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xcanuck

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They're baaaaaack!
« on: February 19, 2005, 04:11:00 pm »
Like a zombie, the NHL seems ready to come back to life. After cancelling the season, it appears the league is hours away from announcing a deal. CBC is reporting several stories that seem to indicate this. CBC has been asked to bring a satellite truck to NYC for a news conference. They're also saying that European players are packing up and trying to schedule flights.
 
 Closer to home, I spoke to a woman today who's son plays at Piney Orchard using time that the Caps donated due to the lockout. Her son's team was told that the Caps would be starting practice on Monday so they couldn't have the ice anymore.
 
 The zombie metaphor, I think, is very apt. The league may come back from the dead, but what kind of shape is it going to be in? How many Europeans (some of who have signed full year contracts, others like Forsberg are injured) are going to come back? Is a 28 game season anything close to a real season? What kind of condition are the players going to be in?
 
 I'm of mixed emotion. Part of me is very excited to see the game I love passionately coming back. But I'm going to VERY disappointd if substantial change doesn't come out of this. I'd hate to think that we lost a year of hockey but not get any real changes. And the main change I want to see are Bettman and Goodenow's heads on a platter.
 
 Personally, I'm going to boycott the games and merchandise for at least the remainder of this season. I've already cancelled my Caps season tickets (not like I'm worried about getting them back!). But I guess I'll be renewing my NHL Centre Ice subscription  :)
 
 Game on....I hope!

HoyaSaxa03

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Re: They're baaaaaack!
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2005, 05:57:00 pm »
Updated: Feb. 19, 2005, 4:50 PM ET
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 NEW YORK -- The NHL and the players' association still weren't able to come to an agreement Saturday that would un-cancel the hockey season, and NHL chief legal officer Bill Daly said it's too late to play games this season,
 
 Daly told The Associated Press that there was no progress made in the 6½-hour meeting, and later told Canada's Sportsnet that the sides' focus will shift to getting a deal done and playing the 2005-06 season.
 
 No further meetings are scheduled and the league will not comment on Saturday's talks. Representatives from the players' association were expected to meet with reporters later in the day.
 
 Just three days after the season was called off because of the protracted lockout, the NHL and the players' association restarted talks at 9 a.m. Saturday at an undisclosed location in New York.
 
 NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and players' association executive director Bob Goodenow were not at the meeting, two sources told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.
 
 However, Wayne Gretzky, the managing partner of the Phoenix Coyotes, and Mario Lemieux, the player-owner of the Pittsburgh Penguins, joined the talks aimed at getting a deal done that could save the season, the sources said.
 
 Gretzky and Lemieux were joined on the owners' side by Daly and outside counsel Bob Batterman, while the union was represented by NHLPA senior director Ted Saskin, director of business relations Mike Gartner, players' association president Trevor Linden, vice president Vincent Damphousse, and outside counsel John McCambridge.
 
 The union denied online reports Friday night that an agreement had been reached on a $45 million salary cap.
 
 On Wednesday, Bettman canceled the season, saying it was too late to play any semblance of a schedule. That made the NHL the first major North American sports league to lose a full season to a labor dispute.
 
 In a statement released Friday night, the players' association said the NHL made the offer late Thursday night to get together. There hadn't been any official contact between the NHL and the players' association since Tuesday night -- when the sides traded what they said were final offers.
 
 All proposals were rejected, and Bettman canceled the season at a news conference that was scheduled Monday.
 
 "I don't think anything was premature. It was a necessity," New Jersey Devils president Lou Lamoriello said.
 
 Bettman said in a letter to Goodenow on Tuesday that the league's salary-cap proposal of $42.5 million was as far as he could go and that there was no time or flexibility for negotiation.
 
 Goodenow sent a letter back, proposing a soft cap at $49 million that could be exceeded by as much as 10 percent by teams twice during the course of the six-year deal.
 
 It appeared there was momentum toward reaching a deal and the season had a chance to be saved, because the sides were only $6.5 million apart on their cap numbers. But talking ceased after each side sent two letters to the other on Tuesday night.
 
 Bettman said the NHL couldn't afford the union's final proposal and said if all 30 teams spent $49 million on player costs, then more money would be paid out to players than last season.
 
 The commissioner said that teams lost more than $1.8 billion over 10 years, the last time a collective bargaining agreement was reached. The previous lockout cut the 1994-95 season down to 48 games per team.
 
 NHL clubs claim to have lost $273 million in 2002-03 and $224 million last season.
 
 Bettman said a deal would have to be in the drafting stages by the end of last weekend if there was going to be time to play a 28-game season and a standard 16-team postseason.
 
 Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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Sir HC

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Re: They're baaaaaack!
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2005, 07:34:00 pm »
How many times are they going to get your hopes up and break them.  Are they trying to turn fans away?

xcanuck

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Re: They're baaaaaack!
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2005, 11:33:00 am »
Incredible. Part of me was hoping that we'd have hockey back. What a tease...I bought all the stories, rumours, and conjecturing. Doh!
 
 That's OK - last night we watched the Leafs/Red Wings Oldtimers game, followed by the Notre Dame/UofM game. I'm happy with that. Really. If I keep telling that to myself, maybe I'll believe it. Eventually.

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Re: They're baaaaaack!
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2005, 12:18:00 pm »
My prediction was always that this season would be missed and maybe next.  There is way too much wrong with hockey off the ice to expect a weekend fix with mario and wayne.  The better entertainment here is the plethora of media outlets trying to convince me how lowly the NHL is or how this is just another black mark, etc. etc.  Cut it out!  I'm a hockey fan... don't belittle me.  I don't care about the "not so world" series, the unsuper bowl, or the hood ball NBA.... So when a resolution comes, I'll be back, but I've been bracing for this for some time.