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Mongo

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How is bail set?
« on: November 21, 2003, 02:08:00 pm »
Legal question here.  Is bail simply set at the judges discretion?  Why on earth would Phil Spector be released on $1 million bail for capital murder and Michael Jackson pay 3 times that for a lesser crime?

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Re: How is bail set?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2003, 02:19:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Mongo:
  Legal question here.  Is bail simply set at the judges discretion?  Why on earth would Phil Spector be released on $1 million bail for capital murder and Michael Jackson pay 3 times that for a lesser crime?
I think often the case is based on the seriousness of the suspect leaving town. In Michael's case, he has his own private plane and could be in Mexico in an hour. Of course the difference between 1 and 3 million to the likes of michael and phil is pretty null, which makes it kinda stupid.

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Re: How is bail set?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2003, 02:21:00 pm »
That sounds like an ask jeeves thing...I have no idea. Crime/wealth of accused/judge discretion perhaps???
 
 I don't get why they only pay 10% of the bail to get out...what's the point of that?

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Re: How is bail set?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2003, 02:23:00 pm »
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Originally posted by redsock:
  Of course the difference between 1 and 3 million to the likes of michael and phil is pretty null, which makes it kinda stupid.
MJ's not as wealthy as believed:
 
 http://money.cnn.com/2003/11/20/news/companies/michael_jackson/index.htm

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Re: How is bail set?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2003, 02:25:00 pm »
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Originally posted by mankie:
  That sounds like an ask jeeves thing...I have no idea. Crime/wealth of accused/judge discretion perhaps???
 
 I don't get why they only pay 10% of the bail to get out...what's the point of that?
When my brother got arrested, he had to pay the whole $10,000. You get it back, assuming you go to the trial, but a percentage, 15% or so in TX, goes to the bail bondsman.

Re: How is bail set?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2003, 02:37:00 pm »
What did your brother do, assault on Grady Little?
 
 
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Originally posted by mankie:
  That sounds like an ask jeeves thing...I have no idea. Crime/wealth of accused/judge discretion perhaps???
 
 I don't get why they only pay 10% of the bail to get out...what's the point of that?
When my brother got arrested, he had to pay the whole $10,000. You get it back, assuming you go to the trial, but a percentage, 15% or so in TX, goes to the bail bondsman. [/b]

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Re: How is bail set?
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2003, 02:45:00 pm »
It has to do mostly with severity of crime and how mouch dough you got.  A $10,000 bond is gonna keep some poor drug offender in town usually.  But to someone like MJ or PS, $10K ain't diddly.  The bail is higher.
 
 And oh yeah, the judges discretion, too.
 
 The bail bondsman get's a cut cuz say your bail is a grand, you give him $100 (plus his 15% or whatever fee)and he covers the rest.  Then if you don't show, you owe the rest to him.  You gotta have some collateral though in case you bolt, like your house, the kid's college $$)  But if you do show up, he gets his 1k back plus your fee.  Kind of like legal loansharking if you ask me.
 
 Of course, you could just cover bail yourself and pay the whole thing and cut the bondsman out, but if it was that easy to pay, well then that really defeats the purpose of bail....at least in theory I suppose.

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Re: How is bail set?
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2003, 02:59:00 pm »
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  It has to do mostly with severity of crime and how mouch dough you got.  A $10,000 bond is gonna keep some poor drug offender in town usually.  But to someone like MJ or PS, $10K ain't diddly.  The bail is higher.
 
 And oh yeah, the judges discretion, too.
 
 The bail bondsman get's a cut cuz say your bail is a grand, you give him $100 (plus his 15% or whatever fee)and he covers the rest.  Then if you don't show, you owe the rest to him.  You gotta have some collateral though in case you bolt, like your house, the kid's college $$)  But if you do show up, he gets his 1k back plus your fee.  Kind of like legal loansharking if you ask me.
 
 Of course, you could just cover bail yourself and pay the whole thing and cut the bondsman out, but if it was that easy to pay, well then that really defeats the purpose of bail....at least in theory I suppose.
Well, in TX you have to use a bondsman apparently...

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Re: How is bail set?
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2003, 04:13:00 pm »
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Well, in TX you have to use a bondsman apparently... [/b]
Really?  Well that could be the case everywhere.  What the fuck do I know, anyway?

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Re: How is bail set?
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2003, 04:25:00 pm »
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Well, in TX you have to use a bondsman apparently... [/b]
Really?  Well that could be the case everywhere.  What the fuck do I know, anyway? [/b]
in va if you don't have all the money you can go through a bail bondsman, or at least that is how it was explained to me
 
 like if bail is $2000, you give 10% to a bail bondsman and that'll get you out of jail

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Re: How is bail set?
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2003, 04:32:00 pm »
he needs to start touring again. timberlake played here, why not get MJ to play 930?

Mongo

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Re: How is bail set?
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2003, 06:47:00 pm »
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  he needs to start touring again. timberlake played here, why not get MJ to play 930?
That's right, don't musicians make more money off of touring than record sales anyway?  JT was 21 and over.  Do you think MJ would be 14 and under???

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Re: How is bail set?
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2003, 08:33:00 pm »
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Originally posted by jakez468:
  he needs to start touring again. timberlake played here, why not get MJ to play 930?
That's right, don't musicians make more money off of touring than record sales anyway?  JT was 21 and over.  Do you think MJ would be 14 and under??? [/b]
Damnit!!!!!!!!!! You took my joke   :mad:

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Re: How is bail set?
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2003, 08:43:00 am »
Ask Glen
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