 2016, 08:48:43 pm
oh and congrats lagas!

Thanks hutch, Argentina had everything to win it, especially after that clown of a ref ejected Daz, but when he compensated it with Rojo's ejection, I thought we had a chance. And as the game went on we started playing with more heart than legs. Finally, during penalties, Pizzi chose players who had no history shooting for Chile, so Chiquito had no way to know where they were going to kick it. That was brilliant.

The whole Messi retiring from the national team thing is difficult to watch, and after reading Argentina newspapers I realize this has reached national level crisis. He's still 29, and though is true losing so many finals would send anyone to the shrink, I think it should be Martino the one who should leave (and Higuan for that matter, goddamnit how can he miss those chances!)

Anyways, best of luck next time.

thanks..

I knew in the 70th minute we would lose.... anyways... I've actually grown a lot because unlike most Argentines I think 3 major finals in 3 years , even if we lost, is something...

It is indeed a national crisis! Nothing more important than "la seleccion"!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on June 29, 2016, 06:46:23 am
If you want to understand what is going on in Argentina, this column might help you:

"It was 10 years ago that Messi made his World Cup debut. He was hailed as the great hope for a country that had already won two World Cups, a country in which football is central to notions of national identity. ?Football has resonance everywhere,? [Ezequiel Fernndez] Moores says. 'But more here in Argentina, because it really is the one area in which we are a recognized force in the world.'"

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/jun/29/lionel-messi-retirement-argentina-football-team
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 29, 2016, 05:13:09 pm
it is pretty unbelievable.. Iceland has 330,000 people!

Leicester has 332,000.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 29, 2016, 05:20:21 pm
it is pretty unbelievable.. Iceland has 330,000 people!

Leicester has 332,000.

none of the Leicester players are from Leicester.  100% of the Iceland players are from Iceland.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 01, 2016, 12:24:49 pm
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13494762_1131000866922203_858412285774432918_n.jpg?oh=0d2be9da309f4035bbdcfa3f22759724&oe=5808CA19)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 01, 2016, 12:29:27 pm
buh ha ha ha

that is good.

i needed a laugh.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 05, 2016, 10:29:12 am
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13532938_1048753301845181_5682005852007408476_n.jpg?oh=db303f482c0b112b063fb3e0430043cd&oe=57F4ABAF)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 05, 2016, 10:34:25 am
Seth will be at Eurocup final.


BOOM!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 06, 2016, 04:09:56 pm
god I hate Ronaldo
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 07, 2016, 09:31:10 am
god I hate Ronaldo

hate him all you want, but that was a pretty goal...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 07, 2016, 09:39:11 am
god I hate Ronaldo

hate him all you want, but that was a pretty goal...


perfect form.. he is very good no doubt..


it was funny after the game he talked about his humility over the past 13 years... ;D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 07, 2016, 04:58:42 pm
Ooo la la!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 07, 2016, 06:27:14 pm
Ooo la la!

If that many Germans would have stuck their arms in the air before this tournament, we may have avoided two world wars.*

*Both arms required for this to work
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 10, 2016, 03:26:36 pm
even I didn't want to see that for Ronaldo...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 11, 2016, 05:19:07 pm
i want those two and a half hours back.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 11, 2016, 05:23:34 pm
i want those two and a half hours back.

Come on now -  the first 20 minutes weren't awful....

I was sitting next to interns from Apple who were wasted, so at least they were entertaining, but yeah, Portugal played for the PK's and France frustratingly took their foot off the throttle.  How on earth Gignac and not Martial replaces Giroud was beyond me....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 11, 2016, 05:39:56 pm
i want those two and a half hours back.


last four major tournament finals 0-0 after regulation... two went to PKs... need changes in rules but never going to happen...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 11, 2016, 05:50:05 pm
last four major tournament finals 0-0 after regulation... two went to PKs... need changes in rules but never going to happen...

No, Spain won the 2012 Euro 4-0 over Italy.  But the other 3, yes.

But again no.  The 2014 World Cup was an Extra Time goal, the 2016 Euro was an extra time goal, and the 2010 World Cup was an Extra Time Goal.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 11, 2016, 05:53:10 pm
last four major tournament finals 0-0 after regulation... two went to PKs... need changes in rules but never going to happen...

No, Spain won the 2012 Euro 4-0 over Italy.  But the other 3, yes.

I know you don't but I consider the Copa America major.


2014 WC Argentina- Germany  0-0 at end of reg Germany scores miracle goal to break my heart and wins 1-0
2015 Copa America Chile- Argentina 0-0    Chile wins on PK
2016 Copa America Centenario Chile - ARgentina 0-0 Chile wins on PK
2016 Eurocup  Portugal-France 0-0 at end of regulation Portugal wins 1-0


they need to make some rule changes but they won't because its the world's most popular game....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 11, 2016, 05:55:51 pm
I'm fine if so long as the Copa's are the only ones that consistently end in PKs.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 11, 2016, 05:57:11 pm
i want those two and a half hours back.

this is the way I feel about too many of these games now.... I'm no longer really in love with the world's beautiful game....  there is a need to adapt the game to changing circumstances...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 11, 2016, 06:01:33 pm
I'm fine if so long as the Copa's are the only ones that consistently end in PKs.

94 WC Final PKs, 06 WC Final PKs

10 WC 1-0 in overtime, 14 WC 1-0 in overtime

not good

This Eurocup was a worst tournament than the Copa America IMO... 

Pretty much all major tournaments are now mediocre.......

I mean look at Portugal.. a very mediocre team...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 11, 2016, 06:15:34 pm
I know what this is really about....

(http://cdn.guardian.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/portugal-3.jpg)

vs.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/24/10/359D24CE00000578-3658008-The_Argentina_squad_are_excited_to_take_on_Chile_in_the_2016_Cop-a-3_1466759332387.jpg)

There's something missing in the second photo.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 11, 2016, 06:20:17 pm
some ideas that I at least think should be given some thought.. :

1. the offside rule needs to be improved.. it simply cannot be that legal goals be ruled offside... also allow the striker to be a few feet ahead of the last defender
2. bigger goal
3. consider using 9 or 10 players instead of 11...
4. consider allowing more substitutions
5. cut down on the physical nature of the game.. its killing it...
6. make the penalty area way bigger
7. two refs on the field
8. things like shirt tugging in the box should result in automatic expulsion

the game does not allow the more talented and skilled teams to exploit this skill... opponents simply play physical and take advantage of rules to equalize things and cancel out the skill...



Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 11, 2016, 06:22:44 pm
I know what this is really about....

(http://cdn.guardian.ng/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/portugal-3.jpg)

vs.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/24/10/359D24CE00000578-3658008-The_Argentina_squad_are_excited_to_take_on_Chile_in_the_2016_Cop-a-3_1466759332387.jpg)

There's something missing in the second photo.


nonsense..... this is not about sour grapes...  Argentina with ups and downs does fine..doesn't win tournaments but I like the way they play.. they represent a style I identify with.. we're just not the best team in the world..... I've mellowed out and I don't obsess about losses....  but I can't deny that a lot of these games on the national level blow.. and are just painful to watch...



Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 11, 2016, 06:51:13 pm
This is Argentine soccer....I can live with it...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COe5Y29-BZY
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 20, 2016, 05:15:18 pm
Transfers: Man Utd Agree World-Record ?120M Fee to Sign Juventus Midfielder Paul Pogba, According to L'Equipe

It only cost United ?120M (a bargain at the current Sterling rate) to make up for their mistake, but at least they're big enough to admit they were wrong.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 20, 2016, 05:17:17 pm
Transfers: Man Utd Agree World-Record ?120M Fee to Sign Juventus Midfielder Paul Pogba, According to L'Equipe

It only cost United ?120M (a bargain at the current Sterling rate) to make up for their mistake, but at least they're big enough to admit they were wrong.

What was their mistake?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 20, 2016, 05:34:57 pm
What was their mistake?

He was once in the United system, and they let him leave on a free transfer.  Probably Fergie's biggest mistake, and he says that it was because he and Pogba's agent never got a long, though Pogba said Fergie never liked him either.  Interestingly, Pogba's agent also represents  Mkhitaryan and Zlatan.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/paul-pogba-fergies-biggest-mistake-26-years
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 20, 2016, 05:39:43 pm
What was their mistake?

He was once in the United system, and they let him leave on a free transfer.  Probably Fergie's biggest mistake, and he says that it was because he and Pogba's agent never got a long, though Pogba said Fergie never liked him either.  Interestingly, Pogba's agent also represents  Mkhitaryan and Zlatan.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/paul-pogba-fergies-biggest-mistake-26-years


oh ok...got it...


Pogba is definitely really skilled...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 30, 2016, 03:49:30 pm
I'm so hard up for college football I'm watching a soccer match taking place at Michigan Stadium. I usually trash this sport that no one scores but forty minutes in a team with a girls name is losing to a team whose captain has hilariously large hair 3-0.

This has been Julian reviewing soccer.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 12, 2016, 03:55:02 pm
Well, I gues the US Women's soccer team REALLY IS just as good as the men's team!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on September 15, 2016, 05:13:24 pm
nonsense..... this is not about sour grapes...  Argentina with ups and downs does fine..doesn't win tournaments but I like the way they play.. they represent a style I identify with.. we're just not the best team in the world.....

you were saying? (http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/index.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 15, 2016, 05:18:30 pm
I'm so hard up for college football I'm watching a soccer match taking place at Michigan Stadium. I usually trash this sport that no one scores but forty minutes in a team with a girls name is losing to a team whose captain has hilariously large hair 3-0.

This has been Julian reviewing soccer.
This is priceless. I'm a treasure. I love when I come across old posts I've forgotten writing and get to read my own wit "fresh." I'm possibly my favorite writer.

This has been Julian reviewing Julian reviewing soccer.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on September 15, 2016, 09:50:03 pm
nonsense..... this is not about sour grapes...  Argentina with ups and downs does fine..doesn't win tournaments but I like the way they play.. they represent a style I identify with.. we're just not the best team in the world.....

you were saying? (http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/index.html)

as a maniacal Argentina national soccer team supporter it pains me to say this but those rankings mean nothing... all that matters is who wins the World Cup..... Argentina has been number one many years but no hardware to show... I'm reminded of a stinging quote by the head of the German Soccer Federation before the 2014 World Cup Final "We don't mind Argentina winning the friendlies against us. We win the games that matter."

But like I said.. I like the way we play and our players... I just wish so very very much we could put it together at the WC....

We've had three coaches the last three years... there is something missing with this team.... I can't quite figure it out....we continue to have the same problem...

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on September 27, 2016, 02:57:35 pm
Allardyce out after ONE game as England manager  :o :o :o
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 27, 2016, 03:29:37 pm
Allardyce out after ONE game as England manager  :o :o :o

Such an idiot to fall for such an easy rouse.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 28, 2016, 06:27:05 am
who in their right minds thought fat sam managing england was a good idea in the first place
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 28, 2016, 09:17:45 am
who in their right minds thought fat sam managing england was a good idea in the first place
Oh, wait, the dude is fat? I'm intrigued to hear of his downfall now. What's the story, morning glory?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 27, 2018, 10:03:22 am
(http://cnnwire.images.worldnow.com/images/16633066_G.jpg)
dude...Really... countries that want to host the cup should just let the US have it, because we "always support them"

I'm surprised he didn't slag Mexico

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 27, 2018, 12:28:22 pm
He must have some stadium contracts on the line.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Yada on April 27, 2018, 01:14:19 pm
Is this the lolCaps thread?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 27, 2018, 01:17:11 pm
Is this the lolCaps thread?
No, that's the North of the Border Edition.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on April 27, 2018, 04:47:46 pm
^ potw
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 23, 2018, 09:49:45 pm
Kinda soccer news https://www.washingtonian.com/2018/05/23/new-dc-law-will-let-bars-serve-booze-until-4-am-for-the-world-cup-and-all-star-game/

The All-Star Game and World Cup Emergency Amendment Act of 2018 (greatest bill name ever?)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 23, 2018, 10:11:58 pm
Drinking at a bar at 7 am




I drink a lot but that seems early
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 25, 2018, 02:19:48 pm
oh I know you have been anxiously waiting on this one....'Live it Up!' Official World Cup Anthem by Will Smith & Nicky Jam Is Out (https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/live-it-up-official-world-cup-anthem-by-will-smith-and-nicky-jam-is-out-listen/ar-AAxMW8d?ocid=spartanntp&ffid=gz)
seems like this is the kiss of death...took New order 2 decades to recover
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on May 25, 2018, 02:26:14 pm
Funny reading about that new order abomination in both Barney and hooky autobiographies...they are both quite proud of it!! On that they agree
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 14, 2018, 08:44:46 am
you'd think this thread would be getting a little action...

hey the World cup is coming to USA 2026!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 14, 2018, 08:51:10 am
hey the World cup is coming to USA 2026!
Sounds like a great time to travel out of the country.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 14, 2018, 09:43:06 am
Amazing excitement In the US about World Cup.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 14, 2018, 11:59:59 am
Amazing excitement In the US about World Cup.....
crazy the amount of people running around with lozhkas and really getting amped up for the games
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 14, 2018, 12:21:27 pm
Amazing excitement In the US about World Cup.....
crazy the amount of people running around with lozhkas and really getting amped up for the games
Are you serious? Compared to the last World Cup (that the US was in), my social media is dead. I see exactly one post from someone commenting on it.

Again: no one in this country cares about soccer. Trumpian Nationalism and liberal european soccer-fan-cosplaying is what gets people watching this. Facts only.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 14, 2018, 12:37:40 pm
I'm not serious....although I am serious about lozhkas
don't fuck with the spoons of Victory!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 14, 2018, 01:13:04 pm
5-0

Some gorgeous goals
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 14, 2018, 01:44:48 pm
thanks to some AWFUL defending.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 14, 2018, 02:10:39 pm
True


I still enjoyed them....the 4th was a great goal

Why does everything go Putins way...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 14, 2018, 06:36:21 pm
I see exactly one post from someone commenting on it.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 14, 2018, 10:17:28 pm
I am excited by Uruguay
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ggw on June 15, 2018, 11:31:13 am
Rhett's wife has never heard of the World Cup. She thinks Neymar is a new Middle Eastern restaurant in Glover Park.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2018, 02:24:36 pm
Roooonaldo!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 15, 2018, 02:28:19 pm
Roooonaldo!

Dive.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2018, 02:55:09 pm
Roooonaldo!

Dive.
although he put another one in the back of the net
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 15, 2018, 03:00:53 pm
More like the goalie but credit where credit is due....you have to shoot at goal to score even if due to goalie choke

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 15, 2018, 03:11:02 pm
Roooonaldo!

Dive.
although he put another one in the back of the net

He's definitely playing inspired, and this is a great match, but even with VAR I can't believe that was still a pen.

And it was nice of De Gea to gift him that second goal in exchange for returning to United. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2018, 03:27:54 pm
whoa spain takes the lead!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 15, 2018, 03:53:24 pm
Well that was a no doubter
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2018, 04:00:13 pm
that last goal by ronaldo was pretty f'n awesome
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 16, 2018, 10:56:57 am
Seriously Messi
they literally gave you the ball
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 18, 2018, 04:01:45 pm
Kane saves England from embarrassment in overage time

Big name teams have really been showing poorly
Argentina, Germany and Brazil...yikes you guys are supposed to dominate the weaker teams
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 18, 2018, 05:03:43 pm
Well....teams cancel each other out and goals are rarer than hens teeth


Anyways Argentinas team is the worst since 1970 the last time they did not qualify...

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 19, 2018, 03:15:42 pm
CONMEBOL teams are taking a beating
Uruguay is only winner out of 5 entrants  in the first round
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 19, 2018, 03:48:05 pm
Yup I noticed....even Concacaf blows...basically Latin American teams are taking a beating
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 19, 2018, 03:49:43 pm
Russia first team to qualify for knockout phase ...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 19, 2018, 04:40:07 pm
Russia first team to qualify for knockout phase ...
Why does everything go Putins way...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 19, 2018, 04:45:27 pm
Maybe now people will finally stop selling Russia short.  They have been by far the best team against Arab competition in the tournament.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 19, 2018, 05:02:47 pm
Maybe now people will finally stop selling Russia short. 

because so far they haven't faced a real threat?  KSA is KSA, and egypt has been forgettable ever since they qualified.  russia took care of two teams that they should have been able to take care of.  no surprises here.

They have been by far the best team against Arab competition in the tournament.

not sure what you're getting at here... other than intra-arab competition (iran-morocco), the only other team to face an arab competitor has been england (who, like every other recent WC, have come in way overhyped).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 19, 2018, 05:17:21 pm
I think it was sarcasm

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 20, 2018, 09:27:04 am
Shame about morroco and that self inflicted loss to Iran
as they are playing well against Portugal

Although they really can't seem to capitalize on all the corners and penalty kicks

That was one serious dive by ronaldo in the 83 min, glad he didn't get a goal out of that

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 20, 2018, 11:41:17 am
Stop day drinking.  It ruins your sarcasm meter....

other than intra-arab competition (iran-morocco),

Iran is not an Arab nation.  They're Persian...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 20, 2018, 12:42:32 pm
Stop day drinking. 

come meet my workmates, then see if you'd stick with that prescription...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 20, 2018, 12:57:47 pm
That was one serious dive by ronaldo in the 83 min, glad he didn't get a goal out of that
wow this one was even worse
https://deadspin.com/here-it-is-the-world-cups-greatest-and-most-shameless-1826985686
this Portugal team is so talented, not sure why they play such dirty ball
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 20, 2018, 05:50:56 pm
Burger King Sorry for Food Offer to Women Who Get Impregnated by World Cup Stars (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2782096-burger-king-sorry-for-food-offer-to-women-who-get-impregnated-by-world-cup-stars)

i wonder who's the marketing genius that came up with this campaign...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 21, 2018, 09:48:59 am
So Chrome offered me the option to translate my Telemundo feed
I'm amazed how well it does, especaily in the Flash frame?

but I like what it translated Match time into

(https://i.imgur.com/tMhYm1M.png)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 21, 2018, 09:52:35 am
Think I found out why the Germans lost to mexico
Joachim Low issues 'sex ban' to Germany at World Cup 2018  (https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/joachim-low-issues-sex-ban-12616213)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 21, 2018, 02:34:45 pm
Think I found out why the Germans lost to mexico
Joachim Low issues 'sex ban' to Germany at World Cup 2018  (https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/joachim-low-issues-sex-ban-12616213)

Combine that with Chicharito's sex party for the Mexican team and you're on to something...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 21, 2018, 02:36:30 pm
hey man...a free day is a free day
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 21, 2018, 03:52:09 pm
OUCH!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 21, 2018, 03:55:03 pm
can someone check up on hutch?  we probably should worry about him right about now...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 21, 2018, 03:59:15 pm
I think he's been put on Suicide watch after that match
That second goal from Modric was sick
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 21, 2018, 04:10:16 pm
can someone check up on hutch?  we probably should worry about him right about now...

I think he's been put on Suicide watch after that match

Oh hai guys, I may have misjudged soccer too quickly.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 21, 2018, 06:36:19 pm
It's a little early for that.  Well, at least until we see the result of Nigeria v Iceland....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 21, 2018, 06:48:27 pm
It's a little early for that. 

true.  and to be fair, they lost to an excellent team. 

now had they been beaten by the US then sure, time for depression...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 22, 2018, 12:35:41 pm
See.  Now a victory over Nigeria and they're back in the knockout stage (pending goal differential).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 22, 2018, 03:57:34 pm
The Swiss put a damper on my Serbia/Croatia final - the first World Cup final to ever be suspended.

But that was a helluva match.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 22, 2018, 07:38:16 pm


Anyways Argentinas team is the worst since 1970 the last time they did not qualify...

Sad
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 23, 2018, 03:43:33 pm
Goodness Germany...are you going to get knocked out in the first round!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 23, 2018, 03:56:09 pm
Goodness Germany...are you going to get knocked out in the first round!!
Wow!!! with 15 seconds left
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 25, 2018, 12:08:32 am
Wow!!! with 15 seconds left

Football is a simple game. Twenty-two men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans always win.

Gary Lineker
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 25, 2018, 10:43:51 am
Lineker updated that quote on Twitter for that game



Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 25, 2018, 11:20:21 am
Own Goal is the player of the 2018 World Cup. (https://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2018/6/25/17489378/world-cup-2018-own-goals-ranked)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 25, 2018, 11:27:39 am
The cup of own goals, set pieces and goalie bloopers with the occasional fantastic goal thrown in
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2018, 12:27:39 pm
Peru got screwed because France couldn't beat the Danes

also, what's with fans groping female reporters!
#DeixaElaTrabalhar


Getty images issues an apology too
Earlier, we published a piece, World Cup 2018: The Sexiest Fans, that did not meet our editorial standards. We regret the error and have removed the piece. There are many interesting stories to tell about the World Cup and we acknowledge this was not one of them.

Sucks as they had a great shot of me they were getting ready to post before this kerfuffle ensued
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2018, 12:40:27 pm
so this is the nail ....

Achilles the cat predicts Super Eagles will defeat Argentina (https://www.naija.ng/1177246-achilles-cat-predicts-super-eagles-defeat-argentina.html)
(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/secondary/Jorge-Sampaoli-1396057.jpg?r=1530030268564)
Honestly...should they even take the field after a prediction like that!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2018, 02:17:50 pm
screw that cat....nice goal Messi!

although...he was offsides
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 26, 2018, 03:03:00 pm
although...he was offsides

No, he was onside.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2018, 03:48:21 pm
Sweet goal by Rojo!  with a killer assist by Mercado

Ok maybe I don't know my rules that well...but I watched that messi goal again
He looked offside to me...for just a second or two before the ball passes them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXeQ2ePyaI4

apparently I'm alone in my assessment
this rundown of the goal is great
https://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2018/6/26/17507010/lionel-messi-goal-argentina-nigeria

He wasnt close to offside, and it didnt matter.
Not sure what he means here...wouldn't it matter if he was offside?

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2018, 03:55:40 pm
jez...almost lost it there in the last second
Nice win Argentina!

the shots of maradona were a little creepy tho
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 26, 2018, 03:58:49 pm
Ok maybe I don't know my rules that well...but I watched that messi goal again
He looked offside to me...for just a second or two before the ball passes them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXeQ2ePyaI4

look where messi is when the ball was passed to him - he was onside. 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 26, 2018, 04:00:46 pm
Ok maybe I don't know my rules that well...but I watched that messi goal again
He looked offside to me...for just a second or two before the ball passes them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXeQ2ePyaI4

It's the moment the ball is passed to him, and three guys are between him and goal at that point.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2018, 04:13:29 pm
Ok maybe I don't know my rules that well...but I watched that messi goal again
He looked offside to me...for just a second or two before the ball passes them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXeQ2ePyaI4

It's the moment the ball is passed to him, and three guys are between him and goal at that point.
Ok..so that is the part of the rule I was shaky on...and that makes sense
I just look at the ariel shot and he is clearly in front of the last defender...but it's when the ball is already in the air
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2018, 04:20:55 pm
keeping it classy(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/J-pkQmh1ccwd_Rs73yUTIX7dLis=/0x0:1200x675/1320x0/filters:focal(0x0:1200x675)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11604081/maradona.jpg)

They meet France next...if they beat them...they get the winner of Portugal - Uruguay
not looking good to make it to the Semi's...but I'm still rooting for them
 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 26, 2018, 04:39:35 pm
Maradona did too many drugs....best to try and ignore him
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 26, 2018, 05:48:12 pm
Maradona hospitalized
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 27, 2018, 11:54:16 am
Lineker updated that quote on Twitter for that game
looks like he's going to need to update that quote again
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 27, 2018, 12:00:40 pm
But for Marcos Rojo, all the Nazi's would have been out before the knockout stage....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on June 27, 2018, 12:24:52 pm
This German team just was not lethal in the box like it usually is....kudos to South Korea for playing honorably

Quite a Cup so far....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 27, 2018, 01:20:10 pm
watching the highlights from Mex v Swe
that third 'own goal' that lvarez made

why is that not a hand ball?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 27, 2018, 02:22:46 pm
brazil is playing sloppy.  constantly having their pockets picked.  low cohesion. 

watching the highlights from Mex v Swe
that third 'own goal' that lvarez made

why is that not a hand ball?

because he hand-balled it into the net.  changing the call to a penalty kick would have benefitted the mexicans, which wouldn't make sense... they were the ones in the wrong.

But for Marcos Rojo, all the Nazi's would have been out before the knockout stage....
 
lolololololol...

we're both going to hell.
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 28, 2018, 11:31:24 am
can someone tell me what is going on with this shot posted on the Pol Jap match?

(https://ssl.gstatic.com/onebox/media/sports/photos/reuters/tag:reuters.com,2018:newsml_RC1AD734F720:1758434597_768x432.jpg)
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Post by: vansmack on June 28, 2018, 11:41:16 am
can someone tell me what is going on with this shot posted on the Pol Jap match?

They water the pitch right before the game and at halftime to slow the ball down (more accurate passing).  That Pole is warming up around the sprinklers....
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Post by: vansmack on June 28, 2018, 11:47:19 am
we're both going to hell.

Japan hasn't been this boldly arrogant since Dec 7, 1941, and we all know how that turned out...
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Post by: ggw on June 28, 2018, 11:58:54 am
https://wtop.com/dc-united/2018/06/dc-united-nets-english-legend-wayne-rooney-could-play-in-audi-field-opener/
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 28, 2018, 12:20:32 pm
https://wtop.com/dc-united/2018/06/dc-united-nets-english-legend-wayne-rooney-could-play-in-audi-field-opener/

so what doesn't look right in this statement
Rooney comes to the United States.....and has earned championship trophies in the Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Champions league, UEFA Europa League and FIFA Club World Cup.
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 28, 2018, 02:12:09 pm
damn that was a rocket by Januzaj Tielemans at 10 min
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Post by: vansmack on June 28, 2018, 03:06:02 pm
so what doesn't look right in this statement
Rooney comes to the United States.....and has earned championship trophies in the Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA Champions league, UEFA Europa League and FIFA Club World Cup.

I know.  United doesn't like to talk about that year they had to play in the Europe League.  But yes, they did win it!

Premier League: 200607, 200708, 200809, 201011, 201213
FA Cup: 201516
League Cup: 200506, 200910, 201617
UEFA Champions League: 200708
UEFA Europa League: 201617
FIFA Club World Cup: 2008
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Post by: vansmack on June 28, 2018, 03:10:57 pm
damn that was a rocket by Januzaj Tielemans at 50 min

FTFY

Not sure what he was thinking though.  Beat Japan and you get Brazil-Mexico winner.  Draw this match and you face a James-less Colombia and then Sweden-Switzerland winner to the Semi's.

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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 28, 2018, 03:51:39 pm
FIFA Club World Cup: 2008
ack...misread that to be world cup...not the CLUB world cup
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Post by: vansmack on June 28, 2018, 04:23:39 pm
Not sure what he was thinking though.  Beat Japan and you get Brazil-Mexico winner.  Draw this match and you face a James-less Colombia and then Sweden-Switzerland winner to the Semi's.

Bracket 1:

Uruguay v Portugal
France v Argentina

Brazil v Mexico
Belgium v Japan

Bracket 2:
 
Spain v Russia
Croatia v Denmark

Sweden v Switzerland
England v Colombia

Nice fucking work, Januzaj....
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Post by: hutch on June 28, 2018, 04:30:34 pm
Half the draw is way stacked for sure but at end of day whoever wins four finals wins the cup and playing japan is easier than Colombia...the easiest round of 16 foe
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 28, 2018, 04:39:02 pm
damn that was a rocket by Januzaj Tielemans at 50 min
FTFY
to be clear...this was the shot I was referring to was Tielemans
https://www.foxsports.com/soccer/video/1266200643656

but I see what you are trying to do

No Kane or Lukaku...I know they were both guaranteed the next round
but that makes for a boring game
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Post by: hutch on June 28, 2018, 04:43:00 pm
Grant Wahl of SI picked 13 of 16 and in the right brackets...amazing


He did not get Sweden (had Germany)and had Iceland getting second over Argentina and Senegal over Japan...

Pretty damn good especially considering Japan earned spot over Senegal due to less yellow cards
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 28, 2018, 04:51:33 pm
Grant Wahl of SI picked 13 of 16 and in the right brackets...amazing
He did not get Sweden (had Germany)and had Iceland getting second over Argentina and Senegal over Japan...Pretty damn good especially considering Japan earned spot over Senegal due to less yellow cards
(https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn-s3.si.com%2Fs3fs-public%2F2018%2F05%2F30%2Fgrant-wc-picks.jpg&w=800&q=85)
that is some good picking...wonder how that stands up to Achilles the Cat
just not feeling it with Spain...just barely beat Iran and tied Morocco?!
I predict that Croatia will show them the door
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Post by: hutch on June 28, 2018, 04:53:44 pm
That cat is dead to me....picking Nigeria to beat Argentina


Achilles only picks games played in his hometown St Petersburg and picked every game right til Argentina beat Nigeria
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2018, 04:34:14 pm
slow day here on the board

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36287646_1236721399797597_5692194065186029568_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_eui2=AeEUVoilxV8Dj8kbuARnNXhJ8RtWFjYTeA3GrwfKre8Vx9qX18ZrDeoVmjl77DydIPKZ2m_aHhUjxSv_gnj0ljPmCadRkrxg27OFOePWtMk3vA&oh=6654e6ce0cbcb5f5db0d563f6262d436&oe=5BAF9C2C)
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2018, 12:05:18 pm
Wow....some great goals and horrendous defense in the second half....
Almost tied it up at the end

That goal by pravard was insane

Guess it's time to gas up the plane to buenus aries
(https://goo.gl/images/EeSXIJ)
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Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2018, 01:15:51 pm
Most entertaining match so far....Mbappe, have a day, Kid!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2018, 04:04:05 pm
Grant Wahl of SI picked 13 of 16 and in the right brackets...amazing
He did not get Sweden (had Germany)and had Iceland getting second over Argentina and Senegal over Japan...Pretty damn good especially considering Japan earned spot over Senegal due to less yellow cards
(https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn-s3.si.com%2Fs3fs-public%2F2018%2F05%2F30%2Fgrant-wc-picks.jpg&w=800&q=85)
that is some good picking...
His semi picks stand
Not sure about urg beating France
But lots of upsets in this cup
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Post by: shemptiness on July 01, 2018, 12:43:57 pm
That save was Holtby-esque
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Post by: hutch on July 02, 2018, 12:00:31 pm
I enjoyed that...
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Post by: vansmack on July 02, 2018, 02:54:21 pm
His semi picks stand

It's all unravelling for him now....
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Post by: vansmack on July 02, 2018, 04:25:34 pm
I greatly underestimated how entertaining Japan v Belgium would be.  Right up there with France v Argentina.
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Post by: sweetcell on July 02, 2018, 04:53:12 pm
Half the draw is way stacked for sure but at end of day whoever wins four finals wins the cup and playing japan is easier than Colombia...the easiest round of 16 foe

care to revise that? ;D

I greatly underestimated how entertaining Japan v Belgium would be.  Right up there with France v Argentina.

amazing game... literally went down to the last second.
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Post by: hutch on July 02, 2018, 04:58:58 pm
No revision....Japan were entertaining but incredibly naive....

Good World Cup so far....
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 02, 2018, 06:08:30 pm
Good World Cup so far....
I have to agree...so few predictable results
The underdogs are taking over
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Post by: shemptiness on July 03, 2018, 10:01:27 am
I Am Not Superstitious, But Japan Definitely Lost Because Its Psychic Octopus With A Perfect Record Was Killed, Sold, And Eaten (https://deadspin.com/i-am-not-superstitious-but-japan-definitely-lost-becau-1827311483)
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Post by: hutch on July 03, 2018, 04:43:14 pm
Nail biter
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 03, 2018, 04:48:08 pm
Man these pk's suck
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Post by: hutch on July 03, 2018, 04:53:31 pm
Good for England
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Post by: hutch on July 03, 2018, 05:20:39 pm
Broke my heart to see Pkerman suffering the pks so much..... He is a very good man and of course Argentina lost pk shootout to Germany in 2006 Cup when he was its coach...you got to feel for him...that fourth Colombian pk hit the woodwork and bounced out...so close

But England played better...in fact I am surprised at how badly Colombia played
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Post by: vansmack on July 03, 2018, 05:56:27 pm
It's coming home!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 03, 2018, 06:18:47 pm
If you grow into a tournament anything can happen....

The premier league has been the best club league for so long now (most fun to watch) and England having invented the game and spread it around the world maybe they have suffered enough...its hard to go more than one game at a time and Sweden wont be easy but its doable
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 03, 2018, 06:27:48 pm
Just so Im clear, for the small percentage of the MAGA set who pretend to care about soccer, with the US out, are they mostly defaulting to England or Russia as their team of choice?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 03, 2018, 07:23:48 pm
Just so Im clear, for the small percentage of the MAGA set who pretend to care about soccer, with the US out, are they mostly defaulting to England or Russia as their team of choice?

For those few, I would venture to guess they would root for the (non-Muslim) authoritarian regimes.  That pretty much leaves Russia in the final 8.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 03, 2018, 07:43:52 pm
I get where youre comjng from but for those who want the country to go back to its roots: England is right there.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 05, 2018, 12:38:52 pm
I get where youre comjng from but for those who want the country to go back to its roots: England is right there.

Nationalised Health System would trump all of that.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 06, 2018, 04:36:25 pm
South American teams have never really fared well in Europe.
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Post by: hutch on July 06, 2018, 05:19:44 pm
I believe that is so with the notable exception of Brazil in 1958....and I guess Argentina miraculously making it to final in 1990 and Brazil in 1998 final


A poor World Cup for South American teams here....striking

I think its hard to generalize or find one explanation and of course until 2014 a European team had not won in South America....but I have my theories about what we are seeing
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Post by: shemptiness on July 06, 2018, 05:27:14 pm
What France and Belgiums World Cup success says about European immigration (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/07/06/what-france-and-belgiums-world-cup-success-says-about-european-immigration/?utm_term=.c3c5858f4940)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 06, 2018, 05:30:19 pm
What France and Belgiums World Cup success says about European immigration (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/07/06/what-france-and-belgiums-world-cup-success-says-about-european-immigration/?utm_term=.c3c5858f4940)


That is one of the theories and feeds into another
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Post by: shemptiness on July 06, 2018, 05:34:13 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgwG8NPX4AEaMsS.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 07, 2018, 12:20:38 pm
England to Eurocup semis!
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Post by: hutch on July 07, 2018, 04:59:40 pm
Croatia joins England, France and Belgium in 2018 Eurocup semis
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 07, 2018, 09:12:41 pm
https://deadspin.com/terrible-news-england-defeat-sweden-to-advance-to-worl-1827418763
in a truly unfortunate turn of events, Englands World Cup run can no longer go down as anything other than a tremendous success after the terrible lads triumphed over Sweden Saturday

The truth is England dominated play most of the way, and earned this victory, leading to nightmare scenes like this one, of British people enjoying themselves
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Post by: vansmack on July 07, 2018, 09:48:58 pm
The Ikea video (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/england-win-world-cup-match-sweden-2018-uk-fans-celebrate-in-streets-roadblocks-a8436541.html%3famp) is reason #1 why England deserves to win the cup.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2018, 09:54:33 am
why did the Lightning Seeds create such a horrible song
the memes are funny though

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/2018/07/09/best-coming-home-memes-20-best-englands-world-cup-2018-campaign/
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Post by: vansmack on July 10, 2018, 12:00:44 pm
why did the Lightning Seeds create such a horrible song

You stop it right there.  It's so good there are two versions....
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2018, 12:13:01 pm
It's so good there are two versions....
Lame and Lamer
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Post by: vansmack on July 10, 2018, 12:26:54 pm
I see, it's going to be like that....

Three Lions (Original) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJqimlFcJsM)
Three Lions '98 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyoy2_7FegI)
Vindaloo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaBdajHOsSM)
All Together Now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRgtzZ-mOQo)
World In Motion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re4aDJL3heA)
We're on the Ball (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoMhkYlS33c)
England Belongs to Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU8P0Ufwpl8)
Come On England (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKSbkFNGT0o)

I'm nearly on week three of shuffling that playlist and there's nothing you can do to stop me!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2018, 02:55:41 pm
in DC/MLS news....new Audi Field opening this weekend
https://www.blackandredunited.com/stadium-news/2018/7/10/17552008/dc-united-audi-field-ribbon-cutting-erick-thohir-jason-levien-wayne-rooney
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Post by: sweetcell on July 10, 2018, 03:40:46 pm
Hazard was totally fouled by Giroud... ref biased?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2018, 03:47:44 pm
Hazard was totally fouled by Giroud... ref biased?
well he just gave a yellow to Kant for fouling Hazard...not sure that theory holds
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 10, 2018, 04:19:44 pm
tv coverage cut to Macron right after Umtiti scored (https://www.foxsports.com/soccer/video/1273827907753), and all I could think was "shouldn't you be in Brussels?!?"  then again, considering who's waiting there for him, i'd be hiding out too...

Hazard was totally fouled by Giroud... ref biased?
well he just gave a yellow to Kant for fouling Hazard...not sure that theory holds

even a biased ref can only be blind to so much...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 10, 2018, 05:58:26 pm
Hazard was totally fouled by Giroud... ref biased?

I don't think he was biased, I think he just missed the call. 

France's defense was just too much for Belgium.  Sad for Belgium's golden kids, but this young French team has the potential to be great for 3 world cups...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 10, 2018, 06:56:57 pm
I dont think they are that good although they may well win cup

I dont get country leaders attending any game other than final unless its the dictator of the host...such a loser mentality

8 players of Congolese descent amongst both squads...notable
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Post by: ggw on July 11, 2018, 09:02:26 am
French Defender to Wed Pamela Anderson? (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/pamela-anderson-arrives-at-world-cup-to-support-boyfriend-adil-rami/ar-AAzRZFg?ocid=spartandhp)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 11, 2018, 02:07:10 pm
sweet goal by tripper!
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 11, 2018, 02:13:05 pm
Goddamn it, I told someone at the start of this thing I would watch the final if it was England v France because it was the most Julian American final possible out of the 32 teams. This is a nightmare.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 11, 2018, 02:18:13 pm
Next World Cup they might as well have each team take five free kicks, 5 corners and 5 penalties...whoever scores more wins...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 11, 2018, 02:20:29 pm
Goddamn it, I told someone at the start of this thing I would watch the final if it was England v France because it was the most Julian American final possible out of the 32 teams. This is a nightmare.
looking like you are going to need to reserve a bar stool at Gus' Bar & Grill Saturday morning
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 11, 2018, 02:32:02 pm
Goddamn it, I told someone at the start of this thing I would watch the final if it was England v France because it was the most Julian American final possible out of the 32 teams. This is a nightmare.
looking like you are going to need to reserve a bar stool at Gus' Bar & Grill Saturday morning
I would probably have to camp out to get into Penny Lane (Richmond's Liverpool/England bar). I should go as a GWAR-man.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 11, 2018, 02:33:25 pm
By the way, the ASCII characters in your name fuck up the UBB code. Hard to "quote" you as is.
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Post by: hutch on July 11, 2018, 02:38:21 pm
Good to see - per usual- Mick Jagger at the game
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 11, 2018, 02:51:57 pm
Hard to "quote"
I like that tag line

Lovren is a thug

man those British defenders are FAST
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Post by: sweetcell on July 11, 2018, 03:46:49 pm
did you guys know that france awaits the winner in sunday's final?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 11, 2018, 03:59:43 pm
still can't believe the croats didn't score at 77'

two brits almost took a boot straight to the noggin going low for headers
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Post by: hutch on July 11, 2018, 04:24:33 pm
Ohhh a tense ten minutes await
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 11, 2018, 04:30:36 pm
I really don't want any more penalty kick shootouts
I predict a lot of yellow/red cards

wow that clearly should have been an England corner kick
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 11, 2018, 04:42:40 pm
well at least I don't need to hear that awful song again

do we need to get someone to check on smakie....


Saturday's game is just insult to injury for both teams...not sure why they have a 3rd place game
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 11, 2018, 08:14:55 pm
Not so fun World Cup Fact: the two teams that trashed Argentina will meet in the final.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 11, 2018, 08:30:01 pm
silver lining: at least england won't be burned to the ground due to post-celebration riots.

seriously, i would be afraid of how many people would be hurt, and how much property destroyed, if england won it all.  just look how crazy they went when they won the quarter-finals...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: shemptiness on July 11, 2018, 09:19:16 pm
I really don't want any more penalty kick shootouts
I predict a lot of yellow/red cards


I agree with that sentiment 99% of the time.  But it seemed a fitting way to end this one.   A story either way.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 11, 2018, 10:42:48 pm
I was kind of shocked to kind of want England to win but I thought Croatia would...just much more technically gifted players like Perisic, Modric and Rakitic but England could have slammed door after going up so early...a bit unlucky...Croatia advancing-again- via penalties would have been obscene

England did a lot right in this Cup...a long overdue fresh approach...I think they can build on this...they just lack the type of players I like although Sterling is interesting but what I like means nothing
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 11, 2018, 10:48:34 pm
Oh almost forgot..the one real weakness for England was Walker
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 12, 2018, 08:35:58 am
do we need to get someone to check on smakie....
I'm getting concerned that he's drowning his sorrows in 4 liters of brown sauce
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 12, 2018, 01:06:16 pm
Premier league won
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 12, 2018, 01:41:29 pm
do we need to get someone to check on smakie....
I'm getting concerned that he's drowning his sorrows in 4 liters of brown sauce

Call off the search - I've been found.  The wife sent a text out last night:

"Boys, I'm sorry football's not coming home this year.  But is my husband coming home?"

At which point the lads picked me up off the bar, threw me in a lyft and sent me home.

I actually feel much worse today than yesterday.  Gutted.  All the promise at halftime, intentionally ignoring what we all knew - failure to capitalize on those early chances was going to bite em in the second half.  Still the best England performance I've seen in a tournament in a very long time...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 15, 2018, 02:20:36 pm
Hard to argue with winner...the first 60 or so minutes of final where best Final!

Croatia a bit unlucky but the talent on France is pretty sick...when Pogba is relegated to 4th or 5th best player on team!!!

Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 16, 2018, 03:08:41 pm
Modric was sick
Glad he got the Golden Ball, was one of my favorites to watch this tourney

That was an exciting game, there were few times the Croats were 'this close' to scoring in the last 15 mins

not bad for a team ranked 20th before the cup (although France was ranked 7th...but were a favorite the whole time)

was a little bit redeeming/equalizing that Mandzukic first scored an own goal then later on scored a real goal (and making the goalie look stupid)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 16, 2018, 05:51:11 pm
was a little bit redeeming/equalizing that Mandzukic first scored an own goal then later on scored a real goal (and making the goalie look stupid)

The second was also very much an own goal by the keeper but just won't be scored that way....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 16, 2018, 06:39:22 pm
was a little bit redeeming/equalizing that Mandzukic first scored an own goal then later on scored a real goal (and making the goalie look stupid)

The second was also very much an own goal by the keeper but just won't be scored that way....

Absolute none sense! He pressures the goalie into making mistake
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: shemptiness on December 17, 2018, 11:43:29 am
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--xn-BarVJ--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/clxb0aisvlewc3jp1ctf.png)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: K8teebug on December 19, 2018, 11:19:21 am
Anyone else a Spurs fan?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 19, 2018, 11:54:51 am
Anyone else a Spurs fan?
While soccer is terrible and none of you are actually fans of it -- you're just cosplaying being low-class Europeans -- I do have to admit the fact that something named Tottenham Hotspur exists is comedic gold.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 19, 2018, 12:14:43 pm
Anyone else a Spurs fan?
While soccer is terrible and none of you are actually fans of it -- you're just cosplaying being low-class Europeans -- I do have to admit the fact that something named Tottenham Hotspur exists is comedic gold.

speaking of uneducated...
Tottenham's name comes from the name of a 14th-century Tottenham man, Sir Harry Hotspur, who featured in one of Shakespeare's plays, Henry the Fourth. He was a soldier, and a very fierce fighter. So, the team from Tottenham adopted this name and became Tottenham Hotspur, which is shortened to 'Spurs'.


but I agree it's kind of funny
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 19, 2018, 12:30:20 pm
speaking of uneducated...
Who said anything about anyone being uneducated?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 19, 2018, 08:36:10 pm
Anyone else a Spurs fan?

Thanks for your manager!

- Red Manchester
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 20, 2018, 03:25:31 pm
I do not think Poch is moving
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: challenged on December 21, 2018, 01:40:29 pm
I think that this is sports and music related:

https://grittymas.bandcamp.com/track/i-saw-gritty-kissing-santa-claus    (https://grittymas.bandcamp.com/track/i-saw-gritty-kissing-santa-claus)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 21, 2018, 02:18:03 pm
although I think gritty goes in the 'north of the border edition'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 21, 2018, 02:21:19 pm
although I think gritty goes in the 'north of the border edition'
Can confirm, Philly is north of DC.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 06, 2019, 08:31:05 pm

 D.C. United superstar Wayne Rooney arrested at Dulles airport for public intoxication. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/01/06/dc-united-superstar-wayne-rooney-arrested-dulles-airport-public-intoxication/)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on January 06, 2019, 11:29:37 pm
Well we have that bartender friend and he said Rooney came into his bar one day and was an asshole

My guess is he got plastered on flight, woke up feeling like shit and gave customs attitude and thought hed get away with it cause he is used to getting away with it

But the guy clearly has an issue with alcohol but so do many

Anyways I have enjoyed watching him over the years....he played really well in the DC United game I saw live..watching him and Schweinsteiger interacting on the pitch was tons of fun
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 24, 2019, 02:49:54 pm
the Snowden of Soccer (https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-sports-71a2fe22-8b3f-449a-9fc5-dfaf10ff3574.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 07, 2019, 05:47:09 pm
Not sure if this is the proper thread, but I was spinning next to my pal Wayne Rooney two weeks ago... and his lovely wife.

I guess the tabloids are wrong and they're still in a very loving and committed relationship.

Rooney has always had to shed a reputation for liking grannies, ever since he was a teen at Everton.  I love it.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on March 14, 2019, 02:53:06 pm
in case you missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3b3iP9vuZU
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 14, 2019, 03:06:39 pm
in case you missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3b3iP9vuZU

Have watched it many times....not as good as Pete Davidson's joke about Catholicism, but pretty good.

 Also, probably the right place for this:

Soccer Stars Ali Krieger and Ashlyn Harris Are Engaged! (https://people.com/sports/ali-krieger-ashlyn-harris-engaged/)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 25, 2019, 04:21:51 pm
Michel Platini detained over award of 2022 World Cup to Qatar (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/18/michel-platini-arrested-over-award-of-2022-world-cup-to-qatar)
- Former Uefa president detained in Paris
- Platini taken into custody as part of investigation
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2019, 10:47:11 am
speaking of Football...this looks like it might be good
(https://cdn.flickeringmyth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Diego-Maradona-poster-600x889.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 11, 2019, 05:44:09 pm
lol:

(https://sadanduseless.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/funny-honest-logos16.png)

source: Brutally Honest Logos (https://www.sadanduseless.com/honest-logos-funny/)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 11, 2019, 05:50:12 pm
the scary thing is that some of the regional organizations under FIFA like the South American one CONMEBOL may be even worse!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 16, 2020, 02:57:10 pm
Yeah LEEDS!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on July 17, 2020, 07:20:24 pm
YEAH LEEDS!!!!!

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53434618


Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on August 26, 2020, 03:45:46 pm
I just cant believe Messi is leaving Barcelona and rumors are he wants to end up in Manchester City reunited with Guardiola...


I have wanted him to move to Premier League for about five years....I just hope he has a few good years left
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on October 28, 2020, 05:29:33 pm
The True Cost of Lionel Messis Declaration of Independence (https://nyti.ms/2G85uHN)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 29, 2020, 07:49:26 pm
The True Cost of Lionel Messis Declaration of Independence (https://nyti.ms/2G85uHN)

You know that article is 2 months old right?

SPOILER ALERT:

He stays.  Just like the last 3, or is it 4, times his dad declared independence just to get his son more money, and whatever the hell else he wants.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2020, 08:13:20 pm
This time was different for various reasons too complicated to go into


I think he goes once his contract is up. He couldnt leave a few months ago cause he was under contract. There was no contract improvement and Luis Suarez wasnt retained so he didnt get anything


I dont think it matters all that much...Messi is now a good player but I dont think he is the best anymore and hasnt been for a while...

Father Time is undefeated

Messi should have left for Premier 3-4 years ago but obviously he was very comfortable in Barca and also lets face it he became a family man
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 24, 2020, 11:53:59 am
Budweiser has sent out a bottle to every goalkeeper Lionel Messi has scored against for his record 644 goals for Barcelona. They received a bottle for every goal Messi scored against them. Some received more than 1 bottle.

Every bottle is numbered with Messi's goal number.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqAwdqTXAAM8BnG?format=jpg&name=medium)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqAwd1NWMAEhVEF?format=jpg&name=large)

Valencia Goalkeeper Diego Alves received 21 bottles
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: hutch on December 24, 2020, 11:58:38 am
Great idea but beer is undrinkable


It makes me sad that Messi is on the downslope of his career

After Maradona I never thought I would see such a great player again... to see Messi for the past SEVENTEEN years has been a delight

Unlike Maradona he is a class act..unlike Maradona he maintained his excellence much longer...

I wonder if we will see a third greatest ever Argentine player? Odds are not in favor... its a miracle we got Messi

But Argentine kids keep playing
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on September 26, 2022, 11:29:37 pm
(https://stories.futbolete.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/the-game-of-tactics-638x1024_img_61e68b3e35ab7.jpg)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 27, 2022, 09:00:43 am
The team in the first photo should trade their blue shirt guy to the second team for their black shirt guy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Starsky on September 27, 2022, 03:01:21 pm
Just spent $60 on a box of Panini World Cup stickers.SIXTY!!

There better be a Mbappe, Neymar, Messi or Ronaldo in there..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 27, 2022, 03:13:44 pm
you were the mark in this scenario
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: grateful on September 27, 2022, 04:03:31 pm
I think you just bought a box of panineses.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Starsky on September 27, 2022, 04:05:40 pm
No Messi panineses..yet
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 27, 2022, 04:08:00 pm
No Messi panineses..yet
mark...and looks to go drop another $60
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on March 06, 2023, 01:13:51 pm
i don't follow EPL, so perhaps someone else can explain to me dafuq happened with ManU this weekend?  thanks
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 06, 2023, 01:25:13 pm
i don't follow EPL, so perhaps someone else can explain to me dafuq happened with ManU this weekend?  thanks
I mean, I didn't see it, but it seems pretty clear Liverpool scored the lone touchdown in what was otherwise a tight-defensive football game.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Hutch on March 06, 2023, 01:26:37 pm
Crazy things happen in premier league

Its exciting

I thought Man U was a little overrated and Liverpool underrated going inbut no way expecting that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on March 06, 2023, 01:35:14 pm
i don't follow EPL, so perhaps someone else can explain to me dafuq happened with ManU this weekend?  thanks
I mean, I didn't see it, but it seems pretty clear Liverpool scored the lone touchdown in what was otherwise a tight-defensive football game.

A-, would subscribe to newsletter.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 07, 2023, 01:44:17 pm
i don't follow EPL, so perhaps someone else can explain to me dafuq happened with ManU this weekend?  thanks


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Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 31, 2023, 10:00:27 am
Saudi Arabia likely to host 2034 World Cup after Australia decides not to bid for soccer showcase
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 27, 2023, 02:47:52 pm
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the Irony award goes to
1986  Maradona, Pele and Platini