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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: you be betty on April 04, 2007, 11:09:00 pm
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my mother just successfully called me downstairs to catch a story on the news about a group of girls leaving 9:30 last night on their way to the metro who were followed by another group of girls and stabbed, mugged, pepper sprayed, and harassed.
and just as i was starting to be allowed to go to shows again after the shooting...
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Makes me glad I took a cab.
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hmm. i wonder what show this was. it was last wednesday's...
http://www.nbc4.com/news/11522683/detail.html?dl=headlineclick (http://www.nbc4.com/news/11522683/detail.html?dl=headlineclick)
nbc4.com
3 Women Attacked Near Washington Nightclub 9:30
POSTED: 9:37 pm EDT April 4, 2007
UPDATED: 9:40 pm EDT April 4, 2007
WASHINGTON -- Police said three young women had just left the Nightclub 9:30 and were heading back to Georgetown University when they were attacked from behind.
Officials said the incident occurred around 11:30 p.m. just a block from the metro station near the 800 block of V. Street Northwest last Wednesday.
The victims told police that the suspects, up to eight women in their early 20s, used pepper spray and a knife as they kicked and beat the threesome.
Two of the victims told NBC4 that their injuries were minor, but one girl was stabbed in the arm. Police said she went to the hospital for stitches.
The women told police that moments before the attack, they had an altercation with a male bouncer at the club and the pack spit on him. The women also said they nearly assaulted him.
Detectives admit that a group of eight women isn't their usual suspects.
Two cell phones were stolen, police said, but the victims don't believe the motive of the attack was robbery.
During the assault, police said, the three women cried for help as the mob of female suspects seemed to enjoy the beating as they LOLed.
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i saw that on the news too.
i have to admit, i've lived here for 10 years, i'm 33 years old, and that was the first time i've actually felt some pang of nervousness.
but maybe because i'm going to a show there tomorrow where the f-ing headliner won't be on until midnight.
it's going to be an aprehensive lone walk to the car to be sure.
although i'm sure it's probably safer now with all the attention.
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I try to cab it every time. I hate walking to the metro from the club, but I'm scared shitless when it comes to tons of things, so maybe its just me.
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cold war kids ... everytime something happens near the club, it sure does get a hell of a lot of attention ... doesn't seem like you hear about other muggings in columbia heights or shaw
Three Assaulted Near Popular Club (http://www.thehoya.com/news/040307/news1.cfm)
Student Hospitalized for Injuries
By David Krone
Hoya Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 3, 2007
Three Georgetown students were assaulted near a popular nightclub on Wednesday night by a group of female assailants, resulting in one of the students being hospitalized.
The three students, who were all female, had left a Cold War Kids concert at the 9:30 Club on V Street, NW, and were walking to the nearby Metro station at approximately 11:25 p.m. when they heard someone approaching them from behind at the corner of Vermont and V Streets, according to Erica Slates (SFS ??10), one of the students.
Slates said that between six and eight female assailants then pepper-sprayed and physically attacked her and her two companions, Heather Brock (COL ??10) and Kayla Fossen (COL ??10), and that one of the assailants pulled her hair and kicked her. When Slates turned around, she saw three assailants kicking and punching Brock, who was on the ground.
Slates said she then tried to call 911, but one of the suspects attempted to wrestle her to the ground and two others took her cell phone. The assailant who had grabbed her hair then brandished a knife and ??poked? her with it, she said.
Brock said that she was disturbed by the assailants?? demeanor during the assault.
??They laughed the whole time while they were kicking me, pulling my hair, spraying the pepper spray,? she said. ??I think that has to be the most frightening part ?? that this was fun to them.?
Slates said the fight ended after Fossen punched the assailant holding Slates, after which the assailant yelled and ran off with her companions.
The three students then went to the U Street Metro station five blocks away and called the Metropolitan Police Department, Slates said. She and Fossen spoke with the police while Brock, who had sustained a stab wound in the arm, checked herself into Washington Central Hospital.
MPD is investigating the assault but has not yet made any arrests.
Fossen described the assailants as black girls between 18 and 23 years old. She said they were dressed more casually than the rest of the people in the crowd, ??which made them stand out after the concert.?
Slates said she had seen the assailants in an altercation with a patron at the entrance to the 9:30 Club just minutes before the incident. She said she did not see the assailants inside the club.
The only property stolen was Brock??s and Slates?? cell phones, Slates said.
Slates said she believes she and her friends were victims of a random act of violence and could not have avoided the incident.
??I??d heard that [the area] was kind of sketchy, but I hadn??t, and still haven??t, heard of anything happening to anyone else,? she said.
Kisha Shorter, marketing and public relations manager of the 9:30 Club, said that to protect customers, the club employs 15 to 20 security personnel per night, depending on the number of tickets sold. Four staff members stay at the front entrance and check tickets and identification. Others stand in specific areas throughout the club or act as ??floaters? who thread the crowd and monitor the back alley and parking lot. The club also hires off-duty police officers to stand at each corner of the building and in the parking lot.
Shorter added that if patrons feel unsafe, they can ask any of the staff members or hired police officers for an escort.
??I feel horrible that this incident happened near the 9:30 Club, even though it didn??t happen on our premises,? Shorter said. ??We try 100 percent to make sure everything is safe for our customers.?
In late January, a 17-year-old was shot and killed at a U Street Club in late January, causing many District officials to consider banning underage individuals from nightclubs. The movement received much opposition from those who did not want to prohibit teenagers from attending clubs like 9:30, saying that this club was particularly strict in preventing underage drinking. District Councilman Jim Graham introduced legislation in February banning minors from clubs in response to the murder, but a decision has not yet been made.
Brock said she will take several days off from school and return home to recover. She plans to return after Easter Break.
??I am taking a leave of absence, mostly because I wanted to see my family,? Brock said. ??My pain medication is a narcotic, so I wouldn??t have been able to perform well in class. Coming home seemed like the best option.?
Fossen said, coming from southwest Minneapolis, the incident was painful but also a wake-up call.
??It was a learning experience for a Midwestern girl and a bit of a rite of passage,? Fossen said. ??Since the event, almost every city-dweller I??ve talked to has experienced a similar event ?? even my chaplain. I??m just thankful we all came out fine.?
Of the three students, only Fossen said she believes that she will return to the 9:30 Club after the incident. Brock said she had a ticket for another concert later in the month, but that she is hoping the club will offer her a refund.
??Going there would just bring back too many bad memories,? Brock said. ??All of my friends from home want to go, though. They want to come with me and roll in with some baseball bats.?
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Originally posted by you be betty:
and just as i was starting to be allowed to go to shows again after the shooting...
did your parents determine that going to shows in the U St are had become safer since the shooting, or did they just notice that the media attention had died down?
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpPgD-6km6c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpPgD-6km6c)
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Originally posted by you be betty:
and just as i was starting to be allowed to go to shows again after the shooting...
did your parents determine that going to shows in the U St are had become safer since the shooting, or did they just notice that the media attention had died down? [/b]
it was kind of a triple threat combination of the media attention dying down, of my informing them that the black cat and 9:30 would likely be protected BECAUSE they are so exceptional with safety, and of my A in AP English.
but i still haven't been to any club shows...i almost went to one last week, and i know that i would have been permitted.
i feel kind of bad that i keep putting my mom through the ringer on this stuff. she is trying to be as fair as she can with me (it's my dad who goes nuts when i go to clubs), but what's a parent to do when they hear all this?
even i thought the shooting was a freak accident. and i don't take the metro to the club and i know the surrounding area is seedy, but i mean...Cold War Kids...three innocent girls...could have been me.
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i heard a bouncer got attacked. was it thatguy or is he still on vacation?
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Originally posted by bigyellow100:
i heard a bouncer got attacked. was it thatguy or is he still on vacation?
i don't know if it was thatguy or not, but he is back.
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Originally posted by PigIron:
I try to cab it every time. I hate walking to the metro from the club, but I'm scared shitless when it comes to tons of things, so maybe its just me.
on occasions where i'm going to shows solo, i always stick closeby to a group of people walking back to the metro. safety in numbers....well that's the usually the case unless you're being outnumbered by a gang of a dozen or so armed with pepper spray.
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Originally posted by bigyellow100:
i heard a bouncer got attacked. was it thatguy or is he still on vacation?
we don't have bouncers. none of the staph was attacked, including me.
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...I thought this was about Roma FC
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This is something my sister talked about when She was in DC a few days ago. What got here are folks regardless of age who are committing crimes for no reasons other than for the sake of it. It's clear that the attackers have no regard for other people's lives. They need to be off the street. This type of behavior shouldn't be tolerated at all!
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doomie preview post can be your best friend too :)
capiche :)
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wait - were the girls hot?
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpPgD-6km6c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpPgD-6km6c)
i love the close-up of the 'fro at 1:42... pure eeeeeeeeevil :)
oh, and rusty: yes, they were lingerie-wearing supermodels that made out with each other between kicking the shit out of innocent bystanders, you f*ckin insensitive dolt. grow up.
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[/QUOTE]on occasions where i'm going to shows solo, i always stick closeby to a group of people walking back to the metro. safety in numbers....well that's the usually the case unless you're being outnumbered by a gang of a dozen or so armed with pepper spray. [/QB][/QUOTE]
If I go to the club, I'm with people. Even if there are a few of them, I'm taking a cab.
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Maybe they *SHOULD* pass that law banning underage kids from clubs...
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Originally posted by RustyOrgan:
Maybe they *SHOULD* pass that law banning underage kids from clubs...
It said early 20s.
And i'm wondering if this was the reaction to the so-called spitting on the bouncer. Some people don't take kindly to that kind of stuff.
Either way i never go to 930 Club alone or via metro, i drive or go with at least 3-6 friends.
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You guys are all a bunch of pussies. 9:30 is in a decent part of town. shit happens. whatever. grow the fuck up. (waaa... i don't go alone! waaa... i take a cab! waaa... .my pussy hurts!)
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You guys want REAL DANGER? Try DRIVING around the neighborhood streets of Springfield.
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or buy a mattress!
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
Originally posted by RustyOrgan:
Maybe they *SHOULD* pass that law banning underage kids from clubs...
It said early 20s.
And i'm wondering if this was the reaction to the so-called spitting on the bouncer. Some people don't take kindly to that kind of stuff.
Either way i never go to 930 Club alone or via metro, i drive or go with at least 3-6 friends. [/b]
Underage means under my age. No one younger than me should be allowed to any show, then I won't ever feel old (maybe alone, but not old) :D
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I used to go by myself all the time, no one person or gang was stupid enough to mess with me. :mad:
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
You guys want REAL DANGER? Try DRIVING around the neighborhood streets of Springfield.
http://166.94.9.135/police/reports/reports2007/011607springfieldrobstabb.htm (http://166.94.9.135/police/reports/reports2007/011607springfieldrobstabb.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/030607robmetro.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/030607robmetro.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/030207robbacklick.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/030207robbacklick.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/021207homeinvasion.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/021207homeinvasion.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/020807hotelrobbery.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/020807hotelrobbery.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/020207fatalloisdale.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/020207fatalloisdale.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/011007carjacking.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/011007carjacking.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/010206springfieldrobberycopy.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/010206springfieldrobberycopy.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/122606_stabbingspringfieldmall.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/122606_stabbingspringfieldmall.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/122606_maliciouswoundingspringfield.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/122606_maliciouswoundingspringfield.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/122106indecentexposure.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/122106indecentexposure.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/121806springfieldhomicide.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/121806springfieldhomicide.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/121106robberyspringfield.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/121106robberyspringfield.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/120706boabankrobspringfield.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/120706boabankrobspringfield.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/112906_fatalpedestrian.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/112906_fatalpedestrian.htm)
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/112106_homicidespringfield.htm (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2006/112106_homicidespringfield.htm)
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Didn't realize you worked for the police department.
Funny, nearly every one of the crimes you dug up had suspects that were Black. What are you, a racist like Dupek?
I'm glad I don't live anywhere near the Springfield Mall area, where most of these crimes seem to be concentrated. Try punching in a zip code several miles to the west of there, and then you can really scare me!
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Originally posted by RustyOrgan:
You guys are all a bunch of pussies. 9:30 is in a decent part of town. shit happens. whatever. grow the fuck up. (waaa... i don't go alone! waaa... i take a cab! waaa... .my pussy hurts!)
I agree...815 V ST isn't exactly Piney Meeting House Rd. MD, but it's hardly Benning Road either.
BTW...if anyone needs help with their hurting pussy I'd be glad to help in any way I can.
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Originally posted by RonniStar:
This is something my sister talked about when She was in DC a few days ago. What got here are folks regardless of age who are committing crimes for no reasons other than for the sake of it. It's clear that the attackers have no regard for other people's lives. They need to be off the street. This type of behavior shouldn't be tolerated at all!
way to make a strong stand! speak up for what you believe!! never give up!!!
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Originally posted by DeathFromAbove1979:
And i'm wondering if this was the reaction to the so-called spitting on the bouncer. Some people don't take kindly to that kind of stuff.
the article was poorly written (it's NBC4, what do you expect?), but i think they meant that the GIRL GANG spat on the bouncer before turning on the damsels in distress
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Three Assaulted Near Popular Club (http://www.thehoya.com/news/040307/news1.cfm)
Fossen described the assailants as black girls
A distillation of the pertinent facts. This nightclub violence is a black problem, not a youth problem.
The victims were caucasian, the perps were african. It sounds like a Hate Crime. But this is never mentioned.
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move the club to a hardcore "ms-13" part of town. then whitey won't have to be worried about be bothered by the blacks. blacks fear latino gangs and hate mexicans for creating such a fear that they once solely controlled and exploited.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
A distillation of the pertinent facts. This nightclub violence is a black problem, not a youth problem.
this isn't "nightclub violence", it's people getting beaten up for sport on the street
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I can't wait for DCist to start covering this.
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Originally posted by walkonby:
blacks fear latino gangs and hate mexicans for creating such a fear that they once solely controlled and exploited.
MS-13 is Salvadoran.
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can we stop calling all hispanic people mexicans. we really dont have many mexicans in this area.
i used to live a few blocks from the club and never heard anything about assaults. i feel bad that it happened, but it's not an everyday occurance. btw, violence happens everywhere, it's just not always covered by the media. now that that bill was proposed were going to hear about club violence a lot.
i doubt it was a hate crime, they probably just wanted to fight. for whatever reason some people get off on that--why do u think fights clubs are popular.
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
A distillation of the pertinent facts. This nightclub violence is a black problem, not a youth problem.
this isn't "nightclub violence", it's people getting beaten up for sport on the street [/b]
Then why was there mention of the 930 club in both news articles, Einstein? Riddle me this.
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Originally posted by walkonby:
blacks fear latino gangs and hate mexicans for creating such a fear that they once solely controlled and exploited.
MS-13 is Salvadoran. [/b]
sorry, my stereotyping isn't what it used to be.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Then why was there mention of the 930 club in both news articles, Einstein? Riddle me this.
it's called sensationalism... not that a Fox News junkie like yourself would understand :D "girls walking to metro victims of random violence" doesn't make it headline news. tie it in with "club violence", the flavor of the week, and you've got a lead story. wow, imagine that, questioning the media...
and thanks for bringing in the racist angle, you're always dependable for that!
agree with those who said this is being blown out of proportion: one attack several blocks away from a club that has an excellent record of safety, and all of a sudden 930 is located in a war zone. sheesh. i walk home from the club every time i go there (which is very often) and i've never felt unsafe. if someone is attacked on their way home from the smithsonian or the kennedy center, are they going to be labelled as unsafe places too?!?
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Fossen described the assailants as black girls between 18 and 23 years old. She said they were dressed more casually than the rest of the people in the crowd, "which made them stand out after the concert."
Granted I wasn't there. But how exactly does one dress "mores casually" for a rock show at the 9:30 Club? Or were they just lacking the correct hipster attire?
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where was Nightclub Bill during all of this??!!!
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Didn't realize you worked for the police department.
Funny, nearly every one of the crimes you dug up had suspects that were Black. What are you, a racist like Dupek?
I'm glad I don't live anywhere near the Springfield Mall area, where most of these crimes seem to be concentrated. Try punching in a zip code several miles to the west of there, and then you can really scare me!
Just google "west springfield shield." Not a month goes by without some malicious woundings, assaults, and home invasions.
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d.c. isn't safe? i love a town where people sleep on boxed benches and street grates and talk to themselves all day long, begging for a life never strived for; where others in suits parade with scowls and no time of day or a simple smile to anyone who says hello; where everyone seems to be a foreign counterpart to everyone else and can never seem to understand what the other person is properly saying; where streets are littered with the laziness of human disposal and rats the size of trained monkeys are sprinting into the storms drains of piss and vomit excitement from the fun of the bar/club adventure; where overpriced rent traps sucker the ones who feel the needs of convience outweigh the blindness of personal safety. d.c. is like any other town i know . . . just quicker on the draw of getting beat, bothered, bemused, bewildered, mugged, raped, or killed in.
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what sweetcell said.
Also, I've never been mugged, jumped, or attacked in the city. Or anywhere for that matter. And i'm usually by myself. I'm guessing because I look poor and dumpey...which, I mean I am. But I'm not going to pretend it doesn't happen and honestly, I think a sense of caution is what's helped me exist relatively unscathed. I'm not going to let fear keep me away from rock shows...ever, but I'm not going to skip down the street swinging a purse either. Actually, I never carry a purse to shows. I just stuff what i need in my pockets. Maybe that's also why I've never been mugged.
I hate the fact that the news is bringing the proximity of the club into the event, as it's obvious that they're coattailing it onto the january shooting events.
Random senseless events are always the scariest.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
and thanks for bringing in the racist angle, you're always dependable for that!
And how did I bring it in, then? It was a part of the news item. Am I to be held responsible for the sun rising in the east, as well..?
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Originally posted by ggw?:
Just google "west springfield shield." Not a month goes by without some malicious woundings, assaults, and home invasions.
And Springfield used to be such a nice place to live. It was a very peaceful town back when I lived there.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
and thanks for bringing in the racist angle, you're always dependable for that!
And how did I bring it in, then? It was a part of the news item. Am I to be held responsible for the sun rising in the east, as well..? [/b]
no, the chinks are responsible for that!
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Then why was there mention of the 930 club in both news articles, Einstein? Riddle me this.
it's called sensationalism... not that a Fox News junkie like yourself would understand :D "girls walking to metro victims of random violence" doesn't make it headline news. tie it in with "club violence", the flavor of the week, and you've got a lead story. wow, imagine that, questioning the media...
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So you don't think it's of any interest at all that a group of 8 or so girls randomly attacked people about a block from the club? You think it's purely "sensationalism" to mention that they just left 9:30 just moments before this happened?
Are there any facts here that you do feel were worth reporting? Or should the whole story just have been ignored and chalked up to "Shit Happens"?
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this reminds me of a story, when i was in Boston. one night at a metro stop these drunk white girls were being obnoxious and these Portuguese girls were finally like, "shut the fuck up" and the white girl called her a whore...fighting ensued, someone got hit with some kind of object...cops come....white girls claim they did nothing at all, portuguese girls arrested.
cops never even asked us what happened and we were on the platform the WHOLE time!
not that that's what happened here.
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if you care about about media and fear, read this
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/04/worry_about_the_right_things.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/04/worry_about_the_right_things.html)
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Here's what I don't understand is the attack occured at Vermont and V street which is near the gas station correct... And then the Hoya story says they walked five blocks to the Metro which would mean they went to the 13th street entrance and not the one only one block away near the memorial. It would seem to me they didn't know the neighborhood very well.
I never walk up Vermont to get to the club as trying to cross Florida Ave near the gas station is treacherous. I always go down Florida to U and walk past the Velvet which often has people milling about outside.
It would seem to me that the well light Florida avenue block along the parking structure would be a better choice then cutting through a seedy gas station to a less vehicle traveled street.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Three Assaulted Near Popular Club (http://www.thehoya.com/news/040307/news1.cfm)
Fossen described the assailants as black girls
A distillation of the pertinent facts. This nightclub violence is a black problem, not a youth problem.
The victims were caucasian, the perps were african. It sounds like a Hate Crime. But this is never mentioned. [/b]
THAT is how you brought in the racist angle, IMO - your assertion that the only pertinent fact is that the assilants were black (your words).
bombay: good point. no, definitely worth noting it happened near a club. i guess my point was mostly to counter his assertion that "it's in the news, so it must be true".
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i walked from the Verizon Center to the 930 club one sunday night after a Caps game, to go to a show at 930...lemme tell ya, theres some sketchy streets around there.
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bombay :So you don't think it's of any interest at all that a group of 8 or so girls randomly attacked people about a block from the club? You think it's purely "sensationalism" to mention that they just left 9:30 just moments before this happened?
I do when the city is still up in the air over the possibility of keeping kids out of all-ages shows.
If the girls had been attacked leaving, say, The Shakespeare Theare, or Wooley Mammoth theatre would that be the lead fact in the story?
My money is on probably not. The teaser would probably be "Girls attacked by random girl gang in NW DC". Not "Girls attacked by random girl gang after an evening of culture".
The fact that they have to mention "popular nightclub" in the first 5 words makes the story that much sexier.
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Originally posted by andyrichter:
During the assault, police said, the three women cried for help as the mob of female suspects seemed to enjoy the beating as they LOLed.
They really wrote this? zOMG!
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"GIRLS ATTACKED AT THE 930 CLUB" Big scary guy with tatoos and piercings not considered a suspect
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Three Assaulted Near Popular Club (http://www.thehoya.com/news/040307/news1.cfm)
Fossen described the assailants as black girls
A distillation of the pertinent facts. This nightclub violence is a black problem, not a youth problem.
The victims were caucasian, the perps were african. It sounds like a Hate Crime. But this is never mentioned. [/b]
THAT is how you brought in the racist angle, IMO - your assertion that the only pertinent fact is that the assilants were black (your words).
bombay: good point. no, definitely worth noting it happened near a club. i guess my point was mostly to counter his assertion that "it's in the news, so it must be true". [/b]
Guilty as charged.
I stand by my statement. Nightclub violence is an african, rather than a youth problem. All the recent incidents back up this assertion.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
it's called sensationalism... not that a Fox News junkie like yourself would understand :)
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Then why was there mention of the 930 club in both news articles, Einstein? Riddle me this.
it's called sensationalism... not that a Fox News junkie like yourself would understand :D "girls walking to metro victims of random violence" doesn't make it headline news. tie it in with "club violence", the flavor of the week, and you've got a lead story. wow, imagine that, questioning the media...
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So you don't think it's of any interest at all that a group of 8 or so girls randomly attacked people about a block from the club? You think it's purely "sensationalism" to mention that they just left 9:30 just moments before this happened?
Are there any facts here that you do feel were worth reporting? Or should the whole story just have been ignored and chalked up to "Shit Happens"? [/b]
Just because something is fcat does not mean it is relevant. Sure the supposed attackers were black. Sure the girls had just left the 930 club. Who cares? If something being fact was all that was needed for it to be reported I want to know why none of the girls had a car to drive to the show. Was it out of gas, was it repossessed, was it in the shop getting repaired, what? Also we need to know how many (if any) of these girls were left handed and the shoe size of each. All just as relevant as the race and recent location of each person involved.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
I stand by my statement. Nightclub violence is an african, rather than a youth problem. All the recent incidents back up this assertion.
Yeah, definitely. Cause when you pop up in the middle of a mosh pit with white boys with broken noses & fractured arms and what not, you most definitely will find black folk at the root of the problem.
Global warming? Black folk. Blame 'em.
Higher taxes? Black folk.
WMDs??? Hidden by black folk.
Grand Wizard Dupek strikes again. You are a simple mofo . . . .
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there there Director play nice... the vice principals office is not where you want to spend your afternoon.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Then why was there mention of the 930 club in both news articles, Einstein? Riddle me this.
good copy
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Originally posted by le sonick:
cops never even asked us what happened and we were on the platform the WHOLE time!
Your Canadian, your statements would have been inadmissible in court.
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9:30 Club has and always will be in a shitty part of DC.
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Wow, that sounds almost as hot as the catfighting on Lost last night.
Originally posted by le sonick:
this reminds me of a story, when i was in Boston. one night at a metro stop these drunk white girls were being obnoxious and these Portuguese girls were finally like, "shut the fuck up" and the white girl called her a whore...fighting ensued, someone got hit with some kind of object...cops come....white girls claim they did nothing at all, portuguese girls arrested.
cops never even asked us what happened and we were on the platform the WHOLE time!
not that that's what happened here.
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HIV is an African problem. What does Africa have to do with the problems in DC nightclubs?
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Three Assaulted Near Popular Club (http://www.thehoya.com/news/040307/news1.cfm)
Fossen described the assailants as black girls
A distillation of the pertinent facts. This nightclub violence is a black problem, not a youth problem.
The victims were caucasian, the perps were african. It sounds like a Hate Crime. But this is never mentioned. [/b]
THAT is how you brought in the racist angle, IMO - your assertion that the only pertinent fact is that the assilants were black (your words).
bombay: good point. no, definitely worth noting it happened near a club. i guess my point was mostly to counter his assertion that "it's in the news, so it must be true". [/b]
Guilty as charged.
I stand by my statement. Nightclub violence is an african, rather than a youth problem. All the recent incidents back up this assertion. [/b]
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Originally posted by RatBastard:
Just because something is fcat does not mean it is relevant. Sure the supposed attackers were black. Sure the girls had just left the 930 club. Who cares? If something being fact was all that was needed for it to be reported I want to know why none of the girls had a car to drive to the show. Was it out of gas, was it repossessed, was it in the shop getting repaired, what? Also we need to know how many (if any) of these girls were left handed and the shoe size of each. All just as relevant as the race and recent location of each person involved.
Good point. They probably should have just written the story as:
Small group of people attacked by larger group of people in Northwest.
because everything else is pretty much irrelevant.
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Originally posted by Rupert Pupkin:
9:30 Club has and always will be in a shitty part of DC.
Haven't you seen all the condos being developed around the 9:30 club? The biggest worry should be all those Not In My Backyard types who start complaining about shows taking place at the club, even though they should be fully aware of it's presence when they buy.
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Crime! Everywhere!! (http://crimemap.dc.gov/presentation/query.asp)
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Originally posted by kosmo:
Originally posted by Rupert Pupkin:
9:30 Club has and always will be in a shitty part of DC.
Haven't you seen all the condos being developed around the 9:30 club?[/b]
i dunno, Rupert Pupkin's analysis seemed much more cogent than yours. i think i'm going to take his side on this one.
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point taken... nice condo's or not it can still be a shitty part of town...
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Originally posted by Buck Satan:
Originally posted by le sonick:
cops never even asked us what happened and we were on the platform the WHOLE time!
Your Canadian, your statements would have been inadmissible in court. [/b]
hahaha, funny funny!
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
I stand by my statement. Nightclub violence is an african, rather than a youth problem. All the recent incidents back up this assertion.
Yeah, definitely. Cause when you pop up in the middle of a mosh pit with white boys with broken noses & fractured arms and what not, you most definitely will find black folk at the root of the problem.
Global warming? Black folk. Blame 'em.
Higher taxes? Black folk.
WMDs??? Hidden by black folk.
Grand Wizard Dupek strikes again. You are a simple mofo . . . . [/b]
dont forget that it was the blacks who migrated from Africa to America that started the bloody, bloody civil war in the 1800s!!!!!! damn them!!!
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Grand Wizard Dupek strikes again. You are a simple mofo . . . .
watch out, dupek, or TheDirector will hunt you down and beat you with his, ahem, "large organ".
oh, wait, based on previous threads you might actually want that... :D
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Crime! Everywhere!! (http://crimemap.dc.gov/presentation/query.asp)
815 V St is safer than Wisconsin & M St.
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Is that based on total number of crimes, or crimes per persons who traverse that address? I'll bet many, many more people traverse Wisconsin and M than 815V on an annual basis.
Originally posted by ggw?:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Crime! Everywhere!! (http://crimemap.dc.gov/presentation/query.asp)
815 V St is safer than Wisconsin & M St. [/b]
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Originally posted by kosmo:
point taken... nice condo's or not it can still be a shitty part of town...
(i was being sarcastic, of course you're right)
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Facts are facts. I'm only aware of the details of the latest three incidents, but in each case the perps were AmerAfrican.
Do you dispute this?
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
HIV is an African problem. What does Africa have to do with the problems in DC nightclubs?
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HIV is only in Africa now? Sheez I need to start reading the news more...
Violence is a problem of society not race...the fact that it was black kids who attacked the 930'ers is partly because DC is what????80% black these days? So plain math would suggest that 80% of DC crime would be committed by blacks.
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Dupek....ever watch Cops? How many drunken white bullies get hauled away for beating their wives? Again, you are saying that a problem of society is just a black problem when it's not.
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Actually, I read somewhere recently that DC was now less than 50% Black. But maybe I'm off on that.
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
HIV is an African problem. What does Africa have to do with the problems in DC nightclubs?
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HIV is only in Africa now? Sheez I need to start reading the news more...
Violence is a problem of society not race...the fact that it was black kids who attacked the 930'ers is partly because DC is what????80% black these days? So plain math would suggest that 80% of DC crime would be committed by blacks. [/QB]
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Originally posted by kosmo:
Here's what I don't understand is the attack occured at Vermont and V street which is near the gas station correct... And then the Hoya story says they walked five blocks to the Metro which would mean they went to the 13th street entrance and not the one only one block away near the memorial. It would seem to me they didn't know the neighborhood very well.
I never walk up Vermont to get to the club as trying to cross Florida Ave near the gas station is treacherous. I always go down Florida to U and walk past the Velvet which often has people milling about outside.
It would seem to me that the well light Florida avenue block along the parking structure would be a better choice then cutting through a seedy gas station to a less vehicle traveled street.
Well, the article said they were all class of 2010, so freshmen I'm assuming. So yeah, they probably didn't know the neighborhood well. But if eight people jumped me I might not be thinking straight anyway. That said, I know someone who was mugged at the memorial entrance at a not so late in the evening time. So pick your poison I guess.
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Originally posted by kosmo:
there there Director play nice... the vice principals office is not where you want to spend your afternoon.
My bad, Kosmo. I'll chill. I'm good, I'm good.
Please don't give a referral to the Vice Principal's office, though. One more & my right to play the requisite role of angry black cat in 9:30's The Dupek World may be revoked. :D
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
HIV is an African problem. What does Africa have to do with the problems in DC nightclubs?
You can chill on that, fam. It's a non-issue. Bono's taking care of that . . . ;)
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Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
I stand by my statement. Nightclub violence is an african, rather than a youth problem. All the recent incidents back up this assertion.
Yeah, definitely. Cause when you pop up in the middle of a mosh pit with white boys with broken noses & fractured arms and what not, you most definitely will find black folk at the root of the problem.
Global warming? Black folk. Blame 'em.
Higher taxes? Black folk.
WMDs??? Hidden by black folk.
Grand Wizard Dupek strikes again. You are a simple mofo . . . . [/b]
dont forget that it was the blacks who migrated from Africa to America that started the bloody, bloody civil war in the 1800s!!!!!! damn them!!! [/b]
Yeah. Silly Africans. What were they thinking??? Matter a fact, Matt & Trey from South Park need to change the title from "Blame Canada" to "Blame The Blacks".
Yeah. African bashing is the new black. :roll: Pun intended.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Grand Wizard Dupek strikes again. You are a simple mofo . . . .
watch out, dupek, or TheDirector will hunt you down and beat you with his, ahem, "large organ".
oh, wait, based on previous threads you might actually want that... :D [/b]
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I don't know why everyone is ganging up against me? All I really want is to hold hands around this sunshiny globe of happiness, sharing and caring with all peoples no matter their color, creed or religion.
<img src="http://www.cylon.org/films/apes/poa-1021.jpg" alt=" - " />
Except for those damn dirty Arabs!
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<img src="http://www.judaicaheaven.com/stores/judaicaheaven/catalog/bs-010.jpg" alt=" - " />
Isn't Israel the 51st state?
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I don't know why everyone is ganging up against me?
come on, you love to provoke reactions here, and clearly you push the envelope of whats accepted just to get your name quoted...
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Originally posted by lagos:
come on, you love to provoke reactions here, and clearly you push the envelope of whats accepted just to get your name quoted...
But isn't this true, maybe to a lesser degree, perhaps, of everyone?
And there is no envelope. Everything is accepted. This isn't the Taleban, you know...
Or maybe it is rather a Taleban of the far-left.
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I'm not usually an overly-cautious person, but this club violence even has me a little spooked. Just to be on the safe side, I'm not coming anywhere near the Director tonight.
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
you most definitely will find black volk at the root of the problem.
Global warming? Black volk. Blame 'em.
Higher taxes? Black volk.
WMDs??? Hidden by black volk.
Grand Wizard Dupek strikes again. You are a simple mofo . . . .
Are you threatening me?
<img src="http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/cornholio.jpg" alt=" - " />
I don't like peeps who use the word, "Volk", as in EIN VOLK to describe groups of peeps. It reeks of nazism.
<img src="http://simpletoremember.com/vitals/images/hdoll.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by nkotb:
I'm not usually an overly-cautious person, but this club violence even has me a little spooked. Just to be on the safe side, I'm not coming anywhere near the Director tonight.
Yeah. Statistics show that I'm bound to rob, stab, or maim you. It all depends on my mood. You see a black guy at the show tonight coming your way, I suggest you & your kinfolk run for them thar hills. ;)
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People, people: there's no reason to get upset on 930.com today. This should be a happy day! The new Avril Lavigne LP just leaked on OiNK. It's called The Best Damn Thing. The Best Damn Thing! Go figure! Doesn't that put all our silly feuding and fighting in perspective?
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by nkotb:
I'm not usually an overly-cautious person, but this club violence even has me a little spooked. Just to be on the safe side, I'm not coming anywhere near the Director tonight.
Yeah. Statistics show that I'm bound to rob, stab, or maim you. It all depends on my mood. You see a black guy at the show tonight coming your way, I suggest you & your kinfolk run for them thar hills. ;) [/b]
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/team_dupek/7a1a19e9.jpg" alt=" - " />
Iron Maiden! (http://www.eventsounds.com/wav/excelnt.wav)
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
The new Avril Lavigne LP just leaked on OiNK.
Care to hook a brother up?
vansmack@msn.com
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Care to hook a brother up?
vansmack@msn.com
I do not know how to email a 60mb folder.
I can post a YSI if you like.
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Poast of the day!
Btw, were you aware that chocolate Jesus' weiner (http://www.pugbus.net/artman/publish/04017002_11_sweetjesus.shtml) was stolen?
And I personally declare a phatwah on the artist who created the lard Mohammed! (http://www.ptgustan.com/Joslyn_Main.html) Originally posted by walkonby:
d.c. isn't safe? i love a town where people sleep on boxed benches and street grates and talk to themselves all day long, begging for a life never strived for; where others in suits parade with scowls and no time of day or a simple smile to anyone who says hello; where everyone seems to be a foreign counterpart to everyone else and can never seem to understand what the other person is properly saying; where streets are littered with the laziness of human disposal and rats the size of trained monkeys are sprinting into the storms drains of piss and vomit excitement from the fun of the bar/club adventure; where overpriced rent traps sucker the ones who feel the needs of convience outweigh the blindness of personal safety. d.c. is like any other town i know . . . just quicker on the draw of getting beat, bothered, bemused, bewildered, mugged, raped, or killed in.
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
I do not know how to email a 60mb folder.
I can post a YSI if you like.
YSI is fine or email the songs individually (10 MB limit per email, 2 GB limit total). I would be stoked!
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Originally posted by vansmack:
YSI is fine or email the songs individually (10 MB limit per email, 2 GB limit total). I would be stoked!
Do you serious want it? Fair warning - it's an edited version.
I don't want to go to the trouble of YSIing it if you are just BSing.
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
Do you serious want it? Fair warning - it's an edited version.
Have you ever heard me joke about Avril Lavigne?
I am dead serious when I say that I am looking forward to Avril's new album, even if the leak is edited. I will get the "adult" version when it's released.
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OK hold on a few, I'll up it.
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
OK hold on a few, I'll up it.
Sweet. Thanks.
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
cold war kids ...
Wait, it can't be Cold War Kids. I saw this story on the news last night, and they said it happened "last night" -- Cold War Kids was last week!!
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Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
cold war kids ...
Wait, it can't be Cold War Kids. I saw this story on the news last night, and they said it happened "last night" -- Cold War Kids was last week!! [/b]
they lied to you!
or something happened again last night :D
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Interesting that it took a week for the story to hit, and then it hit in papers AND the 11:00 news. Odd.
And it gives me the creeps. I very often walk 2 - 3 blocks alone to my car during the week from a show. By chance I was at the Cold War Kids show with a friend (man in 40s) whom I was giving a ride to, so we walked together to Vermont.
To me, I drive during the week because it's not safe walking the 15 blocks from my place in Logan and I'm not going to have any drinks, but maybe it's the 2-3 blocks around the club that's not safe while that GANG of GALS is on the loose...
And I too was wondering how on earth anyone could dress "more casually" than clubgoers, to the extent of drawing attention to yourself as NOT a clubgoer!
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Is it okay to hate if you have been a victim?
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Originally posted by Bags:
but maybe it's the 2-3 blocks around the club that's not safe while that GANG of GALS is on the loose...
i don't know where around logan circle you live, but isn't your area just as dicey, if not more so, than the streets surrounding the club? seems like i hear about a fair amount of assaults by juveniles in the logan area
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http://download.yousendit.com/CE8E65641E629A29 (http://download.yousendit.com/CE8E65641E629A29)
Avril
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I don't know -- you could be right. I'm on 13th...and I park in a garage in my building, so I haven't seen much and am not worried coming home on a Wednesday night at 12:30 p.m., say. I know east of 12th feels dicey, but I feel pretty comfortable going west to 14th, etc.
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Originally posted by Bags:
but maybe it's the 2-3 blocks around the club that's not safe while that GANG of GALS is on the loose...
i don't know where around logan circle you live, but isn't your area just as dicey, if not more so, than the streets surrounding the club? seems like i hear about a fair amount of assaults by juveniles in the logan area [/b]
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
Avril
I always knew she wanted to be my girlfiend!
I love it already!
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Originally posted by Bags:
I don't know -- you could be right. I'm on 13th...and I park in a garage in my building, so I haven't seen much and am not worried coming home on a Wednesday night at 12:30 p.m., say. I know east of 12th feels dicey, but I feel pretty comfortable going west to 14th, etc.
not to scare you or anything, but i've definitely read about marauding gangs of youths attacking people in logan, similar to this situation ... but of course it doesn't make the 11pm news unless they attack a group of georgetown students who just left the 9:30 club
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Originally posted by Bags:
my place in Logan
psst:
http://loganupdates.blogspot.com/ (http://loganupdates.blogspot.com/)
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the obsession with race among some here is really disturbing...
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Hooray! I award 5 self righteous points to Doctor Doom! Excellent back-patting work!
And now, back to the topic...
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
the obsession with race among some here is really disturbing...
I agree.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
[QB] I don't know why everyone is ganging up against me? All I really want is to hold hands around this sunshiny globe of happiness, sharing and caring with all peoples no matter their color, creed or religion.
With the comment you made, you're more interested in starting flame war than solving. Have you forgot about Dimebag Darrell getting killed in an Ohio Nightclub in Dec. 2004? Have you forgot about a man being stabbed to death at a Corrosion of Conformity concert in Tampa, FL. almost 2 years? My point is that violence can happen anywhere. Whether it's inside or outside the club; whether it's in the hood or the suburbs. Whether overseas or in our own backyard, violence doesn't discriminate!
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Originally posted by RonniStar:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
[QB] I don't know why everyone is ganging up against me? All I really want is to hold hands around this sunshiny globe of happiness, sharing and caring with all peoples no matter their color, creed or religion.
With the comment you made, you're more interested in starting flame war than solving. Have you forgot about Dimebag Darrell getting killed in an Ohio Nightclub in Dec. 2004? Have you forgot about a man being stabbed to death at a Corrosion of Conformity concert in Tampa, FL. almost 2 years? My point is that violence can happen anywhere. Whether it's inside or outside the club; whether it's in the hood or the suburbs. Whether overseas or in our own backyard, violence doesn't discriminate! [/b]
Yeah, basically. But Grand Wizard Dupek doesn't quite get that. Let's just blame the black folk & move along . . . .
:roll:
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Is it okay to hate if you have been a victim?
i think a better question is "is hating the best thing to do?" (or even the only thing to do), to which i believe the answer is no. did the perp get that person once, or for the rest of their life? how long should the victimization go on? i realize it's easy for me to engage in arm-chair psychology ("get some help") having never been victimized myself...
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So is this like a female pack of droogies or what?
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Is it okay to hate if you have been a victim?
i think a better question is "is hating the best thing to do?" (or even the only thing to do), to which i believe the answer is no. did the perp get that person once, or for the rest of their life? how long should the victimization go on? i realize it's easy for me to engage in arm-chair psychology ("get some help") having never been victimized myself... [/b]
canadians...
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Last night my friend and I walked from the club down Vermont Ave. to U St and then on to Coppi's at 14th & U and then we walked back the same way later on. Nobody mugged us or even looked threatening. Nor did we observe any raging packs of black girls roaming the streets.
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Originally posted by twangirl:
Last night my friend and I walked from the club down Vermont Ave. to U St and then on to Coppi's at 14th & U and then we walked back the same way later on. Nobody mugged us or even looked threatening. Nor did we observe any raging packs of black girls roaming the streets.
i've even heard that people live in this area and walk around it every day. the horrors, i can't imagine how they survive.
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a young man was killed in Nissan's parking lot either last year or the year before. So it happens everywhere. I don't feel scared when I leave the club and it's not going to stop me from attending shows. But I feel bad for the bouncer who got spit on because that is the lowest form of disrespect and it's just plain disgusting.
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Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Grand Wizard Dupek[...]blame the black folk
Damn, but some of these Wizards have grand ta-tas!
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/team_dupek/14d7c662.jpg" alt=" - " />
I still think many, if not most, regular maroons on this bboard are either living in the past...or are indeed truly stupid(and not just pretending).
I am not a racist at all, or no more or less than anyone else on this bboard. Maroons not included.
I DO like the topic of race & the politics of it, though, as it's the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Which also seems to me to be an invisible gorilla to many on this bboard.
Maybe a better anology is: In Soviet times it was forbidden for ordinary, run-of-the-mill Russians to listen to The Voice Of America on their shortwave radios...deemed by the state to be dangerous for the proletariat's ears. But what were the dissidents doing anyway? And what happened to the Soviet Union later as a result???
That's right, if you tell someone that something is forbidden then it becomes a secret desire. You're correct in saying I get a payoff from the reactions of dyed in the wool apparatchiks like yourself. If this was Soviet Russia, no doubt you would have already turned me into the NKVD, who would readilly ship both our asses to a Siberian uranium mine. Me, for behaviors contrary to the revolution...and you, well you can't be trusted by comrade Stalin anymore, for being a suspicious motherfucker who turns people in. Thanks a lot.
I say: Fuck the status quo! I say: Why don't you go back to the sixties where you all belong?!?
Pick up some groovy signs and march in the streets for gorbal harmony or freedom for the oppressed Afhgan freedom fighters, or something..? Stick it to the man! Anything. It suits you, grandly.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
I DO like the topic of race & the politics of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r06ft8xMqRM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r06ft8xMqRM)
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I'd also submit that the studiously outre and "noncomformist", the artistic and "creative people" who pride themselves on "marching to a different drum", in fact march in slavish lockstep politically, socially, and philosophically.
That's evidenced here all the time.
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Dupek, the Henry David Thoreau of our time.
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indeed, and like thoreau his ideas are very current - for the mid-19th century. and nice work comparing yourself to anti-soviet dissidents, very apt comparison :roll: i posit that prisoners of conscience in Siberia would have resented it immensely.
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
I say: Fuck the status quo! I say: Why don't you go back to the sixties where you all belong?!?
will do, as soon as (a) you figure out the physics of time travel, and (b) do the same yourself except set your dial to the 1860's. you'll be free to pet your invisible gorilla all you want.
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What is I drove thru downtown DC blaring a racist music CD in my convertable...not as a gesture of racism, but just because I bought the cd and wanted to hear what all the brouhaha was all about -to understand?
And it's off to the mines with you...you overly inquisitive intellectual, you!
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Why do you all take his bait....Dupek I'm guessing, is white. Wether he's racist or not is neither here nor there. Regardless, what's the big deal?...if you don't like racism then don't be racist.
It just pisses me off that white racists are censored and portrayed as some kind of outlaw yet it's socially acceptable to be black and racist, almost to the point of encouraged. If you don't think so just tune in to any black oriented radio or tv station and listen to the hate broadcast over our airwaves in the form off that disgusting rap and/or hip-hop music.
I learned very quickly that in America if you think a white person is a moron then that's your opinion, but if you think a black person is a moron then you're a racist.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
What is I drove thru downtown DC blaring a racist music CD in my convertable..
Dupek, are you a fan of Prussian Blue (http://www.prussianbluestore.com/)?
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Why do you all take his bait....Dupek I'm guessing, is white. Wether he's racist or not is neither here nor there. Regardless, what's the big deal?...if you don't like racism then don't be racist.
It just pisses me off that white racists are censored and portrayed as some kind of outlaw yet it's socially acceptable to be black and racist, almost to the point of encouraged. If you don't think so just tune in to any black oriented radio or tv station and listen to the hate broadcast over our airwaves in the form off that disgusting rap and/or hip-hop music.
I learned very quickly that in America if you think a white person is a moron then that's your opinion, but if you think a black person is a moron then you're a racist.
I think the distinction is that for the most part your so-called "black racist" have no power to have their hatred translate into detrimental consequences for their targets, where as the institutionalized racism practiced by "white racists", or virtually any other communities where stereotyping, isolation from others (asian, hispanic, semitic, etc.) has the organizational power to do real damage.
There could be an argument for the self-inflicted harm all racist experience from their limited world view, but to play the devils advocate, black racist are far more "moronic" than virtually all others because their ability to affect the changes they rage for are so limited and their mode of protest so self-destructive that it's extremely pathetic. So while for the casual foreign observer the hyprocrisy of giving "black racist" a pass is troubling, it's not really a pass it's just so incosequential that it's not worth the time it would take to deplore it. Is Dupek a racist, who knows? A provocateur, certainly. I find most of his comments slightly amusing because if he is a racist he sure is wasting a lot time on this board when he could be plotting how to eradicate the impure among us so it's kind of a relief. Grand wizard he'll never be, though most of them were idiots too. No offense intended.
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So you are agreeing that it's okay to be black and racist but not white and racist...hmmmmmm, interesting.
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Dupek, are you a fan of Prussian Blue (http://www.prussianbluestore.com/)?
The smilie t-shirts are cute! Plus the Olsen twins sandwich factor is a plus.
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
I think the distinction is that for the most part your so-called "black racist" have no power to have their hatred translate into detrimental consequences for their targets.
You are clearly a "Hot House" type of person...insulated from reality.
I regularly experience black on white racism at my job.
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I don't get it at work, but I do get it everyday going about my day.
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O'Mankie, check out this (http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=94788) 'rascist' artwork in Atlanta (video).
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Dupek, the Henry David Thoreau of our time.
Iraqi terrorists recently put two children in a car to disguise it from being a suicide bomb car and then blow it up with the kids inside.
Did you hear about that? That happened a couple weeks ago so why wasn't it front page news to propagandize the naughty war so we could get all that great oil? Isn't that how it's supposed to work in ditzy hipster land?
Unless suicide bombers show up at Indie concerts, arty hipsters will occupy themselves being arty and hip.
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
I don't get it at work, but I do get it everyday going about my day.
Maybe we're getting into semantics here, so I'll try to be clearer. Racism I suppose can be defined in various ways, from feeling your own race is superior to others (a traditional definition), to disliking another race for whatever reason (what I seem to be seeing here.) I don't really excuse any racists, but I'm far more concerned with the effects of racism, or racist activity in the "real world." Having Dupek spout his feelings about those unlike him, is not laudatory, but less concerning than the clown that doesn't say anything but refuses to hire, promote, or other activities based on race. Same with loan officers, policemen, taxi drivers, etc. Unless Dupek is an alias for say Karl Rove, he doesn't appear to have the power to take much action to forward his racist sentiments, if indeed he has any. Just because some black guy is rude to you, or any person from any race treating you like shit for any reason including you not looking like them, is not cool but real effects are what keeps generations of blacks from becoming educated, a continuous cycle of poverty, crime, etc. based on decisions made by racists 200 years ago, and some 2 weeks ago. Again I go back to the question of power, and the power to implement a racist agenda.
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It's my personal experience that many, but not all (of course there are always real people who are exceptions) black women regard all white men they meet in person as The Devil incarnate (responsible not just for all of their own personal troubles, but ALL of the world's problems, as well), and treat them as such.
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[/qb][/QUOTE]You are clearly a "Hot House" type of person...insulated from reality.
I regularly experience black on white racism at my job. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Oh so you have a job, but the black man is keeping you down? Reality is that you have the OPPORTUNITY to do just about anything you like, that's the difference. Not to lump you in this categorization but it's usually those who are kept down by the same forces that effect black america that are so visceral against them. For instance, the poor whites in the south are some of the most virulent racists and supporters of the republican party. And their ignorance is exploited for electoral gain, when they vote for politicians that inact policies that ensure their continued impoverishment and steady stream of fodder for war. They have so much more in common with the blacks they detest, but will shortsightedly continue on a road to be an occupant of a body bag coming back from Iraq. I'm veering across subjects here, but the point is your reality is pretty much in your own hands, minority, women, and few choice groups don't have that luxery so I'm sorry about the racism you are apparently experiencing but I don't think it meets the threshold to where I'll feel sorry for you.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
It's my personal experience that many, but not all (of course there are always real people who are exceptions) black women regard all white men they meet in person as The Devil incarnate (responsible not just for all of their own personal troubles, but ALL of the world's problems, as well), and treat them as such.
Just for shits and giggles, how many black women do you know? And how many have expressed this feeling? Even with your disclaimer, this is probably the silliest thing you've written whether joking or not you usually make some sense. Because to have any validity not only would you have had to witness this at least thousands of times, but would have had to follow up to witness how these women actually acted afterwards. Too much hyperbole, even for you.
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
Oh so you have a job, but the black man is keeping you down? Reality is that you have the OPPORTUNITY to do just about anything you like,
I don't know what you are smoking, but give me some.
I can do whatever I like??
Then I like having wild, coke fueled group sex with supermodels. I like residing at 5 star hotels and living off of room service. I like having a job where I don't have to deal with daily black on white racism.
How about you, Fauntleroy?
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
Just for shits and giggles, how many black women do you know? And how many have expressed this feeling? Even with your disclaimer, this is probably the silliest thing you've written whether joking or not you usually make some sense. Because to have any validity not only would you have had to witness this at least thousands of times, but would have had to follow up to witness how these women actually acted afterwards. Too much hyperbole, even for you.
Frankly, you're full of it.
I have met a lot of black women. A lot. Shit loads. I deal with some of these very same black women on a daily basis. Hell, most do not openly espouse this 'Devil Incarnate' talk to me, but one can easilly sense it lurking just under the surface by their demeanor and actions.
And yes, I have worked with one black woman WHO DID openly express such views. So there. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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If someone is in the position of implementing global racist policies, that makes them a super-villain of Lex Luther proportions.
Just because Dupek or his racist co-workers aren't in any position of power doesn't make it any more acceptable. I certainly don't agree with a lot of his posts on race, but racism from any side is still bullshit.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Originally posted by bnyced0:
Oh so you have a job, but the black man is keeping you down? Reality is that you have the OPPORTUNITY to do just about anything you like,
I don't know what you are smoking, but give me some.
I can do whatever I like??
Then I like having wild, coke fueled group sex with supermodels. I like residing at 5 star hotels and living off of room service. I like having a job where I don't have to deal with daily black on white racism.
How about you, Fauntleroy? [/b]
I'm pretty sure I said you have the OPPORTUNITY TO DO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING YOU LIKE. Meaning that if you have the aptitude, willingness, and drive you have that OPPORTUNITY, I can't account for any shortcomings but the deck isn't stacked against you unlike just about anyone that not white and male. Before I get a barrage of replies about this, I'm not picking a fight with the board at large, or whites, males, satan worshipers, or those who believe Chinese Democracy will win a grammy this year.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Then I like having wild, coke fueled group sex with supermodels. I like residing at 5 star hotels and living off of room service. I like having a job where I don't have to deal with daily black on white racism.
Sorry, that job is already filled by me!
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Originally posted by bnyced0:
Just for shits and giggles, how many black women do you know? And how many have expressed this feeling? Even with your disclaimer, this is probably the silliest thing you've written whether joking or not you usually make some sense. Because to have any validity not only would you have had to witness this at least thousands of times, but would have had to follow up to witness how these women actually acted afterwards. Too much hyperbole, even for you.
Frankly, you're full of it.
I have met a lot of black women. A lot. Shit loads. I deal with some of these very same black women on a daily basis. Hell, most do not openly espouse this 'Devil Incarnate' talk to me, but one can easilly sense it lurking just under the surface by their demeanor and actions.
And yes, I have worked with one black woman WHO DID openly express such views. So there. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. [/b]
I stand corrected. of course there's a basis for your sweeping statement about virtually all black women in the world having a certain sentiment that conspires against you. accept my apologies, I know when I can't match your wit, and reasoning so I'll bow out.
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I once witnesed first hand a black woman co-worker, who was senior to me, strike a non-verbal mentally retarded grown white male across the face.
I immediately reported it to my black woman superior. Nothing was ever done. In fact, the majority of the largely black employees at that company started to gang up on my and treat me badly after I had snitched.
I suppose that black woman who struck the tard was venting legitimate 'black rage' that she had bottled up inside her because of centuries of oppression?!?
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Originally posted by nkotb:
If someone is in the position of implementing global racist policies, that makes them a super-villain of Lex Luther proportions.
Just because Dupek or his racist co-workers aren't in any position of power doesn't make it any more acceptable. I certainly don't agree with a lot of his posts on race, but racism from any side is still bullshit.
It is still bullshit, but like you said I'm worried about Lex Luther, not Dupek. I may have stand corrected when it's discovered Dupek is behind a racist inspired murder spree, but for now people with law degrees from religious zealot universities that are shaping policies in the justice department are more troubling. Oh and there is that war that encourages a new terrorist every day into having wet dreams about blowing my ass up, that kinda concerns me. Racism...bad. Dupek...inconsequential.
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A similar incident as that described above by me has recently occured again at my new workplace.
I am at a dilemma, should I report the incident to my, once again largely black, superiors??? I kind of need to keep this job.
I have resigned myself by saying, "oh well the non-verbal tards are better off today than 40 years ago when they would have been sitting naked on a bare concrete floor in their own waste." Who am I to complain? What's a little abuse..?
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When you report these incidents, do you bring up skin color?
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
A similar incident as that described above by me has recently occured again at my new workplace.
I am at a dilemma, should I report the incident to my, once again largely black, superiors???
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
I once witnesed first hand a black woman co-worker, who was senior to me, strike a non-verbal mentally retarded grown white male across the face.
I immediately reported it to my black woman superior. Nothing was ever done. In fact, the majority of the largely black employees at that company started to gang up on my and treat me badly after I had snitched.
I suppose that black woman who struck the tard was venting legitimate 'black rage' that she had bottled up inside her because of centuries of oppression?!?
There's no excuse for her behavior or your co-workers. But your isolated experience also doesn't extrapolate into every black women has a desire to slap whitey. You seem to be in a bad situation and have had personal experiences that shape a certain worldview, unfortunate but the by product of that shouldn't be to villianize everyone else that looks like your protagonist. Again, you don't seem to saying your race is superior but rather you don't like some (most) that treat you like shit and who also happens to not look like you. This isn't some tacit acceptance of your views, which are still fundamentally flawed from my perspective, but if you have gripe with certain individuals call them out not the rest of world. Or you could move to Idaho, not too many foreigners and they have clubs where you can shoot stuff, may be good change of pace until they get fed up with the green eyed blondes, and those brown eyed brunettes start looking like trouble, could get a little scary.
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Absolutely not.
Originally posted by econo:
When you report these incidents, do you bring up skin color?
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
A similar incident as that described above by me has recently occured again at my new workplace.
I am at a dilemma, should I report the incident to my, once again largely black, superiors???
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
There's no excuse for her behavior or your co-workers. But your isolated experience
And what's isolated about it. I have had three separate jobs in this field with similar shit ocurring.
Isolated hell.
FYI: I am currently unable to move anywhere. I have to stay in Baltimore for another few years because of my son's disability.
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The black tards get better care from the black employees than the white tards do from the black workers. The black FOLK tend to favor the black tards over the white, and the quality of care received reflects this.
I give equal care to both. Racist, I am?
Note: This is largely true, but I have encountered at least one black where this wasn't the case. But as a general rule it is.
I thought that because of their prior history of victimhood, blacks were incapable(that's the perception) of discrimination??? What gives?
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whats a "tard" ?
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This is certainly not the first time I've heard of mental facilities/homes/etc. with abusive supervisors. I think the preferential treatment may be a result of inadequate training and general frustration.
Either way, it's a terrible situation from what you've been saying.
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
And what's isolated about it. I have had three separate jobs in this field with similar shit ocurring.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Originally posted by bnyced0:
There's no excuse for her behavior or your co-workers. But your isolated experience
And what's isolated about it. I have had three separate jobs in this field with similar shit ocurring.
Isolated hell.
FYI: I am currently unable to move anywhere. I have to stay in Baltimore for another few years because of my son's disability. [/b]
Again sorry about your woes, and I certainly don't want to piss on you about this. But either you are having some extremely bad luck in that everywhere you go, there are problems...Or there might be other reasons like being on message boards all day long.
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
Again I go back to the question of power, and the power to implement a racist agenda. [/b]
You mean like affirmative action?
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
I learned very quickly that in America if you think a white person is a moron then that's your opinion, but if you think a black person is a moron then you're a racist.
Mankie, our resident de Tocqueville
I learned very quickly over in the British Isles (and Europe in general) that your lack of a "minority" or "racial" history (slavery, jim crow, the civil rights movement) has left people with very different attitudes towards race ... especially when considering the influx of immigrants with dark skin into europe over the last 15 years or so
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
other reasons like being on message boards all day long.
You've got me pegged there, sport.
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Mankie, our resident de Tocqueville
Hoya, our resident know-it-all
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I think a pretty solid definition of a racist is "one who is obsessed with race." A couple of y'all spend way more time dwelling on this than anything in your life experiences would warrant.
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
I learned very quickly that in America if you think a white person is a moron then that's your opinion, but if you think a black person is a moron then you're a racist.
Mankie, our resident de Tocqueville
I learned very quickly over in the British Isles (and Europe in general) that your lack of a "minority" or "racial" history (slavery, jim crow, the civil rights movement) has left people with very different attitudes towards race ... especially when considering the influx of immigrants with dark skin into europe over the last 15 years or so [/b]
oh. that's low....that's just below the belt...comparing me to a stinking frog. Oops! was that a racist comment? ;)
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
oh. that's low....that's just below the belt...comparing me to a stinking frog. Oops! was that a racist comment? ;)
hah ... i really do find it interesting though how different european people address racial issues as compared to americans, and i really think the lack of a civil rights movement, and all the attendant history, colors (pun intended) a lot of your views
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
how different european people address racial issues as compared to americans\
are you talking about race riots, hooliganism, skinheads, and the National Front?
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
how different european people address racial issues as compared to americans\
are you talking about race riots, hooliganism, skinheads, and the National Front? [/b]
well, that's part of it, but more broadly just an inelegant approach to racial matters ... i'm obviously not saying everyone across the pond is a racist, just that they haven't been forced to confront the same internal issues about the subject that white Americans were forced to confront in the 60s
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
how different european people address racial issues as compared to americans\
are you talking about race riots, hooliganism, skinheads, and the National Front? [/b]
well, that's part of it, but more broadly just an inelegant approach to racial matters ... i'm obviously not saying everyone across the pond is a racist, just that they haven't been forced to confront the same internal issues about the subject that white Americans were forced to confront in the 60s [/b]
A not so funny personal anecdote, I'm nearly 40 years old and the only time I've ever been actually called a nigger by someone white was in Manchester over the past Xmas when I went to see Morrissey. It was just some kid in Sainsbury's who didn't know I was a Yank because I'm sure his definition of the word probably meant West Indian, or Jamaican but I actually was so taken aback that I didn't react right away because I was sure it was my over active imagination, until he said it again as he ran out of the store with a couple of other brats. I spend about as much time here as in europe every year, so being "african american" kinda just gets reduced to american, which is mixed blessing because they still hate me but for being american not necessarily for being black.
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'nigger' isn't (or should I say wasn't) nearly as offensive in England as it is here. It wasn't exactly a term of endearment so I'm not defending the kid in Manchester. Actually, as a kid I always thought nigger was someone from nigeria, just like an aussie from Australia. We use to also call black folk wogs, which use to be a term of endearment (Western Oriental Gentleman) but somehow ended up being extremely offensive.
I think with the Americanism of the UK, the 'N' word as it's known has become much more offensive thanks to Hollywood and rap music. (no, I don't blame rap for everything, just a co-incidence I mentioned it twice today) What I can't figure out is if it's such a nasty nasty word why does the black community call each other by that name all the time? You don't hear chinese people walking around yelling "Yo, my chink!" do you?
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
'nigger' isn't (or should I say wasn't) nearly as offensive in England as it is here. It wasn't exactly a term of endearment so I'm not defending the kid in Manchester. Actually, as a kid I always thought nigger was someone from nigeria, just like an aussie from Australia. We use to also call black folk wogs, which use to be a term of endearment (Western Oriental Gentleman) but somehow ended up being extremely offensive.
I think with the Americanism of the UK, the 'N' word as it's known has become much more offensive thanks to Hollywood and rap music. (no, I don't blame rap for everything, just a co-incidence I mentioned it twice today) What I can't figure out is if it's such a nasty nasty word why does the black community call each other by that name all the time? You don't hear chinese people walking around yelling "Yo, my chink!" do you?
Coincidentally, rather than tire my fingers by going on another soapbox diatribe there is a classic hip-hop song which will answer/clear up a lot of your questions concerning the usage/overusage of the "N" bomb by black folk/hip-hoppers. The name of the song is "Sucka Nigga" by the legends A Tribe Called Quest. Click below, please. I will answer any further questions you may have after you have listened to the track.
Hip-Hop Education 101 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/29z3io)
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Unfortunately we have websense at work so I can't...if I get home at a reasonable hour tonight I'll most definately listen to it then...btw, apart from the young idiot, how did you enjoy your stay in manc?
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since this thread is totally off topic anyway, I'll issue one of my periodic invites to join Doomlink. It's a BBS that's been around since 1987 -- even longer than this one -- and we talk about everything under the sun! Say you're from the 930 board when you register.
http://www.alex.to/doomlink (http://www.alex.to/doomlink)
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Originally posted by you be betty:
my mother just successfully called me downstairs to catch a story on the news about a group of girls leaving 9:30 last night on their way to the metro who were followed by another group of girls and stabbed, mugged, pepper sprayed, and harassed.
and just as i was starting to be allowed to go to shows again after the shooting...
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Originally posted by you be betty:
my mother just successfully called me downstairs to catch a story on the news about a group of girls leaving 9:30 last night on their way to the metro who were followed by another group of girls and stabbed, mugged, pepper sprayed, and harassed.
and just as i was starting to be allowed to go to shows again after the shooting...
yeah i saw an article on that in the georgetown paper. sounded more like a girl fight. the assailants were girls who were laughing the whole time.
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and we've come full circle. great work team - new thread!
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
white Americans were forced to confront in the 60s
What about now? European Americans are forced to confront the commie PC bullshit this has evolved into. I say, "Mr. Gorbachev, er Mr.Sharpton, tear down this wall!"
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
how different european people address racial issues as compared to americans\
are you talking about race riots, hooliganism, skinheads, and the National Front? [/b]
Naw. Just the physical abuse of the non-verbal mentally retarded. I think that speaks a lot about "racial memory" & "black rage".
Assaulting the retarded. Way to go!
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Originally posted by bnyced0:
I've [...] been actually called a nigger by someone white was in Manchester over the past Xmas when I went to see Morrissey.
Did you reply, "WHO'S THE BIG WHITE DICK WHO'S A SEX MACHINE WITH ALL THE FAGS?"
And did he perhaps respond, "I WAS ONLY TALKING 'BOUT MORRISSEY."
And did you then retort, "THEN I CAN DIG IT."
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I hate it when people threadjack! I thought this thread was about an incident involving 930 club patrons being attacked by youth with no respect for human life. Now, it has turned into a race war about nothing. Keep this up, and I shoud you this parting gift! (http://www.ishkur.com/posters/internet.php)!
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It still IS...relating to the racial angle of the news item.
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Naw. Just the physical abuse of the non-verbal mentally retarded. I think that speaks a lot about "racial memory" & "black rage".
Assaulting the retarded. Way to go!
because every black person wants to assault the mentally retarded, everywhere, since forever. get over your annectodes, will ya?
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
Naw. Just the physical abuse of the non-verbal mentally retarded. I think that speaks a lot about "racial memory" & "black rage".
Assaulting the retarded. Way to go!
because every black person wants to assault the mentally retarded, everywhere, since forever. get over your annectodes, will ya? [/b]
I'd say that 3 separate incidents at three separate agencies is batting a hundred.
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Dupek, you should take your views to the Prussian Blue forum... this is a music board...
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What's prussian blue??? Websense won't let me so I'm guessing it's not nice.
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It's basically a white supremacist version of the Olsen Twins... their website is both hilarious and scary...
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Aren't they musical too? So there Dr.McSmartypants!
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So I'm walking on U Street just west of the Metro stop at about 4:50 PM yesterday, and I see this group of black youths and one hispanic youth on the sidewalk, and it looks like the hispanic guy and the black guy are about to fight. So I get as far away as possible and keep walking as quickly as I can, and when I turn around to see what was happening, the hispanic guy is laying on the ground in pain, and the group of black kids (all girls except for the one boy, I think) is laughing while walking away, and one of the black girls kicks the hispanic guy in the head for good measure.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
So I'm walking on U Street just west of the Metro stop at about 4:50 PM yesterday, and I see this group of black youths and one hispanic youth on the sidewalk, and it looks like the hispanic guy and the black guy are about to fight. So I get as far away as possible and keep walking as quickly as I can, and when I turn around to see what was happening, the hispanic guy is laying on the ground in pain, and the group of black kids (all girls except for the one boy, I think) is laughing while walking away, and one of the black girls kicks the hispanic guy in the head for good measure.
Good thing you weren't in Latham, MA a la Seinfeld episode...
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
So I'm walking on U Street just west of the Metro stop at about 4:50 PM yesterday, and I see this group of black youths and one hispanic youth on the sidewalk, and it looks like the hispanic guy and the black guy are about to fight. So I get as far away as possible and keep walking as quickly as I can, and when I turn around to see what was happening, the hispanic guy is laying on the ground in pain, and the group of black kids (all girls except for the one boy, I think) is laughing while walking away, and one of the black girls kicks the hispanic guy in the head for good measure.
Somebody notify the Klan!
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U Street Music Hall
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The U Street Music Hall family is shocked and saddened that an incident of violence occurred tonight in our safe environment causing our 7 year anniversary event with Black Coffee to shut down early. We are cooperating with MPD to help them apprehend the assailant as soon as possible. We'd like to thank our staff who responded and provided assistance immediately. If you have any information pertaining to this incident please contact MPD immediately. We pride ourselves on operating a safe and welcoming environment for music lovers, run by music lovers, and are deeply saddened by this senseless occurrence. Thank you for your support. Love, U Street Music Hall
http://wjla.com/news/local/police-man-stabbed-outside-u-street-music-hall-in-dc