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sonickteam2

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2007, 09:15:00 pm »
i am getting one for my lady. buying it for her birthday, she really really wants one and theres no stopping her.  
 
 i'll have on in 3 weeks i assume...

Darth Ed

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2007, 11:52:00 pm »
I definitely want one, but I've got another year on my cell phone contract. I'm going to hold off for the 2nd generation iPhone. I'm hoping it'll have GPS and 3G by then.
 
 Vansmack: I believe you can use http://docs.google.com/ to view most popular document formats on an iPhone.

anarchist

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2007, 12:59:00 am »
how come it takes my pc 5 minutes to boot up and the mac takes less than 1 minute?

anarchist

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2007, 12:59:00 am »
how come it takes my pc 5 minutes to boot up and the mac takes less than 1 minute?

vansmack

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2007, 05:13:00 am »
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
 Vansmack: I believe you can use  http://docs.google.com/  to view most popular document formats on an iPhone.
Opening a 500kb document on a 2.5G network using Google Docs will take you appoximately 1.5 to 2.5 minutes with an uninterrupted internet connection.  
 
 Harldy seems worth it to me when Smartphones and blackberry's can do it in under 20 seconds locally over 3 G networks.
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vansmack

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2007, 05:17:00 am »
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  how come it takes my pc 5 minutes to boot up and the mac takes less than 1 minute?
Because less than 30% of software made today can actually run on your Mac.  
 
 No PC I own takes 5 minutes to boot, but nonetheless, none boots as fast as a Mac.  However, no Mac I own can do everything my PC does.  They're getting closer though by finally adopting the Intel Chip.
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Darth Ed

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2007, 12:08:00 pm »
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Originally posted by vansmack:
 Because less than 30% of software made today can actually run on your Mac.
Not true. There are multiple products for the Mac that allow you to run Windows software on an Intel Mac. Google the following search terms for more information: Parallels, VMware, Crossover, and "Boot Camp".

godsshoeshine

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2007, 12:47:00 pm »
we have a pc and a mac at home. nothing ever comes up that i can do on one and not the other
 
 and my mac is around 6 years old
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sonickteam2

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2007, 09:28:00 am »
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Brian_Wallace

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2007, 10:16:00 am »
You're all sheep.  It's almost like you're from NYC in your hipster "I have to have it NOW" consumer fetishism.
 
 Maybe take all that time and effort and money you'd invest in an iphone and read a difficult book you've always wanted to...paint a picture...plant a tree...WRITE a difficult book...write a song...anything but drink Steve Jobs' Kool-Aid/flop sweat.
 
 Brian

ratioci nation

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2007, 10:18:00 am »
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  You're all sheep.  It's almost like you're from NYC in your hipster "I have to have it NOW" consumer fetishism.
 
 Maybe take all that time and effort and money you'd invest in an iphone and read a difficult book you've always wanted to...paint a picture...plant a tree...WRITE a difficult book...write a song...anything but drink Steve Jobs' Kool-Aid/flop sweat.
 
 Brian
you've changed my life

alex

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2007, 10:24:00 am »
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Originally posted by Brian_Walalce:
  You're all sheep.  It's almost like you're from NYC in your hipster "I have to have it NOW" consumer fetishism.
 
 Maybe take all that time and effort and money you'd invest in an iphone and read a difficult book you've always wanted to...paint a picture...plant a tree...WRITE a difficult book...write a song...anything but drink Steve Jobs' Kool-Aid/flop sweat.
 
 Brian
shut up hippie

sonickteam2

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2007, 10:31:00 am »
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Originally posted by Brian_Walalce:
  You're all sheep.  It's almost like you're from NYC in your hipster "I have to have it NOW" consumer fetishism.
 
 Maybe take all that time and effort and money you'd invest in an iphone and read a difficult book you've always wanted to...paint a picture...plant a tree...WRITE a difficult book...write a song...anything but drink Steve Jobs' Kool-Aid/flop sweat.
 
 Brian
look man, i am already tired enough working on 3 hours sleep, you dont have to make it worse by boring me to fucking tears with this lame shit.
 
  BOOOOORING.  
 
 (and FYI, "kool-aid" references are sooo 2005)

yinzer

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2007, 10:34:00 am »
it is going to cost one how much up front and per month?  huh?  
 
 http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/hughes/14081
 
 for a first generation POS.

vansmack

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Re: Lessons from Apple
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2007, 05:54:00 pm »
It basically makes the iPhone an expensive PDA, but if they can crack the phone part so that it works in Europe, I can see a huge black market developing....
 
 Hackers Close to Cracking iPhone
 July 16, 2007
 By  Lisa Vaas
 
 iPhone hackers are on the cusp of not only being able to write programs for the phone but also finding a way to cut the device's tether to Cingular's service plans.
 
 According to one of the group of hackers who are working collaboratively via wiki and #iphone IRC channel, one of the last major hurdles has been the lack of a high-quality ARM assembler tailored for the iPhone. That missing link as of the afternoon of July 16 had been developed to the pre-alpha stage. Developers are at the point where they now have a working GNU debugger.
 
 One of the first iPhone hacks came from Jon Lech Johansen, aka DVD Jon. A self-trained Norwegian software engineer, Johansen on July 3 announced on his blog that he had hacked a new, unactivated iPhone, managing to activate it without turning on AT&T Cingular phone service.
 
 But although Johansen managed to get the iPod and Wi-Fi capabilities of an iPhone turned on with his hack, he couldn't get the device to work as a phone. "Stay tuned!" for that, Johansen said at the time.
 
 It's now in fact impossible to buy an iPhone without a Cingular service plan attached to it, unless the buyer's credit is bad. In that case, Apple has prepaid service options.
 
 The world of iPhone watchers has been bubbling with other tips on how to get out of paying Cingular for iPhone phone service; in order to "wreck" one's credit, for example, one suggestion is to enter 999-99-9999 as a Social Security number.
 
 Other suggestions focus on getting out of Cingular's clutches without early termination fees. Wireless carriers impose early termination fees purportedly to recoup lost revenues from discounted or free phones they use to lure in new customers, but Apple has not discounted its pricey iPhone, which makes Cingular's $175 early termination fee particularly galling.
 
 Given the above, the urge to unlock the iPhone is understandable.
 
 It's also legal.
 
 That point was made clear when the Library of Congress clarified the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) in November 2006. Prior to this ruling, cell phone customers were often forced to either return or throw away old phones upon switching carriers because the DCMA was interpreted to mean that the old cell phone was actually the old carrier's property. The November 2006 ruling stipulated that the software that restricts consumers from accessing their phones' firmware wasn't based as much on copyright law as it was on the carriers' business models.
 
 The United States is behind the times when it comes to the prevalence of unlocked cell phones, but it's not an entirely unknown concept. CompUSA has been selling them for months.
 
 One of the major reasons to unlock the iPhone, as with any cell phone, is that when traveling outside the United States, consumers with unlocked phones can buy a pre-paid plan with a service provider in a given country and thus avoid a high-priced international service plan.
 
 There are reasons why unlocking an iPhone is a bad idea, however. First, users who unlock their iPhones will lose proprietary iPhone features such as Visual Voicemail. Second, there's the early termination fee of $175 paid to Cingular unless service is cancelled within 30 days of purchase.
 
 There are ways to get out of paying early termination fees, including selling the contract, enlisting in the military, moving out of coverage range or dying, each of which presents its own challenges, to say the least.
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