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ggw

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We Are Not Alone
« on: February 18, 2005, 05:56:00 pm »
Signs of current life on Mars, researchers claim
 Methane signatures seen hinting at possibilities underground
 
 WASHINGTON - A pair of NASA scientists told a group of space officials at a private meeting here that they have found strong evidence that life may exist today on Mars, hidden away in caves and sustained by pockets of water.
 
 The scientists, Carol Stoker and Larry Lemke of NASA??s Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley, told the group that they have submitted their findings to the journal Nature for publication in May, and their paper currently is being peer reviewed.
 
 What Stoker and Lemke have found, according to several attendees of the private meeting, which took place Sunday, is not direct proof of life on Mars, but methane signatures and other signs of possible biological activity remarkably similar to those recently discovered in caves here on Earth.
 
 Stoker and other researchers have long theorized that the Martian subsurface could harbor biological organisms that have developed unusual strategies for existing in extreme environments. That suspicion led Stoker and a team of U.S. and Spanish researchers in 2003 to southwestern Spain to search for subsurface life near the Rio Tinto river??so-called because of its reddish tint??the product of iron being dissolved in its highly acidic water.
 
 Stoker did not respond to messages left Tuesday on her voice mail at Ames.
 
 Stoker told SPACE.com in 2003, weeks before leading the expedition to southwestern Spain, that by studying the very acidic Rio Tinto, she and other scientists hoped to characterize the potential for a ??chemical bioreactor? in the subsurface ?? an underground microbial ecosystem of sorts that might well control the chemistry of the surface environment.
 
 Making such a discovery at Rio Tinto, Stoker said in 2003, would mean uncovering a new, previously uncharacterized metabolic strategy for living in the subsurface. ??For that reason, the search for life in the Rio Tinto is a good analog for searching for life on Mars,? she said.
 
 Stoker told her private audience Sunday evening that by comparing discoveries made at Rio Tinto with data collected by ground-based telescopes and orbiting spacecraft, including the European Space Agency??s Mars Express, she and Lemke have made a very a strong case that life exists below Mars?? surface.
 
 The two scientists, according to sources at the Sunday meeting, based their case in part on Mars?? fluctuating methane signatures that could be a sign of an active underground biosphere and nearby surface concentrations of the sulfate jarosite, a mineral salt found on Earth in hot springs and other acidic bodies of water like Rio Tinto that have been found to harbor life despite their inhospitable environments.
 
 One of NASA??s Mars Exploration Rovers, Opportunity, bolstered the case for water on Mars when it discovered jarosite and other mineral salts on a rocky outcropping in Merdiani Planum, the intrepid rover??s landing site chosen because scientists believe the area was once covered by salty sea.
 
 Stoker and Lemke??s research could lead the search for Martian biology underground, where standing water would help account the curious methane signatures the two have been analyzing.
 
 ??They are desperate to find out what could be producing the methane,? one attendee told Space News. ??Their answer is drill, drill, drill.?
 
 NASA has no firm plans for sending a drill-equipped lander to Mars, but the agency is planning to launch a powerful new rover in 2009 that could help shed additional light on Stoker and Lemke??s intriguing findings. Dubbed the Mars Science Laboratory, the nuclear-powered rover will range farther than any of its predecessors and will be carrying an advanced mass spectrometer to sniff out methane with greater sensitivity than any instrument flown to date.
 
 In 1996 a team of NASA and Stanford University researchers created a stir when they published findings that meteorites recovered from the Allen Hills region of Antarctica contained evidence of possible past life on Mars. Those findings remain controversial, with many researchers unconvinced that those meteorites held even possible evidence that very primitive microbial life had once existed on Mars.
 
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2005, 06:02:00 pm »
Again, I say...don't you people watch the Today Show?
 
 This dude was on telling all about it!
 
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2005, 06:08:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Celeste:
  Again, I say...don't you people watch the Today Show?
 
You've really gone all-out in your transformation to suburban housewife, haven't you?

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2005, 07:54:00 pm »
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Originally posted by ggw?:
  ??They are desperate to find out what could be producing the methane,? one attendee told Space News.
Martian cattle!     :D    
 
 On a serious note, I've been reading and listening to interviews about this for the past couple of days and it sounds like someone is trying to cover their ass about speaking unofficially and too soon. It's getting kind of interesting just on a personal level besides the finding itself.
 
 Maybe it's from all those cows they've been abducting?     :D  
 
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2005, 08:10:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
   
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Originally posted by ggw?:
  ??They are desperate to find out what could be producing the methane,? one attendee told Space News.
Martian cattle!     :D    
 
 On a serious note, I've been reading and listening to interviews about this for the past couple of days and it sounds like someone is trying to cover their ass about speaking unofficially and too soon. It's getting kind of interesting just on a person level besides the finding itself.
 
 Maybe it's from all those cows they've been abducting?     :D  
 
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or maybe its the contrails!
 
 never believe what they tell you, jaguar
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Jaguär

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2005, 08:42:00 pm »
Whole different subject, Hoya.
 And I'm not the one sustaining on a diet of sheeple shit.
 
 But I guess you wouldn't understand.
 
 Bet you weren't even able to distinquish which
 parts of my post were jokes and which weren't.   :roll:

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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2005, 11:27:00 am »
At least Bowie can rest now!  :D

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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2005, 11:35:00 am »
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Originally posted by O'Mankie:
  At least Bowie can rest now!   :D  
Why can Bowie, Maryland rest because of this news?

HoyaSaxa03

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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2005, 08:01:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
  Whole different subject, Hoya.
 And I'm not the one sustaining on a diet of sheeple shit.
 
 But I guess you wouldn't understand.
 
 Bet you weren't even able to distinquish which
 parts of my post were jokes and which weren't.    :roll:  
sorry jag, you're right, my sarcasm-radar is just shot to shit right now ... i really just take everything i read at face value, a regular ole amelia bedelia, if you will.
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2005, 11:20:00 am »
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Originally posted by O'Mankie:
  At least Bowie can rest now!    :D  
Why can Bowie, Maryland rest because of this news? [/b]
Because it's not the only place in the universe inhabited by primitive organisms that do nothing other than omit methane.