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Title: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: ggw on September 28, 2004, 11:05:00 am
The Wrens -- Secaucus
 The Cure -- Boys Don't Cry
 Black Sabbath -- Paranoid
 Sleater-Kinney -- Dig Me Out
 Neutral Milk Hotel -- In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: grotty on September 28, 2004, 11:07:00 am
Hopefully...
 
 Interpol ~ Antics
 
 Really looking forward to picking this up in a few minutes.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 28, 2004, 11:13:00 am
My list goes to 6...
 
 Old 97's: Wreck Your Life
 Wilco: Being There
 Robbie Fulks: South Mouth
 Slobberbone: Barrel Chested
 the Shins: Chutes too Narrow
 Beulah: When Your Heartstrings Break
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: sonickteam2 on September 28, 2004, 11:25:00 am
I'll do 5
 
   1. Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
   2. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Bayou Country
   3. Muse - Origin Of Symmetry
   4. Madonna - Like A Virgin
   5. Cypress Hill - Black Sunday (dont ask..i love it)
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 28, 2004, 11:29:00 am
The Posies - Dear 23
 Brendan Benson - Lapalco
 Sloan - Twice Removed
 Nirvana - Nevermind
 Splitsville - Ultrasound
 
 bonus round choice - Supergrass In It for the Money was disappointed with it at first because it wasn't I Should Coco redux but revisited it after the fact a might fine mature album
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: SalParadise on September 28, 2004, 11:32:00 am
radiohead - 'the bends'
 michael jackson - 'thriller'
 the clash - 'london calling'
 the bees - 'free the bees'
 digable planets - 'blowout comb'
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 28, 2004, 11:34:00 am
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Originally posted by SalParadise:
 
 the clash - 'london calling'
 
actually their third which of course cues the next topic, or bands which got better with each release...
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: SalParadise on September 28, 2004, 11:35:00 am
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
   
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Originally posted by SalParadise:
 
 the clash - 'london calling'
 
actually their third which of course cues the next topic, or bands which got better with each release... [/b]
so it's
 self-titled
 'sandinista'
 then 'london calling'?
 
 hmm, didn't know that.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: thirsty moore on September 28, 2004, 11:36:00 am
Nope, it's S/T, Give Em Enough Rope, London Calling.
 
   
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Originally posted by SalParadise:
 so it's
 self-titled
 'sandinista'
 then 'london calling'?
 
 hmm, didn't know that.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: Random Citizen on September 28, 2004, 11:38:00 am
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Originally posted by grotty:
  Hopefully...
 
 Interpol ~ Antics
 
 Really looking forward to picking this up in a few minutes.
Same here...about to brave the off/on rain to head over to Olsson's.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 28, 2004, 11:40:00 am
dig me out and in an aeroplane aside:
 dinosaur jr: you're living all over me
 replacements: hootnany
 pavement: crooked rain, crooked rain
 built to spill: there's nothing wrong with love
 public enemy: it takes a nation of millions to hold us back
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on September 28, 2004, 11:44:00 am
The Shins - Chutes Too Narrow
 
 The Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
 
 Belle & Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
 
 My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
  -- the ultimate "build off the debut album's ideas" sophomore release
 
 Red House Painters - Red House Painters (rollercoaster)
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 28, 2004, 11:45:00 am
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Originally posted by econo:
  Nope, it's S/T, Give Em Enough Rope, London Calling.
 
   
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Originally posted by SalParadise:
 so it's
 self-titled
 'sandinista'
 then 'london calling'?
 
 hmm, didn't know that.
[/b]
which was a case of the record co bring in the wrong type of producer for the band and thus resulting in poorer record... would like to hear the demos outtakes from these sessions, seeing at there were some good songs on that record just a bit to polished compared to s/t and london calling... safe european home, tommy gun, etc
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: thirsty moore on September 28, 2004, 11:48:00 am
Agreed, Tommy Gun is a good song but is too cleaned up.  If it had the same bite as the song London Calling, it'd be a great song.
 
 
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
 would like to hear the demos outtakes from these sessions, seeing at there were some good songs on that record just a bit to polished compared to s/t and london calling... safe european home, tommy gun, etc
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: J'Mal on September 28, 2004, 11:52:00 am
Garbage, Version 2.0
 Dada, American Highway Flower
 Dire Straits, Communique
 REM, Reckoning
 Pearl Jam, Vs.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: distance on September 28, 2004, 12:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
 
 The Cure -- Boys Don't Cry
you consider that to be their second?
 i'd say that seventeen seconds was.
 BDC was more of a compilation of singles and some other stuff that was released after three imaginary boys.  there's a lot of overlapping material between the two (with some stuff dropped off) and then the singles (BDC/jumping someone else's train) added.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: TomJaworski on September 28, 2004, 12:10:00 pm
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quote:
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Originally posted by grotty:
 Hopefully...
 
 Interpol ~ Antics
 
 Really looking forward to picking this up in a few minutes.
 --------------------------------------------------
 
 Same here...about to brave the off/on rain to head over to Olsson's.  
Sorry...don't think its nearly as fresh and exciting as their debut.  Still okay though.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: ggw on September 28, 2004, 12:12:00 pm
I always thought it was their first, but according to Allmusic, it's second.  I guess there's some gray area.  I wouldn't object to Seventeen Seconds on my list.
 
 
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Originally posted by distance:
   
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
 
 The Cure -- Boys Don't Cry
you consider that to be their second?
 [/b]
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: distance on September 28, 2004, 12:22:00 pm
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  I always thought it was their first, but according to Allmusic, it's second.  I guess there's some gray area.  I wouldn't object to Seventeen Seconds on my list.
 
personally i'd say it goes:
 three imaginary boys -> seventeen seconds -> faith -> pornography -> who cares
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: thirsty moore on September 28, 2004, 12:25:00 pm
Call it derivative, but:
 
 and you will know us by the trail of dead - Madonna
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: redsock on September 28, 2004, 12:34:00 pm
Live- Throwing Copper (and i don't care what you think)
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: ratioci nation on September 28, 2004, 12:38:00 pm
Pixies - Doolittle
 Beulah - When Your Heartstrings Break
 PJ Harvey - Rid of Me
 Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane...
 Neil Young - everybody knows this is nowhere
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: vansmack on September 28, 2004, 12:45:00 pm
Paul's Boutique and they're in Brooklyn.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: godsshoeshine on September 28, 2004, 12:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by pollard:
  Neil Young - everybody knows this is nowhere
dammit, that was his second? should be on my list too
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: vansmack on September 28, 2004, 12:58:00 pm
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Originally posted by redsock:
  Live- Throwing Copper (and i don't care what you think)
Smackette and I were talking about that last night.  Trio had a Live show from Belgium and they played some of the better (non-popular) songs from that album (White Discussion, T.B.D.) and played some videos from Mental Jewelry before commercial breaks.  They were such young kids during the writing and making of Throwing Copper to produce such a brilliant album.  I think it is a great sophomore album, and true as well because they could barely be sophomores in college at the time.  
 
 Good call.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: xcanuck on September 28, 2004, 01:22:00 pm
Again....not the coolest or hippest list ever but these sophomore attempts have all played an important part in my life.
 
 1. Pearl Jam - Vs
 2. Genesis - Trespass (that's what I get for being 13 in 1977)
 3. Weakerthans - Left and Leaving
 4. Led Zeppelin - Zeppelin II
 5. Tragically Hip - Road Apples
 
 Yes....I'm feeling old....
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 28, 2004, 01:25:00 pm
oh yeah, how did I forget "Throwing Copper" by Live?
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: igor on September 28, 2004, 01:43:00 pm
my top 5:
 bob dylan - freewheelin' bob dylan
 big star - radio city
 built to spill - there is nothing wrong with love
 nick drake - bryter layter
 van morrison - astral weeks
 
 some more that come to mind:
 joseph arthur - come to where i'm from
 neil young - everybody knows this is nowhere
 kyuss - blues for the red sun
 metallica - ride the lightning
 megadeth - peace sells
 my morning jacket - at dawn
 dinosaur jr. - you're living all over me
 ben harper - fight for your mind
 the verve - a northern soul
 radiohead - the bends
 tim buckley - goodbye and hello
 tim hardin - tim hardin 2
 fred neil - fred neil
 meshuggah - destroy erase improve
 atheist - unquestionable presence
 dissection - storm of the light's bane
 cryptopsy - none so vile
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: grotty on September 28, 2004, 01:53:00 pm
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Originally posted by vansmack:
   
Quote
Originally posted by redsock:
  Live- Throwing Copper (and i don't care what you think)
Smackette and I were talking about that last night.  Trio had a Live show from Belgium and they played some of the better (non-popular) songs from that album (White Discussion, T.B.D.) and played some videos from Mental Jewelry before commercial breaks.  They were such young kids during the writing and making of Throwing Copper to produce such a brilliant album.  I think it is a great sophomore album, and true as well because they could barely be sophomores in college at the time.  
 
 Good call. [/b]
I saw them touring for this record @ the old Club. It was before the record had broken HUGE. It actually was a very good show. A ton of energy. I hate to admit it, but it was probably one of my fav shows in the old space.
 
 6 months later I hated them. That probably says more about me & my short attention + a serious dislike for things popular than it does about them.
 
 My dislike though has only solidified over time with subsequent mediocre to poor releases.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: Random Citizen on September 28, 2004, 01:54:00 pm
Some great ones on your list Igor!
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: vansmack on September 28, 2004, 02:01:00 pm
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Originally posted by grotty:
  My dislike though has only solidified over time with subsequent mediocre to poor releases.
True that.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 28, 2004, 02:13:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by igor:
  my top 5:
 
 big star - radio city
 
#1 Record/Radio City is quite possibly one of the best one two punches ever released by a band.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: redsock on September 28, 2004, 02:27:00 pm
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Originally posted by grotty:
   
Quote
Originally posted by vansmack:
     
Quote
Originally posted by redsock:
  Live- Throwing Copper (and i don't care what you think)
Smackette and I were talking about that last night.  Trio had a Live show from Belgium and they played some of the better (non-popular) songs from that album (White Discussion, T.B.D.) and played some videos from Mental Jewelry before commercial breaks.  They were such young kids during the writing and making of Throwing Copper to produce such a brilliant album.  I think it is a great sophomore album, and true as well because they could barely be sophomores in college at the time.  
 
 Good call. [/b]
I saw them touring for this record @ the old Club. It was before the record had broken HUGE. It actually was a very good show. A ton of energy. I hate to admit it, but it was probably one of my fav shows in the old space.
 
 6 months later I hated them. That probably says more about me & my short attention + a serious dislike for things popular than it does about them.
 
 My dislike though has only solidified over time with subsequent mediocre to poor releases. [/b]
I saw them just after it broke big at the WUST Hall, now known as the 930 club. It will certainly go down as one of my all-time favorite shows. So much energy, the crowd was insane. And Weezer opened. Well. so did Fatima Mansions, but other than Brennser, I'm pretty sure nobody noticed.  Lots of stunning mediocrity since.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: thirsty moore on September 28, 2004, 02:30:00 pm
Our looooove is... like walter.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on September 28, 2004, 02:37:00 pm
Big Star tops my most overrated bands list. Sure, they're not terrible, but their music isn't all that innovative, and there are tons of bands that have done stuff in that vein since then that have been better.
 
 I would say the same thing about Gram Parsons, though not as harshly (at least he was a bit innovative in his merging of country and rock).
 
 
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
   
Quote
Originally posted by igor:
  my top 5:
 
 big star - radio city
 
#1 Record/Radio City is quite possibly one of the best one two punches ever released by a band. [/b]
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: eltee on September 28, 2004, 02:59:00 pm
Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: Lazer Guided Melodies on September 28, 2004, 03:07:00 pm
Spiritualized--Pure Phase
 Spacemen 3--The Perfect Prescription
 VU--White Light/White Heat
 Death In Vegas--The Contino Sessions
 The Stooges--Fun House
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: Venerable Bede on September 28, 2004, 03:27:00 pm
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Originally posted by redsock:
  I saw them just after it broke big at the WUST Hall, now known as the 930 club. It will certainly go down as one of my all-time favorite shows. So much energy, the crowd was insane. And Weezer opened. Well. so did Fatima Mansions, but other than Brennser, I'm pretty sure nobody noticed.  Lots of stunning mediocrity since.
saw that show in austin.  heck, i saw them like 4 times for their first album, and another 3 times for their second.  they did a pre-tour of throwing copper that i saw at slim's in san francisco with vic chesnutt opening, then in austin with fatima mansions, weezer and live (sidenote:  i've seen weezer twice, both times as opening act), and the third time was in Salt Lake City with veruca salt and pj harvey as openers.
 
 i really haven't had the time to consider the questions on the table. . .maybe i'll get to it tonight. . .after all, a's game doesn't start until 10.
Title: Re: Top Five All-Time Greatest Sophomore Albums
Post by: Random Citizen on September 29, 2004, 08:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
  Sorry...don't think its nearly as fresh and exciting as their debut.  Still okay though.
Going to have to respectfully disagree with you on this. The album is much better in a lot of ways than TOTBL. Paul's voice is stronger, the lyrics are both dark and romantic and the music is very solid.