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Title: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: on May 12, 2007, 10:47:00 am
Al Sharpton that tirelessly crusading anti-racist stegosaurus, recently dipped his chocolatey toes in hot water when he alleged that Mormonism isn't endorsed by God.
 
 "As for the one Mormon running for office," Sharpton said yesterday regarding the lantern-jawed, impossibly handsome Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, "those who really believe in God will defeat him anyways."
 
 I've been to Utah. If there's one American state pretty enough to serve as God's headquarters, it'd be Utah.
 
 But I don't believe God was a range-rovin' Utah cowboy who took a siesta for 1800 years after his son's crucifixion, then wiped the boogers from his eyes and busted out with a New Revelation to a mentally cracked Joseph Smith and a purportedly very well-hung Brigham Young.
 
 Something about it just doesn't seem plausible to me.
 
 Plus, they've done away with polygamy, which was by far their strongest selling point.
 
 Known any Mormons? I have. Pretty dense people.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 12, 2007, 11:28:00 am
the main flaw with Mormonism is that some of its myths took place recently enough in the past to be easily debunkable, whereas most religions' myths took place so long ago that nobody can actually prove they are not true.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: on May 12, 2007, 12:23:00 pm
Well, Hell, they're only an "m" away from bein' Morons. They're a bit like Nazi eye-candy.  All the ones I know (active and non-active) look like the Berlin HS Yearbook, from 1938. Mormons: they don't drink, they don't smoke...JUST LIKE HITLER!
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 For my own part, I find that there is something just a bit uh...creepy...about them.  It's sort of the same feeling I get when I think of the Children of the Corn...or any other religious extremists.
 
 I find I'm a bit envious of their ability to have faith, disgusted of their claim to be the "chosen people," and just downright scared of their robotic devotion to hand-me-down scribblings purporting to be god's word.
 
 As for Mitt Romney, I look at him and have the same thoughts I do as when I see a photo of Jessica Simpson--a Baptist.  "Damn, that's a fine piece of ass."  
 
 But, does anybody really want either of them in charge of anything, at the end of the day? My rule of thumb is to avoid joining any faith that requires you don underwear with mysterious secret symbols on 'em.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: PigIron on May 12, 2007, 12:59:00 pm
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But, does anybody really want either of them in charge of anything, at the end of the day? My rule of thumb is to avoid joining any faith that requires you don underwear with mysterious secret symbols on 'em.  
When it comes to who the president should be, I could give a shit about religious faith. All religions are creepy in some way.  Damn, I'm Catholic, and if there was an annual "Religion is Creepy National Parade", we might be in front, holding the banner.
 Trust me, I see how its easy to make the Mormons a target for jokes.  And I oppose Romney on every issue.  But isn't it a tiny bit wrong to go after a candidate for his religious faith?  I see the position of president like I see all the other important jobs in this country.  I want people who are capable to fill these positions and not screw up.  The president who gets elected can worship a friggin pile of horse shit if he wants to, as long as he gets the country out of the dumpster.
 And Al Sharpton is an a-hole anyway.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 12, 2007, 01:00:00 pm
They do look awfully smart in their dark suits and name badges though.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 12, 2007, 01:03:00 pm
But isn't it a tiny bit wrong to go after a candidate for his religious faith?
 
 
 Not at all, no offense, but I don't want a muslim in charge of any country I live in....or more importantly any country the women I care deeply about live in.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: PigIron on May 12, 2007, 01:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  But isn't it a tiny bit wrong to go after a candidate for his religious faith?
 
 
 Not at all, no offense, but I don't want a muslim in charge of any country I live in....or more importantly any country the women I care deeply about live in.
But you are stereotyping here.  We've had an assload of Protestant presidents.  And none have chosen to create a society where women play a subordinate role to men.  However, some fundamentalist Baptists take this stand.  Just like some fundamentalist Muslims do.  Of course I wouldn't support a guy who sees women as second-class citizens - but it would be for that reason.  I wouldn't cross him off the ballot immediately if I saw "Islam".
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 12, 2007, 01:48:00 pm
I don't care if you think I'm racist or not, but I want nothing to do with islam, muslim or whatever you want to call it. That is one fucked up way of life and full of nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs....end of story!
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 12, 2007, 04:15:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 full of nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs
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Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: on May 12, 2007, 04:33:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  I don't care if you think I'm racist or not, but I want nothing to do with islam, muslim or whatever you want to call it. That is one fucked up way of life and full of nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs....end of story!
I'm siding with O'Mankie on this one.  They better modernize their thinking tuit suite, or else.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 12, 2007, 05:28:00 pm
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
   
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 full of nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs
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Not sure were you read 'hate' in my comment, but you're entitled to your opinion.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 12, 2007, 05:46:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Not sure were you read 'hate' in my comment, but you're entitled to your opinion.
"That is one fucked up way of life," your words, can translate only a couple of ways -- hate, or ignorance.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Jaguar on May 12, 2007, 07:58:00 pm
From my experience with Muslims, I've found that, very generally speaking, there are two types. 1) The type that Mankie speaks of who believe that everyone outside of their beliefs should be destroyed. 2) Those who have chosen the Muslim way and respect all others as individuals who just think differently but deserve to be respected and treated as they wish themselves to be treated. Like any other group, the bad apples cast a bad shadow over the whole.
 
 I do not at all have any respect for the first type I noted and would never vote for such a person. The second type I've mentioned have contained some of the best people that I have happened to meet. In fact, while I was teaching, the Muslim students and professionals that I've encountered where the most respecting of themselves and others and were my favorite people that I've encountered my entire time there. That type, I would vote for in a flash as long as their political agendas coincided with mine.
 
 Guess that I would have to say the same about a Mormon; however, because of opposing political agendas, I would never vote for Mitt Romney.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 13, 2007, 09:13:00 am
Well said, Jaguar.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 13, 2007, 10:11:00 am
That's great Jag....very nice I'm sure.
 
 Maybe your views would be different if you'd visited as many muslim countries as I have and seen muslim beliefs influence laws, or lived in a neighbourhood were non-muslims are the minority and been subjected to the way they treat non-muslims.
 
 Then again....maybe not.  ;)
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on May 13, 2007, 10:11:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  I don't care if you think I'm racist or not, but I want nothing to do with islam, muslim or whatever you want to call it. That is one fucked up way of life and full of nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs....end of story!
you're an idiot
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on May 13, 2007, 10:14:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
 Maybe your views would be different if you'd visited as many muslim countries as I have and seen muslim beliefs influence laws, or lived in a neighbourhood were non-muslims are the minority and been subjected to the way they treat non-muslims.
maybe your views would be different if you didn't see something (hip-hop, islam, etc) and immediately take a broad-brush approach to its culture, damning everything in its path ... you come off as really small-minded on here
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 13, 2007, 10:39:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  That's great Jag....very nice I'm sure.
 
 Maybe your views would be different if you'd visited as many muslim countries as I have and seen muslim beliefs influence laws, or lived in a neighbourhood were non-muslims are the minority and been subjected to the way they treat non-muslims.
 
 Then again....maybe not.   ;)  
It's unfortunate when people have the opportunity to travel and yet still learn nothing.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 13, 2007, 11:16:00 am
You mean when they don't afftect the enlightened Dr. Doom worldview?
 
 
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
   
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  That's great Jag....very nice I'm sure.
 
 Maybe your views would be different if you'd visited as many muslim countries as I have and seen muslim beliefs influence laws, or lived in a neighbourhood were non-muslims are the minority and been subjected to the way they treat non-muslims.
 
 Then again....maybe not.    ;)  
It's unfortunate when people have the opportunity to travel and yet still learn nothing. [/b]
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on May 13, 2007, 12:07:00 pm
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  You mean when they don't afftect the enlightened Dr. Doom worldview?
yeah, it's soooo self-righteous to call bullshit on xenophobic crap like this:
 
 "I don't care if you think I'm racist or not, but I want nothing to do with islam, muslim or whatever you want to call it. That is one fucked up way of life and full of nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs....end of story!"
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 13, 2007, 12:50:00 pm
Well as long as he doesn't start advocating violence against them, he's still less crappy than some of the people he's hating on.
 
 
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
   
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  You mean when they don't afftect the enlightened Dr. Doom worldview?
yeah, it's soooo self-righteous to call bullshit on xenophobic crap like this:
 
 "I don't care if you think I'm racist or not, but I want nothing to do with islam, muslim or whatever you want to call it. That is one fucked up way of life and full of nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs....end of story!" [/b]
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: on May 13, 2007, 01:24:00 pm
Mid-East immigrant Muslims seem much better behaved here than their Afrikan American (our native born Moslem converts) brethren.  Mid-east immigrants usually provide good service at the 7-11s & Dunkin' Donuts.  Afrikan American moslems are the chip-on-shoulder types who march in million man rallies calling  for and end to whitey.
 
 It was free pizza day at work on Friday.  They asked the employees what kind they wanted.  The Afrikan American Moslem girl said, "No Pork."  So everyone else got stuck with cheese only pizza.  She should have said she didn't want any pizza.  I felt like shoving a pepperoini slice down her gob so she could fry in Moslem hell.  Just for that I'm gonna visit all Moslem gravesites in my neighborhood and shove a piece of raw bacon in the dirt above their heathen corpses just for making me deal with their daily crap.  I think I'm going to carry a jar of Bacos with me wherever I go from now on.
 
 Fucking Muslims!
 
 And why are Afrikan Americans jumping so  wholeheartedly onto the fundamentalist Islam bandwagon?  Haven't they already marginalized themselves enough with their high crime gangsta-rap culture?  Why don't they send some donations to the Moslem Sudanese government, just like Mullah Louis Farakhan, so that they can further enslave the black Christian population in the south?  Afrikan American Muslims are all pro-black Afrikan slavery. Way to go Afrikan American Muslims! That's using the thinking cap. It's no wonder the police are keeping such a close eye on them.  When the big terror turd hits the fan again, a'la 9/11, I wonder who will be the first to get the ole heave-ho?
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: on May 13, 2007, 01:26:00 pm
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Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
   and immediately take a broad-brush approach to its culture..?
Spoken by a true master of the power painter.  You watch,  when a US city evaporates in a nuclear flash...do you think Hoya & Doom will be hiding  those wonderful Afrikan Amerikan Moslems from the authorities in their own apartments?  Do you think they will give sanctuary to MS-13 illegal immigrants when martial law is declared?  Ha!
 
 They are fair-weather advocates.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 13, 2007, 02:19:00 pm
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Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 13, 2007, 03:02:00 pm
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
   :roll:
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 13, 2007, 03:18:00 pm
its pretty typical of racists to not see themselves as such.  "Some of my best friends are black," yada yada.  But anyone who thinks they can categorize and condemn a billion people they've never met is a bigot -- nothing tired-old-PC about that.  It's what you are.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on May 13, 2007, 03:27:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  I used to think I was a liberal, but obviously liberal evidently means to have absolutely no opinion on anything ever.
who the fuck said you couldn't have an opinion about something?  liberals are some of the most opinionated people i know.
 
 but this isn't a liberal or conservative thing, writing something like this:
 
 
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"I don't care if you think I'm racist or not, but I want nothing to do with islam, muslim or whatever you want to call it. That is one fucked up way of life and full of nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs....end of story!"
is just stupid, bigoted, prejudiced, whatever the hell you want to call it
 
 and it's not a "politically correct" issue either ... you can dress up the language of what you said anyway you like, but at the heart of it is your simply retarded (how's that for PC?) "opinion"
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 13, 2007, 04:11:00 pm
Hmmmmm, those who don't think like me are retarded....now there's a narrow minded attitude.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 13, 2007, 04:20:00 pm
Muhammad got in my car, grinning from ear to ear, one of the nicest kids we know. Then there is Abbas, the son of an Iranian Shah who gave me an exquisite tapestry case just because he's generous. I smile whenever I think of Sharif and how we would almost fall over laughing as we bantered back and forth. I remember parties at Omar's in Ashland and I'm always happy to see my Muslim neighbors.
 
 I have liked every Muslim I have ever met.
 
 America is embracing a religion that is said to promote peace as many moderate Muslims happily practice it. But as Yale professor and military historian Mary Habeck points out, this "peace" is only the first phase of Islam. The "method of Muhammad" largely known by Middle East Islamists is to spread Islam peacefully at first but always including covert groups of "true followers" who will use violence against those who will not accept it. This method is verified in Islam's holy book, the Sira, and the pattern has been repeated throughout history.
 
 When scholars point at the Koran and the terrorist verses recited over acts of violence and beheadings, Muslims claim those verses are out of context. But they are only out of context to Islam's first phase. "Peace" is not the last phase of Islam. Muhammad, reverenced as Jesus Christ is to Christians, is the role model. Muslims believe if they want to experience his success, they must follow his footsteps exactly, and Muhammad slaughtered 600 to 900 Jews that rejected his "peaceful" Islam, then sold their wives and children into slavery as he continued to quote Allah, adding terrorism, beheadings and carnage.
 
 Bin Laden believes he is following Muhammad's footsteps. He did not hijack a religion, he just took it seriously.
 
 The answer is not to claim moderate Muslim beliefs are true Islam. The answer is not to ask our children to get on their hands and knees and pray to Allah in public school, to "become Muslim," fast for Ramadan, and "assume you are a Muslim soldier" as our textbooks direct. Once the governing majority is Muslim, "true Islam" and the totalitarian oppressive Sharia laws come into effect. Our freedoms will be slowly choked from us as they are being choked from France today.
 
 President Bush probably doubts we can "win the war on terror" because that would require the eradication of Islam completely, something America would never endeavor. Religious freedom is fundamental to us, it is part of what makes us great. We will not outlaw Islam, we will not hunt down and kill every Muslim in an effort to win the Jihad pronounced by sheiks. President Bush is absolutely right, we can't "win" the war, we can only fight to maintain our stature and freedom while we hunt down a never-ending supply of Islamic terrorists.
 
 Thus we have already "won" every day we stand as a shining light, (though dimming if our nation continues to oppose God).
 
 But the plight of the moderate Muslim is grave. As America slowly admits the enemy is true Islam, every effort must be made to embrace the moderate Muslim, not persecute them. The answer is not to blind our eyes and try to convince ourselves that moderate Muslims represent true Islam. They don't. Islam is defined by its holy books, and the holy books proclaim death to all who oppose it, even moderate Muslims. The answer is to live in reality, recognize the violence of true Islam as it rears its head, and ask moderate Muslims to reconsider. True Islam pronounces moderate Muslims as apostate, they are the "near enemies" in the Sira and without true conversion, they will be slaughtered right along with Christians and Jews. American Muslims need to take a hard look at what their Koran, in its entirety and true context, demands. They can no more denounce the method of Muhammad than Christians can denounce the sacrifice and love of God. I know, because as I battle with public educators for my children's religious freedom, I get angry, and God continually rebukes me for my anger. He reminds me of the sacrifice that Jesus Christ made for them as well, and I am constantly humbled.
 
 Muhammad slaughtered unbelievers. Jesus Christ gave Himself to be slaughtered. Muhammad took life, Jesus laid down His own life. I am to love these educators that would ask my sons to practice abominations to God, but I am not to give my sons over to them. We are to LOVE American Muslims, but we ought not give over our nation. We need to admit what true Islam is... or we can invest in prayer carpets, head baskets and burkas.
 
 So as America wakes up to our enemy's identity, pray for protection of moderate Muslims. They bought a belief without substance, a way of life without a Savior. Embrace them, love them and share His holy light with them. But at the same time, do not allow public schools to lead your sons and daughters to their plight. (and please pray I don't lose my temper in a courtroom defending my sons religious freedom. I can't believe what they're teaching).
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 13, 2007, 04:26:00 pm
The only thing that stops you from being a Nazi is you're targeting Muslims with your hate rather than Jews.  You can whine all you want about "political correctness," as if the problem were everyone else rather than you, but seriously, you ought to keep your bigotry to yourself.   It's an embarrassment to you, and it really has no place on a board that's supposed to be about music.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 13, 2007, 04:59:00 pm
Well, on review of this whole topic I can't recall anywhere were I stated I hate muslims. I said I think the muslim way of life is totally fucked up, which in my opinion it is. A couple of you simply put your own slant on a fairly non-threatening remark and turned into me being the next Hitler...funny how he usually get thrown in at every opportunity by the bleeding heart liberals...but I digress.
 
 I happen to think that circumsising is also fucked up, does that make me a jew-hater too, or re-confirm that I'm a muslim hater because of FGM? The answer is probably yes in your mind.
 
 Debate Among Muslims:
 As noted above, FGM is a social custom, not a religious practice. However, in those Muslim countries where it is practice, FGM is often justified by a controversial saying attributed to the Prophet Mohammed that seem to favor sunna circumcision. The authenticity of these sayings are unconfirmed, and some scholars have refuted them. Even if true, they only permit the practice; they do not mandate it.
 
 FGM has probably been performed for at least 1,400 years (some references estimate 2,000 years), and started during what Muslims call "al-gahiliyyah" (the era of ignorance). The Qu'r'an, Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) and Christian Scriptures (New Testament) is silent on the subject. The Sunnah (the words and actions of the Prophet Mohammed) contains a reference to female circumcision.

 
 
 If I take the same 'blinkers on, all or nothing' attitued that you took to my comments I must assume because you love the muslim way of life you are pro FGM...you sick bastard I pity your wife(s) and daughters then.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: on May 13, 2007, 05:52:00 pm
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  its pretty typical of racists to not see themselves as such.  "Some of my best friends are black," yada yada.  But anyone who thinks they can categorize and condemn a billion people they've never met is a bigot -- nothing tired-old-PC about that.  It's what you are.
Are there a billion Afrikan American Moslems living in the USA & UK?  ...maybe in Brittain.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: on May 13, 2007, 05:55:00 pm
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  The only thing that stops you from being a Nazi
Now who's using the broad brush now?
 
 Calling O'Mankie a nazi?  Next you'll doubtless say that Field Marshall Mongomery was a transvestitie!?!  Was Winston Churchill a klan wizard, too?
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: on May 13, 2007, 06:03:00 pm
One good thing about Mormons:  They live in deserts & preach polygamy...just like Moslems do.
 
 Maybe Mormons could be sent to the middle east as American envoys?  They could enjoy the harem dances and talk sand and tumbleweeds with the Wahabists...probably have a lot in common.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 13, 2007, 06:03:00 pm
Doctor Doom loves female genital mutilation? Wow, that's pertty fucked up. I guess we should have known, based on his screenname.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: on May 13, 2007, 06:08:00 pm
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  The only thing that stops you from being a Nazi is you're targeting Muslims with your hate rather than Jews.
The only thing that stops you from being a Khmer Rouge is you're targeting Mankie with your hate rather than Cambodian city dwellers.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 13, 2007, 09:31:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  Well, on review of this whole topic I can't recall anywhere were I stated I hate muslims. I said I think the muslim way of life is totally fucked up, which in my opinion it is.
You don't seem to be getting that you are calling an entire religion fucked up, based on a high level of ignorance and assumptions, and that is bigotry.
 
 To put it in terms you might understand, your mention earlier on of the fact that you've traveled to Muslim lands and learned nothing about their culture made me think of the type of British punters who travel all over the world but never bother to venture beyond their favorite British expat pub, and the working girls that frequent said pub, in the countries they visit.    Now, there is no question that *some* Brits behave as insufferable boors while on travel.  If I were to say all Brits are like that, though, that would be bigotry.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 14, 2007, 06:59:00 am
I do happen to think that the muslim religion is fucked up, what's so bigoted about that? I think most religions are fucked up but the muslim religion being the worst of the bunch. I don't wish any of them dead as you have accused me of, but there's no question that without religion there'd be a lot less wars and a lot less dead people.
 
 
 And you are the biggest user of the broad brush. It's just your bigotry and hatred is obviously targeted towards the British.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 14, 2007, 07:02:00 am
All NAZIS were bad.
 
 Ooops, I'm a bigot too.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 14, 2007, 09:33:00 am
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  I do happen to think that the muslim religion is fucked up, what's so bigoted about that? I think most religions are fucked up but the muslim religion being the worst of the bunch. I don't wish any of them dead as you have accused me of, but there's no question that without religion there'd be a lot less wars and a lot less dead people.
 
 
 And you are the biggest user of the broad brush. It's just your bigotry and hatred is obviously targeted towards the British.
I have nothing against the British, you obviously completely missed the point (just like you missed picking up any knowledge from your travels).  I was applying your exact attitude to a group you were familiar with, so you would understand how you come off.  Didn't think I'd have to spell that out.   :D
 
 Anyway it's time to hopefully let this sorry thread die so that's my last word on the matter.
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 14, 2007, 09:38:00 am
Based on the first definition, I'd say a vast mojority of the people on this board are "bigots". Based on the second definition, I don't see anything in Mankie's stated opinions that qualifies him as a "bigot."
 
 
 bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 14, 2007, 09:46:00 am
hey don't be dissin' us that have Mojo
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 14, 2007, 09:53:00 am
is this the point where I interject that I encounter a group who like to dress up like Faeries and have festival...  what a bunch of FREAKS (although one of them was kinda hot)
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 14, 2007, 10:10:00 am
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
   
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  I do happen to think that the muslim religion is fucked up, what's so bigoted about that? I think most religions are fucked up but the muslim religion being the worst of the bunch. I don't wish any of them dead as you have accused me of, but there's no question that without religion there'd be a lot less wars and a lot less dead people.
 
 
 And you are the biggest user of the broad brush. It's just your bigotry and hatred is obviously targeted towards the British.
I have nothing against the British, you obviously completely missed the point (just like you missed picking up any knowledge from your travels).  I was applying your exact attitude to a group you were familiar with, so you would understand how you come off.  Didn't think I'd have to spell that out.    :D  
 
 Anyway it's time to hopefully let this sorry thread die so that's my last word on the matter. [/b]
And I think you missed my point, I simply used your logic and spun it back at you, and hopefully you realized how stupid it was. You translated "I think the muslim way of life is fucked up" into "I want all muslims dead"
 
 Maybe my knowledge learned while in these muslim counries brought me to the opnion that I think it's a fucked up way of life, and why is it that feeling that someones religion/beliefs/way of life is wrong makes someone a bigot/racist?
 
 Incidently, have you spent any time visiting a muslim state?
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Post by: eldred24 on May 14, 2007, 10:55:00 am
You two need to go get a room.
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Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 14, 2007, 10:59:00 am
It's good to see you made your first post after nine months of being registered a good one!
 
 
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  You two need to go get a room.
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Post by: eldred24 on May 14, 2007, 11:11:00 am
Not a problem.
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Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 14, 2007, 11:19:00 am
So what are your favorite albums of 2007 so far?
 
 
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  Not a problem.
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Post by: eldred24 on May 14, 2007, 11:23:00 am
I am more of a country fan myself, I would have to say the new album Tim McGraw released last month, a masterpiece.
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Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on May 14, 2007, 11:36:00 am
Elron Hubbard?    :eek:
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Post by: on May 14, 2007, 11:37:00 am
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
  Elron Hubbard?     :eek:  
...More like Old Mother Hubbard
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Post by: sonickteam2 on May 14, 2007, 11:43:00 am
dont make fun of Joe Smith!!!!!
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Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on May 14, 2007, 11:49:00 am
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  dont make fun of Joe Smith!!!!!
<img src="http://www.gumbopages.com/looka/images/joesmith.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Post by: on May 14, 2007, 12:11:00 pm
...more like this:
 
  <img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/team_dupek/0511sphinx.jpg" alt=" - " />
  The Joseph Smith Head Sphinx
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Post by: eldred24 on May 14, 2007, 12:23:00 pm
Nice posts, very funny.
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Post by: xneverwherex on May 14, 2007, 02:30:00 pm
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Originally posted by Psychoda alternata:
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 It was free pizza day at work on Friday.  They asked the employees what kind they wanted.  The Afrikan American Moslem girl said, "No Pork."  So everyone else got stuck with cheese only pizza.  She should have said she didn't want any pizza.  I felt like shoving a pepperoini slice down her gob so she could fry in Moslem hell.  Just for that I'm gonna visit all Moslem gravesites in my neighborhood and shove a piece of raw bacon in the dirt above their heathen corpses just for making me deal with their daily crap.  I think I'm going to carry a jar of Bacos with me wherever I go from now on.
 
 Fucking Muslims!
 
 
i was going to abstain from responding, but this REALLY pissed me off. So, this girl (whether for religious reasons or any other f'ing reason she may have) decides she doesn't want pork on her pizza. I don't eat pork either. Its not really anyone's business why I don't eat it, but I don't. Why shouldn't I get a choice on what I want, even tho it might not be what you wanted? For all you know, I'm a vegetarian.
 
 The company should just order 2 damn pizzas and be done with it.
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Post by: Celeste on May 14, 2007, 02:34:00 pm
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Originally posted by Psychoda alternata:
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 It was free pizza day at work on Friday.  They asked the employees what kind they wanted.  The Afrikan American Moslem girl said, "No Pork."  So everyone else got stuck with cheese only pizza.  She should have said she didn't want any pizza.  I felt like shoving a pepperoini slice down her gob so she could fry in Moslem hell.  Just for that I'm gonna visit all Moslem gravesites in my neighborhood and shove a piece of raw bacon in the dirt above their heathen corpses just for making me deal with their daily crap.  I think I'm going to carry a jar of Bacos with me wherever I go from now on.
 
 Fucking Muslims!
 
 
i was going to abstain from responding, but this REALLY pissed me off. So, this girl (whether for religious reasons or any other f'ing reason she may have) decides she doesn't want pork on her pizza. I don't eat pork either. Its not really anyone's business why I don't eat it, but I don't. Why shouldn't I get a choice on what I want, even tho it might not be what you wanted? For all you know, I'm a vegetarian.
 
 The company should just order 2 damn pizzas and be done with it. [/b]
I agree...and what about the Jews? Everybody loves them and hard-core ones don't eat pork, either. But, even so, I think the original poster was being facetious.
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Post by: vansmack on May 14, 2007, 02:48:00 pm
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
  From my experience with Muslims, I've found that, very generally speaking, there are two types. 1) The type that Mankie speaks of who believe that everyone outside of their beliefs should be destroyed. 2) Those who have chosen the Muslim way and respect all others as individuals who just think differently but deserve to be respected and treated as they wish themselves to be treated. Like any other group, the bad apples cast a bad shadow over the whole.
I know where you were going with this, and it's a respectable stance (especially on this board these days), however, I think you do the female gender a disservice by forgetting about the part of that second group you described that treat women as second class citizens compared to their male counterparts.  
 
 Even in Turkey (perhaps the most modern of Islamist countries), they are struggling to end Honor Killings (where men of the family are asked to kill female members of the family who are said to have dishonored the family by virtue of getting pregnant out of wedlock, wearing revealing clothing, or not agreeing to an arranged marraige).  I don't think we can turn a blind eye to the women of Islam because we should respect others who wish to think differently.
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Post by: ggw on May 14, 2007, 03:04:00 pm
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
  I don't eat pork
And you wonder why you're single.....??
Title: Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 14, 2007, 03:14:00 pm
I don't eat pork either...or any other kind of meat for that matter, so we just get one plain and one pepperoni pizza and everyone's happy. Quite simple really.
 
 And while I'm at it, what's with this kosher nonesense? NEWSFLASH we don't have to eat off wooden bowls and there's this great new invention called dishwashing liquid these days. meat and dairy my arse!!!
 
 Smackie...do you want all Turks dead? Just asking...  ;)
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Post by: xneverwherex on May 14, 2007, 03:16:00 pm
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
  I don't eat pork
And you wonder why you're single.....?? [/b]
hahahah! nice one! i walked right into that one i suppose! but if theyre circumsized...it must mean theyre kosher   :D
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Post by: ggw on May 14, 2007, 03:17:00 pm
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
  And while I'm at it, what's with this kosher nonesense?
It's basically a protection racket run by the Kosher Nostra (http://www.aztlan.net/koshernostra.htm).
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 14, 2007, 03:26:00 pm
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
   
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
     
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
  I don't eat pork
And you wonder why you're single.....?? [/b]
hahahah! nice one! i walked right into that one i suppose! but if theyre circumsized...it must mean theyre tiny    :D  [/b]
I heard the same from a jewish ex-girlfriend.
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Post by: on May 14, 2007, 03:40:00 pm
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
 I don't eat pork either. Its not really anyone's business why I don't eat it
How about Hebrew National Polish sausage?
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Post by: Frank Gallagher on May 14, 2007, 04:09:00 pm
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Originally posted by Psychoda alternata:
   
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Originally posted by xneverwherex:
 I don't eat pork either. Its not really anyone's business why I don't eat it
How about Hebrew National Polish sausage? [/b]
They answer to a higher authority you know.