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Title: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2006, 01:24:00 pm
It's not too late to come back, Mankie!
 
 More Premiership On TV in USA Than UK
 
 If you've listened to previous episodes of the EPL Talk Podcast, you may remember that celebs such as Paul Oakenfold, Bobby McMahon and others have mentioned how we in the States get to see more Premiership matches here than in England.
 
 Well, here's the proof. For the first week of the Premiership, these are the matches that will be shown on SkySports, who currently hold the exclusive rights to show the Premier League in England:
 
 ENGLAND
 
 Saturday
 Sheffield United v Liverpool, 12:45pm BST, live, Sky Sports One
 Bolton v Spurs, 5:15pm BST, live, PremPlus (PPV)
 
 Sunday
 Man United v Fulham, 1:30pm BST, live, PremPlus (PPV)
 Chelsea v Man City, 4pm BST, live, Sky Sports One
 
 Wednesday
 Charlton v Man United, 8pm BST, live, Sky Sports Two
 
 UNITED STATES
 
 SATURDAY
 
 4:30 AM PST ‚?? Sheffield Utd v. Liverpool (Live Setanta)
 6:30 AM PST ‚?? Arsenal v. Aston Villa (Live Setanta)
 7:00 AM PST ‚?? New Castle v. Wigan (Live FSC)
 9:00 AM PST ‚?? Bolton v. Tottenham (Live FSC)
 11:15 AM PST ‚?? Reading v. Middlesborough (Delayed FSC)
 11:30 AM PST ‚?? West Ham v. Charlton (Delayed Setanta)
 
 SUNDAY
 
 5:30 AM PST ‚?? Man Utd v. Fulham (Live Setanta)
 8:00 AM PST ‚?? Chelsea v. Man City (Live FSC)
 
 TUESDAY
 
 12:00 PM PST - Watford vs. West Ham (Live FSC)
 12:00 PM PST - Tottenham v. Sheffiled United (Live Setanta)
 
 WEDNESDAY
 
 12:00 PM PST - Middlesborough v. Chelsea (Live FSC)
 12:00 PM PST - Man Utd v. Charlton (Live Setanta)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2006, 12:16:00 pm
its my first year with fsc, and it was pretty awesome last weekend
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2006, 12:25:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  its my first year with fsc, and it was pretty awesome last weekend
Yep - I love the first weekend of the premiership.  Only boxing day is a better day in my eyes.
 
 I was up early and watched every match except West Ham/Charlton.  Liverpool were lucky, Arsenal were not as impressive as their new stadium, New Castle were thorough and effective, Tottenham were abysmal, Reading were scrappy, Man Utd and Chelsea were dominant.
 
 If your cable compnay doesn't offer Setanta, ITVN (Broadband TV)just cut a deal to offer Setanta for $15 a month.  That's an incredible deal (it costs $12 a month with D*TV).  They even wave the hardware charges ($99) if you sign up for a year.  
 http://www.itvn.com (http://www.itvn.com)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2006, 12:33:00 pm
i only caught the newcastle/wiggan match. kinda what i expected: good midfield play, horrid defense (not as bad as expected), good in goal with ameobi being the wild card. ought to be interesting how the attack changes with martins coming in looking like a reality
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2006, 12:49:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i only caught the newcastle/wiggan match. kinda what i expected: good midfield play, horrid defense (not as bad as expected), good in goal with ameobi being the wild card. ought to be interesting how the attack changes with martins coming in looking like a reality
While most of the focus of the last 18 months was replacing Shearer (likley having done that with the addition of Owen up until the injury), I have been amazed at the lack of attention paid to helping the back four.  Shea Given will be busy all season and he'll have to perform like that every week if New Castle are to get back into Champions League football.  Lots of holes and I'd guess Wigan are disappointed to not get at least a point out of last weekend.
 
 What are you ever going to do with Nicky Butt?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Fico on August 21, 2006, 12:56:00 pm
With the subject line and the creator of the topic I thought this was OC related...sigh.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2006, 01:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i only caught the newcastle/wiggan match. kinda what i expected: good midfield play, horrid defense (not as bad as expected), good in goal with ameobi being the wild card. ought to be interesting how the attack changes with martins coming in looking like a reality
While most of the focus of the last 18 months was replacing Shearer (likley having done that with the addition of Owen up until the injury), I have been amazed at the lack of attention paid to helping the back four.  Shea Given will be busy all season and he'll have to perform like that every week if New Castle are to get back into Champions League football.  Lots of holes and I'd guess Wigan are disappointed to not get at least a point out of last weekend.
 
 What are you ever going to do with Nicky Butt? [/b]
watch him get injured? he or someone will blow out a hammy. i like how he played for 5 minutes or so with double vision
 
 supposedly boumsong is sold and they are still trying to get wayne bridge, and still have fantasies about graveson for some reason
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2006, 01:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by Fico:
  With the subject line and the creator of the topic I thought this was OC related...sigh.
Check back in Late October/Early November...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: xcanuck on August 22, 2006, 09:31:00 am
If you had to choose between Setanta and FSC, which would you take?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 22, 2006, 01:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
  If you had to choose between Setanta and FSC, which would you take?
Really good question, but I lean towards Setanta.
 
 Nearly every Champions League match and most UEFA cup games are broadcast on Setanta from the group stages on.  That alone seals it for me.
 
 They also have Coca-Cola Championship matches, more International Matches (Euro 2008 Qualifiers), and a deal with United and Chelsea to play every match through MUTV and Blues TV (and random classics which I love to watch) - so even if I didn't get United live (although no longer a possibility this year), I'll get the game within 48 hours.
 
 They broadcast French matches (whatever) as well as Dutch matches (awesome). They also have Rugby and GAA if you're into that.
 
 FSC has taken a more US-based approach with the EPL, Mexican and Argentinian Leagues, MLS, and USL, although I still think they have the England International matches first rights.  I'm not sure if anybody broadcasts Bundesliga any longer.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 22, 2006, 01:27:00 pm
i think goltv does. they have serie a too i think, la liga and arse and liverfool tvs. bunch of south america stuff too. both this and fsc came with the 'sports package' for $5
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 22, 2006, 01:47:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  its my first year with fsc, and it was pretty awesome last weekend
If your cable compnay doesn't offer Setanta, ITVN (Broadband TV)just cut a deal to offer Setanta for $15 a month.  That's an incredible deal (it costs $12 a month with D*TV).  They even wave the hardware charges ($99) if you sign up for a year.  
  http://www.itvn.com (http://www.itvn.com) [/b]
Smackie - I had a look at this and it seems great. One question I have is that I alreayd have a cable modem and router in my basement but I'd be putting this upstairs w/ the good tv - should I just get a second cable modem to run between the itvn box and the wall?.....also do you have any idea what the picture looks like on a HDTV?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 22, 2006, 01:48:00 pm
I have purposely forgotten that Gol TV exists in my sports package.  Smackette would make me watch Real Madrid every week if she knew they were on...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 22, 2006, 01:59:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
  Smackie - I had a look at this and it seems great. One question I have is that I alreayd have a cable modem and router in my basement but I'd be putting this upstairs w/ the good tv - should I just get a second cable modem to run between the itvn box and the wall?.....also do you have any idea what the picture looks like on a HDTV?
There is a wireless option that some users have had success with, but I've recommended to my brother-in-law that he use a wired option.  Not sure of your distances, but I think the second cable modem would be the last option - try wireless and maybe running a network cable if it's feasible.
 
 Unfortunately, I'm not reconfiguring his setup for his big screen in the other room until Sept 9 when I visit LA, so I won't get to see ITVN in action until then.  I'll likely test everything from wireless to running a cable to moving the modem.  There is some feedback  here (http://eplleague.blogspot.com/2006/08/events-planned-this-weekend-for.html), however.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: xcanuck on August 22, 2006, 04:35:00 pm
Vansmack....thanks for the great reply. I'd prefer to watch the English and Spanish leagues so it looks like Setanta is the way to go. Besides, FSC means giving Rupert Murdoch more money.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 23, 2006, 06:59:00 pm
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
  Vansmack....thanks for the great reply. I'd prefer to watch the English and Spanish leagues so it looks like Setanta is the way to go. Besides, FSC means giving Rupert Murdoch more money.
No sweat.  For matches that are on FSC that you can't get on Setanta, I used to download those from the fbtz.com forum.  About 300-400 MB per half so they take a little while, but you can start watching the first half while downloading the second.
 
 And I won't post any EPL spoilers for those of you that are watching the matches when you get home this evening, but it was great night!  I will tell you that Copenhagen eliminated Ajax from the Champions League today in a shocker!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 23, 2006, 11:11:00 pm
I hope those interested in the games today will know already the scores. I was surprised to see Chelsea's final score. It might be too early, but a loss in the second game is strange given how superior they have been in the last couple of years, do you think that this year is not going to be so easy for Chelsea? If so, what other teams? Manchester United has started very strong, but again it is still too early, Arsenal, Liverpool, any other?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 24, 2006, 02:13:00 pm
Here we go again...
 
 Champions League Draw
 
 
 ‚?Ę The draw process took place in Monaco on Thursday August 24.
 
 
 Group A
 
 Barcelona
 Chelsea  
 Werder Bremen
 Levski Sofia
         
 Group B
 
 Inter
 Bayern Munich
 Sporting Lisbon
 Spartak Moscow  
         
 Group C
 
 Liverpool FC  
 PSV Eindhoven
 Bordeaux  
 Galatasaray
         
 Group D
 
 Valencia
 AS Roma  
 Olympiakos  
 Shakhtar Donetsk
         
 Group E
 
 Real Madrid  
 Lyon
 Steaua Bucuresti  
 Dynamo Kiev
         
 Group F
 
 Manchester United  
 Celtic
 Benfica
 FC Copenhagen
       
 Group G
 
 Arsenal
 FC Porto  
 CSKA Moscow  
 Hamburg  
         
 Group H
 
 AC Milan
 Lille  
 AEK Athens  
 Anderlecht
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 24, 2006, 02:28:00 pm
i haven't decided who to support in the champion's league yet. stupid nonqualifying cork city
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 24, 2006, 03:10:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I hope those interested in the games today will know already the scores. I was surprised to see Chelsea's final score. It might be too early, but a loss in the second game is strange given how superior they have been in the last couple of years, do you think that this year is not going to be so easy for Chelsea? If so, what other teams? Manchester United has started very strong, but again it is still too early, Arsenal, Liverpool, any other?
Chelsea has not looked good in the three matches I've watched them play.  That's the problem with high turnover - assuming all the pieces will just fall into place overnight.  Sure, they will get better, but how long is it going to take?  If it takes too long, the ego problem will set in with guy on the bench and the team losing.  I think this is a bigger test than Mourhino thinks it is.
 
 Arsenal will plod along, but like United with Keane, they miss their strong midfield presence in Patrick Viera.  I forgot how much he could control a game until I saw him again in the world cup.  Thierry Henry cannot do it all by himself.  
 
 Liverpool on paper have few holes, but Peter Crouch is not creative enough to carry the team.  I really think Dirk Kuyt is the wild card here.  He's creative and can score goals in Holland, but can he score at this level?  Fowler and Bellamy, when not kiling each other, will wreak havoc on others, but they're past their prime.  Oddly, a lot of injuries early, which doesn't bode well for a long campaign.
 
 New Castle, poor New Castle.  Just when they solve their problem up front, they lose him for the season.  Adding Martins is of small consolation.  A brilliant midfield (way too many options in my opinion), but a weak back four and a suspect front two make for a long season for New Castle fans.  Moments of brilliance, moments of despair all season.  Not enough to win the premiership for sure.
 
 Tottenham are slowly discovering the value of Robbie Keane.  Without him 0-2 loss.  With him, 2-0 win.  It's not what he does inside the box, it's what he sets up outside the box that is his true value.  I would have sold Carrick for 18 Million pounds too, but they don't seem to have the proper replacement.  Plus they're Tottenham, which guarantees frustration all season.  Glad I only like Keane.
 
 That leaves United.  Without Hargreaves, I think Fergie rotates the middlefield until he finds a combination that works.  Nobody can fill Roy Keane's roll, but that won't stop United from trying.  Fergie went through 11 keepers trying to replace Schmeichel before finding Van Der Saar.  That's just the way he is.  The back four, when healthy, will likely be as strong as ever - Heinze is undervalued in my opinion.  The real problem will be a strong, tough defensive midfielder and scoring goals when Rooney's out.  Saha has never played a full season, Smith is coming off an awful injury, and Rossi is unproven, to say the least.  Ole Gunnar Solskj√¶r to the rescue?  I don't put it past him, but I'm not putting any money on it either.  Yes, 8-1 in the first two matches, but consider the competition.  I will say this - this team has been playing together for a few years now, and the first two games it has really shown.  That might be the difference between Chelsea and United this year.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 24, 2006, 03:47:00 pm
there were fleeting rumors of newcastle buying keene. just crazy internet shit, but i was pretty excited. was hoping to add a solid defender, or you know...4
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 24, 2006, 07:34:00 pm
FC Barcelona Chelsea again, this time in the group stage. This game is becoming a classic in the Champions League, three years in a row now. With Werder Bremen also there, this is the toughest group. Hope we make it to the next round.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Got Haggis? on August 25, 2006, 08:45:00 am
how much extra per month is fsc on comcast? i need to get my toon army fix.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 25, 2006, 08:51:00 am
$5 on my comcast (reston)
 
 no magpies this weekend though  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2006, 12:59:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  no magpies this weekend though   :(  
Which is a shame, because now the Toon have a chance:
 
 Rossi loaned to Newcastle until January
 
 Manchester United have loaned Italian youngster Giuseppe Rossi to Newcastle.
 
 The Magpies, stricken by injury to Michael Owen as well as the retirement of Alan Shearer, have borrowed the 19-year-old, who originally hails from New Jersey but has so far chosen to represent the country of his parents.
 
 Newcastle have agreed terms with the Premiership leaders to take Rossi on loan until 1 January 2007.
 
 The Italian striker will link up with the Magpies immediately and, according to Sir Alex Ferguson, will gain some invaluable first team experience.
 
 'It was a big decision for us especially as we don't have the choice of strikers,' admitted the United boss.
 
 'But this is something that Giuseppe wanted as he needs regular first team football.
 
 'When he returns he will be a more experienced player who will be able to offer us much more.'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 31, 2006, 09:44:00 am
now all our side needs is three more defensemen. crazy rumors flying again today. and to get rid of luque and add another striker
 
 i was hoping for something better than a half season loaner from the hated manure (sorry dudes), but we shall see
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2006, 01:24:00 pm
Where the hell did West Ham get this kind of money?
 
 Hammers complete Tevez, Mascherano deal
 
 West Ham have completed the sensational double signing of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano from Corinthians on permanent contracts.
 
 The Argentinian duo, who both starred for their country at the World Cup this summer, move to Upton Park for undisclosed fees.
 
 A statement on the West Ham website read: 'The transfers represent a massive coup for the Hammers, who have beaten off some of Europe's biggest clubs to secure the services of the duo.'  
 
 --------------------
 
 That's about 15 Million pounds per player?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 31, 2006, 01:44:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Where the hell did West Ham get this kind of money?
 
 Hammers complete Tevez, Mascherano deal
 
 West Ham have completed the sensational double signing of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano from Corinthians on permanent contracts.
 
 The Argentinian duo, who both starred for their country at the World Cup this summer, move to Upton Park for undisclosed fees.
 
 A statement on the West Ham website read: 'The transfers represent a massive coup for the Hammers, who have beaten off some of Europe's biggest clubs to secure the services of the duo.'  
This is surprising. I like Mascherano, good player at River Plate. I am not sure about Tevez though, good games with Boca but sort of problematic guy. His behavior reminds me of Maradona, and I don't like that.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 31, 2006, 01:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Where the hell did West Ham get this kind of money?
 
 Hammers complete Tevez, Mascherano deal
 
 West Ham have completed the sensational double signing of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano from Corinthians on permanent contracts.
 
 The Argentinian duo, who both starred for their country at the World Cup this summer, move to Upton Park for undisclosed fees.
 
 A statement on the West Ham website read: 'The transfers represent a massive coup for the Hammers, who have beaten off some of Europe's biggest clubs to secure the services of the duo.'  
the rumor floating around is that mr. chelski owns part of corintians and torpedoed deals to arse and manure, but when the pigs came in they went at a discount
 
 really really bad senario for the rest of the nonbig 4
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2006, 02:10:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I am not sure about Tevez though, good games with Boca but sort of problematic guy. His behavior reminds me of Maradona, and I don't like that.
I heard this as well and the United faithful were quite sure there's only room for one Wayne Rooney and that's why Tevez is not at United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2006, 02:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  the rumor floating around is that mr. chelski owns part of corintians and torpedoed deals to arse and manure, but when the pigs came in they went at a discount
 
 really really bad senario for the rest of the nonbig 4
Interesting.  I also read that it's really a one year "showcase" for West Ham who have a pre-arranged profit split with Corinthians after they get better exposure, and presumably more money from European clubs next year.  I agree, either way it sets a bad precedent for the league.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 06, 2006, 03:24:00 pm
HEY SMACKIE
 do you get newcastle/fulham on setanta?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: on September 06, 2006, 06:11:00 pm
Hey Smackie (http://www.grapheine.com/futeboltv/play.php?id=4233)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 06, 2006, 06:19:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  HEY SMACKIE
 do you get newcastle/fulham on setanta?
Yes, but delayed an hour or two.
 
 Sat, Sep 9
 7:30 Everton v Liverpool (Setanta)  
 10:00 Chelsea v Charlton (Setanta)  
 10:00 Arsenal v Middlesborough (FSC)  
 12:00 Man U v Tottenham (FSC)
 2:15 Sheffield U v Blackburn (Setanta)  
 3:30 Newcastle v Fulham (Setanta)  
 
 Sun, Sep 10
 11:00 West Ham v Aston Villa (FSC)  
 
 Mon, Sep 11
 3:00 Reading v Man C (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 06, 2006, 06:26:00 pm
And next week Champions League Schedule:
 
 TUESDAY
 2:30pm PSV vs Liverpool (ESPN2 live)
 2:30pm Chelsea vs Werder Bremen (setanta live)
 5:00pm Levski Sofia vs Barcelona (Setanta delayed)
 9:00pm Galatasaray vs Bordeaux (Setanta delayed)
 
 WEDNESDAY
 2:30pm Manchester United vs Celtic (ESPN2 live)
 2:30pm Hamburg vs Arsenal (setanta live)
 5:00pm Lyon vs Real Madrid (Setanta delayed)
 7:00pm FC Porto vs CSKA Moscow (setanta delayed)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 07, 2006, 11:47:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 Yes, but delayed an hour or two.
 
bah, opposite penn state destroying nd
 
 think i'll dvr the manure/spuds game though. looks like the best fsc game
 
 might have to do the same for some of those espn2 games. good stuff
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 07, 2006, 11:51:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bah, opposite penn state destroying nd
Seriously, how we didn't hang out more in DC I'll never know...
 
 Oh, and Go Irish!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 07, 2006, 12:17:00 pm
hahaha...i've only lived here for 4 years
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2006, 12:36:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 bah, opposite penn state destroying nd
 
Rough Saturday for you, eh?  I'll stick to the premiereship to start.
 
 What a chippy Newcastle match that was!  I have said it time and time again - don't underestimate the Americans when folks from other nations are delivering the ball in the box!  Crushing defeat, especially after Parker shook off ending Bullards career to put the Maggies ahead.  I couldn't watch the replays, but Smackette watched the play over and over again and said with where his knee cap ended up, he's in big trouble to make a comeback.
 
 The Maggies back four were just terrible the last 10 minutes.  
 
 Ho hum, 12 from 4 for Rooney and Scholesless United.  If it's any consolation, I did have to sit through Ruud's hat-trick this weekend for Real.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 11, 2006, 12:48:00 pm
yeah, i didnt get the toonage here. watched arse/smoggies and a little of the asston/pigs match
 
 hear that neither of our sides new strikers did much. could be a long season, need to out shoot sides with that horrid back four
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 11, 2006, 12:54:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Ho hum, 12 from 4 for Rooney and Scholesless United.  If it's any consolation, I did have to sit through Ruud's hat-trick this weekend for Real.
Actually, I liked seeing Ruud scoring three goals. Imagine the problems in the team when Ronaldo is back, they will have to choose among Ronaldo, Van Nistelrooy, Cassano, Raul, Robinho... I like it, I think we have new problems for Real this year.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2006, 01:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Crushing defeat, especially after Parker shook off ending Bullards career to put the Maggies ahead.  I couldn't watch the replays, but Smackette watched the play over and over again and said with where his knee cap ended up, he's in big trouble to make a comeback.
UPDATE
 
 Jimmy‚??s kneecap was dislocated by accident. Thankfully the incident happened right in front of us so we were able to relocate it back into position within the first 25 seconds. He was taken to hospital straight away and the ex-ray showed no significant bone damage. Thankfully he doesn‚??t seem to have anything significant in terms of a fracture. We‚??ll get him in for an MRI scan and look at everything in more detail which will tell us how long Jimmy will be out for.
 
 Jimmy will fly back with us this evening (Saturday) and once the scans have been completed we‚??ll have a clear idea of how long he'll be out for.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2006, 01:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
   Imagine the problems in the team when Ronaldo is back, they will have to choose among Ronaldo, Van Nistelrooy, Cassano, Raul, Robinho...  
I can think of worse problems to have, but I see your point.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 11, 2006, 02:42:00 pm
sell us one
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2006, 04:37:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  And next week Champions League Schedule:
 
 TUESDAY
 5:00pm Levski Sofia vs Barcelona (Setanta delayed)
 
 WEDNESDAY
 5:00pm Lyon vs Real Madrid (Setanta delayed)
 
These 2 games will also be broadcast on ESPN Classic at the same time for those that don't have Setanta.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 11, 2006, 04:55:00 pm
they dont do that for the epl weekend games, do they?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 11, 2006, 05:19:00 pm
Do they broadcast games from the Argentinean league in the US as well? these are interesting games, although yesterday the Gimnasia La Plata - Boca Juniors was suspended for apparently major threats to the referee during half time, crazy football there but the atmosphere in key games is the best in football.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2006, 05:26:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  they dont do that for the epl weekend games, do they?
No, and I doubt they will.  ESPN has broadcast rights for Champions League.  They have no broadcast rights for the EPL.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 11, 2006, 05:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Do they broadcast games from the Argentinean league in the US as well?  
Fox Soccer Channel has broadcast rights for the Argentinian League, and that game you mention was the game of the week for them, if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 12, 2006, 09:57:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  they dont do that for the epl weekend games, do they?
No, and I doubt they will.  ESPN has broadcast rights for Champions League.  They have no broadcast rights for the EPL. [/b]
looks like neither one gets newcastle this weekend. bah
 
 manure/arse on sunday could be fun, though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2006, 08:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  looks like neither one gets newcastle this weekend. bah
 
 manure/arse on sunday could be fun, though
No, we don't get the Toon Army this weekend.  I did forget to mention Tottenham's UEFA match was on FSC today.  My bad.
 
 SATURDAY SEPT 16
 
 7:30am  Charlton Athletic vs Portsmouth (Set)
 9:30am  Everton vs Wigan Athletic (Set)
 10:00am Bolton  v. Middlesbrough  (FSC)
 Noon Watford v. Aston Villa (FSC)  
 3:00 PM   Sheffield United vs Reading (delayed Set)
 
 SUNDAY SEPT 17
 
 8:30am Chelsea vs Liverpool (Set)
 11:00am Man Utd. vs. Arsenal (FSC)  
 5:00pm Tottenham vs Fulham (delayed Set)
 
 Also 6:30am PSV vs Feyenoord (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 14, 2006, 11:29:00 pm
Dynamo Kiev  1 - 4  Steaua Bucuresti
 Lyon  2 - 0  Real Madrid
 FC Copenhagen  0 - 0  Benfica
 Man Utd  3 - 2  Celtic
 FC Porto  0 - 0  CSKA Moscow
 Hamburg SV  1 - 2  Arsenal
 AC Milan  3 - 0  AEK Athens
 Anderlecht  1 - 1  Lille
 Barcelona  5 - 0  Levski Sofia
 Chelsea  2 - 0  Werder Bremen
 Bayern Munich  4 - 0  Spartak Moscow
 Sporting Lisbon  1 - 0  Inter Milan
 Galatasaray  0 - 0  Bordeaux
 PSV Eindhoven  0 - 0  Liverpool
 AS Roma  4 - 0  Shakhtar Donetsk
 Olympiakos  2 - 4  Valencia
 
 Pretty similar to last year, Chelsea, Barcelona, Lyon and, maybe, Milan look strong.
 
 Manchester United had more problems than expected. Then the typical strong teams of Valencia and Bayern Munich. Arsenal, not sure, they can make it far, but they have started pretty badly in the Premiership and I believe Hamburg played with ten players most of the game.
 
 As for the disappointments, Real Madrid, who seems to be repeating the disappointing football of the last four seasons and Inter Milan, who are always favorites, but can't win any important trophy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 15, 2006, 08:10:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 SATURDAY SEPT 16
 
 7:30am  Charlton Athletic vs Portsmouth (Set)
 9:30am  Everton vs Wigan Athletic (Set)
 10:00am Bolton  v. Middlesbrough  (FSC)
 Noon Watford v. Aston Villa (FSC)  
 3:00 PM   Sheffield United vs Reading (delayed Set)
 
 SUNDAY SEPT 17
 
 8:30am Chelsea vs Liverpool (Set)
 11:00am Man Utd. vs. Arsenal (FSC)  
 5:00pm Tottenham vs Fulham (delayed Set)
 
 Also 6:30am PSV vs Feyenoord (Set)
saturday games dont exactly excite me. have the dvr set for the man u arse match though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2006, 12:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Pretty similar to last year, Chelsea, Barcelona, Lyon and, maybe, Milan look strong.
 
 Manchester United had more problems than expected. Then the typical strong teams of Valencia and Bayern Munich. Arsenal, not sure, they can make it far, but they have started pretty badly in the Premiership and I believe Hamburg played with ten players most of the game.
 
 As for the disappointments, Real Madrid, who seems to be repeating the disappointing football of the last four seasons and Inter Milan, who are always favorites, but can't win any important trophy.
Aresenal were horrible.  It was 10 men, on a horrible sending off of Hamburgs keeper and the ensuing penalty was the difference.  Hamburg nearly tied it up in stoppage time, despite playing with 10 men for half the first and all of the second half.
 
 Barca looked the strongest of the lot, but they also played the weakest team.  
 
 Real, well lets just say there was a lot of talent on the pitch, but absolutely no flow between them.  They stunk.
 
 United were a bit sour and the loss of Giggs and Park and going to even out the return of Rooney (who looked a little off) and Scholes, who still can't time a tackle to save his life.  This month without Giggs will be a real test for them.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2006, 12:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  saturday games dont exactly excite me. have the dvr set for the man u arse match though
This happens every year when UEFA starts the Champions League and the Cup.  There will start to be good Sunday games missed from the tele.
 
 I'll likely watch them all in double time at least, but I'll sit in regular speed through the Everton v. Wigan match because I like the pesky Wigan (I just can't look at their hideous uniforms) before I watch the Irish beat up on another Big 10 team.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 15, 2006, 12:39:00 pm
i always find sept and oct funny because notre dame looks like a member of the big 10, which they should be anyway.
 
 i might catch some of the bolton/smoggies match, because of the time. i always thought the name 'wanderers' was cool for some reason
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 15, 2006, 12:53:00 pm
weird, fsc replays toon/porkers on monday. of course i'll be deep into the steelers/jagoffs monday night  :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2006, 01:10:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i always find sept and oct funny because notre dame looks like a member of the big 10, which they should be anyway.
And share their precious TV revenue with the rest of the conference?  Never (of course one more year of Ty Willingham/Bob Davie and the Irish would have been begging the Big 10 to let them in after NBC cancelled the deal).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2006, 01:11:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  weird, fsc replays toon/porkers on monday. of course i'll be deep into the steelers/jagoffs monday night   :D  
I knew we would eventually agree on a team...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 15, 2006, 01:15:00 pm
i'm a pittsburgh kid, what can i say
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2006, 03:13:00 pm
Eriksson linked with U.S. post
 PA
 
 Sven-Goran Eriksson is being considered as a replacement for Bruce Arena as coach of the United States, according to a report in the U.S.
 
 The New York Times report that United States Soccer Federation officials have spoken to the former England coach, although the Americans may struggle to meet his wage demands if he seeks a similar pay deal to the one he had with England.
 
 Arena's eight-year spell with the US team came to an end after the World Cup, with the USSF deciding not to renew his contract after the Americans failed to get beyond the group stages.
 
 Several high profile coaches have been linked with the vacant position, including former Germany coach Jurgen Klinsmann -- who lives in Southern California -- and Jose Pekerman, who led Argentina at this year's World Cup.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 15, 2006, 03:41:00 pm
its klinsman's if he wants it
 
 wasnt erickson saying he wanted to manage a big english club like a week ago? the conjecture was newcastle once they sack roeder
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 22, 2006, 06:30:00 pm
SATURDAY
 
 7:30am Liverpool vs Tottenham (Set)
 9:45am Fulham vs Chelsea (Set)
 10:00am Arsenal vs Sheffield United (FSC)  
 10:00am Manchester City vs West Ham (Set Xtra - D*TV only, CH 670)
 12:00 p.m. Reading  vs Manchester Utd. (FSC)
 2:30 p.m. Aston Villa vs Charlton  (FSC)
 3:30pm Manchester City vs West Ham (Set Delayed)
 
 SUNDAY
 
 11:00 a.m. Newcastle  vs Everton  
 
 I haven't found the Old Firm game on Saturday on TV anywhere, so if anybody sees it, let me know.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 25, 2006, 02:10:00 pm
This weeks Champion's League fixtures on US TV:
 
 TUESDAY
 
 2:30pm Benfica vs. Manchester United (ESPN2)
 2:30pm Arsenal vs Porto (Setanta)
 5:00pm Real Madrid vs Dynamo Kiev (Set Delayed/ESPN Classic Del)
 9:00pm Lille vs AC Milan (Set Delayed)  
 
 WEDNESDAY
 
 2:30pm Levski Sofia vs. Chelsea (ESPN2)
 2:30pm Liverpool vs Galatasaray (Set)
 5:00pm Inter Milan vs Bayern Munich (Set Del)
 5:00pm Werder Bremen vs. Barcelona (ESPN Classic Del)
 7:00pm Valencia vs Roma (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 25, 2006, 02:32:00 pm
newcastle/neverto match was pretty good. would have liked to have 3 points, but lucky to have one. ameobi was way off sides
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on September 29, 2006, 04:56:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  newcastle/neverto match was pretty good. would have liked to have 3 points, but lucky to have one. ameobi was way off sides
Just let me know when you're ready to talk about Alonso's goal over Harper....
 
 SATURDAY
 
 7:30am Bolton Wanderers v Liverpool (Set)
 10am Charlton Athletic v Arsenal (Set)
 10am Chelsea v Aston Villa (FSC)
 12pm Sheffield United v Middlesbrough (FSC)2:15pm Everton v Manchester City (FSC Delayed)
 
 SUNDAY
 
 9am Manchester United v Newcastle United (Set)9am West Ham United v Reading (Set Xtra)
 11am Tottenham Hotspur v Portsmouth (FSC)
 3pm Watford v Fulham (set)
 
 
 Venerable tells me you're going to be busy this weekend and likely miss the New Castle match.  Take it from me - lay the law down from day one and make her wait until after the match before you do anything!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on September 29, 2006, 05:40:00 pm
For those in the Baltimore area, Slainte in Fells Point is showing this games this weekend.
 
 Sat
 7:30am  Bolton Wanderers vs Liverpool - Premiership
 
 9:30am  Charlton vs Arsenal - Premiership
 
 2:00pm  Munster vs Ulster - Magners League
 
 10am    Chealsea Vs Aston Villa
 12pm    Shieffield Utd Vs Middlesbrough
 
 Sun
 9:55am  Manchester United vs Newcastle United - Premiership
 
 11am    Tottenham Vs Porthsmoth
 Mon
 3pm     Watford Vs Fullham
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on September 30, 2006, 12:58:00 pm
Chelsea 1 - Aston Villa 1
 Charlton 1 - Arsenal 2
 Bolton 2 - Liverpool 0
 
 It seems that this year things are going to be interesting, the top teams are losing lots of points compared to previous seasons where you would have either Arsenal or Chelsea winning most of the games.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2006, 12:25:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Chelsea 1 - Aston Villa 1
 Charlton 1 - Arsenal 2
 Bolton 2 - Liverpool 0
 
 It seems that this year things are going to be interesting, the top teams are losing lots of points compared to previous seasons where you would have either Arsenal or Chelsea winning most of the games.
You forgot Man U 2-0 Newcastle.
 
 Ole, Ole Gunnar Solskj√¶r, Ole, Ole Gunnar Solskj√¶r!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 03, 2006, 01:12:00 pm
Bummer Brennser, looks like we'll have to hit the pub for the Ireland match next week.
 
 Sat. Oct 7 Euro 2008 Qualifier  
 
 England v Macedonia 12:00pm (Set Premuim ‚?? Pub only)
 Scotland vs France 12:00pm (Set)
 Cyprus v Ireland 12:30 (Set Premium ‚?? Pub Only)
 Denmark v. N. Ireland  2:00 p.m. (FSC)  
 Italy vs Ukraine 2:45 (Set)
 Serbia  v. Belgium  4:00 p.m. (FSC)  
 Sweden vs Spain 5:00pm (Set)
 Bulgaria vs Holland 7:00pm (Set)
 
 Sun. Oct 8 Euro 2008 Qualifier Delayed Broadcasts
 
 Kazakhstan vs Poland 6:00pm (set)
 Cyprus vs Ireland 8:00pm (set)
 Greece vs Norway 10:00pm (set)
 
 Tues. Oct 10 Euro 2008 Qualifier
 
 England v. Macedonia 8:00pm (FSC replay)
 
 Wed. Oct 11 Euro 2008 Qualifier  
 
 Croatia v England 1:00 p.m. (Set Premium ‚?? Pub Only)
 Iceland v. Sweden 2:00 p.m. (FSC)
 Georgia vs Italy 2:00 p.m. (set)
 Ireland v Czech Republic 2:30 p.m. (Set Premium ‚?? Pub Only)
 Poland v Portugal 2:30 p.m. (Set Premium ‚?? Pub Only)
 France v. Faroe Islands 4:00 p.m. (FSC)
 Slovakia vs Germany 4:00 p.m. (Set)
 Turkey vs Moldova 6:00 p.m. (Set)
 Georgia vs Italy 8:00 p.m. (Set)
 
 Thu. Oct 12 Euro 2008 Qualifiers Delayed Broadcasts
 
 Poland vs Portugal 5:15 (Set)
 Ireland vs Czech Republic 7:15 (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 03, 2006, 01:45:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 Bummer Brennser, looks like we'll have to hit the pub for the Ireland match next week.
 
at the rate the injuries are piling up I'm getting myself into shape for a last minute call up!!
   :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 06, 2006, 10:48:00 pm
I hate these weekends with no soccer games from the different European leagues. These qualifying games for the European Cup or for the World Cup are so boring.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 07, 2006, 01:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I hate these weekends with no soccer games from the different European leagues. These qualifying games for the European Cup or for the World Cup are so boring.
I'm beginning to agree with you, and it's barely 10 AM pacific time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 07, 2006, 04:51:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I hate these weekends with no soccer games from the different European leagues. These qualifying games for the European Cup or for the World Cup are so boring.
I'm beginning to agree with you, and it's barely 10 AM pacific time. [/b]
If they show it in the US, try to watch tomorrow's superclasico, River Plate - Boca Juniors from Argentina's Apertura league.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 09, 2006, 02:46:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  at the rate the injuries are piling up I'm getting myself into shape for a last minute call up!!
    :D  
It might have helped, actually. Despite the injury, I never would have thought that would be the result.  Embarrassing.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 09, 2006, 03:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  at the rate the injuries are piling up I'm getting myself into shape for a last minute call up!!
     :D  
It might have helped, actually. Despite the injury, I never would have thought that would be the result.  Embarrassing. [/b]
agreed, as a former Irish Prime Minister once said, grotesque, unbelievable, bizarre, and unprecedented.....truly a pitiful performance
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 20, 2006, 04:31:00 pm
smackie, I need my weekend footy schedule!!   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Venerable Bede on October 20, 2006, 04:46:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
  smackie, I need my weekend footy schedule!!    ;)  
unfortunately, smackie is in socal this weekend.  
 
 all i got is that the tigers/cards game starts at 8:05 eastern on saturday.  unless you want me to go through college football.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: bigyellow100 on October 20, 2006, 05:07:00 pm
ALLEZ-LE LOSC!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 21, 2006, 10:24:00 am
I think this weekend you should try to watch this.
 
 http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AoDOQmUG8fVL21jEhvzRZ.8mw7YF?slug=reu-spain_preview&prov=reuters&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AoDOQmUG8fVL21jEhvzRZ.8mw7YF?slug=reu-spain_preview&prov=reuters&type=lgns)
 
 PREVIEW-Soccer-Real out to heal wounds against champions Barca
 
 By Simon Baskett
 
 MADRID, Oct 19 (Reuters) - Nothing hurts Real Madrid more than having to live in the shadow of arch-rivals Barcelona and a victory in this Sunday's 'clasico' at the Bernabeu would go a long way to healing the wounds from the last three seasons.
 
 The last time Barca visited Real Madrid's stadium they dealt the home side a humiliating 3-0 defeat which ended with Ronaldinho being given a standing ovation by the irate home fans after he scored a sublime double.
 
 That defeat was, in many ways, the low point of Real's so-called Galactico era and was one of the events that prompted the eventual exit of former president Florentino Perez.
 
 After witnessing the collapse of their attempt to put together an all-star team based on glamorous big-name players and attack-minded football, Real have now opted for a back-to-basics approach under new coach Fabio Capello.
 
 The Italian has been charged with the task of introducing a disciplined, conservative approach based on a solid defence and a well ordered midfield rather than the more anarchic style that has characterised the team's performances in recent years.
 
 The change has yet to produce consistent results and the new-look team slumped to their first league defeat of the campaign when they lost 1-0 at Getafe last Saturday.
 
 Ronaldo, the club's leading striker for the last four seasons, was sent off for back chat to the referee and will miss the Barca match through suspension.
 
 But the team were a completely different proposition in Tuesday's 4-1 away win over former European champions Steaua Bucharest, the presence of Brazilian forward Robinho adding a new dimension to the Real attack.
 
 "We saw a team with quality and spirit and that is what counts," said Capello. "Now I'm happy.
 
 "I said we had to forget the performance against Getafe because we can't play like that ever again. Instead, we saw a Real Madrid that played with pace and skill."
 
 HUMILIATING DEFEAT
 
 After back-to-back league titles and victory in the Champions League last season, Barcelona appear to have lost some of their edge.
 
 A humiliating 3-0 defeat by Sevilla in the European Super Cup was an early sign of vulnerability and Wednesday's morale-sapping 1-0 setback at Chelsea exposed another chink in the previously impervious Barcelona armour.
 
 Without injured striker Samuel Eto'o, Barca no longer find it so easy to punch holes in opposition defences.
 
 Also, coaches like Juande Ramos and Jose Mourinho have shown that tight marking of Ronaldinho and suffocating pressure in midfield are the secret to success against the Catalans.
 
 Although they are not firing on all cylinders, Frank Rijkaard's side still have a three-point lead at the top of the Primera Liga, and are five points clear of Real after last Sunday's morale-boosting 3-1 victory over Sevilla.
 
 Barca know another victory over Real will dispel any doubts about the team.
 
 "The Chelsea defeat was an accident against a very good team, nothing more," said skipper Carles Puyol. "Things can be sorted out with a victory at the Bernabeu."
 
 Real's biggest enemy could be overconfidence after their comfortable win against Steaua.
 
 "I've told the players that we have the best squad in the world, that no one can beat us if we put our minds to it," Real president Ramon Calderon told Marca on Thursday. "I'm certain that we will beat Barca."
 
 Updated on Thursday, Oct 19, 2006 6:01 am EDT
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 23, 2006, 04:17:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
  smackie, I need my weekend footy schedule!!    ;)  
Yes, my bad!  Rough week.  There was only English match worth watching anyway....
 
 I do have an ITVN update as well.  They're adding On-Demand to watch the Setanta matches later in the day or up to a week (I believe) so that you don't have to watch them all live.  Good move on their part.
 
 Here's the mid week "clashes" - boy do I hate the Carling Cup.
 
 TUESDAY
 
 2:30pm Chesterfield vs West Ham - Carling Cup (Set)
 
 WEDNESDAY
 
 2:00pm Crewe vs Man Utd - Carling Cup (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 23, 2006, 04:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I think this weekend you should try to watch this.
Woops.  Looks like Becks on the bench might be the key....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 23, 2006, 04:54:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  smackie, I need my weekend footy schedule!!     ;)  
Yes, my bad!  Rough week.  There TUESDAY
 
 2:30pm Chesterfield vs West Ham - Carling Cup (Set)
 [/b]
so if West Ham lose this one I would imagine Pardews position becomes pretty untenable, no?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 24, 2006, 08:36:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  smackie, I need my weekend footy schedule!!      ;)    
Yes, my bad!  Rough week.  There TUESDAY
 
 2:30pm Chesterfield vs West Ham - Carling Cup (Set)
 [/b]
so if West Ham lose this one I would imagine Pardews position becomes pretty untenable, no? [/b]
well they lost....now lets see what happens
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 25, 2006, 01:52:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I think this weekend you should try to watch this.
Woops.  Looks like Becks on the bench might be the key.... [/b]
Still haven't visited any sports website since Sunday. It is taking long to recover from those two losses last week.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2006, 05:58:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  well they lost....now lets see what happens
They've got to sack him - to lose after sitting his Argentine Duo and scoring the early goal is just unacceptable.
 
 We've come a long way from the initial discussions of the Hammers qualifying for Europe after Argentine signing...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 27, 2006, 11:57:00 am
This Weeks English Premiereship TV Schedule:
 
 Sat.  Oct 28  
 
 7:30am Sheff Utd vs Chelsea (Set)
 10:00 a.m.  Liverpool  vs. Aston Villa  (FSC)
 10:00am Bolton vs Man Utd (Set)
 10:00am Arsenal vs Everton (Set Xtra ‚?? D*TV channel 670)
 12:00 p.m.  Newcastle  vs. Charlton  (FSC)
 2:30 p.m.  Watford vs. Tottenham (FSC)
 
 Sun.  Oct 29  
 
 11:00 a.m. West Ham  vs. Blackburn (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Venerable Bede on October 27, 2006, 12:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  This Weeks English Premiereship TV Schedule:
 
 Sat.  Oct 28  
 
 10:00 a.m.  Liverpool  vs. Aston Villa  (FSC)
 10:00am Bolton vs Man Utd (Set)
 10:00am Arsenal vs Everton (Set Xtra ‚?? D*TV channel 670)
 12:00 p.m.  Newcastle  vs. Charlton  (FSC)
 
so, does that mean we'll be flipping back and forth between those and the mizzou/ou game and ND/navy game?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 27, 2006, 02:57:00 pm
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  so, does that mean we'll be flipping back and forth between those and the mizzou/ou game and ND/navy game?
Nope - those times are Eastern.  I'll be watching United at 7AM PT and we can watch college football uninterrupted starting at 9AM PT.
 
 I can watch the rest on Sunday morning with my extra hour before the NFL.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 30, 2006, 09:37:00 pm
magpies need to stop sucking at soccer
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 31, 2006, 09:36:00 pm
I'm so mad with Mourinho's behaviour. This is the perfect example of someone within football that promotes violence.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 01, 2006, 12:57:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I'm so mad with Mourinho's behaviour. This is the perfect example of someone within football that promotes violence.
Shockingly, and I would add appallingly, that game was not available in the US without pay per view.  Not surprisingly, we missed the game of the day, and most likely the week.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 01, 2006, 06:46:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I'm so mad with Mourinho's behaviour. This is the perfect example of someone within football that promotes violence.
This was sick though:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bPbqHAktII (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bPbqHAktII)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 03, 2006, 03:36:00 pm
Saturday, Nov 4
 
 7:45 Fulham v Everton (Setanta)  
 10:00 Liverpool v Reading (FSC)
 10:00 Man United v Portsmouth (Setanta)  
 12:00 Newcastle v Sheffield United (FSC)  
 2:15  Charlton v Man City (FSC)  
 
 Sun, Nov 5
 
 8:30 West Ham v Arsenal (Setanta)  
 11:00 Tottenham v Chelsea (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 07, 2006, 01:23:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I'm so mad with Mourinho's behaviour. This is the perfect example of someone within football that promotes violence.
Tottenham took it right to them this weekend.  And Terry had a complete meltdown.  Great match start to finish.
 
 Paled in comparison to the heavyweight battle between Wenger and Pardew.  Shocked that Arsenal lost with such disgrace...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 07, 2006, 01:35:00 pm
yeah, that was pretty fantastic. i kinda hate both sides, but great match
 
 must be the time of year for meltdowns, carr and parker (!!!) both had some issues with the crowd at st james park
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 07, 2006, 01:46:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  yeah, that was pretty fantastic. i kinda hate both sides, but great match
 
 must be the time of year for meltdowns, carr and parker (!!!) both had some issues with the crowd at st james park
I wasn't going to bring up Newcastle for fear that the Maggies, combined with the Steelers, combined with Penn State and JoePa brekaing his leg might have been too much for you to handle.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 07, 2006, 02:35:00 pm
who are these people and what do they have to do with gilbert arenas, malkin and crosby?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 07, 2006, 02:45:00 pm
Haha, go Ducks!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 07, 2006, 05:37:00 pm
Actually, the weekend didn't start very well on Saturday with Barcelona drawing in Galicia against Deportivo La Coru√Īa, but ended nicely with Chelsea losing to Totenham (my team in London) and Real Madrid losing at home against Celta de Vigo. Actually, the press and fans in Madrid on Sunday morning were already saying that they had already caught Barcelona in the table, but late in the afternoon, they were even further down. And Capello saying that Real Madrid had played the best game in the season, that is great!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2006, 10:27:00 am
so the freddy adu to england rumors (or rumours) are flying again. sounds like he really wants to go to a big 4 team, which is a mistake
 
 unless he decides to play for the u.s. or ends up on tyneside (might be a good fit, wont happen) i could really care less, but he should go (even if on loan) to a lower to mid table team where he can get on the pitch regularly with the first team
 
 thoughts?
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Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on November 09, 2006, 10:33:00 am
I go the the Birchmere for the food.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so the freddy adu to england rumors (or rumours) are flying again. sounds like he really wants to go to a big 4 team, which is a mistake
 
 unless he decides to play for the u.s. or ends up on tyneside (might be a good fit, wont happen) i could really care less, but he should go (even if on loan) to a lower to mid table team where he can get on the pitch regularly with the first team
 
 thoughts?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2006, 12:09:00 pm
it blows my mind that you have 13000+ posts
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on November 09, 2006, 12:39:00 pm
Damn, I'm so embarrassed.
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  it blows my mind that you have 13000+ posts
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 09, 2006, 01:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so the freddy adu to england rumors (or rumours) are flying again.  
Is he 18 yet?  I think he'll have to wait until the summer transfer window.
 
 And yes he should go to England, and no it shouldn't be to a big 4, although it will be a big 4 team that signs him, and they'll put him on loan like the other US players that are on Big 4 Rosters (Spector, Howard, Rossi).
 
 Perhaps Bobby Convey can show him the way here.  His career has certainly blossomed since he decided to play for Reading.  He should not talk to that little pusst Landon Donavon however, who couldn't cut it in Germany so he left.  Three times.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2006, 01:47:00 pm
no, in june
 
  but he's going to train with man u next month (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/soccer/11/09/bc.soc.manchesterunited.ap/)
 
 looks like he decided to play for the u.s. under 20 team. cool
 
 do you count rossi as american?
 
 also donOvan. spell it right
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 09, 2006, 01:50:00 pm
Saturday, Nov 11
 
 07:45 Man City v Newcastle (Setanta)  
 10:00 Middlesbrough v West Ham (SetantaX)  
 10:00 Everton v Aston Villa (FSC)  
 10:00 Chelsea v Watford (Setanta)    
 12:00 Blackburn v Man United (FSC)  
 2:15  Portsmouth v Fulham (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, Nov 12
 
 08:30 Reading v Spurs (Setanta)  
 11:00 Arsenal v Liverpool (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2006, 01:52:00 pm
saturday games on fsc dont do much for me, but the sunday game should be cool
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 09, 2006, 01:56:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  do you count rossi as american?
No, but if I say it enough times maybe it will come true.
 
 And my bad on Donovan.  Still a pussy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2006, 02:19:00 pm
i forgive you
 
 dempsey was trying to go to charleton last summer too
 
 i still think landon should try europe again, but my view of him is far from impartial
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on November 09, 2006, 04:04:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so the freddy adu to england rumors (or rumours) are flying again.  
Is he 18 yet?  I think he'll have to wait until the summer transfer window.
 
 And yes he should go to England, and no it shouldn't be to a big 4, although it will be a big 4 team that signs him, and they'll put him on loan like the other US players that are on Big 4 Rosters (Spector, Howard, Rossi).
 
 Perhaps Bobby Convey can show him the way here.  His career has certainly blossomed since he decided to play for Reading.  He should not talk to that little pusst Landon Donavon however, who couldn't cut it in Germany so he left.  Three times. [/b]
so does freddy win the award for most overhyped sports prodigy ever? I mean, seriously, its not like he set a mediocre league like MLS on fire over the past few years.....when Wayne Rooney and Norman Whiteside were his age they were doing much much more....I think it was basicalyl a marketing ploy by MLS - I'll be very interested to see how good a player he actually turns out to be
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 15, 2006, 01:27:00 pm
Saturday, Nov 18
 
 7:45AM Man City v Fulham (Setanta)
 10:00 Arsenal v Newcastle (SetantaX)
 10:00 Sheffield United v Man United (FSC)  
 10:00 Chelsea v West Ham (Setanta)  
 12:00PM Middlesboro v Liverpool (FSC)2
 2:15 Everton v Bolton (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, Nov 19
 
 8:30AM Wigan v Aston Villa (Setanta)
 11:00 Blackburn v Spurs (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on November 26, 2006, 09:32:00 pm
I'll settle for 1-1 v chelsea.....we had the better chances overall but there was a 25 minute period in the seocnd half where chelsea looked very impressive
 
 and ronaldinho's  goal this weekend was sick.....an all time classic
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 26, 2006, 10:47:00 pm
I was just watching the goal in You Tube. Spectacular.
 
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyJZ0pG-Ilo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyJZ0pG-Ilo)  
 
 I watched the Manchester United - Chelsea. One thing I like about Manchester is that Scholes and Giggs are still playing very well. Really liked these two players. I think Manchester United will win the premiership this year.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 27, 2006, 11:56:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  I'll settle for 1-1 v chelsea.....we had the better chances overall but there was a 25 minute period in the seocnd half where chelsea looked very impressive
 
 and ronaldinho's  goal this weekend was sick.....an all time classic
That goal is ridiculous.  
 
 As for United, definitely a tale of two halves.  United failed to put them away a couple times in the first half and twice to start the second, then the class football of Chelsea came out (why was Joe Cole on the bench for so long?), and United weathered an amazing storm.  Both teams should be happy with a point, and feel they could have had three.
 
 And giggsy's turn around the last two seasons has been amazing.  The press had him left for dead 3 years ago, but now I'm quite certain he's the best player on the pitch for United week in and week out.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on November 27, 2006, 12:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  and ronaldinho's  goal this weekend was sick.....an all time classic
outta control... but am i the only one who thinks he looked offside?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 27, 2006, 12:48:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by sweetcell:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  and ronaldinho's  goal this weekend was sick.....an all time classic
outta control... but am i the only one who thinks he looked offside? [/b]
No, at the time Xavi kicked the ball to pass it to Ronaldinho, there was a Villareal player between Ronaldinho and the goalkeeper.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 27, 2006, 01:44:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  No, at the time Xavi kicked the ball to pass it to Ronaldinho, there was a Villareal player between Ronaldinho and the goalkeeper.
Yep, the bald guy on Villareal played him onside.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 27, 2006, 02:37:00 pm
I strongly encourage to see next Tuesday's Barcelona Werder Bremen for the last spot in the group for the round of 16 of the Champions League. Should be a great game and I am scared to death. The Oporto - Arsenal and Manchester United - Benfica games will be great as well.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 27, 2006, 03:42:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I strongly encourage to see next Tuesday's Barcelona Werder Bremen for the last spot in the group for the round of 16 of the Champions League. Should be a great game and I am scared to death. The Oporto - Arsenal and Manchester United - Benfica games will be great as well.
Before we get to next week, most premiereship teams have two league games first.  But of course, the last match day of the champions league should be a national holiday!
 
 Tuesday, November 28
 
 3:00pm Watford vs Sheffield United (set)
 
 Wednesday, November 29
 
 3:00pm Manchester United vs Everton (set)
 3:00pm Bolton vs. Chelsea (FSC)  
 5:00pm Fulham vs. Arsenal (FSC)
 
 Thursday, November 30
 
 2:30pm UEFA Cup - Frankfurt vs Newcastle United (set)
 
 Saturday, Dec 2
 
 7:30am Arsenal v Tottenham (set)
 10:00am Wigan v Liverpool (set)
 10:00am Reading v Bolton (FSC)
 12:00pm Middlesbrough v Manchester United (FSC)  
 12:00pm Portsmouth v Aston Villa (set)  
 2:30pm Blackburn v Fulham (FSC)
 
 Sunday, Dec 3
 
 11:00am Everton v West Ham (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 28, 2006, 04:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  so does freddy win the award for most overhyped sports prodigy ever? I mean, seriously, its not like he set a mediocre league like MLS on fire over the past few years.....
It looks like his coach might agree with you:
 
 Adu told to snub Man United by club coach
 
 Freddy Adu has been warned off a move to Manchester United by his club coach in the United States.
   
 DC United coach Peter Nowak believes the Ghana-born 17-year-old, who is currently on trial with the Red Devils, could struggle in the rough and tumble of the Premiership and believes he should look to a different club for his first move in Europe.
 
 'He's a young kid and he needs matches,' Nowak told The Guardian.
 
 'I think he should go to PSV (Eindhoven) or Ajax or somewhere where they have a tradition of raising young players.
 
 'At a place like Ajax the young kids come through together and they grow up together; the team is shaped around them. In the biggest environment at the club with the biggest budget it will be hard for them to wait for him to develop.
 
 'I still feel he needs the minutes and the experience.'
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 28, 2006, 05:35:00 pm
hey smackie, will i ever see the toon on fox soccer channel ever again?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 28, 2006, 05:49:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hey smackie, will i ever see the toon on fox soccer channel ever again?
Wednesday, December 13 you'll get to see The Toon on FSC.  Unfortunately for you, they're at Stamford Bridge.
 
 And I think you'll get the Saturday December 23rd game as well, home against Spurs.  It's the best game of that weekend before Boxing Day.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on November 28, 2006, 06:16:00 pm
awesome on the 13th
 
 i might miss the match on the 23rd, though. will be on the way to pixburgh an at
 
 as far as freddy goes, if manure buy him, he's going to get loaned out during the next transfer period. hope its the epl so i can critique
 
 i'm sick of watching arse every week. rvp is too pretty
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on November 29, 2006, 02:25:00 pm
totti's goal aint too shabby either
 
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=G0GyYaI6DoU (http://youtube.com/watch?v=G0GyYaI6DoU)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 29, 2006, 03:50:00 pm
that was the first roma match i watched all season
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 01, 2006, 01:15:00 pm
An early Xmas Present...
 
 Man Utd to sign Larsson
 
 Larsson arrival end's Man United striker hunt
 
  <img src="http://soccernet-att.espn.go.com/design05/images/JonMC/December2006/larsson412.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 The shock arrival of Henrik Larsson will mark the end of Manchester United's extensive striker search until next summer.
   
 With his attacking options currently depleted, Sir Alex Ferguson has pulled off a major coup in securing Larsson on a three-month loan from Helsingborg.
 
 The 35-year-old Celtic legend will fly into England at the beginning of January and remain with the Old Trafford outfit until March 12 before returning to his native Sweden for the start of their domestic campaign.
 
 Larsson will provide valuable back-up to first-choice strikers Louis Saha and Wayne Rooney at a time when United hope to be mounting a serious challenge for honours both at home and abroad.
 
 And, while Ferguson continues to be linked with big-money moves for Fernando Torres and Darren Bent, the Scot is convinced now Larsson's arrival is certain, he will not need to look for any more forwards when the transfer window opens next month.
 
 'No, we won't be going for any other strikers,' confirmed the United boss.
 
 'We have exhausted all avenues and this, without doubt, is the best option.'
 
 The imminent return of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer from a hamstring strain should see United through to the new year, when Giuseppe Rossi seems certain to be recalled from his loan spell at Newcastle, offering Ferguson even more alternatives for the start of the Red Devils' FA Cup campaign.
 
 However, the arrival of Larsson has certainly captured the imagination of the United faithful.
 
 Recently voted the best Swedish player of the past 50 years, Larsson scored an incredible 242 goals in 315 appearances during seven highly-successful years at Parkhead before leaving for Barcelona, where he won the Champions League in May.
 
 Ferguson credits Larsson's arrival off the bench when his team were losing to Arsenal as the major factor behind the Catalans' eventual triumph and admitted he tried to sign the player while he was still in Scotland.
 
 'We made a move for him while he was still at Celtic but they managed to persuade him to stay,' revealed Ferguson.
 
 'I always knew he wanted to try Barcelona but we didn't go for him when he was leaving there in the summer because we were under the impression he wanted to go back to Sweden, which he did.'
 
 However, with it becoming increasingly obvious United could not hope to maintain a successful title quest with the strikers currently available, Ferguson told chief scout Jim Lawlor to pursue a hunch over Larsson with Helsingborg coach, and fellow Scot, Stuart Baxter.
 
 Although Larsson has extensive business interests in his homeland, he was willing to take up the challenge of appearing in the Premiership for the first time in his career.
 
 His first United appearance is likely to be in an FA Cup third-round tie, with a possible Premiership debut against Aston Villa, whose manager Martin O'Neill used to be his boss at Celtic, a week later.
 
 Unless his loan period is extended, something Ferguson doubts will happen, Larsson will be available for a maximum of 13 games, including the first Champions League knock-out round and testing trips to Arsenal and Liverpool.
 
 'The length of the contract is perfect,' said Larsson.
 
 I probably won't play every match from the start, but for me it feels like a very fun thing to contribute at such a late stage in my career.
 
 'I have no idea how Sir Alex wants to use me. I will be back-up at the beginning, then we will see what I can contribute and where things are going.'
 
 Larsson will link up with his new team-mates ahead of the trip to West Ham on December 17, then train at Carrington for a week before heading back to Sweden for Christmas, then returning to England a week later.
 
 However, Ferguson has been keen to stress Larsson's arrival does not mark the end of Alan Smith's stay at Old Trafford, even though the ¬£6million former Leeds front-man has not even been seen on the bench since being substituted in the Carling Cup defeat to Southend.
 
 'Alan's future with the club is good,' declared Ferguson.
 
 'The problem was we misread the situation when he came back from his injury.
 
 'He did very well in pre-season but after that, there was no progress and we didn't really realise it until we saw him play against Crewe and Southend.
 
 'Now we have got him on a quite intensive speed programme and he is working very hard at that. He knows there is a lot of hard work to do but he is progressing well.'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 02, 2006, 09:15:00 am
yeah, this is HUUUGE!!  :)
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  An early Xmas Present...
 
 Man Utd to sign Larsson
 
 Larsson arrival end's Man United striker hunt
 
   <img src="http://soccernet-att.espn.go.com/design05/images/JonMC/December2006/larsson412.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 05, 2006, 06:29:00 pm
Another early Xmas present....
 
 German legend to lead U.S. Soccer
 Jamie Trecker / Fox Soccer Channel
 Posted: 2 hours ago
 
 J√ľrgen Klinsmann will be named head coach of the U.S. men's national team within two weeks according to a number of well-placed sources with knowledge of the deal.
 
 His appointment as coach was perhaps the worst-kept secret in American soccer: Klinsmann publicly acknowledged that he was interested in the job and there has been persistent buzz since the World Cup ended in July that the interview process for the national team job was essentially a matter of going through the motions.
 
 Warren Mersereau, who is both Klinsmann's business partner and representative, said "no comment" when contacted for this story.
 
 There were two sticking points in signing Klinsmann: The first was Klinsmann's long relationship with adidas. The U.S. national soccer team is heavily underwritten by Nike, and sources at the shoewear companies said talk of the appointment initially caused some concern. According to a person connected with the shoe company today, Klinsmann has left adidas, solving the issue in one fell swoop.
 
 The second issue looks to be more contentious. Speaking on condition of anonymity granted because they were not given permission to speak about the appointment, two sources confirmed that the issue of power-sharing was a major bone of contention. Former coach Bruce Arena had carved out a wide swath for himself during his tenure, and Klinsmann has reportedly demanded that he too be essentially the sole decision-maker on national team matters.
 
 This has not sat well with some at the Federation, who were mindful of past friction. According to several people at the team level with intimate knowledge of the subject, relations between General Secretary Dan Flynn and Arena deteriorated to the point that the two men barely spoke to one another.
 
 Klinsmann, who steered Germany to a third-place finish in the 2006 World Cup and won the 1990 World Cup as a player, has long been coveted by the Americans to restart a stuttering men's national team program. A star with VfB Stuttgart, Tottenham Hotspur and Bayern Munich, the former forward has a reputation for being a pragmatist and displayed considerable acumen and political savvy during his tenure as German national team head coach.
 
 Klinsmann inherits a program in dire need of fresh ideas. Under former coach Arena, the men's program compiled their best-ever record of 71-30-29, and reached the 2002 World Cup quarterfinals (losing, ironically, to Germany) but Arena took much of the criticism for the team's 0-2-1 performance at the 2006 World Cup. Ranked before the World Cup an unrealistic fifth by the now-defunct FIFA ranking system, the Americans, who have never performed well on European soil, faltered badly despite high expectations.
 
 In addition, during Arena's tenure, the national team youth programs failed to achieve notable success despite the presence of some young talent, while his abrasive manner left many cold.
 
 In hindsight, many people have begun to realize that Arena's record was padded out with many wins ‚?? usually accomplished at home ‚?? against opposition that fell short of the top level. In particular, Arena's pre-World Cup friendly schedule ‚?? Latvia, Morocco and Venezuela ‚?? was widely mocked as insufficient; of course the USA also managed to lose to Morocco in the process.
 
 Klinsmann, who is fluent in English and German, is one of the most "American" former European pros out there. Married to an American, Debbie Chin, he has long lived in Southern California and was actually subject to heavy criticism by the German media and Federation prior to the 2006 World Cup for spending too much time in the States.
 
 Moreover, he was questioned for injecting "American ideas" into a moribund German side. Klinsmann hired American-trained fitness trainers and a sports psychologist and displayed a relentless optimism that seemed to overwhelm the traditionally staid German sports culture.
 
 In that respect, he seems perfect for the modernist American soccer scene, which has long depended upon the Bradenton-based academy partnership with IMG for top player development.
 
 Klinsmann also knows a bit about American players, and clearly has a well-developed sense of humor: He played alongside a handful of them with a California-based USL development team in 2003 under a pseudonym, "Jay Goppingen."
 
 Klinsmann enters at a fortuitous time ‚?? but also with an extremely difficult task ahead. He has already won over the small core of "hardcore" soccer fans in America (he has been their consensus pick for months now) and is an internationally recognized name in the sport, even to the sometime removed editorial class of American sports journalism.
 
 In addition, Klinsmann will benefit from a small wave of European-trained players now making their way through the ranks to challenge for positions. Jay Demerit (Watford), Benny Feilhaber (Hamburg), Marcus Hahnemann (Reading), Tim Howard (Everton/Manchester United) and Jonathan Spector (West Ham) are all playing consistently and can provide the badly-needed fills for certain holes. Only Hahnemann and Howard, both goalkeepers, were included on the 2006 World Cup roster.
 
 Klinsmann surely has his work cut out for him. His biggest job may well be reforming a stagnant culture within U.S. Soccer itself. Too many areas of the sport's growth in the United States have stalled while too few in the soccer business seem to realize that corporate sponsorship does not mean mainstream success.
 
 Both the men's national teams and the professional league (MLS) are finding it hard to attract consistent, significant numbers of fans at the gate as well. The fact remains that outside of World Cup years, most American sports fans pay little attention to soccer. Klinsmann will have to cajole not just sponsors but the media and the fans as well. He seems well suited for the task, but it is an open question whether sports talk radio ‚?? still a bellwether for industry trends ‚?? will warm to the affable German or pay more than the occasional minute of attention to the USA's games.
 
 Klinsmann will also have to make peace with the players. There's no question that the drawn-out selection process has irked the men of the national team, or rather, the players who feel they will be or should be on it. By sitting idle for so long, they have lost paychecks, and more than one of them has said in conversation that they fail to understand why they aren't active on available FIFA dates. January's scheduled match against Denmark, likely to showcase a squad of home-based players rather than a full team if history is any guide, has done little to quiet those rumblings.
 
 For now, Klinsmann will have a holiday honeymoon. He will likely spend the next month or two emailing players from that Starbucks in Orange County, and hire scouts to examine the overlooked Americans toiling in Scandinavia and England's Championship. If he's smart, he'll make overhauling the youth development system a priority while his political clout is at the apogee.
 
 And then, like all of us, he'll have to wait and see just what he has to work with. All the charm in the world cannot alter the fact that the Americans still don't have the talent to win consistently at the elite levels of the game, especially on European soil. Changing that fact will be his biggest challenge. If he is successful, it would be an admirable legacy indeed.
 
 Contact Jamie at Jamie.trecker@gmail.com
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 05, 2006, 08:32:00 pm
Ronaldinho's goal tonight against Werder Bremen makes him not only a great player but also makes him a truly intelligent guy, great to have him in Barcelona.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 06, 2006, 01:55:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Ronaldinho's goal tonight against Werder Bremen makes him not only a great player but also makes him a truly intelligent guy, great to have him in Barcelona.
Just saw it - that was cheeky....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Venerable Bede on December 07, 2006, 04:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Another early Xmas present....
 
 German legend to lead U.S. Soccer
 Jamie Trecker / Fox Soccer Channel
 Posted: 2 hours ago
 
 J√ľrgen Klinsmann will be named head coach of the U.S. men's national team within two weeks according to a number of well-placed sources with knowledge of the deal.
 
 
not so fast-
 
 Klinsmann withdraws from consideration as U.S. coach
 
 By RONALD BLUM, AP Sports Writer
 December 7, 2006
 
 Juergen Klinsmann withdrew Thursday from consideration as coach of the U.S. soccer team after several months of talks failed to lead to an agreement, a U.S. Soccer Federation official told The Associated Press.
 
 The official said an announcement would be made later Thursday. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the USSF statement had not yet been released.
 
 Earlier this week, it appeared the USSF and Klinsmann were moving toward an agreement. Authority had been as big an issue as money in the talks, a second person familiar with the negotiations said, also speaking on condition of anonymity.
 
 Klinsmann had been the favorite to succeed Bruce Arena, who was let go in July after 7 1/2 years. Arena coached the American team to the World Cup quarterfinals in 2002, the best showing by the United States since the initial tournament in 1930, but the U.S. team was eliminated in the first round this year.
 
 A close friend of Arena, Klinsmann led Germany to the World Cup semifinals this year in his first professional coaching assignment. He lives in Newport Beach, Calif. -- a close commute to the practice facility in Carson where the Americans often train.
 
 Updated on Thursday, Dec 7, 2006 3:02 pm EST
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Post by: godsshoeshine on December 07, 2006, 05:39:00 pm
bummer
 
 HOWEVER yesterday's toooooon match was not. totally exciting, with the correct result. thank you dvr
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Post by: vansmack on December 07, 2006, 05:52:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bummer
 
 HOWEVER yesterday's toooooon match was not. totally exciting, with the correct result. thank you dvr
Venerable is off my Xmas card list.
 
 As for the Toon, the wife said the match was on in the background while she was studying and said it wasn't anything special so I waited until just after midnight last night to watch it, planning on FFing through it.  Last time I listen to her.  It was a great match and I didn't get to sleep until way too late!
 
 And United looked damn good as well.
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Post by: vansmack on December 07, 2006, 06:54:00 pm
This is just stupid.
 
 Bradley to be Named Interim US Head Coach
 
 The U.S. Soccer Federation on Friday will name current Chivas USA coach Bob Bradley as U.S. national team coach a source close to the negotiations confirmed to ESPN.com on Thursday. But the hiring is only temporary.
 
 After lengthy negotiations with former German national team coach Juergen Klinsmann fell through, the USSF decided to stay close to home with its choice to replace Bruce Arena as U.S. men's national soccer team head coach.
 
 Bradley, who won an MLS Cup title with the Chicago Fire in 1998 and was recently named MLS Coach of the Year, will be hired on an interim basis, with the USSF expected to begin a new search at some point during the summer. Sources would not confirm whether Bradley will still be head coach when the U.S. national team is due to take part in the CONCACAF Gold Cup (June 6-24) and Copa Libertadores (June 26-July 15) this summer. The announcement puts an end to a more than five-month long search to find a replacement for Arena, who had his own eight-year stint as U.S. coach end after the team was eliminated in the group stages of the 2006 World Cup without winning a match.
 
 Klinsmann was the favorite for the job almost after he resigned from the German national team immediately after the World Cup, but he and U.S. Soccer president Sunil Gulati never could come to an agreement.
 
 Gulati had considered a long list of candidates, including former Argentina coach Jose Pekerman, current Manchester United assistant coach Carlos Queiroz and current Lyon coach Gerard Houllier, but chose to hire Bradley to handle coaching duties for the next six months. Bradley is expected to be considered for the position once the search resumes.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 08, 2006, 12:04:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Ronaldinho's goal tonight against Werder Bremen makes him not only a great player but also makes him a truly intelligent guy, great to have him in Barcelona.
amazing goal....genius....pity we didn't see him at this level in Germany
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 08, 2006, 12:35:00 pm
Saturday, Dec 9
 
 07:45 Man United v Man City (Setanta)  
 10:00 Blackburn v Newcastle (SetantaX)
 10:00 Spurs v Charlton (FSC)  
 10:00 Liverpool v Fulham (Setanta)
 12:00 Bolton v West Ham (FSC)
 2:15 Portsmouth v Everton (FSC)
 
   
 Sunday, Dec 10
 
 11:00 Chelsea v Arsenal (FSC)
 
 
 Monday, Dec 11
 
 3:00 Sheffield United v Aston Villa (FSC)  
 
 
 Wednesday, Dec 13
 
 2:30 Chelsea v Newcastle (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 08, 2006, 01:25:00 pm
horrible decision on the usa's part
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 08, 2006, 01:36:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  horrible decision on the usa's part
I'm so mad I'm not even ready to talk about it yet.  I've already decided to go talk to Klinsmann at that Starbuck's he hangs out when I'm in The OC over the break.  I want to know what happened - I'm guessing power play between the Board and Klinsmann.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 08, 2006, 02:39:00 pm
i think the rumor is control over the squad selection
 
 us soccer should thank its lucky stars that a top manager would entertain even the notion of coming over
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 08, 2006, 03:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i think the rumor is control over the squad selection
 
 us soccer should thank its lucky stars that a top manager would entertain even the notion of coming over
I agree.  Give him whatever he wants.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 09, 2006, 10:51:00 am
hey smackie, what's the best way to get games on my computer? trying to figure it out, but cant
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 11, 2006, 03:09:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hey smackie, what's the best way to get games on my computer? trying to figure it out, but cant
To watch them live, I used to use Cool Streaming or PPLive, but I haven't had to do that in a while so I'm not sure if they still work.
 
 If you missed them and want to download them, you can bittorrent them through fbtz.com, if that's still running.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 11, 2006, 12:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hey smackie, will i ever see the toon on fox soccer channel ever again?
I'm counting on the newly resurgent toon to take at least a point of chelsea this week!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 11, 2006, 04:14:00 pm
guess it depends who's healthy
 
 which is no one
 
 i dont think that emre or solano are going to see action
 
 which means luque and rossi upfront with martins
 
 butt and the kids in the middle
 
 doesnt matter who's at defense, they're all pretty horrible
 
 hard to get a point against chelski with that  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 15, 2006, 01:17:00 am
you gave em a tough time - I would have been thrilled with a scoreless draw - oh well
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Post by: brennser on December 15, 2006, 01:19:00 am
well on Sunday I will be at Upton Park watching my beloved Manchester United against West Ham - hopefully the Hammers won't be too fired up for Curbs and we can get another 3 points under our belt
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Post by: godsshoeshine on December 15, 2006, 11:08:00 am
sounds like an awesome time, have a good one
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  you gave em a tough time - I would have been thrilled with a scoreless draw - oh well
losing zogs was tough though. hopefully parker and dyer will be back this weekend
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 15, 2006, 12:12:00 pm
promising games in the last sixteen of the Champions League.
 
 Oporto - Chelsea
 Celtic - Milan
 PSV - Arsenal
 Lille - Manchester United
 Roma - Olympique Lyon
 Barcelona - Liverpool
 Real Madrid - Bayern Munich
 Inter Milan - Valencia
 
 my predictions:
 Chelsea
 Milan
 Arsenal
 Manchester United
 Lyon
 Barcelona
 Bayern Munich
 Valencia
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 15, 2006, 03:29:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  well on Sunday I will be at Upton Park watching my beloved Manchester United against West Ham - hopefully the Hammers won't be too fired up for Curbs and we can get another 3 points under our belt
Seriously?  At first I said not very nice things about you, but that's just because I'm super jealous.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 15, 2006, 03:42:00 pm
Saturday, Dec 16
 
 7:45 Charlton v Liverpool (Setanta)
 10:00 Arsenal v Portsmouth (Setanta)
 10:00 Newcastle v Watford (SetantaX)  
 10:00 Wigan v Sheffield United (FSC)
 12:00 Man City v Tottenham (FSC)
 2:15 Reading v Blackburn (FSC)
   
 Sunday, Dec 17
 
 08:30 Everton v Chelsea (Setanta)
 11:00 West Ham v Manchester United (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 15, 2006, 07:40:00 pm
bleh
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: xcanuck on December 18, 2006, 12:48:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 11:00 West Ham v Manchester United (FSC)
West Ham 1 Man United 0
 
 Well, holy crap indeed. A fun game, nonetheless.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 20, 2006, 03:33:00 pm
Have a good holiday, footballers!
 
 Saturday, Dec 23
 
 7:45 Fulham v West Ham (Setanta)
 10:00 Aston Villa v Man United (Setanta)  
 10:00 Liverpool v Watford  (FSC)  
 12:00 Wigan v Chelsea (FSC)  
 2:15  Newcastle v Tottenham (FSC)
 
 Tuesday, Dec. 26
 
 8:00 Tottenham v Aston Villa (FSC)
 8:00 Chelsea vs Reading (Setanta)
 10:00 West Ham v Portsmouth (FSC)
 10:00 Man United v Wigan (SetantaX, replayed at 12 on Set)
 10:00 Blackburn vs Liverpool (Setanta)
 12:30 Watford v Arsenal (FSC)  
 3:00  Bolton v Newcastle (FSC)
 
  Saturday, Dec. 30  
 
 8:00 Charlton vs Aston Villa (Set)
 10:00 Chelsea v Fulham (FSC)
 10:00 Tottenham v Liverpool (SetX, replayed at 12 on Set)
 10:00 Man United vs Reading (Set)  
 12:00 Sheffield Utd. v Arsenal (FSC)  
 2:15 Everton v Newcastle (FSC - 4 in a row!)  
 
 Sunday, Dec. 31  
 11:00 West Ham v Manchester City (FSC)  
 
 Monday, January 1 2007
 8:00 Liverpool vs Bolton (Set)
 10:00 Portsmouth vs Tottenham (Set)
 10:00 Manchester City v Everton (FSC)
 12:00 Reading vs West Ham (Set)  
 12:00 Newcastle v Manchester Utd. (FSC)    
 2:15  Wigan v Blackburn (FSC)  
 
 Tuesday, Jan. 2
 3:00  Aston Villa v Chelsea (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 24, 2006, 08:15:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  well on Sunday I will be at Upton Park watching my beloved Manchester United against West Ham - hopefully the Hammers won't be too fired up for Curbs and we can get another 3 points under our belt
Seriously?  At first I said not very nice things about you, but that's just because I'm super jealous. [/b]
yes, seriously - twas the best of times and the worst of times - fantastic taking the tube out to the game and soaking up all the pre match atmosphere, fantastic watching the Chelsea-Everton game underneath the visiting supporters stand....until Chelsea snuck away with the win, fantastic learning and then singing a bunch of chants I hadn't heard before......great atmosphere overall....but a terrible game, bereft of any of the sparkling play United have shown this year and then a jammy goal at the end meant that it was effectively a 6 point swing on the day.....but a great experience
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 27, 2006, 04:56:00 pm
for some reason my dvr recorded the wrong boxing day match. fuckers
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 30, 2006, 03:53:00 pm
MOU-RIN-I-HO are you listenin'
 you'd better keep that trophy glistening
 we'll be back in May, to take it away
 walkin' in a Fergie wonderland!!!!!
 
 6 points clear, +13 goal difference, not bad heading into the new year!!!   :D    :D    :D
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 30, 2006, 04:50:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  MOU-RIN-I-HO are you listenin'
 you'd better keep that trophy glistening
 we'll be back in May, to take it away
 walkin' in a Fergie wonderland!!!!!
 
 6 points clear, +13 goal difference, not bad heading into the new year!!!    :D      :D      :D  
Everton demanded got an apology out of Morono for saying Andy Johnson is a diver....Fergie (tongue in cheek) demanded one too, because Morono said chelski would be top by christmas!!
 
 As long as United can stay relatively healthy the premiership is ours...if we get injuries we'll struggle because there's just no strength in depth at the moment. Old money-bags at Stamford Bridge could field two premiership teams with their squad. If we get Rossi back and he plays to his potential, get Alan Smith back to his best and buy Hargreaves from Bayern Munich I think we'll be fine..but that's three 'ifs'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 02, 2007, 01:16:00 pm
guess one of the few times you're allowed to feel good about a home draw is when you are facing manure
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 02, 2007, 02:06:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  for some reason my dvr recorded the wrong boxing day match. fuckers
You should have been watching live....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 02, 2007, 02:15:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  guess one of the few times you're allowed to feel good about a home draw is when you are Newcastle United
indeed...
 
 You know you're team is shyte when your best player is the goalie.....How's it working out up there with Michael Owen!!!    :p
 
 Seriously....I didn't get to see the game but it was a cracker evidently.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 02, 2007, 02:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 
 Seriously....I didn't get to see the game but it was a cracker evidently.
Oi, Scholesy, despite scoring twice, was abysmal on defense partnered with the turnover that is known as Darren Fletcher.  Both Toon goals came from outside the 18 yard box due to their inablility to properly close out.  Argh...
 
 Entertaining match though as niether team played very well on defense creating a lot of offense.  United should have scored more than 2 goals when they have 20+ scoring chances though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 02, 2007, 04:12:00 pm
is it any wonder that given is their best player with that defence? good luck staying above chelski after drawing against an oh-so-terrible side
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 02, 2007, 04:18:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  is it any wonder that given is their best player with that defence? good luck staying above chelski after drawing against an oh-so-terrible side
Watching Chelski play without Terry reminds me of the agonizing 8 months United spent without Ferdinand.  They're in big trouble without Terry.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 02, 2007, 04:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  is it any wonder that given is their best player with that defence? good luck staying above chelski after drawing against an oh-so-terrible side
It's okay...Given is Ireland's best player too. That little island is struggling with it's football, but what a rugby team they've got.  :eek:  If  you consider the population of the island is about 5million, take out the eastern european, English, German and French immigrants and it's down to about 1,500, and they can produce a team like that when the GAA is also feeding off it's athletes is pretty amazing. They're Irish too, not like the footie team who get in the squad because they're brits with an Irish great grandma or whatever. How many Irish accents are in the Irish football squad?
 
 Chelski's problem goes much deeper than Terry's bad back....that team has much bigger injury woes with bruised ego's. I'm still waiting patiently for that train wreck. If United can hold on to win the premiership and chelski don't win the champions league, morono will be gone and there will be a fire-sale at Stamford Bridge. Why couldn't Abrmaovich buy racehorses like real billionaires do?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 02, 2007, 05:59:00 pm
Tonights game
 
 Aston Villa 0 - 0 Chelski
 
 and for those interested in the mid-table goings on....
 
 Arseholes 4 - 0 Charlton
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 02, 2007, 06:39:00 pm
ireland has damien duff too   :(  
 
 both injured   :o
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 11, 2007, 12:22:00 pm
Wow (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=399471&cc=5739)
 
 not bad for a washed up midfielder!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2007, 12:48:00 pm
yeah...wow
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2007, 01:11:00 pm
The NY-NJ Metro-Stars/Red Bulls must be pissed.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2007, 01:19:00 pm
i thought they were going for the fat ronaldo
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2007, 01:44:00 pm
They are, but Becks is the bigger draw.
 
 This is akin to Bonds leaving MLB for Taiwan, as far as I'm concerned.  Which is fine, as long as the best US players keep coming to Europe to learn how to REALLY play the game, I'm fine with MLS getting all the washed up Euros.
 
 Of course, I'm not sure the entire MLS is worth $250 Million....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on January 11, 2007, 02:01:00 pm
I wish Ronaldo, Beckham, Van Nilstelrooy, Roberto Carlos, Raul, Cannavaro (amazing how bad he is playing)... stayed in Madrid a couple more years. It is so fun to see the amounts Real Madrid spends every year and the daily problems in the team.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2007, 02:07:00 pm
So if you're Real, what do you do with Becks the rest of the season?  You have to transfer him, right?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2007, 02:23:00 pm
Saturday, January 13
 
 07:45 Watford v Liverpool (Setanta)
 10:00 Man United v Aston Villa (Setanta)
 10:00 West Ham v Fulham (SetantaX)  
 10:00 Chelsea v Wigan (FSC)
 12:00 Blackburn v Arsenal (FSC)
 2:15 Bolton v Man City (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, January 14
 
 08:40 Everton v Reading (Setanta)  
 11:00 Spurs v Newcastle (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 11, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
For fear of sounding cynical...Becks joing the LA Galaxy has nothing to do with football or money, it all has to do with Posh trying to get her *ahem* musical career back on track.
 
 Also, for fear of offending the US Soccer federation, which is not my intent...where in God's name is he going to play in the real football leagues when he's got Man Utd and R. Madrid on his resume. Any other team would be a step down, with possibly the exception of Barca, but at 31 he's too old for them now.
 
 I think it's great, really...he can use his celebrity status to promote the sport over here in the USA, but just make sure you keep sending your top talent to Europe to learn the game properly, then get your national team a European coach and The US will be a major contender in the not too distant future.
 
 BTW....remember my prediction about chelski and the train wreck???? It's happening sooner than I thought.  :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2007, 02:50:00 pm
Fulham given green light for £3m Dempsey
 Paul Logothetis
 Thursday January 11, 2007
 The Guardian
 
 Clint Dempsey has become the third United States international at Fulham after receiving a work permit yesterday. Dempsey, the 2004 Major League Soccer rookie of the year, arrives from New England Revolution in a deal that could eventually be worth ¬£3m.
 
 The 23-year-old midfielder will join his fellow countrymen Carlos Bocanegra and Brian McBride, who were brought to the club by the Craven Cottage manager Chris Coleman in January 2004. Fulham are also in talks with the American defender Oguchi Onyewu, who is reportedly close to making a ¬£1m switch from the Belgian side Standard Li√®ge.
 
 The Home Office panel approved the permit for Dempsey even though he has played less than 75% of the US team's recent games. He has, however, been involved in nine of their 13 matches last year, giving him 23 caps. Dempsey scored the only goal by an American at last year's World Cup.
 
 "We're pleased this opportunity worked out for Clint," said Steve Nicol, the New England coach and former Liverpool defender. "He has been a tremendous player for us. Clint developed his game a great deal during his time with the Revolution. It's a great credit to him and the level of play in MLS that Fulham pushed so hard to get him."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2007, 03:26:00 pm
yeah, why would you want to play for (say) everton or lazio, work your ass off, and still have all the presure. better to go to l.a., get some sun and play some games
 
 maybe he can show landon donovan a thing or two as well
 
 dempsey's deal is great also, i know he wanted to go in the summer
 
 not too shabby for the u.s. too bad they didnt land dreamcoach
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2007, 03:30:00 pm
Adam (Taunton, MA): Tommy, I saw you on Press Pass stating that Beckham was reportedly going to make $9 million/year. Now I'm reading 5 years at $250 million. That's $50 million a year! DC United just sold for $30 million a few weeks ago! Does this make any sense financially?
 
  Tommy Smyth: (2:19 PM ET ) The fact they are reporting 250 million is in my opinion what the deal will be worth to Beckham in the 5 years that he plays with the Galaxy. The Galaxy are not paying 250 million, but he will making that sort of money with endorsements and image rights, etc.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 16, 2007, 06:16:00 pm
Football in America
 
 Beckham‚??s away win
 Jan 12th 2007
 From Economist.com
 
 David Beckham won't make Americans watch soccer
 
 DAVID BECKHAM gained the nickname ‚??Goldenballs‚?Ě as much for his earning power as for his footballing skills. Even if the latter may be in decline, the news this week that England‚??s most famous footballer would join Los Angeles Galaxy at the end of Europe‚??s domestic season confirmed that he has lost none of the former. He will leave Real Madrid, one of Europe‚??s top clubs, in return for a five-year deal worth as much as $250m. The ex-captain of England is set to end his career with a team that is not even the best among the dozen clubs of America‚??s top league, Major League Soccer (MLS). But salary, image rights and a share of the profits should see Mr Beckham rake in the sort of sums he has grown used to having in Europe.
 
 What America stands to gain in return is less obvious. Association football‚??soccer‚??has always struggled for popularity in the United States. LA Galaxy and America‚??s football authorities apparently believe that buying a 31-year-old megastar, albeit one near the end of his career, may somehow give a jolt to the game, encouraging the creation of similar audiences to those attracted by baseball, basketball and American football.
 
  But Mr Beckham is unlikely to have a big impact. Football has long struggled to find big audiences. The North American Soccer League ran from 1968-84 and sometimes attracted decent crowds, especially after siging up ageing stars such as Pele and George Best. But when the flow of foreign talent dried up so did the crowds and the league was closed.
 
 The latest attempt to sell soccer to America, MLS, was established as a condition of hosting the 1994 World Cup. It too has failed to thrive. Although dollars have been poured in by individuals and corporations keen to boost the game, it remains a peripheral spectator sport. MLS had predicted that crowds would grow by some 10-15% a year. But they have not. Matches drew an average of around 15,000 spectators a decade ago and get about the same today. Nor are viewers flocking to the small screen. Last November‚??s MLS Cup, won by Houston Dynamo, was watched in 800,000 households, a fifth fewer than the year before.
 
 A common explanation is that viewers enthralled with high-scoring games like baseball and American football will never warm to a game that all too often ends at 0-0. Yet there should be a sizeable audience waiting to watch: perhaps 17m Americans, many of them young, Latino and female, play football. Many of these, one might expect, would also be ready to watch the game.
 
 In fact, Americans interested in football may simply consider the domestic product to be substandard. Cable channels broadcast matches from the world‚??s top leagues to show how it should be played. A wage cap of under $2m per 18-man squad, intended to nurture domestic talent rather then expensive foreign imports, has deterred top athletes who can earn far more in other sports. A new rule, of which Mr Beckham has taken advantage, now allows a side to employ two designated players who are not covered by the capping system. His arrival may attract other top stars but an influx of European celebrities looking for a sinecure in their footballing dotage will hardly change the structure of the game in America.
 
 Don Garber, who runs MLS, admitted last year that without the core support of Latinos professional soccer would not exist in America. Exhibition matches between Real Madrid, Barcelona and MLS sides drew big crowds last year. Many MLS sides are employing Spanish marketing teams and a mid-week competition with Mexican club sides is planned for next season. Latinos may not have the same draw for advertisers as the affluent middle-class folk whose children like to play the game. But if MLS wants to expand the clubs should consider importing rising stars from Spain and Latin America rather than overpaying players now somewhat past their best.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 16, 2007, 09:35:00 pm
good luck with that last part
 
 why does fsc hate liverpool so much? dont get to see the clash with chelski this weekend   :mad:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 17, 2007, 01:36:00 am
I'm guessing FSC had first choice and chose Arseholes v. United instead.
 
 Saturday, Jan 20
 
 07:45 Liverpool v Chelsea (Setanta)  
 10:00 Aston Villa v Watford (SetantaX)
 10:00 Fulham v Spurs (Setanta)
 10:00 Newcastle v West Ham (FSC)  
 12:15 Man City v Blackburn (FSC)
 14:15 Portsmouth v Charlton (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, Jan 21
 
 08:30 Wigan v Everton (Setanta)  
 11:00 Arsenal v Man United (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 17, 2007, 12:16:00 pm
i dont think fsc ever has the lunch game
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 17, 2007, 05:25:00 pm
You could be right.  The TiVo just says "Premiereship Soccer" so I don't really pay attention to what channel its on.
 
 And, oh, how quickly we've fallen:
 
 Top 20 FIFA World Rankings:
 1. Brazil 1588 points
 2. Italy 1560
 3. Argentina 1551
 4. France 1523
 5. Germany 1363
 6. England 1359
 7. Netherlands 1305
 8. Portugal 1258
 9. Nigeria 1244
 10. Czech Republic 1190
 11. Cameroon 1160
 12. Spain 1154
 13. Ukraine 1054
 14. Sweden 958
 15. Croatia 948
 16. Greece 945
 17. Switzerland 937
 18. Ivory Coast 919
 19. Egypt 918
 20. Romania 912
 
 31. United States
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 17, 2007, 05:29:00 pm
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31. United States
could be worse...
 
 47. N. Ireland
 49. Ireland
 74. Wales
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 17, 2007, 07:02:00 pm
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49. Ireland
please tell me i'm not going to have to support england again in euro 08
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 17, 2007, 09:03:00 pm
After seeing today's Cup results, you've got bigger problems than the Euro finals....
 
 How do you play so well against Spurs then shit the bed so badly against Birmingham?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 18, 2007, 11:45:00 am
part of me is a bit relieved. squad's too thin for 3 compititions
 
 didnt watch it but supposedly given was even bad
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2007, 07:29:00 pm
6 Memorable Goals Against Arsenal (http://mu.tv.manutd.com/default.aspx?p=channels/C6Freeview)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 19, 2007, 02:04:00 pm
Bummer.  I like Feyenoord.  This was one of the more promising matches of the Round of 32.
 
 Updated: Jan. 19, 2007
 Feyenoord thrown out of UEFA CupAssociated Press
 
 NYON, Switzerland -- The Dutch club Feyenoord was expelled from the UEFA Cup on Friday because of crowd disturbances.  
 
 Feyenoord was set to meet Tottenham in the round of 32 of Europe's second-tier club competition. UEFA officials will meet Monday to decide whether the English club will have to play another opponent instead.
 
 Feyenoord fans fought and smashed windows at Nancy before ripping out and throwing seats during a 3-0 loss on Nov. 30 in the French city.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 19, 2007, 02:42:00 pm
i thought the dutch were supposed to be nice
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 19, 2007, 02:47:00 pm
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i thought the dutch were supposed to be nice
au contraire (http://www.expatica.com/actual/article.asp?subchannel_id=63&story_id=54)  
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i thought the dutch were supposed to be nice
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 19, 2007, 04:02:00 pm
too much hash
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 20, 2007, 10:38:00 am
never thought I'd say this but Liverpool, you beauties, you absolute fucking beauties!!!!
 
   <img src="http://soccernet-att.espn.go.com/design05/images/domr/kuytpennant_al_g.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on January 20, 2007, 01:59:00 pm
Always great to see Mourinho's Chelsea lose a game. But I am bit worried to play Liverpool in the last 16 of the Champions League, while they can badly lose two games in a row at home against Arsenal, the following week they can easily beat a team like Chelsea. Barcelona needs to respect Liverpool as much as Man. United, Arsenal or Chelsea.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on January 21, 2007, 03:28:00 pm
Wonderful finish this morning!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 23, 2007, 12:51:00 am
WEST HAM: Jonathon Spector (D)
 FULHAM: Carlos Bocanegra (D), Brian McBride (S), Clint Dempsey (M)
 READING: Bobby Convey (M), Marcus Hahnemann (G)
 MAN CITY: DeMarcus Beasley (M)
 BLACKBURN: Brad Friedel (G)
 EVERTON: Tim Howard (G)
 
 Not a bad weekend for US Soccer players in England...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 23, 2007, 10:40:00 am
almost as many american keepers in the epl as brits
 
 where's the manusa supporters reaction to last weekend's match?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 23, 2007, 01:22:00 pm
I'm not ready to talk about it yet.  I've been on the other end of those victories so many times, that I'm just not ready to accept it.  The last thing I would have thought would be United to take a 0-1 lead and lose 2-1, especially to Arsenal, known quitters.  A golden opportunity wasted.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 23, 2007, 01:25:00 pm
yeah, gutted
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 25, 2007, 10:12:00 am
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originially posted by vanchester united
 WEST HAM: Jonathon Spector (D)
 FULHAM: Carlos Bocanegra (D), Brian McBride (S), Clint Dempsey (M)
 READING: Bobby Convey (M), Marcus Hahnemann (G)
 MAN CITY: DeMarcus Beasley (M)
 BLACKBURN: Brad Friedel (G)
 EVERTON: Tim Howard (G)
 
 Not a bad weekend for US Soccer players in England...
looks like you might have to add:
 NEWCASTLE: Oguchi Onyewu (D)
 http://www.newcastleutd-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=321032 (http://www.newcastleutd-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=321032)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 25, 2007, 05:46:00 pm
Great signing for both Toon and him.  You've got holes and he needs the experience.  He's going to be a great defender one day.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 25, 2007, 06:19:00 pm
i've read since i posted that it might not be a done deal  :(
 
 pretty perfect if you ask me
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 25, 2007, 06:31:00 pm
I too saw that Roeder was downplaying it as he was discounting Gavrancic.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 25, 2007, 07:03:00 pm
would be a bummer if they dont bring anyone in
 
 but better than bringing in players that arent quality
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 28, 2007, 08:54:00 pm
Okay,my therapist said it would be okay to address my "issue" now....if arseholes keep sqeaking out these wins they may even make it into europe next season, and play such giants as FC Boratstan. 6 points out of 6 from United is pretty much grounds for suicide in my house.
 
 Hey at least that Freight train is still heading full speed through Stamford Bridge!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2007, 01:19:00 pm
ONYEWU TO FRANCE
 
 SAN FRANCISCO (SI.com) -- U.S. central defender Oguchi Onyewu is transferring to French club Olympique Marseille, according to a report in SoccerTimes.com.
 
 The 24-year-old, who has played for Belgian club Standard de Li√®ge since 2004, had been linked with some of the top teams in Europe, including Real Madrid, Chelsea, AC Milan and Lyon.
 
 Marseille will reportedly pay Standard a $4 million transfer fee.
 
 Earlier this month, Standard rejected a reported $2 million transfer fee from Premiership club Fulham, which would have reunited Onyewu with fellow Team USA members Brian McBride, Carlos Bocanegra and Clint Dempsey, all of whom play for Fulham.
 
 Standing 6-foot-4 and weighing 210 pounds, "Gooch" has developed a reputation as a big, bruising defender and was a key member of the United States' back line at the World Cup in Germany last summer. Following the tournament, the Washington, D.C.-area native turned down an offer to move to English club Middlesbrough.
 
 Onyewu was recently voted Athlete of the Year by the U.S. Soccer Federation. He made his first appearance for the U.S. national team in '04.
 
 Onyewu's arrival as a Team USA stalwart, however, was during a World Cup qualifying victory vs. Mexico in September '05 in Columbus, Ohio. Onyewu dominated Mexico's star striker, Jared Borgetti, helping the U.S. win that game 2-0 and clinch a spot in Germany '06 as a result.
 
 Marseille is one of the biggest and best-supported teams in France, and is the only French club to have won the European Champions League, in 1993. L'OM also has eight Ligue 1 titles and a record 10 French Cup titles to its credit, as well as a Champions League runner-up spot in '91 and two UEFA Cup runner-up spots.
 
 The club has hit a slump in recent years, however, failing to finish higher than third place in the French league since the '02-03 season. Marseille is currently in second place behind leader Lyon, and is nearing a purchase by Canadian businessman Jack Kachkar.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 29, 2007, 01:24:00 pm
he's supposedly at st james park getting a medical today, according to espn. weird
    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=405435&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=405435&cc=5901)
 edit: si has it too:  http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/01/29/bc.eu.spt.soc.newcastle.onyewu.ap/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/01/29/bc.eu.spt.soc.newcastle.onyewu.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2007, 02:00:00 pm
My source was an email sent to me over the weekend from an American living in Brussels.
 
 This should be interesting...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 29, 2007, 02:30:00 pm
sounds like he really wants to go to england. rumor is its a loan with first look to buy. supposedly piquionne from st etienne and ryan babel (!!!) from ajax are still in the mix strikerwise too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 30, 2007, 01:53:00 pm
Tomorrows a great day to call in sick:
 
 Tue, Jan 30
 
 2:30 Portsmouth v Middlesboro (FSC)
 2:30 Reading v Wigan (SetantaX)
 2:30 West Ham v Liverpool (Setanta)  
 
 Wednesday, Jan 31
 
 2:30 Newcastle v Aston Villa (SetantaX)
 2:30 Chelsea v Blackburn (FSC)  
 2:30 Arsenal v Spurs (Setanta)  
 
 5:00 Bolton v Charlton (FSC)  
 
 7:00 Man Utd v Watford (Setanta)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 30, 2007, 02:50:00 pm
i dont think newcastle is on fsc at all in feb   :mad:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 01, 2007, 04:08:00 pm
.....I wonder why!    :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 01, 2007, 04:53:00 pm
because fsc is in love with ass10 villa/west spam? surely 'pool/toon would bring in more viewers. you know that other sides have support in the u.s. other than the ones owned by doodles, right?   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 01, 2007, 06:00:00 pm
I think they're not putting Newcastle on telly because bottom of the table battles to avoid relegation don't get exciting until the last couple of weeks of the season.....
 
 BTW, this confirms that Lippi is the next chelski manager...
 
 Mourinho receives Chelsea backing  
 
 
 Chelsea have responded to claims they have lined up Marcello Lippi as their next manager with a public show of support for current boss Jose Mourinho.
 "No list of candidates has been drawn up to replace Jose Mourinho," said a Chelsea statement on Thursday.
 
 "Nobody from Chelsea has spoken to Mr Lippi or his representatives or indeed anyone regarding the manager's job.

 
 "As previously stated, Jose Mourinho has a contract until 2010 and has the support of everybody at Chelsea."
 
 
 ***He's so out of there come summer!***
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2007, 08:21:00 pm
Saturday, Feb 3
 
 7:45 Liverpool v Everton (Setanta)
 10:00 Fulham v Newcastle (SetantaX - replay on Set at 12:00)
 10:00 Charlton v Chelsea (Setanta)  
 10:00 Aston Villa v West Ham (FSC)
 12:00 Middlesboro v Arsenal (FSC)
 2:15 Man City v Reading (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, Feb 4
 
 11:00 Spurs v Man United (FSC)
 
 I must say, I'm more excited about the United game than the Super Bowl, yet I will likely watch it with a crowd of 3 and the Super bowl with a crowd of 20.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 01, 2007, 08:46:00 pm
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posted by mank
 bottom of the table battles to avoid relegation don't get exciting until the last couple of weeks of the season.....
right. which is why (next week) putting on liverpool (3rd) against newcastle (9th) would be a better match up with a larger audience than shef (16) vs spuds (10th)
 
 by your criteria, ass10/spammers (14 v 18) is the worst fixture of the week. jus sayin
 
 really, i just want logic of some sort for the last few months before i get direct tv
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2007, 08:57:00 pm
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Posted by God (sort of)[/b]
 really, i just want logic of some sort for the last few months before i get direct tv
How else you gonna watch the Pirates this year?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 02, 2007, 08:15:00 am
BTW....is hockey on ANY channel anymore? I couldn't even find the allstar game.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 02, 2007, 09:42:00 am
its on versus, which used to be outdoor life network. i think they have some nbc games too
 
 smack, i'm not much of a baseball fan, but buccos will be a bonus on top of the steelers, pens, and just about every newcastle game AND champions league/uefa cup for about the same as i pay now. sold
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2007, 02:36:00 pm
Onyewu looked good while his team did not.  I thought he even made Bramble look better, until Bramble clumsily tackled Helgerson and should have been sent off (Soccernet incorrectly reported that it was Onyewu, rather harshly I might add, when it was in fact Bramble).
 
 His massive size is going to turn some heads in the Premiereship.  He definitely pushed some folks around.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2007, 02:56:00 pm
Tuesday, Feb 6
 
 2:45pm Northern Ireland v Wales (freindly) [Set]
 
 
 Wednesday, Feb 7
 
 1:00 Egypt v Sweden (friendly) [Set]
 3:00 France vs Argentina (friendly) [Set]
 3:00 England v Spain (friendly) [FSC]
 3:00 San Marino vs Ireland (Euro Qualifier) [Set PPV]
 
 
 Thursday, Feb 8
 
 9:30pm San Marino vs Ireland (replay) [Set]
 
 For those that don't have DirecTV, Setanta has added a Broadband channel for $11.99 a month to watch matches that are only on Setanta.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 05, 2007, 02:57:00 pm
i listened to some of it on the internet, and it was the fulham feed. announcer was all over duff for diving. bramble is so terrible, and carr isnt much better. how they get put in there above solano and either huntington or edgar is nuts
 
 if both of them play against 'pool it will be a bloodbath
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 05, 2007, 02:59:00 pm
thanks for the heads up on the broadband thing. i was thinking of going to a bar to watch the match next week
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2007, 03:09:00 pm
oh, I almost forgot...
 
 Wednesday, Feb 7
 
 9:00 pm  USA v. Mexico (Friendly) [ESPN2]
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 05, 2007, 03:16:00 pm
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God's Shoeshine correctly noted[/b]
 Carr isn't much better
Carr was flicked away without much effort by Papa Bouba Diop to set up McBride's goal.  It really was like a boy against a man on that one.  Just silly.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on February 06, 2007, 04:45:00 pm
lordy lordy, Liverscum just got bought by the guy who gave A-Rod a $252 million contract and still pays $10 mill a year for him to play for the yankees....this should be hilarious
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 06, 2007, 09:11:00 pm
i'm trying to come up with a new name for them, but my best is doodlepool
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on February 07, 2007, 05:37:00 pm
and I thought the Cyprus result was bad.....JESUS FUCKING PETE ITS FUCKING SAN MARINO FOR CHRISTS SAKE!!!! If Staunton doesn't resign IMMEDIATELY after the game he doesn't have a shred of pride
 
 I don;t care if we managed to get the 3 points with the last kick of the game that was pathetic
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 08, 2007, 02:40:00 pm
*quote*i'm trying to come up with a new name for them, but my best is doodlepool *unquote*
 
 
 Here's a few for you.....
 SCUM
 TWATS
 SHYTE
 FILTH
 MAGGOTS
 
 
 No matter who owns them, ther're still, and always will be, LIVERSCUM.
 
 
 Bressner....ROI are not only suffering from a manager who is desperately out of his depth, they are also starving for talent at the moment, and probably will be for a few years I'm afraid. Just enjoy watching your rugby team sweep everyone aside.....I'm tempted to have a little flutter on them for the world cup.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 08, 2007, 03:19:00 pm
calm down manusa
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 10, 2007, 04:16:00 pm
I don't know which is funnier...Toon winning or scum losing.
 
 And what's this about the Colorado Arsenal??? Shouldn't they have linked up with a French team so their whole squad could go home for lunch every day?????
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2007, 12:15:00 am
doodlepool losing, as they are owned by americans.  :o  sorry i cant call them liverscum, scumderland already uses 'scum' better. or would that be worse
 
 the epl has such a hardon for america, makes sense for le arse to try and get in. no offense, but they are the least hated of the big 4 among other supporters
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 11, 2007, 08:00:00 pm
....and may I take this opportunity to thank chelski for making Man Utd not the most hated team in the epl for the first time in......like......FOREVER!.
 
 Nice to see arseholes squeaked out yet another one goal victory over a mid-table team...seems like they only get motivated when playing United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 11, 2007, 08:01:00 pm
....and may I take this opportunity to personally thank chelski for making Man Utd not the most hated team in the epl for the first time in......like......FOREVER!.
 
 Nice to see arseholes came from behind and squeaked out yet another one goal victory over a mid-table team...seems like they only get motivated when playing United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 15, 2007, 01:42:00 pm
FA CUP:
 
 Saturday, Feb. 17  
 
 7:30am Arsenal v. Blackburn (FSC)    
 10:00am Chelsea v. Norwich City (FSC)
 12:15pm Man Utd v Reading (PPV)
   
 Sunday, Feb. 18  
 
 8:00am Preston North End v. Manchester City (FSC)
 11:00am Fulham v Tottenham (PPV)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 19, 2007, 04:15:00 pm
Champions League Week:
 
 Tue, Feb 20
 
 2:30 PSV v Arsenal (ESPN2)
 2:30 Lille v Man United (Setanta)  
 5:00 Real Madrid v Bayern Munich (ESPN Classic/Delayed or Setanta)
 
 Wed, Feb 21
 
 2:30 FC Porto v Chelsea (ESPN2)
 2:30 Barcelona v Liverpool (Setanta)
 5:00 Barcelona v. Liverpool (ESPN Classic/Delayed)  
 5:00 Everton v Spurs (EPL-FSC/Delayed)
 5:00 Watford v Wigan (EPL-Setanta/Delayed)  
 9:00 Inter Milan v Valencia (Set/Delayed)
 
 
 Thu, Feb 22
 
 12:30 Blackburn v Bayer Leverkusen (UEFA -Setanta)
 3:30pm Celtic v AC Milan (CL - Set/Delayed)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: bigyellow100 on February 19, 2007, 05:19:00 pm
of all the uefa cl games this week the most intriguing has to be the manchester-lille match.  common sense would dictate that manchester is going to dominate, since they are a lot better this year in addition to the fact that lille is having a down year.  but then again, looking at the 4 previous games between the two teams(1-1-2), i wouldnt be surprised if this is an upset in the making.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 19, 2007, 06:00:00 pm
With Barcelona's recent poor performance, I am afraid Liverpool has a good chance of sending us home after this round. I hope Etoo is back, Messi will surely play both games, that's the only good news after losing to Valencia yesterday.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 19, 2007, 06:25:00 pm
i almost forgot that some of those cl matches are on regular tv. thanks for the reminder
 
 i thought sentena had all of the uefa cup matches. not that anyone who's side isnt in it cares
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 20, 2007, 01:07:00 pm
It must be your handsome lead because the Toon match isn't even on Setanta Premium (PPV):
 
 Thursday, Feb 22
 
 1:15pm UEFA Cup 2nd Leg: Dinamo Bucuresti v Benfica  
 
 
 3:05pm UEFA Cup 2nd Leg: Rangers v Hapoel Tel Aviv
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 20, 2007, 02:01:00 pm
apparently they are having trouble getting people to buy tickets
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 20, 2007, 06:44:00 pm
I don't know how many of you saw it, but Giggs clearly asked the ref if he had to wait for the whistle.  A small conversation ensued, which could presumably only have been about the wall not being 10 yards back.  Giggs must have said I don't care if the wall is ten yards back, the ref stepped away from the ball, raised his arm to allow the kick and Giggsy shocked the French squad into the open net.
 
 A cagey play by a heads up veteran, that made up for a terrible first half.  The French coaches pulling their squad off the pitch after the goal reminded me of why the French Army can't claim a military victory since Napoleon.  Pussies.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 21, 2007, 07:57:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  A cagey play by a heads up veteran, that made up for a terrible first half.  The French coaches pulling their squad off the pitch after the goal reminded me of why the French Army can't claim a military victory since Napoleon.  Pussies.
I'm just relieved that nobody got injured during the crushing incident in their le petite stadium!!
 
 Small teams like Lille, Monaco, chelski and Arsenal should not be allowed to play with the big boys in the biggest club competition in the world...at least arseholes are trying to do something about their stadium.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 21, 2007, 11:16:00 am
isnt lille playing somewhere temporary while their new stadium is being built? kinda unfair to lump chelski in with that, arse already moved...and they looked terrible yesterday. i was already for some good cl action when i got home
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 21, 2007, 11:27:00 am
Haven't seen yet the Lille Man.Utd. images on tv. Any link already on Youtube?
 
 As for today¬īs games, I think the Bar√ßa Liverpool should be a great game, afraid to death of Gerrard and worried over Etoo¬īs absence.  Also the Inter-Valencia is promising. Oporto Chelsea should be good as well.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on February 21, 2007, 11:52:00 am
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bIcgGP7WlFc (http://youtube.com/watch?v=bIcgGP7WlFc)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 21, 2007, 02:36:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  isnt lille playing somewhere temporary while their new stadium is being built?
Actually, in this case they opted to play the game in the Stade F√©lix-Bollaert instead of PSG's Stadium, Parc des Princes, the Stade de France, or Stade V√©lodrome all of which are better suited for Champions League play.  United complained about this, but UEFA ignored the complaint.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 21, 2007, 11:20:00 pm
I couldn't watch the game, but I think the Champions League is over for us. I haven't read any reviews, nothing, still too sad to read any newspaper, but all my respect for Liverpool, I guess they were better than us.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: bigyellow100 on February 22, 2007, 02:55:00 am
fuck manchester.  that game was given to them.  how that lille goal was disallowed was ridiculous.  vidic(?) took a dive and was not pushed by odemwinge...at least he wasnt pushed hard enough to fall like that.  isnt there something called "incidental contact" in soccer?  and gigg's goal was bullshit.  he was obviously talking to the ref while sylva was organizing the wall.  though it may have been "legal", it wasnt in good sportsmanship.  however, i think he still took it too early; a lot of arsenal's set pieces get called back because theyre taken too early.  
 
 man is lille pissed over this game.  the prez pretty much said that this game was fixed.
 
 as for all those security concerns, naturally, it was the manchester fans causing trouble.  like people dont throw shit anywhere else; and it was a very isolated incident at that. and the person who tried to rush the field was a manchester fan.
 
 lille operates on a budget of $40some million a year.  so theyre not going to have the best stadium, but they are building a new one.
 
 these uefa regulations are ridiculous, theyre just keeping the smaller teams down and protecting the more revenue-producing teams.  that way it would be hard for lille to have a real home advantage.  it is elitist and greatly hurts the game.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 22, 2007, 10:16:00 am
Oh dear, seems we have a sore loser here...are you an arseholes fan by chance?
 
 As for the fans, Manchester United have the best behaved fans in Europe....and the bloke who ran on the pitch was trying to get away from the crush, tear gas and night-sticks of the security....There should be a rule that if your mickey mouse team doesn't have a stadium that meets regulation you should not be allowed to compete in the competition. (that would include chelski though so I can't see it happening)
 
 Giggs asked if he could take the kick even though the wall was not 10 yards back, the ref put his arm up....the goal is scored, 1-0! Lille showed their lack of professionalism by not getting ready for the play and then walking off like cry-babies. No offense, this is the big league, not the MLS. As for the Lille goal, I didn't see it but Vidic is not one to go down, had it been Ronaldo I may listen to your bleating, but not Vidic....and why would a full back go down? It just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: bigyellow100 on February 22, 2007, 12:20:00 pm
hell yeah im a sore loser.  and im super sore because your team had to get extra help in order to beat my mickey mouse of a team.  theyre like those rich kids that get unlimited time on standardized tests because they are to stupid to read at a brisk pace.  
 
 as for the giggs goal.  yeah that shit happens a lot in the premiership, but dont a lot of the arsenal set pieces get called back because henry takes the kick too quickly?  yes they do.  that was a rhetorical question.  as for vidic.  why would he take a dive?  cause he dove for the header and whiffed.
 
 as for the security, again, it was mostly manchester fans getting fucked up and acting like fools before and during the game.  a couple of my friends who were there concede that though police force was excessive, police force was necessary to calm these clowns down.  instead of using batons, tear gas, and pepper spray, they couldve used just one.
 
 a little bit of this might be lens' fault for selling alcohol.  last year when the cl games for lille were played at the stade de france, they only served non-alcoholic beer.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 22, 2007, 12:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I couldn't watch the game, but I think the Champions League is over for us. I haven't read any reviews, nothing, still too sad to read any newspaper, but all my respect for Liverpool, I guess they were better than us.
Your back four were terrible.  You missed a few chances going forward, but your defense were full of holes.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 22, 2007, 01:02:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by bigyellow100:
  fuck manchester.  that game was given to them.  how that lille goal was disallowed was ridiculous.  vidic(?) took a dive and was not pushed by odemwinge
Really?  Seemed kind of odd that Odemwinge didn't argue at all after the push was called.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 22, 2007, 01:14:00 pm
maybe lille has more respect for the game than that
 
 wait
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 22, 2007, 01:18:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by bigyellow100:
  but dont a lot of the arsenal set pieces get called back because henry takes the kick too quickly?  yes they do.  that was a rhetorical question.  
Actually, I can only think of one, against Boro earlier this year, but that was because the ref was issuing a yellow card when Henry tried the quick kick.
 
 I do remember him scoring a goal on a quick free kick against Villa in 04.  He said he asked the ref if he could take it, the ref said sure and he scored.  When asked about it, he said I tried my luck because it's happened against me all the time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 22, 2007, 01:34:00 pm
:roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 26, 2007, 04:33:00 pm
Thoughts on the Carling Cup Final....
 
 Might be the best game I've seen this year.  Arsenal's future has me very concerned.  Thankfully, their sissy manager will still be there assuring the team will implode like we saw on Sunday.
 
 Jorge Fabergas needs to grow up.  Quickly.  And he may want to mention to Van Persie to do the same thing.  Actually, the whole lot of them...
 
 Arsenal took three quick free kicks, none of which were called back (once the ball never even stopped rolling and nearly led to a goal).
 
 I thought John Terry's playing career was over when I saw him posturing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abnormal_posturing) after the kick to the head.  Amazing.
 
 
 FA Cup this week
 
 Tue.  Feb. 27  
 
 3pm Reading v Manchester United (FSC)    
 
 Wed.  Feb. 28  
 
 3pm Blackburn v Arsenal (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 27, 2007, 11:36:00 am
....was that this weekend?.....  :roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: on February 27, 2007, 11:45:00 am
Arse & all
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on February 27, 2007, 12:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Just enjoy watching your rugby team sweep everyone aside.....I'm tempted to have a little flutter on them for the world cup.
well we stumbled badly against France but Saturday against England was one of the most amazing sporting occasions I have ever witnessed - this photo pretty much sums it up
  <img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/404691984_6f133e10fd.jpg?v=0" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 28, 2007, 08:31:00 am
In rugby there's no sore losers...excuses...whinging.
 
 Ireland are a far superior team than England right now, and probably any other team for that matter. I just hope you can stuff the spearing all blacks when you cross paths. Do it for 'Driso'
 
 All England fans have to hold on to is that we are the world cup holders, although I hope they're keeping it nice and shiney for the next winners!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 02, 2007, 02:55:00 pm
Saturday, Mar 3
 
 07:45 Liverpool v Man United (Setanta)
 10:00 Newcastle v Boro (FSC)  
 10:00 Arsenal v Reading (Setanta)  
 12:00 Pompey v Chelsea (FSC)  
 14:15 Man City v Wigan (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, Mar 4
 
 08:30 Bolton v Blackburn (Setanta)  
 11:00 West Ham v Spurs (FSC)  
 
 The first one will pretty much set the tone for my weekend.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 02, 2007, 03:04:00 pm
pretend derby day
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 03, 2007, 05:25:00 pm
HERE WE GO HERE WE GO HERE WE GO'O'O'O!!!!
 
 ONE-NIL..ONE-NIL...ONE-NI'I'I'L
 
 IN YOUR LIVERPOOL HOME,
 YOU LOOK IN THE DUSTBIN FOR SOMETHING TO EAT,
 YOU FIND A DEAD RAT AND YOU THINK IT'S A TREAT,
 YOU'RE THE DIRTIEST BASTARD I EVER DID MEET,
 IN YOUR LIVERPOOL HOME.....
 
 OH IT'S ALL GONE QUIET OVER THERE....OH IT'S ALL GONE QUIET OVER THERE...OH IT'S ALL GONE QUIET, ALL GONE QUIET, ALL GONE QUIET OVER THERE....!!!
 
 OH I'D RATHER BE A SPASTIC THAN A SCOUSE
 YES I WOULD
 I TRULY WOULD
 IF I ONLY COU'U'U'LD

 
 Phew....lucky to get away with 1 point, let alone 3!!!
 
 Hey Chelski......start polishing that premiership trophy before heads back to it's rightful home up north!!!!
 
    :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 04, 2007, 08:54:00 pm
Johnny O'shea gave me the best birthday present of them all!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 05, 2007, 04:41:00 pm
More Champions League Football this week.
 
 Tuesday, Mar 6
 
 2:30 Chelsea v Porto (Setanta)  
 2:30 Liverpool v Barca (ESPN2)  
 5:00 Chelsea v. Porto Replay (ESPN Classic)
 5:00 Lyon v AS Roma Delayed (Setanta)
 
 Wednesday, Mar 7
 
 2:30 Arsenal v PSV (Setanta)  
 2:30 Man United v Lille (ESPN2)
 5:00 Bayern Munich v. Real Madrid Delayed (ESPN Classic & Setanta)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on March 05, 2007, 04:50:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Johnny O'shea gave me the best birthday present of them all!
twas a wonderful moment....made all the more special by the obnoxious Pool supported surrounding me in the bar
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 05, 2007, 05:59:00 pm
<img src="http://woodcotesrfc.intheteam.com/site/images/3259/scouser.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 05, 2007, 06:02:00 pm
The Kop couldn't believe it when O'Shea scored the winner.....
 
  <img src="http://users.ox.ac.uk/~univ1498/scouser~.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 06, 2007, 04:39:00 pm
1-0 1-0 1-0 Come on Porto....Come on Porto!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 06, 2007, 04:53:00 pm
Sorry.  Can't check this topic for the rest of the afternoon. I wasn't able to leave work for the match.  I'll be back this evening.
 
 The same will likely go for tomorrow too.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 06, 2007, 05:52:00 pm
That blows...both scum and chelski go through.  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 06, 2007, 06:24:00 pm
Ok, time to be depressed until next September. Congratulations to Liverpool, really strong team, we lost it in the first game in Barcelona. Even though we are playing Madrid this weekend, it is really difficult to watch football now. England now has by far the best and most competitive league in Europe.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 06, 2007, 06:39:00 pm
Barca will probably struggle against Madrid after that loss. It's going to be hard for them to get upbeat and motivated after going out of the Champs League. The timing for that match couldn't be worse.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 06, 2007, 07:22:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Barca will probably struggle against Madrid after that loss. It's going to be hard for them to get upbeat and motivated after going out of the Champs League. The timing for that match couldn't be worse.
Actually Madrid might be out of the Champions League tomorrow. The best teams in Spain now are Sevilla and Valencia. Madrid is in a transition phase, although only buying really old players, so it's going to take a lot of years for them to be back in track. Barcelona... not sure, maybe a lack of motivation this season after winning the CL last year and after the world cup fiasco for Ronaldinho and the rest of the team. Maybe we need to focus on the spanish league this year and start well in September.
 
 Good luck tomorrow with Lille, although you are almost there. Please beat Chelsea in the next round. And be aware of Valencia, strong team.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: bigyellow100 on March 07, 2007, 12:59:00 am
ha.  lyon choked so badly today.  congrats to liverpool, though they probably shouldve won that game.  
 
 allez le losc.  oh god i hope manchester loses.  please god.  i want to see them cry.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 07, 2007, 01:15:00 pm
While Liverpool clearly outplayed Barca in the first half, they didn't do a whole lot to help themselves out.  One goal would have made all the difference, but for the noninterested observer, it made the second half all the more exciting.  Yet, I must say their back four were as equally up to the task as at they were against United on Saturday.  They just need to learn to finish.  No matter who they draw, they will sorely miss Sisssoko for the first leg.  And Barca, I agree with others on here - they simply seem distracted.
 
 Helton's gaff was one of the worst I've seen in the Porto match and really turned the tide of the match.  Porto were believing up to that point, and then everyone knew it was a matter of time before Chelsea got the second goal.  Too bad - I think if he saves that Porto had a real chance.  I did love the sign about Mourinho and if he really wanted to win the Champions League he should return to Portugal.
 
 Valencia do scare me, although we didn't get that match here - would have loved to see what the fracas was about.  We had Roma-Lyon and, yep, Lyon did choke.  When Totti scored early, you could see the wind come out of their sails.  Wasn't even worth watching after that.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 07, 2007, 03:33:00 pm
Oh God....Fergie's at it again. Giggsy on the bench. Why does he do this to us? Just field your best team, get a couple of goals ahead then pull your top players off and hold on to the lead...he always has to do it the other way round.
 
 I'm not 100% confident....99%, but not 100%, because Lille are under no pressure and on a revenge mission because they feel cheated from the last game, even though they weren't.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2007, 11:21:00 am
....and another season with an empty trophy cabinet at Mecca stadium. HA HA HAHAHA, rough couple of weeks for the arseholes.
 
 Oh well, at least all the English teams made it to the last eight.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 08, 2007, 12:54:00 pm
Oy Mank.  I agree with your thoughts on the squad Fergie put out there.  I thought Slyvestre over Heinze was nearly as shocking as Giggs.  Rooney looked lost on the left and Ronaldo just as lost on the right.  Made no sense.  I did think O'Shea was unusually strong defensively, but was useless going forward (save for set pieces).  
 
 After watching Larsson for the last three weeks, I wasn't thinking his departure was going to be as bad as everybody says it is (recent injuries notwithstanding) because he opened with a bang, but has been quiet lately, but after seeing his run on the goal, it makes sense.  How many other strikers would have kept running and been too close to the net? I'm guessing every other United striker at least.  Nonetheless, we're into the last 8, and I'm looking forward to a Smith Rooney pairing up front soon in the FA Cup and Premiereship (two animals on the loose ball), but I'm not sure they will be what United needs to win in Europe.  Does Fergie ask Larsson to stay now with Saha out 4 weeks and Ole out 3?
 
 Arseholes, arseholes, arseholes....they did little to help their cause.  Good for PSV.  I've always been a fan.  That placed emptied out after Alex's (second) goal.  That was fun to watch.
 
 Real looked just as distracted as Barca did the night before, but that didn't stop the Bayern fans from enjoying themselves - what a crowd.  The early goal made the next 50 minutes tough to watch, but the last 15-20 were some really exciting football.  The penalty was a ridiculously bad call and made Ronaldo's booking in the United game look like a high school play compared to the academy award performance by Robinho.  I did enjoy the ref sending off Van Bommel and Dairra for being girls.  Only in Europe do you see something that pathetic... I also enjoyed the announcers noting after the game the symbolism between the old United player (Ruud) exchanging kits with the future United player (Hargreaves).  Hmmm....
 
 I didn't get the chance to watch the AC Milan-Celtic match yet, but I do feel for The Bhoys.  Valliant effort.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2007, 01:17:00 pm
I really couldn't give a toss about Celtic...there's no place for sectarianism in sports and that's what Scottish football is all about. If Celtic were in the premiership they'd be lower to mid-table anyway.
 
 Rooney definately looked lost on the left. He's at his best in the middle just behind the striker running head on at the defence. I thought Scholsey was our best player on the night. And what's with all this passing back to the goalie?? That was totally against United's usual style of play. I thought overall it was a disapointing display from United, but they're in the last eight and that's all that matters at the end of the day.
 
 I think Larson is going home to be with his family, which is fair enough.
 
 We should have three animals on the field on Saturday, Rooney, Smith and Heinze...put Ronaldo and Park on the wings and Boro won't be able to handle that speed. Why Heinze has been on the bench for so long is baffling anyway, he's probably the best back in the premiership, and puts the fear of God in any striker..BTW, I would've given Heinze the number 57, but that's just me.
 
 Well, we're still on for the treble and arseholes are on for NOT A BLOODY THING!!!   :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 09, 2007, 08:39:00 am
Quarter-final draw
 AC Milan v Bayern Munich
 PSV Eindhoven v LIVERPOOL
 Roma v MANCHESTER UNITED
 CHELSEA v Valencia
 
 (First legs to be played on 3/4 April and second legs on 10/11 April)
 
 Semi-final draw
 CHELSEA or Valencia v PSV Eindhoven or LIVERPOOL
 Roma or MANCHESTER UNITED v AC Milan or Bayern Munich
 
 (First legs to be played on 24/25 April and second legs on 1/2 May)
 
 Interesting draw.....PSV are the darkhorse imho. I'd like to see Rooney/Ronaldo/Smith to get some match time before the next round. Can you imagine being a back and having to look at Rooney and Smith coming at you???   :eek:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 09, 2007, 10:04:00 am
hopefully we'll get the roma match here   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 09, 2007, 02:21:00 pm
FA CUP QUARTERFINALS
 
 Saturday, March 10
 
 10:00am Man United vv Middlesbrough (PPV)
 
 Sunday, March 11
 
 9:00am Chelsea v Tottenham (PPV)
 12:00pm  Blackburn v Manchester City (FSC)  
 2:00pm Plymouth Argyle v Watford (FSC)    
 
 Reminder: Daylight Time starts this Sunday
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 09, 2007, 04:34:00 pm
United, Spurs, Blackburn and Watford to go through...what do you think?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 09, 2007, 05:22:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  United, Spurs, Blackburn and Watford to go through...what do you think?
Tottenham going through without Robbie Keane?  Bold statement.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 11, 2007, 11:54:00 am
DAMN THEM...DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!!!  :mad:  HOW CAN SPURS LET THE TWATS COME BACK FROM 3-1 DOWN....SCREW ENTERTAINMENT, I WOULD'VE PUT 11 PLAYERS BEHIND THE BALL AND SHUT UP SHOP...DAMN THEM...JUST DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!!!!  :mad:  
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 13, 2007, 12:04:00 pm
Wednesday, March 14
 
 4:00 Aston Villa v Arsenal (Setanta)  
 4:00 Man City v Chelsea (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on March 24, 2007, 09:56:00 am
i was planning on hitting a bar today to catch the euro qualifying matches until someone in my group found out:
 
 > Bad news: Lucky Bar (and all the other bars in the area that are
 > showing the games via Setanta Sports <- hated money-grabbing
 > broadcaster) are charging a $20 cover to see the England game and the
 > Ireland game. This is mandated by Setanta unfortunately - doesn't seem
 > to be a way out of it. Also, the bars' schedules do not include Greece
 > v Turkey! (which, given the Turkish support in our ranks, is clearly
 > unacceptable)
 >
 > I've exchanged voicemails with Lucky's owner to see if he might be
 > persuaded to change his mind for a large group. I also tried Summers,
 > Fado, Solly's and Duffy's in NW DC - all either have the cover or
 > aren't showing any football.
 
 so in the end we've pooled our money and bought a subscription to Setenta so we can watch it at a friend's place... what a  crock (http://www.luckybardc.com/soccer.asp).  $20?!?  for a soccer game?!?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on March 24, 2007, 10:19:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by sweetcell:
  i was planning on hitting a bar today to catch the euro qualifying matches until someone in my group found out:
 so in the end we've pooled our money and bought a subscription to Setenta so we can watch it at a friend's place... what a  crock (http://www.luckybardc.com/soccer.asp).  $20?!?  for a soccer game?!?
this unfortunately is SOP for most rugby and soccer internationals...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 24, 2007, 11:42:00 am
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but Setanta 'force' bars to charge a $20 cover to watch the game in the bar if said bar is using Setanta? Who gets the $20, and is that even legal?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on March 26, 2007, 12:45:00 am
yup, according to my friend who spoke with the owner/manager of lucky bar, the money does indeed all go to setenta... in fact they were threatening to send their own person to work the door and collect $$$.
 
 in honour of england's stellar performance against the power-house of international soccer that is israel:
 
  <img src="http://www.toilette-humor.com/images/funny_cat_problem.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 26, 2007, 08:38:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by sweetcell:
 
 in honour of england's stellar performance against the power-house of international soccer that is israel:
 
   <img src="http://www.toilette-humor.com/images/funny_cat_problem.jpg" alt=" - " />
It's England...what were you expecting? An England team to play up to it's full potential!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 26, 2007, 12:27:00 pm
who cares? fox soccer channel had ESTONIA vs RUSSIA
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 26, 2007, 01:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by sweetcell:
  yup, according to my friend who spoke with the owner/manager of lucky bar, the money does indeed all go to setenta... in fact they were threatening to send their own person to work the door and collect $$$.
They used to send their own person to Lucky Bar all the time.  After becoming a regular and not having to pay at the bar, when the Setanta guy was there, I'd have to go in the back door.
 
 Here's how it works: Setanta doesn't charge the bar for the games, they charge $20 a head and the bar makes money on the food and beverage service.
 
 But for $15 a month with D*TV, I now just have interested folks come to my place to watch the matches.  This week, however, England was PPV for $25, making the bar trip cheaper.   Fortunately, I know England are now crap and saved the $20, downloaded the match using Bit Torrent when it was over and was quite glad about my decision.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 26, 2007, 01:34:00 pm
So if I have Setanta at home and having some mates round to watch the match...how many can I have before the Setanta bloke comes round collecting $20 from everyone?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 26, 2007, 03:12:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  So if I have Setanta at home and having some mates round to watch the match...how many can I have before the Setanta bloke comes round collecting $20 from everyone?
No more than 5.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 29, 2007, 05:13:00 pm
Vice captain Rosicky earns £25,000 fineDale Johnson
 
 Arsenal star Tomas Rosicky and five of his Czech Republic team-mates landed the whole squad a ¬£25,000 fine from the Czech FA after spending a night in a hotel with six prostitutes.
   
 It was revealed on Monday that the players had been fined after indulging in a wild party following the team's 2-1 defeat to Germany in a Euro 2008 qualifier. But the full extent of the revelry has only just emerged.
 
 A female Czech journalist broke the story after she had visited the hotel room herself as an autograph hunter. Players 'drank and hugged prostitutes' while she spoke to Jan Polak at the room door.
 
 Rosicky, along with Martin Jiranek, Tomas Ujfalusi, Polak and Marek Cech, managed to get the girls into their hotel by telling team officials that the girls were 'autograph hunters'. They also claimed they had been celebrating Ujfalusi's birthday.
 
 Rosicky apologised for his actions at a press conference. He said: 'We have been correctly punished. We are very sorry.' However, he said he had a 'clear conscience' when asked about the presence of the prostitutes.
 
 His girlfriend, Radka Kocurova, may have a few additional questions. She said: said: 'I have read what was in the papers. All I will say is no comment.' Ujfalusi, Cech and Polak are actually married.
 
 'Because the celebration was conducted in an inappropriate way, which does not fall in line with the behaviour of Czech Republic national team members, the whole team was punished by a one-million-crown fine,' the Czech FA said in a statement.
 
 Coach Karel Brueckner was quoted by news agency CTK as saying it was the worst disciplinary offence he had experienced and that it briefly made him consider resigning.
 
 Tabloid daily Sip reported on Monday that the six players had held a party in a room at the Praha hotel until at least 5.30am. The players, who will share the cost of the fine among the whole team, admitted having a late party.
 
 The Czechs lost 2-1 to Germany on Saturday after a weak performance that sparked wide criticism of the team and Brueckner.
 
 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=417390&cc=% (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=417390&cc=%)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 29, 2007, 05:21:00 pm
Saturday, Mar 31
 
 07:45 Liverpool v Arsenal (Setanta)  
 10:00 Fulham v Pompey (FSC)  
 10:00 Newcastle v Man City (SetantaX/Replay on SET at 5:15)  
 10:00 Man United v Blackburn (Setanta)
 12:00 Watford v Chelsea (FSC)
 2:15 West Ham v Boro (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, Apr 1
 
 11:00 Spurs v Reading (FSC)
 
 Mon, Apr 2
 
 3:00 Aston Villa v Everton (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 29, 2007, 07:41:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Vice captain Rosicky earns ¬£25,000 fineDale Johnson
 
 Arsenal star Tomas Rosicky and five of his Czech Republic team-mates landed the whole squad a ¬£25,000 fine from the Czech FA after spending a night in a hotel with six prostitutes.
   
 
Well that blows my theory....I guess Arseholes aren't a bunch of homo's after all.
 
 (no offense intended to gay guys, it's just a figure of speech)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 30, 2007, 09:57:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 10:00 Newcastle v Man City (SetantaX/Replay on SET at 5:15)  
 
see you all at the bar
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 30, 2007, 10:07:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 10:00 Newcastle v Man City (SetantaX/Replay on SET at 5:15)  
 
see you all at the bar [/b]
Be sure to take a good book with you...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 30, 2007, 01:03:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 10:00 Newcastle v Man City (SetantaX/Replay on SET at 5:15)  
 
see you all at the bar [/b]
You just gotta move out west - I'd watch that with you!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 30, 2007, 01:15:00 pm
well, i havent left the house to watch newcastle in awhile, should be interesting. i'd much rather watch it on a couch. it might make me feel less self concious about yelling at a tv
 
 i guess mankie only finds interest in american owned teams
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 30, 2007, 02:58:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 i guess mankie only finds interest in winning teams that play exciting attacking football, and that have actually won some silverware since WW2
True, very true!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 30, 2007, 04:21:00 pm
No more FSC FA Cup startin 08/09.
 
 Updated: March 30, 2007
 
 ITV and Setanta link-up lands ¬£425m FA deal
 
 Football Association chief executive Brian Barwick has confirmed the television rights for England and FA Cup matches have been awarded to ITV and Setanta Sports starting in the 2008-09 season.
   
 The new deal comes after the FA's partners since 2001 BBC and Sky were outbid for the package, which takes effect from August next year and will run until July 2012.
 
 It will generate ¬£425million for the FA over the four-year term - a 30% increase from the current ¬£300million agreement with BBC and Sky.
 
 FA chief executive Brian Barwick said: 'We are delighted to have concluded a four-year deal with the two companies. It is a deal that starts from August 1 2008 and is worth in the region of ¬£425million. It is an increase on our current deal of ¬£125m and a 42% increase on that previous deal.
 
 'It means a ¬£31m increase for the FA which gives us chance to invest in the game again in a bigger way
 
 'We will have in excess of ¬£100m a year to put back into football.'
 
 Barwick added: 'It gives us the chance to extend the message of football as wide as possible and give everyone a chance to enjoy the game.
 
 'For viewers we have ensured key FA Cup and England games get free-to-air coverage. That was essential to us and we have delivered on it.
 
 'We have been able to extend coverage - we have asked both broadcasters to look at the amateur game and make sure there is coverage of that.
 
 'ITV are proven deliverers of good football products. They were there at the inception of the Champions League in 1992 and Setanta are new kids on the block.'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 30, 2007, 04:39:00 pm
goddamn it. really have to get the dish now
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 03, 2007, 02:46:00 pm
Today
 
 AC Milan - Bayern Munich  
 PSV Eindhoven - Liverpool
 
 Wednesday
 
 Chelsea - Valencia
 Roma - Manchester United
 
 Thought it was going to be difficult to follow it after the upset against Liverpool, but such a great competition that I am already looking forward to the games this week. I hope Mourinho is out of the Champions League in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on April 03, 2007, 05:28:00 pm
Liverpool 3 - PSV 0
 AC Milan 2 - Bayern Munich 2
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 03, 2007, 05:35:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
  Liverpool 3 - PSV 0
 AC Milan 2 - Bayern Munich 2
Looks like scum are through to the semis. In all fairness they're probably the team to beat.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 04, 2007, 02:41:00 am
The penalty awarded to Milan only further confirms that Italian squads buy off the refs.  the most blatantly bad call I've seen in the Champions League.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 04, 2007, 07:24:00 am
I don't doubt it still goes on in Italy...that's why I'm concerned about the Roma draw. The irony of it all though is the world's greatest and only totally un-biased ref is Italian.
 
  <img src="http://www.thefa.com/NR/rdonlyres/7ECCA8C6-ACBE-4533-B46F-B5188C8E0A65/0/Collina_med.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 04, 2007, 09:11:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  The penalty awarded to Milan only further confirms that Italian squads buy off the refs.  the most blatantly bad call I've seen in the Champions League.
wasn't there a clear penalty to Kaka in the first half that the referee didn't see and a goal anulled for an offisde that didn't exist, also for Milan? That's what I recall from seeing a summary of the game last night. I think the referee's mistakes ended up helping more Bayern Munich than Milan.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 04, 2007, 12:47:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  wasn't there a clear penalty to Kaka in the first half that the referee didn't see and a goal anulled for an offisde that didn't exist, also for Milan?
A clear penalty?  I certainly don't think so.  If anything, there was slight touch, but nothing I would call clear.  Milan scored on the resulting corner kick anyway.
 
 I also thought the offside was close enough to call offsides.
 
 But my point is this, even if you screw up in the first half (which he didn't), you don't make something up in the 84th minute to make amends unless you're paid to do so.  You just don't.  Kaka didn't even think it was a penalty.  He was heading to the corner to take the corner kick before somebody told him that he was awarded a penalty!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 04, 2007, 02:51:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  wasn't there a clear penalty to Kaka in the first half that the referee didn't see and a goal anulled for an offisde that didn't exist, also for Milan?
A clear penalty?  I certainly don't think so.  If anything, there was slight touch, but nothing I would call clear.  Milan scored on the resulting corner kick anyway.
 
 I also thought the offside was close enough to call offsides.
 
 But my point is this, even if you screw up in the first half (which he didn't), you don't make something up in the 84th minute to make amends unless you're paid to do so.  You just don't.  Kaka didn't even think it was a penalty.  He was heading to the corner to take the corner kick before somebody told him that he was awarded a penalty! [/b]
You said that Italian teams buy referees. I think that if this was the case in this game, he wouldn't have doubted about the first penalty (it doesn't matter at all whether the goal came after that corner) and he would have awarded the offside goal and avoided the yellow card to the Milan player, whom I believe will miss the game in Germany (I think the same thing happened with Lucio in Bayern). I just saw the video in youtube and I have changed my mind, the referee didn't help either team, the offside goal was good, if he had been bought by the Italians, the score would have been 2-0 in the early second half.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRgwsycOJ4k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRgwsycOJ4k)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on April 04, 2007, 04:58:00 pm
Chelsea 1 - Valencia 1
 Roma 2 - ManU 1
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 05, 2007, 07:12:00 am
Evidently the ref was totally biased in Roma's favor...although Scholsey's sending off was legit. I didn't see the game but a scouse mate did and told me this....and a scouse would not make excuses for United I can guarantee you. 2-1 down and a second leg at O.T. I would've taken that before the game so quite happy with the result. An away goal was vital.
 
 I pity the Roma fans on the return leg when my Salford boys get hold of them. Actually, that's not true, I hope they get a good old mancunian welcome!   ;)  Do they not realize it's Man Utd they're fucking with???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on April 05, 2007, 07:33:00 am
Eric Wynalda Interview (http://www.fulhamusa.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=498&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 05, 2007, 10:46:00 am
clearly the only reason manusa would EVER lose is because of paid off refs
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 05, 2007, 11:00:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  clearly the only reason manusa would EVER lose is because of paid off refs
Obviously you're an ignorant knobhead when it comes to the beautiful game...if a person from LIVERPOOL is saying the ref was biased against MANCHESTER united, then there must be a strong case for it. Not to mention it was already proved that Italian football is corrupt from top to bottom.
 
 Nobody said he was paid off, just biased.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 05, 2007, 11:11:00 am
both manure fans on this board gave the 'refs are biased/paid off toward italy' before the match was even paid, and you didnt even watch it yourself. you took the readymade excuse because a liverpool fan told you it was so. cmon now
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 05, 2007, 11:23:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  both manure fans on this board gave the 'refs are biased/paid off toward italy' before the match was even paid, and you didnt even watch it yourself. you took the readymade excuse because a liverpool fan told you it was so. cmon now
Actually, I was talking about the ref in the Bayern match, not the Man U match, and I said it mostly out of the horrible call in the 84th minute.  I'm always suspect about blatantly bad calls late in the match.
 
 I certainly didn't think the ref in the Roma match was paid off, but I certainly didn't think he did a fair job either, especially in the first 30 minutes or so.  I for one, was actually pleased when Scholesy was sent off, because he was the last person on United's squad (as usual)to realize the ref was calling United much tighter than Roma, and was consistently giving away free kicks inside 25 yards.  I figured a 0-0 draw was better than 3-0 Roma on free kicks.  Such a pleasure to get that away goal with 10 men!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 05, 2007, 11:39:00 am
i dont like blaming refs for losses in any sport. but i'm not going to feel sorry for a side that's going to win the prem, is still in the fa cup and the cl and has lost twice in 3 months. mank makes fun of me anytime i bring up my side, so of course i'm going to zong him when he complains about refs in a match he didnt even watch, not to mention that man u got a not-terrible result
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 05, 2007, 11:45:00 am
Hey...no worries....I give it and can sure as hell take it.  :)
 
 In all seriousness though, all English teams get a rough time in Europe from the refs, because we play, well, the man's version of the game. What is not even a foul in the premiership is a yellow card offense in Italy because you caused Totti's tailor made jersey to crease or something.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 05, 2007, 11:58:00 am
you'll get no argument on that from me
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 06, 2007, 12:36:00 pm
Friday, April 6
 
 12:10 Man City v Charlton (Setanta)
 2:30 Everton v Fulham (FSC)
 
 Saturday, April 7
 
 7:45 Chelsea v Spurs (Setanta)  
 10:00 SheffU v Newcastle (SetantaX)
 10:00 Arsenal v West Ham (Setanta)
 10:00 Reading v Liverpool (FSC)  
 12:15 Pompey v Man U (FSC)
 2:15 Wigan v Bolton (FSC)  
 
 Monday, April 9
 
 7:30 Watford v Portsmouth (Set)
 10:00 Newcastle United v Arsenal (Set)
 10:00 Fulham v Manchester City (FSC)
 12:00 Aston Villa v Wigan (FSC)  
 2:30 Bolton v Everton (Set)
 3:00 Charlton v Reading (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on April 06, 2007, 03:00:00 pm
Finally get to see a game with filled with great Americans on FSC in the Everton v. Fulham game.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Venerable Bede on April 06, 2007, 04:41:00 pm
Kroenke buys stake in Arsenal
 
 By PAT GRAHAM, AP Sports Writer
 April 5, 2007
 
 AP - Apr 5, 3:31 pm EDT
 
 DENVER (AP) -- Colorado businessman Stan Kroenke bought a 9.99 percent stake in London's Arsenal soccer team from the British television network ITV.
 
 Kroenke, a real estate developer who owns the Denver Nuggets, the Colorado Avalanche and the Colorado Rapids of Major League Soccer, said Thursday that he also entered into "conditional arrangements" with ITV involving the sale of ITV's 50 percent share in Arsenal Broadband Limited.
 
 The total value of the deals would be approximately $128.1 million, Kroenke's company said in a statement.
 
 A spokesman for Kroenke Sports Enterprises wouldn't comment on whether Kroenke would attempt to buy Arsenal outright down the road.
 
 "It's always been our policy not to speculate on any investments," said Paul Andrews, executive vice president and chief marketing officer for Kroenke Sports. "We hold pretty tight to that policy."
 
 Kroenke Sports announced in February it had formed a marketing alliance with the Arsenal club to exchange business, commercial and marketing information, and share coaching and training philosophies.
 
 "We really have a tremendous amount of respect for Arsenal and the way they manage their team," Andrews said.
 
 Andrews said the marketing alliance led to Kroenke's interest in Arsenal.
 
 "It's fair to say he was impressed with them and made this investment due to the respect he gained in that process," Andrews said.
 
 Andrews wouldn't comment on whether the Rapids planned to change their name to Arsenal.
 
 When the marketing alliance was announced, Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger insisted it did not mean Kroenke was buying the London team.
 
 "(The deal) is not for a takeover," Wenger said in February. "There are enough Americans in the league now."
 
 Kroenke, who is also a co-owner of the St. Louis Rams, is the latest American businessman to invest in a European soccer team.
 
 Tom Hicks and George Gillette Jr. recently completed their takeover of the Liverpool soccer team. Hicks owns baseball's Texas Rangers and the NHL's Dallas Stars, and Gillette owns the NHL's Montreal Canadiens.
 
 Tampa Bay Buccaneers owner Malcolm Glazer controls Manchester United, and Cleveland Browns owner Randy Lerner took over Aston Villa this season.
 
 The Rapids will open the MLS season Saturday against D.C. United in Dick's Sporting Goods Park, a new 18,000-seat soccer complex in the Denver area that includes 24 lighted fields and is one of the largest soccer parks in the world.
 
 Updated on Thursday, Apr 5, 2007 6:18 pm EDT
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 09, 2007, 08:50:00 am
With their stadium sponsored by a known sporting goods store why don't they call themselves the "Denver Dicks"
 
 Why do I hate it when they refer to teams such as "the liverpool soccer team" or 'London's arsenal soccer team", but it's intersting Manchester United need no description.  :)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2007, 01:17:00 pm
Tuesday, Apr 10
 
 2:30 Man United v Roma (ESPN2)
 5:00 Valencia v Chelsea (ESPN Classic - Delayed)
 
 Wednesday, Apr 11
 
 2:30 Bayern Munich v AC Milan (ESPN2)
 5:00 Liverpool v PSV (ESPN Classic - Delayed)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2007, 01:39:00 pm
Fans clash with police at Man Utd  
 
 Police quickly calmed the situation
 Police and Roma supporters have been involved in a minor scuffle outside Old Trafford ahead of the Champions League match against Manchester United.
 
 "There are lots of security personnel and extra police cars and vans around the stadium," he said.
 
 "It has been classified as a Category C match which is the highest alert there is for a match at Old Trafford. It is on a par with a home match against Liverpool."
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6538695.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6538695.stm)
 
 I'm sure uefa will find a way to blame the English team even though the united fans are still in the pub.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2007, 02:18:00 pm
Anybody see the full text of the interview with Eric Wynalda that got him a 2 week suspension?
 
 Awesome.
 
 Part One (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=510888)
 
 Part Two (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511336)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2007, 02:26:00 pm
WOW! Smudger starts is first match in 15 months...a big game to get a start but if anyone has passion it's Alan Smith. Smith and Rooney up front is enough to make any defense nervous.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2007, 03:12:00 pm
3-0 3-0 Only 20 minutes gone, and here's me at work. I hope some kind soul on this board is recording it on dvd and will take pity on poor old mank stuck here in 'rainy'...yes 'rainy' west palm beach!! I'll pay for postage.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 10, 2007, 03:22:00 pm
And Mourinho is losing!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2007, 03:40:00 pm
A good day all round really. 4-0 up at halftime and Morono 45 minutes away from elimination.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 10, 2007, 03:41:00 pm
wow, just wow
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 10, 2007, 03:43:00 pm
haha, i just checked the score and came right here
 
 i blame the refs  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2007, 03:44:00 pm
Surprising what happens with an impartial ref!
 
 I've got live text going on three different websites and the ref has not been mentioned once on any of them.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 10, 2007, 04:07:00 pm
6-0
 
 some are already calling it the best performance ever by a british club in europe.....not that pool fans would ever agree with that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 10, 2007, 04:35:00 pm
god I hate chelski
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2007, 05:11:00 pm
Finished 7-1.  Truly remarkable.
 
 As good as I've seen United in years.  Darren Fletcher was as good as I've ever seen him, reminiscent of, dare I say it, Roy Keane in the holding midfield position.  Fletcher and Smith never stopped chasing the ball...
 
 Whether you got in a fight or night, if you support Roma and were in Manchester today, you left with a sore head and a sick stomach.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2007, 05:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  3-0 3-0 Only 20 minutes gone, and here's me at work. I hope some kind soul on this board is recording it on dvd and will take pity on poor old mank stuck here in 'rainy'...yes 'rainy' west palm beach!! I'll pay for postage.
Gladly Sir!  I might even spare you the Tommy Smyth and Derek Rae commentary and get you the English broadcast.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2007, 07:08:00 pm
Another plus is the Salford lads won't have to seek revenge on the Italians because they'll be emotionally kicked to hell after suffering through that bloodbath.
 
 I can't believe chelski score with literally the last kick of the game yet again. I really think they'll come unstuck against Liverscum though. United V Liverscum in Athens, as long as United don't look past Bayern Munich because that's a tough contest.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2007, 07:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  as long as United don't look past Bayern Munich because that's a tough contest.
It will be Owen Hargreaves auditioning for United the way Becks auditioned for Real Madrid a few years ago....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2007, 07:48:00 pm
<img src="http://msn.foxsports.com/id/6666416_7_1.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 11, 2007, 04:38:00 pm
I am going for a Liverpool - Manchester United final. Don't like italian teams (especially the two from Milan) and I continue to dislike Mourinho. It is too tough not to see one's team in these stages of the Champions League.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 14, 2007, 02:53:00 pm
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42802000/jpg/_42802099_aa4.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO WEMBLEY,
 WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED....
 WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO WEMBLEY,
 WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED.....
 JUST LIKE A TREE THAT'S STANDING BY THE WATERSIDE....
 WE'E'E'E SHALL NOT BE MOVED!!!!.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on April 14, 2007, 03:43:00 pm
a good solid win after the nirvana of tuesday night - I am getting very concerned that the injuries are piling up, esp at the back with so many impt games coming up
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42802000/jpg/_42802099_aa4.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO WEMBLEY,
 WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED....
 WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO WEMBLEY,
 WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED.....
 JUST LIKE A TREE THAT'S STANDING BY THE WATERSIDE....
 WE'E'E'E SHALL NOT BE MOVED!!!!.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 16, 2007, 02:43:00 pm
Predictions for the FA Cup final?
 
 I'll go first
 
 3-1 United
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 16, 2007, 02:44:00 pm
I'll go with 2-1 United in extra time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 16, 2007, 03:18:00 pm
man u 2-1 ronaldo with the winner late, cements his player of the year claim
 any multiple goal game favors manchester
 
 oh and the mike owen dramady is going to get worse: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=422172&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=422172&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 16, 2007, 03:25:00 pm
I just can't see Owen at OT so didn't pay much attention when I first read that rumour.....that boy is more fragile than a lladro anyway.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 17, 2007, 12:12:00 pm
Tuesday, April 17
 
 3:00 Arsenal v Man City (FSC)  
 3:00 Man United v Sheffield United (Setanta)  
 
 Wednesday, April 18
 
 3:00 West Ham v Chelsea (Setanta)
 3:00 Liverpool v Middlesbrough (FSC)
 5:00 Blackburn v Watford (Setanta Delayed)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 18, 2007, 11:09:00 pm
Messi challenges Maradona (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEh2qPzVt-Q&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Esport%2Ees%2Fdefault%2Easp%3Fidpublicacio%5FPK%3D44%26idioma%3DCAS%26idnoticia%5FPK%3D398094%26idseccio%5FPK%3D803)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2007, 11:57:00 am
I'm heading to the OC this weekend, so I'm going to post these early.  And to the Toonies, don't let me down - I have faith in you!
 
 Saturday, Apr 21
 
 7:45 Spurs v Arsenal (Setanta)  
 10:00 Charlton v Sheffield United (FSC)
 10:00 Liverpool v Wigan (SetantaX)  
 12:00 Man United v Middlesboro (FSC)
 2:15 Bolton v Reading (FSC)  
 6:15 West Ham v Everton (Setanta)  
 
 Sunday, April 22
 
 08:30 Newcastle v Chelsea (Setanta)  
 11:00 Aston Villa v Pompey (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 19, 2007, 12:20:00 pm
newcastle has played them tough a couple of times this year but the recent form has been sad for us. i think the toon's only on fsc once more all season    :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 20, 2007, 02:35:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe4teUFUmNg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe4teUFUmNg)
 
 this link is now working. Lots of debate whether this goal might be better than Maradona's in 1986 against England.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on April 20, 2007, 05:38:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe4teUFUmNg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe4teUFUmNg)
 
 this link is now working. Lots of debate whether this goal might be better than Maradona's in 1986 against England.
That was terrific!
 Though I'd love to hear the call in Spanish.
 Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllll!!!
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Post by: lagas on April 20, 2007, 05:48:00 pm
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Lots of debate whether this goal might be better than Maradona's in 1986 against England.
First, Maradona's goal was against one of the best defense of the world at the time, and second, it was against England (remember the falklands-malvinas war).
 Even when Messi's goal is amazing, there's no comparison between Getafe and England...
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 20, 2007, 07:19:00 pm
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Originally posted by lagos:
   
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Lots of debate whether this goal might be better than Maradona's in 1986 against England.
First, Maradona's goal was against one of the best defense of the world at the time, and second, it was against England (remember the falklands-malvinas war).
 Even when Messi's goal is amazing, there's no comparison between Getafe and England... [/b]
Don't forget he scored with his hand!!!!  :mad:  
 
 Or are you thinking about that other one that a whole nations seems to survive off, especially after we totally kicked their arses in what they called a war but we considered a minor scuffle.
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Post by: lagas on April 20, 2007, 10:00:00 pm
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Or are you thinking about that other one that a whole nations seems to survive off, especially after we totally kicked their arses in what they called a war but we considered a minor scuffle.  
I dont care about the outcome of the malvinas war, maradona's goal against England in 1986 was and is beautiful, you cant deny that...if you find pride because England won the minor scuffle, good for you...
 Tha fact is that a lot of people is comparing that goal with Messi's goal, which is also pretty much incredible and they both look alike..but they cant be compared, I mean come on, Peter Shilton, pretty much the best goalkeeper at the time, and you cant deny that Argentina won that 1986 World Cup. thats also a historic fact.
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Post by: brennser on April 22, 2007, 01:24:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  And to the Toonies, don't let me down - I have faith in you!
 
All hail the Toonies!!!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 23, 2007, 09:40:00 am
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Originally posted by lagos:
   
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Or are you thinking about that other one that a whole nations seems to survive off, especially after we totally kicked their arses in what they called a war but we considered a minor scuffle.  
I dont care about the outcome of the malvinas war, maradona's goal against England in 1986 was and is beautiful, you cant deny that...if you find pride because England won the minor scuffle, good for you...
 Tha fact is that a lot of people is comparing that goal with Messi's goal, which is also pretty much incredible and they both look alike..but they cant be compared, I mean come on, Peter Shilton, pretty much the best goalkeeper at the time, and you cant deny that Argentina won that 1986 World Cup. thats also a historic fact. [/b]
That was 1986....it's now 2007, find something else to live off or doesn't that shithole of a country have anything other than some fat, alcoholic drugged up has-been who's on his death bead in a nuthouse?
 
 Maybe you should go support Brasil like the rest of S. America.
 
 As for the toon army "howay the lads!!!
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Post by: lagas on April 23, 2007, 01:51:00 pm
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Maybe you should go support Brasil like the rest of S. America.
and who should you support then?, Italy, France?, when was the last time that England won a World Cup?, oh wait, that was TWO decades before 1986...
 
 I dont care about Maradona, and I agree that his current condition is pathetic, but he was one of the best soccer players, if not the best, of the world...its true that the guy has been getting high since then, but his left leg was magical, and if that bothers you, well, get over it...
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Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2007, 04:00:00 pm
I like them both, but I'm partial to this one, given the 90th minute of a Final against Arsenal.  And he wasn't coked up at the time.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgHi3D7OjNs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgHi3D7OjNs)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2007, 04:22:00 pm
just really hairy?
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Post by: brennser on April 23, 2007, 04:36:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  I like them both, but I'm partial to this one, given the 90th minute of a Final against Arsenal.  And he wasn't coked up at the time.
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgHi3D7OjNs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgHi3D7OjNs)
I don't think  it was the final - more like a quarter final reply or something like that - doesn't take away from the brilliance of the goal though
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Post by: lagas on April 23, 2007, 04:42:00 pm
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I like them both, but I'm partial to this one, given the 90th minute of a Final against Arsenal. And he wasn't coked up at the time.
well, we can find great goals everywhere...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEOFxq2vbiw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEOFxq2vbiw)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgqsaDnsEq8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgqsaDnsEq8)
 
 I personally like the spectacular ones...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O2nEZAb_Mk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O2nEZAb_Mk)
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Post by: brennser on April 23, 2007, 04:47:00 pm
did someone say spectacular?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sca7Zbsh_U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sca7Zbsh_U)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2007, 05:15:00 pm
I haven't felt that good since Archie Gemmill scored against Holland in 1978!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 23, 2007, 06:00:00 pm
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Originally posted by lagos:
   
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Maybe you should go support Brasil like the rest of S. America.
and who should you support then?, Italy, France?, when was the last time that England won a World Cup?, oh wait, that was TWO decades before 1986...
 
 I dont care about Maradona, and I agree that his current condition is pathetic, but he was one of the best soccer players, if not the best, of the world...its true that the guy has been getting high since then, but his left leg was magical, and if that bothers you, well, get over it... [/b]
Actually, his left hand was better than his left foot!
 
 I'm sorry...just were did I mention 1966?
 
 England are notorious under-achievers, and if you've seen any of my previous comments on the subject you'll find that I am consistent with that point of view of my national team. On paper England should've walked the last world cup, but if you field a team with players out of position at that level it is a sure way of failure. The manager was the weakest link, and who do they put in to replace him???? His bloody assistant for crying out loud!!!! Look how they're struggling to even qualify for Euro with that chump at the helm?
 
 Argentina, player for player, are superior to Brasil (imho) but the difference is Brasil play as a team and Argentina play as 11 individuals. Apart from that spectacular goal, which I consider the best goal of the competition...don't remember who it was against but it was a cracker, about 7 different players involved before a sweet, sweet finish. Apart from that moment of inspiration Argentina were very disapointing.
 
 I have a dislike for Argentina because, well, I'm English. I'm sure you have a dislike for England because it seems you are either Argentine, or a supporter of Argentina, and that's fine.....but I still love to talk football and will speak my mind and what I believe is the truth regardless of loyalties.....except for the scumbags Liverpool....tossers Arsenal....and complete and utter wankers Chelski!!!    :D
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Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2007, 06:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
  I don't think  it was the final - more like a quarter final reply or something like that - doesn't take away from the brilliance of the goal though
You are correct, sir.
 
 Manchester United 2-1 Arsenal
 The FA Cup, Semi-Final Replay
 Aston Villa FC, Villa Park
 14 April 1999

 
 Manchester United achieved an unprecedented "Treble" in 1999 but were living dangerously towards the end of their FA Cup Semi-Final replay with Arsenal at Villa Park.
 
 The first match, also at Villa, had failed to produce a result - or a goal - in two hours of football.
 
 Three days later David Beckham broke the deadlock with a United opener on 17 minutes, which Arsenal‚??s Dutch master Dennis Bergkamp cancelled out midway through the second half.
 
 In a pulsating last few minutes of normal time United battled to hold on after Roy Keane‚??s dismissal. Right at the death Arsenal were awarded a spot-kick but Peter Schmeichel dived full-length to his left to beat away Bergkamp‚??s shot.
 
 Then, as if we hadn‚??t seen enough drama already, Ryan Giggs scored an extra-time winner of breathtaking brilliance. The Welsh winger drove a left-footer past Seaman after a mazy run that had begun near the halfway line.
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Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2007, 06:43:00 pm
I prefer goals of skill and timing.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnXuZiRixpQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnXuZiRixpQ)
 
 Where were you when Ole Gunnar won Europe for Manchester United?
 
 I was at the Rock in DC, across the street from the then MCI Arena.  My first born will be named Ole Gunnar (yes, I have a lot of work to do on Smackette for that one!).
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 23, 2007, 06:59:00 pm
I was at work at Heishman Porsche...now Porsche of Arlington. I had the game on internet radio and hadn't finished celebrating Teddy's equalizer when Ole scored the winner.....I thought the commentators where still talking about Teddy's goal until I the final whistle blew and realized it was all over and United had actually won!!!!!
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Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2007, 12:01:00 pm
Champions League Semi's - First Leg
 
 Tuesday, April 24
 
 2:45 Man United v AC Milan (ESPN2)
 
 Wednesday, April 25
 
 2:45 Chelsea v Liverpool (ESPN2)
 
 I didn't sleep last night when I realized that United's back four was likely to consist of Fletcher, O'Shea, Brown, and Heinze.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2007, 01:31:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Champions League Semi's - First Leg
 
 Tuesday, April 24
 
 2:45 Man United v AC Milan (ESPN2)
 
 Wednesday, April 25
 
 2:45 Chelsea v Liverpool (ESPN2)
 
 I didn't sleep last night when I realized that United's back four was likely to consist of Fletcher, O'Shea, Brown, and Heinze.
...and here's me working yet again!!!   :mad:  
 
 United should be okay. If they can shut down Kaka from by tightening up the midfield with the back four (basically as though they were playing away from home) and get Rooney, Ronaldo and Giggs on the counter attack it's all good.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 24, 2007, 01:57:00 pm
dammit, i forgot to set the dvr
 
 could there be a more boring semi than chelski/doodlepool? no fun to watch, already play at least twice a year. yawner
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2007, 02:05:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  dammit, i forgot to set the dvr
 
 could there be a more boring semi than chelski/doodlepool? no fun to watch, already play at least twice a year. yawner
If Crouch if playing he's always entertaining, the gangly git.
 
 Apart from that it's a contest between two efficient teams who bore you to death. If you got points for entertainment value as well as winning Chelski would be mid-table and Reading would be pushing United for the title.
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Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2007, 02:17:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  dammit, i forgot to set the dvr
 
 
Sorry, I meant to post yesterday.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2007, 02:57:00 pm
HERE WE GO!! HERE WE GO!!! HERE WE GO!!! 1-0 1-0 1-0  :D    :D    :D
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Post by: bigyellow100 on April 24, 2007, 03:26:00 pm
kaka is freaking amazing.
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Post by: Barcelona on April 24, 2007, 03:27:00 pm
Not able to see the game, but the 7-1 might end up doing more harm than good.
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Post by: Barcelona on April 24, 2007, 04:38:00 pm
I guess I could have been wrong, this leg is still wide open and Manchester United were able to win the game after losing in half time, not an easy thing to accomplish against a team like Milan.
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Post by: bigyellow100 on April 24, 2007, 04:40:00 pm
wow.  im pretty pissed off.
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Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2007, 05:13:00 pm
Unreal.  Two completely different halves from both back fours.  Milan took the foot off the pedal after going up 1-2 and Rooney made them pay.  Shockingly, this series is not over!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2007, 05:46:00 pm
A draw in Milan is well within United's capabilities. If it was easy at this stage of the competition Arseholes would still be in it.   ;)
 
 Don't forget football psych 101 now comes into effect. Milan will be down knowing that they gave up a lead away from home, and United will be full of confidence knowing they came back to win with 6 of their starting players out. Advantage United.
 
 Doesn't anyone remember United v Juventus and Roy Keanes stroke of genius when he basically beat them alone in the second half in Italy?????
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 25, 2007, 09:19:00 am
Predictions for tonights match????
 
 Prima Donnas 1 scum 2
 
 BTW...did anyone hear morono's ranting about how there's one rule for United and one for them when it comes to penalties....wah wah wah....bbc.co.uk printed the penalty stats for the season. They've been awarded more and conceded less than United.  NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU WHINGING WANKER
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 25, 2007, 09:27:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 Prima Donnas 1 scum 2
 
wait, which one's which?
 
 this will be the 14th meeting in the past 3 years between the two teams.   :eek:
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Post by: brennser on April 25, 2007, 09:27:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Predictions for tonights match????
 
 Prima Donnas 1 scum 2
 
 BTW...did anyone hear morono's ranting about how there's one rule for United and one for them when it comes to penalties....wah wah wah....bbc.co.uk printed the penalty stats for the season. They've been awarded more and conceded less than United.  NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU WHINGING WANKER
I hope Pool beat Chelski, one of the very few occassions I'll ever cheer for them. I watched the second half of yesterdays game live and thought we did great - by the end we  were dominating them and could have had a few more.
 
 Mankie - do you have a link to those penalty stats? I'd like to shove them down some peoples throats....
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Post by: Barcelona on April 25, 2007, 09:42:00 am
Liverpool!!!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 25, 2007, 09:59:00 am
<img src="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6581809.stm" alt=" - " />
 
 I was wrong on penalties awarded.....but still, chelski have +2 and united +1 so he can still shut the fuck up.
 
 for the record
 
 Prima donnas = chelski
 Scum = Liverpool
 (I thought that was obvious)
 
 *edit*
 The image won't copy so here's a link to the complete story.
 
     http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6581809.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6581809.stm)  
 
 BTW United fans, isn't it refreshing for our beloved red devils to not be the most hated team in England anymore?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 25, 2007, 10:10:00 am
BTW...RIP Alan Ball, aged 61. Youngest player of the 1966 world cup winning England team
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/6590715.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/6590715.stm)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 25, 2007, 10:28:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 
 
 for the record
 
 Prima donnas = chelski
 Scum = Liverpool
 (I thought that was obvious)
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6581809.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/6581809.stm)  
 
 
oh, i was kidding
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Post by: Barcelona on April 25, 2007, 12:24:00 pm
Most hated two teams in the world? Chelsea and Real Madrid. Chelsea because of Mourinho and his arrogance, provocative comments, indirect threats to referees, players.... Real Madrid, they only win Champions Leagues under far-right dictatorships or when friends from the conservative party govern in Spain.
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Post by: vansmack on April 25, 2007, 03:34:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 Doesn't anyone remember United v Juventus and Roy Keanes stroke of genius when he basically beat them alone in the second half in Italy?????
When it was 2-2 and looking like it was going back to Milan that way, that was the first thing I thought of.  About 10 minutes later Tommy and Derek started talking about "Roy Keane's greatest performance ever."
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 25, 2007, 05:19:00 pm
1-0 money bags. I still think scum will go through because they will score more than 1 at anfield, and chelski can't score more than 1 at home so how are they ever going to score away? Not only that, chelski have quite a few players on a yellow so will have to be really careful if they want to play the final should they go through......oh, the drama!
 
 Nice attendance though, I think they got just slightly more than half of United's attendance last night.    ;)
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Post by: vansmack on April 26, 2007, 12:16:00 pm
I fell asleep twice watching that match last night.  
 
 And I'll tell you one more thing - if Drogba goes to the sidelines one more time like he's dead or dying and trots back on the pitch like nothing happened, I'll give United the money to sign Keane for one game to make sure he knows what pain is really like.  I can't remember the last time I watched a Chelski match and Drogba went to ground rolling in agony, was carted off, and came back on running faster than ever.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 26, 2007, 01:18:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  And I'll tell you one more thing - if Drogba goes to the sidelines one more time like he's dead or dying and trots back on the pitch like nothing happened, I'll give United the money to sign Keane for one game to make sure he knows what pain is really like.  I can't remember the last time I watched a Chelski match and Drogba went to ground rolling in agony, was carted off, and came back on running faster than ever.
That's what flooding the premiership with foriegners will do to the game. On the continent it's considered quite an artform, but is killing the English game. That's why English teams with English players (NOT ARSEHOLES) have such a hard time at away games in Europe.....a good tackle in England is a yellow card offense in Spain or Italy so the English teams have to wuss it up.  Morono and his bellyaching over the lack of penalties is a prime example....if you tackle someone in the box and they happen to go down it's not an automatic penaly, although it is in Europe evidently.
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Post by: vansmack on April 27, 2007, 01:12:00 pm
Saturday, Apr 28
 
 7:45 Chelsea v Bolton (FSC)  
 7:45 Everton v Man Utd (Setanta)
 10:00 Middlesboro v Spurs (FSC)  
 10:00 Wigan v West Ham (SetantaX)
 10:00 Pompey v Liverpool (Setanta)
 2:30 Blackburn v Charlton (FSC)
   
 Sunday, Apr 29
 
 11:00 Arsenal v Fulham (FSC)
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 28, 2007, 09:54:00 am
Well, the chubby chick is clearing her throat!!   :D
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Post by: brennser on April 28, 2007, 10:55:00 am
yup, we can almosty taste it!! what a morning, what a comeback?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 28, 2007, 11:37:00 am
My best mate from DC is down here visiting us with his family this weekend.....YEP!~!! he's a scouser, a BLUE scouser!  :D
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 28, 2007, 12:13:00 pm
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42859000/jpg/_42859795_jose270.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
   <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42859000/jpg/_42859971_ferg_fans416.jpg" alt=" - " />
  <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42859000/jpg/_42859827_rooney_celeb416.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Post by: vansmack on April 28, 2007, 01:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  My best mate from DC is down here visiting us with his family this weekend.....YEP!~!! he's a scouser, a BLUE scouser!   :D  
Must be a painful morning for him!
 
 Smackette left the house after the second goal because I wouldn't sit down.  I hope she comes back...with a Trophy!!!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 28, 2007, 04:45:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  My best mate from DC is down here visiting us with his family this weekend.....YEP!~!! he's a scouser, a BLUE scouser!    :D  
Must be a painful morning for him!
 
 Smackette left the house after the second goal because I wouldn't sit down.  I hope she comes back...with a Trophy!!! [/b]
I thought she was your trophy!  ;)
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Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2007, 01:03:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  I thought she was your trophy!   ;)  
Too true.  But she's so accomplished it's more likely the other way around, if not now, very soon.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2007, 01:55:00 pm
so, it looks like mike owen is going to play today....
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Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2007, 03:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so, it looks like mike owen is going to play today....
Started too.  I thought for sure he'd be a 60 minute sub to let him run for 30 minutes or so...
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Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2007, 03:40:00 pm
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE SEMIFINALS - SECOND LEG
 
 Tuesday, May 1
 
 2:30 Liverpool v Chelsea ESPN2 (Chelsea leads 1-0)
 
 
 Wednesday, May 2
 
 2:30 AC Milan v Man United ESPN2 (Man U leads 3-2)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2007, 03:44:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so, it looks like mike owen is going to play today....
Started too.  I thought for sure he'd be a 60 minute sub to let him run for 30 minutes or so... [/b]
roeder doesnt believe in bringing injured players on as subs. warm up better prematch or something
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 30, 2007, 04:30:00 pm
I'm sorry, but can we please call  him by his name, Michael Owen.....nobody calls him 'Mike'other than the folk on this board.....petty I know, but it's driving me up the wall.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2007, 04:32:00 pm
i think i'm the only one that calls him mike
 
 once he plays regularly, he can be known by his proper name
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 30, 2007, 04:36:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  I'm sorry, but can we please call  him by his name, Michael Owen.....
I would have thought that Owens would have been worse for you.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 30, 2007, 05:33:00 pm
I put the s down to a simple typo so let that go.
 
 Do you think Big Sam Allardyce will be at Newcastle or Shitty next season?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2007, 10:02:00 pm
its hard to argue he's not a better manager than what we have
 
 but man is bolton ugly
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 01, 2007, 10:14:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 
 but man is bolton ugly
But effective!
 
 May the Lord of mercy on my soul for what I am about to say, but.........
 
 "Come on the 'Pool'!!!!!!"
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 01, 2007, 11:50:00 am
not just effective, but players seem to play hard for him, which i cant say about glenn. expecially the vets
 
 i just want to see attacking football
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Post by: vansmack on May 01, 2007, 11:50:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Do you think Big Sam Allardyce will be at Newcastle or Shitty next season?
Shitty.
 
 And Liverpool in regular time is my prediction.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 01, 2007, 02:16:00 pm
I think Chelski would be an easier game if United make it past Milan, but I think a United v Liverpool final would be one for the history books. Plus, Morono is a twat!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on May 01, 2007, 05:28:00 pm
Congratulations to Liverpool
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 01, 2007, 05:35:00 pm
Don't you just hate penalties though? Such an anti-climax to an all important game.
 
 Still glad chelski are OUT Can't wait to hear what morono will blame it on this time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 01, 2007, 07:33:00 pm
He is a loser. He will never accept that other teams may be better than his own team. So glad to see them out of the Champions League.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6610157.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6610157.stm)
 
 Mourinho believes Blues were best  
 
 Manager Jose Mourinho felt Chelsea did not deserve their penalty shoot-out defeat against Liverpool in the Champions League semi-final.
 
 The Londoners were beaten 4-1 on spot-kicks after Liverpool cancelled out Chelsea's 1-0 first-leg lead.
 
 "It is a moment when everybody has to be strong," he said. "My players have a lot of reasons to be proud.
 
 "We were the best team today, even against a team only playing for the Champions League."
 
 He added: "In extra-time we were the only team who tried to win, but football is like that and the penalty shoot-out is part of the game.
 
 "My players did a great run in the Champions League."
 
 Mourinho also denied that his pre-match spat with Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez helped inspire Liverpool to victory.
 
 He added: "I respected Liverpool always in my words. I don't need to say more and today I think the best team was Chelsea."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 02, 2007, 06:37:00 am
I'm just wondering.....why was he belly-aching about chelski never getting penalties when his shower of chumps don't even know how to take them???  yuk, yuk, yuk!  :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 02, 2007, 03:14:00 pm
The conditions in Milan are horrendous.  Massive downpour.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 02, 2007, 03:48:00 pm
GREAT NEWS EVERYONE....It's half time and the United team bus has just pulled in the San Siro car park. We might have a game in the second half!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 02, 2007, 04:39:00 pm
Well, the better team won and they didn't have to pay the ref off for this one....pretty ironic to say they shouldn't even be in the competition with all the corruption they're guilty of.
 
 I hope they destroy scum like they just destroyed United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 02, 2007, 05:24:00 pm
Vidic (clearly not match fit) and Heinze looked like they hadn't played together years, and come to think of it, they might not have given their injury history.
 
 United's offensive struggles in Milan continue, but that shouldn't take away from what was a gloriuos performance by Kaka and Gattusso.  They deserve to go to Athens.
 
 Doesn't make me any happier about the outcome, but after watching yesterday's snoozer, it's hard to swallow.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 02, 2007, 07:37:00 pm
Very interesting Champions League. Milan played very badly at the beginning of the season and even had to go to extra time with Celtic in the last sixteen. Liverpool I believe had a bad moment during the season when they lost some games with Arsenal pretty badly.  But once both teams eliminated with some authority Barcelona and Bayern Munich, they showed that they are the strongest teams in Europe. I especially respect Liverpool, only Gerrard is considered among the best players of the world, but they somehow manage to be the most respected team in Europe.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 03, 2007, 09:24:00 am
Not intending to take anything away from Liverpool, but Gerrard is not one of the best players in the world....he's a good player on a team of average players so shines with Liverpool. When Gerrard is on the England squad he's merely an also-ran.
 
 Benitez is a class act and deserves all the credit for getting them to the final again.
 
 One of most annoying quotes from morono, and believe me there's many to choose from, is when he referred to Liverpool as a 'small team'...Liverpool are a huge team, and like United fill the stadium regardless of their success on the field, his own team are merely minnows and can't even fill their shanty-town shack of a stadium no matter what.
 
 I've gone from finding him amusing to wanting to ram my fist so far down his throat he'd shit my elbow.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: lagas on May 03, 2007, 01:35:00 pm
can you get more criminal than this?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntsj8C_V7Tw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntsj8C_V7Tw)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 03, 2007, 01:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Not intending to take anything away from Liverpool, but Gerrard is not one of the best players in the world....he's a good player on a team of average players so shines with Liverpool. When Gerrard is on the England squad he's merely an also-ran.
 
wow, you're lucky there arent any liverpool supporters here
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 05, 2007, 10:36:00 am
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42889000/jpg/_42889459_fergie_getty300.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 06, 2007, 03:24:00 pm
:D    :D    :D    :D  
 
 this one is the sweetest of the 9 for me!
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  MOU-RIN-I-HO are you listenin'
 you'd better keep that trophy glistening
 we'll be back in May, to take it away
 walkin' in a Fergie wonderland!!!!!
 
 6 points clear, +13 goal difference, not bad heading into the new year!!!    :D      :D      :D  
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 07, 2007, 09:54:00 am
I'll most certainly be watching the now meaningless game on Wednesday if only to see the guard of honour chelski will give the Premiership Champions when they run out on to the field at Stamford Bridge!!!!    :D      :D  
 
 Life is good, I am very confident of us winning the double.
 
 BTW....How about Roy Keane and his Black Cats miracle?....and another ex-United player winning automatic promotion with Birminghan?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 07, 2007, 11:02:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  BTW....How about Roy Keane and his Black Cats miracle?
Just getting warmed up to take over for Fergie when he's ready to step down...he was always a brilliant football mind, just had a bit of temper.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 07, 2007, 11:26:00 am
anyone want to revise the big sam to man shitty predictions
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 07, 2007, 12:55:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  BTW....How about Roy Keane and his Black Cats miracle?
Just getting warmed up to take over for Fergie when he's ready to step down...he was always a brilliant football mind, just had a bit of temper. [/b]
I have to agree with you.....5 years??
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 07, 2007, 12:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  anyone want to revise the big sam to man shitty predictions
I think if he went to the magpies they'd have to clean house of all those nancy-boys up there, because they just won't fit in with his 'thugball' style. Shitty already have a bunch of thugs in place. Newcastle would be a bigger draw with a man of his ego though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 07, 2007, 01:06:00 pm
i think the last point is the most important
 
 buzz makes it sound like its 80% certain that he's coming, though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 07, 2007, 01:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  BTW....How about Roy Keane and his Black Cats miracle?
Just getting warmed up to take over for Fergie when he's ready to step down...he was always a brilliant football mind, just had a bit of temper. [/b]
I have to agree with you.....5 years?? [/b]
I would say 3...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 07, 2007, 04:43:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
   
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
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Originally posted by vansmack:
     
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  BTW....How about Roy Keane and his Black Cats miracle?
Just getting warmed up to take over for Fergie when he's ready to step down...he was always a brilliant football mind, just had a bit of temper. [/b]
I have to agree with you.....5 years?? [/b]
I would say 3... [/b]
I don't think Fergie will be ready to retire in three. He's building a new dynasty at Old Trafford and will want to enjoy the fruits of his labor for a couple of years. Ideally, Keane could start as the assistant manager but I don't think those two could work together again, although Quinn and Keane figured it out so anythings possible.
 
 As for Newcastle, apart from Shearer I have great respect for the club and it's fans, and they deserve a great team. Other teams I consider 'big teams' are Wolves (without McCarthy of course) West Ham and Sunderland. Leeds can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Their *ahem* fans are a disgrace.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 07, 2007, 04:55:00 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/women/6632373.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/women/6632373.stm)
 
 Arsenal didn't end up trophyless after all.
 
   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 07, 2007, 04:57:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
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Originally posted by brennser:
   
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
     
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Originally posted by vansmack:
     
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  BTW....How about Roy Keane and his Black Cats miracle?
Just getting warmed up to take over for Fergie when he's ready to step down...he was always a brilliant football mind, just had a bit of temper. [/b]
I have to agree with you.....5 years?? [/b]
I would say 3... [/b]
I don't think Fergie will be ready to retire in three. He's building a new dynasty at Old Trafford and will want to enjoy the fruits of his labor for a couple of years. Ideally, Keane could start as the assistant manager but I don't think those two could work together again, although Quinn and Keane figured it out so anythings possible.
 
 As for Newcastle, apart from Shearer I have great respect for the club and it's fans, and they deserve a great team. Other teams I consider 'big teams' are Wolves (without McCarthy of course) West Ham and Sunderland. Leeds can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Their *ahem* fans are a disgrace. [/b]
from the man himself......
 
 And while he confirmed he will not still be in charge by the time he reaches his 70th birthday, at 65 the Glaswegian still has the fire to fight a few more battles yet.
 
 'Age creeps up on you,' he smiled. 'I still think of myself as being in my 50s. All of a sudden you read in the paper you are 65 and think 'that can't be right'.
 
 'I don't see any dramatic changes in myself from five or six years ago, although there must be some.
 
 'I will not carry on until I am 70 but I have enjoyed this season.'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 08, 2007, 06:44:00 am
Oasis frontman and ardent Man City fan Noel Gallagher was left fuming when Primal Scream bassist and ardent Man Utd fan Mani phoned from a packed pub and got all the locals to sing 'champions, champions' down the line. (Daily Star)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 10, 2007, 03:26:00 pm
And on the last day.....
 
 Sunday, May 13
 
 10:00 Sheffield United v Wigan (SetantaX)  
 10:00 Man United v West Ham (FSC - Trophy presentation to follow)
 10:00 Pompey v Arsenal (Setanta)
 14:30 Chelsea v Everton (FSC)  
 
 Being a Wolves follower, I thought I'd throw this out there too:
 
 7:00am Coca-Cola Championship Play-Off Semi-Final
 Wolves v West Brom (Setanta)
 
 
 Wednesday, May 16
 
 UEFA Cup Final
 2:30 Espanyol v Sevilla  (FSC)
 
 2:30 Coca-Cola Championship Play-Off Semi-Final 2nd Leg
 Wolves v West Brom (Setanta)
 
 
 Saturday, May 19
 
 FA CUP FINAL
 10:00 Chelsea v Man United (PPV Only)
 
 
 Wednesday, May 23
 
 Champions League Final
 2:30 Liverpool v. AC Milan (ESPN2/HD)
 
 
 Monday, May 28
 
 2:30pm Coca-Cola Championship Play-Off Final
 Derby/Southampton v Wolves/West Brom
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 14, 2007, 06:48:00 am
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42919000/jpg/_42919889_ronaldo_pa.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 15, 2007, 08:37:00 am
sounds like sam's in, and nearly everyone else is out at the toon
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 15, 2007, 08:54:00 am
I wonder how the toon army fans will warm up to the long ball game?
 
 Prob won't give a toss as long as they start winning....answered my own question really didn't I?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 15, 2007, 11:01:00 am
you did
 
 not my first choice but heck even if we get better effort and less locker room strife, that's an improvement. sam should be able to sort that out
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 15, 2007, 01:55:00 pm
Rumour is Sparky Hughes is moving to shitty!!! I'd rather stay with Blackburn if I was him. What do you think?
 
 Did you see some Chinese consortium put in an offer for United for 850 million pounds and the Glazers told them to 'eff off?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 16, 2007, 08:37:00 am
well, blackburn has less cash, but shitty's money comes from pol pot
 
 toss up
 
 manusa fans just hate the glazers so much. didnt they attack his car the day they won the prem?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 17, 2007, 06:05:00 am
Great UEFA cup final between Spanish teams last night in Glasgow. Sad for the small team in Barcelona who lost it in the penalties. Great goal though in the 115th minute with one player less, no one expected it.
 
 I think that the Spanish league is the strongest one in Europe. Maybe England has the best four teams, but from the fifth to the last one, they tend to be really bad.
 
   <img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070516/i/r721381290.jpg?" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 18, 2007, 09:02:00 am
LONDON (AFP) - Police are hunting a blue-throated Amazon parrot called Chelsea who screeches when anyone mentions Manchester United, stolen from its owner's garden this week.
 
 
 The family pet, which is tame and able to tell people its name, was taken from a home in the English Midlands on Tuesday night, apparently after having been bundled into a towel stolen from the washing line.
 
 "I think it was stolen to order ... I don't think someone would just steal a parrot for a pet," its owner Richard Threadgold told AFP, confirming that the bird emits a "high-pitched screech" when Manchester United is mentioned.
 
 "We are avid Chelsea fans, that's how he got the name, and my son used to taunt it by saying 'Manchester United' at it every time he went past the cage," leading it to develop the unusual reaction, he said.
 
 The family bought the bird five years ago for 600 pounds, and is considering offering a reward if no progress is made in finding it within the next few days, he said.
 
 Police confirmed in a statement that the bird had been stolen sometime overnight Tuesday, adding that the family's car had also been broken into.
 
 Threadgold said he hopes Chelsea's football-related verbal quirk will help detectives identify the bird -- and dismissed any suggestion that the thieves stole it because of its team affiliation.
 
 "I don't think they would pinch our parrot just because of its banter," he said.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on May 18, 2007, 04:07:00 pm
New Wembley rolls out red carpet
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/6668447.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/6668447.stm)  
 
 since i can't find a decent hockey bar in this town: suggestions for a good soccer bar?  i'm considering catching the game at  lucky bar (http://www.luckybardc.com/soccer.asp), but that's mostly out of convenience and habit (it's where i caught most of the world cup last year).  suggestions for a new venue in DC would be welcome.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 18, 2007, 05:12:00 pm
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
   suggestions for a new venue in DC would be welcome.
There were only two, really, when I was there.  Lucky Bar and Cap Lounge and 99.9% of the time I went to the lucky bar.  The owner (the bald guy) is Welsh and a huge Giggsy fan, and that's why I support him.
 
 There's that place in VA that I forget the name of (Summners?), but, I'm not a B&T guy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 19, 2007, 03:22:00 pm
Never saw the game.....should it have been a penalty, and was it a goal?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on May 20, 2007, 12:21:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Never saw the game.....should it have been a penalty, and was it a goal?
are you referring to rooney's slide that pushed cech into the net, well after he had caught it?  the ball was definitely over the line, but my understanding is that the call was correct -  momentum like does not a legal goal make.
 
 over-all, a relatively unexciting game.  good thing i got to watch over at a friend's... spent the money on fresh cherries, chips, and lager.  yummy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 21, 2007, 08:27:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 There's that place in VA that I forget the name of (Summners?), but, I'm not a B&T guy.
i thought you worked at the 4 p's
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 21, 2007, 08:42:00 am
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Never saw the game.....should it have been a penalty, and was it a goal?
are you referring to rooney's slide that pushed cech into the net, well after he had caught it?  the ball was definitely over the line, but my understanding is that the call was correct -  momentum like does not a legal goal make.
 
 over-all, a relatively unexciting game.  good thing i got to watch over at a friend's... spent the money on fresh cherries, chips, and lager.  yummy. [/b]
It's no biggie, the season's over, we won the main one, but as Giggsy said, if it's not a foul then it's a goal, and the ref never called it for a foul so it has to be a goal. Just imagine the belly-aching if it was at the other end.
 
 HEY WE GOT OUR MAN!!! HARGREAVES WILL MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN MIDFIELD!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 21, 2007, 12:50:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i thought you worked at the 4 p's
I did.  The original 4Ps was in Cleveland Park (now the 4 Green Fields) and I lived just a few blocks away.  That's the one I worked at.  
 
 I have never been to the 4Ps in VA.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 21, 2007, 12:53:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  as Giggsy said, if it's not a foul then it's a goal, and the ref never called it for a foul so it has to be a goal. Just imagine the belly-aching if it was at the other end.
Giggs is right, but I would have called a foul.  
 
 You didn't miss much Mank. Relatively boring game with few chances.  Some tired bodies out there for both squads.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 21, 2007, 01:01:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i thought you worked at the 4 p's
I did.  The original 4Ps was in Cleveland Park (now the 4 Green Fields) and I lived just a few blocks away.  That's the one I worked at.  
 
 I have never been to the 4Ps in VA. [/b]
that makes tons more sense than living in dc and working at a bar in falls church
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 21, 2007, 02:44:00 pm
Classy move from a classy owner....
 
 Hayward frees Wolves
 
 New owner agrees to inveset at least ¬£30m in the club
 
 Paul Doyle
 Monday May 21, 2007
 Guardian Unlimited
 
 Sir Jack Hayward has agreed to "gift" Wolverhampton Wanderers to business Steve Morgan for a mere ¬£10. As part of the deal, which should be formalised over the coming month, Morgan has agreed to invest ¬£30m "for the benefit of the club".
 
 Hayward bought Wolves for ¬£2m in 1990 and has since then invested some ¬£50m of his fortune into the club. He has been searching for someone to hand the club over to since 2003, but always insisted that his concern was not to make a financial killing on the deal but to ensure new life was breathed into the club. He has previously rejected takeover bids by, amongst others, Graeme Souness. "In Steve Morgan, Sir Jack feels he has finally found someone who not only has the best interests of the club at heat but also has the resources necessary to take over the responsibility for returning the club to its former greatness," read a club statement.
 
 "It is intended that the new capital, over a period of time, will be used to help re-establish Wolves as a Premiership club. Although there is a significant amount of money there will not be an 'open cheque book' approach to signing players; instead the club will build on the current strategy of steadily and progressively developing a team of young, hungry and talented players."
 
 Morgan made his fortune as the founder of house builder Redrow plc before selling a majority shareholding in 2000. He is chairman of a number of privately-owned companies including, Harrow Estates plc, one of the UK's contaminated land specialists. He came close to buying Liverpool in 2004, the club he has supported since childhood. "He fully understands the game, its importance to fans and its local community," contineud the Wolves' statement.
 
 With a young, cheap squad, Wolves managed to finish fifth in the Championship this season before being beaten in the playoff semi-finals by local rivals West Brom. Their manager Mick McCarthy has been told his job is not in jeopardy despite the imminent takeover.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 21, 2007, 04:08:00 pm
The first thing I'd do is can McCarthy. He's the Irish Kevin Keegan....he's 'almost' achieved so much, but actually achieved squat
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 23, 2007, 05:10:00 pm
kiss the cup goodbye Stevie - justice is finally done!!!!
 
  <img src="http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2005/07/08/carra.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on May 23, 2007, 08:53:00 pm
Did anyone watch the final? What did you think?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 24, 2007, 07:11:00 am
HA HA HAHAHA HA HAHA HOOOOO HEEEE HAHAHAHAHA
 
 Okay, now lets go count the trophies in the Anfield display cabinet for this season????
 
 Gerrard is a tool.
 
  <img src="http://www.bluekipper.com/assets/images/blubber/Shootin%20Shite!.gif" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 24, 2007, 08:54:00 am
What goes......
 
 "BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP"?
 
 The Liverpool parade bus backing back into the garage!!!
 
   :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 24, 2007, 09:49:00 am
the fools lose, newcastle looks to be bought by an english billionaire
 
 hopefully, the pieman is out
 
 good times
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 24, 2007, 01:00:00 pm
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Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
  Did anyone watch the final? What did you think?
I thought Liverpool were a little hard lucked to finish the first half down 1-0, but Milan were the class of the second half and deserved the win.  Gerrard just couldn't get much going and Dida made a nice save in his one good opportunity.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 24, 2007, 02:27:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
  Did anyone watch the final? What did you think?
I thought Liverpool were a little hard lucked to finish the first half down 1-0, but Milan were the class of the second half and deserved the win.  Gerrard just couldn't get much going and Dida made a nice save in his one good opportunity. [/b]
Oh come on smackie....I would've put that one away and I'm almost 47 years old with a gimpy knee. Don't give the goalie credit for lousy finishing by Gerrard. It's amazing that a team could go so far with the goalie as the weakest link.
 
 I'm still waiting for the scouse conspiricy theorists to come with some b.s. about finishing the game 30 seconds early seeing as it was AC Milan, who were initially banned from the competition for match fixing. That was strange I must admit...there should've been at least another full minute after the feined injury during the added time.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 25, 2007, 07:11:00 am
Never mind...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 30, 2007, 05:01:00 pm
WOW!!!!!
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6706423.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6706423.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 30, 2007, 05:21:00 pm
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42989000/jpg/_42989921_anderson_nani203.jpg" alt=" - " />
 couldnt they find a better picture?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 30, 2007, 08:26:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  WOW!!!!!
 
 
No kidding.  Peter Kenyon must be fit to be tied.  That my friend, is the result of winning the Premiereship and not the FA and Carling Cups.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 31, 2007, 09:30:00 pm
http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9267864&CFID=7155171&CFTOKEN=74800451 (http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9267864&CFID=7155171&CFTOKEN=74800451)
 
 Spoils to the victors
 May 31st 2007
 From The Economist print edition
 
 New owners, more revenues‚??and a change in the Euroworks?
 
 ONE could hardly think of an unlikelier trophy for a billionaire businessman than Newcastle United Football Club, which has won no significant competition for decades. But stranger things have been happening in English football than the ¬£133m bid for the club announced on May 24th by Mike Ashley, a sportswear mogul.
 
 A slew of other prominent businessmen are also queuing up to buy football clubs. Thaksin Shinawatra, a deposed Thai prime minister, has made an indicative bid for Manchester City, and Southampton has recently received an offer from Paul Allen, one of the founders of Microsoft.
 
 Why the continuing love affair with English clubs? Figures released on May 31st by Deloitte, an accounting firm, provide one answer: the revenues of Premier League clubs are likely to be almost ¬£1.8 billion in the coming season, up from about ¬£1.4 billion in the one just finished. In the past, such jumps in income have gone mostly to players, with little, if any, left over for club owners.
 
 And for good reason: the market for talent in football is remarkably efficient. On the whole, those clubs that pay the most to players tend to win more games. And to the victors go the spoils. Teams that rank higher in the various leagues earn far more through marketing deals than those that they have beaten.
 
 But two changes seem to be taking place in English football, says Dan Jones, who heads the sports group at Deloitte. The first is that English clubs have done a better job of marketing themselves and securing good broadcast deals than rivals elsewhere. In the next season Premier League clubs are likely to earn nearly ¬£700m more than those in the next most lucrative European league, Italy's Serie A. The top English teams can now afford to pay so much for talent that, barring a very few rich clubs elsewhere such as Barcelona or Real Madrid, they are competing mostly with each other.
 
 The second change is an influx of new owners such as Malcolm Glazer, an American who paid ¬£790m to take over Manchester United in 2005. They are replacing an old guard who ran clubs for love and glory. Many of the newcomers have big debts, forcing them to focus on profit.
 
 Such thinking has sports bureaucrats worried. A report on European football for the European Commission last year fretted that ‚??football should not be a contest between corporate leviathans with the outcome dictated by whoever has the deepest pockets‚?Ě. It urged cost controls such as a payroll tax on rich clubs to finance poorer ones. The aim is to retain a ‚??competitive balance‚?Ě so that fans do not lose interest in the game, thinking that their club has no shot at victory.
 
 Stefan Szymanski, who teaches economics at Imperial College London, reckons one outcome of a proposal the European Commission is debating now could be the adoption of an American sports model that forces teams to share revenue and lets the worst of them pick some of the best new talent. That would make owning lower-ranking clubs more profitable. Perhaps Mr Ashley's purchase is not so odd after all.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 31, 2007, 10:57:00 pm
outside of the big 4, is there a better club to own in england?
 
 actually, i dont even care, as long as the fat freddy reign of terror is over
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 01, 2007, 07:19:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  outside of the big 4, is there a better club to own in england?
 
 actually, i dont even care, as long as the fat freddy reign of terror is over
Who's the 4th?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 01, 2007, 08:31:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  outside of the big 4, is there a better club to own in england?
 
 actually, i dont even care, as long as the fat freddy reign of terror is over
Who's the 4th? [/b]
manchester united
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on June 01, 2007, 09:44:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  outside of the big 4, is there a better club to own in england?
 
 actually, i dont even care, as long as the fat freddy reign of terror is over
Who's the 4th? [/b]
manchester united [/b]
You british members of the board. One day you will have to explain where the hell are some traditional teams such as Nottingham Forest (two European Cups), Leeds United, Queens Park Rangers, Sheffield Wednesday, Norwich, Ipswich Town, Cristal Palace.. I think I haven't seen them in the premierleague for a while.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 01, 2007, 03:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  outside of the big 4, is there a better club to own in england?
 
 actually, i dont even care, as long as the fat freddy reign of terror is over
Who's the 4th? [/b]
manchester united [/b]
Right.... Spurs, Newcastle, Aston Villa and Manchester United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 03, 2007, 08:45:00 pm
haha, i just couldnt figure out who you were zonging (chelski?)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 04, 2007, 11:45:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  haha, i just couldnt figure out who you were zonging (chelski?)
I was...not a big club, just a rich owner.
 
 Look, liverscum won something this season after all, well deserved too!
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6717793.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6717793.stm)
 
 Stealing tickets from kids pretty much sums those dirtbags up really!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 04, 2007, 02:33:00 pm
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Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 12, 2007, 01:06:00 pm
Forty Signs That It`s Summer
 
 1) Thierry Henry is off to Barcelona.
 2) You keep checking the internet to see if you've signed someone. You just did it now.
 3) And again.
 4) The Mailbox is half as long as normal.
 5) Thierry Henry is off to Real Madrid now.
 6) ManYoo release a new kit.
 7) Football pundits find themselves shoehorned into covering other sports.
 8) As do football journalists. Quick, look busy.
 9) Someone English is cheered all the way to the fourth round of Wimbledon from Henman Hill or Murray Mount or somewhere.
 10) Actually, Andrew Murray's f**king Scottish, isn't he? Let's not cheer for him.
 11) Sue Barker sits there and tells you it's a "Great British summer of sport".
 12) You end up knowing the names of half the footballers' agents in the Premier League.
 13) Old pros are forced to play football as satellite TV desperately scrabbles around for material.
 14) Spurs target a top-four finish.
 15) Your skin has gone a funny lobster colour and hurts.
 16) Golf seems interesting.
 17) Everyone gets excited waiting for the fixture list. Ooh, we play every team twice! Once home and once away! I can't wait!
 18) You actually start to miss Alan Hansen.
 19) Cricket is the new football. So we're told.
 20) You try to convince yourself that the awful player linked with your club has just been misunderstood in the past.
 21) And as for those players you've never heard of, well, best check their stats on Football Manager. That'll work.
 22) You start to fancy Clare Balding.
 23) Sky Sports News is even duller than normal.
 24) Fernando Torres is linked with a move to the Premiership. (Note: In previous years, this role was regularly filled by Benni McCarthy).
 25) You tell yourself staying up all night to watch the Copa America and MLS is normal.
 26) It's Liverpool's year.
 27) You suddenly realise you've got a wife and kids and that you haven't spoken to them for nine months. And they hate you.
 28) You contemplate seeing if you can find your old Subbuteo set in the loft.
 29) You persuade your family this year's holiday should be in Norway just so you can watch live football. Brann are top, you know, and Odd
 Grenland have only won once. Fascinating.
 30) You persuade yourself the Intertoto Cup is really great.
 31) You start craving cold lager at 10am every day.
 32) You get so desperate that you start watching Eurosport 2 in the hope some football comes on.
 33) You find yourself travelling 100 miles on a bus to watch the youth team's reserves playing a pre-season friendly.
 34) You realise it's 3pm on a Saturday afternoon and you're holding your missus' bags in Top Shop. And even though she's trying to talk to you, all you're thinking is 'Ooh, I remember when Top Man used to sponsor Leeds'.
 35) You love being top four or hate being in the relegation zone. Even though the league is entirely alphabetical.
 36) You breathe a sigh of relief when you realise pre-season friendlies start in the first week of July. Because watching your out-of-shape side play Stevenage is just great, isn't it?
 37) Newcastle sign 15 players. Only one of them is a defender.
 38) You start to work out how many players it would take for your side to break into the Big Four. Then you think how great it would be if you
 somehow won your first ten games and managed to stay ahead of the rest and be in with a shout of the league.
 39) You convince yourself it's worth sticking a quid on it at 2500/1 odds. 50p, at least.
 40) You put the other 50p on ManYoo getting relegated at 7500/1. Anything's possible, right?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 12, 2007, 01:39:00 pm
LIES
 
 newcastle has yet to sign any defenders
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 12, 2007, 05:47:00 pm
I would have added:
 
 41) You pick up a book to read this summer depsite the fact that you read it 15 times already and hate Arsenal.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 13, 2007, 08:36:00 am
nick takes some real shots at the toon in it too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 13, 2007, 10:47:00 am
42)Arsenal sign a non-english speaking player.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 13, 2007, 11:06:00 am
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42989000/jpg/_42989921_anderson_nani203.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 13, 2007, 04:55:00 pm
<img src="http://soccerlens.com/images/OwenHargreaves.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 14, 2007, 09:53:00 am
<img src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:q8IX78PytSbJ-M:http://www.carling.com/media/player_images/player-image-1058.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
     <img src="http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/03/47/giggs_ryan_mufc_profile_2006.jpg" alt=" - " />
     <img src="http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/GB/SP0351~Wayne-Rooney-Posters.jpg" alt=" - " />
     <img src="http://cimg.163.com/sport/0507/11/zhu31.jpg" alt=" - " />
     <img src="http://soccerlens.com/images/AngryFerdinand.jpg" alt=" - " />
     <img src="http://www.football.co.uk/shared/images/players/players_80903.jpg" alt=" - " />
     <img src="http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/03/51/neville_gary_mufc_profile_2006.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
     <img src="http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/03/47/carrick_michael_mufc_profile_2006.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 There's a few more.....lets try arseholes now shall we? Or any of the other alleged English premier league top contenders for that matter.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 14, 2007, 09:56:00 am
little sensitive, eh?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 18, 2007, 10:57:00 am
Congratulations to Becks and Real Madrid...sorry Barcelona, can't win em all!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on June 18, 2007, 11:55:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Congratulations to Becks and Real Madrid...sorry Barcelona, can't win em all!!
I disconnected from the Spanish League a few weeks ago after the draw at home with Betis. It is embarrassing how we have handed the league to Real Madrid in the last games. Lack of motivation, overconfidence? not sure. Still, Beckham's resume in Real Madrid has been really sad, one big championship and given as a gift. There is no merit in what Madrid did this year. We just threw it away at home with an incredible lack of motivation.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 20, 2007, 10:53:00 am
wow. just. wow
 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/06/19/bc.soc.galaxy.beckham.ap/index.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/06/19/bc.soc.galaxy.beckham.ap/index.html)
 
 Galaxy president Lalas says English soccer is inferior
 Posted: Tuesday June 19, 2007 10:30AM; Updated: Tuesday June 19, 2007 12:08PM
 
 Galaxy GM and former U.S. defender Alexi Lalas is known for his eyebrow-raising statements.
 Christian Petersen/AFP/Getty Images
   
   
 LONDON (AP) -- Alexi Lalas helped humiliate English soccer 14 years ago. It looks like he's trying to do it again.
 
 The Los Angeles Galaxy president, who scored when the United States beat England 2-0 in a friendly match in 1993, told British newspapers that Major League Soccer is on a par with the Premier League.
 
 Irked by suggestions that David Beckham is going into semiretirement by joining the Galaxy, Lalas said the only reason the English league is popular is because of American-style marketing.
 
 "The fact that a segment of the world worships an inferior product in the Premiership is their business," Lalas said in an interview with The Guardian published Tuesday.
 
 "In England, our league is considered second class, but I honestly believe if you took a helicopter and grabbed a bunch of MLS players and took them to the perceived best league in the world they wouldn't miss a beat and the fans wouldn't notice any drop in quality."
 
 Brian McBride and Clint Dempsey are among the American players in the Premier League, although they play for modest Fulham. None of the American players in England are stars of the caliber of those at teams such as Manchester United and Chelsea.
 
 McBride -- the third highest scorer in U.S. national team history with 30 goals -- scored nine times last season for Fulham, which finished 16th in the Premier League. His tally was 12 short of Didier Drogba's league-high 21 for Chelsea, and the same as Wigan's Emile Heskey and Aston Villa's Gabriel Agbonlahor.
 
 Despite criticizing the Premier League for sloganeering and over-marketing, Lalas claimed that, when he arrives, Beckham will have a higher profile in the United States than Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan.
 
 "The U.S. will never have dealt with an athlete who has had this kind of international impact," Lalas told The Mirror. "Tiger Woods has that international appeal but, with due respect to Woods and Michael Jordan, David Beckham is at an entirely different level."
 
 Lalas, a 37-year-old former United States defender, said his country's record at the past four World Cups compared favorably with that of England -- England has two underwhelming quarterfinal appearances to one for the U.S. -- and suggested almost all those who criticize the MLS have yet to see the league.
 
 However, several British papers were unimpressed by the Galaxy's 3-2 win over Real Salt Lake on Sunday.
 
 "The game was not without moments of quality ... (but) some of the defending from both sides was the type of stuff you watch through your fingers," according to The Mirror. "It was the football equivalent of a demolition derby.
 
 "The use of possession was alarmingly careless and the concept of marking appeared not to have found its way across the Atlantic."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 20, 2007, 12:24:00 pm
Lalas is a tool, and was barely average as a player, or a European team would've signed him like they do with all the better US players, of which there are many....and the only reason he's relatively well known is because of his retarded name and even more retarded hairstyle when he was playing.
 
 Beating any team in a friendly is meaningless, not talking the thrill of victory away from the US, but come onnnnnnn the England players were probably hung over and the US players playing in what was probably the biggest game of their lives at the time.
 
 He's trying to cause headlines because of the arrival of the great messiah to his small backwards village.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 20, 2007, 01:09:00 pm
he did play in serie a, but whatever
 
 i swear i saw him endorse us players going to europe to better their games. guy is good at getting people talking, i'll give him that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 20, 2007, 01:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  he did play in serie a, but whatever
 
 
Is that before or during the corruption in that league??? I should've said credible European league.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 20, 2007, 01:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Lalas is a tool
You said enough right there.
 
 Could you imagine Landy Cakes with an English team having to travel anywhere in England for an away match and not crapping himself?  Make it a Derby and he'll have an anxiety attack for sure.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 20, 2007, 01:23:00 pm
if padova pays people off, they do a shitty job of it
 
 i hate dissing a donovan, but even take dempsey, beasley and gooch. none of them have stuck for midtable teams
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 20, 2007, 01:44:00 pm
So sad, one year ago this is how I was spending my summer....
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HphVG_JFlHM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HphVG_JFlHM)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 20, 2007, 02:48:00 pm
Besides, isn't Lalas one of the Teletubbies?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 22, 2007, 11:14:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  beasley and gooch. none of them have stuck for midtable teams
I didn't realize that both of them had been cut from their squads.  Just a sad statement about US Soccer - I thought they had a chance, especially Onyewu.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 22, 2007, 11:41:00 am
gooch was rumored to resurface with birmingham, i think that might be off, though
 
 he was brought in to be the defensive savior and roeder hardly played him. he did seem to give up too many penalties too close to the box, but i really dont think he got a fair shake. all during the january transfer window glenn swore up and down that we'd see some defensive relief and come 2/1 we still have managerkiller bramble next to taylor. and anytime transfers were brought up he like to trumpet oba, who apparently has an 13 million pound out clause
 
 thank god he was sacked and ashley bought the club
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 28, 2007, 07:01:00 pm
Updated: June 27, 2007
 
 Beasley transferring to Rangers
 Associated Press
 
 GLASGOW, Scotland -- American midfielder DaMarcus Beasley transferred to Scotland's Glasgow Rangers on Wednesday.
 
 The 25-year-old, who helped the United States beat Mexico on Sunday in the CONCACAF Gold Cup final in Chicago, was injured for much of last season and played just 18 Premier League games for Manchester City. He was on loan to the English club from PSV Eindhoven.
 
 Beasley has signed a 3-year contract and, although Rangers did not reveal how much it paid PSV, reports said the fee was about $1.38 million.
 
 "I've got a couple of good friends who played at Rangers, Michael Ball and Claudio Reyna, and they had good things to say about the football club," Beasley said. "Claudio said that being at Rangers is like being part of a massive family. Everyone is nice. Everything is first class."
 
 Beasley has 15 goals in 68 international appearances. He won two Dutch Eredivisie titles with PSV.
 
 He is looking forward to helping Rangers qualify for the European Champions League. The qualifying draw will be held Friday.
 
 "It's a big draw," Beasley said. "I played two years there with PSV, and we had a great run in my first year there. We went to the semifinal and no one thought we could do it. We were a small club compared to Real Madrid, Chelsea, Barcelona and teams like that, so Rangers can do the same thing. I'm looking forward to starting that campaign. Hopefully, we will qualify, and I'm sure we will."
 
 Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on June 28, 2007, 11:04:00 pm
torres to liverpool for $54 million bucks
 
 crazy money even by Man U standards - will be v hard for him to live up to/justify that price tag
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 29, 2007, 10:51:00 am
Why in God's name would any quality player move to Scotland?
 
 And Chelski are the new benchmark for overpriced players, not United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 29, 2007, 11:28:00 am
he's spanish, so add 10 million (pound) to the regular price. what we call 'rafa prices'  :(  
 
 beasley was not exactly great last year, rangers seems actually a pretty good place for him
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 29, 2007, 12:36:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Why in God's name would any quality player move to Scotland?
 
Did you just call an American player "quality"?  You're slipping.
 
 He's going to crap himself before the first Old Firm match.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 29, 2007, 01:04:00 pm
20 minutes after waking up?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 29, 2007, 01:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Why in God's name would any quality player move to Scotland?
 
Did you just call an American player "quality"?  You're slipping.
 
 He's going to crap himself before the first Old Firm match. [/b]
I've said numerous times that the USA has quality players, they just need a quality coach so they can play to their full potential at the national level.
 
 And I know MIKE Owen is just to wind us up at this point.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 29, 2007, 01:26:00 pm
more to zong him for taking 2 years of absurd wages and costing us 7 million pounds...for not much. if he stays and plays, he can be michael again
 
 if he leaves, he might have to be mike hunt owen
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 05, 2007, 01:15:00 pm
United set to seal deal for Tevez?
 
 Argentina striker Carlos Tevez is close to sealing a move to Manchester United.
 
   
 The player, source of so much controversy for West Ham last season, is currently on international duty with Argentina in the Copa America.
 
 It is understood however that his representatives and United are close to sealing an agreement for the 23-year-old and he is set to sign once the tournament in Venezuela finishes on July 14.
 
 The details of the transfer remain unknown as Tevez is still under contract for three more years with West Ham.
 
 The Hammers are embroiled in a legal dispute with his agent Kia Joorabchian, who runs the company Media Sports Investment (MSI), after the club terminated an agreement giving the rights to any transfer fee for the player during transfer windows.
 
 Tevez's proposed move to United has been complicated by the fact he is still a registered West Ham player.
 
 The London club could dig their heels in and refuse to let him move without a fee, which would spark another legal wrangle.
 
 It is more likely however that they will decide the best way to end the whole controversy surrounding the player is to allow him to move on a free transfer, especially given that they did not pay a fee for him last summer.
 
 By not throwing a spanner in the works, it could also help West Ham end their legal dispute with Joorabchian which blew up after they unilaterally terminated all third-party agreements with him following Premier League action in April.
 
 Given the history surrounding the player, United are certain to go through all the paperwork in minute detail to ensure everything meets Premier League rules.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 06, 2007, 07:40:00 am
I'd rather we keep Alan Smith - at least he has nice teeth!  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 06, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
brilliant moves so far from manusa, hard to compliment them but...damn
 
 think they are adding depth for the champions league?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 06, 2007, 12:33:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  brilliant moves so far from manusa, hard to compliment them but...damn
 
 think they are adding depth for the champions league?
The Guardian was talking about there new 4-1-3-2 lineup for Europe, so it sure seems that way.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 16, 2007, 03:59:00 pm
Since I'm sure very few others were watching the u-20 World Cup this weekend, you probably missed out on the new Adidas commercial with Becks and Reggie Bush.  The whole thing was about 3 minutes long.  You can view it all in pieces here:
 
 http://www.futbolmeetsfootball.com/ (http://www.futbolmeetsfootball.com/)
 
 Or the actual commerical here:
 
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ii5CkiPdBSc (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ii5CkiPdBSc)
 
 Watching Becks juggle an American Football is beyond impressive.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on July 16, 2007, 06:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Since I'm sure very few others were watching the u-20 World Cup this weekend, you probably missed out on the new Adidas commercial with Becks and Reggie Bush.  The whole thing was about 3 minutes long.  You can view it all in pieces here:
 
  http://www.futbolmeetsfootball.com/ (http://www.futbolmeetsfootball.com/)
 
 Or the actual commerical here:
 
  http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ii5CkiPdBSc (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ii5CkiPdBSc)
 
 Watching Becks juggle an American Football is beyond impressive.
Agreed, but he looked completely ridiculous in the shoulder pads and helmet.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 16, 2007, 09:34:00 pm
You know, I read on some sports website that while they were warming up for that commercial Becks kicked a 64 yard field goal and broke the current NFL record - with his first kick of a runny-catchy ball. Bush was quoted as saying "Holy *&it, he's got a golden foot"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 17, 2007, 01:28:00 pm
The hot rumor for today is Freddie Adu to Spurs and not Celtic.  He earned a look after his performance in the U-20 World Cup, but I don't see him winning a full time place at Spurs at this juncture.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 17, 2007, 03:17:00 pm
interesting. would not have guessed that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 17, 2007, 05:58:00 pm
I could see him at Celtic but not in the top tier of the premiership - he wasn't even close to cutting the mustard at Man U.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on July 18, 2007, 06:45:00 am
Beckham adds no spice to U.S. fans' sports diet
 Rick Maese
 
 Rick Maese
 July 18, 2007
 
 He hasn't yet made his American debut, but David Beckham has already made the cover of Sports Illustrated. Five thousand fans showed up at the Home Depot Center last week - for a news conference. The paparazzi have abandoned our favorite food-deprived starlets to deliver us round-the-clock Beckham coverage.
 
 We're still a couple of days away from Beckham suiting up for the Los Angeles Galaxy and already soccer's summertime sideshow has made it easy to overlook the actual game Beckham's supposed to be weaving into the American fabric. But did we really expect anything else?
 
 
 "Say hello, America," beckons the ESPN commercial. "Beckham arrives Saturday." In that sense, Beckham feels more like a new Apple product or perhaps a storm front. As a pop culture phenomenon, he has certainly arrived.
 
 However, as some soccer knight whose footwork and gamesmanship are supposed to convert us into believers, he'll be as welcomed as a door-to-door Bible salesman. We don't need to witness a second of action to once again note that just because the rest of the world might be selling, American sports fans aren't buying. Not only are they hawking the wrong product, but they've chosen the wrong pitchman.
 
 From the fine folks who brought us warm beer and driving on the wrong side of the road comes this latest line of twisted logic: The world's most popular soccer player is charged with finally pushing the sport into the mainstream.
 
 You aren't going to sway a nation that prefers football to futbol by simply sending over the most popular athlete you can muster. If we collectively think the sport is boring to watch, the solution is not to send us someone who's mastered the boredom. That's like a television network airing an hour-long reality show on paint drying - and encouraging you to watch because the broadcast features the nicest, shiniest paint in the world. American sports fans aren't fooled by dimples and hard abs and a Spice Girl on one arm - to us, it's still paint drying.
 
 This isn't to suggest that Major League Soccer's venture won't garner attention. It most certainly will find some level of success. The Galaxy signing Beckham doesn't woo legions of new fans to the sport; instead, the new star is merely a vehicle for a fan base that's already had its soccer license for many years.
 
 That's why since the Beckham signing was announced six months ago, you haven't visited the water cooler at work and heard the Dallas Cowboys fan chatting up the Chicago Bulls fan about soccer. Those most excited to see Beckham in MLS are those already familiar with MLS.
 
 The prophecy is oft-repeated. Pele came to America in 1975, and while he sold some tickets and helped build the sport's identity here, three decades later we're still talking about some improbable day when every American newborn is handed a soccer ball on the way out of the delivery room.
 
 Put simply: In America, soccer is a wonderful participatory sport. For a variety of reasons, it is a terrible spectator event. That doesn't change with one man. In fact, you could bring in the top dozen European players and it wouldn't change. If you want American sports fans to take an interest, put Ray Lewis in a D.C. United jersey. Or even better, put Victoria Beckham in a Galaxy jersey.
 
 Like any niche sport, soccer's hard-core fans will revel in David Beckham's arrival. But even those who don't plan to catch more than a few minutes of an MLS game will find him difficult to ignore. We're a celebrity-infused culture, and Beckham no doubt intrigues us. But not as an athlete.
 
 Just as with a long line of pretty faces, our interest will have nothing to do with his talents. No more than we care about Paris Hilton because of her handbag collection or Tara Reid because of her method acting. Beckham's audience is more TMZ.com than ESPN.com; Entertainment Tonight, not Baseball Tonight.
 
 And only half of that interest is even attributed to Beckham. Among the Internet's top search subjects, Victoria Beckham was ranked No. 2 by Yahoo.com yesterday. And Mr. Posh Spice? He was No. 19. A safe guess is that those searches weren't all performed by newly converted soccerheads filling suburbia from Walla Walla, Wash., to Bangor, Maine.
 
 Ultimately, Beckham's paycheck parade across American soil won't be about increasing the sport's popularity. Beckham's popularity, maybe. But not soccer's. Meantime, we'll be force-fed updates on the Beckhams' shopping habits and dining decisions. Occasionally we might get a soccer score or two, but for the American appetite, that will never be anything more than garnish on our sports plate.
 
 It's not a point of pride, but in our glitter-obsessed culture, we care about who someone is, not what they do. In that sense, Beckham might make for a bland American sports star, but he's the perfect American celebrity.
 
 
 rick.maese@baltsun.com
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 18, 2007, 09:24:00 am
every column i've read has said the becks thing isnt going to work, and maybe it wont, but the whole 'it wont work because americans dont like soccer' seems vague and general to me
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on July 18, 2007, 11:09:00 am
One problem is that it doesn't seem like there is a sportswriter who actually likes soccer. Most of the articles and television commentary I've read or heard expresses what seems to be a generational bias against soccer. Sometimes it seems as though most sportswriters are of a certain age, and that age bracket did not develop an appreciation of soccer which comes out in their writing or commentary.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 18, 2007, 11:14:00 am
exactly. the guys 15 years older than them said the same things about nascar, i am sure
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 18, 2007, 11:46:00 am
I don't know.  There were over 1000 people at the Galaxy's practice on Monday.  The week before?  Zero.  I don't remember Pele ever getting anyone to watch a practice, especially one where he was injured.
 
 I for one, am excited about it, and I am rarely if ever excited about MLS.  So that's a new deomgraphic - people who like "football" who might actually watch a little more "soccer."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 18, 2007, 12:09:00 pm
the commentary is so far off. becks isnt a pele clone, mls has a business model based on not repeting nasl mistakes, ect.
 
 i just think its funny that the espn dudes seem to be trying so hard to not care about a league that's on their own network
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 19, 2007, 09:52:00 am
One player isn't going to knock the NFL off Sunday tv all day long, but he will attract attention to the game from those who have paid no attention to it in the past. It's not Beckhams job to keep them coming, it's the MLS's job by giving us a more entertaining and exciting product on the field.
 
 I'm a prime example - I'm just shy of obsessed with the sport but you couldn't pay me to sit through a 90 minute MLS match. It's boring, plain and simple. I'm sorry, but it is.
 
 Remember Chelski and all they've achieved since money bags took over? They still can't fill their ramshackle stadium because their game is boring. You have to give the fans something entertaining or they'll just won't pay to watch.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 20, 2007, 12:29:00 pm
It is with Great Pleasure that I bring you the first installment of the 2007-2008 TV Schedule:
 
 Saturday, August 11
 
 7:45 Sunderland v Tottenham Hotspur, Setanta Sports
 10:00 West Ham United v Manchester City, Fox Soccer Channel
 10:00 Bolton Wanderers v Newcastle United, Setanta Sports
 12:15 Aston Villa v Liverpool, Fox Soccer Channel
 2:30 Derby v Portsmouth [Tape Delay],Fox Soccer Channel
 
 Sunday, August 12
 
 8:30 Chelsea v Birmingham City, Setanta Sports
 11:00 Manchester United v Reading, Fox Soccer Channel
 
 Tuesday, August 14
 
 3:00 Tottenham Hotspur v Everton, Setanta Sports
 
 Wednesday, August 15
 
 3:00 Portsmouth v Manchester United, Setanta Sports
 
 Saturday, August 18
 
 7:45 Portsmouth v Bolton Wanderers, Setanta Sports
 10:00 Tottenham Hotspur v Derby County, Fox Soccer Channel
 10:00 Blackburn Rovers v Arsenal, Setanta Sports
 12:15 Newcastle United v Aston Villa, Fox Soccer Channel
 2:30 Wigan Athletic v Sunderland [Tape Delay], Fox Soccer Channel
 
 Sunday, August 19
 
 8:30 Manchester City v Manchester United, Setanta Sports
 11:00 Liverpool v Chelsea, Fox Soccer Channel
 
 Saturday, August 25
 
 7:45 Sunderland v Liverpool, Setanta Sports
 10:00 Arsenal v Manchester City, Fox Soccer Channel
 10:00 Chelsea v Portsmouth, Setanta Sports
 12:15 Everton v Blackburn Rovers, Fox Soccer Channel
 
 Sunday, August 26
 
 1:00AM Derby County v Birmingham City [Tape Delay], Fox Soccer Channel
 8:30 Middlesbrough v Newcastle United, Setanta Sports
 11:00 Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur,  Fox Soccer Channel
 
 Saturday, September 1
 
 10:00 Fulham v Tottenham Hotspur, Fox Soccer Channel
 12:15 Manchester United v Sunderland, Fox Soccer Channel
 6:00 Blackburn Rovers v Manchester City [Tape Delay], Fox Soccer Channel
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 20, 2007, 02:37:00 pm
fuck! only one fsc game, and i wont be moved in until early sept  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 25, 2007, 12:20:00 pm
'Family problems' to end Dyer's Newcastle career?
 
 Newcastle boss Sam Allardyce has admitted Kieron Dyer could leave the club over 'family problems'.
   
 The 28-year-old midfielder has been at the centre of speculation that he wants a move away from St James' Park after eight years for more than a week amid claims he is unhappy on Tyneside.
 
 Allardyce revealed at the weekend he would hold talks with the England international in an effort to discover his feelings, and having done so, is now attempting to resolve the issue.
 
 He said: 'At the moment, there's a problem from a family point of view and we have to try to see whether we can resolve that, and if we cannot, then that may well result in Kieron looking to leave the club for that reason and that reason alone.
 
 'That's the discussion we have had. It's obviously disappointing for me, but it is one I understand.
 
 'If somebody has got a problem they cannot resolve, then ultimately in the long run, it is better for the club and better for him if you can resolve that problem.
 
 'If that's away from here, then so be it.'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 25, 2007, 12:52:00 pm
his sister apparently got arrested in some sort of smack crack ring back in june
 
 on one hand he seems like the type of player that sam takes from being a misfit to a solid contributor, but on the other he's had 8 years and never shows much, and at 28 how much more does he have left. i say if someone offers ¬£5 million take it, get him off of the wage books
 
 supposedly we have cash, but who could we get?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 25, 2007, 03:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  his sister apparently got arrested in some sort of smack crack ring back in june
 
 on one hand he seems like the type of player that sam takes from being a misfit to a solid contributor, but on the other he's had 8 years and never shows much, and at 28 how much more does he have left. i say if someone offers ¬£5 million take it, get him off of the wage books
 
 supposedly we have cash, but who could we get?
He's been around that long?  I guess I've always thought of him as younger since we've all been waiting for him to "turn the corner" so to speak.
 
 I hear Tevez is still available and apparently anybody but Liverpool can have Heinze.  I have to wonder if all of those young midfielders who trasferred earlier to mid-table clubs are kicking themselves for not waiting a little bit.  I'd love to set-up Owen all season long at New Castle rather than whomever they're setting up now.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 25, 2007, 05:06:00 pm
my understanding is sam would love heinze, but either club or player is not interested
 
 i would guess he wants cl action, same with tevez
 
 but, yeah should be more firepower up front this year with viduka and owen. martins was our only real forward after christmas last year and he's third choice now
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 30, 2007, 01:13:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  interesting. would not have guessed that
All talk, apparently.
 
 This makes much more sense:
 
 Updated: July 30, 2007
 MLS star Adu poised to sign for Benfica
 Soccernet
 
 
 LISBON (AFP) - Freddy Adu, the most recognisable name in the Major League Soccer, was on Monday poised to sign a five year deal with Portuguese side Benfica.
 
 The Ghana-born Adu, 18, was twice named an MLS All-Star - in 2004 and 2006 - helped DC United capture the 2004 MLS Cup during his rookie season.
 
 According to press reports here Benfica have already paid out 1.5 million euros to recruit the United states international.
 
 Benfica are also due to sign Argentina duo Angel Di Maria and Andres Diaz.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 30, 2007, 06:18:00 pm
The wheels are just falling off the bus at Arsenal these days.  Too bad, because I really thought last year that they had enough young pieces to give Chelsea a run for second place in the next few years....
 
 Reyes gets wish in returning to Spain
 
 Arsenal have confirmed striker Jose Antonio Reyes has joined Atletico Madrid for an undisclosed fee.
 
 The Spain international's future has been the subject of speculation all summer after he made it clear he did not want to return to north London after a one-season loan at Real Madrid last year.
 
 Lyon, Atletico and Real were all in the running for his signature but the Rojiblancos have managed to add Reyes to their other summer signings including Diego Forlan and Simao Sabrosa.
 
 A statement on Atletico's official website reported Reyes has signed a four-year deal and will be unveiled at 10am on Tuesday.
 
 The 23-year-old Spain forward will then join up with his new team-mates ahead of the pre-season Amsterdam tournament at the weekend.
 
 Reyes spent last season on loan at Real Madrid, where he scored on the last day against Mallorca to help seal the win that brought the Primera Liga title back to the Bernabeu for the first time in four years.
 
 Unhappy with the climate in England, Reyes wanted to return to Spain, but an agreement between Arsenal and Real could not be reached.
 
 Reyes joined Arsenal from Sevilla in January 2004 and made a total of 110 appearances for the Gunners, scoring 23 goals.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on July 30, 2007, 06:26:00 pm
And who was going to say that Atletico de Madrid was going to steal a player from Real Madrid. Great!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 31, 2007, 11:21:00 am
are you guys selling deco or what?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on July 31, 2007, 11:50:00 am
I'm on the record in this thread as thinking that Adu is one of the most overrated players of all time. Has he done ANYTHING at Real Salt Lake this year?
 
 They'll have him for breakfast in Portugal.....
 
 
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  interesting. would not have guessed that
All talk, apparently.
 
 This makes much more sense:
 
 Updated: July 30, 2007
 MLS star Adu poised to sign for Benfica
 Soccernet
 
 
 LISBON (AFP) - Freddy Adu, the most recognisable name in the Major League Soccer, was on Monday poised to sign a five year deal with Portuguese side Benfica.
 
 The Ghana-born Adu, 18, was twice named an MLS All-Star - in 2004 and 2006 - helped DC United capture the 2004 MLS Cup during his rookie season.
 
 According to press reports here Benfica have already paid out 1.5 million euros to recruit the United states international.
 
 Benfica are also due to sign Argentina duo Angel Di Maria and Andres Diaz. [/b]
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 31, 2007, 11:58:00 am
he was the best player at the under-20's. that's enough for a deal
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 31, 2007, 12:33:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  I'm on the record in this thread as thinking that Adu is one of the most overrated players of all time. Has he done ANYTHING at Real Salt Lake this year?
 
 They'll have him for breakfast in Portugal.....
 
I was firmly in your camp until I saw him surrounded with some decent talent in the Gold cup and Fifa Under 20.  He plays well with others around him that know how to run to open space.  At DC and Real SL, his individual skills shine, but he looks like a ball hog because after he beats one player and there's no one to pass to, he turns it over.  That wasn't the case when the Americans that play in Europe were around him in the Gold Cup and Under 20's.  
 
 I'm not saying he's the next Pele because he's not (nor did I ever think he would be), but he's going to be good with other good talent around him.  Portugal will suit him fine.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on July 31, 2007, 02:37:00 pm
Isn't Newcastle really just another mid-table club, though?
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  his sister apparently got arrested in some sort of smack crack ring back in june
 
 on one hand he seems like the type of player that sam takes from being a misfit to a solid contributor, but on the other he's had 8 years and never shows much, and at 28 how much more does he have left. i say if someone offers ¬£5 million take it, get him off of the wage books
 
 supposedly we have cash, but who could we get?
He's been around that long?  I guess I've always thought of him as younger since we've all been waiting for him to "turn the corner" so to speak.
 
 I hear Tevez is still available and apparently anybody but Liverpool can have Heinze.  I have to wonder if all of those young midfielders who trasferred earlier to mid-table clubs are kicking themselves for not waiting a little bit.  I'd love to set-up Owen all season long at New Castle rather than whomever they're setting up now. [/b]
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 31, 2007, 03:05:00 pm
every other midtable team has michael owen? interesting
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 03, 2007, 03:37:00 pm
4.15pm update
 
 West Ham finally agree to release Tevez
 
 Premier League ratifies deal which frees striker's way to Manchester United
 
 Friday August 3, 2007
 Guardian Unlimited
 
 
 One of this summer's most arduous transfer sagas appears to have come to a close after West Ham confirmed that they have agreed a ¬£2m settlement with Media Sports Investments, the representatives of Carlos Tevez, which will allow the striker to leave the club.
 
 Tevez, who passed a medical at Old Trafford this morning with a view to a two-year loan deal, is expected to be confirmed as a Manchester United player early next week, when the move's official paperwork goes through.
 
 
 The agreement confirms that West Ham have a valid player's contract with Tevez and that they hold his playing registration. United, meanwhile, will pay around ¬£5m per year, and have the option of making the deal permanent.
 
 Tevez will earn around ¬£3.5m a season and could make his debut against Reading at Old Trafford on Sunday week.
 
 The Premier League has ratified the deal, revealing it is satisfied that West Ham had behaved in line with their undertakings when they terminated the third-part deals with Joorabchian in April. "The Premier League can confirm that its board has received and considered a proposal for the settlement of the dispute between Carlos Tevez and West Ham," read a statement.
 
 "The decision of the board, having received leading counsel's opinion, is that the agreement reached is compliant with the rules of the Premier League and consistent with the undertakings given by West Ham United to the Premier League board at various times since April 27 2007. This will lead to the cancellation of Tevez's registration, thereby releasing him to join another club in due course."
 
 Joorabchian confirmed the agreement brings to a close the legal proceedings he had set in motion against the club. "We are delighted that a settlement has been reached between all parties to secure Carlos Tevez's move from West Ham United to Manchester United," said Joorabchian.
 
 "Our primary concern has always been to resolve this issue amicably and to allow Carlos to pursue his ambition to play for Manchester United. Carlos is looking forward to being a Manchester United player and his ambition is close to being achieved. We would like to thank Manchester United for all their patience and support throughout."
 
 The West Ham chairman Eggert Magnusson was relieved the affair has finally been concluded. "All parties involved can now move on and truly focus on the new season," he said. "I wish Carlos Tevez well for the next stage of his playing career. He is a fine player and I am sure he will be successful wherever he plays football. Personally, I am looking forward to the next stage of our development as a club and for what I hope will be a very exciting new season in the Premier League."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 10, 2007, 11:07:00 am
are we going to talk about THE EVE OF THE NEW SEASON today
 
 i am trying REALLY REALLY hard not to get my hopes up too high. but, i am glad that i have something to do saturday mornings again
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2007, 11:28:00 am
Well, I'm about to get on a plane to start the season with my brother-in-law, yet another Man U supporter, but I'll be in the airport for a while so why not?
 
 I think Alan Smith is going to make The Toon tougher up front, but the deficiencies in the back haven't been shored up yet.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 10, 2007, 11:46:00 am
hard to believe last year ended with sibierski being an automatic upfront selection
 
 rosenthal, enrique, and cacapa are all nice additions, but the biggest move was finally getting rid of stupid ass bramble. and all of this for just 14 million? shows how bad freddy/roeder were
 
 smith might see some time in the midfield too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 10, 2007, 12:21:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  are you guys selling deco or what?
I'm afraid that wither Deco or Ronaldinho will leave Barcelona before the end of the month. Milan are trying to do the impossible to get Ronaldinho. As for Deco, I thought Chelsea wanted him, but I am not sure now since Ballack said no to Madrid (now I like him!).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2007, 12:23:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  smith might see some time in the midfield too
He didn't quite work out as well as United hoped as a midfielder.  Though Fergie will never admit it publicly, he signed Smith with the hopes of replacing Keane, but Smith wasn't up to the task of being the stopper.  But up front with Rooney?  See the second leg of the Roma Champions League match for the answer to that question.  I think he'll compliment Owen nicely - he's fearless, just needs to work on his timing.
 
 Bolton is not the most friendly draw for New Castle to start, even before the Allardyce switch.  I'm looking forward to watching that one for sure.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 10, 2007, 12:34:00 pm
the theory is that smith might be played more as an attacking midfield or wide player, more to replace dyer. either way he there will be fights for spots, assuming that dukes, mikey and smudger can all stay healthy, or in owen's case get healthy   :roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2007, 12:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  the theory is that smith might be played more as an attacking midfield or wide player, more to replace dyer. either way he there will be fights for spots, assuming that dukes, mikey and smudger can all stay healthy, or in owen's case get healthy     :roll:  
I could see that.  United actually played a 4-3-2-1 in that Roma game and Smith was one of the 2's.
 
 And Barca, I don't see Rhonaldino going to Milan, but I do see Deco leaving.  I think you're right though, he wanted Chelski and with Ballack staying, that makes it tough to see him at Chelski.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 10, 2007, 12:50:00 pm
see big sam isnt married to the 4-4-2 like roeder was, so i would expect some 4-3-3, 4-3-2-1, 4-5-1 formations, so smudger is a great fit for that
 
 also, i fully expect manusa to carry the league. any ideas as to who gets the fourth cl spot this year (i bet mankie picks chelski    ;)    )
 
 we've been linked to deco, but with dyer staying at least for now, i think the 15 million tag is a bit much, and he wants cl action
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2007, 01:54:00 pm
I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK ARSENAL IS GUARANTEED THE THIRD SPOT THIS YEAR.  THEY'VE GOT A TON VETERAN LEADERSHIP TO REPLACE AND WENGER COMPLETELY UNDERESTIMATES THAT (SEE VIERA).  I LIKE TOTTENHAM AFTER KEEPING BERBATOV, NEWCASTLE AND SINCE THOSE ARE SAFE PICKS, I'LL THROW READING IN THE MIX.
 
 SORRY ABOUT THE ALL CAPS.  HAVING PHONE TROUBLES.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on August 10, 2007, 02:19:00 pm
what was the most impressive stadium you've ever seen a soccer match in?
 
 while in brazil recently, i caught a sold-out game at rio's  maracana stadium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Est%C3%A1dio_do_Maracan%C3%A3).  official capacity is now 93,000 but there were definitely more people there as all the aisles were packed too (sneaking in without a ticket was apparently easy to do).  it was during the pan-american games, where the brazilian women's team beat the US.  i went there to experience a cultural event, and the crowd provided one: two hours of dancing, chanting, booing and generally going nuts for the national team.  the game itself was relatively boring (a 5-0 brazilian blowout, two of the goals were really pretty) but i wasn't there for the game really.  the roar from the 100k+ crowd that followed each goal, and when the ref signaled that the game was over, was deafening.  despite its age - or maybe because of it - the stadium still looks really good.
 
 added bonus: it was a double-header, i got to see the canadian women win the bronze medal before the gold-medal game.  even got my section to cheer for them when they received their medals during the awards ceremony afterwards      :)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2007, 02:36:00 pm
Because I have yet to see Old Trafford, I'll go with Olympic Stadion, in Berlin during the World Cup.  I have seen the Bernabou and Nou Camp, but didn't get to watch a game (just a tour).
 
 The Rose Bowl for the 94 Wold Cup final was impressive as is the LA Coliseum when the Mexican National Team or Chivas is playing.
 
 I'll be seeing the Home Depot Center next week which, by American standards is a good soccer only venue, I hear.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 13, 2007, 01:27:00 pm
just so everyone knows, i am totally rooting for Newcastle United this year.  I have no real idea why other than i watched the match the other day and they're officially my boys.
 
 cause i feel the need to have a team over there, lol.
 
 so step off.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on August 13, 2007, 01:29:00 pm
I drank a Newcastle with the burrito I made last night.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 13, 2007, 01:43:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by le sonick:
  just so everyone knows, i am totally rooting for Newcastle United this year.  I have no real idea why other than i watched the match the other day and they're officially my boys.
 
 cause i feel the need to have a team over there, lol.
 
 so step off.
good choice. one of my friends is trying to pick a team, and everton is his other choice   :roll:  
 
 i was one happy little god this weekend
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 13, 2007, 07:52:00 pm
A change for the mid-week TV schedule:
 
 
 Tuesday August 14
 
 3:00 PM Tottenham v Everton (Set)
 
 
 Wednesday August 15
 
 3:00 PM Portsmouth v Man Utd (Set)
 3:00 PM Reading v. Chelsea (FSC)    
 5:00 PM Fulham v. Bolton (FSC Delayed)  
 5:00 PM Champions League Qualifier - Sparta Prague v Arsenal (Set Delayed)
 6:45 PM Man City v Derby (Set Delayed)
 8:30 PM Birmingham v Sunderland (Set Delayed)
 
 Thursday August 16
 
 8:00 PM Uefa Champions League Qualifier - Rangers v Red Star (Set Delayed)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 13, 2007, 09:11:00 pm
and yay for the fact that with my dish package upgrade i have Setanta, Fox Soccer Channel and Gol TV!!
 
 with that, hockey and the sox i may be able to avoid the NFL altogether...save the games being 5 blocks from my house 8 times a year!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 14, 2007, 08:12:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by le sonick:
  and yay for the fact that with my dish package upgrade i have Setanta, Fox Soccer Channel and Gol TV!!
 
Welcome to 2005.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 14, 2007, 09:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by le sonick:
  and yay for the fact that with my dish package upgrade i have Setanta, Fox Soccer Channel and Gol TV!!
 
Welcome to 2005. [/b]
you know, just because i didnt feel the need to pay $100 a month for 300 channels doesnt mean i'm behind the times!!!!!!!
 
 i had the $34.99 package and since i will be home a lot more this fall (home renovations and being completely broke from weddingland) i figured i would just pay the extra $30 and get all the channels.
 
 oh, and dishnetwork is getting 5 more HD channels starting tomorrow. you thought Meerkat Manor was cool before.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 15, 2007, 01:45:00 pm
Just busting your chops....I'm glad you're watching EPL.
 
 Which reminds me: United's Lineup today will feature Nanni, Tevez, Anderson, and Hargreaves.  With 4 guys who've never played together, they'll be lucky to get a draw today as well.
 
 Paging Dr. Mankie.  Paging Dr. Mankie.  Your presence is requested in the footie thread.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 15, 2007, 04:12:00 pm
no! stay away, toon army now outnumbers the prawn sandwich brigade
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 17, 2007, 03:44:00 pm
There were some changes to my previous post.....
 
 Saturday, August 18
 
 7:30 Portsmouth v Bolton Wanderers (Set)
 10:00 Reading v Everton(FSC)
 10:00 Tottenham v Derby (Set)
 12:00 Newcastle v Aston Villa (FSC)
 2:30 Birmingham v West Ham (Set)
 2:30 Wigan v Sunderland (FSC Delay)
 
 Sunday, August 19
 
 8:30 Man City v Man United (Set)
 11:00 Liverpool v Chelsea (FSC)
 2:30 Blackburn v Arsenal (FSC Delay)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 17, 2007, 04:31:00 pm
United's season officially starts on Sunday - They got the pre-season schedule mixed up with the first two games of the season!  ;)
 
 No Rooney is a total bummer, and Ronaldo out for three games doesn't help. It's going to take a while for the new players to fit in, but I predict the Premiership and Champions League for United this season.....Newcastle top 4 and Everton top 6.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 17, 2007, 04:47:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Newcastle top 4
i like that part
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2007, 05:42:00 pm
This will likely end his career....
 
 McBride dislocates knee as Fulham loses
 Updated: Aug. 18, 2007
 Associated Press
 
 
 LONDON -- Brian McBride dislocated his left knee while scoring for Fulham in a 2-1 loss at home to Middlesbrough in the Premier League on Saturday.  
 
 The American striker had no opponent close to him when a cross from Alexei Smertin found him unmarked in the penalty area in the 16th minute. He turned and shot the ball into the net from close range before collapsing.
 
 McBride was treated for several minutes and then carried from the field. He was soon followed to the hospital by teammate Hameur Bouazze, who dislocated his shoulder in the 31st minute.
 
 A late tying goal by Fulham's David Healy was disallowed even through TV replays suggested the ball crossed the line.
 
 "A bad day all round at the office,"' manager Lawrie Sanchez said.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 19, 2007, 10:42:00 am
If this year Chelsea is like a couple years ago where it was so difficult for them to lose any point, then I think Manchester United may have already lost the premiership. I hope it is not the case though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 20, 2007, 10:22:00 am
though, this is my first year checking in with EPL, I wont get too deep into discussion other than to say that Liverpool got completely ripped off this past weekend by poor officiating.  i hope that was a rare occurance cause it was quite frustrating to watch.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 20, 2007, 10:24:00 am
Dear Mankies football friends,
 
 Little Mankie is feeling a bit under the weather at the moment so won't be joining in the conversation for a while.
 
 Yesterday after the final whistle fell, he was heard screaming "LORD TAKE ME NOW" then we heard a bump in his bedroom. When we rushed up to his room he was on the floor in convulsions uttering words such as "Eff'n shity, blue bastards and Sven the twat"
 
 The doctor says little Mankie doing as well as can be expected under the circumstances.
 
 It's a hard time for us all, please pray for him.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Mankie's mum
 Mrs. Mank
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 20, 2007, 11:50:00 am
thanks for letting us know that manc hasnt jumped off a building
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 20, 2007, 12:01:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by le sonick:
  though, this is my first year checking in with EPL, I wont get too deep into discussion other than to say that Liverpool got completely ripped off this past weekend by poor officiating.  i hope that was a rare occurance cause it was quite frustrating to watch.
You are correct, Liverpool were hard done by that call.
 
 The Arsenal-Blackburn match was quite entertaining as well - a very chippy affair.
 
 I'll let Mankie's comments handle the United match.  United dominated everything but the scoreline.  Simply couldn't finish.
 
 The Toon are looking strong - how much do I love watching Alan Smith run around and terrorize people?  I certainly miss his presence with Rooney out.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 20, 2007, 04:58:00 pm
with that midfield, no one is going to want to play newcastle. and this is without barton
 
 i think the toon's main issue is lack of creativity, with the exception of jimmy. might improve when barton and butt come back, or if emre ever decides to play
 
 still might get a couple of right backs before the window closes, which will be a boost
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 20, 2007, 05:04:00 pm
I heard a rumor that Owen subbed late in the match against Villa, but I never saw him out there...  :p
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 20, 2007, 05:11:00 pm
i'm sure he'll get injured for england.  :roll:   i think most supporters see owen as a bonus if he's around, but arent counting on it. to be honest, i think sam agrees
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 20, 2007, 05:25:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  I heard a rumor that Owen subbed late in the match against Villa, but I never saw him out there...   :p  
he did, he came in around 61' or thereabouts.
 
  he got like a standing ovation almost. no clue who he is, haha, but i definitely remember the hoo-ha that was his entrance into the game.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 20, 2007, 05:31:00 pm
I forgot to use my Sarcasm tabs again...
 
 I saw him.  I was pointing out that after waiting almost 2 years for his arrival, he was rather a non-factor throughout the waning moments of the match.  Just a little jibe at the Toon faithful.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sonickteam2 on August 20, 2007, 05:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  I forgot to use my Sarcasm tabs again...
 
 I saw him.  I was pointing out that after waiting almost 2 years for his arrival, he was rather a non-factor throughout the waning moments of the match.  Just a little jibe at the Toon faithful.
of course.  yeah, i was going to add that although he made quite the entrance, i didnt see much of him after that, which made me think "who was that guy anyway"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 20, 2007, 09:30:00 pm
you're really starting from scratch, its cool though
 
 he's kind of like paul kariya except gets hurt more
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 20, 2007, 10:39:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  he's kind of like paul kariya except gets hurt more
Not only did I laugh out loud at this, I actually gave you a small clap as well.  Great analogy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 21, 2007, 09:18:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  with that midfield, no one is going to want to play newcastle. and this is without barton
 
 i think the toon's main issue is lack of creativity, with the exception of jimmy. might improve when barton and butt come back, or if emre ever decides to play
 
 still might get a couple of right backs before the window closes, which will be a boost
The fact that they hired big Sam pretty much confirms that they weren't going for 'creativity'....he's the master of the long ball and bullying tactics, which worked fine for him at Bolton, but creativity just isn't his bag.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2007, 09:22:00 am
he did that at bolton because he could not afford world class creativity. now he can
 
 maybe you're right, but the we'll see
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 21, 2007, 09:34:00 am
Quote of the week....
 
 "Don't hoover up while Chelsea are playing because if you knock the telly, Robben will fall over."
 Former Dutch international Ruud Gullit quotes chaos theory scientists to give his verdict on Chelsea!
 
 (hoover = vacuum)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 21, 2007, 11:43:00 am
good article on adu (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=455314&root=europe&cc=5739&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 21, 2007, 11:52:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  good article on adu (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=455314&root=europe&cc=5739&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
Adufus if you ask me..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on August 21, 2007, 11:55:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  good article on adu (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=455314&root=europe&cc=5739&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1)
Adufus if you ask me.. [/b]
well thats pretty much the gist of the article....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2007, 12:04:00 pm
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455386&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455386&cc=5901)
 STAY AWAY   :mad:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2007, 12:10:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455386&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455386&cc=5901)
 STAY AWAY    :mad:  
It's interesting - Fergie has normally stayed away from the African nationals, but in this case, with Rooney returning right as the African Nations Cup starts, it makes a little sense.  I don't see him doing it, but it makes sense.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2007, 12:19:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   Adufus if you ask me..
well thats pretty much the gist of the article.... [/b]
That's a little bit unfair.  
 
 He had been with Benefica for two weeks before that Champions League match - that's a little early to see significant playing time.  
 
 Now, had the article pointed out that he was a little hesitant when he did crack the squad at the 36th minute, it would have been more fair.  By the 70th minute, he was as bad as the rest of the team - that Benefica team looked awful against Copenhagen and I'm not surprised at all the manager was sacked.  Rui Costa was the only Benefica player worth a damn in that match. It was a typical Adu game - a few nice passes on runs down the side, but mostly a little lost in the middle.  He's 18, give him time to adjust to a new league and much better competition.  It was also his first UEFA match - I would have been a little in awe myself.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 21, 2007, 12:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455386&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=455386&cc=5901)  
 STAY AWAY     :mad:  
It's interesting - Fergie has normally stayed away from the African nationals, but in this case, with Rooney returning right as the African Nations Cup starts, it makes a little sense.  I don't see him doing it, but it makes sense. [/b]
supposedly anelka berbatov and huntelaar are in the mix too, so at least its quality. makes less sense to go for a smaller forward
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2007, 12:39:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  supposedly anelka berbatov and huntelaar are in the mix too, so at least its quality. makes less sense to go for a smaller forward
But any of those three would create a log jam when Rooney and Glass, I mean Saha, return.  Unless Saha is sold (but who'd take him, really), I don't see anyone but Martins making sense.  I think Berbatov was a fallback if Tevez wasn't aquired, and I just don't see United doing that with Tevez and Rooney already on the roster.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 21, 2007, 01:08:00 pm
Wednesday, August 22
 
 12:00 Armenia v Portugal Euro Qualifier (Set)
 2:30 Sweden v. USA Friendly (FSC)
 2:45 Belgium v Serbia Euro Qualifier (Set)
 4:45 Russia v Poland Friendly (Set)
 5:00 England v. Germany Friendly (FSC Delayed)
 6:30 Bosnia v Croatia Friendly (Set)
   
 
 Thursday, August 23
 
 5:15 Denmark v Ireland Friendly (Set Delayed)
 
 Two questions:
 
 How long until Owen hurts himself?  I'll make it easy - first half or second half?
 
 If Terry doesn't start and with Gerard out, does McClaren make Becks Captain again?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 22, 2007, 11:54:00 am
still cant believe that england cant seem to get any forwards to start for them besides crouch, owen and rooney, especially with two of those being hurt all the time
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 22, 2007, 12:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  supposedly anelka berbatov and huntelaar are in the mix too, so at least its quality. makes less sense to go for a smaller forward
But any of those three would create a log jam when Rooney and Glass, I mean Saha, return.  Unless Saha is sold (but who'd take him, really), I don't see anyone but Martins making sense.  I think Berbatov was a fallback if Tevez wasn't aquired, and I just don't see United doing that with Tevez and Rooney already on the roster. [/b]
I said it....but Fergie never listened to me. Where is Alan Smith when we really need him?
 
 We should've dumped Saha for 20 quid plus his medical bills and gave the physio a bit of a break, and kept Smith. He never got a chance at United. First of all they play him out of his natural position in midfield to try to fill Keanes boots, then he had that horrendous injury and was shipped out before getting match fit again.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 22, 2007, 12:31:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  I said it....but Fergie never listened to me. Where is Alan Smith when we really need him?
 
I don't think this was all Fergie's doing.  I can remember him saying that he expected Smudge to stay at OT because of all the hard work and support the team put in to rebuilding his knee, but he went on to say that if Smith wanted a first choice starting position, he wouldn't stop him from moving either.  I think Smith might have asked for a transfer and it was granted.
 
 Of course Fergie could have taken the hard line approach like he has with Heinze, but I don't expect Heinze to remain at OT.  I just know he won't be going to Liverpool either.  He's heading back to France.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 22, 2007, 12:41:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  still cant believe that england cant seem to get any forwards to start for them besides crouch, owen and rooney, especially with two of those being hurt all the time
I don't know what you're complaining about - you'll get a first glimpse of Owen and Smith up front.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 22, 2007, 12:57:00 pm
see, as a toon suporter i really dont have a huge problem with it (although i'd like to see jimmy mils get a run out)
 
 as a fan of english football, i dont want to see all of my favorite player's euro chances hanging on players who are always hurt or cant get a game with their club
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 23, 2007, 06:52:00 pm
My thoughts from the past few days....
 
 Micah Richards won't play for City next season.  He might be in Manchester next year, but he won't be wearing blue.
 
 Which has proven to be a bigger problem for England in the last 5-10 years:  Giggs being Welsh or Howard, Keller, Freidel, or (insert any other American keeper here) not being English?
 
 Casper Schmeichel makes me feel old.
 
 I was wrong but right - Heinze went overseas, just not to France.
 
 Spain is the perfect place for the diving Robben.  In hindsight, I'm glad United didn't sign him, though I was pissed when it happened.
 
 That was a blatant push in the US game that led to the Swedish goal.  A very unfortunate result.
 
 Lehmann's not injured.  He's just retarded.
 
 And with that, the next round of games:
 
 Saturday, August 25th
 
 7:30 Sunderland v Liverpool (Set)
 10:00 Chelsea v Portsmouth (Set)
 10:00 Arsenal v Manchester City (FSC)
 12:00 Everton v Blackburn (FSC)  
 4:30 Aston Villa v Fulham (Set Delayed)
 1:30am Derby v Birmingham  (FSC Delayed)  
 
  Sunday, August 26
 
 8:30 Middlesbrough v Newcastle Utd (Set)
 11:00 Manchester United v Tottenham  (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 24, 2007, 04:35:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Which has proven to be a bigger problem for England in the last 5-10 years:  Giggs being Welsh or Howard, Keller, Freidel, or (insert any other American keeper here) not being English?
 
given and keane being irish
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 25, 2007, 09:47:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Which has proven to be a bigger problem for England in the last 5-10 years:  Giggs being Welsh or Howard, Keller, Freidel, or (insert any other American keeper here) not being English?
 
given and keane being irish [/b]
Roy, not Robbie...Robbie would never make the England sqaud.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 25, 2007, 10:41:00 am
roy to manage was my intent there
 
 really, i just wanted to say shay
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 25, 2007, 11:09:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  roy to manage was my intent there
 
 really, i just wanted to say shay
Roy would never manage England even if offered the job...neither would Fergie for that matter.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2007, 11:29:00 am
My hero has retired....
 
   <img src="http://soccernet-akamai.espn.go.com/design05/images/domr/solskjaergoal_g.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 It's going to be quite difficult to convince Smackette to name our first child Ole Gunnar now.....
 
 Manchester United hero Solskjaer reitres
 
 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has brought the curtain down on his glorious playing career with Manchester United - but his Old Trafford days are from over.
 
 After 11 years and 366 appearances for the club he joined for a bargain ¬£1.5million from Norwegian side Molde, Solskjaer has had to finally call it a day due to an ongoing knee injury.
 
 Striker Solskjaer, who famously scored the winner in the Champions League final against Bayern Munich to help the club win the treble in 1999, has made several comebacks in the last four years.
 
 More... (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=457639&cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 28, 2007, 12:02:00 pm
heh, i thought you'd be totally gutted
 
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  roy to manage was my intent there
 
 really, i just wanted to say shay
Roy would never manage England even if offered the job...neither would Fergie for that matter. [/b]
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 really, i just wanted to say shay
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2007, 12:45:00 pm
I nearly forgot that Gol TV has some Champions League matches this season....
 
 Tuesday, August 28
 
 3:00 Liverpool v Toulouse UEFA Champions League 2nd Leg
 
 
 Gol TV is channel 614 on D*TV, 268 on Comcast DC Cable, 407 on Dish Netwok, and 313 on FiOS.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 28, 2007, 01:13:00 pm
Spain international Antonio Puerta has died after suffering a heart attack in his club side Sevilla's 4-1 win against Getafe on Saturday.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6964586.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6964586.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 28, 2007, 01:14:00 pm
Manchester United striker Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has retired from football.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6966229.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6966229.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2007, 01:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Manchester United striker Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has retired from football.
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6966229.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6966229.stm)
Ahem, 4 posts up.  I'm crushed, but it's probably for the better.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on August 28, 2007, 09:21:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Spain international Antonio Puerta has died after suffering a heart attack in his club side Sevilla's 4-1 win against Getafe on Saturday.
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6964586.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/6964586.stm)
Really sad story, poor guy and poor famiy.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on August 30, 2007, 02:37:00 am
is this what british research dollars are being spent on - proving the worthlessness of their football exports?!?  :p    
 
  Study: T-rex could outrun David Beckham (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/22/dinosaur.speed.reut/index.html)
 
 LONDON, England (Reuters) -- The smallest dinosaur could reach speeds of nearly 40 miles per hour and even the lumbering Tyrannosaurus rex would have been able to outrun most modern-day sportsmen, according to research published on Wednesday.
 
 Scientists using computer models calculated the top speeds for five meat-eating dinosaurs in a study they say can also illustrate how animals cope with climate change and extinction.
 
 The velociraptor, whose speed and ferocity was highlighted in the film "Jurassic Park", reached 24 miles per hour while the T-rex could muster speeds of up to 18 miles per hour, the study published in the Royal Society's Biological Sciences showed.
 
 "Our research, which used the minimum leg-muscle mass T-rex required for movement, suggests that while not incredibly fast, this carnivore was certainly capable of running and would have little difficulty in chasing down footballer David Beckham, for instance," said Phil Manning, a paleontologist at the University of Manchester, who worked on the study.   Continued... (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/22/dinosaur.speed.reut/index.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on August 30, 2007, 09:16:00 am
haha scumderland
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 30, 2007, 09:21:00 am
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
  is this what british research dollars are being spent on - proving the worthlessness of their football exports?!?   :p    
 
  Study: T-rex could outrun David Beckham (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/22/dinosaur.speed.reut/index.html)
 
 LONDON, England (Reuters) -- The smallest dinosaur could reach speeds of nearly 40 miles per hour and even the lumbering Tyrannosaurus rex would have been able to outrun most modern-day sportsmen, according to research published on Wednesday.
 
 Scientists using computer models calculated the top speeds for five meat-eating dinosaurs in a study they say can also illustrate how animals cope with climate change and extinction.
 
 The velociraptor, whose speed and ferocity was highlighted in the film "Jurassic Park", reached 24 miles per hour while the T-rex could muster speeds of up to 18 miles per hour, the study published in the Royal Society's Biological Sciences showed.
 
 "Our research, which used the minimum leg-muscle mass T-rex required for movement, suggests that while not incredibly fast, this carnivore was certainly capable of running and would have little difficulty in chasing down footballer David Beckham, for instance," said Phil Manning, a paleontologist at the University of Manchester, who worked on the study.   Continued... (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science/08/22/dinosaur.speed.reut/index.html)
Two minor points here.....Beckham has never been known to be fast, and I bet you this months paycheck a dinosaur cannot pass a ball with the accuracy of Beck's, or a dinosaur has never shagged a Spice Girl...Okay Robbie Williams nailed Ginger, but that's the only one.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 30, 2007, 09:22:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Manchester United striker Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has retired from football.
 
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6966229.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6966229.stm)  
Ahem, 4 posts up.  I'm crushed, but it's probably for the better. [/b]
My apologies, I realized that later but I was in a hurry so just posted the two stories.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 30, 2007, 10:28:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 Two minor points here.....Beckham has never been known to be fast, and I bet you this months paycheck a dinosaur cannot pass a ball with the accuracy of Beck's, or a dinosaur has never shagged a Spice Girl...Okay Robbie Williams nailed Ginger, but that's the only one.
hahaha
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Post by: sweetcell on August 30, 2007, 10:37:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 or a dinosaur has never shagged a Spice Girl...Okay Robbie Williams nailed Ginger, but that's the only one.
might well be post of the week.
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Post by: vansmack on August 30, 2007, 01:44:00 pm
Champions League Draw:
 
 Group A
 
   Liverpool /  Porto /  Marseille /   Besiktas
   
 Group B
   
   Chelsea /  Valencia /   Schalke /   Rosenborg
 
 Group C
 
   Real Madrid  /  Werder Bremen /  Lazio /  Olympiakos
 
 Group D
 
   AC Milan  /   Benfica /   Celtic /   Shakhtar Donetsk
 
 Group E
 
   Barcelona /  Lyon /   Stuttgart / Rangers
 
 Group F
 
   Manchester United /  Roma /  Sporting Lisbon /   Dynamo Kiev
 
 Group G
 
   Inter Milan /   PSV Eindhoven /   CSKA Moscow /
   Fenerbahce
 
 Group H
 
   Arsenal /   Sevilla or AEK Athens* /   Steaua Bucharest /   Slavia Prague
 
 Thoughts?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 30, 2007, 02:32:00 pm
dont have a dog in this fight, but man u's group looks fairly tough. rangers dont have a prayer (not that they ever do) which makes me happy
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on August 30, 2007, 05:45:00 pm
United are in the group of death, Chelski and scum get it relatively easy yet again. You have to beat the best to win the final anyway, so bring em on early.
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Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2007, 01:19:00 pm
Saturday, Sept 1
 
 10am Liverpool v Derby County (Set)
 10am Fulham v Tottenham (FSC)
 12pm Manchester United v Sunderland (FSC)
 2:30pm Reading v West Ham (Set)
 4:15pm Middlesbrough v Birmingham City (Set)
 4:30pm Newcastle v Wigan (FCS)  
 
 
 Sunday, Sept 2
 
 8:30am Arsenal v Portsmouth (Set)
 11am Aston Villa v Chelsea (FSC)
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Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2007, 01:39:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  United are in the group of death...
How about this schedule for United:
 
 Saturday Sept 15 at Everton
 Wednesday Sept 19 at Sporting Lisbon
 Sunday Sept 23 Home to Chelsea
 
 That's a brutal week.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on August 31, 2007, 01:49:00 pm
when do they go to kiev? in the winter??
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Post by: vansmack on August 31, 2007, 02:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  when do they go to kiev? in the winter??
Late October...could have been worse as Kiev play at Old Trafford in early November.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 01, 2007, 09:43:00 am
I see Arseholes signed another frog!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 02, 2007, 02:36:00 pm
VILLA!!! VILLA!!! VILLA!!! VILLLLLAAAAAA!!!
 
   :D    :D    :D
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Post by: sonickteam2 on September 05, 2007, 11:12:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  VILLA!!! VILLA!!! VILLA!!! VILLLLLAAAAAA!!!
 
    :D      :D      :D  
OWEN!!! OWEN!!! OWEN!! OWEN!!!!!
 
 
 forget it.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 07, 2007, 08:36:00 am
HEY SMACKIE
 
 how the hell do i watch england tomorrow   :(
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Post by: vansmack on September 08, 2007, 07:04:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  HEY SMACKIE
 
 how the hell do i watch england tomorrow    :(  
Sorry.  It was Pay-per-view only.  You had to order it from DirecTV or go to a bar that will charge you $20 to see the match.
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Post by: vansmack on September 09, 2007, 11:18:00 am
Or you can do what I did, which was download this BBC HDTV torrent:
 
 http://www.isohunt.com/download/25690512/england+israel (http://www.isohunt.com/download/25690512/england+israel)
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Post by: vansmack on September 10, 2007, 02:40:00 pm
Wednesday September 12
 
 12pm Euro: Finland v Poland (PPV)
 12:30pm Euro: Slovakia v Wales (FSC)
 1pm Euro: Norway v Greece (PPV)
 2:30pm Euro: Albania v Holland (FSC)
 2:30pm Euro: Czech Republic v Ireland (PPV)
 3pm Euro: England v Russia (PPV)
 3pm Euro: France v Scotland (Set Live - not a pay-per-view event)
 
 Thursday September 13
 
 ALL REPLAYS:
 
 8:30am Euro: Iceland v Northern Ireland (Set)
 10:15am Euro: Turkey v Hungary (Set)
 12pm Euro: Slovakia v Wales (Set)
 1:45pm Euro: Portugal v Serbia (Set)
 3:30pm Euro: Finland v Poland (Set)
 5:15pm Euro: Czech Republic v Ireland
 
 If you could kindly refrain from discussing the Czech/Ireland game until late Thursday I would appreciate it as I will be watching the replay and NOT paying for the PPV.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 10, 2007, 02:48:00 pm
you think at $180 a year, setenta would let me watch ireland and england, but no
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Post by: vansmack on September 10, 2007, 03:15:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  you think at $180 a year, setenta would let me watch ireland and england, but no
Setanta's offices are here in SF and I had the pleasure of meeting one of their employees at a business mixer.  When I asked him about that, he said that Setanta started out as a Premium option for bars and signed a lot of long term deals.  
 
 When the option of being a home provider emerged, the bars were upset at paying the fee and spending the money on ads to drive business when many folks would stay home or record the game instead of coming to the bar, so they had to back off the home offerings for the international matches.  He expected it to be this way through Euro 2008 and then it will be negotiated again.
 
 Oh, and I turn Setanta off May 15-Aug 15 to save $50.  This year I may not as Euro 2008 may be on Setanta.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 10, 2007, 03:36:00 pm
i'm going to do that too, unless i get sucked into rugby or something. i think euro 2008 is at least partially on espn
 
 although if i start watching rugby on top of steelers, newcastle, penn state, pens and wiz, my wife may divorce me
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Post by: vansmack on September 10, 2007, 04:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  although if i start watching rugby on top of steelers, newcastle, penn state, pens and wiz, my wife may divorce me
Do what I did - send her to medical school!
  You wouldn't believe the free time I have to watch all of those sports and play video games...
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Post by: Summerteeth on September 10, 2007, 10:42:00 pm
ESPN did buy the rights to Euro 2008.  Now, whether they'll dump it on ESPN Deportes or ESPNU or some other channel no one has, is another question.
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Post by: vansmack on September 10, 2007, 11:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by You go, Judge Alito:
  ESPN Deportes
That could only be used for Spanish speaking rights, but you are correct and somehow I missed it.  Now if they'd only do it in HD:
 
 ESPN acquires U.S. video rights to UEFA Euro 2008
 
 December 8, 2006
 
 European soccer governing body UEFA has announced that ESPN, Inc. has acquired exclusive video rights in the U.S., in English and Spanish, to UEFA Euro 2008, the European soccer championship.
 
 All 31 matches of UEFA Euro 2008 will air in the U.S. in English, with 2 matches to be broadcast over-the air on ABC and the other 29 matches to air on either ESPN, ESPN2, or ESPN Classic.
 
 ESPN Deportes will air all 31 matches in the U.S. in Spanish.
 
 ESPN outbid the incumbent, Setanta Sports North America, for the video rights in the U.S. Setanta had presented UEFA Euro 2000 and 2004 in the U.S. mostly on pay-per-view with a handful of matches sublicensed to Univision (in 2000) and FOX Sports World (in 2004) for live or same-day delay broadcast.
 
 UEFA also announced that ESPN Latin America will have the pay video rights to all 31 matches of UEFA Euro 2008 throughout Latin America.
 
 UEFA has awarded the video rights to UEFA Euro 2008 in the Indian Subcontinent (India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, The Maldives, Bhutan, and Nepal) to Singapore-based ESPN STAR Sports (ESS), which is managed by NewsCorp's STAR Television under a joint venture agreement with Disney/ESPN. ESS will sublicense a required number of matches to terrestrial broadcasters in the region, which has a population of 1.3 billion.
 
 In the Middle East and Northern Africa, UEFA has awarded the video rights to UEFA Euro 2008 to Arabic-language broadcaster Al Jazeera.
 
 In Hong Kong, UEFA has award the video rights to PCCW (formerly Pacific Century Cyberworks), which operates the NOW Broadband TV service using Internet Protocol Television (IPTV) technology. PCCW had recently outbid incumbent i-Cable for the video rights to the English Premier League (EPL).
 
 In all other countries and territories outside Europe, UEFA has chosen Germany-based sports marketing agency SPORTFIVE to handle the sale of media rights.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 11, 2007, 09:11:00 pm
where is the newcastle/derby match on? i swore it was supposed to be fsc
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Post by: vansmack on September 12, 2007, 07:48:00 pm
England v Russia BT (http://www.mininova.org/tor/884355)
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Post by: vansmack on September 14, 2007, 03:57:00 pm
I have no information on The Toon....
 
 Saturday, Sept. 15
 
 7am Everton v Manchester Utd (Set)
 8:30am Tottenham v Arsenal (FSC)  
 9:15am Sunderland v Reading (Set)
 10:30am West Ham v Middlesbrough (FSC)  
 12pm Chelsea v Blackburn (FSC)
 4:30pm Portsmouth v Liverpool (Set)
 
 Sunday, Sept. 16  
 
 11am Manchester City v Aston Villa (FSC)
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Post by: sonickteam2 on September 14, 2007, 04:35:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  where is the newcastle/derby match on? i swore it was supposed to be fsc
i looked and i didnt see it anywhere for this week.
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Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2007, 05:17:00 pm
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Originally posted by le sonick:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  where is the newcastle/derby match on? i swore it was supposed to be fsc
i looked and i didnt see it anywhere for this week. [/b]
It was on today when I got home from Chicago.  Obviously a delayed telecast.
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Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2007, 05:25:00 pm
Champions League Starts Tomorrow....
 
 Tuesday, September 18
 
 2:40et FC Porto vs. Liverpool FC (ESPN2)
 2:40et Chelsea vs Rosenborg (Set)
 2:40et AC Milan vs Benfica (Set PPV)
 2:40et Shakhtar Donetsk vs Celtic (Set PPV)
 10pm Real Madrid v Werder Bremen (Set Del)
 12am Olympiacos v Lazio (Set Del)
 
 
 Wednesday, September 19
 
 2:40et Sporting Lisbon vs. Manchester United (ESPN2)
 2:40et Arsenal vs Sevilla (Set)
 2:40et Rangers vs VfB Stuttgart (Set PPV)
 8pm Barcelona v Lyon (Set Del)
 10pm Fenerbahce v Inter Milan (Set Del)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 17, 2007, 10:08:00 pm
bah, newcastle was terrible tonight or so i read
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Post by: vansmack on September 18, 2007, 12:19:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bah, newcastle was terrible tonight or so i read
It was on TV too - I watched Kenny Millers goal - and yes, Newcastle were terrible.  Feilhaber did come in for Derby though.  Owen also went out hurt,  they say it's just a groin pull, but this is Owen we're talking about.
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Post by: vansmack on September 18, 2007, 12:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Wednesday, September 19
 
 
One addendum:
 
 5:00 FC Barcelona vs. Olympique Lyonnais (ESPN Classic)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 18, 2007, 12:42:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bah, newcastle was terrible tonight or so i read
It was on TV too - I watched Kenny Millers goal - and yes, Newcastle were terrible.  Feilhaber did come in for Derby though.  Owen also went out hurt,  they say it's just a groin pull, but this is Owen we're talking about. [/b]
setanta delay or something?
 
 i hate kenny miller so much   :mad:  
 
 sam should have sat mikey after the internationals. i am convinced he would have if the match was saturday instead of monday
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Post by: vansmack on September 19, 2007, 01:55:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  setanta delay or something?
 
 i hate kenny miller so much    :mad:  
 
 sam should have sat mikey after the internationals. i am convinced he would have if the match was saturday instead of monday
It was a Monday kickoff and I believe it was live because I was watching it at around noon.  I don't remember if it was Setanta or FSC though.
 
 And yes, Sam should have sat Owen - 3 games in 8 days...
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Post by: vansmack on September 19, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
I was thinking of doing a running diary of today's United match, but figured many of you might be waiting to watch it when you get home, so I will just tell you this - Celtic called Lisbon a few minutes ago - they'd like their kits back.
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Post by: Barcelona on September 19, 2007, 11:00:00 pm
Finally, a somehow convincing game, 3-0 against Lyon.
 
 A huge surprise, I personally think his years in Chelsea have been more a failure than a success.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7003912.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7003912.stm)
 
 Manager Mourinho leaves Chelsea  
 
 Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho has sensationally left Stamford Bridge by mutual consent, the club has confirmed.
 
 The news comes just 24 hours after the disappointing Champions League draw against Rosenborg.
 
 BBC Radio 5live football correspondent Jonathan Legard understands Mourinho texted senior players, including skipper John Terry, with the news.
 
 Mourinho joined Chelsea in the summer of 2004 and led them to the Premiership title in each of his first two seasons.
 
 Last season they finished runners-up to Manchester United but won both the FA Cup and Carling Cup, a trophy they had also collected in 2005.
 
 His achievements also saw him voted as Premiership manager of the year in 2005 and 2006.
 
 However the Champions League trophy eluded the club and this season's campaign started with Tuesday's shock 1-1 result against the Norwegians in front of a crowd of just 24,973.
 
 It was their third successive game without a win following a 2-0 defeat at Aston Villa and a goalless draw with Blackburn in the Premier League.
 
 Those results have left Chelsea fifth in the table - two points behind leaders Arsenal and with a visit to Manchester United to come on Sunday.
 
 He did have one unique record during his reign in never losing a home league game at Stamford Bridge.
 
 Mourinho signed a five-year contract in 2005 and quashed speculation in January that he would leave Stamford Bridge in the summer by saying he was happy to see out his deal if he received "real support" from the club.
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Post by: vansmack on September 19, 2007, 11:25:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Manager Mourinho leaves Chelsea  
 
I just saw that.  HOLY SHIT!!!
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Post by: brennser on September 20, 2007, 12:28:00 am
what smackie said!! makes the game on sunday even more intriguing
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Manager Mourinho leaves Chelsea  
 
I just saw that.  HOLY SHIT!!! [/b]
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Post by: sonickteam2 on September 20, 2007, 10:33:00 am
man, that Barcelona team looked like they were in a different league than whoever those clowns were they played yesterday. sheesh.
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Post by: Barcelona on September 20, 2007, 10:57:00 am
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Originally posted by le sonick:
  man, that Barcelona team looked like they were in a different league than whoever those clowns were they played yesterday. sheesh.
Thanks Sonick! However, Barcelona has started the season very poorly in the Spanish league and everything is criticism, even after yesterday's game. Everyone, especially Ronaldinho, is being criticized. If they get back in shape, they might be too strong to beat, even the bench with these young players like the Mexican Giovani, Bojan, or Iniesta is impressive.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 21, 2007, 09:49:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Manager Mourinho leaves Chelsea  
 
I just saw that.  HOLY SHIT!!! [/b]
Who predicted this train wreck when the rich Russian bought them?????
 
 They'll be like rats leaving a sinking ship come January.
 
 Drogba to Milan
 Lampard somewhere in Spain
 
 I can see Morono ending up at Spurs actually
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Post by: vansmack on September 21, 2007, 01:04:00 pm
Saturday, September 22
 
 10am Liverpool v Birmingham (Set)
 10am Arsenal v Derby (FSC)  
 12pm Fulham v Manchester City (FSC)
 4:30pm  Middlesbrough v Sunderland (FSC)  
 
 
 Sunday, September 23
 
 8:30am Newcastle Utd v West Ham (Set)
 11:00am Manchester United v Chelsea (FSC)
 4:30pm Aston Villa v Everton  (FSC)
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 25, 2007, 04:38:00 pm
Wow - no comments about the thrashing of the London minnows by the mighty Man Utd....I bet chelski were intimidated by playing in front of a sold out stadium for a change.
 
 Did anyone read how arseholes are now having a go at them  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7011751.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7011751.stm)
 
 Not only will they never be the biggest club in the world, they won't ever be the biggest club in their own city.
 
 BTW Toon fans - how's Mikey "ow, me fuck'n knee" Owen working out for you?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 25, 2007, 05:12:00 pm
HIS PROPER NAME IS MICHAEL OWEN
 
 and its the groin this time  ;)
 
 league cup aside, its going to be worse for country than club
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Post by: vansmack on September 25, 2007, 05:21:00 pm
Sorry Mank, brennser and I were chatting about it in the vansmack rollcall thread.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 25, 2007, 05:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  HIS PROPER NAME IS MICHAEL OWEN
 
 and its the groin this time    ;)  
 
 league cup aside, its going to be worse for country than club
The groin bone is connected to the knee bone!    ;)
 
 BTW, here's my take on the game..yes, I actually got to see it now I've changed jobs.
 
 The red card was a red card offense - I'm just surprised he flashed the red card in such a 'big game' Joe Cole's was far worse but he stayed on the field, but there's no way he was going to send two of them off. Terry should've also gotten a red for hacking Rooney down, but he got the yellow instead.
 
 The penalty call was a little weak admittedly, but he missed two definate penalties earlier on so it was probably a make up call by the ref.
 
 Tevez's goal in the 3rd minute of injury time when the 4th official said 2 minutes was a good call. You can't blow the whistle with the ball out of play and he scored right off the corner, then the extra few seconds was to make up the time lost while setting up the corner...it's really quite simple.
 
 I'm surprised it was as one sided as it was to be honest. I thought chelski would've put up more of a fight, and when they resorted to filthy tactics it was all over at that point.
 
 Finally, other than the goal, what did Tevez do? I must admit, I'm not a fan...yet.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 26, 2007, 10:22:00 am
i dunno, half of the chelsea side have got to be absolutely gutted that maureen is gone. supposedly fat frank was crying in the showers or something. drogba wants out too, and ronnie is rumored to be coming in. chelsea are interesting off the pitch, at least
 
 new chairman has been saying newcastle were close to pulling a leeds before mike ashley made his bid.    :eek:
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 26, 2007, 10:35:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i dunno, half of the chelsea side have got to be absolutely gutted that maureen is gone. supposedly fat frank was crying in the showers or something. drogba wants out too, and ronnie is rumored to be coming in. chelsea are interesting off the pitch, at least
 
 new chairman has been saying newcastle were close to pulling a leeds before mike ashley made his bid.     :eek:  
HIS PROPER NAME IS MICHAEL ASHLEY
 
 There's no way Toon was going to do a Leeds, the local council wouldn't have allowed it. What would the Geordies do for two hours every Saturday afternoon? Those 2 hours are needed so the pubs can clean up and change the barrels, and so their wives can cover some of the bruises before the next round of domestics start
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Post by: godsshoeshine on September 26, 2007, 10:48:00 am
and that's different from leeds how?   ;)  
 
 honestly i dont know how much of it is true, but its tough to give fat freddy the benefit of the doubt (yes, i know his proper name is frederick)
 
 i was just trying to enforce the mike/mikey/michael owen rule someone layed down a few pages back...
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on September 26, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  and that's different from leeds how?    ;)  
 
 
...because in Leeds it would be the men covering up their bruises.
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Post by: vansmack on September 28, 2007, 04:46:00 pm
While it's not going to be the same as watching the match with a 1 year old wearing the same clothes as me, this is what I'm watching this weekend at home:
 
 Saturday, Sept. 29
 
 7:30am Manchester City v Newcasle Utd (Set)
 10am Chelsea v Fulham  (FSC)
 10am West Ham v Arsenal (Set)
 12pm Birmingham v Manchester United (FSC)
 9pm Wigan v Liverpool (Set Delayed)
 2am Portsmouth v Reading (FSC Delayed)  
 
 Sunday, Sept. 30
 
 11 a.m. Everton v Middlesbrough (FSC)
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Post by: vansmack on October 01, 2007, 07:32:00 pm
UEFA Champions League - Match Day 2
 
 Tuesday, October 2
 
 2:45pm Manchester United v AS Roma (ESPN2 Live)
 2:45pm Steaua v Arsenal (Set LIVE)
 5pm Stuttgart v Barcelona (Set Delay)
 5pm Dynamo Kiev v Sporting (ESPN Classic Delay)
 
 
 Wednesday, October 3
 
 2:45pm Liverpool v Olympique de Marseille (ESPN2 Live)
 2:45pm Valencia v Chelsea (Set LIVE)
 5pm Lazio v Real Madrid (ESPN Classic and Set Delay)
 6:45pm Besiktas v Porto (Set Delay)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 02, 2007, 05:52:00 pm
Well, yet another 1-0 victory for United. The good news is they're still winning and they haven't got it quite together yet, and Rooney is off the mark so he should start banging them in now.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2007, 06:12:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Well, yet another 1-0 victory for United.
Yep, not the best home performance by United, but the midfield looks strong at the back line, and is definitely struggling going forward.  Rooney was very vocal this match about the distribution of ball going forward.
 
 Nonetheless, top of the table and not much to argue with.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 02, 2007, 06:13:00 pm
Barcelona seems to start playing decently. Surprise in France though, can't recall the last time when a Scottish team won with such authority an away-game in the Champions League.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 02, 2007, 06:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
   Surprise in France though, can't recall the last time when a Scottish team won with such authority an away-game in the Champions League.
DeMarcus Beasley with a goal as well!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 02, 2007, 07:06:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Barcelona seems to start playing decently. Surprise in France though, can't recall the last time when a Scottish team won with such authority an away-game in the Champions League.
Don't get used to it.
 
 Actually, Scotland recently beat France in Paris.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 03, 2007, 09:00:00 am
bummer, i hate rangers
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 03, 2007, 09:32:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bummer, i hate rangers
Why would scottish football generate such a strong feeling? That's like saying you hate the little league team your neighbours kid plays for.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 03, 2007, 12:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bummer, i hate rangers
Why would scottish football generate such a strong feeling? [/b]
Maybe he's Catholic.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 03, 2007, 12:46:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bummer, i hate rangers
Why would scottish football generate such a strong feeling? [/b]
Maybe he's Catholic. [/b]
hmmmm, I wonder how many catholics play for celtic?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 03, 2007, 12:47:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bummer, i hate rangers
Why would scottish football generate such a strong feeling? That's like saying you hate the little league team your neighbours kid plays for. [/b]
if the second place team from my neighbor's little league team got in the champions league, then yes i'd hate them too
 
 for the record, i dont like celtic either and i am not religious
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 03, 2007, 04:45:00 pm
Scum lost - that's made my day!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 04, 2007, 10:19:00 am
hey smackie, why does the setanta feed come through so shitty. and why is the cl not in hd on espn2hd
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 04, 2007, 12:31:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hey smackie, why does the setanta feed come through so shitty. and why is the cl not in hd on espn2hd
Setanta doesn't actually broadcast themselves.  They pick up the feed from other distributors and put it through their satelites so their picture depends (1) the source feed and (2) how it's converted.
 
 As for ESPN - they didn't buy the HD rights.  There was a rumor that the semi's and final were to be in HD, but it didn't happen.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 04, 2007, 12:34:00 pm
if i had mike ashley money i'd buy setanta and make it so it didnt suck
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 04, 2007, 03:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  if i had mike ashley money i'd buy setanta and make it so it didnt suck
At $15 a month, I predict Setanta will be in HD before FSC and this will all be fixed.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 04, 2007, 04:42:00 pm
i would allow you to run it so this would happen
 
 i knew i didnt have time to watch all of the el ameripool match last night but i really wanted to check out some footie action in HD. i was crushed    :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: BookerT on October 04, 2007, 04:59:00 pm
i clicked on this thread once, saw it was about "football" and never clicked in again until now. but i'm going to london in a few weeks and got tickets to a fulham/derby county match while i'm there. anything i should know?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 04, 2007, 05:03:00 pm
fulham has a shitload of americans
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 05, 2007, 09:37:00 am
Derby are shite, so Fulham will most likely win.
 
 I'm wondering if all the doodles in the Fulham squad is just coincidence or is there a larger plan to try to establish Fulham with the football watching American?? Pretty smart move if it is, because they aren't compromising in the quality of the players.
 
 America produces good players, your coaches leave a lot to be desired though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: BookerT on October 05, 2007, 10:07:00 am
fulham was the only team that i didn't have to be the member of, like, 4 different clubs to be able to purchase tickets. there were still a few hoops to jump through, but nothing too bad. the stadium looks pretty excellent.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 06, 2007, 10:38:00 am
Saturday October 6
 
 4:30am Manchester Utd v Wigan Athletic (Set)
 7:00am Aston Villa v West Ham (Set)
 
 Sunday October 7
 
 4:00am Arsenal v Sunderland (Set)
 7:00am Bolton v Chelsea (Set)
 10:00am Liverpool v Tottenham (FSC)  
 4:00pm Newcastle v Everton (Set Delayed)
 5:00pm Fulham v Portsmouth (FSC Delayed)
 7:00pm Manchester City v Middlesbrough (Set Delayed)
 11:00pm Blackburn v Birmingham (FSC Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 06, 2007, 11:15:00 am
Looks like United have started to find the back of the net....4-0!
 
 OMFG!!!!! England 12 Australia 10, rugby world  cup quarter final. I know most don't give a rats, but I had to shout it somewhere and I'm at work right now!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 06, 2007, 02:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  OMFG!!!!! England 12 Australia 10, rugby world  cup quarter final. I know most don't give a rats, but I had to shout it somewhere and I'm at work right now!!!
I'm with Argentina on this one.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 06, 2007, 05:38:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  OMFG!!!!! England 12 Australia 10, rugby world  cup quarter final. I know most don't give a rats, but I had to shout it somewhere and I'm at work right now!!!
I'm with Argentina on this one. [/b]
HOLY CRAP!! New Zealand 18 France 20, What a weekend of rugby. who would've predicted England v France for the semi final after looking at the quarter finals line ups this morning?....I'd say the winner of that semi is the world champion, but who knows after todays results? Just proves that anybody can beat anybody on the day.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 08, 2007, 08:58:00 am
i wonder if big sam's finally going to realize that 1) alan smith is not a midfielder and 2) he's better than dukes and a mile better than shola
 
 also, he's marginally insane
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 08, 2007, 09:21:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i wonder if big sam's finally going to realize that 1) alan smith is not a midfielder and 2) he's better than dukes and a mile better than shola
 
 also, he's marginally insane
Who knows? Fergie couldn't figure that out so not much hope of dumb old  big Sam realizing he's a striker.....why United got rid of him I'll never understand. Rooney and Smith up front would put the fear of God in any defence.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 08, 2007, 09:44:00 am
i thought he was going to fight nicky butt for the captain arm band after geremi came off
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 08, 2007, 10:32:00 am
I was really hoping Spurs could gut out a win over Pool yesterday.....oh well
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 08, 2007, 11:09:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i thought he was going to fight nicky butt for the captain arm band after geremi came off
That was odd, to say the least.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 08, 2007, 11:13:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  I was really hoping Spurs could gut out a win over Pool yesterday.....oh well
Robbie Keane can make the most out of nothing time and time again - he just can't fix the back four.  Torres should never have beaten both defenders in the air in added time - that's just a lack of will and desire - a Spurs trademark.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 08, 2007, 11:28:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i thought he was going to fight nicky butt for the captain arm band after geremi came off
That was odd, to say the least. [/b]
yeah, i though you could see germani say 'nicky' when he came off and then rozenhal say 'nicky' when he gave it to him...dunno it was weird
 
 stupid ashton and johnson out for england. bet we'll see mike and al despite the injuries. oh wait i cant watch england   :mad:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 16, 2007, 07:32:00 pm
Wednesday, Oct 17 - Euro Qualifiers
 
 9:55am Kazakhstan vs Portugal (Set)
 10:55am Russia vs England (SET Pay per view)
 12:55 Georgia vs Scotland (Set)
 1:25 Turkey vs Greece (SET PPV)
 2:25 Ireland vs Cyprus (Set PPV)
 2:30 Switzerland vs USA (FSC - Friendly)
 2:45 Germany vs Czech Republic (Set)
 4:30 France vs Lithuania (FSC Del)
 6:30 Sweden vs Northern Ireland (FSC Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 17, 2007, 04:30:00 pm
maybe its not so bad that i cant watch england or ireland  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 19, 2007, 01:43:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  maybe its not so bad that i cant watch england or ireland    :(  
It's totally going to ruin my trip to Austria and Switzerland for Euro 2008 though.
 
 Say it with me..."HOP HOLLAND!!!"
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 19, 2007, 02:02:00 pm
Saturday, October 20
 
 7:45am Everton v Liverpool (Set)  
 10:00am Arsenal v Bolton (Set)
 10:00am Middlesbrough v Chelsea (FSC)
 10:00am Manchester City v Birmingham City (Set Extra - DirecTV channel 670)
 12:00pm Aston Villa v Man United (FSC)
 4:30pm Blackburn v Reading (FSC Del)
 
 Sunday, October 21
 
 11:00am West Ham v Sunderland
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 19, 2007, 02:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  maybe its not so bad that i cant watch england or ireland     :(    
It's totally going to ruin my trip to Austria and Switzerland for Euro 2008 though.
 
 Say it with me..."HOP HOLLAND!!!" [/b]
i dont know who i'll support now, i dont think any toon players will make it
 
 thank god for the prem
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 19, 2007, 02:50:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  maybe its not so bad that i cant watch england or ireland     :(    
It's totally going to ruin my trip to Austria and Switzerland for Euro 2008 though.
 
 Say it with me..."HOP HOLLAND!!!" [/b]
Didn't you go already to see the last World Cup? If so, I would certainly try to see one final of the Champions League, the atmosphere in those games is much better than in the Euro or World Cup.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 19, 2007, 03:07:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Didn't you go already to see the last World Cup? If so, I would certainly try to see one final of the Champions League, the atmosphere in those games is much better than in the Euro or World Cup.
It's kind of a long trip for one game.  But if United makes a Champ's League final, I'll get over there.
 
 That's why these Euro/World tourney's are great - a ton of games scattered throughout a dozen or so cities.  It's a combination of a lot of football and a touring vacation.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 22, 2007, 12:35:00 pm
Monday, October 22
 
 3:00 Newcastle v Tottenham (set)
 
 
 I don't know why I keep forgetting to post the Monday match.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 22, 2007, 04:10:00 pm
i dont know why the toon keeps on playing these damn things. i like my sports on the weekend, thanks. i hope my dvr worked out its issues and recorded it as well
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 22, 2007, 07:24:00 pm
EUFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE - MATCHDAY 3
 
 Tuesday, October 23
 
 2:45pm Dynamo Kiev v Manchester Utd (Set)
 2:45pm Rangers v Barcelnoa (ESPN2)
 4:45pm Arsenal v Slavia (Set Del)
 5pm Dynamo Kiev v Manchester Utd (ESPN Classic Del)
 6:30pm Roma v Sporting (Set Del)
 
 
 Wednesday, October 24
 
 2:45pm Besiktas v Liverpool (Set)
 2:45pm Chelsea v. Schalke (ESPN2)
 4:45pm Real Madrid v Olympiacos (Set Del)
 5pm Real MAdrid v Olympiakos (ESPN Classic Del)
 6:30pm Marseille v Porto (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 23, 2007, 11:57:00 am
so does jol want sacked?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 23, 2007, 12:18:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so does jol want sacked?
Boy it sure looked that way...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: BookerT on October 23, 2007, 12:23:00 pm
so that fulham/darby match i went to on saturday predictably ended 0-0. a little disappointing, especially because the rugby final later that night was pretty much a snoozer, too. but fulham's got a nice stadium, that's for sure. depressing week for english sports while i was over there between the rugby loss, the loss to russia and hamilton's F1 letdown. they even planned a parade and everything.
 
 and back to that england/russia match, that sure was one awful call on the rooney foul. i watched it from in one of the many ladbroke's all around. so much gambling...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 23, 2007, 12:27:00 pm
yeah, berbatov looked like he was going to explode. i remember last year reading that he grew up wearing a newcastle shirt and patterned his game after shearer and looks forward to playing against the toon. so he gets benched. yikes
 
 does lennon have a knock? cant figure out why he didnt come on for bale
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 23, 2007, 03:33:00 pm
Can I just tell you how much I love my Slingbox on Champions league matchdays?  No better way to pass the lunch hour...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 10:33:00 am
where mank to laugh at el doodlepool
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 12:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  where mank to laugh at el doodlepool
They looked so bad that I'm thinking of not waking up early to watch them take on Arseanl this weekend live.  They are struggling...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 25, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  where mank to laugh at el doodlepool
They looked so bad that I'm thinking of not waking up early to watch them take on Arseanl this weekend live.  They are struggling... [/b]
5til law9hi4g t2 4ard t0 ty6e an4thin9 co4eren7
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 12:23:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  5til law9hi4g t2 4ard t0 ty6e an4thin9 co4eren7
And people say you're getting old and have lost your touch - pfft.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 12:26:00 pm
rafa's gotta be sweating even more than usual. dropping the arse match would make me even happier
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 12:30:00 pm
Can we talk about Arsenal playing 11 of their first 15 matches in London, for just a second?
 
 That's simply ridiculous and is a large part of why they're top of the table.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 12:42:00 pm
bound to happen when you have a quarter of the league from one city
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 12:47:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  bound to happen when you have a quarter of the league from one city
OK - but of those 11 matches, only one was on the road (at Tottenham).  The rest were at Emirates Stadium.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 12:56:00 pm
at west ham too
 
 but i agree, that's too many home games. however, newcastle has yet to play a big 4 team outside of the league cup, so i'm not complaining   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 01:06:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  at west ham too
 
 
I wasn't even counting that match!  12 out of 15!  Ridiculous.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 01:35:00 pm
if id complain about anything its the 8 fixtures that the toon plays in december. but if i have the week between christmas and new years off again, this would make me really happy
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 05:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so does jol want sacked?
Boy it sure looked that way... [/b]
SPOILER ALERT (will contain Tottenham Score)
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 Tottenham Hotspur's 2-1 defeat at home to Getafe in the UEFA Cup proved to be Martin Jol's last game in charge at White Hart Lane after he tendered his resignation ahead of the game. Reports first suggested the embattled Dutchman has been sacked by an increasingly dissatisfied Spurs board, but reports suggest Jol jumped before he was pushed.
 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/index?cc=5739 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/index?cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 05:07:00 pm
rumors already have ramos in
 
 is that even possible? isnt he tied to sevilla
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 05:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  rumors already have ramos in
 
 is that even possible? isnt he tied to sevilla
He was the guy Chelsea were rumored to be after.  I can't see Tottenham out spending Chelsea to buy Sevilla's allegiance.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 05:13:00 pm
i actually favored ramos over big sam last spring. i guess i'd rather he made chelsea fun to watch
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on October 25, 2007, 05:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  rumors already have ramos in
 
 is that even possible? isnt he tied to sevilla
Ramos is in - I think Ireland should at least strongly consider Jol for their now vacant job as well - I'm a big Jol fan
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 05:30:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  Ramos is in
They're about to advance in the Champions League, and he leaves them?  Amazing...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 05:33:00 pm
they arent doing well in the league. got to get the pay day
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 25, 2007, 05:41:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  they arent doing well in the league. got to get the pay day
Admittedly, since Becks came to America, Smackette has spared me from watching La Liga and I didn't realize they were struggling in Spain.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 25, 2007, 08:44:00 pm
i knew that from reading it somewhere. i'll watch real/barca if i remember, though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on October 25, 2007, 10:53:00 pm
Sevilla is still struggling after the death of Puerta at the end of August. They should be back in the top positions by Christmas, but who knows these teams sometimes can't seem to be able to deal with the expectations raised by the fans after a good season. However, they pretty much are in the next phase of the Champions League, so it would be surprising if Ramos left now.
 
 As for games in Spain, besides the Madrid Barcelona, you should always pay attention to the Valencia Barcelona, always crazy games. The Valencia Madrid and the games of the two big with Sevilla should be fun to watch. There are other very decent teams that in England could be in the top 5 or 6 such as Atletico Madrid, Zaragoza or Villareal (by the way Robert Pires is playing really well this season).
 
 By the way, I have always liked Totenham, my team in London.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 26, 2007, 10:39:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  (by the way Robert Pires is playing really well this season).
 
 
That's because he's not playing in the mans league anymore, the big girls blouse.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 26, 2007, 01:04:00 pm
Saturday, October 27
 
 10:00am Man United vs Middlesbrough (Set)
 10:00am Chelsea v Man City (FSC)  
 12:00pm Portsmouth v West Ham (FSC)
 4:15pm Sunderland v Fulham (Set Del)  
 4:30pm Reading v Newcastle (FSC Del)
 6:00pm 7:45am Birmingham v Wigan (Set del)
 
 Sunday, October 28
 
 9:30am Bolton v Aston Villa (Set)
 11:00am Tottenham v Blackburn (Set Xtra)
 12:00pm Liverpool v Arsenal (FSC)
 
 
 No Monday game this week.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 26, 2007, 01:41:00 pm
good weekend of matches. too bad my dvr doesnt want to record 2 things at once
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 26, 2007, 01:45:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  good weekend of matches. too bad my dvr doesnt want to record 2 things at once
I don't post replay times, but Setanta replays every match later in the day if it's better suited for your DVR.  FSC replays are not always on the same day, but some are.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 26, 2007, 02:28:00 pm
well hopefully i can catch the arse/pool match before i get spoiled
 
 think i may have to watch shitty over usa though   :o
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 27, 2007, 12:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  well hopefully i can catch the arse/pool match before i get spoiled
 
 think i may have to watch shitty over usa though    :o  
So how did that shitty game work out for you?
 
 6-0, oh that's fucking priceless.   :D    :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 28, 2007, 12:43:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  think i may have to watch shitty over usa though    :o  
Well, I might start watching the FSC game no matter who's playing next time.  Setanta has taken it upon themselves to update the rest of the Premiership every 4 minutes during their morning match.  They even update the matches they're going to show later in the day.  Ruined my whole afternoon.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 29, 2007, 09:51:00 am
that's like my worst fear come true
 
 actually woke up late and started the shitty/chelski match late. i watched the first 4 goals and then fast forwarded. made it pretty entertaining, actually
 
 toon were shit. why start 4 central mids and no target man?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 29, 2007, 03:14:00 pm
Scholes Out 3 Months
 
 Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes will have a knee operation on Thursday and is expected to be out of action for three months.The 32-year-old reported the injury during training prior his side's Champions League win over Dynamo Kiev on Tuesday.
 
  http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=477078&cc=5739 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=477078&cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 29, 2007, 04:30:00 pm
We just get Hargreaves back and down goes Scholes!! oh the frustration. I think we have much stronger strength in depth this season so should be okay. We need to get shot of that Lladro figurine Saha. My God, he's broken more times than the new S class Benz. Maybe toon will take him, they seem to go for defective strikers!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 29, 2007, 04:41:00 pm
we'll take rooney, saha would be too cheap
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 29, 2007, 06:17:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  we'll take rooney, saha would be too cheap
Shrek is going nowhere!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on October 30, 2007, 05:29:00 pm
Great.  Now I have to decide if I want to be divorced before I go to the World Cup in Brazil, or just wait until I return home and tell her how much fun I had...
 
 Brazil to host 2014 World Cup
 Associated Press
 
 ZURICH, Switzerland -- Brazil was chosen host of the 2014 World Cup on Tuesday, returning the showcase event to the soccer-mad country that held the tournament in 1950 and has captured the title a record five times.  
 
 Brazil was the only candidate and won in a unanimous vote by the executive committee of the sport's governing body.
 
 More... (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=477307&cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 30, 2007, 06:13:00 pm
So nobody else even bid for it in 2014?
 
 Do you think the home nation will be favourites?
 
 When a country that size only plays one fucking sport they better be good at it.
 
 Oh it would be sweet if someone other than Brasil won it in 2014.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on October 31, 2007, 11:19:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  So nobody else even bid for it in 2014?
 
 Do you think the home nation will be favourites?
 
 When a country that size only plays one fucking sport they better be good at it.
 
 Oh it would be sweet if someone other than Brasil won it in 2014.
i guess not
 
 yes, arent they always
 
 totally
 
 and yes, only if its england (or ireland but that wont happen)  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 01, 2007, 02:23:00 pm
Saturday, November 3
 
 8:30am Arsenal vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 11:00am Newcastle vs. Portsmouth (FSC)  
 11:00am Wigan Athletic vs. Chelsea (Set)
 1:00pm Blackburn vs. Liverpool (FSC Del)  
 1:00pm Middlesbrough vs. Tottenham (Set Del)
 5:30pm Fulham v Reading (FSC DEl)  
 
 Sunday, November 4
 
 11:00am West Ham vs. Bolton (FSC)
 
 Monday, November 5
 
 2:00pm Manchester City vs. Sunderland (Set - KO 2:45pm)
 
 
 Rough week to not have Setanta, and shocker, Aresenal is at home.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 01, 2007, 02:31:00 pm
no way you get toon at home!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 03, 2007, 11:12:00 am
miserable jammie fucking french twats..equalize with the last kick of the match yet again.
 
 Mind you, at least it was in the first couple of minutes of added time, Webb would've kept the game going all afternoon until they scored.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 03, 2007, 12:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  miserable jammie fucking french twats..equalize with the last kick of the match yet again.
 
 Mind you, at least it was in the first couple of minutes of added time, Webb would've kept the game going all afternoon until they scored.
I'm exhausted and I've only been awake for two hours....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 05, 2007, 10:09:00 am
i was pretty exhausted and a bit hung over when i watched the toon match, and it did little to lighten my mood. mike owen does not look interested, but its at least he got out of bed, which is more than i can say for cacapa. what the hell was taylor doing at rb. wonder about sam's selections more and more
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 05, 2007, 11:27:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i was pretty exhausted and a bit hung over when i watched the toon match, and it did little to lighten my mood. mike owen does not look interested, but its at least he got out of bed, which is more than i can say for cacapa. what the hell was taylor doing at rb. wonder about sam's selections more and more
I'm sure Mike wants to be at a blg club. He sees all his England pals playing for the top teams and it must get him down.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 05, 2007, 11:39:00 am
no 'big' club wants him, they all could have got have got him at a cut rate during the summer and no one stepped up. rumor now has been him going to man city, maybe liverpool will want him if they sack rafa
 
 really, there's more of a market for martins, and frankly toon plays better when he's on the pitch
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 05, 2007, 12:02:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  no way you get toon at home!
After seeing Toon's home form, I now see why the "revolution" hasn't been televised.  That was an abysmal 3 minute stretch.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 05, 2007, 12:10:00 pm
newcastle seems to play well on setenta, i blame rupert murdoch
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 05, 2007, 02:36:00 pm
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE MATCHDAY 4
 
 Tuesday, November 6
 
 2:45pm FC Schalke vs. Chelsea (Set)
 2:45pm Liverpool FC vs. Besiktas (ESPN2)
 5:00pm Olympiacos vs. Real Madrid (ESPN Classic Del)
 5:00pm Porto vs. Marseille (Set Del)
 6:45pm Lazio vs. Werder Bremen (Set Del)
 
 Wednesday, November 7
 
 2:45pm Manchester United vs. Dynamo Kyiv (ESPN 2)
 2:45pm Slavia Prague vs. Arsenal (Set)
 5:00pm Barcelona vs. Rangers (ESPN Classic Del)
 5:00pm Sporting vs. Roma (Set Del)
 6:45pm Inter Milan vs. CSKA Moscow (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 06, 2007, 02:40:00 pm
Between 15,000 and 20,000 supporters of Rangers expected to arrive to Barcelona today and tomorrow morning. Only 6,000 of those with a ticket for the game. Their particular party has already started.
 
   <img src="http://www.sport.es/vivo/recursos/fotos/foto_251944_CAS.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 06, 2007, 05:31:00 pm
The Liverpool match was simply ridiculous.  For those that recorded it and hoped to watch it later, I'll refrain from any more commentary for a little while.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 06, 2007, 05:37:00 pm
i stopped recording espn2 matches when i realized they werent in hd
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 06, 2007, 05:40:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i stopped recording espn2 matches when i realized they werent in hd
That's awesome.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 06, 2007, 05:46:00 pm
i was really crushed the first time i went to watch a recorded match. the group stages dont really interest me that much as a fan without any loyalties, but i would watch every espn2 match if it was in hd.
 
 by the way, fsc hints on their website that they may start picking up hd feeds
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 06, 2007, 06:46:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  The Liverpool match was simply ridiculous.  For those that recorded it and hoped to watch it later, I'll refrain from any more commentary for a little while.
How can you call yourself a true United fan and watch that pond scum? (unless they're getting a thrashing of course)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 06, 2007, 07:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  How can you call yourself a true United fan and watch that pond scum? (unless they're getting a thrashing of course)
It was either watch that or do work, Mank, so I opted to sit at my desk and slingbox the Liverpool match while I ate my lunch.  At half of the Pool match, I switched to the Schalke/Chelsea match, but I couldn't stomach watching Schalke miss another glorious opportunity to take the lead.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 06, 2007, 07:23:00 pm
I wonder if Mankie has anything to say about this...
 
 Updated: Nov. 6, 2007
 Fergie support for Blatter stance on imports
 
 Sir Alex Ferguson believes clubs should be seen to have 'a proportion of home-based players' - and feels rivals Arsenal would 'protest the loudest' at such a rule.
 
 FIFA president Sepp Blatter has announced he will lobby for restrictions on the number of foreign players in each team and Ferguson has voiced his support.
 
 'It's certainly not wrong that clubs should be seen to have a proportion of home-based players,' the Manchester United manager said.
 
 'I totally agree (with Blatter) but it would be a problem for a club like Arsenal. That's why they'll protest the loudest.
 
 'You want to protect your own, and there is nothing wrong with that. But, for the good of the game in England, it would be good to see more home-based players at the top clubs.
 
 'United's critics would say `It's all right for you, you already have English players in your side'. But I think if you asked a neutral, they would rather see more home-based players.'
 
 He added: 'Under the present Treaty of Rome you couldn't make it law. It would have to be an agreement between the clubs. But if it went to a vote, I think it would get through [even though] there would be opposition from clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal, who have strong Spanish and French connections.
 
 'It would certainly be a contentious issue but I agree with the principle of it.'
 
 In an interview in the club magazine, Inside United, Ferguson also called for agents to be more strictly regulated to prevent money flowing out of the game.
 
 'I think we need a tariff for agents that brings them in line with other professions, like lawyers or accountants,' he added.
 
 'Agents need to be regulated in a far stricter way than they have been in the past.
 
 'They are a very lucky breed because as long as you have greedy club presidents, agents will always be in the driving seat. But if world football recognises the need for regulation, that would make a real difference.
 
 'The set up has to be more professional.'
 
 Wenger has also expressed his views on the topic in Arsenal's club magazine, and feels no coach 'at the highest level' would think it is a good idea.
 
 'I find the whole proposal completely ridiculous,' he said.
 
 'The thinking behind it, I believe, is to protect the national teams. But it won't protect the best players, it will protect the mediocre ones and you don't win a World Cup with mediocre players, you win it with world-class ones.
 
 'The best English players - the Rooneys, the Owens, the Gerrards, the Lampards - they are all playing for their clubs anyway.
 
 'FIFA are wrong if they think this will improve international football. Look at rugby for example. The Argentina national team - all their players play in Europe, and the national team takes advantage of that. Had they all stayed in Argentina, would they have made the semi-finals? To mix the best with the best makes everyone better.
 
 'I am worried that it could happen. I would say that it's more than 50% likely to be brought in.
 
 'FIFA is powerful enough to implement the rule internally, if (Sepp) Blatter has the support of the council and his committees. Will it go through or not, I do not know but it looks as though it could. I have already had many discussions at UEFA and it looks as though it could happen.
 
 'I don't believe one football coach at the highest level would say it's a good idea. A football coach is always confronted with the same problem - he wants to reward good players.'
 
 Asked what would happen if the rule was introduced, Wenger added: 'First of all we have to fight against it.
 
 'If you fight it that should buy us some time. During that time you have to adapt to it.'
 
 The Gunners boss fears the issue could prove divisive and refused to rule out clubs splitting from FIFA.
 
 'Maybe, I don't know what the evolution will be,' he added. 'I always think that it's the strength of the sport if it's unified at the top level and you do not have a split.
 
 'Because then the rules can begin to change and before you know it you have different sports. So that is dangerous too. If the football bodies don't take care of the sport that could happen and that's a real danger.'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 06, 2007, 07:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  The Liverpool match was simply ridiculous.  For those that recorded it and hoped to watch it later, I'll refrain from any more commentary for a little while.
that was fun to watch ... you could see the floodgates about to burst around the 16:00 mark
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 06, 2007, 08:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  by the way, fsc hints on their website that they may start picking up hd feeds
I saw that.  And I also see that Setanta is saying no way to HD feeds until at least 2009 (too expensive).
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 07, 2007, 09:46:00 am
yeah, they are too "small" of a company. crazy. doesnt setanta broadcast in england?
 
 i think that the fa should ban all nonenglish managers and throw the damn scots out
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 07, 2007, 10:45:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  I wonder if Mankie has anything to say about this...
 
 Updated: Nov. 6, 2007
 Fergie support for Blatter stance on imports
 
 Sir Alex Ferguson believes clubs should be seen to have 'a proportion of home-based players' - and feels rivals Arsenal would 'protest the loudest' at such a rule.
 
 '
Two points,
 
 1) I've been saying the same thing for years.
 
 2) Which country won the last world cup? Now look at the teamsheets for the clubs within that country and tell me what the percentage of home-grown players are in those teams?
 
 I, and Fergie, rest our case....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 07, 2007, 10:58:00 am
the top italian clubs have a ton of south american players. i think you want your best english players playing in a league against the best players possible. why would you want john terry testing himself against marlon king rather than nani?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 07, 2007, 01:30:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  2) Which country won the last world cup? Now look at the teamsheets for the clubs within that country and tell me what the percentage of home-grown players are in those teams?
 
Then explain Brazil's multiple world cups despite the vast majority of their starting 11 playing in Europe?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 07, 2007, 02:03:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  2) Which country won the last world cup? Now look at the teamsheets for the clubs within that country and tell me what the percentage of home-grown players are in those teams?
 
Then explain Brazil's multiple world cups despite the vast majority of their starting 11 playing in Europe? [/b]
errr.....EUROPE
 
 My point is not to have 100% home-grown players, but at least a majority. Just look at my own team. Beckham, Giggs, Scholes, Butt to name just four of the worlds greatest players at their peak all came through United's academy. We also have Rooney and *Keane who came in young enough for United to take credit. West Ham must get credit for Ferdinand though and  I'll give Arse credit for Walcot if he makes it because they got him young enough. I'm not opposed to foriegners but it just gets pathetic when you have teams like Arse with ZERO brits as regular starters and they're playing in the English premier league.
 
 *Republic of Ireland players would be included as part of the UK for home-grown status, because lets face it. Irish football is just subpar really so top Irish talent would be wasted playing for the likes of Derry City etc...Spain would get Gibralta and Portugal Madeira etc...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 07, 2007, 02:33:00 pm
so you like the limit on principle, not just to benefit the national team?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 07, 2007, 03:36:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so you like the limit on principle, not just to benefit the national team?
I like the limit because it gives talented kids a chance to come up through the academy system rather than teams just buy experienced foriegners then replace them with experienced foriegners.....not unlike the MLB and NHL farm systems. If it benefits the national team then great, but that isn't my main reason for supporting this idea. It's really to gives kids a chance.
 
 *edit* okay, now this has got me thinking. On second thoughts, a rule that states 7 of your players must come out of your academy, and been in the academy since age 16 or something like that, and not necessarily 'home-born' would be better. That way all young kids get a shot.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 08, 2007, 02:45:00 pm
Who would like to see Cannavaro play here in the US??
 
 (Just heard a rumour from a customer who's pretty well connected)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 08, 2007, 03:51:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Who would like to see Cannavaro play here in the US??
 
 (Just heard a rumour from a customer who's pretty well connected)
Why all the bad players Real Madrid has have to go to the US? We already lost Beckham, please let's not do the same with Cannavaro, he is awful. let him stay in Madrid!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 08, 2007, 06:06:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Who would like to see Cannavaro play here in the US??
 
 (Just heard a rumour from a customer who's pretty well connected)
Why all the bad players Real Madrid has have to go to the US? We already lost Beckham, please let's not do the same with Cannavaro, he is awful. let him stay in Madrid! [/b]
You think Beckham is a bad player?
 
 I like Cannavaro for his aggression and determination..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on November 08, 2007, 06:48:00 pm
I'm not opposed to foriegners but it just gets pathetic when you have teams like Arse with ZERO brits as regular starters and they're playing in the English premier league.
 
 [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 As I am perhaps the lone Arsenal supporter (or so it seems some time) on this board, let me say it is the club and not the nationality of the players that matter. A foreigner can bring honor to the club just as much as any Brit can.
 
 Also, if you are going to look at the players, why not also look at the coaches. If they are part of player development, then shouldn't it be that Brit coaches should be developing Brit players.
 
 While I imagine that Blatter is good intentioned (Fergie, probably not), he fails to realize football is a business, not a farm club for the national team
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 08, 2007, 07:01:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
  I'm not opposed to foriegners but it just gets pathetic when you have teams like Arse with ZERO brits as regular starters and they're playing in the English premier league.
 
 
As I am perhaps the lone Arsenal supporter (or so it seems some time) on this board, let me say it is the club and not the nationality of the players that matter. A foreigner can bring honor to the club just as much as any Brit can.
 
 Also, if you are going to look at the players, why not also look at the coaches. If they are part of player development, then shouldn't it be that Brit coaches should be developing Brit players.
 
 While I imagine that Blatter is good intentioned (Fergie, probably not), he fails to realize football is a business, not a farm club for the national team [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 Then why bother having national teams? Let's just have countries pick who the fuck they want and players play for whatever country they want, regardless of citizenship.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2007, 09:08:00 am
he has a point about managers though, i mean england couldnt do better than mcclaren? cmon, that was doomed from the start. if we would have kicked out the damn scots years ago, then the geordies wouldnt have had to suffer through souness
 
 its not like successful national teams have this kind of rule in their leagues. why kill the prem for a rule that you dont even know works
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2007, 12:27:00 pm
rooney out 4 weeks
 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=480558&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=480558&cc=5901)
 he's starting down the mike owen path, almost
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 09, 2007, 01:03:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  rooney out 4 weeks
  http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=480558&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=480558&cc=5901)
 he's starting down the mike owen path, almost
Not to be a skeptic, but Rooney's injury one day before a premiereship game he was likely to sit out, and two champions league games that are now meaningless, means that Rooney is really only being asked to sit out the two England matches.  Hmmmm?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2007, 01:05:00 pm
cant trust those scots managing american owned teams
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 09, 2007, 01:49:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  cant trust those scots managing american owned teams
...that has the core of the team on the field British.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2007, 01:52:00 pm
rio, rooney, hargreaves, all have has injuries that have kept them out of important england matches recently.
 
 sounds like fergie is to blame for the national team
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 09, 2007, 03:38:00 pm
Saturday, November 10
 
 7:30am Sunderland vs. Newcastle Utd (Set)
 10:00am Derby County vs. West Ham (Set)
 12:00pm Liverpool vs Fulham (FSC)  
 
 
 Sunday, November 11
 
 8:00am Birmingham City vs. Aston Villa (Set)
 10:00am Bolton vs. Middlesbrough (Set)
 10:00am Manchester United vs Blackburn (FSC)  
 12:00pm Portsmouth v Manchester City (FSC Del)  
 5:15pm Chelsea vs. Everton (Set del)
 6:00pm Tottenham vs Wigan (FSC Del)    
 
 Monday, Novbember 12
 
 3:00 Reading v. Arsenal (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 09, 2007, 03:49:00 pm
i'll be setting the alarm and wearing my GOALden boy away shirt tomorrow   :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 16, 2007, 04:49:00 pm
will israel come through tomorrow? game is on fsc, by the way
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 16, 2007, 07:44:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  will israel come through tomorrow? game is on fsc, by the way
With England being off, I assumed nobody cared about this weekends football....
 
 Saturday, November17
 
 
 9:00am South Africa v USA (FSC)
 1:00pm Israel v Russia  (FSC)  
 1:00pm Norway vs. Turkey (setanta)
 3:00pm Czech Republic v Slovakia (FSC)
 4:00pm Portugal vs. Armenia (Setanta)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 16, 2007, 08:33:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i'll be setting the alarm and wearing my GOALden boy away shirt tomorrow    :D  
No Owen, no hope?
 
 Michael Owen left England coach Steve McClaren nursing a major injury headache after he limped out of the friendly win over Austria with a thigh strain. Early reports suggest a month on the sidelines which would rule him out of Wednesday's potentially crucial European Championship showdown with Croatia at Wembley.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 17, 2007, 09:54:00 am
that was for the derby last week
 
 of course mike gets injured playing a pointless game for england surprised = no one   :roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 17, 2007, 04:46:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i'll be setting the alarm and wearing my GOALden boy away shirt tomorrow     :D  
Rooney's out!
 
 BTW - Scotland getting kicked out with virtually the last kick of the match is just priceless. HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHA, stupid eff'n jocko's.
 
 A draw for England will do it, although it will have to be 0-0, because with Rooney and Mike out who's going to score?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on November 17, 2007, 05:44:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  will israel come through tomorrow? game is on fsc, by the way
I guess the answer to that is yes.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 19, 2007, 10:33:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i'll be setting the alarm and wearing my GOALden boy away shirt tomorrow       :D    
Rooney's out!
 
 BTW - Scotland getting kicked out with virtually the last kick of the match is just priceless. HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHA, stupid eff'n jocko's.
 
 A draw for England will do it, although it will have to be 0-0, because with Rooney and Mike out who's going to score? [/b]
crouch has a way better international goal scoring record in the past two years as wayne-o
 
 all joking aside, if england blows it, will wembley burn to the ground
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 19, 2007, 11:39:00 am
Not to discredit England, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians were paid to lose the game. I am afraid this is starting to happen a lot in tenis, football, and even cricket, maybe betting should be forbidden.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 19, 2007, 11:52:00 am
wow, that's just a wild accusation. especially since the russian players were supposedly due $80,000 each if they qualified
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 19, 2007, 01:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Not to discredit England, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians were paid to lose the game. I am afraid this is starting to happen a lot in tenis, football, and even cricket, maybe betting should be forbidden.
I have to say, that's the dumbest thing to be said on this thread since it was first started....It's the refs that get paid to fix games, not teams.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on November 19, 2007, 03:08:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Not to discredit England, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians were paid to lose the game. I am afraid this is starting to happen a lot in tenis, football, and even cricket, maybe betting should be forbidden.
I have to say, that's the dumbest thing to be said on this thread since it was first started....It's the refs that get paid to fix games, not teams. [/b]
are you being serious about only the refs fixing the games? germany austria in 1982, spain 12- malta 1...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 21, 2007, 11:04:00 am
i'm skipping out of work early, and i was thinking of popping in somewhere to watch england today, however the closest bar with the match is 16 miles away. god i hate setanta sometimes
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 21, 2007, 11:46:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i'm skipping out of work early, and i was thinking of popping in somewhere to watch england today, however the closest bar with the match is 16 miles away. god i hate setanta sometimes
It's $20 to watch it in a bar, $25 to watch it at home.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 21, 2007, 12:22:00 pm
right, but if i pay $20 cash then it doesnt show up on my cable bill
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 21, 2007, 01:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  right, but if i pay $20 cash then it doesnt show up on my cable bill
Smackette never sees the DirecTV bill.  You should have seen her face last week when she saw the half off commercial for Sunday Ticket in HD.  Not good.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 21, 2007, 01:21:00 pm
yeah, i pay all the bills too, but i'd get pissed when i saw the bill, whereas if i pay it right away i only have to think about it once.
 
 i've been asked a couple of times in front of my wife how much the ticket costs. and uh...hopefully they wont charge us an extra $99 for hd next year
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 21, 2007, 01:48:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  yeah, i pay all the bills too, but i'd get pissed when i saw the bill, whereas if i pay it right away i only have to think about it once.
 
 
I used to think that way until I paid for the Greece world cup Q game - so glad I did.
 
 For full disclosure, I'm not paying for the game and will be downloading it this afternoon to watch this evening when I get home.  It's nice to be on the West Coast.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on November 21, 2007, 04:38:00 pm
So far it seems like $20 or $25 saved as Croatia is up 2 - 0 in the first half.  
 
 Guess the Russians knew what they were doing if they doing if they took the cash. They'll still get in.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on November 21, 2007, 06:42:00 pm
I really don't give a toss that England didn't qualify...really! Hopefully the FA have finally learned a lesson and will get a manager that knows what the hell he's doing, and get shot of this idiot, who's career peaked as assistant to Fergie...He really proved himself at Boro!   :roll:  
 
 I'm just glad it's over, it's been like waiting for a loose tooth to fall out..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 21, 2007, 07:18:00 pm
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It seemed McClaren's version of the Great Escape would reach a memorable and totally satisfactory conclusion.
 
 Instead, just as Steve McQueen was recaptured and jailed, so England were snared again as substitute Petric belted home from 20 yards to knock them out.
I'll be whistling all the way home... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3LCeDn5gp8&feature=related)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 21, 2007, 10:00:00 pm
instead of watching the match i went running and ate a terrible meal that kinda made me ill. i think i came out ahead
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 26, 2007, 02:35:00 pm
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE - MATCHDAY 5
 
 Tuesday, November 27
 
 2:45pm Man United v FC Porto (ESPN2)
 2:45pm Sevilla vs. Arsenal (SET)
 5:00pm Lyon v Barcelona (ESPN Classic)
 5:00pm Lyon vs. Barcelona (SET Del)
 6:45pm Inter Milan vs. Fenerbache (SET Del)
 
 Wednesday, November 28
 
 2:45pm Rosenborg v Chelsea (ESPN2)
 2:45pm Liverpool vs. Porto (Set)
 5:00pm Bremen v Real Madrid (ESPN Classic)
 5:00pm Lazio vs. Olympiacos (Set Del)
 6:45pm Bremen vs. Real Madrid (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 26, 2007, 03:00:00 pm
thanks for not bring up this weekend's toon match
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 30, 2007, 12:53:00 pm
Saturday, December 1
 
 7:45am Chelsea v West Ham (Set)
 10:00am Blackburn v Newcastle (Set)
 10:00am Wigan v Manchester City (FSC)
 10:00am Sunderland v Derby County (Set Xtra)
 12:15pm Aston Villa v Arsenal (FSC)
 2:30 Portsmouth v Everton (Set Del)
 
 Sunday, December 2
 
 10:00am Liverpool v Bolton (Set)
 11:00am Tottenham v Birmingham (FSC)
 
 Monday, December 3
 
 2:00pm Manchester United v Fulham (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 30, 2007, 12:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  thanks for not bring up this weekend's toon match
Do you think a 1-0 loss to Bolton was any better?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 30, 2007, 01:17:00 pm
dunno, did man u play a 5-3-2 with three central defenders? did they start their best midfielder at left back and not start the second best? did they have only one shot? i'm guessing no    :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 30, 2007, 01:21:00 pm
Oh no, they looked terrible, don't get me wrong.  I was a bit upset that I woke up early to watch that piece of crap so that I could watch United live without ruining that match.  But it was hard for me to point that out when United lost to a team that hadn't won since August.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 30, 2007, 01:23:00 pm
well, that never stops mank
 
 i guess i was secretly hoping someone would start shit so i use the phase 'lost the plot'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on November 30, 2007, 01:41:00 pm
Beasley Out for the Season (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=486362&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines&cc=5739)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 02, 2007, 09:59:00 pm
EURO 2008 DRAW
 
 GROUP A
 
 1.  Switzerland
 2.  Czech Republic
 3.  Portugal
 4.  Turkey
 
 GROUP B
 
 1.  Austria
 2.  Croatia
 3.  Germany
 4.  Poland
 
 GROUP C(!!!)
 
 1.  Netherlands
 2.  Italy
 3.  Romania
 4.  France
 
 GROUP D
 
 1.  Greece
 2.  Sweden
 3.  Spain
 4.  Russia
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on December 03, 2007, 01:35:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Beasley Out for the Season (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=486362&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines&cc=5739)
Bummer about Beasley.  He was coming back into his '02 form with Rangers.  Now we have to fall back on Convey...who I hope proves me wrong when I say he won't be international quality again.
 
 In other news, here's to Fulham stomping Man U at Old Trafford.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 03, 2007, 01:43:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  EURO 2008 DRAW
 
 GROUP A
 
 1.  Switzerland
 2.  Czech Republic
 3.  Portugal
 4.  Turkey
 
 
at least there's a good chance that roz or emre will advance
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 03, 2007, 01:48:00 pm
A HODGE PODGE OF MID WEEK MATCHES
 
 MONDAY
 3:00pm Premier League: Man United v Fulham (Set)
 
 TUESDAY
 
 2:45pm Champions League: AC Milan v Celtic (ESPN2)
 
 WEDNESDAY
 
 2:45pm UEFA CUp: Everton v St. Petersburg (FSC)
 3:00pm Premier League: Newcastle v Arsenal (Set)
 4:45 pm UEFA Cup: Copenhagen vs. Athletico Madrid (Set Del)
 6:30 pm UEFA Cup: Boleslav vs. AEK Athens (Set Del)
 
 THURSDAY
 
 2:30pm UEFA Cup: Anderlecht vs. Tottenham (Set)
 5:00pm UEFA Cup: Crvena Zvezda vs. Bolton (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 03, 2007, 01:49:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 GROUP B
 
 1.  Austria
 2.  Croatia
 3.  Germany
 4.  Poland  
And this one is sure to cause a riot or two, mostly involving supremecists.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 04, 2007, 07:20:00 pm
Q&A: Freddy Adu (http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/04/qa-freddy-adu/index.html?hp)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 05, 2007, 11:30:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  3:00pm Premier League: Newcastle v Arsenal (Set)
 
today's match is big. the uninspired performances and baffling team selections have lost the geordie faithful and the locker room. supposedly sam wants to sell given and bring in the finn from bolton (i'm not even going to try and spell his name) which could well trigger riots in the bigg market. i dont think that newcastle need to win today to save sam, or even get a point, but they have to at least LOOK good. saturday against brum, different story   :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 05, 2007, 01:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  EURO 2008 DRAW
 
 GROUP A
 
 1.  Switzerland
 2.  Czech Republic
 3.  Portugal
 4.  Turkey
 
 
at least there's a good chance that roz or emre will advance [/b]
GROUP C(!!!)
 
 1. Netherlands
 2. Italy
 3. Romania
 4. France
 
 GOOD GOD!! The quarter finals are group C!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 05, 2007, 08:30:00 pm
I just got a tip that Drogba's out 3-4 months, but I have yet to confirm this with a reliable media source.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2007, 10:18:00 am
newcastle was the superior side yesterday. good to see a spirited performance, there is hope yet. alan smith was awesome last night, please play him up top sam
 
 oh and you're welcome manusa fans. sorry we couldnt take all 3
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 06, 2007, 12:04:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  newcastle was the superior side yesterday. good to see a spirited performance, there is hope yet. alan smith was awesome last night, please play him up top sam
 
 oh and you're welcome manusa fans. sorry we couldnt take all 3
Couldn't agree more.  The team looked strong and that was the Alan Smith I think United wanted.  They probably should have played him up front instead of the midfield if they wanted that type of performance.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 06, 2007, 12:06:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  I just got a tip that Drogba's out 3-4 months, but I have yet to confirm this with a reliable media source.
Not quite 3-4 months at this point, but this, plus the African Nations Cup means Chelsea are without Drogba until at least mid-February. (http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2222829,00.html)  Bummer for the Ivory Coast though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2007, 12:49:00 pm
yeah, i dont think dukes is totally fit either. kind of makes it a nobrainer to start smith. but even so, smith just brings more to the table than dukes, although smudger doesnt have a great goal scoring record.
 
 in any event, duff should be back soon, so hopefully sam will move milner back to the right and achieve some balance. geremi is not a winger
 
 the anc is going to be rough for the toon. any idea if it'll be on tv in the states?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 06, 2007, 01:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  the anc is going to be rough for the toon. any idea if it'll be on tv in the states?
You know, I haven't heard.  Setanta had the Asian Cup, but they don't list the ANC on their web site. I'll look into it.
 
 And United is in real trouble too with the ANC.  Oh wait, they don't have any Africans (Frenchies don't count).  Nevermind.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2007, 01:23:00 pm
hunh, not one african player. didnt realize that. newcastle does have more than most
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 06, 2007, 03:57:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 [qb]
 And United is in real trouble too with the ANC.  Oh wait, they don't have any Africans (Frenchies don't count).  Nevermind. [/b]
..so I guess there is an advantage to having a core of home-grown players then...  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2007, 04:33:00 pm
or keep your imports to portuguese and south american at least   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 06, 2007, 04:56:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  or keep your imports to portuguese and south american at least    :)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 06, 2007, 05:02:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Please don't make me post pics of all UTD's Brit/Irish 1st team squad members again.   :)  
No need, here's the link (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013662;p=13)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 06, 2007, 05:54:00 pm
i was obviously trying to wind manc up, but man u hardly has that many more brits/irish players than newcastle. newcastle just loves the african players
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 07, 2007, 04:06:00 pm
Saturday, Dec 8
 
 7:30am Aston Villa vs. Portsmouth (Set)
 10:00am Manchester Utd vs. Derby County (Set)
 10:00am Chelsea vs Sunderland (FSC)
 12:00pm Reading vs Liverpool (FSC)
 2:30pm Everton vs. Fulham (Set Del)
 4:30pm Newcastle vs Birmingham (FSC Del)  
 
 
 Sunday, Dec 9
 
 7:30am Middlesbrough vs. Arsenal (Set)
 11:00am Blackburn v West Ham (FSC)  
 4:30pm Tottenham v Man City (FSC)
 5:15pm Bolton vs. Wigan (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 07, 2007, 04:16:00 pm
hey smackie, there's no truth that altidore is going to the toon, right? right??
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 07, 2007, 04:26:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hey smackie, there's no truth that altidore is going to the toon, right? right??
I haven't heard that and my guy at US Soccer didn't answer so I'll let you know if he calls back.
 
 What I do know is that US Soccer players are getting a bad rap for not wanting to play in countries where English is not the primary language, but when they get to England and can't cut the mustard, they're left in limbo.  
 
 So it would make sense for the Toon to be on the list as Jozy was in Italy and Spain trying out, but the only thing I heard about the tryouts was him asking other Americans what it's like to live in a country that doesn't speak English.  I seem to remember him being fluent in French, however, so I would bet that it would be between an English (or Scottish) club or a French club.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 07, 2007, 05:01:00 pm
i heard real is the other interested party, but he wouldnt really get any time there. his parents are haitian, so the french part might be out there too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 07, 2007, 05:24:00 pm
hmmm...of the 'stars' (adu, zizzo, bradley, szetela) of the under 20 u.s. team, jozy seems to be the only one not in europe, none in england/scotland/ireland. could a change be coming with the next generation?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 10, 2007, 02:16:00 pm
WOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
 
 Why is it Arseholes can't seem to play north of the Watford gap?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 10, 2007, 02:30:00 pm
cause they rarely play there   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 10, 2007, 07:35:00 pm
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE MATCHDAY 6
 
 Tuesday, Dec 11
 
 2:45pm Olympic Marseille vs. Liverpool (ESPN2)
 2:45pm Chelsea vs. Valencia (Set)
 4:45pm Porto vs. Besiktas (Set Del)
 5:00pm Real Madrid vs. Lazio (ESPN Classic)
 6:30pm FC Schalke vs. Rosenborg (Set Del)
 
 Wednesday, Dec 12
 
 2:45pm Rangers vs. Lyon (ESPN2)
 2:45pm Roma vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 4:45pm Arsenal vs. Steaua (Set Del)
 5:00pm Barcelona vs. Stuttgart (ESPN Classic)
 6:30pm Fenerbache vs. CSKA Moscow (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 13, 2007, 09:25:00 pm
Sunday, December 16
 
 8:30am Liverpool vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 11:00am Arsenal vs. Chelsea  (FSC)  
 
 Man.  My head might explode.
 
 
 And if anybody cares what's on Saturday, here's Saturday's matches:
 
 10:00am West Ham vs. Everton (Set)
 10:00am Manchester City vs. Bolton (FSC)
 12:00pm Fulham vs. Newcastle (FSC)  
 2:30pm Sunderland vs. Aston Villa (Set Del)
 4:15pm Portsmouth vs. Tottenham (Set Del)
 4:30pm Wigan vs. Blackburn (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 14, 2007, 10:35:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Sunday, December 16
 
 8:30am Liverpool vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 11:00am Arsenal vs. Chelsea  (FSC)  
 
 )
I'm afraid they will be disapointing tight and boring matches.
 
 scum 0-2 United (Rooney and Ronny)
 Ars 0-0 chelski
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 14, 2007, 11:06:00 am
Liverpool 2- Manchester United 2
 Arsenal 2 - Chelsea 1
 
 Valencia 1 - Barcelona 3 (maybe dreaming here given how bad both teams are playing)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 14, 2007, 12:04:00 pm
Drogba is out so who's going to score the goal for chelski?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 15, 2007, 05:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 And if anybody cares what's on Saturday, here's Saturday's matches:
 
 10:00am Manchester City vs. Bolton (FSC)
 
pretty good match here
 
 newcastle with two wins on the trot   :)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on December 16, 2007, 01:42:00 pm
hows the rafalution doing these days??
   :D  
 good man tevez!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on December 16, 2007, 06:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Drogba is out so who's going to score the goal for chelski?
Apparently no one!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on December 17, 2007, 10:40:00 am
apparently no one in Chelsea is able to score these days, I thought Sevchenko, but was wrong.
 
 By the way, this coming weekend the game in Spain, Barcelona - Real Madrid. Unfortunately, Messi got injured on Saturday so the game is now quite open.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2007, 10:43:00 am
thanks for the heads up, i'll have to set my dvr
 
 i cant believe with all that spending, chelski basically relies on one forward
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2007, 11:51:00 am
What about the 30 gazillion quid scum shelled out for Torres? He couldn't find the net either...   :p
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2007, 12:02:00 pm
at least they have
  <img src="http://aardling.com/wp-content/uploads/Peter-Crouch-robot-football.gif" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 17, 2007, 01:19:00 pm
When it was over I was quite happy Ryan Babel didn't play the entire 90 minutes.  He would have found the back of the net for sure.
 
 Mank, you were one Rooney gaff and one Peter Cech gaff away from correctly predicting both socres.  Nicely done.
 
 And in case you all missed it, Terry broke three bones and is out for nearly two months.  No Drogba, no Terry, no Essien, no Kalou, no Mikel, no Makalele (oh wait, France moved his family to the mainland, nevermind).  That's a team in trouble through February.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2007, 01:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  at least they have
   <img src="http://aardling.com/wp-content/uploads/Peter-Crouch-robot-football.gif" alt=" - " />
Last I remember from my playing days....it's pretty hard scoring from the bench!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2007, 01:31:00 pm
i contend that roeder's fate was sealed when he was unable to land babel last year. not sure how i feel about that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2007, 01:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  When it was over I was quite happy Ryan Babel didn't play the entire 90 minutes.  He would have found the back of the net for sure.
 
 Mank, you were one Rooney gaff and one Peter Cech gaff away from correctly predicting both socres.  Nicely done.
 
 And in case you all missed it, Terry broke three bones and is out for nearly two months.  No Drogba, no Terry, no Essien, no Kalou, no Mikel, no Makalele (oh wait, France moved his family to the mainland, nevermind).  That's a team in trouble through February.
I have absolutely no, none, zilch, zero sympathy for them..with their squad they could put out two premiership teams, both in contention for champs league spots, so if they can't sort their egos out and start playing then tough titty!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2007, 01:33:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  at least they have
    <img src="http://aardling.com/wp-content/uploads/Peter-Crouch-robot-football.gif" alt=" - " />
Last I remember from my playing days....it's pretty hard scoring from the bench!! [/b]
what are we arguing about? i thought it was striker depth
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2007, 04:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  at least they have
     <img src="http://aardling.com/wp-content/uploads/Peter-Crouch-robot-football.gif" alt=" - " />
Last I remember from my playing days....it's pretty hard scoring from the bench!! [/b]
what are we arguing about? i thought it was striker depth [/b]
I didn't realize we were arguing.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2007, 05:03:00 pm
i always take !! as arguing. my bad
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 17, 2007, 06:01:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i always take !! as arguing. my bad
!! means a touch of sarcasm in the humor.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 17, 2007, 10:29:00 pm
humor or humour   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 18, 2007, 11:05:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  humor or humour    ;)  
Either one...I've crossed the Atlantic so many times even I'm not sure which is which anymore!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on December 18, 2007, 11:12:00 am
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Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i always take !! as arguing. my bad
!! means a touch of sarcasm in the humor. [/b]
either that, or bull930 is on the way.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 18, 2007, 02:02:00 pm
If you're like me and need to figure out where you need to be at certain times for the holidays...
 
 SATURDAY, DECEMBER 22
 
 7:30am  Arsenal vs. Tottenham (Set)
 10:00am Liverpool vs.  Portsmouth  (FSC)
 10:00am Aston Villa vs. Manchester City (Set)
 12:00pm Bolton vs. Birmingham (Set Del)
 12:00pm Fulham vs. Wigan (FSC)
 1:45pm Reading vs. Sunderland (Set Del)
 4:30pm Middlesbrough vs. West Ham (FSC Del)
 
 
 SUNDAY, DECEMBER 23
 
 7:00am Manchester Utd vs. Everton (Set & FSC)
 9:00am Newcastle vs. Derby County (Set)
 11:00am Blackburn vs. Chelsea (FSC)  
 
 
 BOXING DAY
 
 8:00am West Ham vs. Reading (Set)
 8:00am Chelsea vs. Aston Villa (FSC)  
 10:00am Sunderland vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 10:00am Derby vs. Liverpool (FSC)
 12:00pm Tottenham vs. Fulham (Set Del)
 12:00pm Everton vs. Bolton (FSC)  
 1:45pm Wigan vs. Newcastle (Set Del)
 2:30pm Portsmouth vs. Arsenal (FSC)
 3:30pm Birmingham vs. Middlesbrough (Set Del and on FSC @ 5)
 
 
 THURSDAY, DEC 27
 
 2:45pm Manchester City vs. Blackburn (Set)
 
 
 SATURDAY, DEC 29
 
 9:45am West Ham vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 10:00am Chelsea vs. Newcastle (FSC)
 12:00pm Everton vs. Arsenal (FSC)  
 12:15pm Tottenham vs. Reading (Set Del)
 2:00pm Wigan vs. Aston Villa (Set Del)
 2:30pm Birmingham vs. Fulham (FSC)
 3:45pm Sunderland vs. Bolton (Set Del)
 
 
 SUNDAY, DEC 30
 
 8:30am Derby County vs. Blackburn (Set)
 9:00am Portsmouth vs. Middlesbrough (FSC)
 11:00am Manchester City  vs. Liverpool (FSC)
 
 
 TUESDAY, JAN 1
 
 10:00am Manchester United vs. Birmingham (FSC)
 12:00pm  Aston Villa vs. Tottenham (FSC)  
 2:30pm Reading  vs. Portsmouth (FSC)
 
 (Setanta has not announced their 2008 schedule)
 
 WEDNESDAY, JAN 2
 
 2:30pm Newcastle vs. Man City (FSC)  
 5:00pm Bolton vs. Derby (FSC)  
 
 (Setanta has not announced their 2008 schedule)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 18, 2007, 02:22:00 pm
wonder how the man u/neverton match got on both channels
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 18, 2007, 02:26:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  wonder how the man u/neverton match got on both channels
I'm not going to believe it until I see it, but they both list it.  I thought it was weird too.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 18, 2007, 02:50:00 pm
i usually go through the channel guide to set up my dvr recordings on sunday, and both channels definitely had it listed. what ought to be most interesting is if they have the same feed
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 20, 2007, 12:52:00 pm
So, who would you make England Captain?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 20, 2007, 01:10:00 pm
owen   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 20, 2007, 01:19:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  owen    ;)  
I said captain, as in on-field captain.... not head cheerleader from the treatment room.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 20, 2007, 01:33:00 pm
my bad. steve taylor, then  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 20, 2007, 01:37:00 pm
in all seriousness, john terry is a dick, and i kind of think gerrard isnt a lock to start...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on December 21, 2007, 12:19:00 pm
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW
 
 Ties to be played February 19/20 & March 4/5  
 
 Celtic  v Barcelona  
 Lyon  v Man Utd  
 Schalke 04  v FC Porto  
 Liverpool  v Inter Milan
 Roma  v Real Madrid  
 Arsenal v AC Milan  
 Olympiacos  v Chelsea  
 Fenerbahce  v FC Sevilla
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 28, 2007, 12:47:00 pm
big sam wasnt my first choice as manager, but when he was appointed, i figured joey barton would be the kind of player he could turn around. now crazy joe looks like he could be the last straw. would not be surprised if sam gets the ax in the next month or two. of course the first two reasons are tactics and team selection...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 28, 2007, 01:09:00 pm
Barton is your typical scouse scumbag....and always will be. I bet they have a security guard in the locker room and safe to lock up the other players wallets and watches with that scouse twat around.
 
 Remanded in custody over the new year weekend.....it's classic, just classic and couldn't have happened to a more deserving dirtball.
 
 As for Big Sam - Bolton was about his limit in my opinion. He coaches just ugly bully boy football, and that will only ever get a team mid-table.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 28, 2007, 01:22:00 pm
haha, you love the scouse
 
 but seriously, what kind of professional gets into a fight at 5 AM in a mcdonalds during in the midst of the busy holiday fixture list. so fucking stupid. i mean, stay away from the big macs at least   ;)  
 
 the 4-3-3 relies on the middle striker heavily and that's fine if they can score (which smith doesnt excell at) and run (which dukes can't). oba isnt great as a wide man, and mike is completely wasted out there. the players that should benefit are zogs and jimmy mils, but somehow they both play out of position
 
 the point total is mediocre, but the effort and tactics give little hope that sam, you know, knows what he's doing. cant believe that another manager will be sacked, but its not hard to see it happening
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 28, 2007, 01:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 
 but seriously, what kind of professional gets into a fight at 5 AM in a mcdonalds during in the midst of the busy holiday fixture list.
 
 a scouse one?
 
 
 the point total is mediocre, but the effort and tactics give little hope that sam, you know, knows what he's doing. cant believe that another manager will be sacked, but its not hard to see it happening
I'm thinking Morono for your next one....if they can afford him and his transfer budget demands of course.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 28, 2007, 01:49:00 pm
i'd take him in a second, but he'd never do it
 
 i guess i could make myself feel better that sam wasnt hired by ashley, but its only a small consolation
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on December 29, 2007, 04:33:00 pm
Cheers to West Ham!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on December 31, 2007, 10:33:00 am
Wasn't part of Moreno's settlement with Chelsea that he could not manage in the EPL for a certain number of years?
 
 And why is there no talk about how Hodgson will take my Fulham triumphantly above relegation?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on December 31, 2007, 11:25:00 am
for this season only. manc was only half serious i believe, he'd never go to newcastle (or anywhere else in england) when he has milan, madrid and barca interested
 
 its to early for relegation/nonrelgation talk...unless youre the rams
 
 i was so mad after the kalou noncall that i ran errands rather than watch the everton/arsenal match live    :mad:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on December 31, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
  Cheers to West Ham!!
When I realized I hadn't worn my lucky Man Utd socks that I bought at Old Trafford, and Ronaldo missed the penalty I just knew in my heart that West Ham was going to come back and win...so it was my fault, totally and utterly my fault for not wearing the socks.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 02, 2008, 06:10:00 pm
FA CUP 3rd Round
 
 Saturday, Jan 5
 
 10:00am Ipswich Town v Portsmouth (FSC)
 12:00pm Aston Villa vs Manchester United (PPV $15)
 
 Sunday, Jan 6
 
 9:00am Burnley v Arsenal (FSC)  
 11:00am Luton Town vs Liverpool (PPV $15)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 02, 2008, 06:25:00 pm
i think newcastle/stoke is on too (setanta?)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 02, 2008, 06:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i think newcastle/stoke is on too (setanta?)
Do you think Sam will even be on the bench for that one?   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 02, 2008, 07:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i think newcastle/stoke is on too (setanta?)
I stand corrected:
 
 Sun. Jan. 6  
 
 1:00pm Stoke City v Newcastle (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 03, 2008, 10:02:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i think newcastle/stoke is on too (setanta?)
Do you think Sam will even be on the bench for that one?     :(
 
 yesterday's game gave me gas. i must be getting used to samball failures because no vomiting was involved
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 07, 2008, 02:11:00 pm
Carling Cup Semi-Final 1st Leg
 
 Tuesday, Jan 7
 
 3:00pm Chelsea vs. Everton (Set)
 
 
 Wednesday, Jan 8
 
 3:00pm Arsenal vs. Tottenham (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 07, 2008, 03:48:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Carling Cup Semi-Final 1st Leg
 
 Tuesday, Jan 7
 
 3:00pm Chelsea vs. Everton (Set)
 
 
 Wednesday, Jan 8
 
 3:00pm Arsenal vs. Tottenham (Set)
Come on the Toffees!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 08, 2008, 10:15:00 am
when are the fa cup replays
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 08, 2008, 11:28:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  when are the fa cup replays
I believe a week today.
 
 BTW - what am I missing with Anelka? To me he's another Gerrard, a good player on a team of average players, but nothing special.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 08, 2008, 01:10:00 pm
whether or not anelka is great or not isnt as important to me as his age (28). seems like way too much for a player with only a few years left
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 08, 2008, 01:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  when are the fa cup replays
I believe a week today.
  [/b]
Teusday and Wednesday next week, and one of these two games is likely to be on FSC next Wednesday:
 
 Man City  v  West Ham  
 Newcastle  v  Stoke
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on January 09, 2008, 02:02:00 pm
Big Sam's out: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=496793&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=496793&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2008, 02:11:00 pm
beat me by 15 minutes
 
 cant say i feel good about it...but its for the best that he goes. dont have the foggiest who's going to replace him though   :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 09, 2008, 03:02:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  beat me by 15 minutes
 
 cant say i feel good about it...but its for the best that he goes. dont have the foggiest who's going to replace him though    :(  
KEVIN KEEGAN!!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2008, 03:05:00 pm
honestly the only names i've even heard are shearer and jose, and maureen isnt happening
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2008, 05:01:00 pm
scratch uncle al: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7180147.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7180147.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 09, 2008, 05:49:00 pm
Do you realize that since 1997 the magpies have had a new manager every 1.8 years on average(6). What manager of quality would take that job with those statistics?
 
 Shearer didn't win squat in 10 years as a player up there and I doubt he would fair any better as a manager, although the Sunderland derby would be interesting with Keano as I doubt they're on each other's christmas card list. I think Jol is your best candidate if he's interested.
 
 Bottom line is this, unless you have an open checkbook like morono had at chelski (I could've brought success to chelski with that kind of money) a manager needs at least three years to build a team. He has to get shot of the dead weight and bring in players who fit into his gameplan. You can't dump a manager with a bunch of players he had no choice in selecting, very little money and give him 4 months to bring success.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2008, 06:13:00 pm
i agree on shearer, the whole idea is really silly
 
 sam is gone not because newcastle isnt winning. he was fired because the players HE bought were disappointing (enrique, rozenhal, dukes, smith hasnt been great either) or just a disaster (joey barton). he was fired because of negative tactics (playing for a tie at scumderland? seriously). he was fired because of insane team selection. he was fired because he wasnt the chairman's choice in the first place. he was a poor choice by an even poor chairman
 
 jol i think would be a fine choice
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 09, 2008, 06:38:00 pm
I nominate God's Shoeshine to manage the Toon at Old Trafford this weekend.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 09, 2008, 06:50:00 pm
i'd play 4-4-2 with zogs and milner on the correct sides.   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 09, 2008, 07:38:00 pm
I hope they put Smith on the field because he'll get a standing ovation from the OT faithful...oh, and Butt.
 
 It wouldn't surprise me if toon pull out a result this weekend because they'll have that siege mentality...I hope not, but stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2008, 11:17:00 am
i'd be really really surprised if smudger or butt were not captain, let alone playing
 
 the buzz has 'arry in all but a done deal. not sure how to feel about that
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 11, 2008, 04:08:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i'd be really really surprised if smudger or butt were not captain, let alone playing
 
 the buzz has 'arry in all but a done deal. not sure how to feel about that
Might work out just fine because he seems to have a knack of putting a quality team together from a bunch of less than average players.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2008, 04:22:00 pm
plus he believes in attacking football, so its not all doom and gloom. should be interesting if ashley opens up his check book for his own manager
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2008, 05:11:00 pm
Saturday, January 12
 
 9:30am Middlesbrough v Liverpool (Set)
 10:00am Arsenal v Birmingham City (FSC)
 10:00am Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur (Set Xtra)
 12:15pm Manchester United v Newcastle United (FSC)
 2:30pm West Ham United v Fulham [Set delay]
 4:30pm Everton v Manchester City[FSC delay]
 6:00pm Aston Villa v Reading [Set delay]
 
 
 Sunday, January 13
 
 8:30am Sunderland v Portsmouth (Set)
 11:00am Bolton Wanderers v Blackburn Rovers (FSC)
 
 
 Tuesday, January 15
 
 3:00pm Liverpool v Luton Town (FSC)
 
 
 Wednesday, January 16
 
 3:00pm Manchester City v West Ham United (FSC)
 
 No word on whether or not Newcastle will be on PPV on Wednesday.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2008, 05:42:00 pm
how does that work? can i buy it when i get home or do i have to buy it in the afternoon and dvr it? does that even work   :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2008, 05:50:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  how does that work? can i buy it when i get home or do i have to buy it in the afternoon and dvr it? does that even work    :(  
If it's going to be available, it should available somewhere between 24-48 hours before the match.  You can purchase it (online or direclty with your remote) and DVR it to watch when you get home (it usually stays on the DVR for a set amount of time - 24 hours to one week).  But I just don't know if there's a big enough market for it to be offered.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 11, 2008, 05:51:00 pm
too bad its the fa cup, cause otherwise it would be on setanta xtra
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 12, 2008, 01:27:00 am
Nicolas Anelka is set to sign for his 5th Premier League club after Bolton accepted what is believed to be a £15m fee for the French international striker from Chelsea. Anelka has already played for Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City and has been signed as a direct replacement for Didier Drogba, currently at the African Nations' Cup and believed to be exiting Stamford Bridge this summer. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=497228&cc=5901)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 12, 2008, 11:46:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Nicolas Anelka is set to sign for his 5th Premier League club after Bolton accepted what is believed to be a ¬£15m fee for the French international striker from Chelsea. Anelka has already played for Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City and has been signed as a direct replacement for Didier Drogba, currently at the African Nations' Cup and believed to be exiting Stamford Bridge this summer.
  • [/url] [/b]
(http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=497228&cc=5901)
I know Didier Drogba, Didier Drogba was a friend of mine, and Nicholas Anelka is no Didier Drogba.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 12, 2008, 03:50:00 pm
I think thats what they call a good, old-fashioned thrashing!
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  I hope they put Smith on the field because he'll get a standing ovation from the OT faithful...oh, and Butt.
 
 It wouldn't surprise me if toon pull out a result this weekend because they'll have that siege mentality...I hope not, but stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 12, 2008, 03:55:00 pm
I guess Big Ol'Sam wasn't that bad after all!!!!
 I bet he's in the pub laughing his arse off right now!!!!!
 
 It wasn't the final whistle, it was the mercy shot to put that poor magpie out of it's misery!!!
 
   :p
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 12, 2008, 06:13:00 pm
except, they were his players that arent good enough. more proof that he should be out rather than handed a checkbook
 
 or chequebook even   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Smylie on January 12, 2008, 07:14:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Nicolas Anelka is set to sign for his 5th Premier League club after Bolton accepted what is believed to be a ¬£15m fee for the French international striker from Chelsea. Anelka has already played for Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City and has been signed as a direct replacement for Didier Drogba, currently at the African Nations' Cup and believed to be exiting Stamford Bridge this summer.
  • [/url] [/b]
(http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=497228&cc=5901)
I know Didier Drogba, Didier Drogba was a friend of mine, and Nicholas Anelka is no Didier Drogba. [/b]
As a chelsea fan, I think that Anelka has been signed as a Drogba replaced only for the ACN.  No way are they expecting him to be their #1 next season if Didier leaves, which i still dont see happening.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 14, 2008, 11:12:00 am
As a non-chealski fan, this upcoming summer will see players trying to leave stamford bridge like rats off a sinking ship, and the rich russian will probably sell off and go do something more interesting.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2008, 11:23:00 am
i dont know that you could do much better than anelka with the system chelsea runs
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 14, 2008, 12:08:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i dont know that you could do much better than anelka with the system chelsea runs
Peter Crouch?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2008, 12:35:00 pm
peter crouch still plays football? who knew
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 14, 2008, 12:53:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  peter crouch still plays football? who knew
Replacing Drogba with Anelka tells me money bags is getting bored with the whole thing so his checkbook is staying in his pocket. That's like replacing your Ferrari with a toyota prius.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Summerteeth on January 14, 2008, 12:56:00 pm
No, Roman and Avram just wanted someone who is not cap tied for the CL.  I'm not sure there's anyone who fits that criteria that is significantly better.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2008, 01:02:00 pm
a prius sounds way more practical    :o  
 
 i know you hate anelka, but he can score in the prem in a similar system, with a far shittier team. like the judge says hes not cup tied. i would bet they bring in someone else for depth in the summer, but i totally hope romie is bored and punts the whole silly club
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 14, 2008, 01:12:00 pm
You know what I don't get about the ANC - it's not like this was sprung on anybody.  It's always been this way, so why didn't more teams plan accordingly?
 
 And I think the Judge is spot on.  It was all about the CL.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2008, 01:13:00 pm
speaking of wacky owners, is it true that all of manusa's gigantic profits last year went to paying interest on the debt the glazers used to buy the team?   :eek:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2008, 01:15:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  You know what I don't get about the ANC - it's not like this was sprung on anybody.  It's always been this way, so why didn't more teams plan accordingly?
 
one of the dozen or so reasons that newcastle is managerless right now. the stories coming out (sir bobby telling big sam not to buy germeni, sam wanting to sell oba and taylor to buy more defensive midfielders and european defenders) are getting worse and worse
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 14, 2008, 01:40:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  speaking of wacky owners, is it true that all of manusa's gigantic profits last year went to paying interest on the debt the glazers used to buy the team?    :eek:  
Yes.  But all the huge profits mean is that they can purchase more players and still service their debt obligations on schedule.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 14, 2008, 01:45:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  speaking of wacky owners, is it true that all of manusa's gigantic profits last year went to paying interest on the debt the glazers used to buy the team?     :eek:  
Well, they have the strongest squad they've had in years....amazing strength in depth, fill their 75,000+ stadium week in week out and sit atop of the toughest league in the world, so they must be doing something right....
 
 Toon could sure do with a rich yank right now huh?
 
 BTW, I met one of the owners recently.....came to test drive a Quattroporte, he gives me a bit of inside scoop now and again.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 14, 2008, 01:50:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
 
 BTW, I met one of the owners recently.....came to test drive a Quattroporte, he gives me a bit of inside scoop now and again.
One of the brother's wife was a law school classmate of mine.  After the purchase I sent her a note and she said she knew that I would be the only person from school who cared anything about this deal.  She was happy to know that I approved of the purchase and wasn't one of the many fans who threatened her husband's life.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 14, 2008, 02:09:00 pm
i am just a little floored that they were so successful last year and dont even pay on the principle. guess that's what happens when you have doodles in charge   ;)    
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
 Toon could sure do with a rich yank right now huh?
not sure i could ask for more than an english owner that plowed half a billion dollars into the club in 8 months
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 14, 2008, 05:49:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i am just a little floored that they were so successful last year and dont even pay on the principle. guess that's what happens when you have doodles in charge    ;)      
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
 Toon could sure do with a rich yank right now huh?
not sure i could ask for more than an english owner that plowed half a billion dollars into the club in 8 months [/b]
1/2 billion could buy you a decent team including stadium.....so you could ask for a lot more actually. In fact, you could probably buy chelski for that come June...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 15, 2008, 01:33:00 pm
looking like its going to be houllier with alan shearer possibly working under him. interesting
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Post by: brennser on January 15, 2008, 01:47:00 pm
shite, I was holding out hope he might stoop low enough to manage ireland
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 15, 2008, 01:57:00 pm
al?    ;)
 
 its not done yet, but both have said they are interested
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 15, 2008, 03:29:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  shite, I was holding out hope he might stoop low enough to manage ireland
Three little words that might prevent a quality manaager from taking that job
 
 Eff Hay Eye
 
  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 16, 2008, 09:43:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  looking like its going to be houllier with alan shearer possibly working under him. interesting
i'm not going to be making anymore posts like this   :o
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Post by: brennser on January 16, 2008, 12:26:00 pm
its Keegan....interesting.....
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 16, 2008, 12:38:00 pm
:eek:
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Post by: brennser on January 16, 2008, 12:48:00 pm
yeah, quite a shock, and although I'm happy to be proven wrong, much like the Gibbs return here in DC (except Keegan never really won anything first time round) it will probably all end in tears again....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 16, 2008, 01:08:00 pm
i'm not shocked so much as...disappointed i guess. i'll support king kev and all, it just seems a tad short sighted in my opinion. i suppose more details could adjust my thoughts
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 17, 2008, 10:39:00 am
Kevin Shaggin Keegan!!! HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHA HA HA HAHAHAHAHA   :D    :D    :D  
 
 I'm sure he'll walk before his contract is up as usual.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 17, 2008, 11:36:00 am
its never boring at sjp
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 17, 2008, 12:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  its never boring at sjp
unless you're the trophy polisher....
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 17, 2008, 01:05:00 pm
all of the oldies need extra work, i'm sure
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 17, 2008, 01:20:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  all of the oldies need extra work, i'm sure
But those were back in the iron age, and I don't think you need to polish iron...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 17, 2008, 01:23:00 pm
hahaha, that was actually a good one. and i thought i've seen every 'you've won fuck all in 39/52 years' zinger
 
 usually those comments on the internet come from supporters of clubs that have never played in the champions league though
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Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2008, 02:27:00 pm
This cracked me up...
 
 The truth the soccerphobes refuse to face (http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/01/17/the_truth_the_soccerphobes_ref.html)
 
 Some Americans regard soccer as the devil's spawn. In reality it is as much a part of their nation as mom's apple pie
 
 Soccer is a slow, boring, low-scoring, meaningless, super-sucky pseudo-sport played exclusively by lesbians, small children and homosexual Nazi psychopaths with bad haircuts. And terrorists. Children who play soccer all grow up to be "asshole incompetents" and "knock-kneed milksops" and "flopping on the ground, writhing-in-pain homos". Soccer is being forced on the American people by the sinister "global elite" secret world government. Soccer, in short, "sucks bat-shit off cave walls". And did we mention that it's gay? (http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/01/17/the_truth_the_soccerphobes_ref.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2008, 02:34:00 pm
Saturday, January 19
 
 9:45am Reading vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 10:00am Fulham vs. Arsenal (FSC)
 12:00pm Newcastle vs. Bolton (FSC)
 3:00pm Birmingham City vs. Chelsea (Set Del)
 4:30pm Tottenham vs. Sunderland (FSC)
 6:00pm Portsmouth vs. Derby County (Set Del)
 
 
 Sunday, January 20
 
 8:30am Wigan vs. Everton
 11:00am Man City vs. West Ham
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2008, 02:49:00 pm
Last Sunday I took my son to get his haircut....we had a 20 minute wait so started to watch the Chargers Colts game that was playing on the bigscreen in the hairdressers. In 20 minutes we saw three plays...yes, three plays in twenty minutes. The majority of the time was spent watching two whole teams trot off the pitch and two whole different teams trot on. Then the referee would have a conference call with all the other 50 refs then proceed to turn on his microphone and explain to the dumb fucks watching what had just happened. What? They still had no idea what just happened even after 35 instant replays?
 
 Call soccer boring, stupid, gay (I admit, the faking injury and diving pisses me off too) whatever.....but if you watch that shit you have no right calling it 'slow'.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on January 18, 2008, 02:57:00 pm
Did I mention I'm gonna be freezing my ass off at the Packers game on Sunday??  :D  
 
 Just thought I'd share.....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  Did I mention I'm gonna be freezing my ass off at the Packers game on Sunday??   :D  
 
 Just thought I'd share.....
May I suggest you take a good book along with you...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2008, 03:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  Did I mention I'm gonna be freezing my ass off at the Packers game on Sunday??   :D  
 
 Just thought I'd share.....
You're a bold man.  Lambeau in Jan.  I can assure you that I don't have the balls for that.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 18, 2008, 03:19:00 pm
i've been to a steelers game in a blizzard before but this weekend is going to be crazy
 
 i like alot of sports, but soccer's lack of action stoppage and commercials is pretty great. its really not worth arguing about
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Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2008, 04:36:00 pm
Hey Brennser....
 
 Shovelers Needed This Evening For Lambeau Field Snow Removal    
 posted 01/17/2008
 
 The Green Bay Packers are requesting assistance with Lambeau Field snow removal this evening, Jan. 17, at 6 p.m.
 
 Ted Eisenreich, the Packers' director of facility operations, said the early portion of the current snowfall is in a slushy condition in the seating bowl, and with overnight lows expected to be in single digits, it is important to remove the wet snow tonight to minimize freezing.
 
 Interested shovelers are asked to report to the Mills Fleet Farm Gate on Lambeau Field's west side, beginning at 6 p.m. this evening and continuing into the night under the lights.
 
 The Packers will provide shovels to all who come to help.
 
 Shovelers need to be at least 15 years old and will receive $8 per hour, with payment to be made immediately upon completion of their work.
 
 This is the sixth such request this season.
 
 Any additional accumulation overnight and possible need for removal will be addressed Friday morning.
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Post by: brennser on January 18, 2008, 04:38:00 pm
awesome
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Post by: tigersscareme on January 18, 2008, 04:54:00 pm
I heard on the radio this morning that that field was heated.
 
 false?
 
 i don't really care either way, other than it's funny that someone would make up that rumour.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 18, 2008, 06:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by tigers scare me:
  I heard on the radio this morning that that field was heated.
 
 false?
 
That is true.  Has been in place for years....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 18, 2008, 07:18:00 pm
Okay back to topic!!!   :mad:  
 
 Test your knowledge of the permed one.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/funny_old_game/7193753.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/funny_old_game/7193753.stm)
 
 I got 5/10
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 19, 2008, 01:32:00 pm
The permed one was introduced to rapturous (sp?) applaus today at SJP with the Smiths playing in the background.....I believe it was This Charming Man but what do you think would be a more appropiate choice?
 
 Stop me (if you you think that you've heard this one before)
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 19, 2008, 03:12:00 pm
And Keegan's second era begins just as the first one ended.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 19, 2008, 04:47:00 pm
i thought a manager needs 3 years to build a team    :p
 
 i got 6/10
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 22, 2008, 11:10:00 am
HEY SMACKIE
 
 how can i watch le arse kill the toon in the fa cup this weekend
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 22, 2008, 12:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i thought a manager needs 3 years to build a team     :p  
 
 i got 6/10
Keegan doesn't stick around at any job long enough to finish a cup of coffee.....
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 22, 2008, 01:07:00 pm
right, 250 games is very short   :roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 22, 2008, 01:14:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  HEY SMACKIE
 
 how can i watch le arse kill the toon in the fa cup this weekend
Pay per view only (or bit torrent download - assume 4-6 hours after completion before you can start watching).
 
 This Weekends PPV ($16 each)
 
 Saturday January 26 at 10am ET - Arsenal vs Newcastle United
 Sunday January 27 at 9am ET - Manchester United vs Tottenham Hotspur
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 22, 2008, 01:24:00 pm
oh, i may have to bit the bullet and actually pay for it. where's a good bt site if i manage to find some restraint?
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Post by: vansmack on January 22, 2008, 01:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  oh, i may have to bit the bullet and actually pay for it. where's a good bt site if i manage to find some restraint?
I search both mininova and isohunt - those are usually the first ones to index the torrent.
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Post by: vansmack on January 22, 2008, 06:14:00 pm
For those of you who recorded the Carling Cup match from today, I won't ruin the ending for you.  But do let me know when we can talk about it.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 22, 2008, 07:24:00 pm
didnt record nor watch
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 22, 2008, 07:26:00 pm
:D
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Post by: Barcelona on January 22, 2008, 09:20:00 pm
What is happening with Spanish coaches in the UK?
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Post by: vansmack on January 23, 2008, 02:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   :D  
I think my favorite part, Mankie, is Bendtner wanting Adebayor carded for head butting him.  They're on the SAME TEAM!!!  Would you see that on any other team, save for maybe Chelsea?
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Post by: vansmack on January 23, 2008, 02:15:00 pm
Great, another American who will be in the League Championship next season...
 
 Eddie Johnson signs with Fulham (http://www.fulhamfc.com/Club/News/NewsArticles/2008/January/JohnsonSigns.aspx)
 
 Following a hearing at a tribunal held in London earlier today, Fulham Football Club is pleased to announce that Eddie Johnson has been granted a work permit. The US international striker has signed a three-and-a-half year deal from The MLS that will see him remain at the Club until the summer of 2011.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 23, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
well, hopefully the wheels will continue to fall off le arse this weekend   :D  
 
 any word on the johnson fee? i heard they were talking around ¬£3-4 million   :eek:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on January 24, 2008, 11:25:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  This cracked me up...
 
 The truth the soccerphobes refuse to face (http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/01/17/the_truth_the_soccerphobes_ref.html)
great article.  there is another popular attitude (less popular today) that is/was very very similar: the french-bashing that went on a few years ago.  just like people who might defend soccer, anyone who had anything positive to say about the french a few years back was seen as un-American.
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Post by: vansmack on January 24, 2008, 06:57:00 pm
Saturday, January 26
 
 FA Cup - 4th Round

 
 10:00am Mansfield Town vs Middlesbrough (FSC)
 10:00am Arsenal vs Newcastle (PPV)
 12:00pm Wigan Athletic vs Chelsea (FSC)
 
 EPL
 
 10:00am Aston Villa vs. Blackburn (Set)
 
 
 Sunday, January 27
 
 FA Cup - 4th Round  

 
 9:00am Man United vs. Tottenham (PPV)
 11:00am Sheffield United vs Manchester City (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on January 28, 2008, 03:03:00 pm
Newcastle avoid tie with Manchester United by virtue of loss to Arsenal. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=502439&cc=5739)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 28, 2008, 03:23:00 pm
that's the only prem vs prem match too. crazy
 
 newcastle looked ok for the first half an hour. second was meh and then the wheels fell off
 
 3 days and change left in the window, doubt we will sign anyone
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Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2008, 02:30:00 pm
I've been travellling for a while and now have the flu.  I picked a good day to be sick - there are a ton of premier league matches on today and tomorrow.  I just can't sit up long enough to give you the schedule, except Newcastle is today and Man U is tomorrow.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 29, 2008, 03:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  that's the only prem vs prem match too. crazy
 
 
Yeah...go figure, it's amazing how that happened huh??
 
   :roll:
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 29, 2008, 03:50:00 pm
ok
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Post by: brennser on January 29, 2008, 03:52:00 pm
wow, it only took newcastle a week to go behind Keegans back to appoint Denis Wise!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 29, 2008, 03:56:00 pm
they were always going to bring someone in that role, i dont think that wise is a manager in waiting. keegan wanted to talk to shearer of all people, who would have been much more of an 'over the shoulder' presence
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on January 29, 2008, 04:05:00 pm
Keegan and Wise!!!!
 
 Mini me gets a Minimini me
 
  <img src="http://www.danheuser.com/images/polls/2003/dec/mini-me.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Post by: godsshoeshine on January 30, 2008, 09:42:00 am
ok, can we not play any more games at the emirates? kthx
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Post by: brennser on January 30, 2008, 11:26:00 pm
Scum are 7th!!!! 7th!!! This is fucking hilarious watching their little meltdown and their disastrous US takeover - couldn't happen to a nicer team or their fans
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on January 31, 2008, 01:39:00 pm
if they lose rafa and arent in the champions league next year, will they have any players left
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2008, 01:25:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  Scum are 7th!!!! 7th!!!
How about 17 points adrift midway through the season?  That's what amazes me.
 
  <img src="http://msn.foxsports.com/id/7746108_18_1.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2008, 01:31:00 pm
Saturday, Feb 2
 
 7:30am Manchester City vs. Arsenal (Set)
 9:30am Blackburn vs. Everton (Set Xtra)
 10:00am Portsmouth vs. Chelsea (FSC)
 10:00am Tottenham vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 12:00pm Liverpool vs. Sunderland (FSC)
 4:30pm Wigan vs. West Ham (FSC)  
 6:00pm Blackburn vs. Everton (Set Del)
 
 
 Sunday
 
 8:30am Newcastle Utd vs. Middlesbrough (Set)
 11:00am Fulham vs. Aston Villa (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 01, 2008, 01:46:00 pm
some good matches this weekend. too bad liverpool is playing scumderland, i cant root for both to lose   :(
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 06, 2008, 10:38:00 am
The Flowers Of Manchester
 
 One cold and bitter Thursday in Munich, Germany,
 Eight great football stalwarts conceded victory.
 Eight men will never play again, who met disaster there,
 The flowers of English football, the flowers of Manchester.
 
 The Busby Babes were flying home, returning from Belgrade,
 This great United family all masters of their trade.
 The pilot of the aircraft, the skipper Captain Thain,
 Three times tried to take off and twice turned back again.
 
 The third time down the runway disaster followed close,
 There was slush upon that runway and the aircraft never rose.
 It ploughed into the marshy ground, it broke, it overturned.
 And eight of that team were killed when the blazing wreckage burned.
 
 Roger Byrne and Tommy Taylor, who were capped for England's side,
 And Ireland's Liam Whelan and England's Geoff Bent died.
 Mark Jones and Eddie Coleman and David Pegg also,
 They all lost their lives as it ploughed on through the snow.
 
 Big Duncan he went too, with an injury to his brain,
 And Ireland's brave Jack Blanchflower will never play again.
 The great Matt Busby lay there, the father of this team,
 Three long months passed by before he saw his team again.
 
 The trainer, coach and secretary and three members of the crew,
 Also eight sporting journalists who with United flew,
 And one of them was Big Swifty who we will ne'er forget,
 The finest English 'keeper that ever graced a net.
 
 England's finest football team it's record truly great,
 It's proud success mocked by this cruel turn of fate.
 Eight men will never play again who met disaster there,
 The flowers of English football, the flowers of Manchester.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 08, 2008, 07:22:00 pm
Saturday, February 9
 
 7:30am Aston Villa vs. Newcastle (Set)
 9:45am Sunderland vs. Wigan (Set)
 10:00am Everton vs. Reading (FSC)
 12:00pm Derby vs. Tottenham (FSC)
 12:15pm West Ham vs. Birmingham (Set)
 4:30pm Bolton vs. Portsmouth (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, February 10
 
 8:30am Manchester Utd vs. Manchester City (Set)
 11:00am Chelsea vs. Liverpool (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 09, 2008, 02:31:00 pm
I see Keegan hasn't changed his managerial tactics...just outscore your opponent and don't worry about defence. The only problem with Toon is they can't score any goals!!!!!
 
   :D  
 
 I'll be surprised if he sees out the season.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 09, 2008, 07:40:00 pm
haha...isnt outscoring your opponent the basic way you win games
 
 the bottom line is the players arent good enough
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2008, 12:33:00 pm
geez if newcastle's result this weekend is enough for kev to quit, id hate to see what fergie does after the manc derby   :eek:
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Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2008, 01:40:00 pm
I'm hearing rumors of England vs. USA at Wembley in late May.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2008, 01:49:00 pm
i wonder how many left side mids the u.s. will go through before then. dropping like flies
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Post by: brennser on February 11, 2008, 02:00:00 pm
so famous last words and I completely expect the FAI to fuck this up in their own inimitable style BUT it looks like Giovanni Trappatoni may be the next Ireland manager
 
 seems like a decent hire given all the dead wood and retreads that have been bandied around for the last 3 months
 
 and judging by this clip (rough although poor translation included) he could be just whats needed for those pampered, lazy, feckless fuckers who currently bring very little honour to the Irish shirt....
 
 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bqp64q7kHmw (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bqp64q7kHmw)
 
 of course, the downside is after one or two games of seeing John O'Shea he may well have a heart attack!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 11, 2008, 02:02:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  I'm hearing rumors of England vs. USA at Wembley in late May.
Is this game to prepare for the Euro 2008?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2008, 02:06:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i wonder how many left side mids the u.s. will go through before then. dropping like flies
I still think it's Beasley's job to lose, and he has little to worry about if Convey continues to play like that...
 
 I really thought the outside fullbacks, especially Corrales, were the worst part of that match.  And the central mid showed a lot of promise, but not until Feilhaber replaces the coaches son.  He has the potential to be one of the best American footballer's ever.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2008, 02:08:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Is this game to prepare for the Euro 2008?
I resisted the joke, but I'm glad that you did not.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2008, 02:17:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i wonder how many left side mids the u.s. will go through before then. dropping like flies
I still think it's Beasley's job to lose, and he has little to worry about if Convey continues to play like that...
 
 I really thought the outside fullbacks, especially Corrales, were the worst part of that match.  And the central mid showed a lot of promise, but not until Feilhaber replaces the coaches son.  He has the potential to be one of the best American footballer's ever. [/b]
convey had to stay in the u.s. to get some sort of injection. kid gets hurt so often. if you look at the u.s. roster, the fullbacks have like 10 caps between them or something crazy.
 
 jozy has got to move to europe next year. right?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 11, 2008, 02:27:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  haha...isnt outscoring your opponent the basic way you win games
 
 
Good point, but you know what I meant. Just rack up the goals and hope they don't score as many at the other end.
 
 As for the England v USA match...how can it be a warm up for Euro 2008???? America isn't in Europe, silly.
 
 And just because England get an Italian coach Ireland have to get one as well...what's that all about?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 11, 2008, 03:09:00 pm
Just a few weeks prior to the Euro 2008, I could not resist it with all the British fans in the board.
 
 However, I am still far more interested in the Champions League than in the Euro.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 11, 2008, 03:41:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Just a few weeks prior to the Euro 2008, I could not resist it with all the British fans in the board.
 
 However, I am still far more interested in the Champions League than in the Euro.
Who will all the other fans and media hate with a passion now England aren't in it? It won't be the same without England.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 11, 2008, 03:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Just a few weeks prior to the Euro 2008, I could not resist it with all the British fans in the board.
 
 However, I am still far more interested in the Champions League than in the Euro.
Who will all the other fans and media hate with a passion now England aren't in it? It won't be the same without England. [/b]
Italy. I tend to dislike them a lot when it comes to national team.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 11, 2008, 04:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Just a few weeks prior to the Euro 2008, I could not resist it with all the British fans in the board.
 
 However, I am still far more interested in the Champions League than in the Euro.
Who will all the other fans and media hate with a passion now England aren't in it? It won't be the same without England. [/b]
spain
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 11, 2008, 05:15:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Who will all the other fans and media hate with a passion now England aren't in it?  
Cristiano Ronaldo.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 12, 2008, 11:33:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Who will all the other fans and media hate with a passion now England aren't in it?  
Cristiano Ronaldo. [/b]
Germany and/or Portugal
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 12, 2008, 02:43:00 pm
are you guys ready to talk about last sunday yet?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 12, 2008, 02:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  are you guys ready to talk about last sunday yet?
No.  Try me again tomorrow.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 12, 2008, 06:40:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  are you guys ready to talk about last sunday yet?
NO!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 11:13:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  are you guys ready to talk about last sunday yet?
yet?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 13, 2008, 12:32:00 pm
Fuck off!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 12:45:00 pm
hahaha
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 13, 2008, 12:50:00 pm
Anyway....how's that Keven Keegan bloke working out for you?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 12:55:00 pm
i think he should have bought in the transfer window, but really if two managers cant get this group of players to stay up, i dont who could. like i said a month or so back, the worst part of the fat man was the players he bought, and then wanting to sell oba and taylor to buy diarra and kevin nolan was just crazy. in summary, if we go down then kev will share the blame, but if we stay up then its a success, because i dont think sam would have been able to pull that off
 
 how about that manchester derby?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 13, 2008, 01:13:00 pm
Let's bet. In England 5 points between Arsenal and Manchester United with 12 games left.
 
 In Italy, 8 points between Inter and Roma with 16 games left.
 
 In Spain, 8 points between Madrid and Barcelona with 15 games left.
 
 Arsenal 63
 Manchester United 58
 Chelsea 55
 
 Inter Milan 56
 AS Roma 48
 
 Real Madrid 56
 Barcelona 48
 
 I will go with Arsenal (not sure at all, I think it will depend on how far both Arsenal and Man. Utd get in the Champions League), Inter and Barcelona.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 01:21:00 pm
italy is over
 
 i dont know much about spain at this point, to be honest
 
 in england, arsenal has the lead, man u has dropped 5 of 6 points (although we arent talking about it yet). i think chelsea needed all three against liverpool this past weekend to climb back into it, but were flat at home. gotta go with with arsenal
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 13, 2008, 01:22:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  are you guys ready to talk about last sunday yet?
yet? [/b]
There's one unifying theme in all 4 of United's EPL losses this season: no Wayne Rooney.  And it's not like he's having a great goal scoring season either - it's just the little things he does that make the difference.
 
 And I'm not one to question Sir Alex, but for some reason he has paired up his midfield Nani/ Anderson and Carrick/Hargreaves.  Add to that a not match fit Scholes and that left the youth fairly exposed as we saw on Sunday.  A nice mixture of youth and experience would be preferred by this fan.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 01:29:00 pm
what about wes brown? looked to me like he had little answer for petrov
 
 i dislike shitty even more than mansusa, but man is petrov fun to watch
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 13, 2008, 01:43:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  what about wes brown? looked to me like he had little answer for petrov
 
 i dislike shitty even more than mansusa, but man is petrov fun to watch
Wasn't Toon trying to get Brown?   :p  
 
 Poor Wes, that would be like when Michael Jordan signed up for the Wizards.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 01:45:00 pm
that was a fat sam move. he'd fit in great with the rest of our over the hill has-beens
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 13, 2008, 03:02:00 pm
This one's going to cost me another $16.
 
 FA CUP - 5th ROUND
 
 Saturday, Feb 16
 
 10:00am Liverpool vs Barnsley (FSC)  
 12:00pm Chelsea vs Huddersfield (FSC)
 12:00pm Manchester United vs Aresnal (PPV)
 
 Sunday, Feb 17
 
 9:00am Sheffield United vs Middlesbrough (PPV)
 11:00am Preston North End vs Portsmouth (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 13, 2008, 03:31:00 pm
that's the best one too    :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 16, 2008, 01:07:00 pm
HAHA HAHAHAHAHA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH FUCKING HAHAHAHAHAHA OOOOOOHHHHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH SOMEONE SLAP ME PLEASE, HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOH
 
 Regardless of what happens between United and Arsenal, today is a great day!!!
 
 My bias is obviously for United, but in reality there's very little between the two sides. I'd give the edge to United because of home field advantage and we had 'em at the camel dome until the last kick of the game.
 
 But tonight...I'm a BARNSLEY fan.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on February 16, 2008, 03:23:00 pm
yeah perfect day and turns out there were 4 goals between our boys and the arse!!!
 
 Vive la rafalution, eh?
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  HAHA HAHAHAHAHA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH FUCKING HAHAHAHAHAHA OOOOOOHHHHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH SOMEONE SLAP ME PLEASE, HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOH
 
 Regardless of what happens between United and Arsenal, today is a great day!!!
 
 My bias is obviously for United, but in reality there's very little between the two sides. I'd give the edge to United because of home field advantage and we had 'em at the camel dome until the last kick of the game.
 
 But tonight...I'm a BARNSLEY fan.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 16, 2008, 03:58:00 pm
Fuck, I'm gonna smile all weekend!  
 
 Who the hell are you and what did you do with the REAL Darren Fletcher?!!??!
 
 4 NIL 4 NIL 4 NIL 4 NIL, we've got 4, you've got nil!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 16, 2008, 06:26:00 pm
I'd go home and give the missus one but she's not talking to me...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 17, 2008, 03:22:00 pm
more like lolerpool
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 18, 2008, 03:36:00 pm
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE - FIRST KNOCKOUT ROUND
 
 Tuesday, February 19

 
 2:00pm Olympiacos vs. Chelsea (Set - 2:45 KO)
 2:30pm Liverpool vs. Inter Milan (ESPN2)
 5:00pm Roma vs. Real Madrid (ESPN Classic)
 6:00pm Roma vs. Real Madrid (Set Del)
 
 Wednesday, February 20
 
 11:00am FC Schalke vs. FC Porto (Set - 1st Air)
 1:00pm Lyon vs. Manchester Utd (Set - KO 2:45pm)
 2:30pm Arsenal vs. AC Milan (ESPN2)
 5:00pm Celtic vs. Barcelona (ESPN Classic)
 6:00pm Fenerbache vs. Sevilla (Set Del)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 18, 2008, 03:46:00 pm
if i had more than 2 sick days a year, i'd totally use one tomorrow
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 18, 2008, 03:50:00 pm
Forza Roma!!
 
 I hope we do well in Glasgow on Wednesday.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 18, 2008, 03:52:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  if i had more than 2 sick days a year, i'd totally use one tomorrow
Being on the east coast, can't you just duck out for the afternoon?  
 
 I remember shceduling a lot of 3 O'clock meetings at the Lucky Bar on Champions league Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
 
 It's a little tougher for me now - that's why I bought a slingbox.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 18, 2008, 04:07:00 pm
i'll end up just dvring a couple each day. tv is such a crap fest that i usually watch dudes yell about soccer on tuesday nights anyway
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 19, 2008, 10:41:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Forza Roma!!
 
 I hope we do well in Glasgow on Wednesday.
If you don't you should be ashamed of yourselves.....I used to play in the Scottish Premier League, or was it the Montgomery County over 30's leage????
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 19, 2008, 02:27:00 pm
If, like me you're insane, Derek Rae just said on WorldSoccerDaily that on the ESPN channels, they will not be saying the other match scores out loud or showing them in popup boxes except at half time.  Setanta will be showing the other scores and discussing them.
 
 So I recommend watching the ESPN2 then Classic matches before the Setanta matches.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 19, 2008, 02:46:00 pm
setanta is like crack. i hate it so much but i'm totally addicted. i mean that maureen puppet isnt even funny
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on February 19, 2008, 08:24:00 pm
god I hate Liverpool
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Post by: Barcelona on February 19, 2008, 09:58:00 pm
I dislike the two teams in Milan and Chelsea more than Liverpool (not to mention the right-wingers in Madrid). Actually, I have lots of respect for Liverpool, not sure what it is, maybe the way they won 3 years ago against Milan or maybe the fact that they don't have any big star in the team, except for Gerrard. This is the player I would want in Barcelona, he is great, what about his goal tonight.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 19, 2008, 11:21:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  god I hate Liverpool
"
 
 more than any team in england except scumderland
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 20, 2008, 01:12:00 pm
Liverpool were shit, lucky to win despite playing with a man advantage at home for nearly an hour.  I'm not one to defend an Eye-Talian, but Matarassi's sending off was dubious at best.  Of course, he's Italian so he probably deserved it for something else he's done in the past anyway.
 
 Gerrard's goal was a mistake that found the back of the net.  Nothing more.
 
 Chelsea looked like crap and I've seen better satellite feeds on a video game than what I saw on ESPN Classic.  Did anybody watch the Setanta feed - was it any better?
 
 Real had an opportunity to put Roma away early, but failed and really paid the price.  Credit to Roma for not quitting after giving up the first goal and nearly the second and third.
 
 All in all a bit of a disappointment for a day I was really looking forward to.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 20, 2008, 01:20:00 pm
how bad were ibrahimovic and viera? viera's been hurt, but jeez
 
 i kind of thought that the first card was a bit of a dive on torres's part
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on February 20, 2008, 10:39:00 pm
quite happy for today¬īs game in Glasgow. we may be recovering Ronaldinho, Henry, Messi and Deco, and Etoo is back from the Africa cup. These players along with Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol and the rest can fight for the Champions League and the spanish league, difficult but not impossible.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 21, 2008, 10:59:00 am
All I can say is I'd rather tie 1-1 away than 0-0 at home   :p  
 
 Also, what am I missing with Gerrard? I find him totally average. Scum do quite well with a team of average players and Gerrard is just one of them, as it shows only too well when he's on a squad of great players like England. (England's underachievement accepted BTW, but they do still have great players)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 21, 2008, 12:37:00 pm
when i watch liverpool play well, they have 10 guys doing exactly what the system tells them to do and stevie g freelancing. the way he plays and the what he says in the press, he does not believe in the system and he doesnt believe in rafa. now, if rafa can grab 4th and keep his job, his best move would be to sell gerrard. he needs to buy the players to compete with arse, manusa and chelski in the league and gerrard would get them a boatload of cash. of course you even mention that to a liverpool supporter and they get all    :eek:   on you, so i dont know if he could get away with it
 
 of course they could finish fifth, fire rafa, lose a bunch of the players that love him. i know they have some financial issues, maybe smackie can shed a little more light on that though
 
 i guess what i'm trying to say is i pretty much agree with mankie
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 22, 2008, 05:40:00 pm
Saturday, February 23
 
 7:30am Birmingham City vs. Arsenal (Set)
 9:45am Liverpool vs. Middlesbrough (Set)
 10:00am Fulham vs. West Ham (FSC)
 12:00pm Newcastle vs. Manchester United (FSC)
 12:15pm Portsmouth vs. Sunderland (Set Del)
 4:30pm Wigan vs. Derby (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, February 24
 
 7:30am Reading vs. Aston Villa (Set)
 9:30am Carling Cup - Final: Tottenham vs. Chelsea (Set)
 11:00am Blackburn vs. Bolton (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 22, 2008, 06:00:00 pm
Shoeshine, one single player is never bigger than the whole....Beckham, Stam and Nistlerooy can attest to that. United fans couldn't believe Fergie dumped any of them but we got over it and moved on. (even though I still think he was wrong to get rid of Becks) Admittedly scousers aren't exactly blessed with intelligence, so probably couldn't get past the fact Rafa got rid of one of their own, but anyone with a brain can see what a great manager he is by what he's achieved with the players he'd got.
 
 Put it this way...if they sack Rafa and O'Neill gets the job, Villa should jump all over Rafa and they'd be getting the better deal in my opinion. My 80 year old mother could win the SPL with Celtic for crying out loud.
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Post by: brennser on February 23, 2008, 03:55:00 pm
that was almost too easy - Newcastle have big big problems
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Post by: godsshoeshine on February 24, 2008, 11:00:00 am
guess kev improved newcastle 2 goals vs fat sam. only 5 to go
 
 guess that wasnt technically on sam, but i'm kidding anyway
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on February 24, 2008, 02:07:00 pm
I guess Keegans tactics haven't changed over the years....but you think he might have learned by now that you do actually need a defensive game plan!!!
 
 Congrats to Spurs....chelski won't win shit this season, and hopefully the rich russian will get board and they'll be playing Leeds United by 2010. If Leeds are still around in 2010 that is.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 24, 2008, 02:45:00 pm
i think its the players more than the tactics. no passing from the central mids, sub par passing from the mids, attackers that cant make plays, shambolic defenders, and ZOGS IS NOT A LEFT BACK
 
 but then again, apparently no one else on the team is either. sam set us back even further than we were. seems like nearly everyone below newcastle lost this weekend, though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 28, 2008, 06:35:00 pm
SATURDAY MARCH 1
 
 9:30am Fulham vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 9:30am West Ham vs. Chelsea (Set Xtra)
 10:00am Arsenal  vs .  Aston Villa (FSC)  
 12:00pm Manchester City  vs. Wigan  (FSC)
 2:45pm West Ham vs. Chelsea (SDC)
 4:30pm Newcastle  vs. Blackburn (FSC)  
 6:00pm Birmingham City vs. Tottenham (SDC)
 7:45pm Derby County vs. Sunderland (SDC)
 
 SUNDAY, MARCH 2
 
 7:30am Bolton vs. Liverpool (KO 8:30am - SET)
 11:00am Everton  vs. Portsmouth (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 28, 2008, 09:04:00 pm
sdc = setanta?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 28, 2008, 09:17:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  sdc = setanta?
Setanta Delayed (I'm not sure what the C stands for, communication, channel?) but it simply means that the match is not a live Setanta broadcast.
 
 And of course Set Xtra means channel 670 on DirecTV.  It's not available on Cable or Dish, just ITVN, Broadband and DirecTV.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on February 29, 2008, 10:35:00 am
interesting, never saw it called that before. of course setanta will spoil all three during the man u match   :roll:  
 
 my goal for saturday is not to throw up in my mouth. could be the first time for a league game in 2008
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on February 29, 2008, 06:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  interesting, never saw it called that before.
When I get the info off of Setanta's site, I usually change it to (Set Del).  I just got lazy this week.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 02, 2008, 10:21:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  my goal for saturday is not to throw up in my mouth. could be the first time for a league game in 2008
unsuccessful attempt
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 03, 2008, 11:26:00 am
I'm just wondering what the time added on to allow arse'nil to score limit is? 10? 15 minutes? What do you think?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 03, 2008, 11:34:00 am
i didnt think it was that bad
 
 villa lived so dangerously on those corners and crosses all day. how many balls did randy moss head over the crossbar?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 03, 2008, 02:41:00 pm
It was 3 minutes and they scored at 92:23.  And there was a yellow issued to a Villa player for time wasting during stoppage time as well.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 03, 2008, 02:50:00 pm
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: First Knockout Stage - Second Leg
 
 Tuesday, March 4

 
 2:45pm Man Utd vs. Lyon (Set)
 2:45pm AC Milan vs. Arsenal (ESPN2)
 6:00pm Seville vs. Fenerbahce (SDC)
 
 The Barca/Celtic match is only on ESPN Deportes and ESPN 360.
 
 Wednesday, March 5
 
 2:00pm Real Madrid vs. AS Roma (Set)
 2:45pm Chelsea vs. Olympiacos (ESPN2)
 11:00pm FC Schalke vs. Porto (SDC)
 
 Liverpool vs. Inter is to be played on 3/11.
 
 Don't forget to extrend your DVRs as well - these matches cannot end in a tie on the aggregate.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 03, 2008, 03:21:00 pm
thanks, i almost forgot these were on. i got caught up in liverpool as the toon face them on saturday. pool has hammers on wednesday, toon saturday and inter next tuesday. rafa the rotator has gotta sit torres for that middle game against the weakest opponent. right? right??
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 03, 2008, 03:52:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  pool has hammers on wednesday,
Which reminds me:
 
 Wednesday, March 5
 
 6:00pm Liverpool vs. West Ham (SDC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 03, 2008, 03:55:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   rafa the rotator has gotta sit torres for that middle game against the weakest opponent. right? right??
Spoken like the true fan of a team in a relegation battle...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 03, 2008, 05:08:00 pm
jus sayin
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 03, 2008, 05:57:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  jus sayin
I think scum could put clumsy Kewell up front as a loan striker and they'd still give the toon defense major headaches..
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 03, 2008, 08:00:00 pm
defense looked ok on saturday
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 03, 2008, 11:18:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  The Barca/Celtic match is only on ESPN Deportes and ESPN 360.
 
Actually, my DVR says this match will be on ESPN Classic at 5:00.  ESPN's web page didn't list the match, but I trust my DVR.
 
 Tuesday, March 4
 
 5:00 Barcelona vs. Celtic (ESPN Classic)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 04, 2008, 06:05:00 pm
...and marching on to the quarters!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on March 05, 2008, 08:32:00 am
What a performance by Arsenal, and especially by Cesc Fabregas. Such a young team and so much better than Manchester United, Fenerbache, or Barcelona, the other three teams that qualified to the last eight last night.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 05, 2008, 02:07:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  What a performance by Arsenal, and especially by Cesc Fabregas. Such a young team and so much better than Manchester United, Fenerbache, or Barcelona, the other three teams that qualified to the last eight last night.
Arsenal were by far the best team last night, and that's not easy for me to say. They made AC Milan look old. But that was only one night.  I recall a night last year where United were practiaclly handed the trophy after shredding Roma and we all know how that turned out.
 
 The Fenerbahce match was very exciting as well, however, that was the one match I didn't extend my DVR (despite my own warnings) so I didn't see the PKs.  Nonetheless, in regulation time, I was very entertained.
 
 And, lest I forget, Barca's first goal was the goal of the tournament thus far.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 05, 2008, 02:27:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
   Such a young team and so much better than Manchester United,
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1104352/manchester_united_4_arsenal_0_fa_cup_round_6/ (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1104352/manchester_united_4_arsenal_0_fa_cup_round_6/)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 05, 2008, 02:31:00 pm
uh, i read it as the arse were better last night
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Post by: Barcelona on March 06, 2008, 11:56:00 am
And Real Madrid is out, great!!! although not perfect week since Messi is out for another six weeks.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 06, 2008, 06:23:00 pm
Saturday, March 8
 
 7:45am FA Cup: Man United vs. Portsmouth (PPV - $16)
 9:45am Liverpool vs. Newcastle Utd (Set)
 10:00am Blackburn vs. Fulham (FSC)
 12:30pm FA Cup: Barnsley vs. Chelsea (FSC)  
 2:30pm Reading vs. Manchester City (SDC)
 4:30pm Reading vs. Manchester City (FSC)
 
 Why one of them won't pick up Blackburn/Fulham is beyond me.
 
   
 Sunday, March 9
 
 10:00am FA Cup: Middlesbrough vs. Cardiff City (PPV - $16)
 11:00am Tottenham vs. West Ham (Set)
 12:00pm Wigan vs. Arsenal (FSC)  
 1:00pm Sunderland vs. Everton (SDC)
 5:30pm FA Cup: Bristol Rovers vs. West Bromwich  Albion (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 08, 2008, 02:36:00 pm
glad the prem is on in the morning. i dont know that my liver could take this season
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2008, 02:46:00 pm
That was disapointing, although if we're not going to win one of the three trophies up for grabs it would be the that one.
 
 Did anyone see the game? Was the ref as biased towards Pompey as I'm reading on the BBC website? Should it have been a penalty for United early on in the first half?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 08, 2008, 04:32:00 pm
Hmmmmmm...Barnsley 1 - 0 Chelski
 
 Not such a bad day after all....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 09, 2008, 01:55:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Brain Walrus:
  Did anyone see the game? Was the ref as biased towards Pompey as I'm reading on the BBC website? Should it have been a penalty for United early on in the first half?
Of course I watched it.  Pompey had no business winning that match.  United were the far better team, just simply couldn't score (with a tremendous amount of good fortune for Pompey).  After about 20 minutes, the announcer said "with all their good fortune throughout this tourney, you'd have to think their name is already etched on the cup" and they just enjoying good fortune.    
 
 Yes, it absolutely should have been a penalty in the first half for Ronaldo. And while Kuszczak was cetainly guilty of a penalty, the red card was harsh as there were two defenders behind the keeper (but it was the keeper who fouled which almost always results in a red card).
 
 And in case you missed it, Cardiff knocked of Boro today.
 
 And of course, Arsenal just drew with Wigan.  So what started off as a rough weekend has ended fairly nicely.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 10, 2008, 10:10:00 am
You're forgetting Englad got beat by Scotland in the 6 nations so I've been sick to my stomach all weekend. That one hurts...really hurts.
 
 But you're right. Wigan did us a favor and that sentimental French team who happens to train in London will probably have a hard time recovering from a result like that, and their captain is probably still sat on the pitch sucking his thumb...so advantage United in the Premiership..
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Post by: vansmack on March 10, 2008, 07:32:00 pm
Sorry Mank - rugby has not entered my atmosphere.
 
 Tuesday, March 11
 
 12:30pm Champion's League: Inter Milan vs. Liverpool
 
 Wednesday, March 12
 
 3:30pm UEFA Cup - Everton vs. Fiorentina (FSC)  
 4:00pm Chelsea vs. Derby County (Set)
 6:00pm Aston Villa v. Middlesbrough (FSC)  
 6:30pm Portsmouth vs. Birmingham City (Set)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 11, 2008, 09:15:00 am
i watch rugby every once in a while. i like munster and ireland
 
 but i kind of have no idea whats going on
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 11, 2008, 10:42:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i watch rugby every once in a while. i like munster and ireland
 
 but i kind of have no idea whats going on
Munster would be my club team because we lived in the province of Munster.....although I have a mate who's on the coaching staff of the Saracens.
 
 It's really quite simple, all metres gained must be run so you can only pass backwards, when you see them kick it up field it's usually because they're making no ground so 'punting' it to  use an American term. The scrum just gets the game going again after some sort of infraction. The line out is just when the ball has gone out of bounds to the side.......if you take the time to learn the rules you'll probably enjoy it more than football.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 11, 2008, 10:58:00 am
munster is where my father's family came from back during the potato famine
 
 how does the scoring work? i guess its makes more sense now that i read your post. as opposed to just turning on the tv
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 11, 2008, 12:01:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  munster is where my father's family came from back during the potato famine
 
 how does the scoring work? i guess its makes more sense now that i read your post. as opposed to just turning on the tv
A try (touchdown) is 5 points
 conversion (extra point) 2 points
 drop goal, which is when it is kicked between the posts during open play is 3 points.
 A penalty (field goal) is 3 points
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 11, 2008, 12:10:00 pm
i'll give it another try
 
 i was thinking of switching to serie a if newcastle gets relegated, but maybe i'll just watch rugby   :p
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 11, 2008, 03:36:00 pm
You could also watch the Championship if Newcastle go down. A lot of Brits are switching to the Championship as their league of choice because you can, well, watch British players playing the game, and there's a lot less diving and feigning injury etc. and evidently the ref'ing is a much higher quality.
 
 They featured games on Friday nights when I was back in Ireland, then on Sundays they had a 'match of the day' for just the championship, and I have to say it was refreshing to see. There's no eye-popping displays of individual skills but it's quality football nonetheless.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 11, 2008, 03:44:00 pm
i think setanta in the states only has games a couple times a month from the fizzy pop. all of these switches would be until newcastle made it back up, because i just couldnt deal with rooting for arsenal or something for 9 months
 
 speaking of the toon, at least a point from brum on monday is needed. bolton has the worst of the fixtures going forward so we need to just get points where we can. i think even 8 would do it. we just cant flipping score
 
 would munster bring less tears? roma would be my serie a team (closest to my maternal side's roots). at least they make the champions league    :(
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 11, 2008, 04:05:00 pm
The last year we spent in Cork Munster won the Heineken trophy, which is a European contest so pretty darn good. I think the following season they struggled, like most franchises in any sport seem to do after a great season. I'm not sure how they're doing this season to be honest as it's hard to keep track.
 
 If you follow Munster you will have to learn to dislike Leinster, which is the province Dublin is in. There's not really 'hate' in rugby like there is in football because there's too much respect between teams. It's a healthy rivalry in rugby and a great atmosphere drinking in the pubs with your rival fans and singing along together before the game, then back in the pub and repeat the process after the game regardless of the result.
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Post by: brennser on March 11, 2008, 04:37:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  would munster bring less tears? roma would be my serie a team (closest to my maternal side's roots). at least they make the champions league     :(  
Munster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munster_Rugby) are good, certainly the most successful Irish province of the last 30 years....won the European Cup, beat the All Blacks in 77 etc etc....
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 11, 2008, 05:18:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
     
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  would munster bring less tears? roma would be my serie a team (closest to my maternal side's roots). at least they make the champions league        :)   They even wrote a play about it, and a book!!
 
   <img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512KK4243FL._SS500_.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 13, 2008, 12:58:00 pm
so bolton isnt even going to try to advance in the uefa cup?
 http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=516175&cc=5901 (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=516175&cc=5901)
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Post by: vansmack on March 14, 2008, 12:46:00 pm
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW
 
 Quarter-finals
 
 Tuesday, April 1  
 
 AS Roma v Manchester United
 Schalke 04 v Barcelona
 
 Wednesday, April 2  
 
 Arsenal v Liverpool
 Fenerbahce v Chelsea
 
 
 Tuesday, April 8  
 
 Liverpool v Arsenal  
 Chelsea v Fenerbahce
 
 
 Wednesday, April 9  
 
 Manchester United v AS Roma  
 Barcelona v Schalke 04
 
 
 Semi-Finals:
 
 Ties to be played April 22 or 23 and 29 or 30  
 
 Arsenal/Liverpool v Fenerbahce/Chelsea
 Schalke/Barcelona v Roma/Man Utd
 
 
 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL
 
 Will be played in Moscow, Russia, on May 21, 2008.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 14, 2008, 01:01:00 pm
i saw that. i figured you manusa supporters would be going bonkers
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Post by: vansmack on March 14, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
SATURDAY MARCH 15
 
 11:00am Derby County vs. Manchester Utd (SET)
 11:00am Liverpool vs Reading (FSC)  
 1:00am Arsenal vs Middlesbrough (FSC)
 1:15pm Sunderland vs. Chelsea (SET)
 3:00pm West Ham vs. Blackburn (SET)
 11:00pm Portsmouth vs Aston Villa (FSC)
 
 SUNDAY MARCH 16
   
 9:30am Fulham vs. Everton (SET)
 12:00pm Manchester City vs Tottenham  (FSC)  
 11:00pm Wigan vs. Bolton (Set)
 
 MONDAY MARCH 17
 
 4:00pm Birmingham City vs. Newcastle Utd (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 14, 2008, 03:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i saw that. i figured you manusa supporters would be going bonkers
Why? We got the toughest draw yet again...chelski get the easy one...yet again!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 14, 2008, 03:24:00 pm
bonkers given the recent history between your lot and the roma ultras. i figured youd be either excited to stick it to them or angry at the prospect of more violence
 
 id say barca or arse would be a tougher draw, though
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 14, 2008, 03:33:00 pm
Oh I'm sure the Italian polizia will beat the shit out of the United fans just for the hell of it, then the media report about the English soccer hooligans. You know, the usual stuff.
 
 As for the Roma Ultra's...nothing will be mentioned about them as per.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 14, 2008, 03:42:00 pm
No comment.  I once saw a draw where United got Porto and I was very excited.  We all know how that turned out.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 14, 2008, 03:55:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  No comment.  I once saw a draw where United got Porto and I was very excited.  We all know how that turned out.
Yeah....I remember that one, it was probably the weakest squad United have had in a long time though.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 15, 2008, 11:43:00 am
i just realized i have to root for el ameripool today (as i type its 1-1). good thing there will be beer later
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Post by: vansmack on March 15, 2008, 03:29:00 pm
Back where we belong.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 15, 2008, 04:01:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Back where we belong.
:D  
 
 Indeed!!!
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 10:48:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i just realized i have to root for el ameripool today (as i type its 1-1). good thing there will be beer later
FYI...this American reference has become old....it might do toon a world of good to get a rich footie-ignorant yank onboard. It hasn't done United any harm (see premiership table and champions league quarter final draw) or Liverpool (see premiership table and champions league quarter final draw) for evidence of that.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 11:02:00 am
we have a rich footy-ignorant ENGLISH owner, and its done fuckall. i'm not sure what being american will do, except increase our debt. lerner actually knows a thing or two, but comparing us to el ameripool or manusa is kind of silly
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 11:51:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  we have a rich footy-ignorant ENGLISH owner, and its done fuckall. i'm not sure what being american will do, except increase our debt. lerner actually knows a thing or two, but comparing us to el ameripool or manusa is kind of silly
Why is it 'silly'? You all consider yourselves a 'big club' not unlike chelski, when in reality you're just a barely average club. Admittedlyl St. James Park is less embarrassing than Stamford Bridge...but toon fans really are living in la-la land to think theyr'e one of the big clubs. I'd say Sunderland are bigger than toon. Certainly more organized as far as building the franchise.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 12:03:00 pm
the 'big club' debate is so vague. for the toon (and several other clubs) you can twist around the definition until you arrive at the conclusion you want. no i dont think we are a big club, and really only see three: man u, arsenal and liverpool
 
 liverpool and manchester united were both bought with good to great players and top shelf managers. toon was bought with mediocre players and a shite manager. that's why its silly. of course those americans dont realize how good rafa is, and they nearly sacked him a couple months back
 
 as far as scumderland go, they are a total sleeping giant, and if they can stay up for two or three years straight watch out. keano seems to be a good motivator, but i think his transfer judgement is limited to former man u/celtic players and irish and scot youngsters.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 12:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  keano seems to be a good motivator, but i think his transfer judgement is limited to former man u/celtic players and irish and scot youngsters.
I agree with you on that one...he needs a 'director of football' to bring in new talent who don't come from UTD or Celtic. He does seem to have an Irish/Scots agenda too, but that's not unprecedented..... Arsenal being the biggest culprit with their French agenda (French manager) and Liverscum with their Spanish agenda (Spanish manager)...do we see a pattern here?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 12:36:00 pm
supposedly they are going to go after alan smith in the summer. the joke between fans of both sides is who is going to pay who
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 12:45:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  supposedly they are going to go after alan smith in the summer. the joke between fans of both sides is who is going to pay who
I'd take Smith over Michael O'wenotherinjuryhappen
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 12:52:00 pm
shit vs poop
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 12:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  shit vs poop
What are we talking about now? A Tyneside derby???
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 01:00:00 pm
hahaha
 
 if we stay up, it ought to be interesting who stays. i bet stupid ass mike owen somehow stays and starts ever game. and scores in single digits
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 02:53:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hahaha
 
 if we stay up, it ought to be interesting who stays. i bet stupid ass mike owen somehow stays and starts ever game. and scores in single digits
The whole team will probably finish in single digits, never mind Mikey..
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
i meant next year. but whatever
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 04:11:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i meant next year. but whatever
Yeah....me too..
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 04:22:00 pm
i'd take that bet
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 04:32:00 pm
THIS JUST IN
 
 Mikey Owen just blasts it over the bar...that fucker should've been a place kicker.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 17, 2008, 04:39:00 pm
ONE - NIL...ONE - NIL....ONE - NIL
 
    :p
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 17, 2008, 07:44:00 pm
should have scored a second. oba is such a disruptive force, he has to play. dont know what kev has against him. he made that goal
 
 how bad were those free kicks? guess thats what we get with no jimmy mils or zogs. we needed a point, 3 would have been nice, but i really was not feeling good about it anyway. kind of relieved
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Post by: vansmack on March 19, 2008, 01:20:00 pm
Wednesday, March 19
 
 4:00pm Manchester United vs. Bolton (FSC)
 4:00pm Tottenham vs. Chelsea (Set)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on March 21, 2008, 03:50:00 pm
Saturday, March 22
 
 8:30am Tottenham vs. Portsmouth (Set)
 10:45am Aston Villa vs. Sunderland (Set)
 11:00am Newcastle vs. Fulham (FSC)
 1:00pm Everton vs. West Ham (FSC)
 6:30pm Bolton vs. Manchester City (Set)
 8:00pm Reading vs. Birmingham City (FSC)  
 
 Sunday, March 23
 
 9:30am Manchester Utd vs. Liverpool (Set)
 11:30am Blackburn vs. Wigan (Set)
 12:00pm Chelsea vs. Arsenal (FSC)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 21, 2008, 04:15:00 pm
awesome. love it when the toon have the 10/11 am fsc game
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 21, 2008, 04:27:00 pm
anyone want to predict the scores of the big four?
 
 I'd say they're all too close to call but I'll go for it.
 
 Man Utd 2 - 1 scum
 Arse 1 - chelski
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 21, 2008, 04:49:00 pm
at ot and stamford bridge right?
 
 man u wins 3-1
 1-1 tie in the other
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 24, 2008, 11:54:00 am
looks like chelski got 'pool's goal in my prediction  ;)
 
 mascherano, what a clown
 
 good win for toon as well. long time coming, and really needed. just want to say that jimmy bullard is vastly overrated. barton took the ball off of him more times than i could count
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 24, 2008, 12:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  looks like chelski got 'pool's goal in my prediction   ;)  
 
 mascherano, what a clown
 
 good win for toon as well. long time coming, and really needed. just want to say that jimmy bullard is vastly overrated. barton took the ball off of him more times than i could count
Barton is good at stealing things...it's bred into filthy scouse dirtbags!
 
 Scumpool have failed to get a result from Utd in the last 8 meetings so I have just one thing to sing....
 
 "CAN WE PLAY YOU EVERY WEEK, CAN WE PLA'A'A'AY YO'O'O'OU EV'RY WE'E'E'K!!"
 
 As usual I didn't get to see the game but I assume the red card was deserved going by the reports.
 
 Congrats to the toon, even though I can't stand Keegan.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 24, 2008, 01:49:00 pm
you dont like keegan? i couldnt tell   :p  
 
 i thought the first yellow was borderline, but he complained when it was given and never stopped. after all that has been said by the fa during the week, players had to know that they needed to cap it, and the commentators on setenta seemed to think it was coming too. really no sympathy from me as a mostly impartial observer
 
 shame that one of the biggest fixtures of the season came down to that, but not the ref's fault in my eyes
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Post by: vansmack on March 24, 2008, 01:58:00 pm
He ran 30 yards just to bitch about another player who just received a yellow card for bitching.  And after being warned, he still wouldn't shut up.  I really don't know what the guy was thinking.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 24, 2008, 02:22:00 pm
So what do you think. Do we have it wrapped up yet?
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Post by: vansmack on March 24, 2008, 02:39:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  So what do you think. Do we have it wrapped up yet?
Well, we still play both of our chasers, but both of them are also still alive in Europe, which I think greatly helps United who have the deepest squad.
 
 I would not want to be Arsenal right now with a trip to Bolton, Liverpool (home), Liverpool (home), Liverpool (Anfield) and then a trip to Old Trafford.
 
 Chelsea have a softer schedule, but also have trips to Goodison and The City of Light before they have United at Stamford Bridge.
 
 I don't think it's wrapped up just yet, but I do like the 5 point cushion and the HUGE goal differential.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 25, 2008, 11:01:00 am
Finally, an England manager with a pair big enough to go for the best choice and not the most popular...
 
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7312855.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7312855.stm)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 25, 2008, 11:16:00 am
thank god its not terry
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 25, 2008, 11:30:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  thank god its not terry
Or Gerrard.
 
 
 I was trying to figure out who would be the best choice and I came up with Rio myself....but only through process of elmination as nobody jumps out at me as a 'leader' to be honest. Rooney will be a great captain in a few years but he's still maturing and subject to losing his cool.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 25, 2008, 11:40:00 am
agreed on gerrard
 
 i read something on the english captaincy last week, and actually came away thinking rooney myself. i was going to bring it up here, but i didnt want to make you too happy   :p  
 
 i do like the idea of trying a few people out before a final decision. i think rio deserves a run out. at least you know he wont try and take the card out of the refs hand
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Post by: vansmack on March 25, 2008, 12:18:00 pm
Rooney is not there yet, but it's his job for the taking (as it is at Old Trafford as well).  He just needs to grow up a bit.
 
 I like the Rio nod.  What he's done with the back four at United is vastly underrated.  For all the applause the Goals For Number gets, it's the ridiculously low Goals Against number that has given United the differential it enjoys.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 25, 2008, 12:29:00 pm
I just don't think a striker is the ideal position to captain a team. A full back or midfielder can see the how the game is unfolding much better than a striker can. Besides, you never see Generals leading armies from the front lines!  ;)
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Post by: vansmack on March 25, 2008, 12:42:00 pm
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
   Besides, you never see Generals leading armies from the front lines!   ;)  
Except Patton.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 25, 2008, 02:59:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
   Besides, you never see Generals leading armies from the front lines!    ;)  
Except Patton. [/b]
I meant real armies.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 25, 2008, 03:18:00 pm
wasnt cantona captain
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 25, 2008, 04:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  wasnt cantona captain
I don't think they even let him play for his country, never mind captain it.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 25, 2008, 04:40:00 pm
captain of man u, is what i meant  
 
 according to wikipedia he was briefly captain of france before his 'incident'
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 25, 2008, 04:47:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  captain of man u, is what i meant  
 
 according to wikipedia he was briefly captain of france before his 'incident'
Oh right...yes he was. Then Keano took over if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 27, 2008, 09:49:00 am
Ford film saved by Manchester United
 
 http://uk.news.yahoo.com/wenn/20080327/ten-ford-film-saved-by-manchester-united-c60bd6d.html (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/wenn/20080327/ten-ford-film-saved-by-manchester-united-c60bd6d.html)
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Post by: vansmack on March 28, 2008, 07:55:00 pm
Sorry about the late posting.  I just woke up from the France-England match...
 
 Saturday, March 29
 
 11:00am Bolton vs. Arsenal (Set)
 11:00am Derby vs. Fulham (FSC)
 1:00pm Manchester United vs. Aston Villa (FSC)
 6:00pm Sunderland vs. West Ham (SDC)
 7:45pm Reading vs. Blackburn (SDC)
 
 Sunday, March 30
 
 8:30am Chelsea vs. Middlesbrough (Set)
 11:00am Liverpool vs. Everton (FSC)  
 4:30pm Tottenham vs. Newcastle (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 29, 2008, 12:00:00 pm
watching the arse match live....
 
 
 and seriously what the fuck
 bummed about the delay tomorrow. kind of weird but whatever. should be high scoring
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Post by: godsshoeshine on March 29, 2008, 03:52:00 pm
whew, nevermind
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on March 30, 2008, 01:38:00 pm
NEWSFLASH@!!!!!
 
 Newcastly United have reportedly scored FUOR goals in a single game, which has doubled their goal total for the current season!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on March 30, 2008, 08:02:00 pm
fuor?   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2008, 11:30:00 am
Mexico Hires Bruce Arena as National Team Coach (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/04/mexico-to-hire.html)
 
 Just a day after firing Mexican legend Hugo Sanchez as head coach of the Mexican national team, the Mexican Football Federation has found his replacement and it is a familiar face to U.S. national team fans.
 
 Former U.S. national team, D.C. United and Red Bulls coach Bruce Arena will be named the new head coach of the Mexican national team at a press conference in Mexico City on Tuesday. Arena will sign a contract that will run through the 2010 World Cup.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2008, 11:35:00 am
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE QUARTERFINALS
 
 Tuesday, April 1
 
 2:30 Roma vs. Manchester United (ESPN2)
 2:30 Schalke vs. Barcelona (Set)
 5:00 Schalke vs. Barcelona (ESPN Classic Replay)
 
 Wednesday, April 2
 
 2:30 Arsenal vs. Liverpool (ESPN2)
 2:30 Fenerbache vs. Chelsea (Set)
 5:00 Fenerbache vs. Chelsea (ESPN Classic Replay)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 01, 2008, 11:44:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Mexico Hires Bruce Arena as National Team Coach (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/04/mexico-to-hire.html)
 
 Just a day after firing Mexican legend Hugo Sanchez as head coach of the Mexican national team, the Mexican Football Federation has found his replacement and it is a familiar face to U.S. national team fans.
 
 Former U.S. national team, D.C. United and Red Bulls coach Bruce Arena will be named the new head coach of the Mexican national team at a press conference in Mexico City on Tuesday. Arena will sign a contract that will run through the 2010 World Cup.
That will piss the Mexicans off big time having a gringo as their head coach..an American gringo too!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 01, 2008, 11:44:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Mexico Hires Bruce Arena as National Team Coach (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/04/mexico-to-hire.html)
 
 Just a day after firing Mexican legend Hugo Sanchez as head coach of the Mexican national team, the Mexican Football Federation has found his replacement and it is a familiar face to U.S. national team fans.
 
 Former U.S. national team, D.C. United and Red Bulls coach Bruce Arena will be named the new head coach of the Mexican national team at a press conference in Mexico City on Tuesday. Arena will sign a contract that will run through the 2010 World Cup.
april fools?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2008, 11:59:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 april fools?
Yes.  But at 7:30 this morning when I openend up Soccer by Ives I had no idea what day it was.  Totally fooled me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 01, 2008, 12:05:00 pm
this day makes the internet unbearable
 
 anyhow, dont know if i'll get to watch the matches today, but no totti for roma = no prayer
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 01, 2008, 12:14:00 pm
here's a couple of other ones:
 http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=385574 (http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=385574)
 
 http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=642487 (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=642487)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 01, 2008, 05:29:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  here's a couple of other ones:
  http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=385574 (http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=385574)
 
  http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=642487 (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=642487)
I'm all messed up with the calender, I thought it was April 1st when they appointed Keegan as the new boss at St. James.
 
 
 I see a stroll in the Roma park for the mighty red devils this evening.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 01, 2008, 05:44:00 pm
Club strip teases faithful fans  
 
 Plymouth Argyle FC decided to capitalise on its Scottish manager and half a dozen Scottish players by changing to a new tartan away kit.
 
 It ordered and displayed a prototype outfit and announced the decision on its club website on Tuesday morning.
 
 Fans and media began to show an interest when star signing Steve McLean posed with the new kit.
 
 But it was an elaborate April Fool hoax - in fact, the team will be wearing a tangerine and green kit for 2008-09.
 
 Steve Hill, from the club's media department, said:"It was just a bit of fun. Quite a few people, including at least one team member, were caught out by it."
 
 The Championship club,with an average home attendance of more than 13,000 supporters, came clean on its website on Tuesday afternoon and confessed all.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2008, 05:59:00 pm
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
 
 I see a stroll in the Roma park for the mighty red devils this evening.
They didn't look sas good as they did on Saturday (Ronaldo looked as good as I've ever seen him on Saturday), but they played extremely well in Italy.  Without Totti, Roma looked punchless.
 
 Vidic took a concerning knock (knee) in the first half and left on the cart.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 02, 2008, 09:02:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
 
 I see a stroll in the Roma park for the mighty red devils this evening.
They didn't look sas good as they did on Saturday (Ronaldo looked as good as I've ever seen him on Saturday), but they played extremely well in Italy.  Without Totti, Roma looked punchless.
 
 Vidic took a concerning knock (knee) in the first half and left on the cart. [/b]
The good thing for Manchester is thay they are almost in the final. Barcelona is going through its worst crisis of the last five years and no one believes the team will beat Manchester United. Ronaldinho might not play again for Barcelona, Deco seems not keen on playing football at all. Marquez the same thing, although yesterday he played a few minutes. And the rest either injured or with a lack of confidence that is astonishing.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 02, 2008, 09:23:00 pm
Two very entertaining games today.
 
 A wise man once told me you never want to have to go to Turkey.  It's nice a place to visit, but anytime you have to go to Turkey it can't be good.   Chelsea found that out tonight.  Fenerbahce were shit in the first half - coudn't have looked worse.  But Chelsea failed to capitalize and boy did they pay the price in the second half.  Deivid's game winner was exquisite.
 
 Other than the last 15 minutes or so, I found the Arsenal/Liverpool match entertaining as well.  Liverpool has to be feeling good about the result, but it very easily could have gone either way.  A tie was probably a just result.  I was rooting for Arsenal injuries and I got one in Van Persie getting hurt again.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 04, 2008, 03:49:00 pm
Saturday, April 5
 
 7:30am Arsenal vs. Liverpool (set)
 10:00am Newcastle vs. Reading (FSC)
 10:00am Manchester City vs. Chelsea (Set)
 12:00pm Aston Villa  Bolton (FSC)
 6:00pm Fulham vs. Sunderland (SDC)
 7:45pm Blackburn vs. Tottenham (SDC)
 
 Sunday, April 6
 
 8:30am Middlesbrough vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 4:30pm Everton vs. Derby (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 04, 2008, 04:24:00 pm
cl kind of takes the luster off of the best match this weekend. supposedly torres and gerrard are going to get rotated too
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 04, 2008, 04:27:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  cl kind of takes the luster off of the best match this weekend. supposedly torres and gerrard are going to get rotated too
Still, it is great to have three games between Arsenal and Liverpool in six days. Great for football.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 04, 2008, 04:32:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  cl kind of takes the luster off of the best match this weekend. supposedly torres and gerrard are going to get rotated too
How 'bout Setanta getting Liverpool, Arsenal, United and Chelsea all in the same weekend?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 04, 2008, 04:39:00 pm
I'd like to see all three games between arse and scum end up as a draw...both drop a couple of points in the league and have to play o/t in the champs lge...tired legs being the result. Add to that tempers will be stretched by game three so we might see some supsensions. Then if shitty do their cross-town loveable neighbours a favour this weekend United could pretty much have it wrapped up by Monday. Having said all that Boro always give utd fits for some reason so I'm taking nothing for granted.
 
 I see old Goofy at Barca is out for the season..more good news for UTD if we get past Roma.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 04, 2008, 08:49:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  cl kind of takes the luster off of the best match this weekend. supposedly torres and gerrard are going to get rotated too
How 'bout Setanta getting Liverpool, Arsenal, United and Chelsea all in the same weekend? [/b]
i didnt even notice that. i suppose that the shitty/chelski match could be mildly compelling as well
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 05, 2008, 09:17:00 am
You couldn't write this stuff for a movie. Your cross town rivals who hate  you with a passion because of an inferiority complex go a long way to handing you the title by taking points off you closest challengers.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 05, 2008, 12:19:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  You couldn't write this stuff for a movie. Your cross town rivals who hate  you with a passion because of an inferiority complex go a long way to handing you the title by taking points off you closest challengers.
If only shitty had helped us out as well...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 05, 2008, 01:33:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  You couldn't write this stuff for a movie. Your cross town rivals who hate  you with a passion because of an inferiority complex go a long way to handing you the title by taking points off you closest challengers.
If only shitty had helped us out as well... [/b]
Yeah fuck em!! You know they threw the game just to spite United...shitty even scored the first goal themselves for crying out loud!!!   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: serpent boy on April 05, 2008, 02:08:00 pm
:)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 05, 2008, 03:12:00 pm
Does the crazy lady still own the canaries?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: serpent boy on April 05, 2008, 08:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  Does the crazy lady still own the canaries?
Yep, Delia the drunkard is still around.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-KizC6wEys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-KizC6wEys)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 06, 2008, 04:55:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 
 Vidic took a concerning knock (knee) in the first half and left on the cart.
Both goals were scored where Vidic would normally be.  And as if it couldn't get worse, Rio limped off.  Eesh.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 07, 2008, 04:24:00 pm
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE QUARTERFINALS - 2nd LEG
 
 
 Tuesday, April 8
 
 2:30pm Liverpool vs. Arsenal (ESPN2)
 2:30pm Chelsea vs. Fenerbahce (Set, ESPN Classic @5)
 
 Wednesday, April 9
 
 2:30pm Manchester United vs. AS Roma (ESPN2)
 2:30pm Barcelona vs. FC Shalke (Set, ESPN Clasic @5)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 07, 2008, 04:56:00 pm
Not to worry, United have depth this season (for a change) I can't see them letting it slip away this late in the season, and rumour has it Cech was involved in a fight on the practice field with an unnamed player so Chelski are in a bit of a turmoil right now...I can honestly see them going out on Tuesday. Goals don't come easy for them and Fenerbache will just field 9 defenders and shut up shop.
 
 Arse are just too far away to chase the premiership and seem to be losing their nerve so I can see Liverpool going through.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 07, 2008, 04:58:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  rumour has it Cech was involved in a fight on the practice field with an unnamed player so Chelski are in a bit of a turmoil right now...I can honestly see them going out on Tuesday. Goals don't come easy for them and Fenerbache will just field 9 defenders and shut up shop.
 
His face was rebroken and he's out for at least two weeks.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 07, 2008, 05:20:00 pm
was it really a fight? i hadnt heard that
 
 at 38 points the toon is pretty much safe and not nearly as compelling
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 07, 2008, 05:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  at 38 points the toon is pretty much safe and not nearly as compelling
Yeah, who are these Newcastle players and what did you do with the team that was outscored by United in double digits?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 07, 2008, 05:29:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  was it really a fight? i hadnt heard that
 
 
Evidently Lampard was told Cech stole his pork pie from his locker so all hell broke loose!!!
 
 Seriously, I was lurking on the chelski fanboard on the BBC and read it was a fight...not sure who punched him but they thought it was Drogba. Not exactly a reliable source but just thought I'd report what I read.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 08, 2008, 10:39:00 am
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Yeah, who are these Newcastle players and what did you do with the team that was outscored by United in double digits?
they finally listened to the inspirational genius that is king kev    :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 08, 2008, 01:44:00 pm
Rio could actually play tomorrow so no biggie on the injury at the weekend.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 08, 2008, 04:33:00 pm
sooooooooooooooooo, was it a penalty?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 08, 2008, 04:49:00 pm
the press in spain says no
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 08, 2008, 06:11:00 pm
So does Arsen Wenger evidently!  ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 08, 2008, 08:10:00 pm
god no, tell me its not liverpool chelzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2008, 11:45:00 am
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Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  sooooooooooooooooo, was it a penalty?
It was certainly not as bad as last weeks take down in the box that did not go Arsenal's way.
 
 Helluva match though.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2008, 11:48:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  god no, tell me its not liverpool chelzzzzzzzzzzz
Indeed it is.  And after Chelsea scored at the 4 minute mark, that's exaclty what you got for the next 86 minutes....zzzzzzz.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 09, 2008, 12:15:00 pm
two boring unlikeable teams that have played each other like 20 times in four years. whats not to like
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 10, 2008, 03:27:00 pm
Saturday, April 10
 
 10:00am Tottenham vs. Middlesbrough (Set)
 10:00am Reading vs. Fulham (FSC)
 12:00pm Portsmouth vs. Newcastle (FSC)
 4:30pm Sunderland vs. Manchester City (SDC)
 6:15pm Derby County vs. Aston Villa (SDC)
 11:00pm Birmingham vs. Everton (FSC)
 
 Sunday, Arpil 13
 
 8:30am Liverpool vs. Blackburn (Set)  
 11:00am Manchester United vs. Arsenal (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 10, 2008, 06:18:00 pm
soooooooooooooooooo was Wes Browns take down a penalty?
 
 Actually, I'll answer that.
 
 In the EPL it's not and the striker gets a yellow for embelishment but in the gay european game it is. It was just poetic justice he sent it skyward.
 
 A solid display by United who were always in control of the game, even when Roma got a bit of momentum United never looked troubled.
 
 Good to see Nev back in the team though....and do you think Rio's 'injury' was just a bit of gamesmanship on the part of Fergie? He limped off at  half time, was not subbed and played as solid as ever. Hmmmmmmmm, it makes you wonder.
 
 Hargreaves was definatley man of the match and Park a close second.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on April 10, 2008, 08:00:00 pm
Barcelona could not arrive to the semifinals in a worst situation, both in terms of the quality of the football displayed by the team and in terms of the sitation within the institution.
 
 And now missing Puyol for the first game. add to this that Ronaldinho and Deco have been left out of the team until the end of the season, when they will be sold to someone crazy enough to get two players no longer interested in the game. Messi is our only option now that he will be recovered from the latest injury.
 
 I give Barcelona a 20% chance of making it to the final.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 11, 2008, 09:40:00 am
You're missing one thing...they're playing Manchester United, and every team wants to beat Manchester United more than any other team in the world so Barca will raise their game I guarantee you. It will be close.
 
 I'm sure the other semi will be two drab games from two boring but effective teams. I'm sure their game plan is to put the other team to sleep.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 11, 2008, 03:33:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  soooooooooooooooooo was Wes Browns take down a penalty?
 
 
 Hargreaves was definatley man of the match and Park a close second.
Absolutely not a penalty.  
 
 And yes, Hargreaves was awesome.  I hear he's having trouble with Fergie.  He was out earlier in the season with the injury, but since then he's been late to a meeting or two and is having trouble with Fergie over it.  When he gets in though, that's what you get.  He could be the fastest guy on the squad.
 
 Overlooked with Neville's return was Sylvestre's play.  Between Pique, Neville, and Slyvestre I'm feeling better about the loss of Vidic, which comes to an end ahead of the match with Chelsea.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 11, 2008, 04:18:00 pm
I agree about Silvo....Pique will be a superb player when he gets his confidence up. I get the impression he's a little starstruck when he plays with the 'big boys' He's much better than he thinks he is.
 
 As for Vidic, my only concern with him coming back from injury just in time for chelskzzzzzzzzz is he's such a tough player that if his timing is off he's likely to give away a penalty, and chelskzzzzzzzzz always go for the pk with Didier "OOOOOOOHHHHH I"VE JUST BEEN SHOT IN THE BACK" Drogba.
 
 I think if Hargreaves was in the shit with Fergie he'd be gettint shopped by now. You know Fergie doesn't take any nonesense....Becks, RVN, Staam to name just three who can attest to that.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 14, 2008, 06:37:00 pm
I think Hargreaves is out of the dog house now.  He's been the best player on the pitch for three straight matches.
 
 I have no idea how United weren't down 4-0 at halftime to Arsenal - that's as bad as I've seen them this season.  But the second half was a completely different story.  What a difference Tevez and Anderson made compared to Scholes and Park.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 14, 2008, 07:00:00 pm
WI'I'I'I'GUN....WI'I'I'I'I'GUN....WI'I'I'I'I'GUN!!!!
 
    :D  
 
 Good old Brucie did us a great favour tonight...you can take the player out of United but you'll never take the United out of the player
 
 
 And for the record...Arse's goal was another hand of God. Yes it was a penalty, a handball is a handball wether intentional or not. The ref acknowledged it was not intentional by keeping his cards in his pocket, but it's still a penalty regardless. And the set piece that gave United the second goal was simply a stroke of genius.
 
 Oh yes, Lehman is a wanker.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 14, 2008, 07:08:00 pm
The look on Grant's face was priceless.
 
 Now with a Thursday trip to Goodison - this is great.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 14, 2008, 07:25:00 pm
I can see chelkzzzzz losing on Thursday, Everton are a very difficult team to play. Moyes is one of the best managers in the premiership achieving what he has with what he's got. He's like a younger version of 'Arry Rednap. They can put a bunch of misfits together and make a formidable team out of them. 'Arry has made a career of it. (Did I hear Mankie say he should've been England manager if they wanted an Englishman?)   ;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 15, 2008, 10:27:00 am
cant see the toffees having a chance without arteta and cahill
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 17, 2008, 01:32:00 pm
LADS!!! Let's keep this one on the front page!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 17, 2008, 01:34:00 pm
especially nearly on the eve of DERBY DAY
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2008, 10:46:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  especially nearly on the eve of DERBY DAY
No offense but tomorrow I'm a mackam because Keano is God and Keego is a wanker.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 18, 2008, 11:19:00 am
enjoy your tears   :D
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2008, 11:49:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  enjoy your tears    :D  
Newcastle United have changed their name from "The Magpies" to "The Dogs" because that's the only way they'll be able to hold on to a lead!!!   :D  
 
 How long have you been a toon fan?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 18, 2008, 11:58:00 am
what? newcastle has given up two goals in the past month
 
 newcastle has been my team since 1997, but i have not had regular access to matches until the past few years
 
 pisstaking aside, this summer is going to be big for roy. he really needs to improve that squad, and he might have to go beyond ireland, manusa castoffs and celtic alsorans
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2008, 12:30:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  what? newcastle has given up two goals in the past month
 
 newcastle has been my team since 1997, but i have not had regular access to matches until the past few years
 
 pisstaking aside, this summer is going to be big for roy. he really needs to improve that squad, and he might have to go beyond ireland, manusa castoffs and celtic alsorans
I agree...what's up with that with Keano? I'm just grateful Fergie isn't as narrow minded as Keano... Wenger (french) and Benitez (spanish). Imagine where United would be if he only used jocks and Aberdeen also-rans!!!   :eek:  
 
 As for toon, permaboy needs to stop obsessing about Mikey Owen, who should be following the footsteps of Becks and enjoying the twilight of his career in the MLS. He's  making the mistake of building a team around an almost hasbeen. Owen has one more season at the top level left in him in my opnion
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 18, 2008, 12:53:00 pm
notice that oba got the new deal first
 
 i'm actually with you on owen. it would not surprise me if mike is in a man city uniform next year. i know whats been said in the press, but if you can get ¬£8 million i say take their hands off. i just dont see the logic in paying such an injury prone player the kind of wages (¬£125k a week!) that he wants when you have plenty of money to spend on a new striker
 
 sorry for the little rant there
 
 and i totally agree that getting stuck on a players origin rather than footballing skills is bad for business
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 18, 2008, 01:38:00 pm
Saturday, April 19
 
 7:30am Arsenal vs. Reading (set)
 9:45am Fulham vs. Liverpool (Set)
 10:00am Wigan vs. Tottenham (FSC)
 12:00pm Blackburn vs. Man United (FSC)
 4:15pm West Ham vs. Derby County (SDC)
 6:30pm Middlesbrough vs. Bolton (FSC)
 
 Sunday, April 20
   
 7:00am Aston Villa vs. Birmingham City (Set)
 11:00am Manchester City vs. Portsmouth (FSC)
 5:00pm Newcastle vs. Sunderland (SDC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2008, 01:59:00 pm
Man Utd trio agree new contracts  
 
 
 Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick and Wes Brown have agreed new contracts with Manchester United.
 
 
 
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7354524.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7354524.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on April 18, 2008, 02:06:00 pm
I'm a little surprised at Wes Brown, but I think he's earned it with his performance this year.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 18, 2008, 02:13:00 pm
i thought he wanted out, and carrick was 50/50
 
 kind of mad the toon/scumderland match isnt live, though
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 18, 2008, 03:31:00 pm
For fear of sounding arrogant, but if you're in the prime of your career, once you've played for Man Utd who else are you going to want to play for in the EPL?
 
 Brown never wanted out, just more money.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 18, 2008, 03:35:00 pm
i guess the story was they werent going to give it to him. doesnt matter now
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 21, 2008, 10:42:00 am
must have been a rough weekend for mank   :p
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 21, 2008, 11:28:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  must have been a rough weekend for mank    ;)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 21, 2008, 11:34:00 am
haha, you werent much of a mackem then
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Post by: vansmack on April 21, 2008, 03:47:00 pm
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE SEMI-FINALS - First Leg
 
 
 Tuesday, April 22
 
 2:30 Liverpool vs. Chelsea (ESPN2)
 
 
 Wednesday, April 23
 
 2:30 Barcelona vs. Manchester United (ESPN2)
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Post by: Barcelona on April 21, 2008, 09:18:00 pm
We have four tickets for the whole season including the Champions League, however, the team is doing so bad that my brother might not go and two of the four tickets might not be used (I guess he will change his mind, but Barcelona has the quietest supporters in Europe who get depressed with the team quite easily).
 
 
 http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AnpthaQBuNslPCMRSu9HCzkmw7YF?slug=ap-extratime&prov=ap&type=lgns (http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AnpthaQBuNslPCMRSu9HCzkmw7YF?slug=ap-extratime&prov=ap&type=lgns)
 
 Barcelona aims to copy AC Milan‚??s Champions League triumph
 By ROBERT MILLWARD, AP Soccer Writer
 
 AP - Apr 21, 12:05 pm EDT World Soccer Gallery LONDON (AP)‚??Last season, it was AC Milan vs. the Premier League. The Italian club won.
 
 This time, it‚??s FC Barcelona‚??s turn to take on English soccer in the Champions League with Manchester United, Liverpool and Chelsea all in the semifinals for the second season in a row.
 
 If last season is any guide, bet on a Barcelona triumph when the final comes around in Moscow on May 21.
 
 Although the current form and odds suggest the famous trophy will be headed for England, fate could send it to Spain.
 
 The English teams are great at reaching the last four, and there will be at least one Premier League club in the final for the fourth season in a row. Actually picking up the trophy is another thing altogether‚??they‚??ve won just two since 1984.
 
 Since then, the Italian clubs (seven titles) and Spanish (five) have proved to be much better at that, and the English trio could well be beaten to the top prize by Barcelona, which defeated Arsenal 2-1 in the 2006 final.
 
 Like Milan a year ago, Barcelona is way off the lead in its domestic league, plagued by injuries to big players and struggling for consistency.
 
 Milan finished fourth and 36 points behind Inter Milan in the 2007 Italian league, although that included eight points imposed for its part in a match-fixing scam. Saving its best form for the Champions League, it beat Liverpool 2-1 in the final in Athens, Greece.
 
 Barcelona is third and 11 points behind Real Madrid in the Spanish title race and that means, like Milan last season, it realistically only has the Champions League to focus on.
 
 Now, with Lionel Messi, Samuel Eto‚??o and Deco fit again, Barcelona has the talent to beat Manchester United in Wednesday‚??s first leg at the Camp Nou a day after Liverpool and Chelsea face each other at Anfield. The return legs are next week.
 
 Barcelona comes off a 0-0 tie at home against cross-city rival Espanyol on Saturday, although midfielder Andres Iniesta says that‚??s a good sign.
 
 ‚??The Champions League is another story,‚?Ě Iniesta said. ‚??A good example is that after a terrible (3-2 loss) in Seville against Betis, we were able to beat Schalke in Germany. It‚??s very important for us to get to the final, and we have 180 minutes ahead of us to do so.‚?Ě
 
 Barcelona just has to shrug aside its league form and switch into Champions League mode. But pressure has been mounting on the Barca players since they began falling too far behind Madrid in the league title race.
 
 Barcelona started the season expecting great things from its new-look strikeforce with Thierry Henry joining Messi, Eto‚??o and Ronaldinho. But the French striker has failed to make an impact in Spanish soccer, Messi and Eto‚??o have spent long spells on the sideline with injuries and Ronaldinho, clearly putting on weight, has been accused of enjoying the nightlife a little too much.
 
 The Brazilian great is out of action with a torn leg muscle and there is strong speculation he might be moving to AC Milan. With 17-year-old Bojan Krkic producing standout performances on his introduction to the team, however, Barcelona still has the players capable of beating Manchester United.
 
 The problem for the Catalan team is that it appears to have lost confidence, and the fans can feel it.
 
 They have been getting on the backs of the players, coach Frank Rijkaard and president Joan Laporta, especially with traditional rival Madrid on the way to winning the Spanish league title for the second season in a row.
 
 Now the team has to respond with two big performances against Manchester United, which is leading the Premier League and hoping to win the league title for the second season in a row. United effectively needs only to win at second-place Chelsea on Saturday to clinch. The Red Devils were in a similar situation last term, with Chelsea also back in second place.
 
 But Alex Ferguson‚??s team couldn‚??t manage the double. It struggled twice in the Champions League semifinals against Milan, coming from behind to win 3-2 in the first leg at Old Trafford and being soundly beaten 3-0 in the return.
 
 With the home leg first, Rijkaard needs to get the best out of Messi, Eto‚??o, Henry, Deco and Krkic when the two teams meet at Camp Nou, so it can defend a lead at Old Trafford next week.
 
 If he doesn‚??t, European soccer will be looking at a first all-English Champions League final, Premier League dominance will be complete and Rijkaard probably will be searching for another job.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 22, 2008, 05:02:00 pm
1-1 at least they doubled the goal tally of their usual encounters.    :roll:
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2008, 12:18:00 pm
haha, to be fair one was an o.g., right. i made it a point not to watch, and i plan on watching barca play some team when i get home from work
 
 transfer speculation is running wild already. today's rumor is that the toon have pretty much sewn up modric
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 23, 2008, 12:18:00 pm
Predictions for the result? I've no idea because it really could go either way, but will stick my neck out and say 2-1 for United.
 
 Vidic was taken into hospital last night with a stomach problem....or maybe it was another Fergie mind game.
 
 Man Utd wait on Vidic after scare
 
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7363565.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7363565.stm)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2008, 12:23:00 pm
i'll go 1-1 just barely making the second leg interesting. cant see barca scoring more than a goal at ot, assuming that fergie is playing games
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 23, 2008, 12:32:00 pm
My only fear is that Ronaldo will over-play (if that's even a term) because tonight, in his mind, he'll be auditioning for his new team.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 23, 2008, 12:37:00 pm
real?  ;)
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Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2008, 12:37:00 pm
So, as for last night, I thought the whistle had blown and Riise stuck it in the net as a joke at then end.  
 
 Then I saw him pick his head up and turn white as a ghost.  He looked like he was about to cry and couldn't believe what had happened.  Even the Chelsea players were sort of in shock over what happened.
 
 Then I laughed.  And laughed.  And laughed.
 
 As for today, 1-1 draw.  I will not be watching live and will be avoiding this thread from 2:30 on.
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Post by: Barcelona on April 23, 2008, 05:56:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I give Barcelona a 20% chance of making it to the final.
After watching today¬īs game, I give Barcelona a 40% chance. We didn¬īt play well, but Manchester will have to look for a goal in Engand, that may open spaces for Messi, Etoo, Iniesta, Deco and Xavi. can¬īt wait for next Tuesday.
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Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2008, 06:27:00 pm
Ronaldo missed a golden opportunity early, but United's defense was splendid.  Boy I would have liked that away goal though.
 
 Barca were the better team tonight going forward, but were very short on chances, despite the absence of Vidic.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 24, 2008, 08:49:00 am
kind of a weird team man u put out there, but they really seemed to out muscle barca in the last third. scholes really enjoys giving away free kicks in bad spots
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2008, 10:29:00 am
Just a couple of comments from yesterday.
 
 1.) That missed penalty just might cost United a place in the final
 
 2.) Barca dominating the game with 65% of possesion and not being able to put the game away on home soil just might cost them a place in the final.
 
 In summary - It's all still to play for and too close to call!!!
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Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2008, 12:11:00 pm
So I watched it again last night on a real TV (I slingboxed it the first time), and I must say, I now know why I can't watch Italian football.  United definitely looked like Milan out there playing as defensively as they did.  And with fergie taking out both strikers for the last 10 minutes, I just don't know what to think.  I've never seen a United team take it's foot off the pedal.  I was a little disappointed.
 
 Which led me to think, maybe Barca cut a deal with Fergie.  Don't embarasas us at home by beating the crap out of us, costing all of us our jobs, and we'll reward with a 2-0 victory at Old Trafford and trip to the finals.  That's the only thing I can think of.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2008, 12:25:00 pm
Barca are spanish, not italian so I don't think there'd be any match fixing going on.
 
 Why was Rooney out on the wing? England have proved many times he needs to be up front in the middle running at the defense to be effective.
 
 I thought Wes Brown did a fine job of shutting Messi down, admittedly he's probably short of match fitness, but still. And we have no shortage of fullbacks seeing the way Hargreaves played back there.
 
 Tevez may as well have been back in Manc watching the game on telly for all he did. At half time I would've pulled Tevez, put Rooney in the middle and brought Giggs on as a winger.
 
 If United had scored that penalty that game would ended up being a high scoring game because it would've opened it up early on.
 
 Barca seemed to play like Arsenil by trying to dribble the ball over the line. At least when Henry came on he actually tried a shot that challenged VDS.
 
 I can't remember EVER seeing United sit back like that. Maybe Fergie was playing for a draw with the chelskzzzz match in mind so not wanting to tire them out too much.
 
 On a brigher note, at least we can survive at the back without Vidic if needs be.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 24, 2008, 12:26:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  So I watched it again last night on a real TV (I slingboxed it the first time), and I must say, I now know why I can't watch Italian football.  United definitely looked like Milan out there playing as defensively as they did.  And with fergie taking out both strikers for the last 10 minutes, I just don't know what to think.  I've never seen a United team take it's foot off the pedal.  I was a little disappointed.
 
 Which led me to think, maybe Barca cut a deal with Fergie.  Don't embarasas us at home by beating the crap out of us, costing all of us our jobs, and we'll reward with a 2-0 victory at Old Trafford and trip to the finals.  That's the only thing I can think of.
he didnt really play them as strikers though (especially rooney) which i found odd. it was more like ronaldo was playing up top by himself. as an outside observer that's seen united play around a dozen matches this year, it didnt look like the same team. and why park?
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Post by: Barcelona on April 24, 2008, 01:07:00 pm
I think Manchester United played too conservatively. Ronaldinho is no longer a FC Barcelona player, Messi has been injured a couple of times this season, this was his first game after the second injury. Deco and Marquez had not played in two months. Puyol was out. Etoo hasn't played well this year and Henry hasn't done anything at all in Spain. Pretty much the only ones who have consistently played well are Xavi, Iniesta, Toure Yaya and Abidal, which are good players but not among the best 30 players in the world. I think Manchester paid too much respect to Barcelona (you would be surprised at the awful statistics of Barcelona in the Spanish league since December), which is good because it tells me that we are still respected in Europe. However, I would not be surprised of a 3-0 in Old Trafford, but would not be surprised by 1-2 either.
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Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2008, 05:30:00 pm
THE ONLY GAME THAT MATTERS
 
 Saturday, April 26
 
 7:30am Chelsea vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 
 
 For the rest of you...
 
 10:00am Birmingham vs. Liverpool (Set)
 10:00am Sunderland vs. Middlesbrough (FSC)
 12:00pm Tottenham vs. Bolton (FSC)
 2:00pm Wigan vs. Reading (FSC)  
 2:15pm West Ham vs. Newcastle (SDC)
 4:15pm Manchester City vs. Fulham (SDC)
 
 Sunday, April 27
 
 11:00am Everton vs. Aston Villa (FSC)
 7:00pm Portsmouth vs. Blackburn (SDC)
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 24, 2008, 06:53:00 pm
You know what's great about Saturday....United can lose and still win the title. That goal difference is almost an extra point.
 
 I think United will win rather comfortably to be honest, but footie is a funny old game as they say.
 
 United have West Ham and Wigan which shouldn't give us too much trouble.
 
 Chelskzzz have Newcastle who seem to have a new lease on life, and then Bolton who are fighting for survival so will be a tough game.
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Post by: vansmack on April 26, 2008, 01:03:00 pm
Dubious, at best.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 26, 2008, 01:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Dubious, at best.
I didn't get to see it because of work, but I could've told you this morning if it was close something would've happened to aid chelskzzzzz. 38 minutes of injury time....weak penalty for.....non penalty call against. As it happene 2 out of 3 ain't bad as the fat bloke sang!!
 
 Having said all that, from what I read it seems United played very stand offish like they did against Barca. What's going on?? And why have Ronaldo on the bench? Fergie is going senile. You should play your strongest side, get a couple of goal lead then sub your top players ready for the next big game. Not hope a weakened side will pull it off against your closest rival.
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Post by: vansmack on April 29, 2008, 10:17:00 am
UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE SEMIFINALS - 2nd LEG
 
 Tuesday, April 29
 
 2:45pm Manchester United vs. Barcelona
 
 Wednesday, April 30
 
 2:45pm Chelsea vs. Liverpool
 
 
 I'm on a plane today for 5 hours so I booked my flight on Virgin America and their satellite TV to watch the match in the air.  I already feel badly for all the people on the plane with me...
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 29, 2008, 11:41:00 am
I'm actually going to take the afternoon off to go home and watch it, because even if I stayed at work I would be a waste of space as I'm going to be a wreck. This one really is too close to call. United off the boil and Barca with nothing else left to play for.
 
 Then we have the snooze-fest tomorrow which I couldn't give a toss about.
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Post by: Barcelona on April 29, 2008, 05:05:00 pm
what can I say in such a sad moment. We tried but couldn¬īt score against this incredible team. Congratulations to Manchester United and enjoy playing the final of the Champions League, to me the best game in football.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 29, 2008, 05:18:00 pm
That game really could have gone either way....I have to ask though....how can Barca enjoy so much possession and do absolutely nothing with it? It's like they want to dribble the ball over the goal line. At least when Henry came on he tried a shot from a distance, like he did during the last game. Eto'o was very quiet and Messi was totally shut down again.
 
 United's defence won that game because we didn't have much up front either really. Spectacular goal though don't you think?
 
 Well, on to Moscow and I have a feeling Barca will be shopping for a new manager in the summer.
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Post by: Venerable Bede on April 30, 2008, 02:42:00 pm
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  what can I say in such a sad moment. We tried but couldn¬īt score against this incredible team. Congratulations to Manchester United and enjoy playing the final of the Champions League, to me the best game in football.
did you see  senna's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91mZjZfVa8o) goal against betis on sunday?  i think it even made espn's top 10 of the day.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on April 30, 2008, 07:12:00 pm
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44616000/jpg/_44616270_gerrard_pa300.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HA HA HAHAHAHAHA
 
 GO EFF YOURSELF YOU SCOUSE TWAT!!!!!!!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on April 30, 2008, 09:35:00 pm
hahaha
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 01, 2008, 12:07:00 pm
Manchester United top rich list  
 
  <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44616000/gif/_44616873_man_utd_badge_203.gif" alt=" - " />
   
 
 Manchester United are the most valuable football club in the world, according to Forbes magazine.
 
 The Champions League finalists, who came second in a list compiled by accountants Deloitte in February, topped the table ahead of Real Madrid.
 
 Forbes value United at ¬£905m ($1,800m) and Real at ¬£646m ($1,285m), with Arsenal at ¬£603m ($1,200m) in third.
 
 Liverpool are up to fourth from 11th in the 25-team list, while Celtic are the only Scottish team, in 20th place.
 
 
 The other British representatives in the 25-team list are Chelsea in eighth, fellow Londoners Tottenham in 12th and 16th-placed Newcastle, while Everton, West Ham, Manchester City and Aston Villa occupy places 21-24.
 
 Meanwhile, David Beckham has replaced Ronaldinho as the world's highest-paid footballer after joining the Los Angeles Galaxy, earning ¬£25m per year ($48.9m).
 
 The Brazilian had to be content with second place while his Barcelona team-mate Thierry Henry earned ¬£12.5m in salary and sponsorship deals this season.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 01, 2008, 12:39:00 pm
should be interesting to see if the english clubs move up even further next year after the new tv deal kicks in
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 01, 2008, 12:53:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  should be interesting to see if the english clubs move up even further next year after the new tv deal kicks in
Seems doodle ownership has done Man USA no harm huh??  :D
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 01, 2008, 12:59:00 pm
haha, that number doesnt take into account debt, right? cause manusa and el doodlepool sure have a lot. to be fair, glazer's been loads smarter than those two bozos in scousetown
 
 really, cant believe toon's 16th with no european football
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 01, 2008, 02:43:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 
 really, cant believe toon's 16th with no european football
It's all those stupid geordies buying the new kit every season.....wait, it' s the same one every year....they really are stupid. "Way aaaaaay mon, it's canny leek!!"
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 01, 2008, 03:37:00 pm
i know you're making fun, but my favorite is the away kit they hardly ever wear, and the third kit which i think they've only worn once all season
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Post by: vansmack on May 02, 2008, 02:31:00 pm
Saturday, May 3
 
 7:30am Manchester Utd vs. West Ham (Set)
 9:45am Fulham vs. Birmingham City (Set)
 10:00am Reading vs. Tottenham (FSC)  
 12:00pm Bolton vs. Sunderland (FSC)  
 2:30pm Middlesbrough vs. Portsmouth (FSC)  
 3:00pm Blackburn vs. Derby County (SDC)
 
 
 Sunday, May 4
 
 8:30am  Arsenal vs. Everton (Set)
 11:00am Liverpool vs. Manchester City (FSC)  
 
 
 Monday, May 5
 
 11:00am Newcastle vs. Chelsea (Set)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 02, 2008, 02:38:00 pm
ah, i could only find the monday game on at 7. i guess monday must be a holiday in the uk. sure makes my life easier
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Post by: vansmack on May 05, 2008, 01:12:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  ah, i could only find the monday game on at 7. i guess monday must be a holiday in the uk. sure makes my life easier
Let me know when we can talk about it.  I watched it this morning.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 05, 2008, 02:35:00 pm
This is great...the premiership going down to the last game. When did that last happen?
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2008, 08:26:00 am
i didnt finish watching it until 10 pm eastern. mike owen must really really hate man u, because he had a couple of chances he usually buries. maybe should have let oba run at some people in the second half. knew it was fucked when dukes went off. they just dont keep possesion as well when hes not on the pitch. and how did the announcers not know that he's nursing a chronic injury?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 06, 2008, 09:09:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   mike owen must really really hate man u,  
That comes from Mikey's days at liverscum.
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Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2008, 12:15:00 pm
As many blown chances as Owen had, it really was Viduka going off that turned that game.  I hate to say this because I love the guy, but Alan Smith was shit and his entry to the game really was the turning point for the Toon.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2008, 01:16:00 pm
toon really need to buy a servicable big striker this summer. viduka is old and always hurt and smith like you said just cant cut it. rumors of smith going to rangers were out there a couple weeks back
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 06, 2008, 01:43:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  toon really need to buy a servicable big striker this summer. viduka is old and always hurt and smith like you said just cant cut it. rumors of smith going to rangers were out there a couple weeks back
Fat, you forgot to mention fat..
 
 Viduka would be okay if he could stay off the meat pies and chips.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2008, 01:50:00 pm
never trust an overweight footballer, i agree with that
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 06, 2008, 05:28:00 pm
United play for the double on back of £58m losses last year (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/06/manchesterunited.premierleague)
   :eek:
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Post by: vansmack on May 06, 2008, 05:42:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  United play for the double on back of ¬£58m losses last year (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/06/manchesterunited.premierleague)
    :eek:  
I guess only the treble would make the Manchester United Supporters Trust happy.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 06, 2008, 06:15:00 pm
It's interesting that for a team who "buys" success they made 11m quid profit in the transfer market!!!
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 07, 2008, 09:08:00 am
to me the interesting part is that man u made money in the transfer market and still lost money overall
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Post by: Barcelona on May 07, 2008, 11:38:00 am
Still depressed after the defeat with Manchester United, what a couple of years we have had after winning the Champions League in 2006.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 07, 2008, 04:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  to me the interesting part is that man u made money in the transfer market and still lost money overall
Interest payments on the Glazers debt they rammed down Old Traffords throats...
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 07, 2008, 05:20:00 pm
right, thats the crazy part. i believe that anderson, nani and hargreaves will be on this years books though. next years financials should be interesting
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Post by: godsshoeshine on May 08, 2008, 12:08:00 pm
is the fa cup final usually ppv?
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Post by: brennser on May 08, 2008, 12:09:00 pm
yup
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  is the fa cup final usually ppv?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 08, 2008, 12:33:00 pm
Pompei v Cardiff, that's a hell of a draw...NOT!
 
 Having said that I suppose the Champs league final won't draw much interest outside of the UK and Ireland.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 08, 2008, 12:33:00 pm
dammit, i'm going to be out of town. looks like there's one bar in pittsburgh that will have it too. haha
 
 also looks like i'm going to be in ireland for the begining of the euro knockout rounds. betting is legal there, right
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 08, 2008, 12:34:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 also looks like i'm going to be in ireland for the begining of the euro knockout rounds. betting is legal there, right
Legal??? Legal???? I think it's illegal not to!!!!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 08, 2008, 12:43:00 pm
awesome
 
 i'm going to bet first goal scorer on whoever plays in england
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 08, 2008, 02:16:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  also looks like i'm going to be in ireland for the begining of the euro knockout rounds. betting is legal there, right
Encouraged even.
 
 Which reminds me, Euro 2008 is slated for ESPN and ESPN2 and WILL be in HD.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 08, 2008, 07:27:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   Euro 2008 is slated for ESPN and ESPN2 and WILL be in HD.
FUCK YEAH
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 09, 2008, 12:23:00 pm
THE FINAL DAY
 
 Sunday, May 11
 
 The two LIVE games...
 
 10:00am Wigan vs. Manchester Utd (Set)
 10:00am Chelsea vs. Bolton (FSC)
 
 And all the rest tape delayed...
 
 12:00pm Everton vs. Newcastle (FSC)
 12:30pm Portsmouth vs. Fulham (SDC)
 2:15pm Birmingham City vs. Blackburn (SDC)
 4:00pm Derby County vs. Reading (SDC)
 6:30pm Middlesbrough vs. Manchester City (FSC)  
 7:00pm Tottenham vs. Liverpool (FSC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 09, 2008, 02:09:00 pm
stupid setanta with their score updates. i'll have to watch chelzzzz if i'm around
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 09, 2008, 03:40:00 pm
Which do you think will be the most boring
 
 Derby v Reading
 
 or
 
 Chelskzzz v Bolton
 
 ?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 09, 2008, 03:46:00 pm
eh, id say bolton/chelski. derby/reading could be 5-4. both are shocking at the back
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 09, 2008, 04:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  Chelskzzz v Bolton
 
If only Bolton hadn't escaped relegation....
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 09, 2008, 04:38:00 pm
i just hope fulham stay up
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 09, 2008, 05:51:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i just hope fulham stay up
Why?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 09, 2008, 05:52:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  Why?
The US National team can use the practice against decent competition.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 09, 2008, 06:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  Why?
The US National team can use the practice against decent competition. [/b]
;)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 11, 2008, 10:23:00 pm
I shall sleep well tonight...and comment in the morning.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 12, 2008, 09:00:00 am
i wouldnt be bothered too much either way, but man u winning the league is preferable. good show for them, terry getting injured had to be a bonus
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  Why?
The US National team can use the practice against decent competition. [/b]
they might even be in europe.   :eek:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 12, 2008, 09:51:00 am
well I for one am very happy - another well deserved title - no one can argue that we didn;t play the most attractive football over the course of the year
 
 10 titles in 16 seasons is an astonishing achievement for SAF
 
 another important number
 
 17.....total number of league championships we have now won.....one more and Liverscum lose yet another one of their fading pretensions to greatness
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 12, 2008, 11:11:00 am
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44645000/jpg/_44645985_giggs_ap.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 12, 2008, 12:50:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
   no one can argue that we didn;t play the most attractive football over the course of the year
As evidenced by being up 0-1 and still keeping the foot on the pedal to get that second goal.  Chelski would never have done that, and that's how you draw 1-1.  Good for Ryan Giggs too - his contributions were very under the radar this year with the attention going to the three kids up front.
 
 John Terry got hurt?  Didn't even notice....
 
 What I did notice is that the Champions League final appeared in my guide over the weekend as being in HD. Sweet.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 12, 2008, 12:53:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i just hope fulham stay up
Amazing huh?  Brian McBride's contributions will never be recognized as they should, but his return saved that season for Fulham.  5 straight wins, 3 on the road!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 13, 2008, 02:27:00 pm
Don't forget to cancel Setanta until August 10.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 13, 2008, 03:10:00 pm
mcbride was amazing, he has to come back now. i thought for sure he'd be in mls next year
 
 and dempsey was awfully good for them during the season too. i think he's proved a little
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 22, 2008, 08:49:00 am
what?? ARe SMackie and Mankie still drunk??  :)
 
 I tell ya - yesterday was one of the longest days of my life - stuck in jury selection all day getting updates on my phones - get out just as extra timeis starting - get home just as ronnie misses the penalty - basically think we're fucked - and then boom, we're CHampions of Europe again!!!
 
  <img src="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/05/21/sports/21soccer.1.190.jpg" alt=" - " />
  <img src="http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/05/21/UtdplayersEPAYURI_KOCHETKOV2.jpg" alt=" - " />   <img src="http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/05/22/JohnTerryPAMartinRickett3.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 22, 2008, 08:53:00 am
hahaha...terrydrogbaanelka so funny
 
 about 88 minutes in i realized that i didnt record the program after. thanks for replaying it espn 2
 
 i actually thought smackie might be in moscow
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 22, 2008, 09:48:00 am
I guess Chelskzzz are ESPN's babies...not once during regulation did they show the United supporters but we had the Moscovites who were most certainly coerced into the stadium wearing blue and white were rammed down our throats about every 5 minutes or so.
 
 The commentators must've been watching a different game than I was because you'd think chelskzz were playing a bunch of trash cans spread about the field. REALITY CHECK...United dominated the first half, chelskzzz the second and United extra time. The game could've gone either way but the best team in Europe over the course of the competition won the final..
 
 When Anelka walked up to take the penalty I said to my wife "we've won" You could see on his face and from his body language he had no confidence in taking that kick. As for Terry.. HA HA YOU FUCKING PRICK!!! No sympathy here because he's nothing short of a thug. Did Becks get any sympathy when he slipped taking a pk during the world cup???
 
 I lost totaly respect for Joe Cole..what a fucking cry-baby. I used to think he was the exception at Stamford Bridge but it looks like it wore off on him.
 
 MANCHESTER UNITED, CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE 2008{b]
 
 I believe if you go on ebay there's a Stamford Bridge trophy cabinet up for auction.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 22, 2008, 11:09:00 am
Congratulations to Manchester United, the best team in Europe this year, no doubt. As usual, every time Manchester United is there you have a great final, the one yesterday reminded me of the 1999 final against Bayern Munich. I just hope we have a chance to play Manchester United next year in the Champions League.
 
 With games like this, I confirm my preference for the Champions League over any other tournament, I am quite sure the Euro this coming month won't have games like this one.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2008, 12:53:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  what?? ARe SMackie and Mankie still drunk??   :)  
 
I am.  Rough day at work today.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2008, 12:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 
 i actually thought smackie might be in moscow
No no.  Smackette graduated on Monday and I had to be in Sacramento on Tuesday and Wednesday so I wasn't able to go.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on May 23, 2008, 02:12:00 pm
Thanks for the reference to Barcelona and very appropriate reference to Franco when talking about Real Madrid! Alex, you are the best.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7416981.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7416981.stm)
 
 Ferguson slams Real over Ronaldo  
 
 Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has accused Real Madrid of lacking morals in their pursuit of Cristiano Ronaldo.
 
 Real coach Bernd Schuster and president Ramon Calderon have both expressed a desire to see Ronaldo at The Bernabeu.
 
 Ferguson, fresh from United's Champions League truimph, said: "Schuster's talking and Calderon's talking.
 
 "Real think they can ride roughshod over everyone, but they won't do it with us. They have no moral issues."
 
 And Ferguson drew a comparison with Real's fierce rivals Barcelona as he fought to draw a line under continuing speculation surrounding the 23-year-old Portuguese winger's future.
 
 He said: "In terms of great clubs, Barcelona have far better morality than Real Madrid will ever have. Real use this Marca newspaper as a vehicle to unsettle players.
 
 "Do you not think we have had many expressions of interest about our players from big clubs in Europe?
 
 "Real Madrid are not the only club interested in Ronaldo. But the others are not saying so. They don't get into this nonsense.
 
 "Calderon makes that great statement 'slavery was abolished many years ago'. Did they tell General Franco that? Give me a break.
 
 "The simple fact is Cristiano has another four years left on his contract."
 
 United have sold David Beckham, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Gabriel Heinze to Real in recent years, but Ferguson insisted the case of Ronaldo was different.
 
 He said: "Yes, we sold them Van Nistelrooy and Beckham but we did that because we wanted to."
 
 And Argentine defender Heinze was transferred to Real last summer after failing in a public battle to secure a move to United's arch-rivals Liverpool.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 23, 2008, 02:15:00 pm
The Franco line is GREAT!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 23, 2008, 02:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by brennser:
  what?? ARe SMackie and Mankie still drunk??     :)    
 
I am.  Rough day at work today. [/b]
I've sobered up but not come down yet!!!!
 
 There's one other minor point about Real Madrid and Man Utd....we sold the other's because they were approaching 'has been' status. Maybe in about 8 years or so we'll offload Ronaldo to them.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 23, 2008, 04:19:00 pm
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Originally posted by brennser:
      <img src="http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/05/22/JohnTerryPAMartinRickett3.jpg" alt=" - " />
Sorry, I just had to see it again. It gives me such a happy feeling inside.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 23, 2008, 04:59:00 pm
Simply Red singer and Manchester United fanatic Mick Hucknall was reluctantly dragged away from watching the Champions League final penalty shoot-out by concert organisers at a charity function he was performing at. (Daily Express)
 
 
 Like they say, you can take the man out of manc...........
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 23, 2008, 05:49:00 pm
EURO 2008 US BROADCAST SCHEDULE
 
 Saturday, June 7, 2008
 
 12:00 PM UK Switzerland  v  Czech Republic (ESPN Classic)
 2:45 PM UK Portugal  v  Turkey (ESPN Classic)
 
 Sunday, June 8, 2008
 
 12:00 PM UK Austria  v  Croatia (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Germany  v  Poland  (ESPN2)
 
 Monday, June 9, 2008
   
 12:00 PM UK Romania  v  France  (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Netherlands  v  Italy (ESPN2)
 
 Tuesday, June 10, 2008
   
 12:00 PM UK Spain  v  Russia   (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Greece  v  Sweden  (ESPN2)
 
 Wednesday, June 11, 2008
 
 12:00 PM UK Czech Republic  v  Portugal (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Switzerland  v  Turkey   (ESPN2)
 
 Thursday, June 12, 2008
 
 12:00 PM UK Croatia  v  Germany (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Austria  v  Poland  (ESPN2)
 
 Friday, June 13, 2008
   
 12:00 PM UK Italy  v  Romania (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Netherlands  v  France  (ESPN2)
 
 Saturday, June 14, 2008
 
 12:00 PM UK Sweden  v  Spain (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Greece  v  Russia  (ESPN2)
 
 Sunday, June 15, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK Turkey  v  Czech Republic  (ESPN2)
 2:45 PM UK Switzerland  v  Portugal (ESPN2)
 
 Monday, June 16, 2008
   
 2:45 PM UK Poland  v  Croatia (ESPN Classic)
 2:45 PM UK Austria  v  Germany  (ESPN)
 
 Tuesday, June 17, 2008
   
 2:45 PM UK France  v  Italy (ESPN Classic)
 2:45 PM UK Netherlands  v  Romania (ESPN)
 
 Wednesday, June 18, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK Russia  v  Sweden (ESPN)
 2:45 PM UK Greece  v  Spain (ESPN2)
 
 Thursday, June 19, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK Winner   v  Runner-up  Quarter-finals  (ESPN)
 
 Friday, June 20, 2008
 
  2:45 PM UK Winner   v  Runner-up  Quarter-finals  (ESPN)
 
 Saturday, June 21, 2008
 
  2:45 PM UK Winner   v  Runner-up  Quarter-finals  (ABC)
 
 Sunday, June 22, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK Winner   v  Runner-up  Quarter-finals  (ESPN)
 
 Wednesday, June 25, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK W25  v  W26 Semi-finals  (ESPN)
 
 Thursday, June 26, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK W27  v  W28 Semi-finals  (ESPN2)
 
 Sunday, June 29, 2008
 
 2:45 PM UK W29  v  W30 Final (ABC)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 24, 2008, 05:04:00 pm
What a  great week it's been for old mank!!!   :D  
 
 
  <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44687000/jpg/_44687321_munstertrophybody.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 
 Munster became kings of Europe for a second time as a ferociously committed display saw them edge past Toulouse in the Heineken Cup final in Cardiff.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on May 24, 2008, 07:01:00 pm
and chelski just shitcanned grant!
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  What a  great week it's been for old mank!!!    :D  
 
 
   <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44687000/jpg/_44687321_munstertrophybody.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 
 Munster became kings of Europe for a second time as a ferociously committed display saw them edge past Toulouse in the Heineken Cup final in Cardiff.
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 25, 2008, 11:54:00 am
<img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44688000/jpg/_44688079_terry226x282.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 I decided to open the dealership this weekend because the month has been a little slow so obvioucly not too happy....but this cheered me up no end!!!
 
 
 BTW, has there been a better week for a manc this week??
    <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44687000/jpg/_44687418_hatton_belt_270_ap.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 Hatton retains title on home turf
 
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/7415140.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/7415140.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 25, 2008, 12:02:00 pm
Barcelona striker Thierry Henry was set to join Manchester United for £10m until the Spanish side's new boss Pep Guardiola blocked the move two weeks ago.
 
 
 WOW!!! I would bring him to Old Trafford in a heartbeat. As much as I hate arseholes I considered Henry a great player and decent bloke. Even during the UTD v Barca tie he was the only one who actually took a shot rather than try to dribble the ball over the line.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 27, 2008, 02:35:00 pm
Wednesday May 28, 2008
 
 2:50PM Intl Friendly: England vs. US (ESPN Classic)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 27, 2008, 04:02:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Wednesday May 28, 2008
 
 2:50PM Intl Friendly: England vs. US (ESPN Classic)
Predictions??
 
 I'd say this game has a draw written all over it. The doodles are just getting their season going so still ironing out the bugs and the brits just wrapped up so the last thing they want to do is play a pointless friendly. ALthough I just thought, how many doodles play for their club teams in the US? If they played the game at Craven Cottage the US could've walked to the ground.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 27, 2008, 05:38:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
 Predictions??
3-0 England.  Maybe 4.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 27, 2008, 07:23:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  What a  great week it's been for old mank!!!    :D  
 
 
   <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44687000/jpg/_44687321_munstertrophybody.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 
 Munster became kings of Europe for a second time as a ferociously committed display saw them edge past Toulouse in the Heineken Cup final in Cardiff.
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm)
so people will likely still be happy about this in 4 weeks or so in the province?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 28, 2008, 02:37:00 pm
Dear Football Fan,
 
 Are you up to the challenge?
 
 Your friend Smackie has already entered the fantastic FREE TO PLAY ESPNsoccernet Euro Fantasy competition and thinks that they have selected a much better team than you could ever manage!
 
 What do you reckon? Are they having a laugh? Can you prove yourself a better manager?
 
 We thought so...
 
 Here's what to do - click the link below to get started:
 
 1: Go to http://euro2008fantasy.soccernet.com/ (http://euro2008fantasy.soccernet.com/)
 
 2: Click on Register and go through the registration and team selection process - it's totally free to play
 
 3: Once you are on your team line-up page click on Mini League and type the following information in the Join A Mini League boxes:
 
 League Name: 1105hb
 Password: 9696075
 
 You should now be ready to compete with and hopefully beat Smackie!
 
 ESPNsoccernet Fantasy Games HQ
 http://euro2008fantasy.soccernet.com/ (http://euro2008fantasy.soccernet.com/)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 28, 2008, 02:44:00 pm
First Bocanegra (who will find a new Premiership team) and now McBride....
 
 McBride set to leave Fulham (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=540312&cc=5739&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)
 By Jeff Bradley
 
 Updated: May 28, 2008, 6:03 PM UK
 
 Longtime U.S. striker Brian McBride has told ESPN soccer analyst John Harkes that he will be leaving Fulham Football Club after five seasons with the London-based team.
 
 "Brian told me that he believes he has a lot of good soccer left in him," said Harkes, "but it will not be with Fulham. He also said he's leaving the club on excellent terms."
 
 McBride, 36, grew up in Arlington Heights, Ill., and played eight seasons in MLS for the Columbus Crew, who selected him first overall in the league's inaugural draft in 1996. It has been rumored that McBride could be returning to MLS to play for the Chicago Fire, but Harkes said that McBride has not made any decisions about where he'll be playing next season.
 
 McBride, who represented the U.S. in the last three World Cups and scored memorable goals in American triumphs over Portugal and Mexico in 2002, leaves Fulham having scored 32 goals in the English Premier League.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on May 28, 2008, 06:34:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
 Predictions??
3-0 England.  Maybe 4. [/b]
But for Becks quick kicking the free kick I would have been spot on.
 
 With just Landon up front I thought the US would struggle to score.  Without Landon and Altidore, I knew there was no chance.  Altidore is the future of US Soccer.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 29, 2008, 08:30:00 am
there were (however weak) links going around between altidore and bradley and toon this past weekend
 
 wont happen, but got me a little excited
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2008, 12:38:00 pm
Mourinho takes charge at Inter Milan (http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SPORT/football/06/02/inter.mournnho/?iref=hpmostpop)
 
 I've rarely seen a better marriage.  He's perfect for the boring, diving, crying Italian game...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2008, 12:49:00 pm
i dont know, everyone is pretty well dressed there, he wont be as special
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2008, 02:13:00 pm
supposedly ole sicknote duff is moving on from the toon, and his house is up for sale. now, the hottest rumor is scumderland, so i dont know why he'd move, and nothing about this is very interesting EXCEPT, here is the apparent listing:
  http://www.sandersonyoung.co.uk/buy/view.aspx?pr=9054 (http://www.sandersonyoung.co.uk/buy/view.aspx?pr=9054)
 awesome bathrooms
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2008, 02:28:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   now, the hottest rumor is scumderland, so i dont know why he'd move
'Cause he loves Roy Keane.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2008, 02:31:00 pm
i worded that poorly. if he plays for sunderland, he could continue to live in the same house
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2008, 02:43:00 pm
Wednesday, June 4, 2008
 
 4:00pm Spain vs. United States (ESPN360.com)
 
 5:30pm Tape Delayed broadcast ESPN2
 
 
 We would struggle to score with Landon, no chance without.  3-0 Spain.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2008, 02:50:00 pm
why schedule these friendlies and then not call up any forwards? i guess the answer is go to europe and then get capped more often
 
 but still
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2008, 03:08:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  the toon
Newcastle have confirmed they have agreed terms with Fenerbahce for the transfer of Emre Belozoglu.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 02, 2008, 03:20:00 pm
yeah, its been close for a few days now. the reports differ on the fee, but supposedly its going to be a profit. how, i dont know
 
 he's on ¬£55k a week and always injured. not a huge loss if replaced. ditto duff, who i hear is paid ¬£70k a week. at least duff didnt get accused of dropping the nbomb three seperate times
 
 of course the troubling issue would be villa beating down the doors for milner and zogs wanting away
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Post by: vansmack on June 02, 2008, 05:33:00 pm
Ouch.
 
 Cannavaro out for Italy (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=541895&cc=5739)
 
  <img src="http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/JonMC/May2008/fabbio412.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: ChampionshipVinyl on June 03, 2008, 07:50:00 pm
EURO 2008 predictions?
 Surprises?
 Who are you supporting?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 03, 2008, 08:15:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by ChampionshipVinyl:
  EURO 2008 predictions?
 Surprises?
 Who are you supporting?
With England out, I'm rooting for the Dutch.
 
 I think the Portuguese and the Germans are going to be tough to beat in A & B and Spain vs. whomever gets out of group C alive in the other semi.
 
 I think the Portuguese win it all.
 
 And I think Greece and Poland will surprise some people.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 04, 2008, 08:39:00 am
with ireland and england not making it, and both newcastle players involved likely on the way out, i guess i have to support italy, although i guess i'm rooting for the beauty of the game more than anything
 
 i think croatia and turkey have fighting chances to surprise a few people
 
 i'll go germany over croatia, and italy over spain with germany winning
 
 i'll go with france to disappoint, just because
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 05, 2008, 10:33:00 am
altidore to villarreal: http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/06/altidore-sold-t.html (http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2008/06/altidore-sold-t.html)
 good move for him i guess
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 10, 2008, 08:41:00 am
nobody wants to talk about the italians getting throttled yesterday?
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Post by: Barcelona on June 10, 2008, 08:50:00 am
So far awful games as usual, but great to see Italy losing like this.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 10, 2008, 12:29:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  nobody wants to talk about the italians getting throttled yesterday?
I can talk about the Dutch all day long.  They looked amazing.  But yes, as Barcelona points out, the first couple of days haven't been the most exciting.  Part of that is two crappy host countries (although the Austrians were surprisingly strong going forward).  They wouldn't normally be in this tournament.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 10, 2008, 12:35:00 pm
the swiss might have made it to be fair. but they would have been better off playing qualifying matches the past two years though
 
 i think the inevitable van der vaart to toon rumor was floated this past weekend. the english rumor factory loves to torture us magpie supporters this time of the year. he's exactly what we need  :(
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 10, 2008, 12:54:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  the swiss might have made it to be fair. but they would have been better off playing qualifying matches the past two years though
 
 
Sorry, yes, you are correct.  The swiss had a shot.  I was referring to Austria, but not very clearly.  But, without Frei, the Swiss might not score the whole tournament.  Or the world can finally meet Derdiyok. I'm going to enjoy watching Derdiyok, who could very well end up at Toon if he has a decent showing, or Arsenal if he has a great showing.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 10, 2008, 01:00:00 pm
yeah, he's been in the press. actually, i was going to make my team the all toon target team in the fantasy league. supposedly team ash has made a real bid for gomis, though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 12, 2008, 09:50:00 am
stupid soccernet with their flash site. i totally remembered to drop emre for turan and then forgot once i got home tuesday. also, stupid work computer for not having flash
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 13, 2008, 11:48:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i worded that poorly. if he plays for sunderland, he could continue to live in the same house
No he won't...if he moves from Toon to the mackem's he'll have to go into the police protective program.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 13, 2008, 11:51:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  What a  great week it's been for old mank!!!     :D    
 
 
    <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44687000/jpg/_44687321_munstertrophybody.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 
 Munster became kings of Europe for a second time as a ferociously committed display saw them edge past Toulouse in the Heineken Cup final in Cardiff.
 
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm)  
so people will likely still be happy about this in 4 weeks or so in the province? [/b]
I would think so...in Munster they still talk about the day they beat the All Blacks like it was yesterday....only it happened in 1978
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 13, 2008, 11:56:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  i worded that poorly. if he plays for sunderland, he could continue to live in the same house
No he won't...if he moves from Toon to the mackem's he'll have to go into the police protective program. [/b]
most times yes, but toon supporters would be over the moon if we get actual money back for him. guy hardly plays
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 13, 2008, 02:01:00 pm
So let me get this straight.
 
 Scolari tells Ronaldo to go to Real because it's good for Cristiano.
 
 Scolari then denies Ferguson access to Portugal's camp to talk to Ronaldo.
 
 Scolari then accepts the Chelsea coaching job.
 
 Nice.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 13, 2008, 02:09:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  So let me get this straight.
 
 Scolari tells Ronaldo to go to Real because it's good for Cristiano.
 
 Scolari then denies Ferguson access to Portugal's camp to talk to Ronaldo.
 
 Scolari then accepts the Chelsea coaching job.
 
 Nice.
Forgive me for stating the obvious, but Dr. Phil Scolari knows Ronaldo would never move to a small club like Chelskzzzzzz so is trying to get him out of the premiership.
 
 I say if Real poney up enough dough (100mil+) we sell him and buy a whole new crew of players. No one player is bigger than the team. United won shitloads of trophies before him and we'll win a shitload more without him.
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Post by: vansmack on June 13, 2008, 02:13:00 pm
Couldn't agree more, sir.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 13, 2008, 02:20:00 pm
well the whole chris fiasco stinks to high heaven, but its kind of funny to see man u say 'fuck off we dont want your £100 million' and liverpool struggle to buy james milner
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 13, 2008, 02:43:00 pm
<img src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:6DcAaWRVxLBJuM:http://bp3.blogger.com/_Dk0Tg6RNMog/RgsE9xnf5SI/AAAAAAAAAAo/MBBLrXWLZM0/s320/scolari.jpg" alt=" - " />
 Hear no
 
  <img src="http://www.bergproperties.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/dr-phil-i.jpg" alt=" - " />
 Speak no
 
  <img src="http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:DIrVwOGlOM4BIM:http://eur.i1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/premiere_photo/20050906/13/3935408947.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 see no
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Post by: vansmack on June 14, 2008, 12:43:00 pm
HOP HOLLAND!!!!
 
  <img src="http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/DJ/20080607/ned_JohannesSimon2.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 14, 2008, 02:48:00 pm
I would have no problem with the netherlands throwing the game to Croatia and so eliminating both Italy and France. Maybe they should try really hard but just wear clogs.
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Post by: vansmack on June 16, 2008, 12:30:00 pm
The Turkey/Czech match yesterday was nothing short of incredible.  My favorite game of the tourney so far.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 16, 2008, 12:44:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 i think croatia and turkey have fighting chances to surprise a few people
 
i'm pretty close to being right here (for once)
 
 of course i took turkey because the toons hot after turan and i guess the price is skyrocketing  :(
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Post by: vansmack on June 16, 2008, 01:06:00 pm
Hey, United start their title defense at home vs. the Toon on Aug 16.
 
 More United fixtures. (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={34009B66-8C50-42F4-816F-CE57868EDE49}&page=1)
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 16, 2008, 01:21:00 pm
at man u and at arsenal 2 of the first three fixtures. fantastic
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 17, 2008, 12:20:00 pm
Man Utd have EPL away games after every single CL qualifying round game.
 
 Yet more evidence that the FA is not London biased........  :roll:
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 17, 2008, 01:06:00 pm
What did you expect after three of the four CL finalists were English squads?
 
 BTW, who won the Champions League this year anyway?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 17, 2008, 06:39:00 pm
Don't remember...but don't they play in red and NOT FUCKING SCOUSERS!!!!!
 
   :D
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 18, 2008, 08:16:00 am
chelsea? i think they were the only ones in the last 4 that dont play in red   :p
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 18, 2008, 09:36:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  chelsea? i think they were the only ones in the last 4 that dont play in red    :p  
I said "don't they play in red" not "they don't play in red"
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Post by: godsshoeshine on June 18, 2008, 09:40:00 am
haha, sorry about that
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Post by: vansmack on June 20, 2008, 02:00:00 pm
This is long, but funny
 
 http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3701301,00.html (http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3701301,00.html)
 
 http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3705608,00.html (http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3705608,00.html)
 
 http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3709851,00.html (http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3709851,00.html)
 
 http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3713770,00.html (http://football365.com/story/0,17033,13297_3713770,00.html)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 25, 2008, 03:25:00 pm
So I'm not actually watching the Semifinal right now (meetings) and will not be checking back with this thread until after I do....
 
 But before I forget...I was listening to World Soccer Daily this morning and the guest, who is also a Fox analyst, said he told his boss how much he loves watching the Euro in HD.  
 
 His boss replied that there was no way FSC would have HD Soccer next year.
 
   :confused:
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Post by: vansmack on June 26, 2008, 02:02:00 pm
He gets a lot of the soccer players wrong, but this would have been a good time....
 
 http://www.stopmikelupica.com/2008/06/steve_nash_baron_davis_and_jas.php (http://www.stopmikelupica.com/2008/06/steve_nash_baron_davis_and_jas.php)
 
 Says my buddy...
 
 "This might have been the coolest spur of the moment on the streets of NYC things that I've done since I've been here.  Even if it was like 5 deep and I had to stand on my tiptoes the whole time......Pretty damn cool."
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 27, 2008, 11:01:00 am
So I hope all the neutrals like myself will be behind Spain....I couldn't take it if the friggin krauts won.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 27, 2008, 11:57:00 am
Well, normally in neutral matches where I don't have a preference, I employ the "Where were you in WWII?" corollary.
 
 For example, yesterday I was nearly alone in cheering for Russia.  When asked why I was rooting for the Commies, I replied, "where were they in WWII?"
 
 Now I'm not saying the Soviet's were saints, especially in the Baltics up through 1942, but even Hitler didn't think enough of them and their allegiance and by the time the Germans invaded Russia, the Soviet's were firmly in the Allies camp.  Couldn't say the same for Spain.
 
 Now, when it comes to two Axis powers, I usually root for broken legs (I even vowed to boycott a Germany/Italy final).  Spain, being the weakest of the Axis powers, and driven more by Franco than the Spanish people at the time, get a small reprieve.
 
 Therefore, I'm pulling for Spain tomorrow, somewhat begrudgingly.
 
 That being said, I think the krauts win 3-2.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 27, 2008, 03:06:00 pm
I agree with your way of thinking but come to the same conclusion from a much simpler logic.
 
 There were no spanish bombs that landed on me granny's house!!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on June 27, 2008, 04:50:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Well, normally in neutral matches where I don't have a preference, I employ the "Where were you in WWII?" corollary.
 
 For example, yesterday I was nearly alone in cheering for Russia.  When asked why I was rooting for the Commies, I replied, "where were they in WWII?"
 
 Now I'm not saying the Soviet's were saints, especially in the Baltics up through 1942, but even Hitler didn't think enough of them and their allegiance and by the time the Germans invaded Russia, the Soviet's were firmly in the Allies camp.  Couldn't say the same for Spain.
 
 Now, when it comes to two Axis powers, I usually root for broken legs (I even vowed to boycott a Germany/Italy final).  Spain, being the weakest of the Axis powers, and driven more by Franco than the Spanish people at the time, get a small reprieve.
 
 Therefore, I'm pulling for Spain tomorrow, somewhat begrudgingly.
 
 That being said, I think the krauts win 3-2.
Can we apply this logic to the next world cup when the USA plays but change from WWII to the Irak invasion or to the involvement of the USA in latin america from the 50s to the 80s?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 27, 2008, 04:54:00 pm
No need to..everyone hates the yanks anyway.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 27, 2008, 04:59:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  No need to..everyone hates the yanks anyway.
Exactly.  I would be shocked if anyone outside of the States roots for the Americans.  And not because of foreign policy - mostly because their brand of football is shit.
 
 Nonetheless, you can employ whatever theory you'd like to choose how NOT to root for the US.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 30, 2008, 08:42:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  What a  great week it's been for old mank!!!      :D    
 
 
     <img src="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44687000/jpg/_44687321_munstertrophybody.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 
 Munster became kings of Europe for a second time as a ferociously committed display saw them edge past Toulouse in the Heineken Cup final in Cardiff.
 
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/7408444.stm)  
so people will likely still be happy about this in 4 weeks or so in the province? [/b]
I would think so...in Munster they still talk about the day they beat the All Blacks like it was yesterday....only it happened in 1978 [/b]
ok, the answer here was a resounding YES. i saw more munster rugby flags in west cork than ireland flags. i think i'm going to have to watch some matches next season. might have to check out the gaas as well. hurling and football are both pretty crazy
 
 i usually root for whatever side looks more awesome singing their national anthem. i was too jet lagged to root hard yesterday, and i gave spain a break due to the 30 or so spain supporters running through the streets of dublin at 2 am after beating italy, all wearing their red tops. that was awesome
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on June 30, 2008, 09:12:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Well, normally in neutral matches where I don't have a preference, I employ the "Where were you in WWII?" corollary.
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  I agree with your way of thinking but come to the same conclusion from a much simpler logic.
 
 There were no spanish bombs that landed on me granny's house!!
seriously?  that kind of thinking seems... antiquated.  i guess you need some mechanism to choose a side.  personally, if i don't have a horse in the race, i don't worry too much about rooting for a team and instead hope/cheer for a good game.  i will admit that being surrounded by fans might sway my cheering, positively or negatively depending on their behavior.
 
   
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 i usually root for whatever side looks more awesome singing their national anthem. i was too jet lagged to root hard yesterday, and i gave spain a break due to the 30 or so spain supporters running through the streets of dublin at 2 am after beating italy, all wearing their red tops. that was awesome
uh, i'm assuming that's the jetlag still talking?  either that, or spain was playing a second match yesterday that was completely overshadowed by spain vs. germany... or maybe you're talking another sport?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 30, 2008, 09:15:00 am
they played italy last sunday
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 30, 2008, 10:03:00 am
Well, the better team clearly won. Germany didn't even show up, although I missed the first 10 minutes which were all kraut from what the commentators were saying....Besides I hate both Lehman and Ballack, typical arrogant German BRATwursts, so congratulations to Spain.
 
 I also must admit to being able to enjoy watching a tournament and not have to suffer watching my own country going out on a penalty shoot-out.
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Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2008, 11:57:00 am
Boring, uninspired 90 minutes, but congrats to Spain, who clearly deserved to win.  I too am thankful it didn't go to PK's.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on June 30, 2008, 12:04:00 pm
joey barton pleads guilty:
 http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/30/sports/EU-SPT-SOC-Barton-Assault.php (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/30/sports/EU-SPT-SOC-Barton-Assault.php)
 rumor is that means we get our transfer fee back. see ya, joe
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 30, 2008, 12:38:00 pm
You know I saw that this morning bit didn't think it was worth posting....I forgot we had a toonie on the board.
 
 For the good of professional football I hope his next team is called "The Dog and Duck" or some other merseyside pub team.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2008, 05:04:00 pm
Euro over.  
 
 Transfer period begins.
 
 Chelsea sign Deco from Barca (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jun/30/chelsea.barcelona)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 30, 2008, 05:24:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  Euro over.  
 
 Transfer period begins.
 
 Chelsea sign Deco from Barca (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jun/30/chelsea.barcelona)
Yet more proof they have no interest in the long-term development of a team buying an aging player like that. He just wants to buy the CL then he'll go do something else.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2008, 05:31:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  then he'll go do something else.
Like coach the US?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on June 30, 2008, 05:58:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  then he'll go do something else.
Like coach the US? [/b]
I was talking more about the russian.
 
 Dr. Phil's credentials don't impress me. I could coach Brasil to a world cup and how much silverware did he bring to Portugal?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2008, 06:05:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by 47 YEAR OLD VIRGIN:
  I was talking more about the russian.
 
Oh.  I see.
 
 I'd prefer Huddink over Scolari anyway, but I'll take either for the US.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Barcelona on June 30, 2008, 08:20:00 pm
the winner of this Euro was Cruyff. The midfield of Spain was made out of players (Xavi, Iniesta, Cesc) that grew up seeing Barcelona playing in the nineties, passing the ball all the time, even short passes in the corner kicks (sometimes even going back to the goalkeeper to start a new play). glad for Spain, although far from buying the red t-shirt and celebrating all night long.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 01, 2008, 10:03:00 am
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
  , passing the ball all the time, even short passes in the corner kicks (sometimes even going back to the goalkeeper to start a new play).
They could also have been watching Manchester United these past few years, so I don't think 90's Barca are exclusive to that style. And to a lesser degree Arsenal, but they take it too far by trying to pass the ball all the way into the goal. Long-ball teams like Chelski will always get outplayed in the longrun.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 01, 2008, 10:34:00 am
hopefully the english national team has been watching manusa and le arse the past few years then. they could learn a thing or two
 
 luckily i did see many manchester united posters in ireland, so maybe things are looking up there
 
 however both have italian managers, so maybe euro '12
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 01, 2008, 11:16:00 am
Quote
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  hopefully the english national team has been watching manusa and le arse the past few years then. they could learn a thing or two
 
 luckily i did see many manchester united posters in ireland, so maybe things are looking up there
 
 however both have italian managers, so maybe euro '12
The Irish love the EPL...just not the English!
 
 The big teams in Ireland are ManU, Liverpool and probably these days Sunderland. Chelski are johnny-come-latelys. Arseholes have a so-so following. Leeds have a bit of a following too.
 
 As for the English national team, you'll never get a bite out of me beacause I happen to agree they're they biggest underachievers in international footie.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: brennser on July 01, 2008, 11:46:00 am
the Irish have always been big supporters of the English and Scottish leagues, mainly because all our good players end up there....after a brief childhood flirtation with Notts Forest I formally switched by allegiance to Man U in 1981 when they signed Frank Stapelton from Arsenal for the then princely sun 900,000 pounds and a starting salary of 2 grand a week!
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 01, 2008, 12:08:00 pm
Slight correction there mate...the EPL and Glasgow Celtic.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 01, 2008, 12:11:00 pm
yeah, i saw mostly manchester united and liverpool gear over there. i saw one guy in an everton shirt, but that was about it
 
 for a relatively small country, they have tons and tons of sports, though
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 01, 2008, 12:15:00 pm
oh yeah, and roy was definitely in cork scouting city players for scumderland while we were over there
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 01, 2008, 12:22:00 pm
Magpies to discuss Barton future
 
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7483629.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7483629.stm)
 
 Lets face it...if there's a player out there who actually wants to play for the Toon you have to consider him.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 01, 2008, 12:35:00 pm
i believe with the suspended sentence, newcastle does not get the fee back. now the choice is sack him and get nothing back (and risk him turning it around), or keep him (hopefully at a reduced wage). so i guess we're stuck with ole joey, which is kind of a bummer
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 02, 2008, 08:32:00 am
toon sign jonas gutierrez. guess thats the end of milner?
 http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=760063 (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=760063)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 11, 2008, 01:45:00 pm
Come on lads, lets keep this thread alive. It was all the way back to page three!!!
 
 Ronaldo - anybody care if he stays or goes at this point? I certainly don't.
 
 (Question for United fans of course, I know toonheads don't care)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 11, 2008, 01:47:00 pm
NOT TRUE
 
 i almost bumped this today to post this: http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=769733 (http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=769733)
 
 but seriously, saf cant let this go on, can he
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 11, 2008, 01:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
  Ronaldo - anybody care if he stays or goes at this point? I certainly don't.
 
 (Question for United fans of course, I know toonheads don't care)
I don't care if goes or not either, but he is the most well paid "slave" I've ever seen.  
 
 Go if you want, just go soon so we can spread the new found resources around.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on July 11, 2008, 01:55:00 pm
thats the problem though. when you have a big fish on the hook, you bleed them dry. manu have to get silly money from real, because the glazers didnt spend all that (borrowed) money to buy the second biggest club in the world. i really think that ronny got a little too billy big boots and overplayed his hand here. england really holds the clout over the club game at this point at least and real has less of play here than they would have even a couple years ago
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 11, 2008, 02:32:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
    england really holds the clout over the club game at this point at least and real has less of play here than they would have even a couple years ago
Beckham offered the same advice.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 11, 2008, 02:44:00 pm
i dont think £80 million even does it. when you come out and say 'i want a player on a team that doesnt need any money, but money is not an issue' your hand is shown. i bet the glazers (and sir alex) go for the nine digits.
 
 would you be interested (from a supporters view) in robinho as partial payment?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 11, 2008, 03:13:00 pm
I would demand 100million quid in a certified check...not this deferred payment b.s. Shove the little prick out the door and have him phone for his own taxi to the airport.
 
 Then buy a handful of quality players who will compliment Rooney, who, without a doubt is a better (team) player than Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a show-pony. Just think how many more goals United would have tallied had he passed to the wide open player rather than shoot it into the side netting himself.
 
 Mark my words, if he goes, like RVN we won't miss him much. It took us a good two seasons to get over Beckham leaving and he didn't score too many goals himself.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 15, 2008, 12:53:00 am
United Agree Fee on Berbatov? (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=555242&sec=england&cc=5739)
 
 I'm still hoping we go Dutch:  Huntelaar, Schneider, or Van Der Vaart.  I would love Schneider...
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: sweetcell on July 15, 2008, 02:44:00 am
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Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
 Ronaldo - anybody care if he stays or goes at this point? I certainly don't.
question is: could ronal-dough come back if he wanted to? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1034984/Ronal-dough-boy-Fading-Brazil-star-piles-pounds-injury-lay-off.html)
 
 
  <img src="http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/07/14/article-1034984-01F2194200000578-887_468x891.jpg" alt=" - " />  
 
   <img src="http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/07/14/article-1034984-01F21DAF00000578-881_468x562.jpg" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 15, 2008, 08:47:00 am
there's no wc this year and he plays in italy...so meh
 
 
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
  United Agree Fee on Berbatov? (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=555242&sec=england&cc=5739)
 
 I'm still hoping we go Dutch:  Huntelaar, Schneider, or Van Der Vaart.  I would love Schneider...
schneider would be a candidate to move, assuming nonfat ron moves to real. the rumors were hot that robinho was going to be partial payment though
 
 my thought is that huntelaar is never moving as he's had his choice of destination for a year and a half now. van der vaart might be a bit below manusa
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 15, 2008, 09:12:00 am
I know you all poke fun at Brits and their teeth...but for the love of God wouldn't do something if you had his money???
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Post by: godsshoeshine on July 15, 2008, 09:16:00 am
are those braces
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 15, 2008, 09:38:00 am
I don't know what the big deal is...he's 31 so his career is pretty much over now anyway.
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Post by: godsshoeshine on July 15, 2008, 09:48:00 am
and hes been fat for ages. never stopped him from scoring when he can get on the pitch anyway. i bet he ends up in mls
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 15, 2008, 10:57:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  and hes been fat for ages. never stopped him from scoring when he can get on the pitch anyway. i bet he ends up in mls
And make some doodle orhadontist extremely happy!
 
 And what the hell is Becks doing pimping sharpies??
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 15, 2008, 05:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
   the rumors were hot that robinho was going to be partial payment though
I can assure what I don't want to see is nonfat Ronaldo move to Real with Robinho moving to Chelsea. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jul/15/premierleague.laligafootball)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 15, 2008, 05:18:00 pm
wow...yeah that would suck for you guys
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 15, 2008, 05:57:00 pm
Chelskzzz are no threat....you can only have so many egos in 1 locker room before a team implodes. Why do you think Drogba and Lampard want out? Plus, Dr. Phil Scolari...just what has he actually achieved? My mother could coach Brasil to a world cup final, and he didn't exactly set the world on fire with Portugal now did he?
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 16, 2008, 10:54:00 am
Thank god that drama is over....who's the next big one?
 
 Ronaldinho to sign for AC Milan
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7505761.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7505761.stm)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 16, 2008, 12:49:00 pm
Seems like I'm talking to myself on this thread, but what's new?
 
 I bet Sparky Hughes is a little peeved at taking the shitty job. He would've been a shoo-in for SAF's assistant with the prospect of becoming Fergies replacement as numero uno in a few years.
 
 My gut feeling is Keano will get his experience at Sunderland then take over at OT down the road.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 16, 2008, 12:52:00 pm
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Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
  My gut feeling is Keano will get his experience at Sunderland then take over at OT down the road.
I have thought this from the beginning (I'm sure I'm on record here as saying it too).
 
 And I love Wesley Sneijder (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=555627&sec=europe&cc=5901).  His comments on nonfat Ronaldo are perfect - sell Ronaldo, take Schneider as partial payment and bring Van Der Vaart to OT with him.  That's a squad I would love to watch.
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 16, 2008, 01:01:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
  My gut feeling is Keano will get his experience at Sunderland then take over at OT down the road.
I have thought this from the beginning (I'm sure I'm on record here as saying it too).
 
 And I love Wesley Sneijder (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=555627&sec=europe&cc=5901).  His comments on nonfat Ronaldo are perfect - sell Ronaldo, take Schneider as partial payment and bring Van Der Vaart to OT with him.  That's a squad I would love to watch. [/b]
Ronaldo has put himself in an awkward spot now over this fiasco...United players will resent him and Madrid players don't really want him. No matter what happens he will have a negative effect on either locker room. I bet they'll have to pull Gary Neville off him because that guy lives, eats and breathes for United.
 
 Personally, I just want him gone at this point. I wanted him gone after the Rooney incident during the world cup, but now I REALLY want him gone. Just like RVN, Staam and Becks before him - no one player is bigger than the whole.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 21, 2008, 11:16:00 am
intercity firm v. columbus crew (http://deadspin.com/5027171/when-premier-league-mls-fans-rumble)
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 21, 2008, 11:19:00 am
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
  intercity firm v. columbus crew (http://deadspin.com/5027171/when-premier-league-mls-fans-rumble)
West Ham has fans???
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 21, 2008, 11:26:00 am
west ham supporters are not well liked among fans of other english teams. just brutal
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 21, 2008, 11:47:00 am
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  west ham supporters are not well liked among fans of other english teams. just brutal
Dunno...I prefer them to scouse twats, but maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 21, 2008, 12:00:00 pm
liverpool supporters are pretty bad, of course
 
 but the hammer fans like to chant tumor boy at cancer survivors. that just uncool
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: vansmack on July 21, 2008, 12:21:00 pm
Boulahrouz completes move from Chelsea to Stuttgart (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/7667052)
 
 And Makelele too apparently.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 21, 2008, 12:30:00 pm
i'll miss hearing him called 'the fine china'
 
 its funny, when the window opened, spurs were linked to every player under the sun and even landed modric. all the toon fans were all 'spurs are beating us to EVERYTHING'
 
 now they're selling like 8 players including their two best players. haha
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: Frank Gallagher on July 21, 2008, 12:41:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  Boulahrouz completes move from Chelsea to Stuttgart (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/7667052)
 
 And Makelele too apparently.
Makalele went to PSG
 
 I'm telling you...there's more than meets the eye as to what's going on at Stamford Bridge. A team that were runners up in the EPL and CL don't have players trying to get out for no reason.
 
 Do you know of a max exodus at the Emirates or Old Trafford? We have the Ronaldo fiasco but I think that's more a publicity stunt than anything else. Scum have some major insecurities with the owners issue, but even they aren't having transfer requests submitted. Crouch only went so he could get playing time.
 
 I give it three more years before chelskzzzzzz implode and become the next Leeds United.
Title: Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
Post by: godsshoeshine on July 21, 2008, 01:26:00 pm
i'm not saying i disagree, but flamini, hleb and adebayor is a pretty heft