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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: ggw on August 07, 2008, 10:06:00 pm
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A couple of hours ago, three of my all-time best friends showed up at my door to help me celebrate my upcoming birthday. One of them brought a half ounbce of boomers with him.
I am officially trippin' balls
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Fuck Clapton - Neil young is God.
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Besides Young, Dylan is also God. Springsteenm is an archangel. Warren Zevon is also up there. Side one oif this album is supren=me.
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HAHA - you aren't joking, are you...
tip: whilst drinking and/or drugging, stay the fuck away from your computer...
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thread has serious potential
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Greatest. Thread. Evah.
Is The Director there?
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I want him to keep posting!
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Don't listen to Betty. You must always share your boomers with us...even if it's only vicariously.
I'm not really sure what boomers are but it sure seems to go well with boomer music. Why don't you spin up a little "White Bird", Curved Air or Fairport Convention? I'm sure they will boost you up to the next level.
Thanks for sharing. Always appreciated. :D
Oh, and happy birthday!
(Apparently, it is.)
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hap bidet.
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Top serious posting from GGW!!!
Happy Birthday!
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:cool:
Happy Birthday!
Enjoy!
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Happy birthday! It's mine, too. Or was, an hour ago. However I am drug free. I accidentally celebrated on the wrong days.
Yay for Leos!
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Just So No To Kosmos
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This made my morning. God bless GGW...still trippin' at 50.
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I am way too old for this shit. I am officially going to bed now.
you be betty is wise beyond her years.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I am way too old for this shit. I am officially going to bed now.
you be betty is wise beyond her years.
What's the difference between 'officially' going to bed and 'unofficially' going to bed? Either way, you're going to bed right?
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
Don't listen to Betty. You must always share your boomers with us...even if it's only vicariously.
I'm not really sure what boomers are but it sure seems to go well with boomer music. Why don't you spin up a little "White Bird", Curved Air or Fairport Convention? I'm sure they will boost you up to the next level.
Thanks for sharing. Always appreciated. :D
Oh, and happy birthday!
(Apparently, it is.)
SHROOMS
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Boomers = modern hippie jargon for magic mushrooms.
Originally posted by Jaguar:
I'm not really sure what boomers are but it sure seems to go well with boomer music. Why don't you spin up a little "White Bird", Curved Air or Fairport Convention? I'm sure they will boost you up to the next level.
Thanks for sharing. Always appreciated. :D
Oh, and happy birthday!
(Apparently, it is.)
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Boomers = modern hippie jargon for magic mushrooms.
Until now I only knew boomers as aging hippies, not modern hippie jargon... you learn something new every day!
Happy birthday GGW... I am glad to see you augmenting your boomers with great music... and happy birthday Samantha, too!
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wow, ggw tripping and posting? alright!
posting on mushrooms is fun, just watch those typos.
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LOLOLOLOL
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I've always wanted to try shrooms, but the idea that you don't come down for hours and hours scares the crap outta me!
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I think acid highs are even longer.
I've always been afraid of hallucinogens mostly for that reason.
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with acid, the length of the high doesn't bother me so much as the possibility of flashbacks. everybody tells me that it's just like a bonus high, but i'm positive it would just make me more paranoid and anxious.
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Never met anyone who's had a flashback. Pretty sure it's a myth.
The staying in your spine thing is a myth as well.
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Start off at 6PM and fall asleep at 1AM. Great evening.
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
I've always wanted to try shrooms, but the idea that you don't come down for hours and hours scares the crap outta me!
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I've always found acid to be more manageable than mushrooms. I've never had a really bad experience on acid, even during the days of really pushing it with massive doses. But I had two incredibly bad trips on mushrooms, and I fear their power much more.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Never met anyone who's had a flashback. Pretty sure it's a myth.
Neither have I and I've even read in psych books that it was total bullshit propaganda to scare people away from it. However, I use to know two different people who took way too much too often and screwed up their minds for life, very much like Syd Barrett. Like any other kind of substance, must handle with care.
Figured that's what GGW was talking about but have never before heard them called boomers.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Never met anyone who's had a flashback. Pretty sure it's a myth.
The staying in your spine thing is a myth as well.
i didn't think much of it, but a really close friend told me about her experience and i believe her because she wouldn't do any more drugs for months afterward.
also, i've never heard of the spine thing, but i googled it, and that's just gross.
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you guys are fucking idiots. stay away from that shit.
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ok mom
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mmmmm cow poop!
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you be betty is wise beyond her years.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
you guys are fucking idiots. stay away from that shit.
Yes, listen to betty you fucking morons.
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
Figured that's what GGW was talking about but have never before heard them called boomers.
it's kind of a southern/frat thing
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I'm more scared of acid than I am of shrooms... although the story of Bicycle Day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_LSD) certainly makes it seem compelling.
There's also some pretty compelling narrative in "Confessions of an English Opium-Eater," (http://books.google.com/books?id=e58nW0zCKKUC&dq=Thomas+De+Quincey&pg=PP1&ots=bLmJyhzgjD&sig=AJRCoL7e-3Qj96XgGLH9cXyjsAI&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPP5,M1) if you've ever been tempted to go that route.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
I've always found acid to be more manageable than mushrooms. I've never had a really bad experience on acid, even during the days of really pushing it with massive doses. But I had two incredibly bad trips on mushrooms, and I fear their power much more.
exact opposite for me. never had a bad experience with psilocybin, whereas lsd has ripped my head off once or twice.
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NO MORER DRUGS
i like you guys i dont want you to die
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Originally posted by you be betty:
NO MORER DRUGS
how about lesser drunking? :p
Originally posted by you be betty:
i like you guys i dont want you to die
aww, thanks betty, but drugs don't kill everyone everywhere and drugs are not all the same (weed <> heroin). alcohol kills more people than drugs, but would you stop someone from enjoying a beer or two?
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yeah, enough with the proselytizing. hallucinogens can be incredibly therapeutic and harmless. it all depends on the individual's personality and stability, the dosage, and set and setting.
i've tripped over 200 times on acid, mushrooms, mescaline, and ecstasy, and i've never had a flashback, nor a bad trip. i've had some strange experiences, but nothing scary or frightening, and i choose to immerse myself in some pretty dark music/film/art. it's all about altering perception, bending reality, and breaking down barriers, some of which are negative influences in life.
i'm pretty sure i'm a productive member of society with a job and multiple friends. and i last took acid on saturday while watching judas priest and sabbath.
read aldous huxley's "doors of perception" and "heaven and hell" (fuck it, you should read any and all huxley anyway). he was around 58 when he first started experimenting with acid, and died when he was 68 (on a dose of 250 mg).
careful regulation and moderation is the key with hallucinogens. not everybody should experiment with them, but in the right hands, they can be wonderful.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
alcohol kills more people than drugs, but would you stop someone from enjoying a beer or two?
yes, but i do believe that unless you are an alcoholic, a beer or two will neither kill you nor have the same neural effects as an acid trip.
let's slyly forget that i posted last night after two drinks (me=low tolerance). ha ha, i know, ironic - next time i heed my own advice...but still, do not ever drink lethal amounts on a regular basis, so do not consider myself to be doing anything strenuous to myself.
i do love LOVE how snailhook tells me to stop proselytizing as he launches into a three-paragraph post about how awesome and therapeutic hallucinogens and huxley are.
the idea of doing acid or whatnot is certainly romanticized by those who have had great experiences with it - i am an artist and hippie at heart, but frankly, i would never touch something with such an unpredictable outcome. not to mention the fact that all of these awesome substances can build up in your spinal cord - basically the backbone (pun intended) of your whole existence and functioning - and pop out to play at any given point in time. i like my brain and body too much to do that much harm to it. snailhook, if you have tripped over 200 times, don't try to tell me that you haven't fucked yourself up.
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Thanks for sharing, but I'll pass.
Originally posted by snailhook:
yeah, enough with the proselytizing. having safe sex with hiv infected prostitutes can be incredibly therapeutic and harmless. it all depends on the individual's personality and stability, set and setting, and the condom not breaking.
i've fucked over 200 black, asian, and white hos, and i've never had an std, nor a bad condom. i've had some strange experiences, but nothing scary or frightening, and i choose to immerse myself in some pretty dark meat. it's all about altering perception, bending reality, and breaking down barriers, some of which are negative influences in life.
i'm pretty sure i'm a productive member of society with a job and multiple friends. and i last had safe sex with an hiv infected prostitute on saturday while watching judas priest and sabbath.
read aldous huxley's "doors of perception" and "heaven and hell" (fuck it, you should read any and all huxley anyway). he was around 58 when he first started experimenting with hooker sex, and died when he was 68.
careful regulation and moderation is the key with prostitutes. not everybody should experiment with them, but in the right hands, they can be wonderful.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
yes, but i do believe that unless you are an alcoholic, a beer or two will neither kill you nor have the same neural effects as an acid trip.
what exactly are these effects? i fear, betty, that you've bought in to the hype. BTW, alcohol is killer on the liver. again - no more alcohol?
Originally posted by you be betty:
i do love LOVE how snailhook tells me to stop proselytizing as he launches into a three-paragraph post about how awesome and therapeutic hallucinogens and huxley are.
but he wasn't telling others what they should and shouldn't do (aka proselytizing). he gave his opinion and experience, but no recommended course of action.
Originally posted by you be betty:
i would never touch something with such an unpredictable outcome. not to mention the fact that all of these awesome substances can build up in your spinal cord
please show me a single credible scientific article that backs up your spinal chord accumulation assertion... you won't find any. it's all hype and lies, made up to scare impressionable folks. reefer madness - hide the women and children!!! seriously tho, i'm not going to tell you that drugs are harmless and everyone should indulge. however, let's stay away from lies and scare-the-schoolchildren boogeymen, m'kay?
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I've never taken a hallucinogen and most likely never will because I think they're not for me. But who am I to tell anyone what they can and can't ingest?
The spine myth has been debunked scientifically; in fact, LSD is most likely out of your system before the trip itself is completely over. Maybe you should stop taking everything that everyone older than you (myself and everyone on this board included) has told you about drugs at face value and do some reading of unbiased scientific sources instead?
P.S. If you don't think hallucinogens can serve a purpose, re-read the first 15 or so posts of this thread again and try to not laugh.
GGW's eating them brightened up many of our days for a few seconds and if nothing else, that alone made his eating them worthwhile.
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Why do you think they're not for you?
You also seem easily amused. I didn't find this thread funny at all. More like stupid. But maybe stupid is the new funny.
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
I've never taken a hallucinogen and most likely never will because I think they're not for me. But who am I to tell anyone what they can and can't ingest?
The spine myth has been debunked scientifically; in fact, LSD is most likely out of your system before the trip itself is completely over. Maybe you should stop taking everything that everyone older than you (myself and everyone on this board included) has told you about drugs at face value and do some reading of unbiased scientific sources instead?
P.S. If you don't think hallucinogens can serve a purpose, re-read the first 15 or so posts of this thread again and try to not laugh.
GGW's eating them brightened up many of our days for a few seconds and if nothing else, that alone made his eating them worthwhile.
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Just a personal preference. Some people are intrigued by the idea of having their world turned inside out for a few hours but I'm not.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Why do you think they're not for you?
You also seem easily amused. I didn't find this thread funny at all. More like stupid. But maybe stupid is the new funny.
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
I've never taken a hallucinogen and most likely never will because I think they're not for me. But who am I to tell anyone what they can and can't ingest?
The spine myth has been debunked scientifically; in fact, LSD is most likely out of your system before the trip itself is completely over. Maybe you should stop taking everything that everyone older than you (myself and everyone on this board included) has told you about drugs at face value and do some reading of unbiased scientific sources instead?
P.S. If you don't think hallucinogens can serve a purpose, re-read the first 15 or so posts of this thread again and try to not laugh.
GGW's eating them brightened up many of our days for a few seconds and if nothing else, that alone made his eating them worthwhile.
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but he wasn't telling others what they should and shouldn't do (aka proselytizing).[/b]
thank you, sweetcell. you nailed it...experimenting with drugs should be based on research and personal experience. i'm not saying that everybody should experiment with hallucinogens; in fact, there are many people that should stay far away from the stuff, and i've told some people that they shouldn't fuck with it, based on their personal traits and current mental health.
people that are prone to depression or severe mental illness shouldn't be experimenting with it. even a healthy -- mentally -- person who has been undergoing some internal trauma should steer clear, though the drug can, in some cases, shed some light on the issue and allow the person to see from a different perspective. although i've experimented with it many times before and will continue to do so until i feel that it no longer has a positive affect on me, there have been times when i know i shouldn't take hallucinogens. this is why i've been able to keep bad experiences to a minimum. there are thousands of people like me who treat these drugs with respect and proper preparation.
sadly, there are many who don't, and these people are the ones who generally have negative experiences. to tell you the truth, the effects of hallucinogens aren't really that unpredictable: there has never been a time, no matter how strong the dosage has been, where i didn't know how to handle myself. it's the combination of mental instability, high amount of dosage, and lack of controlled set and setting which usually causes an unpredictable experience. it is rare, though it has been documented, that acid is laced with strychnine or another dangerous chemical.
on the other hand, regarding mental instability, hallucinogens can be therapeutic. in the early days of LSD, doctors were actually recommending it to people going to therapy, but the experience was moderated by the doctor (dosage, set and setting). there are lots of accounts of patients having positive aspects of their trips that allowed them to view things from a different, and hopefully better, perspective.
another thing that people who haven't delved into hallucinogens don't realize is that you can regulate the amount you ingest, and therefore the intensity of the drug. when i claim that i've tripped over 200 times, it hasn't all been too intense for me to function in society. in fact, those times are few and far between, when i have to stay at home and sit on my couch and not deal with talking to others because communication is too difficult. most of the time, however, i can go to a show or a film or a museum and talk to people just fine. it's like being really high for an extended period of time, and your perception -- though not your coordination -- is a bit altered, though not necessarily impaired. alcohol can disable one's coordination and judgment just as bad, if not worse, than hallucinogens do.
it's incredibly difficult explaining how hallucinogens function and how they physically affect the body. there are many scientific explanations floating around; with some research, it can easily be posted here. i suggested reading huxley because he accurately and quite elegantly explains the whole process of tripping and how it affects the brain. i'm sure you're familiar with brave new world and perhaps some of his other novels. huxley was the furthest thing from some idiot looking for a quick thrill. most of the people who experimented with hallucinogens in the '50s approached it from a similar standpoint. compendiums like the psychedelic reader are worth researching because they have many fascinating articles describing the chemical make-up and effects of the drug and pretty much everything related to its effect on culture and society.
i could go on and on about this topic because i think a lot of people are misinformed (as noted above, the spinal cord thing is indeed unproven and has been used as propaganda for years to scare people). i'm not the kind of person who will tell anybody what they should or shouldn't do, unless they want advice in a field that i am experienced enough in to offer them. it's true that many people should stay away from hallucinogens because of the likelihood of disaster. kids shouldn't be doing it because they simply haven't had the time to research what they're getting into, and research is important. i read numerous books on the subject and talked to people who experimented with it to know what to expect before i decided to do it myself.
however, when done right, there is nothing in the world, physically and mentally and spiritually, like tripping. it makes everything sound better and appear with a sense of vitality that is missing from sobriety. it opens up avenues of thought that might otherwise lay dormant. as human beings, we have been conditioned with formula and routine for so long that we develop barriers, which prevent us from viewing things from certain perspectives. tripping, like any extreme emotion like love or fear or anger, allows us to overcome those societal barriers without the myopia of intense emotion.
you can take your DARE propaganda and throw it out the window. life ain't like that. i won't even mention the great times and positive experiences i've had on some other drugs, some of which are highly addictive (wherein lies the main problem of opium and cocaine and meth, while hallucinogens are not physically addictive). it is human nature to explore and experiment, and there's nothing wrong with that, as long as education and moderation is involved. don't experiment with drugs if you don't want to, but don't judge others negatively because they might actually be doing it responsibly.
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i'd say you people got more to worry about with these idiots and their fishtanks. ban all fishtanks. ban all fishtank fish. fishtank fish will kill us all.
experience life before you dictate it.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
[let's slyly forget that i posted last night after two drinks
UNDERAGE DRINKING??? you are fired as board mom. and please stop i dont want you to die
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
Originally posted by you be betty:
[let's slyly forget that i posted last night after two drinks
UNDERAGE DRINKING??? you are fired as board mom. and please stop i dont want you to die [/b]
someone in the hall just screamed bingo.
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All I know is that having my one year old find a leaf on the ground and bring it to me and hand it to me brings infinitely more joy than any acid trip ever could!
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
All I know is that having my one year old find a leaf on the ground and bring it to me and hand it to me brings infinitely more joy than any acid trip ever could!
until they grow up fourteen years later, hate you, hate everything, wear black, listen to manson, get excited about dark topics like columbine and the such . . . then we'll see who is more happy.
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Children are a product of their parents and their good or bad parenting skills.
Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
All I know is that having my one year old find a leaf on the ground and bring it to me and hand it to me brings infinitely more joy than any acid trip ever could!
until they grow up fourteen years later, hate you, hate everything, wear black, listen to manson, get excited about dark topics like columbine and the such . . . then we'll see who is more happy. [/b]
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Dude, imagine how trippy that shit would've been on peyote!!!!
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
All I know is that having my one year old find a leaf on the ground and bring it to me and hand it to me brings infinitely more joy than any acid trip ever could!
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i jsut read this thread and i thought it was funny until some of you peopel are all like "dont do drugs"
and then i stopped laughing and i just think its stupid now.
does it just make you feel better to tell people to stop doing drugs?
or do you really think cause some girl on the internet says they're bad, someone will stop recreationally using substances?
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Reading this thread is like that drug trip in that movie I saw when I was on that drug trip.
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Originally posted by very sonick:
do you really think cause some girl on the internet says they're bad, someone will stop recreationally using substances?
Is she offering sexual favors with this? :)
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
All I know is that having my one year old find a leaf on the ground and bring it to me and hand it to me brings infinitely more joy than any acid trip ever could!
Well righty-oh! Aren't you just the bestest! Peachy keeny wieney do! Now let's all move to Wiscaaahnsin!
Oh, and it was probably a pot leaf. She was trying to get you to lighten up and stop being such an insufferable, self-righteous douche, Grampa.
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I see you get your kicks from mocking and calling names. Nice going, teenager.
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
All I know is that having my one year old find a leaf on the ground and bring it to me and hand it to me brings infinitely more joy than any acid trip ever could!
Well righty-oh! Aren't you just the bestest! Peachy keeny wieney do! Now let's all move to Wiscaaahnsin!
Oh, and it was probably a pot leaf. She was trying to get you to lighten up and stop being such an insufferable, self-righteous douche, Grampa. [/b]
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wait, did rhett just get zonged for being a good father
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Originally posted by very sonick:
i jsut read this thread and i thought it was funny until some of you peopel are all like "dont do drugs"
and then i stopped laughing and i just think its stupid now.
does it just make you feel better to tell people to stop doing drugs?
or do you really think cause some girl on the internet says they're bad, someone will stop recreationally using substances?
not really, i was pretty much casually joking.
this is a message board.
i really have no intention of changing someone's views, and pretty much thought that we were having a casual discussion. no animosity here.
i wouldn't ever judge someone based on their bodily choices just because i have a difference of opinion. some of you have posted in this thread and told me to stop judging people when i haven't posted a single judgment on any one of you, and never would.
i have tons of friends who use drugs and i don't think of them as bad people or anything because they do. it is a difference of opinion and i am fine with what they do as long as they don't pressure me and understand and respect that we have a difference of opinion. i have spent the last two months living in an apartment with two potheads. i don't tell them how to live their lives or judge their choices, and still love them very much.
and on a separate note, for those of you who claim that i "take everything that everyone older than me has told me about drugs at face value," thanks, but no thanks...i took a year of college psychology and a year of college anatomy in high school and aced both classes and exams year round. i used the same textbooks they use at UMD. sorry i'm 18 and i'm going to art school, but that doesn't mean i don't know my shit.
i have heard the spinal cord thing debated, and was told and read that there isn't really a 100% fullproof answer on the matter yet. yes lsd is excreted within a day. but judging by the fact that serotonin is regulated throughout both the brain and spinal cord, and that LSD targets this neurotransmitter if i recall correctly, i see it as being a viable possibility. if one has a flashback after having taken LSD at some point, there is obviously something somewhere in the neural track that is causing that to happen. the drug thus either permanently fucked something up along the way, or is still hanging around somewhere. we still don't know what exactly causes flashbacks, so i don't think it is something that should ever be ruled out.
but just a thought, i mean i obviously can't prove any of this shit scientifically...
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personally i think flashbacks are wishful thinking. I my youth did tons of acid and all that other good stuff and know folks who have tripped hundreds of times. I've never heard a fist hand account of a flashback...
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
wait, did rhett just get zonged for being a good father
No
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by very sonick:
i jsut read this thread and i thought it was funny until some of you peopel are all like "dont do drugs"
and then i stopped laughing and i just think its stupid now.
does it just make you feel better to tell people to stop doing drugs?
or do you really think cause some girl on the internet says they're bad, someone will stop recreationally using substances?
not really, i was pretty much casually joking.
this is a message board.
i really have no intention of changing someone's views, and pretty much thought that we were having a casual discussion. no animosity here.
i wouldn't ever judge someone based on their bodily choices just because i have a difference of opinion. some of you have posted in this thread and told me to stop judging people when i haven't posted a single judgment on any one of you, and never would.
i have tons of friends who use drugs and i don't think of them as bad people or anything because they do. it is a difference of opinion and i am fine with what they do as long as they don't pressure me and understand and respect that we have a difference of opinion. i have spent the last two months living in an apartment with two potheads. i don't tell them how to live their lives or judge their choices, and still love them very much.
and on a separate note, for those of you who claim that i "take everything that everyone older than me has told me about drugs at face value," thanks, but no thanks...i took a year of college psychology and a year of college anatomy in high school and aced both classes and exams year round. i used the same textbooks they use at UMD. sorry i'm 18 and i'm going to art school, but that doesn't mean i don't know my shit.
i have heard the spinal cord thing debated, and was told and read that there isn't really a 100% fullproof answer on the matter yet. yes lsd is excreted within a day. but judging by the fact that serotonin is regulated throughout both the brain and spinal cord, and that LSD targets this neurotransmitter if i recall correctly, i see it as being a viable possibility. if one has a flashback after having taken LSD at some point, there is obviously something somewhere in the neural track that is causing that to happen. the drug thus either permanently fucked something up along the way, or is still hanging around somewhere. we still don't know what exactly causes flashbacks, so i don't think it is something that should ever be ruled out.
but just a thought, i mean i obviously can't prove any of this shit scientifically... [/b]
you're 18, taking college classes in high school, attending an art school, and seem to be intelligent, powerful, independent, and thought inducing?? nice. i bet you'll make someone lucky very happy, if you haven't already. but i'm sure you know that older people never listen to the younger ones.
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Don't let it bother you betty...you can't reason with crack-heads.
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Drugs don't kill people. People on drugs kill people.
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Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
Don't let it bother you betty...you can't reason with crack-heads.
comparing someone who smokes pot or takes mushrooms and lsd as a recreation, with a crack head is a really fucked up thing to say.
that's like calling me an aids whore because i'm gay. or you a slickster, snake oil, used car salesman.
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You may be right about that. But if my daughter were a teenager, I'd love for her to have betty as a friend.
Originally posted by walkonby:
but i'm sure you know that older people never listen to the younger ones. [/QB]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
But if my daughter were a teenager, I'd love for her to have betty as a friend.
wait 'til you see how betty dresses. once you peep her waredrobe, you might reconsider.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
You may be right about that. But if my daughter were a teenager, I'd love for her to have betty as a friend.
I'll be your daughters friend.
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Oh, I imagine he's all of those things and more. Doesn't make him as bad as a druggie, though, does it? :D
Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
Don't let it bother you betty...you can't reason with crack-heads.
comparing someone who smokes pot or takes mushrooms and lsd as a recreation, with a crack head is a really fucked up thing to say.
that's like calling me an aids whore because i'm gay. or you a slickster, snake oil, used car salesman. [/b]
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I see you get your kicks from mocking and calling names. Nice going, teenager.
And you get yours everyday from going to a music venue's chat board and bashing people for their personal tastes in music, art, food, etc. ...what's the difference?
If you're a self-supporting responsible individual who likes doing drugs recreationally and you don't cause harm to yourself or others, good for you. If you think drugs are bad and don't want to do them.. good for you. What's so hard about that?
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If you don't know the difference between mocking someone and calling them names because they simply express that there's nothing that could possibly be as joyful as a love shared between father and daughter vs. mocking someone based on the comparatively superficial topic of taste in arts they choose to patronize, well sir, I can't help you out on that one.
I generally agree with your philosophy expressed in your second paragraph, but let me ask you...how does one know with 100% certainty that their actions are not harmful to themselves or others? One doesn't. Nothing's 100% certain, except birth, death, and the fact that the White Stripes suck.
Originally posted by samsfresh5:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I see you get your kicks from mocking and calling names. Nice going, teenager.
And you get yours everyday from going to a music venue's chat board and bashing people for their personal tastes in music, art, food, etc. ...what's the difference?
If you're a self-supporting responsible individual who likes doing drugs recreationally and you don't cause harm to yourself or others, good for you. If you think drugs are bad and don't want to do them.. good for you. What's so hard about that? [/b]
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Personally, I've done hallucinogens well over 1000 times, managed to graduate from college with several degrees, maintain an IQ of over 140 and run my own successful business. Never had a flashback. However, they are not for the weak minded or to be taken while in an unstable or depressed state of mind. When used responsibly, hallucinogens do far less damage to ones body than an extended period of alcohol consumption. Like Snailhook mentioned, they certainly can give you a completley different perspective, a breakthrough mentally, so to speak. They also can certainly compliment some musical experiences as well. But to reiterate, not for the weak minded. If you don't have much upstairs to start with, stick to the alcohol if you must partake in a mind altering substance, hallucinogens are probably not a wise decision. I'd also recommend weed over alcohol, other than the ridiculous legalities that is. Just sayin.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Oh, I imagine he's all of those things and more. Doesn't make him as bad as a druggie, though, does it? :D
Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
Don't let it bother you betty...you can't reason with crack-heads.
comparing someone who smokes pot or takes mushrooms and lsd as a recreation, with a crack head is a really fucked up thing to say.
that's like calling me an aids whore because i'm gay. or you a slickster, snake oil, used car salesman. [/b]
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Crack, smack, weed, whatever...they're all drugs and so belong in the same category imo.
Since when has aids become a gay only disease?
And for the record...I don't sell used cars, but I do have some amazing snake oil fresh from the Florida everglades if you're interested.
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I'm certainly not a proponent of and type of drug use, but that statement's a bit naiive. Would you include alcohol and caffeine in the same category?
On a tangential note, do all foods belong in the same food group category?
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
Crack, smack, weed, whatever...they're all drugs and so belong in the same category imo.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
If you don't know the difference between mocking someone and calling them names because they simply express that there's nothing that could possibly be as joyful as a love shared between father and daughter vs. mocking someone based on the comparatively superficial topic of taste in arts they choose to patronize, well sir, I can't help you out on that one.
Agreed and I can see the difference.. I just thought it was kinda funny coming from someone who 9 out of 10 of their posts seems to be about the latter instead of the "honesty and sincerity" in the former.
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I generally agree with your philosophy expressed in your second paragraph, but let me ask you...how does one know with 100% certainty that their actions are not harmful to themselves or others? One doesn't. Nothing's 100% certain, except birth, death, and the fact that the White Stripes suck.
True... so for someone to tell someone that they should or shouldn't do something where you don't know if it's harming anything/anyone ..is just as wrong in that logic, because how do you know.. if its... wrong...
...The white stripes, on the other hand, is quantifyable. :o
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Well you have me there. Yes, a bit ironic. I'm actually a fairly decent fellow offline, most of the time. But online, I have to keep up my reputation. ;)
Originally posted by samsfresh5:
I just thought it was kinda funny coming from someone who 9 out of 10 of their posts seems to be about the latter instead of the "honesty and sincerity" in the former.
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This has been an emotional day for all of us. I think we should get naked.
What?
Don't ask questions. Just give in to the power of the tea.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I'm certainly not a proponent of and type of drug use, but that statement's a bit naiive. Would you include alcohol and caffeine in the same category?
On a tangential note, do all foods belong in the same food group category?
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
Crack, smack, weed, whatever...they're all drugs and so belong in the same category imo.
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Naive maybe....but they're all illegal and that's why I lump them all together.
I have zero tolerance for druggies, always have always will.
I enjoy a glass of wine as much as the next person but I have zero tolerance for drunks either. It's not a disease, it's a weakness.
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nothing anyone does affects only them.
so next time you hear someone say something about their actions only affecting (positively or negatively) themselves.
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Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I'm certainly not a proponent of and type of drug use, but that statement's a bit naiive. Would you include alcohol and caffeine in the same category?
On a tangential note, do all foods belong in the same food group category?
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
Crack, smack, weed, whatever...they're all drugs and so belong in the same category imo.
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Naive maybe....but they're all illegal and that's why I lump them all together.
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So, if tomorrow they suddenly legalized just one of those drugs, your opinion of it would change based solely on the legality of it within a governmental system?
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leave him alone . . . he was in the military; he's used to being a slave to what the government believes is correct.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
leave him alone . . . he was in the military; he's used to being a slave to what the government believes is correct.
I'm just trying to grasp any semblence of logic from that statement. Although he and I agree and disagree almost with equal frequency, I can usually at least manage to " get" his point of view. On this one, I'm currently at a loss.
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Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
Naive maybe....but they're all illegal and that's why I lump them all together.
I have zero tolerance for druggies, always have always will. [/QB]
Good one. Sir, yes sir!!! (sorry for the military reference... I have a bad habit of lumping all people in the military of being a certain way)
My ancestors had zero tolerance for blacks and women voting, so I see where you're coming from.. makes sense.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
leave him alone . . . he was in the military; he's used to being a slave to what the government believes is correct.
Not true....when I served homosexuality was illegal in the military and punishable by prison time then dishonourable discharge. I thought (and still do) that was a ridiculous attitude for the military to take and disagreed with it 100%
If they legalized weed tomorrow I wouldn't really have a problem with it. If someone uses an illegal substance they should be punished, end of....your attitude is why this country's society is in the crapper "fuck the government I'll do what I want regardless"...alcohol isn't illegal but driving with too much in your bloodstream is. I happen to think the level is far too low but that doesn't mean I drive around over the legal limit. The legal limit is so low they may as well just put it at zero imo. Zero tolerance is probably the best way to go at this point.
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Originally posted by samsfresh5:
Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
Naive maybe....but they're all illegal and that's why I lump them all together.
I have zero tolerance for druggies, always have always will. [/b]
Good one. Sir, yes sir!!! (sorry for the military reference... I have a bad habit of lumping all people in the military of being a certain way)
My ancestors had zero tolerance for blacks and women voting, so I see where you're coming from.. makes sense. [/QB]
That's great, just great....bring out the race card at every opportunity.
I hope you're ashamed of your ancestors.
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Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
Originally posted by walkonby:
leave him alone . . . he was in the military; he's used to being a slave to what the government believes is correct.
Not true....when I served homosexuality was illegal in the military and punishable by prison time then dishonourable discharge. I thought (and still do) that was a ridiculous attitude for the military to take and disagreed with it 100%
If they legalized weed tomorrow I wouldn't really have a problem with it. If someone uses an illegal substance they should be punished, end of....your attitude is why this country's society is in the crapper "fuck the government I'll do what I want regardless"...alcohol isn't illegal but driving with too much in your bloodstream is. I happen to think the level is far too low but that doesn't mean I drive around over the legal limit. The legal limit is so low they may as well just put it at zero imo. Zero tolerance is probably the best way to go at this point. [/b]
stop it . . . you're turning me on. sir, yes sir!
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Originally posted by Ever Circling Skeletal Family:
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That's great, just great....bring out the race card at every opportunity.
I hope you're ashamed of your ancestors. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Highly ashamed. ..Except for those that were in the military. :D
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To be fair, Mankie wasn't really in the "military."
He was in Her Majesty's Royal Navy and, with the exception of flexing their muscle over third world Argentina in 1982, they haven't won a real naval battle in a couple hundred years.
It's more like he was on the The Love Boat loaded with fireworks.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
To be fair, Mankie wasn't really in the "military."
He was in Her Majesty's Royal Navy and, with the exception of flexing their muscle over third world Argentina in 1982, they haven't won a real naval battle in a couple hundred years.
It's more like he was on the The Love Boat loaded with fireworks.
That's the best thing I've read on the Internet in six days.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
To be fair, Mankie wasn't really in the "military."
He was in Her Majesty's Royal Navy and, with the exception of flexing their muscle over third world Argentina in 1982, they haven't won a real naval battle in a couple hundred years.
It's more like he was on the The Love Boat loaded with fireworks.
We haven't had to...because nobody fucks with us anymore.
How did that USS Cole work out for y'all?
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GGW, please get fucked up again and come back and save this thread.
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Public service announcement
Warning to anyone flying commercial airlines this weekend.
USS Vincennes is conducting target practice.
End of public service announcement.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
GGW, please get fucked up again and come back and save this thread.
C'mon, this thread has turned into a winding, mysterious journey as epic as any acid trip. Someone needs to post a picture of a goat in a hat or some adverbs or walkonby's resume and then we can all come down together.
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Somebody take something...this thread went from radical to shit super quick.
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
GGW, please get fucked up again and come back and save this thread.
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Ehh...the last thing with any good entertainment value posted in here was the Futurama reference.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Ehh...the last thing with any good entertainment value posted in here was the Futurama reference.
but yet it is on page three. and does nkotb even take drugs? should he even be in this thread?
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
GGW, please get fucked up again and come back and save this thread.
Just the fact that it was GGW who got this discussion started is why this board is so priceless. Wouldn't have guessed that would've happened in a million years. Hopefully, the Black Album was played sometime during the duration of his recent experience.
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
GGW, please get fucked up again and come back and save this thread.
Just the fact that it was GGW who got this discussion started is why this board is so priceless. [/b]
Exactly!
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
This has been an emotional day for all of us. I think we should get naked.
Let's get back to this.
I'm in.
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I wonder if ggw realized he'd spawn a three-page thread with his crazed boomer trippin'?
Whatever you kids do, stay off heroin, or you'll start writing songs like this:
Duck and Sally inside
They're cooking for the down five
Who're staring at Miss Rayon
Who's busy licking up her big man
I'm searching for my mainline
I said I couldn't hit it sideways
I said I couldn't hit it sideways
Ah, it's just like Sister Ray says
Rosy and Miss Rayon
They're busy waiting for her booster
Who just got back from Carolina
She said she didn't like the weather
They're busy waiting for her Sailor
Who said he's just as big as ever
He's just here from Alabama
He wants to know a way to earn a dollar
I'm searching for my mainline
I couldn't hit it sideways
Ah, just like Sister Ray said
Cecil's got his new piece
He cocks and shoots between three and four
He aims it at the Sailor
Shoots him down dead on the floor
Oh, you shouldn't do that
Don't you know you'll stain the carpet
Don't you know you'll stain the carpet
And by the way man, have you got a dollar
Oh no man, I haven't got the time time
Too busy sucking on a ding dong
She's too busy sucking on my ding dong
Oh, she does it just like Sister Ray said
I'm searching for my mainline
I said I couldn't hit it sideways
I couldn't hit it sideways
Oh, just like, just like Sister Ray says
Now, who's that knocking
Who's that knocking on my chamber door
Now could it be the police
They've come to take me for a ride ride
Oh, but I haven't got the time time
Too busy sucking on my ding dong
She's too busy sucking on my ding dong
Oh, now, just like Sister Ray said
I'm searching on my line
I couldn't hit it sideways
I couldn't hit it sideways
Oh now, just like, just like, just like.....
Sister Ray says.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
This has been an emotional day for all of us. I think we should get naked.
Let's get back to this.
I'm in. [/b]
me too. and that was totally a ZOOLANDER reference. nice.
SWEETCELL, i believe you have only met me once, but i dress impeccably. my closet is a golden beacon of heaven.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
SWEETCELL, i believe you have only met me once, but i dress impeccably. my closet is a golden beacon of heaven.
that was too easy :)
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
wait 'til you see how betty dresses. once you peep her waredrobe, you might reconsider.
Look, I understand it's the internet and we all say things we wouldn't say "in person" or whatever, but this was a really low blow. I don't always agree with Betty's fashion style, but at least she tries and has an individualistic perspective on the fashion world. There's no reason to say something knowing full well it's going to make someone cry or something.
Not cool, Sweetness, not cool.
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i agree with the topic of this thread having just visited Falling Water
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
Not cool, Sweetness, not cool.
your concern is touching, but misplaced. i'm guilty only of not including a smiley.
we all know that betty is in to fashion, this was an easy target. it's akin to me accusing you, julian, of wearing docksiders. no one would think i'm being serious.
can we get back to the drugs and nakedness now?
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
can we get back to the drugs and nakedness now?
Then having solicited a clarification, I will remove myself from this thread at once as I do not wish to come down with a raging, secondhand contact high. The road to obesity was paved with the munchies.
EDIT: I have worn docksiders once when this girl invited me yachting (the day before VFest last year, as I recall). Seriously.
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Originally posted by nkotb:
Somebody take something...this thread went from radical to shit super quick.
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
GGW, please get fucked up again and come back and save this thread.
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Rhett taking a laxative would be a nice start. ;)
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
This has been an emotional day for all of us. I think we should get naked.
Let's get back to this.
I'm in. [/b]
me too. and that was totally a ZOOLANDER reference. nice. [/b]
i just got back from tropic thunder ... it's zoolander x10
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Originally posted by samsfresh5:
If you're a self-supporting responsible individual who likes doing drugs recreationally and you don't cause harm to yourself or others, good for you. If you think drugs are bad and don't want to do them.. good for you. What's so hard about that? [/b]
So which one are you? ;)
MindCage
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
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This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berghain) is where I'm going in a few hours. I'm worried it will just be annoying unless I'm rolling.
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That could be pretty awesome.
Then again, I think minimal techno is pretty awesome.
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Are you on vacation?
Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berghain) is where I'm going in a few hours. I'm worried it will just be annoying unless I'm rolling.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
That could be pretty awesome.
Then again, I think minimal techno is pretty awesome.
i think minimal techno is okay. i could have had a blast, but it wasn't sodom and gomorrah like i'd heard. mostly dudes wanting dudes, then babes with their girlfriends, and homelys. people were only getting it on in the bathrooms. i did go on a friday, saturday is supposed to be the bigger, noisier, sexier, night.
i'd probably have been better off with a pill, i had to get pretty drunk to get into it. drinking on the euro is expensive in a club like that.
i stayed for as long as i could so as to make the entrance fee worth it. when i left at 7am there was a line as long as the one i had stayed in at 2am.
Originally posted by econo:
Are you on vacation?
i guess so. since i'm going to school in france, i'm hopping around on the inter-rail in germany, sweden, and benelux, for a little downtime beforehand. sometimes it isn't a vacation, my dad has me go to boring cities to meet boring family members. but, berlin is fantastic.
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Yes it is! Have a great time.
Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
]but, berlin is fantastic.
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Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
i guess so. since i'm going to school in france, i'm hopping around on the inter-rail in germany, sweden, and benelux, for a little downtime beforehand. sometimes it isn't a vacation, my dad has me go to boring cities to meet boring family members. but, berlin is fantastic.
I am officially jealous as fuck.
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I just found my car keys and made it back home. Did I miss anything?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I just found my car keys and made it back home. Did I miss anything?
You've been gone??? Hmmph!
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You missed the Forum outing, we did a road trip to Fallingwater in PA and did shrooms.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
You missed the Forum outing, we did a road trip to Fallingwater in PA and did shrooms.
That's always a good trip ;)
Floating the nearby Yough river by raft or boat always adds to the experience as well if time permits
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Originally posted by SPARX:
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
You missed the Forum outing, we did a road trip to Fallingwater in PA and did shrooms.
That's always a good trip ;)
Floating the nearby Yough river by raft or boat always adds to the experience as well if time permits [/b]
Dood, this post inspired me to go and do just that. It was awesome. Even without shrooms. Best tip I've gotten from this forum since the Pixies presale!
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Originally posted by SPARX:
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
You missed the Forum outing, we did a road trip to Fallingwater in PA and did shrooms.
That's always a good trip ;)
Floating the nearby Yough river by raft or boat always adds to the experience as well if time permits [/b]
Dood, this post inspired me to go and do just that. It was awesome. Even without shrooms. Best tip I've gotten from this forum since the Pixies presale! [/b]
Glad to hear it. That is indeed always a good time.
2 more tips for anyone with the time. Download the Hipshit music mixes and the Psychedelic Glue Sniffin Hillbillies movie I put up to share. You'll be glad you did.
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that was a fun read... for years I've been asking az about his hallucinatory experiences while being blind, but he always ignores my questions.
Az?
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that was a fun read... for years I've been asking az about his hallucinatory experiences while being blind, but he always ignores my questions.
Az?
I always feel weird asking him blind questions and when I do his answers are unsatisfying and I don't push it with follow ups.
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maybe he doesnt want you to know and he hates you. i do not approve when people call mushrooms, boomers.
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I found my answer.
I've never taken a hallucinogen and most likely never will because I think they're not for me. But who am I to tell anyone what they can and can't ingest?
The spine myth has been debunked scientifically; in fact, LSD is most likely out of your system before the trip itself is completely over. Maybe you should stop taking everything that everyone older than you (myself and everyone on this board included) has told you about drugs at face value and do some reading of unbiased scientific sources instead?
P.S. If you don't think hallucinogens can serve a purpose, re-read the first 15 or so posts of this thread again and try to not laugh.
GGW's eating them brightened up many of our days for a few seconds and if nothing else, that alone made his eating them worthwhile.