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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: eltee on September 28, 2004, 11:25:00 am
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anyone stepping out?
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I'll be there... who else?
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I've only seen 8 shows in the last 10 days....so I might as well go tonite! :) Yeah...I'll be there. I'm a sucker for Coldplay soundalikes.
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pitchfork told me they were no good.
http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/k/keane/hopes-and-fears.shtml (http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/k/keane/hopes-and-fears.shtml)
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going, because they sound just like the old 97s.
actually, strokes fans will likely like the openers, french kicks.
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
going, because they sound just like the old 97s.
They sound like a twangy frat band? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55559-2004Sep27.html)
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Saw them in Baltimore. Good show, they pull it off and that guy can really sing (not tracks, no special boxes processing his voice). I would go but Gibson Haynes is playing.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
pitchfork told me they were no good.
http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/k/keane/hopes-and-fears.shtml (http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/k/keane/hopes-and-fears.shtml)
Sounds like a good reason to see them!! :)
Pitchfork is one of those hipper-than-thou sites that bugs me. Their reviewers love to gush over obscure and/or weird bands, just to be cool (IMHO).
It's a great source for news, but reviews....well to each their own.
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Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
anyone stepping out?
i just dont have the energy for a solo trip to DC. I am sorry, hopefully they will still play ;)
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going. the french kicks are pretty great live, and i have been enamored of the keane album for a while.
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count me in as well.
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kind of disappointing.
the keane guy has great pipes but the material is, sort of bland. kind of like starsailor, dazzling vocal talent but not much soul.
it is pretty on the record, which is why i went but although they sounded no different live, perhaps that was the problem. and probably i would've dug it more if they weren't 1.5 hours late. it just kinda dampened the mood to be standing around for that long in a sold-out smoke filled room.
the HFS donkey came out at 10:15 and said, oh, the plane has already landed, they're here, it'll be just a few minutes. it was obvious he was full of crap. they didn't start until about 11:30. Maybe 25 minutes later, they said, "this is our last song." not feeling it, I left. for the sake of those who remained, I sure do hope they bothered with an encore. WTF is that? show up that late and play for thirty minutes? but then, they'd played five or seven songs, so....
french kicks sound like franz ferdinand or the strokes or any of those other bands. pretty good live, i won't rush out to buy the CD but they were more entertaining.
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Wow, are you serious? I'm glad I didn't go then.
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
Wow, are you serious? I'm glad I didn't go then.
nice attitude!!!! you know why they were late? they were waiting for you!!! and then they figured you must be there, so they went on. and then when they found out you werent there, they abruptly left.
see. you ruined it for everyone. And you're just glad you saved a few bucks....sheesh.
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I was also disappointed.
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HA HA!! Wow...I'm glad I know now. Shit, I better not piss off Supergrass tonight, then. I've heard that Gaz has a hell of an uppercut.
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I've managed to miss Supergrass everytime they've come to town. And I can't see them tonight.
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Originally posted by bunnyman:
HA HA!! Wow...I'm glad I know now. Shit, I better not piss off Supergrass tonight, then. I've heard that Gaz has a hell of an uppercut.
actually, Supergrass hopes you dont even bother coming tonight!
;)
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Well, they're outta luck...but that explains why they cancel so much when they come to DC! It's happened twice that I can think of.
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i have to say that i for one was really impressed by the show. my friends and i were all loving keane's sound, and tom's dancing was a cute little plus. you can't really be down on them for being late, either. lest we forget the weather was rather shit yesterday.
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I couldn't be bothered to wait for the show to start. I must have missed Keane by about 5 mins. It sucks that they only played half an hour. People will remember that s**t the next time they come around.
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weather my ass. it rained, it wasn't a hurricane. their equipment made it and sat under a tarp until well past 11.
it's just not responsible to try to do shows in NY and DC the same day. there's a sold out club full of people who want to hear you, you should schedule yourself to probably get there on time, and not be too busy to play more than half an hour.
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
weather my ass. it rained, it wasn't a hurricane. their equipment made it and sat under a tarp until well past 11.
it's just not responsible to try to do shows in NY and DC the same day. there's a sold out club full of people who want to hear you, you should schedule yourself to probably get there on time, and not be too busy to play more than half an hour.
? That's equipment, which is much easier to transport. Did the band drive or fly? NY to DC makes sense, but it can cause problems when flying out of NYC in bad weather. Booking agents do their best, but I've seen worse city-to-city schedules. I'm not sure why they only played for half an hour, maybe that is the noise ordinance regarding shows not going past a certain hour during the week? A late start and short set are really unfortunate and too bad it's not told prior to heading down there, or earlier in the evening.
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so the equipment can fly or drive faster than the band?
bullshit.
they were busy doing other things and couldn't be bothered to leave NY on time.
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Equipment can be shipped or transported immediately after a show, or early in the day. If a band/artist flies and is held up at an airport due to delays for their safety, then yeah.
Where did they play in NY on the 28th? Keane's schedule on their website states they were in Philly the night before last.
Originally posted by J'Mal:
so the equipment can fly or drive faster than the band?
bullshit.
they were busy doing other things and couldn't be bothered to leave NY on time.
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HFS guy said they were doing conan
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I was disappointed as well. It seemed to me they were really speeding through the set. I bailed about 11:45 to catch the metro, and it sounds like I didn't miss much. I see they are playing Irving Plaza in New York today? Seems like they tried to cram too much in a few days. Although I like the CD, I doubt I would go see them again live.
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don't hate on them. if anything it's the fault of their booking agent. but scheduling a tour is doubtlessly hard, and i too have seen far worse schedules than this one. plus, they were very apologetic, both during and after the show. the set wasn't as long as i would have liked, but i didn't feel they sped through it.
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"delays for their safety?"
what, is al qaeda looking for them?
Come on, it's very simple. If equipment can get on a van, train, or plane, so can people. Or you think the authorities would allow a plane full of amps and keyboards to crash, since it would only risk the pilot and some random people on the ground, but a plane full of KEANE -- ooo, we have to wait for the typhoon to pass?
total bullshit. they packed too much in their schedule. when their 15 minutes are up, they'll regret it. i went because i kinda liked them, they missed a chance to turn at least one person here into a fan and by the looks of it, i'm not the only one.
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
but a plane full of KEANE -- ooo, we have to wait for the typhoon to pass?
I wasn't speaking specifically of just them. Delays happen when traveling.
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
they missed a chance to turn at least one person here into a fan and by the looks of it, i'm not the only one.
well, if they were late cause they were taping Conan, then they took an oppurtuunity to turn several hundred thousand people into fans, instead of just 1000 at the show.
ain't that america!
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The Delays are overrated
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they were done with conan in time to make it for the show. conan tapes in the afternoon. their equipment made it. they were probably busy shopping, visiting the statue of liberty, rocco's restaurant.... whatever.
it was lame.
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
they missed a chance to turn at least one person here into a fan and by the looks of it, i'm not the only one.
i dont know about that
<img src="http://www.kendallbruns.com/2002/2067_spin.jpg" alt=" - " /> "When the doors opened after the Keane show....all the people were gone!"
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They have two sets of equipment. They have something for doing TV shows, a smaller rack of gear that can go on planes (they rent drums if I remember correctly), and so for Conan I would guess that is what they brought and left their gear here for the show. So yes, the gear and band quite possibly were separated.
I know in my area that we had hellacious winds and rain well into the evening from the hurricane. I don't know if NYC or National was closed, delayed or the like from the storm but could well be. I have sat in many an airport for long periods because of the weather.
I think Conan is 4-5 pm for the taping.
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Well, I'm certainly feeling better about missing Keane (or lack thereof) last night. So glad I braved it out to Iota for Tom McRae (and stayed for Rachael Yamagata) - his voice was tremendously captivating, even in a packed club where people were more interested in loudly discussing their workdays than shutting the heck up and paying attention to the rapturous cello. Bravo for THAT performance.
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to settle any debate:
the gear for conan was rented - all of their regular gear and their drum tech were in DC all day. conan didn't begin taping until 5 PM. they had a chartered flight down to dulles, but the weather is what made getting to the airport, then the flight itself delayed (i guess no one really wanted another buddy holly...)
oh and the reason they were booked for last night's conan instead of tonight when they've got a show in NY is because it was the night after jay leno announced that conan would be taking over the tonight show. therefore, double the standard ratings were predicted for the show.
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Originally posted by Sweetjoy:
Well, I'm certainly feeling better about missing Keane (or lack thereof) last night. So glad I braved it out to Iota for Tom McRae (and stayed for Rachael Yamagata) - his voice was tremendously captivating, even in a packed club where people were more interested in loudly discussing their workdays than shutting the heck up and paying attention to the rapturous cello. Bravo for THAT performance.
How was Rachael?
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Originally posted by your mom:
to settle any debate:
the gear for conan was rented - all of their regular gear and their drum tech were in DC all day. conan didn't begin taping until 5 PM. they had a chartered flight down to dulles, but the weather is what made getting to the airport, then the flight itself delayed (i guess no one really wanted another buddy holly...)
oh and the reason they were booked for last night's conan instead of tonight when they've got a show in NY is because it was the night after jay leno announced that conan would be taking over the tonight show. therefore, double the standard ratings were predicted for the show.
jay leno is leaving the tonight show?
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
jay leno is leaving the tonight show?
in 2009
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Dude, where have you been for the past few days? Baltimore?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
jay leno is leaving the tonight show?
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Originally posted by econo:
Dude, where have you been for the past few days? Baltimore?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
jay leno is leaving the tonight show?
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i dont watch TV, ass
and i didnt hear about no damn leno.
and i even fell asleep just as they were announcing who got cut from Dream Job
so when's he leaving. i HATED him.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
and i even fell asleep just as they were announcing who got cut from Dream Job
Valerie and KC.
I want to cut Stephen A. Smith.
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what the hell is dream job?
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I want to cut Stephen A. Smith.
thanks, me too. he hates white people
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Originally posted by pollard:
what the hell is a dream job?
web design.
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What channel's ESPN on?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
i dont watch TV, ass
and i even fell asleep just as they were announcing who got cut from Dream Job
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Originally posted by econo:
What channel's ESPN on?
42
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Originally posted by pollard:
what the hell is dream job?
making a beautiful website for jesus (http://www.geocities.com/missteecat/abeautifulwebsiteforJesus.html)
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Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
web design.
damn straight, nothing but women and money
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you wont even watch this sonick?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6132222/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6132222/)
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Originally posted by megs:
plus, they were very apologetic, both during and after the show.
They should have "apologized" by playing a decent set. There's no excuse at all for playing for half an hour. Especially when they came late. They're a fucking indie band, they don't have to get up at the crack of dawn the next day -- much of their audience does, and if they're willing to stay, the band should play for the folks who waited around so long....
The flight delays I understand -- happens to me every time I choose to fly to NY rather than train, but they *did* get here, so play for over a freakin' hour!
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I agree with Bags completely!
As far as tv goes, I almost never watch it either and even I knew about Leno and I live in Baltimore. It was just one of those unavoidable news items of the day.
And J'Mal, yes it was a hurricane. Or the remnants of one. My neighborhood was so flooded out that streets were closed and some various public transportation systems taken offline for the remainder of the day.
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what do people expect they only have one 50 minute long album, sure there are a handful of b-sides and very early tracks which in general people haven't heard. maybe a cover would pad the set but it would seems more then 60 minutes is a stretch. bands like this should be a co-headlining tour with another flash in the pan band doing a 60 minute set...
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Originally posted by your mom:
to settle any debate:
the gear for conan was rented - all of their regular gear and their drum tech were in DC all day. conan didn't begin taping until 5 PM.
oh and the reason they were booked for last night's conan instead of tonight when they've got a show in NY is because it was the night after jay leno announced that conan would be taking over the tonight show. therefore, double the standard ratings were predicted for the show.
If it makes any of you feel better, their performance on Letterman at the beginning of the month was far superior to their performance on Conan this week.
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they did not play for 30 minutes! i was there. they played for nearly an hour. they have one album. which gives them maybe an 1.5 hour set max, if they do any unreleased songs or b sides.
they went on at 11.15 and went off at 12.05. i was there the entire time. and yes they were apologetic and i don't think the band should be blamed for what was probably their manager or tour manager's scheduling snafus.
it was a good show. french kicks did a solid set, keane did a solid set.
and for the record, keane is not trying to be coldplay. starsailor is more like it. i'd be curious how their second album turns out now and if its a bit more sophisticated.
but for $15, and yeah, we had to wait over an hour extra for them it was a decent evening.
just take away the typical hfs crowd, but that again, is not the band's fault.
i'm surprised fico hasn't posted yet. he was right next to me.
"hi fico"
"hi, here's my cd. $5. pay me next time"
aggressive sales man, is that fico!
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and as for tom mccrae, i wish he would do a show backstage at the black cat. he was here 2 years ago, when he opened for the waterboys. but opening for rachel yamagata? what an insult to his talents. it should be the other way around.