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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: on March 25, 2005, 12:24:00 pm
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man they suck...
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man they suck...
At least they will get a good draft pick. Time to change the name. Karma is a bitch.
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is anyone still using newgrounds? i didn't know that it was still active. yeah, that sounds like the right home for skins fans.
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man they suck...
At least they will get a good draft pick. Time to change the name. Karma is a bitch.
Good draft pick? They don't have a first rounder. They traded it for Bob. Our next first draft pick should be in 2016 draft, I believe...
This team is terrible. There's nothing that you can bring up in a positive light. RG3 had no offseason to progress as a passer, when thrown into the fire he has no protection to get through his progressions and when he does get time he'll hit receivers in their hands and they drop the ball. He does overthrow people and try to force in balls, but the kid is being killed behind the line of scrimmage. Outside of Pierre Garcon, who else does he have to throw to now that Jordan Reed is out?
I'm willing to see another year of Shannahan, given 1 more year with a full offseason for Bob and a full salary cap to go after free agents instead of starting a bunch of rookies who are constantly being burned. Fire the special teams coach and fire the shit out of Jim Haslett. Tape him to a rocket and launch him into the sun.
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man they suck...
At least they will get a good draft pick. Time to change the name. Karma is a bitch.
Good draft pick? They don't have a first rounder. They traded it for Bob. Our next first draft pick should be in 2016 draft, I believe...
This team is terrible. There's nothing that you can bring up in a positive light. RG3 had no offseason to progress as a passer, when thrown into the fire he has no protection to get through his progressions and when he does get time he'll hit receivers in their hands and they drop the ball. He does overthrow people and try to force in balls, but the kid is being killed behind the line of scrimmage. Outside of Pierre Garcon, who else does he have to throw to now that Jordan Reed is out?
I'm willing to see another year of Shannahan, given 1 more year with a full offseason for Bob and a full salary cap to go after free agents instead of starting a bunch of rookies who are constantly being burned. Fire the special teams coach and fire the shit out of Jim Haslett. Tape him to a rocket and launch him into the sun.
I know they don't have a first round pick. I was the one who said the trade for RGIII was terrible when it was made. You can't give that many picks away. The landover, md nfl team thinks too short-term. You are never going to do well at anything with a plan like they have.
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man they suck...
At least they will get a good draft pick. Time to change the name. Karma is a bitch.
Good draft pick? They don't have a first rounder. They traded it for Bob. Our next first draft pick should be in 2016 draft, I believe...
This team is terrible. There's nothing that you can bring up in a positive light. RG3 had no offseason to progress as a passer, when thrown into the fire he has no protection to get through his progressions and when he does get time he'll hit receivers in their hands and they drop the ball. He does overthrow people and try to force in balls, but the kid is being killed behind the line of scrimmage. Outside of Pierre Garcon, who else does he have to throw to now that Jordan Reed is out?
I'm willing to see another year of Shannahan, given 1 more year with a full offseason for Bob and a full salary cap to go after free agents instead of starting a bunch of rookies who are constantly being burned. Fire the special teams coach and fire the shit out of Jim Haslett. Tape him to a rocket and launch him into the sun.
I know they don't have a first round pick. I was the one who said the trade for RGIII was terrible when it was made. You can't give that many picks away. The landover, md nfl team thinks too short-term. You are never going to do well at anything with a plan like they have.
so what you meant to say was "at least st. louis will get a good draft pick"
i must say, this disaster is really fun to watch play out as a non-washington football team fan.
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I wasn't really expecting them to win the division again coming off of the MCL/LCL surgery, but his mobility last year masked the problems they had on the offensive line. Now that they don't want him to move around as much, he's just taking a beating. If Shannahan does survive the offseason, I sincerely hope he stacks that offensive line and brings in some people who can catch the fucking ball, get open, and get some god damn yards after the catch.
How have about 4 coaches come through in the past 8 years and EVERYONE seems to just think our passing game is screens? Jesus Christ.
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is it correct that they will be able to spend way more money next year?
the first thing in deciding whether to fire him is can you replace him with anyone better...
I like Pete Carroll's assistants/coordinators.. they pretty much run the Seahawks is the impression I get..
I think changes in the way the game is played mean that guys like Cowher are pretty much relics...
I'd be tempted to give Cousins the rest of the season and see what he does...why risk RGIII in what is a hopeless cause with little upside?
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They were hit with an 18 million dollar cap penalty in 2013 and 2012, so 18 million will definietly go a long way when it comes to free agency. There are also a lot of contracts expiring this year that will probably not be renewed.
I wouldn't fire Shannahan, I'd fire Jim Haslett and whoever runs the special teams. Their work has been completely unacceptable this year and every year since Jim Haslett has taken over the defense.
I like Kyle, he does what he can with the offense. When RG3 is 100%, that offense runs like an unstoppable machine and Kyles play calling had a nice amount to do with that.
RG3 needs to work on his progressions in real time. Benching him does him no good. They need to work on moving the pocket and protection schemes for him though, if not you ARE risking his health the rest of the year. I don't think you can bench him though.
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Fire them all. Shannehan made the decision to go to a 3-4 scheme when he had 4-3 personnel. The fucked up d is on him. The d was pretty good before he got here.
I honestly don't see this franchise ever turning it around. I care very little at this point.
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Fire them all. Shannehan made the decision to go to a 3-4 scheme when he had 4-3 personnel. The fucked up d is on him. The d was pretty good before he got here.
I honestly don't see this franchise ever turning it around. I care very little at this point.
when the Redskins are so bad it rather embitters the town....
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Fire them all. Shannehan made the decision to go to a 3-4 scheme when he had 4-3 personnel. The fucked up d is on him. The d was pretty good before he got here.
I honestly don't see this franchise ever turning it around. I care very little at this point.
Yeah, it blows my mind how they were a top 5-10 defense for a few years leading into Shannahan and he decided to flip the scheme without bringing in much different personnel to actually run that scheme. Any fucking defense can be turned around within 4 years. Insane.
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Fire them all. Shannehan made the decision to go to a 3-4 scheme when he had 4-3 personnel. The fucked up d is on him. The d was pretty good before he got here.
I honestly don't see this franchise ever turning it around. I care very little at this point.
when the Redskins are so bad it rather embitters the town....
this is the problem with the washington sports fans. they are so damn apathetic. take a lesson from boston, run some players out of town, create media shitstorms, boo your teams for underachieving. don't simply "stop caring" when they start sucking. care more, and call out who deserves to be called out. the likes of dc sports bog and adam kilgore might be respectable sports journalists, but you need that asshole like TJ Simers or Dan Shaughnessy to show that your fanbase gives a shit. until then, washington will always be a second-tier sports town.
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Fire them all. Shannehan made the decision to go to a 3-4 scheme when he had 4-3 personnel. The fucked up d is on him. The d was pretty good before he got here.
I honestly don't see this franchise ever turning it around. I care very little at this point.
when the Redskins are so bad it rather embitters the town....
this is the problem with the washington sports fans. they are so damn apathetic. take a lesson from boston, run some players out of town, create media shitstorms, boo your teams for underachieving. don't simply "stop caring" when they start sucking. care more, and call out who deserves to be called out. the likes of dc sports bog and adam kilgore might be respectable sports journalists, but you need that asshole like TJ Simers or Dan Shaughnessy to show that your fanbase gives a shit. until then, washington will always be a second-tier sports town.
Some of this may be true, but I've been a marginal nfl fan at best for at least a decade.
I don't think any media hero could save this team. I mean, Snyder owns their radio affiliate. I think the fanbase gives a shit to a fault.
I don't think my apathy towards the team is emblematic of the average football fan in this town. Then again, I don't really hang out with a lot of crazy skins fans so I could be totally wrong.
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Fire them all. Shannehan made the decision to go to a 3-4 scheme when he had 4-3 personnel. The fucked up d is on him. The d was pretty good before he got here.
I honestly don't see this franchise ever turning it around. I care very little at this point.
when the Redskins are so bad it rather embitters the town....
this is the problem with the washington sports fans. they are so damn apathetic. take a lesson from boston, run some players out of town, create media shitstorms, boo your teams for underachieving. don't simply "stop caring" when they start sucking. care more, and call out who deserves to be called out. the likes of dc sports bog and adam kilgore might be respectable sports journalists, but you need that asshole like TJ Simers or Dan Shaughnessy to show that your fanbase gives a shit. until then, washington will always be a second-tier sports town.
They were definitely getting booed on Monday Night Football against the 9ers.... Not only that, but the fans left, and the 9ers fans raised all kinds of noise and started VERY clear "Lets go 9ers" chants. Now, if I was there, I would have booed the shit out of those 9ers fans. But, Snyder sees an empty stadium with just opposing team fans remaining. He knows. He saw the way the stadium was during the playoff game last year and during that 7 game win streak. He's not an idiot.
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shouldnt you guys stop watching football . . . and start worrying about the safety of the pope. whats he going to do next, suggest that the vatican give up all its secret gold?
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team has quit..
shanahan could be fired tomorrow... they're down 31-0 against the chiefs with 7 minutes left in first half!
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team has quit..
shanahan could be fired tomorrow... they're down 31-0 against the chiefs with 7 minutes left in first half!
So how would that work? Like the monarchy in England? Kyle just steps right in? Serves the Washington team right for having such a clueless, fuck-knuckle Napoleon as an owner.
Brian
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team has quit..
shanahan could be fired tomorrow... they're down 31-0 against the chiefs with 7 minutes left in first half!
So how would that work? Like the monarchy in England? Kyle just steps right in? Serves the Washington team right for having such a clueless, fuck-knuckle Napoleon as an owner.
Brian
That is a good point...who would replace him?
anyways game has tightened significantly...38-10 at half time
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So this Griffin fellow doesn't seem that great. (?)
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Skins making a run..getting tight...
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wasn't enough in the end...fell just a bit short but I think this is a game we can build on...I'm taking away a lot of positives...
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the strong support by the fans continues to be a source of comfort and pride
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/chiefs-blowing-redskins-washington-stadium-empties-second-half-200516474--nfl.html
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the strong support by the fans continues to be a source of comfort and pride
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/chiefs-blowing-redskins-washington-stadium-empties-second-half-200516474--nfl.html
Talk about fair-weathered fans. Anyways, the Ravens game was crazy but at least they came through in the end.
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Shanahan MAY be fired tomorrow.... You don't leak a story like this:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10101919/mike-shanahan-was-ready-quit-washington-redskins-2012-season (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10101919/mike-shanahan-was-ready-quit-washington-redskins-2012-season)
...unless you have one foot out the door.
Thoroughly entertaning early slate of games. If the Brown had made that field goal (CUNDIFF!) and/or the Steelers had made that return without stepping out of bounds (IRONY!), maybe one of the best ever.
Brian
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html)
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html)
Seems the headline of the article is a lie. When all fans leave at half time they do deserve Snyder and Shanahan.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html)
Seems the headline of the article is a lie. When all fans leave at half time they do deserve Snyder and Shanahan.
This is what Dan Snyder deserves. Not the team, not at all, but Daniel Snyder and Mike Shannahan and his arrogance. Seriously? Allowing 300+ yards on special teams and the FUCKING SPECIAL TEAMS COACH REMAINS ON THE TEAM. ARE YOU KIDDING ME. He's a Shannahan guy, so he'll stay. Same with Jim Haslett. That cunt hasn't produced a top 10 defense in ALL of his years as a coordinator OR a head coach. What does Dan Snyder hate? Not making money. How doesn't he make money? Whent the stadium fucking clears. Fuck him and fuck the whole organization. They've treated the fans like whores for years and this is what they get. I feel bad for the team, but even they have quit. I've always considered myself a die hard Skins fan, but this is just insanity. The coach doesn't care, the players don't seem to care, what more can we put up with?
People were GIVING away their tickets on my social media feeds. Last week they were going for a whopping $7 on StubHub. Screw them all. It isn't fair weather, when the team loses 5 in a row, it's snowing and raining, you're down by 4 fucking touchdowns at the half, I'd be the first one out the door. Dan Snyder needs to see what he has done. Shannahan and his whole coaching staff SHOULD be booed out of the stadium. Worthless garbage.
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I know this is football and your posting on this thread automatically makes you a blockhead, but can you please refrain from using the "c" word?
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I know this is football and your posting on this thread automatically makes you a blockhead, but can you please refrain from using the "c" word?
Stop let your wife control you actions in the world. You are a man damnit act like it.
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oh thats a good one, james. go have another beer you cunt.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html)
Seems the headline of the article is a lie. When all fans leave at half time they do deserve Snyder and Shanahan.
This is what Dan Snyder deserves. Not the team, not at all, but Daniel Snyder and Mike Shannahan and his arrogance. Seriously?
People were GIVING away their tickets on my social media feeds. Last week they were going for a whopping $7 on StubHub. Screw them all. It isn't fair weather, when the team loses 5 in a row, it's snowing and raining, you're down by 4 fucking touchdowns at the half, I'd be the first one out the door. Dan Snyder needs to see what he has done. Shannahan and his whole coaching staff SHOULD be booed out of the stadium. Worthless garbage.
It is fair weather fans when it is snowing and your whole stadium is empty. There are only 8 games a year. Is it too much to go to all of them when you have season tickets. Especially when you pay that much money for them.
I do think you get overworked up about sports. I saw you get like this on the Capitals thread. It doesn't really matter if your team wins or loses it is just entertainment. I mean it was great that the Ravens won last year but two weeks later it didn't make a difference to me and it certainly means nothing to me now. I mean even if you are on the team it really shouldn't matter because the team would have no problem you cutting you right after you helped them win the Championship.
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What does Dan Snyder hate? Not making money. How doesn't he make money? Whent the stadium fucking clears. Fuck him and fuck the whole organization. They've treated the fans like whores for years and this is what they get. I feel bad for the team, but even they have quit. I've always considered myself a die hard Skins fan, but this is just insanity. The coach doesn't care, the players don't seem to care, what more can we put up with?
People were GIVING away their tickets on my social media feeds. Last week they were going for a whopping $7 on StubHub. Screw them all. It isn't fair weather, when the team loses 5 in a row, it's snowing and raining, you're down by 4 fucking touchdowns at the half, I'd be the first one out the door. Dan Snyder needs to see what he has done. Shannahan and his whole coaching staff SHOULD be booed out of the stadium. Worthless garbage.
Is it your contention the Washington NFL team is not making money? The value of the organization has skyrocketed since he took over. They'll make hundreds of millions this year despite secondary market prices for tickets and lost potential concession sales in the second-half of homes games.
Daniel Snyder knows very little about running a successful team in the realm of football but he's absolutely made cash hand over fist despite his questionable football moves and continues to do so.
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I know this is football and your posting on this thread automatically makes you a blockhead, but can you please refrain from using the "c" word?
Stop let your wife control you actions in the world. You are a man damnit act like it.
YEAH! stop acting like such a pussy, james ford.
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Ticket sales don't matter because they've "already been sold" so he already has the money. When you have an 80,000+ person stadium and about 53,000 show up, it's less money. Dan Snyder has made a boat load of cash off the team, but that doesn't mean he doesn't want more.
I really can't anything more. This team has been pathetic for the better part of 2 decades and any momentary glimpse of hope almost always seems to go up in flames. That 4 game winning streak, by this point last year, feels like it was a decade ago. RG3 feels like a guy on the way out instead of a shining savior.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html)
Seems the headline of the article is a lie. When all fans leave at half time they do deserve Snyder and Shanahan.
agree.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html)
This is a really stupid article. I mean, he's lecturing Shanahan for not treating Albert Haynesworth with respect? Haynesworth took a huge shit on the Redskins and basically stole their money. And Shanahan is unhappy that one of his players has a hush-hush back-channel relationship with the owner? He should be, especially when it's an owner like Snyder who has a long stupid history of meddling and interfering despite lacking any football intelligence or savvy.
I am not fan of Shanahan and think he needs to go, but anyone looking to this article for wisdom will find none. Boswell should stick to baseball.
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Pretty harsh!
"Who deserves more blame, Mike Shanahan, the weasel of a coach who defames his enemies, deflects blame and now may duck out of town if he gets the firing he craves? "
I was surprised Shanahan said after the game that he didn't have the team ready to play yesterday! Seems like a crazy thing to admit to!
This seems a reach.. would Houston even be interested in Mike Shanahan?? with his record in DC?
"Out-of-work Kremlinologists who now study Ashburn, Va., will someday determine whether Shanahan really wants to be fired so he can get the first shot at the open Houston coaching job and take his son, Kyle, a successful offensive coordinator there in ?09-10, with him to a safe harbor and, perhaps, a No. 1 overall draft pick. After all, the Texans are the only team in the NFL with a worse record than Washington. Or maybe ?fired? ensures him more of the $7 million for ?14 that he?s owed, whereas ?I quit? squanders it. "
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do you put this much effort into your job, as you do football? if so, you must be the ceo, by now.
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do you put this much effort into your job, as you do football? if so, you must be the ceo, by now.
get back on the meds cranko!
;D
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good one! ;D
that made me laugh out loud. no, it made me roll on the floor laughing. that is what the kids are saying nowadays, isnt it? :D
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Don't the fans deserve some of the blame in a backhanded way? I know alot of Washington fans and no matter what idiotic contract it was -- Deion, Haynesworth, etc -- they were always heralded at the time as brilliant moves. The RG3 pick is the same thing. Didn't the Washington NFL team give up an insane 4 #1 picks for RG3 in the era where there are more NFL-ready Day 1 QBs available than ever before? And yet, every Washington fan I know acted like they were getting Jesus Incarnate and it was totally reasonable to dump 4 first-rounders to move up a few spots in the draft.
And the Washington NFL team is poised to give the #2 pick overall back to St Louis this season. Effectively, they traded #2 overall picks and for the pleasure of getting that pick 2 years early, they're paying 3 first-rounders in "interest." This is the football equivalent of paying your car payment with a payday loan and then paying off the payday loan with a second payday loan and paying that payday loan off with a third payday loan. It was patently stupid at the time but you simply could not convince a Washington fan that there was any downside to this.
I'm not a Washington fan or hater, but I've never seen a fanbase who complains more about their owner's decisions after the fact while CONSISTENTLY hyping every decision he makes in the moment despite all logic to the contrary. Perhaps if Washington fans didn't act like they've won the Super Bowl every off-season (and spend 8 trillion dollars on RG3/Washed-Up Has-Been jerseys every year), Dan Snyder miggggght get the picture. (Probably not, but its worth a shot.)
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^ all true....but in part , and let me add I despise American "Foot"ball although this year I been watching more, and feeling bad about it... (what can I say: the game has changed a lot..that is one great thing about American "Foot"ball...very dynamic game..)... but I digress, here is the point:
part of the issue is the press always hypes the moves and then the fans go along with it
before Shanahan was brought in I thought the Skins should get a proven coach..somebody who had won a super bowl.... i thought Cowher would have been better... but I can' criticize them for getting Shanahan as his name did come up.... I'm talking about a conversation I had a year or two before he was brought in...... I wonder if the problem with the salary cap hindered the team so much that nobody could have done a better job... I don't understand the ins and outs of that situation..I do think SHanahan really fucked up big time last year putting RGIII in after he was clearly too hurt to play.... the whole Haynesworth thing.. I mean Shanahan just seems like a real bitch..I did not know that he was such a petty vindictive guy.
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The p word is so much nicer than the c word.
And I guess atomic hasn't met my wife. I'm always the one begging her to clean up her language.
I know this is football and your posting on this thread automatically makes you a blockhead, but can you please refrain from using the "c" word?
Stop let your wife control you actions in the world. You are a man damnit act like it.
YEAH! stop acting like such a pussy, james ford.
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Didn't the Washington NFL team give up an insane 4 #1 picks for RG3 in the era where there are more NFL-ready Day 1 QBs available than ever before?
someone please correct me on this, but they did try going with 'day 1 ready" QBs and they all failed miserably. anyone remember McNabb?
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The p word is so much nicer than the c word.
And I guess atomic hasn't met my wife. I'm always the one begging her to clean up her language.
I know this is football and your posting on this thread automatically makes you a blockhead, but can you please refrain from using the "c" word?
Stop let your wife control you actions in the world. You are a man damnit act like it.
YEAH! stop acting like such a pussy, james ford.
Grow a pair. Nicer word? "C' word?
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Didn't the Washington NFL team give up an insane 4 #1 picks for RG3 in the era where there are more NFL-ready Day 1 QBs available than ever before?
someone please correct me on this, but they did try going with 'day 1 ready" QBs and they all failed miserably. anyone remember McNabb?
the issue is that apparently Shanahan was against getting RGIII..as he's the GM and Coach I think its crazy that Snyder overruled him if that is indeed what happened...
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Didn't the Washington NFL team give up an insane 4 #1 picks for RG3 in the era where there are more NFL-ready Day 1 QBs available than ever before?
someone please correct me on this, but they did try going with 'day 1 ready" QBs and they all failed miserably. anyone remember McNabb?
No, I mean coming out of college. I posit that NCAA offenses have gotten so advanced that there are more rookie QBs ready to take over as NFL starters "day one" than at any other time in NFL history. Had Washington not drafted RG3 they could have gotten Tannenhill, Wilson, Foles, or even Cousins (who they eventually got anyway, and definitely is not a starter IMO). We are no longer in the era where 4 teams have Super Bowl caliber QBs and everyone else is the have-nots.
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Didn't the Washington NFL team give up an insane 4 #1 picks for RG3 in the era where there are more NFL-ready Day 1 QBs available than ever before?
someone please correct me on this, but they did try going with 'day 1 ready" QBs and they all failed miserably. anyone remember McNabb?
No, I mean coming out of college. I posit that NCAA offenses have gotten so advanced that there are more rookie QBs ready to take over as NFL starters "day one" than at any other time in NFL history. Had Washington not drafted RG3 they could have gotten Tannenhill, Wilson, Foles, or even Cousins (who they eventually got anyway, and definitely is not a starter IMO). We are no longer in the era where 4 teams have Super Bowl caliber QBs and everyone else is the have-nots.
This is the way I see it too... there are so many good young quaterbacks now...it was never that way before... before a 40 something Kosar or Testaverde could still play in the NFL over an up and comer !
the game has really changed...
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html)
This is a really stupid article. I mean, he's lecturing Shanahan for not treating Albert Haynesworth with respect? Haynesworth took a huge shit on the Redskins and basically stole their money. And Shanahan is unhappy that one of his players has a hush-hush back-channel relationship with the owner? He should be, especially when it's an owner like Snyder who has a long stupid history of meddling and interfering despite lacking any football intelligence or savvy.
I am not fan of Shanahan and think he needs to go, but anyone looking to this article for wisdom will find none. Boswell should stick to baseball.
i see what you're saying, but this is the kind of outrage article you need. it's not wisdom, what the hell would dan snyder do with articulated thoughts? this fan base needs to adopt anarchy as it's mode of forcing change.
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Didn't the Washington NFL team give up an insane 4 #1 picks for RG3 in the era where there are more NFL-ready Day 1 QBs available than ever before?
someone please correct me on this, but they did try going with 'day 1 ready" QBs and they all failed miserably. anyone remember McNabb?
relevant (http://deadspin.com/thanks-for-the-take-donovan-1479142174)
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Is it ok if I start tossing around "nigger" and "faggot" in regular conversation on this board?
Or should I be afraid that it might offend your boyfriend?
The p word is so much nicer than the c word.
And I guess atomic hasn't met my wife. I'm always the one begging her to clean up her language.
I know this is football and your posting on this thread automatically makes you a blockhead, but can you please refrain from using the "c" word?
Stop let your wife control you actions in the world. You are a man damnit act like it.
YEAH! stop acting like such a pussy, james ford.
Grow a pair. Nicer word? "C' word?
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Didn't the Washington NFL team give up an insane 4 #1 picks for RG3 in the era where there are more NFL-ready Day 1 QBs available than ever before?
someone please correct me on this, but they did try going with 'day 1 ready" QBs and they all failed miserably. anyone remember McNabb?
the issue is that apparently Shanahan was against getting RGIII..as he's the GM and Coach I think its crazy that Snyder overruled him if that is indeed what happened...
Is Shannahan so arrogant that he would draft Kirk Cousins as well, and throw RG3 to the wolves to TRY and get him injured so he could actually start the QB he wanted and could mold easier than Robert Griffin? I believe this is called the "Klanahan Theory". If Shannahan did his job, he wouldn't have to worry about if Dan Snyder sends more security for the face of his franchise. No organization chooses a coach over a quarterback.
Sports press in DC ruins everything. All they want is Redskins. Good or bad. I sincerely wish they would ship all the writers and radio stations off to other countries. They really, REALLY make things worse. Ugh.
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Didn't the Washington NFL team give up an insane 4 #1 picks for RG3 in the era where there are more NFL-ready Day 1 QBs available than ever before?
someone please correct me on this, but they did try going with 'day 1 ready" QBs and they all failed miserably. anyone remember McNabb?
the issue is that apparently Shanahan was against getting RGIII..as he's the GM and Coach I think its crazy that Snyder overruled him if that is indeed what happened...
Is Shannahan so arrogant that he would draft Kirk Cousins as well, and throw RG3 to the wolves to TRY and get him injured so he could actually start the QB he wanted and could mold easier than Robert Griffin? I believe this is called the "Klanahan Theory". If Shannahan did his job, he wouldn't have to worry about if Dan Snyder sends more security for the face of his franchise. No organization chooses a coach over a quarterback.
Sports press in DC ruins everything. All they want is Redskins. Good or bad. I sincerely wish they would ship all the writers and radio stations off to other countries. They really, REALLY make things worse. Ugh.
the owner should never make that decision over the GM..... if he doesn't trust the GM to make that decision then he should not have a GM!
I do agree that Shanahan has not been any good and that the press is terrible..
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No, I mean coming out of college. I posit that NCAA offenses have gotten so advanced that there are more rookie QBs ready to take over as NFL starters "day one" than at any other time in NFL history. Had Washington not drafted RG3 they could have gotten Tannenhill, Wilson, Foles, or even Cousins (who they eventually got anyway, and definitely is not a starter IMO).
ok, now i'm confused. you say there are a ton of fresh-outta-college QBs that can start right away, like Cousins... then say that Cousins isn't starter caliber.
we should get nate silver on this, but i'm pretty sure there are more first-rounders who have become franchise QBs, than late rounders (Brady is the obvious exception, but for every low-round star you point out i'll name you 3 first rounders). hence the desire to go all out for a first-round QB. now whether RG3 was worth the price of admission is another matter.
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No, I mean coming out of college. I posit that NCAA offenses have gotten so advanced that there are more rookie QBs ready to take over as NFL starters "day one" than at any other time in NFL history. Had Washington not drafted RG3 they could have gotten Tannenhill, Wilson, Foles, or even Cousins (who they eventually got anyway, and definitely is not a starter IMO).
ok, now i'm confused. you say there are a ton of fresh-outta-college QBs that can start right away, like Cousins... then say that Cousins isn't starter caliber.
we should get nate silver on this, but i'm pretty sure there are more first-rounders who have become franchise QBs, than late rounders (Brady is the obvious exception, but for every low-round star you point out i'll name you 3 first rounders). hence the desire to go all out for a first-round QB. now whether RG3 was worth the price of admission is another matter.
Really what quarterback not named Manning has been drafted in the top 10 picks and has made it even to the super bowl recently
Ones that are not top 10 picks.
Rodgers
Flacco
Rothernsburger
Brees
Brady
Kaepernick
Warner
Grossman
Hassleback
Brad Johnson
Actually the last time a top 10 pick who wasn't a manning won a super bowl was Trent Dilfer. I think the reason you see this is bad teams don't know who to select with their draft choices and that is why so many bad quarterbacks are taken early. And it seems that even when teams go to the Super Bowl with top 10 quarterbacks they get there despite their Quarterback (McNabb, Dilfer) not because of the QB performance.
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Didn't the Washington NFL team give up an insane 4 #1 picks for RG3 in the era where there are more NFL-ready Day 1 QBs available than ever before?
someone please correct me on this, but they did try going with 'day 1 ready" QBs and they all failed miserably. anyone remember McNabb?
the issue is that apparently Shanahan was against getting RGIII..as he's the GM and Coach I think its crazy that Snyder overruled him if that is indeed what happened...
Is Shannahan so arrogant that he would draft Kirk Cousins as well, and throw RG3 to the wolves to TRY and get him injured so he could actually start the QB he wanted and could mold easier than Robert Griffin? I believe this is called the "Klanahan Theory". If Shannahan did his job, he wouldn't have to worry about if Dan Snyder sends more security for the face of his franchise. No organization chooses a coach over a quarterback.
Sports press in DC ruins everything. All they want is Redskins. Good or bad. I sincerely wish they would ship all the writers and radio stations off to other countries. They really, REALLY make things worse. Ugh.
the owner should never make that decision over the GM..... if he doesn't trust the GM to make that decision then he should not have a GM!
I do agree that Shanahan has not been any good and that the press is terrible..
This is where the disconnect comes in, everyone THOUGHT Shanny picked RG3, now there are "reports" that it wasn't his initial choice. Either way, something is happening. At this point I wonder if it's really a detriment to the product on the field. The team has about 4 talented players.
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I find it funny that James Ford is all upset about a word being used in a thread whose very title is more offensive and he hasn't complained about that yet. Come on the NFL Landover team is super offensive. Lets change that first and maybe the bad karma will go away.
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While I would think at least 50% of the population (plus, additionally only me, apparently), would find use of the word cun* offensive, I'm betting most of them wouldn't find use of the word "darned" offensive. But I've been wrong on numerous occasions in my life.
Or, if you're referring to the word "redskins", I think you have to think about context. A guy insulting a guy by referring to him as a female body part is more derogatory than referring to a team as "redskins", imo.
I find it funny that James Ford is all upset about a word being used in a thread whose very title is more offensive and he hasn't complained about that yet. Come on the NFL Landover team is super offensive. Lets change that first and maybe the bad karma will go away.
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While I would think at least 50% of the population (plus, additionally only me, apparently), would find use of the word cun* offensive, I'm betting most of them wouldn't find use of the word "darned" offensive. But I've been wrong on numerous occasions in my life.
Or, if you're referring to the word "redskins", I think you have to think about context. A guy insulting a guy by referring to him as a female body part is more derogatory than referring to a team as "redskins", imo.
I find it funny that James Ford is all upset about a word being used in a thread whose very title is more offensive and he hasn't complained about that yet. Come on the NFL Landover team is super offensive. Lets change that first and maybe the bad karma will go away.
You think that more people being offended by the one you are offended by is that there are a ton of women in the country and we have done a good job of removing native Americans from anywhere around us? I would state that probably around 50 percent of VA, MD and DC is made up of woman. How many Native Americans are left in this area?
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jesus christ . . . james ford, really is, a cunt.
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but i'm pretty sure there are more first-rounders who have become franchise QBs, than late rounders (Brady is the obvious exception, but for every low-round star you point out i'll name you 3 first rounders).
Really what quarterback not named Manning has been drafted in the top 10 picks and has made it even to the super bowl recently
Ones that are not top 10 picks.
In typical fashion, you altered the argument to suit your needs. Sweetcell said first round, you then narrowed it down top 10, and then listed Super Bowl QB's and not "franchise" QBs.
Making a Super Bowl does not make you a franchise QB.
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Making a Super Bowl does not make you a franchise QB.
...but it does get you paid. On man, do you get PAID.
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Brian
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Who asked you, faggot? :P
jesus christ . . . james ford, really is, a cunt.
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Who asked you, faggot? :P
jesus christ . . . james ford, really is, a cunt.
Smiley face isults still hurt feelings.
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Evil Santa must be on vacation or something....
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stop calling me a bundle of sticks.
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gotta love that moment on this forum where the conversation gets lost by pages of james ford and atomic battling about who is the bigger doodoohead.
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but i'm pretty sure there are more first-rounders who have become franchise QBs, than late rounders (Brady is the obvious exception, but for every low-round star you point out i'll name you 3 first rounders).
Really what quarterback not named Manning has been drafted in the top 10 picks and has made it even to the super bowl recently
Ones that are not top 10 picks.
In typical fashion, you altered the argument to suit your needs. Sweetcell said first round, you then narrowed it down top 10, and then listed Super Bowl QB's and not "franchise" QBs.
Making a Super Bowl does not make you a franchise QB.
How else can you logically state the Quaterback is worth taking? WTF does "Franchise Quarterback mean"? The best quarterbacks get you to the super bowl during their career. Any other method of measure is bullshit because getting to the super bowl is the goal. I don't think it is any teams plans to disappoint the fans year after year with their QB pick..
I was using the top 10 as the landover Nfl team already had a top 10 pick and they didn't need to trade up. I said it was a terrible move at the time to trade up. If you have 3 top 10 picks odds are you going to get at least 2 all pro type players. Well at least that is how it has been for the Ravens.
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no evil santa doesn't usually read sports threads and he and I both agree the C word is on the to be avoid list...
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wow I hadn't thought of this angle..."firing with cause"
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/redskins-contemplating-firing-mike-shanahan-203700134--nfl.html
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gotta love that moment on this forum where the conversation gets lost by pages of james ford and atomic battling about who is the bigger doodoohead.
Actually once again you are clueless. James Ford is not arguing about me at all. I haven't used any offensive words. Not the Landover football team name, not the "N" word, not the "C" word..... The shitty Vermont beer you have been drinking has destroy your brain cells evidently.
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im a little upset . . . that i was not referred to as a, doodoohead.
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im a little upset . . . that i was not referred to as a, doodoohead.
James Ford and WalkOnBy were the doodooheads.
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gotta love that moment on this forum where the conversation gets lost by pages of james ford and atomic battling about who is the bigger doodoohead.
Actually once again you are clueless. James Ford is not arguing about me at all. I haven't used any offensive words. Not the Landover football team name, not the "N" word, not the "C" word..... The shitty Vermont beer you have been drinking has destroy your brain cells evidently.
OK.
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wow I hadn't thought of this angle..."firing with cause"
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/redskins-contemplating-firing-mike-shanahan-203700134--nfl.html
Mike Shannahan deserves to be fired. But first he's going to make a spectacle of this and make himself look like a victim. This guy is a cerifiable turd.
And now he's benched RG3 because he's worried he'll get injured. This guy is maddening.
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wow I hadn't thought of this angle..."firing with cause"
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/redskins-contemplating-firing-mike-shanahan-203700134--nfl.html
Mike Shannahan deserves to be fired. But first he's going to make a spectacle of this and make himself look like a victim. This guy is a cerifiable turd.
And now he's benched RG3 because he's worried he'll get injured. This guy is maddening.
He wants to get fired. It is in his contract that he can make all decisions about who plays. So if the owner gets pissed off and fires him he gets 7 million to sit home and relax. Sounds like a good plan.
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hmm.....can't recall ever hearing this type of stuff
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/10/snyder-shanahan-playing-high-stakes-game-of-chicken/?ocid=Yahoo
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I'm shocked no one has speculated on who the next coach is going to be.
IF they still had one or two of those picks they gave to St. Louis to get RG III, I'd think Jimmy Johnson is a possibility. Just so he can screw Jerry Jones. If Al Davis were still alive, he'd trade a fortune to get RG III to Oakland.
Brian
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well I speculated on who the next coach should be....I'd make a play for one of the Seattle coordinators.... Pete Carroll is managing but the coordinators are the ones drawing up the plays and they really seem to know what they're doing
the game is evolving so quickly i no longer believe there is value in going out and paying a ton of money for say a Cowher or a Gruden (although anything that would get Gruden off of MNF would be worth it... he annoys the fuck out of me) because they've been passed by...
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i no longer believe there is value in going out and paying a ton of money for say a Cowher or a Gruden (although anything that would get Gruden off of MNF would be worth it... he annoys the fuck out of me)
SERIOUSLY. his color commentary is useless. brady makes a good pass: "that's tom brady being tom brady - you can't give him opportunities like that because he'll burn ya every time. a living legend". tom brady throws an INT on the next play, and it's all "that's the problem with brady, making mistakes and giving the game away." everything is fucking superlative and without any actual analysis. he points out what just happened (that's the play-by-play guy's job, you idiot) and they tells us how it's the best or the worse thing ever. i've gotten pretty good at muting him between plays.
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more of the same:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1884793-rg3-benching-may-be-nothing-more-than-shanahans-parting-shot-in-failed-season
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maybe most articles mention it but i think for shanahan this is a great move because RGIII's not getting pulled last year will always be a knock against him..by doing this he's in effect trying to show how much he cares about RGIII
all the while ticking off SNyder and RGIII and maybe leaving a quaterback controversy, if Cousins does real well, as a parting gift..
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maybe most articles mention it but i think for shanahan this is a great move because RGIII's not getting pulled last year will always be a knock against him..by doing this he's in effect trying to show how much he cares about RGIII
all the while ticking off SNyder and RGIII and maybe leaving a quaterback controversy, if Cousins does real well, as a parting gift..
Maybe Cousins is the better quarterback and the Landover NFL team will start winning games now. I mean they can't do much worse than they did with RGIII. Time to give someone else a chance.
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Perhaps its my Michigan vs. Michigan State bias but there's this huge subsection of Washington fans who think Cousins is a legit starter and I look and if you extrapolate his numbers to the median starter's attempts of 550/season, he'd be on pace to throw 44 INTs in a year, yes? Say what you want about RG3, but he doesn't turn it over nearly the pace Cousins has. (Yes, small sample size, yada yada yada.)
EDIT: My mistake, just looked at the numbers again: he'd average 38 INTs is a 550 attempts season.
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the funny thing is I think Shanahan is a dufus but I agree with this move... what is the point of playing RGIII at this point? with such a terrible offensive line? give him a bit longer off an offseason and lets see next year...
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RG3 is mobile, Kirk is not, there is NO offensive line. Kirk will be thrashed and have zero time. I like Kirk, he's a nice guy, he did good last year against decent defenses, but it was just 1 game and a handful of drives at the end of a game and a disaster in the playoffs. I only want Kirk to fail so that it blows up in Shannahans face.
How is it possible that this man has had 3 losing seasons [in 4] and is STILL trying to make himself look good? Why can't he accept that the game has left him behind. He had full control of this operation and fucking failed. He can't fail. He's Mike Shannahan. The man ran out of Denver. John Elway. Ugh. I'm so fucking sick of this cocksuckers arrogance. Drag an entire organization so his repuation [who he staked on Rex Grossman and John Beck] will stay intact. Fuck this guy forever.
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RG3 is mobile, Kirk is not, there is NO offensive line. Kirk will be thrashed and have zero time. I like Kirk, he's a nice guy, he did good last year against decent defenses, but it was just 1 game and a handful of drives at the end of a game and a disaster in the playoffs. I only want Kirk to fail so that it blows up in Shannahans face.
How is it possible that this man has had 3 losing seasons [in 4] and is STILL trying to make himself look good? Why can't he accept that the game has left him behind. He had full control of this operation and fucking failed. He can't fail. He's Mike Shannahan. The man ran out of Denver. John Elway. Ugh. I'm so fucking sick of this cocksuckers arrogance. Drag an entire organization so his repuation [who he staked on Rex Grossman and John Beck] will stay intact. Fuck this guy forever.
I bet you were happy when he was hired.
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I didn't think it was a good hire. No previous Super Bowl winning coach has ever won another Super Bowl. This formula has been used over and over again. It's a moot point. He's out in a few weeks and we're coachless and lost yet again.
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I didn't think it was a good hire. No previous Super Bowl winning coach has ever won another Super Bowl. This formula has been used over and over again. It's a moot point. He's out in a few weeks and we're coachless and lost yet again.
Your theory doesn't really make sense. Bill Parcells went back to the Super Bowl after winning it twice with another team and also made it to a AFC Championship with a third team.
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I assume he means with a different team. Parcells won his with the Giants.
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I assume he means with a different team. Parcells won his with the Giants.
Yeah, sorry, forgot that little bit.
Getting back to the Super Bowl, great, winning a Super Bowl is a whole different story. If getting TO conference championships and Super Bowls was fine, Andy Reid would still be in Philadelphia.
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I assume he means with a different team. Parcells won his with the Giants.
Yeah, sorry, forgot that little bit.
Getting back to the Super Bowl, great, winning a Super Bowl is a whole different story. If getting TO conference championships and Super Bowls was fine, Andy Reid would still be in Philadelphia.
Getting to the Super Bowl is the goal. That way you are in the last game of the season. It probably is hard to win with two different teams because most great coaches are switching teams all the time and personel plays a big part in winning and there is luck. I think you woud be happy with a Super Bowl appearance. If the Ravens make the Super Bowl this year I will be overjoyed no matter what the outcome.
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I assume he means with a different team. Parcells won his with the Giants.
I realize that but he won 2 with the giants and then got back to the Super Bowl with someone else.
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This team will never be a winner with the current owner. I've been saying that for years. I believe it now more than ever.
Hubris, bad karma, you name it. Danny will never be a winner. NEVER EVER.
And he will never sell the team. How old is he? 45 or 50? Barring the unforeseen that's another 30 years at least til he croaks.
Then maybe this team will have a chance. But not before.
This guy and this team somehow always finds a way to outdo itself. Remember his first year? Deion Sanders... Bruce Smith...Mark Carrier.
Adam Archuleta. Good god.
Everyone thought the team had hit absolute rock bottom with the Albert Haynesworth debacle. Not even close.
Donovan McNabb
Steve Spurrier
Jim Fucking Zorn?
This list of stunning embarrassments just goes on and on and on.
Which all brings us to today.
The trade with the Rams for RG3 was born of such complete and utter desperation. The only thing Danny knows how to do is go bigger. It didn't work before? Well this time let's go EVEN BIGGER.
Spoiled, impatient, petulant children sometimes get just what they deserve. This is one of those times.
I'm sorry skins fans. This will get better no time soon. Not as long as Dan Snyder owns this team. Dan Snyder will forever come up with new and different ways to embarrass this once proud team. He will somehow invent new and different ways to fail miserably.
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I felt the same way about Angelos but they have won the last 2 seasons.
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I assume he means with a different team. Parcells won his with the Giants.
Yeah, sorry, forgot that little bit.
Getting back to the Super Bowl, great, winning a Super Bowl is a whole different story. If getting TO conference championships and Super Bowls was fine, Andy Reid would still be in Philadelphia.
Getting to the Super Bowl is the goal. That way you are in the last game of the season. It probably is hard to win with two different teams because most great coaches are switching teams all the time and personel plays a big part in winning and there is luck. I think you woud be happy with a Super Bowl appearance. If the Ravens make the Super Bowl this year I will be overjoyed no matter what the outcome.
If the goal was to get TO the Super Bowl, no one would care about WINNING the Super Bowl. You're stupid. Winning the Super Bowl is everything.
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I felt the same way about Angelos but they have won the last 2 seasons.
Angelos is detestable to say the least. In the pantheon of horrible owners he is up there, but not nearly in the stratosphere of Snyder. His karmic debt is considerable for sure, but has not reached the insurmountable platitudes that Snyder's has.
And for starters, he's got a real GM.
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I felt the same way about Angelos but they have won the last 2 seasons.
Angelos is detestable to say the least. In the pantheon of horrible owners he is up there, but not nearly in the stratosphere of Snyder. His karmic debt is considerable for sure, but has not reached the insurmountable platitudes that Snyder's has.
And for starters, he's got a real GM.
And Angelos's team doesn't have a racist name.
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I felt the same way about Angelos but they have won the last 2 seasons.
Angelos is detestable to say the least. In the pantheon of horrible owners he is up there, but not nearly in the stratosphere of Snyder. His karmic debt is considerable for sure, but has not reached the insurmountable platitudes that Snyder's has.
And for starters, he's got a real GM.
And Angelos's team doesn't have a racist name.
Yup. There's that too.
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I assume he means with a different team. Parcells won his with the Giants.
Yeah, sorry, forgot that little bit.
Getting back to the Super Bowl, great, winning a Super Bowl is a whole different story. If getting TO conference championships and Super Bowls was fine, Andy Reid would still be in Philadelphia.
Getting to the Super Bowl is the goal. That way you are in the last game of the season. It probably is hard to win with two different teams because most great coaches are switching teams all the time and personel plays a big part in winning and there is luck. I think you woud be happy with a Super Bowl appearance. If the Ravens make the Super Bowl this year I will be overjoyed no matter what the outcome.
If the goal was to get TO the Super Bowl, no one would care about WINNING the Super Bowl. You're stupid. Winning the Super Bowl is everything.
Your team has 3 meaningless games left. I am sure you would be much happier if your team was going to the super bowl. I think I got into you with this stupid argument before. Your an idiot when it comes to sports. And you get mad about them. If sports make you mad than you should stop paying attention to them.
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I felt the same way about Angelos but they have won the last 2 seasons.
Won what? More games than they lost? Is that the goal?
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dear lord . . . there is a blank space where the name should be on the main screen next to who started this thread. it is a sign. a big black space. the next coach will be black.
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''What I'm trying to do is be as honest as I can. And I don't normally do that.''
Mike Shanahan
December 12, 2013
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I felt the same way about Angelos but they have won the last 2 seasons.
Won what? More games than they lost? Is that the goal?
It sure beats 14 straight losing seasons and it sure beats being out of the playoff race by the all-star break. Look at you Landover NFL team fans. 3 games to go and all you have left to do is argue over who is more at fault the GM or the Coach. The Ravens have been in the playoffs 5 straight years and have won a game each year in the playoffs and are still in the hunt this year.
If all that will make you happy is winning the super bowl than you are going to be a very unhappy person. Is this how you run your personal life? " If I am not the president of the US I am loser?". It is the journey not the destinaton. As we will all end up dead in the end.
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I assume he means with a different team. Parcells won his with the Giants.
Yeah, sorry, forgot that little bit.
Getting back to the Super Bowl, great, winning a Super Bowl is a whole different story. If getting TO conference championships and Super Bowls was fine, Andy Reid would still be in Philadelphia.
Getting to the Super Bowl is the goal. That way you are in the last game of the season. It probably is hard to win with two different teams because most great coaches are switching teams all the time and personel plays a big part in winning and there is luck. I think you woud be happy with a Super Bowl appearance. If the Ravens make the Super Bowl this year I will be overjoyed no matter what the outcome.
If the goal was to get TO the Super Bowl, no one would care about WINNING the Super Bowl. You're stupid. Winning the Super Bowl is everything.
Your team has 3 meaningless games left. I am sure you would be much happier if your team was going to the super bowl. I think I got into you with this stupid argument before. Your an idiot when it comes to sports. And you get mad about them. If sports make you mad than you should stop paying attention to them.
You're* an idiot.
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I assume he means with a different team. Parcells won his with the Giants.
Yeah, sorry, forgot that little bit.
Getting back to the Super Bowl, great, winning a Super Bowl is a whole different story. If getting TO conference championships and Super Bowls was fine, Andy Reid would still be in Philadelphia.
Getting to the Super Bowl is the goal. That way you are in the last game of the season. It probably is hard to win with two different teams because most great coaches are switching teams all the time and personel plays a big part in winning and there is luck. I think you woud be happy with a Super Bowl appearance. If the Ravens make the Super Bowl this year I will be overjoyed no matter what the outcome.
If the goal was to get TO the Super Bowl, no one would care about WINNING the Super Bowl. You're stupid. Winning the Super Bowl is everything.
Your team has 3 meaningless games left. I am sure you would be much happier if your team was going to the super bowl. I think I got into you with this stupid argument before. Your an idiot when it comes to sports. And you get mad about them. If sports make you mad than you should stop paying attention to them.
You're* an idiot.
Says the person who gets themselves all upset over some stupid sports team that they aren't even on. You are upset over the Capitals, upset over the Landover NFL team. YOu are probably upset over the wizards and nationals as well. Get a life.
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Maybe the Landover team should trade RG3 for draft picks. They might be able to get a first rounder for him. That way you can have Cousins as your QB and use the pick to fill one of the numerous holes in your team. I guess it admits failure of some kind if you pay 3 first rounders to get him and only get one when you trade him but sometimes you have to cut your losses.
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I'm shocked no one has speculated on who the next coach is going to be.
Rex Ryan (http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/rex-ryan-may-be-done-ny-he-fit-redskins)
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I'm shocked no one has speculated on who the next coach is going to be.
Rex Ryan (http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/rex-ryan-may-be-done-ny-he-fit-redskins)
I'm not even sure why I'm posting in this thread, but why replace a loser with a bigger loser?
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I'm shocked no one has speculated on who the next coach is going to be.
Rex Ryan (http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/rex-ryan-may-be-done-ny-he-fit-redskins)
Have got to be fucking kidding me.
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I bet Shanahan is still coaching the team next year. You have all that money tied up with him and the coaches. It is not like you will sell more tickets or have more TV money by firing the coach. Plus the teams top pick is gone. They will be awful next season no matter who the coach is.
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Shanahan doesn't want to be around for that, but he still holds the power. He'll strike an agreement with Snyder in the offseason to walk with a few mil but not the full amount owed.
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i don't know, atomic has a point. the landover coaching job is a nightmare for the next year or two, who in their right mind would take that job? it almost seems like snyder holds the power since shanahan really doesn't want to coach, and snyder has a terrible void to fill.
that said, i do feel like greg schiano and dan snyder are a match made in heaven.
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who in their right mind would take that job?
Exactly. All money being equal - which job do you take: this one or the University of Texas job?
Easy pick.
They will be awful next season no matter who the coach is.
Yep.
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I felt the same way about Angelos but they have won the last 2 seasons.
Won what? More games than they lost? Is that the goal?
It sure beats 14 straight losing seasons and it sure beats being out of the playoff race by the all-star break. Look at you Landover NFL team fans. 3 games to go and all you have left to do is argue over who is more at fault the GM or the Coach. The Ravens have been in the playoffs 5 straight years and have won a game each year in the playoffs and are still in the hunt this year.
If all that will make you happy is winning the super bowl than you are going to be a very unhappy person. Is this how you run your personal life? " If I am not the president of the US I am loser?". It is the journey not the destinaton. As we will all end up dead in the end.
Not sure who 'you' is but I've been a Ravens fan since before Day 1.
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Not sure who 'you' is but I've been a Ravens fan since before Day 1.
Out of curiosity, and boy did you pick the right team (imagine the different experiences of a Redskins and Ravens fan since the Browns moved to Baltimore!), what does this mean?
Dd you root for the Cleveland Browns? or were you a Baltimore Colts fan? Or did you root for Baltimore to get a new team?
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Grew up a Baltimore Colts fan. What I said probably made no sense, but I was just trying to say I was a Baltimore fan before a-tom was even born.
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Grew up a Baltimore Colts fan. What I said probably made no sense, but I was just trying to say I was a Baltimore fan before a-tom was even born.
no, that makes perfect sense to me.....
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kinda funny on the nfl announcers
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/66008790/
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Art Briles' name floated as new coach for team for landover
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-robert-griffin-iii-father-urging-washington-redskins-173522311--nfl.html
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Art Briles' name floated as new coach for team for landover
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-robert-griffin-iii-father-urging-washington-redskins-173522311--nfl.html
Any names floated as new owner? Until then....
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Art Briles is not coming to DC.
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Art Briles is not walking thru that door.
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I have met Art Briles and you, sir, are no Art Briles.
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We're thru the looking glass here, people!
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all landover coaching staff fired
what a horrible year...if you'd asked people before the preseason what their record would be i wonder how many people would have said 3-13?
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quarterback turns out to be a joke . . . fire all the coaches. why do folks support a company like the nfl that makes billions and pays no taxes, anyway?
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why do folks support a company like the nfl that makes billions and pays no taxes, anyway?
This is an idiotic argument people make every so often. Because the NFL is a business league and its profits are passed on to member teams which are, themselves, taxed. There's some minor tax sheltering going on with dues payed to the NFL being tax-deductable and those dues being used for, ostensibly, for-profit purposes, but on the hierarchy of corporate tax wonkery, this isn't in the top 1000.
I mean, next thing you know, people are going to want to tax the money I pay for regatta sponsorships.
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http://deadspin.com/the-skins-turned-mike-shanahans-presser-into-a-hostage-1491615415
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all landover coaching staff fired
what a horrible year...if you'd asked people before the preseason what their record would be i wonder how many people would have said 3-13?
No one.
Good riddance. They've already interviewed a few folks for the job. Hopefully they jump on a good candidate in the early going or else we'll end up in another Jim Zorn situation. *shudder*
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all landover coaching staff fired
what a horrible year...if you'd asked people before the preseason what their record would be i wonder how many people would have said 3-13?
No one.
Good riddance. They've already interviewed a few folks for the job. Hopefully they jump on a good candidate in the early going or else we'll end up in another Jim Zorn situation. *shudder*
your gonna get art briles so have fun with that.
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why do folks support a company like the nfl that makes billions and pays no taxes, anyway?
This is an idiotic argument people make every so often. Because the NFL is a business league and its profits are passed on to member teams which are, themselves, taxed. There's some minor tax sheltering going on with dues payed to the NFL being tax-deductable and those dues being used for, ostensibly, for-profit purposes, but on the hierarchy of corporate tax wonkery, this isn't in the top 1000.
I mean, next thing you know, people are going to want to tax the money I pay for regatta sponsorships.
oh . . . thank you for that schooling. sometimes i jump to all kinds of conclusions.
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all landover coaching staff fired
what a horrible year...if you'd asked people before the preseason what their record would be i wonder how many people would have said 3-13?
I would have said 2-14. But in the NFL one team has to lose and one team has to win. So in order to have winning teams you have to have your losers as well. No big deal.
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I think the Landover NFL team should change their name to the Washington Generals.
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maybe the name itself, is a curse . . . and all the people have been right all these years to change it. they sure do suck for bizarro world reasons ever since i have been alive, except for that one superbowl.
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8 head coaches in 15 years under Danny Boy - not exactly the recipe for success
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8 head coaches in 15 years under Danny Boy - not exactly the recipe for success
this is a stupid statistic shemp and you know it!
the reason they've had so many coaches is cause they've been losing.. i mean the browns have had a ton of coaches too.. when you suck you make changes... you don't just keep sucking... if you suck for two years under coach a you try somebody new...thats just the way the business is.. you don't say "hey we really have sucked the past 10 years under this guy but lets keep going with him cause that's a recipe for success!"
if they'd been winning they'd have far fewer coaches
in other words, its not the number of coaches being high having caused losing but rather losing having caused the number of coaches to be high
or does anybody think they should have kept shanahan? and I have to say Snyder's problem hasn't been not sticking with coaches... Gibbs basically quit on him....Zorn just kind of sucked and had to go....
the only two coaches that arguably should have been kept longer, in the Snyder era, are Norv Turner (who at the time when he was let go seemed to kind of suck.. I think people forget...he made some serious mistakes.. I think he got better later) and Shottenheimer
its really hard to say what the problem is..its just a clusterfuck of issues...coachingwise he's tried just about everything....he should have made that defensive guy gregg williams head coach (yeah the bounty guy)..but other than that?
i guess the mistake with the salary cap was a big whooper... i still don't quite get what they did that was wrong
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Perhaps the talent evaluator needs to be someone other than the owner. When's the last time this team had a legitimate GM?
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the team it is crazy to say may really be cursed.... what were the two best players they got the past 10 years or so?
sean taylor
RGIII
the first , rip, was killed...the second was put in/left in when he should not have by shanahan and may now be damaged goods...maybe playing the style he was he would have been injured regardless...but the fact remains that the two best players the franchise has had the past decade...
i do think shanahan was a little b i t c h more intent on making his points and winning the arguments and making himself lookk good and proving he had the biggest dick THAN in ensuring success.. the whole Haynesworth thing was completely bungled... I mean you can tell me that they didn't like him, that he showed up overweight and all this.. but how did embarassing him in public like they did help the team? it completely depreciated the player to the point he was worthless... and i think if you come in and you have a guy with such a big contract with some proven success playing in that other system you should have not been so quick to say you have no interest in that system.. i'm no fan of haynesworth but when they signed him and brought him in the idea was for him to keep playing like with his former team.... embarassing him in public that to me seemed like junior varsity stuff... why? to prove a point?
the whole mcnabb thing was also just another controversy that was unecessary.... i mean i dont' know that donovan is a great guy but by all accounts a fairly professional QB.. it seemed at the end they were trying to embarass him in public... Shanahan just seemed more bent on proving himself right than anything else..
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Please tell me hutch did not justify decisions by the landover team by saying the Browns did a similar thing. Holy shit. Perhaps you can find done (my beloved) Lions-esque parallels to further prove the rightness of Snyders course of actions. Holy shit.
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Please tell me hutch did not justify decisions by the landover team by saying the Browns did a similar thing. Holy shit. Perhaps you can find done (my beloved) Lions-esque parallels to further prove the rightness of Snyders course of actions. Holy shit.
the point is that when you're a losing team you go through coaches cause you're losing
"prove the rightness"?
Julian, I always thought you could write.. .is your kid hijacking your account?
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So what makes the Patriots the Patriots? Or the Ravens? Why have they had success while Washington has not? Or Cleveland? Or Detroit?
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So what makes the Patriots the Patriots? Or the Ravens? Why have they had success while Washington has not? Or Cleveland? Or Detroit?
I think Snyder is a bad owner.. I'm not arguing that contrary to what Julian's five year old kid is posting..... just pointing out that firing failing coaches is not the reason..
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8 head coaches in 15 years under Danny Boy - not exactly the recipe for success
this is a stupid statistic shemp and you know it!
the reason they've had so many coaches is cause they've been losing.. i mean the browns have had a ton of coaches too.. when you suck you make changes... you don't just keep sucking... if you suck for two years under coach a you try somebody new...thats just the way the business is.. you don't say "hey we really have sucked the past 10 years under this guy but lets keep going with him cause that's a recipe for success!"
if they'd been winning they'd have far fewer coaches
in other words, its not the number of coaches being high having caused losing but rather losing having caused the number of coaches to be high
or does anybody think they should have kept shanahan? and I have to say Snyder's problem hasn't been not sticking with coaches... Gibbs basically quit on him....Zorn just kind of sucked and had to go....
the only two coaches that arguably should have been kept longer, in the Snyder era, are Norv Turner (who at the time when he was let go seemed to kind of suck.. I think people forget...he made some serious mistakes.. I think he got better later) and Shottenheimer
its really hard to say what the problem is..its just a clusterfuck of issues...coachingwise he's tried just about everything....he should have made that defensive guy gregg williams head coach (yeah the bounty guy)..but other than that?
i guess the mistake with the salary cap was a big whooper... i still don't quite get what they did that was wrong
You don't get what they did with the salary cap that was wrong? They tried to release a player with a huge contract in the year without the cap. You know trying to get rid of your mistake when the league specifically told them not to and warned them of the consequences.
As for firing coaches all the time. Who is picking all these coaches? They have had success other places yet not here. Maybe it isn't the coaches who are the problem. Just firing them leads to lame ducks coaches over and over. The Bengals stuck with their coach through losing seasons. Now they are making the playoffs in back to back seasons.
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The name MUST be a curse when they've won 3 Super Bowls and 2 World Championships under the name. Yes, the last was over 2 decades ago, but they have been named the same thing for the better part of a century.
At this point I don't give 2 squirts of piss WHAT the hell they do. Win another Super Bowl. Rename them the Washington Dudeguys and if they win a Super Bowl it'll all be fine with me.
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Really - who would want to work for Dan Snyder at this point.
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Really - who would want to work for Dan Snyder at this point.
I don't like Dan Snyder at all but I'm pretty sure Shanahan has $28 million reasons why someone might want to work for Snyder...including as I understand it $7 million for sitting out next year... not only that he got his own son Kyle hired by Snyder (I'm sure also not cheap) and by all accounts got Snyder to do pretty much much whatever he wanted (building more and newer team facilities, holding camp wherever he wanted, etc.)..
I just don't recall all these horrible things Snyder did to Shanahan...I think he was very handsoffish...I don't think i've heard a peep from Snyder all year except for his statement released yesterday about fans deserving better..
I don't know that its proven that Snyder overruled Shanahan on drafting RGIII and trading all those picks for him...there's a lot of "leaks" put out there by Shanahan that have been confusing the issues...at least thats the way I see it..
Having said that I also dont think there are a lot of people lining up for the job... but when I really think about it I'm not sure its because of Snyder... partly its that but its more than that.. the stench of failure...the feeling that its just a loser team... the lack of desire to get involved in a shitshow....
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The name MUST be a curse when they've won 3 Super Bowls and 2 World Championships under the name. Yes, the last was over 2 decades ago, but they have been named the same thing for the better part of a century.
At this point I don't give 2 squirts of piss WHAT the hell they do. Win another Super Bowl. Rename them the Washington Dudeguys and if they win a Super Bowl it'll all be fine with me.
nobody cared what they were named until more recently... you could make the argument the curse was activated when Cooke died...
personally I think the team needs a fresh start... changing the name would be a beginning....the clamor for them to change the name will get louder.. given the team's racist history I think they should have been out in front on the name issue...
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jesus . . . if only people had this much passion about poverty, homelessness, the government working, jobs, the deficit, racism, etc. if only.
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jesus . . . if only people had this much passion about poverty, homelessness, the government working, jobs, the deficit, racism, etc. if only.
How do you infer I don't have even more passion about those issues?
Obviously posting about anything related to politics on this board is a recipe for disaster... moreover, when you get a bit older you realize most people have their own opinions and are pretty much only interested in that which confirms them...
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jesus . . . if only people had this much passion about poverty, homelessness, the government working, jobs, the deficit, racism, etc. if only.
How do you infer I don't have even more passion about those issues?
Obviously posting about anything related to politics on this board is a recipe for disaster... moreover, when you get a bit older you realize most people have their own opinions and are pretty much only interested in that which confirms them...
Actually everyone has their own opinions about sports too.
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jesus . . . if only people had this much passion about poverty, homelessness, the government working, jobs, the deficit, racism, etc. if only.
How do you infer I don't have even more passion about those issues?
Obviously posting about anything related to politics on this board is a recipe for disaster... moreover, when you get a bit older you realize most people have their own opinions and are pretty much only interested in that which confirms them...
Actually everyone has their own opinions about sports too.
you can talk about why the redskins suck and nobody much cares what you think... talk about why president obama sucks (if that is what you think) and you're on an entirely different plane..to start with 50% of people , more like 75% on this boad who bother to post, will yell "WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE SUCKS??"
one will be, by a certain age, very invested in their politics...their politics will often be a part of how they see themselves, who they are, what they stand on, what they believe in.... the minutae of the Redskins? once you agree you're all fans you can argue about anything and not worry about it..its just not that personal...
of course your mileage may vary
at least that is the way i see it..
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jesus . . . if only people had this much passion about poverty, homelessness, the government working, jobs, the deficit, racism, etc. if only.
How do you infer I don't have even more passion about those issues?
Obviously posting about anything related to politics on this board is a recipe for disaster... moreover, when you get a bit older you realize most people have their own opinions and are pretty much only interested in that which confirms them...
Actually everyone has their own opinions about sports too.
you can talk about why the redskins suck and nobody much cares what you think... talk about why president obama sucks (if that is what you think) and you're on an entirely different plane..to start with 50% of people , more like 75% on this boad who bother to post, will yell "WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE SUCKS??"
one will be, by a certain age, very invested in their politics...their politics will often be a part of how they see themselves, who they are, what they stand on, what they believe in.... the minutae of the Redskins? once you agree you're all fans you can argue about anything and not worry about it..its just not that personal...
of course your mileage may vary
at least that is the way i see it..
American Politicians are so similar I don't see why people get in this Republican / Democrat thing. People think of politics very similar to football. They want to have their side win. THey don't care what is best for the country. In football only one side can win. I guess in election only one side can win as we have winner take all here and we only have two parties. But all the incumbents could win. And if they do what is best for the country we could all win.
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The name MUST be a curse when they've won 3 Super Bowls and 2 World Championships under the name. Yes, the last was over 2 decades ago, but they have been named the same thing for the better part of a century.
At this point I don't give 2 squirts of piss WHAT the hell they do. Win another Super Bowl. Rename them the Washington Dudeguys and if they win a Super Bowl it'll all be fine with me.
nobody cared what they were named until more recently... you could make the argument the curse was activated when Cooke died...
personally I think the team needs a fresh start... changing the name would be a beginning....the clamor for them to change the name will get louder.. given the team's racist history I think they should have been out in front on the name issue...
How racist? Like, having the only black Super Bowl winning quarterback in NFL history? Pretty racist.
Honestly, I don't give a shit at this point. They can do whatever they want. If they bring me a Super Bowl, I don't care what they're named or who owns the team.
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The name MUST be a curse when they've won 3 Super Bowls and 2 World Championships under the name. Yes, the last was over 2 decades ago, but they have been named the same thing for the better part of a century.
At this point I don't give 2 squirts of piss WHAT the hell they do. Win another Super Bowl. Rename them the Washington Dudeguys and if they win a Super Bowl it'll all be fine with me.
nobody cared what they were named until more recently... you could make the argument the curse was activated when Cooke died...
personally I think the team needs a fresh start... changing the name would be a beginning....the clamor for them to change the name will get louder.. given the team's racist history I think they should have been out in front on the name issue...
How racist? Like, having the only black Super Bowl winning quarterback in NFL history? Pretty racist.
Honestly, I don't give a shit at this point. They can do whatever they want. If they bring me a Super Bowl, I don't care what they're named or who owns the team.
You have a weird way of thinking. If you aren't racist to black people you aren't racist? WTF?
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He said the team has a history of racism, I was just wondering what the history was, outside of the name. I didn't know the organization and team had a history of racism.
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If BIll Cowher coaches this team I truly have zero expectations for them. I would be so upset if he takes over. The man has been out of coaching for 7 frickin years. Ugh.
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The name MUST be a curse when they've won 3 Super Bowls and 2 World Championships under the name. Yes, the last was over 2 decades ago, but they have been named the same thing for the better part of a century.
At this point I don't give 2 squirts of piss WHAT the hell they do. Win another Super Bowl. Rename them the Washington Dudeguys and if they win a Super Bowl it'll all be fine with me.
nobody cared what they were named until more recently... you could make the argument the curse was activated when Cooke died...
personally I think the team needs a fresh start... changing the name would be a beginning....the clamor for them to change the name will get louder.. given the team's racist history I think they should have been out in front on the name issue...
How racist? Like, having the only black Super Bowl winning quarterback in NFL history? Pretty racist.
Honestly, I don't give a shit at this point. They can do whatever they want. If they bring me a Super Bowl, I don't care what they're named or who owns the team.
You are pathetic if you don't know the history of the Washington Redskins... educate yourself.. here is a snippet that can begin your education:
Most Americans, and most Redskins fans, agree with him (Hutch note ie Snyder and resdksins name). But all that shows is that those Americans and fans don?t know the history. Snyder, presumably, does. He should be ashamed.
Marshall had made a fortune in the commercial laundry business when he purchased the Boston Braves football team in 1932. His second coach was a man whose mother was thought to be part Sioux. Not known to be?thought to be. And on that flimsy basis, Marshall changed the name, in this coach?s ?honor? (even though Marshall fired him after two seasons), from Braves to Redskins. It seems telling that ?Braves? was somehow not authentic enough for Marshall.
?Redskins? lasts only because white people don?t know it?s offensive and don?t particularly care to stop and think about how and why it might be.
Telling, but not surprising. This is a man who proposed to his wife against the backdrop of a group of black performers he?d hired to croon ?Carry Me Back to Ol? Virginny? as he popped the question (?Massa and Missus have long since gone before me / Soon we will meet on that bright and golden shore?). Who ordered the Redskins marching band to play ?Dixie? right before ?The Star-Spangled Banner? prior to every game?up into the 1960s. And who probably instigated the banning of black athletes from the NFL from 1933 until 1946.
I say ?probably? because the league?s owners at the time always kept it a deep secret, but Thomas G. Smith, who wrote a 2011 book about all this, got as close as a person could get to putting Marshall at the center of the ban. The league had blacks before 1933 only because people didn?t care much about pro football then, not nearly as much as they did about baseball. But in 1933, at someone?s instigation, the owners got together and agreed on the ban. Certainly, Marshall was the biggest racist of the bunch. (I reviewed the book here, for The New York Review of Books.)
Most famously of all, Marshall was the last owner to accept a black player?fully 15 years after the ban was lifted. And his team drafted an African-American then (in 1961) only because it was forced to by the government?the then-new stadium that we call RFK Stadium today was built on Department of Interior land, which permitted the Kennedy administration to order the lessee (the team) to adhere to federal nondiscrimination policies. In other words, Marshall wasn?t merely a standard-issue racist of the time, like H.L. Mencken or countless others. He was diseased. He seethed with hatred of nonwhite people. And ?Redskins? is his handiwork. Because ?Braves? wasn?t quite descriptive enough.
from: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/01/the-racist-redskins.html
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I dig it.
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He said the team has a history of racism, I was just wondering what the history was, outside of the name. I didn't know the organization and team had a history of racism.
You apparently don't know too much about the history of this team then. This team was the last team in the NFL to integrate in 1962. Nearly 15 years after most NFL teams had integrated. They refused to have black players on their roster until they were forced to - RFK, then the Attorney General, forced the teams hand by threatening to revoke their lease on D.C. Stadium. It went on to be named RFK Stadium, of course.
George Marshall, the first and longest tenured owner of the team specifically stipulated in his will that none of the money was to be used in efforts related to integration. This guy was an avowed racist. It's no big secret. "When George Preston Marshall died in 1969, he left some money to his children but directed that the bulk of his estate be used to set up a foundation in his name. He attached, however, one firm condition: that the foundation, operating out of Washington, D.C., should not direct a single dollar toward ?any purpose which supports or employs the principle of racial integration in any form.?
Ever wonder why there are so many African American Cowboys fans in the DC area? It's because the guy who owned the team up until 1969 hated black people and everyone knew it.
Edit - Hutch's response appeared as well by the time if posted this. I agree...DFA how the fuck could you not know any of this stuff?
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You are pathetic if you don't know the history of the Washington Redskins... educate yourself.. here is a snippet that can begin your education:
the hutch hammer!
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A diehard Washington NFL team fan legitimately asking for proof of the franchise's racist history is one of the funniest things I've ever seen on here. We are one step away from someone asking for proof of Kentucky Basketball or Alabama or Mississippi Football having a racist history. We are through the looking glass here, people!
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If BIll Cowher coaches this team I truly have zero expectations for them. I would be so upset if he takes over. The man has been out of coaching for 7 frickin years. Ugh.
No chance the skins get Bill Cowher. Every year, Cowher and John Gruden's names get floated around as possible head coach candidates and it's not gonna happen unless it is the absolute perfect situation. Also, they get paid millions right now to work one day a week.
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If BIll Cowher coaches this team I truly have zero expectations for them. I would be so upset if he takes over. The man has been out of coaching for 7 frickin years. Ugh.
No chance the skins get Bill Cowher. Every year, Cowher and John Gruden's names get floated around as possible head coach candidates and it's not gonna happen unless it is the absolute perfect situation. Also, they get paid millions right now to work one day a week.
the very idea of bill cowher coming out of "retirement" to work for snyder is laughable.
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He said the team has a history of racism, I was just wondering what the history was, outside of the name. I didn't know the organization and team had a history of racism.
You apparently don't know too much about the history of this team then. This team was the last team in the NFL to integrate in 1962. Nearly 15 years after most NFL teams had integrated. They refused to have black players on their roster until they were forced to - RFK, then the Attorney General, forced the teams hand by threatening to revoke their lease on D.C. Stadium. It went on to be named RFK Stadium, of course.
George Marshall, the first and longest tenured owner of the team specifically stipulated in his will that none of the money was to be used in efforts related to integration. This guy was an avowed racist. It's no big secret. "When George Preston Marshall died in 1969, he left some money to his children but directed that the bulk of his estate be used to set up a foundation in his name. He attached, however, one firm condition: that the foundation, operating out of Washington, D.C., should not direct a single dollar toward ?any purpose which supports or employs the principle of racial integration in any form.?
Ever wonder why there are so many African American Cowboys fans in the DC area? It's because the guy who owned the team up until 1969 hated black people and everyone knew it.
Edit - Hutch's response appeared as well by the time if posted this. I agree...DFA how the fuck could you not know any of this stuff?
Never really looked it up, honestly I didn't know the team had a history of racism. It hadn't really come up in the TV broadcasts while I've been watching them for 20 years... I followed the football aspect more than the racist owner who died 20 years before I was even born. So, yeah, this is eye opening, but what can I do about it. It's not like the team continues to not hire black people, or any other type of races. Racism is a part of this countries history. It's insanely disgusting to read this about the owner, but I still love the team.
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If BIll Cowher coaches this team I truly have zero expectations for them. I would be so upset if he takes over. The man has been out of coaching for 7 frickin years. Ugh.
No chance the skins get Bill Cowher. Every year, Cowher and John Gruden's names get floated around as possible head coach candidates and it's not gonna happen unless it is the absolute perfect situation. Also, they get paid millions right now to work one day a week.
the very idea of bill cowher coming out of "retirement" to work for snyder is laughable.
Like Joe Gibbs and Mike Shannahan...
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Cowher and Briles top list...
If BIll Cowher coaches this team I truly have zero expectations for them. I would be so upset if he takes over. The man has been out of coaching for 7 frickin years. Ugh.
No chance the skins get Bill Cowher. Every year, Cowher and John Gruden's names get floated around as possible head coach candidates and it's not gonna happen unless it is the absolute perfect situation. Also, they get paid millions right now to work one day a week.
the very idea of bill cowher coming out of "retirement" to work for snyder is laughable.
Like Joe Gibbs and Mike Shannahan...
you really are delusional if you think that joe gibbs and mike shanahan are similar situations to hiring bill cowher.
ANY football team would happily bring in cowher. hell, if he was available, i'm guessing more coaches would have been fired in hopes of hiring him. and the redskins job is likely on the bottom of his list of attractive suitors.
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Likely story, Danny boy waves around his checkbook and they'll flock to him. Especially seeing how much power he gave to Shannahan. Yes, we've been spun into a circus again, but money talks. It's no Lions gig, but I think it's still in the top 2 or 3.
I heard Lovie Smith went to Tampa Bay? How long before Redskins panic and back into another Zorn sitatuion. Ugh.
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I really can't see gruden or cowher taking any job and being world beaters. My nfl knowledge isn't the tops but when do HoF caliber coaches take approx a decade off and come back and be elite still? I think you naturally get lazy and somethings pass you by.
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The team should be better next year due to having all that extra cap room. They don't have a first pick but their second round pick is pretty high. I think it would be a good position to take as the owner likes to overpay coaches and they have nowhere to go but up. You could say you need a rebuild and that would give you several years of non-expectations. Actually how hard is it to be an NFL coach. You hire a good offensive and defensive coordinator and a decent special teams coach and sit back and let them do the rest. All you need to know is when to throw the challenge flag and whether to go for it on 4th down.
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all they have to do is hire the offensive coordinator for the seahawks WHO THEY ARE INTERVIEWING...
i called that weeks ago on this very thread.. that is who they should hire.. anyone who watches the seahawks knows that pete carroll basically watches the game (atomic's post above is precient)..
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I just don't understand it. I've heard it's a 5 year process blah blah, I know it takes time, but some places get turned around in a year or two. Colts gutted their team and got their quarterback and rebuilt and now look at them. I get that RG3 had his 2nd effing reconstructive knee surgery, but after so many years. Excuses just aren't enough. I'd like to see someone breathe some fresh air into this franchise and organization. I thought Bruce Allen and Mike Shannahan would do that. Turns out Shannahan is just another fucking brat.
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Team will NOT win any time soon.
I'd like to be proven wrong, but I don't see it happening. Karma is a bitch.
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all they have to do is hire the offensive coordinator for the seahawks WHO THEY ARE INTERVIEWING...
i called that weeks ago on this very thread.. that is who they should hire.. anyone who watches the seahawks knows that pete carroll basically watches the game (atomic's post above is precient)..
okay, this is somewhat true, but the culture and management and attitude carroll brings is also a big reason why his team is so successful.
think back when the patriots had their run of super bowls, and everyone was quick to credit romeo crennel and charlie weis for being outstanding coordinators. they didn't quite transform their next teams when they inevitably got HC gigs.
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all they have to do is hire the offensive coordinator for the seahawks WHO THEY ARE INTERVIEWING...
i called that weeks ago on this very thread.. that is who they should hire.. anyone who watches the seahawks knows that pete carroll basically watches the game (atomic's post above is precient)..
okay, this is somewhat true, but the culture and management and attitude carroll brings is also a big reason why his team is so successful.
think back when the patriots had their run of super bowls, and everyone was quick to credit romeo crennel and charlie weis for being outstanding coordinators. they didn't quite transform their next teams when they inevitably got HC gigs.
It helps to have Tom Brady on your team.
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Team will NOT win any time soon.
I'd like to be proven wrong, but I don't see it happening. Karma is a bitch.
I'm in this boat now. My optimism has finally been beat out of me. :-[
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/02/redskins-tout-new-poll-that-actually-shows-increasing-support-for-name-change/related/
i hate polls of any kind . . . here, lets ask a hundred to a thousand people the same question. and thats supposed to equal everybody.
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The name change debate is stupid. Just do it. Seriously. Who cares. Do anything. Just be called The Washingtons. I don't care. Win some fucking playoffs games for Christs sake. Win everything and bury the NFC East. Do it. That's all I want.
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Dan Snyder is proposing to license naming rights for the team much like most NFL teams now do for the stadiums. The Washington Chunky Soups? and the Washington Viagras? are the leading contenders at this point.
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my vote is for . . . the washington summers eve.
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my vote is for . . . the washington summers eve.
I love it. The douchiest team in the league.
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The name change debate is stupid. Just do it. Seriously. Who cares. Do anything. Just be called The Washingtons. I don't care. Win some fucking playoffs games for Christs sake. Win everything and bury the NFC East. Do it. That's all I want.
They would also sell a lot of new mechardise if they change the name.
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Washington Warmongers would be more representative.....
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More political correctness gone way beyond anything resembling sanity. All this talk of renaming a sports team by a city who renamed the bullets the WIZARDS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard)!
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Washington Warmongers would be more representative.....
You should start a new thread to come up with a new name for the team. When we get enough names we will have a vote off and then we will send our recommendation to Dan Snyder.
I still like the Washington Generals. Naming your self after a team that is 6 wins and 13000 loses is the so appropiate.
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I vote for the Redskins
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The Landover Landed Gentry
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Washington Pentagon or Washington Pentagons
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washington warriors has a nice ring. how about the washington porkers.
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Washington Taxers, Washington Spenders or Washington Tax and Spenders...
or
"The Washington Redtape"
the Washington Bureaucrats.....
nobody can beat a bureaucrat....
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the Washington Fiscal cliff
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slow down sir . . . youll finish too soon.
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The Washington Gentrificators
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More political correctness gone way beyond anything resembling sanity. All this talk of renaming a sports team by a city who renamed the bullets the WIZARDS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard)!
The city didn't do it - Abe did.
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More political correctness gone way beyond anything resembling sanity.
I'd like to hear you qualify this statement.
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More political correctness gone way beyond anything resembling sanity.
I'd like to hear you qualify this statement.
It stands on its own without qualification. Had I deemed qualification necessary I would have made said qualification at the time I posted.
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The Washington FreeShitForLazyPeople
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The Washington FreeShitForLazyPeople
I have one to name after you: The Washington Bitter Americans.
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so how desirable do you consider the washington coaching job when someone chooses waco, texas over you?
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10237284/art-briles-baylor-bears-staying-no-desire-leave
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The Washington FreeShitForLazyPeople
I have one to name after you: The Washington Bitter Americans.
Not bitter at all. I have no problem at all paying my way and taking responsibility for all the choices I have made in life. It does sadden me that our current leadership hides behind a thin veil of helping the downtrodden all the while doing everything in his power to keep them in a constant state of dependency. Back to the naming, my selection is much more appropriate given it is a Washington team we are proposing a name for and the political mindset of those currently in DC.
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The Washington Fatcats
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bvU7IfJo5rQ/TbBsCnMzf9I/AAAAAAAAAFc/05x8GnG8-uA/s1600/cat.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oR1qOKu56fw/T2qjZkrv8fI/AAAAAAAABFw/Vkt6U8RNLZM/s1600/superbowl-cat___02.jpg)
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The Washington Fatcats
Fat is not politically correct.
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The Washington RatBastards
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The Washington Fatcats
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bvU7IfJo5rQ/TbBsCnMzf9I/AAAAAAAAAFc/05x8GnG8-uA/s1600/cat.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oR1qOKu56fw/T2qjZkrv8fI/AAAAAAAABFw/Vkt6U8RNLZM/s1600/superbowl-cat___02.jpg)
(http://www.toonpool.com/user/612/files/winner_winner_chicken_dinner_1203045.jpg)
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The Landover Landed Gentry
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The Landover Landed Gentry
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The Landover Landed Gentry
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The Landover Landed Gentry
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the washington rg threes
http://www.nbcwashington.com/blogs/capital-games/Report-Robert-Griffin-III-Sally-Jenkins-Washington-Redskins.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_DCBrand
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Pretty funny how Sally never spent any time near the team until the last 3 weeks of the season and has no inside sources within the organization outside of Mike Shannahan.
Seriously, is anyone actually believing this obvious smear campaign? This is just coming off as petty to me now.
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I don't doubt that rg3 has a bit of a prima donna streak, but Sally Jenkins is a joke. I don't even bother reading what she writes.
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People had nothing but great things to say about him from high school, through college, and all of his teammates on the Skins... Yes, they aren't going to throw a guy under the bus, but none of these "leaks" are coming from anyone in that locker room... Regardless, glad Shannahan is gone.
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none of these "leaks" are coming from anyone in that locker room.
Where are they coming from?
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none of these "leaks" are coming from anyone in that locker room.
Where are they coming from?
I think he's saying it's all coming from Shannehan.
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none of these "leaks" are coming from anyone in that locker room.
Where are they coming from?
I think he's saying it's all coming from Shannehan.
I follow a few of the beat reporters on Twitter and read articles from the guys who are actually in contact with the players and in the locker room [or were] after games and during the week. Hell, most of the players even supported Shannahan and wanted him to stay. It's so odd. Everyone supported the coach AND the QB, and no one could figure out who was leaking this information. It just all stinks and points right back to the coach. It's so stupid. He's trying to protect himself and his legacy. Even his son is trying to distance himself from what his father is doing because he sees what a train wreck it was. He wanted to prove he was right by starting Kirk Cousins and it blew up in his face. Smeer everyone on the way out.
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none of these "leaks" are coming from anyone in that locker room.
Where are they coming from?
I think he's saying it's all coming from Shannehan.
I follow a few of the beat reporters on Twitter and read articles from the guys who are actually in contact with the players and in the locker room [or were] after games and during the week. Hell, most of the players even supported Shannahan and wanted him to stay. It's so odd. Everyone supported the coach AND the QB, and no one could figure out who was leaking this information. It just all stinks and points right back to the coach. It's so stupid. He's trying to protect himself and his legacy. Even his son is trying to distance himself from what his father is doing because he sees what a train wreck it was. He wanted to prove he was right by starting Kirk Cousins and it blew up in his face. Smeer everyone on the way out.
How was Shanahan stupid. He gets paid 7 million to do nothing this year. He is actually pretty smart.
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Pretty funny how Sally never spent any time near the team until the last 3 weeks of the season and has no inside sources within the organization outside of Mike Shannahan.
Says a guy on a messageboard.
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ooh . . . burn.
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none of these "leaks" are coming from anyone in that locker room.
Where are they coming from?
I think he's saying it's all coming from Shannehan.
I follow a few of the beat reporters on Twitter and read articles from the guys who are actually in contact with the players and in the locker room [or were] after games and during the week. Hell, most of the players even supported Shannahan and wanted him to stay. It's so odd. Everyone supported the coach AND the QB, and no one could figure out who was leaking this information. It just all stinks and points right back to the coach. It's so stupid. He's trying to protect himself and his legacy. Even his son is trying to distance himself from what his father is doing because he sees what a train wreck it was. He wanted to prove he was right by starting Kirk Cousins and it blew up in his face. Smeer everyone on the way out.
How was Shanahan stupid. He gets paid 7 million to do nothing this year. He is actually pretty smart.
I didn't say he was stupid, I said the situation is stupid. He got his money, he doesn't have to coach a team, I don't understand why he has to drag the owner and the quarterback down with him. Hence the pettiness.
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ooh . . . burn.
Nothing against DFA1979. You see all these Landover fans coming out of the woodwork to trash a reporter's connections to the team based on...?? Its ridiculous, and it just shows inherent bias. Of course you're not going to like a report that makes RG3 look bad (and Shanahan look good/better by extension): RG3 is still on your favorite team and Shanahan is not. No one has ever quit being a fan of their favorite team because a coach was fired. (Excepting, of course, family members of said coaches.)
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I mean, I don't really care for articles that make him out to be an angel. He's a human. For me it's more that this is an obvious smear campaign. People have said RG3 sucked since before we even drafted him, people are always going to say that. Hell, people say Peyton Manning sucks. It comes with being a sports fan. I just think this whole thing is ridiculous. He's on vacation with his wife and the team is looking for a coach. Everything about the old coach should have left with him.
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ooh . . . burn.
Nothing against DFA1979. You see all these Landover fans coming out of the woodwork to trash a reporter's connections to the team based on...?? Its ridiculous, and it just shows inherent bias. Of course you're not going to like a report that makes RG3 look bad (and Shanahan look good/better by extension): RG3 is still on your favorite team and Shanahan is not. No one has ever quit being a fan of their favorite team because a coach was fired. (Excepting, of course, family members of said coaches.)
I stopped being a fan of the Capitals when Bruce Bordeau got fired.
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So, you were a Capitals fan, and rooted for them to win, but when they fired a coach you lost all desire to continute rooting for that team? Were you just rooting for Bruce? Are you now rooting for the Ducks?
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So, you were a Capitals fan, and rooted for them to win, but when they fired a coach you lost all desire to continute rooting for that team? Were you just rooting for Bruce? Are you now rooting for the Ducks?
No not rooting for anyone. The team was boring when Mcphee forced Bruce to play the trap. And then when Hunter took over they were unwatchable. The unwatchable led to be stop rooting for the team. Then there was the lock-out which helped me become even less interested in the team, if that was even possible.
But I would rather Bruce win in Anaheim than the Capitals win. He seems like a nice guy and he really saved the franchise. He was rewarded by being fired.
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So, you were a Capitals fan, and rooted for them to win, but when they fired a coach you lost all desire to continute rooting for that team? Were you just rooting for Bruce? Are you now rooting for the Ducks?
No not rooting for anyone. The team was boring when Mcphee forced Bruce to play the trap. And then when Hunter took over they were unwatchable. The unwatchable led to be stop rooting for the team. Then there was the lock-out which helped me become even less interested in the team, if that was even possible.
But I would rather Bruce win in Anaheim than the Capitals win. He seems like a nice guy and he really saved the franchise. He was rewarded by being fired.
You're really an anti-fan. A fan supports the team he loves, regardless. You go to games to be entertained and to drink beer.
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So, you were a Capitals fan, and rooted for them to win, but when they fired a coach you lost all desire to continute rooting for that team? Were you just rooting for Bruce? Are you now rooting for the Ducks?
No not rooting for anyone. The team was boring when Mcphee forced Bruce to play the trap. And then when Hunter took over they were unwatchable. The unwatchable led to be stop rooting for the team. Then there was the lock-out which helped me become even less interested in the team, if that was even possible.
But I would rather Bruce win in Anaheim than the Capitals win. He seems like a nice guy and he really saved the franchise. He was rewarded by being fired.
So, if the Caps ever win a Cup you won't be happy? You're a loser.
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Redskins hire Jay Gruden
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000311077/article/jay-gruden-washington-redskins-finalize-deal
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2014 Pro Bowl Cheerleaders Selected:
http://www.nfl.com/photos/0ap2000000310391/0ap2000000310363
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I dont' know about this...
"Gruden's hire also brings him into a working marriage with Redskins general manager Bruce Allen, who worked for years with former Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden in Tampa Bay.
Darlington reported that Jim Haslett is expected to stay on as defensive coordinator. Gruden previously served under Haslett as offensive coordinator with the UFL's Florida Tuskers.
The Redskins also are expected to promote tight ends coach Sean McVay to offensive coordinator, according to ESPN."
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24402378/us-patent-and-trademark-deems-redskins-derogatory
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The team was boring when Mcphee forced Bruce to play the trap.
WTF are you talking about? McPhee didn't force BB to play a trap defense.
Show me one credible link that says McPhee forced the trap.
Winning the President's Trophy, then losing in the first round of the playoffs with a leaky defense, precipitated a more conservative approach. The 'force' was the 7-0 loss to NYR after an 8 game losing streak the next season.
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I dont' know about this...
"Gruden's hire also brings him into a working marriage with Redskins general manager Bruce Allen, who worked for years with former Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden in Tampa Bay.
Darlington reported that Jim Haslett is expected to stay on as defensive coordinator. Gruden previously served under Haslett as offensive coordinator with the UFL's Florida Tuskers.
The Redskins also are expected to promote tight ends coach Sean McVay to offensive coordinator, according to ESPN."
Also not a fan of him kind of being in bed with Bruce, but Raheem Morris was said to be bumped up to defensive coordinator [current defensive backs coach]. We'll see what he decides. This guy also had deep ties in Tennessee, but he was one of the top candidates. So we'll see what happens. I'll remain pessimistic.
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The team was boring when Mcphee forced Bruce to play the trap.
WTF are you talking about? McPhee didn't force BB to play a trap defense.
Show me one credible link that says McPhee forced the trap.
Winning the President's Trophy, then losing in the first round of the playoffs with a leaky defense, precipitated a more conservative approach. The 'force' was the 7-0 loss to NYR after an 8 game losing streak the next season.
The team was branded as being shut down in the playoffs and could not keep teams off the score board so Bruce instilled a more defensive mindset and it failed. Dale Hunter came in and was all defense and didn't even really care about coaching the team, so he left. I have faith in Adam Oates. I like his offensive style, and there is a lot of young, tough talent on the team that is picking up the 3rd and 4th lines and on the defensive ends. Everyone's just got to start clicking heading into the Olympic break. Don't want to go into a funk before an extended break.
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The team was boring when Mcphee forced Bruce to play the trap.
WTF are you talking about? McPhee didn't force BB to play a trap defense.
Show me one credible link that says McPhee forced the trap.
Winning the President's Trophy, then losing in the first round of the playoffs with a leaky defense, precipitated a more conservative approach. The 'force' was the 7-0 loss to NYR after an 8 game losing streak the next season.
The team was branded as being shut down in the playoffs and could not keep teams off the score board so Bruce instilled a more defensive mindset and it failed. Dale Hunter came in and was all defense and didn't even really care about coaching the team, so he left. I have faith in Adam Oates. I like his offensive style, and there is a lot of young, tough talent on the team that is picking up the 3rd and 4th lines and on the defensive ends. Everyone's just got to start clicking heading into the Olympic break. Don't want to go into a funk before an extended break.
I couldn't care less how they do this season or next. But I don't think the team has a lot of young talent. And you argued with me when I said the Erat was a bad deal. I think I have watched on game with Oates at the helm. It was boring. Bruce had the team playing exciting hockey. I watched him coach in Hershey and he made the game exciting there too. If all the coaches coached like Bruce the league would have a lot more fans. Anyway hockey is dead to me. I don't care what happens to the team. I wouldn't go to the game if you paid me.
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Yet all that exciting hockey didn't translate into a Stanley Cup...
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Yet all that exciting hockey didn't translate into a Stanley Cup...
All that boring hockey didn't lead to Stanley Cup either. If I am paying to go to a game or watching it on TV I want it to be intersting. But once again arguing with you is pointless as all you care about winning a championship and you always are terribly disappointed.
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(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19c21sjo6qn7xgif/ku-xlarge.gif)
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Yet all that exciting hockey didn't translate into a Stanley Cup...
All that boring hockey didn't lead to Stanley Cup either. If I am paying to go to a game or watching it on TV I want it to be intersting. But once again arguing with you is pointless as all you care about winning a championship and you always are terribly disappointed.
The Ravens field goaled their way to a Super Bowl and people seemed pretty content with that. You would seriously rather have Bruce Boudreau win 82 games a year for the next 50 years and lose in the 1st/2nd round of the playoffs ever year and to have a boring, low scoring team win a Stanley Cup?
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As much as I loathe Tony Kornheiser, he did have a good line about Jay Gruden yesterday:
"Jon Gruden was the number one choice, but instead you go for Michael Corleone. What if you get Fredo?"
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19c21sjo6qn7xgif/ku-xlarge.gif)
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I just can't believe this guy would have been hired if he wasn't jon gruden's brother...
and I think Jon Gruden is super overrated... just a weird choice.. bring him in but keep everything pretty much the same...since the guy is young and inexperienced he can't demand his own staff...
moreover, the bengals did not look good last weekend.. but I guess that didn't enter the mix... they probably had already decided...
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Yet all that exciting hockey didn't translate into a Stanley Cup...
All that boring hockey didn't lead to Stanley Cup either. If I am paying to go to a game or watching it on TV I want it to be intersting. But once again arguing with you is pointless as all you care about winning a championship and you always are terribly disappointed.
The Ravens field goaled their way to a Super Bowl and people seemed pretty content with that. You would seriously rather have Bruce Boudreau win 82 games a year for the next 50 years and lose in the 1st/2nd round of the playoffs ever year and to have a boring, low scoring team win a Stanley Cup?
Of course I would. I didn't even watch the whole super bowl the first time the Ravens won as the game was so boring. It is entertainment plain and simple. I get no benefits if they win a championship. It is a one game just like the rest of them. Sure it is fun to go watch at a bar and get drunk but a week later who cares?
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2014 Pro Bowl Cheerleaders Selected:
http://www.nfl.com/photos/0ap2000000310391/0ap2000000310363
Thank you.
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I just can't believe this guy would have been hired if he wasn't jon gruden's brother...
and I think Jon Gruden is super overrated... just a weird choice.. bring him in but keep everything pretty much the same...since the guy is young and inexperienced he can't demand his own staff...
moreover, the bengals did not look good last weekend.. but I guess that didn't enter the mix... they probably had already decided...
Do you really think this guy was in the top 3 "hot" candidates for any team because he was related to Jon Gruden? I think that's silly.
I'm surprised we picked him up, but I don't really know much about the guy. Hearing complaints about his offensive scheme in Cincinnati it seemed like they were inconsistent. Even with that inconsistency, they still managed to climb in offensive production throughout his tenure and Andy Dalton was molded into a rather stout passer. Them not having more than 1 wide receiver threat also doesn't help that inconsistency. We saw that against the Chargers... Regardless, I'll stick to my pessimism.
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Do you really think this guy was in the top 3 "hot" candidates for any team because he was related to Jon Gruden? I think that's silly.
I think he was a "hot" candidate because he was voted 4th Best Arena Football League Player of All Time.
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Do you really think this guy was in the top 3 "hot" candidates for any team because he was related to Jon Gruden? I think that's silly.
I think he was a "hot" candidate because he was voted 4th Best Arena Football League Player of All Time.
See. It's not because he's Jon Gruden's brother.
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Do you really think this guy was in the top 3 "hot" candidates for any team because he was related to Jon Gruden? I think that's silly.
I think he was a "hot" candidate because he was voted 4th Best Arena Football League Player of All Time.
See. It's not because he's Jon Gruden's brother.
I stand corrected.
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Davis LOVES him some weed.
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Davis LOVES him some weed.
He was simply treating his post-concussion syndrome (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24417980/goodell-would-consider-medical-marijuana-if-helps-treat-concussions)
btw - I believe it is no coincidence that the Super Bowl is being played by the two teams from the only two states to legalize recreational pot. It's a sign Roger; it's a sign....
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Wait, how is it not a coincidence?
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Sarcasm.
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Sarcasm.
Stupid internet.
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http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/01/24/redskins-name-debate-reaches-united-nations/
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http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/01/24/redskins-name-debate-reaches-united-nations/
a sample of what can be found in the comments section:
"All of these stinking, whiny, fascistic liberals purport that they like pure democracy and majority rule, so lets have a vote among the members of all Native American tribes to either keep Indian names for teams or get rid of them all together. The reason they won't do this ... because it's well known that the vast majority of Native Americans are NOT offended and most like the names. Stinking, whiny liberals don't really like a straight majority rule or a democracy of any kind. Each individual liberal is a narcissistic, pathetic, little, fascist dictator wanna-be that wants to impose and force their own beliefs and feelings on everyone else. Just like their messiah, the Islamic Sultan, Obama."
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also, walkie, where do you find half this shit?
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i am obsessed with reading news on the net. not having cable for eight years will do that to you.
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http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/01/24/redskins-name-debate-reaches-united-nations/
a sample of what can be found in the comments section:
"All of these stinking, whiny, fascistic liberals purport that they like pure democracy and majority rule, so lets have a vote among the members of all Native American tribes to either keep Indian names for teams or get rid of them all together. The reason they won't do this ... because it's well known that the vast majority of Native Americans are NOT offended and most like the names. Stinking, whiny liberals don't really like a straight majority rule or a democracy of any kind. Each individual liberal is a narcissistic, pathetic, little, fascist dictator wanna-be that wants to impose and force their own beliefs and feelings on everyone else. Just like their messiah, the Islamic Sultan, Obama."
Well the guy bringing to the United Nations seems like he is against it. The name is obviously offensive. I wish they would just change it already.
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/03/28/dan_snyder_gary_edwards_did_the_owner_of_the_washington_nfl_team_bother.html
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/03/28/dan_snyder_gary_edwards_did_the_owner_of_the_washington_nfl_team_bother.html
Why do you need to announce your gifts to Native American groups. Just give them money if you actually want to help. Peter Angelos doesn't advertise the gifts the Orioles and he gives to charities.
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/03/28/dan_snyder_gary_edwards_did_the_owner_of_the_washington_nfl_team_bother.html
Why do you need to announce your gifts to Native American groups. Just give them money if you actually want to help. Peter Angelos doesn't advertise the gifts the Orioles and he gives to charities.
It's so transparent...if not for the bad press over the name he'd never be giving these groups his money.
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New uniform design:
(http://cover32.com/redskins/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2014/04/Redskins-Uniform.jpg)
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Arizona State called and they'd like their UNIFORMZ back.
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New uniform design:
(http://cover32.com/redskins/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2014/04/Redskins-Uniform.jpg)
Those are piss ugly. Where did you find this? I haven't been able to pull anything up. Every year there are rumors of new uniforms.
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Looks like a retouch of this:
(http://manifestoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/adrian-peterson-cowboys-uniform.jpg)
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These were the rumored "new uniforms" from last year:
(http://realredskins.typepad.com/.a/6a015432d86661970c014e8a10a0b6970d-pi)
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New uniform design:
(http://cover32.com/redskins/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2014/04/Redskins-Uniform.jpg)
Those are piss ugly. Where did you find this? I haven't been able to pull anything up. Every year there are rumors of new uniforms.
http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/a_proposed_new_uniform_for_the_washington_redskins_is_pretty_sweet/16286671?linksrc=story_article_msn_original_head_16286671
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d'oh
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2029053-2014-nfl-schedule-w-l-predictions-for-every-team/page/21
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I've said it before and I will say it again. This team will never be a consistent contender while Snyder is at the top. Sure they may have the occasional winning record. But they will never be a serious threat to do anything in the NFL.
Cursed. Yes, they are cursed.
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Cursed. Yes, they are cursed.
It's like that house in Poltergeist that was built on the Native American burial ground! I wonder what Snyder could do to reverse the mojo?
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Cursed. Yes, they are cursed.
It's like that house in Poltergeist that was built on the Native American burial ground! I wonder what Snyder could do to reverse the mojo?
Yes something like that! Team will be clean when he sells it!
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Cursed. Yes, they are cursed.
It's like that house in Poltergeist that was built on the Native American burial ground! I wonder what Snyder could do to reverse the mojo?
Yes something like that! Team will be clean when he sells it!
Not really the solution I was envisioning, but ok!!
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I've said it before and I will say it again. This team will never be a consistent contender while Snyder is at the top. Sure they may have the occasional winning record. But they will never be a serious threat to do anything in the NFL.
Cursed. Yes, they are cursed.
i wonder how much he could get for selling the franchise now...its a bit diminished ..so the strange thing is his incentive to sell will be higher when they win....cause he can then get a higher price..but if he wins he will not want to sell..
i think snyder will own the team for the rest of our lives... at least another 30-40 years
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i think snyder will own the team for the rest of our lives... at least another 30-40 years
i think you're right, unfortunately. my impression is that he's the "ultimate" fan, and that ego would never allow him to relinquish his control or concede on any point (e.g. the name).
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I've said it before and I will say it again. This team will never be a consistent contender while Snyder is at the top. Sure they may have the occasional winning record. But they will never be a serious threat to do anything in the NFL.
Cursed. Yes, they are cursed.
i wonder how much he could get for selling the franchise now...its a bit diminished ..so the strange thing is his incentive to sell will be higher when they win....cause he can then get a higher price..but if he wins he will not want to sell..
i think snyder will own the team for the rest of our lives... at least another 30-40 years
He will never sell this team. He will die and all his kids and wives will fight over the scraps.
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There are few things in this world I have a fatalistic view of....this team is one of them.
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Snyder ranked worse- yes 32- owner in the league
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfls-best-owners-221600785--nfl.html
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?The Washington Redskins announced today the 10 members of the organization selected to join the 70 Greatest Redskins named in 2002 and complete the 80 Greatest Redskins of All-Time,? the team?s Web site announced in the summer of 2012. That?s a bunch of greatness in one sentence. Former linebacker LaVar Arrington was among the 10 men ?selected by fans and a blue ribbon panel? to join that list of great Redskins.
But being named a Redskins great is different than marketing yourself as a Redskins great, and so Dan Snyder recently sent Arrington a cease-and-desist letter about a flier for his football tackling camps that refers to him as a ?Redskins great? and includes a photo of him in a Redskins uniform.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/daniel-snyder-issues-cease-and-desist-letter-to--former-redskins-great--lavar-arrington-173522524.html
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?The Washington Redskins announced today the 10 members of the organization selected to join the 70 Greatest Redskins named in 2002 and complete the 80 Greatest Redskins of All-Time,? the team?s Web site announced in the summer of 2012. That?s a bunch of greatness in one sentence. Former linebacker LaVar Arrington was among the 10 men ?selected by fans and a blue ribbon panel? to join that list of great Redskins.
But being named a Redskins great is different than marketing yourself as a Redskins great, and so Dan Snyder recently sent Arrington a cease-and-desist letter about a flier for his football tackling camps that refers to him as a ?Redskins great? and includes a photo of him in a Redskins uniform.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/daniel-snyder-issues-cease-and-desist-letter-to--former-redskins-great--lavar-arrington-173522524.html
This made me laugh. I loved Arrington on the field, as I've listened to his radio show, I've come to like him a lot less. He seems nice enough. Just something about him.
I don't think the team is cursed. If Bobby Griff is healthy, they're a contender. Maybe not a top seed, but wild card, why not? DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garcon? That's insane! Plus Jordan Reed. Offense should be more fun to watch this year. Alf as the battering ram in the run game. Our offense looks exhausting. But, we are off season champions, so I'll wait and see.
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?The Washington Redskins announced today the 10 members of the organization selected to join the 70 Greatest Redskins named in 2002 and complete the 80 Greatest Redskins of All-Time,? the team?s Web site announced in the summer of 2012. That?s a bunch of greatness in one sentence. Former linebacker LaVar Arrington was among the 10 men ?selected by fans and a blue ribbon panel? to join that list of great Redskins.
But being named a Redskins great is different than marketing yourself as a Redskins great, and so Dan Snyder recently sent Arrington a cease-and-desist letter about a flier for his football tackling camps that refers to him as a ?Redskins great? and includes a photo of him in a Redskins uniform.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/daniel-snyder-issues-cease-and-desist-letter-to--former-redskins-great--lavar-arrington-173522524.html
Snyder is a real-life troll.
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?The Washington Redskins announced today the 10 members of the organization selected to join the 70 Greatest Redskins named in 2002 and complete the 80 Greatest Redskins of All-Time,? the team?s Web site announced in the summer of 2012. That?s a bunch of greatness in one sentence. Former linebacker LaVar Arrington was among the 10 men ?selected by fans and a blue ribbon panel? to join that list of great Redskins.
But being named a Redskins great is different than marketing yourself as a Redskins great, and so Dan Snyder recently sent Arrington a cease-and-desist letter about a flier for his football tackling camps that refers to him as a ?Redskins great? and includes a photo of him in a Redskins uniform.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/daniel-snyder-issues-cease-and-desist-letter-to--former-redskins-great--lavar-arrington-173522524.html
Snyder is a real-life troll.
you just wish the fans would boycott the team until he sold it...if nobody went to the games or bought all that gear.... they are very very profitable.. the minute they win 3 games in a row everybody forgets about snyder
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I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.
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I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.
I could support that...
Sterling the more I think about it the more I think he's going senile.... his recent statements on Magic for example...
I actually am not sure the NBA is within its rights to take away his team.....as much as I disagree with the statements he made
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I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.
I could support that...
Sterling the more I think about it the more I think he's going senile.... his recent statements on Magic for example...
I actually am not sure the NBA is within its rights to take away his team.....as much as I disagree with the statements he made
I agree they have the right to take it away even if he has full blown dementia. How they take away his separated wife's 50% stake legally... completely other issue. She was spot on with her rhetorical question to Walters asking if an owners wife said something like this, do we believe for one second they'd take the team away from the male?
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I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.
I could support that...
Sterling the more I think about it the more I think he's going senile.... his recent statements on Magic for example...
I actually am not sure the NBA is within its rights to take away his team.....as much as I disagree with the statements he made
I agree they have the right to take it away even if he has full blown dementia. How they take away his separated wife's 50% stake legally... completely other issue. She was spot on with her rhetorical question to Walters asking if an owners wife said something like this, do we believe for one second they'd take the team away from the male?
well I'm not sure... I don't like what he said... and maybe he has been a bad owner...but if he's going senile.. i mean is there something in the NBA that says we take away teams from owners saying stupid shit cause they're going senile..
cause he ain't the first owner to go senile... so its like "oh we only take it away if you're going senile and get caught sayign stupid shit?"
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http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/22/5741518/half-of-us-senate-calls-for-redskins-name-change
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I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.
I agree. If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that. It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone. See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.
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I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.
I agree. If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that. It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone. See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.
So you support Sterling's appeal of his banishment and fine because he made his comments in a private conversation with his whore - err - I mean "friend"?
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I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.
I agree. If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that. It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone. See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.
So you support Sterling's appeal of his banishment and fine because he made his comments in a private conversation with his whore - err - I mean "friend"?
Yeah you should be able to say whatever you want in your own home.
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This should clear things up. (http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2014/05/06/sympathy-for-the-christian-bigot/)
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I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.
I agree. If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that. It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone. See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.
So you support Sterling's appeal of his banishment and fine because he made his comments in a private conversation with his whore - err - I mean "friend"?
Yeah you should be able to say whatever you want in your own home.
He can say what her wants without prosecution. But he owns a franchise. And the other 29 owners have a right to protect their brand.
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I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.
I agree. If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that. It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone. See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.
So you support Sterling's appeal of his banishment and fine because he made his comments in a private conversation with his whore - err - I mean "friend"?
Yeah you should be able to say whatever you want in your own home.
He can say what her wants without prosecution. But he owns a franchise. And the other 29 owners have to right to protect their brand.
No they don't. Why do they care what he says at home. I am sure if you put microphones in the homes of NBA players they would say all sorts of stuff that would hurt the NBA. It is an invasion of privacy and he is allowed to have his views in private that are his own. This is a horrible path to set. He should sue them for everything they have. If he was a press conference and said things like this than it hurts the league and they can throw him out.
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I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.
I agree. If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that. It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone. See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.
So you support Sterling's appeal of his banishment and fine because he made his comments in a private conversation with his whore - err - I mean "friend"?
Yeah you should be able to say whatever you want in your own home.
He can say what her wants without prosecution. But he owns a franchise. And the other 29 owners have to right to protect their brand.
No they don't. Why do they care what he says at home. I am sure if you put microphones in the homes of NBA players they would say all sorts of stuff that would hurt the NBA. It is an invasion of privacy and he is allowed to have his views in private that are his own. This is a horrible path to set. He should sue them for everything they have. If he was a press conference and said things like this than it hurts the league and they can throw him out.
I think the woman that taped this and leaked it is a horrible human being. On this I'm sure we agree. I'm also sure that some of the other owners and players are horrible people who say horrible and hateful things all the time that never get heard. But the bullet has left the gun. Time and place and context do not matter a this point. And this is a franchise, other peoples financial interests are at stake and subject to VERY significant damage. I think they are within their rights to protect these interests.
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I feel if the NFL had any balls, they'd copy the NBA's example and force him to sell the team, change the name, and ban all season-ticket owners for life for financially supporting a racist name WHICH IS MATERIALLY MUCH WORSE THAN STERLING'S COMMENTS.
I agree. If Snyder wants to insult Native Americans in the privacy of his home I have no issue with that. It is the offensive name that his football team has that is an insulting to everyone. See if you can find any local tribe willing to give their name to the team for a cash payment. Change the name to that tribes name and everyone is happy.
So you support Sterling's appeal of his banishment and fine because he made his comments in a private conversation with his whore - err - I mean "friend"?
Yeah you should be able to say whatever you want in your own home.
He can say what her wants without prosecution. But he owns a franchise. And the other 29 owners have to right to protect their brand.
No they don't. Why do they care what he says at home. I am sure if you put microphones in the homes of NBA players they would say all sorts of stuff that would hurt the NBA. It is an invasion of privacy and he is allowed to have his views in private that are his own. This is a horrible path to set. He should sue them for everything they have. If he was a press conference and said things like this than it hurts the league and they can throw him out.
I think the woman that taped this and leaked it is a horrible human being. On this I'm sure we agree. I'm also sure that some of the other owners and players are horrible people who say horrible and hateful things all the time that never get heard. But the bullet has left the gun. Time and place and context do not matter a this point. And this is a franchise, other peoples financial interests are at stake and subject to VERY significant damage. I think they are within their rights to protect these interests.
Well the league may or may not be within their rights to protect these interets...Sterling may be iwthin his rights to protect his interests from significant damage.
It will come down to the courts.... there are arguments for both sides... I don't think anybody can say with any level of certitude whether this should shake out, legally speaking, one way or the other..
Taking away people's property is not a simple matter even if at first glance it looks to be so.... Mark Cuban made a comment yesterday that taken out of context, and combined with his prior history as an owner, could result in the Sterling precedent being used on him... One could argue Cuban has done more that could be construed as being against the league's interests than Sterling...
Lets also be clear... the man is 82 years old and may be losing his mind...
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Don't you see this guy holding on for another year or two, then eventually changing the name in an unwritten exchange for getting a Super Bowl at his new domed stadium in DC? If he can make a buck on it, I have a feeling he will be in.
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Don't you see this guy holding on for another year or two, then eventually changing the name in an unwritten exchange for getting a Super Bowl at his new domed stadium in DC? If he can make a buck on it, I have a feeling he will be in.
that's a great point.
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oh snap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-tbOxlhvE
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more on the above:
Opponents to run anti-'Redskins' ad
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11061396/opponents-run-anti-washington-redskins-ad-nba-finals
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its over...even snyder must know it..
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its over...even snyder must know it..
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
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This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs. If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words. I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use. In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".
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This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs. If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words. I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use. In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".
I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names. Your argument is weak.
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This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs. If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words. I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use. In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".
thank you for this. it's refreshing to see that someone is finally starting to speak out for the camels.
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This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs. If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words. I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use. In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".
I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names. Your argument is weak.
Oh, people are offended.
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This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs. If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words. I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use. In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".
I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names. Your argument is weak.
So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.
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This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs. If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words. I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use. In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".
I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names. Your argument is weak.
So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.
Provide examples or your argument is as weak as it always is.
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look its over.. the name has to go...its offensive to a lot of people.... even non-indians for crying out loud.
the crummy owner should get ahead of the story and change the name.. they could use a reboot anyways.... they've sucked since about 1993 for crying out loud.. that's more than two decades...
the owner should be smart and do it now.. not wait til his hand is ultimately forced which is what will happen... do it from a position of strength and maybe even exact some concessions in return
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Exact concessions from whom?
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Exact concessions from whom?
The Indians of course. Get some of that casino money.
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Exact concessions from whom?
The Indians of course. Get some of that casino money.
Now that's the first reasonable thing I've heard all day!
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concessions from the NFL of course and also from DC... they'll be moving back to DC at some point and getting a very nice stadium and everything they want as long as they change the frickin' name...
I can't speak to what the NFL could "give" Snyder but I'm sure they could work out some nice handshake deal... When was the last time Washington hosted the Super Bowl, for example?
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This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs. If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words. I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use. In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".
I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names. Your argument is weak.
So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.
Provide examples or your argument is as weak as it always is.
The camel issue is a perfect example. there are many people who are offended by the silly use of the term "n-word", as if we all don't know what word it refers to. When discussing the word 'nigger' as offensive as it is, are we not grown up enough that we can actually say the word we are talking about rather than saying "n-word" as if it made things any better? Truth be told 99% of the so called politically correct" terms are just plain offensive and silly.
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look its over.. the name has to go...its offensive to a lot of people.... even non-indians for crying out loud.
the crummy owner should get ahead of the story and change the name.. they could use a reboot anyways.... they've sucked since about 1993 for crying out loud.. that's more than two decades...
the owner should be smart and do it now.. not wait til his hand is ultimately forced which is what will happen... do it from a position of strength and maybe even exact some concessions in return
EVERY word is offensive to some people. I agree with you that sooner or later the name will change. It has nothing to do with what is right or wrong though, it has more to do with the PC crap that has taken over the USA.
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heck maybe- i know its outlandish- he could get some compensatory draft picks... additional cap space...a lower royalty rate on merch... I don't know.... I'm sure Snyder and the NFL lawyers can come up with something in private.
its embarrassing to the NFL to have the team with this name... make them pay for the embarrassment to go away..
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This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs. If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words. I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use. In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".
I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names. Your argument is weak.
So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.
Provide examples or your argument is as weak as it always is.
The camel issue is a perfect example. there are many people who are offended by the silly use of the term "n-word", as if we all don't know what word it refers to. When discussing the word 'nigger' as offensive as it is, are we not grown up enough that we can actually say the word we are talking about rather than saying "n-word" as if it made things any better? Truth be told 99% of the so called politically correct" terms are just plain offensive and silly.
I don't understand your point. I've never heard anyone offended by the euphemism "the n-word" being used in lieu of "nigger" and I live in a congressional district that just said Eric Cantor wasn't a sufficiently hateful, conservative loon for their liking.
I think atomic made an excellent point. He gave five other area sports team names and claims he's never heard anyone find their use offensive or racist. (Nor have I.) You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?
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look its over.. the name has to go...its offensive to a lot of people.... even non-indians for crying out loud.
the crummy owner should get ahead of the story and change the name.. they could use a reboot anyways.... they've sucked since about 1993 for crying out loud.. that's more than two decades...
the owner should be smart and do it now.. not wait til his hand is ultimately forced which is what will happen... do it from a position of strength and maybe even exact some concessions in return
EVERY word is offensive to some people. I agree with you that sooner or later the name will change. It has nothing to do with what is right or wrong though, it has more to do with the PC crap that has taken over the USA.
Explain to whom and for what reason the word "and" is offensive. Hyperbole much?
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You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?
I was offended by the stupidity of naming them the Nationals.... they should have been the Senators.. the only saving grace is that people used to call the Senators "the Nats" and people now call the Nationals "the Nats"..
DC has a long tradition of stupidity in names... picking the Wizards for the NBA team comes to mind...
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You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?
I was offended by the stupidity of naming them the Nationals.... they should have been the Senators.. the only saving grace is that people used to call the Senators "the Nats" and people now call the Nationals "the Nats"..
DC has a long tradition of stupidity in names... picking the Wizards for the NBA team comes to mind...
You do understand that's a huge gulf between "not liking something and/or thinking it's stupid" vs "finding it racially offensive and having no place in civilized society."
Let's not conflate "this team name is dumb" with "this is a derogatory slur for an ethnicity."
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You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?
I was offended by the stupidity of naming them the Nationals.... they should have been the Senators.. the only saving grace is that people used to call the Senators "the Nats" and people now call the Nationals "the Nats"..
DC has a long tradition of stupidity in names... picking the Wizards for the NBA team comes to mind...
You do understand that's a huge gulf between "not liking something and/or thinking it's stupid" vs "finding it racially offensive and having no place in civilized society."
Let's not conflate "this team name is dumb" with "this is a derogatory slur for an ethnicity."
yes I get it man.
but, stupidity also offends me... ;D
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This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs. If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words. I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use. In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".
I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names. Your argument is weak.
So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.
Provide examples or your argument is as weak as it always is.
The camel issue is a perfect example. there are many people who are offended by the silly use of the term "n-word", as if we all don't know what word it refers to. When discussing the word 'nigger' as offensive as it is, are we not grown up enough that we can actually say the word we are talking about rather than saying "n-word" as if it made things any better? Truth be told 99% of the so called politically correct" terms are just plain offensive and silly.
So you are saying the Washington Cunts has a nice ring to it?
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You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?
I was offended by the stupidity of naming them the Nationals.... they should have been the Senators.. the only saving grace is that people used to call the Senators "the Nats" and people now call the Nationals "the Nats"..
DC has a long tradition of stupidity in names... picking the Wizards for the NBA team comes to mind...
Actually none of the DC teams have good names. You need a team that you can get a mascot. I guess you could get a Native American to dance for the Football team but some might not like it. I think Rhinos came in second for a choice for the Ravens. That would be a great name for a football team and you could have a live rhino on the sideline...how awesome would that be?
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Exact concessions from whom?
The Indians of course. Get some of that casino money.
They prefer the term "Native American", please and thank you.
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DC team names? They changed the NBA team form Bullets and the official reason was that 'bullets' was offensive because of the violence associated with the term. So what do they change it to, 'Wizards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard)' as if that were not more offensive that bullets. Proof positive that PC types are 100% full of shit.
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DC team names? They changed the NBA team form Bullets and the official reason was that 'bullets' was offensive because of the violence associated with the term. So what do they change it to, 'Wizards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard)' as if that were not more offensive that bullets. Proof positive that PC types are 100% full of shit.
How is wizards more offensive than bullets? Whom is it offensive to? Warlocks?
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DC team names? They changed the NBA team form Bullets and the official reason was that 'bullets' was offensive because of the violence associated with the term. So what do they change it to, 'Wizards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard)' as if that were not more offensive that bullets. Proof positive that PC types are 100% full of shit.
How is wizards more offensive than bullets? Whom is it offensive to? Warlocks?
I find it offensive. It reminds me of people who play Dungeons and Dragons and I think someone needs to be beat up for being so nerdy so it gets me in an angry mood.
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DC team names? They changed the NBA team form Bullets and the official reason was that 'bullets' was offensive because of the violence associated with the term. So what do they change it to, 'Wizards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard)' as if that were not more offensive that bullets. Proof positive that PC types are 100% full of shit.
How is wizards more offensive than bullets? Whom is it offensive to? Warlocks?
I find it offensive. It reminds me of people who play Dungeons and Dragons and I think someone needs to be beat up for being so nerdy so it gets me in an angry mood.
Lets leave killsaly out of this...
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This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs. If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words. I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use. In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".
I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names. Your argument is weak.
So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.
Provide examples or your argument is as weak as it always is.
The camel issue is a perfect example. there are many people who are offended by the silly use of the term "n-word", as if we all don't know what word it refers to. When discussing the word 'nigger' as offensive as it is, are we not grown up enough that we can actually say the word we are talking about rather than saying "n-word" as if it made things any better? Truth be told 99% of the so called politically correct" terms are just plain offensive and silly.
So you are saying the Washington Cunts has a nice ring to it?
it has a nice ring to it. halftime show can be a mock abortion. or fuck it, a real abortion, it's ratbastard's america and there's no room for being PC.
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This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs. If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words. I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use. In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".
I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names. Your argument is weak.
So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.
Provide examples or your argument is as weak as it always is.
The camel issue is a perfect example. there are many people who are offended by the silly use of the term "n-word", as if we all don't know what word it refers to. When discussing the word 'nigger' as offensive as it is, are we not grown up enough that we can actually say the word we are talking about rather than saying "n-word" as if it made things any better? Truth be told 99% of the so called politically correct" terms are just plain offensive and silly.
So you are saying the Washington Cunts has a nice ring to it?
it has a nice ring to it. halftime show can be a mock abortion. or fuck it, a real abortion, it's ratbastard's america and there's no room for being PC.
You could even have a fan contest to see which lucky fan gets to make the initial incision!
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DC team names? They changed the NBA team form Bullets and the official reason was that 'bullets' was offensive because of the violence associated with the term. So what do they change it to, 'Wizards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard)' as if that were not more offensive that bullets. Proof positive that PC types are 100% full of shit.
How is wizards more offensive than bullets? Whom is it offensive to? Warlocks?
I take it you did not click the link.
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I don't understand your point. I've never heard anyone offended by the euphemism "the n-word" being used in lieu of "nigger" and I live in a congressional district that just said Eric Cantor wasn't a sufficiently hateful, conservative loon for their liking.
I think atomic made an excellent point. He gave five other area sports team names and claims he's never heard anyone find their use offensive or racist. (Nor have I.) You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?
I personally am offended by the term 'n-word'.
I did not claim team names could be offensive. I claimed that for any word, we could dig and eventually find someone who is offended by that word. I don't profess to know 'how' or 'why' anyone would find any given word offensive, but I am saying that someone will choose to be offended by any given word we pick.
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DC team names? They changed the NBA team form Bullets and the official reason was that 'bullets' was offensive because of the violence associated with the term. So what do they change it to, 'Wizards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard)' as if that were not more offensive that bullets. Proof positive that PC types are 100% full of shit.
How is wizards more offensive than bullets? Whom is it offensive to? Warlocks?
I take it you did not click the link.
i missed it.
That said, figuratively no one hears "the Washington Wizards" and sees the logo with a magician and goes, "oh this is a KKK reference." Conversely, figuratively every person on earth acknowledges the name of the Washington NFL team is a racial slur devoid of any defendable alternate meaning. The two situations could not constitute more of a false equivalency. You're either intellectual dishonest or intellectually disabled to claim otherwise.
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look its over.. the name has to go...its offensive to a lot of people.... even non-indians for crying out loud.
the crummy owner should get ahead of the story and change the name.. they could use a reboot anyways.... they've sucked since about 1993 for crying out loud.. that's more than two decades...
the owner should be smart and do it now.. not wait til his hand is ultimately forced which is what will happen... do it from a position of strength and maybe even exact some concessions in return
EVERY word is offensive to some people. I agree with you that sooner or later the name will change. It has nothing to do with what is right or wrong though, it has more to do with the PC crap that has taken over the USA.
Explain to whom and for what reason the word "and" is offensive. Hyperbole much?
I don't know why anyone would be offended by any word. That does not mean that people are not choosing to be offended. I find the whole concept of people choosing to be offended by words to be the silliest thing on the face of the earth. Having said that, I do find the term 'n-word' to be offensive. Not so much as for the term itself, but for the childishness and insult to the intelligence of others when someone uses that thinking 1) the rest of us do not know they are really saying 'nigger', and 2) that saying 'n-word' is any better than saying the word 'nigger'. Its the concept that using the PC term makes it OK. It is not so much offensive in the true sense of the word as it is laughable that others use such terms.
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DC team names? They changed the NBA team form Bullets and the official reason was that 'bullets' was offensive because of the violence associated with the term. So what do they change it to, 'Wizards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Wizard)' as if that were not more offensive that bullets. Proof positive that PC types are 100% full of shit.
How is wizards more offensive than bullets? Whom is it offensive to? Warlocks?
I take it you did not click the link.
i missed it.
That said, figuratively no one hears "the Washington Wizards" and sees the logo with a magician and goes, "oh this is a KKK reference." Conversely, figuratively every person on earth acknowledges the name of the Washington NFL team is a racial slur devoid of any defendable alternate meaning. The two situations could not constitute more of a false equivalency. You're either intellectual dishonest or intellectually disabled to claim otherwise.
The KKK was the very first thing I thought of when I heard the name Wizards. I do not find the term Redskins even slightly offensive.
I seriously doubt that most poeple saw he name bullets and thought of murder.
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You're either intellectual dishonest or intellectually disabled to claim otherwise.
that's got to be the fanciest way of saying "you're stupid' i've ever seen.
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You're either intellectual dishonest or intellectually disabled to claim otherwise.
that's got to be the fanciest way of saying "you're stupid' i've ever seen.
+1
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Right, "laughable," "silly," and "childish" aren't even on the same planet as an intentional slur against an ethnic group. You're equating apples to hyperbolic, hateful oranges.
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You're either intellectual dishonest or intellectually disabled to claim otherwise.
that's got to be the fanciest way of saying "you're stupid' i've ever seen.
No, I leave open the possibility he's not stupid, but rather being intentionally tone-deaf for some entertainment purposes. But, yes, if he actually believes this, he's so stupid that his being alive at his age all but disproves survival of the fittest.
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Right, "laughable," "silly," and "childish" aren't even on the same planet as an intentional slur against an ethnic group. You're equating apples to hyperbolic, hateful oranges.
Whatever makes you feel better about yourself. IMHO using the term 'n-word' is is exactly the same as saying the word 'nigger', if not worse. Worse in that you are saying the word and hiding behind some silly PC term thinking it makes you better to do so.
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You're either intellectual dishonest or intellectually disabled to claim otherwise.
that's got to be the fanciest way of saying "you're stupid' i've ever seen.
No, I leave open the possibility he's not stupid, but rather being intentionally tone-deaf for some entertainment purposes. But, yes, if he actually believes this, he's so stupid that his being alive at his age all but disproves survival of the fittest.
You really believe it takes someone stupid to see a team named the Wizards, especially a team in a sport dominated by black players, and think of the KKK connection? I think it takes someone ignorant to not make that connection.
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Goddamn ratbastard, you are a stupid motherfucker, it is genuinely unbelievable.
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Goddamn ratbastard, you are a stupid motherfucker, it is genuinely unbelievable.
Thank you for your opinion. I'd fight to the death for your right to have it and express it.
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We should come up with a list of names for them to choose. I like the Landover Commuters. Or if they need to pretend they are in Dc. The Washington lobbyists. Maybe the panda bears. They could borrow a panda from the zoo to be their mascot.
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As I've suggested 800 times: the Landover Landed Gentry.
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As I've suggested 800 times: the Landover Landed Gentry.
Everyone keep suggesting names and when we have a good number I will start a poll. After the poll results are final I will email Dan Snyder the results.
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six flags america presents football
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six flags america presents football
I like it. Sell the team name to the highest bidder.
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six flags america presents football
I like it. Sell the team name to the highest bidder.
Well Danny does own them both.
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The KKK was the very first thing I thought of when I heard the name Wizards.
that tells us a lot more about you then it does about the name itself.
I seriously doubt that most poeple saw he name bullets and thought of murder.
now you're just making shit up. bullets, especially in DC in the 80's, = murder and violence.
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(http://americanmanufacturing.org/files/WashingtonMonument002.jpg)
(http://freemasonrywatch.org/pics/kkk_hood.jpg)
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How about the Washington Midgets? We could get a lot of people willing to be the mascot. We could have a mascot toss at half-time. Throw the mascot the furtherst, get a prize.
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how about, we worry, about them winning, for fucks sake?
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The KKK was the very first thing I thought of when I heard the name Wizards.
that tells us a lot more about you then it does about the name itself.
It was logical to think of that. The name was changed. The reason that was given was (supposed) offensive nature of the prior name. Logically one would consider if any new name might have any negative connotation.
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I seriously doubt that most poeple saw he name bullets and thought of murder.
now you're just making shit up. bullets, especially in DC in the 80's, = murder and violence.
So by your logic I should think carefully before riding the bullet train. We don't even need to get into the discussion of criminals = murder and violence.
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how about, we worry, about them winning, for fucks sake?
+1 But in all honesty I am not a fan of the skins at all. I root for the Eagles.
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six flags america presents football
I like it. Sell the team name to the highest bidder.
Well that is the usual way things are done in DC anyway!
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i'm starting to think that ratbastard's america has a different definition for the word "logic"
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i'm starting to think that ratbastard's america has a different definition for the word "logic"
Based on the rules of today's libtard PC world it indeed does.
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In Landmark Decision, U.S. Patent Office Cancels Trademark For Redskins Football Team
http://thinkprogress.org/sports/2014/06/18/3450333/in-landmark-decision-us-patent-office-cancels-trademark-for-redskins-football-team/
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In Landmark Decision, U.S. Patent Office Cancels Trademark For Redskins Football Team
http://thinkprogress.org/sports/2014/06/18/3450333/in-landmark-decision-us-patent-office-cancels-trademark-for-redskins-football-team/
"The team will almost certainly appeal the case, and it will be able to keep its trademark protection during appeal. "
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqa1K1NCQAAqWVS.png)
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(http://d1jrw5jterzxwu.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/default/files/uploads/redskins-argument-bingo.jpg)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqa1K1NCQAAqWVS.png)
would wear.
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I have never actually heard anyone say "I have a lot of native american friends".
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We should organize a boycott of the Washington Post and other publications until they stop printing the team's name. If no one will print the team name I am sure the team would change it pretty quickly.
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We should organize a boycott of the Washington Post and other publications until they stop printing the team's name. If no one will print the team name I am sure the team would change it pretty quickly.
People still read newspapers?
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We should organize a boycott of the Washington Post and other publications until they stop printing the team's name. If no one will print the team name I am sure the team would change it pretty quickly.
People still read newspapers?
People still post on message boards?
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We should organize a boycott of the Washington Post and other publications until they stop printing the team's name. If no one will print the team name I am sure the team would change it pretty quickly.
amazing idea.
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We should organize a boycott of the Washington Post and other publications until they stop printing the team's name. If no one will print the team name I am sure the team would change it pretty quickly.
amazing idea.
Lots of newspapers have already been doing this, no effect. Get one network that broadcasts NFL games to tell their announcers to call them "the Washington NFL" team and refuse to use the name/logo in their graphics packages, and the name will be changed within a week.
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(http://d1jrw5jterzxwu.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/default/files/uploads/redskins-argument-bingo.jpg)
If Snyder changes the name to "Landover Landed Gentry," we all win immediately.
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I've never been to Landover, but I'm thinking it's not really populated by the landed gentry?
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I've never been to Landover, but I'm thinking it's not really populated by the landed gentry?
You never went to the Capital Center or Six Flags?
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Why would I go to either of those places?
I'm not into hockey, and wouldn't drive to Landover to see a Wizards game. Actually, it appears that the Bullets moved to DC the same year I did, 1997.
And i'm an adult who until recently was childless, so had ho reason to go to amusement parks.
I've never been to Landover, but I'm thinking it's not really populated by the landed gentry?
You never went to the Capital Center or Six Flags?
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We should organize a boycott of the Washington Post and other publications until they stop printing the team's name. If no one will print the team name I am sure the team would change it pretty quickly.
People still read newspapers?
People still post on message boards?
It's how I get my news.
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Why would I go to either of those places?
I'm not into hockey, and wouldn't drive to Landover to see a Wizards game. Actually, it appears that the Bullets moved to DC the same year I did, 1997.
And i'm an adult who until recently was childless, so had ho reason to go to amusement parks.
I've never been to Landover, but I'm thinking it's not really populated by the landed gentry?
You never went to the Capital Center or Six Flags?
You don't like fun? Where did you live before you came to DC?
Besides seeing numerous Capitals games at the Capital Center I saw the Harlem Globetrotters there in the 70's. INXS and Bon Jovi there in the 80's. And I went to Six Flags when they were called Wild World. I remember when they got their first rollercoaster that they bought used. And while riding it I saw all these extra parts sitting on the ground like they forgot a few pieces.
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http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/d-c-who-5-new-names-for-the-washington-redskins-20140618
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http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/d-c-who-5-new-names-for-the-washington-redskins-20140618
Other than the Beltway Black Cats I really don't like any of those names. How about the Landover Patsies? It has a nice ring to it.
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In Landmark Decision, U.S. Patent Office Cancels Trademark For Redskins Football Team
http://thinkprogress.org/sports/2014/06/18/3450333/in-landmark-decision-us-patent-office-cancels-trademark-for-redskins-football-team/
It is not actually a landmark decision. The exact same decision was made before and overturned on appeal. The second time something happens is by default not a landmark. Poor reporting as usual by the majority of media these days.
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Maybe they will rename them the Washington Klansmen in keeping with the name f the city's NBA team.
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well they're going to have to rename them something. at some point, and I think its getting close, the NFL isnt going to like this continuing focus and they're going to have a chat with Danny-boy...
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Perhaps it's the fact that you live in such a backassward city that makes you think of the Klan upon hearing the word "wizard". When I Google image the word "wizard", I see a whole lot of pictures, none of them making reference to the Klan.
Maybe they will rename them the Washington Klansmen in keeping with the name f the city's NBA team.
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http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/d-c-who-5-new-names-for-the-washington-redskins-20140618
Actually like the Beltway Black Cats and DC Dukes.
I still want them to go with Washington War Paint. They could keep everything the same and just change the name. Maybe update the logo to have some war paint on it. Even though the feathers already do...
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Some other suggestions:
Washington's My Little Ponies
Landover baby bunnies
DC Pansies
Washington Lollygaggers
Washington Crips&Bloods
Landover Hells Angels
DC Presidental Interns
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Two more
Washington Metrosexuals
And my favorite:
DC Chimpanzees
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you might, want to reconsider, that last one.
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you might, want to reconsider, that last one.
Why Chimps are cute. They can be mean and are strong as well. Best of both worlds.
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Who, are you, Howard Cosell?
you might, want to reconsider, that last one.
Why Chimps are cute. They can be mean and are strong as well. Best of both worlds.
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Who, are you, Howard Cosell?
you might, want to reconsider, that last one.
Why Chimps are cute. They can be mean and are strong as well. Best of both worlds.
Oh I see Howard Cosell called someone "a little monkey". Well chimps are not monkeys and it was not meant that way.
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Perhaps it's the fact that you live in such a backassward city that makes you think of the Klan upon hearing the word "wizard". When I Google image the word "wizard", I see a whole lot of pictures, none of them making reference to the Klan.
Maybe they will rename them the Washington Klansmen in keeping with the name f the city's NBA team.
It has nothing to do with where I live of what I think. What you or I think in general has nothing to do with PC name changes either. It is whether someone might perceive that someone else might be offended by the name. BTW just to correct yet another point you made, the KKK is not the first thing I think of when I hear the term wizard, however when considering a name change for PC reasons I would absolutely be sure that the name I selected did not have any offensive connotations. The whole PC name change thing is about whether someone COULD BE offended by a name. Well it is an absolute that a black person playing in the NBA could very easily be offended by a team name of wizard. No one who supports the concept PC name changes can deny that fact.
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I guess the Cleveland Browns need to change their name too.
I have never once heard or read about anyone complaining about the Wizards name.
Perhaps it's the fact that you live in such a backassward city that makes you think of the Klan upon hearing the word "wizard". When I Google image the word "wizard", I see a whole lot of pictures, none of them making reference to the Klan.
Maybe they will rename them the Washington Klansmen in keeping with the name f the city's NBA team.
It has nothing to do with where I live of what I think. What you or I think in general has nothing to do with PC name changes either. It is whether someone might perceive that someone else might be offended by the name. BTW just to correct yet another point you made, the KKK is not the first thing I think of when I hear the term wizard, however when considering a name change for PC reasons I would absolutely be sure that the name I selected did not have any offensive connotations. The whole PC name change thing is about whether someone COULD BE offended by a name. Well it is an absolute that a black person playing in the NBA could very easily be offended by a team name of wizard. No one who supports the concept PC name changes can deny that fact.
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I like the idea that I heard on a radio talk show yesterday. No more team names at all. None. Each team is simply referred to by ts city. So the NFL team in DC would simply be called Washington. If there is a city with more than one team they would be refereed to by there league/conference/division as NFC New York and AFC New York (much akin to when there was both a NFL and MLB NY Giants and the former was commonly referred to as the New York Football Giants).
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I guess the Cleveland Browns need to change their name too.
I have never once heard or read about anyone complaining about the Wizards name.
Perhaps it's the fact that you live in such a backassward city that makes you think of the Klan upon hearing the word "wizard". When I Google image the word "wizard", I see a whole lot of pictures, none of them making reference to the Klan.
Maybe they will rename them the Washington Klansmen in keeping with the name f the city's NBA team.
It has nothing to do with where I live of what I think. What you or I think in general has nothing to do with PC name changes either. It is whether someone might perceive that someone else might be offended by the name. BTW just to correct yet another point you made, the KKK is not the first thing I think of when I hear the term wizard, however when considering a name change for PC reasons I would absolutely be sure that the name I selected did not have any offensive connotations. The whole PC name change thing is about whether someone COULD BE offended by a name. Well it is an absolute that a black person playing in the NBA could very easily be offended by a team name of wizard. No one who supports the concept PC name changes can deny that fact.
1) How about the Saints? Might not christians be offended by that name? Is this the next name that we need to get changed?
2) The PC thing is not about whether someone is complaining, it is about whether someone somewhere MIGHT be offended.
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Rat bastard is the angriest man in the world.
Ok back on topic.
The Washington Tea Baggers
DC Stars
RGIII's Team.
Landover Toddlers
Maryland Crabbers
Prince George County Inmates
the Washington Pants Party
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Oh what I like most about the Tea Baggers is that they could actual Tea Bag the opposing quarter back after every sack.
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Actually Ratbastard, most of us disagree with your number two point. Hypothetical, imaginary offense taken by a theoretical person somewhere in no way equates to actual offense taken by tens of millions of real people. You keep saying this insane thing as though if you repeat it enough times it's true, but it's not. It's illogical.
It's sort of like going "anyone could hypothetically commit a murder so why should we prosecute people who actually did commit murders?"
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I think Rat Bastard might like some of these
Washington School Shooters
DC NRA Patriots
Washington Tax and Spend Conservativs
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Rat bastard is the angriest man in the world.
Ok back on topic.
The Washington Tea Baggers
DC Stars
RGIII's Team.
Landover Toddlers
Maryland Crabbers
Prince George County Inmates
the Washington Pants Party
LOL actually I live a very happy life, thanks for playing! :)
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DC Stars hahaha that's great! That band sucked haha.
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Washington School Shooters
Not only local to DC would not work.
DC NRA Patriots
Not really in favor of corporate/lobby sponsorships.
Washington Tax and Spend Conservativs
Mutually exclusive.
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Actually Ratbastard, most of us disagree with your number two point. Hypothetical, imaginary offense taken by a theoretical person somewhere in no way equates to actual offense taken by tens of millions of real people. You keep saying this insane thing as though if you repeat it enough times it's true, but it's not. It's illogical.
It's sort of like going "anyone could hypothetically commit a murder so why should we prosecute people who actually did commit murders?"
It has nothing to do with theory. Not even close. It is an absolute fact that a huge proportion of NBA players are black. It is an absolute fact that the largest anti-black group in this country's history was/is the KKK. It is an absolute fact that the leader of the KKK is called the grand wizard. There is nothing imaginary about any of that.
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DC Stars hahaha that's great! That band sucked haha.
Is it me or is you?
I just looked them up and it seems their lead singer dies 3 years ago of cancer.
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Actually Ratbastard, most of us disagree with your number two point. Hypothetical, imaginary offense taken by a theoretical person somewhere in no way equates to actual offense taken by tens of millions of real people. You keep saying this insane thing as though if you repeat it enough times it's true, but it's not. It's illogical.
It's sort of like going "anyone could hypothetically commit a murder so why should we prosecute people who actually did commit murders?"
It has nothing to do with theory. Not even close. It is an absolute fact that a huge proportion of NBA players are black. It is an absolute fact that the largest anti-black group in this country's history was/is the KKK. It is an absolute fact that the leader of the KKK is called the grand wizard. There is nothing imaginary about any of that.
its theoretical because you fail to show one example of anyone ACTUALLY SAYING they're offended. No NBA player is anti-Wizards name publicly. I can find no evidence thru google searches of anyone but you -- who says yourself that you're not offended -- making a connection between the name and the KKK. On the other hand, there is massive, apparent dislike of the Redskins name.
This is called strawman-ism, and it's a trade you and atomic apply regularly. Instead of arguing the actual merits of an issue (in this case, the suitability of the NFL teams name) you conflate that issue with a make believe issue (the idea that if a name offends on person, it's just as bad as if it offends 100million, a thought no one on here believes despite how liberal PC you purport us to be) that no one actually argues (a strawman), in hopes of making the actual topic being discussed look foolish by association. Unfortunately, this isn't Fox News, so none of us fall for that.
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I have never once associated the name Wizards and the KKK or ever heard the connection until this thread. It's probably the single most idiotic thing I've read related to the Redskins name change.
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Actually Ratbastard, most of us disagree with your number two point. Hypothetical, imaginary offense taken by a theoretical person somewhere in no way equates to actual offense taken by tens of millions of real people. You keep saying this insane thing as though if you repeat it enough times it's true, but it's not. It's illogical.
It's sort of like going "anyone could hypothetically commit a murder so why should we prosecute people who actually did commit murders?"
It has nothing to do with theory. Not even close. It is an absolute fact that a huge proportion of NBA players are black. It is an absolute fact that the largest anti-black group in this country's history was/is the KKK. It is an absolute fact that the leader of the KKK is called the grand wizard. There is nothing imaginary about any of that.
its theoretical because you fail to show one example of anyone ACTUALLY SAYING they're offended. No NBA player is anti-Wizards name publicly. I can find no evidence thru google searches of anyone but you -- who says yourself that you're not offended -- making a connection between the name and the KKK. On the other hand, there is massive, apparent dislike of the Redskins name.
This is called strawman-ism, and it's a trade you and atomic apply regularly. Instead of arguing the actual merits of an issue (in this case, the suitability of the NFL teams name) you conflate that issue with a make believe issue (the idea that if a name offends on person, it's just as bad as if it offends 100million, a thought no one on here believes despite how liberal PC you purport us to be) that no one actually argues (a strawman), in hopes of making the actual topic being discussed look foolish by association. Unfortunately, this isn't Fox News, so none of us fall for that.
Please give examples of me doing this. I only state facts. If you don't like the facts I state that is your problem. Don't try to lump be in with Ratbastard.
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http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/08/19/in-preseason-game-redskins-run-onto-field-with-hands-up-for-michael-brown/
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http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/08/19/in-preseason-game-redskins-run-onto-field-with-hands-up-for-michael-brown/
Yeah the Washington NFL team is totally whom I want to hear commentary about race relations in America from. Totally.
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http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/08/19/in-preseason-game-redskins-run-onto-field-with-hands-up-for-michael-brown/
Yeah the Washington NFL team is totally who I want to hear commentary about race relations in America. Totally.
Darn it, Redskins.
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The Federal Communications Commission, an independent government agency that regulates radio and television broadcasts, is considering whether to fine and punish broadcasters for using the Washington Redskins nickname (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/fcc-considering-ban-on-redskins-nickname--punishment-for-announcers-222031059.html)
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It won't happen.
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Why not?
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Publicity Stunts like this won't work. If you believe in your cause, confront your naysayers.
http://deadspin.com/disgraced-soon-to-be-former-navajo-nation-president-at-1645509844?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
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Can't he watch a game with his bro?
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DFA basically trying to get invited into snyder's private box by publicly defending him on the 930 forums. i say declare yourself from native american-descent and see how far this thing goes.
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Not at all defending him. Just asking a question.
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Not at all defending him. Just asking a question.
Because, unless I am missing something, its not his "bro." If dan Snyder and this gentleman were schoolyard chums 40 years ago and have kept a long, vibrant friendship, then sure. When it is clearly not someone Dan Snyder is actually friends with -- because, you know, I don't think alot of team owners supply lists of job titles for their visiting friends to their broadcast partners so that can just COINCIDENTALLY get on TV -- it reeks of PR stunt.
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They're bros.
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The team is horrible, and they need to change the goddamn name already. I can't justify my lifelong allegiance much longer.
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Whenever I'm sitting with Larry Baer or Jed York and happen to get on TV, my name and job title aren't posted on the broadcast.
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can i, play with your balls?
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Whenever I'm sitting with Larry Baer or Jed York and happen to get on TV, my name and job title aren't posted on the broadcast.
Apparently you're not "bros" then. Bros make sure broadcast partners hype bros, bro.
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Whenever I'm sitting with Larry Baer or Jed York and happen to get on TV, my name and job title aren't posted on the broadcast.
Apparently you're not "bros" then. Bros make sure broadcast partners hype bros, bro.
It's the definition of bro'ing down. Sorry you don't have any bros I guess.
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Whenever I'm sitting with Larry Baer or Jed York and happen to get on TV, my name and job title aren't posted on the broadcast.
Apparently you're not "bros" then. Bros make sure broadcast partners hype bros, bro.
It's the definition of bro'ing down. Sorry you don't have any bros I guess.
Oh, no, Bro. That's cold as snow, Bro.
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Whenever I'm sitting with Larry Baer or Jed York and happen to get on TV, my name and job title aren't posted on the broadcast.
Apparently you're not "bros" then. Bros make sure broadcast partners hype bros, bro.
It's the definition of bro'ing down. Sorry you don't have any bros I guess.
Oh, no, Bro. That's cold as snow, Bro.
Not as cold as these 2 deuce deuces I'm about to shotgun before hitting happy hour at the wild wings.
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Years ago Snyder used to entertain the likes of Katie Holmes, Tom Cruise, Jamie Foxx, Colin Powell, Madeliine Albright, and Alan Greenspan in the owners box. Guessing those guys wouldn't be caught dead in that box anymore.
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Now it's corrupt disgraced traitors. (http://trib.al/vaCa5e0)
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The team from Landover is the worst sack of shit franchise I can think of....
Got to hand it to the fans though... they are loyal to a fault!
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How big, are your balls?
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A+ for you effort to steer the conversation away from sports.
How big, are your balls?
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Years ago Snyder used to entertain the likes of Katie Holmes, Tom Cruise, Jamie Foxx, Colin Powell, Madeliine Albright, and Alan Greenspan in the owners box. Guessing those guys wouldn't be caught dead in that box anymore.
Didn't he take the "Cruise" family to Six Flags like last year? Or maybe it was longer ago than that...
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The team from Landover is the worst sack of shit franchise I can think of....
Got to hand it to the fans though... they are loyal to a fault!
*cough* Raiders *cough*
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A+ for you effort to steer the conversation away from sports.
How big, are your balls?
to be fair, none of this is really about sports.
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A+ for you effort to steer the conversation away from sports.
How big, are your balls?
to be fair, none of this is really about sports.
To be fair, I don't really know what the Redskins are doing when they take the field anyway. It's definitely not playing football. That's for damn sure.
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Glenn Beck says he loves Redskins owner Daniel Snyder, will be sitting in the owner?s box on Sunday
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/10/15/glenn-beck-says-he-loves-redskins-owner-daniel-snyder-will-be-sitting-in-the-owners-box-on-sunday/?tid=hpModule_c7c1f590-868f-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394&hpid=z12
Years ago Snyder used to entertain the likes of Katie Holmes, Tom Cruise, Jamie Foxx, Colin Powell, Madeliine Albright, and Alan Greenspan in the owners box. Guessing those guys wouldn't be caught dead in that box anymore.
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I rest my case.
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Low, hangers?
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Glastonbury restricts the sale of Native American headdresses at 2015 event (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/oct/15/glastonbury-bans-sale-native-american-headdresses-2015-festival)
An online petition has been successful in its bid to prevent the ceremonial item from being sold without prior discussion with organisers
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lol
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i'm still waiting for Julian to pass fashion judgement on this. but maybe festival fashion isn't his (deluxe overpriced) bag...
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thread title needs to be changed....I wouldn't want the 930 Club to be sued or something...
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better?
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I think the name of this thread is an homage to 930 Clubs members bullish stances on things they believe in. It shouldn't be changed. There's a tradition to this message board and this thread in particular.
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better?
man that is awesome....love the "American Football" too...
its like a dream title..
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Is everyone stoked for the start of the Colt McCoy era? He could bring the team back to the glory days of Todd Collins or Danny Weurffel.
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God. I love this team. But the blind optimism is just insane in this town. The guy almost literally did NOTHING and people think he's the IT guy. Everyone clammoring for Kirk Cousins have been shut up. I never wanted him in over RG3. I'm not saying rush HIM back either, but there's just no hope. MNF might be another classic Redskins blood bath. At the hands of our rivals no less.
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Scalp them and give them smallpox.
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Redskins blood bath.
Irony
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Redskins blood bath.
Irony
An homage to a great people.
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Someone need to send Dan Synder some blankets.
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(http://38.media.tumblr.com/4d04f27d1155d9ddb9830076d78c8c84/tumblr_ndlifacT7e1tm3rrno1_1280.jpg)
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In Arizona, a Navajo high school emerges as a defender of the Washington Redskins
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/in-arizona-a-navajo-high-school-emerges-as-a-defender-of-the-washington-redskins/2014/10/26/dcfc773a-592b-11e4-8264-deed989ae9a2_story.html
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In Arizona, a Navajo high school emerges as a defender of the Washington Redskins
Isn't this sort of akin to African Americans being comfortable with calling each other the "n" word, but getting upset when other races, notably Caucasian folks, do the same?
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In Arizona, a Navajo high school emerges as a defender of the Washington Redskins
Isn't this sort of akin to African Americans being comfortable with calling each other the "n" word, but getting upset when other races, notably Caucasian folks, do the same?
Right on, cracker.
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In Arizona, a Navajo high school emerges as a defender of the Washington Redskins
Isn't this sort of akin to African Americans being comfortable with calling each other the "n" word, but getting upset when other races, notably Caucasian folks, do the same?
That's honkey talk.
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In Arizona, a Navajo high school emerges as a defender of the Washington Redskins
Isn't this sort of akin to African Americans being comfortable with calling each other the "n" word, but getting upset when other races, notably Caucasian folks, do the same?
Stop getting salty, sugartits.
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(http://i.imgur.com/GZOOPuH.jpg)
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(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrDbDSVCYAAjn5l.jpg)
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(http://www.korkedbats.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Less-Offensive-Redskins-Logos-13.jpg)
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Fun win! Weeee!
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11808434/call-start-robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-came-top
Multiple members of the Washington Redskins organization told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter this week that they believe the decision to go back to quarterback Robert Griffin III and away from Colt McCoy, who had led the team to two straight wins, is an owner- and general manager-driven decision.
Griffin's support with players, however, is not as strong as it is with the highest levels of the organization, according to sources.
When Griffin began addressing the media in the locker room on Friday for the first time since dislocating his left ankle in Week 2, about 15 teammates began shouting. It was so loud and distracting, the franchise quarterback -- and reporters -- had to leave the locker room so Griffin could speak someplace where he could be heard. That's when the cheering got even more boisterous.
A source familiar with the incident told ESPN's Britt McHenry that Griffin has "alienated himself" from the locker room.
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:o, :o....
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11808434/call-start-robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-came-top
Multiple members of the Washington Redskins organization told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter this week that they believe the decision to go back to quarterback Robert Griffin III and away from Colt McCoy, who had led the team to two straight wins, is an owner- and general manager-driven decision.
Griffin's support with players, however, is not as strong as it is with the highest levels of the organization, according to sources.
When Griffin began addressing the media in the locker room on Friday for the first time since dislocating his left ankle in Week 2, about 15 teammates began shouting. It was so loud and distracting, the franchise quarterback -- and reporters -- had to leave the locker room so Griffin could speak someplace where he could be heard. That's when the cheering got even more boisterous.
A source familiar with the incident told ESPN's Britt McHenry that Griffin has "alienated himself" from the locker room.
This is weird. I liked Gruden's comments after the game.
Also, this game sucked. Went to the Caps game afterwards. That sucked too.
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MECHANICSVILLE, Va. (WUSA9) -- A Washington Redskins fan who passed away Monday was able to make one last dig at the team.
John Ray Bartgis died on Monday, November 10 at age 52 after battling lung cancer. In his obituary, he asked the Redskins to grant one of his "final wishes."
"John was also a diehard Washington Redskins fan, and one of his final wishes was that the team members would be his pallbearers so they can let him down one last time," the obituary reads.
Bartgis was a staff sergeant in the National Guard for 12 years who loved motor sports going each year to the Hatfield McCoy Trails with his work buddies.
The service will be held Thursday at 2 p.m. in Mechanicsville.
http://www.wusa9.com/story/sports/2014/11/13/die-hard-redskins-fan-john-ray-bartgis-puts-final-wish-in-obituary/18973673/
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Bravo.
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My opinion is RGIII sucks now...but also that the team has quit on him.. a good while ago... they ust don't want to win with him...
http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/brian-mitchell-goes-redskins-postgame-rant?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
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1. Fuck Brian Mitchell. I'm sick of all these old players coming back to DC to make money off the team because people think they know shit even though they all fucking sucked. I heard Shaun Springs on the radio this morning. WHY? Come on.
2. There's no reason this team doesn't want to win with RG3. I just don't fucking understand it. Ok, not everyone in the locker room likes him, but could that group of guys REALLY just GIVE UP and lose on purpose? If so, then I just give up on this team. Did they give up on Kirk Cousins too? Is that what happened to him? RG3 had 1 good season under his belt and since then hasn't had the time to develop. If this season is going to be a hard lesson, fine. But him and the team have to realize that he has to utilize his legs. If those players are really being divas and saying "I don't want to win with this guy" then fuck all of them. That's not being on a team at all. There's a reason Kirk is a back up and Colt is a 3rd stringer on his.... 5th team? Come on.
That being said, this team is a fucking dumpster fire.
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For years now I've been chuckling at the futility that is the Washington Redskins. At this point I don't know what is more pathetic - the team, or the hapless fans that are actually standing by waiting for this team to turn it around.
Make no mistake. This team will be a loser as long as Snyder is the owner. And he's not selling, ever. How old is he? 50, tops? I'd say you have about 25-35 more years of being one of the biggest turkeys in the history of pro sports.
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What does his ownership have to do with it? You really think bringing in a whole new owner will change everything?
I'm done waiting around. The Redskins are what they are and their track record proves it. It sucks that they have made me really not like any football.
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What does his ownership have to do with it?
This question leads me to several conclusions:
You have not been paying any real attention to this team for the last 10+ years.
You have no concrete idea of how a professional sports organization runs or of the qualities it needs to be sucessful.
In fact, if you can't understand the importance of strong effective leadership you don't have much of a clue about anything.
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Because Snyder is a total douchebag and karma will never let him succeed. Remember how he threatened to bankrupt the City Paper unless they apologized for criticizing him? Now that the U.S. Trademark office ruled that the Redskins name is disparaging what does Snyder do? Does he appeal the federal decision? No. Instead he files personal lawsuits against the native Americans who first complained to the Trademark office. Why? Because he can threaten them with bankruptcy as well unless they withdraw their complaint. He's a bully, and like most bullies, he's really just an insecure little pussy underneath.
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Alright, so Dan Snyder makes all the football decisions in the organization? Leaving Bruce Allen to be his puppet? That's a rumor. A rumor that starts when the team blows hard on a consistent basis. Blaming the owner is just as easy as blaming the quarterback. All the years the team sucked before Snyder was it Jack Kent Cooks fault? Come on, man.
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Because Snyder is a total douchebag and karma will never let him succeed. Remember how he threatened to bankrupt the City Paper unless they apologized for criticizing him? Now that the U.S. Trademark office ruled that the Redskins name is disparaging what does Snyder do? Does he appeal the federal decision? No. Instead he files personal lawsuits against the native Americans who first complained to the Trademark office. Why? Because he can threaten them with bankruptcy as well unless they withdraw their complaint. He's a bully, and like most bullies, he's really just an insecure little pussy underneath.
So, no football decisions here, it's just karma? Come on. Like EVERY owner is a fucking angel? I'd rather him just fall back into the shadows and to his credit he has over the past few years, but I guess it's not enough. I really don't think him selling the team will turn the team around in.... oh, 5 years? I just don't. Unfortunately it's a cash cow and we won't know that for sure for a long time. Like Chaz said.
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you do realize, that this a game, played by grown men, who are all on drugs, that you know nothing really about because you have never played it at the level or the skill that they do. could you please go find a cure for something, now?
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Drugs are cool though
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DeSean Jackson; "You can't do epic (expletive) with basic people"
RGIII yesterday "It doesn't take one guy.. that's proven.. if you want to look at Peyton Manning or Rogers... those guys dont play well if....I need everyone in that locker room to play well"
RGIII is done in DC. And Jay Gruden has been a huge dissapointment.
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To be fair, Jay Gruden was brought here to win, not necessarily to win with RG3. He's been pretty vocal about "we'll see" when it comes to RG3 being the future of the franchise.
Bruce and Dan did some kind of job on Jay to kind of mask just how fucked up the environment is.
The line was garbage yesterday. He was hitting receivers in the hands yesterday and they were dropping it. I'm not sticking up for RG3, but he has a point. And DeSean Jackson has more than carried his weight this season. It's INSANE that he has been on this team for a couple months and he's been so vocal and shown leadership in that locker room. So insane.
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I thin there's a way to know if the owner is the issue, but that requires real access to the organization or maybe a whistleblower who knows how things are run by leadership...then you have to compare it with organizations that have large-winning records, like the Patriots, Packers (personnel related decisions) or the Seahawks maybe, and then find where the differences are in coaching, drafting and free agency and how ownership affects those decisions.
But to change things around, I guess fans need to stop attending/watching games so the bottom line is affected, imo.
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so the team gets rid of RGIII and starts over again...YET AGAIN....its just hopeless....
I never understood why they got Gruden.. they should have gotten somebody from the Seahawks....either their defensive or offensive coordinator...
do the Redskins have a first round pick in next year's draft?
as far as the fans.. they just keep supportign them no matter what....its unbelievable....the minute they win one game everybody jumps back on the bandwagon..
this team needs a new owner, new stadium, new name and obviously a new quaterback..
you can't beat Tampa at home after a bye week??? come on now... this may be their most pitiful loss yet....
the team does not want RGIII to win....
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so the team gets rid of RGIII and starts over again...YET AGAIN....its just hopeless....
I never understood why they got Gruden.. they should have gotten somebody from the Seahawks....either their defensive or offensive coordinator...
do the Redskins have a first round pick in next year's draft?
as far as the fans.. they just keep supportign them no matter what....its unbelievable....the minute they win one game everybody jumps back on the bandwagon..
this team needs a new owner, new stadium, new name and obviously a new quaterback..
you can't beat Tampa at home after a bye week??? come on now... this may be their most pitiful loss yet....
the team does not want RGIII to win....
I think eventually ownership and the organization will get the message. It may take awhile. Just look at how the stadium looks during the game. The Upper bowls are barely half full. Fans of the opposing team are going in there and filling out the stadium. It's sad. If that's what ownership wants, that's what they get. That stadium is PATHETIC on game day.
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Snyder wants the stadium pathetic because he's angling for a new stadium (http://), with all the incumbent tax breaks and subsidies. And you can bet there will be personal seat licenses at the new one.
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I think eventually ownership and the organization will get the message. It may take awhile. Just look at how the stadium looks during the game. The Upper bowls are barely half full. Fans of the opposing team are going in there and filling out the stadium. It's sad. If that's what ownership wants, that's what they get. That stadium is PATHETIC on game day.
Holy shit which team have you been watching the last 10 or 15 years, cuz it sure doesn't seem like it's been this one.
The stadium has been clearing out late in the season every year (with the exception of rgiii's first) for as long as Snyder has owned the team. He's not getting the message. The place has ALWAYS been full of opposing fans from NY, Dallas, Philly, every year since that place has been opened regardless of where skins were in the standings.
The team is a joke, holding out hope that it is in Snyder's capability to right the ship is a joke. Just wait for him to die.
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I just dont think the city of DC is goin to be that interested in getting them back if they're such losers.... people in DC have hockey, basketball and baseball
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I think eventually ownership and the organization will get the message. It may take awhile. Just look at how the stadium looks during the game. The Upper bowls are barely half full. Fans of the opposing team are going in there and filling out the stadium. It's sad. If that's what ownership wants, that's what they get. That stadium is PATHETIC on game day.
Holy shit which team have you been watching the last 10 or 15 years, cuz it sure doesn't seem like it's been this one.
The stadium has been clearing out late in the season every year (with the exception of rgiii's first) for as long as Snyder has owned the team. He's not getting the message. The place has ALWAYS been full of opposing fans from NY, Dallas, Philly, every year since that place has been opened regardless of where skins were in the standings.
The team is a joke, holding out hope that it is in Snyder's capability to right the ship is a joke. Just wait for him to die.
All it took was that 2012 to bring back hope. That 2012 season washed away all doubt. But jumping right back to a 3-13 season, now switching coaching regimes and possibly headed to another 3 or 4 win season? It's just going to get worse and worse.
I really don't think Snyder is a huge fan of the team tanking as a way to be like "Look! Now get me a new stadium." But, we can all believe what we want.
All the DC teams are losers. All 4 teams have been in the playoffs in the past 2 years and people are still beaten down. Maybe not so much by the Wizards, but if they make the playoffs and go deeper this year, it'll be just more disappointment and that idiotic "DC sports team!" curse.
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Robert Griffin III?s number of critics appear to be growing with each Washington Redskins loss.
Count NFL analyst and former league star Rodney Harrison among those now calling for Washington to end its relationship with the struggling Griffin sooner rather than later.
?They?ve surrounded Griffin with great weapons,? Harrison said during a nationally televised NBC pre-game show. ?I just think it comes down to RGIII. I don?t think he can read coverages. He?s been in the league three years. If you need six more games to determine if he?s going to be your future quarterback, you need a new coach and a new scouting department. I?ve seen enough. I don?t think he fits in the system. I think you have to get rid of him.?
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what a fall for RGIII... really unreal
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what a fall for RGIII... really unreal
Any fan of this team should have seen it coming! They are futility personified! Always inventing new ways to fail!
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what a fall for RGIII... really unreal
Truly, truly insane.
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(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=http://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/files/2014/11/DeSeanIG2.jpg&w=1484)
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?Just from Robert?s perspective ? you take everybody else out of the picture ? Robert had some fundamental flaws. He did,? Gruden said Monday afternoon. ?His footwork was below average. He took three-step drops when he should have taken five. He took a one-step drop when he should have taken three on a couple of occasions. That can?t happen. He stepped up when he didn?t have to step up, stepped into pressure, he read the wrong side of the field a couple of times. So, from his basic performance just critiquing Robert, it was not even close to being good enough to what we expect from that quarterback position.?
Ouch
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They're getting ready to dump him.....of course they do it in a typically non classy way and shoot themselves in the foot by making sure to minimize any value he might have if he were to be traded...
I think this is probably about Gruden wanting to get rid of him and making his case publicly to Snyder (and putting on the pressure on Snyder)
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Gruden is about as brutally honest as can be. I feel like that's stuff you talk to your player about and work on it. Not put it out there. Maybe he just needs help with dealing with the media. Gruden adds as much fuel to the flames as the players speaking. This is a dumpster fire.
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Gruden is about as brutally honest as can be. I feel like that's stuff you talk to your player about and work on it. Not put it out there. Maybe he just needs help with dealing with the media. Gruden adds as much fuel to the flames as the players speaking. This is a dumpster fire.
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Piling on...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/18/steve-young-coaches-have-told-me-rg3-doesnt-put-in-the-time/
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Wednesday and not a single mention of the 49ers game on Sunday. This team!
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I found five QBs who fit the profile of Griffin: first-time starting QBs with extremely high efficiency scores who suddenly and precipitously fell off over the span of just two years:
Steve Beuerlein, 1999. Elvis Grbac, 2000. Jay Fiedler, 2001. Tommy Maddox, 2002. Derek Anderson, 2007. David Garrard, 2007.
Do you see another passer on that list who you would say was a career starter in the NFL, or even someone who you would say delivered on the kind of promise that RG3 once showed in abundance?
Sadly, no. None of the comparable QBs ever reached even the top 20 in the league ever again; most were out of the league completely within four years. Heck, Elvis Grbac went from +61.08 to -55.12 NEP in just one year!
To take it even further, when RG3 was done with his rookie season, his statistical comparables included Michael Vick, Cam Newton, and Rich Gannon - all long-time starters in the league, each with multiple top-10 seasons. Now? His comparables are Tony Banks, a washed up Chris Chandler, Tim Hasselbeck, and Chad Henne.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nik-bonaddio/rg3-its-over_b_6179848.html
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Wednesday and not a single mention of the 49ers game on Sunday. This team!
?We?re focused on San Francisco,? Griffin said, referencing Washington?s upcoming game at the 49ers (6-4) on Sunday.
Griffin uttered the phrase ?focused on San Francisco? or ?focusing on San Francisco? nine times and used the word ?focus? 18 times during a seven-and-a-half-minute news conference that consisted of 24 questions.
There. Happy now?
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Wednesday and not a single mention of the 49ers game on Sunday. This team!
?We?re focused on San Francisco,? Griffin said, referencing Washington?s upcoming game at the 49ers (6-4) on Sunday.
Griffin uttered the phrase ?focused on San Francisco? or ?focusing on San Francisco? nine times and used the word ?focus? 18 times during a seven-and-a-half-minute news conference that consisted of 24 questions.
There. Happy now?
and Gruden said he made a mistake calling out RGIII
all is well in Team from Lanodoverland at least until the next game....
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Wednesday and not a single mention of the 49ers game on Sunday. This team!
?We?re focused on San Francisco,? Griffin said, referencing Washington?s upcoming game at the 49ers (6-4) on Sunday.
Griffin uttered the phrase ?focused on San Francisco? or ?focusing on San Francisco? nine times and used the word ?focus? 18 times during a seven-and-a-half-minute news conference that consisted of 24 questions.
There. Happy now?
and Gruden said he made a mistake calling out RGIII
all is well in Team from Lanodoverland at least until the next game....
We'll see at 7:30pm this Sunday...
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(http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/WashingtonPost/Content/Blogs/dc-sports-bog/StandingArt/mcnabbrgiii0812a.JPG?uuid=MSHlNOsfEeGd3DQNXvsenA)
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smh
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RGIII Benched (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/11/25/robert-griffin-iii-benched-colt-mccoy-to-start-against-colts/)
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Sincerely thought he would get the rest of the year and if not at least a shot in this game before being benched. Dang. I guess that's it for old Bobby Griff. Poor millionaire.
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Who in the hell started this thread? How can there be a blank space where the name should be. Why am I this upset about that?
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15 Worst Sports Owners:
#1: Daniel Snyder (http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/lists/the-15-worst-owners-in-sports-20141125/daniel-snyder-washington-redskins-20141121)
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15 Worst Sports Owners:
#1: Daniel Snyder (http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/lists/the-15-worst-owners-in-sports-20141125/daniel-snyder-washington-redskins-20141121)
Not disagreeing with #1, but the Ford family -- maybe they're not counting them as a collective and since WCF just died they don't feel the son has had a long enough tenure to make the list? -- and Ted Leonsis not making the list is pretty LOL-worthy.
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15 Worst Sports Owners:
#1: Daniel Snyder (http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/lists/the-15-worst-owners-in-sports-20141125/daniel-snyder-washington-redskins-20141121)
Not disagreeing with #1, but the Ford family -- maybe they're not counting them as a collective and since WCF just died they don't feel the son has had a long enough tenure to make the list? -- and Ted Leonsis not making the list is pretty LOL-worthy.
Well, since he bought the Wizards they have drafted pretty well and gone to the playoffs and are now one of the top teams in their conference. And the Caps have won, what, 6 or 7 division titles in the past 8 years or so? Granted, it's not all on Leonsis. But there isn't much beyond his teams not being able to get over the playoff hump to tarnish him.... At the end of the day, isn't it about winning? His teams seem to do that a lot. Until last year with the Caps...
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Anything good that's happened for the Caps was the result of being terrible and getting a lucky pingpong ball. His rep, pre-Ovechkin, was that he was a terrible spendthrift who thought one big name player and 21 AHL guys was a strategy. He also hit a fan and got suspended for it, iirc.
I also don't exactly think the Wizards have been a bastion of greatness either.
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The Wizards haven't, but they have turned around since he bought the team. Jury is still out.
The Caps have a solid team. They have at least 3 dudes any team would trade for immediately. Same goes for the Wizards. I just think Caps is more about coaching than anything else. I like the young guys they're putting out on the ice.
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He also hit a fan
Have you been to a professional sporting event lately? A large number of attendees deserve to be punched.
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He also hit a fan
Have you been to a professional sporting event lately? A large number of attendees deserve to be punched.
I'll give you that.
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Through three preseason games and five starts in the regular season, Gruden has seen enough to realize that Griffin is at best a long-term project as a pocket passer. Griffin was too deliberate reading defenses, displayed poor footwork and an alarming lack of pocket presence for a signal-caller in his third NFL season.
Also, Gruden?s assessment goes deeper than Griffin?s play. He has major concerns about Griffin?s decision making off the field, which has come to light through conversations with team officials at Redskins Park.
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Considering Gruden?s firm stance, though, trading Griffin is the logical option. And if Snyder and Allen drag their feet or tell Gruden he must give Griffin one more chance, then Gruden may have to come up with an exit strategy even faster than Mike Shanahan did.
Realizing he faces a formidable challenge, Gruden is eager to roll up his sleeves. To help Gruden get the job done, Snyder and Allen should remove the albatross around his neck.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/for-jay-gruden-the-best-place-for-robert-griffin-iii-is-elsewhere/2014/12/03/911e0cde-7a69-11e4-9a27-6fdbc612bff8_story.html
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Insane.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Awmr7N1e8#t=32
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Anything good that's happened for the Caps was the result of being terrible and getting a lucky pingpong ball.
Isn't that how a lot of NBA teams became great? Like the Spurs for instance?
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Spurs? I'm confused...
You're not comparing any DC team to the best run and managed team in the United States, are you?
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/20140616/5053323/manu-ginobili-dunk-and-duncan-slap-o.gif) (http://gifsoup.com/view/5053323/manu-ginobili-dunk-and-duncan-slap.html) (http://gifsoup.com)
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Funny.
Jeff Fisher sends out players acquired in RG3 trade for coin toss (http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2292491-rams-jeff-fisher-sends-players-traded-for-robert-griffin-iii-out-for-coin-toss?)
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Funny.
Jeff Fisher sends out players acquired in RG3 trade for coin toss (http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2292491-rams-jeff-fisher-sends-players-traded-for-robert-griffin-iii-out-for-coin-toss?)
This is solid gold. Beautiful move.
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That's awesome.
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Funny.
Jeff Fisher sends out players acquired in RG3 trade for coin toss (http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2292491-rams-jeff-fisher-sends-players-traded-for-robert-griffin-iii-out-for-coin-toss?)
This and Gregg Williams blitzing while being up 24, on a Redskins 3rd and 20 I believe. Pretty much yesterday was a big fat middle finger to the entire organization.
Then London Fletcher calls out Jim Haslett at being a shitty human being overall.
This team will just not go away.
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I wonder if Jay Gruden is beginning to worry he might be fired....
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I wonder if Jay Gruden is beginning to worry he might be fired....
At this point he may be hoping it happens.
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I wonder if Jay Gruden is beginning to worry he might be fired....
He sure doesn't seem to be acting like he's worried about that. He seems to be grabbing his crotch at management/ownership. I'm rooting for him, honestly. Someone needs to change the culture.
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I wonder if Jay Gruden is beginning to worry he might be fired....
He sure doesn't seem to be acting like he's worried about that. He seems to be grabbing his crotch at management/ownership. I'm rooting for him, honestly. Someone needs to change the culture.
You think the skins Illuminati is going to take a cue from a rookie head coach? No freaking chance.
I hope they fire him. Not because I don't like him, but he'll never succeed. I just want to witness a new search for a head coach. If they fire him now they will be totally out of options. No coach wants to come into that snake pit. I wonder what the vegas odds are that Gruden lasts the season. At this point I'm sure he wishes he could quit, but he knows it will devalue him. But what's worse......that or continuing to be associated with this flaming pile of shit?
I love watching this team suffer and flounder. They are dead to me. Enjoy the next 35 years or so!
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Team Official says Gruden could be "one and done." (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/dispute-over-redskins-robert-griffin-iii-could-lead-to-showdown-between-jay-gruden-bruce-allen/2014/12/06/a2b622f0-7d67-11e4-9a27-6fdbc612bff8_story.html)
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I wonder if Jay Gruden is beginning to worry he might be fired....
He sure doesn't seem to be acting like he's worried about that. He seems to be grabbing his crotch at management/ownership. I'm rooting for him, honestly. Someone needs to change the culture.
You think the skins Illuminati is going to take a cue from a rookie head coach? No freaking chance.
I hope they fire him. Not because I don't like him, but he'll never succeed. I just want to witness a new search for a head coach. If they fire him now they will be totally out of options. No coach wants to come into that snake pit. I wonder what the vegas odds are that Gruden lasts the season. At this point I'm sure he wishes he could quit, but he knows it will devalue him. But what's worse......that or continuing to be associated with this flaming pile of shit?
I love watching this team suffer and flounder. They are dead to me. Enjoy the next 35 years or so!
I heard yesterday he had gotten an offer from a college... Cripes I can't remember which one it was though...
EDIT: Also, I think Gruden knows that they will be out of options, maybe that's why he's being a little more brazen than a usual first year head coach. At this point I'm not sure his reputation has anything to lose. With all the leaks that come out of that front office and locker room.... It's ridiculous.
Also, RG3 punts a ball to himself for 40 minutes after practice: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2293254-robert-griffin-iii-punting-footballs-for-40-minutes-is-a-sad-inexplicable-story
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I heard yesterday he had gotten an offer from a college... Cripes I can't remember which one it was though...
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I heard yesterday he had gotten an offer from a college... Cripes I can't remember which one it was though...
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Michigan coaching search: U-M reaches out to Jay Gruden's representatives, according to RealGM report (http://www.maizenbrew.com/2014/12/8/7354941/michigan-coaching-search-michigan-jay-gruden)
Jay Gruden Talked to Michigan About Head Coach Opening (http://www.hogshaven.com/2014/12/8/7355461/rumor-jay-gruden-talked-to-michigan-about-head-coach-opening)
Michigan Targeting Jay Gruden As Next Head Coach? (http://fansided.com/2014/12/08/michigan-targeting-jay-gruden-next-head-coach/)
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*starts drinking*
*cocks gun*
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His contract is 20 million guaranteed over 5 years. He'll just wait for them to fire him. He's crazy if he walks.
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All Gruden has to do is refuse to play RGIII. Bruce Allen basically bet his whole career on Griffin by trading all those picks and convincing Snyder to go along with it. So Allen is way too invested to allow benching or trading Griffin and Snyder will be forced to choose whether to fire Allen or Gruden. Either way, Gruden wins.
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All Gruden has to do is refuse to play RGIII. Bruce Allen basically bet his whole career on Griffin by trading all those picks and convincing Snyder to go along with it. So Allen is way too invested to allow benching or trading Griffin and Snyder will be forced to choose whether to fire Allen or Gruden. Either way, Gruden wins.
The awesome thing is that Bruce Allen can't lose either....because if Snyder fires him that is him admitting he made a bad move. And he won't do that. Allen has at least 3 more years of rope.
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It's actually incredible...the way this team steamrolls towards an epic 4 alarm meltdown EVERY season. When you think it can't get and worse it does. Re-defining what it means to plummet the depths of humiliation and futility.
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It's actually incredible...the way this team steamrolls towards an epic 4 alarm meltdown EVERY season. When you think it can't get and worse it does. Re-defining what it means to plummet the depths of humiliation and futility.
Literally inventing new ways to suck and be a laughing stock.
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I dont think Jay Gruden should get a pass because its the team from Landover..
I mean he doesn't seem to have the answers no matter who is the quaterback!
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I dont think Jay Gruden should get a pass because its the team from Landover..
I mean he doesn't seem to have the answers no matter who is the quaterback!
Don't you get it yet?
It doesn't matter who the coach is....this is a trickle down situation. Shit rolls down hill. Capish?
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I dont think Jay Gruden should get a pass because its the team from Landover..
I mean he doesn't seem to have the answers no matter who is the quaterback!
With a starter with no poise in the pocket and 2 backups.
And an insanely porous defense to boot.
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If they changed the name . . . The curse will be over. Why don't they get that? Native American's hate is forever.
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lolskins
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/12/redskins-players-are-fighting-each-other-in-practice-now
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I dont think Jay Gruden should get a pass because its the team from Landover..
I mean he doesn't seem to have the answers no matter who is the quaterback!
With a starter with no poise in the pocket and 2 backups.
And an insanely porous defense to boot.
Then it was his job to identify these issues before the season, no?
I don't recall hearing him say "We're going to suck this year... RGIII blows and we have an insane porous defense.."
Or that the offensive line is inexistent
Somehow, I don't see Bellichik sucking week after week.. he makes, you know, adjustments? Finds players...changes things around....
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I dont think Jay Gruden should get a pass because its the team from Landover..
I mean he doesn't seem to have the answers no matter who is the quaterback!
With a starter with no poise in the pocket and 2 backups.
And an insanely porous defense to boot.
Then it was his job to identify these issues before the season, no?
I don't recall hearing him say "We're going to suck this year... RGIII blows and we have an insane porous defense.."
Or that the offensive line is inexistent
Somehow, I don't see Bellichik sucking week after week.. he makes, you know, adjustments? Finds players...changes things around....
Wait, so you honestly think that Gruden, before he had ever coached an NFL game, would have announced to the media that the team sucked and Griffin wasn't ready? That seems unrealistic.
And Gruden may have identified the problems, but what is he supposed to do - it's Allen's job to pick the players (even though he has no personnel background).
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preposterous... are we to think that Gruden can do nothing with playcalling? had no say in what players made the team or practice squad? can't tell Bruce Allen "Hey there is this guy who just go released by such and such that might be able to help..."
To say Gruden bears no responsibility is ludicrous..he is the head coach..
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Somehow, I don't see Bellichik sucking week after week.. he makes, you know, adjustments? Finds players...changes things around....
How did Hoodie do in his first job with Cleveland?
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Somehow, I don't see Bellichik sucking week after week.. he makes, you know, adjustments? Finds players...changes things around....
How did Hoodie do in his first job with Cleveland?
I'm going with the Hoodie of the past 10 or so years... you know, the one I think should be emulated.......the one who makes adjustments....finds new players seemingly every other week...that one...
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Somehow, I don't see Bellichik sucking week after week.. he makes, you know, adjustments? Finds players...changes things around....
How did Hoodie do in his first job with Cleveland?
I'm going with the Hoodie of the past 10 or so years... you know, the one I think should be emulated.......the one who makes adjustments....finds new players seemingly every other week...that one...
And so, to understand: you think he learned how to do that in the few years between his Cleveland and New England gigs?
There is only so much any coach can do. Football Jesus cannot win a Super Bowl with a crappy QB and virtually no defensive talent.
I'm not predisposed to think Gruden is an elite coaching talent but he's also definitely not the biggest (or second or third biggest) problem in Landover.
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preposterous... are we to think that Gruden can do nothing with playcalling? had no say in what players made the team or practice squad? can't tell Bruce Allen "Hey there is this guy who just go released by such and such that might be able to help..."
To say Gruden bears no responsibility is ludicrous..he is the head coach..
Who said he had no responsibility? I just think the blame lies mostly with Snyder.
If your point is just that Belichik is a better coach than Gruden... well, no shit.
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how do you know the QB sucks or the defense sucks?
but lets assume they "suck"..hopeless..nobody could do better with them
why would you go into the season with a QB that sucks and a defense that sucks?
Or did you (Gruden) think they were better than they are? Why did you so underestimate your talent?
personally I think some of these results come from a combination of bad coaching and a team that has quit
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preposterous... are we to think that Gruden can do nothing with playcalling? had no say in what players made the team or practice squad? can't tell Bruce Allen "Hey there is this guy who just go released by such and such that might be able to help..."
To say Gruden bears no responsibility is ludicrous..he is the head coach..
Who said he had no responsibility? I just think the blame lies mostly with Snyder.
If your point is just that Belichik is a better coach than Gruden... well, no shit.
why Snyder? Because he picked the wrong coach?
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how do you know the QB sucks or the defense sucks?
but lets assume they "suck"..hopeless..nobody could do better with them
why would you go into the season with a QB that sucks and a defense that sucks?
Or did you (Gruden) think they were better than they are? Why did you so underestimate your talent?
personally I think some of these results come from a combination of bad coaching and a team that has quit
For me, it's Occam's razor. I find the prospect their is little talent on that team far higher than the prospect the last 4-5 landover coaches have all been uniformly so terrible they are taking a potential 11-win squad and getting them to, like, 4 wins annually. One coach is that terrible? Totally reasonable. Four or five in a row? Way less likely.
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I thought the team looked fairly good on paper when the season started... am i missing something? didn't they add ryan clark (i think that is his name)...
were the preseason forecasts that they would be this bad and that they had no talent?
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They gave up three first round picks (and a second) to take a gamble on one player. That road has been trod before (see Walker, Herschel).
And comparing a first-time NFL coach with mid-career Belichick isn't really an even playing field. And Gruden did express reservations about Griffin before and during the pre-season. But his two bosses have bet the farm on Griffin, so yeah, Gruden's hands were actually tied on this.
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They gave up three first round picks (and a second) to take a gamble on one player. That road has been trod before (see Walker, Herschel).
And comparing a first-time NFL coach with mid-career Belichick isn't really an even playing field. And Gruden did express reservations about Griffin before and during the pre-season. But his two bosses have bet the farm on Griffin, so yeah, Gruden's hands were actually tied on this.
but that was years ago...
i am not saying they made a wise choice in trading all those picks but i don't recall anyone saying the team would be this bad before the season started... also, note that griffin and mccoy are both getting sacked like 6 times a game so i don't know that you can blame them for that... seems to me the offensive line is woeful...
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People, Hutch. You've got to understand this isn't a problem with the coach or the qb or the o line. This is an institutional sickness so deep and so ingrained that fixing one or two of the obvious problems will not solve this mess. Sure a few band aids here and there might patch things up for a minute or two. But remember, even in RGIII's rookie year, even after more success than anyone could have reasonably hoped for, the season ended with a wild out of control outhouse fire and everyone sitting around it pouring gasoline on the flames. EVERYONE.
I used to think that eventually this team would hit bottom and that then they could finally start the long climb back up. But now I know. There is no bottom for this team. No level of failure or humiliation is out of reach for them.
Unless he has some sort of improbably profound awaking, this team will be a loser as long as Daniel Snyder owns it. Sure you may have the occasional fluke ala 2012, but for the most part this team is done every year before the season even starts.
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I dont think Jay Gruden should get a pass because its the team from Landover..
I mean he doesn't seem to have the answers no matter who is the quaterback!
With a starter with no poise in the pocket and 2 backups.
And an insanely porous defense to boot.
Then it was his job to identify these issues before the season, no?
I don't recall hearing him say "We're going to suck this year... RGIII blows and we have an insane porous defense.."
Or that the offensive line is inexistent
Somehow, I don't see Bellichik sucking week after week.. he makes, you know, adjustments? Finds players...changes things around....
Oh and their depth stinks. They have a ton of injuries too. Not to mention their huge left tackle Trent Williams is playing on a bum ankle and is not playing as himself.
Also, it's his first year and he inherited a mess. Just like Shannahan. At least Shannahan turned it around....once. I'm more willing to give Gruden another couple of seasons.... I guess that depends on how good next season is.....
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I'm dying over with laughter
Check out @DanSnyderCares's Tweet: https://twitter.com/DanSnyderCares/status/543079057584574465?s=09
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Gruden Names McCoy the Starter for Sunday (http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/gruden-colt-mccoy-will-start-vs-giants-if-cleared-doctor?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo)
I think we can go ahead and start the pool on whether it's Griffin or Gruden who won't be in Landover next year.
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My money is on Griff being gone.
Should have gotten a Ryan Kerrigan jersey... damn it...
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http://grantland.com/the-triangle/daniel-snyder-washington-redskins/
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Gruden Names McCoy the Starter for Sunday (http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/gruden-colt-mccoy-will-start-vs-giants-if-cleared-doctor?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo)
I think we can go ahead and start the pool on whether it's Griffin or Gruden who won't be in Landover next year.
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/update/24892784/report-redskins-tell-jay-gruden-hell-return-for-2015
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My prediction is....
Gruden stays
Griffin stays
Allen stays
All present and accounted for for 2014 redux. The same shit show all over again. It's going to be epic.
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Gruden will have an off season to clean shop though. I bet he brings in another quarterback. Cousins or McCoy won't be here. Apparently he loves McCoy though... Brought him into DC. So we'll see how it goes. I love/loved RG3, but I'm team Gruden. This guy has balls of big steel.
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I thought they were getting relegated and either Oregon or 'Bama were being moved to the NFL?
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Demarco Murray and Dez Bryant both see their contracts expire at the end of the season. Cowboys can only Franchise Tag one. Which one does Dan Snyder overpay for next season?
Or does Danny go for Ndamukong Suh?
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Or does Danny go for Ndamukong Suh?
Suh is going to one of the NYC teams, I'd wager fairly confidently.
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totally off topic real quick, because i don't get to watch football . . . who are the killer teams this year?
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totally off topic real quick, because i don't get to watch football . . . who are the killer teams this year?
Green Bay and Seattle in the NFC. Arizona are good but have lost their top 2 quarterbacks. New England and Denver in the AFC with Pittsburg looming.
Basically the same usual candidates.
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Demarco Murray and Dez Bryant both see their contracts expire at the end of the season. Cowboys can only Franchise Tag one. Which one does Dan Snyder overpay for next season?
Or does Danny go for Ndamukong Suh?
Seeing as how they have Alf, Helu Jr AND this Silas Red kid, I don't see them adding a big name RB.
With their receiving corps being DJax, Garcon, AND Andre Roberts, I don't see them making a big splash with that receiver. They should focus on O line and QB.
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Demarco Murray and Dez Bryant both see their contracts expire at the end of the season. Cowboys can only Franchise Tag one. Which one does Dan Snyder overpay for next season?
Or does Danny go for Ndamukong Suh?
Seeing as how they have Alf, Helu Jr AND this Silas Red kid, I don't see them adding a big name RB.
With their receiving corps being DJax, Garcon, AND Andre Roberts, I don't see them making a big splash with that receiver. They should focus on O line and QB.
You are making the misguided assumption that this is a team that does rational things.
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They shouldn't have even signed Jackson! I don't think they'll do that 2 years in a row. Plus Leonard Hankerson being on the mend and their plans with Ryan Clark. I feel like they have depth at WR...
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Deion Sanders, Albert Haynesworth, Jeff George, and Adam Archuletta.
I'm just sayin'
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In that vein:
Michael Vick says playing for Redskins would be a ?dream come true?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/12/18/michael-vick-says-playing-for-redskins-would-be-a-dream-come-true/
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Jay Gruden names RG III starting QB
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12343308/robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-starting-quarterback-says-jay-gruden
Robert Griffin III ?No. 1 Guy? At Quarterback In 2015
http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Robert-Griffin-III-%E2%80%9CNo-1-Guy%E2%80%9D-At-Quarterback-In-2015/db112c6e-682e-47ea-8d0c-72d1da3e097b
yeay, another year of the same!
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Jay Gruden names RG III starting QB
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12343308/robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-starting-quarterback-says-jay-gruden
Robert Griffin III ?No. 1 Guy? At Quarterback In 2015
http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Robert-Griffin-III-%E2%80%9CNo-1-Guy%E2%80%9D-At-Quarterback-In-2015/db112c6e-682e-47ea-8d0c-72d1da3e097b
yeay, another year of the same!
Wrong thread, bro: http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=22097.0
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Man. It's so hard for me to care about football. Caps are rolling, Zards are in the playoff hunt, spring training starts today!!
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Washington Redskins: Bad at Football, Worse at Spelling (http://www.wsj.com/articles/washington-redskins-bad-at-football-worse-at-spelling-1430252386)
Study shows that Redskins fans get a failing grade for grammar
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^^ Yeah, lets go Lions! We're #1 at something for once! :D
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Washington Redskins: Bad at Football, Worse at Spelling (http://www.wsj.com/articles/washington-redskins-bad-at-football-worse-at-spelling-1430252386)
Study shows that Redskins fans get a failing grade for grammar
I'll go ahead and blame all of the fans from Maryland.
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Washington Redskins: Bad at Football, Worse at Spelling (http://www.wsj.com/articles/washington-redskins-bad-at-football-worse-at-spelling-1430252386)
Study shows that Redskins fans get a failing grade for grammar
I'll go ahead and blame all of the fans from Maryland.
Redskins fans spelling mistakes per 100 words: 16.5
Ravens: 7.3
Sorry. It's all on VA.
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^ BOOM!!!
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Washington Redskins: Bad at Football, Worse at Spelling (http://www.wsj.com/articles/washington-redskins-bad-at-football-worse-at-spelling-1430252386)
Study shows that Redskins fans get a failing grade for grammar
I'll go ahead and blame all of the fans from Maryland.
Redskins fans spelling mistakes per 100 words: 16.5
Ravens: 7.3
Sorry. It's all on VA.
Still going to go ahead and blame Maryland.
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Washington Redskins: Bad at Football, Worse at Spelling (http://www.wsj.com/articles/washington-redskins-bad-at-football-worse-at-spelling-1430252386)
Study shows that Redskins fans get a failing grade for grammar
I'll go ahead and blame all of the fans from Maryland.
Redskins fans spelling mistakes per 100 words: 16.5
Ravens: 7.3
Sorry. It's all on VA.
Still going to go ahead and blame Maryland.
Maryland? I always thought it was Murland. :)
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Nobody has considered the obvious culprit?
D.C.
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Nearly four months after a federal judge ordered the cancellation of the Washington Redskins? federal trademark registrations for disparaging Native Americans, the National Football League team is appealing with a provocative tactic: listing the names of porn, clothing and beer companies that use offensive language, but nonetheless have the support of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.
?By way of example only, the following marks are registered today: Take Yo Panties Off clothing; Dangerous Negro shirts . . . Midget-Man condoms and inflatable sex dolls,? the Redskins lawyers wrote in their opening brief filed Friday with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, based in Richmond. The lawyers later added a footnote with 31 more trademark registrations, many of them unprintable in The Washington Post. On the list: ?Party With Sluts . . . Redneck Army apparel . . . Booty Call sex aids . . . Dumb Blonde hair products.?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/take-yo-panties-off-defense-redskins-cite-other-protected-products-in-trademark-appeal/2015/11/03/d6501692-81b8-11e5-8ba6-cec48b74b2a7_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_redskins-945am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
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Snyder pissboy: Sir, perhaps we should fight the trademark case by aligning ourselves with certain adult-oriented companies that are similarly courageous in their fight for brand sanctity?
Snyder: Yeah, we should have allies in this! What about Midget Man condoms? Or Crippled Midget Bitch lovedolls? And someone should give Small-Penis-Big-Life cockrings a call too.
Snyder pissboy: Perhaps we could also try African Man Jumbo Condoms or the Piledrive Fill'er'upper?
Snyder: You're fired.
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don't they know, that if they change the name, the curse will be lifted, they will win the super bowl, they will win all the super bowls, and all the players will date models, and all the district will be rich and carefree dancing in the streets. dynasty baby . . . Alexis Carrington dynasty, if they just change the name. they can make a huge contest out the name change and give all the money to charity. win win for everyone. bike lanes for everyone.
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That is so absurd hahahaha
Just win, baby!!
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Shocking Footage Shows Stabbing At Cowboys-Redskins Game [VIDEO]
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/08/shocking-footage-shows-stabbing-at-cowboys-redskins-game-video/
^ video is NSFW (language)
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That's my friends video hahhaa he posted it on Facebook right after the game. Pure insanity.
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wow, friend of internet royalty, in the house.
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He posted that the video has over a million views on YouTube. Good for him? Lol. Makes fans of the Redskins and Cowboys look great... yeesh.
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All right, let's get hyped right now. Ok, maybe hyped is a little extreme. How about excited? Anticipatory? Apprehensive? Terrified? Horny?
Green Bay has looked terrible for the past month. Washington has looked very good. I think Wash has a great chance of beating the Packers. I don't think the NFL playoffs have been this up-in-the-air in years.
Sidebar: This AMA with Fred Smoot is legitimately laugh out loud funny: https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/3zwain/fred_smoot_again_ukn0thing_told_me_i_should_do/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/3zwain/fred_smoot_again_ukn0thing_told_me_i_should_do/)
Here are some highlights:
Can we please stop asking about the sex boat? That shit was like 10 years ago and it wasn't even that cool. Stay off of boats kids.
Thoughts on the HGH situation with Peyton Manning? Most guys doing it? Is it useful in a sexboat situation?
i used to rub hgh on my summer sausage and run through the okra patch in Minnesota.
dan snyder quietly the best owner of all time.
best owner of all time? Smoot - what you smoking?
I think they call this shit girl scout cookies.
How did you know 9 wins? HOW DID YOU KNOW?!?!?!
Btw. Your superbowl picks?
bruh i was in the league for 10 years. I'm half these dudes daddy. I know my babies. i knew kirk was gonna kirk out.
I still like Pats Panthers but my skins are on the come up
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relaxer hyping football... now i've seen it all. HTTR!!!
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I'm a HUGE football fan, Sweetcell. I enjoy a wide variety of things such as whiskey, asian pop produced by teenagers, football, biking, hip-hop, the reverse cowgirl, politics, and weed. You might even say that, at best, I'm a renaissance man and at worst a rich tapestry.
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I played football when i was a kid, but i wouldn't call myself a fan now. Though I likely won't be watching the game, i'll be cheering for the publically owned team to crush the team with the racially insensitive nickname.
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the reverse cowgirl
It's making a comeback.
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I'm excited, but apprehensive. I mean, how excited CAN you get? The playoffs are all or nothing. Skins didn't have a losing season, weren't a .500 team, and made the playoffs. Cheering wise, it's been a decent year. IF we make it into the conference championship then I think all bets are off.
Think we have a good chance against the Packers. Aaron Rodgers is still great and I am terrified of what he can do against our defense, but our D has stepped up big when it needs to, so we'll see. I'll be cheering and going crazy, but I don't see us getting much farther than this week or next. If only we could crack that run game egg...
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the reverse cowgirl
It's making a comeback.
It was out of style for a time?
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the reverse cowgirl
It's making a comeback.
It was out of style for a time?
Yes, there was a while there where they wanted to see your face. It was awkward.
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Guess it depends on the face.
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(http://www.repsolforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30868&d=1328801365)
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sigh
The atmosphere was so electric before the game and right up until about mid-way through the 3rd quarter. Then it was like the whole stadium developed a slow leak and just deflated.
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i can't imagine what fedex was like after that opening safety. the place must have been electric.
I'm a HUGE football fan, Sweetcell.
somehow i missed that. you never struck me as the footbal type... Relaxer, you are a multi-layered mystery.
the reverse cowgirl
since we don't have the 'skins to talk about anymore: are there any positions you don't like?
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I don't like this position very much
(http://cdn.drprem.com/health/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2014/07/parents-sleeping-with-their-newborn-_5.png)
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Bob Griffin's goodbye note:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYcxkfiWkAAbX1O.jpg)
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Gotta love those idiots who insult everybody and puff themselves up in order to communicate a message of "be a kind, humble person"
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Bob Griffin's goodbye note:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYcxkfiWkAAbX1O.jpg)
I agree, they need to change the name.
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Bob Griffin's goodbye note:
is that for reals?
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Bob Griffin's goodbye note:
is that for reals?
Deadspin is reporting its was the only thing left in his locker.
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There was one other thing:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2016/01/11/robert-griffin-iii-cleans-out-his-locker-likely-for-a-final-time-at-redskins-park/?tid=pm_sports_pop_b
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Sad. I would have felt bad for the guy, after seeing him clean out his locker, if he hadn't left that stupid fucking note. He as well have just walked out with a smug smile with his nose turned up.
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I think, he is still upset, that people don't respect his real name, and forced this whole rg111 down his throat.
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I think, he is still upset, that people don't respect his real name, and forced this whole rg111 down his throat.
Dude, he's marketed the crap out of the RGIII moniker.
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he had to . . . the nfl forced him to. the nfl forces you to be who you aren't and then make money off that fake self. I think, I read that, on twitter.
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he had to . . . the nfl forced him to. the nfl forces you to be who you aren't and then make money off that fake self. I think, I read that, on twitter.
you're thinking of the WWE.
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Same, difference.
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true dat.
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If I'm the Rams, instead of letting the Washington Football Team cut RG3, I would offer a 5th round draft pick or something just to complete the circle.
We already know Fisher has the sense of humor to do something like this:
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/files/2014/12/fishertroll1214a.jpg)
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If I'm the Rams, instead of letting the Washington Football Team cut RG3, I would offer a 5th round draft pick or something just to complete the circle.
Then leak that you've done it.
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is robert, still a viable player? i thought he was pretty much a used up portion of what he used to be.
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http://wtop.com/supreme-court/2017/06/justices-say-government-cant-refuse-disparaging-trademarks/
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(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--U00y5MCu--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ytwckswrtaspcgete5vr.jpg)
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Kirk Cousins has so little faith in the Redskins that he rejected a mega deal that would have made him the second highest paid player in NFL history.
http://www.12up.com/posts/5278161-redskins-release-scathing-statement-about-kirk-cousins-contract-negotiations
I'm on Cousins side - It's not about the money. It's about whether he wants to spend his career with a horribly run organization.
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Thanks for this timely insight. Do you think Trump has any chance of beating Hillary?
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Hey, GGW, have you heard of this boat The Titanic? Do you think it's really unsinkable?
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Have you heard of this pretty fair kerfuffle happening in the colonies? It's crazy to think they might actually have a successful revolt, eh?
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Dang, it took awhile, but Julian made me laugh out loud.
I'll take Kirks side. No one should want to stay with the Redskins. I hope he breaks all the franchise records again, puts this town in his rearview mirror, wins a SB somewhere else AND the Redskins don't find a QB for years. Again. It's what the terrible fanbase deserves.
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Kirk Cousins' chance to do something useful with his life.
Kirk Cousins expected to sign with Minnesota Vikings (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/03/13/kirk-cousins-to-meet-with-minnesota-vikings/?utm_term=.1b61698c42fc)
Free agent quarterback Kirk Cousins is making arrangements to visit the Minnesota Vikings on Wednesday and Thursday and is expected to complete a three-year deal with them worth an estimated $84 million to $86 million, according to multiple people familiar with the deliberations.
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$84M guaranteed can be pretty useful
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Redskins Cheerleaders describe trip to Costa Rica that crossed the line (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/sports/redskins-cheerleaders-nfl.html)
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Gross
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Just saw a guy in Union Station wearing a Packers shirt and I laid it on thick.
"We handed you guys your cheesy asses yesterday. Now beat it back up to Trumpland, immediately."
Frightened, more like a mouse than a rabbit, he scurried onto the nearest train.
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Saw a ton of cheeseheads around dc yesterday...they all weigh 300 pounds
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Frightened, more like a mouse than a rabbit, he scurried onto the nearest train.
Well to be fair, he was an out of towner who was being accosted at a metro station by a person who looks like you, so . . .
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Just saw a guy in Union Station wearing a Packers shirt and I laid it on thick.
"We handed you guys your cheesy asses yesterday. Now beat it back up to Trumpland, immediately."
Frightened, more like a mouse than a rabbit, he scurried onto the nearest train.
So I'd like a show of hands on the veracity of this actually happening
although we are in a post-truth era
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So I'd like a show of hands on the veracity of this actually happening
although we are in a post-truth era
Yeah, totally fake
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Just saw a guy in Union Station wearing a Packers shirt and I laid it on thick.
"We handed you guys your cheesy asses yesterday. Now beat it back up to Trumpland, immediately."
Frightened, more like a mouse than a rabbit, he scurried onto the nearest train.
So I'd like a show of hands on the veracity of this actually happening
although we are in a post-truth era
Im withholding judgment until Space turns over his calendar for the date in question.
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have you guys forgotten about the classic Space move of posting random quotes he gets elsewhere, but not attributing them to the original authors? the playbook here is that folks get all up in arms, accuse space of being a horrible person, he shoots back that no one in their right mind would think it's him and of course this was cribbed, cue the laugh track. yeay.
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have you guys forgotten about the classic Space move of posting random quotes he gets elsewhere, but not attributing them to the original authors? the playbook here is that folks get all up in arms, accuse space of being a horrible person, he shoots back that no one in their right mind would think it's him and of course this was cribbed, cue the laugh track. yeay.
Could we get a SPOILER warning if you're going to reveal the ending? I had it TiVoed and was saving it.
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have you guys forgotten about the classic Space move of posting random quotes he gets elsewhere, but not attributing them to the original authors? the playbook here is that folks get all up in arms, accuse space of being a horrible person, he shoots back that no one in their right mind would think it's him and of course this was cribbed, cue the laugh track. yeay.
Come on, I know i work with numbers and formulas, but gosh, give me some credit for having a way with words.
And what's so wrong with verbally harassing a red state packers fan? Isn't that what being a football fan is all about, dudes?
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Come on, I know i work with numbers and formulas, but gosh, give me some credit for having a way with words.
you definitely have a way with words, but you have no record of using them to harass football fans (other than making fun of people for being football fans, and having their identities wrapped up in a football team).
And what's so wrong with verbally harassing a red state packers fan? Isn't that what being a football fan is all about, dudes?
it's totally what being a football fan is all about.
you're not a football fan. at least, you've spent years espousing non-football-fandom... have things changed?
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I'll admit, I was sort of putting myself in the shoes of a Washington Football Club fan.
If I had to be a fan of a football team, it would be the Packers, because they're publically owned. And because Aaron Rogers is so darned sexy.
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I'll admit, I was sort of putting myself in the shoes of a Washington Football Club fan.
If I had to be a fan of a football team, it would be the Packers, because they're publically owned. And because Aaron Rogers is so darned sexy.
...and here's where the story begins to fall apart.
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Yeah, skins got nuppin'
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Apparently, the Redskins are going to the Superbowl. Only 1 of their next 10 opponents has a winning record.
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I can't believe they are 5-2. The offense outside of Peterson is a complete mess. Alex Smith looks bad...but, hey..I'll take it.
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Will the Skins pick up Kareem Hunt? He would pair nicely with Reuben Foster. Rae Carruth could be picked up for a song too.
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They already have Adrian “I like to abuse my kid” Peterson
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with a record of 1-2, the Washington football team of Washington is in first place in the NFC East (https://www.espn.com/nfl/standings). lol. compare that to the NFC West...
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Ex-Washington cheerleaders shaken by lewd videos: ‘I don’t think they viewed us as people’ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/10/16/washington-cheerleaders-video-lawsuit/)
"Then-senior vice president Larry Michael told broadcasting staffers to produce the videos, according to two ex-employees, one of whom said the footage was to be assembled for team owner Daniel Snyder."
a real winner.
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Soooo....Bezos in?
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Is everyone here a Skins fan? Everyone except me, that is?
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No
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Is everyone here a Skins fan? Everyone except me, that is?
Definitely not. I’d suggest a plurality are not WFT fans.
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Is everyone here a Skins fan? Everyone except me, that is?
I enjoyed the British TV series, but the one MTV did was utter shite
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Damn. I don’t even know that reference.
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Not
Is everyone here a Skins fan? Everyone except me, that is?
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"not even a name change could keep these scamps out of trouble!" </anouncermanvoice>
Mystery surrounding raid on Washington team facility deepens as union says an active NFL player has spoken to the DEA (https://sports.yahoo.com/mystery-surrounding-raid-on-washington-team-facility-deepens-as-union-says-an-active-nfl-player-has-spoken-to-the-dea-212530489.html)
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could be moving to Virginia?!
https://www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/2021/12/20/washington-football-team-domed-stadium.html?
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Good. Get them the fuck out of Maryland.
could be moving to Virginia?!
https://www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/2021/12/20/washington-football-team-domed-stadium.html?
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Good. Get them the fuck out of Maryland.
could be moving to Virginia?!
https://www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/2021/12/20/washington-football-team-domed-stadium.html?
Nah, no takebacks. Fuck that.
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are mods ready to rename this thread on Feb 2?
Washington Football Team to reveal new name on February 2, won't be 'Wolves' or 'RedWolves' (https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/04/sport/washington-football-team-name-change-spt-intl/index.html)
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are mods ready to rename this thread on Feb 2?
Washington Football Team to reveal new name on February 2, won't be 'Wolves' or 'RedWolves' (https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/04/sport/washington-football-team-name-change-spt-intl/index.html)
It's gotta be the groundhogs.
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Though the winning move would be to call themselves the Washington Superbowl Champions.
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So are they waiting until 2/2 so they can get the merch ready?
I assume this is going to leak before then
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So are they waiting until 2/2 so they can get the merch ready?
I assume this is going to leak before then
Washington Groundhogs, to be announced on Groundhog Day.
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So are they waiting until 2/2 so they can get the merch ready?
I assume this is going to leak before then
Washington Groundhogs, to be announced on Groundhog Day.
or, the Washington Sweetcells (since it's my birthday)
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Y'all are going to be so stunned when its announced its the "Washington Americans Presented by Julian and LVMH," a first-of-its-kind branding coup in American sports.
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I hope they get Max Headroom to announce that their name is "The New Redskins"
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Did they rule out “Warriors”?
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Washington Blackies? Washington Chinks? Washington Kykes?
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Washington Blackies? Washington Chinks? Washington Kykes?
dang really going there...
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Washington Blackies? Washington Chinks? Washington Kykes?
You forgot to log in to your Space Freely account.
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They'll be the Snyders until he gets kicked out. Which isn't going to happen. Who knows what's in the closets of those guys.
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Washington Blackies? Washington Chinks? Washington Kykes?
You forgot to log in to your Space Freely account.
You forgot to log in to my account to make that joke.
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Washington Blackies? Washington Chinks? Washington Kykes?
You forgot to log in to your Space Freely account.
You forgot to log in to my account to make that joke.
I have it on good authority that you're not the creator of said joke.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FppliYMaUAEmS6y?format=jpg&name=large)
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Maybe the news didn’t make it to the hinterlands of Seattle but they changed their name a few years ago first to Washington Football Team and then Washington Commanders so I think we can stop the virtue signaling.
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Maybe the news didn’t make it to the hinterlands of Seattle but they changed their name a few years ago first to Washington Football Team and then Washington Commanders so I think we can stop the virtue signaling.
it's a funny picture that contains some social commentary. maybe you missed that?
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Its idiotic
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Caucasian is still ok, I think. Caucoriental is out of favor though