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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: you be betty on July 06, 2005, 11:00:00 pm
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do you want to know something, kiddies?
I JUST PAYED $45 FOR A LAWN SEAT TO COLDPLAY AND RILO KILEY.
god damnit; it's not my responsibility to pay for any more of Apple's cashmere ugg boots!
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Maybe its not, but you just did.
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i'm glad i'm not going to any of the coldplay shows.
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Just do what I did. Say "Fuck it! The show must go on without me."
There are plenty of other good shows coming up to fill up my time and take my money, many of which I feel are more deserving. (IMO)
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Originally posted by you be betty:
do you want to know something, kiddies?
I JUST PAYED $45 FOR A LAWN SEAT TO COLDPLAY AND RILO KILEY.
god damnit; it's not my responsibility to pay for any more of Apple's cashmere ugg boots!
you paid - why are you bitching?
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The reason for high prices is not only TM, but also:
(1) The band Coldplay itself, which can choose to lower its cut. Bands do this.
(2) You and the market. If Coldplay sells out its tour, which they will, it sends the message that it can easily sell lawn seats for 45 bucks. Next time around, they might try 55 bucks. Concert attendance is down this year, but until it goes WAY down, ticket prices will not go cheaper.
No offense, I've spent much more to see a show. Who hasn't been ass raped at some point?
Enjoy the band, the 7 dollar pavillion beers, and the $30 low-grade cotton souvenir t-shirt.
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oh dear, i know.
last april i payed close to $200 to see u2, and that was a cheap ticket, and i'm still broke from the occasion...
i guess what i forgot to convey in my original post was being pissed at how ticketmaster somehow took a $31 ticket up to $45. because, y'know, it's just that expensive to "handle" my ticket, and "process" my order, and all.
and :EDIT: what i have still meant to say is that...how can they get away with that? i know it's slightly hypocritical that i am still paying for it, but...ticketmaster...how??
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The processing/handling fee, whatever you want to call it, has to be a percentage of the ticket price, because it seems when ticket prices are higher, so is the add-on fee. I was trying to get a friend Stones tix when they went on sale, and the add-on from ticketbastard on the $400 tix was like another $75. Unbelievable!
I don't think the add-on would be so hard to swallow if it was just a standard fee across the board on all tix, not depending upon show and/or ticket price.
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exactly.
and something reasonable, too.
like 3 dollars maybe.
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Maybe it's just because I don't have to pay them anymore.....but I have to say I'm sick of the tired old "ticketbastard ripped me off" bitch-sessions.
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Originally posted by O'Mankie:
Maybe it's just because I don't have to pay them anymore.....but I have to say I'm sick of the tired old "ticketbastard ripped me off" bitch-sessions.
havent used them in almost 9 months :)
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Are we having this thread again? Maybe we should just sticky it at the top....you know so we can enjoy it 24-7-365.
Personally, I love ticketmaster.
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Originally posted by PigIron:
No offense, I've spent much more to see a show. Who hasn't been ass raped at some point?
When I was in Juvie I found the trick was to kick some fat kid's ass the first day and send him to the medic's; that way no one messes with you and you can avoid the whole cornhole situation.
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Never mind whats been sellin'
It's what you're buyin'
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Originally posted by PigIron:
No offense, I've spent much more to see a show. Who hasn't been ass raped at some point?
the only show i ever spent more on was a NYE show.. .and that was only one time. i don't feel like i've taken it for tickets via ticketmaster.. i'm not willing to pay lots of money for shows.. most of the bigger shows (amphitheater, etc) i went to, i went to in the 90s when tickets weren't as expensive, so i've missed out on the last few years.. i'd much rather just go to club shows these days, even if it means reeking of smoke when i go to bed afterwards.
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this past Saturday you could've bought your Coldplay lawn ticket for $18 (plus "lowered" fees) as part of the Live 8 promotion. But you would've had to be on-line first thing in the a.m. I think they sold-out the $18 tix pretty quickly as they weren't available on Sunday.
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Originally posted by chancegardener:
this past Saturday you could've bought your Coldplay lawn ticket for $18 (plus "lowered" fees) as part of the Live 8 promotion. But you would've had to be on-line first thing in the a.m. I think they sold-out the $18 tix pretty quickly as they weren't available on Sunday.
right, i tried buying those...
okay. so, to turn this around, how do some of you guys avoid using ticketmaster?
usually, when i end up waiting to buy tickets the night of at the club, they've gone sell-out on my ass.
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Where does a 15 year old get all this money?
Originally posted by you be betty:
oh dear, i know.
last april i payed close to $200 to see u2, and that was a cheap ticket, and i'm still broke from the occasion...
i guess what i forgot to convey in my original post was being pissed at how ticketmaster somehow took a $31 ticket up to $45. because, y'know, it's just that expensive to "handle" my ticket, and "process" my order, and all.
and :EDIT: what i have still meant to say is that...how can they get away with that? i know it's slightly hypocritical that i am still paying for it, but...ticketmaster...how??
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Well Nissan and Clear Channel are the reamers of the universe, so unless you go to the Nissan box office itself that's the only way you'll save a bit of $$ (I think the only fee they won't charge is shipping ... they'll still charge a Ticketmaster fee even though you're at the venue itself!). Merriweather has a new policy that there are no fees if you pay cash at their box office directly. So when it's a $25 lawn seat you pay just $25 .. amazing! Thanks IMP. And re the 930 you have to go to the box office itself to avoid excessive fees (they charge $1 extra for some reason).
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Here's a really funny and somewhat fucking aggravating thing I noticed. I think there is not that much of a difference with Ticketmaster and Tickets.Com. It's just Tickets.com retail outlets are nowhere near where I live and that is a severe pain in the ass. I have a Tower Records less than ten minutes away and I can't buy tickets there anymore in person for the 9:30 like I used to be able to when they used Ticketmaster. But the funny part is this. They have a GIANT cork board right next to the Ticketmaster desk advertising all 9:30 club shows!! How fucking wrong is that?? We'll advertise the shows right in front of you,but I'll be goddamn if you can buy the tickets HERE! You gotta run out to some friggin' location 15 miles way to buy your ticks instead.Brilliant sales strategy,indeed! I get great joy in hammering the poor,hapless clerks behind the counter when I ask why the hell I can't buy 9:30 ticks when there is a huge ad for the show right next to them as they stand beside the ticketmaster computer....and they just remark "I don't know,kinda dumb isn't it?".....just strange.....
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Where does a 15 year old get all this money?
That's not much money -- hello, a couple of shows? And she expressly noted that the $200 U2 ticket is still being felt by her pocketbook. I had a job when I was 15, and very lucky to have virtually no expenses. So, what does a 15 year old with some cash do? Buy and see music, of course (at least the cool ones do...)!
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Originally posted by you be betty:
how do some of you guys avoid using ticketmaster?
dont go to Ticketmaster shows. doesnt get any simpler than that!
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you love boycotting stuff
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yeah ;)
well, you can either boycott the stuff you think is wrong or bad, or complain about it.
most people dont like to boycott things.
i dont like to complain. (yes, except on the message board, this is my place to vent!)
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Originally posted by sonickteam4:
most people dont like to boycott things.
That's because it seems that most people are sheeple.
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[/QUOTE]That's because it seems that most people are sheeple. [/QB][/QUOTE]
In some cases, sure. But in most cases, people don't like to boycott because they actually enjoy or need the product they are being asked to boycott.
For example, I boycott lots of crap. Boycotting Nike for example, because of whatever sweatshop reason, is easy. In my opinion, Nike sucks anyway. There is hardly any sacrifice there for me. Every once in awhile I'm in a store and they only have Nike crap. Minor inconvenience. Go to another store.
Boycotting TM however is difficult. I can't think of a corporation I loathe more. But if TM is the only reasonable outlet for whatever event I want to go to (I can't mush up to Montreal and buy at the ticket window for hockey tickets, for example) I'm screwed. I can boycott TM, but I end up being pissed when the event rolls around. And in the end, I've accomplished little - TM doesn't even know who I am.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Where does a 15 year old get all this money?
Originally posted by you be betty:
oh dear, i know.
last april i payed close to $200 to see u2, and that was a cheap ticket, and i'm still broke from the occasion...
i guess what i forgot to convey in my original post was being pissed at how ticketmaster somehow took a $31 ticket up to $45. because, y'know, it's just that expensive to "handle" my ticket, and "process" my order, and all.
and :EDIT: what i have still meant to say is that...how can they get away with that? i know it's slightly hypocritical that i am still paying for it, but...ticketmaster...how??
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i actually worked, for a whole year. $15 a week. almost every cent of it went to that show.
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oops. i didn't mean to repost. i meant to add on to above, that...
i, unfortunately, am not a spoiled little rich kid. i might just be the only kid in bethesda without a cell phone and credit card. but i get $12 a week from my parents--covering everything. when i want to go to shows, i'll end up staying in the house isolated + not going out so i can pay for my ticket. but usually it is worth my while. nobody will really hire me so much since i'm under 16 so i can't do a whole lot other than tutoring, which is my $15 a week. which ended. so i am broke...yet again.
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Originally posted by you be betty:
nobody will really hire me so much since i'm under 16 so i can't do a whole lot other than tutoring, which is my $15 a week. which ended. so i am broke...yet again.
Go cut some lawns. Tax free and you'll make a lot more than $15/week. I'm sure Rhett needs his lawn cut.
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Babysit, wash you neighbor's car, pull weeds, rake leaves, mow lawns...just a few ideas. All things I used to do when I was a kid.
Babysitting is easy...we usually give $8/an hour or so.
I'm being serious when I say that if one of the neighborhood kids just knocked on my door and asked if I needed any work done I'd probably put them to work for the day. Why don't you try it?
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Good for you! Hope you enjoyed the show.
Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
Where does a 15 year old get all this money?
Originally posted by you be betty:
oh dear, i know.
last april i payed close to $200 to see u2, and that was a cheap ticket, and i'm still broke from the occasion...
i guess what i forgot to convey in my original post was being pissed at how ticketmaster somehow took a $31 ticket up to $45. because, y'know, it's just that expensive to "handle" my ticket, and "process" my order, and all.
and :EDIT: what i have still meant to say is that...how can they get away with that? i know it's slightly hypocritical that i am still paying for it, but...ticketmaster...how??
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i actually worked, for a whole year. $15 a week. almost every cent of it went to that show. [/b]
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Originally posted by PigIron:
In some cases, sure. But in most cases, people don't like to boycott because they actually enjoy or need the product they are being asked to boycott.
For example, I boycott lots of crap. Boycotting Nike for example, because of whatever sweatshop reason, is easy. In my opinion, Nike sucks anyway. There is hardly any sacrifice there for me. Every once in awhile I'm in a store and they only have Nike crap. Minor inconvenience. Go to another store.
Boycotting TM however is difficult. I can't think of a corporation I loathe more. But if TM is the only reasonable outlet for whatever event I want to go to (I can't mush up to Montreal and buy at the ticket window for hockey tickets, for example) I'm screwed. I can boycott TM, but I end up being pissed when the event rolls around. And in the end, I've accomplished little - TM doesn't even know who I am.
thats stupid. well then, I boycott Tampax. but its no biggie, cause i dont really use Tampons anyway.
if you dont "loathe" ticketmaster enough to stop using them (even if it may inconvenience you a smidge) then dont complain about them, tell people how awful they are and all that shit, what a joke...
boycotting TM is NOT difficult. they dont call me up asking me to buy tickets. i dont just walk by TM outlets and see the tickets all shiny in the window. they dont send me tickets in the mail and say "if you return these in 14 days, you will not be charged"
no. boycotting TM is hard cause you dont want to. and people would LOVE to boycott things, but, it would inconvenience them. and in the long run, they'd rather have the pants ripped off them then take a stand.
thats sheeple, people. :)
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You are wrong, complaining IS a perfectly viable solution. If you complain to the right people, ie. Congressmen, something may just be done. The reason that people still buy tickets even though they are excesively overpriced is that Ticketmaster holds a monopoly on ticketing for major concert/sporting events in this country. When the ticketing copany is owned by the same company that owns most of the venues and promoters, there is a real problem. Ticketmaster is a monopoly in the traditional sense of the world (like MLB), and if you merely boycott, but do not complain and encourage others to boycott on a mass scale, then your impact will not be felt.
As a side note, I went online to purchase DMB tickets in January and after clicking "purchase" to seal the deal for my excellent pavillion seats, it tells me I had just purchased lawn seats (some sort of glitch). I immediately purchase 2 more pavillion seats, and when I call ticketmaster to have them cancel the lawn seats, they tell me that they can't refund the "service charge." Anyhow, the day before the show when I open the tickets I see that the woman (either a complete moron or a bitch), cancelled my GOOD tickets and sent the lawns. There was notihng i could do at that point..
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Originally posted by wizman:
You are wrong, complaining IS a perfectly viable solution. If you complain to the right people, ie. Congressmen, something may just be done. The reason that people still buy tickets even though they are excesively overpriced is that Ticketmaster holds a monopoly on ticketing for major concert/sporting events in this country. When the ticketing copany is owned by the same company that owns most of the venues and promoters, there is a real problem. Ticketmaster is a monopoly in the traditional sense of the world (like MLB), and if you merely boycott, but do not complain and encourage others to boycott on a mass scale, then your impact will not be felt.
i am not wrong, actually.
there are no congressman on this board. first off. and b, you can bitch and moan at whoever you want and they may or may not listen, but stop giving someone money, and they'll notice.
and in closing, if you really wanna make a difference, fuck Ticketmaster and stay home and write a letter to your congressman, 2 birds with one stone, baby!
heres a quote: "people dont want to make a difference, people want a difference to be made"
- i dont know, but someone probably did say it.
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Originally posted by wizman:
Ticketmaster is a monopoly in the traditional sense of the world (like MLB),
MLB? Explain please?
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How do you know there are no Congressman on this board?
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Originally posted by wizman:
You are wrong, complaining IS a perfectly viable solution. If you complain to the right people, ie. Congressmen, something may just be done. The reason that people still buy tickets even though they are excesively overpriced is that Ticketmaster holds a monopoly on ticketing for major concert/sporting events in this country. When the ticketing copany is owned by the same company that owns most of the venues and promoters, there is a real problem. Ticketmaster is a monopoly in the traditional sense of the world (like MLB), and if you merely boycott, but do not complain and encourage others to boycott on a mass scale, then your impact will not be felt.
wait, lets recap.
i said: if you dont like TM , then stop using them, dont just complain about them.
you said: you are wrong, dont just boycott, complain about them too.
are you sure we are disagreeing?
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Originally posted by Fine French Chaz:
Originally posted by wizman:
Ticketmaster is a monopoly in the traditional sense of the world (like MLB),
MLB? Explain please? [/b]
MLB also maintains a unique, controlling relationship over the sport, including most aspects of minor league baseball. This is due in large part to a 1922 U.S. Supreme Court ruling which declared baseball is not considered interstate commerce (and therefore not subject to federal antitrust law), despite baseball's own references to itself as an "industry" rather than a "sport."
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Clear Channel doesn't own Ticketmaster, but Ticketmaster does have exclusive agreements to sell tickets for several venues in the US. For Clear Channel to own Ticketmaster would come under serious scrunity.
I'm suprised that MLB is going to be allowed to purchase and use Tickets.com as it's online service, talk about control...
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heres a way i like to screw over ticketmaster...
buy cheap tickets to the game/show, then make fake ones with a better seat/section. part of the way through, make your way down and VIOLA! you have great seats for a cheap price!
maybe thats not really screwing over ticketmaster...
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Originally posted by sonickteam4:
heres a way i like to screw over ticketmaster...
buy cheap tickets to the game/show, then make fake ones with a better seat/section. part of the way through, make your way down and VIOLA! you have great seats for a cheap price!
maybe thats not really screwing over ticketmaster...
Explain to me, just out of pure curiousity, how you "make" fake tickets that are halfway realistic looking.
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Those ticketFast printouts can be easily doctored.
Some dudes did that with a couple of hundred Green Day tickets and then resold them. Unfortunately for the scammers, they forgot to alter the bar code and were easily caught.
Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
Originally posted by sonickteam4:
heres a way i like to screw over ticketmaster...
buy cheap tickets to the game/show, then make fake ones with a better seat/section. part of the way through, make your way down and VIOLA! you have great seats for a cheap price!
maybe thats not really screwing over ticketmaster...
Explain to me, just out of pure curiousity, how you "make" fake tickets that are halfway realistic looking. [/b]
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has anyone had any problems with the ticketmaster print out system?
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
Originally posted by sonickteam4:
heres a way i like to screw over ticketmaster...
buy cheap tickets to the game/show, then make fake ones with a better seat/section. part of the way through, make your way down and VIOLA! you have great seats for a cheap price!
maybe thats not really screwing over ticketmaster...
Explain to me, just out of pure curiousity, how you "make" fake tickets that are halfway realistic looking. [/b]
well, i dont do it personally. a close friend of mine, who knows design software, just scans them in and changes the seat numbers etc. and using the right paper...it works. now, it only has to look, sort of real. since i am only using them on the ushers at the lower level gates. one probably couldnt actually gain admittance with these tickets but they're real enough for someone just looking for a section number....
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Those ticketFast printouts can be easily doctored.
Yeah, I forgot about them. I assumed he was talking about (edit: and apparently he was) real tickets.
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Originally posted by hostiledm:
has anyone had any problems with the ticketmaster print out system?
i've only used it for nats games, but it's worked fine for me ...