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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: you be betty on October 03, 2005, 11:17:00 pm
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for any Jews celebrating :)
my bro and i keep listening to Death Cab's "The New Year"
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Mosel Tov!
I'm not Jewish but would still like to extend my wishes to those who are.
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It's also the start of Ramadan, which for me means all the bars are closed tonight. :(
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Originally posted by you be betty:
for any Jews celebrating
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Originally posted by you be betty:
for any Jews celebrating :)
my bro and i keep listening to Death Cab's "The New Year"
You seem to allude to your Jewish-ness a lot on this bboard & elsewhere. Does it mean that you are a religiously devout person...a true believer in Yeshua, or Shiva, or whatever..? Are you spending lots of time praying daily?
You know, you don't hear the rest of saying things like, "My parents are typical Methodists"?
...Just wondering?
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I'm not Jewish but I respect your weird and strange Lord-impaling traditions. Except for those faggot hats, I will never respect that. Happy Maccabbes Day, or whatever!
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Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
It's also the start of Ramadan,
Well a Happy Kwanzaa to you, sir!
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By being "typical Methodists" I really mean to say that my people spend rather an inordinate ammount of their time busilly controlling the world pork-rind & mobile home industries.
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Originally posted by The Walrus:
You seem to allude to your Jewish-ness a lot on this bboard & elsewhere.
i surely do not want to speak for her, but many jews are "overtly jewish" because it's the only way they can maintain their identity (whether they identify as jewish on a national, ethnic, or religious basis)
jews who don't overtly identify themselves as such often just assimilate into mainstream culture, which is largely christian
it's interesting to go to israel and see an entire nation of jews ... many of them do not overtly identify themselves as religious / jewish because they simply don't have to ... the DEFAULT is judaism (the whole country shuts down from friday evening - saturday evening, holidays, etc), and there is no fear of losing their identity via assimilation
there is (generally) not much of a need for a WASP to overtly assert his/her ethnic/religious background because it's generally the default in this county
but again, i don't mean to speak for her at all, just pointing things out
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But you don't see the Hispanics, Native Americans, Asians,African-Americans, Buddhists, Agnostics, Muslims, etc. of the board aggressively asserting those facts...
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
But you don't see the Hispanics, Native Americans, Asians,African-Americans, Buddhists, Agnostics, Muslims, etc. of the board aggressively asserting those facts...
Perhaps not "on this board" but I saw an article a few weeks ago detailing the great number of Hispanic's refusing to learn English for fear of their culture being eroded.
Agnostics and atheists often try to heighten the difference between themselves and their religious neighbors.
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
But you don't see the Hispanics, Native Americans, Asians,African-Americans, Buddhists, Agnostics, Muslims, etc. of the board aggressively asserting those facts...
fair enough ... i was just speaking from experience about identity issues of american jews, i obviously can't speak for these other groups (well, maybe agnostics)
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Pushy athiests abound, but where are the assertive agnostics?
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i'm pretty sure that i've referred to myself as a nonchristian a few times on this board
my parents are typical catholics
jews like talking about being jews. i've always found it kinda charming. surprised that some people have never encountered this before
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i'm pretty sure that i've referred to myself as a nonchristian a few times on this board
my parents are typical catholics
jews like talking about being jews. i've always found it kinda charming. surprised that some people have never encountered this before
So are you a pushy Pittsbleurghian (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/41676) athiest?
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African-Americans do as well, just not on this board.
This African-American gentleman who was riding the bus with me and talking on his cell yesterday, kept saying nigger this and nigger that.
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
jews like talking about being jews. i've always found it kinda charming. surprised that some people have never encountered this before
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Originally posted by The Walrus:
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
i'm pretty sure that i've referred to myself as a nonchristian a few times on this board
my parents are typical catholics
jews like talking about being jews. i've always found it kinda charming. surprised that some people have never encountered this before
So are you a pushy Pittsbleurghian (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/41676) athiest? [/b]
i'm totally forwarding that article to all my friends back home. thanks
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Originally posted by The Walrus:
Originally posted by you be betty:
for any Jews celebrating :)
my bro and i keep listening to Death Cab's "The New Year"
You seem to allude to your Jewish-ness a lot on this bboard & elsewhere. Does it mean that you are a religiously devout person...a true believer in Yeshua, or Shiva, or whatever..? Are you spending lots of time praying daily?
You know, you don't hear the rest of saying things like, "My parents are typical Methodists"?
...Just wondering? [/b]
No, I'm not SUPER-JEWISH at all...in fact, I'm kind of slightly agnostic. But I'm still a Jew. And yes, Jews do love to talk about other Jews and them being Jews and etc. Plus, if you had my sense of humor, and my group of friends, you'd tell constant sarcastic Jewish jokes to top it off. That's just the way I am. I've got a couple of overtly Christian friends...it just seems to me in today's society, though, that anyone who isn't overt about their religion is Christian by default.
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I get the feeling that being Jewish is more of a culture than a religion.
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Originally posted by econo:
I get the feeling that being Jewish is more of a culture than a religion.
In a way yes, and in a way no. That's kind of the beauty in Judaism. I'm fairly agnostic at this point in my life, however, regardless of your beliefs in God or not; the Jewish community still welcomes you. You still participate in the holidays and are part of the community. I still choose to get confirmed. You can be Jewish and Buddhist, and they even coincide quite nicely. The people that tend to speak of the culture aspects of Judaism are always the ones that actually participate in them--which most Jews tend not to. So, when you hear about it, it's for a reason...
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Originally posted by econo:
I get the feeling that being Jewish is more of a culture than a religion.
people identify as "jewish" on mulitple levels ...
nationalist: zionist, supporter of the israeli state, a feeling that all jews belong to the same common nation (different from a state, of course)
ethnic: food, culture, etc ... many american jews are eastern european, have yiddish backgrounds
religious: uh, the bible and all that stuff
but the key is that you can self-identify as "jewish" without being religious at all
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Originally posted by econo:
I get the feeling that being Jewish is more of a culture than a religion.
<img src="http://wampa.net/roboto/zod.jpg" alt=" - " />
"Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia, activate the machine."
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I'm not sure what Zod has to do with this. You like posting pictures though, so have at it.
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Originally posted by econo:
I'm not sure what Zod has to do with this. You like posting pictures though, so have at it.
So how was Australia? Did you cut a slice?
<img src="http://www.weathergraphics.com/zod/qbar.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by The Walrus:
where are the assertive agnostics?
Here!
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Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Forum Members:
Originally posted by The Walrus:
where are the assertive agnostics?
Here! [/b]
...You call THAT assertive?
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HERE MOTHERFUCKER
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Yes, I cut an international slice, and when she moves back to DC later on this year, I'll cut a domestic one.
Originally posted by The Walrus:
So how was Australia? Did you cut a slice?
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Originally posted by econo:
Yes, I cut an international slice, and when she moves back to DC later on this year, I'll cut a domestic one.
Originally posted by The Walrus:
So how was Australia? Did you cut a slice?
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Did she give you an "around the world"?
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Sorry Dupek, all you're going to hear about my escapades in Australia is what I've previously mentioned.
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Speaking of racial issues, there was an article in the Express today entitled, "Changing Face of Baseball".
It basically lamented the fact that only 9% of baseball players were African-American, and several teams (Astros included) don't have a single African-American on the team. This represents a significant decline from past numbers.
Responding to this, Commissioner Bud Selig responded, "We know that we have work to do, we'll continue to intensify our efforts."
What I want to know is when is David Stern going to intensify the efforts to bring more white players into the NBA? After all, the number of white players in the NBA has decline since the 1960's. Does encouraging Eastern European players to join the NBA count?
What exactly could Selig do to intensify the efforts to bring more Blacks into MLB at the playing level, and from a moral/ethical standpoint, why should he?
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
people identify as "jewish" on mulitple levels ...
nationalist: zionist, supporter of the israeli state, a feeling that all jews belong to the same common nation (different from a state, of course)
ethnic: food, culture, etc ... many american jews are eastern european, have yiddish backgrounds
religious: uh, the bible and all that stuff
but the key is that you can self-identify as "jewish" without being religious at all
But what is meant by the phrase, "...typical Jewish parents"? I'm not altogether sure I savvy that...
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Originally posted by Ellis D. Fleischbach:
But what is meant by the phrase, "...typical Jewish parents"? I'm not altogether sure I savvy that...
well, the traditional stereotype of a jewish mother is domineering, neurotic over-involvement with their children, etc ... much like the traditional stereotype of a jewish teenage girl is a bratty and spoiled Jewish American Princess
like other minorities, jews often joke with each other about these stereotypes ... but, as you've learned from seinfeld, you can't convert just to make the jokes
any other questions re: the chosen people?
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
well, the traditional stereotype of a jewish mother is domineering, neurotic over-involvement with their children, etc ...
any other questions re: the chosen people?
Then this can have negative connotations, like in that Peter Sellers -bio movie? In other words, 'Jewish parents' can be a liability, as well as being an asset??? Or is it usually meant to be mildly disparaging? I had always thought it had something to do with chicken soup...
And what about Kyle's mother on South Park?
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Ton's of questions, BTW.