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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: andyrichter on January 12, 2005, 01:49:00 pm
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check www.whfs.com (http://www.whfs.com)
then check this out
http://www.dcrtv.org/ (http://www.dcrtv.org/)
January 12, 2005 INFINITY BROADCASTING LAUNCHES SPANISH-LANGUAGE STATION IN WASHINGTON, D.C. "El Zol" 99.1 FM To Feature A Mix Of Salsa, Merengue and Bachata..... Infinity Broadcasting announced today the launch of a new Spanish-language radio station in Washington, D.C. "El Zol" 99.1 WHFS-FM will play a current hit blend of Caribbean and Central American dance music and is targeted to adults 25-54. The station launched today at 12:00 Noon. Spanish Broadcasting System, Inc. served as a consultant to and advised Infinity on the reformatting of the station. Infinity previously announced a joint strategic alliance with SBS in October 2004 which included an equity interest in the largest Hispanic-controlled radio broadcasting company in the United States. "We have made clear our desire to expand into this burgeoning market and believe this move marks an important step in our commitment to Spanish radio," said Joel Hollander, President and Chief Operating Officer, Infinity Broadcasting. "There exists a tremendous opportunity for Infinity to launch a Spanish-language format in Washington, D.C. where almost 10% of the population is not being directly served. El Zol will be the most powerful Spanish radio station in the area and will provide listeners with the music, entertainment and information relevant to the many segments of the Latino culture." The Hispanic population in Washington, D.C. has grown more than 25% in the last four years to an excess of 400,000, and is expected to continue to be the fastest growing segment of the metro area in the coming years. During the station's initial launch phase, El Zol will play hits from such artists as Juan Luis Guerra, Marc Anthony, Hermanos Rosario, Monchy Y Alexandra, and Victor Manuelle, among others. On-air personalities will be announced at a later date. Infinity is one of the largest major-market radio operators in the United States, with stations covering the news, modern rock, oldies, country, FM talk, classic rock and urban formats, among others. A division of Viacom Inc. (NYSE: VIA and VIAB), Infinity operates 183 radio stations, the majority of which are in the nation's top 50 markets and reach more than 70 million listeners a week. Additionally, Infinity is home to 29 of the country's leading sports franchises amongst MLB, the NFL, the NBA and the NHL.
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This is for the best. It was time to put WHFS to rest now that it had completely tarnished its legacy beyond all recognition.
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Umm I just came back for lunch and was listening to the radio, I thought it was a joke.......
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Wow.
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was there a mention of this before this article was written? i don't remember hearing anything about this.
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The Spanish Armada has fought off the British Navy!
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Originally posted by bellenseb:
This is for the best. It was time to put WHFS to rest now that it had completely tarnished its legacy beyond all recognition.
I agree. The whole "alternative" moniker they've attached to their name has been the biggest running joke in a long time. Now all we got to do is run DC101 off the air and people will actually have to go out of their way to find good music. Good times all around!
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Should have tried the ADD Hour.
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wow. that was sudden. won't bother me none.
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Pretty obvious they weren't making much money with the station. Target audience of 11-21 year olds and giving away half the tickets to their big events, I can see why it finally bellied up!
It hasn't been the same "True" alternative station since the day Dameon left...
MindCage
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
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Did Damian actually play good music on WHFS? When he went to WRNR, he played mostly crap there (compared to the other dj's), and it was music of his own choosing.
Now WRNR is crap, but I've discovered www.wtmd.org (http://www.wtmd.org) from Towson to be pretty good.
Originally posted by MindCage:
Pretty obvious they weren't making much money with the station. Target audience of 11-21 year olds and giving away half the tickets to their big events, I can see why it finally bellied up!
It hasn't been the same "True" alternative station since the day Dameon left...
MindCage
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
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WhooHoo! Now we may actually get tickets for shows instead of having to kiss the asses of the 99.1 screeners to even attempt to get tix to certain shows.
Good effing riddance! I have not listened to 99.1 in years...so hopefully this trend will continue and soon Don and Mike, Elliott and a few others will finally be moved from the airwaves!
Glad I have my XM radio...opie and anthony make my morning and I still need to find a solid channel for music during the afternoons...but I will settle for this.
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WTF??? I just won a Dell laptop from them last week, but haven't been given any info on when/where I can pick it up....I'll be uber pissed if I don't get it!
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Dave Hughes, DCRTV's sole proprietor, has been predicting this for at least two years. Having been a reader of DCRTV for at least six years, this is absolutely no surprise to me, not even the suddenness.
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Originally posted by andyrichter:
Originally posted by bellenseb:
This is for the best. It was time to put WHFS to rest now that it had completely tarnished its legacy beyond all recognition.
I agree. The whole "alternative" moniker they've attached to their name has been the biggest running joke in a long time. Now all we got to do is run DC101 off the air and people will actually have to go out of their way to find good music. Good times all around! [/b]
this will never happen... too many people want to be spoon fed thier music.
All this ensures is that artists like The White Stripes will never even have the slightest chance of breaking on the radio as the number of outlets is shirking. Rock, Alternative, Classic Rock Radio stations just become even narrowier in thier programming.
Unless a Z104 type station picks up an "rock" act and plops in the mainstream its business as usual. I'm thinking Modest Mouse, Scissor Sisters...
Not really hard to believe given how much rack space is given to Spanish language artists in the big retailers like Circuit City and Target.
Eventually DVDs will push out all but the chart toppers and popular niche stuff out of the Big Boxes.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
All this ensures is that artists like The White Stripes will never even have the slightest chance of breaking on the radio as the number of outlets is shirking. Rock, Alternative, Classic Rock Radio stations just become even narrowier in thier programming.
Exactly, it's just forcing people like us to turn off their radios, save for the news stations, and go online. I was more bummed at WOXY going off the air for two months last year until they came back as an online-only outfit.
That said, I did have some good times listening to HFS when I was a kid...but that was a looong time ago.
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Originally posted by bbbsmith:
WhooHoo! Now we may actually get tickets for shows instead of having to kiss the asses of the 99.1 screeners to even attempt to get tix to certain shows.
Since HFS and DC101's playlists have been pretty similar in recent years, expect them to pick up the slack. :p
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No more hfstival......
How will I ever get to see Good Charlotte ever again?
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the "alternative" audience the HFS targeted, albeit not recently, are now listening to better music on their iPods and/or XM whilst driving in the car...commercial radio is no longer a smart ad market for the Gen X'ers. another death knell for the corporate scum commercial radio monopoly. personally, i'm glad someone finally shot HFS like the lame mule it was.
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Originally posted by joz:
another death knell for the corporate scum commercial radio monopoly. personally, i'm glad someone finally shot HFS like the lame mule it was.
It's not like they brought you a happy alternative. Corporate simply thought they could make more money with a spanish channel. This is no victory - not by a long shot.
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Originally posted by Winterie Markie:
No more hfstival......
How will I ever get to see Good Charlotte ever again?
I think the bigger question is, will Good Charlotte ever be able to give a shout out to WHFS again at their concerts?
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I'd choose to listen to salsa music over what WHFS was playing in a heartbeat.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by joz:
another death knell for the corporate scum commercial radio monopoly. personally, i'm glad someone finally shot HFS like the lame mule it was.
It's not like they brought you a happy alternative. Corporate simply thought they could make more money with a spanish channel. This is no victory - not by a long shot. [/b]
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Originally posted by andyrichter:
]I think the bigger question is, will Good Charlotte ever be able to give a shout out to WHFS again at their concerts?
If you listen carefully I am sure in the future at least one time they will thank WHF...(um ummm)....101.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'd choose to listen to salsa music over what WHFS was playing in a heartbeat.
Congratulations, but I'm still quite sure that you didn't your top choice (or even anything in the top 5), now did you?
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by joz:
another death knell for the corporate scum commercial radio monopoly. personally, i'm glad someone finally shot HFS like the lame mule it was.
It's not like they brought you a happy alternative. Corporate simply thought they could make more money with a spanish channel. This is no victory - not by a long shot. [/b]
preparing for flamage...
i don't think iPOD/XM has really targeted the latino population with their marketing...once they do, maybe they will wise up too and stop listening to the drivel on commercial radio. furthermore, a lot of latinos are not in the financial position to buy pricey MP3 players (not to mention the computers that go with them) and XM satellite radios. that, of course, is the unfortunate repercussion of being amongst the undereducated and underpaid in america (different topic altogether so we'll stop there).
certainly the number of kitchens in dc restaurants blasting the new salsa channel is music to the corporate scum's ears. i know it may be a generalization but there's a captive audience there. some of my friends are chefs and have been working in dc for years...the radio stations of choice in dc kitchens are latino. case in point.
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Originally posted by joz:
preparing for flamage...
i don't think iPOD/XM has really targeted the latino population with their marketing...once they do, maybe they will wise up too and stop listening to the drivel on commercial radio. furthermore, a lot of latinos are not in the financial position to buy pricey MP3 players (not to mention the computers that go with them) and XM satellite radios. that, of course, is the unfortunate repercussion of being amongst the undereducated and underpaid in america (different topic altogether so we'll stop there).
certainly the number of kitchens in dc restaurants blasting the new salsa channel is music to the corporate scum's ears. i know it may be a generalization but there's a captive audience there. some of my friend's are chefs and have been working in dc for years...the radio stations of choice in dc kitchens are latino. case in point.
so how is making money off somebody else "another death knell for the corporate scum commercial radio monopoly?"
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wonder what will happen to the format of the smaller spanish stations in the area. i'm thinking a smartly programmed station of the best 80s, 90s and OCs to appeal to thoes GenXers seeking a break from thier iPods :)
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Either my reading comprehension sucks, or your English sucks.
Don't fret, there will still be stations to hear U2 and Gwen Stefani when you visit DC.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'd choose to listen to salsa music over what WHFS was playing in a heartbeat.
Congratulations, but I'm still quite sure that you didn't your top choice (or even anything in the top 5), now did you? [/b]
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I still loved HFS -- warts and all, but the station is not the biggest loss. I'll raise a glass tonight to the passing of the HFStival. What the hell are we going to do on Memorial Day weekend now?
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Like a Rap-metal playing,rabies infested dog, it was time to put this station down......hasta la vista!
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I'll be in either camping in Big Sur or hanging out in Santa Cruz.
Originally posted by keithcu:
I still loved HFS -- warts and all, but the station is not the biggest loss. I'll raise a glass tonight to the passing of the HFStival. What the hell are we going to do on Memorial Day weekend now?
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I think you missed my point, joz.
People are celebrating the end of HFS. Great, you didn't approve of their music selection. But it's not like they heard you and started playing music from your top 40 albums of 2004 and the music you were looking forward to hearing in 2005, let alone all of the great classics you wanted hear. As Kosmo pointed out, it will be even harder for bands to make on the radio unless they speak spainsh - how is this a good thing? Remember when Lollapallooza was cancelled in DC? This isn't going to help that either. If you think the DC music scene (most notably concerts) isn't going to suffer from this, then I'd be surprised. This extends much further then the Linkin Park crap they were playing, because there were local shows, DJ sets in late hours, and even if it were one out of every 6 songs that was good - that's still better than nothing.
Which say s nothing of a lack of competition for DC 101 to play whatever they feel like because there can be no ratings comparison any longer because there is no alternative.
I think you're all a little to over excited about this - they didn't give you what you wanted.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'll be in either camping in Big Sur or hanging out in Santa Cruz.
o much for the city
Tell me that you'll dance to the end
Just tell me that you'll dance to the end
Hey, hey you're the monkees
People said you monkeyed around
But nobody's listening now
Just don't go back to Big Sur
Hangin' around, lettin' your old man down
Just don't go back to Big Sur
Baby baby please don't go
So much for the street lights
They're never gonna guide you home
No they're never gonna guide you home
Down at the steam boat show,
All the kids start spittin'
I guess it didn't live up to the billing.
Just don't go back to Big Sur
Hangin' around, lettin' your old man down
Just don't go back to Big Sur
Baby baby please don't go
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Originally posted by pollard:
so how is making money off somebody else "another death knell for the corporate scum commercial radio monopoly?"
notice how often commercial radio stations are switching formats lately? they're scrambling to find their niche as the rug is slowly being pulled from under them by the advent of personal mp3 players, streaming internet radio and satellite radio...how many people on this forum listen to radio stations in their car on a daily basis (with the exception of NPR-affiliated stations, C-SPAN, college radio)? i'd be curious to know...i, for one, generally listen to the iPod, NPR or pop in a CD.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Either my reading comprehension sucks, or your English sucks.
I left out an important word "get", but you could have figured that out with a little work:
Congratulations, but I'm still quite sure that you didn't get your top choice (or even anything in the top 5), now did you?
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Originally posted by keithcu:
What the hell are we going to do on Memorial Day weekend now?
Nu metal kids and 10th graders everywhere across the D.C. area share your sentiment. They'll have to spend time with their families from now on! :eek:
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Originally posted by joz:
notice how often commercial radio stations are switching formats lately? they're scrambling to find their niche as the rug is slowly being pulled from under them by the advent of personal mp3 players, streaming internet radio and satellite radio...how many people on this forum listen to radio stations in their car on a daily basis (with the exception of NPR-affiliated stations, C-SPAN, college radio)? i'd be curious to know...i, for one, generally listen to the iPod, NPR or pop in a CD.
this forum is hardly the place to be looking for mainstream trends in music
have you noticed that the Hispanic population has been growing in the United States?
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What will happen to Weasel?
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Weasel's been on 94.7 for a while now.
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lol. this is hilarious.
times are a changing and hopefully this will open a door for a new channel to grasp a new audience and change music and radio in Baltimore and DC for the better
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speaking of 94.7, another Infinity-owned station - some time in 2003, if i recall the date correctly, they hinted on-air that they would be turning into a spanish music station the next day. for that one day, a lot of their between-song segues were in spanish, and one of the dj's said something to the effect of "i know a lot of you are wondering what is going on, but all i can say is we're not really sure ourselves, but we may have details soon." nothing changed, though.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Don't fret, there will still be stations to hear U2 and Gwen Stefani when you visit DC.
And you will never get your Alt-Country radio station in DC, and that was exactly my point.
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Check out:
www.whfs.com (http://www.whfs.com)
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Good riddance. They were cool twelve years ago.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
lol. this is hilarious.
times are a changing and hopefully this will open a door for a new channel to grasp a new audience and change music and radio in Baltimore and DC for the better
let's try getting a decent college station in the area first...dc has a handful of universities and no decent college radio? at least none that i can find on the dial. (and WAMU doesn't count!) the closest college radio station to even be mentionable is in harrisonburg, va. pathetic.
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There *is* a really cool alt. country station in DC -- XM 12
And there is also a really cool college station here.... XM 43
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
Check out:
www.whfs.com (http://www.whfs.com)
i must get one of those bumper stickers...what a great logo?!?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'll be in either camping in Big Sur or hanging out in Santa Cruz.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Either my reading comprehension sucks, or your English sucks.
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any other salsa fans in here?
*crickets*
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
There *is* a really cool alt. country station in DC -- XM 12
And there is also a really cool college station here.... XM 43
Just like the way cable and satellite TV didn't spell the end of network TV, Satellite Radio and MP3 Players are not going to spell the end of broadcast radio.
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did anyone happen to be listening (or know anyone who was) at the exact time when the format switched over? were they playing the killers and then in the middle of the song it changed? could be sort of funny.
and as for college radio, the UMD station, WMUC, is really good. unfortunately, it's hard to pick up even in certain dorms on campus.
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They are the end of terrestrial radio.
This is the end, beautiful friend, this is the end, my only friend, the end, spelled:
X M
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
Good riddance. They were cool twelve years ago.
>>>They were cool,alright....when they were 102.3 WHFS in Bethesda!.....if you never heard it,you'll never know........
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Originally posted by SalParadise:
any other salsa fans in here?
*crickets*
1 (28 ounce) can diced tomatoes
1 green bell pepper, diced
1/4 cup minced red onion
1/4 cup minced fresh cilantro
1 tablespoon adobo sauce from canned chipotle peppers
1 tablespoon chopped fresh tarragon
1/2 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons balsamic vinegar
DIRECTIONS:
In a bowl, toss together the tomatoes, bell pepper, onion, cilantro, adobo sauce, tarragon, and vinegar. Season to taste with salt, cover, and refrigerate at least 30 minutes.
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Originally posted by joz:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
lol. this is hilarious.
times are a changing and hopefully this will open a door for a new channel to grasp a new audience and change music and radio in Baltimore and DC for the better
let's try getting a decent college station in the area first...dc has a handful of universities and no decent college radio? at least none that i can find on the dial. (and WAMU doesn't count!) the closest college radio station to even be mentionable is in harrisonburg, va. pathetic. [/b]
something!!! maybe it wont even be one station, but maybe a few stations will fluorish, if even for a short time, and then new ones popping back up. it could be exciting times for dc/bmore radio ahead!
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the best thing that goes with the hfs is the hfstival... why you ask? because the hfstival is nothing unique. most major markets have some sort of radio festival in the spring and winter, meaning several "it" bands are out there selling their wares. now if some savvy local promoter would come and cherry pick the best of those bands and put on his own festival, at say merriweather, life could be all good.
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Agreed. I've heard and been introduced to a lot of great stuff on WMUC. The reception is terrible but it can be streamed online.
Originally posted by BookerT:
did anyone happen to be listening (or know anyone who was) at the exact time when the format switched over? were they playing the killers and then in the middle of the song it changed? could be sort of funny.
and as for college radio, the UMD station, WMUC, is really good. unfortunately, it's hard to pick up even in certain dorms on campus.
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
the best thing that goes with the hfs is the hfstival... why you ask? because the hfstival is nothing unique.
It used to be, though. Not many other large festivals had the Afghan Whigs on the bill.
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I like their motto
Siempre de fiesta
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Originally posted by Ryan:
I like their motto
Siempre de fiesta
always a party baby!!!!
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Has that travesty of a festival even had a decent lineup since the Ramones played?
Originally posted by keithcu:
I still loved HFS -- warts and all, but the station is not the biggest loss. I'll raise a glass tonight to the passing of the HFStival. What the hell are we going to do on Memorial Day weekend now?
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
now if some savvy local promoter would come and cherry pick the best of those bands and put on his own festival, at say merriweather, life could be all good.
word, ideal. let's just hope merriweather stays alive long enough to see this happen.
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
They are the end of terrestrial radio.
Right. 20 Million+ Digital Cable Subscibers, 18 Million Satellite Suscribers, countless Analog Cable subscribers and yet NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX and a smattering of other smaller networks still exist after 20 years.
Yet 3 Million Satellite Radio subscribers are are going put an end to Infinity (Parent Viacom) and Clear Channel?
Do you work for XM?
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quick!!!
everyone to the hfstival.com message board, it'll be like slowing down to look at a car wreck!
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Even though we pretty much all agree that HFS sucked, can we really picture it not being there? I think this change is really going to have a negative effect on the music scene; this is a top 10 market without an alternative (ish) radio station now? I'm from Baltimore and can't pick up a lot of the smaller DC stations well.
I've also heard that radio stations aren't supposed to tell when they're switching over; remember when The X became Froggy?
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Originally posted by Dahlia:
Even though we pretty much all agree that HFS sucked, can we really picture it not being there? I think this change is really going to have a negative effect on the music scene; this is a top 10 market without an alternative (ish) radio station now?
true. do all those "HFS sponsored" shows now not even come to the area?
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Very few, if any of those hfs sponsored shows were worth seeing anyway.
Take the most recent one at 9:30 for example. o.a.r.? No thanks.
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HFS sucked. All modern rock radio sucks.
If i may quote Chad Ginsburg of CKY:
"IGNORE MODERN ROCK RADIO. IT IGNORES YOU."
and he is damn right.
Today is a good day. Hopefully people will realize that.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Very few, if any of those hfs sponsored shows were worth seeing anyway.
If I recall correctly, both the Muse and Interpol shows last November carried the "sponsored by WHFS" label.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
quick!!!
everyone to the hfstival.com message board, it'll be like slowing down to look at a car wreck!
That is so funny, I could kiss you!
BTW:
"Connection Problems
Sorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by the server being busy. Please try again later."
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Thus, giving more creditability to his statement.
Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Very few, if any of those hfs sponsored shows were worth seeing anyway.
If I recall correctly, both the Muse and Interpol shows last November carried the "sponsored by WHFS" label. [/b]
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Originally posted by Random Citizen:
If I recall correctly, the Interpol show last November carried the "sponsored by WHFS" label.
Gee, and they're skipping DC this time around.....
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Thus, giving more creditability to his statement.
Just a thought...if you can't spell credibility, perhaps you shouldn't talk about it?
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Come on lets face it, modern rock has become totally marginalised. Look at the top 10 artists or albums. The populous are not interested in rock.
RnR is dead.
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Do stations usually play material by the artists they sponsor?I haven't listened in a while but I have trouble believing that HFS played any interpol.
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good bye...I used to like you (about 12-17 years ago) but then you started to change and the relationship went sour.
I'm so glad you're gone. Maybe there will be less people spilling beer on me at Muse shows now. One can only hope.....
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Jeez, give a guy a chance to take a piss and then correct his mistake.
Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Thus, giving more creditability to his statement.
Just a thought...if you can't spell credibility, perhaps you shouldn't talk about it? [/b]
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i guess the best we can hope for the music scene radio-wise is that a new station will step in and cover the gap as well as promoting shows, but that probably won't happen for a while. what rock-ish stations are still around besides 98 Rock? *gag*
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Could they possibly use the name HFStival and put on a latin artist fest? :-)
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www.wrnr.com (http://www.wrnr.com)
www.wtmd.org (http://www.wtmd.org)
Originally posted by Dahlia:
i guess the best we can hope for the music scene radio-wise is that a new station will step in and cover the gap as well as promoting shows, but that probably won't happen for a while. what rock-ish stations are still around besides 98 Rock? *gag*
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Originally posted by Dahlia:
what rock-ish stations are still around besides 98 Rock? *gag*
only the best!
http://dc101.com/ (http://dc101.com/)
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no, i don't work for xm
and it's clear you don't have it, or you'd be singing a different tune.
XM is a total replacement for terrestrial radio. if you have it, you don't go back. period. why would you?
the business model of terrestrial radio doesn't work, they can't program enough quality in a niche and get enough listeners in a given city to support advertising. terrestrial radio has already lost million of listeners to downloading. satellite is the final nail in the coffin.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Jeez, give a guy a chance to take a piss and then correct his mistake.
Like adding the word "get"?
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Could they possibly use the name HFStival and put on a latin artist fest? :-)
hfstival.org is calling it the zolfiesta, take a look for the fun of hostility toward latinos!
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
www.wrnr.com (http://www.wrnr.com)
doesn't come in clear :(
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
XM is a total replacement for terrestrial radio. if you have it, you don't go back. period. why would you?
$$$
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i remember when HFS was only on sunday afaternoons after a gospel show..
bout time they retired it....its been horrible for many years now.
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
no, i don't work for xm
and it's clear you don't have it, or you'd be singing a different tune.
XM is a total replacement for terrestrial radio. if you have it, you don't go back. period. why would you?
the business model of terrestrial radio doesn't work, they can't program enough quality in a niche and get enough listeners in a given city to support advertising. terrestrial radio has already lost million of listeners to downloading. satellite is the final nail in the coffin.
Wrong again, I have it.
Do you own a car?
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Originally posted by BookerT:
did anyone happen to be listening
I got an IM from Bob Waugh at about 11:55 that something was going down. I turned on the radio. they were playing "Last Goodbye" by Jeff Buckley. it faded out. there was about a minute of silence.
and thenâ?¦
OLA!!!
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WKHS (http://home.comcast.net/~skramarck/wkhspage.htm)
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The last minute of WHFS (http://www.hfstival.com/elzol.mp3)
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
and thenâ?¦
OLA!!! [/b]
That made me giggle, thanks!
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Even WRNR isn't worth the time of day anymore for most people on this board nowadays.
Come on, any station that plays "Accidentally in Love" by Counting Crows needs to go away, I say.
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Originally posted by Random Citizen:
The last minute of WHFS (http://www.hfstival.com/elzol.mp3)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What song was playing?
ohhhhhhh.......then some white dude goes whfs, annapolis
then thousands of confused alterative teens hear..........la ciudad capital esta nueva rapido capital! noventa y nueva uno!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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i just tuned in out of curiosity.
wow, that's pretty bad. they're not even playing salsa...just really syrupy ballads.
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I still fail to see why this is a good thing. Even if you think WHFS sucked, this opens the door for DC101 to shove crap like Three Days Grace, Crossfade and Future Leaders of the World down people's throats without having to worry about someone else horning in on the Washington D.C. rock market.
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The only reason that I can find to mourn WHFS's demise is that it was one of the few non-Clear Channel stations out there. I'm firmly convinced that CC is the bane of good music today and the reason we're being fed so much homogeneous crap.
My biggest fear is that we'll start to lose out on some decent concerts. Will bands like the Scissor Sisters play DC on their first national tour? Or will they bypass us and concentrate on bigger markets where they might actually get some airplay?
F**k Clear Channel... :mad:
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
and thenâ?¦
OLA!!!
I (as well as others, I'm sure) would be interested in your take on these events for the DC music scene, if you've got a spare minute.
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Breaking news: they put cd players in cars now. You don't have to listen to the radio at all. People that listen to crap are going to listen to crap anyway, no matter who is doing the shoving.
Originally posted by fuzzy510:
I still fail to see why this is a good thing. Even if you think WHFS sucked, this opens the door for DC101 to shove crap like Three Days Grace, Crossfade and Future Leaders of the World down people's throats without having to worry about someone else horning in on the Washington D.C. rock market.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Breaking news: they put cd players in cars now. You don't have to listen to the radio at all. People that listen to crap are going to listen to crap anyway, no matter who is doing the shoving.
Originally posted by fuzzy510:
I still fail to see why this is a good thing. Even if you think WHFS sucked, this opens the door for DC101 to shove crap like Three Days Grace, Crossfade and Future Leaders of the World down people's throats without having to worry about someone else horning in on the Washington D.C. rock market.
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wow...for once, i really agree with rhett. sheep will always be sheep. and people who are on this forum that really "love" RnR shouldn't have been listening to HFS in the first place, at least not since the early 90s.
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Originally posted by xcanuck:
The only reason that I can find to mourn WHFS's demise is that it was one of the few non-Clear Channel stations out there. I'm firmly convinced that CC is the bane of good music today and the reason we're being fed so much homogeneous crap.
My biggest fear is that we'll start to lose out on some decent concerts. Will bands like the Scissor Sisters play DC on their first national tour? Or will they bypass us and concentrate on bigger markets where they might actually get some airplay?
F**k Clear Channel... :mad:
Relax. So you think just because a station that was playing Linkin Park and Good Charlotte all day goes off the air, all of a sudden all these acts are going straight for Baltiomre and Richmond? Not likely. DC is still a huge market for any up and coming or big act to ignore.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Breaking news: they put cd players in cars now. You don't have to listen to the radio at all. People that listen to crap are going to listen to crap anyway, no matter who is doing the shoving.
hear hear!! i have had my car stereo/mp3 player for 3 years now, and i havent programmed ONE single FM channel in it yet. and i dont plan to.
(i have AM1090 and AM1300 though)
even XM radio sucks. get an mp3 player and you listen to what you want, when you want.
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here's some karmaâ?¦
just went to see how many posts there were to this topic and it saidâ?¦
101
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it wasn't a planned format change, Pancho Villa and his merry men stormed in on horses and sheep and slayed everyone in sight and took it over themselves.
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i've never used satellite radio so i'm not going to knock it or pretend i know much about it, but one thing i like about fm is that it kinda gives you a bond to other people in the area - even if you're complaining that it sucks you still have something in common to bitch about at parties - and it gives you immediate information about upcoming shows, overdoses, whatever.
someone who speaks spanish should call up 99.1 and be like "what the..." or call infinity. as much as most ppl were like HFS SUCKS, IT SHOULD GO! it can be assumed that they meant "be replaced with something better" rather than "hasta el sol siempre!"
but i guess there's nothing we can really do rather than petition for a better station or existing stations to play better music, which probably includes getting off the internet and doing things in person.
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and hey, what's the guy who does the HFS voice going to do for a living now???
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movie trailers
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move to Ireland and sell Fords.
Originally posted by Dahlia:
and hey, what's the guy who does the HFS voice going to do for a living now???
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Originally posted by Dahlia:
even if you're complaining that it sucks you still have something in common to bitch about at parties - and it gives you immediate information about upcoming shows, overdoses, whatever.
wow. i can't think of the last time i listened to a radio station for upcoming show information...or for "overdose" updates for that matter.
who od'ed today? guess i better flip on the radio.
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Originally posted by Dahlia:
i've never used satellite radio so i'm not going to knock it or pretend i know much about it, but one thing i like about fm is that it kinda gives you a bond to other people in the area - even if you're complaining that it sucks you still have something in common to bitch about at parties - and it gives you immediate information about upcoming shows, overdoses, whatever.
I do fine on upcoming show info on these 4 sites:
www.pollstar.com (http://www.pollstar.com)
www.ticketmaster.com (http://www.ticketmaster.com)
www.930.com (http://www.930.com)
www.blackcatdc.com (http://www.blackcatdc.com)
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you forgot www.pheer.com (http://www.pheer.com)
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Unless a Z104 type station picks up an "rock" act and plops in the mainstream its business as usual. I'm thinking Modest Mouse, Scissor Sisters...
it might just be me, but i've found that z104 plays modest mouse a ton.
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Washington Post article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4390-2005Jan12.html)
WHFS Abruptly Changes Format
Pioneering Alternative Rock Station Now Spanish-Language
By Teresa Wiltz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 12, 2005; 4:48 PM
The Washington-area FM radio station WHFS, long a pioneering purveyor of alternative rock, did a programming U-turn at noon today by ditching the genre for a Spanish-language, Latin music format featuring middle-of-the-road superstars such as Marc Anthony and Juan Luis Guerra.
WHFS-FM 99.1, the radio station behind the popular alt rock music festival called "HFStival," is now "El Zol," featuring Caribbean and Central American music, according to a prepared statement released by Infinity Broadcasting, the station's owner.
Spanish Broadcasting System, Inc., the nation's largest Latino-controlled radio broadcasting company, served as a consultant on the reformatting of the station. Infinity and SBS have formed an alliance, with Infinity owning an equity interest in the Florida-based company.
The abrupt switch came as a shock. Since 1969, WHFS has served as the arbiter of cutting-edge rock in the Washington area, introducing listeners to acts such the Cure and the Violent Femmes.
The HFStival has grown from an offbeat spring festival to a nationally-recognized Bacchanalia that last year offered 36 musical acts spread out over three stages and a techno hideaway called the Buzz Tent.
"Certainly this will have major ramifications for new music in Washington, D.C., said Seth Hurwitz, the owner of the city's 9:30 Club and producer of last year's HFStival, which drew 65,000 fans to RFK Stadium in May.
"They were always the forerunner for presenting new music," he said of WHFS. "They were a vital fabric of Washington's culture."
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Originally posted by atrophy:
you forgot www.pheer.com (http://www.pheer.com)
my bad. this is the best site hands down for your local and national punk/metal/hardcore shows.
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But do they play any Luis Miguel?
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
But do they play any Luis Miguel?
I don't know about that but if they don't play any menudo, there's gonna be hell to pay.
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MENUDO.
lets call and request Menudo....with every free second you have!
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Originally posted by Summerteeth:
Even WRNR isn't worth the time of day anymore for most people on this board nowadays.
Come on, any station that plays "Accidentally in Love" by Counting Crows needs to go away, I say.
Agreed, maybe they will take this as their cue to clear out some of the middle of the road crap they play and liven it up a bit. WTMD could also try and take advantage of this.
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this from the chat ongoing on washingtonpost.com:
From DCRTV: Empire Scrambling To Replace HFS -- 1/12 -- A well-placed source tells DCRTV that Steve Kingston, head of Empire Broadcasting, is looking to snatch up Mega's Spanish 94.3 FM, WBPS, in Warrenton and pair it with the 94.3, currently country WINX, in the Annapolis area for a relaunched alternative rock WRNR, now that WHFS has bit the dust. WINX would move to WRNR's current 103.1 FM Annapolis area frequency.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Unless a Z104 type station picks up an "rock" act and plops in the mainstream its business as usual. I'm thinking Modest Mouse, Scissor Sisters...
it might just be me, but i've found that z104 plays modest mouse a ton. [/b]
well as always i'm clear as mud... the point was that the Z104s of the world is where a band like Modest Mouse or Scissor Sisters only chance for airplay anymore. "rock" radio certainly wouldn't pick up on them. but even then those playlists are tightly controlled and set via promotional money.
and speaking of promo money dc101 is going to be swimming in it...
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www.jambase.com (http://www.jambase.com) is also a great source for upcoming source info. And it's not limited to jambands as the site's name suggests.
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I'm very upset about this at the moment. I didn't much like the music on HFS, but I love listening to the Sports Junkies in the morning. What's going to happen to them? Do I have to brush up on my Spanish?
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So, will Dr. Drew and Adam Corolla be speaking in spanish now?
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HFieSta?
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What I'm going to say probably won't be so popular, but anyway....
Quite a few of you are thrilled HFS is gone; however, people listened to the station (as well as there are people that are now suddenly unemployed). HFS still being around had NO bearing on your personal life. The demise of the station is not going to send throngs of people to buy CD's of obscure little bands (or whatever you may wish to call good music...we all have varying tastes).
The point is...the manner that this happened was bullshit. Sure, it wasn't the best "alternative" (or even alternative at all), but at least it wasn't Britney Spears pop shit. A lot of younger people (believe it or not), have used stations such as HFS to discover wider genres (it happened to me seven years ago!)
My point is, stop with your elitist view of music, and think a little further about it. It's not a personal victory, you could just change the station. I've been listening to my iPod instead of radio lately, anyway, but seeing so much generalization and stereotype of people who actually DID listen to the station defeats the purpose of trying to show that you are a free thinker.
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Originally posted by Rupert Pupkin:
So, will Dr. Drew and Adam Corolla be speaking in spanish now?
Not until their parent station, KROQ in LA, becomes a Spanish channel. DC gets a syndicate of a show that's been going strong in LA for almost 25 years.
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Originally posted by Kat on a Hot Tin Roof:
HFS still being around had NO bearing on your personal life.
Maybe you can get Beastie Boys tickets this time around without all those HFSers getting the Password before you do!
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there's nothing elitist about disliking HFS... they were less original than the other mainstream stations, and and at the same time pretended to be more so.
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Maybe if HFS and its ilk focused on playing "obscure little bands," they wouldn't be out of business.
Bands with talent these days are determined "obscure" and "little" by the big corporate rock machine and its outlets, like HFS, which prefers to focus-group and market-test "music" for the lowest common denominator. Then they wonder why their business stinks.
It wasn't always like this. But if the same mentality that infected the music industry were prevalent fourty years ago, the Beatles and Stones would be "obscure" and "little," and music executives would be wondering why sales of Pat Boone records were slipping.
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i'm kinda tempted to call infinity and WTF-them out. i'm kinda curious about the machinations of the switch anyway. junkiesradio.com is gone too.
Originally posted by joz:
Originally posted by Dahlia:
even if you're complaining that it sucks you still have something in common to bitch about at parties - and it gives you immediate information about upcoming shows, overdoses, whatever.
wow. i can't think of the last time i listened to a radio station for upcoming show information...or for "overdose" updates for that matter.
who od'ed today? guess i better flip on the radio. [/b]
:p give me a break, i've been away for four years
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it's so fucked up. i feel like i've lost my childhood or something. what i don't understand is how can anyone throw away 40 years of alternative formatting down the drain. whfs has been a part of my family;s life for a long time. my parents listened to hfs when it was 102.3 whfs bethesda and that was back in the 1970's. as a 9 year old, i remember listening to whfs whenever i was in baltimore or dc. i really got into whfs when i was 11. the music played was just amazing. smashing pumpkins, oasis, bush, rancid, blur, radiohead, ect. no other station i knew of played stuff like that, except for the college radio station in my rural town would play it on monday nights. and well, because of whfs, i discovered a lot of great music such as depeche mode and the cure.
as a listener of the station, i had my favorite djs. unfortunately some had left in years past, but some of them were still around. i would be a regular caller for neci's shift. and i've hung out with tim virgin a few times at some 930 club shows. i think what's really tough was that i was going to be an intern for hfs this coming summer and help neci with her overnight show.
i started going to the hfstival when i was 13. i went with my parents and we saw the red hot chili peppers. it's been a tradition since 1999 for me amd my family to go to it. this past year, i had the honor of being a photographer for this year's hfstival. photographing the offspring and the cure was such an achievement for me.
i think for me i feel heart sick about it because my dream was to work for hfs. i almost had it and now it's gone. i'm not sure what i'm going to do without the hfstival each may, it was such a kickoff for my summer. i just can't help but feel like someone has taken away my childhood or youth.
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Originally posted by saintangelsin:
as a listener of the station, i had my favorite djs. unfortunately some had left in years past, but some of them were still around. i would be a regular caller for neci's shift.
Hehe...I was a regular caller during Zoltar's shift. :)
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Zoltar was the shit.
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Regardless of whther you like corporate radio, or like HFS, this move is a very very bad one. If you look at hte bigger picture, which obviously very few of you are capapble of doing, you'll see the continuing of a trend that will further puch good music to hte background. Sure HFS played a lot of shit, and has done that for quite some time. But their decline parallels the general fall of the music industry. It is not something to be celebrated, not something to cheer. Throughout all the miserableness of their programming, every once in awhile they would play a Fugazi song, or an old Echo and the Bunnymen song. And somebody heard that artist for the very first time and bought an album, or looked them up on the internet. That is a good thing that simply won't happen anymore.
I spent the past weekend in LA, listening to indie 103 and camping out in Amoeba. I said while i was there that DC could never support an Amoeba, cause too many people just don't care about music. This is a perfect example that DC can't even support a 'modern rock' station. Just think about this for a second... I know many of you don't give a fuck about DC as a whole, and are only interested in your own personal likes and dislikes. That's fine, but for those of us who actually care about what the DC music scene is becoming, this is a very bad omen. I hope someone takes up some slack on the airwaves. I have XM and listen to WOXY or KEXP and have more CDs than I can listen to being mailed to me, but it's not me I'm worried about.
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i think for me i feel heart sick about it because my dream was to work for hfs. i almost had it and now it's gone. i'm not sure what i'm going to do without the hfstival each may, it was such a kickoff for my summer. i just can't help but feel like someone has taken away my childhood or youth.
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Yea, that sucks pal.
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Holy crap. No more... Loveline? This can't be! Another station must pick it up quickly.
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Originally posted by Jagernaut:
I'm very upset about this at the moment. I didn't much like the music on HFS, but I love listening to the Sports Junkies in the morning. What's going to happen to them? Do I have to brush up on my Spanish?
Right now, they're going to go back to WJFK, even though WJFK doesn't want them...Probably won't last very long. Besides JP has a few things in the works that would be better :)
MindCage
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
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Originally posted by Kat on a Hot Tin Roof:
The point is...the manner that this happened was bullshit. Sure, it wasn't the best "alternative" (or even alternative at all), but at least it wasn't Britney Spears pop shit. A lot of younger people (believe it or not), have used stations such as HFS to discover wider genres (it happened to me seven years ago!)
Listening to Britney Spears CAN actually lead to the discovery of wider genres. But only if you live under a rock and have no idea who Britney Spears is. And listening to HFS can certainly open up your mind, if you haven't been exposed to Offspring and Limp Bizkit (is a roller coaster) a million times, which everyone has, whether they've liked it or not. The truth about HFS is, they play(ed) the same generic, unexciting music (Offspring and Limp Bizkit) that you hear everywhere else. So personally, I equated HFS with the Britney stations as far as innovation. I can actually deal with a fluffy pop station easier. The robotic, cookie-cutter djs of HFS (and the like) felt obliged every second to dutifully explain how much every new alternative rock band kicks ass, even though it would be some fifth-generation Pearl Jam soundalike.
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THE MARS VOLTA WORLD PREMERE FRANICS THE MUTE EL ZOL!! SALASA PUNXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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Originally posted by saintangelsin:
i'm not sure what i'm going to do without the hfstival each may, it was such a kickoff for my summer. i just can't help but feel like someone has taken away my childhood or youth.
I feel the same way. Even though it has gotten to be pretty shitty in the last few years, HFS was a big part of my youth. This was where I first heard the Ramones, on HFS in the early 90s. I can't believe I'll never go to another HFStival...and all my favorite DJs, gone... DC will never be the same.
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Zoltar is still around.... on XM 82.
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wow!!! what the Fuck happend? why did it change, and why?
:mad:
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
Zoltar is still around.... on XM 82.
That's great news.... for people forking out the $$$ for XM. Anybody hear anything about the other DJs? Neci?
BTW, check out www.bigoanddukes.com (http://www.bigoanddukes.com)
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I heard Zoltar on the radio in chicago a few years ago.
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Originally posted by sybercat:
Originally posted by J'Mal:
Zoltar is still around.... on XM 82.
That's great news.... for people forking out the $$$ for XM. Anybody hear anything about the other DJs? Neci?
BTW, check out www.bigoanddukes.com (http://www.bigoanddukes.com) [/b]
oh yeah, big $$$.... ten bucks a month :roll: it's like two lattes....
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What will become of the HFStival and other decent shows? They weren't perfect by any stretch, but they did have power to bring music to the area. Who can pick up that slack?
I know the clubs are where the best music happens, but kids need a place to see big events...really.
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
Zoltar is still around.... on XM 82.
<img src="http://chiaroscuro-dc.com/djs/zoltar.jpg" alt=" - " />
He also spins at the Edge on Saturdays every other week I believe for Chiaroscuro.
MindCage
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
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And isn't XM owned (in part) by the Infinity - Clear Channel nightmare?
Two days ago I heard Citizen Cope on HFS - that should've been a clue that the DJ's knew what was coming and didn't care if they followed the fascist play-anything-that-sounds-like-Blink182 rules anymore.
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At 9am, I'm listening to Cakes, JP, Lerch, and EB. And when I left for lunch at 12pm...Spanish??? I blamed it on the fog...what the heck. But no, it's legitamate corporate BS. No offense to all those who grew up in DC, but sadly now, there is no quality morning radio show in the DC area. Take it from someone who grew up listening to stations out of NYC...your airwaves have been reduced to something equivalent to the middle of Pennsylvania minus the country music and adding the political nonsense. Now, here's my call to Infinity Broadcasting...bring it back or at least create a sports oriented radio channel. I have a 30 minute commute, and I hear reading the Post (which also is sub par in sports coverage) and driving can be hazardous. You've totally stuck a knife in the back of the blue collar male, and the 20-something ex-high school jock.
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Originally posted by sybercat:
I feel the same way. Even though it has gotten to be pretty shitty in the last few years, HFS was a big part of my youth. This was where I first heard the Ramones, on HFS in the early 90s. I can't believe I'll never go to another HFStival...and all my favorite DJs, gone... DC will never be the same.
Yeah no more getting naked to win HFSTival tickets...
<img src="http://www.deep6.com/icon/scared.gif" alt=" - " />
MindCage
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
this from the chat ongoing on washingtonpost.com:
From DCRTV: Empire Scrambling To Replace HFS -- 1/12 -- A well-placed source tells DCRTV that Steve Kingston, head of Empire Broadcasting, is looking to snatch up Mega's Spanish 94.3 FM, WBPS, in Warrenton and pair it with the 94.3, currently country WINX, in the Annapolis area for a relaunched alternative rock WRNR, now that WHFS has bit the dust. WINX would move to WRNR's current 103.1 FM Annapolis area frequency.
this would be nice.
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Originally posted by J'Mal:
Originally posted by sybercat:
Originally posted by J'Mal:
Zoltar is still around.... on XM 82.
That's great news.... for people forking out the $$$ for XM. Anybody hear anything about the other DJs? Neci?
BTW, check out www.bigoanddukes.com (http://www.bigoanddukes.com) [/b]
oh yeah, big $$$.... ten bucks a month :roll: it's like two lattes.... [/b]
All right J'Mal. I'm on to you. You're working for XM, aren't you? And isn't it $10 a month, PLUS a couple hundred for the receiver??
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There are plenty of summer festivals within a reasonable distance of the area. They draw many better acts than the hfstival has drawn in many years and are smaller and more intimate. A couple good examples are the all good fest in WV and second sunrise fest in PA. The moe.down is another great fest but it's a bit of a hike from here (upstate ny). It's drawn acts like the flaming lips and they might be giants in the last couple years.
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The FCC is supposed to monitor and fine radio stations in the event they hear indecent speach over the airwaves. When I turned on 99.1 WHFS at 12pm for my lunch break, I heard alot of indecent speach. It was frequent, and the FCC needs to put forth the effort to knock the ZOL (isn't that the name of an evil sci-fi character) off of the airwaves. EFF el ZOL!!! Your listeners cut the fingers off my buddy at Cinema 29 last week for no reason. Infinity broadcasting what are you thinking. DC is NOT Miami!
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Originally posted by pollard:
Originally posted by joz:
preparing for flamage...
i don't think iPOD/XM has really targeted the latino population with their marketing...once they do, maybe they will wise up too and stop listening to the drivel on commercial radio. furthermore, a lot of latinos are not in the financial position to buy pricey MP3 players (not to mention the computers that go with them) and XM satellite radios. that, of course, is the unfortunate repercussion of being amongst the undereducated and underpaid in america (different topic altogether so we'll stop there).
certainly the number of kitchens in dc restaurants blasting the new salsa channel is music to the corporate scum's ears. i know it may be a generalization but there's a captive audience there. some of my friend's are chefs and have been working in dc for years...the radio stations of choice in dc kitchens are latino. case in point.
so how is making money off somebody else "another death knell for the corporate scum commercial radio monopoly?" [/b]
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I'll miss HFS, just about all of my best memories from jr. high and highschool and even some college involve hfstival or that station being on the radio. I just got XM for christmas and this may be all it takes to push me into that and nothing else.
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Originally posted by JonJ38:
The FCC is supposed to monitor and fine radio stations in the event they hear indecent speach over the airwaves. When I turned on 99.1 WHFS at 12pm for my lunch break, I heard alot of indecent speach. It was frequent, and the FCC needs to put forth the effort to knock the ZOL (isn't that the name of an evil sci-fi character) off of the airwaves. EFF el ZOL!!! Your listeners cut the fingers off my buddy at Cinema 29 last week for no reason. Infinity broadcasting what are you thinking. DC is NOT Miami!
Congratulatons! This is the stupidest post I've ever read on any board, listserve, etc. The competition was fierce but you prevailed. Take a bow!
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I just heard on the 11:00 news that the takeover was announced this morning at whfs and a lot of people were "let go." infinity's also not returning calls. that's a cruel way to end it for long-term employees.
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Originally posted by Dahlia:
I just heard on the 11:00 news that the takeover was announced this morning at whfs and a lot of people were "let go." infinity's also not returning calls. that's a cruel way to end it for long-term employees.
Yeah that is pretty underhanded. I've heard that radio was a cruel business but shit. Their own employees had no idea that this was going down until a few hours before the switch? Wow.
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I want to stress a point that makes this a bad thing. We all remember HFS as the way it was. But that was back when many of us were kids, or at least a hell of a lot younger. My point is that while the music was pretty standard, the reputation was sufficient to keep getting decent acts in the HFStival and occasionally other shows. THe DRAW of the station was in fact responsible for decent shows...like it or not.
And, while there are plenty of great shows elsewhere, we need plenty of great shows HERE. LOCALLY! HFStival was local. It DREW people from out of town. It had good bands. There was always somebody worth seeing. Yes, there were crappy bands, but trust me, there were crappy bands in the late 1970s and 80s too. They were punk, new wave, "alternative" "grunge" or whatever. But they sucked nevertheless. Of course, SUCKED is relative. As is "alternative." Now there is one less major lure for those shows. We liked it when we were young. KIDS listen to the station. THey attend the shows. And they get exposed to those few bands that don't (relatively) suck.
You have to be exposed to SOMETHING to be cool, man. You can't just glom on to the guy with the groovy shoes at school, or the girl with the blue hair.
I am getting old, no doubt. But, my 12 year old daughter likes Green Day. She LOVES Green Day. They are fine, I guess, better than many. And she can hear them on the radio almost anywhere. BUT...HFS had them first. And helped them come here again and again...even though the station was stagnating. No, it's not The Cramps at the Marble Bar in 81 (date myself even more) but Green Day is still better than Britney Spears or whatever.
I am on a soapbox and need to get off...but I am bummed. I am afraid that we'll miss out on stuff.
later HFS...
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syber,
no, i don't work for XM. I have a small investment in it but that's about it. Whether anyone here gets it or not isn't going to affect my life.
I stopped listening to regular radio many years ago because it just totally sucks. Then, about 2 years ago, I discovered XM, and it absolutely kicks ass.
So now, everyone is ripping their hair out because some sucky radio station that has sucked for a very long time is off the air, and everyone's all, "where can I get really cool radio anymore? waaaaa...." XM is just the obvious answer to me, it's not any kind of agenda. XM channels 43, 44, and 47 are ten bazillion times better than HFS ever was, and that's just a tiny fraction of it.
(you can get a new XM radio for about fifty bucks if you know where to look ;) As for clear channel, they used to own a whopping 3% of the company, but have been out of it for some time now. I don't think they understood what they were getting into in the beginning. They're not happy about it these days, because they can see the handwriting on the wall.)
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how the hell are we going to find a radio station that plays alternitive rock music???
why did they change HFS into salsa music???
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Originally posted by Dahlia:
I just heard on the 11:00 news that the takeover was announced this morning at whfs and a lot of people were "let go." infinity's also not returning calls. that's a cruel way to end it for long-term employees.
Yeah that is pretty underhanded. I've heard that radio was a cruel business but shit. Their own employees had no idea that this was going down until a few hours before the switch? Wow. [/b]
yeah, and broadcasting jobs don't exactly grow on trees :mad:
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I miss HFS, I am still in a state of shock... no more junkies, Jen, Virgin, or even Big O and Dukes. It is truely depressing. I might not love everything they played: but all and all they were a good station. Metallica, Pantera, and AC/DC are all great bands but i do not wish to hear one of them every five minutes (98 Rock & DC 101). Their time has pasted. U2 and The Cure have grown with the times and produce music worth listening too. I will no longer be listening to the radio unless i find out where my DJs went. They had personality. The fact that they did nothing to deserve this bothers me. Showing up to work one day to find out you have been replaced by illegal immigrant entertainment is a spit in the face. Not to mention that Infinity ran off with the money from the The Tsunami Auction that they told the junkies hold. I hope the person who was in charge of pulling the plug on HFS dies alone slowly and painfully. It will only make it even for all the people that they have hurt and cheated
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Is there any way we can get WRNR a better tower? If all the HFS listeners went to RNR instead of DC101 with our very important marketing dollars, we should be able to make a difference. I'd love to listen to RNR more (go WILCO!) but the signal is too weak.
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What's w/ the racial comments? "Illegal immigrant entertainment" ? Sounds from that comment that you've been listening to Rush Limbaugh lately instead of whfs.
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The fact of the matter is that WRNR will never be WHFS, DC101 will never be WHFS and 98 rock will never be WHFS. WHFS brought many great acts to the area. I have been to 7 festivals, yes half of the bands were horrible but for 40 bucks to see at least 6 of the 12 were good bands... HELL YEAH... What about the fact that now my teen brother can listen to old rock or he can become a little thug boy and listen to WPGC or 92Q. I have already decided to buy him and ipod and upload it with all the music i can. WHFS has a legacy behind it. Of course many people have grown tired of them and have not listened the last few years... but you tell me what station you would want your kids listening to now a days. The employees and the fans deserve more then what they were given.
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Call it racial if you would like. But I pay taxes every year and i do not feel that the Balt/Wash taxpayers should be affected by the HUGE increase of spanish immigration. Everyone knows that 1/2 of them are not legal... shit the government will even tell you that. Everyone is entitled to live in America, Land of the free... but it sure isn't free for me to live here... why should it be free for others.
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i don't mind that dc has a spanish-language station, a lot of major cities do. it's the way that it was handled that really pisses me off. and of course the fact that there are lots of shitty stations that it could have replaced that no one listens to but fat secretaries. THE BAY?
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i'm going to miss the 90's nooner :(
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I've been missing the flashback cafe since they nixed that. Come to think of it, that's around the time I stopped listening regularly.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
Could they possibly use the name HFStival and put on a latin artist fest? :-)
sadly, i think they are
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I'm really going to miss the 90s Nooner too!
J'Mal, I know it seems funny that people are "pulling their hair out" over a radio station that sucked. You're right, in the late 90s and on, it did suck. But HFS has been around for a long time, and there are many of us out here who remember a time when it didn't suck, a time when it played music that wasn't mainstream, music that we couldn't hear anywhere else. I started listening to them when they were playing Frank Black, Adam Ant, The Ramones, The Cure, etc. It's been my favorite ever since. I think HFS was more than just a radio station to many kids of that time, it was like a cool friend who had great taste in music, and now they're gone...
I don't know what happened at HFS, but I've heard that the DJs don't usually know about the switch until after it happens, so they don't do anything crazy in their last shift on the air. Imagine thinking it's just another broadcast, and then finding out you've got the ax. Pretty shitty.
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Originally posted by Lauren522:
Call it racial if you would like.
Racial.
:roll: "I mean, who really wants to eat chimichangas next year? Not me!" - Summer Wheatley, Napoleon Dynamite
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From Hfstival.com (http://www.hfstival.com)
Fox News reported that there is a protest being planned for Saturday at the Asylum studio in DC at 819 7th Street @ 11am - I have no further information on this.
They also created a petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?991hfs (http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?991hfs)
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What I will miss most is the festival. It hasn't been as great as it used to be, I think, since they started charging 40+ dollars for it but it was always great, even with heat stroke :D Radio can be underhanded but I would think more notice than like 2 hours would be better. What a crappy thing to do.
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Originally posted by Lauren522:
Call it racial if you would like. But I pay taxes every year and i do not feel that the Balt/Wash taxpayers should be affected by the HUGE increase of spanish immigration. Everyone knows that 1/2 of them are not legal... shit the government will even tell you that. Everyone is entitled to live in America, Land of the free... but it sure isn't free for me to live here... why should it be free for others.
Glad to see you're not going totally overboard and mixing up 2 totally different subjects. HFS was going down the shitter anyways. You put on bad music and you get low ratings. Cause, effect! And this is a business. If you can't deal with that fact, then tough. These guys don't give a shit how much nostaliga you, or I have for the old days and how much exposure you're giving your brother to rock music. There's a bigger market for the, uh, illegal people, than there is for hfs listeners. Plain and simple.
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if you like alternitive music, you might as well get vh1classic and they have a show called the alternitive that plays the kind of music you like. it shows on wednesdays, thursdays and sundays starting at 11:00 am.
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Originally posted by andyrichter:
HFS was going down the shitter anyways. You put on bad music and you get low ratings. Cause, effect!
so i guess you are saying stuff like the killers, rancid, jimmy eat world, interpol and muse are shitty music? i don't get it everyone keeps on saying they were playing crappy music and i don't think that was it. i honestly don't think that. sure in the past like around 2000, it was rather crappy, but in the past two years, they've cleaned up nicely and also, alternative music is coming back. sure you might not like dasbhboard confessional, but it is real alternative. most radio stations except for college and alternative stations (like what hfs use to be) will not play their music. as far as i'm concern, hfs played music that you don't normally find on stations like z104 or mix107. and if it did get played by popular stations, well that just shows how ground breaking hfs really was. i mean there was a joke at one time that they played the hits of tomorrow. and if people doubt the power of hfs, then talk to good charlotte. if it weren't for whfs, they wouldn't have a career right now.
anyways, my point is, i don't think ratings mean anything and they didn't play crappy music in the recent past. money unforunately does rule things but i think infinity radio has under estimated people's love for that station and that format. and finally, you don't hear dc101 play franz ferdinan or muse or atleast i haven't yet.
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I haven't listened to 'HFS in years but it was the "shit" back in my formative years.I can still remember being 14 or 15 and they had a hardcore punk show on late at night that played the Dead Kennedys,Germs,Circle Jerks etc.Plus they were some of my first exposure to reggae,rockabilly and "classic" rock that the other stations wouldn't play(Zappa,Dave Edmunds,Big Star),and of course this was all in addition to them often providing the soundtrack of many of our youths(REM,Replacements,Chili Peppers,Nirvana,the list could obviously go on and on)All of which was a welcome alternative to the crap being played on almost every other station.
The truth is,WHFS died to me many years back when they sold the station to a big evil company and stopped letting the DJ's play their own tunes and became carefully programmed.I remember a few years back reading an article that said that they had the smallest playlist of any station in the area(even the "all hits" station) which clearly any sensible person would know to be the opposite of "alternative" or "modern".
Luckily we still live in an age where we can randomly go online and pick out a college radio station at random and give it a whirl.Amidst all the dead air and the uncomfortable patter of inexperienced 20 year old music nerds we just might get to hear the next song that intrigues us,makes us laugh or changes our lives.
Here is a brief history of 'HFS and interviews with some of it's principle players.
http://www.dcrtv.org/hfs.html (http://www.dcrtv.org/hfs.html)
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Originally posted by RonniStar:
From Hfstival.com (http://www.hfstival.com)
Fox News reported that there is a protest being planned for Saturday at the Asylum studio in DC at 819 7th Street @ 11am - I have no further information on this.
They also created a petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?991hfs (http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?991hfs)
Is there a petition to keep it a Salsa station? I'll sign that one.
Any mention of class action lawsuit, thats how Americans deal with most disappointment these days.
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Is there a petition to keep it a Salsa station? I'll sign that one.
I'd co-sign that one...
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What were the djs doing while all this went down? Twiddling their thumbs? If I knew that in twenty minutes they were taking me off the air, firing me and replacing me with DJ Jose, I would have locked the booth, not played music, and begged listeners to call in and go absolutely nuts on the owners, the producers, whoever...
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Originally posted by dlcjr1775:
What were the djs doing while all this went down? Twiddling their thumbs? If I knew that in twenty minutes they were taking me off the air, firing me and replacing me with DJ Jose, I would have locked the booth, not played music, and begged listeners to call in and go absolutely nuts on the owners, the producers, whoever...
I've seen that movie, too...
But seriously, there wasn't much they could do at that point. I wonder what will become of all the memorabilia HFS has collected over the years.
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<img src="http://www.ealasaid.com/fan/buscemi/images/airheads.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Keep your eye on the dumpsters...
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Rupert Pupkin:
So, will Dr. Drew and Adam Corolla be speaking in spanish now?
Not until their parent station, KROQ in LA, becomes a Spanish channel. DC gets a syndicate of a show that's been going strong in LA for almost 25 years. [/b]
that show is retarded! figures its from Cali. :)
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Originally posted by redsock:
But their decline parallels the general fall of the music industry.
no way! i think most of us agree on the fact that the music industry and radio is headed down a sucky path. but you cant battle the big boys of old with something new. Kids wouldnt listen to an little indie/college station with WHFS blaring Nirvana all the time. but now, its the only station they dont need thier spanish teacher around to listen to!
this is a perfect time for change to happen for the better.
bigYawn radio could take over the area....get on it my man!
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Dashboard Confessional sells millions of records. How does that make them "alternative"? Alternative to what? Other million selling acts? Ditto for killers, rancid, jimmy eats the world, and interpol.
Originally posted by saintangelsin:
Originally posted by andyrichter:
HFS was going down the shitter anyways. You put on bad music and you get low ratings. Cause, effect!
so i guess you are saying stuff like the killers, rancid, jimmy eat world, interpol and muse are shitty music? i don't get it everyone keeps on saying they were playing crappy music and i don't think that was it. i honestly don't think that. sure in the past like around 2000, it was rather crappy, but in the past two years, they've cleaned up nicely and also, alternative music is coming back. sure you might not like dasbhboard confessional, but it is real alternative. most radio stations except for college and alternative stations (like what hfs use to be) will not play their music. as far as i'm concern, hfs played music that you don't normally find on stations like z104 or mix107. and if it did get played by popular stations, well that just shows how ground breaking hfs really was. i mean there was a joke at one time that they played the hits of tomorrow. and if people doubt the power of hfs, then talk to good charlotte. if it weren't for whfs, they wouldn't have a career right now.
anyways, my point is, i don't think ratings mean anything and they didn't play crappy music in the recent past. money unforunately does rule things but i think infinity radio has under estimated people's love for that station and that format. and finally, you don't hear dc101 play franz ferdinan or muse or atleast i haven't yet. [/b]
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Thank you, our enlightened Captain Redsock, for setting us, the dullard masses, straight.
Now do tell us why the heck you were camping at a record store?
Where is the true voice of reason, Flawd, when we need him?
Originally posted by redsock:
Regardless of whther you like corporate radio, or like HFS, this move is a very very bad one. If you look at hte bigger picture, which obviously very few of you are capapble of doing, you'll see the continuing of a trend that will further puch good music to hte background. Sure HFS played a lot of shit, and has done that for quite some time. But their decline parallels the general fall of the music industry. It is not something to be celebrated, not something to cheer. Throughout all the miserableness of their programming, every once in awhile they would play a Fugazi song, or an old Echo and the Bunnymen song. And somebody heard that artist for the very first time and bought an album, or looked them up on the internet. That is a good thing that simply won't happen anymore.
I spent the past weekend in LA, listening to indie 103 and camping out in Amoeba. I said while i was there that DC could never support an Amoeba, cause too many people just don't care about music. This is a perfect example that DC can't even support a 'modern rock' station. Just think about this for a second... I know many of you don't give a fuck about DC as a whole, and are only interested in your own personal likes and dislikes. That's fine, but for those of us who actually care about what the DC music scene is becoming, this is a very bad omen. I hope someone takes up some slack on the airwaves. I have XM and listen to WOXY or KEXP and have more CDs than I can listen to being mailed to me, but it's not me I'm worried about.
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why don't you just listen to cd's instead? i didnt even know people still listened to the radio
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It's funny, I was going to lament the fact that some bands will bypass DC when planning dates on their tours, but I realized that most of the bands at the shows I've been to this year, WERE NEVER PLAYED ON THE RADIO ANYWAY! (Bettie Serveert, Bobby Bare Jr, Features, Old 97s, Placebo, Drive By Truckers, Earlimart etc.) If they were, I guess I never heard it, because I was listening to NPR and CDs, but how many bands have you heard for the first time while they opened for another band. Internet radio is by far the best thing that's ever happened to anyone who wants to hear new, different music in any genre. I haven't missed 'HFS since 1991.
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What is WRNR? What station is it?
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Originally posted by Adam Bomb:
What is WRNR? What station is it?
WRNR (http://www.wrnr.com/)
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Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Originally posted by Adam Bomb:
What is WRNR? What station is it?
WRNR (http://www.wrnr.com/) [/b]
hmmm. never heard of that station. does it come through in Bmoreland?
sounds pretty cool.
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first of all, it isn't salsa, it's alternative salsa
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salsa
that IS an alternative.
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Originally posted by edbert:
first of all, it isn't salsa, it's alternative salsa
The TRUE alternative salsa...
MindCage
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
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Originally posted by RonniStar:
From Hfstival.com (http://www.hfstival.com)
Fox News reported that there is a protest being planned for Saturday at the Asylum studio in DC at 819 7th Street @ 11am - I have no further information on this.
They also created a petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?991hfs (http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?991hfs)
lol I was going to make a comment about that satellite studio they've had setup for almost a year at Asylum Wake and Skate shop. I'll go over during my lunch break and just start taking stuff...that is unless they've got a mareachee band playing live!
That petition that was drafted up is soooooo horrible. I think a 15 year old wrote it, which would make sense this those are the only ones who really care that the station is gone...Probably the same kid who has like 1000GB of stolen MP3s from P2P.
MindCage
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
salsa
that IS an alternative.
Is it Mild, Medium Or Hot Alternative Salsa?
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although, hfs's program has been horrible for quite some time, this is still concerning. Where they in need of some major renovation? Absolutly, but it is still discouraging to be seeing what it was replaced with. the fact that lollapalooza was cancelled, meriweather has been struggling to say open for years, album and ticketsales are generally down and now this. It is alarming, whether you liked their recent programing or not. This is just an extenstion of the over all lackluster of the music industry, especailly in the (and I use this word very loosly) "rock" genere.
mp3 killed the audio star.....
not exactly, but you get the point.
Most album and ticket sales are down, which means profits for record companies and artists are down, which means record companies are taking fewer risks and chances and there is less motovation for artists to original, which means less creative and original acts are being signed, which means you have watered down radio stations that are not playing hardly any good new music, which means lower listener ratings, which means.....you got it salsa. This is f%*#ing bad. Music is more than just entertainment. It is the voice of generations, the freedom of speach. One of the last freedoms we have that is slowly being striped from us (thanks FCC). Do I listen to the radio that often? Not anymore. Not for quite some time. As many of you have stated I am ususally listening to my ipod. But you will never hear a new artist on your ipod! I have one of the larger pods, but guess what? Eventully I am going to get sick of playing the same dated stuff over and over again, regaurdless of how much I like it. I will want something new and exciting. Something that speaks to and for current and future generations....
Where will I hear it???????????
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Originally posted by aortaatroa:
This is just an extenstion of the over all lackluster of the music industry, especailly in the (and I use this word very loosly) "rock" genere.
Most album and ticket sales are down, which means profits for record companies and artists are down, which means record companies are taking fewer risks and chances and there is less motovation for artists to original, which means less creative and original acts are being signed, which means you have watered down radio stations that are not playing hardly any good new music, which means lower listener ratings, which means.....
Where will I hear it???????????
which means now people will start having to do some *work* to find new music...maybe smaller, local "scenes" will develop...
of course, most things that become part of an "industry" or comglomerate become less valuable artistically...so the break down of the industry could actually be a good thing...just keep supporting your TRULY independent and DIY artists and labels...
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Originally posted by aortaatroa:
Most album and ticket sales are down,
US CD sales rose by 2.3% in 2004 - the first rise in four years - despite the growing popularity of legal digital music downloads.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4150747.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4150747.stm)
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[/QUOTE]which means now people will start having to do some *work* to find new music...maybe smaller, local "scenes" will develop...
of course, most things that become part of an "industry" or comglomerate become less valuable artistically...so the break down of the industry could actually be a good thing...just keep supporting your TRULY independent and DIY artists and labels... [/QB][/QUOTE]
Yes, this could be true. Let's hope so anyway! But these things take time and it still looks quite bleak for the near future.
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[/QUOTE]
US CD sales rose by 2.3% in 2004 - the first rise in four years - despite the growing popularity of legal digital music downloads.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4150747.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4150747.stm) [/QB][/QUOTE]
They may have rose slightly last year but they are still generally much lower than say 5 to 10 years ago. It is good that there was a small increase last year, but things like this are not going to help.
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The fact of the matter is the numbers tell the story with regards to WHFS
According to the October 2004 Arbitron ratings, which cover the summer months, WHFS ended up 17th out of 20. It placed between Z104 & WAVA (105.1 - religious/talk format).
HFS was 17th for July and April as well. Fall 2003 it came in 20th.
Kinda hard to sell advertising and bring in revenue on a poorly performing station. Switching to the new format makes total sense because there is less competition radio stations competing for adverstizers seeking the spanish community.
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Originally posted by azaghal1981:
I've been missing the flashback cafe since they nixed that. Come to think of it, that's around the time I stopped listening regularly.
For real!
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
The fact of the matter is the numbers tell the story with regards to WHFS
According to the October 2004 Arbitron ratings, which cover the summer months, WHFS ended up 17th out of 20. It placed between Z104 & WAVA (105.1 - religious/talk format).
HFS was 17th for July and April as well. Fall 2003 it came in 20th.
Kinda hard to sell advertising and bring in revenue on a poorly performing station. Switching to the new format makes total sense because there is less competition radio stations competing for adverstizers seeking the spanish community.
That is partially true, but music should not be dictated by business and advertising. It is exactly that kind of attidude that produced the crappy music they where playing and resulted in their reflective ratings. It is unfortunate when art becomes so apprieciated that it becomes a business and ends up killing itself........
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Originally posted by aortaatroa:
That is partially true, but music should not be dictated by business and advertising...
no, but radio stations, unless college or public, kind of need to be, don't they...because businesses is what they are...
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
The fact of the matter is the numbers tell the story with regards to WHFS
According to the October 2004 Arbitron ratings, which cover the summer months, WHFS ended up 17th out of 20. It placed between Z104 & WAVA (105.1 - religious/talk format).
HFS was 17th for July and April as well. Fall 2003 it came in 20th.
Kinda hard to sell advertising and bring in revenue on a poorly performing station. Switching to the new format makes total sense because there is less competition radio stations competing for adverstizers seeking the spanish community.
>>> Kos has spoken the whole truth about the entire situation.....this station has been a truly underperforming entity for YEARS!! Revenue has been in the toilet and advertising dollars are what drives the entire station. It's very hard to sell advertising for a station that consistently finishes at the bottom of the barrel in the ratings book! Terrestrial radio is fighting for every dollar it can now. Making the move to a segment of the market that is under served could mean thousands more in revenue. If the powers that be at the station were concerned with the situation as they should have been,they could have started to tweak the format in the last 3 or 4 fours years away from the nu metal and crap and truly more to the indie pop side or the "classic" alternative that other stations in other markets had already shifted to. They had nothing to lose,the ratings were crap and the time was right to correct the problem,they chose to keep beating a dead horse! Now,here's a commercial "alternative" playlist that I'd be listening to daily in my car!http://www.indie1031.fm/music.html
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Originally posted by aortaatroa:
Do I listen to the radio that often? Not anymore. Not for quite some time. As many of you have stated I am ususally listening to my ipod. But you will never hear a new artist on your ipod! I have one of the larger pods, but guess what? Eventully I am going to get sick of playing the same dated stuff over and over again, regaurdless of how much I like it. I will want something new and exciting. Something that speaks to and for current and future generations....
Where will I hear it???????????
You know where. Those two little letters....
There's radio that is geared toward satisfying advertisers, who want a certain number of a certain demographic for a certain price....
And there's radio that is geared toward the LISTENERS, because the LISTENERS, not the advertisers, are footing the bill.
Hmmm.... I wonder which kind consistently delivers fresh new music, deep deep stuff from "obscure little bands" and indie labels and "DIY artists...."
:roll:
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the point is that at some point Radio Stations were seen as cash cows and therefore become hot properties to buy and sell. with large companies and corporations swooping in and paying high prices to buy them. often by going well into debt to do so. the owners then need to recover thier investment and payoff loans etc. so they want to maximize profits but targeting specific audiences in order to lure ad dollars. it got even worse when the Clear Channels of the world starting buying up multiple stations and carrying alot of debt. now they also have to satisfy the shareholders by turning a profit.
so yes the current business model for FM radio is flawed and it will never change until Infinity and Clear Channel have to have a firesale, the price comes down and let radio stations fall back into the hands of owners who care more about the music, community than trying to cover their debt.
<tongue firmly planted in cheek>
don't see why we be giving creedence to XM, seeing as one of it's chief architects, Lee Abrams, was the person that help develope the system that ultimate made radio the way it is today.
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on that note i will shamelessly plug radioio.com :D
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
the point is that at some point Radio Stations were seen as cash cows and therefore become hot properties to buy and sell. with large companies and corporations swooping in and paying high prices to buy them. often by going well into debt to do so. the owners then need to recover thier investment and payoff loans etc. so they want to maximize profits but targeting specific audiences in order to lure ad dollars. it got even worse when the Clear Channels of the world starting buying up multiple stations and carrying alot of debt. now they also have to satisfy the shareholders by turning a profit.
so yes the current business model for FM radio is flawed and it will never change until Infinity and Clear Channel have to have a firesale, the price comes down and let radio stations fall back into the hands of owners who care more about the music, community than trying to cover their debt.
excellent point, btw, kosmo...
oy vey...it's amazing how all of these hfs lovers come out of the woodwork now. guess cinderella was spot on with "don't know what you've got until it's gone". if i really wanted to waste some time at work today, i could probably go back through old threads and find hfs-bashing statements from some who are now boo-hooing over its demise.
just to preface the following statements, i've been living in dc proper for over 3 years now and have lived in the general area (hfs listening radius) for over 15. so, i'm not a dc "native" per se and neither do i plan to stay forever.
with that said, my general opinion is that this city is really lacking in independent music outlets. can you count the number of (decent) independent record stores in dc on one hand? go ahead and use the other hand to count the number of decent live venues (as in you consistently go to shows there)...granted there's a big difference in size and population BUT you can't look at a nyc or chicago and tell me honestly that dc isn't sorely lacking. HFS DID NOT HELP THIS SITUATION PEOPLE!!!
maybe if people in dc weren't so used to being spoonfed the latest and greatest bands via a pseudo-alternative such as HFS, they would, as celeste pointed out, be forced to find music through other channels. what happened to digging into the bins and old record stores and checking out obscure bands to find something that really knocked you out? no need to do that with your friendly alternative HFS to show you what's really cool and hip!
screw HFS for making people think muse was really cool just because they were playing them and promoting their 9:30 gig. muse was f-ing cool long before that and some of don't need the stupid corporate whores to tell us so.
finally, you think interpol and such won't come to dc anymore simply because hfs is gone? i may be deluded but i think that's crazy talk. the dc/balt area is a major market whether or not there's a station here to play it. you think they're just going to hit nyc, phila and skip over us to head to atlanta? not gonna happen.
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Originally posted by joz:
finally, you think interpol and such won't come to dc anymore simply because hfs is gone? i may be deluded but i think that's crazy talk. the dc/balt area is a major market whether or not there's a station here to play it. you think they're just going to hit nyc, phila and skip over us to head to atlanta? not gonna happen.
Well...from their website (http://www.interpolny.com/)
Radio City Announced
A New York City show has just been announced to conclude the first leg of US tour dates on March 1 at Radio City Music Hall. Tickets will be on sale starting 1/22. The online presale will begin at noon local time on 1/20. You must be registered to participate in the presale.
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Population of NYC: 8,000,000
Population of Chicago: 2,900,000
Population of DC: 560,000
If you're going to compare music scenes, pick cities that are comparable in size to DC.
Originally posted by joz:
with that said, my general opinion is that this city is really lacking in independent music outlets. can you count the number of (decent) independent record stores in dc on one hand? go ahead and use the other hand to count the number of decent live venues (as in you consistently go to shows there)...granted there's a big difference in size and population BUT you can't look at a nyc or chicago and tell me honestly that dc isn't sorely lacking. HFS DID NOT HELP THIS SITUATION PEOPLE!!!
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
the point is that at some point Radio Stations were seen as cash cows and therefore become hot properties to buy and sell. with large companies and corporations swooping in and paying high prices to buy them. often by going well into debt to do so. the owners then need to recover thier investment and payoff loans etc. so they want to maximize profits but targeting specific audiences in order to lure ad dollars. it got even worse when the Clear Channels of the world starting buying up multiple stations and carrying alot of debt. now they also have to satisfy the shareholders by turning a profit.
so yes the current business model for FM radio is flawed and it will never change until Infinity and Clear Channel have to have a firesale, the price comes down and let radio stations fall back into the hands of owners who care more about the music, community than trying to cover their debt.
<tongue firmly planted in cheek>
don't see why we be giving creedence to XM, seeing as one of it's chief architects, Lee Abrams, was the person that help develope the system that ultimate made radio the way it is today.
I totally agree
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Population of NYC: 8,000,000
Population of Chicago: 2,900,000
Population of DC: 560,000
If you're going to compare music scenes, pick cities that are comparable in size to DC.
Originally posted by joz:
with that said, my general opinion is that this city is really lacking in independent music outlets. can you count the number of (decent) independent record stores in dc on one hand? go ahead and use the other hand to count the number of decent live venues (as in you consistently go to shows there)...granted there's a big difference in size and population BUT you can't look at a nyc or chicago and tell me honestly that dc isn't sorely lacking. HFS DID NOT HELP THIS SITUATION PEOPLE!!!
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hence my qualifier "GRANTED THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN SIZE". yes the pop of the district itself is a measly 500K but we're the nation's capital for christ's sake and that should count for something...at least another mil or so. we've got political pull GDit. then throw in the metro area and baltimore.
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With or without HFS, some bands do for some reason seem to skip DC and still hit Philly, NYC, Boston, etc with some sort of regularity. Maybe because the crowds here suck? I don't know.
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Originally posted by andyrichter:
With or without HFS, some bands do for some reason seem to skip DC and still hit Philly, NYC, Boston, etc with some sort of regularity. Maybe because the crowds here suck? I don't know.
good one andy...i meant to add that to my dc gripe list. people here are just so frickin apathetic. it comes through at the live shows and i'm sure bands must pick up on it. i've seen crowds go batty for a band elsewhere and when i see the same band play dc and play and equally good show and the dc crowd looks like they came in from the convalescent home down the street (not age-wise, but energy). maybe i'll take a defribrilator to the next show.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Population of NYC: 8,000,000
Population of Chicago: 2,900,000
Population of DC: 560,000
If you're going to compare music scenes, pick cities that are comparable in size to DC.
yeah, that sucks Rhett, come on
if you are looking at population in city limits
Baltimore 628,000
Boston 581,616
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Originally posted by Celeste:
Originally posted by aortaatroa:
That is partially true, but music should not be dictated by business and advertising...
no, but radio stations, unless college or public, kind of need to be, don't they...because businesses is what they are... [/b]
To a degree, but when you are so careful and selective about what you play you end up shooting youself in the foot. ie. hfs turned el sol. great music is about taking chances and breaking molds and right now radio stations and record companies are doing the opposite.
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Originally posted by evildraftboardmember:
Originally posted by RonniStar:
From Hfstival.com (http://www.hfstival.com)
Fox News reported that there is a protest being planned for Saturday at the Asylum studio in DC at 819 7th Street @ 11am - I have no further information on this.
They also created a petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?991hfs (http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?991hfs)
Is there a petition to keep it a Salsa station? I'll sign that one.
Any mention of class action lawsuit, thats how Americans deal with most disappointment these days. [/b]
Tell that to the person who created this ad!
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/eve/55476278.html (http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/eve/55476278.html)
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i wonder if Infinity underestimated the loyality of their diminished HFS audience and El Zol will go the way of New Coke. The question is which Classic HFS do they bring back. I'd suggest one which represents The Good, The Band and The Ugly of it's history. Would probably never work as what teenager is going to stand for music that "old" people listen to.
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at first i thought they were going to be like "haha...it was just a joke" but guess not...
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Population of NYC: 8,000,000
Population of Chicago: 2,900,000
Population of DC: 560,000
If you're going to compare music scenes, pick cities that are comparable in size to DC.
Balt-DC is a huge market. You cant simply limit its population to its city lines. I believe we are the seventh largest market in the United States.
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I thought it was people working for the clubs who book the bands. Is it really bands choosing to skip this particular market, or is it bookers being selective about which shows are more likely to do well, given the limited amount of dates and the limited amount of clubs in our area?
Originally posted by joz:
Originally posted by andyrichter:
With or without HFS, some bands do for some reason seem to skip DC and still hit Philly, NYC, Boston, etc with some sort of regularity. Maybe because the crowds here suck? I don't know.
good one andy...i meant to add that to my dc gripe list. people here are just so frickin apathetic. it comes through at the live shows and i'm sure bands must pick up on it. i've seen crowds go batty for a band elsewhere and when i see the same band play dc and play and equally good show and the dc crowd looks like they came in from the convalescent home down the street (not age-wise, but energy). maybe i'll take a defribrilator to the next show. [/b]
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In terms of metropolitan areas, Balt/Wash, I beleive I heard, is the THIRD largest in the country with 7-8 million. Only areas ahead are LA and New York.
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<img src="http://www.isfullofcrap.com/albums/Blogstuff/ready_mexico.sized.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Originally posted by d38105:
In terms of metropolitan areas, Balt/Wash, I beleive I heard, is the THIRD largest in the country with 7-8 million. Only areas ahead are LA and New York.
Close.
Largest Metrpolitan Areas
Rank (2000 Pop.)
1 New York - 21,199,865
2 Los Angeles - 16,373,645
3 Chicago - 9,157,540
4 Washington/Baltimore - 7,608,070
5 San Francisco - 7,039,362
6 Philadelphia - 6,188,463
7 Boston - 5,819,100
8 Detroit - 5,456,428
9 Dallas - 5,221,801
10 Houston - 4,669,571
11 Atlanta - 4,112,198
12 Miami - 3,876,380
13 Seattle - 3,554,760
14 Phoenix - 3,251,876
15 Minneapolis - 2,968,806
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heh... it's kind of fitting in a way, because once upon a time, when HFS was quirky and good, they used to devote their Sunday evenings to foreign language programming.
<img src="http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/5014/Whfs1023.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Guerrilla radio is where our new home needs to be. Hopefully someone will do it. Shit I might do it myself, but my taste in music is not mainstream. I think I just came up with an idea.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by d38105:
In terms of metropolitan areas, Balt/Wash, I beleive I heard, is the THIRD largest in the country with 7-8 million. Only areas ahead are LA and New York.
Close.
Largest Metrpolitan Areas
Rank (2000 Pop.)
1 New York - 21,199,865
2 Los Angeles - 16,373,645
3 Chicago - 9,157,540
4 Washington/Baltimore - 7,608,070
5 San Francisco - 7,039,362
6 Philadelphia - 6,188,463
7 Boston - 5,819,100
8 Detroit - 5,456,428
9 Dallas - 5,221,801
10 Houston - 4,669,571
11 Atlanta - 4,112,198
12 Miami - 3,876,380
13 Seattle - 3,554,760
14 Phoenix - 3,251,876
15 Minneapolis - 2,968,806 [/b]
I stand corrected, but still the point is, we are not a small market by any means. And, also those are stats from 2000, considering this is the fastest growing area in the nation, we may very well be no.3 right now.
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jesus christ...all these newbies are coming out of the fucking woodwork...they must be boarders from hfs.com...the board now is riddled with them, and their repetitive posts, and posts in the wrong fora, etc.
I know the station's programming was rolling downhill, but I will miss them. I wish they would come back now, so all of these new people would go back.
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And take a couple of regulars with them. ;)
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Largest Metrpolitan Areas
Rank (2000 Pop.)
5 San Jose - 7,039,362
there, that's better.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Largest Metrpolitan Areas
Rank (2000 Pop.)
5 San Jose - 7,039,362
there, that's better. [/b]
We call that "The Orange County Crisis." You're going to need your own TV Show before you get out of the shadows.
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Damn is this thread still going? At this rate, it'll be longer than the "just announced" thread within a week. :)
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Where is the true voice of reason, Flawd, when we need him?
I think the poor fellow has gone into mourning (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4174341.stm)
He'd provide any excellent running commentary on the petition comments
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From This Post Article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12756-2005Jan15.html):
HFS never won huge ratings numbers, but as Brooks says, "It was always much more fervent than it was quantity." Rockers playing Washington gigs would make the pilgrimage to the studios on Cordell Avenue in Bethesda and play on the air, then maybe stop by the Psyche Delly nearby. Listening to HFS was a marker, a cultural identifier as powerful and telling as what you wore and where you hung out. It meant that you spurned conformity, sneered at the slick and cherished rebellion.
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i actually liked hfs even though some (ok most) of its music sucked. because unlike some stations in this area it also played good songs and had decent talk shows
i wonder how much dc101 benefitted from hfs going el zol because most of 99.1s listeners turned to the only other modern rock station in the area
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Anyone have a link to the actual last minute of WHFS? I'd like to hear what is, whether the station has sucked for the last 10 years or not, the end of an era.
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it's here as part of the orginial hfs going of the air blurb
http://www.dcrtv.org/index.html (http://www.dcrtv.org/index.html)
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Originally posted by Lauren522:
Call it racial if you would like. But I pay taxes every year and i do not feel that the Balt/Wash taxpayers should be affected by the HUGE increase of spanish immigration. Everyone knows that 1/2 of them are not legal... shit the government will even tell you that. Everyone is entitled to live in America, Land of the free... but it sure isn't free for me to live here... why should it be free for others.
ugh, can you people leave soon?
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Lou Dobbs kicks ass!!!
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just received an email saying the station would be back tonight starting at 7pm on 105.7...the email was sent by HFS, I was on their previous email list. Who knew?
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I rec'd the email too. Darn it for not removing my name from their list.
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Originally posted by hitman:
just received an email saying the station would be back tonight starting at 7pm on 105.7...
Did this really happen?
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1/21 - DCRTV hears that Infinity will put WHFS tunes and personalities on Baltimore's WXYV, Live 105.7. The talk station will, for the time being, keep Howard Stern in mornings and Don and Mike in afternoons, but will run alternative rock during evenings and overnights, and on weekends. Starting tonight (Friday) at 7 PM. Say goodbye to DC's Ron and Fez. Personnel from the old WHFS at 99.1 FM, which flipped to Spanish-language music last week, include former afternoon driver Tim Virgin. They'll be heard via the new incarnation, which will also be available fulltime on the internet at whfs.com and via America Online's Radio@AOL. Programming will include new music, archive programming from WHFS, and performances from past HFStivals. "We heard loud and clear how important WHFS and its programming are to the Washington DC-Baltimore community, and through our partnership with AOL, we are thrilled to be able to bring WHFS back to its passionate and loyal fans," said Infinity marketing suit David Goodman. "The legacy of WHFS as a pioneering music station will continue to live on for millions of listeners around the world."
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Originally posted by Arthwys:
but will run alternative rock during evenings and overnights, and on weekends.
But what will I listen to at lunch and after football practice?
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Originally posted by Lauren522:
Call it racial if you would like. But I pay taxes every year and i do not feel that the Balt/Wash taxpayers should be affected by the HUGE increase of spanish immigration. Everyone knows that 1/2 of them are not legal... shit the government will even tell you that. Everyone is entitled to live in America, Land of the free... but it sure isn't free for me to live here... why should it be free for others.
typical HFS listeners?
<img src="http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t790/T790871A.jpg" alt=" - " />
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After reading the signatures on those petitions and some of the posts on this thread, I'm starting to think that David Duke was the program director at hfs for the passed 5 years. :-)
Originally posted by HerrDoktorDoom:
Originally posted by Lauren522:
Call it racial if you would like. But I pay taxes every year and i do not feel that the Balt/Wash taxpayers should be affected by the HUGE increase of spanish immigration. Everyone knows that 1/2 of them are not legal... shit the government will even tell you that. Everyone is entitled to live in America, Land of the free... but it sure isn't free for me to live here... why should it be free for others.
typical HFS listeners?
<img src="http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t790/T790871A.jpg" alt=" - " /> [/b]
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Heard a funny 60 second spot on Live 105 here in SF on my way home that after a 15 second introduction in spanish "The rumors you've heard about from Craig's list about Live 105 follwing the fate of our sister station in Washington, DC, the legendary HFS, are unfounded and completely without merit. Alternative music is live and well in the Bay Area. We will not be turning into a spanish music channel." back into 15 seconds of spanish gibberish and then back into regular programming.
I laughed out loud. A couple of times.
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maybe that petition or lame protest worked?
we'll never know. but it kinda makes me smile. even though I'll never listen....
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HFS' meandering around the dial -- this is its third spot on the airwaves in its history that I can remember -- nicely parallels its steady decline. It's hard to imagine it getting any worse at this new frequency than it already is, and the blatant racism expressed by fans at the thought of it being replaced by a Spanish-language station shows better than anything else how far it has fallen.
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Originally posted by HerrDoktorDoom:
<img src="http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t790/T790871A.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.c-span.org/images/guide/executive/investigation/chief.jpg" alt=" - " />
Stripes are "IN" again.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by hitman:
just received an email saying the station would be back tonight starting at 7pm on 105.7...
Did this really happen? [/b]
Yeah, I heard a few minutes of it last night. I'm pretty sure the DJs were drunk. Good for them.
I actually have hope that maybe the new station will loosen up a bit and give them some freedom in what they play. Who knows - maybe this is the kick in the ass they need to turn HFS back into a decent station.
In the 10-15 minutes I was listening they played promos that referred to themselves as "legendary" 3 times. Damn that gets on my nerves.
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Fuck HFS!
KHS (http://home.comcast.net/~skramarck/wkhspage.htm) is what it's about in Balto.
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http://www.woxy.com (http://www.woxy.com)
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my friend in Minneapolis told me this station just started there
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/thecurrent/ (http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/thecurrent/)
and artists played so far include:
Son Volt
Wilco
Death Cab for Cutie
The Jam
Hank Williams
Luna
Iron and Wine
Frou Frou
Depeche Mode
Bob Dylan
Low
Matt Pond PA
Radiohead
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Easy Listening
By ROB WALKER
KCRW.com
As part of the CMJ Music Marathon this past October, a New York band called Brazilian Girls performed a danceable set of songs in multiple languages before a crowd at the Hiro Ballroom in Manhattan. The sponsor of this particular event was KCRW.com, which presents live music on a regular basis in New York these days, at venues like Joe's Pub and the Mercury Lounge. But residents of the tri-state area who look for the station on their FM dial will be frustrated. KCRW is based in Santa Monica, Calif.
Why is a Southern California public radio station promoting events on the other side of the country? Because while new media and old media are supposed to be enemies, KCRW.com is trying to make them allies, by building an online listener base -- and in the process trying to create what amounts to a national brand. For the past few years, KCRW.com has broadcast three ''streams,'' including a 24-hour music option.
It's hard to come up with a solid figure for the number of online listeners, since the station's Netcasts travel not just from its own site but also through AOL and Apple's iTunes software. But one gauge of popularity that seems relevant to a public radio station is the number of people well outside the traditional broadcast range who become ''members'' -- that is, who donate money. With each KCRW pledge drive in recent years come scores of comments from contributors who listen online. ''I adore your station and listen to it every day here in beautiful Brooklyn, U.S.A.!'' one donor wrote recently. More than 1,000 New Yorkers have become members since 2000; similar comments come from all over the country.
KCRW has long had a certain tastemaker status, centered on the weekday show ''Morning Becomes Eclectic,'' which lives up to its name by giving time to artists across a swath of genres, from Eleni Mandell, the Los Angeles singer-songwriter, to club favorites like the Scissor Sisters and indie-rock bands like Franz Ferdinand. That has continued with that show's current D.J., Nic Harcourt, who has been the station's music director since 1998. He says KCRW was the first radio station to play Norah Jones, and the first in the U.S. to play Dido and Coldplay. (He is also host of a weekly sister program, ''Sounds Eclectic,'' now syndicated on more than 30 public radio stations in cities across the country.) Evening shows like Jason Bentley's dance-and-electronica-oriented Metropolis, and Tom Schnabel's and Chris Douridas's wide-ranging weekend programs, all combine to give the station a playlist that's full of surprises. Along the way, these D.J.'s and others at the station have become music supervisors (basically song pickers) for film and television soundtracks and commercials.
Harcourt has been a particular champion of raising KCRW's profile. The station has sponsored and held more and more music events in Los Angeles, and in the last year or so, has done the same in San Francisco and New York. The idea is that as commercial radio has become increasingly timid, canned and predictable, there is an opportunity for a station like KCRW to leverage its tastemaker status. And while satellite radio is providing one alternative, it's built on the idea of restricting your tastes one genre at a time. So stations like KCRW (along with Philadelphia's WXPN and its syndicated ''World Cafe'' show, and a few others, like WFUV in the Bronx) are now crucial to idiosyncratic bands like Brazilian Girls, the smaller record labels that promote them and the music consumers who want to be surprised.
The Brazilian Girls, a kind of house band for the East Village club Nublu, made an EP last year that found its way to Harcourt. Their music got a lot of KCRW airplay and even earned them a live set on ''Morning Becomes Eclectic.'' They have an album coming out on Verve. According to Jill Weindorf at the label, early promotional posters include a blurb from Harcourt. ''Because of the dot-com following, and some of the music supervision he's done, he's actually becoming a name that even a consumer would recognize,'' she says, noting that she has seen Harcourt quotations on CD stickers as well. ''KCRW is starting to be a brand that means cool.''
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/23/magazine/23CONSUMED.html?oref=login (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/23/magazine/23CONSUMED.html?oref=login)
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That Minnestota station looks amazing. In Pittsburgh there is an NPR music station, but it mostly plays standard AAA - liberal doses of Sting and Sheryl Crow between the decent songs. But this is a great, crap-free playlist - and they even carry Morning Becomes Eclectic!
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Originally posted by pollard:
my friend in Minneapolis told me this station just started there
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/thecurrent/ (http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/thecurrent/)
and artists played so far include:
Son Volt
Wilco
Death Cab for Cutie
The Jam
Hank Williams
Luna
Iron and Wine
Frou Frou
Depeche Mode
Bob Dylan
Low
Matt Pond PA
Radiohead
Not much better than HFS I see.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?˘:
KCRW.com
Always the leader. It's encouraging to see others follow. They are the reason for Indie 103 in LA, not KROQ.
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Originally posted by pollard:
my friend in Minneapolis told me this station just started there
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/thecurrent/ (http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/thecurrent/)
last 6 hours of what they have played (http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/thecurrent/playlist.php)
some fine music'n
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Originally posted by pollard:
last 6 hours of what they have played (http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/thecurrent/playlist.php)
some fine music'n
Curse you for getting me to tune in for Tegan & Sara. I can't stand those two.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Curse you for getting me to tune in for Tegan & Sara. I can't stand those two.
I dont think I have ever actually heard them, for some reason I cant get the stream to work for me from home
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Originally posted by pollard:
I dont think I have ever actually heard them, for some reason I cant get the stream to work for me from home
I had to use a preinstalled Winamp 5.1 (of all things) for the AACPlus because I don't have iTunes on my office machine and the WMA stream did not work on my WMP 9 in my office.
I'll test others when I get home.
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iTunes won't play the stream for me at home either, but Winamp does with no problem.
And WMA 10 plays the Win stream just fine.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
iTunes won't play the stream for me at home either, but Winamp does with no problem.
And WMA 10 plays the Win stream just fine.
ok, i will try it out, thanks
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Originally posted by pollard:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Curse you for getting me to tune in for Tegan & Sara. I can't stand those two.
I dont think I have ever actually heard them,...[/b]
Count your blessings!
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Originally posted by pollard:
Originally posted by vansmack:
Curse you for getting me to tune in for Tegan & Sara. I can't stand those two.
I dont think I have ever actually heard them,...[/b]
Count your blessings! [/b]
i definitely agree. i saw them on muchmusic once, eh?
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My lackey comes through for me. Thanks Pollard, this station seems right up my alley. And it's not blocked by my work censors, like KEXP is.
Originally posted by pollard:
Originally posted by pollard:
my friend in Minneapolis told me this station just started there
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/thecurrent/ (http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/thecurrent/)
last 6 hours of what they have played (http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/thecurrent/playlist.php)
some fine music'n [/b]
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Great just what we need, all those people who signed the petition thinking they had anything to do with HFS coming back on the air. :roll:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/tv/bal-to.whfs25jan25,1,7758779.story (http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/tv/bal-to.whfs25jan25,1,7758779.story)
Protests were heard, WHFS rocks online
It also can be heard on Live 105.7 FM
By Rob Hiaasen
Sun Staff
January 25, 2005
WHFS is back, in an alternative way.
The much-mourned and lowly rated rock station - which switched to Spanish pop only this month - has been revived and refitted for an online audience. On Friday, Infinity Broadcasting and America Online launched WHFS.com - a 24-hour, seven-day-a-week online radio station featuring new music, old music from WHFS, and performances from past HFStivals.
If listeners aren't interested in an audio stream of the former rock station, WHFS can also be heard weeknights and all day Saturdays and Sundays on Baltimore's Live 105.7, with host Tim Virgin, who had worked at the former station. The Baltimore FM radio talk station is also owned by Infinity, which brought back WHFS after listeners protested through online petitions and public rallies.
"We heard loud and clear how important WHFS and its programming are to the Washington, D.C./Baltimore community," Infinity spokesman David Goodman said in a released statement. "The legacy of WHFS as a pioneering music station will continue to live on for millions of listeners around the world."
There's also good news for festival fans. On "Live 105.7" yesterday, WHFS program director Lisa Worden announced there will be an HFStival probably in May. On Friday night, Dave Grohl - former Nirvana member and lead singer of The Foo Fighters - called in to congratulate the station and offered to play at any HFStival this year.
What a difference two weeks make in the radio business.
On Jan. 12, rock fans were stunned to turn on 99.1 FM and hear a Spanish-language station called El Zol. Salsa had replaced Slipknot. A revolt was born.
With no prior announcement, Infinity had dropped the "homegrown progressive" rock station that had introduced such bands as Good Charlotte and had produced the popular music festivals.
New York-based Infinity noted poor ratings and a burgeoning Hispanic listening audience as reasons for the format change. In the fall quarter, WHFS attracted an average of 1.3 percent of listeners - or 20th place among stations in the Washington metropolitan area. The station faired a bit better in the Baltimore metro area, with 2.5 percent of listeners or 13th place among stations, according to Arbitron figures released this month.
But diehard rock fans don't tend to flinch at low ratings; they tend to get angry, sign a WHFS online petition (more than 30,000 signatures) and stage rallies - such as the WHFS rally in Washington on Jan. 15, where listeners carried "Honk 4 HFS!" signs.
"We figure if we have enough of an outcry, we can cause some rumblings at Infinity," said Rusty Rowley, a protest organizer from Hyattsville. "At least we're being noticed," said the 26-year-old engineer.
He and other organizers had planned a Baltimore rally for next month - that is, until they heard WHFS on 105.7 FM over the weekend. Their online prayers had been answered. They can hear Korn, Slipknot and Crossfade again - just not on 99.1 FM. (The station El Zol expects to change its call letters to WZLL-FM.)
On WHFS.com yesterday, listeners could take heart in the Web site's message: "You demanded WHFS come back. And here it is. Rock on." As for Rowley and the legion of WHFS loyalists, "You asked if we thought we could make a difference," he said yesterday.
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The Foo Fighters at HFSestival, not a bad start.
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Rock Format Dies But HFStival Lives
New Venue Likely for Station's Concert
By Paul Farhi
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 26, 2005; Page C01
The radio format that made it famous is gone, but the show will go on. The annual rock bacchanalia known as the HFStival will be held this year, officials said, despite the uncertainty caused by this month's sudden move away from rock by its sponsoring radio station, WHFS-FM.
The multiact extravaganza has been a Washington springtime ritual for more than a decade. Last year's show, with 36 performers, attracted 60,000 fans to an all-day marathon at RFK Stadium.
But the festival's existence was placed in doubt by Infinity Broadcasting's decision to do away with WHFS's alternative-rock format in favor of Spanish-language pop music on Jan. 12. Before the format flip, WHFS gave the concert hours of publicity and played the music of many of the featured bands.
Infinity spokeswoman Karen Mateo said yesterday that plans for this year's concert remain sketchy, but the company was committed to another go-round. Although no date, bands or venue have been chosen yet, "for all intents and purposes, yes, we plan to continue," she said. "We're working on it."
The rock show is a big moneymaker for Infinity, in contrast to the financially struggling WHFS -- a situation that prompted one local radio executive to describe WHFS as "a concert with a radio station."
Even with Infinity's commitment, several problems stand in the way of mounting an outdoor concert on the same scale as recent HFStivals.
For one, RFK Stadium most likely won't be available for another show this spring, given that the facility will be the home of the new Washington Nationals baseball team. Seth Hurwitz, owner of Washington's 9:30 club and producer of last year's HFStival, said he was working with Infinity on selecting a site but that it was "way too premature" to discuss it. "We're looking at our options. The people want [the show], the bands want it, and so does the company," said Hurwitz, who also heads I.M.P. Inc., the company that will operate Merriweather Post Pavilion in Columbia this season.
Further, the loss of WHFS as a rock station complicates Infinity's promotion of the event. The company late last week began airing WHFS-style alternative rock -- some of it hosted by former WHFS DJs -- on weekday nights starting at 7 and round the clock on weekends on Live 105.7, a station Infinity owns in Baltimore. In addition, Infinity and America Online have launched WHFS.com, a streaming-audio version of the defunct radio format.
But neither of these moves provides the same degree of promotional muscle in the Washington area that WHFS, based in Lanham, once provided. The signal of Live 105.7 can't be heard clearly in Washington or its immediate suburbs. And streaming-audio stations rarely capture more than a fraction of a broadcast station's local audience because they can't be heard in cars.
Mateo, the Infinity spokesman, said the majority of HFStival fans come from the Baltimore area. But as an alternative, she said the company is considering using one of its Washington area stations, WJFK-FM, to promote the concert.
It was unlikely, she said, that the new WHFS, nicknamed "El Zol" and soon to change its call letters to WZLL-FM, would be a very effective promoter of the show.
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I was out-of-town when the "switch" happened. So when I finally got back into my car last night and tuned to preset #2, I just started cracking up laughing. I knew the change happened but it still surprised me when I finally heard it. I kind of like the new format!
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
Great just what we need, all those people who signed the petition thinking they had anything to do with HFS coming back on the air.
The true test will be 2006 after the intial shock and people stop paying attention. Again.
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Originally posted by helicon1:
I just started cracking up laughing. I knew the change happened but it still surprised me when I finally heard it. I kind of like the new format!
It is pretty funny. I'm thinking I'll listen to the new 99.1 now. A personal act to express the frustration from the HFS lost and what the station became. Not that it will cause any ripple, my one person stand.
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Now, I'm really pissed off!!! :mad:
Of all the complete and utter crap that is broadcasted over terrestrial radio, they had to go and remove the one and only show that I had any real care about and listened to on a regular basis. Now I have to go all the way to Charlotte, NC's WBT to listen to Coast To Coast fade in and out of the night sky.
It took them long enough to finally broadcast the show in the Baltimore market and then they did no real promotion for it. Over 500 affiliates and we still can't get a good pick-up of the show around here.
Why couldn't they replace one of the many Country, Hip Hop/R&B, ultra-shit Billboard Pop, Low-Carb "Lite", or extreme Right Wing talk shows that we have way too much of around this damned two bit town?
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Originally posted by El Tee:
It is pretty funny. I'm thinking I'll listen to the new 99.1 now. A personal act to express the frustration from the HFS lost and what the station became. Not that it will cause any ripple, my one person stand.
nope, it won't. have fun!!
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Looking for some assistance on the subject of Spanish music.
What are the leading Spanish music blogs and sites and publications? I'm researching this subject and am using the Google, but I know there's at least one fan of Spanish music here and I'm wondering what are some of the outlets that cover the music. Little help?
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Looking for some assistance on the subject of Spanish music.
What are the leading Spanish music blogs and sites and publications? I'm researching this subject and am using the Google, but I know there's at least one fan of Spanish music here and I'm wondering what are some of the outlets that cover the music. Little help?
I think you meant to post in the "hutch" thread.
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I couldn't remember which boarder it was that was a big fan. Thanks for the reminder, I will cross-post.
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Not on the Spanish music topic (which I know very little about....but like what I hear)
I have often said....DC seriously has the worst radio stations
I heard Gtown at one time had a decent radio station
rumor had it they got caught smoking the stuff that prop 71 was all about and it got shut down (like 25 years ago)
but seriously, why is there no good college radio in this whole area
I kinda thought the 930 club was going to try and do something, but was it only for people who live in 5 blocks of the place?
Terrestrial radio is going the way of the dodo, but it has always frustrated me that I can't get into my car and EVER find something interesting to listen to
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What's a "radio"?
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Not on the Spanish music topic (which I know very little about....but like what I hear)
I have often said....DC seriously has the worst radio stations
I heard Gtown at one time had a decent radio station
rumor had it they got caught smoking the stuff that prop 71 was all about and it got shut down (like 25 years ago)
but seriously, why is there no good college radio in this whole area
I kinda thought the 930 club was going to try and do something, but was it only for people who live in 5 blocks of the place?
Terrestrial radio is going the way of the dodo, but it has always frustrated me that I can't get into my car and EVER find something interesting to listen to
I don't think my radio dial has left 88.5 in 13 years.
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I don't think my radio dial has left 88.5 in 13 years.
same...occasionally I'll go up to 89.3 when the old timey radio show is on
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I prefer 89.3 over 88.5
That said, you can just easily stream any station anywhere with a smartphone and a car adapter now.
The WFMU phone app has quite a few cool features.
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We got a great station down here in NC...WKNC. It's the NC State station. Not that it does you people any good.
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actually, I take it back... 89.7 up by Towson/Bawlmore plays some decent tunes at times.
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actually, I take it back... 89.7 up by Towson/Bawlmore plays some decent tunes at times.
that's true...but can't get that in most of DC/NOVA